Hmmm- prices impacting attendance.
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2978259]I imagine having people concerned about the prices is a good thing for all. My only observation is it appears you are basing your opinion on what you read here and have not been lately. I don't think the service has dropped that much. Sure someone might expect more for a 100. But, my limited experience was it could be a little hit and miss at 50 too. My BS meter is beeping is all I am saying.[/QUOTE]I totally understand why you might think that it's suspect for anyone to say they might avoid coming due to the risk of a bad session of 100/30. But I think the principle behind Turgid's post is actually very well founded and not BS at all. Until 2 years ago I was a regular at FKKs. When I say regular I mean for a tourist flying in. But I would go out of my way to make 5 or 6 trips per year to FKK land. Mostly to FRA due to the variety of options although I've posted reports on multiple other clubs including Artemis, Harmony, Atmos, Sukura, Sunshine, Romer, Oceans, Living Room, Acapulco, Samya and many others. I love the whole FKK set up, arriving afternoon, session, sauna, professional massage, recovery, session, food, and love the outdoors of Oase, World in summer and even Sharks despite the wasps!
I lamented the price increase from the incredible days in Samya (about 2014/15) when you could do first 30 minutes for 50 euros then 25 euros per 30 minutes after that. I was happy to take 2 or 3 girls, buy some champagne and party. The new law in 2017 didn't help initially with girls taking advantage of being able to charge more for BBBJ (Artemis especially) but then when Covid hit I'm afraid the girls' mentality all changed. Suddenly, at Sharks 150/ hour was the absolute minimum and many girls started charging 200/ hour (especially the popular ones). Once you get to that level, FKKs do not become economically viable compared to other good options around Europe. By the time you pay the 75 entry at Palace, or 65 at Sharks, if (like me) you enjoy taking 2 or 3 girls for short rooms but then one favourite for say 2 or 3 hours, the experience becomes really very expensive (particularly if you then add extra costs for special services). It has virtually killed off threesomes and more unless you can get a real kick out of one for a measly 30 minutes. When the prices were 50/30 and 100/ hour, it was very easy to get girls to do attractive deals for 2 or 3 hours. Faced with the option of sitting on a stool for hours with no interest, and no cash, tell a girl then that instead of 300 for 3 hours you would guarantee 200 for 3 hours and throw in some drinks and maybe do one extra service. That might take you to 250 (plus drinks) per girl, so I would perhaps persuade 2 to go for that deal. 500/3 hours 2 girls, some drinks and if it was amazing a tip. I would know the session would be good because I would have taken one or both of them for a quick 30 minutes session (50) earlier as a tester.
Trying to repeat that now is VERY expensive. Girls don't want to negotiate for 3 hours because they are happy working an hour for 200 minimum, waiting 2 hours and repeating.
And "tester" sessions at 100/30 are just too expensive and not good value.
My other modus instead of the above was a "day of delights". At 50/30 I would try to do 8 of them in a day. Great fun having sex with that many girls. Of course I couldn't pop with more than 2 of them but it didn't matter. Just enjoying the experience was amazing. 400 euros to have sex with 8 girls! Now it's double. Sure some of those sessions might not be great but it didn't matter. It was 50 euros!
I'm sad to say in 2024 I didn't return to an FKK. I miss it for the reasons set out above. But the cost / benefit doesn't really work anymore. I know prices have gone up in everything so I don't begrudge the girls wanting to make a reasonable return. I will 100% return to an FKK at some point as I love the experience, but it won't be as often and it isn't the same experience it once was as it has unquestionably become more expensive. The expense caused me to start attending and only having perhaps x2 sessions with one girl at a time. Given that, I am as well to try other options for similar prices. Leaving aside that I now much prefer Dubai and Thailand (cannot make a sensible comparison with the latter due to crazy low costs) even in the UK there are good options at 100/ hour (no extra money for special services). In London 150/ hour is very available for some excellent options. No. It doesn't match being surrounded by 100 naked women, but the sex is as good for a lot less money.
So cost / benefit of FKKs has seriously diminished to the point that I believe many tourists may now consider it not worth it. Great news for locals in Germany, but definitely not great news for the girls in the clubs. Restaurants have been known to "price themselves out of business". For me, FKKs are fast approaching that risk. Any further hike in prices would IMHO virtually kill them off. That would be a real shame. But getting the balance right between financial viability and what the market will take, or greed, can mean that business is not good. I attend clubs in Spain a lot. Several have closed. It is because there too. Prices have escalated too high that punters are abandoning them.
So if anything should be beeping instead of your BS meter, it should be the open or closed signs at FKKs. The pricing structures might just kill them off.