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[QUOTE=Huacho;2654031]Whereas any and all vax refusers are selfish assholes, current military who refuse are just unfathomable because they signed all those rights away when they enlisted. Retired military like you know this, and are just woofing because you're black and Tuskegee and yada fucken yada.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure he's not retired military. At a guess, he did the minimum required 8 years and got out to get away from all the people laughing at him.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654057]Cue JjBabbleOn entering to talk about how my entire day was a lie and to tell how it really went.[/QUOTE]Make that 3 bitchy little passive-aggressive posts. How's that cousin of yours who got blood clots from the AstraZeneca vaccine which has never been authorized for use in the US?
How about the miracle Mexican chick, who had 2 separate Covid infections in less than a month?
You know, if you didn't make shit up all the time, I wouldn't be calling you out for making shit up. You're the one who can stop the cycle. However, that would require the truth from you and that's probably not happening anytime soon.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654281]Ok you are changing up your argument to now say you believe vaccinated people are not contagious when they get covid. So the selfish assholes should get vaccinated so they will not be contagious to you. So the vaccine makes covid stay inside of the host. Yeah, best place for you seems to be the basement.[/QUOTE]He didn't change his argument. It's a pretty simple argument which is probably beyond your ability to understand.
85% or more of hospitalizations for COVID are among the unvaccinated. If you're unvaccinated, haven't had a previous case of Covid, you're much more likely to end up taking up a bed at a hospital. Don't worry, they have beds for short, fat people.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2654180]You don't seem to be applying the same rational to your arguments. You said not having vax is selfish bcos it clogs up health system (thus denying other people access to critical health care).
So I asked you if you though my short list of items wer also selfish for the same reason. But then you switched argument and attacked them for different reasons, when that was not the question I put to you. So I ask again.
A person that does no exercise, a person that has a bad diet, a motorcycle rider, a smoker, a drug user, a person that fks girls without condoms, . Everyone that assesses a personal risk and decides its acceptable for themselves and the health system, is a selfish arsehole or not, for accepting the possibility that they might clog up the healthcare system? If not, then please name the trait that differentiates them.
Please answer straight. You are not allowed to attack them for other reasons. That is called DEFLECTING.
I wathced this short video last night, and it could not have been more appropriate:.[/QUOTE]Motorcycles- 79,000 injuries and 5,000 deaths, per year.
COVID - 2 days ago, 150,000 hospitalized, 2,000 deaths per day.
Bad diet and smokers. These two things generally take many years to cause health issues which require hospitalization. Getting infected with Covid takes a few seconds. And contrary to Mr 13 LSS (13 Letter Shit Spreader), getting a test immediately after exposure won't show you anything.
Drug users are the only class which applies.
People who don't use condoms? Urinary tract infections and STIs can mostly be treated without hospitalization.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2654369]Actually, until you pointed out the other aspect, my thinking it was helping the hospital system simply by not spreading infections to other patients and health care workers. But you're correct it taxes the system by denying access as well. I just never said that, about denying access.[/QUOTE]It's all the same thing. If I caught the virus, I could end up in hospital and clog up the health system. I could infect nurses and clog up the health system. I coudl give it other patients and clog up the health system. It all uses the health system and potentially denies access for others.
Just like if I drive a car, I could have an accident and clog up the health system, I miight hit a nurse and clog up the health system. I might cause another driver to have injuries and clog up the health system. All this uses the health system and potentially denies access for others.
So what is the difference? With the virus one could argue there is less risk bcos the nurse and patient should have a vax, right?
It has been 2 years. 2 years of me not infecting anyone. 2 years of vaxd people catching the virus and spreading it to others. 2 years of BS lies which you are slowly waking up to. The vax does nothing except help the weak to protect themselves. Well, many other things can do that. What a pussy vax. No thanks.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2654569]It's all the same thing. If I caught the virus, I could end up in hospital and clog up the health system. I could infect nurses and clog up the health system. I coudl give it other patients and clog up the health system. It all uses the health system and potentially denies access for others.
Just like if I drive a car, I could have an accident and clog up the health system, I miight hit a nurse and clog up the health system. I might cause another driver to have injuries and clog up the health system. All this uses the health system and potentially denies access for others.
So what is the difference? With the virus one could argue there is less risk bcos the nurse and patient should have a vax, right?
It has been 2 years. 2 years of me not infecting anyone. 2 years of vaxd people catching the virus and spreading it to others. 2 years of BS lies which you are slowly waking up to. The vax does nothing except help the weak to protect themselves. Well, many other things can do that. What a pussy vax. No thanks.[/QUOTE]Given that there is asymptomatic transmission, you, in fact, have no idea how many people you have infected (nor do I). That's just one of the many things you don't understand. So fuck all unvaccinated assholes, particularly those who choose to travel, and even more particularly those using fake documents.
That's all I have to say on this subject.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2654569]It's all the same thing. If I caught the virus, I could end up in hospital and clog up the health system. I could infect nurses and clog up the health system. I coudl give it other patients and clog up the health system. It all uses the health system and potentially denies access for others.
Just like if I drive a car, I could have an accident and clog up the health system, I miight hit a nurse and clog up the health system. I might cause another driver to have injuries and clog up the health system. All this uses the health system and potentially denies access for others.
So what is the difference? With the virus one could argue there is less risk bcos the nurse and patient should have a vax, right?
It has been 2 years. 2 years of me not infecting anyone. 2 years of vaxd people catching the virus and spreading it to others. 2 years of BS lies which you are slowly waking up to. The vax does nothing except help the weak to protect themselves. Well, many other things can do that. What a pussy vax. No thanks.[/QUOTE]They are all the same but I think you forgot to mention that after you hit the nurse, the nurse is going to hit the doctor, then the doctor is going to hit the patient, and the cycle continues, LOL.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2654624]They are all the same but I think you forgot to mention that after you hit the nurse, the nurse is going to hit the doctor, then the doctor is going to hit the patient, and the cycle continues, LOL.[/QUOTE]Only if you accept that you have a vax that doesn't work. Only if you have chosen an ineffective vax instead of natural immunity.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2654506]1. How did your cousin get blood clots from0 a vaccine which has never been authorized for use in the US?[/QUOTE]Sorry BabbleOn. I told you that I don't read all that shit you babble on about. It was the Pfizer clot shot that affected my cousin. Has that one been authorized for use in the USA? I quoted from Elvis's post, which did not mention a particular name brand.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2654523]And contrary to Mr 13 LSS (13 Letter Shit Spreader), getting a test immediately after exposure won't show you anything.[/QUOTE]Hehehehe. I have not been worried about covid in the last 2 years and you actually believe I would be taking a test because I fucked a chick. The real stuff I write you say is fake and the joking shit I write you take as the truth. I took the test because it is required by Slow Biden to get on a plane entering the USA, not because of the chick. Duhhh.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2654607]Given that there is asymptomatic transmission, you, in fact, have no idea how many people you have infected (nor do I). That's just one of the many things you don't understand. So fuck all unvaccinated assholes, particularly those who choose to travel, and even more particularly those using fake documents.
That's all I have to say on this subject.[/QUOTE]Given that you said "people with prior infections and no vax did better than people with vax and no prior infection, in terms of infection rate" - surely its you that is a selfish arsehole by getting a vax when you sohuld have gone for natural immunity.
And I choose to travel so that I can donate some sperm and money to poor families. Surely its you that is a selfish arsehole by choosing to stay at home thinking that your protecting yourself.
That's all I have to say on this subject.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2654513]How about the miracle Mexican chick, who had 2 separate Covid infections in less than a month?[/QUOTE]Mf I do not know. You think I am sitting around arguing with chicks I am fucking or trying to fuck about their medical records? I will give you her phone number if you want to call and argue with her about it. I could give a fuck less if she got gangrene in the same month as that other shit. I am not a doctor or virologist, nor am I trying to be. I am a lover.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654752]Mf I do not know. You think I am sitting around arguing with chicks I am fucking or trying to fuck about their medical records? I will give you her phone number if you want to call and argue with her about it. I could give a fuck less if she got gangrene in the same month as that other shit. I am not a doctor or virologist, nor am I trying to be. I am a lover.[/QUOTE]Jajaja, but so is JujeBee, and so am I. Keep on Keepin' On. Free advice is generally worth just what you pay for it, but I would suggest you both stop calling each other out and give it a rest because your issues are getting clouded by what seems to be emotional anger statements.
This is the perfect example of why you should stop just making shit up. Because you end up forgetting the shit you fabricated and make yourself look even stupider.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654752]Mf I do not know. You think I am sitting around arguing with chicks I am fucking or trying to fuck about their medical records? I will give you her phone number if you want to call and argue with her about it. I could give a fuck less if she got gangrene in the same month as that other shit. I am not a doctor or virologist, nor am I trying to be. I am a lover.[/QUOTE]Let me refresh your memory. You started with this:
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2626604]Meanwhile I am talking to a Mexican chick that has been vaccinated and is currently on her second bout with covid in 1 month.[/QUOTE]Which I gave you an opportunity to back out of by that just because someone says something it doesn't make it true. That was a test. You failed. Your reply was:
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2627136]Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.[/QUOTE]A person who is basically honest, when caught in a lie, will usually take an opportunity to back away without admitting to the lie. However, a dishonest person, one who lies constantly, will make up more lies to cover the original lie.
Keep on making up your silly shit and I'll keep on calling you out.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2654715]Sorry BabbleOn. I told you that I don't read all that shit you babble on about. It was the Pfizer clot shot that affected my cousin. Has that one been authorized for use in the USA? I quoted from Elvis's post, which did not mention a particular name brand.
Hehehehe. I have not been worried about covid in the last 2 years and you actually believe I would be taking a test because I fucked a chick. The real stuff I write you say is fake and the joking shit I write you take as the truth. I took the test because it is required by Slow Biden to get on a plane entering the USA, not because of the chick. Duhhh.[/QUOTE]You just keep on shooting yourself in the foot don't you? You make it so simple to show how full of shit you are. Before I get to showing how full of shit you are, just an editorial comment. You rarely write real stuff, so it's not too difficult to point out your bullshit.
Let's get to the business of you making a fool of yourself again.
The post you replied to, from Elvis, included a partial quote from my post. As the attached screenshot shows, the AstraZeneca vaccine is mentioned and rather hard to miss.
It gets even funnier when you decide, after failing to realize you had fucked up by claiming your cousin got blood clots from a vaccine she couldn't have received, to claim she got them from the Pfizer vaccine. If you had not been so fucking stupid, you could have made up that your cousin had gotten the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. There have been 57 instances of thrombosis in the 18 million people who received the J&J vaccine. However, between the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines there have only been 20 reported cases from over 700 million doses. That's extremely low odds. Ridiculously low odds. The equivalent would be having 10 people in your family who have won a lottery jackpot.
Fuck lockdowns. Fuck vaccine mandates. Fuck false statistics about vaccine effectiveness. Fuck the divisiveness and toxicity of American politics. Let people be free in their "pursuit of happiness."