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[QUOTE=Confiable;2419318]Totally agree. You have guys that go to other countries and act ignorant. Treat the women like they are a carnival ride at the amusement park. The reason you see some women ask for money up front is because they have been burnt by a monger. The guy gives them half the money he agreed to pay or he gives them nothing. If men do these types of things and treat women badly in their country. Why would it be any different in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]There are always two sides to the story. I am sure mongers do not disrespect girls anywhere but at the same time have to be on guard. Not all girls okay fair. Many times pushes mongers to the limit. I am sure it happened to everybody. Case in point us I had a normal chica who stayed with me three days. Sweet, innocent aiming to please. I took care of her very well and trusted her. On the last I was not being careful to lock my phone. She stole the phone before leaving.
No need to treat girls badly but need to let them know you mean business. Otherwise they will use you and exploit your nice demeanor. Remember vast majority are seasoned prostitutes and they will never think twice about stealing, not providing good service, not sticking to the original deal etc.
Very few mongers are into dating there. Even if some come across as being two day old virgins, they are in the business.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2419348]There are always two sides to the story. I am sure mongers do not disrespect girls anywhere but at the same time have to be on guard. Not all girls okay fair. Many times pushes mongers to the limit. I am sure it happened to everybody. Case in point us I had a normal chica who stayed with me three days. Sweet, innocent aiming to please. I took care of her very well and trusted her. On the last I was not being careful to lock my phone. She stole the phone before leaving.
No need to treat girls badly but need to let them know you mean business. Otherwise they will use you and exploit your nice demeanor. Remember vast majority are seasoned prostitutes and they will never think twice about stealing, not providing good service, not sticking to the original deal etc.
Very few mongers are into dating there. Even if some come across as being two day old virgins, they are in the business.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct about it being two sides of the story. I don't think anyone is denying that. We are just shedding light on the side that doesn't get talked about a lot.
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[QUOTE=Confiable;2419364]You are absolutely correct about it being two sides of the story. I don't think anyone is denying that. We are just shedding light on the side that doesn't get talked about a lot.[/QUOTE]Lol.
It does get talked about a lot among the chicas.
You should hear what I hear about mongers, Lol, from my circle of chicas, over drinks! Too bad they don't have a Forum here on ISG for some balance!
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2419379]Lol.
It does get talked about a lot among the chicas.
You should hear what I hear about mongers, Lol, from my circle of chicas, over drinks! Too bad they don't have a Forum here on ISG for some balance![/QUOTE]It would be super interesting to hear their perspective.
I know some dominicans see gringos as show offs. They say, they come here and act rich, but in their country they not rich. There's some truth to that. But most guys are just enjoying a hard earned vacation while also enjoying the exchange rate.
I've also had chicas complain that I pay the same price I paid 2 years ago. They seem to have no concept of supply and demand. LOL. Its all good, just interesting.
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Same experience
I was there 2 weeks ago and had the same experience Ahnvee is a great venue. Plenty of room and women. No one enjoyed Classicos any more then me but I did not miss it. What I did miss was sitting in front of El flow and watching afternoon action stroll the streets. One of my buddies is on the ground giving me updates. Says the place is packed and he is having a ball.
[QUOTE=Newport;2419181]Just got back from my first visit in 2 years. If I didn't go with my gut instinct and listened to everything I've read in this thread, one would think Sosua dried up like the desert, with empty presidente bottles left behind.
I enjoyed my stay, just like I've had on many trips in the past 12 years.
Ahnvee is the spot to be, finally they brought some style and class to the neighborhood, I really enjoyed everything about the outdoor party, the variety was top notch. The place has something for everyone.
Yesterday I was grabbing an early evening drink after a day at the beach, I stopped by the big outdoor corner spot across the street from Bourbon, I believe its called "Keens", idk for sure. There were about 3 tables with 4 chicas sitting at each, some gents along the bar stools including myself, and a few scattered around, it was not many people. As soon as I took my first sip from the bottle, a marked police truck rolled up, along with an unmarked truck with military looking personal, and some people that said municipal on their shirts, they walked in like a scene out of CSI, small crowds gathered looking at the commotion, I kept sipping my drink watching the show, minutes later the waitress came up with my check, I paid right away, continued enjoying my drink, the chicas were escorted out the back gate, after about 15-20 mins, the owner comes up to me and a coupe gents, asks us respectfully to finish our drinks and if all goes well come back in an hour.
The neighborhood did change, it feels a bit quieter, but its not dead, its not boring, they just cleaned it up a bit. It went under the radar for decades, and I have a good feeling in a matter of years, things will go back to the old grimy scene that it was made for. We have to keep in mind, it is election year as well.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2419429]It would be super interesting to hear their perspective.
I know some dominicans see gringos as show offs. They say, they come here and act rich, but in their country they not rich. There's some truth to that. But most guys are just enjoying a hard earned vacation while also enjoying the exchange rate.
I've also had chicas complain that I pay the same price I paid 2 years ago. They seem to have no concept of supply and demand. LOL. Its all good, just interesting.[/QUOTE]It is fun.
I spend far more time with local semi pros and ex hookers than with ex pats, and mongers. Some I've known for 10 years. Some are are now sad sacks that I help out with a few pesos when they are hungry (for old times sake, Lol) and quickly send them on their way.
I'm retired. Back home we have 5 months of winter, guys my age are dying like flies. Here in the sun you can add a few more healthy and happy years to your life. Even on a limited budget, you can feel rich here.
Typically, while I'm having a beer in my local bar, We got a young local beauty that would stop traffic back home, who goes down the street and does my shopping, agua, leche, pan, coffee, fruta, imported beer. Yesterday she sent a chico to climb to the very top of a big tree to get me some ripe mangos. I buy her a beer. And promise that one day when my regular is not around, I'll fuck her. She tells me what she'll do for me! We've been having this same conversation for the last 3 years, but she's just a good amiga, one of our circle of locals.
Life is good, Brother P, and it looks like you have figured how to max it out!
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Hey fellas,
Wondering if I can get your advice on the Su as it is currently. I had my first ever trip down to the Su last year in January and tbh I didn't much enjoy it. I, however, really think that was due to some mistakes I made rather than the Su itself. It was my first mongering experience and I wasn't savvy to the culture. I wanted to try it out again, but it seems like the Su has changed drastically from just a year ago. Seems like all of the talent is concentrated at Ahnvee.
My first trip I stayed at Hotel Europa and it was a good choice for a newbie I felt. I have heard from other brothers that Europa is still a viable spot for the current scene in the Su. Is this true or are there other places to stay that you guys would suggest over Europa? What can I expect to pay in moto or taxi fees to Ahnvee from Europa? Are there other spots for chicas outside of Ahnvee? Have heard daytime action is largely based around the beach and baileys. Apologies for the wave of questions, but I am trying to make sure I put in my due diligence in research so that my 2nd go at Su hopefully goes better.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2419348]No need to treat girls badly but need to let them know you mean business. Otherwise they will use you and exploit your nice demeanor. Remember vast majority are seasoned prostitutes and they will never think twice about stealing, not providing good service, not sticking to the original deal etc.[/QUOTE]I'm with Sammon on this one. Who gives a fuck what the prostitutes think? I know I don't. Anymore than I do about what my mechanic thinks of me when I have the oil changed in my vehicle, what the server thinks of me because I order water in the restaurant and drink at home (that's how I can afford my vehicle) or the person checking me out of the grocery store thinks about what I am buying. They are there to do their jobs and perform their service. If they act like professionals they will earn the treatment of a professional. Someone said something similar about respect. It's in the record.
Note that this principle is applicable if you live / visit Sosua or Santo Domingo.
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[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2419599]Hey fellas,
Wondering if I can get your advice on the Su as it is currently. I had my first ever trip down to the Su last year in January and tbh I didn't much enjoy it. I, however, really think that was due to some mistakes I made rather than the Su itself. It was my first mongering experience and I wasn't savvy to the culture. I wanted to try it out again, but it seems like the Su has changed drastically from just a year ago. Seems like all of the talent is concentrated at Ahnvee.
My first trip I stayed at Hotel Europa and it was a good choice for a newbie I felt. I have heard from other brothers that Europa is still a viable spot for the current scene in the Su. Is this true or are there other places to stay that you guys would suggest over Europa? What can I expect to pay in moto or taxi fees to Ahnvee from Europa? Are there other spots for chicas outside of Ahnvee? Have heard daytime action is largely based around the beach and baileys. Apologies for the wave of questions, but I am trying to make sure I put in my due diligence in research so that my 2nd go at Su hopefully goes better.[/QUOTE]Read my post below, (and others) it covers the bar closing situations, the SW locations, and the dispersal of the action to the outskirts, but it is still a small town, and you can get to the main places on a short moto ride. Afternoons there is action at the main beach.
As for hotels, the heart of the new action, is Ahnvee, but has gotten mixed reviews here! My recommendations for relatively inexpensive hotels have been consist, New Garden and Europe, never had a serious complaint if you pay attention to basics, proximity to noise etc.
NG is close to casual street action, and Europe is now more central to the area at large.
Maybe other posters will add answers to your questions.
Good luck, and let us know!
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Hey Sosua Playa
[QUOTE=SosuaPlaya;2419599]Hey fellas,
Wondering if I can get your advice on the Su as it is currently. I had my first ever trip down to the Su last year in January and tbh I didn't much enjoy it. I, however, really think that was due to some mistakes I made rather than the Su itself. It was my first mongering experience and I wasn't savvy to the culture. I wanted to try it out again, but it seems like the Su has changed drastically from just a year ago. Seems like all of the talent is concentrated at Ahnvee.
My first trip I stayed at Hotel Europa and it was a good choice for a newbie I felt. I have heard from other brothers that Europa is still a viable spot for the current scene in the Su. Is this true or are there other places to stay that you guys would suggest over Europa? What can I expect to pay in moto or taxi fees to Ahnvee from Europa? Are there other spots for chicas outside of Ahnvee? Have heard daytime action is largely based around the beach and baileys. Apologies for the wave of questions, but I am trying to make sure I put in my due diligence in research so that my 2nd go at Su hopefully goes better.[/QUOTE]Europa has always been my spot but it's good and bad there.
Europa has big rooms with kitchenettes but its old and outdated. Had to switch rooms last time be the room smelled funny and gave me a headache. White stuff was on the bed sheets from paint that was falling of the ceiling.
Romanita bar is good to hangout and right in front of Europa. The girls there are in play and its two bars across the street. So you can shop in the Europa area easily.
I love public transportation in the DR, never needed a car. It might be an add on for night service to go to Ahnvee but between 50 pesos and 100 pesos each way might be the cost.
Last trip (The weekend before the shutdown) I stayed at New Gardens in the new wing and loved it.
Ahnvee I have heard is mixed with the reviews.
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Misc.
I've been a little lazy about searching for new chicas. I decided to give my "8" a second date to see if she improved any. She did some. Mostly on the kissing which was better. Some open mouth but no tongue which is fine. Still no BBBJ on date 2. Also paid the moto 100 pesos for delivery but nothing for leaving. Just too damn convenient to do delivery than to go out searching eventhough I'm curious what I might find. Date 3. No moto charges. She handled that. I don't know where she stays exactly but I know it's not far. Also date three finally BBBJ! Tried for uncovered F_ but no dice there. Also tried for leche in mouth but no dice there either. Date 4 same as 3 nothing new. May finally go out hunting later in the week. Wouldn't mind one with bigger tits. But will have to see. She wears a noticeable amount of makeup but I guess it works).
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[QUOTE=Newb20;2420363]Mostly on the kissing which was better. Some open mouth but no tongue - Tried for uncovered F_ but no dice there. Also tried for leche in mouth but no dice there either. Date 4 same as 3 nothing new.[/QUOTE]Wow dude you have some nuts. We all have played Dick roulette before so I'm not judging. Sounds like you enjoying yourself. Remember Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. I love your honesty. May your chamber always click the empty slot.
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Si
Thanks for the feedback GrownMan1. You're right, probably not the best judgement to try for that so it's probably good that got denied. But you know how it can be in the moment when you are with a hot chica. Leche in her mouth would have been nice).
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[QUOTE=Newb20;2420363]I've been a little lazy about searching for new chicas.[/QUOTE]Do what works for you! Don't let others tell you who should be fucking, how you should be finding them or how to spend your hard earned money. For as along as you have "boots on the ground" there is opportunity. Keep searching you will find one that will let you "flood the zone" borrowing a football term. If you like it, I love it!
And I thank you very much about your post on having sex with chicas in Republica Dominicana! Live long, and may the pussy be with you always!
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Ahnvee Saturday night
Went looking for a new one tonight. Was there around 10:30-11:00 pm. Wasn't as packed as last time. I was somewhat surprise by that but maybe just too early. If anyone else went later let us know if it got packed. Not so good at estimating numbers, 50 chicas? For me it was slim pickings. Just very little of interest. I spotted a girl in a white dress with big tits and a nice body, don't like a huge ass. But she was walking out with her girlfriend! Wtf? Was a bit far to chase but would have like to have had a closer look at her. Talked briefly with a Haitian girl that was attractive but just not what I wanted. Was walking around when I saw a girl walking somewhat my direction she was spinner type and looked pretty good. I said hola but I guess she wasn't interested. She said hola and paused very slightly but continued walking. Maybe meeting her friends or something. I would have liked to talk with her a bit. She had potential. So, that left just one other girl that I had seen earlier that I thought was a maybe. I went over to her and started talking to her. She was from Santo Domingo. Came here Thursday and said she was leaving tomorrow. Said it was her first time in Su? Said she was 23. Very petite. 5'3"ish. Very cute face but maybe not as pretty as my "8". Said her name was Charina. Had on a tinted wig. Damn those things shed. She seemed nice enough. Made a deal for "2 hours" She asked how much I wanted to pay. I said 2,000. She said 3,000. I said 2,500 and she took it. 100 pesos moto to my place. She was probably the warmest / nicest so far. BBBJ. And I asked if she would lick my balls and she did some. Covered F. She had nice nipples on maybe 32 B cup. There were maybe two other girls there that looked interesting to me but they were with guys already.