Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1641845]Wolvenvacht, you are too good for this world to answer all these questions in someone's first post.

TwoTimeTed, please RTFF. What that means? Look in the Abbreviations list.

It takes a lot of time and effort to figure out how the P4 P scene works but that's exactly what this forum is for, so I repeat: RTFF. And yes, that means reading reading reading page after page after page and using Google and Google Maps quite a lot to look things up. So lock yourself up for a couple of days; believe me it will be worth the effort. Come to Thailand prepared otherwise it will be a big disappointment.[/QUOTE]Mogwai,

I may be green on this forum but I have experience on the USA board. I have RTFF and getting prepared is exactly what I'm doing. I just did not get some of the lingo and had to make a post on it, so I did. The abbreviations will drown a newbie on this board but I understand its a work in progress, I get it.

I just needed a couple of shortcuts on a couple of items and thank the guy that responded, if you want to make life hard on others I guess you can do that, but you can't save all the women for yourself, I'm a coming soon!

[QUOTE=Romeo2882;1641639]Hello brother mongers,

I will be in thailand for a few days on a golfing holiday. I need information on some top class escort agencies (CIS, Central Asian, south east Asian). Can any of the seniors PM me the details. I will be reaching Bangkok on Saturday morning.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Have you even bothered to look at the forum devoted to exactly the question you just asked? Just askin'.

SW4.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1641459]Last night I approached this delicious looking young girl who was standing near the entrance to Thermae. She was quite young (very early 20's I think), had minimal English and acted a little bit shy but nevertheless I could tell she already had some experience with farang / customers. Her name was Em (or Am or M like in the Bond movies, whatever).

An older SW who was standing next to her acted as translator but later on acted more like a mamasan or even pimpette. She told me it was the girl's first day (yeah right, I saw her yesterday already) and she would like to receive 2000 TB for a ST. Now this girl was a solid 8, at the least, but that is of course a ridiculous price for a SW. After some negotiation I got her down to 1500 TB but when I was about to leave with the girl the 'pimpette' suddenly said she wanted to be paid in advance. I wasn't already too thrilled about this 'pimpette' and this was the final alarm bell. So I called it off and walked away.

Does anyone else have experience with this girl? She's really hot, some guys will even call her gorgeous I think but for me she's somewhere between hot and gorgeous.[/QUOTE]I have no way of knowing if this is the same girl but I barfined a girl that looks just like this one (same description, cutie, same name, ect.) at the beginning of the week from Spankys.

She's cute and nice body but she's way too professional (lying on the price of the short time rooms) and I totally regretted not choosing another one.

Of course it sounds strange you met her on the street when I found her in Spankys but the description seems to match.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1641574]Pipe; I think he's referring to Patong which is an entertainment area on the island of Phuket in southern Thailand, and you're thinking about Patpong which is an entertainment venue in BKK; 2 different places entirely.[/QUOTE]Yeah you're right. I must have been half asleep when I read his post. LOL.

[QUOTE=Socker;1641801]I stayed at the Horizon Beach Resort in Patong, Phuket. The island is nice w / some spectacular sightseeing. Patong is full of tourist families (wall to wall people) and p4p is a small part of the scene.
If you like cbjs and no GFE w / high prices then you'll like Patong.
Karon Beach was the best thing about Patong IMO. I'll put a TR in the Phuket section soon. A few pics of Karon Beach and one pic near Ko Phi Phi.
Oh, if you want to see the current destruction of these beautiful locales just take a day tour to Bamboo Island, Ko Phi Phi. The boat operators are a dropping a thousand achors a day on these delicate fish habitats and guess what? No fish. The tour was not an enjoyable day for me, what a shame.[/QUOTE]Thanks Socker. Good info.

Also good that you found and enjoyed the 2 cuties on your trip.

Looks like we are getting requests for info from newbies lately. While some of us tell the poster to RTFF while others come to the rescue. I think it is time to start a new thread called Newbie Questions so that some of us don't get irritated whille others can respond to them out of their goodness of heart.

So Jackson, how about it.

If you are looking for a general map they use to have them in the area where you get your luggage and the money changers are located. They are just basic maps but do show the main streets and some of the points of interest. Now this was a couple of years ago so might have changed now.

[QUOTE=Steve7777;1641869]Girls don't want to say short time is 1 hour because some guys will hold them to it. Many times it takes 10 minute to complete the job.

Its not really much fun for them having a fat bald sweaty man all over them.[/QUOTE]Not a fat bald sweaty man but your first sentence sums up exactly why I go to oilies. I am buying a block of time and can pop as many times as I want during that time. Guys often complain about the costs of P4 P in places like the US. But in the US when you buy an hour you get an hour. With a GoGo gal if you shoot in 10 min you are done and as dudes from this board have observed most guys are in ST hotels for less than 20 min and remember that includes showers before and after.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1642014]Looks like we are getting requests for info from newbies lately. While some of us tell the poster to RTFF while others come to the rescue. I think it is time to start a new thread called Newbie Questions so that some of us don't get irritated whille others can respond to them out of their goodness of heart.

So Jackson, how about it.[/QUOTE]Good suggestion but I for one do not want one. Maybe Jackson can make a notation to Newbie when signing up to check the particular thread to do some or little research? " Highly suggested before asking Questions familiarize yourself with the Forum and Threads as to not get a negative response from some Senior Member " History dictates the future? And so far creating new thread each time someone gets irritated has not been the solution. The more that is added the more confusing Newbie gets by looking at the current format so they ask Questions to cut through the paperwork?

Vote: Yes = 1.

No = 1.

[QUOTE=Calvito;1641755]Has anybody got a HJ or more from from a massage offered at the hotels? Hoe strict are the hotels on this?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

My impression is that BKK hotels are more into money than morals, and for in-room massage sex is quite common. But as all kinds of sex services are widely available all over BKK, I have never bothered to ask (the also overpriced) massage girls in hotels there.

In general, with some carefully worded hints from you (and a visible indicator that you need a relief after the massage is finished), such services are normally offered by the girl if this is on her menu. If you take your time for some small talk before starting, and make enough signs of pleasure during massage, the ice should be sufficiently broken for her to suggest what's available at the end.

If she is not into this, she will anyway be used to clients getting aroused, that's nothing to be ashamed of even if the deal is strictly massage. A lady in Moscow even made a point of it for me to watch, when each time she squeezed my thigh muscles, the tent pole under the towel grew taller. We had a great laugh about it, but nothing sexual happened other than she gave me a short kiss and a slap on my butt as she left the room.

In some other countries I have had great success through this subtle approach: HJ, CBJ, BBBJ, BBBJTCWS, CFS, and, believe it or not, even landed a handful of freebies this way! My now regular GF in Jakarta is one example, she did not mention any extra services, nor asked for any extra charge, but simply drifted on into steaming sex and a genuine GFE after a massage session. I moved to another hotel next morning, in order to continue our relationship without the scrutinizing eyes of her manager. Otherwise it probably would have cost her the job.

One trick worth sharing: Ask her early on how much guests normally tip her. If she is into extras, she will probably mention somehow that there are two leagues of tippers. Then the rest is plain sailing.

Monger on!

-Peff.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1642014]Looks like we are getting requests for info from newbies lately. While some of us tell the poster to RTFF while others come to the rescue. I think it is time to start a new thread called Newbie Questions so that some of us don't get irritated whille others can respond to them out of their goodness of heart.

So Jackson, how about it.[/QUOTE]If the newbies did their home work we not need it.

It's all there if they go read and look.

After 2 weeks in Pattaya, 2 weeks BKK:

Bamboo massage: 3000 baht, great massage +sex.

Beergarden: beerbarbeauties, wow.

Thermae: loved the atmosphere, but. Strange place, definitely worth a visit.

Dr BJs bar: went there 4 times, loved it; 700 bht for BJ and you can have sex too (for more baht of course).

Nana: cold, old, . Only went to Baccara (surrounded by Koreans / Japanese people), where I saw the most beautiful girls of my entire trip.

Eden club: had a threesome, professional, not bad.

Aloft hotel: I recommend it!

Sofitel Sukhumvit: I recommend it even more but it's 2 x the price of Aloft.

Disco levels: recommended (and opposite.

Oscars: up-level night club / bar / resto with niice girls.

Soi Cowboy: next year.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1640146]I've concluded that any / many of you will never be asked to be 100% Thai because you are white. See the equation is this I look like them, they think I'm one of them until I speak, I'm 50% already there now all they have to do is change the other 50%, learn more Thai, I eat Thai food just like Chinese except spicy?

Once they met me it was love at first sight because of all the stuff I just mention to you. Shit I can see it on their face and I heard them " he looks like us and has money? ".[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1640590]Let's be straight here! We are talking in generalization and that includes me! I think we can all agree that Bangkok being the capital has lot more to offer in terms of education, culture, and a greater variety of people in how they think? It has been point out there are wonderful poor uneducated people upcountry.

People come in all shape and size and live everywhere but Pattaya does seem to bring or let say teach the innocents who come the worse part about Thailand?

In the end, everyone is different looking for different things and paying different prices including looks, the conversation goes on and on but whatever one decides just enjoy and nothing stays the same?
[/QUOTE]Hi LittleBigMan,

I am an Asian American as well. However, unlike you, I was not born & grew up there. I was an immigrant. Anyway, I got my education, worked, and lived in both sides for about 50%:50% of my life time, which made me now 50% Asian & 50% American, I guess.

From your posts, I can see that you're 100% American, but the Thai people want you to be 100% Thai because of your Asian descent.

So, in the end, you're be stuck in a situation that you don't get the privileges which a Farang usually receives from the Thai people, nor do you get the privileges of being accepted as a Thai.

But you have to remember that the thing is, the US is a melting pot and a nation of immigrants, and Thailand is not.

In the US, you can decide to be what you want to be. You can either choose to be melt into the mot and integrate into the society as an American, or you can also choose to live in a bubble in a specific community happily as a Thai, a Chinese, a Japanese, etc. It's your call to be an insider (an American) or an outsider (non-American).

On the other hand, in most Asian countries, it is usually the majority of the local people who decide what you can be. For instance, guys with a Western face will always be seen as a foreigner, a farang, an outsider. Even if they were born, grew up, live in Thailand, and speak Thai as their mother tongue, they will never be fully accepted as a Thai.

By the same token, in your case, you look like a Thai ('cause you're Asian) to them, so they automatically see you as a Thai, a local, an insider.

You see what I mean?

They can't understand and accept the idea that a White guy can be 100% Thai or that an Asian guy can be 100% American. It's not in their mindset.

I am not judging. It's just my observation.

In your case, you seem to bothered by the fact that they actually see you as a Thai. You don't want to be seen as a Thai. You want to be seen as a Farang and you always stay away of anything that may make you Thai.

I can somehow relate you on this one. There was a time in my life that I really wanted to have a Western face in order to make my life easier, in both sides.

Lastly, in my opinion, Pattaya is like Las Vegas somehow.

North American pals here, let me explain it this way.

What you see and experience in Las Vegas represent nothing about the real US, and living in Las Vegas surely won't be like living in LOS Angeles, New York, Toronto, or Vancouver.

Even if you live in New York for your whole life, for example, you still don't see the whole picture of it.

What you see and experience depend on where you live, your lifestyle, your hobby, and so many other factors.

By the same token, the above statements applies to every corner in this world.

Anyway, good luck and happy mongering, everyone!

Or is it still raining everyday? A lot or just a short downpour? Can anyone please let me know?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Romeo2882;1641639]Hello brother mongers,

I will be in thailand for a few days on a golfing holiday. I need information on some top class escort agencies (CIS, Central Asian, south east Asian). Can any of the seniors PM me the details. I will be reaching Bangkok on Saturday morning.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]You can also get outcall from many massage shops for half the price or less than escort agencies. Just google mango massage, bamboo massage, snow white massage, cherry massage, all star massage, ez massage, apple massage, addict massage, dream heaven massage, pretty massage, and thanks massage for pictures and rates.