Yes, yes, I posted on the Cabarete thread as well.
Can anyone provide a review of this place, quality of food / drink, etc?
Gracias.
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Yes, yes, I posted on the Cabarete thread as well.
Can anyone provide a review of this place, quality of food / drink, etc?
Gracias.
[QUOTE=DCups;2231585]Hello WRX,
The first statement fits me to a tee. I plan on retiring in Philippines in 2002 - 3. Maybe have a live-in there / maybe not. But I still want to come to DR at least once a year to enjoy the busty young beauties there. At least that's my plan for now. I have no desire to retire in California where I live. Too damned expensive. Florida? I dunno. If I'm going to suffer in the heat and hurricanes there I might as well go to the tropics and live out my years in the upper class surrounded by young honeys. Cheers.[/QUOTE]You have the Burger King plan. You are going to build that Whopper of a retirement / lifestyle, and HAVE IT YOUR WAY.
[QUOTE=DCups;2231911]Correction: 2022- 3. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yes, I knew what you meant.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2231596]Your summary was on point.
I think a good policy to have for any expat is to live their life the way they see fit. And others will do the same. Lastly, for enough expats, women are so plentiful and available in the DR, that they don't have to be a mans main pursuit and concern. The part of getting juice cheap or otherwise has been solved. The best thing about being an expat in the DR, is the ability to live a lifestyle that is healthy, affordable, laid back, free of the obligations and stress from ones own home country. Free to live comfortably without having to apologize for it or live up to the expectations of folks from where you come from. In other words, there may be a lot more an expat may be paying attention to that is just as important to him in the long run, than interacting with women for cheap sex or relationships."
I love that last sentence.
Basically I was letting Oakie know how I appreciate his development and I'm on the same page. No need to over analyze this. If an expat is happy banging cheap girls only it has no effect on me. Comparing how we operate in the States to how we operate here never plays into my thinking here. If a person changes his mind later never plays into how we feel now etc. To each his own, and you are correct mostly.[/QUOTE]Just got to be careful in assigning other expats actions and behaviors, from our own perspective and not theirs. Because ours might not be accurate or complete. And I'm referring to the part where you said you see many expats that "[B]cant escape[/B] the lure of cheap sex with gorgeous young women, and that they realize over time that they [B]never experienced growth from the game and are still on the merry go round[/B]. You get what you give.
The point / points I was making was, that we all need to be careful when making assessments of others motivation and state of growth or lack thereof. Why? Because one may have it all wrong. And more importantly, one may change modes himself, to get back on the merry go round, going after cheap sex. Would anyone want to accept that their choice to do that is simply because they never experienced growth or because they couldn't escape the lure of cheap sex? Of course not. They may want their exact reasons to be considered and understood. After all, its not a question of if a man will revert back to the familiar, it's more about when.
You do acknowledge the part about "To each his own". That every man has a choice to live his life the way he sees fit. You got that and respect that. But to go one step further is for all of us to try to understand that making assessments of others that may not be true / applicable or incomplete is not a good practice. Were all entitled to our own opinion about others and what we see, but our opinions dont necessarily mean they are the facts for others.
For instance, I believe its bad practice, for the detached men not looking for a meaningful bond (with women) to go around assessing that guys that do can't escape being a Cap and Saver / H, and are still attached to the Matrix mindset from where they come from. Yeah, I may acknowledge that every man has a choice, etc etc etc. But if my assessment is wrong and / or incomplete, about why they do what they do, then I don't really fully grasp / understand their choice. Because I assigned to them what I think their reasons / choices are, not understood it from their perspective. My opinion may not jive with the facts. Thats it in a nutshell.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2232267]Just got to be careful in assigning other expats actions and behaviors, from our own perspective and not theirs. Because ours might not be accurate or complete. And I'm referring to the part where you said you see many expats that "[B]cant escape[/B] the lure of cheap sex with gorgeous young women, and that they realize over time that they [B]never experienced growth from the game and are still on the merry go round[/B]. You get what you give.
The point / points I was making was, that we all need to be careful when making assessments of others motivation and state of growth or lack thereof. Why? Because one may have it all wrong. And more importantly, one may change modes himself, to get back on the merry go round, going after cheap sex. Would anyone want to accept that their choice to do that is simply because they never experienced growth or because they couldn't escape the lure of cheap sex? Of course not. They may want their exact reasons to be considered and understood. After all, its not a question of if a man will revert back to the familiar, it's more about when.
You do acknowledge the part about "To each his own". That every man has a choice to live his life the way he sees fit. You got that and respect that. But to go one step further is for all of us to try to understand that making assessments of others that may not be true / applicable or incomplete is not a good practice. Were all entitled to our own opinion about others and what we see, but our opinions dont necessarily mean they are the facts for others.
For instance, I believe its bad practice, for the detached men not looking for a meaningful bond (with women) to go around assessing that guys that do can't escape being a Cap and Saver / H, and are still attached to the Matrix mindset from where they come from. Yeah, I may acknowledge that every man has a choice, etc etc etc. But if my assessment is wrong and / or incomplete, about why they do what they do, then I don't really fully grasp / understand their choice. Because I assigned to them what I think their reasons / choices are, not understood it from their perspective. My opinion may not jive with the facts. Thats it in a nutshell.[/QUOTE]Actually, to put it in a nutshell, you could just have said [RED]Different [BLUE]strokes [/BLUE] for different folks[/RED].
[QUOTE=Frannie;2232344]Actually, to put it in a nutshell, you could just have said [RED]Different [BLUE]strokes [/BLUE] for different folks[/RED].[/QUOTE]Bang on Frannie!
These regular long drawn out analyses become circulatory, not to mention boring, after a while.
It's all been said before, and can be reduced to a couple of concepts:
To each his own.
One size doesn't fit all.
Live and let live.
Don't be judgmental.
Oh, and just tell us your own first hand experiences!
We will decide whether it works for our own needs and our own budgets!
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2232267]The point / points I was making was, that we all need to be careful when making assessments of others motivation and state of growth or lack thereof. Why? Because one may have it all wrong. And more importantly, one may change modes himself, to get back on the merry go round, going after cheap sex. Would anyone want to accept that their choice to do that is simply because they never experienced growth or because they couldn't escape the lure of cheap sex? Of course not. They may want their exact reasons to be considered and understood. After all, its not a question of if a man will revert back to the familiar, it's more about when.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a guy I know. He lived in DR for 7 years then moved to the Philippines. He made 3 videos totalling about an hour telling guys to only mess with Dominican chicks with the mindset of P4P. He said they are nothing more than that.
It was really shocking that he could live there 7 years and think of all Dominican chicks as only hookers and that they should be treated as such. Everyone argued with him but he stuck to what he was saying. Two weeks later he left everyone scratching their heads when he MARRIED a known Filipina hooker; I mean the chick is actually employed at a hooker bar. If there ever was a case of do as I say, not as I do (or reverting back), then this was it. Word was that some Dominican hooker broke his heart so he now has a vendetta against Dominican women period.
I'm heading to Sosua in a month. Getting excited about my upcoming trip and been reading the forum. Thanks to all the posters. I'm heading down solo for 10 days, staying at Casa Valeria. I plan to bring my golf clubs. Is the course at Playa Dorada OK? I'm hoping to hear that it is, because I'd like to play a few rounds. From what I've read- not a good idea for me to rent a car for the week. I think I'll get a driver to take me there and back. Anyone have any experiences they can share? I'll be there from 11/2 to 11/11. Anyone want to golf? Thanks.
I have a friend on the ground in Sosua. He is multi time visitor. He is currently on the ground having a good time. My buddy always rents a car. He picked up a friend at the airport at about 8 pm. On the way back to Sousua he was pulled over my the policia. They demanded to see their car first aid kit and fire extinguer. Apparently the is now a requirement for DR vehicles They requested that my friend follow them to La Vega police station. The girl in the car acted as translator and took pictures of their police bikes. After 30 minutes and a 20 dollar bribe they were allowed to go. If you are driving be aware of the potential scam.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2233621]On the way back to Sousua he was pulled over my the policia. They demanded to see their car first aid kit and fire extinguer. Apparently the is now a requirement for DR vehicles They requested that my friend follow them to La Vega police station. The girl in the car acted as translator [/QUOTE]Tell your friend that the first rule is not to have anyone translating for him. If the police don't understand him or he does not understand them then it is their problem. They will get frustrated and finally send him on his way.
Second, he needs to learn the Spanish word for embassy. I have been pulled over at least 25 times over the years and have never given them 1 peso. Like I said before, they see the sticker from the rental car agency and pull you over to scare you. Don't fall for that shit.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2233621]I have a friend on the ground in Sosua. He is multi time visitor. He is currently on the ground having a good time. My buddy always rents a car. He picked up a friend at the airport at about 8 pm. On the way back to Sousua he was pulled over my the policia. They demanded to see their car first aid kit and fire extinguer. Apparently the is now a requirement for DR vehicles They requested that my friend follow them to La Vega police station. The girl in the car acted as translator and took pictures of their police bikes. After 30 minutes and a 20 dollar bribe they were allowed to go. If you are driving be aware of the potential scam.[/QUOTE]Everybody should be aware of that common scam. The other part of that is some moto guy claiming injury at an intersection bringing cops on the scene, with all that entails.
To me, in a third world country, risk aversion is important. I never rented a car there in 10 years, but once living here, I was tempted by the potential convenience. I found it is not necessary, first I live roughly in the middle of where I want to be most of the time, cheap short hop public transport is usually available, and with the rental / car purchase money I save, I can get a local driver to take me anywhere and, just as importantly, pick me up.
Add a regular GFE (translator LOL) and she always knows somebody who can get a car cheap at short notice for extended trips anywhere on the island. I'm always in cars, but you'll rarely find me in taxi. I get to Constambar, the other side of PP all the time in a "taxi" for DR1000, when the regular taxi fare from Sosua is $50+ U.S.
My 2 cents!
I do not fuc with people with guns or badges. I have never been stopped by police in 8 years for anything. Catch one of these guys on a bad day and you can be in a world of hurt. Some of these guys make up their own rules. Combine this with their drinking things can go south. My friend left 20 dollars light and half an hour of his time. While you are a legend in your own mind I would not walk your path pimp daddy. Fighting with police is a losing battle.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2233625]Tell your friend that the first rule is not to have anyone translating for him. If the police don't understand him or he does not understand them then it is their problem. They will get frustrated and finally send him on his way.
Second, he needs to learn the Spanish word for embassy. I have been pulled over at least 25 times over the years and have never given them 1 peso. Like I said before, they see the sticker from the rental car agency and pull you over to scare you. Don't fall for that shit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2233831]I do not fuc with people with guns or badges. I have never been stopped by police in 8 years for anything. Catch one of these guys on a bad day and you can be in a world of hurt. Some of these guys make up their own rules. Combine this with their drinking things can go south. My friend left 20 dollars light and half an hour of his time. While you are a legend in your own mind I would not walk your path pimp daddy. Fighting with police is a losing battle.[/QUOTE]To each his own, OldK.
Just about all the ex pats I know down here drive. Especially the ones that have businesses here. They treat the local cops like parking ticket meter maids and they all know each other. A little propina is expected and exchanged and all is well! They might even look after your ass, down the road. It's just a game.
They are always complaining about repair shop and rental agency scams, but they are in their business mode, so they accept all this stuff that we have to back home.
You a vacationer and me a retiree avoid a lot of the normal routine stuff we have left behind, so we just listen to their stories and smile!
I can't complain too much because they do give me a lot of free rides to Cab, PP or the airport! A good friend, a younger guy, seems to enjoy the game, and when he's had a few beers, a night in the local slammer is no big deal!
Different strokes!
[QUOTE=OldKool;2233831]I do not fuc with people with guns or badges. I have never been stopped by police in 8 years for anything. Catch one of these guys on a bad day and you can be in a world of hurt. Some of these guys make up their own rules. Combine this with their drinking things can go south. My friend left 20 dollars light and half an hour of his time. While you are a legend in your own mind I would not walk your path pimp daddy. Fighting with police is a losing battle.[/QUOTE]If you own or rent a car here the best 50 bucks you could ever spend is on a dash cam, it will save your ass in an accident and when you get pulled over for a money grab just wait until the cop approaches the window and then point the dash cam in his direction, it is important that he sees you moving the cam in his direction, he will beat feet immediately every time.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2233850]If you own or rent a car here the best 50 bucks you could ever spend is on a dash cam, it will save your ass in an accident and when you get pulled over for a money grab just wait until the cop approaches the window and then point the dash cam in his direction, it is important that he sees you moving the cam in his direction, he will beat feet immediately every time.[/QUOTE]Also, NEVER ever speak even a single word of spanish to a cop that has pulled you over for no reason, not even a "hola". Between the dash cam and not speaking spanish you will be on your way in no time.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2233831]I do not fuc with people with guns or badges. I have never been stopped by police in 8 years for anything. Catch one of these guys on a bad day and you can be in a world of hurt. Some of these guys make up their own rules. Combine this with their drinking things can go south. My friend left 20 dollars light and half an hour of his time. While you are a legend in your own mind I would not walk your path pimp daddy. Fighting with police is a losing battle.[/QUOTE]And how is it fucking with someone by not speaking a language that you don't speak and not paying for a crime that you did not commit? But I understand that some have no problem rolling over and being ripped off by the police, girls, or whoever else comes a knocking.
Speaking of a language that you do not speak, a buddy that used to live in Sosua told me a story of a guy from England that came down. He met this chick and was very happy with her. So happy that he left his wife and kids back home high and dry and moved to DR.
He planned on marrying the chick that he had met. For some reason he could not get a bank account on his own, so he had to get one with her. He deposited all his money into it. This guy had it made. They bought a nice house together. The girl's cousin drove him everywhere he needed to go.
Finally came the day of the big wedding. Mr. England, not knowing Spanish, signed on the witness line while the "cousin" signed on the groom line. It was his turn to be left high and dry.