Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Turgid;1747260]If you have spent some time in the Caribbean or in some Latin American countries (I think Mexico and Brazil are exceptions) you will need to present a yellow fever card to medical personnel at the airport. If a person who requires such a card presents himself in the airport sans card he will be required to be quarantined for a few days.[/QUOTE]If you fly to BKK from a yellow fever zone and you don't have a vaccination card, you can get a shot (for a fee) before you go through immigration. They will issue you a card, and the shot is good for 10 years. Happened to me once when I was flying from Kenya or South Africa to BKK.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1748256]He is asking about letterD. Just translating due to the forum automated post-mashing software stuffing the post.[/QUOTE]I always wondered why guys don't either preview their post or, more sensibly, re-reading it after posting and editing it when there are obvious errors apparent.

Most software edits "the letterD" as "the" in the same way that it edits "ID" as "I'd" but these are very easy to fix IF guys would re-read their post after submitting it.

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1748582]If you fly to BKK from a yellow fever zone and you don't have a vaccination card, you can get a shot (for a fee) before you go through immigration. They will issue you a card, and the shot is good for 10 years. Happened to me once when I was flying from Kenya or South Africa to BKK.[/QUOTE]I googled it and this is the best I got: [URL]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/427711-yellow-fever-shot-requirement-for-infected-countries/[/URL] It appears that some people coming in from a yellow fever zone are not even asked for yellow fever card while others are. So I suppose the quarantine requirement is dealt with similarly. I did see the sign at the airport stating that in the absence of a card you are required to be quarantined for a certain number of days.

Good advice Bro.

Usually I land up there for 2-3 days and I spend it in different experiences. Once MP, once SOAPIE, one just river cruise, one of the outcalls on the web so on.

Worth it to keep changing.

Also Bangkok is one place which gives you plenty to do between mongerings and that's what I love about this place.

[QUOTE=Jeremy101;1747415]Why? Because it can become so damn addictive. Also, it has caused me to lose interest in western ladies.

Here is how I do Thailand, you may take my advice or leave it. Free advice is worth what you pay, but I have also found that truly good advice comes from unexpected places at unexpected times:

1) I don't do Soi Cowboy, Nana or Patpong, it's just not my thing. It's a bit too mercenary (and loud!) for me. Also, I can have a great time at many other places like the small bars along Soi 26 or some of the other smaller night time venues.

2) Each day and night should have a different theme. One night might be Ratchadipisek high end soapie night, another night might be a dinner cruise up the CP, the next night might be buying a few ladies out of a massage parlor, etc.

3) Stay hydrated, sleep well, leave all valuables in your in room safe, don't get drunk and stupid (or try not to);.

4) Do make lots of friends with lots of Thai ladies. You do this by going on dating websites, getting to know them, calling them, talking on the phone, and then taking them out to dinner when you are there. Do not treat them badly online, Thai ladies don't like sex talk. Be friendly and polite, meet them in BKK, and woo them to bed on a date. Never send money to them, ever. If you want to give them a gift when you are there, that's fine. But never be a sponsor, ever.

5) Try not to fall in love. If you suspect your Thai girlfriend has other men on the side, she does. In fact, it's probably much worse than you think. But that's OK, and that's fair, because you aren't exclusively seeing her.

6) Don't go to Thailand unless you have brought sufficient funds. There is nothing worse than being in The Land of Milk and Honey, and not having enough money. You should have enough money to do what you want, when you want.

7) Wear condoms for intercourse. BBBJ is fine.

8) Don't get into disputes with Thais. If the taxi driver is cheating you 100 bhat or whatever or your check bin is padded, let it go. It's not worth it. If there is a major dispute, Thais stick together, and it won't go well for you. And when and if the BiB show up, they will probably arrest you.

9) I like massage parlors. Get to know reputable mamasans and papasans. Get their email addresses / phone numbers. If they are good and know their stuff, they can really get you what you want. I got to know the papasan at Poseidons (Lucho), during the Viet Nam War, he worked at a US airbase in Korat. He wears a ring given to him from a pilot who was shot down. We used to trade emails on occasion, and he would tip me off to good performers and new girls. He always knew what he was talking about.

10) Get to know massage girls as well. For example, I am fairly good friends with Saki at All Stars (she works out of several MPs) and I have known her for years. Sometimes she will set me up with her friends or have threesomes or even foursomes, and it is cheaper than doing it through the MP.

Please feel free to add to this list. Let's keep the discussion going![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1747828]Not working any more. Been gone at least 3 months now. It's not just a break. Similar girls? Ha ha![/QUOTE]Damn, that's a blow to the sex industry! Has she left the industry completely or is this just a temporary break? Hopefully Dr BJ can confirm. I note that her profile is still up on the website so hope still springs eternal.

[QUOTE=YoungFun;1746233]Hello,

In the end of July I'll have a connecting flight in Bangkok. I'll arrive there at around 7 pm and have the next flight the next morning.

It will be my first time in Thailand so I wanted to see Bangkok for one night.

A friend advised me to go to Silom, where most tourists go.

A few questions: [/QUOTE]1. Can I deposit my luggage at the airport? I intend to visit the city and then go back to the airport to sleep. Can you not check it through to the destination or just carry on? I usually carry a change of clothes on me in my carry on in case my baggage goes missing and that is handy for Bangkok as you may be pretty sweaty after rushing around.

2. How can I get to Silom from the airport by train or bus? There is a train that departs from the airport and meets up with the BTS. From there you can easily travel to Silom or Sukhumvit. Its cheap and not so time consuming as you think as Bangkok traffic can be pretty bad. Late night to early morning though isn't a problem and taxi is more convenient. If you don't use a metered taxi then price should be around 400 by agreement.

5. Is there any good massage (nuru or soapy) parlor in Silom? And good gogo bars / BJ bars? Sois 22 - 24 on sukhumvit would be a good starting place.

Was in Cowboy for the first time since November of last year. Had some friends in town and they wanted to pay a visit, so I offered to take them. Man, how depressing. Was there about 10 pm and several of the bars we looked in on had no one, that's right, zero customers. Suzy's, Dollhouse, and a few others were empty. A friend of mine manages a well known bar there and said biz was terrible. Fridays and Saturdays are ok, but the rest of the week is dead. Contrast that with Crazy House and Baccara which were full. The crowd in those bars was 80% Asian and sadly they allow smoking in the bars as well. Without the Asians those bars would have not been doing well either. Gals in those two places were in my opinion just meh. Crazy House was full of youngish gals, most with a harder Isaan look, while Baccara was filled with quite a few plastic surgery disasters. Where do these gals get these awful tit and nose jobs? FFS, there are some amazing surgeons here and there is no reason to get a bad rack. Truthfully, I found neither bar to be very impressive. A nice body or two, but compared with what you see on the streets of BKK every day, just nothing to write home about. And nothing I would even consider the 125 USD to take for one pop when you add BF, ST, drinks, and ST hotel. I would consider it for half that, which is what I pay at the oilies for a multi-pop amazing PSE session. The P4 P industry really is kind of getting the dregs these days. But, with the economy flagging big time, perhaps we are due for a mini-resurgence. It will be short lived, but I'll take what we can get.

Drink prices are also out of site. 175 baht for a beer? Jeez. Get real. No wonder there are empty bars. During most of my 15 year tenure in BKK, Cowboy was the hangout for expats. During the low season it was residents that kept the place going. Now none of the guys I know ever go there. Even the most hardcore denizens have sworn it off. Sorry, it is just a rip off and really not fun. Amazingly mercenary.

Want to fill those bars? Price the beer at no more than 120 Baht, lady drinks the same, lower the barfines back to 500 Baht, kick out the Coyotes, and get the ST price back to 1500 Baht. The bars will be heaving again with locals. And really, when times are tough, it is locals that carry you through. Sadly, most of the bar owners have forgotten that. Guess they have become to "local" in their thinking. But, hey, you reap what you sow.

Luckily the oilies have gotten the message. Customers are way down, but I have found overall service is up. Gals are trying to get repeat customers. Fancy that. Biz is still not good as one of my favs at SW is thinking of heading overseas to work; she is just not getting enough sessions.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1749628]Gals in those two places were in my opinion just meh. Crazy House was full of youngish gals, most with a harder Isaan look, while Baccara was filled with quite a few plastic surgery disasters. Where do these gals get these awful tit and nose jobs? FFS, there are some amazing surgeons here and there is no reason to get a bad rack.

Want to fill those bars? Price the beer at no more than 120 Baht, lady drinks the same, lower the barfines back to 500 Baht, kick out the Coyotes, and get the ST price back to 1500 Baht. The bars will be heaving again with locals. And really, when times are tough, it is locals that carry you through. Sadly, most of the bar owners have forgotten that. Guess they have become to "local" in their thinking. But, hey, you reap what you sow.
[/QUOTE]On CH: I find that if I am patient enough to hang out for approximately 3 dance rotations, the gems do pop up, meaning, a few very attractive girls make their appearance. But it is funny, because on some nights I will hit a CH dry well and not find any eligible young girls and other nights CH will be bountiful with up to 5 really attractive girls hanging about.

My favorite CH girl Line chatted me the other day informing me that she has moved to Mercury Go Go in Nana. She did not elaborate on why she moved, but the move is ok with me because it opens up a clean slate of girls in CH to choose from.

On Baccara: Once again, the best results occur when I just hang out there, am not in any rush, and give it plenty of time. Spotting 5 truly attractive, natural girls out the 80 or 100 Baccara dancers is all I need to make a good selection and be happy on any given night.

On a surgical side note: A friend of M (my favorite, now ex Baccara Go Go girl) and a member of M's entourage, still works in Baccara. I stopped by after a Soapy Session a couple times during my last trip just to say Hi, to catch up on things, and to buy her a couple rounds of Tequila. I always liked Dom. She was the sweetest and most demure of all the girls in M's entourage and I frequently thought about how nice it would be to shag her if and when the right time presented itself. She was a cute little girl. Unfortunately, Dom had gone under the knife while I was away and her botched nose job is a perfect example of surgical malpractice IMHO. It was so bad that I didn't recognize her at first glance even though I was in Baccara expressly for the purpose of looking her up and saying Hello. She spotted me right away, however and began waving at me from across the 2nd floor as she walked over to my table. I guess she saw my original look of non-recognition because the first thing she said to me was, "Mak, don't you know me?" I had recovered my footing by then and I said, "of course I do. How are you, Dom. It is real nice to see you" She then posed for me and asked if I liked her new nose. What could I say but, "you look great!" But what a fucking desecration it truly was. Before the operation, Dom had always been a sweet looking natural Issan girl next door type. Post operation, sporting a Tom Cruise high ridge straight "Roman" nose, her face now looks so different she is almost unrecognizable, like some kind of plastic manikin. What a disaster. And sadly for me, ha ha, there is no way I am going to shag nice little Dom now. It's too bad!

This reminds me of another Baccara girl that I liked a lot and used to see fairly regularly by the name of Tik, until I came back to BKK one year and found that Tik had a "Doctor" surgically insert 2 round National League baseballs into her chest. It was another surgical disaster IMHO. And Tik was such a wonderful girl, with a great personality and in possesion of such perky, pretty little natural "A" cups that I used to love to palm as she rode my dick Cowgirl. I barfined her twice post implants just to be nice and for old times sake, but I had a lot of trouble cumming. Sensing my problem, Tik offered bareback and really went all out in order to satisfy me. But I could not enjoy her half as much with those major league baseballs attached to her chest. A year later I heard she went back to Issan and I never saw her again. I call it surgical malpractice. I hope she got those silly-cons removed.

On low season pricing: The bar owners, if they were savvy would wise up and drop the price in order to increase demand, but I am afraid they just don't understand basic Micro Economics 101 supply and demand. But I will work it to my advantage this fall. I love low season in Thailand because the bars are hurting and the girls are hungry. I hate Pattaya in the high season. It is a zoo and total BS. But in low season, Pattaya is quite nice.

It reminds me of my home in South Florida. In the high season all these fucking snow birds fly down to enjoy the sunshine and they invariably screw up everything including the traffic and the nightlife. I can't even go to my favorite restaurants in the winter without making an advance 2 week reservation. And the funny thing; the tourists say they love the Florida weather. But the Florida weather in Dec / Jan / Feb actually sucks. It is too cold to go swimming in Florida at this time of the year and at night the temperature can dip down to the high 40's. Argh! Yeah, Yeah, I know it is better than the sub zero degree weather up north. I used to live in Chicago.

You know how we spot a tourist? They drive their convertible Mercedes with the top down in 50 degree Florida weather. But one thing good I will say about the tourists; they keep taxes low and support the infrastructure. Many restaurants, bars and stores could not remain in business throughout the rest of the year without the friggin' tourists. Same same for the high season tourists in Thailand. They make it possible for Pattaya and BKK to support thousands of working girls, have hundreds of Go Go's, scores of sexy massage parlors ect, ect, year round. Fortunately, I can visit after most of the tourists have left Thailand.

I read the reports about how the bar owners should do things but they don't. I'm an infrequent visitor and always peak season although last time was in April so tailing off. It's anecdotal but I've been told on a few occasions by girls that they have to put their demands up in low season to make good the shortfall of punters. They just don't get the supply / demand thing. When I was there in April the season was quiet and at the time I didn't think about it but it did seem that the prices had gone up. I dismissed at the time as just a bit of bad luck and it wasn't exactly a scientific survey. I was asked for 1500 bar fine in Tim's bar and asked about three times as I thought I had misheard. The girl wanted 3000 LT but when I repeated the how much is the bar fine question for the third time it was interpreted that I was really keen and then she wanted 4000. I was told that there were few girls of quality and thus I had to decide. The reality was that the girl in question was the best looker in the place but on another day, in another place, she really wouldn't stand out. I walked but then with a couple of LDs and such it would've been quite an outlay. I think my bar bill was close to ฿1000 for a couple of beers and LDs. Never went back and won't. I've had a couple of expensive times in there with that pushy Mamasan. Moaning over, I'll be back in December and I am thinking seriously about getting an apartment for a real long break for months rather than a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=PedroT97;1749763]I read the reports about how the bar owners should do things but they don't. I'm an infrequent visitor and always peak season although last time was in April so tailing off. It's anecdotal but I've been told on a few occasions by girls that they have to put their demands up in low season to make good the shortfall of punters. They just don't get the supply / demand thing. When I was there in April the season was quiet and at the time I didn't think about it but it did seem that the prices had gone up. I dismissed at the time as just a bit of bad luck and it wasn't exactly a scientific survey. I was asked for 1500 bar fine in Tim's bar and asked about three times as I thought I had misheard. The girl wanted 3000 LT but when I repeated the how much is the bar fine question for the third time it was interpreted that I was really keen and then she wanted 4000. I was told that there were few girls of quality and thus I had to decide. The reality was that the girl in question was the best looker in the place but on another day, in another place, she really wouldn't stand out. I walked but then with a couple of LDs and such it would've been quite an outlay. I think my bar bill was close to ฿1000 for a couple of beers and LDs. Never went back and won't. I've had a couple of expensive times in there with that pushy Mamasan. Moaning over, I'll be back in December and I am thinking seriously about getting an apartment for a real long break for months rather than a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]With the exception of hotels, just about everything else is bassackwards when it comes to pricing in LOS. You are correct; when it's slow they raise prices, never once thinking that if they lowered them more folks would come. But of course if they lowered them they would have to work more.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1749709]On CH: I find that if I am patient enough to hang out for approximately 3 dance rotations, the gems do pop up, meaning, a few very attractive girls make their appearance. But it is funny, because on some nights I will hit a CH dry well and not find any eligible young girls and other nights CH will be bountiful with up to 5 really attractive girls hanging about.

My favorite CH girl Line chatted me the other day informing me that she has moved to Mercury Go Go in Nana. She did not elaborate on why she moved, but the move is ok with me because it opens up a clean slate of girls in CH to choose from.

On Baccara: Once again, the best results occur when I just hang out there, am not in any rush, and give it plenty of time. Spotting 5 truly attractive, natural girls out the 80 or 100 Baccara dancers is all I need to make a good selection and be happy on any given night.[/QUOTE]I don't think I could take the smoke or extremely bad dance music for three rotations.

[QUOTE=Jeremy101;1747415]Why? Because it can become so damn addictive. Also, it has caused me to lose interest in western ladies.

Here is how I do Thailand, you may take my advice or leave it. Free advice is worth what you pay, but I have also found that truly good advice comes from unexpected places at unexpected times:

1) I don't do Soi Cowboy, Nana or Patpong, it's just not my thing. It's a bit too mercenary (and loud!) for me. Also, I can have a great time at many other places like the small bars along Soi 26 or some of the other smaller night time venues.

2) Each day and night should have a different theme. One night might be Ratchadipisek high end soapie night, another night might be a dinner cruise up the CP, the next night might be buying a few ladies out of a massage parlor, etc.

3) Stay hydrated, sleep well, leave all valuables in your in room safe, don't get drunk and stupid (or try not to);.

4) Do make lots of friends with lots of Thai ladies. You do this by going on dating websites, getting to know them, calling them, talking on the phone, and then taking them out to dinner when you are there. Do not treat them badly online, Thai ladies don't like sex talk. Be friendly and polite, meet them in BKK, and woo them to bed on a date. Never send money to them, ever. If you want to give them a gift when you are there, that's fine. But never be a sponsor, ever..[/QUOTE]Damn fine summary. For the non-P2P girls I've found Tinder and Badoo apps to be great, no problems getting initial contact, just need to take the time to filter and convert the good ones into dates. Tinder has a feature if you subscribe you can change your location, so if you are planning a visit anywhere you can change your location to that place and start making the contacts a couple weeks before and have dates lined up when you arrive. If in the mood for a late night then I really like Mixx or Levels, seem to have the most and best quality freelancers. Best to go later when the girls have had enough partying with their girlfriends and looking to hook up. Mixx has a few Russians floating around but have only ever heard bad stories, eg, being great until the money changes hands then turning drunk / stupid / angry / weird. Try go ladies night, Wed or Thurs I think.

[QUOTE=Dinotrex;1746434]Where is the best place to find PSE's? There are so many posts out there between GoGo bars or Oilys or Soapies? I'm not sure which forum to direct this question to. Any places specific anyone can recommend? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Has to be Club Eden surely?

[QUOTE=MrPerfectClean;1749896]Has to be Club Eden surely?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dinotrex;1746434]Where is the best place to find PSE's? There are so many posts out there between GoGo bars or Oilys or Soapies? I'm not sure which forum to direct this question to. Any places specific anyone can recommend? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I'd say no, I'd say Mango, Tulip & Snow White are best for PSE, multi pop, A+ sessions, even if selecting 2 girls. I find the oilies less mechanical than Eden.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1749709]It reminds me of my home in South Florida.[/QUOTE]Question for you Natty-.

With South / Central Am / DR etc so close to you in S FL, why do you still venture over to LOS considering the cost and time investment needed?

Just curious. Do you find the scene to be that much better over here?