American Politics

Despite Donald Trump's constant and unrelenting lying spree on these issues, the rate of inflation is higher now under Trump than it was under Biden, the price of groceries god I'm glad Trump invented that word is higher now under Trump than it was under Biden, jobs creation is crap under Trump after soaring to historic highs under Biden, the clear majority of Americans think the economy is worse now under Trump than it was under Biden and they justifiably blame this crap economy on Trump, not Biden:

[B]Sellers are taking homes off the market at the fastest pace in nearly a decade.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/25/home-sellers-delisting-redfin.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Weak buyer demand, weakening home prices and overall uncertainty in the economy are combining to make home sellers change their minds and step out of the market.

Close to 85,000 U.S. sellers took their homes off the market in September, up 28% from September 2024 and the highest level for that month in eight years, according to Redfin. [/QUOTE][B]Fact check: Trumps lying spree about inflation[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/10/politics/inflation-trump-fact-check[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump went on a lying spree about inflation last week.

Grocery prices. Gas prices. Prescription drug prices. Overall prices. Over just three days, Trump made false claims about all of them.[/QUOTE][B]Higher costs weigh on Americans' holiday shopping plans this year: CNBC survey.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/28/black-friday-holiday-shopping-prices-spending-cutbacks.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Many Americans feel pinched by an uneven economy and higher costs in particular, and it will negatively influence planned shopping habits this holiday season, according to the annual CNBC|SurveyMonkey 2025 Small Business Saturday Survey.

80 percent of Americans think items are more expensive this year.

Four in ten plan to spend less this year as a result, with the biggest cutbacks planned in gifts for others.[/QUOTE][B]Donald Trump Worse on Economy Than Joe BidenFox News Poll[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-worse-on-economy-than-joe-biden-fox-news-poll-11080612[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump's standing on the economy has taken a hit, according to a new Fox News poll that finds voters now rate him less favorably on the issue than President Joe Biden.[/QUOTE]The bad news is doubling and tripling down on already crap Repub economic, tariff, tax and immigration policy as Trump most certainly intends to do only means these crap conditions are destined to get much worse between now and when a Dem Congress and then a Dem President steps in to produce yet another in their uninterrupted Great Dem Recoveries from yet another historic Great Repub Economic and National Security Downturn. And this one promises to be a whopper.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3039634]Despite Donald Trump's constant and unrelenting lying spree on these issues, the rate of inflation is higher now under Trump than it was under Biden, the price of groceries god I'm glad Trump invented that word is higher now under Trump than it was under Biden, jobs creation is crap under Trump after soaring to historic highs under Biden, the clear majority of Americans think the economy is worse now under Trump than it was under Biden and they justifiably blame this crap economy on Trump, not Biden:

[B]Sellers are taking homes off the market at the fastest pace in nearly a decade.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/25/home-sellers-delisting-redfin.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[B]Fact check: Trumps lying spree about inflation[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/10/politics/inflation-trump-fact-check[/URL]

[B]Higher costs weigh on Americans' holiday shopping plans this year: CNBC survey.[/B].[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQCoh_bNFy0[/URL]

The world's largest Supercharger station in Lost Hills, California, has opened with a 164-stall facility powered by an 11 MW solar farm, 10 Megapack batteries and is virtually off-grid and self sufficient.

[B]Its the Biggest Supercharger Station Ever—And It's Powered By Solar And Batteries,[/B] Nov 25,2025. [URL]https://insideevs.com/news/780042/tesla-biggest-supercharger-solar-powered-megapack-storage/[/URL]

No [NOPARSE]dirty and polluting fossil fuels...NO PROBLEM! No CO2 smoke induced belching oil, gasoline, petrol or ethanol tankers to refill...NO PROBLEM! Just CLEAN electricity, produced on site, from it's 11 MW solar farm. What could be simpler or more [/NOPARSE]natural?

This power charging station, represents a replicable blueprint for future EV infrastructure, especially in areas with limited grid capacity. It is significant shift in how large-scale EVs infrastructures (for cars and trucks) can be deployed, as self-sustaining energy centers.

No doubt, Europe and The Global South is watching, as another shinning example of how to wean themselves off toxic petrostate fossil fuels.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3039243]They look like women they talk like women etc etc etc.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/11/25/sen-ruben-gallego-trashes-own-party-in-leaked-texts-dem-men-look-like-women/[/URL]

The DNC has been neutered aka feminized Cucks / simps.[/QUOTE]Again with the culture wars, bullshit? [B]What the fuck has LOOKS got to do with governing?[/B] ONLY under the pathetic leadership of your MAGA Fuhrer, would governing and running the country, need to look like one of his USA Beauty Pageants, where he perversely goes backstage, to accost, abuse and fondle the constants.

I guess if you, Repub suckers, were planning to fuck your local state Senator (s), then perhaps, how a Senator looks to matter, to y'all.

All Dems require from their Senators, is the ability for good stewardship, governing well and be very competent at their jobs.

But it is interestingly funny to note, it's yet another dumbass culture war post that Republicans continually focus on and not the task of governing the country, with a pedo sympathizer to Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxell.

BTW, I'm still waiting for Repubs to recycle and revive their, infamous "Purple Dinosaur" culture wars!

When what is happening inside USA is only Americans fault, when they already knew about dangerous, shameful, robber Trump, but I really wish poor, courageous Ukrainians won t be fucked by this old crazy who love so much to suck and swallow criminal Putin. USA being led by Russia, after being defeated by China, IBM and Motorola being Chinese.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3039725]Again with the culture wars, bullshit? [B]What the fuck has LOOKS got to do with governing?[/B] ONLY under the pathetic leadership of your MAGA Fuhrer, would governing and running the country, need to look like one of his USA Beauty Pageants, where he perversely goes backstage, to accost, abuse and fondle the constants.

I guess if you, Repub suckers, were planning to fuck your local state Senator (s), then perhaps, how a Senator looks to matter, to y'all.

All Dems require from their Senators, is the ability for good stewardship, governing well and be very competent at their jobs.

But it is interestingly funny to note, it's yet another dumbass culture war post that Republicans continually focus on and not the task of governing the country, with a pedo sympathizer to Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxell.

BTW, I'm still waiting for Repubs to recycle and revive their, infamous "Purple Dinosaur" culture wars![/QUOTE]Did Epstein files topple Trump Presidency yet? Still waiting LOL. What's the next scam Dems will come up with.

Thankfully, there are other credible sources for an October 2025 Trump Economy Jobs Report aside from the government-provided data that no Republican president in 100 years has cherished being reported, least of all disastrous Republican so-called president Donald Trump.

Oh, look! It's another "Worst since a previous Repub president's time" disastrous report:

[B]US layoffs for October surge to two-decade high, Challenger data shows.
Nov. 7, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/layoffs-us-october-surge-two-decade-high-challenger-data-shows-2025-11-06/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Nov 6 (Reuters) - U.S.-based employers cut more than 150,000 jobs in October, marking [b]the biggest reduction for the month in more than 20 years[/b], a report by Challenger, Gray & Christmas said on Thursday as industries adopt AI-driven changes and intensify cost cuts.
Tech firms led the job cuts in the private sector, followed by retailers and the services sector, the global outplacement company said.

Cost-cutting was the top reason for the layoffs in October, followed by artificial intelligence, while "DOGE Impact" was the leading reason for job cuts in 2025.

[B]The layoffs in October surged 175% from a year ago to 153,074. [/b]From the start of the year to October end, [b]employers have announced 1,099,500 job cuts, a 65% rise from 664,839 in the same time period last year.[/b]
So far this year, [b]job cuts are at the highest level since 2020 [/b]when 2,304,755 cuts were announced through October.[/QUOTE]Yep. "Worst" since GW Bush and Trump, all on one report. And now Trump can crow / lie about how terrible Biden's results were after his layoffs are 175% higher than the far, far superior jobs numbers under Biden.

Meanwhile, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will continue to spin how much better Repubs are at "handling the economy" than Dems as we move into an election year. Lolol.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3039734]When what is happening inside USA is only Americans fault, when they already knew about dangerous, shameful, robber Trump, but I really wish poor, courageous Ukrainians won t be fucked by this old crazy who love so much to suck and swallow criminal Putin. USA being led by Russia, after being defeated by China, IBM and Motorola being Chinese.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for Ukraine, versus USA robbers and sucking Putin, no one can give a part of Ukraine, according to Ukrainian constitution, except citizens vote. And Europe try more to help Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3040077]Fortunately for Ukraine, versus USA robbers and sucking Putin, no one can give a part of Ukraine, according to Ukrainian constitution, except citizens vote. And Europe try more to help Ukraine.[/QUOTE]I'm with you man. And I apologize for the worthless cunts in our government that won't step up. Sadly, we have a bunch of Putin cocksuckers running things.

[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3040110]I'm with you man. And I apologize for the worthless cunts in our government that won't step up. Sadly, we have a bunch of Putin cocksuckers running things.[/QUOTE]What should those worthless cunts do about it? What is the solution? Force Americans and European Union into war? Keep spending our tax dollars on a war that isn't our fight?

WTF are the people at Costco trying to pull? As everyone who believes whatever Trump says knows full well, [I]China, Canada. Mexico, Brazil, India, etc[/I] are paying America Trillions of Dollars every time Americans buy those imported goods. The money comes "flowing into" America from those other countries. Nobody in America pays Trump's American import taxes!

Come on, everybody. Trump wouldn't continue to tell the American Working Men and Women Consumers that practically every day if it wasn't true.

Thank god, too. Because if Costco wins this lawsuit, then the American Taxpayers will have to pay big money to Costco!

[B]Costco sues for Trump tariff refunds before Supreme Court rules if they're illegal[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/01/costco-sues-trump-tariffs-trade-supreme-court.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3040258]WTF are the people at Costco trying to pull? As everyone who believes whatever Trump says knows full well, [I]China, Canada. Mexico, Brazil, India, etc[/I] are paying America Trillions of Dollars every time Americans buy those imported goods. The money comes "flowing into" America from those other countries. Nobody in America pays Trump's American import taxes!

Come on, everybody. Trump wouldn't continue to tell the American Working Men and Women Consumers that practically every day if it wasn't true.

Thank god, too. Because if Costco wins this lawsuit, then the American Taxpayers will have to pay big money to Costco!

[B]Costco sues for Trump tariff refunds before Supreme Court rules if they're illegal[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/01/costco-sues-trump-tariffs-trade-supreme-court.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/12/02/noem-flags-sweeping-travel-ban-on-countries-dumping-killers-leeches-and-entitlement-junkies-on-u-s/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3040309][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/12/02/noem-flags-sweeping-travel-ban-on-countries-dumping-killers-leeches-and-entitlement-junkies-on-u-s/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]"I just met with the President. I am recommending a full travel ban on every damn country thats been flooding our nation with killers, leeches, and entitlement junkies, Noem wrote on social media site X.[/QUOTE]If Trump imposes a full travel ban on the USA States flooding America with killers, leeches and entitlement junkies that will be the end of Red State tourists traveling to Thailand.

I would support that.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3039784]Did Epstein files topple Trump Presidency yet? Still waiting LOL. What's the next scam Dems will come up with.[/QUOTE]Hilarious. , as the latest headlines, speak volumes and say it loud and clear [I]..."How LOW can you go?"[/I][NOPARSE] and it's only been 10 months [i](kkkk!).[/i][/NOPARSE] [B]Trump's Approval Rating Drops to 36%, New Second-Term Low,[/B] November 28,2025 [URL]https://news.gallup.com/poll/699221/trump-approval-rating-drops-new-second-term-low.aspx[/URL].

Yet [NOPARSE] another LAME DUCK MAGA Fuhrer president 2.0! You just got to love the Epstein Pedo Sex Files, quietly doing it's [/NOPARSE]magic!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3040355]If Trump imposes a full travel ban on the USA States flooding America with killers, leeches and entitlement junkies that will be the end of Red State tourists traveling to Thailand.

I would support that.[/QUOTE]Just move near Scumbag Birdbrain Kamala, you'll fit right in lololol I'm guessing you wouldn't last long.

The only white guy is why you left, never to return in the first place.

[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3040110]I'm with you man. And I apologize for the worthless cunts in our government that won't step up. Sadly, we have a bunch of Putin cocksuckers running things.[/QUOTE]Despite long time deep sucking, liar Putin really makes fun of MAGA with the too old senile.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3040258]WTF are the people at Costco trying to pull? As everyone who believes whatever Trump says knows full well, [I]China, Canada. Mexico, Brazil, India, etc[/I] are paying America Trillions of Dollars every time Americans buy those imported goods. The money comes "flowing into" America from those other countries. Nobody in America pays Trump's American import taxes!

Come on, everybody. Trump wouldn't continue to tell the American Working Men and Women Consumers that practically every day if it wasn't true.

Thank god, too. Because if Costco wins this lawsuit, then the American Taxpayers will have to pay big money to Costco!

[B]Costco sues for Trump tariff refunds before Supreme Court rules if they're illegal[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/01/costco-sues-trump-tariffs-trade-supreme-court.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]But I still go in there with a family member once in a while and guess what its customer base is? 95% CCP fans they love that garbage made in the land of Xi.

Go in the huge lot and 99% cars are made in the land of Xi they hate America and Americans just like you.

They have zero love for America I say deport every single one of them too even the ones shit out here!!

I'm almost 60 and get around the world and the USA and have never in my life seen a CCP fan drive an American car?

They talk about their love for the country of their ancestors even if they were shit out here, but never love for USA.

I wish Pete Hegseth would nuke Shanghai and Beijing Hong Kong off the map already.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3040389]But I still go in there with a family member once in a while and guess what its customer base is? 95% CCP fans they love that garbage made in the land of Xi.

Go in the huge lot and 99% cars are made in the land of Xi they hate America and Americans just like you.

They have zero love for America I say deport every single one of them too even the ones shit out here!!

I'm almost 60 and get around the world and the USA and have never in my life seen a CCP fan drive an American car?

They talk about their love for the country of their ancestors even if they were shit out here, but never love for USA.

I wish Pete Hegseth would nuke Shanghai and Beijing Hong Kong off the map already.[/QUOTE]You proudly announce you don't contribute to American Commerce but the Chinese who come to America do contribute to it.

So then you proudly announce that you spend your time and money traveling outside of America to contribute to other countries' commerce.

Clearly, those Chinese are demonstrating more "love" for America and what it has to offer, certainly contribute more value to America than some Trump-supporting MAGA deadbeat who only pops into Costco to eat the free food samples.

Hell, even I probably buy more items from USA Amazon and contribute more positive value to the country than whiny MAGA leeches and entitlement junkie Red Staters.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3040389]But I still go in there with a family member once in a while and guess what its customer base is? 95% CCP fans they love that garbage made in the land of Xi.

Go in the huge lot and 99% cars are made in the land of Xi they hate America and Americans just like you.

They have zero love for America I say deport every single one of them too even the ones shit out here!!

I'm almost 60 and get around the world and the USA and have never in my life seen a CCP fan drive an American car?

They talk about their love for the country of their ancestors even if they were shit out here, but never love for USA.

I wish Pete Hegseth would nuke Shanghai and Beijing Hong Kong off the map already.[/QUOTE]'But I still go in there with a family ... '

Its the economy stupid, if 95% of things in america would be made in america you would had to make drastic change into your lifestyle based on consomation or allow slavery after kicking out all your latin cheap labour.

'Go in the huge lot and ... '.

First I think most people can respect what usa made when its good thing, but people arent blind and the country also made huge mystak and terrible thing all over the world like all great power made into manking history. Xi people are also brain washed by the propaganda, it should open your eyes and look at what is happning now in usa because its the model trump is setting up currently in usa.

'They have zero love...'

Thes speech about loving usa is pure bullshit used by trump to play with maga weak mind. Why is so many people believe him when he is talking about love, the dude is a sociopath, he probably can't love someone else then himself. The concept of loving a foreign country is absurd and only kids can believe in that without being taged as stupid. They is no love in international affair but only cold political and economical decision. BTW your country foundation had been built by slave like current russia had be built by the prisonner of the goulag. The only diffenece into the model was that the north american slaves was black exploited by private corporation and the prisonner of the gulag was russia exploited by govenmental jail syustem.

'I'm almost 60 and ...?

You clearly need so economical teaching, do you have any idea about their wage? The middle and the poor class can't even dream about buying an american car in russia and China, the reason why there still american car is because the car from foreign country are taxed and there is quotas since the 80's. Curent chinese car are tarifes 100% in Canada and the japanese car have quota to protect the north american car industry. Your car industry cant even been competive in your richest and closest neighbor with transport fees who are almost of 0$(+truck gaz) because of the ACEUM while the competition is selling car after thousand of mile floated on shipping boat way more expensive then truck. The north american car industry is not competitive since asian country began to product car, america never had this problem with russian car like lada, but the asian car are far superior in terms of quality and they cost 1/4 of the price of an american car. The curent north american model is denying its own capitalist ideology to protect an industry who should had drasticaly evolved or died 50 years ago.

'They talk about their love for the country ...'

They have 0 freedom of speech, most are under very aggresive autocratic propaganda and can't travel outside of their country. They have no clear idea about what the wolrd is.

'I wish Pete Hegseth ...'

I bet you voted trump and you still proud of it and convinced that he his going to make you a richest person. Because that's what billionnaire are doing in politics, they are making other people richer, right? nuking the world as solution .. did you just get a bad news from your physician to hope seeing our beautifull world end under a nuclear fallout?

But deadbeat MAGA Repubs voting for other deadbeat Repub MAGAs, especially Trump, has produced even more dire consequences for America:

[B]Private payrolls unexpectedly fell by 32,000 in November, ADP reports[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/03/adp-jobs-report-november-2025-private-payrolls-unexpectedly-fell-by-32000-.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The U.S. labor market slowdown intensified in November as private companies cut 32,000 workers, with small businesses hit the hardest, payrolls processing firm ADP reported Wednesday.

With worries intensifying over the domestic jobs picture, ADP indicated the issues were worse than anticipated. The payrolls decline marked a sharp step down from October, which saw an upwardly revised gain of 47,000 positions, and was well below the Dow Jones consensus estimate from economists for an increase of 40,000.
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The rate of pay also slowed, with workers staying in their jobs seeing a 4.4% year-over-year increase, down 0.1 percentage point from October.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile, MAGAs are all wet and excited about the fact that Trump's utterly predictable Repub economic slowdown has caused the average price of a gallon of regular gas be a whole 4 cents less than it was a year ago under Biden.

However, that was when the rate of inflation and the prices of commonly bought goods overall were steadily declining rather than steadily increasing as they have been this year.

Oh well. We tried.

FAFO.

Chinese tourists who travel to America and buy things are more positive and beneficial for America than anyone who could have but did not vote for Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Just to name a few.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3040439]You proudly announce you don't contribute to American Commerce but the Chinese who come to America do contribute to it.

So then you proudly announce that you spend your time and money traveling outside of America to contribute to other countries' commerce.

Clearly, those Chinese are demonstrating more "love" for America and what it has to offer, certainly contribute more value to America than some Trump-supporting MAGA deadbeat who only pops into Costco to eat the free food samples.

Hell, even I probably buy more items from USA Amazon and contribute more positive value to the country than whiny MAGA leeches and entitlement junkie Red Staters.[/QUOTE]BTW when I travel I always fly with American carriers as my #1 choice 99% of the time.

Stay in American chain hotels as my #1 choose whenever possible.

And eat American food at American chains 24/7 Hooters BK Pizza Hut Dominos McDs KFC Subway Sabarro Wendys etc etc etc.

If it wasn't for American food I would starve to death before eating their filthy slop they call food.

With a couple exceptions namely Lima and Moscow.

I love the USA with all my Heart, I'm not a traitor like you.

I won't bother replying to each lie you wrote in the post above you can't even.

Keep the debate to facts, you hate the Truth so you resort to lame ass lies.

To muddy the issues, like a desperate 12 yo girl.

May all the haters of the USA burn in hell!

God Bless America and Our Lord and Savior!

Why am I not shocked the MAGA Fuhrer is set to pardon [U]YET ANOTHER[/U], drug kingpin? The joke sitting in the WH, with the red MAGA cap proves once again, he cares very little for the drugs that are responsible for killing Americans.

[B]The Ex-President Whom Trump Plans to Pardon Flooded America With Cocaine,[/B] November 29,2025 [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/nyregion/honduras-hernandez-drug-trafficking.html[/URL].

You know, for all the knucklehead talk and rhetoric about immigrants [NOPARSE] trafficking drugs, which 96% of the time, is all lies, a ruse, subterfuge or a red herring, meant to ply the gullible MAGA suckers with enough "red meat" (like low-hanging fruit), only designed, to keep them sedated or tranquilized, long enough to pick their pockets, as is the case with the latest pretext of threats of a war on drugs with Venezuela.

So after some 40+ years of right-wing drug wars and so called, "Crusade on Drugs", from Reagan to the MAGA Fuhrer, and STILL Repubs have learnt nothing. Yes after 40+ years of being suckered and bamboozled into thinking the proverbial drug boogeyman, are the low-level foot soldiers and immigrant scapegoats, while their Fuhrer pardons the very drug kingpins, barons and overlords, responsible for flooding America with 500 tons of illegal[/NOPARSE] drugs.

But who can blame them, when it's [B]the perfect "red meat" bait,[/B] for their gullible base, to think that Repubs are [B]"Tough On Crime".[/B] Look over here while we (Hegseth and MAGA idiots), brag about blowing up a few low level foot soldiers and presumed traffickers (or no doubt likely to be innocent civilians), but whatever you do, don't look over here, where the MAGA Fuhrer, pardons the drug kingpins, bombarding and flooding America with 500 tons of cocaine.

Once again, your MAGA Fuhrer, has made you MAGA suckers, look like complete and utter dolts, dumbasses and imbeciles, when you crow about a few immigrants and low level drug busts, when the real culprits are being pardoned by your Fuhrer for [B]flooding, poisoning and killing Americas with 500 tons of cocaine.[/B].

But hey, who cares if Americas are getting drugged up and dying from fentanyl, cocaine or heroine, as long as the MAGA Fuhrer is pardoning drug kingpins and criminals, because according to some MAGA suckers, here, [I]"...as long as it puts money in peoples pocket (namely the Fuhrer and his billionaire buddies)...",[/I] yeah who cares?

Who in their right mind did not know a vote for anyone other than Kamala Harris would produce this result instead of the utter and total Bullshit campaign promises made by a Repub, especially by lifelong career conman Donald Trump?

Do I even need to highlight the "Worst since a previous Repub administration" references and negative Repub policy and stewardship results vs the historically positive Dem administration policy and stewardship results reported here that have also been as predictable as night following day for the past 100 years or so?

Yeah, I probably do need to do that:

[B]Layoff announcements top 1.1 million in 2025, the highest since 2020.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/04/layoff-announcements-this-year-top-1point1-million-the-most-since-2020-when-pandemic-hit-challenger-says.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Announced job cuts from U.S. employers moved further ahead of 1 million for the year in November as corporate restructuring, artificial intelligence and tariffs have helped pare job rolls, consulting firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported Thursday.

The firm said layoff plans totaled 71,321 in November, a step down from the massive cuts announced in October but still enough to bring the 2025 total up to 1.17 million. [B]That total is 54% higher than the same 11-month period a year ago and the highest level since 2020, when the Covid pandemic rocked the global economy.[/b]
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Hiring prospects have been dim this year as well, according to the Challenger report. Employers have announced 497,151 planned hires, [b]off 35% from the same point in 2024.[/b][/QUOTE]

We have same kind of robber in France than Trump robbed USA and they are friends. Here is our Bernard Arnault who started like Musk with our money in France.

Have you ever seen, such a spineless, cowardly coward and total fuck up, as Pete "Double Tap" Hegseth?

[B]Pentagon's Signalgate review finds Pete Hegseth violated military regulations,[/B] December 03,2025. [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pentagons-signalgate-review-finds-pete-hegseth-violated-military-regul-rcna247023[/URL]

If it wasn't clear from Signalgate, what at total and complete idiot, inept fool and what a danger to national security, he was and has become, then the latest "double tap" scandal, will no doubt be no different. Again, you have to wonder if Repubs, have learnt anything from any one of his many previous blunders?

But really, who needs military enemies and foes, like Russia and China, when you've got incompetent idiots like Hegseth, ruining, corrupting and turning the USA Military into a national joke.

[U]The Quintessential MAGA DEI Hire![/U]

Pete [NOPARSE]"Double Tap" Hegseth, will remain the ultimate, CLASSIC prime example, of the inept white male privileged MAGA DEI hire, failing upwards and just the most hilarious government MAGA DEI hire, ever!

Only in the QAnon/MAGA/Repub party can you FAIL [/NOPARSE]upwards!

When senile orange never deserved peace Nobel award, when only about money for him, but no care about people, but he received award from FIFA led by same gangster than him, Infantino. Gangsters, same than criminals, are friends.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3040612]Who in their right mind did not know a vote for anyone other than Kamala Harris would produce this result instead of the utter and total Bullshit campaign promises made by a Repub, especially by lifelong career conman Donald Trump?

Do I even need to highlight the "Worst since a previous Repub administration" references and negative Repub policy and stewardship results vs the historically positive Dem administration policy and stewardship results reported here that have also been as predictable as night following day for the past 100 years or so?

Yeah, I probably do need to do that:

[B]Layoff announcements top 1.1 million in 2025, the highest since 2020.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/04/layoff-announcements-this-year-top-1point1-million-the-most-since-2020-when-pandemic-hit-challenger-says.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/12/07/rosie-odonnells-therapist-told-her-to-ignore-trump-for-two-days-she-only-lasted-two-hours/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3040531]BTW when I travel I always fly with American carriers as my #1 choice 99% of the time.

Stay in American chain hotels as my #1 choose whenever possible.

And eat American food at American chains 24/7 Hooters BK Pizza Hut Dominos McDs KFC Subway Sabarro Wendys etc etc etc.

If it wasn't for American food I would starve to death before eating their filthy slop they call food.

With a couple exceptions namely Lima and Moscow.

I love the USA with all my Heart, I'm not a traitor like you.

I won't bother replying to each lie you wrote in the post above you can't even.

Keep the debate to facts, you hate the Truth so you resort to lame ass lies.[/QUOTE]Boing don't seem much safe anymore, fall for quality. American foods are so low quality, making so many obese. As far I know, USA are melting pot of foreigners and many past slaves, like Mickael Jordan or Jackson, or Lebron James, or Louis Armstrong roots, when they killed Indians to rob lands. Built on robbery, Trump perfectly understood this.

The world of USA Agriculture customers is watching to see just how stupid American farmers will prove themselves to be after already proving themselves to be the dumbest Repub MAGA hillbillies in history by not voting for the Dem candidate and voting for Repub Trump not once, not twice but an astonishingly stupid three times.

Lololol:

[B]Trump announces $12 billion aid package for farmers caught up in trade war[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/08/trump-farmer-aid-trade-tariffs-china.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump announced a $12 billion aid package for U.S. farmers, described as bridge payments to smooth the transition away from Biden-era economic policies.

Some in Americas agriculture industry say they are suffering as a result of Trumps wide-ranging trade war especially due to conflicts with China, a major U.S. customer.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins joined Trump for the announcement.

President Donald Trump announced Monday that his administration is doling out a $12 billion aid package to farmers who have been squeezed by a trade war between the U.S. and its top economic partners.

The funds will come from U.S. tariff revenues, Trump said during a roundtable event at the White House.
[/QUOTE]Are American farmers as blitheringly ignorant about Real News and as blitheringly stupid about simple math as Donald we're going to reduce drug prices by 1,500% Trump and his Numbskull Cabinet Members obviously assume they are?

Inquiring minds around the world want to know. Lololol. And I suppose we will all find out at the 2026 Midterm Elections.

Trump and his trash administration are a complete Joke! The economy is the worse it has ever been and now wants war with Venezuela all his policies have failed dude is a complete Loser.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3041174]The world of USA Agriculture customers is watching to see just how stupid American farmers will prove themselves to be after already proving themselves to be the dumbest Repub MAGA hillbillies in history by not voting for the Dem candidate and voting for Repub Trump not once, not twice but an astonishingly stupid three times.

Lololol:

[B]Trump announces $12 billion aid package for farmers caught up in trade war[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/08/trump-farmer-aid-trade-tariffs-china.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Are American farmers as blitheringly ignorant about Real News and as blitheringly stupid about simple math as Donald we're going to reduce drug prices by 1,500% Trump and his Numbskull Cabinet Members obviously assume they are?

Inquiring minds around the world want to know. Lololol. And I suppose we will all find out at the 2026 Midterm Elections.[/QUOTE]Yet another group of suckers, voting against their own best interest. Somehow, I don't think they've learnt anything.

In his first term it was $28 billion in aid to bailout farmers, for his fail economic polices against China, which by the way, disproportionately benefited corporate farms, rather than small family farms, is likely to be no different this time around.

The bulk of bailout of tariff and taxpayers dollars, will again, no doubt, be given to welfare RED STATES farmers, where once again, Big Agro will have the opportunity to contributed $196 million to Republican campaign, in 2026,2028 elections, like they did in 2023-2024.

China is [NOPARSE]quietly destroying, any long-term Western LNG/Hydrogen/Diesel ambitions, of being a major supplier to the Global South, for fueling and supplying heavy & light duty trucks, as new energy and electric Heavy & Light duty truck sales [/NOPARSE]surge.

Sales of new energy heavy trucks in China surged by 175% (yoy) in the first half of 2025, reaching around 76,100 units and capturing a significant portion (about 22-25%) of the new heavy truck sales market, with analysts estimating, sales may reach as much as 60% by early 2026. [URL]https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/soaring-electric-truck-sales-deal-new-blow-diesel-use-china-2025-07-11/[/URL].

[B]Los Angeles Times China's diesel trucks are shifting to electric,[/B] Nov 27,2025. [URL]https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-11-27/chinas-diesel-trucks-are-shifting-to-electric-that-could-change-global-lng-diesel-demand[/URL].

While [NOPARSE]back in the U.S. the very slow adaption of BEV Trucks, is catching on as one of the biggest short and long haul freight carriers DHL, is set to buy a several more Tesla Semi-Trucks to add to its fleet, does signal a step in the right direction, but again just like the lag in adaption in EVs, China set to leap-frog the west in advancements with better, more efficient and cleaner fuel cost-savings BEV Trucks. [/NOPARSE][B]DHL takes delivery of its first Tesla Semi electric truck, says more to come next year,[/B] Dec 8th, 2025. [URL]https://electrek.co/2025/12/08/dhl-takes-tesla-semi-electric-truck/[/URL].

But is west, just little too late, to the game? Once again European companies, like Mercedes Daimlerchrysler Trucks, are gobsmacked at the technological advancements of Chinese electric vehicle (BEV) trucks and facing intense competitive pressure from the rapid growth, which is leading to extreme revised forecasts for diesel demand, as the ROI on BEV trucks, is significantly better, saving companies ten's of thousands of dollars per truck, in efficiencies and fueling.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3040715]Have you ever seen, such a spineless, cowardly coward and total fuck up, as Pete "Double Tap" Hegseth?

[B]Pentagon's Signalgate review finds Pete Hegseth violated military regulations,[/B] December 03,2025. [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pentagons-signalgate-review-finds-pete-hegseth-violated-military-regul-rcna247023[/URL]

If it wasn't clear from Signalgate, what at total and complete idiot, inept fool and what a danger to national security, he was and has become, then the latest "double tap" scandal, will no doubt be no different. Again, you have to wonder if Repubs, have learnt anything from any one of his many previous blunders?

But really, who needs military enemies and foes, like Russia and China, when you've got incompetent idiots like Hegseth, ruining, corrupting and turning the USA Military into a national joke.

[U]The Quintessential MAGA DEI Hire![/U]

Pete [NOPARSE]"Double Tap" Hegseth, will remain the ultimate, CLASSIC prime example, of the inept white male privileged MAGA DEI hire, failing upwards and just the most hilarious government MAGA DEI hire, ever!

Only in the QAnon/MAGA/Repub party can you FAIL [/NOPARSE]upwards![/QUOTE]You really think anyone with half a brain cares they killed two narco terrorists smuggling in drugs which will kill hundreds or even thousands of Americans? People really need to stop just trying to win elections and focus on protecting Americans, not even Americcans, just protecting humans from deadly drugs in general.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3041296]Trump and his trash administration are a complete Joke! The economy is the worse it has ever been and now wants war with Venezuela all his policies have failed dude is a complete Loser.[/QUOTE]Totally understand your strong frustration with the current inept administration, and their bad domestic and foreign policies, not too mention a disastrous economic and jobs record. It's so bad, the MAGA Fuhrer and his cronies, don't even want to report the [NOPARSE]numbers of how bad it is.

Just look at the recent approval ratings, where Americans have the president, the party, the economy ...etc,[/NOPARSE] [B]at all-time historical lows![/B]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041405]Totally understand your strong frustration with the current inept administration, and their bad domestic and foreign policies, not too mention a disastrous economic and jobs record. It's so bad, the MAGA Fuhrer and his cronies, don't even want to report the [NOPARSE]numbers of how bad it is.

Just look at the recent approval ratings, where Americans have the president, the party, the economy ...etc,[/NOPARSE] [B]at all-time historical lows![/B][/QUOTE]My take of approval ratings, only shows that 30-36% of Americans are biased uneducated idiots.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041401]You really think anyone with half a brain cares they killed two narco terrorists smuggling in drugs which will kill hundreds or even thousands of Americans? People really need to stop just trying to win elections and focus on protecting Americans, not even Americcans, just protecting humans from deadly drugs in general.[/QUOTE]I guess that would be the half-witted, half-brain gullible MAGA Americans, that favor dictators and authoritarian rule of law and don't wish to see [B]due process[/B].

[B]Trumps boat strikes appear quite unpopular, as Americans again support due process,[/B] Nov 14,2025 [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/14/politics/boat-strikes-trump-due-process-polling[/URL] Most Americans (approx. 64%) do not approve, of the boat strikes, especially the illegal practice of criminal "double tap" war crime strikes.

As always, yet another baseless opinion. Most Americans want the rule of law to be obeyed, facts, evidence and due process, and NOT the lying words of a wannabe dictator or corrupt admin.

[U]MAGA's Hilarious Idea of "Protecting" Americans:[/U]

And don't make me laugh, especially about protecting Americans from deadly drugs and drug traffickers. [NOPARSE]But I guess you didn't get the memo? ... The one where your [/NOPARSE]MAGA Fuhrer, [B]pardoned yet another drug criminal[/B] who poisoned, dumped, drugged and killed Americans with 500 tons of cocaine.

Your MAGA Fuhrer's hypocrisy on street-level drug dealers and foot-soldiers boat strikes to "protect" Americans, while pardoning drug kingpins, is hilarious and only serves as pure political cannon fodder for you MAGA suckers, that want to believe those boat strikes are even about protecting Americans from drugs, when fentanyl (killing most Americans) isn't primarily produced out of the Caribbean.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041400]China is [NOPARSE]quietly destroying, any long-term Western LNG/Hydrogen/Diesel ambitions, of being a major supplier to the Global South, for fueling and supplying heavy & light duty trucks, as new energy and electric Heavy & Light duty truck sales [/NOPARSE]surge.

Sales of new energy heavy trucks in China surged by 175% (yoy) in the first half of 2025, reaching around 76,100 units and capturing a significant portion (about 22-25%) of the new heavy truck sales market, with analysts estimating, sales may reach as much as 60% by early 2026. [URL]https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/soaring-electric-truck-sales-deal-new-blow-diesel-use-china-2025-07-11/[/URL].

[B]Los Angeles Times China's diesel trucks are shifting to electric,[/B] Nov 27,2025. [URL]https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-11-27/chinas-diesel-trucks-are-shifting-to-electric-that-could-change-global-lng-diesel-demand[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Sigh! Man, you still do not get it. First off, Bill Gates has just backed off the global warming climate change fiasco. Now that the silicon valley companies need massive power with their AI ventures, it is amazing how the end of the world gloom and doom climate change crap is off the table. Only Algore is still singing that song. Well, Algore and you.

The funny part is that I was looking at a RV and the manufacturer was like "Only set the temperature 20 degrees lower than it is outside or your pipes will freeze". I was like WTF? Oh no, I am going to figure out how to put in a system where I can get 65 degrees inside when it is 100 outside. So I needed not one but two AC units. RV manufacturers now let you put in up to 4 batteries in the typical well for batteries. The most powerful batteries that fit the slot are 12 volts 165 ah. That will run one AC all night. It can be charged via an alternator so just running the RV will charge the battery with a generator as a back up.

With the second AC, to run this on electricity, I would buy a power station, hook up solar panels to it, and give it two added batteries. The RVs I was looking at have a weight carrying capacity between 600 and 2000 pounds. Here is the funny part. The six batteries and the power station weigh about a 1,000 pounds. The cost for this setup is about $10,000 as well. Even with that, I still need to plug into shore power, which is electricity produced mostly with fossil fuels, and have a generator as back up.

Or I can buy a 5500 watt generator that weighs 200 pounds and burn $5 of fuel per night. In this case, alternative energy makes no sense.

I think it is hilarious that people use the term "off grid" in the RV world. First off, the electric RV is not really a thing because of the battery weight. Being "off grid" means you are using diesel or gasoline to drive to where you are going and the term "off grid" does not refer to using a fossil fuel generator although I see no reason why it matters. I can just see some hipster saying, "I use diesel for driving not power. For that I use the sun. " So what? You are burning a helluva more fuel carrying around a 1,000 pounds in batteries.

The only reason battery powered cars make sense then is because of how heavy the engines are. What makes much more sense is the use of solar power and batteries in a stationary environment.

It is not like there are not applications. China using solar to charge batteries and have cars come in and getting a battery change over 5 minutes versus charging up for an hour makes a helluva lot of sense. If you recall, that idiot Biden wanted to spend billions on charging stations.

The good thing is there have been others disgusted with living with 80 degree inside temps in a RV and there has been an explosion of new AC units. This was a fascinating video on which ACs are available and how much energy they use. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CXCWdxj22Q[/URL]

It is going to be interesting to see if one voltage wins out, if solar will be incorporated into AC on an individual basis. When you start talking power costs like Europe is paying, having a power station with solar and a portable AC unit makes a lot of sense. The applications are endless.

Biden had dementia and stage 4 prostate cancer. Harris was a fucking idiot who could not even financially manage her campaign. She would have been a disaster financially managing the country. Your green electric programs led to California's train to nowhere and the moronic billion dollar charging stations that were never built and are not necessary.

But what about Trump and MAGA? What about them? The answer to your party being stupid is pointing a finger at the other party and saying we are better than them? That is pathetic. It means you do not own your own fuckups.

And I will say this. Now that electricity generation is going to be the key to AI, you Democrats should be pretty damned grateful that there were so many of us Republicans who did not buy into your bullshit climate change theory like Europe did. Electricity is so costly in Europe that AI centers make no sense there. The race to win AI is going to be between China and the USA, the two nations that fought climate change bullshit. It is amazing to see how Europe checked themselves out of the race. Europe was so dumb. Oh, China, you want to build a billion coal plants, and we build none, that is fine with us.

Climate change was not an economic policy. It was a fucking religion. Still, the entire green revolution was not a bad thing. It is time though to check and see what makes economic sense and what does not and leave the patronizing bullshit behind.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3041417]My take of approval ratings, only shows that 30-36% of Americans are biased uneducated idiots.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. If you are a stock broker and your income is based on market gains, Trump has been a Godsend. If you are overweight without insurance and could not afford the $1000 a month for weight loss treatment but can handle paying the $300 Trump got in negotiations with drug companies, Trump has been a Godsend. If you live in Ukraine, you have seen Trump negotiating like crazy to bring peace to a region whereas Biden did not talk to anyone. Under Trump, there are finally reviews being done on vaccines to see if they do any fucking good at all. So being a child under Trump may mean better health for children. Just recently the incredibly stupid Hepatitis be vaccine being given to newborns was voted against.

But what about Hegseth, ETC ETC? What about them? It is fine for you to not like Trump and say he is not your preferred choice for president. That is your opinion, but the problem with you Democrats is that you are so fucking arrogant you think everyone would be better off with a president Harris. It just shows me what arrogant assholes you Democrats really are. A lot of people have done well under Trump. You are just too arrogant and stupid to see that.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041453]I guess that would be the half-witted, half-brain gullible MAGA Americans, that favor dictators and authoritarian rule of law and don't wish to see [B]due process[/B].

[B]Trumps boat strikes appear quite unpopular, as Americans again support due process,[/B] Nov 14,2025 [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/14/politics/boat-strikes-trump-due-process-polling[/URL] Most Americans (approx. 64%) do not approve, of the boat strikes, especially the illegal practice of criminal "double tap" war crime strikes.

As always, yet another baseless opinion. Most Americans want the rule of law to be obeyed, facts, evidence and due process, and NOT the lying words of a wannabe dictator or corrupt admin.

[U]MAGA's Hilarious Idea of "Protecting" Americans:[/U]

And don't make me laugh, especially about protecting Americans from deadly drugs and drug traffickers. [NOPARSE]But I guess you didn't get the memo? ... The one where your [/NOPARSE]MAGA Fuhrer, [B]pardoned yet another drug criminal[/B] who poisoned, dumped, drugged and killed Americans with 500 tons of cocaine.

Your MAGA Fuhrer's hypocrisy on street-level drug dealers and foot-soldiers boat strikes to "protect" Americans, while pardoning drug kingpins, is hilarious and only serves as pure political cannon fodder for you MAGA suckers, that want to believe those boat strikes are even about protecting Americans from drugs, when fentanyl (killing most Americans) isn't primarily produced out of the Caribbean.[/QUOTE]Nope! No one with half a brain gives a shit. Its another kindergarten story time tale told by Dems with no truth to it what so ever. The only people who care are those afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome, like you. Same thing with this fairy tale Dems are trying to spin about a struggling economy LOL. Economy has been absolutely fine. Every measure is completely acceptable. Just because it didn't boom the way it did during his first term doesn't mean it's bad. But the real disgusting lie, is Dems are actually trying to compare it to 9% inflation Biden / Harris economy. Now that is a fucking joke. 9% inflation in one year is fucking insane, can only be achieved with mega liberal policies like steal from the middle class and give to the poor / those who won't work.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041499]Sigh! Man, you still do not get it. First off, Bill Gates has just backed off the global warming climate change fiasco. Now that the silicon valley companies need massive power with their AI ventures, it is amazing how the end of the world gloom and doom climate change crap is off the table. Only Algore is still singing that song. Well, Algore and you.[/QUOTE][NOPARSE]First...Gates, Musk and others are not the first or the last, the spineless, billionaires, to blow like a leaf in the wind, and change their political views, given whatever prevailing new political winds blow in. BTW, Algore is making huge bank, investing in clean energy and environment friendly companies.[/NOPARSE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041499]The funny part is that I was looking at a RV and the manufacturer was like "Only set the temperature 20 degrees lower than it is outside or your pipes will freeze". I was like WTF? ... [/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Second...that was a pretty good rant on RVs, ACs and how to keep warm in one. But sounds like a separate convo/debate. If you want to start a side-debate on how to best heat an RV in the electrical age, then set it up for a side debate...I'm [/NOPARSE]game!

Perhaps in the next post, you could kindly explain, WTF vaccines, RVs and ACs have to do with, or dovetail into the changing landscape of global businesses transitioning to more cost effective and efficient BEV trucks from traditional diesel trucks and by doing so, benefit from cost saving of ten of thousands of dollars in ROI?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041499]And I will say this. Now that electricity generation is going to be the key to AI, you Democrats should be pretty damned grateful that there were so many of us Republicans who did not buy into your bullshit climate change theory like Europe did. Electricity is so costly in Europe that AI centers make no sense there. The race to win AI is going to be between China and the USA, the two nations that fought climate change bullshit. It is amazing to see how Europe checked themselves out of the race. Europe was so dumb. Oh, China, you want to build a billion coal plants, and we build none, that is fine with us.[/QUOTE]Much [NOPARSE]of this rant, is pretty much just wholly inaccurate. Both China and Europe are further ahead at becoming electrostate, than the U.S. and therefore perhaps better equipped to handle future AI power needs.

"...and we build none", yeah that's just not even close. Under your dumbass MAGA 2.0 admin, it is actively promoting the coal industry by opening federal lands for coal mining and providing financial support to modernize coal-fired power plants.

It's funny how the cost of electricity was one of the primary issues at the ballot box in the Dems the Big Blue Wave win in the 2025 Nov Elections. So tell me Elvis 2008, who do you think is paying for the current power (and water) needs of AI, data centers and crypto? Also, how do you think the U.S. is going to manage the fast growing power need of AI? Meaning where is the excess power going to be generated from, especially under the current clown shit-show MAGA admin? Is it nuclear? Is it "Drill Baby Drill"? Or just [/NOPARSE]out of thin air?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041499]Climate change was not an economic policy. It was a fucking religion. Still, the entire green revolution was not a bad thing. It is time though to check and see what makes economic sense and what does not and leave the patronizing bullshit behind.[/QUOTE]That's exactly [NOPARSE]what BEV trucks and clean energy systems do,...make economic sense. Pepsi, DHL, Walmart, and increased yoy sales of BEV trucks in Europe and China for example, are proving that over and over [/NOPARSE]again.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041499]It is going to be interesting to see if one voltage wins out, if solar will be incorporated into AC on an individual basis. When you start talking power costs like Europe is paying, having a power station with solar and a portable AC unit makes a lot of sense. The applications are endless.[/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Third...I've no idea what the hell "...if one voltage wins out" means. But Europe is much further along in electrification and clean energy than you might think, compared with the U.S.

And yes, if by "The applications are endless", you mean creating and storing your own power from solar/batteries (which your dumbass MAGA Fuhrer is trying to shutdown) and electrifying everything, so that countries, states, or individuals have the means to be self-sufficient and self-reliant (and not depend on gov't...something you should understand), then[/NOPARSE] [B]congratulations...you are [u]finally[/u] catching on,[/B] to what it means to be an electrostate.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041501]Oh brother. If you are a stock broker and your income is based on market gains, Trump has been a Godsend. If you are overweight without insurance and could not afford the $1000 a month for weight loss treatment but can handle paying the $300 Trump got in negotiations with drug companies, Trump has been a Godsend. If you live in Ukraine, you have seen Trump negotiating like crazy to bring peace to a region whereas Biden did not talk to anyone. Under Trump, there are finally reviews being done on vaccines to see if they do any fucking good at all. So being a child under Trump may mean better health for children. Just recently the incredibly stupid Hepatitis be vaccine being given to newborns was voted against.

But what about Hegseth, ETC ETC? What about them? It is fine for you to not like Trump and say he is not your preferred choice for president. That is your opinion, but the problem with you Democrats is that you are so fucking arrogant you think everyone would be better off with a president Harris. It just shows me what arrogant assholes you Democrats really are. A lot of people have done well under Trump. You are just too arrogant and stupid to see that.[/QUOTE]From Hawaii, so by proxy I'm a Democrat. Fact being, I'm not a fan of Harris or any of the top democrats in Congress.

Yea, a lot of millionaires, large corporations and billionaire have done well under this administration. However for the average working American this administration has been hell.

Got to love you vaccine deniers. Won't get into name calling, but you should really do some medical research fact checking.

Also, admire your tunnel vision in your praises of Trump. Again, highly recommend you do some fact checking on who really benefits from Trump's so call accomplishments. It's definitely not the majority of Americans. Yea Yea, if you're a stock trader you're making bank and 401's are profiting. But our National Debt is also skyrocketing.

Lastly, if everything is so great. Why the fuck is the administration hiding both the jobs and inflation reports? Odds of a recession in 2026 at 30-40% BTW.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3041580]From Hawaii, so by proxy I'm a Democrat. Fact being, I'm not a fan of Harris or any of the top democrats in Congress.

Yea, a lot of millionaires, large corporations and billionaire have done well under this administration. However for the average working American this administration has been hell.

Got to love you vaccine deniers. Won't get into name calling, but you should really do some medical research fact checking.

Also, admire your tunnel vision in your praises of Trump. Again, highly recommend you do some fact checking on who really benefits from Trump's so call accomplishments. It's definitely not the majority of Americans. Yea Yea, if you're a stock trader you're making bank and 401's are profiting. But our National Debt is also skyrocketing.

Lastly, if everything is so great. Why the fuck is the administration hiding both the jobs and inflation reports? Odds of a recession in 2026 at 30-40% BTW.[/QUOTE]Almost forgot. How about that 12 Billion Farmers Bailout, nothing like spending taxpayers dollars to fix a problem you caused.

Now awaiting for the tab for all the lawsuits that have been or will be filed against this administration over immigration enforcement, especially those that violated court orders and the Constitution.

Yup, it'll be the American Taxpayer that'll foot the bill for these. So, it's all good in Trump land.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041499]Sigh! Man, you still do not get it. First off, Bill Gates has just backed off the global warming climate change fiasco. Now that the silicon valley companies need massive power with their AI ventures, it is amazing how the end of the world gloom and doom climate change crap is off the table. Only Algore is still singing that song. Well, Algore and you.

The funny part is that I was looking at a RV and the manufacturer was like "Only set the temperature 20 degrees lower than it is outside or your pipes will freeze". I was like WTF? Oh no, I am going to figure out how to put in a system where I can get 65 degrees inside when it is 100 outside. So I needed not one but two AC units. RV manufacturers now let you put in up to 4 batteries in the typical well for batteries. The most powerful batteries that fit the slot are 12 volts 165 ah. That will run one AC all night. It can be charged via an alternator so just running the RV will charge the battery with a generator as a back up.

With the second AC, to run this on electricity, I would buy a power station, hook up solar panels to it, and give it two added batteries. The RVs I was looking at have a weight carrying capacity between 600 and 2000 pounds. Here is the funny part. The six batteries and the power station weigh about a 1,000 pounds. The cost for this setup is about $10,000 as well. Even with that, I still need to plug into shore power, which is electricity produced mostly with fossil fuels, and have a generator as back up.

Or I can buy a 5500 watt generator that weighs 200 pounds and burn $5 of fuel per night. In this case, alternative energy makes no sense...[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/economy/study-climate-damage-retracted.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRaN3-_HFDo[/URL]

My Industry has a lot of overlap with the scam known as "Global Warming".

I've been saying for 40 yrs that its a Wall St / CCP hoax, American manufacturing bad, send it all to CCPland.

Does anyone remember the 1970's when the covers of many major magazines were warning of the upcoming ICE AGE any day now.

And then the CCP opened to market reforms and BOOM Overnite Oh Shit Global Warming is going to destroy us all.

China officially opened its doors to market reforms in 1978, a pivotal year marked by Deng Xiaoping's leadership initiating the "Reform and Opening-up" (25913;38761;24320;25918 policy to transition from a centrally planned economy towards a market-oriented system, focusing on agriculture, industry, science, and defense. This era saw the establishment of Special Economic Zones (SEZs) like Shenzhen (1980) and policies encouraging private enterprise, leading to rapid economic growth and poverty reduction.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/today-its-global-warming-in-the-70s-it-was-the-coming-ice-age[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041572]Nope! No one with half a brain gives a shit. [/QUOTE]You're wrong again, as usual, with your baseless claims!

Apparently not, since your Sec. Def. MAGA idiot, lapdog and sycophant, Pete Hegseth, could be facing multiple criminal and war crimes charges. That's a heck of a lot a shit, to be charge with, for something nobody supposedly doesn't give a shit about. BTW, I'm pretty sure those lawmakers, looking to investigate and make any criminal charges, have wayyyyy more than half-a-brain.

[B]Former JAGs say Hegseth, others may have committed war crimes,[/B] Dec 1, 2025 [URL]https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/12/01/former-jags-say-hegseth-others-may-have-committed-war-crimes/[/URL].

I wonder what the Vegas odds are for when your MAGA Fuhrer throws Hegseth under the bus? [I](...kkkk!)[/I] A week from now? A Month? Three Months?

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3041582]Almost forgot. How about that 12 Billion Farmers Bailout, nothing like spending taxpayers dollars to fix a problem you caused.[/QUOTE]Yep, all [NOPARSE]those failed economic policies, leading up to the horrific farmer bailouts (2x now) and handouts (2x now), by the MAGA Fuhrer's and his clown shit-show admin, is once again looking a lot like, right-wing [/NOPARSE]socialism, to the tune of 40 billion ($28 bn 1st term and now $12 bn).

Trump and his Criminals just stole Oil from Venezuela!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3041600][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/economy/study-climate-damage-retracted.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRaN3-_HFDo[/URL]

My Industry has a lot of overlap with the scam known as "Global Warming".

I've been saying for 40 yrs that its a Wall St / CCP hoax, American manufacturing bad, send it all to CCPland.

[B]Does anyone remember the 1970's when the covers of many major magazines were warning of the upcoming ICE AGE any day now.[/b]

And then the CCP opened to market reforms and BOOM Overnite Oh Shit Global Warming is going to destroy us all.

China officially opened its doors to market reforms in 1978, a pivotal year marked by Deng Xiaoping's leadership initiating the "Reform and Opening-up" (25913;38761;24320;25918 policy to transition from a centrally planned economy towards a market-oriented system, focusing on agriculture, industry, science, and defense. This era saw the establishment of Special Economic Zones (SEZs) like Shenzhen (1980) and policies encouraging private enterprise, leading to rapid economic growth and poverty reduction.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/today-its-global-warming-in-the-70s-it-was-the-coming-ice-age[/URL][/QUOTE]Winger bullshitters have been reminding us of that supposed "trend" among scientists in the 1970's that never happened for decades though.

As your NYT article accurately characterized such proclamations; they were "outliers". And there was no such consensus among scientists. It was only that the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media tried to suggest there was. Not surprisingly. Your other links say as much:

[B]Cruz on the Global Cooling Myth and Galileo.[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/cruz-on-the-global-cooling-myth-and-galileo/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Sen. Ted Cruz cited a 1975 Newsweek article on global cooling to question the evidence of global warming, and in the process made several incorrect and unsubstantiated claims.
..........
The article in question was a single-page story published on April 28, 1975, by journalist Peter Gwynne. It did indeed paint an ominous picture of a cooling world, with particular concern regarding reductions to crop yields with cooler temperatures. The article, however, was criticized decades later, in May 2014, by its author.
..........
The survey of the peer-reviewed literature between 1965 and 1979 found only seven papers indicating global cooling compared with 44 papers indicating warming (see chart).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3041580]However for the average working American this administration has been hell. Yea Yea, if you're a stock trader you're making bank and 401's are profiting. Odds of a recession in 2026 at 30-40% BTW.[/QUOTE]About 60% of American workers have retirement accounts so I do not get how the average worker has been going through hell. And if the average working is in hell right now, what do you call it if there is a recession? Worse than hell? Is there even such a thing? That is what I mean about Democratic arrogance and hyperbole.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3041580]Lastly, if everything is so great[/QUOTE]I did not say everything was great.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;3041580]Got to love you vaccine deniers.[/QUOTE]Well, vaccines do produce an immune response. The theory of vaccines and with all but two of them it is just theory that boosting the immune system versus some diseases has more benefits than risks. I am a vaccine agnostic then and I am skeptical of anyone who claims to know otherwise. If you are a vaccine believer then, it is NOT based on science.

The crazy part with hepatitis be though is that the virus is spread the same way AIDS is. Is there a problem then with infants shooting up heroin and engaging in anal sex? Uh no, and that means that you do not know if the vaccine really works for decades, but it can do harm. It seems to me that a more targeted approach with at risk adults would make a whole lot more sense than blasting every infant with it.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041651]Yep, all [NOPARSE]those failed economic policies, leading up to the horrific farmer bailouts (2x now) and handouts (2x now), by the MAGA Fuhrer's and his clown shit-show admin, is once again looking a lot like, right-wing [/NOPARSE]socialism, to the tune of 40 billion ($28 bn 1st term and now $12 bn).[/QUOTE]What about the bailout of Argentina to the tune of $20 billion dollars? It would be non starter for the federal government to bail out a state (where Americans live) but it's okay to undercut Americans in agriculture and farming?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3041676]Winger bullshitters have been reminding us of that supposed "trend" among scientists in the 1970's that never happened for decades though.

As your NYT article accurately characterized such proclamations; they were "outliers". And there was no such consensus among scientists. It was only that the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media tried to suggest there was. Not surprisingly. Your other links say as much:

[B]Cruz on the Global Cooling Myth and Galileo.[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/cruz-on-the-global-cooling-myth-and-galileo/[/URL][/QUOTE]I remember the magazine covers I even did a school paper, I don't remember the magazine I used either Time or Newsweek.

More bullshit revisionist lies from the NYT and you.

Outliers my ass!! No surprise, you're a pathological LIAR on every single issue.

They are slowly trying to change the fucking narrative like they do with everything!!

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/12/11/ice-sweep-in-sanctuary-california-10000-criminal-aliens-arrested-including-14%e2%80%91conviction-repeat-offender/[/URL]

They deserve them.

Our Lord and Savior should scoop them all up all over the country and deport them to LA county instead of Latin America they certainly don't want them back.

They refer to them as "yesterdays trash".

Only problem I see, is that they would cheat the US Census and count them when they apportion house seats.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041648]You're wrong again, as usual, with your baseless claims!

Apparently not, since your Sec. Def. MAGA idiot, lapdog and sycophant, Pete Hegseth, could be facing multiple criminal and war crimes charges. That's a heck of a lot a shit, to be charge with, for something nobody supposedly doesn't give a shit about. BTW, I'm pretty sure those lawmakers, looking to investigate and make any criminal charges, have wayyyyy more than half-a-brain.

[B]Former JAGs say Hegseth, others may have committed war crimes,[/B] Dec 1, 2025 [URL]https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/12/01/former-jags-say-hegseth-others-may-have-committed-war-crimes/[/URL].

I wonder what the Vegas odds are for when your MAGA Fuhrer throws Hegseth under the bus? [I](...kkkk!)[/I] A week from now? A Month? Three Months?[/QUOTE]LOL, A whole of charges from the same group of people who falsely impeached Trump twice and made him America's ultimate anti-hero. It's the same divisive shit. War charges for killing narco terrorists who are illegally smuggling in deadly poison which will kill hundreds, maybe thousands of Americans is a total waste of time and further divides the country. Hegseth did nothing wrong in my eyes, but I will admit he doesn't appear to be hardened enough for the job and I am kind of disappointed in him. He doesn't seem like he takes the heat well, unlike Trump who is never phased from the bullshit attacks. Hegseth does need to toughen up if he wants to run that position properly.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3041676]Winger bullshitters have been reminding us of that supposed "trend" among scientists in the 1970's that never happened for decades though.

As your NYT article accurately characterized such proclamations; they were "outliers". And there was no such consensus among scientists.[/QUOTE]This is what is so maddening about you Democrats. Your arrogance is rooted in your bullshit explanations for your fuckups.

This is what I mean. Anyone should be able to see the scientific method at work. Here is the theory. Here is the data. Does it prove the theory or not? Status of the scientist should not matter.

The fact is both Time and Newsweek had the earth surrounded in an ice cube. The earth was getting colder. The winters in the 1970's were brutal. And the stories were the same. The cooling was man's fault and cue the scientists who say it is the fault of man.

Thing is CO2 levels were only able to be measured since 1955, and they were going up as we had this cooling. Then AlGore comes along twenty years later and now man is causing global warming, and rising CO2 levels are to blame, and it is the same doom and gloom we are all going to die bullshit unless we "do something".

And global warming slows down and the name is changed to climate change and now people are laughing off the entire concept of climate change.

The theory did not change. The money being spent on the theory has dried up because no one wants to talk about it anymore. Energy companies have been mostly Republican and it was fine to beat the snot out of them but when the silicon valley guys, the money arm of the Dems, was going to get beat up because of a lack of electricity driving AI growth, this theory was finally thrown on the trash heap where it belongs. The data NEVER matched the theory, and anyone with a brain could see it.

And now there is the consensus bullshit again. Science is data. Consensus is poltical. And the notion of God being mad at you and that is why there is no rain for your crops is the oldest fucking con there is. You Democrats fell for the con hook, line, and sinker just like you did with Covid. Instead of it being a bunch of swindlers driving into town with a carnival, it was con men with PHD behind their names sucking up to the pols and Hollywood elite. "You all are so special. You really understand how climate change works unlike those dumb Republicans. "

It is so funny how anyone who says Trump is not pure evil is accused of loving him so much. Trump fucked up the pandemic response. Bush let banks get away with murder, and the war in Iraq was a disaster. But with you guys and Biden? Oh, he was great. Kamala Harris was perfect. She would have been way better than Trump.

That is what gets me with Democrats. You are so arrogant and patronizing when time after time you have been so stupid and made these horrific fuckups. The trillion dollar climate change fuckup is melting away in our eyes, and the only thing you can say, "Can you believe Trump called a reporter Piggy? Man, those MAGA guys are dumb. "

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041748]LOL, A whole of charges from the same group of people who falsely impeached Trump twice and made him America's ultimate anti-hero. It's the same divisive shit. War charges for killing narco terrorists who are illegally smuggling in deadly poison which will kill hundreds, maybe thousands of Americans is a total waste of time and further divides the country. Hegseth did nothing wrong in my eyes, but I will admit he doesn't appear to be hardened enough for the job and I am kind of disappointed in him. He doesn't seem like he takes the heat well, unlike Trump who is never phased from the bullshit attacks. Hegseth does need to toughen up if he wants to run that position properly.[/QUOTE]Your [U]unfounded opinions[/U] aside, here are some REAL FACTS about your beloved Pete Hegseth:

Pete [B]"Double Tap"[/B] Hegseth, is a known and complete fuckup! [NOPARSE]He's a known drunk (who now claims to have stopped), and was arrested for sexual assault and then paid $50K NDA, to the women who accused him of a 2017 sexual assault, to make this "nuisance" suit quietly go away. But even his own mother called him "an abuser of women". And this is just the tip of the iceberg, as I could go on!

Wisely, Americans have grown to realize that unless they see real evidence and facts from this MAGA 2.0 shit-show admin, then don't believe a fucking word that come out of it's lying corrupt mouth or press releases. Hegseth, Bondi and Patel, are like the 3-Stooges,...all very comical and all very idiotically[/NOPARSE] entertaining.

Let's see what a congressional or other investigations uncover, because it's very suspicious, how the dude [B]proudly releases[/B] Notice how the idiot Hegseth, proudly flaunts the release of the previous first 21 strikes, which are of course used as public relations tools, for you MAGA dolts and suckers, to think the administration is doing "real work" against drug trafficking.

But the fact remains, [B]anyone with half-brain[/B], would ask themselves, why isn't [B]braggadocios Pete[/B] proudly flaunting the 22nd strike video? Why is it being withheld? It is perhaps no doubt due to its content, which shows a legally and ethically questionable "double-tap" war crime strike on survivors?

BTW, RamDavidson84, notice a common MAGA [U]lawless theme[/U] here? Something all too familiar, about MAGA politicians not releasing evidence to [NOPARSE]Americans?

That'S RIGHT...just like your MAGA Fuhrer's guilty conscience, with not releasing the Epstein Pedo Sex Files (EPSF), I suspect Hegseth must be going through the very same angst...ya[/NOPARSE] think?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3041742]I remember the magazine covers I even did a school paper, I don't remember the magazine I used either Time or Newsweek.

[B]More bullshit revisionist lies from the NYT and you.

Outliers my ass!![/b] No surprise, you're a pathological LIAR on every single issue.

They are slowly trying to change the fucking narrative like they do with everything!!

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/12/11/ice-sweep-in-sanctuary-california-10000-criminal-aliens-arrested-including-14%e2%80%91conviction-repeat-offender/[/URL]

They deserve them.

Our Lord and Savior should scoop them all up all over the country and deport them to LA county instead of Latin America they certainly don't want them back.

They refer to them as "yesterdays trash".

Only problem I see, is that they would cheat the US Census and count them when they apportion house seats.[/QUOTE]The headline in your linked NYT article, presumably posted by you to "prove" your contention:

[B]Top Journal Retracts Study Predicting Catastrophic Climate Toll.
While growing evidence shows that carbon emissions are harming the economy, the journal Nature found that an outlier paper had deep flaws.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/economy/study-climate-damage-retracted.html[/URL]

Since almost nobody without a NYT subscription can read your linked article after that headline, was the "outlier" paper with deep flaws the one joining everyone else on the carbon emissions / global climate change conclusion or the rare one that argued against it?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041770]Your [U]unfounded opinions[/U] aside, here are some REAL FACTS about your beloved Pete Hegseth:

Pete [B]"Double Tap"[/B] Hegseth, is a known and complete fuckup! [NOPARSE]He's a known drunk (who now claims to have stopped), and was arrested for sexual assault and then paid $50K NDA, to the women who accused him of a 2017 sexual assault, to make this "nuisance" suit quietly go away. But even his own mother called him "an abuser of women". And this is just the tip of the iceberg, as I could go on!

Wisely, Americans have grown to realize that unless they see real evidence and facts from this MAGA 2.0 shit-show admin, then don't believe a fucking word that come out of it's lying corrupt mouth or press releases. Hegseth, Bondi and Patel, are like the 3-Stooges,...all very comical and all very idiotically[/NOPARSE] entertaining.

Let's see what a congressional or other investigations uncover, because it's very suspicious, how the dude [B]proudly releases[/B] Notice how the idiot Hegseth, proudly flaunts the release of the previous first 21 strikes, which are of course used as public relations tools, for you MAGA dolts and suckers, to think the administration is doing "real work" against drug trafficking.[/QUOTE]Pete Hegseth had to make a second strike on the "combatants" because they were still dangerous. They could ham swam thousands of miles across the Atlantic and attacked America! LOL.

And Chump further exposed!

Traitor to America is right! And this traitor finally comes clean and fesses up to what those of us with any rational sense have known from the beginning. MAGA is nothing more than a bunch of divisive, dangerous, hateful, angry, bullshit lies. The thing is that supporters of MAGA know this but don't care! They like the fact that Chump is who he is, because they see their loser selves in him, and their anger at America is soothed by the fact that he has the power, and through him they can "break" things. Break the system that they feel screws them over. Break everything with their hate! Thanks Marjorie "Traitor" Green. You're still a hateful piece of shit yourself, but you demonstrate there is hope for your redemption:

[URL]https://youtu.be/M_qy4tb_F54?si=UdlLM9XRGcMdu6lL[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3041788]The headline in your linked NYT article, presumably posted by you to "prove" your contention:

[B]Top Journal Retracts Study Predicting Catastrophic Climate Toll.
While growing evidence shows that carbon emissions are harming the economy, the journal Nature found that an outlier paper had deep flaws.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/economy/study-climate-damage-retracted.html[/URL]

Since almost nobody without a NYT subscription can read your linked article after that headline, was the "outlier" paper with deep flaws the one joining everyone else on the carbon emissions / global climate change conclusion or the rare one that argued against it?[/QUOTE]But I have better things to do, than to combat your nonsensical lies for 2 days.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/health/medical-cannabis-benefits.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/rep-mcclain-obamacare-aca/2025/12/12/id/1238108/[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/amuse/status/1928197594146295818[/URL]

The Democratic party aka Bangkok Bob on steroids.

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=250[/URL]+billion+ppp+fraud&rlz=1 CAKPLI_enUS1143 US1143&oq=250+billion+ppp+fraud&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTEwNTU5 ajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3041788]The headline in your linked NYT article, presumably posted by you to "prove" your contention:

[B]Top Journal Retracts Study Predicting Catastrophic Climate Toll.
While growing evidence shows that carbon emissions are harming the economy, the journal Nature found that an outlier paper had deep flaws.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/economy/study-climate-damage-retracted.html[/URL]

Since almost nobody without a NYT subscription can read your linked article after that headline, was the "outlier" paper with deep flaws the one joining everyone else on the carbon emissions / global climate change conclusion or the rare one that argued against it?[/QUOTE]The DNC and the EPA aka the American political arms of the CCP.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/newsoms-national-model-homeless-wracked-fraud[/URL]

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ex-ny-aide-did-chinas-bidding-get-rich-prosecutor-says-closing-arguments[/URL]

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leaked-video-woke-elite-college-held-disgusting-sexual-orientation-performance[/URL]

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/social-justice-gone-wild-oklahoma-blm-leader-indicted-fraud-money-laundering-charges[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041770]Your [U]unfounded opinions[/U] aside, here are some REAL FACTS about your beloved Pete Hegseth:

Pete [B]"Double Tap"[/B] Hegseth, is a known and complete fuckup! [NOPARSE]He's a known drunk (who now claims to have stopped), and was arrested for sexual assault and then paid $50K NDA, to the women who accused him of a 2017 sexual assault, to make this "nuisance" suit quietly go away. But even his own mother called him "an abuser of women". And this is just the tip of the iceberg, as I could go on!

Wisely, Americans have grown to realize that unless they see real evidence and facts from this MAGA 2.0 shit-show admin, then don't believe a fucking word that come out of it's lying corrupt mouth or press releases. Hegseth, Bondi and Patel, are like the 3-Stooges,...all very comical and all very idiotically[/NOPARSE] entertaining.

Let's see what a congressional or other investigations uncover, because it's very suspicious, how the dude [B]proudly releases[/B] Notice how the idiot Hegseth, proudly flaunts the release of the previous first 21 strikes, which are of course used as public relations tools, for you MAGA dolts and suckers, to think the administration is doing "real work" against drug trafficking.[/QUOTE]Double Tap is a bad ass nickname. I wish I could get a cool nickname like that. Honestly, Its all stupid irrelevant shit you are crying about. As I have already stated, only people with TDS really care about that stuff. I could care less if Cash Patel and Hegseth are trying to get some pussy on the side. Could care less if Hegseth drinks and parties too much, so did Ulysses S. Grant and he saved the Union in Civil War. Would I prefer a squeaky clean government under Trump, absolutely. But do I and the American people really care about this inconsequential shit. Nope. So many more real issues to focus on. Securing border, removing dangerous illegals, securing trade deals, keeping stock and real estate market strong, tough on crime, fighting cartels, fighting inflation. Those are the things that really matter. Dems just have nothing else to report so they blow this stuff way out of proportion and the TDS crowd buys right into it like the sheep they are.

How is the White House ballroom renovation going? Did we plan a race riot protest to stop wasting money on the White House remodel LOL? Every American can receive a one penny tax credit with the money saved hahaha.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3041788]The headline in your linked NYT article, presumably posted by you to "prove" your contention:

[B]Top Journal Retracts Study Predicting Catastrophic Climate Toll.
While growing evidence shows that carbon emissions are harming the economy, the journal Nature found that an outlier paper had deep flaws.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/economy/study-climate-damage-retracted.html[/URL]

Since almost nobody without a NYT subscription can read your linked article after that headline, was the "outlier" paper with deep flaws the one joining everyone else on the carbon emissions / global climate change conclusion or the rare one that argued against it?[/QUOTE]December 1, 2025.

In 1862, in the midst of the Civil War, the Union government under Abraham Lincoln passed the Homestead Act, offering 160 acres of land, for free, to just about anyone, as long as you were willing to farm it.

For thousands of Norwegians, Swedes, and Germans facing poverty and land scarcity back in Europe, 160 acres of free land was an irresistible invitation.

Minnesota's vast prairies, dense forests, and endless lakes bore a striking resemblance to their native Scandinavian landscapes, and soon waves of settlers poured in, building farms, churches, and towns from the ground up.

Over time, they forged a deeply rooted culture—agrarian, devout, self-reliant, and fiercely community-oriented—that would shape the identity of the North Star State for generations.

Later waves of immigrants chose Minnesota for entirely different reasons.

In the early 1990's, Somalia collapsed into chaos after the fall of its government, and the US quickly found itself entangled.

President George H. W. Bush deployed American troops under the banner of humanitarian intervention. But after the infamous Black Hawk Down incident in 1993 in which 18 US service members were killed, President Clinton pulled the plug.

With Somalia descending even further into civil war, and the US eager to distance itself from direct military involvement, the Clinton administration came up with a new solution: asylum.

Tens of thousands of Somalis were granted refugee status, brought to America, and then placed in various cities across the country.

Some ended up in the South. Others landed in San Diego. But a small group—almost by accident—found their way to rural Minnesota, where meatpacking plants offered something no other place did: immediate employment that didn't require English fluency.

These early Somali immigrants seized the opportunity. They moved to Minneapolis. And then started telling their friends.

As one immigrant later said, they "loudly blew the whistle" to urge fellow Somalis to come to Minnesota.

And word spread fast: the jobs were real, the welfare system was generous, and the community was growing. And that's how the Twin Cities—snow and all—became the unlikely capital of Somali America.

Today, Minnesota is home to an estimated 60,000-80,000 Somalis—the largest Somali population outside of Somalia itself.

And many have found that meatpacking is no longer their most promising opportunity.

Minnesota has gone out of its way to build a welfare machine so outrageous that it seems to have been designed for fraud.

Under Governor Tim Walz, Minnesota has become ground zero for the most staggering welfare fraud in the nation.

Programs were built around low barriers to entry and minimal oversight. And the results have been both predictable and catastrophic.

Take "Feeding Our Future", a nonprofit meant to provide food for impoverished kids. In 2019, they received $3.4 million in federal funding. But once COVID hit, the grift went into overdrive.

By 2021, Feeding Our Future pulled in nearly $200 million, supposedly serving millions of meals across Minnesota. The reality? Fake attendance rosters, falsified meal counts, and fabricated invoices.

The money was instead spent on luxury cars, real estate in Africa, and lavish lifestyles. Somalis were at the heart of this fraud.

Then there's the Housing Stabilization Services (HSS) program. Launched in 2020 with a $2. 6 million estimate, the program ballooned to $104 million by 2024.

Investigators uncovered that many of the "providers" were nothing more than fictitious storefronts, billing Medicaid for services never rendered. Federal authorities have stated outright that the "vast majority" of HSS payments were fraudulent.

Federally funded autism services were the next target. In just five years, autism-related claims in Minnesota exploded over 100 x from $3 million to nearly $400 million.

It turns out that many of these were fabricated diagnoses, providing an intricate system of kickbacks to parents who were willing to pretend that their children were autistic.

Many of these came from the Somali community, with one Somali-American woman alone accused of siphoning $14 million from the program.

Under Tim Walz's administration, at least 28 separate fraud scandals have emerged, with most of the large-scale rings being perpetrated by members of Minnesota's Somali community.

When government agencies or journalists raise red flags, they're often met with a predictable defense: accusations of racism and xenophobia; Feeding Our Future even sued the state for racial discrimination when scrutiny increased.

The tactic worked. Timid politicians, unwilling to risk alienating a key voting bloc, turned a blind eye.

But the worst part is where most of that money ended up.

In 2023, the Somali diaspora sent back $1. 7 billion to Somalia—more than the entire Somali government's budget.

And Al-Shabaab, Somalia's al-Qaida-linked terrorist group, takes a cut of every dollar remitted.

Investigators found that many of the senders were on public assistance themselves—meaning US taxpayers were indirectly funding a terror group that wants to destroy America.

The irony is that the US government has stacks of legislation—Bank Secrecy Act, PATRIOT Act, AML compliance, FinCEN regulations—all supposedly crafted to keep money out of the hands of terrorist and money launderers.

And yet, somehow, a network of welfare scammers in Minneapolis can funnel billions of taxpayer money overseas to fund a notorious terror group.

There are zero red flags, no meaningful enforcement, and absolutely no accountability.

You couldn't invent a dumber system if you tried.

To your freedom.

MDS.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3041827]Traitor to America is right! And this traitor finally comes clean and fesses up to what those of us with any rational sense have known from the beginning. MAGA is nothing more than a bunch of divisive, dangerous, hateful, angry, bullshit lies. The thing is that supporters of MAGA know this but don't care! They like the fact that Chump is who he is, because they see their loser selves in him, and their anger at America is soothed by the fact that he has the power, and through him they can "break" things. Break the system that they feel screws them over. Break everything with their hate! Thanks Marjorie "Traitor" Green. You're still a hateful piece of shit yourself, but you demonstrate there is hope for your redemption:

[URL]https://youtu.be/M_qy4tb_F54?si=UdlLM9XRGcMdu6lL[/URL][/QUOTE]Note that she doesn't want to run for re-election because she is so convinced her Repub Party will not have Majority Control Power starting January 2027.

Nothing about wanting to continue to represent her constituents, propose, suggest or contribute to any negotiations for better legislation to improve America's economy, the welfare of Americans, smarter use of American tax-payer dollars, nothing. Nope. If the election doesn't deliver her "power" to do anything she wants with no negotiations necessary, no compromise necessary, no actual "governing" involved or required and certainly no actual working for her government paycheck, then she has no interest in taking the job, thank you.

Note that she also isn't running for re-election because she can't think of one damn good reason her former lord and savior Trump SHOULDN'T be well and surely Impeached again and again for the severe damage he has done to America and, therefore, does not want to be put in a position where she will have to lie her ass off to come up with a defense and excuse for him.

Nothing about being willing to take a stand AGAINST the severe damage he has done to America and for which she can offer zero defense or excuse in order to see that at least some form of justice is provided for America and to help prevent future scamming, lying, cheating, thieving, America-hating Repub con men from repeating Trump's transgressions.

Marjorie Taylor Greene is definitely the embodiment of the classic Repub now as always.

Still, she is light-years smarter and clearly better informed about the reality of her former lord and savior Trump than anyone here and elsewhere who continues to support him and believes his lies and con.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041884]Double Tap is a bad ass nickname. I wish I could get a cool nickname like that. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I have no doubt, should he find himself jailed for murder and war crimes, the nickname [I]"Double Tap"[/I] will serve him well, in the jail prison showers.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041884]Honestly, ... Would I prefer a squeaky clean government under Trump, absolutely. But do I and the American people really care about this inconsequential shit. Nope.
[/QUOTE]Since when was MURDER inconsequential? Make no mistake about it, many lawmakers report the 22 strikes were MURDER! [B]The Legal Consequences of Pete Hegseths Kill Them All Order,[/B] December 1, 2025 [URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-legal-consequences-of-pete-hegseths-kill-them-all-order[/URL]

Is it any wonder that Admiral Alvin Holsey, wanted no part of this murderous illegal strikes? He was right to retire, rather than be a patsy to Hegseth and company.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041884]So many more real issues to focus on. Securing border, removing dangerous illegals, securing trade deals, keeping stock and real estate market strong, tough on crime, fighting cartels, fighting inflation. Those are the things that really matter. Dems just have nothing else to report so they blow this stuff way out of proportion and the TDS crowd buys right into it like the sheep they are.[/QUOTE]Amidst the grifting, [NOPARSE]corruption, sympathizing with pedophiles and murder, are all pretty serious. But don't you worry, Americans are telling us, exactly what they think of your MAGA Fuhrer's failed policies...at the [/NOPARSE]BALLOT-BOX, in many districts, where your Fuhrer had double-digits wins in Nov 2024.

[U]MORE Big Wins for Dems:[/U]

On the heels of the recent Big Blue Wave 2025 Election wins, Dems have are still managing major wins in districts that where once ruby red, especially in Florida!

[B]Democrats end 30-year losing streak in Miami as Trump-backed candidate falls short,[/B] Dec, 9th 2025 [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-end-30-year-losing-streak-miami-mayoral-race-trump-backed-candidate-falls-short[/URL]

[B]Democrat Rob Long wins big in Florida House race, defeating MAGA Republican[/B], Dec 10th 2025 [URL]https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/12/10/democrat-rob-long-wins-big-in-florida-house-race-defeating-maga-republican/[/URL]

Note the wins by more than 20-points for Long. Looks like the Latinos are finally waking up to the reality of MAGA?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3041815]Pete Hegseth had to make a second strike on the "combatants" because they were still dangerous. They could ham swam thousands of miles across the Atlantic and attacked America! LOL.[/QUOTE]That was pretty a good jest!

But [NOPARSE]seriously, the very thing you seemingly jest about, it's even more hilarious to hear and see, coming from sycophant MAGA/Repub politicians, that argue those very same preposterous claims, trying to defend, $50K NDA "nuisance" suit accused rapist,[/NOPARSE] Pete [B]"Double-Tap"[/B] Hegseth, from what looks like murder, in the eyes of many lawmakers.

Apparently, the sight of seeing the video's gruesome footage, has several politicians feeling sickly and one throwing-up!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041579]If you want to start a side-debate on how to best heat an RV in the electrical age, then set it up for a side debate...I'm game![/QUOTE]Man has been able to heat himself since discovering fire. A RV has two heaters on average within. If you want free, you could add a wood burning oven, and a space heater can run all night on a car battery. That is easy-peasy.

AC use has really only taken off in the last 100 years, and there are still places around the world that need it. For the most part, using solar to try to displace fossil fuels was one of the dumbest things I have seen in my lifetime, but there have been some plusses to all the money spent on it.

When you see something like a 200 watt solar panel, that number is bullshit. That is 200 watts on a clear day between 10 AM and 2 PM. At other times, the panel is not generating that much electricity nor is it doing it at night or if there are clouds, fog, or rain. So unless you only need electricity for 4 hours, you need to have a lot more equipment including a power station that can charge up batteries. And given there are days that there is barely any sun, it would be crazy to have a power station with only solar input. With RVs today, power stations can get energy and charge batteries from a car alternator, a wall socket, solar panels, other batteries, or generators.

The various voltages are what appliances can run at, and power stations output to different voltages. Here is a woman checking out ACs at various voltages. If you go to the 7:15 point on this video, you can see a woman showing you the power usage and cooling power of various AC units, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CXCWdxj22Q[/URL]

The cheat sheet is 12 volts used the least power, 120 volts used the most with the most cooling, and 48 volts may have been the most cost effective in terms of cooling per watt. Some are saying 48 volt appliances are the future. That is what I meant by various voltages.

There is so much bad to say about solar but the cool part is that it can be generated anywhere outside of maybe the extreme North and South regions. Just like you no longer need phone lines to use cell phones, you do not need power lines and huge central facilities to generate power. You can plop solar almost anywhere, and I can see huge applications particularly in the 3rd world for doing this.

I was kind of fascinated about having an island in the remote South Pacfic that does not have fresh water. Can you toss in a solar powered plant and do desalinazation, get fresh water, and live somewhere that was previously uninhabitable? I do not see why not.

The big issue with solar and RVs are how heavy the fucking batteries are. A lot of RVs have only a few hundred pounds of carrying capacity. If you have a big power station with a spare battery, and you add in your own weight, you might not be safe to carry anything else. Still, while it may be cheaper in the short term to power an AC unit with a generator, generators are loud, smell bad, and wake people up. If I use a fuel efficient, powerful AC unit, you can be in stealth mode and "camp" wherever you want. My plan then is to use a generator as little as possible.

Now there is the stupid. Yeah, you can get by for a day or three with no sun and relying on battery power, but there are way too many times, the sunlight is inadequate for months or weeks and when that happens, you HAVE to have a different power source which is usually natural gas. So solar can reduce carbon emissions but the notion that it can eliminate them? Get the fuck out of here! There is not enough battery storage for periods of low sun. It is not doable.

And then there is the naming of petrostate versus electrostatic. Oh brother. The best part of solar is that anyone can generate it. The state should be a million miles away it. If people can generate their own power, use more energy efficient appliances, and save money, they will! This disastrous green policy was a consequence of the Democrat carbon bad, solar good, big government must do everything dumb Democrat thinking. In the pre AI world, less carbon was doable while no carbon or carbon neutral power generation was a boneheaded and dangerous pipe dream.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041579]Both China and Europe are further ahead at becoming electrostate, than the U.S. and therefore perhaps better equipped to handle future AI power needs. Under your dumbass MAGA 2.0 admin, it is actively promoting the coal industry by opening federal lands for coal mining and providing financial support to modernize coal-fired power plants. So tell me Elvis 2008, who do you think is paying for the current power (and water) needs of AI, data centers and crypto? Also, how do you think the U.S. is going to manage the fast growing power need of AI? Meaning where is the excess power going to be generated from, especially under the current clown shit-show MAGA admin? Is it nuclear? Is it "Drill Baby Drill"? Or just out of thin air?.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. Talk about the stench of TDS. Europe signed off on the Paris accords. Trump withdrew the USA from those accords and Thank God he did. As of now, you have AlGore and yourself thinking that was a bad idea. Bill Gates and all the tech Democrats have changed their tunes but as usual, you are stuck on the binary. Green good, carbon bad. And as usual, your little pea brain insulted Bill Gates, one of your own, instead of seeing why he changed his mind on climate change.

And no, you are not getting me defending Bill Gates but unlike you, I can clearly see why he changed his mind.

As for who is paying for the increased amount of electricity that data centers are using, I am guessing you are trying to say that data centers by using so much electricity are costing consumers more money. Yes, that is how it works with supply and demand.

As for Trump and coal, yeah, that is true but again you do not see the why. It is just more of the Trump is evil bullshit TDS.

While you are busy fighting the dumb Democratic war of green versus fossil fuels, you failed to notice that war has ended. Fossil fuels are in such demand for electricity the wait for natural gas turbines is like five years now. The USA needs to double its electricity production to win the AI war ASAP and with new gas greatly slowed down, that means nukes and / or coal and in the USA with nukes, nothing ever happens fast. I would prefer nukes to coal any day but yeah, I expect electricity from coal use to skyrocket while everyone talks up the nuclear game while nothing gets done.

And while you are giving Europe its props for its "electrostate" status, you fail to notice that their electric costs are so high, they are effectively priced out of the AI race so thank God, Trump pulled us out of the Paris accords and the green energy bullshit scam that was climate change or we would be where Europe is right now.

If a Democrat wants to call that decision lucky or say a broken clock is right twice a day, that is fine, but not you. No, Europe was and is smart with its green energy programs. Unreal.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3041934]Yeah, I have no doubt, should he find himself jailed for murder and war crimes, the nickname [I]"Double Tap"[/I] will serve him well, in the jail prison showers.

Since when was MURDER inconsequential? Make no mistake about it, many lawmakers report the 22 strikes were MURDER! [B]The Legal Consequences of Pete Hegseths Kill Them All Order,[/B] December 1, 2025 [URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-legal-consequences-of-pete-hegseths-kill-them-all-order[/URL]

Is it any wonder that Admiral Alvin Holsey, wanted no part of this murderous illegal strikes? He was right to retire, rather than be a patsy to Hegseth and company.

Amidst the grifting, [NOPARSE]corruption, sympathizing with pedophiles and murder, are all pretty serious. But don't you worry, Americans are telling us, exactly what they think of your MAGA Fuhrer's failed policies...at the [/NOPARSE]BALLOT-BOX, in many districts, where your Fuhrer had double-digits wins in Nov 2024.[/QUOTE]LOL, If Hegseth gets any type of punishment what so ever for killing Narco terrorists, I promise I will never post again. You have my word. Nothing is going to happen to him, too many people at this point have lost loved ones or close friends to fentanyl, myself included, and understand some type of meaning deterrence needs to be enacted. I am personally thrilled that Hegseth ordered them all killed. He is protecting American lives. That is the goal of the United States Military. But we all know this, I don't need to keep repeating the same old stuff, Dems would rather win elections than protect American lives. Dems really care about two Narco terrorists who were trying to poison Americans.

As for Midterms, it looks like it will be a strong victory for Dems, but that is not due to any failure on Trump. Independents want the Trump economy of 2016 and it just isn't here so they will stay home while the TDS crowd will be racing to the ballot.

I could do a Biden failure list to show what a truly horrible president looks like but we all know the shit show his Presidency was so I will spare you.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042053]LOL, If Hegseth gets any type of punishment what so ever for killing Narco terrorists, I promise I will never post again. You have my word. Nothing is going to happen to him, too many people at this point have lost loved ones or close friends to fentanyl, myself included, and understand some type of meaning deterrence needs to be enacted. I am personally thrilled that Hegseth ordered them all killed. He is protecting American lives. That is the goal of the United States Military. But we all know this, I don't need to keep repeating the same old stuff, Dems would rather win elections than protect American lives. Dems really care about two Narco terrorists who were trying to poison Americans.

As for Midterms, it looks like it will be a strong victory for Dems, but that is not due to any failure on Trump. [B]Independents want the Trump economy of 2016 and it just isn't here so they will stay home while the TDS crowd will be racing to the ballot.[/b]

I could do a Biden failure list to show what a truly horrible president looks like but we all know the shit show his Presidency was so I will spare you.[/QUOTE]Donald Trump was not president in 2016. Barack Obama was. For every day of it.

Donald Trump's one and only first term economic legislation was not even signed and passed until the last government business day of 2017, December 22.

Until 2018, Donald Trump was merely coasting on the positive economic trajectories hard fought and won by Obama-Biden and the Dems in Congress while recovering the USA Economy from the horrific Great Recession produced by Repub GW Bush and his Repub Congress and without any meaningful assistance in pulling America out of that historically deep ditch by the Repub Party that plunged us into it and instead only constant opposition and obstruction by them.

2018, the first year anyone could possibly characterize as a "Trump Economy", saw no significant increase in GDP Growth despite his one and only economic legislation having added Trillions to the deficit. Fewer jobs were created with his economic legislation in place than had been created in each of the previous three years without it. His failed tariff and trade war with China plunged American farmers and the manufacturing industry into Recession so deep Trump had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat. Same as today. Before the end of that first year of the "Trump Economy", the broad USA Stock Market suffered a Bear Market decline.

The sole reason for any American wage increases under Trump was because 20+ Blue States and Blue Cities increased the Minimum Wage in 2018 and 2019, despite Trump and his fellow Repub Congressional leadership adamantly opposing such an increase, same as they do today. But that didn't stop Trump from falsely taking credit for those Blue State and Blue City Minimum Wage increases that neither he nor his Repub policies had anything whatsoever to do with.

The rest of Trump's first term racked up the worst economic and jobs creation results in almost 100 years, going all the way back to the results of Repub President Herbert Hoover, who along with Repub Trump were the only presidents in that 100 years who left office with fewer jobs in the economy than were in it the day he took office.

And that was due almost entirely to the disastrous economic and national security decisions he made in 2018 and 2019 to defund and remove the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response team leadership from those Chinese labs, contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid. Followed by his exacerbating his initial colossal blunder by spending critical year 2020 lying about the reality of his Pandemic, mocking the known mitigation measures, lying that it was "disappearing already", discouraging anyone and everyone from inventing a vaccine for it much less taking a vaccine for it by lying that "it will go away without a vaccine" over and over again.

Again, eerily similar to what he is doing right now in his 2nd failed presidential term.

Consequently, it was Trump's Pandemic and only Trump's Pandemic that triggered virtually all of the millions of deaths, business, school and travel venue closures, the millions of jobs wiped out, the collapse of global supply-chains and the higher Inflation that unavoidably followed.

From which Biden-Harris recovered America in historic fashion with their stimulus legislation, immigration policy and leadership, recovering all of the millions of jobs Trump wiped out and then creating more new ones than all three previous Repub presidents combined, Trump, Bush2 and Bush1, and doing so with lower inflation than any other major country that did not follow Biden's brilliant methods for it, leading directly to the Envy of the World Economy that Biden-Harris handed Trump on a silver platter that he has since touching it turned to shit and is now rapidly trying to kill.

Ok. Now remind us of all those Biden failures to which you alluded.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3041884]Double Tap is a bad ass nickname. I wish I could get a cool nickname like that. Honestly, Its all stupid irrelevant shit you are crying about. As I have already stated, only people with TDS really care about that stuff. I could care less if Cash Patel and Hegseth are trying to get some pussy on the side. Could care less if Hegseth drinks and parties too much, so did Ulysses S. Grant and he saved the Union in Civil War. Would I prefer a squeaky clean government under Trump, absolutely. But do I and the American people really care about this inconsequential shit. Nope. So many more real issues to focus on. Securing border, removing dangerous illegals, securing trade deals, keeping stock and real estate market strong, tough on crime, fighting cartels, fighting inflation. Those are the things that really matter. Dems just have nothing else to report so they blow this stuff way out of proportion and the TDS crowd buys right into it like the sheep they are.

How is the White House ballroom renovation going? Did we plan a race riot protest to stop wasting money on the White House remodel LOL? Every American can receive a one penny tax credit with the money saved hahaha.[/QUOTE]To turn all those terrorists into shark food.

[URL]https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/middle-school-student-1500-fentanyl-laced-pills/89-eb1f0306-00ce-49fc-b109-cc1026f6a80d[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3042082]Donald Trump was not president in 2016. Barack Obama was. For every day of it.

Donald Trump's one and only first term economic legislation was not even signed and passed until the last government business day of 2017, December 22.

Until 2018, Donald Trump was merely coasting on the positive economic trajectories hard fought and won by Obama-Biden and the Dems in Congress while recovering the USA Economy from the horrific Great Recession produced by Repub GW Bush and his Repub Congress and without any meaningful assistance in pulling America out of that historically deep ditch by the Repub Party that plunged us into it and instead only constant opposition and obstruction by them..[/QUOTE]LOL I love how you refer to it as "Trump's Pandemic". If the Trump Derangement crowd got their way, the entire history of America would be rewritten as your doing with the Pandemic. I can't wait to learn about "Trump's Great Depression of the 1920's" and "Trump's Viet Nam War" and "Trump's Bill Clinton Sex Scandal of the 1990's". The one not involving Epstein just to be clear LOL.

When Trump actually does something you can criticize him for, please let me know. You know like the Biden Afgan pull out or The Hunter Biden Crack working girl gun video or the Pipe line closure costing tens of thousands jobs and increasing energy prices or backing the Green New Scam / Deal or endless supply chain issues increasing consumer prices or 9% inflation or starting the war in Ukraine and Israel by showing extreme military ineptitude and wildly dividing the country or opening up the border and allowing an entire nation of non skilled immigrants into our country or going to completely senile J. The. Vance has to assume control of the country or allowing men into women's sports or having nude Transexuals run around on the White House lawn LOL. Anything along those lines happens, please let me know LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042053]LOL, If Hegseth gets any type of punishment what so ever for killing Narco terrorists, I promise I will never post again. You have my word. Nothing is going to happen to him, too many people at this point have lost loved ones or close friends to fentanyl, myself included, and understand some type of meaning deterrence needs to be enacted. I am personally thrilled that Hegseth ordered them all killed. He is protecting American lives. That is the goal of the United States Military. But we all know this, I don't need to keep repeating the same old stuff, Dems would rather win elections than protect American lives. Dems really care about two Narco terrorists who were trying to poison Americans.

As for Midterms, it looks like it will be a strong victory for Dems, but that is not due to any failure on Trump. Independents want the Trump economy of 2016 and it just isn't here so they will stay home while the TDS crowd will be racing to the ballot.

I could do a Biden failure list to show what a truly horrible president looks like but we all know the shit show his Presidency was so I will spare you.[/QUOTE]What about Juan Orlando Hernandez the former Honduran President who was pardoned by Trump after being convicted of conspiring to import of 400 tons of cocaine into the US? How does that square with what Hegseth and Co are doing in the Caribbean?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042154]What about Juan Orlando Hernandez the former Honduran President who was pardoned by Trump after being convicted of conspiring to import of 400 tons of cocaine into the US? How does that square with what Hegseth and Co are doing in the Caribbean?[/QUOTE]Never heard of him, care to post a link explaining it? Also, When I said Hegseth will not get in trouble, I mean legal trouble. I actually don't think he is ready for the position and I would imagine he may eventually fired. I love that he is using lethal force against Narco terrorists to save Americans, he can't show weakness like he has been though.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042201]Never heard of him, care to post a link explaining it? Also, When I said Hegseth will not get in trouble, I mean legal trouble. I actually don't think he is ready for the position and I would imagine he may eventually fired. I love that he is using lethal force against Narco terrorists to save Americans, he can't show weakness like he has been though.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/12/14/worst-of-the-worst-400-criminal-aliens-busted-in-minnesota-walzs-sanctuary-policies-blamed/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042201]Never heard of him, care to post a link explaining it? Also, When I said Hegseth will not get in trouble, I mean legal trouble. I actually don't think he is ready for the position and I would imagine he may eventually fired. I love that he is using lethal force against Narco terrorists to save Americans, he can't show weakness like he has been though.[/QUOTE]If you watch FOX News and nothing else then that explains why you are uninformed. This affair in the Caribbean is just distraction from the soon to be due Epstein Files. Doesn't make sense to use our armed forces to chase nickel and dime drug traffickers (there's no proof of that BTW) headed to Surinam.

Trump won't be in office forever there's nothing stopping a future president from giving Hegseth a one way air fare to The Hague free of chargee courtesy of the US government.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042089]LOL I love how you refer to it as "Trump's Pandemic". If the Trump Derangement crowd got their way, the entire history of America would be rewritten as your doing with the Pandemic. I can't wait to learn about "Trump's Great Depression of the 1920's" and "Trump's Viet Nam War" and "Trump's Bill Clinton Sex Scandal of the 1990's". The one not involving Epstein just to be clear LOL.

When Trump actually does something you can criticize him for, please let me know. You know like the Biden Afgan pull out or The Hunter Biden Crack working girl gun video or the Pipe line closure costing tens of thousands jobs and increasing energy prices or backing the Green New Scam / Deal or endless supply chain issues increasing consumer prices or 9% inflation or starting the war in Ukraine and Israel by showing extreme military ineptitude and wildly dividing the country or opening up the border and allowing an entire nation of non skilled immigrants into our country or going to completely senile J. The. Vance has to assume control of the country or allowing men into women's sports or having nude Transexuals run around on the White House lawn LOL. Anything along those lines happens, please let me know LOL.[/QUOTE]It really is astonishing how little if any Real News Facts you know, which must account for the truly bizarre fact-free conclusions you have somehow been led into believing by some of the most blatantly obvious con men and liars in history.

Well, we certainly can't fault Trump's pullout of any quagmire, counter-productive Repub-initiated USA War on his watch since he happily presided over a raging War in Afghanistan for the entirety of his presidency and did not pull us out of one. Obama did. Biden did. But between those two great presidencies we had Trump assuring us he could end any war on day one with a simple phonecall. I guess he misplaced his phone on January 2017 and couldn't find it until January 2021.

Biden's withdrawal from Repub Bush's War in Afghanistan was the least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in modern warfare history. Maybe in all of history. Can you name a less deadly one?

The tragic death of 13 USA military personnel by a single suicide bomber had nothing to do with security lapses by Biden or anyone else in the USA Military. Thanks to Trump, that was a Talaban operation and the suicide bomber likely came from among the 5,000 violent jihadists Trump agreed to set free in the country as part of his unconditional surrender to the Talaban.

For more Real News Facts about who fucked up the chance of a better withdrawal result than the historically successful one Biden effected despite the crap sandwich conditions for it that Trump "nehotiated", please see the screenshot below.

LOL. And you are actually comparing Hunter Biden's laptop photos of him getting a foot job from a hooker and those other non issues to Trump's disastrous economic and national security decision results to defund and remove the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response team leadership from those Chinese labs in 2018 and 2019, contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid, something BTW that is strikingly similar to what he is doing right now with the CDC communications systems, which even according to Trump's own March 2020 audio recorded admission was responsible for creating his Pandemic that otherwise could have been confined to a manageable epidemic in one region of China until a vaccine remedy was invented and administered?

Had Biden, Obama or Clinton defunded and removed that leadership team from those Chinese labs contrary to all expert warnings for them not to do that just a few months before a worldwide Pandemic was allowed to develop aa a direct result of there being no responsible parties on site to monitor and report the earliest cases, you can bet the farm Fux News and you would have been referring to it as Biden's Pandemic, etc al, with every one of the million American deaths from it.

And they and you would have been right to do it.

Also, Joe Biden has never been senile or cognitively impaired enough to believe the load of crap from a con man that other countries pay America's taxes for them including import / tariff taxes.

Do you know anyone senile and cognitively impaired enough to believe much less assert that Billions of dollars are "flowing into" America from China, Brazil, India or anywhere else when America pays Trump's American Import taxes?

Free weapons kill more than 16000 people every year, keep on like this. Same than Netanyahou is responsible for Australia and others around the world. I wonder if Israel will get rid of him on next elections.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042201]Never heard of him, care to post a link explaining it? Also, When I said Hegseth will not get in trouble, I mean legal trouble. I actually don't think he is ready for the position and I would imagine he may eventually fired. I love that he is using lethal force against Narco terrorists to save Americans, he can't show weakness like he has been though.[/QUOTE] Now that just hilarious, you of all people, telling someone else, to post a link of factual information! GTFOH! As for Hegseth, I'm thoroughly enjoying the idiot squirm under that scrutiny of congress and lawmakers, for [B]murder on the highseas[/B].

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042053]LOL, If Hegseth gets any type of punishment what so ever for killing Narco terrorists, I promise I will never post again. You have my word. Nothing is going to happen to him, too many people at this point have lost loved ones or close friends to fentanyl, myself included, and understand some type of meaning deterrence needs to be enacted. I am personally thrilled that Hegseth ordered them all killed. He is protecting American lives. That is the goal of the United States Military. But we all know this, I don't need to keep repeating the same old stuff, Dems would rather win elections than protect American lives. Dems really care about two Narco terrorists who were trying to poison Americans..[/QUOTE]What [NOPARSE]the hell...has your Fuhrer and FOXY Muse, got you believing in "Narco terrorists"? ...Hilarious!!!! How gullible do they think their audiences[/NOPARSE] are?

Yeah, they [NOPARSE] have you believing the boogeyman "Narco terrorists" are coming to get ya from Venezuela, but the pardoning by your MAGA Fuhrer for several of the big drug traffickers (such as Juan Orlando Hernández, fmr. Honduran Pres. as mentioned here several times here and has been in the news for the last several weeks), that has poisoned, drugged-up and killed untold Americans, with 360+ tons of cocaine, according to you, you apparently...KNOW nothin about it! Did I get that right?

Well by all means, continue to be brainwashed over at FOXY Muse! But if you're going to continue to debate the bigger threat w/r to drug trafficking, perhaps try doing a little homework. Does it not behoove you, to at the very least, Google the fmr. Honduran President? Or just stay ignorant?

BTW, I know, down at FOXY Muse and in Trumpland, they've been telling you, that fentanyl is being produced and transported from Venezuela,[/NOPARSE] but [B]it's all LIES[/B]. [NOPARSE]Cocaine yes, but for fentanyl...perhaps they should try looking to Mexico or China![/NOPARSE].

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042053]I could do a Biden failure list to show what a truly horrible president looks like but we all know the shit show his Presidency was so I will spare you.[/QUOTE]Hey don't do me any favors, got ahead and knock yourself out, [B]print the list![/B].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041942]Man has been able to heat himself since discovering fire. A RV has two heaters on average within. If you want free, you could add a wood burning oven, and a space heater can run all night on a car battery. That is easy-peasy.

AC use has really only taken off in the last 100 years, and there are still places around the world that need it. For the most part, using solar to try to displace fossil fuels was one of the dumbest things I have seen in my lifetime, but there have been some plusses to all the money spent on it.

When you see something like a 200 watt solar panel, that number is bullshit. That is 200 watts on a clear day between 10 AM and 2 PM. At other times, the panel is not generating that much electricity nor is it doing it at night or if there are clouds, fog, or rain. So unless you only need electricity for 4 hours, you need to have a lot more equipment including a power station that can charge up batteries. And given there are days that there is barely any sun, it would be crazy to have a power station with only solar input. With RVs today, power stations can get energy and charge batteries from a car alternator, a wall socket, solar panels, other batteries, or generators..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/12/15/watch-landman-rips-the-view-hosts-who-hate-millionaires-and-trump-and-men-and-you-and-me/[/URL]

I traveled plenty during the CCP / Wuhan Flu sham, never wearing a mask and I never became ill.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/evidence-clear-masks-dont-do-anything[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042280]What [NOPARSE]the hell...has your Fuhrer and FOXY Muse, got you believing in "Narco terrorists"? ...Hilarious!!!! How gullible do they think their audiences[/NOPARSE] are?

Yeah, they [NOPARSE] have you believing the boogeyman "Narco terrorists" are coming to get ya from Venezuela, but the pardoning by your MAGA Fuhrer for several of the big drug traffickers (such as Juan Orlando Hernndez, fmr. Honduran Pres. as mentioned here several times here and has been in the news for the last several weeks), that has poisoned, drugged-up and killed untold Americans, with 360+ tons of cocaine, according to you, you apparently...KNOW nothin about it! Did I get that right?

Well by all means, continue to be brainwashed over at FOXY Muse! But if you're going to continue to debate the bigger threat w/r to drug trafficking, perhaps try doing a little homework. Does it not behoove you, to at the very least, Google the fmr. Honduran President? Or just stay ignorant?.[/QUOTE]How is it we share a country and you can actually believe the things you type? I have a strong hatred for you personally and usually I do play up the rhetoric because of the personal attacks you have sent me, but this just makes me feel so sorry for you.

Please go educate yourself on the cartels of Latin America. They kill tens of thousands of humans every year. They engage in human trafficking and they use their vast wealth to corrupt the politicians of Latin America. They are evil humans. This is not up for debate. Label them however you want, call them Narcos, drug dealers, Terrorists, entrepenuers, it doesn't matter. What matters is their actions. They kill, torture, rape, and terrorize thousands all over Latin America every year. I have absolutely no problem using the United States Military to kill them as a deterrence to hinder their activity. Anyone who doesn't suffer from TDS gets this immeadiately. Now we add in the two other major factors. Many of these cartels cut their drugs with fentanyl for easy profits which has deadly consequences for the user. So dumb I have to keep telling you this. Go count last year fentanyl poisonings. Go ask Robert Deniro about how he feels about fentanyl and how his son was poisoned to death by it. Cartels also traffic in massive numbers of illegal immigrants with vast criminal records. Many times this is done covertly with the governments of the home country to empty out the prison population because it is a financial burden on the state. I can't make this any more clear, the drug cartels of Latin America are evil and deadly force as a deterrent is 100% justified at this point. If you added up all the deaths from the last twenty years, it is probably in the millions at this point. How much longer should USA turn a blind eye and let the innocent be poisoned and murdered and raped?

I will also address Trump's comments on Rob Reiner's murder. Trump is 100% wrong and I am ashamed of his behavior and I truly wish he hadn't have said those things and I can't justify that behavior or even explain it. It does appear Trump truly does hate the extreme left.

That being said. Rob Reiner, his wife, and his son are all victims of drug cartels in a sense. Those drugs, "cocaine", rot your brain to the point where you are no longer in control of your emotions or behavior and his son was a long time drug addict. Hopefully these senseless murders shed light on the horrors of letting drug cartels run wild and poison our nation. Rob Reiner and his wife did not deserve this.

As for Juan Hernandez, sorry I work full time and I can't follow every story. I watched a few videos on him and I don't know it well enough to offer a valid opinion on. I will say that our own Law enforcement makes deals with drug dealers all the time to catch bigger fish or fullfill more important agendas. It is just part of the game. From what I have seen though, Hernandez was wrongfully convicted and Trump is backing him because he has played ball with the USA for a long time. It is what it is. I am not thrilled to read about it, but again if I have to choose between open border policy of the left and Biden and the border policy of Trump who is shady at times and says horrific things from time to time, it is still an easy choice. I choice to save lives and fight cartels and protect Americans from poison.

BTW cocaine addiction is a horrible thing. Its almost no better then fentanyl. Go look up the crack addicts of Kensington in Philadelphia if you think smuggling in cocaine is no big deal. Insane your even making this argument. At least try to stick to the legal aspects of when to use deadly force on non combatants in times of peace between nations like CNN does. You just go completely full TDS right from the go and try defend cocaine smugglers like its no crime at all and no one gets hurt from it LOL. You really should not even be allowed to post because you make you people look so foolish LOL.

[URL]https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/criminal-violence-mexico[/URL]

According to the article, 30,000 people are murdered by the Cartel every year just in Mexico. Probably 10 times that if you count all of Latin America. 300 k a year buddy. Keep up the noble work defending the cartel.

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2025/12/15/what-happened-to-the-climate-change-cult/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/15/us/politics/pelosi-stock-trading-ban.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041942] Europe signed off on the Paris accords. Trump withdrew the USA from those accords and Thank God he did. ... Green good, carbon bad.
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And no, you are not getting me defending Bill Gates but unlike you, I can clearly see why he changed his mind.[/QUOTE]For all your rants on Bill Gates, when did anyone with an once of renewable, clean energy and green environmental savvy ever turn to Bill Gates, as an expert person for that intelligent knowledge space? Gates is fine when it comes to computers and AI? When it comes to renewables and clean energy, his money and investments do the loudest and best talking, as demonstrated in an upcoming post.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041942]As for who is paying for the increased amount of electricity that data centers are using, I am guessing you are trying to say that data centers by using so much electricity are costing consumers more money. Yes, that is how it works with supply and demand. ... Fossil fuels are in such demand for electricity the wait for natural gas turbines is like five years now. The USA needs to double its electricity production to win the AI war ASAP and with new gas greatly slowed down, ... I would prefer nukes
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And while you are giving Europe its props for its "electrostate" status, you fail to notice that their electric costs are so high, they are effectively priced out of the AI race so thank God[/QUOTE]If the USA (under the MAGA Fuhrer) want to burn fossil fuels, be it coal or gas and build multi-billion dollar boondoggle unproven SMRs and money-pit nuclear reactors and ignore the low cost renewables, as the cheapest form of energy production today, then. GOOD LUCK with that! Not too mention, it has probably lost the AI race already, if we are to believe your cooked up "theory", that based on electricity prices, that will determine, who will win the AI race or be most successful.

Keep in mind China and Europe's grids have already transitioned to 62% and 54% renewables, respectively. [B]Renewables capacity doubles in first half (China)[/B] (July 31,2025) [URL]https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202507/31/content_WS688ae199c6d0868f4e8f490d.html[/URL] [B]Solar leads EU electricity generation as renewables hit 54%[/B] [URL]https://electrek.co/2025/09/30/solar-leads-eu-electricity-generation-as-renewables-hit-54-percent/[/URL] The you. S not so much, at around 25% renewables.

BTW, where is your data to backup your claims?

So while you pose a interesting question, that takes "the race to AI success" and boil it down to a two-horse race, between the USA And China, based of electricity prices, unfortunately not buying into your premise that electricity prices, even close to being a key factor, let alone a mitigating factor. I think your argument is weak and flawed.

[B]Simply put, your electricity argument...[u]is an oversimplification[/u], of who will succeed.[/B] There will be many key factors, that make up which companies / countries will win the AI race. And while the price of electricity maybe a one key factor, among many, nothing you've said, leads me to believe, it is the prevailing key factor, above all others, that will determine success.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041942]Man has been able to heat himself since discovering fire. A RV has two heaters on average within. If you want free, you could add a wood burning oven, and a space heater can run all night on a car battery. That is easy-peasy.[/QUOTE]Sure, [NOPARSE]if you take the proper precautions not to burn down your camper with space heaters and don't mind the poisoning or killing yourself, from wood burning stove carbon monoxide risks. But I wouldn't exactly call them FREE! And good luck charging your car battery (lead-ion??) Every day. Have you thought about a heat pump and a Li-ion batter power [/NOPARSE]station?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041942]AC use has really only taken off in the last 100 years, and there are still places around the world that need it. For the most part, using solar to try to displace fossil fuels was one of the dumbest things I have seen in my lifetime, but there have been some plusses to all the money spent on it.

When you see something like a 200 watt solar panel, ...

My plan then is to use a generator as little as possible. ...

So solar can reduce carbon emissions but the notion that it can eliminate them? Get the fuck out of here! There is not enough battery storage for periods of low sun. It is not doable.[/QUOTE]Sorry [NOPARSE]but I'm unable to follow your train of thought. Do you want to debate the adv/disadv of solar/batteries? Or want to swap ideas, on how best to heat an RV? Or are you trying to say solar/batteries for heating RVs don't mix?

What is the precise topic, this post is trying to or supposed to [/NOPARSE]address?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3041942]And then there is the naming of petrostate versus electrostatic. ... This disastrous green policy was a consequence of the Democrat carbon bad, solar good, big government must do everything dumb Democrat thinking. In the pre AI world, less carbon was doable while no carbon or carbon neutral power generation was a boneheaded and dangerous pipe dream.[/QUOTE]That would be Electrostate vs. Petrostate, ie. China is the former and the USA Is the later. If by "green policy", you're referring to President Joe Biden's very successful, IRA and USA Clean Energy Programs, involving the innovative clean energy and renewable initiatives given to industry to kick-start cleaner green energy alternatives, than you couldn't be more wrong, as to how "boneheaded" they are.

And to be clear, while I know fossil fuels, petro-carbons and chemicals will be around for a long-time to come, and have many great uses. However, my interest lies, in highlighting the many ways in which we can decarbonize without BURNING FOSSIL FUELS, which is totally doable for perhaps 90% of industry, when you see (in my next post) the latest from a clean energy company [B]Rondo Energy (California), [/B] that benefited immensely impart with funding from President Joe Biden's IRA Clean Energy bill.

Hate all you want on President Joe Biden's IRA Clean, Green, Renewables Energy & Chips Bills, all you want, it doesn't take-away from the fact, they were a hugely successful!

[B]FACT:[/B] 3/4 of energy used by industry, is in the form of HEAT, not electricity.

Rondo's Heat (Bricks) Battery, is now solving that industry problem. With free [B]electrons from intermittent solar and wind,[/B] that are now a cheaper source of electricity, than burning fossil fuels. This now provides the means, by which to generate [B]over 1000+ degrees Celsius[/B] in their heat battery, delivering industrial strength heat, as either hot-air or steam to customers, required to solve and meet (about 95% they claim) of the industrial sectors heating energy needs.

Rondo Energy, literally promote their heat battery that replaces boilers, where [I]"It's as simple as, we heat bricks with toaster wire (like the one in your kitchen) and it doesn't get cheaper than that!"[/I].

[B]Worlds largest industrial heat battery is online and solar-powered,[/B] October 16,2025 [URL]https://electrek.co/2025/10/16/worlds-largest-industrial-heat-battery-is-online-and-solar-powered/[/URL] and [B]CNBC - How Thermal Batteries Could Replace Lithium-Ion Batteries[/B] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPMXVLs3-Q[/URL].

Having [NOPARSE] just finished a a 100 MWh/20MWh (heat battery/solar) project in California (for an Oil Company of all people), now other industry companies from cement producers to chemical plants, are lining up, for a chance to decarbonize their industries.

WOW!...The applications are huge for this very revolutionary heat battery and for all major commercial and industrial companies that use high temperature heat for their materials processing.

Thanks again impart to President Joe Biden's IRA Clean Energy bill initiatives. And best of all no moronic unnecessary "Drill-Baby-Drill", thanks to clean green renewable energy out-of-the-box thinking. I would even venture to image, it even has, residential block and community[/NOPARSE] based heating applications or possibly heating their buildings.

[B]P.S.:[/B] BTW, Bill Gates is a major contributor and backer to this clean green energy company. As far as I'm concerned with Bill Gates, I'll let his millions in clean green investments do the talking!

Chump Chief of Staff drops truth bombs! The dam is breaking:

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/politics/susie-wiles-interview-trump[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3042404]I traveled plenty during the CCP / Wuhan Flu sham, never wearing a mask and I never became ill.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/evidence-clear-masks-dont-do-anything[/URL][/QUOTE]Your sentiments were shared by former presidential candidate Herman Cain who is no longer with us. At the end of day was it worth it to not wear the mask?

The fall of USD under drunk orange. I don t buy US products, same than Chinese low quality, but make me feel richer.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042594]Your sentiments were shared by former presidential candidate Herman Cain who is no longer with us. At the end of day was it worth it to not wear the mask?[/QUOTE]Something else killed him, not wearing a mask wasn't it.

I was 50 in perfect health.

But you brain dead sheeple loved them, so why don't you still wear them?

I loved seeing fools walking down the street alone wearing them or driving alone LMFAO.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/masks-outdoor-recess-burr-elementary-chicago-public-schools/[/URL]

I can't breathe with a mask blocking my airflow, if they ever mandate them again I promise you now I won't be wearing them.

BTW do you know English? Do you know how to read? Did you see what did the mask link showed.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042421]Please go educate yourself on the cartels of Latin America. They kill tens of thousands of humans every year. ...
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BTW cocaine addiction is a horrible thing. Its almost no better then fentanyl. Go look up the crack addicts of Kensington in Philadelphia if you think smuggling in cocaine is no big deal. Insane your even making this argument. ...
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Keep up the noble work defending the cartel.[/QUOTE]Good rant and truth be told, I did enjoy a good chuckle over your strawman arguments, but really, for all your barking about cocaine and fentanyl, it's tad bit funny, you still don't seem to understand [B]the basic concept of being lied to,[/B] by FOXY MUSE and your MAGA Fuhrer, about fentanyl coming out of Venezuela, when they're NOT! This matters, since fentanyl, distributed mainly out of Mexico and China, is what is being attributed to most drug deaths in America.

It's so hilarious, how you gullible MAGA suckers, again and again, buy into your MAGA Fuhrer's lies, corruption and pretexts, to whip-up support for an illegal attack on Venezuela, with some "narco terrorist" bullshit (just like the war on Iraq), for some personal vendetta and "Drill-Baby-Drill" unlawful and illegal capture of Venezuelan state oil and property. It's sad really!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3042421]At least try to stick to the legal aspects of when to use deadly force on non combatants in times of peace between nations like CNN does. You just go completely full TDS right from the go and try defend cocaine smugglers like its no crime at all and no one gets hurt from it LOL. You really should not even be allowed to post because you make you people look so foolish LOL.[/QUOTE]Hey, it's not like you MAGA suckers, don't just show up looking [B][i]"stupid", "foolish""[/i][/B] and just [I][b]"weaklings",[/b][/I] after years of your MAGA Fuhrer, repeatedly telling you this. I don't need to do a thing.

But really, perhaps you should take your own advice and read up when it is by law appropriate to use deadly force.

Again, is it any wonder that Admiral Alvin Holsey [I][b](a veteran of over some 37 yrs),[/b][/I] wanted no part of these murderous illegal deadly force boat strikes and said as much to Pete Hegseth? And somehow you think Hegseth, [U]who's been Sec. Def. for all of 5-minutes[/U], knows more than the honorable vets, with +37 years of service? If so, you need to spend less time in Trumpland and more time, on how to be less gullible!

Like I said, your MAGA Fuhrer and the shit-show admin, tell so many freakin' LIES, are we too believe them when the call all the people in these boats drug traffickers, since they've provided no evidence as such and some reports have them murdering civilians in those boats, not even heading for America at all!

Since your MAGA strike team murders, have provided no evidence they were drug runners, why would I assume they were. And even if they were, it still murde! Just like you and I, they have the right to due process!

The dam is breaking, as this lying traitor who now feels free to start telling the truth acknowledges:

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-dam-breaking-republican-party-trump[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042494]For all your rants on Bill Gates, when did anyone with an once of renewable, clean energy and green environmental savvy ever turn to Bill Gates, as an expert person for that intelligent knowledge space?[/QUOTE]God, you are factually challenged. "How to Avoid a Climate Disaster: The Solutions We Have and the Breakthroughs We Need" is a 2021 book by Bill Gates that outlines a comprehensive plan to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 to prevent a climate catastrophe.

Four years later, and Gates has totally changed his mind.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042494]So while you pose a interesting question, that takes "the race to AI success" and boil it down to a two-horse race, between the USA And China, based of electricity prices, unfortunately not buying into your premise that electricity prices, even close to being a key factor, let alone a mitigating factor. I think your argument is weak and flawed.[/QUOTE]And here we go again with your personalizing an argument versus my restating the opinions of others. You do this literally with if not every post then every other post.

[URL]https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/americas-ai-dominance-depends-winning-power-race-against-china-energy-expert-warns[/URL]

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/markledain/2025/10/27/the-ai-race-is-an-energy-race-and-regions-with-gas-are-winning/[/URL]

[URL]https://ig.ft.com/ai-power/[/URL]

Huang Says AI's Growth Hinges On Solving The Energy Crunch.

In an episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," Huang said the rapid expansion of AI is running headfirst into a new kind of limitation: power.

When Rogan asked whether energy has become the biggest hurdle for AI, Huang didn't hesitate. "It's the bottleneck," he said, highlighting that the availability of electricity, not the availability of GPUs, will determine how far and fast the industry can scale.

Go to the 3:52 mark here and you can see why wind and solar do not work with AI data centers: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpEEDnV1gXw[/URL].

At the beginning of this video, Zeihan said everyone was in agreement with what needs to be done. I repeat everyone but you and Algore.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042512]Thanks again impart to President Joe Biden's IRA Clean Energy bill initiatives. And best of all no moronic unnecessary "Drill-Baby-Drill", thanks to clean green renewable energy out-of-the-box thinking. I would even venture to image, it even has, residential block and community based heating applications or possibly heating their buildings.

P.S BTW, Bill Gates is a major contributor and backer to this clean green energy company. As far as I'm concerned with Bill Gates, I'll let his millions in clean green investments do the talking![/QUOTE]This is what I mean. You just see what you want. Bill Gates' Microsoft and its data centers will be powered by coal. Trump knows oil and gas are not going to be what powers data centers. That is why Gates backed off his zero carbon climate change bullshit and drill baby drill is irrelevant. You are way late in your thinking again.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042512]And good luck charging your car battery (lead-ion??) Every day. Have you thought about a heat pump and a Li-ion batter power station?

Sorry but I'm unable to follow your train of thought. Do you want to debate the adv/disadv of solar/batteries?[/QUOTE]Of course, you cannot follow. You are stuck on Biden good, solar good, lithium good, fossil fuel bad. It is why Tiny and Subcommander gave up on you.

The cost of a solar powered system using batteries and a heat pump is in the range of $2000 to $5000 installed and the batteries add hundreds of pounds to the weight of the RV. All the other methods (lead acid batteries, propane heat, electric heat with a generator burning gasoline, propane, or diesel) run at most for $2 a night.

Ah yes, but solar is free right and carbon neutral? No, you are burning more fossil fuel when you carry all that battery weight and once your batteries are exhausted if there is no sun, you have to go to shore power, plugging in a power cord, which is mostly generated via carbon sources. That is why carbon neutral is a fucking pipe dream.

I get the dream. You have an electric all wheel drive RV running on solar and battery. You can be cut off from the world and go wherever you want free from city sewage, water pipes, power lines, and internet cables.

And that is all it is, a dream because the batteries are just not good enough to compensate for when the wind stops blowing or the sun stops shining. The tech is just not there.

The irony is the carbon neutral vehicle that can be completely self-contained does exist. It is called a nuclear sub.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042594]Your sentiments were shared by former presidential candidate Herman Cain who is no longer with us. At the end of day was it worth it to not wear the mask?[/QUOTE]Unbelievable. You Dems learn nothing.

A 2023 Cochrane review found that wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory-confirmed influenza or SARS-CoV-2 infections.

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v4[/URL]

Among 53402 employees, 43920 (82.2%) were vaccinated by the end of the study. The cumulative incidence of influenza was similar for the vaccinated and unvaccinated states early, but over time the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/common-nasal-spray-may-prevent-covid-19-study[/URL]#COVID-19-risk-Comparing-nasal-spray-vs-placebo.

Researchers say people using a common allergy nasal spray, azelastine, were 69% less likely to contract COVID-19.

Participants in the trial were also 71% less likely to catch the common cold than placebo users.

In a clinical trial of healthy adults, people who used azelastine nasal spray (Astepro, Astelin) regularly for nearly two months were significantly less likely to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) compared to those who used a placebo.

The spray, widely available over-the-counter for allergic rhinitis (hay fever), also appeared to reduce some other respiratory infections, with only mild side effects reported. The findings were published online on September 2 in JAMA Internal MedicineTrusted Source.

This is global warming all over again. You got these so called "scientists" twisting themselves into pretzels justifying their POV when the data blows up in their faces. When the data went against them, these "scientists" played the name game and changed global warming to climate change and changed the definition of a vaccine with Covid. And just like with global warming and Covid, the population will turn on these so called "scientists" once a critical mass of people see how they have been led off a cliff.

There is never any Democrats asking questions like, "Hey, Fauci, why weren't you doing studies on therapeutics like azelastine during the pandemic when so many doctors like Malone and McCollough told you to? Why didn't you listen to them versus having them banned from social media? Was it because you and your NIH buddies wanted to cash in on your vaccines that quit working after six months?" The best case scenario is Fauci was stupid; the worst is he was corrupt. But you dumb Dems in your ignorance still worship him.

Yep, there is no doubt in the mind of Dems that masks and vaccines work despite what the data says.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3037113]But for Barack Obama there never would have been the rise of MAGA and a Chump presidency, America's angry and fearful backlash to a man of color having served 8 successive years as president of the Republic and leader of the free world. Take our (white) country back again![/QUOTE]338 million Americans owe you a heart felt thank you for your filthy votes in 2008 and 2016 we wouldn't have Bad Orange Man w / o you!!

Bless Your Heart.

In addition to the utterly predictable crap Repub / Trump economic and jobs creation numbers, Trillions added to Trump's deficits with zero to show for it in the economy, the rising unemployment rate and inflation rate and 30 year mortgage rate, this has nothing but the usual disastrous Trump Shit-and-Die Touch outcome written all over it.

Oh well. We tried. Harris tried. Good luck with this:

[B]Trump tariffs: Small businesses take on high-rate loans to cover new costs[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/17/trump-trade-tariffs-business-loans.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]New tariffs imposed this year by President Donald Trump have increased operating costs for small businesses that have to pay the import duties.

Some of those companies are taking on loans with high interest rates to cover that cost.

I honestly feel the government is putting me out of business, said an owner of a New York toy company. The tariffs are anti-American Dream.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3042782]In addition to the utterly predictable crap Repub / Trump economic and jobs creation numbers, Trillions added to Trump's deficits with zero to show for it in the economy, the rising unemployment rate and inflation rate and 30 year mortgage rate, this has nothing but the usual disastrous Trump Shit-and-Die Touch outcome written all over it.

Oh well. We tried. Harris tried. Good luck with this:

[B]Trump tariffs: Small businesses take on high-rate loans to cover new costs[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/17/trump-trade-tariffs-business-loans.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]The very simple logic of Trump: Everything is good for me = Everything is good for everyone.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042671]Good rant and truth be told, I did enjoy a good chuckle over your strawman arguments, but really, for all your barking about cocaine and fentanyl, it's tad bit funny, you still don't seem to understand [B]the basic concept of being lied to,[/B] by FOXY MUSE and your MAGA Fuhrer, about fentanyl coming out of Venezuela, when they're NOT! This matters, since fentanyl, distributed mainly out of Mexico and China, is what is being attributed to most drug deaths in America.

It's so hilarious, how you gullible MAGA suckers, again and again, buy into your MAGA Fuhrer's lies, corruption and pretexts, to whip-up support for an illegal attack on Venezuela, with some "narco terrorist" bullshit (just like the war on Iraq), for some personal vendetta and "Drill-Baby-Drill" unlawful and illegal capture of Venezuelan state oil and property. It's sad really!

Hey, it's not like you MAGA suckers, don't just show up looking [B][i]"stupid", "foolish""[/i][/B] and just [I][b]"weaklings",[/b][/I] after years of your MAGA Fuhrer, repeatedly telling you this. I don't need to do a thing.[/QUOTE]Ok, lets pretend there are no drug dealers in Venezuela LOL. Do you are agree with how Maduro has ran his nation? Do you consider him a dictator? How many millions of people have fled Venezuela in the last 10 years?

If you condone all the things Maduro has done, then what is the end game for Republicans? They are just using the USA Military to steal oil from Venezuela? Explain the logic behind your reasoning because it just doesn't make sense to me.

I see Maduro as a dictator who is just a step above Hitler. He has massively impoverished and ostricized an entire nation. He is using the military to stay in power at the expense of the people of his country. I see it no other way. I have no problem with the USA over throwing his regime and forcing Venezuela to play ball with the rest of the free world. The days of hermit nations have been over for centuries and a nation with one of the world's largest energy reserves is not going to hoard it's oil and starve it's people while a dictator lives like a billionaire and fights with the rest of the world. A few dead drug dealers used as a false flag attack is a small price to pay for cheaper global energy prices and freedom and a decent quality of life for the people of Venezuela. And for the record they were absolutely drug dealers poisoning Americans so the false flag attack isn't even necessary. But, I still would have no problem if the USA did pull a false flag attack to fight the evil regime of Maduro. The sickest man of the 21th century by far. Maybe Putin takes first, but its close.

[URL]https://www.unrefugees.org/emergencies/venezuela/[/URL]

7.7 million people have fled the country since 2015. Only a fucking paper thin skin snowflake baby back would support the Maduro regime. This is just another example of you favoring inhumane and illogical politics because a bully stole your lunch money once and you developed severe TDS. 7.7 million people fleeing the country clearly indicates Maduro needs to go. Put your politics aside and think as a human and have some compassion for a suffering nation of people. When Trump stated those comments about Reiner, I put politics aside because Trump is wrong and that rhetoric has no place for the Presidency. When those idiots ran through the white on Jan. 6, I immediately put politics aside to condemn their insane actions. I never see that from the TDS Dems like you though. Sick.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]God, you are factually challenged. "How to Avoid a Climate Disaster: The Solutions We Have and the Breakthroughs We Need" is a 2021 book by Bill Gates that outlines a comprehensive plan to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 to prevent a climate catastrophe.

Four years later, and Gates has totally changed his mind.[/QUOTE]Thanks for proving my point! You seem to be the only person that thinks Bill Gates, is an astute savvy intellectual on clean energy and green environmental issues, just because he wrote [B]a book[/B] on it.

Dude, get back to me when he's written over 15 books on the subject like Bill McKibben, or over 50 books like David Suzuki, and is internationally recognized as one of the top intellectual minds in the industry.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]And here we go again with your personalizing an argument versus my restating the opinions of others. You do this literally with if not every post then every other post.[/QUOTE]Oh brother! Once again, do I have to explain to you and others. That this is a debate! Your suppose to think for yourself and provide your opinions, facts and evidence and as well as those of others. But most importantly, you substantiate what you claim and not just provide baseless nonsense.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]Go to the 3:52 mark here and you can see why wind and solar do not work with AI data centers: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpEEDnV1gXw[/URL]

At the beginning of this video, Zeihan said everyone was in agreement with what needs to be done. I repeat everyone but you and Algore.[/QUOTE]Tell that to China, whose grid just reached 62% renewables!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]This is what I mean. You just see what you want. Bill Gates' Microsoft and its data centers will be powered by coal. Trump knows oil and gas are not going to be what powers data centers. That is why Gates backed off his zero carbon climate change bullshit and drill baby drill is irrelevant. You are way late in your thinking again.[/QUOTE]If [NOPARSE]under the current U.S. shit-show admin they want to power AI and data centers, with fossil fuels, then I like a said GOOD LUCK with that! Fossil fuels will no doubt be needed. I just like where the EU and China are, with their much higher energy mix ratio of renewables on their grids.

So while I'd rather see the U.S. provide more clean efficient electricity for AI/data centers, but if using fossil fuels makes more economic sense or you just have not other choice, then do what ya gotta do. As will China, I suspect. Although I'm betting China's clean/dirty electricity ratio and renewables scales of economy, will be better economically due to the fact they are further along with electrification of their [/NOPARSE]grid.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743][URL]https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/americas-ai-dominance-depends-winning-power-race-against-china-energy-expert-warns[/URL]

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/markledain/2025/10/27/the-ai-race-is-an-energy-race-and-regions-with-gas-are-winning/[/URL]

[URL]https://ig.ft.com/ai-power/[/URL]

Huang Says AI's Growth Hinges On Solving The Energy Crunch.

In an episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," Huang said the rapid expansion of AI is running headfirst into a new kind of limitation: power.

When Rogan asked whether energy has become the biggest hurdle for AI, Huang didn't hesitate. "It's the bottleneck," he said, highlighting that the availability of electricity, not the availability of GPUs, will determine how far and fast the industry can scale. [/QUOTE][B]Note[/B] how funny these articles just reek and scream of Oil & Gas, and are obviously written or funded by the fossil fuel industry.

AGAIN, while you think [U]electricity is the key[/U] to "winning the AI race", I DO NOT! Here why:

Just like Jensen Huang, I agree, the amount of electricity AI and data centers need, [I][b]"It's a bottleneck".[/b][/I] Or in other words, an impediment towards entering into, advanced AI development. But not "the key factor" for "winning" the AI race.

Dude, if you've read enough on AI and data centers, you'd realize or know, [B]what else[/B] is "a Bottleneck"? [B]...WATER![/B] So does that mean fresh water is key to "winning the AI race"? Or just like electricity, it's simply an impediment to entry, into AI race. [URL]https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/data-centers-and-water-consumption[/URL].

So if your entering the "AI race", you should think about, the security of your electricity and water needs, [I][b]...as the paid, up front "entrance fees",[/b][/I] for being in the race. That's it, they both should be considered as prerequisites! As there are other key factors that best determine, "who will win!

Yes, I think it is the key to entering and staying in the race, without first securing sufficient energy resources like funding, electricity and water (like most technology these days), AI development grinds to a halt. But all players in the "AI race", will have secured these resources / contracts prior to entering the race.

[B]Bottom Line:[/B] What you fail to realize, when posing your AI race question (when I rejected the premise), is that "winning the AI race", will mean different things, to different people. Ergo, is it any wonder why the fossil fuel industry, would love to frame it as, an "energy race"?

[B]P.S: [/B]BTW, [NOPARSE]for the winner(s), what does "winning the AI race", suppose to look like? The one with the most electricity generation? How will we know who's [/NOPARSE]won?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]Of course, you cannot follow. You are stuck on Biden good, solar good, lithium good, fossil fuel bad. [/QUOTE]I follow just fine thank you, if the person posing the question, knows how to properly frame a question.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]It is why Tiny and Subcommander gave up on you. [/QUOTE]Not sure what that has to do with anything, but that's funny, since from my POV, I'd thought they'd given up on YOU! [NOPARSE] Don't worry Elvis 2008, I haven't given up on you...YET![/NOPARSE].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]The cost of a solar powered system using batteries and a heat pump is in the range of $2000 to $5000 installed and the batteries add hundreds of pounds to the weight of the RV. All the other methods (lead acid batteries, propane heat, electric heat with a generator burning gasoline, propane, or diesel) run at most for $2 a night. [/QUOTE]Congratulations [NOPARSE]you've solved your problem then for a supposed $2/night? I'll do you one better, use an electric blanket for less than $0.50/nigh[/NOPARSE]t!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]Ah yes, but solar is free right and carbon neutral? No, you are burning more fossil fuel when you carry all that battery weight and once your batteries are exhausted if there is no sun, you have to go to shore power, plugging in a power cord, which is mostly generated via carbon sources. That is why carbon neutral is a fucking pipe dream.

I get the dream. You have an electric all wheel drive RV running on solar and battery. You can be cut off from the world and go wherever you want free from city sewage, water pipes, power lines, and internet cables.

And that is all it is, a dream because the batteries are just not good enough to compensate for when the wind stops blowing or the sun stops shining. The tech is just not there.

The irony is the carbon neutral vehicle that can be completely self-contained does exist. It is called a nuclear sub.[/QUOTE]So, am I [NOPARSE]to assume from that rant, solar doesn't work for you? That's okay, a RV solar/battery set up doesn't work for everyone, or within everyone's [/NOPARSE]budget.

It's okay, nothing wrong with sticking with fossil fuels! You do you, dude! What's important is, you stay nice and warm at nights!

But really, if you want more accurate answers or informational responses to your questions, that are related more to YOUR SPECIFIC circumstances, then you need to be more intentional with your questions.

What I'm saying is, I don't read minds! So unless YOU take the time to state your RV parameters, specifications, RV details or budgetary restrictions, to the question or problem (or any other), how would I know what solutions to present as viable, given your specific situation?

Check out YouTuber, [B]JerryRigEverything[/B] and the RV solar set he installed on his friend's RV, here:[B]EASIEST Off Grid RV Solar Power... just like a little Lego[/B] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO23RTRIVGU[/URL] This is probably [NOPARSE]nothing like your setup, but I present it, as an example of what can be done, where solar/batteries are the primary energy source and propane/gas generator is used as [/NOPARSE]backup.

So, if you want better answers, the onus is on you, [B]to better frame the question or the problem properly![/B].

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042876]But really, if you want more accurate answers or informational responses to your questions, that are related more to YOUR SPECIFIC circumstances, then you need to be more intentional with your questions.[/QUOTE]My parameters are not interesting. Everyone's parameters are what is important. For me, AC not heat is the most important. I can heat up the RV using the engine, using propane, using a space heater with lead acid batteries being charged by an alternator and solar. The AC is much more problematic. I will have access to shore power most of the time, but shore power will not run the AC. For that, I have to turn on the generator. Any problem with the generator and I am screwed.

If I wanted a cost effective AC unit, I would have a power station with a 48 volt battery connection hooked up to shore power or solar. Solar power is direct current. The most cost effective AC unit is 48 volts, but it is not the most powerful AC unit, and I want all in.

The two most powerful AC units are the Furron Chill Cube and the Ecopower Gree. I chose the Gree because it does heat as well. These units are quiet, energy efficient, and can get a RV down to 65 degrees in 100 degree heat. I equipped it with a soft starter, and I will be running it totally on its own via a power station with added batteries if need be. I should have access to shore power and can charge the power station via shore power. I will be adding solar though as the ultimate backup but just in case I do not have access to shore power. This is a thousand dollar backup plan that most people would do without.

That is my situation, and most people would just live with propane heat and generator AC as it is so much cheaper than what I am going to do.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042876]This is probably nothing like your setup, but I present it, as an example of what can be done, where solar/batteries are the primary energy source and propane/gas generator is used as backup.[/QUOTE]And I assume you like these guys think this is awesome? These guys seem to be impressed with themselves. "Everyone else I talk to that has solar they're like, oh you could run it max like one hour.

12:45 maybe two. " First off, these guys did not get a more efficient and quieter unit. They did not get an AC unit that runs on direct current nor did the get an A / see soft starter. Had they done so, they likely would have doubled the time their A / see could run.

Still, let's do a cost comparison as politically that is all that matters. These guys got 1,000 watts of solar power. They added on huge amounts of weight with all their equipment and still have a generator backup. Their system, which they got for free, costs $3500 and you would add in another few grand in installation fees.

In comparison, a generator does between 3000 and 4000 watts and costs dollars a day to run. And granted these guys are in Idaho, but what good is 9 hours of AC when it is 100 degrees out?

Unless you turn everything off and are peak sunny hours, you are much more likely to use shore power to charge your batteries, and shore power is half fossil fuels. Yes, you have solar AC for 9 hours and the other 15 are fossil fuel driven. Chances are that $5000 you are paying for "free energy" is going to end up being much more expensive than generator power.

So solar energy is not good for data centers, and it has zero chance of being carbon free generation. Solar makes sense in a few places. If the power goes out, and I have my solar panels with battery backup, I am probably going to be good until the power comes on.

But the reason their AC was on for more than an hour was not due to solar power. The gains were made via cheaper mass produced batteries and more efficient AC units. The battery cost was like 10 X this a few years ago.

Solar and wind are still more expensive than natural gas and coal, [URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63485[/URL] although there may be some sunny and windy places where that is not true, but you Democrats with the Biden plan pushed solar and wind down everyone's throat when you said the planet was going to end if fossil fuels were used.

You guys even pushed it in New England, [URL]https://energybadboys.substack.com/p/wind-and-solar-up-to-12-times-more[/URL] "The true cost of wind and solar energy in New England is not competitive with that of natural gas. This is especially true for offshore wind, which, according to our modeling, will be twelve times more expensive than combined cycle (CC) natural gas in the region. This week we're going to show how the all-in cost of wind and solar energy in New England will be anywhere from six to twelve times more expensive in 2050 than the cost of existing natural gas when accounting for the cost of maintaining reliability. ".

That is stupid, and Germany was doing the same thing. Germany was doing solar while China is burning cheap coal, and the idiotic German government said that was okay, and you think what Germany is doing is great.

It just blows me away how binary you Dems are: solar good, fossil fuels bad, masks good, ivermectin bad, Biden angel, Trump devil. Dems have zero and I mean zero cost-benefit analysis skills.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3042782]In addition to the utterly predictable crap Repub / Trump economic and jobs creation numbers, Trillions added to Trump's deficits with zero to show for it in the economy, the rising unemployment rate and inflation rate and 30 year mortgage rate, this has nothing but the usual disastrous Trump Shit-and-Die Touch outcome written all over it.[/QUOTE]The first time I noticed where politics really mattered was driving. I left Chicago and entered Indiana. The roads changed from pothole ridden hell holes that signaled the apocalypse was near to smooth as silk pavement. I shook my head and thought, "Why does poor Indiana have better roads than rich Chicago?" I saw the same when traveling from NYC to New Jersey. NJ's roads were good. NYC's roads were hell, and this was like 20 years ago. I doubt things have changed.

I got a chance to see a part of the country. The RV I bought was in Utah. The Salt Lake City airport was newly added on to, massive, and so clean you could eat off the floor. I remember the American Idol crew going to Utah and saying how nice the people were, and I saw the same thing. People seemed friendly and happy. I was there decades ago and the city has grown like a weed.

Buying the RV was a snap. I was in and out of the dealer in like 20 minutes and then I hit the road. I did not notice it at the time but the roads were good. I wanted to go South as quickly as I could on my route back to Texas so even though google told me to go through Colorado, I headed South for Alberquerque. Still, I was in Colorado for an hour and noticed immediately the roads went down in quality not Indiana to Chicago bad, maybe half of that.

Then I hit New Mexico and I am shocked I did not blow a tire. Utah to New Mexico was Indiana to Chicago bad. I did hit a few decent roads, but New Mexico was the pits. And then came Texas and the roads went back to being smooth as silk. Were these shitty roads really due to Colorado and New Mexico being blue states?

I pulled into the amazing Buccee's store in Amarillo, Texas. Now that is an interesting story of a great Texas entrepreneur, but anyway, I looked at how much the gas cost and did a double take, [URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/station/212232[/URL]

Gas is $1.86 per gallon there.

I talked to a friend of mine who was just in California. He confirmed the roads in San Diego were shit too, and said the gas was nearly $5 a gallon. Gas Buddy shows a decent price is $4. 55 in the San Diego area. [URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/la-jolla[/URL]

Now there are some regional reasons for the difference in prices but the big one as everyone knows is taxes. Thing is everyone knows what is going on. The California pols are taking the gasoline tax money and paying people to vote for them and neglecting their roads. I am sure Texas has its own version of that, but it is nowhere near as bad.

If people saw the roads and gas prices / taxes like I did, the Democrats would not get one fucking vote in an election. Not one. That is why they have to lie and demonize Republicans and Trump. They want to scare people so badly as to not to believe their own eyes.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-secret-that-the-dnc-must-never-reveal-why-they-lost-the-2024-elections/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042951]The first time I noticed where politics really mattered was driving. I left Chicago and entered Indiana. The roads changed from pothole ridden hell holes...
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I talked to a friend of mine who was just in California. He confirmed the roads in San Diego were shit too, and said the gas was nearly $5 a gallon. Gas Buddy shows a decent price is $4. 55 in the San Diego area. [URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/la-jolla[/URL]

Now there are some regional reasons for the difference in prices but the big one as everyone knows is taxes. [B]Thing is everyone knows what is going on. The California pols are taking the gasoline tax money and paying people to vote for them and neglecting their roads.[/b] I am sure Texas has its own version of that, but it is nowhere near as bad.

If people saw the roads and gas prices / taxes like I did, the Democrats would not get one fucking vote in an election. Not one. That is why they have to lie and demonize Republicans and Trump. They want to scare people so badly as to not to believe their own eyes.[/QUOTE]Says the Repub cult follower whose lord and savior is once again proposing that Congress send tax-funded emergency welfare checks out to voters with his name on them so as to ease some of the pain that his typical Repub crap economic policy and stewardship results have caused America. And do it in a hurry before next year's midterm elections hand his Party its ass and thereby puts an end to at least some of that pain.

Uh. If every American was offered a job in San Diego that afforded them a beach-side home in San Diego, La Jolla or any number of those beach-side neighborhoods, most of them would pack up Granny, Jethro, Elle May and the rocking chair and drive their pick-up through 1000 miles of potholes to get the hell out of Hootervile and Dead Man's Gulch to get to it.

The instant Trump tried to publicly humiliate and then fired the BLS official who dared to report the accurate Trump crap jobs or inflation numbers, the game changed for him and other Repub so-called presidents forever; from that moment on any good, "just ok" numbers like these or bad numbers reported must necessarily be assumed to have been doctored and massaged to appear much better than they really are.

[B]Trust these numbers? Economists see a lot of flaws in delayed CPI report[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/18/trust-these-numbers-economists-see-a-lot-of-flaws-in-delayed-cpi-report-showing-downward-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Economists are viewing the delayed November consumer price index report with a dose of skepticism.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the annual headline inflation rate and core CPI rate for last month were 2.7% and 2.6%, respectively, well below expectations.

A chief point of concern is the way housing inflation was calculated, specifically the owners equivalent rent figure for November.[/QUOTE]As a fortunate landlord in a desirable neighborhood of a highly desirable Greater Metropolitan Blue City Area in a highly desirable Great Blue State, I can assure you rents increased a hell of a lot more than 3% in October, November and for all of 2025 vs 2024. But unless BLS officials are granted total immunity from attacks and retribution by Repub so-called presidents who insist that all jobs and inflation reports be doctored and massaged in order to make them look much, much better than they really are under their policies and stewardship, no economist, investor or project director can rely on a thing they report when a Repub is in the White House.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043004]Says the Repub cult follower whose lord and savior is once again proposing that Congress send tax-funded emergency welfare checks out to voters with his name on them so as to ease some of the pain that his typical Repub crap economic policy and stewardship results have caused America. And do it in a hurry before next year's midterm elections hand his Party its ass and thereby puts an end to at least some of that pain.[/QUOTE]Typical Democrat. You cannot even admit it is wrong. All you losers ever say is, "Well, you guys do it too!" My new definition of a loser is someone who does something terrible and points to someone else and says, "But he is worse!" Yeesh.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043004]Uh. If every American was offered a job in San Diego that afforded them a beach-side home in San Diego, La Jolla or any number of those beach-side neighborhoods, most of them would pack up Granny, Jethro, Elle May and the rocking chair and drive their pick-up through 1000 miles of potholes to get the hell out of Hootervile and Dead Man's Gulch to get to it.[/QUOTE]Man, talk about your California cockiness right there and from a guy living in Thailand. You are such a hypocrite and a foolish one at that. This American has been to Amarillo, San Diego, and driven from Tijuana down to Ensanada. Amarillo sits near the 7 milllion BPD Permian basin oil region. The world's beef prices are set in nearby Hereford. Milk production in the region would rank third nationally and that region is #1 in the world in cotton production. And the city, the largest in has just 200,000 residents. It is fucking drenched with money.

A guy in Amarillo making $100 k a year can buy a home and save money. For San Diego, a $100 k is like a living wage. You cannot afford a home there or save any money making that in San Diego.

Ah, but Elvis, you are missing the climate, the quality of life in San Diego. Oh, fuck that! An oceanside condo in San Diego will run you $3 million. Once you cross the border and go to nearby Roasarito on the Mexican side, the condos cost 10% of that, and I think the food, quality of life, roads and beauty are nicer in Rosarito and Baja than San Diego.

Hell, on the way down, you can stop at Hong Kong in Tijuana and bang a 10 for $150. If you can find a 10 type in San Diego, that too will cost you 10 X that amount of Baja and if she consents and gets paid and later feels badly about having sex with you, she can accuse you of rape. That is the California justice system for you.

Every American would rather split time and work in Amarillo and play in Baja than live in the homeless infested, overpriced, poorly kept up, taxed to death shit hole that is San Diego. Or rather every American who has been to these places.
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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3042989][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-secret-that-the-dnc-must-never-reveal-why-they-lost-the-2024-elections/[/URL][/QUOTE]I can tell you the summery of the report.

"The American people really really hate Democrats" at least those of us with a brain and a soul.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042941]My parameters are not interesting. Everyone's parameters are what is important. For me, AC not heat is the most important. I can heat up the RV using the engine, using propane, using a space heater with lead acid batteries being charged by an alternator and solar. The AC is much more problematic. I will have access to shore power most of the time, but shore power will not run the AC. For that, I have to turn on the generator. Any problem with the generator and I am screwed.

If I wanted a cost effective AC unit, I would have a power station with a 48 volt battery connection hooked up to shore power or solar. Solar power is direct current. The most cost effective AC unit is 48 volts, but it is not the most powerful AC unit, [b]and I want all in.[/b][/QUOTE]It's to [NOPARSE]bad you can't get a solar/battery and AC configuration to work for you, at the price point you want. But there's no shame that, if sticking with fossil fuels for power generation works for you and battery weight is problematic. But make no mistake about it, there are plenty of RVers (and YouTubers making it work, just fine for them), that are boondocking on solar/battery/AC systems, more than 80-90% (and some 100%) of the time [/NOPARSE]off gird, with minimal to very little shore power usage.

They [NOPARSE]may have slightly bigger budgets than you, for their RV solar/battery/AC setups, but again, you never specified any budgetary constraints when you posed your question. And since you're always bragging and portraying [/NOPARSE]yourself [B]as the "Paycheck Superhero",[/B] so why would I assume, you couldn't afford such a RV setup?

[B]For example,[/B] with a setup of 1200 w of solar, 2 x 300 Ah Epoch Lithium Batteries, 3000 w Victron (AC to DC) Inverter, AC soft start kit, the YouTuber "SolarPowerMyRV" (Denver, CO), gives a real world RV example of running your AC unit off solar and ask the question, can RV Air Conditioner run on Solar Power? [B]Real World Demo (2:22 min)[/B] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLgiXVnbQBs[/URL], Mar 21,2025. With no battery weight issues, at all!

Not sure of the costs associated with "SolarPowerMyRV"'s setup was, but in other DIY RVers videos (ie. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-CWFRJq2k[/URL], We Attempted to DIY an [NOPARSE]RV Solar System with TILTING Panels (Cost Details!) 1,800w solar -- $14.5 K setup), yes the cost can be prohibitive, but these boondockers, all seem to say, in the end, it was worth it, and that the system paid for itself, as most are living off-grid (or without shore power), again, 80-90% of the [/NOPARSE]time.

Finally, many RVers, always seem come around and say, on of the same two (2) things. 1) wish I'd done solar sooner or 2) wish I'd put in more solar, if they started out small.

So if you're serious about [B]"...I want all in."[/B] it look like you're going to have to fork out some coin!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042941]So solar energy is not good for data centers, and it has zero chance of being carbon free generation. Solar makes sense in a few places.[/QUOTE]Again, [NOPARSE]tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid...yet, but just like South Australia that are now at 78% renewables grid, both have efforts and planning in place, that move them in the right direction of the flexible and resilient energy grids of tomorrow.

The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, [/NOPARSE]is a direction!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042941]Solar and wind are still more expensive than natural gas and coal, [URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63485[/URL] although there may be some sunny and windy places where that is not true, but you Democrats with the Biden plan pushed solar and wind down everyone's throat when you said the planet was going to end if fossil fuels were used.[/QUOTE]Nice try, [NOPARSE] but that old U.S. EIA report from 2024, you are trying to pawn-off as recent data/info as the current cheapest sources energy, isn't going to cut-it. But it was a nice try!

Here are 2025 update reports on Solar and Wind, being the cheapest forms of energy:

1) In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for [/NOPARSE]offshore wind, [B]$29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar.[/B] Aug. 25,2025 [URL]https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/environment/2025/08/25/are-wind-and-solar-responsible-for-higher-electricity-prices[/URL].

2) 91% of New Renewable Projects Now Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels Alternatives, 22 July, 2025 [URL]https://www.irena.org/News/pressreleases/2025/Jul/91-Percent-of-New-Renewable-Projects-Now-Cheaper-Than-Fossil-Fuels-Alternatives[/URL] The IRENA data shows, the cost advantage for new solar and wind is not marginal, but often by a whooping 40-50%.

3) Solar Now the World's Cheapest Energy, Powering the Clean Transition, October 9, 2025 [URL]https://carboncredits.com/solar-now-the-worlds-cheapest-energy-powering-the-clean-transition/[/URL] Solar [NOPARSE]energy has officially claimed the title of the world’s most affordable source of electricity. According to new research from the University of Surrey’s Advanced Technology Institute (ATI), solar power now costs as little as £0.02 per kilowatt-hour in the sunniest [/NOPARSE]regions.

And why TAXPAYERS will be the only ones paying the cost, the MAGA Fuhrer's failed energy policies, for money losing coal mines, just like our $40 bn right-wing welfare to farmers:

4) The [NOPARSE]U.S. Department of Energy is keeping unprofitable coal power plants alive despite massive financial losses, citing grid reliability and energy security. $3.1bn annual cost estimated for fossil fuel plants DOE won’t allow to retire. One coal plant owner reported it spent $29 million in the first 38 days of an Energy Department order to keep it online. Aug. 14, 2025 • Updated Aug. 18, [/NOPARSE]2025 [URL]https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-mandate-fossil-fueled-power-plants-emergency/757653/[/URL]

I'm really proud EU and also big thanks to Canada and Norway, keep on big support to so courageous Ukrainians, with 90 billions more, versus criminal Putin, not sucking him like MAGA USA.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043004]Says the Repub cult follower whose lord and savior is once again proposing that Congress send tax-funded emergency welfare checks out to voters with his name on them so as to ease some of the pain that his typical Repub crap economic policy and stewardship results have caused America. And do it in a hurry before next year's midterm elections hand his Party its ass and thereby puts an end to at least some of that pain.

Uh. If every American was offered a job in San Diego that afforded them a beach-side home in San Diego, La Jolla or any number of those beach-side neighborhoods, [b]most of them would pack up Granny, Jethro, Elle May and the rocking chair and drive their pick-up through 1000 miles of potholes to get the hell out of Hootervile and Dead Man's Gulch to get to it.[/b][/QUOTE]Funny Stuff! Thanks for the belly ache, laughs and chuckles, on that great blast from the past 60's TV show, The Beverly Hillbillies, anecdotal reference. I got to admit, the show was a perennial favorite in our household growing up. You should have heard the laughter from my dad, while he'd be watching the show. [NOPARSE]Of course Granny Clampett, was his favorite character.

Yeah, god trip down memory line, albeit rendered through the lens of a 1000 miles of potholes...nevertheless, thank[/NOPARSE]s!

But speaking of knee-slapping, good ol' country blithering senile old grannies, that once TV shows, what the hell kinda year-end speech, to address the nation, what that last night from the MAGA Fuhrer?

I mean, all anyone heard, was BIDEN, BIDEN, BIDEN for 20-minutes! I guess in Trumpland parlance, it must sound an awful lot like, [B]the senile MAGA Fuhrer is suffering from BDS![/B]

So the BLS officials got to keep their job as long as they put out the BS numbers that help make Trump look like less of a total numbskull failure came out first to give him his BS soundbite and talking point. Similar to when Trump's Lying AG Bill Barr jumped out in front of the Russia Russia Russia Mueller Investigation Report and lie about what that actually discovered.

[B]NY Fed's Williams says some 'technical factors' distorted November's CPI reading[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/19/ny-fed-president-williams-says-some-technical-factors-distorted-novembers-cpi-reading-downward.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]"There were some special factors of practical factors that really are related to the fact that they werent able to collect date in October and not in the first half of November, Williams said.

And because of that, I think the data were distorted in some of the categories, and that pushed down the CPI reading, probably by a tenth or so, Williams said on CNBCs Squawk Box.[/QUOTE]Oh, BTW, even with the BS about CPI being 2.7%/2. 6%, Trump and his America-hating cult followers are out there claiming those rates of inflation are "the lowest in 4 years"!

Uh. Nope. See the link and the screenshot of the chart below.

Even their BS numbers are no lower than the CPI was just last year around this same time under Joe Biden. Which was demonstrative proof it had declined dramatically from the Trump's Pandemic Rate of Inflation peak while Trump's current BS numbers made up to make him look better is demonstrative proof the rate of inflation has not declined at all since he took office. Obviously, the real rate was higher year-over-year.

[B]Consumer Price Index - October 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_11132024.pdf[/URL]

[QUOTE]Over the last 12 months, the all items index increased 2.6% before seasonal adjustment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043] In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for offshore wind, $29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar. Aug. 25,2025

2) 91% of New Renewable Projects Now Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels Alternatives, 22 July, 2025. The IRENA data shows, the cost advantage for new solar and wind is not marginal, but often by a whooping 40-50%

LOL Thanks for proving my point. If wind is "cheaper" then why is it more offshore? Better yet, given its costs, why are you even doing it?[/QUOTE]And your point on 2025 is what? Alternative energy was cheaper for one year. Does that mean they will be next year too? So you mean windmills, solar panels, oil, natural gas, natural gas turbines, and uranium are all going to stay fixed in price forever? You are doing the dumbshit Democratic shuffle, green good, fossil fuel bad. It is much more complicated than that. In fact, I bet you cannot even state my position. You probably think I am 100% totally drill, baby, drill and green energy bad. That is all your binary brain can comprehend.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, is a direction![/QUOTE]More binary brain.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]Again, tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid,[/QUOTE]And even more. That China has to import coal and oil while the USA does not has no meaning to your binary brain.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]It's to bad you can't get a solar/battery and AC configuration to work for you, at the price point you want.[/QUOTE]That is the exact opposite of what happened.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]But there's no shame that, if sticking with fossil fuels for power generation works for you and battery weight is problematic.[/QUOTE]Right, my batteries weigh more than other peoples.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]But make no mistake about it, there are plenty of RVers (and YouTubers making it work, just fine for them), that are boondocking on solar/battery/AC systems, more than 80-90% (and some 100%) of the time off gird, with minimal to very little shore power usage.[/QUOTE]LOL. We watched different videos. What I saw were guys generating 1,000 watts of power and their one refigerator used 70% of that power at peak sun. So, tell me, Spidy, how are these 80 to 100% of people getting by being off grid and at night? Are they going without AC or refigerators and if so, then what the hell is the point of a RV?

Your 80 to 100% number is pure bullshit. It is more of the same. When your binary brain fails, you just make shit up.

It is probably worthless in saying what I did because you read what you want. I had this great deal on a Tiffin RV. It is based on a Mercedes chassis that gets 15 mpg on average. What you do not get is I was determined to have two AC units and have one run off grid. I read all about AC units, power stations, solar panels, and I figured I could do it for ten grand. Now that was just for one AC unit to be free of shore power. My system blew the fuck out of those guys in your video, and like those guys, person after person said you need a generator for AC.

Thing is the Tiffin had a OCCC, Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity (OCCC) of six hundred pounds. That meant the RV could carry either my AC unit or me but not both, and that is with nothing else in the RV. And I weigh 220 lbs thank you very much.

The Winnebago had a 1,000 lbs of OCCC. Now I can carry two people and my AC uit and nothing else.

I am in Texas. The AC unit was more important than anything else so I researched more and went with the gas powered Ford chassis. OCCC on the RV I got is 2500 lbs, and I am going to put in my off grid AC unit as carrying capacity is no longer a real concern.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]So if you're serious about "...I want all in." it look like you're going to have to fork out some coin![/QUOTE]The Ford was half the price of the Mercedes. The cost is not there. Instead of getting 15 MPG though, I get 8 MPG. And this is what your binary brain cannot comprehend. To have an off grid AC unit meant MORE fossil fuels not less.

In my case, it would have been much more cost effective to get a bigger generator than a solar AC system. Thing is generators have to be maintained, break down, and are very loud. I was willing to pay more for batteries and solar to just be done with it. Still, it is going to be several hundreds pounds of batteries and equipment to run one AC unit 24/7 off of solar and even then when there is little sun, I will have to plug in to fossil fuel geneated shore power.

The generator needed to run two AC units is 5500 watts, and it can run 24/7 regardless of weather and power every electrical item in the RV. In comparison, in your video, those goofballs were bragging about 1000 watts of power at peak sun, which is about 4 hours per day, and they were trying to run everythng off of it which is completely bird brained.

If you can get a 4,000 watt battery that weighs ten pounds versus the 100 or so pounds it weighs now, then solar RVs make total sense. That solar powered RVs make no sense right now is something you just cannot get.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]Again, [NOPARSE]tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid...yet, but just like South Australia that are now at 78% renewables grid, both have efforts and planning in place, that move them in the right direction of the flexible and resilient energy grids of tomorrow.

The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, [/NOPARSE]is a direction!

Nice try, [NOPARSE] but that old U.S. EIA report from 2024, you are trying to pawn-off as recent data/info as the current cheapest sources energy, isn't going to cut-it. But it was a nice try!

Here are 2025 update reports on Solar and Wind, being the cheapest forms of energy:

1) In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for [/NOPARSE]offshore wind, [B]$29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar.[/B] Aug. 25,2025 [URL]https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/environment/2025/08/25/are-wind-and-solar-responsible-for-higher-electricity-prices[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043] And why TAXPAYERS will be the only ones paying the cost, the MAGA Fuhrer's failed energy policies, for money losing coal mines, just like our $40 bn right-wing welfare to farmers[/QUOTE]As I just showed in my RV example, the one size fits all electrical model is silly. The government forces utilities to charge on a per kilowatt basis. That makes no sense. If you are solar based, electricty generation is going to cost more at night. With wind, there is less demand at night. A dynamic pricing model would push the consumer to have their own power stations. You charge your power station during the day when solar is cheaper or at night when the decrease in demand would make wind cheaper. There is no incentive for personal power stations when you have fixed per killowatt pricing. There likely would be times and places where it is more cost effective for people to generate their own electricity via solar or wind than rely on their utility.

That you are married to your petrostate and electrostate model is more binary thinking, and one that is not cost effective to boot. The state does not need to control everything with electricity.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]Again, [NOPARSE]tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid...yet, but just like South Australia that are now at 78% renewables grid, both have efforts and planning in place, that move them in the right direction of the flexible and resilient energy grids of tomorrow.

The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, [/NOPARSE]is a direction!

Nice try, [NOPARSE] but that old U.S. EIA report from 2024, you are trying to pawn-off as recent data/info as the current cheapest sources energy, isn't going to cut-it. But it was a nice try!

Here are 2025 update reports on Solar and Wind, being the cheapest forms of energy:

1) In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for [/NOPARSE]offshore wind, [B]$29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar.[/B] Aug. 25,2025 [URL]https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/environment/2025/08/25/are-wind-and-solar-responsible-for-higher-electricity-prices[/URL].

2) 91% of New Renewable Projects Now Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels Alternatives, 22 July, 2025 [URL]https://www.irena.org/News/pressreleases/2025/Jul/91-Percent-of-New-Renewable-Projects-Now-Cheaper-Than-Fossil-Fuels-Alternatives[/URL] The IRENA data shows, the cost advantage for new solar and wind is not marginal, but often by a whooping 40-50%.[/QUOTE]Nope, Nuclear is cheapest and cleanest, and will greatly improve in the next decade or so. Solar and Wind is only effective in the right environment and takes up a massive amount of land. They wanted Wind Farms off the coast of New Jersey, Jersey said fuck off, massive waste of space and more expensive than the Nuclear plants we already have. Same thing with those solar roofs. Yea it knocks a few bucks off your bill, but the money you save off electricity will be added on to your insurance bill and it weakens your roof permanently from all the drilling into the rafters. Will be lucky if those roofs last 50 years before need reinforcement braces. And the worse part is it kills the value of your home and destroys resale value. Word is out on the solar scam and people don't want sky high insurance bills just to be green. Fuck Solar.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043066]Funny Stuff! Thanks for the belly ache, laughs and chuckles, on that great blast from the past 60's TV show, The Beverly Hillbillies, anecdotal reference. I got to admit, the show was a perennial favorite in our household growing up. You should have heard the laughter from my dad, while he'd be watching the show. [NOPARSE]Of course Granny Clampett, was his favorite character.

Yeah, god trip down memory line, albeit rendered through the lens of a 1000 miles of potholes...nevertheless, thank[/NOPARSE]s!

But speaking of knee-slapping, good ol' country blithering senile old grannies, that once TV shows, what the hell kinda year-end speech, to address the nation, what that last night from the MAGA Fuhrer?

I mean, all anyone heard, was BIDEN, BIDEN, BIDEN for 20-minutes! I guess in Trumpland parlance, it must sound an awful lot like, [B]the senile MAGA Fuhrer is suffering from BDS![/B][/QUOTE]Trump is hoping to have us focus on his fantasy that Biden's positive economic and national security results didn't and will not forever blow away his and every other Repub's horrific negative results. He does that as a constant distraction tactic for when, for instance, his latest grand and glorious announcement about drug-makers agreeing to lower their prices hadn't already been negotiated and accomplished for the vast majority of Americans who need those drugs in President Joe Biden's brilliant Inflation Reduction Act set to take effect more fully in 2026:

[B]Negotiated Prices Take Effect for Ten Drugs in 2026.
October 9, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/10/09/negotiated-prices-take-effect-for-ten-drugs-in-2026[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) of 2022 created a new ability for Medicare to negotiate prices for the most expensive drugs the program covers. The first set of negotiated drug prices will go into effect in 2026 and are estimated to save $1.5 billion in annual out-of-pocket costs for Medicare beneficiaries while saving the Medicare program $6 billion per year. The negotiated prices are a minimum of 38% off the 2023 list price.[/QUOTE]LOL. Oh look! Which is also after Trump jumped in with one of his first BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN distraction tactics by eliminating some of the drug price reductions President Joe Biden had already effected on "day one" of his 2nd disastrous presidential term:

[B]Trump Reverses Some Biden Drug Pricing Initiatives, Potentially Impacting Medicare Costs.[/B]

[URL]https://www.ajmc.com/view/trump-reverses-some-biden-drug-pricing-initiatives-potentially-impacting-medicare-costs[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald J. Trumps second-term health care agenda is taking shape with a clear focus on undoing several Biden-era policies.1 On Inauguration Day, January 20, 2025, Trump signed an executive order reversing initiatives aimed at reducing prescription drug costs for Medicare and Medicaid recipients, expanding the Affordable Care Act (ACA), and increasing protections for Medicaid enrollees.[/QUOTE]Lolol. So Liar Trump gets to. Waddle over to the nearest podium and virtually without one word of pushback and clarification by the lazy typically pro Repub Mainstream Media announce some blithering BS about how he saved America from higher drug prices after he rescinded BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN's accomplishment to dramatically lower drug prices for most American customers for those drugs and then take credit for future drug price reductions already negotiated and put into BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN's Inflation Reduction. Act to take effect in about 3 weeks anyway! Lolol.

Oh, except this time the MSM will stand in stoney silence while total numbskull Trump tells them he reduced drug prices by "400%, 500% and even 600%.

Lolol. Can't beat that. Well, unless you reduce the prices by "700% of course.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043119]Nope, Nuclear is cheapest and cleanest, and will greatly improve in the next decade or so. Solar and Wind is only effective in the right environment and takes up a massive amount of land. They wanted Wind Farms off the coast of New Jersey, Jersey said fuck off, massive waste of space and more expensive than the Nuclear plants we already have.[/QUOTE]Less lip service and [B]more facts, data and information[/B] that actually backups your idiotic nonsense. Can't wait to see the facts and evidence for cheap nuclear power?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043119]Same thing with those solar roofs. Yea it knocks a few bucks off your bill, but the money you save off electricity will be added on to your insurance bill and it weakens your roof permanently from all the drilling into the rafters. Will be lucky if those roofs last 50 years before need reinforcement braces. And the worse part is it kills the value of your home and destroys resale value. Word is out on the solar scam and people don't want sky high insurance bills just to be green. Fuck Solar.[/QUOTE]Tell that to the 7% of homes in the USA With rooftop solar. [URL]https://seia.org/solar-installations/[/URL] Or the +4-million households in Australia with rooftop solar. [URL]https://www.energy.gov.au/news/australia-hits-rooftop-solar-milestone[/URL]

Like I said above, less lip service and [B]more facts, data and information[/B] that actually backups your idiotic nonsense. It's easy to flap your gums, but provide real facts why don't ya, so readers can sink there teeth into some real factual information and not just baseless opinions.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090]Right, my batteries weigh more than other peoples.[/QUOTE]I donno, you tell me!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090]LOL. We watched different videos. What I saw were guys generating 1,000 watts of power and their one refigerator used 70% of that power at peak sun. So, tell me, Spidy, how are these 80 to 100% of people getting by being off grid and at night? Are they going without AC or refigerators and if so, then what the hell is the point of a RV?

Your 80 to 100% number is pure bullshit. It is more of the same. When your binary brain fails, you just make shit up.[/QUOTE]Dude, [B]don't hate,[/B] just because others can boondock 80-90% of the time (and 100% in some cases) and it works for them. Not everyone does RVing the same way!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090]It is probably worthless in saying what I did because you read what you want. ...

The Winnebago had a 1,000 lbs of OCCC. Now I can carry two people and my AC uit and nothing else. ...

I am in Texas. The AC unit was more important than anything else so I researched more and went with the gas powered Ford chassis. OCCC on the RV I got is 2500 lbs, and I am going to put in my off grid AC unit as carrying capacity is no longer a real concern. ...

... That solar powered RVs make no sense right now is something you just cannot get.[/QUOTE]Dude, [NOPARSE]you've already made up you mind solar and batteries aren't going to work for you,...so don't sweat it.

Like I said, there is no shame, in sticking to fossil [/NOPARSE]fuels!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090]And your point on 2025 is what? [/QUOTE]Duh, can you be anymore dense! The point is, it's Dec 2025 (not July 2024) and the cheapest energy new builds, is solar and wind. Perhaps you're still living in 2024, most of rest of us, are not. Or is the concept of updated data and information, not mean anything to MAGA suckers!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090]Alternative energy was cheaper for one year. Does that mean they will be next year too? So you mean windmills, solar panels, oil, natural gas, natural gas turbines, and uranium are all going to stay fixed in price forever?[/QUOTE]Dunno, maybe? I think maybe they will for near-to-mid term distant future! But, you can always make similar dumbass assumptions again, in a year from now, if you're really that ignorant?

So far, all I hear is more lip service. Why is it MAGA suckers, are all just so good at lip service? But not so much when it comes to proof. Where's your evidence it won't be the cheapest?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090] You are doing the dumbshit Democratic shuffle, green good, fossil fuel bad. It is much more complicated than that. In fact, I bet you cannot even state my position. You probably think I am 100% totally drill, baby, drill and green energy bad. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043090]And even more. That China has to import coal and oil while the USA does not [/QUOTE]Totally understandable, considering for decades now, most of the world has offloaded manufacturing to China, and made them the manufacturer to the world.

Consider it a necessary part of their manufacturing economy, so that spoiled privileged westerners (like yourself), can still get their cheap $1000 iPhones.

[U]Solar and Wind is Cheaper than Fossil Fuels:[/U]

Based on recent industry reports, solar and wind are not only the cheapest new build energy sources as of today, but also have a strong economic trajectory and look to maintain their cost leadership in the future. [U]Multiple analyses from financial and energy research institutions confirm this outlook.[/U]. [B]91% of New Renewable Projects Now Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels Alternatives,[/B] Jul 2025. [URL]https://www.irena.org/News/pressreleases/2025/Jul/91-Percent-of-New-Renewable-Projects-Now-Cheaper-Than-Fossil-Fuels-Alternatives[/URL].

Less LIP SERVICE and factual information and analysis!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043119]Nope, Nuclear is cheapest and cleanest...[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, the debate is referring to the cheapest new project energy source builds.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043092]As I just showed in my RV example, the one size fits all electrical model is silly. The government forces utilities to charge on a per kilowatt basis. That makes no sense. If you are solar based, electricty generation is going to cost more at night. With wind, there is less demand at night. A dynamic pricing model would push the consumer to have their own power stations. You charge your power station during the day when solar is cheaper or at night when the decrease in demand would make wind cheaper. There is no incentive for personal power stations when you have fixed per killowatt pricing. There likely would be times and places where it is more cost effective for people to generate their own electricity via solar or wind than rely on their utility. [QUOTE]Sure, if you say so! But why not, if it works for you!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043092]That you are married to your petrostate and electrostate model is more binary thinking, and one that is not cost effective to boot. [be]The state[ / be] does not need to control everything with electricity. [/QUOTE] Clearly you've yet to grasp the concept of [be]Electrostate vs. Petrostate[ / be] That okay too!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043198]Less lip service and [B]more facts, data and information[/B] that actually backups your idiotic nonsense. Can't wait to see the facts and evidence for cheap nuclear power?

Tell that to the 7% of homes in the USA With rooftop solar. [URL]https://seia.org/solar-installations/[/URL] Or the +4-million households in Australia with rooftop solar. [URL]https://www.energy.gov.au/news/australia-hits-rooftop-solar-milestone[/URL]

Like I said above, less lip service and [B]more facts, data and information[/B] that actually backups your idiotic nonsense. It's easy to flap your gums, but provide real facts why don't ya, so readers can sink there teeth into some real factual information and not just baseless opinions.[/QUOTE][URL]https://energy.sustainability-directory.com/learn/how-much-land-area-is-required-for-a-nuclear-power-plant-compared-to-a-solar-or-wind-farm-of-equivalent-capacity/[/URL]

On average, for every square mile of nuclear energy out put or roughly the size of a standard nuclear plant, THREE HUNDRED SQAURE MILES OF LAND IS NEEDED FOR WIND! 300! I don't need to post links, although I will for you because your too fucking lazy to research shit that you constantly claim to be an expert on, because I live in New Jersey and we just spent years fighting against wind farms off our shores. Jersey shore is essential to the New Jersey economy and they are trying to destroy it by placing senseless costly wind farms on our coastal areas when we can just stick with Nuclear which is cheaper and far cleaner and doesn't take up massive amounts of area.

This renewable energy bullshit is a slimy fucking scam from Liberals to take over the energy sector and then use that as leverage to control the masses. They have already done it with media. As anyone over 10 years old who can read the internet and knows how to use google already knows, the clear answer is Nuclear. There is no debate, it is completely unnecessary for 90% of the renewable energy sources out there.

Fight this green new deal scam bull shit and do what makes logical sense. Nuclear. Shut the fuck up with this electro state bull shit!

Oh, and you never responded on Maduro and Venezuela. Typical.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043119]Nope, Nuclear is cheapest and cleanest, and will greatly improve in the next decade or so. Solar and Wind is only effective in the right environment and takes up a massive amount of land.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is the part Spidy does not get. Using a power station and portable solar panels will probably pay for themselves in a year or two if you live in Arizona. If you live in the Midwest or East Coast, they are a complete fucking waste of money, and that is where the Dems look so stupid.

It is the same with electric cars. They are great for places with nice climates. When you go below freezing, you run into all kind of problems.

And for them, that is the part that is crazy. Reducing carbon based pollution makes sense. Saying you are going to get rid of in 30 years means you are out of your fucking mind and promoting China as a model on pollution, as Spidy has done, means you need to be put in an institution. These are not rational people; they are acting like they are in a cult.

And when these cult guys run out of facts, they just start making stuff up and engaging in the name calling. Spidy just shows a video where guys are bragging about solar powering a frig for six hours and that people are "boondocking" for days a time unplugged from the grid. How do you unplug from the grid where your fridge works for six hours at a time? His response is, "But yeah, they are doing it. "

Yes, there are now RVs without generators and loaded with batteries, and solar contributes some to their charging but you saw how little solar really does. The reality is that you charge the batteries via the alternator on your engine, more fossil fuels, or plugging into the grid, more fossil fuels. He just wants to believe that you can do a pure solar / electric RV when it does not exist.

I wasn't kidding when I said the only large carbon free vehicle is a nuclear sub, and we have had that technology for decades. What makes nuclear subs special is they do not have to surface for fuel for months, and you can therefore hide them much longer that subs burning fossil fuels. I get the political issues but if not for security issues, nuclear powered engines and RVs would make a helluva lot of sense.

I am just so sick of the whiplash the Dems have had with power generation my whole life. First, it was no nukes, no nukes. All the reactors were going to melt down and contaminate the planet. At the time, the reduction in nukes meant more coal. Then a decade or two later, all carbon based energy production was going to destroy the planet. Thanks to oil companies and shale drilling, much cleaner natural gas was substituted for coal and pollution went way down, but that was not good enough for the Dems. We asked, "Okay, Dems, if carbon based power generation is bad, then are nukes good now?" They would not answer the question. They just pushed for solar and wind.

I guess in Spidy's world he does not get that billionaires fund science projects that justify what they want. So when a guy like Bill Gates who is funding anti-carbon based energy generation flip flops, it is not one guy changing his mind. He is going to pay scientific experts to agree with him. Simplistically, the huge energy producer Texas is a red state. The big tech companies are in California, a blue state. So if you are a Dem, screwing up the profits of energy companies was good politics until now.

Now tech needs energy badly. If Microsoft does not have the power to generate its AI ventures, their stock will be crushed, and Bill Gates will lose billions. That is the obvious reason Bill Gates backed off his carbon based emissions will destroy the planet rhetoric and said "Hey, guys, that book I wrote about burning carbon ending the planet, just kidding!

So now we need huge amounts of electricity for data centers. First, you have to overcome the Spidy types who are going to say, "Well, gee, duh, why can't we use solar and wind?" and educate them on why that will not work. Nautral gas would be great but the supply chain is overloaded which leaves coal and nuclear.

My bet is that if you put 10 smart people in a room and gave them the choice between nuclear and coal, they would all pick nuclear. Thing is we have seen this movie before. Even when carbon based energy was going to wipe out the planet, I think there was only one new nuclear power plant built. Nuclear power is the most regulated industry in the country and the bureaucrats within that system wield the power to stop or slow down any project and there is little doubt in my mind, they will do just that.

So after all the Dems whining about nukes and meltdown, CO2 and global warming then CO2 and climate change, we are going to be left with the most polluting, dirty way to produce energy for the data centers AKA coal, and the one thing you can count on is the Dems will not own that they were wrong.

We just saw it was the mask fiasco with Covid. Fauci made up the maks and social distancing rules. They were not based on any science at all. Here is a headline and article on that very subject, [URL]https://torontosun.com/news/world/dr-anthony-fauci-admits-he-made-up-covids-social-distancing-measures-masking-rules[/URL].

And we just saw a Dem on here saying masks worked. He could read this news story and listen to Fauci's testimony, and my bet is that he still would not change his mind.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043279]Yeah, that is the part Spidy does not get. Using a power station and portable solar panels will probably pay for themselves in a year or two if you live in Arizona. If you live in the Midwest or East Coast, they are a complete fucking waste of money, and that is where the Dems look so stupid.

It is the same with electric cars. They are great for places with nice climates. When you go below freezing, you run into all kind of problems.

And for them, that is the part that is crazy. Reducing carbon based pollution makes sense. Saying you are going to get rid of in 30 years means you are out of your fucking mind and promoting China as a model on pollution, as Spidy has done, means you need to be put in an institution. These are not rational people; they are acting like they are in a cult.

And when these cult guys run out of facts, they just start making stuff up and engaging in the name calling. Spidy just shows a video where guys are bragging about solar powering a frig for six hours and that people are "boondocking" for days a time unplugged from the grid. How do you unplug from the grid where your fridge works for six hours at a time?.[/QUOTE]Change his mind LMFAO its not about that, they know they're wrong they just will never admit it, why? Because once you take your finger out of that dykes shit hole (Madcow) , they will be overwhelmed.

With more requests to admit they're wrong 24/7, why? Because they're always wrong. So their low self esteem MO is to never admit you're wrong.

Move along nothing to see here folks.

I fault you a bit for trying to reason with this fool, your discussions look like you're arguing with some mentally ill homeless bum on the subway.

None of these pathological lying cucksters have ANY credibility on anything here, because even when they're wrong and they know it, they won't admit it.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gunboat-diplomacy-accelerated-us-reportedly-interdicts-seizes-another-oil-tanker[/URL]

Long Live The Monroe Doctrine.

Allahu Akbar.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3043279]Yeah, that is the part Spidy does not get. Using a power station and portable solar panels will probably pay for themselves in a year or two if you live in Arizona. If you live in the Midwest or East Coast, they are a complete fucking waste of money, and that is where the Dems look so stupid.

It is the same with electric cars. They are great for places with nice climates. When you go below freezing, you run into all kind of problems.

And for them, that is the part that is crazy. Reducing carbon based pollution makes sense. Saying you are going to get rid of in 30 years means you are out of your fucking mind and promoting China as a model on pollution, as Spidy has done, means you need to be put in an institution. These are not rational people; they are acting like they are in a cult.

And when these cult guys run out of facts, they just start making stuff up and engaging in the name calling. Spidy just shows a video where guys are bragging about solar powering a frig for six hours and that people are "boondocking" for days a time unplugged from the grid. How do you unplug from the grid where your fridge works for six hours at a time? His response is, "But yeah, they are doing it. "

Yes, there are now RVs without generators and loaded with batteries, and solar contributes some to their charging but you saw how little solar really does. The reality is that you charge the batteries via the alternator on your engine, more fossil fuels, or plugging into the grid, more fossil fuels. He just wants to believe that you can do a pure solar / electric RV when it does not exist..[/QUOTE]Your post was very well articulated. These are the types of posts I trust because you can tell when reading the writer has study this subject and speaks from experience rather than just finding some left wing article with skewed statistics to prove a point and fulfill a political agenda.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043240][URL]https://energy.sustainability-directory.com/learn/how-much-land-area-is-required-for-a-nuclear-power-plant-compared-to-a-solar-or-wind-farm-of-equivalent-capacity/[/URL]

On average, for every square mile of nuclear energy out put or roughly the size of a standard nuclear plant, THREE HUNDRED SQAURE MILES OF LAND IS NEEDED FOR WIND! 300! [/QUOTE]Chuckles and more chuckles, as once again you prove, that you are incapable of even understanding the simplicity of question being debated.

What [NOPARSE]a fuckin' joke you are, when provide a very brief blob of article, that briefly talks about land efficiency and "How much land area nuclear vs solar & wind, is required". There is no mention of industry using this as the lowest cost of energy? Just freakin' hilarious, ..."land area"? ..."land [/NOPARSE]area"?

Since when do energy projects that are consider all forms of energy generation, to determine the lowest cost of producing energy, use "land area" as the determining factor?

Get back to me, when you have [U]a real answer[/U] to the debate question proposed? [I][b]What is currently (2025) the lowest cost of energy? [/b][/I].

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043308]Your post was very well articulated. These are the types of posts I trust because you can tell when reading the writer has study this subject and speaks from experience rather than just finding some left wing article with skewed statistics to prove a point and fulfill a political agenda.[/QUOTE]Why am [NOPARSE] I not surprised you understand Elvis 2008's Gish Gallop...Chuckles!...It like you're all speaking another foreign language, all your own. ie. MAGA [/NOPARSE]Speak!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043240][URL]https://energy.sustainability-directory.com/learn/how-much-land-area-is-required-for-a-nuclear-power-plant-compared-to-a-solar-or-wind-farm-of-equivalent-capacity/[/URL] [/QUOTE]BTW, Why [NOPARSE]doesn't your so called article on "low cost of energy", consider or factor in the the time of build/constru[/NOPARSE]ction?

The last nuclear plants in the USA The Vogtle Unit 4 and Vogtle Unit 3, both took just over 10 years to build. The last one before those nuclear plants, [B]the Watts Bar Unit, took a whopping 43 years to build.[/B] That's [NOPARSE]almost a freakin' half a century of what? Wasted energy? Ineptitude? Cost overruns? Compliance? MAGA like stoppage/sab[/NOPARSE]otage?

On average solar farms in the USA Take 8 to 18 months to build. Wind farms, about 6-months to 3 years, on average depending on scale.

Old fat orange is totally megaloman and senile making USA mostly ridiculous in front of the world.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3043305][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gunboat-diplomacy-accelerated-us-reportedly-interdicts-seizes-another-oil-tanker[/URL]

Long Live The Monroe Doctrine..[/QUOTE]Waiting in the on deck circle is CDMX.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/11/15/nx-s1-5608991/mexicos-new-generation-takes-to-the-streets-accusing-leaders-of-protecting-cartels[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3043304]I fault you a bit for trying to reason with this fool, your discussions look like you're arguing with some mentally ill homeless bum on the subway.[/QUOTE]LOL! Yeah, no doubt, that's where you get your so called debating skills from.

Speaking of arguing (or fighting) like bums on the subway.

Who better [NOPARSE] than the QAnon/MAGA/Repubs at a convention to portray such a grotesque and unruly sight. What a fiasco, as all the key MAGA faithless, lined up for a knuckle-dragging, knock-down and out [/NOPARSE]fight. [B]MAGA infighting erupts at Turning Point USA Conference,[/B] Dec 18,2025. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/18/maga-infighting-erupts-at-day-one-of-turning-point-usa-conference-00699665[/URL].

At the Turning Point USA Conference, civil war breaks out, as tensions explode as on the opening night, commentator Ben Shapiro launched a blistering attack from the stage, labeling fellow media personalities Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Candace Owens, and Megyn Kelly as [B]"frauds and grifters"[/B] and [B]"charlatans"[/B] [I]{...BTW, wait till Ben Shapiro, finds out that the corruption rots from the head, like stinking fish. I bet his own head is gonna explode! Chuckles!}[/I].

Needless to say, it was another shit-show with the feud escalating over the next subsequent days, as epithets, insults, slurs, slander and smear campaign attacks, took over the convention, meant supposedly to celebrate Charlie Kirk. [I]{...But, what an odd way to celebrate/honor Charlie Kirk? Or was it an homage?...}[/I].

Well, it couldn't have happened to a nicer group of MAGA people!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043127]Trump is hoping to have us focus on his fantasy that Biden's positive economic and national security results didn't and will not forever blow away his and every other Repub's horrific negative results. He does that as a constant distraction tactic for when, for instance, his latest grand and glorious announcement about drug-makers agreeing to lower their prices hadn't already been negotiated and accomplished for the vast majority of Americans who need those drugs in President Joe Biden's brilliant Inflation Reduction Act set to take effect more fully in 2026:

[B]Negotiated Prices Take Effect for Ten Drugs in 2026.
October 9, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/10/09/negotiated-prices-take-effect-for-ten-drugs-in-2026[/URL]

LOL. Oh look! Which is also after Trump jumped in with one of his first BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN distraction tactics by eliminating some of the drug price reductions President Joe Biden had already effected on "day one" of his 2nd disastrous presidential term:

[B]Trump Reverses Some Biden Drug Pricing Initiatives, Potentially Impacting Medicare Costs.[/B].[/QUOTE]Man you nailed it! I mean that pretty much sums up the MAGA Fuhrer, in a nutshell. Never earned a god damn thing in his lifetime.

But really, that's been his shtick, since birth. Just slap you name on anything that's not nailed down and call it yours. Take the latest "desecration" at Kennedy Center and the WH East Wing before that. [B]Trump Ignores Law and Sticks His Name on Kennedy Center,[/B] Dec 19th, 2025, [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ignores-law-and-sticks-his-name-on-kennedy-center/[/URL].

The MAGA Fuhrer's narcissism heading in to the 2026 elections, I'm sure will serve him well. Especially as he continues to lie and tell Americans, the economy is great, and that the "affordability" issues and the higher prices at the "groceries (a word he created)" stores, they're experiencing, is all just a Dem hoax!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043612]BTW, Why [NOPARSE]doesn't your so called article on "low cost of energy", consider or factor in the the time of build/constru[/NOPARSE]ction?

The last nuclear plants in the USA The Vogtle Unit 4 and Vogtle Unit 3, both took just over 10 years to build. The last one before those nuclear plants, [B]the Watts Bar Unit, took a whopping 43 years to build.[/B] That's [NOPARSE]almost a freakin' half a century of what? Wasted energy? Ineptitude? Cost overruns? Compliance? MAGA like stoppage/sab[/NOPARSE]otage?

On average solar farms in the USA Take 8 to 18 months to build. Wind farms, about 6-months to 3 years, on average depending on scale.[/QUOTE]Nuclear plants on average take 5-8 years to construct. That is a bargain when you consider how reliable, clean, and cheap the energy is and the small footprint. The big problem with wind is the gear box and turbines only last seven years on average. So yes they can be constructed quicker, but they have to be replaced every seven years. I love how you conveniently leave that out. 18 months to build and it only last seven years and it doesn't even provide constant energy and the footprint takes up hundreds of square miles, it just makes no sense. Well unless you have a political agenda to drive up energy prices to financially trap people to make them dependent on the state and you want to rule with a totalitarian regime that locks its people down. Then wind and solar make perfect sense LOL!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043604]Chuckles and more chuckles, as once again you prove, that you are incapable of even understanding the simplicity of question being debated.

What [NOPARSE]a fuckin' joke you are, when provide a very brief blob of article, that briefly talks about land efficiency and "How much land area nuclear vs solar & wind, is required". There is no mention of industry using this as the lowest cost of energy? Just freakin' hilarious, ..."land area"? ..."land [/NOPARSE]area"?

Since when do energy projects that are consider all forms of energy generation, to determine the lowest cost of producing energy, use "land area" as the determining factor?

Get back to me, when you have [U]a real answer[/U] to the debate question proposed? [I][b]What is currently (2025) the lowest cost of energy? [/b][/I].[/QUOTE]Your a lefty and your supposed to care about the environment, but you clearly don't when it gets in the way of the Green New Scam the lunatic Democrats are trying to fuck over America with. You delusional little man, please listen. "Land Area" is extremely important to the local environment. As I stated before, go research what happened in New Jersey and how they were going to destroy our coasts with wind farms and destroy the habits for all the flora and fauna that live there. Go look up all the dead whales that washed up on our beaches when they started this shit. Go look up how much maintenence the farms would need and how much extra oil run off goes in the water from the boats maintaining the turbines. Its an absolute nightmare and it would have destroyed thousands of square miles of pristine shore line in the name of green energy when we don't even need it. Don't be angry you were so dumb to believe and back this scam, try to do the right thing and preserve what little natural environments we have left. New Jersey is a deep blue state and even New Jersey wanted nothing to do with thousands and thousands of acres of wind turbines off our beaches. Let the people decide what they want and don't force your political agenda on them because you bullied back in the day and you hate the world.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043612]BTW, Why [NOPARSE]doesn't your so called article on "low cost of energy", consider or factor in the the time of build/constru[/NOPARSE]ction?

The last nuclear plants in the USA The Vogtle Unit 4 and Vogtle Unit 3, both took just over 10 years to build. The last one before those nuclear plants, [B]the Watts Bar Unit, took a whopping 43 years to build.[/B] That's [NOPARSE]almost a freakin' half a century of what? Wasted energy? Ineptitude? Cost overruns? Compliance? MAGA like stoppage/sab[/NOPARSE]otage?

On average solar farms in the USA Take 8 to 18 months to build. Wind farms, about 6-months to 3 years, on average depending on scale.[/QUOTE]7-11 years according to this article.

[URL]https://www.iberdrola.com/about-us/our-activity/offshore-wind-energy/offshore-wind-park-construction[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043685]Man you nailed it! I mean that pretty much sums up the MAGA Fuhrer, in a nutshell. Never earned a god damn thing in his lifetime.

But really, that's been his shtick, since birth. Just slap you name on anything that's not nailed down and call it yours. Take the latest "desecration" at Kennedy Center and the WH East Wing before that. [B]Trump Ignores Law and Sticks His Name on Kennedy Center,[/B] Dec 19th, 2025, [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ignores-law-and-sticks-his-name-on-kennedy-center/[/URL].

The MAGA Fuhrer's narcissism heading in to the 2026 elections, I'm sure will serve him well. Especially as he continues to lie and tell Americans, the economy is great, and that the "affordability" issues and the higher prices at the "groceries (a word he created)" stores, they're experiencing, is all just a Dem hoax![/QUOTE]'affordability' XD.

Put tarifs to make america great again, then price are raising, people stop buying the expensive tarifed stuffs, less stuffs moving inside the country because people arent buying it because they are buying the less expenssive stuff, the demand for less expenssive stuff is going up so bo the price too, some stuffs are moving inside because the price are higher so it worth it but most of it don't because of the tarifs, eveything is now more expensive be cause of the 'affordability'.

God damn the 'affordability' for this mess!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043127]Trump is hoping to have us focus on his fantasy that Biden's positive economic and national security results didn't and will not forever blow away his and every other Repub's horrific negative results. He does that as a constant distraction tactic for when, for instance, his latest grand and glorious announcement about drug-makers agreeing to lower their prices hadn't already been negotiated and accomplished for the vast majority of Americans who need those drugs in President Joe Biden's brilliant Inflation Reduction Act set to take effect more fully in 2026:

[B]Negotiated Prices Take Effect for Ten Drugs in 2026.
October 9, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/10/09/negotiated-prices-take-effect-for-ten-drugs-in-2026[/URL]

LOL. Oh look! Which is also after Trump jumped in with one of his first BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN distraction tactics by eliminating some of the drug price reductions President Joe Biden had already effected on "day one" of his 2nd disastrous presidential term:

[B]Trump Reverses Some Biden Drug Pricing Initiatives, Potentially Impacting Medicare Costs.[/B]

[URL]https://www.ajmc.com/view/trump-reverses-some-biden-drug-pricing-initiatives-potentially-impacting-medicare-costs[/URL]

Lolol. So Liar Trump gets to. Waddle over to the nearest podium and virtually without one word of pushback and clarification by the lazy typically pro Repub Mainstream Media announce some blithering BS about how he saved America from higher drug prices after he rescinded BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN's accomplishment to dramatically lower drug prices for most American customers for those drugs and then take credit for future drug price reductions already negotiated and put into BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN's Inflation Reduction. Act to take effect in about 3 weeks anyway! Lolol.

Oh, except this time the MSM will stand in stoney silence while total numbskull Trump tells them he reduced drug prices by "400%, 500% and even 600%.

Lolol. Can't beat that. Well, unless you reduce the prices by "700% of course.[/QUOTE]Not anymore he's been superceded by a trio of Scumbags.

#1 is Scumbag Pelosi by lightyears in 2008 she rigged the primaries against Scumbag Bubba and handed it to Scumbag Barry which gave us Our Lord and Savior in 2016.

#2 is RBG, in 2016 Scumbag Barry asked her politely like the cuck he is to retire and she told him "ain't no house slave telling me what to do" LMAO.

In 2020 she finally kicked the bucket and gave Our Lord and Savior another sweet ass Supreme Court seat to make up the Trump Court.

#3 the oligarchs rigged the election in 2020 and handed it to (#3 Scumbag Joe and Scumbag Harris).

Only to have Scumbag Pelosi and Scumbag Barry force him out of the race in the summer of 2024 only for him to quickly and astutely hand the baton to Birdbrain Harris.

And the rest is history folks thank you for your votes, please vote for AOC in 2028 God only knows what serendipity she will send our way LMFAO.

Allahu Akbar!!

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/12/23/chuck-todd-joe-biden-did-a-ton-of-damage-to-the-democratic-brand-with-his-one-term/[/URL]

Post script hey you feminist Cucks what we really need in 2026 is more female Democrats in high office ROTFLMMFAO.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043612]BTW, Why [NOPARSE]doesn't your so called article on "low cost of energy", consider or factor in the the time of build/constru[/NOPARSE]ction?

The last nuclear plants in the USA The Vogtle Unit 4 and Vogtle Unit 3, both took just over 10 years to build. The last one before those nuclear plants, [B]the Watts Bar Unit, took a whopping 43 years to build.[/B] That's [NOPARSE]almost a freakin' half a century of what? Wasted energy? Ineptitude? Cost overruns? Compliance? MAGA like stoppage/sab[/NOPARSE]otage?

On average solar farms in the USA Take 8 to 18 months to build. Wind farms, about 6-months to 3 years, on average depending on scale.[/QUOTE]It takes 7-11 years to construct off shore wind farms. Not 3 three years.

[URL]https://www.iberdrola.com/about-us/our-activity/offshore-wind-energy/offshore-wind-park-construction[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3043624]Old fat orange is totally megaloman and senile making USA mostly ridiculous in front of the world.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/12/23/louvre-tightens-security-installs-bars-on-infamous-window-of-crown-jewel-heist/[/URL]

Allahu Akbar.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3043760]Not anymore he's been superceded by a trio of Scumbags.

#1 is Scumbag Pelosi by lightyears in 2008 she rigged the primaries against Scumbag Bubba and handed it to Scumbag Barry which gave us Our Lord and Savior in 2016.

#2 is RBG, in 2016 Scumbag Barry asked her politely like the cuck he is to retire and she told him "ain't no house slave telling me what to do" LMAO.

In 2020 she finally kicked the bucket and gave Our Lord and Savior another sweet ass Supreme Court seat to make up the Trump Court.[/QUOTE]Todd totally misses which single demographic and on what single issue swung from their usual Dem vote to a Repub vote in 2024, in the only 3 swing states that mattered and only by less than 0.75 of a single percentage point, thereby being solely responsible for Trump winning the election. And, yes, it was a vote "against" something; it was the angry Muslim votes "against" anyone from the Biden Administration in PA, MI and WI for its support of Israel in the Israel-Gaza War, which they extrapolated to being support for Netanyahu, who they hated.

It is no more complicated than that. No other typically Dem-voting demographic shift from Dem to Repub flipped a single typically Blue state from Harris to Trump. None. Only that one demographic in three swing states, the only three swing states that mattered, and only on that one non economic / non inflation / non immigration / non crime / non tranny / non "woke" issue, decided the presidential election outcome and only by a swing of less than 0. 75 of a single percentage point did it.

Meanwhile, Repubs lost House seats to the Dems in the 2024 election, have continued to lose more of them ever since and the only Senate seats won by Repubs was in 2-3 states that were Ruby Red to begin with.

Consequently, as your link shows, at least Todd mentioned the far more important factor in his usual pro-Repub / anti-Dem screed:

[QUOTE]"Youve got progressives who dont like the direction of the party, who are going to end up voting enthusiastically in the midterms against Republicans, but it doesnt mean they like what the Democrats are doing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3043779][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/12/23/louvre-tightens-security-installs-bars-on-infamous-window-of-crown-jewel-heist/[/URL]

Allahu Akbar.[/QUOTE]I don t care about your too old, too fat orange megaloman still making his show, when criminal Putin makes fun of him since 1 year and Europe don t accept what accept Americans. I just wish he will fail to fuck courageous Ukrainians and Greenland, when he tries since 1 year to rob them. When US economics is falling, with USD and petrol rate falling, only way he knows is to rob others, as he did to become rich, not paying tax. A shameful guy putting shame more than MAGA on USA. I m proud Europe resist to him, when he is not king of the world, whatever Americans can have delirium, when only 5% population, but second after criminal China for pollution. Best way to stop Putin is to take Russia money and to isolate them till starvation, even only way to get rid of him. Best way to reduce pollution is not to buy Chinese and US, when both make 50% of pollution killing our planet. Almost double pollution per American compare to Europe where we build higher quality.

No surprise, Trump's first year back with his typically disastrous Repub economic policies and stewardship was the worst year for American businesses since a previous Repub's anti-business policies and stewardship crashed the USA economy, destroyed thousands of businesses and wiped out millions of jobs.

Oh well. We tried.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/12/27/corporate-bankruptcies-economy/[/URL]

[B]Bankruptcies Soar To 15-Year High Thanks To Trump's Tariffs.
Who could have possibly predicted that serial bankruptcy filer Donald Trump's tariff tantrums would trigger corporate bankruptcies to soar to a 15-year high in 2025?[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2025/12/trumps-tariffs-trigger-bankruptcies[/URL]

[QUOTE]Corporate bankruptcies surged in 2025, rivaling [b]levels not seen since the immediate aftermath of the Great Recession[/b], as import-dependent businesses absorbed the highest tariffs in decades.

At least 717 companies filed for bankruptcy through November, according to data from S&P Global Market Intelligence. Thats roughly 14 percent more than the same 11 months of 2024, and the highest tally since 2010.

Companies cited inflation and interest rates among the factors contributing to their financial challenges, as well as Trump administration trade policies that have disrupted supply chains and pushed up costs.[/QUOTE]

And keeping on supporting criminal Netanyahou. I really wish Israelis will wake up and get rid of their criminal. I don't need Clooney in my beloved little France, I don t want to pay tax for him and his family health protection, like too many Americans found this aim in France, when they don t have in claimed MAGA.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3044536]I don t care about your too old, too fat orange megaloman still making his show, when criminal Putin makes fun of him since 1 year and Europe don t accept what accept Americans. I just wish he will fail to fuck courageous Ukrainians and Greenland, when he tries since 1 year to rob them. When US economics is falling, with USD and petrol rate falling, only way he knows is to rob others, as he did to become rich, not paying tax. A shameful guy putting shame more than MAGA on USA. I m proud Europe resist to him, when he is not king of the world, whatever Americans can have delirium, when only 5% population, but second after criminal China for pollution. Best way to stop Putin is to take Russia money and to isolate them till starvation, even only way to get rid of him. Best way to reduce pollution is not to buy Chinese and US, when both make 50% of pollution killing our planet. Almost double pollution per American compare to Europe where we build higher quality.[/QUOTE]The only thing the EU makes better is whoors and brothels ala FKKland.

[URL]https://www.euronews.com/2025/12/25/in-2025-french-peoples-desire-to-leave-the-country-is-at-an-all-time-high[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/airbus-faces-new-quality-problem-dozens-a320-jets-sources-say-2025-12-01/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/dec/01/airbus-averts-further-travel-disruption-by-fixing-most-jets-hit-by-software-glitch[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/world/europe/france-is-busing-homeless-immigrants-out-of-paris-before-the-olympics.html[/URL]

You will never catch me on an Airbus piece of crap.

The topic of restaurant closures used to be all the rage among MAGAs here and elsewhere. But this year, not so much.

Gee, I wonder why. LOL.

[B]These restaurant chains closed locations in 2025.
Dec. 30, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/30/2025-restaurant-closures-starbucks-wendys.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Restaurant chains like Starbucks, Wendys and Dennys announced that they were closing locations this year to help their businesses.

U.S. restaurant traffic fell every month this year except for July, according to Black Box Intelligence data.
..........
In years past, restaurant closures have been more concentrated across casual-dining chains, which lost customers to fast-casual competitors like Chipotle. But this year, chains across the industry announced plans to shutter at least hundreds of locations.

In such a tough environment, some restaurant companies even filed for bankruptcy protection. Hooters, Pinstripes and On the Border were some of the notable names that landed in bankruptcy court this year.[/QUOTE]No problem. In all probability, as soon as Trump's USA Agriculture business-destroying across-the-board tariffs, mass deportation of low cost, low entitlement-using "worst of the worst" busboys, kitchen workers, servers, delivery truck drivers, loading dock workers, etc works their typical disastrous Repub economic policy and stewardship economy-destroying magic more fully, Trump might be delighted to achieve a year where every month experiences a drop in restaurant traffic instead of mysteriously skipping just the one.

Oh well. We tried.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3044676]The only thing the EU makes better is whoors and brothels ala FKKland.

[URL]https://www.euronews.com/2025/12/25/in-2025-french-peoples-desire-to-leave-the-country-is-at-an-all-time-high[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/airbus-faces-new-quality-problem-dozens-a320-jets-sources-say-2025-12-01/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/dec/01/airbus-averts-further-travel-disruption-by-fixing-most-jets-hit-by-software-glitch[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/world/europe/france-is-busing-homeless-immigrants-out-of-paris-before-the-olympics.html[/URL]

You will never catch me on an Airbus piece of crap.[/QUOTE]I would feel more safe in Airbus than Boeing. No comparison for cars, foods, drinks, quality of life with our health protection, Americans come to France to get it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3044768]The topic of restaurant closures used to be all the rage among MAGAs here and elsewhere. But this year, not so much.

Gee, I wonder why. LOL. [/QUOTE]It can't be, more Red Lobster [I]"All you can eat, [b]endless shrimp"[/b][/I] fiasco styled [NOPARSE]bankruptcies and closures,...can it? [i](...kkkk!)[/i] Especially in this rich, vibrant, booming and "A+++++" [/NOPARSE]economy?

So what will raging MAGA "know-it-all" economists, say is the reason this time?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3044768][B]These restaurant chains closed locations in 2025.
Dec. 30, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/30/2025-restaurant-closures-starbucks-wendys.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL] .[/QUOTE]Whoa, that's quite the list of well know and well established restaurants with closures and bankruptcies. Denny's, Hooters, Hardee's and Wendy's, just to name a few. Yes, I'm sure more than a few have stumble into Red Lobster bankruptcy territory, given the so called "A+++++" economy.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3043729]7-11 years according to this article.

[URL]https://www.iberdrola.com/about-us/our-activity/offshore-wind-energy/offshore-wind-park-construction[/URL][/QUOTE]Yet again, you've produced, nothing that states, nuclear is the lowest cost of energy? But it's understandable you've found nothing, since nuclear is good at false promises (like your MAGA Fuhrer), but not so much at delivering said promises.

BTW, there are two kinds of wind farms in your article, onshore and offshore. The article also says, 1-5 years for development.

[QUOTE]While the construction of an onshore wind farm can take between 4 and 8 years, taking into account all phases of the process, the construction of an offshore wind farm is estimated to take between 7 and 11 years. [b][u]Three to five years are dedicated to the development phase[/u], one to three to the pre-construction phase and two to four years to construction.[/b] [URL]https://www.iberdrola.com/about-us/our-activity/offshore-wind-energy/offshore-wind-park-construction[/URL][/QUOTE]But, it is good to see, you're doing a bit of homework for a change and looking things up. However, if you do a bit more homework, you'll see [B]what is REALITY[/B] and [B]what is FICTION![/B].

You'll find that the nuclear industry is unbelievably good at promising wonderful, low-cost and timely clean electricity but not so good at delivering it, on-time and on-budget. Whereas it's the exact opposite with solar, wind and batteries (S+W+B).

The last nuclear power plant in Texas, was the Comanche Peak Nuclear Power Plant, it started on Dec 19, 1974 and then took almost 20 years to finish building. Today, just look at Texas, who is building out more S+W+B, than anyone else in the U.S., including California. Why...because S+W+B are the lowest cost of energy and the easiest to implement!

So...if you think nuclear, is the lowest cost and takes 6-8 years to build in the U.S., then there should be lots of examples...right!

Pathological liar and utter presidential failure Donald Trump will try to take credit for this, of course. And his MAGA suckers will believe him. But it will be all thanks to Joe Biden. Trump hasn't done shit compared to this and never will. Medicare recipients are the vast majority of the consumers for these important drugs.

[B]Medicare drug price negotiations may save some retirees more than 50% in 2026: AARP[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/30/medicare-drug-price-negotiations-savings-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The first 10 prescription drugs subject to Medicare price negotiations go into effect on Jan. 1.

Medicare beneficiaries will see substantially lower costs for those treatments in 2026, according to a new AARP report.

Enrollees in Medicare Part D prescription drug plans may see their out-of-pocket costs for the negotiated drugs fall by an average of more than 50%, the research finds.
..........
Another 15 drug names are set to see price cuts under Medicare in 2027.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3044863]Yet again, you've produced, nothing that states, nuclear is the lowest cost of energy? But it's understandable you've found nothing, since nuclear is good at false promises (like your MAGA Fuhrer), but not so much at delivering said promises.

BTW, there are two kinds of wind farms in your article, onshore and offshore. The article also says, 1-5 years for development.

But, it is good to see, you're doing a bit of homework for a change and looking things up. However, if you do a bit more homework, you'll see [B]what is REALITY[/B] and [B]what is FICTION![/B].[/QUOTE]Please stop with the lies. It takes 7-11 years for off shore wind farms and the link clearly states 4-8 years for onshore, if its just a few experimental wind turbines-then four years, but anything of significance which can actually power a small town takes more like 8 years. And again, on average the turbine and gearbox must be replaced every 7 years! Takes 8 years to build and needs to be replaced every seven years and takes up 300 miles of land. Why the fuck would anyone want to power their country with that when they can just build a nuclear plant, which is just a decade away from nuclear fission which will be even cheaper? I'll tell you why, its a liberal scam to make the masses pay more for their energy so they can be easier to control.

Just like this global warming bullshit. Anything that happens now is due to global warming. Hurricane- global warmings fault. Even though for thousands of years the gulf has a hurricane season. Earth in California- blame it on global warming, even California has a massive fault line. Tornado in Iowa, blame it on global warming- even though this area of the country is labeled tornado alley and has been effected by this for thousands of years. No one is paying attention to the liberal scam bullshit anymore. And thank god the masses are catching on to this shit and seeing the world and history for what it it really is.

Saw the new avatar. At least they portray the savage sadistic Native Americans for what they truly were. Some were good, some were sadistic killers who slaughtered and scalped whole villages of setters to please the sun god or some other weird shit. Thank god James Cameron is staying truer to real history.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3044855]It can't be, more Red Lobster "All you can eat, endless shrimp" fiasco styled bankruptcies and closures,...can it? Especially in this rich, vibrant, booming and "A+++++" economy?[/QUOTE]Binary boy is at it again. To recap, Tooms says restaurants are doing great in the Biden economy. Red Lobster was one of dozens of restaurants to go under in the Biden economy, and the excuse you fools came up with was "endless shrimp. " Red Lobster lost five times more money with the pandemic than endless shrimp, but whatever.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3044855]ISo what will raging MAGA "know-it-all" economists, say is the reason this time?[/QUOTE]This time? About what? Oh, you mean your asinine assetion that restaurants were doing great under Biden and terrible under Trump? That when thinking about going out to eat, people say, "Oh, Trump is in office, I better not go. "

I wonder if you even read your links because the first line was "As the restaurant industry endured another difficult year". Oh yeah, if only Biden were still in office, everything would be great. Well, I guess that is true if you run a child care center in Minnesota.

Of course, restaurants are going to be hurting when so many people are working from home and can prepare food there. And it was not a scientific journal but Walmart's own data that showed people on Monjaurno and Ozempic, which is now one in six Americans, bought much less food.

At this point, Binary Boy, I guess it is time to ask. How many government funded businesses like child day care are you running? Why else would you keep posting the same, red bad, blue good crap incessantly?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3045104]Binary boy is at it again. To recap, Tooms says restaurants are doing great in the Biden economy. Red Lobster was one of dozens of restaurants to go under in the Biden economy, and the excuse you fools came up with was "endless shrimp. " Red Lobster lost five times more money with the pandemic than endless shrimp, but whatever.

This time? About what? Oh, you mean your asinine assetion that restaurants were doing great under Biden and terrible under Trump? That when thinking about going out to eat, people say, "Oh, Trump is in office, I better not go. "

[B]I wonder if you even read your links because the first line was "As the restaurant industry endured another difficult year".[/b] Oh yeah, if only Biden were still in office, everything would be great. Well, I guess that is true if you run a child care center in Minnesota.

Of course, restaurants are going to be hurting when so many people are working from home and can prepare food there. And it was not a scientific journal but Walmart's own data that showed people on Monjaurno and Ozempic, which is now one in six Americans, bought much less food.

At this point, Binary Boy, I guess it is time to ask. How many government funded businesses like child day care are you running? Why else would you keep posting the same, red bad, blue good crap incessantly?[/QUOTE]One of the quotes I included from that link states what is radically different about the restaurant closures this year under Trump's failed tariffs and trade war conditions vs when Biden was recovering us from Trump's Pandemic, producing the Envy of the World Economy, handing Trump a record high number of new private-sector jobs created at higher wages, incomes that substantially out-paced the effects of Trump's Pandemic Inflation, no Recession, not even a tiny one, and a 2. 9% entire 2024 Rate of Inflation.

A year after being handed that on a silver platter, there ought to be new locations of those restaurant chains popping up by the dozens, not closing down by the dozens, unless the fortunate recipient of those historically positive conditions on January 20,2025 was hell-bent on destroying the USA Economy, driving record numbers of businesses into bankruptcy and wiping out sizable numbers of private-sector jobs.

And to think, Trump added another $3+ Trillion to his deficits just to produce those crap results.

Except US Americans and criminal Netanyahou supported by USA, nobody else among 7 billions people believe nor trust the megaloman showman senile fat orange with his bullshits and ignorance about our world which have to resist to him, when he is old, can t bullshit for too long time, when already under pills. If nature could also get rid of Putin, but he seems stronger healthy, but we then would have a better world, despite criminal China killing our planet, but we can stop them easily, not buying Chinese, then they would produce and pollute less. To improve our world and for children. Funny, but not for Ukrainians, is how Putin fuck old fat since 1 year, he already finished all kamasutra positions on 2025 and will repeat each, with all with even balls in his mouth for US DT by the old. This is MAGA deeply fucked and for DT.

The terrorist's attacked Venezuela without any approval and kidnapped Maduro in the middle of the night like the Criminals they are.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3045435]The terrorist's attacked Venezuela without any approval and kidnapped Maduro in the middle of the night like the Criminals they are.[/QUOTE]I live Among the millions of Venezuelan Refugees in Colombia- So Glad the ScumBag Maduro Shall Languish in Maximum Security for the Rest of His ScumBag Life-- Would Be Great if instead he could be Tortured for 2 weeks and then Decapitated.

For 25+ Yrs Venezuela has been in a Nightmare with ScumBag Chavez and Maduro Many Thousands of Venezuelans Murdered and imprisoned-- 9 Million+ Venezuelan Refugees all over Latin AMerica Living Hand to Mouth and are Exploited Everyday- God Bless President Trump / USA.

Also this is the End of the 75 Year Cuban Nightmare!

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3045435]The terrorist's attacked Venezuela without any approval and kidnapped Maduro in the middle of the night like the Criminals they are.[/QUOTE]The United States of America has a new policy it supercedes the Monroe Doctrine aka Gods Law aka Our Lord and Saviors Doctrine.

Viva Venezuela sans the Dirtbag, hey Scumbag Lula I sure hope you're next.

And CDMX is shitting her panties non stop.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045466]I live Among the millions of Venezuelan Refugees in Colombia- So Glad the ScumBag Maduro Shall Languish in Maximum Security for the Rest of His ScumBag Life-- Would Be Great if instead he could be Tortured for 2 weeks and then Decapitated.

For 25+ Yrs Venezuela has been in a Nightmare with ScumBag Chavez and Maduro Many Thousands of Venezuelans Murdered and imprisoned-- 9 Million+ Venezuelan Refugees all over Latin AMerica Living Hand to Mouth and are Exploited Everyday- God Bless President Trump / USA.

Also this is the End of the 75 Year Cuban Nightmare![/QUOTE]Let's do Putin next. Then China or North Korea? Oh wait. Trump likes those murdering pieces of shit.

Fuck trump. And stop with that stupid god bless shit. It's silly.

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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3045494]The United States of America has a new policy it supercedes the Monroe Doctrine aka Gods Law aka Our Lord and Saviors Doctrine.

Viva Venezuela sans the Dirtbag, hey Scumbag Lula I sure hope you're next.

And CDMX is shitting her panties non stop.[/QUOTE]After trying to rob Ukraine fortunately supported by Europe, when shameful MAGA would prefer to make business with criminal Putin, also trying to rob Greenland, but nobody else than US want and trust shameful orange, now Venezuelan petrol. All this in only 1 year, but failing to stop 2 wars, but supporting criminals and attacking other countries to rob them. Real shameful MAGA of robbers. Our world will live better after the shameful orange, wishing for no Vance after.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3044940]Please stop with the lies. It takes 7-11 years for off shore wind farms and the link clearly states 4-8 years for onshore, if its just a few experimental wind turbines-then four years, but anything of significance which can actually power a small town takes more like 8 years. And again, on average the turbine and gearbox must be replaced every 7 years! Takes 8 years to build and needs to be replaced every seven years and takes up 300 miles of land.[/QUOTE]Lest you forget, the origin of this debate, was about the lowest cost of energy. And yet again, you've produced, nothing that states, nuclear is the lowest cost of energy in 2025? Or will be now in 2026?

Show me when was the last nuclear plant in the USA Was built, in less than 10 years, or was the lowest cost of energy?

[I][b]Stop flapping your gums[/b][/I] and provide real-life examples of your so called claims. In case you can't read, let me remind of what I said, which is there are TWO KINDS of wind farms!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3044940][b]Why the fuck would anyone want to power their country with that[/b] when they can just build a nuclear plant, which is just a decade away from nuclear fission which will be even cheaper? I'll tell you why, its a liberal scam to make the masses pay more for their energy so they can be easier to control. [/QUOTE]Funny you should ask, why any country would do that indeed, [I][b]since Britain has over 16 GW and 15 GW of operational offshore and onshore wind capacity, [/b][/I]respectively It is the world's leader in offshore wind, with ambitious plans to reach 50 GW by 2030 (that's less than 7 to 8 years), with [I][b]zero[/b][/I] new nuclear power plants built by then.

Stop flapping your gums (like some old granny), stop getting suckered by fossil fuel propaganda and your do your homework [I][b]and try thinking for yourself,[/b][/I] providing of course you can do a simple Google search.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3045104]Binary boy is at it again. To recap, Tooms says restaurants are doing great in the Biden economy. Red Lobster was one of dozens of restaurants to go under in the Biden economy, and the excuse you fools came up with was "endless shrimp. " Red Lobster lost five times more money with the pandemic than endless shrimp, but whatever.

This time? About what? Oh, you mean your asinine assetion that restaurants were doing great under Biden and terrible under Trump? That when thinking about going out to eat, people say, "Oh, Trump is in office, I better not go. "

I wonder if you even read your links because the first line was "As the restaurant industry endured another difficult year". Oh yeah, if only Biden were still in office, everything would be great. Well, I guess that is true if you run a child care center in Minnesota.[/QUOTE]]Funny, [NOPARSE]predictable and as per frickin' usual, your right-wing MAGA politics, is just like your MAGA economics...nothing but revisionist history!

Let me remind you, once again, that your dumb argument, that said Americans could no longer afford to eat at Red Lobster, under a so called "bad Biden economy", did in fact lose the debate, to the poor management style decisions, like the "All you can eat" decision from Red Lobster, that sent them into bankruptcy.

When you check the list of Restaurants provided by EihTooms, you see that several of them, have also [/NOPARSE]fallen to the bad financing and management decisions like Red Lobster, under the yoke of private equity firms, further exacerbated under a high tariff, MAGA Fuhrer regime styled economics.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3045435]The terrorist's attacked Venezuela without any approval and kidnapped Maduro in the middle of the night like the Criminals they are.[/QUOTE]Only a few more years, until a Hague Tribunal, I would imagine [I]...Yes[/I]?

Nah, want I'm I thinking. Different era, different Fuhrer!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045633]Only a few more years, until a hI would imagine [I]...Yes[/I]?

Nah, want I'm I thinking. Different era, different Fuhrer![/QUOTE]The Hague Tribunal is only for Bullshit countries -.

[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3045529]Let's do Putin next. Then China or North Korea? Oh wait. Trump likes those murdering pieces of shit.

Fuck trump. And stop with that stupid god bless shit. It's silly.[/QUOTE]China dream since so long about Taiwan, dangerous China killing our planet since too long. Trump wants also Nicaragua, Cuba, Greenland, Ukraine wealth, when USA economics can t compete anymore, Tesla now far behind Chinese, so, new USA business is robbering.

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;3045556]After trying to rob Ukraine fortunately supported by Europe, when shameful MAGA would prefer to make business with criminal Putin, also trying to rob Greenland, but nobody else than US want and trust shameful orange, now Venezuelan petrol. All this in only 1 year, but failing to stop 2 wars, but supporting criminals and attacking other countries to rob them. Real shameful MAGA of robbers. Our world will live better after the shameful orange, wishing for no Vance after.[/QUOTE]Trump wants to convince other countries to engage in new and improved trade deals and treaties with America while demonstrating how every 4 years another Repub Numbskull like him could slither into the WH to shit on and ignore the existing deals and treaties even he negotiated and agreed to previously.

At this point Trump has started more Wars than the imaginary number of Wars he falsely claims to have settled. No surprise, since he has also increased the cost of groceries damn I'm glad he invented that word and increased the Rate of Inflation vs this same reported Q3 Rate for last year under Biden, added $3-5 Trillion to his deficits while tanking the labor market and business investments and once again driving American farmers into Recession while gifting China with their international customers now lost forever, all of which is exactly the opposite of what dumb Repub hillbilly MAGA suckers were blissfully easily conned into thinking they were voting for.

Oh well. We tried.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045630]]Funny, predictable and as per frickin' usual, your right-wing MAGA politics, is just like your MAGA economics...nothing but revisionist history!

Let me remind you, once again, that your dumb argument, that said Americans could no longer afford to eat at Red Lobster, under a so called "bad Biden economy", did in fact lose the debate, to the poor management style decisions, like the "All you can eat" decision from Red Lobster, that sent them into bankruptcy.[/QUOTE]The only debate was in your head. The restaurant industry's own journals said their industry sucked in 2024 and Toom's article said it sucked in 2025. I didn't make an argument. I stated facts.

Then Tooms claims he thought the industry would be better under Trump and that it has not been is Trump's fault. LOL. Tooms thought things would be better under Trump would improve? That is the worst lie ever told.

Even your endless shrimp argument means egg all your over your face. Is the restaurant industry in trouble because of bad management or who is president? You cannot even give a straight answer, but you take both sides of an argument and declare victory? What else is new?

Correlating whether people go out to eat with who is president is insane. That you two bring presidential politics into everything just shows how bad your TDS truly is.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045466]I live Among the millions of Venezuelan Refugees in Colombia- So Glad the ScumBag Maduro Shall Languish in Maximum Security for the Rest of His ScumBag Life-- Would Be Great if instead he could be Tortured for 2 weeks and then Decapitated.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there are people celebrating in Venezuela and libtards protesting in the USA. Doesn't that say it all?

The funniest narrative is the USA just wants to steal Venezuela's oil. I laugh because people do not know what was going on. Chavez and Maduro have not only been stealing all the oil money. They have run the industry into the ground. So we are going to steal Venezuela's oil as compared to what? Maduro and Chavez stealing it?

FWIW though, I do not think this was even about oil. When you look at some of the swing states, if you could put a few hundred thousands Venezuelans in and pay them off to vote Democrat, you will have the entire nation in blue forever. That is what Elon Musk talked about. Last I checked there were six million Venezuelan refugees. It might be at ten million now. Most of the Venezuelan refugees illegals need to be shipped back to Venezuela and fast.

And can we stop with this fairest election crap? Look at Georgia. [URL]https://washingtonstand.com/article/315000-georgia-votes-lacked-certifying-signatures-in-2020-election-records-show[/URL]

After five years of trying, a citizen investigator has finally uncovered proof of widespread irregularities in the 2020 election results for Fulton County, Ga. , and he wants accountability. After obtaining nearly all the county's election records through an open records request, David Cross discovered that signatures were missing on no less than 134 tabulator tapes, representing some 315,000 votes.

"This is not partisan. This is statutory," Cross argued in a hearing earlier this month before the Georgia State Election Board (SEB). "When the law demands three signatures on tabulator tapes and the county fails to follow the rules, those 315,000 votes are, by definition, uncertified. "

To these challenges, Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, effectively pleaded "no contest. "

"I've not seen the tapes myself," she responded, "but we do not dispute that the tapes were not signed. It was a violation of the rule. . We don't dispute the allegation from the 2020 election. "

Just like with the Somali day care and health care scams in Minnesota, the lame stream media was once again scooped by a citizen investigator. All the lamestream media did in 2020 was repeat government talking points on Covid and how 2020 was the fairest election in American history. They did not investigate jack shit.

I am not sure if it was the plummeting ratings or polls showing a lack of trust but CBS was singing a new tune. [URL]https://*******.com/4h2weayp[/URL]

"On too many stories, the press has missed the story. Because we've taken into account the perspective of advocates and not the average American. Or we put too much weight in the analysis of academics or elites, and not enough on you. "

Well, that is great CBS, but are you going to walk the walk?

In general terms, I do not like the kind of foreign intervention Trump / the USA doing what it did in Venezuela but like you, I knew from talking to Venezuelans how fucking bad Chavez and Maduro were. One gal I was seeing showed me a video of people eating out of the garbage and said it was a daily fact of life for so many there. Of all the places in the world, Venezuela may be the exception to the rule for us not getting involved.

That does not mean it is going to be easy. Of all the things I saw, the worst was the Chavez / Maduro culture allowed for and promoted stealing. If you were in government and you were not stealing, you were a fool. I hate to say it, but the smart Venezuelans in government stuffed their pockets and got the hell out of the country. To me, that is going to be the hardest thing to change, the lawless culture.

Still, Venezuela is a country which should be as rich if not richer than Saudi Arabia given how much oil they have. If you care about the Venezuelan people at all, you should hope that Trump's plan to improve the lives of the people there succeeds. That is what matters, the plight of the Venezuelan people, but are they going to matter or is this once more going to be more of the red blue, presidential politics crap? I think we have already seen the answer.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042594]Your sentiments were shared by former presidential candidate Herman Cain who is no longer with us. At the end of day was it worth it to not wear the mask?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/diaper-report[/URL]

Aside from the more obvious reason for Trump starting another Repub War, something like the 5th or 6th War he has started so far, being to deflect attention away from the millions of his Child Trafficker closest friend ever Epstein Files discovered where he no doubt plays a starring role, this is the Real News he was hoping nobody would be talking about heading into the 2nd year of his 2nd Worst Presidency in USA History:

[B]Jack Smith says Trump acknowledged to others that he lost 2020 election.[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jack-smith-says-trump-acknowledged-others-that-he-lost-2020-election-2026-01-01/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Publicly, Trump falsely claimed that he won the 2020 election. His supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, in an unsuccessful attempt to prevent the Congress from certifying the results of the election. After taking office for a second time in January 2025, Trump pardoned the rioters.[/QUOTE]Oh, on that particular issue, did you hear Trump's boast about how "regime change" might have been a failed policy for previous presidents but he has a sterling record of success for everything so don't worry about how Little Marco and Drunkie Hegseth will handle that thingy in Venezuela?

LOL.

Apparently he forgot how his disastrously failed attempt at "regime change" turned out on January 6, 2021. And that was with him already AS president and commander-in-chief of the country he led his mob of America-hating Insurrectionists into bloody battle on American soil to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate a few duly-elected officials along the way including his own Vice President.

That was the fastest and most widely-documented failed "regime change" attempt in history. And he didn't have to send a couple loons from his Administration to another country to fail at it.

Here is one of the best short videos on the Donroe Doctrine shared with me by a friend:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1517740762672354/?fs=e&fs=e[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045620]Lest you forget, the origin of this debate, was about the lowest cost of energy. And yet again, you've produced, nothing that states, nuclear is the lowest cost of energy in 2025? Or will be now in 2026?

Show me when was the last nuclear plant in the USA Was built, in less than 10 years, or was the lowest cost of energy?

[I][b]Stop flapping your gums[/b][/I] and provide real-life examples of your so called claims. In case you can't read, let me remind of what I said, which is there are TWO KINDS of wind farms!

Funny you should ask, why any country would do that indeed, [I][b]since Britain has over 16 GW and 15 GW of operational offshore and onshore wind capacity, [/b][/I]respectively It is the world's leader in offshore wind, with ambitious plans to reach 50 GW by 2030 (that's less than 7 to 8 years), with [I][b]zero[/b][/I] new nuclear power plants built by then..[/QUOTE]6 months to build wind farms and the wind if free so the energy is free right? And the wind wills last 600 years and also cure cancer too LOL?

Stick to facts please. Your posts are just so misleading. Building wind farms up and down are coasts when we are 10 years away from nuclear fusion is insanely dumb and horrible for the environment. Maybe it is cheaper, still doesn't justify building it because it destroys the environment and takes up far too much space. And when the whole wind farm needs to be replaced every 7 years, my gut tells me it is not the cheapest form. Keep up the slandering scum job of green energy being at all logical. Fraud.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045633]Only a few more years, until a Hague Tribunal, I would imagine [I]...Yes[/I]?

Nah, want I'm I thinking. Different era, different Fuhrer![/QUOTE]Nothing makes me happier than to see criminals burn. Trump should be King of universe for getting rid of that cockroach Marduro. I love it when the time for talk ends and the cockroaches run to the shadows.

Maduro ran a nation so poorly that millions of his own people fled and the only way they could generate money was to sell cocaine and poison Americans. What an amazing for USA to show its strength and show the world there is still a time when people shut the fuck up and let the men with the biggest guns put the drug dealing criminals behind bars.

An amazing day for Venezuela as well. So happy to see them liberated, free, and on to a path of prosperity through unity and trust with the USA.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3045672]Trump wants to convince other countries to engage in new and improved trade deals and treaties with America while demonstrating how every 4 years another Repub Numbskull like him could slither into the WH to shit on and ignore the existing deals and treaties even he negotiated and agreed to previously.

At this point Trump has started more Wars than the imaginary number of Wars he falsely claims to have settled. No surprise, since he has also increased the cost of groceries damn I'm glad he invented that word and increased the Rate of Inflation vs this same reported Q3 Rate for last year under Biden, added $3-5 Trillion to his deficits while tanking the labor market and business investments and once again driving American farmers into Recession while gifting China with their international customers now lost forever, all of which is exactly the opposite of what dumb Repub hillbilly MAGA suckers were blissfully easily conned into thinking they were voting for.[/QUOTE]Old fat orange is turning too senile crazy, making not MAGA but number 1 company for robbering, for now really shameful USA. We have to stop to buy from USA, same like buying Chinese is being not responsible for our planet, when China is number 1 company to kill our planet, USA being number 2. Get rid of your crazy, not only his ears.

Maduro was not a democratic president, but good if Venezuela resist to crazy robber Trump, same like Canada, Mexico, Greenland and probably Cuba, Nicaragua and Colombia to come. Stop US robbers.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3045700]Even your endless shrimp argument means egg all your over your face. Is the restaurant industry in trouble because of bad management or who is president? You cannot even give a straight answer, but you take both sides of an argument and declare victory? What else is new? [/QUOTE][B]Bankruptcies surged this year amid inflation, tariffs,[/B] December 31st, 2025, [URL]https://finance-commerce.com/2025/12/bankruptcies-surged-this-year-amid-inflation-tariffs/r/[/URL].

If you took you head out of your Fuhrer's ass, for just one second, you's see that more than anything else, his nonsensical dumbass tariffs are bankrupting Americans, in spades. Every industry from the restaurant, manufacturing, construction, to our small businesses and farming industry. Bankruptcies have skyrocketed under your Fuhrer, to all time highs in 2025 and not seen since the Great Recession.

[B]More than 700 US companies went bankrupt in 2025 a 14% jump from last year,[/B] December 29th, 2025, [URL]https://nypost.com/2025/12/29/business/more-than-700-us-companies-went-bankrupt-in-2025-a-14-jump-from-last-year/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3045700]Correlating whether people go out to eat with who is president is insane.[/QUOTE]Funny, since that was essentially the very insane argument, you put forth. Suffering from senility like your MAGA Fuhrer, are we?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3045700]That you two bring presidential politics into everything just shows how bad your TDS truly is.[/QUOTE]This statement shows how very little you obviously know, about the world of politics, you live in.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3045672]Trump wants to convince other countries to engage in new and improved trade deals and treaties with America while demonstrating how every 4 years another Repub Numbskull like him could slither into the WH to shit on and ignore the existing deals and treaties even he negotiated and agreed to previously.

At this point Trump has started more Wars than the imaginary number of Wars he falsely claims to have settled. No surprise, since he has also increased the cost of groceries damn I'm glad he invented that word and increased the Rate of Inflation vs this same reported Q3 Rate for last year under Biden, added $3-5 Trillion to his deficits while tanking the labor market and business investments and once again driving American farmers into Recession while gifting China with their international customers now lost forever, all of which is exactly the opposite of what dumb Repub hillbilly MAGA suckers were blissfully easily conned into thinking they were voting for.

Oh well. We tried.[/QUOTE]So very true [I]...and YES we did try[/I]!

But what is even more alarming, is the fact he's signaling and telling American's, Venezuelans and the world, he's going to [I]"manage Venezuelan economy/country"[/I]?

I mean, what a joke, the dude can barely "manage the American economy", as corporate and business bankruptcies are at all time highs, not seen since the Great Depression. But I guess if you consider pilfering and grifting as "managing", then he's doing a bang-up job. LOL!

Apart [NOPARSE] for the illegality of the strike on Maduro, the foreign interference, illegal coup and/or war with Venezuela, if I were the Venezuelans, I wouldn't let the MAGA Fuhrer, anywhere near their economy, let alone "manage" the funds from a kindergarten to 5th grade bake [/NOPARSE]sale.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045738]Nothing makes me happier than to see criminals burn. Trump should be King of universe for getting rid of that cockroach Marduro. I love it when the time for talk ends and the cockroaches run to the shadows.

Maduro ran a nation so poorly that millions of his own people fled and the only way they could generate money was to sell cocaine and poison Americans. What an amazing for USA to show its strength and show the world there is still a time when people shut the fuck up and let the men with the biggest guns put the drug dealing criminals behind bars.

An amazing day for Venezuela as well. So happy to see them liberated, free, and on to a path of prosperity through unity and trust with the USA.[/QUOTE]But Trump support criminal Netanyahou, and suck so deep since 1 year criminal dictator Putin. About Venezuela, his aim is to rob petrol, when he doesn't care about Venezuelans, when he doesn't care much about hundreds millions of US Americans. US Americans must really be no brained to reelect such crazy who tried to fuck Capitol and US constitution when he lost, what a guy for democracy. Very bad example for Russia about Ukraine and China about Taiwan.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045738]Nothing makes me happier than to see criminals burn. Trump should be King of universe for getting rid of that cockroach Marduro. I love it when the time for talk ends and the cockroaches run to the shadows.

Maduro ran a nation so poorly that millions of his own people fled and the only way they could generate money was to sell cocaine and poison Americans. What an amazing for USA to show its strength and show the world there is still a time when people shut the fuck up and let the men with the biggest guns put the drug dealing criminals behind bars.

An amazing day for Venezuela as well. So happy to see them liberated, free, and on to a path of prosperity through unity and trust with the USA.[/QUOTE]You like to see criminals burn? What about the pardon of known trafficker and convicted former president of Honduras Juan Orlando Hernandez? The reasoning of Trump and Co is entirely nonsensical!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045814]So very true [I]...and YES we did try[/I]!

But what is even more alarming, is the fact he's signaling and telling American's, Venezuelans and the world, he's going to [I]"manage Venezuelan economy/country"[/I]?

I mean, what a joke, the dude can barely "manage the American economy", as corporate and business bankruptcies are at all time highs, not seen since the Great Depression. But I guess if you consider pilfering and grifting as "managing", then he's doing a bang-up job. LOL!

Apart [NOPARSE] for the illegality of the strike on Maduro, the foreign interference, illegal coup and/or war with Venezuela, if I were the Venezuelans, I wouldn't let the MAGA Fuhrer, anywhere near their economy, let alone "manage" the funds from a kindergarten to 5th grade bake [/NOPARSE]sale.[/QUOTE]Well, the Venezuelans don't have a choice over the matter any more. I am not saying Trump is the best banker of all time or anything, but I do know one thing, he can't be worse than Maduro. Maduro had to go. Love or hate Trump, the execution of the plan which occurred under his administration was flawless. Compare that to the Iraq pull out under Biden and it now looks like Biden's ineptitude can only be explained that he intentionally ran his operation so bad to just hurt the image of the US military on purpose.

Trump's list of accomplishments is growing by the week. Cuba will soon follow the will of freedom and democracy of the Cuban people and not socialist communists that support Maduro.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045814]So very true [I]...and YES we did try[/I]!

But what is even more alarming, is the fact he's signaling and telling American's, Venezuelans and the world, he's going to [I]"manage Venezuelan economy/country"[/I]?

I mean, what a joke, the dude can barely "manage the American economy", as corporate and business bankruptcies are at all time highs, not seen since the Great Depression. But I guess if you consider pilfering and grifting as "managing", then he's doing a bang-up job. LOL!

Apart [NOPARSE] for the illegality of the strike on Maduro, the foreign interference, illegal coup and/or war with Venezuela, if I were the Venezuelans, I wouldn't let the MAGA Fuhrer, anywhere near their economy, let alone "manage" the funds from a kindergarten to 5th grade bake [/NOPARSE]sale.[/QUOTE]Not illegal -- The fake dementia Joe Presidency wanted scumbag Maduro out too-- Our president is enforcing law according to article 2 --Completely legal to arrest the cumBag Maduro.

Venezuela need and wants the USA to help-- Just ask the millions of Venezuelans celebrating in the streets-.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3045890]You like to see criminals burn? What about the pardon of known trafficker and convicted former president of Honduras Juan Orlando Hernandez? The reasoning of Trump and Co is entirely nonsensical![/QUOTE]Most likely he is helping Trump with intel and bringing down the cartels-- The war on drugs just started in 2025.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3045890]You like to see criminals burn? What about the pardon of known trafficker and convicted former president of Honduras Juan Orlando Hernandez? The reasoning of Trump and Co is entirely nonsensical![/QUOTE]Trump Administration determined he was wrongfully convicted and is not a criminal. Trump is a social justice warrior for freeing a man wrongfully persecuted against. I hope world treats Trump fairly and gives him the Nobel Peace Prize for taking out cockroach Maduro.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045896]Well, the Venezuelans don't have a choice over the matter any more. I am not saying Trump is the best banker of all time or anything, but I do know one thing, he can't be worse than Maduro. Maduro had to go. Love or hate Trump, the execution of the plan which occurred under his administration was flawless. Compare that to the Iraq pull out under Biden and it now looks like Biden's ineptitude can only be explained that he intentionally ran his operation so bad to just hurt the image of the US military on purpose.

Trump's list of accomplishments is growing by the week. Cuba will soon follow the will of freedom and democracy of the Cuban people and not socialist communists that support Maduro.[/QUOTE]Uh. You might be referring to Biden's highly successful pullout and end of the War in Afghanistan. But none of us can be sure what you mean with such a loose grasp of even the most recent, fully-reported in Real News facts so easily available to you.

Guess what; on his worst day Joe Biden was and still is cognitively competent enough to know the difference between Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and that nobody settled a War between "Aberbijian" and Albania, as Donald Trump so proudly announced he did.

Biden's pullout from Afghanistan was the least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in the History of Warfare. If you can cite a less deadly one, please do so now. Making one up out of pure MAGA fantasy doesn't count.

And it was particularly successful given the horrific conditions and crippling reduction in overall troops left by Trump in his unconditional surrender to the Taliban.

Yes, the withdrawal was marred by a single suicide bomber tragically killing 13 military personnel, his having strolled through the near zero security measures granted to the Taliban by Trump in his unconditional surrender to them. A non partisan study of that bombing determined it to be "unpreventable" given the conditions handed to Biden and the USA Military by Trump.

See, your "tough on criminals" Donald Trump agreed to release 5,000 violent jihadists from the Afghanistan prisons and set them free into the country as part of his unconditional surrender to the Taliban. Among them would have been many suicide bomber candidates.

That is similar to your "tough of criminals" Donald Trump pardoning and releasing into America the 1600 convicted criminals he had led into bloody battle on American soil in their mission to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and attack, maim, kill and assassinate a few cops and duly-elected officials along the way.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045897]Not illegal -- The fake dementia Joe Presidency wanted scumbag Maduro out too-- Our president is enforcing law according to article 2 --Completely legal to arrest the cumBag Maduro.

Venezuela need and wants the USA to help-- Just ask the millions of Venezuelans celebrating in the streets-.[/QUOTE]Do Venezuela want Trump rob their wealth, when already not so good economics situation since a while. Ukraine don t want to be robbed by Trump and his 40 robbers. Same for Greenland. Seem new business for USA, rather than producing quality. Is it what mean MAGA?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045897]Not illegal -- The fake dementia Joe Presidency wanted scumbag Maduro out too-- Our president is enforcing law according to article 2 --Completely legal to arrest the cumBag Maduro.

Venezuela need and wants the USA to help-- Just ask the millions of Venezuelans celebrating in the streets-.[/QUOTE]No they don't Chavistas hate you gringo invaders and the rest of the world is following suite.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045808]Bankruptcies surged this year amid inflation, tariffs[/QUOTE]You Dem cultists and your stupid tariffs are like global warming / climate change all over again. Every bad weather event was climate change. Is your party run by Americans or the Chinese? You keep bragging about how great China is. Maybe that is it. If only China could dump all their cheap shit on our shores, all would be well.

Spirit went bankrupt last year. Rite Aid has been on the verge for decades. Their bonds were selling for a quarter on the dollar 15 years ago. Hooters has competitors with better food and the reason for going, the hot women, no longer exists as the hotties are on OF now. 23 and me has had their data base breached and has handed over genetic profiles to the government. There is not one fucking thing Kamla fucking Harris would have done to save these businesses. In fact, they all earned their bankruptcies.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045808]Funny, since that was essentially the very insane argument, you put forth. Suffering from senility like your MAGA Fuhrer, are we?[/QUOTE]The government forced restaurants to close during the pandemic and both Trump and Biden did that.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3045808]If you took you head out of your Fuhrer's ass, for just one second, you's see that more than anything else, his nonsensical dumbass tariffs are bankrupting Americans[/QUOTE]Oh please! Whatever Trump's record was, you were going to blast it, and you want proof? Your governor / VP candidate that you all thought was so great is not running for re-election. Why? Why is there no fucking comment about that? That is the guy you all thought was great. If only Trump ran the USA like Tampon Timmy ran Minnesota right?

Your VP candidate had those immigrants, the ones you Dems loved so much, stealing our country blind. Elon Musk saw that and volunteered to look into and what did you Dems do? You called him President Musk and firebombed his dealerships. How dare you tell us about how to run an economy. All you Dems do is steal from the producers and use that money to pay people to vote for you.

Do you admit to being wrong about Doge and Musk? Hmmm? Until you Dems own your actions on Musk and Doge, you should shut the hell up about the economy. You cannot steal your way to prosperity you fool.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045897]Not illegal -- The fake dementia Joe Presidency wanted scumbag Maduro out too-- Our president is enforcing law according to article 2 --Completely legal to arrest the cumBag Maduro.

Venezuela need and wants the USA to help-- Just ask the millions of Venezuelans celebrating in the streets-.[/QUOTE]It boggles the mind to see that a Dem would say Maduro, the drunk as hell Kamala, and Tampon Timmy know how to make money and Elon Musk and Donald Trump do not. Tampon Timmy and Maduro were complete grifters and Kamala got billions for her campaign and ran it so badly into the ground she had to have her debt paid off by the DNC.

All the Dems do ever do is take pot shots at Trump. They never even get into specifics. Venezuela has to get their oil back flowing again, and their infrastructure is shit. Trump has said American oil companies will be allowed to invest and others won't be. It is fair game to attack that policy. Chevron has stayed in Venezuela while Exxon got the hell out, and I do not think Exxon is anxious to get back in. Venezuela needs all the foreign investment it can get, and I do not think it is smart to exclude other nations from investing, but the difference is that I have faith Trump will change course if his policy does not work out.

When Trump brought all those ships close to Venezuela, I knew he had a different kind of plan. He was not going to follow the GW Bush, Obama, Hiliary Clinton disasters which was to kill a foreign leader and leave the nation a leaderless train wreck afterwards. So it is good Trump has a different plan, and I hope it works because we sure as hell know what does not.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045938]Most likely he is helping Trump with intel and bringing down the cartels-- The war on drugs just started in 2025.[/QUOTE]Lots of Trumptards drinking the kool-aid. Not before Honduras puts him in prison! LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045945]Trump Administration determined he was wrongfully convicted and is not a criminal. Trump is a social justice warrior for freeing a man wrongfully persecuted against. I hope world treats Trump fairly and gives him the Nobel Peace Prize for taking out cockroach Maduro.[/QUOTE]Now Trump will run Venezuela. LOL.

Let's see if Trump and wis cankles can make it up there. Don't forget that make-up to cover those bruised hands!

And not in a funny way. A sad way.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046010]It boggles the mind to see that a Dem would say Maduro, the drunk as hell Kamala, and Tampon Timmy [/QUOTE]I'm sure your mind being boggled isn't an unusual event. It's just a knee slapper that you have all these nicknames for the dems, but lose your shit when someone says "diaper donny" or "pete kegsbreath" etc. MAGAs really are children.

[QUOTE=="Elvis"]All the Dems do ever do is take pot shots at Trump. They never even get into specifics. [/QUOTE]No surprise to anyone, but your reading and comprehension skills suffer. Just a casual read through some of the stuff folks have posted her about trump are filled with detail. Just not detail that you can absorb and understand.

[QUOTE]When Trump brought all those ships close to Venezuela, I knew he had a different kind of plan. He was not going to follow the GW Bush, Obama, Hiliary Clinton disasters which was to kill a foreign leader and leave the nation a leaderless train wreck afterwards. So it is good Trump has a different plan, and I hope it works because we sure as hell know what does not.[/QUOTE]Trump has no plan, and you didn't know shit. They're counting on that though.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3045992]Do Venezuela want Trump rob their wealth, when already not so good economics situation since a while. Ukraine don t want to be robbed by Trump and his 40 robbers. Same for Greenland. Seem new business for USA, rather than producing quality. Is it what mean MAGA?[/QUOTE]LOL-- Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on Earth-- So glad fake president dementia Joe is not giving our billions away anymore-- We need to let Russia and Ukraine settle their differences and stay the fuck out of it.

Greenland whether a USA colony or not shall be under USA control as it should be-- The USA shall once again have total Dominion over the western hemisphere-- Get used to that.

By the way Obama gave Ukraine to Russia.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046009]Spirit went bankrupt last year. Rite Aid has been on the verge for decades. Their bonds were selling for a quarter on the dollar 15 years ago. Hooters has competitors with better food and the reason for going, the hot women, no longer exists as the hotties are on OF now. 23 and me has had their data base breached and has handed over genetic profiles to the government. There is not one fucking thing Kamla fucking Harris would have done to save these businesses. In fact, they all earned their bankruptcies.[/QUOTE]Dude, for all your huffing-and-puffing, it still doesn't take away from the fact that, in the first year of your MAGA Fuhrer's term, 700 US companies went bankrupt in 2025, a record 14% jump from last year and record levels, not seen since the Great Depression. That just pathetic governing and economic policies, from your lame-duck president, and we're only in year #1, into this nightmare!

[B]Bottom Line: [/B]The 700 US companies going bankrupt, [I]a 14% YOY increase...HAPPENED[/I] on your Fuhrer's watch, and largely due his dumbass tariff policies!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046009] Elon Musk saw that and volunteered to look into and what did you Dems do? You called him President Musk and firebombed his dealerships. How dare you tell us about how to run an economy. All you Dems do is steal from the producers and use that money to pay people to vote for you. ...

Do you admit to being wrong about Doge and Musk?[/QUOTE][B]We still don’t really know what Elon Musk’s Doge actually did,[/B] December, 30th, 2025, [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/30/elon-musk-doge-impact-us-government[/URL].

And my fav of the two articles: [B]How Did DOGE Disrupt So Much While Saving So Little?[/B] December, 23rd, 2025, [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/politics/doge-musk-trump-analysis.html[/URL].

A recent Senate report, also found, that DOGE's chaotic methods, such as paying employees not to work, may have created $21.7 billion in new waste. In short, DOGE serves as a case study in how a poorly defined, [B]ideologically driven bullshit[/B] approach to so called "government efficiency", just increases disruption and human cost, without achieving any such stated financial or efficiency goals.

Good riddance and [I]R.I.P. DOGE[/I]!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045737]6 months to build wind farms and the wind if free so the energy is free right? And the wind wills last 600 years and also cure cancer too LOL?[/QUOTE]Dude, don't be so freakin' naive! Anyway, it doesn't behoove you!

Today, it has never been easier, or taken very much time and / or effort, to research these things. With a quick search and you'll find, China is rapidly building out wind farms, in as little as 30 hours for individual turbines. Overall, the country is installing [I][b]the equivalent of five large nuclear power stations[/b][/I] worth of renewables every week, indicating a very fast buildout pace. [URL]https://eaxchange.engineersaustralia.org.au/studentsofengineersaustralia/discussion/china-is-installing-the-wind-and-solar-equivalent-of-five-large-nuclear-power-stations-per-week[/URL], July 18th, 2024 or [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_China[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045737]Stick to facts please. [/QUOTE]Yeah, because nothing says facts or "misleading", like doing a simple Google search, a 10 yrs old, 5th grader, could perform.

You know, ACTUAL FACTS, such as, [I]"...Britain has over 16 GW and 15 GW of operational offshore and onshore wind capacity, ...with ambitious plans to reach 50 GW by 2030"[/I][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshore_wind_power_in_the_United_Kingdom[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045737]Your posts are just so misleading. [/QUOTE]Really? Or could it be, you're just easily baffled and fooled by concepts, ideas and facts, that are represented in plain English, to establish a line of thought and reasoning, that clearly substantiates, said arguments and counterpoints, in this debate? Is that what you're call "misleading"?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045737]Building wind farms up and down are coasts when we are 10 years away from nuclear fusion is insanely dumb and horrible for the environment. Maybe it is
cheaper, [/QUOTE]Glad to here you say it and admit to them being cheaper! But there's no maybes about it [B]...solar and wind are cheaper![/B]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3045737]still doesn't justify building it because it destroys the environment and takes up far too much space. And when the [b]whole wind farm needs to be replaced every 7 years,[/b] my gut tells me it is not the cheapest form. Keep up the slandering scum job of green energy being at all logical. Fraud.[/QUOTE]Yes, solar and wind, have their drawbacks, but compared with dirty fossil fuels and nuclear projects, the land space / area issue, isn't really a "big deal", when applied to baron / unused land, bodies of water or agrivoltaics (lowering water consumption and enhancing crop yields).

While nuclear fusion, may or may not be 10 years away, [I][b]"How do you propose the U.S. meet and account for the rising increase in demand for electricity, in this AI/data center age?[/b][/I].

BTW, I'd love to see the [U]article, FACTS and/or data[/U] on the replacement of wind turbines, [B]every 7 years,[/B] according to your post and [I][b]"your gut"?[/b][/I]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046056]LOL-- Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on Earth..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're a real thought leader when it comes to international affairs. So you're saying that UKR is even more corrupt that the current US administration? Wow. That sounds bad. I'm sure you're prepared with tons of examples to share with us.

[QUOTE==="Woodshed"]Greenland whether a USA colony or not shall be under USA control as it should be-- The USA shall once again have total Dominion over the western hemisphere-- Get used to that.[/QUOTE]So you're saying this is all just about the western hemisphere? Don't you think we should start with Cuba? That sure seems more relevant than Greenland. BTW. Dominion doesn't require capitalization.

[QUOTE]By the way Obama gave Ukraine to Russia.[/QUOTE]Congratulations! This is the only accurate thing I've seen you type in all your superfluous posts here in the politics section.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046056]LOL-- Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on Earth-- So glad fake president dementia Joe is not giving our billions away anymore-- We need to let Russia and Ukraine settle their differences and stay the fuck out of it.

Greenland whether a USA colony or not shall be under USA control as it should be-- The USA shall once again have total Dominion over the western hemisphere-- Get used to that.

By the way Obama gave Ukraine to Russia.[/QUOTE]You don't understand g how empiric system are working. They are corrupted and depend on expension to survive untill they collapse on themselve. Ukraine doesn't need USA to have a sustainable economy and is never going to be a threat for the american, but when putin empire will get the whole ukrayne they are going to look foir their necxt target and will rince and repeat untill they reach the atlantic. At this moment usa will have the chines on the pacific side and the russia on the atlantic one. We are all going to be dead long time before it happen, so on short term its better for the lving one of america to don't give a shit about it, but on the long term the future generation are going to have to deal 2 greedy empire fed by european and asian conquered ressource.

Biden was thinking the old way, the one who seen the WW2 era, trump is an oligarch who reached the higher level of power in usa and want to be like putin and xi pin.

Oh my god. Let's get to world war 3 already, I'm so tired of this waiting. Armageddon baby!

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3046100]Oh my god. Let's get to world war 3 already, I'm so tired of this waiting. Armageddon baby![/QUOTE]And you also want to fight for your country army? I hope You do, at least, ready to die and to receive a medal.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046056]LOL-- Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on Earth-- So glad fake president dementia Joe is not giving our billions away anymore-- We need to let Russia and Ukraine settle their differences and stay the fuck out of it.

Greenland whether a USA colony or not shall be under USA control as it should be-- The USA shall once again have total Dominion over the western hemisphere-- Get used to that.

By the way Obama gave Ukraine to Russia.[/QUOTE]Western world don't want US robbers. Venezuela also don't want.

[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3046047]Trump has no plan, and you didn't know shit. They're counting on that though.[/QUOTE]If you want to criticize his plan, have at it. There's no guarantee his plan is going to work. There is a very real possibility things could be worse not better with Maduro out of power. I pray that is not the case, but capturing Maduro is the easy part. Running the country is the hard part.

But if you say there is no plan, you are suffering from horrible TDS. If there is no plan, what are you griping about?

And who is they? The voices in your head? You might want to seek medical attention for that.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3046006]No they don't Chavistas hate you gringo invaders and the rest of the world is following suite.[/QUOTE]Somebody needs to tell V that Chavez is dead.

You have to wonder how many Dems would have voted for Chavez for president if he would have run as a Democrat. It is clear they adored him.

Venezuelan immigrant speaks out following Maduro's capture; says hope has been restored.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylfhA8pNgY[/URL]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046124]Venezuelan immigrant speaks out following Maduro's capture; says hope has been restored.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylfhA8pNgY[/URL][/QUOTE]That's one person. The rest of the regime that did the dirty work is there. However, we are not the world police. Are we going to do to China where Fentanyl is made and shipped out here? Of course not they are weakened like Venezuela.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046108]Somebody needs to tell V that Chavez is dead.

You have to wonder how many Dems would have voted for Chavez for president if he would have run as a Democrat. It is clear they adored him.[/QUOTE]Chavistas were the people who shared in the Trillions that Chaves Looted over the last 25 years. If Venezuela returns to a functional state these scumbags will be put in prison. I predict there will be many Lynchings like the French Revolution as Millions were murdered at the hands of these scumbags.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046074]Dude, don't be so freakin' naive! Anyway, it doesn't behoove you!

Today, it has never been easier, or taken very much time and / or effort, to research these things. With a quick search and you'll find, China is rapidly building out wind farms, in as little as 30 hours for individual turbines. Overall, the country is installing [I][b]the equivalent of five large nuclear power stations[/b][/I] worth of renewables every week, indicating a very fast buildout pace. [URL]https://eaxchange.engineersaustralia.org.au/studentsofengineersaustralia/discussion/china-is-installing-the-wind-and-solar-equivalent-of-five-large-nuclear-power-stations-per-week[/URL], July 18th, 2024 or [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_China[/URL].[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklUVkMPl8g[/URL]

Time Stamp: 2:21. Video is a very non biased practical approach to how effective wind farms are. In some areas, they do kind of make sense if you are ok with giving up that much space.

The coastal shores of the United States makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever for a wind farm location. We fish these shores, we use them for recreation, many important shipping lanes and harbors run through here. It makes so little fucking sense to build wind farms here it is frightening. Yet the last several years, NJ has to vigorously fight to keep them environment and economy destroying wind farms off our shores.

There is a very real green energy scam trying to persuade politicians to build solar and wind farms to take away power and influence from oil companies at all costs, even if it means raising energy prices and destroying the environment and local economy of where these farms will be constructed. After experiencing this first hand in NJ and witnessing the deviousness of the green energy scam, I will speak out against it as much as possible. It is a shame, because as I have said all along, in some scenarios and locations, wind and solar farms can be beneficial. They have unfortunately lost the trust of many people along the east coast because of the lack of transparency in trying to get these built off our shores.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GP6oL5vqxo[/URL]

Go research all the whale deaths off Jersey shore. It's not good for the environment.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3046100]Oh my god. Let's get to world war 3 already, I'm so tired of this waiting. Armageddon baby![/QUOTE]Lololololol.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046072]Dude, for all your huffing-and-puffing, it still doesn't take away from the fact that, in the first year of your MAGA Fuhrer's term, 700 US companies went bankrupt in 2025, a record 14% jump from last year and record levels, not seen since the Great Depression. That just pathetic governing and economic policies, from your lame-duck president, and we're only in year #1, into this nightmare![/QUOTE]Since the great recession you mean, but I must have missed your comments about all the stealing and fraud going on in the illegal immigrant communities. Maybe they somehow got deleted.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046072]The 700 US companies going bankrupt, a 14% YOY increase...HAPPENED on your Fuhrer's watch, and largely due his dumbass tariff policies![/QUOTE]You might want to get off the beach in Brazil and stop getting outraged and see how the real world works. Let's take your first bankruptcy example that was the biggest by assets, Spirit Airlines.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/16/jetblue-spirit-merger-block-in-win-for-bidens-justice-department.html[/URL]

The decision, handed down Tuesday, marks a victory for a Justice Department that has aggressively sought to block deals it views as anti-competitive.

"Today's ruling is a victory for tens of millions of travelers who would have faced higher fares and fewer choices had the proposed merger between JetBlue and Spirit been allowed to move forward," Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement. "The Justice Department will continue to vigorously enforce the nation's antitrust laws to protect American consumers. "

Spirit's market capitalization as of Tuesday's close was $666 million, less than a fifth of the purchase price JetBlue bid.

Yeah, well, that is great, and Spirit has filed for bankruptcy twice since this decision. Oops! So while you are babbling on about Trump causing bankruptcy, this bankruptcy is DIRECTLY due to Biden because if Biden's DOJ lets the merger go through, Spirit is bought out and there is no company to declare bankruptcy.

What you do not get about bankruptcy chapter 11 is that it is a means to shave off debt. You know the same thing you thought was so great with student loans? Cough, cough.

If Spirit files Chapter 7 bankruptcy, Jet Blue and the other airlines will buy the airplanes Spirit has and take over their routes. I mean, I loved that Spirit charged so much less than the other airlines did, and I used them but those cheap fares came at the expense of Spirit shareholders and debt holders. If management does not charge enough for their services, sorry, but that is not on Trump.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046072]We still dont really know what Elon Musks Doge actually did, December, 30th, 2025, https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/30/elon-musk-doge-impact-us-government

And my fav of the two articles: How Did DOGE Disrupt So Much While Saving So Little?December, 23rd, 2025, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/politics/doge-musk-trump-analysis.htm.

A recent Senate report, also found, that DOGE's chaotic methods, such as paying employees not to work, may have created $21.7 billion in new waste. In short, DOGE serves as a case study in how a poorly defined, ideologically driven bullshit approach to so called "government efficiency", just increases disruption and human cost, without achieving any such stated financial or efficiency goals.

Good riddance and R.I.P. DOGE![/QUOTE]Boy, we live in different worlds. In my world, the media is in full fledged retreat after being shown up by a 23 year old citizen reporter using a phone. I got this USA Today editorial in my yahoo feed today, [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/01/06/walz-dropping-out-minnesota-welfare-fraud/88031149007/[/URL]

The shocking part of this is not what is written but by whom. The yahoo feed and USA Today put out the same crap that you and Tooms do. It is always Dems good and Trump evil. It is so predictable I just ignore it, so who wrote this very critical opinion of Democrats and not what was in it was the surprise.

Then you had CBS News doing the mea culpa as well. I am shocked the Guardian and NY Times have not pulled these articles off. They have egg all over their face now for fighting DOGE.

Anyway, I must have missed why the economy that you claim is so spectacularly failing is not due in part to the untold billions in fraud and is all due to Trump. Maybe you can explain to everyone why defrauding the taxpayer and country out of billions is no big deal.

Or you can just do your usual and repeat your debunked point over and over like you always do.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046074]Dude, don't be so freakin' naive! Anyway, it doesn't behoove you!

Today, it has never been easier, or taken very much time and / or effort, to research these things. With a quick search and you'll find, China is rapidly building out wind farms, in as little as 30 hours for individual turbines. Overall, the country is installing [I][b]the equivalent of five large nuclear power stations[/b][/I] worth of renewables every week, indicating a very fast buildout pace. [URL]https://eaxchange.engineersaustralia.org.au/studentsofengineersaustralia/discussion/china-is-installing-the-wind-and-solar-equivalent-of-five-large-nuclear-power-stations-per-week[/URL], July 18th, 2024 or [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_China[/URL].[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI[/URL]

Here are some sobering facts:

It would 500 years for the world's currently largest battery factory "Tesla Plant" to store just one days worth of energy for just the USA. Solar and Wind do not produce energy in low winds or low light so batteries are necessary to produce constant energy.

A single 100 MW wind farm farm requires 900 tons of non renewable plastic.

By 2050, the waste in plastic from just solar panels will double all of today's plastic waste.

1 oil well produces 10 times more energy than one wind turbine, but here is the bad part. Energy storage. It costs 50 cents to store the oil energy from an oil well, but you need $200.00 in batteries to store the same amount of energy from a wind farm.

The more you look into this, the more you realize it just makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3045897]Not illegal -- The fake dementia Joe Presidency wanted scumbag Maduro out too-- Our president is enforcing law according to article 2 --Completely legal to arrest the cumBag Maduro.

Venezuela need and wants the USA to help-- Just ask the millions of Venezuelans celebrating in the streets-.[/QUOTE]The Venezuelan attack was illegal, by your MAGA Fuhrer. Isn't everything he does corrupt and illegal, anyways? LOL!

The attack on Venezuela is considered an illegal violation of the USA Constitution, [U]because it lacked congressional authorization[/U], which is required for military action. This is clearly outlined in [I][b]Article I, Section 8,[/b][/I] which only grants Congress the power to declare war, or acts of aggression on another sovereign entity.

[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3046047]And not in a funny way. A sad way.

I'm sure your mind being boggled isn't an unusual event. It's just a knee slapper that you have all these nicknames for the dems, but lose your shit when someone says "diaper donny" or "pete kegsbreath" etc. MAGAs really are children.

No surprise to anyone, but your reading and comprehension skills suffer. Just a casual read through some of the stuff folks have posted her about trump are filled with detail. Just not detail that you can absorb and understand.

[b]Trump has no plan, and you didn't know shit.[/b] They're counting on that though.[/QUOTE]That was a very interesting observational assessment of Elvis 2008, on this take of the ILLEGAL attack on Venezuela, by his MAGA Fuhrer.

The assessment was very astute, since Elvis 2008, prior to the 2024 election was [B]emphatically[/B] crowing, jawboning and blithering on about, how his MAGA Fuhrer would [U]NEVER[/U] put America into yet another senseless war. Suckered again by his Fuhrer!

And as you've said, [NOPARSE]"Trump has no plan", why...because just like Iraq, the MAGA Fuhrer and the clueless Repubs...are just like the [/NOPARSE]proverbial [I][b]"dog that caught the car"[/b][/I].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046104]If you want to criticize his plan, have at it. There's no guarantee his plan is going to work. There is a very real possibility things could be worse not better with Maduro out of power. I pray that is not the case, but capturing Maduro is the easy part. Running the country is the hard part.

But if you say there is no plan, you are suffering from horrible TDS. If there is no plan, what are you griping about?

And who is they? The voices in your head? You might want to seek medical attention for that.[/QUOTE]Like every Repub so-called president before him over the past 100 years, Trump had a plan. And the typical Repub plan is remarkably similar to the same plan Trump has defaulted to his entire life. That's why he chose the Republican Party for his political life instead of the Democratic Party.

Since Repub so-called presidents who take office following a Democratic president over at least the past 100 years have virtually without exception been handed historically positive economic trajectories and jobs creation results, their plan was to do something big, bold, brave, dramatic, different and "entertaining" that will most certainly produce opposite results. Which means they are now duty-bound to do whatever is necessary to reverse those positive economic trajectories into negative trajectories, wipe out millions of jobs and, far, far more often than not plunge America into a Great Depression or Great Depression ASAP, something unheard of during the previous Dem's presidency.

That's much easier than coming in as a Democrat saddled with recovering and pulling America out of those Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Historic Repub Jobs Destruction, right? It sure is! And it a perfect Party for lazy deadbeats and con artists to take refuge.

Again, that is why Trump chose to run as a Repub and not a Dem.

Now, in addition to having decades of experience fucking up, bankrupting, wiping out other peoples' investments and producing nothing but crap results since he was born into great wealth and squandered and lost all of daddy's money as Repubs have done over the past 100 years or more with tax-payers' money, jobs and livelihoods, Trump's plan is also to do whatever it takes to deflect attention from the crap results he just produced in whatever he was up to previously by doing something bigger, bolder and dumber that will almost certainly produce even crappier results.

Hence, invade a sovereign country, kidnap its unelected dictator, declare yourself the new unelected leader of the place, therefore simply another dictator, and leave the colossal mess of crap that idiocy is bound to produce to someone else to clean up. Probably a Dem.

Lather, wash, rinse and repeat.

It's the only plan that has ever worked for him in the past and fits perfectly with what he must have observed has worked for the Repub Party for a long, long time.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046154]That's one person.[/QUOTE]No, it is not and if you got your head out of your ass and actually talked to Venezuelans, they all say the same thing.

Do you think she is making this up? This is the problem with you Dems. Anything Trump does and you knock it. He is trying to make the lives of 30 million people better and all you do is bash him.

And this is just really, really insensitive and offensive. You losers freak out about pronouns but a person tells you that 20% of a country's population is eating out of the garbage, and you are like, "That is just one person."

In 2007, I was in Venezuela. The people were angry, paranoid, and unhappy back then. Walking in Caracas I was scared shitless about getting mugged. When I flew to Colombia, I could not believe the difference in attitude and the happiness of the people. I never thought I would see such a change in country going from the old USSR to Finland after the Berlin Wall fell. When I was in the USSR, people would speak in whispers they were so paranoid. In both cases, I left a country filled with miserable people to a country filled with happy ones.

In Venezuela, they have no hope, no rule of law, and no positive feelings about the future. Period. So STFU about your one person crap. That comment is unbelievably stupid.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046188]Like every Repub so-called president before him over the past 100 years, Trump had a plan. And the typical Repub plan is remarkably similar to the same plan Trump has defaulted to his entire life.[/QUOTE]That is the thing about you Mr. Binary. Hell, you cannot even say what the plan is. All you care about is whether there is a are or the behind it.

If Biden did the same thing as Trump, you would not shut up about how great Biden was, and everyone knows it. Thanks for admitting how biased and full of it you are.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046176]That was a very interesting observational assessment of Elvis 2008, on this take of the ILLEGAL attack on Venezuela, by his MAGA Fuhrer.[/QUOTE]God, you Dems are dumb. I love how you guys use terms like dictator, Fuhrer ETC in describing Trump and then say what he did was illegal. If he were a king or Fuhrer or dictator, he is the law, and you losers would never get to protest. That you losers were allowed to protest on no Kings day means there is no king!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046176]The assessment was very astute, since Elvis 2008, prior to the 2024 election was emphatically crowing, jawboning and blithering on about, how his MAGA Fuhrer would NEVERput America into yet another senseless war. Suckered again by his Fuhrer![/QUOTE]LOL. I think you have a problem with words. A war is when one country's army is shooting at another and there are casualties on both sides. In this case, the VP of Venezuela met with the generals in that country and the generals in Venezuela agreed not to resist our taking Maduro.

So we can add war to the endless list of words you Dems twist to mean what you want them to and not what they actually mean.

Did your comments about immigrants stealing billions from our economy get deleted again? I seem to keep missing your comments on why the economy is so bad because of Trump and why billions of dollars in theft does not matter. Maybe you should talk to an admin about that.

I must have also missed why you think DOGE was such a bad idea given how much stealing is going on.

And when people are caught stealing, are you Dems going to keep blaming Trump? Or keep attacking the people who find the stealing as racist? Or attack them physically? Or in Musk's case, destroy his property? Why don't you just come out and admit that if Democrats are stealing or destroying property, it is somehow good?

You and Tooms say all Democratic plans are great and all Republican plans suck. I keep waiting for you and Tooms and your vigorous defense of Tampon Timmy's brilliant economic plan, and there is nothing.

Are you bummed that Harris and Waltz did not turn the American economy into one like Minnesota?

People like you who think theft is no big deal should spend a weekend in Venezuela and really see what it is like to be scared your shit can be stolen at any second.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046157][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklUVkMPl8g[/URL]

Time Stamp: 2:21. Video is a very non biased practical approach to how effective wind farms are. In some areas, they do kind of make sense if you are ok with giving up that much space.

The coastal shores of the United States makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever for a wind farm location. We fish these shores, we use them for recreation, many important shipping lanes and harbors run through here. It makes so little fucking sense to build wind farms here it is frightening. Yet the last several years, NJ has to vigorously fight to keep them environment and economy destroying wind farms off our shores.[/QUOTE]Tell that to Britain and China, when both countries are installing wind at a phenomenal pace. With China installing [B]the equivalent of five (5) large nuclear power stations worth of renewables every week. [/B].[/QUOTE]You and I have very different opinion and version of what a scam is and isn't. You think that any crap, your Fuhrer says is a scam, [I]is a scam...it's not![/I] Stop being brainwashed by your Fuhrer!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046157]It is a shame, because as I have said all along, in some scenarios and locations, wind and solar farms can be beneficial. They have unfortunately lost the trust of many people along the east coast because of the lack of transparency in trying to get these built off our shores.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GP6oL5vqxo[/URL]

Go research all the whale deaths off Jersey shore. It's not good for the environment.[/QUOTE]So what if wind projects don't work in NJ? The rest of the world will be OK? I hope you get you're so called "cheap" nuclear power, built in NJ?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046163]Boy, we live in different worlds. In my world, the media is in full fledged retreat after being shown up by a 23 year old citizen reporter using a phone.[/QUOTE]No shit. Tell us, what's the zip code in MAGA never never land? I love the way you think anyone that doesn't want to be a cuck and suck orange man's dick has TDS. The fact is, you have Trump Cuck Syndrome. Now go wipe the nut off your chin.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046164][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI[/URL]

Here are some sobering facts:

It would 500 years for the world's currently largest battery factory "Tesla Plant" to store just one days worth of energy for just the USA. Solar and Wind do not produce energy in low winds or low light so batteries are necessary to produce constant energy.

A single 100 MW wind farm farm requires 900 tons of non renewable plastic.

By 2050, the waste in plastic from just solar panels will double all of today's plastic waste.

1 oil well produces 10 times more energy than one wind turbine, but here is the bad part. Energy storage. It costs 50 cents to store the oil energy from an oil well, but you need $200.00 in batteries to store the same amount of energy from a wind farm..[/QUOTE]Tell that to good ol' Texas!

Then see previous post where explain wind and solar, work just fine for the rest of the world, in spades in Britain and China, for example. And apparently, boat loads in Texas too!

[QUOTE] For the past 17 years, [b]Texas has led the U.S. in wind energy production.[/b] In 2022, Texas had 40,556 MW of installed capacity more than a quarter of all wind-sourced electricity in the U.S.7 Wind power generation surpassed the states nuclear generation for the first time in 2014 ...

Wind is the fourth-largest source of electricity generation in the country, [b]with enough power to serve the equivalent of 46 million homes.[/b] [url]https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/economic-data/energy/2023/wind.php[/url]

We project combined wind and solar generating capacity in Texas's power market will double by 2035, fueling a growing renewable share of total generation. [url]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=57100[/url][/QUOTE]Go ahead, tell that to the [I][b]46 million homes in the country[/b][/I] and [NOPARSE]to Texans like Elvis 2008...wind power is all just a [/NOPARSE]SCAM!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046163]Yeah, well, that is great, and Spirit has filed for bankruptcy twice since this decision. Oops! So while you are babbling on about Trump causing bankruptcy, this bankruptcy is DIRECTLY due to Biden because if Biden's DOJ lets the merger go through, Spirit is bought out and there is no company to declare bankruptcy.

What you do not get about bankruptcy chapter 11 is that it is a means to shave off debt. You know the same thing you thought was so great with student loans? Cough, cough.

If Spirit files Chapter 7 bankruptcy, Jet Blue and the other airlines will buy the airplanes Spirit has and take over their routes. I mean, I loved that Spirit charged so much less than the other airlines did, and I used them but those cheap fares came at the expense of Spirit shareholders and debt holders. If management does not charge enough for their services, sorry, but that is not on Trump.[/QUOTE]Hooray, for Spirit and Jet Blue, shareholders, holders of their debt and their flying customers. Now if only Jet Blue could come to the rescue of the record level 700 other companies that went into bankruptcy on your MAGA Fuhrer's watch, in 2025? Now wouldn't that be [I][b]something to actually crow about?[/b][/I].

But speaking of unwanted bankruptcies under your MAGA Fuhrer's watch and the shit-show Repub admin, 2026 should be yet another banner year for business and personal bankruptcies, as statistics indicate that 62% of personal bankruptcies are to be filed, due to Repubs not extending ACA medical care.

In 2025, there were approximately 533,949 personal bankruptcy filings, which represented a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge reflects the growing financial pressures faced by many households. [B]The Number of Bankruptcies Is Soaring in 2025, this represents a 15% increase over 2024,[/B] October, 10th 2025 [URL]https://www.capehart.com/the-number-of-bankruptcies-is-soaring-in-2025-consider-taking-steps-to-protect-your-rights-as-a-creditor/[/URL].

No doubt, I'm sure that just warms your bitter cold heart, to see your fellow hardworking Americans, suffering at the hands of your MAGA Fuhrer and shit-show Repubs, over ACA, personal and corporate bankruptcies.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046250]Tell that to good ol' Texas!

Then see previous post where explain wind and solar, work just fine for the rest of the world, in spades in Britain and China, for example. And apparently, boat loads in Texas too!

Go ahead, tell that to the [I][b]46 million homes in the country[/b][/I] and [NOPARSE]to Texans like Elvis 2008...wind power is all just a [/NOPARSE]SCAM![/QUOTE]It doesn't work just fine. When you commit that much of your energy sector to wind and power you destroy the environment and even more importantly you are paying out the ass to store the energy in batteries which rely on rare earth minerals most of which can only be sourced from adversarial nations such as China AND RUSSIA and even more importantly you have to deal with the rolling black outs when the wind dies and the skies darken.

Man, if only there was like two magic rocks and if you put them close to each they got hot and made magic energy all the time. Wouldn't that solve all this non sense about the best form of energy? Oh wait there is a magic rock that can do that! Uranium! Yayyyyy, problem solved!

But because of cry baby democrats who always want to believe in fairy tales because it makes their painful miserable lives a little less painful, we have to fight to keep the bet form of energy production.

Having 50% or 60% of your nations energy production come from unreliable sources like solar and wind is some dumb fuck shit when you can just go nuclear which doesn't destroy the environment, is cheaper, and in 10 years will not even produce any waste what so ever, even though the amount it waste it produces now is so small it is 100% insignificant to the debate.

Shut up with the green scam bull shit and use logical sources for your energy. Britain already fell to the scam because of their woke hive mind and now they deal with a very real energy and cost of lviing crisis. Their dumbasses. It didn't work. Germany deals with rolling black outs!! It doesn't work! Don't let shit near USA. Yes a few scattered wind farms here and there are fine. 3 or 4 percent of the total energy production, but to go to 50 or 60 percent is ludicrous!!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046250]Tell that to good ol' Texas!

Then see previous post where explain wind and solar, work just fine for the rest of the world, in spades in Britain and China, for example. And apparently, boat loads in Texas too!

Go ahead, tell that to the [I][b]46 million homes in the country[/b][/I] and [NOPARSE]to Texans like Elvis 2008...wind power is all just a [/NOPARSE]SCAM![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14220893/Germanys-wind-power-higher-bills.html[/URL]

Dumbasses! Germany and UK going broke because of Wind and Solar.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046254]Hooray, for Spirit and Jet Blue, shareholders, holders of their debt and their flying customers. Now if only Jet Blue could come to the rescue of the record level 700 other companies that went into bankruptcy on your MAGA Fuhrer's watch[/QUOTE]You do not understand what happened with Spirit nor do you want to. You have not given one example of a business going bankrupt due to Trump. Not one! And this may shock you but not all bankruptcies are bad, and I will give you an example.

Is Trump bankrupting all those child care centers and health care centers in Minnesota a bad thing? Oh snap! That you Dems cannot even deal with Minnesota says it all. Your TDS is so bad that you cannot even talk about it. Whatever economic events happen under Trump, now you fools have no way of saying Harris / Waltz would have been better.

Of all the bad stuff you babble on about with Trump, not one thing you have ever mentioned has affected me. When Tooms mentioned higher gas prices, I was like WTF are you talking about? The only thing I noticed with gas prices was how cheap they were.

But the one thing that has changed and has hurt me economically under Trump is that when I travel abroad. The dollar has plunged in value. Most other Americans do not travel as much as I do, so it does not affect them as much, but the weak dollar probably is due to tariffs. It looks like other nations are buying gold and other currencies versus buying dollars.

But that is half the story. The reason your and Tooms economic analysis is so bad is that in most cases what is bad for one party may be better for another. If you work abroad or do business aboard, a weak dollar is beneficial to you. Furthermore, if you are trying to get foreign companies to build their factories here, another Trump goal, a weak dollar is beneficial as well.

The problem is that type of investment has not come in, and it is easy to understand why. There was a guy saying he could build a robotics company that produced shoes that could compete price wise with China. If the tariff rate is 10% on Chinese shoes, it is going to be tough for him to make money, but if it is 100%, he is going to be making serious bank. Thing is early on the tariff rates with China changed by the day as Trump got in a pissing contest with Xi. When the rate is 0% one day and 125% the next and 50% the next, I am going to say, "Fuck my idea of making shoes! I am taking my money to a strip club and enjoy myself". It is fair to be critical of that.

But there was a great GDP number and the market is up at all time highs. I think that is mostly due to the AI boom which has little to with presidential politics, but any good economic news under Trump with you guys HAS to be ignored. That is part of your cult.

And that is why you Dems have no credibility. It is like you made up your minds that tariffs were going to cause inflation and then made up there was inflation. You bring up this stupid bankruptcy shit and cannot link one bankruptcy that could be blamed on Trump. None of you have mentioned the weaker dollar or the lack of non-AI business investment. What that tells me is that you suffer such bad TDS, you cannot even criticize him right.

And the real thing that pisses me off about you dumb Dems is that Trump listens. He is smart and does change course when something is not working. The days of him announcing huge tariffs on leaders he does not like have stopped.

Peter Zeihan went through this whole thing about how Trump was so stupid. He was going to use the USA military to invade Venezuela and was going to cause all these deaths due to the shitty Venezuelan roads and how many Venezuelans are armed. There was no way that Trump could take over Venezuela without American bloodshed. Oops!

Of course, Zeihan cannot admit he was wrong, and neither can any of you TDS suffering Dems.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046229]That is the thing about you Mr. Binary. Hell, you cannot even say what the plan is. All you care about is whether there is a are or the behind it.

If Biden did the same thing as Trump, you would not shut up about how great Biden was, and everyone knows it. Thanks for admitting how biased and full of it you are.[/QUOTE]If Biden did the same thing?

Why in the world would Biden or any other Dem suddenly decide to pull some big, stupid stunt like that in order to distract attention and focus from their usual Great Dem Economic Recovery from still another Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession or Historic Repub Jobs Destruction?

See, the Dem plan is to initiate, establish, enhance and embellish positive economic, jobs creation and national security trajectories and results, not to reverse them, crash the economy and wipe out millions of jobs. The latter is the Repub Party's plan. And therefore Trump's plan. Once begun, it's then just a matter of Repubs winging it into whatever direction will likely produce the crappiest results for America and the American Working Men and Women.

Sorry, but your comment makes no sense. Biden wasn't interested in finding some way to deflect attention and awareness away from his historically positive economic recovery, economic expansion and jobs creation results into some big, stupid counter-productive stunt. And neither would Trump or any other Repub IF there ever was a time when those were indeed the results Trump and other Repubs had produced. Which there hasn't been.

Trump's obviously weak economy vs the Biden-Harris solid hand-off.

[B]Private payrolls rose 41,000 in December, slightly below expectations, ADP says.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/07/adp-jobs-report-december-2025.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Here is the AI Overview for the new private-sector jobs creation in the 1st year of Trump's second disastrous term vs the last year of Biden's historically successful term as reported by ADP:

[QUOTE]ADP Research Institute data shows that [b]the private sector created approximately 780,000 jobs in 2025 (as of the end of the year) compared to about 2,200,000 jobs in 2024.[/b][/QUOTE]The CPI / Rate of Inflation through November 2025, the latest numbers we have for 2025, vs November 2024, as reported by the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics?

Unchanged at 2.7%.

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_12112024.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf[/URL]

However, it should be noted that the 2024 number was reported without Biden firing and threatening to fire any BLS and Fed officials for daring to report accurate numbers that might make him look bad and without him shutting down the government for 2 of those pertinent months in order to hide from the numbers and compromise the amount and quality of the data required to arrive at more accurate numbers.

As Trump did.

Now, while Trump and his MAGAs have been doing cartwheels over the reported 4. 3% 3rd Quarter 2025 GDP Growth number, please note Trump's firing and threatening to fire any BLS and Fed officials who dare to report accurate numbers that might make him look bad, as cited above. Something neither Biden nor any other Dem ever did:

[URL]https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/gross-domestic-product-3rd-quarter-2025-initial-estimate-and-corporate-profits[/URL]

But, oh lookie (see screenshot below); under Biden the USA economy racked up SIX Quarters of GDP Growth greater than 4.3% and all while Trump and his MAGAs were lying that it was the "worst economy ever"!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046312]If Biden did the same thing?
Why in the world would Biden or any other Dem suddenly decide to pull some big, stupid stunt like that in order to distract attention and focus from their usual Great Dem Economic Recovery from still another Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession or Historic Repub Jobs Destruction?
Sorry, but your comment makes no sense. [/QUOTE]Sen. Chuck Schumer.

THEN: "And the President brags about his Venezuela policy. Give us a break. He hasn't brought an end to the Maduro regime. The Maduro regime is more powerful today and more entrenched today than it was when the President began. " (2/5/20).

NOW: "This is reckless. And the American people are just, this morning, in fear of what's going to happen here. " (1/4/26).

Sen. Dick Durbin.

THEN: "The people of Venezuela deserve better than this. We can't allow this President's short attention span to stop us from delivering on our promise to help the Venezuelan people rebuild their country. Though President Trump may seem ready to throw in the towel, I stand committed to aiding the people of Venezuela. " (6/20/19).

NOW: "I disagree with President Trump's use of USA Military forces without Congressional approval & worry deeply about this Admin's follow through on foreign policy interventions. " (1/3/26).

Sen. Chris Van Hollen.

THEN: "The United States is now going to use its levers and influence to push for a negotiation to have a transition to the truly elected leader. Obviously, we know Maduro and his cronies do not want to go quietly into the night, but the United States needs to work with its partners and allies in the region to ratchet up the pressure." (8/2/24).

NOW: "It is an illegal act of war to replace Maduro. " (1/3/26).

Sen. Chris Murphy.

THEN: "If Trump cared about consistency, he would make the realist case for intervention in Venezuela (getting rid of Maduro is good for the United States) rather than trying to pretend his Administration all of the sudden cares about toppling anti-democratic regimes. " (1/23/19).

NOW: "The invasion of Venezuela has nothing to do with American security. Venezuela is not a security threat to the USA " (1/4/26).

Sen. Tim Kaine.

THEN: "This is a deeply concerning development for Venezuelans and for the entire region, since instability abroad impacts us here at home, too. " (9/2/24).

NOW: "President Trump's unauthorized military attack on Venezuela to arrest Maduro. Is a sickening return to a day when the United States asserted the right to dominate the internal political affairs of all nations in the Western Hemisphere. " (1/3/26).

Sen. Amy Klobuchar.

THEN: "I have of course supported bringing in the new president and delegitimizing the Maduro government. You always leave things on the table. " (5/2/19).

NOW: "I have strongly opposed sending American forces into harm's way in Venezuela without authorization from Congress. We should not put Americans at risk in this way without careful deliberation among the people's elected representatives. Wars for regime change can lead to unintended consequences. "(1/3/26).

Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

THEN: "Maduro is a dictator and a crook who has wrecked his country's economy, dismantled its democratic institutions, and profited while his people suffer. The United States should lead the international community in addressing Venezuela's humanitarian crisis and supporting regional efforts to negotiate a political transition. " (7/30/2019).

NOW: "What does it mean that the USA Will 'run' Venezuela, and what will Trump do next around the world? The American people voted for lower costs, not for Trump's dangerous military adventurism overseas that won't make the American people safer. " (1/3/26).

Rep. Jamie Raskin.

THEN: "The democratic world must stand up for the rule of law in Venezuela and oppose Maduro's assault on the electoral process and free speech. The right-wing attack on democratic institutions anywhere is a threat to freedom everywhere. " (8/2/24).

NOW: "Trump is not only violating our Constitution, but he is shredding the rules-based international order created after World War II, whose essential building block is the political sovereignty and territorial integrity of each nation. " (1/4/26).

Rep. Darren Soto.

THEN: "Honored to speak with at cdvorlando yesterday about Venezuelan TPS, raising the reward for Maduro's capture to $100 M, and bringing democracy back to Venezuela. " (10/6/24).

NOW: "Trump's trading one dictator for another just to get oil? This will do NOTHING to help my constituents' family members who just lost their TPS and still can't return home. " (1/5/26).

Well, at least you are consistent Tooms, consistently full of it but consistent. When you talk about that great economy, are you talking about Minnesota? Or Somalia?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046250]Tell that to good ol' Texas!

Then see previous post where explain wind and solar, work just fine for the rest of the world, in spades in Britain and China, for example. And apparently, boat loads in Texas too!

Go ahead, tell that to the 46 million homes in the country and to Texans like Elvis 2008...wind power is all just a SCAM![/QUOTE]You are picking the one state in the country that produces the most oil and gas to say how great green energy is? LOL.

If you knew squat, you would know that the productive wind power is mostly in West Texas which is scarcely populated with few trees where the land is cheap. That supports Ram's point.

I still don't get you with your stupid green energy always good crap. Do you understand that putting up wind mills in West Texas makes sense because the wind is always blowing and the land is cheap, and it does not make sense in places like East Texas where the land is more expensive and the wind does not consistently blow?

Texas has a rational energy policy. When green energy makes economic sense, we use it. When it does not, we don't. You dumb Dems want to force everyone to use green energy all the time which is crazy.

If you drive around the city, especially one with warm weather, having an all electric car makes sense, but you would be fucking crazy to want to use an all electric car to drive around the country. You would have to spend half your trip charging the damned car.

Biden wanted to put rapid charging stations across the whole country, and the plan was a complete disaster. I thought the solution of swapping out depleted batteries for precharged ones made sense as that only takes a few minutes versus hours, so Biden's dumb plan was outdated even before it began.

Thing is if there is money to be made in charging up cars or swapping batteries then private industry will produce the products. Why you need government using tax payer dollars to force this crap down taxpayer's throats, because green energy good, is beyond me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046228]No, it is not and if you got your head out of your ass and actually talked to Venezuelans, they all say the same thing.

Do you think she is making this up? This is the problem with you Dems. Anything Trump does and you knock it. He is trying to make the lives of 30 million people better and all you do is bash him.

And this is just really, really insensitive and offensive. You losers freak out about pronouns but a person tells you that 20% of a country's population is eating out of the garbage, and you are like, "That is just one person."

In 2007, I was in Venezuela. The people were angry, paranoid, and unhappy back then. Walking in Caracas I was scared shitless about getting mugged. When I flew to Colombia, I could not believe the difference in attitude and the happiness of the people. I never thought I would see such a change in country going from the old USSR to Finland after the Berlin Wall fell..[/QUOTE]It's the same regime you dummy. The disaster of Venezuela isn't going away because Maduro is no longer there. What we have now is different dog same fleas. The infrastructure of Venezuela will years to fix and your Trump will be out of office and fertilizer when that happens.

This nonsense about "running" Venezuela could not fool anyone except Trumptards like yourself.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046228]No, it is not and if you got your head out of your ass and actually talked to Venezuelans, they all say the same thing.

Do you think she is making this up? This is the problem with you Dems. Anything Trump does and you knock it. He is trying to make the lives of 30 million people better and all you do is bash him.

And this is just really, really insensitive and offensive. You losers freak out about pronouns but a person tells you that 20% of a country's population is eating out of the garbage, and you are like, "That is just one person."

In 2007, I was in Venezuela. The people were angry, paranoid, and unhappy back then. Walking in Caracas I was scared shitless about getting mugged. When I flew to Colombia, I could not believe the difference in attitude and the happiness of the people. I never thought I would see such a change in country going from the old USSR to Finland after the Berlin Wall fell. When I was in the USSR, people would speak in whispers they were so paranoid. In both cases, I left a country filled with miserable people to a country filled with happy ones.

In Venezuela, they have no hope, no rule of law, and no positive feelings about the future. Period. So STFU about your one person crap. That comment is unbelievably stupid.[/QUOTE]It's the same regime you dummy. The disaster of Venezuela isn't going away because Maduro is no longer there. What we have now is different dog same fleas. The infrastructure of Venezuela will years to fix and your Trump will be out of office and fertilizer when that happens.

This nonsense about "running" Venezuela could not fool anyone except Trumptards like yourself.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046404]Sen. Chuck Schumer.

THEN: "And the President brags about his Venezuela policy. Give us a break. He hasn't brought an end to the Maduro regime. The Maduro regime is more powerful today and more entrenched today than it was when the President began. " (2/5/20).

NOW: "This is reckless. And the American people are just, this morning, in fear of what's going to happen here. " (1/4/26).

Sen. Dick Durbin.

THEN: "The people of Venezuela deserve better than this. We can't allow this President's short attention span to stop us from delivering on our promise to help the Venezuelan people rebuild their country. Though President Trump may seem ready to throw in the towel, I stand committed to aiding the people of Venezuela. " (6/20/19).

NOW: "I disagree with President Trump's use of USA Military forces without Congressional approval & worry deeply about this Admin's follow through on foreign policy interventions. " (1/3/26).

Sen. Chris Van Hollen.

THEN: "The United States is now going to use its levers and influence to push for a negotiation to have a transition to the truly elected leader. Obviously, we know Maduro and his cronies do not want to go quietly into the night, but the United States needs to work with its partners and allies in the region to ratchet up the pressure." (8/2/24).

NOW: "It is an illegal act of war to replace Maduro. " (1/3/26).

Sen. Chris Murphy.

THEN: "If Trump cared about consistency, he would make the realist case for intervention in Venezuela (getting rid of Maduro is good for the United States) rather than trying to pretend his Administration all of the sudden cares about toppling anti-democratic regimes. " (1/23/19).

NOW: "The invasion of Venezuela has nothing to do with American security. Venezuela is not a security threat to the USA " (1/4/26).

Sen. Tim Kaine.

THEN: "This is a deeply concerning development for Venezuelans and for the entire region, since instability abroad impacts us here at home, too. " (9/2/24).

NOW: "President Trump's unauthorized military attack on Venezuela to arrest Maduro. Is a sickening return to a day when the United States asserted the right to dominate the internal political affairs of all nations in the Western Hemisphere. " (1/3/26).

Sen. Amy Klobuchar.

THEN: "I have of course supported bringing in the new president and delegitimizing the Maduro government. You always leave things on the table. " (5/2/19).

NOW: "I have strongly opposed sending American forces into harm's way in Venezuela without authorization from Congress. We should not put Americans at risk in this way without careful deliberation among the people's elected representatives. Wars for regime change can lead to unintended consequences. "(1/3/26).

Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

THEN: "Maduro is a dictator and a crook who has wrecked his country's economy, dismantled its democratic institutions, and profited while his people suffer. The United States should lead the international community in addressing Venezuela's humanitarian crisis and supporting regional efforts to negotiate a political transition. " (7/30/2019).

NOW: "What does it mean that the USA Will 'run' Venezuela, and what will Trump do next around the world? The American people voted for lower costs, not for Trump's dangerous military adventurism overseas that won't make the American people safer. " (1/3/26).

Rep. Jamie Raskin.

THEN: "The democratic world must stand up for the rule of law in Venezuela and oppose Maduro's assault on the electoral process and free speech. The right-wing attack on democratic institutions anywhere is a threat to freedom everywhere. " (8/2/24).

NOW: "Trump is not only violating our Constitution, but he is shredding the rules-based international order created after World War II, whose essential building block is the political sovereignty and territorial integrity of each nation. " (1/4/26).

Rep. Darren Soto.

THEN: "Honored to speak with at cdvorlando yesterday about Venezuelan TPS, raising the reward for Maduro's capture to $100 M, and bringing democracy back to Venezuela. " (10/6/24).

NOW: "Trump's trading one dictator for another just to get oil? This will do NOTHING to help my constituents' family members who just lost their TPS and still can't return home. " (1/5/26).

Well, at least you are consistent Tooms, consistently full of it but consistent. When you talk about that great economy, are you talking about Minnesota? Or Somalia?[/QUOTE]You respond to my posting fully-substantiated data showing the economy that Trump and his MAGAs claim is "the greatest economy ever after the worst economy ever under Biden" producing typically crap Repub results vs Biden's typical far, far superior Dem results as the reason Trump pulled his latest big, stupid distraction stunt by posting Dems denouncing the Maduro regime that Trump's big, stupid distraction stunt has done nothing to remove or replace as proof of what now?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046154]That's one person. The rest of the regime that did the dirty work is there. However, we are not the world police. Are we going to do to China where Fentanyl is made and shipped out here? Of course not they are weakened like Venezuela.[/QUOTE]That's one of the 95%+ of the 30 Million+ Venezuelan population that are overjoyed at the USA Liberating Venezuela.

You Must live under a rock without WIFI-- You ever been to any latin countries? I live in Bogotá for 15+Years. I Live among the Millions of Great Venezuelan Refugees who Are So Happy Now after the End of the 26+ Years Venezuela Nightmare. I actually paid for a little girl named Rosmari to have heart surgery. For 5+ yrs-I have been helping her and her family who are destitute. I do have a GoFundMe if anyone wants to personally help a bunch of great kids--PM Me-- (Thank You Elvis by the way).

And I have lived in Ecuador, Mexico and visited all over Latin America since 1990. Hablas Espanol?

Yes-- We are not the world's police but we must have dominion over the entire western hemisphere for the good of the world. Hence taking down Maduro which never would have happened without our greatest American President Donald J. Trump.

The rest of the ScumBags Chavistas in Venezuela you say are controlling Venezuela-- Actually no and Shall not last long-- We are controlling the oil now and that is one of the keys. The CIA is on the ground pushing buttons -- Venezuela Shall Be Great Again! It's Different This Time!

China shall calm the fuck down with their Garbage chemicals-- They already are since the beginning of the real war on drugs has begun in 2025-.

The Venezuela Liberation by the USA is the the greatest Geopolitical event since the liberation of the Nazi concentration camps--Prove Me Wrong!

The Cuba Nightmare Shall and Must End Soon.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046167]The Venezuelan attack was illegal, by your MAGA Fuhrer. Isn't everything he does corrupt and illegal, anyways? LOL!

The attack on Venezuela is considered an illegal violation of the USA Constitution, [U]because it lacked congressional authorization[/U], which is required for military action. This is clearly outlined in [I][b]Article I, Section 8,[/b][/I] which only grants Congress the power to declare war, or acts of aggression on another sovereign entity.[/QUOTE]The Military action was Law Enforcement Action like Panama with Noriega-.

So funny how so many TDS DumbAsses hate our greatest American President Donald J. Trump-- Unpresidented vitriol.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046447]It's the same regime you dummy. The disaster of Venezuela isn't going away because Maduro is no longer there. What we have now is different dog same fleas. The infrastructure of Venezuela will years to fix and your Trump will be out of office and fertilizer when that happens.

This nonsense about "running" Venezuela could not fool anyone except Trumptards like yourself.[/QUOTE]Strongly disagree. Maduro is an evil tyrant who raped the people of Venezuela. He's a real life dictator, not a pretend dictator like dems want to believe Trump is. Cuba and Venezuela were absolute shit shows of human atrocity and scoop him up in the middle of the night sends a message that the days doing what ever you want with out being held accountable are over. Even if it does nothing to change Venezeula it is the right thing to do in the name of freedom and Democracy. It is also sends the message, don't fuck with USA or our special ops will end you in your sleep. Countries will think twice before trying to tak advantage of the USA like they have been doing for years now since Obama had USA bend over for the world, especially China.

Before, USA used to shoot Black, but now even Caucasian type mother of 3 children. When I say since long time he is senile, but old orange and his robbers become really dangerous.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046307][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14220893/Germanys-wind-power-higher-bills.html[/URL]

Dumbasses! Germany and UK going broke because of Wind and Solar.[/QUOTE][B]If you've actually read the article,[/B] you'll see that the author of the article, clearly points to constraints of the German (or Britain and the rest of Europe for that matter, their) electrical grid infrastructure capacity, as the major bottleneck, for consumers not benefiting from the additional renewable sources, that lead to "soaring energy bills".

But like any good right-wing publication, they'll naturally frame the problem, as renewables, being the cause.

Nevertheless. What the article also grossly disregards or woefully and neglectfully fails to mention, is that the major impact and cause of "soaring energy bills" in Germany, is also due to the following three (3) critical things:
[LIST] the impact and loss of cheap Russian pipeline gas (from Ukraine vs Russian war) and;[/LIST][LIST] their stupid decision to shut down their perfectly good working nuclear power plants (post Fukushima) and;[/LIST][LIST] they poorly rushed into and poorly negotiated, senseless long-term LNG/GAS contracts with the U.S.[/LIST]
[B]Geopolitics and Europes Natural Gas Supply: Aspects and Consequences from a Gas and Electricity Markets Perspective[/B], July 2025, [URL]https://www.intereconomics.eu/contents/year/2025/number/6/article/geopolitics-and-europe-s-natural-gas-supply.html[/URL].

[B]Bottom line:[/B] Most countries, that are seeing a surge in growth of electricity usage, are experiencing higher electricity bills, due to the upgrading of electricity grids and addition of more input energy sources. All three (3) points above and the cost of upgrading the grid infrastructure are primary reasons for the "soaring energy bills" in Germany.

BTW, I'm still curious, what type of energy generation, does NJ want, supplement their grid? And when do they want it?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046447]It's the same regime you dummy.[/QUOTE]Hey, watch your language! LOL. That is what I mean with how full of it you Dems are. Thirty million people suffering? That is just one person's point of view. The worse of the use ass? Hey, that is serious. Somebody needs to do something about that.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046447]The infrastructure of Venezuela will years to fix and your Trump will be out of office and fertilizer when that happens.The infrastructure of Venezuela will years to fix and your Trump will be out of office and fertilizer when that happens.This nonsense about "running" Venezuela could not fool anyone except Trumptards like yourself.[/QUOTE]I love the shining examples of Democratic etiquette and the use of Trumptard and dummy as examples of being a Democratic PC. So to paraphrase these two sentences. Venezuela is going to have its infrastructure fixed but I am stupid for thinking that is a good thing because Trump will be out of office and will not get credit for it.

And you think that is what I care about? Not the suffering of 30 millions people, but Trump getting credit for bringing Venezuela out of poverty?

Well, I do not think like that. Hell, if a Democrat had a plan to help Venezuela that I thought was a good idea, I would be all for it. I do not think like that, but obviously you do, and all I can say about you is turn off the MSNBC and CNN and actually start talking to people and not just people who agree with you. You need to get a fucking life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046548]Before, USA used to shoot Black, but now even Caucasian type mother of 3 children. When I say since long time he is senile, but old orange and his robbers become really dangerous.[/QUOTE]3 children now without mother. Great MAGA crazy murderers. Wake up Americans versus schizophrene facists. I m happy Tesla is falling, even I don t want BYD killing our planet.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046501]The Military action was Law Enforcement Action like Panama with Noriega-.

So funny how so many TDS DumbAsses hate our greatest American President Donald J. Trump-- Unpresidented vitriol.[/QUOTE]Panama under Noriega had declared war against the USA. The USA already had a significant military presence in Panama and Noriega's regime had attacked and killed USA military personnel.

It was nothing like Trump's big, stupid stunt of distraction from his crap policy and management results in America this time around with Venezuela.

The dude layed the groundwork for, ushered in and exacerbated the Covid-19/ Trump's Pandemic, mass murdering millions of people around the world including at least a million Americans, wiped out millions of jobs, collapsed global supply-chains, triggered the skyrocketing global inflation, business and school closures that followed.

As a further consequence of the historically worst economic and national security decisions of all time, he then left office with fewer jobs in the USA economy than the day he took office, something no president has accomplished since Repub Herbert Hoover. And that was after his one and only economic "stimulus" legislation of his 1st term added Trillions to his deficits while creating fewer jobs with it than without it and his failed tariff and trade war with China driving the USA Agriculture and Manufacturing Industries into Recession so deep he had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat.

He now appears to be trying to surpass his 1st term Worst President in USA History results by doubling and tripling down on the same disastrous economic and national security decisions he made the first time around all over again this second time around.

Except sooner and faster.

Year one of his 2nd term, Trump's disastrous policies and stewardship have already managed to produce only 25-30% of the private-sector jobs that Biden's policies and stewardship produced the year before, while still adding Trillions MORE to his deficits! And without one brick of Trump "Infrastructure Week" from all 5 of his years as president being laid to improve life for anyone anywhere!

And so much more crap results.

LOL. Yet you MAGAs are still hanging on to that TDS excuse for why well-informed, thinking, patriotic Americans would object to that America-hating, Insurrectionists, warmongering, horrific results-producing orange loon. Lolol. Amazing.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046548]Before, USA used to shoot Black, but now even Caucasian type mother of 3 children. When I say since long time he is senile, but old orange and his robbers become really dangerous.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/09/magazine/trump-venezuela-foreign-policy-realism-greenland.html[/URL]

Trump is out there tipping off his stock market investor class Americans about his crap economic numbers that must be much, much worse even than reported since he has fired and threatened to fire BLS and Fed officials for reporting accurate numbers that make him look bad. He tries to rig everything. Everything. Even his crap economic results.

So imagine how bad these full year Trump jobs creation numbers for 2025 vs Biden's 2024 numbers are for real. Lolol.

Trump's Trillions added to his deficits and jacking up the price of groceries god I'm glad he invented that word has still somehow miraculously produced something like 25-30% of the jobs, especially private-sector jobs, in 2025 than Biden's policies created in 2024.

Oh well. We tried.

Behold what that deadbeat scamming failure did with his latest crap economic numbers:

[B]Trump revealed some of Friday's jobs data early in post the prior day[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/09/trump-revealed-jobs-data-early.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump in a social media post Thursday evening indirectly revealed data from Fridays market-moving nonfarm payrolls count, an apparent violation of long-standing federal policy.

Office of Management and Budget policy prohibits executive branch officials from commenting on such releases early and in fact forbids public statements until 30 minutes after the release.
..........
In a Truth Social post around 9 p.m. ET, the president indicated that private sector payrolls had expanded by 654,000 for the full year of 2025, a total that would have included Fridays jobs count for December.
.............
While Trumps post would not allow traders to calculate the exact payrolls figure because of lack of data on revisions, they could have gleaned a rough estimation of the figure and possibly ruled out a December job-loss scenario that would have spooked markets.

Trump once telegraphed somewhat a positive jobs figure in his first term, drawing criticism.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046548]Before, USA used to shoot Black, but now even Caucasian type mother of 3 children. When I say since long time he is senile, but old orange and his robbers become really dangerous.[/QUOTE]Yes and sadly it is not going to stop even if the orange is gone. Its a systemic changed who began after the 9/11. The fear post 9/11 pushed the american toward a blind desire and acceptation of total security and when you want to total security you have the pay the price and the price is your liberty. USA is more and more authocratic since the 2 towerd collapsed and trump is only an symptom of the american March toward an autocratic system. Trump family and his olligarch friends are only harvesting the fruits of it. In the best case scenario it will take decade to come back to somthing more balanced and in the worst it can take century. Now trumpe and pals are working to secure enough poeple in american soil that they are ok as long as they are on the same side. Evey onme else are in danger now but not if your are on trump side. Like putin and xi pin and all other autocratic system had made before them. Mid terms of November are going to be a crucial moment to define if usa of tomorow is ggoing to be a dictature or an olligarchy.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046514]Strongly disagree. Maduro is an evil tyrant who raped the people of Venezuela. He's a real life dictator, not a pretend dictator like dems want to believe Trump is. Cuba and Venezuela were absolute shit shows of human atrocity and scoop him up in the middle of the night sends a message that the days doing what ever you want with out being held accountable are over. Even if it does nothing to change Venezeula it is the right thing to do in the name of freedom and Democracy. It is also sends the message, don't fuck with USA or our special ops will end you in your sleep. Countries will think twice before trying to tak advantage of the USA like they have been doing for years now since Obama had USA bend over for the world, especially China.[/QUOTE]You have a lot a nerve complaining about Maduro when Trump has been sucking up to Putin and Kim Jong Un. Why in gods name would any "serious" leader go to North Korea. They don't bother to have elections there and people starve to death.

Oh sure, Putin is the leader of the "democracy" that is Russia. Another life-long dictator who holds fake elections and murders the opposition I. E Navalny.

China, Russia and North Korea fuck with the USA while Trump is in office. I don't like this tough guy talk Trump and crew including the 129 pound soaking wet Steven Miller.

Freedom and democracy you say from the group that tried to overthrow an election. What happened to not getting America into bogged down wars. Someone needs to wake Trump up we know sleeps occasionally while cameras are rolling. LOL.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3046630]Yes and sadly it is not going to stop even if the orange is gone. Its a systemic changed who began after the 9/11. The fear post 9/11 pushed the american toward a blind desire and acceptation of total security and when you want to total security you have the pay the price and the price is your liberty. USA is more and more authocratic since the 2 towerd collapsed and trump is only an symptom of the american March toward an autocratic system. Trump family and his olligarch friends are only harvesting the fruits of it. In the best case scenario it will take decade to come back to somthing more balanced and in the worst it can take century. Now trumpe and pals are working to secure enough poeple in american soil that they are ok as long as they are on the same side. Evey onme else are in danger now but not if your are on trump side. Like putin and xi pin and all other autocratic system had made before them. Mid terms of November are going to be a crucial moment to define if usa of tomorow is ggoing to be a dictature or an olligarchy.[/QUOTE]Nah that's just pipe dreams. This murder was definitely not necessary, and personally I think the guy is clearly wrong and ICE should admit it was over the top use of force. But the reality is this. What the fuck did you think was going to fucking happen if you open up the fucking border and let 30 million illegal immigrants into the country? You do that, and your losing the next election no matter what. Your basically saying, ok well lose the next election with the open border, but 12 years from now, we lock up elections for good with the illegal immigrant vote. They marry or work their way into citizenship some how. But obviously after they lose the election, it is going to be chaos for awhile, which it is right now with ICE trying to remove illegals and preserve America for the people who came here legally.

This is just one incident in a nation of possibly 360 million people when you count illegals. At some point, some one is going to be shot by a cop in a nation of that size. Especially with th ICE removals taking place. Statistically, there is no inherent problem.

Now add in this lady is the dumbest mother fucker in the country, maybe you could argue she deserved to die for trying to run her car into an ICE officer and drive away. I just don't get how anyone could be so fucking stupid to try that when they have nothing to even hide and where did she plan on driving to, like the cops were going to just let her go. She tried to run into the wrong guy who just didn't give a fuck anymore. A guy who decided the time for talk was over and the time to defend with deadly use of force has arrived. When you run a car into a cop, they legally have the right to use deadly force. This lady is a fucking idiot. And we also know now why this dude really doesn't give a fuck. Some one had already tried to kill him and run him over and he was done playing games. Hopefully people realize, there are a lot of cops out there that have been on the beat for a minute and really don't fucking care about anything anymore and if you threaten their life, they won't hesitate for a second to take yours away from you.

What really needs to happen is immigrants should take this offer of a few thousand to leave the country and people should start obeying the law and not try to run their cars into police officers.

I'm still waiting on World War 3. I want to watch the world burn, why is that too much to ask? Come on already!

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3046640]I'm still waiting on World War 3. I want to watch the world burn, why is that too much to ask? Come on already![/QUOTE]Could not agree more. We're a nasty species.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3046630]Yes and sadly it is not going to stop even if the orange is gone. Its a systemic changed who began after the 9/11. The fear post 9/11 pushed the american toward a blind desire and acceptation of total security and when you want to total security you have the pay the price and the price is your liberty. USA is more and more authocratic since the 2 towerd collapsed and trump is only an symptom of the american March toward an autocratic system. Trump family and his olligarch friends are only harvesting the fruits of it. In the best case scenario it will take decade to come back to somthing more balanced and in the worst it can take century. Now trumpe and pals are working to secure enough poeple in american soil that they are ok as long as they are on the same side. Evey onme else are in danger now but not if your are on trump side. Like putin and xi pin and all other autocratic system had made before them. Mid terms of November are going to be a crucial moment to define if usa of tomorow is ggoing to be a dictature or an olligarchy.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine any serious nation engaging in a meaningful trade deal, peace and security treaty or business relationship with the USA going forward now that they know every 2-4 years 49% of the American electorate is blitheringly stupid and self-destructive enough to put loony Repub MAGAs in control of one or both Houses of Congress or at the helm in the White House.

At which point they will shit on whatever agreements even they themselves had made just 2-3 years earlier and throw America and the rest of our customers or suppliers into economic paralysis along with being threatened with War, Invasion, Occupation, Nuclear Annihilation, especially our historical allies.

And all while a minimum of 5 loony Repub MAGAs in the Supreme Court is all it takes to rule in favor of whatever one-time-ever loony, criminal, America-hating stunt their fellow loony Repub MAGAs in the WH or Congress wants to pull.

Even a decade of complete Dem control of everything won't be enough to put America back on track to sanity. The next election 2 years after that might bring more Repub MAGA looniness, warfare, economic disaster, global Pandemic, whatever than we ever had before. And now every other nation knows it.

It might require the loony Repub MAGA Party to dissolve and go the way if the Whig Party. And even then at least 10-20 years must pass to see where the loony Repub MAGA Party refugees landed before anyone can conduct serious business with America again. Probably more like 30-40 years after that.

How can a huge, globally-successful entity like Amazon possibly consider setting up their first ever big deal brick and mortar enterprise smack in the middle of a "Dem-controlled hellhole of rampant crime, welfare queens, trash and blight"?

I mean, wouldn't Amazon have done its due diligence on where American Working Men and Women have good jobs, good paying jobs, live, earn and invest responsibly, show pride of ownership in the American Dream, achieve and succeed enough to warrant the huge investment?

Surely they would be looking at setting up such a first time big commitment and endeavor in Hootervile Utah, Pixly Kansas or some other serene Repub MAGA-controlled tumbleweed, rattlesnake and outhouse settlement.

No?

[B]Amazon plans first big-box retail store in Chicago suburb.
Jan. 9, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/09/amazon-plans-first-big-box-retail-store-in-chicago-suburb.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Amazon has proposed building a big-box retail store in a Chicago suburb that would be larger than a Walmart Supercenter.

It marks Amazons latest physical retail experiment, after it launched bookstores, a chain of fashion stores, convenience marts and supermarkets, scrapping some concepts along the way.

The 229,000-square-foot store is expected to offer a mix of groceries, general merchandise and household essentials.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3046655]Could not agree more. We're a nasty species.[/QUOTE]So, I guess both of you will be first to run at next war, to give your life for your country to get a medal, same like courageous Ukrainians.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046501]The Military action was Law Enforcement Action like Panama with Noriega-.

So funny how so many TDS DumbAsses hate our greatest American President Donald J. Trump-- Unpresidented vitriol.[/QUOTE]The [NOPARSE]U.S. military 1989 invasion of Panama and Venezuela, with the illegal abductions of Noriega and Maduro, while both are characterized and framed as a law-enforcement operations, both operations did unlawfully violated U.S. and International Laws, as both lacked the credible basis for legal military action, in a either [/NOPARSE]courts of law.

[B]Were the US actions in Venezuela legal under international law? An expert explains,[/B] [I]"... it is hard to see how this can be anything other than a “use of force” within the meaning of article 2(4) of the UN Charter...Nonetheless, the [u]US intervention in Venezuela was as brazen and unlawful[/u] as its military strike on Iran in June last year. As such, it challenges international law."[/I] [URL]https://theconversation.com/were-the-us-actions-in-venezuela-legal-under-international-law-an-expert-explains-272684[/URL]

The ILLEGAL actions against Venezuela, from your MAGA Fuhrer and Hegseth, [B]ONLY SERVE to bolster, strengthen and reinforce other bad state actors,[/B] like Russia, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia and China, to reenact similar bullshit "law enforcement" claims against neighboring sovereign countries like Taiwan. It's looks like a precursor to more war and was IMHO, just plain dumb! [I]...PERIOD[/I]!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046307][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14220893/Germanys-wind-power-higher-bills.html[/URL]

Dumbasses! Germany and UK going broke because of Wind and Solar.[/QUOTE]Take a look at this newer [B]Fortune article, dated January 1, 2026,[/B] (about 1 year after your article) and perhaps explain why author thinks, it's Americans suffering from raising energy bills, while it's more common for Europeans to be experiencing lower energy bills and negative electricity prices, largely due to renewables?

[B]Fortune:[/B] Negative prices for electricity are getting more common in Europe and consumer costs have dipped—while Americans face rising energy bills, January 1, 2026 [URL]https://fortune.com/2026/01/01/negative-prices-electricity-european-union-solar-wind-spain-france-germany-us-energy-bills/[/URL].

Note, there's a 3:21 min. Audio transcript, if you can't / don't want to read the article!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046707]Take a look at this newer Fortune article, dated January 1, 2026, (about 1 year after your article) and perhaps explain why author thinks, it's Americans suffering from raising energy bills[/QUOTE]Man, this is just an example of you just seeing what you want to believe versus the truth. First off, the author leaves off European taxes. Why? Do consumers not pay taxes?

Then he shows the electricity Europeans are charged and puts it in Euros. It is about 0. 3 Euros per kilowatt hour. Most people, yourself included, do not know what that means. 0. 3 Euros is 35 cents. The Europeans are paying 35 cents per kilowatt hour.

And in the USA? "Texans on average are paying 16 cents per kilowatt hour which is 12.3% below the national average. The average for the USA in 2024 was 16.5. In 2020, it was 13 cents. So Europe is going from 35 to 34 cents and the USA is gong up from 16 to 17 cents, and the point is we need to do what Europe is doing. Really?

"By contrast, rising electricity prices in the USA Have become a growing source of voter discontent as utilities race to build more capacity to feed skyrocketing demand from AI data centers. "

Yeah, no shit, who wants to build a data center in Europe given their nose bleed electricity costs?

"The higher bills have fueled an overall affordability crisis that started with the post-pandemic inflation spike" Ah yes, your lib journalist fails to mention electricity went up from 13 to 16 cents per kilowatt hour when Biden was president. Gee, I wonder why he left off Biden's names and failed to put down electricity prices.

Wait, where is Trump and tariffs? It has to be there. Everything bad in the economy has to do with tariffs. A libtard journalist didn't mention Trump and tariffs? How can that be?

Oh wait, I did not read the whole sentence. "The higher bills have fueled an overall affordability crisis that started with the post-pandemic inflation spike and was worsened by President Donald Trump's tariffs. "

Ah yes, all is right with the world now. I have no clue what the fuck tariffs have to do with electricity prices but whatever.

Where the griping come is that data centers are playing less for electricity than consumers and using more and more. The reason is "Data centers often pay less for electricity than consumers due to specialized contracts and subsidies negotiated with utilities, which can include discounted rates and upfront payments for infrastructure upgrades. These arrangements are frequently part of incentive packages offered by local governments to attract large tech companies, and the resulting costs of grid upgrades are often spread across all ratepayers, not just the data centers".

Here is a listing of all the data center and the costs of electricity for those centers. [URL]https://dgtlinfra.com/united-states-data-centers/[/URL].

Prices are as low as 5 cents per kilowatt hour in Dallas and 15 cents in San Jose.

And Texas is going to be among the big winners in the AI boom. Because while you libtards are fighting over what type of electricity to build, we will build it all. [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/12/ai-data-center-flood-texas-on-massive-scale.html[/URL]#text=Everything%20 is%20 bigger%20 in%20 Texas, center%20 developers%20 to%20 the%20 state. Everything is bigger in Texas. That's also true for data center demand in the Lone Star State, where project developers are rushing to cash in on the artificial intelligence boom.

Cheap land and cheap energy are combining to attract a flood of data center developers to the state. The potential demand is so vast that it will be impossible to meet by the end of the decade, energy experts say.

More than 220 gigawatts of big projects have asked to connect to the Texas electric grid by 2030, according to December data from the Electric Reliability Council of Texas. More than 70% of those projects are data centers, according to ERCOT, which manages the Texas power grid.

That's more than twice the Lone Star State's record peak summer demand this year of around 85 gigawatts, and its total available power generation for the season of around 103 gigawatts. Those figures are "crazy big," said Beth Garza, a former ERCOT watchdog.

There is that cheap land line again.

And you and the Dems want Texas and the USA to mimic Europe? You all are out of your damned minds.

Trump and Musk are fakers, using fake photos to bullshit as always, about Venezuela. And so shameful Musk with grok, ready for everything for money, totally unrespectful. USA are now really down in toilets, with such guys.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046631]You have a lot a nerve complaining about Maduro when Trump has been sucking up to Putin and Kim Jong Un. Why in gods name would any "serious" leader go to North Korea. They don't bother to have elections there and people starve to death.

Oh sure, Putin is the leader of the "democracy" that is Russia. Another life-long dictator who holds fake elections and murders the opposition I. E Navalny.

China, Russia and North Korea fuck with the USA while Trump is in office. I don't like this tough guy talk Trump and crew including the 129 pound soaking wet Steven Miller.

Freedom and democracy you say from the group that tried to overthrow an election. What happened to not getting America into bogged down wars. Someone needs to wake Trump up we know sleeps occasionally while cameras are rolling. LOL.[/QUOTE]Kevin, stop deflecting. Removing Maduro was a total and complete win for Trump, America, and most importantly Venezuela. He did the impossible. The world has wanted Maduro out for years and Trump did the planet a favor.

Now if you want to start a totally separate post on China and Russia and how Trump has handled those nations, then go right ahead. It is bad forum etiquette to be posting about China and Russia in this thread.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046707]Take a look at this newer [B]Fortune article, dated January 1, 2026,[/B] (about 1 year after your article) and perhaps explain why author thinks, it's Americans suffering from raising energy bills, while it's more common for Europeans to be experiencing lower energy bills and negative electricity prices, largely due to renewables?

[B]Fortune:[/B] Negative prices for electricity are getting more common in Europe and consumer costs have dippedwhile Americans face rising energy bills, January 1, 2026 [URL]https://fortune.com/2026/01/01/negative-prices-electricity-european-union-solar-wind-spain-france-germany-us-energy-bills/[/URL].

Note, there's a 3:21 min. Audio transcript, if you can't / don't want to read the article![/QUOTE]But what about the polution, land waste, and turning USA into China's pawn over rare earth minerals? We will keep doing these loops. Every one knows you make know sense and you are a snake charming green scam pusher by now.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046751]Kevin, stop deflecting. Removing Maduro was a total and complete win for Trump, America, and most importantly Venezuela. He did the impossible. The world has wanted Maduro out for years and Trump did the planet a favor.

Now if you want to start a totally separate post on China and Russia and how Trump has handled those nations, then go right ahead. It is bad forum etiquette to be posting about China and Russia in this thread.[/QUOTE]A Trumper should be last person to talk about etiquette. You lost me when you made that leap. How do you mean it is a "victory" for Trump. Since when is this about himself personally? He didn't do anyone any favors as what we are left with now in Venezuela is a different dog with the same fleas.

I don't see any of these oil companies rushing to get into Venezuela because it will take years almost 10 and billions of dollars upfront to repair the damaged infrastructure of that nation. It is also quite dangerous and there's no way stabilize Venezuela without sending troops in and that night not work either.

We saw this movie with Iraq. We got rid of Saddam Hussein and Iraq was worse than it was when he was running the place. Did we get to keep the oil? Of course not so I guess you explain why we need go to Greenland and Cuba.

Can you explain how these actions will make any Americans' life better?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046777]A Trumper should be last person to talk about etiquette. You lost me when you made that leap. How do you mean it is a "victory" for Trump. Since when is this about himself personally? He didn't do anyone any favors as what we are left with now in Venezuela is a different dog with the same fleas.

I don't see any of these oil companies rushing to get into Venezuela because it will take years almost 10 and billions of dollars upfront to repair the damaged infrastructure of that nation. It is also quite dangerous and there's no way stabilize Venezuela without sending troops in and that night not work either.

We saw this movie with Iraq. We got rid of Saddam Hussein and Iraq was worse than it was when he was running the place. Did we get to keep the oil? Of course not so I guess you explain why we need go to Greenland and Cuba.[/QUOTE]You know what Kevin, you are right! Let's just let dictator's take over all of South America and end Democracy as we know it. I am sure that is going to work out great for the people of South America. Lets never hold any dictators or leader accountable for their actions. Well just look the other way as they rig election after election and stay in power forever while their people literally starve to death and we see levels of inequality that is only written about in science fiction novels.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046747]Trump and Musk are fakers, using fake photos to bullshit as always, about Venezuela. And so shameful Musk with grok, ready for everything for money, totally unrespectful. USA are now really down in toilets, with such guys.[/QUOTE]Funny, so stupid Trump now asking his citizens to leave Venezuela, when he made them now in danger with his craziness, when nobody want such a shameful for king of our world. Only no brained Americans could re elect him.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046820]You know what Kevin, you are right! Let's just let dictator's take over all of South America and end Democracy as we know it. I am sure that is going to work out great for the people of South America. Lets never hold any dictators or leader accountable for their actions. Well just look the other way as they rig election after election and stay in power forever while their people literally starve to death and we see levels of inequality that is only written about in science fiction novels.[/QUOTE]So you're saying we should be fixing that all over the planet right? Or did you just like helping out the South American countries?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046660]How can a huge, globally-successful entity like Amazon possibly consider setting up their first ever big deal brick and mortar enterprise smack in the middle of a "Dem-controlled hellhole of rampant crime, welfare queens, trash and blight"?

I mean, wouldn't Amazon have done its due diligence on where American Working Men and Women have good jobs, good paying jobs, live, earn and invest responsibly, show pride of ownership in the American Dream, achieve and succeed enough to warrant the huge investment?[/QUOTE]Do you even read what you link?

As part of the plans, Amazon has proposed building a one-story, 229,000-square-foot building in Orland Park, Illinois.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orland_Park[/URL], _Illinois.

City is 80% white, elected a Republican mayor, defied and sued the Illinois governor on Covid mandates, and the median income is $85,000.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046660]Surely they would be looking at setting up such a first time big commitment and endeavor in Hootervile Utah, Pixly Kansas or some other serene Repub MAGA-controlled tumbleweed, rattlesnake and outhouse settlement.[/QUOTE]That sounds like Orland Park and just to refresh your memory Tooms.

[URL]https://time.com/5530386/aoc-amazon-new-york-hq2/[/URL]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Celebrated Amazon Pulling Out of New York––But the Governor Says It Cost the City 25,000 Jobs.

Hey, Tooms, how many of those great Biden jobs were guys working at Minnesota day care centers? Seeing as Spidy is counting bankruptcies as proof Trump is incompetent, do those day care centers closing argue for your point that Trump is incompetent?

The Spirit Airlines bankruptcy was directly on Biden. Maybe you can find me one bankruptcy Trump is responsible for.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3046704]The U.S. military 1989 invasion of Panama and Venezuela, with the illegal abductions of Noriega and Maduro, while both are characterized and framed as a law-enforcement operations, both operations did unlawfully violated U.S. and International Laws, as both lacked the credible basis for legal military action, in a either courts of law.[/QUOTE]Obama killing an American citizen without a trial? Saying we are good at killing people? Clinton lying under oath? Biden pardoning Hunter Biden after saying he would not? Biden serving as president when he clearly was incapacitated? The robot pardon signatures? Those are all good with you Dems. Capturing Maduro? It is completely illegal and going to lead to problems elsewhere!

Yeah, the world leaders are going to gripe in public about Maduro and state sovereignty in public. Behind closed doors, they are glad that fucker Maduro is gone. Chavez / Maduro stole from everyone!

That you Dems are all up in arms about legality kills me. The only reason that you are griping is because Trump did something that could end up being great, and you hate it. Your TDS is so extreme that you care more about Trump potentially looking good than 30 million people having better lives. That is pretty fucked up.

Yep, here we go again. And it was as predictable as night following day for anyone with at least two brain cells to rub together and enough cognitive capacity to remember or simply research as far back as, oh, 2024 vs 2020,2017 vs 2008,2001 vs 1992 and so on and so on and so on for the past 100 years.

Otherwise known by Trump and his MAGA Cult as "TDS / Trump Derangement Syndrome. " Lolol.

Gee, who could have predicted such a thing? Everyone who voted for Kamala Harris.

[B]We're in a 'hiring recession,' economist says how job seekers can stand out[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/10/hiring-recession.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Its fair to say that [b]2025 was a hiring recession in the United States,[/b] Heather Long, chief economist at Navy Federal Credit Union, wrote in a note Friday. That recession affects both blue- and white-collar workers, she wrote.

U.S. employers added 584,000 jobs last year, according to a Bureau of Labor Statistics report issued Friday. That marks [b]the worst year for total job gains outside of a recession since 2003[/b], according to Long. There has been little job creation since April, meaning most gains took place early in the year, she wrote.
..........
Long-term unemployment has also climbed. In December, 26% of all unemployed workers had been out of work for at least six months, [b]the highest share since February 2022[/b], according to the BLS.

That suggests unemployment is increasingly becoming a permanent state rather than a temporary transition, Bachaud said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046821]Funny, so stupid Trump now asking his citizens to leave Venezuela, when he made them now in danger with his craziness, when nobody want such a shameful for king of our world. Only no brained Americans could re elect him.[/QUOTE]You need some new Bullshi- You keep blathering on with the same Dumbass shit.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046747]Trump and Musk are fakers, using fake photos to bullshit as always, about Venezuela. And so shameful Musk with grok, ready for everything for money, totally unrespectful. USA are now really down in toilets, with such guys.[/QUOTE]Why don't you post the fake photos? -- You American hating dickheads are hilarious -- Cry harder.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3046821]Funny, so stupid Trump now asking his citizens to leave Venezuela, when he made them now in danger with his craziness, when nobody want such a shameful for king of our world. Only no brained Americans could re elect him.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/world/americas/trump-latin-america-politics.html?campaign_id=301&emc=edit_ypgu_20260111&instance_id=169127&nl=your-places:-global-update[/URL]®i_id=233280416&segment_id=213503&user_id=273 f0 e7 f0 c7 f50 df8 d381 facde216589.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/border/2026/01/10/spokesman-for-mexicos-ruling-party-claims-cartels-are-one-of-the-nations-largest-employers/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/live/V8zTRvbtyOg[/URL]

[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3046888]So you're saying we should be fixing that all over the planet right? Or did you just like helping out the South American countries?[/QUOTE]What the fuck does empathy have to do with removing evil dictators who rape and pillage whole nations? If the USA had the power and support, yes we should remove all evil tyrants around the globe. How is this even a real question? Wait, you actually like Maduro? You realize the only people who support him are the ones he pays off. TDS is strong with this one.

Just curious, as a comparison, did Obama get this heat when he took out Bin Laden because I sure as hell don't remember it?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3046921][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/world/americas/trump-latin-america-politics.html?campaign_id=301&emc=edit_ypgu_20260111&instance_id=169127&nl=your-places:-global-update[/URL]i_id=233280416&segment_id=213503&user_id=273 f0 e7 f0 c7 f50 df8 d381 facde216589.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/border/2026/01/10/spokesman-for-mexicos-ruling-party-claims-cartels-are-one-of-the-nations-largest-employers/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/live/V8zTRvbtyOg[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/world/americas/trump-latin-america-politics.html[/URL]

So when are they going to find Trump visited Epstein Island? Still waiting here. Love all the hoaxes while Trump does not but produce results.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046897]Obama killing an American citizen without a trial? Saying we are good at killing people? Clinton lying under oath? Biden pardoning Hunter Biden after saying he would not? Biden serving as president when he clearly was incapacitated? The robot pardon signatures? Those are all good with you Dems. Capturing Maduro? It is completely illegal and going to lead to problems elsewhere!

Yeah, the world leaders are going to gripe in public about Maduro and state sovereignty in public. Behind closed doors, they are glad that fucker Maduro is gone. Chavez / Maduro stole from everyone!

That you Dems are all up in arms about legality kills me. The only reason that you are griping is because Trump did something that could end up being great, and you hate it. Your TDS is so extreme that you care more about Trump potentially looking good than 30 million people having better lives. That is pretty fucked up.[/QUOTE]At least Biden was sleeping while cameras are rolling. Who is "running" the country while he sleeping during daylight hours? He needs hospice care. Let's see if we can't procure care for those "cankles" and some of Melania's hand cream for Dumold's use. LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046929]So when are they going to find Trump visited Epstein Island? Still waiting here. Love all the hoaxes while Trump does not but produce results.[/QUOTE]Which results? War in Minneapolis versus citizens? Trying to rob Ukraine, Venezuela and now Cuba. Bad, he is not able to create as many jobs as previous. Not real MAGA but more bullshits every day. So boring to hear how he is so stupid. USA look so low level people under his image, Vance and Musk.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3046931]At least Biden was sleeping while cameras are rolling. Who is "running" the country while he sleeping during daylight hours? He needs hospice care. Let's see if we can't procure care for those "cankles" and some of Melania's hand cream for Dumold's use. LOL.[/QUOTE]Why LOL? If Trump is incompetent, why did you dumb asses try to put him in jail? There is a lot that is fair game to criticize Trump and his policies over about but him being mentally incompetent like Biden is not one. Your TDS is so out of control that you need to be ignored.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3046899]Yep, here we go again. And it was as predictable as night following day for anyone with at least two brain cells to rub together and enough cognitive capacity to remember or simply research as far back as, oh, 2024 vs 2020,2017 vs 2008,2001 vs 1992 and so on and so on and so on for the past 100 years.

Otherwise known by Trump and his MAGA Cult as "TDS / Trump Derangement Syndrome. " Lolol.

Gee, who could have predicted such a thing? Everyone who voted for Kamala Harris.

[B]We're in a 'hiring recession,' economist says how job seekers can stand out[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/10/hiring-recession.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]How many Democratic jobs were Minnesota day care workers? How many Democratic jobs were on the California high speed rail where not even one mile of track has been built? I talked to a friend in Atlanta. Atlanta had been killing it taking jobs from Hollyweird. Thing is the Teamsters Union has insisted that truckers get paid while their trucks were idled. The movie studios are so sick of it they are moving production abroad and away from Atlanta and those bullshit policies, and my friend has suffered because of that.

Adam Carolla put up a garage, and it pissed him off to see inspectors sitting in their cars while he was paying them. He could not believe how building a garage was so fucking hard and costly in California. He said that he is going to his kid's graduation in a you-haul because as so as his kid graduates he is out of California. And now his house has burnt down. Where were the fucking safety experts then?

It took Bill Maher two years to put up solar panels. Solar panels! How many Democratic jobs are these bullshit "safety" inspectors and "experts"? OMG.

And with real work, I got a buddy running a biz in New York. He needs help but he cannot compete with people on unemployment insurance, but New York has plenty of money for inspectors, and a friend of his is a fireman. He hit 50 and is getting $200,000 a year in retirement pay. That is $6 million if he dies at age 80.

And then we have all the immigrants that are being purged. Yeah, why would we expect job growth if they are tossed? Of course, job growth is going to slow then.

Time after time, all the jobs you Dems brag about is bullshit work. The teamsters job, the safety inspector's job, the Minnesota day care workers, the professors in colleges who teach about white supremacy? They are not doing any real work. If the unemployment rate goes up because they are all fired, that would be an economic boom for the nation.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3046926][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/world/americas/trump-latin-america-politics.html[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. That ranks up there with Spidy's cheap European energy article. God, that is a load of horseshit. The reality is that Maduro's shit politics has loaded Venezuela's neighbors to the gills with costly and often destructive Venezuelan refugees. Like the people Woodman is helping, a lot of the Vennies, more than the majority, are good folks, but there are a lot of thugs among those Vennies too.

Thing is if I put on my conspiracy hat and wanted to rig an election, I would use the Vennies. They are poor, desperate, and in too many cases, immoral. I think there is 2 million Vennies in Colombia. Colombian president Petro owns those people and can deport them at any time. Thing is Petro could give the Vennies passports. If you have a Colombian passport, you can go to Mexico visa free and then storm the border. You are not going to catch all the Vennies if they come it any once.

And we know these Democrats are promoting election fraud with immigrants. Have you noticed not one Dem here has even broached what is going on in Minnesota? I have needled the shit out of them, and they won't talk about it. Instead of being outraged at the fraud, the Democratic lunes are hassling law enforcement / ICE that is trying to clean it up.

Thing about Floyd and Garner is that they were involved in petty crime. Garner sold loose cigarettes to avoid the NY cigarette tax. Floyd was passing a fake $20 bill at a convenience store. Maybe he knew it was fake, but I died of embarrassment one time when I handed a store a fake $10 bill. I did not know the bill was fake so I am sympathetic that even a career criminal like Floyd may not have known either. And the cops are putting those guys in choke holds or putting their knees on necks for THAT? No, no, no. I don't want to hear that Fentanyl Floyd crap. The police force was excessive. Period.

In the recent shooting, this woman was egged on by her lesbian wife to protest ICE. She was there to harass ICE and parked her vehicle the middle of the road. She turned towards an ICE agent and the guy who was afraid for his life shot her. If you are living your life, and the cops fuck with you, you have my sympathy. If you are there to fuck with the cops who are trying to capture thieves and people trying to rig elections, you get no sympathy from me. Hell, I hope more of you supporting cheaters and fraudsters get shot. It saves us the expense of a trial.

If Tampon Timmy was innocent, he would not be stepping down. If the Dems were real Americans, they would be outraged by the taxpayer fraud and election fraud and not outraged by ICE or by Trump enforcing the law. Their silence about Minnesota literally speaks more about election fraud than anything else.

And BTW, the Venezuelan oil that Trump and the USA majors are going to start pumping out after a few years is going to go to China after our refineries have their crack at it. Our refineries are the only ones that can handle Venezuelan sour crude in volume.

There was a book about a British guy in China, and this Chinese manager tried to steal his business, and the Brit hung in there. For 3 years, the Chinaman pulled every stunt he could to steal the guy's business until finally he gave up. Once he realized that he could not pull off that stunt, they worked out a fair deal in less than an hour.

The point is that the Chinese would rather buy from fair minded Americans than the Russians or Iranians any day despite the rhetoric. When you are in business, you want stable and dealing with the Russians who are at war and their supply is not dependable or the crazy Mullahs is anything but stable.

Back in 1995, I took a cruise to see the part of the world destined for growth. I went to Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, and Hong Kong. My takeaway was if this was the up and coming part of the world, I wanted no part of it. It was so crowded, so hectic, and so polluted. The only country I was interested in returning to was Singapore.

The best part of the cruise was an old vet, a Brit in the textiles game who spent decades in India and China. Man, he had some great stories. Anyway, we go from wealthy Singapore to Malaysia which is poorer but okay to Indonesia which is at third world as it gets.

He asked me if I noticed that as we went South the countries that were richer in resources. I said I did, but he also pointed out they were poorer in general. I noticed that too. He then made one other point about the race of the people. He said the more Chinese you have, the more wealth you do, and this is when China was shit economically, and I thought to myself he was right. Singapore was loaded with Chinese whereas Indonesia had very few.

China is always going to be about the buck then. That is what they care about. It is in their genes. If they can get a reliable supplier of fairly priced oil, they will be thrilled.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046753]But what about the polution, land waste, and turning USA into China's pawn over rare earth minerals? We will keep doing these loops. Every one knows you make know sense and you are a snake charming green scam pusher by now.[/QUOTE][B]China Launches 1GW Offshore Solar Giant While America Watches From Shore,[/B] January 1, 2026 [URL]https://sustainablepowernews.com/china-launches-offshore-solar-giant/[/URL]

New Clean Energy / Environmental Impact:
[LIST] 1GW offshore solar farm combines innovative marine technology with clean energy production, [b]powering 2.6 million homes[/b][/LIST][LIST] Its avoiding 1.34 million tons of CO2 emissions each year. That's equivalent to [b]saving over 500,000 tonnes of coal. [/b][/LIST][LIST] Farming under these panels of fish, seaweed, who knows what else, produces a dual-use marine space, [b]one area, two revenue streams.[/b][/LIST]
[NOPARSE]Hmmm....I wonder if NJ "rubbed their rocks" hard enough together, if they could produce the same amount of clean energy to power 2.6 million [/NOPARSE]homes?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046738]And in the USA? "Texans on average are paying 16 cents per kilowatt hour which is 12.3% below the national average. The average for the USA in 2024 was 16.5. In 2020, it was 13 cents. So Europe is going from 35 to 34 cents and the USA is gong up from 16 to 17 cents, and the point is we need to do what Europe is doing. Really?[/QUOTE]Texas has nothing on Virginia (the data capital center of the world), when it come to data centers. [URL]https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2025/08/06/electricity-costs-bills-data-centers-ai-virginia[/URL] Whom, BTW, saw Dems sweep and win 13 state seats, for a majority in the house, in the 2025 Elections "Big Blue Wave", in Virginia, based primarily on two election issues; the rise in electricity prices and affordability. Let's hope Texas suffers the same fate, with their data center ambitions!

Yes, we know Texas, has some of the lowest electricity in the country, but tell that to Virginians, facing significant increases in electricity costs due to data centers, with estimates suggesting that data centers accounted for 63% of electricity price increases, for the coming year. [B]Virginia Regulators Approve New Dominion Rates, Assign More Costs to Data Centers,[/B] January 7, 2026, [URL]https://insideclimatenews.org/news/07012026/virginia-regulators-approve-new-dominion-rates/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3046738]"By contrast, rising electricity prices in the USA Have become a growing source of voter discontent as utilities race to build more capacity to feed skyrocketing demand from AI data centers. "

Yeah, no shit, who wants to build a data center in Europe given their nose bleed electricity costs? ...

And you and the Dems want Texas and the USA to mimic Europe? You all are out of your damned minds. [/QUOTE]Right, cause idiots like Bill Gates, decide to invest $10 billion dollars in the largest data center in the world, located in Europe's Portugal, SINES Start Campus, 1 GW data center, for no good reason, right? [URL]https://sustainabilitymag.com/articles/about-sin01-start-campus-new-ai-and-hpc-ready-data-centre[/URL] AND [URL]https://www.startcampus.pt/[/URL].

Funny, you once said Europe couldn't compete in the AI and data center arena. How wrong you were, thinking such nonsense. So much for MAGA think!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3046929]So when are they going to find Trump visited Epstein Island? Still waiting here. Love all the hoaxes while Trump does not but produce results.[/QUOTE]Still watching FOXY Muse are we? Good luck with that!

BTW, is NJ, still looking at "rubbing rocks" together to generate gigawatts of energy?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047022]How many Democratic jobs were Minnesota day care workers? How many Democratic jobs were on the California high speed rail where not even one mile of track has been built? I talked to a friend in Atlanta. Atlanta had been killing it taking jobs from Hollyweird. Thing is the Teamsters Union has insisted that truckers get paid while their trucks were idled. The movie studios are so sick of it they are moving production abroad and away from Atlanta and those bullshit policies, and my friend has suffered because of that.

Adam Carolla put up a garage, and it pissed him off to see inspectors sitting in their cars while he was paying them. He could not believe how building a garage was so fucking hard and costly in California. He said that he is going to his kid's graduation in a you-haul because as so as his kid graduates he is out of California. And now his house has burnt down. Where were the fucking safety experts then?

It took Bill Maher two years to put up solar panels. Solar panels! How many Democratic jobs are these bullshit "safety" inspectors and "experts"? OMG..[/QUOTE]ADP and the BLS have always been well aware of and note the difference between private-sector jobs created and government jobs created. In fact, private-sector jobs is the only thing ADP tracks.

In both cases, their reports are that Trump's 2025 policies created only 25-30% of the jobs created by Biden's policies in 2024.

Don't you even read the links I post that you think I don't read?

That link states the big drop off in 2025 jobs created due to Trump's failed policies started in April of that year. That was when his "Liberation From Your Job Day" of across-the-board tariffs was established.

The Minnesota scandal has been prosecuted and perps have been convicted and jailed for it since 2022. Nothing new occurred regarding any of it last year or this year except MAGAs digging it up as potential distraction from their lord and savior's disastrous 2nd term as so-called president.

Adam Carolla is such a Winger idiot about politics and the economy he repeatedly complains about how impossible it was for him to find a job at the worst time to find a job in his lifetime because "there were NO jobs available and I tried everything" and then cites that year as 1983. But he is too stupid to know 1983 was Repub Ronald Reagan's THIRD year as so-called president and his economic philosophy, tax and economic policies were modeled after those of The Great Depression architects Repubs Coolidge and Hoover and have continued to be the template followed by almost every Repub since, including Worst Jobs Creation President Since Herbert Hoover, Donald Trump.

And Bill Maher is such a Lying MAGA Talking Points Liar now he continues to repeat some total bullshit about Dems thinking a man can get pregnant, want to conduct sex change operations on children and tried to defund the police when he has never in his life met a Dem or Dem policy leader who believes or ever tried to legislate such a thing. And he lives happily in Hollywood / Southern Califirnia with zero plan to ever move away from that area and "those people" to live among MAGALoons the same as Adam Carolla.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3046903]Why don't you post the fake photos? -- You American hating dickheads are hilarious -- Cry harder.[/QUOTE]Yes, both used fake photos about Venezuela. Musk fake from AI and the old orange used a photo which was not about Venezuela. Except no brained who re elected him after he fucked constitution and Capitol, we can't trust these 2 who try to fuck our world. Can only wish it won t last for too long.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047050][B]China Launches 1GW Offshore Solar Giant While America Watches From Shore,[/B] January 1, 2026 [URL]https://sustainablepowernews.com/china-launches-offshore-solar-giant/[/URL]

New Clean Energy / Environmental Impact:
[LIST] 1GW offshore solar farm combines innovative marine technology with clean energy production, [b]powering 2.6 million homes[/b][/LIST][LIST] Its avoiding 1.34 million tons of CO2 emissions each year. That's equivalent to [b]saving over 500,000 tonnes of coal. [/b][/LIST][LIST] Farming under these panels of fish, seaweed, who knows what else, produces a dual-use marine space, [b]one area, two revenue streams.[/b][/LIST]
[NOPARSE]Hmmm....I wonder if NJ "rubbed their rocks" hard enough together, if they could produce the same amount of clean energy to power 2.6 million [/NOPARSE]homes?[/QUOTE]How much gas was used to mine for the batteries and rare earth metals which will back up this system that is destroying ocean environment? How much energy is lost on misty days? In ten years when the panels need to be replaced, that is literally 5 square miles of plastic panels wasted and polluting the environment. How much did the batteries cost?

5 square miles of pristine ocean to generate electricity than can't even produce electricity at night or in bad weather. Yea that makes a ton sense.

Keep up the scam though.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047018]Why LOL? If Trump is incompetent, why did you dumb asses try to put him in jail? There is a lot that is fair game to criticize Trump and his policies over about but him being mentally incompetent like Biden is not one. Your TDS is so out of control that you need to be ignored.[/QUOTE]I was wrong to have the nerve to criticize Trump. I remember as small child learning about ALDS -Abraham Lincoln Derangement Syndrome. Now that Trump has declared himself the acting president of Venezuela he will move there and give us Americans a break from his nonsense that is truly deserved.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047078]The Minnesota scandal has been prosecuted and perps have been convicted and jailed for it since 2022. Nothing new occurred regarding any of it last year or this year except MAGAs digging it up as potential distraction from their lord and savior's disastrous 2nd term as so-called president.[/QUOTE]Sometimes, a response is so dumb it needs to sit by itself. Uh, Tooms, why is Tampon Timmy sitting down? Why did CBS news say they were going to cover the news differently?

Those are rhetorical questions. I have zero interest in your response.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047032]LOL. That ranks up there with Spidy's cheap European energy article. God, that is a load of horseshit. The reality is that Maduro's shit politics has loaded Venezuela's neighbors to the gills with costly and often destructive Venezuelan refugees. Like the people Woodman is helping, a lot of the Vennies, more than the majority, are good folks, but there are a lot of thugs among those Vennies too.

Thing is if I put on my conspiracy hat and wanted to rig an election, I would use the Vennies. They are poor, desperate, and in too many cases, immoral. I think there is 2 million Vennies in Colombia. Colombian president Petro owns those people and can deport them at any time. Thing is Petro could give the Vennies passports. If you have a Colombian passport, you can go to Mexico visa free and then storm the border. You are not going to catch all the Vennies if they come it any once..[/QUOTE]I've been reading 31 billion was stolen in 1 year, 26 billion by foreign gangs, the woman in charge was Julie Su yes that Julie Su just hired my moron mamdani.

[URL]https://www.kjct8.com/2021/01/26/california-criminal-rings-loot-billions-in-jobless-funds/[/URL]

[URL]https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/1/12/which-countries-host-the-largest-venezuelan-populations?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID[/URL]#amp_tf=From%20%251%24's&aoh=17682608914788&csi=0&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.google.com[/URL]&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 F[URL]www.aljazeera.com[/URL]%2 Fnews%2 F2026%2 F1%2 F12%2 Fwhich-countries-host-the-largest-venezuelan-populations.

[URL]https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/visualized-ocean-plastic-waste-pollution-by-country/[/URL]

Asia is one huge toilet, massive rats, roaches and bed bugs (why those greedy bastards on Wall St love it so).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzX2g0V4os[/URL]

I was swimming on a beach in Bali and wound up in a Bronze Age like ER.

I told them I had been swimming and they said OHHH it rained the other day.

I said ok? They said when it rains ALL sewage goes into the ocean including the beaches.

I had to wait to get treated in the USA for a horrible ear infection.

You mention Chinese merchants yes the diaspora is very aggressive about making / stealing money and they are strongly disliked everywhere they go.

Kinda like Jews LOL.

I've seen much of Asia and much of Latin America.

Latin America beats Asia on every single metric if you compare the two, except one.

Crime, that said I've spent a lot of time in both, and I've never had an issue in either so to me its moot (at least so far).

If you stay away from drugs and know how to handle yourself, trouble seems to look for easier targets.

And I have seen many / most of the worst areas of Latin America.

Its cool to be walking down the street in Bogota or Lima and a local is wearing a USA flag shirt or riding a bike with an actual American flag.

You will never see that in Asia (except the PI they speak English are Catholic and love Uncle Sam.

I absolutely love Latin America.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047060]Texas has nothing on Virginia (the data capital center of the world), when it come to data centers. Whom, BTW, saw Dems sweep and win 13 state seats, for a majority in the house, in the 2025 Elections "Big Blue Wave", in Virginia, based primarily on two election issues; the rise in electricity prices and affordability. Let's hope Texas suffers the same fate, with their data center ambitions!

Yes, we know Texas, has some of the lowest electricity in the country, but tell that to Virginians, facing significant increases in electricity costs due to data centers, with estimates suggesting that data centers accounted for 63% of electricity price increases, for the coming year.[/QUOTE]So is having data centers good or bad? Do you want Texas to have higher energy costs? Or Virginia to have them? What similar fate do you want to Texas to suffer? Higher energy costs? More data centers? Turning blue? Given your knack for taking both sides of an issue, the answer to all these questions must be yes and no. If you are going to say I am wrong, maybe you should make sure what your position is.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047060]Right, cause idiots like Bill Gates, decide to invest $10 billion dollars in the largest data center in the world, located in Europe's Portugal, SINES Start Campus, 1 GW data center, for no good reason, right?[/QUOTE]And now Bill Gates, who wrote a book that climate change was bad and that hypocritically said climate change was nothing, is a genius. I thought Gates was an evil, stupid, self serving billionaire in your eyes. So, is Gates bad or good? We can put down yes and no to that question too.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047060]Funny, you once said Europe couldn't compete in the AI and data center arena. How wrong you were, thinking such nonsense. So much for MAGA think![/QUOTE]Yeesh. I am so much smarter than you Elvis because of how I vote. Any moron can vote for a Democrat, you fool. Europe cannot compete with China when it comes to the cost of producing cars, yet Europe still produces cars. How is that possible? You think that you are so smart when you say the dumbest things.

This was from the NYT and of course it had the usual Trump is dumb comments strewn in, but there was some good information: Sprawling solar farms, windmills and hydroelectric dams are the best energy options for the planet, and usually the cheapest. Their economic upside has made them, collectively, the fastest-growing power source for data centers worldwide.

But renewables often can't shoulder the load alone, despite being a major part of the A. I. Power plan. That's because servers hum and whir around the clock — not just when the sun is up or the wind is blowing. They demand a constant, stable flow of electricity. If power falters, even for a few seconds, companies lose thousands of dollars, sometimes more.

Companies can pair solar and wind farms with massive batteries that store power and then release it in a steady stream. But storing energy that way is relatively pricey and may still fall short of providing the nonstop energy that data centers need. "Batteries are a great way to shift daytime electricity to evening electricity — but not a great way to shift July electricity to January electricity.

So even the greenest facilities rely on fossil fuels or the local grid for backup.

The biggest data center campuses will consume multiple gigawatts of power. To continuously produce just a single gigawatt, a renewable-energy plant would need around 12.5 million solar panels — enough to cover nearly 5,000 football fields. Wind turbines would need even more room. Many data centers near cities and towns don't have that kind of space.

And this is what Ram was smacking you around about. Oh, solar is cheaper but let's leave out land costs. Solar is cheaper but let's leave out battery costs. Solar is cheaper but let's leave out the costs of fossil fuel backup. Solar is cheaper but only when the sun is shining and the sunlight is bright. Solar is cheaper but if you have a grid overly dependent on solar and wind as Spain and Portugal do, blackouts will be more frequent and blackouts cost data centers millions of dollars.

So solar is not always cheaper nor better. And if you look at where there is plenty of sun, wind, and cheap land, the most cost effective place to be is West Texas. Texas is not Virginia. Our potential for alternative energy generation is practically unlimited.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047106]Sometimes, a response is so dumb it needs to sit by itself. Uh, Tooms, why is Tampon Timmy sitting down? Why did CBS news say they were going to cover the news differently?

Those are rhetorical questions. I have zero interest in your response.[/QUOTE]Trump's 2nd term typically crap Repub Jobs creation record so far, especially compared to the nearest Dem president's results, was not caused my a Minnesota scandal that was initially investigated and prosecuted by Joe Biden's DOJ back in 2022.

And neither was Trump's 1st term typically crap Repub Jobs creation results.

Or GW Bush's.

Or GHW Bush's.

Or Reagan's.

Or Nixon / Ford's.

Or Eisenhower's.

Or Hoover's.

Etc.

But keep trying. Maybe you will eventually come up with some lame excuse so dumb, numskull MAGAs Adam Carolla and Bill Maher will repeat it over and over again on their shows for you.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3047109]I've been reading 31 billion was stolen in 1 year, 26 billion by foreign gangs, the woman in charge was Julie Su yes that Julie Su just hired my moron mamdani.

https://www.kjct8.com/2021/01/26/california-criminal-rings-loot-billions-in-jobless-funds/[/QUOTE]In 2020, when the Dems said that was the fairest election in history, I was like, are you fucking kidding me? But the Republicans tried to change things after the fact which was not going to happen. I was like Republicans you have to stop these guys before the election and they did not do enough because you cannot expect judges to over turn things, and they have learned and are getting judges involved before the full vote is cast. We all know the immigrants are being bribed with our tax dollars to vote Dem. The modern Dem has no morals. They think Trump is so evil that bribing immigrants to vote their way is okay.

I did not know we had close to a million Vennies here. That is enough to flip any election. I actually think that is the real reason Trump took Maduro out not gold not oil but to deport any of the Vennies taking money to vote Dem. I expect Trump to build a Guantanamo like structure there, and to deport any immigrant who illegally votes in an election, and that is fine with me. Illegals voting in an election is not cute. It is as big a threat to our Democracy as Hitler was. They are stealing the USA blind.

[URL]https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/1/12/which-countries-host-the-largest-venezuelan-populations?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID[/URL]#amp_tf=From%20%251%24's&aoh=17682608914788&csi=0&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.google.com[/URL]&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.aljazeera.com[/URL]%2 Fnews%2 F2026%2 F1%2 F12%2 Fwhich-countries-host-the-largest-venezuelan-populations.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3047109]I was swimming on a beach in Bali and wound up in a Bronze Age like ER.

I told them I had been swimming and they said OHHH it rained the other day.

I said ok? They said when it rains ALL sewage goes into the ocean including the beaches.

I had to wait to get treated in the USA for a horrible ear infection.

You mention Chinese merchants yes the diaspora is very aggressive about making / stealing money and they are strongly disliked everywhere they go.

Kinda like Jews LOL.

I've seen much of Asia and much of Latin America.

Latin America beats Asia on every single metric if you compare the two, except one.

Crime, that said I've spent a lot of time in both, and I've never had an issue in either so to me its moot (at least so far).

If you stay away from drugs and know how to handle yourself, trouble seems to look for easier targets.

And I have seen many / most of the worst areas of Latin America.

Its cool to be walking down the street in Bogota or Lima and a local is wearing a USA flag shirt or riding a bike with an actual American flag.

You will never see that in Asia (except the PI they speak English are Catholic and love Uncle Sam.

I absolutely love Latin America.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and Bali Indonesia is one of the few places in Asia where you have enough space to actually breathe. It is beautiful but not maintained well, and the people there love to rip off tourists.

The big difference between nation building in Venezuela versus Afghanistan or Iraq is that it is a Christian nation. Culturally, our values are the same. Individually, I like Muslims, but most of their governments are fucked up. My father was raised Muslim, and he hated the religious people. He said more people died in the name of religion than anything else, and I think he was right.

Christianity was violent too, but that was when only the priests had access to the Bible. Once everyone did and could read the Bible and Jesus saying, "Love God and Love your neighbor", IMO that changed everything. Anybody who thinks the Christian world was violent is not looking at other cultures.

Given how young Latin America is and was, I was much more interested in the growth of their economies than Asian ones. Maybe they were not going to soar as much, but I enjoyed visiting them. Asia was far, a lot of it is dirty, and crowded. But Latin America is spread out, nice weather. People are / were friendly. The women moving their hips like they did blew me away. And unlike going to Europe, there is no jet lag, and things were like a third the price of Europe.

It amazes me why Latin America so often is not on the list of places people are interested in traveling to, and I think the reason is the fear of crime. Thing is the crime varies so much. In Rio, people brag about not getting mugged, but in nearby Buenos Aires, you do not see much of that. And when you start talking Chile and Uruguay, you are probably safer there than most of the USA.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047188]In 2020, when the Dems said that was the fairest election in history, I was like, are you fucking kidding me? But the Republicans tried to change things after the fact which was not going to happen. I was like Republicans you have to stop these guys before the election and they did not do enough because you cannot expect judges to over turn things, and they have learned and are getting judges involved before the full vote is cast. We all know the immigrants are being bribed with our tax dollars to vote Dem. The modern Dem has no morals. They think Trump is so evil that bribing immigrants to vote their way is okay.

I did not know we had close to a million Vennies here. That is enough to flip any election. I actually think that is the real reason Trump took Maduro out not gold not oil but to deport any of the Vennies taking money to vote Dem. I expect Trump to build a Guantanamo like structure there, and to deport any immigrant who illegally votes in an election, and that is fine with me. Illegals voting in an election is not cute. It is as big a threat to our Democracy as Hitler was. They are stealing the USA blind.

[URL]https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/1/12/which-countries-host-the-largest-venezuelan-populations?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID[/URL]#amp_tf=From%20%251%24's&aoh=17682608914788&csi=0&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.google.com[/URL]&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.aljazeera.com[/URL]%2 Fnews%2 F2026%2 F1%2 F12%2 Fwhich-countries-host-the-largest-venezuelan-populations.

Yeah, and Bali Indonesia is one of the few places in Asia where you have enough space to actually breathe. It is beautiful but not maintained well, and the people there love to rip off tourists.

The big difference between nation building in Venezuela versus Afghanistan or Iraq is that it is a Christian nation. Culturally, our values are the same. Individually, I like Muslims, but most of their governments are fucked up. My father was raised Muslim, and he hated the religious people. He said more people died in the name of religion than anything else, and I think he was right.

Christianity was violent too, but that was when only the priests had access to the Bible. Once everyone did and could read the Bible and Jesus saying, "Love God and Love your neighbor", IMO that changed everything. Anybody who thinks the Christian world was violent is not looking at other cultures.

Given how young Latin America is and was, I was much more interested in the growth of their economies than Asian ones. Maybe they were not going to soar as much, but I enjoyed visiting them. Asia was far, a lot of it is dirty, and crowded. But Latin America is spread out, nice weather. People are / were friendly. The women moving their hips like they did blew me away. And unlike going to Europe, there is no jet lag, and things were like a third the price of Europe.

It amazes me why Latin America so often is not on the list of places people are interested in traveling to, and I think the reason is the fear of crime. Thing is the crime varies so much. In Rio, people brag about not getting mugged, but in nearby Buenos Aires, you do not see much of that. And when you start talking Chile and Uruguay, you are probably safer there than most of the USA.[/QUOTE]The Census doesn't track illegals, its just a body count.

That's how California gets so many House seats.

That needs to change, the census needs proof of citizenship.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/[/URL]

Same with voter ID.

I believe the reasons CCPland outperforms Latin America.

Has a lot to do with Communism, the US built up Japan and SK and thought if they did the same with China they would neutralize the CCP that didn't happen.

They just built up its nuclear arsenal for them instead.

The other reason is numbers, depending on what countries you count Asia has about 4-5 billion dirt cheap slaves and Wall St was all in for some very very cheap slavery.

W / o Environmental Laws Labor Laws etc etc.

I believe the best global alliance for the US is with Latin American and the Middle Eastern countries (and Russia of course).

We are all Caucasians, and the CCP hates us (because they ain't us LOL) just look at the Uyghurs.

Elvis 2008:

[QUOTE]In 2020, when the Dems said that was the fairest election in history, I was like, are you fucking kidding me? But the Republicans tried to change things after the fact which was not going to happen. I was like Republicans you have to stop these guys before the election and they did not do enough because you cannot expect judges to over turn things, and they have learned and are getting judges involved before the full vote is cast. We all know the immigrants are being bribed with our tax dollars to vote Dem. The modern Dem has no morals. They think Trump is so evil that bribing immigrants to vote their way is okay.[/QUOTE]Ahem.

[B]Trumps own officials say 2020 was Americas most secure election in history.
Homeland Security put out a statement with state and local officials that countered the presidents fraud claims.
Nov. 14, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs[/URL]

[QUOTE]The 2020 US election was the most secure in American history, according to US elections officials.

The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double-checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result, the coordinating bodies on election infrastructure and security said in a joint statement issued by the [b]Department of Homeland Securitys Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)[/b].

The statement directly contradicts President Donald Trump, who has made unfounded allegations of widespread voting irregularities and fraud. The president is using these claims to challenge the vote counts in several key states that delivered President-elect Joe Biden his apparent Electoral College victory.[/QUOTE][B]Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was not stolen.
1/2/2024[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Ken Block, whom the Trump campaign hired in 2020 to find voter fraud in the election, penned an op-ed Tuesday stating unequivocally that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and that there was no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.[/QUOTE][B]Trump spread claims of election fraud debunked by his own legal team, Jan. 6 panel says.
Former AG Barr thought former president had become detached from reality
June 13, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://coloradonewsline.com/2022/06/13/trump-spread-claims-of-election-fraud-debunked-by-his-own-legal-team-jan-6-panel-says/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Fraud claims were also referred to the USA Department of Justice, then led by[b] Attorney General Bill Barr. [/b].

In taped testimony, Barr described "an avalanche of all these allegations of fraud that built up over a number of days. ".

The early claims "were completely bogus and silly and usually based on complete misinformation," Barr said.

In a late November meeting in the Oval Office, Trump pressured Barr to involve the Justice Department in the fraud investigations. Barr told the president the department would investigate specific allegations of fraud that could have swung the election, but that claims to that point were "just not meritorious. ".

Later, Trump asked Barr specifically about ballots in Detroit, where boxes were seen transported to a vote-counting station. Barr told Trump that that was to be expected as part of the city's process to centralize vote counting among its 600-plus precincts, Barr said.

Barr said he told Trump the fraud claims he was making to the public were "bulls* a comment also aired by the committee in its initial Thursday night hearing.

"I told him that it was crazy stuff and they were wasting their time on it and it was doing great, great disservice to the country," Barr said.

"he's become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff," Barr said he remembered thinking at the time. [/QUOTE]Obviously, somebody is watching way, way, way too much Fux News and nothing else. Lololol.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3047090]How much gas was used to mine for the batteries and rare earth metals which will back up this system that is destroying ocean environment? How much energy is lost on misty days? In ten years when the panels need to be replaced, that is literally 5 square miles of plastic panels wasted and polluting the environment. How much did the batteries cost?

5 square miles of pristine ocean to generate electricity than can't even produce electricity at night or in bad weather. Yea that makes a ton sense.

Keep up the scam though.[/QUOTE]Germany's largest offshore wind farm under construction, EnBW's he Dreiht, just hit a big milestone: The first enormous turbine is now up in the North Sea. [B]The first giant 15 MW turbine is up at Germany's largest offshore wind farm,[/B] [URL]https://electrek.co/2025/04/28/the-first-giant-15-mw-turbine-is-up-at-germanys-largest-offshore-wind-farm/[/URL].

Clearly the wind turbine tech in Germany is growing and expanding at fast pace and have none of those concerns, as their offshore wind farms are new putting up 15 GW turbines.

BTW, when will we see 15 GW of "rubbing rocks" together GW energy being produced, in NJ?

Greenland prime minister say they prefer Denmark than Trump. Nobody want Trump.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047188]In 2020, when the Dems said that was the fairest election in history, I was like, are you fucking kidding me? But the Republicans tried to change things after the fact which was not going to happen. I was like Republicans you have to stop these guys before the election and they did not do enough because you cannot expect judges to over turn things, and they have learned and are getting judges involved before the full vote is cast. We all know the immigrants are being bribed with our tax dollars to vote Dem. The modern Dem has no morals. They think Trump is so evil that bribing immigrants to vote their way is okay.

I did not know we had close to a million Vennies here. That is enough to flip any election. I actually think that is the real reason Trump took Maduro out not gold not oil but to deport any of the Vennies taking money to vote Dem. I expect Trump to build a Guantanamo like structure there, and to deport any immigrant who illegally votes in an election, and that is fine with me. Illegals voting in an election is not cute. It is as big a threat to our Democracy as Hitler was. They are stealing the USA blind..[/QUOTE]And the CCP is a bunch of racist atheists, they really really hate whites and Muslims, even in CCPland anyone not a Han is an outsider.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/04/world/asia/china-russia-xi-putin.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047225]Germany's largest offshore wind farm under construction, EnBW's he Dreiht, just hit a big milestone: The first enormous turbine is now up in the North Sea. [B]The first giant 15 MW turbine is up at Germany's largest offshore wind farm,[/B] [URL]https://electrek.co/2025/04/28/the-first-giant-15-mw-turbine-is-up-at-germanys-largest-offshore-wind-farm/[/URL].

Clearly the wind turbine tech in Germany is growing and expanding at fast pace and have none of those concerns, as their offshore wind farms are new putting up 15 GW turbines.

BTW, when will we see 15 GW of "rubbing rocks" together GW energy being produced, in NJ?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-weak-winds-trigger-record-surge-gas-fired-power-maguire-2024-12-04/[/URL]

Lets just hope those wind speeds pick up so the lights go on at night. Hahahahaha. I feel bad for all those ex-Nazi sons of bitchs they fell for that scam wind and solar shit. WW2 guilt did them in lololol.

Bro, Jersey shore summers are great. Go to the beach, fishing, boating, but best of all Velcro- Electricity is on 24 hours a day 365 days a year hahaha. So glad we have nuclear and didn't get dupped by AOC scum bag green new snake charm LOL.

How you going to feel when Iran falls? Trump is the Hydra of the right that the legends foretold. The Ancient Aztec prophecy of a golden god from the North who will swoop down and strike sonic blasts which explode his enemies heads are coming to fruition. Them dictators all playing ball now knowing Golden Donald can scoop them when ever he wants. Sonic Boom!! Lololol.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-used-sonic-weapon-venezuelan-troops-report-shared-leavitt-claims[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii6mXrVDtZU[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047114]So is having data centers good or bad? Do you want Texas to have higher energy costs? Or Virginia to have them? What similar fate do you want to Texas to suffer? Higher energy costs? More data centers? Turning blue? Given your knack for taking both sides of an issue, the answer to all these questions must be yes and no. If you are going to say I am wrong, maybe you should make sure what your position is.[/QUOTE]Dude, if you have any analytical skills at all, you'll see the data presented, paints a very different picture, than the MAGA nonsense, you're often peddling.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047114]Yeesh. I am so much smarter than you Elvis because of how I vote. Any moron can vote for a Democrat, you fool. [/QUOTE]You said it dude, once a fool, always a fool! You should know. BTW, is this your way of telling me, like thousands of other Repubs, you have voter buyer's remorse? However, I find it interestingly funny, how your MAGA Fuhrer, only seems to punish and unlawfully, withhold or cut fed funds from Blue States that didn't vote for him.

But you are right, it really does take a special kind of fool, [B][i]to vote for your MAGA Fuhrer...twice (2x)[/i][/B] after a failed insurrection, 2 x impeached, 4 x indicted, loser of $83 million sexual defamation case and found guilty of 34 criminal felony counts of falsifying business records.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047114]Europe cannot compete with China when it comes to the cost of producing cars, yet Europe still produces cars. How is that possible? You think that you are so smart when you say the dumbest things.[/QUOTE]Nice strongman argument, but this particular debate is about Europe competing on data centers, not producing cars.

[B]EU pushes new AI strategy to reduce tech reliance on US and China.[/B] The EU must promote homegrown artificial intelligence platforms and decrease its reliance on foreign providers, Brussels has said, as it prepares to set out a new plan to compete against the US and China in the global race for the revolutionary technology. [URL]https://www.ft.com/content/ea3d20ed-5b42-45ce-8155-67ef472ae9df[/URL].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047114]So even the greenest facilities rely on fossil fuels or the local grid for backup.[/QUOTE]Since data centers, like SINES Start Campus, are a top of the line, Tier IV facility, their annual downtime is like less than 1 hour. But in the invent they need longer backup-times from their generators, they use bio-fuels and then [U]as a last resort[/U] fossil fuel diesel if needed.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047114]Solar is cheaper but if you have a grid overly dependent on solar and wind as Spain and Portugal do, blackouts will be more frequent and blackouts cost data centers millions of dollars.[/QUOTE]Good point, but I think they've learnt a great deal from that blackout and now have installed battery grid forming inverters. Also SINES Start Campus, is a Tier IV data center facility and have backup bio-fuel generators, with additional battery backup in the coming future.

One of the best things they learnt from the blackout mistake, was how quickly this new flexible renewable grid, was able to restart from a blackout. What typically would take 1 or 2 days to power up from a nationwide black-start, only took 12 hours.

SINES Start Campus, is a state of the art data center, located in Europe. When finished, it will be like a $60 billion dollar facility, perhaps the best in the world.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047114]The biggest data center campuses will consume multiple gigawatts of power. ... Oh, solar is cheaper but let's leave out land costs. Solar is cheaper but let's leave out battery costs. Solar is cheaper but let's leave out the costs of fossil fuel backup. Solar is cheaper but let's leave out the costs of fossil fuel backup. Solar is cheaper but only when the sun is shining and the sunlight is bright. ...

So solar is not always cheaper nor better. And if you look at where there is plenty of sun, wind, and cheap land, the most cost effective place to be is West Texas. Texas is not Virginia. Our potential for alternative energy generation is practically unlimited. [/QUOTE][I][b]Duh!...Thats exactly what an LCOE is, when asked several times to present the lowest cost of energy![/b][/I]

Again for the uninitiated, if you don't understand, this is how analysts determine, across multiply energy sources, which is the lowest cost of energy.

[U]Definition of LCOE:[/U]
[LIST]The levelized cost of electricity/energy (LCOE), is a measure that calculates the average cost of electricity generation over the lifetime of a power plant, taking into account all costs associated with building and operating the plant divided by the total electricity produced. It is used to compare the cost-effectiveness of different energy generation technologies.[/LIST]
For weeks now, I'm been asking RamDavidson84, to provide FACTs and EVIDENCE, of an another energy generation source, that has lower or cheaper LCOE than solar, wind and / or solar or wind and batteries. And what do I get. Nothing but, [I][b]shuckin' and jivin' nonsense,[/b][/I] about "rubbing rocks" and wind turbines are a SCAM. Yeah, wind turbines that have, literally been around, generating energy, since the mid-19th century.

So now you chime in, [I]to do what exactly?[b]...co-sign[/b][/I] his nonsensical babbling "rubbing rocks" and wind SCAM, idiocy?

Do me a favor and STOP wasting my time, with all the bloviating MAGA nonsense, and for once in your lives, do a bit of homework and research into what you're debating, instead of simply repeating what comes out of your MAGA Fuhrer's mouth.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047211]Elvis 2008:

Ahem.

[B]Trumps own officials say 2020 was Americas most secure election in history.
Homeland Security put out a statement with state and local officials that countered the presidents fraud claims.
Nov. 14, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs[/URL]

[B]Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was not stolen.
1/2/2024[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen/[/URL]

[B]Trump spread claims of election fraud debunked by his own legal team, Jan. 6 panel says.
Former AG Barr thought former president had become detached from reality
June 13, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://coloradonewsline.com/2022/06/13/trump-spread-claims-of-election-fraud-debunked-by-his-own-legal-team-jan-6-panel-says/[/URL]

Obviously, somebody is watching way, way, way too much Fux News and nothing else. Lololol.[/QUOTE][URL]https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047211]Elvis 2008:

Ahem.

Trumps own officials say 2020 was Americas most secure election in history.
Homeland Security put out a statement with state and local officials that countered the presidents fraud claims.[/QUOTE]And what good would it have been for those officials to say otherwise? We did not have depositions Tooms, and you make it seem like "Trump officials" have this secret knowledge that others do not. We saw the boxes pulled out in Fulton County, and Republicans observers kicked out. We know now that the votes in Fulton County were not properly certified. Did the "Trump officials" do that work and say they were wrong? Hell no! It was not the NYT or CNN; it was a citizen journalist. He knows more than all the "Trump officials".

We saw Dems hanging up cardboard in heavily Democratic Wayne County, Michigan so no one could see what they were doing. And "Trump officials" said there was no cheating. How would they know?

Why is it that you need an ID in California to buy a beer but not to vote? The bullshit excuses you people come up with this when you are cheating is unreal. Oh, that is racist. How is racist to ask for an ID to vote but not racist when you are buying a beer?

The reason you do not need an ID in California to vote is so you Dems can cheat, and the reason there are no voter ID laws in California is you Dems are too chicken shit to think you can win if they were put into place.

You want to prove me things are fair? Change the fucking law and until then quit making excuses.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047284]You said it dude, once a fool, always a fool! You should know. BTW, is this your way of telling me, like thousands of other Repubs, you have voter buyer's remorse?[/QUOTE]No, this is me telling you that you are an arrogant ass. I understand Dems who vote the way they do because it is in their best interest, but you have no clue as to why people vote Republican. What you keep repeating is that MAGA people are stupid when the truth is you are a narrow minded, egotistical blockhead. And if you are voting Democrat as a form of identity versus how Democrats are actually performing for you, your mindset is a danger to Democracy.

You and Tooms go on and on about how terrible the economy is. But do you talk to people who actually live here? And if you did and those people said they are doing great under Trump or in my case that I have not noticed much difference between Trump and Biden, how would you respond? The appropriate response is to balance what is in the news with what you are hearing personally. But what you and Tooms do is insult the people living here if they do not agree with you. If you are doing better under Trump, you must be stupid. Everyone is doing worse!

Now I am sure there are people and businesses who have been hurt by tariffs, but the tsunami of predicted inflation has not shown up in my life or in the government's own number. Thing is that you ignore the ones doing better because of tariffs. In fact, if you are a typical Dem, it is impossible that anyone could be doing better because of tariffs when that is just not true.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047284]Nice strongman argument, but this particular debate is about Europe competing on data centers, not producing cars.[/QUOTE]LOL. No, it is the same reason. If a nation is not the low cost producer of an item, the government playbook is always the same. You give taxpayer subsidies to the industries you want in your country. You claim the products of the nation who can produce a good more cheaply are not safe. "We can't be dependent on American only data centers. We need our own!" and you put taxes on the goods from that other country, and you know what those taxes are called? They are called tariffs.

So, no, Europe cannot compete with the USA on a level playing field with data centers, so Europe titled the field. Your shining example of European success and green energy would go tits up without government assistance.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047284]But you are right, it really does take a special kind of fool, to vote for your MAGA Fuhrer...twice (2x) after a failed insurrection, 2 x impeached, 4 x indicted, loser of $83 million sexual defamation case and found guilty of 34 criminal felony counts of falsifying business records.[/QUOTE]And here we go again. You are married to all this identity politics bullshit versus performance. You took my tax dollars and went down that impeachment bullshit route to win versus performing? The problem with you dumb Dems is you want Congress and not the people to decide who should be president? FU! You are a traitor to Democracy. You want me to vote based on what some fucking New York judge or jury thinks versus my own self interests? Why would I do that especially when you dumb Dems make a habit of threatening judges? Judges are sages when they rule against Trump or say an election was not rigged, but if they say there is no right to an abortion? You Dems lose your shit.

You Dems elected a guy with obvious dementia, and after lying about him for years, you ditched him when the truth got out. Then God knows who picked the drunk and dumb as fuck Kamala and she picked a Veep in Tampon Timmy whose best quality for Kamala was that he was the rare person who looked more stupid than her. James Carville said she was a seventh stringer but not you.

In the last election, I intimately knew one of the judges locally and she is a Democrat, and I voted for her. I cannot imagine anyone could be more qualified to be a judge than her.

But is she were Republican, you would not vote for her. That you would vote for an incompetent Dem over a qualified Republicans makes you stupid, and you just did it in the last election.

Look at Hiliary compared to Kamala. I do not like her as a person, and I do not like her politics, but Hiliary is not a loser. She went to Yale and was successful as an attorney in private practice. Yeah, Bill helped her and made her career path easier but not for one fucking second do I think she needed him to make it. Kamala went to a shit law school, failed the bar, and the only reason she got into her position as the was sucking Willie Brown's dick. Kamala was a joke in the Democratic primaries. She got ahead (pun intended) because another white guy picked her based on her race and gender. And what has she done since losing the election outside of being drunk off her ass? And you fools keep going off on us for voting for Trump over her? That is laughable.

The best power source for Data Centers is nuclear energy. Data Centers: they cannot be turned off.

[B]Bitcoin mining operations[/B] are the best for renewable energy. They can be located where powered is stranded. They can be turned off when demands of the grid are exceeded.

The beauty of electricity it is not political. It cannot be created by the will of politicians. It is a true currency. You only get electricity if you put in the work. Something that cannot be said for political actors.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047286][I][b]Duh!...Thats exactly what an LCOE is, when asked several times to present the lowest cost of energy![/b][/I]

Again for the uninitiated, if you don't understand, this is how analysts determine, across multiply energy sources, which is the lowest cost of energy.

[U]Definition of LCOE:[/U]
[LIST]The levelized cost of electricity/energy (LCOE), is a measure that calculates the average cost of electricity generation over the lifetime of a power plant, taking into account all costs associated with building and operating the plant divided by the total electricity produced. It is used to compare the cost-effectiveness of different energy generation technologies.[/LIST]
For weeks now, I'm been asking RamDavidson84, to provide FACTs and EVIDENCE, of an another energy generation source, that has lower or cheaper LCOE than solar, wind and / or solar or wind and batteries. And what do I get. Nothing but, [I][b]shuckin' and jivin' nonsense,[/b][/I] about "rubbing rocks" and wind turbines are a SCAM. Yeah, wind turbines that have, literally been around, generating energy, since the mid-19th century..[/QUOTE]No that's just your TDS refusing to read my posts. Have written pages and pages on why I and my entire state feels the way it does. And if you want stats so bad, just take 2 minutes and post a link yourself, but all the links that show stats still don't change my mind because as I have said a million, not having consistent power and the amount of area the farms accupy combined with maintenance costs and combine that with environmental damage and it makes no sense even if it is cheaper.

You really are a delusional little TDS man.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3047275][URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-weak-winds-trigger-record-surge-gas-fired-power-maguire-2024-12-04/[/URL]

Lets just hope those wind speeds pick up so the lights go on at night. Hahahahaha. I feel bad for all those ex-Nazi sons of bitchs they fell for that scam wind and solar shit. WW2 guilt did them in lololol.

Bro, Jersey shore summers are great. Go to the beach, fishing, boating, but best of all Velcro- Electricity is on 24 hours a day 365 days a year hahaha. So glad we have nuclear and didn't get dupped by AOC scum bag green new snake charm LOL. [/QUOTE][I]I give up...what's this post, supposed to mean?[/I]

The Epstein "pedophile protector" gets called out by righteous heckler.

[B]Suspended Michigan autoworker who heckled Trump gets outpouring of donations,[/B] Jan 13,2025, [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/14/trump-suspended-michigan-autoworker[/URL].

The Ford employee who was flipped-the-bird by the MAGA Fuhrer, after he heckled him said he has "no regrets" about calling the president out, as [I][b]a "pedophile protector".[/b][/I] But it seems Americans agreed with heckler, as tens of thousands of dollars were raised, to support the suspended worker.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3047288][URL]https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/[/URL][/QUOTE]And the reason those brilliant, perfectly co-ordinated, smoothly and effectively hidden Dem plans for stealing elections didn't work in 2024 when all it took to determine the presidential election winner was for Netanyahu to delay his agreed-upon ceasefire until after the election and thereby swing no more than 114,900 angry Muslim votes from the Dem to the Repub in the only 3 swing states that mattered is, what, again?

LOL. How funny is it that within the first year of this supposedly big "rejection" of Dems election, ChristoFascist MAGA Mike can only afford to lose one Repub vote in the House and still get his disastrous, American economy-destroying agenda done. I thought 2024 was an Angry Muslim Mandate Red Wave election.

Nobody has been better for the CCP and its economy than Donald Trump.

Nobody.

[B]China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt.
Jan. 14, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-trade-ends-2025-with-record-trillion-dollar-surplus-despite-trump-tariffs-2026-01-14/[/URL]

[QUOTE]China posts record $1.189 trillion trade surplus in 2025

China's December dollar exports up 6.6% Y/Y, imports up 5.7%; beat forecasts

Strong exports come despite Trump's tariffs as China scales up new markets

China's ability to weather risks has been 'significantly enhanced', says official.[/QUOTE]Wait til you see how well Trump serves Putin's Russia Russia Russia and other dictatorships now that he will be very busy as Venezuela's new dictator and continues to initiate and wage new Wars Against America for the next 3 years. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3047235]Greenland prime minister say they prefer Denmark than Trump. Nobody want Trump.[/QUOTE]So bad image for USA under Trump and his robbers. When can t trust such crazies, Europe send support in Greenland. Again, as always, such Trump bullshit about Iran. Old fat senile orange likes too much to make his daily show, he should try in Hollywood. So boring to hear him.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047435]The Epstein "pedophile protector" gets called out by righteous heckler.

[B]Suspended Michigan autoworker who heckled Trump gets outpouring of donations,[/B] Jan 13,2025, [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/14/trump-suspended-michigan-autoworker[/URL].

The Ford employee who was flipped-the-bird by the MAGA Fuhrer, after he heckled him said he has "no regrets" about calling the president out, as [I][b]a "pedophile protector".[/b][/I] But it seems Americans agreed with heckler, as tens of thousands of dollars were raised, to support the suspended worker.[/QUOTE]UAW feels the same way. What happened to all that free speech the MAGA fucktards love so much?

[B]Statement on Ford Plant Visit - Ford Department Director - UAW | United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America[/B]

[URL]https://uaw.org/statement-on-ford-plant-visit-from-vp-laura-dickerson-ford-department-director/[/URL]

The best time for armageddon is when I'm asleep. That way I won't feel anything. Wake me up when World War 3 starts.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3047568]The best time for armageddon is when I'm asleep. That way I won't feel anything. Wake me up when World War 3 starts.[/QUOTE]Rather than sleeping, you should train very hard to be ready to run to fight, as soon starting, maybe in Venezuela or Iran, to know what is war reality, smelling blood and death, hearing weapons. Not like in Hollywood movies.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047385]No, this is me telling you that you are an arrogant ass. I understand Dems who vote the way they do because it is in their best interest, but you have no clue as to why people vote Republican. What you keep repeating is that MAGA people are stupid when the truth is you are a narrow minded, egotistical blockhead. And if you are voting Democrat as a form of identity versus how Democrats are actually performing for you, your mindset is a danger to Democracy.

You and Tooms go on and on about how terrible the economy is. But do you talk to people who actually live here? And if you did and those people said they are doing great under Trump or in my case that I have not noticed much difference between Trump and Biden, how would you respond? The appropriate response is to balance what is in the news with what you are hearing personally. But what you and Tooms do is insult the people living here if they do not agree with you. If you are doing better under Trump, you must be stupid. Everyone is doing worse!.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/UsaNewsLive/comments/1qcwrbu/ketanji_brown_jackson_fumbles_simple_legal_term/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/theconservativetribune/posts/ketanji-brown-jackson-humiliates-herself-again-frustrated-attorney-forced-to-tea/1314432664061727/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-calls-ketanji-brown-jackson-recipient-affirmative-action-who-unqualified[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theleadermaker.com/scotus-ketanji-jackson-its-about-my-feelings/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-president-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson-not-qualified-supreme-court[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047380]And what good would it have been for those officials to say otherwise? We did not have depositions Tooms, and you make it seem like "Trump officials" have this secret knowledge that others do not. We saw the boxes pulled out in Fulton County, and Republicans observers kicked out. We know now that the votes in Fulton County were not properly certified. Did the "Trump officials" do that work and say they were wrong? Hell no! It was not the NYT or CNN; it was a citizen journalist. He knows more than all the "Trump officials".

We saw Dems hanging up cardboard in heavily Democratic Wayne County, Michigan so no one could see what they were doing. And "Trump officials" said there was no cheating. How would they know?

Why is it that you need an ID in California to buy a beer but not to vote? The bullshit excuses you people come up with this when you are cheating is unreal. Oh, that is racist. How is racist to ask for an ID to vote but not racist when you are buying a beer?

The reason you do not need an ID in California to vote is so you Dems can cheat, and the reason there are no voter ID laws in California is you Dems are too chicken shit to think you can win if they were put into place.

You want to prove me things are fair? Change the fucking law and until then quit making excuses.[/QUOTE]And the guy Trump paid to look into everything for 3 solid years and found nothing?

[B]Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was not stolen.
01/02/2024[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Ken Block, whom the Trump campaign hired in 2020 to find voter fraud in the election, penned an op-ed Tuesday[b] stating unequivocally that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and that there was no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.[/b][/QUOTE]And Trump's own AG Bill Barr who looked into it, found nothing, called Trump a loon for obsessing over the nothing that is there and has had the same 5 years to read all the bullshit books, theories and fantasies you and all the judges who threw out the dozens and dozens of unsubstantiated claims have had to change his mind, but hasn't? See link in my earlier post.

Got anything for those?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3047591][URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/UsaNewsLive/comments/1qcwrbu/ketanji_brown_jackson_fumbles_simple_legal_term/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/theconservativetribune/posts/ketanji-brown-jackson-humiliates-herself-again-frustrated-attorney-forced-to-tea/1314432664061727/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-calls-ketanji-brown-jackson-recipient-affirmative-action-who-unqualified[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theleadermaker.com/scotus-ketanji-jackson-its-about-my-feelings/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-president-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson-not-qualified-supreme-court[/URL][/QUOTE]Casting the tie-breaking vote in the Senate as "President of the Senate" for an issue that was important enough to have actually garnered some otherwise Do Nothing, Know Nothing Repub votes, Trump's Vice President has no idea what he is voting for or which way he's supposed to vote, has to ask an aid to tell him what to do:

[URL]https://youtu.be/IuplKySL180?si=D9DHsb9FpIRFepqB[/URL]

BTW, what is it about these fat high-profile Repubs with beards that they have a sexual attraction for couches and other targets of their lust they really shouldn't target?

Meet a founding member of the Repub Freedom Caucus:

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047432][I]I give up...what's this post, supposed to mean?[/I][/QUOTE]No, don't give up now Velcro Spidy. We have been having so much fun since you decided to slander my very good friend who passed away and it is you who gave me this energy to constantly express my opinions with you.

Now, as for the post, it would be my grandest pleasure to explain in detail all it for you to ensure you have a deep level of understanding! Let's begin!

You posted an article about German wind farms, I was just once again pointing out to you one of the many flaws of wind power. It can't produce electricity when the wind doesn't blow while also explaining my opinion on why Germany even decided to build wind farms even though they are inferior to Nuclear. Germany feels guilt and shame for WW2, so everyone there has been too scared to speak up to the left's insanity and that's why they let the left run the country and create an energy crisis there.

The second part of the article is about how NJ is doing with its Nuclear energy and I was explaining to you why it is so great. Our beaches and summers here in NJ are priceless and we would pay double our electric bill to protect that and tell keep wind and solar farm snake charmers to FUCK OFF! Our beaches are way to important to the state than to cover with fucking wind mills that break and 6 months and you got to hire a crew of mountain climbers and million dollar a day cranes to fix. Yeah were good with out the solar and wind bull shit bro!

Then I was pointing out how Iran is about to fall because the protesters there are emboldened by the strength and savagery of the United States Military pulling off the great military achievement of this mother fucking century! Scooping Maduro without a single life lost. This mission will be remembered for hundreds of years and define Trump. If you click the link I posted, its an article about the sonic weapon the Special Forces used to explode the heads of their enemies and make them shit their Pants. Just like the most important man in Latin American history did, Hernan Cortez, when he brutally slaughtered an empire of millions with just a few hundred well armed and trained European Soldiers. Our special forces took on hundreds of soldiers and massively outnumbered but came out victorious in a very similar vain and I could be more proud to be American thinking about it. I just wanted to share that with you. And when Iran falls and Trump brings peace to those terrorists who don't even let their women show their face in public, once again it will be a sin if he isn't nominated for a Nobel fucking Peace Prize.

Green going to take the money too! Then we will all just enjoy the SPOILS OF THE OILS BABY! WHOOOOOOOOO! LOLOLOL.

Its a great day to be a republican lolololol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047622]Casting the tie-breaking vote in the Senate as "President of the Senate" for an issue that was important enough to have actually garnered some otherwise Do Nothing, Know Nothing Repub votes, Trump's Vice President has no idea what he is voting for or which way he's supposed to vote, has to ask an aid to tell him what to do:

[URL]https://youtu.be/IuplKySL180?si=D9DHsb9FpIRFepqB[/URL]

BTW, what is it about these fat high-profile Repubs with beards that they have a sexual attraction for couches and other targets of their lust they really shouldn't target?

Meet a founding member of the Repub Freedom Caucus:[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUp0Pr-sVcU[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047385]No, this is me telling you that you are an arrogant ass. I understand Dems who vote the way they do because it is in their best interest, but you have no clue as to why people vote Republican. ... And if you are voting Democrat as a form of identity ...

You and Tooms go on and on about how terrible the economy is. But do you talk to people who actually live here?.[/QUOTE]No not really, but good rant! But do get back to me and the debate, once you've figured out, what an LCOE is.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3047625]You posted an article about German wind farms, I was just once again pointing out to you one of the many flaws of wind power.[/QUOTE]Same goes for you, once you've figured out what an LCOE is, and perhaps explain why, despite all the "downsides" of wind turbines (and solar), when in 2025, approximately [B]150 gigawatts (GW) of new wind capacity[/B] and around 380 GW of new solar capacity were installed worldwide, compared to ONLY a paltry 12 GW of nuclear worldwide, which was mostly in China? Explain, what exactly, makes this much clean energy [I](12x/30x wind/solar vs nuclear),[/I] a so called "Green SCAM", according to your MAGA ignorance?

[U]Electrification lessons from the illegal attack on Venezuela:[/U]

What you guys fail to realize, is that when right-wing dictators, tyrannical regimes (especially petrostate ones, like MAGA and your MAGA Fuhrer), invade other sovereign countries, on such pretexts as, [B]"narco terrorism"[/B] or [B]"weapons of mass destruction"[/B] or [B]"harboring terrorist groups"[/B] or [B]"national security",[/B] without first providing concrete evidentiary proof or the approval of congress or the people, it usually represents a clear signal, these petrostate regimes only wish to pillage, plunder and exploit, these sovereign nations for their natural assets and resources.

[U]The Weaponization of Venezuelan Oil and Gas:[/U]

So while the low hanging fruit of [I]"narco terrorism",[/I] and bogus claims and pretexts of [I]"oil being transported to terrorist organizations",[/I] will always appealed to a gullible MAGA base, when it was ALWAYS clear to the rest of America (and the world), this was the MAGA Fuhrer, weaponizing Venezuelan oil and gas, as a means to bring other sovereign nations, to heel, like China, that have an clear international right to trade with Venezuela, for their oil, whether the USA Likes it or not.

[U]The Electrification Message is Clear:[/U]

Thanks to the MAGA Fuhrer and his fake strongman bullying, in this part of the world, as he has now slapped name on and dubbed [I]"his hemisphere"[/I], if it wasn't already clear by now, to the rest of the Americas (Canada, Brazil, Mexico, Chile, Bolivia, Panama, Argentina), and to many other countries around the world, [I][b]"...START electrifying everything...NOW!"[/b][/I] and diversify away from the reliance of fossil fuels and petrostate influences.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047453]Nobody has been better for the CCP and its economy than Donald Trump.

Nobody.

[B]China's trade ends 2025 with record $1.2 trillion surplus despite Trump tariff jolt.
Jan. 14, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-trade-ends-2025-with-record-trillion-dollar-surplus-despite-trump-tariffs-2026-01-14/[/URL]

Wait til you see how well Trump serves Putin's Russia Russia Russia and other dictatorships now that he will be very busy as Venezuela's new dictator and continues to initiate and wage new Wars Against America for the next 3 years. LOL.[/QUOTE]What happened to the MAGA Fuhrer's economic policies, where "the other countries would be paying the tariffs"? LOL!

Immediately after many of the 2020 Biden voters who decided to stay home and not bother to vote in 2024 because they were perfectly fine with their financial circumstances and had allowed themselves to be bamboozled by pro Repub pretend "bothsiders / neithersiders" into assuming it really doesn't matter all that much which Party is in the White House and that tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only 3 swing states that mattered foolishly switched their usual Dem vote to a Repub vote, the horrible realization set in that those disastrous decisions meant Donald Trump squeaked out a razor-thin win and would again produce the crap results he has been producing his entire life and most notably disastrous as a so-called president.

Consequently, Dem Party identification and Dem-leaning Independent affiliation has surged, as shown in this year-end Gallop Poll, many other polls and virtually every special or off-year election since January 20,2025:

[B]New High of 45% in U.S. Identify as Political Independents.
More independents lean Democratic than Republican, giving Democrats edge in party affiliation for first time since 2021.[/B]

[URL]https://news.gallup.com/poll/700499/new-high-identify-political-independents.aspx[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]Democratic-Leaning Independents Give Democrats Edge[/b]

Gallup has regularly asked political independents since 1991 whether they lean more toward the Republican or Democratic Party.

Last year, more political independents said they lean toward the Democratic Party than the Republican Party, with [b]the 45% of political independents breaking down into 20% Democratic leaners, 15% Republican leaners[/b] and 10% non-leaners. That is a shift from 2024, representing a three-point decline in Republican leaners and a three-point increase in Democratic leaners.[/QUOTE]Doing the math, it is inarguable that people who still identify with, support and vote for Repubs are the genuine loony fringe in America.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047666]No not really, but good rant! But do get back to me and the debate, once you've figured out, what an LCOE is.[/QUOTE]You already posted the definition. And you want a standing ovation because you realized that energy production costs money? LOL. What gets me is that you think this calculated cost is definitive versus what it really is, an estimate. You are trying to say that the LCOE of solar and wind is less than that of fossil fuels. As I have said before, that may be the case today in some places but it does not mean it will be tomorrow.

But you are new to the party. The oil companies used the same bullshit technique to say that ethanol production from corn in the USA was a net energy cost when an infrastructure buildup and money were being poured into it. The oil companies said ethanol from Brazil was cost effective but the American farmer could not make it without subsidies and tariffs. The irony is in in the mid 2010's Brazil had farming and drought issues with their sugar cane and ethanol production and the unthinkable happened. American farmers ended up exporting the supposedly cost ineffective ethanol to Brazil. Oops!

The reason ethanol was being talked about was the USA was we were running out of oil or more correctly oil that could be obtained profitably.

The Republican call for drill, baby, drill has led to horizontal drilling AKA fracking and in 20 years, USA oil production has gone from 5 million BPD to 13 million. In short, calling for doing that was 100% correct, and the USA has gone from being the world's largest importer of crude to being not just net self-sufficient but the world's largest producer.

And of course, the oil companies criticism of American ethanol production has totally stopped while production continues on. The only constant in the energy markets has been you Dems making fun of drill, baby, drill even when production has soared.

What is so funny is your use of LCOE is as definitive as your "scientist's" use of global warming. I looked at the complicated equation used for prediction and laughed at it. If there is just one variable off, the whole calculation goes to shit, and it turns out that one variable that was wrong was assuming sunlight was constant and predictable and it is not.

Of course, this was comedy gold for Republians. Global warming has nothing to do with the sun? Oh, yeah, we Dems had better change it to man made induced climate change. And how the fuck do you know climate change is man made? Was the climate constant before man was around? Wasn't there a volcano explosion causing global cooling for years or a meteor that changed the climate such that dinosaurs went extinct? So you "scientists" do not know. You are making estimates or educated guesses, and that is the same with your LCOE.

So here is your homework Spidy. Show me one of your so called experts who predicted the USA would nearly triple its oil production 20 years ago and then come back to make me with your busllhit projections. You Dems keep making the same mistakes again and again.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047676]Immediately after many of the 2020 Biden voters who decided to stay home and not bother to vote in 2024 because they were perfectly fine with their financial circumstances and had allowed themselves to be bamboozled by pro Repub pretend "bothsiders / neithersiders" into assuming it really doesn't matter all that much which Party is in the White House and that tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only 3 swing states that mattered foolishly switched their usual Dem vote to a Repub vote, the horrible realization set in that those disastrous decisions meant Donald Trump squeaked out a razor-thin win and would again produce the crap results he has been producing his entire life and most notably disastrous as a so-called president.[/QUOTE]Did you have an orgasm after all that mental masturbation? You seem to be saying that these angry Muslims cost Harris the election. Somehow I do not think the Somali Minnesota muslims changed their vote.

The problem with your dumb rewrite is you blow things off that did matter to people. With 2020, your dumb comments about an election not being rigged blow off the literal conspiracy to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story. With 2024, you missed how grotesque the DOJ was weaponized to disqualify Trump. You blow off Biden lying his ass off when he said that he would not pardon Hunter Biden and go crazy when Trump pardoned that ex-president from Honduras.

Trump did not even offer up an excuse for the ex-president's pardon. It was, "I looked into his prosecution and it was bullshit. " Uh, okay. I heard those critical of Trump for doing this, but you all have been so critical about EVERYTHING with Trump, it is hard to listen to you all. I really could not defend Trump on this; I could only trust him. Was Trump messing around in Latin American politics which he had no business doing?

With Maduro, the answer was yes. Thing is Maduro was pure evil and I was in favor of getting him, but Trump got the crazy idea that he could be rigging elections and engaging in actions such that he could and should be choosing who heads up foreign nations. Trump is doing the same thing you Democrats have been doing. He and you have no respect for the will of the people. You Dems only agree with the people when they vote for you. Look at your fucked up primary process.

Because of the success with Maduro, Trump has lost it and is now talking about using the military in Greenland and Iran.

Trump would have my support if he stopped issuing permanent type visas to Somalia and a few countries similar to it given what happened but seventy five countries? What got me is what he did in Latin America. Colombia is bad but Peru, Ecuador, and Bolivia are not? Brazil and Uruguay are bad but Argentina is fine?

Of course not. The obvious link is whether Trump likes the leaders of those countries or not. Sorry, Donny Boy, but the people and not you get to choose their leaders. You are doing what the Dems have done with their stupid impeachments and not respecting an elected leader.

So the trust with me at this point is gone. Donnie, what were you doing pardoning this ex-president? At this point, you have to prove to me that you did not issue a pardon for your own personal gain. Making this worse is that Trump just pardoned people whom were found guilty of crimes but that Trump personally liked.

For the mid terms, then Trump had better come to his senses if he wants me to vote Republican but I doubt that will happen. He seems more out of control every day. If the Dems come out with their same stupid DEI, men playing women's sports, anti-racist racism crap, I will sit on the side lines. If the Dems decide to get religion as Clinton did on not exessively spending money, going back to their principles on freedom of speech from the 1970's, and embracing MLK and juding others by the content of one's character and not the color of one's skin, that I will vote for them. However, I think that is as likely to happen as Trump coming to his senses.

For me, right now, it is not Republicans good, Dems bad. It is both parties are bad, and I have not felt this way since 2012. That year we had an election between a presidential hypocrite who bashed the rich while yucking it up with super rich CEOs and a Republican candidate who was one of those crony capitalist super rich CEOs.

When Trump is really a too stupid robber, I think this is really time not to buy Trump products, versus his racketing. Same like I don t buy Chinese products, most being low quality or even dangerous, but also because I would feel not responsible about our planet, from their big pollution and lies, and also about human rights, when too many slaves and children. Sad world with shameful USA and China. I m proud Europe resist to Trump for Ukraine and Greenland which don t want him. Only criminal Netanyahou welcome him.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047876]Did you have an orgasm after all that mental masturbation? You seem to be saying that these angry Muslims cost Harris the election. Somehow I do not think the Somali Minnesota muslims changed their vote.

The problem with your dumb rewrite is you blow things off that did matter to people. With 2020, your dumb comments about an election not being rigged blow off the literal conspiracy to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story. With 2024, you missed how grotesque the DOJ was weaponized to disqualify Trump. You blow off Biden lying his ass off when he said that he would not pardon Hunter Biden and go crazy when Trump pardoned that ex-president from Honduras.

Trump did not even offer up an excuse for the ex-president's pardon. It was, "I looked into his prosecution and it was bullshit. " Uh, okay. I heard those critical of Trump for doing this, but you all have been so critical about EVERYTHING with Trump, it is hard to listen to you all. I really could not defend Trump on this; I could only trust him. Was Trump messing around in Latin American politics which he had no business doing?

With Maduro, the answer was yes. Thing is Maduro was pure evil and I was in favor of getting him, but Trump got the crazy idea that he could be rigging elections and engaging in actions such that he could and should be choosing who heads up foreign nations. Trump is doing the same thing you Democrats have been doing. He and you have no respect for the will of the people. You Dems only agree with the people when they vote for you. .[/QUOTE]Your newfound pretend "bothsider / neithersiderism" will still help your beloved Trump and his MAGA Repub Cult in Congress fuck up America's economy and national security every day of every week of every month until a Dem House and possibly Senate Majority can stop him but even then only partially stop him a full horrible year from now.

Gee, thanks for your sudden awareness about the total shitstorm your 2024 Trump vote has and will continue to inflict on America and the American people.

But it is way too little and way too late for your sudden concern to do a damn bit of good for anybody or to keep you out of a well-deserved eternity of the tortures of hell after your demise.

Sorry. Take it up with God at the Pearly Gates. But I seriously doubt he will throw a pardon at you for what you have done.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3047670]What happened to the MAGA Fuhrer's economic policies, where "the other countries would be paying the tariffs"? LOL![/QUOTE]Trump just got the Nobel Peace Prize from a Venie hahahaha.

Guy is unstoppable. Ends wars before they begin and takes over whole nations without losing a soldier. Love him or hate him, he produces real results.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047986]Your newfound pretend "bothsider / neithersiderism" will still help your beloved Trump and his MAGA Repub Cult in Congress fuck up America's economy and national security every day of every week of every month until a Dem House and possibly Senate Majority can stop him but even then only partially stop him a full horrible year from now.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sorry, I did not ask for your apology. When you Dems ignore voting, you are evil. That Trump is doing likewise makes him evil. That you cloak that in bothsiderism shows quite frankly how dumb you are. You have no principles. The Dems have not had a fair primary season where voters actually picked their candidate since Obama ran for a second term.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047986]Gee, thanks for your sudden awareness about the total shitstorm your 2024 Trump vote has and will continue to inflict on America and the American people.[/QUOTE]Try again. He is copying what you all did. He has weaponized the IRS as you have done. He is handing out pardons like candy just like Biden did or whomever was signing said pardons. He is messing around in foreign countries. He has been looking to fight wars just like you all did with Ukraine. You think Ukraine was all Putin? How convenient for you that the world is so black and white.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3047986]But it is way too little and way too late for your sudden concern to do a damn bit of good for anybody or to keep you out of a well-deserved eternity of the tortures of hell after your demise.

Sorry. Take it up with God at the Pearly Gates. But I seriously doubt he will throw a pardon at you for what you have done.[/QUOTE]Sorry, dude, but I do not look the other way when evil is going on unlike you. Your excuse is to blame all evil on Republicans while you surround yourself with yes men who agree with you. We saw that with you all and Maduro. You cared more about Trump looking badly than the fate of 30 million people.

You must have missed the part where I said Dems bad, Republicans bad. That you took that to mean you are righteous shows just how full of it you are.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3048002]Trump just got the Nobel Peace Prize from a Venie hahahaha.

Guy is unstoppable. Ends wars before they begin and takes over whole nations without losing a soldier. Love him or hate him, he produces real results.[/QUOTE]Trump just passed Vennie from one dictator to another. He hasn't taken over anything. If that were the case the oil companies would be going over there. They are scared shitless because there's no protection. There goes your assertion that USA has "taken over" a country. LOL.

Unstoppable Repub Trump is already on track in his 2nd term to surpass the real results he produced in his 1st term when for the first time since Repub Herbert Hoover he left office with fewer jobs in the economy than existed when he took office yet somehow managed to jack up the deficit my Trillions more than all the presidents before him and, amazingly, without laying a single brick or erecting a single support beam for infrastructure improvement anywhere in the country after 4 solid years of promising us his "Infrastructure Week" concepts of a plan were coming in "two weeks".

All of which results helped earn him the rank of Worst President in USA History by a group of non partisan historians.

Here are some of his unstoppable real results so far just in his first 2nd term year after inheriting the Envy of the World Economy from Dems Biden-Harris:

[B]Trumps tariffs trigger rising rate of job layoffs inside supply chain: ASCM/CNBC survey.
Jan. 12, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/12/trump-tariffs-jobs-layoffs-economy.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Rising costs associated with President Trumps tariffs have resulted in increased layoffs and less capital for investments, according to supply chain professionals surveyed by Association for Supply Chain Management and CNBC.

65% of survey respondents reported at least a 10%-15% increase in their supply chain costs, and business tell CNBC that even if the Supreme Court rules IEEPA tariffs illegal, refunds wont recover many costs they have incurred.[/QUOTE][B]Bankruptcies soared to a 15-year high in 2025 as companies struggled to cope with Trumps trade wars.
Among the firms that filed for bankruptcy this year were Spirit Airlines and solar company PosiGen.
Dec. 27, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/corporate-bankruptcies-increase-trump-trade-wars-b2890965.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Corporate bankruptcies soared to a 15-year high in 2025 as companies struggled to cope with President Donald Trumps trade wars, among other factors, according to a new report.

No fewer than 717 companies filed for Chapter 7 or Chapter 11 bankruptcy between January and November, according to S&P data reviewed by The Washington Post. This marks a 14 percent increase from the same period in 2024 and the highest rate since 2010, when the country was recovering from the Great Recession.[/QUOTE][B]2025 was the worst year for hiring since 2020, December jobs report shows.
The U.S. added 50,000 jobs last month, a mixed report capping off a difficult year for the labor market.
Jan. 9, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/december-jobs-report-unemployment-rate-rcna253115[/URL]

[QUOTE]Just 584,000 jobs were created in 2025, far below the more than 2 million added in each of the prior two years, and the more than 4 million hires in 2022, the height of the post-pandemic recovery.

Last year, the labor market added jobs at an average pace of 48,000 jobs per month, after revisions.
..........
President Donald Trumps administration has also pursued aggressive immigration restrictions, and as a result many companies have taken a cautious approach to hiring noncitizens

Economists have said that rising immigration in recent years helped to address persistent U.S. labor shortages and bolstered the jobs market as a whole.[/QUOTE]Of course, as always, the "worst since a previous historic Repub policy and stewardship economic disaster" comparison fully applies.

Trump just abandoned US allies who defeated ISIS terrorists in Syria, namely the SDF who consist of secular Kurds, Arabs and other ethnicities. Leaving them to the mercy of former Al Qaeda leader a terrorist group who was the planner and committer of 9-11 attacks on world trade center.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3048055]Unstoppable Repub Trump is already on track in his 2nd term to surpass the real results he produced in his 1st term when for the first time since Repub Herbert Hoover he left office with fewer jobs in the economy than existed when he took office yet somehow managed to jack up the deficit my Trillions more than all the presidents before him and, amazingly, without laying a single brick or erecting a single support beam for infrastructure improvement anywhere in the country after 4 solid years of promising us his "Infrastructure Week" concepts of a plan were coming in "two weeks".

All of which results helped earn him the rank of Worst President in USA History by a group of non partisan historians.

Here are some of his unstoppable real results so far just in his first 2nd term year after inheriting the Envy of the World Economy from Dems Biden-Harris:

[B]Trumps tariffs trigger rising rate of job layoffs inside supply chain: ASCM/CNBC survey.
Jan. 12, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/12/trump-tariffs-jobs-layoffs-economy.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[B]Bankruptcies soared to a 15-year high in 2025 as companies struggled to cope with Trumps trade wars.
Among the firms that filed for bankruptcy this year were Spirit Airlines and solar company PosiGen.
Dec. 27, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/corporate-bankruptcies-increase-trump-trade-wars-b2890965.html[/URL]

[B]2025 was the worst year for hiring since 2020, December jobs report shows.
The U.S. added 50,000 jobs last month, a mixed report capping off a difficult year for the labor market.
Jan. 9, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/december-jobs-report-unemployment-rate-rcna253115[/URL]

Of course, as always, the "worst since a previous historic Repub policy and stewardship economic disaster" comparison fully applies.[/QUOTE]Trump doesn't care about all this, the olligarch who are support him doesn't care about it neither. More poor people is an excellent thing for the richest and more powerfull people.

When is it the end of the world already? Jeez! I'm waiting for world war 3. Hello? Let's blow this popsicle stand! Humanity sucks and not in the good way.

*sigh* I just want to watch the world burn, is that too much to ask?

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3047405]The best power source for Data Centers is nuclear energy. Data Centers: they cannot be turned off.

[B]Bitcoin mining operations[/B] are the best for renewable energy. They can be located where powered is stranded. They can be turned off when demands of the grid are exceeded.

[b]The beauty of electricity it is not political.[/b] It cannot be created by the will of politicians. It is a true currency. You only get electricity if you put in the work. Something that cannot be said for political actors.[/QUOTE]I would also add, that the other beauty of electricity, is that there is [B]an abundance[/B] of it, that can be created and harvested "freely" anywhere in the world.

So while the lame-duck MAGA Fuhrer and it's zombie admin 2. 0, hamstrings America, with its dumbass "drill-baby-drill" policies and its Epstein Pedo Sex File distractions, China's ACP100 SMR, is quietly redefining and perfecting small nuclear reactor technology.

And although, there is still some finalization work to be done, on the commercial viability of the ACP100, the good news is, China's ACP100 SMR, has just completed and passed its non-nuclear turbine test run. China's ACP100 is not the world's first SMR, but it is the first of its kind and the front-runner, in a new class of smaller, safer, [B]factory-built reactors[/B] could reach practical and commercially viability.

[B]Chinese SMR completes non-nuclear steam start up test,[/B] Thursday, 8 January 2026, [URL]https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/chinese-smr-completes-non-nuclear-steam-start-up-test[/URL].

If proven viable with a true "modular" style build, from factory to plant site, with a significant decrease in construction time and "Lego-like" assembly and scalability, of about 2-3 years or less, it could be prove to be a game changer, towards a more electrostate world.

[QUOTE=Mskofmsk;3048103]Trump just abandoned US allies who defeated ISIS terrorists in Syria, namely the SDF who consist of secular Kurds, Arabs and other ethnicities. Leaving them to the mercy of former Al Qaeda leader a terrorist group who was the planner and committer of 9-11 attacks on world trade center.[/QUOTE]Well, Trump has his Trump Towers in Istanbul so Kelbdogan and his Al Qaeda friends in Syria are allowed to do anything they want.

If the SDF wants to get treated fairly by the current administration in the White House they better get two, or more, Trump Towers just as turkey.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3048055]Unstoppable Repub Trump is already on track in his 2nd term to surpass the real results he produced in his 1st term when for the first time since Repub Herbert Hoover he left office with fewer jobs in the economy than existed when he took office yet somehow managed to jack up the deficit my Trillions more than all the presidents before him and, amazingly, without laying a single brick or erecting a single support beam for infrastructure improvement anywhere in the country after 4 solid years of promising us his "Infrastructure Week" concepts of a plan were coming in "two weeks".

All of which results helped earn him the rank of Worst President in USA History by a group of non partisan historians.

Here are some of his unstoppable real results so far just in his first 2nd term year after inheriting the Envy of the World Economy from Dems Biden-Harris:.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2026/01/19/nolte-gop-probes-how-democrats-use-illegals-and-refugees-to-rig-elections/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3048002]Trump just got the Nobel Peace Prize from a Venie hahahaha.

Guy is unstoppable. Ends wars before they begin and takes over whole nations without losing a soldier. Love him or hate him, he produces real results.[/QUOTE]No award from Nobel for him, when his business is mostly bullshiting and robbering. Despite DT sucking so much Putin to make business with him, still war in Ukraine fortunately supported by Europe. Netanyahou still killing in Gaza, when supported by Trump. Far from peace. In Europe, versus crazy dangerous senile Trump, we have 13000 billions USD values, like we should take Russia values, best way to stop war.

[QUOTE=Mskofmsk;3048103]Trump just abandoned US allies who defeated ISIS terrorists in Syria, namely the SDF who consist of secular Kurds, Arabs and other ethnicities. Leaving them to the mercy of former Al Qaeda leader a terrorist group who was the planner and committer of 9-11 attacks on world trade center.[/QUOTE]CIA instructed who fucked world trade center. This is USA with huge holes about safety.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047869]You already posted the definition. And you want a standing ovation because you realized that energy production costs money? LOL. What gets me is that you think this calculated cost is definitive versus what it really is, an estimate.[/QUOTE]Okay, Doc Einstein, since it sounds like "you know better" than everyone else, I'd love to hear what is it, you think industry analysts should use?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047869]You are trying to say that the LCOE of solar and wind is less than that of fossil fuels.[/QUOTE]I'll let the analytical data, facts and trends on LCOE speak for themselves. But perhaps you should open your eyes, read and do some homework for a change, instead of listen to every crap about renewables that comes out of your MAGA Fuhrer's mouth, or co-signing dumbass postings about renewables being a SCAM!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047869]As I have said before, that may be the case today in some places but it does not mean it will be tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Duh! Is this Carnac the Magnificent, trying to tell me he's got some magical way of figuring out LCOE into the future? Rather then using LCOE of today?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047869]The reason ethanol ... [/QUOTE]I think you missed the point of your own story? That being, while the "shale revolution" was a tremendous and timely "PIVOT", made by President Bush, to bolster [I] U.S. Energy security,[/I] in the 2000's has served America very well, it's diminishing role in an electrified era, won't.

But don't forget, that same energy program, thrived and excelled under President Obama's [I][b]"All-of-the-Above" energy strategy,[/b][/I] that sought to develop every available source of American energy, realizing that 2 percent of the world's oil reserves, isn't enough oil and [I]nat.gas was more of a "bridge fuel"[/I] towards a cleaner energy future.

This [I]"All-of-the-Above",[/I] energy strategy, was echoed under President Biden, in the IRA Bill, as (inexplicably IMHO) the oil and gas industry, also got billions for bogus CSS and DAC programs. This again was the [U][i][b]Dems supporting all forms of cleaner energy.[/b][/i][/U].

[U]U.S. Energy Security Under the MAGA Fuhrer:[/U]

Then [NOPARSE]we come to the U.S. energy security under your MAGA Fuhrer regime and he totally blindsides and hamstrings American future energy security interests, by blowing up and cancelling any clean energy tech, previously gained by Presidents Obama and Biden, only promoting dirty fossil fuels.

These backwards looking, antithetical, neanderthal, fossil fuel MAGA energy policies, WILL NOT serve America [/NOPARSE]well, [B]in a future that,[/B] for most people (who aren't half-wits) would agree, [B]is mostly electric[/B].

[U]Will China now capture and dominate the SMR market?:[/U]

So, in case you missed it, in my recent post, "Electrostate vs. Petrostate: Nuclear advance lessons from China's ACP100 SMR", China is poised and on the verge of true "modular" and "scalable" SMR builds. Meanwhile your Fuhrer, continues to pick your pockets and hamstrings American clean energy innovation with fossil fuel "drill-baby-drill" only polices.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3048119]Trump doesn't care about all this, the olligarch who are support him doesn't care about it neither. [B]More poor people is an excellent thing for the richest and more powerfull people.[/b][/QUOTE]The part highlighted by me has been the entire economic philosophy, agenda and, no wild coincidence or witch's curse, the result of every elected Repub's economic policies and stewardship since the inception of the Republican Party.

Now they have Trump's Tariffs and Trade War economic policies delighting and pleasing Xi while his foreign policies of weakening and destroying NATO, making enemies of our allies, are delighting and pleasing Putin.

In Repub- / MAGA- / Trump-World, that is a major Win-Win. Of course, they love him for it.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3048295]CIA instructed who fucked world trade center. This is USA with huge holes about safety.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/JpHmuVZ-Pdg?si=r0BjTGJRMaJ6Tb7x[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/china-cant-make-consumers-buy-goods-so-it-leans-services-drive-economy-2026-01-20/[/URL]

Even they don't want to the toxic trash they make.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3048215][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2026/01/19/nolte-gop-probes-how-democrats-use-illegals-and-refugees-to-rig-elections/[/URL][/QUOTE]Well, maybe the Repub House and Senate Majority can get something else really stupid done in light of their failure to get anything positive for America done.

So they think they have found something that 60+ Team Trump prosecutors facing 60+ GOP and Dem judges couldn't find and got laughed out of court about, desperate Repub Trump-enabler AG Bill Barr couldn't find, the guy Trump paid dumb Repub hillbilly sucker money to for 3 years to find but couldn't find.

Question: how does the fact that Obama and Biden each deported many more illegal aliens per year than Trump ever did, genuine criminals and not just nail salon technicians, gardeners and busboys, fit in with that big piece of the Repub puzzle where Dems enlist illegal aliens to conspire with them in a criminal enterprise?

Among other huge holes in the Repubs' presumed but never evident logic.

Inquiring minds want to know.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTn-E4bDazw/?igsh=dTdpempuZ3BkZzF5[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3048238]No award from Nobel for him, when his business is mostly bullshiting and robbering. Despite DT sucking so much Putin to make business with him, still war in Ukraine fortunately supported by Europe. Netanyahou still killing in Gaza, when supported by Trump. Far from peace. In Europe, versus crazy dangerous senile Trump, we have 13000 billions USD values, like we should take Russia values, best way to stop war.[/QUOTE]Just a senile in full delirium, megaloman old ugly guy who think he is king of the world, but failing for USA economics, jobs and of course to stop wars, but trying hard robbering Ukraine, Greenland, Venezuela.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3048350][URL]https://youtu.be/JpHmuVZ-Pdg?si=r0BjTGJRMaJ6Tb7x[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/china-cant-make-consumers-buy-goods-so-it-leans-services-drive-economy-2026-01-20/[/URL]

Even they don't want to the toxic trash they make.[/QUOTE]Didn't CIA instruct Bin Laden before he fucked USA.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048311]Okay, Doc Einstein, since it sounds like "you know better" than everyone else, I'd love to hear what is it, you think industry analysts should use?

I'll let the analytical data, facts and trends on LCOE speak for themselves. But perhaps you should open your eyes, read and do some homework for a change, instead of listen to every crap about renewables that comes out of your MAGA Fuhrer's mouth, or co-signing dumbass postings about renewables being a SCAM!

Duh! Is this Carnac the Magnificent, trying to tell me he's got some magical way of figuring out LCOE into the future? Rather then using LCOE of today?

I think you missed the point of your own story? That being, while the "shale revolution" was a tremendous and timely "PIVOT", made by President Bush, to bolster [I] U.S. Energy security,[/I] in the 2000's has served America very well, it's diminishing role in an electrified era, won't..[/QUOTE]This is a typical stupid binary Spidy post. You take a complicated subject and boil it down to good and bad. China? Good. Obama, Bush, Biden? Good. Trump? Bad. Oil companies? Bad. I know what LCOE is, and you don't. Oh, LCOE is an estimate? Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, what would you use?

If you know what the energy markets are going to do, there is a futures market and you can plop down all your cash and if you are right, you can make a killing. How about you do that? Oh, yeah, sorry, you are a dumb Dem. You want to take other people's money and do that and not your own.

I love how you Dems are so smart and cocky with your green energy is good crap, and you neglect to mention that the people who bought into that narrative like Europe did are paying twice as much for electricity as the USA that did not.

And you Dems bash the rich when you are the ones sucking the population dry of money. Blue states pay through the nose for energy in comparison to most red states. Gasoline is like $2 more a gallon in California than neighboring states.

And Trump is destroying our future with drill, baby, drill? LOL. Here are two questions that you won't answer. Was there more drilling under Biden or Trump? Did the oil and gas companies make more money under Biden or Trump? Yeah, thank God, you command the facts so well.

And another post about China? You must have to type one handed seeing as you are stroking Xi's dick with your other hand. China built a small modular nuclear reactor. Wow! You neglect to mention that Russia has built one years earlier and the underlying technology was developed in the USA. But if you posted the whole truth, that does not fit your binary narrative of China good, Russia and the USA bad.

Nothing would make me happier than you dumb Dems being forced to live in China, breathe their air, and have you all swim in their rivers and lakes. That you pick the most polluted country on earth to use as a role model for your green utopia literally is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3048055]Unstoppable Repub Trump is already on track in his 2nd term to surpass the real results he produced in his 1st term when for the first time since Repub Herbert Hoover he left office with fewer jobs in the economy than existed when he took office[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/initial-jobles-claims-plunge-back-near-record-56-year-lows[/URL]

It is amazing that someone in Thailand is telling us about how bad the job market is. This 56 year low does not meet the economy is great. It means it is not bad and that people are staying at their same jobs. Where do you get this crap about jobs being destroyed?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3048055]Trumps tariffs trigger rising rate of job layoffs inside supply chain: ASCM/CNBC survey.[/QUOTE]Of course, it has to be a poll. I love how you Dems thinks estimates are facts and surveys and polls have astounding accuracy. You would think after the last three elections you dumb Dems would have learned how inaccurate your polls are, but no, you keep at it.

And after you Dems started burning up Elon Musk's car dealerships, you do not get to complain about deficits. That guy tried to lower deficits and worked to do so for the taxpayer for free, and all you Dems did was trash and threaten him.

There are a lot of good things coming out of the Trump cabinet domestically. The problem is Trump shooting off his mouth about international affairs distracts from that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048413][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/initial-jobles-claims-plunge-back-near-record-56-year-lows[/URL]

It is amazing that someone in Thailand is telling us about how bad the job market is. This 56 year low does not meet the economy is great. It means it is not bad and that people are staying at their same jobs. [B]Where do you get this crap about jobs being destroyed?[/b]

Of course, it has to be a poll. I love how you Dems thinks estimates are facts and surveys and polls have astounding accuracy. You would think after the last three elections you dumb Dems would have learned how inaccurate your polls are, but no, you keep at it.

And after you Dems started burning up Elon Musk's car dealerships, you do not get to complain about deficits. That guy tried to lower deficits and worked to do so for the taxpayer for free, and all you Dems did was trash and threaten him..[/QUOTE]Posted already. But I'll post it again, no problem:

[B]Layoff announcements top 1.1 million this year, the most since 2020 pandemic, Challenger says.
Dec. 4, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/04/layoff-announcements-this-year-top-1point1-million-the-most-since-2020-when-pandemic-hit-challenger-says.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Challenger, Gray & Christmas said layoff plans totaled 71,321 in November, a step down from the massive cuts announced in October but still enough to bring the 2025 total up to 1.17 million.

The most-cited reason for the month was restructuring, followed by closings and market or economic conditions.

Announced job cuts from U.S. employers moved further ahead of 1 million for the year in November as corporate restructuring, artificial intelligence and [b]tariffs[/b] have helped pare job rolls, consulting firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported Thursday.

The firm said layoff plans totaled 71,321 in November, a step down from the massive cuts announced in October but still enough to bring the 2025 total up to 1.17 million. [B]That total is 54% higher than the same 11-month period a year ago and the highest level since 2020, when the Covid pandemic rocked the global economy.[/b][/QUOTE]And that was only through November of 2025.

Oh, and here's more:

[B]US factory headcount falling despite Trump's promised manufacturing boom.
Jan. 10, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-factory-headcount-falling-despite-trumps-promised-manufacturing-boom-2026-01-09/[/URL]

[QUOTE]U.S. manufacturing jobs [b]continue to decline.[/b]

Unemployment rate falls slightly, but job creation estimates revised lower

Black unemployment rate rises, [b]manufacturing sector loses 70,000 jobs since April.[/b]

WASHINGTON, Jan 9 (Reuters) - U.S. manufacturing jobs in December [b]continued an eight-month skid that began last spring after President Donald Trump rolled out aggressive import taxes that he pledged would lead to a resurgence of blue-collar jobs by reshuffling world trade to favor U.S. workers.[/b]

The reshuffling has certainly occurred, with the U.S. collecting around $30 billion a month in tariff revenue, spread among U.S. consumers, importers, and overseas exporting firms, and as firms first frontloaded goods abroad to stock their shelves with tariff-skirting inventory, then slowed their purchases and brought down U.S. import levels.[/QUOTE]

Today in Davos. Ch, not Taylor Swift nor Bruce Springsteen, but 90 mn show of the ridiculous old senile schizophrene, master of bullshits, claiming fake in front of the world. We have to resist and get rid of this too old crazy dangerous. He should buy ice cream, rather than Greenland.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3048463]Today in Davos. Ch, not Taylor Swift nor Bruce Springsteen, but 90 mn show of the ridiculous old senile schizophrene, master of bullshits, claiming fake in front of the world. We have to resist and get rid of this too old crazy dangerous. He should buy ice cream, rather than Greenland.[/QUOTE]He stood on the world stage and with a tone of grave authority revealed he doesn't know the difference between Greenland, his decades long obsession, and Iceland. He referred to Greenland as Iceland at least 3 times.

Which certainly must lend credence in some dumb Repub hillbillies' minds that he knows what the fuck he is blathering about when he talks about Biden not knowing he was alive and that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen from him. Lolol.

No other country can ever have trust or respect for The United States of America again. Not on a trade deal, not on a peace deal, not on anything. Not even the ones Trump / MAGA would deem "shithole" countries. Even they will now be more trusted and respected than the USA will be post-Trump.

The entire world now knows that the USA is, at most and best, 2-4 years away from 49% of the American electorate installing either a president, a majority in Congress or both with an [B]R[/B] next to their names who will know nothing and do nothing except enact the absolute worst policies for itself and anyone else who is stupid enough to try to ally with it.

Sad days for America. Sad days for the world.

Oh well. We tried.

I can feel it. In my bones. I consulted my tarot cards and did a coupla rounds with the spirits on my ouija board. We're almost there folks. World war 3 is almost upon us. Get ready. Yeah baby, let's watch the world burn!

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3048595]I can feel it. In my bones. I consulted my tarot cards and did a coupla rounds with the spirits on my ouija board. We're almost there folks. World war 3 is almost upon us. Get ready. Yeah baby, let's watch the world burn![/QUOTE]Trump is playing the chaos strategy, so yes it can go very wrong and start somehing he cannot control and stop. There is a thing who cannot be estimated and managed and its the pride of a nation. Its something you can hurt without noticed it and someday it can hurt you in the face. No one seen ww1 and ww2 coming, there was a lost of assumption and theory but when it started it took years and even decades to stop.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3048606]Trump is playing the chaos strategy, so yes it can go very wrong and start somehing he cannot control and stop. There is a thing who cannot be estimated and managed and its the pride of a nation. Its something you can hurt without noticed it and someday it can hurt you in the face. No one seen ww1 and ww2 coming, there was a lost of assumption and theory but when it started it took years and even decades to stop.[/QUOTE]It's early onset of dementia. Can you name any leader or any sane person who acts like he does?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048410]This is a typical stupid binary Spidy post. You take a complicated subject and boil it down to good and bad. China? Good. Obama, Bush, Biden? Good. Trump? Bad. Oil companies? Bad. I know what LCOE is, and you don't. Oh, LCOE is an estimate? Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, what would you use?[/QUOTE]Still don't know what an LCOE is? Here let me remind you once again!

[U]Definition of LCOE:[/U]
[LIST]The levelized cost of electricity/energy (LCOE), is a measure that calculates the average cost of electricity generation over the lifetime of a power plant, taking into account all costs associated with building and operating the plant divided by the total electricity produced. It is used to compare the cost-effectiveness of different energy generation technologies.[/LIST]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048410]And Trump is destroying our future with drill, baby, drill? LOL. Here are two questions that you won't answer. Was there more drilling under Biden or Trump? Did the oil and gas companies make more money under Biden or Trump? Yeah, thank God, you command the facts so well.[/QUOTE]Still failing to grasp the meaning of your own argument from the "shale revolution" to "drill-baby-drill"? Here let me remind you once again!

[U]U.S. Energy Program from Bush to Trump:[/U]

The "shale revolution" was a tremendous and timely "PIVOT", made by President Bush, to bolster [I]U.S. energy security,[/I] [B]in the 2000's has served America very well,[/B] however its diminishing role in an electrified era, won't. The energy program, thrived and excelled under President Obama's "All-of-the-Above" energy strategy, and under President Biden's IRA bill, that sought to develop every available source of American energy, even CSS and DAC. This again was the [B]Dems supporting all forms/b of cleaner energy.[/B].

Then we come to the USA Energy security under your MAGA Fuhrer regime, that basically throws the USA Energy program for clean energy under the bus, and sets American on a path that places China well ahead in this new electrified era.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048410]And another post about China? [/QUOTE][B]Trump Hurting US Auto Manufacturing While Helping China, Pete Buttigieg Says: TDS[/B], January 15,2026 [URL]https://www.thedrive.com/news/trump-hurting-us-auto-manufacturing-while-helping-china-pete-buttigieg-says-tds[/URL].

[B]China Wins as Trump Cedes Leadership of the Global Economy,[/B] January 22,2026 [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/22/business/davos-trump-xi-china.html[/URL].

Your MAGA Fuhrer is doing more for China and Russia, than Xi and Putin (respectively), could have every hoped for.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048410]And Trump is destroying our future with drill, baby, drill? LOL. Here are two questions that you won't answer. Was there more drilling under Biden or Trump? Did the oil and gas companies make more money under Biden or Trump? Yeah, thank God, you command the facts so well.[/QUOTE]It seems to me the [B]"Drill-Baby-Drill"[/B] and "endless fossil fuel growth" zealots, are not yet ready to fully make the "PIVOT", to an electrical era and it is exactly the same kind of hubris, legacy and western automotive manufacturers thought, thinking they could just slap a battery into a any current ICE chassis, and "presto magico" you'd have a EV. And look how that turned out, since the Chinese auto manufacturers began eating their lunch.

So if YOU, like your MAGA Fuhrer, don't think it's yet time to strategically "PIVOT" to electrification, then by all means, keep regaling us with past stories of the former glory of the USA Energy policies. After all it is the MAGA thing to do, right? Especially in the face of a know nothing, do nothing, no nothing zombie MAGA government.

[B]The Quiet Retreat: Why the oil and gas industry is implementing its own decline, even as the IEA resurrects an old growth scenario,[/B] 12 November 2025.
[LIST][i]"Political pressure may be forcing the IEA to revive an old forecast of endless fossil fuel growth, but oil and gas investment reality tells a clearer story of an industry embracing decline.

The recent threat by US Energy Secretary Chris Wright to defund the International Energy Agency (IEA) has achieved its goal: the return of the pro fossil-fuel Current Policies Scenario (CPS) to the agencys flagship reports. (WEO, Nov 12)

For critics of peak demand and the energy transition, this is seen as a victory for data over ideology. In reality, it is the reverse it is a triumph of political gesture over foresight.[/i]

[URL]https://carbontracker.org/the-quiet-retreat-why-the-oil-and-gas-industry-is-implementing-its-own-decline-even-as-the-iea-resurrects-an-old-growth-scenario/[/URL][/LIST]
What's even more funny, about those in denial, is how the decline in gas stations in places like Norway, Sweden, Nepal and China, is that, now [B]ICE owners, are the ones with "range anxiety", LOL[/B]!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048647]It seems to me the "Drill-Baby-Drill"and "endless fossil fuel growth" zealots, are not yet ready to fully make the "PIVOT", to an electrical era and it is exactly the same kind of hubris, legacy and western automotive manufacturers thought, thinking they could just slap a battery into a any current ICE chassis, and "presto magico" you'd have a EV. And look how that turned out, since the Chinese auto manufacturers began eating their lunch.

So if YOU, like your MAGA Fuhrer, don't think it's yet time to strategically "PIVOT" to electrification, then by all means, keep regaling us with past stories of the former glory of the USA Energy policies. After all it is the MAGA thing to do, right?[/QUOTE]LOL. I ask you two questions and you go off on this mental masturbation rant versus just answering them. Fine, I will answer them. The rig count is used to measure driling activity, and it was far higher under Biden then Trump and because oil prices were higher under Biden, the oil companies made a lot more money under Biden.

Of course, I am speaking with a dumb Dem who thinks government policies and not market reality is what drives the energy market.

I remember watching a CNBC show and a commentator said, "I do not want to talk politics but regardless of your politics, Joe Biden is the best friend the oil companies have ever had. " and he was dead right.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048645]Still don't know what an LCOE is? Here let me remind you once again!

Definition of LCOE:

The levelized cost of electricity/energy (LCOE), is a measure that calculates the average cost of electricity generation over the lifetime of a power plant, taking into account all costs associated with building and operating the plant divided by the total electricity produced. It is used to compare the cost-effectiveness of different energy generation technologies.[/QUOTE]Yawn! You still do not understand how energy companies think. I said that Trump made a mistake excluding other nations from developing Venezuelan oil reserves and predicted Exxon, the largest oil company, would balk at being involved in Venezuela, and they have done so. The reason is Exxon was hugely burned when investing in Venezuela and I did not think they were willing to invest there again because of how much they lost / had stolen from them. But there are other oil companies willing to go in.

And this is where your LCOE bullshit falls flat on its face. You can estimate the cost of labor, pipelines, and drilling equipment ETC into a LCOE, but there is no way in hell you can quantify the political risk. In fact, it is that risk why Exxon is staying out and Baker Huges is going in. Baker Hughes beileves Trump will protect their investment, and Exxon is not so sure.

And despite your nonstop diarrhea about politics and energy and your light bulb moment that costs actually factor into energy production, how does LCOE account for political risks / cost? Yeah, you will ignore that question too.

And just stop about Bush and shale or Obama and shale. Bush's solution to our declining oil production was war in Iraq. An oil employee came up with fracking or horizontal drilling and at the price of oil back then, it was finally made profitable to produce. The talk of the time back then was the bullshit concept of peak oil and how we were running out and had to go to war to get oil.

That Bush invaded Iraq was one of the dumbest moves in American foreign policy history. Of course, Biden and the Dems were just as equally bird brained. Instead of building a water and natural gas pipeline to the Western USA from Alaska and solving high energy costs and future droughts, Biden directed money towards Ukraine and building these dumb electrical charging stations in the middle of nowhere. Of course, at least with Ukraine, Biden saved the nation that was #1 for Democrats and their money laundering NGO schemes, so there is that plus for you guys. For the poor consumers and farmers on the West Coast, it was the ultimate middle finger.

I'm old enough to even remember the Cuban missile crisis, and at no point since then and now have I ever felt like we're closer to the end of the world than now. I couldn't be happier. I want to watch the world burn!

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3048633]It's early onset of dementia. Can you name any leader or any sane person who acts like he does?[/QUOTE]Yes, Trump who was re elected, so his behavior was well known and when he tried to fuck capitol and US constitution, is too old, rather senile and a danger when his few neurons have now big problem. Fortunately, Europe resist to his delirium, but I find worrying to see such dangerous in dementia. I wish he won t last for long.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3048750]I'm old enough to even remember the Cuban missile crisis, and at no point since then and now have I ever felt like we're closer to the end of the world than now. I couldn't be happier. I want to watch the world burn![/QUOTE]If you want to die, easy with your free weapons killing so many and children every year.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048732]LOL. I ask you two questions..[/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Uh...let me stop you right there, dude! WTF are you talking about? Please,...is it too much[/NOPARSE] ask, [B]that [u]YOU[/u] stay on topic?[/B].

[NOPARSE] Here's an idea...YOU TELL ME, what the fuck topic of this particular debate, is it, you think you're debating? And I'll let you know if you're even in the debate[/NOPARSE] ballpark!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048733]Yawn! You still do not understand how energy companies think. ...[/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Again...let me stop you right there, dude, as you again demonstrate you have no freakin' idea what LCOE [/NOPARSE]is!

The levelized cost of energy (LCOE), is [U]used to assess the financial viability of [b]NEW (or proposed)[/b] energy projects[/U] by comparing the average cost of electricity generation over the project's lifetime.

Note, the operative words being "NEW" or proposed energy projects, NOT ongoing or current projects in operation.

That's it, no more lessons on LCOE for you [B]....Do your homework[/B] and stop trying to shoot from the hip, like someone drunk on his on MAGA bullshit and nonsense!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3048752]Yes, Trump who was re elected, so his behavior was well known and when he tried to fuck capitol and US constitution, is too old, rather senile and a danger when his few neurons have now big problem. Fortunately, Europe resist to his delirium, but I find worrying to see such dangerous in dementia. I wish he won t last for long.[/QUOTE]After a mother with 3 children, now a 5 yo child, USA fall really crazy under so dangerous and for citizens, Trump. Wake up.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3048824]After a mother with 3 children, now a 5 yo child, USA fall really crazy under so dangerous and for citizens, Trump. Wake up.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s9x030mpAc[/URL]

LCOE is irrelevant for oil. Well, yes, you could look at the cost of generating electricity from fuel oil or diesel. But who does that? Caribbean islands and people who can't rely on their local power grids? If you compare the cost for long haul trucking, marine vessels, planes and the like, the cost of the renewables will look sky high compared to gasoline, diesel and jet fuel. Making green hydrogen isn't cheap.

Another consideration lost in the LCOE debate is that solar and wind can't reliably supply base load electricity. Yes, with batteries, solar may be good for 4 to 6 hours after the sun stops shining. But what do you do for multi-day or seasonal weather events? Or in the early morning hours before the sun's up?

The best solution is to follow the example of Texas. Exploit oil, natural gas, nuclear, solar and wind. The worst is California, where government mandates force renewables down peoples' throats. The California consumer pays over 2 X what Texans pay for electricity.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbZwxEnAFc[/URL]

Well duh, last I checked, oil is still a form of energy and no one said it was irrelevant. But should it be used to generate electricity?

And BTW, oil isn't currently the lowest cost of energy, when looking to build new megawatt projects for the generation of electricity. But should it be considered [I]...sure why not[/I]?

I wonder why when analyzing a country's (or state's) electricity grid, we see it asked or given as an [B]"energy mix"[/B] or different sources of energy that make up their electricity grid. Meaning [NOPARSE]solutions for each country's (or state's) grid, will usually depend on a myriad of things (ie. costs/wealth, politics, resources, geography, land rights, right-of-way, culture, expertise...etc) as to why throughout their grid's history, it is what it is today.

That said, without a doubt, today's solar, wind and batteries are the some of the lowest forms of energy generation and capture. Today, renewables make up the largest portion of the grid (well over 50% and growing), for many countries, rather than that of fossil [/NOPARSE]fuels.

I find crazy senile Trump and his ICE killing anybody, behave in Minneapolis just like Iranian mollahs. USA became a really dangerous country, led by crazy Trump. I m happy not to be American. Fortunately, Europe resist to such crazy all the time bullshiting.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048732]LOL. I ask you two questions and you go off on this mental masturbation rant versus just answering them. Fine, I will answer them.[/QUOTE]LOL! Answers or more bullshit? BTW, I don't doubt for a second, that feeble and frustrated minds, like yours, will view LCOE, as ONE BIG masturbation rant, but that's out of my control and not my problem.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048733]And this is where your LCOE bullshit falls flat on its face...[/QUOTE]Really? 'cause nothing thus far that you've said, quite says ignorance and illiteracy on the subject of LCOE, than you calling it [B]my "LCOE bullshit",[/B] when so many industries, like investment banks, financial advisors, project developers & investors, utility policymakers & planners, government agencies and energy analysts & consultants use LCOE everyday for critical planning and financial decision making.

[U]For Educational Purposes only![/U]

BTW, [NOPARSE]Elvis 2008, view my so called rants, as masturbation all you want to, if that's your thing...LOL! Far be it from me, to judge, what Elvis 2008 loves to view as masturbation ! That Said...

Know this, [/NOPARSE][B]before you continue to embarrass yourself...AGAIN,[/B] with regards to the subject matter of LCOE and understanding what a LCOE is and / or does, perhaps you should take a look at the following 2025 LinkedIn post, from Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF), on the Global Levelized Cost of Electricity (LCOE).

Scroll down to [U]see a BNEF LCOE benchmarks chart,[/U][NOPARSE] of the $ per megawatt hour from 2020 to 2025 on Nat.Gas, Coal, On/Offshore Wind, Fixed/Tracking Solar and Battery [/NOPARSE]Storage.

[B]BNEF - Future of Energy: Global Levelized Cost of Electricity (LCOE), benmarks 2020-2025,[/B] 06 February 2025, [URL]https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bloombergnef_renewables-wef26-bloomberghouse-activity-7420452042361458688-djFn[/URL] -OR- [URL]https://uk.linkedin.com/showcase/bloombergnef/?trk=public_post-text[/URL]

So hopefully you don't embarrass yourself to much, but if you prefer masturbating viewpoints, to my so called LCOE rants, then knock yourself out! Here is another report on LCOE for the UK's 28 DFIF countries.

[B]BNEF has examined levelized costs of electricity (LCOE) for major generation technologies across DFIDs 28 priority countries,[/B] 15 November 2015, [URL]https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/57a0897b40f0b652dd00023e/61646_Levelised-Cost-of-Electricity.pdf[/URL].

Please remember, that while I'm providing LCOE information, [U]it is purely for educational purposes ONLY![/U] I can't control how people choose to use [B](or view it as masturbation, of)[/B] the information!

Life is too damn long if you ask me. Anybody who's dead now are the lucky ones cause they don't have to experience the travesty that is day to day life *sigh*.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3048531]He stood on the world stage and with a tone of grave authority revealed he doesn't know the difference between Greenland, his decades long obsession, and Iceland. He referred to Greenland as Iceland at least 3 times.

Which certainly must lend credence in some dumb Repub hillbillies' minds that he knows what the fuck he is blathering about when he talks about Biden not knowing he was alive and that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen from him. Lolol.

No other country can ever have trust or respect for The United States of America again. Not on a trade deal, not on a peace deal, not on anything. Not even the ones Trump / MAGA would deem "shithole" countries. Even they will now be more trusted and respected than the USA will be post-Trump.

The entire world now knows that the USA is, at most and best, 2-4 years away from 49% of the American electorate installing either a president, a majority in Congress or both with an [B]R[/B] next to their names who will know nothing and do nothing except enact the absolute worst policies for itself and anyone else who is stupid enough to try to ally with it..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/01/equal-representation-should-mean-equal-representation-for-american-citizens/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048805]Again...let me stop you right there, dude, as you again demonstrate you have no freakin' idea what LCOE is![/QUOTE]Man, you really do have outmeal for brains. You think I don't know about cost when it comes to opening a business? You make it sound like you have discovered the fountain of youth when you are talking about something I would blast a college freshman business major for not knowing. That you think that estimated cost is all that matters in a business tell me that you have never opened a business before.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048805]That's it, no more lessons on LCOE for you ...Do your homework and stop trying to shoot from the hip, like someone drunk on his on MAGA bullshit and nonsense![/QUOTE]This kills me too. That you think who you vote for is a sign of intelligence shows me how much you are lacking it. Hey, dummy, you voted for the guy with actual dementia and stage 4 prostate cancer once, and the only reason you did not vote for him a second time is that he was not on the ballot. Even after the disasterous debate that Biden lost, you would have voted for him. And you wear your voting as a sign of intelligence?

And you think you are educating anyone when you say the same thing again and again? LOL. You have had three people give you example after example of when LCOE estimates are off and you are so fucking cocky that you think they are nowhere near as bright as you.

You don't think that stupid California train to nowhere did not have a cost report or business plan? What the hell happened? According to you, all that matters is you calculate cost and the money rolls in. All you have demonstrated is you do not know jack about business.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049019]LOL! Answers or more bullshit? BTW, I don't doubt for a second, that feeble and frustrated minds, like yours, will view LCOE, as ONE BIG masturbation rant, but that's out of my control and not my problem.[/QUOTE]My questions involved your accusation of how damaging Trump was with his drill, baby, drill policy. I pointed out that drilling happened more under Biden than Trump and that oil comanies made more under Biden than Trump, and you go hide under you LCOE bullshit line like a child hides under a mother's skirt.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049019]Really? 'cause nothing thus far that you've said, quite says ignorance and illiteracy on the subject of LCOE, than you calling it [B]my "LCOE bullshit",[/B] when so many industries, like investment banks, financial advisors, project developers & investors, utility policymakers & planners, government agencies and energy analysts & consultants use LCOE everyday for critical planning and financial decision making.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they use an estimate as it should be used. You make LCOE into a hardened fact that should dominate all policy decisions moving forward. Of course, like Tooms, you are dictating policy while living on a foreign beach. Your entire case that estimated costs LCOE are all that should matter with future energy production has fallen on its face once again.

In the real world, alternative energy has failed again when needed most, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/post-winter-storm-deep-freeze-pushes-power-grids-brink-feds-move-avert-blackouts[/URL].

Golf clap for fossil fuels saving the grid from collapse. It wasn't solar or wind. It was oil and natural gas.

Meantime in New England and Boston oil. Yes OIL. Is a stunning 39% of electricity production.

Never, ever seen this high.

Next day power costs (on the left) are super high as well.

300 miles from one of the largest nat gas fields in the world and burning. Oil.

Weird.

It is funny how we fossil fuel loving red Republicans keep saving the asses of you blue state fools. As has been pointed out to you a million times, there are places solar and wind make sense and places that it does not, and New England is one place it does not. You have that huge natural gas field in Pennsylvania, and the obvious source of cheap electricity and New England and the libs who run it tried to go with solar and wind. LOL. That fell on its face with this winter storm and they had to go back to oil and wood. Unfuckingreal.

Why is everybody else getting 'iced' but I'm still alive free to walk around? I want a free trip to the morgue too. I'm old, I'm tired and my life is shit. And I don't have the guts to unlife myself yet, so how come other fuckers out there are the lucky ones? Its like those rich idiot Swiss young people setting themselves on fire in some weird night club instead of going to ski. Nothing makes sense anymore in this world of AI and no one believing anything and not trusting anyone.

Before you know it, somebody'll say it snowed like 2 feet yesterday. Yeah right. I call BS on that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3049149]And you think you are educating anyone when you say the same thing again and again? LOL. You have had three people give you example after example of when LCOE estimates are off and you are so fucking cocky that you think they are nowhere near as bright as you.[/QUOTE]Despite the dumbass comments on wind turbines by the senile foul-mouth MAGA Fuhrer, at the WC Forum (and similar anti-wind turbine sentiments from ISG-MAGA acolytes), the EU (Britain, Germany, Denmark Norway, Netherlands and other European countries) [NOPARSE]announced they will be signing an agreement to jointly install 100GW of offshore wind turbines, and 20GW by the year 2030, in large scale joint projects.

This agreement will solidify and renews past commitments, to wean themselves off their reliance on Russian gas by 2028 and U.S. gas beyond [/NOPARSE]that. [B]The United Kingdom and Eight European Countries Partner to Build 100GW of Offshore Wind,[/B] January 26,2026. [URL]https://energynews.pro/en/the-united-kingdom-and-eight-european-countries-partner-to-build-100-gw-of-offshore-wind/[/URL]

[QUOTE]According to a separate report, indicates British consumers have enjoyed [b]savings of $1.9 billion (1.6 billion) from the nine existing undersea cables linking the UK to Europe since 2023.[/b][/QUOTE]That's a [I][b]pretty big commitment and billion dollar savings for intermittent power,[/b][/I] for [NOPARSE]100GW offshore wind turbines built and installed jointly, 20GW by 2030 and 300GW by 2050 [/NOPARSE][I]...hmmmm,[/I] I wonder if they checked if, [U]a LCOE "baseload"[/U] was even considered?

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3049291]Why is everybody else getting 'iced' but I'm still alive free to walk around? I want a free trip to the morgue too. I'm old, I'm tired and my life is shit. And I don't have the guts to unlife myself yet, so how come other fuckers out there are the lucky ones? Its like those rich idiot Swiss young people setting themselves on fire in some weird night club instead of going to ski. Nothing makes sense anymore in this world of AI and no one believing anything and not trusting anyone.

Before you know it, somebody'll say it snowed like 2 feet yesterday. Yeah right. I call BS on that.[/QUOTE]Wear a shirt with a trans flag on it, with a medical blue face mask, platform shoes with a skirt, hold a big cardboard with some lgbt slogan again ice and maga with some socilalist measure as suggestion written on it like 'Not MAGA, But LFSFT: Let Freespeech FUCK TRUMP! Save my medicare and my gendre transition plan!' and when they come to talk to you you speak to them in a foreign langage then you pull out you cellphone from your pocket very fast and begin to film them while continuing to talk loud in a foreign langage. You should meet your god soon after that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3049224]In the real world, alternative energy has failed again when needed most, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/post-winter-storm-deep-freeze-pushes-power-grids-brink-feds-move-avert-blackouts[/URL].

Golf clap for fossil fuels saving the grid from collapse. It wasn't solar or wind. It was oil and natural gas.

Meantime in New England and Boston oil. Yes OIL. Is a stunning 39% of electricity production. ...

You have that huge natural gas field in Pennsylvania, and the obvious source of cheap electricity and New England and the libs who run it tried to go with solar and wind. LOL. That fell on its face with this winter storm and they had to go back to oil and wood. Unfuckingreal.[/QUOTE]It's always so freakin' hilarious, how you and the fossil fuel fool that wrote the article, always somehow end up blaming renewables, wind and solar, for every electrical failure, one weather disaster after another. LOL! I'm still laughing at the Texas fools, that were blaming wind turbines, for they own ineptitude and lack of preparedness, in the 2021 winter storm. [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/19/politics/texas-energy-outage-wind-turbine-blame-green-energy-fact-check[/URL]

And what's even funnier, is that, neither you nor he, can do basic 5th grade math. Meaning, when fossil fuels supply the bulk or 60% of [I]U.S. National grid's power,[/I] how the freakin' hell can you squarely blame renewables (solar and wind), that only supply 15% the power to the electrical grid, with the short comings and failures of the recent winter storm?

Do the math and any half-witted 5th grade student, will tell you, if there is blame, that fossils fuels deserves most of the bulk, or majority of the blame. But as I suspect, most gullible MAGAs may have failed 5th grade math.

But dude, don't get it twisted! Unlike you, I won't blame fossil fuels, as the consensus is reporting that, the blame and failures, lay squarely on, downed, frozen and outted power lines and not having a more resilient, robust and balanced electrical grid system.

[B]Winter storm tests US electric grid as outages spread[/B], January 26,2025. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/25/winter-storm-electric-grid-overdrive-00745690?[/URL] [B]Winter Storms Are Straining the U.S. Electric Grid[/B] January 26,2025. [URL]https://nzero.com/blog/winter-storms-are-straining-the-u-s-electric-grid/[/URL]

But by all means, blame 15% solar and wind, if it makes you and your MAGA Fuhrer, feel better about the inept administration's handling of the winters storms and his cancellation of wind farms, that would provide additional clean power.

So MAGA, rather than playing the blame game, perhaps you should for once, try "administrating" and "governing", thereby, fixing the real problems with the [I]U.S.electrical grid?[/I]

*sigh*, people who want to live, die. And people like me that want to die, still somehow continue to live. Jeezum crow.

Christ on a stick.

Well, I'm super old anyway, just a matter of time.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eitefl3Tq7s[/URL]

We're closer than ever to nuclear annihilation. But come on! From the cuban Missile Crisis to everything in between, how many times have we been close? I'll believe it when I feel the heat and I'm burnt to a crisp. Ha! I wish I was dead. Well, more like I was never born. *sigh* My life sucks. Won't any supernatural being give me tons of money for my soul?

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3049456]Wear a shirt with a trans flag on it, with a medical blue face mask, platform shoes with a skirt, hold a big cardboard with some lgbt slogan again ice and maga with some socilalist measure as suggestion written on it like 'Not MAGA, But LFSFT: Let Freespeech FUCK TRUMP! Save my medicare and my gendre transition plan!' and when they come to talk to you you speak to them in a foreign langage then you pull out you cellphone from your pocket very fast and begin to film them while continuing to talk loud in a foreign langage. You should meet your god soon after that.[/QUOTE]As senile as Trump, and bullshiting here many times, like crazy orange all over the world, but not able to use a free weapon and put in his mouth. I'm fully sure mother and her 3 children would like she still lives to take care of them. Shame on Trump and ICE, behaving like in Iran.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049339]Despite the dumbass comments on wind turbines by the senile foul-mouth MAGA Fuhrer, at the WC Forum (and similar anti-wind turbine sentiments from ISG-MAGA acolytes), the EU (Britain, Germany, Denmark Norway, Netherlands and other European countries) announced they will be signing an agreement to jointly install 100GW of offshore wind turbines, and 20GW by the year 2030, in large scale joint projects.[/QUOTE]How those solar panels work when covered up by 6 feet of snow? How those windmills churning when their blades are frozen solid? Show me where in the LOC formula where climate is covered. Or are you just once again spouting off a number without knowing what is behind the calculation? Is this climate change all over again?

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/german-chancellor-merz-admits-shutting-down-nuclear-energy-production-was-severe-strategic[/URL]

And while you are praising Europe for going green, they are running the other way going back to natural gas and saying shutting down nuclear was a mistake.

Yeah, the LCOE is going to look real good for solar and wind after natural gas prices went through the roof. [URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas[/URL]

As for why we still need coal there is this: Coal plants carried weeks — sometimes months — of fuel on site. That fuel was already purchased, already delivered, and already insulated from real-time weather events. Coal did not compete with residential heating demand. It did not depend on pipeline pressure, compressor stations, or wellhead performance. When the temperature dropped, coal plants did not enter a bidding war with homeowners for survival. They simply ran.

That mattered because coal often sat at or near the margin during winter peaks. And when coal is the marginal fuel, prices behave differently. They move modestly. They reflect cost, not fear. They do not explode because of perceived scarcity three states away.

Contrast that with today's system. Natural gas now sets the price in much of the country. Gas does not need to fail to become expensive; it only needs to be stressed. Cold weather alone is enough. Add pipeline congestion, freeze-offs, or even the risk of nonperformance, and markets immediately inject a scarcity premium. Wholesale electric prices spike — even if every generator shows up and no emergency is declared.

It is worth asking a simple, uncomfortable question: If coal still dominated the electric grid the way it once did, would this cold snap even matter?

From a consumer perspective, the answer is largely no.

So yeah, solar and wind may be cheaper but they fail just when you need them most whereas coal is reliable and does not stick the consumer with massive price shocks when winter storms roll in. The batteries used with solar and wind are depleted in no time. Coal stores energy better than anything in freezing cold weather.

In Texas which produces more alternative energy than anywhere, and a cold snap will be a few days. It makes sense there. When you start talking the northern USA, this weather can last for months!

Man, I am so seek of you and Tooms lecture what Americans should do from abroad. You should have been stuck in the Northern USA going without power or paying electrical bills through the nose like everyone else. But you do not practice what you preach!

Come on already!

As the despicable and barbarian MAGA Fuhrer's Gestapo Brownshirts (ICE), [I][b]murder and gun-down Americans citizens and civilians in cold blood,[/b][/I] the shit-show complicit MAGA admin, once again dips, drives and delves into its Orwellian bag of tricks and lies, as they tell Americans, not to believe what your eyes are telling you, in the peaceful protesting deaths of two (2) USA Citizens Renee Good and Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

[B]For Trump, the Truth in Minneapolis Is What He Says It Is,[/B] January 25th, 2025, [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/25/us/politics/trump-truth-minneapolis-shootings.html[/URL].

[QUOTE]Twice since the start of the year, federal officers have gunned down protesters in Minneapolis with cellphone cameras rolling, and twice President Trump and his lieutenants have rushed forward with a message to the American people: Dont believe what you see with your own eyes.[/QUOTE]So as the MAGA Fuhrer, tells America, to deny what they're seeing and continues to treat Americans, like he's talking to his gullible MAGA base, even as bystander video evidence makes it very clear, for all to see (for those without MAGA rose colored glasses), that he and his corrupt MAGA admin are telling more lies, once again.

Welcome to the MAGA Fuhrer Orwellian era!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3049558]As senile as Trump, and bullshiting here many times, like crazy orange all over the world, but not able to use a free weapon and put in his mouth. I'm fully sure mother and her 3 children would like she still lives to take care of them. Shame on Trump and ICE, behaving like in Iran.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/multiple-polls-show-majority-americans-want-all-illegals-deported[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3049638]Come on already![/QUOTE]You have nothing to hope in your life? Beautiful girls to fuck with a not mini dick, or sports, or else, when I dream to free ride my fall then die spots, or bicycle climb my legendary mountains. I wish in not too long, to have full time to perform them. Still so many dreams to live for real, as long I will be able.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3049638]Come on already![/QUOTE]It never happened!

Shocker. Trump's record high increase in American Consumer Taxes is producing the opposite result of what he said it would do.

Man, he really has those foreign importers on the run, now! LOL. Remember when I said every other world leader would be champing at the bit to get a seat opposite numbskull Trump at any negotiation table anywhere at anytime? Lolol.

[B]Trade balance soared 94% in November and was higher than a year ago[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/29/trade-balance-soared-94percent-in-november-and-was-higher-than-a-year-ago-despite-tariff-efforts.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The U.S. deficit with its global trading partners nearly doubled in November as the shortfall with the European Union swelled.

Following a month where the trade deficit hit its lowest level since early 2009, it shot up to $56.8 billion, an increase of 94.6% from October.
...........
On a year-over-year basis, the deficit through November stood at $839.5 billion, or about[b] 4% higher than the same period in 2024.[/b]

The increase in the deficit counters Trumps efforts to use tariffs to reduce imbalances around the globe. When announcing so-called reciprocal tariffs in April 2025, the White House used the level of trade deficits with varying countries as a baseline for determining the duties.[/QUOTE]They're loving it; Trump declares an "EMERGENCY!" as his lamebrain reason to increase American Consumer Taxes and, consequently, the price of goods the American Consumers want and sometimes must buy, Americans pay those increased prices, and the foreign importers still manage to eat America's lunch on trade even more than before Trump pulled more money out of Americans' pockets for those goods.

Further confirmation that the last people you should call for aid at a time of EMERGENCY is anyone from the Republican Party but most especially any one of them named or associated with Trump.

Add this to The Economy, National Security, Immigration, Infrastructure, Inflation Reduction, Energy Efficiency, Computer Chips, Science, Bi-Partisan Legislation and keeping the USA Government Open and Functioning to the long list of important economic and national security metrics that Joe Biden and his Vice President understood better and produced better results on than anything blithering blathering cognitively impaired Donald Trump ever has, ever will or ever could.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3049586]How those solar panels work when covered up by 6 feet of snow? How those windmills churning when their blades are frozen solid? Show me where in the LOC formula where climate is covered. Or are you just once again spouting off a number without knowing what is behind the calculation? Is this climate change all over again? [/QUOTE][I]Duh! ...[/I]everyone knows, that output drops when snow covers a solar panel, and smart operators should naturally plan for it. But as petrol-heads insistently drown on about the failures of solar and wind, perhaps they should, they should why oil and gas output have also dropped in the 2026 frigid winter cold snap?

[QUOTE][b]US energy sector braces for winter storm as crude and natural gas output fall[/b] Jan 24th, 2026. U.S. crude output is set to slip as the [b]cold snap and stormy conditions push operators to shut in production in key basins,[/b] according to state regulators and analysts. That could lead to a total loss of around 300,000 barrels per day, said Energy Aspects, adding that the production outage could climb further.

[u]The storm could cut 86 billion cubic feet of natural gas production over the next two weeks,[/u] Energy Aspects said, noting that the Appalachia region could lose 35 bcf of output.

[url]https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-energy-sector-braces-winter-storm-crude-natural-gas-output-fall-2026-01-23/[/url][/QUOTE]Tell me again, how will a [I]U.S. grid,[/I] that runs 60% on fossil fuels, is going to power itself on fossil fuels going forward, when it can even get passed a winter storm, where production levels of oil and gas drastically drop off during a storm?

[U]5th Grade Maths:[/U]

However, it seems you still can't do basic 5th grade math, from my last post? Well here allow me to help with your 5th grade math assignment, I left with you.

60 is bigger than 15. [NOPARSE]In fact it is exactly 4x times bigger. So when the USA Electricity grid is powered by 60% fossil fuels, and only 15% solar and wind, it's only far that when the grid fails, fossil fuels should shoulders 4x times the [/NOPARSE]blame.

Remember though, the real blame (like Texas 2021), in this 2026 winter storm, comes down to poor grid management, downed lines and insufficient preparedness, resulting in grid failure.

[B]PS:[/B] By contrast, there was an abundance of wind generation as the storm rips through parts of New Mexico and Oklahoma.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3049586]How those solar panels work when covered up by 6 feet of snow? How those windmills churning when their blades are frozen solid? Show me where in the LOC formula where climate is covered. Or are you just once again spouting off a number without knowing what is behind the calculation? Is this climate change all over again?

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/german-chancellor-merz-admits-shutting-down-nuclear-energy-production-was-severe-strategic[/URL]

And while you are praising Europe for going green, they are running the other way going back to natural gas and saying shutting down nuclear was a mistake.

Yeah, the LCOE is going to look real good for solar and wind after natural gas prices went through the roof. [URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas[/URL]

As for why we still need coal there is this: Coal plants carried weeks sometimes months of fuel on site. That fuel was already purchased, already delivered, and already insulated from real-time weather events. Coal did not compete with residential heating demand. It did not depend on pipeline pressure, compressor stations, or wellhead performance. When the temperature dropped, coal plants did not enter a bidding war with homeowners for survival. They simply ran.

That mattered because coal often sat at or near the margin during winter peaks. And when coal is the marginal fuel, prices behave differently. They move modestly. They reflect cost, not fear. They do not explode because of perceived scarcity three states away.

Contrast that with today's system. Natural gas now sets the price in much of the country. Gas does not need to fail to become expensive; it only needs to be stressed. Cold weather alone is enough. Add pipeline congestion, freeze-offs, or even the risk of nonperformance, and markets immediately inject a scarcity premium. Wholesale electric prices spike even if every generator shows up and no emergency is declared.

It is worth asking a simple, uncomfortable question: If coal still dominated the electric grid the way it once did, would this cold snap even matter?

From a consumer perspective, the answer is largely no.

So yeah, solar and wind may be cheaper but they fail just when you need them most whereas coal is reliable and does not stick the consumer with massive price shocks when winter storms roll in. The batteries used with solar and wind are depleted in no time. Coal stores energy better than anything in freezing cold weather.

In Texas which produces more alternative energy than anywhere, and a cold snap will be a few days. It makes sense there. When you start talking the northern USA, this weather can last for months!

Man, I am so seek of you and Tooms lecture what Americans should do from abroad. You should have been stuck in the Northern USA going without power or paying electrical bills through the nose like everyone else. But you do not practice what you preach![/QUOTE]Just do what usa is good to do, do business. You have Quebec next to your north-eastern border, massively invest in their dam, they are buidling dam under the water now. They are building thousands of them and they are almost impossible to detect without advanced satelite technology. Ask them to give you acces to plant some military base to defend your asset and offer them the deal of the millenium. A long term contract of like a cantury in which they will get richer then any oil producer and on your side do your are doing money by selling it back to amarican citizen and to the south american country. They have like 50% of their land covered of river and lake, its enough to produce enrgy for the whole world. In less then 50 years you could had all the american continent supplied with green energy who could charge your electric vehicule and heat your house. The air pollution would drop so fast, the continent air quality would be back to what it was when you was hunting bison and fighting the native. This is how you can make the place new and different, the current generation are sick of pollution, do something cleaner then every where and you are back on top for the rest of the 21th century.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050008]Just do what usa is good to do, do business. You have Quebec next to your north-eastern border, massively invest in their dam..[/QUOTE]The only thing I can verify, is that, yes indeed, Quebec is a province on the American northeastern boarders. As for the rest of the post, I'll let Elvis 2008, decipher that!

The other point of contention, is that although Quebec, has in the past, been a major supplier of clean electricity to the [I]U.S. Northeast[/I], it appears to be having, its own domestic supply issues.

[B]Why Quebec struck a new hydro deal with Newfoundland and Labrador[/B], December 13,2025, [URL]https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/hydro-quebec-newfoundland-churchill-deal-1.7409673[/URL]

Currently, Quebec is negotiating to import power from Newfoundland and Labrador, and to be able to meet contractual obligations with the [I]U.S.[/I], as it looks to shore up it own supply, because its own electricity demands are growing faster than its current supply can meet, especially during peak periods.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3049780]It never happened![/QUOTE]Nothing so sure with crazy like Trump or Putin. Fortunately, Netanyahou doesn't have enough power, when war is his business. Americans who miss real democracy should look what happened in Romania on Autumn 1989.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3050341]The only thing I can verify, is that, yes indeed, Quebec is a province on the American northeastern boarders. As for the rest of the post, I'll let Elvis 2008, decipher that!

The other point of contention, is that although Quebec, has in the past, been a major supplier of clean electricity to the [I]U.S. Northeast[/I], it appears to be having, its own domestic supply issues.

[B]Why Quebec struck a new hydro deal with Newfoundland and Labrador[/B], December 13,2025, [URL]https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/hydro-quebec-newfoundland-churchill-deal-1.7409673[/URL]

Currently, Quebec is negotiating to import power from Newfoundland and Labrador, and to be able to meet contractual obligations with the [I]U.S.[/I], as it looks to shore up it own supply, because its own electricity demands are growing faster than its current supply can meet, especially during peak periods.[/QUOTE]Trump madness and chaotic governance pushed them to stop their investment in dam construction targeting the amercican market I suppose. That why they signed contract who are keep the domstic consumption in priority and exportation in 2nd.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3049638]Come on already![/QUOTE]Get on a plane already and visit a DEI "doctor" in Brasilia LOLOL.

[URL]https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-02-02/brazil-shocked-to-find-that-13000-students-about-to-graduate-from-medical-school-lack-basic-knowledge-to-practice-medicine.html[/URL]

Nao obrigado.

Just another reason to avoid that God forsaken shithole at all costs.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3048824]After a mother with 3 children, now a 5 yo child, USA fall really crazy under so dangerous and for citizens, Trump. Wake up.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKhUOvlv_I[/URL]

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050538]Trump madness and chaotic governance pushed them to stop their investment in dam construction targeting the American market I suppose. That why they signed contract who are keep the domstic consumption in priority and exportation in 2nd.[/QUOTE]The problem with this TDS madness is that it gets blamed for everything. Yeah, Bennie, when I looked into Canada and their hydroelectric potential, it was great. Then you look at real estate prices, immigrants surging, crime rates in Canada, the political leadership, and especially the shit Ottawa pulled with the Covid trucker's strike, and I would not want to put a penny into Canada right now.

I grew up near Canada and I considered Canadians and Americans interchangeable. Even when W Bush came into power, and one USD would buy $1. 50 Canadian, I thought Canada was greatly undervalued. They balanced their budget, were not fighting stupid wars, and even provided free / national healthcare. Their cities were crime free models many American cities that many American city wanted to emulate. And ten years, the Canadian and American dollar were equal in value.

But Canada cow towed to their women who were no longer having kids, and Canada tried to fix their population problem with immigration and unlike the USA (well, unlike the USA except under Biden) they let in so many immigrants they lost their culture. Housing prices skyrocketed, crime rates soared, and the Canadian culture IMO is dead replaced by a version of liberalism that would make California blush.

In 2001, Canada was nirvana for the monger. Lap dances were $14 not $20, and the escorts were beautiful, plentiful, and legal. Now we are at one USA dollar buying $1. 37 Canadian and I think the USA dollar is undervalued. The nanny state is so strong there that Americans with one DWI are not let into the country. If you invest in Canada, you often cannot get your money out. The hostility towards the USA, even before Trump, is unreal.

The notion that Mexico is dangerous and Canada is safe has IMO been tossed on its head and given how much cheaper Mexico is, I would rather put money to work in Mexico, and it is not even close. In fact, the average Mexican worker is outperforming his Canadian counterpart. The ratio of USA dollars to Canadian would have to hit 2:1 before it would interest me.

And why would I put money into an area that is subject to the whims of pols? Hell, the keystone pipeline was this red-blue jerk around with Warren Buffett the Dems biggest antagonist. I cannot even imagine investing in dams and power lines in crazy Canada and the brain dead blue regions in the Northeastern USA. I drive throughout West Texas, and there could be a 100 X more windmills than the huge amounts they have right now. The issue is not building the wind mills but the power lines to get the energy to market. Even in the huge Permian field, there was an issue with getting oil and gas to market from there, and electricity is even more constrained than oil and gas.

And Spidy is a symptom of the liberal left and their lunacy on energy generation. He did not back off one iota when the cold spells left so many people without power when they needed it most. The liberal idiots attacked coal in the USA while China and India were constructing huge coal burning plants. Even today, Spidy is advocating Europe and its green energy policies. Look at what happened in Germany with nuclear: [URL]https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Germany/nuclear_power_generation/[/URL].

And to meet their mandated carbon reductions, Germany imported massive amounts of natural gas from Putin. For all the Dems and their liberal bullshit talk about Putin, it was their idiotic energy policies that enriched Putin.

So yeah, in theory, Canadian hydroelectric could be a great solution to meet the surging demand for electricity, and kudos to you for bring up a subject I did not know about, but I would not touch it given the political reality.

Repub Trump is already the only so-called president since Repub Hoover, almost a hundred years ago, to leave office with fewer jobs in the USA economy than when he started his term. Now he very well might become the only so-called president to TWICE leave office in TWO separate terms with fewer jobs in the USA economy than when he started. Wow.

[B]Private payrolls rose by just 22,000, far short of expectations, ADP says[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/04/adp-jobs-report-january-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The U.S. labor market barely budged in January, with hiring below even muted expectations, according to a report Wednesday from payrolls processing firm ADP.

Private companies added just 22,000 positions for the month and [b]the number would have been negative had it not been for a surge of 74,000 hires in the education and health services category. The total was less than the downwardly revised 37,000 increase in December and below the Dow Jones consensus forecast for 45,000.[/b][/QUOTE]You MAGAs really know how to pick them! Lolol.

I wonder if Trump will also outdo himself on the issue of Mass Murder of Americans this 2nd time around. I suppose it will all depend on how much of a distraction from the 38,000 mentions of him in the Epstein Files he calculates another Trump's Pandemic might provide. Due to the disastrous decisions he made in his first term, his Mass Murder victim count for Americans alone has so far numbered over 1 million. Then there were millions more Trump Mass Murder victims around the world.

The Worst Jobs Creation numbers AND the Most Mass Murder Victims numbers all in one presidency is, uh, quite a feat, even for a Repub.

Well, that's what those dumb Repub MAGA hillbillies voted for in an election that was clinched for them by that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL]

Nope. No wild coincidence. No witch's curse. No bad luck for Repubs. No weird economic or business cycle that only favors Dems and punishes Repubs.

Nope.

It's crap Repub economic policies and stewardship. Every time. For about 100 years.

And, sure enough, there's that ol" reliable and utterly predictable Worst Since a Previous Repub Economic Disaster designation!

[B]Layoffs in January were the highest to start a year since 2009, Challenger says[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/05/layoff-and-hiring-announcements-hit-their-worst-january-levels-since-2009-challenger-says.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]U.S. employers announced 108,435 layoffs for the month, [B]up 118% from the same period a year ago and 205% from December 2025. The total marked the highest for any January since 2009.[/B]

At the same time, companies announced[B] just 5,306 new hires, also the lowest January since 2009, which is when Challenger, Gray & Christmas began tracking such data.[/b][/QUOTE]MAGAs and that decisive tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, sure FAFO real good this time.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL]

After 16 years of thinking and thinking and thinking about it, this is the best TrumpRepub alternative to Obamacare that Trump and his Repubs have come up with.

I mean, other than the classic Repub concept of a healthcare plan for America; If you get sick, get a lot sicker quickly and die soon.

[B]Millions may drop ACA coverage and raise health insurance costs for everyone else[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/04/millions-may-drop-aca-coverage-and-raise-health-costs-for-everyone-else.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Enhanced premium subsidies for consumers who buy health insurance on the Affordable Care Act marketplace expired at the end of 2025.

About 22 million people received those enhanced premium tax credits last year.

Their premiums more than doubled, on average, in 2026 due to the lapse, according to KFF.

[B]Millions of people are expected to drop their coverage amid soaring costs, which will likely raise premiums for everyone who remains, experts said.[/b]

Some experts warn of a potential death spiral in the ACA market if millions of young, healthy people drop their coverage.[/QUOTE]Yes, those subsidies were supposed to be temporary. But that was when it was reasonably assumed the economic damage to American jobs and incomes from Trump's Pandemic would be fully recovered by Biden-Harris and the Dems in Congress. And, sure enough, it was recovered faster and stronger in America than anywhere else on the Planet; The Envy of the World Economy by November 2024.

However, since Repub Donald Trump became president again, well, we're heading back to the same or worse economic conditions Trump produced that triggered the need for those subsidies and back to the disastrous economic conditions Repub GW Bush produced to trigger the desperate need for Obamacare in the first place.

No more Envy of the World Economy now.

Consequently, this was a particularly bad time to eliminate those subsidies.

Oh well. We tried.

Thank you for your vote:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL]

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050538]Trump madness and chaotic governance pushed them to stop their investment in dam construction targeting the amercican market I suppose. That why they signed contract who are keep the domstic consumption in priority and exportation in 2nd.[/QUOTE]I still have no idea, what investment Quebec dams, you're talking about? Whether they be newly planned, in construction or either being developed, [NOPARSE]please provide the news article and/or link to the information, to which you're referring to?

The last Quebec dam build, planned or developed (that I know of), was the Romaine-4 hydroelectric plant (which is part of the La Romaine complex in Quebec), which finished in 2023, long before the MAGA Fuhrer's 2nd term chaos.

And despite, Elvis 2008's, wrongheaded and nonsensical rant on Canada, the U.S. is desperate and would love to have Canadian hydro power (and other resources). Empathizes on "desperate", as the MAGA Fuhrer, would love to make Canada the 51st [/NOPARSE]state.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710]The problem with this TDS madness is that it gets blamed for everything. [/QUOTE]Yeah, and yet you MAGAs, as gullible as you are, still I bet, wonder where the infamous quote, [I]"Everything thing Trump touches turns to shit!"[/I] comes from? LOL!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710]Yeah, Bennie, when I looked into Canada and their hydroelectric potential, it was great. Then you look at real estate prices, immigrants surging, crime rates in Canada, the political leadership, and especially the shit Ottawa pulled with the Covid trucker's strike, and I would not want to put a penny into Canada right now.

I grew up near Canada and I considered Canadians and Americans interchangeable.[/QUOTE]What utter garbage on Canada! Immigration maybe higher, but not viewed in the same way, as the current shit-show MAGA admin. Also pretty sure, while Americans and Canadians, consider themselves neighboring border cousins (for lack of a better term), the use of the world [I][b]"interchangeable"[/b][/I] to describe us, is morally just all kinds of wrong!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710]I cannot even imagine investing in dams and power lines in crazy Canada and the brain dead blue regions in the Northeastern USA. I drive throughout West Texas, and there could be a 100 X more windmills than the huge amounts they have right now.

So yeah, in theory, Canadian hydroelectric could be a great solution to meet the surging demand for electricity, and kudos to you for bring up a subject I did not know about, but I would not touch it given the political reality.[/QUOTE]Apart from the current long standing PPA contracts, that the northeast corridor of states have with Quebec (or Ontario), do you even know what the fuck, new Quebec dam investments Bennie is talking about? Or should I just assume, [I]this is your "womanly" period of the mouth, but for you, it's "foot-in-mouth" disease[/I]?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710] The issue is not building the wind mills but the power lines to get the energy to market. Even in the huge Permian field, there was an issue with getting oil and gas to market from there, and electricity is even more constrained than oil and gas.[/QUOTE][I]Glad you finally wised up,[/I] to what I've been telling you all along about the electricity struggles and poor stewardship of the grid, during the winter storm, rather then the usual MAGA blame of solar and wind. See here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=3049863&viewfull=1#post3049863[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710]And Spidy is a symptom of the liberal left and their lunacy on energy generation. He did not back off one iota when the cold spells left so many people without power when they needed it most. The liberal idiots attacked coal in the USA while China and India were constructing huge coal burning plants. [/QUOTE]Nah, the "liberal idiots" verbally attack, the continued use of coal, equally, wherever it's happening, while promoting and fostering cooperative relationships for cleaner, fossil-free solutions. Unlike like the smarmy petrostate hypocrites, that plunder, rape and pillage other countries for their fossil fuels, in the name "drug trafficking" and "national security", while at the same time criticize China and India, for their air-pollution and using coal, as they make great efforts to transition away from fossil fuels, while they DO NOT.

[QUOTE]Even today, Spidy is advocating Europe and its green energy policies. Look at what happened in Germany with nuclear: [URL]https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Germany/nuclear_power_generation/[/URL] ...

And to meet their mandated carbon reductions, Germany imported massive amounts of natural gas from Putin. For all the Dems and their liberal bullshit talk about Putin, it was their idiotic energy policies that enriched Putin.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I sure "drill-baby-drill" MAGAs, would also love to see Germany, keep importing massive amounts of "expensive LNG gas", at 2 x to 3 x the cost of Russian gas, from the USA, right.

See my previous post (to the other MAGA LCOE neophyte) on, Electrostate vs. Petrostate: Electricity Grid Infrastructure is Key! Nevertheless, as I already explained, the major impact and cause of "soaring energy bills" in Germany, is also due to the following three (3) critical things: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=3046562&viewfull=1#post3046562[/URL] Difference is Germany's future, is better off for it, going forward.

So while [I]the U.S.[/I] (under the MAGA Fuhrer) continues to blame renewables, and stumbles to upgrade its grid responsiveness and readiness, in the wake of the 2026 winter storm, Germany is learning from its gas contract mistakes, by making significant progress in electrifying its heating sector, developing large-scale heat pumps, leveraging geothermal energy, and advancing heat storage technologies.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3050889]I still have no idea, what investment Quebec dams, you're talking about? Whether they be newly planned, in construction or either being developed, [NOPARSE]please provide the news article and/or link to the information, to which you're referring to?

The last Quebec dam build, planned or developed (that I know of), was the Romaine-4 hydroelectric plant (which is part of the La Romaine complex in Quebec), which finished in 2023, long before the MAGA Fuhrer's 2nd term chaos.

And despite, Elvis 2008's, wrongheaded and nonsensical rant on Canada, the U.S. is desperate and would love to have Canadian hydro power (and other resources). Empathizes on "desperate", as the MAGA Fuhrer, would love to make Canada the 51st [/NOPARSE]state.[/QUOTE][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generating_stations_in_Quebec[/URL]

I never said they was building one by day, my point was that Dam arent like people think they are, they are not all single huge concrete wall who can be blowed with 1 explosion to shut down the electricity all over america in a single shot. So trying to produce it localy with coal for some knid of safety issue is bullshit, expensive and poisonning the air.

USA is sit next to a state who would happily sell enough clean energy for all the usa needs and all of this in canadian pesos. But american are so dumb and they are totaly mesmerized by their billionaire oligarch verbal diarrhea.

Apparently, the rogue Chinese bio lab found in Las Vegas contained 1,000 weaponized mice bioengineered to serve as vectors for Covid-19. The bio lab was hidden in the garage of an Airbnb property, and people who entered the unit reported becoming deathly ill. There are whispers that the Chinese mastermind intended to use the mice to infect mongers and gamblers with the deadly virus, and have them unknowingly spread it around the world as they traveled from Las Vegas.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3050844]Nope. No wild coincidence. No witch's curse. No bad luck for Repubs. No weird economic or business cycle that only favors Dems and punishes Repubs.

Nope.

It's crap Repub economic policies and stewardship. Every time. For about 100 years.

And, sure enough, there's that ol" reliable and utterly predictable Worst Since a Previous Repub Economic Disaster designation!

[B]Layoffs in January were the highest to start a year since 2009, Challenger says[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/05/layoff-and-hiring-announcements-hit-their-worst-january-levels-since-2009-challenger-says.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

MAGAs and that decisive tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, sure FAFO real good this time.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://x.com/xerias_x/status/1981716010483753013?s=42[/URL]

Less tourists spending money in USA under facist racist Trump. Big inflation, less jobs, the failure of the crazy senile orange. Murdering in Minneapolis don't pay.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3047385]No, this is me telling you that you are an arrogant ass. I understand Dems who vote the way they do because it is in their best interest, but you have no clue as to why people vote Republican. What you keep repeating is that MAGA people are stupid when the truth is you are a narrow minded, egotistical blockhead. And if you are voting Democrat as a form of identity versus how Democrats are actually performing for you, your mindset is a danger to Democracy.

You and Tooms go on and on about how terrible the economy is. But do you talk to people who actually live here? And if you did and those people said they are doing great under Trump or in my case that I have not noticed much difference between Trump and Biden, how would you respond? The appropriate response is to balance what is in the news with what you are hearing personally. But what you and Tooms do is insult the people living here if they do not agree with you. If you are doing better under Trump, you must be stupid. Everyone is doing worse!

Now I am sure there are people and businesses who have been hurt by tariffs, but the tsunami of predicted inflation has not shown up in my life or in the government's own number. Thing is that you ignore the ones doing better because of tariffs. In fact, if you are a typical Dem, it is impossible that anyone could be doing better because of tariffs when that is just not true.

LOL. No, it is the same reason. If a nation is not the low cost producer of an item, the government playbook is always the same. You give taxpayer subsidies to the industries you want in your country. You claim the products of the nation who can produce a good more cheaply are not safe. "We can't be dependent on American only data centers. We need our own!" and you put taxes on the goods from that other country, and you know what those taxes are called? They are called tariffs.

So, no, Europe cannot compete with the USA on a level playing field with data centers, so Europe titled the field. Your shining example of European success and green energy would go tits up without government assistance.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFXRoKzWFR0[/URL]*.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdkTdh_PZ8[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEyVTR07MlM[/URL]*.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3050721]Repub Trump is already the only so-called president since Repub Hoover, almost a hundred years ago, to leave office with fewer jobs in the USA economy than when he started his term. Now he very well might become the only so-called president to TWICE leave office in TWO separate terms with fewer jobs in the USA economy than when he started. Wow.

[B]Private payrolls rose by just 22,000, far short of expectations, ADP says[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/04/adp-jobs-report-january-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

You MAGAs really know how to pick them! Lolol.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/opinion/capitalism-industry-financialization.html[/URL]

He was Economic adviser to Mitt for his campaigns for the WH.

Cass for President 2028 with my other favorite Jew Stephen Miller as VP to handle other domestic policies.

"Well, that's what those dumb Repub MAGA hillbillies voted for in an election that was clinched for them by that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered".

WTF dum Repub MAGA hillbillies? I don't know the avg MAGA IQ but I will be you $100 k cash money, its at least 2 or 3 SDs higher then the low IQ mental midgets that voted for Brain dead Harris.

You constantly love to bash Muslims so much? Why don't you blame the black males that voted for Our Lord and Savior those intelligent voters helped save America.

From the likes of the America hating, Harris voting trash!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3050852]After 16 years of thinking and thinking and thinking about it, this is the best TrumpRepub alternative to Obamacare that Trump and his Repubs have come up with.

I mean, other than the classic Repub concept of a healthcare plan for America; If you get sick, get a lot sicker quickly and die soon.

[B]Millions may drop ACA coverage and raise health insurance costs for everyone else[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/04/millions-may-drop-aca-coverage-and-raise-health-costs-for-everyone-else.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL].[/QUOTE]You need an ID to buy a Beer or a Vape or to get anywhere near him.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/02/06/sen-ossoff-to-require-id-at-campaign-rally-while-he-fights-id-requirements-to-vote/[/URL]

I'm thinking weeks, possibly months. But World War 3 should be upon us soon, and I'm looking forward to it. I hope I get vaporized by the first wave of nukes so I won't be feeling any pain. All that being said, I'm praying to Lucifer the Light-Bringer that I get to hobby one last time in Bangkok before the nukes launch. How awesome would it be if I was on a plane when the end came? Get it? Came? Ha!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSRauM78_0[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqDptraCEk[/URL]

The end is near, and it's so beautiful. This is all we deserve as humanity. I never thought I'd live to see Armageddon, fuck I'm old. Now. Where's the pussy at?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3050917]Nah, the "liberal idiots" verbally attack, the continued use of coal, equally, wherever it's happening, while promoting and fostering cooperative relationships for cleaner, fossil-free solutions. [/QUOTE]Except for China, which accepts reality, that it needs coal to provide firm baseload supply.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710]He did not back off one iota when the cold spells left so many people without power when they needed it most. [/QUOTE]What do you expect? He's fixated on LCOE. He bizarrely believes that solar and wind are more reliable than natural gas and fuel oil during weather events. He probably doesn't realize utilities have fuel oil stocks and gas storage fields to handle cold spells. And doesn't appear to understand that you must have natural gas, coal, and/or nuclear plants for reliable baseload power, unless you live someplace like Quebec or New Zealand.

For the bigger picture, ignoring weather events, by focusing just on LCOE, he ignores a lot of costs. For example, the cost of transmission build-out, new and upgraded substations, etc. He fails to consider that storage for wind and solar is expensive. And extremely expensive more than 6 hours out. Please note on an average day with good weather you can only get meaningful solar generation for about 4 to 6 hours. For wind the average is 6 to 10 hours a day.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050008](Quebecois) have like 50% of their land covered of river and lake, its enough to produce enrgy for the whole world. [/QUOTE]BAHAHAHAHA!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049863][I]Duh! ...[/I]everyone knows, that output drops when snow covers a solar panel, and smart operators should naturally plan for it. But as petrol-heads insistently drown on about the failures of solar and wind, perhaps they should, they should why oil and gas output have also dropped in the 2026 frigid winter cold snap?

Tell me again, how will a [I]U.S. grid,[/I] that runs 60% on fossil fuels, is going to power itself on fossil fuels going forward, when it can even get passed a winter storm, where production levels of oil and gas drastically drop off during a storm?
[/QUOTE]Gas production fell by maybe 10% nationwide during the "2026 frigid winter cold snap. " But withdrawals from gas storage fields made up for a lot of that, and in some areas all of it. Generation from solar nationwide fell by 60% to 90%, and wind fell by 30% to 60%.

Electricity generation from fuel oil and diesel (that is, oil) on the other hand increased a lot. During peak demand it accounted for 40%+ of power generation in New York and some other states in the northeast. Normally fuel oil and diesel account for less than 1% of power generation in New York.

Percentages above, except BennieBen's, are from ChatGPT.

Thank goodness for fossil fuels! Without them a lot of people would have gotten very cold.

I will correct you a second time. Production levels of oil are irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Nobody uses oil based products for power generation at scale because the electricity costs too much. Except in some blue states during freezes, because Democratic Party politicians hindered and prevented construction of gas pipelines.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049863][U]5th Grade Maths:[/U]

However, it seems you still can't do basic 5th grade math, from my last post? Well here allow me to help with your 5th grade math assignment, I left with you.

60 is bigger than 15. [NOPARSE]In fact it is exactly 4x times bigger. So when the USA Electricity grid is powered by 60% fossil fuels, and only 15% solar and wind, it's only far that when the grid fails, fossil fuels should shoulders 4x times the [/NOPARSE]blame.[/QUOTE]BAHAHAHAHAHA!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049863]Remember though, the real blame (like Texas 2021), in this 2026 winter storm, comes down to poor grid management, downed lines and insufficient preparedness, resulting in grid failure.

[B]PS:[/B] By contrast, there was an abundance of wind generation as the storm rips through parts of New Mexico and Oklahoma.[/QUOTE]You are correct, the 2026 blackouts in Texas were caused by poor grid management. ERCOT, which manages the grid, prioritized some residential and other areas over oil and gas fields, gas plants, and pipeline compressors. When electricity was shut off to the hydrocarbon producing, processing and transportation infrastructure, equipment froze up and couldn't be restarted. Gas pipeline and processing companies sounded the alarm, but ERCOT wouldn't listen. This isn't a mistake that will be repeated in Texas.

Because my flight was cancelled, and American Airline rebooked me on a flight four days out, I drove from DFW airport to Lubbock on the coldest day of the 2021 Texas deep freeze in a rental car. The route took me through the most prolific wind generating area in Texas. And the wind wasn't blowing. The windmills weren't turning.

[B]Trump's racist post about Obamas is deleted after backlash,[/B] Feb 05,2025 [URL]https://apnews.com/article/trump-obama-racist-video-a48a6b8884a88f9ec30cd4913e352b51[/URL].

I would imagine, the so called [B]"fake outrage..."[/B] in the racist mind of the fake blonde bimbo, WH Press Secretary, can only mean, she thought [U]everyone already knows[/U] the MAGA Fuhrer is a racist, so why all the fuss? LOL!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051039][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/opinion/capitalism-industry-financialization.html[/URL]

He was Economic adviser to Mitt for his campaigns for the WH.

Cass for President 2028 with my other favorite Jew Stephen Miller as VP to handle other domestic policies.

"Well, that's what those dumb Repub MAGA hillbillies voted for in an election that was clinched for them by that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered".

WTF dum Repub MAGA hillbillies? I don't know the avg MAGA IQ but I will be you $100 k cash money, its at least 2 or 3 SDs higher then the low IQ mental midgets that voted for Brain dead Harris.

You constantly love to bash Muslims so much? Why don't you blame the black males that voted for Our Lord and Savior those intelligent voters helped save America.

From the likes of the America hating, Harris voting trash![/QUOTE]Was he the MittWitt economic campaign advisor who told MittWitt to assure the American people that his historically brilliant Repub economic policies that brought us every Great Depression, Great Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years would also lower the unemployment rate to 6% within 4 years? Then Obama / Biden went on to lower it below 5% in 6 months or something like that? LOL.

Oh, and please cite the posts and quotes where I "bash Muslims".

I have only pointed out that a tiny handful of angry Muslims who swung their usual vote for the Dem candidate to the Repub candidate in the only 3 swing states that mattered gave the presidency to Trump, that's all. A swing of less than about 114,900 votes from that one demographic out of hundreds of thousands of them in those 3 swing states did it. A swing of about 0. 75 of a single percentage point of them spread across those three states did it.

No blue states flipped from Harris to Trump. None. So whatever percentage of Blacks, Latinos, Asians, Men, whatever Trump gained and Harris lost momentarily on any particular isdue did not matter and had nothing to do with the players on the field or who won the presidency.

It all came down to the one demographic that ordinarily votes for Dems swinging a relatively tiny handful of their votes from Harris to Trump in just those 3 swing states. Which is why that one demographic was targeted so specifically on that one issue in those 3 states. Team Trump and Netanyahu's efforts worked. Just barely. But they worked. It's as simple as that.

Which, BTW, is why it has been so blissfully easy and lightning fast for Trump's poll numbers on his handling of the economy, inflation, immigration, etc to tank. LOL. The typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media was convinced and has tried to convince anyone who would listen that Trump just won the presidency on those and other issues like trannies, crime, pet-eating and so on. So now they are shocked that those "strong issues" for him are collapsing like a house of cards.

But the reality is Trump did NOT win because of those issues. He won for the reason I have been pointing out since the night of the election. So it is easy for the American people to turn on poor baby Trump on the issues that would not and did not really win him anything had that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI not swung their usual Dem vote to the Repub in response to a single issue that had nothing to do with the economy, inflation, immigration, wokeism, cats and dogs being eaten, where trannies pee and nothing of the kind.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3051090]Was he the MittWitt economic campaign advisor who told MittWitt to assure the American people that his historically brilliant Repub economic policies that brought us every Great Depression, Great Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years would also lower the unemployment rate to 6% within 4 years? Then Obama / Biden went on to lower it below 5% in 6 months or something like that? LOL.

Oh, and please cite the posts and quotes where I "bash Muslims".

I have only pointed out that a tiny handful of angry Muslims who swung their usual vote for the Dem candidate to the Repub candidate in the only 3 swing states that mattered gave the presidency to Trump, that's all. A swing of less than about 114,900 votes from that one demographic out of hundreds of thousands of them in those 3 swing states did it. A swing of about 0. 75 of a single percentage point of them spread across those three states did it.

No blue states flipped from Harris to Trump. None. So whatever percentage of Blacks, Latinos, Asians, Men, whatever Trump gained and Harris lost momentarily on any particular isdue did not matter and had nothing to do with the players on the field or who won the presidency.[/QUOTE]Yes you constantly bash and use the "Dog whistle" here for your fellow racists / bigots that hate Caucasians (most Muslims are Caucasians).

I'm sure many many more very wise black males voted for Our Lord and Savior to help him handily win the Electoral College and the Popular vote.

BTW I have always extremely loathed Mitt (and have never voted for him).

And I'm sure Mitt hates Oren, which is an Economic Nationalist / Populist and Awesome Patriot.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051129]Yes you constantly bash and use the "Dog whistle" here for your fellow racists / bigots that hate Caucasians (most Muslims are Caucasians).

I'm sure many many more very wise black males voted for Our Lord and Savior to help him handily win the Electoral College and the Popular vote.

BTW I have always extremely loathed Mitt (and have never voted for him).

And I'm sure Mitt hates Oren, which is an Economic Nationalist / Populist and Awesome Patriot.[/QUOTE]Was there an uncharacteristically large surge in black male votes for Trump in PA, MI and WI? Because those were the states whose Electoral College appointments gave the presidency to Trump in 2024. There was no surge of any typically Dem demographic voters that flipped a Blue state's EC appointments to Trump. Since that didn't happen, where are you getting that a move in Black, Latino or any other typically Dem demographic vote from Harris to Trump won him a single decisive EC appointment?

In the only 3 swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, there is plenty of evidence that the targeting of the Muslim Community in those 3 states and swinging just enough of those potential votes from Harris to Trump, less than a single percentage point swing among them, is the sole reason the USA now has to pay higher prices for groceries, there have been massive private-sector jobs layoffs, private-sector jobs creation has been practically non existent for over a year, Trillions and Trillions have been added to Trump's deficits with nothing to show for it and on and on.

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/swing-state-muslim-leaders-biden-00129758[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailysabah.com/world/americas/us-muslims-drive-trumps-win-sparking-debate-among-pundits[/URL]

[URL]https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/11/08/muslim-voters-in-battle-ground-states-boosted-donald-trump-to-victory/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-earns-endorsement-highly-respected-muslim-leaders-battleground-state[/URL]

And this was a major deciding factor in their tiny handful of swing votes from Harris to Trump that "gave Trump the presidency"; Netanyahu simply delayed honoring the Biden-negotiated May 2024 ceasefire agreement until after the election:

[URL]https://www.trtworld.com/article/18254320[/URL]

An Always Welcome Bonus Video:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3050710]The problem with this TDS madness is that it gets blamed for everything. Yeah, Bennie, when I looked into Canada and their hydroelectric potential, it was great. Then you look at real estate prices, immigrants surging, crime rates in Canada, the political leadership, and especially the shit Ottawa pulled with the Covid trucker's strike, and I would not want to put a penny into Canada right now.

I grew up near Canada and I considered Canadians and Americans interchangeable. Even when W Bush came into power, and one USD would buy $1. 50 Canadian, I thought Canada was greatly undervalued. They balanced their budget, were not fighting stupid wars, and even provided free / national healthcare. Their cities were crime free models many American cities that many American city wanted to emulate. And ten years, the Canadian and American dollar were equal in value.

But Canada cow towed to their women who were no longer having kids, and Canada tried to fix their population problem with immigration and unlike the USA (well, unlike the USA except under Biden) they let in so many immigrants they lost their culture. Housing prices skyrocketed, crime rates soared, and the Canadian culture IMO is dead replaced by a version of liberalism that would make California blush.

In 2001, Canada was nirvana for the monger. Lap dances were $14 not $20, and the escorts were beautiful, plentiful, and legal. Now we are at one USA dollar buying $1. 37 Canadian and I think the USA dollar is undervalued. The nanny state is so strong there that Americans with one DWI are not let into the country. If you invest in Canada, you often cannot get your money out. The hostility towards the USA, even before Trump, is unreal..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/chris-ruddy-rob-schmitt-trump/2026/02/06/id/1245151/[/URL]

Ruddy is one of Our Lord and Saviors Jewish neighbors in Miami.

Ruddy is a billionaire and Owner of Newsmax, walking around Caracas, ID like to see the military escort lolololololol.

If I could get visa ID be in Caracas right now.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3051184]Was there an uncharacteristically large surge in black male votes for Trump in PA, MI and WI? Because those were the states whose Electoral College appointments gave the presidency to Trump in 2024. There was no surge of any typically Dem demographic voters that flipped a Blue state's EC appointments to Trump. Since that didn't happen, where are you getting that a move in Black, Latino or any other typically Dem demographic vote from Harris to Trump won him a single decisive EC appointment?

In the only 3 swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, there is plenty of evidence that the targeting of the Muslim Community in those 3 states and swinging just enough of those potential votes from Harris to Trump, less than a single percentage point swing among them, is the sole reason the USA now has to pay higher prices for groceries, there have been massive private-sector jobs layoffs, private-sector jobs creation has been practically non existent for over a year, Trillions and Trillions have been added to Trump's deficits with nothing to show for it and on and on.

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/swing-state-muslim-leaders-biden-00129758[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailysabah.com/world/americas/us-muslims-drive-trumps-win-sparking-debate-among-pundits[/URL]

[URL]https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/11/08/muslim-voters-in-battle-ground-states-boosted-donald-trump-to-victory/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-earns-endorsement-highly-respected-muslim-leaders-battleground-state[/URL]

And this was a major deciding factor in their tiny handful of swing votes from Harris to Trump that "gave Trump the presidency"; Netanyahu simply delayed honoring the Biden-negotiated May 2024 ceasefire agreement until after the election:

[URL]https://www.trtworld.com/article/18254320[/URL]

An Always Welcome Bonus Video:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL][/QUOTE]The erosion of the Democratic base is accelerating.

Black voters have been — and still are — the most reliable Democratic voters. But in his three presidential campaigns, Mr. Trump made serious inroads in heavily Black counties, across the Deep South and beyond.

Those incursions predated 2024: More counties with a majority of Black voters shifted toward the Republicans in each of the last three elections than the total number of counties nationwide that trended toward Democrats.

Democrats increased their share of the vote in all three elections in only two majority-Black counties in the entire country, Rockdale and Douglas, both outside Atlanta in Georgia, a hotly contested battleground state.

Percentage of Black population, by county.

Shifted left three times.

Shifted right three times.

80%.

70.

60.

Rockdale.

County.

50.

Counties.

In Georgia.

40.

30.

20.

10.

Note: Circle size indicates county population.

Measuring electoral performance by race using countywide results is imprecise; voters of any race could play a role in a partisan shift. But all signs point toward the same conclusion, including the fact that Mr. Trump's support continued to grow in each of the six most predominantly Black counties in the country.

In last year's election, Republicans gained ground in 193 of the country's 200 most predominantly Black counties — even as former Vice President Kamala Harris stood to become the first Black female president.

The slippage is even more pronounced and profound in Latino communities.

Percentage of Hispanic population, by county.

Shifted left three times.

Shifted right.

90%.

Counties.

In Texas.

80.

70.

60.

50.

No counties with a Hispanic.

Population of more than.

30 percent shifted to the left.

40.

30.

20.

10.

Note: Circle size indicates county population.

Of the 67 counties in America with a majority Hispanic population, 66 voted more Republican in 2024 than in 2012.

Even more arresting is that the average swing toward the G. O. P. In those 66 Hispanic-majority counties was 23 percentage points — a political earthquake with which both parties are still coming to terms.

Mr. Trump improved his results in each of his three presidential runs in about two-thirds of majority-Hispanic counties.

Democrats, by contrast, steadily improved their share of the vote in not a single county in America where Latinos account for a third or more of the population.

The DNC is clearly the party of Anti American Feminists, Trannies and all those from Asia that hate America from birth even if they were shit out here.

There was an aphorism going around after the election, seems everyone hates Trump except Blacks Whites and Hispanics (Jews Muslims and Hispanics are Caucasians).

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051315]The erosion of the Democratic base is accelerating.

Black voters have been and still are the most reliable Democratic voters. But in his three presidential campaigns, Mr. Trump made serious inroads in heavily Black counties, across the Deep South and beyond.

Those incursions predated 2024: More counties with a majority of Black voters shifted toward the Republicans in each of the last three elections than the total number of counties nationwide that trended toward Democrats.

Democrats increased their share of the vote in all three elections in only two majority-Black counties in the entire country, Rockdale and Douglas, both outside Atlanta in Georgia, a hotly contested battleground state.

Percentage of Black population, by county.

Shifted left three times.

Shifted right three times.

80%..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFsmLTS360s[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051315]The erosion of the Democratic base is accelerating.

Black voters have been and still are the most reliable Democratic voters. But in his three presidential campaigns, Mr. Trump made serious inroads in heavily Black counties, across the Deep South and beyond.

Those incursions predated 2024: More counties with a majority of Black voters shifted toward the Republicans in each of the last three elections than the total number of counties nationwide that trended toward Democrats.

Democrats increased their share of the vote in all three elections in only two majority-Black counties in the entire country, Rockdale and Douglas, both outside Atlanta in Georgia, a hotly contested battleground state.

Percentage of Black population, by county.

Shifted left three times.

Shifted right three times.

80%.

70.

60.

Rockdale.

County.

50.

Counties.

In Georgia.

40.

30.

20.

10.

Note: Circle size indicates county population...[/QUOTE]Again, I see zero assertion and zero link for when, where, how and which typically Blue State flipped from Harris to Trump due to an "erosion" of Black, Latino or any other usual Dem voters that gave Trump so much as a single decisive or winning Electoral College appointment to give him the presidency and launch into his 2nd disastrous term of wiping out private-sector jobs while skyrocketing his deficits.

None.

Only one typically Dem voting demographic in the only 3 swing states that mattered and where that demographic was specifically targeted on a single issue with Netanyahu in more control over that issue than anyone else on the planet produced the deciding Electoral College appointments to give Trump the presidency in 2024 and launch into his destruction of America and the American economy.

You have provided zero assertion or link to support any other conclusion.

Right down there with zero quotes or links for me "bashing Muslims. ".

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR4yoQ-EXd8/?igsh=bXEydzY1a3EwZ3Jn[/URL]

Maybe your link guy was distracted by Trump's racist cartoon.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051359][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFsmLTS360s[/URL][/QUOTE][B]Black Americans, stand up for immigrants. ICE is terrorizing our communities, too.
If there ever was a time for solidarity, the time is now. The end of due process for immigrants is the end of due process for everyone.[/B]

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2025/11/15/ice-us-citizens-black-americans-chicago-south-side/87210498007/[/URL]

[QUOTE]When I read headlines about Immigration and Customs Enforcement and National Guard deployments in Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and now possibly Charlotte, North Carolina, and New Orleans childhood trauma resurfaces. As a Black, first-generation citizen born in the United States, who grew up in an overpoliced immigrant community, I feel echoes of painful memories.

I lived in a mixed-immigration status household in East Flatbush, Brooklyn, a melting pot of Caribbean ethnicities including St. Lucian, Jamaican, Haitian, Dominican and Guyanese. I was always struck by how normal the militarization of our neighborhood seemed to some locals, even though it was anything but. When I visited Manhattan or somewhere more racially diverse, I noticed people there didnt face constant police checkpoints, frequent stops or fear of armed officers conditions proven to traumatize those repeatedly exposed to them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050926][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generating_stations_in_Quebec[/URL]

I never said they was building one by day, my point was that Dam arent like people think they are, they are not all single huge concrete wall who can be blowed with 1 explosion to shut down the electricity all over america in a single shot. So trying to produce it localy with coal for some knid of safety issue is bullshit, expensive and poisonning the air.

USA is sit next to a state who would happily sell enough clean energy for all the usa needs and all of this in canadian pesos. But american are so dumb and they are totaly mesmerized by their billionaire oligarch verbal diarrhea.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation, Bennie!

But I'm afraid, the more you explain, the more convoluted and befuddling it becomes.

Thanks anyways!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051224][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/chris-ruddy-rob-schmitt-trump/2026/02/06/id/1245151/[/URL]

Ruddy is one of Our Lord and Saviors Jewish neighbors in Miami.

Ruddy is a billionaire and Owner of Newsmax, walking around Caracas, ID like to see the military escort lolololololol.

If I could get visa ID be in Caracas right now.[/QUOTE]If you are going to Caracas for women, you will likely be disappointed. Venezuela is home of all these Miss Universes and Jim Rogers, who did a world tour, went to Caracas on his worldwide tour and said something to the effect that it was not what he expected. I went after he did and I will tell you it is a flat up disappointment. In fact, I would have said the Venezuelan women were overrated if not for the stunning Venezuelans I have met abroad.

Colombian and Venezuelan women are in the same gene pool, and that is the reason Colombia has been so accepting of Venezuelans. What I have learned about the culture is the best women are held very closely by their families and the brothers / parents are very protective of these women.

American women have gotten so pathetic that if you do not have a kid, a mental illness, huge debt, a drug problem, or are obese, you are in the top 1% of all women even if you are a plain jane looks wise. In contrast, my gal's daughter and her friends would be in the top 0.1% of all American women because most are in shape and attractive, and they are all virgins. You might ask how I know, but I can tell you how tightly the parents are in control of their kids. The issue is when these women go to university and are out of the homes that many go nuts with men.

On the flip side if you are going to buy land, that is a no-brainer. I kicked myself for not buying land / a house in Buenos Aires after that country's economy collapsed. The region in Buenos Aires where all the embassies is goes by the name Palermo, and it is the last place any new administration is going to steal land from. So buying land / a house around the USA embassy in Caracas now is a great idea. The prices in BA tripled in like five years.

Thing is Caracas is a hot as fuck shithole. Yeah, there are a few nice parts, but you have to drive through the slums on the way to and from the airport and maybe traffic is better now that so many people have left the country but the road to the city would often get backed up in the slum area. You are a sitting duck there for any armed punk.

The area I am looking at is LOS Roques. [URL]https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=%22los[/URL]+roques+venezuela%22.

Everybody outside of Venezuela thinks the best beaches are on Margarita Island but in Venezuela everyone mentions LOS Roques. I am not sure there are better beaches in South America or anywhere really and in the Southern Caribbean hurricanes are much less of a problem than areas like the Gulf coast.

I have not been to the city of Merida but that is where I would go if I were looking for women. It is in the mountains and cooler and is home to some of the best universities in the country.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3051783]If you are going to Caracas for women, you will likely be disappointed. Venezuela is home of all these Miss Universes and Jim Rogers, who did a world tour, went to Caracas on his worldwide tour and said something to the effect that it was not what he expected. I went after he did and I will tell you it is a flat up disappointment. In fact, I would have said the Venezuelan women were overrated if not for the stunning Venezuelans I have met abroad.

Colombian and Venezuelan women are in the same gene pool, and that is the reason Colombia has been so accepting of Venezuelans. What I have learned about the culture is the best women are held very closely by their families and the brothers / parents are very protective of these women.

American women have gotten so pathetic that if you do not have a kid, a mental illness, huge debt, a drug problem, or are obese, you are in the top 1% of all women even if you are a plain jane looks wise. In contrast, my gal's daughter and her friends would be in the top 0.1% of all American women because most are in shape and attractive, and they are all virgins. You might ask how I know, but I can tell you how tightly the parents are in control of their kids. The issue is when these women go to university and are out of the homes that many go nuts with men.

On the flip side if you are going to buy land, that is a no-brainer. I kicked myself for not buying land / a house in Buenos Aires after that country's economy collapsed. The region in Buenos Aires where all the embassies is goes by the name Palermo, and it is the last place any new administration is going to steal land from. So buying land / a house around the USA embassy in Caracas now is a great idea. The prices in BA tripled in like five years..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2026/02/08/today-is-the-day-fans-of-pro-trump-nicki-minaj-announce-move-to-republican-party/[/URL]

I wouldn't visit for pussy I think the scene is still too unstable for that, I want to visit some people I know and I want to explore early.

Before ISGs flood it like Colombia SEA et al.

Maracay is supposed to be a nice military town.

I wish I was brave enough buy a place near the beaches in Aragua, but not unlike the Oil execs.

The Chavistas have a terrible track record of taking things that don't belong to them.

I haven't been there yet, but I don't agree with your comment about the gene pool.

My apologies if your GF is Colombian but Colombian chicas are not attractive to me.

Either their body is whacked or their face is or both.

I like a very thin and very pretty with smaller breasts.

Kinda like Veronica Rodriguez the Porn Star, I met her at a Porn Convention, she wanted to cum to my room for $$ and was texting and calling me later that day.

But I wasn't interested in her price.

I can give you an example, the women in Poland are pretty ugly, walk around Germany and you will probably never see an Ugly woman (ethnically German) I never have.

My theory is men with the most money breed with the best looking women money can buy, that affects the gene pool.

I'm pretty sure this is the case with Venezuela and Colombia.

And Japan and South Korea the Korean face is whacked.

There are several polling services showing more Americans and likely voters ranking Bidenomics higher than Trumpanomics. But none is no doubt more hurtful to poor baby Trump than his and his MAGA Repubs' favorite polling service, Rasmussen. And its head polster grudgingly admits that Biden would trounce Trump again if another election were held today:

[B]Trump Friendly Pollster Stuns With Survey Comparing Biden And Trumps Job Performance.
Feb. 11, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-friendly-pollster-stuns-survey-204752162.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]According to a Rasmussen survey released on Tuesday, 56% of likely U.S. voters disapprove of Trumps performance thus far in the White House. The numbers got worse from there, especially when his performance was compared to that of former President Joe Biden.

When asked who did a better job as president, 48% answered with Biden and 40% answered Trump. Another 8% say they have performed about the same. The survey was conducted between February 2-4 among more than 1,000 likely voters. It carries a margin of error of 3%.
...........
Rasmussen Reports head pollster Mark Mitchell argued that while he would likely not agree with voters who would choose Biden over Trump today, the numbers are undeniable.

"If an election were held TODAY between Trump and Biden, Biden would win, he wrote on Tuesday on X. There are a million valid arguments you can make that explain why thats retarded, and I would agree with most of them. But that doesnt change the fact Biden would win.[/QUOTE]BTW, that poll was conducted BEFORE the January 2026 BLS Jobs Report was released showing a revised net LOSS of 1000 jobs for the entire 2nd half of 2025 after Trump enacted his "Liberation From Your Job" Day tariffs along with the 130,000 jobs created last month being dwarfed by the 230,000+ average per month we had under Biden, along with the 256,000 created in December 2024, a 4. 1% Unemployment Rate and a 2.9% inflation rate at the handoff.

Oh, and while we're at it, might as well mention 2024 already saw a decades' long low rate of violent and property crime under Biden after both had spiked up to decades' long highs rates in 2020 under Trump.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3051409]Maybe your link guy was distracted by Trump's racist cartoon.

[B]Black Americans, stand up for immigrants. ICE is terrorizing our communities, too.
If there ever was a time for solidarity, the time is now. The end of due process for immigrants is the end of due process for everyone.[/B]

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2025/11/15/ice-us-citizens-black-americans-chicago-south-side/87210498007/[/URL][/QUOTE]Against Vile Libertarians like Chas Koch Thomas Massie and Rand Paul.

And the likes of posters like you, FUCK Asia in all of its filthy disgusting holes!!

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/opinion/foreign-countries-bear-the-burden-of-tariffs-86794b27[/URL]

Post Script: and fuck Canada the EU and Mexico as well!

A Rasmussen Poll of Xi and the Chinese Communist Party would almost certainly show an overwhelming preference for Trump and Trumpanomics over Biden and Bidenomics.

[B]A year into Trump tariffs, Chinese factories and ports are buzzing with activity.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/12/trump-tariffs-cny-chinese-factories-and-ports-are-buzzing-with-activity.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Factories and ports appear as busy as ever ahead of the Lunar New Year pre-holiday rush.

Major ports in China saw a surge in containers activity, pushing up freight prices.

For shipments to the U.S., large containers were running above levels during the same period in 2024 and 2025 for most part of January and into February.[/QUOTE][B]China's trade surplus hit record $1.2 trillion in 2025.[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-trade-surplus-hit-record-073006417.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Last year's bruising trade war between Washington and Beijing -- which at one point saw reciprocal tariffs in the triple digits -- led to a 20 percent plunge year-on-year in China's exports to the United States, with imports falling 14.6 percent.

But other trade partners more than filled the gap, increasing Chinese exports overall by 5.5 percent in 2025, while imports stayed flat in dollar terms.[/QUOTE]MAGA Repubs and your facilitating relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only 3 swing states that mattered and gave Trump the presidency in 2024, Xi and China thanks you very, very much for your vote.

Yep, we've got typically crap Repub jobs creation numbers, typically crap Repub high business bankruptcy numbers, typically crap Repub high private-sector jobs layoffs numbers, typically crap Repub broad USA Stock Market gains vs the previous Dem gains, etc, etc, etc and now typically crap Repub lower opportunities to achieve The American Dream.

Gee, who could have predicted such a thing? I mean, other than everyone who could have and did vote for Kamala Harris.

[B]Realtors report a 'new housing crisis' as January home sales tank more than 8%[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/12/january-homes-sales.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Sales of previously owned homes in January dropped a wider-than-expected 8.4% from December.

The median price for a home sold in January was $396,800, up 0.9% year over year and [b]the highest January price on record.[/b]

Inventory came down from December but was still up 3.4% year over year.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I wonder if 5 years of zero American iInfrastructure Week "anything" under Trump out of the past 9 years of him playing golf, golf and more golf while putting Russia Russia Russia and China First had anything to do with this all new Repub Housing Crisis.

Oh well. We tried.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054]Hot damn, an energy discussion! [/QUOTE]LOL! Dude get over yourself and don't be so freakin' conceited, energy debates and discussions have been going on here, for the last several months at least!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054]For the bigger picture, ignoring weather events, by focusing just on LCOE, he ignores a lot of costs. For example, the cost of transmission build-out, new and upgraded substations, etc.[/QUOTE]Again, [NOPARSE]just freakin' hubris! As if a weather storms, downed powerlines, transmission outages and new grid transition costs don't also exist for fossil fuel power plants.

Also an LCOE is what is. Until the financial energy industry uses something else, quit y'all belly-aching! Ya don't see me belly-aching about an LCOE, that does not take into account the massive fossil fuels cradle to grave inefficiencies of 50% to 70%, when used to [/NOPARSE]generate electricity.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054] He fails to consider that storage for wind and solar is expensive. And extremely expensive more than 6 hours out. ... BAHAHAHAHAHA![/QUOTE]So instead of flapping your gums and laughing [I](like an old maid windbag spinster),[/I] perhaps you should just try providing the evidence, with regards to your claims of fossil fuels (or nuclear), today having a lower LCOE than [I]solar/wind + battery storage.[/I] At best, the only fossil fuel, is gas-CCGT (the most efficient use of gas to generate electricity) and is only slightly lower or [I]on par with and LCOE for S+W+B.[/I] Yes, while solar and wind remain the lowest LCOE, even with storage many cases, worldwide.

[QUOTE=PVMagazineUSA]Lazard’s analysis of levelized cost of electricity across fuel types finds that new-build utility-scale solar, even without subsidy, [b]is less costly than new build natural gas, and competes with already-operating gas plant.[/b] ... On an unsubsidized $/MWh basis, renewable energy remains the most cost-competitive form of generation. ... both the lowest-cost and quickest-to-deploy generation resource.”[/QUOTE][B]Solar cost of electricity beats lowest-cost fossil fuel – even without tax credits,[/B], July 1st, 2025 [URL]https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2025/07/01/solar-cost-of-electricity-beats-lowest-cost-fossil-fuel-even-without-tax-credits/[/URL]

[U]The "baseload" grid of yesteryear, is not your electricity grid future of tomorrow:[/U]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054] And doesn't appear to understand that you must have natural gas, coal, and/or nuclear plants for reliable baseload power, unless you live someplace like Quebec or New Zealand.[/QUOTE]I think AEMO CEO, Daniel Westerman said it best, when referring not only to the Australia's grid for the future, but what he thinks the grids of the world will transition to and become:[LIST][i]"Australia’s operational paradigm is no longer ‘baseload-and-peaking’, but increasingly it’s a paradigm of ‘renewables-and-firming". It’s a crucial point to understand."

"[b] 'Baseload' is not so much a technical virtue as a business model[/b] – the people who invest in coal generators, and nuclear in particular, count on those machines operating at or near full capacity most of the time." [/i][/LIST]I couldn't agree more with that profound statement, from the AEMO CEO, as he calls out fossil fuel "baseload", [B]NOT a "technical virtue",[/B] but rather the case of a [B]"business virtue",[/B] of the fossil fuel overlords.

And let's not get it twisted [I]...in a renewables future grid of tomorrow,[/I] as clean green renewable tech gets better and more robust, fossil fuels may still play role, just less and less of a role, as time marches on.

I think, many of the energy sources powering the renewables grid around the world of tomorrow, will be dynamically digitally [I]software/firmware engineered[/I] to operate in complement to provide continual power demand (that also simulates any traditional "baseload" as needed and are NOT necessarily required to generate electricity 24/7, on their own.

Crazy senile Trump, after being a danger for our world, now wants to kill our planet, same than China. He doesn't care about future, when he will die soon, but killing our children. This guy is really a shame for so many points. USA compete with China to kill our planet.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051224][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/chris-ruddy-rob-schmitt-trump/2026/02/06/id/1245151/[/URL]

Ruddy is one of Our Lord and Saviors Jewish neighbors in Miami.

Ruddy is a billionaire and Owner of Newsmax, walking around Caracas, ID like to see the military escort lolololololol.

If I could get visa ID be in Caracas right now.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/donald-trump-christopher-ruddy-munich/2026/02/12/id/1245975/[/URL]

Iron-air (or Rust) batteries, companies like Ore Energy (EU) and Form Energy (US), with their [B]extremely low cost ($6/kw) 100-hour (4-days) battery systems,[/B] represent a pivotal breakthrough for long-duration energy storage (LDES) coupled with solar and wind, that are emerging as a cost-effective complementary, supplemental and / or alternative, beyond the 4 to 8 hour fast delivery of lithium-ion battery storage.

Form Energy, With manufacturing and commercial successes, early deployments of their Iron-Air batteries, are now underway with utility companies like Great River Energy, Xcel Energy and Georgia Power in Minnesota, Colorado and Georgia, respectively.

[B]Iron-Air Batteries: Transforming Renewable Energy Storage, December 3rd, 2025.[/B] [URL]https://energydigital.com/news/iron-air-batteries-transforming-renewable-energy-storage[/URL].

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054]He fails to consider that storage for wind and solar is expensive. And extremely expensive more than 6 hours out. Please note on an average day with good weather you can only get meaningful solar generation for about 4 to 6 hours. For wind the average is 6 to 10 hours a day.[/QUOTE]Once again, what the many champions of dirty fossil fuels, don't seem to realize, is that the many breakthroughs in clean energy tech, coming from companies like Ore Energy, Form Energy and Rondo Energy (heat batteries), is that clean tech areas like [I][b]the global battery storage sector[/b][/I], are solving our most challenging and difficult to abate energy and grid problems, at break-neck speeds.

Is 2026, the Year of the Battery?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3052074][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/donald-trump-christopher-ruddy-munich/2026/02/12/id/1245975/[/URL][/QUOTE]First, let's be frank about what is happening in the world — and why Trump's presidency continues to matter unlike any other.

And why his critics feel compelled to create a phony health crisis rather than debate his record.

Donald Trump is doing well in national polling, buoyed by strong approval among his base and solid support among likely voters.

Despite relentless attacks from much of the mainstream press, his numbers have remained resilient.

I recently reviewed a McLaughlin poll that asked voters whether President Trump is truly putting "America First" as a priority. An astonishing 65% said yes.

That's a seismic admission by such a majority.

Even many voters who may not agree with every decision concede — deep down — that he is putting the country's interests first.

And the results of those policies are tangible.

On the home front, recent GDP figures have shown robust growth, with third-quarter numbers in 2025 reaching 4.3%.

Compared to the final full quarter of the Biden administration, that represented a 79% increase in the growth rate.

On foreign policy, the Trump administration has moved aggressively and unapologetically.

Working with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the president has pushed forward diplomatic efforts in regions long considered intractable.

Agreements or ceasefires have been reached involving India and Pakistan, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The Gaza hostage standoff was brought to an end after intense negotiations.

NATO allies have committed to dramatically increasing defense spending, with a 5% benchmark no one thought possible.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051842]I haven't been there yet, but I don't agree with your comment about the gene pool.[/QUOTE]Well, you need to buff up on your history then. The reason Ecuador, Venezuela, and Colombia all have red, yellow, and blue flags is they were all a part of the same country for a while.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051842]Either their body is whacked or their face is or both.
I like a very thin and very pretty with smaller breasts.
Kinda like Veronica Rodriguez the Porn Star, I met her at a Porn Convention, she wanted to cum to my room for $$ and was texting and calling me later that day.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of women like Rodriguez in Colombia. Shakira is thin with small boobs. Thing is the women who look like that are more European (AKA whiter), and they have more well to do and protective parents, and you are not gong to see many in hooker venues. In Venezuela, the only people with money are the thieves in government or people bringing in it from abroad.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3051842]My apologies if your GF is Colombian but Colombian chicas are not attractive to me. My theory is men with the most money breed with the best looking women money can buy, that affects the gene pool.[/QUOTE]Now you sound like JJbee. First off, you are imagining that all men want looks first and everytrhing else second. Next, my gal was not the most attractive woman I met in Colombia. She was #2. #1 was a materialistic, self absorbed gold digger. I was shocked #1 was not awful in bed.

Your comment is not well thought out. If Veronica Rodriguez is your ideal woman, would you introduce her to your parents? Would you want to have children with her? What would your friends say if you said this is my GF? You do not distinguish between a woman who is a trophy fuck and a mother to be.

As for why my woman is different, I will make it easy. A hooker will blow you for money. A sugar baby will blow you, care about giving you a good BJ because she likes you, but she will still expect to get paid. A wife will blow you doing a courtship phase and maybe for six months to a year and then she will stop. She will say your dick tastes funny; she has a headache, or shame you for wanting sex. And when a wife pulls the power move of refusing sex, her sisters applaud her for standing up to her man.

Things are so fucked up we have feminists who say a man can rape his wife. Not only does a wife have to consent to sex even that is not enough. Women can say that regretting sex is rape, and male desire has been demonized. I have had to tell many a woman if your daddy was not a horny bastard, you would not be alive so STFU about demonizing male sex drive.

A hooker and sugar baby know if they do not provide for a man's sexual needs, they are out. And yet wives think they can withhold sex and their man is not going to leave them or cheat? How fucked up is that that people have lower expectations from wives than they do from sugar babies or mistresses?

So my criteria for monogamy was you have to show more desire than the hooker or sugar baby and stay attractive to me. So while your comparing your trophy fuck to my women, would Veronica Rodriguez be thrilled to suck your dick and not expect to be compensated? You already said you were arguing about price. Well, then she is a totally different animal than my woman.

How many married men do you know whose women have quit giving them BJs when they want? I would be hard pressed to name one that does not have that issue. Well, there is the kids. She had a headache: blah, blah, blah. How hard is it to give a blow job? Even with my SBs, over time, they would be less interested in sexually pleasing me and when that happened, I would get rid of them.

And to the married men who do not want to divorce their wives over sexual frigidity by choice, I would say why the fuck would you not get rid of them? If your wife is not even willing to put in the effort to give you a BJ, then why should you put any effort into her? Men have become such wimps. Stop feeling ashamed of having a sex drive. If men did not have that, we would all not exist.

The problem with this forum and mongers is they are conditioned to think there is just money for sex. For me to be monogamous, I have to feel like it is not quid pro quid with a hooker, and the woman better project to the world that she loves to suck my dick. It is on you to show the world that we do not have a john-hooker relationship and it has not come up with us despite the difference in age and beauty.

It is incredibly fucked up that I had to go to a third world country to find a woman to service the most basic of male needs, but I did. Worse than that, MDS, you do not even think that such a woman exists. So yeah, I get it. On here, I am just this bullshit artist. In my real life, my friends are thrilled that someone is in a happy relationship. It gives them hope that there are women like men that actually exist.

Better yet, she has set a different standard for other women. When we were on a vacation with another couple, they were fighting. Even my gal who is not that fluent picked up on it, but we were talking to the wife, and I told her that my gal and I have not had a fight, and she got defensive and said, "Well, we have not either" and right then and there, she shaped up, and their fighting stopped.

I have had so many guys say that they could never be with one woman, and I thought that too, but I know now the problem is not me. The reason I could not be faithful to one women is the pool of women out there sucks ass.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3052358]First, let's be frank about what is happening in the world and why Trump's presidency continues to matter unlike any other.

And why his critics feel compelled to create a phony health crisis rather than debate his record.

Donald Trump is doing well in national polling, buoyed by strong approval among his base and solid support among likely voters.

Despite relentless attacks from much of the mainstream press, his numbers have remained resilient.

I recently reviewed a McLaughlin poll that asked voters whether President Trump is truly putting "America First" as a priority. An astonishing 65% said yes.

That's a seismic admission by such a majority.

Even many voters who may not agree with every decision concede deep down that he is putting the country's interests first.

And the results of those policies are tangible..[/QUOTE]AI scanned the universe of reports, data and evidence to arrive at this overview to the question:

[B]Why did panels of non-partisan historians rank Trump the Worst President in U.S. History?[/B]

[QUOTE]Panels of non-partisan historians, political scientists, and presidential expertsmost notably in the Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey (2018, 2021, 2024) and the C-SPAN Presidential Historians Survey (2021)have consistently ranked Donald Trump at or near the bottom of U.S. presidents.

These rankings are based on an average of ratings across various leadership categories. Experts argue that his presidency was "singular" in its departure from established institutional norms and that he caused significant harm to democratic institutions.

Here are the primary reasons cited for the low rankings:

1. Undermining Democratic Norms and Institutions
Historians heavily weigh a president's respect for the Constitution and the peaceful transfer of power.
2020 Election and Jan. 6: Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, culminating in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, are frequently cited as a primary reason for the last-place ranking. This is seen as a direct attack on the democratic process.
Distrust of Institutions: Experts point to his rhetoric against the judiciary, the intelligence community, and the electoral system, arguing this weakened public trust in foundational American institutions.

2. "Worst" Rankings in Moral Authority and Administration
In surveys that break down leadership into categories, Trump consistently received the lowest scores in:
Moral Authority: Critics pointed to his rhetoric, personal conduct, and divisive language, arguing he failed to unify the country or adhere to the dignity of the office.
Administrative Skills: Experts often cited high turnover rates within his cabinet, chaotic decision-making processes, and a disregard for established policy-making protocols.

3. Two Impeachments
Trump is the only president in U.S. history to be impeached twice (2019 and 2021). While he was acquitted by the Senate both times, historians see the House chargesabuse of power/obstruction of Congress, and incitement of insurrectionas significant marks against his leadership.

4. Handling of Major Crises
COVID-19 Pandemic: Many historians viewed his administration's response to the COVID-19 pandemic as lacking in scientific guidance, chaotic in its federal response, and damaging to public trust, leading to unnecessary loss of life.
Foreign Policy and Alliances: His "America First" approach led to strained relationships with traditional allies (NATO) and a withdrawal from international agreements, which critics argued diminished American influence globally.

5. Partisan and Regulatory Behavior.[/QUOTE]Most of those assessments were before the disastrous Tariffs and economic policies of his 2nd term added Trillions and Trillions to his deficits in order to "buy" the worst jobs creation record for any non Great Repub Depression or Great Repub Recession year, numbering a total of 181,000 new jobs. No, not per month. For the entire year of 2025!

And the weakest S&P 500 Index performance of any first year of a new presidential. Administration ever. Trump's favorite measure of economic success or failure.

And his trade wars with China once again further enriching China while impoverishing American farmers and manufacturers.

And his bombing and starting wars in several countries as well as threatening in invade and go to war with several allies including Canada, Mexico and Greenland.

And his sending masked and armed marauders into some of America's biggest and most important cities to hassle, harass, shoot and kill law-abiding American citizens.

And his Secretary of HHS bringing measles and polio back to the country.

And his taking extraordinary measures to protect and defend not the USA Constitution but pedos and kiddie sex traffickers.

And so on.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3052037]LOL! Dude get over yourself and don't be so freakin' conceited, energy debates and discussions have been going on here, for the last several months at least!
Also an LCOE is what is. Until the financial energy industry uses something else, quit y'all belly-aching! Ya don't see me belly-aching about an LCOE, that does not take into account the massive fossil fuels cradle to grave inefficiencies of 50% to 70%, when used to generate electricity.[/QUOTE]LOL. Tell me Spidy if alternative energy is so damned great, why are electricity prices higher in places like California and Europe who are shoving alternative energy up everyone else's nose? Tell me, oh wise one, why is LCOE better than what is on people's damned electric bill?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3052037]Solar cost of electricity beats lowest-cost fossil fuel even without tax credits, July 1st, 2025[/QUOTE]LOL. If solar were cheaper, why do guys like you have to keep beating your chests about it? People will do it on their own.

Here is a real life example. I have solar panels on the RV, and they charge the RV's battery. Last night, there was a rain storm, and the battery that powers the generator runs off of solar power but there was not enough sun yesterday to charge it. My generator runs off gasoline in the main tank, and the generator would not start. I had to turn on the truck engine which charged the battery to turn on the generator. So the solar I do have failed.

I have bought 12,000 watts of batteries to run a second AC unit for the summer. I have not had them installed because it is not hot enough yet, and I am up in the air to use added solar to charge them or not, but these batteries are crazy heavy, 300 pounds for all of them, so I bought a smaller one, a 2000 watt than I can carry. I use A / see in my home to charge up the battery and it is at 100%.

This battery had one function, to keep a space heater running for the night. Temp outside is 50 degrees. You know how long it lasted? Four fucking hours! And now the 2000 watt battery won't charge. It has been sitting in the RV for weeks as dead weight. I have not had the RV that long, and it has been fail, fail, fail with solar and batteries.

You know what has not failed? The generator that runs off of the gasoline tank in the RV. It has worked perfectly. You know what also has not failed? The heater that runs off of propane. So when the damned 2000 watt battery failed, I turned on the generator and ran the propane heater and all was well.

And you are going off of this crap about transmission lines, transformers, and grid stability, when the reality is, the alternative power is not reliable in my fucking RV! Every time I have given alternative energy a chance, it has sucked ass.

And the other part that cracks me up is that the first time I charged the battery, it was A / c power which is 60% fossil fuels. And this is what cracks me up, how many of these solar plants have batteries that are really charged by the sun and how many of these batteries are being charged by fossil fuels like mine were?

The entire basis for the alternative energy nonsense to begin with was "saving the planet" right? Oceans were going to rise and swallow us whole. Then we found out all the elites putting this horseshit had condos on the coast. I remember reading AlGore saying the combustion energy would lead man into extinction while flying everyone on a private jet!

And now the elites and their experts took their latest tumble with the Epstein release.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3052391]AI scanned the universe of reports, data and evidence to arrive at this overview to the question:

[B]Why did panels of non-partisan historians rank Trump the Worst President in U.S. History?[/B]

Most of those assessments were before the disastrous Tariffs and economic policies of his 2nd term added Trillions and Trillions to his deficits in order to "buy" the worst jobs creation record for any non Great Repub Depression or Great Repub Recession year, numbering a total of 181,000 new jobs. No, not per month. For the entire year of 2025!

And the weakest S&P 500 Index performance of any first year of a new presidential. Administration ever. Trump's favorite measure of economic success or failure.

And his trade wars with China once again further enriching China while impoverishing American farmers and manufacturers..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hillary-clinton-breaks-party-line-calls-mass-migration-destabilizing[/URL]

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-deep-deep-state[/URL]

The Deep state aka the puppets of the oligarchs.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3052358]First, let's be frank about what is happening in the world and why Trump's presidency continues to matter unlike any other.

And why his critics feel compelled to create a phony health crisis rather than debate his record.

Donald Trump is doing well in national polling, buoyed by strong approval among his base and solid support among likely voters.

Despite relentless attacks from much of the mainstream press, his numbers have remained resilient.

I recently reviewed a McLaughlin poll that asked voters whether President Trump is truly putting "America First" as a priority. An astonishing 65% said yes.

That's a seismic admission by such a majority..[/QUOTE]Full failure, despite DT and swallowing Putin, for Ukraine. Greenland hate USA. Tourists boycott USA. But yes, crazy senile too old Trump kill citizens, not even Black now, with ICE. Democracy falling like jobs under Trump. Only inflation increasing. I think our world, when USA are only 5%, look forward he dies, like Putin and Netanyahou, for a better world.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3052545]Full failure, despite DT and swallowing Putin, for Ukraine. Greenland hate USA. Tourists boycott USA. But yes, crazy senile too old Trump kill citizens, not even Black now, with ICE. Democracy falling like jobs under Trump. Only inflation increasing. I think our world, when USA are only 5%, look forward he dies, like Putin and Netanyahou, for a better world.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/munich-2007-day-west-was-told-no[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3052391]AI scanned the universe of reports, data and evidence to arrive at this overview to the question:

[B]Why did panels of non-partisan historians rank Trump the Worst President in U.S. History?[/B]

Most of those assessments were before the disastrous Tariffs and economic policies of his 2nd term added Trillions and Trillions to his deficits in order to "buy" the worst jobs creation record for any non Great Repub Depression or Great Repub Recession year, numbering a total of 181,000 new jobs. No, not per month. For the entire year of 2025!

And the weakest S&P 500 Index performance of any first year of a new presidential. Administration ever. Trump's favorite measure of economic success or failure.

And his trade wars with China once again further enriching China while impoverishing American farmers and manufacturers.

And his bombing and starting wars in several countries as well as threatening in invade and go to war with several allies including Canada, Mexico and Greenland.

And his sending masked and armed marauders into some of America's biggest and most important cities to hassle, harass, shoot and kill law-abiding American citizens.

And his Secretary of HHS bringing measles and polio back to the country.

And his taking extraordinary measures to protect and defend not the USA Constitution but pedos and kiddie sex traffickers.

And so on.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/cooke-what-eileen-gu-is-doing-is-adjacent-to-treason/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3052697][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/cooke-what-eileen-gu-is-doing-is-adjacent-to-treason/[/URL][/QUOTE]I am a fan of anyone whose intentions are to honor their Oath of Office and to make America a better place to live, work and invest. Even a minor mistake in that endeavor is bound to produce better results than from those whose intentions are clearly to exploit the position for the exact opposite results or to only enrich themselves at the great expense of everyone else.

By definition the former would mean virtually anyone who runs for office as a Democrat while the latter would be practically anyone who runs for office as any other party member.

Obviously.

That is a pattern impossible to ignore since it has been that way for about 100 years so far.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3052779]I am a fan of anyone whose intentions are to honor their Oath of Office and to make America a better place to live, work and invest. Even a minor mistake in that endeavor is bound to produce better results than from those whose intentions are clearly to exploit the position for the exact opposite results or to only enrich themselves at the great expense of everyone else.

By definition the former would mean virtually anyone who runs for office as a Democrat while the latter would be practically anyone who runs for office as any other party member.

Obviously.

That is a pattern impossible to ignore since it has been that way for about 100 years so far.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/opinion/trump-coalition-multiracial-working-class.html[/URL]

In other words, Democrats' underlying problems with Black and Latino voters are very similar to their problems with the electorate in general: a continued wariness toward a party that cannot yet be trusted to do what's in the interest of the nation as a whole.

This is it guys. World War 3 is going to happen in the next 2 to 3 days. This guy on the internets youtubes says so. So it must be true.

And I for one is looking forward to it. *sigh* I was going to go to the dentist next month though cause I really want to go back to Thailand.

I was really hoping to visit Thailand one last time before armageddon, but I guess it's no go. Shucks.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ny2oCmH5OI[/URL]

I was really looking forward to starting my youtube channel about Thailand. But since we'll all be wiped out by nuclear annihilation, there's not much point now.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3051409] Maybe your link guy was distracted by Trump's racist cartoon.

Black Americans, stand up for immigrants. ICE is terrorizing our communities, too.
If there ever was a time for solidarity, the time is now. The end of due process for immigrants is the end of due process for everyone.

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2025/11/15/ice-us-citizens-black-americans-chicago-south-side/87210498007/[/url][/QUOTE]It is amazing how the gullible MAGA nation, that post here, don't realize this very simple foundational freedom of rights, as they dumbfoundedly post about "WINNING", as if having your rights trampled on, is "WINNING"!

[B]Trump Suffers Record Low Polling on Key MAGA Policy, February 18th, 2025[/B], [I]"President Donald Trumps approval rating on a key MAGA policy has dropped to a new low as he delivers on a central campaign promise.

Only 38 percent of Americans think Trump is doing a good job on immigration, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll."[/I] [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-suffers-record-low-polling-on-key-maga-policy/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3052524]LOL. Tell me Spidy if alternative energy is so damned great, why are electricity prices higher in places like California and Europe who are shoving alternative energy up everyone else's nose? [/QUOTE]Dude, [NOPARSE]one has nothing to do with the other! So stop asking unrelated questions w/r to LCOE, that you know nothing about. As you're ONLY embarrassing [/NOPARSE]yourself!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3052524]Here is a real life example. I have solar panels on the RV, and they charge the RV's battery. ... And the other part that cracks me up is that the first time I charged the battery, it was A / c power which is 60% fossil fuels. [/QUOTE]LOL! [NOPARSE]Elvis 2008, is bitching about his first world RV "rooftop solar" problems,...meanwhile the poorest of the poor, in places like Pakistan (in Emerging Markets), are taking out loans, dipping into personal savings and selling their precious items, like their prized gold pieces, to buy solar panels, to solve [/NOPARSE] [B]actual real world[/B] problems, like powering their homes with rooftop solar, or irrigating their corps with DIY-mobile solar panels, instead of expensively fueled dirty non-renewable diesel generators.

So forgive me, if I find the hubris of your RV dilemma, as nothing more than gibberish, if this is what passes for a debate, on world energy issues, facing our planet, in MAGA circles.

[B]P.S.[/B] Oh BTW, it just so happens, that maybe, the Pakistani farmer's portable mobile accordion solar panel irrigation solution, may just have something in common with your RV dilemma?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3052664][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/munich-2007-day-west-was-told-no[/URL][/QUOTE]And USD falling, more than inflation and losing jobs, or risk to be killed by ICE supported by crazy Trump for crimes. MAGA is really falling. Shoot in head, not ears.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053008]Dude, one has nothing to do with the other! So stop asking unrelated questions w/r to LCOE, that you know nothing about. As you're ONLY embarrassing yourself![/QUOTE]I can see why Tiny quit responding to you. You just stated the price of a good has nothing to do with its cost. Sadly, I have no doubt that is something being taught at Ivy League universities.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053008]Elvis 2008, is bitching about his first world RV "rooftop solar" problems,...meanwhile the poorest of the poor, in places like Pakistan (in Emerging Markets), are taking out loans, dipping into personal savings and selling their precious items, like their prized gold pieces, to buy solar panels, to solve actual real world problems, like powering their homes with rooftop solar, or irrigating their corps with DIY-mobile solar panels, instead of expensively fueled dirty non-renewable diesel generators.P.S. Oh BTW, it just so happens, that maybe, the Pakistani farmer's portable mobile accordion solar panel irrigation solution, may just have something in common with your RV dilemma?[/QUOTE]I was bitching because the solar panels and battery falied while the fossil fuels did not. I don't get your analogy. I said my solar and battery failed. I understand the plan of the Pakistani farmer but you failed to mention whether their solar panels were reliable or did the panels fail when they were most needed like with everyone else.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053008]So forgive me, if I find the hubris of your RV dilemma, as nothing more than gibberish, if this is what passes for a debate, on world energy issues, facing our planet, in MAGA circles.[/QUOTE]If cost of a good has nothing to do with price, WTF does? And I am glad you think that reliablitity of energy supply is not important. Yes, the dude in Brazil somehow invokes MAGA and Trump as to why energy supply reliability is not an issue.

And your moronic labels just took a hit, Spidy. Bill Maher just apologized to Q'Anon. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYY9_88UXvY[/URL].

I must have missed your apology. Can you link to it?

And in that same video, another one of your moronic labels took a hit. Yeah, that would be pizzagate. Apparently, the guy who debunked Pizzagate was arrested for raping toddlers. That is at the 6:40 mark in the video.

It seems to me that whenever you engage in your moronic labels they come back to bite you in the ass, and those scars are there even if you try to deny they do not exist.

Welp. There goes our Two Weeks TACO Trump Tariffs refund checks!

[B]U.S. trade deficit totaled $901 billion in 2025, barely budging despite Trump tariffs[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/19/us-trade-deficit-totaled-901-billion-in-2025-despite-trumps-tariffs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]For the full year, the U.S. ran a $901.5 billion trade deficit, down slightly from 2024 but only by 0.2%, or $2.1 billion.

The report follows a year in which President Donald Trump implemented a series of aggressive tariffs aimed at leveling the global playing field.[/QUOTE]He conned dumb Repub hillbilly MAGAs into believing China, Brasil, etc would somehow in some magical way pay the Import Taxes he raised on the goods Americans want or need to buy. That didn't happen, of course. So then he conned them into believing their paying those higher prices was reducing the trade deficit "the likes of which nobody has ever seen", so much that we were all going to get big fat refund checks from all that sweet foreign money "flowing into" America any minute now.

Now it turns out all those higher prices Americans have been paying for almost everything they want or need has not even lowered the trade deficit enough for everyone to get a refund check equal to the 24 cents difference per gallon of regular gas that has occurred over the past year and was clearly heading for under Biden during 2024 anyway.

Oh well. We tried.

The Rate of Inflation under Biden at the end of 2024 was 2. 9%. Under Trump at the end of 2025 it was 3%.

GDP Growth for all of 2024 under Biden was 2. 4%. For all of 2025 under Trump it was 2. 2%.

The Unemployment Rate at the January 2025 handoff to Trump was 4. 0%. Today, under Trump it is 4. 3%.

2. 2 - 2. 5 Million new jobs were created in 2024 under Biden.

181,000 new jobs created in 2025 under Trump.

For all the added and increased costs the American Consumers had to pay for products they wanted or needed thanks to Trump's Tariffs, the USA Trade Deficit barely budged in 2025.

However, China's Trade SURPLUS hit an all-time historic record high after Trump handed China so many of the American farmers' and manufacturers' international customers during his 2nd classic epic fail Trump "deal" that always puts America Last and our Adversaries First.

Now the American Working Men and Women, not China, are on the hook to refund $175 Billion to the importers who were forced to pay Trump's Unconstitutional Tariffs.

Still, MAGAs thank that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered for their vote shift from the Dem nominee to the Repub nominee in 2024, which gave Trump the presidency and is therefore solely responsible for the pathetic economic results cited above.

It should no longer be a mystery to anyone why a majority or clear plurality of poll respondents told HarvardCAPS / Harris, YouGov / Economist and Rasmussen they thought Joe Biden performed better as President than Donald Trump.

Oh well. We tried.

[B]Fourth-quarter U.S. GDP up just 1.4%, badly missing estimate; inflation firms at 3%[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/20/pce-inflation-december-2025.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU9vPTvkQ7b/?igsh=MTExdmczeHJ4ZHBvMA==[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054]Hot damn, an energy discussion! [/QUOTE]Crickets! LOL!

WTF! What happened to that so called "energy debate", you were [B]"hot damning"[/B] about? What, all talk and no action?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3053060]I can see why Tiny quit responding to you. [/QUOTE]When did Elvis 2008, become the MAGA mouth piece for Tiny 12? The dude, Tiny 12, supposedly, doesn't even like the MAGA Fuhrer? LOL!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3053060]You just stated the price of a good has nothing to do with its cost. [/QUOTE]BTW, your dumbass LCOE question, is like saying, [I]"...because I brought brand new inexpensively priced ICE car, then auto-magically, the price I pay gasoline is going to be low"...LOL![/I] (ie. One has nothing to do with the other!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3053060]I was bitching because the solar panels and battery falied while the fossil fuels did not. I don't get your analogy. I said my solar and battery failed. I understand the plan of the Pakistani farmer but you failed to mention whether their solar panels were reliable or did the panels fail when they were most needed like with everyone else.[/QUOTE]Why am I not surprised you don't get the analogy?

Dude, the Pakistani farmers and people have been bitching about, how the a high price and expensive fossil fueled grid and generator diesel fuel, have been failing them, where solar and batteries have solved their problems. The exact opposite of your RV first world problems, which YOU can't solve, [B]given all the available resources in a first world country, at your disposal.[/B] It almost borders on pathetic!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053263]When did Elvis 2008, become the MAGA mouth piece for Tiny 12? The dude, Tiny 12, supposedly, doesn't even like the MAGA Fuhrer? LOL![/QUOTE]Man, you really are a follower. You cannot even talk energy without discussing presidential politics.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053263]BTW, your dumbass LCOE question. The exact opposite of your RV first world problems, which YOU can't solve.[/QUOTE]Yawn. I ask you a question and you do not answer it. Then you go back on the attack again. The reason alternative energy is not reliable is I am a dumb ass. All that is important is your screwed up head is the Democrats are right and if Harris, who is so stupid, would be president everything would be great.

Why am I not surprised you don't get the analogy?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053263]Dude, the Pakistani farmers and people have been bitching about, how the a high price and expensive fossil fueled grid and generator diesel fuel, have been failing them, where solar and batteries have solved their problems.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you would see it that way. Here are alternative points of view to your rosy picture. Pakistan's power grid threatened by growing adoption of Chinese solar panels, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCLYOIr-UE[/URL]

Why Pakistan's Solar Revolution Backfired, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2JrsEoZTM&t=62s[/URL]

What dumb ass response will you come up to these videos? I will go with the never mind approach where you deem it is not worthy of your time. Or maybe you will take it on and weave into the Fuhrer, MAGA, QAnon, Epstein horseshit. I am not sure what those have to do with Pakistani energy or my RV batteries not working as they should, but I am confident you can find it way to work it in.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3053092]Welp. There goes our Two Weeks TACO Trump Tariffs refund checks!

[B]U.S. trade deficit totaled $901 billion in 2025, barely budging despite Trump tariffs[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/19/us-trade-deficit-totaled-901-billion-in-2025-despite-trumps-tariffs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

He conned dumb Repub hillbilly MAGAs into believing China, Brasil, etc would somehow in some magical way pay the Import Taxes he raised on the goods Americans want or need to buy. That didn't happen, of course. So then he conned them into believing their paying those higher prices was reducing the trade deficit "the likes of which nobody has ever seen", so much that we were all going to get big fat refund checks from all that sweet foreign money "flowing into" America any minute now.

Now it turns out all those higher prices Americans have been paying for almost everything they want or need has not even lowered the trade deficit enough for everyone to get a refund check equal to the 24 cents difference per gallon of regular gas that has occurred over the past year and was clearly heading for under Biden during 2024 anyway.

Oh well. We tried.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/mamdani-shoveling-snow-volunteers/2026/02/22/id/1247031/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3053566][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/mamdani-shoveling-snow-volunteers/2026/02/22/id/1247031/[/URL][/QUOTE]I assume the Identification asked for is to make sure their paycheck is made out to the person doing the job.

Identifications for alcohol, gun purchases, etc are meant to prove WHO the person is or HOW OLD the person is, nothing to do with proving where they were born, their citizenship or even the exact date and place of birth as the Voter Identification cultists are always demanding.

That latter form of Identification, as in a passport or a notarized and certified birth certificate, is simply not something millions and millions of American Citizens have on hand. And since it costs money to purchase one, renew a passport or to have a birth certificate notarized or certified, it amounts to a "poll tax" one must pay in order to vote.

Which is illegal.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3051054]Hot damn, an energy discussion![/QUOTE][I]Hot Damn...LOL![/I]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3053362] The reason alternative energy is not reliable is I am a dumb ass. All that is important is your screwed up head is the Democrats are right and if Harris, who is so stupid, would be president everything would be great. [/QUOTE]In the 58% clean wind energy state of South Dakota, regulators just approved a 3/4 billion dollar, 333-megawatt wind farm, and will be the largest in the state, spread across approximately 110 square miles of private land.

[B]South Dakota (SD)regulators approve wind farm that will be the largest in the state,[/B] February 13,2026. [URL]https://southdakotasearchlight.com/briefs/south-dakota-regulators-approve-wind-farm-that-will-be-the-largest-in-the-state/[/URL]

So despite [B]the pedo sympathizer president's loud mouth,[/B] mad king MAGA sucker politics, and opposition to "money-losing" wind farms, the economic and business math on the ground, is proving to be stronger and more profitable, than all the dumbass MAGA windmill rhetoric and tells a very different energy success story, even in ruby red MAGA Repub states, like SD, Iowa, Kansas and Texas.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3053231]The Rate of Inflation under Biden at the end of 2024 was 2. 9%. Under Trump at the end of 2025 it was 3%.

GDP Growth for all of 2024 under Biden was 2. 4%. For all of 2025 under Trump it was 2. 2%.

The Unemployment Rate at the January 2025 handoff to Trump was 4. 0%. Today, under Trump it is 4. 3%.

2. 2 - 2. 5 Million new jobs were created in 2024 under Biden.

181,000 new jobs created in 2025 under Trump.

For all the added and increased costs the American Consumers had to pay for products they wanted or needed thanks to Trump's Tariffs, the USA Trade Deficit barely budged in 2025.

However, China's Trade SURPLUS hit an all-time historic record high after Trump handed China so many of the American farmers' and manufacturers' international customers during his 2nd classic epic fail Trump "deal" that always puts America Last and our Adversaries First.

Now the American Working Men and Women, not China, are on the hook to refund $175 Billion to the importers who were forced to pay Trump's Unconstitutional Tariffs..[/QUOTE]When Trump is 80 yo, but making money for himself, same than when he started and not paying tax, but Americans pay now for his tax from his craziness, when justice and court keep on cancelling his from senility decisions. He is too old and turning crazy since years, like for Capitol. Lost jobs, inflation, USD fall and bad image for Americans, really bad MAGA, but more MANGA, make America not great again, under crazy Trump.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3053362]Yeah, you would see it that way. Here are alternative points of view to your rosy picture. Pakistan's power grid threatened by growing adoption of Chinese solar panels, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCLYOIr-UE[/URL]

Why Pakistan's Solar Revolution Backfired, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2JrsEoZTM&t=62s[/URL][/QUOTE]Instead of just posting random videos out of your ass, why don't you properly explain, how exactly this solar revolution has backfired on Pakistanis, when they have been marred in a culmination of three decades of ill-conceived policies, corruption, and a lack of long-term planning, that has resulted in a perfect storm of policy failures, soaring electricity prices, blackouts and bad contracts? [URL]https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/pakistans-power-crisis-a-perfect-storm-of-policy-failures/[/URL].

What you obviously don't understand, is that the prevailing and antithetical view on the Pakistani Solar Revolution, is that Chinese solar panels has pulled millions of Pakistanis out of electricity poverty and has enhanced the national grid's reliability. [B]Pakistans Solar Revolution Is Bringing Power to the People,[/B] June 25th, 2025 [URL]https://e360.yale.edu/features/pakistan-solar-boom[/URL].

No doubt your idiotic MAGA fossil fuel ideology, would want the Pakistanis go back to blackouts, power grid failures and highly expensive power bills? While dismissing the decades of mismanagement of gas / LNG contracts, by gov't and utility firms, are the very issues, that have been the cause of poor and failing grid.

[QUOTE][b]Pakistans Energy Betrayal: Decades Of Mismanaged Contracts Cast Shadow On Nation.[/b] September 27, 2025

"Take-or-pay contracts were accepted, sovereign guarantees were surrendered, and arbitration clauses were shipped to London. They called it reform, they called it modernisation, they called it progress. In reality, they signed chains around the state. Three decades later, those chains weigh heavier than ever, [b]with nearly every year billions flowing to Independent Power Producers (IPPs), feeding the monster of circular debt. What was meant to illuminate Pakistan has instead cast a shadow across generations.[/b]"
...

"The tragedy grows bitterer when we recall the slogans of salvation. Foreign-qualified champions of liquefied natural gas (LNG) and coal-fired projects arrived, promising that imported fuels would change the fate of Pakistan."

[url]https://thefridaytimes.com/27-Sep-2025/pakistan-s-energy-betrayal-decades-mismanaged-contracts-cast-shadow-nation[/url][/QUOTE]The only people that the Pakistan solar revolution has backfired on, is the power utility companies and their bad contracts. I can't wait to see the Pakistanis, now move to more personal and community battery storage and keep the electricity they generate.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, but probably not what you think. If you've ever been publicly critical of Donald Trump, you've probably been accused of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" by his followers. But what if that phrase actually reveals more about the movement using it than the people it's aimed at? A peer-reviewed study by Franks and Hesami (2021) set out to test this exact claim: that critics of Trump suffer from an irrational hostility that prevents objective thinking, "TDS". Across multiple experiments, the researchers examined whether political bias toward Trump is symmetrical, meaning, whether both supporters and critics distort information in similar ways. Their findings suggest otherwise.

Trump's detractors did not show consistent patterns of reflexive opposition. In fact, they tended to evaluate statements more independently of Trump's involvement. By contrast, Trump supporters were significantly more likely to shift their views depending on whether they believed Trump held a particular position, even when that position contradicted their previous beliefs. In one experiment, participants adjusted their stance on voting procedures depending on whether the outcome favored Trump, revealing a willingness to reinterpret even democratic norms in light of loyalty. Yes, supporters would cheat in elections to get Trump back in office.

In other words, the evidence does not support the idea that critics are uniquely "deranged". Instead, it points to an asymmetry of loyalty in supporters, where allegiance to the leader can outweigh consistency, evidence, and even previously held convictions. That should give us pause. Because "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is real, but not in the way it's commonly used. It's not primarily about people who are too critical. It's about a system that trains people to dismiss critique altogether when it threatens loyalty. When disagreement is labeled as derangement, you no longer have to engage the argument. You can ignore the evidence. You can protect the narrative.

Think of how we are watching this play out in real time. Donald Trump has been convicted on 34 felony counts in New York, and independent fact-checking organizations have documented tens of thousands of false or misleading claims during his public life. He has also been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation in civil court, and his name appears thousands of times in the Epstein Files, even after heavy redactions by his DOJ. Yet allegiance among his core supporters has remained remarkably stable. And once that pattern takes hold, real derangement sets in. Truth is no longer something we test and evaluate in light of evidence. It becomes something we defend for our side.

Facts are no longer evaluated on their merits; they are filtered through identity. If it helps our team, it's true enough. If it challenges us, it must be biased, corrupt, or fake. At that point, you're no longer arguing about ideas. You're protecting a distorted reality. That's why fact-checking so often fails. It assumes people are asking, "Is this true"? But in many cases, the deeper question has already been decided: "Is this loyal"? And when loyalty becomes the standard, truth becomes negotiable. This is the real derangement. And it is dangerous. Trump's followers would tear up and trample upon the Constitution if they felt that was the loyal thing to do. Their loyalty is to Trump no matter what. And not the law of the land.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053628]Trump Derangement Syndrome is real ... actually reveals more about the movement using it than the people it's aimed at? A peer-reviewed study by Franks and Hesami (2021) set out to test this exact claim: that critics of Trump suffer from an irrational hostility that prevents objective thinking, "TDS".

... It's not primarily about people who are too critical. It's about a system that trains people to dismiss critique altogether when it threatens loyalty. [b]When disagreement is labeled as derangement, you no longer have to engage the argument. [/b]You can ignore the evidence. You can protect the narrative. ... [/QUOTE]Thanks a ton, for the brilliant Franks and Hesami [I]"clinical" TDS analysis,[/I] on what looks to be a pretty good and comprehensive study! This is much appreciated!

Put simply though, it backs up what many of us here at ISG, refer to as, [I][b]"gullible MAGA suckers".[/b] No study needed...LOL![/I]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053628]Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, but probably not what you think. If you've ever been publicly critical of Donald Trump, you've probably been accused of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" by his followers. But what if that phrase actually reveals more about the movement using it than the people it's aimed at? A peer-reviewed study by Franks and Hesami (2021) set out to test this exact claim: that critics of Trump suffer from an irrational hostility that prevents objective thinking, "TDS". Across multiple experiments, the researchers examined whether political bias toward Trump is symmetrical, meaning, whether both supporters and critics distort information in similar ways. Their findings suggest otherwise.

Trump's detractors did not show consistent patterns of reflexive opposition. In fact, they tended to evaluate statements more independently of Trump's involvement. By contrast, Trump supporters were significantly more likely to shift their views depending on whether they believed Trump held a particular position, even when that position contradicted their previous beliefs. In one experiment, participants adjusted their stance on voting procedures depending on whether the outcome favored Trump, revealing a willingness to reinterpret even democratic norms in light of loyalty. Yes, supporters would cheat in elections to get Trump back in office..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/newsom-says-hes-blacks-because-he-cant-read-and-got-low-sat-score[/URL]

Armageddon was supposed to happen over the weekend, instead it was just snow. But I'm still looking forward to World War 3.

When nukes?

I'm going to wait until I do my taxes, cause imagine all that pain in the ass paper processing for taxes and we all get mercifully vaporized by nukes. But I really want to book my flight to Thailand though.

This is tough. Why spend the money on flights when the world is going to end soon?

Can't really decide now. Imagine the egg on my face if I don't book the flights and the world doesn't end?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053628]Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, but probably not what you think. If you've ever been publicly critical of Donald Trump, you've probably been accused of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" by his followers. But what if that phrase actually reveals more about the movement using it than the people it's aimed at? A peer-reviewed study by Franks and Hesami (2021) set out to test this exact claim: that critics of Trump suffer from an irrational hostility that prevents objective thinking, "TDS". Across multiple experiments, the researchers examined whether political bias toward Trump is symmetrical, meaning, whether both supporters and critics distort information in similar ways. Their findings suggest otherwise.

Trump's detractors did not show consistent patterns of reflexive opposition. In fact, they tended to evaluate statements more independently of Trump's involvement. By contrast, Trump supporters were significantly more likely to shift their views depending on whether they believed Trump held a particular position, even when that position contradicted their previous beliefs. In one experiment, participants adjusted their stance on voting procedures depending on whether the outcome favored Trump, revealing a willingness to reinterpret even democratic norms in light of loyalty. Yes, supporters would cheat in elections to get Trump back in office..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/08/28/landmark-study-suggests-most-psychology-studies-dont-yield-reproducible-results[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3053738]Armageddon was supposed to happen over the weekend, instead it was just snow. But I'm still looking forward to World War 3.

When nukes?

I'm going to wait until I do my taxes, cause imagine all that pain in the ass paper processing for taxes and we all get mercifully vaporized by nukes. But I really want to book my flight to Thailand though.

This is tough. Why spend the money on flights when the world is going to end soon?

Can't really decide now. Imagine the egg on my face if I don't book the flights and the world doesn't end?[/QUOTE]You should have slept outside in street on East coast, when you look so much forward to die. Or do like the one who tried to enter Trump castle.

The MAGA Fuhrer, rails against SCOTUS's decision to strike down the tariffs, and frames the decision as something of [B]a "disloyal" act.[/B] he called the three (3) SCOTUS that voted against his argument, as, [I]"...fools and lapdogs for the RINOs and the 'radical' left Democrats...very unpatriotic and disloyal our Constitution."[/I].

[B]Supreme Court strikes down Trumps sweeping tariffs, sparking fierce pushback and vow of new levies,[/B] February 22,2026 [URL]https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-tariffs-trump-0485fcda30a7310501123e4931dba3f9[/URL].

This rambling, bumbling speech (as am sure the SOTU speech will be), addresses the narcissist pedo sympathizer president, who was again claiming [I][b]"loyalty above all"[/b] (as if were Game of Thrones)[/I] despite 2/3 of SCOTUS ruled against his dumbass tariffs according the Constitution.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053628] "In other words, the evidence does not support the idea that critics are uniquely "deranged". [b]Instead, it points to an asymmetry of loyalty in supporters, where allegiance to the leader can outweigh consistency, evidence, and even previously held convictions. [/b]That should give us pause. Because "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is real, but not in the way it's commonly used."[/QUOTE]Yes, TDS (but not in the way you imagine), once again proving that, the peer-reviewed study by Franks and Hesami (2021), is very much correct in it's analysis, that MAGA Nation in their decision making, behavior and twisted beliefs are [I][b]based on some fake sense of "MAGA loyalty"[/b][/I] and [U]NOT on the Rule of Law, Constitutional Law, or any principal of law, human rights, equality or decency. [/U]

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3053732][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/newsom-says-hes-blacks-because-he-cant-read-and-got-low-sat-score[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.latintimes.com/political-activist-cornel-west-accuses-governor-newsom-reinforcing-core-pillars-white-supremacy-595013[/URL]

Everybody's saying that we're just one or 2 days away from WW3 folks, so just keep your panties on. I'm on a Korean horror movie kick right now, have basically watched them all, and I'm almost ready to book my flight to Thailand. But with the end of the world just around the corner, should I still fly? Hmmmm.

God, there's still so much sexual stuff I want to do. I've never had 3 girls at once. I've yet to experience 2 chicks giving me a blowjob at once. Fucking a hijab babe. But life is misery anyway, might as well finally die.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053628]A peer-reviewed study by Franks and Hesami (2021) set out to test this exact claim: that critics of Trump suffer from an irrational hostility that prevents objective thinking, "TDS". Across multiple experiments, the researchers examined whether political bias toward Trump is symmetrical, meaning, whether both supporters and critics distort information in similar ways. Their findings suggest otherwise.[/QUOTE]Amazing that the actual study was not linked. Well, here you go. [URL]https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/11/3/113[/URL]

The scientific method is to make a hypothesis, gather data, and see if the hypothesis fits the data. The irony is you already lost me with the title of the study: Seeking Evidence of The MAGA Cult and Trump Derangement Syndrome.

You have just lost me with the title in that your assumption is anyone who votes for Trump is in a cult. As for the evidence of a cult there is this, "It's no longer a political party. It's a cult. " -Former Republican Representative Mickey Edwards on leaving the Republican Party (January 2021). Wow! Well, that sure is scientific.

And how many people were polled in this study? Using Amazon's Mechanical Turk (mTurk) system and limiting enrollment in the study to "Master Workers" in the United States, 394 participants (Mage = 34.95, SD = 13.56) were recruited and paid USD 0. 50 for completing the study.

Oh, well, that is good. And let me guess, these so called scientists even found a way to reject results they didn't like: Accordingly, data collection was halted shortly afterward, with some additional leeway for the possibility of some participants failing attention checks.

Cane, the fact that you would believe such a stupid and poorly denied study shows how badly your TDS is. Thing that kills me is any other grouping like women, blacks, hispanics, or overweight people and you would be screaming from the rooftops about racism, sexism, or fat shaming. But if it is a group of Trump voters, it is okay. That shows that you suffer from TDS.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053628] Donald Trump has been convicted on 34 felony counts in New York[/QUOTE]It was the same count listed 34 times that was beyond the statue of limitations and was used to influence an election. It was the state of New York and its jurors going way out of their lane to try to choose who should be president for the rest of us and in a case where the head of the FEC was not allowed to testify. The two star witnesses were a felon, who would say anything for personal gain, and a porn star who owes Trump close to a million dollars.

And your take is the 77 millions people who voted for Trump do not have any respect for the law? LOL. No, those 77 million Americans had no respect for the law you TDS Democrats made up and used to try to convict him.

If this whole fiasco was not political, please tell me why Trump is not in jail? If he was a real criminal who could personally do harm to his fellow citizen, he should have been put in jail. Instead, all you dumb Dems do is say he is a convicted felon to try to score political points.

But if you have not noticed, SCOTUS, which is dominated by Republicans, actually did say Trump went too far with his tariffs. In principle, I liked Trump's tariffs, but he employed them like a spoiled Hollywood actress.

He is also pushing the outer edges with his foreign policy. After killing the head of the Jalisco Cartel and seizing Maduro, the latest Trump escapade involves taking out a string of mullahs in Iran. What happened to America first?

I also do not like the switch in gears whenever the news is somewhat negative. After a few bad headlines, DOGE was put to the sideline as was all the Somali fraud in Minnesota. It is like he threw up his hands and said "I am more popular when I spend money so let's go back to that. ".

Despite all that, I do not regret my vote because the alternative was Kamala Harris, and you have TDS to the Nth degree if you think she would have been a better president than Trump, and this is after you fools put into office a guy with dementia and stage 4 prostate cancer.

I don't see many Dems saying you know we should have a fair primary process and see which candidate resonates with voters. You Dems have not had a fair primary process since 2012 IMO. Hell, this last primary season there was no hiding the candidate was picked by Democratic elites. And Kamala's entire campaing slogan may have been, "I am not Trump". Voting for Trump was not just voting for Trump. It was saying that citizens voting actually mattered. Thing about the Epstein files is we see how perverted the elites really are.

I and I have a feeling most of America is in the mood for some boring bureaucrat who gets the trains to run on time and gets us back to a time where performance and not personality wins the day.

Bill Maher showed sympathy for the Trump voter when he / she said voting for Trump was a vote against all the woke insanity that Maher hates so much. How about you guys nominate someone qualified and not crazy? You know like maybe not a guy with dementia or a hooker who sucks down wine by the gallon? Then we will not have to vote for a narcissist. If you have not noticed, Trump's support has been dropping like a stone. That is hardly the behavior of a cult.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053730]Thanks a ton, for the brilliant Franks and Hesami [I]"clinical" TDS analysis,[/I] on what looks to be a pretty good and comprehensive study! This is much appreciated!

Put simply though, it backs up what many of us here at ISG, refer to as, [I][b]"gullible MAGA suckers".[/b] No study needed...LOL![/I][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/02/25/schweizer-how-the-left-is-brainwashing-america-featuring-buck-sexton/[/URL]

Schweizer: How the Left Is Brainwashing America, Featuring Buck Sexton.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3053622]Instead of just posting random videos out of your ass...

What you obviously don't understand, is that the prevailing and antithetical view on the Pakistani Solar Revolution, is that Chinese solar panels has pulled millions of Pakistanis out of electricity poverty and has enhanced the national grid's reliability. https://e360.yale.edu/features/pakistan-solar-boom. No doubt your idiotic MAGA fossil fuel ideology, would want the Pakistanis go back to blackouts, power grid failures and highly expensive power bills[/QUOTE]Let's go back to what I say. I prefer what is going on in Texas. Use alternative energy when it is cost effective but understand its limitations. Do not push alternative energy up people's noses. Respect the fact that fossil fuels and nukes are more reliable than alternative energy and there is a 100 year infrastructure built up to support it.

Understand that places like Texas who have used common sense policy have much cheaper energy prices than the places like California and Europe who said if we did not stop using fossil fuels, the world as we know it would end. I asked you why if alternative energy was cheaper why do places who use more of it have more expensive energy costs, and you said the cost of production and energy prices had nothing to do with each other.

Then like the principleless dumb Dem you are, you go right back to how solar is cheaper and people are paying less for electricity in Pakistan which is totally wrong. Why you are so dumb is you did not even read your own fucking article, Amjad: Over the past year we've seen a 4 to 5 percent decrease in grid demand. As more people defect from the grid, the total costs are shared by a smaller number of consumers. So grid electricity gets more expensive, and more consumers leave.

That is the EXACT same point those "random" videos I posted made.

Yes, the rich people who can buy solar panels are doing great. They have gone away from state controlled electricity and generated power on their own which is cheaper for them. The poor people dependent on the grid are getting fucked. That is the opposite of what you said.

And you keep using the word state in what you want: petrostate, electrostate. The reality is that it was state involvement that made the Pakistani grid suck so badly. And as more people leave the grid, the less money it makes, and the less secure it will be, and the one thing everyone in the videos and your article states is that policies need to change as this problem is getting worse and worse.

But you keep droning on with your envirocult binary behavior: alternative energies good, fossil fuels bad.

And your dumb ass keeps going on about MAGA and fossil fuels. Everyone wants reliable energy, and you cannot get it through your thick skull that fossil fuels are more reliable than alternative energy. And if you were living on the East Coast of the USA being pelted with blizzard after blizzard versus living on a beach in Brazil or an apartment in Thailand, you would fucking get that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3054064]... than the places like California and ...[/QUOTE]To be fair, we don't have high electricity prices because we are weak, sloppy Democratic hippies, it's because we allowed the monopoly power supplier (PG&E) to deregulate in 1997 and them bailed them out of two subsequent bankruptcies caused by their greed and incompetence, letting them pass their capital costs to the hapless ratepayers.

So rather than taking the "off ramp" to the historically bad decisions on tariffs (that SCOTUS nicely laid out for him), the arrogant con man, grifter, charlatan and pedo sympathizer MAGA president, decides to double-down with more tariffs.

But like I've said in the past, [B]...it's all a grift.[/B] The ONLY THING the MAGA Fuhrer is upset about, is the fact that he may no longer be able to receive a shit-ton of bribes, gifts and tributes from dignitaries, CEOs, billionaires or high profile business leaders, looking to coddle up to him and curry favor for tariff exemptions, carveouts [I]and/or[/I] special dispensations, like he once did.

So while the gullible MAGA suckers, will still stand behind his dumbass tariffs, despite the SCOTUS' ruling, they still don't get it. The fact remains, tariffs have always been, his personal pick-pocketing grift, golden goose and treasure chest.

The "tariff" grift, pick-pocket scheme and pilfering, from the American people, along with tributary bribes from dignitaries sucking-up, kowtowing and bending the knee, has ALWAYS been [I][b]his own sick fantasy of leverage over his perceived enemies and his own personal golden goose.[/b][/I]

The MAGA Menosphere is going ballastic over the Epstein cover up, as brand new alleged evidence of a pedo activity from an 2019 FBI interview is uncovered and said to be connected to the pedo sympathizer MAGA Fuhrer.

[B]Bombshell Epstein File Reveals FBI Interviewed Underage Trump Accuser,[/B] February. 17 2026. [B]Daily Beast:[/B] [I]"The FBI interviewed a Jeffrey Epstein victim who alleged that President Donald Trump sexually abused her when she was a teenager, documents from the Justice Department file dump revealed."[/I] [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-interviewed-underage-trump-accuser-bombshell-epstein-file-reveals/[/URL].

From outcast Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor (aka. Pedo Prince Andy) arrested in the UK, to wannbe kings, as the Brit tabloid headlines read, [I]"Not even princes are above the law"[/I] and neither should corrupt unlawful kings.

Also Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayam resigned from DP World, the former Norwegian Prime Minister, charged with gross corruption, Peter Mandelson fired as ambassador and step-down from the House of Lords, Kathryn Ruemmuler step-down from Goldman Sachs and many other notable accountability around the world.

[U]Meanwhile back in the U.S.[/U]

[I]"Nothing to see here...", LOL! Looks like [b]DOJ "Bimbo"[/b] Bondi and [b]FBI "Crap" Patel,[/b] got some explaining to do!B]P.S.:[/B] Will an attack on Iran, be the key to diverting attention, from the newly alleged pedo MAGA president's accusations?

Your post not only supports the conclusion that Trumpism / MAGA is a cult, but it also supports the conclusion that you are still a card-carrying, certified member in good standing of that cult.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3054062]You have just lost me with the title in that your assumption is anyone who votes for Trump is in a cult. As for the evidence of a cult there is this, "It's no longer a political party. It's a cult. " -Former Republican Representative Mickey Edwards on leaving the Republican Party (January 2021). Wow! Well, that sure is scientific.

Despite all that, I do not regret my vote because the alternative was Kamala Harris, and you have TDS to the Nth degree if you think she would have been a better president than Trump, and this is after you fools put into office a guy with dementia and stage 4 prostate cancer.

I don't see many Dems saying you know we should have a fair primary process and see which candidate resonates with voters. You Dems have not had a fair primary process since 2012 IMO. Hell, this last primary season there was no hiding the candidate was picked by Democratic elites. And Kamala's entire campaing slogan may have been, "I am not Trump". Voting for Trump was not just voting for Trump. It was saying that citizens voting actually mattered. Thing about the Epstein files is we see how perverted the elites really are.

I and I have a feeling most of America is in the mood for some boring bureaucrat who gets the trains to run on time and gets us back to a time where performance and not personality wins the day.

Bill Maher showed sympathy for the Trump voter when he / she said voting for Trump was a vote against all the woke insanity that Maher hates so much. How about you guys nominate someone qualified and not crazy? You know like maybe not a guy with dementia or a hooker who sucks down wine by the gallon? Then we will not have to vote for a narcissist. If you have not noticed, Trump's support has been dropping like a stone. That is hardly the behavior of a cult. [/QUOTE]You proudly parrot the Trumpism / MAGA Cult BS about Biden's mental state then or now, his medical diagnosis, Harris' supposed alcoholic incapacity, blah, blah, blah, contrary to all available evidence and easily observable reality that your Cult has been hanging onto like rats on a rafter to excuse or justify your disastrous and traitorous vote for The Worst President in USA History and despite all of the available evidence and data showing Biden's 1 term was better for America, its economy and National Security than any "best" month of the Trump so-called presidency the first time around and this time around.

Life-long Republican attorney and Trump appointee Robert Hur spent hours interviewing Biden in 2024 and did not find or report one iota of evidence that Joe Biden had dementia or any cognitive incapacity despite tremendous pressure from his side to do so or that he was incapable of making better informed, smarter and more effective Presidential decisions, the purpose of the job, than Trump ever made on any day of his life. And there has been no credible report or evidence presented that supports your BS about Kamala Harris not being more fit to be President than Trump ever was and certainly more than he is now.

That, Sir, is a Cult. And the fact that you can't admit you made a grave mistake in voting for Trump any of the times he ran for president based on the BS you have been fed by that Cult and its Dear Leader proves you are a member of that Cult committed to being willfully ignorant about what plenty of other Americans now realize was an election they sorely wish could be done over.

You're even hanging on to the Trumpism / MAGA Cult BS for why there was not an inter-Party primary battle over the nomination when Harris the only candidate that would have access to the millions and millions of Biden-Harris campaign dollar donations heading into the election. As though it was somehow undemocratic for the opposition to your beloved Trumpism / MAGA Cult candidate not to run a campaign with little or no money against your guy who hadn't been doing anything other than making the worst presidential decisions in USA History, playing golf and campaigning for re-election since 12:01 PM on January 20,2017.

And for all we know, none of the poll respondents in the several credible polling services who are now stating in the majority or a clear plurality that if the election were held again today they would vote for Joe Biden or Kamala Harris are supposedly "former" Trumpism / MAGA Cult members. They could very well simply include the millions of 2020 Biden voters who sat out the 2024 election because they were just fine with their financial situation thanks to the historic Biden-Harris recovery from the colossal mess of Trump's Pandemic and some who had been bamboozled by classic pro-Repub pretend "bothsider / neithersiders" into believing it really doesn't matter all that much who is president or which Party they identify with.

Man, they have really learned the folly of allowing themselves to be bamboozled into believing that catastrophic lie.

"Woke insanity"? LOL. More proof you are in the Cult. Bill Maher is a liar, devoted to helping Repubs win elections by any means necessary and by any razor-thin margin necessary since he provided that function in 2000 for GW Bush then again and again for Trump all three times he ran and squeaked out his two wins.

MAGA Bill Maher has never met a Democrat in any position to legislate or pass a law allowing children to choose a sex-change, never met one who thinks "men can get pregnant", never met one who wants to "defund the police" and on and on and on. But he campaigns for Repubs every week on his show to help the Bushes and the Trumps win elections on that premise as though it had ever happened, which it hasn't.

Only devoted Trumpism / MAGA Cult members believe and cite the lies MAGA Bill Maher tells on behalf of his beloved Repub Party every week.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3054062]If you have not noticed, Trump's support has been dropping like a stone. That is hardly the behavior of a cult.[/QUOTE]Trump's core base (his "cult" of which you are a part) has consistently remained around 35% nationally. And in case you haven't noticed, his overall approval rating remains above that. So, his cult-like core remains with him. Of course you don't see it as a cult. That's because you're deep in it, constantly blinded by the Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) of which you and the rest of his sycophants sadly suffer. It's among the independents who he's been able to dupe twice that his support has really fallen. Scam an independent once, and that's on a Trumptard. But scam an independent twice, and that's on a stupid independent voter.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/02/23/donald-trump-approval-rating/88176174007/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3054127]The MAGA Menosphere is going ballastic over the Epstein cover up, as brand new alleged evidence of a pedo activity from an 2019 FBI interview is uncovered and said to be connected to the pedo sympathizer MAGA Fuhrer.

[B]Bombshell Epstein File Reveals FBI Interviewed Underage Trump Accuser,[/B] February. 17 2026. [B]Daily Beast:[/B] [I]"The FBI interviewed a Jeffrey Epstein victim who alleged that President Donald Trump sexually abused her when she was a teenager, documents from the Justice Department file dump revealed."[/I] [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-interviewed-underage-trump-accuser-bombshell-epstein-file-reveals/[/URL].

From outcast Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor (aka. Pedo Prince Andy) arrested in the UK, to wannbe kings, as the Brit tabloid headlines read, [I]"Not even princes are above the law"[/I] and neither should corrupt unlawful kings.

Also Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayam resigned from DP World, the former Norwegian Prime Minister, charged with gross corruption, Peter Mandelson fired as ambassador and step-down from the House of Lords, Kathryn Ruemmuler step-down from Goldman Sachs and many other notable accountability around the world.

[U]Meanwhile back in the U.S.[/U]

[I]"Nothing to see here...", LOL! Looks like [b]DOJ "Bimbo"[/b] Bondi and [b]FBI "Crap" Patel,[/b] got some explaining to do!B]P.S.:[/B] Will an attack on Iran, be the key to diverting attention, from the newly alleged pedo MAGA president's accusations?[/QUOTE]Having had business with pedocriminal Epstein don't mean to be a pedocriminal, but what about 4 women who complain Trump abused them when they were under majority? This would be pedocriminality? Isn't ICE investigating about this? Rather than killing.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054169]You proudly parrot the Trumpism / MAGA Cult BS about Biden's mental state then or now[/QUOTE]MAGA didn't drop Biden from the ticket. You dumb Dems did that on your own ignoring the will of your voters. This is classic TDS, blaming Trump when the only he did was kick Biden's ass during a debate.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054169]Harris' supposed alcoholic incapacity, blah, blah, blah, contrary to all available evidence[/QUOTE]Again, this is from your side. [URL]https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/obama-pelosi-did-not-want-harris-democratic-megadonor/[/URL]

LOL. Again, from your side, Democratic megadonor John Morgan joined "CUOMO" on Monday night to discuss the failed Harris-Walz campaign, claiming former President Barack Obama and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not want Vice President Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee to replace President Joe Biden.

Biden stepped down from the presidential race in July, amid pressure from high-ranking Democratic figures. He endorsed Harris no less than an hour later, while former President Obama took five days to endorse Harris on his X page.

"he did not want to go gently," Morgan said of Biden. "he nominated her, basically Obama did not want her. Obama did not endorse her for five days, Pelosi did not want her."

According to Morgan, Biden's endorsement of Harris was an "F you" to Obama and Pelosi.

"Pelosi told her California delegation, there will be a conference, there will be a caucus, there will be a convention," Morgan said, a point touched upon by many Republican politicians and commentators during the process. "We basically ran on this deal where 'democracy, democracy!' And then we didn't have democracy in picking our nominee. "

Morgan, who admitted he did not personally donate to Harris's campaign, criticized the way the campaign handled its funds, saying it could put her presidential future in doubt.

Morgan's critique comes amid multiple reports the Harris campaign is $20 million in debt after a lavish spending spree.

The megadonor claimed those alleged squandered campaign funds should permanently disqualify her from running for president again.

"The same thing is going to follow Harris for the rest of her career. She cannot be trusted with the money, and the donors are going to be, like, 'Where is this money? He said.

And let me guess your cult like answer Tooms. You are going to blast this guy Morgan like you do Bill Maher. Yeah, anyone who criticizes the Democratic party is a bothsider to you because you are in a cult.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054169]Life-long Republican attorney and Trump appointee Robert Hur spent hours interviewing Biden in 2024 and did not find or report one iota of evidence that Joe Biden had dementia or any cognitive incapacity[/QUOTE]And here we go again. Hur said Biden had a poor memory. Do people with dementia have good memories? And Oatmeal for Brains, you do not have to rely on Hur's word as the entire audio is available. When the American people saw Biden's performance in the debate, his numbers tanked, and you dumb Dems pulled him as your candidate. Your party said winning an election was more important what your own voters thought.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054169]You're even hanging on to the Trumpism / MAGA Cult BS for why there was not an inter-Party primary battle over the nomination when Harris the only candidate that would have access to the millions and millions of Biden-Harris campaign dollar donations heading into the election.[/QUOTE]That is the exact opposite of what John Morgan said. And Oatmeal for Brains, thanks for showing us that in your screwed up head that money was more important than following the will of the voters.

So after the impeachment crap, after the bogus criminal trial, after the civil lawsuits against Trump, once more, you show zero respect for the will of the voters. All your actions including sacking Biden showed you Democratic cultists have no respect for the voters.

Even after everything, 77 milllion people voted for Trump, and all you Democratic cultists do is call those voters stupid. People voted for Trump because they wanted their votes to count, and you Democrats wanted to win everywhere else but the ballot box.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054169]MAGA Bill Maher has never met a Democrat in any position to legislate or pass a law allowing children to choose a sex-change, never met one who thinks "men can get pregnant", never met one who wants to "defund the police" and on and on and on.[/QUOTE]MAGA Maher huh? More like Maher told you why the Democrats were going to lose and why they did lose. He wants the Democrats to go back to their liberal ways and away from the extreme wokeness and he is dead right. All you do is lie. The border was fine under Biden. We Dems did not want to defund the police or advocate for sex change surgeries. Give me a fucking break.

That Maher has the balls to tell the truth is what really irriates you Democratic cultists.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3054214]Trump's core base (his "cult" of which you are a part) has consistently remained around 35% nationally. And in case you haven't noticed, his overall approval rating remains above that. So, his cult-like core remains with him. Of course you don't see it as a cult. That's because you're deep in it, constantly blinded by the Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) of which you and the rest of his sycophants sadly suffer. It's among the independents who he's been able to dupe twice that his support has really fallen. Scam an independent once, and that's on a Trumptard. But scam an independent twice, and that's on a stupid independent voter.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/02/23/donald-trump-approval-rating/88176174007/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey, Cane, I just laid out some criticisms of Trump. Can you name any positives about Trump whatsoever? Or can you name any criticisms of Democrats ever? Because I have not seen either from you.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;3054113]To be fair, we don't have high electricity prices because we are weak, sloppy Democratic hippies, it's because we allowed the monopoly power supplier (PG&E) to deregulate in 1997 and them bailed them out of two subsequent bankruptcies caused by their greed and incompetence, letting them pass their capital costs to the hapless ratepayers.[/QUOTE]Sorry, JC, but other states deregulated utilities and are not paying near what California is. Bill Maher was griping about how it took him 2 years to put up solar panels.

Outside of a HOA in Texas whose rules vary tremendously, if you want solar panels in Texas, you just put them up, and there are efforts for even taking power away from HOAs to regulate solar panel instillation.

In California, I have just read it is mandated that buildings have solar panels, and with that, I am sure there all these sky high costing inspections and permits.

The problem with California is you keep shoving things down people's throats. Before solar panels, it was saying you could only have electric cars.

So no deregulation was not the problem. The way you guys handled deregulation was the problem. I have a hard time believing only a California utility was trying to screw people out of money, and every other utility in the country were angels.

This is it! World War III comin at ya within the next 72 hours. Possibly even tonight! Woooooooooooooh!

And there I was worried about when to book my flights, if I go to Thailand at all.

Look fellas, when the world is about to end, it really puts things into perspective, it makes you realize what's truly important in life. It's not stupid shit like friends or family. Its sex. Hardcore, nasty, dirty sweaty, filthy sex. Pound that chick doggy style!

What stocks do you think will do well in a World War 3 nuke scenario?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054169]Your post not only supports the conclusion that Trumpism / MAGA is a cult, but it also supports the conclusion that you are still a card-carrying, certified member in good standing of that cult.

You proudly parrot the Trumpism / MAGA Cult BS about Biden's mental state then or now, his medical diagnosis, Harris' supposed alcoholic incapacity, blah, blah, blah, contrary to all available evidence and easily observable reality that your Cult has been hanging onto like rats on a rafter to excuse or justify your disastrous and traitorous vote for The Worst President in USA History and despite all of the available evidence and data showing Biden's 1 term was better for America, its economy and National Security than any "best" month of the Trump so-called presidency the first time around and this time around.

Life-long Republican attorney and Trump appointee Robert Hur spent hours interviewing Biden in 2024 and did not find or report one iota of evidence that Joe Biden had dementia or any cognitive incapacity despite tremendous pressure from his side to do so or that he was incapable of making better informed, smarter and more effective Presidential decisions, the purpose of the job, than Trump ever made on any day of his life. And there has been no credible report or evidence presented that supports your BS about Kamala Harris not being more fit to be President than Trump ever was and certainly more than he is now.

That, Sir, is a Cult. And the fact that you can't admit you made a grave mistake in voting for Trump any of the times he ran for president based on the BS you have been fed by that Cult and its Dear Leader proves you are a member of that Cult committed to being willfully ignorant about what plenty of other Americans now realize was an election they sorely wish could be done over..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-slam-democrats-rigging-democrat-primaries[/URL]

After Gaza, criminal Netanyahou keeping on his war business, now attacking Iran and of course, Trump support his criminal friend. Really wish Israel will get rid of their criminal, when he is a very bad image for Israel, same like crazy Trump is a very bad image for USA. In FKKs, when I see a beauty but with bad image, usually due to her behavior in public, then I don t pay for her, when I hate vulgarity, not exciting me at all. I stopped with a FKK superstar after around 80 hours spent together during 10 months, but not anymore a good image for me. She didn't understand, I stopped like this, just because of her public behavior, when she was always great for me. Russia start to have big economical problems, because of Putin craziness, when he was not able to defeat poor Ukraine since 4 years, when Ukrainians are so courageous heroic.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3054385]MAGA didn't drop Biden from the ticket. You dumb Dems did that on your own ignoring the will of your voters. This is classic TDS, blaming Trump when the only he did was kick Biden's ass during a debate.

Again, this is from your side. [URL]https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/obama-pelosi-did-not-want-harris-democratic-megadonor/[/URL]

LOL. Again, from your side, Democratic megadonor John Morgan joined "CUOMO" on Monday night to discuss the failed Harris-Walz campaign, claiming former President Barack Obama and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not want Vice President Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee to replace President Joe Biden.

Biden stepped down from the presidential race in July, amid pressure from high-ranking Democratic figures. He endorsed Harris no less than an hour later, while former President Obama took five days to endorse Harris on his X page.

"he did not want to go gently," Morgan said of Biden. "he nominated her, basically Obama did not want her. Obama did not endorse her for five days, Pelosi did not want her."

According to Morgan, Biden's endorsement of Harris was an "F you" to Obama and Pelosi.

"Pelosi told her California delegation, there will be a conference, there will be a caucus, there will be a convention," Morgan said, a point touched upon by many Republican politicians and commentators during the process. "We basically ran on this deal where 'democracy, democracy!' And then we didn't have democracy in picking our nominee. "

Morgan, who admitted he did not personally donate to Harris's campaign, criticized the way the campaign handled its funds, saying it could put her presidential future in doubt.

Morgan's critique comes amid multiple reports the Harris campaign is $20 million in debt after a lavish spending spree.

The megadonor claimed those alleged squandered campaign funds should permanently disqualify her from running for president again.

"The same thing is going to follow Harris for the rest of her career. She cannot be trusted with the money, and the donors are going to be, like, 'Where is this money? He said.

And let me guess your cult like answer Tooms. You are going to blast this guy Morgan like you do Bill Maher. Yeah, anyone who criticizes the Democratic party is a bothsider to you because you are in a cult.

And here we go again. Hur said Biden had a poor memory. Do people with dementia have good memories? And Oatmeal for Brains, you do not have to rely on Hur's word as the entire audio is available. When the American people saw Biden's performance in the debate, his numbers tanked, and you dumb Dems pulled him as your candidate. Your party said winning an election was more important what your own voters thought..[/QUOTE]The pro Repub Mainstream Media and political donors that wanted Biden out are not "my side", you Demented MAGA Cult Member numbskull.

Hur's characterization of Biden likely coming across as an elderly man with a poor memory has zero to do with his fitness to serve as president, could easily have accurately applied to Eisenhower in 1953, Reagan in 1981 and is still better than a 79 year old who insists China pays our import taxes for us in the Trillions and mistook a photo of his sexual assault accuser for a photo of his ex-wife.

[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/heres-what-could-happen-next-as-biden-drops-out-and-endorses-harris-in-the-2024-race[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]What happens to Biden's campaign money?[/b]

Biden's campaign recently reported $91 million cash on hand. Allied Democratic campaign committees brought the total at his disposal to more than $240 million. [B]Campaign finance experts agree generally that Harris could control all those funds since the campaign was set up in her name as well as Biden's.[/b] If Democrats do nominate someone other than Harris, party accounts could still benefit the nominee, but the Biden-Harris account would have more restrictions. [B]For example, legal experts say it could become an independent expenditure political action committee but not simply transfer its balance to a different nominee.[/b][/QUOTE]MAGA Bill Maher repeats his beloved Repub MAGA Cult talking points about trannies, wokeism, regulation, law and order, etc, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary with raised voice, passionate, desk-pounding anger while discussing Trumpian MAGA's violent, cop-killing attempt to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate a few elected officials along the way, sending masked and armed marauders in America's most important cities to hassle, harass, shoot and kill law-abiding American Citizens because his lovable dinner partner Trump's feelings were hurt that they didn't vote for him with the cool calm of an intellectial exercize, often with the humorous tone of it all being just a joke.

That is MAGA Bill Maher's BS version of being "fair and balanced" when any observer with at least 2 brain cells to rub together can see immediately that his purpose is to slam Dems and help Repubs win elections.

77 million Americans voted for Trump? That means 78 million Americans voted for NOT Trump, including 75 million that voted for the mixed race female VP that you claim is such a broken down drunk she might even be capable of believing China pays America's imported taxes for us in the Trillions. Where is your passionate argument in favor of democracy and against the undemocratic conditions that put Trump in the WH in 2017 and GW Bush in the WH in 2001?

And now, just one year later, several credible polls are showing more Americans have now realized Biden was a better president than Trump and wish they could elect either Biden or Harris over Trump today.

Only hardcore Trumpian MAGA Cult Members would think otherwise.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3054386]Hey, Cane, I just laid out some criticisms of Trump. Can you name any positives about Trump whatsoever?[/QUOTE]No, I cannot. As a President, I find Donald Trump to be a man of no redeeming qualities. I deem him to be the absolute worst President in the entire history of the United States of America. My country. A country that I love. I know a lot of people say things like that, and it comes across as hyperbole. But, I really mean it. And it's because of his repeated and blatant disregard for the Constitution, including his demand that his acolytes also denigrate the law of the land in favor of singular loyalty to him. You're one of his hardcore followers. Therefore, I shall leave it to you to name his supposed positives. After all, you're good at doing that! So, I invite you to continue. Stop this phony show of role reversal, and go ahead and count the many ways. I'm certain some will listen.

Trump will do anything to change the subject of his disastrous economic policy results, that accusation of repeated sexual assaults and beatings from 13-14 year old girls, the overwhelming special election victories for Dems over the past 14 months and his atrocious poll numbers.

In typical Trump style, the World had an Iran Nuclear Agreement put together by Obama and verified to be working by Trump's own administration, Trump tore it up, Trump realizes he needs a solution like Obama negotiated or he'll have to start another Repub War, Trump can't negotiate a agreement even half as good as the one Obama negotiated, so Trump starts another Repub War.

Crap Repub economic results and another quagmire, no win Repub War, both of which will be left to the next Dem Administration to fix and clean up the colossal mess the Repub created.

Oh well. We tried.

[B]Trump says U.S. military has begun major combat operations in Iran[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/28/trump-us-military-iran-strikes-middle-east-oil.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]U..S. President Donald Trump confirms U.S. military operations against Iran are underway.

Several ministries in southern Tehran have been targeted, Iranian official tells Reuters.

In Tehran, witnesses heard the blast. Iranian state television later reported on the explosion, without offering a cause.

The Israeli military said it has identified missiles launched from Iran toward Israel.
Airlines start diverting flights around region.[/QUOTE]Then again, Biden stuttered and flipped a couple of words at the end of one of his lucid, well-informed and intelligent responses to every one of those debate quiz questions and Harris had a laugh that annoyed some insecure hillbilly MAGA males.

So there is that.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3054336]Isn't ICE investigating about this? Rather than killing.[/QUOTE]NWA wrote about ICE in 1989. The song was called: [B]Fuk da Police[/B].

[QUOTE]Fuck the police comin' straight from the underground
A young (redacted) got it bad 'cause I'm brown
And not the other color, so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority[/QUOTE]All you have to know is that ICE refuses to do real investigative work and are a rouge agency acting as a Presidential Secret Police force in the Dis United States of America.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3054488]NWA wrote about ICE in 1989. The song was called: [B]Fuk da Police[/B].

All you have to know is that ICE refuses to do real investigative work and are a rouge agency acting as a Presidential Secret Police force in the Dis United States of America.[/QUOTE]As ultra-warmonger Trump would have it, his War in Iran and regime change there and in Venezuela is the key to "Making America Great Again Unlike Anything Anyone Has Ever Seen. "

So there is no better use for his massively-funded, masked and armed American Citizen-killers than to load all of them onto Airforce One and Dumbo-drop them into Iran and Venezuela so they can show us and the rest of the World how tough guys can get'er done in the Repub regime change game.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3054466]No, I cannot. As a President, I find Donald Trump to be a man of no redeeming qualities. I deem him to be the absolute worst President in the entire history of the United States of America. My country. A country that I love. I know a lot of people say things like that, and it comes across as hyperbole. But, I really mean it. And it's because of his repeated and blatant disregard for the Constitution, including his demand that his acolytes also denigrate the law of the land in favor of singular loyalty to him. You're one of his hardcore followers. Therefore, I shall leave it to you to name his supposed positives. After all, you're good at doing that! So, I invite you to continue. Stop this phony show of role reversal, and go ahead and count the many ways. I'm certain some will listen.[/QUOTE]Trump gives worst image of USA to the world except Netanyahou and Putin and he is crazy dangerous for our world, for safety, economics and pollution killing our planet. Only good point is he can t last for long.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3054488]NWA wrote about ICE in 1989. The song was called: [B]Fuk da Police[/B].

All you have to know is that ICE refuses to do real investigative work and are a rouge agency acting as a Presidential Secret Police force in the Dis United States of America.[/QUOTE]The problem isn't ICE: the problem is Trump. We have had and will have immigration enforcement. Everyone on here knows that. When we arrive in foreign countries we have to get permission to bet there. It will always be there and this notion that we rid ourselves of immigration enforcement is pure fantasy.

When Ramadan now, many US Americans may die now all over the world, because of Trump.

Yoh dudes I totally called it! Look back at what I wrote yesterday baby! WW3, fucking finally!

But now though comes the really tough decision. To go to Bangkok or not? I was going to transit via Dubai or Doha, well that plan's out the window. Although to be honest I way prefer to transit via Japan or Seoul. Heck, even Taipei is ok. Them East Asian countries have better airlines if you ask me.

Now that armageddon has started, should I still get my dick wet in Thailand? Come to think of it, end of the world is the best reason to start fucking. Ok, let's pray to Satan I can get back to Thailand to fuck before the nukes come a flying.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3054477]Trump will do anything to change the subject of his disastrous economic policy results, that accusation of repeated sexual assaults and beatings from 13-14 year old girls, the overwhelming special election victories for Dems over the past 14 months and his atrocious poll numbers.

In typical Trump style, the World had an Iran Nuclear Agreement put together by Obama and verified to be working by Trump's own administration, Trump tore it up, Trump realizes he needs a solution like Obama negotiated or he'll have to start another Repub War, Trump can't negotiate a agreement even half as good as the one Obama negotiated, so Trump starts another Repub War.

Crap Repub economic results and another quagmire, no win Repub War, both of which will be left to the next Dem Administration to fix and clean up the colossal mess the Repub created.

Oh well. We tried.

[B]Trump says U.S. military has begun major combat operations in Iran[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/28/trump-us-military-iran-strikes-middle-east-oil.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Then again, Biden stuttered and flipped a couple of words at the end of one of his lucid, well-informed and intelligent responses to every one of those debate quiz questions and Harris had a laugh that annoyed some insecure hillbilly MAGA males.

So there is that.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2026/02/28/trump-confirms-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-is-dead-one-of-the-most-evil-people-in-history/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/opinion/iran-trump-bad-faith.html[/URL]

Easily better than all the previous ones combined.