Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;1678435]Day 1:

So I arrived Tuesday morning and made my way to the hotel via the air link train to Makkasan and then a cab the rest of the way. Arrived about midday-ish and shown to my room. Despite being tired I didn't rest long, unpacked a few bits, showered, had a snack and went out to get money exchanged, get sim card and look around. After some food at Soi Arab looked for a shop to buy some cheap booze, I only see some 7/11's nearby and small bottles of branded spirits really aren't much cheaper than the hotel so some pointers on where to get good prices on booze would be nice, I'm not into trying local beer as I'm not a big drinker and would rather stick to what I know.

After this I retired to hotel to shower and change, had a couple vodka with red bull and had a look around the Nana area before heading into nana itself. By now it was about 10 pm and I surveyed the ground floor as I walked by the GoGos I spotted Rainbow 2, having heard good things about the Rainbow GoGos I decided to make this my first stop but as I approached a man stopped me and said it was members only. I don't believe this but I guess it could be because I'm of Indian origin (albeit born and raised in the UK), I would have thought the fact that I speak perfect English with a strong British accent would make that obvious but I guess this guy was an idiot.

One of the girls outside London Calling invited me in, this is a new GoGo that's replaced Angelwitch 2. She told me that the bar is 100% ladies. No ladyboys whatsoever. This convinced me to give it a try. Went in and was seated in the first row in front of the stage, about a dozen girls "dancing" at a time with a change of girls after 20 minutes or so. Most of the girls looked pretty good so I ordered myself a cocktail and asked about the bar fine. The waitress went and got my drink and brought the Papasan over who explain the pricing to me, ladies drinks 200 baht, barfine 800 baht for gogo girls and 1000 baht for coyotes. He also said the girls charged a fixed rate go to back to hotel, 2 K short time and 4 K long time. Despite the pricey drinks the other rates seemed quite reasonable to me given the number of attractive girls here. After a little while I made a selection and Papasan came over, he told me that girl isn't barfineable, which although disappointing is better than finding out after paying for a lady drink, so I salute Papasan's honesty, I picked another girl and was told that she'll only go to the short time rooms and not the hotel, again saved myself 200 baht on a wasted lady drink. I definitely do not want to use a filthy ST room. Finally 3rd choice Patih came over, bought her a lady drink and chatted a little. Patih was 22, fairly tall with a nice toned figure. Paid for the barfine and made our way back to the hotel.

In the room we both showered and got down to action, kissing on lips with some tongue action and on to BJ. This is where things began to go downhill, her technique was poor, very light BJ just doesn't go it for me, no tongue action, pretty robotic. Put on a condom and tried sex, wanted her on top but she was tired within minutes and having not had any rest after my 20 hour journey I wasn't full of energy either, the redbull had worn off and Patih's skills in the sack (or lack thereof) weren't getting me going. Spent quite some time gently going in missionary but this just wasn't doing it for me, tried to get her to go back on top again but again she was tired within minutes. Back to me on top again but by now I was getting less and less horny. After spending an hour of gentle fucking with me doing almost all the work she began complaining that she had to go back to dance. I figured I wasn't going to pop in her anytime soon so I gave her the 2000 baht and sent her on her way. For some reason she gave me her number and expected me to return on day 2. I'm happy to share it if for some reason anyone wants it. So in the end a disappointing evening for me, but London Calling did seem like a good place despite the pricey drinks, the fixed prices for ST and LT and Papasan's honesty (I. E. Not making me waste money on lady drinks for non-fineable ladies) was a big plus. Unfortunately I won't be going back since my research tells me Patih will probably be highly offended if I go there and barfine a different girl!

Day 2:

Spent much of the day sleeping, woke up for the complimentary breakfast, which was decent quality but really lacking in quantity! Went back to sleep till lunch time and then tried out Thailand's McDonalds. Found a place that does Brazilian waxing for men, I'd been considering trying it lately so I got one done! Now I got a smooth junk for the girls, LOL! Tonight I wanted to check out some of the non-mongering nightlife before going mongering so headed to Ocean Lounge on Soi 33. This is a bar with swimming pool and DJs that had good reviews, having got there however, found it dead and was told there wasn't anything happening that night. Despite it supposedly being open 7 days a week!

Well, headed back toward the hotel to cool down as it was very humid and hot, it was this time that I encountered a free lancer so said she was Russian. She did have a white complexion and judging from the nose I'd say she could well be Tatar or Uzbek, however her chin and voice hinted that it could be a ladyboy. Her asking price was 1000 baht for 3 hours which seemed suspiciously low too. I told her I wasn't there for mongering and got away from her. Now, she did have a nice body and given my love of BJs the chin wouldn't really be an issue if I don't look at it, however the thought that there could be a dick down there and the price being unbelievably low made upper brain over rule lower brain.

After a short break at hotel went to Soi Arab and grace hotel to check the scene there before heading to Levels club to check out the non-monger scene again. Had a 250 baht drink and chatted to some of the clubbers before heading out and stopping at Australian Pub, where a live band was performing with acoustic instruments. Sat down with a Breezer and watched for a bit, the singer asked if anyone had a request and one customer (who did actually sound Australian) wanted Iron Maiden! Well, hats off to the lady, she did a pretty impressive rendition of The Trooper! After another drink, made my way to Rajah hotel as I was considering a Russian girl because I'm really hoping for a nice BJ, entered the coffee shop and saw not a single girl! Asked the guy at reception about them and he took me upstairs to one of the hotel rooms with 3 Russian girls. He told me they charge 3,100 Baht for ST. One girl was asleep, didn't want to wake her, other girl spoke no English and third girl said none of them do uncovered BJ. Disappointed I decided to go to Nana. By now it was almost 1 am, headed up to the first floor (that's 2nd floor for our American friends), popped into one GoGo and quickly popped out, was passing Rainbow 4 so decided to take a look but once again I'm stopped, told it's member's only. This time I decided to act like I've frequented this place in the past and know it's not members only. Guy tells me the policy was brought in "last week" and that I can simply become a member for 1,200 Baht. HELL NO! I continue browsing, getting accosted by lady boys a couple times and politely declining. Went into another bar, name escapes me, and have a drink with a girl there. The papasan was a ladyboy but he assured me that all the other staff were 100% girl. After some chatting I politely declined the barfine as the girl didn't look that good once she'd gotten close to me. Finally I was considerig calling it a night but was politely invited in to Mandarin. Attractive and chatty girl named Yuna (I think) followed me up and sat down with me. She soon prompted me to buy a lady drink for her so I got both of us a drink and asked about the rates. 1000 baht barfine and she was 3000 for ST. I had decided before arriving here that my first time with any new girl will be ST. Anyways, Yuna quickly downed her drink and soon wanted another, for 160 baht I expect to get more than 5-10 mins time to chat to a girl but she was hot and energetic so I decided go let her have another drink. She downed this one even faster and then went on to the stage to dance. In all honesty she was by far the most enthusiastic girl on stage but her rapid downing of lady drinks told me she may well employ the same tactics elsewhere. After coming off stage she immediately wanted another drink but I declined and decided to call it a night. It was now approaching 2 am and despite not popping a load for a couple days now I just wasn't horny enough to take chances on girls that I don't think will give great service.

So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).[/QUOTE]Dude, go get an oily. Snow White, Mango, or Cherry. Don't waste your time in GoGos. Overpriced in every sense.

[QUOTE=ElVagabundo;1678428]Yes, 13 kilos is really big. Add to that the adding of muscle and it is really impressive. The story behind the story is complex. Part of detoxing includes daily colemas (enemas). It is amazing what gets built up in your colon over 60 years. Even after weeks and weeks of no solid food, the nastiest, gross, disgusting things were coming out. I was told you can have between 5 and 15 kilos of old dried waste stuck to the walls of your lower intestines. That was a big part of the weight loss. The liquid diet was 700 calories a day and between the walking, water aerobics and weights, I was burning 4,000 calories a day.

This was a very controlled environment, with a daily visit to the nurse, a nutritionist and other experts.

One more note, I have been on Losortan and a diuretic for the last 5 years. I weened off of the meds during the first week and for the last week, my blood pressure ran steady at 120/80.

Of course out side this very controlled environment I am still struggling with my same demons, but I do feel like a kid again.

So, are there health risks involved, for sure. But the same can be said of being 30 kilos overweight, taking beta blockers everyday for the rest of your life, and chewing Viagra like candy just to get a half ass woody.

By the way, I am injecting the testosterone every other day. I am trying to get my level up to between 1000 and 1200.

My goal is to die by getting shot in the back at the age of 99 by a jealous husband while drilling his wife and leaving a check to pay my funeral expenses that gets returned "Insufficient Funds".

I came into this world broke via pussy and I am going out the same way, I hope![/QUOTE]Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.

The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.

Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.

If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1678476]Dude, go get an oily. Snow White, Mango, or Cherry. Don't waste your time in GoGos. Overpriced in every sense.[/QUOTE]I would have absolutely marched back there the next night and barfined somebody else. Dayum. 3000+ baht for nothing? "Oh, I'm tired. Oh, I need to get back and dance. " WTF? A session with Rosy Palm sounds better.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1678539]Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.

The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.

Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.

If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.[/QUOTE]Like you do not believe in stuff like that but to each his own whatever works for you. For me every year or so I take three days and just eat fruits and thereafter it comes right out? Personally I'm due for my colon checkup soon.

As for that other stuff unless you test count is really low I stay away from that stuff, just found a friend who took it for his reason now he's got cancer!

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1678539]Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.

The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.

Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.

If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.[/QUOTE]Spot on. And in fact colonics can be a dangerous thing. Want to clean yourself out? Take some Epsom salts. Will do just as good a job.

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;1678296]Hi guys,

I'm in Bangkok right now (until Sunday) so if anyone wants to meet up do drop a pm, I'll login for a few minutes every day. I'll post full reports of my experiences when I get time.

Anyways, a quick question. Anyone encountered Russian ladyboys? Or ladyboys who could pass for Russian / central asian? I was just outside and on the main sukhumvit road, roughly opposite majestic suite I was propositioned by a "Russian girl" who had dark hair, fairly tall, wearing black framed glasses. She had a fairly deep voice and altho a nice body her chin looked kinda manly. Her asking price was only 1,000 Baht for 3 hours which is also suspiciously low.[/QUOTE]My general rule is that if you think it might be a ladyboy it probably is. And 1000 baht for 3 hours is crazy from any one these days. My guess is something more will take place like a knock on your head or a drug in your drink. I would stay away from whatever it is.

I once had swiped my CC at a Pattaya Establishment called Galaxy (Not a place to go in Thailand) for a lap dance. My bank called on the International No and blocked my card saying it may be misused later. They issued a new card by the time I went back home. That was the first and last time I ever took a chance with my CC. As fellow ISGians suggested its better to cash and carry with this hobby.

[QUOTE=Flammable;1678090]Hi all,

First time visitor soon to Bangkok and Pattaya and I was wondering if massage and soapy establishments more often than not accept credit card?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I have just returned from a nearly 3 week stay in Thailand. I hope this trip report will add something different to what is usually shared.

Through my previous trips I realized that I enjoy more when I can spend a few days with a girl. Some BMs report from time to time about the online dating sites. On another forum I have read extensive discussions on how it can be very fruitful but only if you live in Thailand. I decided to give it a go any ways. I figured, if nothing came out of it, then I could always fall back on oilies, soapies, the freelancers and go-gos!! I setup a profile and starting making contacts about 6 weeks ahead of my trip. I created a standard message and sent it to any girl that looked interesting. Most of the girls probably receive a lot of messages and I figured that it was best to send messages to only those who were online. In most cases they almost immediately read the message and replied (or not). I logged in at least 2-3 times a day. Must confess, it did take a fair bit of time and effort.

I made it clear from the beginning that I was not looking for a serious relationship. Given the strong bias against the Indians in Thailand, I also made it very clear in my profile that I am British Indian, and if anyone had any issues with that then not to bother!

I would say about 60% of the girls with whom an initial contact got made just fell off. The conversation didn't go that far or wasn't interesting. With the girls where there was interest, I asked for their Line ids and it was much easier to chat there. The one downside of the dating websites is that one does not know how many dates it will take before the girl sleeps with you, or if she will even sleep with you! That's been one the most frequently stated reasons for why the sites don't probably work for short time visitors. I just made sure that I pushed it just enough with the girls I was chatting to and it was amazing how quickly it becomes clear which way it will go. I think I lost a few good ones as a result of this approach but by the time I landed in BKK, I had 8 girls that I was sure would sleep on the first date and few more maybes. Interestingly, I never met 2 of the 8 girls and the girl that I ended up spending most time with was on my 'not sure' list.

In terms of how these girls looked, I would say the looks varied from 6-9. The sex varied from awesome to mind blowing with each one of them. They felt genuinely into it. With the girls I spent longer time with, I did not have to initiate it each time. Even when we were outside doing other things, some of the girls were very naughty but very discreet. In fact that made it all the more fun. They would talk dirty, or just brush their hands discreetly. One of the girls had me finger her when we were watching a movie, and at the same time they would all act very 'proper' in public. It really created some great sexual tension which would then end up in passionate love making. It really felt like being with a real girlfriend in the early stages of a relationship.

I was amazed how little it took to sleep with these girls. A dinner and some drinks in a decent place was good enough! Most did show interest in going away on a short holiday and I made it very clear I was not planning on doing that and that was not a show stopper at all! I did treat the girls to nice restaurants and bars but no money was ever exchanged. I am also amazed by the capacity Thai girls have for partying. To be able to get drunk and be up till 3 am and then go to work at 8 am!!

The girl I spent the most time with was 24, beautiful, spoke fluent English and Spanish, had a university degree, worked in an office and was super horny each day first thing in the morning!! I still cannot for the life of me figure out why she would want to spend all that time with me. It was clear to her that I was not going to get into a relationship, she could easily get guys to sleep with her. But who am I to complain!

It was a little bit of a challenge juggling all these girls but because I had not made rigid plans it all worked out pretty well in the end! Of the 19 days in Thailand I ended up spending all the time in Bangkok because there were all these girls to play with. Went on some amazing 'dates', had great conversations, watched movies, went to restaurants that I would not venture to on my own, places where I was the only non-Thai, and did many naughty things as well! The girls being at work during the day gave me time to sleep in and do some of my own work as well!

I did make a couple of trips to Nana and Cowboy, but did not bar fine anyone. I found Spankys to be most fun. Just did not feel like visiting any of the massage parlours. I took 2 girls from Climax and sampled twice from The Den. I really liked the Den, very well done and the quality of girls definitely better than the beer garden. All the girls gave great service but must say that compared to the TF girls, these girls felt too professional. Maybe I have been spoilt!

So in a nutshell, I would agree that TF would work much better if one was living in Thailand but with a little bit of prep and work it can work for the 2 week millionaires as well! I have been back for two days. To be honest, I feel quite lost. Just want to take a flight back to Thailand! Any tips on how get over this hang over will be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1678539]Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.

The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true Republican!

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;1678435]Day 1:

So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).[/QUOTE]Mate,

I would highly recommend visiting Climax and sample some free lancers from there. It closes at 3 am. The going rate is 3000 bhat for an overnight and 2000 for ST. There may be some exceptions, but that's what I ended up with most of the times. They will usually quote more, but stick to your guns and every single time they agree. I would suggest making it very clear whether you are looking for ST or LT. Its on Soi 11, basement of Ambassdor Hotel. Sleeping alone two nights in a row in Bangkok must be a punishable offence Hope the rest of your trip goes great!

[QUOTE=Simian;1678366]13 Kilos in 4 weeks? That is the sort of weight loss that folks who have a duodenal bypass achieve! If you gained a lot of muscle (which weighs a lot more than fat), you probably lost the equivalent of even more kilos of fat. I am sure (or hope) you know the risks of such severe weight-loss which can only be brought about by extremely low calorie diet, in your case in conjunction with a very punishing muscle building regime. Throwing some testosterone supplementation on top of that at the same time could have serious effects on your body long term, especially depending on whether you supplemented with pills or using other delivery systems. I hope that you are just joking about this. But if not, I hope for your sake that you are under the care of a medic given the effect this kind of behaviour can have on your heart and liver, let alone anything else.[/QUOTE]You speak like one these fearful mainstream doctors that to a 110 Kg obese would recommend "reducing calories intake and moderate exercise". My ass. The only thing that this guarantees is that the person would remain an (obese) patient for life.

Anything from 10 Kgs above ideal weight can be effectively solved with one approach only: bootcamp. 13 Kgs in 4 weeks is a little above 3 Kgs a week, thatis definitely achievable. Well done El Vagabundo, even for testosterone taking, now you can be proud of you achievements while Simian thinks of a ways of arranging his belly folds without hurting himself.

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;1678435]So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).[/QUOTE]Your trip announcement says you'll be in Bangkok until Feb 8, are you interested in checking out the Thai places near Saphan Kwai? I'm in Bangkok this weekend and solo, but I don't speak Thai, so it might be easier for two unintelligible foreigners to get along with the Thais than just one.

Let me know if you want to go Friday, Feb 7, tomorrow night.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1678539]Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.

The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.

Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.

If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.[/QUOTE]Just to second this opinion, if you want to cleanse your colon, you can do what they do to patients prior to an colonscopy (when the specialist wants to check your colon for cancer and polyps, which is to put you on a cleansing medication (such as sodium picosulfate but there are a number of others in use in different countries) along with a boiled chicken diet for a prescribed number of days (usually a day or two) - your colon will be as clean as a whistle after that.

Yes, you will feel really good after a colon cleanse but the one involving the medication is easier, quicker and safer.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1678713]You speak like one these fearful mainstream doctors that to a 110 Kg obese would recommend "reducing calories intake and moderate exercise". My ass. The only thing that this guarantees is that the person would remain an (obese) patient for life.

Anything from 10 Kgs above ideal weight can be effectively solved with one approach only: bootcamp. 13 Kgs in 4 weeks is a little above 3 Kgs a week, thatis definitely achievable. Well done El Vagabundo, even for testosterone taking, now you can be proud of you achievements while Simian thinks of a ways of arranging his belly folds without hurting himself.[/QUOTE]Your interest in my body is totally one-way, ONG! I have no interest in sharing what you imagine my belly to be (including your obsession with the imaginary belly folds) with you.

I simply expressed concern for El V and gave my reasons. Apart from the danger to his organs and his life, the problem with what you term "bootcamp" is that he will "yoyo" back to his original weight pretty quick. El V took my friendly concerns like a gentleman while you acted the troll.

By the way, someone can be 110 kilos and not be obese if he has sufficient height to lower his body-mass index below 30. But then I am sure you knew that anyway, ONG, didn't you.

[QUOTE=Simian;1678805]Your interest in my body is totally one-way, ONG! I have no interest in sharing what you imagine my belly to be (including your obsession with the imaginary belly folds) with you.

I simply expressed concern for El V and gave my reasons. Apart from the danger to his organs and his life, the problem with what you term "bootcamp" is that he will "yoyo" back to his original weight pretty quick. El V took my friendly concerns like a gentleman while you acted the troll.

By the way, someone can be 110 kilos and not be obese if he has sufficient height to lower his body-mass index below 30. But then I am sure you knew that anyway, ONG, didn't you.[/QUOTE]I'm happy to disagree with you and your trite arguments.