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[QUOTE=Yujin;1718910]CIS is an acronym or abbreviation that I wasn't familiar with so I did a Google search and the top search results for CIS refer to:

CIS = Cisgender and cissexual (often abbreviated to simply CIS) describe related types of gender identity where individuals' experiences of their own gender match the sex they were assigned at birth.

Secondarily on the search result is:

Commonwealth of Independent States (former republics of the USSR).

If you're referring to the Commonwealth of Independent States (former republics of the USSR), it's been asked and answered to the point of ad nauseam on this forum. In a nutshell, check out Grace Hotel or one of the many nightclubs like Climax and Spasso.

If you're looking for a non-Thai CIS (cisgender) girl, that's a subject that I have no knowledge and the moderator might not allow.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your advice. Apologies for not being clear. I was talking about girls from the former USSR. Basically Russian girls, Eastern European girls and girls from Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1720672]I respect them as an artist. Degradation by copulation with less attractive member of species is very primitive concept which I do not buy. I have slept with older, less attractive woman and never felt degraded nor they felt any degradation. There is nothing wrong with paying for sex and everything is wrong with lying for sex. Paying for sex do not degrade woman, man or LB while lying not only robs them of their dignity but leaves them emotionally devastated.

Ruhama in dublin comes up with similar rant about "real men do not buy sex".[/QUOTE]We do, and we will keep on doing it. It doesn't make it right, and it doesn't justify it.

[QUOTE=JDSal;1720689]Eloquently spoken Syzygies. Had a little too much Prague wine when I wrote my post. But the fact remains that if the guy says something not too honest in the heat of the moment, that's his business. I'm sure these ladies heard it all before. The one thing I also know is that very few are doing what they do because they love to have sex with strange men. Having been married to a wonderful kind SW, and having known several of her friends (associates), I have a little insight. They become very good actresses as they want to increase their income. The mongers all talk of their sexual conquests with these ladies, the ladies talk about their financial conquests with the customer. Believe me, they could easily live without the sex if they had the money. My lady was so happy to quit, that she eventually cut all contact with any friends she had in the business and even long time friends who just knew of her work. She didn't even want to go out anywhere that her customers took her to in the past. Not because she was afraid to be recognized, but because it made her think about her past. Nobody would have recognized her I'm sure of that. She was good at what she did, but she wanted nothing to do with it or to be reminded of it till the day she passed away. She was ashamed of what she felt she had to do to help her family. When ever she thought about it, she would tell me how dirty she felt and that she was a very bad person. Yet she was actually an angel and always wanted to help people. For your information, I met her at the business she started while working at an escort agency. Our first date, she told me everything because she wanted to be honest with me right from the start. Yes I do use the services of ladies now as I do not want to date or marry again. I know that makes me a hypocrite as well, but I will not fool myself to believe that it is something more than what it is. Nor will I disrespect them by having them do things that are degrading. In fact many times I just want the company. It actually makes me laugh when these guys brag about what they did and how much the ladies loved it. Believe me, if you took longer than 5 minutes, you were not their favorite customer.[/QUOTE]You have 9 post and you're an expert on hookers. Well excuse me if I don't regard your opinion too highly because it is a very narrow minded one. You should be working w / the god squad and spread more guilt around, you did a pretty good job here. These are the facts, ladies can sell their bodies if they so choose. They can work in sweat shop for little to nothing 7 days a week, they can work in a department store for peanuts, or a million other low paying jobs. Some choose to be bargirls, freelancers, etc and they all have different opinions about their business, some like it, some hate it and the many in between that don't know what they want. Some will do very well, some will do okay and some will quit right away because it is too hard.

There is not only one scenario as you have stated in you sermon.

If tomorrow the USA legalized prostitution there would be a stampede to the market place by women of all means. This is called, capitalism, a free form of it and not the one in use in the USA and other self righteous religious countries. In the USA the individual is not in control of his or her body. Why? Just because the authorities think less harm will be done by protecting and preventing women from going into this line of work. In the USA we are not free, we're brain washed to think so but in practice it is not so.

Anyway, I could go on and on. I would not monger if I felt the ladies were hurting themselves. The truth that I objectively found is that it's like any other job and some like it and some don't. The ones who don't like it should change jobs and face whatever reality life has dealt them. If you feel sorry for the hookers then don't partake. I appreciate them and their courage, I respect them and when I am w / good people I treat them well and support their way of life.

Working people don't need or deserve our pity.

[QUOTE=Socker;1720762]You have 9 post and you're an expert on hookers.[/QUOTE]Dude why feed the troll? Look at his posting history. Up to now he has been shilling one lady and one escort agency; now it is long winded irrational rants.

SL.

Facts are opportunist did not prey on a working girl. He preyed on a non- working girl on Cupid who was looking for a serious relationship. He then had 3 dates with her and promised marriage and family to finally bang her. After the conquest he can't figure a way to get rid of her and ask for advice and help in doing so to avoid his marriage promise.

My reply was he was an A hole and to grow some testicles to man up and tell her the truth. Also anyone else that condones such behavior and tactics was an A hole too.

Many others have agreed with my opinion. Mean while he has not responded.

We did get a unrelated response or more like a rant regarding working girls from someone under the influence of Prague wine. The rant is more appropriate for Craigslist rants and raves.

I hope opportunist has enough balls to respond for himself.

[QUOTE=Socker;1720762]You have 9 post and you're an expert on hookers[/QUOTE]The number of posts in this forum or any forum is irrelevant. Some guys don't have to brag about every trip they make or girl they bang. They are content with reading, learning, planning and keep their conquests / stories / photos to themselves or their confidants. Or maybe this forum is just a vicarious form of entertainment. I read the forum quite a bit (for intel) and post once in awhile mostly to joke around but sometimes to help others. I've met some ISGers and tipped beers with them but I would never assume that someone who posts a lot on here has more credibility than one who doesn't.

[QUOTE=DCups;1720791]The number of posts in this forum or any forum is irrelevant. Some guys don't have to brag about every trip they make or girl they bang. They are content with reading, learning, planning and keep their conquests / stories / photos to themselves or their confidants. Or maybe this forum is just a vicarious form of entertainment. I read the forum quite a bit (for intel) and post once in awhile mostly to joke around but sometimes to help others. I've met some ISGers and tipped beers with them but I would never assume that someone who posts a lot on here has more credibility than one who doesn't.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more, ISG is an invaluable source of intel on mongering worldwide. It's just such a pity that the Thailand forum is abused so shamelessly by certain business's using obvious shilling and other subterfuges to mislead the inexperienced and also by a few sad souls who get a kick out of posting long winded badly written gratuitous accounts of their imagined sexual prowess. But there is so much that is worthwhile interesting and entertaining that for me at least it continues to be a "must read".

[QUOTE=Ersnh;1720380]After my last massage experience I no longer wish to gamble. Does anyone ask the mamasans for girls who specifically do French kissing, uncovered BJ's, anal, and whatever else you want? My last massage girl did the bare minimum, everything else was off bounds (not even kissing). I don't want that to happen again.[/QUOTE]Of course, if you don't ask (either the girl herself or the mamasan) you are setting yourself up for disappointment and frustration. Would you go and buy a car without checking its specs? Would you go to a restaurant and just order "'food' without explaining what you like?

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1720771]Dude why feed the troll? Look at his posting history. Up to now he has been shilling one lady and one escort agency; now it is long winded irrational rants.

SL.[/QUOTE]I should never involve myself in this sort of crap but I screw up once in a while. Thanks for setting me straight.

D. Cups, I guess you didn't read this hogwash.

[QUOTE=JDSal;1720689]Eloquently spoken Syzygies. Had a little too much Prague wine when I wrote my post. But the fact remains that if the guy says something not too honest in the heat of the moment, that's his business. I'm sure these ladies heard it all before. The one thing I also know is that very few are doing what they do because they love to have sex with strange men. Having been married to a wonderful kind SW, and having known several of her friends (associates), I have a little insight. They become very good actresses as they want to increase their income. The mongers all talk of their sexual conquests with these ladies, the ladies talk about their financial conquests with the customer. Believe me, they could easily live without the sex if they had the money. My lady was so happy to quit, that she eventually cut all contact with any friends she had in the business and even long time friends who just knew of her work. She didn't even want to go out anywhere that her customers took her to in the past. Not because she was afraid to be recognized, but because it made her think about her past. Nobody would have recognized her I'm sure of that. She was good at what she did, but she wanted nothing to do with it or to be reminded of it till the day she passed away. She was ashamed of what she felt she had to do to help her family. When ever she thought about it, she would tell me how dirty she felt and that she was a very bad person. Yet she was actually an angel and always wanted to help people. For your information, I met her at the business she started while working at an escort agency. Our first date, she told me everything because she wanted to be honest with me right from the start. Yes I do use the services of ladies now as I do not want to date or marry again. I know that makes me a hypocrite as well, but I will not fool myself to believe that it is something more than what it is. Nor will I disrespect them by having them do things that are degrading. In fact many times I just want the company. It actually makes me laugh when these guys brag about what they did and how much the ladies loved it. Believe me, if you took longer than 5 minutes, you were not their favorite customer.[/QUOTE]D. Cups, I guess you don't agree there is a credibility problem w/ this poster. Thank you though for explaining things for me. I don't agree w/ you at all though.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1720791]I would never assume that someone who posts a lot on here has more credibility than one who doesn't.[/QUOTE]Sorry gents to trash the forum w/ off topic crap. I'll be in BKK in Sept and post my TRs here and then.

More words of wisdom.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1720791] Some guys don't have to brag about every trip they make or girl they bang. They are content with reading, learning, planning and keep their conquests / stories / photos to themselves or their confidants.[/QUOTE]It keeps getting better and better. The best posters never post, I'll remember that, thanks again.

[QUOTE=DCups;1720791]The number of posts in this forum or any forum is irrelevant. Some guys don't have to brag about every trip they make or girl they bang. They are content with reading, learning, planning and keep their conquests / stories / photos to themselves or their confidants. Or maybe this forum is just a vicarious form of entertainment. I read the forum quite a bit (for intel) and post once in awhile mostly to joke around but sometimes to help others. I've met some ISGers and tipped beers with them but I would never assume that someone who posts a lot on here has more credibility than one who doesn't.[/QUOTE]This was essentially my reaction as well with one exception. If one sees a post touting some agency, shop, tour guide, or whatever, and the poster only has one or two posts, it does raise the question whether the post is just SPAM rather than an objective one. But to say the only ones here who are knowledgeable are those with a lot of posts doesn't make much sense. In fact, I had over 5,000 posts on a competing website before I had five or ten here. At that point in time the fact I only had a small number of posts here did not mean I didn't know a lot about the scene.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1720245]Dear Low life CS.

Grow some balls! You tell the girl you will marry her and give her a baby so you can bang her. Now you want to lie your way out of it. You are an A hole and anyone else who condones this is one too. With plenty of accessible pussy around and you prey on this girl?

Try telling her the truth!

DG8787.[/QUOTE]If she really is high class, and her family care about their self respect, you might want to move far away or at least change your address and the places you hang out. It's not a good idea to get on the wrong side of a Thai father, brothers or cousins looking for revenge against a low-ilfe farang.

After such a letdown at Annie's had to wonder if this would be a down day. Imagine a day when you went home empty handed in Bangkok, it was looking that way until the very end. Then the tables turned and I had one of the best all night sessions of this trip. Did about everything one can expect, headed down to the terminal 21 mall to get some cash and look around. Walked by the massage and BJ shops and was let down by the talent. Didn't want to head back to the hotel so figured I'd drink my way around until Nana opened. Hit several bars along nana and was approached by a girl I kicked out the other night, hoping I'd let her back in to ruin another night. Wasn't going to happen, she approached the area I was in but I had spotted her coming so quickly paid the tab and walked ten feet to another bar, close enough so she could see the move and that I was still in the area but out of her working area. It was at this second bar that I met my date for the night, but it almost didn't happen.

Finished up a round of drinks and a few games of pool and off to nana plaza, must have been a holiday because the place was slow. Went from bar to bar and the talent seemed 'alright' but nothing I wanted to waste big time money on a short time visit. Went back to that second bar and my honey came flying over, unfortunately she with now with a group of guys buying ladydrinks and couldn't leave their side. So off to Thermae, surely ID find a suitable overnight alternative. Amazingly struck out at Thermae, the lineup was a glimmer of itself from the day before. So now comes the walk, walking past all the ugly streetwalkers who can't get a booking unless the guy is drunk off his ass. Heading back to Nana plaza, figure I'll have to do a short time booking. Last minute I decided I just wasn't up for any more drinking or trying to pick out a gogo girl, but I needed to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] before the walk back to the hotel. So jumped back into the second bar, did the full circuit of the bar after the much needed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and up runs my girl. Gone are the guys from before and she's giving me some very good french kisses and that V I downed before Thermae is working its majic. She can feel it and don't know why I agreed to a game of pool but I did, ever try playing pool with a raging hard on? Just doesn't help your shots go down.

She wanted to keep playing but I had had enough, time to barfine and head back to the hotel. 4 romps in 12 hours for 2000 baht was pretty amazing in my mind. A shitty day followed by an entire night and morning of fucking a hottie.

[QUOTE=DCups;1720791]The number of posts in this forum or any forum is irrelevant. Some guys don't have to brag about every trip they make or girl they bang. They are content with reading, learning, planning and keep their conquests / stories / photos to themselves or their confidants. Or maybe this forum is just a vicarious form of entertainment. I read the forum quite a bit (for intel) and post once in awhile mostly to joke around but sometimes to help others. I've met some ISGers and tipped beers with them but I would never assume that someone who posts a lot on here has more credibility than one who doesn't.[/QUOTE]Although there are the odd entertaining posts, that is really the exception. The forum should be just for getting information where to go to find certain sexual arrangements, and which girls can perform particularly well, in my opinion. So basically exchange of useful information. Others like to read very extended stories of encounters. That is fine, although less interesting to me.

The concept of "conquests" should not apply, as we mostly talk about paid encounters. If we had a non paid encounter, there is little use to talk about it here, as the other readers can't just go and get the same girl. I guess we can recommend places or techniques to find such girls.

Although some posters may well make up stories, there is little point to it. Over time we also get to know which posters are overly negative and which are overly positive and which ones keep asking what price was paid (so few surprises). Different posters have different styles.

Some musings on the one pop only policy.

You bang away pull out when you are about to come, relax for a while keep repeating this until time is near up then avail of your single pop. Policy would seem ill advised with this punter?

Question! 20 minutes into a paid up one pop one hour session you shoot your load. Is that it? No going back in, no further BJ HJ, simply lie there until the clock runs out.

I imagine the rationale for limited pops policy is twofold; to garner extra money for extra pops and to save the girl from continuous pounding but the first circumstance mentioned wouldn't prevent this in fact it may exacerbate her predicament.

From my own experience at BJ bars it was over after you popped while the oilies I went to had no limits. At Nataree the girl was inexperienced, so we took it slow and easy and it wasn't an issue.

Hello Friends,

I would be visiting Bangkok next month and would be staying for around 3 months. Although I have done some recce on the posts here, would appreciate some guidance on the full service massage parlours and prices. I found some here but were priced upwards of 2000 be for a 90 minute session. Are these the standard prices in BKK. I also think the bar fines are a little high considering that the girl would also take around 2-2. 5 k be for ST. Are there any easy options for contacting freelancers or contact details that can be shared and the prices. I am sorry to be asking so many questions, but don't know how it works in BKK.

I can recommend in case you are visiting Delhi. Appreciate some help. My inbox in empty.

Best Regards.