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[QUOTE=CoconutCream;1742400]Kasalomg shows up but the other keeps being obscured by the forum under that code900.

Edit : ah, I've found the way to see the word which was blocked.[/QUOTE]Unbelievable! So the credit card internet censors have outlawed any mention of Vladimir Nabokov's classic novel "Lolitaaaa" which was subsequently adapted into an amazing film by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick staring James Mason, Peter Sellers and Shelly Winters! It is one of the 100 best American films of all time. So much for free speech on the internet. This is Brave New World and it S.U.C.K.S! And btw, just because I was able to easily get around the censorship in this post does not mitigate the offence to our freedoms. I expect the censorship algorithms will improve over time.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1742254]2500b is standard for ST - they have even printed and laminated it on a card to show the tourists. 300 BF seems a little unlikely, can't be less than 600.[/QUOTE]This conversation is inane. Of course 300 is completely unrelated to a barfine. Discussion not needed.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1742424]Unbelievable! So the credit card internet censors have outlawed any mention of Vladimir Nabokov's classic novel "Lolitaaaa" which was subsequently adapted into an amazing film by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick staring James Mason, Peter Sellers and Shelly Winters! It is one of the 100 best American films of all time. So much for free speech on the internet. This is Brave New World and it S.U.C.K.S! And btw, just because I was able to easily get around the censorship in this post does not mitigate the offence to our freedoms. I expect the censors algorithms will improve over time.[/QUOTE]I recently had the same problem tried to put in the name of girl LOL-ita. Its obsurd to make this a code word.

I guess the problem relates to the age of the girl in the story. How can the ISG even exist in an american led prudish world. Some call the US their sex prison.

In Thailand comes the clamp down on girls. They don't want us to fuck our favourite girls that are not Thai nationals.

Fortunately (for her), one girl we know has a special sponsor and may not have to work any more.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1742424]Unbelievable! So the credit card internet censors have outlawed any mention of Vladimir Nabokov's classic novel "Lolitaaaa" which was subsequently adapted into an amazing film by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick staring James Mason, Peter Sellers and Shelly Winters! It is one of the 100 best American films of all time. So much for free speech on the internet. This is Brave New World and it S.U.C.K.S! And btw, just because I was able to easily get around the censorship in this post does not mitigate the offence to our freedoms. I expect the censorship algorithms will improve over time.[/QUOTE]This is a living for the site operators (I would imagine still Jackson). If you don't like the rules they have to live by to make a living then leave. Better yet, in your utopian world why don't you become their competitor and do it better.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1742451]I recently had the same problem tried to put in the name of girl LOL-ita. Its obsurd to make this a code word. I guess the problem relates to the age of the girl in the story. How can the ISG even exist in an american led prudish world. Some call the US their sex prison.[/QUOTE]I think that is where this whole censorship movement wants to go. The feminist left ultimately want to close down all sites like this one. So much for free speech and a free internet.

Internationally, the ISG is already blocked on many ISP networks in Thailand. As a result I use a VPN service with servers in North America to access this and other punter sites. With reliable VPN service the ISG IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE anywhere there is an internet connection. But what happens when the feminist totalitarians clamp down on Western ISP's? Heterosexual punting sites like ISG will no longer be up and running. Period! And we go back to the dark ages. 555. Life / travel before the internet.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1742451]In Thailand comes the clamp down on girls. They don't want us to fuck our favorite girls that are not Thai nationals.

Fortunately (for her), one girl we know has a special sponsor and may not have to work any more.[/QUOTE]I am hoping she will still be in BKK one way or another when I return. Maybe the Thai authorities will lighten up and allow foreign nationals to work in bars again. If not I have already floated the possibility to her of us taking a short holiday trip somewhere in CamboLand. I like Cambodia. I know a couple of other real nice Phnom Penh girls I want to see again as well, so taking a side trip to Cambo will be a worthwhile diversion.

[QUOTE=RalphKramden;1742452]This is a living for the site operators (I would imagine still Jackson). If you don't like the rules they have to live by to make a living then leave. Better yet, in your Utopian world why don't you become their competitor and do it better.[/QUOTE]Happy 4th of July, Ralph.

My OP was not a criticism of Jackson or the ISG. As you point out, they have to live with certain rules imposed from above by the powers that be (In this case the credit card companies, notably MC) in order to remain viable and on line. The question is: who is leaning on the credit card companies to make them impose such freedom of speech restrictions on their customers? And my point was about this ominous turn of events taking place all over the internet, in social media, college campuses, and work places. Censorship and political correctness can not coexist with freedom of speech. Next thing you know, Huckleberry Finn, Sons and Lovers, and Ovids "Metamorphoses" will be removed from the internet and library bookshelves because they will be deemed offensive to special status interest groups. The "Metamorphoses" example is very pertinent. Look it up. These are all signs that we are slipping into a new dark age where there will be no free speech. I am not sure how to fight this encroachment of our freedoms, but just going along with it is surely not the right answer. First, we need to all become aware of the problem and then fight back!

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1742254]2500b is standard for ST - they have even printed and laminated it on a card to show the tourists. 300 BF seems a little unlikely, can't be less than 600.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is their standard request. Not necessarily the "take it or leave it" ultimate price.

Can even be engraved on stone, but does not mean all have to pay that.

Surely those smart asses think that having it printed on laminated menu makes it official and as "standard".

Surely works for newbies and for those hordes of tourists used to pay 4-5 time that when back home.

That is also how some scams work.

On the other hand for 10 forum members entering the bar and refusing those prices, there will be 100 happy to pay them. As cheaper than home for much better girls.

Lost battle, somehow, other than standing still and laugh at the laminated card.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1742489]I think that is where this whole censorship movement wants to go. The feminist left ultimately want to close down all sites like this one. So much for free speech and a free internet.

Internationally, the ISG is already blocked on many ISP networks in Thailand. As a result I use a VPN service with servers in North America to access this and other punter sites. With reliable VPN service the ISG IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE anywhere there is an internet connection. But what happens when the feminist totalitarians clamp down on Western ISP's? Heterosexual punting sites like ISG will no longer be up and running. Period! And we go back to the dark ages. 555. Life / travel before the internet.

I am hoping she will still be in BKK one way or another when I return. Maybe the Thai authorities will lighten up and allow foreign nationals to work in bars again. If not I have already floated the possibility to her of us taking a short holiday trip somewhere in CamboLand. I like Cambodia. I know a couple of other real nice Phnom Penh girls I want to see again as well, so taking a side trip to Cambo will be a worthwhile diversion.

Happy 4th of July, Ralph.

My OP was not a criticism of Jackson or the ISG. As you point out, they have to live with certain rules imposed from above by the powers that be (In this case the credit card companies, notably MC) in order to remain viable and on line. The question is: who is leaning on the credit card companies to make them impose such freedom of speech restrictions on their customers? And my point was about this ominous turn of events taking place all over the internet, in social media, college campuses, and work places. Censorship and political correctness can not coexist with freedom of speech. Next thing you know, Huckleberry Finn, Sons and Lovers, and Ovids "Metamorphoses" will be removed from the internet and library bookshelves because they will be deemed offensive to special status interest groups. The "Metamorphoses" example is very pertinent. Look it up. These are all signs that we are slipping into a new dark age where there will be no free speech. I am not sure how to fight this encroachment of our freedoms, but just going along with it is surely not the right answer. First, we need to all become aware of the problem and then fight back![/QUOTE]Thank you for clarifying Natty. I misunderstood your comment causing me to post the wrong reply. I agree 100% and apologize. Happy 4th to you too!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1742489]I think that is where this whole censorship movement wants to go. The feminist left ultimately want to close down all sites like this one. So much for free speech and a free internet.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you are getting your information from but from where I'm sitting the religious right is much more inclined to advocate the sort of censorship you are referring to. Sure, many feminists on the left do not like sites like this one, but I'm not so sure a substantial number of them advocate censorship in the way you suggest. Shaming maybe but not censorship.

One of the countries that blocks this site is Indonesia. I don't even think there is a feminist left of any consequence in that Muslim country. Fundamentalist Muslim men yes, feminist left no.

But I'm not so wedded to these views. If you have something tangible to show us about leftist feminist groups trying to shut down sites such as this one, I'll likely modify my views on this.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1742703]I'm not sure where you are getting your information from but from where I'm sitting the religious right is much more inclined to advocate the sort of censorship you are referring to. Sure, many feminists on the left do not like sites like this one, but I'm not so sure a substantial number of them advocate censorship in the way you suggest. Shaming maybe but not censorship.

One of the countries that blocks this site is Indonesia. I don't even think there is a feminist left of any consequence in that Muslim country. Fundamentalist Muslim men yes, feminist left no.

But I'm not so wedded to these views. If you have something tangible to show us about leftist feminist groups trying to shut down sites such as this one, I'll likely modify my views on this.[/QUOTE]I think that our hobby is actually under siege from both left and right:

On the left Western women and their feminists vanguard, want to keep us under control by instituting the tyranny of rigid Western-style monogamy, which gives the women tremendous power over men. How many of our brothers have been pussy whipped by some mediocre Western woman and her mediocre snatch?

On the right it are the moralizing and repressed religious nuts and the capitalist corporations. The latter like to whet our appetites through sex in the media (after all, sex sells)! But do not want us to gratify our healthy urges as frustrated and horny guys make the best consumers and workers (the message being you'll get all the pussy you want if you just work hard enough to buy that new car / house / etc.). But we all know this is just a lie.

P4 P liberates us from the shackles that both forces are trying to impose on us!

Horny mongers of the world unite. We have nothing to lose but your chains!

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1742883]I think that our hobby is actually under siege from both left and right:

On the left Western women and their feminists vanguard, want to keep us under control by instituting the tyranny of rigid Western-style monogamy, which gives the women tremendous power over men. How many of our brothers have been pussy whipped by some mediocre Western woman and her mediocre snatch?

On the right it are the moralizing and repressed religious nuts and the capitalist corporations. The latter like to whet our appetites through sex in the media (after all, sex sells)! But do not want us to gratify our healthy urges as frustrated and horny guys make the best consumers and workers (the message being you'll get all the pussy you want if you just work hard enough to buy that new car / house / etc.). But we all know this is just a lie.

P4 P liberates us from the shackles that both forces are trying to impose on us!

Horny mongers of the world unite. We have nothing to lose but your chains!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]I have another theory. America is built on aggression and violence. Europeans conquered many countries, one of which led to the birth of the United States of America. America has continued that tradition (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and many others before those). Sexually satisfied people tend to be peaceful and contented. In order to maintain an aggressive populace the people must either be sexually frustrated or sexually deviant. The most aggressive countries in the world today are those in which the majority of the people are either sexually deprived or perverted. The view at the top is that a sexually contented people cannot win World War 3.

Hey mates,

Visiting HHin this week for work and will have still some free time. Looking for some tips where to go for FL pickup and some nice hangouts at night in the company of Thai beauty. Will either stay in Intercon or Hilton. Appreciate your help.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Turgid;1742904]I have another theory. America is built on aggression and violence. Europeans conquered many countries, one of which led to the birth of the United States of America. America has continued that tradition (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and many others before those). Sexually satisfied people tend to be peaceful and contented. In order to maintain an aggressive populace the people must either be sexually frustrated or sexually deviant. The most aggressive countries in the world today are those in which the majority of the people are either sexually deprived or perverted. The view at the top is that a sexually contented people cannot win World War 3.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I guess I could add this to the right side of my equation too.

I guess you analysis is more in the lines of Feud or Wilhelm Reich, while mine is kind of a hybrid Marxist/Weberian approach. 555.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1742883]I think that our hobby is actually under siege from both left and right: Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1742904]I have another theory. America is built on aggression and violence. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1742914]Interesting. I guess I could add this to the right side of my equation too.[/QUOTE]Or perhaps it is much simpler. The feminists on the left are either lesbians or ugly frustrated heterosexual women. Each hates normal sexually active men for different reasons. Male closeted homosexuals and p e d o p h i l e s are heavily represented among the clergy (Roman Catholic and Protestant Fundamentalists). They resent men who engage in normal sexual behavior. ;)

P.S. The sensor is not very bright and easy to trick. 555

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1742883]I think that our hobby is actually under siege from both left and right:

On the left Western women and their feminists vanguard, want to keep us under control by instituting the tyranny of rigid Western-style monogamy, which gives the women tremendous power over men. How many of our brothers have been pussy whipped by some mediocre Western woman and her mediocre snatch?

On the right it are the moralizing and repressed religious nuts and the capitalist corporations. The latter like to whet our appetites through sex in the media (after all, sex sells)! But do not want us to gratify our healthy urges as frustrated and horny guys make the best consumers and workers (the message being you'll get all the pussy you want if you just work hard enough to buy that new car / house / etc.). But we all know this is just a lie.

P4 P liberates us from the shackles that both forces are trying to impose on us!

Horny mongers of the world unite. We have nothing to lose but your chains!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Actually monogamy is a male construct. Came about when we started practicing agriculture, which as Jared Diamond says, was an invention the human race has been trying to recover from ever since. Before ag, private property was pretty much non-existent. After ag, men asserted themselves and sought to make women "property" the same as their "land. " Its been a downhill road ever since with men seeking to "own" women and then in turn women seeking to "own" men.

I would encourage all of you to read "Sex at Dawn" by Christopher Ryan. A real eye opener and a great exploration of what our sex lives might be like if not for the male dominated idea of ownership. Take the Mosou tribe from China. Men are not allowed to own property and the women are very promiscuous. Men have it made having to do nothing but a bit of fishing, screwing (with multiple partners), and hanging out with the boys. Quite a nice life. Western feminists are simply a construct of a male dominated social system that has been around for several thousand years. Left to their own devices they will have far more partners than we will. Just look at the record for orgasms in an hour. For the man it is 17 but for the woman it is in excess of 100. She is built to be with many many men. The only thing holding her back is well, us.

Personally I love promiscuous females. They are wonderful.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1742959]

Personally I love promiscuous females. They are wonderful.[/QUOTE]As do I. I think they are wonderful. And worthy of our appreciation and respect.

But they are a rarity. Women bear children and thus have a biological drive to nest and hold on to one man who can protect and provide. Hence women can go much longer without having sex than men can. Men are wired to be promiscuous and spread their seed as far and wide as they can.

This is all the result of natural selection. These traits have been passed on because they've passed the survival test. They live on in our DNA, even though we live in a much kinder and gentler world and can get by fine without following these practices. They may change but it will take ages for the biological underpinnings to transform themselves. Or, given the fact that we are sentiment beings we can realize this folly and modify our behavior to maximize our health and happiness. Kind of like resisting the urge to eat fatty foods or limiting their intake.

Unfortunately, our brains can also manufacture myths and beliefs to reinforce our natural disposition. Even when it produces unhappiness and frustration.