American Politics

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2561526][URL]https://fortune.com/2020/09/08/trump-pipeline-russia-germany-natural-gas-merkel-navalny-poisoned-nord-stream-2/[/URL]

"there is growing pressure on German Chancellor Angela Merkel to kill the $11 billion scheme. If Merkel does reverse her long-standing support for Nord Stream 2, as she has for the first time hinted she might do, the beneficiary would likely be the USA."

If the election had not been stolen and Trump was still in office, the pipeline would have been cancelled. Unfortunately, former Vice-President Biden's handlers have returned to the era of American weakness.

As for "electric vehicles", LOL, where do you think that electricity comes from? Windmills? Good luck with that.

We can at least agree on Russian girls.[/QUOTE]There has been no credible evidence that the election was stolen. Not one piece of evidence was submitted to courts to support all the wild accusations. There is a specific reason for this. If you present unsubstantiated rumours to a court you can be financially sanctioned and have your license to practice law revoked. All these claims have just been a big scam to raise money for legal fights from all Trumps gullible supporters.

Trump had zero success in stopping Nord stream 2. His sanctions were ignored, his tweets were ignored, he had no leverage and everyone concerned knew that his group of 'z' list administrators had no competence to achieve anything. Pompeo, Navarro, Kudrow, Mnuchin, Kushner, what a joke!

Take a look at the new F150 and you will start to understand the future. It can charge from the home electrical supply and also discharge into it giving the capacity to power a home for 3 -5 days. When the majority of vehicles become electrically powered the batteries will become a huge grid storage able to soak up power during excess supply and feed it in during peak demand making it much easier to manage intermittent supplies from solar and wind turbines.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2561598]There has been no credible evidence that the election was stolen. Not one piece of evidence was submitted to courts to support all the wild accusations. There is a specific reason for this. If you present unsubstantiated rumours to a court you can be financially sanctioned and have your license to practice law revoked. All these claims have just been a big scam to raise money for legal fights from all Trumps gullible supporters.

Trump had zero success in stopping Nord stream 2. His sanctions were ignored, his tweets were ignored, he had no leverage and everyone concerned knew that his group of 'z' list administrators had no competence to achieve anything. Pompeo, Navarro, Kudrow, Mnuchin, Kushner, what a joke!

Take a look at the new F150 and you will start to understand the future. It can charge from the home electrical supply and also discharge into it giving the capacity to power a home for 3 -5 days. When the majority of vehicles become electrically powered the batteries will become a huge grid storage able to soak up power during excess supply and feed it in during peak demand making it much easier to manage intermittent supplies from solar and wind turbines.[/QUOTE]Keep dreaming.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2561453]So right. It is astonishing that anyone who wants the USA Economy to do well would vote for a Republican at any level after Reagan's first presidential term, much less for president.

Not only is the accurate historical record of results for creating USA Jobs crap under Repub presidents compared to Dem presidents, stock market gains border control, paying down the deficit, even crime rate declines have strongly favored Dem presidents over Repub presidents since records for such things have been kept.

Yet, we now have incredibly stupid people storming the Capitol Building, attacking cops, searching out elected officials to shoot and lynch, brandishing and mounting traitorous flags there for the first time in American history, killing, stealing, vandalizing and attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy just so we can have "4 More Years!" of the worst economic "stewardship" and results of all time.

Yes, it probably can't be fixed anytime soon.[/QUOTE]There are more violent people storming federal buildings in Portland every weekend than there was violence on the capital. There are 10 ties more seats in Portland than there ever was at the capital. Where is the outrage for this?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2561453]So right. It is astonishing that anyone who wants the USA Economy to do well would vote for a Republican at any level after Reagan's first presidential term, much less for president.

Not only is the accurate historical record of results for creating USA Jobs crap under Repub presidents compared to Dem presidents, stock market gains border control, paying down the deficit, even crime rate declines have strongly favored Dem presidents over Repub presidents since records for such things have been kept.

Yet, we now have incredibly stupid people storming the Capitol Building, attacking cops, searching out elected officials to shoot and lynch, brandishing and mounting traitorous flags there for the first time in American history, killing, stealing, vandalizing and attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy just so we can have "4 More Years!" of the worst economic "stewardship" and results of all time.

Yes, it probably can't be fixed anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Everyone in the USA can see how Biden is doing compared to Trump at the border except for you. At least when Republicans are in power crime is still illegal. Democratic states along with Biden and Harris make a mockery of the laws in the country. Crime is at its highest level since defunding the police started than ever. You must be proud to be a democrat supporting criminals. When politicians get attacked at the capital it is the worst crime in history. When ordinary people get attacked everyday it is peaceful protests. Democrats and terrorists. One and the same.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2561364]LOL. Biden just took over the presidency. The pipeline is almost complete! You think that was done in 3 months? Nope they had 4 years ignoring Trumps sanctions and non influence. No they were not going to buy US gas when Qatari gas is much cheaper. Qatar is increasing output 50%. Basically all new US gas terminals are on hold because they can't secure the contracts to raise finance.

What has the keystone pipeline got to do with anything? The US isn't paying any more for the oil, the Canadians need to deliver at a competitive price. The objective is that the oil won't be needed at all in 10 years as electric vehicles take over the roads.

The reality is it would have been good if Trump succeeded to cancel Nord stream 2 unfortunately he was grossly incompetent. Anything that provides sustenance and support for Russia is a bad thing. Russian girls need to be kept poor so I can satisfy my infatuation with dyevushkas.[/QUOTE]USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.

[QUOTE=Canada;2561677]USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.[/QUOTE]Finishing the pipeline enabling Germany to acquire Russian fuel is brilliant statesmanship on the part of the Biden Adminstration. Isn't that so much more efficient than transporting gas all the way from North America across an ocean? And they'll be a larger supply of gas in the USA, and at cheaper prices. A win-win for everyone.

[QUOTE=Canada;2561677]USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct the FOB price is a significant discount. For a supposed successful businessman you seem to be clueless on even the most basic of economic principles that the refiners are not going to pay a delivered price to their gate that they cannot buy the same from elsewhere. So they discount the FOB price to cover the transport costs. I guess those who are trapped in a cult where they worship a crime boss whose sole business skills are to get banks to accept big haircuts on loans and money launder Russian crime money are not capable or rational economic analysis.

[QUOTE=Canada;2561677]USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.[/QUOTE]As an experiment, try not posting for a full week and then report to us if you feel better or worse.

[QUOTE=Canada;2561674]Everyone in the USA can see how Biden is doing compared to Trump at the border except for you. At least when Republicans are in power crime is still illegal. Democratic states along with Biden and Harris make a mockery of the laws in the country. Crime is at its highest level since defunding the police started than ever. You must be proud to be a democrat supporting criminals. When politicians get attacked at the capital it is the worst crime in history. When ordinary people get attacked everyday it is peaceful protests. Democrats and terrorists. One and the same.[/QUOTE][b]"We saw the increases (of unaccompanied minors at the southern U.S. border) dating back almost a year."
MOSTLY TRUE[/b]
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/17/veronica-escobar/did-increase-children-arriving-border-start-under-/

[b]2020 Ends as One of America's Most Violent Years in Decades.[/b]
[URL]https://time.com/5922082/2020-gun-violence-homicides-record-year/[/URL]#text=Gun%20 violence%20 and%20 gun%20 crime, firearm%2 Drelated%20 incidents%20 in%202020.

I forget. Who was the so-called president in 2020?

[QUOTE=Canada;2561674]....When politicians get attacked at the capital it is the worst crime in history. When ordinary people get attacked everyday it is peaceful protests. Democrats and terrorists. ....[/QUOTE]Did you have Covid19? (or doesn't exist for you) - it attacks the brain!

Sara Boboltz.

Sara Boboltz·Reporter, HuffPost.

Sun, May 23,2021, 4:27 AM·3 min read.

"The Associated Press reporter who was fired after right-wing media and activists worked to destroy her reputation over views she expressed about Israel and Palestine while in college said Saturday that the wire service made her "a scapegoat. "

The reporter, Emily Wilder, who is Jewish, was terminated on Wednesday after three weeks on the job, sparking an immediate outcry from others in the news media.

She had been targeted by the Stanford College Republicans ― a group of college-age conservatives from her alma mater ― for criticizing Zionists including the late billionaire Trump supporter Sheldon Adelson over social media and participating in a group called Students for Justice in Palestine.

Wilder said in a statement that she was fired for violating the AP's social media policy, which the wire service also confirmed in a statement this week. But according to Wilder, AP management never told her which posts supposedly constituted a violation when she asked.

Conservative media and Republicans with large followings, including Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), amplified the Stanford College Republicans' pressure campaign against the wire service. "

[QUOTE=Canada;2561673]There are more violent people storming federal buildings in Portland every weekend than there was violence on the capital. There are 10 ties more seats in Portland than there ever was at the capital. Where is the outrage for this?[/QUOTE]Exactly the point. Downtown Portland, Seattle, and SF have been destroyed by left wing radicals (Antifa and BLM), the incompetent Democrat Mayors and Governors who allowed the rioting to go on and on, and the corrupt corporate media that would not report the mayhem objectively because what was going on ran counter to their story line of peaceful demonstrations. This is eerily similar to what occurred in the final years of the Weimar Republic. Read the history!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2561759]
[URL]https://time.com/5922082/2020-gun-violence-homicides-record-year/[/URL]#text=Gun%20 violence%20 and%20 gun%20 crime, firearm%2 Drelated%20 incidents%20 in%202020.

I forget. Who was the so-called president in 2020?[/QUOTE]You seem to forget who is in charge of New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA, Baltimore, and Detroit. These are all one party Democrat controlled cities and have been for 50 years or more and they all have incompetent left wing mayors and governors, plus a new phenomenon, radical, rogue, democrat district attorneys who refuse to enforce the law (no cash bail). So things are only going to get worse in American cities, much worse and more violent. For example, last week there was an election in Philadelphia for district attorney between a moderate Democrat, Carlos Vega, who said he would enforce the law (cash bail) and a radical Democrat, Larry Krasner, who said he would not enforce the law (no cash bail). Guess who won?

So ETh, you can try to pin everything on Trump and I am sure there are many like minded BM's who will agree with you, but you could not be more mistaken. I don't think you have an accurate picture of what is going on in the USA or maybe you do and you support the insanity. I don't know you that will to make the assessment, but I do know that all this is insanity is happening for a reason and that this may very well be the last days of the American Republic. Is that what you really want?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2561857]Exactly the point. Downtown Portland, Seattle, and SF have been destroyed by left wing radicals (Antifa and BLM), the incompetent Democrat Mayors and Governors who allowed the rioting to go on and on, and the corrupt corporate media that would not report the mayhem objectively because what was going on ran counter to their story line of peaceful demonstrations. This is eerily similar to what occurred in the final years of the Weimar Republic.[/QUOTE]Holler on Chicken Little. You just violated Godwin's Law and lose by default.

[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Godwin%27s%20Law[/URL]

There's a long history in America of peaceful protests associated with racial tensions and Civil Rights. There's also often been opportunists around the fringes looting and the like. Very few murders in the Pacific Northwest can be attributed to BLM or Antifa members. Also Antifa has attacked the Democratic headquarters in Portland, and are anarchists with little in common with your typical Democrats. Seeing that you claim to like to read, dig in.

[URL]https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/202...old-to-71.html[/URL]

There also were plenty of arrests during these events last summer.

[URL]https://www.koin.com/news/protests/p...ough-feb-2021/[/URL]

Some of the deaths were associated with wingnut counter protestors, or were entirely unrelated to either cause.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ri...ed-november-1/[/URL]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-con...ry?id=72724790[/URL]

Here's the bottom line though, you and the corporate media (Fox Media Corporation) desperately want to move on from January 6th but nothing is working. Downplaying while re-writing history isn't working, nor is whataboutism. You and Trumpism are stuck with it, spreading stolen election lies that no court has taken seriously, fueling a mob with gallows, zip ties, bombs, and foreign flags murdering police officers while sacking the Capital and trying to stop an election certification. History will remember this for centuries after you've long been in the grave. In them meantime reasonable, patriotic Americans won't let you forget it either.

I had some links fail to function, though the articles are still active as I just confirmed. Here they are again. If they fail to work then the issue is internal to ISG.

[URL]https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/01/55-homicides-in-portland-in-2020-the-most-in-26-years-involved-victims-from-8-months-old-to-71.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.koin.com/news/protests/portland-protest-arrests-by-the-numbers-through-feb-2021/[/URL]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-connected-protests-story-complicated/story?id=72724790[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-delayed-november-1/[/URL]

[QUOTE=GDreams;2561847]"The Associated Press reporter who was fired after right-wing media and activists worked to destroy her reputation over views she expressed about Israel and Palestine while in college said Saturday that the wire service made her "a scapegoat. "

She had been targeted by the Stanford for criticizing Zionists including the late billionaire Trump supporter Sheldon Adelson over social media and participating in a group called Students for Justice in Palestine.

Wilder said in a statement that she was fired for violating the AP's social media policy [/QUOTE]This woman had the temerity to touch the third rail in American politics. FYI: this can't be used this as an example of Republican intolerance or whatever. Both parties are on board, bought and paid for to sell out you the taxpaying American citizen on behalf of Zionist supremacism.