General Reports

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Has a great time with the gal but when it came time to pay, the price was inflated from the $300 on the sign below to $360. Was told it was for "happy hour" and they had a small sign with fine print on the back door that actually said that. Gal was so great that I would definitely been a multiple repeat but after that BS I never went back to that place.[/QUOTE]Blimey, they 'over-charged' you $60 (the cost of a beer in Neptune), you had a great time with the lady, but you'll never go back?!!!

You have high standards, my friend.

P4P is such a hit-or-miss that if I found a good provider then I would definitely return. Mind telling me the address of your place and I'll be there tomorrow? :)

I have one evening left in BKK, and possibly tomorrow afternoon as well.

I've been to 37D, picked up a FL, been to a Macau spa, and been ripped off in a bbar. What do you suggest I do next to get the full flavour of HK?

I'd like to try a 141 girl, but despite RTFF I still don't get the hang of it... How do you find a girl, find her address, negotiate prices, clarify expectations, etc? If someone could advise or post a link to the SOP that would be great.

I too wonder why 37 Dundas and K Pressure get so much of a write up here. Sure as a result of this forum they are more used to gweilos than some of the other places in the Jordan to Prince Edward corridor but I have never been given any problems over the years about being a gweilo at any of the many places I have been and I don't speak any Chinese.

A significant number saunas and places like 37 Dundas have at least one older mama or papa who can speak English and I occassionally see other gweilos there but for whatever reason they have not become well reported on this board.

With Yellow and Pink signs sometimes you just have to do with sign language as a lot of the young kids working at these places have grown up with mother tongue teaching and do not communicate well in English but they are generally friendly to customers.



[QUOTE=Apac Man]Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.

And you are right, according to my local friends, there are many establishments like 37 Dundas in that part of Hong Kong and again according to them, they are there to cater to local people. gweilos are supposed to go to Wan Chai to get their fix.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I too wonder why 37 Dundas and K Pressure get so much of a write up here. Sure as a result of this forum they are more used to gweilos than some of the other places in the Jordan to Prince Edward corridor but I have never been given any problems over the years about being a gweilo at any of the many places I have been and I don't speak any Chinese.
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Why don't you try to educate us then? Give us some alternatives.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Goferring]I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?[/QUOTE]

Read the south China forums. They are much closer than BKK/MNL/CLARK.

Otherwise use Airasia for BKK and Cebu Pacific Air for MNL/CLARK from HGK.

Macau seems to be expensive.IMO.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'd like to try a 141 girl, but despite RTFF I still don't get the hang of it... How do you find a girl, find her address, negotiate prices, clarify expectations, etc? If someone could advise or post a link to the SOP that would be great.[/QUOTE]There is another, separate website that lists the girls by district and gives the prices and contact information along with services. One can't post the url of said website because that is not allowed and Jackson has deleted it on many occasions (and perhaps this post will be too much as well) but it is fairly easy to figure out. You know what you are looking for and you've already said it is a 141 operation.

[quote]with yellow and pink signs sometimes you just have to do with sign language as a lot of the young kids working at these places have grown up with mother tongue teaching and do not communicate well in english but they are generally friendly to customers.[/quote]i would agree that they are generally friendly to customers. i will say (being caucasian) that i've been looked at strangely a couple of times though because i speak some mandarin and cantonese and they apparently sometimes think i'm a cop. that's where a little language ability hurts you i guess.

the most daunting aspect is actually walking into an unknown building and up those narrow steps that first time, but i've always had them open the door and let me on in. they want you in and out of site as quickly as they can.

the places are rep001tered mostly around mongkok and prince edward. in mongkok, there are many to the west of nathan road a couple streets over. there are some to the east of nathan road as well. in prince edward, they are to the west of nathan road from the mtr station and across the street from the metropole as well; to the east of nathan road is the police headquarters so probably not a great place to try.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'd like to try a 141 girl, but despite RTFF I still don't get the hang of it... How do you find a girl, find her address, negotiate prices, clarify expectations, etc? If someone could advise or post a link to the SOP that would be great.[/QUOTE]OK, it's obvious when you have done it.

So:

Look on [url]www.******.com[/url] website and you will see a whole bunch of beautiful ladies. They will look nothing like their photoshopped photos, but then you know that already. [ OK, that's s e x with 141 after it. ]

With a bit of fiddling you can find girls who work in one place, and it's perhaps worth noting the names and prices of those girls. Some can speak a very little English, and it's worth noting those too. The ratings are presumably self-awarded, so you can ignore. some have phone numbers, and I called 3 girls with supposed English, and one answered. Her English was limited though. I made an appointment (as in 'see you in 15 minutes'), but I needn't have bothered.

Go to the address, and they are easy to find. Walk up the stairwell, (and these are not big blocks of flats with hundreds of people as I had imagined). You will know if you are on the right stairwell :) so no danger of disturbing a Hong Kong family during their dinner, again as I had been concerned about.

Actually I got the wrong stairwell first, and did just that :(, so if it is not very obvious then you are in the wrong place. The girls have CCTV so they know you are coming.

I met with Eva, room D on 3rd Floor block 107. The rooms are small, and if you have a cat that you wish to swing, best leave it at home. The rooms are very small. Did I mention that already? She was a bit chubbier than her photo, but no surprise there, and more tattoos, but otherwise looked fine. Liked her long curly hair (on her head at least).

We agreed a price, $480, which was written on a piece of paper on the wall, which was for 30 minutes, NOT including shower time, so actually not bad. I'm sure they are all different, but kissing was not allowed, DATY was accepted reasonably happily, and big European dicks were tolerated with some grumbling. If only they knew what their protestations do for me, then they would stop straightaway!

She had lots of sexy outfits on the wall so I asked her to dress in one (the one she was wearing on the website actually), but actually stripped it off pretty quickly. CBJ, 69, and FS. I did actually get my allotted time, which frankly is about 25 minutes longer than I normally manage... Then finished, much to her evident relief, washed and showered.

Came to pay bill and gave her $500. Didn't want the change but she wanted more, because apparently there is an extra charge for outfits. So I gave her an extra $100 - in her dreams! I thought that $500 was a fair payment. Some grumbling but not much. A peck on the lips then on my way.

Sent her a text to say thanks, and she responded with a few unhappy emoticons, which might be because I underpaid, or because she was struggling to walk... Actually not the best way to end and I feel a bit bad about that.

So, all in all, a lot more straightforward than I had anticipated. Another thing ticked off my list.

Spoke to the Shrimp in Bangkok this evening and she was interested to hear about my experiences in Hong Kong because she has worked here. She went to Neptune's a lot. I was staggered at the cost of drinks there having bought one round of 3 drinks for $180... The girls would get a voucher for $50 with each drink (and I know this has been mentioned on this forum already). I didn't see it happen with me, but perhaps the staff remember well. Anyway, the Shrimp said that some evenings she was bought so many drinks that she didn't need to work.

I'm amazed by the variation in price of a beer between seemingly identical bars. One will charge $25 - 35 for a large Tiger, while Bar 109 charges $55 for a bottle of beer. Two of those is an expensive night out for me...

Went to 37D. I very clearly said, beautiful girl, not fat. Spoke Chinese. I rejected 2 lineups before taking a girl. But in the better light of the room when she got her clothes off, she was decidedly chunky and not that good looking. I thought about taking her back but decided against it. But when I got back down I complained. I told them I would not accept this anymore, I see Chinese guys with stunners while I get the "pork chops," and next time I will leave without taking a girl and without paying. Mamasan offered me another girl for free right then. After I just shot a load? No thanks but you can bet I will stick to my guns next time. Fuck those ***** mamasans. 37D is way off standard.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]37D is way off standard.[/QUOTE]
Close your legs, open your mind
Leave those compliments well behind
Dig a little deeper into yourself
And you may find

Come over here just sit right down
Needn’t comb your hair, needn’t pout or frown
I hear you’ve turned our young men
Into dribbling clowns

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?
37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

Make their day and go ahead
Remove your clothes lie on their bed
Just a last gasp chance or an outside bet
To the easily led

And before you do just what you do
Here one thought for you to chew
The men who run the business that you sell
They screw you too

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?
37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

You’re just another 365 night stand
But you’re so handy, you’re so handy
You cheapen and you nasty every woman in this land
But you’re so handy, you’re so handy

Your pictures hanging pretty on the squaddies walls
You’re Steven’s, Andy’s, you’re Ian’s, you’re Paul’s
Your body’s thought of fondly in the rugby mauls
But you want more

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?
He was trying to save his job
He was, he was trying to save his job.



Sorry, couldn't resist it :)

Anyone have access to a good tailor?

I need some custom shirts at 200-300HKD a pop, and perhaps another suit.

My friend found a tailor in Mong Kok and bought two suits for 1300. He hasn't picked up the suit yet so I'm not too sure about the quality.

Info is much appreciated.

Nothing scientific here, just some food for thought:

I'm sure the foreign travelers have explored Wan Chai and LKF extensively.
I'd like to recommend a place with a little bit more local flavor - Knutsford Terrace in TST. You can get there easily by getting off at the TST MTR.

It's a very small and quiet bar street, where foreign customers aren't as common as LKF or Wan Chai. I find the local girls here do not gravitate toward foreigners like they do in LKF, but are still very friendly and approachable in a traditional sense. They do look at foreigners with a certain kind of curiously, unlike the girls at LKF who've enjoyed one too many. This is the perfect place to meet local girls if you're going to be situated in Hong Kong for awhile.

For dates, or just an easy night with buddies, there is a water-pipe (we call it Hookah in the US) bar situated on the street. The atmosphere is much more enjoyable than other places I've been to on Hong Kong Island.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Anyone have access to a good tailor?[/QUOTE]While you're at it, could someone post some restaurant reviews, tell me where to get a good haircut, suggest some tourist sights, tell me how to get tickets for the opera, rate the hotels and pick some winners on the next horse race? Or shall we just keep to the topic?

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Anyone have access to a good tailor?

I need some custom shirts at 200-300HKD a pop, and perhaps another suit.

My friend found a tailor in Mong Kok and bought two suits for 1300. He hasn't picked up the suit yet so I'm not too sure about the quality.

Info is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]All you have to do to find a good tailor in Hong Kong is to walk 10 meters out from your hotel and I guarantee you that you will have many gentlemen telling you "we make shirt, we make suit, we make vest, trouser, come see my shop, have a look". Also their colleagues will offer you "copy watch, copy bag", etc., etc. It really helps if you have a camera hung around your neck while walking around. They will spot you immediately and you will have more new "best friends" than you can shake a stick at.

Now if they were only offering what most all of us here are looking for!