Berlin

[QUOTE=Merkur;1162705]For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least)[/QUOTE]Currently the best place for erotic massage, according to the German forum is Roxanna's massgae.

[url]http://roxana.rotlichtmodelle.de/galery.html[/url]

There are just two (sometimes three) ladies working there so do not expect to just show up. Make an appointment. Both the ladies pictured get universally enthusiastic write ups and are very, very popular. Here you will not get sex or even a blow job but, if you play your cards right, you will get just about everything else erotic.

Roxannas's is very high on my list of must do's.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162735]Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus. I was going to give KD a go anyway (maybe Mercedes) so will call them when I get there.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1162576]Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :? [/QUOTE]Artemis gets a ++ from me.

I go there most weeks, so I'm a big fan. As Angus suggests, to get the greatest benefit from an FKK experience requires a certain amount of strategy, self-confidence (either innate or acquired through experience) and various inter-personal skills. But the advantages of being able to spend a little time with the girls before you go to the room with them affords one a huge advantage over the bordelle scene. In a bordelle, the time window you get to choose your girl is hardly sufficient to determine whether you like her, let alone whether she likes you. At Artemis you get a proper chance to find out whether you both 'click', although there is still no absolute certainty of course.

I strongly recommend that, if you are sexually inquisitive in any way, that you try Artemis one time. If it's not for you, then you will have blown a small 3-figure sum. If you fall in love with the place you will be delighted that you gave it a chance, and over the next few years you will have the opportunity to blow a substantial 5-figure sum.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Merkur; 1162705]Yes it was strange. Same thing always happens at Tiffany (I have to ask for the shower if I want one) I made a short visit to Tiffany bt the lineup was poor, like 3 girls, one who reminded me a bit of goofy, the cartoon character. (teeth and expression) I asked for Kelly bt she was booked for the day. Asked for Pia and the Hasmutti just locked at the clock in response. I said that I would come back some other time ("zürruckkommen") and got a bit rude response "und!" And then saying Kelly would still be busy and Pia not there. I thought to myself isn't it my business if I return later today hoping for a better parade or if I skip it to another day. I don't need to explain myself. I just said "jaja, andere Tag" before I was let out. Visited Tiffany quite a few times but most times with Pia. Though I feel the attitude from the management there is somehow lacking in friendlyness. Headed off to KD for a total different experience where I was warmly received, both by the lady of the house and the girls in the parade.

For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least) [/QUOTE]I've been there just one time, coincidentially also with Pia (who was pretty good). This bordelle is a bit of a factory in my mind, and the sort of experience that you recount is not of great surprise to me. I think the way to get the best out of Tiffany's is to call in advance, make a booking with a specific girl from whom you know exactly what you want, arrive punctually and expect a business-like encounter with both the SP and the ancillary staff. With that as your M. O, I believe that one can have a good time at Tiffany's. If you want to be romanced, try somewhere else (KD, Monrouge or Artemis for example)

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162735]Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM[/QUOTE]Spot on. I use the cheaper-end escort agencies semi-regularly and there are 5 or 6 that I have tried and found to be reliable and good value. You can search this thread and find my various reports if you wish.

German girls are in short supply via the agencies, especially at the lower end of the price spectrum. They won't work for those wages, and they don't need to give an agency the significant cut that the EE girls do.

You will find plenty of independents on the Berlin-intim website who are genuine German girls. I can't recommend any personally 'because I don't do independents. But your best bet would be to do as Angus suggests and call one of the established bordelles like KD or perhaps VK, and order a take-away.

Good luck,

Charlie.

P. S.. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine.

Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.[/url]

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them.

Anyone have any reviews on Kit Kat club or Insomnia, didn't find anything in the last 10 pages of this thread.

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1162845]Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the.

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.[/url]

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them.

Anyone have any reviews on Kit Kat club or Insomnia, didn't find anything in the last 10 pages of this thread. [/QUOTE]The King George is what it is. Not terrible but not great either. It is cheap and you will get laid there.

Try over in the party tref threads for material on Insomnia. There is no specific thread for it (or for Berlin for that matter) but I am certain there are reviews there.

You may have to dig a bit.

AM

Poor man's sex:

Freudenhaus. Mechanical attitudes. Working man's club.

King George. Bad attitudes. Tourist trap.

Tomsen. Good attitudes if you pick carefully.

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/preise.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1162845]Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the.

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.[/url]

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them. [/QUOTE]

Thanks, Charlie, will check your reports. Specifically a German girl simply because I like to keep a count and Germany is one country I'm yet to properly put a tick against.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1162796]Spot on. I use the cheaper-end escort agencies semi-regularly and there are 5 or 6 that I have tried and found to be reliable and good value. You can search this thread and find my various reports if you wish.

German girls are in short supply via the agencies, especially at the lower end of the price spectrum. They won't work for those wages, and they don't need to give an agency the significant cut that the EE girls do.

You will find plenty of independents on the Berlin-intim website who are genuine German girls. I can't recommend any personally 'because I don't do independents. But your best bet would be to do as Angus suggests and call one of the established bordelles like KD or perhaps VK, and order a take-away.

Good luck,

Charlie

P. S. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1162795]I've been there just one time, coincidentially also with Pia (who was pretty good). This bordelle is a bit of a factory in my mind, and the sort of experience that you recount is not of great surprise to me. I think the way to get the best out of Tiffany's is to call in advance, make a booking with a specific girl from whom you know exactly what you want, arrive punctually and expect a business-like encounter with both the SP and the ancillary staff. With that as your M. O, I believe that one can have a good time at Tiffany's. If you want to be romanced, try somewhere else (KD, Monrouge or Artemis for example)

Best,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Yes I think this is a good way to deal with it and the same thing can be said about VK I think. KD is indeed a good place to be romanced and acutally I made two visit to KD the last days. The first one was was with Helene. She made great impression in the vostellung and has a beautiful face. I was especially taken by that playful smile she gave me in the parade, and on the way out from the parade looking back at me with that "special look". It seems Helene is very new in KD and I thought it showed off in the session. I noticed she tried really hard though repeated expressions such as "my baby" and "I'm so happy my baby" could be a bit too much if you know what I mean and doesn't seem quite believable. But she is tender and kisses. She needs some training on handling a cock with her hand though but this count for a lot of girls.

During that visit with Helene I passed a naked girl in the hallway as I was returning from the shower and I knew I had to meet her too. I wasnt sure who it was as she quickly went to the side or back to the room but looking on the website after my return that day I thought it was Felicia. I noticed in the calender Felicia would be there the next day so made by booking when the day came and luckily was able to book a session 30 minutes later so I didn't have to walk too much in the streets in this crazy Berlin heat. As apposed to Helene Felicia is a german girl with big tits and a sympatic face. Very friendly and also kisses. She got quite carried away during the blowjob and I had to stop as as not to cum in the condom. Moved over to missionary position where she also had good enthusiasm until I came.

Maybe you coincidently met any of these two girls as well, Charlie? BTW, I share your opinion about Pia at Tiffany. I think I met her 3 or 4 times. She does put on a show and wouldn't exactly say she is GFE, but she's always been professional and friendly and I never caught her in a bad mood. Also takes the cumshot to the face with no complaints.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1162796]P. S.. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine.[/QUOTE]German girls are not hotter than the immigrants, but they can be of better quality in some respects. There are broadly two types of German girl working in the bordellos:

1. The well-educated girl who is culturally aware and may have another job. She was brought up in a sexually liberal society, without the hangups of so many other countries. Meeting you is a sort of paying hobby for her. She is interested to learn new things. She is open to other cultures and different experiences. She may have travelled to other countries for vacations or as a student.

2. The hardened proletarian, worn out by constant meaningless sex and deeply embedded in her own local culture. To her, you are not really worthy of sex if you are not a German. And even if you are she always wants to nail things down to a fixed procedure. In her mind she clutches for safety by putting limits and rules on everything.

[QUOTE=Kbkbal; 1162667]. Etc. The question I had is if you guys can recommend a good GFE escort, ideally a German girl in her twenties.

Etc. [/QUOTE]OK, my opinion is :

1) you want GFE + girl in her twenties : OK, but how old are you? I mean if you have the age of her father or grand father, GFE will not be impossible but won't be so easy, especially for young girls starting in this profession!

2) German girl + GFE escort : I don't know which is your budget but a "high level" (and, of course, expensive) German escort agency is [url]http://www.venusescorts.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162854]The King George is what it is. Not terrible but not great either. It is cheap and you will get laid there.

Try over in the party tref threads for material on Insomnia. There is no specific thread for it (or for Berlin for that matter) but I am certain there are reviews there.

You may have to dig a bit.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, if you had the choice out the two which one would you go too and why?

At the KG do you just go upto anyone you want a session with, or do they come up too you? From what I've read you sit at the bar and the women comes too you?

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1162921]Thanks, if you had the choice out the two which one would you go too and why?

At the KG do you just go upto anyone you want a session with, or do they come up too you? From what I've read you sit at the bar and the women comes too you? [/QUOTE]If you look up my rather extensive review of the King George I think I said just about all there is to say (from me anyway) about the KG. Why repeat myself?

A

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1162864]King George. Bad attitudes. Tourist trap.

L][/QUOTE]Have you ever been there? The KG is many things, flea pit among them, but it could never be described as a tourist trap. The girls there, as inexperienced as they are, are at least trying. That much is obvious. The KG is more like a neighbourhood place that tries desperately to be upscale but fails miserably.

It is not without charm.

AM