Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2449529]No. She drank me out of 700 baht the first hour! I have all this liquor. But when chicks come over I make them drink it only with ice. No problem. This chick is only 47 kg. She will have 1 or 2 drinks of this strong shit and be finished. WRONG! WRONG!

First I let her try some Malibu. She said it was too sweet. I made her finish the serving though. Then she was staring seeing what she wanted to try next. She picked up the Amaretto, but I told her that was sweeter than the Malibu. So she tried the Gentleman Jack. After that she wanted more but I was not going to let her drink all of that. So she started drinking Chivas. She drank half of a 1 liter bottle of Chivas finishing it off.

I literally had to cut her off. She was at the bar trying to see what to drink next. The only way I could stop her was to turn off everything in the room so it would be black dark and she could not see. Then I made her go to sleep. I have no idea how guys like dealing with drunk chicks. It is like herding cats. The next day I told her from now on there is a 2 drink maximum.

Speak of the damn devil. She just hit me up trying to come over again.[/QUOTE]So she drank some of your liquor. Big deal. Just buy some more. Did she polish your knob good? If so, it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Based on your handle, you clearly have the resources to travel around the world to hobby. So a woman less fortunate who has to sell her body to make a living drank some of your precious liquor. Get over it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2449840]The problem with your "same girls" reasoning is in most go-go bars and the other venues you mentioned there is a small percentage of girls that would qualify as high demand, maybe 10-20% at best.[/QUOTE]Another problem is that the people who are taking chicks out of gogos are not saying yippeee. I got the girl with the star beside her name meaning that she is in high demand. Not that what 8 out of 10 other punters want concerns me and what I want. Hell, I am sure that they have high demand ladyboys too. I am not chasing after something just because someone says it is high demand.

MP (and BB at times) is the ONLY one that puts pictures up to support his claims. And mfs still have the audacity to doubt he even exists, despite having met several members from the board. So it is a no win.

For all anyone else knows the rest of the people saying my girl is better than yours because she would not take less than 3000 baht from me could be choosing from the other 80 or 90% that are not in high demand. Afterall, being that they are the same price, who is supposed to judge who has the longer dick without having mamasan's score card?

So the question still remains then, where can these so-called high demand girls be found when they are not inside of a gogo (or Soi 6, in reference to XXL's favorite chicks that he can't seem to find semblance of outside of the place)? Are they somewhere reclused like Howard Hughes or do they brave to walk amongst all of us normal folk outside of gogo hours? I mean since nobody else can seem to point out these mystical creatures outside of a gogo and all.

First it was if you are not paying 3000 baht for a gogo girl then you are not shit. Now it has changed to if you are not paying 3000 baht for these 3 particular gogo girls then you are not shit. Nobody will ever score with all of this goalpost moving.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2449756]Be careful. Some morons may believe that the chick got hit with an ugly stick between the first date when you picked her up in the gogo and paid 3000 and the third date when she was freelance for 1000. Because you could never get a good looking girl for that pittance.

Are you negotiating this beforehand?[/QUOTE]The ones that I have a third time are the ones where we have a fun time just being together and talking, a connection. Those are pretty girls, but not the most beautiful ones in the bar. I have found that the most beautiful girls are often pains in the ass in the room.

When exchanging Line information, I typically say something like "more next time". She agrees to nothing specific, but the condom doesn't appear for the next session. Sometimes the condom didnt appear the first session.

My appearance and demeanor may be related to my success using this technique. I'm an older farang and a bit heavy, but I have a clean and carefully groomed appearance. I am always very laid back, calm, never drunk, and I stay in decent hotels, like Mercure in BKK or LK Empress in Pattaya. I give the impression that I have little experience in the hobby (which makes me worry that they may see me as a mark for theft). I tell them I've had a vasectomy (true) and they see me as low risk. I think they might also see me as a possible sugar daddy after I go back home, though this has seldom been discussed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2449852]...
MP (and BB at times) is the ONLY one that puts pictures up to support his claims.
...[/QUOTE]And as far as I know neither one of them are claiming or even remotely suggesting they routinely and the vast majority of the time (90%) get BBFS+CIP in the first hour of the first session with zero discussion about condoms for 500-700 baht with any of those girls.

Ah, then there's your golden opportunity to really drive your insistent point home and show up the rest of us for the inexperienced losers you suggest we are; Why not search out those particularly attractive (and well reviewed, so it won't just be about looks) girls featured in MP and BB's posts, score them for BBFS+CIP in the first hour of the first session with zero conversation about condoms and only pay them 500 baht.

Then report how it all turned out here and really make the rest of us look like fools.

Actually, it ought to be easier to do that these days than ever considering the current dire economic circumstances. Although I know your position is that result can and would happen routinely and quite easily with all manner of Thai girls even during normal times, high season times and when the streets, bars and clubs are packed with eager customers.

I have a theory on why I don't see Pretty Thai girls walking Pattaya during daylight hours at Terminal 21 or Central. There just aren't many pretties living in Pattaya period.

So much more opportunities to make money in BKK is my take. Customers in Patts want cheap. Couple that with low volume of customers make it a tough go, for the girls.

Soi 6 gets a lot of likes. I have yet to see a 6.1 or better. I have yet to see more than 3 farangs in a bar at one time.

That's a good one the 700 baht girl with a star. Gold Star I presume?

Mr E short for Mr Entertainment. I don't know if drives people to post or scares them away with his price Gestapo techniques.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2449911]Ah, then there's your golden opportunity to really drive your insistent point home and show up the rest of us as the losers you suggest we are; Why not search out those particularly attractive (and well reviewed, so it won't just be about looks) girls featured in MP and BB's posts, score them for BBFS+CIP in the first hour of the first session with zero conversation about condoms and only pay them 500 baht.

Then report how it all turned out here and really make the rest of us look like fools.
[/QUOTE]For the goalpost to be moved again? It would still be but this, but that, the same way it is now and the same way it has always been. I already admitted that there was no way to win at this thing. I know what is going on in this room. All I am trying to do is pass along information. Take it or leave it. Try it or don't. Of course what works for some will not work for all. But to say this does not work because I have never tried it is asinine.

[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2449689]Thai girls seem to like to check their weight on a scale to know if they gained or lost. This one was 44 kg. Her natural tits must have been at least 1 kg each.[/QUOTE]Fuck me, wow! Incredible body.

The Tall Man.

Upload a stylish smart looking pictures of yours in chatting app you use. Brother I am also in you group girls did ask me almost 1. 5 time they ask other guys. Try soi6 gurls may be ruby club their you can find nice affordable girl or near by bars in soi 6.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2449766]I think I get the high a quotes because perhaps these girls just don't want to fuck me. Maybe they detest my style or looks from my profile. Or perhaps I do not know how to select the right girls. It could be that my perspective on what's hot and sexy is iffy. The girls may be in reality "ugly" by most standards and they are going to try to "milk" me for the most amount of money when the opportunity comes. Take this one girl who doesn't seem to have the self confidence to even reply to her messages from men. She probably sees me as a sucker and hence the 2000 baht short time rate, which seems high. I've been told that my ideal body type for a girl is rare (and somewhat not sexy), but I did see something pretty close yesterday near Tree Town that will keep me searching. Or perhaps, I've been mistaken all along and this body type is actually "ugly" by human standards? A little guidance or help from those still here would help. I'm always ready to listen and learn on how to spot top talent, get them for cheap, and get GFE service on a daily budget. I can offer a free lunch or dinner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2449781]Chill Inn Pizza Review[/QUOTE]Good pizza and pasta is a real struggle in Pattaya.

In fairness each girl has different styles. Rates has went up across SEA in the last 10 years. All it takes is for 1 guy to be generous and give a 2 k girl 5 k. Now she thinks she is 5 k. Some girls have expensive habits or boyfriends and families. Some girls are competing with their girlfriends. One of Mr. E's ex was preoccupied because she knew a girl that could dance better and had better business acumen and a few good sponsors. So yes girls compete to see who is the highest earner. Ladies take it personal if you give her friend 3 k and she only got 2 k. Mr. E ex didn't want to look for a new customer everyday because she is older and wants steady revenue. She was OK with slow money vs fast unpredictable income streams. Girls rely on street smarts. YMMV. Plus you may feel its trivial to bicker over 300 baht whereas a fixed income pensioner feels that savings let him live it up at McDonalds. The weekend millionaires and tourists keep rates high off indifference and ignorance. They may have been home saving all year and are not going to ruin their holiday over 3 k. Some guys don't care about money. They cut corners by not buying clothes or cars. They value female companionship. There are old guys who have no qualms spending half of their income on the hobby. You should go in knowing market rate and what's fair. Some guys don't tip satisfactory service or give bike fare. I would talk to the vets and research the Patts honey market and start spending what you feel comfortable with. Do not let guys price shame you when locals are getting it for free or the girls are treating them to dinner. I know guys that will buy girls commissioned drinks all night and lie that they got the goods for free. Worrying about working girls can be time consuming. At the end of the day it is a business transaction. Which means your not on the hook for pandemic crisis etc. There is a Laotian lady on Soi 6. The 2 and time I hired her outfall. She waited until Soi 6 closed and wanted the barfine too. I thought this chick is loyal to the bar. Since she couldn't give me a break I don't always buy her a drink when I see her and I don't barfine her. The freebie and girls that worked with you should get consideration. The girls that stay with me 30+ minutes. Over a lady drink are in my good graces. Chicks that charge more than market value / completely about the bar won't get special considerations in lean times. Some guys pump / dump. So say it's what he really wants but he pays double. He reserves the right not to repeat. Repeating with a girl who hurts your wallet is a recipe for disaster unless she is your dream girl. Mr. E theme is shop around because he has many options. He can find a serviceable or comparable companion he likes at his price point. Girls can keep their rates high so long. She cannot go home without a customer every night unless she wants to find a new occupation. Alot of these girls can survive off $20 a day. So 3 k for 1 hour of laying on their back is winning. Plus some girls like sex and meeting men which is the cherry on top. Simps allow the girls to hold out when they get big cam money or Western Union care packages. Besides why keep a girl around when your handing her 2000 baht a day but once a week she goes quiet if you don't have exact change for the baht bus? In a nutshell if Patts is not cheaper or easier than dating a civilian or your getting girls out of your league it isn't worth the fuss. Guys that live in Patts or visit frequently should be getting the hometown discount. The weekend millionaires model is exhausting.

Criminal activity up in Pattaya? Released criminals are being re-arrested in my neck of the woods. I see a lot of angry people on the streets like never before. I don't live in the hood. I live in a high priced Real Estate area.

I eat lunch at a busstop every day. One of these hoodlums walk nearby I'm afraid of being a crime statistic. Hard to enjoy lunch.

I'm not going to identify her but she had a customer who paid her triple her normal rates. The caveat was this was 1 day out of the week. He was not loyal and didn't respect her. Yes the ladies have to eat too. But she knew the rest of the week she needed a boyfriend who didn't demean her even if he paid her market rate. Technically a holiday girlfriend arrangement. So yes some girls will be with a pig occasionally for 10 k but appreciate a respectful 1 k customer more if he is treating her like a lady and making time for her. In closing I can give a girl 4 x Mr. E's donation and she still prefer Mr. E. As the board has been saying he is boots on the ground and in town more than me. Just don't be the nice guy getting burned by the girls. It is a business do not take things personal. Patts is more competitive than ever with recent influx of men under 35 years old. Of course team 1990's will try to score for free.

They can get with a local man. Say a middle of the pack working girl has 20 guys kicking the tires during high season on a busy weekend. Say Grandpa has lived in Patts for 10 years. He may say no. But say the Navy guy is in town he may bite. Then the weekend Millionaire from Mid East the next night. So even if she gets a quarter of the guys to bite (5) she is meeting her quota. It is feast or famine. During low season she may take Mr. E's offer. MP: some guys avoid weekends to get lower rates and others avoid high season. Sometimes it takes patience. Mr. E might let a girl sit on his offer for the weekend and maybe she jumps on it the next weekend. Mr. E isn't a sitting duck. He makes offers to multiple women. Sometimes they have to wait their turn after giving him a chance. During the good times the girls knew their were planes full of men with full wallets landing every week. The newbies and rookies reward marginal and hot girls all the time. They think they have access to good girls. MP understand. Some girls have jobs. This allows them to keep rates high. If she can sell lots of lady drinks she can be more loyal to her real boyfriend. If 100 guys are western union her baht she can hold out. Some girls may say. I can take MP 2 k or party on walking st with her girlfriends. If MP counters with 1500. Guess what? Mr. E is with her up later that night at the disco. When negotiating with these girls know when to be firm and walk away unless your ultra horny or have blue balls.

Cool mentions Mid East customers. Is Mr E fond of girl who service ME guys? That would explain a lot.

I don't see why agogos don't have different prices for their staff. Whats so hard about having different colored numbers? It would give the less than desirebles a chance while impacting the stars a smidgeon. Pretty will get customers no matter what.

What say you?

[QUOTE=Cool;2450012]I'm not going to identify her but she had a customer who paid her triple her normal rates. The caveat was this was 1 day out of the week. He was not loyal and didn't respect her. Yes the ladies have to eat too. But she knew the rest of the week she needed a boyfriend who didn't demean her even if he paid her market rate. Technically a holiday girlfriend arrangement. So yes some girls will be with a pig occasionally for 10 k but appreciate a respectful 1 k customer more if he is treating her like a lady and making time for her. In closing I can give a girl 4 x Mr. E's donation and she still prefer Mr. E. As the board has been saying he is boots on the ground and in town more than me. Just don't be the nice guy getting burned by the girls. It is a business do not take things personal. Patts is more competitive than ever with recent influx of men under 35 years old. Of course team 1990's will try to score for free.[/QUOTE]You're completely missing one thing. That people who can pay market price also usually treat girl well. All the girls I have asked this, very few mongers actually treat girls badly. Koreans and Chinese, who pay a very good fee, are usually quite easy going. So assuming that some hot girl would prefer someone who will pay 500-1 k because he treats her well, is not very accurate because there are many who would pay market price or above market price and still treat the girl well.

Saying that, for some mongers, budget and quantity have higher priority than quality, looks and service. Which is quite fine too.