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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945526]
My question for anyone who wants to answer is this, if Ukraine loses does USA get paid back for all the weapons we sold them? As an American, do I get those tax dollars back some how?[/QUOTE]You won't get shit back as a taxpayer but companies like Blackrock etc will make a ton of money via reconstruction contracts.
The crazy down in Florida had a connection to Ukraine. I wonder if he talked shit here?
Time to stop the carnage. Ukraine and Russia should be negotiating an end to the war, now.
The following are excerpts from,
[B]Ukraines new infantry recruits freeze in face of Russian onslaught[/B]
For six gruelling days this month a small team of experienced Ukrainian soldiers managed to withstand Russia's relentless assault on their position on the eastern front.
All aged under 40 and with two years of fighting experience, the six men held their ground despite a barrage of rockets and killed over 100 Russian soldiers, said their commander in Ukraine's eastern Donetsk region.
"When they rotated out, they were trembling. They hadn't slept or rested," their commander said near the frontline south-east of Pokrovsk, a city Russia is seeking to occupy. "But those guys did their job and held the line. ".
The troops who replaced them were less successful. Of the eight soldiers rotated in, only two had combat experience. [B]All six new conscripts most over the age of 40 were killed or wounded within a week, forcing the unit to retreat.[/B].
*Ukraine's troops and their commanders are growing concerned over manpower problems, particularly the quality of new recruits and the speed at which they are injured or killed.
The Ukrainian infantry is most acutely affected: its troops are grappling with exhaustion and flagging morale, leading some to abandon their positions and allow Russia to capture more land, according to frontline commanders.
Along the front in Donetsk, four commanders, a deputy commander and nearly a dozen soldiers from four Ukrainian brigades told the Financial Times that the new conscripts lack basic combat skills, motivation and often flee their positions when they come under fire.
[B]The commanders estimated that 50 to 70 per cent of new infantry troops were killed or wounded within days of starting their first rotation.[/B]
"When the new guys get to the position, a lot of them run away at the first shell explosion," said a deputy commander in Ukraine's 72nd mechanised brigade fighting near the eastern city of Vuhledar, a key bulwark that the Russians are attempting to flank.
[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/b9396112-585a-4f7e-9628-13d500c99d93[/URL]
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945526]
My question for anyone who wants to answer is this, if Ukraine loses does USA get paid back for all the weapons we sold them? As an American, do I get those tax dollars back some how?[/QUOTE]Apparently, Ms. Zelensky spent a million dollars in New York City all in one day. So I am not sure about that. Good luck separating a woman from her shoes.
But there were reports that a bunch of Ukrainian generals and government elite showed up at the Globe Club one night and hogged all the hot women.
I do think we will get that money back. Because the one thing you can count on in life is hookers to be ethical.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2948354]Time to stop the carnage...[/QUOTE]I agree completely. It will happen when Russia withdraws behind 1992 international borders. Then both sides can enter into talks on the amount of Russian reparations for the destruction of life and property caused by their illegal war of aggression.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2948357]
But there were reports that a bunch of Ukrainian generals and government elite showed up at the Globe Club one night and hogged all the hot women.
[/QUOTE]Please provide more details about those reports, I haven't heard anything about that. I live in Zurich, go often to Globe and know several Globe regulars. I hear nothing about this, nobody in Globe said anything about this, so I believe this is total bullshit.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2948357]But there were reports that a bunch of Ukrainian generals and government elite showed up at the Globe Club one night and hogged all the hot women..[/QUOTE]You must be kidding. High level Ukrainians have access to the best pussy on the planet.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2948357]Apparently, Ms. Zelensky spent a million dollars in New York City all in one day. So I am not sure about that. Good luck separating a woman from her shoes.
But there were reports that a bunch of Ukrainian generals and government elite showed up at the Globe Club one night and hogged all the hot women.
I do think we will get that money back. Because the one thing you can count on in life is hookers to be ethical.[/QUOTE]Why would this, be a surprise to anyone they have been stealing from the beginning, only the media and far lefties would be surprised by this behavior. They are a bunch of crooks, the truth will come out some day.
Ugledar.
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[QUOTE=BloodRed;2950501]Ugledar.
Ugledar.
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Ugledar.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-significant-would-russias-capture-ukrainian-town-vuhledar-be-2024-10-01/[/URL]
Here's an article about life in Ukrainian towns about to be overrun by Russian forces.
[URL]https://kyivindependent.com/burning-horizon-as-russia-makes-gains-near-pokrovsk-civilians-remain-frozen-in-inaction/[/URL]
Estonian intelligence apparently believes Ukrainian forces will be forced to retreat from Pokrovsk by the end of the year.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2950700][URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-significant-would-russias-capture-ukrainian-town-vuhledar-be-2024-10-01/[/URL]
Here's an article about life in Ukrainian towns about to be overrun by Russian forces.
[URL]https://kyivindependent.com/burning-horizon-as-russia-makes-gains-near-pokrovsk-civilians-remain-frozen-in-inaction/[/URL]
Estonian intelligence apparently believes Ukrainian forces will be forced to retreat from Pokrovsk by the end of the year.[/QUOTE]So, you are saying Ukraine isn't winning?
What about Zelensky's "Victory Plan" LOL. Good God.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2948865]Why would this, be a surprise to anyone they have been stealing from the beginning, only the media and far lefties would be surprised by this behavior. They are a bunch of crooks, the truth will come out some day.[/QUOTE]The truth will come out when the ship will start to sink (already started) and when the west throws Zelensky under the bus. That too is coming up soon.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2948707]Please provide more details about those reports, I haven't heard anything about that. I live in Zurich, go often to Globe and know several Globe regulars. I hear nothing about this, nobody in Globe said anything about this, so I believe this is total bullshit.[/QUOTE]He read it on the Internet.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2951038]He read it on the Internet.[/QUOTE]I read on the internet that Zelensky has a victory plan.
Can you please share some info on that, Xpartan? Do you think Ukraine can win? If yes, what does that victory look like in your view?
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2951355]I read on the internet that Zelensky has a victory plan.
Can you please share some info on that, Xpartan? Do you think Ukraine can win? If yes, what does that victory look like in your view?[/QUOTE]XMan and Pres. Z. are both delusional and in complete denial.