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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3054843]I went to Eden Spa in Copacanana (Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 - Sala 401 - Copacabana), 240 Reales for an hour. Lineup of 4 ladies, picked one, after gave her a 50 reales tip.[/QUOTE]Lots of gringos goes to these privées in Copacabana. Tipping those girls ruins for your fellow mongers.
This is one reason I don't share info on privées that are new on the monger scene.
[QUOTE=RioBob;3054560]Interesting you say this as Centaurus has had a bad reputation in recent years as being overpriced and overhyped. On google scandalo gets stunning reviews, can you elaborate on your assessment of both places? I'm in Rio now and was contemplating a short trip to scandalo as I have never been and thought I owed myself a visit.[/QUOTE]If you have never been, then I would definitely recommend you go and check it out. Centaurus vs Scandello would be like McDonald's vs fine dining restaurants. Simplest way I can explain it.
[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=ev9_h_v2DCZ6iKiD[/URL]
One word with video -- the beach.
Rio is a megacity with 12 m, sp with 20 m.
There are megarich in both, but the best quality of life is in Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, which is where there are a ton of Paulistanos not to mention Argentinians. Those with the money and TIME live in Barra. In a megacity of 12 m, there are enough beautiful women for any dick to be happy. Again, my intent is to de escalate. This is a discussion about Mercedes v BMW, or whether your security detail if you can afford one carries glocks or HK.
Peace, and again, the real measure of wealth is days per year in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, with cost per fuck per minute per days per year in Brazil.
If on the days you don't post 119 times, you are out of rio, there's a great sale on fleshlights on amazon, and the upsell at the local Asian massage parlor is not too bad, and the cops down on Fig really might not arrest you.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3054893]And now even more nonsense about the hottest girls doing to Rio over SP to sell pussy. Its just endless streams of terrible information and bad advice leading people down the garden path.
SP is the financial and commercial heart of the country. Its where the wealthiest Brazilians live and its where the wealthiest international businessmen travel through. Those are the men the women target, not expats on a tight budget timing things down to the minute. There is a reason why all the upmarket clubs are in SP and not in Rio, and that's because the locals who live there are 95% of the demand and have money to spend. Tourists and foreigners are a drop in the bucket. The best looking women go to the city with the largest amount of wealthy men and it shows the minute you walk into those boates.
Speak to most working girls outside Rio and ask them what they think of the place, you will hear it right from their own mouths. More money in SP, less dangerous too.[/QUOTE]
Went to 4 x4 last night around 8 pm. Was pretty quiet maybe 20-30 girls. Not impressed by the quality. Took one girl's number. Might see her outside of club later this week. Before heading home went to Mabs, which is close to my apartment. Quite a few foreigners there. Girls below average. Had a beer an left. Tonight thinking to checkout Casablanca and Dolce Vita.
[QUOTE=Safado007;3054977]Went to 4 x4 last night around 8 pm. Was pretty quiet maybe 20-30 girls. Not impressed by the quality. Took one girl's number. Might see her outside of club later this week. Before heading home went to Mabs, which is close to my apartment. Quite a few foreigners there. Girls below average. Had a beer an left. Tonight thinking to checkout Casablanca and Dolce Vita.[/QUOTE]Beware the exit fee at Casablanca is astonishingly high. 600 R as I recall. Best to ask before entry rather than as you exit and have a girl on your arm. And the onsite "room" (yes one) is like a closet with a bed in it. That said I paid the exhorbitant fee (I did have a girl on my arm) and she was a winner.
And remember DV doesn't really rolll till 1 am. Final tip is u can use DV as a dance club. I brought my casa Blanca girl there and we danced for hours before fucking. Since I brought her in there is no exit fee.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3054893]And now even more nonsense about the hottest girls doing to Rio over SP to sell pussy. Its just endless streams of terrible information and bad advice leading people down the garden path.
SP is the financial and commercial heart of the country. Its where the wealthiest Brazilians live and its where the wealthiest international businessmen travel through. Those are the men the women target, not expats on a tight budget timing things down to the minute. There is a reason why all the upmarket clubs are in SP and not in Rio, and that's because the locals who live there are 95% of the demand and have money to spend. Tourists and foreigners are a drop in the bucket. The best looking women go to the city with the largest amount of wealthy men and it shows the minute you walk into those boates.
Speak to most working girls outside Rio and ask them what they think of the place, you will hear it right from their own mouths. More money in SP, less dangerous too.[/QUOTE]Completely agree.
I was in Rio month ago, visited major termas and some massage places, and overall Rio, from the mongering point of view, feels like provincial city, compare to SP, as a big capital.
I. hate copa reason 69.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3054988]Beware the exit fee at Casablanca is astonishingly high. 600 R as I recall. Best to ask before entry rather than as you exit and have a girl on your arm. And the onsite "room" (yes one) is like a closet with a bed in it. That said I paid the exhorbitant fee (I did have a girl on my arm) and she was a winner.
And remember DV doesn't really rolll till 1 am. Final tip is u can use DV as a dance club. I brought my casa Blanca girl there and we danced for hours before fucking. Since I brought her in there is no exit fee.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guest19;3055005]Completely agree.
I was in Rio month ago, visited major termas and some massage places, and overall Rio, from the mongering point of view, feels like provincial city, compare to SP, as a big capital.[/QUOTE]All you need to do is ask the girls in other cities like Floripa or Curitiba why they don't choose Rio, or the the girls in SP why they choose SP over Rio. Its always the same answer, more money in SP and Rio has a major crime issue unless you can afford to live in the best areas. Every second ***** you meet in SP seems to come from Minas, Goais or Santa Catarina.
The only people who are saying the quality and ratios in the termas is on par with the SP boates are the people who can't afford to fuck in them.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3054843]I went to Eden Spa in Copacanana (Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 - Sala 401 - Copacabana), 240 Reales for an hour. Lineup of 4 ladies, picked one, after gave her a 50 reales tip.
The place is only 3 blocks from my condo.[/QUOTE]Jeez dude, how many hundreds of times have people posted "DO NOT GIVE A TIP TO THESE WORKING GIRLS! It conditions them to think that all gringos are fucking stupid!! Repeat visits = Tipping!
Actually, I think SP is more dangerous than Rio. More cell phone thefts occur in SP, and the violence is just as bad.
And if you can afford to live in the safe areas in Rio, like Barra, you are at the mo-fucking beach.
Like, when I feel the need to take a piss, I go to The Beach
[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=d8IYczfRatOna119[/URL]
I live here.
Like, I stumble out of bed with some hoar from perola, and I go here.
And as for the putaria, well it is all a putaria. You walk down olegario maciel, go to pineapple, there are hoars. Go to bar do adao, there are hoars. Go to practica, there are hoars. Hot ass girls from minas come up to me on olegario while I am going to the bathroom and they give ME their number, and they are hot.
The real Brazilians prefer Barra the Tijuca.
Look at that video of Scandallo that The Cane posted. You are paying for land scaping.
On the other hand, I have palm trees at the beach, at the surf club on the real beach.
At scandallo, you are paying for waterfalls to simulate the waterfalls and the beach.
In Rio, you have actual beach, and actual waterfalls.
Anyway, I am not saying you are wrong, it's just that I am rich. Rich enough to fuck any girl I want in Rio, rich enough to go to any restaurant I want in Rio. I am rich enough to go live in SP, but I don't want a 90 minute ride to Santos for a shitty beach.
I am at posto 3 barra, and posto 12 barra is the best surf beach in Rio.
Hot ass, real paulistana SP women who want to surf come to Recreio dos bandeirantes.
Yes, the most beautiful women in Brazil come to SP for money because it is a financial capital. You can't go wrong picking between SP and RJ, just like Mercedes and BMW are good choices, and Glock and HK are good choices.
But if they have money, and freedom, the women come to Rio because of the beach.
You can drive around in the rich world like Jamie Foxx in that tom cruise assassin movie with a picture of the beach, or you can actually go to the mo-fuggin beach.
And as for the girls, it is the same girls. I can show you pictures, but some are my actual friends, and I wouldn't want them sending out my picture. Like Penelope 2020 from 4 x4/ perola / SP Hi end prives / Europe / bali. There is a new Penelope, hot ass blond at perola negra now. I could send you her # too. I fucked her, we all fucked her, have you fucked her? You should. Blond like put her on the hood of a fucking Mercedes blonde with a suppressed HK pistol blond.
You only need 4 kunts a week.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3055037]All you need to do is ask the girls in other cities like Floripa or Curitiba why they don't choose Rio, or the the girls in SP why they choose SP over Rio. Its always the same answer, more money in SP and Rio has a major crime issue unless you can afford to live in the best areas. Every second ***** you meet in SP seems to come from Minas, Goais or Santa Catarina.
The only people who are saying the quality and ratios in the termas is on par with the SP boates are the people who can't afford to fuck in them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3054988]Beware the exit fee at Casablanca is astonishingly high. 600 R as I recall. Best to ask before entry rather than as you exit and have a girl on your arm. And the onsite "room" (yes one) is like a closet with a bed in it. That said I paid the exhorbitant fee (I did have a girl on my arm) and she was a winner.
And remember DV doesn't really rolll till 1 am. Final tip is u can use DV as a dance club. I brought my casa Blanca girl there and we danced for hours before fucking. Since I brought her in there is no exit fee.[/QUOTE]Last night I went to Casablanca around midnight. Cover was 100 Reais, 1 drink included. It was pretty busy, maybe 20+ girls and quite a few customers. With the quality I was pleasantly surprised. Comparing to SP, I'd say like a good night at Bomboa, a place as the other top boates in SP I visited likely close to a 100 times over the past years. At least 5 girls I would have taken out. But!! As mentioned here before 600 R take out fee, which I would never consider to pay. If I recall correctly girl's drink options were 800/1200 for these rose so called champagne bottles. Insane!
I observed similar always repeating interactions between girls and customers. Conversation starts, after a while girl informs about drink options and saida fee, conversation ends. Bye Bye. Instead of having a good time, drinking and partying together the atmosphere is kinda awkward. Many girls and customers just standing alone. If they would offer moderately priced girl's drinks at around 100 are range I think the place would be not too bad. Is seems management prefers to count on few idiots buying the champagne bottles. Over the 2 hours period I saw one girl leaving with a customer.
Will go back and just collect phone numbers. Not 100% sure if possible, it seemed there were no issues with that. Most guys were using their phones for translation anyway. From Casablanca walked over to DV. Around 2 am not too busy, very dark. Girls quality not good. After few drinks I left.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3055079]Actually, I think SP is more dangerous than Rio. More cell phone thefts occur in SP, and the violence is just as bad.
And if you can afford to live in the safe areas in Rio, like Barra, you are at the mo-fucking beach.
Like, when I feel the need to take a piss, I go to The Beach
[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=d8IYczfRatOna119[/URL]
I live here.
Like, I stumble out of bed with some hoar from perola, and I go here.
And as for the putaria, well it is all a putaria. You walk down olegario maciel, go to pineapple, there are hoars. Go to bar do adao, there are hoars. Go to practica, there are hoars. Hot ass girls from minas come up to me on olegario while I am going to the bathroom and they give ME their number, and they are hot.
The real Brazilians prefer Barra the Tijuca.
Look at that video of Scandallo that The Cane posted. You are paying for land scaping.
On the other hand, I have palm trees at the beach, at the surf club on the real beach..[/QUOTE]This is why I keep saying your advice is terrible, because its advice provided purely from your perspective as someone who lives in Rio. You are writing a personal blog for an audience of yourself at this point. Any criticism of this and you immediately try to frame it as jealousy, its really pathetic man.
The vast majority of people who visit this forum don't live in Rio or Brazil, they travel to Brazil for short trips where they need to maximize their time on the ground. Rio offers a far better lifestyle long term than SP does for my tastes too, but lifestyle means nothing for people who are coming for short trips. Its utterly irrelevant to them, and if you were capable of looking at this from their perspective rather than yours this would not be hard for you to see.
The SP Boates and massage shops monster everything on offer in Rio, and its not even close. Its absurd to say Rio competes with SP's clubs and massage joints. Most people don't have time to navigate Rio to the extent that you are preaching because they don't live there. So when you are bullshitting people about the quality on offer and the easy access to it, you are selling an experience most people won't have access to if they don't have time on the ground. Which is why I say your posts are nothing more than mental masturbation throwing around horrible advice because the only reason you have to post this shit is that you think it impresses people.
You are not helping anyone, your posts are actually detrimental to those who try and follow your advice if they are on shorter trips. You do them all such a massive disservice when you present a picture that is not a reality of most tourists. I personally prefer Rio to SP for longer stays, but if I was only in for 5-6 days there is simply no point choosing Rio over SP if you primary focus is Brazilian pussy. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit and should be outright ignored at this point, because there is no way anyone can say that with a straight face if they actually have experience on the ground.
Each city has its strengths, but misleading people the way you do is not cool at all.
Vagabundo, can I ask... Where else have you lived and/or traveled frequently to engage in mongering? Did you end up in RJ after scouring the globe for the best spot, or did you find RJ and say, "It can't get better than this"?
I am just trying to add some context to your point of view, stories, knowledge, etc.
Thanks!
Senor Wayne Roberts.
So, we agree, as you have written.
Look, I am a lawyer, and a writer. Knowledge advances through an adversarial (but respectful) process, sometimes. As here.
The lifestyle is NOT irrelevant. The beach is always preferable to some, which is why even in the middle of land locked SP, you pay 400 reais entrada for landscaping to fake the beach at Scandallo -- for the exact same girls, for the exact same pussy. Just to stay on a pussy we all fucked, Penelope, super hot blond from 2020 4 x4. She was from Minas Gerais, which is a clue.
You can fuck at Perola Negra, then walk onto a real, safe beach in Barra.
Ask anyone? Who is the real mo-fuggin' king o Brazil?
Renzo Gracie.
The Gracie house is like steps from Paris Cafe at Posto 10, Barra.
SOme of you want to know my mongering background -- Rio, Tijuana, Pattaya, Okinawa, all over Europe, all over Asia, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq, Nogales AZ. This board is anon. You want to meet up? 17 March is my 6 year anniversary in Rio. Mosaico and Secret Terma are planned. Meet at Metro Uruguiana. Details to follow.
My intent is not to be adversarial. I understand. Rabbi Vagabundo knows that Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome is real, as is TDS, which is why the rich world is pussy prison, due to Feminazi's who have TDS and your male genitalia by the balls.
Now, more to the point, if you only have 6 days in Rio, you should follow Toastmonger if you have the money, and stay at Barra Grand Hyatt, and get girls from prives. There is a prisma terepias in Barra near the metro jardim oceanico.
And you should train MMA like the Gracies. You should get your testicles out of bed. You should go swim. You should do some clean and jerks. You should go to a prive and fuck for no more than 200 r per hour. You should go to MMA for 2 hours after that.
Vagabundo Gracie thus commands all good Israelis to live your life thusly, call it krav maga, if you want but that is for people who don't train real Brazilian MMA, especially Muay Thai.
Oh, yeah, and lislopes dances at perola negra on Thursdays.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3055204]Rio offers a far better lifestyle long term than SP does for my tastes too, but lifestyle means nothing for people who are coming for short trips. Its utterly irrelevant to them, and if you were capable of looking at this from their perspective rather than yours this would not be hard for you to see.
I personally prefer Rio to SP for longer stays, but if I was only in for 5-6 days there is simply no point choosing Rio over SP if you primary focus is Brazilian pussy. .[/QUOTE]
The drink prices make no sense. The awkward atmosphere ruins it further. There's no incentive to converse over a drink or dance. The place must rely on completely shit faced guys making bad decisions. It's not like a MDE Gusto's where you can kick back with a bottle and cycle chicks through.
[QUOTE=Safado007;3055133]Last night I went to Casablanca around midnight. Cover was 100 Reais, 1 drink included. It was pretty busy, maybe 20+ girls and quite a few customers. With the quality I was pleasantly surprised. Comparing to SP, I'd say like a good night at Bomboa, a place as the other top boates in SP I visited likely close to a 100 times over the past years. At least 5 girls I would have taken out. But!! As mentioned here before 600 R take out fee, which I would never consider to pay. If I recall correctly girl's drink options were 800/1200 for these rose so called champagne bottles. Insane!
I observed similar always repeating interactions between girls and customers. Conversation starts, after a while girl informs about drink options and saida fee, conversation ends. Bye Bye. Instead of having a good time, drinking and partying together the atmosphere is kinda awkward. Many girls and customers just standing alone. If they would offer moderately priced girl's drinks at around 100 are range I think the place would be not too bad. Is seems management prefers to count on few idiots buying the champagne bottles. Over the 2 hours period I saw one girl leaving with a customer.
Will go back and just collect phone numbers. Not 100% sure if possible, it seemed there were no issues with that. Most guys were using their phones for translation anyway. From Casablanca walked over to DV. Around 2 am not too busy, very dark. Girls quality not good. After few drinks I left.[/QUOTE]