Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3014785]This is AWESOME info as it was exactly what I was looking for since I would be a first timer to Brazil! So it seems these termas are just scaled down versions of FKK clubs in Germany where there is still an entrance fee but at least the costs to session with a girl inhouse is fixed for each venue, ie. , no big surprises. I'll live with the fact that there likely won't be any included buffet food or drinks like at the FKKs. For the overall costs to session there, I can't help but compare them to the monger scene we have in Toronto which is basically just incalls and outcalls. Average incall for 30 minutes in Toronto is about $180 Canadian and 60 minutes $260 Canadian.

So when I look at the Rio terma numbers, I figure that the equivalents for a single session would be as follows for each of the main termas; 4 x4 = 520 BR or $128 Cad, Solarium = 800 BR or $197 Cad, Centaurus = 690 BR or $170 Cad and Monte Carlo = 750 BR or $185 Cad. At first glance I was surprised that the Centaurus figure was lower than both Solarium and Monte Carlo then I realized that number is for a 40 minute session while the other three venues are for one hour sessions.

However, the duration of each session might not matter to me as much since I'm a one shot guy these days at my age. I know in Toronto, many guys who book an hour for sessions like to get in at least two shots. I usually do 30 minutes to get in one shot which is all I need so I'm looking at the Rio numbers as a cost per shot (if I even fire one). This would put the Rio termas at about the same rate as in Toronto if on a shot basis although on a duration basis they are still lower than in my rip off Toronto scene.

Ideally, I wouldn't want to come all the way down to Brazil from Canada just to pay about the same or even higher mongering prices as in Toronto though. It would kind of defeat the purpose of a trip unless we can debate that it's Brazilian girls we are talking about here in Rio as well as the touristy stuff. But that's why 4 x4 does seem very attractive to me.

I might do one of the big three (Solarium, Monte Carlo or Centaurus) just for the experience but ideally the rest of the time would be at 4 x4 or any other similar level termas available -- maybe termas 65 or others you gents might recommend?[/QUOTE]I know you said your a one shot guy but I don't believe it. With a couple hours rest and a duo blowjob? I bet you could nail it. The math is so much better when you spread out the fixed costs. Like you are figuring a MC is 750. But that's 150+200+400. So if you take a girl sure thst first girl is 750. But what if two hours later you take TWO girls to get off that second shot. That's only 1000 for two girls! Because the entry is already paid. And they don't double charge the room. So adding that second girl is only 400R. Like less than $80 usd.

Best way to get your moneys worth. Of course this is what led to the famous night of four duos! The cheap math just had me by the balls!!!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014818]Like you are figuring a MC is 750. But that's 150+200+400. So if you take a girl sure thst first girl is 750. But what if two hours later you take TWO girls to get off that second shot. That's only 1000 for two girls! Because the entry is already paid. And they don't double charge the room. So adding that second girl is only 400R. Like less than $80 usd.

Best way to get your moneys worth. Of course this is what led to the famous night of four duos! The cheap math just had me by the balls!!![/QUOTE]Classic cases of letting your eyes overload your ass and spending money trying to save money. Know when to say when.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014818]I know you said your a one shot guy but I don't believe it. With a couple hours rest and a duo blowjob? I bet you could nail it. The math is so much better when you spread out the fixed costs. Like you are figuring a MC is 750. But that's 150+200+400. So if you take a girl sure thst first girl is 750. But what if two hours later you take TWO girls to get off that second shot. That's only 1000 for two girls! Because the entry is already paid. And they don't double charge the room. So adding that second girl is only 400R. Like less than $80 usd.

Best way to get your moneys worth. Of course this is what led to the famous night of four duos! The cheap math just had me by the balls!!![/QUOTE]Sadly in my case, I can't do what I assume most of you guys can do -- I'm 64 years old and very fortunate to be able to get a single shot per 24 hours. So that's why I did my numbers the way I did.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3003343]Clubs / boates / FL bars.

Most of the boates or bars / clubs with freelancers or GDP (garota de programa / working girl) I went to were in the Copacabana area. Usually have an admission and take out fee. You usually have to negotiate with the girl regarding service, price and time.

Dolce Vita. Copacabana.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/8puM9ghwDoVT6ibd7[/URL]

Night club with loud music, dark disco lighting and good energy. Mostly Hip Hop, rap, funk, with some rock and EDM. Basically music to appeal to gringo tourists. Doesn't get going until after 12:30 or 1 am. Lots of terma, online, MABS, etc. Girls come here after their shift. 50-75 girls of all shapes and sizes. I always see some baddies here. Lots of gringo tourists. Beware of miscount of drinks on your bill. For a place packed with gringos, the girls were surprisingly the least sharky, most chill and offered the best pricing of all the clubs in the area, probably because the girls are mostly freelancers.

50 entrance and 150 takeout / Saida fee. You negotiate with girl directly. Usually 4-600 for ST and 600 to 1,200 for LT. No option to fuck on site. Take them to your place or a love motel.

Casablanca. Copacabana.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Fi2U69iFUpdnb9RSA[/URL]

Nightclub catering to gringo tourists. Decent lighting and good talent. A bit tourist trappy. Some girls have golden pussy syndrome and asks for the moon. But if you are experienced monger, you can do fine here. Good place to just collect digits as well, as many of the girls are more chill outside of the club, where they don't need to be hawking drinks or have the other girls or club management watching their every move. Have the occasional strip shows. There is an option to fuck in house, but never tried so can't comment.

100 entrance which includes 2 drinks. 300 takeout / Saida fee.

Marrakech. Copacabana.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Fi2U69iFUpdnb9RSA[/URL]

Sister nightclub to Casablanca catering to gringo tourists. Decent lighting and good talent. A bit tourist trappy as well. Talent is less than Casablanca. Have some strip shows. Good place to just collect digits as well. There is an option to fuck in house, but never tried so can't comment.

100 entrance which includes 2 drinks. 300 takeout / Saida fee.
.[/QUOTE]Great info here as well! I am a bit confused though. If these venues are generally bars and clubs that have a lot of FLs, then why would there be a take out fee? I can understand if the girl works for the bar much like those in Thailand where there is a bar fine. But if the girls are FLs, how is this tied to a takeout fee? If FLs can come and go as they please, what's stopping them from meeting with you outside the club to bypass such a takeout fee? I guess what I'm saying is that I'm equating take out fee to a bar fine in Thailand and don't understand the rationale if the girls are FLs who are not really working for the bar.

Monte Carlo is 980 reals for 1 HR. Chica-500, room-300, entry-180. Termas are charging more than online. Looks like online is providing cheaper bargains. PA had girls coming over for 350 -400 reals. 2 hours with a hot online chica is equivalent to 1 hour at some terms.

Vagabundo and tavares went to 4 x 4 last night. Lyza, a cute nordestina who is about 5 foot 4 with nice big tatas did a live strip show with sexo ao vivo live sex show with eighteen gangsta pretos while the DJ Zoli played the killers and videotaped the show for her one true love, a ISGer who had a heart attack and is stuck back in Newfoundland eating Sea Lion Flipper burgers while he recuperates to rehabilitate his heart so he can once again take his virgin bride, Lyza, back to the family ranch in Barra. *Selah.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3014731]In 2089, Vagabundo, aged 120 to the day shall die here, trading hoars and options on a thinkpad with dozens of hoar nurse Negra mulatta Morena loiras and our 83,345 children and great grandchildren, all vested into a LTDA that owns billions of reais and dolars in Rio de Janeiro property, thus concluding the book of deuternonomy. Selah. / s /*Moses,*By*Dir.

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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3014833]Great info here as well! I am a bit confused though. If these venues are generally bars and clubs that have a lot of FLs, then why would there be a take out fee? I can understand if the girl works for the bar much like those in Thailand where there is a bar fine. But if the girls are FLs, how is this tied to a takeout fee? If FLs can come and go as they please, what's stopping them from meeting with you outside the club to bypass such a takeout fee? I guess what I'm saying is that I'm equating take out fee to a bar fine in Thailand and don't understand the rationale if the girls are FLs who are not really working for the bar.[/QUOTE]I only frequent Dolce Vita so for Dolce Vita the girls don't pay anything in the club, no entrance fee and I've never seen them pay for a drink. So the club has to make money by charging you these fees, after all they set up the venue and it attracts the girls and when you enter the girls are there available to you. If they charged the girls and didn't charge you the fees I would imagine they wouldn't attract as many girls as they do. If you want to dance you got to pay the band. I would imagine it's the same idea in the other clubs, these clubs only attract working girls. Now you can play games like standing on the street and picking the girls up before they go in but I like to go in have a few drinks, talk to a few girls, maybe dance a little and have some fun, I always have fun there but it does cost you. I don't go to Rio that often plus I'm at the age where spending that kind of money for a night out doesn't bother me any more, when I was younger sure I had less money and would try any angle to save money, now I just want to have fun.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3014149]A few weeks ago I fucked an escort who came to my place, told me she had never done this before and asked if she could massage only. I asked her to talk to the guy who sent her (who supplies me with escorts). She did so then entered my room and began to strip then we were off to the races. After the deed we began to chat, she told me that she was a law student. She also told me that she was not doing it for money (very curious). She also told me that I was very good in bed, much better than her boyfriend. I then told her I would be booking her every time I want to fuck and she said great. I took her whatsapp. I subsequently contacted her, no response to date. I contacted the guy who sent her, he said she no longer works. What do you call her?[/QUOTE]I would call her a smart working girl spinning a good story to turn men on. If you ever watched the movie The Mechanic with Charles Bronson he is with an escort and she reads him a letter she wrote to him while he was away. The next morning he left her the money on the dresser and told her that the letter was a nice touch, I left you extra for that, try to come up with something new next time. A lot of men like to be stimulated mentally and it sounds like this girl understood that whether she was a law student or not, that also could have been part of the story.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3014962]I only frequent Dolce Vita so for Dolce Vita the girls don't pay anything in the club, no entrance fee and I've never seen them pay for a drink. So the club has to make money by charging you these fees, after all they set up the venue and it attracts the girls and when you enter the girls are there available to you. If they charged the girls and didn't charge you the fees I would imagine they wouldn't attract as many girls as they do. If you want to dance you got to pay the band. I would imagine it's the same idea in the other clubs, these clubs only attract working girls. Now you can play games like standing on the street and picking the girls up before they go in but I like to go in have a few drinks, talk to a few girls, maybe dance a little and have some fun, I always have fun there but it does cost you. I don't go to Rio that often plus I'm at the age where spending that kind of money for a night out doesn't bother me any more, when I was younger sure I had less money and would try any angle to save money, now I just want to have fun.[/QUOTE]I guess that is the big difference between Help and DV. If the girls had to pay an entrance fee and didn't make a cut of our drink bill, they would be way more motivated to go with a client for a decent price. Instead of holding out for 6-800 R for 1 hour. A couple of nights of paying for an Uber, entrance fees and drinks and these girls would start taking 3-400 R an hour because they are already in the hole for the nights when they didn't get a client.

Also, never pay the 75 R take out fee at Dolce Vita. Just swap whatsapp numbers with the girl and text her when you get to your place and give her the address.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3014972]I guess that is the big difference between Help and DV. If the girls had to pay an entrance fee and didn't make a cut of our drink bill, they would be way more motivated to go with a client for a decent price. Instead of holding out for 6-800 R for 1 hour. A couple of nights of paying for an Uber, entrance fees and drinks and these girls would start taking 3-400 R an hour because they are already in the hole for the nights when they didn't get a client.

Also, never pay the 75 R take out fee at Dolce Vita. Just swap whatsapp numbers with the girl and text her when you get to your place and give her the address.[/QUOTE]This is so different from other destinations I've been to. Any bar or night club that has a lot of freelancers generally don't have bar fines or take out fees. Thermae Cafe in Bangkok has a one drink purchase as the entry fee for us and I don't think they charge the girls. I've never been to the night clubs in Pattaya where the girls go after their bar shifts are over so I can't comment on entry fees but certainly no reports of take out fees. Same thing with the now closed Cafe Foto in Panama where there were no fees whatsoever. Even years ago when I went to Sosua, the freelancer club there had no fees either. So the setup in Rio is quite strange and I would think not that easy to enforce easy.

Forgot to put my review form my last trip to Rio.

This time I stayed for more than one night since I was meeting up my boys for a few days before our crazy week in SP. All of us were at the JW Copacabana and it was pretty much the same as all the other times.

First evening I met up with friends at 4 x4 and it was a shit show as usual. Nothing interesting and my friends took their girls in house while I chose takeout. She didn't charge more than the takeout fee except for a uber home and we left. Dinner on the beach and back to the room. She did her job as you would expect and left the next day after breakfast and I didn't ask for another shot. Nothing special and didn't get her contact as I wouldn't repeat.

Saturday night we had a table booked at Vitrinni and since it starts late, we planned a nice omakase dinner at San Omakase (worth it), stop by Perola Negra and then on to Vitrinni around 1130 pm. Perola had a bunch of girls working and and there were less than a handful that I "might" session with. Some posters talk about a beach view, but you can't see the beach from inside and the smoking patio has a wall so I guess you have to step outside the club to get the beach view. Some also compare the quality to Scandello so that tells me that they have either never been to Scandello or are just lying to themselves. So we bailed after half an hour and went to Vitrinni.

Vitrinni is a nightclub that has a lot of working girls hanging around which is cool in a sense that there are a lot of options but you don't know exactly who is working or not. So you need to proceed with caution. We had booked a table for the evening and it came out to $120 USD per person in our group for alcohol, mixers and some food. Not a bad deal. We also had our own waiter and we could ask him to bring the girls to us. As the night wore on, we tried talking to different girls but there was really nothing interesting that caught my eye and music was loud as fuck. So I would head to the patio to take a break and see what I could find. Eventually, I think around 230 am I found a tall skinny girl who was decent and smiled at me so I decided to talk to her. She charged 1 k to stay the night and leave the next day after breakfast. My friends didn't find anything so we left around 3/330 am. FYI entering Vitrinni is a pain the ass. The fucking security guys give you a full inspection, like every nook and cranny before they let you thru, and they held onto my weed vape till I left because it isn't allowed inside. Got to the hotel after that long ass drive, BBFS and fell asleep. Woke up and got one more shot and she left and took her contact. Will I repeat? No. Would I go back to Vitrinni nope. Not worth it. Too damn far unless you are staying in Barra.

Sunday night we chose to hit up Mabs to watch the NBA finals and I wasn't going to try anything since I know the quality is usually shit at Mabs. We get a table and look around and sure enough not a single girl I would take home unless I had at least a bootle of gin inside me. So we figure we will watch the game and call it an early night. Around halftime, I see these two girls walking up to Mabs and they are both GND and pretty cute. One is a short redhead and the other is a light skinned black girl. I figure they are just regular girls and will walk past. They walk past but stop at one corner of Mabs and they are debating something with each other. As they are talking they get approached by a guy at another table and I figured that he would take them but nope. Nothing happens. So I look over to the red head who is cute and smile and she smiles back and I wave her over but she doesn't come. I know from past posters that if you like something at Mabs, get on it quick or it gets snapped up. So I walk over and ask them to join us and they say yes. They sit down and one of my friends says he will take the redhead and I was like 👍127997; . I will take the other depending on price. Price settled was for R500 to stay till she was done and her friend were done. Back at the hotel, she did a pretty decent job but she said this isn't something her and her firms do on the regular and it was BBFS without discussing it. I did show her my tests and vasectomy when we finished to put her at ease though. Her friend who went with my friend took longer than she thought because of some issue they were having so I let her go so I could get a good nights sleep to rest up for SP in two days. Just for the price alone, I would repeat so I took her contact.

Last day and we chilled on the beach. While walking back from lunch, I ran into a girl I had been with from 4 x4 and she wanted to set up a meeting. So I said ok since the girl above wasn't answering her messages to meet later. I wanted something during the day so I could sleep early at night as I knew we would have a long day ahead the next day. She comes over and within 15 minutes, I remembered why I had a terrible time with her the last time. Tossed her and made a permanent mental note of never again.

Overall, I know this sounds like a good time in Rio but none of the girls were my type. I did it to get the poison out before my time in SP and won't probably be spending this much time in Rio again.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3014833]Great info here as well! I am a bit confused though. If these venues are generally bars and clubs that have a lot of FLs, then why would there be a take out fee? I can understand if the girl works for the bar much like those in Thailand where there is a bar fine. But if the girls are FLs, how is this tied to a takeout fee? If FLs can come and go as they please, what's stopping them from meeting with you outside the club to bypass such a takeout fee? I guess what I'm saying is that I'm equating take out fee to a bar fine in Thailand and don't understand the rationale if the girls are FLs who are not really working for the bar.[/QUOTE]They aren't completely FLs. My understanding is that they need to stay until a certain time at Casablanca. Like 3 or 4 am, otherwise they pay a fine the next time they come. Something like that. I have had girls come over after their shifts before, but it sucks being so late. I have also used the exit fee to negotiate the girls down another 200-300 r before with success. Last of all, you can do onsite. I've done 1 x, but it's basically a small room with a padded ledge and the bathroom is outside of the room, next to where the girls change. Not exactly romantic LOL.

Last thing, for the love of god, do not fall for their champagne girl drink minimum BS. First of all, the champagne is horrible and will give you the worst hangover ever (believe me). Second, with some persuasion they will let you buy the girls other more reasonable drinks. If you absolutely must buy them champagne I implore you to not drink it yourself!

Love Anaggies detailed reports as always. This one speaks volumes about Rio vs SP. In SP he pulled off the Skittles challenge. A blond, a brunette, and a redhead all at the same time. And in Rio he could barely find a girl he liked! Nuff said. Night and day.

Actually when I think about it, the most accurate statement would be to say that Copa + Centro = the majority of the action. And yeah, I agree that Solarium can get really crowded, but if you're a noob and haven't been you got to see! And a good fuck can make up for Solarium's faults (including distance) if you ask me. Monger on!

Bandwidth, Internet Speed Test, Poor People Problems, Upper Class Problems.

From a internet speed test at centro trading bitcoin, a gamer laptop of thinkpad T14 quality or better is required for trading, not a thinkpad x1 carbon, which does not allow for option chains optiontrader and risk navigator on ibkr trader work station TWS, which I found today when I went to my favorite prive with wingman taveres in tow. He is a great wingman as he speaks portoguese, but he needs to get a phone which has internet, and I gave him a sim chip which he has trouble getting internet on because hotel novotel where he is staying has a firewall. I have a internet modem here independent, and I will miss it when I move to posto 2 apartment which has some firewall internet. I will be moving on 31 August.

Great session today in my favorite prive, distracted by the internet issues. 55 minutes of fucking out of 60 for 230/55 or 4 ish cost per fuck per minute CPFPM. We actually sang felipe ret out loud. So there's your pro tip again. Play Felipe Ret album completo.

Anne amari comes over and I need to pay for uber and I fucking hate this as I need to DOWN to the fucking street, and go through some camera security system, which doesn't work unless I take off my cap as I am growing my fidel castro beard.

And that is a poor people problem I don't want any more. As cat pays for her own uber.

My hedge fund mentor uses a Thinkpad t14's, so I am picking a Thinkpad T14 amazon refurbished, so that is vagabundo's great packing tip of the day.

Bitcoin trading packing list.

Thinkpad t14 amazon renewed for 330 USD on amazon, 3. 4 pounds, 14 pounds, should fit into a camelback. At 330 USD, it is truly just a street laptop, some one with a gun asks for it, it is fuck you money, or more correctly, something you could lose, a burner laptop if there is such a thing.

The Thinkpad Extreme works well enough but it is 15.6 inches and doesn't fit in a camelback.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3014786]Thanks to isgers qninja and yb5011 for courier ing in laptops and other gear in the August. Sept timeframe.

You are great SWISS NAVY Admirals, and hereby promoted the Fleet Admirals, SWISS NAVY![/QUOTE]