Bangkok Reports

Last night started off going to Titanium, nice place but like a bunch of Hi So want to be girls, a little stuffy for me. Left and went to Soi 4 looking to see if there were any hidden jewels. I'm sure there were, just not for me! Walked over to Bangkok Beat and immediately made eye contact with a sweet girl, Ning. We hit it off very well dancing and partying until about 2 am. Decided we would spend the night together but not just yet. Got a cab over to Soi 11 and hit Climax, The place was rocking. Lots of cuties all shaking it.

Closed Climax, went up Suk got a room, thats when the real fun started. She had long hair past the middle of her back, quickly I jumped in the shower and got all of the sweat off, she got in at the same time. We soaped each other up and washed off. It was a treat having one of these girls who's pussy didn't smell like a fresh can of anchovy's. In bed she was just as hot, very accommodating. She started giving my unit a through hum all the way to my ball sack, feeling the back of her throat I almost shot off before I could get in her. Propped her ass on a pillow and slowly slid inside her kissing her, sucking her tongue. When I was ready to shoot off, Pulled out and pulled her head so she could get the the full shot. Slightly jerking she wrapped her lips around the head of my unit and gently rubbed her tongue under the tip until I jizzed in her mouth and chin. I collapsed on her and we held each other until we slept.

Woke up to the sound of running water looked at my watch and noticed about 3 hours were behind me, she hopped back in bed and we had a similar round with a full shot in her pussy, what a sweetheart.

Total Damage around 2,000 Drinks, Hotel was 2, 600, and 2, 500 for her time and company.

Hello BushWhack.

The Stumble Inn its now open and is a double size than before. The jewly its no there anymore and also the little camera shop and the money exchange of Krung Thai Bank.

Also the other indian shop is close now and just 3 o 4 days ago they start to work, I think a new bar will opening there.

First full night in Bangkok and walking into nana plaza all I could hear was dave dobbyn's 'slice of heaven' in my head! Na na na na na na na na na na na na na! Wow! This place seemed like disneyland for men! I have never seen so many hot and beautiful women in the one place! After some extensive research thru this forum it was decided we head to rainbow 4 on the 2nd level. Walked in and was seated by the usher. My jaw never left the ground. I was cuntstruck! So many choices! I eventually picked no. 94, a 24 yo hottie from Hong kong with an awesome slim body and the most mesmerizing eyes! In my haste I forgot to ask all the important questions one should always ask but this seemed like no other place on earth! I was blinded by the lights! Talked very briefly and was told ST only. Barfine 600 and 2500 ST. Was led to motel room by the escalator and slugged another 350 for a room. Got into room and showered before being told no oral! WTF! Well I didn't ask the question. Anyhow, down to the sex, only LK allowed. The sex was very enjoyable, starting withCG, then mish, some lazy side saddle for a good 20 mins then into some pile driving doggy for another 20 mins before turning her over, ripping off the dom and showering her with 6 solid spurts of baby butter! Sex was very good but was a little annoyed with noBJ but I put it down to a rookie mistake and being overwhelmed by disneyland for men. Noticed in later nights she had changed her no. To 49, making it confusing for some as there was now 2 number 49's there, the other being the super cute, superslim 18 yo Yui from issan. I have no doubt I will be returning!

[QUOTE=Monte3;1323141]Will be out and about tonight. Hopefully find a sweetheart to help get this stiffness out of my back![/QUOTE]You sure that stiffness isn't #1's knife in your back? :)

Slim

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname; 1323690]Have prices in Bangkok gone up significantly in the last few years?

In the Nana Parking lot sometime ago, I was asked for 1. 500 for ST, and when I complained it was expensive she simply turned her back, and also 2-3 other girls that were with her. I left since she was a nothing special 24 yo, but 1000 ST has always been the standard here. Am I right?

[QUOTE=Loveit;1324073]First full night in Bangkok and walking into nana plaza all I could hear was dave dobbyn's 'slice of heaven' in my head! Na na na na na na na na na na na na na! Wow! This place seemed like disneyland for men! I have never seen so many hot and beautiful women in the one place! After some extensive research thru this forum it was decided we head to rainbow 4 on the 2nd level. Walked in and was seated by the usher. My jaw never left the ground. I was cuntstruck! So many choices! I eventually picked no. 94, a 24 yo hottie from Hong kong with an awesome slim body and the most mesmerizing eyes! In my haste I forgot to ask all the important questions one should always ask but this seemed like no other place on earth! I was blinded by the lights! Talked very briefly and was told ST only. Barfine 600 and 2500 ST. Was led to motel room by the escalator and slugged another 350 for a room. Got into room and showered before being told no oral! WTF! Well I didn't ask the question. Anyhow, down to the sex, only LK allowed. The sex was very enjoyable, starting withCG, then mish, some lazy side saddle for a good 20 mins then into some pile driving doggy for another 20 mins before turning her over, ripping off the dom and showering her with 6 solid spurts of baby butter! Sex was very good but was a little annoyed with noBJ but I put it down to a rookie mistake and being overwhelmed by disneyland for men. Noticed in later nights she had changed her no. To 49, making it confusing for some as there was now 2 number 49's there, the other being the super cute, superslim 18 yo Yui from issan. I have no doubt I will be returning![/QUOTE]When girls come at me with all these lame as rules as if they're in charge, I just play along and go along with the rules but with a twist. I just bang the crap out of them! Go at it as hard and as long as possible until she walks funny!

[QUOTE=YG365;1324088]When girls come at me with all these lame as rules as if they're in charge, I just play along and go along with the rules but with a twist. I just bang the crap out of them! Go at it as hard and as long as possible until she walks funny![/QUOTE]Play along? To hell you preach. I put their asses out.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1324102]Play along? To hell you preach. I put their asses out.[/QUOTE]Do that in the gogo girl story by poster Loveit and you're out almost 3000 baht & get nothing but frustration in return since you've already paid money you're not getting back.

Alternately, with freelancers it is often post payment, paying after the deed, and 1000 baht ST is a common price, so there are other options to losing all your money and much less lost if it turns out that way.

Have paid 1500 a few times, but when I did it was something I thought was special.

[QUOTE=Montecristo; 1324084]

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname; 1323690]Have prices in Bangkok gone up significantly in the last few years?

In the Nana Parking lot sometime ago, I was asked for 1. 500 for ST, and when I complained it was expensive she simply turned her back, and also 2-3 other girls that were with her. I left since she was a nothing special 24 yo, but 1000 ST has always been the standard here. Am I right?[/QUOTE]

Anyone ever been to this place?

If so, can you pinpoint it for me. The only info I can get is that it is across from the Landmark Hotel, between Soi 5 & 7.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=HenryV; 1324169]Have paid 1500 a few times, but when I did it was something I thought was special.

[QUOTE=Montecristo; 1324084][/QUOTE]1000 is still standard, some of the better looking girls ask for 1200. It also depends a bit on time and "traffic". But 1500 is definately too much.

Just back from short stay. Bangkok Suk 1 to 33soi has changed. I have been doing short trips to this area for 10 years and while I enjoy Thailand it is clear that the nana parking lot, nana plaza and soi cowboy days are much different than a few years back.

The area from soi 1 to soi 23 at one time was full of freelance. Today there are just a few ladies and the days of the 20 year old are gone. Most are sporting a number of years more. Please this is not a race thing (from Europe) but the number of Arabs and Africans on the soi's shopping almost exceed the Thai. The new store fronts do not allow the girls to stand around. Just a trend that there will be less freelance in the area.

Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy: These areas appear to be holding up but the prices are up. When you consider that you will buy a drink if not 2, plus the bar fine and all are now 2000 for short time and add a short time hotel you are at 3500 to 4000.

Nana Parking Lot. This is now a hit or misses. It appears the local police continue to visit and the girls can be there one moment and gone the next. Price is on average 1500 for short time add a short time hotel and this will set you back 2000 for an hour event.

My observation is that the free-lance is disappearing with the girls moving to the bars.

In short, Thailand Bangkok fun but costing more. Just the trend that is happening all over the world.

Very accurate assesment, what I experienced back in April of this year.

[QUOTE=Strikesfun; 1324274]Just back from short stay. Bangkok Suk 1 to 33soi has changed. I have been doing short trips to this area for 10 years and while I enjoy Thailand it is clear that the nana parking lot, nana plaza and soi cowboy days are much different than a few years back.

The area from soi 1 to soi 23 at one time was full of freelance. Today there are just a few ladies and the days of the 20 year old are gone. Most are sporting a number of years more. Please this is not a race thing (from Europe) but the number of Arabs and Africans on the soi's shopping almost exceed the Thai. The new store fronts do not allow the girls to stand around. Just a trend that there will be less freelance in the area.

Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy: These areas appear to be holding up but the prices are up. When you consider that you will buy a drink if not 2, plus the bar fine and all are now 2000 for short time and add a short time hotel you are at 3500 to 4000.

Nana Parking Lot. This is now a hit or misses. It appears the local police continue to visit and the girls can be there one moment and gone the next. Price is on average 1500 for short time add a short time hotel and this will set you back 2000 for an hour event.

My observation is that the free-lance is disappearing with the girls moving to the bars.

In short, Thailand Bangkok fun but costing more. Just the trend that is happening all over the world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Montecristo; 1324084]

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname; 1323690]Have prices in Bangkok gone up significantly in the last few years? I left since she was a nothing special 24 yo, but 1000 ST has always been the standard here. Am I right?[/QUOTE]On principle 1000 should still be it. It was spring this year. Matter of the fact is that probably, seeing the slight increase of prices in MP's, or barfines or price structures at go-go's, where the ST is "officially" (a la carte rate, demanded) at over 2000 (plus bf) I am pretty sure they try to get more and a better slice. Tinking they still provide the cheapest ST service in the area. Not taking into account some at 500 or so "desperate" for a hook up for the evening / night, to assure some minimum income.

Lost the telephone number of Pat of Aviva Massage. Used to contact her to come & see me privately & she would stay with me. Checked on the website & it's seems she does not work there anymore. I'm coming back to Bangkok soon & would love to see her again. I know Aviva will not give me her number. If anyone has it could you please let me have it.

Cheers

[quote]To round off the trip I revisited Tarntip and spent 2 hours with Jum who was the sweetest girl I met.

Prices varied from mp's at 1900 (incl 1 hr. Massage fee) to Mixx LT 6000 (3000 if I saw her again). Paid 2500 at Baccara, a total waste and 2000 at Angle Witch almost as bad. It's not the waste of money that was so annoying it's the waste of precious time.

Met fellow travelers and expats who apart from the odd grump felt as I do that truly there is no place quite like Bangkok. It's not just the availability of beautiful women, it's the laughter the energy the amazing food and although it sounds odd it's also the spirituality of the Thai people. One practice I found enchanting was how the girls would stop and pray in front of the image of Buddha on their way to work. Nun told me they were usually praying for a customer.

I left a more seasoned "man of the world" and look forward to returning.[/QUOTE]At last a field report from a total newcomer who recounts his experiences in a literate and informative narrative and does not use the forum for self promotion for boasting or for criticism. My thanks.

[QUOTE=Rick6699; 1324348]Lost the telephone number of Pat of Aviva Massage. Used to contact her to come & see me privately & she would stay with me. Checked on the website & it's seems she does not work there anymore. I'm coming back to Bangkok soon & would love to see her again. I know Aviva will not give me her number. If anyone has it could you please let me have it.

Cheers[/QUOTE]And another equally long-shot. I'd sure love to have the phone for Pond, who also used to work at Aviva. A PM with this information would be most appreciated and I'd be forever in your debt.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1324328]500 baht tip is so 1980s. LOL. If she has any looks at all 700 plus seems appropriate, espcially if she had to touch your anus. LOL.[/QUOTE]500 is double the minimum wage per day. I know the girls expect more from farangs. Why? It is because farangs are willing to pay far more than Thais and this way they push the prices up. This is not only true in the sex business. I have a friend who is married to a Thai girl. She always scolds him for tipping too much, in restaurants, legitimate massage places etc.

Nice report. Big thanks. Planning my trip for around first of the year.

[QUOTE=Red Mosquito; 1322104]Hullo Hullo Hullo guys,

Came back home from an (exhausting) trip from Bkok+ Chiang Mai. Had a whale of a time and rediscovered parts of myself. Without sounding philosophical, here goes the FR:

1. Day-1 : Was with some senior colleagues, who believe that spending great money gets great pussy and thought heck, this shall upset the apple cart of my calculations but so be it, so off we went to some good clubs.

Headed to some of the good clubs of BKK, Spasso, then settled at CM2. CM2 had a bevy of beauties from CIS and Thai areas, all quite stunners, much better than stuff I have sampled in Sukhumvit area. The fucking disturbing trend was that all these supposed high end clubs with decent cover charges were filled with fat men from our brethren, India and they were all leching at all the stunners bigtime, disturbing the whole classy' atmosphere. I talked to a few of them, comes out they were traders from small shopping places of Delhi out for two nights for business, and had no intent of picking girls from the club, their kick was to see sexy babes gyrating to some tunes and that's that.

Anyhow, we chanced upon a group of four girls drinking together, went up to them, some loose talk, surprisingly beautiful babies, and more surprising was that two of them were thai and two from the CIS. Since they had nothing in common, even spoken language, I was bemused but anyhow, picked up the CIS babe as I was slow and my other monger friends lay their hands (literally) in the Thai babes immediately. My base was great looking as well.

Her name was Feroza. Off we went grinding on the dance floor and it was a crazy experience. She was grinding against Johnny and Johnny was going to tear through out of the pants so I cut the dance short and went to the Hotel. There she asked for a smoke and some beer to be ready and I obliged.

Then started a crazy crazy time. She undressed herself. Perfect booty, perfect melons, no trace of extra flesh anywhere. White as milk. She started with BBBJ and rimming and I went crazy with pleasure. Held her close, DFKd for some fifteen odd minutes while fingering her and hear her moan. I always thought and still do. That the moans are rehearsed though, but they still do their magic in giving you a better hard on. Entered her in mish and bonked her for some ten minutes before ejaculating in spurts. Had been so sexually tense ever since I had held her hand in the club, I knew first pop would come soon and quick and will be huge.

Then rested for a while while she massaged me, this surprised me as I thought she has no business doing anything while I am down and out and recuperating, but she was going the extra mile. Good. After an hour or so got huge erection again, and took her doggy style and reverse cowgirl style. Loved her jiggling ass and the visible vibrations as the cock thrusted in, such a pleasure to watch, isn't it?

Had another pop and told her lets go to sleep, it was 3 am already. Slept like a baby, cuddling up to her and woke up by a huge erection again at six am. Started fingering her slowly and kissing her on the nape of the neck and she woke up slowly, smiled and went down to give another round of BBBJ. Settled later in spooning position as didn't want her to be totally awake in a pose like cowgirl / reverse cowgirl. Spooning to me is a new discovery and I will urge fellow mongers to try this position, you feel Great, great. Another pop and I told to myself this is done now. She wanted to sleep till late and I said okay, so slept again and woke up at ten am, blissfully exhausted. She urged me to take bath with her and I said why not. In the tub, slipped over me over and over with her wet, soap laden skin and I just kept on sucking on the melons. Then entered her in the bathing tub that was the last and final pop.

Took her number, just in case wanted to repeat her the next night.

Damages: 3K Baht+ 500 baht tip.

Figure- 10/10.

Service- 10/10.

VFM- Absolutely.

WIR: No, for logistic reasons.

Next FR tomorrow. I have her number. Interested people PM me.

Pics attached:

* Rediscovered that four pops a night was not impossible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Strikesfun; 1324274]Just back from short stay. Bangkok Suk 1 to 33soi has changed. I have been doing short trips to this area for 10 years and while I enjoy Thailand it is clear that the nana parking lot, nana plaza and soi cowboy days are much different than a few years back.

The area from soi 1 to soi 23 at one time was full of freelance. Today there are just a few ladies and the days of the 20 year old are gone. Most are sporting a number of years more. Please this is not a race thing (from Europe) but the number of Arabs and Africans on the soi's shopping almost exceed the Thai. The new store fronts do not allow the girls to stand around. Just a trend that there will be less freelance in the area.

Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy: These areas appear to be holding up but the prices are up. When you consider that you will buy a drink if not 2, plus the bar fine and all are now 2000 for short time and add a short time hotel you are at 3500 to 4000.

Nana Parking Lot. This is now a hit or misses. It appears the local police continue to visit and the girls can be there one moment and gone the next. Price is on average 1500 for short time add a short time hotel and this will set you back 2000 for an hour event.

My observation is that the free-lance is disappearing with the girls moving to the bars.

In short, Thailand Bangkok fun but costing more. Just the trend that is happening all over the world.[/QUOTE]Take in mind that a lot is changing especially over the last 5 years.

For instance mobile phones and internet, this give the possibility to girls to make directly contact with potential cliënts.

Also social networks (including Tagged and DIA) didn't exist 5 years ago.

In my view that is also a reason why the landscape is changed, and for sure: you see this everywhere.

Just my two (euro) cents

[QUOTE=Pimpa;1324546]I have a friend who is married to a Thai girl. She always scolds him for tipping too much, in restaurants, legitimate massage places etc.[/QUOTE]And little she knows about how much he tops in a "non legitimate massage place" LOL (you know the 500/1000/1500 for HJ / BJ / FS)

[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1324571]Just my two (euro) cents[/QUOTE]So it seems we found who is inflating prices in Thailand. Instead of eurocents you should give your 2bahts! LOL

[QUOTE=Pimpa;1324546]I have a friend who is married to a Thai girl. She always scolds him for tipping too much, in restaurants, legitimate massage places etc.[/QUOTE]Indeed, tipping is not a big tradition in Thailand among the Thai themselves. They might leave some small change, but that is about it.

My Thai GF once stopped me from giving something to a beggar lady with a small baby in Pattaya, telling me "She looks healthy, she can work". And then she added,"Besides, she is not Thai, she is Cambodian".

Again; info anyone?

[QUOTE=HenryV; 1324173]Anyone ever been to this place?

If so, can you pinpoint it for me. The only info I can get is that it is across from the Landmark Hotel, between Soi 5 & 7.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HenryV;1324631]Again; info anyone?[/QUOTE]It is a laid back low lit nightclub cabaret restaurant venue with a three girl singing group who are actually very good. It's been around forever and different from anything else you will find in Lower Sukhumvit. Drinks are a bit on the pricey side. There are some ladies available. Not sure of the pricing structure but the mamasan will explain all. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=HenryV;1324631]Again; info anyone?[/QUOTE]Might help if you mentioned the name of the place you are asking about.

Anyone know of a place on the street, or very close by? Hoping to get some quick action while there, and I don't have time to take a taxi far away. Preferably a massage.

[QUOTE=HenryV;1324631]Again; info anyone?[/QUOTE]I haven't been there personally, but it's about 15-20 metres up from Soi 5 heading towards Soi 7. It's only a doorway and a passageway leading down to the bar, not a massive front or anything like that, so it can be easy to miss. Look for the sign, I guess.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1324615]Indeed, tipping is not a big tradition in Thailand among the Thai themselves. They might leave some small change, but that is about it.

My Thai GF once stopped me from giving something to a beggar lady with a small baby in Pattaya, telling me "She looks healthy, she can work". And then she added,"Besides, she is not Thai, she is Cambodian".[/QUOTE]Tipping is not like in America where you allocate the standard 15% or whatever it is. But my GF generally tips based on performance when we're out to eat. If the service is good, she'll tip 40-50, if its ok she'll tip 20. If its bad they get nuttin!

Also, its standard to tip the guys who help back your car in parking lots and the dudes who hold the umbrella as you walk from the car to the restaurant.

I have been planning my second trip to Bangkok for some time. My last trip was in 2006. My only worry is that I don't want anyone back home to know that I am in Thailand. But my cell phone may prove to be a culprit. I am from India. I will be on International roaming and if I keep my phone off, will the callers get to hear an automated message in Thai. And if I keep my phone on but can't take the call, will they again hear a message in Thai language. Please help. If it helps, I use Airtel prepaid in India. Thanks a lot. I plan to travel on Thursday if I can get an answer that can provide me a solution.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1324328]500 baht tip is so 1980s. LOL. If she has any looks at all 700 plus seems appropriate, espcially if she had to touch your anus. LOL.[/QUOTE]500 is the usual tip (it's just a HJ, right?). But maybe the newbies from Novotel give more.

[QUOTE=Nick2005;1324834]I have been planning my second trip to Bangkok for some time. My last trip was in 2006. My only worry is that I don't want anyone back home to know that I am in Thailand. But my cell phone may prove to be a culprit. I am from India. I will be on International roaming and if I keep my phone off, will the callers get to hear an automated message in Thai. And if I keep my phone on but can't take the call, will they again hear a message in Thai language. Please help. If it helps, I use Airtel prepaid in India. Thanks a lot. I plan to travel on Thursday if I can get an answer that can provide me a solution.[/QUOTE]If your phone is off, it should be the voice of your provider's voice mail box that answers."Off" means that you cannot be reached and the mobile phone network cannot find you, so how can a Thai voice answer in that case? You could be anywhere. There is --literally-- no Thai connection.

Not picking up your phone can be more tricky. In my case, it will be my pre-recorded message that plays and therefore that does not give me away. But if you have no voicemail activated or (perhaps) no pre-recorded message installed, it could be the local version of "The person is not picking up his phone" or "Please speak after the beep" that is played.

I don't know why you don't want people to know you are in Thailand, but disappearing from the "net" for that period sounds much more suspicious to me than telling you are making a tourist visit to Thailand. It may be difficult to believe but most of the people visiting Thailand don't come there to cum.

Right on Suk?

[QUOTE=V Lenin;1324645]I haven't been there personally, but it's about 15-20 metres up from Soi 5 heading towards Soi 7. It's only a doorway and a passageway leading down to the bar, not a massive front or anything like that, so it can be easy to miss. Look for the sign, I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MonsterMaster;1324642]Anyone know of a place on the street, or very close by? Hoping to get some quick action while there, and I don't have time to take a taxi far away. Preferably a massage.[/QUOTE]Any massage parlor in the area. They are use to backpackers with no money wanting cheap service. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Strikesfun; 1324274]Just back from short stay. Bangkok Suk 1 to 33soi has changed. I have been doing short trips to this area for 10 years and while I enjoy Thailand it is clear that the nana parking lot, nana plaza and soi cowboy days are much different than a few years back.

I have not been going as long as you, but it has changed.

A lot of the lack of SW's on those Sois is due to the fu. Ing street vendors. There are no places for the girls to stand.

But if you go to the Grace Hotel area and walk toward Nana Plaza, I always find many many SW's there after 1am. I have probably taken 12 girls over my last 2 trips and never had a bad experience. Just treat them nice, take them to hotel breakfst. They are very happy with 1k to 1500 for LT.

To the Cheapstakes that cry over the lack of SW on the lower sukh, don't worry, they have not disappeared, they have just moved to another place.

There are a lot of places where one can find FLs and SW on the lower sukh. Just need to keep one's eyes open.

Personally, just seeing the Talent (sarcastic) on the streets of the lower sukh, I'd rather see Street vendors.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1324967]To the Cheapstakes that cry over the lack of SW on the lower sukh, don't worry, they have not disappeared, they have just moved to another place.

There are a lot of places where one can find FLs and SW on the lower sukh. Just need to keep one's eyes open.

Personally, just seeing the Talent (sarcastic) on the streets of the lower sukh, I'd rather see Street vendors.[/QUOTE]Sure, yada yada, show us some pics of what Thai girls you'ld rather see and the best you can find on lower sukh.

[QUOTE=Nick2005;1324834]But my cell phone may prove to be a culprit.[/QUOTE]It will. Airtel service in Thailand usually is done by AIS. So it will have automated messages in Thai. Also, activating international roaming, recieving / making calls on a prepaid sim would cost you a lot.

Regards,

A

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1324969]Sure, yada yada, show us some pics of what Thai girls you'ld rather see and the best you can find on lower sukh.[/QUOTE]Nic's comment seems more than reasonable that there aren't too many stunners in the lower Suk SW bunch. I can only recall one stunning SW over the last few years that sticks in my memory (sorry no pic). Its unlikely he is inclined to be taking pics of them, whether ugly or not. Even avid phtographers are probably not doing that. Since you ask for pics, and if you disagree with Nic, why not post your pics to prove that the SWs can be stunning, before asking for pics. Nic has posted pics of extremely pretty girls before who were not SWs.

[QUOTE=Woodypussy1967;1322947]When I lived in London, I used to book many Thai escorts with silicon tits. I would like to ask you where I can find Thai girls with enhanced breasts in Bangkok. Is there any particular gogo, club or place? Of course, I am not interested ladyboys. I will also post this query to the other forums, for the rest of places.[/QUOTE]Are you kidding? You won't have any problem finding silicone tits everywhere. Price of operation is cheap in Thailand. OK some bar girls cannot yet afford it but many can. Lots of Silicone on display in Nana and Soi Cowboy bars, the posher the bar, the more silicone, e. G. Baccarat (Soi Cowboy).

500 baht tip not good enough?

[QUOTE=Harold444]Originally Posted by Harold444:

500 baht tip is so 1980s. LOL. If she has any looks at all 700 plus seems appropriate, espcially if she had to touch your anus. LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pimpa;1324546]500 is double the minimum wage per day. I know the girls expect more from farangs. Why? It is because farangs are willing to pay far more than Thais and this way they push the prices up. This is not only true in the sex business. I have a friend who is married to a Thai girl. She always scolds him for tipping too much, in restaurants, legitimate massage places etc.[/QUOTE]Can't see Harold's original post. Perhaps he is on my ignore list? :D

"So 1980s"? :confused: Early 1990s, I recall taking a Soi Cowboy girl for very LT for 400 Baht, so not sure what he means by 500 Baht being 1980s. I thought the topic was a hand job, but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1324892]If your phone is off, it should be the voice of your provider's voice mail box that answers."Off" means that you cannot be reached and the mobile phone network cannot find you, so how can a Thai voice answer in that case? You could be anywhere. There is.literally- no Thai connection.

Not picking up your phone can be more tricky. In my case, it will be my pre-recorded message that plays and therefore that does not give me away. But if you have no voicemail activated or (perhaps) no pre-recorded message installed, it could be the local version of "The person is not picking up his phone" or "Please speak after the beep" that is played.

I don't know why you don't want people to know you are in Thailand, but disappearing from the "net" for that period sounds much more suspicious to me than telling you are making a tourist visit to Thailand. It may be difficult to believe but most of the people visiting Thailand don't come there to cum.[/QUOTE]Thanks Wolvenvacht. My understanding is that once I reach Bangkok and switch on my phone, a local mobile service provider will take over and then even if I switch it off, an automated message that will inform the caller that my phone is switched off will be from the local provider and will be in Thai language. I will be ery happy if my understanding is wrong as it solves my problem. I will keep the phone switched off and will switch it only when I need to call.

I a obviously not making a tourist visit. So an't let wife / family know that I am in Bangkok. My story is that I am going for office work to some place within India only.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1325064]Nic's comment seems more than reasonable that there aren't too many stunners in the lower Suk SW bunch. I can only recall one stunning SW over the last few years that sticks in my memory (sorry no pic). Its unlikely he is inclined to be taking pics of them, whether ugly or not. Even avid phtographers are probably not doing that. Since you ask for pics, and if you disagree with Nic, why not post your pics to prove that the SWs can be stunning, before asking for pics. Nic has posted pics of extremely pretty girls before who were not SWs.[/QUOTE]I don't recall either of us saying anything about stunners, let alone "too many". BTW, where in Bangkok would you find that and when is it ever more than enough? Define stunner.

Does it need to be repeated that one person's garbage is another man's treasure. Or, just check out the photo thread for what guys think is hot, and is not?

Avid photographers? You can, for example, find youtube video of Nana Parking Lot SWs.

No, I don't expect Nickyboy to post any pics, just as I don't expect him to post his method of picking up civvies. But just the thought of him doing so is entertaining. BTW where are those "extremely pretty girls" you refer to? That should be good for a chukle or two.

My photos? I neither post or take them, but have given info before as to the similar looks of attractive SWs I've seen clothed and naked. For example lily koh. Or lookup online the pic on the cover of AfterDarkAsia, magazine, volume 17. The SW was even hotter than her. Also see the front pic on the volume 21 issue. And under Clubs on the same website, see Billboard & the nurse girl pic. SW was even more pretty, younger looking & slimmer than her. Farenheit club, pic of busty beautiful Ying. Teasers club, large pic. I could go on and on about the looks of SWs I've seen.

Maybe you boys should get out more, eh?

[QUOTE=Nick2005;1324834]I have been planning my second trip to Bangkok for some time. My last trip was in 2006. My only worry is that I don't want anyone back home to know that I am in Thailand. But my cell phone may prove to be a culprit. I am from India. I will be on International roaming and if I keep my phone off, will the callers get to hear an automated message in Thai. And if I keep my phone on but can't take the call, will they again hear a message in Thai language. Please help. If it helps, I use Airtel prepaid in India. Thanks a lot. I plan to travel on Thursday if I can get an answer that can provide me a solution.[/QUOTE]You could buy one of the phones with 2 sim cards, Or simply get you another and leave your other one at home.

Or you could just say FUCK IT and roll with whatever pitch is thrown, As long as you don't go home with a sticky wicket!

[QUOTE=Woodypussy1967;1322947]When I lived in London, I used to book many Thai escorts with silicon tits. I would like to ask you where I can find Thai girls with enhanced breasts in Bangkok. Is there any particular gogo, club or place? Of course, I am not interested ladyboys. I will also post this query to the other forums, for the rest of places.[/QUOTE]I believe you have been RTFF sufficiently to understand that the offer of women in this country, especially in the mongering areas, is so wide and huge that any appetite can be satisfied. A town where there are (sex oriented) MP every few steps and each offering from 5 to 1 girls (or far more) , where gogo bars have a line up of 30 to 50 available at any given time (not to count those already taken away, ie bar fined) , it should be pretty much easy to understand that you will get what you want every two steps.

You just need to venture out and observe the world around you.

[QUOTE=Nick2005; 1325096]Thanks Wolvenvacht. My understanding is that once I reach Bangkok and switch on my phone, a local mobile service provider will take over and then even if I switch it off, an automated message that will inform the caller that my phone is switched off will be from the local provider and will be in Thai language. I will be ery happy if my understanding is wrong as it solves my problem. I will keep the phone switched off and will switch it only when I need to call.

I a obviously not making a tourist visit. So an't let wife / family know that I am in Bangkok. My story is that I am going for office work to some place within India only.[/QUOTE]The Thai provider will not interact with your phone. The only trick is that if your phone is on the local ringing tone will be heard. Some ringing tones are very British, for instance, some quite generic. The thai provider detects you till your phone is on in Thailand, otherwise, as said, you can be anywhere. It is your Indian provider that will tell the caller it can't get a connection with you. You can be anywhere.

I would be careful, when answering or calling, on the following factors.

A) local noises or voices in the background

B) time differences when calling or being called between Thailand and India.

What about your passport then stamped with entry in and exit from Thailand! That stays as long as the passport is on use, mans even later, if you keep it.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1325272]What about your passport then stamped with entry in and exit from Thailand! That stays as long as the passport is on use, mans even later, if you keep it.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same.

[QUOTE=FlyJets;639697]I have tried many places to find an answer on the issue. just a simple finger point will surfice. Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I doubt anyone here's ever been to hue hin.

[QUOTE=HenryV;1324932]Right on Suk?[/QUOTE]Yep. It really is just a small doorway with a sign.

In fact friend, I'll do you one better. This is what it looks like, courtesy of google maps.

[url]https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Sukhumvit[/url]+Bangkok+Thailand&hl=en&ll=13. 741485, 100. 554176&spn=0. 004398, 0.008256&sll=-36. 605471, 145. 469483&sspn=7. 405852, 16. 907959&oq=sukhimvit&hnear=MRT+Sukhumvit+Station, +Khlong+Tan+Nuea, +Vadhana, +Bangkok, +Thailand&t=h&z=18&layer=see&cbll=13. 741413, 100. 554271&panoid=3u7Isnf3Drdh8sKEhVYOvA&cbp=12, 39. 84, 0.0.

When will you be in BKK?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1325296]I doubt anyone here's ever been to hue hin.[/QUOTE]You are digging out a 5.5 year old post on inability to spell?

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1325339]You are digging out a 5.5 year old post on inability to spell?[/QUOTE]I think it is because the "latest post" and "search" facilities on the forum don't work anymore since the database had to be resurrected from an old back-up copy. I guess the indexes and links are totally messed-up.

[QUOTE=V Lenin; 1325323]Yep. It really is just a small doorway with a sign.

In fact friend, I'll do you one better. This is what it looks like, courtesy of google maps.

[url]https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Sukhumvit[/url]

+Bangkok+Thailand&hl=en&ll=13. 741485, 100. 554176&spn=0. 004398, 0.008256&sll=-36. 605471, 145. 469483&sspn=7. 405852, 16. 907959&oq=sukhimvit&hnear=MRT+Sukhumvit+Station, +Khlong+Tan+Nuea, +Vadhana, +Bangkok, +Thailand&t=h&z=18&layer=see&cbll=13. 741413, 100. 554271&panoid=3u7Isnf3Drdh8sKEhVYOvA&cbp=12, 39. 84, 0.0.

When will you be in BKK?[/QUOTE]Balls, it didn't work properly. Here try this one: [url]http://goo.gl/maps/3rBRd[/url]

If it still doesn't work, go to Google street view between Soi 5 and Soi 7 on Suk, it's to the left of St Moritz Vision Centre, and there's a taxi helpfully parked out the front. Ahhh. The wonders of technology.

[QUOTE=MonsterMaster;1324642]Anyone know of a place on the street, or very close by? Hoping to get some quick action while there, and I don't have time to take a taxi far away. Preferably a massage.[/QUOTE]For real massages, there are plenty on Khao San road itself. For naughty action, just cross the big road parallel to Khao San (Rachadamnoen Klang) and go into the filthy area bit to the south. Lots of streetwalkers there, especially at night, but some even in daytime. 300-500 a pop. It's the lowest-end Thai area in town, not meant for foreigners, don't expect GFE, but they're friendly enough. Service is poor, but girls are prettier than on Sukhumwit.

Here's the proof (and precise location) , good old Google Street View: [url]http://goo.gl/maps/A1T50[/url]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1325570]It's the lowest-end Thai area in town, not meant for foreigners, don't expect GFE, but they're friendly enough. Service is poor, but girls are prettier than on Sukhumwit.[/QUOTE]Why would prettier girls work for less than what they can get in Sukhumvit? Less competition? But then prices should be aligned to Sukh. Pretty girls not liking farangs?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1325605]Why would prettier girls work for less than what they can get in Sukhumvit? Less competition? But then prices should be aligned to Sukh. Pretty girls not liking farangs?[/QUOTE]Maybe they do not speak English?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1325570]For naughty action, just cross the big road parallel to Khao San (Rachadamnoen Klang) and go into the filthy area bit to the south. Lots of streetwalkers there, especially at night, but some even in daytime. 300-500 a pop. It's the lowest-end Thai area in town, not meant for foreigners, don't expect GFE, but they're friendly enough. Service is poor, but girls are prettier than on Sukhumwit.

Here's the proof (and precise location) , good old Google Street View:

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/A1T50[/url][/QUOTE]Damn. They must have a union. They have shade, nice chairs to sit in, and all while waiting for a customer. And they do appear to be better than the ones on Suk as you have said.

[QUOTE=Nick2005;1324834]But my cell phone may prove to be a culprit. I am from India. I will be on International roaming and if I keep my phone off, will the callers get to hear an automated message in Thai. And if I keep my phone on but can't take the call, will they again hear a message in Thai language. Please help. If it helps, I use Airtel prepaid in India. Thanks a lot. I plan to travel on Thursday if I can get an answer that can provide me a solution.[/QUOTE]Why take the phone with you to Thailand? Perhaps just leave it somewhere at home in India.

After a few days back home in Norway I have found out I end relationship with my gf here and I will be a full time mongerer both domestic and abroad. No point anymore to try to hang into a relationship when all my body and mind wants is to have different pussy all the time.

My last night in BKK the 3. 9.12 I was planning on a Spasso stunt. This trip I had just nice experience with Spasso girls so why not end the trip where it started (preferably with a nice LT session). When entering Spasso at 11pm it was ok ratio men / women. Sat down at the bar as usual and viewed for talent. Saw 2 girls I had earlier. They came up to me to say hello I replied the hello ofcourse but fast I stated that there would be no reunion tonight. There were no drama in this and they both went back to where they came from. Soon sat my eyes in this tall darkskinned girl and waved her in to my non occupied chair next to me. Very nice girl and we clicked (in a strange p4p way, hehe) right away. I thought to my self that if this girl provides a more than decent GFE I would treat her extremely high rate even to Spasso standards. She spoke decent english and I would as an experiment approach this situation differently than I normaly do (I hardly ever discuss price upfront and hardly ever girls ask me "how much you give me". I don't like that). But I felt playful this evening and since it was my last eve why not run a slightly different show (I know I will pay at the end so no drama there).

I told her not to bullshit me as I knew the game very well. I told her I know I will pay at the end of our businessagreement but now I tell you how much you possible can get tonight. I borrowed pen and paper from the barstaff and I drew one diagram of various actions such as anal, rimming, GFE, cim, BBBJ, spanking, photos, squirting, fingering, DATY, deepthroathing yeah you name it.

I know the pricing inside Spasso ranging from 4-5000BHT LT so I gave her for just a few out of maximum action prices as low as 2000BHT. 3000BHT and for maximum effort and good acting I told her she could earn up to 6-7000BHT. My experiment was ofcourse using the old carrot trick so she only saw the 6-7000BHT infront of her. Many fellow mongorer would now I guess concider me to be a stupid ass overpaying and everything and I agree. I would just see how a firm pricesetting due to actions and performance would affect her motivation for playing along on the plus side. She responded very good to my diagram and we had a good laugh. She was frisky and had a good sence of humor. She started in the bar and stack her tung deep inside my throath, kissing me like there was no tomorrow. I forgot to breath through my nose and I had to retract to get some fresh air. She started to lick me around my face and her hand was inside my boxers rubbing my junior. After a few weeks of playing hard and popping a lot of Viagra and kamagra my body had a large storage of the mentioned and I was rock hard as it almost did hurt. We left in a hurry making me leave half a bottle of unfinished fine swedish vodka at the bar. She took me to the p-lot and she drove me home. She did smoke my bandit a bit after sitting inside the car though and we did make out heavy in the car making me smell myself (after she smoked me).

After parking in Grand President we did make all wievers of the cctv from the elevator happy (mostly security personell I presume) doing a porn light show in the elevator me pulling her stockings to her kneelevel and fingering her pussy like crazy while she was moaning quite high. Arriving at 19fl she stumbled into my room dragging me into bed. She smelled nice and so did I so we skipped the initial shower routine just diving into business. What a wild session lasting for almost lets say an hour. She opened up all her holes to my liking. Did not had any complaints. She did almost fist herself and let me try as well. I KY'ed my hand and slide in into her as far as I could both in ass and pussy. This girl would not let her 6-7000 reward go away. I fucked her in all possitions I could come up with. We did it in livingroom, kitchen, bathroom, on the floor on the bed on tables and so on. And when I was coming she was nice enough to swallow my load without making further comments (normaly a thaigirl will go to bathroom and spit load out). My heartrate was near max and with a lot of Kamagra / Viagra and Vodka / Redbull inside it was time for a break. I gave her a lot of compliments as she deserved it.

We had one more round after a few hours of blacking out. We also did shower routine because I was sweating heavily after round nr 2. She told me she did climax a few times herself and she considered this to be hard but nice work. We did chat a bit and she told me the usual stuffs. She got normal dayjob in some Visa office but when she felt for some extra money she would go to Thermae or Spasso. She was jolly good and she had been living in US for some years with an old fart. She told me how she did play him for money. Her english was as good as mine so easy to communicate.

Woke up around noon and I played with her pussy for long time. Best breakfast ever. I had one condom break but we just laughed as non of us play the game unsafe. We went to Siam Paragorn for some food at Kiabuke (japaneese restaurant. Don't kill me if the name was wrong). Since I was heading for airport at 10pm I was drinking pepsi for a change. We went back to hotel and we fucked and packed and she drove me to the airport. We parted 10:45pm. And I gave her 7000BHT and she looked extremely happy but when I come to think of it. This could be considered as atelast 2 LT sessions so not bad at all. Not bad at all.

Called herself KAN. 32yrs, borned and raised Kohn Kaen but lives in BKK, tall and slim (educated guess would according to the metric system be 165 (no shoes) and 50kg. Clean shaved, nice teeth, short hair, boobs handfull, great GFE and great performer. WOW what an end to a great monger trip.

I got to visit BKK, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, BKK, Pattaya and BKK. I got to meet huge number of freelancers (ST / LT) , I got to meet some starfishes, I had 2 condom mishaps (broke / lost) , I did have a lot of fun. I think except a few times I paid according to pricesettings learned from reading ISG. I had a week at the end were I just met girls for reunion sessions, datingsites girls (all this we can call freebies exept from cost regarding dinner, movies and drinks ofcourse) but after p4p to much I need some "normal" activity as well.

Great trip!

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1325706]After a few days back home in Norway I have found out.

Great trip![/QUOTE]Skogis, I know English is not your native language, even so, your english is pretty good, and most importantly, your reports are always a pleasure to read.

Looking forward to reading yours again, in the future.

[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1325690]Why take the phone with you to Thailand? Perhaps just leave it somewhere at home in India.[/QUOTE]Because his wife might find it. I don't know his level of IQ but should just take the fuckin phone and insert a local SIM card in Thailand.

He is probably telling his wife that he is going to Delhi for a weekend business trip.

[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1325920]Because his wife might find it. I don't know his level of IQ but should just take the fuckin phone and insert a local SIM card in Thailand.

He is probably telling his wife that he is going to Delhi for a weekend business trip.[/QUOTE]It is not all that easy if for business reasons you need to make outgoing calls and show your number at times.

As taxing as it may seem, be extremely diplomatic with the Lady Boy's, they are very dangerous and aggressive when mad. Aside from the fact it is a national past time there to jump in when a farang is in a fight with a thai.

Smile, beg off, and simply leave them alone.

[QUOTE=Hollywood124; 1325744]Short message. First time in Bangkok.

Thanks to Luvpuss and Bangkok Banger for the tips.

I read the Bangkok form for several days.

Now that I'm here, I understand.

"This Mother Fucking Lady Boy touched me."

Jesus, I wanted to beat him!

Full report to follow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hollywood124;1325744]Short message. First time in Bangkok. Thanks to Luvpuss and Bangkok Banger for the tips. I read the Bangkok form for several days. Now that I'm here, I understand. "This Mother Fucking Lady Boy touched me." Jesus, I wanted to beat him! Full report to follow.[/QUOTE]What do you mean touched you? It's a man, not an alien.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1326049]What do you mean touched you? It's a man, not an alien.[/QUOTE]If I had 10 B given to me every time one asked to go with me while walking Soi 4 or lower Suk, I'd be rich. Thats not counting the times I see them in the service sector trying to sell me eye glasses, or my girl friend cosmetics.

Obviously, the OP is scared he may be gay!

Let him draw back on one, the beat down he gets, if he can remember it after coming to, will certainly teach him some manners.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1325605]Why would prettier girls work for less than what they can get in Sukhumvit? Less competition? But then prices should be aligned to Sukh. Pretty girls not liking farangs?[/QUOTE]They're not all pretty (lots of ugly old hags for 300 baht) , but top 20% tend to be better looking than top 20% of Sukhumwit freelancers (a grim bunch these days). To Thai tastes, anyway (we're all different, if you like 30+ Buriram jungle bunny looks, maybe not).

As for why they work there, multiple factors, as always. Sukhumwit has become not so great for freelancers, with a huge percentage of Arabs and Africans in the area. These girls apparently don't want to work in a bar. Many may not speak English, feel comfortable / safe around Farang / Arabs / Africans, or comfortable doing things foreigners expect (a long-ish GFE session, instead of a quick 15 min shag). On pure economic side, ones in demand can get 3-10x500 = 1500-5000 per day out in the cheap Thai area, it's a low-cost high-volume deal. Ultimately, I suspect for many it's just familiarity / confort. Most Thais are not particularly business-minded or having initiative, they just stick with what they know.

[QUOTE=Mukri;1307122]I had read about Dr BJ Salon. Her kiss was the best I have ever experienced. Since then I visited three her three more times. It was pure joy.[/QUOTE]You DFK a girl in a specialist BJ bar? That nice sweet taste was the residual of the last 25 BBBBCIM's she had done that day. Remember not to kiss mum when you get back home.

LOL.

Rosco

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1325706]After a few days back home in Norway I have found out I end relationship with my gf here and I will be a full time mongerer both domestic and abroad. No point anymore to try to hang into a relationship when all my body and mind wants is to have different pussy all the time.

My last night in BKK the 3. 9.12 I was planning on a Spasso stunt. This trip I had just nice experience with Spasso girls so why not end the trip where it started (preferably with a nice LT session). When entering Spasso at 11pm it was ok ratio men / women. Sat down at the bar as usual and viewed for talent. Saw 2 girls I had earlier. They came up to me to say hello I replied the hello ofcourse but fast I stated that there would be no reunion tonight. There were no drama in this and they both went back to where they came from. Soon sat my eyes in this tall darkskinned girl and waved her in to my non occupied chair next to me. Very nice girl and we clicked (in a strange p4p way, hehe) right away. I thought to my self that if this girl provides a more than decent GFE I would treat her extremely high rate even to Spasso standards. She spoke decent english and I would as an experiment approach this situation differently than I normaly do (I hardly ever discuss price upfront and hardly ever girls ask me "how much you give me". I don't like that). But I felt playful this evening and since it was my last eve why not run a slightly different show (I know I will pay at the end so no drama there).

I told her not to bullshit me as I knew the game very well. I told her I know I will pay at the end of our businessagreement but now I tell you how much you possible can get tonight. I borrowed pen and paper from the barstaff and I drew one diagram of various actions such as anal, rimming, GFE, cim, BBBJ, spanking, photos, squirting, fingering, DATY, deepthroathing yeah you name it.

I know the pricing inside Spasso ranging from 4-5000BHT LT so I gave her for just a few out of maximum action prices as low as 2000BHT. 3000BHT and for maximum effort and good acting I told her she could earn up to 6-7000BHT. My experiment was ofcourse using the old carrot trick so she only saw the 6-7000BHT infront of her. Many fellow mongorer would now I guess concider me to be a stupid ass overpaying and everything and I agree. I would just see how a firm pricesetting due to actions and performance would affect her motivation for playing along on the plus side. She responded very good to my diagram and we had a good laugh. She was frisky and had a good sence of humor. She started in the bar and stack her tung deep inside my throath, kissing me like there was no tomorrow. I forgot to breath through my nose and I had to retract to get some fresh air. She started to lick me around my face and her hand was inside my boxers rubbing my junior. After a few weeks of playing hard and popping a lot of Viagra and kamagra my body had a large storage of the mentioned and I was rock hard as it almost did hurt. We left in a hurry making me leave half a bottle of unfinished fine swedish vodka at the bar. She took me to the p-lot and she drove me home. She did smoke my bandit a bit after sitting inside the car though and we did make out heavy in the car making me smell myself (after she smoked me).

After parking in Grand President we did make all wievers of the cctv from the elevator happy (mostly security personell I presume) doing a porn light show in the elevator me pulling her stockings to her kneelevel and fingering her pussy like crazy while she was moaning quite high. Arriving at 19fl she stumbled into my room dragging me into bed. She smelled nice and so did I so we skipped the initial shower routine just diving into business. What a wild session lasting for almost lets say an hour. She opened up all her holes to my liking. Did not had any complaints. She did almost fist herself and let me try as well. I KY'ed my hand and slide in into her as far as I could both in ass and pussy. This girl would not let her 6-7000 reward go away. I fucked her in all possitions I could come up with. We did it in livingroom, kitchen, bathroom, on the floor on the bed on tables and so on. And when I was coming she was nice enough to swallow my load without making further comments (normaly a thaigirl will go to bathroom and spit load out). My heartrate was near max and with a lot of Kamagra / Viagra and Vodka / Redbull inside it was time for a break. I gave her a lot of compliments as she deserved it.

We had one more round after a few hours of blacking out. We also did shower routine because I was sweating heavily after round nr 2. She told me she did climax a few times herself and she considered this to be hard but nice work. We did chat a bit and she told me the usual stuffs. She got normal dayjob in some Visa office but when she felt for some extra money she would go to Thermae or Spasso. She was jolly good and she had been living in US for some years with an old fart. She told me how she did play him for money. Her english was as good as mine so easy to communicate.

Woke up around noon and I played with her pussy for long time. Best breakfast ever. I had one condom break but we just laughed as non of us play the game unsafe. We went to Siam Paragorn for some food at Kiabuke (japaneese restaurant. Don't kill me if the name was wrong). Since I was heading for airport at 10pm I was drinking pepsi for a change. We went back to hotel and we fucked and packed and she drove me to the airport. We parted 10:45pm. And I gave her 7000BHT and she looked extremely happy but when I come to think of it. This could be considered as atelast 2 LT sessions so not bad at all. Not bad at all.

Called herself KAN. 32yrs, borned and raised Kohn Kaen but lives in BKK, tall and slim (educated guess would according to the metric system be 165 (no shoes) and 50kg. Clean shaved, nice teeth, short hair, boobs handfull, great GFE and great performer. WOW what an end to a great monger trip.

I got to visit BKK, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, BKK, Pattaya and BKK. I got to meet huge number of freelancers (ST / LT) , I got to meet some starfishes, I had 2 condom mishaps (broke / lost) , I did have a lot of fun. I think except a few times I paid according to pricesettings learned from reading ISG. I had a week at the end were I just met girls for reunion sessions, datingsites girls (all this we can call freebies exept from cost regarding dinner, movies and drinks ofcourse) but after p4p to much I need some "normal" activity as well.

Great trip![/QUOTE]Seems you are taped.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1324584]So it seems we found who is inflating prices in Thailand. Instead of eurocents you should give your 2bahts! LOL[/QUOTE]See it as an investment

[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1326311]Seems you are taped.[/QUOTE]You posted 5 screens of a quote just to add one line and photo. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post].

Slim

[QUOTE=HenryV;1324932]Right on Suk?[/QUOTE]No, parallel to Sukh in an alley that joins Soi 5 and Soi 7 IIRC. Called "Check Inn 99"

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293916-d2617134-r129946286-Check_Inn_99-Bangkok.html[/url]

Y

Hi guys,

I've been reading at least 20 pages and haven't been able to find what I need.

I'm looking for a place where to have a massage with "an extra" for me and my wife apiece.

Seems the easiest thing in the world when you are in Bangkok. Not so easy in this case.

For me, I would only need a girl, p4p&pop. Problem is my girl (you know, women.) would need the place to be:

A) extremely clean be) nice see) non prostitution obvious (I know, I also say to myself, WTF!)

Any thoughts? Any place? Other problem is that she doesn't speak english, so she can't ask the masseuse once in.

Also I could possibly engage her to a 3-some. Problems, the same as listed above. It would be OK to go party and find a girl in a bar that happens to be in a mood to fuck as, but seems imposible to plan a 3-some with a WG, because, you know, it is not spontaneous enough. So, again, any place where I can engage a WG in conversation and try to figure it all out. Have in mind, key point has to be a place which is not an obvious p4p place.

Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1326269]You DFK a girl in a specialist BJ bar? That nice sweet taste was the residual of the last 25 BBBBCIM's she had done that day. Remember not to kiss mum when you get back home.

LOL.

Rosco[/QUOTE]Of course you are right, but this is hardly diffrent forn anyewhere else.

I recall being in an FKK in Germany, and being kissed wonderfully by a girl who went on giving me a BBJ. That the case in most cases. And, of course, she had done the same with others before me. I just hope that they do mouthwash between customers.

Anyway, my point is: either you never kiss or you kiss. And if you kiss, wherever it is, you must accept that you are just one in between many. At Dr BJ or elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1326680]I recall being in an FKK in Germany, and being kissed wonderfully by a girl who went on giving me a BBJ. That the case in most cases. And, of course, she had done the same with others before me. I just hope that they do mouthwash between customers.[/QUOTE]Besides mouthwash, there's the spicy som tam they all eat. Like crack that's bound to kill almost anything. You'll know what she's been eating as she gives head if you get that burning sensation.

[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1326584] (snip) If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post].

Slim[/QUOTE]When is the last time you clicked [View Original Post]? It does not work for me anymore. :(

[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1326584]You posted 5 screens of a quote just to add one line and photo. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post].

Slim[/QUOTE]Will do (in future)

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1326733]When is the last time you clicked [View Original Post]? It does not work for me anymore. :([/QUOTE]You must have a minor problem. A cold boot might fix it.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1326733]When is the last time you clicked [View Original Post]? It does not work for me anymore. :([/QUOTE]It works fine. If the original quote is in the same page, then it directs you to The same page.

[QUOTE=Yendor; 1326585]No, parallel to Sukh in an alley that joins Soi 5 and Soi 7 IIRC. Called "Check Inn 99"

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293916-d2617134-r129946286-Check_Inn_99-Bangkok.html[/url]

Y[/QUOTE]While it is true there is an alley, the only entrance that I found when I went there is directly on Sukh. It's marked well enough if you are looking for it in all the visual clutter of shops and street vendors.

Personally I wouldn't like to call it a menace as its all in mind! If you don't mind using your fist which is not even remotely anything like what it tries to substitute! Nowdays they have surgically altered genitalia, I mean totally removed, thanks to great skills developed by Bankok surgeons at very economic rates! I could even see plastic surgery patches like a pair of brackets and artificially created pussy area including those folds of skin while without much depth. That only means instaed of shaking hand we must dip in the finger to identify whether its deadend of a ladyboy or truley a lady! But when I learnt to ask straight whether she was a LB then another LB replied that she has surgically created even vagina hence I can do to her like a lady but more beautiful! Again her voice gives it away, also her near perfection, tall and tailored beauty looks, her gait while she trying to outdo a lady all indicate to your connoiture sight what you are into!

Comming back to my story.but only when I realized that I am able to penetrate only half, I demanded who she was and even offered 2000 Bath tutorial fees to let me know in detail. This ladyboy was picked up in Holywood gogo bar in NEP; not known as Ladyboy bar else where on net when you google for it. She was extremely beautiful babe with excellent figure, showed even milk from her tits saying she has a 3 month old baby, but no stretchmarks whatsoever! She has very well formed uniform feel beautiful boobs and tall smooth white colour! Except her funy voice nothing gave out until I saw her nude and she showed me tell tell signs of surgery, allegedly carried out at age of 8 by her dentist father 's surgeon friend! Her father drives Mercedes being dentist, she drives Honda civic, lives in a separate condo, all point out to her success in her career in ripping off gullibles on daily basis! Typical charges are 600Baht for BF. 2000/4000 for st / LT. Her array of histrionics skills and smart ways are too much to defend you against her attempts to extract money at every stage, may be it to making you tip the waiter, car parking money etc but she was never vicious or aggressive hence difficult to fend off! I lost 150usd in the deal or may I say learnt some " chicken soup for sex".

Hence not getting into it would be safer bait if you don't want to end up your own kind!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1326771]It works fine. If the original quote is in the same page, then it directs you to The same page.[/QUOTE]Does it also work with older posts, not on the same page? It always brings me to a wrong page.

[QUOTE=Naughty;1326766]You must have a minor problem. A cold boot might fix it.[/QUOTE]It is a webpage. The [view original post] "button" is a link made by the server, so cold booting my PC will not really have any influence. And besides I am on Windoze so the thing cold boots itself with regular intervals anyhow. ;)

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1325272]The Thai provider will not interact with your phone. The only trick is that if your phone is on the local ringing tone will be heard. Some ringing tones are very British, for instance, some quite generic. The thai provider detects you till your phone is on in Thailand, otherwise, as said, you can be anywhere. It is your Indian provider that will tell the caller it can't get a connection with you. You can be anywhere.

I would be careful, when answering or calling, on the following factors.

A) local noises or voices in the background

B) time differences when calling or being called between Thailand and India.

What about your passport then stamped with entry in and exit from Thailand! That stays as long as the passport is on use, mans even later, if you keep it.[/QUOTE]Few years back I called a mate who was in an overseas country. He didn't reply. I caled again an hour later and he says hes in Hong kong on a business trip. I said "you lying bastard, you are in Manila ". He said " how do you know?". I said "easy, when you didn't / couldn't answer the auto voice reply stated " the subscriber can't be reached." a common auto phone response that can only be found in Philippines.

Also some years ago I was supposed to be in England was but actually in Ireland banging a girl. All was well till wife decides to call me when I'm in Dublin airport. This airport is small with many many boarding announcements for flights. Franticaly I walked into bathroom but can still hear all the announcements, and I can, I figured she could. She wanted to talk, and I wanted to get off the line fast. Life has many moments that are funny later, but can cause momentary panic at the time they occur.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1326733]When is the last time you clicked [View Original Post]? It does not work for me anymore. :([/QUOTE]Just tried it and it works just fine.

Slim

Went out Wednesday, Bangkok Beat. Met up with a cutie. The place was really crowded, which is not hard to do considering the size of the place.

We danced and decided to leave around 3. Cabbed it up to Phra Khanong area, Went to the Lilla Hotel just a few steps south of the BTS. Room was 890 B. They let us stay in until 1 pm

I've gotten away from Go-Gos and such as the choices are better and more fun out on the hunt. If all else fails, that is always an option. This girl did everything between naps, was happy for 2000 B on the way out.

[QUOTE=TotoTamuz; 1302960]She was a GEM.

To make a long story short the day I left I told her that I never received so much kisses love and sex

I told her:" amazing Thailand" and she replies "amazing bar girl". That sentence summerize my Bangkok vacation.[/QUOTE]Good report, Some guys have been here in Bangkok and vicinity for years, for some reason, have not had as good experience as you had.

I would say, GEM is in the eye of the beer holder.

As I recall from last January's visit WGs gargle long and noisily before any DFK. That should kill the residue problem!

How do you see QE3 affecting USD / THB eschange rate in the coming months?

Mouthwash is no guarantee. The girls in the blowjob bars in Japan do it between guys religiously but that didn't a number of punters from picking up STDs at a Tokyo shop earlier this summer (see reports).

[QUOTE=Satyr23;1327044]How do you see QE3 affecting USD / THB eschange rate in the coming months?[/QUOTE]Here's what Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Kittiratt Na-Ranong had to say about it. Anyone care to weigh in?

[QUOTE=Satyr23;1327049]Here's what Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Kittiratt Na-Ranong had to say about it. Anyone care to weigh in?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/news/312378/kittiratt-tells-asia-prepare-for-cash-inflow[/url]

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1327000]As I recall from last January's visit WGs gargle long and noisily before any DFK. That should kill the residue problem![/QUOTE]Surely it kills the mood.

[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1326269]You DFK a girl in a specialist BJ bar? That nice sweet taste was the residual of the last 25 BBBBCIM's she had done that day. Remember not to kiss mum when you get back home.

LOL.

Rosco[/QUOTE]What are you? A germaphob?

There are probably more germs in the dirty beer glasses you get at a bar.

I always DFK them and usually eat their pussy at those places.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1327048]Mouthwash is no guarantee. The girls in the blowjob bars in Japan do it between guys religiously but that didn't a number of punters from picking up STDs at a Tokyo shop earlier this summer (see reports).[/QUOTE]The key combo is mouthwash + som tam, preferably at the same time.

Sushi don't work.

Neither does Scope, only Listaline. Two minutes & up and be sure to cover Deep Throat.

The Safe Sex section details other options, like Hydrochloric Acid & the stuff used to clean toilet bowls.

[QUOTE=Monte3; 1326920]Went out Wednesday, Bangkok Beat. Met up with a cutie. The place was really crowded, which is not hard to do considering the size of the place.

We danced and decided to leave around 3. Cabbed it up to Phra Khanong area, Went to the Lilla Hotel just a few steps south of the BTS. Room was 890 B. They let us stay in until 1 pm

I've gotten away from Go-Gos and such as the choices are better and more fun out on the hunt. If all else fails, that is always an option. This girl did everything between naps, was happy for 2000 B on the way out.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time. Smart move to stay away from Gogo's.

I did a search but did not come up with anything. I have 1 last question before I get there in Oct. I have been reading about kapoo clubs. Have any of you been to one? I was going to try celebrity spa.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1326818]While it is true there is an alley, the only entrance that I found when I went there is directly on Sukh. It's marked well enough if you are looking for it in all the visual clutter of shops and street vendors.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, unless one takes delight in hanging around back doors the real entrance is on Sukhumvit. Just past the restaurant on the corner of Soi 5 plus another shop, very narrow, about one meter lane down to the front door.

Can you recommend, please a pharmacy in Sukhumvit area to buy good quality Viagra / Kamagra?

What are the prices?

Is there any problem to buy it without prescription?

Based on RTFF, I wanted to give a try for a FL on the ultimate day of my stay in BKK. The RTFF says that there are many disco Clubs attached to many hotels' parking lots which are famous for being naughty I. E facilitate flings with freelancers.

FL is a different category experience –typicaly they are young girls; amongst other regulars / sex workers; who may be in colleges, or working somehwhere in mall, BPO and doing this for extra money etc. While babes who are found working in Massage parlours are regulars who typically have a kid. They work as masseur for regular income while FL works for extrs pocket money. Her inexperience is compensated by her energy / GFE which typically may be missing in masseur though she may be skilled and methodical in matters of sex but a bit mechanical. Be ing methodical, you lose out on spontaneity while FL can surprise you with extempore behavior. The WGs are typically moms with a baby and may be in late twenties or early thirties while FLs are around 20 or under. U have to waste a lot of time with patience at the disc to pick up a FL atleast upto 2-3 am unlike when you go for soapy massage where you know that you will be out in say 90 min, The FL will decline your overtures to retire early as she will receive atleast 7-8 free drinks' offer during her stay and disco dancing. Also the more she delays going to room, the less she will have to work for the money she will receive-60-100 USD as man is also tired out by then and will retire after one shot. So its a win win situation for the FL! FL will come to your room –outcall while massage parlors are incall places with cramped / old used rooms many times!

After hectic parlays at Climax until 2. 30 am and spending atleast 1000 bath for lady drinks to various possible lays I could hook up Ami who is 24yrs age university student in some MBA program, she having drunk atleast 7-8 bottles of light beer! Having grown bit impatient I, inbetween, offered another younger even 150usd, she said I am lying meaning nobody gives like that! Atlast We decided to retire to cosiness of my hotel near Nana for 100usd until morning. But that is never implementatble as she tries to wiggle out under one pretext or another at 5 am-hostel security etc Being truly GFE we did alternate between Bath tub and bed a few time s and changed condom 5 times between anal and pussy during next 90 min of sexercise

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1325570]For real massages, there are plenty on Khao San road itself. For naughty action, just cross the big road parallel to Khao San (Rachadamnoen Klang) and go into the filthy area bit to the south. Lots of streetwalkers there, especially at night, but some even in daytime. 300-500 a pop. It's the lowest-end Thai area in town, not meant for foreigners, don't expect GFE, but they're friendly enough. Service is poor, but girls are prettier than on Sukhumwit.

Here's the proof (and precise location) , good old Google Street View:

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/A1T50[/url][/QUOTE]I went there recently around 9 pm to check it out. I could not find pretty girls. The only pretty girls I saw were ladyboys.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1324285]

[QUOTE=Montecristo; 1324084]On principle 1000 should still be it. It was spring this year. Matter of the fact is that probably, seeing the slight increase of prices in MP's, or barfines or price structures at go-go's, where the ST is "officially" (a la carte rate, demanded) at over 2000 (plus bf) I am pretty sure they try to get more and a better slice. Tinking they still provide the cheapest ST service in the area. Not taking into account some at 500 or so "desperate" for a hook up for the evening / night, to assure some minimum income.[/QUOTE]A principled hobbyist / sex monger? How about that.

[QUOTE=Praj4; 1327231]U have to waste a lot of time with patience at the disc to pick up a FL atleast upto 2-3 am unlike when you go for soapy massage where you know that you will be out in say 90 min, The FL will decline your overtures to retire early as she will receive atleast 7-8 free drinks' offer during her stay and disco dancing. Also the more she delays going to room, the less she will have to work for the money she will receive-60-100 USD as man is also tired out by then and will retire after one shot. So its a win win situation for the FL! FL will come to your room –outcall while massage parlors are incall places with cramped / old used rooms many times!

After hectic parlays at Climax until 2. 30 am and spending atleast 1000 bath for lady drinks to various possible lays I could hook up Ami who is 24yrs age university student in some MBA program, she having drunk atleast 7-8 bottles of light beer! Having grown bit impatient I, inbetween, offered another younger even 150usd, she said I am lying meaning nobody gives like that! Atlast We decided to retire to cosiness of my hotel near Nana for 100usd until morning. But that is never implementatble as she tries to wiggle out under one pretext or another at 5 am-hostel security etc Being truly GFE we did alternate between Bath tub and bed a few time s and changed condom 5 times between anal and pussy during next 90 min of sexercise[/QUOTE]I frequent the clubs in BKK at least once a week, sometimes as much as 3 times a week when I'm home. I never approach one of the girls and ask can I buy her a drink, or are we going home. Usually my approach is something like it would be anywhere else, Lets dance, chat, and see whats in common. One key thing you mentioned, Ami is a student, that doesn't translate into FL, it means she was willing to go play for pay, however she may or may not do that with any frequency.

So you spent a whopping 30 dollars on drinks! One thing I never do is set a time limit on which we are 'departing' Fuck it, go until daylight and if you cannot perform she'll help you if you have treated her right.

Girls from any culture and country will do what ever you want them to do, all you have to do is be sweet about your presentation and let it fly.

Last week I was in Bangkok Beat until they closed, then went and closed Climax, Took the girl I met in the beat with me, never mentioned we she was going home with me, what price I'd pay and if she would do anal. We got into the room as the sun was rising, she never missed a beat. We slept until 11, and did it agian!

Was reading news reports that it's raining in Bangkok and a flood watch alert is in place. How are the mongering activities going on this weekend? Will be visiting Bangkok next weekend. Is rain messing up with mongering activities? Will try to change my schedule if it is too bad for mongering next week.

Thanks

Beeing almost a regular climax hopper I agree in some of Praj4 writing. But in general I think the FL`s comes in all the variation there is. Young, old, pretty, ugly / bugly, scammers, students, normal work, unemployed, horny, not horny, GFE, not GFE, anal or no anal, hehe.

There is no problem at all just to swing inside Climax smile to a girl and go to hotelroom. That is mostly up to you. I have tried various solutions in Climax (and other simular clubs as well. Mixx, CM2, Shock69, Thermae, Q-Bar, Spasso, Insomnia, Bangkok Beat, Bossy and so on). Sometimes party hard all night until sunrise with some girls (you pay drinks ofcourse) and sometimes just take a few steps inside and fetch your girl for the evening. Since this is girls working as freelancers they are unattached and don't answer to any mama / papasan or pimps for that matter. They are as Praj4 correctly states in a possition atleast early in the evening to choose from many men and maby they don't like you and then it is no go. They give you the cold shoulder. Upon closing time this attitude changes rapidly and for gents negotiating price at location it tends to fall. They are inside these clubs to earn that extra buck so they don't want to go outside / home emptyhanded (most of them. Exceptions are to be found in the crowd. Out just to have fun).

Even if they are some sort of SW`s they tend to go for people dressing nicely and acting nicely. Ofcourse spending a fair ammount of money also helps but also raises expectations for later compensation. As a newbee I often heard when the bill was to be settled: "why you give me only small money when you spend 10000BHT in the club. Fair and understandable question I think. Just be aware. I chersih chemistry and attitude and even if I am not a mindreader I rarerly make big mistakes and end up with fresh material performing great in the sack. If the mentioned is present I trust them and have never experienced (so far) sth bad. Most of the girls are thrustworthy and don't even steal my "test money" I voulentarly lay out on a table or on the floor (as I have lost them). Last trip I just miss my Canon IXUS 9515 but that can also been me fumbeling it away myself. Sad because I did have some nice pussy / sperm / ass / tits pics. Can't realy blame the freelancers. I have stopped beeing paranoid and just float pretending to trust them.

After Go Go`s and bars closes many girls not beeing barfined enter this freelancejoints and switch themself into freelancemode. Some have allready been barfined but enters ie Climax hoping for some more action without beeing desperate. I know a few "regular" freelanceladies and they tend to work they way through Bangkoks many freelanceclubs in a undefined rotationsystem. No they don't work offshore but they work from a hidden system. Mostly bcs chaps like me like to hang out in one place many nights in a row and then they think us "stupid" farrangs don't know the system and they can tell you the "I just search for clients 2 times a month" fairytail. But yet again freelancers come in many forms and variations so it is hard to pin point exact what they do and when they do it. But mostly a freelancegirls you can find in almost every of the clubs mentioned.

Sometimes when I feel lazy I just tip off some off the working staff to bring some nice girls over. Thay are more than happy to arrange some sort of "hidden" lineup. I rarerly choose the 10 girls I go for 8`s. I think they perform better and have by far better attitude than the ones beeing high on themself. And they actually feel pretty proud beeing choosed before the 10 girl. That is a good start and good tactick in my humble mongerbook. Don't expect the 10 girl you ditch to be friendly after this, hehe.

And having worked my way through many of this clubs I feel a bit stuck sth due to many girls now reqognize me. Actually quite funny but some girls atleast act jealous when they see you with another girl. Mostly you will not have hard time overcome it but it can be a bit creepy (atleast I think so). Many freelancers will also try to hook you up for a trip or going out (depends again in the chemistry model) you pay everything and she maby buy you a pack of Stimorols at the 7-11 just to put some fairness into the game, hehe.

But for me Climax and all the other joints give me good times. The girls are great and hardly do I run into the starfishprogram (maby bcs I leave the 10`s alone). My worst example I have from a trip to Bangkok in May when a freelancegirl obviously had contacts inside the hotel I booked (not to hard actually me staying at the same hotel all the time) and met me in the reception when I arrived. I did not tell her I was coming at all. When shit like this happens I do the "I have to leave routine". Checking out from Grand President soi 11, grab a taxi and drive 100mts to Citadines soi 11. Sometimes it work sometimes it don't. It seems that all the girls in the streets have some sort of surveilance program going on. It is hard to be anonym even if BKK is pretty big city. When it becomes to tensed I stay at Novotel plunchit (or sth). Then they can't find you.

Happy hunting games.

A buddy recommended the "Duke of Earl" in Sukhumit area, but I can not recall having seen this at any time during my frequent stays in Bangkok. Does anybody know this place?

[QUOTE=Praj4;1326821]Personally I wouldn't like to call it a menace as its all in mind! If you don't mind using your fist which is not even remotely anything like what it tries to substitute! Hence not getting into it would be safer bait if you don't want to end up your own kind![/QUOTE]True, The entrance of NEP are full of them. Better take FL's on the apposite site at the Nana parking area. Some even though are not stunners, they are cute and make up with thier GFE.

[QUOTE=Otari; 1327217]Can you recommend, please a pharmacy in Sukhumvit area to buy good quality Viagra / Kamagra?

What are the prices?

Is there any problem to buy it without prescription?[/QUOTE]It has been asked 10, 000 times.

Go into any legit pharmacy in the area. One that is renting space from a building. Not on the street!

Buy w / o prescription. Make sure you check date for expiration.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1325605]Why would prettier girls work for less than what they can get in Sukhumvit? Less competition? But then prices should be aligned to Sukh. Pretty girls not liking farangs?[/QUOTE]Yes generally going with farang is considered the ultimate ordeal. Many try to avoid this side of the business, and would much rather go with Thai guys for 500 baht than farang for 1000+. Partly it is the stress of dealing with foreigners and English, partly that foreigners are viewed as disgusting, bad smelling, rude, and repulsive, and partly that the typical Thai customer only takes about 20 minutes.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1327814].Partly it is the stress of dealing with foreigners .partly that foreigners are viewed as disgusting, bad smelling, rude, and repulsive .[/QUOTE]That sounds like me. Now I know why they refuse me, LOL.

Always good to read your postings Opebo, your one of the few who are willing to speak your mind, frank, honest personal opinions. As opposed to the hype artists, who are no help to newcomers. Keep up the good work Opebo.

[QUOTE=MyThaiTrip1; 1327544]Was reading news reports that it's raining in Bangkok and a flood watch alert is in place. How are the mongering activities going on this weekend? Will be visiting Bangkok next weekend. Is rain messing up with mongering activities? Will try to change my schedule if it is too bad for mongering next week.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Those Thai beauties may be sweet but they are not made of sugar, so they will not melt or disappear when it is raining. It is still the rainy season now and they are used to it. Just bring your umbrella to keep her dry until you reach your hotel room. Then it is the time to make her wet. ;)

[QUOTE=MyThaiTrip1;1327544]Was reading news reports that it's raining in Bangkok and a flood watch alert is in place. How are the mongering activities going on this weekend? Will be visiting Bangkok next weekend. Is rain messing up with mongering activities? Will try to change my schedule if it is too bad for mongering next week.Thanks[/QUOTE]The down point with the rain, as last night, is that the street activities are reduced. Although the mobile bars on sidewalks resist bravely to the pouring rain. Bangkok beat was full of girls last night. I reckon nearly 3x male. Not much on the chase or hunt so you can also enjoy the night as it flows.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1327904]Sounds great except that thai boys and farangs don't like the same type of girls. Thais who have $$$$$$s don't like the isan types so favored by the white man.[/QUOTE]

Actually plenty of farang would love to get those creamy white beauties, they just aren't (easily) available to them, because those girls have better options. And those dark-skinned girls would also certainly prefer the Thai customer, they're just well aware Thai men don't want her. Lets face it lads, we're getting the bottom of the barrel by [i]their[/i] thinking.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1327840]Always good to read your postings Opebo, your one of the few who are willing to speak your mind, frank, honest personal opinions. As opposed to the hype artists, who are no help to newcomers. Keep up the good work Opebo.[/QUOTE]

My pleasure and thank you for the compliment. I do suspect I have something to offer here - my Thai colleagues often disparage me by saying 'you are more Thai than I am'.

[QUOTE=Opebo; 1328073]. Lets face it lads, we're getting the bottom of the barrel by [i]their[/i] Thinking.[/QUOTE]But be fair, colour is not everything and brown they may be but they are infinitely better than their pale skinned European and American cousins!

[QUOTE=Opebo;1328073]Lets face it lads, we're getting the bottom of the barrel by [i]their[/i] thinking.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but I couldn't care less as long as I can get the girl of my liking

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1327788]Go into any legit pharmacy in the area. One that is renting space from a building. Not on the street!

Buy w / o prescription. Make sure you check date for expiration.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't trust buying it on the street either, but I don't know. Never tried.

Actually plenty of Pharmacies in Sukhumwit Road do NOT sell Kamagra or Viagra without prescription. Most of the places (medication sellers) in the Sois do seem to sell it. Original Viagra will cost a lot more than Kamagra. I don't recommend Cialis or Apcalis if you want value for money.

Soi 33, Soi 23, Soi 11, Sukhumwit 2nd pharmacy east of Soi 4. I haven't really tried the most up-market type of Pharmacies that much as usually some tiny place is the most convenient at the time.

Warning. Don't take a whole Kamagra pill (100 mg). Its strong stuff, and could give a serious headache, as friends have reported who had no experience. If you are not experienced try a quarter at most, first time. Research Viagra on web to consider dose, duration of working etc.

Kamagra is a good assist for when you want a lot of sex in the same day, or when the girl isn't exactly as horny as you (or scared of your dick) and she doesn't make it quite as easy as it should be. May also be good for those with Condom phobia, where it tends to go down as soon as you try to get the condom on.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1328073]Actually plenty of farang would love to get those creamy white beauties, they just aren't (easily) available to them, because those girls have better options. And those dark-skinned girls would also certainly prefer the Thai customer, they're just well aware Thai men don't want her. Lets face it lads, we're getting the bottom of the barrel by [i]their[/i] thinking.[/QUOTE]So true, and so few people are willing to admit it out loud. Unfortunately, with economic progress in Thailand, it seems like bottom of the barrel is getting rather thin (used to be bottom 30, now it's more like bottom 10, if that).

I must thank Opebo (along with ThatAsshole) as the member I got most uniquely useful information on this website, especially on places upcountry that I would not have discovered otherwise on my own.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1328163]Warning. Don't take a whole Kamagra pill (100 mg). Its strong stuff, and could give a serious headache, as friends have reported who had no experience. If you are not experienced try a quarter at most, first time. Research Viagra on web to consider dose, duration of working etc.[/QUOTE]Hi. I thought this Kamagra stuff was a gel? So you would recommend taking half the gel pack or whatever it comes in? I've only tried the generic Cialis stuff and thought it was pretty good, but have to wait at least 30 minutes or so for it to kick in.

[QUOTE=Opebo; 1328073]Actually plenty of farang would love to get those creamy white beauties, they just aren't (easily) available to them, because those girls have better options. And those dark-skinned girls would also certainly prefer the Thai customer, they're just well aware Thai men don't want her. Lets face it lads, we're getting the bottom of the barrel by [i]their[/i] Thinking.

'.[/QUOTE]

many farang come to Thailand thinking non-hookers are easy and will drop to their knees as soon as they step off the plane because they are foreigners... they soon realize that this couldn't be further from the truth..

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1328163]I wouldn't trust buying it on the street either, but I don't know. Never tried.

Warning. Don't take a whole Kamagra pill (100 mg). Its strong stuff, and could give a serious headache, as friends have reported who had no experience. If you are not experienced try a quarter at most, first time. Research Viagra on web to consider dose, duration of working etc.[/QUOTE]Warning. It is very easy to assume that these drugs for ealing with erectile dysfunction can be taken based on the advice on this web site. Not so. Any of these drugs ought to be prescribed by a doctor and monitored. Research on the web is not a substitute for professional advice.

I would hazard a guess that all the ED drugs for sale along Skvt are time expired, have been stored above 30 deg C and / or are fakes.

Pharmacies off Skvt may have reliable generics but only Boots, etc can guarantee you get Viagra.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1328196]Hi. I thought this Kamagra stuff was a gel? ...[/QUOTE]It comes at your choice at the time of shopping. Pills, gel, effervescent tablets or chewing tablets. The easiest to split are the effervescent tablets. They have a crack in the middle. And they are the most discrete way to consume.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1328163]I wouldn't trust buying it on the street either, but I don't know. Never tried.[/quote]That is what I said. Don't buy it on the street.

I am in my late 50's and don't need that shit.

I think it is not good for you. Anything that gives you a headache and makes your Dick numb can't be good.

If you are in shape, even in your 70's, you should not need it.

But, to each their own.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1328163]"I wouldn't trust buying it on the street either, but I don't know. Never tried." [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1328245]
That is what I said. Don't buy it on the street.[/QUOTE]Why repeat yourself? Can't you handle it when I fail to disagree with you, instead offering mild agreement?

[QUOTE]If you are in shape, even in your 70's, you should not need it.[/QUOTE]It's turned many old men back to wanting regular sex again. I have also seen quite young guys using it in order to have 5 sex sessions a day (or more) where normally they would be starting to flag.

The massive number of users out there, young and old, don't need the advice or lecture of a non-user, especially on the topic of where to get it ;)

E. G. I have heard "Ice" is good for sex, but I haven't tried it, and would not offer any advice on it.

[quote=opebo;1328073]and those dark-skinned girls would also certainly prefer the thai customer, they're just well aware thai men don't want her.[/quote]this is gross generalisation. i say that thai men will fuck anything that they can get, even if they prefer white skinned. i have seen some young nice looking thai dudes with no money with some fat or ugly girlfriends too (i didn't notice the skin tone. wasn't important). okay the thai men with money can afford to be choosy.

i am well aware of certain thai girls who get plenty of thai men after them but who only want farangs. the problem for many thai girls is that once they fuck a thai guy, they effectively become his wife or property in the eyes of the local community, and they don't want that. it's a problem with the culture. some thai girls claimed that they ended up having to be the wife of some guy that raped them, first time.

When it comes to this discussion on which type of men girls like in Thailand there are numerous factors involved such as which class of sociaty they belongs to and if they are citygirls or countrygirls. My experience is that it is no problem dealing with a thaigirl from middle / highclass and they tend to have pale skin. But these girls are not interested in your money. They simply don't like thaimen bcs thaimen are considered to be amongst the worlds biggest cheaters. Infact do they think (since I am eurpoean I can only speak for us, hehe) europeans are more thrustworthy than their own men even if they know a lot of foreign guys come to Thailand to buy cheap sex from isaangirls (but ofcourse if a highso Thaigirl finds out then she will not touch you even with very thick rubbergloves).

And girls borned and raised in big cities tend to have an easier life when it comes to family and traditions. A few girls (as described) I know don't care about thaiculture and the parents have no control on them so they are free to make their own choices. They don't even care about getting married but still wants children. These are girls acting like girls in Norway going out to have fun and maby even will have a quick fuck. You don't find them in the lower Suk area but in hotshotsclub. But here other mechanisms sets in than the regular old man meets young isaan, barfine and LT / ST pricequoting system.

But one poster in ISG stating how everything works is as stupid as I would state I have answer to all questions. Some Thaigirls like Thaimen, Thaimen like Thaigirls, Thaigirls like foreign, Foreign like Thaigirl, Isaan girls like beeing taking care off, Citygirls like to take care of themself and so on.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1328325]But one poster in ISG stating how everything works is as stupid as I would state I have answer to all questions. Some Thaigirls like Thaimen, Thaimen like Thaigirls, Thaigirls like foreign, Foreign like Thaigirl, Isaan girls like beeing taking care off, Citygirls like to take care of themself and so on.[/QUOTE]European men (and US citizens) go to Thailand to f*ck Thai women. Only the naive go with the intention of developing a long term relationship with Thai women (the stupid think they have established a relationship after 48 hours). The main body of tourists go to get more exciting, more available and more enjoyable than they get at home.

Long may it continue so,

[QUOTE=Opebo;1327814]Yes generally going with farang is considered the ultimate ordeal. Many try to avoid this side of the business, and would much rather go with Thai guys for 500 baht than farang for 1000+. Partly it is the stress of dealing with foreigners and English, partly that foreigners are viewed as disgusting, bad smelling, rude, and repulsive, and partly that the typical Thai customer only takes about 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]I refuse to believe that a working girl will turn down 1000 plus from the farang to go off with the Thai standing beside him who offers 500. If going with the farang is considered the ultimate ordeal there are an awful lot of pale skinned young beautiful Thai girls that are suffering miserably. True it can be harder work with the farang but we are not all disgusting bad smelling rude and repulsive and some of us like to give the girl a good time something she rarely gets in the twenty minutes she spends with the Thai.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1328325]But one poster in ISG stating how everything works is as stupid as I would state I have answer to all questions. Some Thaigirls like Thaimen, Thaimen like Thaigirls, Thaigirls like foreign, Foreign like Thaigirl, Isaan girls like beeing taking care off, Citygirls like to take care of themself and so on.[/QUOTE]Ya, Lots of experts, = Too few real reports.

I had a spinner Sunday night, met her at Bangkok Beat, Like Bionicman reported there were at least 3-1 girls to guys.

We dropped a pin at the Jasmine Resort at Phra Khanong until around 1 pm, good room around 2600 B. This is the second time this girl and I have hung out. She's good just getting a little to routine. Need to find some new talent. Will be out of town for a couple of days next week, which is good as I need a break.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1328368] (snip) Only the naive go with the intention of developing a long term relationship with Thai women (the stupid think they have established a relationship after 48 hours) [/QUOTE]You are right, it took me 72 hours. :)

But seriously, what value is there in such generalizations?

If you read the packageing and it contains do's and don't it will tell you of possible side effects. Headaches, back or muscle pain etc. Different drugs effect people in different ways. That is why a doctor will start you out on the lowest strength and see what happens. Don't start out on the high end and work down, these are drugs after all.

A further note but not a criticism of anyone, is if in shape you won't need them. Many people are in shape but have diabetes, heart situations and many other physical ailments. As we get older not all things work like when we were 20. I for one am in good shape still sometimes I use them, sometimes I don't. Sometimes I like 3 shots a day, sometimes I only want one. Circumstances play a part of usage.

Ok back to reports about our favorite subject. I am done with this for now.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1328163]I wouldn't trust buying it on the street either, but I don't know. Never tried.[/QUOTE]Does it mean that in pharmacies you will get a good stuff?

Do you have any idea about prices for Kamagra / Viagra in legitimate pharmacies?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1328163]Warning. Don't take a whole Kamagra pill (100 mg). Its strong stuff, and could give a serious headache, as friends have reported who had no experience.[/QUOTE]Is Kamagra stronger than Viagra?

[QUOTE=Monte3;1328401]This is the second time this girl and I have hung out. She's good just getting a little to routine. Need to find some new talent.[/QUOTE]I agree, routine starts to take place after the 3rd encounter. It might be and it is often nice to see the same girl more than once, but unless you start to take her as a sort of GFE (not necessarily csnidering her a GF or a relationship) , due to culturale differencies, it starts to get "boring". First key point is the language barrier. Need someone who you can communicate easily, it is not only "do you smoke" or "till what time you stay LT?".

Nice experiences at the above joint. Clearly meant for japs, everything is written in JAP and they claim to speak it too. I saw 95% of customers being from JAP.

It's a nice setup also for people who cannot stand a lineup and find it intimidating. You get in the place (at the end of a small road off soi26) which is very clean and well kept.

You sit on a couch and one lady will hand you a catalog that you can view in peace. Every page has a big pic of a girl with stats and services (I recall OWO. 2 shots, busty, rim, etc). You can ask lady for help, they are all very nice and will help.

Once you do pick one girl, you have to tell if for 60min or 90min, shower / bath room, oil / aromatic etc, order a drink and pay in advance.

You wait few min (they will give you flip flop in exchange of your shoes) then your girl will come to pick you and escort in one of the room. And the fun will start. I saw 4 different girls and was happy 3 times. One especially (not on the web) due to her PSE approach.

The funny part is that the catalog is kept updated to the minute with label as "Girl is booked","busy" etc which vary based on actual situation. So if you pick a girl, all the catalogs (I saw 3) will be updated and your girl will be marked as "busy". You can even order / book and come back later. Price around 2100-2200 for 90min.

Nice place and concept.

[QUOTE=Otari;1328644]Do you have any idea about prices for Kamagra / Viagra in legitimate pharmacies?[/QUOTE]The little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking charges 400 to 500 baht for one tablet of Viagra.

But if you wait until 15 October you can buy the Thai Version, Silagra, for 25bt for a 50mg pill. .

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1328969]The little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking charges 400 to 500 baht for one tablet of Viagra.[/QUOTE]

I was there last year and everything Tits Lover states about the 101 premier massage is accurate.

There are a lot of Jappers because the owner of the place is a Japper.

Via a recommendation, I went in there and asked for Rio without even looking at the book, but she was not working at that time. Kind of a Romance roullet.

I would go back there

Continue telling us about new addresses, such as this massge place, that I will surely truy when I go next.

Talking about Japanese places, for those who like this kind of service, there is also Akane on soi 33. Not everyone cup of tea, I reckon, but if you like Japanese cat bath, etc. This is the place.

[QUOTE=Tits_Lover; 1328961]You can even order / book and come back later. Price around 2100-2200 for 90min.

Nice place and concept.[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate on the pricing? Is the price all inclusive for massage / FS? Multiple shots, tips, etc? Their website doesn't include pricing or menu, unlike most Japanese oriented establishments.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=Otari; 1328644]Does it mean that in pharmacies you will get a good stuff?

Do you have any idea about prices for Kamagra / Viagra in legitimate pharmacies?

Is Kamagra stronger than Viagra?[/QUOTE]Kamagra is just cheaper Viagra. 100 mg Kamagra = 100 mg Viagra and same strength if they measured it properly.

100 mg Viagra could blow your head off too!

100 mg Kamagra is of course much stronger than 25 mg Viagra and massively cheaper.

You could buy 25 mg Viagra which might be the perfect dosage for you, but you would waste a lot of money, when it's much cheaper to use a fragment of a Kamagra, be it quarter, or half.

Look, when I first tried a Viagra fragment to see what would happen, I was driving my car on the way to see this regular gig girl, and just the anticipation caused me a massive hard on in the car while driving. This does not happen to me if didn't take anything.

Friends who took a whole Kamagra gel sachet, without reserching on internet first, reported serious hot flush and headache problems, that spoilt there anticipated special fucking session.

You probably don't want to take Vit K (Kamagra) with your regular GF, as she might notice something strange or abnormal is going on, and ask what you are on. E. G."Why is your dick still hard after we finished? Or Why were you hard when I hadn't touched you yet? That doesn't normally happen."

I am so used to looking at girls completely nude, it doesn't give me a hard on any more. Alas, it's just normal stuff.

I think 400 Baht is standard for Kamagra 100 mg 4 tablet pack. Correct me if that is wrong please. Forget the "legit Pharmacy" bit. Plenty of small pharmacies in Bangkok are selling generic or copy products that violate American patents. They will sell you the official Viagra (without script) too, but at a much higher price. Buying Viagra is actually more risk of being ripped off, since you might pay a Viagra price, but get given immitation Viagra, not made by the original company. You wouldn't know unless your have an original pack to do a close comparison of watermarks, hologram, etc.

Lots of medicine / pills are available in cheaper generic varieties. E. G. You can buy expensive Azithromycin for Chlamydia, or a much cheaper generic equivalent, Ciproflax will have a cheaper generic, Telfast probably has a cheap alternative, etc.

Thailand, is the country where Levis might not be Levis, Adidas might not be, Viagra might not be, Louis Vitton might not be, etc. Unless you go to a very official store.

P.S. Mackin made a good point. Getting fit and losing weight may be a great sex power boost alternative to Pills. Having lost 7 Kg. myself, a long sex session hardly raises a sweat now and I don't find myself breathing heavily any more. Still at least another 7 Kg. to go. I will then be walking on cloud 9. There used to be a famous ISGer who lost a massive amount of weight and then became a sex-titan with all day multi-girl tag team sex marathons. He did take a lot of vitamins though, of many types.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1329269]Can you elaborate on the pricing? Is the price all inclusive for massage / FS? Multiple shots, tips, etc? Their website doesn't include pricing or menu, unlike most Japanese oriented establishments.

Thanks, [/QUOTE]Sure, price depends on length (60 or 90 min) and choice of massage: oil, aroma or thai (if I recall). Differences are about 100-300 BHT. I don't recall the 60min, but the 90min is around 2000-2300 if I am not mistaken. Go for the oil and save some money not picking aroma. Basically you buy the time and in the room you can skip the massage and get down to the fun part. It also depends on how you click with the girl I guess. You can get maybe the massage after the deed while recovering. FS is included but multi shots is not, some girls offer 2 times (see the catalog) and I understand they get paid higher for that. Many offer one shot only. Tips is extra and only if you wish, I haven't been asked for but I did tip once.

If you pick the bath room then you can bath together, otherwise you can go for the shower rooms. I guess the price is the same but depending on the time all the bath rooms but get busy quickly. Of course the pictures are photoshopped so be prepared. Go for a great looking but be ready to get an ok one.

Someone from Canada is a Canuck.

Someone from the United States of America is an American.

Someone from Thailand is a Thai.

So what does that make someone from Japan?

Get over it.

The New England Patriots are the Pats.

The Jacksonville Jaguars are the Jags.

So what does that make the Tenessee Titans?

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

The issue was regarding the use of the term "Jap" to refer to persons of Japanese ancestry.

Stated concisely: Some of you need to turn your "sensitivity radars" down a few notches.

Anyway, this cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Jackson

PS, I think MongerNick stated it perfectly:[/blue]

[QUOTE=MongerNick;1329639]Wow, I actually had to add my 2 cents worth.

We are talking about political correctness in a Forum discussing paying for sex. For real?

Titslover used in his explanation an abbreviation for japanese, and suddenly there are posts slamming him for being racially inconsiderate. Even after he apologized and stated he did not mean to be abusive? Maybe people should rethink their posts somewhat.

In one breath discussing how to screw a WG for less than some people make in an hour and in the next slamming someone for using an abbreviation of a nationality. This is really ironic and somewhat obtuse.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin; 1329717][blue]Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

The issue was regarding the use of the term "Jap" to refer to persons of Japanese ancestry.

Stated concisely: Some of you need to turn your "sensitivity radars" down a few notches.

Anyway, this cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Jackson.

PS, I think MongerNick stated it perfectly:[/blue][/QUOTE]I agree with Jackson, turn down your sensitivity radar, and enjoy life a little more.

Political correctness and all that. This is a Monger Forum. I also agree with what MongerNick said.

This famous massage parlor is known worldwide for its special massage, unique services and pretty masseuses. In business for 12 years, the business has built up a worldwide following and reputation and is one of the first stops for many visitors to Bangkok. The business has 50 full time employees with a payroll of around 1. 5 million a month.

The well-appointed 4 storey building has 8 private, nicely decorated rooms and covers 176 sqm over 4 floors with a monthly rent of 220, 000 baht that is negotiated on a year to year basis. Due to its worldwide reputation and return clientele this highly profitable business sees annual receipts of 37 million baht and a net profit of over 11. 6 million baht.

Located in the heart of Sukhumvit, this business is a destination of its own and that is reflected in its popularity.

The current owners purchased it over two years ago but are looking to sell as they wish to expand into other business.

ASKING PRICE: 35 million Baht.

Who has a guess?

[QUOTE=Rosco4444;1326269]You DFK a girl in a specialist BJ bar? That nice sweet taste was the residual of the last 25 BBBBCIM's she had done that day. Remember not to kiss mum when you get back home.LOL osco[/QUOTE]She probably wishes to do 24 BBBJCIM a week! That will make about less than 4 per day. I don't think they score more than that, honestly

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1329854]This famous massage parlor is known worldwide for its special massage, unique services and pretty masseuses. Who has a guess?[/QUOTE]What's the prize?

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1329545]Someone from Canada is a Canuck.

Someone from the United States of America is an American.

Someone from Thailand is a Thai.

So what does that make someone from Japan?

Get over it.

The New England Patriots are the Pats.

The Jacksonville Jaguars are the Jags.

So what does that make the Tenessee Titans?[/QUOTE]The British are the Brits,

The Australians are the Aussies.

I mentioned in the Bangkok Hotels thread that I would check out a new bar / club in Soi 33 soon: Lips.

Went there 2 days ago with a friend. Bar had 3 customers, approx. 10 girls, some of them are coyote dancers.

Very strange design, plain walls, no decoration, colors red, white, black. Tiles on the floor, steel-plastic furniture, everything is designed very technocratic and cold. I personally don't like it.

Music much too loud. 2 girls dancing on a kind of coyote stations, elevated platforms (1m above the floor) with some metal handles. Very strange.

A mamasan came to us to check out whether we wanted girls. I assume there will be coyote dancers (not going out with customers) and available hostesses. Girls quality was so-so, quite young girls for Soi 33. But not too bad.

Prices normal, bottle Singha 0. 33 l THB 149, 00. That's the same price as in Mojo's and Renoir (Livingstone's is of course cheaper :) ).

I don't know, may be I am too old for this new places, but I will not return. It just doesn't feel good. I still prefer Mojo's.

We did not ask for the girl prices, but one of my customers next day told me, that he was quoted THB 1,600.00 bar fine and THB 5,000.00 for all night.


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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1329545]So what does that make the Tenessee Titans?[/QUOTE]A joke of a franchise!

[QUOTE=FunLover100; 1307548]Hello guys,

I am planning to visit Bangkok and Phuket and want to ask has it been raining a lot?

What is level of activity these days. Are places open and running, tourists around or is it usually slow in the rain? Especially in Phuket. Don't want to land up being the only poor soul walking around drenched looking for some action.[/QUOTE]We have had heavy rains. All SP were washed into the sea. And there is not one tourist around because every one that made it to an airport in Thailand immediately got on board of another plane that flew him out!

[QUOTE=Admin;1329717][blue]...Stated concisely: Some of you need to turn your "sensitivity radars" down a few notches...[/blue][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1329773]I agree with Jackson, turn down your sensitivity radar, and enjoy life a little more.

Political correctness and all that. This is a Monger Forum. I also agree with what MongerNick said.[/QUOTE]Fine, lets call them Japs and Niggers then. Better names than wh0res? Who am I to object.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1329854]This famous massage parlor is known worldwide for its special massage, unique services and pretty masseuses. In business for 12 years, the business has built up a worldwide following and reputation and is one of the first stops for many visitors to Bangkok. The business has 50 full time employees with a payroll of around 1. 5 million a month.

The well-appointed 4 storey building has 8 private, nicely decorated rooms and covers 176 sqm over 4 floors with a monthly rent of 220, 000 baht that is negotiated on a year to year basis. Due to its worldwide reputation and return clientele this highly profitable business sees annual receipts of 37 million baht and a net profit of over 11. 6 million baht.

Located in the heart of Sukhumvit, this business is a destination of its own and that is reflected in its popularity.

The current owners purchased it over two years ago but are looking to sell as they wish to expand into other business.

ASKING PRICE: 35 million Baht.

Who has a guess?[/QUOTE]Going back to my original roots.

37 Mio THB is 3. 1 Mio THB per month what brings around 100K THB per day.

My guess is between 150 and 250 paying customers a day.

Looking to the profit data 50% of labor costs seems high but honestly I don't now Thailand data.

The net profit of 30% is normal in this context. The building-rent is the question mark.

The 176 sqm is not large and I guess this is wrong. The rental cost is 7%..

I also do not understand the 8 private rooms.

Imagine 30 people of staff and 30 customers on one moment the 176 square meters is overloaded.

So it seems that so information is missing.

I do not have any clue with parlor this must be.

But if the rest of the data is trustworth its BIG business. Anyone up who wants to invest 1. 0 Mio USD and become the owner of this

[QUOTE=Somewhere15; 1330029]...But if the rest of the data is trustworth its BIG business. Anyone up who wants to invest 1. 0 Mio USD and become the owner of this[/QUOTE]1 mio USD buys a lot of pussy and beer. Why would I want to invest that in a country like Thailand to buy trouble?

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1329545].

So what does that make the Tenessee Titans?[/QUOTE]Ten Tits? Or just Tits.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1329881]What's the prize?[/QUOTE]I will by a few beers for you when I'm there in Oct.

One of the joys of Bangkok is having a good haircut by a Thai lady whose boobs and crutch seem to be in contact most of the time. This followed by a manicure, a pedicure and a foot massage is an excellent first day activity in the morning. There used to be a place off Soi 9 (?) which then offered a full body massage which on occasions turned into B2B and FS.

Where?

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1330037]1 mio USD buys a lot of pussy and beer. Why would I want to invest that in a country like Thailand to buy trouble?[/QUOTE]To get more pussy and for sure more trouble. LOL.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1329854]This famous massage parlor is known worldwide for its special massage, unique services and pretty masseuses. In business for 12 years, the business has built up a worldwide following and reputation and is one of the first stops for many visitors to Bangkok. The business has 50 full time employees with a payroll of around 1. 5 million a month.

The well-appointed 4 storey building has 8 private, nicely decorated rooms and covers 176 sqm over 4 floors with a monthly rent of 220, 000 baht that is negotiated on a year to year basis. Due to its worldwide reputation and return clientele this highly profitable business sees annual receipts of 37 million baht and a net profit of over 11. 6 million baht.

Located in the heart of Sukhumvit, this business is a destination of its own and that is reflected in its popularity.

The current owners purchased it over two years ago but are looking to sell as they wish to expand into other business.

ASKING PRICE: 35 million Baht.

Who has a guess?[/QUOTE]Little Annie's, the massage parlor across the street of Majestic Grande?

[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1329854]This famous massage parlor is known worldwide for its special massage, unique services and pretty masseuses. In business for 12 years, the business has built up a worldwide following and reputation and is one of the first stops for many visitors to Bangkok. The business has 50 full time employees with a payroll of around 1. 5 million a month.

The well-appointed 4 storey building has 8 private, nicely decorated rooms and covers 176 sqm over 4 floors with a monthly rent of 220, 000 baht that is negotiated on a year to year basis. Due to its worldwide reputation and return clientele this highly profitable business sees annual receipts of 37 million baht and a net profit of over 11. 6 million baht.

Located in the heart of Sukhumvit, this business is a destination of its own and that is reflected in its popularity.

The current owners purchased it over two years ago but are looking to sell as they wish to expand into other business.

ASKING PRICE: 35 million Baht.

Who has a guess?[/QUOTE]I'll guess. Eden club.

Send prize

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1329854]This famous massage parlor is known worldwide for its special massage, unique services and pretty masseuses. In business for 12 years, The current owners purchased it over two years ago but are looking to sell as they wish to expand into other business.ASKING PRICE: 35 million Baht.Who has a guess?[/QUOTE]At first I'd say Akane, but the above hint make think of Eden too. As it is not long it hass a new ownership.

last time i visited bangkok i decided to visit the bj bars and see how they fared against each other.

i visited three bars this time around, dr bj's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and lollipop, out of the three i recommend lollipop and strongly discourage dr bj, horrific experience.

lollipop is off sukhumvit in a small alley, huge sign and pool table outside where you chose your girl, girls range from old aunties to a few younger ones, just one stunner but didn't get a good vibe from her. picked up a reasonably looking girl and went upstairs. the setup upstairs is basically the same as in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] but the place is much cleaner and definitely newer, otherwise the sop is same same as at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], get your clothes off, she kneels on the pillow and away she goes. she was extremely customer oriented, nice suction, and worked it real hard. went topless midway through and fs was definitely an option at this place, she finished the whole thing off by sucking me dry and swallowing, had a huge grin on her face afterwards, priceless!

will definitely come back here!

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], the old trustworthy place. i have never had a bad experience here, girls are really talented and swallows you whole. the options are not exactly the best in town, most girls are older and looks like they have been around for a while. i have never tried fs here but best guess is it is available if you ask upfront, they do have short time rooms.

i picked up a girl from downstairs, paid up and went upstairs, bunch of sofas covered with curtains and girl gets on a pillow between your legs and starts going to town on your member. really nice and good suck, the girl i had went all out and deep throated me, they are talented, if they only cleaned the place up a bit this would be the top notch place in bangkok.

a visit to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is a given every time i go to bangkok.

dr bj, huge disappointment, they do have the best looking girls and of course they offer vip girls for 300 more than the regular 700 that is standard.

i should have known that picking e was a bad choice, vip girl with large breasts, i always been a sucker for xl sized mammaries.

seemed good enough when we walked upstairs but once in the room it was all issues, no touching, she wouldn't go topless, spat on the dick (too many porns i guess.) didn't even bother to pretend to be into it. i asked her at one point if it all was so fucking horrible then why the fuck was she there, her reply was,"yeah, i don't know".

sucking was ok but no swallowing and she almost spat it back on me. fuck!

horrid experience, and this was paying extra for a vip girl.

rooms are small, and has a chair like those in korean places if you seen that, on the way up to the third floor you pass the girls dormitory on the second floor, mattresses and sleepeers.

all in all i wouldn't recommend dr bj, service was bad and they charged extra, no asking for feedback on returning downstairs and the girl hovering for f-ing tip, should you go there despite my warning i recommend you to stay away from e at least, nasty experience

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1330118]One of the joys of Bangkok is having a good haircut by a Thai lady whose boobs and crutch seem to be in contact most of the time. This followed by a manicure, a pedicure and a foot massage is an excellent first day activity in the morning. There used to be a place off Soi 9 (?) which then offered a full body massage which on occasions turned into B2B and FS.

Where?[/QUOTE]Off soi 9? It's impossible

[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1330188]I'll guess. Eden club.

Send prize[/QUOTE]Couldn't be because Eden is not a massage palour and does not have pretty masseuses. Check CL under business for sale and where you'll see a large number of places for sale, several like the one listed here.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1330235]At first I'd say Akane, but the above hint make think of Eden too. As it is not long it hass a new ownership.[/QUOTE]On second thought, you might be right: Akane fits the description. It also changed ownership about 2 years ago, where they moved to a new and nicer location, but then the last time I was there, it was closed down. But my wingman reported to me 2 months ago, that Akane is open again, but not sure if he mentioned it is back in its original location or the newer one.

Except the part about having 50 girls.

Quick report:

I spent a 2 nights here, different nights over a 3 week period while on a work trip. Was a great place for a base of operations. But back to the report:

I spent time with a lady named Mi aw, not sure how to spell but sound like what the sound a cat makes! She was great, personality was fantastic and everything was on the table. Started with great massage, cat bath, then into a slow BBBJ. Anal and others were offered but did not accept. Only down side was she kept asking to drink from mini bar. If I say no it meas no! But apart from that really good session.

Personality: 9/10.

Looks: 6/10 (was litte bit older but very good personality makes up for it)

Sex: 9/10 great energy and positions

BBBJ: 7/10.

Cost: 2500 plus bar fine short time

Over all very apply

Hey gang,

I'll be in Bangkok for a few days this up coming week. Does anyone know where I could maybe fine twins or a mother and daughter team at? Its my first trip so all I know is where thre airport is, you get the picture.

[QUOTE=WeaverWorld; 1330242]I should have known that picking E was a bad choice, VIP girl with large breasts, I always been a sucker for XL sized mammaries. [/QUOTE] E is known, from Annie's time, not to have the best tits in town.

Result of a very poor silocon job by a doctor who should have been banned from the profession.

I took her once in Annie's as apart that she seemed attractive (pictures do play a role) and was not much happy. Too much mechanical. Doing the job without much passion (it is a job, yeah, right, but at some degree they got to put some into it). Always hiding her breasts when she removed the bra (I can imagine why) by keeping a towel.

I could dimagine why she moved to DrBJ as there she does not necessary have to go full naked. But she seems not much into the job there either. She might get custsomres by the initial look but not read many positive reports.

[QUOTE=SuperRaven;1330281]Quick report:I spent a 2 nights here, different nights over a 3 week period while on a work trip. Was a great place for a base of operations. But back to the report:Over all very apply[/QUOTE]Wow. One of the very few reports on LL girls. Quite unusual to read them here, so more than welcome!

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1329918]I mentioned in the Bangkok Hotels thread that I would check out a new bar / club in Soi 33 soon: Lips. Music much too loud. Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Seems a lot of places like to inundate the customers with loud music for unknown reasons. I agree. Useles to shout it loud. Seems Soi 33 BF keep on being on the high end (not to mention the price asked). Does it make sense in a down market where, as you reported, there are 3 Customer sand 10 girls? Kepeing the (3) customers in the bar and spend their money in drinks and not in the girl will not raise much money anyhow.

[QUOTE=SuperRaven;1330281]Only down side was she kept asking to drink from mini bar.[/QUOTE]I object to Hotels filling the fridge with mini-bar stuff, so I take theirs out and put my own stuff in, plus maybe whatever you think the girl might like, which could be Spy, juice or beer. The Hotel drinks can return to the fridge at the end of my stay. I don't want to drink Evian Water! Plain water is good stuff.

One excellent point about the Admiral Premier Hotel, is that they provide a huge fridge, with adequate freezer, kitchenette with cooking facilities, plates and cutlery, and fridge is stocked with nothing except the free water. They have no mini-bar at all. This is a fabulous concept, for those who like to do things themselves. However bring your own girls. The downside of AP is the bathroom is a bit too pokey, and breakfast closes a bit too early at 10. 30 (start packing up at 10. 15).

I understand Hotels are trying to make money from mini-bars, but its not for me either. I am on a controlled diet these days.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1330288]Seems a lot of places like to inundate the customers with loud music for unknown reasons. I agree. Useles to shout it loud. Seems Soi 33 BF keep on being on the high end (not to mention the price asked). Does it make sense in a down market where, as you reported, there are 3 Customer sand 10 girls? Kepeing the (3) customers in the bar and spend their money in drinks and not in the girl will not raise much money anyhow.[/QUOTE]The main source of income for the business is exactly that: keep the customer in the bar drinking. That is where they. The owners. Make the money. The high bar fine is to compensate the loss in drinks and to discourage too many girls taken out fast, and leaving the place empty, where no one will stop and drink if they are gone. I had a GF who worked at LL. The girls are paid a salary, are required to have a certain amount of lady drinks a month, but only required to go with customer twice a month. Any more is up to the girl only. The establishments prefers the girls staying there.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1330028]Fine, lets call them Japs and Niggers then. Better names than wh0res? Who am I to object.[/QUOTE]Tiger888,

It should be no surprise that I will chime in on this. This topic has been breach before. Tit Lover maked a mistake and he apologise for it. As far as I'm concern he is out of the picture but living here for a number of years now and meeting lots of others Expats from different parts of USA and I've been through most of it and being around many Europeans I know now that such phases are commonly used in their daily conversation but not in front of the actual person they are offending so go ahead and do it but there will come a time a place that it is not proper even on this forum and some use of restrain must be used.

I have seen replies like tone it down its a mongering site, political correctness and all the other bullshit people come up with to justify a term is used regularly to describe someone even using sports and the NFL to make the comparision. Sorry PP you are way off on this one! What about Texas Rednecks or Idaho KKK, have you heard of the Toyo Japs or Nips? We are talking apples from oranges!

Please don't use political correctless to justify a racial slur it only makes you look more white and a racist and please don't try to justify it being a mongering or sex site if that is the case keep the Penthouse Thread and lets talk about Lady Boys that is all about the sex? Lets talk about everything and not coming on chiming " lets get back to the subject " it only makes oneself look even more racists by picking and choosing what you want to talk about. I guess if its white it must be right for some of you guys. In one of my history lessons I read that White people are the most oppressive people in the world I guess you can find them on a sex site too.

If it is so o.k. lets open the door and let it all out so everyone could see who they are really dealing with instead of a bunch of cowards hiding behind the screen.

Tiger you the man for saying what needs to be said!

LBM

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1330293]I object to Hotels filling the fridge with mini-bar stuff,[/QUOTE]When I remove the mini-gins. Vodkas. I always check the bottles. It is very easy to find that the previous guest has used them and filled them with water!

Litre of duty free vodka, mini markets for mixers and I am set up.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1330293]I object to Hotels filling the fridge with mini-bar stuff, so I take theirs out and put my own stuff in, plus maybe whatever you think the girl might like, which could be Spy, juice or beer. The Hotel drinks can return to the fridge at the end of my stay.[/QUOTE]Exactly the reason why I never drink anything from the mini-bar. Who knows how many times you guys have unloaded and reloaded the mini-bar stuff?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1330347]Tiger888,

Tiger you the man for saying what needs to be said!

LBM[/QUOTE]And you too, LBM!

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1330271]Couldn't be because Eden is not a massage palour and does not have pretty masseuses.[/QUOTE]I am not too sure that Eden is not working under a massage parlour licence. Since "brothel licences" officially do not exists in Thailand an MP-licence is what comes closest and actually allows the masseuses somewhat to "interact" with the customers.

And as far as "pretty" is concerned, that is in the eye of the beholder of course. ;)

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1330374]I am not too sure that Eden is not working under a massage parlour licence. Since "brothel licences" officially do not exists in Thailand an MP-licence is what comes closest and actually allows the masseuses somewhat to "interact" with the customers.

And as far as "pretty" is concerned, that is in the eye of the beholder of course. .[/QUOTE]Since you're not too sure I will ask them the time I stop by. As for beauty or pretty, it's a myth that it is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty is a constant, who we are attracted to is a diffferent story but no one is likely interested in this so here the new link for Eden's site.

[url]http://www.edenbangkok.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1329335]I think 400 Baht is standard for Kamagra 100 mg 4 tablet pack. Correct me if that is wrong please.[/QUOTE]It appears I must correct myself. The 400 Baht is old hat, it seems. I have just been told the 2nd Pharmacy East of Suk Soi 4 toward Soi 2 now has Kamagra 4 tablet sheets for 300 Baht.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1330370]Exactly the reason why I never drink anything from the mini-bar. Who knows how many times you guys have unloaded and reloaded the mini-bar stuff?[/QUOTE]Does re-chilling degrade drinks?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1330460]Does re-chilling degrade drinks?[/QUOTE]I do not think it is the re-chilling that is the problem. Rather the re-heating.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1330390]Since you're not too sure I will ask them the time I stop by. As for beauty or pretty, it's a myth that it is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty is a constant, who we are attracted to is a diffferent story but no one is likely interested in this so here the new link for Eden's site.

[url]http://www.edenbangkok.com/[/url][/QUOTE]You will see that on the web-site they call their ladies "masseuses".

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1329545]Someone from Canada is a Canuck.

Someone from the United States of America is an American.

Someone from Thailand is a Thai.

So what does that make someone from Japan?

Get over it.

The New England Patriots are the Pats.

The Jacksonville Jaguars are the Jags.

So what does that make the Tenessee Titans?[/QUOTE]I wish the world would be as simple as that.

Yes, and Pakistanis are Pakis. In the Uk, and most other western european countries shouting " Paki" to a person from the subcontinent can lead to an heavy fine or more.

If you cannot see the difference between calling a Thai man, a Tha, I and Pakistanis Pakis, then you are a definitivelya lost case. I'll try to explian though: The difference is the perception of the person who is on the receiving end, not on the intention of the one saying it. Simple isn'it?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1330488]I do not think it is the re-chilling that is the problem. Rather the re-heating.[/QUOTE]Certainly not on soft drinks.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1330460]Does re-chilling degrade drinks?[/QUOTE]Yes, for beer and some juices, temperature fluctuations can causes spoilage of some kind. I always ask that the hotel remove the beverages and snacks from the mini bar if I get my own at the market.

Also, snacks that are not in vacuum sealed packaging can absorb moisture if they are subjected to removal from cold, low humidity environment to the normal Thai temperature and humidity. Moisture equals spoilage if not addressed in a timely manner. Food poisoning does not make for a fun vacation.

Yea, I know, I am not a nice guy, but if I find the right one?

It seems to me the dating site girls are getting smarter.

Up until April of this year, I had much luck with these sites.

Several times when meeting the girls at my hotel lobby I would get the "Can I see your Loom".

Within a few minutes I had my tongue in their pussy.

Now, it seems they are a lot more cautious. What is your work? Go on Skype? What is your address? Where you stay in BKK? How long you be here? What is your USA phone number? Send me more photos. I think I bring a friend with me. Blah, blah, blah, and many more personal questions.

I guess the word is out?

what soi no?

thank you.

[quote=weaverworld; 1330242]last time i visited bangkok i decided to visit the bj bars and see how they fared against each other.

i visited three bars this time around, dr bj's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and lollipop, out of the three i recommend lollipop and strongly discourage dr bj, horrific experience.

lollipop is off sukhumvit in a small alley, huge sign and pool table outside where you chose your girl,

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1330587]Yea, I know, I am not a nice guy, but if I find the right one?

It seems to me the dating site girls are getting smarter.

Several times when meeting the girls at my hotel lobby I would get the "Can I see your Loom".

Within a few minutes I had my tongue in their pussy.

Now, it seems they are a lot more cautious. What is your work? Go on Skype? What is your address? Where you stay in BKK? How long you be here? What is your USA phone number? Send me more photos. I think I bring a friend with me. Blah, blah, blah, and many more personal questions.

I guess the word is out?[/QUOTE]They probably got close enough to smell the pussy on your breath! LOL.

Even through the phone, it has an unmistakable smell!

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1330587]It seems to me the dating site girls are getting smarter.[/QUOTE]That or the punters getting Dumber. I vote for #2

[quote=henryv; 1330595]what soi no?

thank you.

[quote=weaverworld; 1330242]last time i visited bangkok i decided to visit the bj bars and see how they fared against each other.

i visited three bars this time around, dr bj's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and lollipop, out of the three i recommend lollipop and strongly discourage dr bj, horrific experience.

lollipop is off sukhumvit in a small alley, huge sign and pool table outside where you chose your girl, [/quote]it is soi 10

Thank you very much for your advice. I'll use vitamin K and V with moderation.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1330504]I wish the world would be as simple as that.

Yes, and Pakistanis are Pakis. In the Uk, and most other western european countries shouting "Paki" to a person from the subcontinent can lead to an heavy fine or more.

If you cannot see the difference between calling a Thai man, a Tha, I and Pakistanis Pakis, then you are a definitivelya lost case. I'll try to explian though: The difference is the perception of the person who is on the receiving end, not on the intention of the one saying it. Simple isn'it?[/QUOTE]I'll take no issues with your comment here.

My post was in jest, not meant to be taken seriously.

You don't think the Tenessee Titans are known as the Tits, do you?

I think some Titans fans might have a problem with that.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1330283]E is known, from Annie's time, not to have the best tits in town.

Result of a very poor silocon job by a doctor who should have been banned from the profession.

I took her once in Annie's as apart that she seemed attractive (pictures do play a role) and was not much happy. Too much mechanical. Doing the job without much passion (it is a job, yeah, right, but at some degree they got to put some into it). Always hiding her breasts when she removed the bra (I can imagine why) by keeping a towel.

I could dimagine why she moved to DrBJ as there she does not necessary have to go full naked. But she seems not much into the job there either. She might get custsomres by the initial look but not read many positive reports.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to the lady "EE: Consultant Name: Take's Itdeep"?

[QUOTE=]Age: Late 20's.

Body type: Medium Skin, Tall, slim large silicone chest

Description: Fluent English, very smart, well educated, speaks some Italian also. Very good for VIP room, offers many different services. One of the best service ladies we have. The perfect lips for the job.

Dr. BJ's recommendation level 9. 9/10.

Can be taken out and also works with other ladies couples and 2 men at a time.[/QUOTE][url]http://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1330488]I do not think it is the re-chilling that is the problem. Rather the re-heating.[/QUOTE]I am not good at switching the air-con off, so I don't think they get exactly hot. I doubt that Hotels store drinks refridgerated all the time too nor drink suppliers where they came from. These are not vintage wines we are talking about, that may require better temp control.

I once stayed at a Hotel in Zurich which had a sign on the small fridge saying that it was for mini-bar only and not for the customers personal use. Naturally I took no notice. What use is a Hotel room without a usable fridge? I don't pay for 24 hour room service.

My understanding is that beer and I assume wine is in a dark bottle to prevent spoilage. Clear bottles allow the light to get in and it will spoil faster. Constant heating and reheating will also spoil the beverage. Now all this could depend on the type of drink, such as wiskey, rum, beer, or wine. Do we have any brew masters or chemists among us to clarify this question.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1330865]I am not good at switching the air-con off, so I don't think they get exactly hot.[/QUOTE]Many modern hotels switch all appliances (except the fridge) off when you withdraw the keycard from its slot in the wall. Although the room will not get sweltering hot it will quickly reach about 25C or more in Thailand. That is still 10C cooler than outside so it feels somewhat cool. And even if you leave the aircon on, the room will still be warmer than 20C. Personally I find anything below 22C too cold in any climate. Especially for our hobby, I like a cosy temperature.

I saw someone mention this. Is there a location that provides a decent haircut, shave, mani pedi massage? Perfect world would be getting a haircut while getting my head taken care of.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1330841]I'll take no issues with your comment here.

My post was in jest, not meant to be taken seriously.

QUOTE]

Fair enough.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1330745]I was thinking last night watching 4 ippuns go into a bra.[/QUOTE]A lot of comments have been made about how "small" our Japanese brothers are. But this is rather extreme!

[QUOTE=BadDances; 1330918]I saw someone mention this. Is there a location that provides a decent haircut, shave, mani pedi massage? Perfect world would be getting a haircut while getting my head taken care of.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The shop we're talking about is on Soi 11 at the entrance to the small soi where Sabai Sabai Massage used to be. I think Sabai Sabai Massage is gone now. There is a popular Mexican restaurant in that soi now. The barber / beauty shop has a second floor where the action took place. I don't know if they still do full service upstairs.

[QUOTE=Allover;1331054]The shop we're talking about is on Soi 11 at the entrance to the small soi where Sabai Sabai Massage used to be. I think Sabai Sabai Massage is gone now. There is a popular Mexican restaurant in that soi now. The barber / beauty shop has a second floor where the action took place. I don't know if they still do full service upstairs.[/QUOTE]Thank you; you are spot on.

I recall having a haircut and manicure followed by a massage. Towards the end of the massage I was offered a HE and, pushing my luck, I said 'what about boom-boom? ' Discussion with another lady took place the gist of which was that she would guard the stairs whilst I had a quickie. I remember, in the end another customer wanted a massage and no way was I going to enjoy boom boom separated from the next cubicle by a flimsy curtain.

Come early November.

Yeah totally agree, but got darn drunk at the bar and was like what the hell, cbf moving on. But funny the girl said I over paid, I responded in my slur, it's you lucky day. But need to correct price this girl was 1800, but still over paid on service measurement not on looks as I have had much better for less. But will give credit for personality, I had a few birds from the road near terminal 21 that seemed more interested in looking at them selves in the mirror than performing.

But will agree on over payment.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1330740]Dude! So you're the guy overpaying. LOL. Makes it tuff for the rest of us.

You way overpaid for a girl you consider not that hot.

You pay for looks not SERVICE![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1330889]Many modern hotels switch all appliances (except the fridge) off when you withdraw the keycard from its slot in the wall. Although the room will not get sweltering hot it will quickly reach about 25C or more in Thailand. That is still 10C cooler than outside so it feels somewhat cool. And even if you leave the aircon on, the room will still be warmer than 20C. Personally I find anything below 22C too cold in any climate. Especially for our hobby, I like a cosy temperature.[/QUOTE]Travel with a spare 'credit card' shape (another hotel's key card) and use this instead of the room card to ensure non-stop a / see.

Some hotels are getting wise and use 'funny shapes' to stop this but a bit of creative woodwork can often ensure 100% a / c.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1330889]Many modern hotels switch all appliances (except the fridge) off when you withdraw the keycard from its slot in the wall.[/QUOTE]No I don't like to withdraw. I usually have more than one card (since always book for two persons minimum). Only a dummy would not notice the air con and lights were off when returning to the room.

Would be nice if I had more than one dick too, since I like having concurrent girls.

[QUOTE=BadDances; 1330918]I saw someone mention this. Is there a location that provides a decent haircut, shave, mani pedi massage? Perfect world would be getting a haircut while getting my head taken care of.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Soi 15, Smile Salon. About 20 meters from Soi entance on left side. Salon and massage parlor.

I a little confused with what is being said. I thought Sabai sabai was in Pattaya and this is the Bangkok thread. Did I misunderstand. Then Duniawala says soi 15 which sounds more like Bangkok. Is this Bangkok? Also I assume you mean off Sukumvet on soi 15?

Please correct my misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1331251]I a little confused with what is being said. I thought Sabai sabai was in Pattaya and this is the Bangkok thread. Did I misunderstand. Then Duniawala says soi 15 which sounds more like Bangkok. Is this Bangkok? Also I assume you mean off Sukumvet on soi 15?

Please correct my misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]You could have as well written: I thought Mc Donald's was in Pattaya. This is Bangkok. Do I misunderstand something? The difference is probably that Sabai sabai is not a franchise.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1331251]I a little confused with what is being said. I thought Sabai sabai was in Pattaya and this is the Bangkok thread. Did I misunderstand. Then Duniawala says soi 15 which sounds more like Bangkok. Is this Bangkok? Also I assume you mean off Sukumvet on soi 15?

Please correct my misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]Simple Answer is : Sabai Sabai Massage was in Sukhumvit Soi 11. Someone wrote that it has closed.

[QUOTE=Monte Q; 1330295]. I had a GF who worked at LL. The girls are paid a salary, are required to have a certain amount of lady drinks a month, but only required to go with customer twice a month.[/QUOTE]?

Strange, I thought, I was running the show here.

Nonsense! The girls are paid a salary, but they are NOT required to make a certain amount of lady drinks, and they are NOT required to go with a customer AT ALL! That's definitely NOT TRUE!

If they make a lot of barfines and / or ladydrinks they will get a bonus = higher salary! Our system is exactly the other way around from what was written in that report.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

I was in BKK recently and called into G's new restaurant in Patpong 2.

[url]www.GsBangkok.com[/url]



A good menu, with some nice German dishes. EXCELLENT Goulash soup with home made bread and a nice, friendly welcome from 'Mine Host. '

A nice place for 'people watching' in the early evening.

Worth a try if you are in the area.

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1331251]I a little confused with what is being said. I thought Sabai sabai was in Pattaya and this is the Bangkok thread. Did I misunderstand. Then Duniawala says soi 15 which sounds more like Bangkok. Is this Bangkok? Also I assume you mean off Sukumvet on soi 15?

Please correct my misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is in BKK. I assume that you wanted a place in BKK and not Pattaya. The salon is on Sukhumvit Soi 15.

Yes < I was just trying to clarify the information. The only Sabai Sabai that I was aware of was in Pattaya. Then someone says it is closed. I was not aware there was a placed called that in Bangkok. Never having used the Sabai in Pattaya I was not familar with what surrounds it. Allover states that it is on soi 11 where Sabai Sabai used to be. So only being aware of the one in Pattaya and knowing I was on the BKK threads I was confused a little. Simple answer that Sabai Sabai was in Sumkumvet soi 11 clears the question. Thank all for the info. Might need to try the salon in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1331154]Would be nice if I had more than one dick too, since I like having concurrent girls.[/QUOTE]What did the man with 5 dicks say to the woman with five pussies?

You fit me like a glove!

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1330842]Are you referring to the lady "EE: Consultant Name: Take's Itdeep"?

[url]http://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, she is the one I am referring too. Used to work at Annie's.

Can someone explain to me what is the difference between "Bangkok" and "Bangkok Reports" threads?

Before one thread, now we have to look at two threads.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1175559]Sorry about this thread. I posted it by mistake one night when downloading some photos. I immediately e-mailed Jackson and asked him to delete it, but he appears to be asleep at the wheel (except for ladyboy references).

I'm surprised it has any legs at all.[/QUOTE]I had a look at beginning of this 'Bangkok' thread. Above post by FonTok explains its origins.

Yeh better if its closed down. Confusing, with two Bangkok threads.

Looks like we've got it figured out now but I'll try to clarify. Sabai Land, Sabai Dee, and Sabai Room are body massage / soapies in Pattaya. Sabai Sabai is a massage place off Soi 11 in Bangkok. Sabai Sabai offered HJ inhouse and full service was available if you took the girl out. I walked down the soi where Sabai Sabai was located a few weeks ago. I didn't see it but can't confirm with certainty that it is closed. It was late and night and I may have just missed it.

I'm sure many of us BKK old timers visited Sabai Sabai at one time or another.

Sabai Sabai is no longer on Soi 11 they moved to 13.

[url]http://www.sabaisabaimassage.com/[/url]

There was a soft police check in NEP Tuesday night a bit before midnight. LE set a few table desk and all girls were coming from various bars to line up and be registered. I asked around and seems it is a LE action on drug use.

I did not see any test being carried) unless they have to go for test in some medical lab in the following days.

Nothing to do with farangs.

In some go-go, there were very few customers, but others were decently patronized.

Not much of a seller market seemed to me, but prices remain the same: BF 600, ST 2000 (one pop or max2hrs, but the girls have a degree of flexibility if you are a handsome men.) , LT 4000.

Night heavy rains represent quite a disturbance.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1331806]Sabai Sabai is no longer on Soi 11 they moved to 13.

[url]http://www.sabaisabaimassage.com/[/url][/QUOTE]There are no rates on the website. Anyone have recent experience of the 2 hr outcall rate?

Rosco

I just used them. Very pretty girl showed up but one of the few they have. She changed into small tight shorts and was very sexy. Was giving a very weak oil massage when I asked the question of where this was heading. She gave me the quote of 5000 baht for all services. She did not come down and I settled with a hand job for 1000 baht. She completely undressed and let me enjoy touching. I thought they were way too high in price. Would anyone recommend a private gal that would do hotel outcalls for a more reasonable price for all services?

[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1331933]There are no rates on the website. Anyone have recent experience of the 2 hr outcall rate?

Rosco[/QUOTE]

I used them recently. The oil massage cost 600 baht and was quoted 5000 baht for all services. I think very high. Can anyone recommend a good outcall provider that is not so costly?

Any recommendation besides Insomnia or Climax to pick-up FL?

[QUOTE=Appcid01;1331991]I used them recently. The oil massage cost 600 baht and was quoted 5000 baht for all services. I think very high. Can anyone recommend a good outcall provider that is not so costly?[/QUOTE]Walk into any MP in Suk and ask. You should be able to get it for 1/2 what you say here.

[QUOTE=AppCid01;1331988](snip) Would anyone recommend a private gal that would do hotel outcalls for a more reasonable price for all services?[/QUOTE]Just go to any agogo in Soi Cowboy or Nana. For 5000 baht you can pick anyone and take her with you to your room for a whole night and if you ask nicely she might even give you a massage. ;) If you have some negotiating skills you can bring that price down. Of course in a soapie or oily with your dick in her hands, negotiating the price gets much more difficult.

It are just different markets. Go to the oilies or soapies for massage+ in their shop; but go to the bars or clubs for fun in your room.

How do you ask for CIM in Thai?

Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1332149]Of course in a soapie or oily with your dick in her hands, negotiating the price gets much more difficult.[/QUOTE]:confused: Seems a silly thing to say. I guess its some form of joke you are making again. Strange humour. Negotiating at a Soapy is not something I do (you pay at the start and any extra tip is related to her performance and hard work) , nor at an Oily, nor even at bars for the most part. If I was going to negotiate, it would be up front. In the middle of sex, negotiation would not even occur to me. Definitely a mood killer.

[QUOTE=AppCid01;1331991]I used them recently. The oil massage cost 600 baht and was quoted 5000 baht for all services. I think very high. Can anyone recommend a good outcall provider that is not so costly?[/QUOTE]Yes that's super expensive. Check out the oily's on S24 and 22. Outcalls there at 2500-2700 inclusive. 2hrs.

Rosco

[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1332228]Yes that's super expensive. Check out the oily's on S24 and 22. Outcalls there at 2500-2700 inclusive. 2hrs.

Rosco[/QUOTE]That is not a set price as each girl will quote you their own price. Sabai had prices listed on their old site but the price was only for the massage service and was like 1000B outcall for two hours. You would then negotiate a price with the girl for her services, similar to the services of wonderland massage below.

The price she quoted him of 5000B for FS is in the escort price range and 1000B for a HJ is also high even with touching. The prices you quoted above are much more in line with many of the other massage shop outcall services.

[url]http://www58.tok2.com/home/wonderland/page10.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1332190]:confused: Seems a silly thing to say. I guess its some form of joke you are making again. Strange humour. Negotiating at a Soapy is not something I do (you pay at the start and any extra tip is related to her performance and hard work) , nor at an Oily, nor even at bars for the most part. If I was going to negotiate, it would be up front. In the middle of sex, negotiation would not even occur to me. Definitely a mood killer.[/QUOTE]Seems pretty judgmental on your part. Maybe you missed the context of his advise to AppCid01. I thought it was good advice since the OP was looking for guidance on pricing.

[QUOTE=Card Boy;1332005]Any recommendation besides Insomnia or Climax to pick-up FL?[/QUOTE]Shock 69, CM2, Bossy, Spasso, Q-Bar, Bed and Supper Club, Titanium, Thermae, Bangkok Beat. This should keep you occupied for a while.

read today the thais are planning for 2014 f1 gp on the streets of bangkok, night race. not too sure what the thais hope to achieve by hosting what has become an outrageously expensive high speed circus. i think they have rigged a couple races this season, imho. williams winning in spain, haha.

[quote=noddy;1332284]read today the thais are planning for 2014 f1 gp on the streets of bangkok, night race. not too sure what the thais hope to achieve by hosting what has become an outrageously expensive high speed circus. i think they have rigged a couple races this season, imho. williams winning in spain, haha.[/quote]oh yeah!

thailandia in omnia est divisa in partes tres: the maniacs in the north, the brain-deads in the south - and the complete idiots in bangkok.


giotto

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1332190]:confused: Seems a silly thing to say. I guess its some form of joke you are making again. Strange humour. Negotiating at a Soapy is not something I do (you pay at the start and any extra tip is related to her performance and hard work) , nor at an Oily, nor even at bars for the most part. If I was going to negotiate, it would be up front. In the middle of sex, negotiation would not even occur to me. Definitely a mood killer.[/QUOTE]Yes, totally silly. Always negotiate up front. If you go for a simple massage and half way through you decide to change your mind, you are in a weak bargaining position. Especially if by that time you are already sporting a hard-on.

A little off-topic here, but I hope you'll bear with me.

Used to party like a rockstar in Bangkok, but this is a long time ago. Had some local buddies who made it possible, good guys. Well this is over 30 years ago, and I have lost all contact with them. Anyone know if there may be some way to locate those guys? Made a serious effort some years ago, but no luck. Any one know of a government agency or any other way? Willing to pay if necessary. All I have is their names.

Any advice / help appreciated in advance.

[QUOTE=MountainDude; 1332151]How do you ask for CIM in Thai?

Anyone know?[/QUOTE]I carry a plastic wiener with me filled with milk. I simulate CIM with them and get a head nod, yes or no.

If that does not work. Just grab onto the back of their skull and hold it there until you finish.

[QUOTE=Keeper50; 1332356]A little off-topic here, but I hope you'll bear with me.

Used to party like a rockstar in Bangkok, but this is a long time ago. Had some local buddies who made it possible, good guys. Well this is over 30 years ago, and I have lost all contact with them. Anyone know if there may be some way to locate those guys? Made a serious effort some years ago, but no luck. Any one know of a government agency or any other way? Willing to pay if necessary. All I have is their names.

Any advice / help appreciated in advance.[/QUOTE]Try a private detective agency: [url]http://www.thaiprivateeye.com/[/url]

For sure there are many others, but this one has a good reputation.

[QUOTE=MountainDude; 1332151]How do you ask for CIM in Thai?

Anyone know?[/QUOTE]Probably something like "lang naam gaam nai bpaak" or "gwaat lang naam gaam" or "gwaat lang dtaawng" (more colloquial)

And if you do not want her to spit it out, tell her "Mai khaai"

Or just tell her "Can I come in your mouth". Most SW will understand.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1332462]Probably something like "lang naam gaam nai bpaak" or "gwaat lang naam gaam" or "gwaat lang dtaawng" (more colloquial)

And if you do not want her to spit it out, tell her "Mai khaai"

Or just tell her "Can I come in your mouth". Most SW will understand.[/QUOTE]Another joke? You want to learn Thai from the Wolf?

"lang naam gaam nai bpaak" translated would be something like "rinse water of sexual desire in mouth" (depending on tones) , but really its not rinsing you do with sperm.

"gwaat" means to sweep or sweep away."gwaat lang" can mean to "get rid of" like as in a criminal gang is wiped out or corruption is wiped out. Not relevant I think.

"Mai khaai" means "not spitting out", but is not a request or instruction."yaa" means "don't do" something.

I think the wolf has been using the dictionary too much, instead of getting a natural expression from a Thai speaker.

I have never heard a Thai girl use the phrase "naam gaam" "water of sexual desire" which doesn't mean its not possible but sounds a bit funny to me. I am never speaking English with Thai MP girls. Always Thai. The normal phrase is "naam asuji" for sperm.

Here is what you really might say:

"Set nai bpaak dai mai" simply means "finish in (your) mouth, may I?"

"Set" means "to finish" but is the common word for "cumming" or orgasm.

"yaa khaay, dai mai" is a request to not spit it out, which is a bit sick really (what she does with it is up to her). But you have to be careful to get the right tone. Khaay could mean a camp or to sell something.

I'm impressed.

[QUOTE=David_33;1332562]I'm impressed.[/QUOTE]Impressed with?

His command of Thai. I gave up after an hour of trying to learn even a few words from the Loretta Stone course I purchased in an optimistic frame of mind.

[QUOTE=David_33;1332648]His command of Thai. I gave up after an hour of trying to learn even a few words from the Loretta Stone course I purchased in an optimistic frame of mind.[/QUOTE]David,

Rosetta Stone is okay for Vocab but very weak on speaking practice. You need repetative speaking drills to program it into the brain. Its not easy at the beginning.

A language requires great persistance (practise every day early on). I began studying Thai 20 years ago. 6 hours per week in a class. The first few months is about understanding the pronunciation more than anything else with a few basic phrases. Learn sounds that don't exist in English and learn tones. Thai Grammar is very easy. After that its just vocab and then can learn by yourself as long as have a teacher to correct pronunciation and phrases from time to time. I spent time with Thai girls 20 years ago who could not speak English. That forced my Thai to progress. After a basic command is reached, watching Thai Soapies on the TV can help. Thai News is only for really advanced speakers.

These days you can study Thai over the internet / Skype not too expensively from a foreign country but with a Thai teacher here in Thailand.

Many Farangs think they can speak Thai really great but actually sound funny with suspect pronunciation. Only a Thai can really say if we are good or not.

After 20 years, I still get wrong pronunciation corrected by a 12 year old kid.

Start learning Thai as young as possible. As we get older, it gets tougher to do things completely different to what we are used to.

Right now, I'm learning some Isaan dialect. Bar girls will often be yacking in Isaan style Thai which I only follow partially.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1332687]As we get older, it gets tougher to do things[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm beginning to have problems with English.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1332687]David,

Rosetta Stone is okay for Vocab but very weak on speaking practice. You need repetative speaking drills to program it into the brain. Its not easy at the beginning[/QUOTE]Your post is spot on.

I myself am presently teaching myself Thai. I can't vouch for Rosetta Stone but can for Sybervision / Pimsleur.

Sybervision uses a conversational learning technique. You start learning key words and the course teaches you how use those to put together sentences. But like you say, a recording can't hammer you for missing the subtleties of the pronunciation. I figure I will get through all the lessons, then skype with a teacher to hit on my weak points and pronunciation.

Sybervision served me well through Spanish and German. I definitely thought their lessons and learning approach was worth the good money I paid. Don't you people think though that all you have to do is listen and you learn the language like magic. Learning is like anything else. You have to dedicate yourself to concentrate on a daily basis and stick with it. I have to confess though. At about lesson 15 of 30 I got burned out and needed a break. Yesterday I picked up where I left off and quickly learned I needed to back up a few lessons for the stuff I had already forgot.

I bought my Thai lessons over the internet. Somewhere. And they loaded up onto my iPhone as designed.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1332687]David,

Rosetta Stone is okay for Vocab but very weak on speaking practice. You need repetative speaking drills to program it into the brain. Its not easy at the beginning[/QUOTE]Your post is spot on.

I myself am presently teaching myself Thai. I can't vouch for Rosetta Stone but can for Sybervision / Pimsleur.

Sybervision uses a conversational learning technique. You start learning key words and the course teaches you how use those to put together sentences. But like you say, a recording can't hammer you for missing the subtleties of the pronunciation. I figure I will get through all the lessons, then skype with a teacher to hit on my weak points and pronunciation.

Sybervision served me well through Spanish and German. I definitely thought their lessons and learning approach was worth the good money I paid. Don't you people think though that all you have to do is listen and you learn the language like magic. Learning is like anything else. You have to dedicate yourself to concentrate on a daily basis and stick with it. I have to confess though. At about lesson 15 of 30 I got burned out and needed a break. Yesterday I picked up where I left off and quickly learned I needed to back up a few lessons for the stuff I had already forgot.

I bought my Thai lessons over the internet. Somewhere. And they loaded up onto my iPhone as designed.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1332274]Shock 69, CM2, Bossy, Spasso, Q-Bar, Bed and Supper Club, Titanium, Thermae, Bangkok Beat. This should keep you occupied for a while.[/QUOTE]Not a pure disco, but also Bangkok Beat (Soi 7/1) has some FL hiding in the partying crowd and partying too. But at some point some of them, giving the eyes will play back. But not all girls are FL, mind you!

Just so there is no one knocking on the door tomorrow.

Dr BJ's Budget Bangers will not be open on the 1st.

We are still waiting for 1 thing to be delivered so we can open and that is due tomorrow, we were told but who knows this is Thailand.

They have guaranteed us it will be for sure delivered before the 5th, so for sure we will be open by the latest on 6th but I will add it to the website along with pictures and so on.

Sorry about that but this will not change the price. 1000baht all in FS.

Regards.

BJ

Just so there is no one knocking on the door tomorrow.

Dr BJ's Budget Bangers will not be open on the 1st.

We are still waiting for 1 thing to be delivered so we can open and that is due tomorrow, we were told but who knows this is Thailand.

They have guaranteed us it will be for sure delivered before the 5th, so for sure we will be open by the latest on 6th but I will add it to the website along with pictures and so on.

Sorry about that but this will not change the price. 1000baht all in FS.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1332826]Sorry about that but this will not change the price. 1000baht all in FS.[/QUOTE]1000 thb? All in for FS? Wow thats cheap. Is the sex with a real girl or a doll? LOL

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1332687]Many Farangs think they can speak Thai really great but actually sound funny with suspect pronunciation. Only a Thai can really say if we are good or not. After 20 years, I still get wrong pronunciation corrected by a 12 year old kid.[/QUOTE]After 1 year I still get "mai khao jai." Like when I was trying to ask the waitress the other day why the man and woman were not talking to each other. I always know what I'm saying but it seems they don't. And it's funny how you can say to one person and they understand but if you say the same thing to another person they have no idea. I was trying to tell my school teacher gf that my cousin was pak wan and she was looking at me like a deer in headlights. When I finally decided to say "sweet mouth" in English she was like oh it is said paaaak waan. I'm like that is what the fuck I thought I said. But evidently it wasn't.

[quote=mr enternational;1333028]after 1 year i still get "mai khao jai." like when i was trying to ask the waitress the other day why the man and woman were not talking to each other. i always know what i'm saying but it seems they don't. and it's funny how you can say to one person and they understand but if you say the same thing to another person they have no idea. i was trying to tell my school teacher gf that my cousin was pak wan and she was looking at me like a deer in headlights. when i finally decided to say "sweet mouth" in english she was like oh it is said paaaak waan. i'm like that is what the fuck i thought i said. but evidently it wasn't.[/quote]my [ex] thai gf, born and raised in bkk, had always a hard time understanding a thai for the first few words when they first met, especially thai folks from outside bkk, like isaan or the south. i was surprised and asked if the dialect is so much different. she said yes, that it is sometimes, but that is not the problem: the important thing was to get to know their baseline, their medium tone in relation to either the high or the low. once someone spoke a complete sentence or two or repeated it, it was then clearer for her. most farang though speak in incomplete sentences, and ignore completely the different tones, so it was always frustrating for her to understand farangs who spoke thai.

but she had another pet peeve about farang talking thai: she did tell me that she had an aussi boyfriend who spoke rather fluently thai, and wanted only to converse thai to her, but she pretended she could not understand him, because he spoke always impolite unaware of proper address or etiquette. that drove her mad especially in public. and in private when he wanted to speak sweet and intimate, a place where informal we would assume would be correct, sounded formal, wrong gender and translated, pushing her out of "the mood" every time. for example "pohm rak khoon" lol

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1332986]1000 thb? All in for FS? Wow thats cheap. Is the sex with a real girl or a doll? LOL[/QUOTE]You get a FL at nana car park or on low sukhumvit for that price, so nothing too strange. Some of them are also good looking. Reports also mention good services.

I can imagine a well organised establishment can stay in those prices too, including their revenue and costs as they maximise some cost savings.

Just like a low cost airline, taking you from A to B with a freshly delivered jet liner.

I a not a fan of either low cost airline or SW FL's, but I can see those businesses are working, including customer satisfaction.

You might don't want to have high expectations, but that is another story. Own many seem proud of banging girls for 300baht. We read this here.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1332986]1000 thb? All in for FS? Wow thats cheap. Is the sex with a real girl or a doll? LOL[/QUOTE]Inflatable doll, but you have to blow her up 1st, LOL.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1333050]You get a FL at nana car park or on low sukhumvit for that price, so nothing too strange. Some of them are also good looking. Reports also mention good services.[/QUOTE]But what I understand from the previous post is that included in the 1000 will be the room and shower, with soap and stuff.

FLs don't offer that

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1333055]But what I understand from the previous post is that included in the 1000 will be the room and shower, with soap and stuff.FLs don't offer that[/QUOTE]You are right and of course, the FL do not offer that. So either you take them in your (nearby?) hotel or take advantage of a 350thb ST room (nearby too, as I do no think the nana girls like to stroll on higher Sukh, for instance, even by taxi: time taken from work! What I meant is that a well organized establishment can run such a price, even if it provides more (room+towels / shower) just as low cost arilines do the same route at a fraction of the major airline. It is all about standardization of costs. Maybe the girls accept lower fees (than the 1000 as a FL) in exchange of a more safe environment, a range of customers being brought in by the franchise etc, ie more chances to get more customers in a day than in the streets.

Lots of ST rooms go for 350. Say DrBj keeps 400 and give 600 to the girl: impossible? I don't think so.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1332826]Just so there is no one knocking on the door tomorrow.

Dr BJ's Budget Bangers will not be open on the 1st.

We are still waiting for 1 thing to be delivered so we can open and that is due tomorrow, we were told but who knows this is Thailand. BJ[/QUOTE]Damn dude, You got Blow Jobs, NURU Massages now 1000 B Short times.

You guys are the one stop PUSSY shop. When is the IPO?

Monte Trey

First of all I don't mind if people try to learn Thai. By all means. But I have to share what I have heard from several girls both freelanceladies and regular girls. What they all have told me is that they don't like foreign people to speak Thai. Very few can handle it and better for use in the supermarket / governmental buildings than in mongersituation with a girls present.

As far as I know they are not impressed at all and in fact they like that foreign people speak english and that is it.

Atleast regarding the regulargirls (wine and dine and doing the proper date routine) speaking Thai will not get you faster into the interesting business if I stick to my information provided by girls interviewed by me in english.

I was reading that there is a holiday coming up on Oct. 23rd. Will the bars, gogos and massage places be closed? If so I will try to book someone for some fun on that day. Will be their Oct. 15th. 25th.

How are the floods. Will I need to wear my fishing waders?

[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1332826]We are still waiting for 1 thing to be delivered so we can open and that is due tomorrow[/QUOTE]Now you have us all guessing what this one all important thing is.

[quote=wolvenvacht;1333236]now you have us all guessing what this one all important thing is.[/quote]maby it is an automized milking machine to speed up the service.

[QUOTE= Maybe the girls accept lower fees (than the 1000 as a FL) in exchange of a more safe environment, a range of customers being brought in by the franchise etc, ie more chances to get more customers in a day than in the streets.[/QUOTE]1000 is standard fee no tip expected on soi 6 in pats many good looking and fun girls, some a+. Good service there for the most part and good money being made.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1333116]First of all I don't mind if people try to learn Thai. By all means. But I have to share what I have heard from several girls both freelanceladies and regular girls. What they all have told me is that they don't like foreign people to speak Thai. Very few can handle it and better for use in the supermarket / governmental buildings than in mongersituation with a girls present.

As far as I know they are not impressed at all and in fact they like that foreign people speak english and that is it.[/QUOTE]Who cares if hookers like it or not? I don't see this as a necessarily bad thing. In my experience, most prostitutes I have been with liked that we could speak in thai as it is easier for them to understand.

[quote]Atleast regarding the regulargirls (wine and dine and doing the proper date routine) speaking Thai will not get you faster into the interesting business if I stick to my information provided by girls interviewed by me in english.[/QUOTE]Regular girls will joke about Farangs speaking Thai and that you will "Roo Mak" (know too much) , but they are the first to try and teach foreigners how to speak Thai. Go Figure.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1332274]Shock 69, CM2, Bossy, Spasso, Q-Bar, Bed and Supper Club, Titanium, Thermae, Bangkok Beat. This should keep you occupied for a while.[/QUOTE]Isn't Titanium closed? And these places are mostly for Freelancers.

If you want to pickup regular Thai girls, go to Route 66

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1333069]Lots of ST rooms go for 350. Say DrBj keeps 400 and give 600 to the girl: impossible? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]That was the norm for Pattaya's soi six. 300 bht for the room and 700 for the girl.

[QUOTE=El Greco;1333344]That was the norm for Pattaya's soi six. 300 bht for the room and 700 for the girl.[/QUOTE]I have no idea how much the provider gets but way back when Annies charged a fixed 1000 more than one of the girls told me they got a mere 300. The women at Bangers are obviously going to be way way past their prime so a couple of less than discerning punters a day and I imagine they would be happy with this arrangment, plus not withstanding that the clientele will most likely be cheap charlie types there is the possibility of an extra 100 or 200 tip. What alternative do they have, the street where they have to compete with younger better looking providers or some shop where again they will have the same problem. No best they all get together in the same place and then let those who either for cost or kinkiness head their way.

[quote=monte3; 1333091]damn dude, you got blow jobs, nuru massages now 1000 b short times.

you guys are the one stop pussy shop. when is the ipo?

monte trey[/quote]we are at an advanced point of negotiation with the hang seng, nasdaq, ftse 100 and the tse. i will inform everyone when we have an agreement in place. put your brokers number on speed dial guy's.

regards.

bj

[quote=dr bj; 1333373]we are at an advanced point of negotiation with the hang seng, nasdaq, ftse 100 and the tse. i will inform everyone when we have an agreement in place. put your brokers number on speed dial guy's.

regards.

bj[/quote]great.

i beleive you are the next apple of the sex industry.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1332363]I carry a plastic wiener with me filled with milk. I simulate CIM with them and get a head nod, yes or no.

If that does not work. Just grab onto the back of their skull and hold it there until you finish.[/QUOTE]I prefer the sneak approach. Let her commence the BBBJ then lay back and let her lapse into a routine. I take particular care not to twitch a muscle, moan, groan or tense up. BOOM it hits the back of her throat without warning and then I adopt the hang dog apologetic look and shrug. The one drawback is anything past the 2nd squirt is usually fired into mid air as she rapidly tries to withdraw from range.

The overall effect is similar to fucking the missues doggie style, calling her by her sisters name on the vinegar stroke and trying to hang on for 7 seconds.

Rosco.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1333318]Isn't Titanium closed? And these places are mostly for Freelancers.

If you want to pickup regular Thai girls, go to Route 66[/QUOTE]I was in Titanium couple weeks ago, Wasn't closed and the pickings were slim.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1333116]First of all I don't mind if people try to learn Thai. By all means. But I have to share what I have heard from several girls both freelanceladies and regular girls. What they all have told me is that they don't like foreign people to speak Thai. Very few can handle it and better for use in the supermarket / governmental buildings than in mongersituation with a girls present.[/QUOTE]For a Thai girl that can speak very good English, they will be irritated by foreigners speaking Thai badly. Just the same as I get irritated by Thais that insist on speaking very bad English to me that I cannot understand, e.g. male receptionist at EZ massage. On the other hand for Thai girls who have extremely little English, they will often be relieved and more relaxed that they can converse with me in Thai only. Its merely a matter of who speaks the other language with the greater ability. That will be the language of choice. Very few working girls try to speak to me in English, because generally my Thai is better than their English and they know it. If a girl happens to speak good English then we may well converse in a mixture of the two.

Other aspect is Thai girls like to be able to gossip to each other without the Farang being able to understand what they are saying. If a Farang is present who understands, they have to be more careful what they say.

[QUOTE]As far as I know they are not impressed at all and in fact they like that foreign people speak english and that is it.[/QUOTE]Sure they may not impressed by weak Thai. Who cares? Some Thai can be a necessity when the others cannot speak English. This was particularly the case many years ago up-country.

[QUOTE]Atleast regarding the regulargirls (wine and dine and doing the proper date routine) speaking Thai will not get you faster into the interesting business if I stick to my information provided by girls interviewed by me in english.[/QUOTE]You believe everything they tell you? English is not going to get you anywhere faster if she can't understand what the hell you are on about.

When I met my GF, she had no English at all, and today still speaks it only when really has to, and then not that well. If I had no Thai, would we have become a couple anyway? Possible, but not so likely.

Its simple. I get to converse with a much wider range of the Thai population, by being Thai capable. Whether anyone is impressed or not, I don't really care. I get a lot of comments on my ability from Thais, but I know its just "paak waan" (sweet-mouthing me). I know I don't sound like a Thai, but can be understood most of the time.

P. S. My GF and step-daughter both get very irritated if I insist on speaking English to them. This is a fact. However GF may even speak Isaan dialect to me on occasions. Fortunately step-daughter doesn't.

Thai definitely helps me in mongering situations. Look on the MP web sites. Many girls have rather weak English. Some become absolute chatter-boxes when they can speak Thai to me. If girls want to be quiet, I can do that too. one of my favourite bargirls from Sheba would have talked all night if I was willing (her English is quite weak). Had to tell her firmly was time to sleep.

In many countries I find a few words of greeting is all that is needed. Traveling around on my next trip to have Thai, Khymer and Bengali would be too much to expect. Most foreigners (even the French) accept that unless you live in a country you will never be fluent and, after a local lingo greeting are happy to speak / practice their English. Even Thai WGs recognise most potential clients want a little English; does not everyone ask Mamasan in a MP,"does no 7 speak any English?"

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1333537]does not everyone ask Mamasan in a MP,"does no 7 speak any English?"[/QUOTE]Perhaps most, but I'm the weird one who never did. If the girl is stunning, I don't care if she speaks my language. I didn't go looking for an argument. I remember a fab time with a Cuban girl who did not speak a word of English, and I had almost no Spanish, although no mamasan was involved. I had to get by alone. Conversation was not possible. Obviously would have been better if I could speak Spanish just a little bit.

Obviously there is no point to learning a language unless you are going to spend big time immersed in it.
My very first trip to Thailand I recall a massage with a beautiful naked Thai girl and could not say anything to her at all. Was somewhat frustrating (29 years ago).

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1333526]For a Thai girl that can speak very good English, they will be irritated by foreigners speaking Thai badly. Just the same as I get irritated by Thais that insist on speaking very bad English to me that I cannot understand, e. G. Male receptionist at EZ massage. On the other hand for Thai girls who have extremely little English, they will often be relieved and more relaxed that they can converse with me in Thai only. Its merely a matter of who speaks the other language with the greater ability. That will be the language of choice. Very few working girls try to speak to me in English, because generally my Thai is better than their English and they know it. If a girl happens to speak good English then we may well converse in a mixture of the two.

Other aspect is Thai girls like to be able to gossip to each other without the Farang being able to understand what they are saying. If a Farang is present who understands, they have to be more careful what they say.

Sure they may not impressed by weak Thai. Who cares? Some Thai can be a necessity when the others cannot speak English. This was particularly the case many years ago up-country.

You believe everything they tell you? English is not going to get you anywhere faster if she can't understand what the hell you are on about.

When I met my GF, she had no English at all, and today still speaks it only when really has to, and then not that well. If I had no Thai, would we have become a couple anyway? Possible, but not so likely.

Its simple. I get to converse with a much wider range of the Thai population, by being Thai capable. Whether anyone is impressed or not, I don't really care. I get a lot of comments on my ability from Thais, but I know its just "paak waan" (sweet-mouthing me). I know I don't sound like a Thai, but can be understood most of the time.

P. S. My GF and step-daughter both get very irritated if I insist on speaking English to them. This is a fact. However GF may even speak Isaan dialect to me on occasions. Fortunately step-daughter doesn't.

Thai definitely helps me in mongering situations. Look on the MP web sites. Many girls have rather weak English. Some become absolute chatter-boxes when they can speak Thai to me. If girls want to be quiet, I can do that too. One of my favourite bargirls from Sheba would have talked all night if I was willing (her English is quite weak). Had to tell her firmly was time to sleep.[/QUOTE]By all means by all means this was not an attack on you just tried to provide info I have heard over and over again. I don't give a shit if foreign people can speak Thai or not just to make that clear (as I also state in the beginning of my post of origin). For me it is rather simple I will never learn Thai. I have no interest to do so as I will never ever live in Thailand and mongering works perfect without Thai skills for the freelance / regularmarket. When it comes to my fleet of regular girls they are screened through communication upfront so they have english skills otherwice they are ruled out as a no go early in the process. Some of them works for international companies so they handles english rather well. For regulars communication is important as we also have to talk a bit in wine and dine situations and so on. For freelancers not so important but I tend to rule out freelancers with no english ability whatsoever since a situation can get quite sticky after frases of "boom boom","I come with you","go to youl loom" are finished.

Since it is a free world we do as we like within reasons and learn what we wants to learn and write what

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1333116]First of all I don't mind if people try to learn Thai. By all means. But I have to share what I have heard from several girls both freelanceladies and regular girls. What they all have told me is that they don't like foreign people to speak Thai. Very few can handle it and better for use in the supermarket / governmental buildings than in mongersituation with a girls present.

As far as I know they are not impressed at all and in fact they like that foreign people speak english and that is it.

Atleast regarding the regulargirls (wine and dine and doing the proper date routine) speaking Thai will not get you faster into the interesting business if I stick to my information provided by girls interviewed by me in english.[/QUOTE]Absolute rubbish. Many working girls cannot speak English better than many guys who live here and who have made the effort to learn Thai. I cannot count the number of girls who have told me they were so relieved and happy to go home with a guy they could converse with. If it does anything, it just weeds out all the girls who want to pull the wool over your eyes or precisely the ones who are scared of the guys who roo maak (know too much) and know they can't get away with the crap they normally try to pull.

As for regular girls, I'd say every single one I've dated has made nice comments on my trying to learn her language, and I probably get more points for at least seeming like I am here for the culture (baaah). The "regular" girls who recoil when I speak Thai I've pretty quickly discovered have usually had previous farang boyfriends who helped pay for expensive apartments or other such gifts (all the while these girls take such incredible pride in pointing out that they are NOT working girls and don't need farang money).

And if we are talking about that incredibly large segment of the population who work regular day jobs, don't make huge salaries, and don't go out to bars or discos very often because they are busy with work and not overly well off. Well, I'd venture to say that the only way you'd ever be making headway into dating most of these girls would be by speaking Thai.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1333050]You get a FL at nana car park or on low sukhumvit for that price, so nothing too strange. Some of them are also good looking. Reports also mention good services.

I can imagine a well organised establishment can stay in those prices too, including their revenue and costs as they maximise some cost savings.

Just like a low cost airline, taking you from A to B with a freshly delivered jet liner.

I a not a fan of either low cost airline or SW FL's, but I can see those businesses are working, including customer satisfaction.

You might don't want to have high expectations, but that is another story. Own many seem proud of banging girls for 300baht. We read this here.[/QUOTE]It's the Air Asia of Sukhumvit: Now anyone can F*

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1333526]Other aspect is Thai girls like to be able to gossip to each other without the Farang being able to understand what they are saying. If a Farang is present who understands, they have to be more careful what they say.[/QUOTE]And it is at this point that they tell you that you know too much if you are able to understand Thai.

[QUOTE=El Greco;1333344]That was the norm for Pattaya's soi six. 300 bht for the room and 700 for the girl.[/QUOTE]So it is not a mission impossible for structured business to run in same figures and keep a revenue.

On the other hand the FL are looking for many many customers each day and are not afraid of 10, if they can achieve.

If they are offered a retainer of 2000 thb a day, no matter how many customers they serve, they hit a jackpot. Sure money. And the establishment break evens at 3 customer a day per girl.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1333236]Now you have us all guessing what this one all important thing is.[/QUOTE]If the place is the one aside DrBj, seems a lot is missing, floor tiles included. At least it appeared so a couple of nights ago: construction still at an early stage. But hey. This is Thailand.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1333555]By all means by all means this was not an attack on you just tried to provide info I have heard over and over again.

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Since it is a free world we do as we like within reasons and learn what we wants to learn and write what[/QUOTE]And I did not interpret it as an attack either. I just disagree with some of what you say, as it is not based on a full understanding of the big difference between very bad Thai including lots of impolite words picked up from bar girls, and better conversational Thai, in the eyes of the listener. I go to the Bradman pub and I get to here Farangs speaking what sounds like ugly Thai to me. I can't tell if I sound much better.

I agree with your comments that Thai is not in any way needed for casual mongering encounters when talking is not so important. I go to an MP, not for conversation or arguments but for sex. Sure whoever is interested to learn Thai can. Others need not. Its a lot of effort. So must consider how much need to use it would occur. I have been using it 50% of days for years, even when not in Thailand.

So just be prepared to hear different points of view. Anyone who makes claims here as to be prepared for others to disagree.

It's going to be interesting as to who and how many will visit BB'S and possibly more importantly will revisit. Normal FS in an oily with a "massage" costs 1900. Those familiar with the scene know where the best looking and best performers are and IMHO the 1900 is money well spent. So now you can get it for 1000 (or buy one get one free). I can see regular mongers strolling by catching a glance of the "talent" while the more hardboiled will wander in to have a look at the menu. Emmmmmmmm should I or should I not, not great looking, a bit long in the tooth, oh what the hell I'll give that one a spin and see how it goes. See you strolling around 7/1.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1333543]Obviously there is no point to learning a language unless you are going to spend big time immersed in it. Respectfully disagree.

I learned a bit of Japanese, not much, and have, and will never be immersed in it. But it does help me tremendously when in Japan, in every aspect of life, and particularly in mongering. I have now access to far more places, shops, girls, practices than before, just before the providers are reassured that I can understand the rules. And in addition, the girls are also relieved, and, in fact, happy to be able to chat.

What is true though, is that when dealing with businessmen, you have to "warn" them that you can speak and understand Japanese. Otherwise that will feel threatened. I would agree here that some would prefer that you don't.

But surely not with WGs.

Yes, Japan is special, few people speak English, let alone prostitutes, so I am not making a general statement.

I live in a small city on South Thailand. My Thai fishing buddies, college educated, have taught me the impolite words. The bargirls are at best slightly amused when I use those words and without fail correct me. With them I use the nickname Paak Dee. Good Mouth.

[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1333516]I prefer the sneak approach. Let her commence the BBBJ then lay back and let her lapse into a routine. I take particular care not to twitch a muscle, moan, groan or tense up. BOOM it hits the back of her throat without warning and then I adopt the hang dog apologetic look and shrug. The one drawback is anything past the 2nd squirt is usually fired into mid air as she rapidly tries to withdraw from range.

The overall effect is similar to fucking the missues doggie style, calling her by her sisters name on the vinegar stroke and trying to hang on for 7 seconds.

Rosco.[/QUOTE]Tried this a couple of years ago in DR. Didn't turn out well. The chica vomitted all over my leg and bed, then after slapping my earlobe, ran to the bathroom spending the next 10 minutes over a toilet. Maybe sperm and alcohol doesn't mix well. Me, I found the entire thing hilarious. I don't know if it was her first time tasting nut juice or if my nut juice tasted like pig vomit. I think it was the second (but I don't fucking know) , so started adding pineapple juice to my diet. That issue never happened again. However, I can absolutely still say that I've had way more chica spitters than swallowers, which is disappointing. I'm drinking my fucking pineapple juice, dammit!

My apologies to those who were enjoying their breakfast before reading this blog.

[QUOTE=V Lenin;1324645]I haven't been there personally, but it's about 15-20 metres up from Soi 5 heading towards Soi 7. It's only a doorway and a passageway leading down to the bar, not a massive front or anything like that, so it can be easy to miss. Look for the sign, I guess.[/QUOTE]Not sure if anyone actually ever provided the name. It is called Check Inn with a four piece, Filipino, cabaret act. They are quite good and it is a laid back place. I have eaten here before and the food is also not to bad.

[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr;1333813]Not sure if anyone actually ever provided the name. It is called Check Inn with a four piece, Filipino, cabaret act. They are quite good and it is a laid back place. I have eaten here before and the food is also not to bad.[/QUOTE]Ozz-sa-Tray-Leea-Leea-Leea (as a Katoey acquantaince (GF's brother) likes to say) ,

Leea mean "lick". I also went to see the Filipino (spelling?) band a long while back and agree it was quite good. I could not pick up one of the hostess girls as had a girl with me already. Can't remember right now who that was or even if she was P4P or not.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1332363]I carry a plastic wiener with me filled with milk. I simulate CIM with them and get a head nod, yes or no.

If that does not work. Just grab onto the back of their skull and hold it there until you finish.[/QUOTE]You will fit well in Pattaya with all the Lowlives Farangs with that attitude. I for one am totally against these kind of behavior be it with a hooker or not.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1333861]You will fit well in Pattaya with all the Lowlives Farangs with that attitude. I for one am totally against these kind of behavior be it with a hooker or not.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks for the compliment.

Originally Posted by Luvpuss [View Original Post]

"I carry a plastic wiener with me filled with milk. I simulate CIM with them and get a head nod, yes or no.

If that does not work. Just grab onto the back of their skull and hold it there until you finish".

Watch out for the teeth, LOL.

[QUOTE=The Windex Man;1333789]I think it was the second (but I don't fucking know) , so started adding pineapple juice to my diet. That issue never happened again. However, I can absolutely still say that I've had way more chica spitters than swallowers, which is disappointing.[/QUOTE]Why is it disappointing? According to an expert, some guys taste acceptable and others taste awful, which may be related to diet, I don't know. Why don't you just drink it yourself?

Why are so many guys wanting to have the girl follow precisely the recipe of perverted sicko porn movies. Is it so important for the girl to be degraded and experience something repulsive to her, for perverts to get a thrill?

I have to agree with David_33's definition of PSE.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1334023]Why are so many guys wanting to have the girl follow precisely the recipe of perverted sicko porn movies. Is it so important for the girl to be degraded and experience something repulsive to her, for perverts to get a thrill?[/QUOTE]You are judgmental! We all have our own sexual preferences and no one here is in a position to decide which behavior is acceptable and which is not. Some people may object to your sexual preferences and call you a pervert but it probably wouldn't change you the same way it won't change anyone else. As long as Mr. Punter's actions are not illegal and the provider freely agrees to his actions let him be.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1334040]You are judgmental! We all have our own sexual preferences and no one here is in a position to decide which behavior is acceptable and which is not.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right. I believe people are getting brainwashed by watching weird behaviour in porn movies, and this causes them to desire to degrade the girls, e.g. Come on face, come in hair, swallow that repulsive stuff, etc. Its not that different from other forms of brain-washing. You guys are entitled to think differently. Its just my view.

For me its simple. Either the girl is willing to tolerate something to make money or she isn't. Would I want to cope a load of sperm on my face? Would I want to swallow that stuff? Absolutely not. Does the sight of shooting sperm, turn me on? No. Why would I ask a girl to cope a load on face? What could be my purpose? I could wank by myself at home, and come on a picture of a girl's face if that thrilled me. But its silly. The only only purpose I can see from porn is that it intends to make the girls have to tolerate degradation.

Its fine for girls to do whatever they like or find acceptable, or otherwise find a different girl. Its not fine to try to force things they don't want to do. If a girl wants to swallow, she will, but certainly very few do in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1334074]You guys are entitled to think differently. [/QUOTE]If you acknowledged this, what was the point of your post? It made no sense at all. Keep judging others and preaching off your high horse, a thud is sure to follow.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1334074]Yes you are right. I believe people are getting brainwashed by watching weird behaviour in porn movies, and this causes them to desire to degrade the girls, e. G. Come on face, come in hair, swallow that repulsive stuff, etc. Its not that different from other forms of brain-washing. You guys are entitled to think differently. Its just my view.

For me its simple. Either the girl is willing to tolerate something to make money or she isn't. Would I want to cope a load of sperm on my face? Would I want to swallow that stuff? Absolutely not. Does the sight of shooting sperm, turn me on? No. Why would I ask a girl to cope a load on face? What could be my purpose? I could wank by myself at home, and come on a picture of a girl's face if that thrilled me. But its silly. The only only purpose I can see from porn is that it intends to make the girls have to tolerate degradation.

Its fine for girls to do whatever they like or find acceptable, or otherwise find a different girl. Its not fine to try to force things they don't want to do. If a girl wants to swallow, she will, but certainly very few do in Thailand.[/QUOTE]The original poster never said anything about forcing anyone to do anything. He asked how to ask for that particular service. It was the person who answered that insinuated just doing it without telling them.

But I think you are forgetting there are different strokes for different folks. It has nothing to do with money or movies. Some people like some things while other's may abhor them. (I don't like onions and I don't like shrimp, but I'm not telling the rest of the world not to like them. Or that they only like them because they seen someone else liking them so they became brain washed.) Many non-P4P as well as P4P girls have told me that they want to drink my water without me saying anything. Some women like to get fucked in the ass. Some like their hair pulled. Some like their ass spanked. While others don't. I can't count how many times a woman has tried to bite me. I hate that shit. But I'm sure there are a good number of people who love it. I'm not out there telling them their behavior is perverted or repulsive, I just request that they don't do it with me. I could care less about what they do with the next guy. It is not anyone's place to prescribe to another person what should get them off and what should not.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1333733]It's going to be interesting as to who and how many will visit BB'S and possibly more importantly will revisit. Normal FS in an oily with a "massage" costs 1900. Those familiar with the scene know where the best looking and best performers are and IMHO the 1900 is money well spent. So now you can get it for 1000 (or buy one get one free). I can see regular mongers strolling by catching a glance of the "talent" while the more hardboiled will wander in to have a look at the menu. Emmmmmmmm should I or should I not, not great looking, a bit long in the tooth, oh what the hell I'll give that one a spin and see how it goes. See you strolling around 7/1.[/QUOTE]Further to above: New definition of the walk of shame. Caught exiting from Bangkok Bangers, don't believe there is a back door, or is there Dr.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1334074]Would I want to cope a load of sperm on my face? Would I want to swallow that stuff? Absolutely not. Does the sight of shooting sperm, turn me on? No. Why would I ask a girl to cope a load on face?[/QUOTE]Well Syzygies. If you did enjoy those things there are a few LB's outside Nana that can help you out. Fortunately you are not a woman. Perhaps their perspective is a little different. I havn't met too many men allegic to the pussy juice of a stranger. Mongering isn't about romance. It fucking! Just my 2c worth.

Rosco

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1334023]Why is it disappointing? According to an expert, some guys taste acceptable and others taste awful, which may be related to diet, I don't know. Why don't you just drink it yourself?

Why are so many guys wanting to have the girl follow precisely the recipe of perverted sicko porn movies. Is it so important for the girl to be degraded and experience something repulsive to her, for perverts to get a thrill?

I have to agree with David_33's definition of PSE.[/QUOTE]Why TF are you on this forum?

Yes, I am a pervert and proud of it.

Go join some religous site. Maybe people will listen.

I go around in Bangkok and would like to experiment some new spicy time. I look for a men who like to go to see girls together in the same room. I know Japanese are fun of this but no idea how to meet people who would share the same interest. Any idea, address.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1334097] I can't count how many times a woman has tried to bite me. I hate that shit. But I'm sure there are a good number of people who love it.[/QUOTE]Hi,

You got me all flustered when you mentioned ladies biting in the throes of intercourse. And if she could dig her nails in a bit too. Well that works for me anyway.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1333733]It's going to be interesting as to who and how many will visit BB'S and possibly more importantly will revisit. Normal FS in an oily with a "massage" costs 1900. Those familiar with the scene know where the best looking and best performers are and IMHO the 1900 is money well spent. So now you can get it for 1000 (or buy one get one free). I can see regular mongers strolling by catching a glance of the "talent" while the more hardboiled will wander in to have a look at the menu. Emmmmmmmm should I or should I not, not great looking, a bit long in the tooth, oh what the hell I'll give that one a spin and see how it goes. See you strolling around 7/1.[/QUOTE]Pictures are on the site and have been for at leat 5 days.

Yes budget bangers has older ladies, yes it has young ladies to and yes it has some that not every man that walks in will like but if you take a look at the rooms and how clean the budget bangers is and the pictures of some of the ladies, I think it is very hard to find a shop in the local area at the price that looks as nice with staff like this. The only thing is I have found that good ideas and running a business good does not mean it will work in Bangkok. Bangkok customers are sometimes very strange.

In the last 3 days I have hadding with in Annie's and Dr BJ's when I am there.

1 Annie's shower ladies was a lie and never happened and it is me trying to cheat customers.

2 budget bangers is not good value so I will not be going.

3 I cum three times and the lady was not good I was cheated (forum posting)

4 Dr BJ's salon has the ugliest girls in Thailand (forum post)

5 Can I have lady number XX private facebook information so I can talk with her (facebook message)

Nuru guru rply: We do not give out private information, this is why it is called private. Reply to nuru guru: I will not coming to you as you are showing bad customer service already.

I think though budget bangers will do very very well and I wish the full owner every success in his time there.

If you want to see pictures of the shop and the ladies please it is on the website. Email address is not working for it today but if you have questions email me or PM on here.

Well in my book these girls can not come so much lower as whoring around in life fucking for money. I pay freelanceladies to fullfill my dreams and, yes, some of them are from porn movies. Does not mean I force girls outside their comfort zone but I ask what I can do and if they accept I will let them have my cum deep down their throaths if I feel like. I am buying and paying a product and this product I want, if possible, to shape into my liking as much as possible. Since a prostitute never will be GF material in my life I have no problem seeing this as a business transaction between buyer and seller. And yes, seem maby a bit odd, but I respect these girls a great deal for having a product I want. If people here in ISG can not take mongers various preferences there is nothing to do about that but to critizise people cuming on these ladies or inside them or anywhere else should be between the buyer and seller.

What's the big deal? I've had more than a few GFs (non pros) in the States who liked for me to blow my load in their mouth. Or maybe
they just said they liked it to ingratiate themselves to me.

If you're paying a girl to fuck or suck you, what's wrong with wanting to come in her mouth. It's not exactly a dealbreaker for me,
but it certainly adds to the eroticism.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1334172]Hi,

You got me all flustered when you mentioned ladies biting in the throes of intercourse. And if she could dig her nails in a bit too. Well that works for me anyway.

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]Exactly BJ. That is why you are an important non-judgemental contributor to this site. See you in a few days at Bangers!

[QUOTE=Aey Annies; 1334193]Pictures are on the site and have been for at leat 5 days.

Yes budget bangers has older ladies, yes it has young ladies to and yes it has some that not every man that walks in will like but if you take a look at the rooms and how clean the budget bangers is and the pictures of some of the ladies, I think it is very hard to find a shop in the local area at the price that looks as nice with staff like this. The only thing is I have found that good ideas and running a business good does not mean it will work in Bangkok. Bangkok customers are sometimes very strange.

In the last 3 days I have hadding with in Annie's and Dr BJ's when I am there.

1 Annie's shower ladies was a lie and never happened and it is me trying to cheat customers.

2 budget bangers is not good value so I will not be going.

3 I cum three times and the lady was not good I was cheated (forum posting)

4 Dr BJ's salon has the ugliest girls in Thailand (forum post)

5 Can I have lady number XX private facebook information so I can talk with her (facebook message)

Nuru guru rply: We do not give out private information, this is why it is called private. Reply to nuru guru: I will not coming to you as you are showing bad customer service already.

I think though budget bangers will do very very well and I wish the full owner every success in his time there.

If you want to see pictures of the shop and the ladies please it is on the website. Email address is not working for it today but if you have questions email me or PM on here.[/QUOTE] I think a lot of the complainers suffer from ED and are just frustrated. I am almost 60 and they look pretty good to me.

I will be hitting a few of them in a week. Probably as my 1 hour warm up before the real fun begins for me later in the day.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1334106]Further to above: New definition of the walk of shame. Caught exiting from Bangkok Bangers, don't believe there is a back door, or is there Dr.[/QUOTE]If you are ashamed about getting laid, go some place else.

Best place for daytime fun if you're looking for natural big chested ladies?

Back in the days and I admit it goes back aways when Annie's charged a flat 1k I was a frequent visitor and had some great times with some lovely ladies. It was the best value in town. When they changed their pricing structure I stopped going simply because it was no longer for me anyway value for money and other shops offered a more attractive package. In P4P as in life generally you get what you pay for and if grab a granny is your thing or you subscribe to the maxim that you don't look at the mantlepiece when you are poking the fire and 1000 baht seems like a good deal hey go for it. Personally I prefer my ladies to be pretty and cute and I'm more than willing to pay a little more for their company. Ashamed of being laid then I happily dwell in perpetual shame.

[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1334316]Best place for daytime fun if you're looking for natural big chested ladies?[/QUOTE]Try the South side of Chicago; lots of 'them there.

[QUOTE=DanGood;1334156]I go around in Bangkok and would like to experiment some new spicy time. I look for a men who like to go to see girls together in the same room. I know Japanese are fun of this but no idea how to meet people who would share the same interest. Any idea, address.[/QUOTE]Yes its no problem to get multiple girls in the same room (usually good close friends). I do often. You don't need any other men. Men are not a turn on and would tend to stuff up the party, unless you were very close buddies maybe.

[QUOTE=DanGood;1334156]I go around in Bangkok and would like to experiment some new spicy time. I look for a men who like to go to see girls together in the same room. I know Japanese are fun of this but no idea how to meet people who would share the same interest. Any idea, address.[/QUOTE]So you want other men to go with you to a private room to watch lesbian sex and group sex? No thanks, I don't want to see another dick when I am screwing other women. If you want this you should have brought your friends along.

You can also try Craiglist.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1334172]Hi,

You got me all flustered when you mentioned ladies biting in the throes of intercourse. And if she could dig her nails in a bit too. Well that works for me anyway.

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]I think he is talking about during a BJ.

[QUOTE=Oldian;1333598]It's the Air Asia of Sukhumvit: Now anyone can F*[/QUOTE]Love it! Can you get Nasi Lemak with that?

Hi,

Haven't been to Thailand in over 10 years and may have the opportunity to go. Question is will my AT&T cell phone give me away.

1) If someone calls me and gets voicemail, will it have a funny international ring, go to some Thai voicemail sevice or in anyway let the caller know where I am?

2) If I call back to the USA from that cell phone, will it show any different on caller I'd then if I was still in the states?

When I was there back in 99, there was a fellow who had told his family he was in Detroit. He took calls from them and called from is cell all the time.

Thank!

Ccd

[QUOTE=Charm City Dave; 1334569]1) If someone calls me and gets voicemail, will it have a funny international ring, go to some Thai voicemail sevice or in anyway let the caller know where I am?

2) If I call back to the USA from that cell phone, will it show any different on caller I'd then if I was still in the states?

Ccd[/QUOTE]I guess there are many phonesubscriptions out there so maby some of your US "friends" can tell you more about this. But for my norwegian subscription having my personal voicemail activated makes callers getting my voicemail even if my phone is off or not. I feel much safer and I have tested this many many times as I have to lie about my whereabouts sth. The only thing I did not think of once was this fucking locator when logging into my facebookaccount from Manila. I did tell my GF back in Norway I was in the US. A lot of good fortune made my GF not finding out. But some friends did make comments about this, hehe. They did not reveal anything ofcourse and did not make a point out of this in facebook. But in sms, hehe. They knew ofcourse I was mongering in SEA and they told me to be careful. So be careful guys. New technology is nice sth but can also create a lot of troubles.

When I call back to Norway only my normal number shows so no problem there.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1334464]I think he is talking about during a BJ.[/QUOTE]Never experienced biting during a BJ. I could be wrong (I very often am) but doesn't that creep into the category of S&M?

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Skogis;1334233]Well in my book these girls can not come so much lower as whoring around in life fucking for money. I pay freelanceladies to fullfill my dreams and, yes, some of them are from porn movies. Does not mean I force girls outside their comfort zone but I ask what I can do and if they accept I will let them have my cum deep down their throaths if I feel like. I am buying and paying a product and this product I want, if possible, to shape into my liking as much as possible. Since a prostitute never will be GF material in my life I have no problem seeing this as a business transaction between buyer and seller. And yes, seem maby a bit odd, but I respect these girls a great deal for having a product I want. If people here in ISG can not take mongers various preferences there is nothing to do about that but to critizise people cuming on these ladies or inside them or anywhere else should be between the buyer and seller.[/QUOTE]I concur with what you are saying here. I too have a very high respect for the job these ladies do. We all wake up from time to time thinking "today I really do not want to go to work". Imagine what it is like for a girl working in Soi Cowboy or Nana! Customers expect 100% attitude and tip top service regardless of how the girls feel. Let's be honest we all have an off-day don't we? Like yourself I am not shy about asking for certain things from these ladies and if they refuse I take the matter no further. This probably sounds picky so apologies in advance, but I think you are buying a service as opposed to a product. Respect for a good post.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1334630]Never experienced biting during a BJ. I could be wrong (I very often am) but doesn't that creep into the category of S&M?

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]Not for Thai girls. Just a bit of a snack.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1334648]Not for Thai girls. Just a bit of a snack.[/QUOTE]That is why I always ask my GF-for-the-night if she is hungry and wants to eat something! Safety first. :D

Bionicman makes many good points and Dr. BJ is on the right track.

A strong franchise of fixed prices and cleanliness will pack the place to the rafters. I would add a breakfast and BJ deal from 6am to 10am and put in good quality coffee and some international newspapers. I hate the morning drought unless I have a girl stay over. Male endocrinology (ie testosterone) is diurnal and peaks in the morning. Imagine how cheerful all the guys would be chatting over coffee! Blowjobs, networking, talking the breeze, and breakfast. This concept should be in every airport transit lounge in the world along with a sleep tube aka Tokyo.

A retainer for the girls and splitting part of the economic surplus to maximize consumption and simultaneously building brand, properly managed, would have an excellent return on equity.

The price point removes most of buyers remorse for dud girls, and a feedbback system rating the girl and monthly culling of the bottom 25% would cement its place in history a bit like Annies or Nana Hotel. Good work. It is about time market discipline was brought to this essential service.

How about bust-a-nut, in-and-out (a popular California burger chain) , puffhaus, jiffy lube, or blow & go?

Or the old 1960's Avis: we drive your baht further?

Seriously, morning blowjobs are what is needed. I once got so desperate at the Marriott I tipped the (cute) in bed breakfast waitress 2k baht to assist. Neatly swallowed, no noise, no fuss and very horny looking at her uniform and pocelain Chaing Mai light skin. A good start to the day after a late arrival after midnight, re-aligned the universe so as to speak.

Happy mongering!

Word has it that the Hillary chain has purchased Liquid, Insomnia and six Nana go go's to add to their already impressive collection of watering holes. Watch for prices on 4 to go up.

To the best of my knowledge this company is now the largest operator in the bar / nightclub space. The owner is one smart lady.

[QUOTE=Charm City Dave; 1334569]Hi,

Question is will my AT&T cell phone give me away.[/QUOTE]No, but you'll have to sell a kidney to pay the roaming charges.

[quote=pahllus maximus; 1334660]seriously, morning blowjobs are what is needed. i once got so desperate at the marriott i tipped the (cute) in bed breakfast waitress 2k baht to assist. neatly swallowed, no noise, no fuss and very horny looking at her uniform and pocelain chaing mai light skin. a good start to the day after a late arrival after midnight, re-aligned the universe so as to speak.

happy mongering![/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] opens earlier than you think-i remember having coffee (my own) with service there at around 9:30 and the girls had been there already for some time getting ready for their workday.

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1334690]Word has it that the Hillary chain has purchased Liquid, Insomnia and six Nana go go's to add to their already impressive collection of watering holes. Watch for prices on 4 to go up.

To the best of my knowledge this company is now the largest operator in the bar / nightclub space. The owner is one smart lady.[/QUOTE]She may be a smart lady, but a smart monger will avoid those places.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1334890]She may be a smart lady, but a smart monger will avoid those places.[/QUOTE]I've had some good times at the original Hillary's playing pool, taking out. They can be a little pushy for drinks but no one is forcing you to comply. Where does the smart monger go?

[QUOTE=Charm City Dave; 1334569]Hi,

Haven't been to Thailand in over 10 years and may have the opportunity to go. Question is will my AT&T cell phone give me away.

1) If someone calls me and gets voicemail, will it have a funny international ring, go to some Thai voicemail sevice or in anyway let the caller know where I am?

2) If I call back to the USA from that cell phone, will it show any different on caller I'd then if I was still in the states?

When I was there back in 99, there was a fellow who had told his family he was in Detroit. He took calls from them and called from is cell all the time.

Thank!

Ccd[/QUOTE]This has been discussed 100s of time. RTFF and you will get all the answers. And if your wife / GF has a such a tight rein on you they may find out nevertheless.

Why, can't you go to Thailand on business? Just say you are going to Vietnam or Malaysia instead.

And yes, the roaming charges will make a big dent.

Normally I take Lesbian Show girls from Sheba but all 4 of my favourite girls were either up country or already barfined, so back to sister bar Suzi Wong. Took Dtom and Yao who are good friends (and ex-Sheba workers) , both speak a Khmer dialect in addition to Thai. Both are slim and Yao has a sexy butt. Dtom is the self-confessed expert on doing lesbian stuff and very tight. Yao was extra horny as close to her time of month and hadn't got one for a few days. Dtom seems to be always horny. Back to a well known Hotel a few Sois away and had a great time with making my own shower show, lesbian show, etc.

Extra special BBBJ with one girl licking / sucking the balls while other does normal BBBJ. This is my favourite form of "balls massage". Help support the low season by taling multiple girls at a time.

Took my buddy to the bar too. He is not that experienced in Thailand, and says things to the staff in not quite the simplest English possible. So often they don't understand him. No matter, I translated for the bar staff. So my advice is: Bar staff may speak English a bit but keep what you to very simple English. Speak slowly and at a good volume to overcome the noise. No complex grammatical structures.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1334890]She may be a smart lady, but a smart monger will avoid those places.[/QUOTE]Almost impossible if you drink on 4 as most of the action belongs to her. Also quite a few on 11 including Climax one of my favourites. Anyway why avoid any of them when they are no better or no worse than the competition.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1334903]And yes, the roaming charges will make a big dent.[/QUOTE]And depending how detailed your invoice is, it will show you connected to Thai mobile phone providers.

Hi,

I'm flying into Bangkok in the very morning. 5am, and have a very long layover.

What places are open so early for massage and fun?

With the reports of Sukhumwit go-go's decline (I. E. High prices, poor attitudes. 1 hour or less ST's, less attractive girls, etc.) is it worth visiting Saphan Kwai go-go's as an alternative?

What is best time to visit and which ones are the better go-go's to visit there?

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1334960]Almost impossible if you drink on 4 as most of the action belongs to her. Also quite a few on 11 including Climax one of my favourites. Anyway why avoid any of them when they are no better or no worse than the competition.[/QUOTE]There are some beer bars that are not in her group; Stumble Inn, Big Dogs, Lucky Lukes, Golden and Bar4 of course.

Cheers,

Mark

[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1334690]Word has it that the Hillary chain has purchased Liquid, Insomnia and six Nana go go's to add to their already impressive collection of watering holes. Watch for prices on 4 to go up.

To the best of my knowledge this company is now the largest operator in the bar / nightclub space. The owner is one smart lady.[/QUOTE]Not correct as far as I know. In soi 4 she has the Hillary Bars, Morning Night & X-Box in the Rajah car park. No go go's. The ones I think you are referring to are owned by a guy called Glen who also has Nana Liquid but not Insomnia.

I am told she paid a lot to rent the strip from Morning Night down to where Strikers was (now Hillary 4) and there would be some pressure to further increase prices I believe. Prices were 65 THB Happy Hour and are now 80THB. Let's see if they stay there.

Cheers,

Mark

[QUOTE=TomHak; 1335000]Hi,

I'm flying into Bangkok in the very morning. 5am, and have a very long layover.

What places are open so early for massage and fun?[/QUOTE]Most of the places open at 11am.

Arriving in Nana at 7am will get you the last FL of the car park. Between Soi and 5 and 7 Nuch salon operates h24, BUT you will not find a true lady at that time

[QUOTE=Skogis;1332274]Shock 69, CM2, Bossy, Spasso, Q-Bar, Bed and Supper Club, Titanium, Thermae, Bangkok Beat. This should keep you occupied for a while.[/QUOTE]Is in my list of options in Bangkok, I prefer it more than Nana car parking. I was.

Ther last May and now planing next month. Any update information about Thermae

[quote=weaverworld; 1330242]dr bj, huge disappointment, they do have the best looking girls and of course they offer vip girls for 300 more than the regular 700 that is standard.

i should have known that picking e was a bad choice, vip girl with large breasts, i always been a sucker for xl sized mammaries.

seemed good enough when we walked upstairs but once in the room it was all issues, no touching, she wouldn't go topless, spat on the dick (too many porns i guess.) didn't even bother to pretend to be into it. i asked her at one point if it all was so fucking horrible then why the fuck was she there, her reply was,"yeah, i don't know".

sucking was ok but no swallowing and she almost spat it back on me. fuck!

horrid experience, and this was paying extra for a vip girl.

rooms are small, and has a chair like those in korean places if you seen that, on the way up to the third floor you pass the girls dormitory on the second floor, mattresses and sleepeers.

all in all i wouldn't recommend dr bj, service was bad and they charged extra, no asking for feedback on returning downstairs and the girl hovering for f-ing tip, should you go there despite my warning i recommend you to stay away from e at least, nasty experience[/quote]wow very different experience then mine with her. i took her for 2hr in the so called vip room=crap but still, going up the room than she talks a lot! but after 10 min or so action starts i got naked and she blew me like a champ. great suck and tong activity ask if i want to come in her mouth. i said i prefer to fuck her so put a rubber on me and i drilled from the rear for the first pop. were at 40min now. after that a lot of talking again until she felt i'm ready again. sucked my dick good again with many compliments about my size and shit i felt really good in her mouth and she kisses great too. crazy tong! got back to fucking as i was not going to cum from the bj. second session was also super hot with many poisons and her moaning and complimenting a lot. def not pse but a great gfe! i came inside her again as she sat on my dick holding her giant tits and rubbing her large more than average perfect ass.

so all in all i liked her a lot for her looks and her great lushes body. is she perfect? no, would i fuck her again? hell yes! , could you get better pussy or pse for 2500? probably yes. cheers

[QUOTE=Sponsor74; 1335505]Is in my list of options in Bangkok, I prefer it more than Nana car parking. I was.

Ther last May and now planing next month. Any update information about Thermae[/QUOTE]Was there last month. Girls line up on either side as you enter. Girls were average and were asking 2K for ST. Picked one up and she turned out to be a big dissapointment. Even after agreeing to all at the coffee shop.

[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1334903]This has been discussed 100s of time. RTFF and you will get all the answers. And if your wife / GF has a such a tight rein on you they may find out nevertheless.

Why, can't you go to Thailand on business? Just say you are going to Vietnam or Malaysia instead.

And yes, the roaming charges will make a big dent.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's the same method I use. Just about all of my business trips are to relatively harmless 'Singapore' (and conveniently it has one of the best banking systems in the world so there is a legit reason to fly through there) but I also squeeze in trips to all over while on those trips. As long as she doesn't decide to bring the kids to Singapore on a surprise trip or if I die in say Sao Paulo, Munich, or Prague, I'll be okay.

[QUOTE=TomHak; 1335000]Hi,

I'm flying into Bangkok in the very morning. 5am, and have a very long layover.

What places are open so early for massage and fun?[/QUOTE]You could try one of the massage places that offer 24hr outcall. I've never had take out from Dream Heaven but I do like the place and the girls pics are pretty good representations of what will show up at the door. I think a better bet than say an escort service. Whatever shop you decide on contact them in advance and give then the details like room # after you arrive.

Josh

[QUOTE=Noclew;1336150]Was there last month. Girls line up on either side as you enter. Girls were average and were asking 2K for ST. Picked one up and she turned out to be a big dissapointment. Even after agreeing to all at the coffee shop.[/QUOTE]Here are some basics every newbie to Bangkok should learn:

IME 9 out of 10 girls are like this, especially at places like Thermae.

I keep a list of performers who become regulars.

You might reduce your waste of money by picking up hot freelancers at 1000 Baht a shot.

What is going to motivate a girl to perform? Especially if he's only taking her ST and he may only be in town for a few days?

Thermae has hotter girls than, say, at the Biergarden. Hotter girls are less likely to perform, especially if you are paying them no more than an average or ugly girl.

You might be better off finding a girl who says re the price,"Up to you", or you arrange an incentive plan with her, such as nothing if you're no good & up to XXXX if you are fabulous.

Since I'm in BKK for months at a time, year after year, the incentive for girls to do what I want is, I will dump them if they don't, & find one who will, and I pay them beyond the market rates.

You guys who don't stay here as long or don't live here, are more at the mercy of the girl, her mood that day, your game and knowledge gained from sites like this, & the luck of the draw.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1336173]Here are some basics every newbie to Bangkok should learn:

IME 9 out of 10 girls are like this, especially at places like Thermae.

I keep a list of performers who become regulars.[/QUOTE]Pink,

I do agree with much of what you say, especially about maintaining a set of regulars.

However if 9 out of 10 Thai girls I chose were going to be disappointing, it would be time to quit Thailand.

I had one moderately disappointing session at La Belle recently, one complete disaster at Pink Massage, and most other sessions were fine to great.

Surely the thing tht makes Thailand stand out as a mongering destination is the high probability of success.

I could name several laces where I never had a bad session.

Have you really had many bad sessions at Thermae? One would normally quit before getting to 9 out of 10 being bad sessions. So we must expect gross exaggeration. Although none recently, in the past I had nothing but nice or hot girls from the Thermae, the last may have been a few years ago. I did go in once this year but wasn't seriously looking for a girl.

Turned out I was staying at LL just for a short time before leaving the country. Two of the girls in the sports bar grabbed my attention. One was tall, slim and pretty (normal for me) , the other was pretty but really struggling to fit into her costume, somewhere between bpum bpui (puppy fat) and voluptuous. Although I normally choose slim girls, the later one managed to suck me in with bountiful curves.

Miss J. J. (as I will call her) turned out to be quite hot in the room with reasonable skills. Recovering from a fever, a day or two earlier, my performance was below par, but she managed to turn me on enough to have 3 bouts of sex with short breaks between. I did not get 3 pops purely due to my own weakened state but I was inspired to try hard. Gave me a nice show too.

Looking forward to recovering to full fitness for the next about of 3 rounds.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1336173]Here are some basics every newbie to Bangkok should learn:

IME 9 out of 10 girls are like this, especially at places like Thermae.

I keep a list of performers who become regulars.

You might reduce your waste of money by picking up hot freelancers at 1000 Baht a shot.

What is going to motivate a girl to perform? Especially if he's only taking her ST and he may only be in town for a few days?

Thermae has hotter girls than, say, at the Biergarden. Hotter girls are less likely to perform, especially if you are paying them no more than an average or ugly girl.

You might be better off finding a girl who says re the price,"Up to you", or you arrange an incentive plan with her, such as nothing if you're no good & up to XXXX if you are fabulous.

Since I'm in BKK for months at a time, year after year, the incentive for girls to do what I want is, I will dump them if they don't, & find one who will, and I pay them beyond the market rates.

You guys who don't stay here as long or don't live here, are more at the mercy of the girl, her mood that day, your game and knowledge gained from sites like this, & the luck of the draw.[/QUOTE]I agree in great deal of your post Pink. As for the beautiful ladies I agree totaly. But as I never discuss price with the girls upon departure to my hotelroom (I tell them early in our communication) I make them trust me and I give them hopes of good payment if they perform well. This almost never fails in my monger book. When a girl say "up to you" then it is also a good deal. As for some punters inside here I also guess I pay a tiny bit on the high side for nice performance but I would easily cut down payment to normal / below normal for avarage to good performance. Thruth to be told I think the value for money I get in BKK is extremely good and if I pay 2K or 5K so I don't feel like beeing to picky. As a newbee I probably paid far more than I do now but as I got educated through ISG I have lowered my payment in respect for the international monger association (not to increase the prices. I know my evt high payment would not mean shit but as a princip).

Another newbee advice could also be to not choose the prettiest girl in the room. Go for the second prettiest. She will sth be "charmed" you pick her instead of the nr 1 beauty. Charmed is ofcourse the wrong word but understand me right guys as we all know the deal (pay for service).

The most important advice is allways to act if you know the deal and never admit you are a first timer. Read this forum and others and you will know the deal. If the girls understand you are a rookie then you give the girls the upper hand and they will play "the Bangkok act" (crying, everyone sick and so on). Just don't pay any attention to that.

Thermae girls are great and I never did have any problems with girls I have brought back. I have 2 upcoming trips first 20. 26. 10. 12 and next 12. 20. 11. 12. I plan as usual to have one visit to Thermae and pick one for the team to irritate the asians punters (kidding).

Has anyone been to this bar? If so, any comments or reviews on the service or food there? I read some where that it is a cigar friendly bar, also.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1336429]Has anyone been to this bar? If so, any comments or reviews on the service or food there? I read some where that it is a cigar friendly bar, also.[/QUOTE]I have been to this bar quite a few times, Mainly to watch my favourite team (Chelsea). For the non European readers Chelsea are a football (or soccer) team. They have several games on at the same time, so they usually have all the top English and sometimes Scottish teams playing. I would recommend avoiding the Scottish games as the skill level is shocking (being born and having lived in Scotland I am allowed to criticize). They sell draught beer as well as bottled. The service level has always been good. Some friends suggested avoiding the food but personally I have never had a problem with the quality of the food or the time taken to serve it. The interior of the place is very nice IMO. It does get busy but is big enough to not feel congested. You are allowed to smoke upstairs but not downstairs. They have a pool table on the first floor, which is usually not as busy as downstairs. Personally I would recommend this place to people as a nice place for food as well as beer.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1336391]Pink,

I do agree with much of what you say, especially about maintaining a set of regulars.

However if 9 out of 10 Thai girls I chose were going to be disappointing, it would be time to quit Thailand.

I had one moderately disappointing session at La Belle recently, one complete disaster at Pink Massage, and most other sessions were fine to great.

Surely the thing tht makes Thailand stand out as a mongering destination is the high probability of success.

I could name several laces where I never had a bad session.

Have you really had many bad sessions at Thermae? One would normally quit before getting to 9 out of 10 being bad sessions. So we must expect gross exaggeration. Although none recently, in the past I had nothing but nice or hot girls from the Thermae, the last may have been a few years ago. I did go in once this year but wasn't seriously looking for a girl.[/QUOTE]What is disappointing to one guy may be great to another because they have different standards. My standards are probably a lot higher than most, so I wouldn't repeat with 90% of the P4P ladies I've seen, most of whom are streetwalking freelancers, and a few from Thermae. A standard BBBJ and fuck session just doesn't do it for me, let alone those that can't, or won't, even do that.

If I've just arrived in BKK after not being with a woman for months, like many other guys, my standards may be quite a bit lower than they'll be a week or a month later, after getting sex every day.

My success rate is over 80% with the sessions I have with girls because I seldom try new ones anymore, and stick mostly to those who are tried and true, proven over time, and don't usually have an off day.

I don't mind blowing 1000 baht on trying a new streetwalker so much as not ruining my day or week with a lousy session. Hence the advice previously suggested which would tend to help avoid both the waste of money and having just a so-so time.

If a lady can't promise to show me an awesome time I'll never forget, I might prefer to stay alone & beat the monkey. Why settle for average? I've been there, done that, too too many times. I want something new, or even old, that will blow me away. This is a totally different attitude to the sex starved guy in town for a couple days who's thrilled just to get in the same bed with a person of the opposite sex. There are plenty of ladies out there who are willing to give a guy exactly what he wants.

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Heart. Crazy On You (live 1977)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27IW08mC3zE&feature=related[/url]

"Sex is like art. Most of it is pretty bad, and the good stuff is out of your price range."

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1336517]My standards are probably a lot higher than most, so I wouldn't repeat with 90% of the P4P ladies I've seen, most of whom are streetwalking freelancers, and a few from Thermae. A standard BBBJ and fuck session just doesn't do it for me, let alone those that can't, or won't, even do that.[/QUOTE]Well street walking free-lancers is not where I would expect to find the best girls. Are you too much bargain hunting?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1336693]Well street walking free-lancers is not where I would expect to find the best girls. Are you too much bargain hunting?[/QUOTE]A lot of these high end MP are for novices to me. You pick a girl, pay your money, and have no idea about what she is like or what service whe may really give you.

You are an example of that by some of your recent posts of getting bad service in these places.

You can spend 10 or 15 minutes with a SW and find out a little about her and what she is willing to do.

Some of the best sessions I have had iN BKK or Pats are from SW's.

It is not bargain hunting, but smart pussy hunting in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1336695]A lot of these high end MP are for novices to me. You pick a girl, pay your money, and have no idea about what she is like or what service whe may really give you.

You are an example of that by some of your recent posts of getting bad service in these places.[/QUOTE]Pink P is telling us that 9 out of 10 of these SWs are no good. I never had that bad a success rate anywhere. At EZ Massage, I am yet to have a bad session, from memory. Just an example.

At Annies, I tend to be very fussy and only pick the best lookers (not that many). Still yet to have a bad session there too.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1336693]Well street walking free-lancers is not where I would expect to find the best girls. Are you too much bargain hunting?[/QUOTE]Where would you expect to find the "best girls"? In a gentlemen's club full of stunning white skinned models? I've found model types working on the road who are hotter than anything I've ever seen in the gogos. Some of them are ex-gogo employees.

As for "bargain hunting", I'm of the opinion that it's all a bargain in LOS & you generally pay for what you get. What interests me is service that blows my mind. For that I expect, and am willing, to shell out generously. Why else would my phone be constantly ringing.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1336698]Pink P is telling us that 9 out of 10 of these SWs are no good. I never had that bad a success rate anywhere. At EZ Massage, I am yet to have a bad session, from memory. Just an example.[/QUOTE]Like I said, our standards for what is a disappointing session may differ.

For example, if a girl can only do a BBBJ for 5 minutes & claims to be too tired to continue.

Or if a lady agrees to one hour BBBJ but only does 30 minutes.

Or if she doesn't DFK, or only does so lamely, or for only a few minutes, etc.

Or can only fuck for 10, 20, 30 minutes.

Or has bad breath, takes too long to shower, is insistent on a tip, talks too much, won't do what I request, shows less than an excellent happy, positive attitude, etc.

Many things can ruin a session for me.

I've crossed dozens of TGs off my "to see" list because of such things mentioned above.

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AC / DC: You Shook Me All Night Long – Lyrics.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlSuKHH0Cs&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/url]

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1336698]At EZ Massage, I am yet to have a bad session, from memory. Just an example.

At Annies, I tend to be very fussy and only pick the best lookers (not that many). Still yet to have a bad session there too.[/QUOTE]What would it take for you to call a session "bad"? Perhaps not the same as a sex deprived guy in town for 2 days.

MP workers like those at Annies may have more to lose if they perform poorly, such as being fired or business lost due to a bad review.

A streetwalker, OTOH, would probably only lose a single customer who they might have never seen again anyway.

I suggest the lady Annies has rated as 2 out of 10 on their website has disappointed many customers. Why not give her a whirl & let us know if she's up to your "bad session" standards. In the interests of scientific research.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1336712]Like I said, our standards for what is a disappointing session may differ.

For example, if a girl can only do a BBBJ for 5 minutes & claims to be too tired to continue.

Or if a lady agrees to one hour BBBJ but only does 30 minutes.

Or if she doesn't DFK, or only does so lamely, or for only a few minutes, etc.

Or can only fuck for 10, 20, 30 minutes.

Or has bad breath, takes too long to shower, is insistent on a tip, talks too much, won't do what I request, shows less than an excellent happy, positive attitude, etc.

Many things can ruin a session for me.

I've crossed dozens of TGs off my "to see" list because of such things mentioned above.

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AC / DC: You Shook Me All Night Long – Lyrics.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlSuKHH0Cs&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/url][/QUOTE]All good reasons.

The worst for me is stinky pussy. That's why I wait until after to pay.

Hi guys, I will be visiting Bangkok in January and I was wondering if anyone has experienced the black girls who hang around the sukhumvit area, some of them were stunning on my last trip but I didn't get time to sample, any info would be greatly appreciated.

bad start for me and & mango mp, booked ammy 1 week in advanced i show up & they say."mai me booking. amy yang mai ma" i showed them the confirmation e-mail & they said "have problem with computer", disappointed as i was i chose another girl that seemed nice "cream". her picture in their website is ridiculous! not even close to the real girl. anyways we went up and she made a remark that she has just woken. ho goodie. got in the room she vanished for 5-10 min or so as they all do. came back while i started my shower. she quickly joined me, she's 23 & has a really beautiful slim body and great tits (be cups) cute ass, puppy eyes and braces. so she washed me in the shower started playing with my shaft licked it suck my balls a little & than started a nice slow bbbj which felt really good she slide her small hand up and down twisting her hands and her tongue magically.

i knew i wasn't going to cum from her bbbj. too gentle and i didn't want to push so we got the bad she kept on with the bbbj. i turned her over for some kissing (no dfk) sucked on her very nice tits& than for a 69. great pussy but its a shame she's not shaved properly. after a while we started cfs that lasted about 3 min. i was too fired up from the bj i guess. , after first pop i daty her slowly as i knew i will get horny more quickly that way. she moaned and eventually came in my mouth after 5-10 min and i noticed she's embarrassed and covering her cute face. after she got me on my back started a nice oil massage and a short btbm which got me fired up again she lifted my ass up and licked my balls and crunch area. no real rimming but nice still. i felt i was ready for pop no'2 and i turned over and we stared cfs again only this time a told her i want to cum in her ahole she got spoked but agreed to try anyway (i'm a large man so thumbs up for cream) so she k-y'd my cock and her ass and slowly slided on me till she got it all up her ass. moving slowly she moaned & it felt so good being inside her tiny little hole. we changed 3 positions or so eventually i put her on her back rammed her ass slowly than came the big finish. from this point things got a little difficult. by my watch i got 30 min left so i did not fully understood why she rushed to the shower but i followed her anyway. when i jumped on the bed again she was surprised and said that time is up. i should have finished there but i decided to have another pop no matter what so after a small negotiation she agreed to have me inside her for a 3rd time so we went for a last session cfs i she started on top did not seemed into it at all so i asked if she want to stop and call it day. she said don't stop & that she's fine, i dogy styled her for 5 min. did i mentioned her great body? . finally i turned her on her back and started to fuck her at high speed for the big finish. she was exhausted i guess. she knew that it was over so she put on her smile again. final quick shower. payed the tab 2500 plus tip 3000. got to keep those girls happy no? all in all it was fun apart from the end, could & should be better imho. next time i'll take "oil" or "ammy" i like them nasty and dirty and "cream" is not the girl for that. ok gfe at best.

What are the good night clubs in Bangkok that are popular on the weekends. Although I like all the GoGo bar action I enjoy seeing the regular Thai girls out for the weekend and trying my luck with them also. Last time in Bangkok I went to a place called BED I think. Any other suggestions?

[QUOTE=Bongonator7;1336729]Hi guys, I will be visiting Bangkok in January and I was wondering if anyone has experienced the black girls who hang around the sukhumvit area, some of them were stunning on my last trip but I didn't get time to sample, any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Most are pimped; the pimp may be within earshot. If you buy an hour you will only get an hour because the WG will be scared of the pimp.

Why not go to Africa for black girls?

[QUOTE=Chilaxin;1336942]What are the good night clubs in Bangkok that are popular on the weekends. Although I like all the GoGo bar action I enjoy seeing the regular Thai girls out for the weekend and trying my luck with them also. Last time in Bangkok I went to a place called BED I think. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]As a relative newcomer I have amassed enough information from posts on here to cover all the major clubs. I can see why senior members get pissed off with the post above.

All the information is here. Or on many web sites that you can trawl.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1336960]As a relative newcomer I have amassed enough information from posts on here to cover all the major clubs. I can see why senior members get pissed off with the post above.

All the information is here. Or on many web sites that you can trawl.[/QUOTE]I can never understand why someone would go through all the trouble to comment on my post just to tell me to read older posts rather than just answer a question that has not been asked to death on this forum. Either you have too much time on your hands or you would do anything to increase your post count. Whichever it is why don't you just eat it!

[QUOTE=Chilaxin;1336942]What are the good night clubs in Bangkok that are popular on the weekends. Although I like all the GoGo bar action I enjoy seeing the regular Thai girls out for the weekend and trying my luck with them also. Last time in Bangkok I went to a place called BED I think. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]Bangkok Beat, Soi 7/1, a couple of live bands each night, a nice mix of normal girls, some FL and lot of fun.

[QUOTE=AwiBkk;1336863]. Payed the tab 2500 plus tip 3000. Got to keep those girls happy no?[/QUOTE]I am the first to let people pay what they want and I also believe that that will not ruin the market. But I hope that the tip you wrote above has one zero too much.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1337009]But I hope that the tip you wrote above has one zero too much.[/QUOTE]I think you got him wrong. He paid 2. 500 THB for the girl plus 500 THB tip. Altogether 3. 000 THB.

[QUOTE=Bongonator7;1336729]Hi guys, I will be visiting Bangkok in January and I was wondering if anyone has experienced the black girls who hang around the sukhumvit area, some of them were stunning on my last trip but I didn't get time to sample, any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've tried them. Had an absolutely beautiful girl from Kenya, stunning body and knew how to use it. Quoted me 5000 Bht LT, when I laughed she countered 1000 ST which I accepted once we agreed on specific services. Took her to the Star for an excellent session as I'm not up to having FL's in my room. If I see a flavor I like, I take it. Not such a purest that I fuck only local girls.

Josh

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1337011]I think you got him wrong. He paid 2. 500 THB for the girl plus 500 THB tip. Altogether 3. 000 THB.[/QUOTE]On a first reading I read 2500 fee + 3000 tip. On a second reading I see what you meam.

Lost in translation, eventually

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1337048]On a first reading I read 2500 fee + 3000 tip. On a second reading I see what you meam.

Lost in translation, eventually[/QUOTE]Yes friends. 500b tip.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1336958]Most are pimped; the pimp may be within earshot. If you buy an hour you will only get an hour because the WG will be scared of the pimp.

Why not go to Africa for black girls?[/QUOTE]Because I love Thailand but don't like Africa, but like girls from everywhere. 2 birds with one stone etc.

[QUOTE=AwiBkk;1336863]I like them nasty and dirty[/QUOTE]Then go to EDEN

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1337074]Then go to EDEN[/QUOTE]Been there once. Nothing caught my eyes there

Should check again.

I wanted add this snippet of info, not a direct report on gogo's or massage joints but an interaction with WL. I normally work in Singapore and Coe to BKK for fun. In Singapore at orchard towers I pick up this fun looking but not super pretty Thai freelancer. Great service and fantastic personality. Paid 200 SG long time and took her Thai number because I go BKK a lot and was thinking I use her as a regular there.

I ended up loosing interest in using Her services, but each time I am there in BKK we catch up for dinner, First time I declined her offer of going back to my pace but I have since enjoyed asking her questions about her life style and filtering out (trying to) her bullshit answers. One thing that struck me was her ability to make good money, but absolute lack of planning fr cash flow. For example works olny when she is low on money. Sometimes works her self to death in fright of not having money for family back home or rent and what not.

Interestingly she talks about owning and running her own small enterprise selling what ever. She said can't do this for ever too many new pretty girls coming into fl work. Tells me she is saving up after sending money home and paying bills blar blar, but then goes and gets plastic surgery on her face and breasts.

It's funny she could be successful but lacks direction and is not brave enough to leave her work. Not punishing her, just observation, she is BTW a great laugh when we meet up and thinks on the bright side.

[QUOTE=Josh Inyu;1337019]I'm not up to having FL's in my room.[/QUOTE]Very Wise, I suggest other punters follow the same rule.

There have been a few "Robberies" lately and it was all with Street Girls. Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1337074]Then go to EDEN[/QUOTE]What makes the 'Eden' girls so special, except accepting of accepting threesome? Is it worth overpaying the service in comparison to other MPs? Are the girls nastier then in other MPs? If yes, what special (not available elsewhere) nasty funs proposed (for example, do they offer pissing on the girls)? Do the girls come up with ideas or you have to come with a ready scenario, as for a porno film? What are the limits?

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1115679]Anyone has experience with short waitress from Shark? She always work on the right (from the door) part of bar. Don't remember her number.[/QUOTE]Without the number it's hard to say. I was going to take one, she agreed to go, but then the skinny momasan stepped in and said the ST for service girls is 2500 THB. No negotiating. I forget how much extra tariff was added to the BF, maybe they wanted 1k THB. So. 3.5k for ST? I ultimately declined.

FWIW, this girl told me she doesn't go much, and when she does it was with Japanese clients who had a schoolgirl fetish to scratch. She expressed a concern that she might know how to please me.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1337136]Very Wise, I suggest other punters follow the same rule.

There have been a few "Robberies" lately and it was all with Street Girls. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]True. You may recall Pita123 telling you about how I lost 16k THB + camera + wad of USD from a girl who grabbed my keys and came back while I was taking my post-service stroll.

BiB no help.

I am in Bangkok for a long visit with most afternoons free to explore and play.

1. Daytime places. Went to Annies, Mangos, Tulip and Snow White. They all have about the same quality of looks in girls. Good but not stunning. All the girls tried hard and gave reasonable service, however some had almost no English. And they think that using a ton of Baby Oil is the way to get you off. For me, it just dulls the sensations and guarantees no climax. Best facilities was at Annies and I enjoyed the soapy too.

Forget Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong for day time. The are closed. Nana parking lot always has a few FL, but I have not taken one. Went to BierGarden on Soi 7 a couple of times. Did not partake, but the girls looked okay to me.

2. Soi is a side street off of a main avenue. The odd numbers are usually on the north side, and the even numbers on the south side. BUT, soi 23 is not usually across the avenue from Soi 24. In fact, the numbers often run in opposite directions on some avenues. I have even had taxis get lost.

3. I am staying in a local neighborhood remote from central Bangkok. Not many people speak English. Although the street signs are in Thai and English, many people cannot read the English letters. When going somewhere in a taxi, get someone to write down the address in Thai.

-zing

Yesterday was my first full day in BKK. I love this place.

Dr BJ's Nuru: It was an interesting experience. Had #99, she was very sweet and cute with large nipples that I could feel in detail through the massage. Only BBJ.

Annies: I got #24 and damn, she is worthy of the hype. Beautiful, fun and at least seems genuine. Would go again with her, hell I want to smuggle her home.

Soi Cowboy: Went into Rawhide, checked out some of the shows, had quite an experience while there involving a banana, two two girls home (Bar Fine 600b) and enjoyed the time with them. One was crazy and pushy, the other very pretty and sweet. Would repeat the sweet again. 2000b each +400b for the ride home.

The conrad hilton is GF to the point of apathy.

Not sure if I will partake tonight as I have to be up at 4 am. Plus I went a little crazy on suits today.

I was interrupted while writing my report of a first time visitor. Here is some more:

4. The girls are generally thin. No big breasts, no butts, not much silcon.

5. Rapid transit is easy to understand and use; sometimes crowded. The airport rail link city line came nearest to where I was staying, but it is the least useful. You can wait 18 minutes for the next city line train. Stations are immense and empty. There were no BTS or MRT stations near my place, which is too bad, because they are frequent and fast.

6. Taxis are cheap and plentiful. However, many taxis did not want to go out to my neighborhood. Too far for not enough money, when they could get 5 short trips downtown for more money in total. My solution: go to the Marriot hotel, have the bell man call me a taxi, they need to do what he wants or they can't come back to the hotel!

7. Electricity is 220v, but sockets are a mix of american and european, as were the plug heads. A lot of trouble, had to buy a new IPAD charger, etc.

8. Any location full of foriegners is also full of hustlers and touts. I especially like the Grand Palace where one guy told me to go the other way to buy a ticket (lie, is free), then his partner told me it doesn't open for 2 hours today so I should take a boat ride on the river. All the while the speakers on the palace walls are telling me not to believe any strangers on the street and that they are open every day and that it is free!

-zing

[QUOTE=Zing23;1337190]My solution: go to the Marriot hotel, have the bell man call me a taxi, they need to do what he wants or they can't come back to the hotel![/QUOTE]A creative work around for getting to where you needed to go. New regulations require that a taxi take all fares or face a fine / arrest as of Sept. 1. They have a dedicated hotline (1197) you will need the registration number of the cab. If the police are nearby you can complain directly to them (LOL). This is one of 13 traffic violations that can result in immediate arrest.

I pay particular attention to the location of hotels for precisely the reason you mention. It can be cheap, beautiful and with great service but if it's a hassle to get to. It's just not worth it for me. If I'm going someplace out of the way I like to catch the MRT or BTS to the station nearest my destination and cab it from there. Not an option if you travel after midnight!

Josh

[QUOTE=BKK Rookie; 1337142]True. You may recall Pita123 telling you about how I lost 16k THB + camera + wad of USD from a girl who grabbed my keys and came back while I was taking my post-service stroll.

BiB no help.[/QUOTE]Freelancers, including streetwalkers, may not only rob you, they were reported to have a 19 percent rate of HIV & have no accountability to a boss (unless it's a pimp or BF) or to online reviews to perform. They are also often under the influence of the Russian or Thai mafia, alcohol or illicit drugs like yaba & ice.

You're much safer going to places like Annies where the sex workers have regular STI testing & are taught by Aey & Mr BJ how to behave properly & give oral sex.

Hello,

I can suggest 2 ways of doing this (tried both myself).1st get a Voip service. The one I use is iconnecthere.

They give you a US free number in any state. Incoming is free and outgoing to US is 2c a minute.

You can say you are traveling to that state and provide that number. Next when you reach Bangkok take a local 3G connection with 1 week of unlimited internet. It is available at the airport at 500 baht. Now if you have a smartphone (android or iphone) you can download the iconnecthere app and use that to make incoming and outgoing calls. Your US number will show up on outgoing calls and incoming calls will come in directly if you keep app on. In case you don't have a smartphone you can use the Iconnecthere web interface to redirect all incoming calls to your local Thai number. This will cost you an additional 10cents per minute.

I've given you the method with iconnecthere but the same method will work with any voip virtual service.

I've used this twice and no one can ever make out where I am including my girlfriend and colleages.

[QUOTE=Charm City Dave; 1334569]Hi,

Haven't been to Thailand in over 10 years and may have the opportunity to go. Question is will my AT&T cell phone give me away.

1) If someone calls me and gets voicemail, will it have a funny international ring, go to some Thai voicemail sevice or in anyway let the caller know where I am?

2) If I call back to the USA from that cell phone, will it show any different on caller I'd then if I was still in the states?

When I was there back in 99, there was a fellow who had told his family he was in Detroit. He took calls from them and called from is cell all the time.

Thank!

Ccd[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zing23; 1337190]I especially like the Grand Palace where one guy told me to go the other way to buy a ticket (lie, is free) , then his partner told me it doesn't open for 2 hours today so I should take a boat ride on the river. All the while the speakers on the palace walls are telling me not to believe any strangers on the street and that they are open every day and that it is free!

-zing[/QUOTE]There is a huge plague mounted by the entrance that reads "beware the willy stranger." It exists for a reason.

[QUOTE=BadDances; 1337157]Yesterday was my first full day in BKK. I love this place.

Dr BJ's Nuru: It was an interesting experience. Had #99, she was very sweet and cute with large nipples that I could feel in detail through the massage. Only BBJ.

Annies: I got #24 and damn, she is worthy of the hype. Beautiful, fun and at least seems genuine. Would go again with her, hell I want to smuggle her home.

Soi Cowboy: Went into Rawhide, checked out some of the shows, had quite an experience while there involving a banana, two two girls home (Bar Fine 600b) and enjoyed the time with them. One was crazy and pushy, the other very pretty and sweet. Would repeat the sweet again. 2000b each +400b for the ride home.

The conrad hilton is GF to the point of apathy.

Not sure if I will partake tonight as I have to be up at 4 am. Plus I went a little crazy on suits today.[/QUOTE]As you don't mind paying above prevailing wage (just an observation) you may want to check out the bar on the ground floor at the Conrad. The one in the walkway that connects you to the mall.

It's been more than a few years, so maybe the bar is gone, but I remember stunning freelancers out of there for 4k THB. Again, it's been years.

[quote=zing23; 1337148]1. daytime places. went to annies, mangos, tulip and snow white. they all have about the same quality of looks in girls. good but not stunning. all the girls tried hard and gave reasonable service, however some had almost no english. and they think that using a ton of baby oil is the way to get you off. for me, it just dulls the sensations and guarantees no climax. best facilities was at annies and i enjoyed the soapy too.

forget nana plaza, soi cowboy and patpong for day time. the are closed. nana parking lot always has a few fl, but i have not taken one. went to biergarden on soi 7 a couple of times. did not partake, but the girls looked okay to me.

-zing[/quote]hey zing, you are a bbbj guy right? i recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]; its a bbbj cim place heh. google it bangkoklolitas or something. i think they open at 11am; nice way to start the day anyway. and yes i agree the girls are not that much to look at.

[QUOTE=Bkk Rookie;1337388]There is a huge plague mounted by the entrance that reads "beware the willy stranger." It exists for a reason.[/QUOTE]LOL,

While I agree these types are a plague upon mankind, I think the Thaiglish translation should read "wiley" as in deceitful or cunning. In Thaiglish that would have ended up as "cunting". I remember a few years ago McD's had a special "valve" meal. Delicious, but hard on the teeth.

Josh

[QUOTE=Josh Inyu; 1337406]LOL,

While I agree these types are a plague upon mankind, I think the Thaiglish translation should read "wiley" as in deceitful or cunning. In Thaiglish that would have ended up as "cunting". I remember a few years ago McD's had a special "valve" meal. Delicious, but hard on the teeth.

Josh[/QUOTE]The dangers of predictive typing.

I meant to type "plaque" as in "sign."

There actually is a sign by the entrance that reads "beware the willy stranger."

Sorry for the confusion!

[quote=themyooo;1337390]hey zing, you are a bbbj guy right? i recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]; its a bbbj cim place heh. google it bangkoklolitas or something. i think they open at 11am; nice way to start the day anyway. and yes i agree the girls are not that much to look at.[/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s actually opens at 8 am! a few of the girls there are pretty cute. for best selection go around 4pm or so when the day shift girls are about the leave and the evening shift girls are showing up.

[QUOTE=Bongonator7;1336729]Hi guys, I will be visiting Bangkok in January and I was wondering if anyone has experienced the black girls who hang around the sukhumvit area, some of them were stunning on my last trip but I didn't get time to sample, any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sex workers from sub-Saharan Africa have by far the highest incidence of HIV in the world. I'm guessing more than half of them, but a bit of googling would tell you. You'd have to have some very deep trust in your condoms.

[quote=themyooo;1337390]hey zing, you are a bbbj guy right? i recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]; its a bbbj cim place heh. google it bangkoklolitas or something. i think they open at 11am; nice way to start the day anyway. and yes i agree the girls are not that much to look at.[/quote]i would advise against [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. i have been there countless times and it just can't hold a candle to its competitors. i posted a report earlier about bj bars. search and ye shall find.

[quote=bartchamdo;1337533][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s actually opens at 8 am! a few of the girls there are pretty cute. for best selection go around 4pm or so when the day shift girls are about the leave and the evening shift girls are showing up.[/quote]there is one or two doing the morning shift, pom is one. she has dyed her hair with highlights she kinda cute, no youngster, not shy about taking a shot to the jaw.

Any one recommend and ready to go fun hotel?

Thanks

[QUOTE=BKK Rookie; 1337389]As you don't mind paying above prevailing wage (just an observation) you may want to check out the bar on the ground floor at the Conrad. The one in the walkway that connects you to the mall.

It's been more than a few years, so maybe the bar is gone, but I remember stunning freelancers out of there for 4k THB. Again, it's been years.[/QUOTE]The club is still there club 97plus or something like that it is called. But it is totally dead, there are still a few FLers who pop in. If that is your scene I think Bar Su at the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit is better. It is normally very lively there and there is a good selection of FLers. But as you point out the price is high.

Also be aware drinks in both of the these places are very pricey.

[QUOTE=AJackelBoy; 1337742]Any one recommend and ready to go fun hotel?

Thanks[/QUOTE]What's a fun hotel?

Dear BKK Thread,

Warm greetings from Korea!

I'll be headed to BKK on October 25 and looking to have a good time.

Fairly young. 27. But wanting to experience things that the typical girl next door wouldn't do (eg. A-Level).

I've looked over the thread and noticed that the place to go is Soi Cowboy if around the BKK area.

I'll be staying at the Hyatt but unfortunately, for the life of me, having a hard time getting my bearings on where to go to have a good time.

Price wise, it seems like a typical short term will end up around 1, 000TBH while a long is 3, 000TBH. Is that right? I only ask as it is due to respect, that once newbies like I start overpaying for services that our senior members are used to, that ruins it for all of us.

If anyone could help me get some proper direction and recomendations are always welcome, I would greatly appreciate it. When not busy, I always contribute in these ways (I know it's not alot).

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=1338088&viewfull=1#post1338088[/url]

It's in the Korean thread. As that's where I am.

Thank you for reading, and I hope to get some good tips to contribute on this side as well.

As always, keep the good hunt!

Dear BKK Thread,

Warm greetings from Korea!

I'll be headed to BKK on October 25 and looking to have a good time.

Fairly young. 27. But wanting to experience things that the typical girl next door wouldn't do (eg. A-Level).

I've looked over the thread and noticed that the place to go is Soi Cowboy if around the BKK area.

I'll be staying at the Hyatt but unfortunately, for the life of me, having a hard time getting my bearings on where to go to have a good time.

Price wise, it seems like a typical short term will end up around 1, 000TBH while a long is 3, 000TBH. Is that right? I only ask as it is due to respect, that once newbies like I start overpaying for services that our senior members are used to, that ruins it for all of us.

If anyone could help me get some proper direction and recomendations are always welcome, I would greatly appreciate it. When not busy, I always contribute in these ways (I know it's not alot).

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.inf.=1#post1338088[/url]

It's in the Korean thread. As that's where I am.

Thank you for reading, and I hope to get some good tips to contribute on this side as well.

As always, keep the good hunt!

Guys, will be in town next week. Keep reading else where, the pendulum is swinging from SC to Nana. Is it true? Can anybody suggest couple of Go-gos at both places with depth of talent and less in habit of fleecing feeding hand at present. Also don't like hassle of lady boys in side the shop. Appreciate any added info.

Mam

Recently spent "One Night in Bangkok". This was my first mongering trip to Thailand. I stayed at the Sumkuvit Aloft Hotel, which I can confirm is girl-friendly. Thanks to everyone for the great advice on this board. I was like a kid in a candy store! I wasn't sure where to begin. I spent a better part of the day just wandering around, checking out places. I was sorely disappointed with the talent at Edens and Annies. Eventually made is to Snow White about 16:00. There were 5 or 6 girls of average looks. I picked a girl named "Momay", who was about 5 foot tall, short bob haircut, teeth braces and tiny A-cup boobs. She was cute, girl-next-door type. I'd give her a 7 out of 10 for looks and service. She took me upstairs and gave me a nice shower massage, followed by BBBJ, DATY, full service. Nothing spectacular, but she did ask me to marry her! I forgot what I paid but it was more than I had read on this board, but not by much.

Next I wandered to took the metro up to Ratchadapisek Road and went to Poseidon. Damn, this is truly an adult toy store! I walked in and checked out the fishbowl (first time I've seen a fishbowl). Went upstairs to the "models" area but all the girls there looked like anorexic models. If that's your thing, so be it. I went back down to the fishbowl, nursed a beer and stared at the "fish", finally settling on "Sherry". She was sitting on the far-right, most expensive girls section, paid about 3000 Baht, and she was worth every cent. Sherry was about 5 foot 2 inches, HUGE fake DD boobs, very attractive. I give her 9 on looks and service. The rooms were like nice hotel suites. Ordered a beer from the mamasan, then Sherry took me into the hot tub and bathed me, followed by a tongue bath, BBBJ, DATY and full service. Didn't ask if anal or other services were on offer but I was happy with the service. I tipped her 1000.

After that, I took a cab to Soi Cowboy and wandered around the bars. The girls at Dollhouse and Bacarra were absolutely fantastic, and I was kicking myself for not going here first. Contrary to some reports, there were no Japanese tourists at Bacarra; it was mostly Western mongers. But at this point it was close to 12:30am and I was dead tired. But I still had not been to Nana Plaza. So I WALKED all the way to Nana and then in just one hour, I managed to visit EVERY single establishment as quickly as I could. Some girls were very pushy, other places not so. If I went back again, I would pick Angel Witch or Rainbow 4. By now it was past 2am and I was jetlagged and dead tired. Went back to hotel alone, and caught early flight home. Also had some great meals at street stalls near Soi Cowboy. Pho Soup and beer for peanuts!

Looking forward to my next, extended trip to Bangkok!

stopped by rainbow 4 last night. place was packed at 11:00 pm. lots of very pretty girls on stage. started talking with #60 dream. very nice girl. we talked and danced with each other for a while. i bought her a ld and had a coke. i was wearing my special shorts last night that has a hole in the pocket. soon her had was playing with horny jr. she asked about st at 2000. i said no. i asked about lt she said 3000. i said hell no. now she had a good grip on things so we haggled some more and she went for 2000 lt midnight til 8:00am. bar fine plus check bin was 700. we walked back to the room and had a shower together. then to the bed for some foreplay and a very good cbj. then a massage for me then round two. i started to play with her pussy and she became very wet. put the cover on and started miss. then cg and doggie. popped while i was playing with the but hole. another shower then a short nap. woke up at 7:00 with another go around. popped then paid her and she left to go to the temple. i took a shower and walked over to moon son for breakfast then hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for my morning bj.

picked a girl named far. cut thing with long hair and nice small tits. went to the third floor for a very good bbbjcim. took about 20 minutes. 800 for the house and 200 for far. she did ask me to come back on friday morning for some more play.

now, what should i do today. maybe thanks massage?

horny

this is my 4th day in bkk. i have had very good luck as usual.

first, i hooked up with a hottie on thai lovelinks who has a car, and a great job with the airlines. she met me when i got off my flight and ushered me thru priority immgration. she drove me to my hotel, spent the night, and we fucked twice before she had to leave for work in the morning. she sucked my cock and i barebacked her with cum in pussy.

over the last 4 days, i have met with three other tll girls. i did take two of them to dinner. all were bbfs, with cip.

the dating sites are great, but much work. i don't know now if they are worth it. i spent many hours / days communicating with these girls. the results were good, but i almost think p4p is easier and less work than the dating sites.

additionally, between meeting with the tll girls, i have hit up dr. bj, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, and lollipop's. i am more and more convinced that lollipop's is the best of the three. the last 4 times there, it has been full on dfk, licking pussy, cocking sucking, and fucking in the booth. the place is great and girls not bad looking in my opinion. 1100 for bbbj and fuck in the booth.

i also hit up one of my favorite mp's off soi 11 for a bj and bbfs.

so, in 4 days, i have fucked 6 and had my cocked sucked with cim by 2. not bad for a start.

i am heading to khon kaen to meet a tll girl. she is model quality, so we will see. then on to pattaya for more debauchery.

hope all of you are having fun at work. am i crazy! hahahahahha.

[quote=luvpuss; 1338696]this is my 4th day in bkk. i have had very good luck as usual.

first, i hooked up with a hottie on thai lovelinks who has a car, and a great job with the airlines. she met me when i got off my flight and ushered me thru priority immgration. she drove me to my hotel, spent the night, and we fucked twice before she had to leave for work in the morning. she sucked my cock and i barebacked her with cum in pussy.

over the last 4 days, i have met with three other tll girls. i did take two of them to dinner. all were bbfs, with cip.

the dating sites are great, but much work. i don't know now if they are worth it. i spent many hours / days communicating with these girls. the results were good, but i almost think p4p is easier and less work than the dating sites.

additionally, between meeting with the tll girls, i have hit up dr. bj, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, and lollipop's. i am more and more convinced that lollipop's is the best of the three. the last 4 times there, it has been full on dfk, licking pussy, cocking sucking, and fucking in the booth. the place is great and girls not bad looking in my opinion. 1100 for bbbj and fuck in the booth.

i also hit up one of my favorite mp's off soi 11 for a bj and bbfs.

so, in 4 days, i have fucked 6 and had my cocked sucked with cim by 2. not bad for a start.

i am heading to khon kaen to meet a tll girl. she is model quality, so we will see. then on to pattaya for more debauchery.

hope all of you are having fun at work. am i crazy! hahahahahha.[/quote]it does sound like you're having "good luck" & a lot of fun.

though i have to wonder about the mindset of the tll girls recieving bbfs, especially with cip. are they on the pill or hoping to recieve a farang white skinned baby?

ime generally the p4p gals don't want cip.

do you ever get the ladies contacting you, saying they're pregnant, and they think it is, or might be, yours? with abortion not being legal in thailand, this could be a problem if you were believed or proven to be the father, via a dna test.

as for the tll hookups, you didn't mention any payment of the ladies as in p4p. are these types just looking for a good time, hoping to get a bf, husband, sponsor? are they gold diggers, hoping for a donation or you'll take them shopping? clingy, calling & texting you constantly?

if i recall you are around 60 years old. how old were your "dates"?

[quote=themyooo;1337390]hey zing, you are a bbbj guy right? i recommend [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]; its a bbbj cim place heh. google it bangkoklolitas or something. i think they open at 11am; nice way to start the day anyway. and yes i agree the girls are not that much to look at.[/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s actually starts at 0830 hours.

Can any member provide some feedback on the above freelancers? Also, what is the modus operandi. Back to your hotel, or the use of short time love hotels?

What is the ST rate? Appreciations.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1338721]It does sound like you're having "good luck" & a lot of fun.

Though I have to wonder about the mindset of the TLL girls recieving BBFS, especially with CIP. Are they on the pill or hoping to recieve a farang white skinned baby?

IME generally the P4P gals don't want CIP.

Do you ever get the ladies contacting you, saying they're pregnant, and they think it is, or might be, yours? With abortion not being legal in Thailand, this could be a problem if you were believed or proven to be the father, via a DNA test.

As for the TLL hookups, you didn't mention any payment of the ladies as in P4P. Are these types just looking for a good time, hoping to get a BF, husband, sponsor? Are they gold diggers, hoping for a donation or you'll take them shopping? Clingy, calling & texting you constantly?[/QUOTE]No need for a DNA test. You just go to the pharmacy the next day and get the morning after pill for 50 baht. This is 2012 not 1912. Why would he give a girl from an online dating site money? (with the exception of many women on DIA in the Philippines.) It's a dating site, not an escort site.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1338901]No need for a DNA test. You just go to the pharmacy the next day and get the morning after pill for 50 baht. This is 2012 not 1912.[/QUOTE]If she doesn't want a baby after recieving CIP, that might be a good idea.

If she does want a baby, a farang guy could end up with a fat bellied TG at his door. Hello daddy!

That's when the issue of a DNA test may arise.

It's not rocket science.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1338901]Why would he give a girl from an online dating site money? (with the exception of many women on DIA in the Philippines.) It's a dating site, not an escort site.[/QUOTE]I couldn't say. Maybe because it's poverty striken Thailand, she fucked his brains out all day long and asked for cash, either before or after the fact?

It's quite well known that "dating sites" are full of hookers, sugar babes, gold diggers & the like.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1338721]It does sound like you're having "good luck" & a lot of fun.

Though I have to wonder about the mindset of the TLL girls recieving BBFS, especially with CIP. Are they on the pill or hoping to recieve a farang white skinned baby?

IME generally the P4P gals don't want CIP.

Do you ever get the ladies contacting you, saying they're pregnant, and they think it is, or might be, yours? With abortion not being legal in Thailand, this could be a problem if you were believed or proven to be the father, via a DNA test.

As for the TLL hookups, you didn't mention any payment of the ladies as in P4P. Are these types just looking for a good time, hoping to get a BF, husband, sponsor? Are they gold diggers, hoping for a donation or you'll take them shopping? Clingy, calling & texting you constantly?

If I recall you are around 60 years old. How old were your "dates"?[/QUOTE]Maby not fair to interfer with another mongers post but I had a datingsite girl contacting me 2 years ago with the message as follows:

"Hi Skogis how are you? I did not have my period as expected (almost 2 months now) so I went to buy a preggytest. I am pregnant Skogis and it has to be yours. What do you think about this?"

As this came as a sudden shock me reading the sms relaxing on the sofa watching some crappy norwegian football I fell down on the floor. Positioning me back on the sofa I started thinking this is just BS and some weird way of extorting money from me. But as this girl was quite a non P4P girl I had my doubts and was thinking maby this was actually the truth. I had actually no reason not to believe her. So I told her just relax I am coming. So I bought myself a ticket and went to BKK to soulve this issue. Meeting her at the airport I told her I needed some proof (even if she was thrustworthy as far as I know and still I have no reason to believe otherwice as she is still in my fleet of regulars). She did understand that. We went back to her apt and jetlegged I crashed down on her bed as she went to buy another preggy test. It came out positive (the test). Then it was decissionmaking as we counted back to almost 2 months since me CIP'ed her (I rarely did that so easy to count back). As I am very afraid of beeing scammed (never exp anything bad but reading to much forums makes me paranoide, hehe) I told her I would like to have it DNA tested. She became somewhat moody (quite understandable) but accepted and deep inside herself she also understood (atleast so she claimed).

I lied to her saying I did order session at one hospital used by norwegian embassy employees. I told her we had to go after her work the next day. She accepted. When she got back from work I waited and we took her car and off we drove. On the way I revealed it was just a lie I did order a hospital session. Just testing her thrustworthiness. We went back to her apt and we had to decide to go for abortion or keeping. I had no interest in having baby with her (I did not say that) as I have to busy life mongering and sth work to take care of baby(and maby my norwegian gf would be not so happy, hehe). But I also told her if she wanted to keep the baby I would take full responsibility (she is borned and raised BKK girl. Single child. With parents nearby so no worries the baby would have great life). I was voting for abortion and she agreed as we were not a couple and me beeing hooked up back home probably never would be. No problem having abortion in Thailand but yes it is illigal. But as most things in corrupted Thailand everything can be bought from money. I did not have time to stay long so she had the abortion after I had to head back home. She told me the abortion cost 7000bht so I put 30000bht`s into her bankaccount for the trouble and some sort of compensation from a rather expensive CIP (airfare incl, hehe).

But she is great girl..

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1338721]It does sound like you're having "good luck" & a lot of fun.

Though I have to wonder about the mindset of the TLL girls recieving BBFS, especially with CIP. Are they on the pill or hoping to recieve a farang white skinned baby?

IME generally the P4P gals don't want CIP.

Do you ever get the ladies contacting you, saying they're pregnant, and they think it is, or might be, yours? With abortion not being legal in Thailand, this could be a problem if you were believed or proven to be the father, via a DNA test.

As for the TLL hookups, you didn't mention any payment of the ladies as in P4P. Are these types just looking for a good time, hoping to get a BF, husband, sponsor? Are they gold diggers, hoping for a donation or you'll take them shopping? Clingy, calling & texting you constantly?

If I recall you are around 60 years old. How old were your "dates"?[/QUOTE]They can DNA test all they want, I got a vasectomy many years ago.

All the girls were 29-34.

Yeah they want a BF. I would like a GF if I can find the right one. No gold digging yet. I am sure they have bills. But I always pick the girls who have good jobs, have traveled, are professional, and usually have a car. Like I said, it is very time consuming. But, they feel they know me prior to meet so a lot of the BS chit chat is over.

I'm now of the opinion after a good session or two with a girl you should call it quits.

Case in point. There have been some good reviews of #24 of Annie's. Some people have called her "The Model". So now the question for me is will "The Model" give me bare pussy the first time I see her. I would say it is a 60% chance. After a couple of hot sessions, whats left? Things only go downhill from there.

Same thing with internet girls. They all bareback. However, as Luvpus mentioned, fucking these girls requires a lot of mundane chit chat, that is like watching paint dry. After you fuck one, she is still going to require all that communication and nonsense, not to mention other bullshit she might be after.

One last thing about Thai girls if you live here, sure sometimes you might let a Thai girl know where you live. But NEVER, tell them where you really work for a long time. I had this b*tch try to get me fired one time.

Friends.

I am acutely aware that this posting does not belong here but I am hoping that some of the experienced participants in this forum can assist me. So here it goes. :

I am presently in Houston Texas and I fancy this cute girl I met in BKK during my last visit in July 2012. I want to buy her a two hours massage session at Lavana (Off Sukhumvit Soi 12) but this fine fine establishment just plainly refuse to charge my credit card info over the phone the fax or email. I do not want to send money directly to my friend because it will be used for other purposes.

I know how some people can be unforgiving, ruthless, sarcastic and negative and that's OK. I only need one useful suggestion.

Peace!

Bambalouni

Checked in to JW Marriott around 6 pm, walked to Nana, found the bar next to the parking lot (don't have the name, just across from Hilary's 2) , got the front-corner seat so I had a good view of the street and parking lot. Almost immediately an exotic looking girl showed up in the parking lot, stood near the entrance. Full, amost frizzy dark hair, not exactly Thai-looking, more Arab. I sat for almost an hour, three beers, watched the girls climb out of the taxi's to either enter Entertainment complex or take up a position in the parking lot. A few very nice looking ones. One in particular, tall, long legs with very short blue jean shorts, short hair, great smile as we made eye contact. But I kept going back to the frizzy hair. Finally decided to go talk to her. Great decision.

Her name is Nadia, and she is half-Iran / half Thai so this explains her exotic, Arab type appearance. Quickly discovered she is quite clever, has done some travel (she described in detail a few of my favorite restaurants in Xintiandi in Shanghai) and we had a lively 5 minute conversation. Her body was not fantastic, but I quickly decided we would have a nice time talking even if the sex was not outstanding. I soon discovered both would be true!

No discussion about money, I just asked her if she would come with me, she said yes and off we went.

Short walk to the JW, sat on the bed to remove our shoes and we both suggested showering. But instead I leaned back on the bed and drew her up next to me as we continued our chat, she began to caress my crotch through my clothes. I pulled my pants down and she immediately took my rock-hard cock in her mouth, but contined the converstion. This was interesting! She would talk, then suck, then respond to my comment, then suck. She even urged me to tell her more about my job while she sucked and moaned. I've not had a BBBJ like this one. I kicked off my pants to give her full access and she added some ball-licking to the BBBJ, all the while continuing the conversation. I helped her remove her clothes, than after several minutes of talking / BBBJ I climbed on top of her and began to rub my cock across her very wet pussy. I did not intend BBFS, but before long she positioned her hips so that I slid inside. I stroked very slowly for several minutes, most of the time we continued our conversation about travel, life, the world, any topic and every topic. I did not want to CIP so every 10 minutes or so I would pull out to take a break, and she immediatly slid down to continue the BBBJ, even though I was covered with her juice! Blows my mind!

We tried several positions, finally I retrieved a condom, covered, then continued the experiementation. I finally blew my load as she was lying on her stomach with my flat on her back. It was extrememly satisfying. Only then did we make our way to the shower. By now we had been slow-fucking / talking for over one hour.

Following the shower we cuddled together, she was really into DFK, and as we lay side-by-side I got hard again, she lifted one leg and I entered her from behind, again bareback as we lay on the bed (is this called scissors?). I did not intend to plunge away and screw her brains out, instead I just entered and moved very slowly, or I would stop and she moved very slowly, and we continued this for a long time. I could feel the end in site so I pulled out and she used her hands to get me off, DFK along the way. By now three hours had passed, quite a marathon for me but with the very slow pace it didn't really wear me out too badly.

So we slept, finally. I had to get up early to catch a flight, leave JW around 5:30 so after only about 3 hours sleep I found myself awake around 4 am. She was curled in my arms with one arm around me and the other arm such that she was holding my cock. Once I realized her hand was around my cock I got hard again and this seemed to wake her up. She slid under the covers to start up the BBBJ yet again! Wow. Not even "good morning". Heavenly.

I lay there and absorbed her wonderful BJ until time was up, I had to quickly shower, show Nadia to the door and catch my taxi. I showered, packed while she showered, I counted out 1, 800 THB (all I had except for cab fare) and handed the money to her once she had dressed. I don't know if that was enough, not enough, made her happy or sad, she did not seem to respond to the amount of money in any way. She sat on the bed as I gathered my suitcases to walk out the door, I was standing in front of her, she sitting on the bed, we continued to talk and chat, so on an impulse I reached down, unzipped, pulled Junior out of my pants and sure enough, she leaned forward and took me in her mouth as we had our "good-bye" chat, talk, suck, talk and suck. I could have let this continue for a while, but had to stop the madness after just three or four minutes. Off to the taxi. One of the most memorable encounters I've had.

I don't have a BKK regular, but on my next trip I will try Nadia first. Oh the memories!

[QUOTE=Bambalouni; 1339339]Friends.

I am acutely aware that this posting does not belong here but I am hoping that some of the experienced participants in this forum can assist me. So here it goes. :

I am presently in Houston Texas and I fancy this cute girl I met in BKK during my last visit in July 2012. I want to buy her a two hours massage session at Lavana (Off Sukhumvit Soi 12) but this fine fine establishment just plainly refuse to charge my credit card info over the phone the fax or email. I do not want to send money directly to my friend because it will be used for other purposes.

I know how some people can be unforgiving, ruthless, sarcastic and negative and that's OK. I only need one useful suggestion.

Peace!

Bambalouni[/QUOTE]Did they provide a solution or just totally refused?

LBM

I recently tried Dr. BJ Budget Bangers. I've gone 2 times with #22. She's a bit on the chubby side, taller than the average Thai girl, and has pale skin. She's in her 30's. She's not gorgeous, but she has a nice rack and a fantastic attitude. She asks what you want to do and does her best to make you happy. She didn't rush the session at all. Just the opposite is true. She reminded me that we have a whole hour and didn't act like she was in a hurry for that hour to be up. After BBBJ and sex was over she asked if I wanted a massage. She took her time at it and kept asking if I was enjoying it. This is a woman who is clearly trying to get repeat business.

The place just opened and business seems a bit slow, but I guess that can be expected from any business just starting. Besides, high season hasn't really started. The rooms are clean and large enough. I didn't like how the lineup is both on the ground floor and on the balcony above. It makes it hard to get a good look at the girls above. Also, it seems normal for one or more girls to be napping up there. Can't they nap somewhere else? I'm sure the place will work out the kinks after they've been open a while.

Good value for 1000 baht. After all the reviews I've read on ISG of people dissatisfied with the attitude and / or poor service of the girl they're paying 3000 baht for, it convinces me that you don't always get what you pay for.

Hi,

Yes I agree with your point on letting them know where you live. I had one girl at my hotel, I decided that it was not working out after 2 days, I pulled the old I have to go over seas, so better we part ways and meet next week an I back to BKK. She had her friends stack out my hotel, and when her Frend saw me at MBk on escalator she took pics me and sent them to that girl who in turn sent them to me to catch me out on a little lie. Now I move between hotels and friends condos, just to be safe f I end it with a lovely girl. BTW I am talking about non pros or semi pro.

I was shocked at the network some Gris keep with store assistances, security guards and hotel staff. But I guess a lesson learned.

But I will never do anything for a girl, if I detect that type of attitude.

[QUOTE=Oidar; 1339041]I'm now of the opinion after a good session or two with a girl you should call it quits.

Case in point. There have been some good reviews of #24 of Annie's. Some people have called her "The Model". So now the question for me is will "The Model" give me bare pussy the first time I see her. I would say it is a 60% chance. After a couple of hot sessions, whats left? Things only go downhill from there.

Same thing with internet girls. They all bareback. However, as Luvpus mentioned, fucking these girls requires a lot of mundane chit chat, that is like watching paint dry. After you fuck one, she is still going to require all that communication and nonsense, not to mention other bullshit she might be after.

One last thing about Thai girls if you live here, sure sometimes you might let a Thai girl know where you live. But NEVER, tell them where you really work for a long time. I had this be*tch try to get me fired one time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1339403]Did they provide a solution or just totally refused?

LBM[/QUOTE]They said I should buy the massage session through a travel agency. I think they were just giving me the run around. Besides I do not have any contacts for a travel agency in BKK that can handle this simple matter.

Hey Fellas,

I'm coming to Bangkok last week in November. Staying at the JW for one week (not a lot of weekend time unfortunately). I've read the posts and I feel well-informed on where to find talent of all types.

Preferably, I'd like to find someone to hang out with during the week in evenings, someone who can help me get a phone, show me around, have some dinner, be a friend, and yes fuck like dogs. I prefer chubby / curvy / voluptuous, but I won't turn down skinny. I am not a stickler for dimes or anything, the attitude and friendliness are very important. She must be a positive cheerful person who aims to please. I have found girls like this in China, Africa, and South America. Hopefully one may exist in Bangkok and you guys may be able to recommend her.

Anyway, I know this may not be some guy's cup of tea but I like to relax with one girl if possible, treat her right, have, fun, make a friend, come back for more later. Any intel or suggestions, please let me know!

I have just the person for you but you don't have PM so no way to contact you.

[QUOTE=HotPepperAtl; 1339533]Hey Fellas,

I'm coming to Bangkok last week in November.

Anyway, I know this may not be some guy's cup of tea but I like to relax with one girl if possible, treat her right, have, fun, make a friend, come back for more later. Any intel or suggestions, please let me know![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1339428]I recently tried Dr. BJ Budget Bangers. I've gone 2 times with #22. She's a bit on the chubby side, taller than the average Thai girl, and has pale skin. She's in her 30's. She's not gorgeous, but she has a nice rack and a fantastic attitude. She asks what you want to do and does her best to make you happy. She didn't rush the session at all. Just the opposite is true. She reminded me that we have a whole hour and didn't act like she was in a hurry for that hour to be up. After BBBJ and sex was over she asked if I wanted a massage. She took her time at it and kept asking if I was enjoying it. This is a woman who is clearly trying to get repeat business.

The place just opened and business seems a bit slow, but I guess that can be expected from any business just starting. Besides, high season hasn't really started. The rooms are clean and large enough. I didn't like how the lineup is both on the ground floor and on the balcony above. It makes it hard to get a good look at the girls above. Also, it seems normal for one or more girls to be napping up there. Can't they nap somewhere else? I'm sure the place will work out the kinks after they've been open a while.

Good value for 1000 baht. After all the reviews I've read on ISG of people dissatisfied with the attitude and / or poor service of the girl they're paying 3000 baht for, it convinces me that you don't always get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]You said "After BBBJ and sex was over she asked if I wanted a massage. She took her time at it and kept asking if I was enjoying it. This is a woman who is clearly trying to get repeat business." was that 1 or 2 pops?

[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun;1339601]I have just the person for you but you don't have PM so no way to contact you.[/QUOTE]I am looking for exactly the same thing for this coming weekend. My first trip to BKK. I tried to PM you, Jersey, but your box is full. Anyone else have suggestions? If not, I will keep working DIA and just enjoy the massage and bar girls. But my preference is LT for a weekend with a GFE.

THANKS everyone for great reports.

[QUOTE=Gern; 1339730]I am looking for exactly the same thing for this coming weekend. My first trip to BKK. I tried to PM you, Jersey, but your box is full. Anyone else have suggestions? If not, I will keep working DIA and just enjoy the massage and bar girls. But my preference is LT for a weekend with a GFE.

THANKS everyone for great reports.[/QUOTE]The "Nadia" I describe just a few posts down the page has apparently done this very thing for a few guys, I'm recommending her!

[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun;1339601]I have just the person for you but you don't have PM so no way to contact you.[/QUOTE]PM issue is resolved, please send me the info.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1338721]Do you ever get the ladies contacting you, saying they're pregnant, and they think it is, or might be, yours? With abortion not being legal in Thailand, this could be a problem if you were believed or proven to be the father, via a DNA test.[/QUOTE]Thai girls are not good with contraception. Poor education. Many don't even know about morning after pills. I am aware of Thai girls with half Farang babies, and trying to work out how to make the unsuspecting father submit to DNA tests and support the child. Meanwhile the guy has wife / GF etc.

Like Gern and Hot Pepper, I'm looking for someone I can spend a few days with. I will be in BKK from November 8-16. However, I would like someone who is relatively slim, not too voluptuous. I would like someone who is GFE, speaks pretty good English and has a beautfiful face. I would like to take her out to dinner and explore Bangkok as well as have sex. In the past, I took Yok out for days at a time and enjoyed myself. Now, she's retired, so I'm looking for someone else, but along the same lines. I'm very gentle and generous with the girls and I stay in upscale hotels, so if you know someone you would like to reward, please PM me. Thank you.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1339737]The "Nadia" I describe just a few posts down the page has apparently done this very thing for a few guys, I'm recommending her![/QUOTE]Any contact info for Nadia, BushWhack? Also, tell us about her body. You indicate it was not all that good. Can you be more specific? I love the details in your description of the sex, but if I am going to seek her out, I would like to know a few more details. Thanks.

[QUOTE=TConor;1339659]You said "After BBBJ and sex was over she asked if I wanted a massage. She took her time at it and kept asking if I was enjoying it. This is a woman who is clearly trying to get repeat business." was that 1 or 2 pops?[/QUOTE]In all of the excitement I'm sure it was hard to remember whether it was one or two, What was your experience?

[quote=horndog 3; 1338552]i took a shower and walked over to moon son for breakfast then hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for my morning bj.

picked a girl named far. cut thing with long hair and nice small tits. went to the third floor for a very good bbbjcim. took about 20 minutes. 800 for the house and 200 for far. she did ask me to come back on friday morning for some more play.

horny[/quote]hey horndog, was in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] over the weekend (am 20 oct) looking for far as she sounded very good, but no far. went back the next day, still no far. took another lady instead, was ok but. any more description (age, height, face etc.) on far or any other recommendations thanks.

I will be flying through Bangkok on my way to Bali this Christmas season with a short layover of about 8 hours.

I will arrive late in the evening, almost morning, and would like to get as much party time as I can.

I have been to Bangkok before, but do not recall how much time I will need to leave airport, get to suk area, party my ass off as long as possible and then get back to the airport before my plane takes off in the early am. Last time I was there, I stayed for more than a glorious week. Ahhhhh.

Any suggestions as to how to do this best, even if going to some other place besides suk?

Maybe someone has done this before with some level of success?

Thank you

[QUOTE=JosephEdward;1340090]I will be flying through Bangkok on my way to Bali this Christmas season with a short layover of about 8 hours.I will arrive late in the evening, almost morning, and would like to get as much party time as I can.I have been to Bangkok before, but do not recall how much time I will need to leave airport, get to suk area, party my ass off as long as possible and then get back to the airport before my plane takes off in the early am. Thank you[/QUOTE]Said and reapeted often, anyhow it should take some 30' with motorway at those odd hours (midnight or so) to reach low Sukh. And about the same to go back to BKK.

Surely if you would be more precise on the hours you might get better help as at 7am the traffic can start to be busy in some portions of the motorway (even if mainly city inbound)

What do to in thouse hours is "up to you" but there is plenty of option as go-go bars are open till 2am to pick up for a ST or (relatively and maybe technically) LT. Even if at 2am a ST might mean. If you negotiate well a couple of pops and an extended stay of the girl till your time to head to BKK airport. Plenty on FL at Nana car Park on 24/7 and also alongside Sukhumvit.

[QUOTE=Gern;1339968]Any contact info for Nadia, BushWhack? Also, tell us about her body. You indicate it was not all that good. Can you be more specific? I love the details in your description of the sex, but if I am going to seek her out, I would like to know a few more details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Gern, I have her mobile but don't know if we pass these around in the forum? This is new to me (I'm not a full-fledged member, haven't figured how to pay and keep it from the wife just yet, so no PM either).

Nadia is not a classic beauty, but exotic looking as I describe, tits a bit small but I hardly noticed. Average height for a Thai girl, body proportionate. At one point as I was sitting on top of her I noticed she did not have much of a defined waist, maybe a bit chubby there? Not enough to bother me. I usually go for the world-class ass, but Nadia would not meet that requirement.

When you mentioned wanting someone for a few days it struck me Nadia is smart and clever, don't think you would tire of her very quickly, between blow jobs she would challenge your conversation skills!

[QUOTE=TConor;1339659]was that 1 or 2 pops?[/QUOTE]1 pop. Not that I felt deprived in any way. I had a great time with her and the pricing is all described clearly beforehand.

Met a chick OL yesterday. 30 looking for a 'good guy', Uni grad. So I give her my monger number and start getting texts. Turns out she is up for LT or ST, but doesn't take it in the ass, and is kind of pricey at 3000B ST. Anyone in town that wants the info pm me. Have 4 others I'm 'working with' on DIA, but this one's a straight up FL it would seem.

Josh

[QUOTE=Josh Inyu;1340420]Met a chick OL yesterday.[/QUOTE]OL? Can you translate that in non sms language?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1340496]OL? Can you translate that in non sms language?[/QUOTE]OL, Online?

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1340497]OL, Online?

LBM[/QUOTE]I think Nic was just joshin Josh Inyu. I think he's here mostly to annoy people and let everyone know that hes has too much money.

[QUOTE=BushWhack; 1340138]Gern, I have her mobile but don't know if we pass these around in the forum? This is new to me (I'm not a full-fledged member, haven't figured how to pay and keep it from the wife just yet, so no PM either).

Nadia is not a classic beauty, but exotic looking as I describe, tits a bit small but I hardly noticed. Average height for a Thai girl, body proportionate. At one point as I was sitting on top of her I noticed she did not have much of a defined waist, maybe a bit chubby there? Not enough to bother me. I usually go for the world-class ass, but Nadia would not meet that requirement.

When you mentioned wanting someone for a few days it struck me Nadia is smart and clever, don't think you would tire of her very quickly, between blow jobs she would challenge your conversation skills![/QUOTE]If she is who I think she is, you don't need a number, she is in the Nana Parking Lot virtually every night of the year. 'nuff said. Often wears outfits that make her look like a tennis player.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1340516]I think Nic was just joshin Josh Inyu. I think he's here mostly to annoy people and let everyone know that hes has too much money.[/QUOTE]C4T,

Thanks, I kind of thought that but I also thought if I responded with the answer that others here would think he is is out of touch and way too uptight having all that money and clothes and such?

LBM

Baccara and #287. Stopped in about 10:00pm. Lots of girls. Bought #287 a drink we were discussing the price for the night. 600 BF. 3000 ST and 5000 LT. I laughed at her and she just looked at me "what". She then asked what I would pay. She said it has been slow. I said 2000 LT and she jumped at it. Back a the hotel room by 11:00 pm. Nong (sp) gave a good shower and BBBJCIM. Then we watch some scary movie which had us holding each other very tight in bed. Soon it was time for round two. CG, RCG, finish by DG. Shower #2 was over and time for a nap. Woke up at 7:30am with my hard dick poking her in the ass. She said no ass fuck. So other BBBJCIM then shower and took her down to the taxi. Gave her 2500 for a good time. She asked me to come in and see her before I leave later this week.

This is the third girl I have had back at the hotel and they ask the girl to leave their I'd but never called up to the room when they leave and pick up their I'd's. I will post a report in the hotel forum later.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1340516]I think Nic was just joshin Josh Inyu. I think he's here mostly to annoy people and let everyone know that hes has too much money.[/QUOTE]I genuinely did not know what OL was.

And before you insinuate what I am here for, contribute to ISG as much as I have the last decade then I may take you seriously. As for the Money comment, well, you clearly talked out of your ass there since you don't know me.

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1340603]Baccara and #287. Stopped in about 10:00pm. Lots of girls. Bought #287 a drink we were discussing the price for the night. 600 BF. 3000 ST and 5000 LT. I laughed at her and she just looked at me "what". She then asked what I would pay. She said it has been slow. I said 2000 LT and she jumped at it. Back a the hotel room by 11:00 pm. Nong (sp) gave a good shower and BBBJCIM. Then we watch some scary movie which had us holding each other very tight in bed. Soon it was time for round two. CG, RCG, finish by DG. Shower #2 was over and time for a nap. Woke up at 7:30am with my hard dick poking her in the ass. She said no ass fuck. So other BBBJCIM then shower and took her down to the taxi. Gave her 2500 for a good time. She asked me to come in and see her before I leave later this week.[/quote]Great Report! SO I guess there are deals to be had at Baccara when the Jappos aren't around. Last girl I took from Baccara (3kLT) was a total DFF.

[quote]This is the third girl I have had back at the hotel and they ask the girl to leave their I'd but never called up to the room when they leave and pick up their I'd's. I will post a report in the hotel forum later.[/QUOTE]Yep, they're supposed to call you before giving the girl back her I'd to ensure your Safety.

Good report

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1340629]Great Report! SO I guess there are deals to be had at Baccara when the Jappos aren't around. Last girl I took from Baccara (3kLT) was a total DFF.

Yep, they're supposed to call you before giving the girl back her I'd to ensure your Safety.

Good report[/QUOTE]Nic,

I was there about the same time. Upstairs was packed with Japanese / Korean / Whatever. Too many girls there now with bad tit jobs. Sailor Moon hairstyles, schoolgirl outfits, trance music are made to order for that audience. I think the place is in a down phase for the last few years.

Josh

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1340639]Yeah, with 4000 plus posts I think I have some idea who you are. As you said to The Pro, your a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]I did not know either what OL was. So thanks to NF for asking. He took the flames, not me.

Seems like having many posts is now considered as a bad thing. Bashing people who have contributed most to the forum is a cheap game from those who can only post speculative comments on others' characters.

But frankly, I don't think NF, neither me, care about what your insults, and guesses about who we are! So continue your speculations if that's what turns you on!

Will be next few nights in BKK, looking for a wingman to explore NEP / Rainbow, Soi Cowboy.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1340639]Yeah, with 4000 plus posts I think I have some idea who you are. As you said to The Pro, your a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]I am always amazed by the amount of bravado generated by a keyboard.

Okay: This will highly amuse any reader. I was on this website 4 years ago during a wonderful trip to Ecuador, when I wrote a "Report of Distinction" comparing the wonderful clubs of Quito. User name then was Newbie007. Those were wild times for me, and wonderful. A whole new world opened up. Have not done anything remotely like that since then.

I am traveling to Bangkok on a cruise, and will be there two days, in early April of 2013.

Get this: I am going with my Mother!

Nevertheless, I would like to investigate how to hook up with a gorgeous and friendly companion, for a "GFE" for a couple of days. I have no idea how I will sell this to my 81-year old mother yet. She is quite young at heart, and indeed, as a widow whose husband had no libido for years, she still yearns for a life of passion. Some people never get old. Their body just falls apart.

First, is this the correct forum to ask the following questions:

1. Any advice on how to carefully research a GFE for a couple of days in Bangkok? This maneuver must be orchestrated with great care. Indeed, I would like to find someone who is intelligent and who might even be able to act as a local guide of sorts. I do, however, insist on a gorgeous creature who oozes sexuality. What happens will be determined by the unfolding Tao. As many recognize, there is much benefit in having a real intellectual connection with a friendly stranger in a foreign land.

2. How to find such a young lady?

3. How much should I expect to reasonably pay for two days of GFE? In dollar equivalents?

4. You may laugh and chuckle privately, but please don't belittle me. I am using this trip as a scouting opportunity. I have to go to Bangkok on this cruise in any event. With my mother- and I want to get the lay of the land. I will likely return under different circumstances. I think I may also be stopping elsewhere in Thailand. I will need to check.

5. For anyone interested, the trip starts in Bejing, and then goes to Hong Kong, then Vietnam, and then winds its way around to Thailand. I plan to have a lot of fun, and to take care of Mother along the way. Since I have so much lead time, I can carefully plan and gather up the collective wisdom of the sages in this group.

Many thanks,

Tinamou

[QUOTE=Tinamou; 1340780]Okay: This will highly amuse any reader. I was on this website 4 years ago during a wonderful trip to Ecuador, when I wrote a "Report of Distinction" comparing the wonderful clubs of Quito. User name then was Newbie007. Those were wild times for me, and wonderful. A whole new world opened up. Have not done anything remotely like that since then.

I am traveling to Bangkok on a cruise, and will be there two days, in early April of 2013.

Many thanks,

Tinamou[/QUOTE]Sounds like an awesome time, I'd like to suggest you go on a website and make a connection with a lady or multiple ladies until you find one you have a connection with. This should be good and there are many websites such as DIA, and others.

This is Bangkok, you can get any kind of action you desire, however the areas you'll have to visit may not be suitable for Mom. Just saying, Therefore, try an internet dating site and this will allow you time to make some sort of connection.

Don't worry, all girls will do it, some quicker than others, However if you're nice and present your self in an attractive way, you'll have the time of your life. With or with out Mom.

And DIA would be? I've searched here and on Google and found nothing. Of all the Thai dating sites I know of, the women almost universally state that they're not looking for tourists on holiday to hook up with.

[QUOTE=Monte3; 1340823]Sounds like an awesome time, I'd like to suggest you go on a website and make a connection with a lady or multiple ladies until you find one you have a connection with. This should be good and there are many websites such as DIA, and others.

This is Bangkok, you can get any kind of action you desire, however the areas you'll have to visit may not be suitable for Mom. Just saying, Therefore, try an internet dating site and this will allow you time to make some sort of connection.

Don't worry, all girls will do it, some quicker than others, However if you're nice and present your self in an attractive way, you'll have the time of your life. With or with out Mom.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1340840]And DIA would be? I've searched here and on Google and found nothing.[/QUOTE]You have not searched well.

Go to the abbreviation sector and you will see what DIA means

There are so many LB on it, I thought it meant, DIA= Dick in Ass.

[QUOTE=Tinamou; 1340780]Okay: This will highly amuse any reader. I was on this website 4 years ago during a wonderful trip to Ecuador, when I wrote a "Report of Distinction" comparing the wonderful clubs of Quito. User name then was Newbie007. Those were wild times for me, and wonderful. A whole new world opened up. Have not done anything remotely like that since then.

I am traveling to Bangkok on a cruise, and will be there two days, in early April of 2013.

Get this: I am going with my Mother!

Nevertheless, I would like to investigate how to hook up with a gorgeous and friendly companion, for a "GFE" for a couple of days. I have no idea how I will sell this to my 81-year old mother yet. She is quite young at heart, and indeed, as a widow whose husband had no libido for years, she still yearns for a life of passion. Some people never get old. Their body just falls apart.

First, is this the correct forum to ask the following questions:

1. Any advice on how to carefully research a GFE for a couple of days in Bangkok? This maneuver must be orchestrated with great care. Indeed, I would like to find someone who is intelligent and who might even be able to act as a local guide of sorts. I do, however, insist on a gorgeous creature who oozes sexuality. What happens will be determined by the unfolding Tao. As many recognize, there is much benefit in having a real intellectual connection with a friendly stranger in a foreign land.

2. How to find such a young lady?

3. How much should I expect to reasonably pay for two days of GFE? In dollar equivalents?

4. You may laugh and chuckle privately, but please don't belittle me. I am using this trip as a scouting opportunity. I have to go to Bangkok on this cruise in any event. With my mother- and I want to get the lay of the land. I will likely return under different circumstances. I think I may also be stopping elsewhere in Thailand. I will need to check.

5. For anyone interested, the trip starts in Bejing, and then goes to Hong Kong, then Vietnam, and then winds its way around to Thailand. I plan to have a lot of fun, and to take care of Mother along the way. Since I have so much lead time, I can carefully plan and gather up the collective wisdom of the sages in this group.

Many thanks,

Tinamou[/QUOTE]I never understand how anyone on here can recommend a particular lady or what you are asking for. You may be a total AH and slob as far I know.

You will have to come here and go to the spots suggested in the forum. It is not hard to find what you want, but I thnk it is in your interest and just do, to do the leg work to earn it.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1340840]And DIA would be? I've searched here and on Google and found nothing. Of all the Thai dating sites I know of, the women almost universally state that they're not looking for tourists on holiday to hook up with.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's what they write. Serious, not for fun, the list goes on. Positive code words / phrases. Can take care, generous, supportive. You have to read in between the lines a bit to find suitable leads. Don't spend a lot of time chatting, contact them just before or after you arrive. If you write saying "I'm here now lets meet for (blank)" you will get lucky eventually. If they give up their phone number quickly thats a good sign too. Meet them somewhere neutral, not your hotel.

Josh

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1340856]There are so many LB on it, I thought it meant, DIA= Dick in Ass.[/QUOTE]HAHAHAHAHAHAH I never use it, just hear everyone say they hooked up on it. I'll be lookn at them in a different light thats for sure.)

There are so many, Thai Love Links, HAHAHAH Too fucking funny!

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1340840]And DIA would be? I've searched here and on Google and found nothing. Of all the Thai dating sites I know of, the women almost universally state that they're not looking for tourists on holiday to hook up with.[/QUOTE]So what are you going to do? Stay in at night?

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1340516]I think Nic was just joshin Josh Inyu. I think he's here mostly to annoy people .[/QUOTE]LOL. Nic is, in his own words "a fucking idiot".

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1340840]And DIA would be? I've searched here and on Google and found nothing. Of all the Thai dating sites I know of, the women almost universally state that they're not looking for tourists on holiday to hook up with.[/QUOTE]Re-arrange these words Asia In Date.

99% of the men and women on these dating sites lie.

They say "no tourist, no sex talk, bad man stay away" etc. Get to know them and they will offer long time for 1500 baht. LOL.

I have done hundreds from the dating sites. But it gets boring doing all the same talking over and over again.

[QUOTE=Josh Inyu; 1340635]Nic,

I was there about the same time. Upstairs was packed with Japanese / Korean / Whatever. Too many girls there now with bad tit jobs. Sailor Moon hairstyles, schoolgirl outfits, trance music are made to order for that audience. I think the place is in a down phase for the last few years.

Josh[/QUOTE]I think you're right, it's in a down phase lately but a few months ago was booming full of Japanese everytime I went there.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1340857]I never understand how anyone on here can recommend a particular lady or what you are asking for. You may be a total AH and slob as far I know.

You will have to come here and go to the spots suggested in the forum. It is not hard to find what you want, but I thnk it is in your interest and just do, to do the leg work to earn it.[/QUOTE]You are correct, but given the situation, the two days. Whichever way it will not work out. He should be happy to go to an oily or soapie and enjoy two hours there. Or, at the best, take a girl for a ST from a gogo.

Period.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1340660]But frankly, I don't think NF, neither me, care about what your insults, and guesses about who we are! So continue your speculations if that's what turns you on![/QUOTE]I cannot agree more.

I was out there a few years back and now I am bringing some friends. Last time I hit the after school bar (BJ bar) on soi cowboy, a few bars in nana and went to the eden club as well. I want to do all these things again but I was wondering since the flood that happened if anything has changed or shut down? Also any suggestions of places I may have missed? I just want to get a basic itinerary of must do or cool places to go. The rest can be left up to the imagination and randomness. I also am going to be staying at the Amari residence near NaNA. I heard it was a nice place just on a side street. Any suggestions? Or dos or donts? Look forward to some feedback and as always. I will post a play by play when I get back down here!

Hi guys,

I can't get a clear answer on this one. Soprano went down for a long time first renovating, then post flood, then.

I dug up the band somewhere and found out through them it would still be reopening.

Anyone know if that's happened?

[QUOTE=Monte3; 1340823]Sounds like an awesome time, I'd like to suggest you go on a website and make a connection with a lady or multiple ladies until you find one you have a connection with. This should be good and there are many websites such as DIA, and others.

This is Bangkok, you can get any kind of action you desire, however the areas you'll have to visit may not be suitable for Mom. Just saying, Therefore, try an internet dating site and this will allow you time to make some sort of connection.

Don't worry, all girls will do it, some quicker than others, However if you're nice and present your self in an attractive way, you'll have the time of your life. With or with out Mom.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this polite report and information. Is DIA the best website? Are there others? I appreciate the civility. I will do some research.

there is only about a couple of weeks left before my 12 day trip to thailand starts! this is going to be my second trip there, the first time i was so overwhelmed with everything in bangkok that i didn't do half the stuff that i read about in this forum. can you believe i didn't even have a threesome when i was there? i will remedy that for sure this time!

well my plan of attack is to get two girls from one of the go-go bars in nana which specializes in lesbian shows who are into the idea and more importantly into each other and take them to my hotel. i will be sure to add some reports when i'm through. i want to thank everyone for the valuable information on this site, i will be sure to follow the footsteps of the more experienced members of this forum.

i am more interested in the upper scale massage joints in town, according to the posts la belle is the way to go i think. i will not be only focusing on the high end though, i am sure there are a few gems rep001tered here and there and my plan is to find them. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], eden and tuilp will be hit just cause its talked about so much that i have to check it out myself.

have fun out there guys and i will be joining your ranks soon.

[QUOTE=Tinamou;1341178]Is DIA the best website? Are there others? I appreciate the civility. I will do some research.[/QUOTE]You could try putting an ad on Craigslist Thailand (it is FREE!)

I have had a lot of success there.

Enjoy,

Hotman.

[QUOTE=George Sims;1341055]Also any suggestions of places I may have missed? I just want to get a basic itinerary of must do or cool places to go.[/QUOTE]Dr BJ's Salon Soi 7/1.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Tinamou; 1340780]1. Any advice on how to carefully research a GFE for a couple of days in Bangkok? This maneuver must be orchestrated with great care. Indeed, I would like to find someone who is intelligent and who might even be able to act as a local guide of sorts. I do, however, insist on a gorgeous creature who oozes sexuality. What happens will be determined by the unfolding Tao. As many recognize, there is much benefit in having a real intellectual connection with a friendly stranger in a foreign land.

2. How to find such a young lady?[/QUOTE]If I were in your shoes I would check out the soapies or massage parlors and book a lady through them. Instead of just reading this Bangkok thread, you should check out these other 3 threads on ISG:

1. Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!

2. Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-TULIP-ONLY!

3. Bangkok Massage Parlors. ANNIES ONLY!

Punters will recommend quality ladies on those threads. The websites of the various massage parlors can also help you make a decision. Mango is one I check out often. Some websites mention whether a girl gives a good GFE (though this really depends on your chemistry and isn't something you can objectively measure). Annie's website in particular mentions which girls are good for a "long time" experience. It mentions that some girls just want to stay in all the time. I take it that those girls aren't up for really showing you the town and having fun outside your room. I'd avoid them since you're looking for a guide.

One advantage of going through mps and soapies is that you're far less likely to be ripped off. You'll pay more than some girl from the Nana parking lot, but you won't have to worry about keeping an eye on your possessions.

I'd recommend against booking a girl for long term before you even meet her. You should meet the girl, see if you "click" and if you do then book her for a day or 2. It's impossible to tell if you have chemistry just by looking at her on a website. If you don't "click" with her, then have a plan B ready.

Also, I'd do most of your research a month or 2 before you arrive. Girls frequently come and go at these places so planning too far in advance might not be wise.

Last time, I was a bit skeptical about going to the GoGos as I don't drink, but a few kind ones here told me not to bother. So here I was eager to dip in, but guess what, as I landed, I only managed to keep myself to the comfort zone of the clubs. Not sure if it's the casual atmosphere or what (I do like the bands in Climax though, they do play some decent 80's and early 90's rock sometimes) somehow I get drawn to these places. I justified to myself that I would go the GoGos once I am done with the talent in Climax (would I ever be able to, hehe).

Anyway my FR (unfortunately it was just a short 3N stint only) is still limited to experiences of the street and Climax. This time stayed at the Grand President instead of the President Palace as I could get a Jr. Suite at less than 100$. The 2 rooms were big but clearly getting old. The only good thing is the security not only collects the girls pass but calls you in the morning when she leaves. At Grand Palace (actually a better accommodation) they collected it from her but never called back the room to check. From the forums I understand that it is usually a practice to call back the room.

N1: The Runner and the S / He:

Ventured out at 10:00PM. That's too early for Climax, so walked towards Terminal 21 building. I did see some good talent on that way in my last trip. Saw a cute girl near the ATMs after Thermae towards the Terminal. At first I hesitated a bit as she looked pretty young. Was quoted 3K LT and wanted the money first (I mean in the room and gave me that 'give it or f* off' look). I get that a lot being an Indian, as my brothers have built quite a reputation for us everywhere; it is not going to be easy undoing it, if at all. I agreed as she was quite a cutie and I was just on a very short trip to give her a pass (sorry guys for paying a bit more than usual, never mind I believe its 'Indians only' price, it still negotiable for you most of you guys). Off we went to the hotel and the usual routine of shower, DFK and, she was very tight and a bit raw on the skills as expected normally for a very young girl. May be more exposure to my brothers here would make her the complete woman. Anyway after a pop I suggested (stupid of me as I realized later) we go to Climax and listen to some music. After an hour and a few drinks at Climax, she got a call and was struggling to talk due to the loud music, I suggested she go out and talk. And THAT was very smart to say the least. She went out talking and never returned. Hmmm that's a good run. Many of the mistakes, first I insisted that we go the club while she wanted just to rest in the room, I insisted she pick up her card at the hotel security while she said it's ok as we would anyway be returning back to the hotel, I suggested that she go out to talk while she said it's not important to take the call in the first place and all these after I actually paid the money first. So lesson learnt, when things are going in favor, keep your fu*ing brains and big bro in your pants and never ever pretend to be extra nice.

It was just 12:00AM when she made the run, at first it pissed me off but I remember the wise men of this forum saying, when such things happen just take it easy and move on. So I decided to stick to the club and started looking at couple of ladies who actually joined our table earlier. One of them was good, I mean reeeel good. I hesitated a bit as she saw me with the other babe for a long time. So went around in the club, found one very attractive and fun type but later realized that she was already with someone. Finally a couple of hours later came back and approached the previous one. After an initial bit of hesitation things started moving. Went back to the hotel, and had a great session. However as I got a closer look, I couldn't stop feeling she was post operative- I am very poor at it. Her features are pretty sharp, a bit masculine body and the whole time she was actually covering her '*' but she was hot (they all are, aren't they) and her voice was very normal.

I don't know how you guys manage to differentiate. I have absolutely nothing against them (as long you have fun doesn't matter) , I do get attracted to them a lot, except, that thing between the legs keeps me away, hehe, anyway it's just that I prefer normal woman. In fact this babe was taken very quickly by others on the next couple of nights that I was at the club. Not a big deal as I have actually enjoyed a lot with her but just wondering how the experienced seniors differentiate if the voice doesn't help to recognize or actually was I completely wrong about her?

To be contd.

n2: the smallest.

next night i was determined to take the babe i missed the earlier night. found her within a few minutes after entering the club and approached her (calls herself pay). she turned to be absolute fun and i almost felt like picking her up and get to the room asap and f* the hell out of her. it all felt great as i planned to pick her up, got her just within minutes of making it there and she turned to be just great fun. back at the hotel i was so pumped by that time, we didn't bother to take a shower, just pants down, cap on and f*ed like there's no tomorrow (all this while with her tops on). later during shower, i saw probably the worst ever tits you can find anywhere- probably like an 80 year old's they have in award winning photographs. she saw my expression (i didn't say anything but i couldn't hide it even though i am normally nice to them) and kept apologizing for having such bad tits. i wondered if i took shower before the sex as always, could i? what i can guarantee is that it can lower the completely raised big bro of the greatest stud on earth to nothing in a fraction of a second. even today i wonder how a girl has a very tight body, great ass and such abysmal, ha (and she was 27 as i checked her card). anyway she stayed on as everything about her except them is just great. i could have taken for many nights but.

in the morning upon asking her, learnt that he spent a lot of time with her but finally didn't take her. i distinctively recalled that as i was looking at this girl on the previous night, the guy at one time was pulling her t-shirt a bit and peeking in. i was a bit surprised, as while it is very normal to feel a lot during the decision phase as we dance together, it is not really normal to pull the t-shirt away and directly peek into every girl's shirts. i am sure this brother doesn't do that too, but thinking back, i appreciated his skills for identifying the lemon. i felt her a lot during the dance but i could make out nothing. ha, another lesson learnt.

what happens when you visit the same place every day:

another very interesting thing is that after i picked this girl i met an old friend, so i moved to his table just talking to him and i told her that i would be back. almost half hour later when i got back, guess what she was flanked by (just by chance) not one but two of my previous girls. on the right was the girl from the previous night and on the left was the girl from my previous trip. and all of them stepped ahead almost the same time and i just stood in my tracks, shocked and not knowing how to react. i am sure you guys face it many times, but for an indian, it is difficult to get one girl to step forward imagine if three does it and you know all of them. yup, i finally regrouped bought a couple of drinks to all, had a chat and gently excused myself with the girl to another table. but i didn't particularly like the way i reacted in the first few minutes, it was a bit odd. you must understand that i am just a novice still learning the ropes. so how do you react guys?

n3:the biggest (i mean one of the)

the final night i went in with all the wisdom that i acquired over the previous nights. did so much screening that i couldn't pick anyone till 3:00am (that's 5 hours of hunting) and obviously my min. criteria started falling off. finally picked one (kim) , she had a pair of knockers (i always prefer small but petite ones rather than oversized knockers). i was probably overcompensating for the lack of it the previous night, hehe. at around 5:00am (closing time) walked over to the street for some grub and off to the hotel. man, she had 2 times the size of knockers that i imagined with clothes on and all the time i felt that i was actually squeezing on two hard silicone spheres rather than a girl's. thankfully she had a great body though and it all ended as intended.

that's it guys. although it was very short trip, a lot of learning to improve future pickings. hope to squeeze in a longer trip soon.

[QUOTE=Desp Xpat;1341660]She went out talking and never returned. Hmmm that's a good run. Many of the mistakes, first I insisted that we go the club while she wanted just to rest in the room, I insisted she pick up her card at the hotel security while she said it's ok as we would anyway be returning back to the hotel, I suggested that she go out to talk while she said it's not important to take the call in the first place and all these after I actually paid the money first. So lesson learnt, when things are going in favor, keep your fu*ing brains and big bro in your pants and never ever pretend to be extra nice.[/quote]The way I see it, she wanted to stay but you gave her 4 reasons / signals that she could go (and she did). You cannot blame her at all here.

[QUOTE=Desp Xpat;1341660]I couldn't stop feeling she was post operative- I am very poor at it. Her features are pretty sharp, a bit masculine body and the whole time she was actually covering her '*' but she was hot (they all are, aren't they) and her voice was very normal.[/QUOTE]Many ladies have masculine features and some even have deep voices. Usually, when in doubt, ask him / her: turns out 99% of the time they will tell you.

[QUOTE=Desp Xpat;1341661]Another very interesting thing is that after I picked this girl I met an old friend, so I moved to his table just talking to him and I told her that I would be back. Almost half hour later when I got back, guess what she was flanked by (just by chance) not one but two of my previous girls. On the right was the girl from the previous night and on the left was the girl from my previous trip. And all of them stepped ahead almost the same time and I just stood in my tracks, shocked and not knowing how to react. I am sure you guys face it many times, but for an Indian, it is difficult to get one girl to step forward imagine if three does it and you know all of them. Yup, I finally regrouped bought a couple of drinks to all, had a chat and gently excused myself with the girl to another table. But I didn't particularly like the way I reacted in the first few minutes, it was a bit odd. You must understand that I am just a novice still learning the ropes. So how do you react guys?[/QUOTE]You're going to get mixed opinions here, I guarantee you.

My advice: You should not give a shit and go directly for what you want, especially as a tourist, you have no time to waste worrying about the ladies and their "Face" game.

However, It all depends also on if you are or want to be a regular at that place, then it is wise to do what you did and buy drinks so the girls don't lose face. Joke and tell them you are a butterfly (man who sleeps around) and they may even recommend you to their friends / talk nicely about you.

If you completely ignore them and one day go to see their friend, they may put on a not so good word about you (true or not) so that the friend has second thoughts about you.

It's all a game, these girls are players so you need to play too. There is no right or wrong answer, everyone has different goals, the important is to Have fun and enjoy your purchase. At the end of the day, they are not your girlfriends, they are paid pussies.

[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1341660].

I don't know how you guys manage to differentiate. I have absolutely nothing against them (as long you have fun doesn't matter) , I do get attracted to them a lot, except, that thing between the legs keeps me away, hehe, anyway it's just that I prefer normal woman. In fact this babe was taken very quickly by others on the next couple of nights that I was at the club. Not a big deal as I have actually enjoyed a lot with her but just wondering how the experienced seniors differentiate if the voice doesn't help to recognize or actually was I completely wrong about her?

To be contd.[/QUOTE]The only way the experienced seniors are able to differentiate is by them experiencing it first hand. So don't worry. Even if she was post just chalk it up to an adventurous outing. As Nic said some women are more masculine, but they are still women.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1341727]You're going to get mixed opinions here, I guarantee you.

Thank you very much Nic. You are right, I did feel I was the one who screwed it up in the first place, that's why I took it as lesson learnt (I m referring to the runner comment). And just as you mentioned one of the girls did call me butterfly when she saw me with different girls on different dates in the same club, hehe. You are right on the money man.

As per the game, presently I am at a disadvantage as they are seasoned and I am just a novice. Hope to improve the odds with more experince and advise on this forum.

[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1341905]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1341727]As per the game, presently I am at a disadvantage as they are seasoned and I am just a novice. Hope to improve the odds with more experince and advise on this forum.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about it too much, we all made mistakes and it's the best / fastest way to learn. Many Brothers here will give you different advice and as we are dealing with girls, you need to find which ones work best for you. What works for one guy may not work for everyone.

The most important thing: have fun, don't let a couple of setbacks ruin your holiday.

Now I would like to address the first paragraph of your report: you making playful comments about your being "Indian", it is true Thailand is one of the most racist countries in the world, they discriminate by color (they hate each other more than they hate Indians I think). Don't let that spoil your fun, while some establishments will not allow you entry or some girls will not want to go with you, stick with places and girls you know are ok with diversity. Keep having fun bro, it's what this game is about.

Nic and Desp Xpat,

When Nic said that we all make mistakes and that's how we learn, it reminded me of my first trip to Bangkok. It was about 12 years ago and I was staying at the JW Marriott on Sukhumvit. I just arrived around midnight and headed for Nana. I went through several bars, but the girls just didn't appeal to me. Finally, I went to one on the lower level, I think it was called Obsession. The girls in this bar were really good-looking. There was one who had a beautiful face and a great body. She was also dressed very nicely. I made a deal wtih her and took her back to the hotel. She asked for payment up-front of 1, 500 baht and I gave it to her. I thought that was the standard routine. We jumped into the shower, and that's when I found out that "she" was a "he." Boy, was I burned up! I compalined about the lack of full disclosure and demanded my money back. He wouldn't give it to me, and I didn't want to resort to violence, so I just let him go. I did learn that that bar had only ladyboys, so that was something he told me, saying that I should have known. I'm still astounded at how beautiful the ladyboys were, much better looking than most of the girls I saw that night. What a shame they weren't girls!

In any case, I did learn quickly. After that incident, I became an expert in detecting ladyboys. Also, I learned never to pay upfront. I was 1, 500 baht poorer, but I was richer in knowledge and experience. Fortunately, I didn't let the experience bother me after that. I had a great time on that trip. I also met lots of beautiful girls and some of them were almost as pretty as the ladyboy.

Since that first trip, I've had great experiences and lots of good luck, but I'll never forget that first time.

Canyon.

P. S. Nic, I'll be in Bangkok on November 8. Please send me a PM with your phone number, and pehaps we can get together for lunch or dinner. Also, let me know in the PM, your top three current girls, so I can sample them. Most of my favorites have now retired, so I'm looking for new ones.

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1342143]Nic and Desp Xpat,

When Nic said that we all make mistakes and that's how we learn, it reminded me of my first trip to Bangkok. It was about 12 years ago and I was staying at the JW Marriott on Sukhumvit. I just arrived around midnight and headed for Nana. I went through several bars, but the girls just didn't appeal to me. Finally, I went to one on the lower level, I think it was called Obsession. The girls in this bar were really good-looking. There was one who had a beautiful face and a great body. She was also dressed very nicely. I made a deal wtih her and took her back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]I really prefer to take girls from a fully nude bar like Suzie Wong or Sheba, or very scantily clad, since there are no surprises (especially not of the dick variety). I already recommended #24 at Annies, and Nic agrees. I recall you like tall models (and same girl as me). Can't vouch for her English speaking abilities though. Someone else probably can. She won't be cheap for outcall but I'm sure that won't worry you too much. Originally I was expecting to fly BKK 1st Nov but looks like I'll be stuck OS till Dec as additional client work assignments have come up. Yes you do know me.

[url]http://www.anniesbangkok.com/images/an%20pics/new18-24/120727_aor_0001_resize.JPG[/url]
Book ahead essential.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1342152]I really prefer to take girls from a fully nude bar like Suzie Wong or Sheba, or very scantily clad, since there are no surprises (especially not of the dick variety). I already recommended #24 at Annies, and Nic agrees.[/QUOTE]Yes I fully Agree. I went to Annies to try #24 following Syzygies Recommendation and was glad I did.

My second would be Kaew (a fav of Syzygies too).

Both cases you need to book ahead.

8th November I will be on a Mission outside Thailand so we won't be able to meet (too bad). Also, there are new tall girls at the LL if I am not mistaken, last time I went there were new young tall and cute girls. Giotto can confirm this of course.

Nic,

Thank you for the recommendations. Where does Kaew work?

I'm sorry we won't be able to get together.

Canyon

Syzygies,

Thank you for the recommendation. #24 is stunning. Is her service as good as her looks?

Canyon.

P. S. Please PM me and remind me where we met before.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter;1340840]And DIA would be? I've searched here and on Google and found nothing. Of all the Thai dating sites I know of, the women almost universally state that they're not looking for tourists on holiday to hook up with.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I have used the website Tagged, successfully over the past 3 yrs. The great thing about it, is that is free. You just have to sort out the fakers and scammers, but there are plenty of genuine posters on there, that you can make a lot of pre trip contacts and dates.

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1342209]Syzygies,

Thank you for the recommendation. #24 is stunning. Is her service as good as her looks?

Canyon.

P. S. Please PM me and remind me where we met before.[/QUOTE]I have no PM facility. Can't be bothered answering lots of questions that should be asked of the forum. I have changed handle but you should be able to guess. Probably met at LL. We both liked to DateY and I speak Thai.

Its very hard to promise about service, since as you know, it depends on chemistry, and whether the girl is expert just the way you like it. While Gaew is incredibly hot looking, I think Aor of Annies is a better bet for a match up. I don't know who is best for English conversation. Neither would compete with the former Y in that area.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3021-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-ANNIES-ONLY!&p=1335768&viewfull=1#post1335768[/url]

Some other nice looking girls: Yok at Amsterdam (sorry don't know her badge number), Kristen (Angel)

Has anybody been to these massage parlours,

1) Thonglor Massage on SOI24. Girl VIN.

2) Bangkok Rose Massage on SOI24.

3) Emmanuelle. Huay Kwang.

I am askking for information as I plan to visit all these during my upcoming trip.

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1342208]Nic,

Thank you for the recommendations. Where does Kaew work?

I'm sorry we won't be able to get together.

Canyon[/QUOTE]She works at PINK Massage right next to EZ & Mango. She is well worth the visit but better book as she is extremely popular.

[url]http://pinkmassage2.com/[/url] (she's the girl on the right in the homepage)

Some time ago I had fun at the Beer Garden, so I went back. The live band no longer plays. The quality of the ladies has gone way down. The occasional is now asking for 25 for ST! (Lady, you have a kid, so I can't justify paying 25 for ST. But I didn't say that and I just wished her luck instead.) While looking for a live band, I wandered to the Bangkok Beat on soi 7. 1. It's got live music and some working girls. Actually while some girls pretended that they are only there for fun, it's pretty obvious they will do ST for $$.

The sidewalk at Starbucks near soi 3 is full of street walkers as usual. Some good ones. Nana parking lot is just like before. Be patience and the good looking ones will eventually pass by.

BKK does not disappoint.

Spaceman

I agree with your assessment of the quality of the girls at the Beer Garden. I was there last Tuesday night from 11. Midnight. I enjoyed a few beers and good conversations with other solo travelers, but I didn't see any girls I would take back. Plenty of girls, to be sure, but none of them attractive. I saw better looking girls at the beer bars on Soi 4 right outside the entrance to the gogo bar complex in Nana Plaza.

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1342486]Some time ago I had fun at the Beer Garden, so I went back. The live band no longer plays. The quality of the ladies has gone way down. The occasional is now asking for 25 for ST! (Lady, you have a kid, so I can't justify paying 25 for ST. But I didn't say that and I just wished her luck instead.) While looking for a live band, I wandered to the Bangkok Beat on soi 7. 1. It's got live music and some working girls. Actually while some girls pretended that they are only there for fun, it's pretty obvious they will do ST for $$.

The sidewalk at Starbucks near soi 3 is full of street walkers as usual. Some good ones. Nana parking lot is just like before. Be patience and the good looking ones will eventually pass by.

BKK does not disappoint.

Spaceman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1342486]Some time ago I had fun at the Beer Garden, so I went back. The occasional is now asking for 25 for ST! (Lady, you have a kid, so I can't justify paying 25 for ST.

BKK does not disappoint. Spaceman[/QUOTE]Paying 25 what? Beers?

I agree in Bangkok Beat: nice place where you can find different opportunities.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1342493]Paying 25 what? Beers?

I agree in Bangkok Beat: nice place where you can find different opportunities.[/QUOTE]Was in the Beat last night, decent crowd. Any man fishing would have been able to catch his limit. I ran into a girl I met sometime last year, We ended up having sex on her back patio at 4 am.

We were finishing a beer looking at the night sky, I had already taken her dress off, rubbing her pussy, she stood up, and pushed her ass into my crotch, I slipped her little panties aside and lifted her leg enough to allow me access and started pounding. We reversed and I lifted her up to the basin edge and fucked her from the front until I was about to shoot off. Then in on the bed for the finish. She was good about letting me cum in her mouth, of course I was ok with that!

She has a place up off of Suk 48. I gave her 2000 B plus the drinks. All in all a good night.

BTW the Russian Blonde was sitting next to the Subway as usual.

[QUOTE=Monte3;1342513]snip - We ended up having sex on her back patio at 4 am. -snip -[/QUOTE]Did you have any apprehension about going to her place instead of yours? Sounds like you picked a good one but it could have turned out differently.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1342528]Did you have any apprehension about going to her place instead of yours? Sounds like you picked a good one but it could have turned out differently.[/QUOTE]This girl and I have history together, so I was comfortable with it. Rarely am I out that I don't meet one or two that I have hooked up with.

Normally I won't go with a girl more than a couple of times, this girl and I whether we spend the night or not always have fun drinking and dancing. We've met up in various clubs in the area.

[QUOTE=Monte3; 1342513]Was in the Beat last night, decent crowd. Any man fishing would have been able to catch his limit. I ran into a girl I met sometime last year,

She has a place up off of Suk 48. I gave her 2000 B plus the drinks. All in all a good night. BTW the Russian Blonde was sitting next to the Subway as usual.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Thermae and when I could, matter having read here of the girls attitude there I thought not worth going. I stead a GF introduced me to BB (I mean, Bangkok Beat, what you dirty minds were thinking about?) and was delighted of the discovery. Never picked up from there as most of the times I was not alone but with a girl. Nevertheless I could spot talents, in the business and not in the business (differentiating from those pretending not to be in the business). Also girls only willing to party and have fun (old not believe when, in two different nights, two girls even paid me drinks when dancing with them, and I am far, real far from being Brad Pitt, maybe I am just hansumman).

So the place has a value. And with the right band the music is great too.

Happy to read the Russian blond keeps her position. She is an icon and Soi 7/1 can't be without her sitting there checking who gets in the Soi.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1342541]I have never been to Thermae and when I could, matter having read here of the girls attitude there I thought not worth going. I stead a GF introduced me to BB (I mean, Bangkok Beat, what you dirty minds were thinking about?) and was delighted of the discovery. Never picked up from there as most of the times I was not alone but with a girl. Nevertheless I could spot talents, in the business and not in the business (differentiating from those pretending not to be in the business). Also girls only willing to party and have fun (old not believe when, in two different nights, two girls even paid me drinks when dancing with them, and I am far, real far from being Brad Pitt, maybe I am just hansumman).

So the place has a value. And with the right band the music is great too.

Happy to read the Russian blond keeps her position. She is an icon and Soi 7/1 can't be without her sitting there checking who gets in the Soi.[/QUOTE]I have seen her there, can anyone tell me more about her?

Syzgies,

I know who you are now. You are the Boswell of Bangkok! You score at the top when it comes to knowledge of Bangkok establishments and the ladies therein. I didn't recognize your new handle. How come you changed it? Thank you for the recommendation. How often do you get to Bangkok? I'll be there from November 8-16.

Canyon

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1342528]Did you have any apprehension about going to her place instead of yours? Sounds like you picked a good one but it could have turned out differently.[/QUOTE]How could it have turned out differently? I have never had a problem going to a chick's place. As a matter of fact, when I meet them I ask about going to their place. Some times it's okay. Sometimes it's "no air conditioner; only fan". Most of the time I get the room mate or multiple girls in their room sleep story. I tell them that I don't care and that I actually like a lot of girls. If they insist on my place then I tell them that my girlfriend is at my place sleeping or that she comes home from work at a certain time, but she likes ladies too so I think it will be okay. They are usually fine with it, then when I open the door I act like I'm saying something to my girlfriend and I turn on the light and when they see nobody is there they know I am full of shit.

I have been in Bangkok for a few weeks now on my first trip. Two chance encounters:

1. While walking on Soi 7 with a girl from the Beer Garden, I saw across the street a couple from my home town, which is very small, about 12, 000 people. Then I remembered that they usually travel to Southeast Asia about this time every year. I just kept holding onto my temporary girlfriend's hand like we were old buddies and waved at them.

2. While shopping (alone) in The Mall Bangkapi I ran into one of my favorite massage grils. We gave each other a kiss on the cheek and chatted for a moment, then went our own ways. This mall is very far from Sukhumvit, but is near where a lot of the girls live (I think).

-zing

[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1342231]FWIW, I have used the website Tagged, successfully over the past 3 yrs. The great thing about it, is that is free. You just have to sort out the fakers and scammers, but there are plenty of genuine posters on there, that you can make a lot of pre trip contacts and dates.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Tagged is good, you find a lot of the same girls on the free and pay sites. Might as well just save money and sign up for the free ones. I heard Baddoo is good to, but you have to post your pics to see theirs. Might check it out.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1342573]How could it have turned out differently? I have never had a problem going to a chick's place. -snip -[/QUOTE]Yup and I bet that would almost always be the case. I had a close call once, not in Thailand though, but I'm not sure that matters and I guess I'm paranoid now. She suggested her place and it seemed like a good option at the time. In the middle of our session this huge fucking guy 20 years younger than me came into the house, the room, and fortunately, simply said "you need to leave".

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1;1342552]I have seen her there, can anyone tell me more about her?[/QUOTE]Take her and tell her you want to know her story instead of knowing her pussy. WG are used to this, as sometime it happens they have talkative customers. Now, seriously speaking, I don't have a clue as in BKK I prefer the local providers, but she is there all the time. Part of the furniture.

Read your story and could just see it happen! What the hell did you think? Were you shitting your pants. The worst I have had was a gf l had went to look through my phone when I was in the shower, saw some photo she didn't like and some MSG s, then took my shoes. Had to walk without shoes to nearest shopping centre to buy some before going to work. Lucky not raining.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1342937]Yup and I bet that would almost always be the case. I had a close call once, not in Thailand though, but I'm not sure that matters and I guess I'm paranoid now. She suggested her place and it seemed like a good option at the time. In the middle of our session this huge fucking guy 20 years younger than me came into the house, the room, and fortunately, simply said "you need to leave".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperRaven;1343022]Read your story and could just see it happen! What the hell did you think? Were you shitting your pants. The worst I have had was a gf l had went to look through my phone when I was in the shower, saw some photo she didn't like and some MSG s, then took my shoes. Had to walk without shoes to nearest shopping centre to buy some before going to work. Lucky not raining.[/QUOTE]Having your shoes taken away is a minor disturbance, since, as you did, you can just go down and buy some. But what about having your glasses stolen, especially when you are severely handicapped without them? Hopefully no WG will read this, it might give them some ideas.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1343027]Having your shoes taken away is a minor disturbance, since, as you did, you can just go down and buy some. But what about having your glasses stolen, especially when you are severely handicapped without them? Hopefully no WG will read this, it might give them some ideas.[/QUOTE]I suggest to carry a fake gold chain to distract their attention, just in case.

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1;1342552]I have seen her there, can anyone tell me more about her?[/QUOTE]Of all of the pussy in the world, much less Bangkok, and I bet there are at least 200 girls on Suk 7/1 in the evening, all of them willing to do anything! Why would you want to fuck that Russian chickNot slamming ya, just asking?

[QUOTE=Monte3;1343047]Of all of the pussy in the world, much less Bangkok, and I bet there are at least 200 girls on Suk 7/1 in the evening, all of them willing to do anything! Why would you want to fuck that Russian chickNot slamming ya, just asking?[/QUOTE]Why not fuck a Russian chick? But just curious to know if they are more expensive like they are in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1343027]Having your shoes taken away is a minor disturbance, since, as you did, you can just go down and buy some. But what about having your glasses stolen, especially when you are severely handicapped without them? Hopefully no WG will read this, it might give them some ideas.[/QUOTE]Well turning the tables around the other way, I once negociated a $50 date with a girl at a hotel in the states where we agreed to our act. I paid her the money since she seemed honest and on the up and up and I wanted to show I was trustable.

Well, right before we got started she began playing with her phone and insisted we allow her boyfriend listen in on speaker while we followed through with the date. I was not going to have this. The date went south with the boyfriend on the line. She would not give me back my monney back so I calmly reached for her prescription glasses and told her to leave my room, now, and when she is outside the hotel I will then give her glasses back. She took the bait.

I closed the door on her after she exited the rear door and I told her through the glass I would not give her her glasses back unless she gives me my money back. She threatened to go to the hotel front desk and clam all kinds of bad stuff. It was me calling her bluff against a pair of $100 glasses, plus the pain in the ass activities she had to jump through to get another pair. Needless to say we both lost. She did not get her glasses and I did not get any money back. Stalemate.

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1;1343063]Why not fuck a Russian chick? But just curious to know if they are more expensive like they are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Well you did say that you've seen her there. It's not like she's fresh and hot. Not very appealing IMO compared to all the Thai pussy available but if she looks good to you give her a go. If you do, please do report back here on how it was and how much she thought she was worth.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1343076]Well turning the tables around the other way, I once negociated a $50 date with a girl at a hotel in the states where we agreed to our act. I paid her the money since she seemed honest and on the up and up and I wanted to show I was trustable.

Well, right before we got started she began playing with her phone and insisted we allow her boyfriend listen in on speaker while we followed through with the date. I was not going to have this. The date went south with the boyfriend on the line. She would not give me back my monney back so I calmly reached for her prescription glasses and told her to leave my room, now, and when she is outside the hotel I will then give her glasses back. She took the bait.

I closed the door on her after she exited the rear door and I told her through the glass I would not give her her glasses back unless she gives me my money back. She threatened to go to the hotel front desk and clam all kinds of bad stuff. It was me calling her bluff against a pair of $100 glasses, plus the pain in the ass activities she had to jump through to get another pair. Needless to say we both lost. She did not get her glasses and I did not get any money back. Stalemate.[/QUOTE]My "glasses" story goes the opposite way: once walking in the infamous Paris "Bois de Boulogne", I was approached by a giant LB who took my glasses away form my nose. And started to run into the woods. Then he asked for 50 Euros to give them back. I am (partly) ashamed to admit that I paid and left as quickly as I could.

The suggestion to have a very visible fake goldchain available seems a wise one.

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1;1343063]Why not fuck a Russian chick? But just curious to know if they are more expensive like they are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Then ask her when you see her. I don't as I am not interested so it is useless to waste my time and her time just for the sake of the info, since we know that the first price quote is not the last one. The last one then means you take her if suitable or meeting yours.

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1;1343063]Why not fuck a Russian chick? But just curious to know if they are more expensive like they are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]If were to fuck one of those CIS girls, It would be one I see hanging around the Grace Hotel, They are younger, hotter. That is just my opinion.

Yesterday I was in one of the big department stores, struck up a conversation with a nice lady. It was interesting how she went to great lengths to keep me from looking at the ring on her finger. She was middle aged and Thai. I love it when I lean in close and whisper something a little risque, watching their little hands shake from nervousness.

I got her card and digits. Doubtful I'll report it as she has a very professional life.

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1;1343063]Why not fuck a Russian chick? But just curious to know if they are more expensive like they are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]This information is about 6 months old when I last visited BKK.

Most of them are Central Asians Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz and Georgians.

Street walkers on and around Sukhumvit generally cost the same I. E. BHT 1000-2000 ST. They are generally 3-4/10 and mostly past there sell by date. Some claim to be from Morocco and ask for BHT 2K-3K. Moroccans are hot favourite of Arabs. I cannot speak Arabic and as such cannot confirm if they are really from Morocco or not.

In Grace Hotel they may ask between BHT 3000 – 5000 ST. Quality is definitely better than street and almost all of them are Uzbeks or local Thais or rarely South American. Remember Grace Hotel is full of super rich Arabs.

In CM2 night club in Novotel in Silom they range from BHT 5000 to BHT 10000 LT. Quality is very good and mostly Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz, Mongolians, Turks and may be some Russians / Ukrainians. You may also find blacks and local Thais. In CM2 local Thais may ask for BHT 4k and my go for BHT 3K.

I think you can find them another club called 'Boss' or 'Bossy' with quality and rates comparable to CM2. I have never been there,

In Rajeah hotel on Soi 4 may cost BHT 2500. Quality is reasonable but you have to use their room in the hotel.

Please note that prices also depend upon time of the day and your bargaining skill and I must admit that I am not very good at that.

Why they cost more.

They are not as common as locals and generally people like what they do not have. You will notice most Europeans going after Thai girls particularly from Issan province (darker in colour) where as Thais going after fairer colour locals.

Warning.

CIS may ask for money up front and they are famous for converting LT to ST I. E. Leaving after two / three hours. So be careful when you negotiate the deal and clarify everything in job interview.

Therefore, best policy is not to pay upfront.

[QUOTE=Monte3;1343228]I got her card and digits. Doubtful I'll report it as she has a very professional life.[/QUOTE]You can still report without giving out details on how to track her. No need to go deep into the Penthouse Letters, but an intel on how it went and how it developed, would be nice to read to confirm there are opportunities to be taken out of the well hit path.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1343274]This information is about 6 months old when I last visited BKK.

Most of them are Central Asians Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz and Georgians.

Street walkers on and around Sukhumvit generally cost the same I. E. BHT 1000-2000 ST. They are generally 3-4/10 and mostly past there sell by date. Some claim to be from Morocco and ask for BHT 2K-3K. Moroccans are hot favourite of Arabs. I cannot speak Arabic and as such cannot confirm if they are really from Morocco or not.[/QUOTE]Should have tried talking to them in French!

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343293]Can you tell us where this road is? There is a good reason girls go the STREETwalker route to get customers, and I doubt its becoz they are hot.[/QUOTE]The road is called Sukhumvit. Last night I ran into a provider I've been with before, extremely good looking. She'd been working in Baccara but quit because she didn't like the mamasan and said that there was not enough business. There are a thousand reasons why girls choose to come work the street as opposed to a bar, usually none of them having to do with looks. You find stunner in bars, you find stunners out of bars, usually has little to do with venue or price, the price just changes depending on the venue. I have seen girls that go to Spassos or Q Bar and go for 3-5000 come to the Beergarden and go for 1. 5 or less, had absolutely nothing to do with how they looked and everything to do with time of night, number of customers, number of sponsors, number of drinks, I could go on.

If there is anything I have learned in this country is that amount of payment has virtually zilch to do with services rendered or quality of the provider.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1343288]Y No need to go deep into the Penthouse Letters, but an intel on how it went and how it developed, would be nice to read to confirm there are opportunities to be taken out of the well hit path.[/QUOTE]Peace and Amen to no need for Penthouse letters.

I don't need to hear about how wet she was, how much like velvet her labia felt or how engorged a writer's member was.

I want intel.

How was the venue, the mamasan, the price, the hassle and a rating of GFE.

God bless everyone who contributes, but, damn, let's keep the letters to a min (or not, this is just my humble opinion.)

[QUOTE=Global Surfer;1343274]In Rajeah hotel on Soi 4 may cost BHT 2500. Quality is reasonable but you have to use their room in the hotel.[/QUOTE]I've encountered those former-USSR gals, back when I lived in BKK, from time-to-time in the 7/11 or other business on Soi 4, and they all were hard as nails. Quick to fight with any and every person. They must have hard lives and how they ended up in BKK can't be a pretty story.

The counter girls at the 7/11 clearly hated them.

I'm just guessing, but the GFE for them is likely about a negative-10.

[QUOTE=BKK Rookie; 1343556]Peace and Amen to no need for Penthouse letters.

God bless everyone who contributes, but, damn, let's keep the letters to a min (or not, this is just my humble opinion.) [/QUOTE]I think we share the same opinion.

I've been out of mongering for 6 months. Yesterday I was dining very close to Nana. And felt the urge after dinner was over.

In Nana, I went to several bars but couldn't find anyone. It was getting close to 2AM, I moved to Cowboy. I barfined a beautiful girl from Shark (number 64 if I remember right) and took her to the short time hotel. After one minute of blow job she didn't want to do more. I stopped the session. If you can't suck cock for more than a minute, you shouldn't do this job. I got my barfine back from her (600 bhats).

I then barfined a beautiful girl from Baccara. I discussed the smoking for a while before barfining her, but it didn't think I had to talk prices as I've barfined many girls from Baccara. On the way to the hotel she met a friend and used her to translate because her english was poor. She asked for 4000 short time. I laughed. 3000 short time. I laughed. This is the first time ever I've seen a girl try to go that high.

I said I always pay 1500 but I can pay her 2000 this time. Looking annoyed, she said ok, but pay first. I said no way. I got my barfine back from her, and left.

I don't know if this is proof of lowering standards in gogos or if I was just unlucky. Anyway it shows that if you don't get basic service do not be ashamed to ask and get your money back.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343293]Can you tell us where this road is? There is a good reason girls go the STREETwalker route to get customers, and I doubt its becoz they are hot.[/QUOTE]Those who work on the road was a reference to street walkers. In particular around NEP & lower sukhumvit.

Are you saying there is only one reason why a street walker would prefer that work over working in, for example, a bar or gogo?

As another poster said, and I agree, there could be various reasons.

One of the most obvious would be so that they can have more independence, working their own hours & days, & choose their own customers.

As to how hot street walkers are, you will get various opinions depending on a guy's preferences, how many he has seen, where he saw them, who he is comparing them to, if he arrived after the stunners were already taken, etc.

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Dick Around.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouy8JChTjVk&NR=1&feature=fvwp[/url]

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1343655]I've been out of mongering for 6 months. Yesterday I was dining very close to Nana. And felt the urge after dinner was over.

In Nana, I went to several bars but couldn't find anyone. It was getting close to 2AM, I moved to Cowboy. I barfined a beautiful girl from Shark (number 64 if I remember right) and took her to the short time hotel. After one minute of blow job she didn't want to do more. I stopped the session. If you can't suck cock for more than a minute, you shouldn't do this job. I got my barfine back from her (600 bhats).

I then barfined a beautiful girl from Baccara. I discussed the smoking for a while before barfining her, but it didn't think I had to talk prices as I've barfined many girls from Baccara. On the way to the hotel she met a friend and used her to translate because her english was poor. She asked for 4000 short time. I laughed. 3000 short time. I laughed. This is the first time ever I've seen a girl try to go that high.

I said I always pay 1500 but I can pay her 2000 this time. Looking annoyed, she said ok, but pay first. I said no way. I got my barfine back from her, and left.

I don't know if this is proof of lowering standards in gogos or if I was just unlucky. Anyway it shows that if you don't get basic service do not be ashamed to ask and get your money back.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your honest report. I think the Gogo's are entertaining and can be some fun. But my experience is that they are not the best mongering spots. Some say they go to the Gogo's becasue they test the girls. Oh really??
You can get better service with a decent looking girl for 1k, from many of the SW's wondering the city.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1343683]Some say they go to the Gogo's becasue they test the girls. Oh really??[/QUOTE]Yes, really.

[QUOTE=BKK Rookie; 1337142]True. You may recall Pita123 telling you about how I lost 16k THB + camera + wad of USD from a girl who grabbed my keys and came back while I was taking my post-service stroll.

BiB no help.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show you that exercise isn't good for you.

[QUOTE=BKK Rookie; 1343559]I've encountered those former-USSR gals, back when I lived in BKK, from time-to-time in the 7/11 or other business on Soi 4, and they all were hard as nails. Quick to fight with any and every person. They must have hard lives and how they ended up in BKK can't be a pretty story.

The counter girls at the 7/11 clearly hated them.

I'm just guessing, but the GFE for them is likely about a negative-10.[/QUOTE]In my opinion the chances of GFE with CIS (outside of Russia, Ukraine or Belarus) is no more than 20. However, in their homeland it's entirely different story. There is lot of competition and quality is superb. Please note that if you haven't done the home work you would probably pay more than what you are paying in BKK.

Moreover, in BKK, KL and Dubai most of CIS are actually Uzbek, Turkmen, Kyrgyz and Kazak who are culturally very different from Slavic girls.

Do they face Mecca and pray 5 times a day, while lying with their legs spread wide in hotel beds on Sukkhumvit?

[QUOTE=Global Surfer;1343707]Moreover, in BKK, KL and Dubai most of CIS are actually Uzbek, Turkmen, Kyrgyz and Kazak who are culturally very different from Slavic girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343758]Do tell us how to get barfine back. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yesterday it was offered by both girls believe it or not, they saw we didn't agree and both said they could give me the barfine back and leave it at that; they offered before I asked for it.

But I got barfines back several times in the past by asking for it. If a girl doesn't feel like doing her job, I don't want to force it on her. I cut the session short after a few minutes. Get my money back. Take my losses on the 350 bhats room. And move on to someone who is more motivated. At least this way I'm not paying the 1500 bhats short time for what would probably be a poor time.

Stopping the session after a few minutes for a lack of basic performance, the girl knows you should get your barfine back. Usually asking her is enough. If she isn't sure, tell her you'll go back to the bar and ask the mamasan.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1343711]Do they face Mecca and pray 5 times a day[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to Indonesia?

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343628]No offense to baccara girls but a lot of them are not very good looking. LOL.[/QUOTE]Really? When was the last time you were in Baccara? Personally I think Baccara has one of the best selection of ladies in cowboy, so what does that say about the other bars there? Which venue, in your opinion, has a better line up?

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1343627]You a veteran sir. By now you should know looks has everything to do in determining what a girl can command (pricewise).

The ugliest girl can provide top quality service but won't command top price. Guys are paying for looks. Not service.[/QUOTE]If there is anything I have learned over the years, is that this isn't true. It is often and usually about attitude. I have been in bars and gogos where there is a girl who is by far and away the hottest in the bar (agreed upon by more than one guy) , and yet nobody talks to her or pulls her because her demeanor, attitude, facial expression, etc leaves so much to be desired, and often guys see the girls that are so full of themselves that they leave them well alone. Whereas the 3rd and 4th girls, who in no way are bad looking, have tons of guys because they smile, joke, have a good line, and are game. If anything I pay extra for good attitude and service, lookers are a plenty and not worth arguing or fighting over.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1343756]Streewalking is the most dangerous for the girl. They genereaally get the scum of the earth as customers or cheapos. Neither sounds too appealing.

Sorry but I see the strreet creatures you all see and I just don't see much appeal in them- other than lower prices. You just don't know what kind of baggage they carry and they don't have anyone to kowtow too-except maybe a pimp.[/QUOTE]I guess that means that all the girls you find on the street after 1 or 2 who have just come from jobs in Thaniya, Nana, or Cowboy must be scum of the earth too? Damn, think I'll remain a lowlife for the rest of my days, especially if I can have the pleasure of a wonderful time with these girls without the waste of a barfine, lady drinks, or the premium price most guys are being quoted in the bars. Let's see, I've had 2 Thaniya Plaza hotties in the past few weeks who normally go for 3000 baht. And damn, I am not even allowed into the bars they work in due to my skin color and race, and yet here I am having a blast with them for 1500, once they have become unappealing street trash.

BTW, I have as of yet to ever see a pimp with Thai girls on the street in Sukhumvit. If anyone can be called a pimp, it is a mamasan in a bar who gets a payout everytime the girl walks.

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1343655]I've been out of mongering for 6 months. Yesterday I was dining very close to Nana. And felt the urge after dinner was over.

In Nana, I went to several bars but couldn't find anyone. It was getting close to 2AM, I moved to Cowboy. I barfined a beautiful girl from Shark (number 64 if I remember right) and took her to the short time hotel. After one minute of blow job she didn't want to do more. I stopped the session. If you can't suck cock for more than a minute, you shouldn't do this job. I got my barfine back from her (600 bhats).

I then barfined a beautiful girl from Baccara.[/QUOTE]Not all my comments are really directed at you Chill out, or your post, as I know you are experienced.

I have these problems more often with Nana girls, but its all about choosing the right experienced girls, of course. Lesbian show girls are rarely a let down and they seem to know how to do things. In bars in general, I prefer girls who are very hot and sensual expert dancers, rather than very lazy types. They seem to perform better in bed too. A good long chat first helps understand the personality a bit, weeding out girls too shy / conservative and those to crazy or spaced out on drugs.

In the end its still a roll of the dice. We all get unlucky sometimes. Repeating with known great girls is of little risk of course.

With regard to Baccarat. I agree with Harold. They have reasonable looking girls, but only a few really stunning. Japanese tastes are clearly different to my own. I have been in there and unable to find a girl that appealed. Maybe arrived slightly too late. Upstairs girls are not good quality and too much silicone. Overall many girl have reasonable bodies and young but rather plain faces. I am picky. I agree Rainbow 4 has better looking girls, but even harder to choose a good one there.

I agree with Harold that street walkers have a reason for being there, but its not because they are ugly. Some good lookers on the street but not many. It's often because they are freelance, don't want to follow any rules, and don't want to have to sell drinks and get barfined etc. May need just enough money to get that fix so want to turn over a customer quickly. Could be they just need that rent money or mother's hospital bill and have a regular job too. So many different possible reasons. Not worth while to make to many assumptions about why a girl is selling a fuck. She clearly wants to make money, we want to buy. Just try to asses her character first, and weigh up the risks.

Bargirls that I take are honest enough, with just a small percentage giving crap performances. Usually warning signs should be there. I have never had a girl steal my stuff in over 20 years, but I rarely take street walkers.

My biggest problem is the girls I want to fuck are known to me and are simply not available, e.g. up country or booked by someone else. So I get forced to find a completely new girl on occasions. Otherwise I am bound to be very happy with an array of favourites. Its rare, if ever, I would think "all my regulars are available, but I'm bored with every one of them". Really super girls tend to remain super until they retire from the profession.

[QUOTE=Oldian; 1343479]The road is called Sukhumvit. Last night I ran into a provider I've been with before, extremely good looking. She'd been working in Baccara but quit because she didn't like the mamasan and said that there was not enough business. There are a thousand reasons why girls choose to come work the street as opposed to a bar, usually none of them having to do with looks. You find stunner in bars, you find stunners out of bars, usually has little to do with venue or price, the price just changes depending on the venue. I have seen girls that go to Spassos or Q Bar and go for 3-5000 come to the Beergarden and go for 1. 5 or less, had absolutely nothing to do with how they looked and everything to do with time of night, number of customers, number of sponsors, number of drinks, I could go on.

If there is anything I have learned in this country is that amount of payment has virtually zilch to do with services rendered or quality of the provider.[/QUOTE]Well said and very true.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1343867]Really? When was the last time you were in Baccara? Personally I think Baccara has one of the best selection of ladies in cowboy, so what does that say about the other bars there?[/QUOTE]Really? What disturbs me about Baccara is so many girls look so bored up there on the stage, like they are just going through the motions waiting to rip of someone Japanese customer that will pay them a lot for very little. Very pretty girls that dance really well are few. I prefer more raunchy bars like Suzi Wong and Sheba, although far too many girls are Ice addicts, even if banned on the premises, these days. Fortunately Ice addictions doesn't seem to spoil every girl's performance even if they get a bit loud and bit hyped. I avoid them if too spaced out though. The lineups there can be very weak in terms of beauty too but if I can find just one I like, I am happy. This was the case recently at Sheba where I liked just one girl and she had to be picked very early. Other good girls were all away.

[QUOTE=Lotus303;1343773]Yes, Please do tell. Living here 6 years and NEVER heard of a girl "giving" back a barfine.[/QUOTE]I've seen it happen. Typically because she thought of a better option for her evening.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1343948]Bargirls that I take are honest enough, with just a small percentage giving crap performances. Usually warning signs should be there. I have never had a girl steal my stuff in over 20 years, but I rarely take street walkers.[/QUOTE]I always take streetwalkers & have never had one steal anything of value. But, then, I don't leave cash or valuables lying around to tempt them.

My stuff is already locked up when she arrives at my room, or gets put away while she's in the shower.

I've had a few things pinched, like 60 baht perfume spray sticks.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343756]Streewalking is the most dangerous for the girl. They genereaally get the scum of the earth as customers or cheapos. Neither sounds too appealing.[/QUOTE]I'd agree about street working hookers being in more danger. This is true globally. Though many Thai street girls I've met seem quite cognizant of safety precautions, carrying a cell phone & making a call after they are in my room.

But I haven't noticed any difference in the looks of guys who go to bars & those who take street walkers. What would make the latter "scum"?

Maybe they just don't like noisy bars / gogos, aren't familiar or comfortable with the process of taking a sex worker from such places, or prefer to see up close & talk to whom they're getting as opposed to a long distance fishbowl look? Streetwalkers may also be much more available & convenient for taking back to one's nearby hotel room.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343756]Sorry but I see the strreet creatures you all see and I just don't see much appeal in them- other than lower prices. You just don't know what kind of baggage they carry and they don't have anyone to kowtow too-except maybe a pimp.[/QUOTE]Others see the appeal (other than price) in streetwalkers, but those such as yourself don't. Why would that be? BTW you seem to have trouble finding lookers anywhere, even Baccara or Rainbow 4.

How would you know what "baggage" any Thai P4P girl carries, unless she becomes a regular you get to know?

Some streetwalkers have pimps, mostly the "Russians" or "Africans", some have bodyguards & some have boyfriends hanging around. Aside from that they will often "kowtow" to the almighty carrot, er, baht, you wave in front of their noses. You want a girl to do something, but she won't, there's your answer. Quite different than threatening to report them to the mamasam, if they'd even care.

Material girl:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvm-TXJ1ycc[/url]

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1344076]A girl who gets 3000 at her regular gig would not be streetwalkingat2am. Perhaps she is just a 1500 girl. Hell, even most of the thaniya girls are that good looking!

From what I read 1500 for a street creature is overpaying. LOL.[/QUOTE]Some folks never learn. Keep paying for those 3000 baht stunners who you think never hit the street. It only makes it that much easier for others to pay half the price. Then again, if you don't think that there are any good looking girls in Thaniya or Baccara, the places you are frequenting are most likely the ones where the girls are charging 5000 (again of course, available for 1500 a few hours later depending on day, situation, and approach of the guy).

I have planned a trip to Bangkok from Beijing with a couple of mates for some time and we finally arrived a few days ago. I have been communicating with a couple of girls on a dating site and agreed to meet two of them in my hotel.

Now, I am new to this so I have just been acting on instinct rather than experience but to my surprise I had 2 great experiences without paying one single baht.

No1 girl was a short and not as slim as her pictures but what was lacking in her looks was compensated by how she was doing in bed. She claimed to be working in a shop but I think that she might have a second income as she was very professional in getting me cuming several times. She had relatively big tits which to me looked a little fake.

No2 girl is a true diamond. Sweet, reasonably good looking with a great body. At the first meeting we did not have sex but rather kissed and played with each other. Second meeting she stayed overnight and she gave me 2 great BBBJ, COT and CDS in all positions that I asked for. Meeting her again later to say goodbye and hopefully meet again when I come back next time (which will not be long).

This girl might be the real thing, very shy but still good in bed. I rather like small tits and this girl had the firmest little beauties so overall a really really good experience.

In which of the following clubs in Bangkok where is said that there are freelancers are probably the best looking ones and are worth a visit?

Bossy.

90/84 soi O. A. Rajchaprarop Road, Phayathai, Rachatavee.

Climax.

I'm Ambassador Hotel (Basement)

Sukhumvit Soi 11.

CM2.

I'm Novotel Siam Square.

392/44 Siam Square Soi 6.

Insomnia.

Sukhumvit Soi 12.

Mixx.

I'm Intercontinental Hotel (Basement)

Ploenchit Road (Chitlom BTS Station)

Nana Liquid.

I'm Nana Hotel.

Sukhumvit Soi 4.

Scratch Dog.

I'm Windsor Hotel (Basement)

8-10 Sukhumvit Road Soi 20.

Spasso.

I'm Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel.

RatchaDamri Road

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1344248]In which of the following clubs in Bangkok where is said that there are freelancers are probably the best looking ones and are worth a visit?

Bossy: 90/84 soi O. A. Rajchaprarop Road, Phayathai, Rachatavee.

Climax: Ambassador Hotel (Basement) Sukhumvit Soi 11.

CM2: Novotel Siam Square. 392/44 Siam Square Soi 6.

Insomnia: Sukhumvit Soi 12.

Mixx: Intercontinental Hotel (Basement) Ploenchit Road (Chitlom BTS Station)

Nana Liquid: Nana Hotel. Sukhumvit Soi 4.

Scratch Dog: Windsor Hotel (Basement) 8-10 Sukhumvit Road Soi 20.

Spasso: Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel. RatchaDamri Road[/QUOTE]Except from SCRATCH DOG I have been to every place on your list more than once with Climax as the place I have been visiting the most. That is probably bcs I am allways (with few exceptions) staying at Grand President (next to Ambassador) so it is a fairly easy walk (250 steps) from GP. Climax attracts beautiful girls and fills up with freelancers around midninght.

All the other places are also nice in my book for finding gems for adult fun. CM2 is nice if you want to get away from crowds with thai freelancegirls. Instead you have here crowds with freelance Stani girls (Kazak, Kirgi, Turkmeni.) or Slavic girls (Russian, Ukraine, Belarus, LAT / LIT / EST). You can also find some Thai girls here.

Spasso is regarded as a high roler place in some books but in my book it is just a normal venue located in an old Hyatt hotel. It is established a fact that the girls enters here quote more than in other places from 4K and up. If you meet them outside Spasso prices can drop by the thousands, hehe. The cover is quite steep in Spasso 700BHT so if the girls have to pay that one (I don't know if they have to) they will try to get it baked in their quoting price. The girls are the same as in other places. Mostly pretty and sexy shaped bodies.

Since the girls are freelancers they are floating around and can be met almost in every location you have mentioned. Which one has the highest percentage of beauty is damn hard to answer as all the places have stunners, beauties, normals, avarage and some rare ugly bitches as well. But my vote goes to Climax (as I have been there numerous of times and there are allways stunners with great attitude to be found sth stunners are known to put up with a starfish performance). But I think all places are great location for exploring our great hobby.

I would like add Shock69, Thermae, Bangkok Beat, Q-Bar and Bed&Supper Club to your list. Girls going to the 2 last ones can pretend they are not freelancegirls but many times you will see them later on in Climax. But in all groups of women you will find there are likely to be 1 or 2 not beeing freelancegirls so be careful in your approach as some might find it offencive to be concidered "working" in the adult business.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1343756]Streewalking is the most dangerous for the girl. They genereaally get the scum of the earth as customers or cheapos. Neither sounds too appealing.

Sorry but I see the strreet creatures you all see and I just don't see much appeal in them- other than lower prices. You just don't know what kind of baggage they carry and they don't have anyone to kowtow too-except maybe a pimp.[/QUOTE]Exactly what is "scum of the earth?" There must be a lot of them around or there would be no reason for SW to stand and wait for one to come along. Did you see trashy looking clowns with ripped up dirty clothes who live under bridges? Most of the cheap scum, I've seen, picking up SW, look like any other horny jerk off looking for sex. Some in pressed pants or jeans and others in tourist shorts. As far as baggage, the street creatures do usually have a pocket book. The scum must be cheapos if they don't want to buy LDs, their expensive drinks, barfines, tips, inflated carrying charges and have a lot of time to waste sittting around a smoky stinking bar for an hour or more.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1343758]Do tell us how to get barfine back. LOL.[/QUOTE]Harold, they often return it to me, usually in the same envelope with the 4, 000 they volunteer to pay for the experience, on condition I allow them to try it again the next day.

[QUOTE=Oldian;1344106]Some folks never learn. Keep paying for those 3000 baht stunners who you think never hit the street. It only makes it that much easier for others to pay half the price. Then again, if you don't think that there are any good looking girls in Thaniya or Baccara, the places you are frequenting are most likely the ones where the girls are charging 5000 (again of course, available for 1500 a few hours later depending on day, situation, and approach of the guy).[/QUOTE]Thai girls are not stupid when it comes to money.

Ultimately they will try to get the most money per fuck and this level will be relative to her present bank account level.

Spasso girls quoting 5K a hit can be had for 1500 baht in other locations if their bank account is getting empty and they need to pay the rent.

This is the often seen trend in Bangkok, after pay day the amount of freelancers declines rapidly, as those who are working in offices or supermarkets or restaurants have cash.

As the month goes by more return to freelancing as and when their cash runs out.

The lowest prices in Bangkok are often a week counting down to day the rent is due on their apartment. As they get desperate for cash so their "asking price" drops. This is why you will see many people report difference prices for the same thing as it all depends on when you were in Bangkok relative to the general time of the month and the distance from payday and the distance to the day the rent is due. If you are vistiting Bangkok you will generally find that the first week of the month is the worst, not many girls around and also prices are high. The second week improves a little, depending if they have blown cash on a new phone or sent it home etc. And then as you enter the third week things improve drastically as many more girls are "spent out" and need cash. The fourth week of the month is highlight time as this is when everyone is short of cash.

As for girls and where they go, they all go to the same places. Beer Garden girls will go to Gullivers or Bangkok Beat or Climax or Insomnia etc. To try to get "higher prices" when they are not short of cash and then you can find them in the BG when they are short of cash as they know if they look decent it easy pickings in the Beer Garden for a prettier girl, always picked up but yes, at lower prices. Supply and demand rules in Bangkok.

Girls who "only" go to Insomnia or Bang Beat can be found in the Beer Garden when short of cash and needed money quick.

The same way girls who "only" go to Q Bar and Bed and other "higher end" clubs can also be found in Climax and Insomnia when short of cash.

My advice for anyone going to Bangkok is always to try to time your trip to be the last 2 weeks of the month, when money starts to run out and more girls are "part timing" being a freelancer. Streetwalker action is always at its highes the last week of the month where office girls who get short of cash will attempt to get some money. They do not know the bar scene and where to go and end up on the streets where other girls are.

A lot of girls you only see for a short while in the Beer Garden start off there as they were short of cash and a taxi driver tells her that Soi 7 is a place where lots of farang are looking for sex for money. Once they get to know the Beer Garden they start to learn of Bangkok Beat, Gullivers, Climax and then spread around as they get more experienced with the scene.

Dear All,

Is there any news from SOL in Pat II?

Will be back to the action in about 10 days.

Regards.

FV

[QUOTE=The Pro; 1344502]Thai girls are not stupid when it comes to money.

Ultimately they will try to get the most money per fuck and this level will be relative to her present bank account level.

Spasso girls quoting 5K a hit can be had for 1500 baht in other locations if their bank account is getting empty and they need to pay the rent.

This is the often seen trend in Bangkok, after pay day the amount of freelancers declines rapidly, as those who are working in offices or supermarkets or restaurants have cash.

As the month goes by more return to freelancing as and when their cash runs out.

The lowest prices in Bangkok are often a week counting down to day the rent is due on their apartment. As they get desperate for cash so their "asking price" drops. This is why you will see many people report difference prices for the same thing as it all depends on when you were in Bangkok relative to the general time of the month and the distance from payday and the distance to the day the rent is due. If you are vistiting Bangkok you will generally find that the first week of the month is the worst, not many girls around and also prices are high. The second week improves a little, depending if they have blown cash on a new phone or sent it home etc. And then as you enter the third week things improve drastically as many more girls are "spent out" and need cash. The fourth week of the month is highlight time as this is when everyone is short of cash.

As for girls and where they go, they all go to the same places. Beer Garden girls will go to Gullivers or Bangkok Beat or Climax or Insomnia etc. To try to get "higher prices" when they are not short of cash and then you can find them in the BG when they are short of cash as they know if they look decent it easy pickings in the Beer Garden for a prettier girl, always picked up but yes, at lower prices. Supply and demand rules in Bangkok.

Girls who "only" go to Insomnia or Bang Beat can be found in the Beer Garden when short of cash and needed money quick.

The same way girls who "only" go to Q Bar and Bed and other "higher end" clubs can also be found in Climax and Insomnia when short of cash.

My advice for anyone going to Bangkok is always to try to time your trip to be the last 2 weeks of the month, when money starts to run out and more girls are "part timing" being a freelancer. Streetwalker action is always at its highes the last week of the month where office girls who get short of cash will attempt to get some money. They do not know the bar scene and where to go and end up on the streets where other girls are.

A lot of girls you only see for a short while in the Beer Garden start off there as they were short of cash and a taxi driver tells her that Soi 7 is a place where lots of farang are looking for sex for money. Once they get to know the Beer Garden they start to learn of Bangkok Beat, Gullivers, Climax and then spread around as they get more experienced with the scene.[/QUOTE]Very well written post Pro, except I'd take difference with you on one point. The actual last day for paying rent is not the 1st but I believe the 6th, so there is often a tremendous supply of ready and willing and needy talent on the 4th and 5th, so first week of the month is actually good. What gets me though is that although most of your statements should be 100% true, in the last several years, these norms are no longer the case. 3 years ago if you went into the BG on Friday the 29th, the place would be a madhouse and you'd have tons of talent to pick from. Honestly, these days, Friday the 29th in there might have the 99% exact same crowd that is in there day in day out and often nothing more. For whatever reasons, be it easy money on the internet, better paying or more available jobs, or whatever, it just isn't the same. And I have found this true in many venues. I'll go to the Thermae on the 30th all jazzed up, only to find it completely dead, and then lo and behold, come Monday the 9th, it is packed to the gills with some fresh talent. Go figure.

But you are dead right about venue, time, place often deciding price. I once pulled a real cutie from the Thermae whom I gave 1500 to, had never seen her before. But then a week later she started showing up in the BG all the time, and as I'd already set the 1500 bar, couldn't just drop down to 1000 because I'd found her down the street. I also find it rather amusing that you can walk out of the Thermae, where they are all trying to quote 2000, walk 100 steps down the road, and they are quoting 1000 straight up (often a few cuties who could easily command 2000 from someone in the Thermae).

[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor; 1344615]Dear All,

Is there any news from SOL in Pat II?[/QUOTE]Was in there yesterday afternoon. Full on sex going on with the only other guy in there. A small girl was riding him hard, she then bent over the couch thingy for the finish.

Meantime, I got my beer and got a great BJ on the couch from a chubby-ish girl that I had had before. A skilled fellatrice, I got deep throat and eye contact for about 20 minutes until I unloaded in her mouth.

All this time another girl watched the door and brought me more beers!

Total damage <1, 000 for the beers and the BJ.

[QUOTE=Oldian;1344681]Very well written post Pro, except I'd take difference with you on one point. The actual last day for paying rent is not the 1st but I believe the 6th, so there is often a tremendous supply of ready and willing and needy talent on the 4th and 5th, so first week of the month is actually good.[/QUOTE]I've had a few working girls say their rent is due on the fifth of each month.

[QUOTE=Oldian;1344681]What gets me though is that although most of your statements should be 100% true, in the last several years, these norms are no longer the case. 3 years ago if you went into the BG on Friday the 29th, the place would be a madhouse and you'd have tons of talent to pick from. Honestly, these days, Friday the 29th in there might have the 99% exact same crowd that is in there day in day out and often nothing more. For whatever reasons, be it easy money on the internet, better paying or more available jobs, or whatever, it just isn't the same. And I have found this true in many venues. I'll go to the Thermae on the 30th all jazzed up, only to find it completely dead, and then lo and behold, come Monday the 9th, it is packed to the gills with some fresh talent. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Some ladies have told me if they haven't paid their rent by the 5th they are charged 100 Baht extra for each day beyond that. If so, then by the 9th they'll be owing 400 Baht extra & may be especially desperate.

[QUOTE=Oldian;1344681]But you are dead right about venue, time, place often deciding price. I once pulled a real cutie from the Thermae whom I gave 1500 to, had never seen her before. But then a week later she started showing up in the BG all the time, and as I'd already set the 1500 bar, couldn't just drop down to 1000 because I'd found her down the street. I also find it rather amusing that you can walk out of the Thermae, where they are all trying to quote 2000, walk 100 steps down the road, and they are quoting 1000 straight up (often a few cuties who could easily command 2000 from someone in the Thermae).[/QUOTE]I've paid an escort 1000 as a streetwalker, whereas her online escort rate was several thousand more.

Renoir closed on 30. 10. 12. After 26 years in business. Gone. A good indication what's going on here in the road.


Giotto
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[QUOTE=Oldian;1344681]Very well written post Pro, except I'd take difference with you on one point. The actual last day for paying rent is not the 1st but I believe the 6th, so there is often a tremendous supply of ready and willing and needy talent on the 4th and 5th, so first week of the month is actually good.[/QUOTE]I seem to have grace up to the 5th to pay my rent, even if due on the first. After that I forget what happens, as its normally done by the 5th. The 100 fine per day mentioned by the other guy sounds familar but that probably applies to fairly low rent places.

Obviously plenty of girls don't have their rent by the last day. Things go wrong like pussy out of action with a problem.

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1345049]Renoir closed on 30. 10. 12. After 26 years in business. Gone. A good indication what's going on here in the road.

Giotto

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Something like the Starbucks effect? Overpriced and overrated!

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1345107]I seem to have grace up to the 5th to pay my rent, even if due on the first. After that I forget what happens, as its normally done by the 5th. The 100 fine per day mentioned by the other guy sounds familar but that probably applies to fairly low rent places.

Obviously plenty of girls don't have their rent by the last day. Things go wrong like pussy out of action with a problem.[/QUOTE]I think the 100 bt fine is in effect everywhere. Only for the very cheap rents the fine starts from the 2nd day of the month, where for all other apartments in the range as from e. G. 2500bt per month it is common to start after the 5th of the month. So yeh. 1st four days of the month the picks are way better, especially with those girls that get paid twice a month.

Hi Everyone,

I'm a new poster to this forum; I normally hang out in the Tijuana forums, living as I do in southern California. First off, thanks for all of the awesome information! I am on my way to Thailand (I'm a newbie to Thailand) in two weeks time and I think that ISG has answered most of my questions regarding Thailand, save one. My question, ironically, isn't about the travel or monger scene but more about technology issues to expect while visiting Thailand.

Specifically, what do other mongers recommend for cellular / 3G / data plans while visiting Thailand? The reason I ask is not so much because I want to spend time surfing the net while there, but rather in order to use my VoIP app on my iPhone. I purchased a number through Iconnecthere. Com, which means that people from North America can call me at the number, and I will receive the call in Thailand, and I can use my phone to call North America for a very low rate. However, this will not work unless I can somehow link my iPhone to a local cellular / data provider.

Does anybody have any recommendations for how to go about doing this? I understand there are places where this can be done at the BKK airport, but my flight arrives at midnight, and they may not be open. Where else in BKK can I do this, and what brands / carriers do other mongers recommend? I am not very technically inclined, so I would like a full service place (no pun intended) where they can help me with the plan and also adjusting my phone settings. I've never used Iconnecthere. Com before, so if anybody knows any tips etc that would also be appreciated.

Before regular members heap scorn on me let me just say, in my own defense, that I did RTFF and found some very helpful information but I'm a techno-phobe and it's really important that I get my phone serivce up and running right away, with minimal issues. I also don't want to waste the whole trip with technical issues! Thanks in advance, and I may be back with a few more questions. I promise, in return, to leave a series of good trip reports.

I will be arriving in BKK on November 18th (late in the evening) so if anybody will be around Nana Plaza that week and wants to get together for a beer or two, the first round is on me! I'll be staying at the Nana hotel in BKK and then hope to head south to Pattaya later in the week. Happy mongering and safe travels to everyone!

Blue Nose

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1345168]Specifically, what do other mongers recommend for cellular / 3G / data plans while visiting Thailand? The reason I ask is not so much because I want to spend time surfing the net while there, but rather in order to use my VoIP app on my iPhone. I purchased a number through Iconnecthere. Com, which means that people from North America can call me at the number, and I will receive the call in Thailand, and I can use my phone to call North America for a very low rate. However, this will not work unless I can somehow link my iPhone to a local cellular / data provider.[/QUOTE]Ther are two main provider's of Mobile service in Thailand: DTAC and AIS. I use AIS and it has 3G coverage in some areas. I imagine DTAC is the same. You can get a prepaid top up SIM card and purchase a package that includes so many Gig of data per month, or so many hours, or unlimited data service. Just one month if you like.

I have two phone numbers in other countries that are mobile because they are Skype connections. When I do not answer Skype after so many rings, sometimes due to data / internet connection dropping out, then Skype automatically redirects to my mobile phone number in Thailand. So in the end I am covered no matter what, and I have a separate Thai phone number for mongering Prepaid SIM card which can be shut off when I don't want any awkward calls coming in.

So just about always contactable when I want to be. With this set up I don't use a normal home phone number at all. I have too many different residences and I may not always be located where everyone thinks I am.

My setup makes it seem like I am at home in Thailand and 2 other countries simultaneously, and it doesn't cost a packet either.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1345203]Ther are two main provider's of Mobile service in Thailand: DTAC and AIS. I use AIS and it has 3G coverage in some areas. I imagine DTAC is the same. You can get a prepaid top up SIM card and purchase a package that includes so many Gig of data per month, or so many hours, or unlimited data service. Just one month if you like.[/QUOTE]I'm a True Move man myself. They are the same as the others but once you add minutes to your phone your phone number is good for 1 year from that date. [url]http://www.truemove.com/en/index.rails[/url]

[QUOTE=Bifyr38; 1344218]I have planned a trip to Bangkok from Beijing with a couple of mates for some time and we finally arrived a few days ago. I have been communicating with a couple of girls on a dating site and agreed to meet two of them in my hotel.

Now, I am new to this so I have just been acting on instinct rather than experience but to my surprise I had 2 great experiences without paying one single baht.

No1 girl was a short and not as slim as her pictures but what was lacking in her looks was compensated by how she was doing in bed. She claimed to be working in a shop but I think that she might have a second income as she was very professional in getting me cuming several times. She had relatively big tits which to me looked a little fake.

No2 girl is a true diamond. Sweet, reasonably good looking with a great body. At the first meeting we did not have sex but rather kissed and played with each other. Second meeting she stayed overnight and she gave me 2 great BBBJ, COT and CDS in all positions that I asked for. Meeting her again later to say goodbye and hopefully meet again when I come back next time (which will not be long).

This girl might be the real thing, very shy but still good in bed. I rather like small tits and this girl had the firmest little beauties so overall a really really good experience.[/QUOTE]Any pics? This would spice up the review.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1345284]You been to Pattaya yet tony? I just can't bring myself to go there.

Anyone stayatlaurel suites in victory monument area? Only thing I'm unsure about is _ 10 minute walk to bts. Translated in real time usually means 15-20 minute walk. LOL.

16500 monthly, wifi and window included is all I need! No contract needed.

Last month I stayed smack dab in the middle of suk for 20, 000. Only thing is you get a room w no window.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I didn't really like it. I wasn't impressed with the quality of girls there! To be fair I went during a major holiday so maybe most of the top talent went home to their families, like most do during Christmas break?

A good place to people watch, it seemed quite a few steroid boys getting into heated arguments with ladyboys on Walking Street. LOL.

Interestingly enough, the hottest girls I saw in Pattaya were Japanese tourists.

Not sure I would want to stay at Victory monument. Why not try On Nut? Plenty of reasonable places to stay there and an easy straight shot on the BTS to the night life areas.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1345284]You been to Pattaya yet tony? I just can't bring myself to go there. <

Last month I stayed smack dab in the middle of suk for 20, 000. Only thing is you get a room w no window.[/QUOTE]20, 000 in Pattaya will get you a deluxe high rise condo with spectacular sea view while the same amount in BKK gets you a crummy room with no window.

Are you sure you can't bring yourself to go?

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1345314]20, 000 in Pattaya will get you a deluxe high rise condo with spectacular sea view while the same amount in BKK gets you a crummy room with no window.

Are you sure you can't bring yourself to go?[/QUOTE]Daddy07,

He's a dreamer and a child! You got to be a real man to visit Pattaya, its just too much for a child to handle plus if he did come when he grows up he most likely will stay near or in BoysTown. Think why is hasn't been posting? Summer vacation in the USA he most likely was sent away for summer camp and nows back in his locked room waiting for mama to call out " what you doing in your room Harold?"

The Internet is a great tool one can travel now without actually being there?

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1345368]Daddy07,

He's a dreamer and a child! You got to be a real man to visit Pattaya, its just too much for a child to handle plus if he did come when he grows up he most likely will stay near or in BoysTown. Think why is hasn't been posting? Summer vacation in the USA he most likely was sent away for summer camp and nows back in his locked room waiting for mama to call out " what you doing in your room Harold?"

The Internet is a great tool one can travel now without actually being there?

LBM[/QUOTE]Summer camp. Good one! I was thinking he just got out of juvenile lockup for copping a feel on the bus pretending he was on the sky train.

[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1345314]20, 000 in Pattaya will get you a deluxe high rise condo with spectacular sea view while the same amount in BKK gets you a crummy room with no window.

Are you sure you can't bring yourself to go?[/QUOTE]I found a place like that in north Pattaya for 10, 000 B. Some nice bargains are out there.

You guys who are bad mouthing them probably have never had any time with SW's in BKK or Pattaya. Let me guess, you think the Gogo girls are cleaner and more honest. ?

Some of the best experiences I have had in P4P, have been with these girls. I will take some LT after spending time with them.

Most are just girls with kids trying to make a few bucks. I treat them nice, take them to dinner, etc.

I really like my SW experiences. Never had a terrible one that I can think of.

I received a pm from a helpful person and signed up at dia. You're having better luck than I am, or I'm picking the wrong ones. I've had a lot of interest from women on the love links sites etc but most seem to be interested in finding a farang or westerner for marriage. The ones who say that they don't want to be someone's holiday girlfriend, seem to mean it. All the Thai women I've met online seem to have conservative values.

I did meet a nice friend on one site, we're meeting up at a villa down south for a few days but she's not expecting money, and I'm not expecting sex (I have enough of that lined up in BKK before and after) , we've talked for hours and have have a connection, just not one with our genitals.

Any tips to share on picking women interested in free or paid sex on the dating sites?

[QUOTE=The Pro; 1340905]Re-arrange these words Asia In Date.

99% of the men and women on these dating sites lie.

They say "no tourist, no sex talk, bad man stay away" etc. Get to know them and they will offer long time for 1500 baht. LOL.

I have done hundreds from the dating sites. But it gets boring doing all the same talking over and over again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1345511]I received a pm from a helpful person and signed up at dia. You're having better luck than I am, or I'm picking the wrong ones. I've had a lot of interest from women on the love links sites etc but most seem to be interested in finding a farang or westerner for marriage. The ones who say that they don't want to be someone's holiday girlfriend, seem to mean it. All the Thai women I've met online seem to have conservative values.

I did meet a nice friend on one site, we're meeting up at a villa down south for a few days but she's not expecting money, and I'm not expecting sex (I have enough of that lined up in BKK before and after) , we've talked for hours and have have a connection, just not one with our genitals.

Any tips to share on picking women interested in free or paid sex on the dating sites?[/QUOTE]If you are looking for paid sex then it is probably to go to a venue and cold pick someone instead of wasting a bunch of time on dating sites. Free sex? I don't know any women who go online with the intention of finding someone just for sex unless it's a site such as adultfriendfinder or something of the like. Most free sex is usually just a spontaneous t hing between consenting adults. As for DIA, I'm never able to get many Thais from it. It serves a better purpose when looking for p4p or free in the Philippines. Enough for now. Damn smartphone sux.

As others have stated here both now and earlier it is far more easier ways to get sex than signing up with dating sites girls. I could not agree more. But as for me I like the process pre travel to chat, write and get to know some possible gems I can meet up with when I like to add normality into my travel.

The "get to know process" can take quite some time so it is time consuming. Most of the girls signing up I believe have some sort of actual / real wish to find a nice farang and create a steady relationship. As I have a few regulars and almost everyone is picked from datingsites I think I can say I know how this works (atleast for me) and I find most of them willing to skip their thoughts of long term relationship after a while (into the get to know process). Someone I am sure lie to me as well and are P4P due to various situations maby not streetwalkers but maby works in Gents clubs or simular (I have my thoughts regarding this but have realy not put a lot of investigation into it as I get what I want). Some have also nice apartments and are in Thai standard doing quite well. But how they get their money I do not know except they claim having real jobs. I can not blame them for lying as I do a fair bit of lying myself (as I am in relationship in Norway and so on).

I find you can spot the P4P girls inside datingsites as of which time they are logged on and compare that to when we know P4P are most active in real life (then they are logged off). When they get home 3-4am in the morning Thai time they log in again (that is a sign she is P4P). You have that going to clubs gap where they can not stay active, hehe.

Bar and club pics in general from the girl means she is a party girl which again most certainly means she is not new to this P4P game (there are of course exceptions but traditional Thai girls don't put out pics like this).

Almost nude pics and so on also gives me the impression that here we have a girl who I can fuck for money.

I also have encountered girls having the most boring and religious profile who are realy faking their beeing "good" girls. They are great actresses. But I know decent traditional thaigirls, young ones, and if they can give me a blow job from here to heaven the first time they taste my banana I know there is something wrong, hehe. Traditional Thaigirls almost never ever come straight to your hotel as for the first date (this will almost certainly means she has done this before and she will fuck for money). Most likely do you have to meet both her and a friend for the first date. Thanks God there are ways to get pass this obstickle as in my "fake you are sick" act. Then you can lure girls into your room as they worry about you and bring you medication. If you are lucky you can get a sympathy fuck or more.

Just my 2 norwegian kroner.

First off, thanks to Syzygies and Mr Enternational for answering my telephony-related questions. I know that regular members of a forum get tired of answering the same questions over and over again from naive travelers like myself. This November will mark my first trip to Thailand, but I have had a fair bit of international experience, and I have been using the international dating sites for years, so I will chime in with my two American cents.

Outside of Thailand, my feeling is that the majority of the women on the legitimate dating sites (cupid sites etc) are legitimate, rather than pros. I have corresponded with many and traveled deep into the heart of Mexico and Central and South America to meet some of them. This is true in other countries which, similar to Thailand, are known destinations for guys like us (DR, Colombia etc). However, other posters are correct in that a person must invest time in getting to know the girl before meeting her in person, in order to set the stage. This was fine, back in the good old days before chat became so widespread and you could simply email back and forth. Nowadays, most people are into the web camera chat thing and, while it can be fun, takes up a lot of time. One woman I knew in the Philippines would expect me to be online every night and if / when I wasn't she would call my mobile number to ask where I was (usually watching TV or out screwing around). One way around this is to set expectations up front: you only have a certain amount of time per week to chat because of your work, business travel etc. Also, depending on where you are in the world, the time zone differences can make it very challenging.

However, if you do put in a good faith effort up front at chatting, getting to know the girl etc. Then it tends to pay a handsome dividend down the road when you first meet in person. Out of all the Latinas I have ever met through a dating site (and remember that Latinas are from conservative countries, with strong catholic backgrounds) , I have never once NOT had sex on the first date. There was one woman from Mexico City with whom I was communicating for a while, and she later came to California to visit her aunt. One Friday, I went to meet her, and after a quick date of frozen yogourt, she dragged me back to her aunt's apartment-while her aunt was out working-and we had a great time!

I've also had good luck with PI Cupid, and there are many lovely Pinays who would just love a shot at a great person like yourself! I went on that site thinking I would get to know a few girls and then travel over to PI to meet them. It turns out I didn't ever have to leave the US as more than one of the girls has had family in Los Angeles, and I ended up meeting them on my own turf! So, overall I've had pretty good luck and part of it is based on where I live as there are many people from Latin America and SE Asia around here. Hell, it's made me not just incredibly picky, when it comes to local women, but also incredibly lazy. Why jump through hoops when you can just go online, and after a few weeks have a couple of sure things lined up, and they are way way better than any woman one is likely to come across in the West. The sad truth, I think, is that like many of you I've essentially written off most American / Western women for anything other than occaisonal sport-fucking. Once one swallows the red pill, as it were, it is very difficult to go back. Speaking honestly, I'm not sure I would really want to at this point, now that I know the pleasures of global romance and dating. I honestly feel sorry for the average American man, who is unaware that life is so different in other places, and ends up with a horrid Western / Ameriskank. Oh well, it means more for the rest of us!

For this trip, I am not actively pursuing the girls on the Thai dating web sites. I looked into it, but figured that I didn't have enough time in Thailand to really do all my mongering, siteseeing, drinking and have to deal with a series of first dates. This trip is really designed to see if I like Thailand, the culture, the people and the women. If I do, then I will be back soon enough and at that point I will set up some dates with local women.

Do any guys on this site have experience with just meeting non-pro women in Thailand outside of a dating site (bars, clubs, shops, street etc)? Some guys have luck with that approach, it seems, but I've found that language can often be an issue. In any event, I'd like to hear back from some of the more experienced players on whether this approach is likely to work at all. I would like to at least try and give it a shot, and of course I will report back on it, so any advice on interacting with the locals is most welcome.

Blue Nose

[QUOTE=Blue Nose; 1345617]Do any guys on this site have experience with just meeting non-pro women in Thailand outside of a dating site (bars, clubs, shops, street etc)? Some guys have luck with that approach, it seems, but I've found that language can often be an issue. In any event, I'd like to hear back from some of the more experienced players on whether this approach is likely to work at all. I would like to at least try and give it a shot, and of course I will report back on it, so any advice on interacting with the locals is most welcome.

Blue Nose[/QUOTE]Well since you ask this question I can answer yes it is ofcourse possible but you are correct that language could be a bit of a problem. There are ofcourse well educated girls out there speaking kind of perfect english as in business women, tourist related jobs (and I am not thinking about working with our "sport") , airlinestaff and so on. To get them is in my opinion as difficult or easy as it is in my or your country and its foundation is based out of normal mechanisms (boy meet girl) , looks, attitude, chemistry etc. Not likely to happen anything first meet with normal traditional Thai girls. But as a younger breed of women are raised in big international cities around the world (lets say Bangkok in our case) girls upbringing can be somewhat different here than out on the countryside. You can ofcourse try to visit places where Thai people go out to dance / drink like Bangkoks RCA area. I have scored there but have to admit I was joining one friend of mine working in Bangkok who also speaks some Thai. The girl was part of the group of people from his office.

Another time I was doing pure "sharity work" as I was in Tawandang German Brewery (Rama III or sth) a nice place were Thai people have social or business related meetings. This evening, approx 1 year ago, some people from The Good Child Foundation was having some sort of meeting and they did bring some teenagers with downs syndrome to this place. After a while and with no "dark" intentions I found myself dancing with some of them (girls and boys) and I did see that draw some attention from the leaders and they were smiling at me. To make a long story short I did end up meeting one of the leaders of this group and we did have a nice time also sexualy. She was Thai but was kind of international so she knew the game. She tought I was such a nice guy who gave downs syndrome people attention. So by pure luck you can pick also normal girls from the right settings.

She was atleast totaly and utterly very normal girl who simply fell in love with me. That was ofcourse a bit to much for me and I could not handle that very well as I cherish my hobby (mongering) a great deal. So I ended the hole situation in a decent manner. I did not want to hurt her feelings by cheating or lying.

But there are stories of people just walking up to beautiful girls on the streets or in the malls and they fix themself some sexual interaction. I have tried this at MBK shopping mall but in all honesty (I think I have worte this in a report long time ago) I did not find her to be none P4P after all. But I did not know at the time of my approach. Lets call her semi none P4P hehe.

So good luck everything is possible but I geuss it is all about stamina and patience.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose; 1345617]Do any guys on this site have experience with just meeting non-pro women in Thailand outside of a dating site (bars, clubs, shops, street etc)? Some guys have luck with that approach, it seems, but I've found that language can often be an issue. In any event, I'd like to hear back from some of the more experienced players on whether this approach is likely to work at all. I would like to at least try and give it a shot, and of course I will report back on it, so any advice on interacting with the locals is most welcome.

Blue Nose[/QUOTE]Yes, its possible to meet non p4p girls outside of dating sites, but its not really easy. There are a few obstacles that stand in your way. The biggest one is language barrier as your typical Thai girl doesn't speak very good English or might speak a little bit but is too shy to attempt to hold a conversation. Another is a good chance the object of your desire is with her friend (s) , and while she might be interested in you she might not want to appear a **** in front of her friends and just brush you off. Another one is most good girls stray away from the typical farang haunts.

While a guy may get some free sex from a girl from the bars or clubs, there's a strong chance she's a p4p girl. Just because she didn't charge you doesn't mean she's not a hooker on the DL, kinda like meeting a pilot and not saying she's a pilot just because she didn't fly you around in Boeing 777. FWIW, as Skogis alluded to its pretty easy to tell if a girl is a hooker and they'l give you lots of clues- free during the day, evasive when you ask them about their job, say they work in beauty salons to make fast money, pics of them in farang nightclubs, passport full of Singapore stamps, etc.

For a newb it might not be as easy, but someone who been here a long time can see through the BS. As Bill Parcells once said,"you are what your record is" LOL
fwiw, Thai Love Links has the highest percentage of "good girls".. Thai Friendly has a lot of girls on there who are bored or actually hookers...

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1345617]For this trip, I am not actively pursuing the girls on the Thai dating web sites. I looked into it, but figured that I didn't have enough time in Thailand to really do all my mongering, siteseeing, drinking and have to deal with a series of first dates. This trip is really designed to see if I like Thailand, the culture, the people and the women. If I do, then I will be back soon enough and at that point I will set up some dates with local women.[/quote]If it's your first trip, then it is wise to do it this way. But Thailand is way more complicated than it looks and the Real Thailand isn't Bangkok or Pattaya. If you want to get a feel for the people or the Culture with a trip to Bangkok, you won't get much intel.

[quote]Do any guys on this site have experience with just meeting non-pro women in Thailand outside of a dating site (bars, clubs, shops, street etc)? Some guys have luck with that approach, it seems, but I've found that language can often be an issue. In any event, I'd like to hear back from some of the more experienced players on whether this approach is likely to work at all. I would like to at least try and give it a shot, and of course I will report back on it, so any advice on interacting with the locals is most welcome.[/QUOTE]Forget that. Unless you are very good looking and have money to blow, you won't get the pretty Girls. Street Encounters, chatting up shop girls is possible but you need a really good "game plan" because regular thai girls won't let themselves be seen flirting openly with a Foreigner in public.

Speaking a bit of Thai helps a lot.

As you said you don't have much time, then don't waste it running after "hard to get in a limited time" pussy and stick to P4P.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1345617]This trip is really designed to see if I like Thailand, the culture, the people and the women. If I do, then I will be back soon enough and at that point I will set up some dates with local women.[/QUOTE]I'm betting you will definitely be back in the near future.

Regards.

BJ

Thanks Josh, I'll give it a shot. I've seen the ones with "generous, supportive" etc. On Craigslist and the like but haven't noticed that on the dia or love links sites. The ones that state they want a serious relationship, don't want to be your holiday girlfriend etc. , when I chat with they, many say they're looking for a husband and if I'm not looking for a wife to not waste their time.

I'll keep trying, it's a numbers game.

[QUOTE=Josh Inyu; 1340865]Yes, that's what they write. Serious, not for fun, the list goes on. Positive code words / phrases. Can take care, generous, supportive. You have to read in between the lines a bit to find suitable leads. Don't spend a lot of time chatting, contact them just before or after you arrive. If you write saying "I'm here now lets meet for (blank)" you will get lucky eventually. If they give up their phone number quickly thats a good sign too. Meet them somewhere neutral, not your hotel.

Josh[/QUOTE]

Thanks to everybody for your thoughtful replies regarding the dating scene in Thailand, ex dating sites. With only a short visit, and a lack of understanding of Thai culture (which, I can appreciate, is much more complex than it may seem to a foreigner) I think I'll stick to mongering for now. The language issue has also tripped me up before, even in places where the women are generally much more receptive to being approached than here in the West.

I will be arriving in BKK on November 18th, staying at the Nana Hotel for three nights, then heading to Pattya on the 21st for two nights, staying at the Penthouse. Thanks again for all the great info, and hit me up if you'd like to catch up for a beer and / or you have any interest whatsoever in latinas in Central and South America, but weren't sure who to ask!

Blue Nose

Been to BKK, time of my life. Making a trip to lisbon / spain; was wondering if fellow experienced mongers to BKK ever been to that area. Can't get any response in that forum. Forgive me for a displaced post. Cheers brothers.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346032]I will be arriving in BKK on November 18th, staying at the Nana Hotel for three nights, then heading to Pattya on the 21st for two nights, staying at the Penthouse.Blue Nose[/QUOTE]If you want to pursue non P4P girls from dating sites and you tell them you stay in the most known mongering hotels, you will fail to have the girls coming to see you in the rooms. Nana and PH are probbaly the most "mongering" traditional residendences. Just like saying to a girl in Japan you have a room in a Love Hotel.

She will run away or if she comes. Puts your hands in the wallet pocket.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1346176]If you want to pursue non P4P girls from dating sites and you tell them you stay in the most known mongering hotels, you will fail to have the girls coming to see you in the rooms. Nana and PH are probbaly the most "mongering" traditional residendences. Just like saying to a girl in Japan you have a room in a Love Hotel.

She will run away or if she comes. Puts your hands in the wallet pocket.[/QUOTE]That is very true and good info. I will stay in those areas, but always high end hotels. It lowers their mongering suspicions.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1345511]I received a pm from a helpful person and signed up at dia. You're having better luck than I am, or I'm picking the wrong ones. I've had a lot of interest from women on the love links sites etc but most seem to be interested in finding a farang or westerner for marriage. The ones who say that they don't want to be someone's holiday girlfriend, seem to mean it. All the Thai women I've met online seem to have conservative values.

I did meet a nice friend on one site, we're meeting up at a villa down south for a few days but she's not expecting money, and I'm not expecting sex (I have enough of that lined up in BKK before and after) , we've talked for hours and have have a connection, just not one with our genitals.

Any tips to share on picking women interested in free or paid sex on the dating sites?[/QUOTE]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them. And this is just off one site, Thai Lovelinks.

Who are you? If you are dirty looking, poor, asking for sex upfront, maybe a non-white (many girls just want farang) , you may have issues meeting girls on these sites.

I have way too many that want me. So I am very lucky I guess.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose; 1346032]Thanks to everybody for your thoughtful replies regarding the dating scene in Thailand, ex dating sites. With only a short visit, and a lack of understanding of Thai culture (which, I can appreciate, is much more complex than it may seem to a foreigner) I think I'll stick to mongering for now. The language issue has also tripped me up before, even in places where the women are generally much more receptive to being approached than here in the West.

I will be arriving in BKK on November 18th, staying at the Nana Hotel for three nights, then heading to Pattya on the 21st for two nights, staying at the Penthouse. Thanks again for all the great info, and hit me up if you'd like to catch up for a beer and / or you have any interest whatsoever in latinas in Central and South America, but weren't sure who to ask!

Blue Nose[/QUOTE]Exactly what I thought, You can't learn the culture (if that is even your goal) by visiting Bangkok and Pattaya. This is the typical trip of a *****monger.

My guess is that you will not return to Thailand, no way, especially seeing the places your staying at.

You could not have picked Worse accommodation (I wonder who suggested you these hotels) :

Nana hotel? Overpriced shithole, dirty as can be: a place to Avoid.

Penthouse? Seriously? You're going to a place that is notorious for having mostly Ladyboys?

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1346224]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them. And this is just off one site, Thai Lovelinks.

Who are you? If you are dirty looking, poor, asking for sex upfront, maybe a non-white (many girls just want farang) , you may have issues meeting girls on these sites.

I have way too many that want me. So I am very lucky I guess.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you on this one. It is all about how you present yourself. Creating a profile is like advertising and you have to write somewhat surprising or "outside the box" to get attention from females bcs some of them get thousands of mails and interest / favorites addings. I try to write something to draw attention in the headline of my profile. I did write I hate prostitution and girls asking for money and / or support. I did even add I don't want girls with babies and they did have to come from / live in Bangkok. And I have to say I have got quite a lot of responses (even without me contacting them first). This is for my TLL profile. I have a feeling or atleast my impression of TLL are that girls here are a bit more genuine than in DateinAsia (DIA) and Thaifriendly (TF).

For my DIA and TF profiles I leave a more open minded feel to the girls when they read so everyone can feel free to respond. Here it is me mostly contacting the girls. I feel the TF site consists of more P4P girls than the rest (my own experience) and DIA sth in between (more LB's in DIA). I don't have the same profilename in any of the 3 sites. I have been busted once from one TLL girl but then it is just moving on.

Discussions about my financial status, living arrangements, arrivel time and so on I leave out until I need to present sth. This from tactical reasons so I can twist these arrangements into what I feel the girls need to hear. For obvious reasons I will not tell a non P4P I mostly stay in Soi 11 as normal Bangkok girls would not even set their foot in that area. Maby once in a while they will BTS themself between some of the shoppingmalls in the area but that is it. So when I am relatively sure they are not P4P and they want to meet up I will travel outside the worst monger area. If I can smell the pussy i will even change hotel to a outside sex area in BKK..

One good advice (atleast it works for me) is to twist communication in a direction stating you have relatively short time in BKK (or wherever you might stay). This will leave some preasure on the girls and since you leave shortly (this don't necessarily have to be true) you can get pussy service (outside the normal timeframe regarding traditional Thaigirls) as the girl most likely want you to remember them (you have to be tactical in how you play this game) and not will keep you wait until you come back. Sometimes this works and sometimes not.

So to Blue Nose: If you get girl to inroom visit you in Nana Hotel and / or PH Hotel (Pattis) you don't even have to wonder if the girls are P4P bcs they most certainly are. No question about it. Do not matter what their profile state. A non P4P traditional normal working girl would never ever come to that area. Even hotel staffs in that area I feel you can meet up with for mongering action purposes but they will expect some sort of compensation, hehe.

I just turned 40yrs:-)

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1346224]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them.[/QUOTE]I'm younger than you; I have the same experience. I'm only on one of the big sites. I get 2 to 5 messages a day. Girls contacting me, not replying. Most are non-pros. Unfortunately it's useless; very few of them are beautiful. I have had the account for a long time but I met almost no one from there.

Is TLL better?

I will make this short as I am just getting started. Arrived last night and went to my hotel of choice, LL. Was greated at the street and happily welcomed. After unpacking I needed to find some food. Went down to the bar and magic happened. I found a lady there who I had gotten to know last December. I remembered her and she even knew my name. Had the recomended susage roll with mashed and vegetable. Highly recommended. At that point I needed some relax time and off I went with my lady friend in hand. She had never disappointed before and this time was a success also.

Today need to clean up the body and I have an appontment. More details to follow after the day is over.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1346226]Exactly what I thought, You can't learn the culture (if that is even your goal) by visiting Bangkok and Pattaya. This is the typical trip of a *monger.

My guess is that you will not return to Thailand, no way, especially seeing the places your staying at.

You could not have picked Worse accommodation (I wonder who suggested you these hotels) :

Nana hotel? Overpriced shithole, dirty as can be: a place to Avoid.

Penthouse? Seriously? You're going to a place that is notorious for having mostly Ladyboys?[/QUOTE]Well, I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is a purpose of the trip, given that this is, after all, a site dedicated to that sort of pursuit. Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited. If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?

[QUOTE=Mackin;1346407]Had the recomended susage roll with mashed and vegetable. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Be very careful when promoting the Sausage at LL, I did that before and that Bestard Giotto said I was too much into sausages and stuff.

Next time, try the Beef Roulade or Even the new Pasta Dishes! As much as I like to give that old Austrian Kurt Wagner some Grief, his food isn't all that bad.

Actually I try and stop in every trip because I quite like the thai food in the sports bar accompanied by an ice cold singha or chang. I've had a lot of authenthic food in various parts of Thailand and the LL chef seems to stick to dishing out fairly tasty and genuine thai dishes!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1346413]Be very careful when promoting the Sausage at LL, I did that before and that Bestard Giotto said I was too much into sausages and stuff.

Next time, try the Beef Roulade or Even the new Pasta Dishes! As much as I like to give that old Austrian Kurt Wagner some Grief, his food isn't all that bad.[/QUOTE]

Lately, I've been seeing a lot of fake profiles on Thai Friendly. It's either their English is too good or the profile is trying too hard to sound like Broken English, its pretty obvious.

Having said that, I ventured a few days in the early evening with time to kill and tried to find a decent free lancer, but nothing was to be found in the neighborhood of Gulliver's and beer garden. It was nothing but a sausage fest of beer drinkers, pool shooters, and not a lot of girls at either location.

Ran into a hot street walker while heading to Insomnia, I messaged her the next day and her reply was how much you give me? Never a good sign as it seems they try to see if you will offer more than they're willing to accept. I asked how much you want, and she said 2k. I countered 1K. She said NO. Ok. 1.5K. NO. LOL

LT was 4K and she wouldn't budge on either ST or LT fees. Not sure where all the hot 1k baht girls are. Pattaya? LOL

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1346451]Lately, I've been seeing a lot of fake profiles on Thai Friendly. It's either their English is too good or the profile is trying too hard to sound like Broken English, its pretty obvious.

Ran into a hot street walker while heading to Insomnia, I messaged her the next day and her reply was how much you give me? Never a good sign as it seems they try to see if you will offer more than they're willing to accept. I asked how much you want, and she said 2k. I countered 1K. She said NO. Ok. 1.5K. NO. LOL

LT was 4K and she wouldn't budge on either ST or LT fees. Not sure where all the hot 1k baht girls are. Pattaya? LOL[/QUOTE]So what do the pictures of the ladyboy have to do with any of this?

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1346256]I'm younger than you; I have the same experience. I'm only on one of the big sites. I get 2 to 5 messages a day. Girls contacting me, not replying. Most are non-pros. Unfortunately it's useless; very few of them are beautiful. I have had the account for a long time but I met almost no one from there.

Is TLL better?[/QUOTE]Like I said before, you have to stay on it. It takes time and some work.

Many of the lookers get 30-40 dudes a day messaging them. So you have to keep messaging, get their personal emails, or even phone numbers.

Also, if you really think she seems hot enough, make a commitment. Tell her,"I will be in BKK on this date, want to meet for a coffee or drink". I have never had a Thai girl not show if you get her to commit.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1346453]So what do the pictures of the ladyboy have to do with any of this?[/QUOTE]That's the gal who asked for 2k ST and 4K LT. Not a ladyboy.

I believe she's a regular at Thermae.

[QUOTE=Nick Depalma;1346053]Been to BKK, time of my life. Making a trip to lisbon / spain; was wondering if fellow experienced mongers to BKK ever been to that area. Can't get any response in that forum. Forgive me for a displaced post. Cheers brothers.[/QUOTE]HAHA. I was going to post something because I am in Lisbon now visiting a distant relative. This place is not even close to Thailand. A waste for mongering really. The only thing this place has truly is ADS in the newspaper for escorts / Incall or outall. If you are white man they seem to want 100 E, or more. But I have to say these are some of the ugliest women I have seen. Unfriendly, Unibrows, big noses, fat asses, with cigarettes hanging fom their mouths. I am not impressed with the women and the way the Portugese men drive, they appear to be sexually frustrated.

I found Spain to be better. They have some decent clubs and bars with rooms out back and the girls seem much prettier and friendlier to me. They also have the ADS in the papers for escorts.

I have not seen a massage parlor in Lisbon. I did see some SW's, but they were all very fat and black crack working girl looking. I asked several taxi drivers about SW's and they said" we don't have, it is illegal". OK, whatever.

I am sure somebody will get on here and tell us how great these places are. I don't see it at all. So again, if you are looking for BKK type action and prices, forget it. These places are not even close.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346409]Well,Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited.[/QUOTE]Much true, but in a seven day trip in LOS, you can meet quite many girls and go deeper into a certain type of culture.

My suggestions for BKK hotels? Livingstone Lodge (Soi 33) and Mjestic Grande (Soi 2, just behind Nana hotel, more respectable)

Pattaya: not my area of action. I might go to PH if ever going there (the LB matter is a side issue, the hotel is not infested by LB, maybe the club is) but certainly not to meet DIA girls there.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1346451]Having said that, I ventured a few days in the early evening with time to kill and tried to find a decent free lancer, but nothing was to be found in the neighborhood of Gulliver's and beer garden. It was nothing but a sausage fest of beer drinkers, pool shooters, and not a lot of girls at either location.[/QUOTE]I'd rather try my luck with the Nana Parking Lot, soi 3 down to the Grace Hotel, soi 4 up to the 7-11, then over to Annies, and Sukhumvit from soi 3 & 4 to Soi Cowboy.

If you can't find anything worthwhile there in the evening:

1) the BIB may have just done a sweep or

2) it's due to some sort of holiday or religious festival or.

3) heavy rainfall has caused them to scurry away or.

4) you missed all the hotties. Better luck next time.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1346451]Ran into a hot street walker while heading to Insomnia, I messaged her the next day and her reply was how much you give me? Never a good sign as it seems they try to see if you will offer more than they're willing to accept. I asked how much you want, and she said 2k. I countered 1K. She said NO. Ok. 1.5K. NO. LOL

LT was 4K and she wouldn't budge on either ST or LT fees. Not sure where all the hot 1k baht girls are. Pattaya? LOL[/QUOTE]Not my cup of tea, though if she works regularly at Thermae the Japanese may feel differently. Around the NPL, from what your pics showed of her, she wouldn't perk my interest, even at 500 baht ST.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]That's the gal who asked for 2k ST and 4K LT. Not a ladyboy.

I believe she's a regular at Thermae.[/QUOTE]RAMMSTEIN. Engel. (HD)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcl-7MSfEaU&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/url]

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1346256]I'm younger than you; I have the same experience. I'm only on one of the big sites. I get 2 to 5 messages a day. Girls contacting me, not replying. Most are non-pros. Unfortunately it's useless; very few of them are beautiful. I have had the account for a long time but I met almost no one from there.

Is TLL better?[/QUOTE]I'd say they are all hit and miss. Personally, it isn't worth it to me to spend loads of time on dating sites. The girls that are looking for sponsors or cash, I'd far rather see what I'm getting up front and not play any games, just pay and be happy, no need for the BS or waste of time. The ones that are "good girls" if one is looking for a GF. Well, huge numbers of them cannot speak English well enough for what I want in a relationship. I can speak decent Thai but in terms of a GF, no way been there done that. Also huge numbers of them do not look in person what the picture they posted was. I've met a few girls that I have dated anda few that I have become friends with after seeing that they didn't attract me physically in person. I would say this, if you meet a regular girl who is looking for a boyfriend / husband and you end up using her for a shag or low cost fun, all you are doing is making a more negative image of foreigners here amongst regular girls.

It is also very obvious when you spend time online which ones are busy chatting to hundreds of guys, which ones are players, and which ones really have any interest in real communication or pursuing some initial contact something further. Again, if you live here full or most of the time and want a GF and find a decent one, by all means pursue it. If you want a good root, quit trying to pretend that she is a good girl or that she doesn't want money and just go down to Sukhumvit, pay some cash, and get what you came for.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346409]Well, I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is a purpose of the trip, given that this is, after all, a site dedicated to that sort of pursuit. Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited. If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?[/QUOTE]I do agree with the feedback you are getting on hotel choices. I recommend doing your hotel research on web sites like trip advisor and wotif. That way you can plug in your own criteria about price and amenities etc. I do know that wotif allows you to search only Sukhumvit hotels and expect that trip advisor would too. Of course there are hotel threads here on ISG but I think the research would take longer and leave out too many possibilities.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1346578]I do agree with the feedback you are getting on hotel choices. I recommend doing your hotel research on web sites like trip advisor and wotif. That way you can plug in your own criteria about price and amenities etc. I do know that wotif allows you to search only Sukhumvit hotels and expect that trip advisor would too. Of course there are hotel threads here on ISG but I think the research would take longer and leave out too many possibilities.[/QUOTE]All has to do also with the hotel budget the guy has set and this we do not know, so difficult to address him.

I personally run with a comfortable hotel budget and I would not even look at at 1500b / night option, others might rate it overspending.

Rates of 3000b. Night (or a bit below) give good choices and this is my target.

As usual each one his own.

Am at Dream hotel, Mid way along Salaviki street with above grond subway. Near Asok station. Soi Cowboy is 5 blocks away. It is only one block long. Many clubs and girls. Have not taken and from there. Up street is soi15 hotel. Go towards nana plaza 50 feet and entrance to bar down low right corner. Only bar where seen this set up. Guys in middle, girls circle around and you pick. Then many on street in this area. Have been to nana plaza. Lady boy clubs third level. Learned hard way. First floor many gogos. Then on soi 4 many beer bars. Hillary 2 is pool and no bar fine. Hillarys 4 is bigger with 500 baht barfine. Had girl name the for 3 days. Wanted me to go meet perants, I said I still have to pay bar fine. She of course. Me next. Have not seen since. But total freak in bed. 38 yrs old. Solid body. 3 kids. Another bar Bankok beat I think soi 7 was fun. Pool tables upstairs. Went to Annies, Cabbage Condom resturant, [ food is good ] all tourist things. I have never felt threatened in this country. These are friendly people. Women keep figure well into 30's. To soon to come to judgements. Leave in two days. Am glad it has been done. Medicail here seems to notch compared to many places. Phrmacys sell antibitocs and Vigra over counter. If I live long enough I shall return. Hope this gives some help. RED

You where in Thermae which sort of caters to the Japanese / Koreans. Not with standing that; one can still get lucky.

[QUOTE=Redman69;1346650]Snipped . Go towards nana plaza 50 feet and entrance to bar down low right corner. Only bar where seen this set up. Guys in middle, girls circle around and you pick. Snipped RED[/QUOTE]

GS.

Thanks a lot for the information in your post. During my last visit to BKK in Feb 12, I checked out both grace and rajah but did not like the setting that much. Its kinda awkward to sit in spacious place and gawk around like an idiot!

Does anyone know if one has to use the girls room for ST or you need ro rent one? Or can one take them out.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1343274]This information is about 6 months old when I last visited BKK?

Most of them are Central Asians Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz and Georgians.

Street walkers on and around Sukhumvit generally cost the same I. E. BHT 1000-2000 ST. They are generally 3-4/10 and mostly past there sell by date. Some claim to be from Morocco and ask for BHT 2K-3K. Moroccans are hot favourite of Arabs. I cannot speak Arabic and as such cannot confirm if they are really from Morocco or not.

In Grace Hotel they may ask between BHT 3000 – 5000 ST. Quality is definitely better than street and almost all of them are Uzbeks or local Thais or rarely South American. Remember Grace Hotel is full of super rich Arabs.

In CM2 night club in Novotel in Silom they range from BHT 5000 to BHT 10000 LT. Quality is very good and mostly Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz, Mongolians, Turks and may be some Russians / Ukrainians. You may also find blacks and local Thais. In CM2 local Thais may ask for BHT 4k and my go for BHT 3K.

I think you can find them another club called 'Boss' or 'Bossy' with quality and rates comparable to CM2. I have never been there,

In Rajeah hotel on Soi 4 may cost BHT 2500. Quality is reasonable but you have to use their room in the hotel.

Please note that prices also depend upon time of the day and your bargaining skill and I must admit that I am not very good at that.

Why they cost more.

They are not as common as locals and generally people like what they do not have. You will notice most Europeans going after Thai girls particularly from Issan province (darker in colour) where as Thais going after fairer colour locals.

Warning.

CIS may ask for money up front and they are famous for converting LT to ST I. E. Leaving after two / three hours. So be careful when you negotiate the deal and clarify everything in job interview.

Therefore, best policy is not to pay upfront.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1346238]I have to agree with you on this one. It is all about how you present yourself. Creating a profile is like advertising and you have to write somewhat surprising or "outside the box" to get attention from females bcs some of them get thousands of mails and interest / favorites addings. I try to write something to draw attention in the headline of my profile. I did write I hate prostitution and girls asking for money and / or support. I did even add I don't want girls with babies and they did have to come from / live in Bangkok. And I have to say I have got quite a lot of responses (even without me contacting them first). This is for my TLL profile. I have a feeling or atleast my impression of TLL are that girls here are a bit more genuine than in DateinAsia (DIA) and Thaifriendly (TF).

For my DIA and TF profiles I leave a more open minded feel to the girls when they read so everyone can feel free to respond. Here it is me mostly contacting the girls. I feel the TF site consists of more P4P girls than the rest (my own experience) and DIA sth in between (more LB's in DIA). I don't have the same profilename in any of the 3 sites. I have been busted once from one TLL girl but then it is just moving on.

Discussions about my financial status, living arrangements, arrivel time and so on I leave out until I need to present sth. This from tactical reasons so I can twist these arrangements into what I feel the girls need to hear. For obvious reasons I will not tell a non P4P I mostly stay in Soi 11 as normal Bangkok girls would not even set their foot in that area. Maby once in a while they will BTS themself between some of the shoppingmalls in the area but that is it. So when I am relatively sure they are not P4P and they want to meet up I will travel outside the worst monger area. If I can smell the pussy I will even change hotel to a outside sex area in BKK.

One good advice (atleast it works for me) is to twist communication in a direction stating you have relatively short time in BKK (or wherever you might stay). This will leave some preasure on the girls and since you leave shortly (this don't necessarily have to be true) you can get pussy service (outside the normal timeframe regarding traditional Thaigirls) as the girl most likely want you to remember them (you have to be tactical in how you play this game) and not will keep you wait until you come back. Sometimes this works and sometimes not.

So to Blue Nose: If you get girl to inroom visit you in Nana Hotel and / or PH Hotel (Pattis) you don't even have to wonder if the girls are P4P bcs they most certainly are. No question about it. Do not matter what their profile state. A non P4P traditional normal working girl would never ever come to that area. Even hotel staffs in that area I feel you can meet up with for mongering action purposes but they will expect some sort of compensation, hehe.

I just turned 40yrs.[/QUOTE]Congratulations with your birthday.

Did you gave yourself a nice (sexy) surprise party?

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346409]Well, I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is a purpose of the trip, given that this is, after all, a site dedicated to that sort of pursuit. Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited.[/quote]REad your original post again, these were your words.

[quote]If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?[/QUOTE]I'm not travel agent but I can tell you this:

BKK: Try the SOLO hotel: [url]http://www.solohotelsresorts.com/[/url] (you can get a room there for under 2000 thb) it's a stones throw to Annies and Nana Plaza.

Pattaya: I usually stay at Dusit but that may be over your budget

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1346238]So to Blue Nose: If you get girl to inroom visit you in Nana Hotel and / or PH Hotel (Pattis) you don't even have to wonder if the girls are P4P bcs they most certainly are. No question about it. Do not matter what their profile state. A non P4P traditional normal working girl would never ever come to that area. Even hotel staffs in that area I feel you can meet up with for mongering action purposes but they will expect some sort of compensation, hehe.

I just turned 40yrs.[/QUOTE]I agree with almost everything in the post except the part that I have quoted. When I first started coming to Thailand I would always stay at the Nana Hotel. It is a total shit hole and definitely not worth the 1200 baht or whatever they are charging these days. In the days that I was staying there many women who I met online visited me there. These women had decent jobs and some of them had cars. Only 1 ever said anything about money. And that was well after. She told me that if I wanted her to continue to visit me and not go to her job (hairdresser of course) then I would need to give her money. I 86ed her. Most recently I think it was Nic who posted a few CL ads. I contacted one of the girls. I thought she was full of shit because hey, it's CL. She has a University degree, a car, a good job, but she is looking for someone. I stay in the Ibis these days if I am in BKK. Hey she showed up and everything was on the up and up. She was not a P4P girl or a scammer after all. Might I add that most of the women who I met on TLL and came to visit me while staying in the Nana Hotel I am still friends with and even still intimate friends with a few. I am 40 years old as well.

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1346705]GS.

I checked out both grace and rajah but did not like the setting that much. Its kinda awkward to sit in spacious place and gawk around like an idiot!

Does anyone know if one has to use the girls room for ST or you need ro rent one? Or can one take them out.[/QUOTE]The answer is in the report you referred to:

[quote]Rajah hotel on Soi 4 may cost BHT 2500. [b] [red]Quality is reasonable but you have to use their room in the hotel.[/red] [/b][/quote]

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1346866]The answer is in the report you referred to:[/QUOTE]Thanks for replying Bionicman. I did notice the entry but wanted it to be congirmed by someone else. I doubt if those girls can insist on hotel room and there was no sign of hotel management enforcing it when I visited them.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1346226]You could not have picked Worse accommodation (I wonder who suggested you these hotels) :

Nana hotel? Overpriced shithole, dirty as can be: a place to Avoid.

Penthouse? Seriously? You're going to a place that is notorious for having mostly Ladyboys?[/QUOTE]It seems that even 5 star hotels are subject to extremely dangerous "dirt", probably moreso in Thailand than in Canada:

" 'Superbug' bacteria found in tested hotel rooms"

"Potentially deadly antibiotic-resistant 'superbugs, ' including C. Difficile and methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus, were among the disturbing findings uncovered in a CBC Marketplace test conducted in dozens of hotel rooms across the country.

"In a comprehensive survey, Marketplace did a battery of tests in 54 hotel rooms across six major hotel chains, testing for bacterial contamination and other potential health hazards.

"Results revealed varying levels of dirt and contamination, but every hotel contained some form of antibiotic-resistant bacteria."

". The USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that MRSA kills over 15, 000 Americans each year, even more than AIDS."

[url]http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/[/url]

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[QUOTE=Margaya;1347011]Thanks for replying Bionicman. I did notice the entry but wanted it to be congirmed by someone else. I doubt if those girls can insist on hotel room and there was no sign of hotel management enforcing it when I visited them.[/QUOTE]Hotel management doesn't care too much. There is often a guy sitting opposite the main entrance, with a dark grey baseball cap, a Thai, just out the Annie's bar (not the soapie!) : he is a pimp an will offer you to visit the girls. When he proposed me I said I don't like Russians. He smiled full face as he never mentioned Russian. He knew I knew, LOL. Sometime you can see one of the girls shopping at the nearby 7-11, or even breathing some fresh air outside the lobby, especially at a late hour.

This time I have a non mongering question and relates to the possibility to watch in some BKK bar a major and international sport event taking place at 2 a. M. BKK time. Most bars close at 1 or 2am, so that is past the closing time.

Has anyone knowledge of anything opened in that early hrs and with TV on? Have a friend who is in BKK one week on Sunday and he doesn't want to miss the US F1 race live.

But what do they want to meet you for?

I have had a similar experience with tll but they all want to meet me with hopes of a long term relationship or marriage. I signed up there just to see who I'd meet and if the topic of sex does comes up, it's them who brought it up. I treat them all with the respect I would of someone I would where our relationship could end up being serious.

When I first signed up I was getting dozens of interests or emails a day, it's slowed down since though. My stats are the same as yours. I didn't go there looking for casual sex partners but someone here mentioned that the dating sites were filled with Asian women just looking to hook up but that wasn't my experience at all.

I figured if I was going there mongering anyway, if I could find a non pro who just wanted some good sex, we could have a mutually satisfying experience but like I said, all the women interested in me are looking for something other than just sex.

These women who are interested in you, are the looking for relationships, or NSA sex?

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1346224]You bring up a good question. I am white, in my late 50's, in good shape, have a lot of money, stay in nice hotels. Don't ask for sex upfront, etc. I have so many girls who want to meet me in Thailand, that I do not have the time to meet all of them. And this is just off one site, Thai Lovelinks.

Who are you? If you are dirty looking, poor, asking for sex upfront, maybe a non-white (many girls just want farang) , you may have issues meeting girls on these sites.

I have way too many that want me. So I am very lucky I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1347060]Has anyone knowledge of anything opened in that early hrs and with TV on? Have a friend who is in BKK one week on Sunday and he doesn't want to miss the US F1 race live.[/QUOTE]The Sportsman on Soi13 or any other sports bar I think would cover this event even at the late hour.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1347069]But what do they want to meet you for? .

When I first signed up I was getting dozens of interests or emails a day, it's slowed down since though. My stats are the same as yours. I didn't go there looking for casual sex partners but someone here mentioned that the dating sites were filled with Asian women just looking to hook up but that wasn't my experience at all.[/QUOTE]Don't underestimate the fact that someod those sites tend to hook up the the subscriber and also lure him into paid memberships. I noticed the same: at the beginning you get everyday contacts and some seemingly hot. Then all fades away into oblivion and no more mails. Same strategy as FB. I had an old account and didn't use it for two years. Recently I entered FB with it again, and all of a sudden FB writes me that I should get this and this friend, visit, blah blah. Part of the FB software tricks, nothing else.

[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun;1347089]The Sportsman on Soi13 or any other sports bar I think would cover this event even at the late hour.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the prompt info.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1347123]I noticed the same: at the beginning you get everyday contacts and some seemingly hot. Then all fades away into oblivion and no more mails.[/QUOTE]I was with TLL, and I noticed that when you sign on every day then the interests keep coming, because you are on the "active" list, and the girls only look to see who is new or active. Once you don't sign on for a week or so then the interests drop to only one or zero a day. I have met several "non-pros" through TLL and have had good results, but it takes a lot of work to make it pay off. Some of the really hot ones are in villiages that are just too far to get to without a car. So I bought a car LOL.

[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun;1347089]The Sportsman on Soi13 or any other sports bar I think would cover this event even at the late hour.[/QUOTE]I have an overnight layover in BKK. I am estimating I could arrive in the city between 1:00am and 2:00 am. I would have to retrun to the airport around 8:00am. My understanding is the soapies and the gogo's will be closed or closing by then. I have seen references to after-hours places but I haven't been able to locate any specifics. Any suggestions how to spend an overnight in BKK (besides watching the F1 race from Austin)?

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1345049]Renoir closed on 30. 10. 12. After 26 years in business. Gone. A good indication what's going on here in the road.

Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Hello Giotto,

I also heard that Christies (some owner I believe?) will be closing at the end of this month and then re-opening as a coyote bar. All the current ladies will be replaced.

BTW, do you know where the ladies from Renoir went?

Thanks very much,

Malcolm

][QUOTE=Harold444;1346615]You need to wait till its time regarding December rent. Thats when the 5000 baht short time hot prostitutes will wander the streets and go with you for 1000Baht.[/QUOTE]A well thought out strategy sir.

I think rent these girls be paying is right around the 5k baht range. Not sure if that includes free wifi

Hey everyone,

I on a trip to Pattaya and BKK again. This is my 6th time there. I have been reading this forum from quite some time now, though never posted any info. I would do that from now on and I am buying a subscription too.

I have had a lot of Thai women and this time would want to taste some Pakistan or Bangla babes. I know it sounds awkward to ask for it in Thailand for Paki chicks, but couple of times I have heard from arab tourists that they get them and are great in bed. I can second that opinon as I have had some Indian, paki and bangla chicks during my stay in India and oh Man, they are real horny, energetic, voluptious and never get tired. I love that wheatish complexion.

I am not asking for the chicks lurking around the Arab area. Soi 4-5. They aint paki's.

I have RTFF, so if you are one of those, who asks every one to do that, thanks, I do not need that advice. I have also searched in other places and.

Could not get proper info, so trying my luck here as the most experienced are found here.

To end, thanks to everyone for keeping the thread active posting so much of useful informtion. I promise I would make contributions with my 2 cents! Whenever I can with whateva I know.

Gringo

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1347153]I have an overnight layover in BKK. I am estimating I could arrive in the city between 1:00am and 2:00 am. I would have to retrun to the airport around 8:00am. My understanding is the soapies and the gogo's will be closed or closing by then. I have seen references to after-hours places but I haven't been able to locate any specifics. Any suggestions how to spend an overnight in BKK (besides watching the F1 race from Austin)?[/QUOTE]Can only suggest the freelancers around Nana and lower Sukhumvit. 2am is also when NEP girls end their work at the gogo's ans ready for a last round.

Lots of mobile bars are open too on the sidewalks of sukhumvit till soi cowboy area.

They all have girls too for a pick up and surely know the ST hotels nearby. Just be aware there is a good percentage of LB's in some bars, if that is not your choice.

Maybe you can make a deal for 2-3 hours and your night is done, as maybe one hour goes in selecting the girl and taking it easy.

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1347153]I have an overnight layover in BKK. I am estimating I could arrive in the city between 1:00am and 2:00 am.(snip) Any suggestions how to spend an overnight in BKK (besides watching the F1 race from Austin)?[/QUOTE]The gogo's close at 2 am. So if you can make it either to NEP or Soi cowboy before 2 am, you can get a chick and take her to a short time hotel (they are so many around, ask her).

Regards,

A

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1346633]And finally.

Number 5. There are just not a whole lot of attractive girls walking the streets. I mean short time rates of 1000 and below. If I were an in demand (pretty) girl I surely wouldn't want to work for 1000 baht, [/QUOTE]Generally there aren't a whole lot of attractive girls in any place. And where there are you wouldn't want to go or can't take them.

So why do you think attractive girls work the streets, instead of a bar, gogo, beergarden, thermae or MP?

Some of them have been doing this for years.

Some of them used to work in the gogos or elsewhere & still could if they wanted to. But they don't.

Is it because they are just stupid?

I don't think so. There are various reasons why attractive P4P gals prefer to work the streets. Try talking to them sometime & find out.

Mate,

I would go with what bionic said. U can find several short term hotels once you find your companion. I would recommend any of the niteclubs / discos that been mentioned on this thread. Bangkok Beat, Climax, Insomnia, CM2, Mixx, Shock, Bossy to meet FL's Some of the GoGo's are open till 3 am too both in NEP and in Cowboy so you could start there and if nothing catchies your fancy then move to either the street scene as recommended by Bionic or then hit the clubs and find your company for a few hrs.

BKK is one of the best cities in asia for midnight fun with the clubs staying open till the wee hours of the morning.

Happy hunting mate and sleep is for the weak.

Cheers.

JSS.

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1347153]I have an overnight layover in BKK. I am estimating I could arrive in the city between 1:00am and 2:00 am. I would have to retrun to the airport around 8:00am. My understanding is the soapies and the gogo's will be closed or closing by then. I have seen references to after-hours places but I haven't been able to locate any specifics. Any suggestions how to spend an overnight in BKK (besides watching the F1 race from Austin)?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?[/QUOTE]If you're planning to stay at the Nana Hotel, I assume you want to stay near the Nana Plaza. There are several hotels in that area that I recommend over the Nana:

Phachara Suites. Soi 6, steps from Nana BTS and Soi Nana. Big suites with kitchenette. Great location convenient to BTS and NEP; nice pool; easy to get taxi to BKK. One BR "Executive" 3, 200. My favorite place in BKK.

Dynasty Grande: Across the street from the Phachara Suites. Grand Deluxe SUITE is nice at about 2, 300 w / advance pmnt and 100% cancellation penalty.

Omni Tower. East side of Soi 4, south of Soi 6. One BR "premier" with kitchenette, wi-fi, *W / D* for 2, 700.

In Pattaya I recommended staying in the central part of town if you're a newbie. From there you can walk to Soi LK Metro. Southbound baht buses will take you to Walking Street. Northbound baht buses will take you to Soi 6. There are TONS of hotels in this area, in ALL price ranges. Here are some of my favorites:

On Soi 13, which is about as convenient as it gets:

Whitehouse Condotel. Deluxe room with kitchenette and balcony looks is nice.

Inn House Hotel, just down the street from the Whitehouse

Sandy Spring on Soi 13. Seaview suite at 2, 800. Regular suite 2, 500.

Closer to Soi LK Metro and east of Second Road:

LK Renaissance. Superb location in Central Pattaya. Both Deluxe Room and One BR suite offer kitchenettes. One BR is truly huge. High season rates of about 3100 for the deluxe and 3900 for the suite.

LK Mansion. East side of Soi Buakaow, not far from night market. &8223; Serviced apartment' model. Only one type of room, the Junior Deluxe, but its value for money.

Hotel Areca, on Soi Diana just east of 2d Road. Crawling distance to the Soi LK Metro Scene.

This close to your trip it's going to be a challenge to book a room as high season is looming. But you can do better than the Nana and the Penthouse.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1347153]I have an overnight layover in BKK. I am estimating I could arrive in the city between 1:00am and 2:00 am. I would have to retrun to the airport around 8:00am. My understanding is the soapies and the gogo's will be closed or closing by then.[/QUOTE]Hi,

There are some places open in Soi Cowboy until 3:00 am.

Regards.

BJ

Dawin down the street on soi 4 is a clean option.

Has pool and breakfast is good

[QUOTE=Gringo A;1347207]I have had a lot of Thai women and this time would want to taste some Pakistan or Bangla babes. I know it sounds awkward to ask for it in Thailand for Paki chicks, but couple of times I have heard from arab tourists that they get them and are great in bed. I can second that opinon as I have had some Indian, paki and bangla chicks during my stay in India and oh Man, they are real horny, energetic, voluptious and never get tired. I love that wheatish complexion.[/QUOTE]Have'nt seen or heard about availibility of such kinds anywhere around Sukhumvit. Try India, to be specific Kolkatta city, though cannot assure you the quality and the exorbitant prices they'd quote if you are not a native there.

If you are in a place only to monger, I think its foolish to go to some country expecting to find women from another.

Regards.

A

[QUOTE=Gringo A; 1347207]Hey everyone,

I have had a lot of Thai women and this time would want to taste some Pakistan or Bangla babes. I know it sounds awkward to ask for it in Thailand for Paki chicks, but couple of times I have heard from arab tourists that they get them and are great in bed. I can second that opinon as I have had some Indian, paki and bangla chicks during my stay in India and oh Man, they are real horny, energetic, voluptious and never get tired. I love that wheatish complexion.

I am not asking for the chicks lurking around the Arab area. Soi 4-5. They aint paki's.

Gringo[/QUOTE]You trust the Arabs? When they say they have had them in BKK. Very doubtfull you would find them there.

BTW: Paki is a derogatory term in lot of places. So be nice if you are going to fuck them.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1347741]BTW: Paki is a derogatory term in lot of places. So be nice if you are going to fuck them.[/QUOTE]Yes, very derogatory, so even if unintentionnal this can be perceived as offensive. Better avoid this term. Actually in some countries, shouting this term publicly at somebody might get you into trouble with the police.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1347511]Whatevere there reason for walking the street isn't really relevant. What is relevant is their pricing-1000 baht and less. Thats all one needs to know.[/QUOTE]I've had experience with Bangkok streetwalkers every year since 2007 and can tell you that the price for the attractive girls was not "1000 baht and less". Neither was it 1000 baht OR less. In no case IME was it ever less than 1000 baht and they often demanded more than that.

As for the relevance of why they walk the street, this was directed to your comment that if you were an attractive streetwalker you wouldn't want to work for 1000 baht.

Powerful earthquake hits Myanmar, felt in Bangkok:

[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/6-6-magnitude-quake-hits-Myanmar-felt-in-Bangkok-30194091.html[/url]

"Several Twitter users in Bangkok, who live on highrise buildings, posted messages that they felt their buildings swaying at the time of quake."

In a way you could call it little Bangkok as almost everything that you have in Bangkok nightlife can all be found in Soi 7/1 now. Roads like the now dying Soi 33 were the hostess road, Soi Cowboy and Nana plaza are the go-go bar places so Soi 7/1 if there is such a thing is the specialist in not being specialist or giving you a bit of everything.

By this Christmas besides the buildings not being used which there are only 3 of now once you get into the main part of the Soi everything but Crazy hot bar will be new or refurbed at least.

From the top down.

1. Star Inn.

Needs a clean but OK prices. Has a 24 hour oil massage place out the front. Has a few nice looking ladies about 5 in total at any given time. Not sure if a few might be lady boys or not but please correct me if I am wrong. It Has a gazebo or frontage for rent, could be a nice place for BBQ eating area or maybe a small coffee shop or bar area.

2. Real massage.

(Hong Massage Seems to be it's name). This place is owned by the same people who run Tarntip massage. It will not offer extras. It is due to open soon, looks very nice inside and takes over 2 buildings.

3. Trippe 1 restaurant.

A rather big project for a restaurant on this street. It spans a 3 building area and will be on 2 floors including a lavish mezzanine floor. According to signs will have Japanese, Thai, western, Indian, plus other food styles, so surely something to please everyone. I hope this works out for them as I am fairly lazy and if I can buy such a variety of food that is of a good quality and right on my doorstep it will be great for me. By the looks of it, it will be nice inside so best of luck to them. The outside wooden fascia looks very nice indeed so I am hoping this gives a hint as to the quality and level of professionalism when they do open.

4. Down Under Bar.

My old favorite. Owned by 2 nice Australian chaps (yes they do exist) , I spend many a Saturday or Sunday evening there watching football. Can be super busy and super quiet, always packed when there is some major Australian sporting event going on like the Melbourne cup recently. Always worth a visit for a few beers. They Started doing Fish and chips not so long back, don't like the chips much but got to say the fish was pretty good for the price, although I admit I am guilty of comparing the fish here to the traditional fish we get back in the U. K chip shop's.

5. Dr BJ's Nuru.

Number 2 of the soon to be 7 outlet chain. Specializing in body to body Nuru massage which is a gel from Japan, has some nice ladies and pretty medium price. New rooms, included are from small Japanese style rooms to larger more western style V. I. P rooms. Open from 11:00 to 1:00am.

6. Dr BJ's Budget Bangers.

(please indulge me with your comments, those of you who have availed yourselves of the services here). Cheapest full service place in the area with a very straightforward and easy to understand pricing structure. Got off to a slow start but picking up momentum now. Not the largest selection of ladies you will see, so book ahead from the website. Very nice rooms and very competitively priced. Good reviews so far but anything can happen in the next half hour. I am confident business on this one will pick up soon as change of tactics might be in order, as all our more expensive places get a lot more customers. Hoping the cheaper end guys start to move in soon. Any feedback for the venue please email direct. Of course for the price, no models but great service and unrivaled value for money. Open 10:00/1:00am.

7. Best Value inn.

Simple looking smaller hotel with restaurant frontage as well as small hours massage parlor built in. Have to say I have never been in or tried any of it, never seems that busy but I am sure it has a regular set of customers coming in from time to time. Ladies seem to try hard out the front and always have a smile.

8. Maxims Inn.

Was refurbed about 3 years ago I think. Clean, good price, has an expat following, what I mean by that is, expats who live in Thailand not Pattaya or Bangkok when they come to Bangkok seem to stay there a lot. Has it's own bar, restaurant as well as a small bar 'tony bar' situated outside run by a local as well selling late night cheap beers.

9. Pickled liver.

(British bar). Nice place for a quiet drink if you are looking to take it easy and have a conversation with a friend or two. Serves draught ales and lagers. Takes 2 buildings and nice frontage with a mezzanine floor with pool tables. Sells ok British food. You can order in from local restaurants as well. Many TV's showing live events as well as regular quiz nights. Can be very busy on quiz nights, a welcome break. Very new clean and smart inside. A favorite of many expats in Bangkok.

10. Sweet heart bar.

Mix of Lady-boys and women. Gets a party atmosphere going sometimes as I hear the bell being rung in there a lot. If you are into the lady-boy thing I am sure it hits the spot but not partaking I cannot comment objectively.

11. New hotel.

A 2 building frontage but 6 building upper area hotel. The owner told me he will get in 60 rooms, not sure how unless the rooms are like 1 square meter but I am sure there are smart ways of making use of the space you have. This will be finished by Christmas I think and will be the final place to be refurbed and re-opened on the Soi. I am not sure that this Soi or even Bangkok needs more hotels but if he has a nice theme and a good location (which he has) it may work.

12. Crazy hot bar.

One of the only places that will not be refurbed as far as I can tell. Nice owner, one day packed next day empty all day. Has a very regular set of customers all the time at the same time. One of the reasons I like this place is at some point in the week he blasts out some really funny and entertaining music, one of the high points of the week. I hope he manages to stay open as I am not sure how well his business is but it is a real character place.

13. Sip Song.

Owned by Sam of Tilac bar fame. Nice insides late night Karaoke / KTV bar. Multiple floors but only one building. Ladies outside. Not sure if KTV bar will work on this Soi but I am sure her regulars form the many places she owns will always come in. Last night I happily observed a load of very young very sweet looking ladies all walk in at once. Maybe interviews for new staff, lets hope so.

14. Dr BJ's salon.

1st of the DR Bjs chain. A blow job bar clean and 1 year old offering private rooms for all. Normally 30 staff on at any one time but get's pretty busy. Most of the BJ bar scene in Bangkok seem to be morning places but the Salon is a night time BJ bar place for some reason. That is not to say there are no customers in the day.

15. Magic Table.

A go-go bar in the mix. 3 buildings long and still going strong. Has a nice outside pool table area as well as glass floored go-go bar area inside. Normally 10-15 ladies of mixed quality on tap at reasonable prices. Give it a go, nice French owner / manager.

16. Eden Club.

The one time superstar like brothel in the thick of it all. Has seen better days but I will add seems to be on the up at the moment. I have seen some familiar old staff from another famous place turn up and it seems to have gone down well. Always liked Eden and I send customers and friends there from time to time.

17. Tarnthip massage.

A traditional massage place. I read on some forums that 1 girl in particular there gave extras so I went in and tried. Well she did not offer me anything and throughout the ok traditional oil massage she gave she spent all her time complaining to me about wanting to finish quick as she had a booking with another customer. She has now left I have been told and only traditional massage left.

18. Lady-boy massage.

(Plume massage it's called) or something like that. Loads of Lady-boys outside showing boards and speaking in deep voices asking for unsuspecting men to come in and try a bit of cock. Not my scene but what ever floats your boat.

19. Mario's Pizza.

When I walk past it sometimes it seems to me full of Indians all sitting around on tables drinking and eating pizza, another time you walk past it is closed. Not sure what is going on in there. Maybe it is so busy when it is open they can do without working for the rest of the week, or maybe it just is some meeting point for a lot of the Indian landlords around there who knows.

20. The internet shop.

Not a lot needs to be said here, internet access, printing, faxing and I think you can top up your phone.

21. New World Inn.

Has a nice French restaurant out the front and used to do great steaks. Last time I went I had a salad and a very very nice bottle of french red. Nice staff, OK rooms for the area and good price. At one point in time and humidor in it. Not sure if it is there still. Late night drinking here as well. Eden club used to use some of the rooms in the hotel if they overflowed not sure if it is the same arrangement now though.

22. Bangkok Beat.

Late night live music joint with freelancers. Even though very popular for all the right reasons, not my style of place as it is just too loud for me but I'm sure it is worth anyone's time to go in. Offers some great late night drinks deals also. I walked past on Saturday night en route to the Down Under bar and one of the touts outside was selling it on the basis of a ping-pong show inside. First time I was aware they offered this, may be a new addition but having never been in I cannot comment.

In summary the entire Soi has picked up in the past year and is a lot busier now. This trend is bound to continue with all the new places opened / opening soon. A wind of change has certainly blown through the place and for the better.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1348041]In a way you could call it little Bangkok as almost everything that you have in Bangkok nightlife can all be found in Soi 7/1 now. Roads like the now dying Soi 33 were the hostess road, Soi Cowboy and Nana plaza are the go-go bar places so Soi 7/1 if there is such a thing is the specialist in not being specialist or giving you a bit of everything.

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]A great overview on Soi 7/1, aka as Soi DrBJ, LOL.

Can't believe too that Bangkok Beat gas ping pong show. Maybe a scamming tout.

Hey, you forgot the Russian blondie at Subway. She is part of the furnitures.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1348245]A great overview on Soi 7/1, aka as Soi DrBJ, LOL.

Hey, you forgot the Russian blondie at Subway. She is part of the furnitures.[/QUOTE]I've had a drink in the Biergarden on soi 7, but where exactly is this soi 7/1, up an alley nearby? I don't recall seeing a Subway around there, except one on Sukhumvit. Streetwalkers along soi 3 & 4 & around sukh soi 5 is more my area of interest.

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Bangkok Streetwalker Stunner lookalike:

[url]http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/weird-talent/2gvc9hvc9?cpkey=9fa3f246-7925-443f-9c9d-f4194e44c7be[/url]

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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1348146]I stay at world inn quite a lot. No way is this an up and coming soi. Very few foot traffic as far as I can see. I mostly see thais coming and going and I doubt they are customers of anything. If you want more traffic get prettier girls.

Of course this might have changed in the last few days. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your customary helpful input Harold.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1348245]A great overview on Soi 7/1, aka as Soi DrBJ, LOL.

Can't believe too that Bangkok Beat gas ping pong show. Maybe a scamming tout.

Hey, you forgot the Russian blondie at Subway. She is part of the furnitures.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. Don't know how she slipped my mind. She has been there as long as I can remember. Never been tempted to ask for a quotation as she doesn't fit my tastes.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1348252]I've had a drink in the Biergarden on soi 7, but where exactly is this soi 7/1, up an alley nearby? I don't recall seeing a Subway around there, except one on Sukhumvit. Streetwalkers along soi 3 & 4 & around sukh soi 5 is more my area of interest.

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Bangkok Streetwalker Stunner lookalike:

[url]http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/weird-talent/2gvc9hvc9?cpkey=9fa3f246-7925-443f-9c9d-f4194e44c7be[/url]

%257c%257c%257c%257c[/QUOTE]Soi 7/1 is between Soi's 7 & 9. The subway sandwich bar is on the corner of Soi 7/1 and Sukhumvit.

Regards.

BJ

Sometimes I'll grab a Subway Sandwich there and then I'll stroll down Soi 7/1 looking for something worthwhile. So far I've come up empty-handed.

The Russian lady right by Subway, I talked to her once as she solicited me, she seemed like a very nice lady, but I had to politely refuse her services. LOL

I have long asserted that looks alone don't determine a lady's ability on the bed but looks form the essential first contact. First impressions are disproportionally important. My first impression,

Walking past BJ's Bangers was the the place will have to up its standards if the ladies' are going to attract passing traffic.

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1348146]I stay at world inn quite a lot. No way is this an up and coming soi. Very few foot traffic as far as I can see. I mostly see thais coming and going and I doubt they are customers of anything. If you want more traffic get prettier girls.

Of course this might have changed in the last few days. LOL.[/QUOTE]You posted all 9 screens of a quote just to add a few lines of comment. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post]. Some people read the forums on smart phones and tablets and scrolling through a long quote is a pain.

As much as you complain and harangue others, show a little consideration for people with small screens.

Rant Over.

Slim

[QUOTE=Machakw; 1348310]I am a newbie here, not a paid member blah blah, most times do not RTFF etc etc. I looked through 5 pages of your posts & most of them are trash, Cheers[/QUOTE]Hey Mach, I looked through your 16 contributions to the forum and there is only one post with any content at all and that content about Amsterdam was scant and nothing I could use. I have been to Dam at least 10 times. In your own words you are a newbie, not a paid member, and don't RTFF. Please don't attack veteran members of the forum. You don't know anything about the B man and what he has contributed here. Attacking other BM's inhibits the free flow of information. If you think someone is BS, put them on your ignore list and you will never be bothered by them again. Cheers.

By the way, your comments should not have been posted in the Thailand ROD. That is why I responded to it here in the Bangkok Reports thread.

[QUOTE=Machakw; 1348310]Bionicman,

I am a newbie here, not a paid member blah blah, most times do not RTFF etc etc.

I looked through 5 pages of your posts & most of them are trash, basically correcting people,"oh me the right & just guy" or "great post" "great view" basically feckall of value.

So get arf yer high horse because you remind me of a floogie bird, the one that flies in ever decreasing circles flinging shiit at other people until it disappears upp it's own hoop.

It's more of a subcontinental persona.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Truer words NEVER spoken.

Interesting encounter in my visit to Dr BJ's Budget Bangers. Went to check it out this new option in BKK, (3) places around soy 7/1, entered the first in the right side, about 20 girls in the line up, first and second floor, All kind of shapes, in between of two big girls, was the one with a nice smile, pretty face and good tied body, so I got her, went up to the room for the "bang", not a room just a small area with large chair and sing for the clean up. The whole thing started with a pretty good BJ, DT, and a lot deep kisses, what a girl! Then I was ready to Fuck, surprise! She starting covering her pussy and not let me go there. I held her hands tied and try to penetrate her, but no luck, so took at look there and I saw the tiniest opening I saw in my life, The girl (Jen her name) told me then, I could fuck her, but it will be 2000 more! Did not want to go. We just finished with more BJ and cum over her tiny pussy. Well, it was a quiet experience, at least for me, only in BKK. I'm back in Thai.

Razor

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1348252]I've had a drink in the Biergarden on soi 7, but where exactly is this soi 7/1, up an alley nearby? I don't recall seeing a Subway around there, except one on Sukhumvit. Streetwalkers along soi 3 & 4 & around sukh soi 5 is more my area of interest.

Bangkok Streetwalker Stunner lookalike:

[url]http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/weird-talent/2gvc9hvc9?cpkey=9fa3f246-7925-443f-9c9d-f4194e44c7be[/url]

%257c%257c%257c%257c[/QUOTE]Soi 7/1 is after Soi 7, walking along Sukhumvit direction Asok or Nana BTS station. Subaway is in the corner and usually there is a blond CIS sitting in the Soi side of the Subaway terrace. Short hair. She became an icon and we often refer to her in here as she is a "must be there or something is wrong in BKK"

Nothing much to write home about, as DrBJ said. Some might like her, some don't, not a big deal.

Continuing my first visit to Thailand, a long one, I ventured one day up Soi 7/1. Actually, a girl from Biergarten took me there to book a room for an hour in the World Inn (?). Near the Nana BTS station on Sukhumvit, the odd streets are on the north, the even on the left. Soi 7/1 is between Soi 7 and Soi 9 (or perhaps Soi 7/2? No sure). In any case, very easy to find, with a Subway sandwich store on the corner and a BTS mass transit station right there.

On thus street there is a nighclub (Bangkok Beat) , a couple of massage places, a couple of bars, and three establishments of Dr BJ. They are all painted white, obvious, and the girls out by the street explained the difference to me: BJ bar is to get a BJ. The BJ Naru massage place is to get a body to body massage and sex, for 2000 baht. The last place, Budget Bangeers, is to get a bit of massage and sex with girls that are really good because they have a lot of experience.

I loved the promotion for older women, and the price was only 1000 baht including room (but not including a bottle of water. 100 baht more). I selected a 30ish woman with a nice non-Thai build (I. E. She had tits and a butt and some curves and some muscles). Not fat, but more substantial than I have been used to here in Thailand.

The place is newly painted and clean. I was the only customer so I got to see all he girls as we went up the 3 flights of stairs to our room, which had a bed and a shower, but the toilet was down the hall. Much nicerr than most of the massage places I have been in so far. Saw most of the afternoon lineup as we went upstairs. Not very impressive looks wise, but I have learned that llooks are not everything in sex.

I used my standard technique to interrupt the girls standard script (you can come up with your own. It isn't hard, you just take control and insist on some things that you enjoy when having sex with a girl). The session was very nice. We used up the entire hour. I got everything I wanted and more. I presume she was happy with her orgasm and tip, but I have stopped worrying about that. YMMV.

-ziing.

P. S. For 2000 baht I could have a deluxe room and a soapy massage. I chose the basic "budget" service.

My usual haunt at Spaso is getting to be too expensive and the ladies are getting more and more attitude. So its time to try other venues.

Insomnia, plenty of girls, much younger than Spasso but not as good looking (in my opinion). Walked around a bit until a lass called out to me. Talked to her. She asked for only 2000. Ok, lets go. I hailed a taxi but she said, I have a car. Ok, might be a run-down junk. But its a brand new Camry. Went to my hotel where she used the complimentary parking. Had a few drinks from the duty-free stuff and we were off at it. She obviously enjoys her sex. Naturally, I enjoyed it too.

BBBJ, DATY, lots of humpin. I came once. She wanted a second round, blew me to attention and rode me until she came. One more session in the moring. She left at around 8 and said, 'Can you give me 2, 500? ' Fine baby, the session was far better than the usual. No problem.

She must be 24/25 and stays with her sis. She has a car, looks well-off, Can speak English well. Then why does she need money for the sex? CRAZY BANGKOK! Left me a bit confused.

Yesterday, met an interesting girl in Spasso. She was with a couple of friendsShe works at a spa in a five-star hotel. Not a masseuse. She's more into the marketing, customer service stuff. Showed me photos of her at work. This girl is a knock-out. We chatted, danced some. Hit a bit on her but she did not look to be the kind who enjoys being groped in Spasso's. Suddenly, she said that she has to go. I asked her if we can meet sometime. She did not give me her number but she asked me to come to the spa she works in later today. Do you think its worth the trouble? She's really pretty but I don't want to waste my precious time in BKK on a dead errand.

Please advise if you guys have had similar experiences.

Cheers,

McM

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1348667]My usual haunt at Spaso is getting to be too expensive and the ladies are getting more and more attitude. So its time to try other venues.

Insomnia, plenty of girls, much younger than Spasso but not as good looking (in my opinion). Walked around a bit until a lass called out to me. Talked to her. She asked for only 2000. Ok, lets go. I hailed a taxi but she said, I have a car. Ok, might be a run-down junk. But its a brand new Camry. Went to my hotel where she used the complimentary parking. Had a few drinks from the duty-free stuff and we were off at it. She obviously enjoys her sex. Naturally, I enjoyed it too.

BBBJ, DATY, lots of humpin. I came once. She wanted a second round, blew me to attention and rode me until she came. One more session in the moring. She left at around 8 and said, 'Can you give me 2, 500? ' Fine baby, the session was far better than the usual. No problem.

She must be 24/25 and stays with her sis. She has a car, looks well-off, Can speak English well. Then why does she need money for the sex? CRAZY BANGKOK! Left me a bit confused.

Yesterday, met an interesting girl in Spasso. She was with a couple of friendsShe works at a spa in a five-star hotel. Not a masseuse. She's more into the marketing, customer service stuff. Showed me photos of her at work. This girl is a knock-out. We chatted, danced some. Hit a bit on her but she did not look to be the kind who enjoys being groped in Spasso's. Suddenly, she said that she has to go. I asked her if we can meet sometime. She did not give me her number but she asked me to come to the spa she works in later today. Do you think its worth the trouble? She's really pretty but I don't want to waste my precious time in BKK on a dead errand.

Please advise if you guys have had similar experiences.

Cheers,

McM[/QUOTE]1) she needs money so she can make payments for that car!

2) you met the girl in Spassos, she is a working girl, irrelevant of having a job, and she is obtainable. However, if she wouldn't give her number, I don't think I'd go out of my way to chase her down, just far too much effort, which to me is never worth it in this town.

Some of the sites seem to have a lot of shills for other sites there but the lovelinks ones do a pretty good job of switching off their profiles after they get a couple complaints. From worst to best, I think you find the most "girls" trying to lure you to Gagachat. 0ne4u pay-chat sites at; Asiandating, Koreancupid, Chineselovelinks, Thailovelinks and Japancupid.

Very few of the early interests on those sites tried to get me to go to paid chat sites, except asiandating, I think the reason the activity leveled off was because it's mainly the same people on there all the time and and after I didn't reply or we chatted and had no mutual attraction, they don't contact me anymore and now it's just the new members or members who check in infrequently. If I'm online I still get a lot of emails, interests and I'm requests.

My experience was similar at first, in the beginning there were a lot of women I expressed interest in or sent emails to but now I'm not seeing as many people I haven't already contacted.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1347123]Don't underestimate the fact that someod those sites tend to hook up the the subscriber and also lure him into paid memberships. I noticed the same: at the beginning you get everyday contacts and some seemingly hot. Then all fades away into oblivion and no more mails. Same strategy as FB. I had an old account and didn't use it for two years. Recently I entered FB with it again, and all of a sudden FB writes me that I should get this and this friend, visit, blah blah. Part of the FB software tricks, nothing else.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Oldian. Maybe Girl No. 1 is one of those girls who are living out of their means and needs to make some money on the side to support their lifestyle.

Regarding the second, I'm still in 2 minds. She's obviously very pretty, young and worth the chase. But. Uhm.

Will keep you guys posted. My policy is max 3 tries.

Cheers,

McM.

[QUOTE=Oldian; 1348679]1) she needs money so she can make payments for that car!

2) you met the girl in Spassos, she is a working girl, irrelevant of having a job, and she is obtainable. However, if she wouldn't give her number, I don't think I'd go out of my way to chase her down, just far too much effort, which to me is never worth it in this town.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1348710]Thanks Oldian. Maybe Girl No. 1 is one of those girls who are living out of their means and needs to make some money [B]on the side[/B] To support their lifestyle.

Regarding the second, I'm still in 2 minds. She's obviously very pretty, young and worth the chase. But. Uhm.

Will keep you guys posted. My policy is max 3 tries.

Cheers,

McM.[/QUOTE]Did you leave something out in the original post about her job? I just assume that she's a freelance hooker unless she told you something that you did not tell us.

I know a beer bar lady with a nice late model Honda car.

How do these gals even afford a new Camry, they really get jobbed here, the cheapest model is $42, 000 USD. Hell, in the US you could easily buy a nice Lexus or BMW for that price. And even people who make much more than a decent earning Thai can't really afford one

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1348806]How do these gals even afford a new Camry, they really get jobbed here, the cheapest model is $42, 000 USD. Hell, in the US you could easily buy a nice Lexus or BMW for that price. And even people who make much more than a decent earning Thai can't really afford one[/QUOTE]They can't't afford the car. As a previous poster said if she's selling ass with a new car then most likely that money is going towards car payments. I actually know several girls like that in Bangkok. They complain about not making enough money while trying to make crushing payments (I'm talking paying 15, 000 baht a month for a car while pulling in a 19, 000 baht a month salary) on a car that they don't need. Some of them can't even drive and the car sits home in the village. I don't understand why a person would behave in such a way but this isn't only in Bangkok. All across the world people live outside of their means and end up paying for it.

At least in Bangkok the positive for us is more availability, especially around car payment time.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1348806]How do these gals even afford a new Camry, they really get jobbed here, the cheapest model is $42, 000 USD. Hell, in the US you could easily buy a nice Lexus or BMW for that price. And even people who make much more than a decent earning Thai can't really afford one[/QUOTE]Many of them do not really own the car per se. You would be surprised how many foreigners who bought homes in BKK and keep a car and visit couple of times a year. Most are married and have a gf in BKK. The GF gets to use the car as well as the condo or house free. I have met two girls who had cars. One I met of all the places beergarten. Both were very nice not demanding money and they took me all over the place. Ofcourse I bought them gifts and had a good time. These girls told me they are thoroughly bored and need sex. I believe they are also trying to line up potential sugar daddies in case the first one gets rid of her.

One of the girls was from chiang Mai. She told me she moved to BKK when she was 18 in search of work and met a German guy and ever since she has been his GF. He comes once in a while for business and expects her to pick him up at the airport. So she learned how to drive. I met her when she was 25 and she must have been a very pretty girl at that age. She told me her BF supports her and her family. She said only problem is she has to be discreet because the guy has her watched. So we spent our time in the room mostly except for night outings. Could not take the car anywhere because she said if there was a accident it will be very hard to explain.

Didn't have any luck with forum search. Looking for driver service for ride to Pattaya from Bangkok. I have number of service from 2 years ago but have not called them yet to see if still in operation.

Thanks!

Crazy4Thai,

On second thoughts, it was a white Honda Civic. Was drinking a bit and so did not remember too much. Are we talking about the same girl here? PM me and I will send you her name. I don't want to discuss names on the open forum.

Actually, she did not mention anything about her job. I just assumed that she has a good job since that car was pretty new and nice. Maybe some dumb-ass sponsor is taking care of her.

Possibly, she is a working girl since she gave me a call at 5:30 in the morning today since I did not call her during this visit. Normal girls don't do that. Hahaha.

Cheers,

McM.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1348760]Did you leave something out in the original post about her job? I just assume that she's a freelance hooker unless she told you something that you did not tell us.

I know a beer bar lady with a nice late model Honda car.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1348904]Many of them do not really own the car per se. You would be surprised how many foreigners who bought homes in BKK and keep a car and visit couple of times a year. Most are married and have a gf in BKK. The GF gets to use the car as well as the condo or house free. I have met two girls who had cars. One I met of all the places beergarten. Both were very nice not demanding money and they took me all over the place. Ofcourse I bought them gifts and had a good time. These girls told me they are thoroughly bored and need sex. I believe they are also trying to line up potential sugar daddies in case the first one gets rid of her.

One of the girls was from chiang Mai. She told me she moved to BKK when she was 18 in search of work and met a German guy and ever since she has been his GF. He comes once in a while for business and expects her to pick him up at the airport. So she learned how to drive. I met her when she was 25 and she must have been a very pretty girl at that age. She told me her BF supports her and her family. She said only problem is she has to be discreet because the guy has her watched. So we spent our time in the room mostly except for night outings. Could not take the car anywhere because she said if there was a accident it will be very hard to explain.[/QUOTE]Canadian Kills Thai Rival in Deadly Love Triangle.

A 42-year-old Canadian engineer stabbed a 59-year-old Thai lawyer 50 times after he caught him with his live-in Thai girlfriend. The Canadian had returned unexpectedly from an overseas business trip, and walked in on the illicit lovers in his Bangkok home.

BANGKOK – November 10, 2012 [PDN]: A report of a man being fatally stabbed was received by the Kannayao police station in Bangkok. A police team rushed to inspect the scene. The incident occurred in a house at 418/63 Harbetia village, Tambon west Sarmwa, Amphur Klong Sarmwa.

At the scene, police found the victim's body in a second-floor room of the house. He had been stabbed more than 50 times all over his body. He was identified as Mr. Komsan Aksornchart, age 59, occupation lawyer.

The man who killed him was identified as Mr. Macos Beyond, age 42, a Canadian engineer. He was in the house and gave the knife to police and surrendered himself without escaping. Also in the house was the suspect's girlfriend, identified as Ms. Patcharaporn Pinorn, age 42.

During questioning, police discovered that Mr. Macos and his girlfriend had lived together for 6 years in the house, which he had bought to live with Ms. Patcharaporn. But Mr. Macos seldom stayed in the house because he often had to travel abroad.

Meanwhile, Ms. Patcharaporn was studying for a master's degree at Ramkhamhaeng University, where she became acquainted with the Thai lawyer. [b]On the day of the stabbing, Mr. Macos had flown back from abroad unexpectedly without telling Ms. Patcharaporn beforehand. [/b]

When he arrived at the door of his house, he saw Ms. Patcharaporn was together with the lawyer, so they got into a violent quarrel. Then Mr. Macos used the knife to stab the lawyer until he died.

For the cause of the murder, the officers assumed that it came from jealousy. When Mr. Macos saw his girlfriend with other man, he got angry and made trouble. Initially, the police restrained Mr. Macos and charged him in an accusation of killing another person intentionally, and then brought him to the police station to do the master plan of confessing and put him into jail.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/11/11/canadian-kills-thai-rival-in-deadly-love-triangle/[/url]

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1349061]Crazy4Thai,

Actually, she did not mention anything about her job. I just assumed that she has a good job since that car was pretty new and nice. Maybe some dumb-ass sponsor is taking care of her. McM.[/QUOTE]In europe I saw some WG driving their own Merdcedes SL's etc. 100% guaranteed WG or, better, SW, and using the car as a street base. Defintely not a member of a corporate Board of Directors.

I had heard about Pegasus for years, but had never been there, since I could always find plenty of talent at a much lower rate. This trip, though, the talent pool seems to have dried up. My favorite, June, at Snow White has retired, and Ammy and Cat no longer work at Mango. Yok, formerly of Tulip, retired several years ago. I went to six other well-known massage places, but I didn't find anyone to my liking. All my old favorites were gone, so I decided to fish in new waters.

Pegasus is a high-end men's club that also offers take-out service. It's just off Soi 23, so if you're coming from Sukhumvit, go down the soi and turn right at Giusto's Italian Restaurant, and walk about 100 meters. It has a very impressive entrance with ornate architecture. Inside, it was very nice with comfortable furniture and decoration. The woman at the door asked if this was my first time, and I said it was, so she sat me down and explained the rules. The entry fee was 900 baht for non-members and that included one drink. If you wanted a lady to sit with you, it was 1, 800 baht for the first hour and 900 baht for each additional hour. Take-out was 3, 000 baht for short-time for a "model" and 4, 000 baht for a "star." It was double that for all-night. In addition to paying the lady, there was a barfine of 3, 000 paid to the house.

I asked if I could see the girls before I decided to pay the entrance fee, but they said no. I thought about leaving, since I didn't want to pay 900 baht and not find anyone to my liking. As she saw me hesitate, they offered a discount of 20% on the entrance fee and the house lady charges, but not for the fee paid to the model or the star. She also told me that there was a good show going on. I decided to risk the entrance fee reduced to 720 baht from 900. Even if I didn't find anyone I liked, I could still have a drink and enjoy the show.

She escorted me in and sat me down on a comfortable couch facing the stage. The band and singer were quite good and I was enlying myself when a mamasan approached me. Would I like some company? I asked to see the girls. They were all sitting in the back. The mamasan explained that the ones in black dresses did not go out, but were only available to talk with customers at the club. The others were available for take-out and were either models or stars. I asked if all the women there were models and the mamasan said yes. I was a little disappointed with the selection, since most were pretty average. I saw lots of better-looking ones already sitting with other customers, so I guess the group I was seeing were the leftovers after the best ones had been picked. I was ready to go back to the couch by myself, finish my drink and enjoy the show. Then, I spotted someone sandwiched in between two girls who was stunning. She looked great and I wondered why she was only a model and not a star, since she was one of the best lookers at the club, even including the ones who were already sitting with clients. (When I paid the bill later, I learned that she was a "star" and not a "model," so the mamasan had misinformed me.)

She said her name was Maya, and we went back to the couch together. She was about 23, beautiful and had a great body. She was a student at a local university and spoke good English. It turned out to be a great evening. She was interesting and enthusiastic, as she ran her hands over my leg and cuddled up next to me. We had a fascinating conversation. The show was great with good music and beautiful dancers in elaboraste costumes. After the first hour, I invited her back to my hotel for a short-time session. She accepted with glee. The session was pretty good and I enjoyed a nice BBBJ, a massage and sex in several positions. Most enjoyable, though, was her beautiful, flawless body. There were no marks on her body and her breasts were beautfiully shaped with nice pink nipples good for sucking. She had a nice bubble butt and long, sleek legs that felt great next to mine as we made love. Best of all was the conversation and absence of the jadedness of most bar and massage girls.

The total came to about 9, 000 baht including 720 baht for the entrance fee. 1,440 for the first hour of conversation (20% discount from standard price of 1, 800) .2. 400 for the bar fine (20% discount from standard price of 3, 000) and 4, 000 for Maya (no discount for the girl and I paid an extra 1, 000 because she was a star). All in all, it was worth it. 9,000 baht sounds like a lot in Thailand, but it's only $300 US, which is a bargain by American standards. I got a show, some good music, drinks for two, the company of an eager young lady and a nice sex session back at my hotel. I probably wouldn't do it every night, but it's a wonderful splurge. If you want a high-end experience, this is the one. It's a lot better than the usual experience in a bar or a massage parlor. If you can afford it, try it, you'll like it.

If you decide to go, I would advise getting there around 8pm or shortly thereafter, before all the best talent has been chosen. The show starts at 9:45, so you would have to pay for an extra hour if you wanted to wait and see the show. What I did was pay the take-out fee, had her change clothes, then she could sit with me and watch the show without paying the 900 baht per hour.

Thanks Canyon, that's a good review of a place not talked about very often. I'm guessing you got her number and can repeat with her for a cheaper price?

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1349155]Thanks Canyon, that's a good review of a place not talked about very often. I'm guessing you got her number and can repeat with her for a cheaper price?[/QUOTE]If I was going to be here longer I would do that, but I'm only here a couple more days. She studies during the day and has a committed work schedule, so it would be hard for her to work me in right now after hours. In any case, I'm not a late night guy, so I like to go to bed by midnight. She would not be able to commit to getting off before then, so it's complicated.

Thank you for your compliment on the report. I learned a lot, so I thought it would be useful to others. One thing that I did not put in the report that I found surprising was the demographics of the customers. I had assumed that they would be at least 50% Thai. In fact, they are less than 5. I asked Maya why, and she said Pegasus is not Thai style. They like to go out and dance and go to massage parlors. Customers were about 40% European or Austrailian, another 45% were from Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore. There were very few Americans there.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1349086]When he arrived at the door of his house, he saw Ms. Patcharaporn was together with the lawyer, so they got into a violent quarrel. Then Mr. Macos used the knife to stab the lawyer until he died.[/QUOTE]What a complete Moron! The wife cheats and he kills the lawyer? What if she told him she was divorced and free?

So now, the real culprit: the Wh*re wife is Free and clear while the dumbass hubby will go to Jail for life.

Nice.

Gents,

A work mate (and former lover) is traveling to Bangkok on business (entirely unrelated to P4P). Apparently, she'd like to combine business with pleasure, as well as make some dosh while she's at it.

The lady is voluptuous, smart, GFE A+ and extremely sexy.

She's decidedly more expensive that your average local 'lubh yoo long tiiime' hostess, but (IMO) is a class apart and worth every last baht.

Particularly recommended for connoisseurs of lush, Rubenesque curves.

Interested? PM me.

Cheers

Yes, great report Canyon. I too like to mix things up occasionally and take girls possessing different qualities and attributes from widely varying venues around Bangkok. If I just stuck with one type of girl, say oily massage girls or Go Go girls or FL's at Thermae, I think I would start to get in a rut and most definitely miss out on a lot of the variety that is available in BKK. I did not hit any Gentleman clubs this trip, but I did stop by Spasso one night and picked up a very good looking 30 year old. I dug her un-Go Go like softer more curvy body, her big natural "C" cups that hung down a little and her large round pinky brown areolas. The night was expensive to be sure, but definitely date-like and the girl was a GFE. She gave me her number and wanted to see me again, but for the next few nights I went back to my Go Go girls and massage parlors, refreshed and ready for more action. Yeah, variety is the spice of life.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1349155]Thanks Canyon, that's a good review of a place not talked about very often. I'm guessing you got her number and can repeat with her for a cheaper price?[/QUOTE]I think the same way as you Chill Out. I like to think of the huge expense of the first night in such places as a fixed cost for meeting a girl like this and having a first time get to know you session. Seeing her afterwards on the outside for a late lunch and sex is a much lower variable cost. I have done this many times in Thailand and in Manila and the return on my investment have been rewarding. I did not see my Spasso lady again, but I have her number. Perhaps I will give her a call in 100 days when I return.

Well, I have noticed you peddling the same "rubenesque" at Bangalore, though you seem to wear the garb of a monger despite being a one woman SP, and how noobs thank you profusely for this "independant" contact. Now spreading your wings internationally? Rock on! Maybe I should share this thread in blr forum.

[QUOTE=Harerama; 1349251]Gents,

A work mate (and former lover) is traveling to Bangkok on business (entirely unrelated to P4P). Apparently, she'd like to combine business with pleasure, as well as make some dosh while she's at it.

The lady is voluptuous, smart, GFE A+ and extremely sexy.

She's decidedly more expensive that your average local 'lubh yoo long tiiime' hostess, but (IMO) is a class apart and worth every last baht.

Particularly recommended for connoisseurs of lush, Rubenesque curves.

Interested? PM me.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canyon;1349116]I had heard about Pegasus for years, but had never been there, since I could always find plenty of talent at a much lower rate. This trip, though, the talent pool seems to have dried up. My favorite, June, at Snow White has retired, and Ammy and Cat no longer work at Mango. Yok, formerly of Tulip, retired several years ago. I went to six other well-known massage places, but I didn't find anyone to my liking. All my old favorites were gone, so I decided to fish in new waters.[/QUOTE]Nearly all of these were also my favourites (one exception not known to me) , surprise?

Could you give a brief description of the Pegasus show. I don't expect it would be interesting, but you never know.

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1349116]I had heard about Pegasus for years, but had never been there, since I could always find plenty of talent at a much lower rate.

What I did was pay the take-out fee, had her change clothes, then she could sit with me and watch the show without paying the 900 baht per hour.[/QUOTE]Very informative report on a off the beaten track path. The forum was missing that, so thanks for your time in doing (was pleasant time for you, surely) and and writing this report (our pleasure to read and good memories for you).

Just a side question. We all know ST is not endless and can be from "the pop moment" to one hour or two hours. It can be extended if the girl likes it and there is chemistry. But this happens afterwards. So what was the ST length expectations? Was wondering if the ST sandclock starts when you bar fine her. And ask her to change clothing so the drink time does not run.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1349329]Again, I don't think guys want DECIDEDLY more expensive here. Guys here want free or off the streets for sub 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]Touché, compadre!

[QUOTE]Looking for driver service for ride to Pattaya from Bangkok.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]

I've used them several times. Always very reliable. More often than not the car is a little larger than the standard tiny taxi.

Could you give a brief description of the Pegasus show. I don't expect it would be interesting, but you never know.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,

The show is different each night. The first one I saw started with a good female singer who sang popular songs. She was backed by a three piece group of piano, saxophone and bass. After that, both male and female dancers came on for a while with the ladies being featured naturally. Dancers were energetic, After that, there was a pageant with the ladies in beautiful costumes who danced in a slow manner.

The second night started with the same singer and band. Then came the dancers with a different routine. Next was the fashion show with a chorus of girls in Thai costumes and candles set on stage in the manner of Loy Katong. While girls in Thai costumes were still on stage and down on the floor with the audience, the fashion show started. One after another, stunning, beautiful young women came out in gorgeous dresses. It was a real spectacle.

Canyon

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1349399]Very informative report on a off the beaten track path. The forum was missing that, so thanks for your time in doing (was pleasant time for you, surely) and and writing this report (our pleasure to read and good memories for you).

Just a side question. We all know ST is not endless and can be from "the pop moment" to one hour or two hours. It can be extended if the girl likes it and there is chemistry. But this happens afterwards. So what was the ST length expectations? Was wondering if the ST sandclock starts when you bar fine her. And ask her to change clothing so the drink time does not run.[/QUOTE]Bionicman,

The ST expectation is two hours. I actually used only 1. 5 hours, then let her go. I was satisfied by then, although she would have stayed another half hour had I asked her. The time begins when you're in the room, so the travel time is in addition to the two hours. The time after she changed clothes and sat with me watching the show was in addition to the two hours and I was not charged. Because of all this, I let her go after 1. 5 hours, because she's a student and I wanted to get her home for the next day.

One other thing I forgot to mention is be careful with your drinks. The first drink is free with the 900 baht admission, but each additional drink is 900 baht. That's right, each extra drink is almost $30 US, so be careful. I recommend nursing the one free drink for the entire show. I only drank a ginger ale. If you're a member, you get free mixers and soft drinks, but I would never join. Had I ordered a second ginger ale, it would have run 900 baht (or 720 baht with the discount.) Overall, I think I had good value for the 9, 000 baht total, but I can see how you could run up the bill by hanging around and ordering more drinks.

Canyon

[QUOTE=Canyon;1349512]Could you give a brief description of the Pegasus show.[/QUOTE]If you type "Pegasus Bangkok" into Google there are a couple of you-tube video's. Not good quality as I am sure they were recorded covertly on a smart phone.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1349516]Bionicman,

Overall, I think I had good value for the 9, 000 baht total, but I can see how you could run up the bill by hanging around and ordering more drinks.

Canyon[/QUOTE]So around 300 dollars not too bad. How is the quality of the girls overall compared to less expensive options in Bangkok? I looked at the show videos on youtube quality is poor but enough to make a good impression

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1349329]Craiglist is more suited to your needs!

Again I don't think guys want DECIDEdLY more expensive here. Guys here want free or off the strrets for sub 1000 baht.

I'm more a middle class sex tourist. LOL.[/QUOTE]I think choice of venue and bargaining skill can have a significant impact regardless of quality and service

[QUOTE=Canyon;1349173]In fact, they are less than 5. I asked Maya why, and she said Pegasus is not Thai style. They like to go out and dance and go to massage parlors.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. I disagree with her assessment. Lots of similar Thai places, but Pegasus caters to foreigners. The Sky in Srinakarin is a good example of a similar place but very little English and harder to take a girl out.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1349326]Anyway I doubt many here are interested in the 10, 000 hot thai girl. LOL.[/QUOTE]We aren't all retired supermarket bagboys you know.

[QUOTE=Sean EZ;1349744]So around 300 dollars not too bad. How is the quality of the girls overall compared to less expensive options in Bangkok? I looked at the show videos on youtube quality is poor but enough to make a good impression[/QUOTE]I think the quality was well explained in the post and I understand it is quite superior. Has to be by the price one pays.

Surely not something one wants to do every night or week, but once in a while it seems a good treat.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1349816]We aren't all retired supermarket bagboys you know.[/QUOTE]From time to time I get frustrated by the constant harping on about price. It starts with those who object to the 50 baht taxi airport surcharge (after paying upwards of $750 to get to Bangkok) ,

Worry about paying $50 for a room and then carp at paying $40 (Baht 1, 200) for a good class fuck.

Yes, $30-$40 gets you 15 minutes in an impersonal Soho walk up (and I have never found anything under $200 in the USA) but in London $150 / hour will get you an unintelligible EE girl.

So getting anything for an hour for under $100 must be seen as good value!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1349848]I think the quality was well explained in the post and I understand it is quite superior. Has to be by the price one pays.[/QUOTE]In Thailand, price does not necessarily mean quality

[QUOTE=Sean EZ;1349744]So around 300 dollars not too bad. How is the quality of the girls overall compared to less expensive options in Bangkok? I looked at the show videos on youtube quality is poor but enough to make a good impression[/QUOTE]The average quality of the girls at Pegasus is much higher than less expensive options. That's not to say that all Pegasus girls are better quality than all the less expensive options, but the average is much higher. Of course, one might find one girl in the budget category who is better than one of the Pegasus girls, but in general, there were lots of stunners at Pegasus. I like Maya of Pegasus because of her intellectual level. She is a student during the day time. It was fascinating talking with her. In general, you don't find a bar girl or massage girl that has the same intelligence level and the same beautiful face and flawless body. For me, it was woth the 9, 000 baht to be with Maya. However, for those who just want straight sex and don't care about a pretty face, a great body or an interesting conversation, there's no reason to go to Pegasus. I'm in the fortunate position of having a good income, so $300 for me is a reasonable amount to pay for a great experience.

One Caveat: All the girls at Pegasus are not like Maya. The majority of them did not appeal to me, but a large number of them did. I paid the entrance fee and went in with the idea that I would only choose a stunner, and if I didn't find one, I would just stay for the show.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1349816]We aren't all retired supermarket bagboys you know.[/QUOTE]Apparently H444 is a "middle class" sex tourist.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1349867]In Thailand, price does not necessarily mean quality[/QUOTE]I can agree but we were talking about visual quality, not performance quality, ie stunning or not. The report mentioned very nice looking (at his standard) , and then mentioned not super performance, but he was happy about it, overall.

Depending on each one eyes, the visual quality can be paid with no bad surprises later (unless there is something hidden underneath the clothing). The performance quality is often unrelated to the visual one, and it is some thing coming out after and bad surprises are just behind the corner. Hence the suggestion to pay after.

Any good finds at the Biergarten in Sukhumvit lately? Curious. Any busty referrals much obliged!

The D

after making some extra money driving a tuk tuk i rented for the day, i decided to celebrate by finding a hot sub 1k baht streetwalker, but couldn't find anything good. pretty much the same ol crap you see standing outside every night.

it was about 2 am and insomnia was probably jumpin' with hotties and maybe i would be lucky to score some free girls who would be like jello when met with my hansum stature lol.

i met a girl giving me the eye, she was lighter skinned, skinny with big tits. we left to outside to chat and i found out she was a refugee from soi thaniya and spoke pretty good nihongo, had a drink and off to my condo. her asking price was 2k, i negotiated to 1. 5k and she quickly agreed. perhaps i could have had it for less? lol.

long story short: not a really good performer, she sucked me off with too much hand action like she was sipping the last drop of a 7-11 slurpee. for sex put too much lube goop and when i did doggy style, she could not handle by size (i'm quite average). turned back to mish. came on her tits and then chatted a little bit and off she went.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1349942]I can agree but we were talking about visual quality, not performance quality, ie stunning or not. The report mentioned very nice looking (at his standard) , and then mentioned not super performance, but he was happy about it, overall.[/QUOTE]Being intimately aware of his standard, I think I'll visit Pegasus sometime soon.

[quote=tony hoeprano; 1349953]after making some extra money driving a tuk tuk i rented for the day, i decided to celebrate by finding a hot sub 1k baht streetwalker, but couldn't find anything good. pretty much the same ol crap you see standing outside every night.

it was about 2 am and insomnia was probably jumpin' with hotties and maybe i would be lucky to score some free girls who would be like jello when met with my hansum stature lol.

i met a girl giving me the eye, she was lighter skinned, skinny with big tits. we left to outside to chat and i found out she was a refugee from soi thaniya and spoke pretty good nihongo, had a drink and off to my condo. her asking price was 2k, i negotiated to 1. 5k and she quickly agreed. perhaps i could have had it for less? lol.

long story short: not a really good performer, she sucked me off with too much hand action like she was sipping the last drop of a 7-11 slurpee. for sex put too much lube goop and when i did doggy style, she could not handle by size (i'm quite average). turned back to mish. came on her tits and then chatted a little bit and off she went.[/quote]she is in the thermae every night before going to insomnia. she's seemed pleasant enough when i talked to her but also comes across as the consummate pro. thanks for the report, you have probably saved me 1500 baht!

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1348710]Thanks Oldian. Maybe Girl No. 1 is one of those girls who are living out of their means and needs to make some money on the side to support their lifestyle.

Regarding the second, I'm still in 2 minds. She's obviously very pretty, young and worth the chase. But. Uhm.

Will keep you guys posted. My policy is max 3 tries.

Cheers,

McM.[/QUOTE]There was a quite pretty gal with dark skin and a beautiful smile named Pu that used to be in the Nana car park every night. She spoke very good English, was extremely pleasant and intelligent, had a great body, and was good in bed. She could have been doing far more than 1000 baht customers in the parking lot, but she was there. She also arrived every night with her car, which she parked in the lot! (always had fantasies of doing her in the back seat!). I believe she'd had a foreign boyfriend for awhile who bought the car in her name and made payments, but then he split and she was stuck with the payments. I don't think a lot of these girls are necessarily living out of their means, they are just cash cows that want to rake it in.

And as the other poster stated regarding Spassos, they are just about all hookers in there, regardless of what their spiel, lifestyle, or whatever they tell you. Keep that in mind at all times, have fun, and you'll be fine.

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1349947]Any good finds at the Biergarten in Sukhumvit lately? Curious. Any busty referrals much obliged!

The D[/QUOTE]How about just finding a girl there. Last month I went in about 10:30 pm and there were 5 people in BG. I heard the place is being sold.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1350012]By your logic, strettwalkkers must suck. Hahahaha![/QUOTE]The question referred, I repeat, to visual quality. It was pointed that the girl he picked up was a good level up and in general lots of girls at Pegasus seem of a good level, even if the best are taken earlier.

There can be visually nice looking girls in the street too. One has just to use the eyes. But maybe the percentage in the street is lower, just a mere commercial fact.

Said here many times: stunning beauty doesn't mean stunning performance. Overpaying doesn't mean better performance.

Still, some might enjoy the visual pleasure of having a nice looking girl aside (the "a dream comes true") , some like the company of a nice looking girl capable of a conversation and in a nice environment. Sex is not only fitting a dick in a pussy, at least not for all.

The best service, personalities, English speakers, and cost factor I have experienced in Thailand are street workers. I take many LT. I treat them with respect, take them to eat, etc. There are a few losers, but most are very nice and want to please.

[QUOTE=Oldian;1350015]There was a quite pretty gal with dark skin and a beautiful smile named Pu that used to be in the Nana car park every night.[/QUOTE]I wonder what happened to her. Saw her in passing on soi 4, about 6 months ago. Not my type though, in looks, and after trying her she was one & done. I seldom give girls a second chance after an initial failing grade, as LOS is such a big candy store.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1350112]Sex is not only fitting a dick in a pussy, at least not for all.[/QUOTE]In LOS sex can be fitting a bare dick in a mouth that just ate extra spicy som tam, or in an ear or, with the size of TGs' noses, up a nostril.

Yikes! I had at least a half dozen yummy girls there!

Also, you are dating street workers, LP? You mean street walkers, right? Interesting. The only beauties I've seen walking are on their way to work.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1350102]How about just finding a girl there. Last month I went in about 10:30 pm and there were 5 people in BG. I heard the place is being sold.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oldian; 1350015]There was a quite pretty gal with dark skin and a beautiful smile named Pu that used to be in the Nana car park every night. She spoke very good English, was extremely pleasant and intelligent, had a great body, and was good in bed. She could have been doing far more than 1000 baht customers in the parking lot, but she was there. She also arrived every night with her car, which she parked in the lot! (always had fantasies of doing her in the back seat!). I believe she'd had a foreign boyfriend for awhile who bought the car in her name and made payments, but then he split and she was stuck with the payments. I don't think a lot of these girls are necessarily living out of their means, they are just cash cows that want to rake it in.[/QUOTE]Some girls need the money for babies, some need the money for their families up north or a husband. Some need the money for gambling or some other costly addiction. When tey get their hands on money, many do not know what to do with money except to spend it because they have never learned to save. I can understand all that. But then there are those like the lady you mentioned with the car. Perhaps it is because the car is registered in the name of someone else, maybe a foreigner, and she cannot sell it.

I remember a bargirl that I picked up a few years ago who fell into the same mysterious category. She was not my first choice of the night as my first preference was a girl on a red flag day. Back at the hotel, even in my drunk state it was clear she looked much better with her clothes off, had great skills and she could speak very intelligently about many things and had great insight into what was going on in the bar and elsewhere. She was such great company that I barfined her every night for a few days and found that she was very well-educated and she had a serious profession before the bar business. I took her on a trip up north and it was one of the best few days of my life. I could never find out why she went into the bar girl business because she had made reasonable money working at her professional job before. She had nothing in common with the other bargirls and when she ultimately left she did not keep in contact with any of them. Perhaps she liked sex so much or the variety. Every time I came to BKK we would meet up and have a great time.

I knew she had a supporter in the USA and on at least one occasion he phoned while we were in the sack together. Eventually she contacted me to say she was getting married to the guy who was in his late sixties. She went to the states to live with him. He had promised to show her the world. Maybe that is what she was looking for. An older retired guy who would marry her and her the world. But then why did she not hang out in the 5 star hotel bars where she could convince some wealthy falang that she was not on the game.

[QUOTE=Simian;1350165]I remember a bargirl that I picked up a few years ago who fell into the same mysterious category. She was not my first choice of the night as my first preference was a girl on a red flag day. Back at the hotel, even in my drunk state it was clear she looked much better with her clothes off, had great skills and she could speak very intelligently about many things and had great insight into what was going on in the bar and elsewhere. She was such great company that I barfined her every night for a few days and found that she was very well-educated and she had a serious profession before the bar business. I could never find out why she went into the bar girl business because she had made reasonable money working at her professional job before. She had nothing in common with the other bargirls and when she ultimately left she did not keep in contact with any of them.[/QUOTE]If she was that much of a conversationalist why didn't you just ask her instead of trying to guess at it?

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1350102]How about just finding a girl there. Last month I went in about 10:30 pm and there were 5 people in BG. I heard the place is being sold.[/QUOTE]I have always found the Bier Garten busy in the late morning and early evening. I have been three times this month, at 11. 30am. 5.30pm and 8. 00pm this month on different days and it was packed. In all honesty I saw little to attract me but if you do find a winner you will usually find (I) she can talk beyond 'wos yer name? ' (ii) will discuss what she will do, and (iii) agree a price. All pluses compared with bar and go-go girls where you can't hear a word above the music!

[QUOTE=BennyHill; 1218757]Visited Kayleigh at Annabellas escorts (

[url]www.annabellasescorts.com[/url]

) A nice, young (20-22) english girl, great BJ and generally very lively and fun. Paid £90 for 45 mins, had a great time. The establishment seems nice enough, private flat not far from the big shopping center (forget its name)

Also had Sandy at Decadent Divas (

[url]www.decadentdivas.co.uk[/url]

) TBH I was disappointed with her, very little resemblance to her pics on the site. Would guess she was mid 30's, a little tubby, more Greek than Italian looking. Paid £120 for an hour, sex was ok, nice GFE but just not the girl I expected. The establishment was much the same as Annabellas, also close to the shopping center, near that indoor ski 'slope'[/QUOTE]Thought this might be an interesting comparison of prices between Bangkok and U. K. I saw this report on the United Kingdom thread of ISG. £90 equates to 4, 392 TB for 45 minutes, £120 is 5, 856 TB for 1 hour. Makes me feel a lot better about paying 1, 500 or 2, 000 for ST.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Pita123; 1349816]

[QUOTE=Harold444;1349326]Anyway I doubt many here are interested in the 10, 000 hot thai girl. LOL.[/QUOTE]We aren't all retired supermarket bagboys you know.[/QUOTE]Not all, but the fact remains most are on a bit of a budget, and prices have really gotten beyond what the majority of European and American refugees can afford - or rather, can afford to access as [i]often[/i] as they'd like.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1350311]Not all, but the fact remains most are on a bit of a budget, and prices have really gotten beyond what the majority of European and American refugees can afford - or rather, can afford to access as [i]often[/i] as they'd like.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of Punters on here that do not live in Thailand full time and therefore not mongering daily and are not retired. I am one (only in Bangkok 40%) and therefore not on such a tight budget. I still work (even when in Thailand). Also have GF (and a backup spare one) in Thailand making mongering opportunities more limited. Many would perhaps be described as regular "tourists".

Maybe the forum should split into two threads:

"Thai Budget"

And.

"Thai Middle to Up-market"

People like Canyon and myself could gladly stay out of the Budget thread completely, I suspect.

This is the Bangkok thread, so automatically some-what more pricey. Budget people should be mostly heading to Pattaya or Phnom Penh I would have thought.

The forum needs diversity to suit all. So complaints about high priced experience are not warranted. I some-one goes with a girl for 1K, I don't complain. If someone else spends 10K in a day its not a problem to me.

Its all a trade off between quality, price and frequency. Plenty of guys on the forum still do not care if the girl is the cheapest possible or not.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1350276]Thought this might be an interesting comparison of prices between Bangkok and U. K. I saw this report on the United Kingdom thread of ISG. £90 equates to 4, 392 TB for 45 minutes, £120 is 5, 856 TB for 1 hour. Makes me feel a lot better about paying 1, 500 or 2, 000 for ST.

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]A London LMP party (2 hours. 7 girls, pop as often as you can) for about 7000 Bhats. Or a nice EE girl on Adultwork for 30 min and 3000 Bhats. Yes, more expensive than Bangkok, of course, but not as much as some would like to believe.

I find those comparisons a bit silly, with all due respect, but since some made them, I just add some more info.

But I agree that when I am in BKK for a few days / nights, I don't care much about a ew hundreds baths, I just pay what is asked to get what I want.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1350320]This is the Bangkok thread, so automatically some-what more pricey. Budget people should be mostly heading to Pattaya or Phnom Penh I would have thought.[/quote]

Actually if you check my old reports (I'm not sure how to find them, but they may still be there), I used to get girls for 200-700 baht in Chinatown and some other freelancer places in Bangkok. I'm pretty sure it is still possible to get 500.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1350320]The forum needs diversity to suit all. So complaints about high priced experience are not warranted. I some-one goes with a girl for 1K, I don't complain. If someone else spends 10K in a day its not a problem to me.

Its all a trade off between quality, price and frequency. Plenty of guys on the forum still do not care if the girl is the cheapest possible or not.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I do agree that the diversity is fine and good. There are just different venues. I think it might be useful to say to someone who pays a girl from [i]the same[/i] (or similar) venue much more than you just paid the week before - 'hey buddy, I think you overpaid or were cheated', but there's no sense in Poseidon customers and Chinatown freelancer customers carping at one another.

Also I admit I pay 1000 or 2000 more often than I do 500 nowadays. Alas, but we all get soft as we get older. ;)

Syzygies,

I think your suggestion is a good one that we create a mid- to high-end forum. How do we do that? Can you contact Jackson?

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1350149]Yikes! I had at least a half dozen yummy girls there!

Also, you are dating street workers, LP? You mean street walkers, right? Interesting. The only beauties I've seen walking are on their way to work.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Its great if you are into ugly old ladies with floppy tits.
The food sucks, drinks overpriced, the AC doesn't work and the place stinks. Sounds like something you would like though I guess.
The same old ladies have been there with their mechanical service for it seems 10 years.

Yes. I would rather go to Nana car park than BG.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1350412]Its great if you are into ugly old ladies with floppy tits.

The food sucks, drinks overpriced, the AC doesn't work and the place stinks. Sounds like something you would like though I guess.

The same old ladies have been there with their mechanical service for it seems 10 years.

Yes. I would rather go to Nana car park than BG.[/QUOTE]The first time I went to Beer Garden, about 2 weeks ago, I didn't see any girls, however, I did see 5 obese German guys chuggin' down their beers. Not sure how much LT or ST was for them though.

Hi guys,

I've been to Bangkok several times before and always tried the usual. Annies, Eden Club, Nana, Soi Cowboy etc. Last time I tried DR BJ's and thought it was awesome. Looking forward to Dr Nuru on this trip. Looking for something different this time around.

So I ventured onto Craigslist and got a few replies that seem legit. I know the names may not mean anything, but there's a Maya and a Lin. Both asking 2k baht for 1 hour, and pics are cute. Attaching Maya's pic. Has anyone tried craigslist / any advice on this?

Tried AFF but to no avail. Its all spam and flakes unfortunately!

Does anyone know of a good fetish club? I could find Domina and BarBAr online. Domina has a good deal at 4k baht for 3 hrs outcall!

Lastly, where would you recommend to go to a local bar for local non-pro girls? Thats always an exciting adventure.

I arrive this week. If anyone is around and wants to go out for some fun on the town, PM me!

Well I just got done with my trip to Thailand. This was my second time visiting the country. It was just as fun and exciting as my first trip and I am already looking forward to my next trip.

I will try to recount my trip and add all the details that might help someone on their adventures to Thailand.

I arrived to Bangkok airport and I had previously purchased the VIP airport arrival pickup, which cost me 1, 100 Baht. It wasn't that worth it actually because the time that I arrived was 9:30 AM and the airport was not busy. The lines in the regular passport control lines were not busy and I am sure I could have gotten out of the airport pretty quickly even without the pickup service. However if you are arriving at a busy time, which would probably be in the afternoon then this service that is provided is a great way to beat the lines. Anyway the guy picked me up after exiting the plane and rushed me through the whole process, I exchanged some cash, got my self a TRUE phone Chip which they were handing out free, put 300 Baht of credit on it and was in a taxi heading to the Majestic Grande in no time.

This was my second time staying at the hotel and you really can't beat it for the price and location. I paid 3000 Baht for a deluxe room, the regular rooms go for 2700 Baht. All reservations were made on the Internet as they are much cheaper, got all my stuff sorted and was checked in and in my room by 11 AM.

Now to get to the good stuff. I walked around the street next to NANA entertainment complex and saw all the bars that were written about on this forum such as Morning light, Hillary 4 and so on. It was too early to go in so I just explored my neighborhood for a bit, bought some stuff at the 7-11 and headed back to the room for a shower and a look at my maps and directions for the list of things I wanted to do.

Thanks to the help from some members here I quickly found out that Dr. BJ's, Eden club, Dr. Nuru Massage were all in the same place all facing each other. I thought I would walk over there and check the place out and possibly hit Eden. I found the street no problem and I quickly saw Eden and unfortunately an confirm what was written on the forum about this place. The girls sitting outside the street were old, run down and have all seen better days. Now that was some rough bunch of looking women so I regretfully passed on Eden and walked to Dr. Nuru Massage. I walked in the guy in charge who is very friendly asked me if it was my first time, as it was he told me to take a seat and explained the options. There were only 5-6 ladies working, he recommends me a lady sitting on the far left but I had my eye on the lady on the far right. Asked him what he thought of her and he said yes very good, chose the 2000 Baht option, bought myself a Singha and the lady a drink and she walked me to the room.

Walked upstairs, as we reached the 2nd floor there were a bunch of girls just sitting around eating, some were sleeping and we passed them and walked up to the third floor. There is a large green mat and a shower which she quickly sprayed all over, made sure everything was clean and told me to ly on my stomach. She applied the gel (Generously) and started getting to work, the usual sliding her self all over. It felt a bit rushed and quick, I would have preferred a more slow and sensual massage. She turns me over and gives me head for a while until I shoot my load. The massage continues and she puts a condom on and starts riding me reverse cowgirl, to her credit she did her best to get me off a second time but I usually do not come more than once in a session unless there is a long break in between. I just don't have the crazy sex drives that some people here have, I am only 35 but I've always been like this. I am more into quality rather than quantity.

She was almost sad that she couldn't make me come the second time, I assured her it wasn't her fault, got cleaned up and was out the door. Talked a bit more to the man in charge and left with a smile on my face. I headed back to the hotel and slept for a bit as I had just come ff a long flight. It was around 4pm at this time. Put my head on the pillow and to my surprise slept till 9pm. Shit was going to miss my first night in Bangkok, wasn't about to let that happen. Took a shower, got dressed and headed to Hillary 4 for a beer and some pool. Played a few games with some people I met and decided to hit NANA at around 11ish. Did the rounds, Rainbow4, Las Vegas, AngelWitch. Rainbow 4 was the best, Most selection and prettiest girls. Went to Angelwitch and was pretty drunk by this time. Now here is where it got a bit nuts, called a girl down from the stage and bought her a drink, was only interested in getting 2 girls for a tag team blowjob at my place, the girl I was talking to didn't want to go with another girl but I was set on my ways. She ended up calling another girl for me and she was real cute. I barfined her and we headed to Nana Liquid disco just across from NEP. We had a good time there and we were both on the hunt for the second member of the BlowJob team and she was all into it doing most of the work. She excitedly came and found me while I was doing rounds and she told me she ran into her friend who works in Las Vegas and she was into it. I bought the ladies a drink and at first I wasn't a hundred percent convinced about the girl but said what the heck, turns out it was the best decision of my life.

We all head back to the hotel, at this point its after 3 and we all go upstairs without a problem. The guys at the lobby just asked for their I'd's and my room number and we were off. In the room prepared the ladies some drink and put some music on and after a long while of talking and laughing I head into the shower. They go in after me and find me on the bed and ready by the time they come out. Then started the best blowjob experience I have ever had. The 2nd girl turned out to me a stunner with her clothes off. 19 and perky. Girl number 1 was more experienced and was directing girl 2 in what to do and where to lick. It was amazing. I didn't come for a long long time, partly because I didn't want it to end and another part was all the booze and my previous pop in the day. The girls had to take a couple of breaks which was all good. We ended up finishing at around7:30-8:00 Girl 2 had to leave, so she did. Girl 1 stuck around for a while longer, we talked for a bit and she was gone by 11 and I needed some sleep.

Damage to girl 1 from Angelwitch was 3000 and girl 2 was 2000. I didn't negotiate with any of them because I had made my mind this trip I was not going to bother haggling too much for 500 baht here 1000 there. If I find it reasonable and if I can afford it then I am going for it. Which I did and it was awesome. Day 1 report is over for now, more to come later.

A real report with useful information rather than some members indulging in their fantasy of 'my penis is bigger than your. '

Well done.

You rightly identified the aged, past it ladies of the Eden Club. Ten years back they were just ten years younger and still past it.

Dr Nuru needs to get his ladies working to customer preferences rather than the standard procedures. Seems to me they are all there to rush you out. That maybe an unfair comment;

Next week I will go try again.

Glad you had an awesome evening.