Jakarta

[QUOTE=WetNose;2985010]Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.

Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?[/QUOTE]It lies South of Monas. It is not too bad a location but not the very best either. By very best I mean Moevenpick, Red Top, Luminor Pecenongan. However is is reasonably well-located with respect to the Grand Indonesia shopping mall where you may want to hang out for meals and for withdrawing cash.

[QUOTE=WetNose;2985010]Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.

Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?[/QUOTE]I stayed there I didn't like the hotel at breakfast time it was very minimal and didn't ebony the food think corn flakes but worst tasting no flavour.

Had girls back here no problem.

Outside can't walk anywhere need transport.

Hi you can use your points at Four seasons Sheraton as well. Aloft is a few minutes walk from the main road whereas Sheraton is on the main road opposite the busway and around the 24 HR restaurants.

No issue in either place with guests you may find sometimes a few mamasan around the Ibis hotel. Aloft is cleaner more quieter and more comfortable.

[QUOTE=WetNose;2985010]Been planning a trip and discovered that I can use my Marriott miles at this hotel, located about 2 blocks south of the Monas, in the Thamrin area.

Is it an OK location if my adventuring is in Hotel Classic and north Jakarta?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Four points Sheraton is good option, very close to Sarinah mall (lot of food options).

Also I found best rate for USD near Sarinah mall.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/rDUH4UWJG4d3UsHo8[/URL]

When going to Classic, you can just get out of the hotel and catch Grab, but when coming back, make sure you put destination to Menara Cakrawala (quick walk to hotel), because Grab will need to make a you-turn from far away to get to hotel.

Also some girls working in hotel are available for dating. Some girls work there as intern who they live far away from city. I met one intern and she was up for spending night with me, only issue I had to book another hotel for that night as she could not stay in same hotel. But it was fun to date a hotel girl, never though that would even possible.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;2985181]Hi you can use your points at Four seasons Sheraton as well. Aloft is a few minutes walk from the main road whereas Sheraton is on the main road opposite the busway and around the 24 HR restaurants.

No issue in either place with guests you may find sometimes a few mamasan around the Ibis hotel. Aloft is cleaner more quieter and more comfortable.[/QUOTE]

I have stayed at both places on points.
I do not recommend either.
The hotel and rooms at 4 points are dated.
Aloft rooms were a bit nicer, lobby was cool.
But I had roaches in my room.

If only there were a topic about Jakarta. Hotels!

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels[/URL]

If only there was a section called Jakarta Hotels.

Any intel on whether our favorite places are open during the Ramandan. Any needs to worry about police busts or other public shaming during this holy timings?

I had originally booked my visit for this March, until I realized that it corresponds with the month-long holiday. My research indicated that almost ALL businesses will be closed. Restaurants may be open after sunset. Businesses that cater to travel like hotels will be open. But many retail stores, spas and other adult-oriented venues will almost certainly be closed. In addition, or as a consequence, most girls will leave the city to stay with family.

I suggest that if you can wait, do so.

[QUOTE=United1;2986165]Any intel on whether our favorite places are open during the Ramandan. Any needs to worry about police busts or other public shaming during this holy timings?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=United1;2986165]Any intel on whether our favorite places are open during the Ramandan. Any needs to worry about police busts or other public shaming during this holy timings?[/QUOTE]A girl in Classic told me only 4 days closure during Ramadan. However, visiting Jakarta during Ramadan is unwise, bordering on foolish if you ask me. There's no upside, only downside.

[QUOTE=XXL;2986441]A girl in Classic told me only 4 days closure during Ramadan. However, visiting Jakarta during Ramadan is unwise, bordering on foolish if you ask me. There's no upside, only downside.[/QUOTE]The advantages are very light traffic, and restaurants are almost empty prior to 6 pm. Then go home and jerk the gerkin.

What are the dates that places might be close during this? Planing in arrival March 12th. Thanks.

For the dates. Check the dates online. But I think its the last week of March and first week of April that will be closed.

However, in my past expereince of non sex stuffs. There is still resturants, malls, hotels places that are opens during time in Central Jakarta because there are many Indo-Chinese and non muslims living in city. So is stuff to do. I don't know about spas, gogo bars and other establishments.

Also know there will be girls on Tinder and SA looking for cash, esp in the days leading up to the final Ramandan days, so they can take money back home to the villages. So I would nots rule out Jakarta during March. Maybe just last week and first week of Aprils. And its great because there is NO traffic and less pollutions. Its great time.

Currently some places are open but at a greatly reduced staff and most are only open till 12 pm. Anything too local is a ghost town, the more Chinese oriented clubs like classic are open. Most of the girls I know are home with family for most of the month, not sure about the first week of April. Still fun to be had but considerably more punters then hot chicks at the moment.

As embarrassing as it is. Thought I Would provide a newbie Caveat. Especially for us from USA who fly to Indo: (Feel free to roll your eyes, indeed I made a rookie move):

Important: Change your IDR back into USD prior to coming back. Prior to getting to CGK Jakarta airport!- IF you were like me and taking an early morning flight. I found myself in CGK around 4:30 AM with a fist full of IDR and no money changer kiosks were open. (This isn't the eye roll Que just yet) - I assumed that around 5 AM they would open. And my flight was leaving 6:10 AM. So plenty of time right? Nope. I even walked then briskly walked and none of the small kiosks are open. Not even the souvinere shops! Well, no problem. I'll just trade in my IDR in Japan at the Narita NRT airport! Time to eye roll!

The Japanese currency exchange shop in Narita airport should be an easy transfer. Especially since I am from USA and Japan and Indonesia are asian countries. How much could transferring IDR into YEN and then YEN into USD?

5,540,459 IDR was about $340 USD and I received about $123.00 USD! Lost about 70%! Yes, I should have said NO! And see what the rate would be in USA at LAX or even holding onto the IDR for future Info travels. But I was a dumbass!

Don't be a dumbass. Indonesia airports and Jakarta malls do not have 97 easy to transfer money shops like Pattaya! I did not exchange my USD while in Jakarta because they usually want your original passport to do any transactions and I assumed an airport kiosk money changer would be open.

Lesson Learned!

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2987659]As embarrassing as it is. Thought I Would provide a newbie Caveat. Especially for us from USA who fly to Indo: (Feel free to roll your eyes, indeed I made a rookie move):

Important: Change your IDR back into USD prior to coming back. Prior to getting to CGK Jakarta airport!- IF you were like me and taking an early morning flight. I found myself in CGK around 4:30 AM with a fist full of IDR and no money changer kiosks were open. (This isn't the eye roll Que just yet) - I assumed that around 5 AM they would open. And my flight was leaving 6:10 AM. So plenty of time right? Nope. I even walked then briskly walked and none of the small kiosks are open. Not even the souvinere shops! Well, no problem. I'll just trade in my IDR in Japan at the Narita NRT airport! Time to eye roll!

The Japanese currency exchange shop in Narita airport should be an easy transfer. Especially since I am from USA and Japan and Indonesia are asian countries. How much could transferring IDR into YEN and then YEN into USD?

5,540,459 IDR was about $340 USD and I received about $123.00 USD! Lost about 70%! Yes, I should have said NO! And see what the rate would be in USA at LAX or even holding onto the IDR for future Info travels. But I was a dumbass!

Don't be a dumbass. Indonesia airports and Jakarta malls do not have 97 easy to transfer money shops like Pattaya! I did not exchange my USD while in Jakarta because they usually want your original passport to do any transactions and I assumed an airport kiosk money changer would be open.

Lesson Learned![/QUOTE]YMMV as I'm based in Hong Kong and I get excellent rates when I change them back here.

[QUOTE=XXL;2986441]A girl in Classic told me only 4 days closure during Ramadan. However, visiting Jakarta during Ramadan is unwise, bordering on foolish if you ask me. There's no upside, only downside.[/QUOTE]I was there last year for a few weeks during Ramadan, and I seem to remember Classic being fairly decent actually. I was frustrated by the limited street foods available and feeling like the city was very quiet but from memory places like Classic and KI, and Kelapa Gading were operating pretty much as usual. Since then I returned twice and enjoyed it more because of the city being more busy and having more options of places to go etc. I am actually thinking of coming back again soon, but just hesitating a bit considering Ramadan and wondering if perhaps the girl situation was worse than I seem to remember. Any other members have similar / contrary opinions?

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2982771]Guys. Looking forward on a good rimming experience. Any leads?[/QUOTE]Try Bulan in Classic Spa. I didn't try it myself, but she brought it up unprompted as she's proud of it among her other skills.

In other news, Kota Indah bars should be back to normal from March 8th, though I'll just stay in the Classic Spa for now. Much more relaxed and less smoke and drinks which I don't do.

[QUOTE=KaliSedang;2987980]Try Bulan in Classic Spa. I didn't try it myself, but she brought it up unprompted as she's proud of it among her other skills.

In other news, Kota Indah bars should be back to normal from March 8th, though I'll just stay in the Classic Spa for now. Much more relaxed and less smoke and drinks which I don't do.[/QUOTE]Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988041]Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?[/QUOTE]In this context, the meaning of Bulan is "Moon". "Fajar" is "Dawn". "Surya" is "Sun". Fajar can be male or female, Surya typically male.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988041]Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?[/QUOTE]Just her stage name. I think she told me her real name as well but I didn't remember. It also means moon, and quite the common name here.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2988041]Her name is Bulan? LOL so her name is month?[/QUOTE]Bulan can also mean "moon", anyway, it's not her real name.

Even no pro girls can have 2 name.

Every each Indo girls are in reality 2 girls inside, with 2 phone numbers, 2 facebooks ... one is the adventurous girl who you meet on dating app, in your hotel room, she wants everything, money, travel, muscular fit men or just fun. The other one is the girl who interact with her family, friends or her community, the wise one.

I really like a Mamasan at classic. She is a little fat but huge titties haha. And she is very friendly to me. I also have her whatsapp number.

Is it possible to hookup with mamasans when they are off work hours and should I take her to a lunch date and then the room or directly tell her I like her and wait for her to come up with an offer.

[QUOTE=Diljeev;2959003]Second night in Jakarta and still haven't gone to the bars because there are so many options on Seeking. First night was a tall drink of water that works at a mobile phone kiosk and tonight was a hijabi that works at Gojek head office. Of course I asked her to keep her hijab on which was super hot, probably because it's so haram.

I very much prefer regular girls to pros even if they're not quite as skilled. Plus I got upgraded to a suite so it seems like a shame to not use it.

There must not be a lot of SDs in Indonesia because the girls are so responsive and it's hard not to line up one for everyday. The price range is all over the map (from 1-5 mill) but it's easy to just next the high asking prices because there are plenty who will accept 2 or 3. Not the 365 k at Classic mind you, and I will make it there to see what the fuss is about.

Can you get two at the same time?[/QUOTE]Can I ask if you asked out the girls directly or did you find them on some app.

[QUOTE=HolaaaaHiiii;2988190]I really like a Mamasan at classic. She is a little fat but huge titties haha. And she is very friendly to me. I also have her whatsapp number.

Is it possible to hookup with mamasans when they are off work hours and should I take her to a lunch date and then the room or directly tell her I like her and wait for her to come up with an offer.[/QUOTE]Is it too obvious to suggest you simply ... ask her? Ask her if she'd like to met you for lunch tomorrow at your hotel.

[QUOTE=KaliSedang;2988183]Just her stage name. I think she told me her real name as well but I didn't remember. It also means moon, and quite the common name here.[/QUOTE]Your name Kali ... any reference to the art? If so, any experience with practicing the indonesian equivalent in Jakarta?

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2987659]As embarrassing as it is. Thought I Would provide a newbie Caveat. Especially for us from USA who fly to Indo: (Feel free to roll your eyes, indeed I made a rookie move):

Important: Change your IDR back into USD prior to coming back. Prior to getting to CGK Jakarta airport!- IF you were like me and taking an early morning flight. I found myself in CGK around 4:30 AM with a fist full of IDR and no money changer kiosks were open. (This isn't the eye roll Que just yet) - I assumed that around 5 AM they would open. And my flight was leaving 6:10 AM. So plenty of time right? Nope. I even walked then briskly walked and none of the small kiosks are open. Not even the souvinere shops! Well, no problem. I'll just trade in my IDR in Japan at the Narita NRT airport! Time to eye roll!

The Japanese currency exchange shop in Narita airport should be an easy transfer. Especially since I am from USA and Japan and Indonesia are asian countries. How much could transferring IDR into YEN and then YEN into USD?

5,540,459 IDR was about $340 USD and I received about $123.00 USD! Lost about 70%! Yes, I should have said NO! And see what the rate would be in USA at LAX or even holding onto the IDR for future Info travels. But I was a dumbass!

Don't be a dumbass. Indonesia airports and Jakarta malls do not have 97 easy to transfer money shops like Pattaya! I did not exchange my USD while in Jakarta because they usually want your original passport to do any transactions and I assumed an airport kiosk money changer would be open.

Lesson Learned![/QUOTE]I leave Indo usually assuming I'd be back and keep about 1 M to 2 M handy for cash the next time I'm back in town. There's a few reasons I've run into that require this backup:

1) I usually use Grab, but one time, I landed in Jakarta and the Grab App required that I authentic my form of payment, and the software glitched up. My credit card never asked for verification. So because Grab wanted to authenticate, and my credit card company refused to send me a code, I couldn't get the Grab App working. I was able to book, but I had to change my form of payment from credit card to CASH. Glad I had a few loose red bills on me.

2) In case Grab fails completely, at least I have enough loose red bills on me for a Bluebird to the hotel.

3) I'd love to start hitting the clubs right away like the day / night I land. Sometimes, the 1. 5 M limit at the really convenient ATM's just won't do. Glad I have a few extra red bills on me.

4) In case I land in Jakarta and my global bank card is glitched up. Code not working, insufficient balance, etc. Whatever can go wrong does go wrong. Glad I have a few loose red bills on me.

I start pacing my spending and conversions about 5 days before leaving so I don't end up with leaving Indo with 5 M IDR unspent, but it's not a huge deal if I did. I wouldn't have taken the 70% hit, kept the IDR, and started planning my next trip back to Indonesia while waiting at the airport.

[QUOTE=United1;2986736]For the dates. Check the dates online. But I think its the last week of March and first week of April that will be closed.

However, in my past expereince of non sex stuffs. There is still resturants, malls, hotels places that are opens during time in Central Jakarta because there are many Indo-Chinese and non muslims living in city. So is stuff to do. I don't know about spas, gogo bars and other establishments.

Also know there will be girls on Tinder and SA looking for cash, esp in the days leading up to the final Ramandan days, so they can take money back home to the villages. So I would nots rule out Jakarta during March. Maybe just last week and first week of Aprils. And its great because there is NO traffic and less pollutions. Its great time.[/QUOTE]Remember that restaurants are nuts at dusk in the Malls. All the fasters are waiting for official sundown to start dining, but a good 30 minutes prior, the seats are already all booked up and filled, but nobody is eating. It's a nightmare. I recommend finding some non-halal place to eat (since the worshipers won't be dining there) so the restaurants that will have available seats would be like Korean BBQ and Song Fa, both great choices for dinner. Find them both at your big bad ass mall.

My mamasan contact from terminal-2 told me it's 1 pm-1 am, which is not the usual timing.

Does anybody know if the quantity of girls has gone down drastically? And is there any other terminal open until 3 am (which is the usual closure time).

I will be there 21st-24th. If any monger would like to share a drink.

[QUOTE=HolaaaaHiiii;2988193]Can I ask if you asked out the girls directly or did you find them on some app.[/QUOTE]I can second this. The girls on seeking are way more expensive than at classic but for me it's totally worth it. The way I look at it is I am spending the same amount I would back home to be with a low end trailer park chick for 30 minutes. For the same amount I get to be with a smoking hot 23 year old enthusiastic goddess for at least 4 hours of hardcore GFE and more often over night. Usually this entails at least 3 rounds. All of them have university degrees and are legit smart. When working out the arrangement I am very direct about what I want and so are they. I don't do the date stuff with them unti after we have have met for intimate meetings a few times. Most of the ones I meet with prefer to get down to business and skip the date part anyway. I think there is a lot of repressed sexual impulse with this demographics because their energy level is insane compared to when I was daing in college. Min asking on seeking in Jakarta is 2 mil. In Bali it's 3 mil or 200 USD. Often times they may ask more but you can bargain within reason. Yes its much more than classic but how much did you spend on your plane ticket? And the intimate time is several factors better.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;2988185]Bulan can also mean "moon", anyway, it's not her real name.

Even no pro girls can have 2 name.

Every each Indo girls are in reality 2 girls inside, with 2 phone numbers, 2 facebooks ... one is the adventurous girl who you meet on dating app, in your hotel room, she wants everything, money, travel, muscular fit men or just fun. The other one is the girl who interact with her family, friends or her community, the wise one.[/QUOTE]Most of the seeking ladies live with their parents until they get married. In Jakarta a university educated woman might not get married until late 20's early 30's. I have had a number of sleep overs with friends who do all kinds of crazy stuff only to put in the hijab right before they leave because they are going home to their parents house where they live. The christian ladies seem less concerned about seeming publicly devout.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2988574]I leave Indo usually assuming I'd be back and keep about 1 M to 2 M handy for cash the next time I'm back in town. There's a few reasons I've run into that require this backup:

1) I usually use Grab, but one time, I landed in Jakarta and the Grab App required that I authentic my form of payment, and the software glitched up. My credit card never asked for verification. So because Grab wanted to authenticate, and my credit card company refused to send me a code, I couldn't get the Grab App working. I was able to book, but I had to change my form of payment from credit card to CASH. Glad I had a few loose red bills on me.

2) In case Grab fails completely, at least I have enough loose red bills on me for a Bluebird to the hotel.
....[/QUOTE]And that's why you should forget about Grab and use Gojek instead.

[QUOTE=HolaaaaHiiii;2988615]
Does anybody know if the quantity of girls has gone down drastically?
.[/QUOTE]I'm not in Jakarta at the moment. But I have the WhatsApp of one of the mammies of Sari Ayu, KI. She frequently posts the current line up in her WhatsApp status. She just posted pictures of 85 girls. This is close to the maximum number she ever posted. I guess if KI is up and running, classic should be too. Go out and have fun!

I've been in Jakarta for a month and am treated well enough I don't care to go anywhere else, especially Bali. I'm pretty popular with certain locals but as I hang out up North (West), I'm starting to see more attractive pale women on the street and can't tell if they are available or not. Locals tell me they are Chinese, but these are real stunners and seem snobby. Can anyone shed light on these seemingly high class girls and what their jig is? I saw a tall busty 6'2" model type with hair down her back dressed down rather casually walk out of a nail salon and the worker there said she was from Thailand. Another one popped out of a streetside lingerie stand late at night. Supposebly this was in a red light district but she didn't seem the least bit friendly. Are these imported girls working at the clubs or what? I'll have to go check Club 36 and 1001 to see if they match up. There's also a tall girl selling 20 k juices dressed sexy and overly flirty roaming around at night but she turned me down in an instant!

[QUOTE=Safado70;2988985]I'm not in Jakarta at the moment. But I have the WhatsApp of one of the mammies of Sari Ayu, KI. She frequently posts the current line up in her WhatsApp status. She just posted pictures of 85 girls. This is close to the maximum number she ever posted. I guess if KI is up and running, classic should be too. Go out and have fun![/QUOTE]Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.

I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.

Long report. Tl; dr Classic hotel was good. I got what I wanted. 365 k + 200 k tips for both nights, BBFS and CIP. No issues with the girl. Great deal.

Some background (or skip ahead if you want just the report):

To start, I'm late-30's East Asian guy and athletic looking and live in the West. I'm also on PrEP and tested regularly. I've been to many sex places throughout SE Asia, been mostly playing in Bangkok these days, I have a few regulars there. That said, I was optimistic and hopeful about Jakarta based on the reports here and was eager to try things out.

Based on what I've read, I was set on 2 things: 1) bareback sex with CIP, I have a thing for creampies. I also don't like condoms. I haven't used one in years. Of course, I was going to ask the girl for consent. If she refused, I was willing to tip. If she refused the tip, my 2nd option was to play out some of my kinks and fetishes: 2) teasing, kissing, oral, pussy eating, edging and orgasm denial. I also had some sex toys with me. Basically if the girl didn't want to have bareback raw sex then I would rather have a playful teasing session instead.

Friday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).

Arrived at 7 PM Friday night. Went up 2 sets of escalators to the bar. There were around 75-100 girls scattered all around the venue. I would say the girls were all under 30, skinny and slender looking but they all smoked. I would say they rated 6 to 8 out of 10 based on looks.

Around 60% of the tables taken. Customers were mostly mid-40's to mid-50's Asian men. They looked to be 70 local and 30 foreign based on the interactions (language fluency and hand gestures). I did not see a single white foreigner.

There was live music and karaoke until 930 PM and then the DJ started playing.

When I arrived, mamasan recommended a few girls to me. I didn't want to be rushed so I kind of batted them away. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with just a single girl. Her name was Eva, short at 5 ft2, she had pretty makeup, decent boobs, and looked like a university student. She was a smoker and had mediocre teeth. I didn't reject her and just let her stay next to me. She spoke no English. Had to rely on a translation app to communicate.

After 15 min later, I took pity on her and decided to fuck. Got a room, paid 365 K to mamasan and we went downstairs to a room.

We kissed immediately in the room, she started to open up and didn't really have any hesitations. She held a condom in her hand and I took it away and said "no condom". She said "why" and I just said "I give you tip. " She quickly agreed. Things were looking good.

We stripped. She had darker skin than I was expecting but not a dealbreaker. I showered first then she washed herself. Then got to bed, full GFE, lots of body contact, licking and teasing. I didn't make her give me BJ, that's not really my thing. I did go DATY and ate her pussy for a while then made her sit on me. She had a moderately 2-week old hairy but delicious pussy. I don't mind hairy pussies. She enjoyed the oral I gave her.

After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.

Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.

I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.

I wanted to fuck her again but I was jetlagged and tired. By 930 PM once the DJ started playing, I tapped out. I told the girl I would come back the next day.

Saturday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).

Returned the next night at 8 PM. There were more girls than the previous night. Probably over* 100 girls, same look as before. Around 80% of the tables taken. Customers were a bit more diverse but still around 70 local and 30 foreigners. They were younger 30 to 50 years old, some even in their 20's and lots of groups. Foreigners included mostly Chinese and Korean, but I saw a group of 4 white guys and 1 black guy with an Asian friend.

Mamasan wanted to recommend girls to me but I said right away I was looking for Eva again. First mamasan had no idea who that was. I walked around and didn't see her. I found another mamasan who knew her and waited a few minutes for her to come out from the back.

I had a drink with her before we went down to a room. 365 k again to mamasan. This time in the room things were a bit more relaxed. We did mostly the same as the stuff we did last night but she didn't get as wet as before.

I had a hard time penetrating her. I had lube but I wanted her to get naturally wet. It was an on and off 5-10 min of trying to get hard and trying to penetrate her bareback. Did some missionary then doggystyle then missionary before I came inside her again. Ate the creampie. I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.

The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.

I didn't have the energy to fuck again, so I left shortly after at 10 PM.

I only spent 2 nights in Jakarta but will return in a few months. I really liked the place and price. The only thing I didn't like was all the smoking but that's unavoidable in Jakarta. I also wish there was a system or separate area for people who want to return later and not have to hang out at the bar (I don't drink or party). Ideally, I'd like a place where I could go fuck in the afternoon then return later in the evening to fuck again without all the drinking, smoking, mamasan hassle.

[QUOTE=Terry88;2989069]I've been in Jakarta for a month and am treated well enough I don't care to go anywhere else, especially Bali. I'm pretty popular with certain locals but as I hang out up North (West), I'm starting to see more attractive pale women on the street and can't tell if they are available or not. Locals tell me they are Chinese, but these are real stunners and seem snobby. Can anyone shed light on these seemingly high class girls and what their jig is? I saw a tall busty 6'2" model type with hair down her back dressed down rather casually walk out of a nail salon and the worker there said she was from Thailand. Another one popped out of a streetside lingerie stand late at night. Supposebly this was in a red light district but she didn't seem the least bit friendly. Are these imported girls working at the clubs or what? I'll have to go check Club 36 and 1001 to see if they match up. There's also a tall girl selling 20 k juices dressed sexy and overly flirty roaming around at night but she turned me down in an instant![/QUOTE]Where are you talking about exactly? Near Mangga Basar or further north in the PIK area? The latter is known as the 'new Chinatown' where a lot of wealthy Chinese Indonesians are living now.

Chindo is a thing I hear. Has anybody seen Chinese looking girls in Classic or the likes.

[QUOTE=HolaaaaHiiii;2989118]Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.[/QUOTE]He didn't mention KL (Kuala Lumpur) he mentioned KI (Kota Indah)​and specifically Sari Ayu which is one of the larger bars in the Kota Indah compleks which is in north Jakarta.

I've never been to Malaysia but I met alot of Malaysians when I was in Jakarta who were there to monger in classic. Also reading the forums in the Malaysia section show that Kuala Lumpur is garbage compared to Jakarta.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=HolaaaaHiiii;2989118]Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.[/QUOTE]KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;2989389]KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.[/QUOTE]KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989314]I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.

After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.

Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.

I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.

...

I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.

The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.
[/QUOTE]I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.

I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).

[QUOTE=XXL;2989418]KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.[/QUOTE]You mean at Starmoon Bar.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bz9GEVGvDpVHRyKYA[/URL]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2989435]I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.

I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989454]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.[/QUOTE]I have taken selfies with over 50 girls from classic whom I have also bareback CIPd.

First of all learn some basic bahasa phrases. Atleast tell her "kamu cantik" and be able to ask "Siapa namamu?" and "kamu darimana? And be able to make small talk like that. Contrary to what Werweq says, 200 k is not too much for bbfscip. It is within the range of what most girls at classic will accept (some will accept lower and some will demand higher). Also bbfscip is not a "basic service" such as Werweq says. Basic service is BBBJ after being wiped down with Listerine and then condom sex. And if you are getting only the basic service you shouldn't even tip 50 k. I never understood these guys tipping for nothing. Just because you do that in restaurants in the US and Canada doesn't mean you do it in a *****house in Jakarta.

That being said start out offering lower for BBFS start out at 100 k (try to learn how to say "Seratus Ribu" (Sare Ratoos Ree Boo) just like that. If she says no then go up to 150 k "Seratus, Lima puluh ribu" just like that. (this is also why it's important to get blue notes instead of red notes at the ATM. Use the machines with the Rp50,000 sticker on them). Anyways if she still says no then say 200 k duaratus ribu but don't just start out there right off the bat. That's going to give the girl all the leverage and you will miss out on paying less if she would have taken less. I was there for 2 months and found that many of them would accept 100 k or 150 k but some wanted 200 k or even more. The pretty Girl with the bow in her hair from terminal 5 for example, asks for 300 k. So you will find that there is not a set one price that they all accept for bbfscip.

Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.

Hope this helps.

Gabacho.

Source of information: Constantly going to Classic T2 and T5 in Nov and Dec 2024.

How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989454]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.[/QUOTE]Please don't ruin the prices so we can have fun for a long time! I've never paid a single dollar for pictures. When you tip, which you probably do anyway, ask for a photo. They'll do it for you.

Hi this is plantsmoke, I'm arriving at the end of ramadan to Jakarta. In my preparation I made a decision early between two: 1. Get info from kaskus indo. Forums 2. Translate indo. News reports.

Well I chose Indonesia news. I did not really understand kaskus. I have not seen any contributors on this forum translate kaskus reports. I guess I would not know if a report here came from kaskus or not.

Translating Indonesia news reports was extremely laborius. It started with typing psk, prostitusi Jakarta in a google box. Sorry I'm going to upload this now. I am a dumbshit andf don t know how to copy or to compose report in a email or notepad. Kind of stupid software that your log-in would time out and you would lose report. With life full of time outs such as the hour at classic and a phone call why can't WSG be differernt? There should be a tutorial here on how you keep from having yolur report dissappear.

This is a add-on to JjBee62 1-30-25 tangerang massage report. I turned up this information translating Indonesia news reports. Obviously these are raw reports and because they are published.

The "powers to be" know about them too. However it is my experience that when a lokalisasi is raided, that vice does not just disappear, and when it does, it relocates usually not too far away.

Who wants to make a bet if you got a motobike in the old rawa malang cilincing lokalisasi site and asked your driver.

, "where are the girls" he would take you not very far away?

Tanjerang:

-mardigrass citra raya, panongan district. Supposedly there is a red light area here.

-kali mati area.

-pasar kemis area.

-kutabumi main market.

-cingluh factory area.

-selapajang next to gerendeng gas station.

-tanah tinggi market.

I believe this is the great equalizer to indonesias cleanse campaign. Obviously with PSK in the search box these "areas" are street hookers.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;2984259]Go to Classic, ask mama Cha Cha for Nia. She does rimming. One thing that I usually do is that while taking a shower together, I made her wash my ass real good. That way she knows that it's clean and won't hesitate to Mandi Kucing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.

Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989646]Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I'll stay away from Emporium during my forthcoming April trip. Even with the old pricing, I only found Emporium worthwhile because my hotel was a stone's throw away. I didn't find the line-up overwhelming. Also, the 2 good girls I sessioned turned out not to be available when I later wanted to repeat. Which implies, alas, that they may have plenty of overpaying customers and can afford to hike prices.

Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.

For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989454]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.[/QUOTE]Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.

I don't think it's worth it to say you will tip X for that, Y for this, etc., if that's what you mean by a sliding scale. Easier to say what you want to do and that you will tip. From a negotiation point of view it reduces the risk of the girl agreeing to some of what you want, but not all, because she thinks you tipping just X for that is not worth it for her, and that instead you tipping Y for this is enough of a tip for her. When it's instead a package deal (BBFSCIP and photos for 200 k), it's easier to say yes and get the tip, than to say no and not getting the tip. If she says no to photos (I sure would if my face was showing) in the end, you can of course still offer her a lower tip for just the BB.

Except for one session (my last threesome), nobody at Classic ever demanded more than a 100 k tip from me I think. Many, maybe most, did not demand any tip upfront at all for BBFS, so I grew to consider that more or less normal service, for which they probably expected an extra tip, which I of course provided. As always, YMMV, and I had one or two girls who refused to drop the condom, even if I upped the tip.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989646]Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.[/QUOTE]That's not nice to hear. I never cared before about the price difference between the categories much before (compared to my travel and room costs, it's too small to care about), but 1. 4 juta (with the mandatory tip) vs 1. 9 juta (with the mandatory) tip is a difference for me. Insisting you have to take a suit (no idea what I'd do there even, as it's not like you're going to spend much time in the room, especially as it's now just one hour (unlike a hotel suite) is just taking the piss IMO.

I really liked Emporivum for the pool, as it's really nice to sit and relax there with a pretty girl for 20-30 minutes an evening you're not busy, but with these extra charges I'm not sure I'll be visiting again. Maybe I'll do my part to confirm the new prices via whatsapp next summer, and then let them know I'm not visiting because of that, though I guess they've raised the prices because they have too many customers already.

Maybe I'll try 1001 for the first time instead, though one minus is, as far as I can tell from other reports here, the girl can for some reason not join you in the pool.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989646]Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying..[/QUOTE]How recent is this? I was there less than a month ago and this was not the case at all. Firstly, the 200 K compulsory tip has been in place for awhile now but I have never had girls demand more. I have sometimes given 300 or even 500 if I got special services like BBFS or MSOG but in general 200 K is okay. I have also never been forced into a suite. They may ask but you can always ask for normal room. Threesome has always been optional. Just say no. For me the prices were simply 1. 4 or 1. 6 all in. So if things have changed it has to have been in the last couple of weeks or so.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989640]Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, it's the same at Emporvium (and everywhere else in Jakarta?), though I guess the price possibly leads the girls at Emporvium to have "less mileage". On the other hand, there are much fewer girls at Emporivum also.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2989687]Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Gabacho;2989472]Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the feedback. I will stick to 200 k max for BBFS CIP and photos next time. Photos are just a nice to have, not a must-have. I really just want no-face nude photos together and another photo of her pussy and creampie. (I have my fetishes, please don't judge). I'll try with other girls next time.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2989595]How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".[/QUOTE]Luckily 'tip' is 'tip' in indonesian (there are other words but "tip" is widely understood).

Also 'cash' is 'cash' in Indonesian (again, there are other words but 'cash' is widely understood).

Thus: "nanti aku kasi tip dalam bentuk cash sayang' (I will give you a tip in the form of cash my dear).

Or, less elegantly: "aku kasi tip cash sayang".

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2989679]Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.

For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.[/QUOTE]I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!

First: You arrive in a new country start asking people how much they make a month. In Indonesia it is $200-400 a month! If we compare that to the USA or Europe where $300-400 will get you a girl in countries where the average income is $3,000-$4,000 a month then we can clearly see that ANYTHING over $20-40 in Indonesia is EXPENSIVE. The Cheapest high end place in Jakarta is be Fashion spa at 830,000 = $50 to 1. 2 m which is $74 and in my opinion it is overpriced. Paradise is 400 k which is $24 and has some of the same girls so you are obviously being overcharged. The solution is stop paying for ALL overpriced crap including FOOD! Prices have almost doubled in Indonesia in just one year! The equation works for food, hotels, and rent as well. $20 for food or $90 for hotels in countries where the income is $3,000 -4,000 a month.

Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.

I am visiting Ubud and Seminyak in May and would love to visit some spas where I can get action. Need to be discreet setups as I Am travelling with family and friends. Could someone recommend some places. Also would like to know typical rates for counter and for extras- would like B2 B, Blow job without condom and possibly FS.

Had posted on Bali forum, but realise it is not very active. Would appreciate some pointers.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2989872]I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!

First: You arrive in a new country start asking people how much they make a month. In Indonesia it is $200-400 a month! If we compare that to the USA or Europe where $300-400 will get you a girl in countries where the average income is $3,000-$4,000 a month then we can clearly see that ANYTHING over $20-40 in Indonesia is EXPENSIVE. The Cheapest high end place in Jakarta is be Fashion spa at 830,000 = $50 to 1. 2 m which is $74 and in my opinion it is overpriced. Paradise is 400 k which is $24 and has some of the same girls so you are obviously being overcharged. The solution is stop paying for ALL overpriced crap including FOOD! Prices have almost doubled in Indonesia in just one year! The equation works for food, hotels, and rent as well. $20 for food or $90 for hotels in countries where the income is $3,000 -4,000 a month.

Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.[/QUOTE]Paradise never heard of it where is it?

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2990075]Paradise never heard of it where is it?[/QUOTE]Just search Paradise spa it is close to Sunter mall. The owner is the same Chinese / Indonesian guy as be Fashion's.

Met this cool guy named T on the street at abou 11:30 pm and we hung out around Mangga Besar til about 3 am just checking out the scene but travel wouldn't let me inside with my camera so I snagged a little cutie off the streets close by.

Looks: 6.

Attitude: 7.

DFK: 5.

BBFS: 6.

Damage: 100 to Mama, 200 to girl.

Pretty good. Not a bad value at $18.

Happy Mongering,

MM.

[QUOTE=NotConcerned;2989741]Thanks for all the feedback. I will stick to 200 k max for BBFS CIP and photos next time. Photos are just a nice to have, not a must-have. I really just want no-face nude photos together and another photo of her pussy and creampie. (I have my fetishes, please don't judge). I'll try with other girls next time.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya I had a girl to whom I promised 100 Baht extra for each good sexy pic (poor erased pics excluded!).This could amount to quite a lot but it motivated her no end.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2989632] Supposedly there is a red light area here.

-. Obviously with PSK in the search box these "areas" are street hookers.[/QUOTE]That shall be helpful? Third hand infos based on hearsay? Worse then a weather forecast. Kkkk.

Go there. Check it out --and then report your experience here.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2989707]How recent is this? I was there less than a month ago and this was not the case at all. Firstly, the 200 K compulsory tip has been in place for awhile now but I have never had girls demand more. I have sometimes given 300 or even 500 if I got special services like BBFS or MSOG but in general 200 K is okay. I have also never been forced into a suite. They may ask but you can always ask for normal room. Threesome has always been optional. Just say no. For me the prices were simply 1. 4 or 1. 6 all in. So if things have changed it has to have been in the last couple of weeks or so.[/QUOTE]The 200 k tip was mandatory, but you used to write it down on the paper girl gave you or pay cash inside. Which essentially meant if the girl asked you then you could give the minimum 200 or more based on the service. With the new rule, 140+200 is without the paper. The girl after service will ask you for tip, if you write 200 on the paper you pay 140+200+200. So you have to say absolutely no tip to the girl and not write anything on the paper if you want to pay the mandatory 200 only. This from a perception perspective is hard because at the very least they become sad, or worse may pester you because the mandatory 200 k tip is not something you write in front of them. In a way it's more like 160 fixed. If you get what I mean.

Why so many mongers want to destroy this place and tipping for nothing? Locals don't tip or hardly like 50 k max.

Why people here talk about mandatory tip? There is no such thing.

Then some guys want to tip for naked pics.

Whats wrong with you people?

Nobody pays for naked pictures.

Its free all over internet.

If you want to take pics of the girl just ask her nicely and she will say yes most of the time.

No need to give the girls bad habits and tipping them for just being naked!

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2989872]I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!

Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.[/QUOTE]Which 4 star hotel is $16 a night?

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2990159]The 200 k tip was mandatory, but you used to write it down on the paper girl gave you or pay cash inside. Which essentially meant if the girl asked you then you could give the minimum 200 or more based on the service. With the new rule, 140+200 is without the paper. The girl after service will ask you for tip, if you write 200 on the paper you pay 140+200+200. So you have to say absolutely no tip to the girl and not write anything on the paper if you want to pay the mandatory 200 only. This from a perception perspective is hard because at the very least they become sad, or worse may pester you because the mandatory 200 k tip is not something you write in front of them. In a way it's more like 160 fixed. If you get what I mean.[/QUOTE]This is news to me. Its more like a price hike than a tip in that case. A month or so ago, it was still 200 K on the slip they give you later (or more if you like). Whether its worth it or not is up to you I guess. Their business must be good to think this is a good idea. Anyway, I've mostly moved to other sources in Jakarta and hit Emporium just once or twice during my stays. So it doesn't move the needle for me that much.

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2990174]Which 4 star hotel is $16 a night?[/QUOTE]I'd love to know that too holiday inn gets expensive fast but amazing breakfast.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2989679] was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. [/QUOTE]It's a club by itself. It's a boate and a terma with fishbowl. The ambience is toward high-end but with less girls. I think you might like it.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2990197]This is news to me. Its more like a price hike than a tip in that case. A month or so ago, it was still 200 K on the slip they give you later (or more if you like). Whether its worth it or not is up to you I guess. Their business must be good to think this is a good idea. Anyway, I've mostly moved to other sources in Jakarta and hit Emporium just once or twice during my stays. So it doesn't move the needle for me that much.[/QUOTE]Can you share some locations similar to Emporium (except classic). Not really a fan for 1. 2 category girls there but the 1. 4 category is effectively 1. 9 now so very expensive. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2990167]Why so many mongers want to destroy this place and tipping for nothing? Locals don't tip or hardly like 50 k max.

Why people here talk about mandatory tip? There is no such thing.

Then some guys want to tip for naked pics.

Whats wrong with you people?

Nobody pays for naked pictures.

Its free all over internet.

If you want to take pics of the girl just ask her nicely and she will say yes most of the time.

No need to give the girls bad habits and tipping them for just being naked![/QUOTE]Doesn't the tip change by which venue you are at?

Example emporium has mandatory 200 k, Girls at delta don't even smile if I tip them 100 k? What's the benchmark like? I typically give 5-10% of base price.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2989733]For what it's worth, it's the same at Emporvium (and everywhere else in Jakarta?), though I guess the price possibly leads the girls at Emporvium to have "less mileage". On the other hand, there are much fewer girls at Emporivum also.[/QUOTE]Is it so? I have never asked but condoms have always been the norm at the few places I've been to. Infact some of the girls insisted CBJ as well, which I don't mind either. Never even got a hint at Emporium that BBFS was on offer. Never seen BBFS posts here except for classic on this forum, so I was assuming classic was an exception given low cost which incentivises girls for BBFS using tips.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2990331]Doesn't the tip change by which venue you are at?

Example emporium has mandatory 200 k, Girls at delta don't even smile if I tip them 100 k? What's the benchmark like? I typically give 5-10% of base price.[/QUOTE]You can tip whatever you want. Don't listen to the cheap charlie crowd here. If you think a few bucks will make the girl smile and make you feel better who is to say you shouldn't tip well? I will always tip generously for good service. But I won't be pressured into a tip if the girl shows a bad attitude. I have no problem saying no and I have no problem tipping 500 K. It just depends on what I feel the the girl deserves and my level of satisfaction. I'm not trying to get away with the cheapest $/ fuck ratio like some posters here. I'm trying to maximize the number of great fucks in the time I am there. This works for me and I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2990333]Is it so? I have never asked but condoms have always been the norm at the few places I've been to. Infact some of the girls insisted CBJ as well, which I don't mind either. Never even got a hint at Emporium that BBFS was on offer. Never seen BBFS posts here except for classic on this forum, so I was assuming classic was an exception given low cost which incentivises girls for BBFS using tips.[/QUOTE]Yeah, in my experience it is so. I think I've only been to Emporivum three times though, and one of the times I repeated with a girl from before, so my sampling size is rather limited.

I've not been to Travel myself, but from what I read here, price is about the same as Classic, but girls more or less insistent on condoms. If so I'm not so sure that price is the deciding factor, though I see the logic.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2990336]You can tip whatever you want. Don't listen to the cheap charlie crowd here. If you think a few bucks will make the girl smile and make you feel better who is to say you shouldn't tip well? I will always tip generously for good service. But I won't be pressured into a tip if the girl shows a bad attitude. I have no problem saying no and I have no problem tipping 500 K. It just depends on what I feel the the girl deserves and my level of satisfaction. I'm not trying to get away with the cheapest $/ fuck ratio like some posters here. I'm trying to maximize the number of great fucks in the time I am there. This works for me and I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.[/QUOTE]Theres nothing wrong with getting a good cost per fuck ratio. People play with what they got. Some have time. Some have looks. Others have money. No need to disparage others for how they game. Some guys can hit it 10 times a day. A good cost per fuck ratio is going to make sense. If you're older and can only do it once per day, sure, money is going to mean less, girls are probably less attracted to you as well, so you end up paying more generally. Everyone is trying to get laid, theres no one way to do it.

[QUOTE=NotConcerned;2989314]I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.

Long report. Tl; dr Classic hotel was good. I got what I wanted. 365 k + 200 k tips for both nights, BBFS and CIP. No issues with the girl. Great deal.

Some background (or skip ahead if you want just the report):

To start, I'm late-30's East Asian guy and athletic looking and live in the West. I'm also on PrEP and tested regularly. I've been to many sex places throughout SE Asia, been mostly playing in Bangkok these days, I have a few regulars there. That said, I was optimistic and hopeful about Jakarta based on the reports here and was eager to try things out.

Based on what I've read, I was set on 2 things: 1) bareback sex with CIP, I have a thing for creampies. I also don't like condoms. I haven't used one in years. Of course, I was going to ask the girl for consent. If she refused, I was willing to tip. If she refused the tip, my 2nd option was to play out some of my kinks and fetishes: 2) teasing, kissing, oral, pussy eating, edging and orgasm denial. I also had some sex toys with me. Basically if the girl didn't want to have bareback raw sex then I would rather have a playful teasing session instead.

Friday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).

Arrived at 7 PM Friday night. Went up 2 sets of escalators to the bar. There were around 75-100 girls scattered all around the venue. I would say the girls were all under 30, skinny and slender looking but they all smoked. I would say they rated 6 to 8 out of 10 based on looks.

Around 60% of the tables taken. Customers were mostly mid-40's to mid-50's Asian men. They looked to be 70 local and 30 foreign based on the interactions (language fluency and hand gestures). I did not see a single white foreigner.

There was live music and karaoke until 930 PM and then the DJ started playing.

When I arrived, mamasan recommended a few girls to me. I didn't want to be rushed so I kind of batted them away. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with just a single girl. Her name was Eva, short at 5 ft2, she had pretty makeup, decent boobs, and looked like a university student. She was a smoker and had mediocre teeth. I didn't reject her and just let her stay next to me. She spoke no English. Had to rely on a translation app to communicate.

After 15 min later, I took pity on her and decided to fuck. Got a room, paid 365 K to mamasan and we went downstairs to a room.

We kissed immediately in the room, she started to open up and didn't really have any hesitations. She held a condom in her hand and I took it away and said "no condom". She said "why" and I just said "I give you tip. " She quickly agreed. Things were looking good.

We stripped. She had darker skin than I was expecting but not a dealbreaker. I showered first then she washed herself. Then got to bed, full GFE, lots of body contact, licking and teasing. I didn't make her give me BJ, that's not really my thing. I did go DATY and ate her pussy for a while then made her sit on me. She had a moderately 2-week old hairy but delicious pussy. I don't mind hairy pussies. She enjoyed the oral I gave her.

After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.

Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.

I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.

I wanted to fuck her again but I was jetlagged and tired. By 930 PM once the DJ started playing, I tapped out. I told the girl I would come back the next day.

Saturday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).

Returned the next night at 8 PM. There were more girls than the previous night. Probably over* 100 girls, same look as before. Around 80% of the tables taken. Customers were a bit more diverse but still around 70 local and 30 foreigners. They were younger 30 to 50 years old, some even in their 20's and lots of groups. Foreigners included mostly Chinese and Korean, but I saw a group of 4 white guys and 1 black guy with an Asian friend.

Mamasan wanted to recommend girls to me but I said right away I was looking for Eva again. First mamasan had no idea who that was. I walked around and didn't see her. I found another mamasan who knew her and waited a few minutes for her to come out from the back.

I had a drink with her before we went down to a room. 365 k again to mamasan. This time in the room things were a bit more relaxed. We did mostly the same as the stuff we did last night but she didn't get as wet as before.

I had a hard time penetrating her. I had lube but I wanted her to get naturally wet. It was an on and off 5-10 min of trying to get hard and trying to penetrate her bareback. Did some missionary then doggystyle then missionary before I came inside her again. Ate the creampie. I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.

The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.

I didn't have the energy to fuck again, so I left shortly after at 10 PM.

I only spent 2 nights in Jakarta but will return in a few months. I really liked the place and price. The only thing I didn't like was all the smoking but that's unavoidable in Jakarta. I also wish there was a system or separate area for people who want to return later and not have to hang out at the bar (I don't drink or party). Ideally, I'd like a place where I could go fuck in the afternoon then return later in the evening to fuck again without all the drinking, smoking, mamasan hassle.[/QUOTE]You wonder why the first girl didn't give you a post shot cuddle / GFE? Because she saw you eating your own cum out of her pussy ffs.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2990331]Doesn't the tip change by which venue you are at?

Example emporium has mandatory 200 k, Girls at delta don't even smile if I tip them 100 k? What's the benchmark like? I typically give 5-10% of base price.[/QUOTE]I think 100,000 is appropriate in Classic and Travel. 200,000 in Emporium. The men who recklessly tip don't understand that they're ruining the place for themselves. If women accept tipping insane amounts as normal, some men will stop coming because they won't be treated well, as they can't afford the amounts, and customers will be lost. If customers aren't available, fewer women will come, which is also bad for those who recklessly tip.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2990421]Theres nothing wrong with getting a good cost per fuck ratio. People play with what they got. Some have time. Some have looks. Others have money. No need to disparage others for how they game. Some guys can hit it 10 times a day. A good cost per fuck ratio is going to make sense. If you're older and can only do it once per day, sure, money is going to mean less, girls are probably less attracted to you as well, so you end up paying more generally. Everyone is trying to get laid, theres no one way to do it.[/QUOTE]You're correct. Nothing wrong in trying to get laid for the least possible. But what is wrong is those people telling others what they should or should not do with their own money and time. We don't need a tipping police. No single person's tips are going to change the market. Especially Jakarta which is primarily a local demand market. I'm all for people doing whatever they want with their time, money and dick. I will challenge the last statement though that older mongers pay more. That's really not true in any mongering market. If you are talking about dating apps, that's different. But when buying pussy it doesn't really change the dynamics much.

Mostly, this is a "pro-Classic" report. Just arrived and I'm enjoying what Classic has to offer. Coming from 10 days in the Philippines I was anxious to see something new and different. I think I found that here. My plane landed late, 11:30 PM. Easy to get through customs but very difficult to find a working ATM machine. I was approached by a helpful young man who told me the machine downstairs did not work and I needed to go upstairs. He guided me upstairs to the departure area where there were 3 ATM machines. The card did not work at the first two, so I was getting a bit anxious. The third was the charm. Collected a set of very old red bills and the young man offered to get me a taxi. I said, How much? He called up an app and showed me a set of figures starting at 550,000 are. (about 35 USD). I said that this seemed high. He said that the drive was an hour. I wasn't sure. He took my rolling suitcase and helped me downstairs. I asked if he was the taxi driver. Honestly, he said, No. He was a salesman. Downstairs, he began to run towards a series of private cars with my suitcase. I had to yell after him to come back. He did. I took my bag and left him, heading further down the rank of cabs to a lady who looked more official. 250 K to drive me to Classic Hotel. Still seemed high, (15 USD) but I agreed. At least it felt normal.

Next surprise -- they drive on the left side of the road in Indonesia. OK. Live and learn. About 45 minutes later the driver -- who spoke no English -- dropped me at the hotel. Upon check in, there was a 200 K cash deposit for some reason he could not explain. Then it was up to my room. I would not disparage the rooms. Yes, they are dated and could use new wall paper or a paint job, but everything else was first rate. All the amenities. Clean. Trouble with the WIFI for the start. Someone came to the room and did nothing special to make it better. Then, a moment later the WIFI connected and I was on line. No explanation. That's the way of technology in my experience. You play with the devil and sometimes you're going to get bad internet. With no explanation.

In my tattered, ketchup stained shorts and rumpled shirt, I was intent on checking out the girls. After all, that is why I booked into the Classic. Girls on site. It was after 1 AM but there were about 80 girls bouncing around. Literally bouncing in small groups, with friends at their table. I was the only white guy in there. And there may have been 10 dudes in total, apart from me, all drunk. An extremely aggressive Mamasan grabbed my arm and dragged me to a table with 10 girls. I tried to tell her that I was just going to spend some time looking. She would have none of it. She got the girls all up and in my face. They were all cute but not exactly what I was looking for. More to the point, I wanted to walk around and check out the talent. Not easy to disengage me from the Mamasan who insisted I take one of her girls. But I got away and was then free to walk around. FYI. There are quite a number of Mamasan's, each willing to help. I ignored most of them until I found a friendly looking woman named Rosa. I told her I wanted "small and young". She brought me a girl who was taller than me and maybe 25 years old. I repeated "small". She laughed. OK. The next girl she brought me was perfect. Looked very very young. Said she was 22, which, later in the light of the room, I believed. Now here's the thing I did not get. 365 K to fuck her on the premises -- rooms downstairs. I said I wanted to take her up to my room, in this very same hotel. She said that this would cost me 1. 1 million more. Almost 70 USD. Going from 22 to 70 was a bit of a shock. I asked for an explanation but she did not have the English to explain. It's just one of those policy things, I guess. I paid her 365 K and the girl went to grab her bag. Turns out that the rooms downstairs are quite nice. The girl was named Amoi and could not have been sweeter. A caring wash down of Mr. Happy and the general region. She washed herself. She used listerine on my little friend before taking him BB into her mouth. Went on for ages. Would not agree to BBFS. I didn't argue as she seemed adamant. And good for her for protecting herself (trying to put a positive spin on this.) She got on top for Cowgirl and transitioned to what I call Butterfly Cowgirl, where she moves back and sits at an angle and I lean up at an angle and we both move our hips inward. In that position, with her perfect face and skin, it looked like I was fucking one of those young AI generated beauties you come across. Had I a camera handy I would have loved to grab a photo (I will next time, believe me.) Great sex. Tried to get her to do ass play, but did not want to. Later agreed when using the condom on her tiny fingers. A large mirror beside the bed was also great. Different positions and she was very loving and cooperative. I moved around, removed the condom and fucked her mouth as she leaned her head back over the end of the bed. She fingered me and I should have been able to cum. But wasn't able to. Too much travel today and I'm an old guy. But I was OK with this. Here's the best part. We stopped and I lay down and spooned with her for about half an hour, each of us rubbing the other softly. It was so gentle and relaxing. It went on for ages and I thought I was in heaven. A knock at the door and it was time to wash up. It was over an hour and she did a wonderful job so I tipped her 100 K. A smile to hold on to for my later dreams. We walked hand in hand back upstairs and parted. I was directed to the cashier. While on line I noticed that the place was closing. It was 2:30 AM, so that made sense. I was charged 5000. About 30 cents. Paid and left. I suppose normally I would have had beer on my bill. My first St. Paddy's Day with no beer all day (due to the travel and stomach issues). Weird to have sex without being drunk. But that's just me.

To answer a question. No indication that service was cut back due to Ramadan. Dozens of girls here to party. And it was a Monday night. I give Classic Hotel full marks for the friendly staff, beautiful girls and a comfortable stay. Through the booking app I got this place for 28 bucks a night.

Tonight I will try other venues around town. If they are half as good as my time at the Classico Bordello I will be in hog heaven.

Question: It's been a while since anyone has reported on the sketchy area out by the railroad tracks. A while ago this was a hot topic with a lot of advice as to how to find the place and what to expect. If anyone has any updated experience on mongering out in those "local" areas near the train tracks, please let me know. I am looking for that kind of adventure.

Stay safe, mates.

EQ.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2990421]Theres nothing wrong with getting a good cost per fuck ratio. People play with what they got. Some have time. Some have looks. Others have money. No need to disparage others for how they game. Some guys can hit it 10 times a day. A good cost per fuck ratio is going to make sense. If you're older and can only do it once per day, sure, money is going to mean less, girls are probably less attracted to you as well, so you end up paying more generally. Everyone is trying to get laid, theres no one way to do it.[/QUOTE]Isn't that exactly what he said? You do you?

I'm 21 pages into this and feel like I have a good image of 1001, malio, travel, classic, emporium. But is that it? Is that the only game in town? At 100 $ us dollars.

No one on motorbike down jalan tubagus angke onto daan mogot and checking things out reporting back. No one venturing into tanjung Priok or Cilincing. What about the streetwalker zone.

In front of the Cipinang prison?

There is one of three things goin on here:

1. members know, but are keeping their own little secrets.

2. these places, that are off the beaten path, are dangerous in the form of muggings / robberies?

3. there just isn't anything goin on elsewhere?

I don't really know the answer. The lack of breadth or lack of information has me thinking if I read another 20 pages will it be more of the same?

Anyone on here wants volunteer which / where the railroad tracks are that are mentioned? You mean the tracks near jatinegara?

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2990698]Isn't that exactly what he said? You do you?[/QUOTE]The disdain for those who try to pay less was pretty obvious in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2990629]You're correct. Nothing wrong in trying to get laid for the least possible. But what is wrong is those people telling others what they should or should not do with their own money and time. We don't need a tipping police. No single person's tips are going to change the market. Especially Jakarta which is primarily a local demand market. I'm all for people doing whatever they want with their time, money and dick. I will challenge the last statement though that older mongers pay more. That's really not true in any mongering market. If you are talking about dating apps, that's different. But when buying pussy it doesn't really change the dynamics much.[/QUOTE]I agree. People pay more, people pay less, not really anyone else's business. I appreciate the folks here who do report on what they pay. This you paid too much or you paid too little criticism just discourages people from doing so. They give us information we can use to make our own decisions.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2990717]I agree. People pay more, people pay less, not really anyone else's business. I appreciate the folks here who do report on what they pay. This you paid too much or you paid too little criticism just discourages people from doing so. They give us information we can use to make our own decisions.[/QUOTE]Like you, I welcome reports that include information about the tip, and also the girls reaction to it (happy, neutral, not happy). I don't think the problem is the criticism, but that some people here lack the basic manners to critique someone politely. For these people it's too easy to call people idiots, morons, etc. while criticising someone else for paying too much or too little and hiding behind a keyboard.

[QUOTE=Joe2422;2990506]I think 100,000 is appropriate in Classic and Travel. 200,000 in Emporium. The men who recklessly tip don't understand that they're ruining the place for themselves. If women accept tipping insane amounts as normal, some men will stop coming because they won't be treated well, as they can't afford the amounts, and customers will be lost. If customers aren't available, fewer women will come, which is also bad for those who recklessly tip.[/QUOTE]I agree, with your numbers also as long as it's a tip for doing something more than just providing the minimal service. That's why it's good if people include the tip amount so those who care can educate themselves on what a normal tip is in a new place. Those who want to ignore it, for whatever reason, will do that of course, though I agree with you it is not beneficial and I try to avoid doing that myself.

Same way Phillipines market got destroyed by hungry, thristy disabled westrens sending money for just telling them good morning.

I used to fuck a girl for 1500 peso and she would do anything, now she don't even talk unless I offer her 10,000 Peso.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2990167]Why so many mongers want to destroy this place and tipping for nothing? Locals don't tip or hardly like 50 k max.

Why people here talk about mandatory tip? There is no such thing.

Then some guys want to tip for naked pics.

Whats wrong with you people?

Nobody pays for naked pictures.

Its free all over internet.

If you want to take pics of the girl just ask her nicely and she will say yes most of the time.

No need to give the girls bad habits and tipping them for just being naked![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2990474]You wonder why the first girl didn't give you a post shot cuddle / GFE? Because she saw you eating your own cum out of her pussy ffs.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but guys cum inside a girl's mouth and are fine with post-sex cuddling, so not sure if that was really a factor. In any case, my point was it felt very rushed. After cumming, the girl wrapped things up quickly and was ready to dash. She cleaned and got dressed in a minute. I guess quick turnaround means more business / customers. But I asked her the next day and she said she only had 3 customers that night. Of course, no way for me to verify her statement.

At 6:00 I got a Grab taxi to check out Starmoon Bar in the Komplex. Thought I read they had a happy hour. Arrived and was the only one in the bar. And no happy hour to speak of. Only me and about 50 girls sitting on the couches. Saw they had Guinness, so I bought a can. Room temp. Tasted like shit. Talked to the waiter guy simply asking how young the girls are in this bar. He misunderstood, called to the Mamasan, and soon a cute, perky 19 year old named Lia was sitting next to me. She's the youngest, he seemed to say. That's not what I was trying to say, but whatever. I had no intention of doing the deed. Just wanted company. So I bought her a beer. She spoke pretty good English, "I learned in school. " She was joking with the waiter. I asked for a translation. She said, "he is a Christian so he is able to drink. I am Muslim, so I am not allowed to drink during Ramadan. " I pointed to the beer she was guzzling. She said, "Well, since I am going to have sex, I might as well have a beer. " I asked, "Girls can't have sex during Ramadan?" She said, No. I said, Well, you don't have to worry because we won't be having sex. She said, Yes we will be having sex. I said, No we won't. She said, Yes we will. I tried to explain that it was too early, I was not staying long, etc. She didn't understand and called over the Mamasan who could not translate anything to English. An odd moment because I insisted that we would not be having sex because I needed to go soon. Something was said by the Mamasan, and then Lia said, "If we don't have sex, I will go back there," meaning back to where the girls are. I said, OK. I paid for my beers and left. Me scratching my head. Lia was very very cute. But I did not want to finish my night at 6:00 PM. Across the street to Sari Ayu. Much cooler vibe here. More comfortable. Soccer on TV. And more than 100 girls all packed into one section of the room, all bunched together, on phones, putting on makeup, laughing. The Mamasan asked me to pick one. I told her "Maybe later. " She didn't like that answer. A bouncer dude who spoke English welcomed me. After getting a beer, I ask him about their policy. Can I buy a girl a drink without having sex with her? He said, No. If you buy them a drink you must pay 400 K to have sex. OK. I got to talking with another guy who did not believe that this was true. He called over the bouncer and then the Mamasan to confirm. Yes, if you buy a girl a drink, you must then pay to have sex with her. He spoke Indonesian well, so probed this a bit. There is a loophole. You can talk for 10 minutes and then not have sex, just by saying you did not like the girl. Wow. Choose your girls wisely, my friends. I will say, however, that the staff -- even later the Mamasan -- were very, very friendly and I could see hanging out here on a more regular basis. And, of course, the girls were all beautiful and young.

Took an ill-fated motor bike taxi, trying to head over to Raja Mas Club. The guy said he knew where it was. Turns out he didn't. Stopped a couple of times trying to tell me that we had arrived. I told him he was wrong. He knew he was wrong, just could not admit he was clueless. Asked men on the street and no one knew this club. Eventually, I took pity on the guy and paid him the negotiated 50 K and got off. Around the corner was the Fave Hotel and I found a proper taxi. He kind of knew where it was, but had GPS so he did find it. 20 K for that ride. Once inside Raja Mas I was surprised to see how small it was. About 12 girls sitting in a very dark room. Might have been cozy, but they all looked up at me -- old white guy in shorts and a t-shirt -- and said, "No thanks. " That was fine. I was really on this side of town in order to experience the train tracks open air bordello. So I left and started walking up to find the train tracks. More to follow.

After spending years trying to understand how Jakarta works, and in particular, the mysterious train tracks, I finally found it. By piecing together info on the forum and by using google maps, I located it and saw it was walking distance from Raja Mas Club. Google maps identified a nearby Dunkin Donuts -- huge, modern store in the middle of a run down set of buidings -- which was a landmark for me. I walked up that street, the street with Raja Mas Club, heading towards Gedong Panjang station. You see small roads to the left, but keep walking. Once under the train trestle -- a loud train rushed by to confirm what was above me -- I turned left, walked parallel to the train tracks, cut in through a gate that brought me close to the raised rail bed and then saw the ladder. Actually, what I did was follow a group of Indonesian guys who seemed to know where they were going. A precarious ladder up and into a hole in the wall. Suddenly you are up on top of the train tracks. Literally up on two sets of active -- bold face -- train tracks. A loud and dangerous train rushes by about every 15 minutes. Two sets of tracks -- east and west -- and along side, on the shoulders, are the small groups of people, under tarps that have been attached to the walls behind. You walk down the tracks and look for the groups of girls sitting together, in the dark, and hope you are not too drunk to hear when the train approaches.

One thing I will remark on. Some have said that "the place does not open until 10:00. " This always sounded odd to me. It's not a "place" like, a club with regular hours. It's always open. I'm sure more girls show up as it gets later, but I got there at 8:30 or so and there were a number of established groups of girls already sitting, waiting for action. I walked the distance until two old men told me not to go further because there were no more girls up ahead. I climbed down through two different holes just to see what life was like at ground level, along the tracks. Small shops and a couple mom and pop restaurants were there, getting ready for business. I passed a group of young teenage girls, giggling upon seeing me. They practiced their English on me and did a lot of smiling. Very cute but young, and certainly not "working girls. " More like, neighborhood girls. I climbed back up the walk back along the tracks, wondering if I was going to pick up a girl. The few I had seen via the flashlights of the men who stood out in front to show me looked bored and uninterested. I am sure I could have studied the different lots more and found a real beauty, but it was starting to drizzle and I knew I needed to make a move. As I walked along -- continually looking over my shoulder in case a train was coming -- a woman popped out in front of me. She shined her flashlight on three girls, sitting on chairs under a tarp. One was smiling broadly and giggling with laughter. Eager to entertain. I could not resist. How much? 200 K. Ok. The girl, named Reina, looked about 18 and lead me through yet another opening in the wall, down a ladder to a small area of rooms. More like closets, the dimensions of a standard mattress. Shoes outside, closed the door, dimmed the lights, undressed. She shrieked in delight upon seeing my penis. Not sure why, except she seemed a little bit silly. Could have been one of the first white cocks she'd seen -- wishful thinking here. She sucked eagerly. I knew there would be no discussion of condoms. DFK with genuine enthusiasm. When I touched her pussy she was very wet. So hot. She would not allow me to finger her, which is always weird to me, since in a few seconds something else was going to go in there. She lay down and I put it in. So tight. I spit on my cock to help it along and she started to moan loudly. While fucking her, I reached back and got my camera. Turned it on but the image was all dark. She understood. In Indonesion she pointed at the light. It turned out she was helping me locate the light switch. Flipped on the light, camera was all good to go and Reina performed like a champ. No hesitation. Great video. I tried to get her to finger my ass, but she was reluctant. I offered a tip. She compromised and tickled it a little, which is just what I needed to cum. I love to have a girl suck me after pulling out of her wet pussy, so I moved to her mouth and she accepted me for a nice mouth fuck. I pulled out to cum on her tits, but she balked at that. Napkins were placed on her chest with the directive to cum there. OK. A wild and crazy sex cat who draws the line at cumming on her tits. Whatever. We finished and I paid her the 200 K, then paid her a 100 K tip and she was extremely happy to receive it. Once again, giddy with laughter. We dressed and crawled up and out of the hole. She left with a kiss. I was feeling the afterglow and did not want to leave. A woman along the tracks called to me to ask if I wanted coffee. That sounded good, since it was starting to drizzle again. I sat and drank some pretty good instant coffee while the two woman tried to speak to me in Indonesian. Nice people who I did not understand. Time to go. I got turned around and had to back track to find the place where I had entered, so I was approached by several men who were offering me their girls. Shining the flashlight in their faces. They all looked OK. Not as cute as the girl I was with, nor as cute as the girls from Classic, but probably doable. If they had the right attitude. It would be hit or miss, I suppose. I was able to locate the same hole in the wall and went through, then down the precarious ladder and out. Upon leaving it was approaching 10:00, so I will confirm that good sex is possible even as early as 8:30, and on a Tuesday night. Also will state that I always felt safe. No worries anywhere I went in Jakarta, and the train tracks were no different.

The locations of the Dunkin Donuts was key since I did not have a SIM card and needed to find a taxi. Note: I was advised that it's good to get an Indonesian SIM card since, as I discovered, you will find yourself in the middle of no where and there might not be taxis around. There certainly were no rides around the Train Track area -- except maybe those blue tuktuk things. Dunkin Donuts has free internet, so I got on line and ordered a Grab taxi as the donut shop was about to close. Three minutes later I was cruising back to Classic hotel.

I hope this summary helps those who, like me, have wanted to understand this mysterious spot on the Train Tracks. For years I have wondered about what it's all about and, after experiencing it, I can say that it is pretty wild. I could become a regular, if I lived locally. I would like to return on a Saturday night to see how many girls are there. I recommend bringing your own small flash light to shine on their faces. And stick around to have coffee with one of the ladies who are trying to make money in a different way. I'll try to put a photo below showing the ladder that goes up to the hole in the wall. If you knew the area better, you could probably locate another spot to enter, perhaps on the other side of the railroad tracks. There is more than one way to get up there. But however you go, you still must climb to get up on top of the train tracks. And don't forget to look out for trains!

Hi plantsmoke here. I'm arriving Jakarta after ramadan. Anyone kind enough to give me a short tutorial on getting out of Jakarta airport? I have 100 pounds of luggage. Is the grab app good for automobiles or only motobikes. ID rather not learn thru getting ripped off. Thanks.

[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2990865]After spending years trying to understand how Jakarta works, and in particular, the mysterious train tracks, I finally found it. By piecing together info on the forum and by using google maps, I located it and saw it was walking distance from Raja Mas Club. Google maps identified a nearby Dunkin Donuts -- huge, modern store in the middle of a run down set of buidings -- which was a landmark for me. I walked up that street, the street with Raja Mas Club, heading towards Gedong Panjang station.

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She would not allow me to finger her, which is always weird to me, since in a few seconds something else was going to go in there. [/QUOTE]LOL, what an excellent report.

About the fingering. Two good reasons why girls might not like that:

1) Lots of guys don't take care of their nails, and are not particularly careful about fingering, so many girls have probably experienced guys hurting them inside due small cuts caused by the nails.

2) Presumably you don't go around touching all sorts of things with your dick, but your hands and fingers will be very dirty unless you just washed them.

Edward Q:

Chapeaux: one of the really informative reports about a not so well known area. Only a few of the typical readers from here will dare to go there.

Just a little addon: there are entrances to the alley on the ground floor just left hand side when you see the portal of the road between the train line and the highway. It saves you climbing the ladder.

Had Chinese food for breakfast. I guess here they just call it food. Don't know why I was craving pork and noodles at 9 AM. Found a place where the locals eat at called Bakmi Aboen, tucked away in a little alley, 15 minute walk from Classic Hotel. It was OK and like everything else here, very cheap. I spent the afternoon walking around. Headed to the area with the big mall and US style fast food places, near the Four Seasons. Thought I might like a beer. Not easy to find a "bar" that looked like a bar. Finally found a local corner eatery where those fasting for Ramadan were arriving to get their fill. Fortunately, the shop owner sold beer. The large size Bali Hai went down smooth. All of this is to say that I learned it is not so easy to find a comfortable place to drink in Indonesia. Taxis and Grab cars, along with a little research in advance, is required. Fortunately they sell beer at the girlie bars.

Enough of that. Arrived at the Classic Hotel Bordello at around 7:30.100+ girls in attendance, most sitting on couches. Most bored. I got a few smiles from a few girls, which is a real turn on, but the ones who did not smile had the look of, "Don't even try it old man. " Once again accosted by the Mamasans. I hoped to find the woman I dealt with two days ago but there were just too many Mamasan's and it was too dark in there. Plus there was a live band playing. I will reserve my opinion on what I thought of their music. I noticed that the girls sitting at the tables seemed much more engaging than those on the couches. A Mamasan literally threw me at four girls who were sitting at a nearby table. All of them young and hot. I couldn't decide which to pick. All smiling and welcoming. The Mamasan suggested I take 2. Now that's an idea, I thought. 500 K for two girls, she quoted me. Since one girl is 365 K, I thought, Hey, that's a pretty good deal. I asked, "Will they kiss?" Meaning, each other. But she misunderstood it to mean will they kiss me, not each other. She said yes. I figured a girl-on-girl show would be a long shot anyway. I paid in advance and took the two girls who smiled the most downstairs. Or rather, they took me. In the room everyone showered. I finished first and watched the two of them shower. What beautiful bodies. I got out my camera and asked if I could take a photo. "No!" they both screamed. I offered a tip. They said No, then asked how much. I said 100 K each. They said, No. It's not enough. Then the blond girl said something like, All tipping must be 200 K each in this place. Not 100 K each. I said that was bullshit and that it was not true. They said that was their price. I told them to forget about it. I will emphasize that this was all playful banter back and forth. They were clearly testing the waters and were not trying to be mean about it. In a friendly way I just said, OK. We don't need to tip. Which sort of worked to my advantage in that they now knew that there might be extra money to be had here.

So we got down to business. The one girl that was dyed blonde was the aggressive one and after wiping junior down with listerine, went to town. Started low and worked her way up. The other girl spent her time sucking my nipples and kissing me. Also I finger fucked the tall one while she was licking my nips. At this point I stopped them and asked them to kiss each other. They laughed at that. Blondie said, "I kiss you. She kiss you. But friend don't kiss friend. " How about for a tip? No. They would not have it. After the BBBJ it was time to penetrate. I said no condom. They said that this means a tip. We agreed on a price and Blondie mounted me. Throughout the entire hour. More like 45 minutes. The two girls would not stop yapping with each other in their language. Commenting and reacting and clearly not including me in the conversation. This I suppose is the downside of having two girls who are friends. At one point I asked what they were talking about. They said they were talking about a mutual friend. Well, that's pretty typical for young girls, I thought. But during sex? Oh, well.

In any event, the BBFS was awesome. We swapped girls and I had the tall girl suck me. I directed her downward and she had no issue with rimming me as well. She then mounted me. At this point we had all begun to be playful. The mirror right beside the bed was so cool. While enjoying my copyrighted Butterfly Cowgirl move with the tall girl, I took Blondie's hand and had her rub her friend's pussy. Both girls reacted, startled, but Blondie did not pull her hand away. They just laughed about it, making comments in their language, but not stoppoing. I helped her rub her friends clit. Which got a positive reaction from both girls. While penetrating the tall girl and while Blondie rubbed her friend's pussy, I knew that my fuse was getting shorter. I pulled out and straddled the tall girl to cum on her tits while directing Blondie to finger my ass. She was now at a point where she wasn't going to argue any more. She even seemed to like doing it. Anyway, that's how it ended. With me blowing my meager load on those gorgeous tiny tits. The tall girl jumped up quick to shower, as did Blondie. I forced my way in there so the three of us could wash off together and I could rub their asses with soap just one more time. I don't know how these girls can so calmly shower naked together and not think about touching each other. Seems perfectly natural. Anyway, I tipped them each 200 for good service. No thank you or anything. This was the added cost of no condom, I suppose, plus the fingering that I enjoyed so much. Since the last girl I had at Classic would not do BBFS without protection, I was happy to have the pleasure of sticking it in both these girls sans rubber. Oh, and I was able to grab one parting shot --see below-- which I will enjoy for some time.

We walked back upstairs. I paid my bill of 47 K, which included a beer, and called it a night. On my way out I scanned the sea of beautiful girls before me, telling myself that Jakarta is amazing. Bless this awesome establishment and all the young girls who come here to earn their living. They made at least one old man very happy indeed.

Off to Bangkok tomorrow. Hope you all have fun with your dates. And stay safe.

EQ.

Avoid the cabbies and fake Grab touts at the exit. They will give you ever lies and charge you 2 x or 3 x Grab rate.

Book Grab and wait for it to arrive, may 5, 10 minutes max.

[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2990865]After spending years trying to understand how Jakarta works, and in particular, the mysterious train tracks, I finally found it. By piecing together info on the forum and by using google maps, I located it and saw it was walking distance from Raja Mas Club. Google maps identified a nearby Dunkin Donuts -- huge, modern store in the middle of a run down set of buidings -- which was a landmark for me. I walked up that street, the street with Raja Mas Club, heading towards Gedong Panjang station. You see small roads to the left, but keep walking. Once under the train trestle -- a loud train rushed by to confirm what was above me -- I turned left, walked parallel to the train tracks, cut in through a gate that brought me close to the raised rail bed and then saw the ladder. Actually, what I did was follow a group of Indonesian guys who seemed to know where they were going. A precarious ladder up and into a hole in the wall. Suddenly you are up on top of the train tracks. Literally up on two sets of active -- bold face -- train tracks. A loud and dangerous train rushes by about every 15 minutes. Two sets of tracks -- east and west -- and along side, on the shoulders, are the small groups of people, under tarps that have been attached to the walls behind. You walk down the tracks and look for the groups of girls sitting together, in the dark, and hope you are not too drunk to hear when the train approaches.

One thing I will remark on. Some have said that "the place does not open until 10:00. " This always sounded odd to me. It's not a "place" like, a club with regular hours. It's always open. I'm sure more girls show up as it gets later, but I got there at 8:30 or so and there were a number of established groups of girls already sitting, waiting for action. I walked the distance until two old men told me not to go further because there were no more girls up ahead. I climbed down through two different holes just to see what life was like at ground level, along the tracks. Small shops and a couple mom and pop restaurants were there, getting ready for business. I passed a group of young teenage girls, giggling upon seeing me. They practiced their English on me and did a lot of smiling. Very cute but young, and certainly not "working girls. " More like, neighborhood girls. I climbed back up the walk back along the tracks, wondering if I was going to pick up a girl. The few I had seen via the flashlights of the men who stood out in front to show me looked bored and uninterested. I am sure I could have studied the different lots more and found a real beauty, but it was starting to drizzle and I knew I needed to make a move. As I walked along -- continually looking over my shoulder in case a train was coming -- a woman popped out in front of me. She shined her flashlight on three girls, sitting on chairs under a tarp. One was smiling broadly and giggling with laughter. Eager to entertain. I could not resist. How much? 200 K. Ok. The girl, named Reina, looked about 18 and lead me through yet another opening in the wall, down a ladder to a small area of rooms. More like closets, the dimensions of a standard mattress. Shoes outside, closed the door, dimmed the lights, undressed. She shrieked in delight upon seeing my penis. Not sure why, except she seemed a little bit silly. Could have been one of the first white cocks she'd seen -- wishful thinking here. She sucked eagerly. I knew there would be no discussion of condoms. DFK with genuine enthusiasm. When I touched her pussy she was very wet. So hot. She would not allow me to finger her, which is always weird to me, since in a few seconds something else was going to go in there. She lay down and I put it in. So tight. I spit on my cock to help it along and she started to moan loudly. While fucking her, I reached back and got my camera. Turned it on but the image was all dark. She understood. In Indonesion she pointed at the light. It turned out she was helping me locate the light switch. Flipped on the light, camera was all good to go and Reina performed like a champ. No hesitation. Great video. I tried to get her to finger my ass, but she was reluctant. I offered a tip. She compromised and tickled it a little, which is just what I needed to cum. I love to have a girl suck me after pulling out of her wet pussy, so I moved to her mouth and she accepted me for a nice mouth fuck. I pulled out to cum on her tits, but she balked at that. Napkins were placed on her chest with the directive to cum there. OK. A wild and crazy sex cat who draws the line at cumming on her tits. Whatever. We finished and I paid her the 200 K, then paid her a 100 K tip and she was extremely happy to receive it. Once again, giddy with laughter. We dressed and crawled up and out of the hole. She left with a kiss. I was feeling the afterglow and did not want to leave. A woman along the tracks called to me to ask if I wanted coffee. That sounded good, since it was starting to drizzle again. I sat and drank some pretty good instant coffee while the two woman tried to speak to me in Indonesian. Nice people who I did not understand. Time to go. I got turned around and had to back track to find the place where I had entered, so I was approached by several men who were offering me their girls. Shining the flashlight in their faces. They all looked OK. Not as cute as the girl I was with, nor as cute as the girls from Classic, but probably doable. If they had the right attitude. It would be hit or miss, I suppose. I was able to locate the same hole in the wall and went through, then down the precarious ladder and out. Upon leaving it was approaching 10:00, so I will confirm that good sex is possible even as early as 8:30, and on a Tuesday night. Also will state that I always felt safe. No worries anywhere I went in Jakarta, and the train tracks were no different.

The locations of the Dunkin Donuts was key since I did not have a SIM card and needed to find a taxi. Note: I was advised that it's good to get an Indonesian SIM card since, as I discovered, you will find yourself in the middle of no where and there might not be taxis around. There certainly were no rides around the Train Track area -- except maybe those blue tuktuk things. Dunkin Donuts has free internet, so I got on line and ordered a Grab taxi as the donut shop was about to close. Three minutes later I was cruising back to Classic hotel.

I hope this summary helps those who, like me, have wanted to understand this mysterious spot on the Train Tracks. For years I have wondered about what it's all about and, after experiencing it, I can say that it is pretty wild. I could become a regular, if I lived locally. I would like to return on a Saturday night to see how many girls are there. I recommend bringing your own small flash light to shine on their faces. And stick around to have coffee with one of the ladies who are trying to make money in a different way. I'll try to put a photo below showing the ladder that goes up to the hole in the wall. If you knew the area better, you could probably locate another spot to enter, perhaps on the other side of the railroad tracks. There is more than one way to get up there. But however you go, you still must climb to get up on top of the train tracks. And don't forget to look out for trains![/QUOTE]Would you be able to share e xactly where this place is on google maps?

Hi this is plantsmoke; thankyou cap. Solo for clarifying the airport situation. However I have one more task that needs to be done at the airport. I need to get an unlimited indo. Sim card.

That allows hot spot data for my laptop at the airport. Which is the best sim card at the airport?

To use this forum another forum, in Jakarta I am going to have to use a VPN, no? What VPN company / site is rtecommended in Jakarta?

This is Plantsmoke. I am arriving Jakarta at the end of ramadan. I am privy, after laborius work, to some information that would compensate for the.

"cleanse campaign" that Indonesia embarked on.

I briefly went to KASKUS indo. Language forum and for whatever reason could not navigate the website. One thing led to another and I started entering PSK, PROSTITUSI.

In a google search box. To my surprise what came back was indo. News media reports. These reports are very raw, need to be followed with google maps research, and then of course.

On-foot field research.

Why hasnt anyone else done this? Because it was laborius work, having to continually hit translate link. Laborius and time consuming.

I have decided to release these, in time, to this forum. Possibly under a new thread for the following reasons:

1. The power of this forum members' field research. If members here are willing to climb a treacherous ladder, within feet of a every-15 minute speeding train in north Jakarta.

Then they will do anything for pussy.

2. another forum members patronising these off-the-path areas will "push back" at the establishments' religious cleanse anti vice moverment.

3. I read often about classic horror stories. It is because those girls are being pounded on every day.

4. After Classic frustration, which on this forum I see frequently, and 100 $ emporium there is a need for alternative venues / areas.

5. For me personally, there is nothing more erotic than fucking in one of these make-shift 8-hour blue tents that seem edndemic in these reports I have.

6. patronising these areas, lokalisasis and streetwalker zones, will reduce the chatter in these areas, "holy shit there is a white man".

Note: these reports are raw, can include outdated info. Info that is out dated because of a police raid. However after a raid it seems the indo. Hookers always return to the area. Who iks game for this endeavor I / we are on?

This is plantsmoke. I wanted to provide an example of a report (indonesian media) that I have acquired:

Even during the fasting month, prostitution activities on jalan Inspeksi Kali Sekretaris, grogol Petamburan, West Jakarta, are rampant.

Apart from these locations, PSKs were also seen hanging out on Jalan Daan Mogot, on the side of the road from grogol towards Kalideres.

,precisely next to the Padang restaurant, near the Top 1 discoteque.

MORE.

A number of "pockets" where commercial sex workers (csws) transit and transact in several corners of the city of Jakarta, are currently increasingly visited by sex-hungry.

Men. Ironically there haver been no significant actions to control them from Satpol PP (civil service police unit) officers or the Social service Sub-dept. Based on a brief.

Observation, the locations of "csws" . Pulogadung Industrial area (PT JIEP), The Gunung Antang Railway tracks on Jl. Mataram Raya, along the road in front of Cipinang Prison and.

Along the Cipinang Railway tracks. In the Pulogadung Industrial Area, tents and warem (dimly lit stalls) have been set up since the afternoon. "The sound of music like in a bar, can be heard clearly.

By motorcyclists and cars passing by because the warem is located on the side of the road to the Rawakepiting Chicken Slaughterhouse (TPA).

NOTE**These girls might try to blend in / conceal with the durian sellers / vendors.

In conclusion this new thread will feature locations and no story telling. You will be spared the novelist / storytelling that is painful as fuck on this site! Also I request no comments.

"Well he hasnt even done the research" . I AM TELLING YOU AHEAD OF TIME THESE ARFE RAW REPORTS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WEBSITE I AM CONSTANTLY HAVING TO LOG IN, AND IF I TAKE ON THIS ENDEAVOR AND AM CRAFTING A REPORT AND IT TIMES OUT (WHICH IS OUTRAGEOUS WEBSITE SOFTWARE) I WILL IMMEDIASTELY STOP THIS ENDEAVOR OUT OF FRUSTRATION.

So I land on the 1st of April in Jakarta, I've texted my usual mamasan in Classic she told me is closed until the 3rd. What can I do for the first couple of days?

I understood it's a Muslim celebration so is there more Chinese oriented clubs opened on those days?

I would hate to loose 2 days of my sex holidays!

Thanks for the advice.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2991213]So I land on the 1st of April in Jakarta, I've texted my usual mamasan in Classic she told me is closed until the 3rd. What can I do for the first couple of days?

I understood it's a Muslim celebration so is there more Chinese oriented clubs opened on those days?

I would hate to loose 2 days of my sex holidays!

Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]You have been advised not to come at this time of the year so take your responsabilities dude!

Thank you for your reports.

Can I ask how old is old?

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989646]Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying..[/QUOTE]I agree with you. You can pick from way more girls in 1001 at same price range or even cheaper now. Better quality and plenty rooms. And you can choose imports if you want to change your taste.

The only edge Empo has is the pool time. Feel like watching orgy when many couples are in the pool at same time.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2991132]Hi this is plantsmoke; thankyou cap. Solo for clarifying the airport situation. However I have one more task that needs to be done at the airport. I need to get an unlimited indo. Sim card.

That allows hot spot data for my laptop at the airport. Which is the best sim card at the airport?

To use this forum another forum, in Jakarta I am going to have to use a VPN, no? What VPN company / site is rtecommended in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]Telkomsel si cards are sold at the airport right by the downstairs ATM that never has any money. You walk right by it after getting your luggage. They also have to register your IMEI number for it to work or something. You can however get this little box that you out the sim card in and then it puts out a wifi signal like a Hotspot.

Yes you will need to use a VPN to access ISG and also surprisingly Reddit. I recommend using Windscribe VPN. I used it the whole 2 months I was there and it worked great. It's a free app that gives you 2 gb of VPN usage (or 10 gb if you register your email) per month.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2991129]Would you be able to share e xactly where this place is on google maps?[/QUOTE]In google maps, write Gedong Panjang station Jakarta. It's right there.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2991213]So I land on the 1st of April in Jakarta, I've texted my usual mamasan in Classic she told me is closed until the 3rd. What can I do for the first couple of days?

I understood it's a Muslim celebration so is there more Chinese oriented clubs opened on those days?

I would hate to loose 2 days of my sex holidays!

Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]You can try to head to Kelapa Gading and to try your luck there. Look up Grand Sumo or Kings Cross. But as mentioned most places will be closed from 3/27-4/6.

Since a good amount of the workers are going to head home and see their family in this period, which includes the cashier / bouncer / barmen etc. Can't really run a business if there's no one to work it.

Some places may open up earlier by a couple of days, but you might just need to try your luck with dating apps.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2991145]This is Plantsmoke. I am arriving Jakarta at the end of ramadan. I am privy, after laborius work, to some information that would compensate for the.

"cleanse campaign" that Indonesia embarked on.

I briefly went to KASKUS indo. Language forum and for whatever reason could not navigate the website. One thing led to another and I started entering PSK, PROSTITUSI.

In a google search box. To my surprise what came back was indo. News media reports. These reports are very raw, need to be followed with google maps research, and then of course.

On-foot field research.

Why hasnt anyone else done this? Because it was laborius work, having to continually hit translate link. Laborius and time consuming.

I have decided to release these, in time, to this forum. Possibly under a new thread for the following reasons:

1. The power of this forum members' field research. If members here are willing to climb a treacherous ladder, within feet of a every-15 minute speeding train in north Jakarta.

Then they will do anything for pussy.

2. another forum members patronising these off-the-path areas will "push back" at the establishments' religious cleanse anti vice moverment.

3. I read often about classic horror stories. It is because those girls are being pounded on every day.

4. After Classic frustration, which on this forum I see frequently, and 100 $ emporium there is a need for alternative venues / areas.

5. For me personally, there is nothing more erotic than fucking in one of these make-shift 8-hour blue tents that seem edndemic in these reports I have.

6. patronising these areas, lokalisasis and streetwalker zones, will reduce the chatter in these areas, "holy shit there is a white man".

Note: these reports are raw, can include outdated info. Info that is out dated because of a police raid. However after a raid it seems the indo. Hookers always return to the area. Who iks game for this endeavor I / we are on?[/QUOTE]Hi. Can you explain what you mean by horror stories at classic?

Horror stories? Just read the forum. Seems every other girl is a starfish, puts two condoms on your joint.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2991485]Hi. Can you explain what you mean by horror stories at classic?[/QUOTE]He probably means the very few who absolutely insist on condoms and then give really bad service saying your dick is too big and not letting you fuck them right, squirming around and saying Saket. In my experience out of 50+ I only had one really bad one like this and one that did BBBJCIM because she refused bbfscip. I think 3 total made me use condoms. I know with civvies and lokasari the condom rate is 0% at classic it's not 0% but it's pretty close. If you get one that makes you wear a condom that is the outlier not the norm at classic.

Plant smoke here. Allright well maybe I stand corrected. When you read these forums, there is a lot of reading "between the tea leaves" if you know what I mean? The only way ill know for sure is to sample it myself; in a couple of weeks. I have gotten into magic tricks. Some from the adams company. Hoperfully I will be able to hold off the mamasans with magic long enough to properly interview a girl. Picking them off the couch, sight mostly unseen, is a lottery. I will pay for a lady drink, but like others here, no shots.

As my indonesian adventure nears I have entertained the idea of returning to Batam, but it confuses me that in the batam thread there has not been a post in 6 months.

This is plantsmoke. From memories of Pacific disco? Batam while in Indo it is a good idea to have a flashlight. Because some reports I have regarding dimly lit stalls, and hookers setting up 8-hour blue tents on the side-of-the-road in Jakarta.

I'm in Bangkok now. Should I get a flashlight here? Ideally I could buy a mini-mag light that would invert into a lamp? Do they have ace hardwares in Jakarta? Thanks.

Ok thankyou; telkomsel sim card at the airport. I'm not going to get a black box for hotspot. I'm just going to use my smart phone as the hotspot. But the telkomsel sim has to be a 30 day unlimited plan thanks.

[QUOTE=BeanShi;2991462]You can try to head to Kelapa Gading and to try your luck there. Look up Grand Sumo or Kings Cross. But as mentioned most places will be closed from 3/27-4/6.

Since a good amount of the workers are going to head home and see their family in this period, which includes the cashier / bouncer / barmen etc. Can't really run a business if there's no one to work it.

Some places may open up earlier by a couple of days, but you might just need to try your luck with dating apps.[/QUOTE]New Royal in Kota Indah is opening up 4/2 according to their telegram (which BTW is the best app I've found for just looking at talent in Jakarta at various places). It looks like other connected place are closed too: MTR, Mega, HR Vip but open 4/2. Other spots mention 4/3 on tele, it's probably not a total waste land but the weekend looks like it will be dead and Friday, Monday, Tuesday and probobly not back to normal until Saturday 4/5 or the following Monday. I'm in the same boat, had tried to plan ahead, but my time off got bumped forward 5 days. Luckily there are other places to go first like Bali or Singapore or Thailand for a few days, whatever.

Plantsmoke. Amazing that this Indonesian cleanse campaign (the elimination of the lokalisasis e. G. Kalijodo) has mainly effected the local vendor / motobike rider out for a night. It would have been nice to see an uptick in rapes afterwards, as if to say, "see, see what you've done indo government"?

There was a lokalisasi north of the airport in Dadap that was destroyed. I wonder what would happen if you went there and got a motodriver to get you some girls?

You know in a matter like this you have to be thick skinned. Especially if your website is having / experiencing glitches. Here I am diligently going back 35 pages here, with surprisingly little change in time.

(Imagine the poem writers on this thread if kalijodo, rawa malang, dadap was still alive today; time would virtually stand still when thread pages were turned.).

SO after 35 pagers were read, somehow I, the next day, got bogged down and started reading pages THAT I THOUGHT I had already read. Page 29 01-09-25 June Fly "What are some other bars near Block M in south Jakarta besides mr. Braid and mars"? An entry that I had never read!

It happened on other pages going back as well. I know what I have read! Do you know how frustrating this is? Trying to be thourough and meticulolus as you read this thread? This is really inexcusable glitching. I implore the administrators to let this post go through because it is from the heart.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2991522]Horror stories? Just read the forum. Seems every other girl is a starfish, puts two condoms on your joint.[/QUOTE]I take it when a girl asks for two condoms you can go back and ask the mamasan for a different girl without additional charge.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2991747]I take it when a girl asks for two condoms you can go back and ask the mamasan for a different girl without additional charge.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure you can't because they already write up the paper slip thing with that girl and go cash it out with the cashier before you even get to the room and then the room registers the girl's and and your number from your bracelet too.

Question, how do you know if a parlour offers extras?

If they are open 24/7 you can just assume you do and that there will be a line up?

I'm looking for places in the block M area. Are prices similar to North Jakarta?

And what should they be ± in 2025?

Thank you for the help.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2979363]What assumption? I made a statement of intent then asked a question...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2991778]I'm pretty sure you can't because they already write up the paper slip thing with that girl and go cash it out with the cashier before you even get to the room and then the room registers the girl's and and your number from your bracelet too.[/QUOTE]The secret to have fun in classic is to realise quickly if the girl is a dud. For me that was the case in almost 50% of new picks. Then just accept that your money is lost, go back straight to the main room and choose another girl. Once you know a couple of girls you like to repeat with as a backup plan, this procedure becomes actually quite smooth.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2991802]The secret to have fun in classic is to realise quickly if the girl is a dud. For me that was the case in almost 50% of new picks. Then just accept that your money is lost, go back straight to the main room and choose another girl. Once you know a couple of girls you like to repeat with as a backup plan, this procedure becomes actually quite smooth.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%.

This exact scenario happened to me at classic in November. I had picked a skinny pretty girl with more Chinese looking facial features, she also had crooked teeth (that didn't bother me). In the room she became a total ***** and demanded 500 k for BBFS and I told her no that the max I would giver her is 200 k. Then the whole rest of the session she was being stupid. Telling me I was too big and not letting me penetrate her right and saying sakit at any point I did penetrate her. I just ended the session and counted it as a loss.

I then went back out and explained to the mamasan what happened and I picked another girl from further back by the pool tables. I just went straight to her and she smiled at me and I picked her, I didn't wait for a mamasan to show me a line up.

Then as we were walking to the room the first girl was coming out and she told some thing to the new girl in bahasa. In the room I used Google translate to ask her what the first girl had said. And she replied that "she said you don't like to use condoms but I don't think that will he a problem" and she gave me bbfscip and great service. I believe I tipped her 150 k and she was very happy with that and I felt satisfied as well.

I posted a report about this when it actually happened should be sometime in November 2024.

So yea there can be some bad apples at classic but I feel they are not the majority. I later would pick girls who were friends of the girls that I would get BBFS from and that would work strategically to ensure that I get BBFS from the new one and less probability of a bad service.

There was one girl in particular named Shentiya who sat to the right of the cashiers on that couch right by the changing room. I fucked like 10 of her friends and they all were great. I would have her come to my table and say to her in bahasa "aku mau teman tanpa kondom" and she would introduce me to her friends, and they would always give me good service. The only thing I regret is there was one who got away named Nindy who I was supposed to fuck but I fucked her friend Lesta instead and then I told Nindy I would come back for her besok but when I came back the next day and subsequent days I never cound find her.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2991431]In google maps, write Gedong Panjang station Jakarta. It's right there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing.

50% of new classic picks are duds?. I don't know, is it just me, or are those classic horror stories?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2991956]50% of new classic picks are duds?. I don't know, is it just me, or are those classic horror stories?[/QUOTE]It's not 50% but it's best to weed out the bad ones. You can use strategies to avoid them such as making eye contact and seeing if they smile at you or not, or as I mentioned having one that gave good service introduce her friends from her group to you. Just try to pick girls that have a good vibe and this will decrease the chances of a bad experience.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2992039]It's not 50% but it's best to weed out the bad ones. You can use strategies to avoid them such as making eye contact and seeing if they smile at you or not, or as I mentioned having one that gave good service introduce her friends from her group to you. Just try to pick girls that have a good vibe and this will decrease the chances of a bad experience.[/QUOTE]Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?

They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?

Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.

And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2991956]50% of new classic picks are duds?. I don't know, is it just me, or are those classic horror stories?[/QUOTE]What you're saying is strange. Yes, I've had bad experiences too. I think out of 10,5 are very good, 3 are so-so, and 2 are really bad. Along the way, there have to be some bad ones as well. If I were to compare it to the German clubs or Thailand, Classic would be better, if only because it doesn't hurt as much due to the money. But I always use condoms and don't demand anything extraordinary from the girls. What I would definitely do is complain to the mamasan. If you just accept it, you risk the girls learning to get away with it, a certain normality returning, and you getting the same woman next time.

[QUOTE=XorumFan;2991679]New Royal in Kota Indah is opening up 4/2 according to their telegram (which BTW is the best app I've found for just looking at talent in Jakarta at various places). It looks like other connected place are closed too: MTR, Mega, HR Vip but open 4/2. Other spots mention 4/3 on tele, it's probably not a total waste land but the weekend looks like it will be dead and Friday, Monday, Tuesday and probobly not back to normal until Saturday 4/5 or the following Monday. I'm in the same boat, had tried to plan ahead, but my time off got bumped forward 5 days. Luckily there are other places to go first like Bali or Singapore or Thailand for a few days, whatever.[/QUOTE]Ah cool I'll do some research on the telegram channels, if you have some hints let us know. P.S. If anyone is around beginning of April and want to bro up for drinks and talent scout let me know here or Dm. I'll be around fellas. Cheers!

Hi all.

I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!

Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.

I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.

I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.

Thanks in advance.

BATS & CJ'S.

I prefer CJ's, but have had good luck at both.

I was there quite a bit a year ago (Dec to March 2024).

I paid 1. 5 to 2 juta.

There have been no recent posts on either & I'm not sure why.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2992217]Hi all.


Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.

I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2992217]Hi all.

I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!

Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.

I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.

I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.

CJ probably is your best shot where you can find some FL who have a normal job during daytime. But I know some spa girls will go there to make some extra money. So you need to figure out yourself.

I went there few months ago. It was very good. 2 juta for LT. Laid back and good music.

And if you meet a girl who was fucked 10 x a day, it is not bad at all. It means she is very popular, either she has a 10 look or she gives the top-tier service.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992127]And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?[/QUOTE]You are allowed to talk to the girls after you pull them out of the fishbowl at Starmoon. In fact, the mamasan leaves you alone with the girl to do so. After that works the same way as Classic, Travel, etc. The girl will sit there and talk to you but be courteous to the girl and send her back in a couple of minutes if you don't plan on taking her.

Girls don't care about lady drinks like they do in Thailand. It's not a source of income for them. I never buy a lady drink in Jakarta unless it's for a girl I already know. You can tell in seconds if a Jakarta girl wants to go with you or not. It's not fake like Thailand where they all pretend to love you and want you to father their next child.

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2992249]If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.[/QUOTE]

There are 2 Royal in KI. Royal VIP is high end and not busy, at least as of Summer 2024. Royal is a normal bar and busy.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992127]Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?

They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?

Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.

And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?[/QUOTE]I don't buy them any drinks. I just talk to them and try to read their body language. I don't rattle off all my desires either. I just kind of go with the flow and try to feel the vibe. I usually will ask if they do pijit since I like massages too but I don't usually bring up condom talk until in the room.

This is for the newbies that are thinking about going to Jakarta. I'm going to give you the real impressions of the place from a guy that likes high quality living and high quality women. This is not from the perspective of a cheap charlie. When I go on a trip I expect to live like a king. I read the stories of some guys scraping up a few pennies to come here and live like a peasant, no thanks, that's not for me.

Airport.

First thing after getting off the plane, I bought the visa on arrival, I think it was equivalent to $30 USD. Passport check was easy, I went to the agent, she looked at my passport and said next time go through the machines and just scan and go. Ok cool will do.

All this talk about ATM's and low withdrawals. There are 3 ATM's before / after customs can't remember. The first machine is an HSBC and the other 2 are major Indonesian banks. The machines have a 3 mil IDR limit. Very easy to get all the cash you need from these machines. I did 4 transactions and took a total of $12 mil. No headache no hassle. Easy.

Customs, you have to scan one of the QR code signs hanging up everywhere, answer a few questions and then get your personal QR code to show the customs agent. Got a SIM card from the people waving signs at you after you exit. There are like 5 booths, I picked the one that had the most people buying. Talk, text, data was like $20 USD. I took Golden bird subsidiary of Blue Bird they have new, bigger, nice vehicles. The car was a new electric vehicle, I think it was like 380 k IDR or so.

1st Hotel. Movenpick.

This place was highly recommended on this forum as the nicest place to stay if you want to be close to the action. Check in was smooth, there is a lot to like about the place. The Good, everything is pretty much new! I ate at every restaurant multiple times (brought guests) great food. Fantastic gym, high end equipment. Decent pool. Very easy to bring as many female guests as you want. The reception is on the 2nd floor around the corner from the elevators. It's perfect. The only person who can see who you are bringing back is the bellhop. Nobody in your business or asking any questions.

The Bad, after about week I realized the location although close to action actually sucks and the rooms are just too small.

Classic:

This is only my opinion so for the gents who worship Classic, I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Honestly this place reminds me of an abandoned mall. The very dim lighting, random mongers walking around aimlessly, it's creepy as shit! Once you take a few escalators up to terminal 2 it doesn't really get any better. You check-in get your wrist band and you walk into this big room with sofa seating wrapping around the edges. You will be immediately approached by many mamasons. Like its so funny, you didn't even have a chance to look at any girls yet and mama is asking what girl do you like! You just have to not pay them any attention (I say, I need a drink, give me sometime to relax) and just go grab an open seat. When sitting there scoping out the room every time I went a lot of the girls had this awful dry terrible cough. I tried my best not to pick them even if they were cute.

It will be a constant battle with these mamasons, especially if it's early evening and things are a little slow. Usually it takes me a good 20 minutes or so to find a girl I like. I then flag a mama and if it's not a girl from her stable she will huff and puff but will eventually signal the girl you want down with a green laser.

I then hand the mama of the girl 400 k IDR she goes and fills out some paperwork and brings back change. I usually let mama keep the change and that makes her very happy. The lighting is purposefully very dark you really never know what you are picking until you are in that shitty roach infested room and you turn on all the lights. Then it will be revealed, what you thought you were getting is not exactly what you got! I think another member mentioned this in his reports. There is always something that reveals itself in the light. Bad teeth, too many layers of makeup, bad skin, face not as cute, etc.

Once in the room while you are getting acquainted with your lady you will be met with all sorts of interesting things, from bad breath, fishy vagina odor, dirty feet, a little bit of body odor. Yes even though they just took a shower in front of you. Very strange. I guess this is to be expected at this price point. It's basically free sex. Every Tom, Dick and Harry coming here from across the world BB'ing and dumping loads in these girls. I'm still scratching my head about the pricing. Every encounter is pretty much free. It's just a matter of can you find anything worth taking back to the room.

I tipped all girls that provided great service 500 k, girls who really worked hard but couldn't bring me to climax (because I just wasn't attracted to them when the lights came on) 300 k. And I even tipped the smelly girls $200 k, even though I cut those sessions short.

I can already hear the screams. Why are you destroying the market. Haha. I tip all the ladies because they have terrible lives and a terrible job and if some cash can bring a little joy into their lives than so be it. Please be nice to them. From my experience, they all were very sweet and really tried hard to give a good experience. More to come on just how popular I became here!

That brings me to my next point. I always felt dirty leaving the place. Like I needed one of those radiation containment showers. Popular girls are getting picked 5 to 10 times a day. A popular girl, even if she has only been there a month has an unbelievable amount of mileage on her already. To me it's a bit disgusting. So after my 4th or 5th visit (I was done with the place). On to greener pastures.

Next report will be a detailed review of all the girls I can remember, especially the ones who spent their days off with me! Plus adventures at the higher end venues as well as meeting a few girls from seeking! I met a lot of incredible girls from all over the place, they really made the trip great!

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2992217]Hi all.

I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!

Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.

I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.

I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

then you are gonna have to go the FL/SA route
or go to malio and pick up a dancer, which is waaaayyy overpriced
i believe its close to 4M for a short time
but will likely not have many if any customers

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992236]BATS & CJ'S.

I prefer CJ's, but have had good luck at both.

I was there quite a bit a year ago (Dec to March 2024).

I paid 1. 5 to 2 juta.

There have been no recent posts on either & I'm not sure why.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Yes, have read about CJs and BATs but only people mentioning the name but not actual experience ie quality and quantity of ladies and cost. Your feedback was very helpful on price, can you give any further details on the quality and quantity? Are they more likely to speak some English as compared to Classic etc?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2992249]If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.

CJ probably is your best shot where you can find some FL who have a normal job during daytime. But I know some spa girls will go there to make some extra money. So you need to figure out yourself.

I went there few months ago. It was very good. 2 juta for LT. Laid back and good music.

And if you meet a girl who was fucked 10 x a day, it is not bad at all. It means she is very popular, either she has a 10 look or she gives the top-tier service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.

I hear you about the girl who fucks 10 times a day, I might agree if BB wasn't so common out there. But because I have a thing for DFK and DATY I'd rather do that on a girl who has one or two clients a day a few times a week vs ten clients six times a week.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2967592]Damn it, it's taken years to get outsiders to only venture to Classic, Travel and Emporium and not even consider going elsewhere. Heck, we even had to wait years till Lokasari and surrounds had all the fun places die off leaving just the 'street scene'. And just about everyone has forgotten about Stadium. Ok well not everyone, but you get the point.

Keep this up and they might venture away from Mangga Besar and Pasa Baru areas.[/QUOTE]Pasar baru? Google mapped it. Its east of monas (the statue) Is there anything special about pasar baru district? I seem to be missing something here. Sorry goin back a bit here in this thread.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2990700]I'm 21 pages into this and feel like I have a good image of 1001, malio, travel, classic, emporium. But is that it? Is that the only game in town? At 100 $ us dollars.

No one on motorbike down jalan tubagus angke onto daan mogot and checking things out reporting back. No one venturing into tanjung Priok or Cilincing. What about the streetwalker zone.

In front of the Cipinang prison?

There is one of three things goin on here:

1. members know, but are keeping their own little secrets.

2. these places, that are off the beaten path, are dangerous in the form of muggings / robberies?

3. there just isn't anything goin on elsewhere?

I don't really know the answer. The lack of breadth or lack of information has me thinking if I read another 20 pages will it be more of the same?

Anyone on here wants volunteer which / where the railroad tracks are that are mentioned? You mean the tracks near jatinegara?[/QUOTE]I agree. Unfortunately most people seem to be frequenting the same 3-4 locations.

I browsed a bit through the last 20 posts. Am I right under the assumption that 300-400 k plus tip is the norm for a short time without condom in these venues?

Whats the overnight prices including 2-3 pops?

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2992402]
I can already hear the screams. Why are you destroying the market. Haha. I tip all the ladies because they have terrible lives and a terrible job and if some cash can bring a little joy into their lives than so be it. Please be nice to them. From my experience, they all were very sweet and really tried hard to give a good experience. More to come on just how popular I became here!
[/QUOTE]Don't take this as personal criticism. Tipping is a bit of a hot topic. At the end of the day I'm all for a person doing what they want with hard earned money. Just some thoughts.

I always find these excuses for tipping rather strange. If you really felt bad for them and their shitty situation, why wouldn't you just tip them without having sex with them. LOL. Then you wouldn't be "destroying the market". I mean if you really cared about these people and their shitty situation, you might donate to a charity that helps women in poverty. Or perhaps an indonesian poor prostitutes charity? Right? I think most people don't really care about people's shitty situation unless it makes them feel bad. So really, you're tipping to prevent yourself from feeling bad.

I'm the same way, but I don't try to paint it as trying to help people. In the USA I tip because I feel guilty. That's the truth. And I feel socially compelled to do it. If I were more of an asshole with a spine I would not tip. Its stupid. But I would also gladly accept higher prices in all restaurants and places where people normally expect tips, so employers can pay their damn employees.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2992444]Thank you. Yes, have read about CJs and BATs but only people mentioning the name but not actual experience ie quality and quantity of ladies and cost. Your feedback was very helpful on price, can you give any further details on the quality and quantity? Are they more likely to speak some English as compared to Classic etc?
[/QUOTE]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2992484] So really, you're tipping to prevent yourself from feeling bad.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Nothing more.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]That's super helpful, thank you!

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.

But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. Will be staying far away from that collection of aunties.

Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2992402]This is for the newbies that are thinking about going to Jakarta. I'm going to give you the real impressions of the place from a guy that likes high quality living and high quality women. This is not from the perspective of a cheap charlie. When I go on a trip I expect to live like a king. I read the stories of some guys scraping up a few pennies to come here and live like a peasant, no thanks, that's not for me.

Airport.

First thing after getting off the plane, I bought the visa on arrival, I think it was equivalent to $30 USD. Passport check was easy, I went to the agent, she looked at my passport and said next time go through the machines and just scan and go. Ok cool will do.

All this talk about ATM's and low withdrawals. There are 3 ATM's before / after customs can't remember. The first machine is an HSBC and the other 2 are major Indonesian banks. The machines have a 3 mil IDR limit. Very easy to get all the cash you need from these machines. I did 4 transactions and took a total of $12 mil. No headache no hassle. Easy..[/QUOTE]Well this post is a little short on details. I need elaboration please. So you buy the visa on arrival ok. That's good for 30 days? How do you get the additional 30 days. I do not want to visit immigration office for additional 30 days. I want to pay an agent to get me my additional 30 days. What is a Jakarta agency that does this that won't rip you off?

And what about the onward flight? I do things spontaneously; I have never planned ahead in my life. With two weeks left on visa I will purchase flight into batam and cross into Singapore.

Does immigration Jakarta question you about your onward flight plans? thanks a helluva lot.

Pool tables at terminal 2 huh? Sounds like an area, the pool tables, that might have decent lighting to get a look at your girl before you choose her. Dim lighting in this joint seems like a master plan.

How many of the girls would be chooseable with normal lighting?

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Wow I can't even imagine someone can go with this kind of looking womens for free. To pay them 2 millions need to be out of your mind!!

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2992599]Thanks for the warning. Will be staying far away from that collection of aunties.[/QUOTE]LOL it must be some proper girls there for that price LMAO!

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992641]Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?[/QUOTE]Take the Doxy in the morning after breakfast and then drinking in the evening is fine. I did take one of those gut bacteria capsules every day anyway just to make myself feel better.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]I think 2-3 million would be fair for these women. To pay ME to bed them: the.

What are some venues that offer genuinely hot and young girls?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992649]Pool tables at terminal 2 huh? Sounds like an area, the pool tables, that might have decent lighting to get a look at your girl before you choose her. Dim lighting in this joint seems like a master plan.[/QUOTE]Pool table area also has dim lighting.

The good lighting area will be the along the walls with the couches with all the girls. If you want to see the girls, it is better to walk around the venue, and look at the girls sitting on the couches, rather then waiting for the mammasan to bring over several girls.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992649]How many of the girls would be chooseable with normal lighting?[/QUOTE]It would depend on your standards.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992127]Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?

They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?

Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.[/QUOTE]You don't need to buy them a drink to talk to them. I believe it's up the girls how long they want to sit with you.

Why not just go with your gut instincts and pay 365 K to interview a naked girl in the room. It's only about $22 US. Cheaper than a lap dance. If you are on a budget (nothing wrong with that), then you can interview the girls beforehand without buying a drink. Although I've never seen a monger interview 5 or 10 girls before choosing one. Try it. Wondering if you will develop a "reputation".

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992641]Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?[/QUOTE]Generally, mixing alcohol and antibiotics would reduce the effectiveness of the antibiotic drug. Example: it might take 2 weeks to cure your STD instead of the normal 1 week.

Of course, you should consult your doctor / pharmacist about the health affects of mixing alcohol and Doxy-Pep. Or least read the written literature (it said that it can "potentially" lead to side effects).

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2992572]No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.

But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Not just children but GRANDCHILDREN in some of them's cases. Jaysus.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2992829] Although I've never seen a monger interview 5 or 10 girls before choosing one. Try it. Wondering if you will develop a "reputation".[/QUOTE]Sadly I have. In fact, I walked into Classic with him. Old American guy in his 70's who was my friend's friend. Mamasans kept bringing girls to him and he would feel them up as long as he could until the girls got fed up. No drinks. No intentions to take a girl. He said he was saving himself for BATS / CJ's later around midnight. It was 6 pm! I told him not to waste girls' time but he didn't listen. Disassociated myself with him and never went out with him again.

Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993331]Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?[/QUOTE]I read somewhere you had to pay the Indo gvt 50 k USD to marry an Indonesian girl.

The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992641]Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?[/QUOTE]No interaction with alcohol. Only interaction with alcohol for Metronidazol, Tinidazol, and some few other antibiotics.

[QUOTE=XXL;2993347]I read somewhere you had to pay the Indo gvt 50 k USD to marry an Indonesian girl.

The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.[/QUOTE]I've did a thorough online search and there is nothing about a such government fee on marriage, I've also came across a lot of western / indo marriage culture advice but nothing about dating / marrying a pro, FL advice. That's probably easier to find here I hope!

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993357]I've did a thorough online search and there is nothing about a such government fee on marriage, I've also came across a lot of western / indo marriage culture advice but nothing about dating / marrying a pro, FL advice. That's probably easier to find here I hope![/QUOTE]You may have to buy off the girl from the outfit she is "under contract" with. That may be where I got the 50 k USD story from. I mentioned to a Classic girl I'd like to invite her over to Thailand. She thanked me but she didn't sound like she believed this would ever be possible. Methinks if those girls could freely travel we'd see many of them in Bangkok and Pattaya (instead of girls from Africa 5000 miles away).

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993331]Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?[/QUOTE]There are two stages to this question.

1/ Can / should you take an Indo girl overseas? Assuming she has a passport and visa for the arrival country, then sure. It's actually easier that many other Asian countries that have anti people smuggling initiatives. She won't get stopped at the airport just because immigration feels like it.

2/. What if she is a hooker? Can you: sure. See above. A freelancer can just leave with you. However, a girl indentured to one of the big brothels or someone who is paying off debts will have to clear those debts before she can leave. Even if a girl doesn't have debts, she will likely tell you that she has, just to get more money out of you. Should you is a totally different matter. Most would argue against traveling with a hooker, especially back home. The downsides and risks can be huge. Lots of guys still do it and many do it with out consequence so you need to make your own mind up. I'd never do it. Why would anyone want to import a hooker INTO Thailand?

The above assumes that you are asking about a short term holiday then return. Forever is a totally different matter.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2993373]There are two stages to this question.

1/ Can / should you take an Indo girl overseas? Assuming she has a passport and visa for the arrival country, then sure. It's actually easier that many other Asian countries that have anti people smuggling initiatives. She won't get stopped at the airport just because immigration feels like it.

2/. What if she is a hooker? Can you: sure. See above. A freelancer can just leave with you. However, a girl indentured to one of the big brothels or someone who is paying off debts will have to clear those debts before she can leave. Even if a girl doesn't have debts, she will likely tell you that she has, just to get more money out of you. Should you is a totally different matter. Most would argue against traveling with a hooker, especially back home. The downsides and risks can be huge. Lots of guys still do it and many do it with out consequence so you need to make your own mind up. I'd never do it. Why would anyone want to import a hooker INTO Thailand?

The above assumes that you are asking about a short term holiday then return. Forever is a totally different matter.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.

I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.

I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993381]Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.

I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.

I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Why would you want to involve yourself in that situation?

You actually want to seriously date a prostitute?

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2993383]Why would you want to involve yourself in that situation?

You actually want to seriously date a prostitute?[/QUOTE]I got the feeling she's a normal girl who got caught by mafia and that really breaks my heart. If I would be able to help her I don't mind.

Wondering if someone here had such an experience.

Plantsmoke here. My sources say this very long jalan tubagus angke is an erotic camping trip filled with 8-hour blue tents. All the way to dan mogot. I. e. A streetwalker zone. There seem to be perils as well including ladyboys taking motodrivers keys and throwing them in the river.

Key here, on the fly, is determining the girl-holding sections along this stretch. Would be fun, like a train track hunt.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993331]Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?[/QUOTE]In local and cheap brothels, you have regularly young and sweet girls who work a few month, and then, get married with a local. When I used to go to Surabaya, I always met a sweet and young thing, and every time I come back next year, the girl quit and was married with a local customer, it's really common.

I am talking to low end brothels, for the high end brothels, girls also often quit next year, but for other reasons, not sure it's a good idea to GFE those girls, except you want to bring her in your country, an educated girl is a +.

For the question a "normal girl" or a pro, it's a vast debate. Of course, a civie is the best, but it take month to have a real GFE. In brothels you can found literally hundred and them the same day, and they are all completely different girls, so in one month here, you can found exactly what you are looking for.

Strike while the iron is hot, it get me time to understand they live only for today, not tomorrow, really not in one year, promises for tomorrow mean nothing. So if you find a good girl, don't wait and go make it happen, if you don't, another guy will show up to take your place.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993381]Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.

I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.

I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]One thing to remember is that Classic type girls are normally not paying off their own debt. Typically it's for the family. Either a medical disaster or dad's gambling or drugs. It's never something innocent like she just borrowed some money to buy a nice dress. When dad finds out that she has hooked a foreigner rich enough to fly her around the world, then the demands for more money are not going to stop. If anything they will get worse.

You have a lot of unknown and what ifs in your list. All of them have the potential to become a drama for you down the line. I'd recommend finding a more typical girl who doesn't have all the baggage and headwinds and just have a normal relationship with her.

With respect, it sounds like your only asking because you live in a western pussy prison and are desperate to find someone. Give it some more time and visits. You will see that there are literally thousands of girls to choose from and you can sort between those who are fun for one night only and those that you can take home to meet the family.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2993383]Why would you want to involve yourself in that situation?

You actually want to seriously date a prostitute?[/QUOTE]Hookers make great girlfriends. Of course, there are two conditions: 1/ go in with your eyes open and 2/ never try to save a hoe. I'd suggest Rocketeer need to work on both.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993384]I got the feeling she's a normal girl who got caught by mafia and that really breaks my heart. If I would be able to help her I don't mind.

Wondering if someone here had such an experience.[/QUOTE]Suuuuureeeee. Here's the real test.

Pay her debt with no strings attached.

Or are you only willing IF you get something in return?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2992572]No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.

But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I might have posted in the past teasing Gabacho for one thing or another, but usually his posts are straight up and reflect truthfully. This post is 100% on point. I'm in complete agreement.

[QUOTE=XXL;2993347]
The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.[/QUOTE]I know a normal (non-p4p) early 20's girl I met last time I was in Jakarta later traveled to Thailand with her group of friends for a week, so I doubt there are any such restrictions on passport or travel.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993384]I got the feeling she's a normal girl who got caught by mafia and that really breaks my heart. If I would be able to help her I don't mind.

Wondering if someone here had such an experience.[/QUOTE]Dating a foreign girl comes with all sorts of problems. Dating a foreign prostitute complicates things ever further. If you really feel bad for her, I don't blame you for it. We are all human after all. The things I've done for foreign women amaze even myself when I think about it. My advice to you is to pay her debt and walk away and never talk to her again. Or simply never talk to her again. It seems like you are getting emotionally attached and it opens you up to all sorts of bad things.

If you bring this girl to the UK, you're going to turn her into a UK girl. If thats what you're going to end up with, might as well just get a girl from the UK. Cheaper, less hassle. The great sex is going to dissapear any way you cut it.

It always amazes me when someone wants to make a WG as GF and asks for advice on ISG.

We all are here on ISG for exact opposite reason, I believe we all here on ISG to find more and more girls to bang as we are bored with one GF / spouse.

Nothing against finding a GF, but ISG is not the platform for that, maybe [URL]mach.com[/URL] is better.

I have met some WGs is Jakarta (in CJs, Bats and even Emporium) who are ready to go with me to Thailand, they just want the experience (flight, hotel, all the stuff they can put on IG).

Also, last year I met a girl on Seeking in Jakarta and we met again in Japan (she was by herself and I was there for fun), we did spend some time together.

I saw her WhatsApp status showing some Japanese places and asked her if she was in Japan and we met in Kyoto for couple of hours.

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993381]Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta ....[/QUOTE]

Can someone post the link to official website to get your Visa before you arrive. I've looked and can't seem find it thanks.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2993857]Can someone post the link to official website to get your Visa before you arrive. I've looked and can't seem find it thanks.[/QUOTE]Hey dude, This is ISG not Tripadvisor.

This intel can be found within 10 seconds on Google.

Come on!

[QUOTE=Pk099;2993540]It always amazes me when someone wants to make a WG as GF and asks for advice on ISG.
[/QUOTE]Where else are you going to find people who will not look down on you for paying to fuck women, and who may have experience in entertaining a relationship with them?

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2993857]Can someone post the link to official website to get your Visa before you arrive. I've looked and can't seem find it thanks.[/QUOTE]This is The Official eVisa website for Indonesia [URL]https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id[/URL] but it times out whenever I try to access it. Maybe it's only a temporary outage. I found other sites that posted the same link, so it must have worked at one time.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2993912]This is The Official eVisa website for Indonesia [URL]https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id[/URL] but it times out whenever I try to access it. Maybe it's only a temporary outage. I found other sites that posted the same link, so it must have worked at one time.[/QUOTE]If you go to the official embassy in Germany you will find the link under visa.

But!

Visa processing will be temporarily closed on 28th (Friday), March 2025 collective leave of Nyepi holy day (1947 saka new year) and on 2nd (Wednesday) to the 7th (Monday), April 2025 due to the public holiday and collective leave of Nyepi holy day (1947 saka new year) and Eid al-Fitr 1446 Hijriyyah.

However, visa exemption and visa on arrival services are still accessible. We will resume regular operation on 8th (Tuesday) April 2025.

Notes:

Visa applications received on 27th (Thursday) of March 2025, will start to be processed on 8th (Tuesday) April, 2025.

[URL]https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2993895]Where else are you going to find people who will not look down on you for paying to fuck women, and who may have experience in entertaining a relationship with them?[/QUOTE]That's exactly why I asked here, and thankful for the suggestion and also good to hear some positive criticism as it is indeed a tricky situation.

So far only one person came on DM about how he married a Brazilian pro and brought her home. Thing lasted few years then divorced but sex was still on point. I would sign for that 🤘.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2993540]It always amazes me when someone wants to make a WG as GF and asks for advice on ISG.

We all are here on ISG for exact opposite reason, I believe we all here on ISG to find more and more girls to bang as we are bored with one GF / spouse.

Nothing against finding a GF, but ISG is not the platform for that, maybe [URL]mach.com[/URL] is better.

I have met some WGs is Jakarta (in CJs, Bats and even Emporium) who are ready to go with me to Thailand, they just want the experience (flight, hotel, all the stuff they can put on IG).

Also, last year I met a girl on Seeking in Jakarta and we met again in Japan (she was by herself and I was there for fun), we did spend some time together.

I saw her WhatsApp status showing some Japanese places and asked her if she was in Japan and we met in Kyoto for couple of hours.[/QUOTE]We have all different motivation here.

Some of us try to date a no pro, but if the date going bad, we always have the option to finish the journey in Classic or Travel.

Having this option remove a lot of stress unlikely in our western country.

For dating normal girl no need advise (or maybe a little bit), but I need ISG to finish and improve my journey in the brothels.

Besides ISG can give some useful information about indo girls, pro or no pro.

[QUOTE=PuneRomper;2990067]I am visiting Ubud and Seminyak in May and would love to visit some spas where I can get action. Need to be discreet setups as I Am travelling with family and friends. Could someone recommend some places. Also would like to know typical rates for counter and for extras- would like B2 B, Blow job without condom and possibly FS.

Had posted on Bali forum, but realise it is not very active. Would appreciate some pointers.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]In Bali now. I did dream spa, pretty good, cute women that weren't perfect but but were hot. Very expensive by Jakarta standards 2 m for 2 hours, 2 therapists or 1 m 1 therapist for 75 m. I guess Spa 129 is also quite good according to my grab driver, they were closed for Eid though or w,e. Sway is good for non FS, I was going to go to Delta since I wanted a real massage with bonus but the location in Bali has terrible reviews, Sway seems the winner for this. The street massage shops should be avoided, even my grab driver told me they scam; too bad because there are some cute girls, I'd be quite happy to pay them and so would other dudes, but I guess they'd rather scam for pennies instead of pounds. FYI, all the girls at Dream are kinda freelance, so if you get a long they will give you their whatsapp, 600 k to 1 m for a few hours at your hotel.

To bring this thread back to Jakarta. Has anyone done Classic Spa? There aren't a lot of recently searchable reviews, prices etc. I kind of like the massage and chill before action thing, good lunch time activity. There are some other spots I've seen on tele but not much on Classic Spa.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;2994082]We have all different motivation here.

Some of us try to date a no pro, but if the date going bad, we always have the option to finish the journey in Classic or Travel.

Having this option remove a lot of stress unlikely in our western country.

For dating normal girl no need advise (or maybe a little bit), but I need ISG to finish and improve my journey in the brothels.

Besides ISG can give some useful information about indo girls, pro or no pro.[/QUOTE]The challenge of "girlfriending" a non-pro is what does it for me. And if it doesn't work out. As you said.

March 21 2025 report: Jakarta: After being closed for awhile, the Gunung Antang localization is now open again. The east Jakarta Satpol PP has again disciplined ther woman and men who are horny at the location, on Friday morning, March 21. During the raid, officers found commercial sex workers (CSW, s) hanging around in the Cipinang area, Jatinegara district, east Jakarta. Satpol PP continued operations in the Gunung Antang prostitution localization area, which is located under the Matraman Station railway tracks, Jatinegara.

Meanwhile the area where the raids weere carrierd out were along Jalan DI Panjaitan, under the Matraman Station Railway tracks, the Gunung Antang prostitution localization (which historically I believe was along the tracks between Matraman and Jatinegara stations) , Kampung Melayu to 1 Gusti Ngurah Rai.

The location where the PSK "hang out" in East Jakarta that is no less busy is the road towards Jatinegara passing jl Pemuda, jl pramuka, jl matraman Raya to Gunung Antang. In this place psk carry out "lust transactions" along the railroad tracks.

BOKER.

My information sais there is some lady activity / action on jalan Raya Bogor, Ciracas District. Once the Sports Center was built there the womasn tgook to the streets around the area. Would be an interesting stroll thru this area at the very least.

Plantsmoke here.

NOTE, from my previous post regarding Gunung Antang, did a little research:

-Jalan DI Panjaitan is a rather long street that runs along the toll road. Without further information like a cross street I. E. Location, this is pretty worthless.

- Kampung Melayu is an area, a village that shows up on google maps as jagged line encirclement of an area near jatinegara.

- 1 Gusti Ngurah Rai is a jalan that reaches klender and is a street that runs along the railroad tracks.

Personally what I get out of these reports is that the train tracks possibly starting from Mangarrai station thru Matraman thru Jatinegara all the way to Klender are tracks.

To hunt around. We already know from my reports that under the Matraman station and near the Cipinang prison are hot areas, areas that hold girls.

So there, there is my contribuition of non Classic banter! Ok now back to the Classic banter.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2963300]Believe it or not, there are many men who only do CBJ for safety. BBBJ is reasonably risky and many married men will avoid for that reason. Again, everyone is not looking for the same thing. If you want the hottest possible girl with the least amount of effort and are looking for CBJ then why not 1001? Also one report is not sufficient to judge the entire operation. Many people have sub par experiences at Classic and other posters have had good experiences at 1001, including BBBJ. I have not been to 1001 but I do go to Emporium and clearly am more than happy to pay 1.6 M for what they provide there over 500 K at Classic. I'm not being a snob. I also went to totally local holes for 300 K as well. Each serves its purpose and offers a different product and experience. The only thing we should be alerting people to is outright scams, which clearly 1001 is not.[/QUOTE]1.9 million rupiah at 1001, for a CBJ? How did this happen? How do you make sure it doesn't happen to you? Did this dude not have any conversation with the girl? What is the protocol at 1001? Do you pick her and pay at the counter not having any idea what is to happen?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2994276]Plantsmoke here.

NOTE, from my previous post regarding Gunung Antang, did a little research:

-Jalan DI Panjaitan is a rather long street that runs along the toll road. Without further information like a cross street I. E. Location, this is pretty worthless.

- Kampung Melayu is an area, a village that shows up on google maps as jagged line encirclement of an area near jatinegara.

- 1 Gusti Ngurah Rai is a jalan that reaches klender and is a street that runs along the railroad tracks.

Personally what I get out of these reports is that the train tracks possibly starting from Mangarrai station thru Matraman thru Jatinegara all the way to Klender are tracks.

To hunt around. We already know from my reports that under the Matraman station and near the Cipinang prison are hot areas, areas that hold girls.

So there, there is my contribuition of non Classic banter! Ok now back to the Classic banter.[/QUOTE]When are you going to Jakarta?

Emporium:

Ok so after I retired from Classic, I moved on to Emporium. My oh my was this an eye opening experience! Let's start from the beginning, when you enter you are brought down to the registration desk. I knew from recommendations from this forum to ask if David was working. Lucky for me he was working that day, David is like your very own pussy concierge. He helped check me in, you get a wrist band and reception locks your phone in a plastic case. David explained all the pricing, rules and how everything works then escorted me to the lounge.

I visited Emporium the most durning my trip, about 12 times in total. I can't emphasize enough how different this place is from classic. There are no pushy mama-sans, the lighting is a lot better, the set up with couches for clients are close enough to where the ladies are sitting to make for an easier selection process. You sit on the couch with your pussy concierge which in my case was David and he walks through his talent recommendations while you relax and drink a beer. No pressure, just a relaxed, clean, comfortable environment. There are 2 categories differentiated by what couch the lady is sitting on, the first couch to the right was 1. 4 mil, and the middle couch and the one on the left was 1. 9 mil. My first encounter was from the 1. 9 mil couch. I knew the second I saw her I had to have her. Abbreviated version of her name is Ria, she had the face and body I love. David made the arrangements and the next thing I know we are walking hand and hand down to the Spa. You use your wrist band number to correspond with your assigned locker, which opens electronically. You get changed into spa shorts that are provided by Emporium and head to the hot tub sauna area.

You can choose how you want to spend time with your lady. Hot tub, cold plunge pool, super hot plunge pool, wet sauna, dry sauna, relaxation futon mat area that is curtained off. You have a lot of options and variety. I used everything they had to offer at one point or another. So on this first encounter when Ria walked out of the women's dressing room in her bikini, I couldn't believe my eyes, she looked even hotter than in the lounge. I was like a kid in a candy store, so happy, was hard to contain my excitement as the little head was starting to stand at attention! She grabbed my hand and we walked to the hot tub where we parked ourselves in the corner and started making out like high school sweet hearts. She was slow grinding on my lap with legs wrapped around me, the whole experience was fantastic! As I sat there in the hot tub I thought to myself, flying half way around the world is finally starting to pay off!

We finished up in the spa, got our robes and towels and made our way back to the room. When you pick a 1. 9 mil girl the package comes with a VIP room. Which has jacuzzi tub, nice big bed with ceiling mirror and all the comforts one should expect at this price point. Ria and I started in the shower, continuing our make out session. She washed me, I washed her. She then went down on me to provide a wonderful BBBJ, looking up at me with those beautiful eyes I will not forget. We made our way to the bed and the GFE experience was in full swing. I felt like I knew her for years, we just clicked. I licked every inch of her perfect body, she then reciprocated. After we started in missionary, then went to doggie and for the finale she got on top and slowly rocked those hips back and fourth, maintaining eye contact before coming in close for more passionate kissing. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but when I looked up at the ceiling mirror and saw her perfect ass grinding away on top of me, it was just too much to hold back, and seconds later I erupted. To say I was impressed with Ria and her service would be an understatement, this was excellent! One of the best I have had in years. We took another shower and cuddled for the remainder of the time we had left. I told her I would be back tomorrow and the next day to see her. She was happy to hear that, she was even happier when I tipped her 600 k. Ria walked me back to the mens locker room and kissed me good bye. I saw David when I was leaving, he gave me his card and told me to contact him anytime.

The next day I sent David a text that I was coming back and I wanted to see Ria again. He arranged everything, I arrived 5 minutes early for my appointment, David had reception check me in and then he brought me to the lounge where Ria was already waiting for me. We picked up where we left off yesterday but this time we did the dry sauna and futon relaxation area before heading to the bedroom. Ria was just as hot and did not disappoint on this go around, just fantastic service all around. After we finished up and started cuddling she asked how long I would be staying in Jakarta. I let her know I would be there for a few more weeks. She said her day off was Sunday. I took that as a hint she wanted to hang out. I told her to come visit me on Sunday and we can go for lunch and a swim. She seemed excited by that prospect so we exchanged contact info and planned a meet up for Sunday.

Classic:

Basement or whatever, went in because despite reading a lot of reports I somehow just kind got confused. Loud AF, some tourists from Asia ordered a beer, got a large one (wanted a small). Someone came over to ask if I wanted to see talent, told her I was leaving, just too loud and pretty empty. A few cute girls but literally none of them even looked at me and they seemed disinterested. About 140 for beer and entry.

Went to Spa. I was late though, got there at 19:45, I think it might be winding down. I chose the most expensive package like a dumbass. I wanted the 90, but IDK why I got the scrub, dumb unless you really want a scrub. This adds about 140 FYI. Got the 90 and scrub then naked HJ for 300 (LOL), it was nice and she had a killer body so whatever. I think I could have haggled but I was kind of confused on the process. So total damage about 800 k for a nice massage and HJ. Also I didn't get to pick my therapist, is this normal or just going late?

I've tried to search for a good run down of Classic Spa, but can't really find anything, too many T2 reports, which If I just walk in and go up I'll give a go tonight, so that's easy. I've seen other Spa's like Paradise spa by Sunter and this list from Zippos [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2950777&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2950777 so may give some a go.

Can anyone with experience at Classic Spa give a good rundown. I like spa's a bit over clubs. Classic may not be a good choice for that.

What is the best process here, Can you actually choose your girl, What is the right tip, What is the best time to go? Is the 90 minute massage all the time or can you get a girl, or the girl that did the massage to go for more after? My whole session was almost 2 hours and I did the sauna etc. For 20 minutes and had a drink. So all in 800 k for about 2. 5 hours was not a terrible waste, but I'd like to do it the right way. Thanks for replies.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2946687]First of all Banana Boi hasn't been running his mouth; just you and Expat Moron have been talking shit, and quite frankly you have no credibility so you should just STFU. Nobody asked you for your idiotic opinions. And you have been known to post false reports in the Medellin forums in the past to try to trick people so they wouldn't come. That's why your credibility is zero.

I never said I was basing my whole entire trip on lokasari I simply said I wanted to check it out yet you idiots feel the need to jump on me and talk your shit.

Also Zippos, GG, and FutureGuy have posted more valuable information to this forum than you LIH69 and your buddy Expat Nazi.[/QUOTE]Plantsmoke here. This forum is pain in the ass to read. Classic, I get it already. Anything after this is just a poem. I had a head injury, so reading these posts hurts my brain after a half dozen pages.

There has to ber a better way? To select the heavy hitters on here and read only their posts. Couple that with '"reports of distinction".

So I need member usernames of heavy hitters here (a heavy hitter is one with extreme knowledge of Jakarta; that has posted new venues and vagabond journeys that tourists would not think of; bekasi, Bogor, depok extra points) So from above we have:

1. Zippos.

2. GG.

3. Future Guy.

4. Loveithere69.

Anyone here want to contribute suggestions for members whose posts are consistently informative, and intel you have never heard before? Most importantly write facts, not poems.

[QUOTE=Medellin65;2947035]Terima kasih telah menghubungi SR MASSAGE TRADISIONAL. Silakan beri tahu apa yang dapat kami bantu.

PRICE LIST & SOP.

PAKET 1 JAM 250 K (HOT).

MASSAGE FULL BODY.

PM + HJ.

PAKET 1 JAM 300 (BRONZE).

MASSAGE FULL BODY..[/QUOTE]Anyone want to help me out, break this down. What is the name of the massage joint / joints and what is the address.

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[QUOTE=Gabacho;2961184]Usually I spend most my time doing remote work on my laptop and also venturing around trying new places to eat lunch.

Besides mongering I'm a real big foodie, too. I think of myself kind of like an unpublished Anthony Bourdain. I'm always trying food from places most westerners wouldn't even dare to try.

Here's a hole in the wall chicken place I found near the lokasari area.

This plate with 2 grilled chicken thighs, rice and a delicious saus cabe along with an iced tea (the manis) only costs 23 k IDR.

Gabacho.

P.S: The food here is even better than in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Hi gabacho,

Can you share the location of this chicken place please. I'm sure it was simply an oversight by you; as I know you like to help people. I'll be in lokisari shortly. "Holes in the wall" establishments are usually harder to find.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2994652]Plantsmoke here. This forum is pain in the ass to read. Classic, I get it already. Anything after this is just a poem. I had a head injury, so reading these posts hurts my brain after a half dozen pages.

There has to ber a better way? To select the heavy hitters on here and read only their posts. Couple that with '"reports of distinction".

So I need member usernames of heavy hitters here (a heavy hitter is one with extreme knowledge of Jakarta; that has posted new venues and vagabond journeys that tourists would not think of; bekasi, Bogor, depok extra points) So from above we have:

1. Zippos.

2. GG.

3. Future Guy.

4. Loveithere69.

Anyone here want to contribute suggestions for members whose posts are consistently informative, and intel you have never heard before? Most importantly write facts, not poems.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Finally found some write ups on the spa. I'd read them almost a year ago LOL, when I was contemplating the trip. T2 was awesome for me at least last night. I've literally probably never seen a better more classic body when you google women and 'perfect' proportions, hour glass, the cups, round ass, no fat fat etc. , plus she want to come to my hotel next week on her holiday. Was actually planning to be a dirty mid life pervert and pick the tiniest 18 ist since I hadn't done that in awhile, but when an attractive girl gives you a genuine smile when you walk in that's a winner and it was.

So thanks and I'll give the spa a try again in a bit, then hit t2 again and will not write anything more on classic, because you're right, this isn't a dear diary.

I like Redtop BTW, but the laundry service is RIDICOULOUS, like a trip to classic for not that much stuff. It's also annoying to walk but stupid to grab a car / bike. It's 100% not chill if you want to have a girl, SO many people in the lobby to say Hi and judge you LOL. I'm moving next week, glad I just booked a few days. Better to come down from Holiday Inn, Grand Mercure or Mercure (which I'm thinking about only for the in house massage brothel, but HI has Sugar Spa right by anyway) and those seem far more chill for bringing back. The grab driver will perhaps judge you for Classic, but mostly just laugh and wish he was going.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2994691]Anyone want to help me out, break this down. What is the name of the massage joint / joints and what is the address.[/QUOTE]If you google 'sr massage traditional Jakarta' it shows up with their insta page srmassagefullbody which hasn't been updated since late 24 and nothing looks that special. South side of central Jakarta heading to the east.

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2994451]Emporium:

Ok so after I retired from Classic, I moved on to Emporium. My oh my was this an eye opening experience! Let's start from the beginning, when you enter you are brought down to the registration desk. I knew from recommendations from this forum to ask if David was working. Lucky for me he was working that day, David is like your very own pussy concierge. He helped check me in, you get a wrist band and reception locks your phone in a plastic case. David explained all the pricing, rules and how everything works then escorted me to the lounge.

I visited Emporium the most durning my trip, about 12 times in total. I can't emphasize enough how different this place is from classic. There are no pushy mama-sans, the lighting is a lot better, the set up with couches for clients are close enough to where the ladies are sitting to make for an easier selection process. You sit on the couch with your pussy concierge which in my case was David and he walks through his talent recommendations while you relax and drink a beer. No pressure, just a relaxed, clean, comfortable environment. There are 2 categories differentiated by what couch the lady is sitting on, the first couch to the right was 1. 4 mil, and the middle couch and the one on the left was 1. 9 mil. My first encounter was from the 1. 9 mil couch. I knew the second I saw her I had to have her. Abbreviated version of her name is Ria, she had the face and body I love. David made the arrangements and the next thing I know we are walking hand and hand down to the Spa. You use your wrist band number to correspond with your assigned locker, which opens electronically. You get changed into spa shorts that are provided by Emporium and head to the hot tub sauna area.

You can choose how you want to spend time with your lady. Hot tub, cold plunge pool, super hot plunge pool, wet sauna, dry sauna, relaxation futon mat area that is curtained off. You have a lot of options and variety. I used everything they had to offer at one point or another. So on this first encounter when Ria walked out of the women's dressing room in her bikini, I couldn't believe my eyes, she looked even hotter than in the lounge. I was like a kid in a candy store, so happy, was hard to contain my excitement as the little head was starting to stand at attention! She grabbed my hand and we walked to the hot tub where we parked ourselves in the corner and started making out like high school sweet hearts. She was slow grinding on my lap with legs wrapped around me, the whole experience was fantastic! As I sat there in the hot tub I thought to myself, flying half way around the world is finally starting to pay off!

We finished up in the spa, got our robes and towels and made our way back to the room. When you pick a 1. 9 mil girl the package comes with a VIP room. Which has jacuzzi tub, nice big bed with ceiling mirror and all the comforts one should expect at this price point. Ria and I started in the shower, continuing our make out session. She washed me, I washed her. She then went down on me to provide a wonderful BBBJ, looking up at me with those beautiful eyes I will not forget. We made our way to the bed and the GFE experience was in full swing. I felt like I knew her for years, we just clicked. I licked every inch of her perfect body, she then reciprocated. After we started in missionary, then went to doggie and for the finale she got on top and slowly rocked those hips back and fourth, maintaining eye contact before coming in close for more passionate kissing. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but when I looked up at the ceiling mirror and saw her perfect ass grinding away on top of me, it was just too much to hold back, and seconds later I erupted. To say I was impressed with Ria and her service would be an understatement, this was excellent! One of the best I have had in years. We took another shower and cuddled for the remainder of the time we had left. I told her I would be back tomorrow and the next day to see her. She was happy to hear that, she was even happier when I tipped her 600 k. Ria walked me back to the mens locker room and kissed me good bye. I saw David when I was leaving, he gave me his card and told me to contact him anytime.

The next day I sent David a text that I was coming back and I wanted to see Ria again. He arranged everything, I arrived 5 minutes early for my appointment, David had reception check me in and then he brought me to the lounge where Ria was already waiting for me. We picked up where we left off yesterday but this time we did the dry sauna and futon relaxation area before heading to the bedroom. Ria was just as hot and did not disappoint on this go around, just fantastic service all around. After we finished up and started cuddling she asked how long I would be staying in Jakarta. I let her know I would be there for a few more weeks. She said her day off was Sunday. I took that as a hint she wanted to hang out. I told her to come visit me on Sunday and we can go for lunch and a swim. She seemed excited by that prospect so we exchanged contact info and planned a meet up for Sunday.[/QUOTE]I've been to the Emporium a lot and I'm going back next week, but did I understand correctly that you paid 2. 5 million for this visit? I've usually never paid more than 1. 6 million there. What happened there? I mean, when the girls move out, they usually don't look much different than they did in the Travel or Classic!

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2994877]Hi gabacho,

Can you share the location of this chicken place please. I'm sure it was simply an oversight by you; as I know you like to help people. I'll be in lokisari shortly. "Holes in the wall" establishments are usually harder to find.[/QUOTE]It was directly across from the A&W when you exit lokasari plaza onto that side street there. I'm talking about that smaller street that has a lot of moto traffic, it will be literally right in front of you as you're walking out of the plaza. That was probably one of the cheapest places I ever ate lunch at in Jakarta.

-Gabacho.

The little tokyo is the nickname for two blocks of streets, namely jalan Melawai 6,7,9 located in block m square mall complex, Kebayoran Baru, South Jakarta. The later it gets, the more crowded.

Little tokyo gets. On normal days there are often rows of woman dressed sexily on the side of the road. (The authorities usually turn a blind eye to people with money).

I know ill be checkin out the area. Couldn't be much more expensive then Malio.

I have to Lowe massages in block M.

Price was 390.000 for massage + HJ + CIM.

Have to pick lady from picture.

Cute face and titties. Rest body was ok and she made me think she liked what she was doing.

Sort of a massage first. Said 90 minutes. But massage done in 40 minutes. I was outside in less than an hour.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2995087]The little tokyo is the nickname for two blocks of streets, namely jalan Melawai 6,7,9 located in block m square mall complex, Kebayoran Baru, South Jakarta. The later it gets, the more crowded.

Little tokyo gets. On normal days there are often rows of woman dressed sexily on the side of the road. (The authorities usually turn a blind eye to people with money).

I know ill be checkin out the area. Couldn't be much more expensive then Malio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XorumFan;2994885]

I like Redtop BTW, but the laundry service is RIDICOULOUS, like a trip to classic for not that much stuff...[/QUOTE]I couldn't find any genuine laundry shop in that area. The few mentioned on Google maps turned out not to exist or to be hopelessly uninviting. I guess cheap laundry can be problematic in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=XXL;2995240]I couldn't find any genuine laundry shop in that area. The few mentioned on Google maps turned out not to exist or to be hopelessly uninviting. I guess cheap laundry can be problematic in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Another benefit to staying in the pasar baru area is that I had access to a laundry shop right up the street. They washed all my clothes for 40 k. I would drop them off once a week in the mornings and then pick them up in the afternoons.

-Gabacho.

Jakarta: 3-29-2018 prostitution practices are said to not only exist in entertainment venues or hotels. Prostitution also exists in public and open places.

Head of social rehabilitation Section of the West Jakarta Social Service Sutaawijaya mapped out three locations that are the "bases" of commercikal sex workers (CSW).

In the west Jakarta area.

There is in Pesing, Kota tua which is on the corner of the rail before entering Kota Tua, and on Jalan Gajah Mada.

To be continued.

Continued. Sutawijaya said the base area for PSK in Pesing is precisely on jalan Panjeran Tubagus Angke, right on the edge of the river. There, female PSKs stand late at night. Those that come in and out (of Pesing), (the execution takes place at the place) that uses a blue tent, said Sutawijaya. Although often raided, the location is still a hangout for PSK.

So regarding kota rail tracks the two next stations that both take right hand bends 90 degrees are:

1. Kampung Bandan Station.

2. Jayakarta Station.

There is the remote chance, he was actually talking about rawa-bebek, "around the bend", back in 2018?

Thought for a minute about humping the train tracks, then came to my senses. All train track locations either on top or underneath have entry points.

So what you do is go to Kota, Kampung Bandan, or Jayakarta and grab a freelance motodriver in front of station at nightfall and in bahasa say "train track girls".

Note* Although not unimportant, 2018 reports are still legit because, hookers always return.

Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card?. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them!

Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.

And if I book lion air thru agoda, they'll rip me off with additional baggage fees.

Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2995779]Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card?. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them!

Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.

And if I book lion air thru agoda, they'll rip me off with additional baggage fees.

Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.[/QUOTE]I haven't had any problems with Lion Air or any other airline so far. Could it be something to do with your card system settings?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2995779]Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card?. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them!

Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.

And if I book lion air thru agoda, they'll rip me off with additional baggage fees.

Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.[/QUOTE]I have booked flights from small airlines through [URL]Trip.com[/URL]. Zero hassle once you're a [URL]Trip.com[/URL] customer.

Reddit said this has been a problem. I. e. Indonesian airlines accepting foreign credit cards. In my case [URL]traveloka.com[/URL] happened to ber the cure. Thanks for your responses.

God sometimes tests you out, "How bad do you wanta go to Jakarta". So far jumping his hurdles.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2995779]. On a Lion Air or SuperJet reservation from Jakarta to batam on as visa run?[/QUOTE]If I've understood the above correctly. Why are you doing a visa run from Jakarta to Batam? You haven't left Indonesia.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2995779]Why am I having problems with credit cards: navy federal and scwabbs' special traveler investor card? They continue to decline card saying "contact merchant bank" Fuck them its not a problem with my bank, its them! Is it because it is a ATM credit card? What kind of mickey mouse operation doesn't accept credit cards.[/QUOTE]Haven't had a problem with cards being rejected on Indonesian sites since the early 2010's, when they didn't accept anything except Indonesian cards. I don't know if the debit card (I presume that's what you mean by ATM card) causes issues, I know one I have hasn't. Maybe the bank has detected you using the card outside of your home country and rejected use as potentially fraudulent? I don't know where you are, maybe that is a possibility.

You all don't know how lucky you are these days to do nearly everything online from outside Indonesia. The joys of not needing to talk to any immigration 'official' last time because my eVOA allowed me to use the passport gates like a modern country.

Also if you have done an eVOA, that can be extended online for another 30 days with a fee. I haven't tried it, been flat out enough dealing with the pecularities of the Immigration website just to get an eVOA. But the site seems settled now I. E. It actually worked the last time.

Typing this brought back memories (horrors?) of dealing with Indonesia a little over 10 years ago. Needing an Indonesian to buy tickets online for me, and deliver it physically once I had arrived so I could travel back home on Lion. Actually travelling on Lion. Travelling on Adam Air one month before they slammed a plane into the ocean, because you can still fly a plane with one half of a cockpit working (till it doesn't). Not being able to use a card anywhere. Neverending runs to ATMs for more cash. 'Discussions' with immigration and polisi road blocks.

Then again, the stuff going on then that you could get away with (and certainly not now) made up for it. Ah, memories.

I went to Missouri. Services is not so good the girl that help me only did a very bad massage and did take her top of. Bad BJ. I feel teeth and no CIM. I paid 460 k. Maybe just bad luck with girl. I picked girl from tablet. She is much more pretty on picture, but body good.

Girl at Lowe was much better.

P.S.: both places also serve FS.

Any bar here with girls can you buy single drinks? Not have the whole bottle. Thanks.

I have tinder gold. I have been sending likes to 300 ladies. I don't have any matches. Is this odd? What the fuck is wrong?. I don't like you, I super like you. What the fuck does that mean? And well boost your like? What vague services they offer. How do you even trust these fuckers?

And if they have to boost your like what does that say about the first like you sent her. What a bunch of horseshit! Forced to buy Seeking.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2995779]Fuck indo immigration and there onward flight requirement.[/QUOTE]Well at least they won't disappear you and ship your ass to a detention center in Borneo or something. Americans complaining about other countries immigration requirements have me shaking my head.

Guys! Forget Classic. Kotah Indah is so much better!

I've been going there every day for the last 5 days to various bars and the quality of girls blows Classic out of the water!

Also the quantity! Each of the main 4-5 bars have close to a 100 girls each. And there are many smaller bars too.

Also there is a lot less issues with girls once in the bedroom and in general they are a lot more friendly and willing to serve.

Also no entry charges, you can go in and out of the various bars as you like.

Also mama-sans are less pushy and a general vibe in the bars is a lot more fun and party like.

It was my first time there and boy was it so much better than the classic Classic / Emporium combination (pun intended).

I've been constantly having amazing experiences there one better than the next.

I can't emphasize enough how much better it was.

Forget Classic, just go to Kotah Indah instead.

Try it and see for yourself.

P.S. Just to clarify, my preferences are touchy feely, deep kissing, condom on, normal sex, speaks basic English (that one was hit and miss). So maybe its not so good for bareback aficionados, anal enthusiasts, riming professionals, pussy connoisseurs, etc. (Or maybe its all available, I just didn't try).

On the other hand 1001 and Seeking disappointed me quite a bit.

1001 Spa was nothing special. I heard the girls there are goddesses. That's bullshit, they are just normal girls same as everywhere else. Just 4 times the price (or 8).

International girls were all on the older side too.

Seeking was a bit of a disaster for me. Not a lot of girls I liked and the ones I contacted either didn't respond or charged high prices.

The only girl I arranged a meting with ended in a disaster because of some small misunderstanding (I had to cancel 15 minutes before the meeting that we both spent time preparing for).

I only have one day in Jakarta for sightseeing. Should I do Ancol or Bangdung? I have to be back in Jakarta for my 11 pm flight.

[QUOTE=Astral100;2996386]On the other hand 1001 and Seeking disappointed me quite a bit.

1001 Spa was nothing special. I heard the girls there are goddesses. That's bullshit, they are just normal girls same as everywhere else. Just 4 times the price (or 8).

International girls were all on the older side too.

Seeking was a bit of a disaster for me. Not a lot of girls I liked and the ones I contacted either didn't respond or charged high prices.

The only girl I arranged a meting with ended in a disaster because of some small misunderstanding (I had to cancel 15 minutes before the meeting that we both spent time preparing for).[/QUOTE]I tried seeking too I had the same experience.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2996342]I have tinder gold. I have been sending likes to 300 ladies. I don't have any matches. Is this odd? What the fuck is wrong?. I don't like you, I super like you. What the fuck does that mean? And well boost your like? What vague services they offer. How do you even trust these fuckers?

And if they have to boost your like what does that say about the first like you sent her. What a bunch of horseshit! Forced to buy Seeking.[/QUOTE]I got the same experience. It was completely different to the past when I used tinder gold which tables me to meet girls who would finish working at ktv and bars and go on dates with normal girls. This time I used it when I was in Jakarta so it would show the distance from them. But nope didn't make a difference I don't know why it's so bad. Actually I had lots of matches then when I upgraded to gold I got next to zero for a couple of days. it was like they made me invisible.

[QUOTE=Astral100;2996385]Guys! Forget Classic. Kotah Indah is so much better!

...

Forget Classic, just go to Kotah Indah instead.


...[/QUOTE]Provided you don't mind crappy rooms. The Sari Ayu mattress was so worn off it was barely usable. Springs bit into my knees real bad. At Royal it was somewhat better but still bad by any standards.

Recently made a trip to this beautiful mongering heaven city some mongers know it as 'Jakarta', my timing was awful (worst) just on the eid holidays couldn't do much as I was asked by superiors to visit this time. I made a few trips in the past and have explored all places like 1001 colosseum classic travel KC Kelpa Gading emporium massage places and online. Last trip was pure online and I did fairly well so decided to continue and try girls who I couldn't previously.

Girl 1:

She had Japanese style hairstyle, from Bandung, last time she had her periods so asked her to take the fast train or bus ride to Jakarta. Flat chest, A size boobs young in her 20's decent face and a nice ass. As you can read my handle, I am a sucker for good ass. She arrived my hotel same time I checked in, it was eid festivities so my options were few and limited, when she arrived I was a little disappointed as she had some pimples on face but still a 6/10 and that ass was gorgeous. I did video call with her a couple of times, man these filter apps are good. In room she was all ok but clearly told me 3 things were not doable, shoot in pussy, no recording of face and anal. She was a great sport in room, anytime and whatever I wanted was there. Made some videos of her without face and she did a great job in room pleasing me nice happy attitude, finished in mouth and a decent time. Stayed the night, paid her 2.3-2.5 mio all in. 2 times at night, in the middle of night (no finish) when I became horny and one session in the morning. If it wasn't eid I could have avoided but still a decent overall performance I say 6/10.

Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.

I was after this chick to play with me but she clearly told me that she wasn't interested in a local arrangement, so I planned an international trip. Tickets hotel everything booked at my end for a 2 day sex romp, but some unplanned events occurred and trip was called off. We both were disappointed and extremely sad, so I asked her for a local meeting in Jakarta and she was okay with it. The build up to this day was HUGE, we were messaging every day and it was like hard-core sexting to a different level. She sent me her sext tape with another monger and it was like 'I must bang this chick at any cost' so this trip was planned partially for her as well. She works in the hotel industry and had great looking colleagues / friends. I told her and she was okay for it the next time. Looked very nice and had a great body, be cup breasts size and an amazing M ass, we had a drink at a nearby restaurant and chit chatted after which we went inside the room. Her parents were visiting so I had only 3-4 hours with her. She was open to all including CIP CIM (swallow) anal golden shower BDSM multiple shoots and of course no condom. She was around 25-26 and had a well-defined body due to her gym workouts and Pilates and yoga. The sex was breath-taking and too good to be true. Easily amongst my top 5 ever, she kept asking for more and harder. Must have orgasm-ed 8-10 times, no kidding yeah. Guys these indo girls are so horny its difficult to satisfy them at times and today was one such day. I am lean fit muscular energetic and horny but I also felt the dizziness a few times when I was banging her. I eat and drink well. I finished inside her mouth and she swallowed a little. We went out to a nearby bar for drinks and had a good conversation. Spoke crisp English with an accent versatile and had good knowledge, Respect. We came back to room and had another deadly session, and she left around midnight. We tried anal, but she was so tight that I couldn't enter, she couldn't take the pain and started crying so I left her at that. We made out on the bed table sofa overlooking the window and the view of Jakarta city was fantastic, especially from 75-80th floor her ass in doggie and the city just WOW. We also did in the toilet on the floor, in the shower, spectacular evening. Man she screamed / moaned like crazy, there were moments when I was thinking my neighbour will knock and kick me for spoiling his sleep but I was like if there is one I am sure he is enjoying and recording the act. Lots of ass spanking and hard slapping her face cheeks. I remember when I sent her a message that I wanted BDSM her immediate reply was yesss with a huge smile and thumbs up, can't believe these indo girls love heavy BDSM. I paid her 3 mio, I know it was a little high. She started with 4 mio initially and wasn't even interested in the meeting but somehow I had to convince her. 3 mio was totally worth it and if I knew the evening would be like this I would have given 4 mio as well. I was totally drained out and called it a night. Slept peacefully. Her 9/10, -1 for anal. She messaged me the next day and wanted another evening and I was like yeah but no, she didn't want to stay the night and I wanted to try a new babe.

More to come soon.

[QUOTE=XXL;2996484]Provided you don't mind crappy rooms. The Sari Ayu mattress was so worn off it was barely usable. Springs bit into my knees real bad. At Royal it was somewhat better but still bad by any standards.[/QUOTE]Thats true.

I guess I also need to list the negatives of Kotah Indah.

The main 2 ones for me were:

- Crappy rooms (although I like that they provide water inside) with bad showers (water pressure very low), and crappy beds.

- The weird arrangement of the girls in the bars, where they all are gathered together in one big group, with some pillars or furniture in the way.

And they also use their phones looking down and not looking outside, and they don't walk around much, so you have to move around their area to see selection from many different angles.

Some girls you can only see from a single spot, like move to the left or the right one step and you can't see them anymore.

But on the positive side the lightning is usually good, so you can actually see what the girls looks like.

But yeah, this arrangement is weird, so you need either glasses or good eyesight and move around the group yourself.

Also not sure if its a negative, but girls there don't start sessions with the blowjobs by default like in Classic.

I personally don't need or like it, so for me it works out. None of this Listerine wiping bullshit.

In response to original comment, for me, I would rather have a great experience in a crappy room that an average experience in a great room. YMMV.

Bandung is a small city and has hills & mountains better air quality and traffic. The city is small but not clean and the only place to hang out is near Braga street, that's the night life spot. Plan some chicks if you decide to go to Bandung, plenty of girls there and despo ones. Do remember the train station in Bandung will take you 30 minutes to get to center of city.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;2996404]I only have one day in Jakarta for sightseeing. Should I do Ancol or Bangdung? I have to be back in Jakarta for my 11 pm flight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AssGuru;2996513]

Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.
...[/QUOTE]This is too hot. I have a trip planned in June and can't wait to go back to Jakarta. Had 2 girls coming to my room and that was heaven.

[QUOTE=AssGuru;2996513]Recently made a trip to this beautiful mongering heaven city some mongers know it as 'Jakarta', my timing was awful (worst) just on the eid holidays couldn't do much as I was asked by superiors to visit this time. I made a few trips in the past and have explored all places like 1001 colosseum classic travel KC Kelpa Gading emporium massage places and online. Last trip was pure online and I did fairly well so decided to continue and try girls who I couldn't previously.

Girl 1:

She had Japanese style hairstyle, from Bandung, last time she had her periods so asked her to take the fast train or bus ride to Jakarta. Flat chest, A size boobs young in her 20's decent face and a nice ass. As you can read my handle, I am a sucker for good ass. She arrived my hotel same time I checked in, it was eid festivities so my options were few and limited, when she arrived I was a little disappointed as she had some pimples on face but still a 6/10 and that ass was gorgeous. I did video call with her a couple of times, man these filter apps are good. In room she was all ok but clearly told me 3 things were not doable, shoot in pussy, no recording of face and anal. She was a great sport in room, anytime and whatever I wanted was there. Made some videos of her without face and she did a great job in room pleasing me nice happy attitude, finished in mouth and a decent time. Stayed the night, paid her 2.3-2.5 mio all in. 2 times at night, in the middle of night (no finish) when I became horny and one session in the morning. If it wasn't eid I could have avoided but still a decent overall performance I say 6/10.

Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.

I was after this chick to play with me but she clearly told me that she wasn't interested in a local arrangement, so I planned an international trip. Tickets hotel everything booked at my end for a 2 day sex romp, but some unplanned events occurred and trip was called off. We both were disappointed and extremely sad, so I asked her for a local meeting in Jakarta and she was okay with it. The build up to this day was HUGE, we were messaging every day and it was like hard-core sexting to a different level. She sent me her sext tape with another monger and it was like 'I must bang this chick at any cost' so this trip was planned partially for her as well. She works in the hotel industry and had great looking colleagues / friends. I told her and she was okay for it the next time. Looked very nice and had a great body, be cup breasts size and an amazing M ass, we had a drink at a nearby restaurant and chit chatted after which we went inside the room. Her parents were visiting so I had only 3-4 hours with her. She was open to all including CIP CIM (swallow) anal golden shower BDSM multiple shoots and of course no condom. She was around 25-26 and had a well-defined body due to her gym workouts and Pilates and yoga. The sex was breath-taking and too good to be true. Easily amongst my top 5 ever, she kept asking for more and harder. Must have orgasm-ed 8-10 times, no kidding yeah. Guys these indo girls are so horny its difficult to satisfy them at times and today was one such day. I am lean fit muscular energetic and horny but I also felt the dizziness a few times when I was banging her. I eat and drink well. I finished inside her mouth and she swallowed a little. We went out to a nearby bar for drinks and had a good conversation. Spoke crisp English with an accent versatile and had good knowledge, Respect. We came back to room and had another deadly session, and she left around midnight. We tried anal, but she was so tight that I couldn't enter, she couldn't take the pain and started crying so I left her at that. We made out on the bed table sofa overlooking the window and the view of Jakarta city was fantastic, especially from 75-80th floor her ass in doggie and the city just WOW. We also did in the toilet on the floor, in the shower, spectacular evening. Man she screamed / moaned like crazy, there were moments when I was thinking my neighbour will knock and kick me for spoiling his sleep but I was like if there is one I am sure he is enjoying and recording the act. Lots of ass spanking and hard slapping her face cheeks. I remember when I sent her a message that I wanted BDSM her immediate reply was yesss with a huge smile and thumbs up, can't believe these indo girls love heavy BDSM. I paid her 3 mio, I know it was a little high. She started with 4 mio initially and wasn't even interested in the meeting but somehow I had to convince her. 3 mio was totally worth it and if I knew the evening would be like this I would have given 4 mio as well. I was totally drained out and called it a night. Slept peacefully. Her 9/10, -1 for anal. She messaged me the next day and wanted another evening and I was like yeah but no, she didn't want to stay the night and I wanted to try a new babe.

More to come soon.[/QUOTE]KC? Is that mis-print?

[QUOTE=AssGuru;2996513]Recently made a trip to this beautiful mongering heaven city some mongers know it as 'Jakarta', my timing was awful (worst) just on the eid holidays couldn't do much as I was asked by superiors to visit this time. I made a few trips in the past and have explored all places like 1001 colosseum classic travel KC Kelpa Gading emporium massage places and online. Last trip was pure online and I did fairly well so decided to continue and try girls who I couldn't previously.

Girl 1:

She had Japanese style hairstyle, from Bandung, last time she had her periods so asked her to take the fast train or bus ride to Jakarta. Flat chest, A size boobs young in her 20's decent face and a nice ass. As you can read my handle, I am a sucker for good ass. She arrived my hotel same time I checked in, it was eid festivities so my options were few and limited, when she arrived I was a little disappointed as she had some pimples on face but still a 6/10 and that ass was gorgeous. I did video call with her a couple of times, man these filter apps are good. In room she was all ok but clearly told me 3 things were not doable, shoot in pussy, no recording of face and anal. She was a great sport in room, anytime and whatever I wanted was there. Made some videos of her without face and she did a great job in room pleasing me nice happy attitude, finished in mouth and a decent time. Stayed the night, paid her 2.3-2.5 mio all in. 2 times at night, in the middle of night (no finish) when I became horny and one session in the morning. If it wasn't eid I could have avoided but still a decent overall performance I say 6/10.

Girl 2: total kickass and unbelievable, great memories.

I was after this chick to play with me but she clearly told me that she wasn't interested in a local arrangement, so I planned an international trip. Tickets hotel everything booked at my end for a 2 day sex romp, but some unplanned events occurred and trip was called off. We both were disappointed and extremely sad, so I asked her for a local meeting in Jakarta and she was okay with it. The build up to this day was HUGE, we were messaging every day and it was like hard-core sexting to a different level. She sent me her sext tape with another monger and it was like 'I must bang this chick at any cost' so this trip was planned partially for her as well. She works in the hotel industry and had great looking colleagues / friends. I told her and she was okay for it the next time. Looked very nice and had a great body, be cup breasts size and an amazing M ass, we had a drink at a nearby restaurant and chit chatted after which we went inside the room. Her parents were visiting so I had only 3-4 hours with her. She was open to all including CIP CIM (swallow) anal golden shower BDSM multiple shoots and of course no condom. She was around 25-26 and had a well-defined body due to her gym workouts and Pilates and yoga. The sex was breath-taking and too good to be true. Easily amongst my top 5 ever, she kept asking for more and harder. Must have orgasm-ed 8-10 times, no kidding yeah. Guys these indo girls are so horny its difficult to satisfy them at times and today was one such day. I am lean fit muscular energetic and horny but I also felt the dizziness a few times when I was banging her. I eat and drink well. I finished inside her mouth and she swallowed a little. We went out to a nearby bar for drinks and had a good conversation. Spoke crisp English with an accent versatile and had good knowledge, Respect. We came back to room and had another deadly session, and she left around midnight. We tried anal, but she was so tight that I couldn't enter, she couldn't take the pain and started crying so I left her at that. We made out on the bed table sofa overlooking the window and the view of Jakarta city was fantastic, especially from 75-80th floor her ass in doggie and the city just WOW. We also did in the toilet on the floor, in the shower, spectacular evening. Man she screamed / moaned like crazy, there were moments when I was thinking my neighbour will knock and kick me for spoiling his sleep but I was like if there is one I am sure he is enjoying and recording the act. Lots of ass spanking and hard slapping her face cheeks. I remember when I sent her a message that I wanted BDSM her immediate reply was yesss with a huge smile and thumbs up, can't believe these indo girls love heavy BDSM. I paid her 3 mio, I know it was a little high. She started with 4 mio initially and wasn't even interested in the meeting but somehow I had to convince her. 3 mio was totally worth it and if I knew the evening would be like this I would have given 4 mio as well. I was totally drained out and called it a night. Slept peacefully. Her 9/10, -1 for anal. She messaged me the next day and wanted another evening and I was like yeah but no, she didn't want to stay the night and I wanted to try a new babe.

More to come soon.[/QUOTE]Any pictures mate?

[QUOTE=Astral100;2996385]I've been going there every day for the last 5 days to various bars and the quality of girls blows Classic out of the water!

Also the quantity! Each of the main 4-5 bars have close to a 100 girls each. And there are many smaller bars too.

Also there is a lot less issues with girls once in the bedroom and in general they are a lot more friendly and willing to serve.[/QUOTE]From my limited experience, girls quality are about the same or worse than Classic. I can still find 1 or 2 girls doable but generally average quality is not as good as Classic.

Room at Starmoon bar is so much more depressing than Classic room.

[QUOTE=Astral100;2996386]1001 Spa was nothing special. I heard the girls there are goddesses. That's bullshit, they are just normal girls same as everywhere else. Just 4 times the price (or 8).

International girls were all on the older side too.[/QUOTE]Girls at 1001 spa are 7-8-9. Classic 5-6-7.

I had service with a girl at 1001 spa with solid 9. Indonesian, light skin, tall 1 m65, model hour glass body. Trooper service. We sweat a lot during the session.

The problem at 1001 spa is price is too expensive. It's hard to negotiate for extra service. Girls would likely don't bother unless willing to pay a lot.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;2996404]I only have one day in Jakarta for sightseeing. Should I do Ancol or Bangdung? I have to be back in Jakarta for my 11 pm flight.[/QUOTE]You might be risking it with Bandung. You'd have to swoosh in and out, no way you'll make it in a car.

Ancol is hot and a lot of walking. There's a water park sea world and dunia fantasi there. It's fun if you go there with a young date. Sucks to go alone.

Theres also old batavia but that's really become just a totally shitty tourist dive.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2996552]KC? Is that mis-print?[/QUOTE]King Cross.

With and without panties, enjoyyyy.

[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2996590]Any pictures mate?[/QUOTE]

Yeah it was bro, trust you me. Lucky you, will have lots of fun in June. I remember a punter told me he had 4 girls at one time in Jakarta. He had booked a suite for them he banged all one by one while others waited anxiously in the other room.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2996535]This is too hot. I have a trip planned in June and can't wait to go back to Jakarta. Had 2 girls coming to my room and that was heaven.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AssGuru;2996737]With and without panties, enjoyyyy.[/QUOTE]Wow, somebody actually posted photos.

Happened with me earlier. I figured out the reason being shadow blocked by Tinder. Everything remain as is except that you cannot be discovered and your likes doesn't reach the girls. Could happen if someone reported you or you keep virtually changing locations often. Cannot do much except to create a new account.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2996425]I got the same experience. It was completely different to the past when I used tinder gold which tables me to meet girls who would finish working at ktv and bars and go on dates with normal girls. This time I used it when I was in Jakarta so it would show the distance from them. But nope didn't make a difference I don't know why it's so bad. Actually I had lots of matches then when I upgraded to gold I got next to zero for a couple of days. it was like they made me invisible.[/QUOTE]

Friends, Emporium, sagitarious / fortune are the ones I have been visiting, but it's becoming monotonous now.

Any place especially in Central / South with good options (no classic / travel please). Any international cuisine would be appreciated as well.

As for my latest experience. Went to Delta. I had been going to only 2 therapists there everytime to make them open up to me and explore more than HJ, and I think I was becoming successful, but as per latest, both of them have left. So took a new therapist. Massage was really good with enough teasing around balls etc, followed by a standard HJ. Because this was first time with this girl, she didn't allow touching or even kissing. Anyone had more than HJ at this place?

[QUOTE=Astral100;2996385]Guys! Forget Classic. Kotah Indah is so much better!

I've been going there every day for the last 5 days to various bars and the quality of girls blows Classic out of the water!

Also the quantity! Each of the main 4-5 bars have close to a 100 girls each. And there are many smaller bars too.

Also there is a lot less issues with girls once in the bedroom and in general they are a lot more friendly and willing to serve.

Also no entry charges, you can go in and out of the various bars as you like.

Also mama-sans are less pushy and a general vibe in the bars is a lot more fun and party like.

It was my first time there and boy was it so much better than the classic Classic / Emporium combination (pun intended).

I've been constantly having amazing experiences there one better than the next..[/QUOTE]I'm also looking for what you're looking for in sex. So far, I've only been to Emporium, Classic, and Travel, and I was actually really satisfied. Especially Classic with its three floors. Thanks to your recommendation, I'm going to try Kota India. I hope it's as good as you say.

[QUOTE=WhoCaresReally;2996952]Happened with me earlier. I figured out the reason being shadow blocked by Tinder. Everything remain as is except that you cannot be discovered and your likes doesn't reach the girls. Could happen if someone reported you or you keep virtually changing locations often. Cannot do much except to create a new account.[/QUOTE]Thankyou I will try this next time. Weird how I got matches when was in Jakarta but when I upgraded to gold to see who liked me so I could match with them no more likes or matches. I might just go regular tinder and create an account whilst I'm there.

Just a quick data point. Line-up is better at 2 pm, before any customers start coming in, than at 3 pm, after part of the girls got taken to the rooms. So if you want to session early, 2 pm is better than 3 pm.

One Classic girl told me they had many customers from Taiwan. I asked who were the bigger spenders, the Taiwanese or the Communist Chinese. She said "by far the latter". We all seem to be getter poorer these days, except the Red Chinese.

[QUOTE=XXL;2997107]Just a quick data point. Line-up is better at 2 pm, before any customers start coming in, than at 3 pm, after part of the girls got taken to the rooms. So if you want to session early, 2 pm is better than 3 pm.

One Classic girl told me they had many customers from Taiwan. I asked who were the bigger spenders, the Taiwanese or the Communist Chinese. She said "by far the latter". We all seem to be getter poorer these days, except the Red Chinese.[/QUOTE]Dude, nobody calls them "Communist" or "Red". If you want to distinguish from Taiwanese you can say "Mainland" Chinese.

[QUOTE=XXL;2997107]Just a quick data point. Line-up is better at 2 pm, before any customers start coming in, than at 3 pm, after part of the girls got taken to the rooms. So if you want to session early, 2 pm is better than 3 pm.
[/QUOTE]That's very interesting. I went as early as possible (around noon for a lunch break would be best for me), but earliest I've been there was a bit after 3 pm, and I remember thinking I should continue trying to delay it till at least after 4 pm as before. Hope your one data point was not an outlier.

I know at least some of the shifts start at 3 pm though (and maybe others start later too, that I don't know).

Reading back far enough on this thread, then you are aware of a war of words between gabacho and the veterans on this thread. Today the slightest critical thought against a fellow member will get you banned.

Now for the matterat hand. Have you ever tried to operate. Type on this website with a smartphone? It sucks! I arret ived Jakarta yesterday. My internet ughtconnection, telkomsel, bought for a premium price at the airport, seems unable to pierce the wall of a 6.

Th story lokisari hotel. Foolishly I bought into or was funneled into a booth at thve airport that registered my imei. Now nothing works on my phone. Been declined.

With emultiple vpns. If someone jumps out of a lokisari hotel in the next 48 hours it was me But before I jump.

1 starmoon a pillar and furniture block your view? What the het 2 feet fu shill are you talking about? You shift 2 feet in either direction, there is no pillar. As far as fur furniture in your way, there is no furniture.

My life Could saveBack to the matter at hand. You could save my life explaining to shme how I establisha vpn on my laptop? I'm struggling writing this on my phone. I'm in trouble, big time. If any of you have been without your phone and laptop for more than 48 hours you know how I feel. Oh and dealing with no elec. Strip and two prong outlets. When you are green into Jakarta airport the learnin s steepg curve is steep. I need help, you could save my life.

Haha, that is awesome. But I am too old for 4 girls, can only handle 2 at a time.

Looking forward for multiple threesome sessions, already planned 2 sessions and talking to some more on Seeking.

[QUOTE=AssGuru;2996738]Yeah it was bro, trust you me. Lucky you, will have lots of fun in June. I remember a punter told me he had 4 girls at one time in Jakarta. He had booked a suite for them he banged all one by one while others waited anxiously in the other room.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

You guys are awesomex read some great insights.
Got 4 days in Jakarta.

I will try classic, emporium etc for the first two days whilst busy at other stuffs.

Looking keen to meet sudans or Javanese girls will this be only in bundang or any other location possible, may be in Jakarta itself?

Any leads to find independents, sugar babes g🏪who give good service? Or may be a pimp gives Links or advice would be grateful.

Any one used sanggadis website? Hot girls but looks photoshopped. Any feedback will be great.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2997324]Haha, that is awesome. But I am too old for 4 girls, can only handle 2 at a time.

Looking forward for multiple threesome sessions, already planned 2 sessions and talking to some more on Seeking.[/QUOTE]Only for couple of days. Any leads to find SB apart from paying a fortune at seeking.

Plantsmoke. I am hurting real bad from true sim card that would transmit thru a steel door to telkomsel that.

Seems to have difficulty going thru hotel walls. Yesterday at kota inda I would type translation and "one one thousand two two thousand" awkward.

Seconds before Bahasa appears. WTF? Is something wrong? The sim was bought at airport first booth on left. It sais telkomsel LIte 60 Gb. Real unhappy, prepared.

To go all the way back to airport and argue.

I'm Hi-jacked with my laptop. Anybody ever try to navigate this forum with a smart phone? Its not fun.

If ever I needed assistance from a stranger, it is now. 100 $, or name your price to install a working vpn on my laptop at a Jakarta coffee shop / starbucks?

And then paranoia sets in after I was unwillingly funneled into a booth at the airport to register my imei. I'm worried.

Indo government is preventing me from a vpn. Why can't they have a vpn that simply has an icon "CONNECT".

You would be doing a humanitarian favor preventing me from jumping thru a window and meeting a new friend. Please have mercy on my soul.

Took money out of a ATM BRI bank lokasaari plaza and it did not prompt me whether or not I wanted currencre chancry conversion.

I guess they decide in their favor. I'll go back tomorrow and find someone to argue with. Of course the world today is one giant fucking.

Call center and rarely ever do you get to *****-out the one responsible. And Jakarta? One giant electric fence that you pee on before you learn.

I'm getting tired of withdrawing fucking money here. More withdrawals equals more chances the machine will eat your card, more chances for fraud.

Can someone tell me the top 3 atms that consistently dispense 2 million and above?

And no I'm not choosing blue 50000 notes. Acquire small bills thru 100000 change.

Lokisari plaza: I see the carcasses of of bintang mawar and I guess Madonna's that were open in 2010 when I was last here.

Anything around here, lokisari, aside from mamasans / street hookers? Any pubs, spas?

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2996960]Friends, Emporium, sagitarious / fortune are the ones I have been visiting, but it's becoming monotonous now.

Any place especially in Central / South with good options (no classic / travel please). Any international cuisine would be appreciated as well.

[/QUOTE]For international cuisine, try Tugu Kunstkring Paleis, good cuisine and you will feel like a Dutch settler, back in the time.

I do the train tracks, if someone wants to explore the 2 next stations, PM me.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997409]Plantsmoke. I am hurting real bad from true sim card that would transmit thru a steel door to telkomsel that.

Seems to have difficulty going thru hotel walls. Yesterday at kota inda I would type translation and "one one thousand two two thousand" awkward.

Seconds before Bahasa appears. WTF? Is something wrong? The sim was bought at airport first booth on left. It sais telkomsel LIte 60 Gb. Real unhappy, prepared.

To go all the way back to airport and argue.

I'm Hi-jacked with my laptop. Anybody ever try to navigate this forum with a smart phone? Its not fun.

If ever I needed assistance from a stranger, it is now. 100 $, or name your price to install a working vpn on my laptop at a Jakarta coffee shop / starbucks?

And then paranoia sets in after I was unwillingly funneled into a booth at the airport to register my imei. I'm worried.

Indo government is preventing me from a vpn. Why can't they have a vpn that simply has an icon "CONNECT".

You would be doing a humanitarian favor preventing me from jumping thru a window and meeting a new friend. Please have mercy on my soul.[/QUOTE]No offense but your posts are increasing annoying.

All you need to do is download a VPN called WindscrIbe. You can find it in the Google play store. You can also download it onto your laptop. Even I have it on my Chromebook as a Google Chrome extension and it works flawlessly.

And I always use ISG from my smartphone. I even did my eVOA and 30 day visa extension through my smartphone too LOL.

As far as your signal being weak it has nothing to do with the sim card itself. It has to do with the signal strength coming from the cell phone towers and your phone's hardware.

If the ATM didn't mention a conversion fee then you weren't charged one. I used BRI all the time when I was there and was never charged a fee. It might depend on whom you bank with whether or not you are charged a fee but the ATM will mention the fee if you were charged one and you would have to accept or decline it, so by default if there was no mention of a fee then there was no fee charged. You can do the math if you have any doubt, Rp 1,200,000 (a common max withdrawal amount at ATMs in Jakarta) should show up on your account as $71.40 USD give or take). As far as the ATM eating your card that is highly unlikely unless if you forget your card inside the ATM but you should always have several back up cards in the rare event that does happen and have them linked together through zelle so you can zelle yourself money between the different cards.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Funie;2997385]Hey guys,

You guys are awesomex read some great insights.
Got 4 days in Jakarta.

I will try classic, emporium etc for the first two days whilst busy at other stuffs.

Looking keen to meet sudans or Javanese girls will this be only in bundang or any other location possible, may be in Jakarta itself?

Any leads to find independents, sugar babes g🏪who give good service? Or may be a pimp gives Links or advice would be grateful.

Any one used sanggadis website? Hot girls but looks photoshopped. Any feedback will be great.[/QUOTE]Sudan is a country in Africa.

I'm assuming you meant Sundanese which is an ethnic group in Indonesia. There are Sundanese and Javanese women all over Jakarta. However the Javanese outnumber the Sundanese by a factor of 3 to 1. Jakarta is the largest city on the island of Java.

There are also a lot of ethnic Chinese and Chinese-Indonesian mixed people living in Jakarta. In the area north of classic (the neighborhoods between the Sawa Besar and Mangga Besar metro stations) I ran into alot of ethnic Chinese. One guy who I ran into at a small local dive restaurant even paid for my lunch after talking with me for about a half hour. He was very friendly and interested in the fact that I was there walking around his neighborhood. He told me he was Indo-Chinese but didn't speak any mandarin and that the area I was in was all Indo-Chinese people. When I was done eating and I asked the waitress "berapa" trying to ask how much I owed, the dude told me that he was going to pay it and then he thanked me for coming to his country and welcomed me and said he hoped I enjoyed my stay and would come back again. I also saw a Buddhist temple there on the same street as the small fire station.

The Sundanese women have whiter skin than the Javanese women so that should help you distinguish them. Also you can ask them where they are from "kamu dari mana?" in my experience the Sundanese would usually say Bandung or Bogor.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997288]Reading back far enough on this thread, then you are aware of a war of words between gabacho and the veterans on this thread. Today the slightest critical thought against a fellow member will get you banned.
.[/QUOTE]I would hardly consider American Expat and Loveithere69 to be veterans. I'm more of a veteran here than they are. I've been active on ISG since atleast 2021 in the Colombia forums and I was reading ISG for many years before that. I also have met fellow ISG members in person such as SubCmdr who is one of the real veterans of ISG. Also I have contributed more information than LIH and American Expat combined.

Infact I just helped you with your VPN and ATM issues in my previous post.

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

I will be back in Jakarta soon and this time I am going to explore the open air brothel of Bekasi (the one that was mentioned in December by GG and then plagiarized by LIH69 a day later).

I also have a civvie girlfriend (the one I took to the taco bell at the grand Indonesia mall) who will be accompanying me on my side trip to Bandung and helping me to find and fuck Sundanese civvies in Bandung. So be on the lookout for my new reports coming this summer.

It would be nice to get back to reading real reports rather than reading complaints about not knowing how to use a VPN on a laptop.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997450]Took money out of a ATM BRI bank lokasaari plaza and it did not prompt me whether or not I wanted currencre chancry conversion.

I guess they decide in their favor. I'll go back tomorrow and find someone to argue with. Of course the world today is one giant fucking.

Call center and rarely ever do you get to *****-out the one responsible. And Jakarta? One giant electric fence that you pee on before you learn.

I'm getting tired of withdrawing fucking money here. More withdrawals equals more chances the machine will eat your card, more chances for fraud.

Can someone tell me the top 3 atms that consistently dispense 2 million and above?

And no I'm not choosing blue 50000 notes. Acquire small bills thru 100000 change.

Lokisari plaza: I see the carcasses of of bintang mawar and I guess Madonna's that were open in 2010 when I was last here.

Anything around here, lokisari, aside from mamasans / street hookers? Any pubs, spas?[/QUOTE]I always fly with two credit cards, which is actually helpful if you don't want to pay in cash on the Classic. I read here that there are ATMs at the airport with more money for withdrawals. I've tried quite a few myself and never got past 1. 3 million.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2997218]That's very interesting. I went as early as possible (around noon for a lunch break would be best for me), but earliest I've been there was a bit after 3 pm, and I remember thinking I should continue trying to delay it till at least after 4 pm as before. Hope your one data point was not an outlier.

I know at least some of the shifts start at 3 pm though (and maybe others start later too, that I don't know).[/QUOTE]If you have time, a lot of time, then watch the spectacle between 4:30 and 5:30 pm In front of the entrance on the street. There, you'll see motorcycles with women on the back arriving every minute, and you'll understand why it makes little sense to go there before 5:30 pm.

Try OkCupid, someone said it worked for them.

[QUOTE=Funie;2997389]Only for couple of days. Any leads to find SB apart from paying a fortune at seeking.[/QUOTE]

Made a visit to Emporium. Not much to report that hasn't already reported. Notable things were: All in price was 1. 9 for a girl in black. Red was 1. 6 I believe. Nobody asked me for additional tips or upsells. Phone locked up in the case. Most of the time everything is in the locker, which I was wondering if it was a bad idea cause they could steal my money. Visited at 3 pm there were only 9 girls available. Some time in the pool and then to the room. I wasn't sure how long the entire session was supposed to be?

[QUOTE=Joe2422;2997519]I always fly with two credit cards, which is actually helpful if you don't want to pay in cash on the Classic. I read here that there are ATMs at the airport with more money for withdrawals. I've tried quite a few myself and never got past 1. 3 million.[/QUOTE]No! I was just at at the airport yesterday; BCA? Second floor I withdrew 2 million, 10 minutes later 2. 5 million but I did not push for 3 millon.

If I have to take out 1 million at a time I will leave the country! L.

That is precisely what this forum should be about! NOT I PILE DROVE HER AND CAME INSIDE HER. (What exactly is a pile driver? Drives the shit to the sewer?

Some of these posters, and they know who they are, we already know you came in her, otherwise you wouldn't of fucked her.

I got the ass right now, am having a terrible time. Dealing with a weak telkomsel sim card called "Lite" that apparently was designed so you can use it in batam.

It is terrible! Ill take the 42 $ loss and get another sim. This forum could have saved me; I reading are. O. the. And 85 pages of fucking poetry.

I know these members! They don't care how I I feel; that I am experiencing great digital hardship; that is of course unless I have value to them. Well my info, bekasi.

In particular, but also Jakarta. Bekasi info would make zippos bekasi spa report read like a bekasi breeze-over. If I don't post again it means I never was able to establish a vpn.

On my laptop and left the country in frustration.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2997478]No offense but your posts are increasing annoying.

All you need to do is download a VPN called WindscrIbe. You can find it in the Google play store. You can also download it onto your laptop. Even I have it on my Chromebook as a Google Chrome extension and it works flawlessly.

And I always use ISG from my smartphone. I even did my eVOA and 30 day visa extension through my smartphone too LOL.

As far as your signal being weak it has nothing to do with the sim card itself. It has to do with the signal strength coming from the cell phone towers and your phone's hardware.

If the ATM didn't mention a conversion fee then you weren't charged one. I used BRI all the time when I was there and was never charged a fee. It might depend on whom you bank with whether or not you are charged a fee but the ATM will mentionpage the fee if you were charged one and you would have to accept or decline it, so by default if there was no mention of a fee then there was no fee charged. You can do the math if you have any doubt, Rp 1,200,000 (a common max withdrawal amount at ATMs in Jakarta) should show up on your account as $71.40 USD give or take). As far as the ATM eating your card that is highly unlikely unless if you forget your card inside the ATM but you should always have several back up cards in the rare event that does happen and have them linked together through zelle so you can zelle yourself money between the different cards.

. -Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Oh well you seem to be a digital wizard and are "light-stepping" the complexity of winscreens face-page. For those of us that are over 60.

These ops of connecting a vpn to a laptop are diffiicult. More than that it is frustrating as the error messages read like a doctors signature on your.

Prescription.

Notwithstanding the lack of sympathy you have for my digital hardships and rough first days here in Jakarta; I commend you for being attentiveOn this.

Board and being willing to help out another member.

You critisized me so turnabout is fairplay. I read back into late 2024 when you had firstarrived to lokisari. In fact you reported a chemical smell in the hallways.

At sparks hotel that turned me away from there. I noticed back then that you were asking a ton of questions back then and June fly hooked you up with mamasans / girls contact info in lokasari.

You were at the whim, at the mercy, of these members acceptiny private messages. So that being said, why in the hell don't you accept private messages?. Can you show the love, and share mamasan / girl contact info to me thru a private message? The same love that was shown to you when you were green in lokisari?

Went there around 4 pm. Only about 20 girls present. I was told it usually fills up between 7 and 8.

I picked the most beautiful one, a stunning 23 yo with great skin, slim body and a giant rack. Definitely a 9 in my book. There is no way you find a girl like that in classic.

I felt like she took good care of me, but she insisted on CBJ. She did everything very slowly which I enjoy a lot. But At the end, we ran out of time. The lights in the room started to flash indicating end of time, while we were still fucking. Managed to come, but didn't like the pressure at the end.

I only had the free welcome drink and paid 1,8 juta.

I feel this price would be very much justified if BBBJ was included, for the quality of the girls and the rooms.

Next time I'll go later in the evening, ask for BBBJ before committing and I'll watch the time.

Actually, for 1,8 juta you can chat up to 30 minutes with the girl in the bar area, then you go straight to the room and you have one shot. For 3,4 juta you have 3 hours including the spa area and 2 shots.

Apparently, there are not many Indonesian clients here. I was told Most are from Singapore and China.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2997493] When I was done eating and I asked the waitress "berapa" trying to ask how much I owed, the dude told me that he was going to pay it and then he thanked me for coming to his country and welcomed me and said he hoped I enjoyed my stay and would come back again. I also saw a Buddhist temple there on the same street as the small fire station.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I will be always amazed by the kindness of Indonesian people. And when you go in Provinces they are even more kindly.

Here in Pangandaran, Pantai Hiu, you have a park close, I have been taken in photo 2 times in just 30 minutes, last time I was lost, a guy took me on this motorbike to the right destination.

When I smile to people, everyone smile back in return, included all the girls. If I do that in my country people would think I am retarded.

In fact I need the provinces for the kindness of people, nature, and surfing, but the big problem, they is no so much working girls (except Bali, but it's not the same).

In Jakarta, you have the girls, but you can't stay decently one month fucking girls and do nothing else. And after one week, your body will say no.

I will make a report of my first week in Jakarta later, which was completely crazy since I can now pay with my credit card without any fees, and with your bank account directly link to Emporium, Travel and Classic, there is no more limitations, except maybe your body.

[QUOTE=Joe2422;2997520]If you have time, a lot of time, then watch the spectacle between 4:30 and 5:30 pm In front of the entrance on the street. There, you'll see motorcycles with women on the back arriving every minute, and you'll understand why it makes little sense to go there before 5:30 pm.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I saw them every day, as I usually went there around 4 pm and would see girls still arriving both when I arrived and when I left an hour later. I know a few hours later is better, but I like to have the evening free for non-p4p dates if possible.

However, if 2 pm is just as good / bad as 3/4 pm, I'll be trying 2 pm next time. Perhaps a bit later, as I'm guessing even the girls who are supposed to start working at 2 will be a bit late and then spend time on makeup etc.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2997513]I would hardly consider American Expat and Loveithere69 to be veterans. I'm more of a veteran here than they are. I've been active on ISG since atleast 2021 in the Colombia forums and I was reading ISG for many years before that. I also have met fellow ISG members in person such as SubCmdr who is one of the real veterans of ISG. Also I have contributed more information than LIH and American Expat combined.

Infact I just helped you with your VPN and ATM issues in my previous post.

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

I will be back in Jakarta soon and this time I am going to explore the open air brothel of Bekasi (the one that was mentioned in December by GG and then plagiarized by LIH69 a day later).

I also have a civvie girlfriend (the one I took to the taco bell at the grand Indonesia mall) who will be accompanying me on my side trip to Bandung and helping me to find and fuck Sundanese civvies in Bandung. So be on the lookout for my new reports coming this summer.

It would be nice to get back to reading real reports rather than reading complaints about not knowing how to use a VPN on a laptop.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]That's awesome bro. Any lead like that will help first timer like me.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997592]Oh well you seem to be a digital wizard and are "light-stepping" the complexity of winscreens face-page. For those of us that are over 60.

These ops of connecting a vpn to a laptop are diffiicult. More than that it is frustrating as the error messages read like a doctors signature on your.

Prescription.

Notwithstanding the lack of sympathy you have for my digital hardships and rough first days here in Jakarta; I commend you for being attentiveOn this.

Board and being willing to help out another member.

You critisized me so turnabout is fairplay. I read back into late 2024 when you had firstarrived to lokisari. In fact you reported a chemical smell in the hallways.

At sparks hotel that turned me away from there. I noticed back then that you were asking a ton of questions back then and June fly hooked you up with mamasans / girls contact info in lokasari.

You were at the whim, at the mercy, of these members acceptiny private messages. So that being said, why in the hell don't you accept private messages?. Can you show the love, and share mamasan / girl contact info to me thru a private message? The same love that was shown to you when you were green in lokisari?[/QUOTE]That girl Rizma whom June Fly hooked me up with was a fucking joke. She was probably one of the worst sessions I had the entire two months I spent in Jakarta.

Even I was hanging out with fellow ISG member Pokeris one night at the Red Star Hotel across from Travel sitting at the tables there by the entrance and she came up to us with some cross-eyed dude bothering us.

As far as Sparks Life Hotel that is right the place smelled of chemicals really bad especially on the third floor. The airbnb I found in Pasar Baru was much better in regard to the air quality however I got repeatedly bullied by a certain American Expat for the fact that I chose to stay in a $9 a day airbnb instead of a luxury 5-star hotel. One thing I despise more than anything else on ISG is guys who think they are better than others simply because they have a bigger budget and stay at places like the Marriott. In fact I coined the term 'Marriott Guys' to refer to them.

I have my private messaging turned off for a reason, actually several.

For one, so I won't get distracted because I have alot of other more important things going on in my life besides just mongering and ISG, especially when I am not on a trip, and I get distracted enough as it is. Secondly because I get alot of stupid people asking me stupid questions through PMs that could easily be answered through the search function and a little bit of effort. I do however turn it back on from time to time if there arises a need for it.

Apologies if my lack of sympathy came off as condescending, maybe it's different for me as I mostly grew up with technology. Anyways as I mentioned, there is a VPN called Windscibe that is 100% free (10 gb of traffic per month) and works great in Indonesia (or in any country).

Here's a link to download it:

[URL]https://windscribe.com/download/[/URL]

It's available for android smart phones as well as Windows laptops and Chromebook, I'm not sure if it's available on iOS or not (I don't use an iPhone).

Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.

Hi Bacchuss.

I didn't think it was possible, but the place of your third photo looks even worse than the rooms at KI. I guess you made it to the rail tracks? Was it worth it?

The other day I came to Classic early around 2 pm, and there were only a few below average girls there. I stayed until after 3. 15 pm waiting for someone cute and then gave up.

If anything coming around 4 pm is much better (based on my 2-3 times when I came around 4 pm), as there are usually few cute girls available, but not a lot of customers.

However if you want to go somewhere early, I recommend Travel instead.

I don't normally go to Travel, but I just so happened to be in the area around 1:30 pm the other day and they let me in.

There were already quite a few girls inside, and by 2 pm it was quite a lot of them there (2 full sofas in the main room, and a few scattered girls in the back).

I would say around 30-40 girls in total, with a few cute ones as well.

But there was also no other customers, so beware it will be a mostly empty bar just with you, mama-sans and the girls on the sofas.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2997697]Hi Bacchuss.

I didn't think it was possible, but the place of your third photo looks even worse than the rooms at KI. I guess you made it to the rail tracks? Was it worth it?[/QUOTE]Yea that third picture looks pretty grimey as far as the room. Reminds me of some places I've been in Mexico and Colombia. When I get back I want to go check out the train tracks agsin and this time partake. When I went there last time I didn't see any working girls as we had gotten there too early. I've heard those train track girls are bbfscip for only 200 k rupiah.

Cheers Bacchuss and thanks for the pictures and for properly reacting the identifiable facial features. That is how it should be done!

-Gabacho.

A simple request from a simple first time visitor in 2 weeks time. How the hell do I find addresses for Classic, Emporium, Travel etc?

I have read back pages and pages but cannot see addresses listed? Google search yields vague responses but no idea if this responses returned actually relate to the specific locations?

Help a brother out please?

And one further question - any place operating now that has girl and facility quality of Alexis?

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2997769]A simple request from a simple first time visitor in 2 weeks time. How the hell do I find addresses for Classic, Emporium, Travel etc?

I have read back pages and pages but cannot see addresses listed? Google search yields vague responses but no idea if this responses returned actually relate to the specific locations?[/QUOTE]The same way you would do it everywhere around the world.

Go to Google Maps. Type in the city (Jakarta).

Then type in the business name.

Now you have to use some brains. You have to look at the list, or type in Classic Spa (or Hotel), Emporium Spa, and Travel Spa. It should come up first in the list. You can verify by looking at the reviews, or by looking at Google street view.

I believe the ride share App uses Google Maps. Easy to get there.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2997597]Went there around 4 pm. Only about 20 girls present. I was told it usually fills up between 7 and 8.

I picked the most beautiful one, a stunning 23 yo with great skin, slim body and a giant rack. Definitely a 9 in my book. There is no way you find a girl like that in classic.

I felt like she took good care of me, but she insisted on CBJ. She did everything very slowly which I enjoy a lot. But At the end, we ran out of time. The lights in the room started to flash indicating end of time, while we were still fucking. Managed to come, but didn't like the pressure at the end.

I only had the free welcome drink and paid 1,8 juta.

I feel this price would be very much justified if BBBJ was included, for the quality of the girls and the rooms.

Next time I'll go later in the evening, ask for BBBJ before committing and I'll watch the time.

Actually, for 1,8 juta you can chat up to 30 minutes with the girl in the bar area, then you go straight to the room and you have one shot. For 3,4 juta you have 3 hours including the spa area and 2 shots.

Apparently, there are not many Indonesian clients here. I was told Most are from Singapore and China.[/QUOTE]That was excellent report a template on how to write a report.

It didn't take too much time out of your day, and it didn't take too much time out of mine.

You got there early, probably her first customer. A perfect time, 4 pm for DATY?

Did she cooperate? Was she bitchy about you touching her large rack?

And finally, if you initially talked to her for, say, 20 minutes and then sent her on her way; would you be penalized.

Or frowned on? Wow 1. 8 million, you really should have a verbal gauruntee on DFK.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2997522]Try OkCupid, someone said it worked for them.[/QUOTE]Yeah OkCupid had been real good. Even Tinder (gold) works but you have to start using them atleast 2-3 weeks before. Last min pings are on luck. And I had a hard luck. Good that I pinged 2-3 weeks back and got some hits. But OkC was next level. Lot of cutie. Ended up meeting with 2. It was a year back so I don't have therir details anymore.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997592]For those of us that are over 60.

These ops of connecting a vpn to a laptop are diffiicult.[/QUOTE]I used NordVPN and ExpressVPN. You can Google those 2 words, and the internet sites will come up. Last year, those 2 were highly rated.

Note: those VPNs sometimes work; it varies.

Go to their sites. There will be a link labeled "Download". Click on it. You probably will have to select either Windows or Mac / Apple.

You will get a .exe file. Double click on it. This installs their program.

Then you have to say yes to couple of questions.

Then it will install their program.

You have to give your details and register. Both of them will give a free trial period. But you need to cancel before the trial period, or you will be charged. Note that it will auto-renew.

Then you have to turn it on, and select the country.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997583]It is terrible! Ill take the 42 $ loss and get another sim.[/QUOTE]If you are not tech savvy, and especially if you are older than 60, you should get a physical SIM at the airport. At the airport, they will load the SIM and ensure that it works. Make sure you ask all the relevant questions.

The way I do it is to load an E-SIM. I use Airalo. I get the $69 plan for 1 year, 20 GB, and 138 countries. It should cover all the countries that you need.

Now, there will be problems for you.

First, you need a phone that can use an E-SIM. Then, you need to figure out how to load the E-SIM from Airalo. My Pixel phone has E-SIM (able to load multiple E-SIMs) and a physical slot.

The problem is (that my 80 year old aunt cannot figure out) that you have to be able to switch between the SIMs (if you use other SIMs with that phone).

The easiest way is to use a physical SIM for everything. You should be able to figure out how to change a physical SIM. But there's a problem if you phone doesn't have a physical SIM.

If I'm over there, I can do it for you, just for a coffee and a cheesecake. I prefer a joint, but it is illegal over there.

Well I was told by the dude at lokisari plaza that my phone reception was bad because of the thickness of the walls at My hotel. Hotspot performance as well using my phone along with telltale.

Bar (strength) dipping. Well while getting usa plug adapters at manga dua square (I wanted a usa electrical strip, but adapters are better than nothin) I bought a XL 35 GB sim card.

The difference is night and day. It wasnt the walls of the hotel. It was the sim.

The girl at the airport asked me where I was going, I said eventually batam on a visa run. Fatal mistake.

The official name of this card was telkomsel lite 60 Gb. She claimed this card could be used in batam while other telkomsel sims cannot.

I think she lied to me.

I can go to kelapa gading mall and *****-out a real live telkomsel.

Rep I found out. 2 things about sim cards indo:

1. they don't have unlimited cards.

2. No matter what you do messages and the phone app will not.

Translate to english. That sucks! WTF.

Wanting to hunt down a telkomsel rep speaks to my withdrawals from mary jane flying in from thailand. Green bud did I make the right decision not bringing any?

What will they do to you for an 1/8 ounce?

I should probably not go to 1001 while haviing irritability problems. CBJ for 120 $ would ignite my whick. Tijuana after a trolly ride.

You might be able to get BBBJ for 40 $ and you don't need a leg blood clotting 12 hour journey.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997801]Wanting to hunt down a telkomsel rep speaks to my withdrawals from mary jane flying in from thailand. Green bud did I make the right decision not bringing any?

What will they do to you for an 1/8 ounce?[/QUOTE]You should never travel to any country without first researching the laws.

In Indonesia you can get the death penalty for smuggling drugs, including Marijuana.

According to Wikipedia under the new revised 2023 law, 1/8 ounce would get you 4 years in prison for simple possession but potentially a life sentence and an 8 Billion Rupiah fine for transportation.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Indonesia[/URL]#%3 A%7 E%3 Atext%3 DThe_latest_2023_criminal_code%2 Cplants_including_cannabis_with_death. ?wprov=sfla1.

Always research the laws before you travel to a new country and always respect the laws once you are there.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Astral100;2997718]The other day I came to Classic early around 2 pm, and there were only a few below average girls there. I stayed until after 3. 15 pm waiting for someone cute and then gave up.

If anything coming around 4 pm is much better (based on my 2-3 times when I came around 4 pm), as there are usually few cute girls available, but not a lot of customers.

However if you want to go somewhere early, I recommend Travel instead.

I don't normally go to Travel, but I just so happened to be in the area around 1:30 pm the other day and they let me in.

There were already quite a few girls inside, and by 2 pm it was quite a lot of them there (2 full sofas in the main room, and a few scattered girls in the back).

I would say around 30-40 girls in total, with a few cute ones as well.

But there was also no other customers, so beware it will be a mostly empty bar just with you, mama-sans and the girls on the sofas.[/QUOTE]Only me and 40 other girls. Sounds great.

I'm rather turned off by all the reports regarding covered BJs at Travel, but I'm intent on visiting Travel at least once on my next trip to see for myself.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997801]Green bud did I make the right decision not bringing any?

What will they do to you for an 1/8 ounce?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't want to find out. It seems the major risk would be potential drug dogs at the airport.

Weed seems to be totally illegal in Indonesia.

I love weed, but I wouldn't risk jail time.

But all experienced stoners know this. At home, we can't stop, due to the availability. But if it's not available (like when we travel to a strict country), we don't need it.

If anyone does it, remember to always have enough money for a bribe; and pray they accept.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2997801]

Wanting to hunt down a telkomsel rep speaks to my withdrawals from mary jane flying in from thailand. Green bud did I make the right decision not bringing any?

What will they do to you for an 1/8 ounce?
[/QUOTE]Are you serious?

I refrain from going out late at night in Jakarta because I do cannabis regularly in Thailand where I live and I wouldn't pass a road-block test. From what I've heard and read they can put you in jail for years here just for testing positive.

Opera web browser with included vpn took me 10 minutes to install this morning and get on ISG. Out of curiosity I checked out windscribe. I never found a box to enter a web address.

They had confusing links that included: port forwarding, are. O. be. E. are. T. (acronym for something), Scribe Force.

Windscribe is a VPN for those that buy Ferraris, and then get into the computer to fine tune fuel ratios. For members that come to Jakarta and simply want to get on.

ISG or Reddit (reddit was apparently banned in Indonesia to save the children) then Opera is the way to go.

So far the member here that can put out the fire, my fire, is loveithere 69.

Even if I started the fire, which I admit I did.

[QUOTE=XXL;2997984]Are you serious?

I refrain from going out late at night in Jakarta because I do cannabis regularly in Thailand where I live and I wouldn't pass a road-block test. From what I've heard and read they can put you in jail for years here just for testing positive.[/QUOTE]On the surface, it seems like a stupid question. But until you hear DIRECTLY from someone that had an eighth / ounce, how do you know? Maybe with small amounts the possibility of payoff / bribe is greater? I personally saw no dogs at the airport and got a wave thru.

And media reports, the bali girl story, how do you not know that is not a media campaign, to coerce foreigners to, "not bring mary jane into our country".

They are not very diligent at the airport. With thailand gone legal you wonder why they don't have a dog 24/7?

I have a carniverous appetite for weed, and was thinking of shoving some up my butt.

Once in, incense at your door jam burning throughout your accomadation works; I've tried it numerous times.

Ill tell you one thing, being on weed, and 1. 5 million venue with CBJ would allow me to be accept I might have just picked a bad apple.

Having been here for a couple of days, its pretty easy to see what is happening here. The girls at classic are more willing to negotiate in the room because.

They get a substandard cut of the fee.

Emporium, malio, 1001 the girls get some decent? Cut of the pre-paid fee; unless your Richard Gere, you could walk home disappointed.

Behind the curtain in these upper echelon establishments, perhaps the "operating permits" state you practice safe sex here. Why wouldn't you think this?

The indo government has their hands on everything, right?

So a checklist and and a brief interview is neccesitated by this with the inclusive risk that you destroy the mood by doing so.

And maybe the joints that limit pre-room chats purposefully do this to limit the arm-twisting by the client in a checklist chat.

The ideal scenario is you buy a drink for the lady, with the challenge of softening her up with a giggle / joke. Off the sofa girl is intimidating me right now, where.

You would have to tell yourself, "make sure you keep smiling".

A couple streets over from travel right now, I'm kind of hoping I meet some street hookers out front, that would prevent me from entering travel.

I need to elaborate on my previous post where I said the level 3 line-up was better at 2 pm than at 3 pm. This may not be true at all on Saturday. Poor line-up today at 2:30, maybe one third the usual number, and made worse by the presence of quite a few Chinese. The mamasans and the girls were concentrating on the Chinese, who kept taking girls in twos and threes to the room. Some girls were kept - or kept themselves - in the locker-room, emerging only when summoned for the sake of some newly-arrived Chinese. I felt shunned.

I cut my losses and took a cab to kota indah where I had a good session at Sari Ayu. One positive thing about kota indah: any mamasan will call any girl you point at. No mamasans selling each their own and only girls and turning their back at the girls you want.

[QUOTE=XXL;2998069]I need to elaborate on my previous post where I said the level 3 line-up was better at 2 pm than at 3 pm. This may not be true at all on Saturday. Poor line-up today at 2:30, maybe one third the usual number, and made worse by the presence of quite a few Chinese. The mamasans and the girls were concentrating on the Chinese, who kept taking girls in twos and threes to the room. Some girls were kept - or kept themselves - in the locker-room, emerging only when summoned for the sake of some newly-arrived Chinese. I felt shunned.

I cut my losses and took a cab to kota indah where I had a good session at Sari Ayu. One positive thing about kota indah: any mamasan will call any girl you point at. No mamasans selling each their own and only girls and turning their back at the girls you want.[/QUOTE]LOL. That made me curious what the price for three girls is, even though I suspect it might become quite a headache, and brings to mind the expression "herding cats". The price for two girls is a great deal at Classic, but what about three? Can't remember if I've seen that.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2998032]Opera web browser with included vpn took me 10 minutes to install this morning and get on ISG. Out of curiosity I checked out windscribe. I never found a box to enter a web address.

They had confusing links that included: port forwarding, are. O. be. E. are. T. (acronym for something), Scribe Force.

Windscribe is a VPN for those that buy Ferraris, and then get into the computer to fine tune fuel ratios. For members that come to Jakarta and simply want to get on.

ISG or Reddit (reddit was apparently banned in Indonesia to save the children) then Opera is the way to go.

So far the member here that can put out the fire, my fire, is loveithere 69.

Even if I started the fire, which I admit I did.[/QUOTE]What do you mean never found a box to type in?

With windscribe you turn it on and connect. Once you are connected to a proxy server it works in the background. Any and all apps and browsers you open will be going thru the VPN unless if you specifically tell it not to affect certain apps (for example banking apps) by using the tunneling feature in the settings.

It is very simple and easy to use.

And it's quite funny that you think LIH69 is smart, I guess two peas of the same pod LOL.

By that same logic, you should go ahead and bring some weed with you into Indonesia and then report back to us how it went LOL.

You are so much smarter than the rest of us here, I imagine you must have scored a 120 on the LSAT?

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2998091]What do you mean never found a box to type in?

With windscribe you turn it on and connect. Once you are connected to a proxy server it works in the background. Any and all apps and browsers you open will be going thru the VPN unless if you specifically tell it not to affect certain apps (for example banking apps) by using the tunneling feature in the settings.

It is very simple and easy to use.

And it's quite funny that you think LIH69 is smart, I guess two peas of the same pod LOL.


By that same logic, you should go ahead and bring some weed with you into Indonesia and then report back to us how it went LOL.

You are so much smarter than the rest of us here, I imagine you must have scored a 120 on the LSAT?

Gabacho.[/QUOTE]So this morning I hear what sounds like 50 lawnmower engines.

At the base of hotel. Shortly thereafter smoke fills the hotel. I have no clue what is going on. ?

NO FUCKING WAY! SMOKE IMPREGNATED WITH PESTICIDE!

A truck tries to slip in 730 am and hoodwinks occupants, by laying his mosquito smoke exhaust pipe at base of hotel filling hotel with pesticide smoke bomb.

I AM FUCKING GOING DELERIOUS NOW WITH.

ANGER!

Immediately, the human mind asks, "it kills mosquitos.

Its not good for you".

Why did I hone in on gabachos report "chemical smell in sparks hotel"?

I was exposed to a petroleum chemical on a tanker.

Off South Korea 5 years ago, and suffered bone marrow damage.

And the subsequent abnormal CBC's.

Too have this done to me after solving the vpn problem is.

Devestating for me.

HOW FUCKING WRECKLESS AND STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2998091]What do you mean never found a box to type in?

With windscribe you turn it on and connect. Once you are connected to a proxy server it works in the background. Any and all apps and browsers you open will be going thru the VPN unless if you specifically tell it not to affect certain apps (for example banking apps) by using the tunneling feature in the settings.

It is very simple and easy to use.

And it's quite funny that you think LIH69 is smart, I guess two peas of the same pod LOL.

By that same logic, you should go ahead and bring some weed with you into Indonesia and then report back to us how it went LOL.

You are so much smarter than the rest of us here, I imagine you must have scored a 120 on the LSAT?
E
G Gabacho.[/QUOTE]This site is easy to navigate with a smartphone? Really? Constantly zooming / enlargening? I don't see it.

Ro Any time you have to tilt your smartphone lengthwise to fit in more text, that is a telltale that you would be better served on your laptop.

All I have to say regarding windscribe is it was approaching 30 minutes, and I wasnt gettin.

Anywhere there was no 3-dot or 3-line drop down menus that might have been the conduit to entering.

Awebsite and connecting.

I have bigger problems right now with a pesticide headache, 80 pounds of luggage trapped in that hotel, and my anger at a level that could land me in jail if I act foolishly.

Unfortunately hotel staff you are communicating / dealing / preaching to the lowest common denominator.

Google translator messages:

1. do you know your mosquito smoke bomb you released two hours ago holds particles of pesticide?

2. Do you know what the headache you are now suffering with is from?

3. Do you know that your life will be cut several years / possibly many more, from working here when they release the pesticide.

Bomb?

4. do you know you are endangering my life as well?

5 do you understand that a mosquito bite is basically harmless?

THESE FUCKING IDIOTS RUINED MY DAY, MY WEEK.

LESSON: When you arrive hotel you tell staff if they spray mosquito.

Spray near your room and / or bomb.

Hotel, not only will you be pissed off, you will destroy them on Agoda and you will leave. Fucking idiots! I'm having another bad day.

[QUOTE=WhoCaresReally;2996952]Happened with me earlier. I figured out the reason being shadow blocked by Tinder. Everything remain as is except that you cannot be discovered and your likes doesn't reach the girls. Could happen if someone reported you or you keep virtually changing locations often. Cannot do much except to create a new account.[/QUOTE]Really obscure post. "shadow blocked"? Is that a tinder phrase that tinder employees are familiar with? Or you made that up? Because that seems to be happening to me.

I've had email run-ins with tinder when I was prepping for Jakarta in thailand. I look remotely like richard Gere, salt and' peppa hair. So with no matches tinder, in Jakarta, there is a problem!

Something is going on here. Did I dis-joint the noses of tinder staff?

How do I fix it with gold membership? How do I create new profile, new beginning, while bringing the paid gold membership with it?

Contacting tinder on the internet is like contacting any other "call center".

Pissed off, like always, so far that a service I paid for has yielded zero results.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2998091]What do you mean never found a box to type in?

With windscribe you turn it on and connect. Once you are connected to a proxy server it works in the background. Any and all apps and browsers you open will be going thru the VPN unless if you specifically tell it not to affect certain apps (for example banking apps) by using the tunneling feature in the settings.

It is very simple and easy to use.

And it's quite funny that you think LIH69 is smart, I guess two peas of the same pod LOL.

By that same logic, you should go ahead and bring some weed with you into Indonesia and then report back to us how it went LOL..[/QUOTE]Peace dude, arguing about trivial matters. Opera VPN was plug-and'-play, under 10 minutes. The fact that Windscribe has tunneling hurts your case, in regards to simplicity. Like I said about Ferraris.

I'll be the first to admit I'm an idiot, been hit on the head a number of times.

Another day of weed sobriety, as the mosquito pesticide-laden smoke clears from hotel (still extremely pissed off at the sneaky 730 am release) if god leaves me the fuck alone I might start to like.

Jakarta.

Who in the fuck releases a pesticide smoke bomb in hotel while you are in it?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2998045]
I have a carniverous appetite for weed, and was thinking of shoving some up my butt.
[/QUOTE]A vape would be the most inconspicuous option but still carries a gigantic risk nonetheless.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2998045]On the surface, it seems like a stupid question. But until you hear DIRECTLY from someone that had an eighth / ounce, how do you know? Maybe with small amounts the possibility of payoff / bribe is greater? I personally saw no dogs at the airport and got a wave thru.

And media reports, the bali girl story, how do you not know that is not a media campaign, to coerce foreigners to, "not bring mary jane into our country".

They are not very diligent at the airport. With thailand gone legal you wonder why they don't have a dog 24/7?

I have a carniverous appetite for weed, and was thinking of shoving some up my butt.

Once in, incense at your door jam burning throughout your accomadation works; I've tried it numerous times.

Ill tell you one thing, being on weed, and 1. 5 million venue with CBJ would allow me to be accept I might have just picked a bad apple.[/QUOTE]You're so right. All those pussies, worried about smuggling some small amount of weed for personal use! Indon customs and police aren't so bad. They know you need your hit and desperately want your sex tourist dollars. How else would the entire Jakarta red light scene even survive without you and other stoner bros? I say do it. Bring in your eighth or why not bring in a a few hundred grams so you can share with your brothers as well? And if caught just tell them you are here to tap that nice 18 yo indo pussy that feels so much better when you are high. Being men I am sure they will give you a knowing wink and a high five and send you on your way. I really look forward to reading your ongoing reports on this really important matter.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2998231] And if caught just tell them you are here to tap that nice 18 yo indo pussy that feels so much better when you are high. Being men I am sure they will give you a knowing wink and a high five and send you on your way. I really look forward to reading your ongoing reports on this really important matter.[/QUOTE]Might be looking forward for a long time me thinks, unless Indonesia jails have better VPN support staff available than ISG.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2996960]Friends, Emporium, sagitarious / fortune are the ones I have been visiting, but it's becoming monotonous now.

Any place especially in Central / South with good options (no classic / travel please). Any international cuisine would be appreciated as well.

As for my latest experience. Went to Delta. I had been going to only 2 therapists there everytime to make them open up to me and explore more than HJ, and I think I was becoming successful, but as per latest, both of them have left. So took a new therapist. Massage was really good with enough teasing around balls etc, followed by a standard HJ. Because this was first time with this girl, she didn't allow touching or even kissing. Anyone had more than HJ at this place?[/QUOTE]Ok. After this report I got nothing but bombarded with requests for feedback on places I had visited. I think I've responded to most of you, hoping you will share your contacts. Went to Delta PI branch to try something new. Got a gorgeous babe for massage. Miss E or something. Room was the one with a Turkish bath like set up. There is a bed on which you lie down and then there are 5-6 shower heads with high pressure to clean your body. Massage was amazing but strictly professional, unlike the other branches which includes a lot of teasing. Got to HJ at the end, and here is where the disappointment began. She wouldn't let me touch, even outside the clothes, not even on face, nor even kiss your body / face. On asking if I could see her boobs, she quoted 1 juta and wouldn't budge. All this, coupled with her poor HJ technique, I couldn't cum. Soon the time was almost up and went to the bed for shower. She just turned on the shower and didn't even bother to clean you up like they do in other branches. Left our disappointed. No tip for the first time in all my expeditions in Indonesia. This was like 1. 5 juta so even hurt the wallet a lot.

Quest for some good place / lady continues.

On the heels of a struggle as to who is the rightful originator of the locale, that does or does not include plagiarism, I submit this in is what is planned as.

A series. Because I am leery of the software on this site; constantly having to sign in, and fearing lost work. This will be released in spurts. The plagiarism involves.

A lokalisasi (*****house) in Cibitung by the name I believe of TENDA BIRU. Its former name seems to be Malvinas. This name changed it seems during raids and or demolition.

Becasuse it is never gaurunteed that a Lokalisasi is still standing (the structures or buildings) in Indonesia due to demolition / bulldozers, it is a crapshoot that your.

Bekasi expedition would include memorable nights at Tenda Biru.

It is therefore fruitful to have backup plans. When these lokalisasis get bulldozed working girls often take to the streets, river banks, under bridges, train tracks I suppose.

This is a report on locations in the Bekasi area. I stuck out a carrot of having Bekasi information and I don't bait and switch, I deliver. THESE AREAS, JALANS HAVE NOT BEEN.

GOOGLE MAPPED BY ME, THAT IS LABORIUS. Of course I would do that if I was an expeditioner to Bekasi.

In no certain order:

- Bekasi, PSK CSW (Streethookers) "are becoming more and more rampant on the cipendawa bridge towards pasar rebo, Jatiasih. In this area there are numerous cafes, billiards, karaoke.

- Street Hookers main road from Tambun to Cikarang.

- The "pedestrian area" of jalan kalimalang (kalimalang. Along a river I believe).

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2997725]Yea that third picture looks pretty grimey as far as the room. Reminds me of some places I've been in Mexico and Colombia. When I get back I want to go check out the train tracks agsin and this time partake. When I went there last time I didn't see any working girls as we had gotten there too early. I've heard those train track girls are bbfscip for only 200 k rupiah.

Cheers Bacchuss and thanks for the pictures and for properly reacting the identifiable facial features. That is how it should be done!

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Yes the third photo is a train tracks room, with her train tracks girl. 200 k for 1/2 H start operating at 9 pm, before place is completely empty. With Gojek put "Ketoprak Mba Nur", there are least 2 entrance for this place, one in front of the bridge, one behind the bridge, the 2 with ladders.

The problem is not the dirty of the rooms, but the heat, fan is useless (yes there is a fan), and when you start fucking the heat become almost intolerable.

For the girls, I don't know what think about it. Train tracks or Lokasari girls, if you like young, go it. But it will be hard to find a jewel here. Girls start to get fuck by their local boyfriend at fourteen, have a baby at 15, and get a complete destroyed body at 16. So, at 18 ... But it still possible to find narrow pussy here, difficult, but possible.

Beside, I propose all the train tracks girls to meet somewhere else, just have a diner or a drink, or sex, or whatever, all refused. Maybe they don't like me (but I least for one, I think not) or maybe we have a real mafia here, who really control the girls, I don't know.

- Jalan Kalimalang: from the Tambun border following the Cibitung highway to the national Road. (Kalimalang-Pantura) apparently streethookers.

- areas of nightlife / venues. Kalimalang, cibitung, tegal danas, or lemah Abang, Lippo Cikarang.

-prostitution disguised as karaoke in Kranggan, Jatisampurna area.

-Lokalisasis (*****houses) that are or are not still standing in this Bekasi area: Tanah Merah, Tegal Danas, Pasir Sedot, Pasir Kunci, Pasar Seng, Tenda Biru (plagiarism controversy; NOTE* It sais this location is next to Bekasi Regency Hospital), pulo nyamuk (those damn mosquito repellants), kedaung. Even if some of these locales were gone over with a bulldozer, ill make a bet you'd find action here.

-street hookers from bulak kapal road to tambun.

-road from cibitung to Cikarang.

CONTINUED.

Allright ill give you some excerpts from a July 12 2024 report; Head of South Cikarang Sub-District, Muhammad Said admitted that the prostitution business.

On Jalan Inspeksi Kalimalang, Pasirsari Village, South Cikarang is difficult to control. According to him, the local goverrnments' efforts to disband the prostitution area.

On the Perum Jasa Tirta (PJT) land are considered to have not had a significant impact. (Yea dumbass you destroyed with a sledgehammer the lokalisasis in your district, now they are.

The hookers are running amok on your streets. With your tail between your legs release the increasing rape reports).

-Another lokalisasi "Ciseeng" Cikarang.

-Pantura Road. East Cikarang "stubborn prostition exists".

_Bekasi street hookers along the malang river. Which makes me think jalan kalimalang is a street along the malang river.

-another lokalisasi; kampung kramat Cikarang kota village, North Cikarang.

-jalan inspeksi tegal gede Road.

CONTINUED.

- Cikarang Jalan Tanah Merah (there is actually a 1 minute 20 second you tube video of this Road. Acknowledging it as a sex road).

-road from Cikarang to Kedungwaringin.

- what must be the indo "stroll" on inspeksi kalimalang Road. Starting from tegal gede towards tegal Danas until you hit the Karawang border.

-OK. Kali Cikarang Bekasi Laut (acronymed CBL). Kedaung, Cibitung (ok this admittedly has to be plugged into google maps before it all makes sense) Once again apparently street hookers.

- "The Bekasi City Government admits that it is having difficulty controlling these places. The reason is that the number of Commercial Sex Workers (CSWS) who have been controlled.

And accepted in Social Institutions is limited" I knew it! They did not have enough money to take care of the girls!

Some locations where prostitution is mushrooming include the Bekasi GOR, terminal, Rawasemut (Margahayu), Kranji, Jatisampurna, and Pangkalan Lima (Bantar Gebang) Some of these.

Places are only used as hangouts for prostitutes such as the terminal, Rawasemut, and the Bekasi GOR. Meanwhile in the kranji area, most of the hidden prostitution places use herbal.

Medicine stalls. In the Pangkalan Lima area, the location uses dimly lit stalls scattered along Naragong street.

All right well that concludes part one Bekasi. To those that scoff at this report and say it is a report of the stragglers, the forgotten, the rural working girl well you know, "it only takes one".

Some of us would climb ladders, some of us don't like to climb ladders, Ill leave it that.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;2998460]Yes the third photo is a train tracks room, with her train tracks girl. 200 k for 1/2 H start operating at 9 pm, before place is completely empty. With Gojek put "Ketoprak Mba Nur", there are least 2 entrance for this place, one in front of the bridge, one behind the bridge, the 2 with ladders.

The problem is not the dirty of the rooms, but the heat, fan is useless (yes there is a fan), and when you start fucking the heat become almost intolerable.

For the girls, I don't know what think about it. Train tracks or Lokasari girls, if you like young, go it. But it will be hard to find a jewel here. Girls start to get fuck by their local boyfriend at fourteen, have a baby at 15, and get a complete destroyed body at 16. So, at 18 ... But it still possible to find narrow pussy here, difficult, but possible.

Beside, I propose all the train tracks girls to meet somewhere else, just have a diner or a drink, or sex, or whatever, all refused. Maybe they don't like me (but I least for one, I think not) or maybe we have a real mafia here, who really control the girls, I don't know.[/QUOTE]Yea 9 pm to 10 pm is what we were told too. Unfortunately we were there around 6 pm but I'm sure it was the right place. There were 2 ladders one to go down and then one that goes back up on the other side where the hole in the wall is.

Anyways how many train track girls did you fuck?

How was the service of the girl?

200 k is a deal.

Would you repeat again or was it just to experience it?

Gabacho.

Hello, about 1 month away from visiting Jakarta again after 6 years hiatus. I RTF, but way too much to locate answers.

If anyone could confirm or correct these prices, that would be great. TIA!

I don't care about 3 somes anymore, I know it's cheaper but I too old to blast 2 in 90 minutes. Let know being able to pump the blood down there.

Classic: 465 k.

Min Tip: 50 k is good now? Before 2020, it used to be 100 k and agreed upon by many Seniors on here.

Travel - 485 k.

Min Tip: ?

Entry fee is not waived for taking a girl now?

I may try these 2, not sure, I've always stuck with Classic / Travel in the past.

Star Moon.

Sari Ayu.

Both starts at 400 k, correct?

Min Tip:?

[QUOTE=GCNovice;2998561]Hello, about 1 month away from visiting Jakarta again after 6 years hiatus. I RTF, but way too much to locate answers.

If anyone could confirm or correct these prices, that would be great. TIA!

I don't care about 3 somes anymore, I know it's cheaper but I too old to blast 2 in 90 minutes. Let know being able to pump the blood down there.

Classic: 465 k.

Min Tip: 50 k is good now? Before 2020, it used to be 100 k and agreed upon by many Seniors on here.

Travel - 485 k.

Min Tip: ?

Entry fee is not waived for taking a girl now?

I may try these 2, not sure, I've always stuck with Classic / Travel in the past.

Star Moon.

Sari Ayu.

Both starts at 400 k, correct?

Min Tip:?[/QUOTE]Classic is 365 k plus a 5 k entrance fee for both T2 and T5.

There is no minimum tip required.

Starmoon was 350 k when I went but it may depend on what time it is.

Sari Ayu is 400 k.

Tips are never obligatory in any of these establishments; it is entirely voluntary whether or not you leave a tip. All you are doing be leaving a tip when there is no extra service provided is promoting bad behavior because the girls will come to expect a tip for doing nothing and then give bad service when they think they aren't going to get a tip. Why on earth would you want to promote that?

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=GCNovice;2998561]Hello, about 1 month away from visiting Jakarta again after 6 years hiatus. I RTF, but way too much to locate answers.

If anyone could confirm or correct these prices, that would be great. TIA!

I don't care about 3 somes anymore, I know it's cheaper but I too old to blast 2 in 90 minutes. Let know being able to pump the blood down there.

Classic: 465 k.

Min Tip: 50 k is good now? Before 2020, it used to be 100 k and agreed upon by many Seniors on here.?[/QUOTE]Last Oct (6 months ago) Classic was 365 k for an hour. What's with this "minimum tip"? If the girl has attitude or gives crap service, she gets no f at at king tip.

Otherwise, I tip a 100 k. I've walked out on girls after 30 minutes if they are duds.

I saw Jenny and Leasha were on tour in Jakarta from Bali, what an amazing threesome and a great lay both BBBJ and bisex with BB a bit pricey 3. 5 mil but work it for 2 hrs.

[QUOTE=GCNovice;2998561]Hello, about 1 month away from visiting Jakarta again after 6 years hiatus. I RTF, but way too much to locate answers.

If anyone could confirm or correct these prices, that would be great. TIA!

I don't care about 3 somes anymore, I know it's cheaper but I too old to blast 2 in 90 minutes. Let know being able to pump the blood down there.

Classic: 465 k.

Min Tip: 50 k is good now? Before 2020, it used to be 100 k and agreed upon by many Seniors on here.

Travel - 485 k.

Min Tip: ?

Entry fee is not waived for taking a girl now?

I may try these 2, not sure, I've always stuck with Classic / Travel in the past.

Star Moon.

Sari Ayu.

Both starts at 400 k, correct?

Min Tip:?[/QUOTE]No such thing as minimum tip.

Tip what you want. I had issue's before and just walked out without leaving tip.

This stretch of road going thru north and south kebayoran apparently used to be ++massage central.

Now everything is closed? G2 spa, Grand Velvet Spa, NYX Spa.

The only venues open here seem to be two Mister Braids and New Vins?

The fact no one has mentioned these lately on this thread means what?

That they could be going off?

Or they are deader than a door nail?

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;2998661]Yessss 200 k is a deal!! Saturday night I went here at 1 am and it was yet full of people, they told me it closed at 4 am.

I fuck 5 lokasari girls and I won't do it again with any of them. They lack too much of sweetness.

The first train track girl, she told me she is 18 yo, tigh pussy, sex was good, she loves that, she wants a second session, which I can't provide, too hot in the "room". I will repeat with her, yes!!

I fuck a second one who is passable, loose pussy.

And the third, a sweet little thing, I just look her naked like the big old pervert I am. I will come back to give her my old smartphone, none of the 3 train tracks girls have cellphone.

However, I prefer, and I recommend you, Classic and Travel girls.

For the tip, is up to you, if you want to give something, don't give less than 50k, 100k for good service. For bare sex they all ask 300 k now, which is a little bit expensive except if you want a baby or a STI.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your detailed report.

Sounds like the train tracks is definitely worth checking out.

I don't even like weed and I think most of the guys here know better than to mess with that stuff In a country like Indonesia where it is illegal.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=harryreams;2998609]I saw Jenny and Leasha were on tour in Jakarta from Bali, what an amazing threesome and a great lay both BBBJ and bisex with BB a bit pricey 3. 5 mil but work it for 2 hrs.[/QUOTE]Where can I find them, can you share the contacts, reaching Jakarta next week.

First trip to Jakarta, just have some questions about certain things that weren't really discussed here. I've read many pages here (up to 50, even looked at Zippo's stuff on page 105) and even went on singlemanfrm as well to gather a lot of information, so I've RTFF. I'm in my very early 30's, workout, don't smoke or dip, and my mom says I'm handsome LOL. Only have one tattoo that can only be seen if I take off my clothes, no piercings whatsoever. Excuse the long post and questions.

Freelancers-.

Aware of CJs and BATS. What's the talent in Eastern Promise, Liquid Exchange, and Loewy Bar? Should I expect the same quality of older women and price points as CJs / BATS?

Apps-.

Aware of Tinder / Bumble. But was curious on OkCupid, Tantan, Badoo, DIA, and X (formerly twitter). I know its FL and short time fun, but what is the usual MO? Can I just ask right away "are you only looking for fun?" or "are you a freelancer? I know not to send any money or DP, as it's a scam and do a video call beforehand. I'm going to take a wild guess and say there are also some reg civvies on there that just want to hook up with a foreigner.

X has several keywords and hashtags to search for girls offering services, but hard to translate and find out what's being offered. I've seen the term COD and BO, does this mean outcall / incall? I know each country has different slang and certain terms for things, which google cannot translate properly. I tried looking in the Kuskas forum website to maybe help and cross reference terms to know the meaning, but couldn't find the FR pages (maybe I need to create an account). Was hoping someone could post the terms that aren't normally used in other countries and aren't easily decipherable. Understand the price is 800 k and above, usually. Is there a TG channel where FL, semi-pros, part-time girls make posts about being available and scheduling?

Online-.

MR, Seeking, Sugarbook. Guessing most of these girls want an experience, but do I need to take them to some high end place for a meal. I read some guys just went for coffee then straight to the room. I know got to filter thru the pros and sharks. Expecting 1 m at a minimum.

Clubs / bars-.

Where is the best nightlife usually located and what are the best days to go? PIK2, Senopati bars? As I like to go out partying most nights I'm traveling. Which of these bars do girls that like foreigners tend to go to? Not sure how the ONS culture is out here. Always try to pick up some civvies to keep me sharp, thrill of the hunt. Are girls usually alone or in groups? Do I need couch or vip section with a bottle? Whats the best way to approach women and not seem like a creep or horny foreigner? I understand the girl also needs to "save face" even if she wants to go with me. Don't want to commit any social faux paus.

RLD-.

Citibung station and Royale. Saw the video of the Japanese guy walking thru these. Has anyone ever tried the karaoke looking in Royale, was wondering how those usually work and cost.

Brothels-.

Obviously Classic, Travel, 1001, Malio, Kotah Inda, etc. A lot written on here about how to tell if a girl is not interested or it's going to be a bad session (I. E. Avoiding eye contact, looking at their phones, awkward silence, yell 'bule' LOL). But what are some good indicators that it's going to be a good session. Each country I've been too, I know women will always be women, but the different cultures changes how girls can be approached or how they perceive things (I. E. Abc is bad in country X, but abc works great in country Y). What are some things you can say to be playful or warm them up to make the session better.

Misc. -.

Some guys have mentioned anal here, not sure if its easily available or how to ask, guessing the older ladies at CJ / BATS would be easier for this. Someone wrote about a shot scam, google showed some tourist had something happen with his camera but wasn't too clear, can anyone shine more light on this? Threesomes don't sound too great here, as girls aren't very interactive and aren't bicurious / sexual. What cell phone service provider is best for a physical SIM card? Want to get the one with best coverage. What are the best ATMs to get money? I'm going with my Fidelity and Schwab accounts, but still don't want my cards to be swallowed by the machines. Is it best to just go to a bank and have the teller directly give me my money?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2998744]Thank you for your detailed report.

Sounds like the train tracks is definitely worth checking out.

I don't even like weed and I think most of the guys here know better than to mess with that stuff In a country like Indonesia where it is illegal.

Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen stick to Travel and Classic. The train tracks are extremely dangerous for numerous reasons. I always go BB so that is not what I am talking about. Even Kota Indah is not safe right now, I got robbed by 10 guys one night. While Kota Indah you may only have to worry about losing your phone, credit cards and your money. The train tracks might take your freedom.

Monger Safely,

MM.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2998875]Gentlemen stick to Travel and Classic. The train tracks are extremely dangerous for numerous reasons. I always go BB so that is not what I am talking about. Even Kota Indah is not safe right now, I got robbed by 10 guys one night. While Kota Indah you may only have to worry about losing your phone, credit cards and your money. The train tracks might take your freedom.

Monger Safely,

MM.[/QUOTE]Wow dude Jakarta allready light on options, and you are saying you were robbed at KI. This is a obscure report, superficial. Almost like an announcement. Are you embarrased about it? Seems like you.

Don't wanta talk about it.

No mention of a time you were there? Allright ill leave you alone; sounds like a fake report.

Because if it was real, happened to me, ID wanta talk about it. Because ID allow members to decide if they wanta start puttin money in their socks.

Take away ones freedom by going to the tracks? Or do you mean their life? When your packin' for the tracks I think you are already puttin your money in your socks.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2998875]Gentlemen stick to Travel and Classic. The train tracks are extremely dangerous for numerous reasons. I always go BB so that is not what I am talking about. Even Kota Indah is not safe right now, I got robbed by 10 guys one night. While Kota Indah you may only have to worry about losing your phone, credit cards and your money. The train tracks might take your freedom.

Monger Safely,

MM.[/QUOTE]Aren't you the same guy who was complaining about the food at Mpok Judes and telling people not to go eat there?

Now you are telling people not to go to the train tracks or even to Kota Indah?

As long as no one is doing anything illegal then why would they be at risk of losing their liberty? As far as street thugs go, Jakarta is one of the safer cities I have been to. When walking about on the streets of Jakarta Pusat I never had any problems. Maybe you should try strolling around Santa Fe in Bogota Colombia and then report back on the comparison.

Also would you care to elaborate on how in the hell you get robbed by 10 "street thugs" in Kota Indah Compleks?

Were you wearing a fancy gold chain, Rolex watch and a pinky ring? I'm just curious to know because there have been countless reports from Kota Indah bars posted here on ISG and not a single one of them has ever mentioned being robbed.

In fact compared to other mongering destinations in southeast Asia such as Thailand and Philippines, Indonesia has much lower crime statistics.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2998875]Gentlemen stick to Travel and Classic. The train tracks are extremely dangerous for numerous reasons. I always go BB so that is not what I am talking about. Even Kota Indah is not safe right now, I got robbed by 10 guys one night. While Kota Indah you may only have to worry about losing your phone, credit cards and your money. The train tracks might take your freedom.

Monger Safely,

MM.[/QUOTE]Can you share more on the mugging? I've never felt unsafe in most parts of Jakarta, even at night.

I will ask again. Any intel on top end establishments that fill the void left by closure of Alexis Hotel?

Will be in Jakarta for first time ever next week and have had plenty of the lower level experiences in Batam / Bali but I really would like top tier establishments if any exist? TIA.

I know I am risking my health and my life every day in Jakarta. But it's not because of the risk of being mugged. It's because the traffic is so horrible here that I started to go everywhere by gojek motorbike.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2999078]I know I am risking my health and my life every day in Jakarta. But it's not because of the risk of being mugged. It's because the traffic is so horrible here that I started to go everywhere by gojek motorbike.[/QUOTE]The things we do for cheaper pussy. At least wear a helmet, and perhaps get one of those thin headcaps you can use between your pristine hair and the dirty helmet.

[QUOTE=Sriraj91;2998839]Where can I find them, can you share the contacts, reaching Jakarta next week.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I can post here without breaking rules. But if you google with key word Bali and either names and other key words it will usually take you to their add. One word of caution, you can get a highly discounted rate if you choose to be filmed for their webpage, obviously not for everyone otherwise enjoy the amazing sex from these really nice girls. Hopefully they are still in Jakarta as it was a visit from Bali.

Yea the percentage of replies back from private messages is 30 percent here. It might even be lower. It is a microcosm, of a "I don't wanta be bothered" world. I get it.

But because of common interests, mongering, the friendships cultivated on this board could be special.

I qualify friends as someone who has returned my private message. I'm not above criticising PM friends. I went to Mari Enjoy club last night two or three streets north.

Of old Stadium. There were plywood sheets on the floor. The only equipment missing was a bulldozer. I went here because of juneflys glowing report of here.

Its not my job to clean up shit on this board. I think or it is said that LIH69 discovered it. If you reported on it, and it is practical to do so, then report about it when it closes.

These alleys, all alleys in jnakarta, are hot. I wasted my time, my sweat checking this place out.

Two weeks ago I thought the dearth of venues in Jakarta, discussed on this thread was due to members hoarding information. Now I am starting to think that the government.

Is closing down all venues that that offer a respite from the heat, all venues that have female-male interaction.

This place was down a non-descript alley. THERE IS NO WAY THIS PLACE CLOSED DOWN BECAUSE OF LACK OF BUSINESS! They closed because noone in the govt. Cabinet had their hands in its".

Cookie jar.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2999125]The things we do for cheaper pussy. At least wear a helmet, and perhaps get one of those thin headcaps you can use between your pristine hair and the dirty helmet.[/QUOTE]I guess there is two motobike apps, Jakarta. Gojek and grab. So far every grab ride I have had the driver has had an extra helmet. Anyone wanto report on gojek drivers and if they.

Carry an extra helmet? The one time you are without a helmet could be your downfall.

I am a white- boy. I've never been offended by the term white-washed. When a person is white-washed it usually means, they are americanized, they have taken on western culture.

And ideals.

Asian-washed is also a word. It is what happens when the girl-mob on soi 6 pattaya surrounds a asian visitor and leaves you touchless.

Well V-FOUR club Kota Indah has that going on. Asian-Washed. The girls gave me no attention the other night, and I resemble Richard Gere.

It is also annoying that they only have 24 ounce or are they 32 ounce bintang beers. Noone, bule, has reported on getting sick from ice cubes (some of these places have warm beer).

Do you think these places make ice cubes from bottled water?

I will give V-Four another opportunity though. Why? Because another phenomena could be going on. The girls there do not want the other asians to see her with bule. This is.

Entirely possible.

These clubs, Kotas Indah, it seems allow you to buy a beer for the girl, and spend a lot of time with her. I am struggling with the cutoff time, that time where you would.

Be required to pay the go-upstairs fee, for sitting drinking with her? It could be close to 45 minutes?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2999301]I guess there is two motobike apps, Jakarta. Gojek and grab. So far every grab ride I have had the driver has had an extra helmet. Anyone wanto report on gojek drivers and if they.

Carry an extra helmet? The one time you are without a helmet could be your downfall.[/QUOTE]I've used Gojek Grab and the random guy on the bike I would go up to as say "pasar baru dua puluh ribu" I think the last category is just referred to as "ojek. ".

I never wear a helmet just like I never wear a condom. In fact I learned how to say "tidak mau" so when the driver would offer me a helmet I could politely say I didn't want it.

I live how the wind feels hitting my bald shaved head. It's amazing. You only live once so why not just enjoy life and not worry about stupid things like helmets and condoms.

You guys can do you and I will do me.

-Gabacho.

As I mentioned before, of the 365 k IDR, 20 k goes to the mamasan, 100 k goes to the girl. Of the 500 k IDR, 40 k goes to the mamasan, 90 k goes to each girl.

One of the girls I talked with said she did 9-10 a night. I suspect that's on the high end, but I did see one girl I know going downstairs with us as I started a session and after we ended our session and headed upstairs, I saw that same girl coming in again with a different guy. I think most of them aren't pulling those kinds of numbers but the outgoing, popular ones might be.

Some of the girls start early at right when it opens. Others come in over the next few hours. They potentially work 10+ hour shifts and that's why so many of them are sleeping on the couches as the night winds down.

This info is just from talking and asking, so take it with a grain of salt.

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It really helps clickable Link.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2991154]This is plantsmoke. I wanted to provide an example of a report (indonesian media) that I have acquired:

Even during the fasting month, prostitution activities on jalan Inspeksi Kali Sekretaris, grogol Petamburan, West Jakarta, are rampant.

Apart from these locations, PSKs were also seen hanging out on Jalan Daan Mogot, on the side of the road from grogol towards Kalideres.

,precisely next to the Padang restaurant, near the Top 1 discoteque.

MORE.

A number of "pockets" where commercial sex workers (csws) transit and transact in several corners of the city of Jakarta, are currently increasingly visited by sex-hungry.

Men. Ironically there haver been no significant actions to control them from Satpol PP (civil service police unit) officers or the Social service Sub-dept. Based on a brief.

Observation, the locations of "csws" . Pulogadung Industrial area (PT JIEP), The Gunung Antang Railway tracks on Jl. Mataram Raya, along the road in front of Cipinang Prison and.

Along the Cipinang Railway tracks. In the Pulogadung Industrial Area, tents and warem (dimly lit stalls) have been set up since the afternoon. "The sound of music like in a bar, can be heard clearly.

By motorcyclists and cars passing by because the warem is located on the side of the road to the Rawakepiting Chicken Slaughterhouse (TPA).

NOTE**These girls might try to blend in / conceal with the durian sellers / vendors.

In conclusion this new thread will feature locations and no story telling. You will be spared the novelist / storytelling that is painful as fuck on this site! Also I request no comments.

"Well he hasnt even done the research" . I AM TELLING YOU AHEAD OF TIME THESE ARFE RAW REPORTS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WEBSITE I AM CONSTANTLY HAVING TO LOG IN, AND IF I TAKE ON THIS ENDEAVOR AND AM CRAFTING A REPORT AND IT TIMES OUT (WHICH IS OUTRAGEOUS WEBSITE SOFTWARE) I WILL IMMEDIASTELY STOP THIS ENDEAVOR OUT OF FRUSTRATION.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=L00PY;2999514]As I mentioned before, of the 365 k IDR, 20 k goes to the mamasan, 100 k goes to the girl. Of the 500 k IDR, 40 k goes to the mamasan, 90 k goes to each girl.

One of the girls I talked with said she did 9-10 a night. I suspect that's on the high end, but I did see one girl I know going downstairs with us as I started a session and after we ended our session and headed upstairs, I saw that same girl coming in again with a different guy. I think most of them aren't pulling those kinds of numbers but the outgoing, popular ones might be.

Some of the girls start early at right when it opens. Others come in over the next few hours. They potentially work 10+ hour shifts and that's why so many of them are sleeping on the couches as the night winds down.

This info is just from talking and asking, so take it with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting, that are useful facts, and matches what I've heard before.

[QUOTE=L00PY;2999514]As I mentioned before, of the 365 k IDR, 20 k goes to the mamasan, 100 k goes to the girl. Of the 500 k IDR, 40 k goes to the mamasan, 90 k goes to each girl.

One of the girls I talked with said she did 9-10 a night. I suspect that's on the high end, but I did see one girl I know going downstairs with us as I started a session and after we ended our session and headed upstairs, I saw that same girl coming in again with a different guy. I think most of them aren't pulling those kinds of numbers but the outgoing, popular ones might be.

Some of the girls start early at right when it opens. Others come in over the next few hours. They potentially work 10+ hour shifts and that's why so many of them are sleeping on the couches as the night winds down.

This info is just from talking and asking, so take it with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]That's actually not true, and it's not everything. This is the information for us. I think everyone knows why the girls work there for so little money. To find out what's really going on, I would ask the question: Why do you work here for so little money and not start somewhere else? The answer might surprise many people by how much money they actually work for there.

Nowadays there are telegram / line / whatsapp groups for nearly all sexpat cities out there. Do we have something similar for Jakarta? A chat group for people actually on site? I have an upcoming trip. Will probably be working remotely from there as well (still deciding for how long in between Jakarta & Phnom Penh) so planning on staying 1-2 months.

And given the scene in Jakarta seems less obvious and transparent than lets say Angeles or Pattaya I would appreciate some back and forth with people on the ground and organize meetups as well.

Would appreciate a PM with a link if noone wants to post here.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2999732]Nowadays there are telegram / line / whatsapp groups for nearly all sexpat cities out there. Do we have something similar for Jakarta? A chat group for people actually on site? I have an upcoming trip. Will probably be working remotely from there as well (still deciding for how long in between Jakarta & Phnom Penh) so planning on staying 1-2 months.

And given the scene in Jakarta seems less obvious and transparent than lets say Angeles or Pattaya I would appreciate some back and forth with people on the ground and organize meetups as well.

Would appreciate a PM with a link if noone wants to post here.[/QUOTE]Feel free to start one if no one responds.

There's are / jakartanight on Reddit but it's low traffic.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2998575]Classic is 365 k plus a 5 k entrance fee for both T2 and T5.


-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]So, are Classic girls 365 K or 465 K?

Is a tip for the mamasan included, or is it extra?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2999748]So, are Classic girls 365 K or 465 K?

Is a tip for the mamasan included, or is it extra?[/QUOTE]Unless it has changed since I was last there in late December, then it is 365 k and there is no tip to the mamasan or the girl required.

I would literally pay with 400 k and the mamasan would bring my change back to me Everytime always 35 k a 20 k 10 k and 5 k stapled together. That is in terminal 2, in terminal 5 it is the same price and same procedure but no staple.

There is a 5 k entrance fee that is charged at the end when you turn in your bracelet however that is not a tip.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Joe2422;2999638]That's actually not true, and it's not everything. This is the information for us. I think everyone knows why the girls work there for so little money. To find out what's really going on, I would ask the question: Why do you work here for so little money and not start somewhere else? The answer might surprise many people by how much money they actually work for there.[/QUOTE]If you say that's not true, then you should also state how much it really is otherwise your reply is meaningless.

At Explorer no need to tip the MMS. They are grateful enough that you choose from their stable.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2999796]If you say that's not true, then you should also state how much it really is otherwise your reply is meaningless.

At Explorer no need to tip the MMS. They are grateful enough that you choose from their stable.[/QUOTE]Well according to what some of the guys here ISG report that they are tipping, I would argue that they often make much more than 90 k or 100 k per session. I'll admit I pay a little extra for bareback but some of you guys are giving them an extra 200 k or more just because you think it is cool to give out money.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2999796]If you say that's not true, then you should also state how much it really is otherwise your reply is meaningless.

At Explorer no need to tip the MMS. They are grateful enough that you choose from their stable.[/QUOTE]Wow maybe my brain is not working today. "At Explorer" what are you talkin about?. I would also encourage posters to only use acronyms that are on the abbreviations list.

There is nothing on this board more infuriating than members that make up their own abbreviations!

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2999796]If you say that's not true, then you should also state how much it really is otherwise your reply is meaningless.

At Explorer no need to tip the MMS. They are grateful enough that you choose from their stable.[/QUOTE]You're right. But I think you misunderstood me. In that moment, what you're saying is true. But usually, they work off large amounts of debt, and what they get is their discretionary portion. Ask them!

A girl from Laras Ayu in KI posted this in her WhatsApp status in January.

I assume the ad was for work at her bar. Apparently the girls have everything paid for, including accommodation, food, transportation and hair dresser.

20 juta at 25 days and 4 customers per day would be 200 k per customer.

15 juta at 30 days and 5 customers per day would be just 100 k per customer.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2999848]A girl from Laras Ayu in KI posted this in her WhatsApp status in January.

I assume the ad was for work at her bar. Apparently the girls have everything paid for, including accommodation, food, transportation and hair dresser.

20 juta at 25 days and 4 customers per day would be 200 k per customer.

15 juta at 30 days and 5 customers per day would be just 100 k per customer.[/QUOTE]Normally these type of job-adds also take into account the expected, true or imagined, tips in order to inflate their estimated salary range and attract staff. Not sure how much the locals tip, or if it's enough to screw the average number of customers per day though.

If a girl at Classic gets 100 k out of the 365 k paid to the shop, that makes me think 100 k for good service at that place is a more than generous tip, and even 50 k is decent too.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2999866]Normally these type of job-adds also take into account the expected, true or imagined, tips in order to inflate their estimated salary range and attract staff. Not sure how much the locals tip, or if it's enough to screw the average number of customers per day though.

If a girl at Classic gets 100 k out of the 365 k paid to the shop, that makes me think 100 k for good service at that place is a more than generous tip, and even 50 k is decent too.[/QUOTE]I think it's definitely with tips and not just salary from the bar.

It also aligns with what I've been told from experience. A lady I knew from Classic told me she easily clears 20 million a month. This is exceptionally good income for someone without a college degree in Indonesia. In 2022, I met a 27 year old college educated office worker in Jakarta on seeking and she told me her monthly salary was 7 million. Understandable then why she was on seeking charging 2 million.

One lady I knew from a recent trip posted a picture of money in their WA story after she finished work for the day. It was about 1. 2 million. Unsure though if that was just tips for the day or tips and salary. (I don't know if they get paid daily or monthly, but I would assume monthly so that was just tips).

Initial report:

I spaced out and forgot to apply for an EVisa, which meant I had to stand in the deadly Visa on Arrival line. The wait was long, the actual processing was fast, and the cost was $35.

While I was in line, I completed my customs form online (at the end you get a QR code), and set up an Indonesian Grab account.

I didn't get a SIM card, so I used the airport WiFi to get a Grab taxi into town (less than 300 K).

Classic Hotel has a fancy ground floor, but the rooms are not so fancy. The WiFi is spotty.

The first night, I plan to rest up. The report on the 365 K ladies will come later.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2999866]Normally these type of job-adds also take into account the expected, true or imagined, tips in order to inflate their estimated salary range and attract staff. Not sure how much the locals tip, or if it's enough to screw the average number of customers per day though.

If a girl at Classic gets 100 k out of the 365 k paid to the shop, that makes me think 100 k for good service at that place is a more than generous tip, and even 50 k is decent too.[/QUOTE]A "friend" from the Classic either told me nothing at all or 50 K in the rarest cases 100 K.

[QUOTE=L00PY;2999514]As I mentioned before, of the 365 k IDR, 20 k goes to the mamasan, 100 k goes to the girl. Of the 500 k IDR, 40 k goes to the mamasan, 90 k goes to each girl.

One of the girls I talked with said she did 9-10 a night. I suspect that's on the high end, but I did see one girl I know going downstairs with us as I started a session and after we ended our session and headed upstairs, I saw that same girl coming in again with a different guy. I think most of them aren't pulling those kinds of numbers but the outgoing, popular ones might be.

Some of the girls start early at right when it opens. Others come in over the next few hours. They potentially work 10+ hour shifts and that's why so many of them are sleeping on the couches as the night winds down.

This info is just from talking and asking, so take it with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]There seem to be big number girls and then girls that just sit. I made the mistake of getting wifed up a bit in 2 when I was there. Really great girl, but she somehow found me whenever I came by, so didn't get a ton of action variety wise in 2, she was awesome and hot so w,e. Either way, saw a tiny girl to mix shit up and I was her first and she'd been there 5+ hours, she was brand new and shy so maybe that didn't help, also wearing street cloths (somewhat sexy but just shorts) since she hadn't been there long enough to afford other outfits. The young girls with really slutty outfits seemed to be in and out of the rooms, the less put together but still cute not so much. They were equally attractive, but the slutty outfit girls definitely had the selling down, I mean I was looking at them before the brand new village girls because their asses were hanging out, but the two less popular more shy looking girls I took I liked way more then the hot girls in slutty outfits. They also were REALLY happy with 100 or 200 (BBFS).

There really has been enough said about Classic, so my only advice for your first time would be to see if you can chill for 10 minutes before getting inundated by MMS, if you order a drink they'll give you five minutes, but then just take one they offer you, do that for an hour. When you come back they'll leave you alone to chill if you say you just got back, this gives prime people watching time. Chill for 30 or 40 minutes and you can see how thing operate and it's fun to watch anyway, have a drink then find the girl you really like.

Hey fellas,

Any input in how or where get pro bbj CIM Thailand style?

This is the thing I've seen girls lacking off.

Tried like 50 girls on classic only a couple did it more or less right but not my type and one just gagged after and run to spit in the shower.

Definitely missing this!

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;3000031]Hey fellas,

Any input in how or where get pro bbj CIM Thailand style?

This is the thing I've seen girls lacking off.

Tried like 50 girls on classic only a couple did it more or less right but not my type and one just gagged after and run to spit in the shower.

Definitely missing this![/QUOTE]Art of The Blow (Kelapa Gading) provide that. Last year it was 245 K BJ 1/2 h, 265 K Massage BJ 1 h; 405 K Double jakpot.

I havn't go here this year, but I will do.

[QUOTE=Chilli1;2999609]Could you look on YouTube how to right click and get lunk or any shop name share link near these.

It really helps clickable Link.[/QUOTE]DUDE COME ON. This post of mine had nothing but straight hard facts. If you wanta go then punch the location into google maps yourself. There is no fucking poetry.

In my posts ever; in fact I am in the midst of changing my user name to anti-poetry.

Besides I have been crushed by the secret hate that every indonesian has for bule. They lied at hotel; told me they would not mosquito fog with their.

Industrial fog gun, that if you hold it you look like tony Montana. Yesterday they fogged again, against my very stern requests that they do not. I am crushed now.

I have developed impotence while staying at hotel bercause of the pesticides and am at a very down time in my life now. A life that includes ASAP getting a industrial hygenist in hotel.

(with a court order) going to a Jakarta urologist because if you are not injured you don't have personal injury.

Insteasd of complaining about not having a google map link, you should complement me on breaking up the monotany of all-classic talk!

[QUOTE=XorumFan;3000005]There seem to be big number girls and then girls that just sit. I made the mistake of getting wifed up a bit in 2 when I was there. Really great girl, but she somehow found me whenever I came by, so didn't get a ton of action variety wise in 2, she was awesome and hot so w,e. Either way, saw a tiny girl to mix shit up and I was her first and she'd been there 5+ hours, she was brand new and shy so maybe that didn't help, also wearing street cloths (somewhat sexy but just shorts) since she hadn't been there long enough to afford other outfits. The young girls with really slutty outfits seemed to be in and out of the rooms, the less put together but still cute not so much. They were equally attractive, but the slutty outfit girls definitely had the selling down, I mean I was looking at them before the brand new village girls because their asses were hanging out, but the two less popular more shy looking girls I took I liked way more then the hot girls in slutty outfits. They also were REALLY happy with 100 or 200 (BBFS).

There really has been enough said about Classic, so my only advice for your first time would be to see if you can chill for 10 minutes before getting inundated by MMS, if you order a drink they'll give you five minutes, but then just take one they offer you, do that for an hour. When you come back they'll leave you alone to chill if you say you just got back, this gives prime people watching time. Chill for 30 or 40 minutes and you can see how thing operate and it's fun to watch anyway, have a drink then find the girl you really like.[/QUOTE]What are you talkin about? You don't have to make up excuses "I just got back" . Just ignore them. There is no 5 minute rule to drink your beer, you paid a blue 50, take your sweet ass time to drink.

If you have problems sticking up for yourself go drink your beer over by the pool tables.

You don't even need a mamasan until the very end. Pick your girl directly off the sofa, where the lighting is the best. At the tables the light shines directly at the center of the table.

That means if you ask or involuntarily receive a line-up on the periphary of the table you won't be able to see the girl well. The chairs are bolted to the ground like they are expecting a meth-head visitor.

MY FIRST VISIT TO CLASSIC:

On this thread I've never seen an introductory lay-out / description of terminal two. Correct me if I'm wrong? As soon as you enter and turn left the sofas are on the NEAR WALL and do not curl around because the pool tables are there and eventually the bar.

As soon as you turn right you have the sofas on the NEAR WALL, but they curl around and take up part of the back wall until the cashier cage?

When I went at 6 pm I was confused by girl wearing bunny ears. Was she available?

So my question? The girls that are dancers that are either pricier or completely off limits to take to room. How do you know if she is not available, a dancer? Differeenty uniform?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2999748]So, are Classic girls 365 K or 465 K?

Is a tip for the mamasan included, or is it extra?[/QUOTE]My bad on this, I mistyped a 4 instead of a 3 when I asked about prices many post ago. I recall it being around 350 K back in 2019, odd that prices haven't raised that much, but good for us. I guess. I never tip the mama.

Is Classic Karaoke the full name for Classic? Confirming as it will be my first time in Jakarta later this week. Thank you!

Well so I believe that I had the layout of terminal 2 correct? It is basically circular, well square, with sofas against the walls. There are no nooks and crannies where you would.

Miss a sofa of girls.

So who is going to step up to the plate here and tell me the orientation of the sofas / girls in terminal 5? From the posts I've read, there are nooks and crannies in terminal 5.

It seems possible that you would visit terminal 5 and afterwards, after being told, you would say, "I must have missed that sofa"?

Got 24 hours to reply or ill go there and do the heavy lifting. Why is it important? Because no one on this thread thought of to post a description / layout of the sofas on terminal 2.

I spent 10 minutes in a panic walking in "cold'. I told myself "relax grab a beer, youll figure it out".

If you are going to contribute do it the right way. Start from the entrance door, describe what you see if you turn right, desribe what you see if you turn left. Desribe if and when the sofas end on the back wall. Obviously you would figure it out eventually if you are NOT RETARDED, but that is not my point. A brief on the joint would be helpful.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3000074]What are you talkin about? You don't have to make up excuses "I just got back" . Just ignore them. There is no 5 minute rule to drink your beer, you paid a blue 50, take your sweet ass time to drink.

If you have problems sticking up for yourself go drink your beer over by the pool tables.

You don't even need a mamasan until the very end. Pick your girl directly off the sofa, where the lighting is the best. At the tables the light shines directly at the center of the table.

That means if you ask or involuntarily receive a line-up on the periphary of the table you won't be able to see the girl well. The chairs are bolted to the ground like they are expecting a meth-head visitor.

MY FIRST VISIT TO CLASSIC:

On this thread I've never seen an introductory lay-out / description of terminal two. Correct me if I'm wrong? As soon as you enter and turn left the sofas are on the NEAR WALL and do not curl around because the pool tables are there and eventually the bar.

As soon as you turn right you have the sofas on the NEAR WALL, but they curl around and take up part of the back wall until the cashier cage?

When I went at 6 pm I was confused by girl wearing bunny ears. Was she available?

So my question? The girls that are dancers that are either pricier or completely off limits to take to room. How do you know if she is not available, a dancer? Differeenty uniform?[/QUOTE]Addition:

Sorry I think everyone on this thread has thick skin. Your post for me was the most difficult I have ever read. "Big number girls and girls that just sit. " I have no idea what you are talking about.

First of all You must have been bringing images of Thailand into your post, because I am unaware of girls in Classic wearing numbers.

You were right there are two different kinds of woman there. There are the ones that sit for long periods of time; and there are the "roamers".

If you saw the carpet in the daytime / with light you would see a well-worn trail that leads to ther womans bathroom. These girls that roam around, I would venture to say, spend more of their time.

Walking around on their shift than sitting. They can and frequently are the hotties. You can act like you are drinking your beer near the pool tables / bathrooms and follow the hottie when she comes out of the bathroom to find where she sits if she ever does. Or I suppose you can just grab / select these girls while they are on the move?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2999917]Initial report:

I spaced out and forgot to apply for an EVisa, which meant I had to stand in the deadly Visa on Arrival line. The wait was long, the actual processing was fast, and the cost was $35.

While I was in line, I completed my customs form online (at the end you get a QR code), and set up an Indonesian Grab account.

I didn't get a SIM card, so I used the airport WiFi to get a Grab taxi into town (less than 300 K).

Classic Hotel has a fancy ground floor, but the rooms are not so fancy. The WiFi is spotty.

The first night, I plan to rest up. The report on the 365 K ladies will come later.[/QUOTE]You know if you put in your post the name of a hotel, you really should put the price in. Why? Because your purpose for posting would be so the reader doesn't have to.

Get on the internet right?

Staff at the counter classic are willing right now at the moment to give you a deluxe room for 618 k. This room has enough room, that they put two shortened couches in the room.

The breakfast buffet means you are getting a 30-35 (sq. Meter or whatever the agoda units are?) for about 30 $ a night. The breakfast buffet is more than you could ever imagine.

Orange juice and you heard this right guava juice that is heavenly. The coffee is drip and similarly outstanding. There you go! Eyewitness account!

Ok now you help me?

1. Where can I find pay as you go fitness? Gaja Mada street? How about going over to Redtop? And asking saying you will pay them money to use their gym?

2. If you exchange Whatsapp with classic girl I am thinking chances she would come to your classic hotel room without some sort of "classic bar fine" to be not doable?

Any answers?

3. I want to dress a hooker up in a sexy french maid outfit. I suppose I could motor over to gaja mada / hayam wuruk and pick up a street hooker (that area is pretty prolific with streethookers I think).

At 10 pm at night. Anybody know of any other locations near classic (not lokisari, I got gassed over there) to pick up a freelancer?

Cancel I just came back from terminal 5. There is nothing complex there at all. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Its a cavernous venue with tons of wasted space. 80% of the seating is not used. At least on a Tuesday night. I was disappointed in the quality of the girls; I had two beers and left.

The lighting is terrific though. Don't take a girl here without getting a look at her behind!

I sat there pickin daisies with a beer in front of both sofas. (pickin daisies is deep thinking "well her nose is flat and wide, but she has a rack). They would definitely remember me if I came back.

Tomorrow, so you go to terminal 5 every other day with a different shirt on.

There is absolutely no value in having mamasan help you. Mamasans job I'm convinced is to shine her light on ther ugliest girl in the joint to pawn off on you.

I'm off this great big boulevard gajah mada indo-style street hookers in about a half-hour, make somethin out of nothin on this Tuesday night.

Is Plant Smoke really Offshore Swell? Asking for a linguistics annalist.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000392]Is Plant Smoke really Offshore Swell? Asking for a linguistics annalist.[/QUOTE]I don't think so. OS's post were much easier to read.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000392]Is Plant Smoke really Offshore Swell? Asking for a linguistics annalist.[/QUOTE]Can't believe anyone could possibly think that. The man who discovered Grab Feel, and somebody who starts ever post by saying his name, even though every post already shows that automatically?

[QUOTE=XorumFan;3000005]There seem to be big number girls and then girls that just sit. I made the mistake of getting wifed up a bit in 2 when I was there. Really great girl, but she somehow found me whenever I came by, so didn't get a ton of action variety wise in 2, she was awesome and hot so w,e. Either way, saw a tiny girl to mix shit up and I was her first and she'd been there 5+ hours, she was brand new and shy so maybe that didn't help, also wearing street cloths (somewhat sexy but just shorts) since she hadn't been there long enough to afford other outfits. The young girls with really slutty outfits seemed to be in and out of the rooms, the less put together but still cute not so much. They were equally attractive, but the slutty outfit girls definitely had the selling down, I mean I was looking at them before the brand new village girls because their asses were hanging out, but the two less popular more shy looking girls I took I liked way more then the hot girls in slutty outfits. They also were REALLY happy with 100 or 200 (BBFS).

There really has been enough said about Classic, so my only advice for your first time would be to see if you can chill for 10 minutes before getting inundated by MMS, if you order a drink they'll give you five minutes, but then just take one they offer you, do that for an hour. When you come back they'll leave you alone to chill if you say you just got back, this gives prime people watching time. Chill for 30 or 40 minutes and you can see how thing operate and it's fun to watch anyway, have a drink then find the girl you really like.[/QUOTE]This is the game plan EVERY time I go, but what actually happens is having been hit with a tidal wave of beautiful young ladies, you can normally last 5 minutes and you're off.

[QUOTE=XorumFan;3000005] so my only advice for your first time would be to see if you can chill for 10 minutes before getting inundated by MMS, if you order a drink they'll give you five minutes, but then just take one they offer you, do that for an hour. When you come back they'll leave you alone to chill if you say you just got back, this gives prime people watching time. Chill for 30 or 40 minutes and you can see how thing operate and it's fun to watch anyway, have a drink then find the girl you really like.[/QUOTE]Yep, ignore them. As soon as you walk in, they'll grab you and call over a girl or two. After my 1st visit, I started to tell them, "Leave me alone, I will choose the girl myself". As someone else mentioned, the mamasans job is to try and pressure you to go with the girl who she chooses (and she'll choose the one who likely gets fewer customers). Don't fall for this bullshit. I like curvy girls, whilst about 90% of the Classic T2 girls are short, petite, skinny types. So, my pool of choice is very limited. My routine is: I walk in, brush aside any mamasan who comes up to me, I walk around and openly look at the girls sitting on the sofas. I make a mental list of the 1-in-20 girls that are actually my type. I don't buy a drink, or sit down. Once I've seen the whole club, I may sit down and order a coke if there isn't a good enough girl (I go early at around 3 pm), or I will beckon one of the girls over. I will explain what I want using Google Translate. If her body language is good (she smiles, looks interested etc) then I pay the manasam, and head off to the room.

I was there last autumn, I went 3-4 times a week to Classic, and all the mamasans soon started leaving me alone, knowing that they cannot push a girl onto me. And that I will pick 2 or 3 girls (one at a time) every time I go there.

Don't be pressurised guys. And don't ever give the mamasan a tip.

I go to train tracks 3 times hopping find the gem I meet the first time here, and never found the girl again.

The only young one I found refused me, the other ones don't feel so enthusiast compare to the first time.

Has something happen? Has someone goes here and do shit?

After 3 times it's not a coincidence.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3000449]Can't believe anyone could possibly think that. The man who discovered Grab Feel, and somebody who starts ever post by saying his name, even though every post already shows that automatically?[/QUOTE]What the heck is grab feel?

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3000449]Can't believe anyone could possibly think that. The man who discovered Grab Feel, and somebody who starts ever post by saying his name, even though every post already shows that automatically?[/QUOTE]Big deal introducing myself twice Werqu, if anything that's polite. OS visited the gas chamber I was staying at (hotel) and is a seasoned vet on this board; so I take that as a complement.

If you have to look in the dictionary after he or I post then that's on you, no?

I have released maybe 10 percent of the info. I have; info that you will see nowhere else. I'm the best thing that ever happened to this board. After I release part 2,3,4,5 of bekasi, Bekasi.

Will be like going to adult disneyland.

Bekasi, I have the article, was rated #1 in all of Indonesia for sex venues. I'm a giver, not a taker. And to continue giving I require just a little bit of contribution on this thread from others.

I'm still waiting for the answer on my query of- What are the fitness gyms a moto-drive away from Classic where I can pay daily fees?

I am not geographically inclined in Jakarta. I am a ROOKIE.

I need help like everyone else.

I see Werqu has posted on Jakarta dating apps and states that he is a tinder platinum member and has had some success matching. More than once, I have stated I am having difficulty.

Matching with tinder gold. You would think maybe werqu would have stepped forward and helped me out? Just saying Werqu.

10 years ago you would go out manga besar, take a left turn on hayam wuruk / gajah mada heading down this blvd. Towards Monas right? You would pass stadium (which was open then).

And not too far down on the stadium side of this blvd. You would encounter many street hookers, that were fine ass looking!

This was my goto when unsuccessful elsewhere, earlier in the day. Well this blvd. Now is unrecognizable. It is raised in many sections, and is innaccesible to the side of the road where a street hooker.

Would have been. Seeing this last night was a huge bummer for me!

So two questions that I ask politely get answered.

1. Has anybody seen any street hookers on jalan gajah mada / hayam wuruk? Are they hanging out on the side streets / spokes off this blvd. ? Do they only come out after midnight?

2. WTF with this Gajah Mada / hayam wuruk? Is it named gajah mada in one direction and hayam wuruk in the other? Or is it the same god-damn street?

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;3000572]What the heck is grab feel?[/QUOTE]Grab Feel is an upgraded service of transportation where the driver (female) allows you to feel her up during the ride. So in essence you get GFE. A real girl friend experience during your journey. Lots written by Offshore Swell about this boutique service many pages back.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000392]Is Plant Smoke really Offshore Swell? Asking for a linguistics annalist.[/QUOTE]I didn't know this word "linguistics annalist" exists until today: the.

I reckon Plant Smoke is a different person. He is at a different level and I feel different personality.

I always do research before visiting new place (Hong Kong 15 years ago to Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, Poland, Germany.) but his level of research is unimaginable.

Classic, Kotah Inda, Emporium, Colloseum is more than enough for me. Many girls to choose for at least 2 weeks sex to the point of no erection feeling.

Train track or Tinder private girls are just optional different taste.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;3000504]I go to train tracks 3 times hopping find the gem I meet the first time here, and never found the girl again.

The only young one I found refused me, the other ones don't feel so enthusiast compare to the first time.

Has something happen? Has someone goes here and do shit?

After 3 times it's not a coincidence.[/QUOTE]There were some videos on youtube showing some girls. None of them looks attractive to me. I may venture to have a look if really bored but not very keen.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000658]Grab Feel is an upgraded service of transportation where the driver (female) allows you to feel her up during the ride. So in essence you get GFE. A real girl friend experience during your journey. Lots written by Offshore Swell about this boutique service many pages back.[/QUOTE]It was debunked.

Offshore Swell himself later posted that he had made up Grab Feel as a joke but then gullible members believed it was true. LIH69 also debunked it as well. No multinational corporation is going to allow its customers to sexually assault their employees, that would be a huge liability.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000658]Grab Feel is an upgraded service of transportation where the driver (female) allows you to feel her up during the ride. So in essence you get GFE. A real girl friend experience during your journey. Lots written by Offshore Swell about this boutique service many pages back.[/QUOTE]Guys, please don't bring this nonsense up again. The world is full of idiots and some of them might read this forum and believe this joke.

Okay I am Sorry.

She Busted Me. You can see the look on her eyes.

Grand Indonesia Mall's mid level eatery:

It's Just that I miss Offshore Swells posts. And so does she!

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000681]Okay I am Sorry.

She Busted Me. You can see the look on her eyes.

Grand Indonesia Mall's mid level eatery:

It's Just that I miss Offshore Swells posts. And so does she![/QUOTE]Sorry dude's but OS don't post no more. Admin determined that OS contributions were "unnecessary drama" just too many times.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3000681]Okay I am Sorry.

She Busted Me. You can see the look on her eyes.

Grand Indonesia Mall's mid level eatery:

It's Just that I miss Offshore Swells posts. And so does she![/QUOTE]Are you sure that's a woman some masculine facial features like shape of forehead and sharp jawline.

One is at Sari Ayu and the other at Laras Ayu. Short, thin, small boobs, baby face. I took the one at Sari Ayu. She was ok. I was not in the mood that day. The mami opened her big mouth asking her if her sister still works at Laras Ayu. So the girl knew I just wanted to sex twins, not because I thought she was pretty. No girl likes to learn you only want her because she has blue eyes, red hair, tall, big boobs, or whatever. They want to hear that you want them because they are pretty and have a great personality. That put a damper on her attitude. First time for this happening. I asked, "No condom. Cum outside. 150,000. She said no but the look on her face was like she was mad or even hateful. I never recovered and did not cum.

I tried to get the other one twice and she was always gone. Went another time and the mami (who knows English and I warned her before not to play games) played games. I asked for the twin and she brought some random girl and I said WTF? She texted on her phone and said she is coming and went outside. I am pretty sure she texted the sister from Sari Ayu to come over. I walked away. The same mami a few days earlier gave me a small boob girl when I asked for a big boob girl. Not even a medium but a small. I was tired of her sh*t. Go to either bar and ask for the twin. They all know who you want at each bar. No idea why they do not work at the same bar. My guess is they may be fighting or do not want to do 3-somes.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2998727]

The only venues open here seem to be two Mister Braids and New Vins?

The fact no one has mentioned these lately on this thread means what?

That they could be going off?

Or they are deader than a door nail?[/QUOTE]I did a report on Mr. Braids and New Vins last year. I told you by PM to simply just read my stuff and answer most of your questions. Also, did New Medica and the 2 bars near it.

FYI None of you seem to have figured out the correct way to pay for the girls at Travel and Classic and why you should do it my way.

My mobile internet doesn't work inside Sari Ayu and they don't have Wi-Fi for clients.

With my limited bahasa I find it rather difficult to explain the difference between tea-bagging and a rimjob, without using a translation tool.

Does somebody here have mobile internet inside Sari Ayu and which is your provider? I would get a new sim card if that helped.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2968228]As soon as I exited Classic for better cell reception I google maps-ed
up the address 19 yo sent me and found what looked like the same location
on grab. Getting ready to book, I sent her a screenshot for her to
verify, and pretty exactly two hours later I was banging her on my bed.

She was a really shy girl. Cute, but about 5kg overweight. Since I
booked her Grab myself (well, what do you know, the grab a feel option
is gone now), I could see when she would arrive, and I was preparing
a bath. I like to relax in a bath, alone also, but especially with a girl,
and one of the things Redtop hotel has going for it over Movenpick is
that redtop has a bath thub. I suspect everything else, possibly sans the gym,
is better at Movenpick though.

So as I went down to the lobby in the elevator with another guest, as
soon as the elevator door opened, I saw this girl standing in front
of it, waiting. I gave her a wave and a smile, and she jumped in the
elevator, and we went back up. I made some polite small talk, not
really being sure if she would understand much english or not. Our
text messages had gone fine, but I didn't know if she was using google
translate or not, so I asked her about that in the elevator, and she
said she did not use translate.

We went into my room, and I was playing some music. She asked to turn
on the tv, and turn off the light. I refused turning off the light,
but agreed with her in the end that we could turn off the main light,
and leave the tv and hallway light on. Sat down on the bed for
a few minutes, and then I asked if she wanted to join me for a bath?
She was not sure what a bath was, and thought I meant shower?
I told her they were not the same, and she wanted to see what it was.

I showed her, and she said it was a shower. I told her no, it's not.
A shower is where you stand up and water falls down on you, but this
is a bath. You sit down. She said, but you both get wet the same, so
it's the same. We then had an argument about this and I kicked her the
hell out, before handjob-ing myself to sleep.

Well, not exactly. She said I could go shower myself, and she would
just wait on the bed. I said I would go take a bath then.

She was to shy to jump into the bath with me, so I took a bath myself
for 15 minutes (why waste the warm water), and then joined her wearing
my towel, as she was sitting on the bed and playing on her phone.

There are 18 year olds who life has matured enough to be pleasant company
(the beautiful 18 year old at Classic), and there are are 19 year olds who
are annoyingly immature, and tonight's victim was in the later category.

Later on I suspect it was kind of because her experience so far had
been mostly with Chinese/Japanese/Korean people, and, eh, from what
I've seen in Japanese porn, Japanese people kind of like girls who act like her
("what are you doing"? "why are you doing that?" "what are you doing?").

Anyway, after we'd been laying next to each other on the bed for some
minutes, I gently forced her head down on my chest ("what are you doing?",
"nooo", "what are you doing?"), and stroked her head as she lay there
for some 5-10 minutes, eventually also gently caressing her breasts.

After I felt she was relaxed, I gently rolled her over on her back, and
started to gently kiss her neck, lips, etc. She was now also getting
aroused and started pulling me in for some proper kissing, while I
started to fondle her breast more hard, and also pulling up her skirt
and grinding against her underwear. I did this for a while, her getting
more and more horny, before pulling her up to a sitting position and
started to work on removing her bra. She asked me if I could do it,
and a few seconds later I had removed it.

I laid her down again, continued grinding my dick against her underwear,
and now also kissing her breasts, and I could feel her getting more and
more horny. After some more of this, I pulled off her underwear,
but not skirt as I was not sure how it was zipped up, and started
slowly inserting my dick into her pussy.

I pumped in and out for some 20-30 seconds, to seal the deal so to say,
before I pulled out to get rid off the skirt. She had insisted on turning
of most off the light a short while after she came in, and I couldn't see
where the skirt was locked up. So after I started pulling it down, she
told me to wait, wait, and opened it herself. I lifted her legs up in the air, against my shoulders, and
then pulled off the skirt, and continued banging her. I could tell she
really liked this, as she was spreading her legs wide and pulling me deep
inside her, though at the same time I could her it also pained her a bit,
so I went less deep for a while, before she started pulling me deeper
again.

In the end I shot my babyless sperm inside her, and got usual surprise
from her about why I came inside her, and she got the usual spiel from me
about my vasectomy. She however continued to worry, saying she needed to
eat the pill. I told her she did not need to do it because blah-blah,
and tried to assure her, but she was still worried. So I spent a few
minutes trying to further assure her as best I could, but not really
all that much I could do. Told her in the end she could take medicine
if she wanted, but there was no reason to do so.

Anyway, now she was no longer nervous about the sex with me anymore
(instead she was nervous about being pregnant, which is hardly an improvement
from her point of view unfortunately), and since we had already fucked
she felt less shy and we could talk about stuff.

She asked me if I had had sex with many girls in Jakarta. I said yes.
She asked how many? I said five every day. She said OMG. I then
joked that she had to leave soon, as another girl was coming at 1 am.
She asked really? So she had to go? I played along for a while,
until admitting I was only joking. We then talked about her experience,
which I was curious about.

Although only 19 years old (at least that's what her tinder profile says,
and it looks about right to me), she has certainly been slutting around.
She'd banged three Koreans, I think she said 4 or 5 Japanese, and she
could not remember how many Chinese. She said they all had really small
dicks and she was so sad because she could not feel anything. I asked
about Indonesians? She said she had not had sex with any indonesians.
She was afraid (not sure of what).

I then made some joke about this, and OMG, so many men you have had
sex with. I have never had had sex with anyone from Korea, nobody from
Japan, nobody from China, or actually, one from Japan, but only one.
This made her laugh a bit, and she asked about the Japanese girl,
and I said it was while I was visiting Japan for a few days, but
no Korea, no China.

She told me she had never had sex with bule before, and she wanted to try.
I asked if it was a good experience or bad experience? She said it was
good, because big dick, but it also gave her some pain. But she like.

We then blah-blahed a while more, and I found out she'd meet all those
asian dudes on two other dating apps. One I've used myself before
(WeChat), while the other I had never heard of (TanTan), but which I
have since then downloaded, even if not yet registered on.


I said she was welcome to sleep over if she wanted, or she could go back
home if her mother was worried about her, as last time I messaged her
and she was being indecisive about coming, she said she was having a
fight with her mother at the moment and could not come now, but could
come at 7 or 8 pm. Then she said it had started raining a lot there,
and she had to walk out to some hallway where the taxi car could not
enter, even if I booked a car, and after that I just muted her.

Well, I could understand from the Grab booking I made for her today that
at least the walk out was true, and maybe the rain too.

She asked me if I wanted her to stay. It was my last night, and while
I had asked for a slightly later checkout when it started to look like
this girl was coming over, she was not really my type personality wise.
I also had planned to spend the time between breakfast and checkout to
pack my things, before idling away some hours at the gym until Classic
started to get populated. Those things would be easier to do if I did
not have to entertain a guest.

Had it been chef-girl or the 18 yo from Classic I would have answered
"yes, I want you to stay" so that I could bang them a few more times,
but in this case I just said she was welcome to stay if she wanted.
She said she was not sure, so I told her, ok, but she needed to decide.
If she wanted to stay I wanted to turn off the light and sleep now,
and then we continued laying next to each other and talking for a bit,
before she said she would leave at 1 am (in about 20 minutes), when the
other girl would come.

I laughed and told her that was just a joke, and she could stay if she
wanted. I think she wanted me to say I really wanted her to stay and
blah-blah, and had it not been my last day and I did not have to do the
packing and gym and blah-blah, I'd probably have said it to be polite,
but also because I would have meant it. As the case was now I preferred her
to leave however for practical reasons, though I of course did not say that.

Maybe she picked up on it anyway, as around 1 am I let her use my phone
to book grab, which took her back home. Some more worried pregnancy
messages from her which I then tried to answer, and in the end
she seemed to have read an indonesian text about it that I sent her,
asked me if it meant I was "sterile", and stopped worrying.

Slept, and after gym the next day I did a quick walk over to Classic.
Had messaged mamasan Chacha about what time she was starting work,
but she said 5pm. At that time I planned to be at least half way to
the airport, so instead I had to suffer one of the other mamasans.

Could not see anyone I wanted to go with for the first 5 minutes after
I arrived at 3 pm (and I saw a chinese dude come back out with two
girls shortly after I arrived, so he was obviously there even earlier),
but suddenly a girl in red with a see-through dress appeared that was
my type. Beckoned her over via the mamasan and exchanged a few words.
She wanted me to take her friend also, which my instinct was to say no to,
but then asked who her friend was, and thought her friend looked ok too,
so said ok.

She said she was 20 and had worked there for one week. And her friend
was also 20 and had also worked there for one week. Well, possibly
they are 20, and possibly they have only worked at Classic for one week,
but if so, they have definitely been whoring elsewhere before.

Not as mercurial as the typical Bangkok go-go girl, but these, especially
the one I had initially selected, and who could speak English, were
starting to annoying me. Sucked dick for a few minutes, then wanted
to put on condom and have sex. I had to stop her, and this repeated
four-five more times, before I told her I did not like all this talk
about condom condom condom all the time while giving me a blowjob.
In the end I agreed to tip them each 200,000
for no condom (after lol-ing at her original demand of 500,000 each),
and then fucked both of them, alternating between pussies.

As far as girls at Classic goes, my least satisfactory fuck due to
their "no this, no that" attitude. With other girls I felt we could all
laugh and have a good time, but with these girls the laughs were hard to
come by. No surprised look or questions from them when I came inside
either, so I'm guessing at least they learned to use the pill wherever
it is they were whoring before.

Anyway, we parted on good terms and with some laughs, though they
are not girls I'd repeat. I then did a quick walk back to Redtop,
booking Grab while walking, and departed for Bangkok.

Hope to visit Jakarta again next summer too, perhaps at the start
and at the end of my Bangkok vacation.[/QUOTE]What a painful bunch of paragraphs this was to read. It must have taken seveal hours just to create and type out. I came out of this novel.

With redtop, Tinder, and Classic. Some people here must be past contributors to the old penthouse forum which also was poetry, albeit fiction.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3000814]My mobile internet doesn't work inside Sari Ayu and they don't have Wi-Fi for clients.

With my limited bahasa I find it rather difficult to explain the difference between tea-bagging and a rimjob, without using a translation tool.

Does somebody here have mobile internet inside Sari Ayu and which is your provider? I would get a new sim card if that helped.[/QUOTE]Google translate lets you download the languages for later offline use, though not as good as when online, works well enough for text usually.

Might be easier to find some porn photos or video clips to save on your phone to show the girls later what you want though.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3000825]Google translate lets you download the languages for later offline use, though not as good as when online, works well enough for text usually.

Might be easier to find some porn photos or video clips to save on your phone to show the girls later what you want though.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that was helpful. The part about tea-bagging was actually a joke, but this horrible forum software removes emoticons. Please imagine eye rolling emoji here.

I would still love to know if I can get internet inside this brothel.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3000850]
I would still love to know if I can get internet inside this brothel.[/QUOTE]Sorry, no idea. Is it just mobile data / internet that does not work inside for you, or is it that your phone does not get a signal at all?

Assuming you've already tried simply asking politely, maybe try this: put a 50 k bill next to your phone, wifi-settings displayed, and ask some staff they can help you connect to the wifi?

If your phone gets no signal at all, you could go to network settings on your phone and click the "select network operator manually". After a while (up to a minute), your phone should list the networks available. If it doesn't list anyone, then that zone doesn't have network coverage from anyone, so there's no point in getting a different simcard. If it lists other providers, you can try connecting to one of those providers. Probably you will get a message saying you're not allowed to do that after some seconds, because you need to have a sim from that provider, but at least it will be an indication that the signal is strong enough to connect, and you will know what company you need to buy a sim from. Just to be sure, try connecting to all of them. Maybe you will have luck and your provider has some agreement with one of the others, though it's unlikely.

Google something like "How do I manually select network operators on android / iphone", and you should see how to do it.

If your phone is getting a signal, but too weak or slow (e.g. , 2G) for data, I have no idea. Listing network operators would still show you what other operators are available, if any, and thus what other simcards you can try, but not so easy to know if their signal will be any stronger than what you already have.

I'd go the video / photo route myself. ;-)

I don't get any signal, if I remember correctly. I'll try your ideas, thanks.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3000814]My mobile internet doesn't work inside Sari Ayu and they don't have Wi-Fi for clients.

With my limited bahasa I find it rather difficult to explain the difference between tea-bagging and a rimjob, without using a translation tool.

Does somebody here have mobile internet inside Sari Ayu and which is your provider? I would get a new sim card if that helped.[/QUOTE]Personnally when I go to a brothel I don't need my phone at all.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;3000865]Personnally when I go to a brothel I don't need my phone at all.[/QUOTE]How then do you tell the girl that you want her to put her left foot up your ass, and not her right hand up your nose? Are you fluent in Bahasa?

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I had my thumb and forefinger about two inches apart in the proper position, to convey the size of my pecker going thru the front door of new wijaya 77.

And raja mas jl. Gedung panjang. It didn't convince the girl. I didn't really want her anyways. These two bars are 200,000 rp. Girls and they look it.

On this thread, therse two bars are often the prelude to kotas indah. At Royal VIP, last night, the fishbowl is on the second floor. They have gold and platinum girls there.

900 and 1.5 millions. They had some stunners in there. But you have to be patient and wait for the girls to go to the elevator on their way to the karaoke rooms to see them. Ill do it, split the seams.

In between the girls chairs, to get a better look at them (this is what the Asians do) but I prefer not to. It is awkward and you are on the line of being a voyeur.

I sat with a girl for three minutes and the mamasan came over and was bitchy to go to the room right away. WTF? I later pulled out a blue 50 gave it to this ***** with my translated phone text in her face, "Treat me better next time I'm here".

*On a motorbike don't just put the helmet on your head! Do yourself as favor and adjust the strap. A loose strap is like riding without a helmet.

Anybody have any info on club flight 108 that is the new name? Of illegals club?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3000821]What a painful bunch of paragraphs this was to read. It must have taken seveal hours just to create and type out. I came out of this novel.

With redtop, Tinder, and Classic. Some people here must be past contributors to the old penthouse forum which also was poetry, albeit fiction.[/QUOTE]Truth be told, I'm rather flattered some would think my report was fiction. Thank you.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3000596]
I'm still waiting for the answer on my query of- What are the fitness gyms a moto-drive away from Classic where I can pay daily fees?

I see Werqu has posted on Jakarta dating apps and states that he is a tinder platinum member and has had some success matching. More than once, I have stated I am having difficulty.

Matching with tinder gold. You would think maybe werqu would have stepped forward and helped me out? Just saying Werqu.[/QUOTE]Redtop hotel, a 10 minute walk from Classic, has a gym that I'm pretty sure is open to outsiders, though I'd call them and verify first. It's good enough to be a low-end normal gym, and thus a lot better than most hotel gyms. Has showers and towels also.

Tinder: "he is a tinder platinum member" kind of makes it sound less pathetic than it is. Almost like an airline membership. Tinder gold doesn't do much in my experience. Tinder management sucks and they ban people so easily, and so hard, that I feel uncomfortable saying anything good about it, but platinum is supposed to put you up front for the people you've already liked, considerably increasing the chance they will at least see your profile. That seems to be somewhat true in my experience, so a few weeks before arriving in Jakarta next time I'll spend some of my idle time swiping like on tinder girls near my soon-to-be Jakarta hotel.

I've only used tinder for normal, non-p4p, girls in Jakarta though, and have for some reason not experienced the overflowing of offers from p4p-girls some others here seem to be gifted with. I'd not think any p4p-girls would bother to read my profile close enough to think I'm not the type of guy to pay for pussy, so perhaps it's that I look so handsome they simply can't imagine I'd ever need to pay for pussy, and that's why my matches are almost all normal girls.

Also, that's Mr. Werqweq to you, Plantfart.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3001183]I had my thumb and forefinger about two inches apart in the proper position, to convey the size of my pecker going thru the front door of new wijaya 77.

And raja mas jl. Gedung panjang. It didn't convince the girl. I didn't really want her anyways. These two bars are 200,000 rp. Girls and they look it.

On this thread, therse two bars are often the prelude to kotas indah. At Royal VIP, last night, the fishbowl is on the second floor. They have gold and platinum girls there.

900 and 1.5 millions. They had some stunners in there. But you have to be patient and wait for the girls to go to the elevator on their way to the karaoke rooms to see them. Ill do it, split the seams.

In between the girls chairs, to get a better look at them (this is what the Asians do) but I prefer not to. It is awkward and you are on the line of being a voyeur.

I sat with a girl for three minutes and the mamasan came over and was bitchy to go to the room right away. WTF? I later pulled out a blue 50 gave it to this ***** with my translated phone text in her face, "Treat me better next time I'm here".

*On a motorbike don't just put the helmet on your head! Do yourself as favor and adjust the strap. A loose strap is like riding without a helmet.[/QUOTE]Appreciate you for sharing the info. I don't know these places and will check them out! The best place in Jarkata is Royal VIP?

The gym at Redtop hotel is not open to external visitors.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3001328]Truth be told, I'm rather flattered some would think my report was fiction. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I didn't say that. I have no doubt your post really happened, that doesn't mean it had any value. Why anyone would want to describe.

Behind bedroom door the specifics of having a somewhat pliable, or in my case fully pliable, muscle being inserted into a hole is beyond me.

I am about location, name of establishment, and whether they have go-upstairs room on premises. I am having to come to grips with ther fact.

That I will never be able to change ISG and the plethora of poetry writers here that like to tell you about making love.

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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2999917]Initial report:

I spaced out and forgot to apply for an EVisa, which meant I had to stand in the deadly Visa on Arrival line. The wait was long, the actual processing was fast, and the cost was $35.

While I was in line, I completed my customs form online (at the end you get a QR code), and set up an Indonesian Grab account.

I didn't get a SIM card, so I used the airport WiFi to get a Grab taxi into town (less than 300 K).

.[/QUOTE]You may wait for the visa on arrival. But to fill out the form of the eVisa it takes even more time! Those chaps who created the from just wanted to prove what smart asses they are:

2 attachement you must provide as PDF and not jpg.

Once you scroll back, you get thrown out and must start all a new.

The english translation is confusing: tourist or work is not the same as tourist and family visit.

If you only got one handy, its almost impossibe to finish it. If you do it, do it back home using a laptop where you can move beteen several windows.

The two other apps / forms for customs and for health check are more easy to handle.

Positive: on departure you don't need any form anymore: just put your passport on the scanner --and here you go.

OK, guys, lets wait when the first order station for the chicks at TravelHotel are made like the McDonald order colums: you choose what you want by photos and tick if you wish some special treatments. And then pay, you get a number and the girl wll show up.

Silly digital times. I hate that "progress".

[QUOTE=Safado70;3001413]The gym at Redtop hotel is not open to external visitors.[/QUOTE]That's strange. When I was staying at the hotel they had what looked like posters in bahasa listing the fee per week / month by the gym.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3001472]That's strange. When I was staying at the hotel they had what looked like posters in bahasa listing the fee per week / month by the gym.[/QUOTE]Strange. I asked this morning at reception. Well, wouldn't be the first time I got a wrong information from somebody here.

I've now been to Classic 1, 2, 5, Hotel Travel, Emporium, Club 1001, and Kotha Inda. What's missing? If I'm honest, I still believe that Classic / Travel are the best options as a complete package. 365,000 or 400,000 are simply unbeatable. I also think the quality of the women is good. So where else do I need to go to explore something new?

[QUOTE=Joe2422;3001492]I've now been to Classic 1, 2, 5, Hotel Travel, Emporium, Club 1001, and Kotha Inda. What's missing? If I'm honest, I still believe that Classic / Travel are the best options as a complete package. 365,000 or 400,000 are simply unbeatable. I also think the quality of the women is good. So where else do I need to go to explore something new?[/QUOTE]How was 1001? Did you get a BBBJ?

[QUOTE=Joe2422;3001492]I've now been to Classic 1, 2, 5, Hotel Travel, Emporium, Club 1001, and Kotha Inda. What's missing? If I'm honest, I still believe that Classic / Travel are the best options as a complete package. 365,000 or 400,000 are simply unbeatable. I also think the quality of the women is good. So where else do I need to go to explore something new?[/QUOTE]By Classic 1 so you mean that loud music club on the first floor? All the reports here claim that it is more expensive and super loud in there and not better than T2. I just go to drink beer in the coffee shop on that level and go to T2 and T5 for girls.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;3001454]You may wait for the visa on arrival. But to fill out the form of the eVisa it takes even more time! Those chaps who created the from just wanted to prove what smart asses they are:

2 attachement you must provide as PDF and not jpg.

Once you scroll back, you get thrown out and must start all a new.

The english translation is confusing: tourist or work is not the same as tourist and family visit.

If you only got one handy, its almost impossibe to finish it. If you do it, do it back home using a laptop where you can move beteen several windows.

The two other apps / forms for customs and for health check are more easy to handle.

Positive: on departure you don't need any form anymore: just put your passport on the scanner --and here you go.

OK, guys, lets wait when the first order station for the chicks at TravelHotel are made like the McDonald order colums: you choose what you want by photos and tick if you wish some special treatments. And then pay, you get a number and the girl wll show up.

Silly digital times. I hate that "progress".[/QUOTE]This is simply not true.

I just filled out the eVOA yesterday. It literally took me like 15 mins. Much easier to do on a laptop than on a phone tho that is true. I've done it on both. This time I didn't have any problem whatsoever with the fields messing up or having to start over. It is true it asks for 2 PDF documents. One is the itenerary of your onward flight which will already be in PDF format in the email you receive when you purchased your onward flight leaving Jakarta, the other is just the picture on your passport info page from the first field (the jpeg) turned into a PDF which I was able to do online on the Adobe acrobat website for free in another tab (literally like 2 mins to convert and download) then I went back to the other tab and selected the file and that was it. Super easy. After submitting the application for the eVOA it took me to the finpay page to pay the 500 IDR fee, this time it worked the first time with my capital one debit card and after making the payment I instantly received an email with my E-Visa inside good to go and says I can use the E-Gates.

-Gabacho.

I have been in Jakarta off and on for the last couple of weeks and I would agree Classic and Travel are the best value. The mamasans at classic (2 and 5) do irritante me with them constantly pushing their girls and calling them over uninvited. I didn't experience travel being as bad.

For what it's worth, I like kota indah as well (but the last week of so it seems girls are being taken out of the bars in large numbers by East Asians. Not sure if this has to do with the golden week in those countries, but the Holiday Inn as well is just a coming and going of girls. More obvious then I typically see in Pattaya.

What emporium and 1001 is concerned, the entourage is up scale and the girls are presented really well (especially in 1001), but once in the room it is just a typical Indo girl, not that much different than the cheaper options. What service is concerned, Emporium had one of the best sessions I had and one of the worst I had; two decent sessions at 1001. Funily enough, the good one in emporium was the only session that required a rubber. Might be because the vivo's don't fit me. The last 1001 didn't even try and just reached for the gel saying the condoms wouldn't fit.

They are pretty full of themselves though, was in 1001 in the early evening without an appointment and I literally was there 2 hours without anyone speaking to me. The girls avoid eye contact while walking past you to their next pointless line up.

Best sex this trip BTW, was a cute Balinese girl in Gion spa in Surabaya. That was just 90 minutes of non stop sex and making out for 775 k.

Las.

Yes, it costs more. Tips are fixed, and you'll pay a total of 610,000. If you sit near the women, it's no louder than in the second or fifth row. The women seem a bit older but certainly interesting.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;3001674]I have been in Jakarta off and on for the last couple of weeks and I would agree Classic and Travel are the best value. The mamasans at classic (2 and 5) do irritante me with them constantly pushing their girls and calling them over uninvited. I didn't experience travel being as bad.

For what it's worth, I like kota indah as well (but the last week of so it seems girls are being taken out of the bars in large numbers by East Asians. Not sure if this has to do with the golden week in those countries, but the Holiday Inn as well is just a coming and going of girls. More obvious then I typically see in Pattaya.

What emporium and 1001 is concerned, the entourage is up scale and the girls are presented really well (especially in 1001), but once in the room it is just a typical Indo girl, not that much different than the cheaper options. What service is concerned, Emporium had one of the best sessions I had and one of the worst I had; two decent sessions at 1001. Funily enough, the good one in emporium was the only session that required a rubber. Might be because the vivo's don't fit me. The last 1001 didn't even try and just reached for the gel saying the condoms wouldn't fit.

They are pretty full of themselves though, was in 1001 in the early evening without an appointment and I literally was there 2 hours without anyone speaking to me. The girls avoid eye contact while walking past you to their next pointless line up.

Best sex this trip BTW, was a cute Balinese girl in Gion spa in Surabaya. That was just 90 minutes of non stop sex and making out for 775 k.

Las.[/QUOTE]Respectfully this is about the most vague post I think I have ever read. "taken out of the bars in large numbers". What do you mean? For marriage or for long time?

How do you know the girls that come and go at Holiday Inn are coming from Kota Indah?.

Ok I am going to try and first interpret the rest and then translate it:

It seems your pre-planned or spontaneous on-the spot m. O. (method of operation) was that the vivo (local indo. Brand?) didn't fit?

Interesting if that is true?

1. One at Emporium required a rubber? So what happened? This girl did not buy into you saying "it doesn't fit?" So you had a covered BJ as well? She demanded you pull harder to get the condom on?

2. 1001, you didn't even try? Did you tell them in bahasa it doesn't fit or in english?

3. Sounds like the two at 1001 believed your story, "It does not fit"? And offered little resistance? Was there discussion of a tip?

4. why are lineups pointless?

5. I guess you can't have an appointment if you have never been?

All of this is important because of recent posts of CBJ's at these upper end establishments. This method or strategy shall now be coined "The johnnie Cochran method" (it doesnot fit; OJ).

In conclusion, sounds like 3 out of 4 were not insistent? What was the tip damage?

So I message my ATF (All Time Favourite & Any Time Fuck) and ask her to come she confirmed 4 pm. She had Eid festivities at home so could not come anytime earlier and was dilly dallying whole time, what crap. So decided to message another girl who I kept as a back up. This chick was returning from her hometown the same day and confirmed her presence by 3 pm and I was ok with it. I usually go for fit girls and athletic babes but this was completely the opposite. Chubby heavy curves and a full set but her face was rather cute and beautiful and she looked graceful from her photos. She shared her location and I was monitoring her movements throughout just to make sure she does not ghost me. She arrived in a bluebird taxi, nice atleast she wasn't looking to save money and wasn't one of those. She was wearing fashionable clothes and looked nice but was really heavy, decided to give it a try. She entered the room and wanted to take a shower and took her clothes off, boy o boy she was phenomenal and I got an instant hard on, started pumping her and she was so good. She was a pure delight and an amazing experience again. She had only 2 conditions no phone and no anal and I was like oh god, ok. While banging her doggie I started rimming her and fingered her anus and she was moaning constantly, small and unexplored. I decided to plug her ass and went for anal. She kept telling me tidak tidak, thank god I had the gel upon me and I used it smartly. Did her tight ass for a few minutes, she complained of pain so I withdrew. After kissing and cuddling I went for her pussy but strangely my tool entered her ass again possibly because of the gel. Banged her nicely for a long time and she was screaming with pain and then pleasure. Initially hesitant but after sometime asked me not to stop. She really loved the fucking, I finished nicely in her mouth. We had a great session, insisted on a shower and we ended with a great BBBJ. It was around 6 pm My ATF messaged me saying she is on her way. Even though this chick was to stay overnight I asked her to leave. Gave her the agreed amount I think 2. 5 went down had a coffee with her and she was off in her bluebird.

Later that evening she messaged me saying she was very happy with the whole thing but was upset she had to leave early, she was really looking forward to the evening: drinks and dinner arrangement. She wants me to fly her a weekend and promised me a great time, money is not discussed. Folks I am telling you if you treat these girls well they'll do anything for you.

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Emporium:

Arrived at 6:30 pm We were led into a large, elegant room with two large, long sofas (2 x approximately 10 m). There, about 20 women were sitting in long red dresses (VIP) and 20 women in short black dresses (standard). The mamasan explained the pricing structure: 90 minutes, including 30 minutes in the pool, and 60 minutes in the room. VIP a suite (1.950 million) and standard a standard room (1.45 million). I want to see, so I first have the 20 standard ladies come to my sofa. They all rise elegantly from their sofas and walk towards me; the clatter of their fine high heels is clearly audible. Then we all say Hello, in Indonesian. The 20 girls are introduced one after the other. I look at them for 2 minutes and let them go again. I do the same with the VIP ladies. The decision is clear: it has to be a VIP lady. I have three girls come to my sofa again and choose a 1.70 tall lady with white skin and long black hair from Bogor. She sits down next to me and we chat for a moment. Then I give my okay, and she gets her bag. We arrange to meet at the pool. I go to the changing room and change, waiting in the pool area full of anticipation. Then she comes in with her hair up. Her bikini which looks really great. We go into the much too hot pool, it really is too hot. She sits on top of me and starts to make out passionately. Yes, that's it! After 20 minutes I go for a shower, she does too and we go to the room. The room is dark and mirrored, there is a big bathtub and a toilet, everything is very elegant and posh. Then she is taken in four positions for about 20 minutes. Her pale skin drives me crazy. The service is first class, she gets involved in everything and holds up well. After that we talk for another 15 minutes, take a shower together and we soap each other up. Then we go to the locker together and she says goodbye, she doesn't beg for a tip because the tip is included in the price of 1.950 million. I get dressed and leave. At the cash register the information: 2 women VIP 2.9 million, 2 women standard 2. 5 million. The bill came to 1.911 million, for whatever reason, maybe I was good!

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3001969]What are you doing here? Are you answering a question asked on your PM? Third row, fifth row, older woman. What establishment are you talking about? Geez.[/QUOTE]Hello my new friend, I'm talking about the Classic 2nd floor and 5th floor, it's not any quieter there than on the first floor.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3001659]This is simply not true.

I just filled out the eVOA yesterday. It literally took me like 15 mins. Much easier to do on a laptop than on a phone tho that is true. I've done it on both. This time I didn't have any problem whatsoever with the fields messing up or having to start over. It is true it asks for 2 PDF documents. One is the itenerary of your onward flight which will already be in PDF format in the email you receive when you purchased your onward flight leaving Jakarta, the other is just the picture on your passport info page from the first field (the jpeg) turned into a PDF which I was able to do online on the Adobe acrobat website for free in another tab (literally like 2 mins to convert and download) then I went back to the other tab and selected the file and that was it. Super easy. After submitting the application for the eVOA it took me to the finpay page to pay the 500 IDR fee, this time it worked the first time with my capital one debit card and after making the payment I instantly received an email with my E-Visa inside good to go and says I can use the E-Gates..[/QUOTE]That's what I said: do it on a laptop, where you can open different windows and format pictures on the spot. But if you are on the road with one handphone: its a pain in the ass!

[QUOTE=AssGuru;3002001]So I message my ATF ...[/QUOTE]Bro, is this from your last trip or new trip? Looks like you had lot of fun.

Can't wait to go Jakarta in June.

After a string of negative experiences at Classic and KI and especially after reading Free Dudes positive report, I decided to try 1001 again. I had been told that between seven and eight would be the best time to come. When I got there at seven, I was a bit disappointed because there were only 40 girls.

The presentation is always flawless in 1001. Girls come to your couch and a strong spotlight illuminates faces and bodies so that you can see them really well.

Unfortunately, this time I didn't see a single girl I liked. They were all definitely doable, let's say 6 or 7, but not the beauty you would expect from a high class place like this. I decided to wait till 8 to see who else would show up and used the time to make friends with a guy from Singapore. He claimed to be a repeat customer and told me that in his experience about 70% of the girls insist on covered BJ. Well, this is not a risk I'm going to take again. Not for 1,8 juta.

At 8 o'clock, the situation had not changed a lot. There might have been 50 girls but definitely not the 100 I expected to see. I asked for a new contest and only found one single girl I liked. A nice, girl next door type, 7. After 5 or 10 minutes of friendly chitchat in Bahasa, I asked about BBBJ. She refused, I sent her back to the fish bowl and left the place.

Bro, I added to my report #20219, this is the 3rd day of my sex trip. Yeah man this is a beautiful place if you play smartly. I wish I can go back again, soon very soon.

[QUOTE=Pk099;3002055]Bro, is this from your last trip or new trip? Looks like you had lot of fun.

Can't wait to go Jakarta in June.[/QUOTE]

Bro, you report reaffirmed my belief that girls do not provide BBBJ at 1001 contrary to many positive reports here. I can't be the lone soul who left in disgust without trying a girl.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3002163]After a string of negative experiences at Classic and KI and especially after reading Free Dudes positive report, I decided to try 1001 again. I had been told that between seven and eight would be the best time to come. When I got there at seven, I was a bit disappointed because there were only 40 girls.

The presentation is always flawless in 1001. Girls come to your couch and a strong spotlight illuminates faces and bodies so that you can see them really well.

Unfortunately, this time I didn't see a single girl I liked. They were all definitely doable, let's say 6 or 7, but not the beauty you would expect from a high class place like this. I decided to wait till 8 to see who else would show up and used the time to make friends with a guy from Singapore. He claimed to be a repeat customer and told me that in his experience about 70% of the girls insist on covered BJ. Well, this is not a risk I'm going to take again. Not for 1,8 juta.

At 8 o'clock, the situation had not changed a lot. There might have been 50 girls but definitely not the 100 I expected to see. I asked for a new contest and only found one single girl I liked. A nice, girl next door type, 7. After 5 or 10 minutes of friendly chitchat in Bahasa, I asked about BBBJ. She refused, I sent her back to the fish bowl and left the place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3002170]Bro, you report reaffirmed my belief that girls do not provide BBBJ at 1001 contrary to many positive reports here. I can't be the lone soul who left in disgust without trying a girl.[/QUOTE]From my limited one time experience at 1001, I also had CBJ. Mistake of not confirming service with the girl before taking her.

The girl is super hot and works tirelessly to make me cum.

Because she insisted on CBJ so I tried to hold to the end of the time allowed: the.

Information about Classic: Opening hours: 1st floor until 3 am Best time to come I think from 9 pm, 2nd floor until 2 am Best time to come I think 6:30 pm, 5th floor until 4 am Best time to come 9 pm.

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I've had a terrible time on ISG last 24 hours. Is the server acting up? Database error, backing up data screen shows consistently. Frustrating.

Wow this Malio, 1001, Emporium cloudiness of CBJ is really a bummer. A bummer that a consensus can't be reached on this board. It is a big deal because the damage is.

Over 1 million at these places.

You learn what and what not to do only by stepping in the shit.

Last night at term 2 this brasnd new girl was brought to me. SHe was so new she was literally shaking with nervousness.

I asked her if she likes kissing because a poster on this thread said that he always does that. I thought it was a good idea.

She sais, "I have to go ask"?

She goes back to her sofa and I'm watching her talk to mother hen. Mother hen is giving her / teaching her on the fly. Mother hen was ugly as fuck, should be selling mangos on the street.

What an idiot I am. That new girl stayed glued to the sofa and did not come back to my table. I don't know which way to go on this?

If she doesn't kiss, you know its likely she doesn't suck, right? For a paltry 375 maybe its better to not say anything controversial.

But malio 101 emporium most definitely ill have a desires-chat with her, the mood of the situation be damned.

I could rig up my dishwasher at home for a covered blowjob and not even leave home. You that are in tight with David at Emporium could ask him if the Government has told emporium that your permit is contingent on requiring covered blow jobs.

The girl has nothing to work for. All-inclusive tip? She thinks she's hot and she knows it. There are some outliers, the tom cruises on this board that have incredible stories that are probably genuine.

Others such as this recent post, I saw holes in the story right away. It sucks because it provides hope to lay down 2 million, for a quality girl.

2 million to swim with a girl with covered blow job is just that, a swim with a girl.

At this rate you'd be better off getting off at matraman station, and translating to the motobike, "where are the girls?

[QUOTE=Joe2422;3002024]Emporium:

Arrived at 6:30 pm We were led into a large, elegant room with two large, long sofas (2 x approximately 10 m). There, about 20 women were sitting in long red dresses (VIP) and 20 women in short black dresses (standard). The mamasan explained the pricing structure: 90 minutes, including 30 minutes in the pool, and 60 minutes in the room. VIP a suite (1.950 million) and standard a standard room (1.45 million). I want to see, so I first have the 20 standard ladies come to my sofa. They all rise elegantly from their sofas and walk towards me; the clatter of their fine high heels is clearly audible. Then we all say Hello, in Indonesian. The 20 girls are introduced one after the other. I look at them for 2 minutes and let them go again. I do the same with the VIP ladies. The decision is clear: it has to be a VIP lady. I have three girls come to my sofa again and choose a 1.70 tall lady with white skin and long black hair from Bogor. She sits down next to me and we chat for a moment. Then I give my okay, and she gets her bag. We arrange to meet at the pool. I go to the changing room and change, waiting in the pool area full of anticipation. Then she comes in with her hair up. Her bikini which looks really great. We go into the much too hot pool, it really is too hot. She sits on top of me and starts to make out passionately. Yes, that's it! After 20 minutes I go for a shower, she does too and we go to the room. The room is dark and mirrored, there is a big bathtub and a toilet, everything is very elegant and posh. Then she is taken in four positions for about 20 minutes. Her pale skin drives me crazy.[/QUOTE]I don't know this sounds so clinical, regimented, safe, disinfected, high chlorine content in the pool. Like being in a doctors office. Any covered kisses going on?

I'm begging for a real story here like motobiking down tubagus angke, having to dodge the ladyboys who want to wrestle the keys from your driver, and finally ending up at.

New Merdika Dan Mogot where your hard work and sweat pays off with a sweet little thing.

One more thing:

When I complained to Ginny, the mamasan at 1001, about the flashing lights in the room, she told me they are supposed to start flashing after 45 minutes already! I feel this is way too early and it bothered me a lot.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3001472]That's strange. When I was staying at the hotel they had what looked like posters in bahasa listing the fee per week / month by the gym.[/QUOTE]This morning I asked again if people from outside the hotel could use the gym. I was told again that they couldn't. But then I asked: what if they paid? Yes, in this case they can.

Imagine eye rolling emoji here.

A day pass is 120 k, a 1 month membership 850 k.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3002340]This morning I asked again if people from outside the hotel could use the gym. I was told again that they couldn't. But then I asked: what if they paid? Yes, in this case they can.

Imagine eye rolling emoji here.
[/QUOTE]LOL. That is almost too funny. I think I would have burst out laughing in your place.

Gonorrhea from the blowjob is like likely than winning the lottery.

But even if you did. Which you didn't. You and your fake friend could walk to your nearest pharmacy and pay about $3 for 2 grams of Azithromycin and in 24 hours it would be gone.

Condoms should be outlawed completely! Use birth control. Condoms and no tongue kissing make the human immune system weak!

1,000's of women, no condoms, no problems that $3 hasn't fixed!

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;3000504]I go to train tracks 3 times hopping find the gem I meet the first time here, and never found the girl again.

The only young one I found refused me, the other ones don't feel so enthusiast compare to the first time.

Has something happen? Has someone goes here and do shit?

After 3 times it's not a coincidence.[/QUOTE]That place is not safe. For those of you who think it is safe, you must come from some dirty slums! Dirt floors, cockroaches and rats crawling everywhere! No AC. No running water, only splashing to clean! You guys need help not to mention the other problems there!

You go thru to extend a simple VOA. It turned out to be easier than the preparation, computer work, converting files that you go thru with an E-VOA.

With 4 days to go before my first 30 days expired I knew I had to make a move. 15000 rupiah motobike away from classic was kemayoran Imigrassi on jalan merpati.

They close at 4 pm. My first words were "I'm so confused". This turned out to be my "ticket". Because after I said this they took me in a room.

And they did all the work!

I sat there and watched them do all the work on their phones. It took 30 minutes, and you do not need to go back.

You pay 500000 rupiah same day at indomart.

If I saw this post on here it would have saved stress. Reducing stress in Jakarta is paramount!

[QUOTE=Safado70;3002333]One more thing:

When I complained to Ginny, the mamasan at 1001, about the flashing lights in the room, she told me they are supposed to start flashing after 45 minutes already! I feel this is way too early and it bothered me a lot.[/QUOTE]Wow all this is starting to come out. Hadn't read this before. This must be their new gimmick. They must have thought it was cute? A definite boner ender. I say membership boycotts.

This place. At ther very least it would determine if members here have any pull.

Some information about Classic Spa which is located in the basement:

Before 4 pm, it is massage only, you can't really choose the girl unless you know her name. At 1 pm it was just one girl, maybe 30 yo with a great body.

The massage was excellent, I really recommend the girl, her name is Tania (n°7), she also makes shiatsu without destroying your body, HJ available (witch I declined).

If you want to tip, you pay it in cash in the front desk, not directly to the girl (its a spa, you don't have your clothes and money with you), for just a massage pay 50 k or 100 k, don't ruin the game like in Bali. 400 k for the massage.

After 4 pm, the girls for sex start to arrive, they sit in the sofa and you can choose them. Last time I take a girl, she doesn't do massage, just sex.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;3002494]Some information about Classic Spa which is located in the basement:

Before 4 pm, it is massage only, you can't really choose the girl unless you know her name. At 1 pm it was just one girl, maybe 30 yo with a great body.

The massage was excellent, I really recommend the girl, her name is Tania (n7), she also makes shiatsu without destroying your body, HJ available (witch I declined).

If you want to tip, you pay it in cash in the front desk, not directly to the girl (its a spa, you don't have your clothes and money with you), for just a massage pay 50 k or 100 k, don't ruin the game like in Bali. 400 k for the massage.

After 4 pm, the girls for sex start to arrive, they sit in the sofa and you can choose them. Last time I take a girl, she doesn't do massage, just sex.[/QUOTE]I say this as civil, courteous as possible. Is the massage 50 k, 100 k, or 400 k? After 4 pm how much is short time. I am going to make an observation here. Do posters read.

Their own posts? I believe a fairly large proportion of posters here have grammatical difficulties, have difficulties conveying their thoughts. That is a fact. You see it here. Why would you state the.

Price for massage with three different numbers and then not state the price for sex?

[QUOTE=Safado70;3002333]One more thing:

When I complained to Ginny, the mamasan at 1001, about the flashing lights in the room, she told me they are supposed to start flashing after 45 minutes already! I feel this is way too early and it bothered me a lot.[/QUOTE]I took the advise of another member here and started a watch in front of the cleaning crew. That stopped the early phone call at classic. I think it will work anywhere if you show them that.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3002537]I took the advise of another member here and started a watch in front of the cleaning crew. That stopped the early phone call at classic. I think it will work anywhere if you show them that.[/QUOTE]I never had a problem at classic. I once even spent 80 minutes with a girl in the room because they completely forgot us.

But 1001 is different. The way the mamasan put it the lights are supposed to flash after 45 minutes. I think she said "the system is programmed like that". In this case showing the watch to the personnel wouldn't change a thing.

I was in Jakarta for a total of about 7 days. Started in Jakarta and ended there over 3 weeks. The first 4 days was half spend with a "girlfriend" I found off one of the apps, can't remember which. I was on Badoo, bumble, tinder, and used Seeking. Seeking was the most responsive and successful. Met a seeking girl on my first day and ended my trip with her! She was cool, tiny, and spoke perfect English! Seeking girls wanted anywhere from $100 up to 200 and over for short time. Some seemed okay overnight but rate and I don't do overnights.

The "girlfriend" spoke good English and looked better than the seeking girl. She never asked for money up front but asked for materialistic stuff such as paying for nails and hair treatment. She was adverse to western food so we ate a lot of local cheap food! Cost still low and worth the initial investment. Eventually she said she got a job and needed money to move to Bandung and required about $20 k usd up front for housing and food. I cut it off there. She didn't like that I followed her Instagram friend! Don't want all that money going to someone else!

I went to Classic on my second to last afternoon and had a threesome which was not as good as I had imagined! One girl was awesome and did everything ask of her, the other was timid, not shy, but seemed she was newer and didn't know what to do or hesitant. Didn't stay long and only had one day to checkout. I didn't have a chance to see some of the other locations but would love to return and check them out. Thought classic was interesting and as I was leaving the new girls walked past me, I almost returned!

My trip included visits to a few other cities including Bali so at times it was hard to monger between sightseeing and such. I do love Jakarta for all its craziness but the experience at classic is something to be experienced for it's value!

My trip often ended up talking with a lot of the local girls. I think day game wouldn't be too hard. More often than not I was with another girl so I could not pursue. I'm an older, Asian, fat guy but that didn't stop them from talking. It's probably a mix of opportunity (money / leaving to another country) someone different or exotic (even though I'm Asian), and boredom!

Here are two good restaurants to recharge your batteries or why not bring your "girlfriend".

Casa Cuomo, south Jakarta, apparently one of the 50 best italien restaurant in the world. I recommend their beef carpaccio and fondant of chocolat.

Tugu Kunstkring Paleis, central Jakarta, international cuisine. You feel like a dutchman from ancient times.

[QUOTE=Marxh;3002828]
My trip often ended up talking with a lot of the local girls. I think day game wouldn't be too hard. More often than not I was with another girl so I could not pursue. I'm an older, Asian, fat guy but that didn't stop them from talking. It's probably a mix of opportunity (money / leaving to another country) someone different or exotic (even though I'm Asian), and boredom![/QUOTE]Talking with local girls is the best thing we can do, even if it's hard or impossible to have sex with them.

Classic or KI girls are not normal girls, they always are about money (even if with time we can find a good girl here, its difficult) and its not good for mind to frequent these girls everyday.

Sometimes, I need to talk to a normal, fresh and innocent (or maybe virgin, LOL) girl. They are genuinely interested in talking to you, discovering you.

I suppose, most of us here like women, and it's a good thing to frequent a "normal" woman.

All is in the title.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;3002984]All is in the title.[/QUOTE]Which venue is that in the picture with green walls. Looks like an upgraded train tracks room. I am interested.

MM.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3002349]LOL. That is almost too funny. I think I would have burst out laughing in your place.[/QUOTE]Does your chef girl have a small scar on her right breast? If yes, we're Eskimo brother!

To the person asking about gym.

Open Google maps type gym near your area or bigger jabotabek.

Fithub is the budget monthly.

Ftl gym is higher monthly 24 hrs.

They have wa number you can message.

Many other no brand local gyms available in Google maps search.

Verified these have girls but I got there early 7 pm.

Need to visit after 9 pm.

350 k 1 HR.

Honey Massage, this one little away unable to edit in phone browser.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/BoZ5ETaEGoukGGSr9[/URL]

Next lane near new medika.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/mNh9SzUC9i6o2W188[/URL]

Wijaya 77 Karaoke & Bar.

Cahaya Arwana.

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3003332]Verified these have girls but I got there early 7 pm.

Need to visit after 9 pm.

350 k 1 HR.

Honey Massage, this one little away unable to edit in phone browser.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/BoZ5ETaEGoukGGSr9[/URL]
[/QUOTE]How was the girls of Honey Massage?

Age? Quality? Attitude?

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3003328]To the person asking about gym.

Open Google maps type gym near your area or bigger jabotabek.

Fithub is the budget monthly.

Ftl gym is higher monthly 24 hrs.

They have wa number you can message.

Many other no brand local gyms available in Google maps search.[/QUOTE]I hope gym works better than coffee shops or pharmacies in google maps. It was utterly hopeless for me in the area around redtop hotel / classic. One time a girl who was to shy to meet me at the hotel coffee shop, and I, even walked into what appeared to be someone's apartment at the ground floor while following google maps near Redtop.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3003245]Does your chef girl have a small scar on her right breast? If yes, we're Eskimo brother![/QUOTE]Not that I can see.

I hope you have no relation to another user here who also had 6969 (or similar) in this username?

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3003486]Not that I can see.

I hope you have no relation to another user here who also had 6969 (or similar) in this username?[/QUOTE]We're NOT Eskimo brother, bummer!

I don't know who the other person is.

I got this spa name Lamaroca from somewhere not sure which forum and has saved them on my insta, it has some kinky reels as well.

Anyone been there and can share what is available with the cost etc.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3003536]We're NOT Eskimo brother, bummer!
[/QUOTE]Well, send your girl over and your wish will come true. Bummer no more. ;-)

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3003604]Well, send your girl over and your wish will come true. Bummer no more. ;-)[/QUOTE]Trade info on the girls?

I've decided that I'm not going anywhere; (semicolons are good to use they separate two different thoughts) having sex in Jakarta and arguing with gabacho is too much fun. It has become addictive.

And I now enjoy waking up planning how I can out-wit him. He seems to be no match for me as far as wits go, its like having rap match between white boys. Besides, why bow out to the infidels.

Ramblings from the last week:

1. Both myu credit cards have been canceled due to fraudulent charges. The first card, navy federal went under, because, I believe, I linked it to grab. Now I was down to schwabb for survival.

Schwabb was the next toi go down. HAPPENED when I attempted to send the card numbere thru an email (I know stupid me) to that ***** white woman FLO of progressive insurance.

Howe can a thief get inside your email?

Next stupid move? I alerted schwabb of the fraud before I had gone to the ATM to take out money to survive. I ended up in a phone call saying, "I am begging you to keep the card.

Open for one hour so I can take out funds? They would not oblige; they actually cancelled the card during the phone call. I caslled her a *****; I have an intense hatred for white woman.

NoT from China, vietnam, Japan, south Korea. LESSON. TAKE OUT FUNDS BEFORE YOU REPORT FRAUD! Become a cash-man like me. On reflection now, from what I know, using your credit card to pay.

Classic or any other sex spot would not be a very bright idea.

2. Nervous, shaking girl that went over to mother hen at classic for further instruction after I asked her if she likes kissing has not returned; must have decided a kiss is just too much, and.

Reverted back to whatever it is she does. IT is of note she came off the couch that is closest to the pool tables; where ugly hangers oners over-the-hill mother figures also sit.

3. Planning my night I started to think that creating these package night outs would be a good idea on this forum. What exactly would this look like?

Example: On this night out from Classic I took a motobike to VN Spa. Complicated menu; I don't come to Jakarta for restaurant type menus at a spa. I was continuously telling staff there" I want to see the ladies" Soon after I was out the front door.

Walking distance away was Zaigon spa. Another miss. Photos from a phone. If the girl in on premises why do I have to look at a picture on a phone? Soon after I wass out the front door. Night concluded at travel and lokisari.

OK? ALL HANDS ON DECK ON THIS THREAD. Somerone step up to the plate and create a be-fashion night-out so you can knock out out 4-5 establishments in this area. How about a taman angrek.

Package night out? I hear that name on this thread; are there venues there? . I think everyone here catches my drift here, right? Pick an area that has half a dozen establishments in that area.

And author our-night-out. Who wants to contibute?

2.

I've decided that I'm not going anywhere; (semicolons are good to use they separate two different thoughts) having sex in Jakarta and arguing with gabacho is too much fun. It has become addictive.

And I now enjoy waking up planning how I can out-wit him. He seems to be no match for me as far as wits go, its like having rap match between white boys. Besides, why bow out to the infidels.

Ramblings from the last week:

1. Both myu credit cards have been canceled due to fraudulent charges. The first card, navy federal went under, because, I believe, I linked it to grab. Now I was down to schwabb for survival.

Schwabb was the next toi go down. HAPPENED when I attempted to send the card numbere thru an email (I know stupid me) to that ***** white woman FLO of progressive insurance.

Howe can a thief get inside your email?

Next stupid move? I alerted schwabb of the fraud before I had gone to the ATM to take out money to survive. I ended up in a phone call saying, "I am begging you to keep the card.

Open for one hour so I can take out funds? They would not oblige; they actually cancelled the card during the phone call. I caslled her a *****; I have an intense hatred for white woman.

NoT from China, vietnam, Japan, south Korea. LESSON. TAKE OUT FUNDS BEFORE YOU REPORT FRAUD! Become a cash-man like me. On reflection now, from what I know, using your credit card to pay.

Classic or any other sex spot would not be a very bright idea.

2. Nervous, shaking girl that went over to mother hen at classic for further instruction after I asked her if she likes kissing has not returned; must have decided a kiss is just too much, and.

Reverted back to whatever it is she does. IT is of note she came off the couch that is closest to the pool tables; where ugly hangers oners over-the-hill mother figures also sit.

3. Planning my night I started to think that creating these package night outs would be a good idea on this forum. What exactly would this look like?

Example: On this night out from Classic I took a motobike to VN Spa. Complicated menu; I don't come to Jakarta for restaurant type menus at a spa. I was continuously telling staff there" I want to see the ladies" Soon after I was out the front door.

Walking distance away was Zaigon spa. Another miss. Photos from a phone. If the girl in on premises why do I have to look at a picture on a phone? Soon after I wass out the front door. Night concluded at travel and lokisari.

OK? ALL HANDS ON DECK ON THIS THREAD. Somerone step up to the plate and create a be-fashion night-out so you can knock out out 4-5 establishments in this area. How about a taman angrek.

Package night out? I hear that name on this thread; are there venues there? . I think everyone here catches my drift here, right? Pick an area that has half a dozen establishments in that area.

And author our-night-out. Who wants to contibute?

GETTING THIS DATABASE ERROR ON THIS SITE CONTINUOUSLY ON THIS SITE. HOW FUCKING ANNOYING can't EVEN UPLOAD A POST. HOW ABOUT TAKING MY MEMBERSHIP FEE AND BUYING NEW SERVERS. JUST A SUGGESTION.

I've decided that I'm not going anywhere; (semicolons are good to use they separate two different thoughts) having sex in Jakarta and arguing with gabacho is too much fun. It has become addictive.

And I now enjoy waking up planning how I can out-wit him. He seems to be no match for me as far as wits go, its like having rap match between white boys. Besides, why bow out to the infidels.

Ramblings from the last week:

1. Both myu credit cards have been canceled due to fraudulent charges. The first card, navy federal went under, because, I believe, I linked it to grab. Now I was down to schwabb for survival.

Schwabb was the next toi go down. HAPPENED when I attempted to send the card numbere thru an email (I know stupid me) to that ***** white woman FLO of progressive insurance.

Howe can a thief get inside your email?

Next stupid move? I alerted schwabb of the fraud before I had gone to the ATM to take out money to survive. I ended up in a phone call saying, "I am begging you to keep the card.

Open for one hour so I can take out funds? They would not oblige; they actually cancelled the card during the phone call. I caslled her a *****; I have an intense hatred for white woman.

NoT from China, vietnam, Japan, south Korea. LESSON. TAKE OUT FUNDS BEFORE YOU REPORT FRAUD! Become a cash-man like me. On reflection now, from what I know, using your credit card to pay.

Classic or any other sex spot would not be a very bright idea.

2. Nervous, shaking girl that went over to mother hen at classic for further instruction after I asked her if she likes kissing has not returned; must have decided a kiss is just too much, and.

Reverted back to whatever it is she does. IT is of note she came off the couch that is closest to the pool tables; where ugly hangers oners over-the-hill mother figures also sit.

3. Planning my night I started to think that creating these package night outs would be a good idea on this forum. What exactly would this look like?

Example: On this night out from Classic I took a motobike to VN Spa. Complicated menu; I don't come to Jakarta for restaurant type menus at a spa. I was continuously telling staff there" I want to see the ladies" Soon after I was out the front door.

Walking distance away was Zaigon spa. Another miss. Photos from a phone. If the girl in on premises why do I have to look at a picture on a phone? Soon after I wass out the front door. Night concluded at travel and lokisari.

OK? ALL HANDS ON DECK ON THIS THREAD. Somerone step up to the plate and create a be-fashion night-out so you can knock out out 4-5 establishments in this area. How about a taman angrek.

Package night out? I hear that name on this thread; are there venues there? . I think everyone here catches my drift here, right? Pick an area that has half a dozen establishments in that area.

And author our-night-out. Who wants to contibute?

GETTING THIS DATABASE ERROR ON THIS SITE CONTINUOUSLY ON THIS SITE. HOW FUCKING ANNOYING can't EVEN UPLOAD A POST. HOW ABOUT TAKING MY MEMBERSHIP FEE AND BUYING NEW SERVERS. JUST A SUGGESTION. THE INTERNATIONALSEXGUIDE DATABASE HAS ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM.

I've decided that I'm not going anywhere; (semicolons are good to use they separate two different thoughts) having sex in Jakarta and arguing with gabacho is too much fun. It has become addictive.

And I now enjoy waking up planning how I can out-wit him. He seems to be no match for me as far as wits go, its like having rap match between white boys. Besides, why bow out to the infidels.

Ramblings from the last week:

1. Both myu credit cards have been canceled due to fraudulent charges. The first card, navy federal went under, because, I believe, I linked it to grab. Now I was down to schwabb for survival.

Schwabb was the next toi go down. HAPPENED when I attempted to send the card numbere thru an email (I know stupid me) to that ***** white woman FLO of progressive insurance.

Howe can a thief get inside your email?

Next stupid move? I alerted schwabb of the fraud before I had gone to the ATM to take out money to survive. I ended up in a phone call saying, "I am begging you to keep the card.

Open for one hour so I can take out funds? They would not oblige; they actually cancelled the card during the phone call. I caslled her a *****; I have an intense hatred for white woman.

NoT from China, vietnam, Japan, south Korea. LESSON. TAKE OUT FUNDS BEFORE YOU REPORT FRAUD! Become a cash-man like me. On reflection now, from what I know, using your credit card to pay.

Classic or any other sex spot would not be a very bright idea.

2. Nervous, shaking girl that went over to mother hen at classic for further instruction after I asked her if she likes kissing has not returned; must have decided a kiss is just too much, and.

Reverted back to whatever it is she does. IT is of note she came off the couch that is closest to the pool tables; where ugly hangers oners over-the-hill mother figures also sit.

3. Planning my night I started to think that creating these package night outs would be a good idea on this forum. What exactly would this look like?

Example: On this night out from Classic I took a motobike to VN Spa. Complicated menu; I don't come to Jakarta for restaurant type menus at a spa. I was continuously telling staff there" I want to see the ladies" Soon after I was out the front door.

Walking distance away was Zaigon spa. Another miss. Photos from a phone. If the girl in on premises why do I have to look at a picture on a phone? Soon after I wass out the front door. Night concluded at travel and lokisari.

OK? ALL HANDS ON DECK ON THIS THREAD. Somerone step up to the plate and create a be-fashion night-out so you can knock out out 4-5 establishments in this area. How about a taman angrek.

Package night out? I hear that name on this thread; are there venues there? . I think everyone here catches my drift here, right? Pick an area that has half a dozen establishments in that area.

And author our-night-out. Who wants to contibute?

GETTING THIS DATABASE ERROR ON THIS SITE CONTINUOUSLY ON THIS SITE. HOW FUCKING ANNOYING can't EVEN UPLOAD A POST. HOW ABOUT TAKING MY MEMBERSHIP FEE AND BUYING NEW SERVERS. JUST A SUGGESTION. THE INTERNATIONALSEXGUIDE DATABASE HAS ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM. RATHER THAN GABACHO I WILL BE FORCED OFF THIS SIGHT DUE TO SOFTWARE PROBLEMS.

I HAVE since I came to Jakarta been looking for the THAIFRIENDLY equivalent here. It hass become expensive. BADOO is worthless. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO THRU THEIR GIRLS AGAIN.

Say you changed your photo and want to go thru the girls again? You might have missed a girl right? You are not allowed. Its called encounters. And once you go thru encounters once you are done.

They also have "nearby". These girls you cannot swipe. You have to pay extra even though you already have paid membership. Pure bullshit.

Ok and what about INDONESIACUPID? THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT ANYWHERE ALL THEIR GIRS WERE LAST ACTIVE 12 MONTHS AGO. FUCK YOU Australia. I ASKED FOR REFUND, NOONE HAS EVER ANSWERED ME. Oops, capital leathers. My bad.

So this morning coffee shop, Classic hotel after my wake-up boner, I got a spontaneous boner (I think the pesticides in my body are waning from my body and I'm getting some functionality back downstairs; plus walking the emerrgency stairs classic hotel in the morning has helped rid the pesticides thru sweat; sweat is the bodies greatest detoxifier).

From looking at these beautiful Jakarta girls on tan tan. That is right! So far TAN TAN girls are causing me spontaneous boners! And get this. They are messaging me back!

More on this later.

MICHAT OR WECHAT? Very little has ever been written about these two avenues anywhere. I think OS is the only one with guts and moxy to have ever attempted it I don't know?

So if I relax, don't be so abrasive toward other members will I get some cooperation around here, have my questions answered?

On MICHAT AND WECHAT do you only rely on "people nearby" discovery function? Or is there a searchbox on both sites that you can type into and if so what do you type?

If I make it this far then I have base-camp part of the op figured out. It would be in an area called TEBET in SJakarta in streets nicknamed Vagina street by the locals. Here apparently, unverified, are many boarding houses of hookers. Thoughts, Thoughts anyone. Totally stoked on this TAN TAN development.

I HAVE since I came to Jakarta been looking for the THAIFRIENDLY equivalent here. It hass become expensive. BADOO is worthless. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO THRU THEIR GIRLS AGAIN.

Say you changed your photo and want to go thru the girls again? You might have missed a girl right? You are not allowed. Its called encounters. And once you go thru encounters once you are done.

They also have "nearby". These girls you cannot swipe. You have to pay extra even though you already have paid membership. Pure bullshit.

Ok and what about INDONESIACUPID? THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT ANYWHERE ALL THEIR GIRS WERE LAST ACTIVE 12 MONTHS AGO. FUCK YOU Australia. I ASKED FOR REFUND, NOONE HAS EVER ANSWERED ME. Oops, capital leathers. My bad.

So this morning coffee shop, Classic hotel after my wake-up boner, I got a spontaneous boner (I think the pesticides in my body are waning from my body and I'm getting some functionality back downstairs; plus walking the emerrgency stairs classic hotel in the morning has helped rid the pesticides thru sweat; sweat is the bodies greatest detoxifier).

From looking at these beautiful Jakarta girls on tan tan. That is right! So far TAN TAN girls are causing me spontaneous boners! And get this. They are messaging me back!

More on this later.

MICHAT OR WECHAT? Very little has ever been written about these two avenues anywhere. I think OS is the only one with guts and moxy to have ever attempted it I don't know?

So if I relax, don't be so abrasive toward other members will I get some cooperation around here, have my questions answered?

On MICHAT AND WECHAT do you only rely on "people nearby" discovery function? Or is there a searchbox on both sites that you can type into and if so what do you type?

If I make it this far then I have base-camp part of the op figured out. It would be in an area called TEBET in SJakarta in streets nicknamed Vagina street by the locals. Here apparently, unverified, are many boarding houses of hookers. Thoughts, Thoughts anyone. Totally stoked on this TAN TAN development, these photosd are hot and have woken up my sleeping member this morning. . its too good to ber true, I know there fake. Gotto get them to whatsapp for a video call right?

Just landed last night after a 17 hour flight to Singapore and a 2 hour layover and then a 01:45 hour flight into Jakarta. I had my EVOA and customs forms already on my phone and ready to go. I noticed a lot of people were off to the side getting their paper VOAs. There were 3 different spots along the way to immigration to do the VOA the first one was packed with people and the second one had less people and the third one even less. It took me 13 minutes to walk to the immigration area (using the electric sidewalk) the signs actually tell you how many minutes it is. Once I got up there I went to an E-gate and had to put my passport face down on the scanner and it took about 10 seconds and then said thank you and the two little doors opened up and that was it. I then received an email telling me my stay has been initiated. Smoothest process at any immigration I have ever been to. Waiting for my luggage actually took way longer (about 20 minutes) but once I got my suitcase I was good to go. I went straight up to customs with the customs form QR code on my phone and the guy scanned it and let me through. I skipped the IMEI registration thing because I have a hot spot box that I use with a Telkomsel sim card. I went up to level 3 or 4 (can't remember which) and found some ATMS and pulled out some Uong. I then went back outside and ordered a Gojek car thru the wifi and was on my way to my spot I always stay at in Pasar Baru.

I got checked in by 1 am and took a quick shower and popped 10 MG of Cialis and was on my way walking to classic and got there just before 2 am. It was fucking dead in there in terminal 2. Only 15 - 20 girls on the couches and a bunch of old dudes sitting around on the couches too. One of the mamasans from last year (Mama Oma) recognized me and came to greet me and presented a couple of her girls. I chose the best looking of the ones there. 20 year old (supposedly but I think more like 25) Mega from Bandung. She said she was Sundanese and did have paler skin than the other ones. She was fun and a decent fuck. She let me open mouth kiss her right in front of Oma and the other girls and old dudes so I took that as a good sign. In the room I got her to strip naked and lay on the edge of the bed and I did DATY without letting her wash first. I then lubed up Mr Blanquito with some Swiss Navy Silicone lubricant I brought with me from the states and got on top of her and just stuck my dick in raw without even asking if I could or how much extra. She didn't resist at all and even started fake moaning so I interpreted that as consent. I pounded the fuck out of her for about 12 minutes in pile driver and then released my load inside her nice warm vagina. She smiled at me and asked "Sudah?" and I was like iyah, terima kasih sayang. We then both showered together and I forgot how to say towel so I grabbed the towel and was like "ini nama?" and she replied "handuk" then I remembered LOL. After the shower I asked for the blowjob I never got and she gave an okay blowjob but nothing to write home to mom about. Mr. Blanquito then got aroused again and was as hard as petrified wood, I guess that 10 MG tadalafil kicked in good. So I stuck it in her again and pumped out another creamy nut inside her. This time my handphone said 2:37 after I came, so I felt like I got my money worth.

I then got a selfie with her and offered her 100 k tip for the bareback sex and she made a sad face and said lagi satu then I tried to give her a 20 k but she made an even sadder face so I just gave her an extra 50 k and she smiled and said terima kasih. So that's 150 k total tip for 2 rounds bbfscip for the guys who are always asking how much tip for bareback. Total price paid was 365 k plus 150 k plus 5 k entrance fee, so 520 k Indonesian Rupiah or $31.48 USD.

I then had some Ayam Goreng and a Bintang beer in the coffeeshop and got home around 4 am.

I know there's a million posts on Classic but I just felt compelled to share this experience with the fellas who appreciate a good report. This was the best first session I have ever had and also the best welcoming at immigration I've ever had also.

Today I fucked one Lokasari girl for 300 k BBFS plus 110 k for the room and then I also fucked two civvies I got from my girlfriend and then took her out for lunch too. I pretty much hung out on Mangga Besar all day. I might hit up classic again later on tonight tho.

-Gabacho.

Just landed last night after a 17 hour flight to Singapore and a 2 hour layover and then a 01:45 hour flight into Jakarta. I had my EVOA and customs forms already on my phone and ready to go. I noticed a lot of people were off to the side getting their paper VOAs. There were 3 different spots along the way to immigration to do the VOA the first one was packed with people and the second one had less people and the third one even less. It took me 13 minutes to walk to the immigration area (using the electric sidewalk) the signs actually tell you how many minutes it is. Once I got up there I went to an E-gate and had to put my passport face down on the scanner and it took about 10 seconds and then said thank you and the two little doors opened up and that was it. I then received an email telling me my stay has been initiated. Smoothest process at any immigration I have ever been to. Waiting for my luggage actually took way longer (about 20 minutes) but once I got my suitcase I was good to go. I went straight up to customs with the customs form QR code on my phone and the guy scanned it and let me through. I skipped the IMEI registration thing because I have a hot spot box that I use with a Telkomsel sim card. I went up to level 3 or 4 (can't remember which) and found some ATMS and pulled out some Uong. I then went back outside and ordered a Gojek car thru the wifi and was on my way to my spot I always stay at in Pasar Baru.

I got checked in by 1 am and took a quick shower and popped 10 MG of Cialis and was on my way walking to classic and got there just before 2 am. It was fucking dead in there in terminal 2. Only 15 - 20 girls on the couches and a bunch of old dudes sitting around on the couches too. One of the mamasans from last year (Mama Oma) recognized me and came to greet me and presented a couple of her girls. I chose the best looking of the ones there. 20 year old (supposedly but I think more like 25) Mega from Bandung. She said she was Sundanese and did have paler skin than the other ones. She was fun and a decent fuck. She let me open mouth kiss her right in front of Oma and the other girls and old dudes so I took that as a good sign. In the room I got her to strip naked and lay on the edge of the bed and I did DATY without letting her wash first. I then lubed up Mr Blanquito with some Swiss Navy Silicone lubricant I brought with me from the states and got on top of her and just stuck my dick in raw without even asking if I could or how much extra. She didn't resist at all and even started fake moaning so I interpreted that as consent. I pounded the fuck out of her for about 12 minutes in pile driver and then released my load inside her nice warm vagina. She smiled at me and asked "Sudah?" and I was like iyah, terima kasih sayang. We then both showered together and I forgot how to say towel so I grabbed the towel and was like "ini nama?" and she replied "handuk" then I remembered LOL. After the shower I asked for the blowjob I never got and she gave an okay blowjob but nothing to write home to mom about. Mr. Blanquito then got aroused again and was as hard as petrified wood, I guess that 10 MG tadalafil kicked in good. So I stuck it in her again and pumped out another creamy nut inside her. This time my handphone said 2:37 after I came, so I felt like I got my money worth.

I then got a selfie with her and offered her 100 k tip for the bareback sex and she made a sad face and said lagi satu then I tried to give her a 20 k but she made an even sadder face so I just gave her an extra 50 k and she smiled and said terima kasih. So that's 150 k total tip for 2 rounds bbfscip for the guys who are always asking how much tip for bareback. Total price paid was 365 k plus 150 k plus 5 k entrance fee, so 520 k Indonesian Rupiah or $31.48 USD.

I then had some Ayam Goreng and a Bintang beer in the coffeeshop and got home around 4 am.

I know there's a million posts on Classic but I just felt compelled to share this experience with the fellas who appreciate a good report. This was the best first session I have ever had and also the best welcoming at immigration I've ever had also.

Today I fucked one Lokasari girl for 300 k BBFS plus 110 k for the room and then I also fucked two civvies I got from my girlfriend and then took her out for lunch too. I pretty much hung out on Mangga Besar all day. I might hit up classic again later on tonight tho.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3003625]Trade info on the girls?[/QUOTE]Naah, sorry. "My" girl is just a normal non-p4p girl, so I'm not really in a position to be pimping her out. Had she been doing p4p I wouldn't have minded hooking up a decent enough brother, but alas.

Welcome back, sounds like you had a great start. Want to grab a beer together? I'm in Jalan Pecenongan.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3003753]Welcome back, sounds like you had a great start. Want to grab a beer together? I'm in Jalan Pecenongan.[/QUOTE]Thank you brother, so far so good.

I will send you a message.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3003743]Naah, sorry. "My" girl is just a normal non-p4p girl, so I'm not really in a position to be pimping her out. Had she been doing p4p I wouldn't have minded hooking up a decent enough brother, but alas.[/QUOTE]Mine, too. My plan was telling you where she works and it's up to your skill to get her info.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3003773]Thank you brother, so far so good.

I will send you a message.

Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Que paso, hombre!

How long are you staying? I'll be there next month for a week. I want to buy you a beer for your contribution to this board. I took your advise and bought pills from that pharmacy. I'm still trying to find the street pimp you mentioned.

All these tier 2 type places less than classic numbers.

You have to go see after 9 pm.

Try check wa number.

Some have status updates of girls.

Some will send you videos in wa.

Better walk around all and choose as the girls seem to be changing over f.

Ew months new ones.

Price 350 k to 400 k, some others higher?

Grandpa massage.

Honey massage.

One does heavy tgram group posts deals but better always go there after 9 pm.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3003334]How was the girls of Honey Massage?

Age? Quality? Attitude?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3003730]
Today I fucked one Lokasari girl for 300 k BBFS plus 110 k for the room and then I also fucked two civvies I got from my girlfriend and then took her out for lunch too. I pretty much hung out on Mangga Besar all day. I might hit up classic again later on tonight tho.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Nice report.

Do you get them civies by referral from GF or you asked for pay them GFE experience.

Does your GF know ok you doing raw others. Civies.

What sites workeed for you to meet your GF if tinder okcupid bumble.

Some of dates I had know about classic and asked if I'm staying here to go there.

If civies dating girl go jl samanhudi after 6 pm do many vendors obot shops on both sides east and west.

In your face can saee them and they would know redlight area.

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3003910]Nice report.

Do you get them civies by referral from GF or you asked for pay them GFE experience.

Does your GF know ok you doing raw others. Civies.

What sites workeed for you to meet your GF if tinder okcupid bumble.

Some of dates I had know about classic and asked if I'm staying here to go there.

If civies dating girl go jl samanhudi after 6 pm do many vendors obot shops on both sides east and west.

In your face can saee them and they would know redlight area.[/QUOTE]Well I call her my girlfriend because we go out to lunch and hang out together but she's not really my girlfriend. She's cool with bringing me other civvies, I give her a small kick back for helping me out. And I actually didn't find her through a site. I found her from a girl I saw on my first trip that I met through an indomaret parking lot attendant dude that wears the blue vests.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3003939]Well I call her my girlfriend because we go out to lunch and hang out together but she's not really my girlfriend. She's cool with bringing me other civvies, I give her a small kick back for helping me out. And I actually didn't find her through a site. I found her from a girl I saw on my first trip that I met through an indomaret parking lot attendant dude that wears the blue vests..[/QUOTE]Maybe semi-pro would be a more accurate word to describe these girls but I think of them as civvies because they aren't working in a place like classic or even lokasari or anything like that. In fact I saw another one today and I thought I recognized her from around the lokasari KFC area so I asked her if she works at lokasari sometimes and she got offended that I had asked her that LOL.

Gabacho.

After numerous delays, I have finally arrived in Jakarta. Exhausted from the long flight from the US but still eager to get out and explore.

After checking into my hotel near Travel Hotel, I went and had some dim sum at the place right across from Travel then went exploring. At around 10 pm there were still lots of hot girls in the place, I'd guess 200 or so, but nothing really grabbed my eye. I made the rounds and sat for a while and thankfully, surprisingly, none of the mamasans hassled me to take a girl. I didn't even have to buy a drink. After 90 minutes or so of this, paid my 14,000 IDR exit fee and headed out.

Next stop, KFC at Lokasari Plaza. I was worn out at this point but after I came across a flock of cute young girls and their non-pushy mamasan and associates (again, surprised), I choose a tiny little 18 yo spinner with an angelic face. Paid the teenage pimp boy in training by the mamasan (400 k (he originally asked for 600) and off we went to my hotel.

This girl was very innocent looking but she definitely knew what she was doing. Very affectionate and willing to do whatever I asked (which wasn't much at this point of exhaustion) and after some glorious head for about 15 minutes, I returned the favor and she writhed and squirmed for me. It was real. She then rode me, orgasming again, and then we did doggy and mish when I finished for her. We had a nice shower together before and after and this sweetheart even let me video her ("just no internet") and was surprised and delighted with the 100 k IDR tip I gave her. After a sweet kiss and exchange of Whatsapp numbers, she was on her way and I am now off to sleep.

I'll be here for another month, at least, and will report as I feel like doing so.

Gabacho, perhaps we could meet up at some point. Looks like were are finally here at the same time. .

Enjoy, nerds.

GG.

Hello Brothers,

Is the Railroad still a happening place?

Classic is celebrating it's 19th birthday. Somebody here knows it from back in the days and wants to share some stories? What has changed over the years?

I'm sure some of the mamis now were once in the lineup back then, LOL .

[QUOTE=Safado70;3004087]Classic is celebrating it's 19th birthday. Somebody here knows it from back in the days and wants to share some stories? What has changed over the years?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Safado70;3004087]Classic is celebrating it's 19th birthday. Somebody here knows it from back in the days and wants to share some stories? What has changed over the years?[/QUOTE]I visited Classic once, maybe twice, some 20 years ago. I remember because I sessioned a girl from Colombia. Not a stunner, but I wanted to know how a Colombian could have landed in Jakarta. Maybe I also wanted to know if she had a white powder connection. Not that I'd have followed on her connection had she had one. E was my real interest in Jakarta. Classic had two or three Colombians if I remember right. I didn't know Classic was a brand new place. It must have been though if they now celebrate their 19th year.

[QUOTE=BJtemp;3004014]Hello Brothers,

Is the Railroad still a happening place?[/QUOTE]2 weeks ago it was.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/okoGCE6c8KTR8Kzf7[/URL]

KFC lokasari.

Could you explain where exactly you had seen these 5 to 10 girls.

Inside KFC? Or KTV nearby or another location.

Lokasari KTV?

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/sx75PizpYUyyTa8y6[/URL]

Since you say here they come to your room, is it for 2 hours or how long.

For 400 k.

If inside below is it like travel classic room included?

Cherry Jakarta Hotel Karaoke Lounge & Bar.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/SyYVH9BSWRh4LngE6[/URL]

There are few more bars in this area.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3004009]
Next stop, KFC at Lokasari Plaza. I was worn out at this point but after I came across a flock of cute young girls and their non-pushy mamasan and associates (again, surprised), I choose a tiny little 18 yo spinner with an angelic face. Paid the teenage pimp boy in training by the mamasan (400 k (he originally asked for 600)

GG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;3004162]2 weeks ago it was.[/QUOTE]Do you go often there?

What attracts you there if lower prices or much larger girls numbers or rough around edge adventure.

BTW anyone know sarkem near yogyakarta train station if still active or shutdown.

The indo other places thread not active as this.

Someone could you confirm if sarkem yogyakarta open and max girls in there like 10 to 30 or like 50+.

Do not remember any other city has such train tracks hangout area in indo from reading forums.

It was dangerous just to go there, from fall down to, room etc.

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3004253][URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/okoGCE6c8KTR8Kzf7[/URL]

KFC lokasari.

Could you explain where exactly you had seen these 5 to 10 girls.

Inside KFC? Or KTV nearby or another location.

Lokasari KTV?

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/sx75PizpYUyyTa8y6[/URL]

Since you say here they come to your room, is it for 2 hours or how long.

For 400 k.

If inside below is it like travel classic room included?

Cherry Jakarta Hotel Karaoke Lounge & Bar.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/SyYVH9BSWRh4LngE6[/URL]

There are few more bars in this area.[/QUOTE]See attached map. The areas I marked in purple are where mamasans, and their girls, hang out. There are no doubt other places there as well though. The ones I partook with were sitting and eating their dinner with mamasan and the pimp. All 18 or so and very cute. I also had one mamasan bring me her cute young girl inside the KFC as I was eating, LOL! She was indeed cute, but was eating a two-piece at the time.

Don't worry, if you get to the KFC, you will have been approached already.

We weren't looking at the time, just having fun, but it was probably 2 or 3 hours. They offered a long time rate as well but I didn't ask about that. I don't do long times.

I don't know anything about Cherry bar. Thus far I've only been to Travel and Lokasari.

I'm also having some luck on TanTan as well. Just set up a date with a 19 yo civvie student for Tuesday afternoon after her classes. She's looking for 'casual fun' with a foreign guy and wants to come straight to my room to watch porn and play. No money mentioned.

Michat. Can't get to install even after installing an Indo esim card with phone number. And even after changing my google play setting to Indo. What gives.

Had a girl ask for a 500 k tip for a BBBJ at Classic. Threatened to walk out and eventually agreed begrudgingly to 100 k. Service was horrible as was the BBBJ. Any tips on dealing with this? This was my first really bad session there. To be fair the girl was young and didn't really seem to know what she was doing.

Here is a report from a couple of weeks ago when I was in Jakarta.

I stayed at a hotel just 20 minutes from the airport I'm not going to mention the name for obvious reasons.

Wanted to try deep spa, but every time I checked Google Maps, it was a minimum of 45 minutes each way because of the traffic.

So I hit TanTan and Badoo.

Made loads of matches and over the course of my five days there I met three girls at each time took them to my room.

First one was an absolute diamond, and introduced herself as the blowjob queen and she certainly lived up to that name.

I met her in the mall next to the hotel and we walk to my room together.

Didn't register at reception.

Both showered and then jumped on the bed together. DFK FOLLOWED BY AN AMAZING BLOWJOB. , then I went down on her and stayed there for at least 20 minutes and felt it when she orgasm all over my tongue and face.

On with the protection and multiple positions until I unloaded two weeks of ammunition in missionary.

Absolutely amazing experience.

That was the highlight.

The next girl I met in the hotel lobby and again we made our way to my room. Shower kisses and an average fuck.

Wasn't a disaster, but compared to the first girl it was just average. One positive she was a lot younger than the first girl I had a very cute face. I actually came with her giving me a hand job teasing the end a little bit like those edging videos on porn hub.

Final one was complete bait and switch and I'm annoyed that I went through with it.

In the hotel lobby again I knew it wasn't the same girl. But it was getting late when I was a bit horny so fuck it why not?

She gave me a covered blow job, didn't speak much English and honestly was as useful as a Nokia 3310 in 2025.

Paid each girl 1. 3 million.

Also had a date with an absolutely stunning girl who clearly was not in the game, so we just had dinner and a really good chat.

Still in contact with her and she invited me out for dinner, but unfortunately it was the same day that I was leaving. So kept her contact the next time I'm in Jakarta we will reconnect.

I've arrived in Jakarta thinking it was going to be really difficult. But I got so many matches on Badoo and TanTan but it ended up being which one do I choose?

For clarity I'm in my mid 50's white look after my health a lot of people say I don't actually look my age by about 10 years.

I'm guessing this certainly helped with the matches on the dating sites.

Until next time Jakarta, thanks for the memories.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3004087]Classic is celebrating it's 19th birthday. Somebody here knows it from back in the days and wants to share some stories? What has changed over the years?[/QUOTE]Too bad no discounts to be had.

[QUOTE=HardCowboy;3004314]Had a girl ask for a 500 k tip for a BBBJ at Classic. Threatened to walk out and eventually agreed begrudgingly to 100 k. Service was horrible as was the BBBJ. Any tips on dealing with this? This was my first really bad session there. To be fair the girl was young and didn't really seem to know what she was doing.[/QUOTE]The answer is simple: don't pay, cut your losses and move onto the next girl.

Actually, I haven't got to the point where I'm actively trying to avoid the very new and young girls, but a girl being advertised as "baru" is definitely not as enticing to me as most mammies think.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004331]Lmao I should have read your whole post to the bottom before I posted my first reply. You basically discredit yourself in your post. HIV doesn't cause AIDS? Using toothpaste on your crotch to prevent STDs. That is hilarious!

Guys like you should be banned from the internet![/QUOTE]At least he should be moved to the bullshit section of this board.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3004409]...

Actually, I haven't got to the point where I'm actively trying to avoid the very new and young girls, but a girl being advertised as "baru" is definitely not as enticing to me as most mammies think.[/QUOTE]In the old days girls sold by mamasans as "baru" were girls we could bareback no questions asked. Whether that is still the case nowadays I cannot say because I haven't been barebacking in Jakarta. Another mamasan sales pitch is "no children", suggesting a tight pussy. I don't mind a tight pussy but there are more important things to me, like doggystyle and BBBJ. At Classic's I thought I misheard a mamasan when she brought me a girl saying "no children, XY years old". I write XY because the age quoted was well below 18. The mamasan was lying though, no way that girl was the age she said, she was older, only the mamasan assumed as a Westerner I could be easily fooled about a girl's age. Still, this is Jakarta where anything goes.

[QUOTE=XXL;3004413]In the old days girls sold by mamasans as "baru" were girls we could bareback no questions asked. Whether that is still the case nowadays I cannot say because I haven't been barebacking in Jakarta. Another manasan sales pitch is "no children", suggesting a tight pussy. I don't mind a tight pussy but there are more important things to me, like doggystyle and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Baru as code for bareback is definitely not the case anymore. Baru are just the new girls. Quite a few of them are unexperienced, unfortunately often in a bad way.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3004282]See attached map. The areas I marked in purple are where mamasans, and their girls, hang out. There are no doubt other places there as well though. The ones I partook with were sitting and eating their dinner with mamasan and the pimp. All 18 or so and very cute. I also had one mamasan bring me her cute young girl inside the KFC as I was eating, LOL! She was indeed cute, but was eating a two-piece at the time.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the map. One time I was in Lokasari I take a cute girl, but Mamasan take us in a hotel near that was completely horrible.

Where did you take the girl usually?

I use to have an hotel near Classic, do you think they can came fro short, or just for long (how much will be long?) ? In case do I have to pay Mamasan in advance? I never trust to do it.

Thinking about Classic have same price and hotel included. Could I ask why you chose Lokasari?

Update:18/05/2025.

I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun. I had originally gotten her WhatsApp number from a fellow monger when I was here back in December but never got around to seeing her before I ended up leaving.

She claims to be 20 years old but I'd say she looks to be about 22 or 23. Cute round face with big eyes that light up the room, cute smile, small spinner type body. Great BBBJ and nice tight pussy. She kept saying my dick was Besar and I was saying it was Kecil but she had no problem taking it all in entirely bareback and letting me dump a load inside her. No discussion of a condom or paying an upcharge to forego using one. Jakarta is the best!

Price was 300 k for her and a room at Hotel FF (located adjacent to the KFC) was 110 k for 1 hour. So total price was 410 k for bbfscip and great service with a smile. This is actually cheaper than Classic because at classic the girls are not barebacking included in the base price, even if you only paid an extra 50 k tip for BBFS at classic you would be paying 420 k (365 k plus 50 k plus 5 k exit).

I think there are some real diamonds in the rough to be found around lokasari (and the mangga besar area as a whole) if you're willing to put in the effort to find them. The value for the money is undoubtedly one of the best in all of Southeast Asia, Jakarta has Thailand beaten by a mile.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3004440]Thank you for the map. One time I was in Lokasari I take a cute girl, but Mamasan take us in a hotel near that was completely horrible.

Where did you take the girl usually?

I use to have an hotel near Classic, do you think they can came fro short, or just for long (how much will be long?) ? In case do I have to pay Mamasan in advance? I never trust to do it.

Thinking about Classic have same price and hotel included. Could I ask why you chose Lokasari?[/QUOTE]I had the same experience as you but also stuck around enough to see the girls had some unsightly diseases. It's a place where the rooms are filthy, the water will make you sick, and you might even get pickpocketed by a "penipu" or maybe in the room by the girl. There was even a police raid once. It used to be a karoake area for Papuans and they are still the main customers.

Why even bother when all the girls at Classic are vetted and clean, at least for the most part! Much better service and no street thugs. And even better price, right? Feels much safer and actually has hot water.

I'd like to check out some new clubs on my next trip but some parts of Jakarta make me really grateful for modern conveniences and actual 4 star hotels and good clean food. We all know the food there is horrible and KFC sucks anyways LOL.

[QUOTE=HardCowboy;3004314]Had a girl ask for a 500 k tip for a BBBJ at Classic. Threatened to walk out and eventually agreed begrudgingly to 100 k. Service was horrible as was the BBBJ. Any tips on dealing with this? This was my first really bad session there. To be fair the girl was young and didn't really seem to know what she was doing.[/QUOTE]Uncovered blow jobs are standard operating procedure at classic. They usually wipe you down with listerine on a tissue first and then suck you off without a condoms. Condoms are however usually required for sex but you can negotiate an extra amount of money for not using one but not 500 k extra that is way too much it should not be more than 100 k to 200 k.

This con artist was obviously trying to take advantage of a bule (foreigner / westerner) because she thought you didn't know the standard operating procedure. You should report her to her mamasan (the lady that brought you the room ticket and the 35 k change). Use Google translate if you have to. I wouldn't even mention the condom parts and I would just say that once inside the room she demanded 500 k additional money and refused to perform.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2945999]
New this time were the SA girls. Found two submissive girls and had some fun BDSM / anal etc sessions. If you think Emporium is too expensive then SA is not for you. But there were plenty of non pro educated English speaking girls available, many into kink and more interesting things than your average Classic girl. I enjoyed session that ranged from 4 to 7 hours each with one of the girls willing to stay longer but I sent her home cause I needed to sleep.

In summary, IMHO Jakarta beats any other mongering destination hands down in quality of girls and the sex they provide. Every single girl provided natural sex with DFK, BBBJ, and 6/7 girls provided BBFS. None of the girls had a single tattoo, all were under 25, most around 19-20. Ill take that over the jaded tatted fake boobed hookers in Thailand or over used single moms in the Phils any day.

[/QUOTE]Hello.

Can I ask what is SA and where is it?

How much is the price?

I was in Jakarta twice and I tried Classic, Emporium, Kota Indiah e Lokasari. It was good, for me, Emporium and Classic.

You are right: Jakarta girls worker are young and slim. Just I prefer Thailand girls for be active. But Jakarta beautiful girls are also very cheaper!

I wish to be back.

I would ask, if you are an expert of Jakarta, girls aside, what is possible to do in spare time? I cannot fuck all the days long:-the and.

I never found nothing nice to do, aside some shopping, or Mulia for music.

What is SA:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2905589&viewfull=1#post2905589[/URL]

How much it costs.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=3002828&highlight=seeking+cost#post3002828[/URL]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3004475]Hello.

Can I ask what is SA and where is it?

How much is the price?

I was in Jakarta twice and I tried Classic, Emporium, Kota Indiah e Lokasari. It was good, for me, Emporium and Classic.

You are right: Jakarta girls worker are young and slim. Just I prefer Thailand girls for be active. But Jakarta beautiful girls are also very cheaper!

I wish to be back.

I would ask, if you are an expert of Jakarta, girls aside, what is possible to do in spare time? I cannot fuck all the days long:-the and.

I never found nothing nice to do, aside some shopping, or Mulia for music.[/QUOTE]

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Hey all, has anyone been to the karaoke at Fortune Hotel Spa and Karaoke? Just wondering if extras can be had with the karaoke girls that anccompany you and if so what is the cost. Tia.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;3004527]Hey all, has anyone been to the karaoke at Fortune Hotel Spa and Karaoke? Just wondering if extras can be had with the karaoke girls that anccompany you and if so what is the cost. Tia.[/QUOTE]Gianni; don't feel bad, questions / queries like this rarely get answered on this board, then you are forced to wonder.

1. nothing is going on?

2. something is going on?

Your only solution is to go yourself. If you go google map gandaria mall massage, (Mr. Braid) then hopefully you might have half a dozen massage venues to choose from.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;3004527]Hey all, has anyone been to the karaoke at Fortune Hotel Spa and Karaoke? Just wondering if extras can be had with the karaoke girls that anccompany you and if so what is the cost. Tia.[/QUOTE]I have written a report about the club at Fortune Hotel. Is karaoke the same thing or different? In any case, I would assume the prices to be similar.

I mis-spoke. Fortune hotel is quite aways from Gandaria City. Fortune Hotel, spa?, looks isolated, pondok Indah. Isolated, I mean there doesn't seem to be any venues around it.

If you strike out there.

Looks like you want to go to fortune spa, karaoke in grand wijaya; that way if you strike out you still have somethin in your tool kit:

Other spas at grand wijaya:

1. my place.

2. delta.

3. mitra sehat.

4. grand.

5. sari mustika.

6. lamaroca.

7. the' heaven.

This is an example of taking an area in Jakarta, breaking it down, so during the night you have half a dozen locations to try.

I thought it might be a good idea. Even if I have to do it by myself.

There is also fortune spa near GBK stadium tanah abang.

[QUOTE=XXL;3004526]The distinction becomes purely academic if we're having sex every day for weeks on end. The doxocycline I pop today is PrEP for tomorrow's girl and PEP for yesterday's.

It also took me a while to realise SA was a dating app, and not short for "South America"[/QUOTE]Do you take one 100 MG tablet everyday or 2 tablets?

Gabacho bro, you are a living legend and inspire all of us here miles away. You are the real deal and reason why this board rocks and we log in every morning eagerly to read your sexpeditions. Keep going bro and keep blowing. Banging a mamasan, wow another feather in your cap. Have fun and stay safe!

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004460]Update:18/05/2025.

I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun. I had originally gotten her WhatsApp number from a fellow monger when I was here back in December but never got around to seeing her before I ended up leaving.

She claims to be 20 years old but I'd say she looks to be about 22 or 23. Cute round face with big eyes that light up the room, cute smile, small spinner type body. Great BBBJ and nice tight pussy. She kept saying my dick was Besar and I was saying it was Kecil but she had no problem taking it all in entirely bareback and letting me dump a load inside her. No discussion of a condom or paying an upcharge to forego using one. Jakarta is the best!

Price was 300 k for her and a room at Hotel FF (located adjacent to the KFC) was 110 k for 1 hour. So total price was 410 k for bbfscip and great service with a smile. This is actually cheaper than Classic because at classic the girls are not barebacking included in the base price, even if you only paid an extra 50 k tip for BBFS at classic you would be paying 420 k (365 k plus 50 k plus 5 k exit)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3004475]Hello.

Can I ask what is SA and where is it?

How much is the price?

I was in Jakarta twice and I tried Classic, Emporium, Kota Indiah e Lokasari. It was good, for me, Emporium and Classic.

You are right: Jakarta girls worker are young and slim. Just I prefer Thailand girls for be active. But Jakarta beautiful girls are also very cheaper!

I wish to be back...[/QUOTE]Others have answered about Seeking. Regarding what to do all day, I usually wake up late, have lunch, hang by the pool or catch up with friends. Afternoon around 4 I head to a Spa session. Or go for a legit massage. Alternatively I have a girl staying over the previous night. Night is usually a date including dinner with SA girl or civilian or a trip to a brothel. I should mention I usually make short more frequent trips. I don't stay for weeks for months.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004460]Update:18/05/2025.
I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun. I had originally gotten her WhatsApp number from a fellow monger when I was here back in December but never got around to seeing her before I ended up leaving.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]This man is a legend. I haven't been on the Jakarta thread lately but when I saw that Gabacho was in Indonesia and start posting again I came back everyday LOL.

Always fun to read his reports, not only entertaining but also informative about the meds. I've learned a lot and I did a little more research myself.

Gabacho if you read this THANK YOU! Stay safe out there and looking forward to your next reports.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004460]Update:18/05/2025.

I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun. I had originally gotten her WhatsApp number from a fellow monger when I was here back in December but never got around to seeing her before I ended up leaving.

She claims to be 20 years old but I'd say she looks to be about 22 or 23. Cute round face with big eyes that light up the room, cute smile, small spinner type body. Great BBBJ and nice tight pussy. She kept saying my dick was Besar and I was saying it was Kecil but she had no problem taking it all in entirely bareback and letting me dump a load inside her. No discussion of a condom or paying an upcharge to forego using one. Jakarta is the best!

Price was 300 k for her and a room at Hotel FF (located adjacent to the KFC) was 110 k for 1 hour. So total price was 410 k for bbfscip and great service with a smile. This is actually cheaper than Classic because at classic the girls are not barebacking included in the base price, even if you only paid an extra 50 k tip for BBFS at classic you would be paying 420 k (365 k plus 50 k plus 5 k exit).

I think there are some real diamonds in the rough to be found around lokasari (and the mangga besar area as a whole) if you're willing to put in the effort to find them. The value for the money is undoubtedly one of the best in all of Southeast Asia, Jakarta has Thailand beaten by a mile.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]They don't want us stretching them open and most customers are our local brethren, loosely goosey is bad for bizz in the jizz bizz.

[QUOTE=Terry88;3004461]I had the same experience as you but also stuck around enough to see the girls had some unsightly diseases. It's a place where the rooms are filthy, the water will make you sick, and you might even get pickpocketed by a "penipu" or maybe in the room by the girl. There was even a police raid once. It used to be a karoake area for Papuans and they are still the main customers.

Why even bother when all the girls at Classic are vetted and clean, at least for the most part! Much better service and no street thugs. And even better price, right? Feels much safer and actually has hot water.

I'd like to check out some new clubs on my next trip but some parts of Jakarta make me really grateful for modern conveniences and actual 4 star hotels and good clean food. We all know the food there is horrible and KFC sucks anyways LOL.[/QUOTE]None of the girls I've seen had any diseases. And it's not unsafe at all, as you seem to think it is. If you're afraid of being out in the street by yourself you should probably just go home.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004460]Update:18/05/2025.

I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun. I had originally gotten her WhatsApp number from a fellow monger when I was here back in December but never got around to seeing her before I ended up leaving.

She claims to be 20 years old but I'd say she looks to be about 22 or 23. Cute round face with big eyes that light up the room, cute smile, small spinner type body. Great BBBJ and nice tight pussy. She kept saying my dick was Besar and I was saying it was Kecil but she had no problem taking it all in entirely bareback and letting me dump a load inside her. No discussion of a condom or paying an upcharge to forego using one. Jakarta is the best!

Price was 300 k for her and a room at Hotel FF (located adjacent to the KFC) was 110 k for 1 hour. So total price was 410 k for bbfscip and great service with a smile. This is actually cheaper than Classic because at classic the girls are not barebacking included in the base price, even if you only paid an extra 50 k tip for BBFS at classic you would be paying 420 k (365 k plus 50 k plus 5 k exit).

I think there are some real diamonds in the rough to be found around lokasari (and the mangga besar area as a whole) if you're willing to put in the effort to find them. The value for the money is undoubtedly one of the best in all of Southeast Asia, Jakarta has Thailand beaten by a mile.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I totally agree on the diamonds in the rough around Lokasari. I've had two over the past few days and they were both absolute gems. Young, cute, willing and enthusiastic. Both for IDR 400 k. And far better service (GFE) than 90% of the girls in Travel or Classic.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3004440]Thank you for the map. One time I was in Lokasari I take a cute girl, but Mamasan take us in a hotel near that was completely horrible.

Where did you take the girl usually?

I use to have an hotel near Classic, do you think they can came fro short, or just for long (how much will be long?) ? In case do I have to pay Mamasan in advance? I never trust to do it.

Thinking about Classic have same price and hotel included. Could I ask why you chose Lokasari?[/QUOTE]All the girls I've been with so far I've taken to my hotel, which is very close. No reason to take them to a filthy hotel for 100 IDR. Again, I don't count the minutes and neither do the Lokasari girls. We're done when we're done and I don't do long times, so.

Pay is in advance and you don't need to worry about getting ripped off.

I just prefer not to be hassled by the mamasans in Classic and Travel and I like the thrill of a street negotiation. I will try some Classic girls soon but will be very selective, based on their attitudes (ie. Whether they have one or not.).

Trip report: 15 days in Jakarta, from late April 2025.

Came here as a last moment decision, so didn't rtff at all. I took an hour per day to read the last 100 pages during my trip though.

I used only 2 locations, Travel and Classic, as I saw there is already much more ladies than I could fuck in these places.

Met 11 girls during that time.

5 from Terminal 2, 3 from Travel, 3 from Terminal 5 (I didn't try the club on the basement floor because of the negative comments on this thread).

Based on the experience I had, I would rate these clubs as following:

Number 1 : Terminal 5 (the best set-up, had 3 excellent sessions there).

Number 2 : Travel (the smoke is much more prevalent than in Classic, price is more expensive for everything too, but I had 2 excellent fuck there, and my worst fuck was there too).

Number 3 : Terminal 2 (had mostly average fucks there, girls seemed to be more worned out, and caught an std there).

I should add that I've always been there quite late, never before 9 PM, even once at midnight, so I probably missed the best girls.

The girls ages ranged from 18 to 24, it is quite obvious the girls are young even though the ones saying 24 might be a bit older.

The girl's services:

Basic stuff are available with most girls, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, covered FS (some won't accept DFK, some others won't accept DATY, but I had only one girl who absolutely wanted to put the cover before BJ).

Only one of them went spontaneously for an enthusiastic rim job, and BBFS seemed to be available with almost all of them against a 200 tip (I didn't BBFS any girl, but that's what came out of the dicussions in the room).

They love to suck dick, so BBBJ does not seem to be any problem, but it seems they are not into the CIM stuff.

No Anal!! : Every girls refused anal (even just a finger) except one in Travel who said she would do it for 1 million, but I didn't have it with me that day. The first girl of the trip even said "no anal" at the moment we entered the room, even I didn't mention it at all, nor did I make any reference to her bumhole. It felt strange, as if it was written on my face that I'll go for the ass.

Each session was an hour session, one shot included, shower and got dressed up right after the dead. Except for a 18 year's old girl in T5 who stayed there with her legs wide open, I couldn't resist giving her very beautiful an perfumed pussy a massage until the end of the allowed time. Had a few phone calls (10 minutes before the end of the session), and a few knocks on the door, but we never rushed to get out of the room.

Tipping:

Every girls asked for a tip at the end of the session (except the girl that gave me a rim job, but I spontaneously gave her a 100 tip). The only girl I didn't give a tip to was the first one (Terminal 2) because she was a no-no girl, told me "no" too many times in the session (I had some regret afterwards, should have given her a 50, she was still a nice girl). I usually gave 50 or 100 tips. Some girls would even ask for 1 more when I handed them a 100 note to which I added a 50 note with two girls because I liked the session I had with them.

Only one of them spoke good English, every others had almost zero English.

STD:

One girl had very clear signs of STD down there (I didn't know what it was at the moment) but I wrongly went for a covered FS anyway (she was only the third girl I met, had I met her later I think I would have cancelled the session). I just went for a covered FS and BBBJ, no kissing and no exchange of fluid except for the BBBJ and yet I had an outbreak a few days later. A cold sore for a day or two, followed by a rash on the chest. From what I've seen on the internet, that's HSV so I went for Aciclovir tablets but I could get my hands on it only 4 days after the first symptoms, which is not good. I've been on these tablets since then, and it does not seem to give exceptionnal results.

I was open to BBFS before meeting that girl (a 19 years old from T2), since then I thought there is no way I would put my dick raw in any of these pussies. Most of them are being fucked 7 times per day every day of the Week, every Week of the month, every month of the year and they are almost all ready to let people BBFS them against a 200 tip (even that girl talked about a tip when I suggested her to go raw before I saw her pussy).

Girls are being fucked over and over again in these places. I've seen many of them getting down from a session with a customer, then going up again with another one only a few minutes later.

Worst session:

A dick scared girl in Travel. She was not only scared by the pain, but also by catching an std, she even put Listerine on the condom before the BJ. She gave a good BJ though, her mouth and tight pussy felt real good. She later told me I'm her first westerner, she normally goes with Asians only. She is the only girl I chose from the line up offered by the mama (the full lineup they show to Asian customers). It seems that once they are in the line up, they can't refuse a customer as opposed to the moments where mama goes and asks a particular girl to come over (these are the only times I've seen a girl refusing to get up, or putting all kind of attitude so I could know she is not willing to go with me). She told me she had stomach aches and really felt the pain (though I've been very gentle), yet I saw her going again upstairs for a threesome with another guy only 30 minutes later. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have done so if she could have the choice to refuse.

Best session:

Not sure if I could classify any session as being the best, I had 6 excellent sessions (3 in Terminal 5, 2 in Travel, 1 in Terminal 2).

Quality of the girls:

Never seen any stunner in Jakarta during these 15 days, even outside the sex areas, though many girls have cute or even pretty faces with a slim body.

Most of them were very small (more than Thais), with tight pussies (only had one girl with a bit loose pussy), natural small boobs, no tummy and no baby damage. Face was cute most of the times, no hygiene problems though all of them were smokers. Very few had tattoos.

Mamasans:

The 2nd girl from the trip (first girl in Travel), I handed four 100 notes to the mama (price is 375). She said something like "give me tip ok" and never saw her coming back with the change. A few minutes later the girl says let's go to the room. I didn't want to fuck around for the 25 change, but I didn't want to let it happen again either. So for every next trip I would put the exact amount in my left pocket (365 or 375) depending on the place I'm visiting, and I would select some small notes to put in my right pocket (One 50 note, and a few smaller ones), in case the girl asks for a tip that I don't want to give I could show them that I'm litterally broke (never had to do it though, but it was just a precaution). I would also put a million in my back pocket in case I come across another girl (or the same one) who would ask a big tip for anal, but it never happened too (I've seen again the 1 million girl in Travel, but I didn't get another session with her).

Same goes for the cashier in T2 and T5, in my last visits she wouldn't give back the 10 note change. I didn't want to make a fuss about it, but if you don't want it to happen, be prepared to pay an amount very close to the one on the ticket.

My MO:

After meeting the dick scared girl I didn't want to come across that situation again. I would have a look at all the girls available first (and reject (respectfully) all the mamasans in the beginning). Then I would try to find a seat, even at a remote place if the good tables are already taken (which means every time in a place like Terminal 2 or Travel) or stay at a spot where I could have a good look at the girls when they are being asked to come and form a lineup for the Asian customers (like the corridor linking the main area the girls are seated with the area hosting the band show, not far from the stairs leading to the toilets in Travel). This would give me an idea of the girls body, shape and face. Then I would order my beer (Bali Hai at 44 in Classic, or Bintang at 70 in Travel), and pretend I'm not here for the girls. Mamas will invariably come over with one or two chicks that they think would match me. I had to reject some of them but more often than not they come over with a slim chick that I'm ready to fuck. I would offer her a drink too as the price is very cheap (some don't want one, one took an Iced capuccino (17) that she shared with her friends, one even took a pack of cigarettes instead (cheap too, around 52 at T5). That alone put the girls at ease, and I could see they felt more comfortable with me. I never discussed about services, just small usual talks like where you from, what's your name and so on. Very small talks anyway as I don't like communicating through the translate app, but I would try to be a bit touchy (not over the top, they are very shy in front of others). Once the mama comes back, I request a few more minutes where I precisely asked the girl "do you want to go with me?" which they all said "yes", then I would follow by "you're not scared? Which they smile and say "no" (only one said "a bit nervous" but she's been a gem in the room). After following these steps, I can't complain about any girl's attitude in the room, they then all had a top notch attitude.

Pro tip:

Bring your own preferred condoms and lube from your country, choices are very sparse in Jakarta. I went short on my usual lube and coudn't find an equivalent in Jakarta, they've got only Durex and a brand called Vivo (not the best stuff).

Try to have some important medicine at hands too (antibiotic tablets and cream, aciclovir), in case some sh*t happens to be able to react immediately. Pharmacies can be found all around the place, but not all of them have the important stuff and some can be closed on Sunday.

P.S. : One night they had a special dj at Terminal 5, I thought I'm going to check it, it can't be worse than the local band. Wrong! Upon entering I've been told there's a minimum charge of 100 that night (normally it's 5, with a discount when you take a drink or bang a chick). I didn't get in and went to Terminal 2 instead.

Conclusion:

Good trip and very promising destination, I will come back for longer with better knowledge about the place next time.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3004783]

5 from Terminal 2, 3 from Travel, 3 from Terminal 5 (I didn't try the club on the basement floor because of the negative comments on this thread).

The girl's services:

Basic stuff are available with most girls, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, covered FS (some won't accept DFK, some others won't accept DATY, but I had only one girl who absolutely wanted to put the cover before BJ).

Only one of them went spontaneously for an enthusiastic rim job, and BBFS seemed to be available with almost all of them against a 200 tip (I didn't BBFS any girl, but that's what came out of the dicussions in the room).

They love to suck dick, so BBBJ does not seem to be any problem, but it seems they are not into the CIM stuff.

[/QUOTE]Excellent report. There's been several recent reports here about all girls at travel refusing BBBJ. I planned to go there at least once on my next trip to verify for myself, so it's good to see experiences at least vary.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3004783]

No Anal!! : Every girls refused anal (even just a finger) except one in Travel who said she would do it for 1 million, but I didn't have it with me that day. The first girl of the trip even said "no anal" at the moment we entered the room, even I didn't mention it at all, nor did I make any reference to her bumhole. It felt strange, as if it was written on my face that I'll go for the ass.
[/QUOTE]LOL. That is indeed strange. Maybe have a look in the mirror and see if something screams out "wants to fuck ass?"

I banged one girl at Classic (terminal 2) in the ass the one time I got there unusually late at night (close to midnight). She wasn't really my type face wise, but we got along rather well upstairs. She realized I wasn't going to take her, but hung around at my table anyway, and I grew to like her funny personality. Did a couple of tours around the place after giving her a polite goodbye, but saw nobody else I really liked (it was rather late, after a fruitless tinder date I think), and so went back to her in the end. Ended up carefully fucking her in the ass. She didn't ask for any tip, but once we were dressed I tipped her the double (200 k) of what I usually tip for good service.

Club in basement I also went to once. Prices were around double, and entry was 35 k if I remember right. I couldn't really see any difference between the girls here and at the floors upstairs, so didn't go there again, but would drop by again if I did not see anyone I liked upstairs.

Update 21/05/2025.

My sleeping pattern is still a bit off and I ended up sleeping most of the day away yesterday and then went to classic like at 2 am again but this time I went to T5 instead of T2. It was actually quite lively in there to be as late as it was and yes it was on a Tuesday (Wednesday Morning).

They had girls twerking and singing on both stages, lots of Asian customers smoking and drinking and girls parading around together in groups of 5 to 10.

I picked a dark skinned girl that was sitting on the front bench toward the end of the 2nd set of bleechers (past the stage on the left).

She turned out to not be so great. Inexperienced in a bad way. Blow job skills were lacking, it felt like I was just putting my pecker into a hollow mouth bubble. Then she made me use a condom which just killed the entire vibe. It's like why do I go to the trouble to have a vasectomy and take all these different antibiotics antivirals and vaccines just to still use a condom. Needless to say I wasn't able to cum. Just not my cup of hierro.

I went back out and I picked another girl. This one was taller and lighter skinned and had an energetic personality, she said she was from Sumatra. I paid 365 k exact change to her handler and off we went to the room.

This girl was much better. Difference was night and day. We started off with a shower together and she got on her knees and started sucking Mr Blanquito right then and there in the shower stall. She didn't even bother with the listerine. There was Lots of tongue lip and cheek and lots of tight grip and suction. It felt much much better than the hollow mouth. After about 10 mins or so of that, we made our way over to the bed and I had her get on top. I didn't have my phone nearby for Google Translate but I didn't really need it to be honest, she started to reach for the condom that was on the edge of the bed and I said "tanpa condom" and she looked at me and said "tips" and responded "oke, seraruts ribu" and she agreed with a thumbs up gesture and then got on top of me and slipped me inside her raw.

Her pussy was much, much better than that of the first girl. Nice and tight and warm. Luckily I lubed up with my Swiss Navy Silicon lubricant I brought with me because she was so tight it would have hurt without it. Needless to say I was enjoying it so much that I didn't last long. About 10 minutes of her on top and I blew my load.

Afterwards we showered again and then she gave me a pijit massage for the remainder of the time. Massage was strong and good on my shoulders arms hands legs and feet, it felt like a paid massage from a reflexy place. I gave her the 100 k tip as per our agreement and I left feeling very satisfied.

Afterwards I hit the coffeeshop for a Bintang Beer and some Ayam Goreng.

Made it home about 5 am and fell back asleep and now I just woke up.

-Gabacho.

Agree with Gaijin Gigolo about the mamasans. They were agressive to impose or assign ladies. I did not take anyone at Malio due to the mamasans unnecessary push and attitudes of some good looking gals. At the classic, liked one of the gals, was about to take her and then another girl sitting next to her asked can she join us. Ended up in an unplanned threesum with lots of kissing, BBBJ, rimming, pounding with separate condoms. They were quite young, and very friendly. They were playful during the shower time too. Gave 150 K each as tip for making it memorable. This was couple of months ago.

Cheers.

Dickaprio.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3004747]All the girls I've been with so far I've taken to my hotel, which is very close. No reason to take them to a filthy hotel for 100 IDR.
Pay is in advance and you don't need to worry about getting ripped off.

I just prefer not to be hassled by the mamasans in Classic and Travel and I like the thrill of a street negotiation. I will try some Classic girls soon but will be very selective, based on their attitudes (ie. Whether they have one or not.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004936]Update 21/05/2025.

My sleeping pattern is still a bit off and I ended up sleeping most of the day away yesterday and then went to classic like at 2 am again but this time I went to T5 instead of T2. It was actually quite lively in there to be as late as it was and yes it was on a Tuesday (Wednesday Morning).

I picked a dark skinned girl that was sitting on the front bench toward the end of the 2nd set of bleechers (past the stage on the left).

She turned out to not be so great. Inexperienced in a bad way. Blow job skills were lacking, it felt like I was just putting my pecker into a hollow mouth bubble. Then she made me use a condom which just killed the entire vibe. It's like why do I go to the trouble to have a vasectomy and take all these different antibiotics antivirals and vaccines just to still use a condom. Needless to say I wasn't able to cum. Just not my cup of hierro.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]There has to be a way to negotiate for BBFS before paying for the room, if so I would re-consider re-visiting it in the future.

Thanks for the post.

No idea why my last report asking for information was not uploaded. Trying again though.

I will arrive Jakarta again in June for about 2 weeks and will go RAW with all girls just like last time. Plan to do more than 18-20 girls this trip including DATY BBFS Anal Rimming and was wondering if brethren here could guide me how to avoid diseases including STD's. Pleasssse suggest and advise precautions to be taken before during and after the trip. Merci beaucoup.

Arrived 9. 30 pm after landing a couple hours earlier, had the fastest exit gate to curbs far at CGK, around 10 minutes, not sure if I will ever beat that.

Quite busy in classic, Few spare tables at back, picked up a Mama, Ivon, previously worked Bali, nice lady, decent English good for a bit of a chat, she offered some different options too, from other mama's a 2 hour session for 500 k or take a girl out overnight 1 mil, girl stays til 8/9 am.

She got my preferences, and off she went to round up some girls.

Now this was a first for my classic lineups, it appears mama went to several different couches and picked girls that actually closely met my preference, as girls started showing up in 2 and 3's from different directions, until I was surround by almost a full circle, I had to swivel on the stool to see the girls behind me, I think I counted 15-16, which is more than the usual 5-8 I have been presented with in the past.

Smiled at them one by one, to many to do the Hello,/ what's your name routine, discounted the ones that did not respond, then took my pick of the ones that at least smiled back.

Just my luck that she had 0 English, so I bust out my limited Duolingo Indonesian. Make some small talk get her name, Lita, age 23, from Java, does not want a drink so we just hang for a bit. As it was busy we needed to wait for a room 20 minutes or so.

Off to the room and we end up in one right outside where the cleaning boys sit, 5 of them sitting, joking making comments, bit of back talk with the girl, I joke with her once the door is closed that they are jealous and will be listening to us through the door, which gets a laugh, so warming up a little.

Usual shower process then onto the bed, asks if I want a condom for BJ which I decline, moves into a fairly mechanical BJ, then suddenly stops and grabs the condom, and I'm like hold up, we've only been at this a few minutes, I'm hoping she is not a rush rush all mechanical service girl.

So I indicate not yet, sit up and start some kissing, thinking she might be a closed mouth not into it, but boy was I wrong, she completely changed, passionate kissing, stroking, and session turned around into a good GFE, lots of passion, moaning, heavy breathing, all positions covered FS (my preference) and more BJ, we did have one point I had to break out the translator as she wanted to put the Dom on again after a bit of BJ and I said no, and she was getting confused / upset, but was all smiles and happy when I explain I was not ready to fuck yet, finished in the dom in missionary with her clinging to me, lips pressed to mine.

I won't pretend I'm a Casanova and gave her multiple orgasms, not even sure she came once, but she did get naturally wet and either had or faked a good time, enough for me to be happy, which is the service I'm paying for, she did rush to shower and cleanup after though, which reduced her tip, a bit of a cuddle after the event completes the fantasy. We were in the room for 45/50 minutes. Tipped (she did not ask) 100 k and would have been 200 k if we had some post coital chilling.

[QUOTE=Dickaprio;3004965]Agree with Gaijin Gigolo about the mamasans. They were agressive to impose or assign ladies. I did not take anyone at Malio due to the mamasans unnecessary push and attitudes of some good looking gals. At the classic, liked one of the gals, was about to take her and then another girl sitting next to her asked can she join us. Ended up in an unplanned threesum with lots of kissing, BBBJ, rimming, pounding with separate condoms. They were quite young, and very friendly. They were playful during the shower time too. Gave 150 K each as tip for making it memorable. This was couple of months ago.

Cheers.

Dickaprio.[/QUOTE]Glad I'm not the only one who sees this. I'll still go to Classic / Travel but I'm having too much fun with the Lokasari girls and onlines at the moment!

Tantan, Badoo, and Michat are gold mines.

For your Lokasari naysayers, these are two girls I took to my hotel on separate occasions. Both 18, cute as hell in my opinion, friendly and very willing. Both found with a small group of equally cute 18-20 yos near KFC, Lokasari.

Gabacho, well done, Don't let anyone downslide you and bog you down, keep writing these reports they are informative and helpful. Go on mate, what's happening on the civvies front, and chicks from the past, LOL.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004936]Update 21/05/2025.

My sleeping pattern is still a bit off and I ended up sleeping most of the day away yesterday and then went to classic like at 2 am again but this time I went to T5 instead of T2. It was actually quite lively in there to be as late as it was and yes it was on a Tuesday (Wednesday Morning).

They had girls twerking and singing on both stages, lots of Asian customers smoking and drinking and girls parading around together in groups of 5 to 10.

I picked a dark skinned girl that was sitting on the front bench toward the end of the 2nd set of bleechers (past the stage on the left)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004460]I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun.[/QUOTE]Good to hear that Angun is becoming more entrepreneurial. Will ping her to see what stock she might be offering. Suppoosing we are talking about the same Angun, I posted a pic that she recently sent me. If you come across them, Adel and Nadia also will proactively introduce girls. I wouldn't refer to them as mamasans, but have adopted the term "pimpettes" for such providers. Although I have done them all in the past, only Angun is still fuckworthy after Adel pumped out her first baby. From my experience, these pimpettes are largely fishing from the same pool of girls that the aunty mamasans and the bug-eyed papasan are providing. That being said, there are some pimpettes that can provide girls who are outside the group of girls who hang around Lokasari (cewek tidak nongkrong di Lokasari) and those connections can lead to some noteworthy pleasurable experiences. Will leave it at that.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3004742]None of the girls I've seen had any diseases.[/QUOTE]Guys will fuck however they want. Lokasari is a 100% guaranteed BB available environment, which is one of the prime attractions for some. I would highlight that this makes the girls particularly susceptible. I know for a fact that many of these girls can be cesspools of STDs. For this reason, if I use girls in the Lokasari network, I also use some of the preventative protocols mentioned by Gabacho, primarily antibiotic prophylaxis dose. My mongering mate once told me I was foolish for doing so, but then he ended up returning back to Europe with something that the doctors back home didn't diagnose correctly the first visit and he ended up taking a series of extremely painful intramuscular antibiotic shots in his ass to clear up the mess. Ouch. For consideration.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004936]Then she made me use a condom which just killed the entire vibe. It's like why do I go to the trouble to have a vasectomy and take all these different antibiotics antivirals and vaccines just to still use a condom. Needless to say I wasn't able to cum.[/QUOTE]Is there maybe a way to talk with the girl and confirm "tampa condom" before taking her to the room? With local language skills or discreet use of Google Translate, it might eliminate the uncertainty. If you have to roll the BB dice every time, that would be a kill joy from the start IMO. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3005142]For your Lokasari naysayers, these are two girls I took to my hotel on separate occasions. Both 18, cute as hell in my opinion, friendly and very willing. Both found with a small group of equally cute 18-20 yos near KFC, Lokasari.[/QUOTE]With pix this time.

Very interesting.

Just a question: how much you pay to have girl drinking with you at Classic? Did you pay mamasan, or after with bill?

The girls in the room was quite all fine for me. But it can be nice also drink something after the hours, before see bay. One time a girl ask me about.

Or also something before can be ok, specially if after she would be still better.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3004783]
After meeting the dick scared girl I didn't want to come across that situation again. I would have a look at all the girls available first (and reject (respectfully) all the mamasans in the beginning). Then I would try to find a seat, even at a remote place if the good tables are already taken (which means every time in a place like Terminal 2 or Travel) or stay at a spot where I could have a good look at the girls when they are being asked to come and form a lineup for the Asian customers (like the corridor linking the main area the girls are seated with the area hosting the band show, not far from the stairs leading to the toilets in Travel). This would give me an idea of the girls body, shape and face. Then I would order my beer (Bali Hai at 44 in Classic, or Bintang at 70 in Travel), and pretend I'm not here for the girls. Mamas will invariably come over with one or two chicks that they think would match me. I had to reject some of them but more often than not they come over with a slim chick that I'm ready to fuck. I would offer her a drink too as the price is very cheap (some don't want one, one took an Iced capuccino (17) that she shared with her friends, one even took a pack of cigarettes instead (cheap too, around 52 at T5). That alone put the girls at ease, and I could see they felt more comfortable with me. I never discussed about services, just small usual talks like where you from, what's your name and so on. Very small talks anyway as I don't like communicating through the translate app, but I would try to be a bit touchy (not over the top, they are very shy in front of others). Once the mama comes back, I request a few more minutes where I precisely asked the girl "do you want to go with me?" which they all said "yes", then I would follow by "you're not scared? Which they smile and say "no" (only one said "a bit nervous" but she's been a gem in the room). After following these steps, I can't complain about any girl's attitude in the room, they then all had a top notch attitude.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uphill69;3005121]
Quite busy in classic, Few spare tables at back, picked up a Mama, Ivon, previously worked Bali, nice lady, decent English good for a bit of a chat, she offered some different options too, from other mama's a 2 hour session for 500 k or take a girl out overnight 1 mil, girl stays til 8/9 am.

She got my preferences, and off she went to round up some girls.

Now this was a first for my classic lineups, it appears mama went to several different couches and picked girls that actually closely met my preference, as girls started showing up in 2 and 3's from different directions, until [/QUOTE]Wow. What kind of VIP are you? That's normal in the basement club (costing twice of T2/ T5, but no idea why), but never seen it in T2. I'd tip that mama and stick to her if she did that for me.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3004855]There's been several recent reports here about all girls at travel refusing BBBJ. I planned to go there at least once on my next trip to verify for myself, so it's good to see experiences at least vary.[/QUOTE]I've had the feeling that all of them loved to suck dicks, even the dick scared girl gave a good BJ (covered).

The two first girls I've met in Travel were great, no Listerine bullshit too. I've been the one taking my dick out of their mouths most of the time, I felt like they could go on for a long time with the BJ, though I usually don't go for very extended BJ sessions.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3004855]I banged one girl at Classic (terminal 2) in the ass the one time I got there unusually late at night (close to midnight). She wasn't really my type face wise, but we got along rather well upstairs. She realized I wasn't going to take her, but hung around at my table anyway, and I grew to like her funny personality. Did a couple of tours around the place after giving her a polite goodbye, but saw nobody else I really liked (it was rather late, after a fruitless tinder date I think), and so went back to her in the end. Ended up carefully fucking her in the ass. She didn't ask for any tip, but once we were dressed I tipped her the double (200 k) of what I usually tip for good service.[/QUOTE]That's good to know that at least some are OK with A+. It might have something to do with the kind of girls that I chose though. I've mostly taken young and slim girls.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3005192]Just a question: how much you pay to have girl drinking with you at Classic? Did you pay mamasan, or after with bill?[/QUOTE]It's the same price than when you order something for yourself. There's no upcharge if the drink you're ordering is for you or for the girl. You don't pay to the mama, you'll have to pay it with the bill before leaving the club.

I don't understand their pricing but it remains cheap, they've got some "add charge", some "discount", the entry fee becomes 3,5 when you fuck a girl (instead of 5).

Here are the 3 tickets the cashier gave me in T5. The first one, I paid the girl's fee directly to mama, the 2 others the mama made me sign the paper and I paid everything before leaving the club.

I just see that the pack of cigarettes for the girl was 59 (instead of 52 that I wrote in the initial post).

[QUOTE=Uphill69;300512]

Quite busy in classic, Few spare tables at back, picked up a Mama, Ivon, previously worked Bali, nice lady, decent English good for a bit of a chat, she offered some different options too, from other mama's a 2 hour session for 500 k or take a girl out overnight 1 mil, girl stays til 8/9 am.[/QUOTE]This is super interesting. I would love to get these options. Usually there are no discounts at all. 2 hours are 2 x 365, and overnight is five tickets 5 x 365.

I always assumed that prices were fixed in classic. This is why I never even tried to negotiate.

Thank you for sharing.

I saw Asian guys that have girls at the table for long time. I don't think the pay just girls drink, because girls look happy.

I read in another post that they pay the same price for hour (so, reading your ticket 240 k for xp1, and it may be thiket 3. 5 k, no room for sure). It may be you never pay more because that time was in the hour you paid.

But it's all so cheaper, that when I wish I just try to take a girls before or after sex, then I will see if ticket change (aside drink). All so cheaper, all so nice. .

If someone else know more about girl at table price, just share thanks. In every case, with this always good price, I will try.

Have a nice night.

Giovanni.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3005222]It's the same price than when you order something for yourself. There's no upcharge if the drink you're ordering is for you or for the girl. You don't pay to the mama, you'll have to pay it with the bill before leaving the club.

I don't understand their pricing but it remains cheap, they've got some "add charge", some "discount", the entry fee becomes 3,5 when you fuck a girl (instead of 5).

Here are the 3 tickets the cashier gave me in T5. The first one, I paid the girl's fee directly to mama, the 2 others the mama made me sign the paper and I paid everything before leaving the club.

I just see that the pack of cigarettes for the girl was 59 (instead of 52 that I wrote in the initial post).[/QUOTE]

You can have the lady at your table for a reasonable, undefined amount of time to speak with her and get to know her first as Paolo99 did. Usually 5-15 minutes, but again, it's not set. It will depend on the lady, the mamasan, the time of day/night and how many other customers are around. Buying her a drink doesn't matter. This isn't Thailand and Philippines where ladies get commissions from overpriced drinks. It's just the cost of the drink.

If you take a longer time with the lady, the mamasan may ask you to go to the room or pull her away to another customer the mamasan wants to present her to. If the mamasan comes back and asks you go to the room, you are on the clock. You are expected to either take her to the room, book a table, or send her away. When this happened to Paolo99, he asked for a few more minutes to ask his final questions. This is usually fine. He then took the lady to the room. If another customer comes in and wants to take her to the room and you are still being indecisive, the mamasan will probably pull the lady away so she can go with the other customer. (I unintentionally did this to another customer once. I came in looking for a lady I had gone with the day before. She was at a another table chatting with a customer and I didn't see her. I asked the mamasan for her by name. The mamasan immediately located her chatting at the table with another customer, laser pointered her over to me, I paid the mamasan and we immediately went to the room. I didn't know she was chatting with another customer. But he hadn't booked her table and was just talking with her. So she was essentially available and went to the room with me.)

If you want to "reserve" her time to drink and keep you company, it's the same cost as taking her to the room. 365 K for 1 hour. And it's called "booking table. " She won't leave until the hour is up. You can book another 1 hour table or take her to the room or leave. Up to you.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3005254]Thank you for sharing.

I saw Asian guys that have girls at the table for long time. I don't think the pay just girls drink, because girls look happy.

I read in another post that they pay the same price for hour (so, reading your ticket 240 k for xp1, and it may be thiket 3. 5 k, no room for sure). It may be you never pay more because that time was in the hour you paid.

But it's all so cheaper, that when I wish I just try to take a girls before or after sex, then I will see if ticket change (aside drink). All so cheaper, all so nice. .

If someone else know more about girl at table price, just share thanks. In every case, with this always good price, I will try.

Have a nice night.

Giovanni.[/QUOTE]

Visited the'Heaven in South Jakarta. Before I entered they mentioned that if I left and didn't choose a girl it would be 115,000. Went to the 2nd floor lounge area and a mamasan came over and started showing me pictures. I asked to see the girls in the real, which was denied. Got up walked out and paid the 115,000. Staff seemed in shock. But the whole reason to visit these places is to avoid the heavily beauty filtered and angled photos of online girls.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;3005257], it's the same cost as taking her to the room. 365 K for 1 hour. And it's called "booking table. " She won't leave until the hour is up. You can book another 1 hour table or take her to the room or leave. Up to you.[/QUOTE]I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3005262]I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".[/QUOTE]God what is so difficult here Mr. Bear. Go to the coffee shop, drink three beers by yourself. Or go over to the pool tables and drink beer by yourself.

When you decide you are going to drink your last beer get a girl; don't go over 20-30 minutes you won't be charged. There problem solved.

Except for that damn crack and meth in those indonesian cloves.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3005262]I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".[/QUOTE]Wow here is an idea. Go over to the coffee shop, by yourself, without a girl and lube up. Or go in the corner near the pool tables, by yourself and lube up.

Then when you think you are going to drink your last quart of "oil", start looking for goldilocks, Mr. Bear.

Then see what you can get away with. If mamasan is getting edgy, walking in circles around your table, its time to go upstairs. Simple dilemma with a simple solution.

Unlike this problem of them putting meth and crack cocaine in indonesian cloves.

Re: Point 1. With the volume of beer they go through nightly, I just don't think they have the refrigerator / cooler space to store cold beer. Or won't invest in it. Re: 2. Most of the waitresses don't speak any English and are simply unable to communicate this to you. While this scene welcomes foreigners and treats them the same as locals, it is not organized towards us or our needs.

You also have to look at this from the mamasan's perspective. The most important thing to her is getting her commission for writing the voucher for the lady. 1 voucher is 365 K = 1 hour in the room with the lady to fuck or 1 hour with her at the table as "booking table. " It's the same to the mamasan and it's mostly (see below) the same for the lady. So as long as the mamasan gets her commission and you paying for the lady's time, you should be fine.

If you are a single, solo foreigner, without a group of friends there, who doesn't speak much Indonesian that just walked into a brothel, the mamasan assumes you are there to fuck. It's also the path of least resistance to the mamasan getting her commission by getting you to the room to fuck.

Regarding drinking with the ladies. Not all ladies like to drink. If you just want to drink yourself and you don't care if she drinks, you should make this clear to the lady. If you book a table, she may assume you want her to get drunk with you. This is because this is what the locals like and do. If locals book a table, most of them are looking for the lady to keep pace drinking with them all night long, whether it is a bucket (or 4) of Guinness or hard alcohol like whiskey. If you just want to kick back and drink for an hour and chat with her, make sure you let the lady know she doesn't have to drink alcohol and can drink a pocari, tea, or whatever local non alcoholic drink there is. The skinnier ladies especially may not want to drink beer or hard alcohol with you as they don't want to get fat or don't want to get shit faced drunk for the rest of the night and not be able to work. (She'll probably happily take a glass of beer, or a shot of whiskey. But the local guys that go often want the lady to match them drink for drink or at least always be drinking.) So just make sure you let her know it's ok if she doesn't drink much.

However. If you REALLY want a lady to drink with you and match you. There is a subset of ladies that absolutely LOVE to drink with customers and get drunk and just party all night. Typically these are the "bigger" ladies, but not all. Just don't expect that out of your typical 40-45 kg spinner that many of us seem to like here.

Do you ever notice all those "reserved" table tents with names on them all throughout Classic if you get there before 5 or 6 PM? These are regulars that often show up after work. Many are Chinese-Indo businessmen that make a LOT of money. Some of these guys drop 10-15 million or more a night, every night on whiskey alone. Like at least 8-10 bottles a night. They are there every night with their colleagues or friends. All the ladies and all the staff know them. Some drink with the ladies for several hours and then go fuck (if their dick still works after all that drinking). Some guys never go up and just go there to get shit-faced drunk every night after work, fondle the lady some and hang out with their friends.

This is what some ladies are scared of for "booking table." Expecting them to drink A LOT or match you drinking. There is a subculture of ladies that gravitate to this. But all not ladies want to do this. So if you book a table, it would be advisable to let the lady know she doesn't have to drink alcohol with you or she may prefer to just go to the room to fuck and not "book table. " Again though, it depends on the lady.

Again, just let her know she can drink whatever, but you are the one who wants to drink and it should be fine.


[QUOTE=GentileBear;3005262]I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the in depth info NoGermaphobe!

By any chance any one know if LV (Elvie) still is at Classic? She is super cute -maybe 24 +/- short 5' 3" big tits and speaks good English. She would have been stationed on the couch to the Right of Classic's T2 immediately once you enter. Anyway. She had encouraged me to bring my Beer into the room. She got some Coffee drink. But come to think of it I had said "Right" to the waitresses in the hotel rooms of Classic. Because I assumed they knew what I had ordered "Beer Cold," "Bintang " and I said "Right" "Right" - then they brought a Sprite to our room. Elvie was smart enough with English to get the mis- communication of "Right and Sprite". Anyway. Got me thinking about her.

And just like Beer choices, sometimes you eat cheap food - like McDonalds Rice!! And sometimes you eat Salmon Steak ! But yeah, I gotta have COLD Beer - drinking luke warm beer with it being watered down by ice just sucks... But then again, I get it. Classic is not a Sky Bar on top of a 5 Star Hotel!!!

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3005202]Wow. What kind of VIP are you? That's normal in the basement club (costing twice of T2/ T5, but no idea why), but never seen it in T2. I'd tip that mama and stick to her if she did that for me.[/QUOTE]Wannabe VIP maybe, but in reality I have no clout, I've been to classic less than a dozen time. No idea why the different treatment, but yes I've told the mama I'll be looking for her next week when I'm back.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3005229]This is super interesting. I would love to get these options. Usually there are no discounts at all. 2 hours are 2 x 365, and overnight is five tickets 5 x 365.

I always assumed that prices were fixed in classic. This is why I never even tried to negotiate.[/QUOTE]My understanding is they are fixed, and I did pay the normal 365 for a short time in the room, I just needed a quick release, was not in the mood for either an extended session or overnight. I have never bothered trying to negotiate.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;3005292]Thanks for the in depth info NoGermaphobe!

By any chance any one know if LV (Elvie) still is at Classic? She is super cute -maybe 24 +/- short 5' 3" big tits and speaks good English. She would have been stationed on the couch to the Right of Classic's T2 immediately once you enter. Anyway. She had encouraged me to bring my Beer into the room. She got some Coffee drink. But come to think of it I had said "Right" to the waitresses in the hotel rooms of Classic. Because I assumed they knew what I had ordered "Beer Cold," "Bintang " and I said "Right" "Right" - then they brought a Sprite to our room. Elvie was smart enough with English to get the mis- communication of "Right and Sprite". Anyway. Got me thinking about her.

And just like Beer choices, sometimes you eat cheap food - like McDonalds Rice!! And sometimes you eat Salmon Steak ! But yeah, I gotta have COLD Beer - drinking luke warm beer with it being watered down by ice just sucks... But then again, I get it. Classic is not a Sky Bar on top of a 5 Star Hotel!!![/QUOTE]I've never had a Luke warm beer inside T2 but if you go down to the coffeeshop on the first floor by the main hotel lobby they have the big bottles of Bingtang ice cold for 55 k plus tax.

I had been chatting to David via WhatsApp while on the way to classic the night before, booked in for 5 pm as most girls start between 4-5. I wanted a legit massage as I had a few aches that have built up over the last few months.

So after turning up David was waiting for me in the lobby, we head up and I get my phone bagged, David lets me know the updated pricing for girls since my last visit 1. 4 standard and 1. 9 VIP includes better room.

I go get my massage, guy was strong for a little fella, did not realise my calfs needed so much work. Massage was for an hour, was good, then I sat in the spa area for a bit and downed a couple soda waters to help flush the toxins.

David found me and we head up to the lounge to look at the girls, run through my preferences he points out 3-4 who he thinks I will like and I choose a petite girl, who was VIP (black dress).

We chat for a little bit, her English is quite good, I find out later it's all from movies / tiktok and instagram.

Then we head off for the pool, I'm already changed from earlier, but she gets into her bikini and she really is quite cute. Into the pool and we fool around, it was busy earlier when I had a massage and drink, but now it's deserted so we have the place to ourselves.

I try out my Indonesian again and she helps correct a few words and teaches me a couple more, we have a good time and must have been in there for a while, I found she quite enjoyed a passionate kiss.

Then off to the room, with the usual preparations.

On the bed she offered a massage to start, I thought why not. This progressed to kisses over my body, then as a first she asked what I like, so we discussed my desires not anything out of the ordinary and then progressed. BBBJ, with ball sucking, she even managed a bit of DT, she also made the barest indication to check if I wanted a condom for the BJ, but then just jumped to it. Condom on and all positions tried, she had a lot of energy, was able to go for quite a while on top in maple styles, I have no idea how long we went for, but I ended up knackered.

We rested for a bit, and then she started to change the condom to keep going, but then suddenly asked "do you want to cum in my mouth", first time that's been proactively offered, so accepted.

And off she went BBBJ for another little while until I finished, she made sure to get everything and held its while she cleaned me up bit before surreptitiously spitting it out.

Then she cuddled up mostly lying atop me chatting etc.

We stayed until they rang for us to "check out".

Lovely girl, I'the take her again.

All in all I spent 2. 4 mil and 4 hours ish at emporium, sure its pricer than others options but I felt I got value.

WOW! Great find Gaijin. Both of them are cuties. Thanks for the pix (wink).

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3005170]With pix this time.[/QUOTE]

I remember visiting Cherry bar in my last trip. Had a great time with a young girl with tattoos. Massage was mediocre but session was good. Didn't know that Lokasari was very close to that place. Next time will explore Lokasari and its offerings. Thanks for the map with Purple markings (wink).

Badoo was helpful both in Bali and Jakarta. Haven't tried the TanTan app.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3004282]See attached map. The areas I marked in purple are where mamasans, and their girls, hang out.
I don't know anything about Cherry bar. Thus far I've only been to Travel and Lokasari.

I'm also having some luck on TanTan as well. Just set up a date with a 19 yo civvie student for Tuesday afternoon after her classes. She's looking for 'casual fun' with a foreign guy and wants to come straight to my room to watch porn and play. No money mentioned.
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[QUOTE=Dickaprio;3005341]I remember visiting Cherry bar in my last trip. Had a great time with a young girl with tattoos. Massage was mediocre but session was good. Didn't know that Lokasari was very close to that place. Next time will explore Lokasari and its offerings. Thanks for the map with Purple markings (wink).

Badoo was helpful both in Bali and Jakarta. Haven't tried the TanTan app.[/QUOTE]I had a look in Cherry bar and there was nobody in there so I kept going. Not really a bar guy anyway. And yes, it's just a few meters away from Lok. Enjoy the map. They'll find you before you even have a chance to figure out where you are, LOL. And they're happy to share their Whatsapp and those of their 'friends. '

Tantan has been a bit of a gold mine as well, and Badoo to a lesser degree. All the girls on Tinder have been hardcore pros. Nah thanks.

Does she have tattoos covering her see section scar? If not, can you tell me her name?

[QUOTE=Uphill69;3005336]I had been chatting to David via WhatsApp while on the way to classic the night before, booked in for 5 pm as most girls start between 4-5. I wanted a legit massage as I had a few aches that have built up over the last few months.

So after turning up David was waiting for me in the lobby, we head up and I get my phone bagged, David lets me know the updated pricing for girls since my last visit 1. 4 standard and 1. 9 VIP includes better room.

I go get my massage, guy was strong for a little fella, did not realise my calfs needed so much work. Massage was for an hour, was good, then I sat in the spa area for a bit and downed a couple soda waters to help flush the toxins.

David found me and we head up to the lounge to look at the girls, run through my preferences he points out 3-4 who he thinks I will like and I choose a petite girl, who was VIP (black dress)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uphill69;3005336]I had been chatting to David via WhatsApp while on the way to classic the night before, booked in for 5 pm as most girls start between 4-5. I wanted a legit massage as I had a few aches that have built up over the last few months.

So after turning up David was waiting for me in the lobby, we head up and I get my phone bagged, David lets me know the updated pricing for girls since my last visit 1. 4 standard and 1. 9 VIP includes better room.

I go get my massage, guy was strong for a little fella, did not realise my calfs needed so much work. Massage was for an hour, was good, then I sat in the spa area for a bit and downed a couple soda waters to help flush the toxins.

....[/QUOTE]Was the massage in pool area? Or in the room? And was it a guy doing massage or a girl?

Both are very cute and at 400 K a no brainer, lokasari has definitely better girls than classic and if topped with better service then man o man! Try to get her friendly contacts and expand your lokasari database, well done my man.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3005170]With pix this time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3005498]Both are very cute and at 400 K a no brainer, lokasari has definitely better girls than classic and if topped with better service then man o man! Try to get her friendly contacts and expand your lokasari database, well done my man.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. I wholeheartedly agree. Service was awesome too, I may have forgotten to mention that. I the week or so that I've been hanging out in Mangga Besar, I've estimated a dozen or so of these girls who can be found just about every day from mid-afternoon till very late. I made the mistake of giving one my Whatsapp and now she starts calling me incessantly every once in a while. Very cute though very, very good. I think I finally convinced her to stop, but without fail, she's there every time I take a craving for some KFC, LOL!

Will explore a bit further once I get my strength back up. Curious about Glodok (Chinatown). One of my goals this trip is to bang a hot Chindo girl but haven't see one on the streets yet.

TanTan and Michat are still proving to be very productive hunting grounds.

[QUOTE=Dickaprio;3005338]WOW! Great find Gaijin. Both of them are cuties. Thanks for the pix (wink).[/QUOTE]No worries, mate. I'll post more as the horizon expands.

[QUOTE=AssGuru;3005116]No idea why my last report asking for information was not uploaded. Trying again though.

I will arrive Jakarta again in June for about 2 weeks and will go RAW with all girls just like last time. Plan to do more than 18-20 girls this trip including DATY BBFS Anal Rimming and was wondering if brethren here could guide me how to avoid diseases including STD's. Pleasssse suggest and advise precautions to be taken before during and after the trip. Merci beaucoup.[/QUOTE]Bro, I will be there 2nd week of June (16 to 20), if you there lets plan to meet up.

I used to go to Malioboro but stopped going after the girls didn't go fully naked anymore. Are there still any bars where the girls will dance fully naked, or are these times over?

I'm considering a trip to Jakarta, for the first time (first time Indonesia as well). I've almost finished reading back from about November last year, but I'm not convinced (yet) if I should do it.
I'm a white guy, early 60's, tall, slim, and not that bad looking if I may say so myself. I hate condoms and am only after BBFSCIP from young ladies, preferably between 18 - 25. I can quite easily get that from 6's, 7's, and the occasional 8 in Pattaya, my usual hunting ground. So I'm wondering if it's worth all the hassle. I want to combine it with a trip to Thailand: two weeks Pattaya and one week Jakarta.
Some guys here seem to have loads of fun and say it's heaven on earth, while others are less enthusiastic and say it's OK but no more than that.

So what are the pros and cons of the girls in Jakarta, compared to the girls in Pattaya? Are the Jakarta girls generally sweeter, and do they give a better GFE? Or is that really hit or miss?
Or are you guys only going here because the girls are cheaper?

And another question: if I book a trip, I will arrive at the airport around 6 PM. So I guess I will have gone through immigration and collected my luggage around 7 or 7:30 PM. Will the rush hour be over by then and can I take a cab, or is it better to take the subway? I think I will be staying at the Redtop Hotel.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005802]I'm considering a trip to Jakarta, for the first time (first time Indonesia as well). I've almost finished reading back from about November last year, but I'm not convinced (yet) if I should do it.
I'm a white guy, early 60's, tall, slim, and not that bad looking if I may say so myself. I hate condoms and am only after BBFSCIP from young ladies, preferably between 18 - 25. I can quite easily get that from 6's, 7's, and the occasional 8 in Pattaya, my usual hunting ground. So I'm wondering if it's worth all the hassle. I want to combine it with a trip to Thailand: two weeks Pattaya and one week Jakarta.
Some guys here seem to have loads of fun and say it's heaven on earth, while others are less enthusiastic and say it's OK but no more than that.

So what are the pros and cons of the girls in Jakarta, compared to the girls in Pattaya? Are the Jakarta girls generally sweeter, and do they give a better GFE? Or is that really hit or miss?
Or are you guys only going here because the girls are cheaper?

And another question: if I book a trip, I will arrive at the airport around 6 PM. So I guess I will have gone through immigration and collected my luggage around 7 or 7:30 PM. Will the rush hour be over by then and can I take a cab, or is it better to take the subway? I think I will be staying at the Redtop Hotel.[/QUOTE]The only major con of Jakarta compared to TH is in Jakarta anal may be hard to get. I don't do anal, so not a problem for me.

My flight (from Bangkok) also landed at about that time. No problem taking a taxi to Jalan Peconongan. The ride lasted about 45 minutes. I guess at that time the rush hour is out of town. Since we're driving into town, no problem.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005802]

So what are the pros and cons of the girls in Jakarta, compared to the girls in Pattaya? Are the Jakarta girls generally sweeter, and do they give a better GFE? [/QUOTE]Jakarta Pro: outside of the hardcore bordellos BBCIP and GFE are very available. Even inside these, cash often talks. Jakarta girls are far less commercial than Pattaya. Easy to approach in the street. Not everyone will go with you but those that do are better quality. On average English is better. You don't say if you want ST, LT or fall in love but very low likelihood of runners or scammers. Jakarta is a major city with lots of cash floating around so everything from 10/10 models to overpass skanks are available. Surgeries are basically unheard of. Like for like, costs are waaay lower.

Cons: Traffic and layout. Jakarta is not walkable and the areas with lots of bars close together are now dead. You go to one club then travel to another. You don't pub crawl all night.

Pattaya Pros:

Pure availablity and that's it. 1000's of girls to choose from within walking distance.

In summary: if budget isn't a concern and you want immediate availability of a gazillion girls, then stay in Pattaya; if you want sweeter girls that may require a little more work, but know how to say thanks, then go to Jakarta.

G.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005802]I'm considering a trip to Jakarta, for the first time (first time Indonesia as well). I've almost finished reading back from about November last year, but I'm not convinced (yet) if I should do it.
I'm a white guy, early 60's, tall, slim, and not that bad looking if I may say so myself. I hate condoms and am only after BBFSCIP from young ladies, preferably between 18 - 25. I can quite easily get that from 6's, 7's, and the occasional 8 in Pattaya, my usual hunting ground. So I'm wondering if it's worth all the hassle. I want to combine it with a trip to Thailand: two weeks Pattaya and one week Jakarta.
Some guys here seem to have loads of fun and say it's heaven on earth, while others are less enthusiastic and say it's OK but no more than that.

So what are the pros and cons of the girls in Jakarta, compared to the girls in Pattaya? Are the Jakarta girls generally sweeter, and do they give a better GFE? Or is that really hit or miss?
Or are you guys only going here because the girls are cheaper?

And another question: if I book a trip, I will arrive at the airport around 6 PM. So I guess I will have gone through immigration and collected my luggage around 7 or 7:30 PM. Will the rush hour be over by then and can I take a cab, or is it better to take the subway? I think I will be staying at the Redtop Hotel.[/QUOTE]Jakarta is not Pattaya. The scene is geared to locals and works in its own way. I hate the plastic tattooed Thai girls and the commercial nature of sex in Pattaya. But if you want to hang out in bars buying ladies drinks etc then Jakarta is not the place. If you want sweeter unjaded natural younger girls, this is the place. But if you love Pattaya I suggest staying there because Jakarta is nothing like that.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3005818]You don't say if you want ST, LT or fall in love but very low likelihood of runners or scammers. [/QUOTE]I'm a wham bam thank you ma'am kind of guy, so ST is what I'm after. I hardly ever do LT anymore.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3005818]
Cons: Traffic and layout. Jakarta is not walkable and the areas with lots of bars close together are now dead. You go to one club then travel to another. You don't pub crawl all night. [/QUOTE]I'm not interested in pub crawling, and I prefer to have my sessions in the afternoon or early evening. So for my first trip I think I will stick to Classic and maybe Lokasari.
But Classic is also one of the reasons that I'm hesitating, because I do not really like bars and clubs. In Thailand I use Thai Friendly for the most part.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005833]In Thailand I use Thai Friendly for the most part.[/QUOTE]Online really isn't Jakarta strong suit. Not impossible but nowhere near as effective nor as time efficient as TF in Pattaya.

Classic, Travel etc are technically bars but you won't get pestered if you don't want to. Just be reasonably assertive that you want to sit first and relax.

G.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005833]So for my first trip I think I will stick to Classic and maybe Lokasari. But Classic is also one of the reasons that I'm hesitating, because I do not really like bars and clubs.[/QUOTE]There is nothing like Jakarta for its cornucopia of sex options, however the North Jakarta venues which are spoken most about on this thread are utterly unlike Pattaya. The blaring music and chain smoking patrons of venues like Travel, Kota Indah bars and Classic leave me with ringing ears and reeking clothes. Despite some saying that no condom is nearly a given with tipping in Classic or Travel, there are now several contrary reports on the certainty of BBFS at these venues with some girls. So I suggest to negotiate that aspect of the service directly with the girl, discreetly using Google Translate, before committing in these venues.

As for Lokasari, not much to add to what has been said below. As a newbie without contacts, you will probably encounter the same girls like Ranti, Icha, Angun, Caca, Ferah, Ayu, Fatemae, Melati, Puput, Nca, Tiara, Dina, etc (see pics posted earlier by others) that hang out daily. They will all happily take your creampie without fail, with all the STD risk that comes with the territory. Some of the girls are quite sweet, others are rather hardened. If you prefer your sessions earlier, then Lokasari will not be so good as most of the girls don't come out until after dusk, although there are exceptions. Get the WhatsApp from mamasan or the bug eyed pimp and they will flood you with messages flogging their stock of girls for daytime hookups. You will be more successful getting your preferences if you use Google Translate to communicate in Bahasa.

I would recommend giving Jakarta a try, even if only for a unique mongering experience. It honestly takes more time and effort to really optimize and expand your options, so don't expect the moon on your first shot. For me, there is something about the talent in Indonesia that keeps me coming back. To illustrate, I share a sweet as sugar 19 yo who rode me cowgirl to completion then looked back lovingly into the camera as I filmed the pull-out. If you are getting similar in Pattaya, then probably no benefit. If you pull the trigger, let us know how it goes. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3005855]... you will probably encounter the same girls like Ranti, Icha, Angun, Caca, Ferah, Ayu, Fatemae, Melati, Puput, Nca, Tiara, Dina, etc (see pics posted earlier by others) that hang out daily. They will all happily take your creampie without fail, with all the STD risk that comes with the territory. Some of the girls are quite sweet, others are rather hardened. If you prefer your sessions earlier, then Lokasari will not be so good as most of the girls don't come out until after dusk, although there are exceptions. Get the WhatsApp from mamasan or the bug eyed pimp and they will flood you with messages flogging their stock of girls for daytime hookups. You will be more successful getting your preferences if you use Google Translate to communicate in Bahasa....[/QUOTE]Exactly! Icha is the doggy style girl I posted earlier and Ranti is the one with the goofy ears on her head while blowing me.

Thanks for adding to my reports.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005802]I'm considering a trip to Jakarta, for the first time (first time Indonesia as well). I've almost finished reading back from about November last year, but I'm not convinced (yet) if I should do it.
I'm a white guy, early 60's, tall, slim, and not that bad looking if I may say so myself. I hate condoms and am only after BBFSCIP from young ladies, preferably between 18 - 25. I can quite easily get that from 6's, 7's, and the occasional 8 in Pattaya, my usual hunting ground. So I'm wondering if it's worth all the hassle. I want to combine it with a trip to Thailand: two weeks Pattaya and one week Jakarta.
Some guys here seem to have loads of fun and say it's heaven on earth, while others are less enthusiastic and say it's OK but no more than that.

So what are the pros and cons of the girls in Jakarta, compared to the girls in Pattaya? Are the Jakarta girls generally sweeter, and do they give a better GFE? Or is that really hit or miss?
Or are you guys only going here because the girls are cheaper?

And another question: if I book a trip, I will arrive at the airport around 6 PM. So I guess I will have gone through immigration and collected my luggage around 7 or 7:30 PM. Will the rush hour be over by then and can I take a cab, or is it better to take the subway? I think I will be staying at the Redtop Hotel.[/QUOTE]As someone who lived in Asia from 2000-2015 and am visiting again right now, I would say Jakarta is where you want to be 100%. I'm also mid-60's, decent looking guy and friendly, so there is no shortage of exactly what you are looking for here. I've done Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam. There's no comparison if you want young, good looking, zero inhibitions girls for as little as 300 k IDR anytime you want. Lokasari is my go-to destination, then Classic, then Travel. But I also spend a lot of time online using Michat and Tantan, which have proven to be gold mines. As far as hotels, I highly recommend Sparks Life or Luminor if you want to be within 3 min walk of Lokasari and only about 5 from Travel. Tons of food around here as well.

[QUOTE=XXL;3005811]The only major con of Jakarta compared to TH is in Jakarta anal may be hard to get. I don't do anal, so not a problem for me.

My flight (from Bangkok) also landed at about that time. No problem taking a taxi to Jalan Peconongan. The ride lasted about 45 minutes. I guess at that time the rush hour is out of town. Since we're driving into town, no problem.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% on the anal. It's basically almost impossible to get girls to do anal in Indonesia, atleast in my experience. That being said I would recommend Jakarta over Pattaya any day. The value for money here is unbeatable and it's not saturated with holiday-goers on every corner. I'm consistently getting BBFSCIP for 300 k rupiah ($18 usd) from lokasari girls and 400 k rupiah ($24 usd) from my civvies / semi-pros. In Pattaya, you will be paying more than that, with the bad exchange rate that is now the reality, even 1000 baht is over $30.

Not only is sex cheaper in Jakarta but so is food, lodging and transportation. I pay like 10 k to 15 k for my gojek rides. A complete dinner with ayam goreng, nasi putih, and Tempe Goreng costs me like 25 k from the street tents and my airbnb is like 120 k per day.

In Thailand a steak dinner at Patrick's will run you over $30 and in Jakarta the same quality steak dinner will cost you $8 at Jonisteak.

Venues like classic and travel are straight forward 365 k for the session no bullshit lady drinks to buy beforehand and if you do buy your girl a beer it's the same price as a regular beer you buy for yourself. Jakarta is straight up value and Pattaya is a tourist rip-off trying to milk every baht from your farang man boobs.

That being said, I do like the convenience of Thai Friendly. Having girls show up to your door at 4 am 20 minutes after first contact is quite impressive. Bareback sex is equally available in both locations. If you like fried pork belly there's more of that in Pattaya however I found a Chinese restaurant actually run by and catering to ethnic Chinese that serves pork belly here in Jakarta and it's actually near lokasari right across the street from hotel safari, alas it was overpriced compared to regular Indonesian food.

It's really going to come down to personal preference, if money is no concern then Pattaya may be better suited to him, but if he wants the most value then I'd go with Jakarta.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3005873]I agree 100% on the anal. It's basically almost impossible to get girls to do anal in Indonesia, atleast in my experience. That being said I would recommend Jakarta over Pattaya any day. The value for money here is unbeatable and it's not saturated with holiday-goers on every corner. I'm consistently getting BBFSCIP for 300 k rupiah ($18 usd) from lokasari girls and 400 k rupiah ($24 usd) from my civvies / semi-pros. In Pattaya, you will be paying more than that, with the bad exchange rate that is now the reality, even 1000 baht is over $30.

Not only is sex cheaper in Jakarta but so is food, lodging and transportation. I pay like 10 k to 15 k for my gojek rides. A complete dinner with ayam goreng, nasi putih, and Tempe Goreng costs me like 25 k from the street tents and my airbnb is like 120 k per day.

In Thailand a steak dinner at Patrick's will run you over $30 and in Jakarta the same quality steak dinner will cost you $8 at Jonisteak.

Venues like classic and travel are straight forward 365 k for the session no bullshit lady drinks to buy beforehand and if you do buy your girl a beer it's the same price as a regular beer you buy for yourself. Jakarta is straight up value and Pattaya is a tourist rip-off trying to milk every baht from your farang man boobs..[/QUOTE]That's spot on with what I've been paying. Where is this Airbnb of which you speak? Although I'm quite happy where I am, I'd probably prefer an Airbnb if it's still walkable to Lokasari.

Thanks a lot for the extensive replies and advise, guys. I really appreciate it, and will definitely post a report if I decide to go.

My success with anal is 75% with Classic and Emporium girls. You just have to fuck them good and ease them into it. I guess me being an Asian guy with average size dick helped, too!

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3005883]That's spot on with what I've been paying. Where is this Airbnb of which you speak? Although I'm quite happy where I am, I'd probably prefer an Airbnb if it's still walkable to Lokasari.[/QUOTE]It's not close to lokasari it's in pasar baru area about a 5 - 10 minute walk south of Classic. I like the area though. Lots of cheap food options and a little less busy than the mangga besar area, especially at night. On gojek it's about 10 k - 15 k to get to lokasari / mangga besar. I noticed tho that there is a metro station nearby called Sawah Besar and the next stop up is mangga besar so I may start trying to take the metro and learn how to ride it. It looks very similar to the metro in Medellin, Colombia which I have extensive experience with so I'm kinda curious to just buy a card and hop on the train and ride around Jakarta and see where it goes LOL.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3004936]Update 21/05/2025.


I picked a dark skinned girl that was sitting on the front bench toward the end of the 2nd set of bleechers (past the stage on the left).

She turned out to not be so great. Inexperienced in a bad way. Blow job skills were lacking, it felt like I was just putting my pecker into a hollow mouth bubble. Then she made me use a condom which just killed the entire vibe. It's like why do I go to the trouble to have a vasectomy and take all these different antibiotics antivirals and vaccines just to still use a condom. Needless to say I wasn't able to cum. Just not my cup of hierro.



-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I have a question to anyone that can chime in, I have an important question that might help everyone instead of all of the bickering and squabbling from so many in this thread.

If arranging BBFS via tips is so easy in the room, why can't it just be arranged before paying for the room?

TIA.

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2994451]The next day I sent David a text that I was coming back and I wanted to see Ria again. He arranged everything, I arrived 5 minutes early for my appointment, David had reception check me in and then he brought me to the lounge where Ria was already waiting for me. We picked up where we left off yesterday but this time we did the dry sauna and futon relaxation area before heading to the bedroom. Ria was just as hot and did not disappoint on this go around, just fantastic service all around. After we finished up and started cuddling she asked how long I would be staying in Jakarta. I let her know I would be there for a few more weeks. She said her day off was Sunday. I took that as a hint she wanted to hang out. I told her to come visit me on Sunday and we can go for lunch and a swim. She seemed excited by that prospect so we exchanged contact info and planned a meet up for Sunday.[/QUOTE]Hey man I found your field reports while searching through the thread, and I definitely want to hear the rest! I like your style. I too like to splurge when I travel and have dealt with my share of responses from cheap charlies on this board haha. Especially looking forward to your reports from seeking and other experiences outside of establishments. Hoping you have more to share!

P.S. It's wild that people complain about you tipping 500 K what is that like 30 bucks?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3005802]And another question: if I book a trip, I will arrive at the airport around 6 PM. So I guess I will have gone through immigration and collected my luggage around 7 or 7:30 PM. Will the rush hour be over by then and can I take a cab, or is it better to take the subway? I think I will be staying at the Redtop Hotel.[/QUOTE]Absolutely 100%, everybody has to try it at least once.

Get yourself an eVOA and then you can use the Automatic gates. Remember to also do your online customs and health check (although nobody looked at that when I last entered). If you are traveling lite then it is straight out to taxi / Grab within about 30 minutes of landing, if that. Was there last week and the process is quick, I arrived very early morning, and if I only had carry on I would have been land side in 10 minutes! The roads will be busy at 6 pm, even on a dry day. For reference it took me 1-1/2 hours to do the 11 km from North Jakarta to Senayan at 6 pm on a Tuesday, felt sorry for the Grab driver as the fair was only about 7 $.

Don't know about a week in Jakarta though, you may get bored very quickly. It is really a city with fuck all else to do. Probably the other reason why it has never lost its charm from a P4 P perspective. It ain't loaded with tourists. It's a gateway to Indo and business city, that's it. If you wanted to see the sites you are done in a day, even considering the traffic.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3003729]We then both showered together and I forgot how to say towel so I grabbed the towel and was like "ini nama?" and she replied "handuk" then I remembered LOL.[/QUOTE]As a Dutchman I thought this was funny, because the Dutch word for towel is 'handdoek', which is pronounced almost the same as 'handuk'.
This is probably not a coincidence, with Holland being the former colonizer of Indonesia.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;3005926]It's not close to lokasari it's in pasar baru area about a 5 - 10 minute walk south of Classic. I like the area though. Lots of cheap food options and a little less busy than the mangga besar area, especially at night. On gojek it's about 10 k - 15 k to get to lokasari / mangga besar. I noticed tho that there is a metro station nearby called Sawah Besar and the next stop up is mangga besar so I may start trying to take the metro and learn how to ride it. It looks very similar to the metro in Medellin, Colombia which I have extensive experience with so I'm kinda curious to just buy a card and hop on the train and ride around Jakarta and see where it goes LOL..[/QUOTE]I'll look in that area then, thanks. Yeah the metro could be very useful. I haven't had time to try it yet, but definitely plan to. Love riding the rails in Singapore and BKK. Gives on another way to potentially connect with civvies too.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3006044]As a Dutchman I thought this was funny, because the Dutch word for towel is 'handdoek', which is pronounced almost the same as 'handuk'.
This is probably not a coincidence, with Holland being the former colonizer of Indonesia.[/QUOTE]There are hundreds of them. For the same reason there are also parallels to Afrikaans.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_loanwords_in_Indonesian[/URL]

A couple days of non-mongering activities and I am back in Jakarta.

Arrived evening of the 25th, and popped over to classic hopping to catch mama ivon.

Unfortunately she did not appear to be working another mama pinned me down Diat / Dion maybe, I was weak and tired and just wanted to pop, so let her bring a line up.

One girl stood out to me Mayang, taller than I normally go for, maybe 5,8" but skinny, no baby, and what appeared to a nice pair of boobs.

Straight off to the room, no drink.

In the room we strip down and she was as expected, tall, slim with a nice handful.

Unfortunately performance was not great, BBBJ was toothy, perhaps I'm a bit girthy, minimal kissing, and she had no technique on top, tried all the usual positions, but just was not happening, could be because I was tired, she did try though, after 30 minutes or so I was really buggered, ended up finishing by hand with her sucking my balls, not the worst way to finish but is usually number 5-6 on the list.

Gave her 100 k tip as she never said no to any of my requests and put up with me pounding her in multiple repeat positions. She did ask for more but I shut that down.

Not on the repeat list for me, I need to stick with what I like which tend to be the shorter girls.

I was out of classic and back to the hotel in just over an hour of arriving.

26th.

Spent majority of the day at the hotel, had some work to catch up on, body was aching from non-mongering activities so called the spa to book a massage but they asked me to come down as english over the phone was bad and I could not make my Bahasa understood.

So hit the spa and there is a chubby girl at the desk, in her twenties, maybe a 6 on my scale, I was not looking for anything special just needed the aches worked out, even though the prices are set, she tried to negotiate a higher price 😉 I pointed out the set price, plus the discount I was entitled to, and that was settled, 90 minutes was still about double what I paid for the bloke in emporium.

Head to the massage room, strip down to my birthday suit and she starts the massage, which was actually pretty good, had the strength to really get into the muscles, I could tell from the start she was going to tickle my balls at every opportunity and was not disappointed.

On the flip she continued her good massage, and also worked the upper inner thigh with enough tease to get me to half-mast. So at about the hour mark she made her offer of a special massage, I was still of the mind not have a release, but asked her what she was offering, and everything was on the table, nude handjob, BJ or FS, and the price was what would I offer her, which I kind of find annoying, so I joked I'g give her 5000 for a BJ, then we had a bit of banter, she wanted 500 k for a nude handjob, I counter 200 k for a BJ and I say I am not convinced I want a special, so she went back to massage, but this time focused on the inner thigh and perineum, which did get me hard, so I said to myself what the hell, and we agreed 300 k for nude HJ with a bi of BJ and nipple sucking.

Now when she go to it, her BJ was so-so, but her HJ was very good, probably top 5, almost made me blow after a few minutes, but when I told her to back off as I wanted to last longer, she pulled back and so I had a really good 20 min cock and balls massage, she had a good instinct of my sensitivity level and would ease off so I did not cum until I wanted to, finally she finished me off with one of her tits in my mouth to stifle my moans so other patrons did not overhear.

Chubby girls are really not usually my type, but her service was excellent. Made me a sweet ginger tea after too.

Evening 26th,

Even though I'the had a decent pop in the afternoon, I thought I'the hit up classic a little later, got there about 8. 30, hopping to find Ivon again, but apparently she is still not working, picked up by a mama maybe Anira or similar, mole on her chin, got a table and soda water, she asks about ladies and I give my preferences.

I get a huge lineup, like 20+, and here I make a mistake, I spot one girl immediately cute small, big tits in a sailors uniform, but after I do the full circle there is a space where she was, so she either let, or some other mama or guy grabbed her, you snooze you lose, anyway there was another girl who had a bit of a different look with long wavy hair, which I am a sucker for and she was slim, pretty in innocent way, though her teeth were a little crooked, mama promised she gave good service (iv'e heard that line before), but was happy to chat with her for a bit, limited English but we got by with my limited Bahasa and her limited English, Her name is Mayang, 23, from Bandung and had only been working at classic for 7 days, My alarm bells started ringing her being new can mean poor service, but 365 k is cheap and so I think again what the hell, might end up being awesome, and if not I'll just come out an find another.

I offered her a drink and she ordered an avocado smoothie, then off to the room, and she deposited her drink with friends on the way to finish later. (I think I just paid for her dinner as it was 48 k).

Anyway in the room and undress and she was very slim almost too slim, but no baby so firm skin all over and sunken nipples. She did appear to have alot of bruises on her legs and butt her body from the waist up was unblemished, I asked about it and she said they were from mosquito's and I am assuming her butt was bruised from sitting on hard ground or similar.

Anyway, not starting off great, but we wash up I lay her down and try some kissing, she is willing, but I think quite inexperienced, so it was not great, kind of opened her mouth and hardened her lips over her teeth, tried to get her to relax as she had nice thick soft lips, but alas little success, so she sucked my nipples then I sucked hers with some fingering, which she sounded like she enjoyed.

Onto a BBBJ and she was not bad, not great, but better than I expected, hardly any tooth and she could get most of the way down and kept going for maybe 10 minutes, got pretty slobbery so had to clean up before getting the dom on, needed lube as she was small, but once going she was not bad on top, but tired after a while, which is just a practice / stamina thing given she is new, went to doggy, missionary, her on top again and prone bone, but she had no pelvic floor muscles so after a while felt nothing.

And then the bloody phone rang, I swear it was only 30 minutes in, but I forgot to set my timer so only going from a glance at my phone, but it was like 9. 20 and I only arrive at classic at 8. 30 per my grab and I'the sat had a drink etc.

To her credit we did keep trying for a few minutes, but I'the lost the will, so showered and got dressed.

I did give her a tip as I could not fault effort, she took all directions, and did it with a smile, the session cut short was the dodgy maintenance crew as it was busy and they were trying to turn over rooms, I had some words for them on the way out, not that they care but I felt better.

Saw her off, then went back to my table, it had been reset but I just plonked myself there and got another couple drinks over the next hour, also bought a couple dancers a shot for the hell of it, 40 k each, and for that they sat in my lap for a few minutes, groped me a bit, let me grope them quick kiss and then off to the next sucker.

About 10.30 felt I had my strength back for another session, I should have walked the couches, but did not, instead had a mama bring me some ladies, the pickings were slimmer than earlier, but one girl in the group appear very friendly, close to my type, but maybe a 7 so I told the mama I wanted to chat with her for a bit, enthusiasm can make up for a lot, she was exceptionally friendly and touchy which was different from most, ViVi apparently 19 but I'the say mid twenties she's slim but possibly a little bit of baby damage, was hard to quantify. She appear a little kooky and I probably should have bailed, again, but sometimes the kooky ones can provide good service.

Off to the room we go, I remember to remind the staff I have 1 hour so don't call early.

So we get one of the smallest rooms, barely space to put anything. She lay on the bed and pretends to go to sleep, and I think great, she is one of those who like to play around, so I play along, snuggle up and we embrace in bed like lovers with a bit of kissing, all good, then off to the shower.

We wash separately, and to be honest sometimes that is easier. Then onto the bed and she is teasing me with a BBBJ and then starts trying to negotiate a tip, that's a big turn off, I tell her that's something we can discuss after if I have a good time, anyway, her BBBJ is average, only takes the head in, though she does lick up and down the shaft and balls, I finger her a bit and she seems small, so might be interesting, anyway on with the Dom and some lube and she gets on top and sinks all the way down and starts grinding, 😞 no real technique, I try reposition her a few times, then decide I'll have to take control in missionary or doggy so I pull out and I notice she has a tissue in her hand which she uses to white the dom and herself and its red, warning, warning, danger will Robinson. Oh oh, what's going on her, I suspect her period started and she knew and hoped to hide it, she then says its because I am too big, but I don't by it, she wants me to continue, which seals my confirmation that she knew, almost every girl Iv'e know p4 p or otherwise who has had an unexpected bleed has wanted to stop.

Iv'e had sex sex with partners before at the start or end of periods, if they are keen also as its a known scenario, but blood with an unknown even when I am almost positive its a period is a big no no, so I hop in the shower and clean up, she keeps going on about tidak bagus and pointing to her pussy which means "not good" and that she is so sorry etc, I check the time and we still have 25 minutes, she cleans up also then offer a BJ, so I let her go for it and eventually take over an finish with her sucking my balls.

That's 2 days in a row, and it's all my own fault breaking my usual criteria.

At least I got full room time, had a proper 10 min warning call and my alarm went off as we walked out of the room and I had set it as we walked in. Got to take your wins as they come. .

So a reminder to self.

You snooze you lose.

Don't deviate from your preferences, you have them for a reason.