Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1547564]Tip, tax, it's the same in my book. I paid an airport use tax on my ticket so I consider this redundant. Unless this tax pays for the dudes playing Merengue on arrival. Then I guess it's ok.[/QUOTE]No it is a tax that goes to central government, not to the guys who play the tunes. Most people would regard $10 per passenger as excessive for a tip for those guys who play the same few bars as each tourist approaches and shake a hat for pennies. The tourist tax is only payed on arrival, but the bachata band guys play on both arrivals and departures. Mostly they collect on departures because people give them the small change pesos they got stuck with in the duty free shop.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdUTTOiFD0[/url]

The reason the tax is not included in your ticket price is that natural born or naturalized Dominicans do not have to pay it and the airlines can't make that determination.

Here in Florida if we buy a computer online from Tiger Direct which is based in Florida, we have to pay an extra 7% sales tax plus variable county taxes, but people who order from out of state don't have to pay it unless they live in a handful of other states that charge various rates of sales tax. See how this works? Not everyone pays the same price. It is a bit similar to that business with the tourist tax in the DR. Some people are exempt from paying it. Of course some people cheat by various manoeuvers, for example mailing something to a friend who lives just over the border in Georgia. Such is life.

The rest of your report was excellent, by the way.

Actually there are two parts to the tourist tax, but most people only see the first part, a $10 fee for a stay of up to 30 days, however if you stay MORE THAN 30 DAYS, then additional fees kick in based on length of stay, as follows.

[url]http://www.migracion.gob.do/web/tarifas.php[/url]

025 Menor de 30 dias Hasta 3 meses 800. 00 .

026 Mayor de 3 mese Hasta 9 meses 1, 000. 00 .

027 Mayor de 9 meses Hasta 1 año 2, 500. 00 .

028 Mayor de 1 año Hasta 1 año why 6 meses 4, 000. 00 .

029 Mayor de 1 año why medio Hasta 2 años 5, 000. 00 .

030 Mayor de 2 años Hasta 2 años why 6 meses 6, 500. 00 .

031 Mayor de 2 años why medio Hasta 3 años 9, 000. 00 .

032 Mayor de 3 años Hasta 5 años 14, 000. 00 .

033 Mayor de 5 años Hasta 7 años 17, 000. 00 .

034 Mayor de 7 años en adelante por see / año adicional 500. 00 .

These fees (or tips if you like) will be charged to you on departure, based on the date of entry stamped in your passport. In Santo Domingo you can go straight to the overstay tax desk and pay, then take your receipt to the passport control officer. I think it is the same in Santiago, not sure about Puerto Plata as I have not used that airport in the last few years.

At Santiago and Santo Domingo they normally look at your passport where your place of birth is shown when they issue the card on arrival. They may be a bit slack at Puerto Plata. In any case, if you try to pass through the tarjeta collection check point without one, you will be sent back (I see it all the time with people who do not know about purchasing the tourist card) , or if you explain that you are Dominican born, I imagine they might check your place of birth on your non Dominican passport to verify this claim. It probably is not worth trying to cheat to save $10.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1547559]Well, I would not bring a $700 laptop, wristwatch, phone, camera, piece of jewelry, or a $700 anything else if I was planning to spend a few days screwing chicas in Sosua. Maybe that makes me eccentric.[/quote]What you decide not to bring for whatever reason is your business. Were not in HS here, where everybody has to feel a certain way just because you don't want to do something.

[quote]The valuables that you can't avoid bringing are your passport, driver's license, cash, and a debit or credit card, and managing these items and not losing them is all the stress I want.[/quote]Great, nobody else thinks in your head anyway, so I doubt what might stress you will affect anybody else one way or the other. It hasnt up to this point.

[quote]The percentage of people carrying the latest model $700 phones in the DR is much, much lower than in the US. Of course chicas value their phones, but hardly any have the latest $700 models, and even so they often have their phones stolen or lose them. Phones are particularly vulnerable because people carry them with them, place them on restaurant tables, lay them down to wash their hands, have sex, etc. They can fall out of pants pockets when sitting down in taxis.

I have no particular agenda. I just want guys to have happy and safe trips and great sex.[/QUOTE]And guess what? Those chicas it's happened to eventually get another one and tries to be more careful in the future. Thats life. That can happen with the passport, credit card, cash or drivers license. The expense of the phone isn't the most important issue. Also, the % of who is carrying the latest model or if it cost $700 is irrelevant. The point is, any device one possesses may be valuable to that individual. And since you refuse to grasp a basic point, I am going to say it a little differently. In the DR people from all over own devices that are valuable to them. The device may be considered expensive to them as well. In spite of that, many people (dominicans, foreigners, expats etc) are owning and using these devices daily and not had problems with theft or loss just because they are in the DR. What you are talking about is not enough reason for a person to entertain not buying an expensive device, nor a reason not to bring it on vacation.

Moreover, many folks can afford such devices, have no problem buying another one if the need arises. Now if you can't do that or have a problem doing that for whatever reason, thats entirely your issue alone. If the theft or loss of an expensive phone is going to cause you grief and sorrow, again thats all on you. For you to come on here to claim it's asinine to buy an expensive phone or to have a US sim card in the phone in the DR, you got something else going on besides supposedly trying to help people.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1547612]What you decide not to bring for whatever reason is your business. Were not in HS here, where everybody has to feel a certain way just because you don't want to do something.

Great, nobody else thinks in your head anyway, so I doubt what might stress you will affect anybody else one way or the other. It hasnt up to this point.

And guess what? Those chicas it's happened to eventually get another one and tries to be more careful in the future. Thats life. That can happen with the passport, credit card, cash or drivers license. The expense of the phone isn't the most important issue. Also, the % of who is carrying the latest model or if it cost $700 is irrelevant. The point is, any device one possesses may be valuable to that individual. And since you refuse to grasp a basic point, I am going to say it a little differently. In the DR people from all over own devices that are valuable to them. The device may be considered expensive to them as well. In spite of that, many people (dominicans, foreigners, expats etc) are owning and using these devices daily and not had problems with theft or loss just because they are in the DR. What you are talking about is not enough reason for a person to entertain not buying an expensive device, nor a reason not to bring it on vacation.

Moreover, many folks can afford such devices, have no problem buying another one if the need arises. Now if you can't do that or have a problem doing that for whatever reason, thats entirely your issue alone. If the theft or loss of an expensive phone is going to cause you grief and sorrow, again thats all on you. For you to come on here to claim it's asinine to buy an expensive phone or to have a US sim card in the phone in the DR, you got something else going on besides supposedly trying to help people.[/QUOTE]To make it simple, and get back more on topic issues, why don't you guys agree that if you bring your shit, it is at your own risk, and if you get ripped off promise to not complain about it here?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1547513]Fair comment, Bimmy. I am sure 99% of guys have a good time in Sosua without following all my advice, and 90% have a good time without following any of it.

But remember the context in which I posted it. I was replying to someone who was so nervous after reading all the horror stories online that he might not visit the DR at all. Which would be a shame and quite unnecessary. I went way over the top to try and ensure a 99. 9% safe environment for him.

A quicker way would have been to say "go to Blackbeards or Field of Dreams" but from the tone of your post I would imagine you would be the first to agree that he would be missing out on a lot by doing that,

However you have shamed me into modifying my rather smartass and over-casual comments as above [b]in bold[/b].[/QUOTE]While you're in your retracting mode, Pooter, you may want to revisit why you called me a pervert a couple posts back. Totally uncalled for.

Unless you want to explain to the group why you came to that conclusion?

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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1547517]Reminds me of an older guy a while back who said he has never had a cell phone and can't understand why others own them. I'm sitting wih a chica in La Sirena in San Francisco and there is a table full of people playing with expensive devices.[/QUOTE]I did not know there was a La Sirena in SFM. The only one I have been to is in Moca, on the way to SFM. But perhaps this is a new store?

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1547552]That's what the guy told me and that is what I will try the next time around. I love to tip. I tip the waiters and waitresses in the bars and restaurants, I tip the cab drivers. I tip the service staff in the hotel. But I hate being forced to pay a tip to enter just because I was not born there.[/QUOTE]LOL. You pay "tip" to many countries as you enter but they might be invisible to you as it is often included in the airline ticket price. I recall this very well during my Asia trips. Given that you know Thailand, it is the same there. Once one had to pay separately and then they changed the rules so you may not even know.

Can anyone comment on the road that takes one from San Francisco de Macoris to the North Coast (at Gasper Hernandez) via Tenares? Google map is showing some strange routing on checking directions and I was wondering if the road condition is comparable to the one at Luperon that brings you to Sosua across the mountain from Santiago.

Thanks in advance!

Frannie, that's a lot of info on tourist taxes.

Yes, I understand how it's supposed to work. And I understand the concept of the tax. In theory, the immigration agent that stamps your passport should look at the receipt and if she doesn't see it she should send you back to the tax collector to pay your tourist tax. In practice, that's not how it seems to work, at least not for me in Puerto Plata. The agent that collects the tax told me that I should have said that I was born in DR and I wouldn't have had to pay the tax. He gave me the receipt when I paid and I put it in my pocket. The immigration agent that stamped my passport never saw the receipt.

Like I stated in my post, this is not for everybody to try. If you can speak decent Spanish, look Hispanic, or can pass for Hispanic, you might give it a try.

The hassle might not be worth it for some travelers. Then again, some enjoy the challenge of seeing what they can learn, what they can get away with, and trying something they might not normally try in their everyday lives.

It's not too different than the guys who recommend arriving travelers go upstairs to the departure hall to catch a taxi to avoid the taxi fee in Bangkok, or the guys who recommend trying to take the employee airport shuttle from the airport into the city. In Macau, I regularly take the casino shuttle from the ferry terminal to the casinos and store my luggage in the casino baggage check before I promptly walk out of the casino and straight to the nearest sauna for my good time. I don't spend a dime in the casino, yet I use their services. I do tip the agent at the baggage check, and the driver of the shuttle.

I see this as just another way of trying to save a penny here and a penny there. If anybody is in any way uncomfortable trying it, then I definitely recommend just paying the $10 and avoiding the stress.

Again, the tourist tax collecting agent himself told me I should have said I was born in the DR. I didn't invent the scheme. I just passed it on to my fellow mongers.

I am glad you enjoyed my post, as I enjoyed putting it together. I hope it can help someone who has never been there visualize what they will see and experience when they get to Sosua. It is definitely not all the gloom and doom that some report. If anyone is thinking of going there, stop thinking and just go. It is too easy to have a great time there.

Remember that those of us who live in Gringoland have much more money than those in Sosua. The average waitress in a restaurant earns the equivalent of $7. 50USD per day for a 12 hour day. 6 days per week. One of my friends told me that the people in DR don't work to live, they work to survive.

You pay the chicas anywhere from $1000DOP to $2500DOP for between a half hour to two hours of work. It is not difficult to give a bartender or waiter or waitress $100DOP for their service.

Tip the security guard and maid at your hotel a couple of bucks.

Talk to the bouncers at the clubs. Make friends with them. Buy them a cold beer or bottle of water once in a while.

These gestures pay dividends.

I was in Sosua for only six days, but the bouncers all knew me. They approached me to shake my hand during the day while I walked around Sosua. The service staff at my hotel ironed my clothes at times without my asking.

If you treat the working people nicely in Sosua, greet them, spend a moment to talk to them, they will treat you nicely.

I'm not talking about approaching a motoconcho driver and asking how he's doing. Or approaching one of those cash changers who sit on the corner trying to get your attention (I know they are up to no good). I'm talking about befriending the regular service staff that you will normally meet over the course of your day while on vacation.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1547573]. But the bachata band guys play on both arrivals and departures. Mostly they collect on departures because people give them the small change pesos they got stuck with in the duty free shop.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdUTTOiFD0[/url][/QUOTE]They're playing Merengue (the national music of the Dominican Republic) , not Bachata.

[QUOTE=Phuquer; 1547792]Remember that those of us who live in Gringoland have much more money than those in Sosua. The average waitress in a restaurant earns the equivalent of $7. 50USD per day for a 12 hour day. 6 days per week. One of my friends told me that the people in DR don't work to live, they work to survive.

You pay the chicas anywhere from $1000DOP to $2500DOP for between a half hour to two hours of work. It is not difficult to give a bartender or waiter or waitress $100DOP for their service.

Tip the security guard and maid at your hotel a couple of bucks.

Talk to the bouncers at the clubs. Make friends with them. Buy them a cold beer or bottle of water once in a while.

These gestures pay dividends.

I was in Sosua for only six days, but the bouncers all knew me. They approached me to shake my hand during the day while I walked around Sosua. The service staff at my hotel ironed my clothes at times without my asking.

If you treat the working people nicely in Sosua, greet them, spend a moment to talk to them, they will treat you nicely.

I'm not talking about approaching a motoconcho driver and asking how he's doing. Or approaching one of those cash changers who sit on the corner trying to get your attention (I know they are up to no good). I'm talking about befriending the regular service staff that you will normally meet over the course of your day while on vacation.[/QUOTE]Well said!

I agree completely that's how to best operate in Sosua, and get the most pleasurable experience out of it.

With that attitude you probably have a good time wherever you go.

[QUOTE=Phuquer; 1547788]Again, the tourist tax collecting agent himself told me I should have said I was born in the DR. I didn't invent the scheme. I just passed it on to my fellow mongers.

I am glad you enjoyed my post, as I enjoyed putting it together. I hope it can help someone who has never been there visualize what they will see and experience when they get to Sosua. It is definitely not all the gloom and doom that some report. If anyone is thinking of going there, stop thinking and just go. It is too easy to have a great time there.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting and very well reasoned riposte. I thought your comments on tourist tax were kind of greenhorn but I see that there is a logical line that may induce some to try it out. Hopefully the faint of heart would not try it, which might be the reason why some are objecting. Personally, many times, I have tried a "carro de ruta" from the Santiago airport to get to where I go, instead of using the cab service. Not using the taxi mafia was one thought but trying out a different experience in the wee morning was another.

I particularly appreciated your thinking on tips. If you are a newbie in the DR, it is even more commendable 'cause evidently you looked at angles that for once, I did not, despite 5-6 trips so far. The fact that someone makes a paltry $7.50 for a 12hour work day makes you pause, even without getting into the potential positive transactional outcome of tipping. Thanks for that. As Oakie commented here, that attitude of empathy alone goes a big way to enable you to enjoy the people and place. I call it the law of good Karma.

In particular, I enjoy your writing style, clean, incisive, matter of fact and what draws my attention, no grammar or spelling errors; Makes reading a serious pleasure. Welcome to the board!

P. S. That Macau trip of yours made me think of my solo trip there. Long back. I do not enjoy casinos but did that once for the experience as well as the horse race in Hong Kong. This was when Macau was still a Portuguese territory.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1547374]Count me in as another who has made multiple trips without any serious hassle.

Sosua is like a mirror, smile and it smiles back at you. If you have a negative attitude it will inevitably throw more shit back at you.

That's the thing about Sosua, we all go down there with different attitudes and expectations.

I read this the other day, and I think it applies.

"Mommy, why do all the idiots come out when Daddy's driving?"[/QUOTE]I never said anything about having any serious hassles. I said squeaky clean pass. When talking to most Vet about the DR for the mongering sport. Most Vets giving newbies words of caution and can give many examples.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1547642]To make it simple, and get back more on topic issues, why don't you guys agree that if you bring your shit, it is at your own risk, and if you get ripped off promise to not complain about it here?[/QUOTE]I am saying this with humor. I can make it simple. Let folks work things out in their own way. We don't need posting police here. Except for the moderator or owner. As long as you see trip reports every now and then, I don't see what the problem is with a little deviation. WARNING! These deviations may cause unnecessary stress and anxiety for some individuals. I recommend that people read these deviations at their own risk. And if they choose to read and have a problem with it, I would hope that they will take responsibility for reading something they arent interested in and not make an issue about it here.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1547264]It really is no state secret. One can follow what Charles Pooter or Frannie wrote only recently and avoid most of the pitfalls and I am not speaking of DR alone (although the Haitian women part would be relevant in the DR from Pooter's perspective, I guess).[/QUOTE]Really? My complete comment was "When people know that you're a new in the area they take advantage of your politeness and lack of knowledge. Street hustlers the police and chicas can pinpoint newbies a mile away. If you're by yourself that makes you a bigger Target for their bullshit. I applaud any newbie that has been on this site for information prior to there trip" That's strange for you. Or. Just like you to make the above statement after saying "I also went around before there was Internet / forums like this and all by myself just the way I still do. Never had any problem that I can think of, anywhere, whether it was a business or a pleasure trip". I said that you were lucky or fortunate. You come back and say "It really is no state secret. One can follow what Charles Pooter or Frannie wrote only recently and avoid most of the pitfalls and I am not speaking of DR alone (although the Haitian women part would be relevant in the DR from Pooter's perspective, I guess). Charles and Frannie spend a lot of their valuable time advising people here on the INTERNET in this FORUM in which you are Here asking question, making comments, and giving advice. Then you go on the praise Phuquer for a job well done. Phuguer who (did a great job) obvious was a newbie to Sosua did homework here on the INTERNET in this FORUM and hooked up with Vets from this FORUM. I said before you don't see your own hypocrisy case close.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1547513]However you have shamed me into modifying my rather smartass and over-casual comments as above [b]in bold[/b].[/QUOTE]Much respect Charles you are my Hero!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1547877]I am saying this with humor. I can make it simple. Let folks work things out in their own way. We don't need posting police here. Except for the moderator or owner. As long as you see trip reports every now and then, I don't see what the problem is with a little deviation. WARNING! These deviations may cause unnecessary stress and anxiety for some individuals. I recommend that people read these deviations at their own risk. And if they choose to read and have a problem with it, I would hope that they will take responsibility for reading something they arent interested in and not make an issue about it here.[/QUOTE]If you are posting on a public forum you should expect comments (or helpful suggestions) on your posts, otherwise you should consider PM.

I agree we don't need posting police here!

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1547547]If you are born in the DR and have a US passport you do not pay for the 10 tourist Visa. I have a family member that was born in the DR has dual citizenship and no DR passport. He does not pay to enter only travels on his US passport.[/QUOTE]You are correct in a case in which a dual citizen does not have DR passport, my statement was based on the assumption that someone traveling out of the country would have obtained passports in both countries. If your family member were to have passports to both countries then he would in fact have to enter on his DR passport.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1547871]I never said anything about having any serious hassles. I said squeaky clean pass. When talking to most Vet about the DR for the mongering sport. Most Vets giving newbies words of caution and can give many examples.[/QUOTE]I don't think I've ever been to a place that had a squeaky clean pass, and that includes my hometown.

Without the info gleaned from this forum, I never would have discovered the monger paradise that is the DR and particularly Sosua, and for that I'll be eternally greatful.

But like all reviews you have to pick and choose advice that fits your own personal style.

I've stayed in some wonderful hotels, but reading the reviews, on say, Expedia, Trip Adviser, Travelocity etc. It's hard to believe they are talking about the same hotel.

Your mileage does indeed vary.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1547912]If you are posting on a public forum you should expect comments (or helpful suggestions) on your posts,[/QUOTE]Thats why I said what I said to you. If you indeed believe and support what you said above Example : (you should expect comments, helpful suggestions on your posts) , then you should expect what I suggested. As far as PMing. I suppose folks will elect to PM, but mainly when they deem it necessary. Which incidently makes me wonder. Why didnt you PM me or the other guy instead of posting that comment here on the board? That would have made sense since that seems to be an option you support? BTW, I freely accept all the other deviations I've observed in this forum, some I even enjoyed.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1547933]Thats why I said what I said to you. If you indeed believe and support what you said above Example : (you should expect comments, helpful suggestions on your posts) , then you should expect what I suggested. As far as PMing. I suppose folks will elect to PM, but mainly when they deem it necessary. Which incidently makes me wonder. Why didnt you PM me or the other guy instead of posting that comment here on the board? That would have made sense since that seems to be an soption you support? BTW, I freely accept all the other deviations I've observed in this forum, some I even enjoyed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comment!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1547914]You are correct in a case in which a dual citizen does not have DR passport, my statement was based on the assumption that someone traveling out of the country would have obtained passports in both countries. If your family member were to have passports to both countries then he would in fact have to enter on his DR passport.[/QUOTE]He has never had a passport before, he is an American citizen due to an American parent. He got his passport a few years ago and recently traveled to the US on his newly minted passport that states it was issued in DR and he was born in Santo Domingo. As for using the passport, if he had both an US and DR passport he could choose to fly on whichever one he wanted. As long as the flight manifest had the same passport he showed entering and exiting the countries. I had an issue recently with US CBP and my passport for some reason or another was not on the manifest and I had to wait while they cleared it up. Clerical error of some sort. In the DR, they really don't check that well and their systems do not have the checks that the US systems have. The strange thing about his passport was when he was leaving DR on an American passport that did not have an entry stamp, that confused the agents a bit.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1547642]To make it simple, and get back more on topic issues, why don't you guys agree that if you bring your shit, it is at your own risk, and if you get ripped off promise to not complain about it here?[/QUOTE]It is just a discusssion about different styles of risk management.

My own life experience is mostly in health care and in that area the general tendency is to reduce risk by restructuring the physical environment rather than trying to change human tendencies such as the desire to find shortcuts for everything.

For example by having the Prilosec 20 mgs capsules stored in a different drawer from the Prilosec 10 mgs capsules and a set up that mechanically prevents both drawers from being open at the same time, and opening the drawer by tapping on the touchscreen showing the correct medications of the named patient one reduces the overall probability of the wrong dose or wrong drug being given to the wrong patient (very simple example). You could contrast this with the much older methodology of having stock bottles of each drug lined up on shelves in the medication cart.

In another industry, perhaps building, one would have an entirely different kind of approach, maybe setting up multiple protective measures, such as putting a razor wire fence around the site, and employing a night watchman or dogs to protect the valuable materials stored there. Or perhaps you would use a "just in time" system to get materials to the site only when they are needed.

People learn from their own life experience and tend to bring those ideas with them to other areas of their existence. Thus people have different ideas about safe mongering, because there is no definitive professional literature or research on the subject.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1547960]He has never had a passport before, he is an American citizen due to an American parent. He got his passport a few years ago and recently traveled to the US on his newly minted passport that states it was issued in DR and he was born in Santo Domingo. As for using the passport, if he had both an US and DR passport he could choose to fly on whichever one he wanted. As long as the flight manifest had the same passport he showed entering and exiting the countries. I had an issue recently with US CBP and my passport for some reason or another was not on the manifest and I had to wait while they cleared it up. Clerical error of some sort. In the DR, they really don't check that well and their systems do not have the checks that the US systems have. The strange thing about his passport was when he was leaving DR on an American passport that did not have an entry stamp, that confused the agents a bit.[/QUOTE]
My daughter is a dual citizen, I am from the U.S. and her mother is Colombian. When I applied for her U.S. passport the agent cautioned me to make certain when bringing her to the U.S. that she had both passports because she would need the U.S. passport to enter the U.S. and the Colombian passport to enter Colombia and would be denied entry otherwise. Here is a link to the U.S. Department of State explaining the rules, fourth paragraph down:

[url]http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1547792]They approached me to shake my hand during the day while I walked around Sosua.[/QUOTE]I'll shake your hand any time for a propina. And I always wash my hands after visiting the bathroom, unlike most Dominicans!

Good report, Phuker.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1548072]I'll shake your hand any time for a propina. And I always wash my hands after visiting the bathroom, unlike most Dominicans!

Good report, Phuker.[/QUOTE]I didn't tip the bouncers. I just greeted them as I walked in the clubs, joked with them, and I think I bought one a bottle of water once. But I'd give you a propina.

All this talk about safety, risk management, scams, and stuff got me thinking.

Yes, I did some research before this trip. There is a ton of valuable information on this and other message boards. A lot of the veterans have posted tons of useful information that is of great service to first timers in the area, such as myself.

Yes I did hook up with some DR veterans, including some members of this board. That is definitely not my usual way of doing things, though. In all my travels around the globe, I have only met a couple of ISG posters. I usually travel alone.

Having said that, I found Sosua to be extremely easy, and the information I gathered was for the most part definitely helpful but not necessary. I try to have a very good attitude, I don't accept help when I am not the one requesting it (there is usually some kind of scam involved). I don't hand out tips to anyone who asks for tips.

I try to learn the language wherever I go. That means learning some Thai when I travel to Thailand, learning a bit of Chinese for my trips to China and Macau, picking up some phrases for my trips to Japan. You don't have to learn a lot, but people appreciate when you try to learn about their language and culture. I am a native Spanish speaker, and I grew up among Dominicans so Sosua was just like going home.

I am in no way rich, but I know I earn more than most in Sosua. Therefore, I do my best not to rub my so called 'wealth' in their faces. I don't dress fancy (although I don't wear tank tops and flip flops either). I don't wear expensive watches, use expensive phones, wear big gold chains, or use my iPad outside of the hotel. I don't pay for a beer with a $2000 peso note.

I am not above getting a haircut among the chicas getting ready for work. I don't mind buying a chica that has been sitting and talking to me for a 1/2 hour a beer. I do let her know from the get go that I am not going to take her. I found that even like that, a lot of girls liked to sit down with me and just chat. I enjoyed that, and they seemed to enjoy talking with me.

I don't stop and talk with guys offering to take me to find chicas when I am standing among a thousand chicas, same as I don't talk to tuk tuk drivers in Thailand who offer to take me to get a massage while we are standing in front of a hundred massage parlors. These guys are hustling. I walked into D'Latins at 8PM one night and the place was empty. The bouncer offered to help me find a seat. I said 'Thanks, I didn't think I would be able to find a seat'. He laughed and said don't be angry at him for trying to hustle. We actually became 'friends', but I could see that he wanted customers for his empty (at the time) club.

When I walk around Sosua, I do exactly as I do when I walk around Washington Heights. Anything that can happen to me in Sosua can happen in Washington Heights so I try to be aware of my surroundings.

I applaud all who post helpful information on this board, and I applaud all who do their homework and seek this information. But if you have the proper attitude, OPEN YOUR EYES, and are careful, you can manage Sosua without much advance information.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1547989]It is just a discusssion about different styles of risk management.

People learn from their own life experience and tend to bring those ideas with them to other areas of their existence. Thus people have different ideas about safe mongering, because there is no definitive professional literature or research on the subject.[/QUOTE]Thing is, risk management is an argument to which there is not one correct answer. That was my only point. We all have different value systems.

For example early on I was asked by friends if Sosua was safe. I had travelled all over the Island (with GF) and felt as safe as if I was home. One guy went on my advice and had nothing but trouble. He came back complaining of a "typhoid outbreak" (overblown report in the local press during the Haiti earthquake). Expats being murdered, etc, and said he'd been totally ripped off by locals. It was the 'worst place in the world" to vacation, he told everybody, and I was looking rather stupid for telling them how good it was.

I'm asked by a friend if it's OK to park on my street when visiting me. In 3 years we've never had a parking ticket, but you guessed it, when they left there it was.

I take my laptop and an "expensive" phone down there with me to stay seamlessly in touch with work, but I also prefer a room on the ground floor, and with those sliding patio doors, I know I'm taking a risk right there, but that gear is supplied by the company, and it would be replaced, so I'm not concerned.

But could I recommend my preference to others? No, of course not. I learned the hard way.

Since, as you can tell, I'm an unabashed fan of the DR, I have considered moving down there semi-permanently. I'm at retirement age, and I could manage it fairly easily.

But, all the expats I have met down there, hotel owners, bar owners, retirees etc, have had a lot of bad experiences, assaults, home robberies, threats and so on. They'll tell you about it if you ask them. Some have gone home. Others have learned to live with it.

I came to the conclusion that, even with good security provided by apartment and condo management, I wouldn't be able to live in a permanent state of alert. A routine walk every day could be an invite.

As for buying a house on the hills outside town, forget it. I've talked to folks who keep a gun, and dogs. You are a mark for anyone who needs money badly, and one day they'll need it badly enough to come to your place.

So, for me, a vacation is one thing, a permanent life down there is just a risk I wouldn't want to take, and that's a shame.

If others have a different take, I'd love to hear from them.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1547559]The valuables that you can't avoid bringing are your passport, driver's license, cash, and a debit or credit card, and managing these items and not losing them is all the stress I want.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. It can be a real hassle just keeping up with these things while doing all the activities that the area has to offer. The time's I have been here the place kept me busy enough I had no need to do any more research on a computer.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1548198]Since, as you can tell, I'm an unabashed fan of the DR, I have considered moving down there semi-permanently. I'm at retirement age, and I could manage it fairly easily.

But, all the expats I have met down there, hotel owners, bar owners, retirees etc, have had a lot of bad experiences, assaults, home robberies, threats and so on. They'll tell you about it if you ask them. Some have gone home. Others have learned to live with it.

I came to the conclusion that, even with good security provided by apartment and condo management, I wouldn't be able to live in a permanent state of alert. A routine walk every day could be an invite.

As for buying a house on the hills outside town, forget it. I've talked to folks who keep a gun, and dogs. You are a mark for anyone who needs money badly, and one day they'll need it badly enough to come to your place.

So, for me, a vacation is one thing, a permanent life down there is just a risk I wouldn't want to take, and that's a shame.

If others have a different take, I'd love to hear from them.[/QUOTE]I live in Santo Domingo. I still have residence in the states, so I am not technically an ex-pat. I'm here 3-4 weeks at a time and leave for a few day to conduct business face to face with clients. Most of the time I work remotely, all I need is internet access a computer and phone. I make a very comfortable living and am in my mid 40's. Very gringo looking, I speak dominican spanish fluently (now).

I started to respond to this thread earlier but it started to sound like a rant and I never posted my response.

I live in a gated community w / 24 hour armed security in the Capitol right off of 27th de Febrero. The community is populated by mostly middle class dominican families. I've been at this location for about 1 1/2 years. Before, I rented in an area that was considered by most to be a barrio. However, the people that I met in that neighborhood have become life long friends, in every sense of the word. I stop by to visit several times a week as do they.

My thought is this, in the touristy locations is where you see the dregs of Dominican Society. This is an area that largely derives its income from vice tourism, with that you get the prostitutes, pimps, touts and every other hustler looking for a peso. The money the tourist will bring in is known, if you are on vacation you will have money to spend on things the people in this area have to offer.

I don't live near a beach, I don't live in a fancy condo. When I do go to the beach it is a local beach, almost no tourists. I don't get the touts, chicas looking to come with me, people selling their wares. Sometimes I need some tourist crap, when friends or family visit, then I venture into those areas.

Now with all that said, the crime I have been personally victim to was getting the batteries to my inversol robbed. I had an iron cage created for them but I did not lock it so I guess that would be my fault for making it so easy. A lesson learned for 16K pesos.

Crime is a part of the DR, but so was growing up in Brooklyn, NY. I used to wake up to gun shots in the middle of the night, my apartment got broken into 3 times, I was a victim of attempted robbery, I had the grill from my car stolen twice.

Here, I've never been robbed, my car has not be broken tampered with.

I'm a little busy now and will continue my report later.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1548240]Crime is a part of the DR, but so was growing up in Brooklyn, NY. I used to wake up to gun shots in the middle of the night, my apartment got broken into 3 times, I was a victim of attempted robbery, I had the grill from my car stolen twice.

Here, I've never been robbed, my car has not be broken tampered with.

I'm a little busy now and will continue my report later.[/QUOTE]Excellent post and definitely on the money. Bad things can happen anywhere you go. You have found a way to minimize your exposure to risk by limiting the number of visits to tourist areas. I am sure you have a strategy to minimize your risks when you do venture into the seedy areas, and I am looking forward to reading your suggestions.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1547956]Thanks for your comment![/QUOTE]You're welcome.

Cage, you have built a regular life so things will be different for you than for the typical monger who says he wants to live in DR. You have an "everyday life" routine. Most guys just want to come and chase women. I'm about to leave my buddy's in Santiago now. He is 60 and retired and moves all around DR. He has lived in Sosua, Cabarere, Boca Chica, Santo Domingo, and East Santo Domingo. He was just complaining about how he is tired of this place. But he has no normal routine. All he does is get on the internet to find girls to come over.

Then, he constantly complains that they have too many kids and are after money. He has one on the way from Navarette right now. A minute ago I had him ride with me to drop my one of my girls off at work. She is a DJ at a radio station. He was so anxious because he didn't want to miss he girl. (He has been waiting on her all day. She was supposed to be here earlier but you know how they are.) I told him to trust me. If she has taken the bus all the way from Navarette then if she beats us back she is still going to be there waiting when we return. When we were riding back he said how he had never been to this part of Santiago. LOL. He is a 5 minute WALK from downtown, yet in 10 weeks he has never been to downtown Santiago. I was like are you fucking kidding me!

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1548085]I do my best not to rub my so called 'wealth' in their faces. I don't dress fancy (although I don't wear tank tops and flip flops either). I don't wear expensive watches, use expensive phones, wear big gold chains, or use my iPad outside of the hotel. I don't pay for a beer with a $2000 peso note.[/QUOTE]Exactly what do you mean by not rubbing your so called wealth in their faces? When you mentioned you don't dress fancy, don't wear expensive watches, don't use expensive phones, don't wear big gold chains, don't use your ipad outside of your hotel, and don't pay for beers with $2000 peso notes. Were those supposed to be examples of how you don't rub wealth "in their faces"? If so, what is your reasoning for deciding you should do that? Is this from preconceived ideas of how you feel enough dominicans think / feel? Or did you have some sort of experience to make you feel the need to make those adjustments? Or was it from advice you received from friends or forums like this? What is it?

Part of why I am asking, is because quite often it appears some people assume and have preconceived ideas of how others may think about them. So they invent ways they think will counter any adverse behavior or treatment. Or simply hoping they will be accepted more.

The part that really stands out for me, is your decision not to use an expensive phone, not to use your IPAD outside of your hotel or not paying for a beer with a $2000 peso. If those were part of the examples of you not rubbing wealth in their faces, that IMO is taking things to an extreme. I can understand you may be kinda new to Sosua and you respect much of the info you learned from forums, but is it really that important/necessary to do that? Exactly what damage or mistreatment do you suspect you'd garner if you didn't take those measures?

If you were to go to most of the restaurants in a tourist area, including at the playa, everywhere you go people are using their phones, ipads, laptops, cameras etc. All the guys I spent time with in the DR in the last 3 yrs use their devices. And I / we werent thinking we were rubbing wealth in anyones face just by using an expensive phone, IPAD or laptop. 1st of all, many dominicans come from all over to be in a touristic area, like Sosua. They expect to see people on vacation with the stuff you may consider so called "wealth". If they don't like it or have a problem with it, then they shouldn't come. But so called wealth is what draws them to come to where you vacation. So why should anybody be concerned about offending anyone? I can see one not wearing an expensive watch / jewelry, or not dressing fancy.

But thats mostly because fancy watches / jewelry, or fancy clothes, is not needed or practical for an extremely casual environment. A phone, IPAD, laptop on the other hand can be very useful for those that use them. As far as paying for a beer with the $2000? I just think it makes sense to use a smaller bill. It doesn't have to be about trying to avoid rubbing wealth in ones face. The truth is, a lot of establishments don't like large bills for small purchases. And not having small currency can even cost you more if not careful. Like taking a moto that costs 25 pesos, but all you got is 100 peso bill. Motos are notorious for saying they have no change.

Even in the states, if you bust out with a $100 dollar bill for an item that cost $2, the proprietor might have a problem with it, or refuse to accept it. In fact, in the states you might find a sign telling you they don't accept certain denomination bills. It could be $50 or $100. In the DR they seem to have the same policy but without signs present. So, producing a $2000 peso for a beer is impractical for an environment that avoids such bills for small purchases, but not necessarily is paying with one (for a small purchase) rubbing wealth in anyones face. If a person still can't help from feeling that way, they can tell the person they are going to give a fat ass tip ($500 or $1, 000 peso) , I'm sure when you rub that wealth into their pockets instead of their faces, aint nobody going to have a problem with that. I'll await your feedback.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1548240]I live in Santo Domingo. I still have residence in the states, so I am not technically an ex-pat. I'm here 3-4 weeks at a time and leave for a few day to conduct business face to face with clients. Most of the time I work remotely, all I need is internet access a computer and phone. I make a very comfortable living and am in my mid 40's. Very gringo looking, I speak dominican spanish fluently (now).

I'm a little busy now and will continue my report later.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that sounds a lot more encouraging.

Looking forward to hearing more!

(And by all means feel free to "rant". LOL)

I see I've stirred up more conversation.

Mr. E, you are correct I have a somewhat normal life. Not normal by US standards but I live quite well down here. Right now I'm in my air conditioned office with my 2 cell phones, one with Skype and a US number the other my local DR number.

I conduct business on a world wide scale, right now dealing with companies in Canada, US, UK. I am a home worker and everyone thinks I'm in NJ.

I have a housekeeper making my lunch. Woke up to a BJ and fuck from my live in novia, who right now is at the university. Tonight I'm going to the Casino, dinner and my 3 some (I hope).

Tomorrow probably the beach, probably palenque, no chicas no touts not many vendors. Sunday to my friends for drinking and dominoes. All very cool and relaxed.

All my friends here are true friends in every sense of the word. They give without expecting anything in return. The most they've asked from me is to bring something from the states that they either can't get here or is too expensive, they always pay me back. I'm included in most family functions, I know their relatives, their kids.

The truth is there are good people, and bad, everywhere.

When I go to DR I always dress down. Even still, my attitude is always to the extreme. Yesterday me and my girl were at the mall getting ice cream. The cashier rung it up and said it would be 150 pesos or whatever. I pulled my crocodile wallet out and tossed it across the counter to her and told her to take out what I owed.

I just took the new Santiago bypass up to Puerto Plata. I just wanted to check it out. I didn't know it was a toll road. I had to pay 100 pesos at the end. They had a sign up that said "No 2000 peso bills." If you are already in Santiago then I don't recommend taking the road because you have to backtrack to get to it. It took me 59 minutes from the beginning of the new road until my arrival at the La Sirena in Puerto Plata. I do drive fast anyway though.

I passed where they are building the cruise ship port. I still can't see people from the ships going to Sosua because it is damn far. Right past the location there is a sign that says 9km to Puerto Plata. I just arrived at my girl's house where she is cooking it up for your boy.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1548294]Cage, you have built a regular life so things will be different for you than for the typical monger who says he wants to live in DR. You have an "everyday life" routine. Most guys just want to come and chase women.[/QUOTE]This might be a factor.

I knew a guy who married a Blackbeards girl and built a house near Charamicos and was plagued by home invasion robberies FIVE times. (Imagine what that does to your property's resale value.)

On the other hand, there are lots of ordinary Dominicans living in the area who are not particularly in fear of crime, other than having wrought iron cages over their windows, of course. The fact that hotels are legally obliged to have armed night watchmen is something of an indicator that the presence of dollars may attract predators. We don't seem to have the same thing at motels in the US.

I have lived more than 2 years in the DR and made about 50 trips and never had much of a problem, but then for the most part I don't hang out in prostitution circles, for example I have never had chats with the owners of various chica bars or the owner of Passions, which some people do on their first visit. It does not surprise me that they have many tales of evil doing, moving in the circles that they do. Talk to night club owners in the UK and I think you will find the same thing.

I guess you feel safe until something happens to you, and then you don't. The worst thing that even happened to me in England was a home invasion by two guy in my apartment in Liverpool, England who held a knife to my throat. It was a case of mistaken identity and they were looking for the guy who lived downstairs who had some teenage runaway staying with him who these guys were trying to pimp. So this might indicate that even innocent students (as I was) who are geographically close to people engaged in prostitution and / or crime may be more at risk of being victims of crime themselves. Could this also apply in Sosua?

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1548306]I see I've stirred up more conversation.

Mr. E, you are correct I have a somewhat normal life. Not normal by US standards but I live quite well down here. Right now I'm in my air conditioned office with my 2 cell phones, one with Skype and a US number the other my local DR number.

I conduct business on a world wide scale, right now dealing with companies in Canada, US, UK. I am a home worker and everyone thinks I'm in NJ.

I have a housekeeper making my lunch. Woke up to a BJ and fuck from my live in novia, who right now is at the university. Tonight I'm going to the Casino, dinner and my 3 some (I hope).

Tomorrow probably the beach, probably palenque, no chicas no touts not many vendors. Sunday to my friends for drinking and dominoes. All very cool and relaxed.

All my friends here are true friends in every sense of the word. They give without expecting anything in return. The most they've asked from me is to bring something from the states that they either can't get here or is too expensive, they always pay me back. I'm included in most family functions, I know their relatives, their kids.

The truth is there are good people, and bad, everywhere.[/QUOTE]That's the truth!

You sound like you are really organized down there.

I've stayed in Abajo and Charamicos with locals and it's free of street hustlers, with the exception of of a local chica who tries to grab me when I go to the store for beer and wants to dance, but it's all in good fun. She wants me to go to the banios with her where she'd give me a free BJ (or so she says).

But I'd feel cramped living in a place like that for more than a few days.

But I may think hard again about making the move. Thanks for the post.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1548342]This might be a factor.

I knew a guy who married a Blackbeards girl and built a house near Charamicos and was plagued by home invasion robberies FIVE times. (Imagine what that does to your property's resale value.)

On the other hand, there are lots of ordinary Dominicans living in the area who are not particularly in fear of crime, other than having wrought iron cages over their windows, of course. The fact that hotels are legally obliged to have armed night watchmen is something of an indicator that the presence of dollars may attract predators. We don't seem to have the same thing at motels in the US.

I have lived more than 2 years in the DR and made about 50 trips and never had much of a problem, but then for the most part I don't hang out in prostitution circles, for example I have never had chats with the owners of various chica bars or the owner of Passions, which some people do on their first visit. It does not surprise me that they have many tales of evil doing, moving in the circles that they do. Talk to night club owners in the UK and I think you will find the same thing.

I guess you feel safe until something happens to you, and then you don't. The worst thing that even happened to me in England was a home invasion by two guy in my apartment in Liverpool, England who held a knife to my throat. It was a case of mistaken identity and they were looking for the guy who lived downstairs who had some teenage runaway staying with him who these guys were trying to pimp. So this might indicate that even innocent students (as I was) who are geographically close to people engaged in prostitution and / or crime may be more at risk of being victims of crime themselves. Could this also apply in Sosua?[/QUOTE]In Charamicos proper, there's not much to steal, so I don't see iron bars on any windows. The old lady who makes my special coffee lives in a house full of kids, and it only has a curtain for a door.

But if you wanted to live in N. A. Style, with all the conveniences we take for granted, then yeah, it would be a problem.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1548334]When I go to DR I always dress down.[/QUOTE]Compared to Florida, Dominicans tend to dress quite well. For example women cannot go into government offices wearing low cut tops or short skirts, nor men wearing shorts. I saw a very comic thing once at the office of the family court judge in Puerto Plata (not a courtroom).

A man had come in to sign custody papers for his child, accompanied by his lawyer. He was wearing below-the-knee jeans type shorts. He was allowed in the reception area, but not allowed to enter the judge's office to swear and sign. So his attorney went out the back door and took off his black suit pants and gave them to the client to wear so he could sign the documents while the attorney hovered at the back door clad in black jacket, white shirt, tie, boxer shorts, socks, and shoes. Fortunately he had decent legs. After the signing was over he got his pants back and gave his client a ride in his car to the parada.

No wonder lawyers are expensive. [QUOTE]I just arrived at my girl's house where she is cooking it up for your boy.[/QUOTE]Note the iron bars on the kitchen windows.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1548350]In Charamicos proper, there's not much to steal, so I don't see iron bars on any windows.[/QUOTE]People often have fridges and TVs in even the humblest dwellings, (plus their iPhone 5's of course, some would say) , but maybe iron bars are not in vogue in Charamicos, though you will see them on the buildings along the highway in Charamicos. My amigo's house was actually at Puerto Chiquito, so outside the town in a subdivision type setting, or a gated community with no gate.

This page has several photos of a mission in Maranatha, near Charamicos, and some of the pictures appear to be typical homes with iron bars.

[url]http://www.thesamaritanfoundationdr.com/projects/villa-maranatha/#[/url]

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1548295]Exactly what do you mean by not rubbing your so called wealth in their faces? When you mentioned you don't dress fancy, don't wear expensive watches, don't use expensive phones, don't wear big gold chains, don't use your ipad outside of your hotel, and don't pay for beers with $2000 peso notes. Were those supposed to be examples of how you don't rub wealth "in their faces"?[/QUOTE]I think you are taking this a bit too literally. What he means is probably that things that seem entirely normal if you are coming from the US might easily attract the attention of predators in the DR, and it seems plausible that some individuals may come to Sosua precisely because there are rich pickings. Paying for a small item with a 2000 peso bill is not significant in itself, but other people in the bar might take note and deduce that there are likely to be other 2000 bills in the person's wallet.

It is fairly rare to run into problems getting change in the US, but it is more common in the DR. In the US these days most people can make relatively small purchases using a debit card in almost any business, especially if it is a corporate chain or franchise, which is nearly everything in a state like Florida. In the DR cash payments are more common.

Out with Mr E tonight, we both agree; talent and numbers were off the fucking hook!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1548378]I think you are taking this a bit too literally. What he means is probably that things that seem entirely normal if you are coming from the US might easily attract the attention of predators in the DR, and it seems plausible that some individuals may come to Sosua precisely because there are rich pickings. Paying for a small item with a 2000 peso bill is not significant in itself, but other people in the bar might take note and deduce that there are likely to be other 2000 bills in the person's wallet.

It is fairly rare to run into problems getting change in the US, but it is more common in the DR. In the US these days most people can make relatively small purchases using a debit card in almost any business, especially if it is a corporate chain or franchise, which is nearly everything in a state like Florida. In the DR cash payments are more common.[/QUOTE]I asked for some specific feedback. Therefore I prefer to get that specific feedback from the individual I was asking it from. I tend to do that, ask for feedback moreso than consistently assuming how people think (thinking in somebody elses head) in their posts. And then end up being wrong and stubbornly refuse to accept being corrected. Moreover, adding insult to injury, ignoring the key issues and start deflecting and making up irrelevant shit that has nothing to do with the original discussion/argument. I've had more than enough of that don't you think? So, let me have a fresh perspective with someone else for a change. I can always address your particulars later.

Y'all won't be happy until this thread goes the way that the Colombia thread went a few years back; meaning Jackson will fully moderate it and all posts will be on delay.

On a brighter note I'm headed back down to Sosua next week.

My last trip was to re-connect and take care of some social obligations.

This time I hope to be free as a bird.

For the first time I'm treating myself to a week at the Terra Linda, so we'll see how that works out.

It'll be the week before Easter, and the flights are good value right now.

The chica who was calling and texting non stop since I got back has now got the message. She wanted to meet me at the airport. It was only a question of time before she complained she had no dinero fro credita. I assume she meant to top up her phone card. No way Jose!

Sure I'll see her down there, because she's good in the sack, and anyway that's what they all do.

Unless anything unusual happens down there I don't intend to bore you with a blow by blow account.

Phuker said it all for me in his last Report.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1548240]I live in Santo Domingo. I still have residence in the states, so I am not technically an ex-pat. I'm here 3-4 weeks at a time and leave for a few day to conduct business face to face with clients. Most of the time I work remotely, all I need is internet access a computer and phone. I make a very comfortable living and am in my mid 40's. Very gringo looking, I speak dominican spanish fluently (now).[/QUOTE]Are you considering doing SDQ full-time and giving up your place in the states?

I am neither rich nor poor. But I live in a city where few people need to sell their bodies in order to make money to eat and take care of their families. The fact that the number of chicas is up tells me that it is very difficult to make a living in the DR. The things we take for granted (iPhones, iPads, fancy watches, and expensive clothes) are much more difficult for the average Dominican to get.

The waitress at the place I have breakfast at in Sosua sat down with me when she saw my iphone 5s and we started calculating. She said she would have to work 4 months without buying so much as a piece if chewing gum it be able to buy the 5s.

Years back, I was married to a Dominican and every time we visited her family in Santiago her brother would beg and plead endlessly for me to leave him my sneakers, my jeans, my watch, my underwear, everything. My wife (at the time) asked me to leave as much as I could to him because it was easy for me to get the stuff back home, but it was difficult to impossible for him to get them in the DR. So I always returned home with an empty suitcase.

These two people are people I trust won't steal from me. I grew up among Dominicans and I know they are really hard working, friendly, and trustworthy. I also know that there are some that can be lying, manipulating, crafty, and creative thieves. But you can run into these kind of people anywhere in the world.

Whenever I am in a place with a high rate of poverty and crime (usually where pussy is for sale at reasonable prices) , I try to keep a low profile. I don't rub my wealth in anybody's face. I let the guys with the iPads and iPhones and Rolex watches become the targets.

I have travelled the world and have never been robbed. The girls don't care if I wear a tuxedo or shorts. They don't care if I have an iphone or two cans and some string. They don't care when I don't spring for the motoconcho and make them walk three blocks in high heels through potholes, mud, or donkey shit. They don't care if I take them to the Hilton, or if I fuck them in an alley. All they care about is getting paid. All I care about is fucking girls.

My advice is sound and it works well for me. I don't suffer, I dress casual, and I don't feel any inconvenience when I travel. I advise people who are new to ANY area to leave the luxury gadgets (yes an iphone is a luxury gadget as 10 years ago there were no iPads or iPhones yet business still took place) at home or locked in the hotel safe until they are comfortable with the area and can take a few more liberties. Any other advise would be reckless.

Every week in the paper in Thailand you read about a Russian who had his or her gold chain snatched. Sometimes you even read about a Thai chick getting hers snatched. I have never had one snatched because I am not fool enough to wear one in places that I know attract the dregs of society.

Some years back an Italian guy was in Rio to attend his son's wedding to a Brasileira. The guy and one of his other sons were walking in Ipanema which is one of the better neighborhoods of Rio and frequented by tourists. The father had on a nice gold chain. At the time there was a robbing crew called the Bicycle Gang. A youngster rode by on a bicycle and snatched the father's chain and rode across the street. The son gave chase. As soon as he stepped into the street he was hit by a bus and died. I'm sure the father never thought that attending one son's wedding would mean another son's funeral. If you do decide to carry whatever item and you get got, just chalk it up as a loss.
[Url]http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/cotidian/ff2011200708.htm[/url]

Last night I noticed more chicks than before are wearing braces on their teeth. Many of them only had them on the top row and many were missing the long piece of metal that goes across. I asked one what happened to hers and she said she was eating chicken and they broke. Surely the girls are not the ones paying for braces or they would take better care of them. Either that or they make some cheap (quality-wise) ass braces in DR.

For the people who are living in DR, how are you affected by the brown outs? Does it happen in the neighborhoods where you guys are living? Everytime I am at a chica's house the lights go off during the day time. Sometimes the water is off as well. This bit of infrastructure is something to consider for those thinking of moving here.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1548632]For the people who are living in DR, how are you affected by the brown outs? Does it happen in the neighborhoods where you guys are living? Everytime I am at a chica's house the lights go off during the day time. Sometimes the water is off as well. This bit of infrastructure is something to consider for those thinking of moving here.[/QUOTE]This is why I'm interested in hearing from Cagep1967, who apparently works online from the DR?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1548628]Last night I noticed more chicks than before are wearing braces on their teeth. Many of them only had them on the top row and many were missing the long piece of metal that goes across. I asked one what happened to hers and she said she was eating chicken and they broke. Surely the girls are not the ones paying for braces or they would take better care of them. Either that or they make some cheap (quality-wise) ass braces in DR.[/QUOTE]I know you know this already, but for newbie info braces are a fashion statement in Latin America. It used to be kinda of a turn on when I first started visiting Latin America, but now they are fucking annoying. Chicas who don't even need them are starting to wear them "just because".

I pulled in last night at 7 and went to Rocky's to get some ribs. They have either gone to shit or it was an off day. They were not as good as they usually are. I left there and went up in front of El Flow, which was empty. I gave Tomjackin a call and he just happened to be right across the street at Rumba. I went over and he had the best seat in the house. Right at the door.

I pulled up a chair next to him blocking the passageway to the front, left side of the joint. He was drinking his usual vodka and oj and I was on the rum and coke. I had never seen that many girls in Sosua in the seven years that I have been going. I think three drinks later is when we left and went next door to D'Latin. It was about 10:30.

I was feeling randy and I monger for the adventure, not for the pussy. Since I didn't have a place to stay (I never book anymore, I just go with the flow) I came up with the idea that whatever chick I chose I would have to stay at her place for toda la noche. I called one chick over and asked her how much for all night. She said 100. As in dollars? I was laughing my ass off out loud. She went back over to her friends. A friend of Tomjackin's girl (to me he had the best girl in D'Latin) came over and sat a while. She told me we could go to her place and it would be $50. That sounded like a damn deal to me. Before I left I made sure to ask for how long. She said 1 or 2 hours. BULL-SHIT. I let her go about her way.

The next girl turned out to be the winner. She was over near the door with her aunt when I called her over. She said 2000 pesos for all night. I said that is a deal, and we will stay at your place because I don't have one. She agreed. I don't remember how many drinks we were into at D'Latins (must have been 3 or 4) , but both me and Tomjackin were ready to call it a night. It was 1130pm.

Me and my girl walked to the car. I had parked in front of New Garden. She pointed the way. It was a back alley hotel in Charamicos. She was from San Francisco and said her and her aunt come to Sosua to make money on the weekends. She said she had one two year old kid. I made a joke that we would make a brother or sister for the kid tonight. She said that would not be possible because she was already pregnant. WTF? She lifted up her shirt and her pouch was kind of hard to the touch. I asked about the baby's father. She said her husband just died yesterday. She was in pretty good spirits for that to be the case.

She was texting back and forth with her aunt. I asked what they were talking about. She said that her aunt said I needed to give her extra money to pay for the room. The price they paid was for 2 people and the place would charge additional for another person. (And she said to remember that if her aunt didn't find a customer there would be 3 of us in the queen-sized bed for the night.) I'm like how are they going to know? I didn't see an office or anything. We just went through some pissy alley and there we were at the room. She said they saw when we came in. I'm like who saw? Anyway she said I would need to give her 500 extra. I agreed. She said so 2500 for me and 500 for the room. I said BULL-SHIT. I will just get my shit and leave then. She said well what about my time that I already spent with you? I said fuck your time. It was my time too. She said okay 2000 would be fine.

We did the do then went to take a shower; or rather pour water from a bowl on our bodies, rub with soap, then pour more water. There was a big ass roach on the shower curtain staring at me during my turn. I dried off and got into the bed. I acted like my eyes were closed but I was watching her text someone whose name was ____ esposo _____. I assumed it was her husband. We finally fell asleep.

I was having all kinds of crazy ass dreams. The aunt arrived and woke me up with all kinds of noise. I feel back asleep while she was getting ready for bed. I woke up again before she got into the bed. She looked straight out of the movie Dead Presidents ready to rob the money truck. I tried to get back to sleep with that image in my head. I was sleeping ***** style, or is it called pimp style when you are in the middle and women are on both sides? I would fall asleep with my arms around my girl, wake up, turn over, and put my arms around the aunt and under her shirt– with a hard dick poking her in the ass I might add. Fall back asleep and wake up and turn and do the same with the other girl. Finally I had to rub on some tits and pussy. The aunt's body felt so damn good I couldn't resist.

At 730am I had had enough of that small ass bed and decided to wake up and get ready. I went to brush my teeth. WTF? This raggedy MF don't even have a sink? I put my clothes on and gave old girl 2500 pesos. She said I was supposed to give her 3000. I said BULL-SHIT. The aunt asked where was her cut. I started to tell her that she could earn her cut in 30 minutes or less, but I was ready to get out of there.

I left and went to Rocky's and had breakfast. Finally I got to brush my teeth. I hit my girl in Puerto Plata up and told her that I was still in Cabarete. She told me to meet her at La Sirena in an hour. When I got to La Sirena I parked on the street and went in to buy water. I have another chick who works at the meat department there. Right when I was going up to my meat department girl, my main chick called my phone. I answered and told her that I was inside buying water. She said that she was inside too. Shit. What if she is looking dead at me talking to my other girl? I rushed the conversation with the meat department girl and told her to call me when she got off tonight and we could get together. I went and paid for my water and went to the bathroom. When I came out I saw my girl and her daughter in line. I told her that I would wait outside for them.

Now I am back at her house and she wants to go to the beach in Sosua or Cabarete now. Sosua here I come again!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1548655]I know you know this already, but for newbie info braces are a fashion statement in Latin America. It used to be kinda of a turn on when I first started visiting Latin America, but now they are fucking annoying. Chicas who don't even need them are starting to wear them "just because".[/QUOTE]I for one am glad. I have a braces fetish. I don't care if a girl is ass ugly; if she has braces I will take her.

For some reason the edit reports won't let me edit my report to add the pictures.

You gave a classic example of the DR mongering bullshit when playing the game. You handle things like the Vet you are. I was just wondering how did the Aunt looked. After playing with her pussy, tits, and getting your dick hard- why didn't you knock her ass off? The chica that gave you the $100 price- was her set on her price or you were just to busy laughing to play the game.

I like your style Mr. E. You definitely know how to have an adventure.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1548666]For some reason the edit reports won't let me edit my report to add the pictures.[/QUOTE]I dumped my girl last night. I saw the aunt and niece with dates at the beach today; I want the niece in a bad / good way!

Man you never surprise me with the crazy shit you do LOL. Running around in the back alleys of Charmicos late at night with a chic you just met, are you crazy? I don't even go there late at night, Charmicos is not for gringos after sunset bro. Having to sleep with one eye open? I'm glad you're safe and can laugh about it now.

I left Sosua this morning and made it to the end of Autopista John Paul II in 2 hours and 40 minutes. I was supposed to meet up with a chick before my flight but she didn't answer my text. Came to Boca Chica to enjoy the other type of red snapper instead.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1548934]Man you never surprise me with the crazy shit you do LOL. Running around in the back alleys of Charmicos late at night with a chic you just met, are you crazy? I don't even go there late at night, Charmicos is not for gringos after sunset bro. Having to sleep with one eye open? I'm glad you're safe and can laugh about it now.[/QUOTE]I cannot be there uncomfortable defeats the whole purpose. I am not Hating, do your thing though.

Mr. Enternational, do you know the name of the blond in your last photo? I took her but can't remember her name. She is really friendly and fun to be with.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1548655]I know you know this already, but for newbie info braces are a fashion statement in Latin America. It used to be kinda of a turn on when I first started visiting Latin America, but now they are fucking annoying. Chicas who don't even need them are starting to wear them "just because".[/QUOTE]I found this out on my last trip when one of my girls who was wearing the phony braces explained it was a luxury "lujo" that nobody could afford and the latest in style. My only concern was getting a cut on my dick when she was giving me head!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1549106]I found this out on my last trip when one of my girls who was wearing the phony braces explained it was a luxury "lujo" that nobody could afford and the latest in style. My only concern was getting a cut on my dick when she was giving me head![/QUOTE]Yeah I asked a chick last night why she had braces and she said because she liked them. So SavePros was on the money.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549096]Mr. Enternational, do you know the name of the blond in your last photo? I took her but can't remember her name. She is really friendly and fun to be with.[/QUOTE]I don't do names. But you are in luck. The only reason I know that chick's name is because she is one of Tomjackin's regulars and he kept saying Lil' D.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549096]Mr. Enternational, do you know the name of the blond in your last photo? I took her but can't remember her name. She is really friendly and fun to be with.[/QUOTE]Her name is Katie, Little Dancer is my name for her; great girl.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1549127]Her name is Katie, Little Dancer is my name for her; great girl.[/QUOTE]I like her attitude. She's always smiling, laughing, and in a good mood. I'm also terrible with names.

I pulled up at Sosua beach and my girl protested. She wanted to go to Cabarete instead. I said this beach is good so we will go here. We walked down to Big D's and I had the rib / chicken combo and we both had pina coladas in the pineapple, hers without alcohol. There were some guys planning a big party the next day and were getting Big D to cater it. My girl said she was not going to get in the water at Sosua beach because she does not like it. When I finished eating I decided to take her to Cabarete.

As we walked back down the beach on the way to the car, we passed another aunt / niece combo that I met the night before. (Their pictures are included in the ones I already posted.) I was seriously thinking about taking the aunt that night, but some guy came into Rumba who she said was her good friend and she was going over to talk to him for a while. They had on the same clothes as the night before. I put my arm around my girl and tried to avoid eye contact with them, hoping they didn't speak to me as we passed each other.

We arrived in Cabarete and I parked the car across from ScotiaBank. We walked down the beach and she started saying how she didn't like it. I said I told you that Sosua beach was better but you refused to listen. We sat on some beach chairs and a guy came and collected 100 pesos each for using them. He asked if we wanted any food or drinks but we declined. My girl said that she didn't want to get into the water. I told her that if she didn't go put on her beach clothes immediately then we would have a problem. I drove all the way to Cabarete because she complained about Sosua and now doesn't want to put her beach clothes on in Cabarete either. She reluctantly went to change.

The kite boarding looked very interesting so I stopped at the shop to inquire about learning. The lady told me that lesson were $50 / hour and it takes most 6 hours to learn at a rate of 2 hours / day. I'm definitely considering signing up next time.

On our way out to Cabarete we saw the signs for Dulce Secreto cabana. We decided to stop there on our way back through Sosua. We took the 600 peso room. I'm not sure how much time you have for that amount. At most cabanas that I have been to the normal time is 4 hours. To me, Dulce Secreto is one of the best cabanas that I have been in, better than many DR hotels even. It was clean and modern and I didn't even have to wait for the hot water to warm up. It was definitely the best shower that I had in Santo Domingo, Santiago, and Sosua during my six day trip. I will post the pictures in the Sosua Hotel thread.

When I got to my girl's house in Puerto Plata I gave Tomjackin a call. He said that he and RonnyRon were sitting in the hotel restaurant. I told him that I would be there in 30 minutes. He said hurry the fuck up then. When I got there we chatted for a while then walked up to Rumba. I was having fun fucking with chicks any way that I could as usual. I met some chick who was from Santo Domingo and said she was going back tomorrow. I told her that I would be driving to Santo Domingo in the morning at 6 and that she could ride with me if she wanted. She told her wingwoman, but the wingwoman made a face like she didn't want to leave that early. Shit, it was a free ride and they could have slept on the way since I would be doing all the driving. We exchanged information but when I called her this morning she did not answer, so I left without her.

After a few drinks at Rumba we went next door to D'Latin. After one drink I was ready to head off with a chick. Of course the price was right; 1500 pesos until 6am. I drove past Ollie's to get a sandwich but it was not opened, so I stopped by the place next to Four Roses and got three pieces of chicken for 100 pesos. The girl I took lives in Cabarete, and since I didn't have a hotel I decided to hit up Dulce Secreto again. WTF? It was full. We didn't know where to go. We ended up asking a motoconcho driver across from Texaco if he knew of any place.

I followed him to Casa Angela. The guy there said the room would be $40. I told him I would only be there four hours. He said it didn't matter. I slipped the moto guy 50 pesos, but he still stuck around leading me to believe he was waiting for a commission. The room was nice (with the second best shower of the trip) and there was a pool on the premises. I may stay there next time I am in Sosua. We took showers and got our freak on. After it was over the girl said she had to get home to her daughter. What the fuck? You told me that you would stay until 6. So how much am I supposed to give you now since you are not staying to entire time? She said it was up to me. I told her that I would give her 1000. That was fine with her. She came out of the bathroom all dolled up. I told her that it looked like she was going back out to the strip. She promised that she was not. I grabbed my pants and told her that I was going back out there then. (I really wasn't going. I was just testing her.) She asked for 100 pesos to take a motoconcho. I gave it to her since I knew they would not have change for the 1000 that I had just given her. After that I got a quick three hours of sleep and at 6:45am headed off to Santo Domingo.

When I got to the airport I received a what's app message saying, 'Feliz viaje precioso. ' I asked who is this? She responded, 'The one who was with you last night, Juli. The one that you only gave 1000 pesos crazy. ' I said, 'That is very good for only one hour isn't it? ' She said, 'Yes thank you amor. Especially since I really needed it. You can't imagine how God will bless you. ' I told her, 'And I needed you until 6am, but you wanted to look for somebody else. ' She said, 'I'm so sorry. I swear that was not the case. I have never spent the entire night outside of the house. ' Until next time Sosua.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1549139]After a few drinks at Rumba we went next door to D'Latin. After one drink I was ready to head off with a chick. Of course the price was right; 1500 pesos until 6am.

We took showers and got our freak on. After it was over the girl said she had to get home to her daughter. What the fuck? You told me that you would stay until 6. So how much am I supposed to give you now since you are not staying to entire time? She said it was up to me. I told her that I would give her 1000. That was fine with her. She came out of the bathroom all dolled up. I told her that it looked like she was going back out to the strip. She promised that she was not. I grabbed my pants and told her that I was going back out there then. (I really wasn't going. I was just testing her.) She asked for 100 pesos to take a motoconcho. I gave it to her since I knew they would not have change for the 1000 that I had just given her. After that I got a quick three hours of sleep and at 6:45am headed off to Santo Domingo.

When I got to the airport I received a what's app message saying, 'Feliz viaje precioso. ' I asked who is this? She responded, 'The one who was with you last night, Juli. The one that you only gave 1000 pesos crazy. ' I said, 'That is very good for only one hour isn't it? ' She said, 'Yes thank you amor. Especially since I really needed it. You can't imagine how God will bless you. ' I told her, 'And I needed you until 6am, but you wanted to look for somebody else. ' She said, 'I'm so sorry. I swear that was not the case. I have never spent the entire night outside of the house. ' Until next time Sosua.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well we all make newbie mistakes. Was it you or her who suggested 6:00 a.m? I will wager it was you and she just went along with it thinking to get the money shot first then renegotiate.

Or did it go like this?

You: "How about a fuck, babe. 1500 pesesitos is all I have left?"

She: "Sure thing, dude, but only if I can stay at least until 6."

Maybe she wanted to go back to the strip to find someone who paid better, or maybe she had to relieve a childminder by 6. Or get a child ready for school at 7. Who knows?

And how the hell did she get your cell number? You just picked her up in a bar.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1549138]I.

We arrived in Cabarete and I parked the car across from ScotiaBank. We walked down the beach and she started saying how she didn't like it. I said I told you that Sosua beach was better but you refused to listen. We sat on some beach chairs and a guy came and collected 100 pesos each for using them. He asked if we wanted any food or drinks but we declined. My girl said that she didn't want to get into the water. I told her that if she didn't go put on her beach clothes immediately then we would have a problem. I drove all the way to Cabarete because she complained about Sosua and now doesn't want to put her beach clothes on in Cabarete either. She reluctantly went to change.[/QUOTE]What didn't your girl like about Cabarete beach? I think the beach is beautiful! Clean sand and very few people hassling you! You can watch the people surf and kite surf. What was her complaint?

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1549269]Yeah, well we all make newbie mistakes. Was it you or her who suggested 6:00 a. M? I will wager it was you and she just went along with it thinking to get the money shot first then renegotiate.

Or did it go like this?

You: "How about a fuck, babe. 1500 pesesitos is all I have left?"

She: "Sure thing, dude, but only if I can stay at least until 6."

Maybe she wanted to go back to the strip to find someone who paid better, or maybe she had to relieve a childminder by 6. Or get a child ready for school at 7. Who knows?

And how the hell did she get your cell number? You just picked her up in a bar.[/QUOTE]Man what the hell are you talking about? You are just talking out of your ass. I said in the report exactly what happened. 6am was the time I had to leave to drive to Santo Domingo to get my flight at noon, so of course that would be the time that I would want whatever girl until. When the girl said she had to go I gave her 1000 instead of the 1500 that we had initially agreed to. We traded what's app info because she is from Santiago and I am there more often than Sosua. You would think if she had a problem with me then she would not have contacted me of her own free will 8 hours after the fact and THANKED ME for the 1000, especially when she knew that I had already left Sosua. She never asked for more or even gave an initial figure. She left that all up to me. Even when she said she had to go and I asked how much she thought I needed to give her since she could not stay the entire time she did not give a figure. She said whatever I wanted to give her. The only thing extra she asked for was 100 for a motorbike taxi because I had given her a large bill so late at night. So where is the newbie mistake?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1549269]Yeah, well we all make newbie mistakes.[/QUOTE]Mr. E, did you know that you were a newbie? Hahaha. Frannie, he would run circles around you in the mongering arena.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1549336]What didn't your girl like about Cabarete beach? I think the beach is beautiful! Clean sand and very few people hassling you! You can watch the people surf and kite surf. What was her complaint?[/QUOTE]I don't know. You know how women are. She said she didn't like Sosua beach because of an incident that happened getting hurt on the rocks in the water when she was younger. Personally I like the water and sand at Sosua beach better. She said that next time she would take me to a beach somewhere near Imbert that is very beautiful. It must be a lake or something since Imbert is more inland. She said it has white sand, clear shallow water for a distance out, and you could see the fish swimming around your legs.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1549367]Man what the hell are you talking about? You are just talking out of your ass. I said in the report exactly what happened. 6am was the time I had to leave to drive to Santo Domingo to get my flight at noon, so of course that would be the time that I would want whatever girl until. When the girl said she had to go I gave her 1000 instead of the 1500 that we had initially agreed to. We traded what's app info because she is from Santiago and I am there more often than Sosua. You would think if she had a problem with me then she would not have contacted me of her own free will 8 hours after the fact and THANKED ME for the 1000, especially when she knew that I had already left Sosua. She never asked for more or even gave an initial figure. She left that all up to me. Even when she said she had to go and I asked how much she thought I needed to give her since she could not stay the entire time she did not give a figure. She said whatever I wanted to give her. The only thing extra she asked for was 100 for a motorbike taxi because I had given her a large bill so late at night. So where is the newbie mistake?[/QUOTE]Sorry, it sounded to me like the tone of her messages was intended to be ironic, given that you can hardly get anything for 1000 pesos in the DR-that is about 23 dollars. Is she really that grateful? Maybe I am wrong and she was sincere, in which case she is incredibly dumb too.

The newbie mistake is to engage a chica for all night if you don't know whether she is really into you. The commonest newbie complaint on these boards is that a chica was engaged for all night and then wants to split early. Possibly this could be avoided by asking her if should would prefer a 1000 peso quickie or a 1500 peso all nighter. Bottom line is that most of the chicas who live locally have children, so have sitters who have to be relieved. Is her daughter in Cabarete or Santiago?

[quote=phuquer;1548606]the things we take for granted (iphones, ipads, fancy watches, and expensive clothes) are much more difficult for the average dominican to get.[/quote]it may be true that those are difficult to get for some. but that is not "our" problem if it is. further, those things are not necessities to begin with. definitely not needed for a dominican to survive. so why should anyone else be concerned over the difficulty of dominicans unable to get those things?

[quote]the waitress at the place i have breakfast at in sosua sat down with me when she saw my iphone 5s and we started calculating. she said she would have to work 4 months without buying so much as a piece if chewing gum it be able to buy the 5s.[/quote]for the most part any local that feels the need to tell me their tale of woe in not being able to afford an iphone 5s, i wouldn't go too far entertaining that conversation. frankly it's not my concern if some local can't buy an iphone 5s. an iphone is not necessary for survival.

[quote]years back, i was married to a dominican and every time we visited her family in santiago her brother would beg and plead endlessly for me to leave him my sneakers, my jeans, my watch, my underwear, everything. my wife (at the time) asked me to leave as much as i could to him because it was easy for me to get the stuff back home, but it was difficult to impossible for him to get them in the dr. so i always returned home with an empty suitcase.[/quote]i dated a dominican from the us whose home town was in haina, never did any of her family or friends beg or ask anything from me or her when i visited. nor did any of them behave like or indicate that we were rubbing wealth in their faces just because we had nice things. if were talking basics here, sneakers, jeans, and underwear, those things are not impossible to get. now if you are talking about him being enamored with name brand or hard to get stuff, then i can see your point to a certain extent.

but then name brand or specialty clothing or watches arent necessities. i don't know how old the brother was, but if he was old enough he should have been encouraged to go out and find work, instead of begging. that is one of the things that is assbackwards with enough families now. people accepting complacency, laziness, encouraging and condoning begging. personally i wouldn't want no woman putting me on the spot like that with a begging relative, and me having to give up my own stuff that i brought for vacation. if my woman wants to do something for her brother, then we can talk about it. next time she can plan to bring a care package for him. if she wants to leave her own stuff behind thats on her. but i aint allowing no woman to put me on the spot just because her family is begging. he aint going to die if he don't get my stuff before i leave. he'll live. btw you must not have been too accepting of giving up your stuff, since he had to beg and plead endlessly for it? if you had no problem with it, all he would have had to do is ask, and you would willingly part with your stuff without him having to beg endlessly.

[quote]whenever i am in a place with a high rate of poverty and crime (usually where pussy is for sale at reasonable prices) , i try to keep a low profile. i don't rub my wealth in anybody's face. i let the guys with the ipads and iphones and rolex watches become the targets.[/quote]dominicans arent stupid. they know we arent from there. they know we paid hundreds of dollars for airfare, for our hotels and were spending hundreds of dollars on pussy and in places many dominicans don't go regularly to buy food and drink. they know you probably have a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars locked up in your safe in your spot. how exactly is anybody keeping a low profile with all of that going on? simply by not using an expensive phone, ipad, not wearing expensive jewelry etc. how are you letting somebody else become targets but you arent one yourself?

if anyone were to get with the wrong company, they will find out real quick. thieves may make you go in your safe ,take your iphone5s and your money. just ask the dude who was robbed at tradewinds a couple of months ago. and if you encounter individuals as poor as your ex brother in law, they will probably take your clothes too. they don't have to know what you got hidden in or out in the open. they readily assume because you arent from there that you have something valuable that they find valuable. one may think they are keeping a low profile. but like i said, dominicans aint stupid. the only reason a person may go unrep001hed while on vacation, isn't because he is keeping a low profile, or because dominicans are respecting him because he aint rubbing his wealth in somebodys face, it's because somebody with criminal intent just has not taken the initiative to go after you. one can get set up very easily if a thief is inclined, and the crime doesnt have to happen in a common place. it can happen anywhere.

[quote]my advice is sound and it works well for me. i don't suffer, i dress casual, and i don't feel any inconvenience when i travel. i advise people who are new to any area to leave the luxury gadgets (yes an iphone is a luxury gadget as 10 years ago there were no ipads or iphones yet business still took place) at home or locked in the hotel safe until they are comfortable with the area and can take a few more liberties. any other advise would be reckless.[/quote]i don't think there is anything wrong with that advice. my take isn't necessarily an advisement regarding if one should or shouldn't bring their gadgets. it was more of a testimony and an observation of what goes on every day in sosua and in the dr with individuals all over using their equipment in restaurants, on the beach, and anywhere they feel comfortable. and in doing so, it doesn't appear any of these folks are assuming they are rubbing wealth in anyones face. that seems to be entirely your own perspective/sensitivity on the issue. you are correct how you operate has worked for you. and at the same time, it apparently has worked for most people who are uninhibited with those concerns, and enjoy the use of their stuff without any problems with their safety or concern that they are rubbing wealth in anyones face.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1549428]Sorry, it sounded to me like the tone of her messages was intended to be ironic, given that you can hardly get anything for 1000 pesos in the DR-that is about 23 dollars. Is she really that grateful? Maybe I am wrong and she was sincere, in which case she is incredibly dumb too.

The newbie mistake is to engage a chica for all night if you don't know whether she is really into you. The commonest newbie complaint on these boards is that a chica was engaged for all night and then wants to split early. Possibly this could be avoided by asking her if should would prefer a 1000 peso quickie or a 1500 peso all nighter. Bottom line is that most of the chicas who live locally have children, so have sitters who have to be relieved. Is her daughter in Cabarete or Santiago?[/QUOTE]She just hit me up again in whats app. So she must be interested in more than money, because as she has found out I don't come off of that very easily. In many threads you see guys saying to always take a girl for short time before you make a long time deal. My M. O. Is totally different.

Generally with hookers I only do long time, unless I'm in a brothel type situation. That being said, the most I have ever given a DR hooker was 2000 and the only time for that was a couple of nights ago. Last year or the year before I gave some chick 1800 for long time. Recently, I have been offering 1500 long time, and that is only due to "pressure" from you guys. Before that I was only paying 1000 long time. It doesn't make sense for me to do a short time before a long time with the same girl because I very seldom repeat with a hooker. If I wanted to repeat then I would do that with a regular girl I did not have to pay. I'm in P4P for the adventure and the variety. For familiarity I prefer non-pros.

Everyone does Sosua (or any other place) differently. I stated how I do things, how I see things, and what some of my experiences were. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Sosua probably as much as you enjoy your time there. My post is meant for first timers to have an idea what to expect, and my advice to them on how I think they should protect themselves and why. It is not the only way to do things, but it is my way of doing things. This will be my last comment on this topic.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549449]Everyone does Sosua (or any other place) differently. I stated how I do things, how I see things, and what some of my experiences were. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Sosua probably as much as you enjoy your time there. My post is meant for first timers to have an idea what to expect, and my advice to them on how I think they should protect themselves and why. It is not the only way to do things, but it is my way of doing things. This will be my last comment on this topic.[/QUOTE]I know that was your last comment, but I don't require a response from you on this. You said your post was meant for first timers. How they should protect themselves and why. Thats the part that escapes me. You indeed did tell us how you operate, and you mentioned that people should protect themselves. But what I didn't see is your explanation or perspective of why mongers, especially 1st timers should lock up or not bring their gadgets out? Especially since it's understood that crime is everywhere. What does a 1st timer lack that makes him more vulnerable than anybody else just because he is using a phone or laptop in a restaurant or at the beach? Thats the only reason I took the time to ask you those specific questions regarding wealth in ones face, to get feedback.

If you are going to suggest why, then it makes sense that folks know why, and not assume what you mean. I preferred to ask for feedback rather than speculate and possibly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off assuming too much. I guess the direct approach to obtaining feedback and exchanging perspectives is not your interest.

Just imagine how a newbie might feel, if he asks you for more feedback on why you feel a certain way, and you can't or won't tell him, but you tell him about your experiences. That is not exactly an answer to what the newbie asked. The thing about forums, is they are a golden opportunity for folks to engage in understanding multiple perspectives. Not merely stating how one does things, but to understand that perspective in it's entirety. Not just say well this is how I do things, and then clam up. In your learning process, you just might want to know how others got to the point of being comfortable with using their gadgets without feeling like you. Moreover, not every newbie will be uncomfortable with using their gadgets in public just because they are new. And BTW the comment about letting those that use their expensive phones, ipads and rolexs become targets doesn't sound like a helpful comment for newbies. Looks more like sarcasm towards fellow mongers just because they may operate unlike yourself. I'm just saying. My questions were rhetorical. A response is not necessary.

WRX2005, I will eat my words and respond because I feel your post makes some valid points and deserves a response.

My advice and perspective is based on my experiences, things I have seen, and common sense that I have acquired over the years. I don't know what other perspective I can give you or anyone else besides what I have seen and experienced.

I try to share what I have seen and learned over the years to benefit others who are beginning their travels. I don't want them to go through some of the things I have seen other guys go through over the years, and in many places.

Growing up in a bad (and poor) neighborhood, I would observe what I considered to be regular working people stepping out of the subway and immediately get relieved of their watches, handbags, and purses. It was usually the ones that looked like easy targets (women, older people, disabled) , and usually never young fit men who looked like they could defend themselves or make it difficult for the thieves. The people I saw getting robbed usually had expensive watches in plain view, or expensive looking handbags, and they were never aware of their surroundings. I saw people just walk up behind them, snatch the purse or watch, and run in the other direction. By the time the person realized they had gotten robbed and looked back, the thief was half way down the block.

On the subways in New York City they constantly announce that you should be aware of pickpockets, and should not display cell phones or other electronic devices while on the train.

In many areas around the world, I would not hesitate to use my iPhone, iPad, or other device. It is true that I could get robbed anywhere, including right in front of my house. But the chances are even greater if you advertise the things you have.

It is true what you say. I have been fortunate and have not come across a person that was desperate enough to rob me, and it might happen one day. But when I travel to places such as Sosua, parts of Bangkok, Pattaya, places in Mexico, or heck, even places right in New York, I try not to be the easy target. Others can do that if they so wish. If that is being sarcastic, then I am sarcastic. If I display an iPhone, they know I have an iPhone to steal. If I wear an expensive watch, they know there is an expensive watch to steal. If I don't display anything, then there is a chance that they have to force me to open my hotel safe. When I open it, there is a chance that there is a passport, a credit card, and nothing more. Then they have to squeeze to try to extract more from me. The chances of getting caught are greater the longer they stay with me. If they can just snatch my phone or gold chain and disappear, it is much better for them.

In my 6 days in Sosua I witnessed a person getting his gold chain snatched during the day and away from the strip, I witnessed a monger getting into an argument with the politur and a chica because of a disagreement on the amount he should pay her (I don't think it went his way, and he should have just paid what they agreed and left it as that) , and I was part of a group that was almost taken for a ride by the guy that collects the fares on the publico. He wanted 100 pesos each for a 35 peso ride. I gave him 35 pesos and walked away.

There are mongers who travel with the minimal amount of information about places. They get there and try to wing it. My advice is written with them in mind. I want them to protect themselves. Then when they feel more comfortable, they can take more chances.

You want to dissect every comment I post that you don't agree with, you can't seem to understand why I advise what I advise, and you seem to be surprised when I reply with what appears to you as sarcasm after you continually dissect my posts. Yet when Mr. E posted that he gives the cashier his wallet and tells her to take what he owes her you make no comment.

I appreciate your posts. I feel they are intelligent, well written, and usually full of information.

I don't know what you have against my posts, but believe me, all I am trying to do is help the new guys.

Perhaps you should be encouraging that instead of attacking it.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1549441]I don't know how old the brother was, but if he was old enough he should have been encouraged to go out and find work, instead of begging. That is one of the things that is assbackwards with enough families now. People accepting complacency, laziness, encouraging and condoning begging.[/QUOTE]I stopped at the Shell in Boca Chica to fill up my rental car yesterday. After getting gas 4 times I knew how much I needed to get to the 3/4 tank mark where I had to turn the car in. I pulled up and asked for 500 on regular. I went into the trunk to change clothes while the guy was pumping my gas. He asked if I would give him the flip flops that I had on as a gift. WTF? Then I quickly looked at the pump and it was stopped at 300. I was in such a hurry and so busy changing clothes that I didn't look at it again until I was back in the car. By then it had been reset to 0. After I drove off and the fuel gauge didn't move to where I knew it should have, I realized what had happened. That mf got me for 200 pesos. I had to pay Budget $14 for 1/8 tank of gas.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549484]But when I travel to places such as Sosua, parts of Bangkok, Pattaya, places in Mexico.[/QUOTE]What part of Bangkok?

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549484]WRX2005, I will eat my words and respond because I feel your post makes some valid points and deserves a response.[/QUOTE]Why in the fuck do you think an explanation to WRX2005 deserves a response?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1549572]Why in the fuck do you think an explanation to WRX2005 deserves a response?[/QUOTE]Perhaps his comments don't deserve a response but maybe some newbie will skim through the pages and pages of crap I posted and hopefully be able to squeeze a little bit of useful information out of it. Maybe they will reach out to the poster whose point of view they agree with and request more information.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549605]Perhaps his comments don't deserve a response but maybe some newbie will skim through the pages and pages of crap I posted and hopefully be able to squeeze a little bit of useful information out of it. Maybe they will reach out to the poster whose point of view they agree with and request more information.[/QUOTE]We all have our own way to roll, so what works for me may not work for you.

If you live down there, you operate differently from the one week vacationer.

The beauty of this board is that we get the opportunity to hear what others are doing, and incorporate it (or not) into our own behaviour.

Either way it's all good info, and a newbie can pick and choose what suits his own style, personality, and of course, his financial situation.

I identify with several of you guys, and your experiences generally match mine, and this has been invaluable to me.

Others, not so much.

So keep posting your own experiences, Phuquer, I, for one, look forward to your posts, and don't take issue with what others do. It's their dime, and they can spend it how they wish.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1549516]I stopped at the Shell in Boca Chica to fill up my rental car yesterday. After getting gas 4 times I knew how much I needed to get to the 3/4 tank mark where I had to turn the car in. I pulled up and asked for 500 on regular. I went into the trunk to change clothes while the guy was pumping my gas. He asked if I would give him the flip flops that I had on as a gift. WTF? Then I quickly looked at the pump and it was stopped at 300. I was in such a hurry and so busy changing clothes that I didn't look at it again until I was back in the car. By then it had been reset to 0. After I drove off and the fuel gauge didn't move to where I knew it should have, I realized what had happened. That mf got me for 200 pesos. I had to pay Budget $14 for 1/8 tank of gas.[/QUOTE]This should be reposted in the newbie error thread, or maybe the bad karma thread if you are a disciple of Wrx.

"The beauty of this board is that we get the opportunity to hear what others are doing, and incorporate it (or not) into our own behaviour.

Either way it's all good info, and a newbie can pick and choose what suits his own style, personality, and of course, his financial situation."

Correct! There is no bad info. This board is so much better for info (which most of us appreciate) then any other venue for our hobby. The other board has been reduced to one posting a day or nonsensical gibberish. Jackson's hands on approach with this board has kept it one of the best IMHO! Thank you Jackson.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1549690]This should be reposted in the newbie error thread, or maybe the bad karma thread if you are a disciple of Wrx.[/QUOTE]LOL! We all can be had at times but some apparently can be had so bad and so often that they become a gramophone record of eternal malcontent.

I am in Santiago. Did the 37 year old mom of a 19 year I had met last time and after one night's session on Sunday with a 22 year old, I had to give myself a break yesterday. My real complaint is about the punctuality issues of the chicas. But then while in Rome. Etc etc.

I do love the freshly fried empanadas with a chilled beer though.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1549701]LOL! We all can be had at times but some apparently can be had so bad and so often that they become a gramophone record of eternal malcontent.

I am in Santiago. Did the 37 year old mom of a 19 year I had met last time and after one night's session on Sunday with a 22 year old, I had to give myself a break yesterday. My real complaint is about the punctuality issues of the chicas. But then while in Rome. Etc etc.

I do love the freshly fried empanadas with a chilled beer though.[/QUOTE]I had a wild 3some last night with two very hot and juicy empanadas, so I know what you mean. However, they did come on time, more than once.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1549701]I am in Santiago. Did the 37 year old mom of a 19 year I had met last time and after one night's session on Sunday with a 22 year old, I had to give myself a break yesterday. My real complaint is about the punctuality issues of the chicas. But then while in Rome. Etc etc.[/QUOTE]Not to beat a dead horse, but fuck Rome and train them in the way they should go. Last week I was leaving San Francisco heading to Santiago. I called a Santiago girl and told her I would be at the meeting spot in 40 minutes. She said okay. Call me when you arrive. I said no no no. You don't need to meet me there, you need to beat me there. If you are not there by the time I get there in 40 minutes then I will just keep going. You better believe she was there when I pulled up.

That evening my law school chick was supposed to come by. She was in a public car on the way home from school. She said she would come over as soon as she went home and took a shower and put on other clothes. No more than 30 minutes after our conversation she arrived.

The day after that another chick was on the way. I told her to be at the hotel in 20 minutes or I was leaving. She said she would be there in 15. It seemed more like 10 minutes when she arrived. Start putting your foot down and letting them know where you stand. I know a lot of guys are scared they will lose out on pussy if they get tough. I think I have more pussy than time, so that is the least of my worries. Whenever I give them a time I literally start my stopwatch.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1549848]Not to beat a dead horse, but fuck Rome and train them in the way they should go. Last week I was leaving San Francisco heading to Santiago. I called a Santiago girl and told her I would be at the meeting spot in 40 minutes. She said okay. Call me when you arrive. I said no no no. You don't need to meet me there, you need to beat me there. If you are not there by the time I get there in 40 minutes then I will just keep going. You better believe she was there when I pulled up.

That evening my law school chick was supposed to come by. She was in a public car on the way home from school. She said she would come over as soon as she went home and took a shower and put on other clothes. No more than 30 minutes after our conversation she arrived.

The day after that another chick was on the way. I told her to be at the hotel in 20 minutes or I was leaving. She said she would be there in 15. It seemed more like 10 minutes when she arrived. Start putting your foot down and letting them know where you stand. I know a lot of guys are scared they will lose out on pussy if they get tough. I think I have more pussy than time, so that is the least of my worries. Whenever I give them a time I literally start my stopwatch.[/QUOTE]Damn skippy! If she wants my money. I treat chicas with respect, but they will respect my time. I let pussy go that I wanted so bad just to make a statement in the DR. She is still trying contact me. The employer should hold the employee accountable for tardiness unless she is giving you a 5 minutes play by play location. I had a girl in J-ville (duuuvaaalll) that I gave my play by play location out of respect because I was running late. She never told me she was running late too. I arrived and thats when she told me she was running late. 38 minutes and 16 seconds! My guts was begging me to leave but dick made me stay. She ordered the snow crab, shimp and had 2 drinks. Shortly afterwards, I took her to the movies and she order nachos with cheese. She was telling me how she didn't deal with local guys, doesn't pay to get in clubs, get drinks free for her and her girls and invited me to go out with her and her girl friends. (read in between the lines). I didn't get the pussy, but that was one of the last straws to my ascension to the DR. Time wasted 5 1/2 hours, cost $120 excluding gas however, the lesson I learned about the value of my time "priceless". (I just wish I could have taugh her)

[QUOTE=Frannie;1549804]I had a wild 3some last night with two very hot and juicy empanadas, so I know what you mean. However, they did come on time, more than once.[/QUOTE]Franny you"re a stud!

Now, to my mind there's only a couple ways this happens, either you paid for two chicas, or you spent time setting it up with two chicas that liked each other, or it just happened while partying.

Tell us more!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1549864]Damn skippy! If she wants my money. I treat chicas with respect, but they will respect my time. I let pussy go that I wanted so bad just to make a statement in the DR. She is still trying contact me. The employer should hold the employee accountable for tardiness unless she is giving you a 5 minutes play by play location. I had a girl in J-ville (duuuvaaalll) that I gave my play by play location out of respect because I was running late. She never told me she was running late too. I arrived and thats when she told me she was running late. 38 minutes and 16 seconds! My guts was begging me to leave but dick made me stay. She ordered the snow crab, shimp and had 2 drinks. Shortly afterwards, I took her to the movies and she order nachos with cheese. She was telling me how she didn't deal with local guys, doesn't pay to get in clubs, get drinks free for her and her girls and invited me to go out with her and her girl friends. (read in between the lines). I didn't get the pussy, but that was one of the last straws to my ascension to the DR. Time wasted 5 1/2 hours, cost $120 excluding gas however, the lesson I learned about the value of my time "priceless". (I just wish I could have taugh her)[/QUOTE]The chase and the expectation. That's what it's all about.

You have to be prepared to invest in the unknown, because you never know when everything will come together perfect! It does come together often enough to make the investment worthwhile, though.

My buddy had a great saying. When I told him I was going out with my dream girl finally, or even a hot date, he would say,"don't powder your ass".

He was absolutely right. The more you look forward to something, the more something will go wrong.

When you haven't seen a shower in days, and you don't care, THAT"S when the magic happens. Go figure!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1549848].Start putting your foot down and letting them know where you stand. I know a lot of guys are scared they will lose out on pussy if they get tough. I think I have more pussy than time, so that is the least of my worries. Whenever I give them a time I literally start my stopwatch.[/QUOTE]Words to live by!

Depends on what you're doing though. Sitting in a hotel room or a restaurant table waiting can be deadly.

On the other hand, having a few drinks with friends, and you don't care whether she shows up or not.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1549870]Franny you"re a stud!

Now, to my mind there's only a couple ways this happens, either you paid for two chicas, or you spent time setting it up with two chicas that liked each other, or it just happened while partying.

Tell us more![/QUOTE]None of the above, to tell the truth. Sordid details to follow.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1549848]Not to beat a dead horse, but fuck Rome.[/QUOTE]No worries! I typically have 20 women scheduled for a week long trip. So my stress is really with culling. Today I had to say goodbye to one woman from Bonao and another from San Francisco. Both screwed up on time and schedule issues.

At the same time a university girl came ahead of schedule and another girl from barrio kept me posted by texting as she boarded the carro but the point I was making was that I'm on no mission to change the country. Rome it will always be long after I am gone. LOL.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1549891]None of the above, to tell the truth. Sordid details to follow.[/QUOTE]Every threesome is different, because you are dealing with a complex interaction of personalities and sexual roles.

My preference is to start with a chica with whom you have a long term, but excellent sexual relationship, one where you don't pay for sex and have bareback sex, that way the pressure is off. You can then start with just having a third chica along to observe and gradually build into more participation as a fun thing.

My latest threesome involved adding a barmaid from the Rancho Tipico close to where Passions used to be (still is, but closed). She could not leave until 3:30 a. M. She was / is a tallish Haitian girl who does not speak Spanish, hardly. She did not look all that great dressed as she was just in regular jeans and top, but when the clothes came off at the cabana, she had a spectacular unmarked gorgeous body with marvelous smooth skin, no tattoos, etc.

She also had a tremendous technique for handling a pussy, obviously having studied instructional videos on two-handed techniques (she would make a great piano player) and it was just one long screaming, grinding orgasmathon in which I was more or less a spectator, occasionally lending a helping hand or tongue, though I did get my rocks off at the end, of course. Just a great experience. Went home afterwards at 5:00, slept, then fucked again at 9:00 with fresh memories of the night before.

Also have another chica of 19 lined up for the next round. This kind of thing is what makes Sosua so great.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1549931]No worries! I typically have 20 women scheduled for a week long trip. So my stress is really with culling. Today I had to say goodbye to one woman from Bonao and another from San Francisco. Both screwed up on time and schedule issues.

At the same time a university girl came ahead of schedule and another girl from barrio kept me posted by texting as she boarded the carro but the point I was making was that I'm on no mission to change the country. Rome it will always be long after I am gone. LOL.[/QUOTE]So Tempo no e corto after all?

It is all mental attitude. It is always better to be the latecomer than the impatient waiter, and if you are the waiter, then to have a don't care attitude. To me this is better than missionary endeavors to improve the Dominican breeding stock.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1549848]Not to beat a dead horse, but fuck Rome and train them in the way they should go. I think I have more pussy than time, so that is the least of my worries. Whenever I give them a time I literally start my stopwatch.[/QUOTE]But then you are making an investment of your time to train them, like a racehorse owner with your stopwatch in your hand clocking intervals. Isn't it a bit obsessional to take a stopwatch to the DR for this purpose?

It is true that pussy is a commodity like eggs or potatoes and branding is not very important, but sex is all about the interaction of personalities, and while it might be an exaggeration to say everyone is unique, the variety of types of personality is almost infinite.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1549875]The chase and the expectation. That's what it's all about.

You have to be prepared to invest in the unknown, because you never know when everything will come together perfect! It does come together often enough to make the investment worthwhile, though.

My buddy had a great saying. When I told him I was going out with my dream girl finally, or even a hot date, he would say,"don't powder your ass".

He was absolutely right. The more you look forward to something, the more something will go wrong.

When you haven't seen a shower in days, and you don't care, THAT"S when the magic happens. Go figure![/QUOTE]Spot on. Post of the millennium.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1549875]The chase and the expectation. That's what it's all about.

My buddy had a great saying. When I told him I was going out with my dream girl finally, or even a hot date, he would say,"don't powder your ass".

![/QUOTE]I think that's what I love about the DR. Unlike the US You can powder your ass! Upgrade your standards once you get off the plane. If you are a person with a little pesos pussy is easy accessable and cheap. From 19-99, its not about will you get some, its what sexy chica or chicas is on the menu for the morning, noon, and / or night. It's hard to go wrong once you have a general understanding.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1550109]So Tempo no e corto after all?[/QUOTE]No, time is definitely running short for me. Nonetheless, I find it is hard to get into the minds of these people without being in their shoes. A girl was supposed to visit me from Los Almacigos but only at the last moment she spoke of not having money for the passage. Knowing that we are speaking of 150 pesos, from our perspective, it is hard to see why one cannot think of these things ahead of time. I can only speculate and yes, I am not going to be trying to change it for a day when all that she will have to go through, in life, would be without any support from me. Nonetheless, I confess that faced with the scheduling stress of various women each day given the short 7 day stint of mine, it sometimes gets me for most likely no fault of theirs.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1549875]The chase and the expectation. That's what it's all about.[/QUOTE]No doubt it gets the adrenaline going. At the same time, I kind of am coming to Frannie's conclusion that "quality" sex is intimately connected with feelings. I had a woman who looked away as I was humping her (a first timer and no chemistry) while another one (a second timer but first time I gave her an excellent orgasm without entering her as she was not ready) gave me the time of a night leading to the wee hours.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1550269]No, time is definitely running short for me. Nonetheless, I find it is hard to get into the minds of these people without being in their shoes. A girl was supposed to visit me from Los Almacigos but only at the last moment she spoke of not having money for the passage. Knowing that we are speaking of 150 pesos, from our perspective, it is hard to see why one cannot think of these things ahead of time. I can only speculate and yes, I am not going to be trying to change it for a day when all that she will have to go through, in life, would be without any support from me. Nonetheless, I confess that faced with the scheduling stress of various women each day given the short 7 day stint of mine, it sometimes gets me for most likely no fault of theirs.[/QUOTE]She could borrow 150, so maybe just a lame excuse unless she was seeking assurance that you will reimburse.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1550270]At the same time, I kind of am coming to Frannie's conclusion that "quality" sex is intimately connected with feelings. I had a woman who looked away as I was humping her (a first timer and no chemistry) while another one (a second timer but first time I gave her an excellent orgasm without entering her as she was not ready) gave me the time of a night leading to the wee hours.[/QUOTE]Yes, good points.

I was in D'Latino last night purely in an observational capacity as I was with a beautiful woman. There were plenty of chicas available. Interestingly a large proportion were actually light skinned, even though we tend to think of Sosua as a resort for those who like the juice of the darker berry.

To me it seemed that it would be very difficult to make an informed choice in that place as it is difficult to converse, somewhat dark, difficult to circulate and talk to a lot of people because you need to put your mouth by the person's ear to speak, and many guys who visit don't speak Spanish, or not much, anyway, which makes it hard to read the fundamental character of the girl.

That way you will probably end up taking a girl whose general looks and outline meet your selection criteria, but this brings no guarantee whatsoever of great sex (assuming that is what you are looking for.) Often the best lookers are the worst performers anyway. Just today I saw a lovely Haitian girl of about 18 walking along the road. She had a perfect symmetrical face, legs, a bottom like a peach, perfect pins, the indolent stroll that I like, plus perfect brown velvet skin. She looked back over her shoulder three times at me and we exchanged nods and smiles, but I did not approach as I had other things to do. And yet, perfect as she was, there is absolutely no guarantee at all that she would be any use in the sack.

The best ones are those that you have some kind of a vibe with, but this may only become apparent in the bedroom. In a crowded noisy place with lots of chicas it is a crapshoot, and maybe a completely random selection will be just on average as good as a carefully chosen target.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1550453]Yes, good points.

I was in D'Latino last night purely in an observational capacity as I was with a beautiful woman. There were plenty of chicas available. To me it seemed that it would be very difficult to make an informed choice in that place as it is difficult to converse, somewhat dark, difficult to circulate and talk to a lot of people because you need to put your mouth by the person's ear to speak, and many guys who visit don't speak Spanish, or not much, anyway, which makes it hard to read the fundamental character of the girl. The best ones are those that you have some kind of a vibe with, but this may only become apparent in the bedroom. In a crowded noisy place with lots of chicas it is a crapshoot, and maybe a completely random selection will be just on average as good as a carefully chosen target.[/QUOTE]This is the reason learning basic Spanish is an asset to the DR mongering scene. In the case of D Latin's I have received good results interviewing chicas by going to the back enclosed porch area where it is cooler and the noise is not as loud, as well as asking the chica to accompany me either to the Mernegue across the street or the Mamajama Café. This changes the vibe and makes it more like a date experience where you can laugh joke and check her pulse. On one occasion I discovered a chica was sick but still wanted me to take her and another occasion a chica didn't want to talk but wanted to go straight to my hotel room. In both instances I was glad I took the time to interview because I am sure their situations would have reflected in their performance.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1550437]She could borrow 150, so maybe just a lame excuse unless she was seeking assurance that you will reimburse.[/QUOTE]Money is not the issue. She knows that. I told her to borrow when she told me at the last moment. And she knows me for two years. So that is why I gave up trying to figure out.

Camaro 1257.

[QUOTE]This is the reason learning basic Spanish is an asset to the DR mongering scene. In the case of D Latin's I have received good results interviewing chicas by going to the back enclosed porch area where it is cooler and the noise is not as loud, as well as asking the chica to accompany me either to the Mernegue across the street or the Mamajama Café. This changes the vibe and makes it more like a date experience where you can laugh joke and check her pulse. On one occasion I discovered a chica was sick but still wanted me to take her and another occasion a chica didn't want to talk but wanted to go straight to my hotel room. In both instances I was glad I took the time to interview because I am sure their situations would have reflected in their performance.[/QUOTE]Yes, this seems like a decent strategy, although by the very act of taking her out of D'Latinos you are making some commitment of time and resources to her, but not irrevocably, which is good. I think that after a little while it can be a good idea to talk dirty for a bit. Ask her something like,"If you come to the room with me, what can you do to make me happy?" If her response sounds good, then respond by telling her that you have a girlfriend back home, so you cannot cheat. If the chica is any good at all she will start telling you all the reasons why you should cheat, and this can be turned into a bit of a flirtation and make you co-conspirators in cheating the (possibly nonexistent) girl back home. At any rate you should be able to establish if your chica has a good sense of humor and a lusty outlook and hopefully whether she will be sexually responsive to you.

Of course you can replace my script with one of your own. You can also teach yourself Spanish by prehearsing the lines you will use in Spanish via Google Translateto make yourself sound more fluent, and of course the same lines can be recycled for different chicas.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1550547]Camaro 1257.

Yes, this seems like a decent strategy, although by the very act of taking her out of D'Latinos you are making some commitment of time and resources to her, but not irrevocably, which is good. I think that after a little while it can be a good idea to talk dirty for a bit. Ask her something like,"If you come to the room with me, what can you do to make me happy?" If her response sounds good, then respond by telling her that you have a girlfriend back home, so you cannot cheat. If the chica is any good at all she will start telling you all the reasons why you should cheat, and this can be turned into a bit of a flirtation and make you co-conspirators in cheating the (possibly nonexistent) girl back home. At any rate you should be able to establish if your chica has a good sense of humor and a lusty outlook and hopefully whether she will be sexually responsive to you.

Of course you can replace my script with one of your own. You can also teach yourself Spanish by prehearsing the lines you will use in Spanish via Google Translateto make yourself sound more fluent, and of course the same lines can be recycled for different chicas.[/QUOTE]My strategy is somewhat different, but it is very successful for me, and always leads to a more satifying experience.

I hang at two or three bars, where I might have long standing relationships (through my old novia, LP) with the chica bartenders. We discuss family, their latest relationships, pregnancies etc, and talk about what happened to the ones that are no longer there. I've actually been to some of their homes. I'm having a good time and not apparently looking to get laid. This is my base, from which I'm operating.

Usually, there are chicas hanging around who are also friends of theirs, so we have something in common. If I see one that interests me, I'll buy her a beer. Might also buy the bartender a drink at the same time, and by the body language of the bartender, I can tell if she approves my choice and gives the green light. (they have that "look" if you buy the wrong one a drink).

It's not noisy like Rhumba or D'Latin, so you can chat (interview, or audition) at leisure. If she turns your crank on a barstool, she can probably do the same in bed. While this is going on there are others around giving you the sign, so if the present conversation is going nowhere, you can gradually enlarge the circle to bring another one in. At some point I leave the bar once or twice with my tab still running (ATM machine, or across the street if I see an old face, or just for a stroll and a smoke) and this really seems to establish my credit in the eyes of the chicas, and further perks their interest. It also give me a breather to think clearly about my choices.

This may sound too complicated or structured, but in reality it flows naturally and there's no direct propositioning or negotiating until you've found "the one".

You've had a couple of beers, face time with her, she's known to your friends the bartenders, she's given you a hard on already, she's happy to be "chosen", and you're off to the races.

Note, there's no wingman involved, because I mostly travel alone.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1550108]Every threesome is different, because you are dealing with a complex interaction of personalities and sexual roles.

My preference is to start with a chica with whom you have a long term, but excellent sexual relationship, one where you don't pay for sex and have bareback sex, that way the pressure is off. You can then start with just having a third chica along to observe and gradually build into more participation as a fun thing.

My latest threesome involved adding a barmaid from the Rancho Tipico close to where Passions used to be (still is, but closed). She could not leave until 3:30 am She was / is a tallish Haitian girl who does not speak Spanish, hardly. She did not look all that great dressed as she was just in regular jeans and top, but when the clothes came off at the cabana, she had a spectacular unmarked gorgeous body with marvelous smooth skin, no tattoos, etc.

She also had a tremendous technique for handling a pussy, obviously having studied instructional videos on two-handed techniques (she would make a great piano player) and it was just one long screaming, grinding orgasmathon in which I was more or less a spectator, occasionally lending a helping hand or tongue, though I did get my rocks off at the end, of course. Just a great experience. Went home afterwards at 5:00, slept, then fucked again at 9:00 with fresh memories of the night before.

Also have another chica of 19 lined up for the next round. This kind of thing is what makes Sosua so great.[/QUOTE]Never had a threesome down there (yet) Mostly it was because of my ex-novia, LP.

I had one set up with a tourist party girl from New England who took a shine to both of us, at a hotel pool bar happy hour in BC. LP and her were dancing together and turning me on, but when it came time to get things organized, LP turned off. I found out later she had deleted the pics of the occasion from my cell phone.

Another time a sweet quiet girl who was vaguely related hung out with us for a couple of days, just smiling, but when I started to organize things, LP put her foot down.

That's why I say that there is more to some of these relationships than just money. I would have paid generously for the opportunity and she knew it. There was no chance of me hooking up with any one of them (the tourist chica was leaving the next day, and the quiet smiling one had no English, so we never had a conversation.)

Anyway, now I'm free, so who knows when?

I got to Sosua yesterday afternoon via a convoluted route. San Francisco De Macoris, Tenares and then doing the mountain road across for 43 Km to Gasper Hernandez, on the way to Cabarete and on to Sosua. The mountain road was surprisingly good. With hardly any traffic and only a few places where landslide has taken a toll of the road. I took a bunch of pictures but unfortunately do no have the USB cable to hook the phone up to the laptop. Perhaps when I get back home.

Called Frannie in the evening and as luck would have it, he was free and so we met at Pedro Clisante at the Austrian restaurant. Excellent Wiener Scnitzel with a side of potato rosti and salad, washed down with a bottle of water and finished with tiramisu mit eine Kappucino. I later went to the cigar bar to buy a cigar. 180 pesos but it was good after a good meal. So Frannie and I just stayed at the restaurant and discussing Pushkin and Hardy while seeing the world go by. People of my age and older. All there for their last hurrah, we thought! Got back to my place at 12 midnight. Have a 10 o'clock for the beach and hopefully something else and so it was good giving it a rest for the day.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1550585]Usually, there are chicas hanging around who are also friends of theirs, so we have something in common. If I see one that interests me, I'll buy her a beer. Might also buy the bartender a drink at the same time, and by the body language of the bartender, I can tell if she approves my choice and gives the green light. (they have that "look" if you buy the wrong one a drink).

It's not noisy like Rhumba or D'Latin, so you can chat (interview, or audition) at leisure. If she turns your crank on a barstool, she can probably do the same in bed. While this is going on there are others around giving you the sign, so if the present conversation is going nowhere, you can gradually enlarge the circle to bring another one in. At some point I leave the bar once or twice with my tab still running (ATM machine, or across the street if I see an old face, or just for a stroll and a smoke) and this really seems to establish my credit in the eyes of the chicas, and further perks their interest. It also give me a breather to think clearly about my choices.

This may sound too complicated or structured, but in reality it flows naturally and there's no direct propositioning or negotiating until you've found "the one".[/QUOTE]That sounds like a good style and effective technique you have developed for yourself! You are batting and left handed everyone else is practicing right.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1550644]That sounds like a good style and effective technique you have developed for yourself! You are batting and left handed everyone else is practicing right.[/QUOTE]It's a "grooming" process. You get to observe her, over a beer. If she's constantly scanning the room, or her cell phone, you can be sure that all she sees when she's looking at you is dinero. You tell her (with a smile) that you're not going anywhere, so she should take a walk and make some business.

The good ones make you feel like you're the only guy there, and you should be able to have a laugh with her, it's not a serious business. Let her take you to her favorite bar and introduce you to her chica bartender friends. I hadn't been to Sosua for a couple of years, so the new "connections" at the new bars, were invaluable.

And so the whole process starts over again.

And they generally don't like the beach, they don't like the sun. So if she suggests going to the beach the next day it's usually because she has a friend or relative running a bar / restaurant down there, and she wants to bring them your business.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1550687]It's a "grooming" process. You get to observe her, over a beer. If she's constantly scanning the room, or her cell phone, you can be sure that all she sees when she's looking at you is dinero. You tell her (with a smile) that you're not going anywhere, so she should take a walk and make some business.[/QUOTE]LOL. You guys make picking up hookers so complicated. What has always worked for me is to grab one and say let's go.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1550691]LOL. You guys make picking up hookers so complicated. What has always worked for me is to grab one and say let's go.[/QUOTE]Not at all, that's the point. It's a fun and comes naturally to me. It's all part of having your favorite beer at a friendly bar, and checking out the action. My favorite way to spend time (at my age, I spend way more time playing the game, than actually fucking, LOL)

One other thing for the newbies.

Don't answer her chatty texts she'll be sending you every hour, on the hour. Those conversations usually lead to a small request for a little dinero to top up her phone. Hell, you're part of that conversation so what's the harm? Once you agree, later she'll want a little gift for bambina's 1st birthday, no problem you may say?

Once she's got you there, it will be hard to refuse money for the kid's much needed doctors visit, blood transfusion, or some other cocked up little crisis.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1550691]LOL. You guys make picking up hookers so complicated. What has always worked for me is to grab one and say let's go.[/QUOTE]Why audition a chica in bed, after you've paid?

When, for the price of a beer.....!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1550691]LOL. You guys make picking up hookers so complicated. What has always worked for me is to grab one and say let's go.[/QUOTE]Like I said before, random selection might be just as effective, but one likes to attempt to increase the odds of a real sexual connection and a memorable experience rather than just a paid encounter.

Note how many complaints we get here of guys who are disappointed with the performance of the chica.

[quote=oakie; 1550591]never had a threesome down there (yet) mostly it was because of my ex-novia, lp.

i had one set up with a tourist party girl from new england who took a shine to both of us, at a hotel pool bar happy hour in bc. lp and her were dancing together and turning me on, but when it came time to get things organized, lp turned off. i found out later she had deleted the pics of the occasion from my cell phone.

another time a sweet quiet girl who was vaguely related hung out with us for a couple of days, just smiling, but when i started to organize things, lp put her foot down.

that's why i say that there is more to some of these relationships than just money. i would have paid generously for the opportunity and she knew it. there was no chance of me hooking up with any one of them (the tourist chica was leaving the next day, and the quiet smiling one had no english, so we never had a conversation.)

anyway, now i'm free, so who knows when?[/quote]it is complex. women are jealous of other women. women might not want you to have sex with another woman. they may not mind having another woman eat their pussy, but they may find the idea of doing that to another woman where she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord110][CodeWord110][/url] quite repulsive. that's why each threesome and determining who does what is quite complex. then you get into the whole issue of condoms, contraception, bareback, etc. all of these things have to be sorted out, or at least develop some kind of three way memo of understanding as to what will or will not take place. this does not need to be a very formal process, but it is necessary for a great time to be had.

[quote=frannie;1550701]it is complex. women are jealous of other women. women might not want you to have sex with another woman. they may not mind having another woman eat their pussy, but they may find the idea of doing that to another woman where she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord110][CodeWord110][/url] quite repulsive. that's why each threesome and determining who does what is quite complex. then you get into the whole issue of condoms, contraception, bareback, etc. all of these things have to be sorted out, or at least develop some kind of three way memo of understanding as to what will or will not take place. this does not need to be a very formal process, but it is necessary for a great time to be had.[/quote]this all goes to my point, which some, including cubadave get wrong. they say it's all and only about money, like they are all zombies.

if you have any kind of ongoing relationship with one of the girls it gets complicated.

but if you pick up two random chicas, feed them with booze (and money) you can get the job done relatively easier.

Now you know you are dealing with a real master swordsman when you meet a guy like Tempoecorto, whom I shared an hour or two with last night in Calle Pedro Clisante, who drove into Sosua last night not to get laid, but to take a night off from fucking and enjoy a good Wiener Schnitzel. Now that is class!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1550714]This all goes to my point, which some, including CubaDave get wrong. They say it's all and only about money, like they are all zombies.

If you have any kind of ongoing relationship with one of the girls it gets complicated.

But if you pick up two random chicas, feed them with booze (and money) you can get the job done relatively easier.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can, but there is a massive difference between a "happy hour", basically two for the price of one, and an interactive three-way experience focused on the pleasure of all three rather than on just the one.

Another complication I didn't mention above, but will a chica fuck you bareback after another chica has had your dick in her mouth, or do you have to go and wash off first? Those without experience of threesomes will miss some of the nuances that can so easily make it all go wrong.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1550718]Now you know you are dealing with a real master swordsman when you meet a guy like Tempoecorto, whom I shared an hour or two with last night in Calle Pedro Clisante, who drove into Sosua last night not to get laid, but to take a night off from fucking and enjoy a good Wiener Schnitzel. Now that is class![/QUOTE]Nonsense! If someones purpose is to be associated with class they wouldn't be in Sosua at all.

We all accept that there is nothing classy about being in the hottest trick spot in the Caribbean, we go there because its seedy. So to go there and not partake in the activities and brag about eating a hot dog could be considered lame by most master swordsmen.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1550718]enjoy a good Wiener Schnitzel.[/QUOTE]Yo Frannie!

I leave today, but next time I come to town I have a good Wiener Schnitzel that you might enjoy!:)

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1550691]LOL. You guys make picking up hookers so complicated. What has always worked for me is to grab one and say let's go.[/QUOTE]His style does seem slow, but I often wonder about the guys that hangout at the little bars were there's seemingly no action worth giving 10 seconds of attention. I say to myself "why are these guys sitting around here when all the action is up the road"? I can see myself passing Oakie at the almost empty bar as he is making casual conversion with the few chicas in there. I guess when you are mongering. You hunt in the forest that suits your style.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1550821]His style does seem slow, but I often wonder about the guys that hangout at the little bars were there's seemingly no action worth giving 10 seconds of attention. I say to myself "why are these guys sitting around here when all the action is up the road"? I can see myself passing Oakie at the almost empty bar as he is making casual conversion with the few chicas in there. I guess when you are mongering. You hunt in the forest that suits your style.[/QUOTE]I prefer to fish in the ocean with the most fish.

I will be in DR for the Easter weekend. I was told by a friend that a the clubs close down on Saturday and open up on Sunday nightat11:59. Anyone has been there during this Holiday and / or has legit info.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1550758]Nonsense! If someones purpose is to be associated with class they wouldn't be in Sosua at all.

We all accept that there is nothing classy about being in the hottest trick spot in the Caribbean, we go there because its seedy. So to go there and not partake in the activities and brag about eating a hot dog could be considered lame by most master swordsmen.[/QUOTE]If I understand your analogy correctly, Mr Gogo, that is the equivalent of me watching porn movies because I like the soundtrack music!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1550758]Nonsense! If someones purpose is to be associated with class they wouldn't be in Sosua at all.

We all accept that there is nothing classy about being in the hottest trick spot in the Caribbean, we go there because its seedy. So to go there and not partake in the activities and brag about eating a hot dog could be considered lame by most master swordsmen.[/QUOTE]Sosua is not really "seedy", as it is constantly regenerating itself, though the Austrian guy who has the excellent schnitzel has been there for 15 years. In the more than ten years I have known Sosua the economic development has been considerable and the town is currently thriving as much as ever as evidenced by difficulty finding convenient parking spaces in the daytime, long lines in the supermarket, restaurants with all tables occupied, etc.

Only a person with no class thinks that a hand-prepared Wiener schnitzel is comparable to a hot dog or Frankfurter, a cheap factory-produced processed meat sausage, and does not yet know how to use Google to look up a term he does not understand.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175655/So-really-ingredients-really-sausage-Read-eat-frankfurter-again.html[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Schnitzel[/url]

The good thing about Sosua is that it has chicas, but also a wide range of restaurants with a variety of ethnic cuisines, selling made-from-scratch dishes, many of which are excellent value and within walking distance of each other. Compare with the dining experience in Puerto Plata or Santiago and you will soon see what I mean.

Note that in Sosua the ITBIS always seems to be included in the advertised price, though elsewhere they add it on afterwards, which is quite misleading.

I don't want to embarrass Tempoecorto by anything I write that is misunderstood by the peanut gallery, but my point-which maybe I should have spelled out better- was that he was roaming the island in rented car with so many chica sex date appointments on his calendar that he could afford to take the night off in the prostitute-rich environment of Sosua to give his overworked love tool a well-deserved rest from combat duty.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1550768]Yo Frannie!

I leave today, but next time I come to town I have a good Wiener Schnitzel that you might enjoy.[/QUOTE]Perhaps we can slice it down the center and wash it down with some Pilsner.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1550758]Nonsense! If someones purpose is to be associated with class they wouldn't be in Sosua at all.

We all accept that there is nothing classy about being in the hottest trick spot in the Caribbean, we go there because its seedy. So to go there and not partake in the activities and brag about eating a hot dog could be considered lame by most master swordsmen.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, so, as I only fly business / first anymore, if United overbooks and bumps me back to a middle seat in row 27 next to you, have I lost all class?

[QUOTE]His style does seem slow, but I often wonder about the guys that hangout at the little bars were there's seemingly no action worth giving 10 seconds of attention. I say to myself "why are these guys sitting around here when all the action is up the road"? I can see myself passing Oakie at the almost empty bar as he is making casual conversion with the few chicas in there. I guess when you are mongering. You hunt in the forest that suits your style.[/QUOTE]I think they are probably expat alcoholics who go there for drinks and conversation and don't need to go to the large and noisy pussy bars.

Recently I have been to the Rancho Tipico a few times, which has entertaining dancing and a very relaxed vibe without the deafening noise and is a relaxing alternative venue. There are also chicas, but you can't take them out until they close around 3:30, though I guess you could arrange daytime meetups.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1550829]I prefer to fish in the ocean with the most fish.[/QUOTE]The oceans are connected and fungible.

The hot dog reference was a playful dig but you didn't think it was funny. That was a long ass reply, thanks."Over worked love tool?" I don't think I've ever in my life described another mans dick or called another man classy, but to each his own.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1550821]His style does seem slow, but I often wonder about the guys that hangout at the little bars were there's seemingly no action worth giving 10 seconds of attention. I say to myself "why are these guys sitting around here when all the action is up the road"? I can see myself passing Oakie at the almost empty bar as he is making casual conversion with the few chicas in there. I guess when you are mongering. You hunt in the forest that suits your style.[/QUOTE]Ah, that's really sad!

But you'll never find Oakie there.

He's down on the strip where the action is, partying hard.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1550857]to give his overworked love tool a well-deserved rest from combat duty.[/QUOTE]I love the military terminology writing to military guys.

I wrote a short note about wiener schnitzel last night but apparently it did not pass the edits. Anyway, it is a veal or a pork cutlet that went with roasted potatoes, washed down with water followed by a tiramisu mit eine kappucino and a cigar from the cigar bar. Thoroughly enjoyable carnal experience. I must admit (and I am not classy, blame Frannie with his wry Brit humor) I went to sosua for the beach (playa alecia. This morning with a hottie and her prima) and the food. I chatted earlier yesterday with a NYPD retiree for several hours close to Coco hotel and then spoke to a Roman who sells genuine ingredients to the italian restaurants and tonight hopefully it is an Italian restaurant. Strange as it may sound, I am not going to pick up a single one from Sosua this trip. I do have to say though, I was eating lunch at a place with a woman today. At 4.30 PM, she came to see me from Pto pta and I met a guy from Toronto eating lunch there as well and while chatting with him, bumped into a woman from Bonao who was pretty with fake blond curls and so I introduced him to the young Canadian who looked bewitched by her but did not have the language. I have nothing against Sosua. Quite the contrary: unlike some I actually love the place ever since I went there first time in 2011 but Sosua to me has another side, the epicurean side that rarely gets highlighted.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1550873]The hot dog reference was a playful dig but you didn't think it was funny. That was a long ass reply, thanks."Over worked love tool?" I don't think I've ever in my life described another mans dick or called another man classy, but to each his own.[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo You are killing me. Man I love this forum

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1550875]Ah, that's really sad!

But you'll never find Oakie there.

He's down on the strip where the action is, partying hard.[/QUOTE]Yes Sir I stand corrected!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1550861]I think they are probably expat alcoholics who go there for drinks and conversation and don't need to go to the large and noisy pussy bars.

I can only assume you hot shots get the same treatment from big Joe the bouncer, and Eddie the waiter at Rhumba's, like I do when they move chicas off the good table for me when I walk in.

LOL

Seriously, though, there's lots of quiet bars where I live. I don't go half way around the world and spend good money to sit in one.

For me there's got to be action, and a constant parade of new faces. But conversation is part of my game, and if I'm in Rhumba, or D'Latin I only have to take her across the street, to say, Mamaguena, where I can actually hear what she's trying to tell me.

Make what you want out of it.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1550873]The hot dog reference was a playful dig but you didn't think it was funny. That was a long ass reply, thanks."Over worked love tool?" I don't think I've ever in my life described another mans dick or called another man classy, but to each his own.[/QUOTE]Oh, well it went way over my head!

I try to use the military jargon so I can be understood, but sometimes I slip up. I should have said that when Tempoecorto got his boots on the ground he had no wingman, but decided to apply the safety on his weapon due to multiple earlier engagements with the enemy having overheated his feed mechanism and a fear that he might end up shooting blanks. I encouraged him to get back on board a lady of my acquaintance, but he opted for an early night at his billet. Next day he made an amphibious landing on the beach and wasted no time engaging with the enemy and related units, meeting with little resistance once the initial defences were breached and bikini bottoms removed from the mound of Venus, a heavily defended mine with thick vegetation and a boggy center. At this point he was easily able to achieve penetration. With the resistance conquered, he then made a strategic withdrawal, leaving the conquered breathing heavily.

By the way, I see you have upgraded Sosua from a "sewer" in an earlier assessment to "seedy" at this point in time. Nice job.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1550758]Nonsense! If someones purpose is to be associated with class they wouldn't be in Sosua at all.[/QUOTE]No class! Yep, that would be me!

Damn I wish I was classy just by eating a fucking hotdog!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1550969]No class! Yep, that would be me!

Damn I wish I was classy just by eating a fucking hotdog![/QUOTE]Some people would say that because we share great sex / friendship with the same woman that we are classless. But that's cool because we will have some great stories to tell over our next beers. It's about the adventure, and as long as you have mutual respect who cares about class. BTW I don't eat pork LOL.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1550858]Perhaps we can slice it down the center and wash it down with some Pilsner.[/QUOTE]Perhaps, but once you get a glance of my Wiener Schnitzel, I seriously doubt you will be willing to share it with anyone!:D

The Italian restaurant next to The British pub is an excellent Italian restaurant I found out last night. I went there around 9.30 PM, after dropping off a female on the way back to Pto Pta. I had bruschetta with tomato, basil and mozzarella as starters, a leafy salad with pungent arugula, tomato, onion and romaine lettuce and to top off, a plate of home made tagliatelle in a cream sauce with mushrooms and Italian sausage, washed down with mezzo litro de vino rosso. I finished it with an espresso which again was very good. The bill was 1070 pesos which might be considered high by local standard for a single meal but to me, it was worth it outside of flying to Italy. Speaking of it, the Schnitzel meal at the Austrian place the night before was priced similarly. Marco the owner, is from Bologna, nice guy. He even lent me his glasses as I forgot them at my place. I would have tried the fish or the meat as the main course but did not have room anymore. Heartily recommend the place to anyone who enjoys Italian food. I thought it is way better than elefante rosso which is located almost across. I shared the table (because I was eating alone at a place that could sit six) with a Greek guy and a Danish woman and the conversation was excellent. Thoroughly enjoyed the solo night as I chomped on my cigar (180 pesos) bought at the German cigar store on my way out of town for the night. As I was strolling along back to my car. Several women wanted to strike conversation. I thought one was nice with a sense of humor and after exchanging several sentences, she concluded I was a " Chileno". Made me crack up, a dark skinned Indian for a (mostly white) Chilean! The schools are doing a good job.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1550983]Perhaps, but once you get a glance of my Wiener Schnitzel, I seriously doubt you will be willing to share it with anyone!:D[/QUOTE]I am not that much of a foodie, but I did have an excellent German sausage with curry sauce and French bread last night at Hotel Don Andres restaurant.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549484]WRX2005, I will eat my words and respond because I feel your post makes some valid points and deserves a response.[/quote]Thanks for responding.

[quote]You want to dissect every comment I post that you don't agree with, you can't seem to understand why I advise what I advise, and you seem to be surprised when I reply with what appears to you as sarcasm after you continually dissect my posts.[/quote]I see you don't have a clear understanding on my end. When I 1st responded to you, I asked you a few specific questions. At that point I wasnt dissecting your post. And I don't recall claiming I disagreed with you. When did you start thinking that I disagreed with you? I was asking for more feedback, to get more understanding from you. How could I agree or diasgree if I don't know exactly what you mean? When I mentioned sarcasm, your comment about letting others be targets, presupposes a negative characteristic you assigned to those who walk around with those items. It sure wasnt meant to be a positive.

This is how it went down, I asked you:

"1) Exactly what do you mean by not rubbing your so called wealth in their faces? When you mentioned you don't dress fancy, don't wear expensive watches, don't use expensive phones, don't wear big gold chains, don't use your ipad outside of your hotel, and don't pay for beers with $2000 peso notes. 2) Were those supposed to be examples of how you don't rub wealth "in their faces"? 3) If so, what is your reasoning for deciding you should do that? 4) Is this from preconceived ideas of how you feel enough dominicans think / feel? Or did you have some sort of experience to make you feel the need to make those adjustments? Or was it from advice you received from friends or forums like this? What is it?"

Thats 4 specific questions. Now when you responded to me, you didn't quote me so at 1st I didn't know you were talking to me. 2ndly, you did not give me the feedback I asked. My 1st question is asking what do you mean by rubbing wealth in ones face? You didn't give me an answer to that question. To be sure, I asked if the examples you gave were examples of rubbing wealth in ones face? Again no answer. I asked, if so what was your reasoning for deciding to do that, again no answer? I asked if you have preconceived ideas of how enough dominicans think or feel? Again no answer. I asked if it came from advice from friends or forums like this? Again no answer. What you did give me, was you off on a tangent telling me about a waitress looking at your iphone, and your ex wife and brother in law. And then finishing up by telling me this is how you operate. I read that info, and I'm like, what the hell does that have to do with rubbing ones wealth in ones face, and your perception of how enough dominicans think or feel about you having an ipad, iphone or paying with a $2000 note. You couldn't grasp the specifics of what I was asking you?

Your response :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1548606&viewfull=1#post1548606[/url]

So here we are now, you claiming I was dissecting your posts and disagreeing with you. Since you didn't give me the feedback I asked from the very beginning, you left me no choice but to respond to what you posted even though it didn't have jack to do with what I asked. I even advised you later that you didn't answer what I initially asked, to show you how we got off track. And you didn't even pick that up. You seemed to take it all as an attack. Whereas we wouldn't even be here if you would have read the questions the way I wrote it, and just responded to them. It seems you were on the defensive from the very beginning. So before you start down the wrong path of thinking I have something against you or your posts, try to re evaluate what you thought and felt when you read my 1st response to you. And why you couldn't or wouldn't answer what I asked? What really happened there?

And for the record, I enjoyed much of what you posted earlier even though I may not have emphasized it. I have posted a lot of trip report info myself, and it doesn't always garner acknowledgement. But I do know people are reading what we all post. So if you think I don't equally appreciate your input, you need to know you would be mistaken. Message boards is a venue where it's easy to be misunderstood. And as you can see, even asking for feedback it can be taken as an attack and a negative, rather than an attempt to engage someone in discussing / debating / understanding differing perspectives.

I will address the rest in a separate post.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549484]My advice and perspective is based on my experiences, things I have seen, and common sense that I have acquired over the years. I don't know what other perspective I can give you or anyone else besides what I have seen and experienced.[/quote]The perspective I was asking of you was how you think enough dominicans feel and think in regards to yourself or other mongers. In this case, the belief that exposing an iphone, ipad or paying with a $2000 note means one is rubbing their wealth in dominicans faces. What is your perspective on how dominicans generally think or feel or how are they affected by wealth being rubbed in their faces? Thats the perspective you can give. That is one of the questions I asked. When you advised people that they should use their gadgets etc (rub wealth in their faces) only when they feel comfortable, that suggests that the original need for caution or concern is brought about by ones own insecurity. And your need to make that adjustment (hiding or not bring those things) and then advise others to do the same is a personal issue, which doesn't necessarily mean dominicans are an intrinsic threat to you / mongers just because they don't have those things.

Thats why I brought out that many folks new or vets are obviously quite comfortable having those things out in public, and they may not have a problem paying for a beer with a $2000 note. So overall I wanted to know what your belief is about how dominicans feel or think when they see mongers with those items out in public or paying for a beer with a $2000 note. Those answers would be an interesting look. But it could expose something you don't want to reveal, which may be why you didn't answer the question in the 1st place, and turned most of my input into nothing more than dissection and disagreement.

[QUOTE=Phuquer;1549484]Yet when Mr. E posted that he gives the cashier his wallet and tells her to take what he owes her you make no comment.[/quote]If I had a question, I would have asked for more feedback. I did not have a question. Besides what do I need to comment on? I already knew who would respond and the manner in which they would do it.

[quote]I appreciate your posts. I feel they are intelligent, well written, and usually full of information.[/quote]Likewise I appreciate yours as well. I wish you would lighten up a little bit just because I might ask you to explain something you wrote. Personally, I appreciate those who ask me to explain a perspective, rather than assuming wrongly, and not wanting or caring if they get it right. If you've been following this forum, you know the individuals I have had to deal with in that regard.

[quote]I don't know what you have against my posts, but believe me, all I am trying to do is help the new guys.[/quote]And I guess you'll never know, because I do not have anything against your posts. A differing perspective or giving my take on your perspective does not mean I have anything against your posts.

[quote]Perhaps you should be encouraging that instead of attacking it.[/QUOTE]I am encouraging folks to exercise better reading comprehension before rushing to judgment or misunderstanding. And also not to take asking for more feedback as an attack. What good is my encouragement if some folks won't embrace it? Moreover, if they see my encouragement for better communications and understanding as nothing more than an attack, what more can I do? It takes at least two to make it work. I will try to handle my end.

I want to post a trip report, but I'm sure it will get buried by all these childless arguments.

Perhaps another day; the Sosua "reports" thread once again goes to shit.

Hello fellow mongers,

I'm looking to book a trip to the DR for May 29 for my graduation / birthday gift to myself LOL I have read a lot of post but still need help with a few questions 1 I know no Spanish what so ever how can I quickly learn some and is it nessesary or should I just rely on Google translate and 2 a lot of the pic I see of are slim chicks does Sosua have thick chicks when I say thick I mean giant thighs and giant asses LOL or should I look into going somewhere else any advice is appreciated and thanks also any body else a trip for that time let me know so we can link up.

I'm willing to bet there are many guys here who have taken advantage of the Global Online Enrollment System (GOES ). If not here is some info for ya. As a member you are entitled to use the DIY Global Entry kiosks in the customs area. While most folks after an international flight are gathering on the long lines in customs, a GE member can go straight to one of the short lines where they have several kiosks. You scan your passport, get a photo snapped and verify your fingerprints instantly. In addition, you don't have to fill out the PAPER declaration form that they give you on the plane when returning from an international flight. That declaration info is completed on the kiosk machine. Most major airports participate in the program. The cost is $100 and your enrollment is good for 5yrs.

In addition, a member of Global Entry, also entitles you to participate in the TSA pre-screening program. If you are a GE member you may not have to go for an interview at the TSA PS office, and won't have to pay any additional money. The $100 you paid for the GOES system covers you for the TSA pre screen. What is TSA pre-screen? You ever go to your airport in the states, and in the departure area you see some individuals directed to a very short line? Maybe you were randomly selected to go. It may have been the TSA pre-screen line. There, you don't have to remove shoes, your laptop from your bag, light jackets / outerwear, or belt. There may be other things they may allow to stay on your person. But the real benefit is you won't be on those long ass lines shuffling along with everybody else, especially behind a family with a bunch of children and a stroller. Your TSA PS line is much much shorter.

This benefit can take some stress off of someone who might be running late for their flight out. Or just a relief not to have to shuffle a few feet at a time until you finally get to be screened. And coming home from a flight. Not to be on a long ass line with multiple flights arriving at the same time? I can do without that. I currently have two international flights I booked with United. I was able to modify both itineraries and add my GE member number in the KNOWN

TRAVELER NUMBER field. Now, when I go to the airport, my boarding pass should have TSA approved. Also, some folks may be able to have their boarding passes on their devices where it can be scanned at the gate.

[quote]Q. If I have already been approved for Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, or if I already have a KTN, do I need to apply for the TSA Pre&10003; ™ application program?

A. Individuals who already have a KTN, including USA citizens who are members of Global Entry, NEXUS, or SENTRI and Canadian citizen members of NEXUS, need not enroll in the TSA Pre&10003; ™ application program.[/QUOTE]When I went to my interview at the GOES office at the airport, they scanned my passport, recorded my DL, and asked me questions about any criminal background. Took a photo, took fingerprints and sent me on my way. Took 10 minutes. My online application already had me pre approved. The interview was just confirming the right person was applying. I recommend going on a Saturday. The terminal was virtually empty.

Any and all questions the answers may be obtained from both websites. The Global Entry and TSA pre screen websites. Anything particular ask me here or PM me.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1551204]I want to post a trip report, but I'm sure it will get buried by all these childless arguments.

Perhaps another day; the Sosua "reports" thread once again goes to shit.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't worry about that trip report. Much of the banter here from time to time, including from you is not a trip report. Now what I am interested in is, did you open a Charles Schwab account like you said you were going to do? If so where did you go or how did you go about enrolling? The research I did gave me the impression Charles Schwab was mostly an investment firm not like a regular bank. I was thinking of TD Bank because they don't charge fees on foreign ATM withdrawals, but recall they require you to maintain a minimum balance of $2500. I could do it, but would rather not tie up that much to make it happen.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1551221]I'm willing to bet there are many guys here who have taken advantage of the Global Online Enrollment System (GOES ). If not here is some info for ya. As a member you are entitled to use the DIY Global Entry kiosks in the customs area. While most folks after an international flight are gathering on the long lines in customs, a GE member can go straight to one of the short lines where they have several kiosks. You scan your passport, get a photo snapped and verify your fingerprints instantly. In addition, you don't have to fill out the PAPER declaration form that they give you on the plane when returning from an international flight. That declaration info is completed on the kiosk machine. Most major airports participate in the program. The cost is $100 and your enrollment is good for 5yrs.

In addition, a member of Global Entry, also entitles you to participate in the TSA pre-screening program. If you are a GE member you may not have to go for an interview at the TSA PS office, and won't have to pay any additional money. The $100 you paid for the GOES system covers you for the TSA pre screen. What is TSA pre-screen? You ever go to your airport in the states, and in the departure area you see some individuals directed to a very short line? Maybe you were randomly selected to go. It may have been the TSA pre-screen line. There, you don't have to remove shoes, your laptop from your bag, light jackets / outerwear, or belt. There may be other things they may allow to stay on your person. But the real benefit is you won't be on those long ass lines shuffling along with everybody else, especially behind a family with a bunch of children and a stroller. Your TSA PS line is much much shorter.

This benefit can take some stress off of someone who might be running late for their flight out. Or just a relief not to have to shuffle a few feet at a time until you finally get to be screened. And coming home from a flight. Not to be on a long ass line with multiple flights arriving at the same time? I can do without that. I currently have two international flights I booked with United. I was able to modify both itineraries and add my GE member number in the KNOWN

TRAVELER NUMBER field. Now, when I go to the airport, my boarding pass should have TSA approved. Also, some folks may be able to have their boarding passes on their devices where it can be scanned at the gate.

When I went to my interview at the GOES office at the airport, they scanned my passport, recorded my DL, and asked me questions about any criminal background. Took a photo, took fingerprints and sent me on my way. Took 10 minutes. My online application already had me pre approved. The interview was just confirming the right person was applying. I recommend going on a Saturday. The terminal was virtually empty.

Any and all questions the answers may be obtained from both websites. The Global Entry and TSA pre screen websites. Anything particular ask me here or PM me.[/QUOTE]As a SENTRI holder for over three years I was automatically enrolled in Global Entry and already had a GOES number. Besides all of the above benefits, you also don't have to wait in line with everyone waiting to have their declaration forms checked. As an example of how much time is saved by having Global Entry, last month I arrived from Puerto Plata at JFK. They had a separate line which was empty directing Global Entry members to the kiosks. Upon issuance of the ticket and after getting my luggage, there was a long line of people waiting to get their declaration forms checked. To the left was a sign for Global Entry members and I was waved thru instead of having to wait in line 10 minutes. Upon transferring to Terminal 5 at JFK for my return flight there was a long line to go thru security. I went to the PSA line which was empty at the time and went thru without waiting and taking my off my shoes, belt, laptop etc. It took my buddy who was on the same flight legs with me 45 minutes to get thru security. I feel the biggest benefit of Global Entry is the TSA pre-screen. It sounds as though getting Global Entry is lot easier to get than SENTRI where you have to bring in your tax returns and sit through a 45 minute interview being asked personal questions.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1551204]I want to post a trip report, but I'm sure it will get buried by all these childless arguments.

Perhaps another day; the Sosua "reports" thread once again goes to shit.[/QUOTE]If you write a trip report people will read it if it is interesting.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1551224]I was thinking of TD Bank because they don't charge fees on foreign ATM withdrawals, but recall they require you to maintain a minimum balance of $2500. I could do it, but would rather not tie up that much to make it happen.[/QUOTE]Really?

What exactly could you do with $2500 if it was not "tied up" in a non-interest bearing checking acct?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1551258]If you write a trip report people will read it if it is interesting.[/QUOTE]I think Tomjackin and John long post the best trip reports with pictures on ISG. Girls nowadays don't take pictures as freely as they did years ago. I remember in 2007 when girls would line up and beg for you to take their pictures.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1551252]As a SENTRI holder for over three years I was automatically enrolled in Global Entry and already had a GOES number. Besides all of the above benefits, you also don't have to wait in line with everyone waiting to have their declaration forms checked. As an example of how much time is saved by having Global Entry, last month I arrived from Puerto Plata at JFK. They had a separate line which was empty directing Global Entry members to the kiosks. Upon issuance of the ticket and after getting my luggage, there was a long line of people waiting to get their declaration forms checked. To the left was a sign for Global Entry members and I was waved thru instead of having to wait in line 10 minutes. Upon transferring to Terminal 5 at JFK for my return flight there was a long line to go thru security. I went to the PSA line which was empty at the time and went thru without waiting and taking my off my shoes, belt, laptop etc. It took my buddy who was on the same flight legs with me 45 minutes to get thru security. I feel the biggest benefit of Global Entry is the TSA pre-screen. It sounds as though getting Global Entry is lot easier to get than SENTRI where you have to bring in your tax returns and sit through a 45 minute interview being asked personal questions.[/QUOTE]You just jogged my memory. I do recall at JFK seeing a separate line for Global Entry members next to where every one else stands on line to drop off their declaration forms. And I also recall how long and spread out the luggage and people filled lines were just trying to get to the 2 agents accepting forms. So that's three main areas where Global Entry can help save time and inconvenience when returning or leaving. I guess the only draw back is when you are traveling with others who arent members. You still have to wait for them if you are traveling together. But that is not a problem. At least I'm free to use the restroom and make phone calls while I'm waiting for them. Thanks for sharing that info.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1551204]I want to post a trip report, but I'm sure it will get buried by all these childless arguments.

Perhaps another day; the Sosua "reports" thread once again goes to shit.[/QUOTE]Pimp don't keep your boy and the rest of the monger gents hanging. Coolie been on the low waiting to read your report. I know its going to be classic as usual. If you must post your report in the grown ass monger section (Mr. Gogos thread)

BTW special shout-out to Oakie. Good to see you back doing your thing. Fran you're actually on the money when it comes to threesomes. Mr. E do you ever stop travelling. I mean seriously you're everywhere LOL. And Mr. Gogo I read your report in the Philippines and I'm kicking myself everyday for not rolling with you. I'm glad you had a good time though.

Peace,

CH

[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1551259]Really?

What exactly could you do with $2500 if it was not "tied up" in a non-interest bearing checking acct?[/QUOTE]Use it towards my expenses while on vacation in the DR. Apartment rental, car rental, food, utilities, towards the purchase of a car in the DR, towards the purchase of more flights, towards my real estate taxes in the states, towards my car insurance in the states. Now if I can have a bank offer no fees for using ATM's abroad with a minimal balance to have an account, thats what I would shoot for.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1551374]Now if I can have a bank offer no fees for using ATM's abroad with a minimal balance to have an account, thats what I would shoot for.[/QUOTE]No entiendo. $2500 is a minimal balance but no matter, enjoy.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1551374]Use it towards my expenses while on vacation in the DR. Apartment rental, car rental, food, utilities, towards the purchase of a car in the DR, towards the purchase of more flights, towards my real estate taxes in the states, towards my car insurance in the states. Now if I can have a bank offer no fees for using ATM's abroad with a minimal balance to have an account, thats what I would shoot for.[/QUOTE]I did with ScotiaBank, no fees for withdrawals. A checking account is a different matter, expensive to use

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1551416]No entiendo. $2500 is a minimal balance but no matter, enjoy.[/QUOTE]$2500 is the minimal balance TD bank requires. I want the lowest minimum balance I can find. No minimum required would be ideal.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1551421]I did with ScotiaBank, no fees for withdrawals. A checking account is a different matter, expensive to use[/QUOTE]That is an option. Question though. If I am correct you live in the DR fulltime? Do you have funds directly deposited to your SB account from outside the country? Or do you make all of the deposits into your SB account yourself?

First off, it is a quite a process to obtain the checking account.

First, you have to open up an Individual Brokerage account.

Next you have to verify who you are to open the High Yield Investor Checking account. I did this by bringing two forms of I'd to their San Diego office.

Then you have to transfer funds or deposit into the Individual Brokerage account.

Then you transfer funds into the Checking Account. At that point Charles will send out the debit card and checks for the checking account.

Activate the debit card.

Also, let CS know your travel plans or else the card will be useless.

I used the card twice in Sosua and I understand the ATM fees from the banks will be reimbursed at the end of the month.

It is quite a process, but I'm happy with CS already.

The following is posted on the CS web site:

There are no catches. The Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking Account® is a variable rate checking account and its rate will fluctuate with market conditions. With this account you get:

• No minimum balance requirements

• No monthly service charges

• No ATM fees.

• Free standard checks and a Visa® Platinum debit card

• Free online bill pay on Schwab. Com and Schwab Mobile

• Competitive interest rate

• FDIC Insurance up to $250, 000

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1551373]Pimp don't keep your boy and the rest of the monger gents hanging. Coolie been on the low waiting to read your report. I know its going to be classic as usual. If you must post your report in the grown ass monger section (Mr. Gogos thread)

BTW special shout-out to Oakie. Good to see you back doing your thing. Fran you're actually on the money when it comes to threesomes. Mr. E do you ever stop travelling. I mean seriously you're everywhere LOL. And Mr. Gogo I read your report in the Philippines and I'm kicking myself everyday for not rolling with you. I'm glad you had a good time though.

Peace,

CH[/QUOTE]Oh shit, it's Coolie.

I was hoping you'd retired. It got so every chica I laid, I figured you'd been there before me. (Even LP)

What's happening?

I got my account opened, but it is a pain in the ass to fund it. I tried using the app as a test, to depost a $50.00 rewards check from Citibamk. So far it's taken 7 days and the fucker is not cleared yet. Transferring money in from a linked checking account seems to be about the quickest and that still runs 5 days to completely clear. Next I'm going to try taking cash to a Schwab office and see if I can deposit that into the brokerage account, then transfer it to checking. It took a good month to get it all set up.

There is no minimum balance required. The $2500.00 minimum statement is wrong. It takes Wells Fargo one day to clear a much larger check deposited with the app. Why the fuck can't Chuck do that. It's going to take me three months just to fully fund the account so I can use it twice during the week.

After having endured this slow toture I hope it's worth it.

Good thorough info. Perhaps a bit much just to get started. I know they don't have ATM fees, but was there any form of conversion fee involved in any of your ATM transactions?

[QUOTE=Zonamonger; 1551692]I got my account opened, but it is a pain in the ass to fund it. I tried using the app as a test, to depost a $50. 00 rewards check from Citibamk. So far it's taken 7 days and the fucker is not cleared yet. Transferring money in from a linked checking account seems to be about the quickest and that still runs 5 days to completely clear. Next I'm going to try taking cash to a Schwab office and see if I can deposit that into the brokerage account, then transfer it to checking. It took a good month to get it all set up.

There is no minimum balance required. The $2500. 00 minimum statement is wrong. It takes Wells Fargo one day to clear a much larger check deposited with the app. Why the fuck can't Chuck do that. It's going to take me three months just to fully fund the account so I can use it twice during the week.

After having endured this slow toture I hope it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input as well. All of that effort to establish both accounts and then fund them seems to be a hassle. I want to keep it simple. And my need is mostly so I can avoid ATM fees like I was accustomed to when I used my Bank of America debit card with a SB ATM. BTW, the $2500 minimum we were talking about applied to TD Bank, not CS. I just came from TD Bank, and I inquired about their checking account where they will waive all ATM fees. Found out, they will waive the ATM fees, but still charge 1% as a conversion fee (for every foreign ATM withdrawal ). Also a $2500 minimum balance must be maintained in order to have the ATM fees waived. The ATM fees are reimbursed at the end of the month, just like CS.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1551421]I did with ScotiaBank, no fees for withdrawals. A checking account is a different matter, expensive to use[/QUOTE]Your suggestion is what I may aim for. Just open a simple savings account with Scotia Bank. Fund it myself by bringing down enough cash to deposit in the account. Keep adding to the account in case I have a large purchase down the road. But it's mainly so I do not keep or leave a lot of cash in my spot. The only thing that I need to research now, is can I have a portion of my paycheck or pension checks routed directly to SB and what the cost is if any? Also how having a foreign account may affect me back in the states, especially with the IRS?

I can confirm everything that Zonamonger has reported. It does take 5 business days to transfer money into the checking account from another bank. No reason why because the money is deducted from the transferring account right away. I signed up online so although it took a while to process it was hassle free. Also you do not need to fund the investment account only the checking account for the money you want to spend.

One other issue I have is at least in Brazil which is a known heavy fraud location. Even though I put a travel notice on the account the card will never work and is always declined the first time I try to use it. I have to call (from Brazil) and then they will remove the hold so the card will work. Sometimes it will last the whole time and sometimes I have to call a second time usually after I have made a large purchase. I only transfer into the account what I plan to spend on the trip usually $3k-$4k. I do use the card for everything charging at stores as well as restaurants as well as using it for cash at ATMs.

I do not know if the same high security controls will be accessed in the DR as I haven't used the card there. I do know that the ATM card is a Visa and Schwab tells me it is Visa who is enforcing the strict use policy in Brazil, however my other Visa cards do not have this same problem. I always carry cash. 2 ATM cards and 2 Credit cards with travel notices just in case. I have a house in Sao Paulo so my expenses are sometimes larger than the occasional monger.

The good news is that they are completely truthful when they say there are NO fees. There are NO fees. No conversion fees, no other bank ATM fees and no international fees. Nada no fees period and you get the current daily bank rate for conversion and they do reimburse any fees you are charged by other banks at the end of the month.

[QUOTE=Zonamonger; 1551692]I got my account opened, but it is a pain in the ass to fund it. I tried using the app as a test, to depost a $50. 00 rewards check from Citibamk. So far it's taken 7 days and the fucker is not cleared yet. Transferring money in from a linked checking account seems to be about the quickest and that still runs 5 days to completely clear. Next I'm going to try taking cash to a Schwab office and see if I can deposit that into the brokerage account, then transfer it to checking. It took a good month to get it all set up.

There is no minimum balance required. The $2500. 00 minimum statement is wrong. It takes Wells Fargo one day to clear a much larger check deposited with the app. Why the fuck can't Chuck do that. It's going to take me three months just to fully fund the account so I can use it twice during the week.

After having endured this slow toture I hope it's worth it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Houston Player;1551961]I can confirm everything that Zonamonger has reported. It does take 5 business days to transfer money into the checking account from another bank. No reason why because the money is deducted from the transferring account right away. I signed up online so although it took a while to process it was hassle free. Also you do not need to fund the investment account only the checking account for the money you want to spend.[/quote]Signed up online? No need to fund the IA? Good info to know in case I change my mind. BTW how long did everything take to get the accounts setup for you to use them?

[quote]One other issue I have is at least in Brazil which is a known heavy fraud location. Even though I put a travel notice on the account the card will never work and is always declined the first time I try to use it. I have to call (from Brazil) and then they will remove the hold so the card will work. Sometimes it will last the whole time and sometimes I have to call a second time usually after I have made a large purchase. I only transfer into the account what I plan to spend on the trip usually $3k-$4k. I do use the card for everything charging at stores as well as restaurants as well as using it for cash at ATMs.

I do not know if the same high security controls will be accessed in the DR as I haven't used the card there. I do know that the ATM card is a Visa and Schwab tells me it is Visa who is enforcing the strict use policy in Brazil, however my other Visa cards do not have this same problem. I always carry cash. 2 ATM cards and 2 Credit cards with travel notices just in case. I have a house in Sao Paulo so my expenses are sometimes larger than the occasional monger.[/QUOTE]Very interesting!

[quote]The good news is that they are completely truthful when they say there are NO fees. There are NO fees. No conversion fees, no other bank ATM fees and no international fees. Nada no fees period and you get the current daily bank rate for conversion and they do reimburse any fees you are charged by other banks at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]Thanks for answering two of my questions in regards to no conversion fees, and getting the current daily bank rate for conversions. You just pushed CS back in the mix for further consideration.

Logistics and things:

Flight:

Flight was out of SAN to POP on AA for $750 and change. Flights were pretty much on time and with no issues. I really hate the red eye flight, but I keep abusing this old depleted body for some reason.

Hotel:

For the fourth time, I stayed at Casa Cayena. Wilfried met me at the airport; as usual. Casa Cayena also has a group cash rate; which is $12 cheaper than the regular rate. The place is off the main road, kind of tucked in the back towards the semi private beach. The place is extremely quiet and well kept. Wilfried is now offering breakfast and dinner included in the room rate. I only ate breakfast there twice, but I did have dinner on four nights. The Chicken Cordon Bleu was excellent!

Room security was never an issue. I left out my laptop and surface pad daily without any issuers. I think this is the only hotel where I hug the housekeepers. The entire staff is professional and overall outstanding. I abused the pool almost every evening. I will continue to stay there.

Money:

I got lazy and just exchanged money at the hotel, the rate was 42+ change. The rest of the time I abused the ATM machines and vice-versa.

Cell Phone:

I went back to Orange and my SIM card was still up and running. I put 400 pesos of minutes on the card, which was plenty enough.

Food:

Besides eating at Casa Cayena, I ate at several spots. Big D's at the beach twice, I think he has the best chicken in town and they delivered to Herman's place. Someone turned me onto the ribs at the Scandinavian beach place on the beach. They were the best ribs I've ever had in Sosua! I ate at Movida twice, great pasta! I also ate at a several food tray places, like at Rumba's and a couple down the road; all were very good. Ollie's is one of my favorite places, but it was closed the entire time.

There is a new pizza place on the corner, across from the small mercado, called New York Pizza. Coming off the beach one day, I gave the place a try. I expected a thin sliced pizza, but that was not the case. I expected a tasty sliced pizza, but that was not the case either. Try it for yourself, maybe you will have better luck than I did; I will not return.

Day 1 / Friday.

After stopping at Orange, I headed to the small mercado to stock up on water and orange juice. As I was leaving, I opened the door and that's went I saw the "Girl from hell," Patricia! Fuck me to tears, without all the knifes, she has returned! As soon as she saw me, she laid a lip lock on my tired ass and said,"Vamos el hotel." Oh hell no, especially when I was tired from the red eye flight and lacked the mental capacity to protect my life. I told her I would see her later, but did not promise a hotel romp; I know better.

Wanted to take a nap, but as I walked by the bar in Casa Cayena I saw a cutie and she offered up a massage and other fun services; but I was tired and passed. I got in the room and thought,"Dude, you need a nice massage and a nice release for the Little Sailor; get back to the bar dammit!" I went back to the bar and explained that I was confused earlier and would love to have her services. I told her to give me 20 minutes to shower and stuff, and she knocked on the door exactly 20 minutes later. Her massage was good, but her cock sucking skills were fantastic; both I and the Little Sailor were happy campers! Paid her, closed the door, and took that much needed nap.

Later in the evening, I headed to Rumba's. Juan greeted me with bear hugs and kisses; great dude! I sat at the doorway so I could see the flow of traffic in and out of Rumba. I get a call from Me. E. Asking where I was. Turns out he was just across the street. He joined me in the doorway and neither of us could believe the amount of women that were flowing through Rumba. After a while, we move over to D'Latin. Mr. E. Needed a place to stay for the evening and I was not about to share my bed with him, so he started the interview process. After he received a few offers; BINGO, he had his girl, price, and place to stay!

I'm still sitting in D'Latin and I felt these great hands massaging my back and then I heard my name being called by the owner of the great hands. It was my favorite girl from Santo Domingo; we were both surprised to see each other. I guess I should have called her at least once in the past 8 months, but I'm a busy monger dammit! After a few drinks, she pointed to a hottie and she said that she wanted to be with her, in a really good way; who am I to argue. I asked her several times if she was sure that she wanted to be with the girl, and each time, she had a devilish smile, and said yes. Well, we blinked our eyes, and the girl left the club.

We went to Rumba to look for her, but no luck. My SD girl went off looking for her, but no luck. Then I went off looking for her, but no luck. So feeling defeated and depressed, we just sat at the first table when you enter Rumba. After about 10-15 minutes, the hottie came walking through Rumba's doors. I jumped up, grabbed the girl, and brought her over to our table. After discussing prices and such, the girl was ready for the main event. Then, fucking then, my girl whispers that she wanted the girl for me, and not for her. Are you fucking kidding me? I gave the hottie some pesos for wasting her time and sent her off. Then, I went off on my SD girl. Basically I said,"Fuck you! I will no longer play your reindeer games!" I grabbed my dignity, walked out, and went back to the hotel. Hell, I was too tired to play with two anyway.

Day 2 / Saturday.

After a quick stop at Big D's to place an order, I headed to Herman's place. After some great BBQ chicken, it was time to kick back and see who was walking the beach. Some new faces, others were familiar. My favorite Haitian happy hour team showed up and they looked thirsty; so a big beer was in order. Later I promised them they had my business later that afternoon, but they never left the tables; guess business was slow. A bit later, the first love of my Sosua life walked up, original beach girl (OBG) who I have not seen on over a year, jumped on me and planted at least a dozen wet kisses on my hung-over lips. I looked over, and my Haitian tag team looked nervous. I told OBG I had a date, but would like to see her tomorrow; date was set and the Haitian tag team was happy!

After a great Happy Hour, I met up with RonnyRon in the Cayena restaurant. It was his first time in Sosua and he was having a good time. I got a call from Mr. E. Asking my whereabouts, and I told him to get his happy ass over to Casa Cayena. We were all heading out of Cayena when a motoconcho came flying up and told me that someone found my cedula on the street. I thought,"No fucking way." But I do carry my passport card, so I checked and it was gone. I guess the previous night sucked for me. Another motoconcho came up and showed me the passport card; I rewarded him well.

We all hung at Rumba's and watched the talent flow through; Saturday night was just as good as Friday night. It wasn't long before my SD girl showed up and apologized for acting the fool the night before; I forgave her. We all rolled into D'Latin and Miguel was on track with flowing Kamikazes. Once again, Mr. E. Needed a place to stay for the evening so he started the interviewing process. I swear that dude could stay anywhere. As long as there is pussy nearby, I bet he could sleep in a fucking cardboard box! I left later with my SD girl for pool and rack operations.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1551975]I'm still sitting in D'Latin and I felt these great hands massaging my back and then I heard my name being called by the owner of the great hands. It was my favorite girl from Santo Domingo; we were both surprised to see each other. I guess I should have called her at least once in the past 8 months, but I'm a busy monger dammit! After a few drinks, she pointed to a hottie and she said that she wanted to be with her, in a really good way; who am I to argue. I asked her several times if she was sure that she wanted to be with the girl, and each time, she had a devilish smile, and said yes. Well, we blinked our eyes, and the girl left the club.

We went to Rumba to look for her, but no luck. My SD girl went off looking for her, but no luck. Then I went off looking for her, but no luck. So feeling defeated and depressed, we just sat at the first table when you enter Rumba. After about 10-15 minutes, the hottie came walking through Rumba's doors. I jumped up, grabbed the girl, and brought her over to our table. After discussing prices and such, the girl was ready for the main event. Then, fucking then, my girl whispers that she wanted the girl for me, and not for her. Are you fucking kidding me? I gave the hottie some pesos for wasting her time and sent her off. Then, I went off on my SD girl. Basically I said,"Fuck you! I will no longer play your reindeer games!" I grabbed my dignity, walked out, and went back to the hotel. Hell, I was too tired to play with two anyway.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Was the SD chica just fucking with you or trying to see how you would respond?

I opened a Charles Schwab account online. Did not require an initial deposit. I can add funds from my linked Bank of America account in a few days once my CS account is reviewed and approved. Even had 2 online chat sessions with 2 CS reps. I'm on my way.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1551975]Logistics and things:

Flight:

Flight was out of SAN to POP on AA for $750 and change. Flights were pretty much on time and with no issues. I really hate the red eye flight, but I keep abusing this old depleted body for some reason.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the report and the pics. How many days was the total trip?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1551975]Food:

Besides eating at Casa Cayena, I ate at several spots. Big D's at the beach twice, I think he has the best chicken in town and they delivered to Herman's place.

There is a new pizza place on the corner, across from the small mercado, called New York Pizza.[/QUOTE]I saw the NY pizza place. In fact had parked the car in front. Both Frannie and I. It is Frannie who told me the pizza was pricey and not particularly good. I am not a pizza guy so it would not matter but opposite the Schnitzel palace, there is a pizzeria. I went there on Saturday with a woman. The chef and at least one woman inside were Italians. The pizza which she ate turned out to be a nice thin crust pizza, by looking at it.

I was at Sosua beach yesterday, Sunday. I saw big D's place and finally got to taste his food. The mixed platter of pork ribs and chicken was good but at 480 pesos for a small portion, I thought it was pricey. Derek (that is big D) turned out to be nice guy!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1551975]We all hung at Rumba's and watched the talent flow through; Saturday night was just as good as Friday night. It wasn't long before my SD girl showed up and apologized for acting the fool the night before; I forgave her. We all rolled into D'Latin and Miguel was on track with flowing Kamikazes. Once again, Mr. E. Needed a place to stay for the evening so he started the interviewing process. I swear that dude could stay anywhere. As long as there is pussy nearby, I bet he could sleep in a fucking cardboard box! I left later with my SD girl for pool and rack operations.[/QUOTE]That one fingernail chica is a dead give away. Tom I am putting them on my todo list. Love the ass of the one with her hands on her hips in the first picture

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1552002]Appreciate the report and the pics. How many days was the total trip?[/QUOTE]Only 7 nights; 1 or 2 more nights than I can usually handle.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1551993]Thanks for the great report. Was the SD chica just fucking with you or trying to see how you would respond?[/QUOTE]To be honest, I'm not sure what she was thinking. My best guess is that once the deal was in place, she got cold feet and wanted to bail on the lesbian thing.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1552092]Only 7 nights; 1 or 2 more nights than I can usually handle.[/QUOTE]Why is that? Burned out from fucking / drinking? Or just tired of Sosua overall? Or all of the above?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1552202]Why is that? Burned out from fucking / drinking? Or just tired of Sosua overall? Or all of the above?[/QUOTE]You got to realize that Tomjackin is like right under Pooter as far as seniority goes in this thread. After 69 years of being the big dog that all the little dogs want to run with, you would be burned out too. Hehehe

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552234]You got to realize that Tomjackin is like right under Pooter as far as seniority goes in this thread. After 69 years of being the big dog that all the little dogs want to run with, you would be burned out too. Hehehe[/QUOTE]69 Damn! And handling 2 thoroughbreds. So there is life after 65! Respect!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1552092]Only 7 nights; 1 or 2 more nights than I can usually handle.

To be honest, I'm not sure what she was thinking. My best guess is that once the deal was in place, she got cold feet and wanted to bail on the lesbian thing.[/QUOTE]Hard to tell. There may have been some discussion behind the scenes by the two chicas in which the threesome was nixed. In any case, without knowing the terms of the threesome that were discussed at the time the payment was agreed, it is hard to say, but these things are difficult to negotiate. Here is why:

If you are having regular guy / girl sex, the standard procedure is probably suck and fuck, that is bareback blow job as a prelude to sex with a condom. However some girls might not do the bareback blowjob, though in practice they usually don't mind too much if you perform bareback oral on their clits (go figure). Now once you start to deviate from the base model sexual encounter, for example by adding kissing on the mouth, or wanting anal sex the probability of running into problems increases exponentially if these things have not been prenegotiated.

Now when it comes to threesomes involving a guy and two girls the standard default is the so-called "Happy Hour" or two for one, in which the guy has sex with each of two girls in turn, which would involve washing up and a change of condom between girls. Anything else involving genital contact between the two women is basically nonstandard and needs to be clearly negotiated with at least one of the chicas, and she may need to negotiate with the other.

You cannot simply assume that both girls will be equally happy with 69, scissoring, mutual masturbation, dildo play, or anything else. Just as the girls are concerned about catching some disease from a monger, they are even more concerned about catching something from "a puta" whose sexual history they do not know. As I have said before, she might be happy to receive oral sex from another woman, but find the idea of delivering oral sex to another woman quite repulsive. Or to be able to do the threesome, the woman may have to get drunk and then end up throwing up or passing out.

Of course in real life, in a highly-charged and passionate sexual encounter where people are very aroused, they may do things that they had not originally planned to do at all, and these spontaneous moments can be very hot, but it is best not to count on it.

I have had a few stupendous sexual encounters in threesomes when the chemistry has been right, but it can take some work to get it right.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552234]You got to realize that Tomjackin is like right under Pooter as far as seniority goes in this thread. After 69 years of being the big dog that all the little dogs want to run with, you would be burned out too. Hehehe[/QUOTE]I did not know how old he was. Interesting. But age doesn't have to be the main issue for many men up there in age. What a man can do physically depends on the individual. And what that individual is doing. Are they getting enough rest, are they fucking too much ( or losing their substance jerking off ) or drinking too much, or their overall health. My buddy (who is 69 and will be 70 in Sept) from the states is still playing racquetball, basketball and softball. He comes to Sosua and handles his business with the chicas, has a girlfriend and a wife back in the states. They both try to wear his ass out back home. I guess thats because the wife found out about the GF. So they seem to be in competition. His issue like many of us, is not an age thing, it's that too much abuse to ones body can burn you out. I have much respect for dudes older than me and still handling their business physically. Showing us that age is mostly a number, it doesn't necessarily define our physical status or well being. I've observed dudes in their 30's who were burned out physically. But it was mainly due to them abusing their bodies with over indulgence.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552234]You got to realize that Tomjackin is like right under Pooter as far as seniority goes in this thread. After 69 years of being the big dog that all the little dogs want to run with, you would be burned out too. Hehehe[/QUOTE]Just to make it clear, I may well be the oldest regular poster in the DR sections but I make no claim to any kind of seniority. I only started mongering regularly 10 years ago so there are guys around 30 here who have had far more paid pussy than me. And I only have experience of mongering in two countries, Latvia and the DR. And England, of course, but using SPs there was more akin to visiting the dentist for a check-up. A necessary procedure carried out in an emotionally sterile environment.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1552307]And I only have experience of mongering in two countries, Latvia and the DR. And England, of course, but using SPs there was more akin to visiting the dentist for a check-up. A necessary procedure carried out in an emotionally sterile environment.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have always got the impression that prostitution in England is as you describe from reading reports on this board and a couple of English sites. And of course they all have nicotine-stained fingers and reek of tobacco smoke, offer a cup of tea, and say "That will be two pound ten, luv."

Actually reading the reports of other countries on this board I get no desire whatsoever to try mongering anywhere else other than the DR. In most countries it sounds terrible, and even in popular destinations like Thailand and Colombia, I don't get much sense that the girls are as much fun to be with as the natives of Hispaniola.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552234]You got to realize that Tomjackin is like right under Pooter as far as seniority goes in this thread. After 69 years of being the big dog that all the little dogs want to run with, you would be burned out too. Hehehe[/QUOTE]You sorry bastard! 69 years? I'll have you know that I'm in my mid 50s.

But after 37 years on mongering, I guess I do look older.:(

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1552357]You sorry bastard! 69 years? I'll have you know that I'm in my mid 50s.

But after 37 years on mongering, I guess I do look older.[/QUOTE]LOL. That shit was funny if I do say so myself.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1552354]Yes, I have always got the impression that prostitution in England is as you describe from reading reports on this board and a couple of English sites. And of course they all have nicotine-stained fingers and reek of tobacco smoke, offer a cup of tea, and say "That will be two pound ten, luv."

Actually reading the reports of other countries on this board I get no desire whatsoever to try mongering anywhere else other than the DR. In most countries it sounds terrible, and even in popular destinations like Thailand and Colombia, I don't get much sense that the girls are as much fun to be with as the natives of Hispaniola.[/QUOTE]Frannie, I've been to Colombia five times and prefer the DR over it, however Thailand is a totally different animal and if it wasn't so far away travel wise it would be me my preference over the DR. If you have the time and money the country will blow you away. I spent a month travelling all over the place and had loads of fun with the girls. There were guys there travelling around the country with two to three women at a time. You can actually have a 'harem" there for not a lot of money. The bath houses and blow job bars in Bangkok are a trip. Also very inexpensive luxury hotels and great food everywhere. No language problems either as most people speak English. In fact I thinking of going back and hitting Cambodia next time before returning to the DR but getting there travel wise is excruciating.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1552357]You sorry bastard! 69 years? I'll have you know that I'm in my mid 50s.

But after 37 years on mongering, I guess I do look older.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen it was my sincere pleasure to meet and hang out with you both. Tomjackin don't listen to Mr. E. You don't look that mature at all, but you might if you keep knocking 2 big booty Haitians down at one time every trip. Then again, it just might keep you looking good! I use to hit Rio twice a year and this older Russian Lady who was a Christian at my job knew I visited there often. Turns out she happen to see a documentary about Brazilian women. She grab me by the arm one day and told me about it. In the end she stated "My God that place would keep GOD young!" Thanks again. I left my computer adapter somewhere. As soon as I receive my new one, I will make a full trip report with photos!

RR

Decided to go to the DR last minute and was blown away by the price difference in pop 1000 dollars and sdq 400 so of course I took sdq and the savings paid for the rental car and all the gas for the trip. The drive sucks big time for me either way I go. When driving the partly dirt road from Santiago to Puerto Plata they are those people who hold the ropes up across the road so you will stop and give a donation I was lucky and all the people let the ropes down before I plowed into them. That is good for both of US. If money is not a issue with anyone travelling to the DR I suggest that you fly straight into PP for that is the best mongering place I have found in the DR but you can pick great pussy up all over the country.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1552260]Hard to tell. There may have been some discussion behind the scenes by the two chicas in which the threesome was nixed. In any case, without knowing the terms of the threesome that were discussed at the time the payment was agreed, it is hard to say, but these things are difficult to negotiate. Here is why:

If you are having regular guy / girl sex, the standard procedure is probably suck and fuck, that is bareback blow job as a prelude to sex with a condom. However some girls might not do the bareback blowjob, though in practice they usually don't mind too much if you perform bareback oral on their clits (go figure). Now once you start to deviate from the base model sexual encounter, for example by adding kissing on the mouth, or wanting anal sex the probability of running into problems increases exponentially if these things have not been prenegotiated...[/QUOTE]Yea you're right.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1552652]Decided to go to the DR last minute and was blown away by the price difference in pop 1000 dollars and sdq 400 so of course I took sdq and the savings paid for the rental car and all the gas for the trip. The drive sucks big time for me either way I go. When driving the partly dirt road from Santiago to Puerto Plata they are those people who hold the ropes up across the road so you will stop and give a donation I was lucky and all the people let the ropes down before I plowed into them. That is good for both of US. If money is not a issue with anyone travelling to the DR I suggest that you fly straight into PP for that is the best mongering place I have found in the DR but you can pick great pussy up all over the country.[/QUOTE]I must be going a different way than everybody else. Where is this dirt road that you mentioned? In countless drives I have never gone on a dirt road. Same when someone was saying last week that they took the toll road then went through the mountains. I have never been through any mountains and I took that same new toll road last week. A wingman of mine mentioned some mountains to get to go through Playa something or other one time but I wouldn't know that way if you held a gun to my head. From Santiago I go down right before you get to Navarette and make a right. That road takes me straight to Puerto Plata. I like driving and listening to music, but to break the drive up I make several stops on the way to see different chicks.

I just looked at a map. I have always taken DR5 going through Puerto Plata, but I see there is also DR25 which seems shorter and bypasses Puerto Plata. I know when I'm going down that hill from POP to Sosua there is a sign that points to the right and says Santiago, so I'm thinking that is DR25 and the route with the mountains and dirt road.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1552652]Decided to go to the DR last minute and was blown away by the price difference in pop 1000 dollars and sdq 400 so of course I took sdq[/QUOTE]What airport are you flying from? I booked a flight for this month (April) , out of Newark to POP with United. Price$492. I did it online last month. When I was researching dates, I found that a price could deviate up from $50 to hundreds of dollars more just by choosing the wrong combination of dates to travel. Also, I was told a few times that the best time to check for prices is on a Tuesday, because that is when many airlines compete with each other for business by lowering fares. Maybe your airline may not be in competition with another airline as far as adjusting prices, but you sure can play with your dates to see which combination gives you the lowest fare.

I used to be a loyal kayak user but recently I've switched over to this site [url]http://www.itasoftware.com[/url] To use it on your phone you have to download the app and the app isn't as flexible. I would check it out on your laptop first. I used it to find a flight from a small Midwest airport, to MIA to PP for under $700 which I consider a good deal since I'm nowhere near a major hub.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552736]I must be going a different way than everybody else. Where is this dirt road that you mentioned? In countless drives I have never gone on a dirt road. Same when someone was saying last week that they took the toll road then went through the mountains. I have never been through any mountains and I took that same new toll road last week. A wingman of mine mentioned some mountains to get to go through Playa something or other one time but I wouldn't know that way if you held a gun to my head.[/QUOTE]Going toward Sosua about 3 to 5 miles past field of dreams the first little place you come to you take a right hand turn and it is straight all the way to Santiago.

It is a beautiful drive

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1552741]What airport are you flying from? I booked a flight for this month (April) , out of Newark to POP with United. Price$492. I did it online last month. When I was researching dates, I found that a price could deviate up from $50 to hundreds of dollars more just by choosing the wrong combination of dates to travel. Also, I was told a few times that the best time to check for prices is on a Tuesday, because that is when many airlines compete with each other for business by lowering fares. Maybe your airline may not be in competition with another airline as far as adjusting prices, but you sure can play with your dates to see which combination gives you the lowest fare.[/QUOTE]Yes all of what you say is true. My flight to pop is always 600 or more and I always play with the dates but I did book last minute this time so maybe all the flights to pop were full. My friend booked last month and got a great flight with small lay overs at a good time of day at an all inclusive hotel for a week in may for 600 from my same airport. If you guys book on a holiday don't miss your flight I missed mine once during a holiday and it took 3 days out of my vacation and I had pay for the hotel rooms during travel all over the united states trying to get a flight to DR. I told them they could fly me anywhere in the DR and it still took 3 days

1st thing upon arrival to Puerto Plata I was told by a friend that the big chief police over the region had been traded out with the big chief police from Santo Domingo so I figured the Puerto Plata area would now be doing what Boca Chica and Santo Domingo area had been doing forever and that is harassing tourist for a dollar but I was wrong nothing seem to be any different there in Puerto Plata. They are a lot of traffic in and around Boca Chica but if you get caught at a red light where police are stationed they will most likely be chatting with you about something for me it was a seat belt in which I tried to tip my way out of a ticket but the police said they did not work that way any more that he was giving me a ticket. Fast forwarded to later that night and a tip is all the police wanted from me for a small fuck up in Boca Chica. If the police would just ask straight up or a few bucks it would not be a big deal but the way they try to scare the fuck out of you by saying they are going to have to take the matter to the police station is a big deal to me when the whole thing was just about a propina anyway.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1552396]FI've been to Colombia five times and prefer the DR over it, however Thailand is a totally different animal and if it wasn't so far away travel wise it would be me my preference over the DR.[/QUOTE]Curious as to why you prefer the DR over Colombia. Which cities in Colombia did you go to? BTW, I agree that Thailand is a great place with a lot to offer all around.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1552906]Curious as to why you prefer the DR over Colombia. Which cities in Colombia did you go to? BTW, I agree that Thailand is a great place with a lot to offer all around.[/QUOTE]That's a good question and I will try to explain why I prefer the DR over Colombia. I have been to Cartagena, Cali, Popayan, and Bogota once, and Medellin 4 times. The women in Colombia are the most beautiful on the planet, especially in Medellin, however Colombia is not a safe place for gringos, especially those with blond hair and blue eyes. The country has changed over the years but several places are very dangerous. In downtown Medellin it's not a good idea to be walking the streets after dark. You have to understand that tourism is something new in Colombia.

So why do I prefer the DR over Colombia? I need to have activities to do besides banging women 24/7. In Medellin as an example the places to stay close to where most of the action is very limited to flea bag hotels where as in Sosua you have a whole range of options. In Sosua I have a lot of daytime activities I can do that include the beach, surfing, kayaking, and swimming along with hiking, etc. There's not much to do in Medellin after a few days of seeing the City. Medellin does have some cultural things to do but that's not for me. I have friends that love Medellin, but they are there to bang the women 24/7. It's all a matter of personal preference / style and if you haven't been to Colombia I do recommend you go at least once to Medellin and decide for yourself if you want to return. If you decide to go PM me and I will give you some pointers. Additionally, if you don't speak any Spanish than things are going to be challenging, especially going with the girls that the locals go with from Avenida de la Grief.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1552906]Curious as to why you prefer the DR over Colombia. Which cities in Colombia did you go to?[/QUOTE]Like Surfer said, Colombianas are the most beautiful women on the planet. I hang out mostly in Cali and Bogota. I have been to Barranquilla 4 times, Santa Marta twice, and Cartagena once. I'm waiting for Gogo or SavePros to show me around Medellin. I also agree with Surfer that there is not shit to do in Colombia but walk around in malls window shopping. I have no problem getting chicks there, but once I have them there is only so much fucking and walking around a mall I can do.

I like to drive all around DR. DR gives me that down-home feeling. I remember being about 13 and going from Atlanta to Alabama with my dad and my cousin to install some carpet in my mom's parent's house. Every house we drove by people would wave like they knew us. Then we passed by one house and there were nothing but chicks who were outside waving. We turned around and went to meet them. They invited us in and made us dinner and all and they didn't know us from Adam. On the next trip I ended up fucking the one who was around my age. Her name was Tasha. That is what DR feels like to me. Somewhere that you may not know anyone, but if you approached any random person then they would welcome you with open arms.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1552967]Like Surfer said, Colombianas are the most beautiful women on the planet. I hang out mostly in Cali and Bogota. I have been to Barranquilla 4 times, Santa Marta twice, and Cartagena once. I'm waiting for Gogo or SavePros to show me around Medellin. I also agree with Surfer that there is not shit to do in Colombia but walk around in malls window shopping. I have no problem getting chicks there, but once I have them there is only so much fucking and walking around a mall I can do.

I like to drive all around DR. DR gives me that down-home feeling. I remember being about 13 and going from Atlanta to Alabama with my dad and my cousin to install some carpet in my mom's parent's house. Every house we drove by people would wave like they knew us. Then we passed by one house and there were nothing but chicks who were outside waving. We turned around and went to meet them. They invited us in and made us dinner and all and they didn't know us from Adam. On the next trip I ended up fucking the one who was around my age. Her name was Tasha. That is what DR feels like to me. Somewhere that you may not know anyone, but if you approached any random person then they would welcome you with open arms.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and Surfer500 but Medellin also has some quirks. Once we went to La Mayorista and I was dancing on the floor and I asked the girl I was dancing with where the bathroom was? She pointed to the wall. It was a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] bin on one corner of the dance floor with no privacy, it was open pissing. So you dance, then take five steps and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in front of everyone then turn and back to dancing. That was a first for me.

They drink differently also; you order bottles and the establishment supplies chaser (at a cost) and free ice. The girls stop buy and you pour them a drink. The problem is that the girls all drink out of your shot glass. So I learned to put my chewing gum in the shot glass when I didn't want to share. Most establishments that cater to Colombians rarely serve single drinks like rum and coke.

In Medellin you start looking for ugly women because they are so rare to see.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552967]That is what DR feels like to me. Somewhere that you may not know anyone, but if you approached any random person then they would welcome you with open arms.[/QUOTE]Soulful and true!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1552906]Curious as to why you prefer the DR over Colombia. Which cities in Colombia did you go to? BTW, I agree that Thailand is a great place with a lot to offer all around.[/QUOTE]I do agree with you gentlemen that Colombia has more beautiful women but you are also correct in saying that there is less to do. For some reason in DR there seems to be more open space, and things to do, to enjoy yourself.

The crime in Colombia is on a totally different level. I was in Poblado (the rich section of Medellin) and walking down the hill from the penthouse apartment me and my wingman rented, and I always noticed the two military police on every corner; each accompanied by dogs. There was a local business in the area and they feared bombings!

During my stay two Americans were killed. The Centro (poor section of Medellin) is quite dangerous at night. I had no problems navigating it but used considerable discretion and went in and out by taxi, whenever possible.

The 'Botero' museum in Medellin is in a poor neighborhood. The funny thing was that after leaving the museum we walked around and noticed many hookers leaning against the walls of the Catholic Church, looking for business, while a service was going on.

[QUOTE=Boriman; 1552997]I do agree with you gentlemen that Colombia has more beautiful women but you are also correct in saying that there is less to do. For some reason in DR there seems to be more open space, and things to do, to enjoy yourself.

The crime in Colombia is on a totally different level. I was in Poblado (the rich section of Medellin) and walking down the hill from the penthouse apartment me and my wingman rented, and I always noticed the two military police on every corner; each accompanied by dogs. There was a local business in the area and they feared bombings!

During my stay two Americans were killed. The Centro (poor section of Medellin) is quite dangerous at night. I had no problems navigating it but used considerable discretion and went in and out by taxi, whenever possible.

The 'Botero' museum in Medellin is in a poor neighborhood. The funny thing was that after leaving the museum we walked around and noticed many hookers leaning against the walls of the Catholic Church, looking for business, while a service was going on.[/QUOTE]That's the best info from the horses mouth I have heard about the DR vs Colombia from vets. They are all on the same accord. I was doing some research and someone said the P4P in Colombia is much more pricer. Can any of you guys respond.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1552957]That's a good question and I will try to explain why I prefer the DR over Colombia. I have been to Cartagena, Cali, Popayan, and Bogota once, and Medellin 4 times. The women in Colombia are the most beautiful on the planet, especially in Medellin, however Colombia is not a safe place for gringos, especially those with blond hair and blue eyes. I need to have activities to do besides banging women 24/7. In Medellin as an example the places to stay close to where most of the action is very limited to flea bag hotels where as in Sosua you have a whole range of options. In Sosua I have a lot of daytime activities I can do that include the beach, surfing, kayaking, and swimming along with hiking, etc. There's not much to do in Medellin after a few days of seeing the City. Medellin does have some cultural things to do but that's not for me. I have friends that love Medellin, but they are there to bang the women 24/7. It's all a matter of personal preference / style and if you haven't been to Colombia I do recommend you go at least once to Medellin and decide for yourself if you want to return. If you decide to go PM me and I will give you some pointers. Additionally, if you don't speak any Spanish than things are going to be challenging, especially going with the girls that the locals go with from Avenida de la Grief.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding. I've been to the DR over 30 times in 10 years so obviously I enjoy it. I've been all around the island and even stayed with some of my homeboys from NYC who still have family in the DR in various small towns. I was in Puerto Plata / Sosua 3 weeks ago and I am considering a move there along with Santiago or Santo Domingo. I'll be in Medellin in 3 weeks and I'm considering a relocation later this year to Cali or Medellin as well.

That being said, I enjoy Colombia for many of the reasons you mentioned but never found a lack of things to do. I don't have time right now to go into all of things I do, but if you have time you can check out some of the vids I've posted from my trips which tell about 20% story since they don't include things like trips to Pirate Island.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a782QuK7Kg4[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXWiOPQwHs[/url]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1553053]That's the best info from the horses mouth I have heard about the DR vs Colombia from vets. They are all on the same accord. I was doing some research and someone said the P4P in Colombia is much more pricer. Can any of you guys respond.[/QUOTE]Surfer500 would probably know more than me since he has traveled the country more but, overall, I found Colombia more expensive. Although one can always find bargains anywhere, when it comes to chicas, the prices they charge are usually higher. The standard of living in Colombia is higher than in DR and the average wage, from what I can gather, is also higher (like everything else in life this depends on many things!).

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1553053]That's the best info from the horses mouth I have heard about the DR vs Colombia from vets. They are all on the same accord. I was doing some research and someone said the P4P in Colombia is much more pricer. Can any of you guys respond.[/QUOTE]Grown Man, P4P in Medellin is very different than in Cartagena which has limited venues and is expensive compared to the other cities. I cannot comment on Bogota as I was only there for a day, but what I can tell you, Medellin, in my opinion, has the best selection of venues and prices ranging from street scenes, massage parlors, casa's, bars, strip clubs, etc.

My last trip I stayed in a hotel that cost about $ 15 US a night right opposite Botero Plaza in downtown Medellin. There is a square there and a church and during the day girls hangout looking for customers. I was getting CIM BJ's for less than $ 5 US and could take girls for as little as $ 10 US for an hour up to my room. Your probably wondering why it's so cheap? Because this location is a relatively unknown P4P destination, there are very few tourists in this part of town, it's very dangerous by night, and if you have blond hair and blue eyes you will be a target. I discovered this place which is a few blocks away from Avenida de la Grief on one of my previous trips. I stayed a week there and did not see a single other gringo in this part of town. For anyone thinking of venturing to this locale you will need some Spanish proficiency as nobody speaks or understands English there.

Is it only two days? Seems like a month.

The chica Samanta I spent a day with last time was texting me constantly after I went home, and the short time I spent in the sack with her promised great things to come. In my drunken stupor (or lustful passion) it seems I had promised her a phone from Canada, although I had only said "maybe". Now a phone from Canada means only one thing, an Iphone.

Covering all bases I had picked up an Alcatel Idol Mini for a hundred bucks, to use in trade, so to speak. Great phone! Iphone clone.

Keeping my powder dry, told no one when I was arriving or where I would be staying. But after a quick check in at the Terra Linda, and about to walk over to the strip for that first cold beer, I got a text,"Hola mi amor, me en reception".

She did look fine though, so WTF let's go. That first beer tasted good! Soon we're joined by the usual crowd, off duty barrisa amiga, her brother, a couple more old amiga chicas, and it except for welcoming shots from the bar owner, looks like I'll be buying the beer. My phone is suddenly lighting up like a christams tree. Santa is back in town.

We party on the strip, and 4 of us go for pizza.

Now me barrista amiga has it all figured out. She says she will save me mucho motoconcho dinero, because brother has borrowed a car. She points to the SUV parked across the street. Tomorrow beach party with fresh fish barbeque, next day picnic at Rio, etc.

Woah! Mi amor, let's just eat the damn pizza and drink the beer, manana is another day. But now they want to go back to Charamicos and party, and they know I love Charamicos. Cheap beer and good fun, and hola to relatives and old friends.

But chica S is asking about the damn phone, so we leave them there and go back to my room, to see if the chica delivers what I expected. She does and her prize is the new phone. Then off to Charamicos. A great night!

Much later, she wants to come back to my room and stay for the night, so I say ok, we fuck for a while, then I crash out.

An hour later she's waking me up. She's hungry, WTF? I say take the 1000 peso that's sitting on the dresser and I'll see you manana. But I need money she says, me I don't have any more money, but manana, ok? No. She says I have to leave now.

Now, I know she's drunk because I watched her drinking and she has bambina at home, but this is weird, so I get up dress, and walk her over to the ATM and after a minor argument about how much, I put her on a moto and off she goes. No hassle, cut my losses and walk away. Adios Samanta! (I did faithfully follow my one rule if I'm going back to a place, cut your losses and make no enemies!)

I wake up the next day in a haze and daze. The Desk is saying my credit card payment didn't go through. I say ok, but then I find my new laptop is dead, and my phone's not working properly (outgoing) so I can't easily resolve it. Oh shit!

After 5 years a veteran here, it's all a first time experience for me, weird trouble with chica, and ALL my devices not working properly. There's also a gash in my toe I never noticed before.

But things start looking up when I meet up with Marko (the original Rockies Bar owner)

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1553053]That's the best info from the horses mouth I have heard about the DR vs Colombia from vets. They are all on the same accord. I was doing some research and someone said the P4P in Colombia is much more pricer. Can any of you guys respond.[/QUOTE]Just like DR it all depends on which city and which spot you go to. For instance I would compare Sosua's old La Passion to a place called Dr. Amor in Cali. [url]http://www.clinicadoctoramor.com/[/url] Whereas guys were paying what $60 in La Passion, at Dr. Amor you would pay $30 for way better chicks IMHO. Then there are also places like Cristal in Puerto Plata. To me those are clip joints. You walk in and have to give up $50 for two drinks and pay the house $80 for the girl to leave with you, then pay the girl a fee on top of that. There are other casas where you pay $1 / minute. There are places like the high end brothels in Santo Domingo. Then there is an area like Santa Fe in Bogota that is a neighborhood full of bars, casas, and street walkers. You pay $5 for the room and whatever you negotiate to the girl. Usually for me $10. Then you can ask the girl how much if I was to want you to come with me for all night sometime. I have never had a problem getting them to agree to $50, but for all night stuff I am with non-pros instead. Or you can go to Cartagena (the most expensive city in Colombia besides San Andres island) to La Dolce Vida (just like Classicos) and the girls will want $100 and up for all night. Also, you can go on many websites where girls advertise themselves. You will see many for $35 or $40. Then there are others where guys pay girls $300 for all night. There is no one price or one venue fits all. There is something for everybody at all price levels.

In general I am a Dominican Republic monger however next week I will be in Medellin. Colombia and the Dominican Republic are like apples and oranges they are both fruit but distinctly different. I too agree that overall Colombianas are more beautiful than Dominicanas however I prefer the Dominican Republic to Colombia. Primarily because I feel an ethnic connection to Dominicans since Hispanola was the primary port of the West African slave trade. There are plenty of Afro Colombians especially in Cartagena and Cali but not as many per capita as in the Dominican Republic.

In general (although not always) the Dominican Republic is less expensive than Colombia primarily because the airfare is more expensive. Chica prices range from La Picina casa in Cali 40, 000COP- $21. 00 to Mayorista Medellin street walkers for 20, 000COP-$10. 00 and you might have a heart attack at La Dolce Vida in Cartagena where some freelancers ask for 350, 000COP-$180. 00. Lodging and food varies with Cartagena in general being high cost due to it being the primary tourist destination in Colombia.

I have been to Medellin, Cartagena and Cali several times and I would say that Medellin gives you a cosmopolitan feel, Cartagena gives you a touristy feel and Cali gives you a rustic authentic Latin American feel. Each city is like a woman with a different personality and they need to be deal with accordingly. IMHO the Cartagena colonial city is one of the most beautiful cities in the Western Hemisphere and should be on every mongers "bucket list." The biggest turn off with Cartagena will be inflated prices the 9 that you could get in Cali at La Picina will cost you 40, 000COP but in Cartagena La DolceVida will cost you 350, 000-$180. 00. Cartagena is a great experience but be prepared to be gringo taxed.

Colombia has beaches just like the Dominican Republic however Cartagena and Santa Marta's beaches cannot touch Punta Cana's beach with sand that looks like powdered sugar and water that looks like green / blue kool aid.

I can go on and on but I will stop, the best advice is to do your research and visit each local and judge for yourself.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1553143]My last trip I stayed in a hotel that cost about $ 15 US a night right opposite Botero Plaza in downtown Medellin. There is a square there and a church and during the day girls hangout looking for customers. I was getting CIM BJ's for less than $ 5 US and could take girls for as little as $ 10 US for an hour up to my room. Your probably wondering why it's so cheap? Because this location is a relatively unknown P4P destination, there are very few tourists in this part of town, it's very dangerous by night, and if you have blond hair and blue eyes you will be a target. I discovered this place which is a few blocks away from Avenida de la Grief on one of my previous trips. I stayed a week there and did not see a single other gringo in this part of town. For anyone thinking of venturing to this locale you will need some Spanish proficiency as nobody speaks or understands English there.[/QUOTE]This area can be EXTREMELY dangerous if you don't know your way around, if you are gringo and walk two blocks in the wrong direction you are coming home in a body bag day or night, literally.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1552051]I saw the NY pizza place. In fact had parked the car in front. Both Frannie and I. It is Frannie who told me the pizza was pricey and not particularly good. I am not a pizza guy so it would not matter but opposite the Schnitzel palace, there is a pizzeria. I went there on Saturday with a woman. The chef and at least one woman inside were Italians. The pizza which she ate turned out to be a nice thin crust pizza, by looking at it.

I was at Sosua beach yesterday, Sunday. I saw big D's place and finally got to taste his food. The mixed platter of pork ribs and chicken was good but at 480 pesos for a small portion, I thought it was pricey. Derek (that is big D) turned out to be nice guy![/QUOTE]Maybe because I only ordered a slice as to why mine was thick and bland. Another couple ordered a whole pizza and it looked a lot thinner than my slice. Here are the menus.

As far as Big D's, I now only order the 1/2 chicken with papas and salad. The order is big enough to feed me and two other girls at Herman's. Granted, I do not eat a lot. But the order is around 350 and well worth the cost.

I never took much stock in taking girls phone numbers because I always like new ones but I am glad I started taking them because on this trip I have called 3 girls I had last time and it has been a good thing we both knew each other a little. I met this non hooker and she would not take a ride to meet me she made me pick her up and when I did her dad and brother were there as well to meet me and get my tag number but that was good with me. The same holds true this time for me on the money end most all girls will go with you for 1000 p and most will stay all night if you treat them well and fuck them like they like. This place is truly a mans paradise. We men have been sex deprived in most places in the world for far to long.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1553283]We men have been sex deprived in most places in the world for far to long.[/QUOTE]That is not my experience at all. Why do you feel that way?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1552967]I like to drive all around DR. DR gives me that down-home feeling.[/QUOTE]That is why I like the DR. I am sure I would enjoy myself in Thailand or in Colombia, but the in the DR there is no need to really "monger" and commercial sex establishments, because you can just pick women off the tree like low hanging fruit when you want them and integrate sex into your everyday life without making it a special activity. When you have all the good sex you want, there is no desire to monger.

In addition I like the DR. I like language, the culture, the food, the mountains, the landscaped, the music, the dancing, the people, the buses, the stores, the street markets, the vendors, the taxis, the motoconchos-everything (except the new NY Pizza restaurant pizza). When I am in the DR I am always 100% happy and never wish for a second I was somewhere else, so I have no desire to monger anywhere else, or even to monger.

I find the available DR women (and Haitian women) are bang on the demographic that I find sexually attractive, and I also find that these women perform very well in bed and are also very open to discussing sex, discussing sexual experiences and fantasies, and so on, which turns me on a lot. So Hispaniola is good for me.

I accept that if you are a guy of 60, even if reasonable looking, attractive chicas of 20 are going to have sex with you for some perceived economic benefit, so this does not bother me at all. If I am not in a long term relationship with a woman, I will give her 1000 pesos or maybe a little more for sex, but not get into exchanging cell phone numbers or Whatsapp or anything like that.

I don't mind at all if other people don't like the DR as much as I do, or if they prefer to monger elsewhere, but I just think it is a shame if they write stuff to put off those who have never been to the DR and scare them away from discovering what a great place the DR is.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1553316]That is why I like the DR. I am sure I would enjoy myself in Thailand or in Colombia, but the in the DR there is no need to really "monger" and commercial sex establishments, because you can just pick women off the tree like low hanging fruit when you want them and integrate sex into your everyday life without making it a special activity. When you have all the good sex you want, there is no desire to monger.[/QUOTE]I belong to your club. I have been to Thailand / Indonesia / HongKong etc for perhaps 50 times but I find the DR to be very different. Language and hence connections make a huge difference. I was at a Barber shop in San Francisco de Macoris. Other than the barber there were about 6-7 people including boys of 16/17 sitting there, I being the only client; they all wanted to chat with me, A stranger who they can actually speak with. I could actually related to that from my youth and thoroughly enjoyed it. Having said that, I am curious about Peru, Columbia, Chile and Argentina. Especially if one can hook up with regular women there.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1553265]Maybe because I only ordered a slice as to why mine was thick and bland. Another couple ordered a whole pizza and it looked a lot thinner than my slice. Here are the menus.[/QUOTE]The pizza I had was a medium, but it was fairly large and very mediocre. The crust was thick and soft and I like them thin and crunchy.

If you look carefully at the menu posted, you will see that the list of toppings is very limited. For example no mushrooms, anchovies, black olives, onions, green pepper, red peppers, fresh tomatoes, or pineapple, never mind any of the more exotic toppings like margerita (basil) or roasted garlic.

I asked for a ham and mushroom pizza, and they said it would be extra for the mushrooms and the medium pizza was almost US$20 and completely lacking in flavor with a very bland crust that seemed to need more salt. They did find some mushrooms, but it was obvious that they were the cheap sliced mushrooms out of a can.

There are so many very good pizza places in Sosua that, given the expensiveness of this pizza, I would not go there again until I heard something good about it. The reason I went there the first time was simply that it was very convenient for parking.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1553326]There are so many very good pizza places in Sosua that, given the expensiveness of this pizza, I would not go there again until I heard something good about it. The reason I went there the first time was simply that it was very convenient for parking.[/QUOTE]Besides the pizza at Movida, where else would you recommend pizza in Sosua.

Yes, I agree, the new NY pizza place sucks!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1553177]After 5 years a veteran here, it's all a first time experience for me, weird trouble with chica, and ALL my devices not working properly. There's also a gash in my toe I never noticed before.[/QUOTE]Dude, it happens to the best of us. When I return from any country, I'm always playing,"Where in the fuck did this bruise / slash come from from?" game!

Thanks for the trip report.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1553316]That is why I like the DR. I am sure I would enjoy myself in Thailand or in Colombia, but the in the DR there is no need to really "monger" and commercial sex establishments, because you can just pick women off the tree like low hanging fruit when you want them and integrate sex into your everyday life without making it a special activity. When you have all the good sex you want, there is no desire to monger.

In addition I like the DR. I like language, the culture, the food, the mountains, the landscaped, the music, the dancing, the people, the buses, the stores, the street markets, the vendors, the taxis, the motoconchos-everything (except the new NY Pizza restaurant pizza). When I am in the DR I am always 100% happy and never wish for a second I was somewhere else, so I have no desire to monger anywhere else, or even to monger.

I find the available DR women (and Haitian women) are bang on the demographic that I find sexually attractive, and I also find that these women perform very well in bed and are also very open to discussing sex, discussing sexual experiences and fantasies, and so on, which turns me on a lot. So Hispaniola is good for me..[/QUOTE]Not to disagree with your "Classy " post (You are free to laugh now Frannie) but you sugar coat things with your perspective. I don't want to come off as always challenging but I can't let some things slide. The DR is a corrupt society that has no respect for foreigners who want to contribute to its culture. True, the women are pretty and sweet at times but most times their motives aren't genuine. A guy can write his own ticket sexually but there are traps that must be avoided. To not let newbies know about these traps would do a disservice to this board.

Now lets get deep brother, if you don't mind? Believe me, there is a genuine "method to my madness", just play along please. You and Sir Charles can chime in since you two are the experts on this topic. You were / are married to a Dominicana but now have gravitated to Haitianas as has Sir Charles. I'm confused about that transition and need some insight.

First let me give my history about Haitianas here and in the States that I have experienced; I have never had a bad sexual episode with a Haitiana in Sosua, they are the best fuckers I have ever had. With the Dominicanas its hit and miss. I dated a Haitian girl here in the states from 2003 to 2006 and I rank her in the top five of my girlfriend of life. She wanted marriage and kids and I didn't want that so I advised her to move on. She did, and married a doctor and has three beautiful kids and we text now and then but I'm happy for her.

With this said I would like you to help me understand your transition to the Haitianas. I don't live in the DR, but I do because I'm always there. I like the same things about the DR that you do. Recently I had a conversation with an ex pat in Puerto Plata. He was a white guy trying to explain his perspective but he was a little over the top. I say this because he said he was a member of the Black Panthers in the 60s in Detroit and I didn't think they had white members. He said most guys were with the Haitianas because they were cheaper. He said some guys were intimidated by the Dominicanas ability to outwit them and the Haitianas were more genuine. He said some guys were suffering from "white guilt" and trying to make up for past equality deficiencies. I don't know and don't care because the Haitian girls are the bomb for me, but maybe you and Sir Charles can explain why you prefer Haitianas later in life and not before. What is it that you have now discovered?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1553437]Besides the pizza at Movida, where else would you recommend pizza in Sosua.

Yes, I agree, the new NY pizza place sucks![/QUOTE]Avalon, Bologna, pizzeria on Pedro Clissante. Restaurants often move locations.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1553316]in the DR there is no need to really "monger" and commercial sex establishments, because you can just pick women off the tree like low hanging fruit when you want them and integrate sex into your everyday life without making it a special activity.[/QUOTE]Well stated!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1553440]Dude, it happens to the best of us. When I return from any country, I'm always playing,"Where in the fuck did this bruise / slash come from from?" game![/QUOTE]Yes if you come to sport fuck like most of us do you going to leave with some marks on your body that you never knew you had because it hurt so good.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1553316]That is why I like the DR. I am sure I would enjoy myself in Thailand or in Colombia, but the in the DR there is no need to really "monger" and commercial sex establishments, because you can just pick women off the tree like low hanging fruit when you want them and integrate sex into your everyday life without making it a special activity. When you have all the good sex you want, there is no desire to monger.

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I have always picked them from the tree like you say but this time I had to see what the bar seen was like. Rumba etc was slammed with woman but I quickly seen that the women in these bars have a higher price tag when they are in those establishments so I choose to wait outside of the clubs until they came out. It is like they are defeated when they re-hit the street after coming up empty in those bars if you have not already tried inside then they will hit you with a lower price than they hit the guy with in the bar.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1553291]That is not my experience at all. Why do you feel that way?[/QUOTE]I know that they are guys like you who have had all the pussy they could stand since they were old enough to fuck but for me I always felt like I needed a steady girl friend and that limited my ability to meet new woman that I could fuck plus it has been one hell of a time making enough money to play this sport.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1553316]in the DR there is no need to really "monger" and commercial sex establishments, because you can just pick women off the tree like low hanging fruit[/QUOTE]Not to offend anyone, but this is why I don't get dudes that are staying at NG or Casa Cayena and rent a car so they can orbit PC with the windows down blasting Tupac? If you have a ride, why not do what is described above by Frannie while exploring different areas, especially off the beaten path?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1553442]He said some guys were suffering from "white guilt" and trying to make up for past equality deficiencies.[/QUOTE]Obviously I'm not a regular poster here and I wasnt party to the conversation, but it strikes me as ridiculous that someone would say such a thing.

Surely the truth is that all "white" members here just find these girls very attractive, aside from the part that sosua is just a vending machine for pussy.

Here is an island paradise where gents can indulge their desires and find the type of girls they like, and are young and cheap into the bargain.

Perhaps there is an element of forbidden fruit for some members in why they go to Sosua to procure caribbean pussy, perhaps because it is not possible in the US, or perhaps cross racial relations is not to a degree that it should be in an open society such as the US. I don't want to get in political discussion about the US, particularly as I'm not from there, but its probably mainly due to the fact that a hot african american 19 year old girl on Miami Beach isn't going to look twice at a 60 year old white guy. And vice versa! Thats life.

Thats where the magic of sosua comes in, poverty dictates that we can make an exchange to enjoy the ladies beauty whislt alleviating their poverty. Rights and wrong of it are for another board!

The idea that men are making a pilgramage for past atonements of their forefathers is patently absurd, and whilst there may be some bad eggs with views that ought to have been extinguished with the second world war, I am sure that virtually all men here just find these girls beautiful and want to fuck them night and day because there is nothing better.

I have quite regularly selected a "morena" from the casino of the Veneto in Panama, when they are other colombianas and other nationalites of various skin tones and belleza.

Why, well my senses have told me at a biological level that she is the most attractive girl there. Others may differ and thats their right.

Probably many of us have mongered in many locations, and have found women to be attractive in many parts of the world. I have certainly tried eastern europeans, italians, romanians, japanase amongst others but for me I always go for the pretty black girl in the room given the choice.

I'm sure many of the african american gentlemen on the forum have known all of their life what only some of us "white " guys have had the privelege of finding out, which is that having sex with a pretty young black lady is about as close to heaven as you can get. Anyone disagree?

If someone told me he was visiting Sosua for some kind of historical racial atonement or otherwise, I would nut the ****, finish my beer and get back to concentrate to chasing the honey with me money.

I confidently expect that none of the educated black gentleman her on the forum think badly of us white guys us for chasing skirt in Sosua just as we do not blink an eyelid if they go to Thailand or FKK Clubs or Medellin or wherever. They know we just like beautiful girls and there is no alterior motive. Its biology!

I recently had a cab driver drive me round Cali, and I though it was interesting that he said he really preferred the lighter skinned girls. I wasnt expecting him to have a preference for lighter skinned colombianas (he was a dark mestizo) , even though it is clear from my own experience that this could be true. I'm not sure if it was my ignorance or my bias, I would choose the latter. However it was an interesting insight into human nature and he was a good guy (even for a colombian). Each to their own, but I think he was mistaken.

It seems to me that the Haiti girls, from what has been said in the forum, seem to have less baggage and less bullshit and are more natural and no agenda apart from earning a living any way they can. Thats probably the main reason the dudes go for them. And the fact they are cheaper becasue their legal status is more precarious. So you can dictate the game.

I hope to get back to Sosua again and try Haiti's finest, I was lucky enough to have had no problems with the Dominicana girls last time when I visited and a memorable two girl with two young black vixens hanging on my every command (first and only time of my life) at Cuba Daves favourite ex-club, which although expensive did allow for these kind of things with no bullshit.

Just my two pesos!

Please provide more reviews of sosua for those who are starved and currently can get there right now. I was limited to La Paz, Bolivia recently which is a motel with a porn movie and your right hand. No decent pussy in sight.

Keep up the good work on the forum, its one of the more interesting ones!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1553442]With this said I would like you to help me understand your transition to the Haitianas. I don't live in the DR, but I do because I'm always there. I like the same things about the DR that you do. Recently I had a conversation with an ex pat in Puerto Plata. He was a white guy trying to explain his perspective but he was a little over the top. I say this because he said he was a member of the Black Panthers in the 60s in Detroit and I didn't think they had white members. He said most guys were with the Haitianas because they were cheaper. He said some guys were intimidated by the Dominicanas ability to outwit them and the Haitianas were more genuine. He said some guys were suffering from "white guilt" and trying to make up for past equality deficiencies. I don't know and don't care because the Haitian girls are the bomb for me, but maybe you and Sir Charles can explain why you prefer Haitianas later in life and not before. What is it that you have now discovered?[/QUOTE]I prefer Haitianas for the same reasons that you do, but for reasons of infrastructure, cost, language, etc. I find it preferable to live in the DR. However I may go to live in Haiti at some point.

In the DR the kind of women one meets in prostitution venues or places where women hope to meet tourists for a relationship online or by working in tourist restaurants and bars, inevitably a large percentage of the women will come from criminal or underclass backgrounds and bring a certain amount of baggage in terms of a propensity to scam benefactors or family members, etc.

Haitianas are perhaps a little more innocent, at least at first. Perhaps there is not a whole lot of difference between the Haitianas and the Dominicanas you are likely to meet in the street, but there are some differences in culture, language, etc. And one simply forms personal preferences. But every relationship exists ultimately at the individual level, and the real test is whether you can spend an extended time in the company of another without too many conflicts, and with continued or escalating sexual pleasure.

Personal preferences do change over time due to exposure to different experiences. If I look now at women of 20 who look like the women I would have found attractive when I was 20, I don't find them attractive at all. I first had sex with a black woman when I was about 25, but didn't really get turned on to black women sexually until I had been sexually involved with a few of them. Eventually I got to a point in my life where I spent very little time in the company of white people and had no particular desire to do so, especially in the US. Having spent more than 20 years in the US, I can hardly remember an instance of ever having been in the home of a white USian and have really only had one white USian male friend, who was the Portuguese son of immigrants from the Azores.

Recently in Florida I was in a Walmart and saw a stunning young African-American woman walking towards me who was the very vision of loveliness and I would have fucked her in a second. She was accompanied by another woman, who on closer inspection, once I had recovered from being dazzled by the young beauty, turned out to be a married Nigerian woman of about 40 who is actually a friend of mine whom I have known casually for several years. The lovely girl was her daughter, of course. I chatted with the mother for a couple of minutes while the young beauty stood there, chewed gum, and completely ignored me and avoided any eye contact with this old man. In Sosua I would have been in a serious conversation with her over the merits of 1000 pesos versus 1200 pesos.

Thanks for your replies gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1553684]I chatted with the mother for a couple of minutes while the young beauty stood there, chewed gum, and completely ignored me and avoided any eye contact with this old man. In Sosua I would have been in a serious conversation with her over the merits of 1000 pesos versus 1200 pesos.[/QUOTE]That's because to her you are not a "real man". You need to buy you a fresh pair of "J's", get tats that cover 98% of your body, and tell her that you'd "spend a million dollars fo ma muhfukin nig-a" (probably one of the most homo line ever said in a rap song).

These are "real men" to the modern-day young American knucklehead female:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs[/url]

Oh, you could have also just yelled "twerk sumthin".

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1553442]The DR is a corrupt society that has no respect for foreigners who want to contribute to its culture. True, the women are pretty and sweet at times but most times their motives aren't genuine. A guy can write his own ticket sexually but there are traps that must be avoided. To not let newbies know about these traps would do a disservice to this board.[/QUOTE]A lot of what has recently been posted in the Boca Chica forum about driving in the DR corroborates this statement.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1553697]That's because to her you are not a "real man". You need to buy you a fresh pair of "J's", get tats that cover 98% of your body, and tell her that you'd "spend a million dollars fo ma muhfukin nig-a" (probably one of the most homo line ever said in a rap song).

These are "real men" to the modern-day young American knucklehead female:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs[/url]

Oh, you could have also just yelled "twerk sumthin".[/QUOTE]I have made an appointment for tattoos tomorrow. Good thing it is covered by Obamacare.

"eyes front" in red underlined on my scrotum in English, Spanish, and Kreyol.

My girlfriend and I just go back from a week in Sosua. Everyone has their preferences and despite how nice everyone was to us, we really couldn't find the girl quality that we're used to (ie: Colombia, Panama, Philippines, Thailand). I saw several girls that I liked, but my girlfriend, who is extremely attractive, didn't care for the choices. She would have gladly observed or used the camera if I had chosen a chica. But what really turns me on at this point in my life, is a hot threesome with her and another hot lady.

So, to each his own, and happy mongering to all!

[QUOTE=Grub1;1553505]Yes if you come to sport fuck like most of us do you going to leave with some marks on your body that you never knew you had because it hurt so good.[/QUOTE]Not a great start to my week. But I need computer to sort out my credit card and Blackberry. Internet Café chico says follow me and takes me to back of Rocky's where former owner Marco is set up. A couple hours later he has taken the machine apart and fixed it. Even set me up with a seamless desktop to replace the stupid Windows 8 shit. While doing that he noticed my cut toe and fixed that.

But it was our conversation over those 2 hours which was enlightening. Like sitting down with MrGG, Frannie, Coolie, and SavePro, all at once.

I'll be staying there next time, simple but clean. Hot water and back up power etc.

Now all my shit is working and my hangover gone, I'm ready to "monger" again.

After my first bad experience, I'm more careful this time. But I see this dream 10 with and older puta who I have known a long time. Is she OK? I ask. Bien she says, maybe you give me propina for bringing her to you. Maybe, if she's as good as she looks. 2,000 pesos is agreed for ST.

We go back to Terra Linda and she really looks fine, she bbj, we fuck, and then she says no condom for 500p. I'm in love at this point and she knows it. OK, she gives all.

Finish up and she switches like a robot. I want another 2, 000, she says. Whaaaat? No way!

She says she will not leave until I pay her more. She will wait for policia.

More later.

[QUOTE=Oakie]But I see this dream 10 with and older puta who I have known a long time. Is she OK? I ask. Bien she says, maybe you give me propina for bringing her to you. 2,000 pesos is agreed for ST. We go back to Terra Linda and she really looks fine, she bbj, we fuck, and then she says no condom for 500p. I'm in love at this point and she knows it. OK, she gives all.

Finish up and she switches like a robot. I want another 2, 000, she says. Whaaaat? No way! She says she will not leave until I pay her more. She will wait for policia.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show that contrary to what some have asserted, the generosity of the punter has no bearing on the "friendliness" or attitude of the service provider. A scam artist is going to run a scam no matter how much or how little is agreed upon. So much for the referral method as well. How much did you give the older chick for a finder's fee? LOL.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1553675]Surely the truth is that all "white" members here just find these girls very attractive, aside from the part that sosua is just a vending machine for pussy.

I'm sure many of the african american gentlemen on the forum have known all of their life what only some of us "white " guys have had the privelege of finding out, which is that having sex with a pretty young black lady is about as close to heaven as you can get. Anyone disagree?

If someone told me he was visiting Sosua for some kind of historical racial atonement or otherwise, I would nut the, finish my beer and get back to concentrate to chasing the honey with me money.[/QUOTE]I am not a psychologist therefore I will not attempt to judge the motives of other mongers but I will say we are all different based on a myriad of different factors. I am an Afro American man who does NOT agree that "sex with a pretty young black lady is about as close to heaven as you can get." In my experience sexual enjoyment is based on mutual actors such as connection attraction and ability to communicate. One of my most fantastic sexual experiences occurred in a low class barrio in San Salvador, El Salvador where I felt like I was the only person of African decent in the entire country. In that experience something happened with us that had nothing to do with ethnicity or the color of our skin and I will remember that experience as long as I live. Despite that experience and others with women with European appearance primarily in Medellin I prefer women of color because of what I perceive is an ethnic connection.

The Island of Hispanola was the first stop in the West African slave trade and the reason you will find so many people of African decent on the island both Hatian and Dominican. I feel a connection with many of them because I realize the difference between my ancestors and theirs was where the slave ship was going. My point is what attracts and connects different mongers to different women is a complex issue that often is deeper than sex.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257; 1553945]I am not a psychologist therefore I will not attempt to judge the motives of other mongers but I will say we are all different based on a myriad of different factors. I am an Afro American man who does NOT agree that "sex with a pretty young black lady is about as close to heaven as you can get." In my experience sexual enjoyment is based on mutual actors such as connection attraction and ability to communicate. One of my most fantastic sexual experiences occurred in a low class barrio in San Salvador, El Salvador where I felt like I was the only person of African decent in the entire country. In that experience something happened with us that had nothing to do with ethnicity or the color of our skin and I will remember that experience as long as I live. Despite that experience and others with women with European appearance primarily in Medellin I prefer women of color because of what I perceive is an ethnic connection.

The Island of Hispanola was the first stop in the West African slave trade and the reason you will find so many people of African decent on the island both Hatian and Dominican. I feel a connection with many of them because I realize the difference between my ancestors and theirs was where the slave ship was going. My point is what attracts and connects different mongers to different women is a complex issue that often is deeper than sex.[/QUOTE]Well said.

And personal taste is the prime factor.

For many there is the "taboo" or "forbidden fruit" aspect when they can enjoy a woman of another race that they cannot enjoy at home, and the occasional factor of opposites attracting. As a caucasian male, my taste for women of color has developed in the DR to the point that it is hard for a white / fair-skinned woman to get my attention anymore. Something about the skin tone, the body differences, combined with the Dominican "talent?" for sex. Have been "novio-ed" with a dark Dominicana for a while now, and that gravity-defying, bubble-butt of hers keeps me mesmerized.

Oakie.

Aside from the psychological trauma you did not do too badly. 4500 pesos damage or about 114 Canadian dollars for barebacking a 10 is not too shabby. This would not be possible back home.

Thanks for sharing your story Oakie. It looks like extortion from putas is still happening there.

The next time a chica offers you bareback in Sosua, just remember what Admiral Ackbar said:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA[/url]

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1553945]I am an Afro American man who does NOT agree that "sex with a pretty young black lady is about as close to heaven as you can get." In my experience sexual enjoyment is based on mutual actors such as connection attraction and ability to communicate.[/QUOTE]Having had liaisons with white, black, Asian (no middle-easterners unfortunately so far. Unless you count in Dubai) , I completely agree with that statement. Color has very little to do with it. It is the sheer magic of chemistry. I have had a Romanian woman in a German FKK who I spoke with in Italian (thinking she is Italian) and somehow it created a strange rapport, same in a private orgy place in London, where a Brazilian could speak with me in Spanish and suddenly she clicked, compared to other males who had no clue in any language other than the Queen's language.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1553871]My girlfriend and I just go back from a week in Sosua. Everyone has their preferences and despite how nice everyone was to us, we really couldn't find the girl quality that we're used to (ie: Colombia, Panama, Philippines, Thailand). I saw several girls that I liked, but my girlfriend, who is extremely attractive, didn't care for the choices. She would have gladly observed or used the camera if I had chosen a chica. But what really turns me on at this point in my life, is a hot threesome with her and another hot lady.

So, to each his own, and happy mongering to all![/QUOTE]If I had a steady girlfriend, I would feel the need to take her anywhere.

But, to each his own.

"We go back to Terra Linda and she really looks fine, she bbj, we fuck, and then she says no condom for 500p. I'm in love at this point and she knows it. OK, she gives all.

Finish up and she switches like a robot. I want another 2, 000, she says. Whaaaat? No way!

She says she will not leave until I pay her more. She will wait for policia."

So did you pay? Don't leave us hanging. 500p seems pretty cheap to begin with, that had to throw you a red flag?

Come on Oakie, you are killing me with these mishaps!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1553697]That's because to her you are not a "real man". You need to buy you a fresh pair of "J's", get tats that cover 98% of your body, and tell her that you'd "spend a million dollars fo ma muhfukin nig-a" (probably one of the most homo line ever said in a rap song).

These are "real men" to the modern-day young American knucklehead female:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs[/url]

Oh, you could have also just yelled "twerk sumthin".[/QUOTE]And will soon be the same to the modern-day Dominican female. This guy is supposed to be the hottest thing in New York now and has just made a video in Sosua. It makes me remember what happened to Rio de Janeiro after Snoop Dogg made the Beautiful video there.

[url]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2Nr3E0e8PYLoj2aW[/url]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1554019]So did you pay? Don't leave us hanging. 500p seems pretty cheap to begin with, that had to throw you a red flag? [/QUOTE]I think he meant the girl would allow him to bareback for 500 in addition to the 2000 for short time they had already agreed to. Then she wanted to extort him for another 2000 in addition to that when all was said and done. So 4500 for short time.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1553871]My girlfriend and I just go back from a week in Sosua. Everyone has their preferences and despite how nice everyone was to us, we really couldn't find the girl quality that we're used to (ie: Colombia, Panama, Philippines, Thailand). I saw several girls that I liked, but my girlfriend, who is extremely attractive, didn't care for the choices. She would have gladly observed or used the camera if I had chosen a chica. But what really turns me on at this point in my life, is a hot threesome with her and another hot lady.

So, to each his own, and happy mongering to all![/QUOTE]I guess that is one of the drawbacks to your particular situation. It's hard enough for a lone monger to find someone that he will really like, but for your situation you have to find a person who is pleasing to two people. You saw chicks that you liked but your girl didn't like any. Just goes to show once again that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1554020]And will soon be the same to the modern-day Dominican female. This guy is supposed to be the hottest thing in New York now and has just made a video in Sosua. It makes me remember what happened to Rio de Janeiro after Snoop Dogg made the Beautiful video there.

[url]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2Nr3E0e8PYLoj2aW[/url][/QUOTE]Lmao. Sosua is going to be the new video location for broke rappers ("Ballers on a budget"). I don't think you have to worry about the same thing that happened in Rio happening in Sosua. The place is so corrupt that the problem would end up fixing itself.

Remember what happened to a Senior Member and that guy Habib who was trying to shoot pornos in Sosua:

[b][i]Dedicated to ***** ASS Ramon[/b]

Yeah Fam, Ramon is 100% pure *****. If You see him in Dominican Republic, Sosua. Stay the fuck away from his ***** ass. He will try to get you setup. I knew Ramon for about 6 years. I treated this ***** like family. When he would be broke I would wire him money, I literally gave this ***** the clothes off my back. But, one thing REAL hustlers knows YOU DONT FUCK THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOUR ***** ASS . So, every time i come visit, he handles finding the the hoes gives them some $$ and keeps the rest. We had a good thing and he WAS happy. But, this year was different, he kept on complaining " I need more money", "You CHEAP, I know you are Rich” Anyway, the day we left to the airport, Ramon came with us in the Taxi. A few miles out of town on the main street, 3 guys one with an AK-47 were standing on the street. they waved our taxi down and said they the police and wanted to check our passports. Then they took all our luggage from the taxi and put it in there ghetto ass car. WE have a complaint, you all are going to jail for shooting videos. I was thinking who the fuck would care and who would say anything. All the females were cool with me and there was not one ***** mad. Ramon was acting to cool, like he wasnt surprised and why they werent arresting snitch ass ramon. We even asked them can we see the complaint. They gave us some Bullshit paper, which had none of our names on it and said nothing about us. So, these dominican police pulled us over to the side of a cemetery and they took my laptop and camcorder any they still holding their AK-47 at us. Ramon was interpreting for us and said we going to have to give them some $$$ or we all fucked. If you haven’t heard about how corrupt and violent Dominican police are just google them. I was broke, I didnt even have a dollar to my name. But, thank fully one of my other homies made money gambling and so he paid these punk ass police. They gave me back my laptop and camcorder and let us go. The shit happends so fast and we didnt have time to think until we got in the airport. It took me30 minutes to realize we were setup by Ramon and it was confirmed when we got back in the states. So, Ramon you *****, I hope KARMA catches up to your ass and you get what you deserve. I made this page dedicated soley to you. YOU PUNK *****.[/i]

[url]http://thehabibshow.com/tour/page15.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1554021]I think he meant the girl would allow him to bareback for 500 in addition to the 2000 for short time they had already agreed to. Then she wanted to extort him for another 2000 in addition to that when all was said and done. So 4500 for short time.[/QUOTE]Well then that makes more sense. Damn this reading and drinking habit!

4500 for ST; OUCH!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1554019]"We go back to Terra Linda and she really looks fine, she bbj, we fuck, and then she says no condom for 500p. I'm in love at this point and she knows it. OK, she gives all.

Finish up and she switches like a robot. I want another 2, 000, she says. Whaaaat? No way!

She says she will not leave until I pay her more. She will wait for policia."

So did you pay? Don't leave us hanging. 500p seems pretty cheap to begin with, that had to throw you a red flag?

Come on Oakie, you are killing me with these mishaps![/QUOTE]Sorry didn't mean to play drama queen here, but ex novia was (and is) looking over my shoulder.

Every thing worked out, but Sosua never ceases to surprise!

There WILL be more later.

Looking forward to your TR. I answered some of the questions you posted about your trip to India. Are you still on?

[QUOTE=Grub1;1552652]Decided to go to the DR last minute and was blown away by the price difference in pop 1000 dollars and sdq 400 so of course I took sdq and the savings paid for the rental car and all the gas for the trip. The drive sucks big time for me either way I go. When driving the partly dirt road from Santiago to Puerto Plata they are those people who hold the ropes up across the road so you will stop and give a donation I was lucky and all the people let the ropes down before I plowed into them. That is good for both of US. If money is not a issue with anyone travelling to the DR I suggest that you fly straight into PP for that is the best mongering place I have found in the DR but you can pick great pussy up all over the country.[/QUOTE]

"Lmao. Sosua is going to be the new video location for broke rappers ("Ballers on a budget")."

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVf7b2Y1ozs[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554129]"Lmao. Sosua is going to be the new video location for broke rappers ("Ballers on a budget")."

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVf7b2Y1ozs[/url][/QUOTE]I was just waiting for the gun to go off! I can't tell you how many times I have seen dudes playing around with hand guns and the shit accidentally goes off!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554129]"Lmao. Sosua is going to be the new video location for broke rappers ("Ballers on a budget")."

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVf7b2Y1ozs[/url][/QUOTE]Wow this was a true example of feaux-ballin. Where did they get the chicas in the video. I have seen much better talent on the strip. You would think they would have better stock.

[QUOTE=ChicaSaurusRex;1554283]Wow this was a true example of feaux-ballin. Where did they get the chicas in the video. I have seen much better talent on the strip. You would think they would have better stock.[/QUOTE]You probably meant to say "faux-ballin", but I agree. They did what they could afford, lmao.

Even the Fareed guy ("bailando en la playa") had better looking chicas.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1553697]That's because to her you are not a "real man". You need to buy you a fresh pair of "J's", get tats that cover 98% of your body, and tell her that you'd "spend a million dollars fo ma muhfukin nig-a" (probably one of the most homo line ever said in a rap song).

These are "real men" to the modern-day young American knucklehead female:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs[/url]

Oh, you could have also just yelled "twerk sumthin".[/QUOTE]My God, has human existence on Earth come to this?

How different is this "culture" in the most prosperous, technologically advanced nation on the planet from the barbarity seen in the Liberian civil war (see photo)?

How much would it take for these types to start hacking off limbs?

[QUOTE=ChicaSaurusRex;1554283]Wow this was a true example of feaux-ballin. Where did they get the chicas in the video. I have seen much better talent on the strip. You would think they would have better stock.[/QUOTE]I think the girls were American, they brought them down with them. I heard a couple of them speaking english and they sound like they are from NY

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554129]"Lmao. Sosua is going to be the new video location for broke rappers ("Ballers on a budget")."

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVf7b2Y1ozs[/url][/QUOTE]This guy thinks hes on that show "Cribs". Too bad its someone else's house. Hahaha Todays rappers, rented house, rented girls, rented rolex, rented chains & rented talent. LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1554025]I guess that is one of the drawbacks to your particular situation. It's hard enough for a lone monger to find someone that he will really like, but for your situation you have to find a person who is pleasing to two people. You saw chicks that you liked but your girl didn't like any. Just goes to show once again that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]You're right. Thus, in this situation, my best interests are served by making it a point to first cater to my girlfriend's choices. In the past, I've made the mistake of not doing that and the result was when it came time for the threesome, she really wasn't that much into it. So I've learned my lessons.

[QUOTE=Shockman;1554087]Looking forward to your TR. I answered some of the questions you posted about your trip to India. Are you still on?[/QUOTE]I can't make my mind up about India. Thanks for your help answering me.

[QUOTE=ChicaSaurusRex;1554283]Wow this was a true example of feaux-ballin. Where did they get the chicas in the video. I have seen much better talent on the strip. You would think they would have better stock.[/QUOTE]Just imagine you stop into a spot on the strip to chill, have a drink, talk to some ladies. And then BAM: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xGdrcGyKJw[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554419]Just imagine you stop into a spot on the strip to chill, have a drink, talk to some ladies. And then BAM:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xGdrcGyKJw[/url][/QUOTE]Dude. What a nightmare. Who goes to Sosua for a friggin Sausagefest. I saw one chica in the video and she was leaving. Smh.

day 3 / sunday:

headed to the beach and herman cooked up some steaks. told the original beach girl (obg) to meet me around 3. ronnyron showed up shortly after i arrived and was completely enjoying the sunday pussy parade. the amount of women on the beach was overwhelming. part of it was the lack of patrolling police, so the girls were not afraid to come out to play. once in a great while, there was one police patrol, and some of the girls would rep001ter like roaches when someone turned on the lights.

obg showed up on time and wanted me to go down to mary's bar, but the last time i was there they overcharged me; thus, fuck them forever. i told obg if she wanted to go see her friends at mary's, it would be no problem, i would be sitting in the same spot at herman's. i told her to check back with me every hour, and she did. we left the beach around 6 and retired to the room. obg reminded me why i fell for her in the first place; passionate as hell!

simple fucking monger protocol! :

later on i went to rumba and got the first table. it wasn't long before little dancer came by to say hi and i bought her a beer as usual. i met her on my very first visit as well. we are holding a conversation, when some fuck comes over and starts talking to her. not just to say hi, but this clown wants to converse with the girl i'm sitting with, and enjoying the beer that i bought. i gave him the,"what in the fuck are you doing look?" and he decided to move on. this did not just happen once with little'd, but twice.

later, a new girl came up and sat down and we started talking. i liked her, so i bought a beer. a different fuck comes walking over and does the same fucking thing. i looked him in the eye and said,"dude, really?" he got the brief message and walked away, but only briefly. he returned and started the conversation with her again. meanwhile, she keeps looking at me for advice. no advice needed because i did not realize that juan was watching me the entire time. juan came over, turned the fuck around, and basically told him enough!

so my question to the board,"why is this non etiquette behavior accepted?" if i see a girl that i know, and i know a lot of girls, that is talking to another monger, the most i would do is wave / wink at her and move on. personally, i would never stop and have a conversation with her, not ever! but some of these fucks seem to feel that because of the environment, this is an ok practice. alright, i'll jump off my soapbox.

later, ronnyron and i headed over to d'latin. i kept running into fannie, a shared girl between me and mr. gogo. she is a tad wild and a blast to spend time with, in and out of the room. she also has some of the strongest massage hands in sosua. i told her that obg kicked my ass earlier in the evening, but i would enjoy one of her great massages later on; she smiled and gave me a nice kiss. i told her to check back with me in an hour, but she decided just to hang with me instead; i was fine with that.

she started talking to the somewhat chunky girl next to her. it wasn't long before chunky became interested in both of us; so she joined our little gang. chunky also wanted to join in on the massage party later in my room. so being in the,"why the fuck not" mode, we brought her along just for the hell of it. fannie and chunky took to my tequila like fish to water. in fact, after 3-4 shots, i had to cut chunky off. i reminded her that she needed to watch her girlish figure. well, fannie was a blast as always, but chunky was a dud. it was like fucking a tree log, but with less friction!

day 4 / monday:

headed to the beach, but herman's is closed on mondays, so i sat at carolina's place. carolina's is always my back-up beach bar. i had no plans, but got a call from my sd girl, so i told her to meet me at the beach and bring her bikini that i bought her last time she was here. she said she wanted to bring a friend; no problem. my new plan was to hang out, drink, eat, swim, and enjoy the day with my girl. for whatever reason, it did not work out.

carolina came over and was begging for a beer as usual, but it had to be a corona. ok, get your fucking corona. then, the merchant lady, who i have bought multiple items from, bikinis and other clothing, came by and she was thirsty, so i bought her an orange juice. so my girl and her friend show up and i have to clear the table of others so they can sit next to me; my requirement of course. meanwhile, the merchant lady starts trying to sell panties to my girl and her friend. i got pissed and told her there would be no business transactions at my table; take your orange juice and go!

my girl orders a pina colada and her friend orders a soda. after a while carolina returns with this huge pineapple full of whatever. the drink sucks! i asked carolina why did she not bring me the glass of pina colada, and why did she bring the more expensive version. she got angry with me and said i should have asked for the glass, instead of the whole pineapple. my response," la cuenta, por favor!" she was not happy, neither was i, don't fuck with me; you will lose business in the long run! we decided that the pool was a better option for the afternoon; worked out well. later, my girl and i had a great dinner at movida.

later in the evening, i partied with little dancer and other pals in rumba and d'latin. i met some new girls in d'latin and miguel was once again was on track with flowing kamikazes. one girl i really liked, maybe because she keep lip-locking my dumb ass. little'd was amused as always. the new girl looked a tad asian; i was intrigued to say the least. we exchanged numbers and we made a beach date for the next day. lid'd and i drank for another couple of hours. then i had her give me one of her so-so massages; only because i really care for the girl.

day 5 / tuesday:

i head to the beach, carolina wants to stop me, and blame my girl for the problem yesterday; i did not deal with any of the drama, just kept walking. i told herman i had a date for the day so i waited for the text or call. it wasn't long before asia called me and told me she was on her way. herman was skeptical as usual. when she arrived, i told herman that she looked better last night. he laughed, and said,"of course she did. you were drinking all day and night, what did you expect?" either way, i made a date, she showed up, so i was committed! i don't bullshit the girls; never! we sat and drank at herman's for 2-3 hours. she was planting nice kisses on me the entire time. after a awhile, herman said,"hey, i like her, what is her phone number?" so, i gave it to him; what are friends for anyhow?

when we got to the hotel, asia was off the hook. we had one minor incident. when i took off her bra, a folding knife fell to the floor, about a 3 inch blade. she freaked out when it fell out and said she was sorry 3-4 times, and then pushed it under the bed. i basically told her that it was not a problem whatsoever; i understand the issues she has in life in general. btw, patricia carries a 6 inch blade; you must be a fucking rookie! asia performed like a champ; i almost fell in love. the key word in the last sentence was,"almost."

later i walked into rumba and miguel was sitting there. i asked how come he was no longer working at d'latin and he said he had a problem with the management. fuck, one of my favorite meseros in sosua is no longer working; it was a disappointment to say the least. so he drank with me for quite a bit and tried to show the bartenders at rumba how to make a good kamikaze, but to no avail.

later on patricia came in and was in the hugging and kissing mood. i saw her every night, but i kept telling her maybe a different night. each night, i checked her purse and bra and she was not carrying a blade. i asked her,"is this the new patricia?" and she said that she changed. no more hard drugs, whatever that meant, and no more knifes; a good thing. i gave in and decided to take her to the room. but before the room, she said she was hungry and wanted some spaghetti, so i bought some from across the street to go.

before we retired to the room, we reviewed the previous rules;

1. don't kill or lame me!

2. no knifes allowed in the room.

3. no drugs allowed in the room.

4. this is how much you will receive for services; no changing your crazy ass mind.

5. if you forget most of the rules, at least remember the first rule!

in the room, patricia has changed as well. no more photos and she was very cautious on what and how she played. i'm happy for her with the new changes, but how i miss the old drugged up, crazy ass, knife flinging patricia; yes, i'm a sucker for excitement!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1554434]In the room, Patricia has changed as well. No more photos and she was very cautious on what and how she played. I'm happy for her with the new changes, but how I miss the old drugged up, crazy ass, knife flinging Patricia; yes, I'm a sucker for excitement![/QUOTE]Wow. Glad to hear my old girl "Pie" aka Patricia is still around. I haven't seen her since Feb 2113. I first meet her about 5 yrs ago in After One and after a few crazy ass episodes with her, we established a very good relationship. Hell, she has even serviced me "gratis" a few times. According to her she told me that the "cocoa" was why she was soooo unpredictable. But she garnishes a lot of respect in the hood because I've gone places with her that I would never conceive on going by myself. Don't misunderstand, she will take advantage of gringos who think they know some shit, because I've seen her in action and she later explained that whoever she was "working" at the time, deserved it. Crazy as shit, but a good heart. I miss her crazy ass. Tell her Kyle said hola. Peace.

I know how you roll brother and you are like a vacuum when you enter the clubs, all the fine girl start running to your table. Maybe those jokers that kept talking to your girls realized you had all the pretty girls at your table LOL.

When we went to "After One" that night you had 5 girls at our table and two rows of girls on standby behind them. I remember telling you that this situation wasn't safe and to select just a couple girls. I think Fannie went home with me and you had a girl on each arm as we headed to New Gardens. Even when we stopped at the food stand on the way to New Gardens it was girls following you like you were a celebrity.

I stayed with Fannie that night and most of the next afternoon, great girl. That night I was hanging with you and Mr E and I told you about Fannies secret technique and I saw your eyes light up. I was in the mood for some new pussy so when I saw Fannie walking up I placed her next to you and I didn't see her for the next two days LOL.

I've also noticed the disrespect from dudes who don't respect the game. I have banged chics and two hours later see the same chic hugged up with some dude on the strip, I just walk by smiling without looking in her direction. You can't knock a chic for getting her hustle on. Understand that these girls in Sosua now are bussiness women. They like having options. My mentality is that is up to the girl to check the dudes for being rude, not me (Its ruining her hustle). I'm not fighting over a Sosua trick.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554419]Just imagine you stop into a spot on the strip to chill, have a drink, talk to some ladies. And then BAM:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xGdrcGyKJw[/url][/QUOTE]Maybe they were hoping to get their pussy for free? Like:

"3000 pesos??? B!tch did you not see me rapping at Winner's Circle earlier? I'm a muthafuckin superstar! You should be paying ME for sex!"

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554129]"Lmao. Sosua is going to be the new video location for broke rappers ("Ballers on a budget")."

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVf7b2Y1ozs[/url][/QUOTE]This one was shot in Pto Pta

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1554477]Maybe they were hoping to get their pussy for free? Like:

"3000 pesos? B! Tch did you not see me rapping at Winner's Circle earlier? I'm a muthafuckin superstar! You should be paying ME for sex!"[/QUOTE]Thats how a spot gets fked up! Too much publicity! LOL! Time to move on!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1554434]So my question to the board,"Why is this non etiquette behavior accepted?" If I see a girl that I know, and I know a lot of girls, that is talking to another monger, the most I would do is wave / wink at her and move on. Personally, I would never stop and have a conversation with her, not ever! But some of these fucks seem to feel that because of the environment, this is an OK practice. Alright, I'll jump off my soapbox.[/QUOTE]Seems like an odd thing to do, since mongers are renowned for their classy behavior, but to diagnose the exact reason for this behavior one would need to know more about who these guys were, for example age, nationality, level of intoxication, etc.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1554434]Carolina came over and was begging for a beer as usual, but it had to be a Corona. OK, get your fucking Corona. Then, the merchant lady, who I have bought multiple items from, bikinis and other clothing, came by and she was thirsty, so I bought her an orange juice. So my girl and her friend show up and I have to clear the table of others so they can sit next to me; my requirement of course. Meanwhile, the merchant lady starts trying to sell panties to my girl and her friend. I got pissed and told her there would be no business transactions at my table; take your orange juice and go!

My girl orders a Pina Colada and her friend orders a soda. After a while Carolina returns with this huge pineapple full of whatever. The drink sucks! I asked Carolina why did she not bring me the glass of Pina Colada, and why did she bring the more expensive version. She got angry with me and said I should have asked for the glass, instead of the whole pineapple. My response," La cuenta, por favor!" She was not happy, neither was I, don't fuck with me; you will lose business in the long run![/QUOTE]Merchant lady tries to sell merchandise. Shock! Horror!

A Pina Colada is a mixed drink composed of three parts pineapple juice, one part cream of coconut, and one part rum, blended with crushed ice. It is often served with a drinking straw in a hollowed-out pineapple, which is very ecologically sound. Sometimes it is served in a ceramic container shaped to look like a fake pineapple. Where do you think the pineapple juice comes from? Why it should cost less in a glass, I don't know. Another similar precursor to the pina colada is the coco loco, a drink made from coconut milk and rum blended then served in a decapitated coconut shell. Rumour is that when there was a strike of coconut pickers in Puerto Rico, someone decided to serve coco loco in a hollowed out pineapple and someone else liked the piney flavor so much that they invented the pina colada. I don't know if this is true.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554419]Just imagine you stop into a spot on the strip to chill, have a drink, talk to some ladies. And then BAM:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xGdrcGyKJw[/url][/QUOTE]They looked like they were having innocent fun, especially the karaoke singer and the two Stevie Wonders.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1554477]Maybe they were hoping to get their pussy for free? Like:

"3000 pesos? B! Tch did you not see me rapping at Winner's Circle earlier? I'm a muthafuckin superstar! You should be paying ME for sex!"[/QUOTE]Exactly, LOL. Trying to floss like you would do in the states, only doing it in Sosua where you can get pussy for $25 dollars.

As far as it becoming a hub for wanna bees, the rapper wife beater crew is nothing new to Sosua. I know you recall this classic, LOL How many dudes would make a music video in a Sosua brothel about how many women they can have? [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8lMGFy3Fc4[/url]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1553254]This area can be EXTREMELY dangerous if you don't know your way around, if you are gringo and walk two blocks in the wrong direction you are coming home in a body bag day or night, literally.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for me I can pass for a Colombian as I have olive color skin, brown hair (what's left of it) , and green eyes. A blond haired blue eyed gringo would be " dead meat" as you mention in this part of town, especially at night.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1554612]Exactly, LOL. Trying to floss like you would do in the states, only doing it in Sosua where you can get pussy for $25 dollars.

As far as it becoming a hub for want to bees, the rapper wife beater crew is nothing new to Sosua. I know you recall this classic, LOL How many dudes would make a music video in a Sosua brothel about how many women they can have?

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8lMGFy3Fc4[/url][/QUOTE]Damn, I miss the OLD Passions, those were the days.

I decided to go and check out field of dreams after a long night with friends and chicas. It was 5am I figured that some girls would be out in the bar or by the pool but I was wrong the guy had to go and wake up 8 chicas in which I did not want him to do but he insisted. They brought there tired ass out and waited for me to make my decision. People would have you believe that these are some kind of super chicas that they can take a dick for a unlimited time but I am here to tell you the chica I picked was good and all but no different in the bed than the chicas that are out and about in the Puerto Plata region. Moral of the story is don't think just because she is working there that she will able to handle everything that you may want her to handle.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1554809]I decided to go and check out field of dreams after a long night with friends and chicas. It was 5am I figured that some girls would be out in the bar or by the pool but I was wrong the guy had to go and wake up 8 chicas in which I did not want him to do but he insisted. They brought there tired ass out and waited for me to make my decision. People would have you believe that these are some kind of super chicas that they can take a dick for a unlimited time but I am here to tell you the chica I picked was good and all but no different in the bed than the chicas that are out and about in the Puerto Plata region. Moral of the story is don't think just because she is working there that she will able to handle everything that you may want her to handle.[/QUOTE]5 am I don't think anyone would be at their best. No disrespect bro

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1554451]That night I was hanging with you and Mr E and I told you about Fannies secret technique and I saw your eyes light up. I was in the mood for some new pussy so when I saw Fannie walking up I placed her next to you and I didn't see her for the next two days LOL.[/QUOTE]My bad dude. But what's a monger brother to do in that situation. But I am solid, I spend time with her every trip I made thereafter.

I hope to run the streets with you again in the near future!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1554978]My bad dude. But what's a monger brother to do in that situation. But I am solid, I spend time with her every trip I made thereafter.

I hope to run the streets with you again in the near future![/QUOTE]That's the way real dudes roll. I knew she was solid and you were solid, so why not pass on my good fortune to a brother? But you still owe me a "solid" after that one.

Day 6 / Wednesday:

Started off at the beach in the early afternoon, after putting in a quick order at Big D's, camped out at Herman's for the afternoon. It would be my lazy day and I had nothing lined up for the day or evening, and that was fine with me. Before I left San Diego, I had a couple of Facebook girls and a couple of Cupid girls lined up for the trip, but none of the girls panned out; no worries. As I was leaving the beach, I decided to buy some of the local art so I purchased a couple of paintings.

The evening was lazy as well. After patrolling the food carts, I found my favorite dish was being served at Rumba. Eating on the sidewalk at Rumba is always entertaining to say the least. So much shit happens on the sidewalk between Rumba and D'Latin. It is a nice place for lunch / dinner, especially if you are a people watcher like myself.

Ended up in D'Latin partying with Asia, Fannie, little'D, and some new girls. I decided I needed Fannie's hands, and more importantly, her talented mouth. So I ended up taking her back to the room for rack operations.

Day 7 / Thursday:

I decided that the last day in Sosua I would spend with my favorite SD girl. Before she arrived, Herman cooked up some steaks, which we enjoyed with some red wine from Chile. I was in the water when SD girl arrived and Herman directed her in my direction. She came close to the water, but the surf was kicking up and she did not want to get her hair wet; like most of the other girls. So we retired to the table and hung out until around six. Herman discussed closing his place down for the summer, or maybe for good for that matter. He has been on the beach for quite a few years; I respect whatever decision he makes.

SD girl and I had a nice time in the pool. After the pool, she reminded me during rack operations why I would be seeing her when I return to Sosua, or maybe take a trip to SD; I doubt that last thought. We had a nice meal at Casa Cayena and I sent her off to work. She wanted to stay the night, but I reminded her that my mom does not allow sleepovers; she understood, I think.

Later while sitting at the door at Rumba, I turn around and there were two girls standing behind me. One of them was fucking hot! I reached back and grabbed her hand, brought her over, and bought her a beer. She was from SD and only 19 years old; I fell in love! I was completely drained out of leche but I had to take my own advice, that I sometimes give other mongers. My advice? Never get on that plane with any regrets! Never have to say or ask,"I should have, I could have, or Why didn't I" statements or questions.

I told her my leche dilemma and she laughed, but I assured her that my tongue was ready to report to duty. I also told her that I would lick her until one of us passed out; she laughed again. She was such a sweetheart in the room and I really enjoyed spending time with her. Plus, the Little Sailor was happy that he wasn't called in for duty because he was just plain fucking tired! It was a great way to end the last night in town.

Final thoughts:

This was my 13th trip in less than 4 years and I watched this place with its ups and downs. Some places are closed while enough places are still open to provide a good assortment of chicas. Friday and Saturday nights were off the hook concerning the number of women that were available. This place still is one of the best values in the world, and also, if you make connections, it is a great place to come back to on a regular basis. I love the women and they seem to love my pesos, so it all kind of works out!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1555211]Day 6 / Wednesday:

Final thoughts:

I love the women and they seem to love my pesos, so it all kind of works out![/QUOTE]Great summary! No delusion / illusion on your side and hence no disappointment or bad mouthing the women either. I am also sure that the girls fall in love with such a kindred soul, in their own ways.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1554809]I decided to go and check out field of dreams after a long night with friends and chicas. It was 5am I figured that some girls would be out in the bar or by the pool but I was wrong the guy had to go and wake up 8 chicas in which I did not want him to do but he insisted. They brought there tired ass out and waited for me to make my decision. People would have you believe that these are some kind of super chicas that they can take a dick for a unlimited time but I am here to tell you the chica I picked was good and all but no different in the bed than the chicas that are out and about in the Puerto Plata region. Moral of the story is don't think just because she is working there that she will able to handle everything that you may want her to handle.[/QUOTE]Just because they look like they can fuck. Doesn't mean they can fuck. Simple shit.

First Day.

Finally got my power adapter and a couple hours to make a report. Back at work and taking a class, so I have been really busy of late. I flew into POP from LAX via United. Flight arrived 30 minutes early. I was meeting my buddy Doc who was flying in from New Mexico. Made it through Customs smoothly. Walked over to the little shop area outside the airport and meet a cat from Detroit. The locals knew him as Chocolate. He visits every 2 or 3 months. When he found out it was my first trip to Sosua he bought me my first Presidente. He bid me good bye to caught his flight back to the states. I exchange $100. 00US and waited for Doc to arrive. When he finally arrived we jumped into a cab and made our way to Casa Cayene.

Short trip, which I thought was great. We get our rooms and I shower and change into shorts. We head out and stop by the exchange at the end of the block and exchange some cash. Off to the beach. We were hungry and I had read about Big D BBQ spot the beach, so we stopped and had lunch and some drinks. Big D was there, so sat down and converses with us while we ate lunch. His BBQ is really good!

After lunch we made our way to Rumbas and had a seat. Doc strikes up a conversation with a PYT and soon he is good to go. She called a girlfriend to come and meet me, but she was taking to long, so I told Doc I would see him back at the hotel and headed down the street to get a manicure, pedicure and 4 handed massage. Went to Karina's place (see the attached flier). She a her assistant spent 2 hours working on me. Left there feeling a like pizza dough, but in a good way. I didn't ask for a happy ending although I am sure it was available. Karina was very nice and as she put it 'professional'. I definitely recommend her services. Headed back to the hotel and got some rest. Wake 2 or 3 hours later and I knock on Doc's door and we headed over to the little restaurant to get some dinner. While we were eating I spy ed this little petite honey out the corner of my eye. She had short dress on and I couldn't help from seeing her big ass on her small body. I call her over and told her I would like ST with her for $1000 pesos. She agreed immediately and said she would wait in the lobby for me. We stay for about and hour and finally headed back to the rooms. I was thing there was no way she would be still waiting. To my surprise, I was wrong. We go my room and do the do. I had picked up a bottle of White Hennessy, which she liked. Little Baby and I click. She spends the night. I gave her $2200 pesos in the morning.

To be continued.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1554809]I decided to go and check out field of dreams after a long night with friends and chicas. It was 5am I figured that some girls would be out in the bar or by the pool but I was wrong the guy had to go and wake up 8 chicas in which I did not want him to do but he insisted. They brought there tired ass out and waited for me to make my decision. People would have you believe that these are some kind of super chicas that they can take a dick for a unlimited time but I am here to tell you the chica I picked was good and all but no different in the bed than the chicas that are out and about in the Puerto Plata region. Moral of the story is don't think just because she is working there that she will able to handle everything that you may want her to handle.[/QUOTE]Dude, you went there are 5 am? That's hilarious. You must have been feeling horny as hell.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1555953]First Day.[/QUOTE]Not a bad way to spend your first day in Sosua. Big D's, massage, and a chica you liked to boot!

First day I have to fight the urge to do a BS happy hour.

Once you learn to be patient the sky is the limit. You can have what ever you desire.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1556160]Not a bad way to spend your first day in Sosua. Big D's, massage, and a chica you liked to boot![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1556160]Not a bad way to spend your first day in Sosua. Big D's, massage, and a chica you liked to boot![/QUOTE]Day 2 & 3.

Yes Tomjackin, it was a good start! Next day woke up and Doc and I had breakfast and then headed to the beach. This time we walked further down the path and happen upon Big Momma's spot. She is a vivacious lady who insisted we sit and have a drink at her spot. Turned out to be a good choice, since she knows all the girls passing by. One just simply does not get pass Big Momma without speaking. Hung out there for a couple of hours and then we headed back into town. Stopped and sat at a place across from Rumba and had some coffee and people watched. A couple of pretty young things stop and chat with us. The one I was interested in looked to be about 19. She was 25. Really cute with pouty lips. Doc make the mistake of starting high and offers 1500 pesos. The girls accepts. Now I am stuck, because now pouty lips is going to want the same. What the hell. Off we go to the room. Back at the room clothes come off and she has a nice thin body. Great performance. I am very happy with my selection. I take a nap. Lil Baby from last night shows up with her cousin Lady. Doc and I take the girl around the corner to this little bar with a pool table. Doc is killing me a first, then little Baby does this little dance and puts a spell on Doc's stick. LOL! He does not win another game. It was all great fun. We headed down into the center of town and sit down and order pizza. Back to the hotel and the girls spend the night.

Wake up the next morning and send Lil Baby on her way. Meet up with Doc for breakfast. He's complaining about Lady leaving after 3 hours. We follow the same routine and head back to the beach to Big Mamma's spot. Hung there for a couple of hours and walk back to Big D's for some BBQ. Doc see a girl he like and heads back to his room. I walk around exploring more of this little town and head back to my room. Just after I enter the hotel 2 girls engage me in conversation. I is humid out. We chat a bit and they asks was I staying here? Yes. They want to know can they take a shower, no sex. I tell them OK. Of course this just a ploy to get in my room. Once out of the shower, one thing leads to another and you pretty much know the outcome. 3000 pesos for both of them. No time to negotiate. It was impromptu fun.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon; 1556348]Day 2 & 3.

It is humid out. We chat a bit and they asks was I staying here? Yes. They want to know can they take a shower, no sex. I tell them OK. Of course this just a ploy to get in my room. Once out of the shower, one thing leads to another and you pretty much know the outcome. 3000 pesos for both of them. No time to negotiate. It was impromptu fun.[/QUOTE]Awesome I am glad things are going well for you.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1556348]Once out of the shower, one thing leads to another and you pretty much know the outcome. 3000 pesos for both of them. No time to negotiate. It was impromptu fun.[/QUOTE]You call it impromptu, I call it a "Why in the hell not" moment.

Nice reporting and photos.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1556348]Just after I enter the hotel 2 girls engage me in conversation. I is humid out. We chat a bit and they asks was I staying here? Yes. They want to know can they take a shower, no sex. I tell them OK. Of course this just a ploy to get in my room. Once out of the shower, one thing leads to another and you pretty much know the outcome. 3000 pesos for both of them. No time to negotiate. It was impromptu fun.[/QUOTE]Oh, but they deceived you. They needed to be taught a lesson. You should have had sex with them and then deducted 3000 pesos for the cost of the showers including a hot water surcharge, use of soap, and towel rental, then thrown them into the street naked!

Seriously, though, it is great to hear of someone visiting Sosua for the very first time, having a totally enjoyable time with the girls, and paying them a reasonable amount for their trouble.

More changes for Sosua beach.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1556624]More changes for Sosua beach.[/QUOTE]Sounds reasonable. I imagine the ban on glass bottles and barbecues does not apply to the beach restaurants.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1556624]More changes for Sosua beach.[/QUOTE]At least working girls are still allowed! Or are they "vendedores ambulantes"?"Animales domesticos"?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1554019]"We go back to Terra Linda and she really looks fine, she bbj, we fuck, and then she says no condom for 500p. I'm in love at this point and she knows it. OK, she gives all.

Finish up and she switches like a robot. I want another 2, 000, she says. Whaaaat? No way!

She says she will not leave until I pay her more. She will wait for policia."

So did you pay? Don't leave us hanging. 500p seems pretty cheap to begin with, that had to throw you a red flag?

Come on Oakie, you are killing me with these mishaps![/QUOTE]Anyway. Here I am stuck in my hotel room with robot chica refusing to leave unless I pay her 2, 000 more than agreed.

Call reception and tell them to send security. He says no security, I should call policia. I say OK. But I tell her police are coming. She says bien, you pay more than 2, 000 when police come.

I go for a smoke on the balcony, and after 5 minutes she says, OK. 1,000. I say fuck you, let's see what policia say.

Another couple minutes and she says you give me 500. Now I'm a little more relaxed, I shake my head. A couple more minutes the phone rings, reception, you ok? I put my hand over the phone, tell her security is coming and I'll give her 200 to go before they come. She takes it, and I "escort her off the premises". Her name, she said, was Flora.

So here I thought I was king of Sosua for a couple of days, and I've been scammed twice already! I've only recently been posting that I never had a problem in 5 years here.

On reflection, it is precisely because I changed my game this time from GFE to point and click. See a perfect body? How much? Let's go! LOL.

So now I'm back on the strip trying to locate a chica that used to hang with LP and me. Her name was Vanessa, and for the two days she spent with us her eyes promised much, but LP wouldn't even consider a little party for the three of us.

So I'm having a beer with a buddy on the strip, and saying grasias no to the constant stream of passing chicas, I hear my name called, I don't even look, I wave my hand, Grasias no!

The voice is persistent, so I finally look over, and it's LP, my ex. We look at each other after two years for our reactions. We did a lot together, and I'm glad to see her so we hug. She says una momento, and goes to the taxi by the curb and pulls out her suitcase and bags. Fuck!

She explains she has come 10 hours mostly by bus to see me, and wasn't sure of my reaction. She's looking fine, even though she's been on the road since 4 am, so it's beer all around and we catch up. I'm happy, and she's in heaven!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1556849]Anyway. Here I am stuck in my hotel room with robot chica refusing to leave unless I pay her 2, 000 more than agreed.

Call reception and tell them to send security. He says no security, I should call policia. I say OK. But I tell her police are coming. She says bien, you pay more than 2, 000 when police come.

I go for a smoke on the balcony, and after 5 minutes she says, OK. 1,000. I say fuck you, let's see what policia say.

Another couple minutes and she says you give me 500. Now I'm a little more relaxed, I shake my head. A couple more minutes the phone rings, reception, you ok? I put my hand over the phone, tell her security is coming and I'll give her 200 to go before they come. She takes it, and I "escort her off the premises". Her name, she said, was Flora.

So here I thought I was king of Sosua for a couple of days, and I've been scammed twice already! I've only recently been posting that I never had a problem in 5 years here.

On reflection, it is precisely because I changed my game this time from GFE to point and click. See a perfect body? How much? Let's go! LOL.

So now I'm back on the strip trying to locate a chica that used to hang with LP and me. Her name was Vanessa, and for the two days she spent with us her eyes promised much, but LP wouldn't even consider a little party for the three of us.

So I'm having a beer with a buddy on the strip, and saying grasias no to the constant stream of passing chicas, I hear my name called, I don't even look, I wave my hand, Grasias no!

The voice is persistent, so I finally look over, and it's LP, my ex. We look at each other after two years for our reactions. We did a lot together, and I'm glad to see her so we hug. She says una momento, and goes to the taxi by the curb and pulls out her suitcase and bags. Fuck!

She explains she has come 10 hours mostly by bus to see me, and wasn't sure of my reaction. She's looking fine, even though she's been on the road since 4 am, so it's beer all around and we catch up. I'm happy, and she's in heaven![/QUOTE]Before you know it she will be wanting to take a shower.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1556849]The voice is persistent, so I finally look over, and it's LP, my ex. We look at each other after two years for our reactions. We did a lot together, and I'm glad to see her so we hug. She says una momento, and goes to the taxi by the curb and pulls out her suitcase and bags. Fuck!

She explains she has come 10 hours mostly by bus to see me, and wasn't sure of my reaction. She's looking fine, even though she's been on the road since 4 am, so it's beer all around and we catch up. I'm happy, and she's in heaven![/QUOTE]LOL, you didn't have me fooled for one minute that the main purpose this trip wasn't to reconnect with her. You probably put out an APB for her the minute you landed at POP!

Just don't say we never tried to warn you bro.

day 4.

wake up and head over to restaurant and grab some coffee. my neighbor ask me did i hear all the noise this morning. nope, i slept like a baby. it seems the russians have invaded casa cayene. they did'nt bother me, but then again i am across the pool from their rooms. later on about 2:00pm a group of russian guys from new york are out in the pool area partying like there is a no tomorrow. bottles of patron, grey goose and of course vodka. they have a box of cohiba cigars and ask if i would like one? sure why not. these guys are running the girls in and out. doc and i left and head back to big d's for some more bbq. fast forward to the evening. get an email from tomjackin letting me know he in town and staying here. both tomjackin and mr. e pm ed to let me know they would be in town and we should meet for drinks.

doc and i are sitting in the restaurant having dinner and in walks tomjackin. he sits with us and we chop it up. tomjackin gets a call from mr. e. tomjackin tell him to get his ass over here asap. mr e. is in puerto plata. he arrives in about 40 minutes. mr. e will only be in the country for 48 hours, yet he has already been to santiago, puerto plata and sousa. he is headed to santo dominguez in the morning at 6:00am. man that's what i call a rolling stone. lil baby and lady show up and i buy them a presidente and tell her to come back to my room at 1:00am. off they go. we sit and talk some more and finally decide to head to rumba. on the way we see lil baby heading our way with a guy. she crosses the street to avoid me. no worries, i am under no illusions about what she does nor do i judge her. in fact i thank god for her and women like her. she and her children had to eat before i arrived and they will need to eat long after i am gone.

we get to rumba. tomjackin is good friends with the bouncer who quickly secures a table for us near the front door. great location as it allow you to view a the talent from a ring side seat. several ladies come by to say hello to tomjackin, which he proceeds to introduce to us. they all have friends. mr e comments that he a has never seen so many women in rumba before. after a while we move to d'latins, which is really packed and is twice the size of rumba. doc decides to peel off with a little honey he spent time with a couple of days ago. mr. e is interviewing prospects for the night. while moving over to rumba a chocolate honey with a big booty from puerto plata catches my attention. after rubbing up against the right places my decision is made. i negotiate for the night. mr e and tomjackin have their picks for the night. mr. e and i along the girls head to our room. i believe mr. e got a spot for the night across the street from casa ceyene. i see lil baby up the street jump on a motor scooter and jet off. hope she is not too upset. we get to my room and she takes a shower. she comes out and i notice a big scar across her stomach. body not so hot. it is amazing how some girls pick just the right clothes to accent what they have. consumming alcohol and low lights help them sale it. she turns out the lights, which is a first for me in any country. now i am thinking this little encounter is not going so well. we do our thing, but she is complaining about this or that. i shoot my load and after a while i tell her she can go. she doesn't appear happy about my decision. she slowly dresses and i hand her 1500 pesos and walk her to security and out she goes. i step out my back door by the pool and see tomjackin and his girl in the pool. he calls me over. we sit and talk. i express that my girl was a dud. he tell me to shake it off. you never know unless you try. (life is like a box of chocolate) he is right and i always try to live by that motto. we agree to meet on the beach at herman tomorrow afternoon. off to sleep.

random photos in sosua

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1556912]We get to my room and she takes a shower. She comes out and I notice a big scar across her stomach. Body not so hot. It is amazing how some girls pick just the right clothes to accent what they have. Consuming alcohol and low lights help them sale it.[/QUOTE]Not really amazing, it is just Business 101. The girls who have bare midriffs want to show off their flat bellies and the ones who have it covered up are most likely hiding stretch marks and Caesarian scars. Alcohol (beer goggles) , low lights and facial makeup make everything look a lot better than in the light of day.

However if you find yourself in that situation, it is better, perhaps, to lower the lights and make it all much more of a tactile experience than a visual one. The girl with the belly scar may still have refined amatory skills if given encouragement and the chance to please. This is what married guys have to do for years.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1556878]LOL, you didn't have me fooled for one minute that the main purpose this trip wasn't to reconnect with her. You probably put out an APB for her the minute you landed at POP!

Just don't say we never tried to warn you bro.[/QUOTE]You know me so well, have we met? LOL.

But, but, but, I really had written her off and moved on. I wanted to re-connect with Sosua, not her.

Trouble is, everywhere I went the last two trips, they were asking, where's LP? The bar chicas were texting her constantly keeping her up to date with my doings, and the chicas I was leaving with. The phone I brought for the other chica was a big conversation piece, LP even knew is was an Alcatel.

Later, over breakfast she told me her version of past events, which fitted my theory perfectly. My connections confirmed she hadn't been in Sosua since I left, so unless Coolie got to San Pedro de Maguena, at least he wasn't fucking her! LOL.

She moved in (note, no extra charge at the Terra Linda except for her breakfast) and we had a blast.

Oh, and that Vanessa chica I'd tried to find? We were over at the Orange, and she came out to greet us from the M & M massage place. (Timing is everything).

Try as I might LP wouldn't go for a threesome. Who says they'll do anything for pesos?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1556930]Try as I might LP wouldn't go for a threesome. Who says they'll do anything for pesos?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Possible reasons for refusing a threesome in approximate order of probability would be:

1) She does not want to see you spending money on any other chica that you could spend on her.

2) She is jealous and does not want to see you have sex with other chica*

3) She finds the idea of chica / chica sex disgusting or at least scary if she has never done it.

4) She is playing long game and does not want pesos, but a visa.

In any case, if she is not into the threesome for reasons of sexual arousal, it really is not worth paying 1000 pesos, let alone a visa for it.

* Let's turn it around. How about a threesome with you, me, and LP. I fuck her and you watch. How much would you pay for this? Nothing! Am I right?

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1556849]Anyway. Here I am stuck in my hotel room with robot chica refusing to leave unless I pay her 2, 000 more than agreed.

Call reception and tell them to send security. He says no security, I should call policia. I say OK. But I tell her police are coming. She says bien, you pay more than 2, 000 when police come.

I go for a smoke on the balcony, and after 5 minutes she says, OK. 1,000. I say fuck you, let's see what policia say.

Another couple minutes and she says you give me 500. Now I'm a little more relaxed, I shake my head. A couple more minutes the phone rings, reception, you ok? I put my hand over the phone, tell her security is coming and I'll give her 200 to go before they come. She takes it, and I "escort her off the premises". Her name, she said, was Flora.[/QUOTE]Well played Oakie!

Day 5 & 6.

Woke up and go and check on Doc. He is already up and packed. He is heading home today. We head to breakfast. After breakfast he ask the girl at the front desk to have the driver here by 1:00PM. We sit in the pool area and just relax. 1:00pm rolls around and Doc gathers his things and I walk him out the the van. I bid my friend good bye tell him, 'I'll see you next time'. We have been traveling together to different locations for the last 18 years. He is a little crazy, but aren't we all? Highly intelligent brother, who is actually a emergency room physician. I would roll with him anywhere.

Time to head over to Herman spot at the beach and meet Tomjackin. Herman spot is 145, I believe. I find them and sit down and order a drink. Herman is cooking steaks for himself, Tomjackin and another friend. Early in the week I noticed an Asia food place on the beach. First time I have seen that. Tomjackin suggest I order the Herman special chicken and noodle dish. I request it from Alex, which is the girl who runs Herman spot. I also order a dozen fresh oysters from one of the venders walking by. Oysters were great as was the Herman special. It's Sunday and being such the beach is teaming with locals and their family. The place is so a live! It feels like there is electricity in the air. I love it. Girls everywhere. I noted someone a couple of post back displayed a sign about no bottles being allowed on the beach. Well I don't think they are getting the message, since I saw at least 4 people with 5th s of whiskey in hand. One girl was walking pass and turned the bottle straight up. I wish I had took a picture. I paid and thanked Herman, Alex for there service and bid a good bye to Tomjackin. I made my way back to the hotel.

I kicked back in my room a while. Went out back on the patio and lit up my Cohida. Little Baby is by the pool gauging the interest of some new arrivals. She see me and comes over and promptly sits on my lap. I like this girl. She has a good heart. I neglected to mention on the night when we went to eat pizza it started rain. I mean the sky just opened up and rain came down in buckets. There was this homeless girl standing outside the restaurant crying and clearly in distress. Little Baby knew her and goes over to check on her and console her. We finished eating and there is some pizza left. She has the waiter wrap it up and give it to the homeless girl. Last night is history. We go inside and I dug through my duffel bag and pull out a g string bikini and give it to her. It took her 2 second to get out of her clothes and puts it on. Perfect size. She is all smiles! We go and get in the pool. Shortly her cousin Lady and another friend show up. I order beers for us all and proceed to enjoy the rest of the day. Little Baby and I eat dinner in the restaurant and she again spends the night.

Wake up around 10:00AM. Little Baby says she has to go. I get her contact info. Phone, email facebook and let her know we will keep in touch. She kisses me and off she goes. I head to breakfast for the last time this trip. After that I request a driver for 12:30. I get packed and head back to the states. I have a layover in Houston for 12 hours, where I will get a chance to visit with my sister.

A may have deducted, I had a great time my first trip to Sosua! It was really great to meet and hang out with Tomjackin and Mr. E. Both have and do travel extensively and have a wealth of knowledge to share. Thank you both for reaching out and letting me know you would be in town. I'll be heading back to Sosua in September. Another good friend of mines G, who was scheduled to come down couldn't make it. It will be his 50th birthday and I already got my ticket. By the way. For you guy flying from the west coast, you might want to consider using Copa Air. They only fly into Santiago, but they are a good airline. I flew with them to Medellin a few years ago and I was impressed with their service. Cost is $452. 00 round trip. They go through Panama. I want to spend a couple of days in Santiago next time, so it works for me. Yes, I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to this little paradise called Sosua. Until next time gentlemen.

RR

Just wanted to say I enjoyed reading your report. I fly out this week and hope to have as much fun as you!

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1556965]Yes, I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to this little paradise called Sosua. Until next time gentlemen.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there will be a next time. It is always great to meet a laid back, non stressed out monger like yourself.

Take care RonnyRon

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1556930]Try as I might LP wouldn't go for a threesome. Who says they'll do anything for pesos?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]It wouldn't have mattered, Terra Linda doesn't allow two girls in the same room, I've tried. I even tried to bribe the Haitian night watchman and nothing doing.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1556946]Possible reasons for refusing a threesome in approximate order of probability would be:

1) She does not want to see you spending money on any other chica that you could spend on her.

2) She is jealous and does not want to see you have sex with other chica*

3) She finds the idea of chica / chica sex disgusting or at least scary if she has never done it.

4) She is playing long game and does not want pesos, but a visa.

In any case, if she is not into the threesome for reasons of sexual arousal, it really is not worth paying 1000 pesos, let alone a visa for it.

* Let's turn it around. How about a threesome with you, me, and LP. I fuck her and you watch. How much would you pay for this? Nothing! Am I right?[/QUOTE]I think you hit it with number three, but here's the thing. We're lying in bed. She swears she has no esposo or novio in San Juan de Mageuna so I ask her what she does for sex. She smiles and rubs her pussy. Every day, I ask? Si, every day I watch TV.

Porno, I ask? No, she says, just TV.

Well, here goes, I get on the Internet and show her some porno trailers, lesbian. She's interested. Which one? She points to a black chick with a blonde, so I let it run. Half an hour later, she has come twice, and I got off watching her.

This was before I tried again to set us up with Vanessa, but she was adamant.

I'll leave the psychology to you, Frannie.

Maybe if I found a NA blonde for her?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1556990]It wouldn't have mattered, Terra Linda doesn't allow two girls in the same room, I've tried. I even tried to bribe the Haitian night watchman and nothing doing.[/QUOTE]LOL, finding a room to do the deed would be the least of my problems!

A note for the newbies. They don't charge extra for the chica, and once they have her cedula, she's free to come and go just like a registered guest.

As an aside on the pizza debate, I am a pizza freak, and I've sampled it all over Sosua. And by far the best comes from the wood fired brick ovens at the Terra Linda.

They use real pepperoni, not that salami shit, and we ordered two regular size that could feed an army. (we finished up taking the leftovers down to the strip for the bar chicas and motoconcho guys). Definitely the best pizaa I ever ate, anywhere!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1556952]Well played Oakie![/QUOTE]It finished up costing me 2, 000, plus 500 for the bb, and the 200 I paid just to get her out of there. 2,700 in all.

Funny thing is, while she was performing, she did give it all, and I couldn't have asked for better ST sex.

I think she knew just how much I enjoyed her, and that was her entre to hold me up for more.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon; 1556965]Day 5 & 6.

You might want to consider using Copa Air. They only fly into Santiago, but they are a good airline. I flew with them to Medellin a few years ago and I was impressed with their service. Cost is $452. 00 round trip. They go through Panama. I want to spend a couple of days in Santiago next time, so it works for me. Yes, I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to this little paradise called Sosua. Until next time gentlemen.

RR[/QUOTE]Whats going on RR. I started traveling based on you and another member years ago. Bestmate. Only been to Thailand and Philippines but been going to Thailand every year sense 2003. I have never been to DR and would like to check it out as it is a lot closer. I'm in the SF bay area. I like the way you vacation. Nice and smooth. Can you give me a one week plan for Sosua from the bay area. Airline, hotels, eating spots, girl spots / prices. I'm not trying to spend a grip but I'm not no cheap chalie either. LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1557234]As an aside on the pizza debate, I am a pizza freak, and I've sampled it all over Sosua. And by far the best comes from the wood fired brick ovens at the Terra Linda.[/QUOTE]I will not debate you because I have not tried the pizza at Terra Linda, but I will try the pizza because of your recommendation.

But have you tried the pizza across the street at Movida?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1557345]I will not debate you because I have not tried the pizza at Terra Linda, but I will try the pizza because of your recommendation.

But have you tried the pizza across the street at Movida?[/QUOTE]If it's the place across the street from terra Linda, we ate there my first night. It was OK, but you must try the Terra. They have a couple dozen specials on their menu, but they'll make one up for you. I had the Pepperoni, with extra sliced tomatoes. Awesome. Same price as New York Pizza, I think, but the terrace room is a world away from that cramped little shop.

Sosua, great women, cold beer, and great pizza. What more could a guy want?

[QUOTE=Oakie;1557234]As an aside on the pizza debate, I am a pizza freak, and I've sampled it all over Sosua. And by far the best comes from the wood fired brick ovens at the Terra Linda.[/QUOTE]Did the Scotch N Sirloin restaurant at TL get replaced with Uno Pizza? Just something I thought I noticed.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1557417]Did the Scotch N Sirloin restaurant at TL get replaced with Uno Pizza? Just something I thought I noticed.[/QUOTE]Same restaurant, just that they've added the wood fired brick ovens for the pizza.

5 years ago you could get good home made food off the street for a few pesos, but now it seems all the locals get their food from restaurants. They're all eating from styrofoam containers these days.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1557369]If it's the place across the street from terra Linda, we ate there my first night. It was OK, but you must try the Terra. They have a couple dozen specials on their menu, but they'll make one up for you. I had the Pepperoni, with extra sliced tomatoes. Awesome. Same price as New York Pizza, I think, but the terrace room is a world away from that cramped little shop.

Sosua, great women, cold beer, and great pizza. What more could a guy want?[/QUOTE]One pizza place NOT to eat at is a place on a side street between dlatin and winners. Its two doors down from the spot. Its owned by italians I think. I bought a cheese pizza and me and a tout I know ate it. We both had runs the next day. My stmoach was fucked up all day the next day. His was too. He said on his motochoncho ride home he had to to stop at the hospital and take a shit LOL. Don't eat there!

I'll need to exchange money next week in Sosua for the first time. My research says that the Western Union or Banco Popular are good places to do that. Any better suggestions?

In Santo Domingo, one of the best places on El Conde is Franks. In fact, I don't go anywhere else. Where is "the Franks" in Sosua?

The great reporting and things going on. Enjoyed reading.

Just a brief update on my efforts to secure my fee less Charles Schwab debit card. I opened my accounts (brokerage and checking accounts) on 4/7/14. Everything done online. After Charles Schwabs made and cleared 2 small deposits into my bank, I was able to fund my CS brokerage account (from my linked primary bank BOA) on 4/10/14. However, I had to wait until 4/15 in order to transfer those funds from the brokerage account into my CS checking account. Received my debit card today 4/21. Activated it, and subsequently notified CS of my future travel plans. Card can now be used. That process took 2 weeks. My checks should arrive any day now.

In the future if I need to put more money into my CS checking account I need to plan ahead. Because it seems to take 3 days for a transfer to appear from your linked primary bank into your brokerage account, and then another 5 days for a transfer to appear (from the brokerage account) into the CS checking account. A rep advised me (on the phone) that there is a $1, 000 US limit per day on ATM withdrawals and a $15, 000 US limit on purchases. It was a long process, but think this will be well worth it. Don't forget, this is online banking. But I must say CS customer service has been excellent thus far.

Hope this helps those who may have been interested in Charles Schwab, especially in getting a fee less debit card.

[QUOTE=StripperMan; 1557707]I'll need to exchange money next week in Sosua for the first time. My research says that the Western Union or Banco Popular are good places to do that. Any better suggestions?

In Santo Domingo, one of the best places on El Conde is Franks. In fact, I don't go anywhere else. Where is "the Franks" in Sosua?[/QUOTE]IMO the best rate in Sosua can be had at Banco Providencial on Pedro Clisante. It is on the same street as Maui Mau restaurant, the small supermercado, the small farmacia. Its also diagonally across the street from Sinatras restaurant (formerly PJ's). This is where many of the street change guys go. They will have the best rate in town. The exchange guys go there, get the best rate then offer a lower rate on the street.

One drawback is I think they cator to the change guys moreso. A few times I have gone to exchange only to be told to come back later in the day. Or if you attempt to exchange lets say $1, 000 us they may tell you they can exchange less. So I always attempt a larger exchange just in case they do that. Aside from those gliches their rate will usually beat out any other place around. Bring your passport.

The exchange place next door to M&M massage in the plaza where the Orange store is, they come in 2nd as far as rates go. Sometimes there can be a small line stretching outside usually with exchange guys anxious to get in and out. Keep your place in line. Great rates and sometimes no passport was needed. Plus I never had a problem with how much I could exchange. Bring your passport just in case.

Next in terms of rates maybe Western Union. That is located on the street behind Sinatras restaurant. My favorite mobile exchange guy is Mapello. He has rates comparable to Western Union and definitely better than any exchange guy in the street. The best part is he will come to you. You can be at the beach in Sosua, but not at liberty to leave to exchange money. You call Mapello tell him where you are (give him the business address or name) and within a few minutes he'll be there. I exchanged $1, 000 us on the beach once without having to leave my seat. No passport required. His number is 809 490 3024. He is a very respected gentleman In the area, probably in his 50's or early 60's. Nobody bothers him even though he is known by the locals to carry a shitload of currency on his person.

My understanding is many of the local banks offer competitive rates inside of the bank as well. But the lines can be long and the tellers may be very slow. Definitely bring your passport. In terms of fast service and good rates, the exchange place in the Orange plaza and next door to M & M massage wins. In terms of the best rate, but sometimes flaky service hours and flaky when it comes to large exchanges, banco Providencial wins. I usually go there 1st. If they tell me to come back a certain time I may come back or go around the block to the spot by M & M massage.

Another option is the Playero supermercado on the main road. Their rates are decent but not as good as the other places I mentioned. You better bring your passport. I made a few copies of my passport. Next time I exchange somewhere that requires my passport, I am going to offer the copy and keep the passport in my pocket and see what happens.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1557985]IMO

The exchange place next door to M&M massage in the plaza where the Orange store is, they come in 2nd as far as rates go. Sometimes there can be a small line stretching outside usually with exchange guys anxious to get in and out. Keep your place in line. Great rates and sometimes no passport was needed. Plus I never had a problem with how much I could exchange. Bring your passport just in case.

In terms of fast service and good rates, the exchange place in the Orange plaza and next door to M & M massage wins.

I have never been asked for my passport here, only drawback is that the place I believe is closed on the weekends.

For all the guys that have been around many chicas from the DR know that a lot of them are very curios to the stuff you have with you and do not mind using stuff like your hair brush to comb there hair. Which does not really bother me but I suggest that all mongers put that shit away. I had a chica on this trip use my tooth brush for who only knows what because in the morning time I went to use and it had a big o black hair entangled in the end. Defiantly no mistake it was put there. I know I always try to keep in good with even the bad performers if possible. This can happen to anyone who allows it to. Like me

[quote=Wrx2005; 1557985]. My favorite mobile exchange guy is Mapello. He has rates comparable to Western Union and definitely better than any exchange guy in the street. The best part is he will come to you. You can be at the beach in Sosua, but not at liberty to leave to exchange money. You call Mapello tell him where you are (give him the business address or name) and within a few minutes he'll be there. I exchanged $1, 000 us on the beach once without having to leave my seat. No passport required. His number is 809 490 3024. He is a very respected gentleman In the area, probably in his 50's or early 60's. Nobody bothers him even though he is known by the locals to carry a shitload of currency on his person.[/quote]I concur with everything you said about Mopello. However, I have his number as 809-491-3024. Not sure which is correct.

[QUOTE=PhillyJ50;1558224]I concur with everything you said about Mopello. However, I have his number as 809-491-3024. Not sure which is correct.[/QUOTE]That was my problem back in February. I had a number for him in my phone. I was advised my number then was wrong. The person called him and then I updated to the number he had. Have you used your number to contact him?

[QUOTE=Grub1;1558162]I had a chica on this trip use my tooth brush for who only knows what because in the morning time I went to use and it had a big o black hair entangled in the end.[/QUOTE]You were lucky. Usng a toothbrush which a chica has previously used for "combing" her pubic hair and armpits will help you build up resistance to local infections.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1558415]You were lucky. Usng a toothbrush which a chica has previously used for "combing" her pubic hair and armpits will help you build up resistance to local infections.[/QUOTE]What about gargling with the chica's douche water!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1558415]her pubic hair and armpits will help you build up resistance to local infections.[/QUOTE]Pubic hair also comes in handy if you run out of dental floss; so I heard.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1558659]Pubic hair also comes in handy if you run out of dental floss; so I heard.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I seem to remember pubic hair.

What ever happened to it?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1558415]You were lucky. Usng a toothbrush which a chica has previously used for "combing" her pubic hair and armpits will help you build up resistance to local infections.[/QUOTE]I don't think you could find a puta with single pubic hair in all of Sosua if someone paid you a million dollars.

[QUOTE=Long91;1557289]Whats going on RR. I started traveling based on you and another member years ago. Bestmate. Only been to Thailand and Philippines but been going to Thailand every year sense 2003. I have never been to DR and would like to check it out as it is a lot closer. I'm in the SF bay area. I like the way you vacation. Nice and smooth. Can you give me a one week plan for Sosua from the bay area. Airline, hotels, eating spots, girl spots / prices. I'm not trying to spend a grip but I'm not no cheap chalie either. LOL.[/QUOTE]Long91,

2K will just about cover everything. Flights are about $600 and room for a week about $400. The rest is party money. Enjoy! PM me for more info.

RonnyRon

[QUOTE=Houba; 1558788]You are right, that's what I did last night. Probably something like 200 chicas between Rumba and DLatin.

Maybe 10 were stunningly beautiful.

My goodness.

I return tonight.[/QUOTE]Glad you are off to a good start. (Obviously you are unaware of what so many knowledgeable posters are telling us: "Sosua is dead, Sosua is finished, not worth visiting, etc, etc")

[QUOTE=Houba; 1558788]Ended up with one of them for a very hot session in a hotel across the street.[/QUOTE]Am I correct in thinking the "hotel across the street" was the short-term room above Bar Central? If that worked for you, then fine, but for a couple hundred pesos more you could use the cabana "Dulce Secreto" which you might find more comfortable. Cabanas are like motels renting for 2 to 4 hours specifically for brief sexual encounters.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1558805]I don't think you could find a puta with single pubic hair in all of Sosua if someone paid you a million dollars.[/QUOTE]You can find tons of pubes. Some are shaved bald, some are trimmed short, and some have the full set. I would like to claim your million dollars. It would take me five minutes.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1559020]You can find tons of pubes. Some are shaved bald, some are trimmed short, and some have the full set. I would like to claim your million dollars. It would take me five minutes.[/QUOTE]Pubic hair may be rarer among Dominican full-time working girls, but once you deal with non-pros and semi-pros, and especially with haitianas, it is not uncommon.

One ex-pat is offering a free shaving service to Sosua chicas and is doing steady business, all photographically recorded, but he cannot keep up with the steady trickle of new talent so he will have no impact on the overall picture.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1558805]I don't think you could find a puta with single pubic hair in all of Sosua if someone paid you a million dollars.[/QUOTE]Manizales911,

I'm quoting because oddly enough my first ever Sosua chica I pulled tonight had Bush. But I'll get to that in a second.

I checked out if BB today and was a little sad to leave as I had gotten comfortable in that setting, but I was getting bored. I had met 4 other guys there who were checking out today and going to Sosua as well. A couple of Jamaican guys and and English mate. They knew nothing of the forum but 1 of them did have a previous trip under his belt. He kept telling his friends if Blackbeards is like the zoo we are about to go to the jungle with Sosua. After my first night I would say that's pretty accurate, not that it's bad but you just need to be much more aware of your surroundings that BB. I should also probably mention I know about 10 Spanish words total and had zero problems at BB.

I took a taxi over from BB (1700 pesos) and arrived at Rocky's. There was a slight communication problem with my reservation. I'm not placing blame, it was probably my fault. I thought I was staying at Sosua suites, he had me down for mary rose. Both places were fully booked so no worries, I'll make it work and rick seems like a good guy. I actually really like mary rose and the security I just wanted the proximity of sosua suites.

It's about 5pm and I walk around to check things out and get some dinner. It's already starting to pick up and the chicas are aggressive. I'll be damn, you tell them maybe later and they still remember your ass 5 hours later. I find Rocky's and have to try the ribs that everybody talks about. They were pretty good, I ate in peace and enjoyed the scenery of the chicas going in and out of the hair place next door. I finish up and decide to walk the strip some more. I check out rumbas and it was already kind if overwhelming. Oh what's with the pizza place next to the latins? There were some sexy mamis in there working and having fun dancing, I need to look into this more. I decide to go home and take a nap and debate not even going out.

It's my first night, who am I kidding, I can't stay at home. I rest for a bit and hop on a motor cycle taxi (Jesus I make note not to do this if I'm drunk). There's this fancy disco place across the street from rumbas. I grabbed a grande presdiente there and sat outside for about an hour and people watched. I decide to head in to rumbas. My plan was to look for a nice hatian girl with a nice smile for my first time after what I read here I thought it would be a safe choice. There are so many beautiful women here of all types, it's crazy. But I was trying to stay away from the over the top hair, nails, make up done up types just being so green and no Spanish I didn't want any problems. I run into the mates from BB and feel a little better having some wing men. It was short lived though as we finish are beer and head to the latins. I buy a round there and we make a lap. I see this short little cutie I had seen early across the street earlier and said maybe later to. She saw me and jumped in my arms, I liked her, her beauty was simple and she was dressed cute but not over the top. I start to talk price, I swear she said 500 una hora. I thought that seemed very low and my Spanish is so bad I wanted to make sure I understood. I think if I spoke Spanish 500 would of been the price. I asked twice and she typed "1005" in her phone, LOL the 5 threw me, I typed in "1000" and she said si.

I picked a good one, we arrive back at Mary Rose. She is very GFE, lots of kissing, BBBJ. 69, cfs and yes a little Bush. This girl worked damn hard, I had my vitamine V but she kept asking for una mas freaky freaky. She stayed for about 3 hours and I enjoyed her company. But I had to fake it round 3 and probably shouldn't even attempted anyway. She kept saying she would stay no problem but she has baby at home, which was fine I kind of wanted to sleep alone tonight anyway. She showers and is ready to leave. She doesn't say anything about money, I give her $1250 rolled up, she deserved more but I didn't have change. She didn't even look at it, just put it in her purse. I walked her and I'm in need of a good night sleep.

I can never get pics to upload from my phone so those will have to wait. Oh and I did want to mention right across the street from mary rose this guy who had been around, from Toronto but has lived in Sosua for 20 years opened his own little street bar. It's tiny, maybe 8 bar stools and one big booth but he's and good guy and knowledgeable. He had some of the cheapest drink prices I've seen in sosua so far, he wants to add a simple food menu and serve until late in the night. That would be great because there isn't much down here late. Check him out, I hope he makes it.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1559209]I checked out if BB today and was a little sad to leave as I had gotten comfortable in that setting, but I was getting bored. I had met 4 other guys there who were checking out today and going to Sosua as well.[/QUOTE]So which gets your vote, Sosua or BB?

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1559209]I think if I spoke Spanish 500 would of been the price. I asked twice and she typed "1005" in her phone, LOL the 5 threw me, I typed in "1000" and she said si. She stayed for about 3 hours and I enjoyed her company. But I had to fake it round 3 and probably shouldn't even attempted anyway. She showers and is ready to leave. She doesn't say anything about money, I give her $1250 rolled up, she deserved more but I didn't have change.[/QUOTE]How much more did she deserve?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1559307]So which gets your vote, Sosua or BB?

I have to say Sosua pretty easily for me. I still think BB for a couple days is a good idea for a first timer, especially if you're traveling alone. I think it also depends on the guy, I've said I speak very little Spanish, but if the chica is sexy I will dam sure try. Some seem to enjoy it, like a game, trying to communicate. I've met a couple guys that spoke no Spanish and were pretty timid, lucky for them they did have an experienced monger with them that spoke Spanish, if they came alone I would say BB for sure for them.

How much more did she deserve?[/QUOTE]I probably would of gave her 1500 pesos total if I had change, but she seemed happy and wants to see me again so I'm worried about it. But I guess thinking about it now, if 500 truly was her original request, not sure, then 1250 was generous. There are some scammers here, but there also are some that go out of their way to make sure you are happy and pleased. I try to reward that, but have tried not to be a fool about it.

Mr. E, I know you have a ton of experience. How much do you think it would cost a chica to get from PP to Sosua on public transportation? The BB chica I liked wants to come stay with me, said she would have to pay 1000 peso to miss work though. I need to find out how much she expects on top of that. I'm still not sure if I'm going to do it, but I did enjoy her and I'm thinking maybe at the end of my trip when I'm tired of the sport fucking.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1559307]So which gets your vote, Sosua or BB?

How much more did she deserve?[/QUOTE]Depends on the hunter searching for the thrill of the hunt in the wild or on a game preserve?

[QUOTE=Grub1;1558162]For all the guys that have been around many chicas from the DR know that a lot of them are very curios to the stuff you have with you and do not mind using stuff like your hair brush to comb there hair. Which does not really bother me but I suggest that all mongers put that shit away. I had a chica on this trip use my tooth brush for who only knows what because in the morning time I went to use and it had a big o black hair entangled in the end. Defiantly no mistake it was put there. I know I always try to keep in good with even the bad performers if possible. This can happen to anyone who allows it to. Like me[/QUOTE]My restaurant chica spent the night last night. In the morning she closed the door to the bathroom. A few minutes later I hear toothbrushing sounds and gargling. When I went in there, my toothbrush was wet. Yep, she used my toothbrush to brush her teeth. I had bought a few before, so I gave her her own, and a baggie so she can keep it in.

[QUOTE=PhillyJ50;1558224]I concur with everything you said about Mopello. However, I have his number as 809-491-3024. Not sure which is correct.[/QUOTE]You are correct Mapello's number is (809) 491-3024. Saw him at the exchange place next to M&M massage this morning. He lives there it seems. I asked him to verify the spelling of his name. M A P E L L O, is correct according to him.

BTW, I went to Banco Providential earlier this morning, they told me to come back at 2:00 or 2:30pm. Someone else confirmed that they usually cater to the exchange guys 1st, before anybody else. The rate they had posted for US was 43. 17. Down from 43. 52 that I got back in late February. The exchange place by Orange was 43. 05.
Since I didnt feel like waiting or being told they could only exchange a smaller amount, I exchanged 3k in US cash with the place by Orange with no problem or hesitation whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1551521]That is an option. Question though. If I am correct you live in the DR fulltime? Do you have funds directly deposited to your SB account from outside the country? Or do you make all of the deposits into your SB account yourself?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1551421]I did with ScotiaBank, no fees for withdrawals. A checking account is a different matter, expensive to use[/QUOTE]FYI for anybody; Went to Scotia Bank today to open a savings account. They gave me a form explaining what the criterior is for a non resident.

1) Need a passport.

2) Your drivers license or some other form of I'd.

3) A reference letter from your bank in the states addressed to Scotia Bank (they need to know you for at least 2 years ).

4) And lastly, a reference letter from your landlord in the DR addressed to Scotia Bank.

I have not tried any other banks, so I do not know any other banks policy for opening an account when one is a non resident.

Will probably check out another bank next week.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1559209]There are so many beautiful women here of all types, it's crazy. But I was trying to stay away from the over the top hair, nails, make up done up types just being so green and no Spanish I didn't want any problems.[/QUOTE]I think that is a very smart move on your part.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1559389]You are correct Mapello's number is (809) 491-3024. Saw him at the exchange place next to M&M massage this morning. He lives there it seems. I asked him to verify the spelling of his name. M A P E L L O, is correct according to him.[/QUOTE]That's the same place I exchange my money when I'm in Sosua. I haven't found a better rate; it beats the "Big Playero", Western Union, Banco Popular, and definitely any money exchange person on the street.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1559209]My plan was to look for a nice hatian girl with a nice smile for my first time after what I read here I thought it would be a safe choice. There are so many beautiful women here of all types, it's crazy. But I was trying to stay away from the over the top hair, nails, make up done up types just being so green and no Spanish I didn't want any problems.[/QUOTE]In the spirit of Homeland Security, here is the complete "avoid list":

Expensive-looking clothes, shoes, or hairdo

Blonde or red hair (natural or dyed)

Body piercings (except for earrings) and body jewellery.

High heels (they look sexy but will turn out to be bloody inconvenient)

Tattoos.

Phone costing more than 500 pesos.

Colored contact lenses.

False or painted nails.

Anything more than minimal makeup (none at all is best)

Augmented breast or buttocks.

Thick waist or thighs.

Speaks English, German, or Italian (or, ideally, Spanish, but I don't want to seem a killjoy). French is acceptable from Haitians, and Russian or Chinese could have an interesting tale attached.

Drinks alcohol (make an exception for two small local beers or Cuba libres over the course of a couple of hours)

Asks for a specific brand of alcohol or imported product.

Orders the most expensive thing on the menu (usually without having a clue what it is)

Has a mother, a father, a brother or any other family member (unless it is sexy sister or cousin). Well, of course they all have, or have had, mothers and fathers, but for them to come up in the conversation during the first month of friendship is a recipe for trouble or expense.

Gambles.

Smokes.

Takes drugs.

Coughs up blood.

On the rag.

Smelly pussy or other body odor.

Picks her nose or uses cocktail sticks to clean out earwax.

Suggests taking a taxi anywhere.

Suggests a particular motoconchista, bar or restaurant.

Speaks well of the USA or of Americans (insincerity is a mood killer) or claims to like baseball or American Football.

Answers her phone when in your company.

Racist (unless Haitian. They are all racist, poor things. It is not their fault).

Under 18.

Over 19.

Shows the slightest sign of interest in religion. (Saying grace before anal sex is a dead giveaway).

I am sure I have forgotten a few things but I don't want to limit your choice or give anybody the idea I am a narrow-minded bigot

Flew into PAP today around 1:30. Had a driver, Jose Martinez, waiting for our party of 5. He was recommended, drives a minivan taxi and we will all pay him around $30US each when we depart on Monday for 24/7 driving. Checked into Residencial Hispaniola for two 4br villas. Others otw from Chicago.

Went to a Cambio recommended by Jose, exchange was 42.2, declined and went Banco Providencial. Asked for $2k they said they only had $100, got them up to exchange $500 at 43.17. They closed completely on the next customer who was part of my party. That wasn't strange as I read about them, what was strange was the guy who opened the door for me wielding a shotgun.

Went to the supermercado, spent about $9kD, picked up a $20US phone and went and cooked. Jose arrived within minutes and will hit the strip and usual haunts posted by others.

Report to follow.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1559435]In the spirit of Homeland Security, here is the complete "avoid list":[/QUOTE]Hahaha. At this rate, there would be none left to take back to the hotel. I cannot imagine finding anyone these days with a 500 peso phone, without snap-on nails or high heels. Russian? Hmmm!

Without this sense of humor, this board would be boring. Thank you CP!

P. S: your "Cuba libre" is a dead give away that you are not from the "Land of the Free"!

[QUOTE=Sherroid; 1559440]Flew into PAP today around 1:30. Had a driver, Jose Martinez, waiting for our party of 5. He was recommended, drives a minivan taxi and we will all pay him around $30US each when we depart on Monday for 24/7 driving. Checked into Residencial Hispaniola for two 4br villas. Others otw from Chicago.

Went to a Cambio recommended by Jose, exchange was 42. 2, declined and went Banco Providencial. Asked for $2k they said they only had $100, got them up to exchange $500 at 43. 17. They closed completely on the next customer who was part of my party. That wasn't strange as I read about them, what was strange was the guy who opened the door for me wielding a shotgun.

Went to the supermercado, spent about $9kD, picked up a $20US phone and went and cooked. Jose arrived within minutes and will hit the strip and usual haunts posted by others.

Report to follow.[/QUOTE]Next time fly to POP. It is so much closer.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1559453]Next time fly to POP. It is so much closer.[/QUOTE]Come on Frannie, don't be a dick to the new dude.

We both are pretty sure he flew into POP, and not Haiti.

Try to mind your manners, what is left of them:)

[quote=charles pooter;1559435]...i am sure i have forgotten a few things but i don't want to limit your choice or give anybody the idea i am a narrow-minded bigot[/quote]mr pooter,

you forgot a couple of things.

1) she talks about her sick bambino or says that she needs money to buy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] for her bambino (despite the fact that she mentioned to you earlier that she only had a ten year old daughter!).

2) if she invites you to visit her family and the experience costs you more than if you were mugged by a 'tigere' on pedro clisante.

3) claims she does not normally do this and when she starts bobbing for apples does not leave any teeth marks (which, just thinking about it, might be a good thing!).

4) when walking with her, during the daytime, will step into a colmado, pull everything off a shelf, throw it on the counter, and expect you to pay for it.

5) has a high energy level at 8 in the night. still has a high energy level at 10 at night. still has a high energy level at midnight. and still has a high energy level at 2 in the morning.

6) when you ask her how much for sex she says 'any price you want, papi! ' when you respond '$50 pesos' she curses you out (if she curses you out in french, italian, german, russian, or chinese, since you do not speak these languages you might not notice).

7) or the other extreme-you ask her how much and the price she quotes you is larger than the national debt of the dominican republic.

8) and when you incredulously ask her why so much (using mr pooter's list) while she is wearing expensive clothes and shoes, dyed hair or a better braid job than any girl in the states, has tattoos, while holding a more expensive phone than you own (shame on you. just thinking about it, there is a fair chance that by the end of the night she might be holding your phone!) ; has colored contact lenses and a better looking manicure than angelina jolie; is shocked and angry that you do not believe her when she tells you she has no money and cannot feed her bambino (the fact that you met her at the casino, with her hand on a one arm bandit, her other hand holding a presidente [and one or two stray bottles nearby] does not in any way help her case!).

just thinking about it, mr pooter, i do not think you forgot anything. this is just an enhancement on some of your key points!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1559435]In the spirit of Homeland Security, here is the complete "avoid list":[/QUOTE]Great list CP, but you just eliminated almost all the chicas in Sosua!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1559517]Great list CP, but you just eliminated almost all the chicas in Sosua![/QUOTE]Also avoid the ones that ask you for money.

It could be an early sign she doesn't really love you!

A friend who's a frequent traveler asked me what I usually brought back from the D. R. on my many trips.

When I looked around my place, there was nothing, nada!

I have a lot of stuff from Mexico, a gold coin ring, some clay pots, an onyx mask and a chessboard, hand painted wall plates. I always brought back stuff from there.

My novia buys me shoes (yes shoes), shirts and coffee and stuff, but except for the coffee nothing seems to be made there. (and I may be wrong about the coffee)

Is there anything useful or decorative I could bring back, besides happy memories?

[QUOTE=Sherroid;1559440]Went to a Cambio recommended by Jose, exchange was 42.2, declined and went Banco Providencial. Asked for $2k they said they only had $100, got them up to exchange $500 at 43.17. They closed completely on the next customer who was part of my party. That wasn't strange as I read about them, what was strange was the guy who opened the door for me wielding a shotgun.[/QUOTE]I am glad you got the better rate it will give you more money to monger.

[QUOTE=Klove48;1559419]That's the same place I exchange my money when I'm in Sosua. I haven't found a better rate; it beats the "Big Playero", Western Union, Banco Popular, and definitely any money exchange person on the street.[/QUOTE]Well it isn't the best rate per se, but it is better than the ones you mentioned. Banco Providential has a slightly higher rate, but they are flaky when it comes to when they will exchange or how much. If you can't do business when you need it, their better rate don't mean squat. If they are trying to discourage tourists, they are doing a great job. Yep behind Orange, next to M&M is the best choice. Rate and service. No passport has been required in all of my visits.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1559517]Great list CP, but you just eliminated almost all the chicas in Sosua![/QUOTE]Most of them are worth avoiding.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1559633]A friend who's a frequent traveler asked me what I usually brought back from the D. R. On my many trips.

When I looked around my place, there was nothing, nada!

I have a lot of stuff from Mexico, a gold coin ring, some clay pots, an onyx mask and a chessboard, hand painted wall plates. I always brought back stuff from there.

My novia buys me shoes (yes shoes) , shirts and coffee and stuff, but except for the coffee nothing seems to be made there. (and I may be wrong about the coffee)

Is there anything useful or decorative I could bring back, besides happy memories?[/QUOTE]Aside from the occasional bottle of "Mamajuana" herbs, the DR is known for its amber.

It is mined in the mountains north of Santiago.

Anything you find in a tourist area will be wildly overpriced. You also need to be aware of possible fake amber.

If interested, do some homework and try to find a reputable source to buy.

Barcelo and Brugal rum are good, and there are always cigars. Santo Domingo coffee is local, and I like it.

Except for the rum, available in any supermarket, everything in a tourist area is overpriced.

was out last night. hung out at rumbas for a few hours. long enough to watch the parade of chicas walking in. saw many new faces to me since i was in sosua last march. word gets around fast about what sosua has to offer. that pertains to chicas as well as mongers. saw a lot of unfamiliar possibly new mongers in town too.

plenty of young **** looking chicas hanging outside of rumba and d'latins. security guys checks chicas i d 's in the front and back to make sure no **** chicas get inside. step out front and you can see all of the wannabe (in the game) **** chicas standing outside hoping some indiscriminate customer comes along. a lot of thick and just big chicas i saw in rumba's. i guess if you like them like that, you would be in heaven. the high heels many of these chicas is just too damn much. now, i prefer a chica with a modest heeled shoe or flats that still looks attractive to me.

of the many chicas i know on sight (some i have been with) , it's seems many of them live in sosua moreso, and only go back home for a few days to visit with their family, and then their back to sosua for another long stint. i'm sure many are wiring money home so they can stay in sosua. but it used to be, chicas stayed for a few days or a week in sosua, then go back home for a month or more. now it's the other way around. it seems many more spend most of their time in sosua, and only go home to visit for a short stay. i remember asking one chica last march how long she was staying in sosua this time, and she told me she just got in town, and she will be there for something like 3 weeks later. i said damn!

another observation. after coming for a few years you kinda get the idea of which people to stay away from. once the locals that work and hustle in town know you or see you enough, they pay less attention to you. and concentrate their energies on the newer or don't know any better meat in town. certain people i know who are bad news or bad intentioned may see me when i come back to town, and almost make a gesture to greet me only to remember that i am not a friend, but somebody who knows their game. like the rosetta stone guy, or the cd girls, or anybody else.

for instance, the chica that works at the burrito hut who tried to shortchange me last year, spotted me walking on the strip. i obviously looked familiar to her when she 1st spotted me, as she did to me. but we both realized in an instant that we arent aquainted by a positive experience but by a negative one. once it sunk in how she remembered me, her welcome back acknowledgement quickly turned into a look of "thats that guy that caught me trying to scam him, and he told other people about me" look.

i saw another chica i know, the one that stole my buddies toiletries back in february. she spotted me and almost spoke to me until she realized who i was and who i was associated with. i notice these chicas gf will go out of their way not to make eye contact with you, once they are schooled on someone their gf had a bad experience with or one who is related to that person.

they have a east coast west coast fiesta going on, i think it's the whole weekend. i think it was at the victorian house. probably a lot of people. i can live without that.

talked to an expat aquaintance of mine, and asked him who he banks with in the dr. he recommended that i not open any accounts in the dr. okay why? he said because you open yourself up to a greater potential of getting audited by the irs. one thing i don't need is the irs digging into my life looking for one thing and finding anything else that draws their attention. so perhaps i will give that suggestion a little more thought. at this point, i only wanted the account, so that i can leave money in a safe place the dr, instead of in my apt. this is day 2. hadn't had any new chicas. 3 of my regulars are in town, had each of them. normally would have called them to see if they were coming to sosua. that doesn't seem to be necessary anymore. it more likely they are in sosua than at home with family.

2 chicas i know were out of town. one claims she was in san cristobal, and the other in haiti. both claimed they were with their sick children. who knows? i am waiting for a request any day now.

anyway weather is great. up to 90f at times. but comfortable, especially in the shade. hopefully i make it to the playa today.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1559702]Aside from the occasional bottle of "Mamajuana" herbs, the DR is known for its amber.

It is mined in the mountains north of Santiago.

Anything you find in a tourist area will be wildly overpriced. You also need to be aware of possible fake amber.

If interested, do some homework and try to find a reputable source to buy.

Barcelo and Brugal rum are good, and there are always cigars. Santo Domingo coffee is local, and I like it.

Except for the rum, available in any supermarket, everything in a tourist area is OVERPRICED.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and for reminding me I do have a small bottle of "Caribbean Spice" mamajuana mix (just add rum).

(I'm obviously not intellectual enough to appreciate the raw local folk art sold on the beach)

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1559702]Aside from the occasional bottle of "Mamajuana" herbs, the DR is known for its amber.

It is mined in the mountains north of Santiago.

Anything you find in a tourist area will be wildly overpriced. You also need to be aware of possible fake amber.

If interested, do some homework and try to find a reputable source to buy.

Barcelo and Brugal rum are good, and there are always cigars. Santo Domingo coffee is local, and I like it.

Except for the rum, available in any supermarket, everything in a tourist area is OVERPRICED.[/QUOTE]Agree with that. All the vulgar stuff with the name or flag of the country is made in China. My first trip I wanted to buy my boss' wife a present to use up my pesos. (Didn't know then I would be coming back seven more times, even less that I would be emigrating here). All I could find that was tastefully presented was a bottle of vanilla essence. Found out later even that was imported.

Amber is risky as it is easy to replicate in plastic. There is a scratch test you can do if they will let you. And better amber can be bought in other countries, especially in the Baltic Republics.

The only thing that is uniquely Dominican is larimar, a pale blue semi-precious stone, but I don't find it very interesting. I have never heard of that being faked.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1559720]I'm obviously not intellectual enough to appreciate the raw local folk art sold on the beach.[/QUOTE]That is all Haitian, and crap. A previous girlfriend's uncle had a workshop with six haitian guys churning them out in a "paint by numbers" system, one doing the red bits then passing it along for the next guy to do the blue bits, etc. Large paintings that sell for 900 pesos cost him 300 to produce. That includes paints, labor, transport and all other overheads.

Haiti does have a great tradition for art (especially painting, metalwork and fabrics). The DR has none. Which is why, despite the widespread prejudice against, and often hatred for, all things Haitian, you will see Haitian (or mock Haitian) artifacts in wealthy Dominican homes and in public buildings.

For eight years I have been trying to source a good Haitian artist working in the Puerto Plata area, but all promised contacts have led me to the mass-producers of crap.

Wrx, Have you tried the Schwab debit card yet? If yes how did it work in the DR?

[QUOTE=Oakie;1559633]A friend who's a frequent traveler asked me what I usually brought back from the D. R. on my many trips. When I looked around my place, there was nothing, nada! Is there anything useful or decorative I could bring back, besides happy memories?[/QUOTE]Whenever I go somewhere new the first things I do is mail myself a post card and find a refrigerator magnet. I collect dominoes, so I have a set from DR. And like Yanqui said I have a bottle of mamajuana wood sitting on my bar. I never planned on mixing it, but just for more of a souvenir. You are out of luck on the gold; Chris Colombus sent that shit back to Spain.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1559720]Thanks, and for reminding me I do have a small bottle of "Caribbean Spice" mamajuana mix (just add rum).[/QUOTE]There is a kind of bread (hard and crunchy) called Casabe (made out of Cassava roots and also available in the organic form) which I like and buy in the DR but then I am into food so it may not be for everyone. I discovered it when a woman I know told me about her husband's casabera (or the bread making factory). There are a whole bunch of them in San Jose de Las Matas. I have at times also brought back "Dulce de Leche". Both things available at the Department stores.

[QUOTE=Houston Player;1559808]Wrx, Have you tried the Schwab debit card yet? If yes how did it work in the DR?[/QUOTE]I used mine twice in Sosua and did not have any fees on the Schwab side.

[QUOTE=Houston Player;1559808]Wrx, Have you tried the Schwab debit card yet? If yes how did it work in the DR?[/QUOTE]No I haven't yet. But when I do, based on all of the prior feedback from Schwab account holders, I'm confident everything will work just like everybody said. I'm just glad I received the card in the mail just in time for this trip.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1559788]That is all Haitian, and crap. A previous girlfriend's uncle had a workshop with six haitian guys churning them out in a "paint by numbers" system, one doing the red bits then passing it along for the next guy to do the blue bits, etc. Large paintings that sell for 900 pesos cost him 300 to produce. That includes paints, labor, transport and all other overheads.

Haiti does have a great tradition for art (especially painting, metalwork and fabrics). The DR has none. Which is why, despite the widespread prejudice against, and often hatred for, all things Haitian, you will see Haitian (or mock Haitian) artifacts in wealthy Dominican homes and in public buildings.

For eight years I have been trying to source a good Haitian artist working in the Puerto Plata area, but all promised contacts have led me to the mass-producers of crap.[/QUOTE]It's a shame really because the art sold down there resembles nothing that would remind me of The D. R., sitting on my wall here in the dead of our Canadian winter.

I often thought that a decent painter could make a living off tourists painting street scenes and beach scenes that capture the essence of the place, day and night.

Now if I were retired...)

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1559816]Whenever I go somewhere new the first things I do is mail myself a post card and find a refrigerator magnet. I collect dominoes, so I have a set from DR. And like Yanqui said I have a bottle of mamajuana wood sitting on my bar. I never planned on mixing it, but just for more of a souvenir. You are out of luck on the gold; Chris Colombus sent that shit back to Spain.[/QUOTE]On the small bottle I have, it says "just add rum", but how much rum should I add (to keep it authentic)?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1559842]There is a kind of bread (hard and crunchy) called Casabe (made out of Cassava roots and also available in the organic form) which I like and buy in the DR but then I am into food so it may not be for everyone. I discovered it when a woman I know told me about her husband's casabera (or the bread making factory). There are a whole bunch of them in San Jose de Las Matas. I have at times also brought back "Dulce de Leche". Both things available at the Department stores.[/QUOTE]Douche de Leche?

The only thing I always bring back is a touch of the local gripe. Exchange of bodily fluids and all that.

I did try to bring a retired puta back, but as you know it didn't turn out too well. LOL

[QUOTE=Oakie;1559941]On the small bottle I have, it says "just add rum", but how much rum should I add (to keep it authentic)?[/QUOTE]No idea. I've only even tried it once. The guy I bought it from at the beginning of the beach told me to add whatever rum and whatever red wine I like and let it sit for I forgot how long. [url]http://everydaydrinkers.com/2013/07/how-to-make-mamajuana/[/url]

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1559942]Douche de Leche?

The only thing I always bring back is a touch of the local gripe. Exchange of bodily fluids and all that.

I did try to bring a retired puta back, but as you know it didn't turn out too well. LOL[/QUOTE]Haha. I guess that is the only relevant leche here. I on the other hand was referring to the cow kind. It is a sweet. I think they add sugar and dry the milk to a solid state and may add other flavors like coconut. Not bad if you are into milk based sweets. The gumshoes at the border would not allow any other stuff like ripe mangoes which would be of interest to me compared to what you called the Dominican Art!

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1559633]A friend who's a frequent traveler asked me what I usually brought back from the D. R. On my many trips.

When I looked around my place, there was nothing, nada!

I have a lot of stuff from Mexico, a gold coin ring, some clay pots, an onyx mask and a chessboard, hand painted wall plates. I always brought back stuff from there.

My novia buys me shoes (yes shoes) , shirts and coffee and stuff, but except for the coffee nothing seems to be made there. (and I may be wrong about the coffee)

Is there anything useful or decorative I could bring back, besides happy memories?[/QUOTE]You can make custom jewelry (silver, pink concha, larimar at Patrick's Silversmith in SOSua or in Pto Pta, blue amber in Santo Domingo) , buy Haitian art from Castillo Mundo King in SOSua (the owner will ship heavy artifacts) , carnival masks in Santiago; paintings after some research in Santo Domingo, always good rum (Atlantico) , cigars (Fuentes) , etc.

[QUOTE=Questner;1559999]You can make custom jewelry (silver, pink concha, larimar at Patrick's Silversmith in SOSua or in Pto Pta, blue amber in Santo Domingo) , buy Haitian art from Castillo Mundo King in SOSua (the owner will ship heavy artifacts) , carnival masks in Santiago; paintings after some research in Santo Domingo, always good rum (Atlantico) , cigars (Fuentes) , etc.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll have to broaden my shopping experience from Playera in Sosua, and Jimanez and La Serena in PP. I'm always being dragged there by my local novia. LOL.

But I do love the way she organizes the trip seamlessly. 150 pesos to get there. Then a walk out of La Serena parking lot past the taxis, where she flags down a motoconcho and sends him for the publico. Two minutes later it shows and brings us back to Sosua for the same price.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1560107]Then a walk out of La Serena parking lot past the taxis, where she flags down a motoconcho and sends him for the publico. Two minutes later it shows and brings us back to Sosua for the same price.[/QUOTE]Do you mean La Sirena?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1560109]Do you mean La Sirena?[/QUOTE]Yep, that's the one. Like a Wallmart. One of the only places I dare use a credit card.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1559934]I used mine twice in Sosua and did not have any fees on the Schwab side.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Also I would like to ask if you have had any issues using the card. I always have to call them from whatever country I'm in to lift the security hold, even though I have a travel advisory on the card. I don't remember if it is actually Schwab bank or Visa who put the hold. It could also be because I normally use the card in Brazil and it is well known for fraud. The card works after I call from Brazil and get the hold released.

I was just wondering if I will encounter the same issue in the DR.

Just to reconfirm I have never had any fees associated with using the card and they have always reimbursed any other bank fees.

[QUOTE=Houston Player; 1560229]Thank you. Also I would like to ask if you have had any issues using the card. I always have to call them from whatever country I'm in to lift the security hold, even though I have a travel advisory on the card. I don't remember if it is actually Schwab bank or Visa who put the hold. It could also be because I normally use the card in Brazil and it is well known for fraud. The card works after I call from Brazil and get the hold released.

I was just wondering if I will encounter the same issue in the DR.

Just to reconfirm I have never had any fees associated with using the card and they have always reimbursed any other bank fees.[/QUOTE]Your credit card is just as safe here at a Sirena as it is in the USA, outside of the Sirena is about 5 ATMs and they are about as safe to use as any in the USA, just use a debit card in a safe area like a bank ATM.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1560125]Yep, that's the one. Like a Wallmart. One of the only places I dare use a credit card.[/QUOTE]OK, that is who I thought you meant. There is currently a Sirena being constructed in Sosua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrLXUu3P0WI

[QUOTE=Houston Player; 1560229]Thank you. Also I would like to ask if you have had any issues using the card. I always have to call them from whatever country I'm in to lift the security hold, even though I have a travel advisory on the card. I don't remember if it is actually Schwab bank or Visa who put the hold. It could also be because I normally use the card in Brazil and it is well known for fraud. The card works after I call from Brazil and get the hold released.

I was just wondering if I will encounter the same issue in the DR.

Just to reconfirm I have never had any fees associated with using the card and they have always reimbursed any other bank fees.[/QUOTE]I got the debit card a couple of days before I left for the DR. I called to activate the card and I was told by a CS agent that I needed to call ahead and give a travel advisory; so I did and used the card at three different banks (to test the card) and did not have any issues.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1559633]Is there anything useful or decorative I could bring back, besides happy memories?[/QUOTE]In the food area you could always pick up some almonds and for pain relief you could pick up some noni they both grow in the DR

I suppose it would be a good idea to use my debit card at an atm in the DR to get CS and / or Visa used to seeing activity from me. And yes I gave CS a travel advisory before leaving.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1560356]I suppose it would be a good idea to use my debit card at an atm in the DR to get CS and / or Visa used to seeing activity from me. And yes I gave CS a travel advisory before leaving.[/QUOTE]Talked to a CS rep today, yes on Sunday, and had to give a travel advisory because I'm staying a couple of nights in Tijuana. And Tijuana is only 20 minutes away. I guess for security, it is not a bad thing.

[quote=wrx2005; 1559716]plenty of young **** looking chicas hanging outside of rumba and d'latins. security guys checks chicas i d 's in the front and back to make sure no **** chicas get inside. step out front and you can see all of the wannabe (in the game) **** chicas standing outside hoping some indiscriminate customer comes along.

there are a lot of **** chicas with phony i'd's and most of the hotels won't let them in without an i'd. on my last trip my buddy went with a girl that had a phony i'd that said she was 19, but once inside the room the girl confessed to being only 16 years old. i also witnessed **** chicas in front of rumbas and when i asked them how old they where they would lie and show me their i'd's which were phony. i've heard that a phony i'd can be obtained for something like 1, 000 pesos. the thought of being caught with an **** chica has serious ramifications both in the dr and in the states!

[quote=surfer500; 1560429]

[quote=wrx2005; 1559716]plenty of young **** looking chicas hanging outside of rumba and d'latins. security guys checks chicas i d 's in the front and back to make sure no **** chicas get inside. step out front and you can see all of the wannabe (in the game) **** chicas standing outside hoping some indiscriminate customer comes along.

there are a lot of **** chicas with phony i'd's and most of the hotels won't let them in without an i'd. on my last trip my buddy went with a girl that had a phony i'd that said she was 19, but once inside the room the girl confessed to being only 16 years old. i also witnessed **** chicas in front of rumbas and when i asked them how old they where they would lie and show me their i'd's which were phony. i've heard that a phony i'd can be obtained for something like 1, 000 pesos. the thought of being caught with an **** chica has serious ramifications both in the dr and in the states![/quote]i read this today:

[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3689&article=1[/url]

jj

[quote=surfer500;1560429]there are a lot of **** chicas with phony i'd's and most of the hotels won't let them in without an i'd. on my last trip my buddy went with a girl that had a phony i'd that said she was 19, but once inside the room the girl confessed to being only 16 years old. i also witnessed **** chicas in front of rumbas and when i asked them how old they where they would lie and show me their i'd's which were phony. i've heard that a phony i'd can be obtained for something like 1, 000 pesos. the thought of being caught with an **** chica has serious ramifications both in the dr and in the states![/quote]

[quote=jimjames; 1560451]i read this today:

[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3689&article=1[/url]

jj[/quote]i kinda forgot about chicas with phony cedulas. because it hasnt been a major concern for me. about the article. i didn't get the idea that those new cedulas were mandatory for current cedula holders or needed to be replaced immediately. maybe only when their current cedulas expire the new cedulas will be the only i d's available? some guys have some semblance of caution in place if they are staying in a hotel that checks cedulas. in many instances i don't think guys are diligent enough in checking cedulas, but instead hoping or guessing with chicas, and relying on security at their hotels to proof the chicas. security may miss a fake cedula or allow a chica on the property through a propina. in my case, there is no security checking cedulas. i have to rely on my own intuition about chicas i bring to my spot, as well as the validity of their cedulas.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1560378]Talked to a CS rep today, yes on Sunday, and had to give a travel advisory because I'm staying a couple of nights in Tijuana. And Tijuana is only 20 minutes away. I guess for security, it is not a bad thing.[/QUOTE]I am not surprised that you experienced customer service even on a weekend. So far their promptness, availability and professional service online or on the phone has been excellent.

Can anyone here give me some info on a woman named Latina in Sosua? I was previously advised to seek her out. Any help would be appreciated.

[quote=surfer500;1560429]there are a lot of **** chicas with phony i'd's and most of the hotels won't let them in without an i'd. on my last trip my buddy went with a girl that had a phony i'd that said she was 19, but once inside the room the girl confessed to being only 16 years old. i also witnessed **** chicas in front of rumbas and when i asked them how old they where they would lie and show me their i'd's which were phony. i've heard that a phony i'd can be obtained for something like 1, 000 pesos. the thought of being caught with an **** chica has serious ramifications both in the dr and in the states![/quote]why does that matter? those girls are starving and have babies at home and are unable to afford the basic necessities remember. this is the poor poor dr. i'm sure their need to survive outweighs your risk of "being caught". you should be willing to help them out. or is it that only the ones of a certain age deserve to eat?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1560714]Why does that matter? Those girls are starving and have babies at home and are unable to afford the basic necessities remember. This is the poor poor DR. I'm sure their need to survive outweighs your risk of "being caught". You should be willing to help them out. Or is it that only the ones of a certain age deserve to eat?[/QUOTE]WHY DOES THAT MATTER? How about because if you are a US Citizen the US laws follow you ALL OVER THE WORLD. Including 3rd World Countries. ICE Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is actively working DR, Philippines, Thailand and other Hot Spots and enforcing US laws. Arresting offenders. And sending their asses back to the US for Trial and Incarceration. Because the girl is using a fake ID has no bearing in the case........ if she is a minor and you get caught you are fu$ked ,THATS WHY IT MATTERS.

[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1560741]WHY DOES THAT MATTER? How about because if you are a US Citizen the US laws follow you ALL OVER THE WORLD. Including 3rd World Countries. ICE Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is actively working DR, Philippines, Thailand and other Hot Spots and enforcing US laws. Arresting offenders. And sending their asses back to the US for Trial and Incarceration. Because the girl is using a fake ID has no bearing in the case. if she is a minor and you get caught you are fu$ked ,THATS WHY IT MATTERS.[/QUOTE]So true.

In a lot of 3rd world Countries, the law will milk you for all the money they can, then turn you over to the feds.

[QUOTE=Ah4321;1560687]Can anyone here give me some info on a woman named Latina in Sosua? I was previously advised to seek her out. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You are looking for a Latina in Sosua? Well that narrows it down to the entire town. The joke's on you jack.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1560760]You are looking for a Latina in Sosua? Well that narrows it down to the entire town. The joke's on you jack.[/QUOTE]Is it such a common name? There is one I know who is about 40, fat, and has crooked teeth, with hair usually dyed blonde and short and curly. Pleasant character and always around, but long past her sell date.

She is often around the outdoor barbecue chicken place just west of the hotel Europa or at the beach.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1560760]You are looking for a Latina in Sosua? Well that narrows it down to the entire town. The joke's on you jack.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Frannie;1328443]There is a woman in Sosua called Latina, whose photo has been seen recently somewhere in these boards. She should be right up your alley, and you up hers.[/QUOTE]He is responding to the above post from Frannie, who was replying to AH4321's only previous post.

We don't have enough information yet to know whether Ah4321 has a dry sense of humor and is winding us up, or whether he is a little "slow". I hope the former.

[quote=mongerer69;1560741]why does that matter? how about because if you are a us citizen the us laws follow you all over the world. including 3rd world countries. ice immigrations and customs enforcement is actively working dr, philippines, thailand and other hot spots and enforcing us laws. arresting offenders. and sending their asses back to the us for trial and incarceration. because the girl is using a fake id has no bearing in the case. if she is a minor and you get caught you are fu$ked ,thats why it matters.[/quote]this is actually false information (links to sources?) , because a bona fide belief that an **** prostitute was over the age of 18 is just about the only defense that the law does allow for in the us, (though not necessarily in other jurisdictions). this gives one some protection against setups and blackmail situtations.

[url]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2423[/url]

of course i would agree that one does not want to be in a position to have to use that defense and that one should exercise caution to comply with local and international laws.

it is also worth noting that such cases rarely come to trial in the us due to the difficulty in bringing witnesses to the us as the us does not readily grant travel visas to prostitutes and pimps, even to appear on judge judy. however if you are arrested and charged and convicted in a foreign country, there are various legal procedures that the us might use against you that you would not like.

if you are truly concerned about the law, also remember that prostitution is not legal in thailand and that there are many members of this board who have been there and perhaps broken the local law. prostitution is legal in the dr if there is no middeman involved, though those who have visited brothels in the dr have probably been guilty of a violation.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1560581]I kinda forgot about chicas with phony cedulas. Because it hasnt been a major concern for me. About the article. I didn't get the idea that those new cedulas were mandatory for current cedula holders or needed to be replaced immediately. Maybe only when their current cedulas expire the new cedulas will be the only I D's available? Some guys have some semblance of caution in place if they are staying in a hotel that checks cedulas. In many instances I don't think guys are diligent enough in checking cedulas, but instead hoping or guessing with chicas, and relying on security at their hotels to proof the chicas. Security may miss a fake cedula or allow a chica on the property through a propina. In my case, there is no security checking cedulas. I have to rely on my own intuition about chicas I bring to my spot, as well as the validity of their cedulas.[/QUOTE]If a chica has a cedula that belongs to her older cousin or sister, it will not make a lot of difference unless the hotels and cabanas have finger print verification machines and facilities to check blood types, which they didn't have last time I checked. This might change in the future, I suppose.

I'm still on the ground and enjoying myself so some more reports soon. I'm sure as everybody that has been here will tell you, prices vary, gringo prices / local prices / but even store to store. I stopped by my go to vitamin V spot, pretty sure it's called "Latinos pharmacy", it's a tiny grocery stop across from the new fancy resort on Alejo. It has a big green presdiente sign out front. I bought a box of generic V. 100 mg. 96 pills for 975 pesos. Later that day I was at the Supermecado and there is an Orange store and pharmacy across the street so I decided to check their price. 9000 pesos for the exact same box, that's not a typo. 9000! Almost 10 times as much.

[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1560741]WHY DOES THAT MATTER? How about because if you are a US Citizen the US laws follow you ALL OVER THE WORLD. Including 3rd World Countries. ICE Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is actively working DR, Philippines, Thailand and other Hot Spots and enforcing US laws. Arresting offenders. And sending their asses back to the US for Trial and Incarceration. Because the girl is using a fake ID has no bearing in the case. if she is a minor and you get caught you are fu$ked ,THATS WHY IT MATTERS.[/QUOTE]Not to mention you can be set up for the perfect sting operation.

But I'm sure that Surfer 500 had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek, when he made that observation. LOL.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1560804]I'm still on the ground and enjoying myself so some more reports soon. I'm sure as everybody that has been here will tell you, prices vary, gringo prices / local prices / but even store to store. I stopped by my go to vitamin V spot, pretty sure it's called "Latinos pharmacy", it's a tiny grocery stop across from the new fancy resort on Alejo. It has a big green presdiente sign out front. I bought a box of generic V. 100 mg. 96 pills for 975 pesos. Later that day I was at the Supermecado and there is an Orange store and pharmacy across the street so I decided to check their price. 9000 pesos for the exact same box, that's not a typo. 9000! Almost 10 times as much.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are numerous pharmacies in the DR and you can see why. They are very profitable indeed, not only for sales of Viagra, but for all kinds of generic drugs like those cold remedies sold in individual sachets for a few pesos, where in the US one would buy a bottle of a hundred capsules for a couple of dollars, or for generic antibiotics like Amoxycillin which are priced on a per capsule basis.

The store is called Latino Minimarket and it is NOT a pharmacy. It used to be and maybe still is owned by an English guy. I believe he was trying to sell the business, but don't know if he did. Also a good place to buy cheap Chilean wine and / or sit outside and drink a beer at colmado prices while watching the world go by.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1560714]Why does that matter? Those girls are starving and have babies at home and are unable to afford the basic necessities remember. This is the poor poor DR. I'm sure their need to survive outweighs your risk of "being caught". You should be willing to help them out. Or is it that only the ones of a certain age deserve to eat?[/QUOTE]You must of been kidding when you wrote this!

Price is incredible, 30-40 times cheaper than a real thing. Could this be dangerous for your health?

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1560804]I'm still on the ground and enjoying myself so some more reports soon. I'm sure as everybody that has been here will tell you, prices vary, gringo prices / local prices / but even store to store. I stopped by my go to vitamin V spot, pretty sure it's called "Latinos pharmacy", it's a tiny grocery stop across from the new fancy resort on Alejo. It has a big green presdiente sign out front. I bought a box of generic V. 100 mg. 96 pills for 975 pesos. Later that day I was at the Supermecado and there is an Orange store and pharmacy across the street so I decided to check their price. 9000 pesos for the exact same box, that's not a typo. 9000! Almost 10 times as much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1560804]I'm still on the ground and enjoying myself so some more reports soon. I'm sure as everybody that has been here will tell you, prices vary, gringo prices / local prices / but even store to store. I stopped by my go to vitamin V spot, pretty sure it's called "Latinos pharmacy", it's a tiny grocery stop across from the new fancy resort on Alejo. It has a big green presdiente sign out front. I bought a box of generic V. 100 mg. 96 pills for 975 pesos. Later that day I was at the Supermecado and there is an Orange store and pharmacy across the street so I decided to check their price. 9000 pesos for the exact same box, that's not a typo. 9000! Almost 10 times as much.[/QUOTE]I bought the box at latinos last summer. Their stuff works fine, cuts easy. Worth the cost of the flight to save on what I have to pay back home.

Visiting Sosua this weekend. I always rent a car. Just need a suggestion from fellow mongers. Are there good deals available if I go directly to the rental counter at POP airport rather than reserving through car rental companies?

Thanks for the info

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1561033]Visiting Sosua this weekend. I always rent a car. Just need a suggestion from fellow mongers. Are there good deals available if I go directly to the rental counter at POP airport rather than reserving through car rental companies?

Thanks for the info[/QUOTE]For me it has been cheaper to reserve the auto before I get there. I have tried to get a last second deal when I arrived but it has always been more money. The men in Sosua will rent auto's cheaper than the airport but I have always took the advice of the mongers on ISG and went with the larger companies at the airport.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1560824]You must of been kidding when you wrote this![/QUOTE]Who knows what people really think when they post on here. But what most of us do know is the law of the land and if 1 breaks 1 of the most important laws of the land they are treading very shallow water that they may drown in.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1561062]For me it has been cheaper to reserve the auto before I get there. I have tried to get a last second deal when I arrived but it has always been more money. The men in Sosua will rent auto's cheaper than the airport but I have always took the advice of the mongers on ISG and went with the larger companies at the airport.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I always reserved with big companies before but could not find cheaper rates. Another question is I was getting full insurance locally for $20 per day. Is it still the case?

It was always better to get ins locally.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1561016]I bought the box at latinos last summer. Their stuff works fine, cuts easy. Worth the cost of the flight to save on what I have to pay back home.[/QUOTE]I've used them all, side effects I've experienced are muscle cramps (sometimes really bad) , acid reflux, longer erections, when I have an erection for 4 or more hours I call a puta to assist.

I found SosuA to be so small I could walk everywhere I want to go. The local transport can get you to Puerto {Plata or Cabereti for pennies.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1561091]Thanks. I always reserved with big companies before but could not find cheaper rates. Another question is I was getting full insurance locally for $20 per day. Is it still the case?

It was always better to get ins locally.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1561033]Visiting Sosua this weekend. I always rent a car. Just need a suggestion from fellow mongers. Are there good deals available if I go directly to the rental counter at POP airport rather than reserving through car rental companies?

Thanks for the info[/QUOTE]Always reserve if you don't want to get fucked. Once I did a walk up at Nelly and the guy tried to charge the shit out of me. I said man are you crazy. I am a regular customer. He looked my record up and saw what I paid last time and he said oh yeah. You will get that same rate. Then you will be lucky if they even have cars. Wasn't thinking when I was in SD in December and went to rent a car. Guess what. Holidays. Many people in town. No cars. Finally found one at Dollar and it cost me $60 / day. It was the last car they had left.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1561157]Always reserve if you don't want to get fucked. Once I did a walk up at Nelly and the guy tried to charge the shit out of me. I said man are you crazy. I am a regular customer. He looked my record up and saw what I paid last time and he said oh yeah. You will get that same rate. Then you will be lucky if they even have cars. Wasn't thinking when I was in SD in December and went to rent a car. Guess what. Holidays. Many people in town. No cars. Finally found one at Dollar and it cost me $60 / day. It was the last car they had left.[/QUOTE]I've got caught out there without a reservation in the past and you can easily get screwed. My suggestion is to rent from Thrifty or Avis I always get the best deals from them. Join Thrifty's blue chip program (discounts) and look up on retailmenot. Com for coupon codes. You can get significant discounts.

This is a trip report from April 2nd. Sorry for the long delay, I've just been lazy.

Like many people who come to Sosua, the girls I took were from either Rumbas, D'latins or on the street in front of these places.

The first girl I met on Wed April 2nd was Janet who was 20 years old. She was short, black hair, pretty face and kind of dark skin. I think she asked for 2000 but I stuck to 1500 for short time. I was staying at plaza Europa again which was fine for me. The girl Janet seemed to be kind of a dud or inexperienced or just not into foreplay much. She was cute and had a nice body (couldn't tell she had a kid) , but I would not repeat with her. The funny thing is I kept running into her every night. She wasn't pushy even though she suggested I take her again. She was cool about it and even offered up one of her friends. Her friend was okay looking but I didn't come here to have someone pick my girls for me. Plus, birds of a feather flock together so she was probably a dud too.

On Friday night April 4th I met a girl named Carolina in Rumbas. She was very pretty, had long black hair, very light skin and braces. Normally I like blondes but she was very cute with a great body. She was 20 years old and asked for 2500. I asked if she would let me take pictures and she said no. I offered her 1500 but she wouldn't budge off the 2500. I was starting to think maybe the prices had gone up and the 1500 some guys were talking about were some over the hill or desperate chicks. Rumbas was starting to thin out so I figured I'the try my luck at D'latins. D'latins was packed. There was a cute blonde with a Hello Kitty necklace there that I liked. She didn't speak much english but knew enough to tell me 2500. Her name was Eva and she was 24. I again offered 1500, but she wouldn't come off that number. She was with some guy in there earlier but I didn't see him after a while. I thought maybe she was waiting for him or hoping to leave with him. I went outside for a while and met a short petite fake blond named Vanessa (I think). She was 22 and very outgoing. She was with some fat ugly friend (aren't they always?) and suggested a threesome. I said I would give her 1500 for her only. She agreed and we went back to my hotel. She was much better than the first chick and very into it. She let me take pics but no face shots and no nudes.

I think Saturday I just hung out and watch the scene but didn't take anyone. Sunday I decided to check out Caberete. The moto concho guy outside my hotel offered to take me for 300. I probably could have gotten it cheaper but this guy was older and said he doesn't drive crazy because he has 4 kids. Ok, he may be safe but what about all the other drivers coming at us in the other direction? Anyway, I hired him and we went with no major problems except my cap almost flying off and some pretty big potholes. Caberete was nice and more built up with condos and stores than Sosua. It was much windier though hence all the windsurfers. I stayed there a few hours, had a pizza then started looking for a way to get back to Sosua. The taxi stand had their prices in dollars and it was $15 back to Sosua. I didn't want to take another moto concho so I was just walking down the ave hoping to find an independent taxi I can negotiate with. So a minivan with the sliding door wide open rides by slowly with a guy riding on the running boards. I ask if he is going to Sosua. He says 'yes', I say 'how much? ', he says 50. So I go to get in and realize there are literally 20 people in some 1990's minivan. I guess it's a little better that the moto concho except that I am sitting in the seat closest to the open sliding door. The tires felt like they were half inflated and would blow out on the first dip in the road. The minivan was packed but they actually picked up two more people. One of them, a young 20 year old guy gave up his seat to an older lady who got on. He promptly went to the only spot left which was on the outside running boards with they guy who collects the money. I felt like the van was going to blow out its tire and flip on its side like in the beginning of The Flintstones when fred orders a huge rack brontosaurus ribs and it tips over his car. The only thing that put my mind at ease was when the van tips over, the two poor saps on the running boards will cushion me from falling out of the van while they use their bodies as human brake pads. Luckily, that never happened and when I got off at my stop suddenly I felt good because I saved like 450 pesos.

After I took a nap I went out to Rumbas and met a blonde named Ericka. She was 25 with a nice petite body with some curves. She asked for 2500 but I offered 1500. Eventually she agreed. Off we went to my hotel. She was really cool and good in bed. Before we started I put on a porno on the TV and it was of a blonde chick blowing a guy. When she came out of the shower she saw it and pointed at the blonde chick and said 'she is me, and he is you'. Then she started blowing me. I had a great time with her.

On Monday and Tuesday I went out to Rumbas but did not see much to my liking. It was either much less girls from the weekend and / or it was a bunch of the same girls I already saw. I had some offers from some okay girls but I kept looking for something better and ended up going home alone. Wednesday I went back early determined to take the first okay girl I saw. I saw Ericka again and decided I needed to grab her now before she disappears with someone.

Ericka was even better than the last time. She let me take pictures, but no nudes and asked that I don't put them on the internet.

That was the extent of my mongering. What I left out was just how nice and relaxing the beach is and how good the water is. I went to the beach every day. Staring out into the water you can't help but wonder how great it would be to just hang out at the beach all day, eat some BBQ chicken, take a nap and then have sex with some new 20 year old whenever you felt like it.

Before I knew it, my dream was over and I found myself half asleep getting off the train at the WTC at 8 in the morning following the hundreds of other zombies into their cubicles. What a difference a day makes.

[QUOTE=Simpleminded;1561258]Sunday I decided to check out Caberete. The moto concho guy outside my hotel offered to take me for 300. I probably could have gotten it cheaper but this guy was older and said he doesn't drive crazy because he has 4 kids. Ok, he may be safe but what about all the other drivers coming at us in the other direction? Anyway, I hired him and we went with no major problems except my cap almost flying off and some pretty big potholes. Caberete was nice and more built up with condos and stores than Sosua. It was much windier though hence all the windsurfers. I stayed there a few hours, had a pizza then started looking for a way to get back to Sosua. The taxi stand had their prices in dollars and it was $15 back to Sosua. I didn't want to take another moto concho so I was just walking down the ave hoping to find an independent taxi I can negotiate with. So a minivan with the sliding door wide open rides by slowly with a guy riding on the running boards. I ask if he is going to Sosua. He says 'yes', I say 'how much? ', he says 50. So I go to get in and realize there are literally 20 people in some 1990's minivan. I guess it's a little better that the moto concho except that I am sitting in the seat closest to the open sliding door. The tires felt like they were half inflated and would blow out on the first dip in the road. The minivan was packed but they actually picked up two more people. One of them, a young 20 year old guy gave up his seat to an older lady who got on. He promptly went to the only spot left which was on the outside running boards with they guy who collects the money. I felt like the van was going to blow out its tire and flip on its side like in the beginning of The Flintstones when fred orders a huge rack brontosaurus ribs and it tips over his car. The only thing that put my mind at ease was when the van tips over, the two poor saps on the running boards will cushion me from falling out of the van while they use their bodies as human brake pads. Luckily, that never happened and when I got off at my stop suddenly I felt good because I saved like 450 pesos.[/QUOTE]Funny stuff, but you did it wrong.

To get to and from Sosua to Cabarete or Puerto Plata, or anywhere along the main road, you don't need private taxis or the guagua which you caught coming back. And anyone who rides a motoconcho along a main road for any distance must have a death wish.

The answer is to take a "carrito publico" (shared taxi running along fixed routes). Very frequent and cheap. 35 pesos to Cabarete. 45 to Puerto Plata. For greater comfort buy two seats. Still much cheaper and safer than a motoconcho (though, as with all transportation in the DR,"safe" is a relative term).

Congratulations on making the effort to get away from the Strip for a bit. Most guys seem to think they will collapse from lack of oxygen if they stray further than 200 yards from Rhumba or D'Latino.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1561279]Funny stuff, but you did it wrong.

To get to and from Sosua to Cabarete or Puerto Plata, or anywhere along the main road, you don't need private taxis or the guagua which you caught coming back. And anyone who rides a motoconcho along a main road for any distance must have a death wish.

The answer is to take a "carrito publico" (shared taxi running along fixed routes). Very frequent and cheap. 35 pesos to Cabarete. 45 to Puerto Plata. For greater comfort buy two seats. Still much cheaper and safer than a motoconcho (though, as with all transportation in the DR,"safe" is a relative term).

Congratulations on making the effort to get away from the Strip for a bit. Most guys seem to think they will collapse from lack of oxygen if they stray further than 200 yards from Rhumba or D'Latino.[/QUOTE]Charles, I remember someone saying in this forum that they took a bus to Caberete for like 35 pesos. I thought I was on this bus since the fee was similar (35 pesos + 15 pesos for being a gringo). Is the carrito publico run by the government or an actual bus company? Does it say anything on the van / bus / taxi?

[QUOTE=Simpleminded;1561283]Charles, I remember someone saying in this forum that they took a bus to Caberete for like 35 pesos. I thought I was on this bus since the fee was similar (35 pesos + 15 pesos for being a gringo). Is the carrito publico run by the government or an actual bus company? Does it say anything on the van / bus / taxi?[/QUOTE]First off, I laughed all the way through your adventure of getting back to Sosua. It was hilarious! Thanks a lot for that.

The carrito is actually a car (typically a Toyota corolla say. 1980 vintage. So tire wise or lumbering, it may not do much better than your bus). It holds, let me see, six people, other than the driver if you can imagine that. This is the reason Charles is asking you to buy two seats. So two seats in front for say 70 pesos, will get you the entire passenger seat in front. Isn't that a deal? I mean I have tried squeezing my butt in where there was a woman in front but trust me, it ain't no fun! BTW, there is a carrito terminus the other side of where the Metro buses arrive in Sosua. I know cars from there go towards Puerto Plata, perhaps also towards Cabarete? These are all private taxis, under some kind of a syndication I presume and the driver may or may not be the owner.

By the way, I have not seen this Gringo tax people speak of. Perhaps in Sosua, where the suckers are but in normal towns. Not to my experience.

[QUOTE=Simpleminded;1561283]Charles, I remember someone saying in this forum that they took a bus to Caberete for like 35 pesos. I thought I was on this bus since the fee was similar (35 pesos + 15 pesos for being a gringo). Is the carrito publico run by the government or an actual bus company? Does it say anything on the van / bus / taxi?[/QUOTE]Don't know the name of the street but a few blocks down from the Police Station and the Playero Supermarket on the main highway is a station with one side having four door sedans going in the direction of Puerto Plata or the other direction towards Cabarette. I think all of the cars are privately owned by the drivers and they get paid a certain amount out of the fares. As I recall it was something like 35 Pesos to Cabarette and 50 Pesos to Puerto Plata. They typically shove 2 passengers in the front seat and 4 in the backseat. You are allowed to purchase more than one seat so as an example you can pay 600 pesos and have the entire car to yourself if you want to go to Puerto Plata but you need to arrange this before getting in the car. The passenger vans don't stop within the stations but basically charge the same fare as the sedans. All of the sedans will have a colored hat on them identifying what there route is. In some instances when I have wanted to travel to out of the way places I have negotiated deals with the drivers. This I found is cheaper than hiring drivers in the "tourist vans" that have sky high prices. I hope this helps.

Good info Surfer, except the usual charge for hiring the whole publico to Puerto Plata centre or Field of Dreams is 400 pesos. But 600 would be right to Blackbeards from Sosua.

Of course, if the driver had six passengers traveling to Pto Pta he would take only 6 x 45 = 270 pesos, but they hope to make more than that from the seats earning smaller sums for shorter journeys, so if each seat was used twice for a 30 peso trip that would be 360 pesos.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1561428]Good info Surfer, except the usual charge for hiring the whole publico to Puerto Plata centre or Field of Dreams is 400 pesos. But 600 would be right to Blackbeards from Sosua.

Of course, if the driver had six passengers traveling to Pto Pta he would take only 6 x 45 = 270 pesos, but they hope to make more than that from the seats earning smaller sums for shorter journeys, so if each seat was used twice for a 30 peso trip that would be 360 pesos.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you spend a lot of time or live in the area. What's interesting is that you can literally pull aside any driver and for an agreed upon price hire the car and driver for as much time as you want. I did this on several occasions,

I'm posting this here besides the travel announcement section. Will be staying in Sosua between May 29 and June 16 hopefully at Casa Cayena and will be hitting the beach daily. If you sit around all day smoking and drinking, read no further.

If your into kayaking, snorkeling, surfing, and / or swimming and will be in town and want to partake in any of these activities send me a PM. Also going to try kite surfing for a few days as well. I got to have something to do when I'm "leche" depleted!

Thanks Surfer. That is very good info. It can get very expensive taking a taxi for 500 pesos.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1561133]I found SosuA to be so small I could walk everywhere I want to go. The local transport can get you to Puerto {Plata or Cabereti for pennies.[/QUOTE]I like the convenience of having a car. Gives me the freedom to go anywhere. Bonus is I can pick up local girls sometimes. Apart from nights daytime is boring in Sosua. So I go to Santiago, Puerto Plata etc. If I find a nice girl we go sightseeing during daytime.

Also I like to go visit casinos at the tourist places. Sometimes can meet vacationing girls from Europe.

The area on Route 5 where all of the construction has been going on, produced a shopping center but it aint no La Sirena. It's called Super Pola. The place must have had their grand opening today. I went there with a buddy and as fast as we squeezed our way in, we squeezed our way back out. The place was mad packed with shoppers. The parking lot was kinda small, especially compared to La Sirena in PP. Cars and a shitload of motorcycles filled up the lot. In the store, people were lined up and down each isle just to get to the registers. It appeared mostly dominican shoppers in the store. Several small business stations were in the front. Like Claro. Overall, I didn't get the impression that this store is stocked like La Sirena with merchandise other than food and household goods. Meaning, I don't think you are going to be buying a television there.

Just about every shopping cart was full at each register. Had me wondering if some storm was coming and people needed to stock up? Or were the grand opening prices so low, it made sense to get as much as you can? Had me wondering where did all of these people come from?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1561633]The area on Route 5 where all of the construction has been going on, produced a shopping center but it aint no La Sirena. It's called Super Pola.[/QUOTE]They are both owned by Grupo Ramos, but Super Pola only sells food. [url]http://www.superpola.com/portada/[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1561646]They are both owned by Grupo Ramos, but Super Pola only sells food.

[url]http://www.superpola.com/portada/[/url][/QUOTE]I got cha! It's amazing. But for months talk was going around here and elsewhere that it was going to be La Sirena not Super Pola. I don't recall anyone with an update to what store was really being built. So I was a little disappointed, because I was looking forward to a La Sirena. Now it seems I still have to go to Puerto Plata to La Sirena for things I can't find or get in Sosua.

Gentlemen,

I don't post much but I had an amazing meal last night in Sosua and wanted to share. We ate at a place called La Finca. Great food, service and atmosphere. We were surprised how few people were there and Baileys was packed. We tried Baileys but was not impressed between the rude service and the ten cats walking around and coming up to our table. We met the owner of La Finca, who was a classy Dominican woman, and she made us feel very welcome. 5 stars to La Finca. We are going back tonight. Safe travels for all.

[QUOTE=PhillyJ50; 1561831]Gentlemen,

I don't post much but I had an amazing meal last night in Sosua and wanted to share. We ate at a place called La Finca. Great food, service and atmosphere. We were surprised how few people were there and Baileys was packed. We tried Baileys but was not impressed between the rude service and the ten cats walking around and coming up to our table. We met the owner of La Finca, who was a classy Dominican woman, and she made us feel very welcome. 5 stars to La Finca. We are going back tonight. Safe travels for all.[/QUOTE]Is this the place on the corner opposite Bon Bon Ice Cream and has an International menu many pages long? What was the meal you had and what are the prices? Is this place the same as Bailey's price wise. What kind of food / menu. Specifics would be helpful.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1561646]They are both owned by Grupo Ramos, but Super Pola only sells food.

[url]http://www.superpola.com/portada/[/url][/QUOTE]No clothes?

They are missing out on a great market here.

A lot of the chicas in town buy their clothes from at least two senora street vendors, who have a loyal customer base. The source is Puerto Plata, (Jimanies, La Sirena?) but the stuff is custom chosen for the Sosua chicas, and the price is cheap.

The chicas rummage through the bags like they are searching for gold, and they usually find it.

My gf goes through the bag, and everything she held up, was perfect for her. It would take her a couple hours in La Sirena to find something comparable.

Oh, and it would be nice for us guys to have a place where one could buy a couple of spare jockey shorts, if we have the misfortune to hit some angry food.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1562264]A lot of the chicas in town buy their clothes from at least two senora street vendors, who have a loyal customer base. The source is Puerto Plata, (Jimanies, La Sirena?) but the stuff is custom chosen for the Sosua chicas, and the price is cheap.[/QUOTE]I cannot imagine why street-vendors would want to buy stock from a chain-store, even if it were endlines. It is already expensive and they would need to add at least 50% mark-up to be worth their while (normal mark-up is 100%).

They could buy stuff from the pulga much cheaper. And you can find first-world brands which are much better quality than from La Sirena or Jimenez.

But most street vendors don't even do that. They buy (usually sharing with one or more other vendors unles they have a big trade and plenty of space) a large cube of clothes which has been condensed as in a trash or scrapped-car crusher to make it economical to import from Haiti, as volume costs more than weight. They have no way of knowing what is inside and no doubt half is unsaleable to affluent buyers. That half they give away or sell for a few pesos to Haitians, but the rest they sell for five to ten times the buying price.

I have seen them unload these cubes from the truck. The stuff is so condensed that when they cut the metal bands it almost explodes, and one cube which filled half a smallish truck contains enough clothes to fill a small hall once "liberated".

My girlfriend is close friends with two different Haitian street-vendors and is pestering me to set her up in the same business. From them she buys me first-world brand shirts (100 pesos) and boxers (50 pesos) which would cost four times as much in La Sirena for inferior quality.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1562264]It would take her a couple hours in La Sirena to find something comparable.[/QUOTE]A bit of an exaggeration? You could look at every woman's clothing item in La Sirena in 30 minutes. I know, because my girlfriend does it most times we shop there unless she is in a hurry to get home to her f*cking novelas. And I am sure any chica would immediately dismiss three-quarters as not worth looking at because of size, style or color.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1562329]I cannot imagine why street-vendors would want to buy stock from a chain-store, even if it were endlines. It is already expensive and they would need to add at least 50% mark-up to be worth their while (normal mark-up is 100%).

They could buy stuff from the pulga much cheaper. And you can find first-world brands which are much better quality than from La Sirena or Jimenez.

But most street vendors don't even do that. They buy (usually sharing with one or more other vendors unles they have a big trade and plenty of space) a large cube of clothes which has been condensed as in a trash or scrapped-car crusher to make it economical to import from Haiti, as volume costs more than weight. They have no way of knowing what is inside and no doubt half is unsaleable to affluent buyers. That half they give away or sell for a few pesos to Haitians, but the rest they sell for five to ten times the buying price.

I have seen them unload these cubes from the truck. The stuff is so condensed that when they cut the metal bands it almost explodes, and one cube which filled half a smallish truck contains enough clothes to fill a small hall once "liberated".

My girlfriend is close friends with two different Haitian street-vendors and is pestering me to set her up in the same business. From them she buys me first-world brand shirts (100 pesos) and boxers (50 pesos) which would cost four times as much in La Sirena for inferior quality.

A bit of an exaggeration? You could look at every woman's clothing item in La Sirena in 30 minutes. I know, because my girlfriend does it most times we shop there unless she is in a hurry to get home to her f*cking novelas. And I am sure any chica would immediately dismiss three-quarters as not worth looking at because of size, style or color.[/QUOTE]Good info there Charles.

I must admit I'm not familiar with the technicalities of the business.

I'm just saying that I'm constantly impressed with the way stuff gets moved down there.

Those street signoras seem to act as personal shoppers for my LP and her barrista chicas. They don't just carry a bunch of random women's wear. It is definitely targeted. They know what the chicas are looking for.

Case in point, LP was looking for new sunglasses and we checked out the two big stores in PP. Didn't find any that really suited her. Even though I'm usually picking up the tab we often come away with nothing special, because she says, too expensive.

Fast forward to the corner bar. Senora comes in with a rack of sunglasses. She tries a few on and no kidding there were at least 3 pairs that were stylish and suited her perfectly.

Same with the clothes. They almost emptied the bag.

I just want to give credit to those vendors who "know" what will move, and who wants it. Very efficient.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1562329]I cannot imagine why street-vendors would want to buy stock from a chain-store, even if it were endlines.[/QUOTE]Thank you Charles Pooter. Learned something new and interesting.

Speaking of shopping time though, I had once an invitee from Bonao visit the 3 Jimenez in downtown Pto Pta. It took easily 2-3 hours. So much so, that I lost patience, left her and went back later to pick her up. Your woman, being a pro in the business may get by faster.

Oakie, almost every clothing item which is sold in SOSua is at least second hand at best! That's why one has to travel to tienda Jimenez or La Sirena.

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1562378]Case in point, LP was looking for new sunglasses and we checked out the two big stores in PP. Didn't find any that really suited her. Even though I'm usually picking up the tab we often come away with nothing special, because she says, too expensive.

Fast forward to the corner bar. Senora comes in with a rack of sunglasses. She tries a few on and no kidding there were at least 3 pairs that were stylish and suited her perfectly.[/QUOTE]And I hope you didn't pay more than 100 pesos for a pair. That is what I got mine for from the roving sunglasses guy. Of course he started at 500 pesos.

[QUOTE=Questner;1562429]Oakie, almost every clothing item which is sold in SOSua is at least second hand at best! That's why one has to travel to tienda Jimenez or La Sirena.[/QUOTE]I don't see why they need be. Easy enough to buy new stuff for peanuts as I just explained. It is obvious they are not secondhand. When you get several identical items they are not going to be used.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1562401]Thank you Charles Pooter. Learned something new and interesting.

Speaking of shopping time though, I had once an invitee from Bonao visit the 3 Jimenez in downtown Pto Pta. It took easily 2-3 hours. So much so, that I lost patience, left her and went back later to pick her up. Your woman, being a pro in the business may get by faster.[/QUOTE]That's a different story. Jimenez is a specialist clothes store and there are three branches in Pto Plata. It would take a day at least to look through their stock rapidly, especially as so much of it is just heaped up with no distinction as to size. La Sirena just has four bays of womens clothing mostly hung on rails.

A chica working at BB told me that her friend set up a store at her home. She bought Louis Vuitton, Michael Kors and other expensive labels at Santo Domingo, and resold them to chicas at Sosua and Puerto Plata. Not sure it is true though. Cannot believe this business model can actually work out.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1560583]I am not surprised that you experienced customer service even on a weekend. So far their promptness, availability and professional service online or on the phone has been excellent.[/QUOTE]Just a follow up: CS did indeed reimburse my account on the 30th of the banks' ATM charges in Sosua.

I'm a true believer!

Selling counterfeit luxury brands for prices comparable with Walmart stuff may work in DR.

[QUOTE=StrawBoy;1562778]A chica working at BB told me that her friend set up a store at her home. She bought Louis Vuitton, Michael Kors and other expensive labels at Santo Domingo, and resold them to chicas at Sosua and Puerto Plata. Not sure it is true though. Cannot believe this business model can actually work out.[/QUOTE]

I think you are right.

The chica told me these are genuine Louis Vuitton. Gucci, and Michael Kors. This is hard to believe.

The genuine ones are already too expensive. And how can they can resell it with a mark-up? I do not even think girls working at BB or Sosua bars can afford real ones.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1562924]Selling counterfeit luxury brands for prices comparable with Walmart stuff may work in DR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrawBoy; 1563016]I think you are right.

The chica told me these are genuine Louis Vuitton. Gucci, and Michael Kors. This is hard to believe.

The genuine ones are already too expensive. And how can they can resell it with a mark-up? I do not even think girls working at BB or Sosua bars can afford real ones.[/QUOTE]Of course they're counterfeit, a Louis Vuitton bag costs thousands of dollars. I had a BB girl show me her watch, it was a Chanel knockoff, she claimed it was real and got wicked pissed off when I told her it was fake. She said she paid 10 thousand pesos for it so it must be real, I told her a real Chanel watch costs 300 thousand or more, wow did she get pissed at me.

Could not take off enough days to enjoy in Phi. Work committments.

Got a deal on Jetblue to pop going in Friday coming back on Monday for $520 from syracuse, NY.

Landed at 1. 30 PM. Rented a car with full ins. Went to Plaza Europa. Nice big room with three porno channels.

Went for a legit massage. Nice massage. The place is opp Rocky, s.

While coming out noticed a nice young girl in the waiting rom. She mentioned that she was there for a interview for massage position. Called her outside and asked her if she wanted to come to my room and how much. She said she is from Puerto Plata and can stay with me for 2hours for 1500 pesos. Negotiated down to 1000 pesos. She was surprisingly good in bed although lacking a bit in the looks department. Nice big boobs. We had two sessions and she left her number for me to call her. Very pleasant smelling pussy. I ended up giving her 1500 pesos because she really satisfied me. She stayed for three hours and really liked to watch the porno channels.

Took a nap because of long flight and nice session. Got up around 7 PM and went to Rumba. Met a fellow American and he explained to me that all the girls are in Rumba till 11 PM and they go to Classico till 3 AM closing time. After that they all go to the Casino disco which is close to the way to the each. This one is open till 6 AM.

Most of the girls are older and seem to be regulars there. None I would classify as pretty.

Some girls are really agessive. There were couple of reasonably ok girls and I asked them how much. One told me 100 dollars. I laughed at her. But she would not budge from it. Obviously soebody must be paying. The other wanted 2500 for one hour and $100 for all night. Ignored both and went and had a nice fried fish dinner. Very good food cheap for 250 pesos. In addition they served soup which was delicious This place on the same side as Europa two blocks down going away from town. In faci I ate there a lot.

By 11 PM I was at classico. My plan was to get a all nighter. Saw few promising girls because by this time reasonably better looking girls started arriving. Three girls agreed for LT. I negotiated them down to 2500. Two backed out saying they cannot stay all night and one agreed. This was a fake blond thin and small boobs. In the room she started asking for money upfront. Immediately I realized I made a mistake. I told her I will give her only 1500 for one shot because I did not like demanding money. She agreed. Surprisingly she was very good in bed, super horny.

We had a good time for about and hour. She would not take a shower but only washed her pussy. There was no bad smell. I guess she did not want to ruin her make up. Later I saw her in Latino.

Unlike Asian countries it is hard to get super friendly girls in Sosua. Tried to get somebody for toda la noche but no takers either for 2500 or because they cannot stay.

OH, How I miss Phi!

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1563173]Met a fellow American and he explained to me that all the girls are in Rumba till 11 PM and they go to Classico till 3 AM closing time.

By 11 PM I was at classico. My plan was to get a all nighter. Saw few promising girls because by this time reasonably better looking girls started arriving.[/QUOTE]So Classico is back open?

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1563173]We had a good time for about and hour. She would not take a shower but only washed her pussy. There was no bad smell. I guess she did not want to ruin her make up. Later I saw her in Latino.[/QUOTE]Or is this a post from years ago?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1563151]Of course they're counterfeit, a Louis Vuitton bag costs thousands of dollars. I had a BB girl show me her watch, it was a Chanel knockoff, she claimed it was real and got wicked pissed off when I told her it was fake. She said she paid 10 thousand pesos for it so it must be real, I told her a real Chanel watch costs 300 thousand or more, wow did she get pissed at me.[/QUOTE]I remember a couple years back, I asked GF what I should bring back on my next trip. She said a new bag. What kind of bag, I asked. She said Dolce-Gabbana. Not being familiar with women's stuff, I said OK.

When I looked around here in Canada, they were several hundred dollars. I told her and said, Are you crazy? No, No, she said, Here in PP. Less than 100 dollars.

So next time in PP, we picked up a beautiful D & G leather bag for about 1, 800 pesos. Everybody is now happy.

A couple months later, that bag was in tatters, completely worn out. Definitely not the real thing.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1563201]So Classico is back open?

Or is this a post from years ago?[/QUOTE]No this post is current. I went there on Friday 2 May.

I believe it is Classico, the bar same side as Rumba next to it. Did not look at the name though.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1561534]I like the convenience of having a car. Gives me the freedom to go anywhere. Bonus is I can pick up local girls sometimes. Apart from nights daytime is boring in Sosua. So I go to Santiago, Puerto Plata etc. If I find a nice girl we go sightseeing during daytime.

Also I like to go visit casinos at the tourist places. Sometimes can meet vacationing girls from Europe.[/QUOTE]I feel likewise. Saturday and Sunday my friends and I drove east on route 5. And then the next day went west as far as Puerto Plata at the Maimon plaza for some fish. At night you can find local bars in many of these small towns where chicas are there drinking and listening to music. On our way back from Maimon plaza, we stopped at FOD. I met a chica there. Took her number and hooked up with her after she got off last night. Nowadays, casas don't want to risk being closed down. Due to trying to regulate or control chicas givng guys their numbers while they are working.

In the past chicas used to be afraid of losing their jobs (in casas) if they were caught exchanging numbers with patrons at their work. But that seems to be a thing of the past. So guys if you stop by a casa and spot a chica you like, don't assume you can't connect with her on her own time. Crack for the number so you can make a hookup when she is off. I suggest negotiating 1st, before you hook up. The chica I hooked up with, I told her I have 2200 for all night. She looked at the number I typed on my phone, and wanted to know if that was US dollars. I said no, and she expressed slight disappointment. I think she was hoping she struck gold with some dude willing to spend a grip. After I brought her back to reality, I suggested that if 2200 pesos was a problem, she can forget it. She piped up real quick and agreed to the 2200.

I have to give this chica some props. She did exactly what I asked of her. She called before she came. That gave me time to get to the spot where I was picking her up. Plus she was on time. In the morning, there was no flipping the script on our agreement. Good chica overall.

But the main point is, having a car and getting around always enhances my time in the DR.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1563319]No this post is current. I went there on Friday 2 May.

I believe it is Classico, the bar same side as Rumba next to it. Did not look at the name though.[/QUOTE]No, that is D'Latino. Classico is on the opposite side of the road above Merengue Bar. I am told it has been open on rare occasions for private functions.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1563201]So Classico is back open?

Or is this a post from years ago?[/QUOTE]I was going to ask the same question, because it wasn't open Saturday or last night! Either that or I need to slow down the Cuba libres!

[quote=charles pooter;1563354]no, that is d'latino. classico is on the opposite side of the road above merengue bar. i am told it has been open on rare occasions for private functions.[/quote]no sense in posting a full trip report, as so many others have been here recently, and there is nothing new to report. but jeez! these nightly fights with broken bottle wielding chicas is getting old. last night was a henny bottle, and a grande presidente bottle! you're guaranteed a fight every night. it's been that way my last 4 trips.

my advice? don't get so trashed that you miss seeing everyone rep001ter and wind up in the center of the empty dance floor with the bottle wielder!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1562793]Just a follow up: CS did indeed reimburse my account on the 30th of the banks' ATM charges in Sosua.

I'm a true believer![/QUOTE]Likewise, I withdrew with my CS debit card before the 30th of April. I did it at the Scotia Bank atm inside the Metro bus station / farmacia. Checked my CS account while online here in the DR and the $2. 78 fee that SB charges was reimbursed. I withdrew yesterday at SB in PP. Both withdrawals were just tests. Plus I earned 31 cents interest on the account.

If I had used my Bank of America debit card, I would have been charged the SB atm fee (approx $2. 78). And then 3% foreign transaction fee that BOA would charge ($7 for a 10000 peso withdrawal). Since CS doesn't charge ATM fees theres no need for a 3% foreign transaction fee to show up in my account to be reimbursed.

Just a reminder for those who need to know. If you make purchases with the debit card, a 1% fee is assessed to your transaction. Many other financial inst. may charge more, like 3% when you make purchases internationally.

[quote=readytogetonit; 1563379]no sense in posting a full trip report, as so many others have been here recently, and there is nothing new to report. but jeez! these nightly fights with broken bottle wielding chicas is getting old. last night was a henny bottle, and a grande presidente bottle! you're guaranteed a fight every night. it's been that way my last 4 trips.

my advice? don't get so trashed that you miss seeing everyone rep001ter and wind up in the center of the empty dance floor with the bottle wielder![/quote]ah. my sosua!

post a report anyway, there's always something to smile about. it's nice for us guys who are not on the ground, just to know nothing does change.

last time, all i saw was a chica throw a local male out of the bar and throw a bar stool at him as he was leaving. she wasn't very big either. you don't want to mess with her! oh, and there's usually a stoned chica lying screaming in the middle of the street and nobody can move her.

unless a friend is involved, stay completely out of it and just enjoy the show!

[quote=readytogetonit; 1563379]no sense in posting a full trip report, as so many others have been here recently, and there is nothing new to report. but jeez! these nightly fights with broken bottle wielding chicas is getting old. last night was a henny bottle, and a grande presidente bottle! you're guaranteed a fight every night. it's been that way my last 4 trips.

my advice? don't get so trashed that you miss seeing everyone rep001ter and wind up in the center of the empty dance floor with the bottle wielder![/quote]i know a chica from puerto plata who is a bad ass and has been working sosua for a year up until this last month when she got into a fight with another chica with a broken bottle. now she refuses to even work sosua. people look at theses chicas like they are barbie dolls with no fighting blood in them but they are wrong. just like anywhere in the world the people who make the most money can be mafioso

[QUOTE=Grub1;1563405]I know a chica from Puerto Plata who is a bad ass and has been working Sosua for a year up until this last month when she got into a fight with another chica with a broken bottle. Now she refuses to even work Sosua. People look at theses chicas like they are Barbie dolls with no fighting blood in them but they are wrong. Just like anywhere in the world the people who make the most money can be Mafioso[/QUOTE]I hear that down there all the time. "She's Mafioso".

I know it usually refers to a bad ass chica, but what exactly is the connection?

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1563415]I hear that down there all the time."She's Mafioso".

I know it usually refers to a bad ass chica, but what exactly is the connection?[/QUOTE]I just made a fool of myself with my genders in Spanish, but wouldn't "She's Mafioso" mean she's a bad ass trannie?

Late report from 4-25 to 4-28, had negocios to attend to once stateside.

Flew into POP around 2:00 Friday, had a driver pick our party of 5 up from the airport, Jose Martinez. You can give him anywhere from $30-$40 each when it's time to go to the airport for departure and he's your driver to and from the airport, arrives at the villa around 9am and stays until you tell him to leave or everyones sleep. Great manager for the others who didn't speak any Spanish. Didn't exchange any money just drove to villa, Residencial Hispaniola. Checked into two 4-bedroom villas, had some friends from Chicago arriving later, and freshened up. There was a guard armed with either a shotgun or machine gun standing about 20 yards from our villa at all times monitoring. Cameras over the whole property and guard shack at entrance that takes all of the chicas ID's so no problems. One day had to bribe the guard 1000 pesos for a chica with no ID but was easily in her 30's for a companion. You can walk in and out to the strip, about 10 minute walk, but you can't walk chicas in you must be in a vehicle for the residents. Paid about $250 / night for each 4 bedroom, maid service, super clean with private pool, wifi, cable with American channels, dispensed water, nice.

[url]www.hispaniolarealestate.com.[/url]

Going back in July and will be staying on the strip until friends arrive and then at casalindacity. Com, apparently some of the group going in July were banned from Residencial hispaniola for losing keys and making noise.

After freshening up went to the exchange at Banco Providencial and exchanged $500 for 43. 17 and went shopping at the SuperMercado. Cooked and ate and hit the strip around 8:30ish. Sat in Rumba for about 30 minutes. Waiter / worker moved a group of chicas from a table right by the door for us and we had Presidentes. Talked to a couple of chicas and interviews went horrible at first. They won't do anal they said. I'd went to Rio last year and I want anal so. Passed on them without getting to $. We packed up and was heading by D'Latins and it was too early. A pretty chica but average body stopped me and interviewed her. 2k pesos for anal and all. I said ok and two of her friends walked over to see where she was going. I took all 3 at 2k each and had Jose drive me back. They claimed to be from Santo Domingo, average looking but very hard workers and I got a great session. All showered and went back to the strip but I couldn't find my companions. Went back to the villa to check and not there and left for the strip again. They were pulling in without 6 chicas in a taxi. One had no I'd so I gave the guard the 1000 pesos to let her enter. They were ok and two were 'free' so I grabbed them both at 1500 pesos each, no anal. Horrible session. Should have expected it since I didn't interview them and the others didn't speak any spanish. Kicked one chica out completely after only head because her attitude was stinky. Did the other and it was average but the deed was done. Showered again and went back to the strip with Jose after dropping them off near that big bus stop on Highway 5. Went into D'Latin for about 20 minutes. Saw a dark skinned faux blonde that was cute enough. 1500 pesos and we were off. In the villa one of my companions chicas had some really beautiful eyes that I just had to have look at me while on my rod. We agreed to switch and swap. I took his and he took mine. Decent session but leche was gone. As was a lot. Just sport banging. Finished and the faux blonde walks in complaining of being banged too hard and her stomach was hurting. She said she was going to get some water and 30 seconds later I heard a loud bang and went to inspect. She walked out to a waiting cab and sped off. Still don't understand what that was about. Went back to the strip searching for a TLN, got one that was cute but had huge DSLs that were just shy of being to large, I wanted to give them a spin. 2500 pesos for an nice session and a morning session. Exchanged whatsapp and took her near the bus stop and dropped her off around 10am.

Cruised around with Jose after going to another cambio. The Super Mercado. Where some exchanged for 42. 2. I didn't. Banco Providencial was closed.

Spotted a chica who I first interviewed the night before who refused anal walking with some short shorts that had me craving. 2500 for her and her friend with anal. Go figure. Session started horribly, I went straight for anal with the friend who took it but was truly mechanical. They wanted more for girl on girl. Chalked that up with not enough interviewing time on the street. Got my fill of her and went to the pretty one I wanted anyway. She couldn't take anal very well and I was about to get frustrated and just got some regular missionary. Very hot and passionate that sent me off within 5 minutes. I was very content because that rarely happens. Dropped them off around noonish. Didn't see anymore chicas I wanted so went back to the villa to get ready for Cabarete.

One of the chicas of a companion said she had a younger sister that was willing to come over. I asked how she looked and she said just like her. She wasn't cute to me but her sis was 21 and she was 28 so I said let me have a look. She agreed that if I didn't like her it was no cost. Jose came back with her and an 18 year old friend. They were cute. Did both sisters and the friend for 2k each. Bad session. No girl on girl with the sister and friend. CBJ that was mechanical and had to do each one at a time and change condoms with a birdbath in between each. Saved the pretty little sister for last and kicked the other two out. Had about an hour session with her that proved to be worth it. Kicked them out and we were off to a beach party.

Skipped Caberete and went to a beach party at a hotel near Sosua beach, don't recall the name. After an hour and a nice cigar found a decent little chica for 1500 pesos. She had a friend. Ok you come too. Got back to the villa and a companion wanted the friend so I said ok. Good session but no anal. Did the deed and we all went to Rumba.

At Rumba my chica went her way and we got a table. I was drained and got a red bull and Corona. Chicas approached and I declined until my energy returned. Had a burger and fries.

They got some wings that I wouldn't even taste. There was an altercation between a drunk guy and I'm guessing a local, the local got tossed, no blows exchanged from what I could see. The companions all found chicas and were ready to go to the villa. My plan was to go get an hour or two nap and come back. After we all loaded into the taxi a cute chica walked across the street to Rumba. Hop on in. I'll sleep in Houston. She called herself Queen and she was a firecracker in the bed. I was like a sparkle, started out bright but fizzed out from all the chicas. LOL. Did the deed and sent her off.

Jose arrives the next morning at 9am and off we go. Energy returned. We went to Mangu's (Or Mangoo's). Comedor Economico Mangu I believe the full name is. A cheap eatery where all the chicas go to eat Dominican food such as fish, chicken and some other stuff. Cost is 50 pesos to about 200 for food and the price is based on the portion you choose. Jose loved the food and I had some sort of fish and rice that was ok. What was nice was the number of chicas that came through there. About 20 hungry chicas passed through there in 30 minutes. I relaxed and nibbled waiting for a good one while Jose was accosting one of waitresses. I told him I'd give him a 1000 pesos bonus if he wanted her. He made a deal that never materialized. In walks a 21 year old cutey that I had to have. Jose got her over to the table. She works next door at Kiras Massage. She's just what I wanted but she wouldn't budge off 2500 pesos even in the daytime. I said ok and we waited about 15 minutes while she went somewhere. Had an excellent session but no anal. She had to go to work, I had to have her again. She said she got off at 7 and I could pick her up then. With anal at additional cost. Yes, I was smitten. If you're out in the morning or daytime I highly recommend stopping by Mangus and just watching the hungry chica parade.

After cooking and cigar shopping we went to the beach. Sosua beach. Around 5pm. Horrible place with trash everywhere. Maybe 2 decent chicas and we were there for almost an hour and a half drinking. I didn't mind much, was messaging my chica the whole time. We had some white Hennessy and other mixed drinks at well stocked bar that was owned by an American or American looking gentleman, forget the name of it. It started to rain lightly so we had to run back to the taxi. She didn't get off until 8 and had to wait another 30 minutes while she finished whatever the hell and who ever the hell she was doing. Grabbed her and left.

Back at the villa we lounged and drank. A companion had a Haitian girl who ate up and drank everything for two days and didn't clean up anything. He got ribbed constantly because she was older, no body and not cute. She magically pulls out some herb to smoke. So three chicas, including mine all went out to the pool to do their deed. My chica didn't drink but had some Tequila after smoking that stuff. She was ready to do the deed and I was too. Fireworks for me. She even pulled it out of her tight little hole and put it in her backdoor without being asked. Went for an hour and I roll over for a breather. She was sleep in less than a minute. I had a rager. I let her sleep and went into the living room to see if any chicas had finished I could pick off to no avail. I didn't feel like going back to the strip. Off to sleep. Woke up and she was sick. My pretty chica from the night before had bags under her eyes and was clutching her stomach. I offered her medicine she declined saying she just needed time. I didn't have time, flight leaves in a couple hours so on your back. Had a great session again despite her 'sickness'. Dropped her off and off to the airport for all of us.

Going back in July and will stay for a week next time. Need time to do more interviewing and less threesomes / foursomes so I can get some GFE that's easily had in Rio. Didn't expect to get it much in Sosua as I was out for numbers this time but it can be had.

Did 16 this trip in 3 days, did 16 in Rio in 6 days. Sosua wins for me because it's just closer to the US, cheaper flight, accommodations and chicas. The chicas are just as pretty but less assy and muscular than Rio (like I prefer) but WAY less commercial than Rio chicas. And if you take your time, interview and be pleasant Sosua seems to be the better of the two for me.

Couple newbie notes: They don't have a chica network like in Rio. They don't all know each other and communicate what you paid, what you want, etc because they all seem to be from different places and converge on Sosua for business. I liked that a lot. In Rio, as soon as you do one chica everyone knows your business and they will even use that info during negotiations.

Interviewing time is money there, the more time you spend doing it is the less you'll pay IMO. I paid more than I probably needed to per chica had I just slowed down. I even missed out on all of the 9's and 10's seeking quantity. Not the next trip.

For a newbie, I didn't understand that the 'strip' in Sosua is an extremely small area of only a few blocks and they're jam packed in there. Walk to everything. Huge plus. I was able to have mixed drinks and get buzzed (nowhere near drunk) without any feeling of threat to safety or belongings.

A couple of the images posted are from the chicas whatsapp.

More pics of the chicas.

More pics of chicas

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1563417]I just made a fool of myself with my genders in Spanish, but wouldn't "She's Mafioso" mean she's a bad ass trannie?[/QUOTE]LOL.

So it doesn't have a more sinister meaning then?

Massage, manicure, pedicure in the morning. Picked up a girl and paid 1000 ST. Session OK. Took a nap and went to Playa Dorada casino in the evening. Got friendly with a cute waitress. Asked her out. She asked permission from the boss and boss said ok. Nice session with her and dinner. After that she suggested going to Cabarete Disco.

This Disco was crowded as hell. Very nice looking girls though. Most are probably with their boyfriends or non working girls. Some obviously were.

We danced got drunk and overall very nice date. The girl suggested I become her Novia. She gave me her number and told me to call her once a week. Very pretty girl with nice boobs and clean pussy. I think she was looking for a husband taking her to USA.

Overall good time was had by both of us. Extremely vocal during sex. Let us leave it at that. She suggested staying at the resort next time. I said maybe. It seems new law is employers cannot interfere with girls personal life and had to give time off if the girl asks for it. Too clingy for sure.

Woke up with the girl fast asleep. When she finally wakes up we had a short session. She complained that she is sore in the pussy. Had to take a ride to Puerto plata to drop her off. She lives in a nice house. She invited me in but I refused saying I am busy. Went for a nice breakfast at Rocky's. Got a massage for one hour. Cost is 1000 peso.

They tried to show me the tourist price card which showed $45 for one hour massage.

While driving back to my hotel I notice two girls walking. I stopped and asked the pretty one the price for ST. She replied $100. I laughed and let it go. The other girl asked me if I can drop them home and I said OK. Just to be safe I dropped them on the main road only rather than interior they wanted me to go. The pretty one had the audacity to ask me why I do not want to pay $100. I countered with 1000. She refused. I do not understand the mentality of these girls. She do not want to make a quick 1000 pesos for maybe 20 minutes of laying down. Oh well!

Had a fish lunch and a nap. Ready to go to rumba in the evening saw a pretty girl waitress in one of the bars. Went in there to have a drink. While talking to her I asked her if she want to go with me. Problem was she gets off at midnight. I told her I will meet her. To while away the time went to a different casino. At about 11. 30 I went to the bar and met her. She was very nice company with a sweet face. Back in the room when she took off her clothes she was chubby. She hid the chubbiness very well. Slept well. This girl is 19 years old with a baby who is 4. Must have got pregnant when she was 15. She lives with her father in a remote mountainous part about 15 minutes away. I had to drop her home.

Come back, massage and off to the airport.

Overall OK experience.

[QUOTE=Sherroid; 1563419]Didn't exchange any money just drove to villa, Residencial Hispaniola. Checked into two 4-bedroom villas, had some friends from Chicago arriving later, and freshened up. There was a guard armed with either a shotgun or machine gun standing about 20 yards from our villa at all times monitoring. Cameras over the whole property and guard shack at entrance that takes all of the chicas I'd's so no problems. One day had to bribe the guard 1000 pesos for a chica with no I'd but was easily in her 30's for a companion. You can walk in and out to the strip, about 10 minute walk, but you can't walk chicas in you must be in a vehicle for the residents. Paid about $250 / night for each 4 bedroom, maid service, super clean with private pool, wifi, cable with American channels, dispensed water, nice.

[url]www.hispaniolarealestate.com.[/url]

Finished and the faux blonde walks in complaining of being banged too hard and her stomach was hurting. She said she was going to get some water and 30 seconds later I heard a loud bang and went to inspect. She walked out to a waiting cab and sped off. Still don't understand what that was about. .[/QUOTE]The hispaniola doesn't call to verify whether its ok to give the Chicas their IDs back? For the type of money they charge for a villa, I would think that would be routine.

Hey Sherroid,

All I can say is DAMN...! I really enjoyed reading your report and viewing your photos. You did the DAMN thing! Thank you for sharing.

PS- Rio does twist you up a bit. LOL!

RR

[QUOTE=Oakie; 1563415]I hear that down there all the time."She's Mafioso".

I know it usually refers to a bad ass chica, but what exactly is the connection?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1563417]I just made a fool of myself with my genders in Spanish, but wouldn't "She's Mafioso" mean she's a bad ass trannie?[/QUOTE]You funny Pooter. Mafioso / Mafiosa is slang for a Crook. I try to be careful when I use it though, because normally when I say it, I'm using it in a jokingly tone, but one day I told this Chica that she was "Mafiosa" and she flipped-out. Saying that it was an insult calling her that. Later on finding out that she was really a thief. So I guess if you throw a rock into a crowd and somebody hollers, their the one it hit.

Peace

[QUOTE=Sherroid;1563419]For a newbie, I didn't understand that the 'strip' in Sosua is an extremely small area of only a few blocks and they're jam packed in there. Walk to everything. Huge plus. I was able to have mixed drinks and get buzzed (nowhere near drunk) without any feeling of threat to safety or belongings.[/QUOTE]Great reporting Sherroid!

The blonde in your first set of pictures was part of my very first happy hours in Sosua around 4 years ago.

Then, you have a picture of crazy ass Patricia with two other naked chicas. Hopefully Patricia was well behaved and left her knifes at home.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1564950]Then, you have a picture of crazy ass Patricia with two other naked chicas. Hopefully Patricia was well behaved and left her knifes at home.

Thanks again![/QUOTE]Tomjackin,

That's not Patty in the pic with the other chicas. She sure favors her, but that particular Chca just hit Sosua around October 13". I can't think of her name but I actually had to give her tips on "Being a Puta", because when I ran across her in D'Latins back in October, looked very bummy and unattractive, asking people to buy her cerveza. I could tell that she was new to the game, so I gave her some tips. The last time that I saw her in March, it looked like she took my advice and stepped up her game. I actually took her a couple of times and her services were better than average.

Peace

[QUOTE=Sherroid; 1563419}

In walks a 21 year old cutey that I had to have.[/QUOTE]It is nice to actually have that option. Looks like you had a great time

[QUOTE=Klove48;1565095]That's not Patty in the pic with the other chicas. She sure favors her, but that particular Chca just hit Sosua around October 13".[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are right. The last picture favors her a lot. But after going back and looking for her tattoos, I realized it was not Patty.

I could not image having her with two other girls; it would be the death of me for sure.:)

does anybody know this guy? he said he thought the girls that someone got for him were 16 when they were really 15.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/tsa-supervisor-busted-sex-****-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724[/url]

Back from an 8 day trip after being gone for two years. Many changes with the bars closed off with windows, little fresh air and more hard core chicas then before. New Garden has a new policy, no more chicas sitting around the pool during the day unless you bring them in. I saw chicas try to come in and they were just turned away at the door. Most afternoons when I sat at the pool it was me and the two local dogs on lounge chairs, depressing. Yes off season but it was never like this before. I like to scuba dive and that was only fair at best. With the absence of those afternoon chicas no reason to return. Hope the hotel changes their policy, I let them know it was a disappointment. Curacao gets my vote for the next monger trip, Campo Allegre has much more to offer.

[quote=simpleminded; 1565254]does anybody know this guy? he said he thought the girls that someone got for him were 16 when they were really 15.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/tsa-supervisor-busted-sex-****-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724[/url][/quote]
this is the article without the pictures (to save space):

[i]a tsa supervisor was charged friday with having sex with **** girls in the dominican republic, federal authorities said.

vernon lythcott was arrested on the jetway at kennedy airport as he was about to board a flight to the dominican republic. his second trip to the caribbean island since january.

lythcott. 48, of brooklyn, paid two 15-year-old girls to have sex with him for $80, according to a complaint filed in brooklyn federal court.

it is illegal for usa citizens to have sex with someone under the age of 16 or a prostitute under the age of 18 anywhere in the world.

a homeland security agent stationed in the dominican republic was tipped off about an american tourist engaging in sex with the teens and interviewed both victims, special agent karine stewart stated in the complaint.

'the victims also reported that during the course of that night they had used vernon lythcott's cellular telephone to check their facebook accounts and had also 'friended' lythcott on facebook, ' stewart stated.

'lythcott also used an application on his phone to translate sexual instructions from english to spanish. '

lythcott, who supervises security screeners at kennedy airport, allegedly admitted to the agents that he had sex for money with the girls but thought they were 16. which is still illegal. he also acknowledged that someone had procured women for him to have sex with on about 45 trips and they were always older than 18.

assistant usa attorney tyler smith said in court that lythcott was carrying $2, 470 in usa currency and $750 in dominican pesos when he was arrested.

the tsa suspended him without pay and will begin the process of terminating lythcott from his $59, 000-a-year job.

magistrate steven gold released the alleged pervert on $250, 000 bail and ordered him to steer clear of locations where children congregate, like toys stores, schoolyards, fast food restaurants and the children's section of a library.

lythcott's lawyer declined to comment. [/i]

i do not know who the guy is but it is a lesson to be learned. he did quite a number of mistakes that many of us should avoid.

the first mistake is having sex with a minor. this is obvious.

the second mistake is that he is in a security job (in a position, out of all things, that is the departure and entry point from, when traveling to the dr!). let us face it if some guy is going to the dr without any family, is not dominican, and no indications of business dealings what is one to think! this holds true even for the philippines and thailand. with such an obvious security job people pay attention more.

third, he probably mentioned it to some of the workers at his job (heck, i've talked to workers at my job about this stuff. who doesn't? someone at the guy's job likely tipped off the tsa in dr. i mean, the guy went to the dr 45 times. it is hard not to notice. i've since learned to use discretion in the states when discussing my vacations.). they probably knew what he was doing all along.

the girls used his cell phone. i would never allow a chica to use my personal phone because of all the contact information on it and rarely allow them to use my dr phone, unless i really trust the chia, or it is on someone else's name. i do not want the chicas to have any extra contact information on me since it can open up a can of worms. i've had chicas call and email me for money. and there is also the small chance that they can make allegations against you and use this contact information to track you down.

he admitted to assuming that the chicas were 16 years old. obviously he must have said something before hiring a lawyer. i would have denied everything and then when getting the lawyer have him do all the explaining.

he friended them on facebook. well, talk about leaving a trail! the tsa is likely now to look at all his friends on facebook. (in fact, two of the pictures in the article are from lythcott's facebook account).

i would never admit that someone procured women for me to have sex with. it sounds like pimping and now gives the impression that he is soliciting prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Boriman; 1565271]A Homeland Security agent stationed in the Dominican Republic was tipped off about an American tourist engaging in sex with the teens and interviewed both victims, special agent Karine Stewart stated in the complaint.

'The victims also reported that during the course of that night they had used Vernon Lythcott's cellular telephone to check their Facebook accounts and had also 'friended' Lythcott on Facebook, ' Stewart stated.

'Lythcott also used an application on his phone to translate sexual instructions from English to Spanish. '

[/QUOTE]Now that must be a great job. An American working as a Homeland Security Agent, based in the DR? Where do I sign up?

[QUOTE=Mose;1565262]Back from an 8 day trip after being gone for two years. Many changes with the bars closed off with windows, little fresh air and more hard core chicas then before. New Garden has a new policy, no more chicas sitting around the pool during the day unless you bring them in. I saw chicas try to come in and they were just turned away at the door. Most afternoons when I sat at the pool it was me and the two local dogs on lounge chairs, depressing. Yes off season but it was never like this before. I like to scuba dive and that was only fair at best. With the absence of those afternoon chicas no reason to return. Hope the hotel changes their policy, I let them know it was a disappointment. Curacao gets my vote for the next monger trip, Campo Allegre has much more to offer.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls who hang at the pool are pigs, anyway. Much better selections walking the streets, and at the beach.

The problem with curacao, is campo is dead during the day. The best girls are sleeping, since they were working all night. Only a few to choose from, and they are usually the bottom feeders.

[quote=simpleminded; 1565254]does anybody know this guy? he said he thought the girls that someone got for him were 16 when they were really 15.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/tsa-supervisor-busted-sex-****-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724[/url][/quote]it's guys like that who give the rest of us a bad name. it's bad enough we go through scrutiny just going to the dr; now people will try to associate it with "going for **** women".

that guy is finished forever with his face plastered all over the internet like that. he should just move to the dr (after his prison sentence), buy him a moto and become a motochonco because he'll never work in the us again.

[url]http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/lythcott-complaint.pdf[/url]

[quote=savepros321; 1565432]it's guys like that who give the rest of us a bad name. it's bad enough we go through scrutiny just going to the dr; now people will try to associate it with "going for **** women".

that guy is finished forever with his face plastered all over the internet like that. he should just move to the dr (after his prison sentence) , buy him a moto and become a motochonco because he'll never work in the us again.[/quote]

another newspaper article talked about the tsa agent being stopped in kennedy and when they looked at the guy's cell phone he had photos of the **** chicas he had sex with.

in a previous post when cubadave arrived to miami tsa agents were checking his camera and computer for pictures. i guess just to be on the safe side whenever taking pictures, put it on a sim card and have it separated from the camera and computer.

[quote=boriman; 1565685]another newspaper article talked about the tsa agent being stopped in kennedy and when they looked at the guy's cell phone he had photos of the **** chicas he had sex with.

in a previous post when cubadave arrived to miami tsa agents were checking his camera and computer for pictures. i guess just to be on the safe side whenever taking pictures, put it on a sim card and have it separated from the camera and computer.[/quote]too bad the internet is so slow in the dr or i would suggest uploading all your pictures to your cloud account. (unfortunately, i take a lot of video too, so it would take months to upload it)

[quote=boriman;1565685]in a previous post when cubadave arrived to miami tsa agents were checking his camera and computer for pictures. i guess just to be on the safe side whenever taking pictures, put it on a sim card and have it separated from the camera and computer.[/quote]if you don't have sex with **** girls, why worry about the photos on your camera or computer?

some 20+years old chicas may look **** to some people. it seems that it is safer to erase all photos from the camera when you travel. it's quite easy to upload your photos / videos on on the cloud, use hdd or store it on the tablet or laptop, of course everything must be password protected.

and if your camera will be lost or stolen, very personal photos will not end up all over internet.

[quote=tomjackin;1565719]if you don't have sex with **** girls, why worry about the photos on your camera or computer?[/quote]

[quote=tomjackin;1565719]if you don't have sex with **** girls, why worry about the photos on your camera or computer?[/quote]exactly, it's not against the law to have pictures of naked girls. i've traveled all over the place with my laptop and / or my ipad with shitloads of pictures and have yet to have them look at my electronics and i get pulled into "secondary" by usa immigration every time i reenter the usa due to a person with the same name as me being on the bad guy list.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1565876]I get pulled into "secondary" by USA immigration every time I reenter the USA due to a person with the same name as me being on the bad guy list.[/QUOTE]

You and I are on the same boat. Its getting to the point they all remember me in ATL and MIA and say " know the routine".

[quote=boriman; 1565685]another newspaper article talked about the tsa agent being stopped in kennedy and when they looked at the guy's cell phone he had photos of the **** chicas he had sex with.

it's too bad this sort of thing goes on.

one would hope the local authorities might be a little concerned also with the d. r. nationals, who routinely get **** girls pregnant.

it's a mark of pride with some of the locals.

the kids from charamicos, who i've known for years, presented me with their pride and joy bambinos, my first trip down their this year.

they were 15 and 17, with not a father in sight.

GrownMan1; 1565890]You and I are on the same boat. Its getting to the point they all remember me in ATL and MIA and say " know the routine".[/QUOTE]They have been pulling me into secondary inspection a great deal lately. The last time they did this I raised hell back there. I asked them why they were constantly doing this and they would not give me an answer. They would ask me why am I not bringing back a lot of bags. & I would flippantly ask them how many bags does your 007 manual say I am supposed to return with? And the more I raised hell the more officers that showed up. & I did not care. I've fought in two wars for my country and pay my taxes. I'm not going to be challenged upon re entering my own country like I am an alien. Especially by someone that is probably 20 years younger than me. And I point blank told them if they want a naked inspection I'll give it to him. I started to take my shirt off-you should have seen the horror on their faces as they said "no no you don't have to".

I distinctly remember to women who were from Argentina in front of me. The guy we've been through without even thinking twice I show up at the counter in the guy without even looking at me send me to secondary inspection. So you're not going to tell me they're not profiling.

Showdown

[QUOTE=Showdown;1566254]GrownMan1; 1565890]
I distinctly remember to women who were from Argentina in front of me. The guy we've been through without even thinking twice I show up at the counter in the guy without even looking at me send me to secondary inspection. So you're not going to tell me they're not profiling.

Showdown[/QUOTE]I can't speak for why they send you into secondary but in my case it is somewhat justified and I have no problem with it. I have the same exact name and birthdate of someone on the no fly list. It was explained to me that the agents in the booths at border patrol are not allowed to pass someone through under these circumstances as my passport is flagged because of what I mentioned. When I go into secondary the agents cross reference my SS# and my passport # and without asking me a single question I am usually out of there in a flash because USA citizens are given priority over the roomful of foreigners. The first few times they didn't explain to me what the hell the reason was but on about the third or fourth time I insisted that someone explain to me why this was happening and it was explained to me in detail. In my opinion those guys at the border are fighting a war every day just like you did, most of the world hates us and would love to enter our country and wreak havoc upon us, border patrol and immigration is the first line of defense, I personally commend the job that they do.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1566305]I can't speak for why they send you into secondary but in my case it is somewhat justified and I have no problem with it. I have the same exact name and birthdate of someone on the no fly list. It was explained to me that the agents in the booths at border patrol are not allowed to pass someone through under these circumstances as my passport is flagged because of what I mentioned. When I go into secondary the agents cross reference my SS# and my passport # and without asking me a single question I am usually out of there in a flash because USA citizens are given priority over the roomful of foreigners. The first few times they didn't explain to me what the hell the reason was but on about the third or fourth time I insisted that someone explain to me why this was happening and it was explained to me in detail. In my opinion those guys at the border are fighting a war every day just like you did, most of the world hates us and would love to enter our country and wreak havoc upon us, border patrol and immigration is the first line of defense, I personally commend the job that they do.[/QUOTE]Mani I had the exact same problems a few years ago because of confusion about my name. I eventually filed a complaint and after six months the investigation was complete. I was given an apology and a reference number that I put in whenever I book a ticket. Since then I have not been sent to secondary once in the last two years.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1566305]In my opinion those guys at the border are fighting a war every day just like you did, most of the world hates us and would love to enter our country and wreak havoc upon us, border patrol and immigration is the first line of defense, I personally commend the job that they do.[/QUOTE]Standing at the line of fire is a very different story than being in an aircon room and busting balls of most law abiding citizens. No comparison to my mind. The TSA is nothing but a jobs program. Indeed, it would be nice to change policies so the whole world would not "hate us" instead of such indignities at the hands of the high school dropouts, just coming home and more so, when these law enforcers are the ones that get busted as in the story in question or for gaming the system with disability pension scams, as is well known.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1566331]Mani I had the exact same problems a few years ago because of confusion about my name. I eventually filed a complaint and after six months the investigation was complete. I was given an apology and a reference number that I put in whenever I book a ticket. Since then I have not been sent to secondary once in the last two years.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that info Gogo, I'll look into that.

Checked in with Peter through his Facebook account since there had been no news there for a couple of months. He says that with the passage of time it's getting harder and harder to get things done, not easier, and that he had no good news to report, so anyone holding out hopes of a grand reopening should probably cultivate some new dreams. It's a shame, but it's not really surprising.

Are the New Garden girls that are being turned away daytime going anywhere else instead? The beach, or the Casa Cayena pool, or some such? Also, what is defined as "daytime"? Or are they being turned away at night too?

Well, no need to deal with an agent for immigration if you have a US passport at MIA. Just scan the passport at the Kiosks and answer some questions online, pose for the camera and it prints out a receipt wth you picture. Give it to the agent and you are good to go. Not so easy for permanent residents as they still have to deal with an officer, finger prints etc.

The customs guys however have their customary questions for everyone. Just answer in general and no details unless they prod you. This guy was particular on how many times I have been to the DR, less than 10 or more? Like its some magic number. Whatever. There is no need to worry unless you are already on a list or have an arrest record of some sort in the US (or someone with your name has a violation like members are saying here).

Its even more easier if you have Global Entry, looks like they bypass customs too unless they are picked for a random check.

http://www.jaunted.com/story/2013/11/15/6393/6246/travel/Four+US+Airports+are+Already+Rocking+Awesome+New+Automatic+Passport+Kiosks

Took the DP300 half hour traffic filled taxi trip from Boutique Hotel Palacio to Caribe Tours station in Santo Domingo, then the DP330 five hour Caribe bus journey to Sosua followed by the DP250 five minute taxi trip to hotel. I needed a locale with a beach; Rio's too expensive and Pattaya is too far so here I am in Playa Sosua after an absence of exactly six years. I had not returned earlier because of poor service received on my last trip. If the same happens this time around at least I would have the ambiance of the beach environment. Walking around I've seen some good prospects, I'm pretty optimistic. Reports on chicas to follow.

Sosua News 16 May 2014.

Pedro Clisante soon free of traffic.

The die is cast: from 1 June, a part of the main street Pedro Clisante will be closed for traffic from 6 PM until 6 AM.

This means that the restaurants can put their tables out on the street and that the guests are not bothered by racing motorcycles and their stench and noise anymore.

At the corner of the Bermuda Bar (better known as the bar of thick Herman) and the Rumba Bar, preparations have been made, they placed poles in the sidewalk which makes it easy to close to road with a barrier. Also on the corner of the pizzeria 'Little NY Pizza' (formerly Pluto Bar or Happy Bar) they have placed these poles to close the road for traffic easily.

Most restaurant and bar owners are very pleased with this decision of the municipal council. What's left is to search for a solutions for the visitors who come by car to the Pedro Clisante and now lost their parking space.

Hey guys, I was in Sosua for 10 days in March, after 10 days in Santo Domingo. Thought I would post about it before things start to fade from my memory. On the whole have to say I had a great time. Everything about the place was miles better than when I was last there in August / September 2011, then it was pretty dead and far too hot. There was much more life about the place this time, loads more good looking women, a better / friendlier atmosphere, and the motoconcho guys and street touts in general hassled me much less. I guess I have also learned the art of ignoring them better than before. There were several new bars and restaurants around, which added to the general improvement of the town. Felt very safe there too, even walking around at night.

When I was last there, girls couldn't walk 10 metres from bar to bar without fear of being arrested, this time there was no sign of police arresting anybody as far as I could tell, girls wandered around as they liked by day and by night.

There is a strange thing that happens to me when I'm in the Dominican Republic though. When I'm here in Belgium I spend at least 50 % of my time thinking about women and sex, possibly because it's boring, or cold, and you're dying for fun and excitement to get you away from your problems. But after a few days in the DR I felt so relaxed and genuinely chilled out, that sex just become one thing on your mind instead of the only thing. Being in the sun, being away from your worries, just having easy going conversations with people, you are happy, even sometimes without getting laid believe it or not! In 10 days in Sosua, I was only with 4 chicks, 3 from the'Latins and one I met just out walking during the day. Took loads of phone numbers of other chicks from the'Latins though, hopefully to use in the near future. It's also I guess because I also think about the social side of things there, the poverty, why it's so easy to get a gorgeous chick etc. I can't just be mercenary and selfish on a daily basis.

Regarding mongering, usually started out at the large sports bar (sorry, name escapes me) 2 along from the'Latins in the late afternoon, usually the best chicks only arrived there in the evening, before heading off to the'Latins around 11 pm. The'Latins is a fun place, but it's not really the best place to chat / meet girls. Sure, you can pull most women you want there, but when you're busy buying drinks, pushing your way through the crowd, talking to other punters, you might find you have spent half the night there doing that, instead of concentrating on why you went therein the first place! Also some of the girls there, especially in groups, try to act like they they're not looking for business, even if they are in reality. Trying to look and act classy and unavailable, even though you could have any of them for 2000 peso if you bothered to ask! This can be off-putting. By the way, I paid 2000 peso each for all 4 women I was with. The first quoted 1500, but she was so gorgeous and performed well that I decided to give her a propina of another 500 peso!

It's hard to generalise about the place / women in D'Latins, but as with Classico's before, many of the girls in the'Latins look / act like such pro's that they are just not attractive to me, and though they will give you their phone number with no reservation, if they do it with no smile / no chit chat or enthusiasm, I personally have no interest in taking them back to my place. There were a couple of girls in particular, who had bodies which just knocked me out, but seemed so boring and disinterested, not just in me, but in general, that this put me off! Maybe the heat drains their energy levels and makes them lazy, who knows?

The more often I went there, the less sexy the place became. My second last night, I had little interest in any of the chicks there, and I was questioning myself, ie 'What's wrong with me, why didn't I bring any chicks back from there'. I even found the little bartender girl at the far end bar (where they serve food too) better looking and sexier than most of the girls in there, maybe simply because she was not on of them and was dressed like a regular chica? But then the next day, just coming out of the small supermarket near the casino, I saw the hottest looking little chick, very pretty, big rack and denim shorts. I said Hi to her and we sat in the park beside the casino and I arranged to meet her at my appartment an hour later. Just talking to her I had a serious hard on, she was so gorgeous, very friendly and with a non-pro attittude, I had never seen her before in Sosua and definitely never in the bars there either, she came up from Santo Domingo the same day (or so she said!) Anyway, my point is that I was fine and looking for hot ladies, just that the chicks in the'Latins were not doing if for me the last few nights, but she definitely was! I did pull 3 chicks out of the'Latins though, including a huge titted mulatta from Santiago on my second night, and a slim hipped but equally huge titted black girl from Puerto Plata. Is there a pattern developing here?

There's another reason also why I was so casual about getting laid there. Like another guy at my apartment complex said to me, 'When the fridge is full, you're not hungry!' Its true, when it's so easy to get laid and you've got time on your hands, you kind of think, OK, so if I don't get laid today, then I can get laid tomorrow!

As last time there, I tended to eat a lot at Baileys. I like the space and informality of the place and get on well with the staff there. It is quite expensive though compared to other places.

Anyway, on the whole I had a great time, as much because I felt relaxed there, and Sosua had improved so much; than because of the sex side of things. I hope to be come back soon, that's for sure!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1568466]s.
.. some of the girls there,...., try to act like they they're not looking for business, even if they are in reality. Trying to look and act classy and unavailable, even though you could have any of them... if you bothered to ask! This can be off-putting. .... seemed so boring and disinterested, not just in me, but in general, that this put me off! [/QUOTE]This was the impression I got from my maiden voyage to Pattaya, a real disappointment. Will be returning to Sosua in the next few days, and getting quite excited. Thanks for the report!

Was thinking about coming back to Sosua in June, but have never been there then. Was wondering about a couple of things. Firstly, is it much hotter than when I was there in March? As hot (or hotter?) than when I was there in late August / early September? March was hot enough for me, I don't think I would enjoy it much hotter!

How busy is it in June, does it get much less chicks than in March? Dead early in the week maybe? Or won't I notice the difference from when I was there in March. I know the low season has started, but don't really know the details of the ups and downs in chicas / tourists during the summer months. Any advice would be welcome guys !

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1568466] It's also I guess because I also think about the social side of things there, the poverty, why it's so easy to get a gorgeous chick etc. I can't just be mercenary and selfish on a daily basis.[/QUOTE]Enjoyed your comments and note your sense of humor as in interest in big breasted women...LOL.

I would think lack of opportunities entice women anywhere in the world do what you are speaking of the German FKKs are full of the East Europeans / Russians but as long as there is no exploitation or abuse, I do not see why the laws of demand and supply are bad as most moralists tend to make it. Having said that, and given that you are Belgian, it should be fairly easy for you to handle Spanish and move on from the pros to something more challenging. The beauty of the DR is that (I am told there are other places in South America as well).

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1568466], big rack and denim shorts. including a huge titted mulatta from Santiago on my second night, and a slim hipped but equally huge titted black girl from Puerto Plata. Is there a pattern developing here?[/QUOTE]Ya Mon., this is the type of pattern I like!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1568466]

It's hard to generalise about the place / women in D'Latins, but as with Classico's before, many of the girls in the'Latins look / act like such pro's that they are just not attractive to me, and though they will give you their phone number with no reservation, if they do it with no smile / no chit chat or enthusiasm, I personally have no interest in taking them back to my place. There were a couple of girls in particular, who had bodies which just knocked me out, but seemed so boring and disinterested, not just in me, but in general, that this put me off! Maybe the heat drains their energy levels and makes them lazy, who knows?

The more often I went there, the less sexy the place became. My second last night, I had little interest in any of the chicks there, and I was questioning myself, ie 'What's wrong with me, why didn't I bring any chicks back from there'. I even found the little bartender girl at the far end bar (where they serve food too) better looking and sexier than most of the girls in there, maybe simply because she was not on of them and was dressed like a regular chica![/QUOTE]I feel somewhat the same way. When I am mongering in Sosua and the chicas no matter how well they look- looks too mechanical it turns me off. The less mechanical she looks the more it stimulates the adventure. I guess some people like to fish at the market and some enjoy the fish that the caught on their own.

I believe I've hit on the reason why I generally get sub par service from Dominican pros. It is possibly because I spend as little time as possible with them before heading to my room. Case in point last night after taking in the stage show on Pedro Clisante I headed over to Rumba's around 9.00 pm and immediately pulled a chica who caught my fancy. Not worth wasting readers' time with the details. She was gone and I was fast asleep by midnight.

As a previous poster has said the women are quite nonchalant in the clubs. I believe that is because they are proud and do not enjoy what they are doing. I think they prefer if you treat them like a girlfriend rather than slam bam which is what I do. This is unlike the Brazilianas who generally enjoy their job.

On another note, as has also been posted before, I have noticed that Sosua is much more lively than when I was last here in 2008. There is just so much more happening. There are much more women and much hotter than back then. One down side for me is that there are much less Haitians than on my last visit. Back then the Haitians saved the day for me.

After lunch today (Sunday) I went down to la playa, it was teeming with hundreds of hot chicas, got smiles from some but unfortunately my Espanol is not good enough to help me here. Must learn Spanish as I enjoy soaking in the ambiance of the locals. For those who like doing the same I recommend eating at a small restaurant called 'Comedor Economico Mangu' on the other side of Dr. Rosen on Pedro Clisante next to Lynda's. Real Dominican atmosphere.

I know this topic has been covered before but can't seem to locate what I'm looking for using the search feature. Can someone please identify the pharmacy in Sosua that has the best pricing for 100 mg generic Viagra that works. Don't want to buy from the "hawkers" on the street. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1569692]I know this topic has been covered before but can't seem to locate what I'm looking for using the search feature. Can someone please identify the pharmacy in Sosua that has the best pricing for 100 mg generic Viagra that works. Don't want to buy from the "hawkers" on the street. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Latino Minimarket, located on Calle Alejandro Martinez, near Bologna restaurant. That is where the street hawkers get their supplies.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1569701]Latino Minimarket, located on Calle Alejandro Martinez, near Bologna restaurant. That is where the street hawkers get their supplies.[/QUOTE]Have you bought Viagra there yourself and does it work, what about pricing. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1569799]Have you bought Viagra there yourself and does it work, what about pricing. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Does cialis work for you? You can buy generic cialis (LaPela) at any pharmacy. It was 60 pesos a tablet last time I heard. I am no stud but half a tablet worked for me.

With all these things there are always some guys it doesn't work for, or gives unpleasant side-effects. And can vary with the same guy from day to day. I have heard very few complainets about La Pela, though. On one long trip I was taking it most days for four weeks and I started to get dizzy spells so I stopped. May not even have been that. It was blazing hot that summer and I am ancient. Viagra makes me very flushed in the face but other guys have no problem with it.

It is all trial and error as to what works for you, and maybe a good idea to desist after a while, like I did, or change to something different to avoid too much build-up in your metabolism.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1569805] On one long trip I was taking it most days for four weeks and I started to get dizzy spells so I stopped. [/QUOTE]Confused but isn't Cialis (and equivalents) for a multiple day effect as against Viagra which I understand lasts only for several hours / a day?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1569805]Does cialis work for you? You can buy generic cialis (LaPela) at any pharmacy. It was 60 pesos a tablet last time I heard. I am no stud but half a tablet worked for me.

With all these things there are always some guys it doesn't work for, or gives unpleasant side-effects. And can vary with the same guy from day to day. I have heard very few complainets about La Pela, though. On one long trip I was taking it most days for four weeks and I started to get dizzy spells so I stopped. May not even have been that. It was blazing hot that summer and I am ancient. Viagra makes me very flushed in the face but other guys have no problem with it.

It is all trial and error as to what works for you, and maybe a good idea to desist after a while, like I did, or change to something different to avoid too much build-up in your metabolism.[/QUOTE]I have plenty of Cialis and usually only take 1/2 at a time when I have a girl spend the night. However for the short time "sport fucking"sessions I like taking 1/4 of a Viagra which works fine for me. Somebody a couple of months ago posted about a place to buy the 100 mg generic Viagras for cheap which were of good quality.

I have, and it works. As for pricing, I forget what it is but easily the best value I've seen in awhile. I got a box of 96.

It keeps me busy. For awhile.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1569799]Have you bought Viagra there yourself and does it work, what about pricing. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1569849]I have, and it works. As for pricing, I forget what it is but easily the best value I've seen in awhile. I got a box of 96.

It keeps me busy. For awhile.[/QUOTE]A box of 96 Viagra would be good for about 384 single sessions for me, so yes that will keep me busy for a long time. Thanks.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1569805]Does cialis work for you? You can buy generic cialis (LaPela) at any pharmacy. It was 60 pesos a tablet last time I heard. I am no stud but half a tablet worked for me.

With all these things there are always some guys it doesn't work for, or gives unpleasant side-effects. And can vary with the same guy from day to day. I have heard very few complainets about La Pela, though. On one long trip I was taking it most days for four weeks and I started to get dizzy spells so I stopped. May not even have been that. It was blazing hot that summer and I am ancient. Viagra makes me very flushed in the face but other guys have no problem with it.

It is all trial and error as to what works for you, and maybe a good idea to desist after a while, like I did, or change to something different to avoid too much build-up in your metabolism.[/QUOTE]V gives me headaches, runny nose, backaches sometimes.

Varying intensity and frequency.

Oh yeah, and a rock hard dick all the time.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1569860]A box of 96 Viagra would be good for about 384 single sessions for me, so yes that will keep me busy for a long time. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Latinos is not a pharmacy, just a neighborhood mini market. Using it not. Works great and best price around. Flushed face is a standard side effect of v.

Can anyone advise me on the following? How busy is it in Sosua in June, does it get much less chicks than in March? (I've only been there in February, March and August / September). Is it quiet early in the week maybe? Or won't I notice the difference from when I was there in March? I know the low season has started, but don't really know the details of the ups and downs in chicas / tourists during the summer months. And from those of you in the know who live in the DR all year round, is it much hotter and more humid than when I was there in March?

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1570248]Can anyone advise me on the following? How busy is it in Sosua in June, does it get much less chicks than in March? (I've only been there in February, March and August / September). Is it quiet early in the week maybe? Or won't I notice the difference from when I was there in March? I know the low season has started, but don't really know the details of the ups and downs in chicas / tourists during the summer months. And from those of you in the know who live in the DR all year round, is it much hotter and more humid than when I was there in March?[/QUOTE]"Quiet" is a relative term in Sosua.

I've been there just about every month of the year, and from my experience nighttime on Pedro is always busy. You may find it quiet sometimes during the day, early in the week, especially at the beach, but once the sun goes down the show is on!

As to the weather if you prepare for hot and humid you'll be OK, But you're on holiday with shade and cool drinks, not running around working up a sweat. As long as your room has A /C it's fine.

The hurricane season is taken in stride down there, not hyped up like it is in the press up north. I've been down there during at least two, and though Pedro can flood, it soon drains away.

During one particularly strong hurricane I called my GF and asked how the weather was. "Normale", she said, "it's windy and wet". No big deal.

Go have fun! And tell us about it.

Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here.[/QUOTE]Typical for you perhaps. Not necessarily typical for everyone otherwise the trade would have dwindled years ago.

We all have our share of disappointments. It is not an exact science, but so many times I am with guys and I see what they have committed to and wonder what the hell they are thinking.

Glad you are generally enjoying yourself, though.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.[/QUOTE]What IS "typical" in Sosua is typical the world over with PFP pros.

They'll promise you everything, and as long as you want, for a starting price.

Then everything else is extra, They'll expect a propina, and motoconcho money.

You tell 'them how satisfied you are and they'll expect double the price. Then they'll leave. Early.

But hey, you want to fall asleep in the arms of your new dream girl. But, truth is you're on vacation. She has a bambina and momma or another relative waiting for her to take care of the baby, or bring home some food, or the rent, or to help repay the ongoing loan. If she hasn't made enough money, she may want to try her luck on the last call at Rhumba, or the Casino.

What's NOT typical.

There are some who will tell you that they have chicas that don't even ask to be paid.

I've even seen a posters on this board that claims she paid him, LOL.

Now I have a GF down there. I don't pay her every time we do it, and yes, she'll pay the bar tab if I'm short, but let there be no mistake, over all I'm paying as much (and probably more) than the average monger.

There's worse ways to spend money. So play and enjoy the game.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1570722]Typical for you perhaps. Not necessarily typical for everyone otherwise the trade would have dwindled years ago.

We all have our share of disappointments. It is not an exact science, but so many times I am with guys and I see what they have committed to and wonder what the hell they are thinking.

Glad you are generally enjoying yourself, though.[/QUOTE]I try not to be too wordy, I meant typical for me. I wish I had your ability to detect the good providers from the bad; I can't tell whether a guy will have a good or bad session from a Dominicana he has chosen. However, if this guy were in Brazil, Argentina or El Salvador, for example, chances are he is going to have a mind blowing experience. However, in trying to be fair to the chicas I am not small and I like to practice porn star sex. I don't think Dominican women like that. Also, again to be fair to the Dominican chicas they are good at 'run of the mill' sex. To be additionally fair to them I have no time for GFE, for me it is point and click. Boring but that's me. Someone may tell me then go to Brazil, Argentina or El Salvador, my retort, I like a variety of destinations and women.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1570759]What IS "typical" in Sosua is typical the world over with PFP pros.

They'll promise you everything, and as long as you want, for a starting price.

Then everything else is extra, They'll expect a propina, and motoconcho money.

You tell 'them how satisfied you are and they'll expect double the price. Then they'll leave. Early.

But hey, you want to fall asleep in the arms of your new dream girl. But, truth is you're on vacation. She has a bambina and momma or another relative waiting for her to take care of the baby, or bring home some food, or the rent, or to help repay the ongoing loan. If she hasn't made enough money, she may want to try her luck on the last call at Rhumba, or the Casino.

What's NOT typical.

There are some who will tell you that they have chicas that don't even ask to be paid.

I've even seen a posters on this board that claims she paid him, LOL.

Now I have a GF down there. I don't pay her every time we do it, and yes, she'll pay the bar tab if I'm short, but let there be no mistake, over all I'm paying as much (and probably more) than the average monger.

There's worse ways to spend money. So play and enjoy the game.[/QUOTE]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1570722]Typical for you perhaps. Not necessarily typical for everyone otherwise the trade would have dwindled years ago..[/QUOTE]Yea, and go where? Where else can he take his 2000 pesos or roughly 46 bucks, this side of asia, and spend more than 20 minutes of express lane sex? The DR is for value, not great sex. Of course there are exceptions and many know how to work it but absent that, for non-seasoned most others its average at best with a strong chance of drama.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]Then perhaps Dom Rep is a wrong destination for you unless you might feel getting even after one good performance out of three. Maybe try Brazil, there they can take it!

My experience in Dom Rep is on a Bell curve one, one in five is superb, one good, one fair, one unsatisfactory and one a disaster. Basically, in two thirds of cases I am happy. It beats the odds money wise for me and for many others. I try to stay cool, just pay and Next! Escort her back to strip and take another contestant.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570778] However, in trying to be fair to the chicas I am not small and I like to practice porn star sex. I don't think Dominican women like that. Also, again to be fair to the Dominican chicas they are good at 'run of the mill' sex. To be additionally fair to them I have no time for GFE, for me it is point and click. Boring but that's me. Someone may tell me then go to Brazil, Argentina or El Salvador, my retort, I like a variety of destinations and women.[/QUOTE]That was nice of you to have elaborated further. Thanks. I have no idea of Argentina, El Salvador or Brazil but I would imagine, if it is viagra fueled porn sex for one hour of continuous humping or more, with a sheath on, there is likely to be tear of inner vaginal wall which is not pleasant for a woman anywhere (other than the fact that it increases chances of infection), less so for a pro who is required to do it day in and day out, multiple times, if she is lucky enough, each day. For the porn stars it might be okay, they get paid a lot more I imagine and so do not need that frequency but for even a $100 fuck, it might be too much to expect, indeed anywhere, methinks.

I have had women in DR (not pros) mounting me of their own accord several times all through the night, indeed it was like porn sex to me as in those instances, it was I that wanted to sleep after draining my sack, haha.

You can describe the bad performer, some of us may recognize just with the description and sometimes it helps other mongers in keeping in mind who to be look out for. Everyone has had a bad experience in Sosua, or in Argentina, or in Thailand, or anywhere else. No one gets the 9/10 experience every time. If you're having more decent experiences and a couple above average experiences...you're doing just fine. When you are point and click, it's probably more difficult to have a "good" experience as some chicas are much better when they feel like they know the man or develop a little bit of chemistry. Even though Sosua has so many chicas, and you would think point and click would be easy...after visiting a few times in the last six months I believe it's a good monger destination if you have a little bit of patience. And it is definitely among the best in terms of value. If I am in DR for a few days, I will usually try 2-3 chicas a day (3 is pushing it but 2 is good). So over a 3 day trip you're talking about 6 different chicas (assuming I don't want to repeat). I'll usually have 1 or 2 above average experiences, 3-4 decent experiences, and then a couple "shoulda known better" experiences. And I'm OK with that. There will always be chicas who try to take advantage and get more money from you or don't deliver on something, but that's just life. The best we can do is learn from those experiences and minimize the chances of them happening again. I don't believe anyone here has any special sensing powers that immediately alert one to which chica is going to scam you... Enjoy the game, it's only fun with the right attitude.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]I hear ya.

Point and click is fun, but it's always a gamble. It is as they say, "a box of chocolates". (no pun intended).

Consistent good service may require a bit of an investment, and a bit of game. If you can let them think you might be available for a GF, they may look at you as a potential longer term investment, maybe even a Western Union boyfriend down the road, and try a little harder to please you. It usually takes more than one shot though.

If the chica is aware (and they always can tell. You are being watched, LOL) that you are a point and click guy, she'll do her best to max out the one opportunity she has with you, and if it takes a little "drama", so be it.

If you expect a honeymoon night experience from a stranger, you at least have to act like a potential groom. LOL

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service.[/QUOTE]Most guys come to the DR because it is cheap. Cheaper airfares, hotels, transport, food drink and labor costs than most destinations. For many it is all they can afford. Others who could afford more still find it the best value for money.

If you can afford to, and are willing to, pay US $100 and up for ST sex, I congratulate you, but you ought to be going somewhere else. That is a crazy price to pay in Sosua. It is like putting a Formula One engine in a Ford Lotus.

Either go somewhere where the high rollers go, or sharpen up your act. We all strike out sometimes. The girls are human, not robots, and we all have bad days. But if you are not paying around 1500 pesos, and getting value for money at least 80% of the time, then you are doing it all wrong.

If you want super porn-star experience, you will rarely find that in Sosua unless you know the area and have cultivated some contacts. To more or less be guaranteed that from a girl you don't know, you need to go to other destinations (maybe Brazil?) and pay a lot more overall.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1571005]Most guys come to the DR because it is cheap. Cheaper airfares, hotels, transport, food drink and labor costs than most destinations. For many it is all they can afford. Others who could afford more still find it the best value for money.

If you can afford to, and are willing to, pay US $100 and up for ST sex, I congratulate you, but you ought to be going somewhere else. That is a crazy price to pay in Sosua. It is like putting a Formula One engine in a Ford Lotus.

Either go somewhere where the high rollers go, or sharpen up your act. We all strike out sometimes. The girls are human, not robots, and we all have bad days. But if you are not paying around 1500 pesos, and getting value for money at least 80% of the time, then you are doing it all wrong.

If you want super porn-star experience, you will rarely find that in Sosua unless you know the area and have cultivated some contacts. To more or less be guaranteed that from a girl you don't know, you need to go to other destinations (maybe Brazil?) and pay a lot more overall.[/QUOTE]Not to mention that it ruins it for the rest of us. I will be there soon. I had some chick sitting in New Garden qoute me 6000 RP and I started laughing real hard. She must've thought I was a newbie sucker. Some will do just that wait and see if they can snatch a sucker and upsell them.

If you want one and done girls you can not expect any honey moon treatment. The girls service one and done guys all the time. From their point of view it is in their best interest to get you off and leave asap. Start looking for the next pay day which can be quite a wait. It is not easy snagging guys with all the competition in Sosua. If you find a girl that you like hit it again and you will be surprised how good things can be. I keep the numbers of girls who please me. The girls treat you like a date when they know you. Being a first time john is always a little nervous for the girl and us as well. No doubt the freaks in Brazil are consistently better in bed but if you put little time in our sport. You can get everything you want in Sosua for half the cost. Point and click action can be had everywhere and is like masturbation. Wipe your dick off and move on.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1570961]I hear ya.

Point and click is fun, but it's always a gamble. It is as they say, "a box of chocolates". (no pun intended).

Consistent good service may require a bit of an investment, and a bit of game. If you can let them think you might be available for a GF, they may look at you as a potential longer term investment, maybe even a Western Union boyfriend down the road, and try a little harder to please you. It usually takes more than one shot though.

If the chica is aware (and they always can tell. You are being watched, LOL) that you are a point and click guy, she'll do her best to max out the one opportunity she has with you, and if it takes a little "drama", so be it.

If you expect a honeymoon night experience from a stranger, you at least have to act like a potential groom. LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.[/QUOTE]Generally there is no hard and fast rule about ST sex anywhere. She opens her pussy and you do the deed. You cum and end of story. Like anywhere there are girls with economic sense. They feel they need to really satisfy the client for the money. Others do not think twice about holding the business end of the agreement. All bets are off irrespective of your negotiated and agreed deal once you cum.

However some girls stay with you if they like you. These girls become hard to get rid off.

One word of advice however is do not short change the girl. You never know who her contacts are.

Great points made by all. I point and click in every destination I go to and get great service in some and good in others, the only country where I've gotten worse service than in DR is India which is totally not a mongering destination. In one trip to Argentina I sessioned with over 20 girls and the worst was the only DR provider I went with. Anyway I hear you guys and would stop whining and enjoy the 60 per cent borderline ok service I get here. Just don't have the time or inclination for GFE, much prefer spending that time listening to good music, reading or doing work related research. I must say though that I love the country, the outdoor activities, the food and the people generally. Next destination, late June, Colombia, not as good outdoor recreational activities but better poontang.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1570868]That was nice of you to have elaborated further. Thanks. I have no idea of Argentina, El Salvador or Brazil but I would imagine, if it is viagra fueled porn sex for one hour of continuous humping or more, with a sheath on, there is likely to be tear of inner vaginal wall which is not pleasant for a woman anywhere (other than the fact that it increases chances of infection), less so for a pro who is required to do it day in and day out, multiple times, if she is lucky enough, each day. For the porn stars it might be okay, they get paid a lot more I imagine and so do not need that frequency but for even a $100 fuck, it might be too much to expect, indeed anywhere, methinks.

I have had women in DR (not pros) mounting me of their own accord several times all through the night, indeed it was like porn sex to me as in those instances, it was I that wanted to sleep after draining my sack, haha.[/QUOTE]I think even porn starts suffer from medical problems of various kinds up to and including HIV. There was a recent report of a woman who appeared in a porn movie who committed suicide not long after. [URL]http://gawker.com/college-freshman-outed-as-casting-couch-porn-actress-1580301720[/URL].

I think if you want "porn star" sex as opposed to a regular sex date, you have to negotiate that up front. What you see in porn movies online may appear to be spontaneous sex, but I am quite sure that every act performed for the camera is prediscussed and prenegotiated and paid at a suitable level for the inconvenience involved. It is part of the art of the cinematographer to make it look like you are watching something passionate and natural, but really it is more contrived than a first glance would allow.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1571029] I point and click in every destination I go to and get great service in some and good in others, the only country where I've gotten worse service than in DR is India which is totally not a mongering destination.[/QUOTE]Worse than DR? You are kidding? In the DR, with a little bit of language and kindred spirit, you can pick up women anywhere pros and semi and prostitution, if you are into it, is legal. India is a fucked up place, big time, no clear legal status and this despite the fact that prostitution is everywhere. The mongers are routinely overcharged, shortchanged and even in places where there are "casas", it is very short on material comfort not to mention of scams based on police scares. The women showing up at your hotel can be sketchy and the middlemen are mostly con jobs. People there who can afford would much rather fly to BKK or SIN. No comparison!

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]The charm of the DR is that many of the girls are just like having sex with regular girls and that many of them are not really professional. That is the charm and attraction of the DR, that plus the general cheapness of life. (A reasonable hotel room in Sosua a short walk from the beach, cafes, and bars, is cheaper than an Econolodge room for 8 hours on an Interstate Highway intersection in Florida).

Having said that, I have had fantastic sexual experiences with scores of Dominican women over the last dozen years. Yes, there have been some best forgotten, but the majority have been excellent. However it usually pays to develope a bit of a relationship if you want to see the full extent of their erotic imaginations at work. They won't necessarily pull out all the stops for "point and click". You can always point, but hot sex demands that you both click together.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1571068]The charm of the DR is that many of the girls are just like having sex with regular girls and that many of them are not really professional. That is the charm and attraction of the DR, that plus the general cheapness of life. (A reasonable hotel room in Sosua a short walk from the beach, cafes, and bars, is cheaper than an Econolodge room for 8 hours on an Interstate Highway intersection in Florida).

Having said that, I have had fantastic sexual experiences with scores of Dominican women over the last dozen years. Yes, there have been some best forgotten, but the majority have been excellent. However it usually pays to develope a bit of a relationship if you want to see the full extent of their erotic imaginations at work. They won't necessarily pull out all the stops for "point and click". You can always point, but hot sex demands that you both click together.[/QUOTE]Can extra cash replace the mutual click?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]Plenty of time my desire before the deed is much greater than what I can actually do. I am in my upper 40's and have sex daily (almost) what I can no longer do (without pills) is multiple times in short periods of time. I usually don't go with a girl for 2 hours and expect multiple pops. What I do is make an offer for short time, usually for 1500 pesos. That usually covers 2 hours and multiple pops (if I can do it). But if I want more (this totally depends on her performance the first pop), I make it an opportunity for the girl to make more money and offer a tip (usually an unspecified amount) for another round. Don't just ask her if she wants more money, ask her if she wants to stay this will imply more moeny.

I've done 3 somes and 4 somes with a group of girls (usually after a good night at the casino) and offer the girls 500 peso incentives to do my kink. Another words, hold back some money. If the initial low ball session is good, you can get more if not cut your loss and less of a problem.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1571063]I think even porn starts suffer from medical problems of various kinds up to and including HIV. There was a recent report of a woman who appeared in a porn movie who committed suicide not long after. [URL]http://gawker.com/college-freshman-outed-as-casting-couch-porn-actress-1580301720[/URL].

I think if you want "porn star" sex as opposed to a regular sex date, you have to negotiate that up front. What you see in porn movies online may appear to be spontaneous sex, but I am quite sure that every act performed for the camera is prediscussed and prenegotiated and paid at a suitable level for the inconvenience involved. It is part of the art of the cinematographer to make it look like you are watching something passionate and natural, but really it is more contrived than a first glance would allow.[/QUOTE]You can get pornstar sex in Rio and even sex from pornstars in Rio. You can't even negotiate all night sex with chicas in DR with out them leaving early.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1571068]The charm of the DR is that many of the girls are just like having sex with regular girls and that many of them are not really professional. That is the charm and attraction of the DR, that plus the general cheapness of life. (A reasonable hotel room in Sosua a short walk from the beach, cafes, and bars, is cheaper than an Econolodge room for 8 hours on an Interstate Highway intersection in Florida).

Having said that, I have had fantastic sexual experiences with scores of Dominican women over the last dozen years. Yes, there have been some best forgotten, but the majority have been excellent. However it usually pays to develope a bit of a relationship if you want to see the full extent of their erotic imaginations at work. They won't necessarily pull out all the stops for "point and click". You can always point, but hot sex demands that you both click together.[/QUOTE]I had girls in DR that asking me did I leche after 5 or 6 pumps. Stopping ever 2 or 3 minutes wanting to check condom for leche. Stuff like this happens way to often. 1 out of 7 or 8 chicas, shouldn't happen at all. Never happen in Rio or Costa Rica.

Happens to my wingmen too.

If the girls are that anxious to leave there is a strong possibility that you are very boring. I set the atmosphere a bit AND have the problem of making them leave. If you are pointing and clicking with no interaction you are going to get cold treatment. Many DR girls are not true pros as Fran pointed out. They will treat you like A PERSON as opposed to a John, They use their real names and will introduce you to their family if they like you. So if you are having the same issue with girls trying to cut you short check your mouth wash, deodorant or persoanlity.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1571199]I had girls in DR that asking me did I leche after 5 or 6 pumps. Stopping ever 2 or 3 minutes wanting to check condom for leche. Stuff like this happens way to often. 1 out of 7 or 8 chicas, shouldn't happen at all. Never happen in Rio or Costa Rica.

Happens to my wingmen too.[/QUOTE]

Sosua is fucked I think for a long time I have been denying this to myself. I was in Medellin for two weeks and now I am here in Sosua for two weeks. The Sosua girls can't hold a.

Candle to the Medellin girls. Either the Sosua girls don't know how or are unwilling to give a decent blow job its more shallow head nibbling than a decent blow job and if I hear one.

More Sosua girl say suave papi before I enter here I'm going to puke. Yes there are still a few who have been good in bed but for every decent performer in the bedroom there are two or three who are just a total waste of money. The weekend millionaires from New York have ruined the market all the girls now want 2000 p for short time and most are giving a real.

Lame session in the bedroom. I am very, very disappointed in the direction things are going in Sosua prices up services and attitudes down. I know tonight the weekend punters down.

From New York for the holiday weekend were paying 2000 and above to these girls.

In the old days you could go into the Classicos disco pick up a super hottie for 1000 to 1500 short time and she would give you great GFE service in the bedroom fuck you like you were the love of her life. Now these girls want 2000 and most of the time the service is mechanical and superficial.

Not happy at all with the way things are going in Sosua its not like it used to be in the old days.

On average I was getting better attitudes better sex and at a lower price from the girls in Boca Chica than I am from the girls in Sosua.

I came to Sosua nine times last year and this is my fourth trip this year. Unless there is an outrageously good deal on airfare I have no intentions of returning I will devote more of my.

Time and money to Colombia in the future.

Chris

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[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1571386]Sosua is fucked I think for a long time I have been denying this to myself. I was in Medellin for two weeks and now I am here in Sosua for two weeks. The Sosua girls can't hold a.

Candle to the Medellin girls. Either the Sosua girls don't know how or are unwilling to give a decent blow job its more shallow head nibbling than a decent blow job and if I hear one.

More Sosua girl say suave papi before I enter here I'm going to puke. Yes there are still a few who have been good in bed but for every decent performer in the bedroom there are two or three who are just a total waste of money. The weekend millionaires from New York have ruined the market all the girls now want 2000 p for short time and most are giving a real.

Lame session in the bedroom. I am very, very disappointed in the direction things are going in Sosua prices up services and attitudes down. I know tonight the weekend punters down.

From New York for the holiday weekend were paying 2000 and above to these girls.

In the old days you could go into the Classicos disco pick up a super hottie for 1000 to 1500 short time and she would give you great GFE service in the bedroom fuck you like you were the love of her life. Now these girls want 2000 and most of the time the service is mechanical and superficial.

Not happy at all with the way things are going in Sosua its not like it used to be in the old days.

On average I was getting better attitudes better sex and at a lower price from the girls in Boca Chica than I am from the girls in Sosua.

I came to Sosua nine times last year and this is my fourth trip this year. Unless there is an outrageously good deal on airfare I have no intentions of returning I will devote more of my.

Time and money to Colombia in the future.

Chris

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][/QUOTE]So it's not just me. I was beginning to be convinced that Dominican chicas can't take good pounding and that I was being a bit too demanding. But it's just an unwillingness to give value for money.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1571554]So it's not just me. I was beginning to be convinced that Dominican chicas can't take good pounding and that I was being a bit too demanding. But it's just an unwillingness to give value for money.[/QUOTE]Now that is extremely disappointing to hear!

Well hopefully I can find better GFE sessions but if not then maybe my next trip will be to mendellin too.

The only thing I can compare to is the brothels in SXM and Aruba.

If it's anything like that I will be disappointed indeed.

Now upgrading service with an extra 500RD really is not a big deal from our end.

But I'm not about to contribute to spoiling the hobby for others by getting chicks used to higher rates.

1 day and counting.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1571294]If the girls are that anxious to leave there is a strong possibility that you are very boring. I set the atmosphere a bit AND have the problem of making them leave. If you are pointing and clicking with no interaction you are going to get cold treatment. Many DR girls are not true pros as Fran pointed out. They will treat you like A PERSON as opposed to a John, They use their real names and will introduce you to their family if they like you. So if you are having the same issue with girls trying to cut you short check your mouth wash, deodorant or persoanlity.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with me. I treat the girlsin DR the same way Itreat them in Rio ndCosta Rica. I know of other guys having the same issue, so I knowfor a fact its not me. Some chicks in DR promise you the world, but once you get back to the room its a different story.

A ISG member pm me saying the same hurry up poppy leche shit happens to him. Its not me, when it happens to others.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1571386]Sosua is fucked I think for a long time I have been denying this to myself. I was in Medellin for two weeks and now I am here in Sosua for two weeks. The Sosua girls can't hold a.

Candle to the Medellin girls. Either the Sosua girls don't know how or are unwilling to give a decent blow job its more shallow head nibbling than a decent blow job and if I hear one.

More Sosua girl say suave papi before I enter here I'm going to puke. Yes there are still a few who have been good in bed but for every decent performer in the bedroom there are two or three who are just a total waste of money. The weekend millionaires from New York have ruined the market all the girls now want 2000 p for short time and most are giving a real.

Lame session in the bedroom. I am very, very disappointed in the direction things are going in Sosua prices up services and attitudes down. I know tonight the weekend punters down.

From New York for the holiday weekend were paying 2000 and above to these girls.

In the old days you could go into the Classicos disco pick up a super hottie for 1000 to 1500 short time and she would give you great GFE service in the bedroom fuck you like you were the love of her life. Now these girls want 2000 and most of the time the service is mechanical and superficial.

Not happy at all with the way things are going in Sosua its not like it used to be in the old days.

On average I was getting better attitudes better sex and at a lower price from the girls in Boca Chica than I am from the girls in Sosua.

I came to Sosua nine times last year and this is my fourth trip this year. Unless there is an outrageously good deal on airfare I have no intentions of returning I will devote more of my.

Time and money to Colombia in the future.

Chris

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[QUOTE=Turgid;1571554]So it's not just me. I was beginning to be convinced that Dominican chicas can't take good pounding and that I was being a bit too demanding. But it's just an unwillingness to give value for money.[/QUOTE]Its not you, but according to OldKool it can be.

Went into Rumba around 7.00 pm, ordered a drink, had a seat and took in the action. Watched the parade and spotted a nice looking muchacha. Called her over, asked her name (sounded like Yolanda), her age (veinte, she looked younger). She starts interfering with me and I feel some stiffness coming on. I ask her how much for short time she says anything you want to pay; I say DOP1500 for two hours, she says ok and we are off to the hotel.

In the hotel we strip and get down to action. I like to start with kissing so I kiss around her neck, then her cheek and her lips, she allows kissing on the lips but not DFK. While sucking on her nipples she directs my head southward, she seems clean and nice enough for DATY so I get down on her. She enjoys it immensely, lots of gyration and moaning until she cums. Then I say its my turn and direct my boy towards her mouth, she calls for the condom (shucks) which is slapped on. I then get probably the worse CBJ of my life (so much for reciprocation). Fortunately I had remained hard from DATY. She then voluntarily went into cowgirl (this looks promising) and rode me somewhat (someone should show these girls some porn), then we went into mish for a while and finally into my fav, doggie. After about ten minutes I hear the hated words 'leche pappy' which always kills the mood for me but I keep going. In my mind I am saying ok let me just leche and give her the 1500 pesos, but I can't. She then looks back at me not in a sexy way but in a way that says 'finish already'. The condom slides up into her a little, I stop to pull it up but she pulls me out.

She asks 'why you no leche'. I tell her give me time, but with that sexciting conversation I get soft. Then I tell her if you let me leche I give you 500 pesos mas. She says 1000, I say no 500. She eventually agrees and I try to get hard again. I decided not to go to CBJ cause I might get even softer so I opted for DATY (lucky her) and did eventually get hard and went straight to doggie. Pounded for about half an hour more until leche. Clean up, she's dressed, give her DOP500, she says propina and I give her another 500. Probably should not have but the second session of doggie was good, she gyrated and there was no more complaining on her part and I probably could have gone on for longer. 2500 total. I hated to overpay but without the extra I would not have leched.

Although this was not a great session it was the best I've had this trip and she was the youngest of the three. Coincidentally the session I had before this (with Clarissa) was the worst of the three and Clarissa was also the oldest of the three so perhaps it may be a case of the younger the better. I think I'll stick to the younger girls, maybe not fully spoilt yet.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1571679]Went into Rumba around 7.00 pm, ordered a drink, had a seat and took in the action. Watched the parade and spotted a nice looking muchacha. Called her over, asked her name (sounded like Yolanda), her age (veinte, she looked younger). She starts interfering with me and I feel some stiffness coming on. I ask her how much for short time she says anything you want to pay; I say DOP1500 for two hours, she says ok and we are off to the hotel.

In the hotel we strip and get down to action. I like to start with kissing so I kiss around her neck, then her cheek and her lips, she allows kissing on the lips but not DFK. While sucking on her nipples she directs my head southward, she seems clean and nice enough for DATY so I get down on her. She enjoys it immensely, lots of gyration and moaning until she cums. Then I say its my turn and direct my boy towards her mouth, she calls for the condom (shucks) which is slapped on. I then get probably the worse CBJ of my life (so much for reciprocation). Fortunately I had remained hard from DATY. She then voluntarily went into cowgirl (this looks promising) and rode me somewhat (someone should show these girls some porn), then we went into mish for a while and finally into my fav, doggie. After about ten minutes I hear the hated words 'leche pappy' which always kills the mood for me but I keep going. In my mind I am saying ok let me just leche and give her the 1500 pesos, but I can't. She then looks back at me not in a sexy way but in a way that says 'finish already'. The condom slides up into her a little, I stop to pull it up but she pulls me out.

She asks 'why you no leche'. I tell her give me time, but with that sexciting conversation I get soft. Then I tell her if you let me leche I give you 500 pesos mas. She says 1000, I say no 500. She eventually agrees and I try to get hard again. I decided not to go to CBJ cause I might get even softer so I opted for DATY (lucky her) and did eventually get hard and went straight to doggie. Pounded for about half an hour more until leche. Clean up, she's dressed, give her DOP500, she says propina and I give her another 500. Probably should not have but the second session of doggie was good, she gyrated and there was no more complaining on her part and I probably could have gone on for longer. 2500 total. I hated to overpay but without the extra I would not have leched.

Although this was not a great session it was the best I've had this trip and she was the youngest of the three. Coincidentally the session I had before this (with Clarissa) was the worst of the three and Clarissa was also the oldest of the three so perhaps it may be a case of the younger the better. I think I'll stick to the younger girls, maybe not fully spoilt yet.[/QUOTE]Another routine bad fuck from a chica. I try to stick to Hatian chicks when I goto Sosua. They are usually bettter. But it all a hit or miss. That "pappy leche" shit is the worst.

Turgid, try to avoid being angry or negotiate in a room, it's a mood killer, your body naturally switches to fight or flight mode and erection is gone. Take more time to a sort of 'foreplay' before you take her home when the roles are set, or you are going to dominate her and fuck the shit out of her like a local tiguere, or you are going to romance her, or invent some other stupid bubble scenario to make her play her role. Unless you a suave big dick alpha male (most are not) you have to compensate it with at least some easy Spanish, some humour, some dance or seduction or just extra pesos. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1571679]
She asks 'why you no leche'. I tell her give me time, but with that sexciting conversation I get soft. Then I tell her if you let me leche I give you 500 pesos mas. She says 1000, I say no 500. She eventually agrees and I try to get hard again. I decided not to go to CBJ cause I might get even softer so I opted for DATY (lucky her) and did eventually get hard and went straight to doggie. Pounded for about half an hour more until leche. Clean up, she's dressed, give her DOP500, she says propina and I give her another 500. Probably should not have but the second session of doggie was good, she gyrated and there was no more complaining on her part and I probably could have gone on for longer. 2500 total..[/QUOTE]That more or less follows my standard experience. Having been married and always in some kind of long relationship, at my age I need some emotional feedback from the chica before I can come, and it rarely happens.

Funny thing is though I get turned on by a beautiful young chica, and can stay hard for ever. I enjoy it, I'm always on the brink, but I need more time and eventually she starts, "You leche?" and it kills the mood.

I'm still hard when she is dressing to leave, and I want more, but she's usually done her best, and I can't complain. I slap her on the ass and say thanks. In fact I'm still horny, so I go down get a beer and repeat the process with a different one.

That's why I'm happy when my GF shows up. She gets the built up leche.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1571689]Another routine bad fuck from a chica. I try to stick to Hatian chicks when I goto Sosua. They are usually bettter. But it all a hit or miss. That "pappy leche" shit is the worst.[/QUOTE]I have met no Haitians here this time. That's been my biggest bummer this trip. Wish I could meet one before heading to SDQ in a couple days.

What the fuck man, were you high? You negotiated 1500 for 2 hours. You were in the room 20 minutes and offering the chick 500 more pesos to "let" you cum? That is the most ridiculous shit. She still had another hour and 40 minutes on the clock. Either she could have gotten down to business and EARNED the agreed upon amount or she could have hit the fucking door with zero. What job do you know offers a certain amount just for you to show up and work then coaxes you with extra money to get you to do the job? You agreed to 1500 yet she was able to squeeze an extra 1000 from you for a shittily done job. Why do some of you guys continue to reward bad behavior from scamming ass chicas? I'm with Old Kool on this one. It's time to look at the man in the mirror.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1571954]What the fuck man, were you high? [/QUOTE]Please stop jumping on others. I am aware that women pay you to take them to bed but the rest of the universe is different.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1571857]I have met no Haitians here this time. That's been my biggest bummer this trip. Wish I could meet one before heading to SDQ in a couple days.[/QUOTE]Which Sosua were you visiting? One in Mongolia? You cannot walk fifty yards in Sosua without seeing Haitians. A common complaint from the more racist mongers is that Sosua is overrun with them.

If you cannot find your own fuckable ones on the streets, you can meet point-and-click ones at Ruby's bar on the beach in the afternoons, and at Rancho Tipico (Ad's new place), in the evenings.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1571954]What the fuck man, were you high? You negotiated 1500 for 2 hours. You were in the room 20 minutes and offering the chick 500 more pesos to "let" you cum? That is the most ridiculous shit. She still had another hour and 40 minutes on the clock. Either she could have gotten down to business and EARNED the agreed upon amount or she could have hit the fucking door with zero. What job do you know offers a certain amount just for you to show up and work then coaxes you with extra money to get you to do the job? You agreed to 1500 yet she was able to squeeze an extra 1000 from you for a shittily done job. Why do some of you guys continue to reward bad behavior from scamming ass chicas? I'm with Old Kool on this one. It's time to look at the man in the mirror.[/QUOTE]Like I said before, it happens all the time. Its not the man. Never happen to me or my wingmen Rio. Its a DR thing. Chicas want something for pretty much nothing.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1572006]Which Sosua were you visiting? One in Mongolia? You cannot walk fifty yards in Sosua without seeing Haitians. A common complaint from the more racist mongers is that Sosua is overrun with them.

If you cannot find your own fuckable ones on the streets, you can meet point-and-click ones at Ruby's bar on the beach in the afternoons, and at Rancho Tipico (Ad's new place), in the evenings.[/QUOTE]This is true. Hatians are everywhere in Sosua. More than ever.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1572052]Like I said before, it happens all the time. Its not the man. Never happen to me or my wingmen Rio. Its a DR thing. Chicas want something for pretty much nothing.[/QUOTE]It doesn't happen to me in Sosua because they know that I mean business and I'm not going for bullshit. Why is it that they feel they can get something for nothing? Well that was a prime example; because some mongers WILL give them everything for nothing. You can't fault the girl for trying if so many mongers before you have been foolish and operated in this manner. If they can get away with it, why not try? DR is not Brazil so you can not reasonably expect business to be conducted the same way in both places.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1572052]Like I said before, it happens all the time. Its not the man. Never happen to me or my wingmen Rio. Its a DR thing. Chicas want something for pretty much nothing.[/QUOTE]You're right man. The truth is there are more lazy scam artist in Sosua. A lot of guys just don't want to admit it.

It was $25 more or blue balls. Guess which one I chose. There needs to be more Haitians in Sosua like the old days.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1572056]It doesn't happen to me in Sosua because they know that I mean business and I'm not going for bullshit. Why is it that they feel they can get something for nothing? Well that was a prime example; because some mongers WILL give them everything for nothing. You can't fault the girl for trying if so many mongers before you have been foolish and operated in this manner. If they can get away with it, why not try? DR is not Brazil so you can not reasonably expect business to be conducted the same way in both places.[/QUOTE]Its hard to believe that you never had a chick in Sosua that never try to have you hurrying up and nut, short you on time, try to up the price after you both agreed on a certain price or suave poppi you to death. If you fucked 10 different chicas one or another one of those should of happen. If not. You are in a league of your own or few.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1572063]It was $25 more or blue balls. Guess which one I chose. There needs to be more Haitians in Sosua like the old days.[/QUOTE]Memorial day weekend. Supply and demand unfortunately hopefully it calms back down, I'm supposed to arrive Wed for my first ever trip not sure what to expect now with these last couple of posts reminiscing for the 'old days'.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.[/QUOTE]I've been following your posts regarding your exploits with the Chicas and the other members comments. I'm going to sat out of the fray on that but am curious about your kite-boarding in Cabaratte. Will be in Sosua next week and would like to take some lessons, any recommendations, etc. Would be appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1572067]Its hard to believe that you never had a chick in Sosua that never try to have you hurrying up and nut, short you on time, try to up the price after you both agreed on a certain price or suave poppi you to death. If you fucked 10 different chicas one or another one of those should of happen. If not. You are in a league of your own or few.[/QUOTE]First of all I can count the times I have done short time in Sosua in 8 years on one hand. So when a chick comes with me it is for long time anyway and it looks like for less than most of y'all are paying for short time. And if she does try to pull some shit I am not going to offer more money, but tell them they are getting less. Hoes get docked for not doing what they are supposed to do; not get bonuses. If you play pussy you will get fucked everytime. Looks like in Sosua the girls are the ones wearing the balls instead of the mongers. Try standing up to them instead of being pushovers and creampuffs. This is the exact reason most of the guys on here are complaining about women back home. You have no one but yourselves to blame.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1572084]First of all I can count the times I have done short time in Sosua in 8 years on one hand. So when a chick comes with me it is for long time anyway and it looks like for less than most of y'all are paying for short time. And if she does try to pull some shit I am not going to offer more money, but tell them they are getting less. Hoes get docked for not doing what they are supposed to do; not get a bonus. If you play pussy you will get fucked everytime. Looks like in Sosua the girls are the ones wearing the balls instead of the mongers. Try standing up to them instead of being pushovers and creampuffs. This is the exact reason most of the guys on here are complaining about women back home. You have no one but yourselves to blame.[/QUOTE]I think these guys are talking about ST.

TLN is a different matter. And a GFE is even higher on the scale.

Cut 'them some slack. Mr E?

[QUOTE=Flammable;1572068]Memorial day weekend. Supply and demand unfortunately hopefully it calms back down, I'm supposed to arrive Wed for my first ever trip not sure what to expect now with these last couple of posts reminiscing for the 'old days'.[/QUOTE]Don't be put off by the last few posts. Come to Sosua with an open mind. One man's experience is not necessarily the same as another's. You may have the time of your life. Please post your experience.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1572075]I've been following your posts regarding your exploits with the Chicas and the other members comments. I'm going to sat out of the fray on that but am curious about your kite-boarding in Cabaratte. Will be in Sosua next week and would like to take some lessons, any recommendations, etc. Would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Surfer500, having learned kiteboarding and kitesurfing in Miami I did not need to take lessons but just rented equipment and so will not go out on a limb to recommend any particular school here. My advice is to do a google search. I met guys who did not even search online, they just found themselves in Cabarete, and took lessons. No problemo.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1572067]Its hard to believe that you never had a chick in Sosua that never try to have you hurrying up and nut, short you on time, try to up the price after you both agreed on a certain price or suave poppi you to death. If you fucked 10 different chicas one or another one of those should of happen. If not. You are in a league of your own or few.[/QUOTE]People who have some game or speak the language or both, have a much wider option range, especially, going outside the town of Sosua. These same folks when they go to Sosua, use that knowledge to wean out the bad ones. Something that someone who knows Sosua only and is half drunk 3/4 of the time, has no clue about. There are others who over a period of time have established relationship with women there and each time can add to that list or get intros through the connections. Because of that the choices made by such people are always way superior and they do not complain. In addition, people will tell you that the nights are good to get numbers and call them the afternoon after. That way, you get them fresh, are not paying the high price of "whole night" and by taking them at a time when things are slow for the women, allows you to pay less and get a better treatment.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1571386]Sosua is fucked I think for a long time I have been denying this to myself. I was in Medellin for two weeks and now I am here in Sosua for two weeks. The Sosua girls can't hold a Candle to the Medellin girls.

The weekend millionaires from New York have ruined the market all the girls now want 2000 p for short time and most are giving a real Lame session in the bedroom. I am very, very disappointed in the direction things are going in Sosua prices up services and attitudes down. Time and money to Colombia in the future.

Chris

[/QUOTE]Where do you think these people find the blueprint for their travel? I wouldn't big up MDE too much on the internet, unless you want to see them there as well, LOL.

I was in Sosua several weeks ago and had a great time. At the same time, I've seen the changes as well. Every mongering destination has its pluses and minuses. When I go to Sosua, I know what to expect and enjoy it for what it is. Good luck!!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572190]Where do you think these people find the blueprint for their travel? I wouldn't big up MDE too much on the internet, unless you want to see them there as well, LOL.

I was in Sosua several weeks ago and had a great time. At the same time, I've seen the changes as well. Every mongering destination has its pluses and minuses. When I go to Sosua, I know what to expect and enjoy it for what it is. Good luck!![/QUOTE]A lot depends on you. 1000 pesos or more will get the girl to drop her pants, but the rest is up to you. I have always been impressed by how much chicas will go out of their way to please me, even when I am not really expecting it. A little chemistry can go a long, long way. But don't be like the group of five guys I saw walking around yesterday in their gym kit and making perceptive comments like "pump that ass". Sosua is a small town and if you don't carry yourself with dignity and treat people with courtesy, adverse perceptions about you will soon travel ahead of you.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572190]Where do you think these people find the blueprint for their travel? I wouldn't big up MDE too much on the internet, unless you want to see them there as well, LOL.[/QUOTE]We'll never see Medellin run over by the and. Why. Crowd that goes to Sosua for many reasons. Sosua is a cheaper, quicker flight. Sosua is overall a much cheaper trip. The and. Why. Crew generally don't speak a lick of spanish making navigating Medellin much more difficult than Sosua. Sosua is point and click, Medellin not so much, especially with zero spanish. But most importantly and make no mistake about this point, if the and. Why crew came to Medellin and tried to walk around shooting their big mouths off and acting the way they do in Sosua in any great numbers the "powers that be" in Medellin would put a stop to it quite quickly, somebody would get hurt for certain. Even though prostitution is just as rampant in Colombia as the DR, it's not in your face like Sosua for a reason and anybody that thinks it ever will be doesn't know shit about Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1572351]We'll never see Medellin run over by the and. Why. Crowd that goes to Sosua for many reasons. Sosua is a cheaper, quicker flight. Sosua is overall a much cheaper trip. The and. Why. Crew generally don't speak a lick of spanish making navigating Medellin much more difficult than Sosua. Sosua is point and click, Medellin not so much, especially with zero spanish. But most importantly and make no mistake about this point, if the and. Why crew came to Medellin and tried to walk around shooting their big mouths off and acting the way they do in Sosua in any great numbers the "powers that be" in Medellin would put a stop to it quite quickly, somebody would get hurt for certain. Even though prostitution is just as rampant in Colombia as the DR, it's not in your face like Sosua for a reason and anybody that thinks it ever will be doesn't know shit about Colombia.[/QUOTE]Having been to Medellin five times in the past I concur completely with what you are saying. The majority of the guys that come to Sosua would be like fish trying to survive out of water in Medellin.

Hi guys,

My first time to DR. Planning to go to Sosua in about a month and stay there for about 10 days. Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?

I have read the forum but could not find much information about daytime places (similar to those in Medellin, CO; San Jose, CR; Bangkok&Pattaya, Thailand etc).

I really appreciate your help! Which places I have to go to find girls in the daytime, particularly in the early afternoon?

Thanks,

Roger

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1572363]The majority of the guys that come to Sosua would be like fish trying to survive out of water in Medellin.[/QUOTE]The past week in Meddy, I only saw two Sosua type crews. On a Saturday night, saw a crew about seven deep walking towards Parque Lleras from Avenida El Poblado. While visiting a casa, I saw a crew of about five guys who left shortly after I arrived. In a span of 8 days that isn't bad. I agree with what you guys say plus Meddy is much bigger and spread out, especially outside of El Centro. That being said, its a good feeling to actually hear musica latina and not Rick Ross and everything that come along with that. Safe travels!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1572149]People who have some game or speak the language or both, have a much wider option range, especially, going outside the town of Sosua. These same folks when they go to Sosua, use that knowledge to wean out the bad ones. Something that someone who knows Sosua only and is half drunk 3/4 of the time, has no clue about. There are others who over a period of time have established relationship with women there and each time can add to that list or get intros through the connections. Because of that the choices made by such people are always way superior and they do not complain. In addition, people will tell you that the nights are good to get numbers and call them the afternoon after. That way, you get them fresh, are not paying the high price of "whole night" and by taking them at a time when things are slow for the women, allows you to pay less and get a better treatment.[/QUOTE]This sums it up well.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572394]The past week in Meddy, I only saw two Sosua type crews. On a Saturday night, saw a crew about seven deep walking towards Parque Lleras from Avenida El Poblado. While visiting a casa, I saw a crew of about five guys who left shortly after I arrived. In a span of 8 days that isn't bad. I agree with what you guys say plus Meddy is much bigger and spread out, especially outside of El Centro. That being said, its a good feeling to actually hear musica latina and not Rick Ross and everything that come along with that. Safe travels![/QUOTE]A "Sosua type crew" in El Centro, Medellin hanging around Avenida De La Grief and the Botero Plaza area would attract a lot of attention versus the Poblado and Parque Lleras areas. I could easily see a Sousa crew having problems in the El Centro area of Medellin after dark.

[QUOTE=Roger;1572381]
Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?

I have read the forum but could not find much information about daytime places (similar to those in Medellin, CO; San Jose, CR; Bangkok & Pattaya, Thailand etc).

[/QUOTE]That is because there aren't any. Sosua is quiet until 8.00 pm. You get a few strays in the town but they are mostly either desperate skanks or "civilians" (girls going about their normal business who might not be averse to being picked up and providing sex for money). In the latter case you will need reasonable Spanish (or French for Haitians) otherwise you could put yourself in an embarrassing situation with them, or with their boyfriends / husbands or employers.

Best place is the beach. There are always some P4 P girls there. Even if you don't pull it is a pleasant place to spend the afternoon. And Ad's Rancho Tipico has girls hanging around (mostly Haitians) in the early evening before other places liven up.

But see Tempoecorto's excellent post a little below. He recommends taking phone numbers at night and contacting the girls in the daytime. This has a lot to recommend it. You can assess the girls better in the daylight, in more peaceful surroundings and hopefully not through beer goggles. And they should be less demanding monetarily as any work they get in the daytime would be an unexpected bonus. No way should you pay more than 1000 to 1500 for ST in the daytime.

However, if you are only available for mongering in the daytime (like one current poster) you might want to think twice about spending your holiday in Sosua unless you have additional reasons for going there (meeting friends, etc).

[QUOTE=Roger;1572381]Hi guys,

My first time to DR. Planning to go to Sosua in about a month and stay there for about 10 days. Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?

[/QUOTE]As was suggested, the main beach in Sosua is a good daytime venue. If you stay at Casa Cayena or New Garden, there may be a few skanks available during the daytime. There are also a few massage parlors on the same block of Casa Cayena like Belkis, for instance, where you can get a massage with a happy ending, or perhaps more. Depending on when you go, there are some places that have daytime pool parties so ask around. Also, if you can get a ride to and from Blackbeards in Costambar, there are girls available during the day and bikini contests on the weekends.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572518]Also, if you can get a ride to and from Blackbeards in Costambar, there are girls available during the day and bikini contests on the weekends.[/QUOTE]And Field of Dreams, too, which is a lot nearer and you won't need a ride from a friend. If the claims that Blackbeards is usually fully booked are true (and I personally don't believe them) then Field of Dreams would have the advantage that short-time rooms would probably be available, as they don't fill up like Blackbeards.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572518]If you stay at Casa Cayena or New Garden, there may be a few skanks available during the daytime.[/QUOTE]I was recently told Wilfried no longer permits working girls to hang at Casa Cayena. He is associating with the great and powerful these days and might have been given a strong hint.

But things change weekly for no logical reason in Sosua, so my info might be out of date already.

And I thought I read here that the same applies to New Garden? Although in eight years here I have never seen a chica there I would fuck even if they paid me.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572518]As was suggested, the main beach in Sosua is a good daytime venue. If you stay at Casa Cayena or New Garden, there may be a few skanks available during the daytime. There are also a few massage parlors on the same block of Casa Cayena like Belkis, for instance, where you can get a massage with a happy ending, or perhaps more. Depending on when you go, there are some places that have daytime pool parties so ask around. Also, if you can get a ride to and from Blackbeards in Costambar, there are girls available during the day and bikini contests on the weekends.[/QUOTE]Any reports on cost and the quality at these massage parlors? If not, can you recommend a few I'll swing by and give a couple of reports when I head down later this week I have a weakness for these.

You can catch a local publico to Caberreti. It is a very close and is a lovely beach with a very different flavor from Sosua. Cost of the publico is a dollar each way. 10 days is a very long time to spend in Sosua. I love the place but after 3 days I'm done. You also might consider catching the bus to Santo Domingo for a few days. It is a nice size city and a different vibe. Speaking some Spanish provides many more options. I have a couple local girls that I can hang out with when I get tired of sport fucking. No matter what you will have an awesome time.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1572518]As was suggested, the main beach in Sosua is a good daytime venue. If you stay at Casa Cayena or New Garden, there may be a few skanks available during the daytime. There are also a few massage parlors on the same block of Casa Cayena like Belkis, for instance, where you can get a massage with a happy ending, or perhaps more. Depending on when you go, there are some places that have daytime pool parties so ask around. Also, if you can get a ride to and from Blackbeards in Costambar, there are girls available during the day and bikini contests on the weekends.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1572526]I was recently told Wilfried no longer permits working girls to hang at Casa Cayena. He is associating with the great and powerful these days and might have been given a strong hint.

But things change weekly for no logical reason in Sosua, so my info might be out of date already.

And I thought I read here that the same applies to New Garden? Although in eight years here I have never seen a chica there I would fuck even if they paid me.[/QUOTE]The last two times I stayed at Casa Cayena, I never liked the skanks that hung out at Casa Cayena, they where kind of like fly's on shit. Sometimes they would ask if they could take a shower in your room or buy them a drink. They preyed on the "lazy" mongers staying at the hotel. The worst part of them hanging around was that a few times when one of my DC dating site girls would come over, it would be awkward for me when I would check them in and the skanks would be hanging out on the couches in reception or on the front steps of the hotel giving me a funny look. My DC girls didn't like it either seeing all these skanks hanging around.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1568489]Enjoyed your comments and note your sense of humor as in interest in big breasted women...LOL.

I would think lack of opportunities entice women anywhere in the world do what you are speaking of the German FKKs are full of the East Europeans / Russians but as long as there is no exploitation or abuse, I do not see why the laws of demand and supply are bad as most moralists tend to make it. Having said that, and given that you are Belgian, it should be fairly easy for you to handle Spanish and move on from the pros to something more challenging. The beauty of the DR is that (I am told there are other places in South America as well).[/QUOTE]Tempocorto, I wasn't making a moral point or speaking on behalf of others, I'm just talking about how I feel when I'm there, that I think about the women there, their lives etc, I don't just want to shag them all left right and centre constantly. It can pay too, to be nice to them, you may get better treatment! For the record, I'm not Belgian, I just live there, and yes, my Spanish is already good. Talking about moving onto something more challenging than Sosua, when I was in Santo Domingo in March for a week, I called one chick from Badoo that I just had to meet, she was very cute and had such a great body. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I took her out twice for drinks and one meal, paid for her taxi's to and back from Santo Domingo Este, and had my way with her on the second date. May see her again when I come back.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1571005]Most guys come to the DR because it is cheap. Cheaper airfares, hotels, transport, food drink and labor costs than most destinations. For many it is all they can afford. Others who could afford more still find it the best value for money.[/QUOTE]One thing I don't find that cheap in the DR is hotels and accommodation. It's a third world country and hotels cost more than in Spain for example. There's a shortage of nice apartments to rent (at a reasonable price anyway), and to get a quality hotel or apartment you have to pay good money. On the Costa del Sol in Spain I have rented gorgeous places (Diamond resorts) for 35 Euro a night, try getting that in Sosua, Santiago or Santo Domingo. The only reasonably priced hotel in downtown Santiago is Hotel del Sol, and it's room are small and basic, still costs over $ 60 a night. Club Residential in Sosua are looking for around $ 1000 per month for one of their Condo's off season.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1570450]"Quiet" is a relative term in Sosua.

I've been there just about every month of the year, and from my experience nighttime on Pedro is always busy. You may find it quiet sometimes during the day, early in the week, especially at the beach, but once the sun goes down the show is on!

As to the weather if you prepare for hot and humid you'll be OK, But you're on holiday with shade and cool drinks, not running around working up a sweat. As long as your room has A /C it's fine.

The hurricane season is taken in stride down there, not hyped up like it is in the press up north. I've been down there during at least two, and though Pedro can flood, it soon drains away.

During one particularly strong hurricane I called my GF and asked how the weather was. "Normale", she said, "it's windy and wet". No big deal.

Go have fun! And tell us about it.[/QUOTE]I was asking this because I was there once when the place was pretty dead, even in the evening, in August / September 2011, and that was pretty depressing! Early in the week was the worst. Probably being at the height of the recession was the cause of this. I wrote a big report about my last trip there in March a few pages back by the way.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1572551]The last two times I stayed at Casa Cayena, I never liked the skanks that hung out at Casa Cayena, they where kind of like fly's on shit. Sometimes they would ask if they could take a shower in your room or buy them a drink. They preyed on the "lazy" mongers staying at the hotel. The worst part of them hanging around was that a few times when one of my DC dating site girls would come over, it would be awkward for me when I would check them in and the skanks would be hanging out on the couches in reception or on the front steps of the hotel giving me a funny look. My DC girls didn't like it either seeing all these skanks hanging around.[/QUOTE]Awkward?? Just stay somewhere else. The skanks as you referred to are 1000 times better than what I see on backpages here in L.A. Wanting $100 an hour for their company. Just saying...

RR.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1572558]Tempocorto, I wasn't making a moral point or speaking on behalf of others, I'm just talking about how I feel when I'm there, that I think about the women there, their lives etc, I don't just want to shag them all left right and centre constantly. It can pay too, to be nice to them, you may get better treatment! For the record, I'm not Belgian, I just live there, and yes, my Spanish is already good. Talking about moving onto something more challenging than Sosua, when I was in Santo Domingo in March for a week, I called one chick from Badoo that I just had to meet, she was very cute and had such a great body. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I took her out twice for drinks and one meal, paid for her taxi's to and back from Santo Domingo Este, and had my way with her on the second date. May see her again when I come back.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I did not mean that "you" were making a "morality" point, my bad. I just wanted to say that life would be simpler if we were not to get trapped into that usual and useless morass speaking of "pro" women. Regarding being nice and getting dividends for that, well, I completely agree. Empathy is a great human virtue!

Ah ok, I thought for a Belgian, you spoke excellent English...LOL; Your story just proves the point that one can go pick fruits all over that island.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1572563]One thing I don't find that cheap in the DR is hotels and accommodation. It's a third world country and hotels cost more than in Spain for example. There's a shortage of nice apartments to rent (at a reasonable price anyway), and to get a quality hotel or apartment you have to pay good money. On the Costa del Sol in Spain I have rented gorgeous places (Diamond resorts) for 35 Euro a night, try getting that in Sosua, Santiago or Santo Domingo. The only reasonably priced hotel in downtown Santiago is Hotel del Sol, and it's room are small and basic, still costs over $ 60 a night. Club Residential in Sosua are looking for around $ 1000 per month for one of their Condo's off season.[/QUOTE]Agree completely, especially in Santiago. The choices suck big time there. The other expensive thing is the car rental, what with gas price and their bleeding tax.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1572587]Awkward?? Just stay somewhere else. The skanks as you referred to are 1000 times better than what I see on backpages here in L.A. Wanting $100 an hour for their company. Just saying...

RR.[/QUOTE]For the price and location it's hard to beat Casa Cayena. The skanks may be superior compared to what you can get in LA, but were talking Sosua here and if you venture out, speak some Spanish, and have a little game you can do far better than going with one of the skanks that hang out there.

When I stayed there two years ago there were some qualtiy puta's hanging out, nice afternoon delight. With the changes in policy, no puta's and the hardcore PM street action, Sosua goes off my radar. Prefer Curacao with nice Columbians, also safer for mongers.

You can stay stay at rockys for 30 a night. In edit place s are there for 40 just depends on your taste and standards.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1572597]Agree completely, especially in Santiago. The choices suck big time there. The other expensive thing is the car rental, what with gas price and their bleeding tax.[/QUOTE]

Cost of living in Santiago is much less than in Sos. Overall in Sos. And area one can pay from 200 peso per night to $2,000 per night, it's all up to you. Hookers pay daily 500 to 700 pesos, monthly rates are around 6,000 pesos. Long term rates for visitors are $3,000 - $6,000 per annum and up, again it's all up to you. The lowest I have been paying $15 per day and the highest $65 per day on short term. The are some bargains further away from the strip, in Charamicos and area. Whole houses can be rented very affordable on long term basis.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1572514]That is because there aren't any. Sosua is quiet until 8.00 pm. You get a few strays in the town but they are mostly either desperate skanks or "civilians" (girls going about their normal business who might not be averse to being picked up and providing sex for money). In the latter case you will need reasonable Spanish (or French for Haitians) otherwise you could put yourself in an embarrassing situation with them, or with their boyfriends / husbands or employers.

Best place is the beach. There are always some P4 P girls there. Even if you don't pull it is a pleasant place to spend the afternoon...[/QUOTE]Thank you Charles Pooter, OldKool, Orgasmico and others for your very helpful suggestions. It appears that there are not many choices for me during the daytime in Sosua. I already have my flight tickets to Puerto Plata.

Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?

Thanks,

Roger

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1572149]There are others who over a period of time have established relationship with women there and each time can add to that list or get intros through the connections. .[/QUOTE]I can't emphasize this enough. On a couple of occasions I have taken a buddy down there, and my GF has arranged to bring in girlfiends from out of town to meet him. The requirement are always the same, young (legal), fresh and beautiful. I got jealous. I kept the phone number of one from San Pedro and it turned out amazing!

So now its bye bye Sosua. I had a great time especially with the seaside activities. I will miss seeing all those hoards of "guys with game" who have been swarming all over Sosua the whole time I've been there. Now its onto the casas of SDO. Will report under SDO.

[QUOTE=Flammable;1572068]Memorial day weekend. Supply and demand unfortunately hopefully it calms back down, I'm supposed to arrive Wed for my first ever trip not sure what to expect now with these last couple of posts reminiscing for the 'old days'.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about anything just go with an open mind and some money and this will be some of the best times of your life. I read the same post before my first trip to the DR. I am glad I did not listen to the negative comments about how it was not like the old days. It is all new days now and it so far has been great for me and should be for you to.

[QUOTE=Roger;1572381]Hi guys,

My first time to DR. Planning to go to Sosua in about a month and stay there for about 10 days. Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?

I have read the forum but could not find much information about daytime places (similar to those in Medellin, CO; San Jose, CR; Bangkok&Pattaya, Thailand etc).

I really appreciate your help! Which places I have to go to find girls in the daytime, particularly in the early afternoon?

Thanks,

Roger[/QUOTE]You can do what I did years ago. I paid one of the motorbike guys to bring them to my place during the daytime. I told him Exactly what I was looking for look wise and I told him to bring them to me. It worked like a charm. The people that really live (locals) know where all the girls live too. Dude was just literally going to their houses and picking them up. The only problem with this is he began to bring too many girls. I mean it seemed like the guy was pulling up with bus loads. Lmao! I can't remember what I paid him but it wasn't much. I'd say a few hundred pesos the most. Also, I've never done this in Sosua only in Boca Chica, but I'm quite sure this would work very well in Sosua as well.

[QUOTE=Roger;1572770]Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?[/QUOTE]You have to realize the freaks come out at night. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLYC7ltxOrk&feature=kp[/URL].

[QUOTE=Roger;1572770] It appears that there are not many choices for me during the daytime in Sosua. I already have my flight tickets to Puerto Plata.Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?[/QUOTE]Jesus, you have already given up on Sosua where women are everywhere?

1) If you are not comfortable looking for women, first off, go stay at Field of Dreams in Puerto Plata or to Blackbeard (a little further) where all you have to do, is to choose from the gaggle of females on premises 24/7 and wave at the chosen one / s.

2) Once you have exhausted your leche sac after a few days of never ending romps, you can move to Sosua, already in a better frame of mind and follow what the other posts have suggested looking for females: go to the beach, Sit at Rocky's restaurant to chat with other fellow hobbyists in your language and get pointers or wave at willing females passing by, go to the massage parlors, and finally go to the dance clubs / bars at night where women will accost (well almost) you.

3) Remember most women sleep until late like many hobbyists after a night of drunken revelry so if you are having breakfast / lunch at say midday, on one of the many nice restaurants under the canopy, on the side walk of the main street and you see woman / women walking by that catches your fancy, you can always smile and / or wave. If the stars are aligned right, she will turn right back and come to sit with you.

Santo Domingo on your maiden trip may not be advisable. It is far, big city with its issues and outside of casas, is more complicated in terms of finds without the local language unless you are an adventurous kind.

[QUOTE=Roger;1572381]Hi guys,

My first time to DR. Planning to go to Sosua in about a month and stay there for about 10 days. Would you please help me with your suggestions for daytime action in Sosua?

I have read the forum but could not find much information about daytime places (similar to those in Medellin, CO; San Jose, CR; Bangkok&Pattaya, Thailand etc).

I really appreciate your help! Which places I have to go to find girls in the daytime, particularly in the early afternoon?

Thanks,

Roger[/QUOTE]Since you mentioned that this is your first time in Sosua, you may be surprised to find more than a few chicas around during the day. It's only "quiet" relative to the action that goes on at night.

I, and guys I know never had a real problem finding girls during the day. Sit down, have lunch or a beer and they will find you, almost guaranteed.

[QUOTE=Roger;1572770]Thank you Charles Pooter, OldKool, Orgasmico and others for your very helpful suggestions. It appears that there are not many choices for me during the daytime in Sosua. I already have my flight tickets to Puerto Plata.

Do you have any suggestions about other locations? Santo Domingo or other places in DR where the chances are better?

Thanks,

Roger[/QUOTE]I don't think I've ever faced an issue finding action during the daytime. But I don't start to have fun until 1 or 2 in the afternoon, nothing extremely early like 10 or 11 AM. For something that early you might want to try some of the MP's. Otherwise if you're patient until the afternoon, you could sit at one of the bars and you should not have much of an issue. Or just walk down Pedro Clisante (don't go too far though) and you will run into a chica. I've been to Sosua during non-peak season and although the quality and quantity of girls increases drastically as you get into the evening hours (8 PM) the daytime is not impossible. It's just not as many chicas walking around or sitting at the bars, that's all. I've been to Santo Domingo and there are the casas during the day / night, but personally I find Sosua to be better at any time of the day. SD vs Sosua though are two different places, and two different ways to get things done. If you speak decent spanish, you have a great opportunity to get with some incredibly good looking non-pros in SD.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1572617]For the price and location it's hard to beat Casa Cayena. The skanks may be superior compared to what you can get in LA, but were talking Sosua here and if you venture out, speak some Spanish, and have a little game you can do far better than going with one of the skanks that hang out there.[/QUOTE]I just got a week at Casa Cayena and Wilfried included breakfast and dinner. I stayed there the last two times after being a NG regular and the place cannot be beat!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1572979]Since you mentioned that this is your first time in Sosua, you may be surprised to find more than a few chicas around during the day. It's only "quiet" relative to the action that goes on at night.[/QUOTE]It kind of reads like Roger is looking for a brothel-like set up such as La Passion was, and not women of the free lance variety.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1573067]It kind of reads like Roger is looking for a brothel-like set up such as La Passion was, and not women of the free lance variety.[/QUOTE]Understood, Mr. E.

But I just wanted to remind him of the reason why Sosua is a top mongering destination despite having no brothels.

Who needs a McDonalds fish burger, when for about the same price he can get a fresh caught snapper cooked to his taste on the beach.

Well, no time for a full report, that will soon be coming.

Just wanted to add, since Roger seems to be in the same sort of time constraints as me.

Daytime Sosua is rather slim. Just from early afternoon to early evening the selection changes / increases quite a bit. Can't imagine how it is during peak hours.

So far I've had my great session, and my ok session, met some regular chicas (at least so far they're sticking with that story)..still waiting for my off the chain session. Oh yes, and alas, I had my rip off session.

Sad to say, but it's true. With over 20 years and all the research here, I still let my guard down, made a couple of really dumb moves and got ripped off.

Let me just say, from now on, girls leaving ID is a must for me!

Also, Dolce Secreto does not take the chicas ID and will take their side at least they did in my situation. Well, more like they didn't want to get involved.

Well, in the end it was 50 USD so I still consider it a relatively cheap lesson.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1573264]Well, no time for a full report, that will soon be coming.

Just wanted to add, since Roger seems to be in the same sort of time constraints as me.

Daytime Sosua is rather slim. Just from early afternoon to early evening the selection changes / increases quite a bit. Can't imagine how it is during peak hours.

So far I've had my great session, and my ok session, met some regular chicas (at least so far they're sticking with that story)..still waiting for my off the chain session. Oh yes, and alas, I had my rip off session.

Sad to say, but it's true. With over 20 years and all the research here, I still let my guard down, made a couple of really dumb moves and got ripped off.

Let me just say, from now on, girls leaving ID is a must for me!

Also, Dolce Secreto does not take the chicas ID and will take their side at least they did in my situation. Well, more like they didn't want to get involved.

Well, in the end it was 50 USD so I still consider it a relatively cheap lesson.[/QUOTE]Daytime on weekdays picking is slim to none. You can find some desperate ones. Daytime on weekends are good. If you are looking for real pretty ones they can be found Friday and Saturday nights after 11 PM. When I went earlier this month one real pretty girl latched on to me pushing her big boobs in my face trying to get me to take her. She wanted 4000 pesos ST. That is a no go for me. I offered 2500 for LT which she did not accept.

Also very pretty girls in the casino which is on the way to the beach. By then I had a good GFE with me for LT. Cost 2500.

Interesting, tourists getting robbed again in Sosua: [URL]http://www.sabanetadeyasica.com/2014/05/vuelven-atracos-esta-calle-de-sosua.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1573519]Interesting, tourists getting robbed again in Sosua: [URL]http://www.sabanetadeyasica.com/2014/05/vuelven-atracos-esta-calle-de-sosua.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Arrived today in Sosua and had never been here during the slow season. The strip was fenced off from the Playero Market all the way down to Rumbas starting in the late afternoon. At 11 PM there were a few people in the street in front of Rumbas and the rest of the street was pretty much deserted. What a difference from when I was here back in November and February. I can see tourists getting ripped off on a deserted street.

First night here and there was a decent showing here at rumba's. Didn't stay late and go on to the'Latins afterwards so not sure if more people showed up. It seems like the new rates now are about 2000 p for short time from everyone I've been talking to and the chicas.

[QUOTE=Flammable;1573823]First night here and there was a decent showing here at rumba's. Didn't stay late and go on to the'Latins afterwards so not sure if more people showed up. It seems like the new rates now are about 2000 p for short time from everyone I've been talking to and the chicas.[/QUOTE]It's bee said here before, but if you take their number and arrange to meet them during the day, you can get them for 1,000/1,500 when they are not so busy.

You could stretch your budget quite a lot this way, and often get better time.

When Classicals was the main place it was very difficult to settle on one girl. My first time there I was with a 8 who latched on to me in the street. She was a solid 8 with a great personality. Once we stepped in, there were so many 9's and 10's I could not even look at my sweet 8 anymore. I was surrounded by scores of very sexy gorgeous girls. The D Latins is just fine but Classicos was an awesome spot. The low level babes would not show their faces in the place. I also enjoyed the open dance floor. If you have DANCE SKILLS you could break the ice before you pulled the trigger. If a chica has no time to dance she is a you cum she run girl. If you can get a good vibe with a girl you want her not to be in a hurry. I love it when they want to look at TV and cuddle a bit. To your point after noon hookups are usually much cheaper but they tend to screw up your evenings. Maybe I am getting old but once I bust the afternoon nut a nice nap is in order and my evening drive is not as high. My suggestion is to find chica that you like a bit and who responds to you. She will happy to hang WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A good deal on the booty.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1574185]It's bee said here before, but if you take their number and arrange to meet them during the day, you can get them for 1,000/1,500 when they are not so busy.

You could stretch your budget quite a lot this way, and often get better time.[/QUOTE]

Well I'm back home.

Wow is all I can say.

I don't even know where to begin. I wanted to day by day reports, not sure though if anyone really cares to hear that much detail.

In the end 8 different girls, and 9 sessions (only one girl did I repeat), over 4 days.

Monday. Wednesday during the days in Sosua was very slim picking, I would say I didn't even say anyything above a 7.

However Thursday and especially Friday picked up during the day.

Only made it out once to Sosua at night (midnight I think Wednesday) and WOW what a difference!

How do people focus? Theres so many to choose from?

On a side not though, the girls in Puerto Plata were absolutely stunning!

I got a lot of looks from the girls in PP.

At first in Sosua I got no love from the girls!

Then I was told I look too dominican, so I dressed a little more touristy.

I def have to go back, planning the return trip as we speak. This time alone!

[QUOTE=Haunted; 1575046]Well I'm back home.

Wow is all I can say.

I don't even know where to begin. I wanted to day by day reports, not sure though if anyone really cares to hear that much detail.

In the end 8 different girls, and 9 sessions (only one girl did I repeat), over 4 days.

Monday. Wednesday during the days in Sosua was very slim picking, I would say I didn't even say anyything above a 7.

However Thursday and especially Friday picked up during the day.

Only made it out once to Sosua at night (midnight I think Wednesday) and WOW what a difference!

How do people focus? Theres so many to choose from?

On a side not though, the girls in Puerto Plata were absolutely stunning!

I got a lot of looks from the girls in PP.

At first in Sosua I got no love from the girls!

Then I was told I look too dominican, so I dressed a little more touristy.

I def have to go back, planning the return trip as we speak. This time alone![/QUOTE]Your report is much appreciated. I'll be in Sosua for my first overnight visit on Thursday afternoon for a weekend of fun and I was worried that Thurs. Daytime and Friday daytime would be a chica ghost-town.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1575126]Your report is much appreciated. I'll be in Sosua for my first overnight visit on Thursday afternoon for a weekend of fun and I was worried that Thurs. Daytime and Friday daytime would be a chica ghost-town. [/QUOTE]Guys who go to the DR for the first time always have a fantastic experience. This board tends to be dominated by a number of old lags who have burned out long ago, so take some of the negative stuff you read with a pinch of salt.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575046]At first in Sosua I got no love from the girls! Then I was told I look too dominican, so I dressed a little more touristy. [/QUOTE]Wow. This is the first time I have heard that. Usually people on traveling sites give advice telling people that they need to dress more like locals instead of like the tourists that they are.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational; 1575393]Wow. This is the first time I have heard that. Usually people on traveling sites give advice telling people that they need to dress more like locals instead of like the tourists that they are.[/QUOTE]In tourist traps like Sosua, girls aren't looking for Dominicans. They are looking for a guy in flip-flops, shorts and a tank top. In big cities like Santo Domingo, and Santiago girls gravitate toward the locals and the way they dress. Those big cities don't have tourist traps so blending in is recommended.

[QUOTE=Lou32; 1575126]Your report is much appreciated. I'll be in Sosua for my first overnight visit on Thursday afternoon for a weekend of fun and I was worried that Thurs. Daytime and Friday daytime would be a chica ghost-town.[/QUOTE]Thursday and Friday were very well stocked in the daytime.

Feel free to post or PM if you have any questions, glad to help if I can. I had a ton of questions before going.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational; 1575393]Wow. This is the first time I have heard that. Usually people on traveling sites give advice telling people that they need to dress more like locals instead of like the tourists that they are.[/QUOTE]Yes it was odd. But my friends were experiencing some similar reactions in Sosua.

But yes, I had a few chicas tell me you look Dominican.

On the resorts it was my wife who was always getting asked for I'd as she looks Haitian.

In fact, every time I was with my wife talking to locals (trying), they would always ask her why she doesn't speak spanish LOL.

Sosua. Day 2.

Well let met start by sharing my somewhat comical bad experience in Sosua.

I started my day as usual, around 11 am in Sosua. Went to a few different bars to do some work, in search of good wifi (no luck), and good people watching locations.

This took me up to around 3:30 pm.

Now it was time to take care of other work.

Did the usual walk up and down a few times. Nothing special, then got in my jeep and drove around a bit, again nothing special. I did see a few who appealed to my taste, but they either failed the interview because I could tell they were too hardcore pro, or we couldn't agree on services.

Finally, on a last stroll, I saw. Can't even remember her name. Let's call her Anna.

So, Anna grossly didn't seem to be too hardcore, and she agreed to my services.

OK, all is good. We get in my rental, and start driving to a cabana that she knows. Mistake #1. Using her choice of cabana.

In the jeep we seem to comfortable with each other, using google translate to converse, and she seems pleasant enough.

I asked for some kissing while driving, to make sure she would do that. Check.

Also asked for some BBJ while driving. Check.

So we get to Dolce Secreto. Which I know is a popular spot.

First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.

My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2.

Now Anna seems to know the people working there very well. Manuel I think was the guys name. Warning #3.

Well, we eventually get the room. 600RD.

Before doing anything I again ask for some DFK to get over my subconscious telling me this isn't good, and she complies.

So, now I'm like ok lets get down to it!

I ask her, are you not going to shower? She said no she doesn't need to. Hmmm. Warning #4.

So I quickly washup, and get on the bed and start kissing. Ok her kissing has decreased in passion.

Oh yes, and she ordered a bag of chips. So after 10 secs of kissing, she stops to crunch on some chips.

So now, I say ok, undress lets see your body. Busted!

This chica has saggy titties, propped up with her bra, and mad stretch marks on her belly. SHIT.

OK let me just pop my nut and get it over with.

Pulled out my magic toy (no, a battery operated one LOL), and start using it on her pussy. She is in heat now, getting wet.

OK, time for some BBJ, I roll over on my back, she strokes it a few times and asks for the condom. WTF!

We start arguing about what the hell is going on (as best as I can with google translate).

So I do have a bad habit of over reacting.

So, I just say fuck it.

I get up and get dressed. She is speaking to me in spanish. No idea what she is saying. No money has exchanged hands yet.

Now this is funny. So, I go to a door to leave the room, and it's locked.

I'm like WTF again. I unlatch whatever I could see from the inside. No go. Door is locked from outside.

This reminded me of the brothels in SXM. You would walk through a maze of prison cells, locked before and after you get to the chicas room.

So I thought great, I'm locked in from the outside, and this chica is the only way out.

So now I say OK, get me the fuck out. Here is your money (I think it was 2000RD).

She takes the money and says ok lets go. And proceeds to leave using a different door!

I was trying to open up the wrong fucking door! What an idiot!

So now I'm even more angry at my own stupidity and the situation.

I leave my rental in the garage and walk to the front gates hoping to explain and rectify the situation with Manuel.

My offering was this. You got your 600 for the 10 minutes for the room, fine. I will give this ***** 1000RD for her fuckin time, but I want 1000RD back.

This seemed entirely fair to me, in fact probably unfair to me, but I just wanted to get the fuck out of there.

So now this 'discussion' went on for about half an hour. He would not take my side, and of course she wasn't going to give me back any money.

I didn't know what to do.

I tried to threaten I would call the cops.

That seemed to spark some reaction, and the discussion between manuel and anna went on again.

In the end, nothing. He would not enforce anything and she would not refund anything.

At this point he showed me the number for the police, so I knew my bluff was over now.

I left there pissed to fuckin hell. Until I did the math.

So even though I was ripped off 2600RD (61 USD). I was really arguing about 1000RD (23 USD).

Hey, I've been ripped off more than that, and when I realized I was just arguing over 20 dollars. My mind rested somewhat.

And as far as my obligatory bad experience in Sosua, I can accept 60 dollars.

Well, that's my ridiculous bad experience.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575427]. Mistake #1. Using her choice of cabana.

Its the only one in Sosua.


First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.

My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2.

Why?

Now Anna seems to know the people working there very well. Manuel I think was the guys name. Warning #3.

Shes a hooker, its the only cabana in Sosua and youre surprised she knows the guy who works there?

I ask her, are you not going to shower? She said no she doesn't need to. Hmmm. Warning #4.

Maybe she had just bathed in her house.

So now this 'discussion' went on for about half an hour. He would not take my side, and of course she wasn't going to give me back any money.

I didn't know what to do. [/QUOTE]Why did you think the guy had anything to do with her money? I think you were lucky you cut your losses and didn't push it. Things could have gone south quickly, especially since you don't speak any Spanish.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575427]

So we get to Dolce Secreto. Which I know is a popular spot.

First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.

My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2. [/QUOTE]For your first time to Sosua you did okay considering you don't speak spanish, a few things to point out.

Dolce Secreto is the ONLY cabaña in Sosua so it was the girls only choice.

Most cabañas have gates and quite a few have the tire shredder things.

Don't expect the cabaña management to help in disputes, it just doesn't work that way, you are on your own.

You did the right thing by giving her the money and cutting your losses. Some guys on here will disagree but it was your first time in Sosua and you don't speak the language so you were at a disadvantage. Once you got undressed and in bed with her you were committed to paying her, very few guys would have gotten out of there without giving her any money and the cops will side with the girl every single time, the last thing you want to do is call the cops unless there is violence resulting in injury or major theft and you better be able to prove it.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575427]Sosua. Day 2.
So, Anna grossly didn't seem to be too hardcore, and she agreed to my services.

OK, all is good. We get in my rental, and start driving to a cabana that she knows. Mistake #1. Using her choice of cabana.

In the jeep we seem to comfortable with each other, using google translate to converse, and she seems pleasant enough.

I asked for some kissing while driving, to make sure she would do that. Check.

Also asked for some BBJ while driving. Check.

So we get to Dolce Secreto. Which I know is a popular spot.

First thing I see is the gates, and those things in the ground that shred your tires if you drive over them.

My instincts said no, this is not good. Warning #2.

Now Anna seems to know the people working there very well. Manuel I think was the guys name. Warning #3.

Well, we eventually get the room. 600RD.

Before doing anything I again ask for some DFK to get over my subconscious telling me this isn't good, and she complies.

So, now I'm like ok lets get down to it!

I ask her, are you not going to shower? She said no she doesn't need to. Hmmm. Warning #4.

So I quickly washup, and get on the bed and start kissing. Ok her kissing has decreased in passion.

Oh yes, and she ordered a bag of chips. So after 10 secs of kissing, she stops to crunch on some chips.

So now, I say ok, undress lets see your body. Busted!

This chica has saggy titties, propped up with her bra, and mad stretch marks on her belly. SHIT.

OK let me just pop my nut and get it over with.

Pulled out my magic toy (no, a battery operated one LOL), and start using it on her pussy. She is in heat now, getting wet.

OK, time for some BBJ, I roll over on my back, she strokes it a few times and asks for the condom. WTF!

We start arguing about what the hell is going on (as best as I can with google translate).

So I do have a bad habit of over reacting.

So, I just say fuck it.

I get up and get dressed. She is speaking to me in spanish. No idea what she is saying. No money has exchanged hands yet.

Now this is funny. So, I go to a door to leave the room, and it's locked.

I'm like WTF again. I unlatch whatever I could see from the inside. No go. Door is locked from outside.

This reminded me of the brothels in SXM. You would walk through a maze of prison cells, locked before and after you get to the chicas room.

So I thought great, I'm locked in from the outside, and this chica is the only way out.

So now I say OK, get me the fuck out. Here is your money (I think it was 2000RD).

She takes the money and says ok lets go. And proceeds to leave using a different door!

I was trying to open up the wrong fucking door! What an idiot!

So now I'm even more angry at my own stupidity and the situation.

I leave my rental in the garage and walk to the front gates hoping to explain and rectify the situation with Manuel.

My offering was this. You got your 600 for the 10 minutes for the room, fine. I will give this ***** 1000RD for her fuckin time, but I want 1000RD back.

This seemed entirely fair to me, in fact probably unfair to me, but I just wanted to get the fuck out of there.

So now this 'discussion' went on for about half an hour. He would not take my side, and of course she wasn't going to give me back any money.

I didn't know what to do.

I tried to threaten I would call the cops.

That seemed to spark some reaction, and the discussion between manuel and anna went on again.

In the end, nothing. He would not enforce anything and she would not refund anything.

At this point he showed me the number for the police, so I knew my bluff was over now.

I left there pissed to fuckin hell. Until I did the math.

So even though I was ripped off 2600RD (61 USD). I was really arguing about 1000RD (23 USD).

Hey, I've been ripped off more than that, and when I realized I was just arguing over 20 dollars. My mind rested somewhat.

And as far as my obligatory bad experience in Sosua, I can accept 60 dollars.

Well, that's my ridiculous bad experience. [/QUOTE]This would make a great comedy movie. Probably you were in Cabana #1 and the bathroom door lock was tricky-the door you tried to exit through-it was like that the last time I was there.

I am not sure that she failed to comply with the deal. Perhaps you thought you had agreed on a blow job without a condom. Is that it? But you had got her "in heat" using the vibrator. She wanted to fuck. She wanted to fuck with a condom. Understandable, I think. But apparently you do not want to fuck this hot horny woman who is gagging for some dick. Oka-aay!

As far as the tits and the stretch marks, did you not do any due diligence before you engaged her services, like asking her if she had children, checking out her body, Mongering 101 stuff? As far as the potato chips, you could have waited for her to finish, offered her a drink, etc. Probably she was hungry.

I think I would have sided with her too, if you originally agreed on 2000 pesos. If you only agreed on 1000 pesos, then I don't see why you gave her 2000. Because you could not open the bathroom door?

Anyway you have gained some valuable experience in mongering and probably won't make the same mistakes again.

Incidentally, I highly recommend Dolce Secreto and have never had any problems there, except that I find the porn on the TV excessively gross.

[QUOTE=David_33; 1575445]Why did you think the guy had anything to do with her money? I think you were lucky you cut your losses and didn't push it. Things could have gone south quickly, especially since you don't speak any Spanish.[/QUOTE]I was just hoping he could have been a somewhat neutral third party and understood my rationale of still paying her, just not the full amount.

Yes, when my mind cleared slightly I realized this was a rather minimal damage type of lesson.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1575505]This would make a great comedy movie. Probably you were in Cabana #1 and the bathroom door lock was tricky-the door you tried to exit through-it was like that the last time I was there.

I am not sure that she failed to comply with the deal. Perhaps you thought you had agreed on a blow job without a condom. Is that it? But you had got her "in heat" using the vibrator. She wanted to fuck. She wanted to fuck with a condom. Understandable, I think. But apparently you do not want to fuck this hot horny woman who is gagging for some dick. Oka-aay!

As far as the tits and the stretch marks, did you not do any due diligence before you engaged her services, like asking her if she had children, checking out her body, Mongering 101 stuff? As far as the potato chips, you could have waited for her to finish, offered her a drink, etc. Probably she was hungry.

I think I would have sided with her too, if you originally agreed on 2000 pesos. If you only agreed on 1000 pesos, then I don't see why you gave her 2000. Because you could not open the bathroom door?

Anyway you have gained some valuable experience in mongering and probably won't make the same mistakes again.

Incidentally, I highly recommend Dolce Secreto and have never had any problems there, except that I find the porn on the TV excessively gross.[/QUOTE]I agree this was somewhat a funny situation in hind sight, which is the reason I posted it as my first Sosua report.

No the cabana was further on into the establishment, don't think it was #1.

The door wasn't the bathroom door, it was the door where you exchange money / food etc. So understandably, it's locked from the outside as well.

Definitely agreed to BBJ. My spanish is minimal, but I clearly know how to say and understand some things. Every other chica clearly understood as well.

In fact with "Anna", it was written out with google translate (chupa sin condon).

Asking about babies is in my top 5 list of usual questions, and I asked her as well. She denied any children. Part of the reason I chose her is because she looked younger, and as such was hoping for someone nulparous.

After this incident, I mostly chose women who were exposing their stomachs, and if not I asked to see their stomachs and titties in the car.

Also of note, 4 other chicas I had actually did have babies with NO stretch marks / tittie damage etc. I have seen this a few times in NYC, but perhaps only around 5% prevalence. Is this more common here in the DR? Something in the water? LOL.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1575403]They are looking for a guy in flip-flops, shorts and a tank top. [/QUOTE]And the smart phone with Google translate, LOL.

I think the girls will take a guy dressed nice with a ride just the same. The key is, no matter how you dress, these chicas see a constant enough flow of gringos to read certain signals and scenarios quickly. For you, it's a vacation. For them, it's a lifestyle!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1575464]
Dolce Secreto is the ONLY cabaa in Sosua so it was the girls only choice.

[/QUOTE]If Dolce Secreto is full and you have a car, there is also a cabana on the far side of Sabaneta on the main Highway 5 that is a bit closer than Puerto Plata. There is a also a place called the hotel Europa on the Highway 5 in Los Cangrejos, which is closer, but I have never been there. It doesn't have drive in parking, just a short stay hotel.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575427]OK, time for some BBJ, I roll over on my back, she strokes it a few times and asks for the condom. WTF! We start arguing about what the hell is going on (as best as I can with google translate). So I do have a bad habit of over reacting. So, I just say fuck it. I get up and get dressed. [/QUOTE]So you call the session off because the girl wants to use a condom? Then you grossly overpay the chick 2000 pesos, beg the motel worker who has nothing to do with the situation to get 1000 of it back for you, AND threatened to call the cops? If they would have come YOU are the one who would have had the problem. You really do have a bad habit of overreacting. Sounds like you need to stick to mongering in a controlled environment. Freelancers ain't for you buddy. Hookers don't give refunds![QUOTE=Haunted;1575427]Now this is funny. So, I go to a door to leave the room, and it's locked. I'm like WTF again. I unlatch whatever I could see from the inside. No go. Door is locked from outside. She takes the money and says ok lets go. And proceeds to leave using a different door![/QUOTE]P.S. You tried to leave through the door that is next to the revolving window where you put the money to pay for the motel and snacks. That is only for motel staff access. That is the door they use when they come clean the rooms. The one adjacent to that leads downstairs to the garage. And the door next to that is the bathroom.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational; 1575629]So you call the session off because the girl wants to use a condom?[/QUOTE]We had agreed before hand that BBJ was on the menu. She performed BBJ in the car on the way to the cabana. Once in the cabana, she flipped the script and said CBJ.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational; 1575629]P.S. You tried to leave through the door that is next to the revolving window where you put the money to pay for the motel and snacks. That is only for motel staff access. That is the door they use when they come clean the rooms. The one adjacent to that leads downstairs to the garage. And the door next to that is the bathroom.[/QUOTE]Yes, I stated I realized I was trying to exit through the wrong door. I posted this report with the intent of providing some amusement.

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575510]and as such was hoping for someone nulparous.[/QUOTE]Funny! I don't think I have ever gone beyond using viviparous. On that note, finding a nulliparous female in a land where females get accessed at 13 or less makes it very hard, well nigh impossible, I would imagine. Indeed one might argue that such early fecundity keeps the flow of females towards Sosua and similar locations alive.

Do not let others jumping on you cramp your style. Most mean well and no one had it perfected the first few trips.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1575629]So you call the session off because the girl wants to use a condom? Then you grossly overpay the chick 2000 pesos, beg the motel worker who has nothing to do with the situation to get 1000 of it back for you, AND threatened to call the cops? If they would have come YOU are the one who would have had the problem. You really do have a bad habit of overreacting. Sounds like you need to stick to mongering in a controlled environment. Freelancers ain't for you buddy. Hookers don't give refunds!P. S. You tried to leave through the door that is next to the revolving window where you put the money to pay for the motel and snacks. That is only for motel staff access. That is the door they use when they come clean the rooms. The one adjacent to that leads downstairs to the garage. And the door next to that is the bathroom. [/QUOTE]You need to lighten up on this guy. He had the balls to post what happened knowing full well it was a messy affair and doesn't deserve to be berated by you. He's been reaching out for advice. Chill out Mr. E.

E is just being straight up. My man did everything in the book wrong. Envolving the Cabana people daa, who does that. The girls was willing to work and he changes his mine and wants her to take a pay cut. I thought he was pulling our leg. He was lucky she was a nice girl or things could have got real ugly.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1575885]You need to lighten up on this guy. He had the balls to post what happened knowing full well it was a messy affair and doesn't deserve to be berated by you. He's been reaching out for advice. Chill out Mr. E. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1575892]E is just being straight up. My man did everything in the book wrong. Envolving the Cabana people daa, who does that. The girls was willing to work and he changes his mine and wants her to take a pay cut. I thought he was pulling our leg. He was lucky she was a nice girl or things could have got real ugly. [/QUOTE]I have a problem with Mr. E's berating, not the facts!

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575772]We had agreed before hand that BBJ was on the menu. [b]She performed BBJ in the car[/b] on the way to the cabana. Once in the cabana, she flipped the script and said CBJ. [/QUOTE]So you admit that she did do the BBBJ? Did you specify at all during the negotiations how much time would have to be spent on the evolution? LOL. Just bustin your balls man. It makes the forum a lot more interesting with reports other than drinking, picking up girl, girl sucks peter, girl gets fucked, gave girl money, girl leaves.

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1575892]E is just being straight up. My man did everything in the book wrong. Envolving the Cabana people daa, who does that. The girls was willing to work and he changes his mine and wants her to take a pay cut. I thought he was pulling our leg. He was lucky she was a nice girl or things could have got real ugly.[/QUOTE]She was not willing to do what we had agreed upon.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational; 1575943]So you admit that she did do the BBBJ? Did you specify at all during the negotiations how much time would have to be spent on the evolution? LOL. Just bustin your balls man. It makes the forum a lot more interesting with reports other than drinking, picking up girl, girl sucks peter, girl gets fucked, gave girl money, girl leaves.[/QUOTE]LOL well that's the reason really I posted the report. For amusement. I'm well aware of what I did and didn't do wrong.

I'm glad you can laugh about it, I was really hoping only for that. For people to laugh about the screw ups!

I think it's time to post the rest of the good reviews, LOL which basically are as you paraphrased. Drink, pick up, fuck, pay, next.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1575943]So you admit that she did do the BBBJ? Did you specify at all during the negotiations how much time would have to be spent on the evolution? LOL. Just bustin your balls man. It makes the forum a lot more interesting with reports other than drinking, picking up girl, girl sucks peter, girl gets fucked, gave girl money, girl leaves. [/QUOTE]I'll prepare myself for an upcoming ball busting from you!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1575235]Guys who go to the DR for the first time always have a fantastic experience. This board tends to be dominated by a number of old lags who have burned out long ago, so take some of the negative stuff you read with a pinch of salt.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice Frannie!

Yes I've noticed odd feedback / information.

Starting to figure out maybe there's a bit of burnout or what not involved.

No matter. I'm well grounded an this is all for fun anyways.

If you noticed you notice my posting history I almost exclusively just report facts / experiences and don't get involved in tangential discussions.

Always a pleasure to help people out though, that's what I love about this and other boards.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1572551]The last two times I stayed at Casa Cayena, I never liked the skanks that hung out at Casa Cayena, they where kind of like fly's on shit. Sometimes they would ask if they could take a shower in your room or buy them a drink. They preyed on the "lazy" mongers staying at the hotel. The worst part of them hanging around was that a few times when one of my DC dating site girls would come over, it would be awkward for me when I would check them in and the skanks would be hanging out on the couches in reception or on the front steps of the hotel giving me a funny look. My DC girls didn't like it either seeing all these skanks hanging around. [/QUOTE]I was at the Casa at the same time as you were. I have returned a week ago today. During my seven night's stay, there were at least three different times that the girls visiting were doable. I am not sure what gives you the high moral ground to call these girls skanks, or what your definition of a skank is. Perhaps you saw my skank-19 year old, skinny, tattoos and piercings (more on her later). Show some class and don't be so liberal with the skank word. Its offensive and aggressive. Mongering, just like soccer is a beautiful sport.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1571386]
have no intentions of returning I will devote more of my.
Time and money to Colombia in the future.
Chris [/QUOTE]Recently, I had my second trip to Dominican Republic , in less than a year, and it was fantastic. PSE, Haitians, Novia. You will be missed Chris. Your contributions to the DR thread, for me at least have been invaluable. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1576054]I was at the Casa at the same time as you were. I have returned a week ago today. During my seven night's stay, there were at least three different times that the girls visiting were doable. I am not sure what gives you the high moral ground to call these girls skanks, or what your definition of a skank is. Perhaps you saw my skank-19 year old, skinny, tattoos and piercings (more on her later). Show some class and don't be so liberal with the skank word. Its offensive and aggressive. Mongering, just like soccer is a beautiful sport. [/QUOTE]What I'm curious about is how a girl from DC comes to visit your in Sosua, and is offended by working girls sitting around in a hotel lobby. That just doesn't even make sense. It's SOSUA. I don't expect any person in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but surely women in DR know why there are so many single travelers there.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576063]What I'm curious about is how a girl from DC comes to visit your in Sosua, and is offended by working girls sitting around in a hotel lobby. That just doesn't even make sense. It's SOSUA. I don't expect any person in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but surely women in DR know why there are so many single travelers there. [/QUOTE]Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576077]Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it. [/QUOTE]If there was a place like Sosua anywhere in my home country I sure as hell would know it existed and what went on there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576077]Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it. [/QUOTE]I agree with you on this, I have a DC girl with me at Casa Cayena right now and she is clueless as to what goes on here. However one of my other DC girls knows exactly what goes on here.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576077]Why are you so sure? Is it because you know what goes on there so you assume everyone else does as well? Before you had ever been there did you know what went on there or even that the place existed? There are many people who go certain places several times and have no idea what is right under their nose until they are introduced into certain circles. You have made it inside the circle. Don't be surprised that those who have never been in or near the circle don't know what goes on inside of it. [/QUOTE]Did you read the part where I said that I don't expect everyone in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but using logical reasoning you would expect one to at least have an idea if they live in DR? It's called logical reasoning. Do people living in the United States know what Vegas is all about? 99% of the population may not know everything that goes on there, but those who have heard about it and live in the United States will surely have some sort of an idea. Sosua is not a big city, it's main areas are concentrated on a couple key parts of the town. And those certain parts are well known for something. Sure, there was a point in time where I did not know about Sosua. But I am not a local. I researched it on my own.

But as an American, did I know the general idea about what goes on in cities like Vegas? Yes. And that's years before I ever visited. And Vegas is not a small city. While it's possible that a local does know everything that goes on in Sosua, it's logical to assume that a vast majority of the local population that has heard of the city of Sosua, has a general idea of what it it is known for. I have interacted with women on DC before, and when I tell them that I have visited Sosua before. They know what goes on there. I cannot think of one single time where a woman I've talked to who is a local living in Santo Domingo, Santiago, Puerto Plata, Caberete, Punta Cana, etc. Or anywhere else. Has no idea what Sosua is about. So once again. It's certainly possible that not everyone living in DR knows what goes on there. But it's a logical assumption that a vast majority has a general idea.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576063]What I'm curious about is how a girl from DC comes to visit your in Sosua, and is offended by working girls sitting around in a hotel lobby. That just doesn't even make sense. It's SOSUA. I don't expect any person in the world to know what goes on in Sosua, but surely women in DR know why there are so many single travelers there. [/QUOTE]Semi-pros or or most of the girls I have met on the DC dating site consider them selves a cut above the girls that work in the streets, Additionally there are girls on the DC dating site that are truly oblivious as to what goes on in Sosua, (see Mr. E's rebuttal) .

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576096]Semi-pros or or most of the girls I have met on the DC dating site consider them selves a cut above the girls that work in the streets, Additionally there are girls on the DC dating site that are truly oblivious as to what goes on in Sosua, (see Mr. E's rebuttal) . [/QUOTE]I read the rebuttal. Did you read mine?

Where are these girls coming from? You are telling me you got women (be it a pro or a non-pro) to come out to some town named Sosua, for the first time. Or they visited previously but chose to conveniently avoid the main part of town. However it may be, but they trusted to come out and meet you and they have no idea what goes on in Sosua?

Or do you think it's plausible that these women you met do certainly think they're a cut above the rest, and are simply pretending to not know and be disgusted by the things they see? While I don't necessarily doubt your story, I am quite surprised. Quite surprised.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576100]I read the rebuttal. Did you read mine?

Where are these girls coming from? You are telling me you got women (be it a pro or a non-pro) to come out to some town named Sosua, for the first time. Or they visited previously but chose to conveniently avoid the main part of town. However it may be, but they trusted to come out and meet you and they have no idea what goes on in Sosua?

Or do you think it's plausible that these women you met do certainly think they're a cut above the rest, and are simply pretending to not know and be disgusted by the things they see? While I don't necessarily doubt your story, I am quite surprised. Quite surprised.[/QUOTE]Most of the DC girls I know come from the Puerto Plata area, and yes most of them have not been in Rumbas or Bar Latino and have seen firsthand what goes on here. If you had some DC dating site experience you wouldn't be so surprised.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576101]Most of the DC girls I know come from the Puerto Plata area, and yes most of them have not been in Rumbas or Bar Latino and have seen firsthand what goes on here. If you had some DC dating site experience you wouldn't be so surprised.[/QUOTE]Did you read what I said? I have interacted with many women from DC, I have been on there since August of 2013. I have met quite a few, they are from all parts of the country including Puerto Plata. Many women ask if I've been to the DR before, I let them know yes plenty of times and I tell them where I've been. And that includes Sosua. And I have yet to meet a single woman who is from DR that does not know what Sosua is known for. Many say they go to Sosua for the beach, and it has a nice beach (compared to USA Beaches) that sees plenty of visitors from Europe, USA, Asia, and locals from DR. But people know what Sosua is known for, many also don't want to talk about it because they don't want their country to be known for that or a town to be judged for just that. Which is perfectly understandable. But once again. Sosua is not the size of Vegas, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Pattaya, Rio, Medellin etc. It's significantly smaller and locals know what their country is all about.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576109] But people know what Sosua is known for, many also don't want to talk about it because they don't want their country to be known for that or a town to be judged for just that. Which is perfectly understandable. But once again. Sosua is not the size of Vegas, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Pattaya, Rio, Medellin etc. It's significantly smaller and locals know what their country is all about.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Puntz79. Any DR woman who tries to tell you she doesn't know what goes on in Sosua, is hoping you are stupid enough to believe her coy act. Just because a female has never been to Sosua or has never been a hoe, doesn't mean she doesn't know what is going on in her own country. Come on guys, nobody is that dumb!

[QUOTE=Haunted;1575427]Sosua. Day 2.
I left there pissed to fuckin hell. Until I did the math.

So even though I was ripped off 2600RD (61 USD). I was really arguing about 1000RD (23 USD).

Hey, I've been ripped off more than that, and when I realized I was just arguing over 20 dollars. My mind rested somewhat.

And as far as my obligatory bad experience in Sosua, I can accept 60 dollars.

Well, that's my ridiculous bad experience.[/QUOTE]Ah the "Golden Rule" of mongering.

When you're in their surroundings or unfamiliar territory, and something goes wrong, immediately realize that you have made a bad judgement, or have been gamed.

Smile, cut your losses, pay the price, get out of there, and charge it up to experience. For the sake of a few bucks, you can avoid escalating the problem to who knows where, and you won't make enemies, who might try to get even with you.

The last time a chica tried to game me, I was in my friendly hotel surrounded by friendly staff, so I extended the drama a little bit, and she left without getting all she demanded. But that's a different situation entirely.

But thanks for a great post.

IMO there are all types of women in the DR on Dating sites, or social sites like Tagged or Badoo. Enough are non pros who work, or go to school, many others don't work. Some really want a serious relationship, enough dont. Either way, having never visited Sosua or not knowing how things work in Sosua, does not necessarily mean a woman is completely ignorant to the basics in terms of what Sosua is known for. I would not trust a womans claim or act of ignorance of not knowing anything about the basics of what Sosua is known for. But I would trust that she may have never been to Sosua. She gets no points just because she may have never been to Sosua. The point is, if she comes there to meet a foreigner, its clear enough that she is aware of what is going to go down. Sex and compensation on some level.

Also many of the women on dating sites may think they are a cut above the women in Sosua, however many arent much different. It's just that their technique and strategy for connecting with men and how they get compensated is different. Most dating site women are still agreeing to come to a mans hotel to have sex and eventually resulting in getting paid for their time. If things go well, they can establish a regular thing whenever he comes back. If she's fortunate to turn it into a WU hookup it's better for her.

I don't see the significance of determining whether the woman knows how things work in Sosua or she doesn't? The point is, she came to fuck a man (a foreigner and not a local) that she barely knows. A woman being offended by women hanging around at the mans hotel, is nothing more than competitive female jealously, and / or her putting on a performance of embarrassment in front of the man she came to see. I'm sure the goal of being compensated by her new cash cow trumps any concerns many of those women may have about their self image in relation to those women in Sosua. But the performance is necessary. When it is time to leave and go home, she may have to put on an even bigger academy award performance of feigning surprise when the man offers her money for her time, "err I mean for her children" "err I mean to pay her rent". And hoping she garners the right response in the man of feeling like he scored a good one because she refused or hesitated in taking his offering. However, soon to come is her being quite comfortable down the road of straight up asking for money, help, favors,gifts etc. But it usually starts off with feigned hesitation. And "Im different, Im not like those women in the street".

Meanwhile, these same women on dating websites are likely to continue talking to and meeting other men, and repeating the same scenario. Some women may indeed be content with working on one man and quit the dating site for a while, while a majority of other women enjoy juggling several men they connected with. You can best believe, the best acting in the world is going on with many women on dating sites, and the men playing down and trying not to draw too much attention to themselves of what they want from their hookups.

A woman doesn't have to know about Sosua or have visited Sosua. Prostitution is in the hearts and minds of women by nature. Being compensated for their sex comes natural to enough women. It doesnt matter where they practice at. Even men want to believe they are cut above other men when they connect with non pros vs straight up p4p chicas. But in the end, the man is the one conveniently and happily paying the majority of any expenses when dealing with or towards women in the DR. Its still p4p just looked at in a more dignified manner. Were all egoists in this game.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576269]IMO there are all types of women in the DR on Dating sites, or social sites like Tagged or Badoo. Enough are non pros who work, or go to school, many others don't work. Some really want a serious relationship, enough dont. Either way, having never visited Sosua or not knowing how things work in Sosua, does not necessarily mean a woman is completely ignorant to the basics in terms of what Sosua is known for. I would not trust a womans claim or act of ignorance of not knowing anything about the basics of what Sosua is known for. But I would trust that she may have never been to Sosua. She gets no points just because she may have never been to Sosua. The point is, if she comes there to meet a foreigner, its clear enough that she is aware of what is going to go down. Sex and compensation on some level.

Also many of the women on dating sites may think they are a cut above the women in Sosua, however many arent much different. It's just that their technique and strategy for connecting with men and how they get compensated is different. Most dating site women are still agreeing to come to a mans hotel to have sex and eventually resulting in getting paid for their time. If things go well, they can establish a regular thing whenever he comes back. If she's fortunate to turn it into a WU hookup it's better for her.

I don't see the significance of determining whether the woman knows how things work in Sosua or she doesn't? The point is, she came to fuck a man (a foreigner and not a local) that she barely knows. A woman being offended by women hanging around at the mans hotel, is nothing more than competitive female jealously, and / or her putting on a performance of embarrassment in front of the man she came to see. I'm sure the goal of being compensated by her new cash cow trumps any concerns many of those women may have about their self image in relation to those women in Sosua. But the performance is necessary. When it is time to leave and go home, she may have to put on an even bigger academy award performance of feigning surprise when the man offers her money for her time, "err I mean for her children" "err I mean to pay her rent". And hoping she garners the right response in the man of feeling like he scored a good one because she refused or hesitated in taking his offering. However, soon to come is her being quite comfortable down the road of straight up asking for money, help, favors,gifts etc. But it usually starts off with feigned hesitation. And "Im different, Im not like those women in the street".

Meanwhile, these same women on dating websites are likely to continue talking to and meeting other men, and repeating the same scenario. Some women may indeed be content with working on one man and quit the dating site for a while, while a majority of other women enjoy juggling several men they connected with. You can best believe, the best acting in the world is going on with many women on dating sites, and the men playing down and trying not to draw too much attention to themselves of what they want from their hookups.

A woman doesn't have to know about Sosua or have visited Sosua. Prostitution is in the hearts and minds of women by nature. Being compensated for their sex comes natural to enough women. It doesnt matter where they practice at. Even men want to believe they are cut above other men when they connect with non pros vs straight up p4p chicas. But in the end, the man is the one conveniently and happily paying the majority of any expenses when dealing with or towards women in the DR. Its still p4p just looked at in a more dignified manner. Were all egoists in this game.[/QUOTE]You nailed it with this post as I have been unable to articulate my thoughts on all this.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1575505]

Anyway you have gained some valuable experience in mongering and probably won't make the same mistakes again.

Incidentally, I highly recommend Dolce Secreto and have never had any problems there, except that I find the porn on the TV excessively gross.[/QUOTE]I have wanted to put the tv on porn before when I was there to show a chica some moves but could never find it. What channel is porn on at the Dulce.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1576320]I have wanted to put the tv on porn before when I was there to show a chica some moves but could never find it. What channel is porn on at the Dulce.[/QUOTE]You will find what you want on channels 201,202, and 203.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1576263]Ah the "Golden Rule" of mongering.

When you're in their surroundings or unfamiliar territory, and something goes wrong, immediately realize that you have made a bad judgement, or have been gamed.

Smile, cut your losses, pay the price, get out of there, and charge it up to experience. For the sake of a few bucks, you can avoid escalating the problem to who knows where, and you won't make enemies, who might try to get even with you.

The last time a chica tried to game me, I was in my friendly hotel surrounded by friendly staff, so I extended the drama a little bit, and she left without getting all she demanded. But that's a different situation entirely.

But thanks for a great post.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great reply Oakie.

You nailed the experience on the head.

Yesterday hit the waves at Playa Encuentro (Hideway Beach) and the waves where overhead but at 7 AM in the morning it was like being at Huntington Beach with multiple riders taking off on the better waves. Today was in Sosua Bay in the afternoon and there were overhead waves breaking and nobody was out there! I stayed out about an hour and caught some great waves with some nice faces and drops. Waves by day, snapper by night, all at your door step, I love this place!

Two different chicas. One a regular, the other a DC chica. I haven't met her yet. I'm talking to both on Whatsapp today. Both just informed me that they are at the clinic. They both are complaining of having la gripe. I asked the regular to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a picture of her in the bed, a big ass bed. She has the sheet covering her up to her breasts, but she is wearing a regular blouse. And I can see the shadow of her wearing jeans under the sheets. I told her it doesn't look like she is in a clinic, and the size of the bed seems too big for a clinic. She suddenly dropped off communication. I asked for another photo of her room in the clinic. All I hear are crickets. Oh yeah she sent me 2 whatsapp audio messages of her coughing. This shit is funny as hell.

The DCupid chica may be preparing to ask me if I could send her money to help with her clinic bill. To be continued. Many of these women love telling us about their problems. Even if they dont know you well or have a relationship with you.

I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576307]You nailed it with this post as I have been unable to articulate my thoughts on all this.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ace!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576307]You nailed it with this post as I have been unable to articulate my thoughts on all this.[/QUOTE]It appears you are the one who is a bit confused. You call the "girls" who visit the hotel for our enjoyment Skanks, yet the girls you meet on (DC) over the Internet are somehow, so much better, because they feign disdain for other women, they know little or nothing about. Bravo is right. Oh Please! They live in the DR and you can be sure 95% of them know what is going on in Sosua. Hell, you meet them on the Internet! Pretty easy for them to Google Sosua before they jumped on a bus to visit you. Yet, I doubt that is even necessary. Like I stated before, why not stay in Puerto Plata, if the women in Sosua offend you and your friend's sensibilities so much? Oh, I forgot YOU GOT GAME. More like you got money. Not a bad thing. It is what it is.

RR.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1576460]It appears you are the one who a bit confused. You call the "girls" who visit the hotel for our enjoyment Skanks, yet the girls you meet on (DC) over the Internet are somehow, so much better, because they feign disdain for other women, they know little or nothing about. Bravo is right. Oh Please! They live in the DR and you can be sure 95% of them know what is going on in Sosua. Hell, you meet them on the Internet! Pretty easy for them to Google Sosua before they jumped on a bus to visit you. Yet, I doubt that is even necessary. Like I stated before, why not stay in Puerto Plata, if the women in Sosua offend you and your friend's sensibilities so much? Oh, forgot YOU GOT GAME. More like you got money. Not a bad thing. It is what it is.

RR.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with you. I think a better word than confused is delusional. Sometimes you can tell more about the person using derogative terms, than the intended target. It makes that individual feel superior and better. Of course its all an illusion.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576455]Two different chicas. One a regular, the other a DC chica. I haven't met her yet. I'm talking to both on Whatsapp today. Both just informed me that they are at the clinic. They both are complaining of having la gripe. I asked the regular to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a picture of her in the bed, a big ass bed. She has the sheet covering her up to her breasts, but she is wearing a regular blouse. And I can see the shadow of her wearing jeans under the sheets. I told her it doesn't look like she is in a clinic, and the size of the bed seems too big for a clinic. She suddenly dropped off communication. I asked for another photo of her room in the clinic. All I hear are crickets. Oh yeah she sent me 2 whatsapp audio messages of her coughing. This shit is funny as hell.

The DCupid chica may be preparing to ask me if I could send her money to help with her clinic bill. To be continued. Many of these women love telling us about their problems. Even if they dont know you well or have a relationship with you.

I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?[/QUOTE]Yup, I've seen this before. Chica from DC that I met up with a few times let me know the day after I left that she was at the clinic and had the same thing, la gripe. I was a little concerned at first and kept in the back of my mind that I have a good feeling about what is coming up next. She told me she was one of the lucky ones in DR that had insurance and had a good doctor. I said that's great.

Then she asked for $300 to pay her medical bills. And to buy a stove that she needs because she is moving out of her parents home. I guess it's nice to have a good doctor, I have a pretty good doctor. But I'd still pay my doctor, no matter how good or bad.

And WTF is up with the stove coming out of nowhere? It's interesting how they try to get creative with asking for money. The same chica has been telling me that Banco Popular has been calling her every day because she has a $300 loan to pay. I advised her that it might help to change up the amount a little bit. $300 for medical bills and a stove. Which I said no to. And then $300 for banco popular loan. She did not think very much on this one.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576479]Yup, I've seen this before. Chica from DC that I met up with a few times let me know the day after I left that she was at the clinic and had the same thing, la gripe. I was a little concerned at first and kept in the back of my mind that I have a good feeling about what is coming up next. She told me she was one of the lucky ones in DR that had insurance and had a good doctor. I said that's great.

Then she asked for $300 to pay her medical bills. And to buy a stove that she needs because she is moving out of her parents home. I guess it's nice to have a good doctor, I have a pretty good doctor. But I'd still pay my doctor, no matter how good or bad.

And WTF is up with the stove coming out of nowhere? It's interesting how they try to get creative with asking for money. The same chica has been telling me that Banco Popular has been calling her every day because she has a $300 loan to pay. I advised her that it might help to change up the amount a little bit. $300 for medical bills and a stove. Which I said no to. And then $300 for banco popular loan. She did not think very much on this one.[/QUOTE]Your killing me here. LOL This is one of the drawbacks to trying to hookup with internet babes. Especially those we find out in the very beginning they are un or under employed.

I just asked the DC chica to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a photo but I can't verify when she took it. Plus she took more than hour to send it. I'm going to play this out to see how far she is willing to go with this. Meanwhile my regular who can't write for shit, can't even explain the picture she sent and still hasnt sent me a 2nd picture of her room at the clinic, that I requested. I think she is about to claim she aint going to send it because I don't believe her. If and when I see her again it will be back to our regular p4 p arrangement on a per use basis.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576455]Two different chicas. One a regular, the other a DC chica. I haven't met her yet. I'm talking to both on Whatsapp today. Both just informed me that they are at the clinic. They both are complaining of having la gripe. I asked the regular to send me a photo of her in the clinic. She sends me a picture of her in the bed, a big ass bed. She has the sheet covering her up to her breasts, but she is wearing a regular blouse. And I can see the shadow of her wearing jeans under the sheets. I told her it doesn't look like she is in a clinic, and the size of the bed seems too big for a clinic. She suddenly dropped off communication. I asked for another photo of her room in the clinic. All I hear are crickets. Oh yeah she sent me 2 whatsapp audio messages of her coughing. This shit is funny as hell.

The DCupid chica may be preparing to ask me if I could send her money to help with her clinic bill. To be continued. Many of these women love telling us about their problems. Even if they dont know you well or have a relationship with you.

I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?[/QUOTE]I had one that post a pic on whatsapp in a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. Her cousin post the same kind of pic the same day. But then she sent me a pic of herself in Dlatins the next day.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1576522]I had one that post a pic on whatsapp in a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. Her cousin post the same kind of pic the same day. But then she sent me a pic of herself in Dlatins the next day.[/QUOTE]I've had one send me one of her arm and the IV in it. I felt bad. I hadn't heard from her in 2 days. 2 minutes later she asked me for $300 because she has to pay her hospital bills but can't pay for her rent and other expenses.

$300 that time too! Man, they always ask for $300. Or maybe it's just with me. Maybe all these girls I am talking to know each other and are telling each other to just try and get $300 from me. Which isn't exactly clever.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1576522]I had one that post a pic on whatsapp in a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. Her cousin post the same kind of pic the same day. But then she sent me a pic of herself in Dlatins the next day.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's the same chica? My DC chica also sent me a photo of her in what appears to be a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. The one I know claims to live close to Punta Cana. So maybe it isn't the same chica. She is 28, claims to have no kids.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576524]I've had one send me one of her arm and the IV in it. I felt bad. I hadn't heard from her in 2 days. 2 minutes later she asked me for $300 because she has to pay her hospital bills but can't pay for her rent and other expenses.

$300 that time too! Man, they always ask for $300. Or maybe it's just with me. Maybe all these girls I am talking to know each other and are telling each other to just try and get $300 from me. Which isn't exactly clever.[/QUOTE]Was her name Dinorah? From Altagraci?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576547]Was her name Dinorah? From Altagraci?[/QUOTE]Nope. But I do get plenty of messages from chica's named Altagracia. I usually get a sense for who I think is a pro and just wants money, and then who is a normal chica. But I believe the pro's are getting a little better at hiding it. Or their excuses anyways.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576545]Maybe it's the same chica? My DC chica also sent me a photo of her in what appears to be a hospital bed with an IV in her arm. The one I know claims to live close to Punta Cana. So maybe it isn't the same chica. She is 28, claims to have no kids.[/QUOTE]The two chicks I'm talking about are Hatian "cousins".

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1576577]Nope. But I do get plenty of messages from chica's named Altagracia. I usually get a sense for who I think is a pro and just wants money, and then who is a normal chica. But I believe the pro's are getting a little better at hiding it. Or their excuses anyways.[/QUOTE]I haven't bothered with DC for a while. And sometimes I question if its even worth the effort. Last trip in April\May was comprised mostly of about 6 regulars all rotated during my trip. 2 more I met were new to me. I knew what I had in those moments, and enjoyed them all. I met them all face to face in Sosua.

Online babes its different. You may not know if you really want to pursue the woman until you actually have a face to face. Before that you may have to deal with BS like what were discussing now. Requests for money, bring me a gift, I'm in the clinic, send me money to come to you, and whatever else they can conjure up. With my regulars or even unexplored talent I run across in Sosua, I seldom have to deal with that. Its p4 p, pay per use. Plain and simple.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1576705]The two chicks I'm talking about are Hatian "cousins".[/QUOTE]Ok then. Definitely different chicas. These testimonials represent how common it is for enough dudes to run across the same shit, just different women doing it.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576455]
I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?[/QUOTE]One of my DC chicas told me her electricity got shut off, it's endless with what they come up with.

[QUOTE=RonnyRon;1576460]It appears you are the one who is a bit confused. You call the "girls" who visit the hotel for our enjoyment Skanks, yet the girls you meet on (DC) over the Internet are somehow, so much better, because they feign disdain for other women, they know little or nothing about. Bravo is right. Oh Please! They live in the DR and you can be sure 95% of them know what is going on in Sosua. Hell, you meet them on the Internet! Pretty easy for them to Google Sosua before they jumped on a bus to visit you. Yet, I doubt that is even necessary. Like I stated before, why not stay in Puerto Plata, if the women in Sosua offend you and your friend's sensibilities so much? Oh, I forgot YOU GOT GAME. More like you got money. Not a bad thing. It is what it is.

RR.[/QUOTE]In regards to what I call the "Skanks" at the Hotel, and most of the girls on the Strip, I find them to be hardcore, sometimes pests, and pretty much all business. The experience's I've had meeting girls over the Internet has far surpassed the Skanks and Chica's I've taken from the Strip. So if that works for me, what's wrong with that. If your into purely sport-fucking for an hour or two, than pulling Chicas off the Strip or from the Hotel is the way to go, and at one time I used to do that. It sounds as though we have different styles as to how we operate down here. WX's 2005 post pretty much summed up the illusions / delusions of these girls. All of these girls are trying to make money and for some of them the thought of meeting someone on the Internet versus on the streets of Sosua is different for them in their minds, but it isn't. Whats different for me though is the experiences I'm having with them versus the one's off the street. I know there are other members on this board that can relate to what I'm trying to convey here.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576748]One of my DC chicas told me her electricity got shut off, it's endless with what they come up with.[/QUOTE]LOL. Doesn't electricity get shutoff on the regular in the DR anyway? I guess she aint lying about her electricity, huh?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576748]One of my DC chicas told me her electricity got shut off, it's endless with what they come up with.[/QUOTE]This also happens in the US, then the next thing you know the house catches fire because the residents are using candles while drunk. You probably haven't been around poor folks very much and don't know about these things.

I have been inside very flimsy wooden dwellings in the DR that have wooden partitions between rooms that don't go all the way to the top and flimsy curtains instead of doors. Just total fire traps when people are using candles to move around after dark. I am surprised not to see more house fires in the DR.

Send her the money. Quick!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1576772]This also happens in the US, then the next thing you know the house catches fire because the residents are using candles while drunk. You probably haven't been around poor folks very much and don't know about these things.

I have been inside very flimsy wooden dwellings in the DR that have wooden partitions between rooms that don't go all the way to the top and flimsy curtains instead of doors. Just total fire traps when people are using candles to move around after dark. I am surprised not to see more house fires in the DR.

Send her the money. Quick![/QUOTE]I think some wise sage posted a list of these chica stories some time ago, and they do all use the same shit.

But, as you say, you have to be careful tarring them all with the same brush if the relationship is otherwise OK.

These things happen with regularity down there, so it's natural for the chicas to exploit them. It's like us calling in sick, with the "flue" or a bad "cold".

Some random requests from my GF:

My brother needs a blood transfusion.

The money you sent was stolen from me on the street.

My uncle is in ER. (Motoconcho accident).

My mother has no fridge (and lots of kids to care for).

I'm in hospital for an emergency operation.

My place had a fire.

The roof blew off.

I had to pawn some of the stuff you gave me, and I need money to get it back.

Can't get the electricity, internet, gas etc turned back on until I pay the bill.

Most of these I checked out independently, because I'm down there with the family a lot. Not sure about the robbery though.

Reluctant to post this trip report given all the "ball busting" lately on the forum but here goes. Arrived last Wednesday staying at my home away from home, Casa Cayena. Unfortunately there was a group of 10 guys staying here that made all kinds of noise and where disrespectful of the staff and other guests. Three guys I met on the flight down from JFK who were staying across the street at "El Rancho" were pissed off with all the noise coming from the eating area and the "pick up" football games in the street. The staff at the hotel didn't like these guys who didn't tip anybody. If these guys had stayed any longer I was going to check out! Truly a bunch of assholes which was the sentiment shared by the other guests who wanted to choke them. Casa Cayena is typically a very tranquil place and Wilfred did the best he could to manage these "pendejos".

On this trip I had planned to meet up with four new DC girls to add to my stable from my last two trips but haven't gotten past the first one! I met this one last week at the Taxi stand and took her to Baileys where I conduct my interviews before proceeding further. I didn't know it but this one turned out to be from Haiti and told me a lot of times people think she is Dominican. I've spent three nights with her and have cancelled / suspended meeting any new DC girls and had to re-schedule one of my DC girls who knew I was coming to town until this Sunday. I was eligible to become an AARP member many years ago and this 29 year old Haitain got 5 leches out of me one night and 4 the other nights. Last night I was woken up at 3:30 in the morning to an unsolicited blow job. This one is a Nympho and I am in Heaven. She's somewhat shy in public, speaks French Creole, Spanish, and English like a lot of the Haitains. I communicate with her primarily in Spanish and we have good physical "Quimica" chemistry together.

Besides hitting the waves at Playa Encuentro and Sosua Bay I plan on going to Santiago on Monday for a day with one of my DC girls before having my Haitain Nympho back over.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576841]Reluctant to post this trip report given all the "ball busting" lately on the forum but here goes. Arrived last Wednesday staying at my home away from home, Casa Cayena. Unfortunately there was a group of 10 guys staying here that made all kinds of noise and where disrespectful of the staff and other guests. Three guys I met on the flight down from JFK who were staying across the street at "El Rancho" were pissed off with all the noise coming from the eating area and the "pick up" football games in the street. The staff at the hotel didn't like these guys who didn't tip anybody. If these guys had stayed any longer I was going to check out! Truly a bunch of assholes which was the sentiment shared by the other guests who wanted to choke them. Casa Cayena is typically a very tranquil place and Wilfred did the best he could to manage these "pendejos".

On this trip I had planned to meet up with four new DC girls to add to my stable from my last two trips but haven't gotten past the first one! I met this one last week at the Taxi stand and took her to Baileys where I conduct my interviews before proceeding further. I didn't know it but this one turned out to be from Haiti and told me a lot of times people think she is Dominican. I've spent three nights with her and have cancelled / suspended meeting any new DC girls and had to re-schedule one of my DC girls who knew I was coming to town until this Sunday. I was eligible to become an AARP member many years ago and this 29 year old Haitain got 5 leches out of me one night and 4 the other nights. Last night I was woken up at 3:30 in the morning to an unsolicited blow job. This one is a Nympho and I am in Heaven. She's somewhat shy in public, speaks French Creole, Spanish, and English like a lot of the Haitains. I communicate with her primarily in Spanish and we have good physical "Quimica" chemistry together.

Besides hitting the waves at Playa Encuentro and Sosua Bay I plan on going to Santiago on Monday for a day with one of my DC girls before having my Haitain Nympho back over.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about the assholes at the hotel.

I always wondered what happens in those situations, as I know a lot of party type guys who go down to the islands. I always tell them I would hate to ever get stuck in the same hotel as you.

5 Leches! Wow that's wasssssuppp!

Baileys! I loved that place. Close enough to people / chica watch, but not in the main strip, ice cold beers, good food!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1576837]I think some wise sage posted a list of these chica stories some time ago, and they do all use the same shit.

But, as you say, you have to be careful tarring them all with the same brush if the relationship is otherwise OK.

These things happen with regularity down there, so it's natural for the chicas to exploit them.[/QUOTE]And as always your reaponse should be, "And what the fuck does THAT have to do with me?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576765]LOL. Doesn't electricity get shutoff on the regular in the DR anyway? I guess she aint lying about her electricity, huh?[/QUOTE]Not having electricity for several hours a day is part of daily life in alot of areas in the the D.R. and the main reason for not having electricity is, that alot of dominicans simply do not pay for electricity in the first place.

RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.

RULE 2: Everything a puta does is for money, gifts or to support her puta lifestyle.

RULE 3: A puta never is swayed by the man, but always by his money.

RULE 4: No amount of money or gifts is enough to keep the interest of a puta more than 10 minutes after the gift or money is given.

RULE 5: Any money sent to the family allows the puta to support her lifestyle and is a payoff to her mother or aunt to watch her kid while she parties.

RULE 6: Never open your heart to a puta no matter why when, where or for how long.

RULE 7: A puta will never open her heart to a Gringo no matter why when, where or for how long.

RULE 8: Since a puta wants the most money possible she will lie as much as possible.

RULE 9: Since she will lie as much as possible she will rather die before telling the whole truth or any fraction thereof, unless she makes a mistake.

RULE 10: It never ever matters what a puta says. Only to the extent it's amusing.

RULE 11: It only matters how well a PUTA fucks, how offen she fucks and how convincing she is that she's having a great time doing it.

RULE 12: Never WU a puta.

RULE 13: Never give a puta a gift unless it's in exchange for a fuck. In no case give the money or gift before fucking.

RULE 14: Never fuck the same puta more than once if possible unles you want to be hit up for bucks mano a mano every time you see her face.

RULE 15: Since you don't want to see the puta face to face every time you take a walk, don't fuck regular street putas in Sosua.

RULE 16: If you want to have a perfect exuse to dump a puta if you need to fuck her more than once, tell her that you will dump her immediatley if she ever lies to you even just a little (cause if she will lie for a little she will lie for alot).

RULE 17: If a puta says she loves you, DUMP HER cause she's lying! Unless she fucks very well and you don't mind hearing lies every time you fuck her. (A normal puta will tell you she loves you either in bed or in text message within a very short time.).

RULE 18: Make sure you find out 2 very important things: Chulo? Age? And always find out before walking anywhere with her.

RULE 19: Keep all your stuff locked no matter when or for how long.

RULE 20: Watch that cellphone!

RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1576887]RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.

RULE 2: Everything a puta does is for money, gifts or to support her puta lifestyle.

RULE 3: A puta never is swayed by the man, but always by his money.

RULE 4: No amount of money or gifts is enough to keep the interest of a puta more than 10 minutes after the gift or money is given.

RULE 5: Any money sent to the family allows the puta to support her lifestyle and is a payoff to her mother or aunt to watch her kid while she parties.

RULE 6: Never open your heart to a puta no matter why when, where or for how long.

RULE 7: A puta will never open her heart to a Gringo no matter why when, where or for how long.

RULE 8: Since a puta wants the most money possible she will lie as much as possible.

RULE 9: Since she will lie as much as possible she will rather die before telling the whole truth or any fraction thereof, unless she makes a mistake.

RULE 10: It never ever matters what a puta says. Only to the extent it's amusing.

RULE 11: It only matters how well a PUTA fucks, how offen she fucks and how convincing she is that she's having a great time doing it.

RULE 12: Never WU a puta.

RULE 13: Never give a puta a gift unless it's in exchange for a fuck. In no case give the money or gift before fucking.

RULE 14: Never fuck the same puta more than once if possible unles you want to be hit up for bucks mano a mano every time you see her face.

RULE 15: Since you don't want to see the puta face to face every time you take a walk, don't fuck regular street putas in Sosua.

RULE 16: If you want to have a perfect exuse to dump a puta if you need to fuck her more than once, tell her that you will dump her immediatley if she ever lies to you even just a little (cause if she will lie for a little she will lie for alot).

RULE 17: If a puta says she loves you, DUMP HER cause she's lying! Unless she fucks very well and you don't mind hearing lies every time you fuck her. (A normal puta will tell you she loves you either in bed or in text message within a very short time.).

RULE 18: Make sure you find out 2 very important things: Chulo? Age? And always find out before walking anywhere with her.

RULE 19: Keep all your stuff locked no matter when or for how long.

RULE 20: Watch that cellphone!

RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.[/QUOTE]What does Chulo mean, or did you mean to say Culo?

I've had 3 real novias in DR non were putas and I am a big fat Gringo. 1 was a hairdresser, I met her walking through a gas staion while I was buying gas she went to get lunch.

She never asked me for money. Once, I gave her some money because she had her purse stolen with her money and cell phone. This happened right in front of me, motorcycle buy swiped it and took off. I bought her a new pocket book and a some money less than 2 k if I recall correctly. I would meet her after work for a meal and some cabana time and then drive her to her sister. She bought me a birthday present, she would buy me drinks or little snacks, the whole salon would treat me like a king when I visited. I would get hair cuts, with a wash etc. Very enjoyable girl. A little crazy but very nice.

Never a gold digger. In fact she broke up with me and never got more that a paid meal from me. Normal date expenditures.

Girl friend #2 was a client of above girlfriend. I should have stayed with her, her dad owns a hotel (cabana) and car dealership. She asked to borrow 20 k once after going out for a while. I reluctantly gave it to her knowing I was never going to see it again. But after several months of really good time I figured what the heck, I she did not pay me back I would dump her and have learned a lesson in the process. She payed me back ahead of time without me even asking for it. I made an arrangement with her dad to buy a used car from him. I got it for 17 k pesos less than the listed value you pay a tax on a car when doing the paperwork and the tax office has a table with the value of the car, you pay a % of the greater value. He could of tried to rip me off instead he gave me a deal. I am still amigos con derechas with her. She just got married to a foreigner from spain and she is leaving this month but still wants a last fling with me. I would take her out and pay for normal date expenditures, no cabana needed as I would star for free at her dads place. The most expensive gift I got her was a dog, 3 k.

Last one, I've been with her for over 4 years now, she is in the university now which I pay for but I'm wifed up with her. She minds my money and doesn't go crazy. As for her family, I don't give money to anyone. I made an investment in her father on a clothing business which he pays me part of the profits regularly. So far, I've made my money back and then some. I see about 5 k every month from this business.

So I've gotten lucky 3 times so far.

I have a long list of situations like this, not to say dominicans haven't scammed me or tried. That has happened, but truly never with a working girl down here.

My dad was cop and he thought everyone was a bad person, I told him since you deal with bad people all of the time you get that opinion of most people.

So the girls you deal with are probably hard core they have gotten hardened to their clients. Your comments are true of a small percentage of working girls in DR. Most working girls wouldn't classify themselves as Putas.

Anyway only my opinion, feel free to rip into my thoughts.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1576887]RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.

RULE 2: Everything a puta does is for money, gifts or to support her puta lifestyle.

RULE 3: A puta never is swayed by the man, but always by his money.

RULE 4: No amount of money or gifts is enough to keep the interest of a puta more than 10 minutes after the gift or money is given.

RULE 5: Any money sent to the family allows the puta to support her lifestyle and is a payoff to her mother or aunt to watch her kid while she parties.

RULE 6: Never open your heart to a puta no matter why when, where or for how long.

RULE 7: A puta will never open her heart to a Gringo no matter why when, where or for how long.

RULE 8: Since a puta wants the most money possible she will lie as much as possible.

RULE 9: Since she will lie as much as possible she will rather die before telling the whole truth or any fraction thereof, unless she makes a mistake.

RULE 10: It never ever matters what a puta says. Only to the extent it's amusing.

RULE 11: It only matters how well a PUTA fucks, how offen she fucks and how convincing she is that she's having a great time doing it.

RULE 12: Never WU a puta.

RULE 13: Never give a puta a gift unless it's in exchange for a fuck. In no case give the money or gift before fucking.

RULE 14: Never fuck the same puta more than once if possible unles you want to be hit up for bucks mano a mano every time you see her face.

RULE 15: Since you don't want to see the puta face to face every time you take a walk, don't fuck regular street putas in Sosua.

RULE 16: If you want to have a perfect exuse to dump a puta if you need to fuck her more than once, tell her that you will dump her immediatley if she ever lies to you even just a little (cause if she will lie for a little she will lie for alot).

RULE 17: If a puta says she loves you, DUMP HER cause she's lying! Unless she fucks very well and you don't mind hearing lies every time you fuck her. (A normal puta will tell you she loves you either in bed or in text message within a very short time.).

RULE 18: Make sure you find out 2 very important things: Chulo? Age? And always find out before walking anywhere with her.

RULE 19: Keep all your stuff locked no matter when or for how long.

RULE 20: Watch that cellphone!

RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1576887]

RULE 1: All girls who will go out with Gringos in the DR are putas.
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RULE 21: Experience Sosua a few times then leave it for a long time.[/QUOTE]A comprehensive list, to be sure, Orgamsmico.

The great thing is, if you understand those rules, you'll never be disappointed in Sosua.

Which is more than you can say about a lot of our N.American wives and girlfriends, who we tend to trust and support blindly.

In the long run Sosua chicas are much cheaper too.

And way more fun!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576854]And as always your reaponse should be, "And what the fuck does THAT have to do with me?[/QUOTE]I fell off my chair laughing at that one.

Trouble is it doesn't translate well into Spanish, so the chica will not see the humor in it.

My response to the sob stories is just a simple sigh, "Esta la vie!

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1576894]I've had 3 real novias in DR non were putas and I am a big fat Gringo. 1 was a hairdresser, I met her walking through a gas staion while I was buying gas she went to get lunch.

She never asked me for money. Once, I gave her some money because she had her purse stolen with her money and cell phone. This happened right in front of me, motorcycle buy swiped it and took off. I bought her a new pocket book and a some money less than 2 k if I recall correctly. I would meet her after work for a meal and some cabana time and then drive her to her sister. She bought me a birthday present, she would buy me drinks or little snacks, the whole salon would treat me like a king when I visited. I would get hair cuts, with a wash etc. Very enjoyable girl. A little crazy but very nice.

Never a gold digger. In fact she broke up with me and never got more that a paid meal from me. Normal date expenditures.

Girl friend #2 was a client of above girlfriend. I should have stayed with her, her dad owns a hotel (cabana) and car dealership. She asked to borrow 20 k once after going out for a while. I reluctantly gave it to her knowing I was never going to see it again. But after several months of really good time I figured what the heck, I she did not pay me back I would dump her and have learned a lesson in the process. She payed me back ahead of time without me even asking for it. I made an arrangement with her dad to buy a used car from him. I got it for 17 k pesos less than the listed value you pay a tax on a car when doing the paperwork and the tax office has a table with the value of the car, you pay a % of the greater value. He could of tried to rip me off instead he gave me a deal. I am still amigos con derechas with her. She just got married to a foreigner from spain and she is leaving this month but still wants a last fling with me. I would take her out and pay for normal date expenditures, no cabana needed as I would star for free at her dads place. The most expensive gift I got her was a dog, 3 k.

Last one, I've been with her for over 4 years now, she is in the university now which I pay for but I'm wifed up with her. She minds my money and doesn't go crazy. As for her family, I don't give money to anyone. I made an investment in her father on a clothing business which he pays me part of the profits regularly. So far, I've made my money back and then some. I see about 5 k every month from this business.

So I've gotten lucky 3 times so far.

I have a long list of situations like this, not to say dominicans haven't scammed me or tried. That has happened, but truly never with a working girl down here.

My dad was cop and he thought everyone was a bad person, I told him since you deal with bad people all of the time you get that opinion of most people.

So the girls you deal with are probably hard core they have gotten hardened to their clients. Your comments are true of a small percentage of working girls in DR. Most working girls wouldn't classify themselves as Putas.

Anyway only my opinion, feel free to rip into my thoughts.[/QUOTE]The girls you've met are obviously not the average Sosua chica, who lives from trick to trick, in a very competitive business, with no other means of support.

These latter comprise most of the young women you'll meet in Sosua, rather than the small percentage you imply.

Sosua is, after all, one big brothel.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1576904]A comprehensive list, to be sure, Orgamsmico.

The great thing is, if you understand those rules, you'll never be disappointed in Sosua.

Which is more than you can say about a lot of our N.American wives and girlfriends, who we tend to trust and support blindly.

In the long run Sosua chicas are much cheaper too.

And way more fun![/QUOTE]I can't imagine any man that has discovered this hobby putting up with western female bullshit. That's why I stay on the road.

Thinking of changing my handle to PoppaRollingStone.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1576913]I can't imagine any man that has discovered this hobby putting up with western female bullshit. That's why I stay on the road.

Thinking of changing my handle to PoppaRollingStone.[/QUOTE]So you assert that it is better to put up with foreign female bullshit? All women are foing to give you bs. It's just a matter of what kind you are willing to put up with.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1576967]So you assert that it is better to put up with foreign female bullshit? All women are foing to give you bs. It's just a matter of what kind you are willing to put up with.[/QUOTE]The key is you're able to detach and hop on a plane and go to another life. In America the BS is there for everyday life and sometimes its not so easy to detach. I choose to not even fuck with chics in the States because its on the home turf and it usually turns into a competition for control of the relationship.

When I travel I'm just gone. Try to be gone with a girl in the States and the drama will start. When women in the States lose the upper hand then you have girls wanting payback. If its them bad mouthing you or fucking with your prized possessions.

I've been with a Thai girl for six years that won't go away because she doesn't want me being happy without her. So her goal is to be a pest and spoil my happiness. She drives by my place unannounced, calls and hangs up, and asks my neighbors of I have girls there. Guys traveling don't have this kind of BS to deal with, you just hop on a plane and its over. So I agree with the poster that says its better to travel and have fun then detach.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1576893]What does Chulo mean, or did you mean to say Culo?[/QUOTE]Chulo means pimp, who could be her real dominican boyfriend, primo.....

[QUOTE=Berthold;1577129]Chulo means pimp, who could be her real dominican boyfriend, primo.....[/QUOTE]Really, it does not mean "pimp". It means something like "darling" or "sweetheart". I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. When adults admire (or politely pretend to admire) their friends toddlers and babies in their pushchairs they will call them "chulo".

But the fact that gringos think it means "pimp" is a reflection on the nature of prostitution in the DR. Full-time pimping is not the norm here, although it does exist. Putas are nearly all self-employed. If they pass some or all of the money on to a man, it will usually be to their own boyfriend, or to a family member, to whom they are emotionally attached, which is why they are called "chulos" (their "sweethearts").

[QUOTE=Oakie;1576906]I fell off my chair laughing at that one.

Trouble is it doesn't translate well into Spanish, so the chica will not see the humor in it.

My response to the sob stories is just a simple sigh, "Esta la vie![/QUOTE]What makes you think anyone will understand a mixture of Spanish, French, Italian, and Creole?

If you want to say it in Haitian Creole, it would be "Sa se lavi", but if you want to say it in Spanish something like "asi es la vida" would get the job done better and people would understand you.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1576894]


So I've gotten lucky 3 times so far.

I have a long list of situations like this, not to say dominicans haven't scammed me or tried. That has happened, but truly never with a working girl down here.

So the girls you deal with are probably hard core they have gotten hardened to their clients. Your comments are true of a small percentage of working girls in DR. Most working girls wouldn't classify themselves as Putas.

Anyway only my opinion, feel free to rip into my thoughts.[/QUOTE]Nice to here about continued on going happiness in the DR.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1577148]If you want to say it in Haitian Creole, it would be "Sa se lavi",....[/QUOTE]So, "Ca, see'est la vie" is transformed into "Sa se lavi" and it is now creole? Que chulo! How cool!

Since I always have good luck on FC, I decided to join DC before my upcoming Sosua trip. I guess I'm just spoiled with the Filipinas because despite being able to read and write Spanish my results on DC could best be described as "crashed and burned". Looks like I'll have to pretty much settle for Rumba or hotel "skanks" as one forum member described them.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1577146]Really, it does not mean "pimp". It means something like "darling" or "sweetheart". I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. When adults admire (or politely pretend to admire) their friends toddlers and babies in their pushchairs they will call them "chulo".

But the fact that gringos think it means "pimp" is a reflection on the nature of prostitution in the DR. Full-time pimping is not the norm here, although it does exist. Putas are nearly all self-employed. If they pass some or all of the money on to a man, it will usually be to their own boyfriend, or to a family member, to whom they are emotionally attached, which is why they are called "chulos" (their "sweethearts").[/QUOTE]Chulo can be used both as an adjective or a noun so both of you a correct.

[QUOTE=David_33;1577218]Since I always have good luck on FC, I decided to join DC before my upcoming Sosua trip. I guess I'm just spoiled with the Filipinas because despite being able to read and write Spanish my results on DC could best be described as "crashed and burned". Looks like I'll have to pretty much settle for Rumba or hotel "skanks" as one forum member described them.[/QUOTE]If you can read and write Spanish you should have no problem on the DC Site unless your old like me and trying to hook-up with the 18-21 year old's who may be more reluctant to meet you. Try going on-line and chatting with a few. I have had great luck with the ones between 25 and 29. If however your into sport fucking, don't waste your time on the DC Site. The "skanks" as I refer to them that pursue the Hotels and the girls on the Strip are perfect for short time sessions and can be good for long time sessions if you hit it off with them.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1577146]Really, it does not mean "pimp". It means something like "darling" or "sweetheart". I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. When adults admire (or politely pretend to admire) their friends toddlers and babies in their pushchairs they will call them "chulo".

.[/QUOTE]I thought chulo had two meanings. An adjective and a Noun.

1) You use for children and babies. Kinda of like looking at a baby and saying "She is so cute or precious! (Adjective).

2) For a pimp or hustler. If you call a man a chulo, your not calling them cute. (Noun).

[QUOTE=Bravo;1577250]I thought chulo had two meanings. An adjective and a Noun.

1) You use for children and babies. Kinda of like looking at a baby and saying "She is so cute or precious! (Adjective).

2) For a pimp or hustler. If you call a man a chulo, your not calling them cute. (Noun).[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct it used as an an adjective and a noun.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1577148]What makes you think anyone will understand a mixture of Spanish, French, Italian, and Creole?

If you want to say it in Haitian Creole, it would be "Sa se lavi", but if you want to say it in Spanish something like "asi es la vida" would get the job done better and people would understand you.[/QUOTE]She understands perfectly. Some words are global now. They all listen to the same songs.

Ciao, baby.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1576913]I can't imagine any man that has discovered this hobby putting up with western female bullshit. That's why I stay on the road.

Thinking of changing my handle to PoppaRollingStone.[/QUOTE]I think I understand what you are saying. You are saying having this hobby is a welcome relief and / or alternative to dealing with the type of female bullshit that is common with western women. So you travel frequently (stay on the road) to destinations where you can enjoy this hobby.

Ad-libbing here, if you encounter BS from foreign women, you are willing to take those risks. Foreign women are less likely to get half of your pension, get you kicked out of a house you are paying for, take your kids from you, get a portion of your 401 k,and more. The dating scene with western women has men at a disadvantage in terms of what it takes to get to the ultimate goal, which is to get laid.

Using the DR for example, in this hobby, guys are getting laid for less money with less hassle within less time than they would back home with their western women. Having said that, Mr E is also correct when he states "It's just a matter of what kind you are willing to put up with. ".

Most guys enjoying this hobby have discovered personally they would rather enjoy this hobby and tolerate the kind of BS they have experienced, than be some dude who got railroaded in a divorce through dealing with western women. Or some dude still playing the dating mating game of courtship and getting very little for his efforts. Moreover, merely listening to or exposing oneself to women trying to run game but not really getting anywhere, I dont consider that putting up with BS. Nobody can run from BS, or risk or gambling. It's everywhere. Were taking risks even when we arent aware we are doing it. The idea is to keep BS in it's place or at least be aware of it, without it becoming a burden or an imposition on your life or peace of mind. With anything there may be setbacks or disapointments. Maybe some regrets. But what was the cost? Did you lose your house,pension? Or did you lose 6k pesos,a cell phone,your tablet,some jewelry,cologne? Practicing prostitution with the consent of law enforcement right in front of you??? I'd say dealing with foreign women's BS in comparison to western women, is worth the risk.

BTW one of my other regulars from San Pedro who has been talking about coming for my next trip just informed me that she needs to go to the dentist because her teeth hurt. This info came from me simply asking "Como esta". They love when you ask lead in questions so they can start telling you about some problem.

Now I suppose if I were to agree for her to come, she will try to get me to give her money for the dentist. The per diem rate for her "job" in San Pedro, and whatever I would consider giving her upon her departure. She doesn't know this, but I have no interest in allowing her to come, subjecting myself to a bunch of expenses. That doesn't even include what I would have to pay to feed her, and whatever she tries to buy from the supermercado.

On the flip side. In the states, I'm sure I paid more when dealing with a chick there and didn't get nearly the same amount of enjoyment as I would with a chica from the DR. It's just that ,I know I can get a better deal close to my spot ( in the DR ) without depending on someone to come from San Pedro ( with a laundry list of expenses.) The expenses I know about, and the ones I will find out about after being with her for a few days.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1577250]You use {chulo} for children and babies. Kinda of like looking at a baby and saying "She is so cute or precious!"[/QUOTE]Exactly so.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1577250]For a pimp or hustler. If you call a man a chulo, your not calling them cute.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter]I live among respectable middle-class Dominicans, most of them religious, and they call each other "chulo" and "chula" all the time. [/QUOTE]So all the veterinarians, "old money" landowners, and Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, in our apartment block are really hustling putas on the side? I don't think so!

Obviously it depends on the context. If a puta's "chulo" is accepting money from her activities then you could call him a pimp. But if it was her mother accepting the money, as in a widely reported case last week, it doesn't mean that "madre" means "pimp".

And what about someone like Peter at Passions? He was a full-time pimp, but he was only a "chulo" to his wife. I have never heard him referred to as a "chulo" by anyone else.

I bet it is used a hundred times with my meaning for every once with yours.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

My next rant will be directed at those who think "chica" means "prostitute". If you look back over the posts there have been quite a few.

Just arrived in Sosua check in hotel europe. Got my normal room $35.00. Hotels seems packed. There are a lot of dime pieces coming in and out of the front door. A lot of men seem to be happy they look as if they have been intoxicated from the fountain. I just hit surfer up hopefully I can catch up with him. I wonder what the night has in store for me.

9 times out of 10 I get this bs from American women.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1577317]if you encounter BS from foreign women, you are willing to take those risks. Foreign women are less likely to get half of your pension, get you kicked out of a house you are paying for, take your kids from you, get a portion of your 401 k,and more. The dating scene with western women has men at a disadvantage in terms of what it takes to get to the ultimate goal, which is to get laid.
[/QUOTE]Post of the year. Amen!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1576909]The girls you've met are obviously not the average Sosua chica, who lives from trick to trick, in a very competitive business, with no other means of support.

These latter comprise most of the young women you'll meet in Sosua, rather than the small percentage you imply.

Sosua is, after all, one big brothel.[/QUOTE]Santo Domingo is much bigger that Sosua, I've found that the dregs of society down here are near the tourist areas (that's where the money is). The small percentage of hard care women are in these places. The rest of the women are more towards the normal side (still easy by American standards) but less money grubbers. BTW, those of you who refer to Western women, DR is in the Western Hemisphere.

If your comment were along the lines that most women in Sosua that date gringos are putas, I would agree with that statement.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577323]9 times out of 10 I get this bs from American women.[/QUOTE]That is classic. At this point I only need the states for money (I guess I'm Dominican). When I go back I can't even bring myself to get a hooker. Anything decent is 100+ per hour, I can get 4 girls for that price down here. If you try and date a regular girl you need to put in more effort and a lot more money than that.

Much easier down here, even with regular girls. The longest I've waited down here was the 3rd date and I was in.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1577323]9 times out of 10 I get this bs from American women.[/QUOTE]Last date with an AW (American Woman) I went on was in April. It was a dinner date and the bill came out to damn near $70 dollars. When the check came she looked at me all starry-eyed like "you know the deal. " I went ahead and paid the entire bill and chalked it up to the game, plus I had no intention of calling her after that date (it was a case of "you looked hotter on the internet".

Funny thing was how during the date she talked about how on some of her previous dates with other guys the bill would come out to around $300-$400 dollars.

And bravo to you Mr. E! "Old Fashioned" my ass, LOL. I love your responses to her.

She spelled first "fist", btw.

Found this earlier today. Probably should post it in the Opinions American Women thread. The comments section of the article is the best part:

[B]8 reasons why New York women cant get a husband[/B]

[URL]http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/princeton-mom-heres-why-new-york-women-cant-get-a-husband/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1576455]

I just love the DR. Full of entertainment. This clinic thing is becoming an epidemic. This has to be the 5th women in a months time that has told me they were in the clinic or going to the clinic. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys are getting more of the same?[/QUOTE]

Do you guys really wonder why all these girls go to the clinic instead of a public hospital. Take a look

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1577321]Just arrived in Sosua check in hotel europe. Got my normal room $35.00. Hotels seems packed. There are a lot of dime pieces coming in and out of the front door. A lot of men seem to be happy they look as if they have been intoxicated from the fountain. I just hit surfer up hopefully I can catch up with him. I wonder what the night has in store for me.[/QUOTE]I know what I have in store for me tonight!

Live in the belly of the beast everything looks like a live night. I'm nice cool breeze no sign of rain and just enuff clouds to keep the air temperature down. I see a few regulars at a lot of new faces. The ratio at this time is about three females to one guy. The police are roaming the streets in force. I'm sure that once they leave things will be live and kicking hard.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1577326]Santo Domingo is much bigger that Sosua, I've found that the dregs of society down here are near the tourist areas (that's where the money is). The small percentage of hard care women are in these places. The rest of the women are more towards the normal side (still easy by American standards) but less money grubbers. BTW, those of you who refer to Western women, DR is in the Western Hemisphere.

If your comment were along the lines that most women in Sosua that date gringos are putas, I would agree with that statement.[/QUOTE]We're on the same page. I was just pointing out that your happy experiences with relatively upscale chicas is not shared by 95% of mongers on this board who gravitate to the tourist areas like bees around honey.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1577326]BTW, those of you who refer to Western women, DR is in the Western Hemisphere.

If your comment were along the lines that most women in Sosua that date gringos are putas, I would agree with that statement.[/QUOTE]Speaking for myself, my reference to WW was referring to women I'm familiar with the most. Those from the united states. So every reference I made to WW, just substitute that reference to mean North American Women or what's typically found in the United States or Canada. Where similar issues apply in the world, just include those women from those areas too. That should cover North, East South and West.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1577329]Do you guys really wonder why all these girls go to the clinic instead of a public hospital. Take a look[/QUOTE]No it hadn't occured to me. I didn't know if they made a distinction, or not. I thought many of them use those terms (clinic / hospital) interchangeably. However that picture looks pretty bad. Is that supposed to be a picture within a public hospital? See if you were a chica sending me that picture, my bullshit meter would be on alert. Because I would be thinking she was trying to get me to react to that photo for a particular reason. BTW, how did YOU get that photo?

As usual, this theme has recycled back into a conversation piece blaming all on the American women. So here is a real life example:

My brother who is a doctor, married a woman who is a doctor as well. They split after a child was born and all my brother paid, after the ex wife moved to another state is child support. No more no less. The amount a man has to pay is dependent on the woman's earnings. So hush. Marry up. If you are high school, marry a college girl. I. e. , a woman above your social and economic stature (if she would have you that is) -and stop whining about women taking all. What BS!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1577328]Last date with an AW (American Woman) I went on was in April. It was a dinner date and the bill came out to damn near $70 dollars. When the check came she looked at me all starry-eyed like "you know the deal. " I went ahead and paid the entire bill and chalked it up to the game, plus I had no intention of calling her after that date (it was a case of "you looked hotter on the internet".

Funny thing was how during the date she talked about how on some of her previous dates with other guys the bill would come out to around $300-$400 dollars.

And bravo to you Mr. E! "Old Fashioned" my ass, LOL. I love your responses to her.

She spelled first "fist", btw.

Found this earlier today. Probably should post it in the Opinions American Women thread. The comments section of the article is the best part:

[B]8 reasons why New York women cant get a husband[/B]

[URL]http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/princeton-mom-heres-why-new-york-women-cant-get-a-husband/[/URL][/QUOTE]IMO internet dating in the states is probably the worst thing a guy can do. Even worse is agreeing and meeting a woman for the 1st time at a restaurant. Now, I'll be the 1st to admit. Many of my 1st time meetings were at restaurants. I realize now, that that was not really a good idea. Back then I rationalized it by thinking, dining out is something I like, so why not? I justified my expenditures with putas in the DR in the very beginning as well (their poor etc) , I justified my meeting my internet babes from the states at restaurants (I love going out to eat with a companion).

The only dating sites I think I stand a better chance are the foreign ones. Like Dominican Cupid and the like. A close female friend gave me some advice years ago. She also used dating websites in the states to find men (Black People Meet). She said, don't put too much energy in pursuing women on a dating website. She said it is much better to choose the women that choose you. The ones that express interest in you 1st. That way it is more likely she may be really interested. If you chase the women that are likely in demand by a bunch of other hungry men on the dating website, you are more likely to be one of those that gets juggled in the rotation of other men waiting their turn to take her out, spend money and end up with a woman with the same expectations depicted in Mr E's example. Now a guy may choose to follow her formula to see where it may lead to, but he will quickly find out she has said and is prepared to say that to a dozen more men. She don't care if it doesn't lead to anything serious. She is enjoying guys trying to run her obstacle course to get to her juice box.

As well as enjoying the free meals she can get from going out with a different guy everyday of the week.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1577327]When I go back I can't even bring myself to get a hooker. Anything decent is 100+ per hour[/QUOTE]USA can be very expensive for putang: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnQlfp99vk[/URL].

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1577352]No it hadn't occured to me. I didn't know if they made a distinction, or not. I thought many of them use those terms (clinic / hospital) interchangeably. However that picture looks pretty bad. Is that supposed to be a picture within a public hospital? See if you were a chica sending me that picture, my bullshit meter would be on alert. Because I would be thinking she was trying to get me to react to that photo for a particular reason. BTW, how did YOU get that photo?[/QUOTE]Yes this is a picture of a public hospital in Santo Domingo, I know a girl who is working there.

In the the. Are. Anything is possible I know a doctor here in San Christobal who I sometimes visit while he is working in the emergency room without any problems, even there sometimes they do stitches without gloves.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1577355]As usual, this theme has recycled back into a conversation piece blaming all on the American women. So here is a real life example:

My brother who is a doctor, married a woman who is a doctor as well. They split after a child was born and all my brother paid, after the ex wife moved to another state is child support. No more no less. The amount a man has to pay is dependent on the woman's earnings. So hush. Marry up. If you are high school, marry a college girl. I. e. , a woman above your social and economic stature (if she would have you that is) -and stop whining about women taking all. What BS![/QUOTE]But thanks for the information to help the case. Try to think this thing through. Your brother married a doctor. But for some reason him marrying a doctor didn't stop him from having to deal with some BS causing them to split up. It could very well mean he realized he married the wrong woman, or perhaps him not getting something in the relationship.

Or it could be some area about him that concerned her. Either way. Some good marrying a doctor did for his ass. He ended up splitting up right after a child was born. And now he's divorced. Now he has to deal with the distance apart from the child, and how that may impact on his relationship with the child. Plus, why did she get primary custody of the child anyway? And the only thing you come with is the cost of him paying child support? The fact that a mans obligation to pay is dependent upon the womans earnings is a clear example of why nobody should be signing up for some entity to be dictating how much you should be paying.

Check this out. They are both doctors, why did she get the child? If she lost her job, how much would he have to pay her then? Have you thought about this? If he lost his job how much would he have to pay her even if she was still working? Would his obligation to pay be reduced? He has to get permission from some court to have child support reduced? Here's something else you may not have thought of; Did he have proof from the very beginning that the child was even his? In most instances, if a wife has a child, the husband is presumed to be the father. In enough instances, some men still had to pay child support for a child that their wives had with another man. So a man can be totally clueless about the paternity of a child until something comes up. Since you have not considered any of this, and only concerned about child support payments, and erroneously concluding this is about ALL american women, perhaps you should hush and just stay out of grown folks conversation.

You can't even use yourself as an example of somebody who married up and is still happlily married. You had to use your brother as an example? A poor example at that! SMH.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1577355]The amount a man has to pay is dependent on the woman's earnings.[/QUOTE]This is totally erroneous. There are several factors that play into it and some are completely up to the judge. For instance, behavior by the individual parties. If your brother was a cheating, drug taking loser and had money the judge would have cleaned him out. Also, the laws pertaining to divorce vary tremendously from state to state, some states split all assets down the middle regardless.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1577680]This is totally erroneous. There are several factors that play into it and some are completely up to the judge. For instance, behavior by the individual parties. If your brother was a cheating, drug taking loser and had money the judge would have cleaned him out. Also, the laws pertaining to divorce vary tremendously from state to state, some states split all assets down the middle regardless.[/QUOTE]All 50 states have had no fault divorce laws since about 1985, though possibly there is some difference in individual states in the way in which the law is carried out. However it unlikely that there are many places where "it is completely up to the judge."

Many states provide an informal mediation service that decides the nuts and bolts of how property will be divided. If you can reach an agreement with the other party, this can also be enacted without the details of the settlement being approved by the court.

In most states property that belonged to one of the individuals is not considered part of the marital estate, for example:

Any property that was owned by either spouse prior to the marriage;.

An inheritance received by the husband or wife (either before or after the marriage);.

A gift received by the husband or wife from a third party (your mother gave you her diamond ring);.

Payment received for pain and suffering portion in a personal injury judgment.

However all assets that were accumulated during the course of the marriage are considered to be joint property so this does favor the non working or lower paid wife over her more affluent husband, but not so much the higher paid wife.

California is a joint property state where the person who has considerable assets should be very careful about marrying a person who is less wealthy without an iron clad prenuptial agreement. This is why celebrity show-biz marriages there get into the news. Comedian John Cleese seems to have gotten badly shafted in a California divorce, having to continue to tour into his seventies to pay for the lavish lifestyle of an ex-wife he married in California.

British law also favors wives, however famous divorced men like Paul McCartney and Prince Charles have gotten off with most of their fortunes intact.

Just as a side note: If a female physician lost her job (assuming she was not self employed) it is unlikely that she would not be able to get another job at a similar level unless she had become disabled or something like that.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1577321]Just arrived in Sosua check in hotel europe. Got my normal room $35.00. Hotels seems packed. There are a lot of dime pieces coming in and out of the front door. A lot of men seem to be happy they look as if they have been intoxicated from the fountain. I just hit surfer up hopefully I can catch up with him. I wonder what the night has in store for me.[/QUOTE]Is 35 $ the normal rate they were trying to charge me 40 or 45.

All the rooms there are basicly the same? All have kitchenettes with stove and microwave?

Sosua last night was in his normal form. The women came out to represent. Their need to pay their monthly rent. Whom ever came up with the idea of closing of the streetis alright with me. It gives you more room instead of being stuffed in the club. Rumba loses money because not so many people are in the club now they just walked back and forth in the open space. My flavor for the night mature and sexy. She stayed all night and accepted whatever I gave her. The sex wasn't as well as being with a younger thoroughbred. But for 2000 pesos Who am I to complain.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1577770]Sosua last night was in his normal form. The women came out to represent. Their need to pay their monthly rent. Whom ever came up with the idea of closing of the streetis alright with me. It gives you more room instead of being stuffed in the club. Rumba loses money because not so many people are in the club now they just walked back and forth in the open space. My flavor for the night mature and sexy. She stayed all night and accepted whatever I gave her. The sex wasn't as well as being with a younger thoroughbred. But for 2000 pesos Who am I to complain.[/QUOTE]So this one was "maduro" (mature) but not a thoroughbred. Were you with somebody's grandmother again last night.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1577728]All 50 states have had no fault divorce laws since about 1985, though possibly there is some difference in individual states in the way in which the law is carried out. However it unlikely that there are many places where "it is completely up to the judge." [/QUOTE]Frannie, are you a lawyer? I was in divorce court on Thursday. I have a pre-nup and a good portion of my assets were gifted. Guess what? Her lawyer is fighting tooth and nail to make it a 50-50 split. My attorney told me at the end of the day"it's up to the judge".

Had my Haitain "Nympho" wife over for the third night in a row and she got 5 leches out of me between 10 PM and Noon today. I think I need to get my testerone levels checked as I might need treatment for high T. Went down to the beach and there were lots of chicas on the crawl looking for their next victims. Took a kayak out for an hour and got a good upper body workout in Sosua Bay. The water was very nice and clear. Upon returning from the beach I ran into the Chiccaron vendor and bought 50 pesos worth of pork meat with skin on it (Carnitas in Mexico) which was very tasty which I topped off with some Good and Plenty and Hot Tamale candy. I need to replenish my leche supply as I have a commitment tomorrow with one of my other wives. Planning on taking her to Santiago on Monday to spend the night and go to the movies. Tomorrow morning I plan on hitting the waves at Playa Encuentro before having the wife come. Just another day in paradise here.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1577328]Last date with an AW (American Woman) I went on was in April. It was a dinner date and the bill came out to damn near $70 dollars. When the check came she looked at me all starry-eyed like "you know the deal. " I went ahead and paid the entire bill and chalked it up to the game, plus I had no intention of calling her after that date (it was a case of "you looked hotter on the internet".

Funny thing was how during the date she talked about how on some of her previous dates with other guys the bill would come out to around $300-$400 dollars.

And bravo to you Mr. E! "Old Fashioned" my ass, LOL. I love your responses to her.

She spelled first "fist", btw.

Found this earlier today. Probably should post it in the Opinions American Women thread. The comments section of the article is the best part:

[B]8 reasons why New York women cant get a husband[/B]

[URL]http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/princeton-mom-heres-why-new-york-women-cant-get-a-husband/[/URL][/QUOTE]The look "you know the deal" used to mean that she had to pony up if she ordered from the fuck side of the menu. A fair exchange was no highway robbery. These barter rules used to be well understood.