Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558638]Online sex has its place no Doubt.

Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.

I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).

I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure that market has a limited audience.

Like you, I've spent a big zero in the 25+ years I've been mongering. Now, if you were to ask me how much I spent on live mongering, it's a different story.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558638]Online sex has its place no Doubt.

Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.

I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).

I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.[/QUOTE]I am spending time watching ladies in Pattaya live-streaming. As in, I am watching them live, not on the Internet. So, if I like one of them, I just buy them a drink, or enough drinks until they are naked, and we go to the room next door. That seems to be more fun than watching them online.

I can see the screen where the customers buy the ladies drinks, there are not as many orders as you might think.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2558712] So, if I like one of them, I just buy them a drink, or enough drinks until they are naked, and we go to the room next door. [/QUOTE]I read here it's next to impossible to sign up to buy them drinks!

A guy 5 feet from the girls should have no problem buying Drinkie. LOL.

Besides guys telling girls how Beautiful they are. Think all of us are Hansum boy. LOL.

The topic du jour is how much of a Rear end pain it is to buy a Drink.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558486]The Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.

Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69[/URL][/QUOTE]For many of those paying to watch these streams it's an inadequate substitute for visiting the bars and once it's possible to return you will find many of these steams closing down as income plummets and the girls start to earn money in the bars. Streaming worked for a few girls before covid and it will return to those levels.

I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.

However, based on my experiences in past few weeks, there are actually quite a few gals that live out of that in Pattaya now. Just last night had a regular (works in Soi 6 normally) stay with me overnight, just dropped her to room couple of hours ago. She was complaining she can't sleep has her roommate works online all nights (customers in Europe), and indeed she slept like a pig all night. Kind of funny. Similar case with another (non-regular) one about 10 days ago. Some in TF are declining real dates and say sorry only cam or photos.

So there really is demand for that stuff, and some providers specializing on that market segment. However I would also expect that many will get bored of that and return to bars once they open as they can not resist the fun and friends there.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558638]Online sex has its place no Doubt.

Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.

I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).

I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2558800]I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.

However, based on my experiences in past few weeks, there are actually quite a few gals that live out of that in Pattaya now. Just last night had a regular (works in Soi 6 normally) stay with me overnight, just dropped her to room couple of hours ago. She was complaining she can't sleep has her roommate works online all nights (customers in Europe), and indeed she slept like a pig all night. Kind of funny. Similar case with another (non-regular) one about 10 days ago. Some in TF are declining real dates and say sorry only cam or photos.

So there really is demand for that stuff, and some providers specializing on that market segment. However I would also expect that many will get bored of that and return to bars once they open as they can not resist the fun and friends there.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Downandup;2558787]For many of those paying to watch these streams it's an inadequate substitute for visiting the bars and once it's possible to return you will find many of these steams closing down as income plummets and the girls start to earn money in the bars. Streaming worked for a few girls before covid and it will return to those levels.[/QUOTE]And there are people who can't personally really understand our paid pussy concept, especially as free pussy is plentiful everywhere as well. If there is a better way that allows for more freedom, anybody in any walk of life will follow this lead. We are just silly to assume these girls miss and enjoy the loud same repeated music, the 10 day contracts, bossy mamasans, the cat fights or girl drama, drinking 30-50 shots a night, and fucking 2-3 random strangers a night. I know of a shit load Go Go bar girls who are not coming back. It's not that YouTube streaming or Soi 6 bars streaming that one has to worry about. It's ONLYFANS. Before COVID, few girls would put up the hassle to have to dodge the Thai laws on stuff like that. But now, they have alot of help outside the country from guys helping them set up, uploading adult content, blocking (inside) Thailand access, and transferring money back to them. Why would some of these return to the bars?

Their game is pull money and find suckers who will send them money, even for used panties. Now they have a world audience to find these guys. When you see the number of "LIKES" on a girl's ONLYFANS page, multiply that by her monthly subscription rate. That's' the minimum she gets with lots of leeway for more money when they open a video or pic. Lord forbid, they open a chat session, fall in love, and send her money on the side. This is all game, even online. Going back to the old ways after you find the fountain of youth, is like some of us getting married to somebody our own age and setting down. WTF? I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed.

Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you? Technology eventually catches up, all it takes is something big to force this change. As a change maker, COVID-19 is no joke. And before anybody says vaccines will fix everything, they better look at Thailand "immigration and tourism and open border policy" versus USA or anywhere else. Blocking India has tremendous effect and if you don't know by now, this thing we call "LIFE" is all connected. So what the price of tea in China or what they eat in a wet market, does have an effect on the rest of the world.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2558800]I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
[/QUOTE]Maybe because it seems more personalized? You can watch Lebron James play basketball on TV for free. Would you be willing to pay to watch him play if he spoke to you before the game and before he hit a shot (pun intended), he looked in the camera and said Knobrm this one is for you!?

There is some website or app where you can pay and celebrities will send you a personalized video. Weird to me because I see celebrities all the time so I am like who cares. So the online cam pics sex thing is probably weird to you because you fuck chicks all the time.

I have said before that I was with a chick in Pattaya and she showed me her paypal where guys in Pattaya where sending her money for the online cam sex pics thing. I could not wrap my head around it since they could just come over and actually fuck her for less money.

[QUOTE=BillMiami;2558476]Since all you guys have been talking about it, I decided to go on a few of the and ask if any of them wanted a date. I said I would tip them good and pay for the taxi. But, I don't think my message every got through to the girls, which of course sucks.[/QUOTE]What could work is if you already had a show girl as one of your regulars, then you'd ask her to connect you with one of the other girls. I have such a regular from one of the bars. I (over)pay her 2000 for short time (I otherwise pay 1500). So far I haven't mustered courage to ask her for connections with any of her bar roommates (there's only one of these I find attractive, could be a post-op considering her size though). To be frank I'm not hard-up for girls right now, I'm content with rotating my 4 or 5 regulars. I'm more hard-up for swimming and dining out. Life now is no different from ASQ except I have a female visitor each day. My spirits are even lower than during ASQ as I have nothing exciting any more to look forward to in TH before I fly back home to get my jabs among other things.

To add to my misery ExpressVPN has let me down for up to 3 hours in a row these last days. Unable to connect to the condo WiFi. Works fine on 4G of the same provider though. VPN support has replied but couldn't solve the problem. No VPN no PornHub.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2558800]I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.[/QUOTE]In the past I must have blown about 30k dollars on Niteflirt over the course of 10 years. I was spending much more on Niteflirt than I would calling escorts to my hotel as these were not expensive locally. Phonesex only, no cam. Had the time of my life. I was getting to all sorts of shit behind my computer screen so it was better the woman didn't even see me. All kinds of real and virtual sex have their niches.

[QUOTE=XXL;2558848]...To add to my misery ExpressVPN has let me down for up to 3 hours in a row these last days. Unable to connect to the condo WiFi. Works fine on 4G of the same provider though. VPN support has replied but couldn't solve the problem. No VPN no PornHub...[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. It sucks!

Don't Fool yourselves. The vast majority of girls are not making money live-streaming. This same majority of girls also don't make much in regular bars.

For the girl it's not the Venue that makes a difference.

It's that Attractive / desirability concept. As a rule if you are a five or less You ain't going to make money selling Sex.

Girls must make a ton of money from OnlyFans. I know a couple of strippers who have pivoted since COVID shut down the strip clubs. First they went on MFC since they saw models not as young or pretty as them earning well over 100k USD per year. Now they only go on MFC from time to time to get guys to pay for videos and photosets they sell on OnlyFans. Making a killing.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558939]Girls must make a ton of money from OnlyFans. I know a couple of strippers who have pivoted since COVID shut down the strip clubs. First they went on MFC since they saw models not as young or pretty as them earning well over 100k USD per year. Now they only go on MFC from time to time to get guys to pay for videos and photosets they sell on OnlyFans. Making a killing.[/QUOTE]While Bella Thorne managed to make more than $1 million in revenue in only 24 hours, the majority of accounts take home less than $145 per month. The average earnings is only slightly more at $180 per month. So, sadly, most performers do not make a lot of money via OnlyFans. Apr 26,2021.

Hahaha. Hahaha. Make it Rain Thai girls.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2558830]Maybe because it seems more personalized? You can watch Lebron James play basketball on TV for free. Would you be willing to pay to watch him play if he spoke to you before the game and before he hit a shot (pun intended), he looked in the camera and said Knobrm this one is for you!?

There is some website or app where you can pay and celebrities will send you a personalized video. Weird to me because I see celebrities all the time so I am like who cares. So the online cam pics sex thing is probably weird to you because you fuck chicks all the time.

I have said before that I was with a chick in Pattaya and she showed me her paypal where guys in Pattaya where sending her money for the online cam sex pics thing. I could not wrap my head around it since they could just come over and actually fuck her for less money.[/QUOTE]Well, its more than that. It's got to be real to work for me, guess I am old school. In addition to that I am picky for both the appearance of the girl being my style, as well as the girl being (or at least acting well to be.) into it to work out for me. Anything non-real just won't cut it. Ordering from TF is hit an miss to me due to that as sometimes reality is not as pics, or the girl simply is not into it, just a dead fish wanting money. Last time about a week ago had to stop action and ask her go as just would not work as she did not like what I like and was like a dead fish.

Not into sports nor celebrities either, so would not pay for such. But I kind of understand some people pay to watch for nice looking things, I myself can pay a ticket to car / hotrod / muscle car show just to look at the 'porn' of mechanical beauty. But the experience is not sexual at all, something different. But would not pay to see a video or pic a Thai girl as can see the same for free if I like, or when they come by.

But as said, to each of their own, well understand people have VERY different habits in this area and can not criticize, just wonder. Some even fuck dogs!

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558812]And there are people who can't personally really understand our paid pussy concept, especially as free pussy is plentiful everywhere as well. If there is a better way that allows for more freedom, anybody in any walk of life will follow this lead. We are just silly to assume these girls miss and enjoy the loud same repeated music, the 10 day contracts, bossy mamasans, the cat fights or girl drama, drinking 30-50 shots a night, and fucking 2-3 random strangers a night. I know of a shit load Go Go bar girls who are not coming back. It's not that YouTube streaming or Soi 6 bars streaming that one has to worry about. It's ONLYFANS. Before COVID, few girls would put up the hassle to have to dodge the Thai laws on stuff like that. But now, they have alot of help outside the country from guys helping them set up, uploading adult content, blocking (inside) Thailand access, and transferring money back to them. Why would some of these return to the bars?

Their game is pull money and find suckers who will send them money, even for used panties. Now they have a world audience to find these guys. When you see the number of "LIKES" on a girl's ONLYFANS page, multiply that by her monthly subscription rate. That's' the minimum she gets with lots of leeway for more money when they open a video or pic. Lord forbid, they open a chat session, fall in love, and send her money on the side. This is all game, even online. Going back to the old ways after you find the fountain of youth, is like some of us getting married to somebody our own age and setting down. WTF? I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed.

Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you? Technology eventually catches up, all it takes is something big to force this change. As a change maker, COVID-19 is no joke. And before anybody says vaccines will fix everything, they better look at Thailand "immigration and tourism and open border policy" versus USA or anywhere else. Blocking India has tremendous effect and if you don't know by now, this thing we call "LIFE" is all connected. So what the price of tea in China or what they eat in a wet market, does have an effect on the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]As said in some other post, IF there is a market demand for paid online sex, for sure that market will get served because it can be monetized as volume business. Seems onlyfans has taken enabler role in part of that market now, and covid has given a good kick for that industry.

Even the personalized demand gets served well because there are always girls who not really into the physical game with old dirty farangs and other weirdos. Just can play the act from comfort of their room as long as someone (not me.) pays for it.

But but. Still many girls who absolutely do not want to put anything online, or even to take the risk for it (looking around the room and asking whether you have cams.). Also, many girls who actually are into the real stuff, and many (sure not all) of them quietly looking for BF (or sponsor) as a side task, so not too worried that supply would dry out during my lifetime.

About the paid pussy concept, sure not everyone understand it, and many of those who actually do, won't publicly admit it for their reasons (religion, societal norms, etc). It is just that odds of hooking a different decent looking gal about half your age for few times a week is a bit tough in most parts of the world for free and / or without strings attached. Then whether you like such activity is an other matter, but if you do, paying a bit is the least of the concerns. Anyway in most cases cheaper overall than paying for the less attractive nagging one at home.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558812]Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you?[/QUOTE]That there is an alternate universe out there where covid did not hit, and there have been more customers and people going to the Pattaya in that universe in these past 14 months. How do we get to that universe because it's a lot better than this one where travel has been locked down in the last 14 months for the most part.