Moscow

Toto,
Most of the profiles from that website are fake.
Great majority of photos are of PB models, porn models from Czech Republic
and plenty of MetArt models.
This is typical operation, fake photos, you can set up a meeting but the girl at your door will not be the one from the photo.

[QUOTE=Toto001]I assume it is some pimp who is actually answering the mails. The girls are probably on work.
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Your intuition is correct. But there are a lot of regular girls on mamba too, and plenty do speak English. RTFF for more info on honing your selection process on mamba.

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Anyways, I also stepped over an escort page. The girls there look really great! Could this be? Does anybody have experience with girls from that escort?
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That site seems to have stolen photos from some of the most beautiful models on the internet (who are primarily NOT Russian, BTW). If you want an escort, go to dosug.cz, intimcity.ru, rusdosug or similar and put in the search parameters you want: age, measurements, weight, height, region, etc. Then look for reviews with that phone number on sextalk.ru. Yes, they'll be in Russian, and they'll likely use a lot of slang that your online translator won't understand, but I'm pretty sure you'll get the gist.

Udachi, dude...

In the past week alone, two of my best mates and I have been victims to petty crimes. One of the common tactics is a familiar one. Someone walks up to you on the street and tries to engage you in conversation "Where are you from? Oh, you're a foreigner! I love foreigners!" From there, the assailant will try to hug, wrestle or in some other way try to get in close, personal contact with you in an attempt to locate and extricate your wallet and/or other valuables. These will then be discreetly passed to an accomplice who will quickly get in a car and drive off, giving your original attacker some plausible deniability as to the whereabouts of your property. Steps to avoid such attacks are obvious: always be aware of your surroundings, don't talk with strangers on the street, and maintain physical distance with them at all times.

Doc and I also had a bad experience this week. We'd started with a couple beers at HD (watching a football match, certainly NOT the skanky hos who were working on that night), then proceeded to Che. It was a particularly bad night for talent at Che as well, so we ordered a couple of mojitos and tried to make the best of it. Doc was chatting up a 30-ish girl whose "boyfriend" had recently left. After an hour or so, she also left. We'd been buzzing after another round or two of mojitos, but well in control of ourselves. But within 20 minutes, we both were near passing out. We managed to grab a taxi and that's the last thing I remember before waking up in bed the next morning with a king-sized hangover that lasted the entire day and evening. It wasn't until recounting all the events that following night that we put it together that we'd been drugged. So as always, boys, keep an eye on your drinks!

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Sometimes bringing along a girlfriend for moral support is legitimate IMO, particularly on a first date with a stranger. Girls have security issues. I've been on a few of these and they always went well, in fact sometimes having a third person there is good for conversation. I don't think it is inherently a matter of wanting to get a free meal at the expense of a foreigner.
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Yeah, I guess I didn't explain well. It wasn't so bad she brought her along, it was that when I said I wouldn't be paying for her friend, they gut all hussy and wondered why I care so much about money (implying I'm not rich ... which I'm not). Just a huge warning sign that they were money *****s.

I definitely do blow a lot of money in Moscow, but my main vice is strip clubs.

In case people are interested, here's two mini reviews:

Bordo - (metro Kitai Gorod) - Bordo is a combination strip club and brothel. As far as I can tell the girls there are not employees, but come by themselves freelance. There is no official striptease on the poles, and most of the time no one is dancing. Instead girls come over and will give you a lap dance and talk to you and try to get you to pay for a private dance or sex. Tipping at the table is a minimum 200 rubles (this is standard everywhere in Moscow now). A private dance for fifteen minutes is 3000 rubles. The asking price for full service is 15000 rubles for an hour, but I've negotiated down to 6000 for half an hour. Cover is 1000 rubles, Beer is 330 rubles, a hookah is 1600 rubles. It is very expensive, but the girls are stunning and a typical night has 20-30 girls and about the same number of clients. Walking in and seeing 15 topless girls and another 15 stunners all eye fucking the shit out of you makes for an interesting experience.

Show Girls - (metro Prospekt Mira) - This place is in the Olympic stadium (on the first floor - the sign reads KOKO). Lots of girls (20-30), again mostly stunners (all 8-10). Cover is 1000 rubles. Beer and food is cheaper (can't remember exactly, about 200 rubles for a beer). Hookah is 1000 rubles but very good, will easily last 3-4 hours as the coals are unlimited. There is no dancing at tables, and no sex on offer (well you can take out). You pay a girl 1500 rubles for a private dance of about 10 minutes. This only happens at certain times, and the rest of the time the girls join tables and party with the guys. Great for taking clients, etc. out to as the atmosphere is really lively and in between private dances it's just like a big party.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]In the past week alone, two of my best mates and I have been victims to petty crimes. One of the common tactics is a familiar one. Someone walks up to you on the street and tries to engage you in conversation "Where are you from? Oh, you're a foreigner! I love foreigners!" From there, the assailant will try to hug, wrestle or in some other way try to get in close, personal contact with you in an attempt to locate and extricate your wallet and/or other valuables. These will then be discreetly passed to an accomplice who will quickly get in a car and drive off, giving your original attacker some plausible deniability as to the whereabouts of your property. Steps to avoid such attacks are obvious: always be aware of your surroundings, don't talk with strangers on the street, and maintain physical distance with them at all times.

Doc and I also had a bad experience this week. We'd started with a couple beers at HD (watching a football match, certainly NOT the skanky hos who were working on that night), then proceeded to Che. It was a particularly bad night for talent at Che as well, so we ordered a couple of mojitos and tried to make the best of it. Doc was chatting up a 30-ish girl whose "boyfriend" had recently left. After an hour or so, she also left. We'd been buzzing after another round or two of mojitos, but well in control of ourselves. But within 20 minutes, we both were near passing out. We managed to grab a taxi and that's the last thing I remember before waking up in bed the next morning with a king-sized hangover that lasted the entire day and evening. It wasn't until recounting all the events that following night that we put it together that we'd been drugged. So as always, boys, keep an eye on your drinks![/QUOTE]All the more reason to find a wing man.... Being out there alone can be dangerous.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]. And I think I said it all. IMHO.[/QUOTE]In Kyiv once I invited a first timer for a DRINK, she came with a friend. I asked what they wanted to drink. Champanski, ok. 1 bottle, pivo for me.

Soon they were speaking Russian to the waitress while looking at the menu.

I asked, HOPE YA GOT $?

Finished my beer, laid down 80 grivna and LEFT.

Don't let them PLAY ya!

Moscow center had the reputation to be safe (more than any other european capital at least). Hope it won't change. Hope also Che will stays away from such problems.

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Doc and I started with a couple beers at HD, then at Che, we ordered a couple of mojitos and after another round or two, we were near passing out.

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If the two of you, who know this technique and how to avoid it better than anyone else, and know Che as well as anyone, can't tell when the bartender is setting you up to get rolled when you pass up on any p4p, then there's not much hope for the rest of us, if we're gonna order anything from the bar.

Even a "special" bottle of beer, water, or iced tea, could always have had something injected into the top with a syringe, or had the bottle top cramped back on after adding tasteless GHB or a drop or two of fentanyl, then specifically picked for you from the rest by the bartender or waitress, so there's basically nothing safe, except bringing your own flask to drink, and if you're absolutely required to order something, then just leave it or accidentally spill it on the floor.

Maybe you should try to reverse the scam, somehow pretend to drink what they give you, maybe discreetly pour it into a plant or under the table, or pour it out in the toilet, then fake like you're passing out. Then when the bad guys show up to roll you, pull out your Walther PPK and surprise them with two slugs in the back of their heads.

That's what a true Vhor would do.

[QUOTE=Toto001]I will be in Moscow soon and will stay in Hotel Maritim Renessaince.

While looking for some girl I could meet there, I have been mailing hundreds of girls at Mamba, but it appears there are no girls that speak english. All I receive is Russian telefone numbers and the prices as resonse. I assume it is some pimp who is actually answering the mails. The girls are probably on work.

Anyways, I also stepped over an escort page. The girls there look really great! Could this be? Does anybody have experience with girls from that escort?

Would be happy to receive your comments on this, or any recommendation for a model like busty girl I could hook up with.

[url]http://www.exclusivegirls.ru/enter.php[/url][/QUOTE]
As others have said, that looks fake or at least over-stated.

While I have not actually used it yet, [url]www.rusdosug.com[/url] looks like the best web-site source for P4P - at least for those without Russian skills. Rusdosug has an English language version (plus French, Germany and Italian) and has an excellent search function. Yes, there will still be fake or doctored photos and yes many girls posing as independents are fronting for brothels or salons, but welcome to the world of prositution - it is not a bastion of advertising integrity!

[QUOTE=Toto001][url]http://www.exclusivegirls.ru/enter.php[/url][/QUOTE]This site is an obvious rip-off. There are 2 main ways to tell this:

1. It's in English, and
2. The phone number begins with 7.

They are obviously appealing to foreign tourists. The chances of actually meeting one of these girls is almost nil, and if you do, they will be grossly overpriced.

The main website for internet P4P is intimcity.ru (and its sister site, rusdosug.com). Ninety five percent of the working girls in Moscow, who advertise on the internet, are on this site. The other 5% aren't worth talking about. Intimcity.ru is strictly in Russian. For those of you who are "Cyrillically challenged", rusdosug.ru will give you an English translation

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]If the two of you, who know this technique and how to avoid it better than anyone else, and know Che as well as anyone, can't tell when the bartender is setting you up to get rolled when you pass up on any p4p, then there's not much hope for the rest of us, if we're gonna order anything from the bar.[/QUOTE]Best way to deal with the problem is to simply avoid the expat nightclubs altogether.

After reading a few of the entertaining reports here it reminds me of an awesome book I read last year 'I hope they serve beer in hell'. Hilarious. I'm in Moscow tonight (Monday night and obviously not the best night) and I've looked through the posts on here to get the knowledge on the best places for the free action and pay for play. I totally agree with those on here who prefer to test the free market before p4p as being preferable if not only for keeping $ in the wallet but for the ego massage of having gorgous women put down their ***** shields and cock blocking antics. I've made a few notes based on reports here which runs to a dozen or so places which I'd like narrowing down for best results with the dynamic of a Monday night! Please feel free to confirm what I've noted or put me right on the confused. The list reads:

For Free: Che, Garazh, Papa's, Real McCoy, Tikka Bar, Tema Bar, 16 Tons, Road House, Kitay. Gorod, Lubyanka (it wasn't clear if these last two were areas of Moscow or bars)? Is Kitay the bar in Gorod and Lubyanka is.?

Expat orientated pick up bars with free and P4p:

Hungry Duck, Sorry Babushka, Hot Dog, Boar House, Doug and Matys, 1171, 31/7

Tochka's: Fantasies, Charmel and ElitTV $125. 150

Being in my early thirties and often informed I have a resemblance of David Beckham and Gordon Ramsey (Go figure I Know) with an understanding if not total grasp of 'The Game' and I do OK when it comes to women. Recently working in the airline industry and with 15 different women on every flight the opportunities are daily. My weakness though is very attractive women especially Russian/ Slavic's. I've been learning Russian for just over a year using Pimsleur audio's on my ipod for at least an hour a day and study several phrasebooks. I understand Cyrillic and I am at a basic level of understanding Russian and am working toward being fluent which will take years which I'm happy to commit to.

I have been to Moscow twice and I my line of work allows me to go as often as I like but only for 24 hrs at a time. My last visit was very interesting if not for mongering but in seeing the effect a foreigner has on Russian women. To cut a long story short. Being with my crew in a restaurant I was getting 'the eye' from another table with three women and two guys. After going to the loo I came out to to find two of the women outside the gents with one engaging me with a 'I wanna fuck you' look which I naturally reciprocated with a cocky smile and headed back to join the meal. Sometime later after seeing us prepare to leave, the same women came out to the reception area and asked where I was going. I explained that despite me wanting to go for more drinks in Moscow, my fellow crew were being boring and wanted to rest. This had them asking me to join them and I played hard to get and in part. Not quite sure of the arrangement with the guys at their table. One of them who was a size 8, petite brunette with a perfect body in tight pants and figure hugging polo neck said it would make her night if I would join them if only for a few drinks. She said that she was married but she really wanted to spend some time with me. I didn't resist.

At the table with my basic Russian and their pidgeon English we drank Vodka and I was made very welcome with him saying how Russians respect those who try to learn thir mother tongue. What I didn't know was that her husband was there at the table. It was Eurovision night in Moscow and he dissapeared for some 20 minutes and the ladies and I carried on drinking. When he returned momentarily he then left again with his wife in tow for them to return ten minutes later with him having a cut on his cheek and a deep scratch on his neck. He sat down next to me and after a few minutes he explained that his crazy wife believed that when he went off to see the song contest results he had infact gone to have sex with another woman in the toilets? ! Knowing that earlier she was the one who had waited for me outside the gents I realized what a Machavelian crazy ***** she clearly was in thinking she could try to manipulate a situation where she would accuse her husband of one year of infidelity where he would storm out and leave us together? ! We carried on drinking but my enjoyment was more of the company of the decent Russian guy as opposed to the prospect of shagging what turned out to be his wife. It was the guy who I swapped numbers with at the end of the night and subsequently kept in touch with!

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After reading a few of the entertaining reports here it reminds me of an awesome book I read last year 'I hope they serve beer in hell' ...hilarious.

I'm in Moscow tonight (Monday night and obviously not the best night) and I've looked through the posts on here to get the knowledge on the best places for the free action and pay for play. I totally agree with those on here who prefer to test the free market before p4p as being preferable if not only for keeping $ in the wallet but for the ego massage of having gorgous women put down their ***** shields and cock blocking antics. I've made a few notes based on reports here which runs to a dozen or so places which I'd like narrowing down for best results with the dynamic of a Monday night! Please feel free to confirm what I've noted or put me right on the confused. The list reads:

For Free: Che, Garazh, Papa's, Real McCoy, Tikka Bar, Tema Bar, 16 Tons, Road House, Kitay... Gorod, Lubyanka (it wasn't clear if these last two were areas of Moscow or bars)? Is Kitay the bar in Gorod and Lubyanka is...?

Expat orientated pick up bars with free and P4p:

Hungry Duck, Sorry Babushka, Hot Dog, Boar House, Doug and Matys, 1171, 31/7

Tochka's: Fantasies, Charmel and ElitTV $125 - 150


Being in my early thirties and often informed I have a resemblance of David Beckham and Gordon Ramsey (Go figure I Know) with an understanding if not total grasp of 'The Game' and I do OK when it comes to women. Recently working in the airline industry and with 15 different women on every flight the opportunities are daily. My weakness though is very attractive women especially Russian/ Slavic's. I've been learning Russian for just over a year using Pimsleur audio's on my ipod for at least an hour a day and study several phrasebooks. I understand Cyrillic and I am at a basic level of understanding Russian and am working toward being fluent which will take years which I'm happy to commit to.

I have been to Moscow twice and I my line of work allows me to go as often as I like but only for 24 hrs at a time. My last visit was very interesting if not for mongering but in seeing the effect a foreigner has on Russian women. To cut a long story short... being with my crew in a restaurant I was getting 'the eye' from another table with three women and two guys. After going to the loo I came out to to find two of the women outside the gents with one engaging me with a 'I wanna fuck you' look which I naturally reciprocated with a cocky smile and headed back to join the meal. Sometime later after seeing us prepare to leave, the same women came out to the reception area and asked where I was going. I explained that despite me wanting to go for more drinks in Moscow, my fellow crew were being boring and wanted to rest. This had them asking me to join them and I played hard to get and in part ...not quite sure of the arrangement with the guys at their table. One of them who was a size 8, petite brunette with a perfect body in tight pants and figure hugging polo neck said it would make her night if I would join them if only for a few drinks. She said that she was married but she really wanted to spend some time with me. I didn't resist.

At the table with my basic Russian and their pidgeon English we drank Vodka and I was made very welcome with him saying how Russians respect those who try to learn thir mother tongue. What I didn't know was that her husband was there at the table. It was Eurovision night in Moscow and he dissapeared for some 20 minutes and the ladies and I carried on drinking. When he returned momentarily he then left again with his wife in tow for them to return ten minutes later with him having a cut on his cheek and a deep scratch on his neck. He sat down next to me and after a few minutes he explained that his crazy wife believed that when he went off to see the song contest results he had infact gone to have sex with another woman in the toilets?! Knowing that earlier she was the one who had waited for me outside the gents I realized what a Machavelian crazy ***** she clearly was in thinking she could try to manipulate a situation where she would accuse her husband of one year of infidelity where he would storm out and leave us together?! We carried on drinking but my enjoyment was more of the company of the decent Russian guy as opposed to the prospect of shagging what turned out to be his wife. It was the guy who I swapped numbers with at the end of the night and subsequently kept in touch with!

[QUOTE=Size Six Lover]I'm in Moscow tonight (Monday night and obviously not the best night)[/QUOTE]I'm in Moscow Tuesday night and not Monday! Too many time zones and days and nights rolling into one on my roster! So where on my long list is better for a Tuesday night 1am - 4 for pick up and P4P?

[QUOTE=Size Six Lover]...

I'm in Moscow tonight (Monday night and obviously not the best night) and I've looked through the posts on here to get the knowledge on the best places for the free action and pay for play. ...

For Free: Che, Garazh, Papa's, Real McCoy, Tikka Bar, Tema Bar, 16 Tons, Road House, Kitay... Gorod, Lubyanka (it wasn't clear if these last two were areas of Moscow or bars)? Is Kitay the bar in Gorod and Lubyanka is...?

Kitay Gorod = China Town in Russian (and is an inner Moscow city METRO station).
Lubyanka is also an inner Moscow city METRO station. It takes its name from the adjacent "fortress", an ex-KGB headquarters, and often first point of interrogation, torture etc. for dissidents.

Freebies in Moscow is an exciting chase. There can be few feelings more inducing of testosterone than being packed into a METRO carriage surrounded by emerging, current or immediate past "super models", or almost so.

Well done with your Pimsleur Russian practice. The best way to advance your Russian language, of course, is with "pillow talk".

I found the Internet a good way to make female friends with the occasional and memorable freebie.

I am now reaching for the handkerchief as I get misty eyed at my memories.

Miss the dazzling eyes and the high cheek bones.

Yes, please do report.

Enjoy Moscow.

P13