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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]The bouncers can be a real pain in the ass if you are not white enough and they don't know you. It is not always so but I have seen it happen a few times.

I have seen it at Neptunes.

My recommendation is to go with a caucasian friend the first time you try to enter Neptunes. It may also happen at Makati and Laguna as well. I'd recommend if you don't have a white western friend with you, to find one outside of the bar to 'accompany' you inside. Just explain the situation to someone outside. It easier now to socialize this way as smokers are outside of the bars on the street.

It really unfortunate situation for non-caucasian westerners but there must be a reason for it. These bars are not new, they have been around for decades.

At certain times, non-caucasians will get in but will have to 'pay the cover charge' which at some bars may be 200HKD to enter.

At times when US Navy is in town, the cover charge is enforced for the non-local people but local and regulars are let in for free. It's not fair but if you don't like it go elsewhere.

Even inside of the bars, non-caucasians will have more difficulty with the local service providers, all else being equal.

This is one of the expat locales in Hong Kong, perhaps the best known location. There are other parts of Hong Kong where the discrimination goes the other direction.

Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]
My personal experience with Wanchai bouncers as an Asian-American has been positive. Some of the doorman are even friendly, including those at Neptune and Laguna. Of all my years of visiting Wanchai, the only place I was asked to pay a "membership fee" was Fenwicks. All the while, white customers walked straight in without any hassle. Regardless, I don't blame doormen for such actions. They are only carrying out orders from management or owners.

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet]I assume the prices you quoted are HDK and not USD[/QUOTE]
Yes, 500 HKD.

[quote=temujin87]37d 1st floor: this is fun stuff, especially when you speak the language. i'll describe the process in detail for the newbies. the place is dressed up as a ktv. when you go in, (depending on your language skills), you'll be taken into a room. the mama comes in, explains the fee, which is around $390, and will then start bringing in girls. here comes great time to practice your canto/mando: you get to chat with the girl for 2-3 minutes. it's fun to fuck with these hookers. some will grab your dick right away, some will play hard to get (laugh). if you dislike the girl, no rush, she'll walk out and bring another one in. you will then be taken up to a hotel upstairs, which ranges from $80-100. the whole thing comes out to be ~$500. you are guaranteed 50 minutes with the girl, unlike 141. how much fun you have is entirely up to you. 37d 1st have some hot part-timers. how much fun you can have after the paid encounter is again, up to you. word of warning: weekend nights are crowded and the 50 minutes feel more rushed, but that's when many part timers show up.[/quote]
quick beginner's guide. i have just arrived in hk for my first time so will report on all my activities.

arrived at hong kong with an itch that needed scratching so decided to go for what seemed the simplest option: 37d dundas street. decided to take a taxi but apparently got in a non-kowloon taxi, so he very kindly drove me 100m to a kowloon taxi. $20, no worries! the taxi drivers don't speak english, so i had the address written down, and marked on a map which helped a bit. the taxi price was about $50, perhaps less, but i caught the subway back and that was faster and cheaper. arrived at dundas street and couldn't spot many building numbers so i thought it would be tricky to find. it's not, it's the one with all the pictures of semi-naked girls all over the walls. :)

walk up one flight of stairs and greeted by mama-san, who quickly walked me into a semi-dark room. offered me a drink and i accepted a beer (small can) which i think was free? the deal was $390 for the girl, and $100 for the room, paid separately. saw a line-up of 4 girls (this was 3pm on a saturday), of whom i would judge 5-7. they weren't beautiful but not ugly, but a bit chunky for my tastes. the most attractive was the chunkiest, so i had to let her go. actually in the semi-dark you can't really see very well, which is fine. picked the one who gave the most smiles, and she sat down briefly and squeezed my leg. result! then off to the room.

ok room with double bed and adjacent shower. long thorough cleaning process combined with a bit of body rubbing and a short bbbj in the shower. then on to the bed, face down for a cat-bath, which i haven't experienced for a few years, plus ar. quite enjoyed it really. then over on to my back for similar, culminating with a bbbj. it was actually very good, especially when i made her slow down. she wanted the condom then, but i thought it was time to give her some attention. so a nice daty session, which she giggled at first, but was quite happy with. by the way, hairy pussies are not my thing, but this is china...

pillow under her ass and licking away which she seemed to enjoy (who knows?), then condom on. missionary, doggy, and cowgirl. most in doggy which i like, but it was more her lying on a pillow with her ass sticking up and me standing behind. lots of fake moaning and i was tempted to ask her to stop, but then realised without the moaning she would have nothing to do and might fall asleep :( passion, you can't beat it! she was keen to speed up the cw but i like it slow and gentle. then phone rang for time-up, i indicated 5 more minutes and let her let rip, which i guess pleased both of us.

finally all done and she cleaned me up. she became quite affectionate at this point and i almost thought about a tip... given complete absence of language it was quite a pleasant experience overall. finally out of the door and walked down the corridor. met by a very cute mama-san who asks if there were any problems, and i say no.

total time, certainly not more than 50 minutes from meeting girl to out of room, but ok for a first blast. total cost $490. girl's name was tsun-tsun or similar. don't particularly recommend her, but she was ok. would i return? no, because there are other places to go and things to do.

now i have to go out and find tonight's catch. wish me luck!

I thought I'd check out the Wan Chai bars in the early evening so as to be prepared for the evening's activities. I spotted most of the ones I had heard about. I saw a typically Thai bar on the corner of one street (forget the name but I'll edit this post tomorrow), and had a quick look inside. I was immediately dragged in by 4 very forceful youngish ladies (one was strong enough to be a ladyboy...). I said that I was just coming in for a beer and nothing else, but was persuaded to buy just 2 lady drinks between the 4 ladies. I did not ask the price, which is plainly printed on the wall. $220 each. And again to be fare the (very pushy) mama-san did tell me after I had bought a total of 4 drinks. But I was still in Korea mind-set where 20,000 Dong is about 5p, so I hadn't got my decimal points right. I paid up by credit card before realising my stupidity, but took it on the chin and put it down to experience. OK, I'll confess, the cc chit says food and beverages, so that's going on expenses. :(

And again to be fair, the 4 girls took me to a secluded rear part of the bar where they did all kinds of nasty things to me, although nothing to completion. During the process I can confirm that they were real girls, with all relevant working parts. Luckily I was freshly showered and they commented on my pleasant aroma!

The final potential benefit was that the mama-san reduced the LT price from $3000 to $1500 if I came back at midnight. There was one girl there I really did fancy, although to my amazement she was 36 (and I am used to Thai girls).

Did I go back? You'll have to wait for the next installment, which will be called 'Bliss in Hong Kong' or similar...

What kind of trouble and how?

[QUOTE=Wah Stephen]Be careful. A lot of Craiglist ad will get you into some type of trouble. Use conventional routes with clear business models.[/QUOTE]

hi,

the selection is not as good during off hours. regarding the 50 -> you can enforce it if you want. some girls will let you have 2 pops during the session. here is a tip - never tip! it's ok to tip the higher-end hotel res girls.

[quote=mouse1]quick beginner's guide. i have just arrived in hk for my first time so will report on all my activities.

arrived at hong kong with an itch that needed scratching so decided to go for what seemed the simplest option: 37d dundas street. decided to take a taxi but apparently got in a non-kowloon taxi, so he very kindly drove me 100m to a kowloon taxi. $20, no worries! the taxi drivers don't speak english, so i had the address written down, and marked on a map which helped a bit. the taxi price was about $50, perhaps less, but i caught the subway back and that was faster and cheaper. arrived at dundas street and couldn't spot many building numbers so i thought it would be tricky to find. it's not, it's the one with all the pictures of semi-naked girls all over the walls. :)

walk up one flight of stairs and greeted by mama-san, who quickly walked me into a semi-dark room. offered me a drink and i accepted a beer (small can) which i think was free? the deal was $390 for the girl, and $100 for the room, paid separately. saw a line-up of 4 girls (this was 3pm on a saturday), of whom i would judge 5-7. they weren't beautiful but not ugly, but a bit chunky for my tastes. the most attractive was the chunkiest, so i had to let her go. actually in the semi-dark you can't really see very well, which is fine. picked the one who gave the most smiles, and she sat down briefly and squeezed my leg. result! then off to the room.

ok room with double bed and adjacent shower. long thorough cleaning process combined with a bit of body rubbing and a short bbbj in the shower. then on to the bed, face down for a cat-bath, which i haven't experienced for a few years, plus ar. quite enjoyed it really. then over on to my back for similar, culminating with a bbbj. it was actually very good, especially when i made her slow down. she wanted the condom then, but i thought it was time to give her some attention. so a nice daty session, which she giggled at first, but was quite happy with. by the way, hairy pussies are not my thing, but this is china...

pillow under her ass and licking away which she seemed to enjoy (who knows?), then condom on. missionary, doggy, and cowgirl. most in doggy which i like, but it was more her lying on a pillow with her ass sticking up and me standing behind. lots of fake moaning and i was tempted to ask her to stop, but then realised without the moaning she would have nothing to do and might fall asleep :( passion, you can't beat it! she was keen to speed up the cw but i like it slow and gentle. then phone rang for time-up, i indicated 5 more minutes and let her let rip, which i guess pleased both of us.

finally all done and she cleaned me up. she became quite affectionate at this point and i almost thought about a tip... given complete absence of language it was quite a pleasant experience overall. finally out of the door and walked down the corridor. met by a very cute mama-san who asks if there were any problems, and i say no.

total time, certainly not more than 50 minutes from meeting girl to out of room, but ok for a first blast. total cost $490. girl's name was tsun-tsun or similar. don't particularly recommend her, but she was ok. would i return? no, because there are other places to go and things to do.

now i have to go out and find tonight's catch. wish me luck![/quote]

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]What kind of trouble and how?[/QUOTE]The fact that you don't know what you're getting yourself into? This is still China, and things will go wrong in China.

Craigslist by itself is not often used by the locals, so it's an obvious foreigner trap.

[QUOTE=Gren62]My personal experience with Wanchai bouncers as an Asian-American has been positive. Some of the doorman are even friendly, including those at Neptune and Laguna. Of all my years of visiting Wanchai, the only place I was asked to pay a "membership fee" was Fenwicks. All the while, white customers walked straight in without any hassle. Regardless, I don't blame doormen for such actions. They are only carrying out orders from management or owners.[/QUOTE]I would say that is DEFINITELY true if you are non-white attempting to walk in. (speaking as a dark skinned spanish guy, I've been told quite a number of times in no uncertain means, to get the fu*k away and NEVER come back).

However if I'm with my local friends or with a obvious white chap, there evil looks are there, but they won't start the same arguments.

I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?

[QUOTE=Goferring]I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?[/QUOTE]My experience is that HK is expensive. You can drop a lot of money in the clubs and bars, and before you know it you have spent the cost of an airfare to BKK.

But, if I lived here I would definitely find a classy girl occasionally, as I think the level of beauty is higher here than in Thailand.

I don't know why 37 Dundas is mentioned so much in these forums?

Coming out of the place I realised that there were several similar establishments around. Diagonally opposite the X-road there is a 'hotel' with 6 floors of MPs, with a short entrance alley showing all the beautifully photoshopped girls.

As I was there a quite attractive girl came in and waited for the lift. I asked her where she worked and she said the 6th floor. She also gave me a quick low-down on prices. Although I couldn't really follow, the prices ended around $700, and P4P being what it is, that is probably the minimum price you would end up paying.

I have her name and I'm tempted to go back this evening.

There was another place in the opposite direction with a sign on the door listing the prices for different nationalities - I'm sure I've seen that sign on the internet. I went into check prices, and they all seemed a little higher than on the door, and for maximum 30 minutes. Too short for me.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I don't know why 37 Dundas is mentioned so much in these forums?[/QUOTE]
Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.

And you are right, according to my local friends, there are many establishments like 37 Dundas in that part of Hong Kong and again according to them, they are there to cater to local people. gweilos are supposed to go to Wan Chai to get their fix.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Goferring]I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?[/QUOTE]
Or take the 1 hour ferry ride to Macau.

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.

And you are right, according to my local friends, there are many establishments like 37 Dundas in that part of Hong Kong and again according to them, they are there to cater to local people. gweilos are supposed to go to Wan Chai to get their fix.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]


Agree 100% with APAC Man. If you had Chinese skill you could try your luck in any of the other places but there is still no guarantee that you would have a good experience. There used to be at the peak 400 Yellow Sign brothels in Mong Kok.

Even being Chinese, you can have a shitty time. I went to a 141 address to find it was closed and tried a YS downstairs. Has a great time with the gal but when it came time to pay, the price was inflated from the $300 on the sign below to $360. Was told it was for "happy hour" and they had a small sign with fine print on the back door that actually said that. Gal was so great that I would definitely been a multiple repeat but after that BS I never went back to that place.

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.[/QUOTE]Same here. Not a word of Chinese.

But the girl I spoke to had good English, and seemed very welcoming. That's why I asked.