FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915780]How much extra is customary for DATY on an Optifuck.[/QUOTE]Zero. I am yet to find a girl at Sharks who is not providing DATY or is asking extra for it. I therefore consider DATY a standard service without any extra cost in a 100E/30 session.

If I may ramble on:

I can wholeheartedly say that I have never heard a girl in Hessen asking extra for DATY in the last 20 years. Not saying it can't happen, in particular DATY can be refused as a service if you are the type of guy who bargains for a cheap and quick 50E/30 session. The bestlooking girls would never agree to a 50E session anyway (in 2024).

Outside Sharks I have found 1 at Oase and several at the Austrian FKK clubs (post corona). The one at Oase, for unknown reasons, simply refused to provide DATY at any cost (maybe she did me a favour). At the Austrian FKK clubs, in particular GT Vienna and Mystic, some girls, not all, will IME be trying to ask extra for DATY (30- 70 E). IME GT Vienna and Mystic are the worst upselling clubs out there.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2915833]You can find almost all the funs in USA except FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]Same in France, much better quality of life than Germany, escorts but no brothel.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915909]I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.[/QUOTE]Agreed, as I mentioned, when they don't come down on the 200/ HR, I opt for just 100/ half. My point was that unlike the other 2 reports of 80% taking 150 per hour, I have not come across a girl who was not a regular or a precovid girl who took that deal. Maybe it's just me or my selection, but the 150/ HR price is not my experience and is also not something commonly heard of on the German forums either.

These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915909]I believe its always the best way to be straight and honest.

Just say no thanks" if she only wants 200/60 min.

All men should be able to resists or you choose 100/30 min.

There is always a second option in sharks.[/QUOTE]100/30 is a fine price for a blonde teeny optifuk. A little bit more expensive than in Bangkok and you don't get a blonde white girl. I have been eating Asian for a year, I'm looking forward to the meals that await me.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2915900]The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .[/QUOTE]Do You pay 150/60 with fire Sofi. De, Kity, Katalea, Celine ex Oase? When I agree they don t worth 200 . Some ask more than 200/60 for few kissing. My advice is don t pay extra for kissing, because it means the girl is not a natural kisser and You will get only very average for your 50 . Kisser girls don t ask extra and highest level girls don t speak about money like grocer. Killing desire for me, when I need to be impressed by image to feel desire and being motivated to pay. I m happy because I still find woman images for 150/60 and even 120 , when so many better values than now most at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2915828]As a regular local visitor, I can recommend everyone:

Don't ask for the price.

You better say it yourself: like 100 for 30 min and 150 for 60 min? If its ok for you then we can find a room now".

Or so.

When you enter the hall, the girls on the right side of the bar are not recommended.

The group with melanie / emma / simona usw.

Those girls all asking 200/60 min or even more but less service.[/QUOTE]Simona is Rose? Very short but expensive. But not only them asking at least 200 , gypsy Claudia? Kity, Katalea, Celine ex Oase, Sofi. De? When You are into real GFE, not only 3 baby kiss, then You don t go for only 30 short mn and having to cut time to fuck like a rabbit is like paying for a failure, when 30 mn can t be same quality than minimum 1 hour which is sometimes too short for my love in bed, favorite game, like Sheryl Crow sings.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]When You are not only a tourist, even being a foreigner not speaking German, You still find 50/30 with prettier than most at Sharks, at Atlanta, Penelope, LR. Same in Switzerland, there are better values than Globe which fell for looks.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]Some of it comes down to why you go in the first place, if the only thing you are interested in is sex that could be true. Personally I still really likes Sharks, good atmosphere, sport on TV and as for the girls there is plenty of choice and I get good service from quite a few of them. I've probably been a couple of hundred times and still on a Friday or Saturday night the sight of 100+ naked girls walking around impresses me every time. It's nothing I can get in my country.

I tried Acapulco Gold which was much cheaper but just found it boring. I'd rather have less sex and pay the higher prices at Sharks than go there again. I quickly tired of using private ads, too many time wasters and girls that looks nothing like their profile photos, good thing about FKK clubs is there are very few surprises when you get to the room.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2915900]The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .[/QUOTE]To clarify, are some of yall claiming that you are getting 150 for a single hour with girls that started after covid / inflation?

Are we talking about regulars or new girls? Are you getting to the 150 rate only after hard negotiations? Or perhaps only with longs rooms?

The locals I know are also not telling me that they are getting 150 e for a single hour with a newer girl anymore. German forum members are also not reporting 150 for a single hour with a newer girl. I only get the 150 e rate with girls who have been there for a while, before covid, and with one newer girl who I've previously taken for two 30 minute rooms and built a good repoire. Since December 2023, I have not had any new girl agree to 150 e for one single hour unless I've been with them before. And it's not like I'm a new face or have been perceived as a tourist. I've been going for a decade and many girls know me to have potential for long rooms but not for paying high hourly rates. Some still think I am local.

Not trying to be controversial but would like to clarify if we're comparing apples to apples. I'm completely against the guys who say things like "I'll pay whatever I don't care to argue over small money. " At the same time, mongers tend to not want to be seen as weak or a "newb" so they tend to understate what they actually pay so they presumably save face.

Would like to know if it's just my face that makes girls want to charge 200 e and if the average monger actually gets quoted 150 e for a single hour by "80% of girls. " Trying to set accurate expectations for the average club visitor, and myself to boot.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2915900]The girls ask 200/60 for some customers and 150/60 for others.

If they spot weakness in you the price is 200.

Don't be weak because then you get fooled.

I never pay 200/60 .[/QUOTE]Not every monger looks like Brad Pitt. Not every monger is as fit as a fitness model. Not every monger has the same leverage or negotiating power. Ugly, non-white, turkish, romanian, arabic, fat, bald, etc. dont exactly have much of a choice. If Brenda wants to charge them premium, they're going to pay it. There's only one Brenda, there's plenty of ugly fat guys.

Now if every monger looked like brad pitt and a fitness model, then every monger would have the exact same leverage. But this is reality.

Statistically, one of the most non-wanted demographics are Asian men. And they are in every brothel around the world happily spending money, knowing this is their few chances to get laid outside of an Asian woman.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2916206]good thing about FKK clubs is there are very few surprises when you get to the room.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. And thats why I still go to German FKKs.

In FKK clubs, you only have to go to one place and you get all the ass you can handle. Yes it sucks that most are Romanian. Yes it sucks that prices are stupid. Yes it sucks that the music is awful because the staff has a horrible taste in music. Yes the endless harassment by ugly WGs who can’t even get 1 customer and don’t take no for an answer sucks.

But, the pros still outweigh the cons. In my book.

[QUOTE=Seshomeru1;2916106]These prices are one of the highest in the entire world, better to just hobby in your own country.[/QUOTE]Don't let the Sharks and the Hessen / Bavarian prices mislead you into thinking that this is normal for most of the country. For some areas, 100/ hour is the average rate. I'm thinking the average for all of the country is around 150 per hour. One monger mentioned Aca Gold being boring but that is one of the more run down venues. There are dozens of clubs scattered about in the same area that are more social. Now, Hessens clubs do have the perk of being the most international-English friendly so the vibe is different. You can tell by the number of girls who don't even speak German but fluent English. Go to NRW but not too close to the Dutch border where there is more German spoken in the clubs and you can find chill yet social vibes without Hessen / Bavarian pricing. Would help to speak or at least understand some German if vibes are what you're seeking.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2916225]Not every monger looks like Brad Pitt. Not every monger is as fit as a fitness model. Not every monger has the same leverage or negotiating power. Ugly, non-white, turkish, romanian, arabic, fat, bald, etc. dont exactly have much of a choice. If Brenda wants to charge them premium, they're going to pay it. There's only one Brenda, there's plenty of ugly fat guys.

Now if every monger looked like brad pitt and a fitness model, then every monger would have the exact same leverage. But this is reality.

Statistically, one of the most non-wanted demographics are Asian men. And they are in every brothel around the world happily spending money, knowing this is their few chances to get laid outside of an Asian woman.[/QUOTE]This is just my opinion but I think your logic is off. They want easy money. They don't necessarily want to get turned on. I have heard there are Asian hunters in FKK clubs. If you aren't attractive to them but they see you as their little brother they will pick their little brother over studly Brad Pitt. Just my thoughts on it.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2916231]This is just my opinion but I think your logic is off. They want easy money. They don't necessarily want to get turned on. I have heard there are Asian hunters in FKK clubs. If you aren't attractive to them but they see you as their little brother they will pick their little brother over studly Brad Pitt. Just my thoughts on it.[/QUOTE]Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see. Some WGs can afford to be picky.

Its imporant to keep that in mind when we talk about prices. Not every WG is getting as many customers as Brenda, meaning they dont have the leverage she has.

Thats just one example. You think the Germans dont understand that either? They're definitely never going to be cheaper than a Romanian, they are well aware of leverage and supply and demand as well. WGs will literally lie about what country they are from because they know it could change the leverage.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2916233]Talk to Brenda, she'll give you a long list of men she will not see. Some WGs can afford to be picky.

Its imporant to keep that in mind when we talk about prices. Not every WG is getting as many customers as Brenda, meaning they dont have the leverage she has.

Thats just one example. You think the Germans dont understand that either? They're definitely never going to be cheaper than a Romanian, they are well aware of leverage and supply and demand as well. WGs will literally lie about what country they are from because they know it could change the leverage.[/QUOTE]I'll assume you are right, thanks.