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Correct. I always politely decline any invitation by pros and nonpros to meet their families. Once you meet their families, they will start asking you for a bunch of things. Be careful when they say that you are a member of the family.

[QUOTE=TuDueno;1186475]A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.[/QUOTE]

There's real worlds and then real worlds.

FACT about Colombian culture. In the REAL Colombia, not the one that gets presented in front of the typical pussy-hunting foreigner, Colombians are very VERY suspicious of people they don't know, people outside their circle. This is why you have so many cousins fucking and even marrying in this culture (my gf's parents were cousins, one of my best friend's parents are cousins and my ex-wife has cousins in her grandparents).

If you're some stranger from another part of the city, much less another COUNTRY, they typically wouldn't consider you family for a long long time. And the converse of what you guys said is actually true. If they accept even 100 pesos from you, it's because you're in the circle. Because of this, they will generally not even let you so much as buy a piece of bread or a lightbulb to support the household because that means they are VALIDATING THE RELATIONSHIP and this is something the typical Colombian mom and dad do NOT do lightly, even if things are going great and everybody gets along.

As a matter of fact, an excellent litmus test of if you have a girl who is really going out with you because she earnestly likes you or a gold digger is how long she waits before introducing you to her parents. Bringing you home to Mama and Papa before the 2 month or even 3 month mark is EXTREMELY counter-cultural in the REAL Colombia. If you find yourself being introduced to the family after a week or two, you have an interesada on your hands, so be CAREFUL. This of course means that the whole family is in on the game, and by associating yourself with these people you have now LOST the trust of the whole neighborhood, which to somebody like me would be important, because I live here full time. This is a big part of the reason gringos are starting to get a bad rep here.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!

This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"

If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.

Play the game don't get played.[/QUOTE]That's a wakeup call if I ever heard one. That's better than a pot of coffee and a cold shower combined. If you don't speak the language and you don't have any friends, stick to the casas. Game is all encompassing and it exudes or manifests through one's swagger. Running around looking like a MARK or scared won't work in the end. Confidence is so important when it comes to pulling Colombianas. Can't say enough about the money either. Let's just stick to the Forum's MO. Peace

[quote=john gault; 1186540]you say you may spend more on a novia than a pro. i say you will spend much more and that is a fact. i have stayed with novias from time to time, and it was always the fridge broke down or the washing machine or if she has a car that needs work. as far as the washing machine, and the fridge, when it happened to me, i was never asked to replace or fix them. i just saw how she had to use them and it was to me a thing that needed to be done. now if you are lucky to aviod those pitfalls then going out to eat is now double for you. now i'm sure she is a good cook. seems they all know how to cook. notice how you are buying steak, and fish in the supermarket. wow those grapes from chile look good. all the rest of the family loves this better food than the usual beans and rice. so you like her to have sexy night clothes for you to enjoy. just so happens while you are shopping for those items she sees a pair of jeans she likes. oh yeah while shopping with her, don't let her catch you looking or talking to that cute salesgirl who is wishing you were spending that money on her not your novia. then things for her kids, and medicine. of course going to the discos is another expense. almost forgot all the phone calls you make to her when you are home. god forbid you miss a day without calling her.

all in all, those sweet besos do seem to make it all worthwhile. of course i'm sure some of you brad pitt guys will let us know how they pay almost nothing to have one of these sweet girls. good for you. me i live in the real world.[/quote]that's what you get for dating a poor barrio girl. did it once and can't deal with it. now i prefer going after the educated girls with a steady job that don't need to depend on you for anything.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!

This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. I want to hear about everything. IMO, this board is about international sex. Paid. Unpaid. Pro. Non pro. Semi pro. Young. Old. It doesn't matter as long as it pertains to SEX internationally. If you are looking for more specific info, more power to you. Just skip over the stuff you don't want to read.

My dos centavos.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1186541]News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl![/QUOTE]Not that it ain't going to happen. The stars have to align. Your conditions are on point.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.

I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.[/QUOTE]Yes this is great, BUT. Don't be like that idiot that got his ass kicked and got run out of the country! If you use friend connects, DO NOT fuck around. Either one girl at a time OR don't lie and get into something serious just to fuck her.

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1186581]And the converse of what you guys said is actually true. If they accept even 100 pesos from you, it's because you're in the circle. Because of this, they will generally not even let you so much as buy a piece of bread or a lightbulb to support the household[/QUOTE]Finally a man who knows what he is talking about. Where are you guys finding these women who are always begging for things and expecting you to take them shopping? And so what if they did. Are you so afraid to say no?

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1186581]As a matter of fact, an excellent litmus test of if you have a girl who is really going out with you because she earnestly likes you or a gold digger is how long she waits before introducing you to her parents. Bringing you home to Mama and Papa before the 2 month or even 3 month mark is EXTREMELY counter-cultural in the REAL Colombia. If you find yourself being introduced to the family after a week or two, you have an interesada on your hands, so be CAREFUL.[/QUOTE]Maybe so, but I'm not a traditional kind of guy. I'm on my game and always to the extreme. One of the first questions I ask a female is,"What is your family going to say if you go out with a foreigner?" Then I ask about meeting her mother because she should not be out with me if her family does not know who I am. This makes them think that this guy must be really serious about me.

But as the point has been made before, if you do not live there, are not a frequent visitor, do not speak Spanish, then stick to the pros. Women are pretty much the same the world around. If they are not pros then they generally are not going to take to and fuck some random Joe that just pops up from out of nowhere no matter how poor and needy they may be.

A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.

I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!

This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"

News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl!

Por ejempleo: I was at some mall having lunch with my novia and a few table over there was this FBCG with a very pretty chick in her mid 20's maybe early 30's. From what I could hear it was a first date (year of being a bartender and waiter I can spot a first date a mile away) This clown goes ". We can live in a nice big house. Blah blah blah" and the goes ". I already live in a nice house." and he looks all stupid and what not and all he has to say back to her was ". No I mean like an even BIGGER house!" All this FBCG had to say or offer this girl, his only bait was that he had money, when she didn't need or come off as needing his money he had no other bullets in his gun. I dated a semi-pro for a few months. Friend of a Friends.

If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.

See below for a list of things you will need if you do want to date non pros in Colombia and pretty much the entire world including the states, use this as a road map / laundry list for all the NEWBIES so ya'll can STOP asking the same 10 questions over and over and over. Oh and use the search function, it's there for a reason.

No Specific Order:

1) Reasonably Handsome: Good looking dude pull fine ass bitches. Simple truth. If you are Tall, Dark, and Handsome then stop reading this list. Handsome trumps all else. If you're a good looking dude pussy will find you! If you're not handsome put your best foot forward and hope for the best.

2) Personality / Charming: You can't change your looks but you can control your attitude. I write this or something like this in almost all my posts because it's true and if you did not know this before. Then you have no game! Be Cool, be Nice, be Funny, stay Positive!

3) Language Skills: Are you kidding me? When I read the posts where some clown says "I speak little to no Spanish will I have a problem meeting non pros?" YES! Imagine going to a job interview and not speaking English. Same shit.

4) Time: Have to put your time in, you have to make the girl feel comfortable with you, time does the trick if you have it. You can't rush these things; women of all countries hate to be rushed. Once again if this is news to you then YOU HAVE NO GAME! If you don't have time then jump in a cab and head to the working girl house.

5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.

I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.

Play the game don't get played.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1186544]Exceptional Post sir! I just posted a post with a similar tone. I would love your feedback![/QUOTE]In your earlier post you said that we are getting tired of answering the same 10 questions. I think you, and me, and most of the senior guys here are at the breaking point on this matter. I see post after post where we answer the same question over, and over. Example [ Is there a Help type disco in MDE? } or { Where can I meet Non pro's? }.

Colombia is reaching the breaking point concerning P4P. I see at the airport now more, and more Mongers. On the plane if I sit near them I am constainly reminding them to keep their voices down as they are getting all excited talking about the upcoming Chicas they are going to be seeing. They don't seem to realize that a lot of people on that plane speak English. I think what bothers me most about this is some of these clowns don't care if they are overheard talking this trash.

On another note. If you are getting your passport filled up, and are running out of room you can try this. When entering the Country of your choice it is wise to ask the officer who stamps your passport to stamp on a page where there are already many stamps. All the times I have asked this I have not been disapointed. I think the reason they comply is the stamp is only a formality as when they run your passport thru their computor, that is all that is really needed.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1186801]A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.

I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.[/QUOTE]You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you on disagreeing with me. Hahhaha. I'm trying to keep this light and not to start a full beef iwth EstebanH.

You claim is that "The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair". Your argument is that money will make a person more attractive to smarter / a better quality of woman? ON WHAT PLANET? What dream or drugs are you basing this claim on? Game or Swagger is confidence by definition, you can call it charisma or charm or the gift of gab if you are of the older generation.

If you're of advanced age and you have no "Game" (handsome, funny, charming, speak the language if applicable) and you have a 20+ year old super sexy pretty young thing on your arm there is only one thing she's there for SECURITY! South America or China or The States a gold digger is a gold digger. Your money makes her feel secure, car, food, rooms, shelter, cloths, expenses. Ect; that is why you are there! You take away the "success and power" and you got an old dude with nothing going for him. A poor handsome guy is still going to be handsome.

"The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy."

Here again you argue that it is $$$ what will get you "the very best hot latin pussy" NO SHIT? If I'm rich chicks will want to spend my money. Err. I mean time with me? Really?

You can lose money, you can lose power and influence. Your looks will fade but you can retain some of your looks or adapt / age gracefully (all the Movie Stars are in their 45-55 and are still considered very handsome so guys it can be done) and you will and can NEVER LOSE YOUR PERSONALITY! If you're a funny, cool, guy now chances are you'll continue to be so when you're 50+. You might lose your looks but you can keep your game (ONCE again GAME=Charm / Charisma)

(True story I'm holding back the name of the team but the team is in Cali)

Take the owner of the a Pro basket ball team X. He has this super pretty 20+ year old girlfriend who keeps him company, spends time with him, they fly around the world together on trips, she may or may not fuck him (this I don't know) and makes him feel good / young. He keeps her in a the life and light of fame and celebrity his money provides. Fair trade right? Truth be told This girl who I have met on several occasions and is a very smart, pretty, and nice girl; she is getting stuffed by my buddy who is originally from Hawaii who lives in Cali now. My buddy does not own a Pro Basketball team, he does not keep her in her life style, he does not cast a light of celebrity on to her but for some STRANGE and UNKNOWN reason she likes to suck his balls and get her ass slapped and hair pulled by him anyway during doggie. Odd how a 30+ year old surfer guy with 1% body fat living, dirty blond hair, and crushing blue eyes and who lives a "humble" life in Cali can get laid to THE SAME EXACT chick the owner of a pro basketball team calls his girlfriend!

Chances are Mr. Basketball will not lose all his money becasue he has so much of it. If we were to ask him how much pussy he's had in his life vs how much Mr. Surfer has had in his? I'll put my money and lay good odds on Mr. Surfer because he's a funny cool dude who is ALSO GOOD LOOKING!

Let's do a little social experiment: We'll take any "50+ year old successful and powerful" guy who VS 30+ year old handsome guy with good language skills and "game" and put them in ANY SOCIAL situation you want and let's see who ends up getting a phone number, who gets a date, and who ends up getting laid?

Mr."doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy " might have paid for the Chicas to get into the club, paid for their bottle of booze, and even the dress she got on and the shoes on her feet but it is Mr. Cool-Funny-Nice-Fun Guy who is dancing with the girls as you keep the ice cubes cold.

When you spend all your time focusing on money that's all you end up with; Money. When you focus your time on trying to be a better person you end up with. Wait for it. A BETTER PERSON! Who would you rater have fly your wing at a bar or night club? Mr. I make 6 o 7 figures or Mr. Let's do a round of shots with those girls? Oh and a round of shots does not cost a million bucks so the young soon to be ". Past your prime you will look like shit and have no money." guy can still afford to buy the round especially in a SA country but can the rich guy be as cool, funny, charming?

How about making a new thread for newbies' questions, so members who are kind will answer the questions? Good idea?

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1186819]In your earlier post you said that we are getting tired of answering the same 10 questions. I think you, and me, and most of the senior guys here are at the breaking point on this matter. I see post after post where we answer the same question over, and over. Example [ Is there a Help type disco in MDE? } or { Where can I meet Non pro's? }.[/QUOTE]

I agree w / everything here except one. It seems that Paisa girls or Colombianas in general, like "white" handsome guys w / light skin.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!

This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"

News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl!

Por ejempleo: I was at some mall having lunch with my novia and a few table over there was this FBCG with a very pretty chick in her mid 20's maybe early 30's. From what I could hear it was a first date (year of being a bartender and waiter I can spot a first date a mile away) This clown goes ". We can live in a nice big house. Blah blah blah" and the goes ". I already live in a nice house." and he looks all stupid and what not and all he has to say back to her was ". No I mean like an even BIGGER house!" All this FBCG had to say or offer this girl, his only bait was that he had money, when she didn't need or come off as needing his money he had no other bullets in his gun. I dated a semi-pro for a few months. Friend of a Friends.

If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.

See below for a list of things you will need if you do want to date non pros in Colombia and pretty much the entire world including the states, use this as a road map / laundry list for all the NEWBIES so ya'll can STOP asking the same 10 questions over and over and over. Oh and use the search function, it's there for a reason.

No Specific Order:

1) Reasonably Handsome: Good looking dude pull fine ass bitches. Simple truth. If you are Tall, Dark, and Handsome then stop reading this list. Handsome trumps all else. If you're a good looking dude pussy will find you! If you're not handsome put your best foot forward and hope for the best.

2) Personality / Charming: You can't change your looks but you can control your attitude. I write this or something like this in almost all my posts because it's true and if you did not know this before. Then you have no game! Be Cool, be Nice, be Funny, stay Positive!

3) Language Skills: Are you kidding me? When I read the posts where some clown says "I speak little to no Spanish will I have a problem meeting non pros?" YES! Imagine going to a job interview and not speaking English. Same shit.

4) Time: Have to put your time in, you have to make the girl feel comfortable with you, time does the trick if you have it. You can't rush these things; women of all countries hate to be rushed. Once again if this is news to you then YOU HAVE NO GAME! If you don't have time then jump in a cab and head to the working girl house.

5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.

I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.

Play the game don't get played.[/QUOTE]

I think psychologists call it biases in representation and illusion, and ordinary people call it sore loser.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1186801]A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.

I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186828]You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you on disagreeing with me. Hahhaha. I'm trying to keep this light and not to start a full beef iwth EstebanH.

You claim is that "The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair". Your argument is that money will make a person more attractive to smarter / a better quality of woman? ON WHAT PLANET? What dream or drugs are you basing this claim on? Game or Swagger is confidence by definition, you can call it charisma or charm or the gift of gab if you are of the older generation.[/QUOTE]My Dos Centavos. You both have extremely valid points. The issue is your talking about two different parts of the game, two different beasts. Both types (Older / distinguised / experienced/$$game vs. Younger / Yoked Out / Handsome / Broke as a Joke Game) have pros and cons. The surfer / cool guy has the Game of Youth and Good Looks; The Other has the Game of Wisdom and Experience and C. R. E. A. M. (Cash Rules Everything Around Me, WuTang Major Hit Song). One guy is getting pussy thrown at him left and right, the other guy is buying people, assets, countries, etc, ballin out of control, a major shot caller in life.

The older guy can pull BREEZIES all over the world, the younger guy only in his immediate vicinity owing to CASH FLOW issues. The real winner is the sexy, fly woman banging them both, loyal to neither; She has the best of both worlds. Both guys can taste it, most likely neither can hold on to her in the long run. And the irony there, her game will drop as the years kick in, at 40 she'll be a HAS BEEN, with kids, and stretch marks, and getting played by her HUBBY who'll be TAXING another 20 year old. The GAME don't stop, we will all have to improve on our weaknesses before the little blue pill stops working as well, and when that day comes, that' ll be a damn shame.

If you really think about it, neither mix works at the end of the day, only the combination of both.

HAS ANYBODY EVER SEEN THE US TV SHOW CALLED THE MILLIONAIRE MATCHMAKER? Its relevant, because these CATS have no game, not in the US, not in Colombia, not anywhere; hence the demand for this anal-bitchy lady to match up these OBSESSED WORKAHOLIC LOSERS with Millions. If they had any pride (orgullo) , they would OPEN their mouths and give the game of LOVE a shot; or go to the local casas or escort services nearby. Pretty pathetic actually. Hence, all the money in the world won't change your personality or improve YOUR game substantially if you can't hold a conversation, when it is so lacking, as all of those LOSERS are so socially deficient. Anybody can pull up to a hot chick in a Red Ferrari, you still have to get them in the car and have them WILLINGLY drop their panties of their own free will.

Conclusion IMHO, as the earlier posts have mentioned, LOOK IN THE MIRROR, address one's weaknesses, and attack them on a daily basis to be in a constant state of improvement, because from what I've learned when it comes to MONEY, LOOKS, and PERSONALITY, the last item is the only one that can stand on their own. The two example types (OLDER MAN / YOUNG STUD) both have game but are lacking as well, and the Millionaire Matchmaker Losers are lacking in all three AREAS. Peace

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1186856]I agree w / everything here except one. It seems that Paisa girls or Colombianas in general, like "white" handsome guys w / light skin.[/QUOTE]Con ojos claros.