Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1654333]Thanks for bringing some clarity to all this with actual facts. Something I have few of I admit! Have you read anything about why this is occurring? It is a general trend in most of the developed world but a 30% drop in a decade sounds extreme. Has the economic progress in the past decade changed that with women entering the work force in such greater numbers?

Now to get back to my factless based observations. I sometimes wonder how Thailand has any births with the number of gays, ladyboys, Toms and Dees that I see around Bangkok. I can't go into a retail store without being served by a gay man. I can't go into a fastfood restaurant without seeing a burgeoning ladyboy. Tom and Dees are everywhere and over the past couple of years I have been surprised to find out how many working girls have a Tom looking out for them and just like Thai men smacking them around and taking their money. Of course Bangkok is likely a magnet with people of those sexual predilections but I come from NYC and the numbers here amaze me. And their openness amazes me even more but good for them.[/QUOTE]There is a great Ted talk on population and development- Hans Rosling: Religions and Babies. Check it out. Dude is a demographic specialist. Very interesting. Goes into development, population, and peak population.

Yes, it is amazing how many categories of "sexuality" there are in BKK. Toms, Dees, Bis, Gays, Ladyboys, etc. While yes it is very open in a way, it is also true that each category tends to have rigid rules of behavior that are quite strictly adhered to. I read an article once by a Western lesbian who was working in BKK. She had become quite frustrated at the fact that here she was supposed to be either a "Tom" or a "Dee. " Hence a woman who enjoys both giving and receiving is kind of out of luck.

In my opinion, the Coyote girls in Soi cowboy are more like ordinary bargirls, who dress differently and have a higher price, generalising just a bit. LOL.

Firstly I have entered a couple of places, and most of them either cannot dance properly, or are too lazy to do so. This is simple to most gogo girls.

90% of them are just slightly above average looks for bargirls, perhaps not too many fatties. The girls in Crazy House are superior to midnight girls overall on a Saturday night, perhaps not every night. A very small percentage of the Coyotes are really stunning in Cowboy.
The following stickman report shows a pic of a very ordinary Coyote:
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/coyote-dancers.htm[/url]

Coyote girls in Soi Cowboy are bar finable in most bars for a heavy price. You can take them out to dinner and disco for a high price. Sex may or may not be available. I have fucked a girl from Dollhouse who dresses and dances like a Coyote, not naked.

In Midnite, a Coyote girl took her bars off and danced topless presumably for a good tip. This is not what real Coyotes do.

So all up, I think the majority of Coyotes in Cowboy are just overpriced fakes.

[QUOTE=RangeLove;1654198]Back from 1 week Bangkok.

All the other girls did. I can't remember all the names of the girls I had but number 3 and 20 I remember as very good sessions and BB all the

They also never checked ID's what was good because Linda sometimes warned me a girl had no ID with her.

Other places I visited only 1 time because they were no match for Crazy House.

NEP. I go inside Rainbow 4 but girls too old and chubby for my taste. Then to Mandarin. Met a nice girl named Boum. Not a super face but great body, no kids.

Toke her LT and she was hot. She wanted to go in bad first and mounted my dick after a while bb.

Mixx and Fashion bar. Very beautiful Russian girls there. Models I guess. Mixx was almost empty.

Climax. Very crowded. Full of FL's, many of them very drunk. I only see few beautiful girls. Most in their 30's and probably with kids.

Nataree. Wanted to try out a soapy for the first time.

I went inside Nataree, VIP, Colonize and Emanuelle.

Colonize and Nataree had the most beautiful girls.

I ended up in Nataree. Inside I saw a nice girl sitting alone on the couch.

I choose her and turned out to be the most expensive girl 5000 B.

I wasn't so crazy about this whole soapy idea. The water in the tube was rather cold and the A/C blew full power.

I had very cold and my little friend also. I asked to turn off the A/C and a BBBJ brought my friend back to life.

The girl only spoke Thai but she was sweet. Also very tight and I blew up the condom again. She cried when she realized I blew my load deep into her pussy.

A bad day at the office I suppose.

Really nice girl.[/QUOTE]Another two week millionare kiddy fiddler.

Johnie.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1654438]There is a great Ted talk on population and development- Hans Rosling: Religions and Babies. Check it out. Dude is a demographic specialist. Very interesting. Goes into development, population, and peak population.
[/QUOTE]Good reminder GS.

I remember him as the designer of "Gapminder" which Google has now bought.

Here is the link:

[URL]http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_religions_and_babies[/URL]

I will repost in the Philippines thread too.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1654424]Great report and validation that this place is great. One good point about the Moma. I was talking to a hot 18 year old who agreed to go with me long term. After we agreed on the money she asked for a lady drink, which I had no problem with. After the drink she flipped me the bird and walked away. I motioned for the Moma to come over and I told her what hapenned. Within 5 minutes the girl was back and was ordered to pay for the lady drink. Then the Moma introduced me to a hot 23 year old who fucked my brains out, she even bought me a drink! Love this place![/QUOTE]Good on you. I wish more guys would not be afraid to do that. Most guys just blow it off. But if the girls get away with that type of shit, they will talk about it with other girls and it will only get worse. Job well done and you were rewarded too.

[QUOTE=Johnie;1654444]Another two week millionare kiddy fiddler.

Johnie.[/QUOTE]Rangelove had a very informative posting. Negative responses like yours turn a lot of guys off writing reports. Why can we not all have "only good energy".

Hi there.

We will stop by central Bangkok for couple nights in January.

Where one would look for young free-lancers or in-call girls. Quality is a must this time.

Please share your experience on pricing too. Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Johnie;1654444]Another two week millionare kiddy fiddler.

Johnie[/QUOTE]For a guy who is below 30 many of working girls could appear old while 80 year old monger would not mind 40+ sex worker.

However nothing in his post implied he was looking for underaged.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1654517]Rangelove had a very informative posting. Negative responses like yours turn a lot of guys off writing reports. Why can we not all have "only good energy".[/QUOTE]Taking girls back to your hotel without I'd is never a good idea. If the BIB arrive and she is too young, then its a trip to the monkey house. We should not encourage stupidity. That's why!

Also 5000 baht for a cold water soapy or a soapy at any temperature is too much, otherwise we will all end up paying these prices.

Johnie.

[QUOTE=Johnie;1654444]Another two week millionare kiddy fiddler.

Johnie.[/QUOTE]I agree 5000 bht is very high, but without looking back at previous posts, I think I recall they quote about 2200 to 4500 or so. When I was there last February that is about what the papasan quoted me. The big prices were for a few young ones, but I had a choice of 50 or more in the 2200 to 2500 range who IMHO were just as good looking as the big money ones. I think the premium was for the young ages, I drank a couple of beer at a table beside where the big money ones were sitting and in looks they had nothing on 2500 bht ones. I was there about 3 times over 3 weeks and would recommend. I liked the fact I could sit at a table and have several beer and check out the chicas. Papasan there is first class guy.

[QUOTE=RangeLove;1654198]Back from 1 week in Bangkok. I RTFF before I go and retreived some valuable tips. So time to give something back.

[/QUOTE]Great TR w / a lot of good intel on several venues. Thanks for taking the time to post.

[QUOTE=RangeLove;1654198]1 week in Bangkok. I RTFF and retreived some valuable tips. time to give something back.

Crazy House! OMG! Without any doubt the hottest place in BKK. All girls I had were good, non of them were really bad performers. After a while I started to be friend with the manager (Linda) and the owner of the place. She noticed I was not in BKK on a budget and started to point out for me her best girls and introducing me to her new arrives.

My hotel was Legacy Suites. I had a big room with little salon to chat up with the girls before hitting the bedroom.

NEP: Rainbow 4 girls too old and chubby for my taste. Mandarin met a nice girl named Boum.

Mixx and Fashion bar. Very beautiful Russian girls there. Models I guess. Mixx was almost empty.

Climax. Very crowded. Full of FL's, many of them very drunk. I only see few beautiful girls.

Colonize and Nataree had the most beautiful girls. I ended up in Nataree. I choose (a girl) and (she) turned out to be the most expensive girl 5000 B. The girl only spoke Thai but she was sweet. Also very tight and I blew up the condom again. She cried when she realized I blew my load deep into her pussy. A bad day at the office I suppose.

Soi 22 Pern Massage. Met up front nice girl, named So. She gave me a good massage and really excellent hand job! [/QUOTE]Great Field Report, RangeLove. Sounds like you had a really good time. All Soapies have girls in multiple price categories. It is called the free market. Sometimes I see very attractive girls in the fishbowl and other times I see hot hot girls on the sideline. It varies. Choose who you like.

[QUOTE=Johnie;1654444]Another two week millionare kiddy fiddler.

Johnie.[/QUOTE]I think you guys are missing the point of my original comment. Why would a large establishment like CH which already, allegedly, has form in providing girls of questionable age, be providing girls to.

RangeLove without I'd?. I agree, its a free world, but be very careful!

Johnie.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1654307]This point has been raised before & it was mentioned that the Thai birth rate has not been declining nearly so much in recent years & has remained rather constant of late. Where it will go in the future, whether higher or lower, is unknown.

To be brief, due to time restraints, I'd simply say it is not nearly so simple. There are many factors at play, not just economic & demographic. (Of the two, though, the poverty of third world rice growing Siam is much more sure to continue in the decades to come, not the declining birth rate.).

There is, for example, the law of supply & demand, with ever increasing numbers of tourists to LOS, which provides work for many Thai sex trade workers who are well past their prime. So they do not leave the profession or have been able to remain in it much longer than in the past.

In the 90's many were removed from the trade due to HIV. With modern meds & a far lower HIV rate in 2014, the rate of TG sex workers quiting due to HIV is far less.

Other factors that can effect the numbers of PFP gals working in Siam & their ratio to customers is what happens in the political arena, natural disasters & the prosperity or decline of its tourism industry, etc.

Issues in these areas have been quite regular & generally lead to the Kingdom becoming even more of a "prime mongering destination" quality wise during the period of time when they occur.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not sure where you're getting your facts, but please post them here. Here's a chart, readily available on the Internet, that is completely contrary to your assertion that the birth rate has remained constant.

[URL]http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=25&c=th&l=en[/URL]

As you can clearly see, it's been dropping steadily for the last decade.

Nobody said that sex workers wouldn't work longer. But, again, the fact is that they cannot work in this trade forever. When they retire there are fewer sex workers to replace them. This is indisputable.

As I said, when times get tough the percentage of women who opt for sex work probably increases. But that number is small in relation to the population as a whole. To deny that is to reveal that one knows nothing about women in general. Thailand may, or may not, have a higher percentage of the female population engaging in some form of prostitution. However, regardless of that percentage, I refuse to believe that a natural disaster or political problem sends zillions of women running for the nearest paying customer's bed. If you have some evidence to the contrary, I'm happy to be convinced otherwise.

I don't follow your argument that reduced numbers of girls and increased demand equals prime hobbying destination.

So, to summarize, there are fewer girls overall in the general population. Ipso facto, there will be fewer girls in the sex industry unless somebody has evidence that shows as the birth rate declines the percentage of females opting for sex work increases. As tourism increases there will inevitably be issues as demand outstrips supply. The scene has changed dramatically in the last 10 years. Given the above it will change even more dramatically in the next 10. There is no way Thailand will continue to be a "prime destination. " In fact, the argument can be made that it is no longer a prime destination, but that's for another thread and another day.

[QUOTE=RangeLove;1654198]
They also never checked ID's what was good because Linda sometimes warned me a girl had no ID with her.
[/QUOTE]Don't take this personally, it's your 7th posting and you may be a newb. But are you crazy??

This has to be one of the HUGEST red flags in the industry. A national I'd card is compulsory for all Thais. AFAIK a Thai national is supposed to have this on their person at all times.

When a girl tells you that she has no I'd it means one of two things. She's working illegally in Thailand or she's "younger than the statutory minimum age." (take that, Big Brother code editor!) You REALLY don't want to get mixed up in that.

The mama-sans who will do this are scum, IMO. Once I took a lady, from a beer bar on Loi Kroh, back to my hotel. She told me in the bar that she was 22 or 23 (I forget which). Upon undressing her body was absolutely not that of a 22-23 year old girl. I questioned her and she admitted that the mama-san told all the girls to tell customers that they were 23. Conveniently, she had no ID. She swore up and down that she was 19 but, lacking evidence, I refused to believe it.