Moscow

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Business visas are good for a year (Europeans can even get a 5-year visa) but during the year you are limited to no more than 90 days within any 180 day period.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks Doc. That makes sense.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky] I'm sure the lesson was not lost on her.[/QUOTE]Actually, it probably was. Ive taught dozens of girls "a lesson" in similar fashion, but I doubt any of them actually learned anything from it.

It is a mystery yet to be solved...

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Option 5 price is still the same as option 1, requiring a company accredited by the Russian Foreign Ministry to hire foreigners, and all details about your background, employment history, and all details about what your work for the company in Russia will involve, where you will stay, for how long, bla bal bla. If you're planning to 'fake' all those documents, you better be ready for problems with the authorities.
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Bezzie - you really don't know anything about this, do you? I, however, have been living this hell for many years, and I can tell you that a business visa is a jog in the park while a work permit is more like the Ironman Triathlon. Anyone can get a business visa with no documents at all - unless you count your passport and a photo. Just takes cash (on the order of [i]just[/i] $500) and a few days. Same can NOT be said of a work permit.

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Not getting married, doing Middle East shuttle diplomacy or paying for University, then Option 2, 3, and 4 won't help you either.
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So what's your proposal? Don't live in Russia? Incidentally, one of my buddies was telling me a funny story about an American expat who's been living here for 15 years with absolutely no documents at all! I've never met the guy, but apparently he's never left Russia since entering, and whenever he gets stopped on the street (which is rare, given that he blends in so well at this point), he just drops them 500R and goes along on his way! No doubt there are Russians who have overstayed their visas in the US, so I just think of it as payback. :)

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]I imagine you could have hooked up with that Latina-looking waitress, if you wanted to pay the price. That thought occurred to me the night I was there, but sadly, I forgot to bring my Molybdenum Amex card. :)
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Ironically, I had a wallet full of cash and was plenty ready to spend it. And the waitresses did get topless at one point and stayed that way until we left. My little pseudo-latina had her arms coyly crossed when she wasn't shuttling drinks - trying to hide her breasts. I'd almost feel guilty if I made her get fully naked in that environment. I did play with the idea of slipping her a 1K note just to judge her reaction, but figured it'd probably just be a waste of money. If I do go back (and hell - it's almost inevitable), I'll see what it'd take to bed her.


[QUOTE]Not sure why, since there was no one on the dance floor, and wouldn't be for the rest of the night.[/QUOTE]

I can't recall seeing anyone dancing at Nightflight... ever. There are other clubs for that sort of thing. LOL.

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The first thing I noticed was the quality of the girls. They looked more like Hot Dog's... on a good night.
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What struck me last time I went (back in early May with Bez) was the increased number of Asians. Half the girls seemed to be from the 'stans. Still, I'd say that most of them looked pretty good. It certainly wasn't 100/0/0 stunning/fuckable/reject, but maybe 30/40/30. And it only takes one girl (at a time) to make ole' Pizdyets happy!

I'm one of those unlucky ones that does a Businezz Visa every 3 months, I have two main choices, Fast and expensive, or slow and cheap.

The Visa Invite letter can be done at many places (visatorussia.com) and, time managed, you'll get it 2 weeks before you need it for $80. Then its either a $1200 flight to San Fransisco, where they'll do the visa in one day for $300,

or, if you like the Nordic beauties too, pop up for a stay for 5-10 days (dependant on your country of origin and country you apply in) and rustle up some blonde viking Valkyries for a few days.

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As for 911, I dated one of the bartenders, she had a great set of norks ready for the world to see, yet insisted on keeping them packaged for the first 3 dates.. But she did reveal that given the right loooking gentleman, and the right cash, she might have crossed the line.

I'm under the opinion, they choose to put the hotties on as bar-staff and hostess, so you'll want them more and pay them more.. but thats just too western thinking surely.

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]If you don't have any business in Russia, how do you get a business visa?[/QUOTE]It doesn't have to be your own business, seems any business can invite you. A number of web sites even sell the invitations just like the tourist invitations, so no problem.

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What struck me last time I went (back in early May with Bez) was the increased number of Asians.

Half the girls seemed to be from the 'stans.

Still, I'd say that most of them looked pretty good.

It certainly wasn't 100/0/0 stunning/fuckable/reject, but maybe 30/40/30.

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Hey I know you had a few Warsteiners, but 30% stunners at HD on THAT night?

I don't even remember seeing one!

I was plenty tired, but 100% sober.

The one table of four Kyrgizzy tarts we watched were obviously not working and thus ignoring every guy, which is why I was interested, as I always prefer the least eager types as a personal challenge. :D

But my sluts radar was seeing about 0/15/85, as they were all looking +21 years with plenty of mileage. I don't recall seeing even 1 amateur younger student-type 18-19 years, though I wasn't scouring the place, or even wearing contacts so I could see clearly. So maybe I shouldn't say anything, but the parade of tramps and skanks that kept trying to sell themselves to me were all rejects, compared to many of the tasty treats I was spoiled by in the provinces. Really more of just a different 'flavor', and there's nothing wrong there, just not my taste. I still wish we would have tochka'd it up that night, and will insist on that next time. :p

It would be so fucking boring if we all wanted the same thing, you know?

I know that sounds very arrogant and conceited, I'll just have to live with it. I certainly appreciated the effort that Piz made to show me the ropes, that was real ISG class.

What a monger!

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Hey I know you had a few Warsteiners, but 30% stunners at HD on THAT night?

I don't even remember seeing one!

I was plenty tired, but 100% sober.

The one table of four Kyrgizzy tarts we watched were obviously not working and thus ignoring every guy, which is why I was interested, as I always prefer the least eager types as a personal challenge. :D

But my sluts radar was seeing about 0/15/85, as they were all looking +21 years with plenty of mileage. I don't recall seeing even 1 amateur younger student-type 18-19 years, though I wasn't scouring the place, or even wearing contacts so I could see clearly. So maybe I shouldn't say anything, but the parade of tramps and skanks that kept trying to sell themselves to me were all rejects, compared to many of the tasty treats I was spoiled by in the provinces. Really more of just a different 'flavor', and there's nothing wrong there, just not my taste. I still wish we would have tochka'd it up that night, and will insist on that next time. :p

It would be so fucking boring if we all wanted the same thing, you know?

I know that sounds very arrogant and conceited, I'll just have to live with it. I certainly appreciated the effort that Piz made to show me the ropes, that was real ISG class.

What a monger![/QUOTE]

Not HD. I was referring to NF. And I think you'll admit there were some hotties there that night. Unlike HD, which as you pointed out was undeniably dismal...

It's sad that a city of over 15M has only 2 hooker bars, and both suck - and not in the BBBJCIMYUMYUM way.

[QUOTE=Scoubidou]Korston (Kossyguine Street) is very girls frindly hotel.

Before it name was ORLYONOK (this is what taxi drivers know.)

There are a lot of girls after 21:00 inside because first floor is a big casino (Casino de Paris and VIP Club Napoleon) and there is 911 erotic club (expensible).

I use this hotel when I'm in MOCKBA since 2000, never get a problem to bring back a girl.

Girls at hotel is equivalent of 100..EUR/one hour. One shot.[/QUOTE]


I visited Korston recently. The cost is 200$ for one hour one shot. But I negotiated to $200 for two shots and flexible time limit. No problem going to the room. You use your room card to open the corridor door and nobody is checking. There are 8-10 girls near the bar after 10.30 (pm). I picked two young great looking girls on two different nights (Olena and Larisa). One told me she was a student. The service was great on both occasions. In fact the second time I made the mistake of leaving the money on the table and she grabbed them very quickly. I thought she will do a lousy service afterwards but I was mistaken. I think she stayed for almost two hours. Of course she cleaned the mini bar :) I recommend this hotel very highly. There is also a very nice Casino (where I won $600 playing blackjack). I did not try the nightclub (911) because I was satisfied with the quality of the girls at the bar. There were 2-3 other girls I wanted to do but run out of time!

I had a great 'romp in the hay' this afternoon with a skinny, big-titted, cute and young Ukrainian girl (from Lugansk) for a mere $80 (yes, US dollars). How can you duplicate this? Well, how about paying me for services? :) Or, you can just read for yourself on sextalk.ru. They have everything there that you could ever wish for when it comes to p4p in Moscow. But you need to be able to read Russian (and not just textbook Russian, but slang as well).

P,

Was this a girl you saw reviewed in КЛС?

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Was this a girl you saw reviewed in КЛС?[/QUOTE]

Here's what I did:
1) Used intimcity.ru to search what I wanted, where, and for how much (they seem to have a good selection compared to the other popular internet sites)
2) Using the phone number for the girl, search for reviews on sextalk.ru, rusdosug, etc...
3) Read her reviews and/or reviews of the salon in which she works
4) Call the number, ensure the girl I want is working, get the 'coordinates' and go there!

It took maybe 45 minutes, and was it worth it! But I'll admit that reading КЛС (Клуб Любителей Секса - Sex Lovers' Club) is a challenge even for me. The majority of the guys there are Russian and want to 'strut their stuff' when it comes to writing - either by using 'street talk' or by rising above that and using literary language. The rare review I see from a foreigner is usually mocked unless the guy has some mad skilz in Russian (unlike here where English is primarily a lingua franca).

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Here's what I did:

Used intimcity.ru to search how much for the salon

Call the number, ensure the girl I want is working

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You been there all this time and JUST found this now?

Or this is what you always did?

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]You been there all this time and JUST found this now?

Or this is what you always did?[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I'd usually go for the "known" places which charge from $125 to $145 an hour: Charmel, Fantasy's, ElitTV. The selection is always good, no matter what hour you show up, they're centrally located, the rooms are top-notch and the service is as well.

Bezzie... you well know I have cash, but somehow I don't always want to spend it (I must lack that Novy Russky gene!) So this time I looked for a "budgetny variant" and found that it was not all that different from what I'd been spending much more on.

I've also done research on the 2000/chasik ($65/hr) and 1500/chasik ($50/hr) level, but was afraid of venturing down that low and encountering a room full of "goblins". Still, given how much discussion has been made on the upper limit for p4p (ie NightFlight), it'd make for an interesting exercise to explore the lower limit for a satisfactory p4p experience in Moscow.

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I usually go for $125 to $145 an hour, selection always good.

So this time I looked for a budget and found that it was not all that different.

I've also done research on $65/hr and $50/hr level, but was afraid of encountering goblins.

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If the fotos have always shown what you're gonna get, why would you be worried?

Other than how nice the salon is, that is, upscale establishment in the center vs. dumpy flophouse in questionable neighborhood?