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[QUOTE=Frannie]I think the country doesn't want to be known as a sex tourism destination.
Actually the chica herself had no problem appearing in the movie, but she wanted more money than was offered. At least it reads that way.[/QUOTE]Everyone already know know what it is, you have natives in the United States the broadcast what goes on, my Barber shop knows i'm going and they said what i'm going for thats neither here nor there!!!!
[QUOTE=SavePros321].......also keeps the punter from making front page after being mugged and/or stabbed trying to deal with "uncontrolled" putas.
I'm sure the DR's government understands that if Punters don't feel safe spending money in their country then we will simply find someplace else to go. Crimes against punters is bad PR for the country.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, although I imagine that economics is only part of the reason. It seems to be an integral and, therefore, accepted part of the culture, in my opinion. Hell, I have no doubt that the foreign monger faction is but a fraction of the overall activity taking place on the island. Anyone who would have any doubt about it need look no further than the thousands of cabanas dotted around the country, cabanas that were built to serve the Dominican populace, not the foreign monger.
Prostitution in that country isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
[QUOTE=Twice Divorced]Absolutely, although I imagine that economics is only part of the reason. It seems to be an integral and, therefore, accepted part of the culture, in my opinion. Hell, [B]I have no doubt that the foreign monger faction is but a fraction of the overall activity taking place on the island. [/B]Anyone who would have any doubt about it need look no further than the thousands of cabanas dotted around the country, cabanas that were built to serve the Dominican populace, not the foreign monger.
[B]Prostitution in that country isn't going anywhere anytime soon.[/B][/QUOTE]If you were to get out of So-sewer, the puta capital of the DR, you will find that the DR is a beautiful country NOT dependant upon prostitution. The gringo and his cash is a hard find other than in puta city. So don't think for one second the DR would collapse without the monger's cash. To you and other mongers don't ever think the entire country is like Sosua. Go to SD, Jarabacoa, Santiago, Juan Dolio, and see how much sex you can get with your cash. These chicas won't as much give a gringo the time of day. Matter of fact you can visit the campo or the barrios and you will find prostitution is not the main cash flow buisness of the DR.
Yes, the cabanas are used primarily for Dominicanos and their novias.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]If you were to get out of So-sewer, the puta capital of the DR, you will find that the DR is a beautiful country NOT dependant upon prostitution...[red]To you and other mongers [b]don't ever think the entire country is like Sosusa[/b][/red]. Go to SD, Jarabacoa, Santiago, Juan Dolio, and [b][i]see how much sex you can get with your cash[/b][/i]. These chicas won't as much give a gringo the time of day. Matter of fact you can visit the campo or the barrios and you will find prostitution is not the main cash flow buisness of the DR.[/QUOTE]In that case, I am DEFINITELY NOT interested in any of the country outside of the "Puta Capital."
Thanks for the heads up Bq Ribs, for I would've been sorely pissed off traveling to other parts of the country and not be able to get sex with my cash. I can stay in America for that scenario.
So fellow mongers, heed Bq Ribs advice: If you want to get laid while you are in DR, stick to the "Puta Capital" Sosua and PP.
Otherwise you end up going home holding your dick, for as Bq Ribs says:
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs][Red]Go to SD, Jarabacoa, Santiago, Juan Dolio, and see how much sex you can get with your cash. These chicas won't as much give a gringo the time of day. Matter of fact you can visit the campo or the barrios and you will find prostitution is not the main cash flow buisness of the DR.[/Red][/QUOTE]I don't know about yall, but I am into "Sex Travel." Being concerned about DR as a "beautiful country" is only an afterthought.
Exactly one week to go bishes!! :)
[QUOTE=SavePros321]....Thanks for the heads up Bq Ribs.....[/QUOTE]No problem, just want to make sure you sex starved mongers keep your little behinds in So-Sewer.
[QUOTE=Alias]This entire website and it's concept is EXPLOITATION!
Life is hard in the DR. Do you really think that bonita chica you just paid to fuck you really wants to be with you. She's acting asshole so she can eat. And feed her family. In fact, she has to take drugs and get drunk just to do the deed. [/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I don't agree with your definition of punting as "Exploitation."
I see a business transaction between two agreeing parties: money for sex.
I can assure you that not every woman is engaged in prostitution. But the ones who are more than likely do so because in this business they can make more money than working as a waitress or cleaning hotel rooms.
It's the exact same concept with Porn Stars, Strippers, or Escorts here in the US. Sure, they can go work at McDonalds or even at the bank. But they know where to go and what to do if they're interested in making more money than "everyone else."
But remember, no one is forcing her to "have" to do it in order to survive. She is simply supplying a demand.
Business 101
[QUOTE=Alias]
I've dated a DR woman for the past 7 years.
More specifically, I rescued her from a life on the street that you vultures blog and praise about every fucking day.
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Really? Well congratulations, you've found a woman who is only with you [b]because you've got money[/b]. Welcome to the club!
P.S.: Who is the true EXPLOITER/HYPOCRITE amongst us?
[QUOTE=Alias]
I'm looking for some other perverts (not just mongers... but those that like orgies, swing clubs - yes the locals have them and gang bangs) that want to meet up and [b]exploit[/b] the country...
I'm talking about [b]TRUE EXPLOITATION[/b]... not just partaking of the working girls...
I'm talking about making some of the locals our novias and going back to their campo casa (country home) and fucking both their mother and sisters...
[red]Or, searching the streets for those pregnant single mothers that need cash...
and gang banging her ass (literally) [b]so she can buy some milk for her other turds[/b]....[/red]
[red]Or, best yet, making one of the ugly putas [b]our slave for a couple of days[/b][/red]...
tee hee hee... I'm talking about some serious S&M Demented shit...
The point is if you need something more than the local money hunger puntas have to offer hit me up... DR is ripe for [b]exploiting[/b].
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It is guys like you that give the hobby a bad name. Just because she engages in sex work doesn't mean you have to treat her like she is less than shit sir.
BTW, your original post is starting to look very suspect. I am beginning to believe you are a "wolf in sheep's clothing" and are actually an operative of Code Pink. I've only been on this board for a year but never have I come across someone so "excited" about the word "exploitation." I mean damn, you used the word at least 3 times...
[QUOTE=SavePros321]BTW, your original post is starting to look very suspect. I am beginning to believe you are a "wolf in sheep's clothing" and are actually an operative of Code Pink. I've only been on this board for a year but never have I come across someone so "excited" about the word "exploitation." I mean damn, you used the word at least 3 times...[/QUOTE]I'm just going to head off this creep with the handle "Alias" which is some sort of jedi mind trick alias/handle that we can't see through. What he'll say next, I promise, is that we're all exploitators afraid of the word "exploitation."
Personally I feel exploited when I'm talking to a woman in a nightclub and it becomes apparent that she needs me to buy her a drink to continue the conversation. Or when I meet a pretty woman and I'd like to spend more time getting to know her and she insists (along with our oppressive society) that I have to pay (for a meal, or concert tickets, or a house and two cars) for her to keep me company.
And nothing on the face of the earth can be more exploitative than a strip club -- calculate your net worth before you enter one and recalculate when you leave. Has it ever gone up? I didn't ask to have these needs, they came in with puberty, but yet I am exploited for these natural needs.
What's funny is if an older woman does something to make herself feel young again like get plastic surgery -- you ever see the way it's treated if it doesn't work out. She's a victim of some company or surgeon. But if a man does something similar he's an exploiter.
If you get married and the wife stays home full-time while you are the breadwinner -- you exploited her. If she works and you stay home full-time while she is the breadwinner -- you're exploiting her. If you both work and earn the bread -- you're exploiting her (she has add'l burdens of motherhood and faces sexism at work).
If you go to a strip-club and spend a weeks worth of salary in a few hours -- you're exploiting her/them. If you have a penis and you woke up this morning and are still breathing, look around to see the nearest woman (even a blood relative) -- guess what, all together now -- you're exploiting her.
Please let's not feed this troll, my excuse is it's Thanksgiving; and everybody gets fed today.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]If you were to get out of So-sewer, the puta capital of the DR, you will find that the DR is a beautiful country NOT dependant upon prostitution. The gringo and his cash is a hard find other than in puta city. So don't think for one second the DR would collapse without the monger's cash. To you and other mongers don't ever think the entire country is like Sosua. Go to SD, Jarabacoa, Santiago, Juan Dolio, and see how much sex you can get with your cash. These chicas won't as much give a gringo the time of day. Matter of fact you can visit the campo or the barrios and you will find prostitution is not the main cash flow buisness of the DR.
Yes, the cabanas are used primarily for Dominicanos and their novias.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how it is that you misinterpreted my comments as meaning that prostitution is the only "industry" in the country, but you need to re-read my comments again and take them in the vein in which they were meant. Since the OP regarding the topic was mongering related, my comments were limited only to that. It had nothing to do with the country being dependent on it. My ultimate point was that prostitution in the DR exists outside of that which serves the foreigner, hence the comment about the many cabanas that exist in the country. True, to some degree they exist for the "dominicanos and their 'novias'", just make sure you don't tell the Dominicano's wife about it, and certainly don't confront him when he's leaving Illusions or Passions with his "novia" on the way to one of them cabanas. If your point was to give the impression that those cabanas are used solely for "legitimate" relationships, I don't buy it for a second. The average Dominican cannot afford the cost of a room to go fuck his "girlfriend". However, the more affluent Dominican can certainly afford to sneak off with his hooker, I mean, his "novia".
BTW, I have been outside of Sosua. In fact, I rarely go to Sosua and prefer to stop in only on occasion. I have been to all of the places you've listed , with the exception of Juan Dolio (haven't heard enough to make me want to go), and I've had pussy in every one of them. True, the campos and barrios are not prostitution dependent because there aren't enough mongers who will venture into them to make them so. However, read some of the TR's on other sites where mongers did take the gamble and went into these areas. They certainly didn't seem to have much of a problem engaging the local chicas, for a price, of course. HeHeHe
My tie to the DR goes well beyond mongering and I tend to associate mostly with Dominicans when I am there, which is about 6 months out of the year. Are you sure you're as in tune with the place as you seem to believe you are?
[QUOTE=Caribic_Monger]I live since 15 years in Sosua. And everything is sound and save.
Stop writing all this BS.compare to New York Sosua is a save place[/QUOTE]I agree with you, I have been to New York. Harlem, Queens, Manhattan. Etc. You step into the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time and youd wish you gone to Sosua, hell Los Angeles aint no joke. The point is to be aware. And not naive, of your surroundings. Hey Bob. It seems like you are hell bent. On proving that Sosua is a dangerous place. Okay! We get the point! Its one thing, writing on how you need to be cautious. But it seems "the skyy is falling". When it come to you. I've been to Sosua, I am cautious of my surroundings as of any other place, either Domincan Republic or here in Portland, Or. Trouble is trouble no matter where you go. But I won't go as far as to say Sosua is safe and sound. That would be naive on my part.
I know this isn't the only blog for DR mongers online. It appears that chicas can be found without much hunt in nearly any city in the country. I wonder why Sousa is so special? If the foreign monger is afraid of this spot, then go to another. And if many leave, the chicas will follow. Perhaps a new little sea shore village strip with better security.
I'm in the mental health field and I understand all the reasond why these girls and boys give themselves. Where ever you are from in the world, the reasons are less than joyful indeed. We do take advantage of their situations and sadly, we come with our own sad situations to travel for sex without emotional attachment...just like the girls and boys.
But you know, it's always been this way for thousands of years and appearently albeit sad, agreeable exchange.
We all should stop going to the DR because we are just adding to the problem. Yes we are taking advantage of these innocent young women who would not be selling themselves if it were not for us horrible gringos from North America. Yes we must stop at once and these young women would turn themselves back into the great chaste women they are.
Se Vende....this is printed every where. Everything is for sale in the DR and I mean everything. If no more North Americans went there they would still be selling themselves. What is the most confusing day of the year in the DR?
Fathers Day ! That's because they have no clue as to who daddy is!
Alias talks about doing some "really sick shit".
Well nothing I ever came up with to do with a chica ever raised her eyebrows but some of the things they came up with did raise mine.
Just because of who these girls are does not mean you can treat them as non-humans. They are human beings and need to be treated as such. This does not mean because you pay them for some time in the sack that you took them to raise.
Oh and they hate you because you have money. It does not matter where you are from. You have money and they do not. Therefore, they hate you.
I have gone to Boca Chica more times than you guys have fingers and toes. When I went I was an oddity since the place was covered with Italians and Germans. They hated them because they were the most common tourist in the area. Americans were more of a rarity and the vast majority of them stayed at the all inclusive hotels. Therefore, they did not hate me. They loved me. Then bunches of Americans started going and they began to hate Americans.
[QUOTE=Snowbird]We all should stop going to the DR because we are just adding to the problem. Yes we are taking advantage of these innocent young women who would not be selling themselves if it were not for us horrible gringos from North America. Yes we must stop at once and these young women would turn themselves back into the great chaste women they are.
Se Vende....this is printed every where. Everything is for sale in the DR and I mean everything. If no more North Americans went there they would still be selling themselves. What is the most confusing day of the year in the DR?
Fathers Day ! That's because they have no clue as to who daddy is!
Alias talks about doing some "really sick shit".
Well nothing I ever came up with to do with a chica ever raised her eyebrows but some of the things they came up with did raise mine.
Just because of who these girls are does not mean you can treat them as non-humans. They are human beings and need to be treated as such. This does not mean because you pay them for some time in the sack that you took them to raise.
Oh and they hate you because you have money. It does not matter where you are from. You have money and they do not. Therefore, they hate you.
I have gone to Boca Chica more times than you guys have fingers and toes. When I went I was an oddity since the place was covered with Italians and Germans. They hated them because they were the most common tourist in the area. Americans were more of a rarity and the vast majority of them stayed at the all inclusive hotels. Therefore, they did not hate me. They loved me. Then bunches of Americans started going and they began to hate Americans.[/QUOTE]I also wonder how long DR has been a monger destination. Maybe it's just a job like working at Mickey D's. But what ever the case, Whetherr we are Ameriacns, Germans or Italians, they must be treated with respect. And keep in mind we are guest in their beautiful country.
Does the EXPLOITATION theory apply to the 100's of Caucasion women chasing down and "exploiting" the local Dominican men or is is just us men that are the bad guys?
For every looney here that bangs, hits, and "exploits" there are 100's that simply want to come here just to be with a Dominican woman that makes them remember what it feels like to be a man again, And most ALL of us are willing to treat them like ROYALTY in return. Finally, once we again feel like REAL MEN, we are more than willing to feed them, buy them clothes, feed their children and buy their children clothes. When we return, they jump for joy and are excited to see us again and again and again.
I'm a fairly good looking handsome man in my mid 40's with a successful business but the exchange for my time and money is exponentially more beneficial with the novia I found "exploiting" here in the D. R. After 13 years of being beaten up and down in a marriage ending in an ungodly divorce settlement, and an additional 14 years of honest effort to date impossible to please and demanding American women with bad attitudes, sexual hangups, financial demands, and even worse, poor care for their appearance and I'll take a Dominican woman EVERY TIME. All they have ever asked of me is to be treated nicely like a lady, and in return I feel like a KING.
It seemed to me the "bond of marriage" and U. S. Dating rituals were ultimately nothing less than a subtle but effective form of prostitutional extortion and exploitation of ME. Sex has become such a crime in the U. S. That now, just telling a woman how nice she looks, a strong glance, etc. Will get you a look as though you are some kind of pervert. I'll pass!
I'll agree, I see a fair share of "pigs" out there, but no chica has ever been forced to lay down with any of them, it is their choice, and their choice alone. The D. R. Also ensures there are no pimps, and the girls (AND MEN) practicing the trade are doing so at their own free will. Consentual sex and yes, even prostitution is NOT ILLEGAL in the D. R. Matter of fact, unlike their American counterparts, the Dominican women seem to actually enjoy the act of sex, and also take considerable pride in pleasing their man in a non-sexual ways.
The people of the Dominican Republic seem just fine with running their own country. The rest of us are guests and not forced to visit if we don't like it. Unless you are Dominicana, you should stick to manipulating the sexual mentality where you live and try to fix the multitude of your own problems you have in your country.
My kindest thanks for allowing me to express my opinion.
Bob
For every looney here that bangs, hits, and "exploits" there are 100's that simply want to come here just to be with a Dominican woman that makes them remember what it feels like to be a man again, And most ALL of us are willing to treat them like ROYALTY in return. Finally, once we again feel like REAL MEN, we are more than willing to feed them, buy them clothes, feed their children and buy their children clothes. When we return, they jump for joy and are excited to see us again and again and again.
Bob, this section has goine from sex to crime to the needs of the monger and chica or chico. It appears that we all have a different view of each from our own experiences. There's truth in each posting whether someone wishes to exploit and cause harm or enjoy the feelings of having a ship in the night to share our time with. Thats why there are males and females and this thing we call respect. I did appreciate your post.
Arrived Thanksgiving Week. I am your lazy spoon fed monger, This is my first trip to sosua. There was a fantastic post on getting around sosua by pictures. It was very helpful. Stayed in the new wing at the new garden hotel. Great socializing with some fellow mongers.compared to BB's, there were so many places to explore and walk around day or night. My fun is mostly daytime, evening. Didn't do the nightclubs. Pulled in chica's from the hotel, massage parlors, street. Did mostly ST. I never do LT. In my hunting it was a little difficult to find some good quality chicas. I think puerto plata city girls is a step above. At BB's the girls are ready to move on after you pop off, In sosua the girls give you their full time even after the leeche is gone. I had a good time. , Great places to eat, Hung out at the famous Lapassions a couple of times. My one big mistake I made: There were times when I was approached by a chica for some love, but I was not ready for that moment, Should have taken down their phone #'s. Sosua beach is a longer stretch than I thought. Did a day trip to Santiago with my wingman Lionel (your man on the ground). Hooked me up with a non-pro chica for the evening. Back in the cold NYC. I have my memories and smiling on the inside. Thanks to all who post on the forums. You keep me going!