2006 Bangkok Reports

[quote=buledaddy]that new giant aquarium airport theme is to commemorate all the fishbowl mps in bangkok. the place cannot survive without farhang p4p money. thai mtv had a special parady showing some old british geezer handing over all his money to some pooying. this was thai propaganda to instill pride in the pooying that rents her privates to support some thai man's drinking/gambling/drug habits. remember that when they throw rediculous inflated prices at you. this country is run by the thai man. they will always have a male pm and the head royalty will always be a man. the p4p business was set up for and by the thai man. you too are a man, and you too should be in control of your p4p venues. the girls on suk and the nana lot will st for 1kbht and not the 1.5k they are demanding! if they ask st or lt?, say up2u because they will stay for 1kbht. don't give them the cabfare they always demand after you blow you load. just tell them to get lost because if you give them 100bth they will want 200. if you give them 200 they will want 300. telling them to get lost in an angry way will save you a few bucks. i kicked out two trollups for not providing their services in bkk with very partial payment (100bht) and both threatend me with ass kicking from catooees or cops. i just physically pushed them out the door. i was back in the room 15 minutes later with girls that provided the services. remember that for each horny farhang there are 1,000 girls from isan ready to go. i never tipped anybody except the straight massage girl this last trip and i saved a bundle. they are getting more and more demanding and pushy, so you cannot back down with them. when you walk into a fishbowl and they throw an inflated price at you, turn around and walk out. you can shout at the girls. sometimes that is the only time they listen. the "save face" thing is really just for the men.[/quote]

look its true that some girls (usually not the good ones) try all sorts of tricks to get a bit extra, e.g. the taxi.
some girls will go with you because they are desperate for money. it doesn't mean that they will be in a good mood if they think the money is too low. others will suggest that you go wank yourself if the price is too low. these ones are usually superior looking girls who can get a customer easily.
anyway a girl in a good mood gives better service unless a guy just likes to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] girls.
most girls i go with don't even negotiate a price for st. but i always treat them fairly and they are always eager to come back for repeats if i should so choose.
i believe in paying a fair price depending on services rendered, e.g. how long it goes for and how good a time i had. so o.k. 1000 baht for a minimal session (say 30 minutes), but if i had an extended great session for 2 hours of sex play i would feel i was ripping her off with 1k baht.
in my own country 2 hours in a brothel would cost me 10000 baht, and could get it for 5000 baht in a private visit of a girl i know. i would therefore think 2k baht would be fair in bangkok, less in pattaya. for a long time i pay at least 3000, but may increase it depending on how many sessions and how good she was. if she was really bad, i would kick her out early and get someone else.

[QUOTE=Wendella]
Another thing: the search on this forum is no good. You can't bring up a post that has your answer, you have to read the whole thread. It's not functional.[/QUOTE]

That's not correct. You can elect to display posts.

My suggestion is that before you post a question you should read the last 10 pages to get a feel for the current situation.

Finally I am here!

I arrived yesterday and after dinner I went straight to Novotel disco.

Arond 11 p.m. was full, many russian girls and obviously a lot of thais.

I decided to go for Thai.

Looking around I saw one wonderful young lady looking at me, so I decided to approch. After a little talking we went to the business and I was shocked!

For LT she asked me 7000!

I remember your advices, I mean about the rates (3000/3500 LT) so I declined her.

At aroung 1.30 I found another sme level and after bargaining we agreed 3000 LT + benefits (If you are good I give you a gift, I promised).

Her name is MAy, 24 years old, and she wanted to get her bonus so she was really great.

Today I went for a thai massage (classic one) and this evening I will look for a nice freelance, maybe in Novotel, maybe in Nana disco.

Keep in touch tomorow

Grifone

[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]That's not correct. You can elect to display posts.
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OK I have to look at it again because I couldn't figure out how to do that.

Alright now I see. I was using advanced search thinking that one would be better and more refined. Wrong. If you just use the more basic Search This Thread, it displays ONLY the individual posts in only this thread that are relevant. It's strange that Advanced Search can't do the same thing.

The same guy who sent me a PM made a good point, suggesting I give the poster advice rather than go after them... I actually started to do that and lost that post before sending it, then got distracted the next time.

Anyway, I'm not nearly as familiar with BKK and Thailand as a lot of people here. But the one place in Bangkok where I saw lots of white WG was in CM2 disco in the bottom of the ... is it the Novotel? At Siam Square, just next to a sky train station. The disco is in the basement of the hotel. I think numbers there must go up and down -- one night I went there a few years back there were just a handful (5?) of Russians (I'll call them that, but they could be from other countries, dunno). The last time I went, about a year ago, there were many -- probably about 20-25 total. Possibly more than that. The problem was, not one looked very enticing. There are some other spots that get mentioned, like Grace on Soi 3, and Soi 3 street itself -- but every one I've seen over there was Very Rough. I can't speak for what's available in Pattaya, but I know they'd need to be a big step up from whats on offer in BKK if I was gonna be interested at all. So you may want to go check out CM2, but I wouldn't expect much. It'll probably be disappointing.

I heard there's a Russian-staffed go-go bar in Pattaya, but also that it's an all-out ripoff joint. No idea what the quality of those girls would be.

The FAQ is old but is still very accurate. How many newbies actually read it before posting - I suspect very few. And if you yourself, newbie or senior read it, you'll find many of the links, tips remain accurate to this day.

The reports of distinction include tons of information, maybe even too much....but again the classic by Phuquer, although several years old remains accurate. Places change, prices increase but the overall status in LOS has remained unchanged for years...that is one of the attractions of Bkk. Even if your interested in escort services, read a couple of the other posts - most of them are informative and took effort by others to post.

The LOS threads are the most active on the international threads of ISG - and yes there is more than enough chit chat (mine included). But that doesn't excuse lazy newbies from taking the time to do some basic reading before posting questions. ISG is no different than any other public board, except, IMHO guys here are more lazy and more prone to throw out a question before making even the slightest attempt to do a search.

And Thailand has the most number of threads so that there is an attempt by Jackson to index according to location, specific interests/topics, etc.....compare say the Taiwan section that has basically 5 or 6 threads - LOS has 20 plus!

Is the search function perfect, no! But I luv it when someone posts of the MP re soapies and maybe halfway down the thread, someone just reported re the same topic.....or when a simple search gets you 10 hits.

My favorite is when someone writes in January or Feb: I'm planning my first trip to Bkk for this coming August and want to come prepared. Where are the best places stunner, for massage parlors, blah blah. Please tell me cheapest hotel near the action, blah blah....

Now move this to one of my favorite forums, flyertalk.com which is PG rated and probably the most informative forum for travel. A newbie posts: I'm planning to visit Rome with my wife for this fall and want to know the best restaurants in town, the best sights to see....WTF - are we now their travel agent AND tour guide?

If you somehow found this ISG site, you must have put some effort, right? So why not go the extra step and do some homework?


My apologies for ranting and raving....a little jet lagged, horny and in a pissed off mood tonight in HK. Long story....for another country thread ;)

And I promise not to discuss this issue again (except for the occasional "RTFF").....enjoy the rest of the weekend, wherever you might be.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
I believe in paying a fair price depending on services rendered, e.g. how long it goes for and how good a time I had. So O.K. 1000 Baht for a minimal session (say 30 minutes), but if I had an extended great session for 2 hours of sex play I would feel I was ripping her off with 1K Baht.
In my own country 2 hours in a brothel would cost me 10000 Baht, and could get it for 5000 Baht in a private visit of a girl I know. I would therefore think 2k Baht would be fair in Bangkok, less in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]

What does the price at home have to do with the price in Bangkok? The vagina is not a 'free trade' item - they literally do not allow these girls into the US, and it is even rather difficult for them to get into Europe. No, the price in Bangkok is what it is, though you are certainly doing your best to increase it.

Personally I never pay more than 500 baht in Bangkok, though usually I must leave the Sukhumvit/Silom areas to do so.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Look its true that some girls (usually not the good ones) try all sorts of tricks to get a bit extra, e.g. the taxi.

I believe in paying a fair price depending on services rendered, e.g. how long it goes for and how good a time I had. So O.K. 1000 Baht for a minimal session (say 30 minutes), but if I had an extended great session for 2 hours of sex play I would feel I was ripping her off with 1K Baht.
In my own country 2 hours in a brothel would cost me 10000 Baht, and could get it for 5000 Baht in a private visit of a girl I know. I would therefore think 2k Baht would be fair in Bangkok, less in Pattaya. For a Long Time I pay at least 3000, but may increase it depending on how many sessions and how good she was. If she was really bad, I would kick her out early and get someone else.[/QUOTE]

1kbht and no more for ST. 1.5 for exquisite long time w/no cab fare. That is more money than the head nurse at the Bumragrad hospital makes. What we pay at home should have no bearing on what is paid there. You can get FS BJ with a nice massage afterwards at MP in most East Coast US cities for $160 USD. In 2001 it was 1-1.5K at a fishbowl, ST was 500bht, LT1000 and the Bht was about 40-1usd, and the girls were 10x more charming and sweet. Last fall I could get ST in BKK for 1,000 without question and now they are demanding 1.5k while the exchange rate blows. The Bht gets stronger and the Thai attitude gets more greedy because all these Americans don't haggle, they just hand the money right over. The place is well on it's way to being another Rio.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]The FAQ is old but is still very accurate. How many newbies actually read it before posting - I suspect very few. And if you yourself, newbie or senior read it, you'll find many of the links, tips remain accurate to this day.
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The LOS threads are the most active on the international threads of ISG - and yes there is more than enough chit chat (mine included). But that doesn't excuse lazy newbies from taking the time to do some basic reading before posting questions. ISG is no different than any other public board, except, IMHO guys here are more lazy and more prone to throw out a question before making even the slightest attempt to do a search.
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My favorite is when someone writes in January or Feb: I'm planning my first trip to Bkk for this coming August and want to come prepared. Where are the best places stunner, for massage parlors, blah blah. Please tell me cheapest hotel near the action, blah blah....
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If you somehow found this ISG site, you must have put some effort, right? So why not go the extra step and do some homework?
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I could not agree more. If a newbie asks 1 question, for example ”is the Grand President GF”? (and, DUH, doesn’t place his question in the hotel thread), he is just being plain lazy. It has been discussed ad nauseum, and he is expecting someone to answer something which he would know in the first 5 minutes of reading the hotel thread. While he is reading the hotel thread, trying to discover if the GP is in fact GF, he will also learn about the short cut from the GP to soi 7. He will also learn about a reliable travel agent in the small strip mall in front of the Ambassador. He will also learn of Sabai Sabai massage of the small soi on soi 11. He will also learn to insist on tower 1 or 2, as tower 3 sucks. But also to insist to be in a room away from the shrieking birds. (yes, that valualbe piece of information is in there). He might also learn that another hotel, not far from the GP suits his needs much better than the GP. So why doesn’t he do it? Pure laziness. When I see a question asked by a newbie, I often look at the date when he joined, and invariably, it is within 2 or 3 days of asking his question. He most certainly isn't going to find out any of the above information if he asks the question, gets an answer, and goes on his way.

So what did he do? He stumbled across ISG, realized it was a forum where people could ask questions about sex in other countries, didn’t think about the fact this site might have been around for a while, and the info he is looking for is already there, and he asks, “is the GP GF”? If he gets an answer, it is usually a one liner “ yes, the GP is GF”. So now he is off to LOS, happy as a clam, (pun intended), and even though he might have a good time, doesn’t make use of this forum, which is packed with wonderful information. If however, someone tells him to RTFF, then ask more specific questions, assuming he knows what RTFF means, he will arrive loaded with precious information. I actually believe answering such a question with anything other than RTFF is a disservice to the person asking the question. Of course, there are polite ways of doing so. And RTFF does not mean read every single page of every single thread. If someone spends one hour reading, with a pen and paper, or better yet, copy/paste into word, he will have pages and pages of great info.

I remember a poster writing about having actually printed the 5 days in BKK itinerary someone wrote about 1 year ago, (sorry, I forget who it is, I do remember it was someone well known to all). Anyway this guy had the time of his life. He had loads of useful information at his fingertips, and made full use of the information on this forum. He knew how to get to Nana from his hotel, he knew where the Beergarden and Gulliver’s were, he knew which bars in cowboy have nude dancing. He knew the best MPs, knew how to use the BTS, etc. He admitted that without having RTFF, he would have spent many hours wondering around, lost, trying to have a good time. Instead, he hit the ground running.

Duni’s comment was a joke, it was written as a joke, and it came across to most as a joke. 98%? Who knows, who cares. How many hits are there on this thread? Who knows, who cares. IT WAS A JOKE, and there were some funny comments as a result of it, some asking about the seriousness of the post, asking why it had not been reported in the Bangkok post, (sigh), some other realizing it was a joke.

Bottom line is, some may think Duni’s post was out of line, I immediately saw it for what it was, and even PMd him about it. (Duni, please don’t post my PM to you ;) ). Lets not forget the purpose here is not only to exchange information, but also to have a bit of fun. No offense to Jackson, but it might help to remind all and sundry that this is just an insignificant little sex forum for horny guys. Nothing more.

So as to not offend the puritans, I am going to try to ignore stupid useless questions by newbies. I am sure someone will ask, in the next week or so, if the GP is GF, and I am sure someone will answer “yes, it is”. All I know is it won’t be me.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]The latest news is that the new decree is that all the gogo bars are now to close at 9 p.m. So, for all the inquiring minds you need to change your travel plans and find alternate destinations. No word yet on the beer bars.[/QUOTE]Oh, dear. You misread the reports. They only close for prayers. At 10pm they reopen for softdrinks with ladyboys doing the pingpong trick.

Don't miss the cutie who puts a candle in his rear, a wick in his willie and burns his candle at both ends.

Hey Guys,

I just thought you might find it interesting to know this newbie stuff goes on all over the place. We just had a very similar discussion on the Argentina Private forum. Have you notice that newbie’s that ask for info without RTFF rarely ever give anything back to the forum. I guess if they won’t take the time to RTFF, and can’t even find the Abbreviations List, it would really be too much to ask that they find the search function. And if they did find the search function, surely it would be way to much to expect them to figure out that if you click on search and then click on advanced search, a whole new world of searching would open up.

Now, I don’t have a dog in the fight on the Thailand thread, but I am a Senior Member on all three of Jackson’s forums i.e. ISG, AP, and USA. I have over 200 posts on the AP, some of which are banters. Having said that, I’m planning my first trip to the LOS, probably in November, and guess what I’m a newbie to the Thailand thread, and I’m doing my research now, and if I have questions you can bet, it will be after I have RTFF, and I will try to give back.
BTW; IMHO bantering is a way of keeping guys that don’t really need the forum anymore around, it keeps them interested.

You guys have a good thing going here, and a lot of great info, Thank You!


BTW: I do have one question; does anyone know anyplace I can find some hot pussy? LOL (just joking) :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]1kbht and no more for ST. 1.5 for exquisite long time w/no cab fare. That is more money than the head nurse at the Bumragrad hospital makes. ...
[/QUOTE]BuleDaddy,

Bumrumgrad. And why not pay more, if it is allowed to ask?


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
So as to not offend the puritans, I am going to try to ignore stupid useless questions by newbies. I am sure someone will ask, in the next week or so, if the GP is GF, and I am sure someone will answer “yes, it is”. All I know is it won’t be me.
...[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Well said.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Opebo]...
Personally I never pay more than 500 baht in Bangkok, though usually I must leave the Sukhumvit/Silom areas to do so.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

It must be Syphilis.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Hey Guys,

I just thought you might find it interesting to know this newbie stuff goes on all over the place. We just had a very similar discussion on the Argentina Private forum. [b][size=+2]Have you notice that newbie’s that ask for info without RTFF rarely ever give anything back to the forum.[/b][/size]
...[/QUOTE]Punter 127,

Thank you, that is it!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Punter 127]BTW: I do have one question; does anyone know anyplace I can find some hot pussy? LOL (just joking) :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Yes, I do! LOL!

AT2