FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Long420;2881540]Yes I agree, I have been visiting Fkks every year, two three times each quarter. At sharks the line up is same from last few years and 50% girls are same even before corona times whereas OASE have completely new line up. OASE is definitely better value for quality and new girls.[/QUOTE]I do agree with favoring Oase at the moment over Sharks but am fairly certain that Sharks turnover is much greater than 50%. Probably closer to 80% compared to pre-Rona.

Oase is proportionately nearly as good in optics with half the line up size but less overpriced and better average service.

I've always hoped for the day where haggling situation at Oase was better than Sharks. Did not expect it to come in the form of deterioration of Sharks from a pandemic pricing aftermath.

[QUOTE=Long420;2881540]Yes I agree, I have been visiting Fkks every year, two three times each quarter. At sharks the line up is same from last few years and 50% girls are same even before corona times whereas OASE have completely new line up. OASE is definitely better value for quality and new girls.[/QUOTE]Crina, Melissa, work at Oase since before 2014 . Marina since before 2016 . Sharks is now what was Oase in 2016 , upselling land, when Oase improved since 2019 .

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881473]Been a member there since the site opened. It's basically a Sharks thread much like this site as other clubs also get vastly ignored. Even there, most posters are not locals. German yes, but most are not local.

As for Germans paying tourist rates, they are mostly only guilty of paying 100 per 30 minutes. Rarely do the Germans contribute to the 200/ hour price gouge much less the 250/ HR or 150/30 rate. I assume that they know that for 200/ HR, they can make an appointment with their escort of choice without having to wait or pay an entrance fee.

I'll reiterate, paying 200/ HR at an FKK is dumb mongering, no matter how much someone justifies a girl is worth. It's still an FKK where prices are supposed to allow for quantity of rooms, not one great room. Quality is important but for an FKK sauna club, quantity is supposed to be prioritized. If quality is the priority, the monger should not be in an FKK destroying the concept with their out-of-place justification of ridiculous pricing.

People can talk about tourists but anyone paying 200 for an hour without extras is guilty of contributing to this bad situation themselves.[/QUOTE]Germans are not drivers like me all over Germany. They and locals made increasing rates under lockdown when were no tourists and amazing to read on lustscout how they easily pay 4 CE for little girls I would not give 50 . I can understand a Chinese feeling wow and losing control, when just falling from Beijing, but I can t understand so many Germans overpaying for schoolgirls, or they may really have to cure big frustration from not being able to have girlfriends at school. Of course, girls know they can fuck Asians or some other tourists, but this don t make girls monthly income, when what accept to pay Germans and locals make the new rates norm which increased under lockdown and again on 2022 and 2023 , when as a foreigner visiting all over FKK land and escorts, I don t see any girl who is pretty and true fresh GFE enough to pay 200/60 for at Sharks, when some Germans pay 250/60 for Elektra or even more for Simona, for few baby kiss. For me, Germans and locals are more guilty than tourists for inflation from 50 to 150/30 to get few baby kiss and from 100 to 250 or even more for 1 hour with only low GFE. I like Sharks and I find staff improved, but girls are not good value for me in FKK land, as a foreigner who don t like to play tourist, in brothels.

Unfortunately when I log onto this site especially recently many (for me) irrelevant conversations and backstabbing be it friendly or otherwise seem to dominate the site.

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881563]I second this. Even at the new rates, top girls are not making 2000-3000 per day. Yes they may make 2000 to 3000 on a great day but the reality is that they are taking more 30 minute rooms at the 100 e rate and less one hour rooms altogether. Who knows what the actual average daily take-home is for the girls these days but it's not enough to cause a flood of fresh girls, nor a massive exodus beyond the initial post-lockdown exodus. That probably means that incomes are likely much the same as before.

Not a single girl at Sharks is continuously booked. The market is just not supporting that. I saw a rare room wait at Sharks a couple of weeks ago. Four couples were ahead of me but the wait was only about 10 minutes. This means everyone is taking "30 minute" rooms rather than long rooms. And by "30 minutes," I mean quick fuck 20 minute minute rooms.

In the end, what happens is that the top girls win. All girls make less rooms but the top girls end up making the same money for less rooms and time in rooms. I don't even see the top girls disappearing for hours so it seems that they are just taking in 100 e at a time, maybe 150 e with an extra. And even the busiest girls are not doing 15-20 rooms per day.

One of my regulars who is rarely talked about on this board but is popular on the German boards openly stated to me that 500 e on a slow day is okay, 1000 e is usually the goal, and 2000 e is a great day.[/QUOTE]Staff told girls they were making falling business, when asking too expensive, but they don t care. I think new generation is so frustrated to do this bad job, so they don t want to only be fucked but want to also fuck clients, like Lora. FR tried on her birthday with her regulars, reason why I find higher quality for less expensive with more woman types who ask me when I will return, my big tip being to drive so much to return. Funny is most expensive in FKK land is not for best quality, when I only pay for quality making me dream, when I don t need to pay just to feel lighter. I m happy because I still find high level for 150/60 for real GFE and also for behavior and reactions, asking if I go with others, always funny. Germany is still best value for me in FKK land, but not Sharks casting, but many other clubs.

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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881624]Like I said to other poster. Don't worry about Asian racism in FKKs. Clearly you will see more of it from angry dorks on forums.

Weather in Germany was terrible in December. Rained quite a lot, basically everyday for 2 weeks. Noticed zero masks at grocery stores, restaurants, banks, Christmas markets, FKKs. People preoccupied with the subject who predicted FKK closures through 2021 seem to take more notice.

In the end, it's just more egos in FKK land. Why these people have so much anger when they should be relaxed from regularly blowing their wad on a hooker is beyond me, suspect some idiopathic etiology of disease.[/QUOTE]I think Asian types and other tourists are welcome at Sharks, when girls make losing business to the club. Many girls who have no business with regulars who know about them, like Asians and tourists.

[QUOTE=Canary;2881679]Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

[B]I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks[/B] and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.[/QUOTE]Orthodox New Year is Sunday 14th January 2024. Many girls take a week off during that time or early January. But some choose to take time off this week. I highly doubt anyone is able to predict exactly who is around in two weeks (unless they are a Sharks insider).

First half of January is traditionally a weak period for the FKK clubs: Girls on holiday, and gents hurting because of spending too much money on other stuff during the holidays. I would expect few girls, but also few gents. Please report back after your visit if this made sense.

No recent experience myself, so the following is secondhand info:

Sharks right now is dead prior to 3 pm (10+ girls?), but picks up later with around 80% of normal capacity (reports say 60- 80 girls prior to holiday season, so maybe 50- 70 right now?). Last year 50 girls were confirmed in attendance in early January (just to give you an idea).

Palace has been stable with around 30- 40 girls in attendance prior to holiday season. I assume somewhat weaker in early January (dead in daytime and 20+ in the evenings?), but picks up to 40- 50 for the exhibitions in late January? That's just me trying to give a qualified guess.

[QUOTE=Canary;2881679]Unfortunately when I log onto this site especially recently many (for me) irrelevant conversations and backstabbing be it friendly or otherwise seem to dominate the site.

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.[/QUOTE]Nothing to report that would be helpful in 2 weeks. It's Christmas so any report of line ups today will have little resemblance to mid January line ups. Most girls who work everyday per their Christmas contract will take off after new year and be gone for much of January as they do every year.

No one will be able to tell you what it will look like in 2 weeks as girls trickle back in at their unpredictable pace as they do every year.

Girls who left in early December like Brenda or Cataleya plan to be back but on what exact date, no one knows except perhaps some super regulars as girls usually only buy 1 way tickets so they themselves don't even know when they come back.

As for attendance, same as every Christmas. Sausage fest now that will improve in January. Weekday line ups are not good right now. Club gets packed.

On weekend nights. The vibe and attendance is especially desolate during the weekdays. These are things you probably already know.

Current line up is especially heavy in nondescript silicon breasted providers who just look like they would give terrible window girl style service. Expect 200/ HR quote but don't expect that to guarantee good service. Expect 100/30 to be mediocre quickie service.

It's Sharks around the holidays. If you are an experienced monger with high expectations, it will be mediocre to terrible unless you have your regulars.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2881685]Staff told girls they were making falling business, when asking too expensive, but they don t care. I think new generation is so frustrated to do this bad job, so they don t want to only be fucked but want to also fuck clients, like Lora. FR tried on her birthday with her regulars, reason why I find higher quality for less expensive with more woman types who ask me when I will return, my big tip being to drive so much to return. Funny is most expensive in FKK land is not for best quality, when I only pay for quality making me dream, when I don t need to pay just to feel lighter. I m happy because I still find high level for 150/60 for real GFE and also for behavior and reactions, asking if I go with others, always funny. Germany is still best value for me in FKK land, but not Sharks casting, but many other clubs.[/QUOTE]So this is what you call „real woman GFE" ? When they ask you „when you will come back?" or telling other sweet words?

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2881836]So this is what you call real woman GFE" ? When they ask you when you will come back?" or telling other sweet words?[/QUOTE]For sure, for me, GFE is not only few Romanian baby kiss for extra 50, but much more matter of behavior from the girl for You and no money talk which kill GFE. From my behavior, most girls ask if I go with other girls, who, if I do same with others? When I answer: but You go with other guys, they answer: my job, when You can choose. Meaning: choose only me. Even quality become quite rare in FKK land, but I don t worry much because I can go weekly for months with only one. At GG, my best 2023 club, everybody and staff know I only go with 2, elegant real GFE woman images for 150/60.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2882006]For sure, for me, GFE is not only few Romanian baby kiss for extra 50, but much more matter of behavior from the girl for You and no money talk which kill GFE. From my behavior, most girls ask if I go with other girls, who, if I do same with others? When I answer: but You go with other guys, they answer: my job, when You can choose. Meaning: choose only me. Even quality become quite rare in FKK land, but I don t worry much because I can go weekly for months with only one. At GG, my best 2023 club, everybody and staff know I only go with 2, elegant real GFE woman images for 150/60.[/QUOTE]Yeah behavior is very important.

I have got a lot compliment / sweet words from the girls, like:

-„it was so special with you, its like with a boyfriend".

- „there are only shit outside, except you „).

- its already 1 h? It felt like 15 min.

- or ask me for my phone no.

- or saying, they only do this xxx with me and noone else here.

And so on.

But I think, this is their job.

40% of their job is sexual things in the room.

20% is their words.

An other 40% is the time in the lobby, when they hunt you, stalk you, observing you.

They know what time their regular come into the club and with which girl the guy talked to and even when / what they eat.

Also thex trade infomation between the groups, anything about their regular, what they like in room, what budget they have and if upselling is possible.

I called Sharks and asked if a particular girl is working on that day. They told me "we do not answer any information regarding girl". I don't know why they do this. I would go there more often if I can confirm "Maria" is working on that day. OASE staff answers if a particular girl is working or on holiday, which is so helpful (especially January, December). If more people complain about this, they may change policy.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2882103]Yeah behavior is very important.

I have got a lot compliment / sweet words from the girls, like:

-it was so special with you, its like with a boyfriend".

- there are only shit outside, except you ).

- its already 1 h? It felt like 15 min.

- or ask me for my phone no.

- or saying, they only do this xxx with me and noone else here.

And so on.

But I think, this is their job.

40% of their job is sexual things in the room.

20% is their words.

An other 40% is the time in the lobby, when they hunt you, stalk you, observing you.

They know what time their regular come into the club and with which girl the guy talked to and even when / what they eat.

Also thex trade infomation between the groups, anything about their regular, what they like in room, what budget they have and if upselling is possible.[/QUOTE]Yes for looking all what You do, even when they are busy, then I wonder if they ask other girls? How they can know when they are in room? But they don t tell about You, because they want to keep You only for them, they only tell kind of: he is crazy, but no details and friends of this girl won t hunt You, when they were told: private. At Sharks, even I had a really good room with Sena on end of 2021 , but we both know there is a girl between us. This is my experience from what I give to girls, when no other tip than driving more than 1000 kms to return. If a girl propose You 3 some or tell You about another good girl, her friend, then You are only money for her. None of my regulars never proposed me 3 some and at Globe, they didn t want public sex with me, but telling: I prefer more intimate, when they do with other guys, but on Tuesday, after my Christmas big crash over rocks, but I was happy for my 2 days free riding some good spots in Tignes and Val Thorens, I could see how girls fake on public sex, just playing porn show, not in my way for sex, when I enjoy so much to see body reactions on skin, nipples, fluids. Can t lie for this.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2882103]Yeah behavior is very important.

I have got a lot compliment / sweet words from the girls, like:

-it was so special with you, its like with a boyfriend".

- there are only shit outside, except you ).

- its already 1 h? It felt like 15 min.

- or ask me for my phone no.

- or saying, they only do this xxx with me and noone else here.

And so on.

.[/QUOTE]I had a good laugh.

They call me God, refuse my money and insist to pay me after the session.