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I've been to Red Square both on weekdays and weekends and it is not that bad.
Weekdays are kind of empty, both on customers' and ladies' side. No new real faces. You see over and over the same girls.
I would say the ratio is 3 to 1 on weekdays in favor of men and 2 to 1 on weekends.
If you haven't been to those places in the past six months, I think it will be fine but don't expect anything fresher than six months old.
[QUOTE=ExoticFruit;3065449]How's the meat market crowd in places like Czar or RS amidst the current situation with the war?[/QUOTE]
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Prices not decreasing?
With the significant downturn in Dubai tourism and overall commercial activity in Dubai due to the situation in the Middle East, I would've definitely thought prices would decrease at least somewhat or providers would be having plenty of discounts or "promo's". I mean, there's no way demand isn't down at least 30-40% for this hobby.
Just messaged some Telegram agencies of Russian girls, and they're still charging the same prices, with new girls being added weekly / daily.
Supply and demand doesn't apply to this industry?
Really curious.
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Life as Normal
[QUOTE=Jbob084;3065804]With the significant downturn in Dubai tourism and overall commercial activity in Dubai due to the situation in the Middle East, I would've definitely thought prices would decrease at least somewhat or providers would be having plenty of discounts or "promo's". I mean, there's no way demand isn't down at least 30-40% for this hobby.
Just messaged some Telegram agencies of Russian girls, and they're still charging the same prices, with new girls being added weekly / daily.
Supply and demand doesn't apply to this industry?
Really curious.[/QUOTE]There's a level of uncertainty. The tourist crowd likely has dried up, Emirates load factors are in the toilet, but still a good chunk of local rich pricks and proper mongers to keep them somewhat busy. Yet GPS can stay solvent for far longer than you can bother.
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[QUOTE=Jbob084;3065804]With the significant downturn in Dubai tourism and overall commercial activity in Dubai due to the situation in the Middle East, I would've definitely thought prices would decrease at least somewhat or providers would be having plenty of discounts or "promo's". I mean, there's no way demand isn't down at least 30-40% for this hobby.
Just messaged some Telegram agencies of Russian girls, and they're still charging the same prices, with new girls being added weekly / daily.
Supply and demand doesn't apply to this industry?
Really curious.[/QUOTE]Do not conflate volatile, speculation-driven markets with structurally sticky consumer pricing.
Its more likely prices will go up due to the shortfall from lost demand and the lack of regularity oversight in this segment
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3065844]Do not conflate volatile, speculation-driven markets with structurally sticky consumer pricing.
Its more likely prices will go up due to the shortfall from lost demand and the lack of regularity oversight in this segment[/QUOTE]I came to say this. In fact, based on past behaviour prices follow the "Thai rule" as there is less demand we increase prices to make up total revenue. Yes, this will eventually push demand even lower, but we will counteract by increasing our prices again. It is a foolproof strategy!
Old enough people will recognise this as the way Wang reacted to the introduction of PCs. Those younger may think why they have no clue about Wang, at one time the leader maker of WordProcessors.
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[QUOTE=Cons68;3066028]I came to say this. In fact, based on past behaviour prices follow the "Thai rule" as there is less demand we increase prices to make up total revenue. Yes, this will eventually push demand even lower, but we will counteract by increasing our prices again. It is a foolproof strategy!
Old enough people will recognise this as the way Wang reacted to the introduction of PCs. Those younger may think why they have no clue about Wang, at one time the leader maker of WordProcessors.[/QUOTE]Sounds like whirlpool's cfo's latest dumb strategy. Claiming they have pricing power while they're getting it up the ass.
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Jules
Dropped into Jules last night, first time for months. Very limited number & quality of girls, most disappointing. And the relatively few punters didn't seem very active either. To support a previous comment, those girls that were there seem to be raising prices to counter the lack of business. Asking AED2 k rather than the historical AED1. 5 k. Bit of negotiation and took the only stani I fancied for AED1. 5 k.
Speedo.
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South Asian ladies
Arrived in Dubai in 2023, I paid only for black women. They all work in York. Lately I decided to jump into Indians lady. After some investigations I found out serious phone numbers.
I was with one last night: 800 the 1 HR. I will be with one of her friends in few minutes.
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[QUOTE=HDN2015;3067203]Arrived in Dubai in 2023, I paid only for black women. They all work in York. Lately I decided to jump into Indians lady. After some investigations I found out serious phone numbers.
I was with one last night: 800 the 1 HR. I will be with one of her friends in few minutes.[/QUOTE]The 1st one was very convenient. Nice breast. Good mouth skills. In term of shape she is far from the models I met in Europe. She is more a normy. Except the mouth skills, the service is very basic. When I released my shot she dress up. I reminded the terms of the contract and I required she wore only the top.
The 2nd one was different, very tick juicy ass. Overweight. Nice mouth skills. Same behavior when I released the shot.
Even it is sexual service, I felt the clash of culture. Their English is poor, so better use Google translate and don't expect extensive social times.
I made them laugh a bit but the language barrier was high.
Globally they did the minimum requirements. The experience is little bit above average as inside was very warm and wet which was very nice.
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Glad to be back
Long story short, I couldn't post for a while because when I was in Kuwait (I made monthly trips to dubai) I could not access this website at all, even with vpns and browsers. Now I'm back in the states and have no issue logging on so I plan to share more infomatiom.
My update so far is that I continue to utilize the escort ad agency managers (massage republic, eurogirlescort) instead of going to the meatmarkets. I haven't walked inside red square or czar in years. After you meet several ladies you like, several times, they are generally open to giving you their contact information and bypassing the manager altogether for a far cheaper price for the client (they're not supposed to, but they also hate paying commission to the manger as well). To note, these agency managers don't even live in Dubai, they're in Russia.
I've been generally satisfied with the selection, availability, and negotiations that escort ad managers provide compared to the in-person managers at Czar and Red Square who downright refuse to discuss services. So going forward, that will continue to be my mongering strategy.
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3065844]Do not conflate volatile, speculation-driven markets with structurally sticky consumer pricing.
Its more likely prices will go up due to the shortfall from lost demand and the lack of regularity oversight in this segment[/QUOTE]Correct. And it's the one bad thing about agencies / managers: they don't decease their prices, even for long time regular clients. This is why its important to get the contact information directly of your favorite girl to possibly bypass middleman charges (granted most girls don't stay in dubai for longer than 1-2 week periods, even when you have a favorite), as well as have numerous manager numbers who you can then price check for the the best deal.
But yeah, prices dont go down. They either stay the same, go up, or you try to negotiate a special deal with a regular you may have.
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[QUOTE=NotAKhaleejia;3066092]Sounds like whirlpool's cfo's latest dumb strategy. Claiming they have pricing power while they're getting it up the ass.[/QUOTE]That it certainly is. There seems to be a persisting impression that raising prices translates to exclusivity of sorts. Pfff. Easy to see right through it.
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Possible scam in Marina
Posting here as it probably gets the best exposure and hope it saves others from wasting time and money.
There's a new scam that you might need to be aware of.
Over the last few weeks, I've matched with two ladies on Tinder both of them from Columbia.
The first one we met and went to a bar at the JW Marriott in Marina. It was the cigar lounge on level four.
The first drink she ordered cost 440 AED. But I did not let that order go through.
In the end, she asked for some tequila and I bought the cheapest one and some food.
At the end of the evening, she disappeared and I never heard from her again.
The total bill was around 800 AED.
I put that down to experience and move on.
I matched with another Colombian and after a few few failed attempts to meet mainly because of poor timekeeping on her part we finally met tonight.
Red flag started when she said we should go to the JW Marriott bar on the fourth floor in the marina.
And I thought here we go again. We take a seat and the first thing she tries to order is the shot of whiskey costing 440 AED.
Seems to be a bit of a pattern.
I put a stop to that straight away, but she ordered some food some whiskey. And the total bill came to 700 AED.
I had a glass of water.
So all of that was her.
She said she wanted to leave because I wasn't spending money on her.
I said that's fine just go and she did.
I got back to my room and I've already matched with another lady on Tinder who said she was in the marina mall and was free.
I asked her where she's from she said originally from Columbia but lives in Mexico and is here on holiday.
I asked her where are you now? And she said she's just having an ice cream in the marina mall and she'the be free in 20 minutes.
I asked her where do you want to meet?
And I bet you can't guess where she said!
Yes, you've guessed it. The bar in the JW Marriott Marina on the fourth floor.
She gave me her WhatsApp and I unmatched her and never messaged.
So if you're in the marina area and you match with a Colombian and they invite you to go to the JW Marriott in the Marina mall to the bar on the fourth floor.
Just be careful.
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[QUOTE=RebelLeader;3067973]Posting here as it probably gets the best exposure and hope it saves others from wasting time and money.
There's a new scam that you might need to be aware of.
Over the last few weeks, I've matched with two ladies on Tinder both of them from Columbia.
The first one we met and went to a bar at the JW Marriott in Marina. It was the cigar lounge on level four.
The first drink she ordered cost 440 AED. But I did not let that order go through.
In the end, she asked for some tequila and I bought the cheapest one and some food.
At the end of the evening, she disappeared and I never heard from her again.
The total bill was around 800 AED.
Just be careful.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. You could have stopped when second time she told you to meet in the same bar. These are common scams and someone reported on similar scam in Business bay hotel. Tinder is unsuitable for P4 P in Dubai. Some have success and most of the time it is scam. Asian girls from Philippines, Indonesia use it for dating with normal people. Try to find Colombian on MR or Massage republic. MR looks like more genuine but you still need to watch Red flags.
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[QUOTE=JoeKarnavic;3068028]Thanks for the information. You could have stopped when second time she told you to meet in the same bar. These are common scams and someone reported on similar scam in Business bay hotel. Tinder is unsuitable for P4 P in Dubai. Some have success and most of the time it is scam. Asian girls from Philippines, Indonesia use it for dating with normal people. Try to find Colombian on MR or Massage republic. MR looks like more genuine but you still need to watch Red flags.[/QUOTE]It's actually quite an old and well reported scam. The bars are obviously in on it and was even reported on in the mainstream local newspapers [URL]https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/dubai-nightclub-scam-bumble-date?amp=1[/URL].