Moscow

[QUOTE=Kurenda]Strav, check my post where I talked about Vladivostok as top mongering destination.[/QUOTE]I remember your post about Vladivostok, but a picture is worth a thousand words.

[QUOTE=Kurenda]Pizdyets, what you don't like Checnya and Ingushetia, they are at the bottom of the list?
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I figured someone would ask that question. The answer is simple. Kalmyk are Buddhists, while the majority of the guys down there in the asshole of Russia (eg Chechens, Ingush, Avars, Dargins, Lezgins, Kumyks...) are Muslims. If you fuck a Buddhist's sister, he's likely to invite you over for shashlik. Fuck a Muslim's sister, and he's likely to invite you over, cut you up, and serve you [b]as[/b] shashlik. Don't get me wrong, I think Chechen girls are super hot. I'd just rather keep my testicles attached to the rest of my body, thank you very much.

Oh, and I do enjoy a good chess match!

On that attachment of Latex's, the lightest blue color is the poorest GDP.
On the big map, those are regions, right?

What's that light blue region in the center?

Its Kostroma.

Ok Kurenda, need a monger report on Kostroma.

That has to be the place for trashiest russian white slavic trash, aka, the Motherload of the Motherland, to spurt the mother of all loads into the mother I'd like to fuck.

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]On that attachment of Latex's, the lightest blue color is the poorest GDP.
On the big map, those are regions, right?

What's that light blue region in the center?[/QUOTE]

Lake Baikal...

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Its Kostroma.

Ok Kurenda, need a monger report on Kostroma.

That has to be the place for trashiest russian white slavic trash, aka, the Motherload of the Motherland, to spurt the mother of all loads into the mother I'd like to fuck.[/QUOTE]

I've actually been there - as part of a Golden Ring tour. The Resurrection Church there is one of the most beautiful in Russia. Like any of the smaller cities outside of Moscow, the girls are just as cute and much more available than in the big city. Furthermore, the White God Factor is still alive and well in such places. As for Kostroma, it didn't seem any poorer than, say, Vladimir or Ivanovo. Regional focus is on textile production, so typical blue collar work.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]

As for Kostroma, it didn't seem any poorer than, say, Vladimir or Ivanovo.

Regional focus.

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For some reason, at least in the map, its GDP is lower, so if you look at the rest of the region, there doesn't seem too much of anything except tiny country villages, not that the other regions are different in that respect.

I did try to follow the train routes, to see where they transit to, and they don't seem to transit to anywhere. Maybe in the other "Ring" oblasts, it seems that you pass through them, and eventually you end up somehwere, but transiting through Kostroma oblast, you end up nowhere except ZhopaFuck, FSU.

So at least in those other oblasts, they get some transit business, after leaving Moscow, there are the first ring of oblasts, then the second ring, like Kostroma, seems to be the one region, that if you continue onward, you end up in nothing, that is to say, Kostroma is the end of the line, and you've gone all the way, and at the end, there's nothing there, except maybe reindeer turds?

Still, the small regional city on the Volga looks like a perfect place to monger. I guess the best option would be to have a nice yacht, and sail down the river from May to September, stopping in each city for a week or two, to taste the local flavor, maybe pick up a few galley wh0res along the way to swab your deck and clean out your bilges.

Ah, if only I was an Oligarch......

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]
Still, the small regional city on the Volga looks like a perfect place to monger. I guess the best option would be to have a nice yacht, and sail down the river from May to September, stopping in each city for a week or two, to taste the local flavor, maybe pick up a few galley wh0res along the way to swab your deck and clean out your bilges.

Ah, if only I was an Oligarch......[/QUOTE]

Yup - Voronezh ranks below Kostroma in terms of GDP per capita. And you're almost assured of finding a red-blooded Slavic hottie willing to do most anything there... Though I'm the last person to be schooling the Master of the Regions, aren't I?

Hey fellow mongerers in Moscow. I will be in Moscow in the first three days of August and I would like to know whether eva.escort.ru is a good escort agency? Do you recommend?

Thank you in advance?

My view is that its most likely to catch a virus from that site. I mean a computer virus. All that advertising and thoe colours and layout are a warning to beware.
Regards Aurora 911 and paying 10,000 rubles for one hour plus entry and drinks and dances etc etc. Gee! they is ripping us off. Bring back old Safari and Shandra.
Its one thing Aurora 911 fails to understand is that if you offer good and fair service you will get more customers and make even more money. Just overpricing a few customers just gives them even less customers. Once bitten twice shy rules in Moscow. Cheers Nickc

[QUOTE=Latexian2][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_subdivisions_GRP_per_capita.svg[/url]

Note that is GDP per capita and not average salary, so take that with a grain of salt. Still, I think it highly correlates to salary. Basically it's what you expect, Moscow and Petersburg along with oil-rich Eastern Siberia have the highest GDP per capita. The Volga region does well also. But the "black earth" belt is pretty far down the totem pole, and has lots of medium sized cities which are perfect for the monger. Big enough to be interesting during down time and to be able to date multiple girls with no issues, but small enough to be cheap so you can be the big fish.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's by far a semplification... GDP is far different with salary. Some eastern Siberia regions are at the moment one of the 10 parts of the world with higher GDP, but they still live in poor dachas.... Same for Moscow in the "bigger Moscow" (you get to the town by unexpencive ride with eletricka and metro) the salaries are still around 200-300 USD.

A skilled and trained metro driver (a safe job with some housing benefits) gets approx 15.000 - 18.000 RUR a month (after training, some year service etc) which is at maximum a poor 400 €, but usually he/she gets a 45-50 sq meter flat for 100 € a month or so (including heating, eletricity, water and local phone) in the area of the train deposit. The same netto income in WE is between 1.700-2.500 € both usually for 36 hours a week.

Girls making low class works, or studying, normally rent a flat an live there in 3-5 to share the cost: usually 400-500 USD a month very far from the centre... usually in suburb cities (dormitories like Zelenograd) 1,5 hours ride with the efficent soviet era transports (i'm not joking!). Their income as waiters, shop assistant, low level clerks etc is always lower than the metro driver. Of course you might find very skilled 25-28 y.o. nice girls, may be working for a big western company, for a bank, or the municipality, often more paid than in Berlin or NY, but they are very very few. Herd of high ranking clerks at 5.000 USD/month, not directors obviously... The get much more in today's Russia!

Just my two cents

IT

[QUOTE=Nickc]My view is that its most likely to catch a virus from that site. I mean a computer virus. All that advertising and thoe colours and layout are a warning to beware.
Regards Aurora 911 and paying 10,000 rubles for one hour plus entry and drinks and dances etc etc. Gee! they is ripping us off. Bring back old Safari and Shandra.
Its one thing Aurora 911 fails to understand is that if you offer good and fair service you will get more customers and make even more money. Just overpricing a few customers just gives them even less customers. Once bitten twice shy rules in Moscow. Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]

In [url]www.intimcity.ru[/url] you find acceptable girls for 10.000 RUR/night not hour! and you get no virus! (the PC I mean!)

May be not a beauty but 9000 RUR (anal BBBJ, CIM, Facial included) poper not retouched or photoshopped photos... not a beauty but good comments, I'm not pimping just making a sample.... [url]http://www.intimcity.ru/persons.php?id=83049&style=1[/url]

Of course if you go in higher price class you'll find stunners like the Sharapova.... may be 15-20 kRUR night but 10.000 RUR/hour is a real Ripoff!

IT

[QUOTE=It Travel]Yeah it's by far a semplification... GDP is far different with salary. Some eastern Siberia regions are at the moment one of the 10 parts of the world with higher GDP, but they still live in poor dachas.... Same for Moscow in the "bigger Moscow" (you get to the town by unexpencive ride with eletricka and metro) the salaries are still around 200-300 USD.[/QUOTE]Podmoskove isn't so nice, I agree, but salaries surely are higher than 200-300 USD considering the Russian average is over 500 USD. I would guess in the neighborhood of 700-1000 USD isn't far from typical (obviously students make less than that).

hey fellow mongers,
there has been much written about gypsy cabs and security in general in moscow. i want to share a data point and to raise a warning about the potential danger of using gypsy cabs in moscow. just to clarify, the gypsy cabs i am referring to are the privately owned cabs whom cruise streets of moscow looking for clients to drive around town at the wave of a hand. it's normally and affordable and efficient way to get around an otherwise very expensive city.

the ex-girlfriend of an expat friend of mine was coming home from a popular night club a few weeks ago. sure she was drunk, like many party girls, when she left the club but not falling down. she has used gypsy cabs countless times without incident so there was no reason to believe she was in any danger. she walked out to the street to flag down a cab but before she could even get her hand out, a fairly nice bmw or audi pulls over and the driver offers her a ride. naturally, despite the well groomed caucasian (from caucasus) driver, a ride home in a nice german car was much more attractive than a stinky broken down lada.

on the way home the conversation was light and when she asked him to pull over at a kiosk so she could buy some water, he jumped out and offered to buy her some as he wanted to pick up some beer. he returned to the car and went through the motions of removing the cap and handing her a nice cool bottle of water while he put the car and gear and they drove off.

that was her last memory until she woke up several hours later on a park bench in a strange park of town. her cell phone was gone. her purse was empty, her wallet was gone. and while her clothes were more of less intact, she knew that she had been raped.

she went to the police and while being sympathetic, they explained that this sort of thing is happening with increasing frequency. gypsy cab guys are drugging unsuspecting well dressed targets and rolling them. but it did not stop there. later that day she went online and was shocked to discover that during the course of the trip she (they) had withdrawn over $3500 in debit card withdrawals and cash advances.

this is not a working girl. she's a very attractive and well educated and sophisticated lady and while i must admit i am trying to "jump her bones" she's still a friend and hearing about her unfortunate experience makes me sick.

as more time passes, she has flashbacks and faint recollections of trying to push him off her. she remembers trying to fight back but her limbs were powerless. she was responsive to suggestions and even thinks she may have even typed in her pin codes herself at the bankomats. either that or she was compliant in repeating her pin. apparently there are several "date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" drugs that will render you totally compliant to suggestion and often powerless to fight back.

this could happen to anyone. male or female.

do not get in a cab that stops and offers you a ride. get out on the street and wave one down. sure the same thing could happen, but you are much likely to be a victim if you are the one selecting the driver. one who stops and offers is probably selecting you because of the way you are dressed, your age, gender, etc. this warning also applies to the guys at the airport. if they are choosing you, it's probably not random.

these guys are predators and they are watching you. be careful guys.

It seems to me this kid of incident has been reported on before: someone accepted something to drink from a cab driver and was lucky to survive the experience.

It will be tough to get around Moscow without using gypsy cabs. It seems to me the more important warning is not to accept any kind of food or drink from strangers, particularly gypsy cab drivers. And bartenders at Hot Dog's!

And, yes, if someone pulls over and targets you for a pick-up, then probably best to look elsewhere and flag down your own ride. But I can't imagine how you would get around town without gypsy cabs, particularly after midnight.

I know may be I’m speaking like an old soviet style guy but…. There are lots of advices here. I must say I am going to Moscow since it was the heard of Soviet Union so maybe I know something!

Let’s start from the end :D

AIRPORT
The gipsy taxi (usually with fake ID’s) knows well that you have all your belongings with you when you arrive at the airport: cash, camera, clothes, luggage, may be a PC and most of all passport and Credit Cards.

The way in avoiding any hassle is very very simple. Reserve a transfer from/to the airport from a major agency. Both Intourist and Akademservice (reliable agencies) have booths at SVO and DME or can be contacted by phone, service is reliable (30-60 USD), always on time (they have hundreds of drivers) and 100% safe. You do not even pay the driver, you pay the company and even get the invoice. Normally you get the driver at the booth escorting you to the car, otherwise when they pick you up at the hotel they usually communicate the plate and the car type!

CITY
The safest and fastest way to get around is, by far, the metro! Learn some Cyrillic and use it, but it closes at 1.30 a.m. (but opens again at 5.30 a.m. ;) for those who are real late!

Getting a long taxi ride in the middle of the night might be problematic in real safety. As Jake says might that gipsy taxi are only old/cheap cars! May be a Lada or a old Opel imported used from Germany 10 years ago… no BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Lexus! Avoid lifts!

The best ways (some time used but a little bit expensive) are three.

1) When you get out of your hotel ask for the number of the hotel taxi service… (they all have one, or with the name of the hotel and/or well identifiable like taxis, usually some times new Volgas, or medium sized European or Japanese cars. Kempinski has a Maybach!) I’ts expensive, usually a start rate at 500/800 RUR but totally safe.
2) If you speak acceptable Russian you can just phone a taxi company, and they will answer usually with the plate number of the car the time and the price. Sometime you will get the plate number by SMS. The taxi companies in Moscow are hundreds (legal and safe ones).
3) Hire a private driver (lists on Moscow Times or on several internet sites). Thre are still drivers with own old Ladas you can hire for approx. 20 USD/hour, just tell him by phone that you will be out of the bar, restaurant, club at around 2.30 a.m. the guy will wait to 3.30 no problem.

The last is my favorite method and I use always the same guy so… easy to recognize. But in 90% I use the metro.

PAPERS

By the way in Moscow now all that’s expencive is payable with a Credit Card (apart girls! No card strip in the pussy! :p :p ) so practically you need to limit the sum you can take out from an ATM. My cards are all limited to 250 € (or closer equivalent) per day of cash, when mongering I take some cash with me too…

If you need for some reason some more cash there is always the “Old Method” go to a bank with your passport, card and ask for an advance… take some minutes but it’s much safer!

By the way one of the most searched items is your Passport with visa. It might be used before you are even at the police! So the safe way is. Leave the passport at the hotel, get with you a copy of the passport, a copy of the visa page, the copy of the number issued from OVIR, your national ID card or your driving licence and a proof that you are in that hotel.

In Russia it should be mandatory to carry your passport always, but I have been stopped some times by the police, both in car both walking with no passport and this papers, just checking and saying nothing. In the worst case they could fine you some hundred roubles… (of course for huge shopping or other things you might need the passport for using the credit card!).

Just my two cents

IT