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Instead you have done a good job, you haven't wasted your sweaty money and you weren't weak in front of those stupid b******!

First, 500 and 300 euros are absurd quotations.

Second, never talk in euros, only in dollars, better in rubles.

Third, 300 dollars for a 10-hours night is the best price for them.

Fourth, this is a crisis time, you must remember there are thousands of girls ready to do everything for you also for 50 dollars.

Fifth, for those quotations, you could find a good escort in your own country too. If you don't need any specific female requirements, you could try German FKKs or go to cheaper countries and towns.

As you have described, prostitutes in Moscow usually say "Give me money and bye bye."

I had better luck with freebies, not models but free sex, except for the dinner. I always try with twenties, twenties in Slavic countries is like fourties in Western Europe, therefore it doesn't make sense to try with girls of my age.

[QUOTE=Chercheur]Hi mongers!

I still have a few questions for you.

Went to Night-Flight, was offered 500 euros by at least 15 dev. They did not accept any bargain, so I went back home alone. Did I miss anything? The place is not even nice to have a beer as dev. Are only interested in the 500 euros.

Went to Hot-Dog, much better, a place to have a beer and talk to the dev. Was offered 300 euros. As it was late and I was not sure of what I would get, I went back home alone. Did I miss anything?

Are there other places where you can have a good time and possibly pick up a girl (for a decent price)?

Are there tochka? I was told to go on the bank of the river at Vorbevi gori in the evening, worth it?

Where or how can I meet elderly women not (or not only) for sex?

Thanks to the forum and to you mongers who already helped me a lot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chercheur]Went to Night-Flight, was offered 500 euros by at least 15 dev. They did not accept any bargain, so I went back home alone. Did I miss anything? The place is not even nice to have a beer as dev. Are only interested in the 500 euros.

Went to Hot-Dog, much better, a place to have a beer and talk to the dev. Was offered 300 euros. As it was late and I was not sure of what I would get, I went back home alone. Did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]You did the right thing Chercheur, keep your money in your pocket and walk.

Best to stay away from Night Flight and Hot Dog's, they are a complete waste of time and money. Time was when there were some hot women in there, for reasonable prices, but those days are long gone and they're not coming back.

However, if you are in Moscow for the first time, then I suppose every true believer must make the pilgrimage at least once. Then move on to something else.

Don't let the girls play the Euro/Dollar switch on you. There is a BIG difference between them: 500 Euro is approx 700 USD. I can tell you right now, you won't find any woman in either place that's worth 700 USD, even if she stay's until 06:00.

The going rate for 1 hr. of sex in Moscow is 2,500 to 3,000 rubles. This is about 75 to 100 USD at today's rates. If you are paying more than that, then you are paying the tourist premium. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand that you are paying a premium, just for being a tourist.

If you don't speak any Russian then your options will be very limited. The best value is in the salons. Places like Fantasys and Charmel have people who will actually come and get you, if you call them and you are within walking distance. For the other salons, either massage or full service, you can probably find a taxi driver who will be willing to help you find the place and get you in. This isn't rocket science, once you're in, the girls know why you're there and can take care of the rest. All you have to do is pay.

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Went for Mishel. Outcall. I like variety, but also like a sure thing. I would call her again. I hope I spent reasonably! $6000 rubles outcall, about 1.5 hours total. Her photos are definitely glamour shots, but in person she was still pretty attractive with an awesome body. Anything goes, as seen in her bio. Unrushed, and did a few of the different things in her bio.

She speaks almost no English, but we communicated just enough.

I have trouble trying to find some of the salons, and have wasted many hours looking for them, so also to save time (which also saves me money), I went for outcall.

I also tried looking for Koshka, but no luck. If anyone has specific directions to a good salon, let me know. I wound up on Danilovskaya, but could not find the building.

[QUOTE=Chercheur]Went to Night-Flight, was offered 500 euros by at least 15 dev. They did not accept any bargain, so I went back home alone. Did I miss anything? The place is not even nice to have a beer as dev. Are only interested in the 500 euros.[/QUOTE]Sounds high. Even for NF. Haven't been there for quite a while, though. Actually, I think the last time was with Bezzy, and he was being quoted 300 bucks (IIRC).

[QUOTE]Went to Hot-Dog, much better, a place to have a beer and talk to the dev. Was offered 300 euros. As it was late and I was not sure of what I would get, I went back home alone. Did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]I've never paid more than 8,000 rubles (175 euro) at HD for 1:1 (including FS, DFK, BBBJ and occassionally offered even BBFS), and that's until 6am at the very earliest. That said, I haven't been in a couple months at least, so maybe things have changed (though I doubt it). You have to consider that it's expensive for a girl to ply her trade at such places, and the costs are passed onto you, the consumer.

Hi guys,

I am back in Moscow after one year. Last time your advices were very preciuos, so now I kindly ask you some urgent info again, with urgency. The problem is that I have just arrived in the city and will stay a couple of days, I did not have the time to prepare muyself in advance.

Is there in Moscow any salon where to find nice girls and stay with them for a session without going to hotel?

Are they open in the afternoon or just in during evening? Which prices?

Last year I was at Bordo club (it was written like this, sorry french friends) in Pevchesky Pereulok, 4 and have a great session, even if a bit expensive. Is it still alive?

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Sounds high. Even for NF. Haven't been there for quite a while, though. Actually, I think the last time was with Bezzy, and he was being quoted 300 bucks (IIRC).

I've never paid more than 8,000 rubles (175 euro) at HD for 1:1 (including FS, DFK, BBBJ and occassionally offered even BBFS), and that's until 6am at the very earliest. That said, I haven't been in a couple months at least, so maybe things have changed (though I doubt it). You have to consider that it's expensive for a girl to ply her trade at such places, and the costs are passed onto you, the consumer.[/QUOTE]Was there recently and while the starting prices were ridiculous (15,000 RUR) I had no trouble getting down to 6,000 for all night, although I didn't take anybody home.

[QUOTE=Osmotico77]Hi guys,

I am back in Moscow after one year. Last time your advices were very preciuos, so now I kindly ask you some urgent info again, with urgency. The problem is that I have just arrived in the city and will stay a couple of days, I did not have the time to prepare muyself in advance.

Is there in Moscow any salon where to find nice girls and stay with them for a session without going to hotel?

Are they open in the afternoon or just in during evening? Which prices?

Last year I was at Bordo club (it was written like this, sorry french friends) in Pevchesky Pereulok, 4 and have a great session, even if a bit expensive. Is it still alive?[/QUOTE]

SALON
Fantasys
Kozitskii pereylok
dom 3
+7(495) 799-46-57
Located across the street from Night flight and down Kozitsiy Pereulok about 200 meters. Call and they will meet you on the street.

Bordo is still there. Also try Aurora 911 located on Petrovka street across from the Marriott Aurora.

Good luck

HEY - what's going on out there in Mow-town?
Cripes it's like a morgue on this forum.
Somebody tell a joke already.
SKANK - are you holding out on us? I know you're there........
Yeeeesh

Taxis drivers are definitely a good help

Today I decided to test a girl of intimcity. Ru (some pictures are really beautiful, some say they offer much).

Went to a taxi driver and did ask him to call them on the phone. First one was not working today. Second one did not answer. Third one had increased her price from 2500 to 5000 an hour and was not available before midnight (BTW does anybody has any experience with intimicty or that kind of site? )

So I decide to go to a salon I found on Mamba, 2000 an hour. It was far away, off we went and talking to the taxi driver, I asked him if he knew tochkas. Of course, he knew!

We then went just outside the periferic on the road to Vladimir, and he showed me 3 tochkas. It is a little off the road, a young guy or an elderly woman ask you how much you want to pay 6500 or 7500 and call the girls accordingly. Not so many girls at a time, as little as 1 and not much that 5. It was daytime (7 or 7:30) and I do not know if there are more girls later. Not very beautiful girl either. So I asked the elderly woman to direct me to a good lay. She introduced me to Maria.

Maria went to my apartment, she is not a stunning blondika, she is 6 or 7, but I had a great time having sex with her. She stayed with me from 8 to past midnight.

I will go back to that tockhka. First I want to test other girls and second I want to pick up Maria again.

Is there anywhere where one can have short stay of 1 or 2 hours in a hotel or apartment or similiar.
Is a Sauna the only answer.
I do recall a modern short stay complex with great rooms, that was about
4 years ago, but i was to occupied to remember where it was.

Someone wrote recently that some hotels are guest friendly.
I'ld love to know which ones they are, because my experience has only been to the contrary.
Cheers Nickc

[QUOTE=Jake993]HEY - what's going on out there in Mow-town?
Cripes it's like a morgue on this forum.
Somebody tell a joke already.
SKANK - are you holding out on us? I know you're there........
Yeeeesh[/QUOTE]

We're all sitting inside our flats waiting for your arrival, Jake. You think we'd want to party without you? ;)

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]We're all sitting inside our flats waiting for your arrival, Jake. You think we'd want to party without you? ;)[/QUOTE] Don't bullshit a bullshitter!!!!! ;)
I know when someone's blowing smoke up my skirt (so to speak).

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]You did the right thing Chercheur, keep your money in your pocket and walk.

Best to stay away from Night Flight and Hot Dog's, they are a complete waste of time and money. Time was when there were some hot women in there, for reasonable prices, but those days are long gone and they're not coming back.

However, if you are in Moscow for the first time, then I suppose every true believer must make the pilgrimage at least once. Then move on to something else.

Don't let the girls play the Euro/Dollar switch on you. There is a BIG difference between them: 500 Euro is approx 700 USD. I can tell you right now, you won't find any woman in either place that's worth 700 USD, even if she stay's until 06:00.

The going rate for 1 hr. of sex in Moscow is 2,500 to 3,000 rubles. This is about 75 to 100 USD at today's rates. If you are paying more than that, then you are paying the tourist premium. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand that you are paying a premium, just for being a tourist.

If you don't speak any Russian then your options will be very limited. The best value is in the salons. Places like Fantasys and Charmel have people who will actually come and get you, if you call them and you are within walking distance. For the other salons, either massage or full service, you can probably find a taxi driver who will be willing to help you find the place and get you in. This isn't rocket science, once you're in, the girls know why you're there and can take care of the rest. All you have to do is pay.[/QUOTE]


What is the going rate for those salons - Fantasys and Charmel?
Thanks.

Oh my pork god, but are salons the only good choice in Moscow?

[QUOTE=Barmer67]What is the going rate for those salons - Fantasys and Charmel?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chercheur]

Taxi driver showed me 3 tochkas.

for 7500 the elderly woman introduced me to Maria.

she is 6 or 7, stayed with me from 8 to past midnight.

I want Maria again.

[/QUOTE]

For that kind of fun, $240 in the big city, was about the minimum price at Hot Dog if you didn't want to sit there for several hours drinking with the shitty music blasting waiting around to bargain down the price, and certainly there are some younger pro ho's that you could rate as 6's at Hot Dog, so same prices, and about same quality level, if the best you could find after 3 different tochkas was a 6.5/10 ? But you did say it was early before 8 PM, and most of the tochka stories here have been late night, so maybe quality might go up?? But then, many more stories not to get there too late as the best talent gets picked quickly. So best to get there before when, 11PM?

With the $240 price, the taxi driver gets his cut, just same as Hot Dog gets their cut too, bumping up the price, how much, plus 15 or 20%?

For the big city, does it get better, at $240, than a 6.5?

Makes me kinda sad though, if you're spoiled with 8's and 9's for about $150.