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[QUOTE=Talon;2360080]Girls really have an inflated sense of what they're worth compared to FB. 300 k is a typical asking price.[/QUOTE]Your mistake is being so forward. Start with "mami como estas?" Then ask her if she would like to spend some time with you for a gift. 150 MIL CHUPA SIN CONDON is pretty irritating man.
EDIT: Also she's a dumb **** with that stupid message of her so maybe you should have offered 50k for her to crawl to your place suck your dick.
I used to juggle sim cards when I traveled. I tried T-Mobile and Sprint internationally and hated the slow speeds and awful customer service.
If you spend any significant amount of time outside the US, and are from the US, I think Google Fi is a no-brainer for mobile phone service. It's cheap, reliable and has excellent customer service. It leverages both the Sprint and T-Mobile international networks seamlessly connecting to the strongest. When I was in Peru and T-Mobile's network was down it auto-connected to Sprint. When I was in New Zealand which had no Sprint partner it worked great with T-Mobile. I get LTE speed over 95% of the time. When connected to Wifi calls home are free. Otherwise 20 cents a minute. Free SMS worldwide. Pay for the mobile data you use. My monthly bills average less than $30 a month. Only downside is that it works best with the phones they sell, though it is now compatible with other phones (see their site). I'm a Pixel fan boy, think they are better than iPhones and now they have the mid-range priced 3 a series. I have used it in 14 countries (including Colombia).
If you are interested in learning more here is a like to the Google Fi site which has all the info. You also get $20 off if you sign up through this site.
[URL]https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT[/URL]
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2359674]Here in the US Sprint's network might not be as ubiquitous as Verizon and AT&T but their international roaming is excellent. Two years ago Verizon's international plan was so expensive that I had to get a SIM card every time I traveled and it was not transparent- people could tell I was traveling if I called back to US. It was basically $40 for 100 mb data (which is nothing) and perhaps 100 minute talk time and the price of exceeding that was punitive. Sprint's international data roaming is free, although slower than 3G, but the option of buying some megabytes of 4G are available and a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon's $40 for 100 mb. I just don't need it for wpp and FB in the streets of MDE or where wifi is available. Calls within Colombia or to US are 20 cents a minute.
CF is out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JayToStore;2360041]Locker as usual. Don't believe in free cancellation from Expedia even with insurance after 24 HR booking, its only for emergency purpose. Not a 1 click cancel.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Can you please provide more details about the lockers. Never used them in hotels.
Free cancellation for hotel reservations with Expedia works perfect. Did it many times. For flights yes -24 hours.
For some of the newbies. I go to Medellin and Cartagena every few months. I have a set program that works "for me" I figured I would share. A lot of other seasoned mongers will hate my program. But to each their own. Maybe they're is someone similar to me personally wise that this will help. Because this is the Medellin board I will start there.
Pro tip: on the way to the air port stop at Walmart and get your own condoms that you are comfortable and used too. Don't "wing" this one IMO. Also a small speaker for music and fuenshi LOL.
Usually I fly from Cartagena on Friday or Saturday into Medellin. $60 flight. Flight gets me in around 1 pm. Perfect timing. If possible. Buy your bottles at the duty free. Don't bring them from home unless you don't mind weighing down your luggage LOL. As soon as I get my bags I walk right past the money exchange. All my money is on a debit card except a stashed emergency $300. This makes for easy withdrawals of Colombian Pesos at great rates from ATMs. I walk all the way to the back of the airport past the restrooms and next to the elevators (not the escalators) and withdraw about 600 to 1200 k pesos ($200 -$400). And the party begins. I'm a 36 year old, in shape, black guy that speaks English with minimal slang but know maybe 5 sentences in Spanish haha. I'm a laugh and party guy so I cater to that vibe of fun in Medellin. And I only travel alone. My rules my way.
Stay: I always book an Air BNB. Always. I don't deal with hotels or security guards if at all possible. Some see the huge security benefit in it. I personally like the privacy of the Air BNBs and prefer to have my own security measures and screenings. Again to each their own. I only book my Airbnb in Poblado within 10 streets of LLares. On the Air BNB App I type in Parque Llares. Then click the map and recenter my search right around llares. The lowest I go is Poblado Park up to up to Carrera 34. Maximum. The goal in this is so that I don't need taxis and Ubers much if at all save a few bucks and get the on ground experience. There are so many regular people walking this area, I feel safer on foot with all the street vendors and foreigners than in some random persons car. But to each their own. There is a group called Life Afar and they are luxury for cheap rentals. I only book through them recently. It seems they never have guest fees, always have your own key to your apartment and entrance, and best noone to judge you at the front door as you fulfill your crazy desires hahaha. I'm trying a big girl for once this trip! Never had it haha and running out of fetishes LOL.
Once there: the drive from the airport is about an hour. So if you can book an early flight, shoot for the noon or 1 pm arrival. Most check ins are at 3 or 4 pm any way so getting there around 2 with hour drive should get you there at a reasonable time. I like air BNB because you can usually get an early check in if you give them a heads up. Worst case get dropped off at your place then walk to one of the million surrounding restaurants to burn time or start messaging those chicas.
Once I get into my apartment I usually unpack everything then start hiding valuables. Don't put all your important stuff in one place. I put cash in books, under plants, in shoes hahaha. Just take a picture of each hiding spot or you'll forget. Next I immediately log into facebook (my Medellin account) and tinder and make it clear I'm in town. Usually within an hour my inbox starts dinging new messages and hearts on the status. All the girls that ignored me seem to become interested when they know I'm here and within range. Hahaha.
Setup: I usually walk to the grocery store on CL. 10. There I buy my Aguardiente, Titos, some flavored vodka, Ron Medellin and some sort of tequila. This is for my home bar and entertainment needs at home. Nothing worse than having a girl over and no alcohol to break the ice. Also good pregame sessions before partying at night. Lower tab too. I then walk back to the store and buy mixers and snacks to lay out on the table. Like the individual multipacks of chips and a large bottle water and ice. I usually by large a bucket of KFC for a few bucks. The chicas come over after the bars and melt over seeing fried chicken at 3 am. All together $35 in on food and drinks + alcohol. This is. My standard apartment set up.
Day time:
I don't normally see a ton of available chicas walking around LLares during the day. Mainly a bunch of locals and foreigners shopping and hanging out. So this is when I go site seeing and restaurants hopping. I'm a big foodie. Day time is Getting instagram pictures and crap to cover up to my friends back home why I am here hahahah. Normally if I develop an urge during the day I usually 100% hit up Photoprepagos website or Milleroticos which has been flawless for me so far. Only one bait and switch experience. Hahhah but it was fun and I still did it hahaha it was a good laugh moment for me to remember. I also have about 1000 chicas on my Medellin facebook account. Only one male friend hahahhaah. Read my other post on how I did that. Facebook is a expensive brothel to me at this point with quotes from 175 k up to 600 k depending on how into you she is.
CENTRO: HATE IT. Worst experience ever. Even worse in Bogota but Medellin hasn't given me anything either. I just can't find the places that everyone working girl shops peacefully hahah. Maybe it's me or my personality and comfort. Or just sick of the ghetto mindset.
Again I'm going to pissoff a few specific seasone people but it is what it is. I don't like digging through the weeds! Maybe I was on the wrong streets at the wrong time all 4 times that I tried. But it sucked! It was way too disgusting for me. It was like looking for a Dime in a crack house. Everyone around seemed sketchy, drugged out, transvestite, or just plain out unsafe. Never felt comfortable. Constantly watching for pick pockets or stick up kids, stepping over drugged out homeless people, everyone looking at me like who is this guy, (got called lebron James or mike Tyson easily 30 times.) A few normal people but I'm just too much of a sore thumb. Being a solo traveler with a sense of fashion and also standing at 6'4 250 lbs it's best for me to stay on the beaten path. I don't like having to dress like I'm homeless to blend in. That's just not fun to me. I don't like having to give the don't mess with me look to everyone that I pass and sees a gringo opportunity. I grew up in a similar environment just with northern americans. I just don't feel like I enjoy that kind of hunt anymore. Thats a last case environment for me personally. I reached my version of success in life. I have nooooo desire to fish in those lakes anymore even for a $40 discount. I'd perfer the environment where I can "safely" kick back more than being in alert mode while looking for chicas. Hope that makes sense. My face says I'm relaxed but my brain is in protection mode constantly. The whole street Walker scene is deep for me and I have to learn it at some point. But if you arent seasoned. Fine a buddy first or have dress homeless, put black stickers on your teeth so they appear missing, wear an eye patch, and drag one leg as if its limp until you see your diamond in the ruff. Maybe you'll feel blended in. Hahah.
At night around 10 pm I walk to Llares and go to Gustos for a few drinks to check the early talent. Usually on a Saturday there are about 20 girls and 20 to 30 guys walking around scoping each other out. I've got about 5 regulars in there and one bar tender so it's always like a reunion when I walk in. I normally order a few drinks and sit in the walking path tables. If nothing stunning crosses I go back down the elevator and walk to La Hacienda. THAT PLACE USED TO BE AMAZING WITH TALENT BUT THE PRICE WENT UP. One chica told me the whole scheme. Long story short, they are paid to be there. And must charge 600 k! She said they have to pay an exit fee themselves so they must stay until close hoping a guy willing to pay that price chooses them. The selection was impeccable and more girls than guys. But at 600 k I just flirt have a drink then sneak out after a few empty promises and phone numbers. Hahaha. Save this thought. After I sneak out I then bounce to all the little bars in the park. I normally find them too Colombian and find myself a bit too gringo. But I still force myself to go just for the experience. I then eventually find myself back to Gustos. I flirt with a few chicas while walking back but be careful. A few of the hid transvestite work the concrete stairs of the park getting guys going back and fourth through the bars. As it gets later I gain a bit more thirst to pick my night cap. By now the best one that I saw earlier is gone. And the 2nd best has a guy all over her. I'm normally kicking myself for passing on them at about 1 am. The alcohol is kicked in and my standards have lowere back into Gustos to see the new wave of partiers that have arrived since I left. I usually pick one one new one or a past. I get alot of higher quotes in gustos. Never lower than 250 k but max so far has been 350 k. RUMOR: So La Hacienda has been shut down by the city for whatever reason. My chica from there told me that all the girls now moved to the club down the street from Gustos by that weird little food window. It's like a expensive liquor storee and an open walled club above it that you can see from the street. I can't remember the name of it but theres always promoters trying to wave passer bye in. I never bit but this time I will try when I get there this Weekend. Worth a look. But. I hope they don't take that 600 k price with them and especially up to Gustos. If you guys are getting higher quotes there now, that would explain it. All it takes is for one girl to demand 600 k and then share with the other chicas and boom. Immediate inflation. (as if 300 k isn't already.) I perfer Gustos on a Sunday night. Seems like less guy competition as most are leaving early in the am and it appears the selection is alot more "available " and negotiations easier. On a Sunday I walk around like a God in there hahahah rejecting girls left and right hahahah. Saturday nights I have to do most of the ice breaking. I always use Photoprepagos and milleroticos to suppliment the days and evening sessions. I still find myself paying 200 k ish. Ove gone to the massage parlors during the day and was blown away by the 20 girl line up in Energy. But I kind of like entertaining in the privacy of my own home. It feels less mechanical when they are on my turf. By Monday morning all my snacks are gone, chicken buckets digested, alcohol down to the minimums. I normally book as late of a flight as possible for Monday. This way I have time to wake up hungover and maybe call in a chick from the sites for a farewell gift to myself.
This program works flawlessly for me and not for others.
Expenses: remember I plan for worst case so these numbers are the most I plan to spend. I always have carry over I budget Air BNb to cost me $70 to $90 per night paid before I arrive. Once on ground I budget 3 meals at $20 (usually cost less but this is how I plan it) so $60 per day for fine dining at great restaurants. I expect to buy $100 worth of alcohol for my home bar. I put 250 dollars per day for chicas (don't skimp here. This is the whole goal! That's a guaranteed 2 or 3 sessions (which is all I need). If using casa or sites it will cost less but just for budgeting purposes. I give myself an $80 bar tab limit which I never hit and usually have carry over. I plan $15 for ubers and taxi. That is a good base for me. Again corners and prices can be cut or surpassed!! That's just my expectations.
Final thought: buy condoms before arrival, buy alcohol in The air port or at a grocery store and not the liquor stores, use your debit card to get money in COP rather than bring dollars to exchange and ensure you notify your bank before. Stash emergency money and valuables in places besides the provided safe AND TAKE PICS OF WHERE. Don't aimlessly venture into Centro unless you're ready for that life. Get in convo with Tallman or Pollo Loco or whoever you feel knows how to handle that environment. I want you to be "safer" and "minimize" risk. Have snacks and drinks and mixers in your apartment to keep the chicas relaxed. I had a threesome that last 6 hours once because they were have so much fun. We banged and walked around naked and drinking and more sex over and over until they finally left. They begged to come back the next night but the train had left hahaha and a new chica was on board. Lastly set your own budget before coming. Think of everything you would want to do there in one day and put a escalated at max price next to it. Build a smart but flexible budget that is obtainable. Don't let anyone tell you you are spending too much or that the Centro girls are disgusting as I think they are. Figure out your program and perfect it.
My next goal is to figure out how to safely, privately, and low stressfully navigate Centro in a way I'm not always looking over my shoulder. In poblado it's the same as if I am at home, just with better women. And most of all, this program works for me!! It won't work for everyone unless you are as handsome as I am hahahha I'll be in Cartagena Tuesday through Friday then Medellin Saturday through Tuesday morning. Hit me up!
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360016]Hi,
I'm going to visit Colombia in 2 weeks. Aug 31-Sep 4 Cartagena, Sep 4 - Sep 8 Medellin.
New to the forum and the country, but not to the game - 20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands.
Have been reading the forum for couple weeks. Thanks a lot to veterans for time and efforts spent to help newbies to understand Medellin!
Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).
I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.[/QUOTE]I will be in the area all month long. Exercising and studying, you need any help, PM me and I'll assist you in any issue that I can! Pollo negro is out!
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]I would have to wonder what percentage of the population actually feels this way. There is always an Element in every society that pushed back against change. I don't understand why "gentrification" is a bad thing in some places. When it crowds or people to where they can't afford the sky high rent I understand, but tourist are not moving to Medellin in drives, so I have to wonder if this isn't some people who just like to be against something.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2355369]All of your logic and points are right on the money as far as I am concerned. However everybody rolls different, and some guys are into Facebook and may be because they have never done the SW scene, visited a Casa, or hit up a Strip Club. Or it's just their personal preference as to how they want to roll.[/QUOTE]Lots of guys in this hobby prefer to order in because they have zero ability to communicate in Spanish, no social skills, scared of their own shadow, or all of the above.
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2360016]Hi,
Booked already Ayenda 1235 Botero hotel (I read all cons and pros and despite my Spanish limited to 20 words -for many years just plan to start learning-I've been in rough places and hopefully will survive).
I have free cancellation with Expedia, so if veterans convince me that I should stay somewhere else. I'll think about it.
The only question that bothers me for now -I've read that there is NO in-room safe in Botero hotel. Where do you guys keep your passports, cards, money?.[/QUOTE]I have stayed there 4 times for almost a month, I just hide my passport in the room but you can have the front desk put it in their safe but get it back on a week day a day or 2 early before you leave in case the office is closed when you leave. Money I just get what I need from the ATM every day, keep some in my pocket and most plus credit card and copy of passport in money belt under my clothes.
[URL]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018RGQBZ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/URL]
Also read my lengthy review on the Hotel Botero (as it was called last year) in Forum: Colombia-Thread: Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, post #925 lots of tips on the surrounding area.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments/page10[/URL]
Make sure you check out the rooftop bar, nice views of the city. Here's a video I took from up there:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48fn1Nlw_is[/URL]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2360086]Your mistake is being so forward. Start with "mami como estas?" Then ask her if she would like to spend some time with you for a gift. 150 MIL CHUPA SIN CONDON is pretty irritating man.
EDIT: Also she's a dumb **** with that stupid message of her so maybe you should have offered 50k for her to crawl to your place suck your dick.[/QUOTE]I do actually banter with them first. You can only fit so much conversation on a mobile screen so I just jumped to the relevant part.
[QUOTE=Talon;2360021]Funny that the writer is railing against sex tourists, who at least spend money and boost the local economy, when his country is currently flooded with impoverished Venezuelans who depress local wages, take jobs, and strain health and human services.[/QUOTE] Read the local newspapers. There's plenty of Colombians railing against the wave of Venezuelans entering the country.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2359981]This is finally hitting Medellin as there seems to be some sentiment to keep those traveling here for vices away along with pushback on gentrification.[/QUOTE]I haven't read the attachment but my take as a frequent visitor to Medellin is that gringos have nothing to worry about. Colombians love Americans and things American. IMO if you are a young white American male you really don't even need to monger especially if you know a little Spanish.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2360034]My experience with Sprint has been no issue. As soon as I land (without buying a sim) I restart my phone. While I e I'm in Customs line I usually get a text message from Sprint saying "Welcome To Sprint, you are in Colombia" then it tells me my rates. Free text 25 cent per min calls. Now here's the catch. The service sucks when using GPS oriented apps. Google Maps, Uber, etc. Sprint sends a message right after the welcome text saying for $10 they can upgrade you to the "high speed" roaming capabilities. It's worth every penny. But sprint works there. Maybe it's a phone issue for some.[/QUOTE]One of us misunderstand what PN is saying. You are roaming so you don't have a problem. Try to put a Colombia SIM in your sprint phone to see if it works.
Arrived Saturday and the tunnel on the airport route is open. About 40 minutes to Laureles. Taxis add the 18,000 toll making the fare 80 k, even though they probably save a couple litres of petrol.
[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2360104]For some of the newbies. I go to Medellin and Cartagena every few months. I have a set program that works "for me" I figured I would share. A lot of other seasoned mongers will hate my program. But to each their own. Maybe they're is someone similar to me personally wise that this will help. Because this is the Medellin board I will start there.[/QUOTE]First post for me here. I was just going to say thanks for the info mate. I am currently living in Udon Thani Thailand but going to visiting Colombia to see if I might move there (been in Thailand for 10 years now sort of looking for something new).
Anyway, what you wrote is pretty much exactly the same I do when I fly down to Pattaya for a few days. The only difference is I am a 36 year old 6'4 German LOL.
But I like to do the disco tours and a bit of partying as well with maybe some facebook action during the day as well. I can relate to kicking yourself for passing on a hotty just to come back later and she is gone or has a guy already.
That seems to happen regularly but I never learn hahaha.
Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2360173]if you are a young white American male you really don't even need to monger especially if you know a little Spanish.[/QUOTE]Young guys will more naturally blend into social scenes, clubs, etc. with young regular chics. If your Spanish is on point, you can skip mongering even if you are older and pick up regular Colombian chics as well.