American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2559986]Yes, you left out the parts about the child abuse and eating their flesh in the secret chamber of a pizza parlour, the microscopic tracking device in the vaccine solution, the Hollywood GGI special effects employed to make an ordinary tour of the Capitol Building by peaceful police-loving patriots look like a violent overthrow of American democracy and a few other favorite "conservative" gems.[/QUOTE]I don't know about most of the things you wrote but you are correct the post forgot to mention the child abuse at the border and the domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2559969] But if your cause is so fait accompli[/QUOTE]Sure it's inevitable, but Fared and the rest of us know full well that you'll be taken there kicking and screaming. That's what all the lying / denial is about, is one of the fundamental stages of grief.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=DCups;2559880]I think you covered it, buddy. Well said.[/QUOTE]It tells us a lot because we recall what you called the VP while referencing her mixed race heritage. Yes what flows freely in what is perceived as safe company sometimes slips, especially after some drinks and / or under anonymity. But it reaffirms what we are dealing with while you keep proving our points. It also drives voter turnout which was essential in the last election.

[QUOTE=Canada;2560010]Yes I know that when Obama was president democrats thought 6% unemployment was full employment but Trump lowered it to 3. 5% and he didn't consider it full employment. You just hold Obama to a lower standard than Trump. Trump could do more for the American people while playing golf than Biden will ever do on the job in a year. Just a fact. I can't believe you condone Obama and Biden failures but you criticize all Trump success. I guess you much like Biden prefer to see America fail like they are doing in the first 4 months of Biden. Why are democrats anti America?[/QUOTE]Actually, the steady years' long downward trajectory of the unemployment rate that Trump inherited from Obama-Biden went from 4.7% when Trump took office to 3.5% on its best day pre Trump's Pandemic. Ok, that is a 1.2 percentage point decrease. If he had anything to do with it at all it came at a cost of $2.5 Trillion Trump he added to the deficit.

But, really, once Obama-Biden and the other Dems got us below 6% unemployment way back in 2014-2015, "Full Employment" in this era, a variation of a percentage point or two is insignificant in terms of overall jobs creation and a national economy. Hardly worth adding $2.5 Trillion to the deficit with that one and only godawful economic legislation he signed.

LOL. No matter how much Trump crowed about that additional 1.2 percentage point decline and so many other things, his Job Approval ratings never looked like they belonged to some economic turnaround stable genius he hoped to bamboozle us into seeing him. For a very good reason; he wasn't.

The vast majority of Americans knew he was just a pathetic failure trying desperately to take credit for positive conditions he inherited while, most pathetic of all, slamming those who preceeded him who did all the work, heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to produce those positive results.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2559986]Yes, you left out the parts about the child abuse and eating their flesh in the secret chamber of a pizza parlour, the microscopic tracking device in the vaccine solution, the Hollywood GGI special effects employed to make an ordinary tour of the Capitol Building by peaceful police-loving patriots look like a violent overthrow of American democracy and a few other favorite "conservative" gems.[/QUOTE]Ironic that these are the people so concerned about thought control.

[QUOTE=Canada;2560016]Here is an article posted by CNBC on May 10 concerned about rising inflation. Further in their report they say the biggest increase to consumer goods is on used cars and trucks which is a leading indicator for inflation along with groceries, gas and expendables. High inflation equate to economy collapsing.

USA 2021 inflation January thru April 2. 62% to date and rising quickly. Annualized projected 10%.

The inflation rate plays an important role in determining the health of an economy. Countries with extremely high inflation rates are said to have hyperinflation and when this occurs the economy is often near collapse. But even moderate inflation can rapidly erode purchasing power and creates uncertainty as businesses have more difficulty estimating future costs. Usually, high inflation rates also correspond to high interest rates as lenders need to compensate for the decline in purchasing power of future interest and principal repayments. This results in higher costs of doing business and place an overall drag on the economy.[/QUOTE]I did not see a link to that full article in your post. I am curious to see the reasoning whoever wrote it used to conclude that "High inflation equate to economy collapsing."

That is not remotely close to the truth. That point is not even made in the rest of your post if some of that was quoting from the article.

High inflation might come about due to wage inflation, too many jobs being created for the number of applicants applying for them. That happened under Carter and the fix was quite simple as long as the POTUS at the time had the balls and political will to appoint a Fed Chairman with the intention of doing it (raise the Fed Funds rates. Then after inflation is tamed those Fed Funds rates can be lowered). Carter did that in late 1979 with his new Fed Chairman appontee Paul Volker. By early 1980, a year before Reagan took office and 4 years before Reagan began crowing about reducing inflation that Carter did all the work to fix, the rate of inflation was already beginning to decline quite steadily.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2560038]Actually, the steady years' long downward trajectory of the unemployment rate that Trump inherited from Obama-Biden went from 4.7% when Trump took office to 3.5% on its best day pre Trump's Pandemic. Ok, that is a 1.2 percentage point decrease. If he had anything to do with it at all it came at a cost of $2.5 Trillion Trump he added to the deficit.

But, really, once Obama-Biden and the other Dems got us below 6% unemployment way back in 2014-2015, "Full Employment" in this era, a variation of a percentage point or two is insignificant in terms of overall jobs creation and a national economy. Hardly worth adding $2.5 Trillion to the deficit with that one and only godawful economic legislation he signed.

LOL. No matter how much Trump crowed about that additional 1.2 percentage point decline and so many other things, his Job Approval ratings never looked like they belonged to some economic turnaround stable genius he hoped to bamboozle us into seeing him. For a very good reason; he wasn't.

The vast majority of Americans knew he was just a pathetic failure trying desperately to take credit for positive conditions he inherited while, most pathetic of all, slamming those who preceeded him who did all the work, heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to produce those positive results.[/QUOTE]As I said in previous posts whenever Trump achieved better results than Obama the democrats and the media wouldn't accept it. Always made an excuse for all the Trump successes.

[QUOTE=Canada;2560113]As I said in previous posts whenever Trump achieved better results than Obama the democrats and the media wouldn't accept it. Always made an excuse for all the Trump successes.[/QUOTE]No, mainstream media was always encouraging Trump to stop the lunatic, misspelled and damn near incoherent tweets about this or that easily debunked conspiracy theory and "talk up the great economy." LOL. Trying in vain to help him win re-election or to at least inch his Job Approval rating above 39-47% every now and then.

Which hilariously and falsely implied to anyone watching, listening to or reading mainstream media that Trump had anything whatsoever to do with the positive condition of the economy pre Trump's Pandemic.

But then, mainstream media was and still is always rooting for Repubs to win elections, Trump included. See, mainstream media thrives on bad news, not good news. By necessity, that requires it to play up and help Repubs win elections and downplay and throw out hurdles to prevent Dems from winning them.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2560130]No, mainstream media was always encouraging Trump to stop the lunatic, misspelled and damn near incoherent tweets about this or that easily debunked conspiracy theory and "talk up the great economy." LOL. Trying in vain to help him win re-election or to at least inch his Job Approval rating above 39-47% every now and then.

Which hilariously and falsely implied to anyone watching, listening to or reading mainstream media that Trump had anything whatsoever to do with the positive condition of the economy pre Trump's Pandemic.

But then, mainstream media was and still is always rooting for Repubs to win elections, Trump included. See, mainstream media thrives on bad news, not good news. By necessity, that requires it to play up and help Repubs win elections and downplay and throw out hurdles to prevent Dems from winning them.[/QUOTE]Which country do you live in? Obviously not USA.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2560130]mainstream media was and still is always rooting for Repubs to win elections, Trump included.[/QUOTE]You must be joking, even though I know you are not. 555. Seriously though, no offence intended, this is the most absurd statement I have heard since, "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified. " -ABC News (Disney).

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2560130]See, mainstream media thrives on bad news, not good news. By necessity, that requires it to play up and help Repubs win elections and downplay and throw out hurdles to prevent Dems from winning them.[/QUOTE]Once again your logic escapes me. Didn't corporate media spend every waking hour of the entire Trump Presidency reporting on the so called collusion between Trump and Putin that in fact never occurred or at the very least could not be proven as evidenced by the final conclusions of the Mueller Report. [URL]https://youtu.be/7iaMJXree3I[/URL].

And your assertion that the corporate media thrives on bad new is negated by their lack of coverage on Biden's first 100 days in office which is strewn with one disaster piling up on another. Is it really you contention that the news coverage would be the same if Trump were still president and these same disasters were piling up?

[QUOTE=Canada;2558890]You can't check the state because the state deleted the chart and the evidence so nobody will ever know the truth. Seems like everytime some real evidence gets presented it it quickly eliminated by the democrats. As soon as USA Today ran the story the evidence disappeared. And you wonder why Republicans want a honest election.[/QUOTE]Per your article your statement is not true. But whether there was a problem reading a chart or not the core issue is that the statement was mixing Primary and General Election data. In short, the claim that the numbers don't add up is false.

And frankly if in fact there was a chart that conservatives seemed unable to read correctly, would removing that chart be a bad thing? What does it say about a person who thinks removing confusing charts is proof the mis-reading is true? Again, I see no evidence that anything was taken down, but do you really think that everyone else in the state government and the press were too stupid to notice something that basic didn't add up? Most likely every ballot has a unique ID which makes such things completely impossible and only those who don't really understand the process can be persuaded.

[QUOTE=Sojourner;2560211]Per your article your statement is not true. But whether there was a problem reading a chart or not the core issue is that the statement was mixing Primary and General Election data. In short, the claim that the numbers don't add up is false.

And frankly if in fact there was a chart that conservatives seemed unable to read correctly, would removing that chart be a bad thing? What does it say about a person who thinks removing confusing charts is proof the mis-reading is true? Again, I see no evidence that anything was taken down, but do you really think that everyone else in the state government and the press were too stupid to notice something that basic didn't add up? Most likely every ballot has a unique ID which makes such things completely impossible and only those who don't really understand the process can be persuaded.[/QUOTE]No I think it is possible to counterfeit anything these days including currency. I don't think everyone hired to count ballots by the democrats was capable of distinguishing if a ballot was real or fake. In many cases they didn't even verify signatures so I along with millions believe that if you really want to cheat in any election it is possible.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2560163]You must be joking, even though I know you are not. 555. Seriously though, no offence intended, this is the most absurd statement I have heard since, "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified. " -ABC News (Disney).

Once again your logic escapes me. Didn't corporate media spend every waking hour of the entire Trump Presidency reporting on the so called collusion between Trump and Putin that in fact never occurred or at the very least could not be proven as evidenced by the final conclusions of the Mueller Report. [URL]https://youtu.be/7iaMJXree3I[/URL].

And your assertion that the corporate media thrives on bad new is negated by their lack of coverage on Biden's first 100 days in office which is strewn with one disaster piling up on another. Is it really you contention that the news coverage would be the same if Trump were still president and these same disasters were piling up?[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. The media did everything possible to get Biden elected. Lie and more lies to get Biden elected Now that USA is in turmoil and Biden's is screwing daily the media is deathly silent. The media still has not fessed up to even one of Biden's main screwups and if Trump had done what Biden did in first hundred days it be anti Trump 24 hours a day.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2560163]You must be joking, even though I know you are not. 555. Seriously though, no offence intended, this is the most absurd statement I have heard since, "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified. " -ABC News (Disney).

Once again your logic escapes me. Didn't corporate media spend every waking hour of the entire Trump Presidency reporting on the so called collusion between Trump and Putin that in fact never occurred or at the very least could not be proven as evidenced by the final conclusions of the Mueller Report. [URL]https://youtu.be/7iaMJXree3I[/URL].

And your assertion that the corporate media thrives on bad new is negated by their lack of coverage on Biden's first 100 days in office which is strewn with one disaster piling up on another. Is it really you contention that the news coverage would be the same if Trump were still president and these same disasters were piling up?[/QUOTE]Since when does accurate reporting of bad news vs good news help either side win elections? If that were true we never would have had a second Reagan term, a second George W. Bush term or as close to a second Trump term as we got. We would have had a second Carter term though.

The American electorate votes primarily on economic issues and they love to vote for "winners" or perceived "winners."

On those factors, mainstream media's assistance in helping Repubs win over Dems is unfailing.

According to mainstream media all through every election in my lifetime and right up to this very minute, "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats and the stock market likes Republicans more."

Yet that has never been true for at least 100 years. In fact, it could not have been more false over the past 100 years or so.

And if the Repub failure is particularly spectacular, count on mainstream media to twist itself into a pretzel to assert some non existent "Both Sides Do It" arguement in order to slant the playing field back to the Repubs before the next election. No, Both Sides don't produce every Great Recession and major Bear Market Crash of the past 100 years and none of the boom times. Only Repubs have done that.

"Winners vs Losers"? According to mainstream media, a Repub win is always a "Republican Victory!" But a Dem win is also a "Republican Victory!" LOL.

One needs to go no further than this past election where the Dems won control of the Senate, maintained (won) control of the House and won the White House against an incumbent, a victory so elusive it is the first time it happened since Herbert Hoover.

Yet mainstream media has been falling all over itself to characterize that election as a humiliating loss for the Dems that requires some real soul searching or a post-death autopsy for them to figure out what they got wrong so it never happens again.

Mainstream media always helps Repubs win elections the way they are won in the real world whenever possible. Not Dems.

BTW, Natty, I replied to your PM but I think your mailbox must be full. I did not see my reply land there.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2560320]Since when does accurate reporting of bad news vs good news help either side win elections? If that were true we never would have had a second Reagan term, a second George W. Bush term or as close to a second Trump term as we got. We would have had a second Carter term though.

The American electorate votes primarily on economic issues and they love to vote for "winners" or perceived "winners."

On those factors, mainstream media's assistance in helping Repubs win over Dems is unfailing.

According to mainstream media all through every election in my lifetime and right up to this very minute, "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats and the stock market likes Republicans more."

Yet that has never been true for at least 100 years. In fact, it could not have been more false over the past 100 years or so.

And if the Repub failure is particularly spectacular, count on mainstream media to twist itself into a pretzel to assert some non existent "Both Sides Do It" arguement in order to slant the playing field back to the Repubs before the next election. No, Both Sides don't produce every Great Recession and major Bear Market Crash of the past 100 years and none of the boom times. Only Repubs have done that.

"Winners vs Losers"? According to mainstream media, a Repub win is always a "Republican Victory!" But a Dem win is also a "Republican Victory!" LOL.

One needs to go no further than this past election where the Dems won control of the Senate, maintained (won) control of the House and won the White House against an incumbent, a victory so elusive it is the first time it happened since Herbert Hoover.

Yet mainstream media has been falling all over itself to characterize that election as a humiliating loss for the Dems that requires some real soul searching or a post-death autopsy for them to figure out what they got wrong so it never happens again.

Mainstream media always helps Repubs win elections the way they are won in the real world whenever possible. Not Dems.
The media has changed drastically since the Reagan years.

BTW, Natty, I replied to your PM but I think your mailbox must be full. I did not see my reply land there.[/QUOTE]I don't know who makes this up and I don't know anyone but you that could believe such crap as you posted but possibly you could have gotten it from CNN. They make this kind of crap up all the time.

Carter didn't win a 2Nd term because he was the worse president ever for inflation and the economy. Not for long though. Biden has done more Carter crap in 4 months than Carter did in 4 years. Biden definitely takes the title away from Carter. At least Biden gets rid of worst VP ever. Harris will win that in a landslide.

Reagan would have won a third term with his economy. Newscaster were fairly honest back in the Reagan years but now the media is just a platform of propaganda for the Democratic Party. No real news anymore from CNN, MSNBB, ABC, CBS or NBC nationally. Locally a little better.