Moscow

Guys,

I have seen here lot of good reports on Aurora 911.
I prefer to stick to Bordo as there is plenty of girls, firnedly attitude, good quality.
For those who can compare both clubs, would you consider Aurora better than Bordo?

[QUOTE=Passepartout]Guys,

I have seen here lot of good reports on Aurora 911.
I prefer to stick to Bordo as there is plenty of girls, firnedly attitude, good quality.
For those who can compare both clubs, would you consider Aurora better than Bordo?[/QUOTE]

Never been to Bordo but will be back in Moscow the week of July 19th and will take it upon myself to do some research.

Where's Bordo again?

Well since we are headed for a show-down, I might as well weigh in with my visit(s) to Aurora 911 last week.

My first visit to 911 was after a rather tantalizing dinner with a 26 year old sales person who works for a Russian colleague of mine. Fortunately we don't work for the same company so there's no bread / meat issues. (Not like that ever stopped some of us before - but I digress). He wanted us to meet because this spicy little Muscovite speak quite reasonable English an want to get some practice. Since it was a first dinner, I met this little bimbette and Dimitry at Goodman's down at Tulskaya where we enjoyed some banter and a little sexual innuendo in both Russian and English. About 10 PM Dimitry begged off as he had an early meeting. As it turned out Olga lives near Mayakovskaya so I suggested we share a cab. Yada, yada, yada - we had a few drinks but she had to work the next day so we wrapped things up by midnight without any sex. After all it was only a first meeting.

By 12:30 I was down at Aurora 911. It was a Tuesday night so I certainly did not expect anything too spectacular. I walked in, paid my 800 rubles, paid homage to the butt crack of the Asian looking hostess wearing the dress that is cut low in the back and followed her into the main floor lounge. Being the distinguished 50+ gentleman that I am she gave me an opportunity to go upstairs to the restaurant which I declined. And as she had her hand on the door to the entrance, she asked me "you know this is a strip club don't you". I laughed and replied "Davaytse - padyom".

She led me to the bar and sat me down there because it was the only free seat in the house. The place was pretty full and the flag dance had just started. I was mesmerized as the parade of naked bodies crammed onto the stage. The girls flanking the bar on mini stages had their own flags and were waving them proudly as their pert nipples saluted the crowd. And unlike the Safari Lodge of old, these gals were totally nekked. Beautiful sleek bodies with clean shaven pussies all exposed for my viewing pleasure. With all the activity, I didn't notice what was going on behind the bar and when I spun round to order a beer I was staring face to face with the cutest pair of C-cups I had seen all day. No one mentioned that the female bartenders were topless!!!!!! Such a deal!!!!!!!

After the flag dance, the girls started to circulate. This is the part that usually throws me off at strip clubs because you don't get a chance to scope things out and get hit upon by every girl before you can focus on what you want. Before you know it you burn through 2,000 rubles. I noticed a partially dressed girl sitting a few bar stools down whom I guess to be available for sex and nodded hello. Truthfully, she appeared to be a bit of a stick up "bee-atch" but she served the purpose. By sitting next to her and pretending to engage in conversation the "rodizio" of girls sort of passed me by temporarily and allowed me to observe.

Her name was Fiona and she was a dark haired beauty of about 26 and over six feet tall with her heels on. Certainly not fat but certainly a big girl. She said that sex was available for 10k rubles - love it or shove it. Obviously I declined and bought her a Red Bull as consolation. We chit chatted about some of the other girls and she offered some opinions about them waving over one or two to give me a dance. This turned out to be a good strategy because I have heard reports before that on some nights you can't GET a dance money or not. Fiona was waving down the ones I liked and asked them to dance for me. Heck of a deal.

After some time, there was a big hoopla and all of a sudden a half dozen of the waitresses (most of whom are stunning I might add) stripped off their tops and climbed on the bar and started dancing - again, heck of a deal. I looked around and ALL of the waitresses had their tops off. I was REALLY starting to like this place. But then how could you NOT? Once the waitresses were off the bar and the halter tops were all properly back in place, Fiona dropped her cover up, got naked ad asked me to get up on the dance floor for a waltz. I hesitated for a moment and then realized that I was not alone as some of the other girls were leading guys up to dance. Come to think of it, we were all about 50+ so it must have been the "ask a geezer to dance" portion of the program. Fiona was a good half a head taller than me in her platform heels and it felt like her firm tits were going to poke one my eyes out any minute now. But something was amiss - Fiona was grinding. not something I usually get from a strip bar girl. Clearly she was angling for a "fare" and was determined to lure me into the cabine in the back.

When the song was over, we sat back at the bar and she told me that it was her turn to dance on stage. Good thing because I was starting to get turned on. But for 10k rubles? Come on. Fantasys was right on the way back to the apartment so there were certainly cheaper ways to accomplish the same thing. After her dance she disappeared from the stage and I decided I need to make my move and hit the road. But before I was able to get my bill, she was back in front of me. It was her turn to dance for me and she was dancing with a vengeance. Two songs went by before I realized that I was racking up quite a little dance bill with her. I remember Pizdyets reporting that it's about 40 seconds for a 100 rubles. If a normal song is 3.5 minutes and we were past two songs then I was approaching 10 dances. I was getting pretty drunk but I did the arithmetic and decided that this dance was getting out of hand and tapped her on the ass saying that was enough dancing. She spun around and got very close telling me the Russian equivalent of, "Look, my husband left me a month ago, I am a dental student with no money, I have been working here for two weeks with no trick so far, so management is pissed off at me, most of the other girls don't seem to like me and I have not had sex for 3 months so if you think you are getting out of here without fucking me - think again".

Truth? Fiction? Who cares? I took a deep breath, coughed up the 10k (against ALL better judgment) and followed her to the back room. Once inside the room she showered while I undressed and then I went in for a quick rinse. When I came out she was on the bed with her legs spread and playing with herself. She had that pouty "come fuck me" look on her face. And fuck her I did.

Yikes - this was anger sex. This was vengeance sex. There was some real rage there that was struggling to get out and boy did it get out. I normally like the petite little spinners so this was a real departure for me. We did every position in the Kama Sutra and then a few more that I am sure she just made up on the spot. This was sport fucking extraordinaire. There was some REAL emotion there that had some thing to do with her husband I am sure. When the call / knock (can't remember which) we were still hard at it. I relented and she insisted that I keep on. I don't know how much longer we kept at it but a SECOND knock came with some yelling that certainly did not sound pleasant. Luckily we wrapped things up quickly after that :) We both did quick rinses and I scrambled to get dressed for fear of getting hauled out of there in my underwear. Yeah, right like that's gonna happen ;)

When we got back to the bar, it was about 4 AM. I ordered one more drink and asked for bill. Fiona came by for a kiss goodbye and reminded me that I still owed her for the dances. I laughed and said I would pay her for those dances later in the week. She grinned and told me she would be waiting.

Following Strav's example from a few weeks back, I walked back to my apartment in the early morning light. As I collapsed into bed after struggling with the black out curtains I thought about the 10k rubles and rather silly thing I had just done for one hour of sex. Was I REALLY her first "trick" since on the job? Had her husband REALLY just left her? Well, if I wasn't and he didn't, then she is one hell of an actress and a performance like THAT is probably worth the 10k rubles. Stimulation. Fornication. Rationalization.

[QUOTE=It Travel]There are at least 100 outstanding places in Moscow, but at least you have to wear tie, and go there speaking some Russian... ;) :D
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I've debated this with many mongers. Suit or no suit? I've scored both ways of course, but like ZZ Top famously said "every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man", and it's more-so in Moscow these days because suit usually infers job which infers $s. But wearing stylish club clothes also implies $s, so it's not a hard-fast rule. I did find that I got totally ignored at Aurora when I was NOT wearing a suit. Go figure.

Of course speaking the local lingo is always a plus.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]I've debated this with many mongers. Suit or no suit? I've scored both ways of course, but like ZZ Top famously said "every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man", and it's more-so in Moscow these days because suit usually infers job which infers $s. But wearing stylish club clothes also implies $s, so it's not a hard-fast rule. I did find that I got totally ignored at Aurora when I was NOT wearing a suit. Go figure.

Of course speaking the local lingo is always a plus.[/QUOTE]

You are totally right! I am different because I prefer home grown next door girls.... catched on the net! ;)

IT

I was only giving 100 to 300 rubles for an entire song and the girls kept coming back so... I don't want to be cheap but I don't like overpaying and raising the bar for others either. What are other people giving?

[QUOTE=Jake993]I remember Pizdyets reporting that it's about 40 seconds for a 100 rubles. If a normal song is 3.5 minutes and we were past two songs then I was approaching 10 dances.[/QUOTE]

Hello Hello
I trust all is well.
Sorry to hear about the demise of Shandra and the old Safari,
they were great. A while back at what was after Chesterfields before
it became Hot Dogs i met a 9 and she tool me to this plush building with short
stay rooms and spas etc. It was a wonderful option and well priced.
Do any know of any short stay options within central area?
Prehaps the new Safari may just rent out upstairs rooms for 1 hour?
Thank you for info.
Cheers Nickc

That is just the luck, or the unluck, of everyone, different men could have different results with the same woman (or place).

I was the first here to report about new 911 Aurora. The day after I went to Bordo and there I found the most pushy girl in the world and I had to escape away in few minutes.

Moreover in 911 Aurora I didn't need to wear a suit, just a nice shirt, a nice pants and nice shoes.

So, each man re-writes the history in a different way.

[QUOTE=Passepartout]Guys,

I have seen here lot of good reports on Aurora 911.

I prefer to stick to Bordo as there is plenty of girls, firnedly attitude, good quality.
For those who can compare both clubs, would you consider Aurora better than Bordo?[/QUOTE]

To answer to the question regarding how much to give to the girl when she dances for you:

- if the girl keeps her cloths and refuses that you touch her breast: 100 RUR
Some of the girl are doing this and say "order a private dance if you want to touch". Si I give 100 RUR, she usually is really surprised and start to argue but I do not give anyhting else.

- if the girl is OK, in her attitude, you can softly touch , etc... I give 200 RUR and never received complaints for that

- sometimes something is happening with the girl; she stays more longer, and there is honestly almost no difference with a private dance. In that case I can give 300 RUR and the girl usually is really happy.

It might sound generous but when I go to Bordo, it is not to fuck a girl for 10K, it is for the pleasure to see and touch many beautiful breast in 1 night. Girls speaks together and if you do not give too much money, then, the girls will rarely go to see you.

Bordo is located in the city center, somewhere between Lubianka and Taganskaya - I don't have the exact address, sorry.


Appart from that, I move recently from Taganskaya to an appartment located...50 meters from Hod Dog...! I guess it will be hard to avoid this place for me...

Just browsed rusdosug.com and got curious why so many of the girls there are black? A year or two ago I think 5-10 black girls was on that web site, now it's more like a few hundred.

Is it just this one web site or has the scene changed? Unfortunately I lack time and money to do thorough empirical research on this. Maybe you gentlemen have more info than I do.

Are the girls on this web site representative for the general selection in Moscow? Are the numbers of foreign girls working in Moscow also increasing for other than black girls? (I mean, the ones you can't tell from a picture if they are Russian or not). If yes, wtf is going on?

Cheers

I was able to dig up this address for Bordo but haven't verified.

Bordo, 4 Pevchesky Per., Metro: Kitai-Gorod, Tel. 917-4545
[url]http://www.bordoclub.ru/[/url]


[QUOTE=Passepartout]
Bordo is located in the city center, somewhere between Lubianka and Taganskaya - I don't have the exact address, sorry.
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[QUOTE=Nickc]Hello Hello
I trust all is well.
Sorry to hear about the demise of Shandra and the old Safari,
they were great. A while back at what was after Chesterfields before
it became Hot Dogs i met a 9 and she tool me to this plush building with short
stay rooms and spas etc. It was a wonderful option and well priced.
Do any know of any short stay options within central area?
Prehaps the new Safari may just rent out upstairs rooms for 1 hour?
Thank you for info.
Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]

Just go to any Sauna you se... and it's done. No real hour time hotels in Moscow... OVIR etc etc

Does anybody think that Moscow is a good place for a visible minority from Canada/America?

I am East Indian but I talk with an American accent. And white girls here tend to find me handsome. And I have fairly great income relative to my age (24) here (and would be fairly wealthy there I assume).

Basically I want to meet and have sexual relations with hot blonde girls, without all the garbage I have to deal with in North America. Spending a fortune dating a girl that probably already has a half dozen boyfriends and has no loyalty. Even investing so much time and effort just getting a girl to go out with you.

I only speak english, but I would like to know whether the race is a big barrier there compared to in North America where I already sort of feel like I am beginning with a big disadvantage that I need to overcome each time (I still date hot blondes typically, but know it would be much easier if I was white and equally attractive).

[QUOTE=Crack Baby]Does anybody think that Moscow is a good place for a visible minority from Canada/America?

I am East Indian but I talk with an American accent. And white girls here tend to find me handsome. And I have fairly great income relative to my age (24) here (and would be fairly wealthy there I assume).[/QUOTE]Hard to say, why don't you come and try it out?

I have some friends in your position (Indian but raised in America and decently wealthy as well as good looking and young) and they do quite well in Moscow. That said, I wouldn't try going to the provinces. The race card mixed with being American (culturally/linguistically if not by citizenship) will certainly pique Russian girls' curiosity but you'll have to get good at transitioning that curiosity into romance (something white foreigners don't have to deal with). Certainly they will be more curious about you and you will stand out in clubs, etc.

I think you will find some girls will be all over you because of your race, some will absolutely refuse to talk to you because of your race, and some will have boyfriends who will want to kill you because of your race.

All in all I think it could work in your favor as long as you are smart about how you play your cards. Go for that first group (curious girls) which you should find at clubs and cafes in Moscow and Piter, but avoid bars and I wouldn't leave Moscow without some friends.

Aurora 911 vs. Bordo

In the interest of the mongering public I have done some research on a Saturday night around 2am.

BLUF: I spent 30 minutes at Bordo and 3+ hours at Aurora 911. Bordo wasn't bad but 911 was great.

Bordo:
1000 entrance.
Smaller than Aurora 911.
Better furniture (nice relaxing couches)
15 to 20 girls. All Good looking.
No problem getting attention from the girls
Boring stage dancing. I didn't see the dancing girl get naked.

Aurora 911:
1000 entrance (new price they claim)
Bigger than Bordo (I like this)
Girls dancing at several stages
20+ girls (hot to smoking hot)
Dyevs: Young, smooth, thin, firm, pert (everything I love)
The Bordo girls weren't bad but some of the Aurora girls were amazing!
No problem getting attention from the girls
Excellent stage dancing will full nudity.
Several girls walking around completely naked.
Inspiring (yes, inspiring) performances on the pole
Mass performances every hour
Good service from waitresses, every place has a little push button that you press when you need something. Fast response in getting a drink, change, cigarettes, lighter, whatever.

To whoever is going to complain about the price. Yes, yes, I know. Neither of these places is about the cheapest sex you can get with the prettiest girl. It's about the show, the temptation, and the sheer beauty of being surrounded by perky, bouncy, Austin Powers Fembots for hours on end. Sorry, they just don't have that at a salon.