Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Gargano19;2450383]Changing destination (country) has its own risks. Thailand has been quite safe for now. Other countries, you never know when the second wave hits, and last thing I would need is to get stuck in a country I am not familiar with. And there are very few countries where girls are actively meeting unknown mongers or new tourists. Many are just meeting regulars, so it will not be that easy to find pussies.[/QUOTE]

Pattaya is one of the only cities where I have fun without getting bored.

I know several other places in the world for P4 P, Africa, Marrakech, Havana, Mexico, Hong Kong, Manila, Angeles, Cebu, Amsterdam and even in Bangkok I end up getting bored.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2450315]When any hooker looks you in the face and says, "2,500 baht", you automatically assume she regularly and often gets paid 2,500 baht? Really? Regardless what your eyes and often your ears are telling you about her relative to other hookers?

Um. Ok.[/QUOTE]Am I the only one who can not see how EihTooms comment has anything whatsoever to do with the long-ass post he quoted?

Mr. Enternational is wrong about him getting away with paying 1000 for what others pay 3000 not having to do with his charm, or rather, attitude though. I have never met him, but based on his posts I'm sure I've seen people like him other places. They give off this "yeah, I get enough pussy as it is. Girls like to hang with me. I don't care much if you go with me or not, but if you go with me, free or not, you better believe I'll fuck you, and you'll have a good enough time too. " vibe.

Girls everywhere in the world find that vibe attractive. Not so attractive that they'd go with him for 1,000 baht instead of beer-belly Bob or grandpa Tom offering 3,000 at the same time, but if they don't have much to do at the moment, hanging out for some hours at a discount rate, or even free, is a-ok and much more fun than sitting in the room / restaurant by themselves.

If Bob or Tom suggests the same, they're going to say no, unless they're desperate for money, 'cause it just ain't fun hanging out with beer-belly Bob or grandpa Tom. This is why I think some feel the need to "not believe", or think the girls are more ugly than others. There's not much point in others trying to respond in a similar way to him as it's going to come of really incongruent and fake. The girls will just think you're stupid and laugh at you. If you're not a natural at this, you might be able to "fake it 'till you make it" though, if you put in the work.

[QUOTE=Allover;2450324]Team 1990's?

Grandpa's? Do you have issues with old guys? Just curious. You have done this before too.[/QUOTE]It's just colorful wordplay. Most expats are older in Thailand. I was just giving an example. And you're right people make fun of the old guys on this board. But guess what? People that don't monger are even harsher. Everyone cannot stay young forever. I understand the 60 year old crowd like to cheat to prove they still got it. I have lots of friends that get fits when you tell them they are not 60 yo alpha males.

[QUOTE=Allover;2450324]Team 1990's?

Grandpa's? Do you have issues with old guys? Just curious. You have done this before too.[/QUOTE]Team 90's was born in the 90's and are 30 and under. It's the best years of their lives. Of course they're going to try to hook up with the exotic lasses for free if they are fit and handsome. It's their best chance. They should put some effort. It would hurt their egos. Sorry, outsiders see old P4P guys as washed up has been. They see the hobby as abnormal. That is why politicians want to clean up the lucrative nightlife. They want the family Disneyworld vibe. My apologies to anyone who feels they are competing with men half their age. Makes me wonder if everything is so kosher, why visit Patts multiple times? I have no problem with guys believing the girls when they are coaxing their egos. They have families to care for. I'm not better than anyone. But a lot of guys have fragile psyches in SEA.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2450389]Am I the only one who can not see how EihTooms comment has anything whatsoever to do with the long-ass post he quoted?[/QUOTE]I think what he meant was that just because WG asked for 2500 b doesn't mean she's worth that much. Maybe she gets 1000 b usually and scoring her for 700 B is not a big deal. I see so many WGs who ask for 3000 and then agree to 1000 instantly, and to be fair, based on their looks they don't deserve more.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2450389]Mr. Enternational is wrong about him getting away with paying 1000 for what others pay 3000 not having to do with his charm, or rather, attitude though. I have never met him, but based on his posts I'm sure I've seen people like him other places. They give off this "yeah, I get enough pussy as it is. Girls like to hang with me. I don't care much if you go with me or not, but if you go with me, free or not, you better believe I'll fuck you, and you'll have a good enough time too. " vibe.

Girls everywhere in the world find that vibe attractive. Not so attractive that they'd go with him for 1,000 baht instead of beer-belly Bob or grandpa Tom offering 3,000 at the same time, but if they don't have much to do at the moment, hanging out for some hours at a discount rate, or even free, is a-ok and much more fun than sitting in the room / restaurant by themselves.
[/QUOTE]You're right, I see and know so many guys who get girls just by their personality and charm, even in Thailand. But thinking of yourself as casanova, after fucking a hooker and paying her money is ludicrous.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2450389]Am I the only one who can not see how EihTooms comment has anything whatsoever to do with the long-ass post he quoted?
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[/QUOTE]I hope so. Otherwise, there is a serious rash of reading and comprehension problems occurring among ISG members.

It is right there, practically spelled out in the first two sentences of the post I quoted and then the point is somewhat elaborated on in the rest of his post with an auto purchase analogy and so on.

There is a tomboy on TF under the female listings. The bone structure and facial features are there to be potentially very nice looking to very hot. I'm trying my best here to fuck. Anybody hit this yet? Perhaps Monkeypaw can make her love dick once more.

[QUOTE=Gargano19;2450398]I think what he meant was that just because WG asked for 2500 b doesn't mean she's worth that much. Maybe she gets 1000 b usually and scoring her for 700 B is not a big deal. I see so many WGs who ask for 3000 and then agree to 1000 instantly, and to be fair, based on their looks they don't deserve more.
... [/QUOTE]Not so much that she is not "worth" her first quoted price, but that there is no reason to automatically believe she regularly and often gets paid 2,500 baht (for example) just because 2,500 baht is the first number that comes out of her mouth.

But your second sentence nails it.

Especially if we are looking at a hooker who is, say, 15-20 years older, 10-15 kilos heavier and 3 babies saggier than girls in the same vicinity who can and do quite regularly get paid 2,500 baht for their time and services.

I would no more automatically believe such a hooker regularly and often gets paid the same amount of money as the easily observable nearby alternatives than I would believe a tuk-tuk driver with a broad smile reaching out to shake my hand and saying, "Hey! I remember you!"

Because it is always interesting to have different point of views, I post the comment of a friend who is living since several years in Pattaya. He is married to a Thai girl. I known him over 20 years ago, we worked together in the same company in Paris.

Of course you can react and confirm or not depending on what you know about the situation on the spot or what you have observed.

This is about the video I posted earlier " will Pattaya survive? ".

"I did not know this video, but unfortunately it reflects reality, exodus of working girls, moving bars, endless queue for food distributed mainly by the farangs of" bars "(3 km this am Chayapoum / buakao), etc.

I think nothing will ever be the same, even though you can find everything you want.

Since there are no customers, it is easy to find among those who remain.

The government has also showed the color: the Chinese, Koreans and other countries close to Thailand will be welcome. And the purification of PTY of "dirty farangs" which corrupt the beautiful Thai youth.

No visibility on my return to France and for you no hope of a return to Thailand this year".

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2450413]The government has also showed the color: the Chinese, Koreans and other countries close to Thailand will be welcome. And the purification of PTY of "dirty farangs" which corrupt the beautiful Thai youth.[/QUOTE]Let us recall that the "dirt" started in China (and is still there).

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2450413]Because its year".[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2450103]A fePrivate Videos.[/QUOTE]Thank you both. Very helpful. Goodbye Pattaya and thanks for the memories.

[QUOTE=Cool;2450396] Of course they're going to try to hook up with the exotic lasses for free if they are fit and handsome. It's their best chance. They should put some effort. It would hurt their egos. Sorry, outsiders see old P4P guys as washed up has been.[/QUOTE]Some of us were too busy doing local pussy at home for free in our 20's to even consider doing P4 P in Thailand. Seeing young, handsome guys begging to barfine some third tier skanks in Pattaya now, that really oozes of desperation to me. But to each their own.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2450519]Some of us were too busy doing local pussy at home for free in our 20's to even consider doing P4 P in Thailand. Seeing young, handsome guys begging to barfine some third tier skanks in Pattaya now, that really oozes of desperation to me. But to each their own.[/QUOTE]Some guys do the soapie as a tourist thing. Some young guys today are scared of the #MeToo movement.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2450404]There is a tomboy on TF under the female listings. The bone structure and facial features are there to be potentially very nice looking to very hot. I'm trying my best here to fuck. Anybody hit this yet? Perhaps Monkeypaw can make her love dick once more.[/QUOTE]I had two Toms before. One that saw / met me on Beach Road, she was a bartender named Tee and the other was from the deep south of Thailand named Meaw. Both never had the BBC and wanted to try, I didn't leave them disappointed. Fuck, I got to get out of this sex prison!.

[QUOTE=Cool;2450396]Team 90's was born in the 90's and are 30 and under. It's the best years of their lives. Of course they're going to try to hook up with the exotic lasses for free if they are fit and handsome. It's their best chance. They should put some effort. It would hurt their egos. Sorry, outsiders see old P4P guys as washed up has been. They see the hobby as abnormal. That is why politicians want to clean up the lucrative nightlife. They want the family Disneyworld vibe. My apologies to anyone who feels they are competing with men half their age. Makes me wonder if everything is so kosher, why visit Patts multiple times? I have no problem with guys believing the girls when they are coaxing their egos. They have families to care for. I'm not better than anyone. But a lot of guys have fragile psyches in SEA.[/QUOTE]Guess I've been lucky that people who meet me usually don't feel I am a washed up has been. Thanks for bringing me to the real world. Your wisdom is appreciated.