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Wingman or not!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3042977]I've essentially been a lone wolf for most of my mongering career. Too many guys do too many stupid things, and you can get caught up in their shit just through association. I couldn't take the risk, and needed to keep a low profile. The one time I did have a wingman, the guy turned out to be a stumbling drunk, acted like I was supposed to be his personal cambio and unpaid Spanish interpreter, and was digging all up in his nose scaring the tutes away! I swore never again! That said, that was a long time ago. These days, I would be open to the idea again with the right guy. For me, what would make a wingman "rght" would be somebody who likes to go to the same kind of places that I do first of all. I mean, if one guy likes going to Scandallo and the other guy is a cheap Charlie always trying to save a dime, then it's just not going to work. Second, it would help if the guy kind of rolls how I roll. I'm more of a "night league" monger than a "day league" monger. I prefer clubs to casas and prives. And, I like to hit no more than 1 to 2 joints max in a night versus running all over the place all over town. Settle in and take the scene in. Save some to monger another day (or night). Also, although not a high requirement, I think it would help if your potential wingman didn't like the exact same kind of girls that you do. That way, you won't be lusting for and perving on the same ones. Lastly, I think it would be good if both guys had experience that was the same or similar. I'm talking about the extent to which they have traveled, comfort level with being in a foreign country, especially if you don't speak the language. That sort of thing. Because it sucks when you feel like you have got to hold a grown man's hand through everything That would put a damper on my mojo and ruin my fun! These are things that I would think about if considering having a wingman.[/QUOTE]HH, it sounds as if you and I have the same tastes. I am also a lone wolf, prefer clubs, hunt at night etc. I will be in Rio in April!
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3043011]Rio is a city at war, as is much of the world.
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Like it or lump it the girl you are fucking can probably crush your spine with some jiu jitsu or she is fucking a guy she wants to fuck who can, and you, dear reader, are just a gringo who is willing to pay for it.[/QUOTE]But, I thought, that this forum is the place, where people discuss how to avoid such situations.
In any big city, there are places, there you will be robed with relatively high chances, and no any level of martial arts skill will help.
Just do not go there.
BTW, I am going to Rio in one month, and my comment was a result of mismatch between dreams about meeting nice girls and some sort of war preparation, in order to survive in RJ.
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It is kind of a philosophical historical observation here. Yes, if you go to so called tier 1 termas like Monte Carlo you might feel safer, but are you being robbed of your money by overpaying? You can read reports from this page to that effect.
I think the key point is language, culture.
When you read / write a report, are you writing in English as in 'I fucked this branca tute in her asshole so hard! Take a picture of her ass in a tier 1 terma, and get on a plane in a week. Never have her over pernoite, never do a weekend in Buzios or Ihla Grande.
Language, music. That is a aphrodiziac as powerful as money, or at least a gateway.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&t=1s[/URL]
Try playing that, and see how the girl reacts while fucking.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYmKAs7mzc[/URL]
Try playing that in between.
The local girls love this stuff. This stuff is hilarious to the girls. Notice the difference in opinions between those who speak some Portuguese and can afford to live in Rio full time, and those who do not speak any Portuguese. Notice how often posters here refer to the need to learn some Portuguese to improve the experience.
You can have thousands of posts and be a high roller but if you don't really speak any Portuguese how much are you actually connecting with the girl, and if not, are you missing a big part of the experience?
I had a prive girl over the other day, 450 r for 90 minutes of fucking during 4 hours PerDia, and we went through the above linked music and comedy, and that was a big part of why it is always a great time with her. So. Consider that. CPFPM 5 ish. Your cost per fuck per minute can be 20,50, 100, maybe you're Elon Musk and money is no object, but even if you are, learning some of the local language will help alot.
[QUOTE=Guest19;3043068]But, I thought, that this forum is the place, where people discuss how to avoid such situations.
In any big city, there are places, there you will be robed with relatively high chances, and no any level of martial arts skill will help.
Just do not go there.
BTW, I am going to Rio in one month, and my comment was a result of mismatch between dreams about meeting nice girls and some sort of war preparation, in order to survive in RJ.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Guest19;3043068]But, I thought, that this forum is the place, where people discuss how to avoid such situations.
In any big city, there are places, there you will be robed with relatively high chances, and no any level of martial arts skill will help.
Just do not go there.
BTW, I am going to Rio in one month, and my comment was a result of mismatch between dreams about meeting nice girls and some sort of war preparation, in order to survive in RJ.[/QUOTE]Its difficult to know when the things he wrote are serious or not. I met girls in rio but like everywhere on earth at least 9 girls on 10 without a weapon or a pimp near could not survive a fight again a man with a normal constitution(i do not include the shemale on hormanal plan and steroid, their constitution are more masculin then feminim). Ths writting style is entertaining but a lots of exageration can be very confusing. But I believe him when he say the city is very dangerous, read the new: how many city on this planet in a country not a war and in which the politic and social situation is consideraed as normal and as usual (for this country) you can see the police force murder 130 civilian on 1 intervention then things continue to go as usual after that and no critical even happen after? Cmon, probably even putin, xi pin and kim jong would not risk to give this order to their police force.
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The short answer is that almost every first time traveler to Rio would benefit from a wingman who has more experience and language skills.
Mongers self organize quickly according to many factors including the price target, their own race and nationality, and their education level etc etc.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042880]Read some interesting stories here from some of you when checking out the scene with a wingman which brings me to a question especially surrounding prives. I had a wingman in Bangkok this past summer and when we explored some of the smaller sidestreet girlie massage fuckshops, we noticed that most of them had very small lineup rosters. Maybe 6 to 10 girls at any one time. One challenge we found was for both of us to find an acceptable girl for each of us at the same venue. For example at some places we would find only one girl that was attractive to us and unfortunately she would be the same one we both would accept. So we had to move onto the next venue to hopefully find at least two acceptable girls, one of each of us.
I can see this happening at Rio prives too assuming their rosters are small too at any one time. If there was only one acceptable girl, we would have one of us take her while the other guy just ends up sitting and waiting in the lobby for the session to finish until we can move onto the next venue so that the other guy can have his turn there while the one who sessioned will take his turn to wait in the lobby. Of course, another scenario would be if the first venue has only one attractive girl and a guy sessions with her, the other dude can move on by himself to the next venue and session there. Then both guys can meet up later on somewhere.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BennieBen;3043073]how many city on this planet in a country not a war and in which the politic and social situation is consideraed as normal and as usual (for this country) you can see the police force murder 130 civilian on...[/QUOTE]Civilians?
Heavily armed bandits.
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Rio report
I started my last trip to Brazil with a 12-day stay in Rio. This was my second time in Rio. For accommodations I had a similar pattern in each city. Staying in Airbnb's most of the time but booking a hotel for a few days near the end, in case I wanted to have a guest over. I expect to be spending more time in Brazil and am playing a longer game now, so in no rush to bring guests to an apartment until I've found the right combination of both. The two apartments I stayed in Rio were OK, clean, big screen TVs, but not as modern or quiet as I like. Neither had amenities like gym or pool. Both in the range $65-$75/ night.
For transportation I used mostly Uber and the 99 ride app. I posted a detailed review of the latter a couple weeks ago and highly recommend getting the 99 ride app as an additional option when in Brazil. I also got a metro card and used the metro a handful of times, mainly for longer rides for example from Copacabana to Centro. Each ride is 7 BRL which is dirt cheap and can save a lot on long distance rides. However, I used Uber /99 most of the time as most rides were 15-30 BRL which is just $3-6 and much more convenient.
Beach and boardwalk scene was good. Went swimming twice, once in Leme / Copa and once in Barra the Tijuca. I had read that the Leme part of Copa beach is less crowded, but on the Sunday I went it was packed. In contrast the Barra beach had much fewer people, which seems typical there. The water was fine but freezing cold. And invigorating. Loved it. I brought minimal belongings to the beach and tipped a beach chair vendor to watch my stuff while I went in the water. I used a waterproof phone pouch and lanyard / clip to keep my phone and a few BRL with me in the water. It worked out well, I had no anxiety about getting valuables stolen, and the vendors appreciated a 20 BRL tip.
I sampled plenty of restaurants. Typical Brazilian dishes with rice, fries, beans and chicken or steak were widely available and the most common meals I had. One standout was Barraca the Chiquita Copacabana which has great dishes from the northeast. The area around the Largo do Machado park / metro in Catete also has a good restaurant and nightlife scene. Places like Pura Chama, Billy The Grill, Gambino, etc.
For garotas I focused on massage places / indies and termas. The first day I went to see an independent massage lady who gets consistent great reviews on gparena and looked cute in her ad: [URL]https://destackterapias.com/a/viviane-2/[/URL] She works in Centro near the Cinelandia metro. Easy to book. No ID check at the building. The photos must be 10 years old, in person she is larger and older, but very nice. Professional massage and BBBJCIM finish all for 200 BRL. Almost unheard of!
The second day I went to 4 x4 in the evening. I didn't bother changing into a robe; I hung out in the main area a bit but it was mostly people watching. I spent most of the time in the night club. This part was a pleasant surprise, nice furnishings and classy though simple look. Between the main area and the night club there were about 30 girls and 20 guys, but only a few girls looked tempting. I practiced my Porto chatting and drinking with a guy next to me, and at some point he waves over a girl for me. Cristal, attractive slim branca in her 20's. Bought her a drink and chatted then went up to a room. Good time. Paid the bill back down in the night club, total was 570 (room upgrade w / shower incl. Girl) + 60 entry + drinks + tax = 750 BRL. Ran into Barbie as I was about to head out, young cute busty brunette with good energy, she tried to reel me in. I was done and told her so, but we had a fun chat and she insisted on giving me her WhatsApp. Where was she an hour ago? Next time.
The third day was a highly anticipated visit to Prisma Terapias. It's a massage place with a large and impressive selection of about 40-50 girls. [URL]https://prismaterapias.com/[/URL] I booked one hour with Angel in their Copacabana location, it's in a well-known building with numerous massage places. Walked in with purpose and no ID check was requested. I chose the mutual nuru option 350/ h with a room upgrade 110 (sala master) for 460 total; room was small but functional with double bed / mattress and shower. Angel was open minded for a negotiated tip of 200. Total 660 BRL. Great time.
Three sessions in my first 3 days warranted a break if I was to be serious about pacing myself for over a month in Brazil. Took two days off and searched for a professional massage. Found Caroline at [URL]https://copacabanamassagem.com/[/URL] who also advertises at [URL]https://destackterapias.com/a/ana-18/.[/URL] Tall attractive woman just like in the photos. The first visit I just did a 1 h relaxing massage for 180. Went back a second time later in the trip for a 1. 5 h tantra massage for 300. She gives a good professional massage and has some limited options available. Very nice set up too.
Next up was Solarium. I had high expectations based on reviews, but unfortunately this place was a disappointment. It was a lot smaller than I imagined, and not a lot of available seating when I was there. The selection of garotas was limited (15) and just a couple that tempted me but they were taken. After sitting around in a robe for 45 minutes, nursing a drink, I called it quits. Total loss was the 180 entry. At least I got to satisfy my curiosity about the place. It's always wise to have a Plan be, and 30 minutes later I was sitting in Monte Carlo. What a difference! Similar size venue, but this evening it was less crowded and the garota selection was off the charts compared to Solarium. About 15 garotas all in the 7. 5 - 8. 5 range and all available except one. I would have gone with half of them. Ended up choosing Marcela, a dark haired attractive branca. Had some drinks and chatted in the main area, her sales pitch was not as hands on as I had hoped, but she confirmed BBBJ and I decided to take her for an hour. She turned out to have skills and I had a good time. Total cost was 1060 BRL (180 entry, 300 suite, 500 service, 80 for two drinks). BTW, the receipt listed the total cost in USD and EUR as well, so presumably I could have paid in those currencies. The USD equivalent was about $193 which would be 1060/193 = 5. 5. Not sure what I'm missing but this is better than the official exchange rate. So Monte Carlo looks like a great option to spend USD.
I also checked out Casablanca one night. On my prior visit to Rio, Casablanca was my main spot and I had taken 4 girls from this club. Things have changed. Back in 2022 the entry was 100, which IIRC covered a drink each for yourself and the girl; the club exit fee to take a girl out was 200, and the girls were asking 500-600 for 1-2 hours. Now in 2025 the entry is still 100 which includes a drink for yourself only, with a limited choice of caipirinha, water, juice or soda. No beer! The girl drinks are in the 600-800 range, the exit fee is 600 and the girls are asking 1000. While the entry and the increased girls fee make sense, the club has evidently hiked their take from 200 to 1200 for having a drink with a girl and taking her out. Just nuts. Getting numbers can be tough here too, I did get a number from one girl but she seemed a little paranoid trying to do it discretely. The quality is good here though, so Casablanca is still perhaps an option but be prepared to spend $$$ for the first time and get her number to see her OTC after that for much less. I did see a couple girls get taken out during the hour I was there.
Near the end of the trip I also had a session with a girl from Life Massoterapia [URL]https://www.liferiodejaneiro.com/home[/URL] . They have a large selection of young attractive garotas, across 10 different locations. It is a low mileage massage chain with good amenities and limited options (HJ, nuru, 4-hands etc). I made an appointment with a hot busty branca. She was accommodating to everything I asked (within the limits of the place) and I ended up having a fantastic time. Lots of teasing and had her up on the table for the finish and blew between her tits. Got her number, and she was open to meeting up outside. Unfortunately my time in Rio was running out. I invited her over to my hotel for my last night in town but she was not available. Damn. Oh well, just one more reason to return to Rio again.
All in all a good second trip to Rio. Didn't even make it through half my TDL. The biggest shortcoming in Rio is the inferior selection of apartment rentals I've seen. I will definitely return and keep chipping away at this.
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[QUOTE=Esten;3043091]I started my last trip to Brazil with a 12-day stay in Rio. This was my second time in Rio. For accommodations I had a similar pattern in each city. Staying in Airbnb's most of the time but booking a hotel for a few days near the end, in case I wanted to have a guest over. I expect to be spending more time in Brazil and am playing a longer game now, so in no rush to bring guests to an apartment until I've found the right combination of both. The two apartments I stayed in Rio were OK, clean, big screen TVs, but not as modern or quiet as I like. Neither had amenities like gym or pool. Both in the range $65-$75/ night.
For transportation I used mostly Uber and the 99 ride app. I posted a detailed review of the latter a couple weeks ago and highly recommend getting the 99 ride app as an additional option when in Brazil. I also got a metro card and used the metro a handful of times, mainly for longer rides for example from Copacabana to Centro. Each ride is 7 BRL which is dirt cheap and can save a lot on long distance rides. However, I used Uber /99 most of the time as most rides were 15-30 BRL which is just $3-6 and much more convenient..[/QUOTE]How was Carolina? Did you go any further with her? I saw her three time last month in my trip to Rio. It was superb. Managed to fuck her tits and fuck her mouth.
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Rio Report
[QUOTE=Esten;3043091]I started my last trip to Brazil with a 12-day stay in Rio. This was my second time in Rio. For accommodations I had a similar pattern in each city. Staying in Airbnb's most of the time but booking a hotel for a few days near the end, in case I wanted to have a guest over. I expect to be spending more time in Brazil and am playing a longer game now, so in no rush to bring guests to an apartment until I've found the right combination of both. The two apartments I stayed in Rio were OK, clean, big screen TVs, but not as modern or quiet as I like. Neither had amenities like gym or pool. Both in the range $65-$75/ night.
For transportation I used mostly Uber and the 99 ride app. I posted a detailed review of the latter a couple weeks ago and highly recommend getting the 99 ride app as an additional option when in Brazil. I also got a metro card and used the metro a handful of times, mainly for longer rides for example from Copacabana to Centro. Each ride is 7 BRL which is dirt cheap and can save a lot on long distance rides. However, I used Uber /99 most of the time as most rides were 15-30 BRL which is just $3-6 and much more convenient.[/QUOTE][URL]https://copacabanamassagem.com/[/URL] I also highly recommend Caroline. I managed to fuck her tits and she sucked me off. Marvelous beautiful girl for a cheap price. Did you manage to go further, Esten?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3042977]I've essentially been a lone wolf for most of my mongering career. Too many guys do too many stupid things, and you can get caught up in their shit just through association. I couldn't take the risk, and needed to keep a low profile. The one time I did have a wingman, the guy turned out to be a stumbling drunk, acted like I was supposed to be his personal cambio and unpaid Spanish interpreter, and was digging all up in his nose scaring the tutes away! I swore never again! That said, that was a long time ago. These days, I would be open to the idea again with the right guy. For me, what would make a wingman "rght" would be somebody who likes to go to the same kind of places that I do first of all. I mean, if one guy likes going to Scandallo and the other guy is a cheap Charlie always trying to save a dime, then it's just not going to work. Second, it would help if the guy kind of rolls how I roll. I'm more of a "night league" monger than a "day league" monger. I prefer clubs to casas and prives. And, I like to hit no more than 1 to 2 joints max in a night versus running all over the place all over town. Settle in and take the scene in. Save some to monger another day (or night). Also, although not a high requirement, I think it would help if your potential wingman didn't like the exact same kind of girls that you do. That way, you won't be lusting for and perving on the same ones. Lastly, I think it would be good if both guys had experience that was the same or similar. I'm talking about the extent to which they have traveled, comfort level with being in a foreign country, especially if you don't speak the language. That sort of thing. Because it sucks when you feel like you have got to hold a grown man's hand through everything That would put a damper on my mojo and ruin my fun! These are things that I would think about if considering having a wingman.[/QUOTE]Thanks to all for a good discussion regarding my question about wingman. Reason why I brought it up was not really the issue about security and safety. Instead it was back to my thing regarding the visits to the prives. I was with a wingman for my Asia trip and he isn't just some bloke I met there. He's a long time friend I've known for decades but this was his first international mongering trip. The main concern I had especially if he chooses to come with me to my first Rio trip in the spring is when we tour the prives assuming that their rosters are going to be a lot smaller than the selections we'll see at the termas.
If at the first prive we spot only one doable girl and I take her, my friend might have to just wait in the lobby while I have my session. Although I would encourage him to just move onto the next prive on his own to try his luck there, I think he might be too chicken to do so without me (again due to his limited experience in traveling internationally in countries where English is not the main language). Then if I meet him at the next prive (s) where he did find somebody, am I going to have to wait in that lobby for him? The other scenario is if we agree to stay only at prives where there are at least two girls, one for each of us, so we can session at the same venue and we can leave when we are both done. I'm sure this would make him feel more comfortable but I recall back in Bangkok when we were exploring the side street massage places where rosters were also small, it took a few venues before we found one by accident where there were at least two girls we liked.
So that's why I'm trying to decide what to do which might even include telling my friend in advance that it will be too much of a waste of time for either of us to have to wait around for the other to finish up a session before moving onto another prive for the other guy. Just wanted some see if any of you guys had to deal with such an issue. Just seems that things are much less complicated when touring the prives solo.
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How old is Caroline? Is she exactly the same girl on pictures than in real? Did you fuck her or not? Because her website look very pro. How much did you pay?
[QUOTE=MistaTuta;3043124][URL]https://copacabanamassagem.com/[/URL] I also highly recommend Caroline. I managed to fuck her tits and she sucked me off. Marvelous beautiful girl for a cheap price. Did you manage to go further, Esten?[/QUOTE]
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Caroline
[QUOTE=Gilolo;3043218]How old is Caroline? Is she exactly the same girl on pictures than in real? Did you fuck her or not? Because her website look very pro. How much did you pay?[/QUOTE]She looks to be around 30-35 years old. And yes, she is exactly like The pics. I didn't have sex with her, but I got a titfuck and a blowjob. Despite seeming professional, she's a real ****. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. I paid around 600 Brazilian currency.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;3043088]Civilians?
Heavily armed bandits.[/QUOTE]Yeah but in civil, civilian refer to people who are not into the army or the police force. The dude from Texas with 25 ak47 and 3 bazooka in his collector lobby still a civilian if he is not in uniform.
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Longest day of the year.
In 4 hours we hit 21st Dec, the Summer Solstice, and longest day of the year, and we begin the slide back to 21 June.
Now, the water is warm enough to swim on warm days, best at praia macumba.
Yesterday vagabundo went and did a program with Ann Amari at Hotel Lips in centro for 300 r for her, and 240 r for a hidro suite for 4 hours with some food. Ganja was smoked. Djonga was played in the hidro. So was Hotel California, Fleetwood mac, and chris Isaak. Not the longest or best cost per fuck per minute, but the over all experience was excellent. She is not a prostitute, as she makes her money flipping burgers 6 days a week, and I admire her character, which is why I throw her a fuck which is for her a huge windfall. She buys rice and beans for 10 reais that last her 3 days, and food for the pitbull I bought her 3 years ago for her security in her rental apartment in a favela. I am considering giving her a big cash gift to outright buy a house, and some technology. I have gotten her out of prostitution, so step by step.
You can't lose your humanity. You should show a record of helping these people, as karma is a ***** and her name is Dilma, a past president of Brazil, and you should make some record of helping these providers to get skills so that they can have their lives too, maybe even a future you share.
Maybe this is the wrong place for this, but I would submit that it is exactly the right place. It's been a good holiday season so far. I've settled into my apartment. Pool opens at 9, and when I need to use the bathroom, I go and use the bathroom by the pool, and swim some laps afterwards, just to take full advantage of the facilities. Often I order a coffee and some eggs at the pool diner. At 10 h, I have my hoars trained to hit me up and schedule. I prefer the ones who don't smoke ganja because they fuck longer with fewer respiratory issues and remember to keep schedules. I have real college student muay Thai teammates who go with me to surf hostels to watch full seasons of violent women killing evil men while I swim, and refugee women from eastern Europe seeking out my company, but I am just a dude playing a dude to quote Downey in Tropic thunder, I am a wannabe zohan script writer, a hairstylist at heart hanging out at the beach.
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[QUOTE=BennieBen;3043245]Yeah but in civil, civilian refer to people who are not into the army or the police force. The dude from Texas with 25 ak47 and 3 bazooka in his collector lobby still a civilian if he is not in uniform.[/QUOTE]Yes, but not a violent career criminal with AK47 (one is enough) who won't blink before using it on anyone who stands in his way. You can argue that trigger-happy Brazilian cops are no angels either, but professional gangsters are no civilians.