Rio de Janeiro Reports

Hi Johnny Walker.

Thanks for your frankness. I own a place in the nice green hills of Rio and a good part of NYC, and yes, I am well aware of the income disparity and motivations of poor women. I pay well above the rate and then some. I work out and am no loser like the tragic mostly drunk and fat, halitosis cheap charlies with nothing else to do but pump up their fragile ego with working girls in squalid fuck hutches.

I totally understand your take. But some context is needed.

All of life is a trade, it's not fair and never was, and there is always a sucker in the game. Many of the punters here are suckers too, buying illusion and fooling themselves about how undesirable they actually are, the male equivalent to lipstick on a pig. When you see girls often enough and treat them really well and with respect (as people outside of the bedroom with emotional needs and life events), things get a lot more interesting and less transactional real fast. It's called being a human. I've found a lifestyle that works for me with those I interact with, and even have a housekeeper on a payroll AND helped her out paying for specialist care. I don't need to interact with losers, and certainly not passport bro losers. There are some very cool cats I've me through this site and on my travels, men of substance with real lives, mostly sensible and cosmopolitan.

USA has enormous problems, two of the biggies being casual violence, domination, fetish for uniforms and symbols of authority, sexual repression / hypocrisy as well as worship on status, money obesity, drug and alcohol use and a shit load of ignorance that I'm sure suits those in power. The health care failure and financial exploitation by the debt industry also comes to mind. The conditions of migrant workers on USA farms, restaurants and so on living on the very fringes is not a whole lot different from working girls, and the same can be said for most USA gig workers. Exploitation comes in many flavors, look at Epstein his gang of Presidents, royalty, CEOs, politicians, movie stars. The so called elite, clearly protected and nasty predators, with some evidence many disappeared or suicided (the girls I mean, and it turns out boys too that is year to come out). No doubt Melania married Donald for charm, good looks, intellect, charm and manners. What do you call that? Compare that with selective retail hooker stings. None of that selective sexual repression threat exists in Germany, Singapore, Japan Brasil and most other civilized places, assuming the participants are over 18 and consenting, as should be the case in any situation.

Partaking of beautiful young women by fully open and consensual dealing is fine and healthy, just don't be a loser, be respectful, and don't be stingy if they are nice. It's a service business like any other, hair cutters, taxi drivers etc that adds to our life and we reciprocate with good manners, cash and well placed gratitude for a job well done.

Peace out!

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3063368]Weird question but I'll ask. Is there such thing as a guide in Rio or Sao Paolo that can set up your vacation for you. The girls, the hotels, basically outsource it all? I tried looking on google but can't find any such thing. I don't mean a resort. I would like to stay in the city but just want to pay someone to do all the work.[/QUOTE]I believe this guy Swedish gringo might provide such services.

[URL]https://youtu.be/y1KCGDvwkEQ?si=FW7vknlE6MudQg9-[/URL]

[QUOTE=RioBob;3064050]I believe this guy Swedish gringo might provide such services.

[URL]https://youtu.be/y1KCGDvwkEQ?si=FW7vknlE6MudQg9-[/URL][/QUOTE]He might not be into the mongering scene though as all his video content is about partying with locals and particularly younger non-pros.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064074]He might not be into the mongering scene though as all his video content is about partying with locals and particularly younger non-pros.[/QUOTE]I agree, but I don't think it hurts to ask.

The guy seems to promote the sexuality of Brazilian women. He has probably been asked many times.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3064176]I agree, but I don't think it hurts to ask. The guy seems to promote the sexuality of Brazilian women. He has probably been asked many times.[/QUOTE]I would not hire him unless I was confident that he was knowledgeable of the mongering scene. Just because he promotes the sexuality of women doesn't mean he knows anything about successful mongering, especially about the particular way that a potential client is interested in mongering (not all mongering is the same). Well, I wouldn't hire him anyway because I'm philosophically opposed to using guides for our hobby (does not match my personal views about it). But, you get what I mean.

[QUOTE=Combo;3060688]Thanks for the comprehensive review. I do feel like your plan of action didn't allow you to best experience our hobby in Rio. First, the termas are generally way better than the prives. It would have been nice to check out Monte Carlo / Solarium / Centaurus and gone to back to 4 x4 another day / night. There is an ebb and a flow and cast can change a lot in short time. Only see 8 girls at 4x4 happens, but seeing 30-40 also happens.

As far as prives, weekdays are way better than weekends (if they're even open). Eden spa and the other place in the same building frequently have a very nice lineup during the week.

Anyway, it's good you were able to hit the main tourists spots which many mongers don't bother with.[/QUOTE]Just wondering why you feel that I might have missed out during my trip since I did not hit the night time termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and Centaurus? I thought it's often considered that the girls at the termas these days are really no better in quality and service than the better ones at the prive lineups except that the rates at the termas are 2-3 times higher and maybe nicer rooms plus a bar. I was quite pleased with most of the girls I chose at the daytime prives but if I'm really missing out on something significant if I didn't do the night time termas, then I would consider a return to Rio.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064212]Just wondering why you feel that I might have missed out during my trip since I did not hit the night time termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and Centaurus? I thought it's often considered that the girls at the termas these days are really no better in quality and service than the better ones at the prive lineups except that the rates at the termas are 2-3 times higher and maybe nicer rooms plus a bar. I was quite pleased with most of the girls I chose at the daytime prives but if I'm really missing out on something significant if I didn't do the night time termas, then I would consider a return to Rio.[/QUOTE]It's ultimately a matter of personal taste, so no, IMHO, the overall quality is better at the termas and I would add the overall quality of the experience is better as well. Think of it as 2 bell curves representing girl quality distribution at the top 4 termas vs girl quality distribution at the top 4 prive's. The 1st thing to notice is that there is a quality overlap in both samples, BUT the average or mean in looks favors the terma girls and more attractive girls are more likely to be found in the termas. But like I said, it is a matter of personal taste and finance. If you were happy with the quality of your prive girls and the overall experience, then go for it. You have found your bliss. But if not, then you owe it to yourself to give the termas another shot and while you are at it, to check out the SP Clinicas, which are directly comparable to RJ Prive's. But IMHO, are far more fun than the Prive's. And don't forgetabout the SP Boates which are at the top of all mongering venues in Brazil. There is just no comparison between Scan, Bomboa, Gauguin, Casaro and any of the RJ Termas and I like RJ Termas. KKK.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064212]Just wondering why you feel that I might have missed out during my trip since I did not hit the night time termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and Centaurus? I thought it's often considered that the girls at the termas these days are really no better in quality and service than the better ones at the prive lineups except that the rates at the termas are 2-3 times higher and maybe nicer rooms plus a bar. I was quite pleased with most of the girls I chose at the daytime prives but if I'm really missing out on something significant if I didn't do the night time termas, then I would consider a return to Rio.[/QUOTE]You didn't miss nothing. You got what you wanted right? It's an illusion in our heads and also to justify the high prices we pay that makes us think the higher end joints and putas are better or worth it. There are gems to be had in those prives and terapias, that are more value for money. I had a girl for 180 reals at Emporio Banho, all holes inclusive next time I came, She was at Eden Spa at Copacabana asking for 250 reals and 100 extra for anal. What had changed in a couple of months? Now she's in Monte Carlo and to take her would cost 980 reals. Ridiculous.

Same also in Sao Paulo. You met a girl at a Prive for 350 reals, at Casarao for 500 reals, at Scandallo 1500 reals. Nonsense.

Yesterday a girl who used to work at 4 x 4, then last year went to work in England, sent a message that she was back in Brazil. She wanted us to meet and was asking for 600 reals for 1 HR vaginal sex and 300 reals extra for anal. I replied hell no. Her response was I didn't value her and her services. Just imagine. The cheek. Younger pussy from 390 reals all inclusive to older pussy for 900 reals.

At those high end joints, I wouldn't fuck some of those girls for free, not to talk of the insane prices being charged.

You have just discovered where most Brazilians monger. Go and enjoy yourself more.

Shakira performed at Copacabana Beach on Saturday night. It was like hell was let loose on Copa. From early morning there were barricades along the streets of Copa. The human and vehicular traffic was crazy. All the food sellers were on Rua Barata Riberio and Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. My God it was a crazy. There was a crazy amount of people at the back entrance of Hotel Copacabana Palace. Apparently Shakira was staying there.

There were also tons of Chicas and putas. Both civilians and professionals. Scored a lot of numbers. There was heavy police presence, area felt very safe.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3064193]I would not hire him unless I was confident that he was knowledgeable of the mongering scene. Just because he promotes the sexuality of women doesn't mean he knows anything about successful mongering, especially about the particular way that a potential client is interested in mongering (not all mongering is the same). Well, I wouldn't hire him anyway because I'm philosophically opposed to using guides for our hobby (does not match my personal views about it). But, you get what I mean.[/QUOTE]You're right. I don't think he's necessarily going to know prives and other options like Vila Mimosa. However, I am sure this Swedish guide knows where the termas are and is aware of the boates on the northeastern side of Copa. I think a man living in Rio would have to be oblivious to the city to not know. He also looks young enough to know the civilian scene where some members like to dip their toe. I would be concerned that he would be an expensive guide.

I have never used a guide anywhere. When the Rio sex scene was booming, the "sex" guides didn't offer much insight in my opinion. They took guys to the usual spots Help, Barbarella, Centaurus, L'Uomo etc. Many times they never left Copacabana and the immediately adjacent area.

I did get invited by a group who had hired a guy named Don to hang out with them one evening. There was some benefit for them to have a translator. A translator is not necessary, but it can smooth over some things. That is especially true if you don't want to put in anytime learning some Portuguese phrases.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;3064300]It's an illusion in our heads and also to justify the high prices we pay that makes us think the higher end joints and putas are better or worth it. There are gems to be had in those prives and terapias, that are more value for money.[/QUOTE]Your analysis is spot on.

The best gems I've found were all in privées, some in Tijuca privées and others in tiny privées in Lapa (with only 2 girls working). The problems is that some of those gems move on to other places or meet a sugar daddy that'll keep her as a mistress.

Regarding how girls charges different. In the early 2000's me and couple of my friends were having beers at VM when I saw a very beautiful mulatta arriving for work. She was astonishing and hade very large natural tits. As soon as she got off her moto-taxi I picked her up as I prefer to be the first customer. We had a great session, 25 reais /30 minutes. I told her I had seen her before and she told me she worked at Help charging 400 reais. Of course I found it strange that she did 25 reais sessions at VM. She explained that she was working as a GP just a few months and wanted to earn a maximum in just a short time. Daytime / evenings at VM she could have lots of 25 reais sessions and nighttime at Help she could have two 400 reais sessions. A very ambitious girl.

As soon as I was finished with her one of my friends sessioned with her. He was so happy afterwards telling how lovely it was sucking on those large chocolate melons. I was kind and didn't tell him that I had shot my load over her tits and she hadn't washed her tits afterwards, just wiped her tits wth a sheet. Anyway, this girl had customers all the time. As soon as she left the casa there were a new client.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064074]He might not be into the mongering scene though as all his video content is about partying with locals and particularly younger non-pros.[/QUOTE]I get your point but one of his videos he explains how he got drugged with a boa noite Cinderella and they wiped him out, says it was a couple he met in lapa but he could be lying most likely a GDP. Also he goes around the beach interviewing girls and one girl he knew her name and I know for sure she is a GDP as I've been with her a few times, she is now trying to be a DJ, I wish her luck. Doesn't prove anything but he can ask.

A lot of these passport bro you tubers are monetizing fools.

As the saying goes, if you don't know who the fool in the room is, it is probably you.

He's selling a lot that can be had for free or the price of your share of a meal or uber or RTFF. As an example, he has a 60 page guide he is selling for 30 USD, or the price of a fuck in a centro prive.

I've been updating the bubba boy / vagabubba guide mainly for my own purposes, but for friends, and it is 180 pages, and it is free for ISGers who join the local zap group after a call.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3064587]I get your point but one of his videos he explains how he got drugged with a boa noite Cinderella and they wiped him out, says it was a couple he met in lapa but he could be lying most likely a GDP. Also he goes around the beach interviewing girls and one girl he knew her name and I know for sure she is a GDP as I've been with her a few times, she is now trying to be a DJ, I wish her luck. Doesn't prove anything but he can ask.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3064849]A lot of these passport bro you tubers are monetizing fools.

As the saying goes, if you don't know who the fool in the room is, it is probably you.

He's selling a lot that can be had for free or the price of your share of a meal or uber or RTFF. As an example, he has a 60 page guide he is selling for 30 USD, or the price of a fuck in a centro prive.

I've been updating the bubba boy / vagabubba guide mainly for my own purposes, but for friends, and it is 180 pages, and it is free for ISGers who join the local zap group after a call.[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly.

As far as I am concerned, Rick Steves was the OG travel influencer. Make a bunch of travel shows for public broadcasting for no charge. Make your money selling guide books and tours for many years.

With the advent of YouTube and other video sites, it's a crowded model. Beyond their YouTube revenue, everyone of these travel influencers is hustling a guide, guided tours and sometimes relocation assistance.

Hey fellas,

I just found out that I am coming to Rio for work. I have played in Rome, Mexico, Korea, and an FKK in Germany. Really excited to come to Rio, but is there a good place to start researching my options? I have always done plenty of research and try to stay safe. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Stay safe friends.

Oasis.