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[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1742979]As do I. I think they are wonderful. And worthy of our appreciation and respect.
But they are a rarity. Women bear children and thus have a biological drive to nest and hold on to one man who can protect and provide. Hence women can go much longer without having sex than men can. Men are wired to be promiscuous and spread their seed as far and wide as they can.
This is all the result of natural selection. These traits have been passed on because they've passed the survival test. They live on in our DNA, even though we live in a much kinder and gentler world and can get by fine without following these practices. They may change but it will take ages for the biological underpinnings to transform themselves. Or, given the fact that we are sentiment beings we can realize this folly and modify our behavior to maximize our health and happiness. Kind of like resisting the urge to eat fatty foods or limiting their intake.
Unfortunately, our brains can also manufacture myths and beliefs to reinforce our natural disposition. Even when it produces unhappiness and frustration.[/QUOTE]Actually before the advent of agriculture this was not the case and we see that in the few matrilineal societies left. Why? Because women stayed in the houses of their mothers and the children were raised by that particular family group, so a single protective male was not necessary. In fact, it was a hindrance. Not until ag and the idea of private property did single females need to rely on men for "safety and security. ".
Have a read through Sex at Dawn. I promise you it will be an eye opener. Many of the pre-conceptions that we have and that we have been taught are false. Women are really as much if not more promiscuous than men when freed from their social constraints, which is all our agricultural based society has pinned on them.
Another excellent book is called What Women Want- Adventures in the Science of Female Desire by Daniel Bergner. Bergner interviews contemporary sex researchers and much of what they are finding challenges widely held beliefs about women's sexuality. In reality women are really far lustier than men. One experiment measures arousal to different stimuli. While men are prone only to get excited by images that reflect their own personal sexual slant (straight dudes like seeing straight sex or women with women), they found that women get aroused by viewing images of any type of sexual activity, even animals mating. Given the opportunity for discretion women will stray far and wide. And truth be told they are far better at being discreet about it than most men.
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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1742265]Action, I do recall seeing those printed cards in my past visits which detail out the menu on offer. But this time I think I took things for granted as it was off season. This is what I was quoted. 2 LD + BF + ST = 400 + 1000 + 3500 = 4900.
That's why I left the place empty handed, else I still believe Baccara has the best girls on Cowboy. I am starting the believe the Thai logic of off season pricing.[/QUOTE]Those prices are non-sense, creating a package that hides higher costs. Responds only to the "rip off the customer as he doesn't come back" logic. BF at 1000 for a ST is over the top.
Fact is that every hour there are a few tens (hundreds?) of possible customers des embarking from planes and happy to pay for 4900 as "it is so cheap to have a girl here compared to home".
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1742904]I have another theory. America is built on aggression and violence. Europeans conquered many countries, one of which led to the birth of the United States of America. America has continued that tradition (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and many others before those). [/QUOTE]Human history is far bigger than this relatively tiny era of European expansion and the creation of the United States and subsequent global antics. Histiry reveals one vast expanse of aggression, raids, exploitation, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and slave trading, often in (and perfected by) parts of the world which are now backwaters and rely on widespread historical myopia to have us believe that modern Western culture west is the architect of these kinds of activities.
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Bangkok Go Go Bars
Last week was Bang-kok week for me. As always it was a pleasure. I discovered Bangkok and Thailand about 3 years back and since them, I have never missed an opportunity to visit the place as and when the opportunity comes.
I have been following the advise of the members on this group and exploring options that come by. For some reason, I have been more hooked on Nana area instead of Soi CowBoy and it is here that I have seen the downside of the Go Go Bars. Not only the girls have become more expensive, they have become very arrogant. While grudgingly I can expect the prices going up, I find the arrogance difficult to deal with.
I always found girls at Voodo (Ground floor, left side) very pretty. It is now closed down. Last time I found this place "Sparky" on left hand side, first floor, in the corner. The girls are pretty, but attitude is extremely bad. Last time, I thought it might be one off experience, so I decided to visit them again last week. I am sorry to report that it was repeat of last time. You buy lady drink, without even getting familiar, the girls expect you to go boom-boom. If you take your time, you are suggested to go away. Again, pressing for a deal is understandable to some extent, but telling a customer to go away is too bad. This did not happen to me. It happened to a few customers, after which I decided to leave the place.
After my misadventures at the Nana Go gos, I for the first time turned my attention to freelancers who line up the street. I must tell you, on careful examination, you will find some stunners. The prices are low, girls more polite and pliant and above all no expenses of lady drinks, your own drinks at bloated prices. I found Alisa who was every bit good as any girl you will find in a go go. Young, needy and to my surprise still lactating. Excellent body and attitude at 1100 Baht.
So guys. My experience, hit the road instead of bars and have an excellent lay of the land.
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[QUOTE=BionicMan;1743107]Those prices are non-sense, creating a package that hides higher costs. Responds only to the "rip off the customer as he doesn't come back" logic. BF at 1000 for a ST is over the top.
Fact is that every hour there are a few tens (hundreds?) of possible customers des embarking from planes and happy to pay for 4900 as "it is so cheap to have a girl here compared to home".[/QUOTE]Surely these 100's of dis-embarkers are not making their way to Nana Plaza. R4 at 9 pm on a non weekend day is dreadful. It fills up but before was filled up at 9 pm.
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[QUOTE=CoconutCream;1743169]Human history is far bigger than this relatively tiny era of European expansion and the creation of the United States and subsequent global antics. Histiry reveals one vast expanse of aggression, raids, exploitation, and slave trading, often in (and perfected by) parts of the world which are now backwaters and rely on widespread historical myopia to have us believe that modern Western culture west is the architect of these kinds of activities.[/QUOTE]Well stated and spot on. The demonization of the West is actually quite comical.
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Interesting comments on history, oppression, censorship and all of that. But it is also possible that the reason there are Codes for words like the title character of Nabokov's most famous novel here is simply that a business decision has been made due to potential objections by the company handling the billing process on this site. In other words, nothing more than an alignment with a corporate policy. It is a tricky proposition to get companies like PayPal (note, not an option offered here) to do business with sites like this one where subjects of an adult nature are explored. While there are plenty of examples of relatively explicit and graphic words, phrases and terminology being bandied about here, it could be that the Nabokov name is simply a bridge too far, a well-known buzz word for a particularly incendiary topic that could bring the whole pay structure on this site down in a blaze of glory. And then it would time for the administrators to go scrambling for an alternative.
I fully admit that I have not done specific research on the issue here to speak with anything close to authority about it. But it would be an understandable and prudent business decision by all parties, including many of us posters to use a Code for that name, and not exactly the fruition of some feminist, religious right or PC backlash. If it were suspected that the typical subject matter related to that Nabokov name were being explored, recommended or in any tangential way being supported or endorsed here, not only would the billing company bail out in a nanosecond, but the owners of the site would be in a world of hurt and I, for one, would deeply regret having registered my name, email address and billing information into its system. Just saying.
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[QUOTE=BionicMan;1743107]Those prices are non-sense, creating a package that hides higher costs. Responds only to the "rip off the customer as he doesn't come back" logic. BF at 1000 for a ST is over the top.
Fact is that every hour there are a few tens (hundreds?) of possible customers des embarking from planes and happy to pay for 4900 as "it is so cheap to have a girl here compared to home".[/QUOTE]You said it Bionic. Baccara looks like the lobby of the Japanese Embassy if you take the girls & glitz away. 4900 is chicken feed for those suited Japs. No wonder they get to enter as they wish while commoners like me have to buy a drink at the bar outside before going in.
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[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1742703]I'm not sure where you are getting your information from but from where I'm sitting the religious right is much more inclined to advocate the sort of censorship you are referring to. Sure, many feminists on the left do not like sites like this one, but I'm not so sure a substantial number of them advocate censorship in the way you suggest. Shaming maybe but not censorship.
One of the countries that blocks this site is Indonesia. I don't even think there is a feminist left of any consequence in that Muslim country. Fundamentalist Muslim men yes, feminist left no.
But I'm not so wedded to these views. If you have something tangible to show us about leftist feminist groups trying to shut down sites such as this one, I'll likely modify my views on this.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.feministissues.com/[/URL]
I take it you've never been to a Womens' Studies department of a major university? While maybe the average radical feminist may not be after this particular site, as we all know they are death on prostitution in general because it victimizes and oppresses women. Nothing that does such a grave injustice to women can be allowed to stand. Maybe you've never read of the ridiculous penalties imposed in many states regarding solicitation of a hooker? How about your name in the paper, arrest, immediate confiscation of your car (if you were using it in the commission of this horrible and lurid crime), etc. , etc. Who do you think convinced the legislatures to pass such nonsense in the first place? Extremely vocal feminists.
Censorship? The left owns that. Maybe you should have a conversation with a few radical lesbians, then you'd understand. Any opinion that diverges from their Stalinist orthodoxy must be silenced. Whether it's opinions on prostitution, gay marriage, school vouchers or the Confederate flag.
The west has been engaging in a war on men, boys, and masculinity for a number of years now. It's the radical lesbian feminists at the head of that assault.
But they aren't the only ones, from a historical standpoint. Soviet Russia, the workers' paradise, was hardly a bastion of sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll until it collapsed. In fact, have you been to any hard-line socialist country that WAS sexually liberal? If so, I'd like to know about it.
Now I know people on the "religious right. " They don't like the idea of prostitution, but none of them wants the government to ban web sites because they know where that ultimately leads. They don't like gay marriage, but they don't hate gay people. They don't participate in hateful "personal destruction" campaigns against people with whom they do not agree. Maybe the ones I know aren't representative of the whole, but I think they may be. I note that their attitudes tend to lean a lot toward "live and let live," and they are nowhere near as intolerant of people as the leftists feminists I have to deal with on a weekly basis.
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[QUOTE=Phordphan;1743528][URL]http://www.feministissues.com/[/URL]
I take it you've never been to a Womens' Studies department of a major university? [/QUOTE]Whenever someone starts an argument with some kind of ill-informed nonsense like this, they have already lost. I'm not going to divulge personal information on this website, including my job history, but will say if I did it would make your statement look rather foolish.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1743220]Interesting comments on history, oppression, censorship and all of that. But it is also possible that the reason there are Codes for words like the title character of Nabokov's most famous novel here is simply that a business decision has been made due to potential objections by the company handling the billing process on this site. In other words, nothing more than an alignment with a corporate policy. It is a tricky proposition to get companies like PayPal (note, not an option offered here) to do business with sites like this one where subjects of an adult nature are explored. While there are plenty of examples of relatively explicit and graphic words, phrases and terminology being bandied about here, it could be that the Nabokov name is simply a bridge too far, a well-known buzz word for a particularly incendiary topic that could bring the whole pay structure on this site down in a blaze of glory. And then it would time for the administrators to go scrambling for an alternative.
I fully admit that I have not done specific research on the issue here to speak with anything close to authority about it. But it would be an understandable and prudent business decision by all parties, including many of us posters to use a Code for that name, and not exactly the fruition of some feminist, religious right or PC backlash. If it were suspected that the typical subject matter related to that Nabokov name were being explored, recommended or in any tangential way being supported or endorsed here, not only would the billing company bail out in a nanosecond, but the owners of the site would be in a world of hurt and I, for one, would deeply regret having registered my name, email address and billing information into its system. Just saying.[/QUOTE]I think you're right. The credit card companies simply don't want to have anything to do with sites that (might) have a p e d o p h i l e nature.
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[QUOTE=GerryGa;1739100]Arriving in 10 days. Some questions if I may, is Bit Style still shuttered. If so cannot understand why, it was hands down the best BJ shop in town. I've developed an intense interest in the so called internal orgasm. Has anybody had experience of this service and where one might find it? Somebody posted that staff at Analisa were skilled in the art of prostrate massage which while not the same would be closer than the standard rub and tug. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Been back a week staying as always in the excellent Marriott on 57. Following a member's suggestion I had assembled a dossier of desirable companions from web sites. Sadly it's hasn't worked. Aware of the enhancements Photoshop provides my measured expectations have been mostly out of sync with reality which can be embarrassing when you have booked ahead. My advice for what it's worth would be forget websites use ISG and other forums to select venues, put in the leg work and check the talent on arrival. Heretofore I felt uncomfortable having staff line up but I've learned to relax take my time smile and use eye contact to make a selection and most important I'm prepared to leave if it's not happening. Now that Bit Style has closed my early afternoon get in the mood massage with the delightful the at Tandy on 53 is my pleasurable constant. On a different theme I'm still seeking the illusive internal orgasm. Analisa was a waste of time, an inexperienced digit in your asshole does not a prostrate massage make. In pursuit would appreciate any advice on this place.
[URL]http://www.pattayaprostatemassage.com/about-us.html[/URL]
Thanks Gerry.
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COF and CIM
Hi everyone,
Its my first post so I am sorry if it's not per standards.
I am visiting Bangkok next week and I wonder if and where its possible to find service with cum-in-mouth & (especially) cum-on-face.
Appreciate if one of you can advice in case you had the chance lately to find girls that willing to have these services.
Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=Tommyh80;1741583]After several hundred of visits to BJ bars in Bangkok during the last 6 last years, it was finally my turn to get an STD. Gonorrhea. Schocked, and my doctor was also when I told him that the only sex I had during my trip to Asia was BBBJ. But I didn't tell him it was from a BJ Bar, though:-the.
Two weeks and so much pain and all the green stuff coming out from my dick, I hope I have learned my lesson, but honestly I doubt it.[/QUOTE]From own personal experiences, if that was your first BJ contracted STD over the past 6 years. IMHO you can count yourself very lucky!
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[QUOTE=WithoutPrefix;1743680]Hi everyone,
Its my first post so I am sorry if it's not per standards.
I am visiting Bangkok next week and I wonder if and where its possible to find service with cum-in-mouth & (especially) cum-on-face.
Appreciate if one of you can advice in case you had the chance lately to find girls that willing to have these services.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]CIM is easy, you can find in almost all places, BJ bars of course, massage shop, ecc. And with many freelancers. COF is more difficult because they don't like that your sperm ruin their make up. LOL.