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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1704551]Crazy House line up was quite good last night Tuesday, if you go for slim to skinny girls, with well above average faces. [/QUOTE]Will be spending a weekend getaway with a friend in a couple of weeks, will most definitely be making my way to CH. Last couple of visits I have been at Shark, Suzie Wong and Tiiac, but the line up in those places just hasn't been as good as I would have liked it to be. Maybe I have just been unlucky on the days, who knows. Sure the party can be every bit as wild and fun if you throw a few drinks around, but I just haven't been wow'd by any of the girls of late.
I do like the natural slim body and a pretty face same as you, so thanks for the heads up. Will be sure to post back.
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[QUOTE==*****man;1704251]Not at all. You seem to like making judgements about other posters with no evidence at all to back it up.[/QUOTE]Your choice of username might lead some to judgement.
SL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1704551]
One girl highly tattooed and wearing a bra but no panties, had an unusual shaped face. Reminded me of a LB, even though she wasn't. Strange jaw. Yet guys called her over for a drink very quickly. No accounting for different taste. Definitely not pretty for my taste and very small tits covered (who knows what they would look like).
[/QUOTE]I think I know which girl you are talking about. Did she have tanned skin?
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1704853]Will be spending a weekend getaway with a friend in a couple of weeks, will most definitely be making my way to CH. Last couple of visits I have been at Shark, Suzie Wong and Tiiac, but the line up in those places just hasn't been as good as I would have liked it to be. Maybe I have just been unlucky on the days, who knows. Sure the party can be every bit as wild and fun if you throw a few drinks around, but I just haven't been wow'd by any of the girls of late.
I do like the natural slim body and a pretty face same as you, so thanks for the heads up. Will be sure to post back.[/QUOTE]You are not unluckie! The 3 bars you mentioned don't have pretty faces. Hahaha! I've been to SW about 4 times this year-the best face you get is barely acceptable in the avg category.
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[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1703898]Thanks for your post.
My main approach is to invite them for dinner and movie, if chemistry is good I invite them to my apartment at Sukhumvite Soi 19 which is close to Terminal 21 / BTS Asok / MRT Sukhumvite.
From November till January I used this approach in combination with my ThaiFriendly account. I did not count how many girls shared my bedroom but luckly I did not pay to any of them.
I only had to kick some girls out (mostly because I wanted to go out alone afterwards / around midnight or I wanted to sleep alone, and in that cases I give them 500 THB for taxi money, but this was below one handful of girls).
Thanks for help.[/QUOTE]And how much are you spending on her entertainment to get her for free in your bed?
500 tub for taxi money nearly gets them halfway to Pattaya.
I believe you use the definition taxi money to still believe they're free.
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Grand Finale
I have been in Bangkok since January 18 with a ten day visit to Cambodia included within this time frame. It was my first visit here and tried as many different type options as I could. These include a SW in front of Nana Plaza (surprisingly pretty good), two sessions at the Den on Soi 12 (also, very good), two massage places highly recommended on the board in Snow White and Addict (just average), and numerous encounters at Bangkok Beat club on Soi 7/1 (most very good to excellent). I wrote FR on all these experiences so will not repeat them here, suffice to say that for the most part I was pleased with my first time visit to Bangkok.
The one thing I did not do was barfine a girl from the go-go's. I just fundamentally object to the high cost of the bar fine, the girls fees, the short time gambit, costs of drinks for myself and the LD. I could go on and on about this. However, on one occassion I invited a young nubile from either Billboard or Bubbles in NEP to come to my apartment after they closed at 2 am but ended up giving her the boot when it became apparent she was not prepared to provide even the basic level of services. No cost there though she gave me a friendly Hello, when I ran into her a few days later.
So this leads me to my final evaluation of the go-go's. Last Monday, albeit a holiday, I went to Sharks on Soi Cowboy with a Bangkok veteran of twenty plus years. It was slim picking in there and, in fact, there was only one girl I had an interest. A slim dark haired and deeply dark skinned nypmphette. She exchanged a smile with me but then some guy came in and she quickly went over to him. After sitting with him for a while, and it was obvious they knew each other, he left and she returned to the stage. No more glances towards me and pretty sure a rendezvous was set up wih her friend for later. The MamaSan also was barking at her and fairly certain she caught on to what transpired.
However, I am discussing this because of the laughable attitude of the other girls in there who were split between twelve dancers, (A and a B team). No real stunners or even average and one lady had to be pushing 50. None of these girls even so much glanced at me or my friend. The 50 year old seemed lost in her own little world and the others dreamily observed themselves in the mirror perhaps wondering why they were never bar fined. My friend and I left after one beer. One and done as they say.
Having read so many reports here about lackluster go go girls, I decided early on to eschew this option and this particular evening reconfirmed my decision. I don't see these go go's as they are currently constructed as a viable business model going forward.
Nevertheless, I had two final 'dates' at Bangkok Beat. The first night I took home a very attractive girl who owned a bikini shop near the airport. Being a bit dubious, I asked to see some photos of the shop which she readily produced. She was the first girl I met in there who appeared to have a regular job as the rest either worked in a professed 'spa' or were unemployed, unless you count hanging out as a FL at Bangkok Beat as a job. Thinking that this would be a good night, I ended up quite disappointed in her service level. In fact, after we finished she claimed it had been an undetermined amount of time since her last boom boom or at least that was her excuse for her woeful performance. However, I blew it by not asking all the right questions in the beginning.
These questions, at least for me, should be de regueur: do you kiss, allow DATY, and BJ. I only asked the first question and neglected to ask the others, which turned out to be NO to both but way to late to adjust course. Basically, by not asking these questions and making certain assumptions, certain girls will use this as an excuse when it becomes apparent these treats are not on their menu.
So I returned the next night and had a bit of a bad attitude. I did not want to finish my visit with another bad encounter, which began to color my judgement. In fact, the evening was flying by as I hemmed and hawed about who to select though there was a multitude of tasty options. Overthinking, some would say. Standing off in the corner by my lonesome and almost resigned to leaving solo, all of a sudden a little spinner appeared and before you could say 'Bingo', we had arranged our LT evening. I think she wanted 2500 bt initially, which I rejected, but eventually we compromised on 2000 bt and she agreed to stay until nine in the morning. I asked her the above 'menu' questions whereupon she stopped me and said 'I will do whatever you want but you can't have my ass. ' LOL. And she said this in quite good English.
It went quite well. She was very enthusiastic and fun and stayed until 9 am as agreed. In fact, it was so good, I told her that I would take her to Ko Samui with me but since I was leaving later that day, she could not rearrange her schedule in time. Now that I am in Ko Samui, it was probably just as well given my first few nights here. Well, that FR will be in a different thread.
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Thomasb,
You are not in a position to really evaluate bars, bar girls, etc. Based on a visit to Sharks on a holiday with poor attendance.
You should just consider it a not very exciting experience.
Personally I like bars where girls do not hassle me until I decide I am interested in one and attract her attention.
The Sharks line up was probably shit on that day. Bar girls vary tremendously in performance. There are some good ones and there are lots of bad ones. Just like you had varied experiences with girls in general.
I think Sharks is full of plastic robot girls these days however its a few months since I last went in there. The girls were more interested in Japanese customers was my impression.
Not all bars are like that. If you don't the bar system, that is fine, and many don't. I put up with it, because I am seeing a range of better looking girls than on an oily MP, I like to see the whole body naked first, and I have lots of rime to evaluate girls to see if I really like them. Bangkok beat is a good option but of course a fairly limited set of girls and can't see them naked first. Plus have to make sure don't pick a ladyboy. LOL.
What budget you have is also a big factor. Time and quality of looks are more important to me than cost. Others have abundant time but less money to spend and many are more concerned about PSE than a pretty face.
I just spent two days in Singapore. Everything is very expensive. Guys should be thankful Bangkok is so much cheaper. LOL
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[QUOTE=Goodle;1704922]You are not unluckie! The 3 bars you mentioned don't have pretty faces. Hahaha! I've been to SW about 4 times this year-the best face you get is barely acceptable in the avg category.[/QUOTE]That is complete twaddle. I aware of certain girls working in Tilac that I find quite pretty. Mint is just one but she is a bit irregular. SW has less but there a small number of pretty ones.
Top girl in SW I see from time to time when her very busy schedule permits. Some will say she is not pretty only due to skin colour bias.
So it is more about luck of attending bars at the right time. Line ups vary a lot.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1705564]I just spent two days in Singapore. Everything is very expensive. Guys should be thankful Bangkok is so much cheaper. LOL[/QUOTE]Actually some great finds in Geylang if one is willing to put in the time. But general cost of living is off the charts. It was just named the most expensive city in the world. I actually prefer KL to Sing for many different reasons. KL is also a bit of a hidden gem when it comes to gals.
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[QUOTE=MerZues;1704886]I think I know which girl you are talking about. Did she have tanned skin?[/QUOTE]I didn't closely note level of tan. Its not a factor that matters much to me. Lets just say a fully tatooed ass, flat chest and prominent jaw. There is probably only one like that.
The main point is that other guys like girls that are ugly for me. So taste varies a lot. Another straight bodied girl that spreads pussy very provocatively is ugly with swollen nose to my taste but seems quite popular. So one guy's pretty is another guy's ugly. For many guys size of tits is important where for me not important. I only avoid hard silicone jobs.
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Well, I used my night at Sharks as an example of several other different visits to other go go's including Doll House and a whole range of other bars in NEP over a period of a few months. Generally speaking that was the overall impression I had, whatever night I went, which were girls who were distantly prancing about and going through the motion on stage. And yes, the only time they do perk up is when they see a group or solo Japanese guy enter. Those guys are probably more responsible for raising the prices then any other factors.
As far as prices in go go's, I find it too expensive, though I could afford it, but based on the performance levels I hear about on the board and from friends gives me the appearance that the girls are not worth what they charge. I suppose I should have tried a few just to develop a sample size so not, of course, speaking from direct experience.
Yes, a few times I have been disappointed with the girls bodies I picked up at BB so I understand where you are coming from on that point. However, even though I see the occassional LB in Bangkok Beat, they, at least to me, seem pretty obvious. I have never even felt that I had to ask a girl about her gender there who I was considering for a date. Also, they could use a bit more turnover there as you do see many of the same girls every night. I avoid those and try to laser beam on girls who I have never seen before.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1705574]I didn't closely note level of tan. Its not a factor that matters much to me. Lets just say a fully tatooed ass, flat chest and prominent jaw. There is probably only one like that.
The main point is that other guys like girls that are ugly for me. So taste varies a lot. Another straight bodied girl that spreads pussy very provocatively is ugly with swollen nose to my taste but seems quite popular. So one guy's pretty is another guy's ugly. For many guys size of tits is important where for me not important. I only avoid hard silicone jobs.[/QUOTE]Yes obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not disagreeing with you about that. It just that your comment reminded of my adventures if Crazy House almost two weeks ago.
I think the girl you are talking about is #15, although from memory the tattoo only covers her back but not ass. She is super popular and it took me 3 nights to be able to bar fine. She charges 3000 Baht for ST and only does CBJ and I am sure no DATY. Oh and she wanted the money at the bar before we head to the hotel. All the possible red flags in the world and almost backed away couple of times but in the end I said fine lets go.
I even needed help from a big American who was sitting next to me at CH and it turned out he is a VIP at the club and staff was treating him like a GOGO royalty. After seeing his bill for drinks I understood why. He spent (cover your eyes cheap charlies) over 11000 Baht in 2 hours. He set me up with her. Cheers Michael.
It was worth the trouble thou. She makes the sexiest F. K face an I enjoyed the session. She is the type of girl you take once thou. Can't put up with all that BS more than once.
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[QUOTE=MerZues;1705747]I think the girl you are talking about is #15, although from memory the tattoo only covers her back but not ass. She is super popular and it took me 3 nights to be able to bar fine. She charges 3000 Baht for ST and only does CBJ and I am sure no DATY. Oh and she wanted the money at the bar before we head to the hotel. All the possible red flags in the world and almost backed away couple of times but in the end I said fine lets go.[/QUOTE]With all due respect I am just amazed that dudes accept this kind of service and will even line up to pay dearly for it. Why are gals providing less and less? Because the punters let them get away with it and accept it. Are things really that bad in the West? CBJ, no DATY, pay before and 3 k? HUH? Jeez has service really degraded this much? For 3 k she should be gargling with your jizz and singing the Star Spangled Banner! If I wanted that kind of service I would have never moved to Thailand. Honestly when I moved here a gal that tried to pull that crap would have zero customers no matter how good looking she was. One or two bad reports and she would never get a BF. And guess what? She would change her tune.
All three should be a no-go; especially the pay before. She knows that lots of dudes would balk when they get to the room and she does not perform. I get to a ST room and no DFK, no DATY, no fingering, then I very nicely in Thai tell them that this is not working for me, get up, put my clothes on, leave a couple hundred baht and leave. Always smiling and polite, but firm. Might as well stay home and whittle the puppet. But again, dudes are lining up for this.
The inmates have truly taken over the asylum.
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[QUOTE=MerZues;1705747]Yes obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not disagreeing with you about that. It just that your comment reminded of my adventures if Crazy House almost two weeks ago.
I think the girl you are talking about is #15, although from memory the tattoo only covers her back but not ass. She is super popular and it took me 3 nights to be able to bar fine. She charges 3000 Baht for ST and only does CBJ and I am sure no DATY. Oh and she wanted the money at the bar before we head to the hotel. All the possible red flags in the world and almost backed away couple of times but in the end I said fine lets go.
I even needed help from a big American who was sitting next to me at CH and it turned out he is a VIP at the club and staff was treating him like a GOGO royalty. After seeing his bill for drinks I understood why. He spent (cover your eyes cheap charlies) over 11000 Baht in 2 hours. He set me up with her. Cheers Michael.
It was worth the trouble thou. She makes the sexiest F. K face an I enjoyed the session. She is the type of girl you take once thou. Can't put up with all that BS more than once.[/QUOTE]No you have wrong girl. I speak about one with fully tatooed ass. You probably saw one a bit better.
I Never agreed to pay for any girl up front. They could runaway at slightest opportunity. Never took CBJ either. Some newbie girls have low experience and are very bad. As always if you find the right girl can be good. I found one who like good hard sex and not dick scared.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1705573]Actually some great finds in Geylang if one is willing to put in the time. But general cost of living is off the charts. It was just named the most expensive city in the world. I actually prefer KL to Sing for many different reasons. KL is also a bit of a hidden gem when it comes to gals.[/QUOTE]I am in wrong thread but just to make Bangkok bar punters thankful for small mercies.
Last night with my Thai girl, we decide to have a quick look on Orchard Tower. We can't go in Ipanema since since did not bring her passport.
Go in a couple of lower class bars. Some singers and Coyotes. Cheapest lady drink was $33 yikes! I did not ask the price for take a girl away. Most bargirls were clearly too fat for. My taste. Best looking girl looked Russian or similar. Normal gin and tonic was $15. No nudity.
My girl played pool with best girl players in the bar (Filipeanas) and whooped their asses despite hitting with high power all the time. The thrills make her horny for later LOL. So she orgasmed much quicker than usual. She is used to americans, English and Europeans. Singapore English is hard for her to understand and they don't understand her well either. Very few aspirated consonants in Singapore English. They cannot prounce letter T, K and P properly. Thais can. Thais struggle.with Sh, Th, X, etc. Different problems.
She was sexy so bargirls were asking her a lot of personal questions.
I like a bar in Soi Cowboy, or Bangkok Beat vastly more. Orchard Tower was not a place I would hurry back to. More like an expensive low class place, should I say shit hole. Perhaps unfair as we couldn't go ipanema or Bongo bar without her passport.