Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2912338]Didn't realise would spark so much debate.

Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. [/QUOTE]As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying … It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.

Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2912537]As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.[/QUOTE]That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and [B]keep to yourself[/B] what you did with your money!

Great tips on travel but best part is pointing out there's no way you can get bored with the ladies of rio in just one month LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2898938]Where have you been and what do you like? A one-month stay gives you a lot of options.

1. Near Rio: Buzios, Ilha Grande for beaches, Petropolis and Parati for the colonial history.

2. SP.

3. Iguassu Falls: You must see this if you've never been.

4. Florianapolis and Santa Catarina for the beaches.

5. Salvador and the Northeast for food, history and beaches.

6. Manaus for the Amazon tours.

7. Lencois Marenhances (sp), for breathtaking landscapes, but it's not an easy destination.

However, if you're only interested in the hobby, I can't imagine that you (or anyone) won't find enough meninas in Rio to keep you occupied for a month.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2912338]Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student.[/QUOTE]Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

That's all bro. But do what you want.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2912537]As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.[/QUOTE]Glad to see our buddy has found someone to back him up. But bro you might be taking this shit too seriously. If you read from any country and cities here, you'll see that this topic brings the most heated debates. Honestly no one truly care and it's for fun, although many usually say it's ruining the game. I don't live anywhere permanently so personally I couldn't care any less.

That said, no need to team up or bring a Texan gang together or losing sleep over this LOL. In case that's the plan. Guys are going to do whatever they want anyway. In fact he should pay her 10 k USD next time, then I will find her and pay her 200 r / $40 USD and bareback her all night incl CIP. That is of course if Vagabundo1 don't find her first LOL.

When a wg gets a nice payday from a chomp, they then charge their favorite clients less or take their BF shopping that week. I can't even begin to tell you how many SA girls that still today I'm banging bareback for $50 USD, university students too ha ha. And charge others min 5 x that amt. Clearly others were making up for my low amts, few would claim that too and said I was lucky being in a BF zone. This also means secretly I should be grateful for those who overpay. Seriously!!

All crap talk aside, negotiating skills is important. I have my own games and tactics. One of them is I let them know I'm not here on vacation and in town a while, and can easily be a resource, prefer to go out as a friend, BF, not as a client. Nonpros and semipros love that when you establish the environment as a normal friendship. Especially for the prideful ones that do not like being seen as a wg.

We rarely discuss money, we discuss business, I've helped girls invest, showed them how to set up webcams for those who model, etc. Sometimes these cam models get taken advantage of by agencies, and have no clue how to set themselves up independently. I also help them practice Math and basic English while in doggy style taking a pounding. Say "Yes daddy" louder! Basically, be more useful than just a dick or ppm. The website is against ppm anyway and encourages actual relationships, mentorships. Even though most do ppm. You can do these things even on short trips and I have.

I've read many reports of fellas building these friendships days or weeks before they arrive in town. And with that this is no brag or some rare success story. Based on other reports many have done this, and this is how you get the BF / friend treatment and you're not just a SD ATM machine.

These comments / suggestions and replies are to help the entire community as a whole, especially new mongers. They're not just "beatings" or critics. Recently someone wrote about his experience in SE Asia that wasnt so great, and noted that wg discriminates based on age, another mentioned the big dick factor is a thing.

What I think on this is that if you let the girl "Defaults" to her price then those things may be in effect. Gringo (which varies in types) tax does exist; for age among other factors. This is why negotiation and relationship building matters. You'll beat the status quo and get a fair treatment if you apply some intelligence. It's not magic.

Agreed. Spot on.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912540]Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.[/QUOTE]

The premium on a university student.

I can see that, especially a international student who could potentially be a Baby Momma, with a education and the ability to earn a income and pass on tradition history, etc.

So Professor Vagabundo is at school today, and I get a Ï have a boyfriend from a girl who is tutoring me.

I still pay her $100 r to read me some music lyrics in her native tongue, which would look really good wrapped around my cock.

But on the uber out of the university, two things happen.

I text a italian university girl, like a hot af body building Italian girl. My inner Enzo Ferrari has like 12 cylinders churning as little Enzos find themselves flowing up my gonads to get in line.

Then some Brazilian student who does want to hug me and start calling me amor and beijos and all that texts and calls in the hour long 100 r ride back to Recreio.

But I don't feel that animal want to plough her brazilian big bunda the way I do my little Russian Seka doll.

But yesterday or the day before I fuck Monique, two times and night, once in the morning, BBFSCIP.

She is coming back over Saturday for the swing at Paris.

Well anyway, I can see the premium for a university girl. But then you have to look at the socioeconomic class -- Nova Iguacu will get you a university federal, what specialty exactly? Hmm.

Now there is a university in. ? . REDACTED heheh.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2912567]Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

That's all bro. But do what you want.[/QUOTE]

University student doesn't mean anything. You can find University student in the termas. She was very hot. After the room, I ask for her number and if she want to spend 5 hours with me. She say only on a few specific day because she have to go to the University. I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her. Every subsequent night she try and I push her away. BTW, these girl do talk to each other. A fuck another girl and she ask me to take her number and she want to meet me outside of the club.

Another girl in SP, at Casarão Augusta. I already fuck, we was walking out of the club, and saw this crazy hot girl walk in. I told my brazilian friend to get her phone number. Next day I texted her. She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.

See, when a girl do shit like that. She might be hot, but it turn me off. Its maybe illogical on my part. In my head, I'm thinking, Since I already have a bad vibe, it is going to be bad.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2912548]That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and [B]keep to yourself[/B] what you did with your money![/QUOTE]I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912748]I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price![/QUOTE]You have to remember that it is always different when it comes to pussy. If this was a forum about fixing cars and the guy said he went to the dealership and bought a part for 3000 reais then someone comes on and says you can get that same part aftermarket for 500 reais, the person would be thanked by everyone instead of being called a cheapskate by some. There would be nobody egging the guy on to keep going to the dealership because it is his money and he should buy those OEM parts if he pleases. But bring pussy into the equation and egos get big and all bets are off.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]University student doesn't mean anything.[/QUOTE]Back in the Help days you know how many chicks claimed to be university students and nurses and all kind of shit? As far as I could tell, it made no difference when it came to fucking. Besides, I used to be a university student and during that time fucked countless university students. I have also fucked plenty of chicks from various occupations for free. Really nothing special that I would need to pay more for. Besides, I am hiring her to fuck, not to study, do legal briefs, give enemas, or none of that other shit that she may be doing outside of the bed. Her being a university student or whatever the hell else counts the same amount of points as her telling me her favorite color is orange.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her.[/QUOTE]There was a chick like that in Kenya a couple of months ago. She said 100. I said 100 shillings (74 cent) is not enough. She said $100. I laughed. I told her 5,000 shillings ($37) as that was the most common price I saw in the forum. She rejected it and said at least 8,000 shillings ($60). I said no way. Like you said, everyday after that she started blowing me up wanting to come for the 5,000. I pulled my Fat Joe on her though. Ohhh, but yesterday's price is not today's price. Somebody with less ego already came and got the 5,000. Today's price is 3,000 shillings ($22).

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.[/QUOTE]It is because they lead with ego, then that next day those bills and hunger override the ego and they come to their senses.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912748]I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.[/QUOTE]The problem is that you have no experience of what he experienced. He already tried the cheaper place and did not find it there. He can only save money by taking a girl not to his liking.

It maybe funny to consider it as a competition, but that is what it is. The girls in Sao Paulo may not even reply to you if your profile is not good enough to her. One way to learn is to have the girl show you how other men are presenting themselves, and how they attract their attention. People are not sharing for many reasons. The response here is one reason.

He was paying less before. There is an large upward price increase in Sao Paulo. There is no room for bargaining for some girls like he mentioned and some were asking per hour. This is from personal experience. The most reliable way to find the same type of girls for less is to spend time to prepare to talk to more girls before the trip.

If you can find the same type of girls in the cheaper place, you are one of the lucky ones.

He paid more for his time, not for the girl's time.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2912338]english-speaking university student[/QUOTE]He wants this, not just university student. If your example doesn't qualify, then it doesn't help him. I think he wanted certain style or type of girls that he often found in university students. If you can't tell the difference, again, good for you because you are paying less to get the same result.

With some work, you can get the english speaking and / or unviersity aspect of the interaction which itself is a cool thing. I won't reveal deets or sources and methods, so to speak, but it's a little common sense, and a little work.

That said, Mr. E is right. University pussy is just pussy.

The great thing about Rio is that you have the best pussy infrastructure on earth right here at any tier, any cost level, just a uber or bus or metro ride away, so you can structure a life to get both hot ass fuck on command pussy from some prive girls at a low price, and get the interaction with the english speaking unviersity girls. Maybe not all at the exact same time, but with all the physical and mind fucking you want or need.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2912794]He wants this, not just university student. If your example doesn't qualify, then it doesn't help him. I think he wanted certain style or type of girls that he often found in university students. If you can't tell the difference, again, good for you because you are paying less to get the same result.[/QUOTE]