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[QUOTE=SteelDh;1658308]I'm planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya but I'm a little worried about racism over there if anyone can tell me what I should expect I would be grateful. Also my plan is to spend 5 days in Bangkok and 5 days in Pattaya how much money should I bring with me to be comfortable?[/QUOTE]A tip.
Tell the girls you aren't African- tell them you are Indian. Thai girls love Indians!
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1658493]. Ahhh, feminism at its finest![/QUOTE]Americans. We defeated Nazism in the 40's. We defeated Communism in the 80's. We defeated Islamists in the 00's. Yet, we lost our freedom at home.
To those doubters on LT. For the girls it sucks! Put yourself in their high-heels.
I saw a popular Rainbow girl turn down 6,000 LT offer. From a nice Japanese gentleman caller.
[QUOTE=Markie123;1597177]Hi,
I am new to BKK but have been around a bit in various places so not so young and naive. However I met a bar girl who you guessed it I fell for not a young 25 yr old or anything like that her best years are behind her no doubt. Me married a long time I mean long but somehow this went out the window and now I am on the brink of giving it all up for this girl who never asked me for much and not once tried to rip me off. I know all the horror stories about being fleeced due to the buffalo etc and as I said I am not naive enough to think she loves my beer belly and grey hair but somehow there is some connection there and I can't put my mind at rest if I am just being a silly old bugger or if it can work. By the way I can probably get a job in Thailand from my company and my mate says go for it and if it does not work out there is always plenty of more attractive younger models to be had.
The dilemma is do I chuck in a very good life with all the things you can imagine including a pretty wife and grand kids or do I stick with what I got and always look back and regret. I know there are some wise old experienced heads on here who probably have had the same dilemma so any good advice and experiences would be helpful. I will be back there in two weeks and need to make or break this one way or the other.[/QUOTE]Things have moved on pretty much as I guess I knew they would. Went thro the whole pain of BF stop working scenario which eventually I succumbed to and coughed up. Continued travelling in and out for work every month until I sorted out a permanent position there and now I have a work permit. Moved out of BKK and live in ChonBuri together with her and so far so good she really takes care in every way possible. Not saying this is a match for life but I am happy and of course she is as well her life changed significantly for the better. In the relatively short period of time I have been in Thailand I have got to know a fair few of these girls on personal level and mostly they are really nice people. Who knows where it ends up but you only live once so enjoy.
[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1658249]Just so there is no misunderstanding, it is possible to pay 5000 baht for a girl at Nataree, but most of the girls will be around 2500 baht (or maybe less; I haven't been there in months so can't speak to whether prices are creeping up). If you add a 500 baht non-mandatory tip to that, you are talking about somewhere around 3000 baht. I agree though 10 K sounds a little high, particularly given that on the girl front, one usually hits a wall after a few days and while one might start at three girls a day (e. g.), few can keep up at that pace for a full month. Then again, I have known a few who could, damnit![/QUOTE]I will probably be hitting that wall you mentioned. Just wish I was younger with this budget, I could have put it to better use then. Nataree is on the top of the soapy list (add Poseidon, La Belle, Utopia or CP2 possibly?
[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1658593]Americans. We defeated Nazism in the 40's. We defeated Communism in the 80's. We defeated Islamists in the 00's. Yet, we lost our freedom at home.[/QUOTE]If you really think that then you have only been on holiday elsewhere? You got it better than you think? And that is coming from someone who think like you!
[QUOTE=Steve7777;1658594]To those doubters on LT. For the girls it sucks! Put yourself in their high-heels.
I saw a popular Rainbow girl turn down 6,000 LT offer. From a nice Japanese gentleman caller.[/QUOTE]No for all of us it sucks and getting worse. That is almost 200 USD FFS! Up from about 37 USD LT when I first moved here 15 yrs ago. That is one hell of a price increase. Imagine if housing, cars, or food went up by that percentage in 15 yrs. We'd all be in the poor house. Amazing that there are dudes that will pay that now. They should hand out a flyer at Swampy, "Don't pay the girls over 1 k ST. ".
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1658674]No for all of us it sucks and getting worse. That is almost 200 USD FFS! Up from about 37 USD LT when I first moved here 15 yrs ago. That is one hell of a price increase. Imagine if housing, cars, or food went up by that percentage in 15 yrs. We'd all be in the poor house. Amazing that there are dudes that will pay that now. They should hand out a flyer at Swampy, "Don't pay the girls over 1 k ST. ".[/QUOTE]I just spent 5 days in Pattaya and 8 days in Bangkok. I took several girls from go-go's and freelancers from bars and was quite surprised that I could take all of them LT for 2500 - 3000 bath. They were very beautiful girls and gave good service in bed with enthusiasm. They stayed from 2-3 AM until 6-7 PM the next day (except one who had a regular daytime job and had to leave early). Not sure if I was just lucky, but given the fact they stay with me 16 hours I really can not complain the price. Of course if you go to a place like RB4 you will know the price is high. Take it if you can afford it! But there are nice girls to be found at prices that are still not bad. Based on the time and service you get. The key point is to treat them nice, offer them food, relax by the pool, small shopping etc. You don't have to become their boyfriend (I have learned the lesson! Just spend some quality time with them and get to know them better. Talk about stuff they are interested in. Several sessions in bed are OK with most of them also (If they like you)!
[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1658593]Americans. We defeated Nazism in the 40's. We defeated Communism in the 80's. We defeated Islamists in the 00's. Yet, we lost our freedom at home.[/QUOTE]Perhaps someone should tell the "Islamists" they are defeated. From what I see on TV and read in the newspapers, it seems they have missed that.
Dress respectable, smell nice, and be polite. You won't have any racism issues if you follow these three things.
[QUOTE=Steve7777;1658594]To those doubters on LT. For the girls it sucks! Put yourself in their high-heels.
I saw a popular Rainbow girl turn down 6,000 LT offer. From a nice Japanese gentleman caller.[/QUOTE]I agree there is little incentive for a top earning girl to take LT, unless she knows and likes the customer, and will make good money for not much hard work, and will get good comfortable sleep.
She knows very well, some guys will want to fuck all night for 3K. This has no appeal to her whatsoever. She can get a succession of 3 quick STs. She has control of the market.
On the other hand a girl that is very ordinary with few customers, will have to take whatever she can get. She has no control. She has to go cheaper and provide far more service. Unfortunately for me, I still don't want to fuck these ugly / average looking ones.
Some girls live with mother and father who supposedly don't know what daughter is doing. They have to be home by 2:30 AM. LOL Interesting story they spin. I don't know whether to believe this one. Could be actually pimp/BF is waiting. Its of no importance. Simply they just don't want to do LT. I am sure could change the outcome for a very high price, but I don't need that.
Can anyone go over how you could give a girl a hot water shower, a bed and a nice silver trinket for long time 25 years ago.
[QUOTE=Steve7777;1658592]A tip.
Tell the girls you aren't African- tell them you are Indian. Thai girls love Indians![/QUOTE]Steve, I am skeptical and don't think that Steel would get any special preference or treatment projecting himself as an Indian.
[QUOTE=SteelDh;1658308]I'm planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya but I'm a little worried about racism over there if anyone can tell me what I should expect I would be grateful. Also my plan is to spend 5 days in Bangkok and 5 days in Pattaya how much money should I bring with me to be comfortable?[/QUOTE]
However I would definitely second BKKdogs advise to dress well, smell nice and treat all ladies with respect. Better option.
In case girl dosent show any sign of interest then move on to the next one. Loads out there for all taste and types. There are lots who will enjoy your company and give you great experience.
[QUOTE=Steve7777;1658592]A tip.
Tell the girls you aren't African- tell them you are Indian. Thai girls love Indians![/QUOTE]Not funny, just dumb. Fortunately, others here have given helpful advise on the subject.
[QUOTE=SteelDh;1658308]I'm planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya but I'm a little worried about racism over there if anyone can tell me what I should expect I would be grateful. Also my plan is to spend 5 days in Bangkok and 5 days in Pattaya how much money should I bring with me to be comfortable?[/QUOTE]I have lived here full time for 4 years and visited 5 times the year prior to moving here. Don't give a thought to not having fun. I now live in the Northeast, but have lived in Bangkok and Pattaya. In Bankgkok, I've visited mostly massage places. In Pattaya, have taken gogo girls from walking street and LK Metro, and beer bar girls from all over. My experience, if there are 20 girls there, at least 70-75% will go with you. That's plenty of girls to choose from at each location. Girls will try to get as much from you as they can, especially if they know that it's your first time here. Gogo girls want 800+ BF and 3-5000 baht. Many beer bars want 3-500 BF and you can take a girl for 2000-2500 baht LT. Many beer bar girls are older, but I have had many ones from there and at least one new girl. Beer bars require more looking if you want a particular type.