Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=RioBob;3041735]I was surfing through Airbnb today for a future trip and stopped at an apartment I stayed earlier this year. It's in a new building on ave. Atlantica, the host has about 10 apartments in that building, other hosts have about 10 each also. When I stayed in that apartment I had girls come in everyday and night no problem they just had to register at the front desk. Today I read the house rules on all my hosts apartments, they were all updated to include: No drugs, no public intoxication, no parties and no sex workers. This is the first time I've seen them get so specific usually they just say no unregistered guests. I would suspect residents complained about the unsavory traffic through the building and mongers drunk in the common areas. I wasn't going to stay there anyway because I didn't like the location but I did check the availability of the apartment and it's not that booked anymore compared to others that allow any type of guests. I never had too much problems with the girls through the years but have heard many stories of violent loud fights in hotels late at night and this is embarrassing for the hotels and now more and more Airbnb are following suit. I always ask Airbnb hosts if I could bring unregistered guests into the apartment and they all tell me to be careful with people I don't know..[/QUOTE]Rio Bob, you're the one with longest experience of Rio in this forum. Your inputs are always valuable.

Regarding allowing guests in apartments. I would never accept not allowing guests. I have lots of friends in Rio, not only girls I f*ck, and telling them they can't visit my apartment for having some drinks or dinner would be insane. It might be that the apartment owner doesn't want mongers bringing GPS that makes a lot of noise and disturb the neighbors, that's understable. Often it also depends on the síndicos in the building. The síndico is the adminstrator a condominium, elected by the owners. That person often decides the rules of the building.

I have two friends who owned a couple of apartments in a building on Rua Barao de Ipanema. Their apartaments were always rented out to tourists amd they earned very good money. However the síndico of the building got jealous and started give out fines to the apartments owners when there were loud noices etc. It ended with my friends got tired and sold their apartments.

Sidenote: The best way to rent apartments are from people not using internet for renting out their apartments. Today I only have one contact that still don't use internet. He's a chefe dos porteiros in a large building, in a top location. He used to rent out a dozen apartments. Today he just handles a handful of apartments. The standard of the apartments are really good and the prices as well. Partly because I know him for more than 30 years. That building is located not far from ex-Help. There was a time when they didn't allow temporary renters bringing visits to the apartments, but I was an exception to the rule.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3041762]Is that building located where the last single family home was on Atlantica?[/QUOTE]It's where Casa de Pedras was located. The old lady who used to live there diead at an age of 101 years. Her heirs sold the house and they constructed the building that Rio Bob mentioned.

Consulado the Áustria is also demolished. I think the only low rise buildings left on Avenida Atlântica are a small school and the Zona Sul supermercado in Leme.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3041833]Maybe, it's 2 buildings off of Rua Santa Clara, just a couple of years old, it's too bad because it was a nice building to stay in, the apartments being brand new and everything. There are still many other apartments in Rio but it's too bad some mongers don't know how to be low key.[/QUOTE]As soon as I saw the apartments listed online, I wondered how long it would take before the Passport Bros would fuck it up for everyone!! It's like this new generation (under 35) never learned the definition of the word "Discretion".

Jimmyboy is a good wingman, in part because, like Bravo, he is a good navigator -- ie, you link up with him in centro, and he knows the address of the prives. There is some mutual benefit, in that he is over 60, and we partner up on the local whatsapp group with younger, bigger, more athletic (though Jimmyboy gets in his 10,000 steps and eats a balanced healthy diet) group members for mutual security. On one such after dark patrol to the secret termas with other ISG members, jimmboy recommended rightly using the metro within areas in centro, which was a smart thing to do, and accomplished the mission of getting qninja into some porn star quality (wefuckblackgirls dot com or xes network exploitedblackteens dot com) pussy at a price about half of 4 x4 with no cover to go in (though hearing protection not to mention masks to protect from all the second hand smoke are recommended).

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3041677]Yes, some may not be around anymore, but it is a much fuller clinica list than on gparena.net and gp-guia.net. One can google the names on the list to see if they are still around and where.[/QUOTE]

Read some interesting stories here from some of you when checking out the scene with a wingman which brings me to a question especially surrounding prives. I had a wingman in Bangkok this past summer and when we explored some of the smaller sidestreet girlie massage fuckshops, we noticed that most of them had very small lineup rosters. Maybe 6 to 10 girls at any one time. One challenge we found was for both of us to find an acceptable girl for each of us at the same venue. For example at some places we would find only one girl that was attractive to us and unfortunately she would be the same one we both would accept. So we had to move onto the next venue to hopefully find at least two acceptable girls, one of each of us.

I can see this happening at Rio prives too assuming their rosters are small too at any one time. If there was only one acceptable girl, we would have one of us take her while the other guy just ends up sitting and waiting in the lobby for the session to finish until we can move onto the next venue so that the other guy can have his turn there while the one who sessioned will take his turn to wait in the lobby. Of course, another scenario would be if the first venue has only one attractive girl and a guy sessions with her, the other dude can move on by himself to the next venue and session there. Then both guys can meet up later on somewhere.

I can see that if I were to travel solo without a wingman, things would be much less complicated and I could just shop around venues and session with the first available girl acceptable to me without anybody else having to wait or me having to wait while my buddy sessioned. Of course this wouldn't be an issue at the termas where there are many other girls around maximizes the chances that each of us would find somebody acceptable to session with.

This all leads to my question -- specifically if touring the Rio prives, is it better to have a wingman or not? What do you guys think?

I was in Rio for the third time between Nov. 21 and Dec. 3. Stayed in an AirBnB in Copa on are. Barata Ribeiro, a modest and safe one-bedroom that was girl friendly.

Friday night at Monte Carlo: Went there around 20:00 and the line-up was about ten girls, mostly 5-7's. I forget her name, but I picked a morena that appeared to be in her late 20's. Went to a room for an hour. After about a day of travel I did not perform like a porn star, however, we fucked and she took a BBCIM with a smile. I bought two drinks for each of us, one before, one after (Tanqueray and tonic for me, Champagne for her) that was my mistake. On the way out, the bill was much more than I expected and I didn't bring enough Reais. With credit card fee, the bill was an astounding $248 USD, at least 60 of which were for the four drinks. I went to Monte Carlo about a year ago and the bill was a lot less than that. Considering the below average talent and high prices that will probably be my last visit to MC for a long time.

Thanksgiving Day at 583 Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana: Went to Edens Spa in Suite 401 around 13:00. They had about 5 girls in the line-up. Maybe 5's at best. I was not interested, but on my way out the guy running the place said prices for an hour were $350 are. I went downstairs to Suite 302 (301 next door appeared to be a legit medical office) and had better luck. About 6 girls in the lineup, I picked a young pardo with a great body. I think her name was Jennifer. Took her for a one-hour session for $240 are. Sexy girl, but insisted on condom BJ. I didn't complain. Got off in her mouth, in the condom.

I invited a couple girls from [URL]RioSexSite.com[/URL] back to the place for one-hour sessions (two separate days).

Maria Luiza: A real cute branco (with curly light brown hair with a great body. Her profile said 19 years old and I didn't doubt that. Cost was $800 are. No CIM, despite that being offered in our WhatsApp chat. She didn't speak a word of English. In fact, after doing her mish for a while, I signaled her to get on all fours for doggy style and she didn't understand what I meant! I had to explain with hand gestures, ha ha.

Sarah Lakshmi: Talked up her southern Brasil "gaucho" roots. Appeared a bit older than in her pictures, however, she spoke conversational English and seemed like a nice gal. BBBJ, fuck w / condom. I came in her doggy-style. Was a satisfying fuck. One-hour session $750 are.

Hi everybody,

I am going to Rio soon and have several questions. Maybe somebody can help me a little bit.

Was in Sao Paolo several times, so mostly interested now it works in Rio compare to SP.

1. Do they have something similar to SP clinicas? I heard about prives. What are the best (largest selection) ones?

2. There is a Dolce Vita club in Copa. Does it similar to Casarao? Do they have a hotel onsite / near?

3. I tried to find some love motels in google, but list was relatively short and nothing was available in Copa / Ipanema.

(I am going to live on the border of Copa / Ipanema). Maybe I am missing something?

Can anybody recommend good love motels, please.

4. Is it difficult to get a local phone number? When it will expire? How easy to reactivate it on the next visit?

5. Does it make sense to get an CPF number and how difficult to do it in the US? BTW, I do not have any business in Brazil and no fiance, just a tourist.

I am not asking about termas. I was in Rio 20 years ago and once visited Luomo. I think basically nothing changes, including those bathrobes.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3042901]Hi everybody,

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4. Is it difficult to get a local phone number? When it will expire? How easy to reactivate it on the next visit?

5. Does it make sense to get an CPF number and how difficult to do it in the US? BTW, I do not have any business in Brazil and no fiance, just a tourist.

..[/QUOTE]CPF seem to worth it, do it in your country. Its free and you have no obligation related to it. Its a pain to not have it, lots of apps and website require it. Like local taxi app and some esort website with paid plan.

For a phone number it probably require it too. There is virtul sim card like Airalo who allow texting and give a cell number but I don't know if you can reactivate later with the same phone number. It doesn't require CPF but its more expensive then a plan from Brazil.

This is what Bubbaboy had to say about wingmen. Which I've included in an update to his guide. Send a PM for the full doc. When I link up with a wingman for the first time, I always ask, do you do any sports, especially martial arts, and does your phone have a local chip, and I tell them my plan for a confrontation which is to run away, and be ready to call for services (190 police, 193 ambulance), and discuss where the hospital is. There are good and bad wingmen, like a clue might be a ISG member who doesn't know how to use the subway because he's never been to Rio, but that can be mitigated if the person can adapt with a sports background and an unlocked cell phone and some prior discussions and planning. If a wingman looks at you and says YOU are his security in zona norte at a swing event where the bouncer has a eye missing, well, that is clearly a wingman who is more of a risk to you.

Below is Saint Bubba's words, from Deuteronomy chapter 69 verse 69.

**Avenida Atlantica, Copacabana is one of the most dangerous streets at night*.

Every problem I have had in Rio, and there has been a few, has been on Avenida Atlantica or within a block or 2 of where Help was located, all at night or sun down. The local bandidos know where the tourists are and that's where they head. I have been nearly robbed several times- one time came to blows- they didn't get anything and we didn't get hurt. Lucky there was no weapons, they had the numbers we had the size. They beat a hasty retreat. I was angry with myself being stupid enough to walk into them, that I had let my guard down because there were lots of people around at 9 pm. My rule is if I can't see weapons they won't get anything from me, I had a relatively troubled youth and hence am quite ok with a little bit of sporadic violence, if they do have visible weapons, then they can have anything I am stupid enough to be carrying at the time. A first time visitor should really offer no resistance to any attempted robbery. Everybody should carry only a small amount of cash in their pockets, hide the rest somewhere else. The K man is a big fan of "shoe money".

Another time my same friend was on his way to the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Academy, this is a world famous fight school, with one of the instructors. He was again approached by 4 thugs that asked for his money, he simply pointed and said "speak about that with my buddy", the instructor basically said "come on guys, you don't want to do something stupid now". They fled quickly horrified that they had offended some one from Gracie. The point of the story is that the thugs are really not that hard, the judgement one needs to make is if they are carrying weapons or not and of course if it is worth the hassle.

Now that Help has closed, it is noticeably safer around avinida atlantica at night. Big improvement actually, but still keep your guard up.

[URL]http://www.gracieacademy.com/[/URL] Many a world champion mixed martial artist has trained at the Gracie gym.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042880]Read some interesting stories here from some of you when checking out the scene with a wingman which brings me to a question especially surrounding prives. I had a wingman in Bangkok this past summer and when we explored some of the smaller sidestreet girlie massage fuckshops, we noticed that most of them had very small lineup rosters. Maybe 6 to 10 girls at any one time. One challenge we found was for both of us to find an acceptable girl for each of us at the same venue. For example at some places we would find only one girl that was attractive to us and unfortunately she would be the same one we both would accept. So we had to move onto the next venue to hopefully find at least two acceptable girls, one of each of us.

I can see this happening at Rio prives too assuming their rosters are small too at any one time. If there was only one acceptable girl, we would have one of us take her while the other guy just ends up sitting and waiting in the lobby for the session to finish until we can move onto the next venue so that the other guy can have his turn there while the one who sessioned will take his turn to wait in the lobby. Of course, another scenario would be if the first venue has only one attractive girl and a guy sessions with her, the other dude can move on by himself to the next venue and session there. Then both guys can meet up later on somewhere.

I can see that if I were to travel solo without a wingman, things would be much less complicated and I could just shop around venues and session with the first available girl acceptable to me without anybody else having to wait or me having to wait while my buddy sessioned. Of course this wouldn't be an issue at the termas where there are many other girls around maximizes the chances that each of us would find somebody acceptable to session with.

This all leads to my question -- specifically if touring the Rio prives, is it better to have a wingman or not? What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

You don't need a CPF to get a local phone number.

As discussed often just go to Central Metro buy a chip cadastrada.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3042904]CPF seem to worth it, do it in your country. Its free and you have no obligation related to it. Its a pain to not have it, lots of apps and website require it. Like local taxi app and some esort website with paid plan.

For a phone number it probably require it too. There is virtul sim card like Airalo who allow texting and give a cell number but I don't know if you can reactivate later with the same phone number. It doesn't require CPF but its more expensive then a plan from Brazil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guest19;3042901]Hi everybody,

I am going to Rio soon and have several questions. Maybe somebody can help me a little bit.

Was in Sao Paolo several times, so mostly interested now it works in Rio compare to SP.

1. Do they have something similar to SP clinicas? I heard about prives. What are the best (largest selection) ones?

2. There is a Dolce Vita club in Copa. Does it similar to Casarao? Do they have a hotel onsite / near?

3. I tried to find some love motels in google, but list was relatively short and nothing was available in Copa / Ipanema.

(I am going to live on the border of Copa / Ipanema). Maybe I am missing something?

Can anybody recommend good love motels, please.

4. Is it difficult to get a local phone number? When it will expire? How easy to reactivate it on the next visit?

5. Does it make sense to get an CPF number and how difficult to do it in the US? BTW, I do not have any business in Brazil and no fiance, just a tourist..[/QUOTE]1. Yes, privées. 2. No. 3. Yes, you're missing something. 4. Yes, easy. 5. Yes, it makes sense. BTW, you'll find all the answers if you bother to do a search.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042880]This all leads to my question -- specifically if touring the Rio prives, is it better to have a wingman or not? What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I've essentially been a lone wolf for most of my mongering career. Too many guys do too many stupid things, and you can get caught up in their shit just through association. I couldn't take the risk, and needed to keep a low profile. The one time I did have a wingman, the guy turned out to be a stumbling drunk, acted like I was supposed to be his personal cambio and unpaid Spanish interpreter, and was digging all up in his nose scaring the tutes away! I swore never again! That said, that was a long time ago. These days, I would be open to the idea again with the right guy. For me, what would make a wingman "rght" would be somebody who likes to go to the same kind of places that I do first of all. I mean, if one guy likes going to Scandallo and the other guy is a cheap Charlie always trying to save a dime, then it's just not going to work. Second, it would help if the guy kind of rolls how I roll. I'm more of a "night league" monger than a "day league" monger. I prefer clubs to casas and prives. And, I like to hit no more than 1 to 2 joints max in a night versus running all over the place all over town. Settle in and take the scene in. Save some to monger another day (or night). Also, although not a high requirement, I think it would help if your potential wingman didn't like the exact same kind of girls that you do. That way, you won't be lusting for and perving on the same ones. Lastly, I think it would be good if both guys had experience that was the same or similar. I'm talking about the extent to which they have traveled, comfort level with being in a foreign country, especially if you don't speak the language. That sort of thing. Because it sucks when you feel like you have got to hold a grown man's hand through everything That would put a damper on my mojo and ruin my fun! These are things that I would think about if considering having a wingman.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3042935]This is what Bubbaboy had to say about wingmen. Which I've included in an update to his guide. Send a PM for the full doc. When I link up with a wingman for the first time, I always ask, do you do any sports, especially martial arts, and does your phone have a local chip, and I tell them my plan for a confrontation which is to run away, and be ready to call for services (190 police, 193 ambulance), and discuss where the hospital is. [/QUOTE]I am a peaceful person, who just wanted to have some fun, not participating in the local war.

Rio is a city at war, as is much of the world.

28 Oct, 121+ human souls went to their maker via bullets in two favelas in Zona Norte, and many if not almost all of the local sex workers live in those favelas.

In our local whatsapp group, we discussed this and I guess I should report some of the better information here. Just be advised, but that said, IMHO it is better than the USA where the same sex would cost you like 10 x to 20 x more if you can even get it, and there seems to be just as much violence if not more (in the US, there are 400 million guns in private hands in a country of 330 million versus 2 million in private hands in a country of 200 million).

Like it or lump it the girl you are fucking can probably crush your spine with some jiu jitsu or she is fucking a guy she wants to fuck who can, and you, dear reader, are just a gringo who is willing to pay for it.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3042990]I am a peaceful person, who just wanted to have some fun, not participating in the local war.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guest19;3042901]Hi everybody,

I am going to Rio soon and have several questions. Maybe somebody can help me a little bit.

Was in Sao Paolo several times, so mostly interested now it works in Rio compare to SP.

1. Do they have something similar to SP clinicas? I heard about prives. What are the best (largest selection) ones? >>> Yes, and more than a few - do some reading here and GP Arena

2. There is a Dolce Vita club in Copa. Does it similar to Casarao? Do they have a hotel onsite / near? >>> No, not even close.

3. I tried to find some love motels in google, but list was relatively short and nothing was available in Copa / Ipanema. >>> http://www.guiademoteis.com.br. No love motels in Ipanema AFAIK, but there are some in Copa, very unremarkable. But within a short Uber ride in Botafogo, there are Panda and Bambina. Splurge for a pool suite and thank me later. There's also an awesome (and very pricey) VIPs Motel in Leblon. https://motelvips.com.br .[/QUOTE]See my answers above. And honestly, I don't know why some folks here hate bathrobes, but if you're so inclined, some termas allow you to remain in street clothes. Not L'uomo, though, as it was shut down years ago.