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[QUOTE=MrClen;2452136]It never ceases to amaze me how cheap some of the posters are. $10! If you thought she was any good, just send it and tell her is is a down payment for when she get there. As as old guy, I don't try to bargain for the cheapest piece of tail I can find and pay for good service.[/QUOTE]Not trying to bargain for cheaper price and paying for good service is something I can empathize with.
Howeve, that has little to do with the situation described, which is the kind of thinking that sees the Brooklyn bridge being sold to somebody, generation after generation.
The rule is quite simple. The big head should always prevail over the little head. If not, go for it if you like, but please don't fuss when the inevitable happens.
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[QUOTE=MrClen;2452138]As as old guy, I don't try to bargain for the cheapest piece of tail I can find and pay for good service.[/QUOTE]How would you know if it was good service before you have had it?
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2452149]Rule # 1: Never pay a FL in advance for anything.
And that includes bus fare, trike fare, anything fare. You tell the girl, "yeah of course, I will give you Money for taxi after we done and before you leave (my place)". And that's that and If said girl does not like that arrangement then politely tell her, "so sorry / maybe I see you next time" and go dial up the next girl. It is that simple. I don't know why some guys look for rotten fruit in the land of sweet mangoes.
Wait, I take that back slightly. I have on very rare occasions come down from my hotel room to pay off a taxi driver when my FL date convinced me she absolutely did not have enough Pesos to cover the taxi fare. And guess what country that was in? LOL. The one and only Philippine Islands. But I repeat the underlying fundamental rule; never send money to a girl you do not know.
Rule # 2: Never pay in advance for sex. Unless it is the standard operating procedure of the oily, soapy, or we are a talking about a Go Go barfine and just the barfine and drink tab. If the Go Go girl or mamasan insists on full pre-payment, walk away.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with this. The only comment I would add is to bear in mind the usual approach in those dating site "send/transfer travel money to me and I will come to stay with you" scams is they don't charactrrize themselves as freelancers. No, they cast themselves as just innocent, ordinary Thai farm girls with no travel money, stuck in their boring, poverty-ridden province, desperate to find true love and sex instructions in the exciting city of wherever you live.
Oh, and I would say I have had a few pretty good sessions with girls I'd only met online who indeed did show up as planned by taxi and then I paid their 200 baht or so taxi fare to the taxi driver on arrival. In Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2452257]Absolutely agree with this. The only comment I would add is to bear in mind the usual approach in those dating site "send/transfer travel money to me and I will come to stay with you" scams is they don't charactrrize themselves as freelancers. No, they cast themselves as just innocent, ordinary Thai farm girls with no travel money, stuck in their boring, poverty-ridden province, desperate to find true love and sex instructions in the exciting city of wherever you live.
Oh, and I would say I have had a few pretty good sessions with girls I'd only met online who indeed did show up as planned by taxi and then I paid their 200 baht or so taxi fare to the taxi driver on arrival. In Bangkok.[/QUOTE]A con is a straight up never see your money again.
I wouldn't put girls asking for bus fare in that category. Of course it can be a scam and I have no idea what the breakdown of it is or it isn't is.
So I would be in the camp that says because it is a pittance send the 300 baht if you feel she is on the up and up and you really want to meet her but be aware the odds are probably against you that she will be on the bus. This changes when the ask is north of 500 baht.
When I play roulette I usually stick to red or black but occasionally I try to hit a number. You have a 3% chance but when it comes home it's s buzz. Who knows what experience you may have missed by not sending that 300 baht.
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Wisdom.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2452251]How would you know if it was good service before you have had it?[/QUOTE]Old guys just know stuff like this.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2452257]girls I'd only met online who indeed did show up as planned by taxi and then I paid their 200 baht or so taxi fare to the taxi driver on arrival. In Bangkok.[/QUOTE]In this case, the girl is already in front of you. Covering her transportation expenses at that point is only fair, regardless of what happens afterwards. This is vastly different than wiring money to someone unknown who may or may not decide to come.
Asking money for "travel expenses" is either a scam or an indicator of extreme insecurity and mistrust, which does not bode well for the session. If someone can't scrounge up 200 baht for the bus in pursuit of an almost certain 2000++ baht payout, their life must be seriously messed up. Now, if she's flying down from Chiang Rai, I might buy her a ticket, but that's different.
Wiring a girl you never met money for "travel expenses" is like one of those claw machines in arcades -- looks like you can win, but they're designed to make you lose without anything in return.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2452251]How would you know if it was good service before you have had it?[/QUOTE]You have mixed up the two markets. First up was grabbing a girl, no questions asked then paying what's fair in the morning. Now its pre negotiate the deal to ensure everyone is happy then leave. These are two different players and markets.
Guy1 is a long term resident whose face is known around town. Bar staff and girls have seen him many times and may even know him by name. The girls know that he knows how the game is played. He's known as frugal but will pay up and not be a hassle. He knows how much he is paying and the girls know how much they are getting even without discussing it beforehand.
Guy2 is new or has been in town once or twice. He has read up or spoken to friends about prices but isn't 100% sure on which places or girls are charging above or below standard rates. He's still got that deer in the headlights look. Girls haven't seen him before and don't know how he acts or pays. He too isn't sure if the girl is level headed or going to try and milk him by over charging so he prenegotiates the fees and services. She probably adds a tourist tax but he doesn't mind because he knows (as much as possible) what has getting.
Cheers. G.
Both go home with a girl and are happy in the morning.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2452312]Who knows what experience you may have missed by not sending that 300 baht.[/QUOTE]Yep. But the odds were 2 to 1 that it would have been a bad experience. 1. She may have received the money and never come. Bad experience. 2. She may have received the money and come and I had a horrible time with her. Bad experience. 3. She may have received the money and come and I had a blast with her. Good experience.
Remember we are talking about Pattaya here, not Bumfuck, Alaska. There is absolutely no reason to send a chick on the other side of Thailand money to come here when there are already tons of other chicks here to have a good experience with. But if she is willing to hobble into town on her own volition, only then is it a risk that I am willing to take. At least then it increases my chances of having a good experience to 1 to 1.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2452312]So I would be in the camp that says because it is a pittance send the 300 baht if you feel she is on the up and up and you really want to meet her but be aware the odds are probably against you that she will be on the bus. [/QUOTE]You are right when you say the odds are against it. How many guys would send 300 baht to 1 chick in hopes that she would be on the bus? Now all things being equal except for their date of arrival, how many guys would send 300 baht to 100 chicks at the same time in hopes that they would be on the bus? Probably none. Why would you send it to 1 but not send it to 100, so you could have 100 great times?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2452452]If someone can't scrounge up 200 baht for the bus...
Wiring a girl you never met money for "travel expenses" is like one of those claw machines in arcades -- looks like you can win, but they're designed to make you lose without anything in return.[/QUOTE]LOL. I can't stop laughing from that shit. Back in January I was taking a trip to an island with a chick in Colombia that I had never met. I bought her plane ticket. I bought her a swimsuit and sandals off Amazon because she did not have those things either. Do you know she had the nerve to ask me to send her money to get from her house to the airport? She had me fucked up.
If someone is taking you on a dream vacation and your ass does not even have the will to borrow the money (that I am going to give you to pay them back) to get to the airport then you don't deserve to go. Hell, I would WALK to the airport if someone was paying for my damn trip. She ended up borrowing the money, otherwise it would have been wasted money on my part and I would have been on the island alone jacking my dick, because sending money is where I draw the line.
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If someone is taking you on a dream vacation and your ass does not even have the will to borrow the money (that I am going to give you to pay them back) to get to the airport then you don't deserve to go. Hell, I would WALK to the airport if someone was paying for my damn trip. She ended up borrowing the money, otherwise it would have been wasted money on my part and I would have been on the island alone jacking my dick, because sending money is where I draw the line.[/QUOTE]Even more ridiculous is many provinces around Thailand, including Bangkok, have those white minivans that they can catch at designated stops in their neighborhood and shuttle to the nearest airport for 20-30 baht. These girls have all kinds of options to get food and transportation for practically no money at all.
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[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2452171]Topics regarding prostitoots. There really isn't any thing other than price that interest people.
Czar is right. A ten is a 10. A one is a 1. A 4. 66778 is a 4. 6678.
What say you.
700 baht girl is a 700 baht girl.
Got milk.[/QUOTE]Try not to hurt yourself here, if I pay a hooker 700 thb for BBFS PSE for overnite and you pay the same hooker 3000 thb for condom sex for 3 minutes.
Tell me what she is?
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Is anyone tired of having to sign in and out everywhere you go yet!
Today, I needed to run to Thai Wasadu Jomtien to get a case of recess lighting on sale thereafter decide to head down to Jomtien Beach to check out a number of Condos never got to finish due to the lockdown. Just a few months ago one particular place I couldn't even get in to take a look since the place was full today the manager showed me a number of units said the place is near empty only the Farangs left who own their units. Months back I was told 7000 baht a month today it was like up to you look when I ask how much to buy again it was like up to you. I was a bit surprised looking from the outside but I was impressed by the inside I don't think there is any hurry will wait and come back in a few months and tempt a Thai owner with a cash offer.
After headed off to Big see Extra, to use the ATM and get a few Subway sandwiches for the family, next thing I know someone is calling me? The person had a mask on but was wearing one of those green Grab jackets thinking who the hell could this be I don't like surprises. When the mask came off it was the girl who I met just before the shutdown at her GoGo and hook up a few times after. I decided to buy her lunch at Black Canyon and have a cup of coffee to catch up with her she said she is doing good and able to make some money to tie her over meantime I got her schedule and said when I have some free time we can hook up?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2452563]Yep. But the odds were 2 to 1 that it would have been a bad experience. 1. She may have received the money and never come. Bad experience. 2. She may have received the money and come and I had a horrible time with her. Bad experience. 3. She may have received the money and come and I had a blast with her. Good experience.
Remember we are talking about Pattaya here, not Bumfuck, Alaska. There is absolutely no reason to send a chick on the other side of Thailand money to come here when there are already tons of other chicks here to have a good experience with. But if she is willing to hobble into town on her own volition, only then is it a risk that I am willing to take. At least then it increases my chances of having a good experience to 1 to 1.
You are right when you say the odds are against it. How many guys would send 300 baht to 1 chick in hopes that she would be on the bus? Now all things being equal except for their date of arrival, how many guys would send 300 baht to 100 chicks at the same time in hopes that they would be on the bus? Probably none. Why would you send it to 1 but not send it to 100, so you could have 100 great times?
LOL. I can't stop laughing from that shit. Back in January I was taking a trip to an island with a chick in Colombia that I had never met. I bought her plane ticket. I bought her a swimsuit and sandals off Amazon because she did not have those things either. Do you know she had the nerve to ask me to send her money to get from her house to the airport? She had me fucked up..[/QUOTE]I was instancing the guy who hooks up with somebody on line he likes, video chats for a while and wants to meet up. She agrees but says she hasn't got the fare. What does he do. Assume its a a con and check out or putt 300 on a 3 to 1 shot and send her the fare. You say never, I say why not.
Plane ticket swimsuit and sandals I hope it was result no 3 when you met.
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[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2452574]Try not to hurt yourself here, if I pay a hooker 700 thb for BBFS PSE for overnite and you pay the same hooker 3000 thb for condom sex for 3 minutes.
Tell me what she is?[/QUOTE]As with any purchase, the fair price is the price you are willing to pay for her. Whatever the reasons.
Maybe I'll pay 3000 for a girl you wouldn't give 700 to.
And reciprocally.
And the next day it will be the opposite.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2452611]Is anyone tired of having to sign in and out everywhere you go yet![/QUOTE]Wonder if you'll be tracked once the bars reopen. I just imagine an Immigration Officer questioning me "Why you go to 10 gogo bars every night, Khun BB?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2452875]Wonder if you'll be tracked once the bars reopen. I just imagine an Immigration Officer questioning me "Why you go to 10 gogo bars every night, Khun BB?[/QUOTE]In Bangkok, some of the mall staff are already cutting corners and waving people through without them touching every base to get in or out.
A couple of times already I have spent 2-3 seconds pretending to catch the QR code, tapping in and all that but then I just showed them the green CHECK IN result from a previous mall entry. See, I'd taken a screenshot of that first one and just kept showing that same screenshot at every mall and shop I went into after that. Same with the CHECK OUT image and that thing you tap at the bottom of the page.
Should they require the same CHECK IN and CHECK OUT procedure by then, I'm guessing it will be possible to do that in and out of every bar after about the 4th night.