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[QUOTE=Fifino68;2937404]I knew Globe was 250-300 minimum, like Maxim in Vienna.[/QUOTE]Maxim is 170E/30 (excellent service almost guaranteed).
At Sharks, Oase, World most of my sessions in 2024 have been 100E/30 or 150E/60 (or 200E/120). Excellent sessions with hot girls. I have tried 200E/60 a couple of times, but without any improved quality (sometimes even worse). I feel no need to feed the upsellers. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Fifino68;2937406]I don't see any good alternatives for 100 and many times I got bad service by paying the minimum. Plus, some of these girls, at least when I was there, barely get 1 fuck per day. Frankly to me this is a shitty enough job to make it even cheap.
.[/QUOTE]That is not a valid argument for me. Most girls accept 100 if you play it right. Of course you can do with your money what you want. I am simply stating that in my personal experience paying above market rate only drives up the price not the service. And why do you think business has declined so much? Prices too high and service deteriorating. And you want to solve that by paying more? Honouring good service by a tip or repeat business. That works and that is what I do. And I never got rejected for repeat sessions ever. So I might not be completely wrong. When a girl approaches me and wants 100/30 for just basic service and immediately starts upselling has always resulted in sub par service. Same like paying upfront. Red flags. But as I said spend your money as it makes you happy. As will I do.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2937408]Just to be clear, Globe is CHF 150 per 30 minutes, which is around EUR 158 at the time of writing.[/QUOTE]Globe girls get 130/30 when club take tax and insurance. Zurich is much more expensive than Hessen.
[QUOTE=Fifino68;2937406]I don't see any good alternatives for 100 and many times I got bad service by paying the minimum. Plus, some of these girls, at least when I was there, barely get 1 fuck per day. Frankly to me this is a shitty enough job to make it even cheap..[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you for difficult, bad job, but these girls with low level of education and their pimp for many, chose for fast big money they could not make in any other job. At Sharks, those asking most expensive like Simona / Rose may not be on highest level, when I promote Rachel behavior who is new and provide BBBJ, DATY, FK for 100/30 and smiling lovely. On 2021, after covid, I had 12 1 hour rooms with Katalea for 150/60 with 0 upselling and she was more fresh face, on 2024 she ask 150/30 for poor GFE when she is not and gothic make up, double rate for lower quality. Only girls fault with their pimp if business is falling and they also make less entry for the club, when many locals don t visit anymore but go elsewhere where less expensive. Club asked for rate 80/30 and 130/60, to get better business, but Romanian agreement for most and they prefer to fuck those behaving like tourist, so they warm their ass, making cellulite, with low business and what will be after Summer when too cold for garden. Atlanta, Bahama, Rom are still for 50/30 and many clubs in NRW. Cami got business when she worked for 80/30 and 130/60 on 2023 and her clients seemed happy, not feeling to be fucked for value for money. Average rate now in Germany seem 100/30 and 150/60 for GFE service, but can still get for less expensive, like I got at LR for 120/60 , or 100/60 at Penelope. Pay like a tourist and you will be treated like a tourist.
[QUOTE=Fifino68;2937406]I don't see any good alternatives for 100 and many times I got bad service by paying the minimum. Plus, some of these girls, at least when I was there, barely get 1 fuck per day.
.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind that 50 was the minimum until recently, and is seen as the correct price for many Germans who go to these places regularly. Of course, occasional visitors flying in are happy to pay more.
[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2937468]Bear in mind that 50 was the minimum until recently, and is seen as the correct price for many Germans who go to these places regularly. Of course, occasional visitors flying in are happy to pay more.[/QUOTE]A word of caution. If any of you blokes get girls for 50/30 or 100,150/60 do not name them on this forum as some working girls read the posts and the Sharks cartel would come down very hard on girls who accept less than 100/30 and 200/60.
It's a sad day. I've come to the realization that Sharks is no longer worth a visit. It's been a staple of mine for so many years but my last three consecutive visits have been duds. Worse. I've left feeling slightly disgusted. There are a bunch of girls, sure. Most are ugly, fat and pushy. There are a hand full who are hot but they are usually busy, rude or princesses. Service is inconsistent across the board. Rooms are filthy. Bar service takes forever. Alcoholic drinks are watered down. The beer keg is more froth than beer. Plastic cups are juvenile. Most customers are either posing thugs, retirees stocking up on food or hapless asian tourists being had by the girls.
It's become so bad the girls don't even try to act sexy anymore. Eating like pigs and walking around wearing towels and customer's sandals half the day. One old school girl described it perfectly to me. Sharks is just street girls but indoors. They'll let anyone in.
I've walked into the club with a pocket full of Euros for the past month and each time walked out having spent almost nothing. Just wondering 'what happened?' , and 'why did I loose a valuable day on this place?
It's taken a while. But Sharks has finally jumped the Shark. Time for me to cut the cord me to reorient myself to better options.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2937490]A word of caution. If any of you blokes get girls for 50/30 or 100,150/60 do not name them on this forum as some working girls read the posts and the Sharks cartel would come down very hard on girls who accept less than 100/30 and 200/60.[/QUOTE]Yes, many girls read, but despite Romanian agreement for many for rate, Sharks is not Medelin and when girls really want You go with them, they will adapt for You if You don t behave like a tourist and not Asian. Some girls ask less expensive and are busier, some prefer to fuck tourists.
Sharks is good for me for the club, desk and bar improved. For girls, worthing for rare Germans for me, I got 4 great since 2022 with no silicon and 3 were with 0 tattoo.
[QUOTE=BeWilder;2937039]I might have the opportunity to make a sneaky visit to Frankfurt this Saturday and / or Sunday and if so will spend it at Sharks. I've never been to Frankfurt during August and understand number of girls are down due to it being the holiday season. Approx how many girls are there likely to be working on Saturday and Sunday (assume there would be fewer on Sunday)..[/QUOTE]Call it 70-90 at peak evening weekend hours.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2937533]Sharks is good for me for the club, desk and bar improved. For girls, worthing for rare Germans for me, I got 4 great since 2022 with no silicon and 3 were with 0 tattoo.[/QUOTE]Legendary Sirioja best club in europe for you now? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Nutella1;2937805]Legendary Sirioja best club in europe for you now? Thanks.[/QUOTE]For prettiest girls seen on 2024 , Magnum. For value for money, Penelope where pretties for 50/30 . For best quality, for 150/60 , Golden gate with so beautiful garden and 5 stars rooms. At Sharks on 2024 , I found only 1 wow, so fresh German without silicon and 0 tattoo, only on 1 week end, for more than 4 hours together for 400 . But I m very different and proud to be, when I don t need to be a legend, I prefer to be me.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2937898]For prettiest girls seen on 2024 , Magnum. For value for money, Penelope where pretties for 50/30 . For best quality, for 150/60 , Golden gate with so beautiful garden and 5 stars rooms. At Sharks on 2024 , I found only 1 wow, so fresh German without silicon and 0 tattoo, only on 1 week end, for more than 4 hours together for 400 . But I m very different and proud to be, when I don t need to be a legend, I prefer to be me.[/QUOTE]Legend frequently seen in nrw region recently especially Samya.
[QUOTE=Long420;2938257]Legend frequently seen in nrw region recently especially Samya.[/QUOTE]Not me, when I work hard in my mountains with complicated weather.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2937490]A word of caution. If any of you blokes get girls for 50/30 or 100,150/60 do not name them on this forum as some working girls read the posts and the Sharks cartel would come down very hard on girls who accept less than 100/30 and 200/60.[/QUOTE]Do you think sharks or the girls actually read these forums? This forum is sadly very slow. I wish it were more active.