Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!

Johnie,[/QUOTE]Nobody is going to be insulted if money and gifts are offered. Do not take advantage of Asian hospitality. I guarantee you the girls are not hard up for sex with a foreigner. They are hoping for a handout but too shy to mention it. It is because if their upbringing saying if you do it for money you are considered a prostitute.

Over the years I have met several girls over dating sites and had fun. Some have asked why I am offering money. I always say it is not as pay for fun but an offer as a friend. She can use it to for whatever purpose she wants to use it for. Believe me it is not just taxi fare.

Gloating over free sex in foreign countries is bad for us as a monger. We are for the most part not looking for a wife. Yes, we are taking advantage of vulnerable girls not by force but by friendship and remuneration for their efforts.

Money will always improve the life of one or many.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555956]Sorry, I didn't mean you don't speak Thai, I meant "you" in the sense of the readers here, who mostly don't speak Thai. As in, not so easy to have a relationship with a Thai lady if you don't speak Thai.[/QUOTE]Why are you coming up with 1 million excuses for why someone can not do something that you have never done? I have not always been able to speak Thai. My first time going to Pattaya was to see a chick that was a hairdresser that spoke English. After that I started dating a school teacher who now is married with 2 kids and living in the states. After that I was dating a real estate agent. All of this time I could not even say Hello, in Thai, but was visiting frequently. There is no need to speak Thai around Pattaya because most mfs that go there can speak English or they learn it fast once they get there. But you would never know that if you are scared to even speak to them.

The biggest and coolest thing that impresses me about Thai people is their willingness, fortitude, and ability to learn new languages. I was in the club one night with a Brazil shirt on and a Thai chick came up to me and started speaking Portuguese. I was shocked as shit. Turns out she was not a hooker and we started seeing each other.

Years ago when she was working at Mike's shopping some Brazilian lawyer came in there and met her. He ended up inviting her to Brazil. He kept her in an apartment. Turned out he was married, but he would not get her a ticket back home. She started learning Portuguese by watching TV and using an ENGLISH-Portuguese dictionary, not a Thai-Portuguese dictionary.

She got a job working in a bakery in Sao Paulo but eventually got busted by immigration, spent 6 months in immigration jail, and was shipped back to Thailand. But you never learn those types of stories if the only thing you are interested in saying to someone is how much and assuming you can not communicate otherwise.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2555995]Gloating over free sex in foreign countries is bad for us as a monger. We are for the most part not looking for a wife. Yes, we are taking advantage of vulnerable girls not by force but by friendship and remuneration for their efforts.

Money will always improve the life of one or many.[/QUOTE]This is an attitude that I have never understood. How is it being smug talking about meeting normal women? When I was in high school, college and the Navy I was not looking for a wife. Was I then also taking advantage of vulnerable females?

It is as if women do not like hanging out with and having relationships and sex with men and they must be compensated financially for doing so. What if the chick in the foreign country has more than you? Should she then be paying you? What if the foreign chick bought a ticket to come to your country to visit you? Do you need to give her money before she goes back home? What if you met the foreign chick on the plane going to your country and she was going to visit family, but you ended up hooking up with her? Do you need to give her money then? I have been in each of these situations and have always failed to give them money.

I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. It is 10:47 in the morning. A normal chick just left and went home. Should I have given her money? Afterall, she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. How much should I have given her? I am really fucked up concerning the etiquette of this thing.

Would you do the same with some random chick in your own country because she earns less than you? Money would improve her life as well. Where is this line drawn that it is okay to do normal male-female shit with this chick here without giving her money, but if you do it with that chick there, you should be sure to give her money or feel ashamed if you don't?

Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner. You dress for the type of party that you are attending. I am not wearing a mongering uniform to go on a date with a chick that is not a hooker.

I don't know if you're doing anything wrong, but it seems you are doing something right. . .

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016] she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016]
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Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner.
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[/QUOTE]When you get the invitation do you immediately ask if there is anything you can bring to add to the dinner; Wine? Dessert? Have you ever brought something in hand anyway even if they politely said no, it wasn't necessary? Ever insist that the next one is your treat and make good on the offer?

Or do you always show up empty handed, eat your fill and walk away thinking, "Great! Free food. Why doesn't everybody do it this way? They must be shy suckers. Next."?

I think that's the concept some if us are conveying here.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2555995] It is because if their upbringing saying if you do it for money you are considered a prostitute.

[/QUOTE]But isn't that the texbook definition of a prostitute, if a girl has sex with a man and receive payment for it, then she is a ho, no?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555956]So, if you have seen me sitting in bars, I guess that means you now think I really have been to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Can't say it was you for sure. I've walked by the LK Metro bar you mention you visit a couple of times and there was only 1 guy sitting at the bar table facing LK Metro. As you know, many bars only have a single customer so I suspect that may have been you.

I never said you weren't in Pattaya.

re. speaking Thai it's a good ice breaker but really not necessary. I never let on that I understand enough Thai to get by. Always good to hear what girls say "behind your back". Very few girls I have met in Pattaya gogo bars do not speak English. Many have less of an Asian accent than many Asian Americans I know who have lived in America for 20+ years!

[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered.[/QUOTE]

I don't agree with this at all. Not ragging on you per se but there are many guys who don't pay a TF girl just because the girl doesn't bring up the subject of cash. Logically why does a sexy 19 year old Thai girl go on TF look to bang a 40+ year old likely not so good looking guy? Is it out of the goodness of their heart? Doubtful. They either expect some some of payment in the end whether that be monetary, you buying her a gift, feeding her, providing her with a nice air conditioned room to stay in, or she sees potential in you for the long game. You should always leave it up to the girl. Some girls are actually too shy to ask.

Remember in 2015 when the price was always "up to you". Don't see that any more!

They won't be offended if you offer them money. Having said that, I had a good connection with a bartender at a bar in PP a few years ago. She was a bartender unavailable to barfine. Just for laughs I kept going to her bar and asking her to go out knowing full well the answer was going to be no. To my shock she finally said yes and we went for a very expensive Japanese teppanyaki dinner. So expensive the girl didn't even want to enter the restaurant when we arrived indicating it was too much to spend on food. All I expected was a dinner and she go back to the bar to work that evening. She ended up not working and spent the night. In the morning I had a predicament. She was not a bargirl so do I pay her or not. I pulled out $100 US and she looked at me disgusted saying she was on a date on her own time. She refused to take the money. That was fine with me because I offered.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2556182]Can't say it was you for sure. I've walked by the LK Metro bar you mention you visit a couple of times and there was only 1 guy sitting at the bar table facing LK Metro. As you know, many bars only have a single customer so I suspect that may have been you.

I never said you weren't in Pattaya.
.[/QUOTE]That would be the Cave. I never sit outside there. Have aircon inside.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016]



I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. [/QUOTE]Awesome Mr E,How is your experience in Curitiba? I never visited Brazil. It is in my bucket list. Don't know will work out or not.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!

Johnie,[/QUOTE]In my experience if I build up a good relation with a Thai girl they won't demand money. Of course they need money. Can get GFE and the relation can be extended for my convenience if pay properly.

Recently my travel experience is along with John Tron in Asian Sex Diary. He is in Vietnam now after his exploration in the covid period in Pattaya. He is giving me an excellent visual feast. It is not a promotional report. In this dry season something is better than nothing.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2556187]That would be the Cave. I never sit outside there. Have aircon inside.[/QUOTE]Interesting you say that, since all their hostesses and "others" used to sit outside from what I've seen. Maybe there is some hidden action going on behind indoors. That place just spooks me bc of its dark design, so I never bothered.

[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar! Johnie,[/QUOTE]You mean they just showed up from TF, fucked and left. Nothing with any kind of monetary value was involved, dinner, taxi, coffee? I don't even have that power. An investment or exchange had to always occur with me.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2555963]Nice catch. Will take her any day of the week and twice over the weekends hehehhehehehe.

How much did you pay ST / LT.[/QUOTE]1100 short time. I don't do long anymore. I like my alone time. Makes shitting for relaxing.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2556194]Recently my travel experience is along with John Tron in Asian Sex Diary. He is in Vietnam now after his exploration in the covid period in Pattaya. He is giving me an excellent visual feast. It is not a promotional report. In this dry season something is better than nothing.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Not sure why some people would never want to do more extensive research beforehand. Alrighty then, to each his or her own. Different strokes?

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[QUOTE=Thampi62;2556193]In my experience if I build up a good relation with a Thai girl they won't demand money. Of course they need money. Can get GFE and the relation can be extended for my convenience if pay properly.[/QUOTE]Yep, you can get a rent-a-wife in Thailand. Sometimes for the rest of your life.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2556219]Yep, you can get a rent-a-wife in Thailand. Sometimes for the rest of your life.[/QUOTE]Sorry friend I can't hold one more than a week. He he. Purely polygamous.

[QUOTE=RunMann;2556177]But isn't that the texbook definition of a prostitute, if a girl has sex with a man and receive payment for it, then she is a ho, no?[/QUOTE]All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.