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[QUOTE=Tochka;3064409]Original Review and Posted by Tochka*.
There are always love motels. True words have been spoken.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.[/QUOTE]Is there a motel in SP that don't require ID at all? Or would a photo of passport work?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3064594]Is there a motel in SP that don't require ID at all? Or would a photo of passport work?[/QUOTE]Almost anything with a photo works at love motels. I've used a Thai driver's license, color copies of passport, or IDs with the name Tochka & foto. I even print and laminate my own IDs sometimes, (fvck Kalunga's ripoff lamination prices) I use those at boates and love motels. Many accept ID on your phone. I've also used expired licenses and even library cards with photo.
The garotas usually hand over their iPhones with the digital ID to the receptionist. Honestly, it's a quick way to finally see their real names instead of their Scandallo / Gaugin / Casarão club names kkk. Some CLínica garotas have like five different names because the clinic already has a Mel, CauCau, Monica, Karen, Amanda, etc.
The slow-ass receptionist usually just needs a number and a name to enter into the computer to track your expenses. You pay upfront at reception, then pay again before leaving. Pay for food, drinks, sex toys, and any extras, some garotas will help themselves to anything in the minifridge. Its damn hard to track three, energetic, passionate loira branca garotas. .
If a garota leaves before you do, reception calls the room to make sure you're alive and to confirm she's allowed to leave. Somebody got to be alive to pay for the expenses. , after you pay some places give you small chocolates as thank you. A few places in Rio, Lapa / Gloria area the receptionist keep the damn doors & gates shut tight until the slow ass cleaners check the room & confirmed as paid up (fck those people at Love time motel in Gloria / Lapa avoid) I enjoy ordering breakfast in bed with all three garotas. The next morning. I usual stay until 10 or 11 am for the all night rooms.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3064283]Exactly. A love motel isn't cheap especially if I need to do that every time I see a girl outside of a boate. I'm open to doing a love motel maybe once or twice but apart from that, I'the like to have her at my own pad that I'm paying money for.
I'm trying but it's becoming a chore to find that. I do prefer airbnbs over hotels. I've even mentioned to airbnb hosts that I would gladly take responsibility for any damages that my visitors would cause (which should be obvious anyway) but even that doesn't seem to move the needle much. Just got to keep looking I guess.[/QUOTE]Just sharing my experience with bros that spend a lot of time thinking how to get a hot sexy garota into your airbnb. Have a plan for getting her ass out of your place. Consider when shit goes south in the airbnb. she changes the deal or refuses to leave quietly, demands more money.. You been warned . The garotas are savvy too. its no violence against women month.. And she knows when foreigners don't want a messy situation, esp if your not fluent in rapid brasilian porto slang..Stay safe & party on and enjoy brasil
[QUOTE=Tochka;3064755]Just sharing my experience with bros that spend a lot of time thinking how to get a hot sexy garota into your airbnb. Have a plan for getting her ass out of your place. Consider when shit goes south in the airbnb. she changes the deal or refuses to leave quietly, demands more money.. You been warned . The garotas are savvy too. its no violence against women month.. And she knows when foreigners don't want a messy situation, esp if your not fluent in rapid brasilian porto slang..Stay safe & party on and enjoy brasil[/QUOTE]No GPS come to my place without multiple dates and fuck sessions. Signs I look for is if they stay off their phones, ask for money to buy baby formula, sister is sick etc. These newbie mistakes are super common for those in Medellin. SP far less but still exist.
Anyone around these days? I'm in for a short trip next week, always up to meet with fellow mongers.
Location: Gauguin (Scandallo "Lite" So Paulo, Brazil.
Total Spend: are $ 800 brl (Bottle) + $ 500 (brl ST) + stupid room (230 brl or 250 brl) don't remember too drunk.
Status: VIP (Wristband acquired).
The Bottle Strategy: Chivas whishkeyn& Entry Upgrades.
The night started with a win. The house was still holding my Chivas bottle from a previous visit. After finishing it, I wasn't looking to drop more cash immediately, but the bartender laid out the math on a new Chivas (R $ 800) brl.
The Power Move: I requested to pay for the bottle at the front desk immediately rather than at the end of the night.
The Upgrade: I initially looked at the are $ 500 brl entrance fee (vs. The standard are $ 230). However, because I purchased the premium bottle, the manager authorized a VIP Status wristband and waived the entrance fee entirely.
Exit: Smooth. Paid are $ 0 at the desk on the way out.
Saving that mofo receipt!!
The VIP wristband & Drink Savings.
Once that VIP wristband was on, the "blonde teams" of garotas approached in droves.
When the garotas asked for a drink, I offered them only Chivas from my bottle exclusively. None of them turned down a premium 18-year scotch in favor of a standard Gin & Tonic. This effectively cut my "drink bought for girls" expense to cost of my bottle. Kkk.
Sometimes the bartenders would make a big production to show the garotas this was my personalize bottle. Kkkk dude I am not falling for that he is a big baller spender signal bullshit.
Not ONE of the garotas complained or refused. Every single one switched from their usual gin & tonic requests to pouring from my bottle. Saved a ton versus buying a garota drink.
Negotiation game was predictable: A lot of garotas opened at are $1000 brl. (sigh) My answer every single time:"are $500 flat. Plus all the Chivas you want. ".
If they wanted are $800+brl Nope. I stayed firm at are $500 brl and never moved.
My standard line became:"I'm heading to Casaro soon anyway. The young blondes from Minas there are are $500 brl. You can sit here all night while I move on. ".
Pause. You could literally see the gears turning. Pause. Then boom many agreed, some walked.
Some didn't. No problem. Next in line.
Only thing they usually asked:"Don't mention the lower price to the other garotas. "Fair enough.
SonWhenever garotas asked for drinks, I'the say:"Only Chivas whisky because I already bought a bottle. ".
Not ONE complained or refused. Every single one switched from their usual gin & tonic requests to pouring from my bottle. Saved a ton versus buying endless individual drinks.
Negotiation game was predictable: A lot opened at are $1000. My answer every single time:"are $500 flat. Plus all the Chivas you want. ".
If they wanted are $800+? Nope. I stayed firm at are $500 and never moved.
The "Casaro" Counter.
When they pushed for are $ 1000 or 800 brl. I used Casarao as the price comparison.
"I am heading to Casaro shortly. The young blondes from Minas Generais there are are $ 500. You can sit here all night or we can go now for are $ 500 plus all the Chivas you can drink. ".
Damn The mental "calculating gears" look on their face is real at 0100 am. . kkk some agreed to the are $ 500 price point, asking only that I keep the rate quiet around the other girls. If they walked, I let them. There is always another one standing next to her.
Only thing they usually asked:"Don't mention the lower price to the other garotas. "Fair enough."
i am sharing the script cause bros have DM me whats the secret to getting lower price, being a Don Juan .. Tom Cruise.. or Belanga. ?? kkk nope ..I stick to my walking away number .. your may be different higher whatever ..I anchor the garotas comparison to casarso not scandallo . many worked the dayshift there in scandallo .. nope sweetie you are no longer scandallo night A team or Scandy day team.. .. speak some brasilian porto to hold a drunken conversations ..,kkk. frequent the place a few times during your trip... just BS you are frequent club visitor
Even with VIP status, there was no discount on the room rates. They remain the priciest part of the "Scandallo lite" experience for a 1-hour session. I think it was same as Scandallo. I had VIP status noted in the computer and tablet. but dont remember any discounts.
what your strategy or MO ? share
There are lower end love motels in Centro that don't require ID. I've been to a couple to meet girls who work out of them. They are not great They front desk collects a small fee. It's the classic no-tell motel situation. I decided not to push my luck after I went to one at night and got out via uber. There are better and more convenient options around Moema and Vila Mariana. The girls who work the 2200 block of Av. Indianapolis use them. I've never used them so far but never say never LOL.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3064594]Is there a motel in SP that don't require ID at all? Or would a photo of passport work?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3065152]Location: Gauguin (Scandallo "Lite" So Paulo, Brazil.
Total Spend: are $ 800 brl (Bottle) + $ 500 (brl ST) + stupid room (230 brl or 250 brl) don't remember too drunk.
Status: VIP (Wristband acquired).
[/QUOTE]What VIP status REALLY gives?
Is it permanent, or you have to pay 500 brl every time?
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3064096]Anyone else annoyed by every airbnb now saying visitors have to be registered in advance? I've been going to SP for several years now and this has only been an issue more recently. Has there been a sudden increase in crime or home invasions in SP in the last 2 years or something?
If I'm bringing a Scandallo girl at 1 am to my apartment, that's not enough time to contact my airbnb host, register her and have the airbnb host sent her information to the building's front desk. Chances are the airbnb host is already asleep during that time.
Every building entry is now "biometrics" based and most buildings require each person entering to have their biometrics scanned, even if it's say a husband and wife or whatever. It's kind of ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Can you point me to where the law is? It sounds like a pain, but I get the saftefy but at the same time yeah if you book some new chick and can't contact the host you are out of luck?
[QUOTE=BlueChange;3065654]Can you point me to where the law is? [/QUOTE]Formally, there is no any law. You just visiting somebody else apartment and the owner can kick you out at any time. All you can do, is to complaining to Airbnb. If it happens several times, Airbnb probably cancel the owner account. They also can try to find you a new apartment, but you can do it as well.
Damn the dollar is losing value to the BRL quite a bit.
As long as it is above 4, vagabundo is killing it in Brazil.
50 minutes in medias res.
Playing chris isaak.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3065777]Damn the dollar is losing value to the BRL quite a bit.[/QUOTE]
I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.
Where do I begin oh boy there is a lot to unpack.
Let's start with Brazil. The city is Sao Paulo, it's a major hub largest city with max population in Latin America and world cuisine, gourmet food, michellin star restaurants. And of course ultra modern luxurious sex entertainment.
I'll try my best to break down the scene in Brazil. It is mind blowing. Girls are a fucking 10/10. Great service with Brazilian passion and DFK.
There are 3 spots which I primarily visit all of them are nightclubs or "Boates" in Portuguese.
Scandallo. Biggest and the largest and the most famous venue. 150+ beautiful girls, dressed up and ready to go for romp, white table cloth restaurant, uber luxurious hotel for sexxyy time, lawn garden for smoking outdoor area, Live bands playing music, Brazilian professional events with well known artists. Pricing for 1 HR - 200 EUR for the girl + 50 EUR for the hotel. 250460.
Casarao. This is the real deal, cheaper boate, high volume fuck, lot of locals, young brazilian men in 20's. Dancing, drinking, chatting having a fun time, 30 min pricing 80 EUR for girl + 20 EUR love hotel next door. Up to 70-80 girls, can get fully packed. This is where I get my high volume girls count. 100430.
Gauguin (pronounced Goh-gaan) - This is boate similar to scandallo smaller about 40-60 girls, nice rooms at par with scandallo hotel with built in wall speakers, luxurious rooms, Pricing lower than Scandallo. 150 girl + 50 room. 200460.
Highlight. I fucked Identical twin sisters.
Yup I did it. I was chilling in Scandallo, there is a girl I saw walk by and I smiled at her. She stopped and started chatting, good English, and she was holding someone's hand I couldn't quite see in the dark party atmosphere. There was another girl and I was tripping, she was her identical twin sister.
I invited both girls to sit with me and have a drink. They were from Paraguay, I was sitting in the middle and each girl sat on one side, one girl started touching me another flirting.
They said everything is identical boobs, pussy, face. Their dress sizes. It was like looking in a mirror both looked exactly the same.
I already had fucked 1 girl that night and was feeling satisfied but I had to do it.
The girls said you'll never get another chance.
I take them both to the room. Cost me total about 500460.
They take their clothes off and everything was the same. Big natural tits. Fat ass. Pussy.
1 thing freaked me out - 1 girl put her head on 2nd girl's shoulder. It looked like 1 body with 2 heads. I was scared. That image has scarred my brain LOL. 2 heads were staring at me and smiling like a monster LOL. It was ridiculous.
They had some kind of a psychic connection. One giving me BJ another kissing me. Switching over. I still couldn't believe myself and I was sober and tripping. It was insane.
Messed around a bit. It was after midnight and the girls announced it was their birthday!
I couldn't believe I fucked the twins on their birthday. I asked for proof and they showed me their ID and it was true. Their birthday was that day really. Their age was wrong. I said you're now 34 yo. You lied about being 24 yo. They both started laughing and told I was very smart.
This is an experience I'd never forget in my life. How many of you have fucked identical twins?
I went to Scandallo 3 nights and 1-2 girls per night. 300460. Beautiful women 10/10.
Casarao. The wall of purses.
This is the club which I compare similar to FKK Sharks. Similar pricing, local clientele. High turnover. The girls wear tight dresses with soft material hugging their tight asses with soft skin. How tight? I put my finger on their dress and slide up a bit and it exposes their bare ass wearing panties.
That's my favorite thing to do, I'm waiting with my girl in line and I touch her dress just barely with my finger and it slides up exposing her bare ass. She quickly brings it down and says "Shtopi" not out here.
I love casarao, let me describe the love hotel a bit. It's name is "Smart Hotel", there is a wall of purses. The girls put their bags in this wall open compartment guarded by a manager. Literally that rack is a full wall from floor to ceiling. It has like a 100 bags but every single girl is able to find their bag, it's a miracle.
Casarao opens at 10 pm and closes at 6 am. When I arrive at 10 am in the Smart Hotel the girl's are still in their casual night clothes and doing their hair and makeup getting ready for the business. It gets pumping at midnight and 6 am I take my last girl to Smart Hotel and then stay there and come out it's dawn.
I party the whole night. Multiple days. Go in at night come out during the day. It's insane.
I pull girl after girl almost do like 7-8 girls / night. 30 mins session. It's awesome. The love hotel manager know me as I always request the bigger newer rooms.
The system in casarao is mind blowing, you meet and negotiate with the girl there itself, then you walk out of the club to go to the love motel next door, wait in line get a room, watch other mongers making out with their girls. It's exciting.
How many girls did I fuck at Casarao? I went there 6 out of 7 nights. 4-5 girls / night, I went even though I was tired and sleepy, last couple days were all nighter. 100430.
Gauguin -.
This is a building made for fucking. Polish nightclub, well dressed hot women, a bunch of 10's. Beautiful girls. I med a 100% redhead aka Ruiva. She not only had red hair, red eyebrows, red pubes. She said she's 1% in the world for being natural redhead. Awesome sex. She recommended me some good restaurants like Lassu, I checked it out the next day, find dining Italian with revolving floor so you can get full 360 view of Sao Paulo from the 35th floor. 250460 with DFK.
Next day I came to Gauguin again because I really wanted to fuck a young Loira (aka blonde). Her name was Giovanna, she was there and I caught her, off to the room she was only 20 yo. So sweet so feminine, I just enjoyed teasing her as "Safada" (naughty funny) and played around with her. Amazing - 250460 with DFK.
Clinicas. Day time adventure.
Well I'm not done yet. Let's talk about clinicas. Day time massage places also double as a brothel. Really clean with rooms and hot shower. Girls LU for you. It's called "Presentacion". I walk in and request a "Presentacion". The girls come one after the other kiss the men in the waiting room on both cheeks "chu chu" and say "Prazzer" aka nice to meet you. They are 50430 or 80460 room included. Beautiful women walk bouncing in heels and tell me their name and I can't concentrate with all the hotness LOL. Abbobora in Moema is my favorite one. Always find a new hottie to bang there.
Clinicas are best for people who don't feel like interacting in a night club environment and just want to see LU and have a quickie fun.
4 Clinicas are located in Moema area in SP what I like to call a 10 min walking tour. Abbobora (30 girls) - Prime (10 girls) - 57 friends (10 girls) - Miruna (10 girls). There are a lot more clinicas but they are out of scope for this report.
When I selected a girl and was walking to the room. I saw the door open of the girl's room, it was a huge hall with beds lying on the floor, these girls come from poor villages nearby and sleep in the common area, they live there, get called when men show up and go back to their humble dwelling in this casa.
That's a wrap on Brazil.
Frankfurt. More like Darmstadt + Bad Homburg.
This was a quick 4 day trip.
Arrived on 5/7 it was a quiet Thursday. Sonja was there, she hung out with me for a long time, we chatted about globe, Romania, smaller brothels and rich men who rent her for the day.
5/8 was a better Friday 150+ girls not many new faces. But looked like they've returned from their Easter break. Saw Simona, Rahel, Olivia, Chantal, Nikki, Francesca, Rosella, that tall short hair girl, Sylvana. The LU was by far the largest. Saturday 5/9 the LU went down, I heard, although I was at Oase.
5/9 was a sunny Saturday, Oase had the outdoor area open. This is what I came for, I love FKKs in the summer, you can swim naked in the huge pool. At the locker room, a German dude called out to me "I know you, you were at Sharks yesterday", I was recognized. The entry before 2 pm was 50 EUR.
I swam in the pool at Oase, the water was cold and I didn't care if I got sick, where in the world do you get a chance like this. Got out of the water took a German MILF to the room skinny woman, good fuck, Came out showered and again chilled in the pool just floating on a inflatable floatie. Went back inside had a chubby Hungarian blonde, fucked her good. Chilled more, time for food, they had pasta and coconut soup and bread and fruit. Pizza was coming on soon. I like their food and restaurant. Jumped into the hot tub for some jacuzzi. Got out fucked a German girl, Laura.
Laura. Best sex of her life.
It's fun when you give a girl a good time without intending for it. I know what IOP is and this was no IOP.
New 23 yo, German girl at Oase, pierced tongue, pierced nipple, all natural, great personality. 100430. Best room of her life with DFK.
I fucked her for half hour did all the usual stuff, she was cumming and I could feel her pussy contracting. She just held on to me and wanted me to fuck more. She wouldn't let go, it was like fucking an amateur. Like intimate girlfriend.
I just finished and lay in bed and she started cuddling. And I got hard again, put on a condom and started fucking her 2nd time. Said I'd pay her for 2 sessions. 200460 with DFK. Man this was my 3rd room and I came twice. Holy shit. She gave me her number like she wanted me to be her husband. She said it's the best sex of her life and my face is so cute. LOL.
One more German girl at Oase.
Another tall German girl 20 yo with natural tits relatively big for her frame. 100430 no kissing average service but Def Opti / Physi fuck.
Alright alright alright Sharks -.
They had their usual potatoes on Friday. French fries, spring rolls, rice, pasta, coffee machine.
They changed the water coolers. Finally. Both restaurant side and sauna side. That's the difference I noticed since last visit in Feb.
Dieter still walking around every hour going cling cling, . Cling cling.
Fact about me. I've never been inside a sauna in my life. Never. Not at Sharks, wellcum, Oase, Globe anywhere in my life and yet I love Sauna clubs.
Ailleen was there tall Austrian girl. She got fat. It's fun to see these girls in broad daylight. The outdoor area in Sharks was open and I was lying on the poolside. Ailleen walks out, I look at her white skin. I point out she has veiny boobs. She laughs and says my skin is not white it's transparent. I banged Ailleen 100430 with kissing.
Olivia I did fuck. 150430 with DFK. Session started great but in the middle she got mad at me for sweating on her and I left.
Simona and her saggy tits I fucked her150430 with kissing but her hand on the condom was a bit turn off.
Highlight of the trip was a bit older silicon tits slim white Romanian sits at the German corner. Holy shit 100430 with DFK. I did 2 sessions with her on separate days and she was awesome. "You make me so horny" she said in a Romanian accent.
Another girl I met natural boobs, blonde hair, blue eyes Romanian sits on the bar facing the pole. Great sweetheart like a housewifey. 100430. Really fun to talk to. She was a ballerina and showed me some moves.
Lexi, really young looking 20 yo blonde hair, slim figure all natural. I went with her. No kissing but no hand on condom blocking either. Average service 100430. She was very popular apparently. Looks wise really pretty face. Sits at the pole.
Ada sits on the couches opposite the aquarium (not below). Relatively big natural tits, a flower branch tattoo from her left arm to her left chest. She's a mom of 1 but her pussy was surprisingly tight. Vaginal rejuvenation. 100430.
I had 2-3 rooms where the girls were bad service. 1 ex-Oase met in Sharks, she constantly upselled me for 150 when I already negotiated 100430 standard outside. Her service was crap and I left early. Same strategy for a few others. If I don't feel the connection or find hand on condom or other shenanigans I just leave. My mood is more important then 100.
1 girl I had a unique experience with we go in the room and she demands money upfront. I said it's in the lockers and she grabs my hands and starts dragging me out. I said I'll pay after but she doesn't budge. I left her saying I don't feel the connection. In my age, I feel a woman should be bubbly and agreeable, I don't like this masculine money making mechanical personalities and rather stay away from these bitches.
Rosella I did 150430 with DFK. She mentioned the girls had vanished for 1 HR because there was a meeting with the boss. Bravo sharks management of choosing to have a meeting at the busiest time on a Friday night. The entire club was empty and you could only see men. Funny how the clubs looks filled with a sea of men when there are no beauties walking around.
Heleni sat on the arm chair on the front couches smoking her usual cigarette / vaping device. I took her 100430. She says she can squat 150 kg, strong legs, I don't believe her.
Overall was a great trip tried some new girls and some old favorites.
Don't ask me which is better. Sao Paulo vs Germany. I'll just say I'm afraid to say my honest opinion because after all this is FKK forum. I'll just state a fact. In the last 11 months when I first went to Brazil. Total trip stats are a tie 5 vs 5.
Months I was in Brazil - 07/25, 09/25, 10/25, 03/26, 04/26.
Months I was in Germany - 08/25, 11/25, 01/25, 02/25, 05/25.
No further trips planned. I need to go on a Hiatus from mongering. But I'll be back. Stay tuned.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]Highlight. I fucked Identical twin sisters. Yup I did it. I was chilling in Scandallo, there is a girl I saw walk by and I smiled at her. She stopped and started chatting, good English, and she was holding someone's hand I couldn't quite see in the dark party atmosphere. There was another girl and I was tripping, she was her identical twin sister. I invited both girls to sit with me and have a drink. They were from Paraguay, I was sitting in the middle and each girl sat on one side, one girl started touching me another flirting. They said everything is identical boobs, pussy, face. Their dress sizes. It was like looking in a mirror both looked exactly the same. I already had fucked 1 girl that night and was feeling satisfied but I had to do it. The girls said you'll never get another chance. I take them both to the room. Cost me total about 500460. They take their clothes off and everything was the same. Big natural tits. Fat ass. Pussy. 1 thing freaked me out - 1 girl put her head on 2nd girl's shoulder. It looked like 1 body with 2 heads. I was scared. That image has scarred my brain LOL. 2 heads were staring at me and smiling like a monster LOL. It was ridiculous.
They had some kind of a psychic connection. One giving me BJ another kissing me. Switching over. I still couldn't believe myself and I was sober and tripping. It was insane. Messed around a bit. It was after midnight and the girls announced it was their birthday! I couldn't believe I fucked the twins on their birthday. I asked for proof and they showed me their ID and it was true. Their birthday was that day really. Their age was wrong. I said you're now 34 yo. You lied about being 24 yo. They both started laughing and told I was very smart. This is an experience I'd never forget in my life. How many of you have fucked identical twins?[/QUOTE]I had a chance to fuck identical twins before. It was in Panama. I only went with one of them, and figured I dodged a bullet because she turned out to be a liar about her services and was a disappointing fuck. I figure if I had taken her sister too it would have been doubly bad LOL! But why are you quoting prices for Brazilian establishments in Euros? And writing a long report about FKK Sharks in the Sao Paulo thread instead of in the FKK Sharks thread where FKK aficianados would appreciate it the most?
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but what are the top 3-5 massage clinics that are a must try and under $100 for a session with natural oral paid as an extra? There are a ton of spots and I see many different ones listed all the time and have asked other guys in person in meddy what they like but everyones answer is different. Just curious if there are certain standout ones to go to versus others?
Already posted in FKK reddit and in fact I'm being requested to take it down because people are afraid of price hikes in the hidden gem of Sao Paulo.
People don't understand economics. It will NOT cause a price hike, even if the whole world finds out about SP due to geographical distance and language barrier and the infinite supply of Garotas and chill attitude of the law towards hobbying.
Crossposting it here because it has important information which SP newbies / first time trip planners can benefit from. I sound like JD Vance talking to Zelensky but how about Thank you for posting this report instead of criticizing about price conversion to BRLs. Sorry I couldn't take the time to edit the report catered specially for this forum. Something's better than nothing right.
I really enjoy reading the threads in ISG, and do my best to give back. If you don't like my reports, I'm perfectly fine keeping my amazing experiences to myself. I don't have to post. I already have all the information I need, and I don't get off on making other people jealous, tbh couldn't care less.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3066123]But why are you quoting prices for Brazilian establishments in Euros? And writing a long report about FKK Sharks in the Sao Paulo thread instead of in the FKK Sharks thread where FKK aficianados would appreciate it the most?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066259]Already posted in FKK reddit and in fact I'm being requested to take it down because people are afraid of price hikes in the hidden gem of Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Hidden gem? Scandallo has been one of the greatest if not the greatest club in the world for hobbying. This is the International Sex Guide after all.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066259]Crossposting it here because it has important information which SP newbies / first time trip planners can benefit from. I sound like JD Vance talking to Zelensky but how about Thank you for posting this report instead of criticizing about price conversion to BRLs. Sorry I couldn't take the time to edit the report catered specially for this forum. Something's better than nothing right.
I really enjoy reading the threads in ISG, and do my best to give back. If you don't like my reports, I'm perfectly fine keeping my amazing experiences to myself. I don't have to post. I already have all the information I need, and I don't get off on making other people jealous, tbh couldn't care less.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you had the best intentions. People like to write a lot about their adventures. Everyone understands that and is cool with that. However, telling the Sao Paulo board about your adventures in Germany won't fly. Such posts always get criticized by members. It's just best to say "sorry, my bad".
I'm glad you have had some nice mongering trips around the world. I hope you keep posting.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066259]Something's better than nothing right. I really enjoy reading the threads in ISG, and do my best to give back. If you don't like my reports, I'm perfectly fine keeping my amazing experiences to myself. I don't have to post. I already have all the information I need.[/QUOTE]No, sometimes nothing can be better than something. I can't remember how many times I've felt like telling somebody, "No, please don't try to help me". You have to know your audience and make it relevant to them. And, I have liked your reports when you put up a good one. I put one in the RODs for crying out loud! Nobody else here did that. But since then, you've been erratic and all over the place. What I really don't like is when someone puts up wrong information, like the girls working at Scandallo are the same ones working at Casarao. Then when pressed, you admitted that per your experience you saw only 5. That doesn't support the oft repeated (but incorrect) claim that all the same girls are working at both places (always asserted only by guys who just don't want to pay Scandallo prices). Many of us have been here a very long time. This is a place for sharing relevant, useful, and accurate information. And it helps when it can be entertaining too! If you can't do that or don't want to do that, then the forum will continue on and prosper as it always has. It's bigger than any one person. And I can assure you that we too have all the information we need. Good luck!
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066259]Already posted in FKK reddit and in fact I'm being requested to take it down because people are afraid of price hikes in the hidden gem of Sao Paulo.
People don't understand economics. It will NOT cause a price hike, even if the whole world finds out about SP due to geographical distance and language barrier and the infinite supply of Garotas and chill attitude of the law towards hobbying.
Crossposting it here because it has important information which SP newbies / first time trip planners can benefit from. I sound like JD Vance talking to Zelensky but how about Thank you for posting this report instead of criticizing about price conversion to BRLs. Sorry I couldn't take the time to edit the report catered specially for this forum. Something's better than nothing right.
I really enjoy reading the threads in ISG, and do my best to give back. If you don't like my reports, I'm perfectly fine keeping my amazing experiences to myself. I don't have to post. I already have all the information I need, and I don't get off on making other people jealous, tbh couldn't care less.[/QUOTE]+1 that this was absolutely a great post. The SP vs FKK compare and contrast is valuable to many folks. Great detailed report and pretty spot on in your characterizations. Keep it coming.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.
Where do I begin oh boy there is a lot to unpack.
Let's start with Brazil. The city is Sao Paulo, it's a major hub largest city with max population in Latin America and world cuisine, gourmet food, michellin star restaurants. And of course ultra modern luxurious sex entertainment.
I'll try my best to break down the scene in Brazil. It is mind blowing. Girls.[/QUOTE]Lots of good information. Thank you!
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3066327]Perhaps you had the best intentions. People like to write a lot about their adventures. Everyone understands that and is cool with that. However, telling the Sao Paulo board about your adventures in Germany won't fly. Such posts always get criticized by members. It's just best to say "sorry, my bad".[/QUOTE]That's how Steve handled it when he was new here and making long ass posts about London in the Brazil threads, which was not appreciated by some. And look at the valuable contributor he has long since become?
Any of the clubs have a coat check? I'm looking at the weather for next week and it seems like it's cold and rainy. I enjoy leaving the table and walking around the club to spot talent from time to time, and I hate carrying a jacket around.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3066374]That's how Steve handled it when he was new here and making long ass posts about London in the Brazil threads, which was not appreciated by some. And look at the valuable contributor he has long since become![/QUOTE]That was supposed to be an exclamation, not a question mark.
Thats awesome.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.
Where do I begin oh boy there is a lot to unpack.
Let's start with Brazil. The city is Sao Paulo, it's a major hub largest city with max population in Latin America and world cuisine, gourmet food, michellin star restaurants. And of course ultra modern luxurious sex entertainment.
I'll try my best to break down the scene in Brazil. It is mind blowing. Girls are a fucking 10/10. Great service with Brazilian passion and DFK..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3065779]As long as it is above 4, vagabundo is killing it in Brazil.
50 minutes in medias res.
Playing chris isaak.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3066374]That's how Steve handled it when he was new here and making long ass posts about London in the Brazil threads, which was not appreciated by some. And look at the valuable contributor he has long since become?[/QUOTE]I agree. The Brazil portion of the report was decent but I would have preferred the Germany part to be posted in the FKK or Germany section.
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3066407]Any of the clubs have a coat check? I'm looking at the weather for next week and it seems like it's cold and rainy. I enjoy leaving the table and walking around the club to spot talent from time to time, and I hate carrying a jacket around.[/QUOTE]Yes Scandallo (as expected) has a coat check. U can also check luggage. This is a great play because most flights back home are 10 pm or later. So you can checkout of your hotel and hit Scan and check your luggage there. And then just grab and head to the airport fully fucked out!
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.
.[/QUOTE]Helluva good report!!
Thanks for comparing both. I haven't been to an FKK so it was good to read.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3066582]Yes Scandallo (as expected) has a coat check. U can also check luggage. This is a great play because most flights back home are 10 pm or later. So you can checkout of your hotel and hit Scan and check your luggage there. And then just grab and head to the airport fully fucked out![/QUOTE]Thanks! I depart at night but unfortunately on Sunday. Will have to pass time at some of the other clinics that are open.
This is good advice. It's punter 101 because it applies in every case, especially with girls you don't know very well.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3064755]Just sharing my experience with bros that spend a lot of time thinking how to get a hot sexy garota into your airbnb. Have a plan for getting her ass out of your place. Consider when shit goes south in the airbnb. she changes the deal or refuses to leave quietly, demands more money.. You been warned . The garotas are savvy too. its no violence against women month.. And she knows when foreigners don't want a messy situation, esp if your not fluent in rapid brasilian porto slang..Stay safe & party on and enjoy brasil[/QUOTE]
For the foristas hitting up Moema, here is a few local Moema "clinicas" within walking distance. Most of these spots run the **tablet game**—meaning you're picking your Garota off a screen or they do a quick in-person lineup only, no fotos in advance.
The play here is simple: if you want to stay off the digital radar. No Uber needed, no ID checks, no need to use your credit card, write down address and keep your iPhone tucked away at your homebase in moema (airbnb, hotel, apartment) , no need to bring your iphone.
These are places to. Just walk in, pick your **Garota of Choice (GoC)* pay in cold hard BRL cash, cash has same discount as paying by Pix.
While you're behind closed doors, get her to add your number to her WhatsApp and Instagram profile. Set up a private less expensive hookup for later—it's cheaper, longer, and way more fun if she & her amigas float your boat. Kkk after paying everyone in cash. Smile. Then, just bounce back out the door into that grey cold São Paulo rain. (shiver).
Personally I'm not into the tablet system, instagram filters change a garotas features, weight, hair color, etc. These clinicas are within 30 min or less walking distance in Moema and not often cited are in many Moema reports. If you want the real deep dive in a place. Easy peasy. Review each clinica named on GP-Guia. Their address and names pop upnl on Google maps or have whatsapp number. . Alway chatbl them up on WhatsApp before you head out to make sure the garotas are actually *them casa" (in the house) and not *a caminho" (stuck in traffic). And they explain their tablet system and pricing.
The "Right Around the Corner" Spots (5 to 15 min walk).
*CLínica Carinás: Av. Dos Carinás, 439.
*Sirius Spa: Av. Dos Imarés, 330.
*Luminna Spa: Av. Dos Nhambiquaras, 2076. (No tablet**—real ones know).
*Moema Spa: Av. Aratãs, 677.
*Lakshmi SPA: Av. Moaci, 556.
*Spa Moah: Av. Moaci, 885. (No tablet*.
*EnjoySpa: Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279. (No tablet*.
The "Stretch Your Legs" Spots (10–30 min walk).
Baronesas Spa: are. Baronesa de Bela Vista, 471.
Red Massagem: Av. Moema, 841.
Bali Spa: are. Baronesa de Bela Vista, 12.
MEL FIRE: Av. Moema, 729. (Fetish onlyhere).
Taj Mahal Spa: are. Min. Gabriel de Rezende Passos, 336.
CLínica Indy: Av. Indianópolis, 2201.
CLínica Cherry: are. Pascal, 2019.
Stay safe, keep it low-key, get your money's worth, share your experience. I purposely left out the top 10 moema places frequently mentioned in reports.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I take them both to the room. Cost me total about 500460.[/QUOTE]Very nice report indeed, as I plan to go to SP this year.
But what is this notation '500460' ?
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;3067057]Very nice report indeed, as I plan to go to SP this year.
But what is this notation '500460' ?[/QUOTE]Indeed it's a very nice report. 500460 probably means 500 Euro for 60 minutes.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3067004]
Stay safe, keep it low-key, get your money's worth, share your experience. I purposely left out the top 10 moema places frequently mentioned in reports.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list. Since I am staying Moema, will have to try some places.
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;3067057]Very nice report indeed, as I plan to go to SP this year.
But what is this notation '500460' ?[/QUOTE]$500 (or €) for 60 minutes.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3066846]This is good advice. It's punter 101 because it applies in every case, especially with girls you don't know very well.[/QUOTE]Agree. Thankfully it rarely happens, but occasionally you have a catfish, the girl wants the $$ upfront, or she changes some other critical part of the deal. I've found the best action is to keep very calm, put valuable things away and wait her out, offering a certain amount that you may increase. If you escalate, then she will escalate, and of course anything physical (I. E. Pushing her out) could be construed in a negative way against you.
Is Scandallo open on Sundays? According to Google Maps they are open 4-4. But their website doesn't mention anything about Sunday. And I can't find anything here about their hours.
[QUOTE=Delarian;3067195]Is Scandallo open on Sundays? According to Google Maps they are open 4-4. But their website doesn't mention anything about Sunday. And I can't find anything here about their hours.[/QUOTE]Scandallo is closed on Sundays.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3067225]Scandallo is closed on Sundays.[/QUOTE]OK. Thanks. That's what I thought. I got a little excited thinking that maybe they changed their hours. Looks like O'Malley's and then Casarao it is for Sunday night.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.
Where do I begin oh boy there is a lot to unpack.
Let's start with Brazil. The city is Sao Paulo, it's a major hub largest city with max population in Latin America and world cuisine, gourmet food, michellin star restaurants. And of course ultra modern luxurious sex entertainment.
I'll try my best to break down the scene in Brazil. It is mind blowing. Girls are a fucking 10/10. Great service with Brazilian passion and DFK.[/QUOTE]Awesome report. Seems like you had an amazing time. You are a good story teller. Keep it coming.
Miruna- Had about five girls and they were booked pretty fast. R350 per HR.
Taj Mahal- Messaged through Whatsapp and didn't find the girls attractive enough. R640 per HR.
Moema Spa- Message through Whatsapp but didn't find the girls attractive. R500 per HR.
Tangar- Too many customers and all girls are below 5. Didn't even ask for the price and left.
Sharon Premium- Too many trans and girls were ok.
Lummina Spa- Finally. Picked the girl and in the room, she wanted R200 for BJ. I just got up and told her that I will be picking someone else.
The girl apologized saying that she was new and didn't know the rules. Went back to the lobby but didn't want to session anymore so left shortly after.
This never happened to me before so really caught me off guard. R450 per HR.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3067386]
Lummina Spa- Finally. Picked the girl and in the room, she wanted R200 for BJ. I just got up and told her that I will be picking someone else.
The girl apologized saying that she was new and didn't know the rules. Went back to the lobby but didn't want to session anymore so left shortly after.
This never happened to me before so really caught me off guard. R450 per HR.[/QUOTE]Well done! I would have done the same. Did you pay?
Sunday Night Session at Casarão – Newbie Jackpot.
Sunday Night, 01:00 AM.
Casarão, São Paulo.
Damage: 500 BRL (Negotiated from 600).
GoC (Garota of Choice): Emily (Amazonian Morena).
Hit up Casarão Sunday night around 1:00 AM. Honestly, I wasn't expecting much—Sundays are usually pretty "low energy" . In my opinion It felt like a total GDP (Garotas de Programa) Newbie Night. The basement bar was flooded with fresh new faces from the interior—Minas Gerais, Goiás, you name it. Definitely a refreshing change of pace from the usual rotation.
I ran into Emily, a 19-year-old absolute tall sexy Amazon of a morena originally from Amazonia. Kkk. She's got that tall, curvy "Amazonian goddess" curves and a massive Instagram following (1 M+ range). We'the hooked up here once before but lost touch; the chemistry was still 10/10.
She was stunning in a white sheer dress that left zero to the imagination.
She asked for 600 BRL. I did a quick counter at 500 BRL, and she bit.
Emily has "Gen Z IG Model" energy. The.
These garotas are addicted to the iphone lens. There was a lot of selfie-taking.
We headed to the hotel. I specifically requested Room #2 from the staff. Pro tip: I actually prefer this one over the renovated rooms. It's situated perfectly opposite the mirrored wall and couch, right next to the "wall of purses. ".
Once inside, the selfie marathon continued. She knows she's fire and isn't shy about it. Turns out, she's a regular on the swing circuit. She and her girlfriend frequents Inner Club and HotBar in Moema. She lives with her blonde 19-year-old bi-girlfriend.
Emily is a total uninhibited freak in the sheets. With a few minutes left on the clock, she hopped on a WhatsApp video call with her girlfriend, Monica. I got a front-row seat to a private "live show" as they both pleased themselves on camera. Absolute madness. *Kkk*, she definitely loves sexy pretty women as much as I do!
We're already planning a follow-up at Motel Swing (near Inne and near Espacolio Morumbi spa) because they have those wild furniture setups / contraptions.
Also, quick shoutout to Carol from Caster Club—a 21-year-old morena with green eyes and bronzed skin I met for two hour session after Emily. She was equally delightful.
Sunday night was nice time for fresh talent. Prices and experiences vary, obviously, but the "Newbie Night" was definitely peaking this week.
Stay safe out there, fellas.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3067510]Well done! I would have done the same. Did you pay?[/QUOTE]No, did not pay.
This never happened before and really surprised me.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3067527]No, did not pay.
This never happened before and really surprised me.[/QUOTE]Can you say the name she goes by? Just as a warning because I've been wanting to check out Lumina. You can also DM if that's better.
BTW, Sundays and Mondays are worst for daytime fun time. Prime usually has the best line-up on Sundays.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3067525]Sunday Night Session at Casaro Newbie Jackpot.
Sunday Night, 01:00 AM.
Casaro, So Paulo.
Damage: 500 BRL (Negotiated from 600).
GoC (Garota of Choice): Emily (Amazonian Morena).
Hit up Casaro Sunday night around 1:00 AM. Honestly, I wasn't expecting muchSundays are usually pretty "low energy" . In my opinion It felt like a total GDP (Garotas de Programa) Newbie Night. The basement bar was flooded with fresh new faces from the interiorMinas Gerais, Gois, you name it. Definitely a refreshing change of pace from the usual rotation.
I ran into Emily, a 19-year-old absolute tall sexy Amazon of a morena originally from Amazonia. Kkk. She's got that tall, curvy "Amazonian goddess" curves and a massive Instagram following (1 M+ range). We'the hooked up here once before but lost touch; the chemistry was still 10/10.
She was stunning in a white sheer dress that left zero to the imagination.
She asked for 600 BRL. I did a quick counter at 500 BRL, and she bit.
Emily has "Gen Z IG Model" energy. The.
These garotas are addicted to the iphone lens. There was a lot of selfie-taking.
We headed to the hotel. I specifically requested Room #2 from the staff. Pro tip: I actually prefer this one over the renovated rooms. It's situated perfectly opposite the mirrored wall and couch, right next to the "wall of purses. ".
Once inside, the selfie marathon continued. She knows she's fire and isn't shy about it. Turns out, she's a regular on the swing circuit. She and her girlfriend frequents Inner Club and HotBar in Moema. She lives with her blonde 19-year-old bi-girlfriend.
Emily is a total uninhibited freak in the sheets. With a few minutes left on the clock, she hopped on a WhatsApp video call with her girlfriend, Monica. I got a front-row seat to a private "live show" as they both pleased themselves on camera. Absolute madness. *Kkk*, she definitely loves sexy pretty women as much as I do!
We're already planning a follow-up at Motel Swing (near Inne and near Espacolio Morumbi spa) because they have those wild furniture setups / contraptions.
Also, quick shoutout to Carol from Caster Cluba 21-year-old morena with green eyes and bronzed skin I met for two hour session after Emily. She was equally delightful.
Sunday night was nice time for fresh talent. Prices and experiences vary, obviously, but the "Newbie Night" was definitely peaking this week.
Stay safe out there, fellas.[/QUOTE]Was there as well, saw Emily a few times. My first time in SP, was impressed with Casarao since I heard it was lesser than Scand Gaugin Cafe.
Touchdown 10 pm on Wednesday the 20th race to the hotel, quick shower and off to Scandallo.
Cover I believe was 900 (don't quote me on that I got pretty trashed) and the place was packed! There was a singer so I guess it attracted the masses. Women from wall to wall. The main area was too crowded, so I made my base camp at the main entrance bar and would walk around from time to time, but that area gives you a good vantage point of the women coming and going from the other areas.
Start drinking gin and hedgybull to wake my ass up after a 14 hour flight, two drinks in this hot carioca named Natalia sits next to me. With the iconic carioca tan lines I knew we'd have to go upstairs.
We got upstairs and there was a wait for about 20 minutes. All good had another round and off we went.
She started off at 2 k I countered at 1200 we settle on $1500 to her and the normal room fee to the house. Smoke show in bed.
Made my way back down. 2nd girl Paulistana Natiely started off at 2 k, did the deed for 1200. A little wait again for the room.
It's 5 am and I took my drunk ass back to the hotel.
Now. After the first night things got a little fuzzy as I was day drinking and night drinking, and if the price was left out it's on purpose because I simply don't remember.
Next day Thursday 21st, wake up and make my way to baroness. Very nice spot, with a decent lineup. Choose a nice blondie, man can she fuck! End the session, exchange numbers and before I leave I asked her if she's into women, with a devilish smile she responds "eu amo". I suggested that we should connect later that evening and she said cool. Hos being hos and flaky I didn't think much of it and made my way to esch cafe ate some lunch smoked a nice charuto, and much to my surprise she hits me up and asks what my evening plans where? I told her to meet me at my hotel at 9 to have a few drinks and we'd go from there. She quotes me 2 k for the night I counter at 1500 and she accepts. So after a few drinks and dinner I lay the plan on her to go to scandallo and she is totally down.
This is the first time I've gone on the hunt with a wingwomen, and mannnnnnn I don't know if I can ever do wingmen again. Something about having a sexy women next to you makes you the hunted and not the hunter.
We got to scandallo at about 12 and again packed wall to wall. Grab a drink at the main area bar, make a quick lap and settle down and the first bar to the right by the elevator. Have a few more drinks and this sexy sexy sexxxyyyy young blonde sits across the bar from us. My girl likes her and I think she likes my girl because every time I look at her she's looking our way and not at me but at my wingwoman. I go grab her hand and walk her over to us. We proceed to drink together for the next hour, all there of us feeling each other up taking shots three way kissing. Amazing times, I could've left right then and there and I would've been content, but I wondered what her pussy looked like, I don't know why but I always wonder what pussys look like. She starts off at 2500 I talk her down to 1500. And off we go. One hour of pure fucking bliss. These two are going at it while I'm fucking one and then switch. 69 ing each other while I'm doggyfucking one and crescendoed to me busting a nut in both of their mouths and them cumswapping and guzzling every last drop of it. What the fuck just happened!
It's about 4 am, me and my lady head back to the hotel, where we proceed to fuck for another few hours. A goodbye kiss and slap on the ass, and she's out. For now.
Friday 22nd. Wake up and the hamster on the wheel is already turning. Chose palms and off we go. Dude in the front speaks good English, forgot his name, super helpful. Recommends Isis. She's hot, slender, all natural. While I was there saw a few garotas coming and going and they all looked good!!
Did the deed and headed to Esch for lunch and charuto (this has become a routine).
I got a date at night with a seeking girl I chatted with the last time I was in SP in December but never actually met. She had suggested a show called Luminescence at the Cathedral the Se. Picked her up had a few drinks at this cool bank fault bar near the cathedral and off we went to the show. It was an amazing visual experience, highly recommended. Had some sushi at Hom Maguro Jardins, very very good sushi and I'm a sushi snob, and off to the hotel for a night full of fucking until the sun came up. Called her an uber and off she went. No money was exchanged.
Saturday 5/23. Wake up and that fucking hamster is already at it. Make my way to lushness where the lady in the front tells me they have a two girl special, and I bite. Reluctantly. Pick fox and luana from the tablet. Scars from botched surgeries and baby's. They don't kiss each other, def don't lick each other and overall don't seem they even like each other. My fault not there's, I knew better than that (fucking hamster) Did the deed and I'm out. Guess where? Lunch, cigar and I got a text from my wingwoman, she wants to hang out.
Dinner at Tanit, bomb Spanish food. And off the Scandallo. Saturday night and this place is dead? Not only is it dead but getting quotes for 3 k? Fuck you say?
Women don't even want to negotiate 2-3 k and firm. I got a bottle (should've done this the first night) but at 90 are a gin it'll be better off financially on the long run.
Talked to some fine women, one morena for Fortaleza that had my girl drooling, but at 3 k not happening. Finally got a short thick girl down to 1500 and off we went. Decent fuck and even let me put it in her ass. But my girl really wasn't into her all that much.
Came back down and drank for another hour and decided to call it but didn't want to go back home yet. Decided to go to 300 sky bar where we proceeded to drink and dance the night away with a bunch of 20 year olds. Great fucking time! It's 5 am, both of us are shit faced, hoped in the uber and finger fucked all the way back to the hotel blasting Felipe Hhhhhhedddd. Fucked until 8 and gave her a big hug and a farewell kiss.
Sunday 24th, final day. The hamster is a little sluggish, but persistent. Options on Sunday are limited, but made my way over to Lumina Spa and picked Sol. Actual lineup no tablet. I believe she said she's from Paraguay. Quick fuck and after I busted I knew that I'd had enough. I believe it was 450 total. Back to the hotel packed my stuff. Went to Esch. Lunch, charuto and off to the airport.
Fuck, that was an action packed trip. SP is a cool spot. People are nice, food is amazing.
Scandallo. What can I say that hasn't been said already. Shout out to Ana at the reception desk before you go upstairs to the rooms. She remembered me from last time. I guess I'm doing something right!
But some of these girls that stand firm at these sky high prices end up just walking around all night. Oh well.
The massage scene is legit and I need to explore this more. Though next time I want to actually see the girls and not select from a tablet if possible.
I'm sure I left some stuff out, I'm typing this all from recollection.
But to summarize, I drank a lot and I fucked a lot and hope to be back soon!
Go get some!
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3067770]
But to summarize, I drank a lot and I fucked a lot and hope to be back soon!
[/QUOTE]Great report and an awesome way to spend a few days. I am looking forward to my trip end of June.
A thoroughly enjoyable read, Jsaxxon. OJne of the reasons I liked it was because I touched down at GRU on Thursday the 21st and some of your moves in town remind me of my own. A little bit. KKK. For example, I was caught in the rain one afternoon, so I ducked into Esch for a smoke and some shelter. They serve good coffee.
So far visited 2 clinicas (Sharon + the Palms) Gabo is the manager you were talking about at the Palms. He is a great guy, but I don't listen to his recommendations most of the time. His 1st recommendation to me several years ago was a Japanese Brazilian girl. She had a pretty face, but her solid, athletic Brazilian body was nothing like Japanese Japanese girls I love from my visits to Asia.
I know Isis, however, from a previous trip. She is a great girl with a superhot, slender, natural body. I was with her only once, but it was good. I was there this afternoon and I chose Cristal. All natural except for her tattoos.
I had the pleasure of Jade over at Sharon on Tuesday. That was a very good session, but at first she tried to upsell me on doing a 3-some with a tranny! No thanks, but I told her maybe another time and we got down to the business at hand.
Anyway, I need some afternoon diversion because all my nights are taken up by my favorite Scandallo girl. Last night for example we went to a great sushi joint called Kinoshita. It was really good and then we walked back to my hotel, drank some more wine, smoked more herb, and shagged while the Coco Chanel movie streamed in portuguese on Netflix. Good times! And I have 4 more weeks of this kind of fun to go. I have barely started.
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3067770]Touchdown 10 pm on Wednesday the 20th race to the hotel, quick shower and off to Scandallo.
Cover I believe was 900 (don't quote me on that I got pretty trashed) and the place was packed! There was a singer so I guess it attracted the masses. Women from wall to wall. The main area was too crowded, so I made my base camp at the main entrance bar and would walk around from time to time, but that area gives you a good vantage point of the women coming and going from the other areas.
Start drinking gin and hedgybull to wake my ass up after a 14 hour flight, two drinks in this hot carioca named Natalia sits next to me. With the iconic carioca tan lines I knew we'd have to go upstairs.
We got upstairs and there was a wait for about 20 minutes. All good had another round and off we went.
She started off at 2 k I countered at 1200 we settle on $1500 to her and the normal room fee to the house. Smoke show in bed.
Made my way back down. 2nd girl Paulistana Natiely started off at 2 k, did the deed for 1200. A little wait again for the room..[/QUOTE]
Quick note about Tangara and to a lesser extent Yankin. You mentioned there are too many customers. Most of the guys you see hanging around are not customers of the girls. They hang around the bar to drink and shoot the shit with the girls. Some of them are there for appointments. It can be off putting until you are used to it enough to ignore them. The upper tier places like those on your list offer more discretion and privacy, as well as better looking girls. Local professionals avoid places like Tangara, Chanel, Yankin, and Nova Ceci.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3067386]Miruna- Had about five girls and they were booked pretty fast. R350 per HR.
Taj Mahal- Messaged through Whatsapp and didn't find the girls attractive enough. R640 per HR.
Moema Spa- Message through Whatsapp but didn't find the girls attractive. R500 per HR.
Tangar- Too many customers and all girls are below 5. Didn't even ask for the price and left.
Sharon Premium- Too many trans and girls were ok.
Lummina Spa- Finally. Picked the girl and in the room, she wanted R200 for BJ. I just got up and told her that I will be picking someone else.
The girl apologized saying that she was new and didn't know the rules. Went back to the lobby but didn't want to session anymore so left shortly after..[/QUOTE]
First I want to thank all those who have posted some interesting things from the reports. I used to be a regular on this forum but mostly in Mx and some MDE. Due to my job, I had to step away and keep a low profile but those days are done. I am retired now and looking at some places to spend long vacations in. For SP, I am staying a minimum of a month and maybe longer if I like the place. In the reports I've read that you can buy a bottle and have the establishments hold on to a bottle if you had not finished it for another night. Question is, do they still charge you the cover fee again each night or does the bottle cover the cost if you buy something nice like JW Blue? I've been to Scandallo before but it was just over a weekend so I didn't buy a bottle. Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3068008]First I want to thank all those who have posted some interesting things from the reports. I used to be a regular on this forum but mostly in Mx and some MDE. Due to my job, I had to step away and keep a low profile but those days are done. I am retired now and looking at some places to spend long vacations in.[/QUOTE]And I totally understand as I was in the same boat. Now, you will be able to spend significant amounts of time in places you enjoy, and will be able to discover new countries (I'm in Portugal now for first time). The last time I was in Brazil, I stayed a month and traveled around the country. I will be doing the same later this year. Look forward to your reports!
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3068008]First I want to thank all those who have posted some interesting things from the reports. I used to be a regular on this forum but mostly in Mx and some MDE. Due to my job, I had to step away and keep a low profile but those days are done. I am retired now and looking at some places to spend long vacations in. For SP, I am staying a minimum of a month and maybe longer if I like the place. In the reports I've read that you can buy a bottle and have the establishments hold on to a bottle if you had not finished it for another night. Question is, do they still charge you the cover fee again each night or does the bottle cover the cost if you buy something nice like JW Blue? I've been to Scandallo before but it was just over a weekend so I didn't buy a bottle. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]You still pay the the same fees to enter, which is all consumable before 7 and has an extra cover after 7. The bottle is still your best deal because it's less per drink and it kinda gets you de facto VIP status. Like they will make sure you get a table in the club if you buy a bottle. You will of course attract girls that want to join you as well. So while it doesn't go against your consumable, all the Red Bull tropical and melancia you are buying will run thru it fast anyhow. 😁.
Note also you can eat at the restaurant if you have extra consumable. It's really good.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3068017]And I totally understand as I was in the same boat. Now, you will be able to spend significant amounts of time in places you enjoy, and will be able to discover new countries (I'm in Portugal now for first time). The last time I was in Brazil, I stayed a month and traveled around the country. I will be doing the same later this year. Look forward to your reports![/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm not a newbie in the the hobby but a noob in Brazil. This is my 3rd trip but one I don't have to rush back to the office. I'm trying to find how things operate in general with these ladies. Not a cheap charlie but I'm looking to see if I can get a couple of Favorites and negotiate a better deal as I have the option to stay up to an entire year. I also want to fully explore the other places like Rio and Floripa on long extended stays. Hope to meet up with you one day and pick your brains over some drinks or something. As for Portugal, I was there for a week in Lisbon and Porto. Short trip but didnt get a chance to explore the talent. One thing is I was surprised by how much English was spoken there.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3068089]You still pay the the same fees to enter, which is all consumable before 7 and has an extra cover after 7. The bottle is still your best deal because it's less per drink and it kinda gets you de facto VIP status. Like they will make sure you get a table in the club if you buy a bottle. You will of course attract girls that want to join you as well. So while it doesn't go against your consumable, all the Red Bull tropical and melancia you are buying will run thru it fast anyhow. 😁.
Note also you can eat at the restaurant if you have extra consumable. It's really good.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the answers. I agree on eating there as I don't drink that much as I used to. This will help me keep from getting too drunk on the drinks. As for sharing drinks with the girls, will I get a double charge? Meaning, I know the drinks for girls its a little extra but if they are drinking from my bottle do I get charged for them to drink as well?
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3068141]I appreciate the answers. I agree on eating there as I don't drink that much as I used to. This will help me keep from getting too drunk on the drinks. As for sharing drinks with the girls, will I get a double charge? Meaning, I know the drinks for girls its a little extra but if they are drinking from my bottle do I get charged for them to drink as well?[/QUOTE]No it's not like buying a ladies drink. It's like drinks amongst friends. Best to get a bottle of gin if you want the girls to drink w you. Get a bottle of tanqueray and five or six Red Bull tropical and melancia. You make them drinks right from your bottle. No extra charges.
Also when you have a bottle and mixers you are king of the world. Just grab a waiter and tell him you want to move to the patio or the club or the restaurant and he will bring all your stuff and grab you a table. It's very classy. It's a good idea to make friends with the waiters and bouncers. They are all super nice but it's better when they greet you like a friend. Maybe drop a 50 R to your main waiter guy at the end of the night.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3068162]No it's not like buying a ladies drink. It's like drinks amongst friends. Best to get a bottle of gin if you want the girls to drink w you. Get a bottle of tanqueray and five or six Red Bull tropical and melancia. You make them drinks right from your bottle. No extra charges.
Also when you have a bottle and mixers you are king of the world. Just grab a waiter and tell him you want to move to the patio or the club or the restaurant and he will bring all your stuff and grab you a table. It's very classy. It's a good idea to make friends with the waiters and bouncers. They are all super nice but it's better when they greet you like a friend. Maybe drop a 50 R to your main waiter guy at the end of the night.[/QUOTE]These are great tips! Will this work at the other places like Gauguin, Cafe Photo and Casarao?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3067983]A thoroughly enjoyable read, Jsaxxon. OJne of the reasons I liked it was because I touched down at GRU on Thursday the 21st and some of your moves in town remind me of my own. A little bit. KKK. For example, I was caught in the rain one afternoon, so I ducked into Esch for a smoke and some shelter. They serve good coffee.
So far visited 2 clinicas (Sharon + the Palms) Gabo is the manager you were talking about at the Palms. He is a great guy, but I don't listen to his recommendations most of the time. His 1st recommendation to me several years ago was a Japanese Brazilian girl. She had a pretty face, but her solid, athletic Brazilian body was nothing like Japanese Japanese girls I love from my visits to Asia.
I know Isis, however, from a previous trip. She is a great girl with a superhot, slender, natural body. I was with her only once, but it was good. I was there this afternoon and I chose Cristal. All natural except for her tattoos.
I had the pleasure of Jade over at Sharon on Tuesday. That was a very good session, but at first she tried to upsell me on doing a 3-some with a tranny! No thanks, but I told her maybe another time and we got down to the business at hand..[/QUOTE]I hope it was mentioned that the he she was a he she or did you discover this due to due diligence?
4 weeks? Man. I'd need a new liver
As I mentioned in my post and as others have reiterated, if you're doing Scandalo for a few nights during the trip the bottle is worth it. However. At 60 Rs a redbull your tab is still going to be high if that's your mixer of choice. And all the women loveee their hedgybull. Except the gym rats, they drink coco de verdade at 45 Rs. I'm looking at my first nights receipt as I write this. Man brings a smile to my face.
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3067770]Touchdown 10 pm on Wednesday the 20th race to the hotel, quick shower and off to Scandallo.
Cover I believe was 900 (don't quote me on that I got pretty trashed) and the place was packed! There was a singer so I guess it attracted the masses. Women from wall to wall. The main area was too crowded, so I made my base camp at the main entrance bar and would walk around from time to time, but that area gives you a good vantage point of the women coming and going from the
This is the first time I've gone on the hunt with a wingwomen, and mannnnnnn I don't know if I can ever do wingmen again. Something about having a sexy women next to you makes you the hunted and not the hunter.
Go get some![/QUOTE]This was an excellent report. I've found something similar in my own life. Instead of going out with a bunch of guys, I've had much better experiences with a social partner with benefits. From Scandallo to Gauguin to the Hot Bar scene, having an attractive social partner with benefits has been spectacular. Game changer. Calling her a "wingwoman" was odd -- social partner was better with Benefits.. change up depending of mood,
Other unique SP experiences to try Luminance you mentioned, Love Cabaret -wild adult erotic shows, Drone Art Show-very cool, afternoon trip to the beach 90 min drive, night tour of lights in botanical garden or other parks, roof top dining, tokyio bar for karoke -get private room & plenty o drinks, the line wraps around the block, the underground Eyes Wide Shut club- -shhh. if ya know you know.. the erotic luxury spa for couples that get fcking wild as shit..
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3068200]I hope it was mentioned that the he she was a he she or did you discover this due to due diligence?
4 weeks? Man. I'd need a new liver [/QUOTE]She was totally above board with her upsell. While we were getting acquainted and just talking and kissing, she asked straight away if I ever had sex with a tranny and when I said no, she asked if I was interested in trying a 3-way with her tranny "GF". She even showed me some pics of her friend and to close out the pitch, she described how the 2 of them would suck my dick simultaneously ect, ect, which by the way is a very enjoyable sex act when performed by 2 sexy Scan girls and I highly recommend it.
Anyway, I have spent decades mongering in LOS so ladyboys or trannys (there is a difference) don't bother me. I was just humoring the girl by letting he complete her sales pitch and I did not want to spoil the vibe before we had sexual congress, so I told her maybe next time, KKK, and we headed to the shower where she knelt on her knees and blew me the 1st time. The session was real good and I would not rule out shagging her again sometime although I have had my eye on 2 blond Sharon girls for 2 whole trips now and I have failed to hook up with them so I probably will have to make reservation if I want to see them.
My motto has always been the longer the better. My current visit is for 5+ weeks. This gives me time to get develop relationships with favorite girls and still have plenty of variety too. Pre-covid I used to spend 10 to 12 weeks mongering in SE Asia per trip. Presently Valeria and I are consuming a bottle of high-quality red wine / night + 1 or 2 cocktails when we go out to eat. Back at home I barely touch alcohol and I eat healthy and modestly.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3068301]She was totally above board with her upsell. While we were getting acquainted and just talking and kissing, she asked straight away if I ever had sex with a tranny and when I said no, she asked if I was interested in trying a 3-way with her tranny "GF". She even showed me some pics of her friend and to close out the pitch, she described how the 2 of them would suck my dick simultaneously ect, ect, which by the way is a very enjoyable sex act when performed by 2 sexy Scan girls and I highly recommend it.
Anyway, I have spent decades mongering in LOS so ladyboys or trannys (there is a difference) don't bother me. I was just humoring the girl by letting he complete her sales pitch and I did not want to spoil the vibe before we had sexual congress, so I told her maybe next time, KKK, and we headed to the shower where she knelt on her knees and blew me the 1st time. The session was real good and I would not rule out shagging her again sometime although I have had my eye on 2 blond Sharon girls for 2 whole trips now and I have failed to hook up with them so I probably will have to make reservation if I want to see them.
My motto has always been the longer the better. My current visit is for 5+ weeks. This gives me time to get develop relationships with favorite girls and still have plenty of variety too. Pre-covid I used to spend 10 to 12 weeks mongering in SE Asia per trip. Presently Valeria and I are consuming a bottle of high-quality red wine / night + 1 or 2 cocktails when we go out to eat. Back at home I barely touch alcohol and I eat healthy and modestly.[/QUOTE]How good is your Portuguese? 5 week trip I assume it's fluent otherwise it will be fluent by the time you're done haha.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3068563]How good is your Portuguese? 5 week trip I assume it's fluent otherwise it will be fluent by the time you're done haha.[/QUOTE]My Portuguese is a joke even though I have cumulatively spent over 50 weeks in Brazil since 2021. I even tried Duolingo for a couple of months. The only thing I retained from them was how to ace their tests. KKK.
The missus (Valeria) and I have our own special way of communicating which includes her limited English, my limited Portuguese, our combined limited Spanish and Google translate. Somehow it works. I just hoof it with other girls and use Google translate when necessary. So, don't get me wrong, I definitely think being bilingual is an advantage when mongering. For example, I was always impressed whenever I used to go barhopping with an old ISG buddy of mine who spoke fluent Thai. The reaction he would get from Go Go girls whenever he initiated a conversation in Thai was remarkable and could not be denied. But I managed to do pretty good in LOS anyway without being fluent. It's the same same for how I am getting along in Brazil. Bilingual would be better, but it is not necessary in order to have a good time with the girls.
I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]Firstly I am not sure 1000 is going to get it these days. Maybe it will but I'the expect 1200 may be more like it. Boots on the ground recently have a lot of girls standing firm on 1500. Personally never gone above 1200 and often go at 1000. Maybe it's my boyish good looks 😉 But wouldn't count on 1000.
That said, we don't go to Scan to save money and a few hundred Reis is noise. I usually end up dropping about 4000 R there per night (including two girls).
The most important part of the answer to your question is there is NOTHING to make a comparison to! Nowhere in the world can you find 150 super attractive girls ready to fuck in a luxe nightclub atmosphere. (And don't tell me FKK or Jakarta. I've done both. Good fun but no comparison). So "price per session" doesn't really matter because it's not just a session. It's the entire experience where fucking is prob one to two hours of a seven hour experience. (I've actually stayed as long as 15 hours there. LOL).
But OK most of us are from the USA or Europe. In the USA it's completely illegal so prices are very high. In fact I wouldn't even bother with a hooker. I do Seeking in the USA and best you can do is $300-500 USD.
Europe has gotten more expensive diva girls in UK are now 400 and up. Spain still a reasonable 200-250/ HR. Jakarta is 100% king of pricing at $22 USD/hr. LOL. Nothing even comes close. Thailand is now $150 ish for a gogo girl.
Given all that, Scan is an amazing value for what you get. Its not just about fucking. If it is then stick to the Clinicas (which I personally don't enjoy I love a club atmosphere).
Ps if u want a more affordable club try Casarao on a Wed-Sat when the big new area is open. After the remodel and when that section is open maybe 70% as fun for 1/2 the price.
PPS You have to go to Scan at least once. It will blow your fucking mind.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]You went all the way to SP and didn't go to Scandello to even check out what the hype was? Were you in town for work or was this a self sponsored trip to check out the clinicas? If you paid and came all the way to SP, why didn't you check out Scandello? You don't have to partake. But at least check out the venue. Which country are you from and is the mongering cheaper?
Personally, I live in the USA and mongering in the USA is trash. Brazil offers it all especially IOP. I haven't been to Colombia or the FKK but from what I have heard, it isn't much better. I don't like Asian girls so Asia is a total flop for me. I have mongered in Mexico and it isn't bad but it is nothing compared to the Brazilians.
For me the cost isn't an issue. I usually pay R1000-1200 for in house and R2000 for overnight. It is the atmosphere that I am attracted to. Like Steve9696 says, it is an afternoon to all night affair when I go. I don't have access to anything like that in the USA or anywhere else for that matter, so Scandello it is!!
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]It's illegal where I live so I don't bother. The most I have given a woman in Scandallo is 1200 R, which a few months ago. I generally give them my price and that's it. No "bargaining" back and forth.
I'd concur with the other posters that you should have at least checked it out. Pay the cover and look around the place and use your entrance / consumption fee to have a nice dinner and a couple drinks. Then head to Casarao.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068657]I didn't want to go near Scandallo during my first trip to Sp as I just stayed at the Moema clinicas (and was satisfied enough with what I experienced among them). I do have a question for all you Scandallo fans since there seems to be a lot of you. Assuming the average rate you can get the girls down to is about 1,000 are per session, how does this price compare to what you would have to pay for a session back in your home countries? Is it less or more?[/QUOTE]Scan is quite simply the best mongering spot on planet earth. Nothing else comes close. Is it cheap? No. But like everything in life, you get what you pay for. Scan is worth every penny.
As for the comments on pricing, I have been to Scan hundreds of times over the past six years and these days 1000 R is where I hold the line. Never have a problem finding something mindblowing at that price point. If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer. She is doing you a favor by signaling you would be better off with someone else. The few times in hundreds of visits to Scan where I have broken the 1000 R line, I have regretted it.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3068659]The most important part of the answer to your question is there is NOTHING to make a comparison to! Nowhere in the world can you find 150 super attractive girls ready to fuck in a luxe nightclub atmosphere. (And don't tell me FKK or Jakarta. I've done both. Good fun but no comparison). So "price per session" doesn't really matter because it's not just a session. It's the entire experience where fucking is prob one to two hours of a seven hour experience. (I've actually stayed as long as 15 hours there. LOL).
But OK most of us are from the USA or Europe. In the USA it's completely illegal so prices are very high. In fact I wouldn't even bother with a hooker. I do Seeking in the USA and best you can do is $300-500 USD.
Europe has gotten more expensive diva girls in UK are now 400 and up. Spain still a reasonable 200-250/ HR. Jakarta is 100% king of pricing at $22 USD/hr. LOL. Nothing even comes close. Thailand is now $150 ish for a gogo girl.
Given all that, Scan is an amazing value for what you get. Its not just about fucking. If it is then stick to the Clinicas (which I personally don't enjoy I love a club atmosphere).
Ps if u want a more affordable club try Casarao on a Wed-Sat when the big new area is open. After the remodel and when that section is open maybe 70% as fun for 1/2 the price.
PPS You have to go to Scan at least once. It will blow your fucking mind.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insightful responses from all you guys so far as I'm starting to kind of understand why you all go to Scandallo. It seems it's the overall luxurious club atmosphere experience in addition to the girls then that you folks are wiling to pay top $$ for. I've been to some FKKs in Germany where they were really nice inside too but this luxury was more of a nice to have rather than a need to have for me personally. I wouldn't go make a special trip over to Germany just for these FKKs unless I happen to be in Europe for some other purpose then I'll make some time to drop by in one. But again, I would rather find a decent clean brothel instead since the luxury is not an element I like to pay a premium for. Now I'm going to assume that Scandallo tops even the most luxurious FKK but then again for me, this would be going in a direction that doesn't really do much for me in terms of the luxury.
On my next trip to SP, I'll likely take all your advice and at least make a visit to Scandallo since there's so much noise about it but knowing me, I'll probably resist pulling any girls. I'll use up the consumption fee as much as I can with food and drink but even there, I'm the type of guy who likes to eat street market food whenever I travel for local cuisine rather than Michelin star restaurants. But yes I am open to check the place out.
Since it was asked, I'm from Canada near Toronto where we do have a mongering scene but it's driven by incall and outcall services online. Average rates are about $200 Cad for 30 minutes and $300 Cad for an hour but go higher for so called VIP girls (but reviews don't necessarily point to better service). It's a very international scene with girls from all over but I have the issue where it's all online so you cannot check girls out in personal before making commitments to sessions. But these are the rates I've been weighing against for my international travels. For me wherever I travel to, the costs should be lower than my home territory and although at times (but rarely), do I see rates abroad go higher than Toronto, I'm unlikely to session. A good example is most of the venues in Japan which are priced higher than in Toronto so I'll either look for lower end venues or just be a general tourist.
"I'm the type of guy who likes to eat street market food whenever I travel for local cuisine rather than Michelin star restaurants. "
Then Casarao is your spot in Sao Paulo. You can have a great time there for 1/4th of what you would spend at Scan. The tradeoff is the average quality is way lower. That said there are always a few diamonds in the rough. You can walk away highly satisfied if you are patient. = Recent renovations to the lower level have greatly improved the amount of space and the atmosphere. In addition, they recently opened new rooms onsite which corrected for Casarao's worst deficiency, which was shithole rooms with long waits on busy nights.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068724]Thanks for the insightful responses from all you guys so far as I'm starting to kind of understand why you all go to Scandallo. It seems it's the overall luxurious club atmosphere experience in addition to the girls then that you folks are wiling to pay top $$ for.
On my next trip to SP, I'll likely take all your advice and at least make a visit to Scandallo since there's so much noise about it but knowing me, I'll probably resist pulling any girls. I'll use up the consumption fee as much as I can with food and drink but even there,
Since it was asked, I'm from Canada near Toronto where we do have a mongering scene but it's driven by incall and necessarily point to better service). It's a very international scene with girls from all over but ..,, end venues or just be a general tourist.[/QUOTE]
It is often quicker to travel from Toronto, Canada to Brazil than it is to travel across the full length of Brazil, from Oiapoque to Chu.
The easternmost point of Brazil is closer to Africa than it is to the westernmost point of Brasil.
France's longest land border is not with Germany, Spain, or Italy. It is with Brasil.
Is often quicker to fly from Toronto, Canada to Sao Paulo than it is to take a bus from Sao Paulo to Porto Alegre.
It is often faster to travel from Toronto, Canada to Rio de Janeiro than it is to travel from Manaus to Braslia by road.
You can leave Canada and reach Brazil faster than you can cross Brazil from north to south.
All this perspectives to say Scandallo visit can be closer than traveling across Brasil.
Hope you visit nextime or follow Scandy on instagram . Easy peasy to connect or reconnect with scandalllo garotas beauties followers on Instagrsm
nothin like having a two hot blonde 21 year , Instagram models, pulling & stroking your junk under the table, while she DFK you & her hot bi-girlfriends.
Many of my plans have been derailed, of just dinner & consumables . ,kkk
the first time the elevators door swish open on 2nd floor, combined with scent of lusty perfume , as hot beautiful garotas on the couch, coffee barb & door to main room, all turn to get a good look at you..
damn experience is like a high. knowing every thing you see, ever piece of sexy eyecandy is available to you. wherever you cast your eyes can be your.s,
hope other dudes remember that first time too.
hope other bros experienced the same First time .,
Having met a few hard core mongers I can definitely see those who would go to SP and not touch Scand. I've met a few who get AirBnB's in SantaFe Bogota just to be closer to the street action.
Between all of the clinicas, you kind of have to pace yourself to even have any gas left for Scand. It sucks to hear the starting price is going up there but as has been mentioned before. That's not a place to go and penny pinch, and even if you don't want to spend its still an enjoyable place to be.
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;3068776] I've met a few who get AirBnB's in SantaFe Bogota just to be closer to the street action. [/QUOTE]I've done that. Santa Fe is a blast for a couple nights.
[QUOTE=MIAmgr2026;3068690]Scan is quite simply the best mongering spot on planet earth. Nothing else comes close. Is it cheap? No. But like everything in life, you get what you pay for. Scan is worth every penny.
As for the comments on pricing, I have been to Scan hundreds of times over the past six years and these days 1000 R is where I hold the line. Never have a problem finding something mindblowing at that price point. If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer. She is doing you a favor by signaling you would be better off with someone else. The few times in hundreds of visits to Scan where I have broken the 1000 R line, I have regretted it.[/QUOTE]I agree. I generally hold the line at 1000R, though I've gone up to 1200R. Tell them what you're willing to pay and if they're not agreeable, smile and find the next one. There are so many there and you are king.
[QUOTE=MIAmgr2026;3068690]...... If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer.......[/QUOTE]I suppose if you convince yourself of this you won't feel too bad when the hottest babe you've ever laid eyes upon walks away leaving you nursing a very hard erection.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068724]so you cannot check girls out in personal before making commitments to sessions[/QUOTE]In Canada, you're mongering with your hands tied behind your back. Why do this?
I understand if you live close enough. And have your regulars that you stick to.
Just last week, I wrapped up a 1-week mongering trip to Toronto. And let me say this clearly. Canada mongering is a big scam.
They don't show you girls in-person. Only online heavily edited pics. Most Asian agencies don't even post real pics just references.
I did extensive research on TERB and poor mongers there talk about TOFTT and reporting back their disappointments. They are comparing faces to celebs and try to describe the girl as accurately + the forum is controlled by agencies and girls are active on it so it's all still a scam.
A lot of catfish is happening. The travel distances sitting in traffic from different areas. Missisauga, downtown, Markham, North York. Lost interest to relax and fuck with all the ubering around.
1 girl I booked incall for 45 m, I walked in saw her fat and ugly. Gave her full money and just left. Many other girls were great disappointment.
Who you going to argue with? Escort agency they know they're scamming. It's take it or leave it.
I can't do it, just can't.
Also Canada is cold during the winter months. Unbearable.
On the plus side, I booked outcalls with LBD with Emmax2 and Chloex1 they were fantastic. KatieKuiper from DD. British Nadia. Japanese girl from Sakura agency. Mind blowing experiences.
Also got my first British chick done checkbox. Great accent, said "she was English! Nadia from TP. Good service.
If you really crave a native English speaking white girl, go to Toronto otherwise Brazilian Garotas, all displayed in the same venue, no traffic, no travel, wyciwyg. Do Brazil.
Just a quick note as I'm here this week and have gone 2 x, both times from 7 pm to 12 am (so a bit early).
For the 'classic' (blonde or light brunette, fit, busty) really attractive girls I've found the ask to be 2-2. 5 k and most will take 1. 5 k (perhaps 1. 2 k close to closing). Others can still be had for 1-1. 2 k, but it does take some negotiation. I'm pretty conversant in Portuguese, but that hasn't necessarily helped me LOL.
The clinicas and Gauguin pricing seem to be about the same, with Bomboa being a graveyard for girls according to a couple friends of friends (I. E. No girls. Unsure of pricing).
Online has been a bit nuts and I've had girls ask for 2-3 k, but still not too hard to find someone for 1 k for a couple hours. Just prepare for 50% of them to flake the first date.
My craziest interaction was with a Scandallo girl I sessioned with in early April for 1. 3 k who now wants 4 k and dinner for outcall! Crazy!
Thankfully I did have a threesome with a favorite and friend for 1. 5 k, had a couple awesome Gauguin sessions for 800-1 k, and my favorita is coming in from Rio for 5500 for 3 days / nights.
In short, pricing all over the map, but it does seem markedly higher to me at Scandallo and online from earlier in the year. You can hold the line at 1k, as I did for a couple nights, but you'll need to lower your standards or you'll go home with your dick in your hand.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3068788]In Canada, you're mongering with your hands tied behind your back. Why do this?
I understand if you live close enough. And have your regulars that you stick to.
Just last week, I wrapped up a 1-week mongering trip to Toronto. And let me say this clearly. Canada mongering is a big scam.
They don't show you girls in-person. Only online heavily edited pics. Most Asian agencies don't even post real pics just references.
I did extensive research on TERB and poor mongers there talk about TOFTT and reporting back their disappointments. They are comparing faces to celebs and try to describe the girl as accurately + the forum is controlled by agencies and girls are active on it so it's all still a scam.
A lot of catfish is happening. The travel distances sitting in traffic from different areas. Missisauga, downtown, Markham, North York. Lost interest to relax and fuck with all the ubering around.
1 girl I booked incall for 45 m, I walked in saw her fat and ugly. Gave her full money and just left. Many other girls were great disappointment.
Who you going to argue with? Escort agency they know they're scamming. It's take it or leave it.
I can't do it, just can't.
Also Canada is cold during the winter months. Unbearable.
On the plus side, I booked outcalls with LBD with Emmax2 and Chloex1 they were fantastic. KatieKuiper from DD. British Nadia. Japanese girl from Sakura agency. Mind blowing experiences.
Also got my first British chick done checkbox. Great accent, said "she was English! Nadia from TP. Good service.
If you really crave a native English speaking white girl, go to Toronto otherwise Brazilian Garotas, all displayed in the same venue, no traffic, no travel, wyciwyg. Do Brazil.[/QUOTE]I never said Canada is all that great for mongering. That's why I don't monger much anymore here. And yeah we have cold winters but I live 7 minutes from the ski slopes and get an average of 100 mornings of skiing each winter. Can't have everything at any one location!
I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.[/QUOTE]I have seen guys wear shorts and T shirt to Scan. If you can pay, they will let you in. That said, jeans and a dress or polo shirt is more appropriate for the atmosphere.
[QUOTE=MIAmgr2026;3068869]I have seen guys wear shorts and T shirt to Scan. If you can pay, they will let you in. That said, jeans and a dress or polo shirt is more appropriate for the atmosphere.[/QUOTE]KKK: it was 58 degrees last night in SP at 10 pm. My standard boate gear for winter: semi-new black running shoes, designer jeans, designer t-shirt, insulated fall jacket, 1200 br and a couple of credit cards.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. .[/QUOTE]I usually wear nice jeans, white sneakers (or black dress shoes) and a dark black or blue polo. A cheap, but unique watch (girls will frequently comment). It get's cold-ish, but hey, I'm originally from north of Chicago so it doesn't bother me. I don't bring a light jacket or anything, but that's mostly because I'd hate to forget or have it walk away. For money bring what you think you need. I usually have 1500-1600 as I don't want to use the ATM there and might go to Casarao after.
It may sound lame, but the biggest thing honestly is to just smile a lot and keep all of your conversations very light hearted and fun.
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;3068776]Having met a few hard core mongers I can definitely see those who would go to SP and not touch Scand. I've met a few who get AirBnB's in SantaFe Bogota just to be closer to the street action.
Between all of the clinicas, you kind of have to pace yourself to even have any gas left for Scand.to be.[/QUOTE]This was posted before. Guys can use this link to see the garotas on duty fof twenty clincas. The fotos daily lineup also on whatsapp status, and reviews on GP-Guia.
https://www.kamaww.com/
https://www.kamaww.com/sp/sao-paulo/clinica/spa-anisha
Anisha
new small clinica near tangara because tangara talent has fallen off a damn cliff. not a attractive beauty in a lineup of 15-20
Always ask for forista discount. Note any fresh new garota appearing in the lineup is scoped up fast by bored horndogs. Clinicas have the same team lineuo for months.
Shit how long has amazing blond Karen has been at prime? At least four years because I sessioned with her in 2022 in a duplo with brasil porno star ariella ferraz.
[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk?si=PC-7O9puRuE5fxI3[/URL]
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.[/QUOTE]
Watch the whole thing for.
1. how to dress (dress shirt by dudalina, cargo shorts, tennis shoes).
2. concealed carry weapon, I recommend the SOCP line of knives, and vertex concealed camera packs which work.
3. MUSIC, MUSIC, MUSIC -- hotel California by sambo, just put that on play while you are fuder fumar and you are good.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3069053][URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk?si=PC-7O9puRuE5fxI3[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.[/QUOTE]For Scandello and all the other clubs in SP, I wear dark jeans or slacks, a polo shirt or a button down untucked and dark blue sneakers. Easy to pack and comfortable. There is no reason to be super fashionable unless that is your style. I have seen guys in shorts and tshirts during the afternoons just hanging out. So dress what you makes you comfortable.
Whatever you do, don't try to carry hidden knives and hidden camera into the clubs. These clubs are pretty safe and have lots of security so I don't see a need to invite problems in a foreign country. I understand the need to carry it if you are walking around centro but no need at these clubs.
[URL]https://youtu.be/uL11lnS5QSw?si=qc4tgviOlv8spKWB[/URL]
Carry your cell in this case, which makes it a effective covert filming platform, along with the hetero jesus uniform.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.[/QUOTE]
Opening your own bottles with a leatherman skeletool is my approach. Gives a reason for open carry of a small blade which obviously is a deterrent. Not so much in the termas like scan but at the prives which are inhabited by lower class trucker types.
And decent wingmen.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3069185]Whatever you do, don't try to carry hidden knives and hidden camera into the clubs. These clubs are pretty safe and have lots of security so I don't see a need to invite problems in a foreign country. I understand the need to carry it if you are walking around centro but no need at these clubs.[/QUOTE]
In reality, I think that small vertex sling bag inside of a camelback size bag for essentials like a small speaker (sony), usb vibrator, lube, toys, and actually water (vagabundo fucks for an hour out of an hour, or at least 50 minutes). And a laptop for porn, which I have come to like and so do my choice of girls. Usually a thinkpad t14 refurbished from amazon. I am a trader, so at least during market hours I am adjusting positions on a GLD box.
Felipe ret full album is 40 minutes.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3068991]Guys can use this link to see the garotas on duty fof twenty clincas. The fotos daily lineup also on whatsapp status, and reviews on GP-Guia.
https://www.kamaww.com/
https://www.kamaww.com/sp/sao-paulo/clinica/spa-anisha[/QUOTE]You know of a site like this for Rio?
[QUOTE=MIAmgr2026;3068690]Scan is quite simply the best mongering spot on planet earth. Nothing else comes close. Is it cheap? No. But like everything in life, you get what you pay for. Scan is worth every penny.
As for the comments on pricing, I have been to Scan hundreds of times over the past six years and these days 1000 R is where I hold the line. Never have a problem finding something mindblowing at that price point. If a girl is not satisfied with 1000 R, take that as a clear sign she will be an awful performer. She is doing you a favor by signaling you would be better off with someone else. The few times in hundreds of visits to Scan where I have broken the 1000 R line, I have regretted it.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I rarely find premium price equates to better service. If you're rich, then sure go ahead but at that point you should be able to date normal non putas. There are so many 9's and 10's, that if you're budget conscious you don't need to pay double / triple rates. 1) Wait another 10 min for a new smokeshow, 2) at least give her a chance to sweat and change your mind. That initial agreed price sets the tone for future encounters, a higher floor you'll be taxed at a much higher premium. Plus when you overpay they know you overvalue, more likely to keep upselling. I want the girl who wants to be there not only for double rate. Imagine having to pay your best friend to hang out with you, they don't want to be there and often it shows. My anecdote, last week had a 9 German blonde take 1 K at Scandallo, fire session, and didn't charge me for the 2nd hour. Had a prior 1. 5 K girl, older 7. 5 while amazing on the floor, was the scammiest girl of trip.
But the broader question is why go to scandallo instead of just going to barra the Tijuca?
See as clues / evidence.
[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-alice-marie[/URL]
Here's a clue for you mossad recruiters of talent -- that pic is at barra posto 12, pontal. She is a surfer. At scan, you are paying the entrada for barra landscaping.
[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-julia-mackenzie[/URL]
That barra vips girl is at pesqueiro, at barra posto 8, across from grand hyatt barra at lucio costa 9600.
Those are what are called clues, and they should lead you to pick a place between lucio costa 1000 and 9600, and if you have the points, grand hyatt barra.
Just sit there on the balcony, and have barra vips girls come over, get your testosterone up by picking up some boxing gloves and pads down by the pool or gym or balcony between rounds of marathon fucking. Bring your tests and breed a new generation of barra vips.
Another clue.
Barravipsrio dot com has been around since 1997, like old testament, like deuteronomy, like pre-facebook, pre mark zukerfag sucking gavin newsom's she clit.
Somewhere, some owner of scandallo is laughing all the way to the bradesco account where he funds his trips to barra with gringo groupthink dollars.
The actual brasilians want to be with barra VIPs girls at posto 2, barra, praia do pepe, strolling along in water calm enough to swim, sticking their go pros up the asses of those barra VIPs girls, or filming the sparring sessioins with barra vips girls for their private collections in 4 k, like good little submissive cameraman (girls love it when you play submissive for them even if only for a minute between hour long fuck sessions).
Oh.
And at scan, they don't tell you when the hour is up, and they want you to go overtime.
Which drives your cost per fuck per minute from low earth orbit into outer space. And the sex sucks because it's covered this, 15 minute to shower that.
Be the bat not the ball.
Gain and seize the initiative.
The Swiss navy Marines have landed, and the asses of the barra vips girls are well in hand.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3068852]I am planning a first trip to Sao Paulo in July and am curious what fellow travelers think is appropriate attire for clubs in Sao Paulo. I have been to Rio three times in different seasons and been to most of the thermas there. In Rio the warm weather and casual atmosphere made me feel like wearing shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or beach shirt was appropriate. I know Sao Paulo in July will be cooler weather and I understand the vibe is less casual. I can't imagine going to Scandallo looking like I just walked off the beach. I usually try to pack light, but also don't want to look like a clown if the girls are all dressed well. Any thoughts would be appreciated and help me back my bags appropriately.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3069279]You know of a site like this for Rio?[/QUOTE]Its a helpful site to know which Clinicas are open on Sunday or closed on local holidays or if I missed the wassap status for new garotas on duty, they share additional photos not always published on wassap status.
Nope I don't know for Rio prives. Maybe vagabundo or Rio pros know of an equivalent site for prives daily posting of prives daily lineup.
[QUOTE=DJHeywood;3069313]Agreed, I rarely find premium price equates to better service. [/QUOTE]In my punting experience of over 25 years in some of the best mongering destinations in the world, I have found no correlation between price and performance either, however, given equal performance from any 2 random girls in the same venue / same city, I always have greater pleasure in shagging better looking girls over plain looking ones.
There is also a corollary opinion held by some that better looking girls preform or put out less than plain looking girls which again IMHO and experience is just not true especially in a city like Sao Paulo where I have found beautiful girls who love to shag and have a good time with their clients.
Case in point:
I have been visiting the clinicas every other afternoon since I arrived in SP around 2.5 weeks ago. A couple of days ago I had a good time with an Abboboro red head. She had a pretty face and an outgoing pleasant personality, but her silly cones were not good, and her body was a 5. 5 at best. But we clicked in bed and I enjoyed the session, but I will most likely not repeat with her. The total cost was 430 br if memory serves.
A few days before Abboboro, I went to Sharon, a boutique clinica that charges 2 x Abboboro's price. They have 2 very attractive blonds on their listings that I have been trying to hook up with for a couple of trips now, so lucky me, when I arrived at Sharon that afternoon and one of the blonds was available. We met in the room and she was very attractive possessing a beautiful face and a slender all-natural body, the kind I crave. She also had a demure and friendly personality, so guess what? The sex was great! Her face was at least a 7.5. (I am a very tough grader.). Her body an 8. The only criticism I have of her body was that her thighs were a tad too thick for her body type and my tastes. I rated the sex a 9 due to her performance in bed combined with her good looks. I plan to repeat with this one.
No offence intended Vagabundo, to each his own, but you are out of your mind! Seriously, I don't find this girl attractive at all. You might spot 1 or 2 girls like her in Scan, but that is out of a 150 girls who normally show up at Scan on any given night except Saturday and Monday. So, the mystery is solved. I know why you prefer RJ over SP.
P.S. Don't be a nut job and try to bring a weapon into Scan. I think you were just trying to be humorous but carrying concealed weapons around SP is no laughing matter.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3068788]In Canada, you're mongering with your hands tied behind your back. Why do this?
I understand if you live close enough. And have your regulars that you stick to.
Just last week, I wrapped up a 1-week mongering trip to Toronto. And let me say this clearly. Canada mongering is a big scam.
They don't show you girls in-person. Only online heavily edited pics. Most Asian agencies don't even post real pics just references.
I did extensive research on TERB and poor mongers there talk about TOFTT and reporting back their disappointments. They are comparing faces to celebs and try to describe the girl as accurately + the forum is controlled by agencies and girls are active on it so it's all still a scam.
A lot of catfish is happening. The travel distances sitting in traffic from different areas. Missisauga, downtown, Markham, North York. Lost interest to relax and fuck with all the ubering around..[/QUOTE]Since Canada was brought up, I will say Canada is great for locals and Americans looking for a quick, long weekend trip. Yes, I ideally would go from April to October.
I put in some time reading reviews, I have had great success, but I don't lock in on the web photos. I can also detect a guy shilling for an agency and / or girl. If the reviews are mixed, I scratch the girl from possibilities. None of this "she might DFK, she might not".
Anyway, Toronto and Montreal are great cities. Both have great summer events. True, Toronto escorts are spread around the metro area but there are plenty downtown. Almost all Montreal escorts are in the center of the city a few metro stops from wherever I'm staying.
If I want a buffet, I obviously need more time and a ticket to Brazil, Thailand or Germany.
[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-sophia-mendes[/URL]
This Barravipsrio girl is pictured at a triangular pool at av das Americas 7897 and av Malibu, with the white and black poles behind her. I lived there. I find all of those girls on barravipsrio dot com fuckable, even the tatted surfer girl. The point is that this area, barra, is where they want to live, and if you know the places, they show up, and then they are in the same condo, which is cool.
As for weapons, that video from porta dos fundos is funny, but it is also true as to local culture. You need to train martial arts of some type and you need to be armed to some degree, definitely not a gun (though you should know how to use one) but a knife at least a small one, and know how to deal with the local authorities. SP is more dangerous than Rio according to my own experience and many sources.
I also like riosexsite.
[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/[/URL]
Of course to each his own, but after a while we few, we happy few know these girls -- both the cane and I fucked elisa sanches who is still on riosexsite (though she is too old for me now), and I can tell you which girls on that site were on photoaccompanhantes. They are charging 600 r for two hours, which is not bad if you can establish that it is a full two hours of sex, etc. This is the game, now.
How many of the girls on [URL]riosexsite.com[/URL] have you fucked? Etc.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3069356]No offence intended Vagabundo, to each his own, but you are out of your mind! Seriously, I don't find this girl attractive at all. You might spot 1 or 2 girls like her in Scan, but that is out of a 150 girls who normally show up at Scan on any given night except Saturday and Monday. So, the mystery is solved. I know why you prefer RJ over SP.
P.S. Don't be a nut job and try to bring a weapon into Scan. I think you were just trying to be humorous but carrying concealed weapons around SP is no laughing matter.[/QUOTE]
Even if you do not carry a actual weapon, it is a good idea to train martial arts especially boxing.
And to act as if you are carrying a weapon.
This is why cariocas carry their bags on their front and put their hands inside if in a Hi risk situation.
Dress like locals.
Motoboys are wearing chest rigs with their phones that could be big enough for a pistol.
Vertex socp bag.
5. 11 skyweight chest pack.
Or the cheaper alternatives.
Local girls like local guys, and the local motoboys are wearing chest packs that could have a taurus.
Why do you think wearing robes at clubs is a thing?
To disarm or strip search the thugs.
Especially at 4 x 4 or centro or zona norte or vila mimosa or rougher areas.
And everyone carries knives.
I have several, and I need to oil up my better ones so I can open them one hand AND PRACTICE.
But my go to is a local blade, a invicta that holds up to being taken into the sea, I just need to sharpen that.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3069356]No offence intended Vagabundo, to each his own, but you are out of your mind! Seriously, I don't find this girl attractive at all. You might spot 1 or 2 girls like her in Scan, but that is out of a 150 girls who normally show up at Scan on any given night except Saturday and Monday. So, the mystery is solved. I know why you prefer RJ over SP.
P.S. Don't be a nut job and try to bring a weapon into Scan. I think you were just trying to be humorous but carrying concealed weapons around SP is no laughing matter.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3069400] here on photoaccompanhantes. They are charging 600 r for two hours, which is not bad if you can establish that it is a full two hours of sex, etc. This is the game, now.
How many of the girls on [URL]riosexsite.com[/URL] have you fucked? Etc.[/QUOTE]Interesting question. When I 1st visited Brazil in April 2021, Covid was still going strong. As a result every venue that I was aware of was closed so escort web sites were the only way to go for a newbie like I was. So, I met some great girls on BarraVIP some of whom I still can recall with warm memories. I stayed for 7 days in RJ at the Fasano Hotel for $125/ night. The hotel was nearly empty, but I had a great time.
Then I flew to SP where all the boates were still closed, but I thank God for the clinicas which somehow remained open. So I split my time between the hitting the clinicas and booking MClass escorts. My 1st Mclass girl was gorgeous! I went to her apartment and when she knelt down and gave me her first BJ, I was hooked on her and Brazilian girls ever since. She told me she was studying law and wanted to be a judge. Ok, go Girl! But a year and a half after we met, she went on a European tour and I never heard from her again.
There was another very attractive blond that I first spotted on ClubModel in 2022. I never What'sapped her because by then I was getting into the boate scene and was phasing out of using escort services. Then I spotted her one night sitting all alone in a booth in Bomboa and the rest was history. I really dug that girl and we had lots of fun including 3 ways with her girlfriend. But that too ended when she took off on her European tour. Oh well.
Anyway, I moved away from using the escort sites because I enjoy going out on the hunt so much more than searching the internet and texting girls back and forth while I am still in my fucking hotel room. But for sure there are some smoking hot girls on the better internet sites like BarraVIPs, Riosexsite (? I don't know? MClass, and ClubModel. I still check these sites out from time to time, but I haven't contacted anybody in a couple of years. Check out the 2 girls whose pics I have attached below. This result from a 2-minute website review. The 2nd girl has silly cones, duh, but I still like her look. KKK! You can find many girls like this all night long in Scan and other SP Boates. It will cost more at the boate, but seeing the girls in person, how they really look, how they act and how they relate to me is worth the added cost IMHO plus searching is so more fun at the brick and mortar.
A. H.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3069515]
Anyway, I moved away from using the escort sites because I enjoy going out on the hunt so much more than searching the internet and texting girls back and forth while I am still in my fucking hotel room. But for sure there are some smoking hot girls on the better internet sites like BarraVIPs, Riosexsite (? I don't know? MClass, and ClubModel. I still check these sites out from time to time, but I haven't contacted anybody in a couple of years. Check out the 2 girls whose pics I have attached below. This result from a 2-minute website review. The 2nd girl has silly cones, duh, but I still like her look. KKK! You can find many girls like this all night long in Scan and other SP Boates. It will cost more at the boate, but seeing the girls in person, how they really look, how they act and how they relate to me is worth the added cost IMHO plus searching is so more fun at the brick and mortar.
A. H.[/QUOTE]MClass, brings back memories when I first visited SP in Nov 2009 while going to the MotoGP. I didn't know if that still existed. I tried looking for it and putting together my SP bucket list while I'm down there. If you could be so kind to send the link to my PM if you like or just post it, would be appreciated. Looking to read some more of your posts as I will be there next month for a month or more if I really like it.
PS...just found it. Thanks for reminding me of the site. Good times.
You see.
She is fuckable as fuck because.
That is geolocated to pontal, posto 12, she is a surfer, and she is a red head.
Now, this image stands for.
1. surf girls at praia macumba.
2. vagabundo has taken real, college girls who ASKED him as their in loco parentis daddy.
3. to take their muay thai sweating young asses to that location.
4 and marathon watch operation lioness.
No shit.
Now, here are some other barravipsrio girls.
Test:
Geolocate all of these (images to follow so we can stalk all of them individually, haha, that's a little a rapy. So ah, here is a safe space for we 98 year old moses rabbis to stalk young women to fuck for a buck).
The invasion of Brazil depends on it.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3069356]No offence intended Vagabundo, to each his own, but you are out of your mind! Seriously, I don't find this girl attractive at all. You might spot 1 or 2 girls like her in Scan, but that is out of a 150 girls who normally show up at Scan on any given night except Saturday and Monday. So, the mystery is solved. I know why you prefer RJ over SP.
P.S. Don't be a nut job and try to bring a weapon into Scan. I think you were just trying to be humorous but carrying concealed weapons around SP is no laughing matter.[/QUOTE]
5. because I have in fact gone surfing there -- actually swimming.
Answer -- this girl is at Pesquero, Barra posto 8, across the street from Barra Grand Hyatt.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3069549]You see.
She is fuckable as fuck because.
That is geolocated to pontal, posto 12, she is a surfer, and she is a red head.
Now, this image stands for.
1. surf girls at praia macumba.
2. vagabundo has taken real, college girls who ASKED him as their in loco parentis daddy.
3. to take their muay thai sweating young asses to that location.
4 and marathon watch operation lioness./QUOTE]
A).
I also have found very little correlation between price and performance in bed. Where I find a correlation is between price and looks, at least in the traditional model or actress look that global corporations put up as ideal beauty (lighter skin, tall, thin, billboard pretty, etc). Basically the type of girls you see in fashion magazines or advertisement.
You will find more of those type of women at the higher cost venues and less so at the more value oriented venues.
If your tastes in women diverge from these type of women, then you have way more leverage and options.
I normally would prefer to fuck a girl who is 7 in looks and personality, but is a 9 in bed vs. A girl who is 9 in looks and just a 7 in bed.
With that said, I don't mind paying more to fuck a 9, as she is just as likely to be good / bad in bed as a 7. You don't know until you fuck her.
B).
DO NOT bring any concealed weapons into a boate or high end civilian club. You are asking for trouble. You are a gringo, why bring chaos when are traveling to a country where you might not be familiar with the justice system or language. Those places have lots of security and are among the safest venues in the city. You aren't roaming the streets of Centro alone at night. That video from porta dos fundos is funny as fuck, but take it for what it is. Comedy.
C).
The rmain purposes of the robes in termas aren't to hinder hidden weapons. The robes have pockets big enough to hold multiple cell phones. The main reasons for wearing robes (and it is optional at many termas) are to 1) provide more comfortable spa clothing and give off the illusion of a spa and some do take advantage of the spa facilities and use the showers, sauna, etc. 2) allow for freedom of movement and easy access for the girls to feel you up and entice you to go to the room 3) probably likeliest reason. Not stink up your clothes with smoke, perfume or sweaty smell of sex for when you go home to the missus.
D).
I've seen guys wear everything, from tank tops, shorts and Crocs / Havaana to a suit and wing tips right from the office, when they visit Scandallo. But most guys are dressed comfortably in smart casual attire (T shirt, polos, collared shirt and jeans or pants, with the occasional shorts. Wear what makes you feel comfortable. At the end of the day, having money is all that matters to the girls. The clothes are coming off anyway. What is more important are having good hygiene and not giving off a creep vibe, which are true in any social setting.
E).
I like RJ a lot and Barra is great if you want a more relaxing and safer spot to chill in Rio away from the hustle of Zona Sul, especially if you are shacking up with your favorite girl or spending weeks / months in RJ. Barra's (and those west of Barra) beaches and water are better than Copa, Ipanema or Leblon. But for truly great beaches and clean water, there are tons of better spots to visit in Brazil. There is also a small, but decent club and restaurant scene near Posto 2.
But Barra is still mostly an upper class residential area and a * to get to most of the tourist spots, nightkife, top end restaurants, good hotels, etc. , which are mostly in Zona Sul. Basically everything a tourist or short time visitor not on a budget would want are in between Leblon and Botafogo.
So with above said. "Why go to Scandallo instead of Barra? I will count the ways:
1) You don't want to be in / can't be in RJ, whether due to work, prefer the big city, etc.
2) So what if there are a bunch of hot online escorts based out of Barra? There are tons more in SP, whether you want to try your luck picking them up at local spots they congregate at or just browsing from the comfort of your hotel. You don't need to be in Barra for that.
3) The big VIP money isn't in RJ or Barra. It's in SP. They might have vacation homes in RJ, but SP is their home base. I would bet my life there are tons more rich people / VIP parties thrown in SP than RJ annually. There is a reason that SP has the most helicopters per capita and only city in the world with its own air traffic control system.
4) I prefer to see the goods in person and be able to chat and check out a girl's personality, as well as see how frisky they are. Imagine having ALL the HOT girls in all shapes and sizes and coloring from SPLove, Private55, BarraVIPs, MClass, Club Model and other Brazilian online escort websites gather in one safe, relaxed and luxurious venue for you to pick and choose in person. And that is Scandallo!
5) Most of the girls at Scandallo can be had for around the average price of what hot online escorts charge for 1 hour. And most of the Scandallo girls aren't clock watching, which online escorts are known to do. It isn't a strict 1 hour with a Scandallo girl. Most of them have stayed in the room with me for 1. 5 to 2 hrs, as I tend to take my time and enjoy foreplay. You do pay more for the ROOM FEE when you go over 1 hour, but any time over 1 hour is prorated by the MINUTE. So take as long as you want (within limits) with the girl until you finish. If going over 1 hour, when the room fee is being charged by the minute at this point, will fuck up your budget, you probably shouldn't be in Scandallo in the first place.
6) if you want an overnight date, Scandallo girls usually ask for 2 x their short time price. Most online escorts would charge a lot more. I don't do online escorts often in Brazil, but they quoted me 4 x to 6 x their 1 hour rate for an overnight date. Hey. Maybe I got no game and you can do better without meeting them first.
7) Time is very valuable to most, especially those with means. You can always make more money. You can't buy more time. Having a lot of some of the hottest girls in Brazil come to one place for you to pick and choose is very efficient utilization of your time, and thus valuable.
8) There is more accountability when dealing with a Scandallo girl as they can get fined, fired, blacklisted from working at other boates, etc. If they try to cheat a client, provide poor service, etc.
9) There is nothing comparable to Scandallo or other high end boates in RJ. Not even close. You can hit all the T1 termas and hobbying night clubs in Zona Sul in one night (and I have done so) and still don't see 1/3 of the talent you see in Scandallo.
10) Choosing Scandallo isn't "being the ball". It is choosing to play for the New York Yankees rather than the Single A ball Stockton Ports.
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3067770]Touchdown 10 pm on Wednesday the 20th race to the hotel, quick shower and off to Scandallo.
Cover I believe was 900 (don't quote me on that I got pretty trashed) and the place was packed! There was a singer so I guess it attracted the masses. Women from wall to wall. The main area was too crowded, so I made my base camp at the main entrance bar and would walk around from time to time, but that area gives you a good vantage point of the women coming and going from the other areas.
Start drinking gin and hedgybull to wake my ass up after a 14 hour flight, two drinks in this hot carioca named Natalia sits next to me. With the iconic carioca tan lines I knew we'd have to go upstairs.
We got upstairs and there was a wait for about 20 minutes. All good had another round and off we went.
She started off at 2 k I countered at 1200 we settle on $1500 to her and the normal room fee to the house. Smoke show in bed.
Made my way back down. 2nd girl Paulistana Natiely started off at 2 k, did the deed for 1200. A little wait again for the room.
It's 5 am and I took my drunk ass back to the hotel.
Now. After the first night things got a little fuzzy as I was day drinking and night drinking, and if the price was left out it's on purpose because I simply don't remember.
Next day Thursday 21st, wake up and make my way to baroness. Very nice spot, with a decent lineup. Choose a nice blondie, man can she fuck! End the session, exchange numbers and before I leave I asked her if she's into women, with a devilish smile she responds "eu amo". I suggested that we should connect later that evening and she said cool. Hos being hos and flaky I didn't think much of it and made my way to esch cafe ate some lunch smoked a nice charuto, and much to my surprise she hits me up and asks what my evening plans where? I told her to meet me at my hotel at 9 to have a few drinks and we'd go from there. She quotes me 2 k for the night I counter at 1500 and she accepts. So after a few drinks and dinner I lay the plan on her to go to scandallo and she is totally down.
This is the first time I've gone on the hunt with a wingwomen, and mannnnnnn I don't know if I can ever do wingmen again. Something about having a sexy women next to you makes you the hunted and not the hunter.
We got to scandallo at about 12 and again packed wall to wall. Grab a drink at the main area bar, make a quick lap and settle down and the first bar to the right by the elevator. Have a few more drinks and this sexy sexy sexxxyyyy young blonde sits across the bar from us. My girl likes her and I think she likes my girl because every time I look at her she's looking our way and not at me but at my wingwoman. I go grab her hand and walk her over to us. We proceed to drink together for the next hour, all there of us feeling each other up taking shots three way kissing. Amazing times, I could've left right then and there and I would've been content, but I wondered what her pussy looked like, I don't know why but I always wonder what pussys look like. She starts off at 2500 I talk her down to 1500. And off we go. One hour of pure fucking bliss. These two are going at it while I'm fucking one and then switch. 69 ing each other while I'm doggyfucking one and crescendoed to me busting a nut in both of their mouths and them cumswapping and guzzling every last drop of it. What the fuck just happened!
It's about 4 am, me and my lady head back to the hotel, where we proceed to fuck for another few hours. A goodbye kiss and slap on the ass, and she's out. For now.
Friday 22nd. Wake up and the hamster on the wheel is already turning. Chose palms and off we go. Dude in the front speaks good English, forgot his name, super helpful. Recommends Isis. She's hot, slender, all natural. While I was there saw a few garotas coming and going and they all looked good!!
Did the deed and headed to Esch for lunch and charuto (this has become a routine).
I got a date at night with a seeking girl I chatted with the last time I was in SP in December but never actually met. She had suggested a show called Luminescence at the Cathedral the Se. Picked her up had a few drinks at this cool bank fault bar near the cathedral and off we went to the show. It was an amazing visual experience, highly recommended. Had some sushi at Hom Maguro Jardins, very very good sushi and I'm a sushi snob, and off to the hotel for a night full of fucking until the sun came up. Called her an uber and off she went. No money was exchanged.
Saturday 5/23. Wake up and that fucking hamster is already at it. Make my way to lushness where the lady in the front tells me they have a two girl special, and I bite. Reluctantly. Pick fox and luana from the tablet. Scars from botched surgeries and baby's. They don't kiss each other, def don't lick each other and overall don't seem they even like each other. My fault not there's, I knew better than that (fucking hamster) Did the deed and I'm out. Guess where? Lunch, cigar and I got a text from my wingwoman, she wants to hang out.
Dinner at Tanit, bomb Spanish food. And off the Scandallo. Saturday night and this place is dead? Not only is it dead but getting quotes for 3 k? Fuck you say?
Women don't even want to negotiate 2-3 k and firm. I got a bottle (should've done this the first night) but at 90 are a gin it'll be better off financially on the long run.
Talked to some fine women, one morena for Fortaleza that had my girl drooling, but at 3 k not happening. Finally got a short thick girl down to 1500 and off we went. Decent fuck and even let me put it in her ass. But my girl really wasn't into her all that much.
Came back down and drank for another hour and decided to call it but didn't want to go back home yet. Decided to go to 300 sky bar where we proceeded to drink and dance the night away with a bunch of 20 year olds. Great fucking time! It's 5 am, both of us are shit faced, hoped in the uber and finger fucked all the way back to the hotel blasting Felipe Hhhhhhedddd. Fucked until 8 and gave her a big hug and a farewell kiss.
Sunday 24th, final day. The hamster is a little sluggish, but persistent. Options on Sunday are limited, but made my way over to Lumina Spa and picked Sol. Actual lineup no tablet. I believe she said she's from Paraguay. Quick fuck and after I busted I knew that I'd had enough. I believe it was 450 total. Back to the hotel packed my stuff. Went to Esch. Lunch, charuto and off to the airport.
Fuck, that was an action packed trip. SP is a cool spot. People are nice, food is amazing.
Scandallo. What can I say that hasn't been said already. Shout out to Ana at the reception desk before you go upstairs to the rooms. She remembered me from last time. I guess I'm doing something right!
But some of these girls that stand firm at these sky high prices end up just walking around all night. Oh well.
The massage scene is legit and I need to explore this more. Though next time I want to actually see the girls and not select from a tablet if possible.
I'm sure I left some stuff out, I'm typing this all from recollection.
But to summarize, I drank a lot and I fucked a lot and hope to be back soon!
Go get some![/QUOTE]Nicely done.
Where are those barra locations?
Like the [URL]economist.com[/URL] says, whoring is a luxury.
If you have the time to know, then you have arrived.
I wake up every day and look out my balcony at the beach in barra. I think I can see zuckercuck's yacht on the horizon to pick up some pussy.
The answer is: pesquero, across the street from grand Hyatt barra. Now if you're going to spend 400 r, spend it there, with those girls, and then take them back to your balcony suite in the grand Hyatt barra at lucio costa 9600.
I've lived on Lucio costa between 1000 and 9600 for the last 24 months of my 6 years so far in barra. This is it. This is the height of the human development index.
Remote work your financial situation, give a lawyer power of attorney over your properties so you can sell them with a few phone calls, put your investments in cash, and move here. If you can.
If you can't, well keep that link on your devices.
[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=DYb4xwkC7th4w0j-[/URL]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3069549]You see.
She is fuckable as fuck because.
That is geolocated to pontal, posto 12, she is a surfer, and she is a red head..[/QUOTE]
I'm planning on going to Sao Paulo Friday September25 to Saturday October 3rd.
I'm Ok spending more money to get good looking girls. I want 8, 9, or 10's. I want to do anal sex.
1. Is end of September a good time of the months? I can change the date in September. I'm flexible.
2. Which hotel do you all recommend to stay? I plan on going mostly to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin.
3. Should I go to another club?
4. Should I travel to another city if I have 10 days.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3069686]I'm planning on going to Sao Paulo Friday September25 to Saturday October 3rd.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
1. Is end of September a good time of the months? I can change the date in September. I'm flexible.
From my pov any time is a good time. ESP if your main objective is to hit the clubs at night.
2. Which hotel do you all recommend to stay? I plan on going mostly to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin.
With Gauguin in your list there is no perfect choice. It's quite far south. I prefer the Paulista area for hitting Scan and Casarao especially if you want to take a girl from Casarao home. Only 10 min drive. And Gauguin is 30 mins so not unreasonable. Guys who do clinicas like Moema. But it's not for me. I am a boate guy all the way and find south of Paulista Ave a great home base.
3. Should I go to another club?
Probably not. Those are the big 3 imo. Bomboa is number 4 but more like a supper club. I prefer the nightclub vibe.
4. Should I travel to another city if I have 10 days.
I would definitely consider it. Rio is a short hop and has some good options. But Rio pales in comparison for girls and clubs. But if u want something balanced do Rio FIRST and see sugarloaf and the beaches and hit some termas. It will seem great. Then do So Paulo and be prepared to be blown away. Don't do it in the other order because Rio is great. But only if u haven't been to So Paulo. I'd do four days Rio and six So Paulo if I were you.
Once you are experienced in Sp you will want to do all ten days there. I am going for ten days and don't have enough time to see all the girls I want to. This is because you develop some regulars plus maybe an almost GF and you want new girls at the clubs also. So six days SP will be great for first time but you will need more time once you have a harem. 😉.
PS Tip the day. Casarao girls make very cost efficient regulars. Let’s say u have a Scan girl who is 1200 in the club for an hour. Shes gonna want 2000 for overnight. And if u make her a regular it’s hard to pay her less plus at that point u like her and dont really want to bargain down. On the other hand a Casarao girl is gonna be thrilled with 1000 overnight. And u can give her 1000 from then on. So 1000 vs 2000 isnt much one time but really adds up over time. And there are great girls at Casarao. Just not as many as at Scan and its def not the same for the luxury feel in the club. But a long term Casa girl is a good thing. (I have two, plus a Scan GF).
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3069586]4) I prefer to see the goods in person and be able to chat and check out a girl's personality, as well as see how frisky they are. Imagine having ALL the HOT girls in all shapes and sizes and coloring from SPLove, Private55, BarraVIPs, MClass, Club Model and other Brazilian online escort websites gather in one safe, relaxed and luxurious venue for you to pick and choose in person. And that is Scandallo!
5) Most of the girls at Scandallo can be had for around the average price of what hot online escorts charge for 1 hour. And most of the Scandallo girls aren't clock watching, which online escorts are known to do. It isn't a strict 1 hour with a Scandallo girl. Most of them have stayed in the room with me for 1. 5 to 2 hrs, as I tend to take my time and enjoy foreplay. You do pay more for the ROOM FEE when you go over 1 hour, but any time over 1 hour is prorated by the MINUTE. So take as long as you want (within limits) with the girl until you finish. If going over 1 hour, when the room fee is being charged by the minute at this point, will fuck up your budget, you probably shouldn't be in Scandallo in the first place.
6) if you want an overnight date, Scandallo girls usually ask for 2 x their short time price. Most online escorts would charge a lot more. I don't do online escorts often in Brazil, but they quoted me 4 x to 6 x their 1 hour rate for an overnight date..[/QUOTE]I agree with all you said. Men choose to go to the Scandallo for the high quality escort "buffet" and the personal interactions with many beautiful women. Boates versus internet escorts is kind of an apples to oranges comparison.
I would however say a great escort could easily cost much less than what you pay to a Scandallo girl. This is ignoring the entrance fee, food and drink. That's the cost of the spectacle. A guy has to eat and drink somewhere. Scandallo is a night club after all. Perhaps Casarao is closer in price to a quality escort.
But yes, you are right. Most escorts will hold you to a hard hour, but I have had a few laid-back escorts who didn't have an appointment immediately afterward. Of course the overnight rate is always negotiable subject also to rapport and entertainment.
I think the biggest issue with seeking out escorts is doing the research to find a quality escort. Most guys don't have the time, patience and ingenuity to research Brazilian escorts.
Many just want to point & click on pretty internet pictures without thought. Many of these women come and go rapidly from the on-line escorting scene.
Escorts can also cancel or be delayed at the worst times. There was a guy who reached out to me this week on another forum. He said he had only three days in Brazil. I simply told him to skip the escorts.
I agree that there is a lot to be said for meeting a woman in person and chatting / flirting a bit to get the feel. You can't get that with an online escort service or "meeting" on Facebook or other social media. The São Paulo clubs (and the termas in Rio) are perfect for that. And in those venues establishing rapport frequently will involve kissing, touching, and fondling before making a decision.
Two things can be true at the same time.
One purpose of requiring / requesting robes is def to search for weapons.
Who is your favorite girl at 4 x 4? How many times have you been to 4 x 4?
The location is in the middle of 1) courts, 2) stock exchanges, 3) investment clubs, 4) thugs who carry 5) gringos (also known as victims, simps, targets, ATMs), 6) cops / military veteran, aka thugs who carry (confuses the code if you are both 5 and 6.
That old fat but strong and evil lady in the robe room is trained to look for concealed weapons, so you should as that video on SOCP fanny pack says, have a small dagger or other blade in your muay thai shorts waistband, which is a good look anyway, as it says my legs, arms are weapons, and chicks dig it.
And.
Holding bags for chicks to punch / kick is a good warmup for fucking (fighting and futbol being the 3 F's of Brazilian culture).
Plus, you know, that inside the waistband bulge could just be a USB powered dildo.
Condition the security at your provider to accept that you are carrying.
Dual use.
The most powerful weapon is a camera.
Some places, like mosaico insist on taping over the camera on your celular.
Some places like casarao and blue house out in anil near cidade do deus do search well enough to locate all blades.
Blue house is def not a gringo friendly place.
Have you seen the secret agent yet?
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3069586]The rmain purposes of the robes in termas aren't to hinder hidden weapons. The robes have pockets big enough to hold multiple cell phones. The main reasons for wearing robes (and it is optional at many termas) are to 1) provide more comfortable spa clothing and give off the illusion of a spa and some do take advantage of the spa facilities and use the showers, sauna, etc. 2) allow for freedom of movement and easy access for the girls to feel you up and entice you to go to the room 3) probably likeliest reason. Not stink up your clothes with smoke, perfume or sweaty smell of sex for when you go home to the missus.[/QUOTE]
The other thing you need to do is to always check the BarraVipsRio escort girls on Gp-[URL]Guia.net[/URL]
[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=291669[/URL]
This one gets a negative, so pass.
Screen out to the ones that have positive reviews.
This is actually the most important site to use to screen in all of Brazil, and [URL]Gparena.net[/URL]
Hit Gauguin last night and had another damn good time.
The house band was straight fire. They were running classic rock all night and I found myself singing right along with them. Bon Jovi, Livin' on a Prayer, all that good stuff. Man, the music was A+ quality. Rock on, fellas.
Ended up spending time with three different garotas.
First up was Helen, a short blonde from Florianópolis. If you've been around Instagram, you've probably seen her. She's got plenty of bikini pics floating around. She also works at CLínica Miruna and Luminia Spa under a different name. At first she's shy and reserved, but once she gets comfortable, it's a whole different story. Cute, natural blonde with a sweet look. I think I reviewed her on GP-Guia a few months back.
Now, I honestly had no clue what most of the girls were asking for sessions that night. Didn't matter. My number was simple: are $500. Same deal for everybody. Not a real more, not a real less. Every one of them agreed, so I wasn't about to argue.
Next was Ana Paula, a spicy little number from Minas Gerais, 22 years old. Somebody explain to me how Minas keeps producing so many beautiful women. We clicked immediately. I think she originally mentioned are $800 or something along those lines, but by 3 AM the number was are $500 and everybody was smiling. That's how negotiations go sometimes. Kkk.
Then things got interesting.
While Ana Paula and I were heading upstairs, the elevator stopped on the first floor and another girl stepped in. Carol. Twenty-one years old, cute smile, dimples, total girl-next-door vibe. Took one look and said, "Vamos lá. ".
Just like that, the night turned into a duo session.
I told Carol I was paying are $500 per garota. She smiled, said yes, and upstairs we went. Reception handled payment right at the room. Easy money.
Overall, everybody was friendly, relaxed, and easy to deal with. The whole experience felt smooth from start to finish.
What I like about Gauguin is that it feels like "Scandallo Lite. " Similar energy, good venue, live music, attractive garotas, and a much more reasonable price point. Between 1 AM and 3 AM, are $500-are $600 seemed to be the sweet spot if you know how to negotiate and don't act thirsty.
A few years from now, I might be sitting around talking about the good old days when are $500 got the job done. Kkk.
Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but Gauguin reminds me of what Scandallo used to be before the prices went crazy. Good music, good vibes, beautiful women, and rates that still make sense. Years from now, I'll probably be sitting around telling stories about the days when are $500 was enough for a fun night out. Anybody who's been around São Paulo long enough knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I've seen this movie before. Same thing happened at Scandallo. Before the NFL crowd started rolling through town, prices were much more reasonable. Then ballers started throwing around are $2,000 and are $3,000 like it was Monopoly money, good for them. Enjoy but the market never really came back down. You can still find the occasional are $500 to $800 brl garota in scandallo. But it's nowhere near as common as it used to be.
Bottom line: Gauguin continues to deliver. Good music, good atmosphere, friendly girls, and prices that still make sense. If you're looking for a fun night out without getting absolutely smoked on rates, I'the recommend giving it a shot.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3069946]Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but Gauguin reminds me of what Scandallo used to be before the prices went crazy. Good music, good vibes, beautiful women, and rates that still make sense. Years from now, I'll probably be sitting around telling stories about the days when are $500 was enough for a fun night out. Anybody who's been around So Paulo long enough knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I've seen this movie before. Same thing happened at Scandallo. Before the NFL crowd started rolling through town, prices were much more reasonable. Then ballers started throwing around are $2,000 and are $3,000 like it was Monopoly money, good for them. Enjoy but the market never really came back down. You can still find the occasional are $500 to $800 brl garota in scandallo. But it's nowhere near as common as it used to be.
Bottom line: Gauguin continues to deliver. Good music, good atmosphere, friendly girls, and prices that still make sense. If you're looking for a fun night out without getting absolutely smoked on rates, I'the recommend giving it a shot.[/QUOTE]Yes, but you can't say all of this and just ignore the exchange rate. When I first started going to Scandallo, the girls were quite happy to accept 600 reals for a session. But back then, the exchange rate was 3 reals for 1 dollar. The dollar has strengthened considerably against the real since then, and has remained so for a long time (got even stronger again in recent weeks). The last time I was at Scan, all the girls were trying to get 1,500 reals for a session, with most of them being willing to accept counteroffers from 1,000 reals to 1,200 reals. And then you have the outliers, like the attractive blonde branca who wanted 3,000 reals while offering restricted service (CBJ, can't dine at the why, and so on). Didn't see her stupid, greedy ass going with anybody all night. Of course not! Somebody here in a relatively recent post said that a Scandallo tute quoted him 5,000 reals! GTFOH LOLOLOL! But yes, ballers throwing big money around makes a difference, but for us regular, middle class, discplined mongers who know how to hold the line for a fair price (the girls know who we are and act accordingly), I actually think that knowing and understanding the exchange rate, its impact on pricing, and how to manuever within it is far more important when it comes to getting a fair price. I'm saying that at the end of the day, I just don't think the ballers are affecting things for us as badly as it might seem. The girls know we aren't going to pay what a baller is going to throw around like play money. But yet, they need our money to be in the market too in order to survive. Bottom line is that you can't and shouldn't just ignore the impact of the exchange rate. Because I can assure you the tutes sure don't! If the exchange rate sinks back down to 3 to 1 someday (or even lower), then rest assured the price in reals can and [B]will[/B] go right back down too. It's about that exchange rate. The tutes know it, and we need to know it and work it too!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3069946]Hit Gauguin last night and had another damn good time.
The house band was straight fire. They were running classic rock all night and I found myself singing right along with them. Bon Jovi, Livin' on a Prayer, all that good stuff. Man, the music was A+ quality. Rock on, fellas.
Ended up spending time with three different garotas.
First up was Helen, a short blonde from Florianpolis. If you've been around Instagram, you've probably seen her. She's got plenty of bikini pics floating around. She also works at CLnica Miruna and Luminia Spa under a different name. At first she's shy and reserved, but once she gets comfortable, it's a whole different story. Cute, natural blonde with a sweet look. I think I reviewed her on GP-Guia a few months back.
Now, I honestly had no clue what most of the girls were asking for sessions that night. Didn't matter. My number was simple: are $500. Same deal for everybody. Not a real more, not a real less. Every one of them agreed, so I wasn't about to argue.
Next was Ana Paula, a spicy little number from Minas Gerais, 22 years old. Somebody explain to me how Minas keeps producing so many beautiful women. We clicked immediately. I think she originally mentioned are $800 or something along those lines, but by 3 AM the number was are $500 and everybody was smiling. That's how negotiations go sometimes...[/QUOTE]Great report Tochka!
I believe the beauty of Mineiras (Minas Gerais women) is attributable to the wealth effect. Back when MG was raking in massive amounts of gold and diamond beautiful women were drawn (or more aptly recruited) to Minas Gerais. These were women were the original gold diggers! LOL. Given that there are no MG cities that exploded into modern megapolises, this legacy DNA is still very much evident.
Now this is not at all an original idea. In fact, my Mineiro friends explained it this way to me.
Just got an update on flight changes. Landing in at 2 am and probably won't get to hotel till 4 am. I'm hoping it lands earlier and if I do, I would like to hit the ground running. Any suggestions for a quick early morning release before I catch up on sleep? I will be in Vila Olimpia.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3069963]Just got an update on flight changes. Landing in at 2 am and probably won't get to hotel till 4 am. I'm hoping it lands earlier and if I do, I would like to hit the ground running. Any suggestions for a quick early morning release before I catch up on sleep? I will be in Vila Olimpia.[/QUOTE]SBeach, I have nothing for you. 4 am is too late for the boates and good luck trying to arrange for a quality escort. So if it were me, I would accept my fate and give up on finding anything good this late at night. Set your alarm clock for 11 am. Get some sleep. Have breakfast, and hit the clinicas from 12 pm onward. After your 2nd afternoon session, you won't care that didn't immediately score upon arrival.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3069963]Just got an update on flight changes. Landing in at 2 am and probably won't get to hotel till 4 am. I'm hoping it lands earlier and if I do, I would like to hit the ground running. Any suggestions for a quick early morning release before I catch up on sleep? I will be in Vila Olimpia.[/QUOTE]There are clinicas open to 0200 am, with a half sleepy lineup of young scrawny garotas. You can check on gp-guia and kamaww website. I came across at 24 hour clinica but don't remember the name and bailed.
I tried a few of those late night clinicas. When I entered the lobby at 0200 am my immediate reaction was WTF?? It was me and ten other swinging dicks at 0200 am waiting on garotas. Nahh I bailed for Casarao which was still going strong 2 am to 5 am.
A few clinicas such as Miruna stay open to 11 pm (barely).
Or you can use your scandallo wasssp roster of garotas to hook with them at 0400 am or 0430 am at a love motel near scandallo. Or when they get off work at 0100 am -0300 am.
I did that a manyb times to have things lined up.
Based on experience the advice I agree with is to tuck-in, get some sleep, rest, recharge, vitamins, and be supercharged ready to go for back to back three hour duplo session at your favorite clinica.
Barravipsrio yasmin mineira.
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Who has fucked Yasmin, how much did you pay?
After you answer, vagabundo will reveal his answers.
This after all, is what this board is all about, ie, when the penis of vagabundo went into the asshole of Yasmin mineira, and how many oz of gold her paid her, when, why, yadda yasmin. Jota quest, clues there for all.
Thanks for the input. I've ran these simulations in my head to see what is best outcome and its very similar. I'm hoping the flight schedule changes back and land at original 12 am but I find it will be slim. Rest is probably best and do an all day adventure when I get up and have a good meal.
Barravipsrio Yasmin mineira.
[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira[/URL]
Who has fucked Yasmin, how much did you pay?
After you answer, vagabundo will reveal his answers.
This after all, is what this board is all about, ie, when the penis of vagabundo went into the asshole of Yasmin mineira, and how many oz of gold her paid her, when, why, yadda Yasmin. Jota quest, clues there for all.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070102]Thanks for the input. I've ran these simulations in my head to see what is best outcome and its very similar. I'm hoping the flight schedule changes back and land at original 12 am but I find it will be slim. Rest is probably best and do an all day adventure when I get up and have a good meal.[/QUOTE]You will be under a flight path from 6 am so good luck with the rest. There are also numerous helipads on the office blocks of south Itaim Bibi and some of the pilots leave their blades running for half an hour. On the plus side, if the football team win you won't even hear the aircraft.
You will be close to some good high end clinicas (see reports of distinction), they would be my first point of call. The Moema clinicas are about a 30-40 minute walk where you can see lots of anal action (might cost up to 200 R extra) and GG is about a 30 minute walk where the best looking women can be haggled down to around 50% of their opening requests.
[QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3070110]You will be under a flight path from 6 am so good luck with the rest. There are also numerous helipads on the office blocks of south Itaim Bibi and some of the pilots leave their blades running for half an hour. On the plus side, if the football team win you won't even hear the aircraft.
You will be close to some good high end clinicas (see reports of distinction), they would be my first point of call. The Moema clinicas are about a 30-40 minute walk where you can see lots of anal action (might cost up to 200 R extra) and GG is about a 30 minute walk where the best looking women can be haggled down to around 50% of their opening requests.[/QUOTE]I'm staying at the W so I'm hoping I'm far enough. I also contacted the hotel and they assured me the windows are insulated and sun blockers will help me sleep. I used to live in Playa Del Rey next to LAX and my windows were insulated and had no issues so I'm familiar with being near the airport.
I banged her for 150 r in Motel Malaga near Mosaico (best asses in Rio) and Vila Mimosa and Massagemtijuca in 2014, when she first showed up on local boards.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3070106]Barravipsrio Yasmin mineira.
[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira[/URL]
Who has fucked Yasmin, how much did you pay?
After you answer, vagabundo will reveal his answers.
This after all, is what this board is all about, ie, when the penis of vagabundo went into the asshole of Yasmin mineira, and how many oz of gold her paid her, when, why, yadda Yasmin. Jota quest, clues there for all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070188]I'm staying at the W so I'm hoping I'm far enough. I also contacted the hotel and they assured me the windows are insulated and sun blockers will help me sleep. I used to live in Playa Del Rey next to LAX and my windows were insulated and had no issues so I'm familiar with being near the airport.[/QUOTE]It would be interesting to know how you get on with the noise. I stayed two blocks away and while I had a superb time with the women I thought I'd give the area a swerve in the future. I've spent a lot of time at airport hotels and been ok so it might all be quite nuanced. Some planes do land north to south at a very low trajectory, if you waved at the passengers they might notice you.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070188]I'm staying at the W so I'm hoping I'm far enough. I also contacted the hotel and they assured me the windows are insulated and sun blockers will help me sleep. I used to live in Playa Del Rey next to LAX and my windows were insulated and had no issues so I'm familiar with being near the airport.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3070207]It would be interesting to know how you get on with the noise. I stayed two blocks away and while I had a superb time with the women I thought I'd give the area a swerve in the future. I've spent a lot of time at airport hotels and been ok so it might all be quite nuanced. Some planes do land north to south at a very low trajectory, if you waved at the passengers they might notice you.[/QUOTE]I just stayed at the W a few days ago. I am now at the Intercontinental.
The W wants to think of itself as a 5+ star hotel and in many respects it is, but in other areas it kind of falls short. In any case I enjoyed my stay there, on points and Marriott voucher nights although I can't imagine myself spending over $300/ night on the rack rate.
The good:
1. Very friendly staff and super girl friendly hotel. In fact one night some company threw a private party at the W and invited around 30 girls to help entertain their guests. Valeria and I spotted some of the girls hanging around the hotel entrance when we were going out for dinner one night around 10:30 and Valeria remarked that she had gone on a couple of these jobs before she started working at Scan.
2 a. The hotel has 2 very good restaurants. I recommend inviting one of your girls over for dinner and a shag one night. The rooftop restaurant on the 40th floor offers spectacular views at least as good as those at the Terraco Restaurant in Centro and the food is maybe better.
2 be. The roof top pool next to the restaurant has spectacular views as well. I enjoyed smoking a cubano every morning up there after breakfast. The breakfast buffet, BTW, is real good and the hotel comped it for me which was real nice. While relaxing by the pool it was cool to watch several helicopters land each morning on nearby buildings. I could also see the airport way off in the distance and see / hear planes flying overhead.
3. I could also see the helicopters from my hotel room, but there was zero noise. Excellent sound insulation. And the electrically controlled sun blocker curtains are very effective.
4. The hotel has a good location with a major high end shopping mall 1 block away, and it is in an interesting neighborhood which borders Itaim Bibi.
So, what's not to like? Well, you tell me SBeach after your stay. KKK.
[QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3070207]It would be interesting to know how you get on with the noise. I stayed two blocks away and while I had a superb time with the women I thought I'd give the area a swerve in the future. I've spent a lot of time at airport hotels and been ok so it might all be quite nuanced. Some planes do land north to south at a very low trajectory, if you waved at the passengers they might notice you.[/QUOTE]Distance from W to Airport is about 5. 5 km. So not too close. From what I've read, the airport has a curfew from 11 pm to 6 am. I have Porto classes in the morning so I can't be too active too long in the evening. Weekends, well that's all fun activities. LOL.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070231]Distance from W to Airport is about 5. 5 km. So not too close. From what I've read, the airport has a curfew from 11 pm to 6 am. I have Porto classes in the morning so I can't be too active too long in the evening. Weekends, well that's all fun activities. LOL.[/QUOTE]Who do you take Portugues classes with?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3070212]I just stayed at the W a few days ago. I am now at the Intercontinental.
The W wants to think of itself as a 5+ star hotel and in many respects it is, but in other areas it kind of falls short. In any case I enjoyed my stay there, on points and Marriott voucher nights although I can't imagine myself spending over $300/ night on the rack rate.
The good:
1. Very friendly staff and super girl friendly hotel. In fact one night some company threw a private party at the W and invited around 30 girls to help entertain their guests. Valeria and I spotted some of the girls hanging around the hotel entrance when we were going out for dinner one night around 10:30 and Valeria remarked that she had gone on a couple of these jobs before she started working at Scan.
2 a. The hotel has 2 very good restaurants. I recommend inviting one of your girls over for dinner and a shag one night. The rooftop restaurant on the 40th floor offers spectacular views at least as good as those at the Terraco Restaurant in Centro and the food is maybe better.
2 be. The roof top pool next to the restaurant has spectacular views as well. I enjoyed smoking a cubano every morning up there after breakfast. The breakfast buffet, BTW, is real good and the hotel comped it for me which was real nice. While relaxing by the pool it was cool to watch several helicopters land each morning on nearby buildings. I could also see the airport way off in the distance and see / hear planes flying overhead.
3. I could also see the helicopters from my hotel room, but there was zero noise. Excellent sound insulation. And the electrically controlled sun blocker curtains are very effective.
4. The hotel has a good location with a major high end shopping mall 1 block away, and it is in an interesting neighborhood which borders Itaim Bibi.
So, what's not to like? Well, you tell me SBeach after your stay. KKK.[/QUOTE]I used my Amex Plat perks for 2 nights so it worked out to about $225 per night add the $100 in credit which I booked back in March. Thank you for the advices given. I was hoping maybe during happy hour I see a few talents hanging out at the bar in the hotel and pick up one. Saw the fotos they posted on their page on the Heli pads which is cool. I'll definitely post what my experience is when I check out and go to the Airbnb. First, I'm going to do the FIFA for a game in Mexico (Colombia) and the other in LA (Spain). I'll do a quick Tijuana run to the border and head back to LAX to fly to SAO. But this is good stuff to know! I'm taking every advice given as to make sure I have a good time in Brazil. Thanks to you and all.
[QUOTE=Combo;3070242]Who do you take Portugues classes with?[/QUOTE]I've narrowed my choices to Idiomas 2 Go and Fala Ai. I will visit them when I land and see how each facilities is and see which fits best for me.
Idiomas2 Go has two locations (Moema and Pualista). I prefer and like the Moema because its close to the massages and if I wanted a club, I can go to GG and Cafe.
Fala Ai is in Paulista but has locatons in Rio and Floripa. I like this because if I wanted Scan or Casa I can go after classes and gym from there. Also, I can go to any of these two cities and continue my classes if needed.
Do you have recommendations?
P.S. I'm killing in on DuoLingo. Its like all my bad spanish is basically Portuguese. LOL.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070249]I've narrowed my choices to Idiomas 2 Go and Fala Ai. I will visit them when I land and see how each facilities is and see which fits best for me.
Idiomas2 Go has two locations (Moema and Pualista). I prefer and like the Moema because its close to the massages and if I wanted a club, I can go to GG and Cafe.
Fala Ai is in Paulista but has locatons in Rio and Floripa. I like this because if I wanted Scan or Casa I can go after classes and gym from there. Also, I can go to any of these two cities and continue my classes if needed.
Do you have recommendations?
P.S. I'm killing in on DuoLingo. Its like all my bad spanish is basically Portuguese. LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't. Have never taken Portuguese classes in Brazil or elsewhere. I've watched movies and read in Portugues. I speak Spanish which helps (though they're plenty different) and then just making myself talk to Brazilians when I'm in country. But I would love to have a capable private teacher for a hour or two a day when on vacation.
[QUOTE=Combo;3070261]I don't. Have never taken Portuguese classes in Brazil or elsewhere. I've watched movies and read in Portugues. I speak Spanish which helps (though they're plenty different) and then just making myself talk to Brazilians when I'm in country. But I would love to have a capable private teacher for a hour or two a day when on vacation.[/QUOTE]I have taken Spanish for a couple of weeks of 3 hours / day lessons at EAFIT in MDE. Was a good decision and hoping to repeat the same as well in SP. It helped a lot. I think 2 weeks of 3/ hours a day should put me on the right path. The two institutions offer the CELPE-Bras exam prep as well if one should wish to live in Brazil.
1. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin?
I arrive Saturday and stay till next Saturday??
2. Should I get some money exchange at the bank in the USA To make it easier?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070400]1. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin?
I arrive Saturday and stay till next Saturday??
2. Should I get some money exchange at the bank in the USA To make it easier?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Tues-Thurs are the best nights at Scan. Saturday is pretty slow at all boates so you can try the other ones. That is what I usually do. Hit up Ganguin on Friday and usually reserve Saturday and Sunday nights for repeat dates.
I always bring cash to exchange since you will get a better rate in Brasil vs your bank. If you are staying in Jardin Paulista, this is where I exchange my money and they always give a very good rate. Bring only $100 new blue bills.
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[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070400]1. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin? I arrive Saturday and stay till next Saturday?[/QUOTE]I've always had a good time at Scandallo, including on Saturday nights that I would not characterize as being "slow". The place was packed! Live band. Just rocking! I even went on a Monday night once and it was better than I thought it would be (but not nearly as good as Thursday through Saturday). Go to any of the clubs during the Thursday through Saturday timeframe for a shot at the best crowds and energy. Yep, I have been on Friday and it was good then too. In my view, the closer to the weekend the better (but Sunday is not an option). Guys who keep saying Saturdays at Scandallo are no good I have no clue what they're talking about. Has never been my experience there. In fact, Saturdays have typically been my preferred night. And regulars here know how much I like Scandallo! I plan to do Thursdays and Saturdays the next time. I am The Cane. The first of the ISG OGs of Scandallo! Singing its praises before anyone else here was. And thats facts!
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070400]
2. Should I get some money exchange at the bank in the USA To make it easier?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Unless you are trying to minimize the paper trail for one reason or another, you'll get the best rates withdrawing it locally with a debit card. The quick math from my last ATM visit:
USD to BRL was 5. 06.
I withdrew 2000 R, +20 ATM fee.
$399.45 debited from my account.
That works out to 5. 057, so there's no way anywhere else is going to match that. Even if you factor the Brazilian bank's fee in, that works out to about 5. 01. Again I don't see any cambio beating that.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3069946]Hit Gauguin last night and had another damn good time.
The house band was straight fire. They were running classic rock all night and I found myself singing right along with them. Bon Jovi, Livin' on a Prayer, all that good stuff. Man, the music was A+ quality. Rock on, fellas.
Now, I honestly had no clue what most of the girls were asking for sessions that night. Didn't matter. My number was simple: are $500. Same deal for everybody. Not a real more, not a real less. Every one of them agreed, so I wasn't about to argue.
Next was Ana Paula, a spicy little number from Minas Gerais, 22 years old. Somebody explain to me how Minas keeps producing so many beautiful women. We clicked immediately. I think she originally mentioned are $800 or something along those lines, but by 3 AM the number was are $500 and everybody was smiling. That's how negotiations go sometimes. Kkk.
.[/QUOTE]Hey Tochka,
To clarify, that's 500 R for an hour? I just returned to SP and Gauguin was already on my list, but I was expecting 800-1000 R there from what I had read. At 500 R, that's basically Casarao pricing with Scandallo atmosphere.
For Scandallo, Wednesday and Thursday will have the most amount of girls and guys. When they have special / famous live music acts, it will usually be on Wed and Thurs. Those 2 days are also the preferred nights locals visit as they are good days to take clients or use business dinner as an excuse to visit.
Then Tues is the next busiest night, followed by Friday. Many locals guys spend Friday and Saturday with their family and significant others. Monday is usually the slowest as it's the start of the work week for most guys.
Girls who "grind it out" will work 5 days a week to continuously get free admission. They can choose to take Saturday or Mondays off and change that from week to week.
Saturday can be hit or miss, as it is a day / night that many local Asians visit. Local Asians tend to work hard M-F and then relax on Saturday. I've seen Saturdays where half or more of the guys are Asians. So girls that tend to attract Asian clients (Thin, pale skin, cute / pretty face, etc.) would choose to take Monday off and work on Saturday. I've seen Saturdays that are as busy as Tues to Thurs and other Saturdays that are as slow as Mondays.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3070505]Hey Tochka,
To clarify, that's 500 R for an hour? I just returned to SP and Gauguin was already on my list, but I was expecting 800-1000 R there from what I had read. At 500 R, that's basically Casarao pricing with Scandallo atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Gauguin Club Pricing & Strategy Confirmations.
Confirming the question about the 500 BRL pricing at Gauguin Club: **Yes, 500 BRL an hour is absolutely accepted by the garotasas well as 600 BRL and 800 BRL. I have personally documented paying each of those rates when offered by slim, blonde *branca* garotas.
Here is how the pricing dynamics play out throughout the night, along with the strategy I used:
Early Entry (Before 9:00 PM) If you arrive early for the entry discount, the garotas will initially high-ball you, asking for 1,000 BRL down to 800 BRL.
Midnight Rush: Around midnight, the English-speaking "bikini teams" in sexy, slinky dresses will approach me two at a time, holding firm at 800 BRL each. After a pair left when I offered 500 BRL each, the next pair of Portuguese-speaking blondes in red dresses tried their luck (they absolutely love their red dresses in Gauguin).
The Late-Night Sweet Spot (2:00 AM – 3:00 AM): This is when all pretense is dropped. As the night winds down, more garotas accept their 500 BRL fate. I was able to line up back-to-back sessions at this rate.
My Club Setup & Strategy:
Location: I don't waste money & time booking a table or a bucket. I hang out at the back bar across from the shark tank, sit in the center seats and circulate the club. I don't anchor to a table. This gives me a prime view of all the garotas circulating the club.
Drinks: I buy a single large bottle of whiskey and drink from that. If a garota wants a drink, she drinks my whiskey or *água de coco* or redgebull —nothing else on my dime.
Attire: There are plenty of biz guys in black suit jackets & black tshirts trying to impress their GDP. Not me. I wear bermudas or cargo pants, sneakers (*tênis* a tight gym shirt, to show off my workout. Kkk. And a jacket (because São Paulo nights are cold and rainy outside).
I never speak to them in English; I only use Brazilian slang. I specifically target the single, young out-of-towners—girls from Minas Gerais (MG) or Goiás (GO) who are newer to the club and the city. The resson why were widely discussed, the MG girls are pretty as hell.
The Follow-Up: I always secure their WhatsApp (Zap) and Instagram to set up love motel threesomes later in the week.
Bottom Line: Yes, 500 BRL, 600 BRL, and 800 BRL are all accepted by the garotas. However, your experience and results will vary from mine based on your timing, negotiation, language, and which night. I personally prefer rock & roll music night.
Have fun out there, and post your experiences!
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3070508]Saturday can be hit or miss, as it is a day / night that many local Asians visit. Local Asians tend to work hard M-F and then relax on Saturday. I've seen Saturdays where half or more of the guys are Asians. So girls that tend to attract Asian clients (Thin, pale skin, cute / pretty face, etc.) would choose to take Monday off and work on Saturday. I've seen Saturdays that are as busy as Tues to Thurs and other Saturdays that are as slow as Mondays.[/QUOTE]Think about it. I coined the place "the baddest puta palace on the planet" from going mostly on Saturday night. So, Saturdays can't be all that bad if they left me with that impression! I have only been on a Monday once and I have never seen it like that on a Saturday ever. I wonder if the time of the year might have anything to do with it too? I tend to go January thru March or October thru December. I avoid their winter (our summer months). Any way you cut it, the mongering gods have been on my side every single time because I've scored nothing but hits at Scandallo on Sao Paulo Saturday nights! Must be the Asian in me. I do like the brancas! But speaking of Asians, there was one Saturday I went a long time ago when I did notice a lot of Asian men there. But, it was like that only one time. I have not really noticed that since. Not saying it isn't true. Just saying I've only seen it once. I'm sticking to Thursday thru Saturday.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3070520]Gauguin Club Pricing & Strategy Confirmations.
The Late-Night Sweet Spot (2:00 AM 3:00 AM): This is when all pretense is dropped. As the night winds down, more garotas accept their 500 BRL fate. I was able to line up back-to-back sessions at this rate.[/QUOTE]And there's the catch. I don't like to wait until 2 am to 3 am to butt fuck a pretty, blonde branca. By that time, I'm ready to go to sleep hahaha! So, at a Gaugin, I'm quite happy to pay a little premium to fornicate much earlier in the evening. From 500 reals to 800 reals (my preferred max at Gaugin) to 1,000 reals? That's not going to break me. So, ladies let's get it on!
Spent only a couple days in Sao Paulo first time here, so unfortunately I didn't get to go to any of the clubs. Went to a lot of casas though because I was able to hop in and out very easily if I didn't like the selection. Sadly it's been a couple of months since I visited so my memory is already a bit foggy will do my best to recollect prices and addresses though.
Clinica is the casa equivalent in Colombia so I wanted to try them all here.
Clinica 1: Evidence Massagem.
1 hour 230 reals. 30 minutes 180 reals.
They have a website and a whatsapp, so you can just message them on up-to-date prices and who is available. My first casa when landing in Brazil and one of the cheaper ones.
Unfortunately when I get there and see the girls in person, they look pretty different from what was being shown in the website, but since I was horny I said sure.
I end up sessioning with Honey who has curly red hair. She gives me a half decent massage and then we get to business. She had a nice body but giant fake tits, which I wasn't crazy about unfortunately. We did various positions but I wasn't able to cum. There is a bench where you can fuck them which was pretty interesting, but it wasn't enough. No kissing either, and so that was it.
There was another girl with short black hair that also looked doable, but I wanted to see if there were better chica selections.
I pay and there is a 10 real fee for using credit card. Which isn't too bad for the convenience. Not as bad as 10%. We will get there later. On to the next clinica.
Clinica 2: Casa de Massagem Vila Leopoldina.
1 hour 600 reals full service. Other options I didn't even bother remembering since this was the only one that allowed penetration.
Had a much better selection than the previous casa, but of course the price was way higher. 5-6 chicks total, and the one I was interested in a brunette flakita wasn't there, so the owner had to call her on WhatsApp. He was a chill guy. He owned the whole building which was actually really nice, but the rooms were kind of bare bones unfortunately. Just a mattress in the middle of the room and no shower attached.
Anyway, she arrives and thankfully this time it's not catfish. She looks like her pictures but just a little more tan so I say yes.
We start off with a BBBJ and it feels great, but I jacked off the other night so my sensitivity was low, so it didn't take long for her to get tired and flip over.
We try a couple of positions from cowgirl, doggystyle and missionary, but I still wouldn't cum. Meanwhile as I am doing this I try to kiss her. Initially there is resistance, but after a while she relents because she understands it will make me cum easier.
However, I still don't cum so in the end she just jackhammers my dick and then I release. I ask for her WhatsApp, but unfortunately she won't give it to me. Makes sense though given how much I made her work LOL. She also asks for a tip at the end. Usually I would ignore this, but given that she had to take a taxi over and worked hard to make me cum, I decide to give it her a 100 real tip. Never again though because as I was about to pay the host springs a 10% fee on me for using credit card! As a result my total was 770 (600+ 100 + 10% tip). Definitely not worth it with all those extra fees.
I would consider coming back again if I bring cash, but definitely soured a future trip because of the extra fee. Still had the hottest chicks of all the other casas though!
Clinica 2.5.
I check out a couple of other spas after that to see if I can find any hidden gems. Unfortunately the ones I went to: Clinica Tokio and Clinica Yankin.
Had a selection I didn't enjoy so didn't end up sessioning. If you have time to check them out though, might still be worth it.
Clinica 3: Abbóbora?
Final Clinica I ended up sessioning at. Unfortunately, I'm not 100% sure it was this one because there were 2 other Clinicas in the area. Moema Spa and Clinica Cariná. However, I will account my story anyway.
I think one hour here was 400. So a bit mid ranged in terms of quality. This one had a lot of chicks. I counted at least 8 when they did a presentación. I end up setting with an enthusiastic brunette with big tits, but I kinda wish I did the flakita with glasses instead.
The rooms here are pretty nice. The bathroom is attached, and it honestly feels like a hotel. Great AC too.
That's where the praise ends though. The chick I picked ended up being a bad choice because no DFK and her balloon tits unfortunately didn't feel that nice to squeeze. She made a good effort though and did her best to be enthusiastic, but I also found her face to be not the best as well after good lighting.
An hour passes and I still don't cum. She asks if I want an extension and I say no thanks.
Overall 1/3 hits not the best track record, though some of it was due to my physical condition at the time. Was slightly jetlagged when I first arrived and got sick at the tail end of my trip. Definitely worth checking out though if you're not a club person. I will have to try some of the clubs if I ever get a chance next time. Personally though, still prefer Rio for just having the beach vibes.
[QUOTE=Pokemonger;3070561]Spent only a couple days in Sao Paulo first time here, so unfortunately I didn't get to go to any of the clubs. Went to a lot of casas though because I was able to hop in and out very easily if I didn't like the selection. Sadly it's been a couple of months since I visited so my memory is already a bit foggy will do my best to recollect prices and addresses though.
Clinica is the casa equivalent in Colombia so I wanted to try them all here.
Clinica 1: Evidence Massagem.
1 hour 230 reals. 30 minutes 180 reals.
They have a website and a whatsapp, so you can just message them on up-to-date prices and who is available. My first casa when landing in Brazil and one of the cheaper ones.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.
May I ask why you wondered out to Vila Leopoldina / Lapa neighborhood? Most gringos would not wander out pass Vila Madalena.
Speaking of Honey, if you mean mel on the website, I sessioned with her a few months ago in Yankin or Tangara. Ok service.
Abbobora is a great day time spot for hot women but the receptionist is a pain to deal with.
Anyways, hope you enjoy SP.
1. Which hotel do you all recommend and is girl friendly near Paulista area. I want to be 30-40 minute uber ride from Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin.
2. is it easier to just take cash with you and exchange in Sao Paulo?
Is it ok to leave the money in a safe in the hotel?
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070755]1. Which hotel do you all recommend and is girl friendly near Paulista area. I want to be 30-40 minute uber ride from Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin.
2. is it easier to just take cash with you and exchange in Sao Paulo?
Is it ok to leave the money in a safe in the hotel?[/QUOTE]1) I don't know your budget but I always stay at the Renaissance. Super girl friendly. Approx 40 minutes to Scandello and GG and about 10 minutes to Casarao.
2) yes. I do this all the time. I exchange at this place and it is a comfortable walk from the Renaissance. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/fPWcVHT75hGyv1Ut9?g_st=[/URL].
3) yes. I always do this.
The area around the Renaissance is very safe and is a nice area tk walk around and there are lots of little shops, restaurants and bars around.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070755]2. is it easier to just take cash with you and exchange in So Paulo?[/QUOTE]On your question number 2, rather than haul a bunch of cash around, I think it's easier (and better) to just get a good debit card and pull cash from the ATMs as you need it. It's just safer for you that way not to be carrying a bunch of cash. The Schwab debit card is a monger debit card of choice (there are others). It's widely accepted, and they refund all ATM fees at the end of each month. If you use an ATM, never use one that's easily accessible right from the street since those are easier for crooks to mess with. Always stick to the ones located inside of a secure, enclosed space.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3070768]The Schwab debit card is a monger debit card of choice (there are others). It's widely accepted, and they refund all ATM fees at the end of each month. If you use an ATM, never use one that's easily accessible right from the street since those are easier for crooks to mess with. Always stick to the ones located inside of a secure, enclosed space.[/QUOTE]To add on to the OP. I've had Schwab since 2006 and been all over the world with it. Never an issue. They are also very good at sending you a new one should you loose it anywhere. Lost mine somewhere in MXCD. Got a replacement in 2 days FedEx. Since we are on the topic of ATM's, what is the best Bank to use in SP? I've used Santander many times. What ATM should I use in GRU airport when I land?
The last one you described sounds like Abbobora.
[QUOTE=Pokemonger;3070561]Spent only a couple days in Sao Paulo first time here, so unfortunately I didn't get to go to any of the clubs. Went to a lot of casas though because I was able to hop in and out very easily if I didn't like the selection. Sadly it's been a couple of months since I visited so my memory is already a bit foggy will do my best to recollect prices and addresses though.
Clinica is the casa equivalent in Colombia so I wanted to try them all here.
Clinica 1: Evidence Massagem.
1 hour 230 reals. 30 minutes 180 reals.
They have a website and a whatsapp, so you can just message them on up-to-date prices and who is available. My first casa when landing in Brazil and one of the cheaper ones.
Unfortunately when I get there and see the girls in person, they look pretty different from what was being shown in the website, but since I was horny I said sure...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070843]To add on to the OP. I've had Schwab since 2006 and been all over the world with it. Never an issue. They are also very good at sending you a new one should you loose it anywhere. Lost mine somewhere in MXCD. Got a replacement in 2 days FedEx. Since we are on the topic of ATM's, what is the best Bank to use in SP? I've used Santander many times. What ATM should I use in GRU airport when I land?[/QUOTE]I prefer Bradesco and Santander. I never get money at the airport, and wait until I'm in the town to do that. But these days, I usually don't need to get any money right away since I normally have some left over from my last trip (currently R3, 320). I don't mind holding some cash in reals and euros because I know it will be spent on future trips. The thread for taking a deeper dive into this topic is here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2656-Real-vs-Dollar-and-other-currency-issues[/URL]
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070843]what is the best Bank to use in SP? I've used Santander many times. What ATM should I use in GRU airport when I land?[/QUOTE]The nearest Santanders to W hotel were oddly uninterested in accepting European bank cards. There is a 24 hour ATM in the mall next to your place but it only has a 1000 R withdrawal limit. I resorted to taking out 1000 R every time I passed a mall, they all have a 24 HR ATM but they can be annoyingly tucked away in some hidden corner. At the clinicas you can pay the full bill by card or in some you pay the house on card and the lady with cash. At GG I paid the final bill and room with card and then the lady with cash. GG seemed to charge 15% to pay the lady with a card.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070843]To add on to the OP. I've had Schwab since 2006 and been all over the world with it. Never an issue. They are also very good at sending you a new one should you loose it anywhere. Lost mine somewhere in MXCD. Got a replacement in 2 days FedEx. Since we are on the topic of ATM's, what is the best Bank to use in SP? I've used Santander many times. What ATM should I use in GRU airport when I land?[/QUOTE]I completely agree about Charles Schwab and I would never want to travel without it. The ATM refunds are fantastic, but so are their conversion rates and frankly their customer service as well is top notch.
In Brazil Santander is #1 in my experience. I always make a point to locate one near where I stay. Their terminal actually has an option for English and is easy to navigate plus they are everywhere. Many of the random ATMs make it very challenging to decline their awful conversion rate, to the point where I had to actually check my statement and do the math to be sure. The one thing to look out for when you use a Santander ATM, be sure to see what bills it says it has and always pull out larger amounts. If you take out less than 1500 you tend to get a lot of 50 R notes, and sometimes if the machine is out of 100 R you only get 50 Rs. However it always lists the bills on hand in the top right corner, so if it doesn't have 100 R I would recommend going elsewhere. I am not positive on their max withdraw limit, but I typically do 2 x 2000 R and have no problems with that.
Can't speak to the airport, haven't had to do that one yet.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3070881]I completely agree about Charles Schwab and I would never want to travel without it. The ATM refunds are fantastic, but so are their conversion rates and frankly their customer service as well is top notch.[/QUOTE]Another great feature with the Schwab debit card is that after you've used it, you can then lock it via your phone so that it can't be used again until you yourself unlock it again. This is great extra-added security that prevents thieves from getting their scummy hands on your money.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3070843]... What ATM should I use in GRU airport when I land?[/QUOTE]Assuming you arrive in Terminal 3, there's an ATM located in the baggage claim area just as you enter from the Immigration desks. Because it's in a secure location, I feel safe using it. I wouldn't use any of the ATMs landside at GRU.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;3070889]Assuming you arrive in Terminal 3, there's an ATM located in the baggage claim area just as you enter from the Immigration desks. Because it's in a secure location, I feel safe using it. I wouldn't use any of the ATMs landside at GRU.[/QUOTE]Based on info provided on this board in late Jan 2026, I looked long and hard for this supposed ATM at GRU baggage claim for terminal 3. This was on Feb 27. I can assure you: there is no such ATM. I looked all over for it. It does not exist. I asked a female official who worked there at baggage claim (Terminal 3) where the ATM was: she said you had to exit baggage claim to find an ATM. So maybe there used to be one there, but not now. Anyway, I would be curious what anyone else finds who seeks out this mystery ATM. Let us know if you found it. I myself will be flying back to Sao Paulo in six days, so I will check it out again too.
I am also going to check out for the first time the Bradesco ATMs which are said to be located at terminal 2 mid-level (in the direction of terminal 3 by the SUBWAY restaurant). More than one person has said that these ATMs exist between T2 and T3, so I am going to seek them out.
1. Should I leave my cell phone in the hotel.
2. Should I buy a phone there?
3. what about the technical issues sim card, activation, etc.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3070957]1. Should I leave my cell phone in the hotel.
2. Should I buy a phone there?
3. what about the technical issues sim card, activation, etc.[/QUOTE]I had no issues with my own cellphone while in Brazil. Just used Airalo esim but of course I didn't use my phone for any voice calling nor text messaging. But the esim provided internet service which was all I needed for WhatsApp, Google Maps, Google Translate, etc. If I felt I needed to be careful with my phone in public areas, I simply kept it in my pocket with my hand inside it holding onto my phone or sometimes it was in a fanny pack that was buried underneath rather than over my shirt.
[QUOTE=Tricksta;3070891]Based on info provided on this board in late Jan 2026, I looked long and hard for this supposed ATM at GRU baggage claim for terminal 3. This was on Feb 27. I can assure you: there is no such ATM. I looked all over for it. It does not exist. I asked a female official who worked there at baggage claim (Terminal 3) where the ATM was: she said you had to exit baggage claim to find an ATM. So maybe there used to be one there, but not now. Anyway, I would be curious what anyone else finds who seeks out this mystery ATM. Let us know if you found it. I myself will be flying back to Sao Paulo in six days, so I will check it out again too.
I am also going to check out for the first time the Bradesco ATMs which are said to be located at terminal 2 mid-level (in the direction of terminal 3 by the SUBWAY restaurant). More than one person has said that these ATMs exist between T2 and T3, so I am going to seek them out.[/QUOTE]I last remember using it in '22 or '23, so maybe it's been removed. It was obvious, not hidden at all. I've had BRL on me when I arrived for all my trips since then.
There is free wifi at the airport you can use to get an uber or indrive (usually much cheaper than uber). Both those services and the Brazil version of didi known as 99 accept credit cards via the app or via maquinina (swipe or touchless credit card machine). So there is no need to hunt ATMs in the airport when you can just get off the plane and be on your way into the city right away. Once you are at your hotel or airbnb you can easily find ATMs. I like Bradesco for the reasons others mentioned. ESIMs are more convenient than convincing cell phone shops to sell you a physical SIM without a CPF number.
[QUOTE=Tricksta;3070891]Based on info provided on this board in late Jan 2026, I looked long and hard for this supposed ATM at GRU baggage claim for terminal 3. This was on Feb 27. I can assure you: there is no such ATM. I looked all over for it. It does not exist. I asked a female official who worked there at baggage claim (Terminal 3) where the ATM was: she said you had to exit baggage claim to find an ATM. So maybe there used to be one there, but not now. Anyway, I would be curious what anyone else finds who seeks out this mystery ATM. Let us know if you found it. I myself will be flying back to Sao Paulo in six days, so I will check it out again too.
I am also going to check out for the first time the Bradesco ATMs which are said to be located at terminal 2 mid-level (in the direction of terminal 3 by the SUBWAY restaurant). More than one person has said that these ATMs exist between T2 and T3, so I am going to seek them out.[/QUOTE]
Casarão & Gaugin – Festa Junina & Fresh Talent*.
Last Night (June 2026).
Gaugin & Casarão.
Scouted the Talented Estafanie (20 yo, Casarão fresh from MG).
Damages:500 BRL (negotiated down from 600 BRL) + drinks.
Started the night at Gaugin around 11 pm. Shout out to us night owls. ,The garotas were all dressed in elegant, sexy white dresses. However, it was the exact same lineup as the previous few nights sadly nothing fresh or new. If you're looking for new faces, Gaugin wasn't delivering last night.
I bailed after midnight to head to the reliable spot for fresh, young talent: Casarão.
Casarão (Festa Junina Night!
Casarão was a total blast. They were throwing a *Festa Junina* theme night complete with popcorn, cotton candy, and a mechanical bull.
Highlight of the night Watching drunk ass garotas try to ride a plastic mechanical bull. Yeehaw, giddyup!
Dude Seriously, whatever is in the water in Minas Gerais (MG) needs to be studied, because the women here are jaw dropping cute.
Met Estafanie, standing in front by the cotton candy machine, I spotted her the same time she spotted me. Estafanie a 20-year-old absolute natural beauty. She's a branca with straight black hair (though she mentioned she's a natural blonde who dyes it). I couldn't pass her up.
We headed downstairs to grab drinks and keep the our convo going with my favorite bartender.
Shit her killer smile got me hooked.
PSA on Casarão Drink Prices:
As others have mentioned on the forum, the drink pricing here is a total wildcard. These mofos basically make up whatever price they want since there's no itemized receipt to check. Luckily, my favorite bartender reads out for me the exact charges and the number of *ladydrinks* on my Casarão card before I exited, so at least I knew what was what. Keep your eyes on charges on your casarso card!
Estafanie and I hit it off fantastically.
Asking Price:600 BRL.
Counter-Offer: 500 BRL + sharing a *marola* in the room.
Immediate Deal struck. I guarantee when she discovers scandsllo she will be bringing down 2000 brl or 2500 brl a session.
She shared her Instagram page so we could stay connected. She is a stunning, fresh face from the interior. We headed to the room for an epic, hours-long marathon.
Casarão after midnight remains the great spot for fresh, young, new talent coming out of the MG interior. You need to know how to spot the newer garotas in casarao which aint hard after a few visits. Kkkk.
Yes, speaking some Brasilian Porto is highly recommended at Casarão. However, the newer generation of garotas has their eyes glued to their iPhones and actually knows enough basic English to get by, so don't be too intimidated.
This month is *Festa Junina* season, throw on your best farmer flannel shirt, mine is a red xadres get ready to donsome square dancing, and enjoy taking your favorite garota (s) to a festa junina festival. . Hee-haw!
São Paulo Day 1 —.
Back after 6 months to Brazil. São Paulo a few days then Rio a couple days.
Landed Thursday and took me an hour to get to the Airbnb. GRU airport is so far away.
Got in and freshened and set everything up.
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Appointment at Baronesas Spa with a cute little bit older light skin blonde highlights chick with a nice figure. Silicone boobs though.
Traffic is atrocious in the early evening and I arrive late but they roll with it.
Its 780 brl for the hour standard room;.
Appointment is ok, the clinicas are a little clinical in my opinion so unless the girl is super smoking hot which is almost never the case, it's kind of boring for me at this point.
CBJ but I didn't really care in this instance. This would be made up for later in the evening. Smashed her for a little bit and came fast since I had stored up for a couple days. She was a really good massager so I figured let me get value from this by easing the tension from the travel. She really helped me ease up by back, neck, and hamstrings, legs, even though that was not the intent of the visit LOL.
Nice, pleasant chick, even spoke multiple languages. She wanted to give me her number for repeat but I just deleted it later I mean there are just too many options in São Paulo.
The clinicas are hit or miss-mostly miss. There's no chance to feel out the vibe and chemistry of the chick beforehand and it's all a bit mechanical. If you have been on a dry spell and are on a tight budget and also do research on the gp-guia forums before hand, probably it's still a good option but I think I'm going to stop vetting these unless I really feel the need to.
Having said that, Baronesas is one of the better ones with the customer service and selection, even if it is more pricey.
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Scandallo logistics.
Head back to grab dinner, freshen up and head over to Scandallo at around 11:30 PM with a wingman.
Before I get into it. I am going to give a logistics crash course based on this and my prior visit.
Your uber pulls into the lower level where security will pat you down and send you into the lobby where there are some long reception counters like a hotel lobby. They check ID and give you your card, which is like an arcade card. You use it for spending on all your food and drinks (we'll get to the women in a bit) at the end before you pay all at once and leave at the same reception counters. When you leave they'll show you a receipt broken down by line item of everything you ordered which you can verify.
Cover is 600 brl of which 400 brl is consumable (go before 7 pm to save the 200 extra on cover). However this is supposedly subject to increase randomly when there are big events. You can text them on WhatsApp in advance to confirm.
From the reception you enter one of two big elevators which go between 0 and 1 (lobby and main level). Main level has a 1) large restaurant area immediately to the right, 2) main club area with live music and bars, and then further in, an 3) outdoor patio area with large bar and ability to order food too I think. All three areas are awesome in their own way. And it's usually pretty crowded with women of all types everywhere and well dressed but also a good amount of guys.
The restaurant has incredible food. Consider combining your lunch or dinner there. Nothing is cheap but it delivers on quality and variety. My only main complaint with Scandallo is how much they mark up all their drinks, it's like 20 usd for a basic cocktail but anyways you are paying for the atmosphere and the experience. You hit your consumable 400 easily with food and beverage.
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So anyways, back to the story. Interspersed with more logistics.
We decide to get food first. Some seasoned fish, sushi and cocktails. Delicious. We are chilling at our table waiting for food and a couple girls come over. We kind of expected this, most give you eyes but a few will just actually open you. We make small talk. Later they claim to be real life GF's and are interested in having a threesome with my wingman. He has had a thing for that lately. I don't think it's the best idea since they were below average for the venue, still cute though.
Amidst all this, another chick comes over. She has a slight Colombian look. A little taller. Jet black hair. Nice curves in the right spots, Light olive skin, Really beautiful face, eyes, smile, perfect teeth and lips wow. And I just loved her dimples next to her smile. Also softer demeanor than the other two more aggressive allegedly lesbo chicks LOL.
I think she only noticed one of the other girls when she came over and when she noticed the other one excused herself as it seemed we were paired up.
But I told her to stay and that the other chicks were with my wingman.
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Negotiating amount -.
We have a good chat and rapport and eventually I tell her for 1250 brl we can go up. She says 2000 brl, I tell her no calmly and go back to eating my food. She says something about how she had to pay 500 brl entrance to work today or whatever. I just shrugged to signal that's not my concern. Then she comes back with 1500 brl. I tell her ok, on the condition we go the full hour with lots of good DFK and GFE. She is happy to agree.
A mistake a lot of guys make including my wingman today is they ask the girl how much and then try to pare it down after she gives a really high number (some stooges even accept their number no questions asked). You should always make the open offer and be leading. It's true in civilian life with women and it's true here as well. From what I have read here. 1000 brl - 1250 brl is a good range for women you are actually attracted to, to open with. They will always ask for more. In this instance I agreed to the 1500 brl since I am so rarely here and she was pleasant to be with and wasn't being sharky and pushy with rapport like many women. However, for anyone coming more regularly than twice a year to Scandallo, I would be more strict with holding your ground and maybe even try to snag some under 1000 brl, but good luck with that with any of the hotter ones. The women are a commodity, yes some are hotter than others, but no one is that special to over pay for.
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MORE Logistics. Built in Scandallo love hotel.
I suggest to her to go dancing a bit in the main club area before heading upstairs. It's just a really fun vibe with the live music and all the activity.
After that, this is how the logistics work.
We go back to elevators and go back down to the reception. There I waited a little for her to get her bag from the (girl's locker room? After that we go up these stairs that are separate from the two main elevators. This takes you to another separate reception area which is for the love hotel part of the establishment. Here you get the room assigned and the girl registers the amount that you agreed upon (in this case 1500 brl). I think you can just pay her directly in cash after between the two of you, but if you pay by card it will get marked up by 10%. I knew this and paid by card (1650 BRL) anyways for the convenience. But keep this in mind, in most cases it makes sense to be ready with cash for the girls payment specifically.
Once you finish, you give the room card back to the reception and now you pay again separately, this time just for the room. The room costs 340 BRL, there is NO 10% markup for that by paying with card, but double check anyways. And always DECLINE the currency conversion. Pay in BRL. If you go over an hour, I believe they will prorate by minute charge you extra per minute. I have not tested this. They have elevators (different ones from the main ones) where you will go up to and down from your room together. It's funny because sometimes you can have multiple couples in the elevator at once, but it's all good fun. The rooms have really nice showers and private toilet. Bed is also quite reasonable. They provide two towels, one for you and one for her.
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Encounter.
We had a great time full of deeper and deeper DFK. When coming time for oral she did briefly reach for the condom but I cut that off politely and told her don't worry it's ok and she was off to the races. There should never be CBJ here. Just politely encourage and say it's ok in any situations where it may be heading in that direction. If it escalates, you can always say you will ask for the manager. Only in extraordinary situations will these these tactics not work. In any case, you should never be paying this sort of top dollar and getting a CBJ. Actually in Brazil, you should never be paying a pro for a CBJ in general.
Anyways, Holy fuck it was a way above average oral. I very nearly came. If I was in my 20's or hadn't nutted earlier in the day, I would've exploded right there. But fortunately didn't and now to the sex. Great tight pussy in side mish the way I like with lots of DFK, GFE. Did that for a good while and then had a nice deep pulsing orgasm, the kind that you don't always get but when it happens; you know you did it right.
We clean up and have a good time chatting after with a translator. She has really warmed up to me at this point. She says that since I will be here for a couple more days to take her number. We aren't able to search it so I give her mine and she messages me. Before, I Would be quite happy to see her again, but seasoned monger me is more interested in future variety with my precious short time here.
This is a good note. If you get good rapport with a girl, you can communicate by WhatsApp and set something up offsite.
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Closing
I head back down in time to meet my wingman who also just wrapped up his session. He said it was decent but not nearly worth the two fees for both chicks. Not a surprise at all.
We go back to the main reception, back up the main elevator and walk around a few minutes in the main area to scope out talent. Just to look. There is still quite a respectable amount of good looking talent at 2:30 AM. It's really quite something.
We head back to the reception to pay. Total damage for me is 690 BRL (200 cover 490 consumables). I pay with credit Card. And we Uber away.
Stay tuned.
Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?
[QUOTE=JacobMann;3071030]So Paulo Day 1 .
Back after 6 months to Brazil. So Paulo a few days then Rio a couple days.
Landed Thursday and took me an hour to get to the Airbnb. GRU airport is so far away.
Got in and freshened and set everything up..[/QUOTE]This was one of the best Scandallo breakdowns I've read. My first trip will be later this year, I will certainly bookmark this post! Thanks!
I recently discovered a post on Reddit where a guy does an outstanding job of comparing the best FKK in Germany today (Sharks) to Scandallo. I know that from time to time the readership here is interested in these kinds of comparisons, and this report is one of the best I have ever seen. If you've ever wondered about the FKKs in Germany, then it's absolutely worth your while to read the report. And even if you're not, then the report is still highly recommended since, over the course of it, he does a commendable job of detailing the ins and outs of Scandallo, which is quite useful for anyone who wants to know more about Scandallo too. And for those of you like me who are already quite familiar with both clubs, and who just love to take in a well-written and entertaining piece, you're going to love this report as well! So, as my favorite librarian used to say, check it out! Here's a link to it:
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3071077]Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?[/QUOTE]I went to a club in Rio at 8:00 pm ("when doors open") to see a band, however I had to hang out until they went on stage at 11:00 pm.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3071077]Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?[/QUOTE]Casarao is strictly late night. But you can go to Scandallo earlier, even in the afternoon. Not as many women and not the same energy as later, but you'll still likely find a hot-looking one. I've done that quite a few times when my flight leaves SP at night.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3071077]Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?[/QUOTE]Because Casarão's crowd skews young party animals. It's ground zero for the late-night Baixo Augusta scene. Take a look around Rua Augusta at 0100 am.
These ain't old dudes needing oatmeal and bran flakes for breakfast. Local Paulistanos are at the botecos on Augusta, filling up, so the club doesn't even get started until after midnight.
It's basically a local bachelor party boate for single and groups of swinging dicks. Guys roll in 5 to 8 deep for the cheap entry just to cop a feel, watch the strip show, and grab a 19-24 yo novinha (tons of young mineiras from MG) to take to the rooms next door.
I've literally stood in line and watched dudes get turned away at the door for being underage and trying to sneak in. You will *never* see that happen at higher-end spots like Scandallo, Gauguin, Café Foto, or Connection. They skew older.
Next time it's packed and you're sitting on that long sofa for a room to open up with your favorite garota on your lap, do the test. Look down the row and quietly ask yourself:
Mofo "Younger than me, or older?" You'll quickly realize who is the oldest gringo in the joint kkkk.
Pro tip: The manager at Casarão has been running the floor for 21 years. He works the register on busy nights. If you want the real history of the scene, chat him up on a slow night. Same goes for Scandallo their managers have 18 to 21 years in the game too. History of how and why they do shit successfully for decades while other spots come and go.
[QUOTE=PdSuave;3071090]This was one of the best Scandallo breakdowns I've read. My first trip will be later this year, I will certainly bookmark this post! Thanks![/QUOTE][QUOTE=JacobMann;3071030]Sao Paulo Day 1 .[/QUOTE]Appreciate it. Here a few extra miscellaneous Scandallo tips from the forum that I can confirm, for the sake of more completeness.
- If you are going to consume a lot of alcohol in a group, or plan to come multiple nights, you can get a bottle and they will store it for you up to several months.
- 340 brl is the charge for the room. If you take a girl out of the club, this changes to a 400 brl takeout fee, so unless you have a specific reason for this, don't do it. After your test drive at the venue, you can get her number and schedule something later and avoid this fee if you want. I think the 10% card fee is not applied to this but you can confirm it.
- For whatever reason, if you take up multiple girls, they charge the 340 brl each time even if you only use one room.
- If you bring a girl to the venue, instead of the usual cover fee scheme, she pays the 400 brl takeout fee and gets no consumable spending from that.
- They are open noon to 5 AM every day but closed Sundays. Saturday has been reported to be the quietest and Thursday the most optimal, and nights better than daytime, but ymmv, try it all out.
[QUOTE=Combo;3071115]Casarao is strictly late night. But you can go to Scandallo earlier, even in the afternoon. Not as many women and not the same energy as later, but you'll still likely find a hot-looking one. I've done that quite a few times when my flight leaves SP at night.[/QUOTE]Hey, I was looking to go back to SP later in August and I would definitely have a late night flight back to the states. Will Scandello let me store my bag somewhere while I try to go pick some girls up if there are any in the early evening?
[QUOTE=Zeyto;3071126]Hey, I was looking to go back to SP later in August and I would definitely have a late night flight back to the states. Will Scandello let me store my bag somewhere while I try to go pick some girls up if there are any in the early evening?[/QUOTE]Yes. They have a bag check. I do it all the time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3071134]Yes. They have a bag check. I do it all the time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Steve. Would you happen to leave your passport in bag check or carry it on you throughout the club?
[QUOTE=Zeyto;3071135]Thanks for the reply Steve. Would you happen to leave your passport in bag check or carry it on you throughout the club?[/QUOTE]Depends on you and your frame of mind. I'm a glass half full kinda guy. I always leave it in my bag. Never even occurred to me.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3070574]Thanks for the report.
May I ask why you wondered out to Vila Leopoldina / Lapa neighborhood? Most gringos would not wander out pass Vila Madalena.
Speaking of Honey, if you mean mel on the website, I sessioned with her a few months ago in Yankin or Tangara. Ok service.
Abbobora is a great day time spot for hot women but the receptionist is a pain to deal with.
Anyways, hope you enjoy SP.[/QUOTE]Yeah I wouldn't recommend that area to stay in. I only spent a couple days in Sao Paulo when I first arrived in Brazil just to settle in and figure out logistics before going to Rio. Would definitely recommend the other neighborhoods that people have been mentioning. And yes I got the name wrong it was Mel not Honey. Clinicas are okay if you just want to get your rocks off, but not being able to screen chicas makes it less enjoyable in my opinion. Generally cheaper at least.
Can someone share what the interactions with girls look like in Scandallo? Do you approach them or do they approach you? Once you agree on a price, do you need to use the rooms upstairs or can you too go off to your own hotel? What all do they allow I. E. Kissing, role play, act like GF etc. Or is it more like mechanical fuck in the holes and be done with it kind of interaction. Do they agree to stay overnight or stay with you for a couple of days? Is it common? Sorry for many questions, landing next week and info will be helpful. Thank you.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3071105] If you've ever wondered about the FKKs in Germany, then it's absolutely worth your while to read the report.
[POST]3071088[/POST][/QUOTE]Cane,
I think its a fairly solid report, though I wanted to highlight that in my experience the difference in quality of service is truly staggering. Even the few girls I tried multiple times at Sharks were perhaps a B- in service despite us having some real conversations and building a rapport. Typically that be- is the worst I get in Scandallo. Additionally one thing that I don't see talked about much, Sharks doesn't clean the rooms and they don't have showers in them. I'm not a clean freak by any means, but the fact that each girl just changes out the sheet and that's it was not something I would expect from an establishment of that size. Tiny clinicas get better room cleaning between fucks. Then I have to go off and shower in the locker room, and the girl I hope to god showers somewhere too.
Also I just wrapped up my first week in Sao Paulo so quick report time:
Monday: I make a late night trip to Casarao. The building has done some significant renovations since my last visit, and has much more space on the lower level. I end up overpaying for an hour with a gorgeous girl, but we had a great vibe and having just returned to Brazil I didn't want to blow it haggling too much if the pricing scheme had changed.
Tuesday: I make my way to Guaguin a little after 11 pm to see what the hype is about. A local friend talked it up to me as well, so in fairness perhaps between the reports here and him I set the mental bar too high. The club had a good vibe and felt very professional like Scandallo, but the talent lineup was a complete miss for me. I did not see a single girl who really impressed me, it felt like the sort of background characters at Scandallo who I would basically look past without even considering. Attractive enough, but not that I would consider paying for. I looked around for about an hour before getting cornered by a girl who I had no interest in, and after about 20 minutes of that I decided to leave and get some sleep that night. Given the lineup, I did have a bit of sticker shock in seeing my 500 are bill for entry.
Wednesday: I make my way to Scandallo at 10 pm and eat a late dinner. Entry was 600 are with 400 are consumable, so a tiny bump from my last visit. That said, it was absolutely worth it. Scandallo remains the kind of environment I would call an embarrassment of riches. I grabbed some phone numbers, took one to the room for that 1500 are which does seem to be the standard asking price, and had a great night. Attitude makes a world of difference for me, and she was extremely positive, friendly, and upbeat. To give people a sense of the kind of quality the club maintains, I accidentally dropped a 100 are note from my bill fold when paying her, and as I was at the door the girl pointed it out on the bed to me.
Thursday: I make my way to Casarao again, and run into a girl I went with many times on my last visit. She was always lots of fun, and this time was no exception. Back then she did 400 are for a half or 600 are for an hour, and this time was the same. I initially only planned for the half but we quickly ran out of time and she called someone to bring a card reader and I paid to extend the time.
Friday: I had been really enjoying the new Casarao environment so I decided to keep pressing my luck. Did a half hour with a redhead for 400 are, good looking girl and solid service. I decided to stick around late and met a girl who was friends with my Monday girl. She has very good energy and we have chemistry, and I ask how much. Comes back with 500 are for a half, 800 are for an hour which seems to be what everyone is hitting me with these days. I tell her yes, but only if she is willing to do anal. She says no, I say maybe next time then, and then she grabs me and says lets try it. She was fantastic in the room, and didn't try to shy away from anal once we were there which is a thing I have run into before.
Saturday: I push my luck too far with another return to Casarao. There are two stunners who really catch my eye, but they are sitting with guys for literally hours. Meanwhile I don't see any of the other girls I enjoyed previously. Finally a new girl catches my eye, and up close I realize what a spectacular body she is hiding under her dress. She tells me it is her second day in town, and she wants 500 are for a half and 1000 are for an hour. Mostly crucially she says she will only do a CBJ, and there is zero chance I am paying 1000 are for that. Regardless I was enjoying our chat enough I offer her a drink before we part ways, but after getting the drink we kept chatting and I say lets do a half hour and here things get weird. She says she was taught she needs the money before we go next door. Not before we fuck, not before we go to the room, but before we walk up to the checkout. I tried to clarify she understood the layout and that I was not taking her back to my hotel, just next door. I offer to pay her in the hotel lobby which in 70+ visits to Casarao I have done one time, as I would say 60% of girls ask for the money after and maybe 40% once we enter the room. She eventually says at the checkout area would be okay, but still that felt so strange to me I decided with great regret to pass.
In retrospect I wish I had rolled the dice on my 500 are because what I got instead was terrible. I see a girl I had chatted with Friday but decided to pass on, and agree to an hour for 800 are. She agrees to BBBJ but I can tell she would have 100% insisted on a CBJ if I hadn't specified. Not a great sign, but we soldier on. We go to the hotel, and after paying for the room I notice it says 180 are on my receipt. My Porto is still mediocre, but apparently she told the attendant we wanted some new overpriced room. I'm deeply annoyed, but suppress the feeling as not to get us off to a really bad start. The girl proceeds to give me the laziest of blowjobs if you could even call it that, and we have a middling fuck I can't wait to be over.
Sunday: The spirit was willing, but I just couldn't bring myself to hit up Casarao again after that previous night and I wasn't aware of any other Sunday night options. In Casarao I seem to be getting hit with this 800 are stuff constantly, so I intend to start going back to "500 are lets go?" and seeing how that pans out.
I'm going to try Gauguin again at some point this week, and perhaps another Scandallo run, or a stop at Bomboa. I also wanted to mention that more girls have expressed an interest in coming back with me for multiple hours for reasonable-ish rates of 1200-1500. While the current pricing seems quite high to me, I get the sense most have a threshold amount of money they are trying to clear and would be more flexible on time to do it.
EDIT: What is going on with the board editing my post? It seems like a bunch of little things got removed like the mention of reais after each number.
I actually like the vibe at Casarao. And the girls are prettier than before. But prices have gone up a lot and if you try the old pricing you may have a big argument. Happened to me twice. The girls agreed to 500 and I was clear I meant an hour. But in the room they wanted the money up front. I never do this but they were so nice. And then they say times up at 30 or 40 minutes and say no it's 800 for an hour. Maybe but that wasn't what was agreed.
So you can try to go in at 500/ HR but this seems to be the outcome. And it's not like Scan— I don't even know who to complain to. 😂.
Of course I should not have paid before. Just don't do it. Walk away. So that's on me.
That said I did end up taking a girl to my hotel at 5 AM for 1000 and she was great. No quit in that girl. Wrapped up at 6:50 AM. Hahaha.
That report is from my first ever trip to Scandallo. Glad you enjoyed it. I deleted my reddit account because I was deeply hurt by some of the things you said. I was unsuccessful in deleting my ISG account guess it was fate so I could write this comment. Be careful who you're messing with, you might end up looking like a fool.
Evidence.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3017086][URL] https://www.reddit.com/r/FkkSaunaClubs/s/CoVDTbrziE[/URL][/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3071105]I recently discovered a post on Reddit where a guy does an outstanding job of comparing the best FKK in Germany today (Sharks) to Scandallo. I know that from time to time the readership here is interested in these kinds of comparisons, and this report is one of the best I have ever seen. If you've ever wondered about the FKKs in Germany, then it's absolutely worth your while to read the report. And even if you're not, then the report is still highly recommended since, over the course of it, he does a commendable job of detailing the ins and outs of Scandallo, which is quite useful for anyone who wants to know more about Scandallo too. And for those of you like me who are already quite familiar with both clubs, and who just love to take in a well-written and entertaining piece, you're going to love this report as well! So, as my favorite librarian used to say, check it out! Here's a link to it:
[POST]3071088[/POST][/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3066123]But why are you quoting prices for Brazilian establishments in Euros? And writing a long report about FKK Sharks in the Sao Paulo thread instead of in the FKK Sharks thread where FKK aficianados would appreciate it the most?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066259]Already posted in FKK reddit and I'm perfectly fine keeping my amazing experiences to myself. I don't have to post, tbh couldn't care less.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3066328]I can't remember how many times I've felt like telling somebody, "No, please don't try to help me". This is a place for sharing relevant, useful, and accurate information. And it helps when it can be entertaining too! If you can't do that or don't want to do that, then the forum will continue on and prosper as it always has. It's bigger than any one person. And I can assure you that we too have all the information we need. Good luck![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3071405]I actually like the vibe at Casarao. And the girls are prettier than before. But prices have gone up a lot and if you try the old pricing you may have a big argument. Happened to me twice. The girls agreed to 500 and I was clear I meant an hour. But in the room they wanted the money up front. I never do this but they were so nice. And then they say times up at 30 or 40 minutes and say no it's 800 for an hour. Maybe but that wasn't what was agreed.
So you can try to go in at 500/ HR but this seems to be the outcome. And it's not like Scan I don't even know who to complain to. 😂.
Of course I should not have paid before. Just don't do it. Walk away. So that's on me.
That said I did end up taking a girl to my hotel at 5 AM for 1000 and she was great. No quit in that girl. Wrapped up at 6:50 AM. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I completely agree on the new vibe and on the quality. They had some kind of party going on with a mechanical bull, spiced wine, cotton candy, and a few other interesting things, and it made for a fun atmosphere. I wish the prices weren't going up, but thanks for confirming its a more regular thing and not just me falling for gringo pricing.
Back to the hotel for an extended session might be the way to go now. I usually do that for repeats, though I am leery of doing it for a first time. I suppose you just have to roll the dice.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3071443]That report is from my first ever trip to Scandallo. Glad you enjoyed it. I deleted my reddit account because I was deeply hurt by some of the things you said. I was unsuccessful in deleting my ISG account guess it was fate so I could write this comment. Be careful who you're messing with, you might end up looking like a fool.
Evidence.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3066328]You have to know your audience and make it relevant to them. And, I have liked your reports when you put up a good one. I put one in the RODs for crying out loud! Nobody else here did that. But since then, you've been erratic and all over the place. What I really don't like is when someone puts up wrong information, like the girls working at Scandallo are the same ones working at Casarao. Then when pressed, you admitted that per your experience you saw only 5. That doesn't support the oft repeated (but incorrect) claim that all the same girls are working at both places (always asserted only by guys who just don't want to pay Scandallo prices). Many of us have been here a very long time. This is a place for sharing relevant, useful, and accurate information. And it helps when it can be entertaining too! If you can't do that or don't want to do that, then the forum will continue on and prosper as it always has. It's bigger than any one person. And I can assure you that we too have all the information we need. Good luck![/QUOTE]First of all, I thought the report could have been yours, but I couldn't recall if you had mentioned Reddit here or not. Second, you didn't put up everything that I said about this. What did I say? I said that when you wrote up something good, then I did like what you wrote, and I acted accordingly (put it in the RODs when nobody else did for example). Had it been the Reddit report that you wrote that you put here, then I've just shown exactly what I would have done! Look in the FKK RODs and there it is! I don't need a name. If it's good, then it's good! And if it's particularly bad, then it's bad, and I might not hesitate to say so. I've been very consistent.
[QUOTE=ZohanDude;3071318]Can someone share what the interactions with girls look like in Scandallo? Do you approach them or do they approach you? Once you agree on a price, do you need to use the rooms upstairs or can you too go off to your own hotel? What all do they allow I. E. Kissing, role play, act like GF etc. Or is it more like mechanical fuck in the holes and be done with it kind of interaction. Do they agree to stay overnight or stay with you for a couple of days? Is it common? Sorry for many questions, landing next week and info will be helpful. Thank you.[/QUOTE]RTFF and you will get an idea of the interaction with the girls at Scandello. Brazilian girls bring the best IOP (illusion of passion) and it is a full on girlfriend / mistress vibe.
Finally came back to SP after a few months in the south with my future ex. I was eager to come back because SP is a touch warmer (or will be soon kkkkk). The south is not cold for me at all, but due to the lack of insulation in Brazilian construction and the window faced a damn wall, our Airbnb was cold af. I had to buy thermal layers to stay warm. She went back home in Rio favela so I am single again.
Now reports from last week:
So I had been eyeing on this initiate floater Tami for some time now. I finally tracked her down at 57 last week. I immediately booked her and rushed there to fucked her. She turned out to just be alright. Not worth a repeat.
Then on Friday I finally checked out the well discussed Gauguin. First impression is that I really dig it. Definitely cheaper than Scandallo and you really can find gems here. I spotted a amazon princess who goes by the name of Nanda. I honestly had never seen an indigenous woman this beautiful in person so I went up to her while she was making eye contact with me. She quoted me 1,200 but agreed rs 1,000. She did everything I asked so it was well deserved. I meet her again yesterday for 1,500 all day and probably will see her again before this weekend.
BTW, how come Gauguin stay hidden for this long? I read here and gp guide all the time and never came across it. Thanks to whoever brought it up a few months ago.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3071568]Finally came back to SP after a few months construction and the window faced a damn wall, our Airbnb was cold af.
BTW, how come Gauguin stay hidden for this long? I read here and gp guide all the time and never came across it. Thanks to whoever brought it up a few months ago.[/QUOTE]Cane wrote Gauguin.
No, not the famous French artist. The puta palace club in Sao Paulo! Tochka breaks down why it's a "Scandallo Lite":
[URL]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=3058648[/URL]
Reposted report cause link to RoD was acting squirrelly.
Gauguin – Why I call it Scandallo lite.
I've been spending more time at Gauguin lately, and the comparison to Scandallo Lounge keeps holding up. For me the similarities are cool but it operates at a different price point for similar atmosphere.
Why "Scandallo Lite" actually fits.
1. Same family tree of Scandallo DNA, smaller scale.
Gauguin has the same core structure:
• multi-floor layout.
• bar-centered interaction.
• decent rooms upstairs.
• steady rotation of 50-60 garotas sexy garotas, a notch below Scandallo night but equivalent to Scandy 's day shift.
Many of the waiters, security guys, receptionist, wait staff and garotas previously.
Worked at scandallo. Every night there is at least one garota saying she also worked dayshift Scandallo (confirmed) So on day one entering the place I had instant connection with house staff & friendky faces.
2. Reminiscing on Pricing. Gaugin feels like "old Scandallo".
Price of $800 brl for mid tier and $1000 brl for top of the line stunner market. This is one of the biggest reasons for the comparison.
• Garotas: are $500 – are $1000 (top shelf).
• Rooms: are $200.
• Drinks: reasonable.
It reminds me of earlier Scandallo days, when high-level GDP were still around that 1 K range. Ahh. Cane exchange rate was a factor in olden days of less expensive Scandallo. I was there for the NFL bump up in garota price and it never came bsck down.
F1 Week, NFL week and now Leonardo night, has bumped the gartoas asking prices to the stratosphere and have not returned to previous market levels. Scandallo is still my favorite place on earth but they realized dudes paying higher for sessions can afford the higher entrance too kkk.
At Gauguin: speaking basic Portoguese gets you deeper into conversations and clear the expectations in the bedroom.
• more time to talk.
• the garotas interview you too with "21 questions".
If you speak basic Portuguese, this becomes a huge advantage. Conversations with IoP and lustful intentions.
Best nights & timing (very important).
Tuesday–Thursday = strongest lineup.
• 50–60 garotas.
• best rotation that is equivalent to Scandallo day shift.
Weekend (Fri, Sat–Sun) can suck.
• noticeably slower.
• fewer girls.
• less dynamic fun.
Arrival timing tip (same as Scandallo):
• Go before 9 PM for lower entry / consumables, early bird garotas $800 brl pricing levels.
• Early hours = easier conversations.
• Peak = more competition for attention $1000 brl garotas asking price.
Post Peak 2 am and later easier negotiations garotas to accept $500 brl session.
I still kick myself for throwing out $800 brl for duplo session with the blonde swedish bikin team. They accepted too damn quick no negoitation no pausing.
Next night I offered $600 brl, again accepted without pause or hesitation. Finally I anchored on $500 brl and $450 brl accepted after long pause, and mentioning to the garotas its already 2 am garotas. Lower price deals 0200 am-4 am were accepted by some gstotas. I am going to Casarso to pay garotas 500 brl or $600 brl.
Layout & where to sit.
The Long Bar (ground floor). With Sharktank.
• several bar stools filled with garotas. Notice how they try to keep one bar stool open in the middle for potential clients best for first contact.
• high visibility.
Its good spot to checkout the talent while they are checking us out.
Second floor.
• good place for conversation and personal attention, IoP and roaming hands.
• its a quieter spot than the tables in front of the live bands.
Music & atmosphere.
• Live band + DJ.
• A lot of American cover music you instantly recognize.
• Good energy of garotas dancing. Easier to scope the room.
Crowd.
• mostly local business guys.
• some foreigners.
• older, business crowd.
Garotas.
• Daytime scandallo not the night team.
• wearing evening gowns, sexy attractive dresses. Red elegant or white dresses with sexy clingy dress. But not as revealing dresses as garotas in Casarao.
• Tag team.
Pro tip: when two blonde garotas approach you in English at the sametime you are being baited as their next target for duplo session. They already discussed and gossip about you, your clothing, price point, money.
The sexy blonde garota and her damn cute blonde girlfriend have you in their sights. When they introduce themselves in english its ain't a coincidence.
Thr blonde Swedish Bikini team has their prey in sight. Kkk Personally I steer the conversation back to Porto, quote only in BRL. Not buying drinks for either one upfront, nor listening to any quotes in english or in USD. I negotiate only in porto and BRL. And drink from my whiskey bottle. No gin tropical nada except agua de cocoa or hedgebull ad mixer to my whiskey bottle. They keep the bottle for future visits.
Side note for google translate dudes. Use your favorite AI tool for translations it can adapt to local brasilian porto context.
Similar to Scandallo in Gauguin the garotas drinks:
• gin tropical.
• gin + Red Bull.
• água de coco.
Rooms.
• smaller than Scandallo.
• but clean, fresh, well maintained.
• cleaning staff of morenas does a solid job.
• threesome pricing cost extra so get the slightly larger room for three people to be comfortable.
Wrist band. I dislike wearing those stupid wristbands to track consumption, and Casarao wristband system when exit snd retuning to Casarao. Shit if a mom&pop Padeira can use a card system they can too!! Rant over.
Payment insights.
You have two main ways to pay garotas.
1. Charge through the house.
• goes on your credit card.
• club takes a percentage.
• garota gets paid later (2–3 business days).
• requires her to submit and fill out a form with real name, contact info, email to receive her payout.
2. Pay directly her directly using.
• InfinitePay.
• Mercado Pago.
• Stripe links.
• Cash.
• Pix if you have an account.
Increasing I am moving away from cash for safety of the garotas.
• a bunch of degenerate mofo motoboys are specifically targets garotas living the club. They are lurking waiting for perfect moment snatch &grab purses with cash, iphones.
• motoboys are tracking the garotas routines.
Its disappointing to read the instagram posts when their phones, cash, money, purses are taken by motoboys. On metro, or onibus.
Pro tip: I use instagram to stay in touch with club garotas. Whatsapp is good until their iphones are stolen or they change phone numbers. I use three different instagram profiles, one for family and friends, one for the brasilian girlfriend, third profile for GDP and side chick garotas. They post about their lives, bars, selfies, it easy to drop a Oi!! In their DM.
In conversations with GDP some have a Rotation between clubs.
Day shift → Scandallo.
Evening / night → Gauguin.
Late / overflow → Connection / Gauguin / Bomboa.
I don't like Bomboa 222 (too damn small) / Bahamas (is closed now) but had older garotas not worth $1000+ brl) Cafe Photo (expensive, older garotas) Zeus (no reason to repeat). Castetr Club a hood strip club with gems.
Gauguin Location from.
• 10 minute Uber from Moema.
• easy to combine with other stops to Casarão.
Gauguin is not trying to beat Scandallo — it's offering:
• similar structure.
• similar style.
• lower cost + lower pressure + more conversation.
That's why I call it "Scandallo Lite".
You can search other post here or on gpguia, but as always:
YMMV — this is based on my personal experience.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3071405]I actually like the vibe at Casarao. And the girls are prettier than before. But prices have gone up a lot and if you try the old pricing you may have a big argument. Happened to me twice. The girls agreed to 500 and I was clear I meant an hour. But in the room they wanted the money up front. I never do this but they were so nice. And then they say times up at 30 or 40 minutes and say no it's 800 for an hour. Maybe but that wasn't what was agreed.
So you can try to go in at 500/ HR but this seems to be the outcome. And it's not like Scan I don't even know who to complain to. 😂.
Of course I should not have paid before. Just don't do it. Walk away. So that's on me.
That said I did end up taking a girl to my hotel at 5 AM for 1000 and she was great. No quit in that girl. Wrapped up at 6:50 AM. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I was hit with the same scam on my last visit too. She asked for 600 and I countered 400 and she said lets go. After the freaking long wait of 30 minutes, to get a room. We get there and the siren rings after 30 minutes. I exploded and told her it was 1 HR we agreed. She said it wasn't 1 HR but 30 minutes. It soo put me off.
The trick is to make sure when the room rate is being paid, you're are there or pay yourself.
Wednesday: I make my way to Scandallo at 10 pm and eat a late dinner. Entry was 600 are with 400 are consumable, so a tiny bump from my last visit. That said, it was absolutely worth it. Scandallo remains the kind of environment I would call an embarrassment of riches. I grabbed some phone numbers, took one to the room for that 1500 are which does seem to be the standard asking price, and had a great night. Attitude makes a world of difference for me, and she was extremely positive, friendly, and upbeat. To give people a sense of the kind of quality the club maintains, I accidentally dropped a 100 are note from my bill fold when paying her, and as I was at the door the girl pointed it out on the bed to me.
Scandallo rates are becoming crazy and unreasonable. My last visit there I got a sweet heart for 800 reals. All natural. No painted face with make, soft bubble and very fun lively. I had seen some pretty things, but the rates were crazy and I wasn't buying. I was about leaving when I went round the club one more time and saw her at the bar in the open area. I looked at her from far and didn't see much, then turned around and about leaving when she grabbed my hand. Turned around and saw she was very pretty close up and natural. She asked for a 1200 and I said 800 r. She came down to 1000 r and I still stood at 800 r. She agreed and we left. One of my best sessions in Scandallo. At exit my bill was close too 2000 r. Still way too much.
Scandallo rates are becoming crazy and unreasonable. My last visit there I got a sweet heart for 800 reals. All natural. No painted face with make, soft bubble and very fun lively. I had seen some pretty things, but the rates were crazy and I wasn't buying. I was about leaving when I went round the club one more time and saw her at the bar in the open area. I looked at her from far and didn't see much, then turned around and about leaving when she grabbed my hand.
Turned around and saw she was very pretty close up and natural. She asked for a 1200 and I said 800 r. She came down to 1000 r and I still stood at 800 r. She agreed and we left. One of my best sessions in Scandallo. At exit my bill was close too 2000 r. Still way too much.
[QUOTE=JacobMann;3071124]Appreciate it. Here a few extra miscellaneous Scandallo tips from the forum that I can confirm, for the sake of more completeness.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JacobMann;3071030]Sao Paulo Day 1.[/QUOTE]São Paulo Day 2.
(Heading over to Rio shortly so go to the Rio de Janeiro thread to see my post (s) there.).
Took the daytime easy on the women and instead did sightseeing, green space Park, tried some new cuisines, rode around in the metro which was impressive.
———.
Around 11:30 PM we head over to Gauguin Club, which has been dubbed Scandallo lite.
Probably it's a reasonable tag, but it doesn't do justice to just how huge Scandallo is. This club is a decent size, it's cozy while still feeling spacious. I like the layout a lot. It's just a single large main area and a combined upstairs and there is a stage upfront for live music, and I really like that they mix in strip shows occasionally. Scandallo is "too classy" for that apparently. It's a great change in pace from the very lavish feel of Scandallo while still being quality.
Their cover is 350 w 200 consumable or 500 all consumable. I recommend the 500 brl unless you have really budgeted to not spend that much on food and drink. Their takeout fee for the girls is 500 I believe and the rooms are 250 brl. The good girls can be had easily for 800-1000 range and read my day 1 post for more details on negotiating up front.
There are not nearly as many people here as Scandallo, maybe because it's Friday, but still a decent selection of women and several real baddies honestly. I understand how some posters get bored of this place but for most of us who just visit occasionally, it doesn't matter. And we found that there is always new talent coming through. Just maybe not every day. My impression of this club is they really prioritize blondes and lighter or caramel skin, although it could just have been how it was that evening.
Instead of a card, they use a wristband for your consumable, but otherwise same system of paying for everything at the end.
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Myself and my wingman got seated by a real attentive English speaking waiter in a prime spot near the stage. I wave over this fit indigenous looking caramel skin with long brown hair. And confirmed, her features are Native American, not African descent. Awesome. My wingman is approached by this fit, short petite but stacked brunette and this shorter skinny blonde who could pass for Paris Hilton's younger sister. We are all chilling and order champagne bottle and some food to get poppin. The Native American chick says she has to use the bathroom and she will be back. I say fine. We never see her again in the club or anywhere ever again. Bizarre! Never had that happen before. A little bummed because she was hot but she was also a little off and I suppose these kinds of things maybe are a saving grace. Let's see what happens next. I'm not in a rush and am happy to keep the seat next to me empty as a soak in the atmosphere before closing in on another woman.
Atmosphere is just fun. The waiter gave one our champagne glasses to the woman on stage singing with the band (attractive herself) and we toast from a distance. It's all rather fun and a good change of pace from the heavy bustle of Scandallo. After the band finishes up they have some cabaret burlesque single performer stripteases (all the way to nude). I love it. You don't get that at Scandallo.
My wingman is about to take these two upstairs, he is really intent on threesomes this trip haha. So start perusing and don't really see anything I am just itching to take up. Several nice ones for sure, but after a double nut yesterday, I am more cool and patient. The waiter comes over and asks if I'm looking for anything in Particular. I tip him 50 brl, perhaps a bit excessive but he has been a good spirit and really taking care of us the whole night. I tell him, for a change, young as you have, and preferably blonde. He says let me look and starts walking around. After a minute or two he come back over. I see him bringing over a really young looking blonde anime looking chick, not asian features, but just with the hairstyle and light skin. I find out she is 18 and a half and just recently been doing this. Holy hell, And she speaks English, double holy hell. She is a smart brainy kind of nerdy girl. Turns out she has been rotating in and out of Scandallo too and this happens to be her first night here in Gauguin. She says she is heavily favored by Asian dudes. Go figure. We chat some more for fun, I offer and settle on 1500 (more on this later, but not sure why I went high like this breaking my own rules).
When we go upstairs to the room reception area, I pay 250 for the room and then when we go to process the charge for the girl it turns out its 15% extra for card. This is some BS so I say that super high but ok, calculate the amount. The receptionist shows me 1800 on the card reader. Now I'm double pissed because this is double BS. 15% on top of 1500 is definitely not 1800 and this all doesn't feel right, so I say to them ok you know what, keep the 250 brl, I'm going back downstairs. The teen anime blonde starts looking distressed seeing her potential windfall evaporating. She says wait, let's do 1000. I say ok fine. So by some luck we are back down to the max number that you should even be paying at this place. I don't blame my girl because she told them 1500 as we agreed, it's the receptionist's fault. So I pay the 1150 including the 15% fee and off we go.
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Encounter-.
We shower together and it's a little bit above average length shower because I can tell she really is new to this and is rather nervous still. But at some point it's time to get to business. I change things up and take it rather slow, asking her what kinds of things she likes. She doesn't say anything physical but instead says, more romantic. Well ok I can work with that. I start kissing her slowly and the methodically work deeper and deeper. I can tell she likes it as she finally starts to relax and enjoy herself. I move over her face and start going lower. Her body is not shapely or anything like a typical model. It's more of the girl next door type. Pretty small boobs, but perky. I take my time with them. Now she is getting more warmed up. I don't always do this, just occasionally, but I decide to go down on her DATY. I really want to taste it. And wow it did not disappoint. I work some mouth and tongue magic delicately on her parts and I can tell from her moans and facial expressions that his is genuinely a pretty new experience for her. Neat! I work in finger, and she like it. I work in a second finger and she doesn't like it and grimaces a bit so I go back to one. Wow is she tight! She loves the dual single finger and mouth and has little mini contractions. Delicious. Anyways we then go for my turn. And. She reaches for the condom! Here we go again. I said it's ok don't worry but she says well that's what the other girls taught her. So anyways, despite my earlier rules I stated in Day 1 about cbs vs bobby in Brazil and to never do it in the club without escalating to management, I break that rule here because it's really a young inexperienced one. That and the combination that I'm pretty drunk off champagne means I have a hard time getting it up and the whole thing kind of basically fell apart from there because she felt bad like "I can tell you aren't thrilled. " Anyways I manage to get a few thrusts in but I don't come. She hasn't earned it. I find out from her that the Asian dudes she's been fucking in her little time doing this so far, tell her she isn't toned and just do mechanical thrusting and finish. So it's clear she doesn't really know how to please a man yet. She'll get there if she wants to survive in these clubs. Anyways I had promised her that I'd get her some food after since she's starving and has some exam tomorrow (even though it's Saturday tomorrow, well today at this point as it's late like 2-3 AM.) While she's eating in the main area I go talk to this other girl who is caramel and cute and real bubbly, I snag her number for maybe some tomorrow shenanigans. My wingman also snags a number of another girl. He leaves a bit early before me. Anyways before I say goodbye to young blonde as well I offer her to come over for 2 K brl tomorrow night to stay over. I knew she would be exhausted from no sleep by that point and To my surprise she says, "I would need more that for a night". Ouch, well I use that as a good note to pay my consumables at the front desk and get out of there.
But in summary, I searched out a novel experience and definitely got it, though not the most fun overall for the upstairs part, I enjoyed the club environment a lot. I would overall recommend Gauguin club, lots of experienced talent in there. And some inexperienced too LOL. Keep your eyes and ears open.
Stay tuned for day 3.
[QUOTE=JacobMann;3071742]So Paulo Day 2. Around 11:30 PM we head over to Gauguin Club, which has been dubbed Scandallo lite. In summary, I searched out a novel experience and definitely got it, though not the most fun overall for the upstairs part, I enjoyed the club environment a lot. I would overall recommend Gauguin club, lots of experienced talent in there. And some inexperienced too LOL. Keep your eyes and ears open. Stay tuned for day 3.[/QUOTE]Nice report with plenty of details, but man please don't start paying these Gaugin tutes Scandallo prices (and accepting covered blowjobs)! "Scandallo Lite" refers not only to the facilities, but to the cost to fuck the talent there too! You do stuff like that, and then the next thing you know the girls form a "syndicate" and try to pull that shit with every foreigner that sets foot in the place. They already keep asking for R1,500 at Scandallo, and I think that's too high (should be R1,200 max there IMHO). Let's not do stuff to raise the price ceiling at Gaugin also. I'll be forced to do like Tochka and wait until 2 am to 3 am in order to get my sleepy ass laid at a good price LOL!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3071750]Nice report with plenty of details, but man please don't start paying these Gaugin tutes Scandallo prices (and accepting covered blowjobs)! "Scandallo Lite" refers not only to the facilities, but to the cost to fuck the talent there too! You do stuff like that, and then the next thing you know the girls form a "syndicate" and try to pull that shit with every foreigner that sets foot in the place. They already keep asking for R1,500 at Scandallo, and I think that's too high (should be R1,200 max there IMHO). Let's not do stuff to raise the price ceiling at Gaugin also. I'll be forced to do like Tochka and wait until 2 am to 3 am in order to get my sleepy ass laid at a good price LOL![/QUOTE]KKK, Cane, you nailed it. Its " Lite" on the wallet too! A year from now I will be reminiscing about the good old days of Gauguin pricing for skinny blonde, branca garotas under 1000 brl. ! You ain't wrong sometimes you got to let the clock hit 2:00 AM, let the premium prices deflate, and strike when there is flash discount.
Sleep is for Rio beach trips , so party hearty all night to enjoy SP nightlife , when you're in SP!
I love the 0500 am morning air and early dawn light when I am sleepy eyed, half drunk stumbling out the doors of the hotel in Casarso. I can confirm Casarao security guys do bedchecks of every room when closing. they roust awake sleepy ass, naked garotas and drunk dudes, that are exhausted & snoring away in bed. Kkk.
JacobMann Solid report, man. Glad you enjoyed the Gauguin. It definitely has a affordable pricing 500 to 1000 brl for garotas that worked in Scandallo dayshift, and those cabaret / strip shows are a fun change of pace. Plus classic Rock from the local bands.
While I never tell bros what to pay, having a range is good market info. Agree with Cane on pricing. Right now its a 500 to 1000 brl range in Gauguin. Good on you for walking back downstairs when the 2nd floor receptionist pull that "maths is magic"bullshit on your credit card (she does that shit all the tine figuring dudes are too drunk to notice) I keep a weary eye on her calculations. I keep all credit card receipts from Gauguin & Casarao plus all screenshots when paying Garotas using infinity pay or mercado libre pay.
In conversations with cute young garotas I anchor them and negotiations on Casarao pricing range.
Her turning down are 2000 brl for an overnight because she "needs more than that" islikely fueled by tales of Scandallo pricing from other garotas. You gave her a reality check by walking away.
That disappearing act by the indigenous girl is a classic boate club mystery sometimes, sonetimes means her regular client just walked through the door and she clocked out with him.
unfortunately have done the same disappearing act with garotas , during a conversation with an interesting exotic garota, I promised an immediately return , then >Boom< ran into my lustful favorite hottie, off we went and never to return. Next day the pissed off garota sends a DM or wassap message. With flames emoji and ready to block my ass. ..
sure sweetie go ahead & block the source of this month rent. Kkkk.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3071841]That disappearing act by the indigenous girl is a classic boate club mystery sometimes, sonetimes means her regular client just walked through the door and she clocked out with him.
unfortunately have done the same disappearing act with garotas , during a conversation with an interesting exotic garota, I promised an immediately return , then >Boom< ran into my lustful favorite hottie, off we went and never to return. Next day the pissed off garota sends a DM or wassap message. With flames emoji and ready to block my ass.[/QUOTE]That's all fair in this game. Girls know their regular clients will provide a steady income stream. Many of us "tourists" are at somewhat of a disadvantage.
As far as us guys pulling a disappearing act, that's up to each of us to read the situation. I generally can tell if there is a rapport so I rarely get wandering eyes. While this is mostly a transactional business, rapport is important. But yeah, sometimes the connection is not strong and I'm looking around the room.
I'm guessing if you texted the pissed off garota to come over she would be there in an hour. And she would fuck you like crazy.
[QUOTE=JacobMann;3071742]Sao Paulo Day 2.[/QUOTE]São Paulo Day 3 -.
See the Rio reports upcoming in Rio thread, boy do I have some good ones.
Before getting into it, I will address the comments. I appreciate the comments guys.
- I never endorsed and did not end up overpaying in any situation. Obviously some novel situations arose for me and I handled them according to my best judgement. You also have to consider that I am very rarely here, so if I was more regularly probably I would make some slight adjustments but overall it was all good.
- Obviously with the CBJ thing, same deal, I made a call based on all the situation. I don't think you will have issues with CBJ. Brazilian locals, who are overwhelmingly the customers at these places, wouldn't tolerate it, and honestly it's my fault for not being explicit downstairs about the expectations for that. I was more focused on the novelty of the 18 year old than going through any explicit details in advance in this particular instance. Again, exception not the rule. I overwhelmingly get CBJ by default.
Anyways, let's keep going with the story—.
Pretty late night so the day was pretty abbreviated. Last day in SP (Saturday) , Rio tomorrow.
The girl's number I got afterwards at the very end, I realized she wasn't as attractive. She really wanted to come over but I politely declined. With what I had set up in Rio, I wasn't keen to nut today unless there was something really exciting.
Never heard from teen blonde again and I didn't text her either. After the "2 k is not enough remark" I forgot about her.
Night rolls along and I'm not going to stay up late tonight so trying to decide what to do. My wingman is going to call over the girl from Gaugin whose number he got at night. I remember her looking pretty good but she was pretty dressed down in the late night at Gaugin. Later the next day I would see some IG photos of her (her working ig not personal) and DAMN was she fire. Black hair, light skin and just stacked without looking fake at all. Some of the best boob job ever. I was joking, we need to figure out who her doctor was because damn. And perfect bbl to boot. Wingman definitely beat me in this instance. She quoted 2500 for the night apparently and I don't know why he still is asking for the price instead of opening with an offer. Anyways they settle on 2000 for a couple of hours of outcall at his place.
I decide to see Casarao since I have never been and It's the last of the major one's we discuss here that I haven't seen. Reach around 11:30.
60 BRL entry fee LOL. Lot of dudes there. Various Asians and locals who looked like they would never pay the cover for other places.
Mostly unattractive women although there are a few bangers. Heavy makeup all around though.
I just drank a couple Heinekens as my night was planned to be short. I got approached by a couple women one after another. They were friendly, but not that attractive. And then I talked to one who was more attractive but realized as I was talking to her how much I was not into her big lips from injections.
I felt stupid for not realizing that there was a downstairs, basement like area which was popping. I thought it was the female bathroom. I don't know how it was so packed down there with guys and girls and it took me so long to realize. Is there a separate entrance? Anyways there were definitely some attractive women down there but not many. Almost all were taken but not all. I approached one who seemed pretty hot and had arrived recently and was busy chatting up other girls. She seemed taken aback that I was talking to her like why are you disturbing my chat session with these other girls. I decided eh, let me just keep it moving. This place is too cramped, loud, and obnoxious for me. Maybe 5-10 years ago, but I am in my 30's now. Ratio was pretty bad, but of course most of these guys in here are not taking women anywhere. I don't bother with phone numbers either as I am leaving town.
I wrap things up and go home to get sleep for my flight. Apparently the 60 brl included some consumable so that was all I paid plus Ubers. Pretty cheap night.
This part of town is very different from the other parts I had seen so far of Sao Paulo. Lots of young night life, more working class type place. Definitely keep your guard up a little extra in this part of town.
But I would still recommend Casarao. It's a better budget deal for drinks and stuff, and for someone newer to the hobby, is a good place to get their feet wet and for veterans a good place to keep an eye out for the occasional banger. Most women here are unattractive though, which is different from the other places I mentioned.
Head over to the Rio thread for the dope things that happened there for me.
Seconded.
But, a good place to meet other mongers IFF the entrada applies towards dinner?
[QUOTE=Tribute15;3071686] Still way too much.[/QUOTE]
Breaking sex addiction.
Addiction is addiction.
Burroughs, naked lunch writes.
I have seen the exact manner in which the junk virus operates through fifteen years of addiction. The pyramid of junk, one level eating the level below (it is no accident that junk higher-ups are always fat and the addict in the street is always thin) right up to the top or tops since there are many junk pyramids feeding on peoples of the world and all built on basic principles of monopoly:
1 Never give anything for nothing.
2 Never give more than you have to give (always catch the buyer hungry and always make him wait).
3 Always take everything back if you possibly can.
Ergo,
Brazil withdrawal syndrome is a real thing.
If the addict needs a fix of barra Hyatt grand and the concubine, he must first find a supply where he is, and put it into the budget where he is.
The addict comes back to Brazil, and sees scandallo as the height of mongering, but really, writing gp-guia dot net reviews for the discount to 250 ish is the apex predator profile at miruna, av miruna 644 in moema.
[QUOTE=Tribute15;3071688]Scandallo rates are becoming crazy and unreasonable. My last visit there I got a sweet heart for 800 reals. All natural. No painted face with make, soft bubble and very fun lively. I had seen some pretty things, but the rates were crazy and I wasn't buying. I was about leaving when I went round the club one more time and saw her at the bar in the open area. I looked at her from far and didn't see much, then turned around and about leaving when she grabbed my hand.
Turned around and saw she was very pretty close up and natural. She asked for a 1200 and I said 800 r. She came down to 1000 r and I still stood at 800 r. She agreed and we left. One of my best sessions in Scandallo. At exit my bill was close too 2000 r. Still way too much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3071973]sees scandallo as the height of mongering, but really, writing gp-guia dot net reviews for the discount to 250 ish is the apex predator profile at miruna[/QUOTE]Nothing against Miruna whatsoever (though at the clinca level I'd prefer Yankin) but its a quick and generally unceremonious fuck, not comparable in any way to the Scandallo experience. It's the place I go because I don't feel like jerking off and its too early for a club.
Scandallo girls are just much bigger on the IOP that is so often cited here as what draws so many of us to Brazil. I got invited by a Scandallo girl to watch Brazil vs Haiti game with her cousins, and then a different one invited me to Brazil vs Scotland with her friends. Did they both do it to try and keep me on the hook for future business? I'm sure they did, but its still a drastically deeper level of intimacy and it makes the sex 10 x better.
Similar things still happen albeit a little less frequently with Bomboa and Casarao girls, and maybe Gauguin too though I can't say from experience yet. However I don't get that with the Clinica girls at all. Maybe that is just me and my experience, but I've done a decent bit of research so I stand by it.
Seattle Turismo, trusted place for currency exchange in SP is closed. Went there on Monday, the entrance was shut. According to Google Maps it should be open.
Further search showed that they shut down because of high rent. Found a new place, Getmoney at Patio Paulista, their rate was 5. 12 (midmarket 5. 19), R$ 10,000 limit per day.
I hit Casaro on Saturday night. Around midnight it was pretty light but it picked up later as the night went on.
Finding the younger 19 to 21-year-old garotas from the interior was harder than I expected, but eventually I found three cute newbies from Minas Gerais (Uberlndia, of course), Paran, Mato Grosso do Sul, and Gois. They were all doing Casaro for the first time, and for some it was their first time in So Paulo.
They all had dreams of making the big leaguesScandallo, Gauguin, Connectionthe places where the bigger money is. The funny thing is they probably wouldn't make the A-team there, at least not yet. They still had that natural, girl-next-door look with no obvious cosmetic work. Those clubs are shark-infested waters, shark tank at Guaguin is a good reminder the competition for clients is fierce for wide-eyed country girls. KKK. While casarao offers a bigger client demograohic pool.
A few of them mentioned the motel near the Barra Funda / Jabaquara bus terminals where a lot of the new arrivals split rooms together. My drunk ass forgot to save the name in Google Maps.
My first session was with a cute 19-year-old morena. She opened at 600 brl I countered with 400 brl for an hour and told her that's pretty standard for a first-time interior garota who doesn't speak English yet. KKK. She came back with 500 brl wanting to split the difference.
I told her I'the do 500 brl only if I could pay by credit card. Otherwise, cash was are 400 brl. No PIX.
She immediately started trying to set up Mercado Libre Pay on her shitty phone, but the internet connection inside Casaro was painfully slow. The whole process moved like molasses. I ended up using the Wi-Fi from the hotel next door while she was still trying to get everything working. she made newbie mistakes all around because she did not know to have shit preloaded with different payment options. Or have that phone a friend option ready to go..
most garotas use Call a friend to use her maquina or infintie payment on the phone. She hadn't made friends with anyone who already had a card machine or iphone payment setup, and it was obvious she was still figuring out how the shit system a Casaro works.
Nope I bypass the crappy small rooms wait to get the nicer rooms, room 2 or the room 1-8 with stripper pole. I have not seen a big difference in the bigger rooms. Unless doing threesome.
That newbie garota learning curve only lasts a few days before the veterans show them the ropes, and they join the 600 brl union so there's a short window where they're still fresh off the bus, excited, and trying to figure everything out. with dreams of counting big money instead of counting the lunch
money they just earned.. She was a tigress in bed with that fresh off the bus, doe eyed beautiful green eyes morena. Looking up with a mouth full of sloppy BJ, and swallow is picture perfect.
The funniest part? An hour after we finished, she followed me on Instagram and sent me a DM asking if I wanted to book another session with her and a friend for four hands discount... tempting.. kkk she is learning quick.. btw moah spa has a duplo four hands special for 350 brl.. one hour..two garotas .. 350 brl .. they aint lookers tho you get what ya getZz
back to casarao that newbie cutie garota will do the mental test next week if not sooner..
her ass is going to be sitting on some dudes lap (mine) on the long mirrored sofa
she will gaze up & down the line of garotas sitting in the lap of clients and
mentally ask..
am i older than her or younger.. as she reaches the end of the line and
realizes she is one of the younger beauties in Casarao .. >boom< she will double her price to 1000 brl and stick to it ..
I will be in Sao Paulo for the first time next month. Based on what I've read on the forum, Casarao sounds like the spot I will be visiting the most frequently. And of course, I'll go to Scandallo too, but more than twice would be outside of budget. Clinicas are not a high priority for me.
With that in mind, what is the area closest to Casarao that you recommend staying at? Any issues with just staying in the same area as Casarao itself? I have a strong preference for Airbnb.
The closest area that I could find frequently recommended was Pinheiros.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3072760]I will be in Sao Paulo for the first time next month. Based on what I've read on the forum, Casarao sounds like the spot I will be visiting the most frequently. And of course, I'll go to Scandallo too, but more than twice would be outside of budget. Clinicas are not a high priority for me.
With that in mind, what is the area closest to Casarao that you recommend staying at? Any issues with just staying in the same area as Casarao itself? I have a strong preference for Airbnb.
The closest area that I could find frequently recommended was Pinheiros.[/QUOTE]Hey Chance, you sound like your pattern is going to be near identical to mine, so I'd recommend right near the Oscar Freire metro.
You do NOT want to stay too close to Casarao. Unless you're literally next door there is no 100% safe walking distance at 1-4 am, and getting an Uber to take you 1 km could be a tricky.
Its also not a great area during the day, though not unsafe.
Oscar Freire area gives you a cheap 10 minute ride to Casarao, 15-20 minutes to Gauguin, 15 to Bomboa, and 25-30 to Scandallo. Its also just a very solid area for food, has safe ATMs, and safe to walk around. The only downside is distance from the better clinicas, so I'd think you'd find it to be a good fit. I'm loving my AirBNB here.
Hello everyone and thank you for providing prieless up-to-date information in this Scandallo-, oh I am sorry, Sao Paulo- thread!
I would contribute something, but my last visit to SP was 4,5 years ago, during Omicron panic if you remember. It was Christmas and SP was dead. All I can say. Be&be HOTEL São Paulo Luz. Centro is garota friendly. But surrounding are awful, you have to step over the half-dead hobo junkie to enter the Bradesco branch or ATM, I am not kidding.
Moema Prime offered garotas among whom were short-haired brunette with heavenly body (Russian pornostar Natalya Andreeva-Nemchinova style) and big-Brazilian-bunda twin sister of actress Emily Browning. Wil for sure repeat later this month.
I have pretty much all necessary information for my trip (thanks again for this topic and all contributors). The only thing that is confusing me is that they ask for your ID in Scandallo. No boate in Rio do this, not Centaurus, not Montecarlo, Casablanca etc.
My question is. Do they accept my ID on phone screen? I have my passport photoshopped exactly for this occasions, LOL. Or I need to show some plastic?
Do Casarao ask for ID as well? If yes, do they accept passport on phone screen?
Only 2 days in SP. Can be more, but I frankly do not know what to do during the day. Biggest city in South America, 20+ millions of people and nothing to do exept mongering. I searched Tripadviser, travelblogs, TOP-X things to do in SP on Google. So far I have a park with capybara and some rooftop bars, maybe Beco de Batman and that's all.
What do you do, fellow mongers, during the day, if you stay for weeks in SP?
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3072909]Hello everyone and thank you for providing prieless up-to-date information in this Scandallo-, oh I am sorry, Sao Paulo- thread!
I would contribute something, but my last visit to SP was 4,5 years ago, during Omicron panic if you remember. It was Christmas and SP was dead. All I can say. Be&be HOTEL So Paulo Luz. Centro is garota friendly. But surrounding are awful, you have to step over the half-dead hobo junkie to enter the Bradesco branch or ATM, I am not kidding.
Moema Prime offered garotas among whom were short-haired brunette with heavenly body (Russian pornostar Natalya Andreeva-Nemchinova style) and big-Brazilian-bunda twin sister of actress Emily Browning. Wil for sure repeat later this month.
I have pretty much all necessary information for my trip (thanks again for this topic and all contributors). The only thing that is confusing me is that they ask for your ID in Scandallo. No boate in Rio do this, not Centaurus, not Montecarlo, Casablanca etc.
My question is. Do they accept my ID on phone screen? I have my passport photoshopped exactly for this occasions, LOL. Or I need to show some plastic?
Do Casarao ask for ID as well? If yes, do they accept passport on phone screen?
Only 2 days in SP. Can be more, but I frankly do not know what to do during the day. Biggest city in South America, 20+ millions of people and nothing to do exept mongering. I searched Tripadviser, travelblogs, TOP-X things to do in SP on Google. So far I have a park with capybara and some rooftop bars, maybe Beco de Batman and that's all.
What do you do, fellow mongers, during the day, if you stay for weeks in SP?[/QUOTE]I stayed in SP for only a few days and it's not a big tourism city but I did take a morning to go to Beco do Batman which was pretty cool. SP's big art museum on Paulista Ave also has free admission on Tuesdays so I combined a visit there with a short metro ride to Beco do Batman but you have to register for your free ticket online in advance. I also went to their big mercado market in Centro to try one of the big mortadella sandwiches and also visited the Japanese district of Liberdace for some Japanese cuisine. That's really about it for tourism that I took in. If I return to SP, I'm not sure if I would visit these places again so the downtown in between mongering sessions might be pretty dead.
Dear bored during the day.
During the day you can do more sessions thanks to numerous clinicas in the moema area. Abbobora recommended. Or call favorite garota of your choice home for some afternoon delight.
Correction this is the Scandallo thread. Scandallo has put Sao Paulo on the map.
If more sex doesn't keep you occupied during the day, try these alternatives. Do MASP stroll Paulista Ave, stroll upscale shopping at Jardins, stroll Oscar Freire Street, Buy Brazilian perfume, stroll the historic center of SP big gothic cathedral de se. Climb up Farol Santander it has some good interactive exhibits. Climb up Terraco italia for the views (don't forget the bar on the top level above the restaurant floor) stroll liberdade. Japanese museum Japanese coy fish pond markets great ramen at New mimatsu. Eat the best Pizza of South America (yes the whole continent) at Leggera Pizzeria. Eat jota burger. Try coffee at Cafe Cultura on Ave Paulista. Dress up and go for a drink at Seen on Tivoli hotel. Dress up and go for revolving Italian restaurant. Lassu. Go to the gym. Go for a run at ibirapuera parq there is a free museum as well. Eat some arancini at Hotel Unique Skye rooftop bar.
I have never done beco de Batman.
Yours truly,
Spent weeks in SP but was never bored during the day.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3072909]Hello everyone and thank you for providing prieless up-to-date information in this Scandallo-, oh I am sorry, Sao Paulo- thread!
Only 2 days in SP. Can be more, but I frankly do not know what to do during the day. Biggest city in South America, 20+ millions of people and nothing to do exept mongering. I searched Tripadviser, travelblogs, TOP-X things to do in SP on Google. So far I have a park with capybara and some rooftop bars, maybe Beco de Batman and that's all.
What do you do, fellow mongers, during the day, if you stay for weeks in SP?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3072982]Dear bored during the day.
During the day you can do more sessions thanks to numerous clinicas in the moema area. Abbobora recommended. Or call favorite garota of your choice home for some afternoon delight.
Correction this is the Scandallo thread. Scandallo has put Sao Paulo on the map.
If more sex doesn't keep you occupied during the day, try these alternatives. Do MASP stroll Paulista Ave, stroll upscale shopping at Jardins, stroll Oscar Freire Street, Buy Brazilian perfume, stroll the historic center of SP big gothic cathedral de se. Climb up Farol Santander it has some good interactive exhibits. Climb up Terraco italia for the views (don't forget the bar on the top level above the restaurant floor) stroll liberdade. Japanese museum Japanese coy fish pond markets great ramen at New mimatsu. Eat the best Pizza of South America (yes the whole continent) at Leggera Pizzeria. Eat jota burger. Try coffee at Cafe Cultura on Ave Paulista. Dress up and go for a drink at Seen on Tivoli hotel. Dress up and go for revolving Italian restaurant. Lassu. Go to the gym. Go for a run at ibirapuera parq there is a free museum as well. Eat some arancini at Hotel Unique Skye rooftop bar..[/QUOTE]Excellent suggestions by everyone.
Sao Paulo is not boring during the day. There's just not a lot of great sites to visit.
It's like New York City minus world class museums and a body of water.
As you have noted, most visitors tend to anchor their days around meals which can be incredible in SP.
Not to get into another Rio versus Sao Paulo debate, but Rio is a world class tourist city.
However, Rio over the years has lost its Brazilian mongering edge to Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3072909]Hello everyone and thank you..
My question is. Do they accept my ID on phone screen? I have my passport photoshopped exactly for this occasions, LOL. Or I need to show some plastic?
Do Casarao ask for ID as well? If yes, do they accept passport on phone screen?
Only 2 days in SP. Can be more, but I frankly do not know what to do during the day. Biggest city in South America, 20+ millions of people and nothing to do exept mongering. I searched Tripadviser, travelblogs, TOP-X things to do in SP on Google. So far I have a park with capybara and some rooftop bars, maybe Beco de Batman and that's all.
What do you do, fellow mongers, during the day, if you stay for weeks in SP?[/QUOTE]10 Things to Do in Sao Paulo. Don't Do Them Alone.
First Search Instagram for "10 things to do in Sao Paulo. " There are literally hundreds of local folks, European & American dudes dedicated to sharing their top 10 or 20 cool daytime experiences around the city.
I have done indoor rock climbing in Moema, roller skating (disco oldies / flash back but goodies in the afternoons) , Go-Kart racing, Gun Shooting Clubs, seen amazing light shows in churches, drone shows in the park, Bowling , MASP, Candlelight tribute rock concerts to Mettalica, Nirvana, Creed, sang karaoke at afternoon bars in Liberdade, drinks & pickup at Banana Cafe, daytime trip to the beach (about 1 hour 15 minutes each way), ate or tried ti eat GIANT burgers, SuperHero resturant, daytime Moema Clincas walking tour of 10 to 15 clinicas. the cool underground jazz clubs (speak easy) or hit up several Festa Junina festivals that seem to be every fuvking where, wore a red checkered shirt and did some square dancing of course. Hee haw why'all kkk. rooftop bars mentioned here. all these spots are findable on instagram & in english
The difference for me wasn't the attractions it was the attractive garota (s) on my arm. I invited to come along. Exploring Sao Paulo with a fun, attractive garota made the daytime stuff way more enjoyable than doing it solo. It completely changed how I experienced the city the first time.
Truth be told, about half the time we never even made it out of bed to do the tourist stuff, and I was perfectly fine with that. We did a luxury daytime spa for two, in Pinheiros where the good looking masseuse. Err I mean she was a "Massage Therapist" serviced us both and joined in the fun for threesome action. Kkk.
One of my more memorable experiences, Getting a quiet, secret sexy massage & BJ in a room above a church during services. We had a hard time keeping shit quiet and had wicked fun.
So Paulo can be a fun city when you have an adventurous uninhibited garota. To join in daytime activities. .
And if you need help finding an available garota. this is your starter kit: Visit nearly any of your favorite moema clincas, session with your Garota of Choice (GoC) & make arrangements for the same day or next day. Your garota would rather accompany you during day tour & sex in the city tour rsther than doing another boring presentation lineup every ten minutes.
Scandallo, Casarao, Gaugin and a few other spots are not picky about your ID. I printed a color copy of passport, or used my thai drivers license, showed passport on phone works fine, cafe foto takes your finger print, at scandallo or Gauguin they deal with foriegners every night. Its no big deal to use whatever you are comfortsble with showing. Casarso is a little different because they check for daring young dudes bar hopping in Rua Augusta trying to sneak in the club at night. the bouncer check id first before letting you in.. ar the other spots the cashier is just looking for a name and number to put into the computer to give u a card or wristband , i hate wearing wristbands cause the waiter gotta read my wrists when it deeply nuzzling & masaging young loira brancas perky natural breasts.
I often tell the cashier at Scandallo & Gauguin "Scandallo lite" to put in my name as Tochka in the computer system, so the waiters & staff know me as that name . After all this is Scandallo and "Scandallo lite" forum so you could literally spend all afternoon from 2pm -6pm banging the day shift at Scandallo .. instead of being bored daytime..kkk
As someone who spends weeks here, I second what Tochka said. I often find a girl to go to restaurants, the park, etc with which works out great. In general though I just use it as time to take care of myself. Make sure I get in a good workout, read more, and enjoy a walkable city that I couldn't when I'm back home. Plus I can head over to a clinica for a cheap mid afternoon fuck, which does keep me a bit more focused if I'm going out that night. In my case I still do some work as I travel, so I have no trouble filling the day.
For your ID, I typically use my US drivers license, never my passport. If I cared enough about privacy I'm sure I could use an older expired license at most places, though I haven't tried it. You can probably get away with a picture at most places, but I'm not sure about all.
A day in SP.
7 pm I get dressed and go to a nice dinner restaurant like pizzeria or Italian fine dining lassu.
9 PM Scandallo. Followed by scandallo which gets pumping at 9 pm with live music where I buy drinks and interview few garotas do 1 room and finish up by 1:30.
2 AM Casarao. Head to casarao and fuck 3-4 more girls, between interviews and walking to smart hotel that usually takes till 7 am by when girls are in street clothes and casarao shutter is closed.
7:30 AM Home. Head home get my 8 hrs sleep.
3:30 PM Wake up withdraw cash before Bradesco bank closes at 4 pm. Order supplies via rappi and have some morning coffee at 5 pm to fully wake up, go to gym or get some of your 10 K daily steps and bam it's time for a new Boate choose from gauguin or scandallo repeat followed by casarao.
Last day is afternoon delight at abbobora before redeye flight to the land of the free.
When do you get the time during the day? You're doing it all wrong.
Eat, sleep, rave repeat.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3072982]Dear bored during the day.
During the day you can do more sessions thanks to numerous clinicas in the moema area. Abbobora recommended. Or call favorite garota of your choice home for some afternoon delight.
Correction this is the Scandallo thread. Scandallo has put Sao Paulo on the map.
If more sex doesn't keep you occupied during the day, try these alternatives. Do MASP stroll Paulista Ave, stroll upscale shopping at Jardins, stroll Oscar Freire Street, Buy Brazilian perfume, stroll the historic center of SP big gothic cathedral de se.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3072875]Hey Chance, you sound like your pattern is going to be near identical to mine, so I'd recommend right near the Oscar Freire metro.
You do NOT want to stay too close to Casarao. Unless you're literally next door there is no 100% safe walking distance at 1-4 am, and getting an Uber to take you 1 km could be a tricky.
Its also not a great area during the day, though not unsafe.
Oscar Freire area gives you a cheap 10 minute ride to Casarao, 15-20 minutes to Gauguin, 15 to Bomboa, and 25-30 to Scandallo. Its also just a very solid area for food, has safe ATMs, and safe to walk around. The only downside is distance from the better clinicas, so I'd think you'd find it to be a good fit. I'm loving my AirBNB here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I'm glad you specifically mentioned that the Consolacao area is not walkable at night. I think gameplan will be to do 30 min session at Casarao, and then if there's chemistry, ask for longer date another day.
The area you recommended has a ton of Airbnb listings, so I think I'll be able to find a girl-friendly one!
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3073023]A day in SP.
7 pm I get dressed and go to a nice dinner restaurant like pizzeria or Italian fine dining lassu.
9 PM Scandallo. Followed by scandallo which gets pumping at 9 pm with live music where I buy drinks and interview few garotas do 1 room and finish up by 1:30.
2 AM Casarao. Head to casarao and fuck 3-4 more girls, between interviews and walking to smart hotel that usually takes till 7 am by when girls are in street clothes and casarao shutter is closed.
7:30 AM Home. Head home get my 8 hrs sleep.
3:30 PM Wake up withdraw cash before Bradesco bank closes at 4 pm. Order supplies via rappi and have some morning coffee at 5 pm to fully wake up, go to gym or get some of your 10 K daily steps and bam it's time for a new Boate choose from gauguin or scandallo repeat followed by casarao.
Last day is afternoon delight at abbobora before redeye flight to the land of the free.
When do you get the time during the day? You're doing it all wrong.
Eat, sleep, rave repeat.[/QUOTE]OKSwimmer is 💯 on point the way me and many others I know play it. There is absolutely ZERO time to do anything during the day because you are usually sleeping or fucking. My schedule is slightly different from his but the idea of eat, rave, fuck, sleep is spot on. I am 100% serious there is little time for anything else. Maybe an hour or two of work or lingerie shopping with your favorite girl.
My schedule goes like this:
10 - wake up from last nights debauchery; hopefully in time for breakfast buffet and debrief w the guys.
13 - date with a regular or a new girl from Meu Patricinio or clinica.
17 - get ready for the night.
19 - hit the club with the crew or have a dinner date.
2 - bounce to another club.
5 - hit the bed.
This can vary by a few hours each way or have a bigger block of daytime if I have a girl staying w me for a few days. And every few days I might skip the afternoon fucking for a much needed nap. But on balance it's like this. Rinse and repeat. No time for anything else.
Yeah that summarizes my 10 day 18 girl romp!
Going to post in three parts. Stay tuned.
This is part one of the three part series. I normally break up my trips in three parts. 1 girl buffet. 2 girlfriend time 3 girl buffet again. So I broke up my reports that way also.
We start with a direct flight to SP which I do love because it leaves in the morning and arrives around 9 PM -- giving you an extra club night rather than kicking around in the AM waiting for checkin time. My only error though was flying on a Sunday which means the only club option was Casarao. Now to be clear, Casarao is much upgraded in facilities and girls, but the scamminess is perhaps worse than ever, as we will see.
I bop to Casarao about 11 PM, where I am meeting up with fellow board member S. I haven't met him before but we've chatted a good bit and he seems a great guy (he is! As I say, the club is quite nice now and its pretty vibey downstairs -- with the crowd growing by the minute. S and I cruise around and just drink for a while before making a play. He's a wine drinker and of course their selection of a single bottle is somewhat limited. But I introduce him to the drink of Sao Paulo -- the Gin Tropical -- Gin and Red Bull Tropical. Nearly everyone drinks it in the clubs -- especially the girls and I probably had about 30 this past week. Hahaha. S truly enjoys this newly found favorite and has several, as do I.
After some time I pull a duo -- Priscilla and XYZ (forgot!) and it starts out well. Nice girls and we agree to 600 each girl for an hour. I am SUPER clear on this. In the room they want the money up front and I never do this, but they seem so nice I cave (spoiler alert -- never do this! Honestly it wasn't so bad. The sex was pretty darn good. Well orchestrated double BJ, etc. But the scammy part is the alarm goes off at 30 minutes or 40 minutes I can't recall which and they are like "we're done here". Of course I am pissed and say no we aren't -- you agreed a full hour. Honestly I don't recall what happened after that, but I think they won and I just went back for another round. It's a shame when actually good sex is spoiled by scammy behavior.
Well you would think I would learn, but apparently I am untrainable. I find a tiny little hottie named Rafa on the smoking patio and she's pretty drunk. I am thinking perhaps that means a good time. I am again quite clear in text -- 600 for an hour. In the room she's sexy and does a few little mouth bobs on my shaft, but then demands payment up front. Again, like a fucking idiot, I think she's sooooo nice and give it to her.
And with that mind numbingly stupid gesture -- she says OK let's get that condom on! And I am fucking pissed. I say of course no condom for BJ (pretty darn sure I said that in the text) but she's not budging and has the money literally in her hands. I go to take it but she won't give it up and I'm not going to wrestle a 4-11 pixie, so I put my tail between my legs and head out. I could have called management or something, but at this point, I am just pissed and resigned that Casarao is epic for scams. The key however is simply DO NOT PAY AHEAD -- of course I know this and advocate it, but I paid ahead anyhow and paid the price. Damn I give good advice! Later, I learned to take it and it turned the tide.
So after two busted onsite dates at Casarao I was ready to get a goddamn shot off! I found a very pretty black girl with a dynamite smile and banging little body. She agreed to go to my hotel for 1000 R. A bit blurry now but seemed like solid BBBJ and CFS but a by hand finish that late in the game.
The plans for the coming evening were to meet my regular bareback hottie C (a casarao gem from two years ago) for a dinner date so I'the save my bullets. But I woke up horny and wanted to crank one out. I'm not generally a clinicas man but asked the team for recommendations and one said Maria Clara at Prime, so off I go.
Wow what a great call! That girl is a sexual whirlwind. Kisses like a tigress, top notch BBBJ, and shockingly good CFS. She even had four different positions for RCG! But here's the most amazing part and surely why some guys like clinicas after a CIM with no upcharge my final bill was 370 R. Yep. $75 USD for mind blowing sex and CIM. WTF?
That night I had dinner at Seen with C as planned. Because I was staying at the Tivoli where Seen is housed I could get reservations for 7:30. They don't take reservations for non guests. C showed up pretty close to on time, which is a unique trait amongst brasileiras, and looked smokin.
Because we are staying there it was cool to just bop down two floors to the room and get at it. C is another one of these pixie dynamos, who just can't get enough dick. (I find that the pixies are surprisingly more sexually voracious than "normal" girls for some reason). Aside from being able to get a thigh clamping massive O from DATY, when she is riding cowgirl look out! She had five solid orgasms riding me (yes I counted!) over 20 minutes on top. The first one was a labor of love, riding hard for at least ten minutes. But the other four came in short succession. I finally had to roll her over to mish where I fired a lovely CIP.
Ever the horndog I let see go and head to Scan. I am mostly just lounging and hanging out but eventually take a heavy girl named Miranda (one of the few heavy girls at Scan) because her sales pitch is so good. Basically she sits down and says ""can I kiss you" and proceeds to make out deep and passionately. And she's a great kisser.
Of course her being a bit older and heavier I let her go after a bit. But she comes back later and same thing. And she's a great kisser which often correlates with a great BJ. And sure enough it is great and I blow a load in the onsite room not much later.
Believe it or not we just over 24 hrs in. So buckle up!
But next up is the girl of the trip (H) whom I end up seeing three times. I met her on Meu Patricinio (Brazilian equivalent of Seeking) and she had by far the best text chemistry of any girl on there. Perfect English not using translate, witty, just the whole package. And a cute pixie gym rat to boot!
Oddly we never had the price discussion. I thought about bringing it up several times but got the vibe that money for sex was uncomfortable for her and so I let it slide and played by ear. I am super glad I did because at lunch (which was amazing) she says "you know most of the girls on MP are prostitutes and that's definitely not me" So again I'm wondering where this is going but she is 100% genuine and transparent with me.
Back at the room it is super comfortable. A memorable moment is when we are face to face kissing she tells me I look better than my profile picture. This made my day because my picture is a morph between me and Brad Pitt! Hahaha she coulda left then and I'the be happy. 😂.
But it was ON and it was passionate and sexy. She is just like see that she can truly get off in DATY and rides like a blue ribbon cowgirl. She had multiple Os on top and rode so hard and long she was literally sweating! Actually that was sexy as fuck. Even tho her BBBJ skills were best of the trip, I finished CIP, which I prefer if I can get it.
And here is the amazing part. No $$ exchanged! FREE! I offer to pay for her Uber (over an hour) and she does accept that. But that's it. (I come to find out later that she comes from money and has a successful career on her own.) And, spoiler alert, we meetup two more times, with her ubering an hour each way to meetup and fuck for FREE. We are definitely an item and going to figure out how to keep this going.
Wow at the rate we are going here I'm going to end up writing War and Peace so let me summarize the rest of that week before seeing my true Brazilian GF on Friday.
Mary at Scandallo. Quite tall mixed girl with good English. Sexy, pretty. The whole Scan package. Solid in room.
Rafa at Casarao. Lovely black girl with a dazzling smile. Took her back the hotel. Was so wasted I fell asleep three times during BJ! How fucking embarrassing. But she was great. A real trooper.
Lorena at Scandallo. Wow. This girl was sooo fucking pretty. I mean a 10 face. Kinda came out of nowhere after several hours at Scan. Unfortunately her tits are fake, but a solid experience and that face. OMG. Oh and the funniest thing as she is giving me her Insta, my friend Ts Insta pops up and she says "I know that guy!" It turns out they'the fucked. Met on SPLove. So we laughed about that.
Karina at Scandallo. Karina is such a lovely girl. A regular with my crew, she would just sit and party with us even if she wasn't going to get taken. But the second night I decided to take her. Really great and eager to please.
Juliana at Gauguin (GG) - My friend Marks girl works at GG so he asked me to buy her dinner when I was there (I know her well). So we had a lovely dinner but she is there to work so we parted ways. Later she introduced her friend Juliana. We ended up having an amazing time dancing for hours at GG and then going back to my room and staying through breakfast.
Next up was my GF and for the weekend. When I say my GF I mean she's a lot more than a quickie like most of these girls. We have a super deep connection and she will sleepover for a few days or we will travel together. We've been to Ilha Bela and Barcelona and London. We did 7 days in Europe together and are still together! Clearly a massive violation of the 48-72 HR rule but just shows we have something special. So she's the real deal. And therefore deserves a separate report. So be on the lookout for that.
N left late Sunday night. She was super disappointed to be cut loose, but I needed to get back to the girl buffet. And really I needed some sleep. I crashed for like 10 hours.
Stayed tuned for part 2.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3073152]is simply DO NOT PAY AHEAD[/QUOTE]This was always a rule for me, but Brazil was the one place to break it and 80% or more of the time it works out fine. Usually it's just a newer girl or a girl who has been scammed before who is nervous, not a situation where they're going to take the money and sprint from the room. The main reason I cave occasionally is because if the service does suddenly turn to shit, especially at a place like Casarao the odds are I'm still going to pay her anyway. If she causes a problem with the management or makes the other girls think that I am going to stiff them, it could negatively impact the rest of my trip so I just deal with what amounts to petty theft. I suppose it would help in the few cases where she tries to pull a CBJ, but the BBBJ is the single last question I ask before we get to lets go, so its usually fresh in her mind and the text is sitting on my phone.
For me the real lesson was to stop fucking the girls I find when I'm bored, those girls you run into after the one you really wanted disappears. Anytime I've told myself a half decent looking girl is good enough, she never is.
As I mentioned I do the sandwich where I do the girl buffet and then girlfriend and then the buffet again. The girlfriend part was with N whom I really adore. And if you ever wanted to date a Brazilian party girl icon this is the girl. We had somewhat basic dates on Friday and Sunday, but Saturday was epic. Here's how it went down:
My Brazilian GF (N) and I have our moments and honestly our first night together was just Ok. But last night (Saturday) was literally the best night of my life. That girl is fire! An absolute dick magnet and tornado of sexual energy.
I've been hanging with the crew and various girls last few days and they wanted to go to Scan for a final night. I'the never BROUGHT a girl to Scan but they had, so I thought what the heck. So off to Scan go me and N, not as a working girl but as my date. And what a great idea that was!
The crew was there when we arrived but they were in the restaurant and we got a booth in the main area where they joined us shortly. The crew was made up of three couples besides us, plus two guys going stag. And we had and's gay friend G with us as well. He is such a great guy.
We arrived about 10 I guess and time flew by. It all started pretty tame with a bottle of Tanqueray and shit tons of Red Bulls and tonic. We mostly just hung out and laughed. It was also fun to see Ns gay friend get so much female attention. He's very good looking and the girls were flocking to him. None seemed too put off by the fact that he's gay and in fact several joined us.
It was great fun just hanging out with the gang, just laughing and drinking. But when the dancing started, the slippery slope had begun. First and and I started dancing at the edge of the booth. And we had G join us in a three way dance.
I really don't recall how it transitioned from that to a full on dance party but it seems to be when the rest of the crew started leaving with their girls about 1 AM. At that point it was me and N and G and three other girls we didn't know, but who were super friendly.
So after we reduced to this smaller crew of 6, the party was on! We first started dancing in a ring around the table in the booth. And it was crazy off the hook shit -- everyone completely drunk and losing all inhibitions. But it got even better when we moved the party to the dance floor just in front of the stage. The band was popping, with a great female lead singer and the whole crew dancing up a storm and making insta videos.
At some point we are back in the booth with N next to me, G across and the three girls in between. N says "let's go dancing at another club which girl do I want to take with us?" I am not quite sure whether she means as arm candy for G, as I've been sponsoring him, or as a three-way for me (which we have lightly discussed in the past). I say I will take the girl named G (same name as gay G but female spelling) and and says she'll go speak with her.
So N goes and chats up the female G and she agrees to go for 1000 R. WTF? That is so low, so I assume that means it's the arm candy option.
So we bounce to the first club called Selve I think. It's on Rua Augusta, which not only houses the famous Casarao but many other clubs and party venues. It's not super crowded at 3 AM but we are undeterred and dance like maniacs. The most memorable parts are and jumping on the small stage and pole dancing fuck that girl is fire! And the fact that G was not at all gay that night! He and female G were like two Latin lovers dancing up a storm. Their chemistry was electric and you would surely take them for a dating couple.
After much fun there, they suggest we bounce to Casarao which seems odd to me as it's a girl buffet. But I say OK. But on entry they want a 450 R cover per girl! WTF? The entry lady shows me 900 on the calculator and I can't believe my eyes. Well fuck that!
The good news is that my bud T has gone to the swingers club and responds quickly with the address when I text him. So maybe 4 AM we hit Opium. Very cool club BTW. Recommend.
There is a T-shaped stage with two dance poles and T's girl is on stage dancing in just bra and gstring with maybe 30 spectators. Well N being N, she pops up on stage and fuck that girl can bring it. Before long she has her jeans down to her lower hips exposing her fabulous ass and soon her tits are out! N's gorgeous natural DDs are the life of the party! Not to be outdone, T's girl follows suit and loses her top. Just me, T, the two GS and thirty of our closest friends ogling our half naked rockstar girls. Does it get any better? Well maybe.
After maybe 20 minutes the girls hop down and we head up to the warren of rooms upstairs. It's quite dark most places but you can choose your poison as far as voyeurism-level is concerned, running from totally private, to a window where people can watch you, to a well lit couches area where a guy was getting blown!
We opt for the semi private but quite dark space where there are kinda two ottomans, one inside a cage. T and his girl get the open ottoman and N and female G and I go into the cage. At this point my tiny pea brain is slowly realizing that female G is a present from and to me and the threeway is on!
Like I say, it was dark as fuck which is unfortunate because I can't observe the action too well. It all starts with a double BJ which is a fave. One on balls and one on shaft. Very good. A bit of BJ sandwich. Def some sloppy stuff going on (the girls did very well considering they've never met). At some point and gets the condom out because, although I fuck N bare, obviously she doesn't want me fucking other chicks bare. Totally get it.
So I fuck G really good doggie style. She has that great Brazilian ass that even skinny brasileiras do. And affectionately rubs on G and there may have been some kissing not sure. Unfortunately I can't drop a load after a good while and gets frustrated and says "let's go". Did not love this but she made up for it later.
We wrap up at the sex club maybe 5:30? And get an Uber back to my hotel. As we are riding there my alcohol addled brain is beginning to process that all four of us are headed back to my suite. N and me and the two GS. Gay G (not so gay?) and girl G.
So we pile into my suite which has a fully separate living area with two couches and party like rockstars. I'm really surprised hotel security wasn't called because two floors up they did on my friends and they were just talking loud at 8 Pm. We were having a full on rave at 6:30 AM! Hahaha.
I guess we just dance and party for quite a while with N and me getting sexy and close and the GS doing the same. Well at some point N has me lean back on the couch and starts her patented strip tease and I start videoing it. She's dancing sexy as only a professional dance girl can do, and then has her pants halfway down and g string exposed. Then the DDs come out. Wowser. And the pants come all the way off.
That's where the video stops but the action doesn't. She gets my pants around my ankles and starts a slow and sexy blowjob while motioning G to join. (Female G. LOL) They get a truly nice setup going where N is kneeling on the couch and shaft gobbling from above, while G is on her knees in front of me sucking my balls from beneath. Omfg this is amazing.
I had fucked G at the club with a condom in deference to N. But now it was Ns turn to fuck and that's going to be bare. With no prompting, she gets on her knees on the couch ass facing outward and pulls the gstring aside for me to enter her. Don't have to ask me twice! The fucking is slow and beautiful and enhanced by making out with G and feeling her nice firm Bcups. But the finisher is when G gets on the couch and straddles N, facing away from me with her pussy inches from my face. I insert my index finger and start the slippery slide in and out. OMG. Fucking while fingering is legendary and I blow a hot load inside and in fairly short order (for me! Epic.
Around 730 N has ordered gourmet cheeseburgers from room service! Hahahaha what a great move. Best cheeseburger I've ever eaten! From there G and G cuddle on the couch like lovers would and we get them a blanket. N and I pass out in the bed and we close out the best single night of debauchery in my life!
N left late Sunday night. She was super disappointed to be cut loose, but I needed to get back to the girl buffet. And really I needed some sleep. I crashed for like 10 hours. (But spoiler alert - I missed N too much and we had another date on Wed, below)
I also needed to let N go because C was coming back for lunch Monday morning. She got there right around the start of the Brazil game. The hotel lobby was packed and two of my crew had a small table. So wasn’t sure what to do with C joining plus more of the crew expected. Well glass half full guy that I am, waiter says “what about here” and moves us to a big table with its own private TV. Perfect.
The game itself was epic with Brazil winning with a last minute goal. The place erupted. It was def a lucky coincidence to be in Brazil during World Cup. Such great energy. But of course I’m here to fuck not watch futebol!
So C and I head up to the suite post-game and have another epic session. I think she would fuck me cowgirl for a full hour if I let her. Honestly I don’t get too much outta CG but just try to stay hard so she can get off. It’s so sexy to see this girl grinding and sweating and cooing as she try’s to get that first O. Then a little appreciative in and out and she starts to build again and boom number two. Then 3 4 5. Hahaha I let her have five again before going back to BJ and then mish CIP.
After letting C go around 6 I crashed hard. Woke around 9 quite refreshed and thought why not try to see Juliana at GGs. I liked her. So I text the fellas if they wanna join but they are already there! Great minds….
At GG we see Marks girl and laugh a bit with her. She’s soooo great and such a little firecracker. And then on the prowl I see Juliana but she’s a bit cool. Turns out I accidentally ghosted her plus she has a client so we don’t get to fuck. That’s ok, we’ll just go to Casarao and find a cheap fuck!
Casarao is hopping despite it being a Monday. Lots of doable girls by my standard (I actually prefer darker girls with more indigenous Brasilian feature) but I’m really here for one thing — A great BJ. When I am at the bar a moderately cute girl with a little baby fat (but not fat) chats me up. Something about Gabriella says “great BJ” so being VERY explicit this time I take her to the room for 600R for an hour.
A forum member mentioned to confirm an hour with the front desk when u check in so there is no way for the girl to book a half. Good tip and I did this. Here’s the funny thing. I didn’t know but they serve drinks right at the hotel check in. The room for an hour, a jack and coke, a gin tropical, and a bottle of water. $50USD for everything. Niceeeee! And off we go.
In the room wouldn’t u know it - there is the pay up front discussion. I refuse to do it but say I will show it to her. I show her in my wallet and she says I need to get it out. So I get it out and she wants to count it. Not only does she count it she holds one of the bills up to the light. Jesus fuck. Really? Anyhow I put it on the table under the radio and she is satisfied.
Despite this foolishness the service is great. Solid fucking and a truly great BJ to CIM. Lovely attentive girl for the most part. At the end tho she says the money is soo little. And I just say it’s what we agreed and we pack it up. Finally a properly executed Casarao session! Thank u baby Jesus!!!
Tuesday is date night with H, my new dream girl from Meu Patricinio. The girl I had mind- blowing sex a week ago for free! We agreed to meet today so we can meet again day after tomorrow if things continue to go well. (And they do!)
I’ve set the date at Seen cuz I do love it there and she’s never been. I get there around 730 and it’s not hard to get a table. But by 8:00 it’s packed. So def get there early if I don’t want to wait. She is late of course, per the Brasileira playbook. But this gives me time to watch the most hilarious Meu Patricinio date unfolding next to me. Clueless American on a 100% Google Translate date with a hottie half his age. He is trying to speak some Porto but he is impossibly bad. She’s just being sweet as can be. It’s just so funny to watch it “out of body” and he’s waaaaay worse than me but still gonna fuck!
A moment before she arrives, H texts and says “can I kiss u when I arrive? Is it ok to kiss in public?” And given the green light she plants an amazing “I missed u” kiss on me right at the table (love that shit). The food is amazing as always and she is so tickled that I am giving her a tour of the best spots in her own city!
Speaking of which, from here we bounced to Punch Bar, a tiny little Japanese Craft cocktails bar near Paulista. As usual there is a closed sign because they are full. But I know to knock and inquire and sure enough we are able to get in 5 minutes later. We get the big table at the front (only one table!) and feel like royalty. Of course the drinks are great and she is over the moon being treated like a princess at exclusive venues like these.
Surely we look ridiculous but we make out like drunken teenagers a few times over the next hour right there at the table. Fuuuuuck she kisses good. After our second or third round of kissing we can’t take it anymore so we bounce to the hotel. My chat history says it’s 12:15AM by then so we had an almost 5 hour date and haven’t even fucked yet! That’s how amazing this vibe is.
The fucking is just off the charts. You know when u just have chemistry with someone and everything just clicks and u just can’t get enough? That’s this girl. She has the most perfect gym rat body but with that perfect firm/squishy Brasileira ass and the most lovely bcups with those tan lines. Watching her ride cowgirl is a spectacle burned forever in my mind. And her BJ is the best of the trip — and I had some good ones. I’ve only had two girls before ever who could deep throat and then lightly touch you balls with their tongue while deep throating. Amazing. Well she could do one better — get all the way deep throat and then go around the world on your balls with her tongue. And she did it A LOT. WTF? Unbelievable.
Well after a ton of fucking and another 4-5 orgasms with her riding, we finish with a CIM and she keeps going and swallows every drop. We crash and snuggle and pillow talk. But before u know it we start kissing again and that lights the fire again. Despite much fucking and BJ I can’t pull the rabbit out of the hat this time, but we clock in at nearly two hours of going at it! What a wildcat.
I forgot to mention that N and I had a little falling out Sunday night when I cut her loose because she thought we would see each other more than three days. Well I really do love this girl so I said let’s talk it out — and we did intermittently during the day Tuesday. I asked if she wanted to meetup Wed but she didn’t respond.
In the meantime, I have another MP date for lunch— short story is she was a pretty girl but mechanical and lame and so it was a bust. Tho I nutted by hand. 😂 And then I scheduled a date for that night with Juliana since I hadn’t heard from N. But then N comes through and damn I love that girl and need to make things right so I cancel with Juliana (she is super sweet about it) and book N to come to Scan with me for the send off of T who is leaving the following day.
Being back w N is just so comfortable. Of course she’s smoking hot but we just have that BFGF vibe that is unmistakable. So we dance and party with the crew and have the best time. N somehow magically negotiates 1000R takeout at 1:30 AM with her friend and another brand new girl from Rio. The friend is just ok but the Rio girl is smoking.
We literally stumble into the hotel at 1:30 — me and three girls all dressed like sluts and neither security nor reception bats an eye. I love Brazil! In the room it’s all a bit of a blur. But there are two condoms and wrappers on the floor in the morning. I remember fucking Rio girl with condom. Guess I fucked the other girl. Fucked N bare of course. And I remember fingering Rio girl while doing it. Looooove that.
At some point we call it a night and the two other girls leave. N crashes in my bed but leaves about 8 for a 9 am meeting. That’s good, cuz I have H at 1 pm! Jesus fuck. I am insatiable — but it’s my last day in Brasil.
I don’t know how I muster the energy but I get ready for the tigress. She is quite late and I have a 4 PM checkout. Fortunately she has her priorities straight and says “ok let’s skip lunch and save that time. I’ll just come to your room.” Still can’t believe she’s going to uber an hour just to fuck me again. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. 😂
When H arrives out front I am again struck by how stunning she is. Not in a statuesque model kind of way, but in a fit gym girl kind of way. She’s wearing daisy dukes with heels that show off her amazingly fit legs and a blousy white crop top. Her cascades of black Brasileira hair are bouncing as she walks in like she owns the place.
Up to the room and a quick stop in the restroom and it’s ON. We start by kissing standing up. Even though she’s short, in heels she can look up to her tall gringo and make out like nobodies business. All brasileiras can kiss. But something about her kisses is so urgent and hungry and I know she’s getting wet downstairs.
As the passion swells she pulls off her top and reveals that she’s not even wearing a bra. Her perfect Bcups sit up so high, there is just no need. I bend and put a nipple in my mouth. Sucking and licking and making them perky and hard she moans and I know she’s can’t wait much longer.
She gets my pants off and pushes me into a seated position at the edge of the bed to start her legendary BJ. Thank god I’ve been fucking up a storm, including N and the two Scan hotties less than 12 hours ago, because I’d blow a load in the first two minutes otherwise. But in my condition she blows me for a solid 10 mins before we change position.
We move up on the bed and she wants me to fuck right now, laying on her back and spreading her legs invitingly. So I dive right in. She’s super tight at first but loosens a bit as she gets hornier and hornier. We flip to cowgirl and it’s her turn to crank out those five or so orgasms she is known for. Watching her fuck me and sweat and strain, tits bouncing or tight against my chest is the sexiest thing. No problem staying hard but not gonna cum.
I fuck her some in doggie but then pull her to the end of the bed on her back for DATY. She loves the way I do that and I let her control a lot of the action by letting her hump my tongue and bottom lip again get clit. I guess we did good cuz she about broke my glasses. I had to take them off when the thigh clamps started or they were a goner!
I let her rest about a minute at the edge of the bed my hard cock in hand, ready for what’s next. And what’s next is The Steve. I plunge in standing at the edge of the bed and start a good pounding. There is a mirror over by the desk where u can see the action and seeing me impaling this petite hottie is mind blowing. Another visual burned in my mind is her perfect tits with tan lines bouncing up and down vigorously while I pump away. Memories!
We end up with me on my back for an amazing CIM finish and then cuddle and pillow talk a bit. It’s hot in the bedroom though so we adjourn to the couch in the other part of the suite where it’s cooler. We both snooze a bit intertwined and it’s so cute she is getting little involuntary movements in her sleep like puppies do. lol.
Well I won’t bore you with the rest of the details except to say that kissing her is like an On/Off switch for both of us. So when we start that, I get hard and she gets wet and the passion reignites and round two is on! I fuck her some in the couch in doggie looking out at the city beyond. But we go back to the bed to get serious and close things out.
After sex we bop downstairs to checkout and have a final fairwell lunch. We share an amazing cheeseburger and do a lot of eye gazing. I mean who the fuck does that. We’re like in a little movie script about star struck teenagers. LOL. Alas I must let her go to avoid the heinous SP traffic. But wow. Gonna repeat some time somewhere.
So now I have a few hours to kill between checkout at 4 and 10 pm when my flight is. Actually if I hang at the hotel too long I will hit horrible traffic. Why not head to Scan and just have some drinks? I don’t have to take a girl. Just enjoy the amazing venue. And for the first 30 minutes this is exactly what happens, as I watch World Cup.
But after 30 minutes, I noticed all the girls are walking out to the big patio. So I figured I’d take a stroll. Didn’t get but 30 feet before I ran into Thais, one of Marks regulars. Stunning girl with short red hair and a banging body (only stunning girls can pull off short hair). I say hi and we chat amiably for a bit. She says she’s mad at Mark but I assure her he’s a quality human and she seems mollified.
Just sipping a Red Bull to keep my eyes open till the flight and lightly chatting with Thais, when the insidious little idea of “one more” enters my head. I mean Thais is a stunner. We agree Mark would be cool with it and off we go.
The summary with Thais is top five tits on planet earth and very service oriented. Wanted me to put my hands on her head to direct pace of BJ for example. And later said “tell me what u want from me.” She’s a very prepared girl and carries Skyn Elite and plenty of lube. All in all a great fuck and high recommend, especially if tits/optics are important. Cuz wow.
And so ends my latest SP romp. Statistically as follows:
10 days 18 girls - 16 new and 2 regulars
3 scams. 2 mediocre. 13 good to stunning
Amazing 4 days with regular GF
Amazing 3 dates with new MP girl (free!!!)
(Fucked for free three times with two rounds second and third time)
Casarao 3 nights
Gauguin 2 nights
Scandallo 6 nights
Highest Scan bill not including girls or rooms = $1200 USD. 😂
Have fun fellas! It doesn’t get any better than São Paulo.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3073378]Casarao is hopping despite it being a Monday. Lots of doable girls by my standard (I actually prefer darker girls with more indigenous Brasilian feature) but Im really here for one thing A great BJ. When I am at the bar a moderately cute girl with a little baby fat (but not fat) chats me up. Something about Gabriella says great BJ so being VERY explicit this time I take her to the room for 600R for an hour.
A forum member mentioned to confirm an hour with the front desk when u check in so there is no way for the girl to book a half. Good tip and I did this. Heres the funny thing. I didnt know but they serve drinks right at the hotel check in. The room for an hour, a jack and coke, a gin tropical, and a bottle of water. $50USD for everything. Niceeeee! And off we go.
In the room wouldnt u know it - there is the pay up front discussion. I refuse to do it but say I will show it to her. I show her in my wallet and she says I need to get it out. So I get it out and she wants to count it. Not only does she count it she holds one of the bills up to the light. Jesus fuck. Really? Anyhow I put it on the table under the radio and she is satisfied.[/QUOTE]Wow Steve,
I'd say you got lucky with this one.
Usually when there is all this rigamarole, the service is weak. Generally, girls who complain about the money don't even earn what you pay them.
Glad you had a good time.
Phew that's a long 3 part report. Thanks for writing.
You had a lot of fun. Fucked for free, nice. Was the sex better than the pros?
Never tried MP. Learn something new everyday.
I don't think and as proved below payment upfront = bad service. I cut a room short in Casarao and the girl refunded 50% even though I said to keep it. Honor among GDPs.
Once a girl felt terrible because I was saving pops and didn't cum.
Bad service girl can also demand full payment after despite your dissatisfaction. What're you going to do? Not pay, renegotiate.
SP is the best. Despite my love of FKKs, I'll give this win to SP. The variety and formats available is mindblowing.
Long live Brazil.
I also got caught in football game. Man I need to fuck, it's like whole Brazil has stopped. Scandallo bouncers at the gate, the coffee dessert guy at the elevator entrance all on their phones watching games. The girl wearing yellow Brazilian shirt, waiting for the game to be over. Looking bored. With the Brazilian flags in scandallo it's the most patriotic I have ever seen. Some girls also even had their face painted with Brazilian flags. The Uber on the way The streets were empty and all the bars I can see through. We're watching the game.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3073378]10 days 18 girls - 16 new and 2 regulars
3 scams. 2 mediocre. 13 good to stunning
Amazing 4 days with regular GF
Amazing 3 dates with new MP girl (free!!!)
(Fucked for free three times with two rounds second and third time)
Casarao 3 nights
Gauguin 2 nights
Scandallo 6 nights
Highest Scan bill not including girls or rooms = $1200 USD. 😂
Have fun fellas! It doesnt get any better than So Paulo.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for great reports my boy.
I'm going to Sampa in a while.
Have been to both Scandallo and Casarao. I found both of them to be f-ing awesome. Actually did find Casarao to be equally nice as Scandallo but cheaper. Scandallo is quite expensive but at the same time did not find the talent at the clinicas to be up to my standards and liking at all so will not go back to the clinicas.
Will definitely check out that MP app.
I want to fuck for free as well xD LOL.
One input regarding scamming in Casarao.
I fucked one onsite she was drunk as hell but a nice fuck! Had one toda la noite in my hotel, she was hot but scammed me. She left after 1.5-2 hours with me in the hotel. Even though we agreed on all nighter back in the club. *****, I had her real name before but I don't have it anymore. She was not worth it at all. Can't remember what I paid think it was between 1000-1200 .
To warn others.
So you guys would recommend paying at the end. Will the girls accept that in theory the customer can scam the girls as well.
What would you do if the date left several hours earlier than planned? Make a scene at the hotel.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3073506] So you guys would recommend paying at the end. Will the girls accept that in theory the customer can scam the girls as well.
What would you do if the date left several hours earlier than planned? Make a scene at the hotel.[/QUOTE]Never pay in advance! And although this situation rarely arises with my Boate picks, the bottom line is I will end it if a girl does not accept my payment afterwards although in such situations I will try to be reasonable and go as far as showing her the money, even putting the cash on the nightstand to prove my intent, but if after all that, she still insists on payment first, then I show her the door.
Why? Because if you pay in advance, you are in effect creating a moral dilemma for some girls who will give you less because they have already been paid. Not all girls, maybe not even a majority of girls behave this way, but a significant proportion will underperform if you pay them in advance and who wants that?
In rare situations when a girl wants to leave early even though she agreed to an all-night / multiple shag session; let her! There is nothing you can do to convince her to stay and why would you want her to stay after making a BS move like that. BUT in such a situation I have given the girl proportionally less ie if the verbal contract was $$ for all night and at least 2 shags, I would give her $ half of the agreed amount for the service given. A few girls might try to make a fuss in the room. Don't argue or lose your temper. Simply pick up the phone and ask her if she wants security to come up and escort her out of the hotel or leave on her own accord. They will all choose to leave except for the psychos. KKK. But all this is very, very rare. In the 5 years since I have been visiting Brazil only a handful of girls have asked to be paid in advance, all escort girls (BTW), and of those 2 girls stormed out of my room incensed that I wouldn't pay in advance and 2 or 3 other girls accepted my "the money is on the nightstand / you can have it after we are done" compromise.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3073506]Thanks for great reports my boy.
I'm going to Sampa in a while.
Have been to both Scandallo and Casarao. I found both of them to be f-ing awesome. Actually did find Casarao to be equally nice as Scandallo but cheaper. Scandallo is quite expensive but at the same time did not find the talent at the clinicas to be up to my standards and liking at all so will not go back to the clinicas.
Will definitely check out that MP app.
I want to fuck for free as well xD LOL.
One input regarding scamming in Casarao.
I fucked one onsite she was drunk as hell but a nice fuck! Had one toda la noite in my hotel, she was hot but scammed me. She left after 1.5-2 hours with me in the hotel. Even though we agreed on all nighter back in the club. *****, I had her real name before but I don't have it anymore. She was not worth it at all. Can't remember what I paid think it was between 1000-1200 .
To warn others.
So you guys would recommend paying at the end. Will the girls accept that in theory the customer can scam the girls as well.
What would you do if the date left several hours earlier than planned? Make a scene at the hotel.[/QUOTE]Have a plan to get her out of your room. Dudes spend more time planning to get her ass in than the plan to get her out. This month is preventing violence against women month. She can claim all sorts of shit to make a scene in your hotel & airbnb. She knows they have cameras in the hallways. Recording interactions.
Even if you are a fluent brasilian speaker a garota running, crying in front of your aurbnb apartment or hotel room aint a good look.
Famous quote with hoes. Ya pay them to go away. Charlie Sheen: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave. " is good advice when you in a difficult spot about he said-she said verbal agreements. Think of your options if you try to prevent her from leaving or she demands more money and refuses to leave.
I use love motels until garotas are vetted. They are used to crazy ass garotas, jealous brasilian wives tracking down their unfaithful spouses. Love motels phone you in the toom to make sure your alive, not cinderalla to get your ok. And can pay before they let the garota leave. Kkk.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3073549]I use love motels until garotas are vetted. They are used to crazy ass garotas, jealous brasilian wives tracking down their unfaithful spouses. Love motels phone you in the toom to make sure your alive, not cinderalla to get your ok. And can pay before they let the garota leave. Kkk.[/QUOTE]That phone call is a good incentive for the girl to think twice before any stupidity. Many have no issue drugging or robbing a foreigner. Places that make sure to call before allowing someone to leave make me feel safer and more comfortable. Still won't completely let my guard down but I can relax a little more knowing someone is watching out for me.
Understand, but the problem / issue here was that the garota wanted to leave the hotel waay too early.
I don't even remember when I paid her I think it was in the beginning in the room (my mistake).
She shouldve stayed several hours more. I should maybe paid her only the half of the amount.
But would you guys try to get back some dollars in that situation or let her scam you.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3073549]Have a plan to get her out of your room. Dudes spend more time planning to get her ass in than the plan to get her out. This month is preventing violence against women month. She can claim all sorts of shit to make a scene in your hotel & airbnb. She knows they have cameras in the hallways. Recording interactions.
Even if you are a fluent brasilian speaker a garota running, crying in front of your aurbnb apartment or hotel room aint a good look..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3073572]Understand, but the problem / issue here was that the garota wanted to leave the hotel waay too early.
I don't even remember when I paid her I think it was in the beginning in the room (my mistake).
She shouldve stayed several hours more. I should maybe paid her only the half of the amount.
But would you guys try to get back some dollars in that situation or let her scam you.[/QUOTE]Once you give a girl the money, it's gone. KKK. She will never give it back! You might as well try to take a fresh kill away from a pride of female lions. So, let me remind you once again of mongering rule # 3: Never pay a FL, a SW, or an escort in advance! Only pay in advance in venues that require payment in advance like BKK Soapies. The difference is that in a high end classy soapy like La Belle, the customer is essentially relying on that specific venue's reputation and standing in the community, like in this example, La Belle, to guarantee a minimal level of acceptable performance from its employees. Not every session is going to be 4th of July no matter where you go, but every La Belle customer knows what the minimum is and is ok with it knowing that most of the time the girls exceed the minimum by a country mile, but in the off chance that your La Belle girl gets goofy in the room, all you have to do is go downstairs and talk to the manager. Thus, when you are with a independent contractor in your room, follow Rule #3 religiously or accept the fact that occasionally you will have negative consequences. It's all up to you. Do what works for you!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073594]Once you give a girl the money, it's gone. KKK. She will never give it back! You might as well try to take a fresh kill away from a pride of female lions. So, let me remind you once again of mongering rule # 3: Never pay a FL, a SW, or an escort in advance! Only pay in advance in venues that require payment in advance![/QUOTE]What I usually say to a girl who requests payment in advance is that she will be paid in the end after all services we have agreed to have been performed. If she continues to insist, then I will show her that I have the money. If that still isn't good enough, and if I really want her, then I will offer to pay half up front and the remainder at the end. And if she still isn't happy with that, then I have a choice to make. I can cave (so rare that I can't remember the last time I did that) or I can walk (also extremely rare because my compromise offers virtually always work). I have not found a strong correlation between girls who insist upon prepayment and scamming or poor performance. But if and when it does happen, as you say, you're going to be out the money. And complaining to management rarely ever works. Lastly, it should go without saying, but never send money to someone you don't know to arrange for a meetup later. It's just too easy to get defrauded doing that. By the way, what are your mongering rules #1 and #2? I know one of them has to be don't try to make a housewife out of a hoor LOL!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073594]Once you give a girl the money, it's gone. KKK. She will never give it back! You might as well try to take a fresh kill away from a pride of female lions. accept the fact that occasionally you will have negative consequences. It's all up to you. Do what works for you![/QUOTE]Had a close call refund episode at Casaro years ago. I posted refund experience on the forum.
It was a shorty curvy pale branca garota from MG. We agreed on BBBJ & CIM for 400 or 500 BRL (can't remember the exact amount).
She was drunk as hell from the strong whiskey pours and Hennessy drinks I was ordering.
She asked for the money upfront, I said: "Give me your high heel first. " I placed the cash on the table with her heel on top. The money was in sight, she couldn't just grab and dash. On one shoe.
I dropped trousers she got on her knees, opened her mouth widen for the service. I thought it was going to be great. When she reared her head back ready for the act, she let out a huge belch.
Fuck I jumped out of the way seconds before she started throwing up on the side of the bed. I asked, "Damn, what did you eat for lunch?" She apologized profusely, cleaned everything up, and offered to keep going.
Wtf I said no, the mood was gone and the room smelled unbearable.
She was embarrassed, apologized over and over, cleaned everything up, and even offered to keep going.
I told her, "Nah, sweetheart. The moment's gone, and the room smells like a hot dank sweaty hors house in summer heat with no AC. ".
She quietly got dressed, looked at the money on the table, grabbed her red high heel and said, "Keep it for next time. ".
Then she walked out without taking a single centavo.
We never met again, and I never saw her back at Casaro.
So technically it wasn't a refund since she never took the money in the first place but it's the closest I've ever come to getting my dough back.
Nowadays I've got a different strategy on the infrequent occasion paying in cash. I prefer to use card payment. But if we agree on, say, are $450 for an hour. I'll hand over are $500 and immediately say:
"Now give me my are $50 brl change. ".
And no. You're not paying it back in "extra time" or "extras. " I want my are $50 in cash. No Pix. 😂 I will wait. Kkk.
Have you guys gotten change back? I even had a garota write out a receipt on back of torn up little notebook paper to show she gave me cash back as change.
Damn fun tines with young newbie garotas from the interior,. At casarao.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;3072749]Seattle Turismo, trusted place for currency exchange in SP is closed. Went there on Monday, the entrance was shut. According to Google Maps it should be open.
Further search showed that they shut down because of high rent. Found a new place, Getmoney at Patio Paulista, their rate was 5. 12 (midmarket 5. 19), R$ 10,000 limit per day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for update. I always liked the Seattle Turismo. Hoping to visit them during my next month visit.
There is a currency exchange place on the 5th floor of Moema mall. If I remember correctly, they gave same exchange rate as Seattle Turismo. But they require a passport for identification.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;3072749]Seattle Turismo, trusted place for currency exchange in SP is closed. Went there on Monday, the entrance was shut. According to Google Maps it should be open.
Further search showed that they shut down because of high rent. Found a new place, Getmoney at Patio Paulista, their rate was 5. 12 (midmarket 5. 19), R$ 10,000 limit per day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for update. I always liked the Seattle Turismo. Hoping to visit them during my next month visit.
There is a currency exchange place on the 5th floor of Moema mall. If I remember correctly, they gave same exchange rate as Seattle Turismo. But they require a passport for identification.
Just wanted to say thanks, guys.
Big thanks to senior members like Tochka, The Cane, OkSwimmer5517, Steve9696, Vagabundo1, SocratesNY and plenty of others.
Really appreciate you taking the time to post your experiences and answer all the questions from us newbs. You guys have saved a lot of us from making expensive mistakes and getting ourselves into bad situations.
If I run into any of you on my September trip to Sao Paulo, first round is on me.
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3073825]Thanks for update. I always liked the Seattle Turismo. Hoping to visit them during my next month visit.
There is a currency exchange place on the 5th floor of Moema mall. If I remember correctly, they gave same exchange rate as Seattle Turismo. But they require a passport for identification.[/QUOTE]If you need foreign exchange on a weekend, Get Money Exchsnge Houses inside Shopping Ibirapuera mall has been reliable for me.Their published rates are on their website, and they're generally open during the mall's operating hours on Saturdays and Sundays.
One thing to know before you go: they operate much like an airport exchange counter. They require your original physical passportnot a photo on your phone and not a photocopy. If you read the online reviews, a lot of the complaints are from people who showed up without the original document and were turned away.
Get Money Exchange Houses, in Moema inside Shopping Ibirapuera Avenida Ibirapuera, 3103, Av. Moaci, 147 - Indianpolis, So Paulo. SP, 04088-005.
Their rate [URL]www.getmoney.com.br[/URL].
They are open Saturday & Sunday 10 to 7 or 8 pm. Or whatever hours are the shopping mall.
They operate like an airport exchange place requiring physical passport.
Original passport document, not ID on phone or copies. Reviews online bitterly complain about this mandatory ID check.
There is a bunch of paperwork receipts to sign, bunch of back and forth paperwork. I would always ask them for an envelope to put my money as a holder until I get back to apartment airbnb.
Expect a fair amount of paperwork. There are multiple receipts and forms to sign before everything is finished.
I always ask them for one of their envelopes to hold the cash until I get back to my apartment.
Once I leave the exchange, I'm carrying three things I don't want to lose: a wad of reais, my original passport, and my iPhone hanging from a lanyard.
That means it's a direct trip home.
No detours.
No "I'll just stop somewhere for five minutes. ".
No wandering into a spa or CLnica because someone I know happens to be working that shift. No stopping by clinica prime or the newly opened private clinca spa by appointment only near kalungs, no stopping by buddah spa, or going to Kalunga to buy electroinixs, no stopping by the sex shop across the street from Shoping Ibirapuera to pickup chiclet & strawberry flavored deep throat spray because blonde chubby Milly, Tabitha & Anny are damn pros with proven track record to sloppy slurp deep non stop for two hours. If you buy them flavored deep throat spray. Kkk.
No impulse shopping at Kalunga. (shit product quality).
I've learned the hard way that mixing a pocket full of cash with drinking & distractions is a bad combination. First secure the money and passport back at the Airbnb.
That's become one of my personal rules for Brazil:
Exchange cash. Go straight home. Lock everything up. Then go enjoy the afternoon.
It has saved me from unnecessary stress more than once.
I'm here for a month in SP and needed a local number so I can keep my lives (US vs Traveler) separate. Bought a cheap burner phone from amazon and brought it down with me. For those that want to get a prepaid number (3 R for sim and 200 R for 12 GB data) I went to Vivo in JKIguatemi. Ask for Renan and he will take care of it for you. You will need your passport. Process took about 15 minutes and I was out the door. To recharge, you can go to Oxxo, farmacia or a branch. I'll post my report later as I get settled into SP. Cliff hanger: I just banged a Victoria Secret Supermodel (Adriana Lima) look a like last night and have a date with her today.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;3074152]I'm here for a month in SP and needed a local number so I can keep my lives (US vs Traveler) separate. Bought a cheap burner phone from amazon and brought it down with me. For those that want to get a prepaid number (3 R for sim and 200 R for 12 GB data) I went to Vivo in JKIguatemi. Ask for Renan and he will take care of it for you. You will need your passport. Process took about 15 minutes and I was out the door. To recharge, you can go to Oxxo, farmacia or a branch. I'll post my report later as I get settled into SP. Cliff hanger: I just banged a Victoria Secret Supermodel (Adriana Lima) look a like last night and have a date with her today.[/QUOTE]Just FYI for anyone else in this situation, Vivo now offers a tourist e-SIM for 30 days for like $11. I had to jump through hoops to get a physical sim the last time I was here, but it was deactivated for inactivity since it's been a bit. The new tourist plan was incredibly quick and easy to setup.
[URL]https://vivo.com.br/para-voce/produtos-e-servicos/para-o-celular/tourist-plan[/URL]
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3074180]Just FYI for anyone else in this situation, Vivo now offers a tourist e-SIM for 30 days for like $11. I had to jump through hoops to get a physical sim the last time I was here, but it was deactivated for inactivity since it's been a bit. The new tourist plan was incredibly quick and easy to setup.
[URL]https://vivo.com.br/para-voce/produtos-e-servicos/para-o-celular/tourist-plan[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you. Looks like much better option than activating google fi and keeping it up for 3 months.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3066101]I did 2 trips recently just 1 week apart. 1st trip Brazil for 1 week and 2nd Germany for 4 days. I lost count but I fucked almost 40 girls in these 2 trips.
Where do I begin oh boy there is a lot to unpack.
Let's start with Brazil. The city is Sao Paulo, it's a major hub largest city with max population in Latin America and world cuisine, gourmet food, michellin star restaurants. And of course ultra modern luxurious sex entertainment.
I'll try my best to break down the scene in Brazil. It is mind blowing. Girls are a fucking 10/10. Great service with Brazilian passion and DFK.
There are 3 spots which I primarily visit all of them are nightclubs or "Boates" in Portuguese.
Scandallo. Biggest and the largest and the most famous venue. 150+ beautiful girls, dressed up and ready to go for romp, white table cloth restaurant, uber luxurious hotel for sexxyy time, lawn garden for smoking outdoor area, Live bands playing music, Brazilian professional events with well known artists. Pricing for 1 HR - 200 EUR for the girl + 50 EUR for the hotel. 250460...[/QUOTE]Sorry for such a basic question, but what are these currency amounts?
I just found this app. You can fund it via cash app or USDC coins from any blockchain (although most exchanges charge stupid fees to transfer coins).
Once funded you can pay PIX.
Send me a PM to be added to a VFH (Veterans of Foreign Hoars) group for SP and RJ friends.
It is worth the upgrade.
The community of mongers is a lost congregation of Israel, memorialized in Deuteronomy 69:69, the talmud, and is now 5873 years going strong, and includes all faiths, those under the crescent so long as you believe in rich world penis (including strapons, and vagabundo has a nice strapon for the ladies who want to slide 20 cm of hard rubber inside the kunt of a rich gringa from strausberg, and which favela negra does not want to ass fuck a rich gringa who is paying the local carioca? In the red tent of privileged little bitches, and all ya all are privileged littl bitches on your first trip to Brazil, just as vagabundo was, back in 1954, when he swam ashore at praia macumba, posto 12, barra, from a rich world submarine, the USS Jimmy Carter, locking out at 4 AM, and then whacking some enemy, just because his balls were so full of jism that he was oozing ten million little vagabundos in his precum from dreams about 1980's porno.
Speaking of which vagabundo fucked a regular prive girl for 50 or 51 minutes on Friday for a total cost of 250 r, 200 r for the girl and the house, and 50 for the raw use of her kunt.
So, kunt quants do the math. My CPFPM A is like. 974 pennies per minute.
Some quants give the world the sharpe ratio, professor vagabundo on the other hand gives you, CPFPMA in local rich world currency, USD.
It is not at all romantic. She is moving apartments. Jimmyboy, who is over in thailand at the moment may induge in romance, vagabundo, aka, rocky balboa, who is a former golden gloves boxer with a 0 and 1 record, uses fucking as cross training for fighting (while ignoring futbol, unless it is is pool voleiball with hot gringas, who usually find a reason to kick our hero from their pools), was just there to get a massge to his penis. Protip, always talk about your dick in centimeters. This alone is comedic gold. And as a gringo, your attempt to pronounce centimeter will elicit howls of laughter AT you, maybe WITH you, if you also refer to your kielbasa as bengala, which is apparently a real PLACE in Africa, the most fertile continent on the planet.
[QUOTE=Azzazelo;3074012]Just wanted to say thanks, guys.
Big thanks to senior members like Tochka, The Cane, OkSwimmer5517, Steve9696, Vagabundo1, SocratesNY and plenty of others.
Really appreciate you taking the time to post your experiences and answer all the questions from us newbs. You guys have saved a lot of us from making expensive mistakes and getting ourselves into bad situations.
If I run into any of you on my September trip to Sao Paulo, first round is on me.[/QUOTE]
Day 1: went to Guagin because it was close to my hotel. I have been to Scan before and it is very similar and I can see why its called Scan Lite. Came a little early about 8:30 pm and can confirm that if you wanted to save a little cash then its a good bet (150 R vs 350 R I think too drunk to remember). Also confirmed if you buy a bottle, they will keep it for 3 months and you can come in and drink it until empty. I can't confirm about prices being cheaper before 9 pm because I was too busy trying to scope out the talent and paid no attention to the time. Ended up getting a MaC12. Got a couple of numbers and was blown away by a young Michelle Pfiefer who spoke pretty good English. But as with every experience I've had at any country, a girl who speaks english will demand a premium. She wanted 2500 for TN. Told her I will consider it and took her number.
Day 2. Went to Casarao to just check it out and see what type of the experience. Chatted up a girl next to me and we ended up in the room. As I was returning to get some more drinks I saw a Adriana Lima look a like walk by me. I quickly grabbed her and we ended up in the room as well. She was fantastic so I negotiated a TN next night. Very reasonable and her personality was just great as well so I confirmed for next day.
Day 3. Adriana meets me at hotel and we go to dinner. After we go to a place called Inner-City. I can say it was an eye opener and she said there were a few others. Not really my thing but it was fun just to experience the club. After the club we went back to my hotel and did the deed. She is excellent more than I expected.
Not going to go into details of the sexcapades as every one has their own and I think most people are more interested in the prices so I will stick to those points.
Gaugin: 1200 to 1800 for TN.
Casarao: 300 to 400 for an hour. 1200 to 1500 for TN.
Also, from Hyatt to Casarao was about 25 min RT. I used uber black and each way was about 50 R.
Bahamas Hotel Club, from past to present:
[URL]https://gq.globo.com/noticias/noticia/2026/07/bahamas-polemica-casa-noturna-de-sp-fecha-as-portas-apos-morte-de-empresario-oscar-maroni-e-ser-assumida-por-herdeiros.ghtml[/URL]
[QUOTE=Questner;3074417]Bahamas Hotel Club, from past to present:
[URL]https://gq.globo.com/noticias/noticia/2026/07/bahamas-polemica-casa-noturna-de-sp-fecha-as-portas-apos-morte-de-empresario-oscar-maroni-e-ser-assumida-por-herdeiros.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]I've only gone to Bahamas a handful of times because it's the only real boate in moema (57 becomes one at night sure but its just clinical girls getting together than an actual boate with more non pro just trying to make a few extra bucks) and it was always less than 5 mins where I would usually airbnb.
I met this amazing redhead MILF.
She never told me her age but she had to be 45-50.
She was very secretive but she was fun.
Bahamas was always in the guys favor as everytime I went there would be only 2-5 guys max and there was always 10-15 girls.
Not a lot but the girls were always pretty good looking with short girls, fit girls, chubby, etc so good variety as well.
Food was nice too and the entrance fee if you came before 9 pm included at least a meal and drink.
It was about 125 reais I think.
Girls were always cool and never bothered you unless you called them over.
Some would be wearing lingerie and was the only boate I know where girls can actually dress like a terma girl in rio.
Anyways I met this red lady in Bahamas and she spoke decent english but we spoke porto the whole time
Went up the room and did it twice.
Got her number and had her over my place for the night later that week for 1 k and just lots of fun.
She would always go like 3-4 rounds until we fell asleep from exhaustion and we would get breakfast across the street the next day.
Last time I met her was last year.
We ended up meeting up at smart fit gym down the street from my place.
She had a top level membership so she got me in as a plus 1 and we worked out together.
She was in amazing shape, big natural DDDs and an ass so firm you would think it was sculpted.
Anyways she told me she was leaving for europe in a few months and so I wouldn't see her for at least a year due to our travel schedule so I decided to go all out and have a fun night.
We went to banana club to check out the scene and maybe find a third.
Then we went to vitrinni club but it was a much younger crowd like young 20 somethings and I guess it made her uncomfortable.
We then went to some regular clubs like the history club and she enjoyed that.
We then went to two swing clubs just to check them out together and she also liked that and got a little frisky but wanted to save my load back at my place.
We ended up getting mcdonalds at 4 am after all that mess and it was nice. like we were two teenagers
We joked that we could get marry and I could get my brazilian visa and she could get american citizenship.
She smiled and she that would be nice.
We got back to my place and after a few round it was almost 6 am.
She told me lets do one more and she had to go.
She said she would actually be leaving for europe that same week and she didn't know when or if she would be back.
So we did it like we'd never see each other again.
Then she left and I've yet to see her for 2 years now.
I still think about her from time to time.
Some girls you really wish you could meet in another time, in another place, in the light of the day
i've fell in love too many times in brazil
she was the only girl i've ever done at bahamas and guess that's how it will stay
sometimes that's all you really need is that one good one
So yea Bahamas was pretty good to me
Flying in to GRU now and have a 14 hour layover arriving around 8 pm.
Haven't decided what to do was thinking about Scandallo but it's a bit far. How much cash would you suggest bringing? Also wondering if there is some other good establishments close to GRU. And if there's any suggestions that also has strippers dancing.
Hurin.
Been stuck in this rut of going to SP followed by Germany and so on. I tried to break it by going to Toronto once and it worked up to an extent but not that SP Boate level good.
4 places I've been studying that I've never visited -.
1. HK in Tijuana, Mexico. Apparently this is not good.
[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3072826]HK is no where near Scandallo! HK is a far cry not only from the talent of scandallo but the overall class of the place has gone downhill. Is it better than Scandallo. I wish. Can't wait to be back in SP![/QUOTE]2. T2 Classic in Jakarta, Indonesia. Apparently this gave some guy STDs. And I'm not that into Asian girls anyways.
[QUOTE=Safado70;3072945]chancroid is something else. I have these ulcers on my dick. They hurt. And I have to wait for them to heal before I can start to have sex again. It's been 10 days now and no signs of healing. My trip ends in 10 days and I don't think they will heal before that. An entire mongering trip without sex. What a fuck.[/QUOTE]3. 4 x4, MC, Solarium, Centaurus in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil. I have to go there playing dead, expecting disappointment.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3074305]Based on your background in SP as I said I think Rio is going to disappoint you.[/QUOTE]4. Medellin, Colombia. Same disappointment.
[QUOTE=Combo;3019977]Don't go expecting to find something similar to Scandallo or the FKKs or you'll be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. I can't jump on a plane with a preset mindset to be disappointment. I need hope. KKK.
This is it bois. We've hit the ceiling. SP it is.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3074460]I've only gone to Bahamas a handful of times because it's the only real boate in moema (57 becomes one at night sure but its just clinical girls getting together than an actual boate with more non pro just trying to make a few extra bucks) and it was always less than 5 mins where I would usually airbnb.[/QUOTE]I was never a fan of Bahamas Club. But, what I have learned over time is that every time a club or establishment goes offline, the overall scene loses a little bit of its vitality, or maybe even a lot of it, like when a place with the status and impact of say a Club Help closes. I tip my glass to the fallen!
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3074480]Been stuck in this rut of going to SP followed by Germany and so on. I tried to break it by going to Toronto once and it worked up to an extent but not that SP Boate level good.
4 places I've been studying that I've never visited -.
1. HK in Tijuana, Mexico. Apparently this is not good.
2. T2 Classic in Jakarta, Indonesia. Apparently this gave some guy STDs. And I'm not that into Asian girls anyways.
3. 4 x4, MC, Solarium, Centaurus in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil. I have to go there playing dead, expecting disappointment.
4. Medellin, Colombia. Same disappointment.
Thanks a lot. I can't jump on a plane with a preset mindset to be disappointment. I need hope. KKK.
This is it bois. We've hit the ceiling. SP it is.[/QUOTE]Honestly u are on point. Make Scan the very last thing you try not the first because it's all downhill. I tell guys. Go to FKK. You will be an amazed. Go a few times. You will still be amazed. Go to Bangkok. Amazing. Still is amazing. Go to Rio. Enjoy the sights and the beaches and the girls. Amazing. THEN go to Scandallo. Because you can enjoy the others before. But U will never enjoy them as much after.
Another week down in Sao Paulo, and while I've intended to explore more I've definitely fallen into a familiar habit.
When I've wanted some fun during the day I've been bouncing between Yankin and Tangara, rooms are 260 R for an hour or 270 if you use a card. They've had a pretty good lineup for me, and being at that price point I haven't wandered too much. I actually ran into a girl I used to fuck at Casarao two years ago now working at Tangara, same great fuck but at half the cost.
I keep considering making my way back to Gauguin or Scandallo, but I always end up at Casarao and I have to say I haven't regretted it.
The Monday and Tuesday lineup were both great, I did a threesome with a girl I know and this other girl she clearly had a crush on. I wasn't planning to do a threesome but I had bought a drink for both of them and the girl I new kept making the new girl rub my cock while we were chatting. After like an hour of that I said might as well, and they took 400 R each for a half hour. The girl I knew was all about it, but the other one was definitely kind of dragging her feet in the shower initially and generally being more uptight. I still had fun of course, but its exactly the reason I don't typically do threesomes as its another potential point of failure when you don't know the girls well or how they'll interact.
The next night I fucked this super slim girl with a perfect ass and nice tits for her frame for 800 R including anal, and she took it surprisingly well for her size. I don't love the price increase at Casarao from my last trip, but I've sort of made my peace with it by insisting on the girls giving up their ass. It just makes it feel like a better value even if I'm not expressly in the mood for it. I was getting ready to leave, but of course I am chatting with this girl at the bar and end up doing another threesome. The first girl had great energy and I was telling her I wasn't going to do anything tonight, but bought her a drink as we chatted. She was being super flirty and fun at the bar, and introduced me to her girlfriend who similarly had a great attitude. They asked for 600 R each for an hour, and off we went. This threesome was definitely a step up from the other one as they had great chemistry together.
Thursday rolls around and I make my way back to Casarao, and the lineup is absolutely insane. Upon arrival I spot no less than eight girls who were solidly Scandallo tier. I don't say that lightly, and most nights I would say only 1-2 girls may qualify for that exclusive bracket, but Thursday was absolutely insane. In an unfortunate twist, having so many options I dragged my feet for too long and missed out on all of them. Fortunately there were no shortage of options, and I spent an hour in a decent looking girls ass for 800 R.
That brings us to Sunday. You don't have many options, and I was eyeing a place called Fortalenza Bar before deciding to stick with what I know. I'm off to Casarao again, and spot two actual Scandallo girls taking some extra shifts. On previous trips Sundays were always risky, but with huge potential for upside. Now I don't feel like there is much risk at all, because as much as I dislike the new prices I was never without options.
One thing to keep in mind that is a significant difference between Scandallo and Casarao, beyond the obvious things, is that at Scan if you blow all your cash and your dick decides you're not done it is very easy to pay the girl with your credit card. Its expensive, but easy. At Casrao that is not the case. Some girls are setup to take credit cards, but many are not and in any case it feels a lot less secure having the girl tap your card on her phone. They will also charge more because of the high fees. I'd really like a place more in line with the old Casarao 500-600 R for an hour, but nothing has jumped out at me yet.
Has anyone actually used one of those new wallet apps for foreign PIX payments? I've seen two of them pop up but haven't pulled the trigger on actually using it yet.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3074480]Been stuck in this rut of going to SP followed by Germany and so on. I tried to break it by going to Toronto once and it worked up to an extent but not that SP Boate level good.
4 places I've been studying that I've never visited -.
1. HK in Tijuana, Mexico. Apparently this is not good.
2. T2 Classic in Jakarta, Indonesia. Apparently this gave some guy STDs. And I'm not that into Asian girls anyways.
3. 4 x4, MC, Solarium, Centaurus in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil. I have to go there playing dead, expecting disappointment.
4. Medellin, Colombia. Same disappointment.
Thanks a lot. I can't jump on a plane with a preset mindset to be disappointment. I need hope. KKK.
This is it bois. We've hit the ceiling. SP it is.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%.
Tijuana is where I started my "Journey" years ago, back in the days of TJA forum. Those were some good times. HK has definitely become a shadow of what it used to be.
Medellin gets a lot of hype, but it's nowhere near SP when it comes to quality, talent and ambience.
I would also add DR (Puerto Plata, Sosa, Cabarete) to the list of places that are just not worth the trip anymore compared to better options out there.
Hello all,
Planning on visiting SP soon, and have been reading all your tips which are wonderful.
I was wondering do airbnbs in Brazil / SP allow different visitors or am I better with a hotel? Would love some thoughts from you all. Thank you so much!
FYI. Recently, I signed up for a cultural tour to attend an indigenous ceremony in Xingu region. The operator only accepted pix payment and I was able to make two remitly payments to her pix account. As you may already know, it requires CPF number.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3074540]Has anyone actually used one of those new wallet apps for foreign PIX payments? I've seen two of them pop up but haven't pulled the trigger on actually using it yet.[/QUOTE]I tried Wanderwallet, and it works quite well. Only issue is topping up for me as I have to use my coinbase to add USDC as I'm European, but I heard if you're American you can just add cash from a bank card.
Question about MP.
How many on there are fake profiles would you guys say.
And how many ish are up to play for pay or is it just normal brasileiras looking for dates.
Found the subscription to be kind of expensive is it worth it at all?
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BTW you have several options for travel So Paulo to Rio and reverse.
Most expensive last minute plane reservations directly can be $400 to $700 USD one way, book with an airline consolidator for half the price.
Use BlaBla Car or one of the intercity Uber /99/ Car ride options. Drive time between Scandallo via Jabaquara station and Panda Motel in Botafoga is six hours.
Onibus the luxury bus is inexpensive option $100 brl to $180 brl, sleeper bed, you can leave Scandallo at night sleep on luxury bus arrive AM in Rio.
Rent a car, with US Passport & valid State drivers liscense & credit card you can rent a decent car, drive one way, then take flight or bus return, you can avoid airport tax by NOT renting at airports
Rent a car, with US Passport, valid State drivers liscense, credit card, add your favorite responsisble garota as a daily driver, get her ass to drive you, to Rio or to SP, she gets a free fucking trip, with benefit is the romantic sex spots to bang her along the way. Plenty of love motels enroute.
The roads are fairly decent.side note: if you can apply for e-visa you can apply for CPF number online, easy peasy as most of the paperwork you need is similar
Air trave by plane is fastest if you can book one month in advance. I have secured $75 USD round trip tickets. CGH to SDU or SDU to CGH or SDU to GIG month in advance, and choose the option to change the flight fare.
Many times doing a threeway in Dudas with a fresh newbie garota and a mature one, and changed flight on app to leave later at night cause the session was going great
Well. Back at home after an amazing trip to SP. Got to see the boys and hanging out with them was a blast as always. Lots of alcohol was consumed, some drugs were also consumed and girls were plentiful.
We hit up Scandello, Gauguin and Casarao.
Scandello was Scandello and we watched a few games there, drank and partied and really had a great time. Girls prices are around the same and the girls I took for overnight settled at R2 k and R1 k in house. I don't ask their price, I just tell them that is what I pay and see if they accept. Most do. One thing about the girls at Scandello. You don't have to negotiate all the little shit. One night I had one of the quickest negotiations ever. Called one over who I thought looked interesting and I told her I am ready to leave, offered her 2 k for overnight and said let's go. She said sure and we walked out right after. Back at the hotel, there was never a discussion about BBBJ or payment or how long she would stay. She stayed till the next morning and left after our second round.
We visited Gaugain (GG) on a Monday night and it was a flop and I doubt I will visit next time unless everyone in the group chooses to go. The girls were all quoting 3 k to leave and wouldn't budge so we all bailed to Casarao. A person in our group said that GG is like the middle child. Doesn't know what its place is. Casarao hits the lower more accessible level and Scandello is the elite level. GG wants to play with Scandello but can't and the pricing places it out of the lower more accessible level. This has been my experience the past few times I have been there and I am sure others might have better experiences.
Went once to Casarao after being at GG on a Monday night and I made a deal with a girl to leave for R1200 for BBBJ and anal included and the sticky part was the payment. I told her half up front and half when she leaves. She agreed but it didn't sit well with her and she just bailed. No issues. There is always more fish in the sea. Did end up with an awesome looking dupla for R1500 each BBFS and they stayed the night with payment at the end. Repeated with them again later in the week over a dinner date and fun time back in the room.
New restaurants I tried.
Cabana Burger — really good burger and fries.
Oizumi sushi — dry aged omakase. Was good but it smells like a fish market inside due to the dry ager.
Simone — the lights went out and they couldn't serve food so I guess I might have to try it another time.
212 burger — great thin crispy onion rings and burger was also good.
Changed money at Seattle tourism but I have read that it is now closed so looks like I will have to find another place.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3074867]Well. Back at home after an amazing trip to SP. Got to see the boys and hanging out with them was a blast as always. Lots of alcohol was consumed, some drugs were also consumed and girls were plentiful.
We hit up Scandello, Gauguin and Casarao.
Scandello was Scandello and we watched a few games there, drank and partied and really had a great time. Girls prices are around the same and the girls I took for overnight settled at R2 k and R1 k in house. I don't ask their price, I just tell them that is what I pay and see if they accept. Most do. One thing about the girls at Scandello. You don't have to negotiate all the little shit. One night I had one of the quickest negotiations ever. Called one over who I thought looked interesting and I told her I am ready to leave, offered her 2 k for overnight and said let's go. She said sure and we walked out right after. Back at the hotel, there was never a discussion about BBBJ or payment or how long she would stay. She stayed till the next morning and left after our second round..
Changed money at Seattle tourism but I have read that it is now closed so looks like I will have to find another place.[/QUOTE]I share your method on pricing. I just tell them what I'll pay and they usually say OK. No negotiating. Most recent visit I did three garotas in Scandallo, all in-house. 1200 R first two and the third 1,000 R. If I had more time in SP, I would have continued with 1,000 R.
[QUOTE=Combo;3074882]I share your method on pricing. I just tell them what I'll pay and they usually say OK. No negotiating. Most recent visit I did three garotas in Scandallo, all in-house. 1200 R first two and the third 1,000 R. If I had more time in SP, I would have continued with 1,000 R.[/QUOTE]Were you getting anal with those prices? Or, maybe you aren't into anal?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3074891]Were you getting anal with those prices? Or, maybe you aren't into anal?[/QUOTE]
No. Did one in the ass in Monte Carlo a few days earlier. Once a trip is enough for me.
I can't remember if this topic was discussed in this section or the section of another destination, so apologies if I'm making anyone repeat themselves. Does anyone know of a service in Sao Paulo that holds luggage for a fee? I'm interested in using it those time when I have a late night departure or early morning arrival and my airbnb is either not yet ready or I have to give it up hours before I leave. I know Scandallo does it but of course it's less expensive to rent an Airbnb for a couple of nights unless you are already committed to the Scandallo forumla. Thanks in advance.
I found what I was looking for in the [URL]bounce.com[/URL] web site and app. The price is about R20/ day for a roll aboard and a small bag or backpack. The catch is most places are only open until 6 PM or so. I think there are locations with later hours but they aren't as conveniently located. It seems like a good option for early arrivals or if you want to get in a clinica or prive run before you catch a late flight.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2985051]... I think if you take a lot it actually makes you hard but you feel less, which can majorly prolong climax....[/QUOTE]It's good only if the girl is in good shape and not lazy, having a girl who enjoys the fuck is a plus. For 1 pop it's ok, but the shorter the waiting time, the longer it's going to take to end. Over time I learn to deal with it, in my last trip in thailand, on the end of a 2 weeks trip, it was going into soapie and nuru only because the girls in there are mecanicaly repeating the same routine so even totally wasted you can do the starfish and let the 21 yo girl do her job. The best is to have the budget for a threesome, my last fuck of this trip was a threesome with 18-21-year-old girls who were looking like a newbie and an older one near 30 with definitely more experience. I was totally wasted after 2 weeks of sex, so I made the starfish for 2 hours. They nexted each other and liked a WWE tag team for the 2 hours to make me cum 2 time. I probably burned more calories than in a marathon even if I was lying on my back the whole time.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3074737]Question about MP.
How many on there are fake profiles would you guys say.
And how many ish are up to play for pay or is it just normal brasileiras looking for dates.
Found the subscription to be kind of expensive is it worth it at all?[/QUOTE]My honest opinion is that MP is not necessary in SP given the variety of options available. I did MP during my Feb trip and most recently in June and I decided not to renew. Fake profiles are few and I did not run into any. I just got tired of all the work involved when I could go to Scandello / GG / Casarao for whatever mood I was in. Setting up the date with the girls, and then they cancel. I have to pivot at the last minute. Just too much work. Plus, the girls also aren't as good at sex so it is a hit or miss.
Now I know some who will advocate for MP and that is cool. I just don't see the need for it.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3075026]I found what I was looking for in the [URL]bounce.com[/URL] web site and app. The price is about R20/ day for a roll aboard and a small bag or backpack. The catch is most places are only open until 6 PM or so. I think there are locations with later hours but they aren't as conveniently located. It seems like a good option for early arrivals or if you want to get in a clinica or prive run before you catch a late flight.[/QUOTE]I have used bounce in the past. There is hotel close to CGH that offers luggage storage service via bounce. If I remember right they are open until 11 pm.
Walking distance from CGH (less than a mile) if you don't have big heavy luggage.
What do you guys do for cash? Do you carry with you from home country or get it in SP directly. Guess easier for people who don't have to hide things, they can simply use credit card with whatever 1-2% markup is applied. Some people had mixed reports for ATM at CGH, I couldn't find any. Would love to know if anyone had a success. Home country currency notes conversion in India was 33% markup so didn't carry cash. I didn't want to put things on CC to hide from my wife, but with so much hassle in cash conversion I decided fuck it. Ended up using my credit card for everything including at scandallo and now just crossing my fingers that it's not get caught LOL.
Are there any better options for future?
[QUOTE=ZohanDude;3075074]What do you guys do for cash? Do you carry with you from home country or get it in SP directly. Guess easier for people who don't have to hide things, they can simply use credit card with whatever 1-2% markup is applied. Some people had mixed reports for ATM at CGH, I couldn't find any. Would love to know if anyone had a success. Home country currency notes conversion in India was 33% markup so didn't carry cash. I didn't want to put things on CC to hide from my wife, but with so much hassle in cash conversion I decided fuck it. Ended up using my credit card for everything including at scandallo and now just crossing my fingers that it's not get caught LOL.
Are there any better options for future?[/QUOTE]If yo need to send money use Wallbit app, no cash no risk for you and the girl. It's pretty straightforward. Just go to Send Money, pick Brazil, choose third-party account, enter the person's bank or Pix info, type in the amount, and hit send. Wallbit converts your USD to BRL and sends it through the Brazilian banking system.
The person receiving the money doesn't need a Wallbit account. As long as they have a Brazilian bank account that supports Pix which is basically all of them, they'll receive the money just like any other Pix transfer. So for all practical purposes, it's the same as sending a Pix payment, you just don't need to have a Brazilian bank account yourself.
[QUOTE=ZohanDude;3075074]What do you guys do for cash? Do you carry with you from home country or get it in SP directly. Guess easier for people who don't have to hide things, they can simply use credit card with whatever 1-2% markup is applied. Some people had mixed reports for ATM at CGH, I couldn't find any. Would love to know if anyone had a success. Home country currency notes conversion in India was 33% markup so didn't carry cash. I didn't want to put things on CC to hide from my wife, but with so much hassle in cash conversion I decided fuck it. Ended up using my credit card for everything including at scandallo and now just crossing my fingers that it's not get caught LOL.
Are there any better options for future?[/QUOTE]I always get most of my foreign cash ordered right at my home bank. For any currencies they don't have, a commercial foreign exchange business also back at my home region will usually have it available.
What is considered a correct budget for a night at the scandalo?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3075238]What is considered a correct budget for a night at the scandalo?[/QUOTE]What kind of question is that? The correct budget, regardless of the establishment, is that which you can truly afford. And nobody can tell you that. Only you know that about your finances. I mean, people will often demonstrate their arrogance by trying to tell other people what they can afford, but how can they really know that in most circumstances, especially in a place like this? Nobody tells me what I can and can't afford! I determine that on my own. And so should everyone else.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3075238]What is considered a correct budget for a night at the scandalo?[/QUOTE]To be fair his question surely wasn't "can I afford it". It was how much should I expect to pay. Here are some budgetary numbers. Don't flame me if they are off a few dollars this is from memory.
Entry 400-600 R (400 before 7).
Girl 1 hour 1000-1500 R.
Room 1 hour 400 R.
Drinks ymmv. The 400 consumable for entry will be sufficient to drink beer and not buy a bunch of rounds.
So at the low end I'the say you can have a great time and do one girl for around 2000R. Or $400 usd.
Or if you want to roll higher and buy a bottle and party with some girls and take two girls prob about double that. $800-900 USD.
You can also find s midpoint by doing one girl at Scan and then bop to Casarao. Can do that for $600-700 USD.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3075331]To be fair his question surely wasn't "can I afford it". It was how much should I expect to pay. Here are some budgetary numbers. Don't flame me if they are off a few dollars this is from memory.
Entry 400-600 R (400 before 7).
Girl 1 hour 1000-1500 R.
Room 1 hour 400 R.
Drinks ymmv. The 400 consumable for entry will be sufficient to drink beer and not buy a bunch of rounds.
So at the low end I'the say you can have a great time and do one girl for around 2000R. Or $400 usd.
Or if you want to roll higher and buy a bottle and party with some girls and take two girls prob about double that. $800-900 USD.
You can also find s midpoint by doing one girl at Scan and then bop to Casarao. Can do that for $600-700 USD.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. I hate how some people can aggressively react to posts that aren't trip reports or masturbation material love stories. I know the board is named 'trip report' but despite reading like 50 pages, I was barely able to figure out what budget I need. I will visit the place and I asked this to at least have a post on 100 who give an idea how much and what to expect.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3075331]To be fair his question surely wasn't "can I afford it". It was how much should I expect to pay. Here are some budgetary numbers. Don't flame me if they are off a few dollars this is from memory.
Entry 400-600 R (400 before 7).
Girl 1 hour 1000-1500 R.
Room 1 hour 400 R.
Drinks ymmv. The 400 consumable for entry will be sufficient to drink beer and not buy a bunch of rounds.
So at the low end I'the say you can have a great time and do one girl for around 2000R. Or $400 usd.
Or if you want to roll higher and buy a bottle and party with some girls and take two girls prob about double that. $800-900 USD.
You can also find s midpoint by doing one girl at Scan and then bop to Casarao. Can do that for $600-700 USD.[/QUOTE]In my mind, how much something costs and what your budget is are two different things. For a place like Scandallo, there's the going rate for things, or how much you can expect to pay. That has been discussed ad nauseam here, including in many, many recent posts. All one needs to do is RTFF to get that information. Now, one's budget is something that stands apart from what things cost. Your budget is how much money you set aside to pay for certain things. And that depends on what you can afford to allocate for this, that, and the other. That's how I see it, and why I say a budget for mongering is about what you can afford to set aside for play for pay. A budget isn't about what it costs. It's ultimately about what you can afford. So, once you know the costs, can you come up with the money (budget) to pay for it?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3075332]Thanks a lot. I hate how some people can aggressively react to posts that aren't trip reports or masturbation material love stories. I know the board is named 'trip report' but despite reading like 50 pages, I was barely able to figure out what budget I need. I will visit the place and I asked this to at least have a post on 100 who give an idea how much and what to expect.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]It always amazes me when people say they have read all these pages and can't find basic information that I know for a fact has been discussed in-depth, including in very recent reports. Next time try reading the Reports of Distinction, and you won't have to read 50 pages that you say provided no information about what you should expect to pay.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3075335]It always amazes me when people say they have read all these pages and can't find basic information that I know for a fact has been discussed in-depth, including in very recent reports. Next time try reading the Reports of Distinction, and you won't have to read 50 pages that you say provided no information about what you should expect to pay.[/QUOTE]My main confusion was to distinguish outcall vs incall. I read a lot of post who was talking about 1000-2000 to bring girls home for the night. I suppost its someking of BF price or something alike if the girls ask 1500 on place I doubt she whould agree a TLN for 2000.
My last trip I de need to go out with a bang and scheduled a 2 hour trisal with Karen and two girls of her choice at Clinica Prime. Amazing experience and one I'm glad I experienced. End of epic trip so was spent but they made it all work out. Fortunately got upgraded to united polar class on late night flight back to USA so slept like a happy baby.
Saw Amanda twice on my last trip. Really amazing service well documented on various forums. Hope to catch her again my next trip.
Had good threesome at Moab last trip on promotion mid-day. Was good experience at amazing price. Planning on repeating next trip if lineup allows.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3075398]My main confusion was to distinguish outcall vs incall. I read a lot of post who was talking about 1000-2000 to bring girls home for the night. I suppost its someking of BF price or something alike if the girls ask 1500 on place I doubt she whould agree a TLN for 2000.[/QUOTE]As was discussed, you can get a feel for take home pricing by reading the Reports of Distinction. It does come up in some reports.
As you might expect, once you start that discussion a few more variables enter into the negotiation. Even if she literally agrees to all night (tudo noite), she might want to leave after a couple hours. She might want to be compensated for an Uber. Also with going home with you, your appearance and personality will likely be in her thought process. If one is an older, creepy dude, it might not happen or the price will be high.
So with that, a take home girl from Scandallo is going to cost a lot. Casarao more reasonable. If you get lucky finding a nice clinica girl, you can try for a meet-up later. However, she might work days for a reason.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3075494]As was discussed, you can get a feel for take home pricing by reading the Reports of Distinction. It does come up in some reports.
As you might expect, once you start that discussion a few more variables enter into the negotiation. Even if she literally agrees to all night (tudo noite), she might want to leave after a couple hours. She might want to be compensated for an Uber. Also with going home with you, your appearance and personality will likely be in her thought process. If one is an older, creepy dude, it might not happen or the price will be high.
So with that, a take home girl from Scandallo is going to cost a lot. Casarao more reasonable. If you get lucky finding a nice clinica girl, you can try for a meet-up later. However, she might work days for a reason.[/QUOTE]I'd also add this it's better to first sample her short-time in the club. Until you do this, it's hard to have a solid idea of how she'll be when you spend several hours back at your place. For all you know, she might have a stinky pussy. Or once she's got you to commit to paying her a lot, she won't do what you agreed on back at your place.
I was out this Friday with some buddies I had met and they are new to this hobby. So while bar hoping around SP, we stumbled onto an area that is sketchy because one of the guys who wanted to be in a bar he was at but could not remember the name and location. We bounced around 3 x in Uber from one zona to another. We ended up at this boate called Forteleza. Its basically the lowest I have seen and the talent is far below the usual 3 as mentioned here. BUT, for those who want the cheapest than you can go here. 150 R for a half an hour. I'm sure you can negotiate down as this was the first offer from the girls there and my buddy didn't counter. I didn't partake because I was a litter under the weather and my type are usually at Scan, Casa, or GG. To compare, for those who have been to Chicago Club in Tijuana, this was about as close to the talent type if you are interested. To ADD, there are about 3 other clubs walking distance from Fortaleza. It reminded me of Tijuana zona.
Here is the address:
Are. Cunha Gago, 499 - Pinheiros, São Paulo. SP, 05421-001, Brazil.
1. Overnight vs Room in the Club.
I'm planning on going to Sau Paulo for first time in end of September.
I'm just curious besides the cost of the room and longer time with the girl is there any other advantage to bringing a girl back to your hotel??
I really don't want to hastle with bringing the girls to my hotel, etc. I usually can't have sex more than twice in one night and sometimes just once with an 8 or 9 or a 10. I like anal.
I plan to go to Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao only; Should I try anywhere else if I only want 8 or above? I'm ok spending up to $1000 dollars per night.
2. is this enough money: 1000 in Real in cash; $3500 in you. S dollars cash; I got my schwab debit that has $5000 you. S Dollars as needed; I will be in Sau Paulo about 6 days.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3075572]1. Overnight vs Room in the Club.
I'm planning on going to Sau Paulo for first time in end of September.
I'm just curious besides the cost of the room and longer time with the girl is there any other advantage to bringing a girl back to your hotel??
I really don't want to hastle with bringing the girls to my hotel, etc. I usually can't have sex more than twice in one night and sometimes just once with an 8 or 9 or a 10. I like anal.
I plan to go to Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao only; Should I try anywhere else if I only want 8 or above? I'm ok spending up to $1000 dollars per night.
2. is this enough money: 1000 in Real in cash; $3500 in you. S dollars cash; I got my schwab debit that has $5000 you. S Dollars as needed; I will be in Sau Paulo about 6 days.[/QUOTE]First $1000 USD per day is a nice high end budget. You will have a great time.
Guys who take overnight are usually looking to fuck at least two maybe three times. Overnight is typically 2 X their in house rate. So like a girl who is 1200 in house might ask 2500 overnight but will prob go for 2000 but ask you to pay her exit fee which ends up there anyhow.
That's prob TMI because hearing your situation I’d stick to in house. And if you feel horny again a few hours later take another girl. I think you will be surprised at the kissing and BJ skills of a brasileira. I will be surprised if you can't get off two shots spaced sufficiently apart.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3075575]First $1000 USD per day is a nice high end budget. You will have a great time.
Guys who take overnight are usually looking to fuck at least two maybe three times. Overnight is typically 2 X their in house rate. So like a girl who is 1200 in house might ask 2500 overnight but will prob go for 2000 but ask you to pay her exit fee which ends up there anyhow.
That's prob TMI because hearing your situation Id stick to in house. And if you feel horny again a few hours later take another girl. I think you will be surprised at the kissing and BJ skills of a brasileira. I will be surprised if you can't get off two shots spaced sufficiently apart.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention that Casarao needs special consideration. The rooms are pretty darn shitty. The new ones down the hall are OK but the upstairs ones are run down with mold in the shower etc. Of course for $18 what do you expect.
Additionally takeout there is cheap. Can def take a hottie for 1000 R overnight so the comfort of your hotel room and the price makes takeout from casarao more appealing.
Can anyone recommend a trustworthy jewelry store in SP? I want to bring back a special souvenir for someone I care about. Ideally a piece featuring Brazilian gemstones such as Imperial topaz, Paraba tourmaline or emeralds.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3075201]I always get most of my foreign cash ordered right at my home bank. For any currencies they don't have, a commercial foreign exchange business also back at my home region will usually have it available.[/QUOTE]This is an expensive option. At least, it is in the USA.
Most experienced members recommend an ATM card with a financial services firm that allows a certain amount of withdrawals every month anywhere in the world. A Schwab ATM card gets mentioned often for this purpose. Schwab's interchange system gives a good rate of exchange.
This is redundant for most members, but when the Brazilian ATM machine asks if you want Reais to be charged or Reais converted into your local currency always opt for strictly Reais. The ATM system will hammer you on the conversion rate.
There are also guys who like to deal with cash. They generally find foreign exchange stores in Sao Paulo that often decent rates. However, it does pay to follow where members are going to exchange cash.
Hi all. Been reading this SP forum for a while and recently officially started a membership. Great insight and discussion which was useful for my first visit a few weeks back, albeit was only a passing trip. Still managed 2 great nights in Scandello though.
I'm in SP from 27 Jul to 02 Aug, and looking to venture out to Casareo and GG this time as well. If anyone is around those dates then drop me a note. Happy share further details there.
[QUOTE=Azzazelo;3075687]Can anyone recommend a trustworthy jewelry store in SP? I want to bring back a special souvenir for someone I care about. Ideally a piece featuring Brazilian gemstones such as Imperial topaz, Paraba tourmaline or emeralds.[/QUOTE]HStern: [URL]https://www.hstern.com.br/[/URL]
R. Oscar Freire, 652 - Jardim Paulista, São Paulo. SP, 01426-000, Brazil.
[QUOTE=Questner;3075753]HStern: [URL]https://www.hstern.com.br/[/URL]
R. Oscar Freire, 652 - Jardim Paulista, So Paulo. SP, 01426-000, Brazil.[/QUOTE]Ahh yes, H. Stern the ubiquitous Brazilian jeweler.
They have some beautiful colored gemstone designs.
[QUOTE=ZohanDude;3075074]What do you guys do for cash? Do you carry with you from home country or get it in SP directly. Guess easier for people who don't have to hide things, they can simply use credit card with whatever 1-2% markup is applied. Some people had mixed reports for ATM at CGH, I couldn't find any. Would love to know if anyone had a success. Home country currency notes conversion in India was 33% markup so didn't carry cash. I didn't want to put things on CC to hide from my wife, but with so much hassle in cash conversion I decided fuck it. Ended up using my credit card for everything including at scandallo and now just crossing my fingers that it's not get caught LOL.
Are there any better options for future?[/QUOTE]This app look promising: [URL]https://wise.com[/URL] but I didn't tested it in SP yet.
You transfer money on it and you can use it with the Brasilian ATM. There is a virtual and a physical card, both are free when you create an account. The change rate is the one one on the market at the moment of the transaction. You can use it to pay from your cell phone if you put it in your ewallet as a payment method.
Currently Wise pays 5. 075 for a dollar, and on the market I see it as 5. 08. There are some fees, but I've done the math, and even with fees on the transfer and at the ATM, the change rate makes it a lot better option than changing the money in a casa de cambio or with my regular ATM card. You can also secure the app from the website in case someone snatch your cellphone. Its also less dangerous than flashing all your money in public.
[URL]https://wise.com/gb/currency-converter/usd-to-brl-rate?amount=1[/URL]
Has anyone tested this app in SP?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3075827]This app look promising: [URL]https://wise.com[/URL] but I didn't tested it in SP yet.
You transfer money on it and you can use it with the Brasilian ATM. There is a virtual and a physical card, both are free when you create an account. The change rate is the one one on the market at the moment of the transaction. You can use it to pay from your cell phone if you put it in your ewallet as a payment method.
Currently Wise pays 5. 075 for a dollar, and on the market I see it as 5. 08. There are some fees, but I've done the math, and even with fees on the transfer and at the ATM, the change rate makes it a lot better option than changing the money in a casa de cambio or with my regular ATM card. You can also secure the app from the website in case someone snatch your cellphone. Its also less dangerous than flashing all your money in public.
[URL]https://wise.com/gb/currency-converter/usd-to-brl-rate?amount=1[/URL]
Has anyone tested this app in SP?[/QUOTE]I don't have a card and haven't used ATM feature but if you want to send money worldwide it's TOPs. In like 5 seconds it will send your money to your girl or whomever. Very very low fees and market exchange rate. Truly amazing. High recommend on that feature.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3075827]This app look promising: [URL]https://wise.com[/URL] but I didn't tested it in SP yet.[/QUOTE]From the site:
1. 95 USD + 1. 95% fee applies to each ATM withdrawal after you reach 250 USD in a calendar month.
ATM operators may charge their own fees.
Hi Everyone,
I am travelling to SP in August 2nd week and looking to stay in Hotel Allure, Moema. Do anyone have information whether this hotel is girl friendly or not. Can I bring girls back to rooms?
Thanks.
1. at Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao do you pay the girls after sex? Do you ever pay the before?
2. is about 1500 reals reasonable for anal? For 2000 Rls.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076020]1. at Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao do you pay the girls after sex? Do you ever pay the before?
2. is about 1500 reals reasonable for anal? For 2000 Rls.[/QUOTE]1) Rule # 1 — NEVER EVER PAY BEFORE at these places. The girls will ask especially if they know you are a gringo. Make sure you are clear on this before you got to the room.
2) Yes and yes. Ask the girl. Some will include it in the service, some won't. Some will charge more and some just don't do anal. Again, discuss before going to the room.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3076021]1) Rule # 1 NEVER EVER PAY BEFORE at these places. The girls will ask especially if they know you are a gringo. Make sure you are clear on this before you got to the room.
2) Yes and yes. Ask the girl. Some will include it in the service, some won't. Some will charge more and some just don't do anal. Again, discuss before going to the room.[/QUOTE]So for take outs in these places you also pay them afterwards. ? I got curated by a Casarao working girl she left very early for a toda la noite.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3076021]1) Rule # 1 NEVER EVER PAY BEFORE at these places. The girls will ask especially if they know you are a gringo. Make sure you are clear on this before you got to the room.
2) Yes and yes. Ask the girl. Some will include it in the service, some won't. Some will charge more and some just don't do anal. Again, discuss before going to the room.[/QUOTE]My experience in the São Paulo boîtes has been that the girls usually want more to do anal. But in the termas in Rio, the girls either do it or don't. Never a request for more/propina. Not sure why the difference.
[QUOTE=Combo;3076037]My experience in the So Paulo botes has been that the girls usually want more to do anal. But in the termas in Rio, the girls either do it or don't. Never a request for more/propina. Not sure why the difference.[/QUOTE]It is because termas are fixed price venues vs boetes where girls set their own prices.
Terma Solarium for example strictly enforces (based on what I was told) requests for any tips (extra money) over the fixed service cost and as a result I never had any girls ask for extra money. All the services a girl agrees there is part of the fixed price. I never had request for extra money for anal at Terma 4 x4 until my last trip a couple of years ago. I guess some gringos must have started paying them, so naturally girls have started throwing such requests at lots of gringos, if not all gringos.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3076021]1) Rule # 1 NEVER EVER PAY BEFORE at these places. The girls will ask especially if they know you are a gringo. Make sure you are clear on this before you got to the room.
2) Yes and yes. Ask the girl. Some will include it in the service, some won't. Some will charge more and some just don't do anal. Again, discuss before going to the room.[/QUOTE]These are my top 2 rules too.
#1 discourages girls getting ideas of leaving early or leave doing nothing. Most girls do what was agreed, but some try to do as less as possible if you prepay.
I have cancelled multiple deals at Casarao after existing the club and before getting into Uber because girls insisted on prepayment even though they agreed to get the payment after. I did the same at Scandallo during checkout.
#2 is my approach, but some guys believe in chemistry and their ability to charm a hooker to deliver all they desire without explicit talk about their service expectations. I guess both approaches have their pros and cons.
All bets are off if you catch a real scammer, unfortunately. There is much less chance of picking up total scammer at high-end places like Scandallo because girls are not stupid enough to jeopardize the high earnings, but the changes increase as you go down to lower end places.
Is it safe for me to pay the girls with a schwab debit card at Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao or other places?
Or should I take cash in Reals with me?
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076070]Is it safe for me to pay the girls with a schwab debit card at Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao or other places?
Or should I take cash in Reals with me?[/QUOTE]I say take & use Reals (cash) and CC as backup.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076070]Is it safe for me to pay the girls with a schwab debit card at Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao or other places?
Or should I take cash in Reals with me?[/QUOTE]For personal reasons I prefer to pay the garota using credit card. Not debit. Most bros do cash which is great an anonymous. I do carry a debit card that reimburses ATM fees, but I only use it as a backup.
At Scandallo and Gauguin, I've been able to pay the club by credit card for both the room and the garota. The club pays the garota on my behalf. At Gauguin, I was told they usually pay the girls a day or two later after they fill out some paperwork. 😂.
Both clubs charge a pretty generous fee for the privilege of using a credit card, but the upside is that my international credit cards have almost always gone through without any issues.
If you want to pay the garota directly by card, it can work if she (or a friend) has Mercado Pago, InfinitePay, [URL]JIM.com[/URL] Tap to Pay, or can send you a Mercado Pago payment link. I always take a photo of the successful payment screen and ask her to send me a screenshot from her side as well. It avoids any confusion later.
Before the session, I'm always upfront that I'll be paying by credit card so we can figure out the best payment method ahead of time.
Casarão has been much less reliable. Recently, Tap to Pay on the garota's phone has worked about 60% of the time. The other 40%, none of my cards would process and I had to fall back to cash. I suspect the internet / data connection inside Casarão is part of the problem.
Ironically, I've paid Casarão itself by credit card with no issues when checking out and returning the wristband. Then I walk next door to the hotel to pay the garota with the exact same card, and suddenly it won't work. It's frustrating. I've suggested management have two or three different payment processors available for international credit cards instead of relying on a single system.
One thing to be aware of: your credit card statement will usually show whatever business name the garota uses with [URL]JIM.com[/URL] or her payment processor. It might be her name, a beauty salon, or some other small business. I once saw what looked like an automotive repair business on my statement and thought my card had been compromised. Turns out it was just the payment processor she was using. That definitely got my attention.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3076168]For personal reasons I prefer to pay the garota using credit card. Not debit. Most bros do cash which is great an anonymous. I do carry a debit card that reimburses ATM fees, but I only use it as a backup.
At Scandallo and Gauguin, I've been able to pay the club by credit card for both the room and the garota. The club pays the garota on my behalf. At Gauguin, I was told they usually pay the girls a day or two later after they fill out some paperwork. 😂.[/QUOTE]I guess for all you guys who are big fans of Scandallo and Gauguin, paying by credit card will most certainly help you rack up those airline points (if you credit cards earn them).
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3076173]I guess for all you guys who are big fans of Scandallo and Gauguin, paying by credit card will most certainly help you rack up those airline points (if you credit cards earn them).[/QUOTE]Tochka is the only poster here who I can recall preferring to pay by credit card. The overwhelming majority of us prefer to pay with cash. It's less expensive to pay with cash due to no extra fees. In addition, the girls most definitely like to be paid with cash because they get their money right then and there. Tricking and hooring has always been mostly a "cash and carry" business, and that won't be changing anytime soon. I have plenty of other ways to earn big points and miles from credit card expenditures, including times 4 for hotel stays and times 3 for restaurant meals. Paying tutes on credit would only get me one point per dollar spent plus add on the fees per transaction. Not the best way to earn points and miles LOL!
Whats the best way to get from the airport to the hotel in Paulista ave? Uber or Taxi.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076270]Whats the best way to get from the airport to the hotel in Paulista ave? Uber or Taxi.[/QUOTE]I take a taxi FROM the airport and I take an Uber TO the airport. I find that combination to be the quickest and easiest.
[URL]https://mapagp.com/[/URL]
The most complete map of SP places with prices, websites, discounts, even links to uber! Basically gpguia in map form. Focused mostly on clinicas but has boates also. It's built for the locals. Some prices are out of date IE Scandallo. Not sure this is a good thing, makes it too easy.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076270]Whats the best way to get from the airport to the hotel in Paulista ave? Uber or Taxi.[/QUOTE]Depends on what you mean by 'best'. I chose to use the train that connects the airport right to the SP Metro system without any extra fare charges since it's all part of the same transit system so it's dirt cheap. I didn't want the potential of being stuck in traffic.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076270]Whats the best way to get frommthe airport to the hotel in Paulista ave? Uber or Taxi.[/QUOTE]Either way works for me, but on my last arrival from MIA, my cell phone wasn't cooperating yet because T-Mobil international hadn't kicked in yet, so I thought fuck that, and I walked over to the taxi booth operating a few feet away. Then on the ride into town, I could not help but notice how professional my lady cab driver was. So, the whole experience was an easy, fast connection, combined with a chauffeur-like drive. Welcome to SP.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3076055]Terma Solarium for example strictly enforces (based on what I was told) requests for any tips (extra money) over the fixed service cost and as a result I never had any girls ask for extra money. All the services a girl agrees there is part of the fixed price. I never had request for extra money for anal at Terma 4 x4 until my last trip a couple of years ago. I guess some gringos must have started paying them, so naturally girls have started throwing such requests at lots of gringos, if not all gringos.[/QUOTE]Two days ago a girl in Solarium asked for tips. She was new, however, like her first day there.
Two other girls did not ask.
One week ago another, experienced one quoted +300 rs for anal.
Same applies for our most sensitive topic CBJ vs BBBJ. 11 pm I have garota devouring my 12 cm Mace of Destruction raw in Solarium. 2 am another spinner tells me "sorry, it is a house roule for CBJ" in Centaurus.
My fight to SP takes off in 10 minutes. Will post a report.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3076319]Either way works for me, but on my last arrival from MIA, my cell phone wasn't cooperating yet because T-Mobil international hadn't kicked in yet, so I thought fuck that, and I walked over to the taxi booth operating a few feet away. Then on the ride into town, I could not help but notice how professional my lady cab driver was. So, the whole experience was an easy, fast connection, combined with a chauffeur-like drive. Welcome to SP.[/QUOTE]How much are they asking to go in jardin on paulista ave?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3076367]How much are they asking to go in jardin on paulista ave?[/QUOTE]GUARUCOOP TAXIS charged my Capital One CC $54.34 USA For the ride from GRU terminal 3 to the Hyatt which is a longer ride than to Jardin / Paulista. It took about an hour in steady rain starting around 6:30 am. The Hyatt welcomed me back with flying colors. They gave me an upgraded King room on a high floor for my immediate access.
I've only ever used uber, 99 (didi's Brazil affiliate), and indrive for GRU airport transfers to Moema. I usually arrive at the morning rush hour so the ride lasts 90 minutes or more. Uber charges US $20 to US $25,99 charges US $15 to US $20. Indrive is the cheapest at US $7 to US $10. I had no idea the taxis cost that much. I'm going to continue to avoid them.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3076372]GUARUCOOP TAXIS charged my Capital One CC $54.34 USA For the ride from GRU terminal 3 to the Hyatt which is a longer ride than to Jardin / Paulista. It took about an hour in steady rain starting around 6:30 am. The Hyatt welcomed me back with flying colors. They gave me an upgraded King room on a high floor for my immediate access.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3076295][URL]https://mapagp.com/[/URL]
The most complete map of SP places with prices, websites, discounts, even links to uber! Basically gpguia in map form. Focused mostly on clinicas but has boates also. It's built for the locals. Some prices are out of date IE Scandallo. Not sure this is a good thing, makes it too easy.[/QUOTE]This is really great.
I plan to arrive September 26 on Saturday 8 AM morning and stay till the next Saturday afternoon (7 nights).
Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao.
I also might hit some high end Clinicas? Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076404]I plan to arrive September 26 on Saturday 8 AM morning and stay till the next Saturday afternoon (7 nights).
Which days are best to go to Scandallo, Gauguin, & Casarao.
I also might hit some high end Clinicas? Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Sunday is the best.
Landed in CGH at 11:30. Too early to check-in in hotel, but just in time to hit clinicas. Walked to Moema district where all clinicas are. Moema Prime offered 4 garotas on kamaww, but only one was available, Gabi, branca loira with nice but 30+yo face and hips too wide to my taste.
Next was Moema Spa, the one with "a pig in a poke" system, where you choose garota by photos on tablet. On tablet screen were available: one trans-garota, one nice looking loira Livia, two fatties and another nice looking tall branca Perola. Did not see lineup on person.
The price is 600 for 1 hour, massage and sex included, but only one pop. Extra pop costs more. Chose Livia. They said I can change her to Perola if I don't like. Waited for her to show up around 5 minutes in a nice room with low bed, zen ambience and shower. Well. . .
Her pros:
- tall, fit branca loira, rate her body 8.
- very nice firm silky natural bee-plus cups, like 8-9.
- fit accurate well shaped ass.
- nice professional attitude.
- does cuzinha.
- all natural, including loira hair.
- good massage, but nothing professional. Rate 7.
- very good sex, like I enjoyed, very comfortable and tight action. Rate 9.
Cons:
- if you are a fan of original SW trilogy -- go now, there is literally Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) available to fvck for 600 reais! I am a "face" guy and photos promised another type of face and slightly another type of body. Although her real body is really up to 8, I was somehow disappointed.
- yes, yes, only CBJ.
- she quoted +500 rs for anal, I refused, she continued to negotiate while fucking, agreed to +250 rs. Not penetrating that cuzinha rosada would be a crime.
- she can be 30 yo, very good looking, but 30 yo.
- very deep voice.
If it was 300 for house, and / or she was younger, and / or 2 pops and anal included (I describe my experience in Abbobora 4 years ago), I would be happy. Now I am picky and spoiled and not 100% satisfied.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3076422]Landed in CGH at 11:30. Too early to check-in in hotel, but just in time to hit clinicas. Walked to Moema district where all clinicas are. Moema Prime offered 4 garotas on kamaww, but only one was available, Gabi, branca loira with nice but 30+yo face and hips too wide to my taste.
Next was Moema Spa, the one with "a pig in a poke" system, where you choose garota by photos on tablet. On tablet screen were available: one trans-garota, one nice looking loira Livia, two fatties and another nice looking tall branca Perola. Did not see lineup on person.
The price is 600 for 1 hour, massage and sex included, but only one pop. Extra pop costs more. Chose Livia. They said I can change her to Perola if I don't like. Waited for her to show up around 5 minutes in a nice room with low bed, zen ambience and shower. Well. . .
Her pros:
- tall, fit branca loira, rate her body 8.
Are these pictures accurate on their website
https://moemaspa.com.br/terapeutas/
- very nice firm silky natural bee-plus cups, like 8-9.
- fit accurate well shaped ass.
- nice professional attitude.
- does cuzinha.
- all natural, including loira hair.
- good massage, but nothing professional. Rate 7.
- very good sex, like I enjoyed, very comfortable and tight action. Rate 9.
Cons:
- if you are a fan of original SW trilogy -- go now, there is literally Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) available to fvck for 600 reais! I am a "face" guy and photos promised another type of face and slightly another type of body. Although her real body is really up to 8, I was somehow disappointed.
- yes, yes, only CBJ.
- she quoted +500 rs for anal, I refused, she continued to negotiate while fucking, agreed to +250 rs. Not penetrating that cuzinha rosada would be a crime.
- she can be 30 yo, very good looking, but 30 yo.
- very deep voice.
If it was 300 for house, and / or she was younger, and / or 2 pops and anal included (I describe my experience in Abbobora 4 years ago), I would be happy. Now I am picky and spoiled and not 100% satisfied.[/QUOTE]Are these pictures accurate in their website? The girl look good.
[URL]https://moemaspa.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076443]Are these pictures accurate in their website? The girl look good.
[URL]https://moemaspa.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL, she is Bella on website, yes. Now I understand why she was like "Ola, I am Bella. . . Emmm. . . Livia, emmm, sorry I mixxed names". Yes, it is her, her tattoos and face.
For some reason IRL she has better body, more slim. And (to my taste) more simplier Carrie Fisher. Like face.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3076295][URL]https://mapagp.com/[/URL]
The most complete map of SP places with prices, websites, discounts, even links to uber! Basically gpguia in map form. Focused mostly on clinicas but has boates also. It's built for the locals. Some prices are out of date IE Scandallo. Not sure this is a good thing, makes it too easy.[/QUOTE]This is great map. I have a trip planned for next month. Very useful for me.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3076451]LOL, she is Bella on website, yes. Now I understand why she was like "Ola, I am Bella. . . Emmm. . . Livia, emmm, sorry I mixxed names". Yes, it is her, her tattoos and face.
For some reason IRL she has better body, more slim. And (to my taste) more simplier Carrie Fisher. Like face.[/QUOTE]I'm curious, I have never been to Scandallo before; are the women at Scandallo as pretty as the girls on this website?
I'm going Sao Paulo September.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076526]I'm curious, I have never been to Scandallo before; are the women at Scandallo as pretty as the girls on this website? I'm going Sao Paulo September.[/QUOTE][B]Yes[/B]! The attached photos are examples of the kind of girls you can find at Scandallo (and other top clubs), not only in Sao Paulo, but also in Rio and other cities like Porto Alegre, Curitiba, and Florianopolis (all in southern Brazil). The reason why Scandallo gets top billing is because it's the biggest and the baddest puta palace on the planet! So, it offers the most choice. Now, these are all real girls I met in Brazil. The blondes and the redhead I fucked in the ass. The brunette was up for being "analized" too, but I declined her offer on that night. I wish I had a pic of the big booty blonde I fucked as Casarao. No anal but oh my goodness! Even Steve would have to shout at that LOLOLOL! If this is what you like, especially for anal, then Brazil is the real McCoy. The real deal Holyfield! Seek and you shall find those plump, round Brasiliera branca behinds! LMAO!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3064409]Original Review and Posted by Tochka*.
There are always love motels. True words have been spoken.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).
Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).
Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).
Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.
Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).
Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).
In Rio.
Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).
There are always Love Motel 2.
Motel Motor Inn.
Deslumbre Motor Inn motel.
Av. Atlntica, 3621 - Interlagos, So Paulo. SP.
(far from Scandallo, 30 min Uber from Moema, it is easier to meet the "live far away" Garota at this spot, some live fuvking one or two hours away. Nothing special, it is located by the water, suites are fine nothing to get excited about. Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, slow service, basic rooms, blue tooth doesn't work. Best to order iFood, poorly trained receptionist are too damn slow).
Motel My Flowers.
Avenida doutor Ricardo Jafet 1188 (suites with small to medium size pool, suitable for threesome, tight for foursome, just ok place, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, below average service).
Motel LE Nid.
Av. Washington Lus, 1003 - Chcara Flora, So Paulo.
It 10 min from Secrets Motel, 25 from Moema, 35 min Scandallo, nothing stands out.
Location is easier to meet the "live far away"garota daytime the ones that live one or two hours away. Nothing special, suites are fine nothing to get excited about. Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, average service.
I don't remember a lot.
Motel Asturias. Av. Das Naes Unidas, 7715 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP.
(went there it is an decent place Motel Asturia has a heated pool we stayed for threesome and added on more garota . good suites not large , smaller size though . marola friendly, solid spot, downside is stupid entrance is on busy street .the food was so-so . bluetooth speakers to bang out tunes while banging out garotas. recomend as decent place. try exotic rooms if avail.
Intense Motel Rua Arnaldo Magniccaro, 489 - Interlagos, So Paulo. SP, (suites with small to medium size Jazcuzxi suitable for a threesome, decent ok place, Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, good to average service, another spot to for afternoon rendezvous with live far away garotas.).
Crush Motel. So Paulo So Paulo.
Av. Dr. Ricardo Jafet, 1862 - Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP.
(5 min Uber from Scandallos, the exterior is lit up like Christmas, inside the rooms stuff doesn't work, the service stinks, and the price is expensive due to being near Scandallo.
The suites are suitable very tight for a threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, slow ass, and dumb service).
Prestige Motel So Paulo Prestige Motel So Paulo. Av. Dr. Ricardo Jafet, 1166.
(5 min Uber from Scandallo went there with three 3 scandals garotas, they liked the place, the higher-end suites are better, jacuzzi, pool, small romantic, erotic chocolates throughout the room, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for foursome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, solid good service).
In the love motels, they have sex toys, creams, lotions, and fun stuff, I let the garottes fantasies go wild!! Let them order sexy lingerie, and kinky stripper gstrings on the menu to boost to the level of Brazilian wild ass IoP. Favorite item is three packs of garganta profunda throat spray. Easier for a pair of young 20-year-old newbie brancas to compete in deep throat contests, swallowing down to the balls in lickable cherry, strawberry, mint, or chiclet flavors. No gagging either. Kkk.
Uber remembers all these fvcking addresses in Uber cache and brings them up at the most inappropriate times or sends stupid message "hey you went to Secrets motel 1 am yesterday, there are five Uber drivers nearby ready to take you to Secrets motel again in five minutes. ".
I found the motel guide hard to navigate.
Go. [URL]guiademoteis.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]What is the advantage of renting a love hotel instead of bringing the girls to my hotel? For rbnb I supose its for the security issue, but if I book in a girls-friendly hotel, what would be the must-see to go to a love hotel instead of my room?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3076555]What is the advantage of renting a love hotel instead of bringing the girls to my hotel? For rbnb I supose its for the security issue, but if I book in a girls-friendly hotel, what would be the must-see to go to a love hotel instead of my room?[/QUOTE]Tochka explains in great detail where and why you would rent certain love hotels.
Like most things, there's nothing "must-see" about a love hotel.
I have friends who only want to hook-up on-site.
I have others who want to bring them back to their room.
Love hotels are just another option sometimes with interesting amenities.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3076555]What is the advantage of renting a love hotel instead of bringing the girls to my hotel? For rbnb I supose its for the security issue, but if I book in a girls-friendly hotel, what would be the must-see to go to a love hotel instead of my room?[/QUOTE]What's your exit plan?
As I've said before, most guys spend more time figuring out how to get a garota into their hotel or Airbnb than they do figuring out how to get her out.
I picked up a hottie, we agreed on the termsboth verbally and over WhatsAppand everything seemed good.
I went back to my nice hotel. Or snuck her into my Airbnb. An hour or two later. Boom. Her personality changed. Suddenly she wanted to leave early. Then she wanted more money. I've had girls smoke in my hotel bathroom, leaving me with a $250 USD cleaning fee at checkout. I've had one run into the hallway crying where everything was on security cameras. I've had enough things go sideways with unvetted garotas that I don't put myself in those situations anymore.
I've also caught girls from whiskerias and some of the lower-end termas trying to go through my pants pockets while I was distracted. None of this is hypothetical. It's happened to me in the Dominican Republic, Panama, and Brazil. If you don't speak Brazilian Portugueseor understand the slangyou've got another layer of headaches.
That's why, when I'm seeing someone new, I usually vet her on-site or keep the party going at Scandallo or Gauguin before heading to a love motel like Lush, Colonial, Crush, or Panda in Rio. We drink, smoke, have another drink, swim, order food, relax, jacuzzi, heated pool, large showers for threesomes and enjoy multiple sessions over several hours and breakfast in bed next day. Swing motel, Crush, Panda motel in Rio, we drink smoke, drink again, marola with ice, swim, party, order food, more sessions, sex dresses with wild fantasies the garotas love, sex toys, whips, chains, blowjob masks, double vibrators, deep throat sprays, lesbian sex toys, whatever fucking fantasy sex swings you want to try is available in love motels.
None of the garotas can leave until reception verifies I am alive to pay. Kkk.
One thing I really like about love motels is that the garota can't simply walk out without reception confirming I'm okay and available to settle the bill. The staff deals with jealous spouses, arguments, disagreements, and drama all the time. That gives me a lot more peace of mind vetting first time garota. Someone I barely know back to my hotel or Airbnb.
I'm not telling anyone what to do.plenty guys bring garotas to girl friendly hotels & airbnb all the time. i have done it too.. I'm just sharing what I've experienced over the years with unvetted brasilian garotas become Unfriendly.. Everyone has to decide their own comfort level. My point is simple: have an exit plan to deal with a lying cheating garota is in your place, ready to cause a mess. just think ahead about garota exit plan.
i had major disagreement with garota at Lumnina spa in moema. my plan to deal with garotas in Moemas spas & clinica worked well.. today there was client garota LOUD disagreement in Miruna.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3076583]when I'm seeing someone new, I usually vet her on-site or keep the party going at Scandallo or Gauguin before heading to a love motel like Lush, Colonial, Crush, or Panda in Rio. We drink, smoke, have another drink, swim, order food, relax, jacuzzi, heated pool, large showers for threesomes and enjoy multiple sessions over several hours and breakfast in bed next day. Swing motel, Crush, Panda motel in Rio, we drink smoke, drink again, marola with ice, swim, party, order food, more sessions, sex dresses with wild fantasies the garotas love, sex toys, whips, chains, blowjob masks, double vibrators, deep throat sprays, lesbian sex toys, whatever fucking fantasy sex swings you want to try is available in love motels. [/QUOTE]Hey Tochka, 2 thumbs up for your contributions to the forum. I find your posts interesting, well written and they sometimes cover places and situations I never find myself in when I visit Brazil.
Takeout in SP, for example, is simple and easy for me. I never ask a boate girl back to my place until we have done it at least 1 time, usually 2 or 3 times in-house. It's not that I am worried about her, I have had plenty of experience taking BKK, Pat, & Makati Go Go girls, Phnom Penh hostess bar girls and Jakarta nightclub FL's back to my hotel. But as far as SP Boates are concerned: I usually want to make a night out of it in the club and I don't want to leave. (My only exception is Casarao because I had a real bad experience with a filthy adjacent hotel room, and I will never use that hotel again.) Anyway, I only make LT arrangements with my favorite repeat girls whom I know and trust and actually want to spend more than 90 minutes with. KKK. But, once in a blue moon, I will bring up the idea of a love motel with one of my favorites just to add a little pizzazz and something new to our routine and I have found that my girls know all about these hotels and they are into them. So yeah, love motel are fun places to go with the right girls. KKK.
I have an upcoming reservation at the Gran Estanplaza Berrini (balcony room) across the street from Gauguin for 5 nights during my next 6 week visit and I am sure I will wander over there at some point, but before I go over there, I will make my room "girl safe" and I do not expect any problems. In the rare, off chance that there is a problem, believe me, I know how to handle it. KKK.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3076533][B]Yes[/B]! The attached photos are examples of the kind of girls you can find at Scandallo (and other top clubs), not only in Sao Paulo, but also in Rio and other cities like Porto Alegre, Curitiba, and Florianopolis (all in southern Brazil). The reason why Scandallo gets top billing is because it's the biggest and the baddest puta palace on the planet! So, it offers the most choice. Now, these are all real girls I met in Brazil. The blondes and the redhead I fucked in the ass. The brunette was up for being "analized" too, but I declined her offer on that night. I wish I had a pic of the big booty blonde I fucked as Casarao. No anal but oh my goodness! Even Steve would have to shout at that LOLOLOL! If this is what you like, especially for anal, then Brazil is the real McCoy. The real deal Holyfield! Seek and you shall find those plump, round Brasiliera branca behinds! LMAO![/QUOTE]Wow. Right now I have $4000 dollars cash; $7500 dollars on my schwab debit; 5000 Reals cash. I hope that will be enough or I have to put it on the card. LOL.
I like that selection. All anal baby. I got the PrEP medication as well to prevent any viral illness.
When I went to Sharks I only could do couple of girls anal.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3076533][B]Yes[/B]! The attached photos are examples of the kind of girls you can find at Scandallo (and other top clubs), not only in Sao Paulo, but also in Rio and other cities like Porto Alegre, Curitiba, and Florianopolis (all in southern Brazil). The reason why Scandallo gets top billing is because it's the biggest and the baddest puta palace on the planet! So, it offers the most choice. Now, these are all real girls I met in Brazil. The blondes and the redhead I fucked in the ass. The brunette was up for being "analized" too, but I declined her offer on that night. I wish I had a pic of the big booty blonde I fucked as Casarao. No anal but oh my goodness! Even Steve would have to shout at that LOLOLOL! If this is what you like, especially for anal, then Brazil is the real McCoy. The real deal Holyfield! Seek and you shall find those plump, round Brasiliera branca behinds! LMAO![/QUOTE]Awesome pics. Post more pics please.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076616]Awesome pics. Post more pics please.[/QUOTE]Check out the Photo Gallery and Anal Connoisseurs threads for all kinds of pics I and others have posted over the years. I would like to see a few of Steve's hoors, but I know he's extra careful about guarding their identities, especially the Seeking girls who are more like semi-pros, which I understand.
Mouths and other holes are not included?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3072755]moah spa has a duplo four hands special for 350 brl.. one hour..two garotas .. 350 brl .. they aint lookers tho you get what ya getZz
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[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076614]Right now I have $4000 dollars cash; $7500 dollars on my schwab debit; 5000 Reals cash. I hope that will be enough or I have to put it on the card. LOL.[/QUOTE]Bro that's going to be more than enough. You can go buck wild with that amount of money provided you can find enough girls that you like, and depending on what kind of stamina you have. That's enough and then some!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3076583]What's your exit plan?
As I've said before, most guys spend more time figuring out how to get a garota into their hotel or Airbnb than they do figuring out how to get her out.
I picked up a hottie, we agreed on the termsboth verbally and over WhatsAppand everything seemed good.
I went back to my nice hotel. Or snuck her into my Airbnb. An hour or two later. Boom. Her personality changed. Suddenly she wanted to leave early. Then she wanted more money. I've had girls smoke in my hotel bathroom, leaving me with a $250 USD cleaning fee at checkout. I've had one run into the hallway crying where everything was on security cameras. I've had enough things go sideways with unvetted garotas that I don't put myself in those situations anymore.
I've also caught girls from whiskerias and some of the lower-end termas trying to go through my pants pockets while I was distracted. None of this is hypothetical. It's happened to me in the Dominican Republic, Panama, and Brazil. If you don't speak Brazilian Portugueseor understand the slangyou've got another layer of headaches.
That's why, when I'm seeing someone new, I usually vet her on-site or keep the party going at Scandallo or Gauguin before heading to a love motel like Lush, Colonial, Crush, or Panda in Rio. We drink, smoke, have another drink, swim, order food, relax, jacuzzi, heated pool, large showers for threesomes and enjoy multiple sessions over several hours and breakfast in bed next day. Swing motel, Crush, Panda motel in Rio, we drink smoke, drink again, marola with ice, swim, party, order food, more sessions, sex dresses with wild fantasies the garotas love, sex toys, whips, chains, blowjob masks, double vibrators, deep throat sprays, lesbian sex toys, whatever fucking fantasy sex swings you want to try is available in love motels.
None of the garotas can leave until reception verifies I am alive to pay. Kkk.
One thing I really like about love motels is that the garota can't simply walk out without reception confirming I'm okay and available to settle the bill. The staff deals with jealous spouses, arguments, disagreements, and drama all the time. That gives me a lot more peace of mind vetting first time garota. Someone I barely know back to my hotel or Airbnb.
I'm not telling anyone what to do.plenty guys bring garotas to girl friendly hotels & airbnb all the time. i have done it too.. I'm just sharing what I've experienced over the years with unvetted brasilian garotas become Unfriendly.. Everyone has to decide their own comfort level. My point is simple: have an exit plan to deal with a lying cheating garota is in your place, ready to cause a mess. just think ahead about garota exit plan.
i had major disagreement with garota at Lumnina spa in moema. my plan to deal with garotas in Moemas spas & clinica worked well.. today there was client garota LOUD disagreement in Miruna.[/QUOTE]So the room are like around 200-500 depending of how long you stay + all the extra or it have included stuff with the room? Can you share some details about the cost for a a night of party with 1-2 girls in a room like this? (excluding the girls paiement of course).
SP Day 2.
Left hotel around 11 am to visit Parque Ecologico do Tiete to see capybaras. Decided to take some cash from Bradesco ATM for the final Night Of Frantic Madness. "Fvck you!" said Bradesco by being closed at Saturday. Long story short, after searching for hours for an open branch all over the centro, I took subway to Moema.
Short review on how to get cash Saturday noon in Sao Paulo:
- Santander just spit my card out.
- Itau doesn't do withdrawals from international cards.
- Caixa is closed everywhere, including Caixa 24 horas branches.
- Bradesco is closed everywhere.
- managed to find Banco 24 Horas ATM at Ibirapuera Mall. It did not accept my correct PIN (it has 5 digits), and after 3rd try refused to work with my card.
I finally managed to find an open Bradesco branch in Moema Av. Ibirapuera, 2220. But it got info from banco 24 horas network and informed me that I wasted my attempts to enter PIN. Correct PIN god dammit!
I have 1200 rs in cash, it will be enough for daytime action in clinicas and one pop in Casarao at night. This is a sad story about how stupid Bradesco bank cockblocked my final day fun at Scandallo, and also did not let me see capybaras. Fortunately yesterday I became one of you, Scandallo and Casarao connaisseurs, and boy do I have things to report (in next post). No, I will not use my credit card to pay 2500+rs expenses in Scandallo.
Frustrated by this fail, I ate at nice and cheap buffet a kilo Tchan Moema. Then hit Moah spa. Bored indifferent receptionist, three average non-enthusiastic garotas. Prices listed are 180 rs for 30 min, 210 rs for 1 hour, 350 rs for "4 maos".
Went to Miruna Spa and hit jackpot. First two garotas were very lovely. Not that young, but welcoming, sexy and smiling. Nicknames Stefanie and Thalia, white teeth, body curves, natural hair, seductive eyes. All went very good, 1 hour of DFK, BBBJ two mouths, massage 4 hands, changing positions etc. Actually the best clinica / prive experience for this trip.
400 reais. All this only for 400 reais, goddammit! I started to forget that such level of service for such price exists!
Additional info: Stefanie has okayish boobjob in terms of look, but it is hard as concrete inside. Very strange. She also is not that flexible or bendable. Thalia is a little bit older in looks, but compensate it with enthusiasm. Asked +300 rs for anal.
Looks like we were in the same casa today with comrade Tochka. Did not hear any arguments or scandals, though.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3076380]I've only ever used uber, 99 (didi's Brazil affiliate), and indrive for GRU airport transfers to Moema. I usually arrive at the morning rush hour so the ride lasts 90 minutes or more. Uber charges US $20 to US $25,99 charges US $15 to US $20. Indrive is the cheapest at US $7 to US $10. I had no idea the taxis cost that much. I'm going to continue to avoid them.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I have always used Uber in the past, but on my last arrival at GRU, T-Mobil International had not kicked in yet, so my choice was to wait around outside the terminal an indefinite amount of time or take advantage of the immediate taxi service. I chose the latter. Incidentally my Samsung G2025+ did kick into local operation around 10 minutes into my ride. I am glad I did what I did. I do not like to wait for anything especially after an 8-hour "red-eye flight"! KKK.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;3076618]Mouths and other holes are not included?[/QUOTE]In brasil 4 hands is a euphemism it does not mean using only hands.
I wasn't shy during the clinica lineup to ask the garotas directly during the presentation if they offered anal or not.
I've have done 4 hands duplo sessions with Larinha Smalls and Ariella Ferraz. You can find their adult videos on the usual porno video sites. I sessioned with both of them together, duplo, at CLnica Tangara for $350 brl and Spa Moah $350 brl and took video fotos with their permission. Occasionally Ariel is at Prime. Ariel & Karen duplo at Prime was mind bending.
Larinha & Ariel are willing to accommodate a wide range of requests. . all three holes available plus they do weird, fetish stuff, piss, swallow & facial piss sharing, cum facials snow balling, cum sharing, anal cum licking, cum anal licking. they are up for any fetish including vomiting on your pecker for dudes into that. Kkk.
I always ask them how they prepare for their porno scenes to have three big black schlongs shoved up their tiny asses kkk and to give me a referral & intro to the next new porno garota in their network.
Larinha has recovered from having a little one and back in the porno & clinica business.
For fellow gringos, $350 has been the duplo price I've paid at both Tangara , Miruna and Spa Moah with confirmed forista discount. But I started at a much higher rate until I got to know the receptionist and they tracked my consistent reviews on gp-guia and I figured out how stuff works in clinicas.
One thing I've noticed: if you don't speak Portuguese and you're not known to the receptionist staff, don't be surprised if you're quoted a higher price. I've personally seen a foreign guy at reception get quoted are $100 to 200 brl more than what I paid for the same duplo session. I think Clinica Yankin & Spa Moah post their duplo prices on the wall. when paying in cash i ask reception to write the amount paid in cash on a receipt. or confirm by wassap message.. sometimes i pay half credit card half cash. sometimes the receptionist gives me the right pricing info when i arrive , but after two hour marathon duplo session there is a different person when checking out, and the their maths is mathing. so sometime pricing can vary .. so double check pricing & discounts. Prime is famous for saying to guys there is different pricing for duplos on weekend vs weekdays,
Check GP Guia reports to know which garotas does anal. Some garotas do not engage in 4 hands session, best to ask receptionist. I'the love to see a presentation lineup like the bar in Sukhumvit, Bangkok, run by the french guy. Garotas stand one side of the white line that offered anal, the other side of the line for garotas who don't. It would save everyone time.
To avoid misunderstandings, I usually tip are $50 to each garota for duplo anal sessions. No, you don't have to tip for anal at a CLnicas. Nor do you need to tip at all. I do it for personal reasons only. It has helped me get the trusted intro me to other younger, attractive garotas in their network through Instagram or WhatsApp that do anal & other stuff but don't work in clinicas, have a day job and prefer to quietly meet clients at love motels.
I have met young discreet 19-21 year old exotic Brazilian- Asian garotas that way. They are hyper protective of their privacy, do not advertise any where, only meet by trusted referrals, and only meet in love motels but are damn freaky in bed, lasting all night & breakfast, to the point of exhaustion, two young energetic exotic looking garotas exploring every inch, uninhibited with all holes available. For 800 brl each 4 hands special.
1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/jgMEiieJqwZkjDgS8[/URL]
2. Has anybody had any issues with using their verizon Phone in Sao Paulo?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3076690]Fair enough. I have always used Uber in the past, but on my last arrival at GRU, T-Mobil International had not kicked in yet, so my choice was to wait around outside the terminal an indefinite amount of time or take advantage of the immediate taxi service. I chose the latter. Incidentally my Samsung G2025+ did kick into local operation around 10 minutes into my ride. I am glad I did what I did. I do not like to wait for anything especially after an 8-hour "red-eye flight"! KKK.[/QUOTE]GRU has free wifi that you can connect to as soon as you land, and it works well in the Uber waiting area. I took a taxi only once in SP and the driver ripped me off by charging 35% above the meter reading. I should have been suspicious when he insisted that I use a credit card to pay. He secretly entered a higher number on the CC machine. By the time I realized, he was long gone. Granted it was only USD 12 extra, but still leaves you dejected.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3076728]In brasil 4 hands is a euphemism it does not mean using only hands.
I wasn't shy during the clinica lineup to ask the garotas directly during the presentation if they offered anal or not.
I've have done 4 hands duplo sessions with Larinha Smalls and Ariella Ferraz. You can find their adult videos on the usual porno video sites. I sessioned with both of them together, duplo, at CLnica Tangara for $350 brl and Spa Moah $350 brl and took video fotos with their permission. Occasionally Ariel is at Prime. Ariel & Karen duplo at Prime was mind bending.
[/QUOTE]Man, you are into some adventurous stuff.
I have sessioned with all 3 multiple times (singly, I am never a fan of 4 hands). The best BJ and PSE goes to Areilla, one of the few who can hold her own as a deep throater. Best GFE goes to Karen, one of my favorites of all time anywhere in the world, and it's amazing she still has the body of a teenager. Larinha tends to be more tame, but can take serious pounding.
[QUOTE=Kib123;3076757]GRU has free wifi that you can connect to as soon as you land, and it works well in the Uber waiting area. I took a taxi only once in SP and the driver ripped me off by charging 35% above the meter reading. I should have been suspicious when he insisted that I use a credit card to pay. He secretly entered a higher number on the CC machine. By the time I realized, he was long gone. Granted it was only USD 12 extra, but still leaves you dejected.[/QUOTE]I am aware of free airport wifi, but I am very reluctant to use it let alone make a financial transaction over it.
The taxi company I used, GUARUCOOP taxis, has a kiosk stand to the right of the terminal's front door and the clerk there quoted the price to my destination which I paid for with my CC before I got into the waiting taxi. I knew I was paying more than an Uber, but I did not care. The convenience of not waiting for T-mobile was worth it to me plus there was no opportunity for an unscrupulous independent taxi driver to clip me. You should have contacted your CC company and flagged the charge. At the very least they would have credited your account the 12 bucks and there is a good probability the whole charge would have been removed. CC's give the consumer a hell of a lot of power.
On that score, I was notified by one of my CC companies on my 3nd week in town of what looked like to them, a fraudulent charge. I had used my card several times in the previous weeks to buy wine at my favorite wine store, Grand Cru. But this charge for $600 was way above my usual charge for 2 bottles of quality Argentinian red wine at the store. My CC company flagged the transaction, I confirmed that the charge was not right, they removed the charge, froze that particular CC account, and sent a new card with a new account number to my home address. I put the frozen CC in my luggage never to be used again, and I whipped out a different CC like the whole thing never happened. And I continued to shop for wine at Grand Cru without any further problems. Never leave home with only one CC!
[QUOTE=Kib123;3076760]Man, you are into some adventurous stuff.
I have sessioned with all 3 multiple times (singly, I am never a fan of 4 hands). The best BJ and PSE goes to Areilla, one of the few who can hold her own as a deep throater. Best GFE goes to Karen, one of my favorites of all time anywhere in the world, and it's amazing she still has the body of a teenager. Larinha tends to be more tame, but can take serious pounding.[/QUOTE]You mean this clinic? [URL]https://clinicatangara.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL].
I searched on their website and on their whatsapp, but I can't find girls with the working name Areilla, Karen and Larinha.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3076035]So for take outs in these places you also pay them afterwards. ? I got curated by a Casarao working girl she left very early for a toda la noite.[/QUOTE]Always pay after. Doesn't matter if it is in house or takeout. If they are adamant about getting aid up front, I propose a 50/50 payment — upon arrival into the room and then afterwards. If she still refuses, dump her. She will be a shitshow in the room.
All the girls I have been with from Scandello have been paid after. One asked for payment before we started in house and I just got up, started to put my pants on and told her that I am cancelling the session. She said she needs to be paid and I said I would pay her once we talk to the manage downstairs and let him figure it out. That ended the argument right there and she said she "trusts" me to pay her after. She did a solid job and I ended up taking her for the night since she offered her ass to me later.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?[/QUOTE]Hey dude, here is a novel technique: RTFF or if you are too lazy to do that, how about 1) clicking on the Advanced Search button, 2) copy and paste the word, "Intercontinental," into the appropriate window 3) select the country "Brazil. " 4) press "enter" and 5) read my recent posts (there are several) concerning this specific hotel. Happy trails,
Axel.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/jgMEiieJqwZkjDgS8[/URL]
2. Has anybody had any issues with using their verizon Phone in Sao Paulo?
Cheers![/QUOTE]If only there were a topic here called "Sao Paulo" hotels.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3077002]If only there were a topic here called "Sao Paulo" hotels.[/QUOTE]Say what?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3077002]If only there were a topic here called "Sao Paulo" hotels.[/QUOTE]Its not up to date about this hotel and no info about more then 1 girl.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]1. I'm thinking about staying at Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave? Has anybody stayed there? Any issues with girls etc?
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Cheers![/QUOTE]The most recent post about it said it is, but no one confirmed if its ok for more then 1 girl. The question after this should be: is there any good love hotel near Intercontinental Hotel on Paulista Ave?
Went to Clinica e Spa Morumbi".
Booked girl was not available (tough I was right on time), so I chose Vitoria".
Paid with CC according to the price-list and was led to one of the massage rooms. After 5 minutes Vitoria showed up, nice and friendly, but much much thinner than on the pictures. She turned out to be a skinny, thin girl, not my style, but well, she was already under the shower (alone).
No shower together BTW.
She then asked massage or sex? I told her both", she laughed. Gave me a back and leg massage, nothing special, but good enough to relax.
After flipping over, she instantly rolled the condom onto Big John, and gave it a good suck (nothing special either). I told her to get into 69 position, and it turned out she had a beautiful pussy to look at and to touch, she also has a beautiful tight back-entrance to touch.
After a few moments she came on top and started to fuck, I then told her to turn around, she sat on Big John again with her nice ass toward my face and fucked real nice until Big John exploded.
Gave me another 15 minutes of massage. I turned around and she started to tease Big John with oil and gave it a a hand relaxation until cumming nr. 2.
Nice experience. Nice girl if you like the skinny type.
Kick in at around 1 am, when prices start to drop a little. Stop by the Bar and get one of their signature drink which is surprinsingly good and worth the price, "Vulcanico" (62 rs).
I start scanning the floor and I see this precious chick with native (indigena) traits. I get up and go talk to her. Ana is the name. As expected a wonderful 19 yo newbie. A bit shy but very nice. Little makeup yet damn cute.
We talk and loosen up a bit and then start negotiating. She wanted 500 for an hour, I countered 350 and we agreed on 400 rs. BBBJ was upon "inspection" to see if my "Guy" was nice and clean.
Once we get to the room (room 2 BTW, a little nicer than others), she agrees for BBBJ. The show starts. Newbie and shy with talking but very wild in the room.
As always at casarao the alarm signal goes on even tho only about 45-50 m have passes (at least in my experience). I usually go for 30 min and try to get 2-3 garotas a night but Ana convinced me to do an hour; at least I had a great experience with her that night.
Total cost: 520 rs (120 rs room + 400 rs ana).
BTW does anyone has nice "tricks" to pay after without arguing too much?
Or do you usually bounce if they refuse?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3076901]You mean this clinic? [URL]https://clinicatangara.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL].
I searched on their website and on their whatsapp, but I can't find girls with the working name Areilla, Karen and Larinha.[/QUOTE]Save for Karen who has been at the same clinic since I first met her a few years ago, these ladies move around a lot. I have sessioned with all at Moema Prime, and Larinha also at Moah in Moema and once in Vila Mariana area (maybe Tangara).
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3076901]You mean this clinic? [URL]https://clinicatangara.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL].
I searched on their website and on their whatsapp, but I can't find girls with the working name Areilla, Karen and Larinha.[/QUOTE]How I Meet Brazilian Adult Film Performers in Rio & SP My Experience.
As Mr. Enternational and Vagabundo have noted in their posts regarding brasilian porno garotas and "porn season" in Rio, many guys overthink, overvalue, and overpay for the experience of meeting a porno garota performer.
My experience & price point for seeing a porno actriz at clinica & prives local love motel is often the same as any other garota.
So Paulo Clinicas: porno performers are often posted as "actriz" at various clinics (especially around Moema). The hourly rates are typically identical to the regular lineup, unless you act thirsty then everyone going to bump up to whatever they can get. They show up whenever and wherever they want.
Rio Prives: Similar setup in Rio's (privs) and private apartments. Vagobundo is good insights there.
The first couple of times I met brasilian porno actriz, I didn't even realize they did porno video work until they showed me some of their clips on their phones during breaks. Or wild stuff inside their privacy video page. Stipper pole dancing with a chain saw while doing elastic anal sex positions. . I didn't need to see that stuff.
There was a thread a few months back about porno garotas and privacy garotas from Casarao doing their privacy videos in your Lush love motel room. Sometimed they asked me to wear a mask & join in
Nope no thanks sweetie cutiepie. You go ahead use the pool & flamingo toys in Lush. Pool to shake your money maker. On video.
BTW as Vagbundo mentioned the porno actriz are on Prep & get tested & other stuff.
Before arriving intown.
I lookup my favorites porno actriz on Instagram, Privacy. Br or wassap network. Oor OnlyFans.
Ariella ferraz and many others are easily found instagram and everywhere. I send a connect request, she accepts, I see she is connected to five of my favorite brasilisn porno garotas.
Boom.
I send a respectful DM to all five. , I get a reply...
Another Boom a respectful conversation starts which clinicas they will *star* in next. Or if they prefers to meetup in love motel and bring a newbie porno garota for us to explore togethet. Kkk.
Once I connect with one porno garotas (e. G. , sending a polite DM), check her mutual connections. porno Performers in the Brazilian scene often follow and work with each other, making it easy to find other porno actriz network, as Kb123 said they move around a lot to different venues & clinicas, cities, countries...no predictability
so I send a straightforward, polite message introducing myself and asking about her schedule, whether she's working out of a specific clinic soon, available for an independent booking at love motel in rio or sp (I published my list & review of Love motels) , or if we can do a duplo session with another newbie, up and cuming brasilian porno actriz at a love motel next week or next month.
For Rio I check the sister sites to GP-Guia to scout which porno actriz is active that week, price and where they are booking.
The OG guys on the forum have truth about banging porno queens: Don't Overpay: Don't let a middleman listings charge you inflated "celebrity" rates. Stick to direct communication or better clinica venue pricing.
And don't be thirsty dudes or become a stalker., I keep my communication simple: Respectful DMs, to get, professional reply, schedules, and locations to hook up.
Have fun, sharing my experiences yours will be very different and your own.
As of July 2026, a few worthy highlights:
Anvrin in Jardins: I sessioned with most of the current lineup. Julia is the star of the house at present, very strong GFE delivery. Jessica is unscripted and sensual, worth a try. Honorable mention goes to Luci. A passionate lover. Antonella, a perennial of this house has lost a ton of weight (perhaps too much? But still a reliable performer. A major let down was Monique who was one of my top talent from last year. She has gained quite some weight and consequently her stomach is jumbled in a very unattractive way. Her sex drive is still strong, but overall lazy performance.
Moema Prime: Good talent here, with Karen still leading the pack, not sure I'll ever get tired of her. Ingrid, Cindi, and Luna, all young and good looking, different styles but all very good BJ delivery. Ingrid has a giant clit for those into that, and Luna has a grip that will vacuum pack your sausage. Vanessa and Alissia were a let down. Ana-Clara, skinny favorite of mine only shows up once in a while, but is worth catching when you can.
Patrao on Miranda Guerra: Still one of my favorite clinicas. I did not have a bad session here. Bruna still leads the pack in top shelf GFE delivery. Best BJ in southern hemisphere. Eva may not be a looker, but totally worth trying for those into unscripted sex.
Enjoy is closed again for some reason, Manu was very good over there.
Bruna (Prive massage girl): I took one for the team with a non-reviewed girl based on ad pics. Her contact info available here: [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?t=286176[/URL] . She responds very quickly and is professional. Location is a shared facility I have been to before in Vila Mariana. Lady is hot and young, early to mid 20's, very very nice Brazilian ass. Fake tits, unfortunately. Started off with a phony professional massage demeanor, giving instructions on professional boundaries and such, staying semi-clothed. Massage was pure crap and luckily ended after about 10 min. She then took off her clothes and surprised me by laying face down and asking me to massage her. Every time a woman ever asked me to do this, things ended very well, and this was no exception. She enjoys sex, a lot, which was fun. But she can't take dick for shit, so if you are average or above, I wouldn't necessarily recommend. She was fun to be with and play with though. Gave me contacts for her friends who operate from the same house, but I didn't have time. Damage was R350 for the HR, but we stayed together at least 1. 5 HR.
Two things that will help newbies maximize quality and minimize risk; get on the clinicas whatsapp list to get lineup updates and make reservations, and use gp-guia to weed out weak prospects (I typically use the negative and neutral filters to scan through bad reviews).
There is neither a Karen, nor a Cindi, Luna or Ingrid on the current line-up shown on their X-site?
[QUOTE=Kib123;3077108]As of July 2026, a few worthy highlights:
Moema Prime: Good talent here, with Karen still leading the pack, not sure I'll ever get tired of her. Ingrid, Cindi, and Luna, all young and good looking, different styles but all very good BJ delivery. Ingrid has a giant clit for those into that, and Luna has a grip that will vacuum pack your sausage. Vanessa and Alissia were a let down. Ana-Clara, skinny favorite of mine only shows up once in a while, but is worth catching when you can.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XAlexX;3077173]There is neither a Karen, nor a Cindi, Luna or Ingrid on the current line-up shown on their X-site?[/QUOTE]Most girls in CLínica don't have a set schedule, they come and go as they please. They also can switch Clinicas day to day also. Best way to see Who is available is to get their WhatsApp status updates or look at the kamaww website for the dozen clinicas that use it daily to post.
[URL]https://prime.kamaww.com/[/URL]
All of girls were at prime within the last few days.
SamaRiding, thanks for posting the following info. "Most girls in Clinica don't have a set schedule, they come and go as they please. They also can switch Clinicas day to day also. Best way to see Who is available is to get their WhatsApp status updates or look at the kamaww website for the dozen clinicas that use it daily to post. "
[URL]https://prime.kamaww.com/[/URL]
This is interesting to me because in June a friend and I went clinica hopping one afternoon and we stopped by Prime around 2 PM. Their lineup of 6 girls was pretty lousy. There was one other customer waiting to see the girls when we arrived; a local punter, and after the lineup was over, all 3 of us got up and walked out. About a week later my friend dropped by Prime again and he told me that the lineup was just as bad as the afternoon we when went there. So yeah, I won't bother going to Prime anymore unless I have an appointment.
It's sad that one of my former favorite clinicas has dropped so far in quality.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077266]SamaRiding, thanks for posting the following info. "Most girls in Clinica don't have a set schedule, they come and go as they please. They also can switch Clinicas day to day also. Best way to see Who is available is to get their WhatsApp status updates or look at the kamaww website for the dozen clinicas that use it daily to post. "
[URL]https://prime.kamaww.com/[/URL]
This is interesting to me because in June a friend and I went clinica hopping one afternoon and we stopped by Prime around 2 PM. Their lineup of 6 girls was pretty lousy. There was one other customer waiting to see the girls when we arrived; a local punter, and after the lineup was over, all 3 of us got up and walked out. About a week later my friend dropped by Prime again and he told me that the lineup was just as bad as the afternoon we when went there. So yeah, I won't bother going to Prime anymore unless I have an appointment.
It's sad that one of my former favorite clinicas has dropped so far in quality.[/QUOTE]Chancing on a clinica lineup is like playing the lotto, odds are not in your favor. I don't do it anymore, except for occasional adventure. Popular girls are almost always pre-booked. Like I stated in my last post and confirmed by Axel, WhatsApp status (or Telegram for some) is your friend.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3076740]
2. Has anybody had any issues with using their verizon Phone in Sao Paulo?
Cheers![/QUOTE]Not in Brazil but in other countries. If something goes wrong with travel pass, it is practically impossible to get hold of customer support from a foreign country.
I have been using google fi for the past 5 years in many countries including Brazil with out issues.
May be worth checking it. You could signup for a month and cancel it after you return.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077266]It's sad that one of my former favorite clinicas has dropped so far in quality.[/QUOTE]Clinicas like everything else were much better 5 years ago. I remember sessioning with almost every girl at Prime in 2021. The line up was amazing. Now maybe 1 or 2 OK girls. But back then my top price at Scandallo was 700. Even MOAH and Indy at the bottom low end clinicas had great girls also. It's been a long time since I've taken a girl there. Indy now seems to specialize in pregnant girls. Times have changed. A lot have moved online.
For a guy who is going to do one lifetime trip to SP and Brazil, low end clinica hopping will be low yield if you are picky. Would recommend sticking to the boates and maybe a few high end clinicas like lotus, Bali, baronesa, alvorada, Sharon for the afternoons.
Good report.
Yeah, on any given day you can.
1. walk into a so called 'trash casa' in centro rj and fuck Lorena green for 80 r. That is 16 dollars. For a negra with a better ass than Ana foxxx (for me, I like the bigger, rounder ones). I fucked Lorena for 16 dollars. Then I fucked her in a prive she moved to a week later, and another. For 150 r or less. I went in and found her again at the trash casa, but I wanted to fuck another porn star that day, and I blew her off. She was offended and after that she blocked me, probably reverse colorism, probably ageism, or some combination, but.
2. in moema, at miruna, there was Cindy blueberry, for the house rate.
3. in moema, there was another top morena porn star, who wifed up the owner into getting her her own clinica around the corner. Wifed up? What a joke. Who marries a prostitute, much less a porn star. Even tho she is 35 ish, she is on yummy porn doing multiple cocks in her holes, what was her name? Kamila Werneck. We all fucked her, we few, we happy few, Cartman.
4. Yasmin Mineira. Now she is charging 1500 r. I fucked her for 150 r when she was fresh off the bus from Minas Gerais in Motel Malaga, found her on the local boards.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3077107]How I Meet Brazilian Adult Film Performers in Rio & SP My Experience.
As Mr. Enternational and Vagabundo have noted in their posts regarding brasilian porno garotas and "porn season" in Rio, many guys overthink, overvalue, and overpay for the experience of meeting a porno garota performer.
My experience & price point for seeing a porno actriz at clinica & prives local love motel is often the same as any other garota.
So Paulo Clinicas: porno performers are often posted as "actriz" at various clinics (especially around Moema). The hourly rates are typically identical to the regular lineup, unless you act thirsty then everyone going to bump up to whatever they can get. They show up whenever and wherever they want...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3077325]Clinicas like everything else were much better 5 years ago. I remember sessioning with almost every girl at Prime in 2021. The line up was amazing. Now maybe 1 or 2 OK girls. But back then my top price at Scandallo was 700. Even MOAH and Indy at the bottom low end clinicas had great girls also. It's been a long time since I've taken a girl there. Indy now seems to specialize in pregnant girls. Times have changed. A lot have moved online.
For a guy who is going to do one lifetime trip to SP and Brazil, low end clinica hopping will be low yield if you are picky. Would recommend sticking to the boates and maybe a few high end clinicas like lotus, Bali, baronesa, alvorada, Sharon for the afternoons.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. I first came to SP in April 2021 when the clinicas and online services were the only game in town. Abboboro and Prime stood out as outstanding places to go with great girls and amazing service. Online girls at MClass were of extraordinary quality and class (KKK) and I never paid those beauties more than 600 br. This is how I became hooked on Brazilian girls.
On my follow up trip to SP in Oct 2021, the boates were back in business and in full swing. The girls I met in Scan that trip were amazing and the ask back then was between 600 br and 800 br. The ASK! So, when a girl offered 600 br, I just accepted the offer and when a girl offered 800 br, I countered with 600 br and every single girl happily accepted the counter.
I met the Missus on that trip when she was asking 600 br. Then on my 4th visit to SP in Oct 2022, she offered an upgrade: 900 BR at my hotel plus an Uber ride back to her apartment for modified ST ie as many shags as I wanted, but no sleep overs and that remains our deal to this day. BTW her ask price in Scan now is 1200 br and she will happily accept a 1000 br counter for a ST in the Scan hotel.
Lastly, today my favorite clinicas are what I call "boutique" clinicas which have a good selection of attractive girls. My current favorite "boutique" joints are the Palm and Sharon each pricing an hour in house session between 650 br to 750 br. I have not tried Baronesa yet, but it is on my hit list.
A. H.
About the Scandalo bottle. I plan to buy a bottle to have the VIP and sit quietly on a chair with a table to chill and relax the whole night while watching the Girls and bring one or two in the room when I feel ready for it. It seems to be the best pattern in this place. I want to have as much as possible to drink to avoid buying a bottle each night if possible. The bottle is more for the girls than for me. I have no idea about Brazilian girls' taste in places like Scandalo, and I would like to avoid buying something they would feel forced to drink. What would be the top 3 bottles set up to have in Scandalo, in your opinion? I know the #1 is probably the $1000 bubble bottles, but I am not a billionaire and a cheap charlie neither. Having a range of prices would help a lot because I want to act classy with the girls.
[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;3061667]
... Going to avoid girls apts if possible..
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;3061770]...Ten minutes went by and garota didn't respond. I crosssed the street and was in front of her building but didn't want to wait in her building's driveway because I didn't want to appear shady so I was on the sidewalk in front of her building. I whipped out my phone to check whatsapp and then when she finally responded, I took my time to comprehend the msg using Google Translate....[/QUOTE]So many stories like this on this board, it's spooky. It's clearly not just bad luck. The snatcher clearly knows some punter are going to be standing on a sidewalk with a cell phone in their hands at this spot. Probably because it's a well-known place, like a popular massage place, or even because the girls waiting for you in her apartment are probably in touch with him.
Is this at risk like this everywhere in SP, Anyone can tell me if the Jardim area have the same risk of being robed?
[QUOTE=Shagmeister7777;3061767]... Just gave United $2100 to fly back home tomorrow instead of my original return on April 22nd. After the incident last night, compounded with my anxiety of something happening to me on solo trips leaving my family helpless (SOL) with no idea on how to find me, this will be my last solo trip. I'll be back in San Paola with friends next time around. Tonight, yall can find me in Scandallo. Hit me up if you are going.[/QUOTE]Wasting a whole trip and paying 2100 $ for it. Why not buy a new cellphone and rent a love-hotel for the rest of your trip and call girls on the place? What was the last incident? The phone snatching or something worse? When you are traveling alone you should definetly inform some friends or family about where you are, no need to tell them you p2 p, its not so obvious. If you stay in a well know red zone like Amsterdam or ws in Pattaya, it will be obvious for everyone, but in huge city its not a problems. I might hurt some people feeling, but an anxious person calling his next move on a public board opened on the world wide web while traveling alone sound very crazy and unsafe. Are you the kind of person walking along unsafe place while wearing short pant made with an American flag with a golden nexklass over your gucci shirt? Scandalo might be safe, but if you call each of your move while carrying a month of Brazilian salary on you is just increasing the risk to have someone waiting for you on the corner.
Going to SP next Monday. Been thinking of hitting Scandallo before 7 pm and just know the place. Now I have been wanting to meet a branca Loira that lets me hit it raw. But I haven't been in Brazil for quite some time. Reading through reports and my own experiences going to casarao. Might take a while to find such a gem. Either I find a loira in a boate and become a regular, session in a clinica and offer outside work or through contacts.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077369]
Lastly, today my favorite clinicas are what I call "boutique" clinicas which have a good selection of attractive girls. My current favorite "boutique" joints are the Palm and Sharon each pricing an hour in house session between 650 br to 750 br. I have not tried Baronesa yet, but it is on my hit list.
A. H.[/QUOTE]I wasn't planning on visiting any clinicas but my lord. That lineup at The Palm is insane. [URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL].
Anybody that's been, please advise on how much touchup is being done with these photos, because it definitely looks too good to be true.
Also, curious if this is the typical quality that you would find at Scandallo?
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3077395]I wasn't planning on visiting any clinicas but my lord. That lineup at The Palm is insane. [URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL]. Anybody that's been, please advise on how much touchup is being done with these photos, because it definitely looks too good to be true. Also, curious if this is the typical quality that you would find at Scandallo?[/QUOTE]I have been to The Palms once, and the girl I chose from the tablet definitely looked like her pic that was shown there (very attractive). That said, the tablet pics didn't look anything like these on the current website, which definitely appear to me to be more professional and touched up. And yes, you can find girls who look like this at Scandallo, but of course every girl won't, and tastes among men vary widely.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3077395]I wasn't planning on visiting any clinicas but my lord. That lineup at The Palm is insane. [URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL].
Anybody that's been, please advise on how much touchup is being done with these photos, because it definitely looks too good to be true.
Also, curious if this is the typical quality that you would find at Scandallo?[/QUOTE]The laptop photos at the Palm are definitely photoshopped. Interestingly, some girls look better in person and others don't. I happen to have strong individual tastes leaning towards slender, naturally endowed girls that are often in conflict with what is popular in the eyes of most of Palm's Brazilian customer base. So, I have kind of learned to look for signs in the photoshopped images of which girls I might actually like the look of. Signs that have escaped the enhancers tool brush. KKK. I hope this helps, but probably not. Frankly, it is hit or miss. You can cancel the session if the girl is not what you want, although I have never done this. I simply roll the dice and accept my fate every time I select a new girl whom I have never been with before and sometimes the girl is better looking than I thought, sometimes she is very similar, and sometimes she is not quite what I had in mind. But I have never been disappointed by the sex. So, over time I have discovered thru trial and error who is hot (in my opinion), who is repeat worthy (in my opinion) and who is not (in my opinion). KKK.
Nothing compares to Scandallo! Could most Palm girls survive in Scan? Yes, and a few could prosper there. But instead of selecting between 10 to 15 girls on a laptop, you can feast your eyes on 125 to 150 girls in person in Scan on most given nights. You can also chat them up, take a test drive and see who really matches what you are looking for. The quality, variety and number of girls to choose from is amazing. I mean there are model quality girls, sexy girl next door type girls, freaky girls with huge asses and huge tits, plain girls and many, many girls in each of these categories. Take your pick. The Palm and similar boutique clinicas offer their customers an afternoon delight at a little less than half the price of a Scan girl alone not counting the Scandallo cover charge, and ST hotel or girly exit fee. I like both venues. One is good for the afternoon and one is good all night. I also like regular clinicas and regular clinica girls who cost half the price that the boutiques charge. Take your pick. That's what SP is all about. City of Women!
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3077322]Not in Brazil but in other countries. If something goes wrong with travel pass, it is practically impossible to get hold of customer support from a foreign country.
I have been using google fi for the past 5 years in many countries including Brazil with out issues.
May be worth checking it. You could signup for a month and cancel it after you return.[/QUOTE]What is Google Fi?
What is the best way to get a burner phone?
Should I buy a 2nd iphone for $200-300 and set it up with same icloud and apple ID and leave my main Verizon phone at the hotel?
Has anybody used Airalo?? Does it work good in Sao Paulo.
The only think I will not be able to receive calls made to my primary phone.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3077386]About the Scandalo bottle. I plan to buy a bottle to have the VIP and I would like to avoid buying something they would feel forced to drink. What would be the top 3 bottles set up to have in Scandalo, in your opinion? I know the #1 is probably the $1000 bubble bottles, corner.[/QUOTE]No need for VIP table at Scandallo.
I kicked things off by buying a bottle of 18 year or 21 -year-old whiskey. My favorite waiters bring over a huge bucket of ice and three glasses. I grabbed my usual spot: right in the back row across from the restroom. It's the ultimate vantage point for garota-watching:
Hot, perfumed garotas flowing into the main room.
Even hotter garotas making their way out.
Garotas sitting at the bar , Garotas standing at the bar, garota standing
in front of garotas standing at the bar (if u know u know)
Absolute stunners heading toward the pool table area to go smoke outdoors.
Average & Shy garotas standing in front of the bottled wall across from the tables.
Garotas going to ladies room ( there is a mirror in front of the ladies room) they stand their checking themselves and looking to see who is checking them out..
Seriously, these garotas are absolute experts at locking eyes from across the room the eye contact is hypnotic.
i never let passby a garota i am excited to see , she may get scooped not to appear again.
My Table Rules.
Before long, three attractive garotas join my table, there are sexy blonde garota bodies , standing moving, everywhere ready to join a table. its a high energy place & i am in the high energy spot.. And i tell every garota My table rules to be crystal clear from the start: every girl at the table must Deep French Kiss (DFK) every other girl.
No shyness, no holding back, and there better be a three-way DFK going on. best to bring her sexy amiga garota ..Meanwhile, there's always a garota providing some under-the-table action & attention
frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone else in the boate thinks about the display.
If a garota isn't vibing, isn't into the group shared kissing dynamic, or comes off too "sharky," Tchau, Tchau gata. I substitute her out immediately.
My sunk cost was a Gin&Tonic or glass of my whiskey.
table normal lineup:
1. One hot branca loira (blonde).
2. One attractive Meghan Markle-type morena.
3. One fiery skinny instagram model ruiva (redhead) or exotic brasilian Asian
When the local band, Red Nova, hits the stage with American rock & roll, I am up dancing and shouting at the top of my lungs. Sometimes I am ask the bouncer to give my written music request & a few Reais to pass a song request up to the stage band. Sorry dudes going to hear stuff I enjoy. Kkkk.
Later, I chat with the manager and move our group (a 3-some /4-some) upstairs next to the DJ booth for a semi-private party table with food, drinks, and continuous music requests. Filipe Ret, Joao Gomes version of Piloto & Dengo, Seu Jorge, and Flora Matos Piloto played back-to-back. The girls absolutely love my music selection, and when the DJ gives three garotas a shout-out over the mike to the entire club, they are excited and start to cream in their panties. I checked. Kkk.
, I put the whiskey bottle into safe keeping with the waiters for my next visit (good for 6 to 9 months) and move the group sex party over to Lush, Crush, 5 min uber rideb or Colonial 8 min uber ride to keep the sex infuzed night going until breakfast in bed with all three garotas in the morning
That is my experience to have VIP experience with a bottle of whiskey without paying for VIP table.
If you see a dude DFK three garotas at the back tables, all three garotas at the same time, not giving a fuck. That probably me. Kkk.
Tochka
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077434]What is Google Fi?[/QUOTE][URL]https://fi.google.com/about[/URL]
Google wireless service.
Planning a visit to SP next month.
Questions for Scan experts.
Is it better to dress in slacks / jacket for Scandallo? Or jeans and polo should be enough?
[QUOTE=Pk099;3077495]Planning a visit to SP next month.
Questions for Scan experts.
Is it better to dress in slacks / jacket for Scandallo? Or jeans and polo should be enough?[/QUOTE]Even though you're going to a high-class / expensive environment, you can dress however you like, I have seen jackets / slacks / shoes all the way to shirt / shorts / sneakers, and everything in between. Generally, Shirt / Jeans is the majority. I tend to go business casual but that is me. I don't believe how you dress will translate to successful outcomes. It's your wallet. LOL!
When you go, please post what you see people are wearing. This question is often asked. Don't over think wardrobe, it best to have good hygiene and be approachable and approach your intended targets.
[QUOTE]=The Cane;3077399] That said, the tablet pics didn't look anything like these on the current website, which definitely appear to me to be more professional and touched up. And yes, you can find girls who look like this at Scandallo, but of course every girl won't, and tastes among men vary widely.[/QUOTE]Well, those website pictures look very good and yes professionally taken. [B]Has anyone experience seeing someone online or clinica then at some time in Scanadallo?[/B].
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077441]What is the best way to get a burner phone?
Should I buy a 2nd iphone for $200-300 and set it up with same icloud and apple ID and leave my main Verizon phone at the hotel?
Has anybody used Airalo?? Does it work good in Sao Paulo.
The only think I will not be able to receive calls made to my primary phone.[/QUOTE]I use Airalo for all my foreign trips in both Latin America including Brazil and in Asia. Works very well.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3077449]No need for VIP table at Scandallo.
I kicked things off by buying a bottle of 18 year or 21 -year-old whiskey. My favorite waiters bring over a huge bucket of ice and three glasses. I grabbed my usual spot: right in the back row across from the restroom. It's the ultimate vantage point for garota-watching:
Hot, perfumed garotas flowing into the main room.
Even hotter garotas making their way out.
Garotas sitting at the bar , Garotas standing at the bar, garota standing
in front of garotas standing at the bar (if u know u know)
Absolute stunners heading toward the pool table area to go smoke outdoors.
Average & Shy garotas standing in front of the bottled wall across from the tables.
Garotas going to ladies room ( there is a mirror in front of the ladies room) they stand their checking themselves and looking to see who is checking them out..
Seriously, these garotas are absolute experts at locking eyes from across the room the eye contact is hypnotic.
i never let passby a garota i am excited to see , she may get scooped not to appear again.
My Table Rules.
Before long, three attractive garotas join my table, there are sexy blonde garota bodies , standing moving, everywhere ready to join a table. its a high energy place & i am in the high energy spot.. And i tell every garota My table rules to be crystal clear from the start: every girl at the table must Deep French Kiss (DFK) every other girl.
No shyness, no holding back, and there better be a three-way DFK going on. best to bring her sexy amiga garota ..Meanwhile, there's always a garota providing some under-the-table action & attention
frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone else in the boate thinks about the display.
If a garota isn't vibing, isn't into the group shared kissing dynamic, or comes off too "sharky," Tchau, Tchau gata. I substitute her out immediately.
My sunk cost was a Gin&Tonic or glass of my whiskey.
table normal lineup:
1. One hot branca loira (blonde).
2. One attractive Meghan Markle-type morena.
3. One fiery skinny instagram model ruiva (redhead) or exotic brasilian Asian
When the local band, Red Nova, hits the stage with American rock & roll, I am up dancing and shouting at the top of my lungs. Sometimes I am ask the bouncer to give my written music request & a few Reais to pass a song request up to the stage band. Sorry dudes going to hear stuff I enjoy. Kkkk.
Later, I chat with the manager and move our group (a 3-some /4-some) upstairs next to the DJ booth for a semi-private party table with food, drinks, and continuous music requests. Filipe Ret, Joao Gomes version of Piloto & Dengo, Seu Jorge, and Flora Matos Piloto played back-to-back. The girls absolutely love my music selection, and when the DJ gives three garotas a shout-out over the mike to the entire club, they are excited and start to cream in their panties. I checked. Kkk.
, I put the whiskey bottle into safe keeping with the waiters for my next visit (good for 6 to 9 months) and move the group sex party over to Lush, Crush, 5 min uber rideb or Colonial 8 min uber ride to keep the sex infuzed night going until breakfast in bed with all three garotas in the morning
That is my experience to have VIP experience with a bottle of whiskey without paying for VIP table.
If you see a dude DFK three garotas at the back tables, all three garotas at the same time, not giving a fuck. That probably me. Kkk.
Tochka[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer, it appreciated. How much Br does a night like this cost you approximately? Including the night at the Love Hotel.
Do you take all these girls to the room? What happens when the girls ask to be paid for sitting with you and blame you for wasting their time?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3077449]No need for VIP table at Scandallo.
I kicked things off by buying a bottle of 18 year or 21 -year-old whiskey. My favorite waiters bring over a huge bucket of ice and three glasses. I grabbed my usual spot: right in the back row across from the restroom. It's the ultimate vantage point for garota-watching:
Hot, perfumed garotas flowing into the main room.
Even hotter garotas making their way out.
Garotas sitting at the bar , Garotas standing at the bar, garota standing
in front of garotas standing at the bar (if u know u know)
Absolute stunners heading toward the pool table area to go smoke outdoors.
Average & Shy garotas standing in front of the bottled wall across from the tables.
Garotas going to ladies room ( there is a mirror in front of the ladies room) they stand their checking themselves and looking to see who is checking them out..
Seriously, these garotas are absolute experts at locking eyes from across the room the eye contact is hypnotic.
i never let passby a garota i am excited to see , she may get scooped not to appear again.
My Table Rules.
Before long, three attractive garotas join my table, there are sexy blonde garota bodies , standing moving, everywhere ready to join a table. its a high energy place & i am in the high energy spot.. And i tell every garota My table rules to be crystal clear from the start: every girl at the table must Deep French Kiss (DFK) every other girl.
No shyness, no holding back, and there better be a three-way DFK going on. best to bring her sexy amiga garota ..Meanwhile, there's always a garota providing some under-the-table action & attention
frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone else in the boate thinks about the display.
If a garota isn't vibing, isn't into the group shared kissing dynamic, or comes off too "sharky," Tchau, Tchau gata. I substitute her out immediately.
My sunk cost was a Gin&Tonic or glass of my whiskey.
table normal lineup:
1. One hot branca loira (blonde).
2. One attractive Meghan Markle-type morena.
3. One fiery skinny instagram model ruiva (redhead) or exotic brasilian Asian
When the local band, Red Nova, hits the stage with American rock & roll, I am up dancing and shouting at the top of my lungs. Sometimes I am ask the bouncer to give my written music request & a few Reais to pass a song request up to the stage band. Sorry dudes going to hear stuff I enjoy. Kkkk.
Later, I chat with the manager and move our group (a 3-some /4-some) upstairs next to the DJ booth for a semi-private party table with food, drinks, and continuous music requests. Filipe Ret, Joao Gomes version of Piloto & Dengo, Seu Jorge, and Flora Matos Piloto played back-to-back. The girls absolutely love my music selection, and when the DJ gives three garotas a shout-out over the mike to the entire club, they are excited and start to cream in their panties. I checked. Kkk.
, I put the whiskey bottle into safe keeping with the waiters for my next visit (good for 6 to 9 months) and move the group sex party over to Lush, Crush, 5 min uber rideb or Colonial 8 min uber ride to keep the sex infuzed night going until breakfast in bed with all three garotas in the morning
That is my experience to have VIP experience with a bottle of whiskey without paying for VIP table.
If you see a dude DFK three garotas at the back tables, all three garotas at the same time, not giving a fuck. That probably me. Kkk.
Tochka[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3077545]I use Airalo for all my foreign trips in both Latin America including Brazil and in Asia. Works very well.[/QUOTE]Buy a 2nd phone. They are cheap, and keeps things separate cleanly. Don't put any bank apps or anything sensitive on it.
Is it best to arrive on Saturday at 6 AM? Or a Tuesday 6 AM? in Sao Paulo
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077589]Is it best to arrive on Saturday at 6 AM? Or a Tuesday 6 AM? in Sao Paulo[/QUOTE]I would pick TUE if schedule permits. Most of the clubs and clinicas are closed on Sunday so limited choice.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3077562]Do you take all these girls to the room? What happens when the girls ask to be paid for sitting with you and blame you for wasting their time?[/QUOTE]Seriously?? Why the fuck would I pay for a garota's time just to perform an interview over a free drink?
They get a chance to party, smoke weed with Ice, get paid, and hit a nearby love motel for jacuzzi fun, heated pools with sex toys, hot-tub sex, and a paid Uber home. Sorry, I don't simp out that waynot at Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin (Scandallo lite), Connection (good, but far), Caster Club, Bomboa (small / Bahamas closed), Zeus (dont go) or Caf Foto (sucks).
If a garota wants to walk away in her painfully tight high heels while hearing me and the other garotas laughing our asses off, let her bounce. The next stunning, green-eyed Meghan Markle lookalike is already eager to get attention, sit on my lap, and join the party table. Easily swap out three or four garotas to get the right party combo. .. yes sometimes i gotta reject their amigas cause two beautiful hotties dont hang out together.. except in Gaguin kkk
When we leave, we take an Uber (sometimes two, kkk) over to Lush, Crush, Colonial, or Swing motel.
Equal Pay: I pay all garotas the exact same amount100% equal across the board. No drama, no envy, and zero jealousy when they gossip in the banheiro.
Cashless Logistics: I pay strictly by card by personal choice, Mercado Pago, InfinitePay, or Apple Pay. Carrying a month's worth of Brazilian Salary in cash in my pockets just makes me more interesting to low down good fer nothing for motoboys. I already posted about snatch & grab of garotas purses & iphones when they are leaving Rio Branco prives in Rio walking to the omnibus or metro in Rio.
Snatch & grab of purses by feckless motoboys while garotas waiting for uber ride.
this is personal choice only, for my local rep and safety to not be know carrying wads of cash .when i aint going to scandallo just to Bem Barato
.most dudes pay garotas by cash and I agree.. dudes pay ur garotas in cash.. be sure to ask her for a NF (just kidding) I pay cash as too its not my personal first choice..
Zero Drama party policy.
Occasionally, a garota wants to drop out at 4:00 AM to chance her luck on the Scandallo floor for another client, or she demands more than the group rate. Tchau, tchau, gata.
Scandallo Sharks and shady garotas aren't invited to my table. The other garotas know exactly who the problematic ones are, and we screen out anyone who's going to be a pain in the ass.
While this forum of guys & dudes and bros is helpful, tapping into the Scandallo garota network and cashier gossip circle gives the absolute best real-life insights on garotas..
the only thing brasilian garotas luv more than their iphone & watching instagram reels is Pix and Fofoca .. kkkk .. this is my experience yours will be different
[QUOTE=Tochka;3077607]Seriously?? Why the fuck would I pay for a garota's time just to perform an interview over a free drink?[/QUOTE]I once had a couple of hotties ask me for a tip after we had been chatting for awhile (they approached me). Uh GTFOH girlies! You're in the wrong job. This is the one where you get paid for taking your panties down and spreading your legs (and hopefully your cheeks too)!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3077607]Seriously?? Why the fuck would I pay for a garota's time just to perform an interview over a free drink?
They get a chance to party, smoke weed with Ice, get paid, and hit a nearby love motel for jacuzzi fun, heated pools with sex toys, hot-tub sex, and a paid Uber home. Sorry, I don't simp out that waynot at Scandallo, Casaro, Gauguin (Scandallo lite), Connection (good, but far), Caster Club, Bomboa (small / Bahamas closed), Zeus (dont go) or Caf Foto (sucks).
If a garota wants to walk away in her painfully tight high heels while hearing me and the other garotas laughing our asses off, let her bounce. The next stunning, green-eyed Meghan Markle lookalike is already eager to get attention, sit on my lap, and join the party table. Easily swap out three or four garotas to get the right party combo. .. yes sometimes i gotta reject their amigas cause two beautiful hotties dont hang out together.. except in Gaguin kkk
When we leave, we take an Uber (sometimes two, kkk) over to Lush, Crush, Colonial, or Swing motel.
Equal Pay: I pay all garotas the exact same amount100% equal across the board. No drama, no envy, and zero jealousy when they gossip in the banheiro.
Cashless Logistics: I pay strictly by card by personal choice, Mercado Pago, InfinitePay, or Apple Pay. Carrying a month's worth of Brazilian cash in my pockets just makes me more interesting to low down good fer nothing for motoboys. I already posted about snatch & grab of garotas purses & iphones when they are leaving Rio Branco prives in Rio walking to the omnibus or metro in Rio.
Snatch & grab of purses by feckless motoboys while garotas waiting for uber ride.
Zero Drama party policy.
Occasionally, a garota wants to drop out at 4:00 AM to chance her luck on the Scandallo floor for another client, or she demands more than the group rate. Tchau, tchau, gata.
Scandallo Sharks and shady garotas aren't invited to my table. The other garotas know exactly who the problematic ones are, and we screen out anyone who's going to be a pain in the ass.
While this forum of guys is helpful, tapping into the Scandallo garota network and cashier gossip circle gives the absolute best real-life insights on garotas.. this is my experience yours will be different[/QUOTE]What is your favorite Love Motel??
Do you pay the girls with credit card? Not worry about fees?
Scandallo.
First of all let me admit how insanely accurate were previous contributors when they were describing Scandallo and Casarao. Everything is true, including such little details like wall of purses and 20 min+ waiting lines in Casarao's next-door motel or the size of Scandallo's restaurant or their garota screening process. Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Looks like my posts about other mongering places get zero interest, let's see if my Scandallo experience gets more attention, hehehe.
Scandallo:
1. Yes, they accept passport copy from the screen. Mine is photoshopped and my fake surname sounds funny in portuguese, but receptionist in Scandallo was the only person during this trip to notice it and laugh, and then use it as nickname at checkout.
2. Wear whatever you want. I didn't see crocs (cuzz it was +16 C), but I did see shorts, tourist pants and old shabby sport shoes. Dudes looked more like intercity autobus passengers, not like fancy club members. Garotas were dressed extra nice and chic of course. Pobrecitas garotas wearing short cocktail dress with +16 celcius outside. One of them told me local proverb meaning "putas don't freeze" or something like that, LOL.
3. Jizzus fckng Christ it is huge! You indeed can fit all top-5 Rio's boates in one restaurant of Scandallo. And it has even bigger bar / club. And big outdoor lounge. The size of shower cabin alone in Scandallo's room is bigger than entire standard room in Centaurus, for example.
4. My visit was Friday at midnight, I counted maybe 200 garotas and 100+ clients. I know, fridays are slower than wednesdays or thursdays, and garotas confirm that. Again, all as described by fellow ISG members.
5. Entry is 600 rs, 400 consumable. I had 1 juice, 2 waters, 1 redbull 60 rs, 1 cocktail for garota 100 rs, 2 x salgados 2 x80 rs (order one for 2 persons, the portions are big, we did not eat half of the food). My consummation was 420 total, so I paid 620 on exit.
5. Room for 1 hour is 340 rs. There is 380 rs option, I guess it is VIP room or something like that.
Now, the most interesting part. I hate the fact that Bradesco bank left me without cash for my last night, so I had to skip my second visit to Scandallo. I therefore have been there only once and all veterans can rightfully criticize my report, I understand that.
But. . .
Boy, your standards are low, gentlemen. . . With all respect I have to the contributors of this forum, to all fellow mongers and Brazil admirers. Really?
Yes, there are 200+ garotas, maybe 400+ on busy nights. Yes, to work there they pass screening, including interview and body check (by sending swimsuit photo, not in person). They dress nice and have nice hair and makeup. 99% of them are brancas, loiras or morenas, sorry chocolate lovers, sorry aborigena-manauaras lovers, sorry japonesas lovers.
But most of them are 25+, or even 30 yo. Fake blondes with kilograms of makeup, desperately clinging to the remnants of fading beauty. As a person who grew up among young slavic girls and then became a Latina enjoyer. . . Hear me out! Fake blonde with silicone tits is not "model-like" Hi-end puta!
This trip to Brazil was very scarce in beauties. At Solarium, for example, I barely could choose one garota to my taste. 1 in 30. Now, the ratio in Scandallo is the same. 6 times more garotas, but only 5-6 who can catch my eye. And I mean "make me consider going with her", not "12/10 absolute beauty that I want to fvck no matter what".
I saw Luna Lovegood and Anya Taylor Joy doppelgangers, saw platinum Russian blonde with stereotypical nose and accent, I saw nice GNDs and nice Latinas, but nobody worth 1200-1500 rs session fee and 2500 rs+ total expenses for "Scandallo experience". I also saw a victim of very bad plastic surgury, like thai-ladyboy style, and I saw senora 40+yo. The girls in Casarao later that night could wear less vulgare and more classy dresses and most of them could replace Scandallo's "nice latinas and GNDs".
I want to be wrong, I want to believe that model-level garotas all went to Europe for summer season, that it was a slow night, that my one-visit experience is irrelevant. But for the level of expectations you set here and for the cost of garotas, Scandallo experience was very disappointing.
Throw your stones!
Long story short, I went in, registered by fake name, got some badge or number, walked around premises shocked by the size of the place. In the club area there was a live band show, playing and singing covers of popular songs. Most of the garotas and clients were there enjoying music, but nobody clapped. Gallon-size champagne bottles kept coming and coming. Talked to one nice loira, asked most of the questions about how things are done here, including girl's itinerary, screening process, busy and quiet days, etc. Bolt-ONS, 1 inch of makeup on her face. Sorry, not worth 1500 rs.
Talk to another one, quite young, student-vibe, friendly garota. Outdoor lounge, +16 degrees, she is wearing only cocktail dress. "Putas don't freeze".
Talked to a few other desperate garotas, who approached me. Nothing interesting, I would not pick them up here for 1000-1500-2000 rs, I would not pick them in 4 x 4 or Perola Negra for 600 rs, I would not pick them at Belprazer or Moema Prime for 200 rs.
Was looking for promised 10/10 models, but got nothing. Decided maybe I should pick up Luna Lovegood or Anya Taylor Joy, or that nice looking tall GND latina? But if came here for top models! ISG promised me!
Got hungry and invited friendly "student" garota to join me in restaurant. Nicknamed Leticia Kelly. She does not speak english, but easy to talk to, she is young, slim, has fresh skin, some promising boobs, and nice smile and attitude. She does not crave champagne, so my side expenses for her were around 200 rs. Sat together in restaurant near the entrance and spent 30 minutes discussing garotas and clients walking by, mocking them and laughing.
She quoted 2000 rs, I countered 1000 rs (thank you gentlemen for encouraging). She says 1700 no less, I countered 1500, she accepted. Now I understand how you gentlemen can insist on 1200 rs just by walking out to next garota. It is easy when you have 200+ garotas and most of them are in your acceptance range. I did discuss the BBBJ rule with her, no problem.
We go to the hotel section which is also huge af. 340 rs, we got enormous room with a shower alone bigger than standard room in goddamn Centaurus. It had 3 shower heads!
Turned on some Brazilian lounge music on speakers, we start to dance and shower together. Her eyes are too wide apart, her top is more like of gymnastic athlete, I mean not so ideal boobs, but she is young and slim, and behave like your girlfriend. BBBJ, and action was really good, real GFE, no rush, I lasted longer than usual just to enjoy this quality process. No anal. Maybe she said yes to 2nd pop during this hour, I don't remember, sorry, but I was exhausted and actually saving fuel for another round in Casarao later tonight.
Overall:
- Scandallo itself 9/10, (not taking prices into account).
- garotas lineup - 6 (disappointing).
- prices too high!
My garota:
- face 6,5.
- body 7,5.
- attitude 9.
- process 9.
Next post will be about Casarao experience.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3077563]Buy a 2nd phone. They are cheap, and keeps things separate cleanly. Don't put any bank apps or anything sensitive on it.[/QUOTE]I am using backmarket site to buy used phones. BTW, they looks like new.
But, make sure, that phone support esim and unlocked.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077589]Is it best to arrive on Saturday at 6 AM? Or a Tuesday 6 AM? in Sao Paulo[/QUOTE]Tuesday. Activities build up during the week, then set up private or call backs during the weekened.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3077636]Scandallo.
... Mine is photoshopped and my fake surname ...
... I went in, registered by fake name...
.[/QUOTE]Why give a false name? I don't get it. You are not the first one to mention doing this, what is the problem with giving a real name?
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3077636]Scandallo. 4. My visit was Friday at midnight, I counted maybe 200 garotas and 100+ clients. I know, fridays are slower than wednesdays or thursdays, and garotas confirm that. Again, all as described by fellow ISG members.
BUT... Boy, your standards are low, gentlemen. . . With all respect I have to the contributors of this forum, to all fellow mongers and Brazil admirers. Really?
Yes, there are 200+ garotas, maybe 400+ on busy nights. Yes, to work there they pass screening, including interview and body check (by sending swimsuit photo, not in person). They dress nice and have nice hair and makeup. 99% of them are brancas, loiras or morenas, sorry chocolate lovers, sorry aborigena-manauaras lovers, sorry japonesas lovers..[/QUOTE]No stones mate, but I think your expectations were perhaps set a little too high. No place on this Earth has 10's and 9's. I don't know where you got that idea from. Maybe some BM's have posted a few inflated score numbers. I generally discount that kind of reporting. My experience in Scandallo has always been that on a good night maybe 150 girls are present and out that pool roughly 7% to 10% are lookers or type 1 girls meaning that if I were to rate them on a point scale they would be 7. 5 to 8 stars for face and body. Then there are approximately another 7% to 15% that are what I think of as sexy girl next door types or Type 2 girls which translates on my point scale to approximately 6. 0 to 7. 5 stars. So, what I am trying to say is that on a good night between 10 pm and midnight roughly 20 to 40 girls are attractive to me. And then it all comes down to who catches my eye with her smile or that special something in her personality and that is who I invite over for a drink to get things rolling.
Now comparing my individual Scandallo stats to my experiences else where like in my favorite BKK or Pattaya Go Go's where I am happy if I see 4 or 5 girls I want to shag, or my favorite RJ Terma where I am happy if I spot 2 or 3 girls that look good to me, or in the best Macau Saunas were by my tastes maybe 15 out of 200 girls or 7.5% look really hot, I mean really hot like 7.5 to 8.5 stars in my book: my Scan stats seem pretty good to me.
Then comparing the average level of performance that I am used to getting in Scan which can vary from 6 stars, meaning I am happy to 9 stars meaning I am blown away to the average level of performance I have received from my BKK or Pattaya Go Go girls, it is kind of a joke. I mean in Thailand I have been with some great girls as good in bed as any Scandallo girls I have had, but most Go Go girls just do not come up to the Scan girl level of performance. They just don't and I love Thai Go Go girls. Lastly, I must add that the level of performance in the best Macua saunas is remarkable, no question about it, but it is a different kind of sex, more PSE, more by the numbers too than the kind of GFE sex I get from my Scandallo girls. Different culture I guess accounts for it as well as the fact that Macau sauna girls are trained by management and management does not like unhappy customers so the level of performance is remarkable plus sauna customers receive all kinds of kinky stuff during the session like having every square inch of your body licked including the souls of your feet, and having a girl stick a small shard of ice up your ass with her tongue and keeping the ice plugged up in there until it melts down her chin, and I will never ever forget fire & ice BJ's. (I really like that one.) So, the whole sauna experience including the intercourse finale is all designed to make the customer feel like a king, even though most of the time this is not "passionate" sex. But it does make one feel real good!
Ok, this is post is getting a little long winded so I will wrap it up with my main point: Scandallo rates pretty high in my estimation and by comparison to some of my favorite haunts. That's why I keep coming back for more. But after 5 years way from SE Asia, I am starting to get the itch to go back again. Maybe after my next trip to SP in September and after the next Songkran in the spring 2027. KKK /555.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3077660]Why give a false name? I don't get it. You are not the first one to mention doing this, what is the problem with giving a real name?[/QUOTE]What was the problem for you to register with your real name on this forum? Why BennieBen, and not Benjamin Lacroix or Benjamin Kowalski?
I am trying to leave as little as possible my digital traces. I almost always use cash, I use disposable whatsapp accounts with no real name or photo, my FB page has fake name and no photo, I always lie to garotas about my name, duration of my stay, my hotel, my hometown, amount of friends etc. I never post same photos on my social media and on mongering forums. I even used fake moustache and grimaces to pass that stupid age verification check on Photoaccompanhantes, LOL.
Did "Dominican mafia" ever contacted you by whatsapp, showing your real photos from social media and trying to blackmail you? Did shady scammers ever get a credit loan on your name without your consent? Did scammers ever rent your apartment using your profile picture on Airbnb?
I maybe overreacting, but I am sure. Such paranoia saved me a lot of nerves, money and who know what else. Our little "hobby" is not the place for real personal info.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;3077502]...
When you go, please post what you see people are wearing. This question is often asked. Don't over think wardrobe, it best to have good hygiene and be approachable and approach your intended targets.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. Most of my cloths are jeans / polos, so its good to know that is acceptable dress code. Most of the time I carry a blazer type jacket with me, so that helps.
I will definitely report back what I see most people wearing (hopefully I can go multiple days).
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3077636]Scandallo.
First of all let me admit how insanely accurate were previous contributors when they were describing Scandallo and Casarao. Everything is true, including such little details like wall of purses and 20 min+ waiting lines in Casarao's next-door motel or the size of Scandallo's restaurant or their garota screening process. Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Looks like my posts about other mongering places get zero interest, let's see if my Scandallo experience gets more attention, hehehe.
Scandallo:
1. Yes, they accept passport copy from the screen. Mine is photoshopped and my fake surname sounds funny in portuguese, but receptionist in Scandallo was the only person during this trip to notice it and laugh, and then use it as nickname at checkout.
2. Wear whatever you want. I didn't see crocs (cuzz it was +16 C), but I did see shorts, tourist pants and old shabby sport shoes. Dudes looked more like intercity autobus passengers, not like fancy club members. Garotas were dressed extra nice and chic of course. Pobrecitas garotas wearing short cocktail dress with +16 celcius outside. One of them told me local proverb meaning "putas don't freeze" or something like that, LOL.
3. Jizzus fckng Christ it is huge! You indeed can fit all top-5 Rio's boates in one restaurant of Scandallo. And it has even bigger bar / club. And big outdoor lounge. The size of shower cabin alone in Scandallo's room is bigger than entire standard room in Centaurus, for example.
4. My visit was Friday at midnight, I counted maybe 200 garotas and 100+ clients. I know, fridays are slower than wednesdays or thursdays, and garotas confirm that. Again, all as described by fellow ISG members.
5. Entry is 600 rs, 400 consumable. I had 1 juice, 2 waters, 1 redbull 60 rs, 1 cocktail for garota 100 rs, 2 x salgados 2 x80 rs (order one for 2 persons, the portions are big, we did not eat half of the food). My consummation was 420 total, so I paid 620 on exit.
5. Room for 1 hour is 340 rs. There is 380 rs option, I guess it is VIP room or something like that.
Now, the most interesting part. I hate the fact that Bradesco bank left me without cash for my last night, so I had to skip my second visit to Scandallo. I therefore have been there only once and all veterans can rightfully criticize my report, I understand that.
But. . .
Boy, your standards are low, gentlemen. . . With all respect I have to the contributors of this forum, to all fellow mongers and Brazil admirers. Really?
Yes, there are 200+ garotas, maybe 400+ on busy nights. Yes, to work there they pass screening, including interview and body check (by sending swimsuit photo, not in person). They dress nice and have nice hair and makeup. 99% of them are brancas, loiras or morenas, sorry chocolate lovers, sorry aborigena-manauaras lovers, sorry japonesas lovers.
But most of them are 25+, or even 30 yo. Fake blondes with kilograms of makeup, desperately clinging to the remnants of fading beauty. As a person who grew up among young slavic girls and then became a Latina enjoyer. . . Hear me out! Fake blonde with silicone tits is not "model-like" Hi-end puta!
This trip to Brazil was very scarce in beauties. At Solarium, for example, I barely could choose one garota to my taste. 1 in 30. Now, the ratio in Scandallo is the same. 6 times more garotas, but only 5-6 who can catch my eye. And I mean "make me consider going with her", not "12/10 absolute beauty that I want to fvck no matter what".
I saw Luna Lovegood and Anya Taylor Joy doppelgangers, saw platinum Russian blonde with stereotypical nose and accent, I saw nice GNDs and nice Latinas, but nobody worth 1200-1500 rs session fee and 2500 rs+ total expenses for "Scandallo experience". I also saw a victim of very bad plastic surgury, like thai-ladyboy style, and I saw senora 40+yo. The girls in Casarao later that night could wear less vulgare and more classy dresses and most of them could replace Scandallo's "nice latinas and GNDs".
I want to be wrong, I want to believe that model-level garotas all went to Europe for summer season, that it was a slow night, that my one-visit experience is irrelevant. But for the level of expectations you set here and for the cost of garotas, Scandallo experience was very disappointing.
Throw your stones!
Long story short, I went in, registered by fake name, got some badge or number, walked around premises shocked by the size of the place. In the club area there was a live band show, playing and singing covers of popular songs. Most of the garotas and clients were there enjoying music, but nobody clapped. Gallon-size champagne bottles kept coming and coming. Talked to one nice loira, asked most of the questions about how things are done here, including girl's itinerary, screening process, busy and quiet days, etc. Bolt-ONS, 1 inch of makeup on her face. Sorry, not worth 1500 rs.
Talk to another one, quite young, student-vibe, friendly garota. Outdoor lounge, +16 degrees, she is wearing only cocktail dress. "Putas don't freeze".
Talked to a few other desperate garotas, who approached me. Nothing interesting, I would not pick them up here for 1000-1500-2000 rs, I would not pick them in 4 x 4 or Perola Negra for 600 rs, I would not pick them at Belprazer or Moema Prime for 200 rs.
Was looking for promised 10/10 models, but got nothing. Decided maybe I should pick up Luna Lovegood or Anya Taylor Joy, or that nice looking tall GND latina? But if came here for top models! ISG promised me!
Got hungry and invited friendly "student" garota to join me in restaurant. Nicknamed Leticia Kelly. She does not speak english, but easy to talk to, she is young, slim, has fresh skin, some promising boobs, and nice smile and attitude. She does not crave champagne, so my side expenses for her were around 200 rs. Sat together in restaurant near the entrance and spent 30 minutes discussing garotas and clients walking by, mocking them and laughing.
She quoted 2000 rs, I countered 1000 rs (thank you gentlemen for encouraging). She says 1700 no less, I countered 1500, she accepted. Now I understand how you gentlemen can insist on 1200 rs just by walking out to next garota. It is easy when you have 200+ garotas and most of them are in your acceptance range. I did discuss the BBBJ rule with her, no problem.
We go to the hotel section which is also huge af. 340 rs, we got enormous room with a shower alone bigger than standard room in goddamn Centaurus. It had 3 shower heads!
Turned on some Brazilian lounge music on speakers, we start to dance and shower together. Her eyes are too wide apart, her top is more like of gymnastic athlete, I mean not so ideal boobs, but she is young and slim, and behave like your girlfriend. BBBJ, and action was really good, real GFE, no rush, I lasted longer than usual just to enjoy this quality process. No anal. Maybe she said yes to 2nd pop during this hour, I don't remember, sorry, but I was exhausted and actually saving fuel for another round in Casarao later tonight.
Overall:
- Scandallo itself 9/10, (not taking prices into account).
- garotas lineup - 6 (disappointing).
- prices too high!
My garota:
- face 6,5.
- body 7,5.
- attitude 9.
- process 9.
Next post will be about Casarao experience.[/QUOTE]I'm curious Which country or place have you had the most beautiful girls & Mongering??
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3077636]Boy, your standards are low, gentlemen. . . With all respect I have to the contributors of this forum, to all fellow mongers and Brazil admirers. Really? Was looking for promised 10/10 models, but got nothing. Decided maybe I should pick up Luna Lovegood or Anya Taylor Joy, or that nice looking tall GND latina? But I came here for top models! ISG promised me![/QUOTE]Speaking of falsehoods, who promised you that? Nobody here promised you that. And anyone with any sense would know that any such claim would immediately need to be treated as suspect since solid 10's are rare on most anybody's optics scale. I don't care where you are. Summing it up, what I and other seasoned Scandallo patrons have consistently said is that you will find a range of women on the stroll at Scandallo, with the bell curve most decidedly being skewed way more towards "fuckable" than "unfuckable". Now like with any other establishment, it's rare for me to find a lot of solid 10's at Scandallo (also rare for below a 7 on my scale but def possible). I have never promoted anything contrary to that. What I do find though are lots of girls who I find to be very attractive who make me want to spend that money (but agree 1,500 reals is too much). Additionally, I am one who puts his pictures where his mouth is by posting photos of the kinds of girls I have found and fucked at Scandallo and other clubs. I'm not like most mongers who talk a lot about how hot she looks, but who never put up a single pic (or very rarely do to the point that you can't remember the last time they did). You want to see exactly what I've been fucking in Brazil (and other countries)? Then look at the pictures I post. No exaggerated promises coming from The Cane! What you see is what I got! Call her a 10/10 model, or call her a 6, but that's who and what I have been fucking. And you can hit that too if you want to and your timing / luck is right! Scandallo is not going to be for everybody for a variety of different reasons (nobody is "obligated" to like it), and I do appreciate that you didn't resort to making up a bunch of lies about the place to justify any negatives you may have had from your experience there, including about how much it costs. I find your overall report to be fair and balanced. But, the bottom line is that if you went to Scandallo expecting to find a bunch of model-quality tutes on the stroll all over the place, then that's a false expectation that you put inside of your own head yourself my fellow. May you have a better experience should you ever decide to try it again (I recommend fall and spring, according to North American seasons, as the best times to be in Brazil in general).
Note: And thanks for reporting that Scandallo wasn't totally dead on a Friday night. This is something I have been saying forever about Friday and Saturday nights there, which is usually when I have gone. Put me in a luxe environment with 200+ garotas at least, and I'm seeing several I want to fuck to the left of me and to my right, and I'm one happy monger! Yes siree Bob I am!
I've been to virtually all the major destinations in the world and there's no place where all the women are hot-looking. Scandallo is probably the best for quality X quantity combination, but there are plenty there I wouldn't pay one Real to bone.
I think the appeal of Scandallo is the holistic entertainment experience. A beautiful venue with live music, excellent food and drink, added to the sheer number of attractive women. The vibe can be incredible.
But there are some nights I don't want that experience. Sometimes a more laid-back venue fits my mood.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077735]Speaking of falsehoods, who promised you that? Nobody here promised you that. And anyone with any sense would know that any such claim would immediately need to be treated as suspect since solid 10's are rare on most anybody's optics scale. I don't care where you are. Summing it up, what I and other seasoned Scandallo patrons have consistently said is that you will find a range of women on the stroll at Scandallo, with the bell curve most decidedly being skewed way more towards "fuckable" than "unfuckable". Now like with any other establishment, it's rare for me to find a lot of solid 10's at Scandallo (also rare for below a 7 on my scale but def possible). I have never promoted anything contrary to that. What I do find though are lots of girls who I find to be very attractive who make me want to spend that money (but agree 1,500 reals is too much). Additionally, I am one who puts his pictures where his mouth is by posting photos of the kinds of girls I have found and fucked at Scandallo and other clubs. I'm not like most mongers who talk a lot about how hot she looks, but who never put up a single pic (or very rarely do to the point that you can't remember the last time they did). You want to see exactly what I've been fucking in Brazil (and other countries)? Then look at the pictures I post. No exaggerated promises coming from The Cane! What you see is what I got! Call her a 10/10 model, or call her a 6, but that's who and what I have been fucking. And you can hit that too if you want to and your timing / luck is right! Scandallo is not going to be for everybody for a variety of different reasons (nobody is "obligated" to like it), and I do appreciate that you didn't resort to making up a bunch of lies about the place to justify any negatives you may have had from your experience there, including about how much it costs. I find your overall report to be fair and balanced. But, the bottom line is that if you went to Scandallo expecting to find a bunch of model-quality tutes on the stroll all over the place, then that's a false expectation that you put inside of your own head yourself my fellow. May you have a better experience should you ever decide to try it again (I recommend fall and spring, according to North American seasons, as the best times to be in Brazil in general).
Note: And thanks for reporting that Scandallo wasn't totally dead on a Friday night. This is something I have been saying forever about Friday and Saturday nights there, which is usually when I have gone. Put me in a luxe environment with 200+ garotas at least, and I'm seeing several I want to fuck to the left of me and to my right, and I'm one happy monger! Yes siree Bob I am![/QUOTE]If Scandallo is not the best in the world then where is the best place for mongering? 100 girls above 7 is awesome. GFE & anal is what puts an establishment in elite category.
It is a worldwide trend over the past 5-10 years that quality is down in stripclubs, boates, gogos etc. Super hot girls have better options these days with more privacy and less rules.
For example Asia, Thailand's gogo bars or Burgos street Manila were amazing some 15 years ago. Stunners everywhere. These days it takes time to find hot girls. Thailand has very few good places left, Manila has Lips agogo, Jakarta Malio Club. Do they have only 10/10 stunners? Of course not.
I feel sp clubs had also better qualilty when I went first time pre-pandemic. In Colombia the same. Never went to Help in Rio, but I heart good things. Nowadays most rio clubs are trash, few places where occasionally 1-2 girls scandallo standard can be found. Even for black girls I would not say rio is that great. Nothing beats madagascar in that regard. One of the last unspoiled destinations these days.
[QUOTE=Safado007;3077760]It is a worldwide trend over the past 5-10 years that quality is down in stripclubs, boates, gogos etc. Super hot girls have better options these days with more privacy and less rules.
For example Asia, Thailand's gogo bars or Burgos street Manila were amazing some 15 years ago. Stunners everywhere. These days it takes time to find hot girls. Thailand has very few good places left, Manila has Lips agogo, Jakarta Malio Club. Do they have only 10/10 stunners? Of course not.
I feel sp clubs had also better qualilty when I went first time pre-pandemic. In Colombia the same. Never went to Help in Rio, but I heart good things. Nowadays most rio clubs are trash, few places where occasionally 1-2 girls scandallo standard can be found. Even for black girls I would not say rio is that great. Nothing beats Madagascar in that regard. One of the last unspoiled destinations these days.[/QUOTE]Interesting that you mention Madagascar. I have never been, but I heard some good things about it. Is Nosy Be the place to stay or is it better to travel to other parts of the island?
I am also interested in Ethiopia a little. So, I have this fantasy trip in my head: BKK to Nos to ADD to BKK. What do you think? Crazy or worth doing?
[QUOTE=Combo;3077747][b]I think the appeal of Scandallo is the [u]holistic entertainment experience[/u]. [/b] A beautiful venue with live music, excellent food and drink, added to the sheer number of attractive women. The vibe can be incredible. [/QUOTE]This really sums it up and add Gauguin Club (although smaller) in similar category.
I think you summed it up well. I wouldn't describe the food as excellent in the sense that no one is going there primarily for it. The club has to keep the quality up to help justify the entry fee. I agree there is as many filler girls are there are top flight girls. Personally I would be more of a regular if it wouldn't cost me a good night's sleep every time. I've reached the age of regretting every hour of lost sleep.
[QUOTE=Combo;3077747]I've been to virtually all the major destinations in the world and there's no place where all the women are hot-looking. Scandallo is probably the best for quality X quantity combination, but there are plenty there I wouldn't pay one Real to bone.
I think the appeal of Scandallo is the holistic entertainment experience. A beautiful venue with live music, excellent food and drink, added to the sheer number of attractive women. The vibe can be incredible.
But there are some nights I don't want that experience. Sometimes a more laid-back venue fits my mood.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077611]What is your favorite Love Motel??
Do you pay the girls with credit card? Not worry about fees?[/QUOTE]Helpful tip: the no need to include entire post in reply, you can keep relevant bits and delete everything else. Use the preview post function to see before submit.
I did a review of Love motels in ROD.
Nope, not worried about the small card fees when paying garotas with my Mercado Libre Pago Visa Credit Card.
Last night I paid by card $1,300 BRL for two 21 year old loira MG garotas all night. Posted on the card statement was exactly $257.03 USD & no transaction fee, which I paid off the next morning. I have their real full names not their GDP name in case of issues later (shit missing) & receipt and six digits of their CPF and email address
The other card mentioned on this board reimburses ATM fees monthly, which has been nice to see every month.
For my card $1,300 BRL equals roughly $255.88 USD.
Base Amount: $255.88 USD.
Statement Total: $257.03 USD.
Estimated Fee Paid: $1. 15 USD.
Effective Fee Percentage: 0. 45%.
I did not worry about rushing to find bradesco bank lobby before closing, Santander card rejections, being a cash target by feckless motoboys, or silent e-bike favela lads in Copa.
$1. 15 USD fee.
In So Paulo I used to compile a list of 24 hour bradesco and Santader lobbies with. ATM addresses, most were in local neighborhoods around or outside moema. Now they have reduce those lobby hours. For security or lock up on local holidays. Rio still has 24 bradesco ATM lobbies, one is next to the military hqs in centro.
Highly recommend you pay garotas in CASH & have fun. And try to pay garotas after the deed. Once she has the cash you never getting it back. Don't feel bad if you give in & pay up front in Casarao. Once in casarao the garota gave me a cash refund. For a terrible drunken ass BJ & being wasted ass drunk.
I pay garotas directly and both of them equally, some guys exchange their USD dollars in scandallo to pay garotas or put on their garotas session on their card in Gauguin & Scandallo for very hefty house fee.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3077791]Helpful tip: the no need to include entire post in reply, you can keep relevant bits and delete everything else. Use the preview post function to see before submit.
I did a review of Love motels in ROD.
Nope, not worried about the small card fees when paying garotas with my Mercado Libre Pago Visa Credit Card.
[/QUOTE]Nice; thanks.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077770]Interesting that you mention Madagascar. I have never been, but I heard some good things about it. Is Nosy Be the place to stay or is it better to travel to other parts of the island?
I am also interested in Ethiopia a little. So, I have this fantasy trip in my head: BKK to Nos to ADD to BKK. What do you think? Crazy or worth doing?[/QUOTE]Well that's kinda similar what I am doing all the time. Ethiopian Airlines is pretty much the only option that gets you to NOS - They perfectly connect GRU-ADD-NOS-BKK-MNL-CGK etc. A round-the world sex-trip adventure. I personally skip BKK these days and go to MNL or Jakarta, but that's just personal preference. Never been to Ethiopia except transit. I don't think it's great. As a first timer Nosy be is recommended. Main island just too much hassle.
I can recall being with just one girl in Brazil who I knew for a fact was an actual working model (not just looking like one). That's her in the pictures all dolled up. I found her at the old Cafe Photo in Sampa. And I got her in her "brownie" (butt hole) too! The Cane posts pics of who and what he's been fucking. Then you can decide. She's a 10 or she's a 6. But I don't care what you think. Because I paid for that there tute and you didn't LMAO!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077770].. BKK ...[/QUOTE]Bkk is great, you will appreciate the safety of the place. Despite being a megapolis, you can walk in most areas without problem; I never had any, and I visited the place a lot of times, maybe like 20+. The well know place are gogo on nana plaza and soi cowboy, but the real fun is spread all around in the soi (street) you can walk all of them from soi 4 to soi 30 and probably more, there is thousand of p2 p place like tarmae, beer bar, massage, bjb shop, nuru, soapie, kapoo and all kind of p2 p place. There is an infinite number of restaurants with all kinds of food. There is also a lot of very interesting normal tourist places to visit. If you go there, it's simple: take a girls-friendly hotel in Sukumvitt by walking distance of Nana and Soi Cowboy (taxi are really cheap and safe, but the traffic jam are insane). Use the bts and metro (a ticket is like 1 $ but it close at midnight), have a budget of at least 10 000 tbh daily and you have the setting to have tons of funs in this place without risking to be murdered each time you walk outside past 7 pm.
I suggest you to create an account on [URL]https://bangkok-addicts.com/[/URL].
It's the best place I know to get info on BKK.
[QUOTE=Safado007;3077760]...el sp clubs had also better qualilty when I went first time pre-pandemic. In Colombia the same. Never went to Help in Rio, but I heart good things. Nowadays most rio clubs are trash, few places where occasionally 1-2 girls scandallo standard can be found. Even for black girls I would not say rio is that great. Nothing beats madagascar in that regard. One of the last unspoiled destinations these days.[/QUOTE]Because people are going in place for 2 main reasons, the girls and the party, but a lot are going there mostly or only for the girls. The pandemic boosted the tech development of everything, which allowed them to do business with minimal human interaction, so now I suppose the people who were going only for the girls can now easily call them directly without having to go to a club. The 3rd party of the transaction isn't a brothel or a pimp now but a software.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077662]No stones mate, but I think your expectations were perhaps set a little too high. No place on this Earth has 10's and 9's. ...[/QUOTE]Anyway, in a place like this, the cutest are rarely available. In my opinion a 10 is a grirls I would have a lots of difficulty to not looking at when in the same room as her, its a grisl who will instantly trigger the 'wow I want to fuck this girls now' and no only for me but for the majority of people attracted to womens. So if 100 dudes are in a room with her there is a big chance that the big majority of these guys are going to give her a 10 without hesitation. Tbh honest I never seen a girls like this in a sex place, I senn very cute and sexy girls, but a real 10. Maybe sometime in random place but when a 10 choose to sell her pussy she probably doesntt float a long time in a place like scandalo and she is proabably quickly in touch ful; time with people with a loke more then a 1000 $ budget.
Thanks, Safado. You nailed it! Planning ahead, I have been thinking about the "BIG TRIP" for some time. MIA or FPL to GRU to BKK or CGK back to MIA or FPL. Or vice a versa beginning in SE Asia.
Ethiopian Airlines to NOS opens up a very interesting world trip possibility. I will take your recommendation to heart. I like Jakarta too (a lot) and that town will definitely be on my itinerary, but good or bad, I still have to return to LOS and while I am in SE Asia a return to Phnom is definitely on the radar screen as well as more tentatively Makati and Macau (yeah I know both towns have become ridiculously expensive but I may have to pull the trigger on those two anyway.
[QUOTE=Safado007;3077920]Well that's kinda similar what I am doing all the time. Ethiopian Airlines is pretty much the only option that gets you to NOS - They perfectly connect GRU-ADD-NOS-BKK-MNL-CGK etc. A round-the world sex-trip adventure. I personally skip BKK these days and go to MNL or Jakarta, but that's just personal preference. Never been to Ethiopia except transit. I don't think it's great. As a first timer Nosy be is recommended. Main island just too much hassle.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3077636]First of all let me admit how insanely accurate were previous contributors when they were describing Scandallo and Casarao. Everything is true, including such little details like wall of purses and 20 min+ waiting lines in Casarao's next-door motel or the size of Scandallo's restaurant or their garota screening process. Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Looks like my posts about other mongering places get zero interest, let's see if my Scandallo experience gets more attention, hehehe.[/QUOTE]Excellent write-up. It's always fun to read first-time visit reports to Scandallo, and your detailed review was a great read. Keeping it real! You got the reaction you expected haha.
As others have said, the high regard of Scandallo here is really about the overall experience, not just the quality of the girls. You may have translated some of the rave reviews into expectations about a club full of models, but that's not the case. It's a combination of venue, quantity and quality. As a venue Scandallo is hard to beat. What is especially cool is that it's not an obvious gentlemen's club type of venue but more like a regular night club, where you actually have a shot with the hot chicks. Also hard to beat on quantity. That leaves quality, and you are right there is certainly a large contingent that are older and / or just "average". But with such a huge selection there are always some hotties. I've always been able to find at least 5-10 I would take to the room. On some nights it has admittedly taken a lot of scouting to find them.
So I totally relate to your comments on quality, but I get the feeling you didn't see the club at it's best either. Fridays are not the best night, and your arrival at midnight was likely a factor too, as many of the hot ones have been scooped up by then. A Thursday at 10 pm would have been ideal.
If the criteria is just quality, there are definitely other clubs that equal or beat Scandallo. This would be a great discussion topic. In South America I'd say Platinum Club in Santiago de Chile might be the top place for the hottest girls. It is very expensive but the quality was top shelf the two times I went, they have girls from all across South America. It's been many years since I was there though, I need to get back to see how it is today.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077925]I can recall being with just one girl in Brazil who I knew for a fact was an actual working model (not just looking like one). That's her in the pictures all dolled up. I found her at the old Cafe Photo in Sampa. And I got her in her "brownie" (butt hole) too! The Cane posts pics of who and what he's been fucking. Then you can decide. She's a 10 or she's a 6. But I don't care what you think. Because I paid for that there tute and you didn't LMAO![/QUOTE]Looks good. I would rate her 8 to 9. But since you fucked her in the butt I give her a 10.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077925]I can recall being with just one girl in Brazil who I knew for a fact was an actual working model [/QUOTE]Fantastic quality there Cane. No doubt in the top few % any of us have had. But it's not cool to post identifying photos like face pics. Come on dude, you know that.
Fully factual but in my opinion you underestimate the importance for some of all that is not the girl and what you do with her in the room. No reasonable person can honestly say it's all about the in room experience. I think this is why there are always comments about how great the food and atmosphere are. Based on my years of experience I don't know how else you justify the Scandallo formula.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3077636]Scandallo.
First of all let me admit how insanely accurate were previous contributors when they were describing Scandallo and Casarao. Everything is true, including such little details like wall of purses and 20 min+ waiting lines in Casarao's next-door motel or the size of Scandallo's restaurant or their garota screening process. Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Looks like my posts about other mongering places get zero interest, let's see if my Scandallo experience gets more attention, hehehe.
Scandallo:
1. Yes, they accept passport copy from the screen. Mine is photoshopped and my fake surname sounds funny in portuguese, but receptionist in Scandallo was the only person during this trip to notice it and laugh, and then use it as nickname at checkout.
2. Wear whatever you want. I didn't see crocs (cuzz it was +16 C), but I did see shorts, tourist pants and old shabby sport shoes. Dudes looked more like intercity autobus passengers, not like fancy club members. Garotas were dressed extra nice and chic of course...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Esten;3077952]Fantastic quality there Cane. No doubt in the top few % any of us have had. But it's not cool to post identifying photos like face pics. Come on dude, you know that.[/QUOTE]I already posted these before many moons ago, so too late. Already out there.
[QUOTE=Esten;3077937]If the criteria is just quality, there are definitely other clubs that equal or beat Scandallo. This would be a great discussion topic. In South America I'd say Platinum Club in Santiago de Chile might be the top place for the hottest girls. It is very expensive but the quality was top shelf the two times I went, they have girls from all across South America. It's been many years since I was there though, I need to get back to see how it is today.[/QUOTE]I have been to Santiago once. Have not heard about this club. Don't know if it's still operating. How was performance? We can move discussion to Santiago thread if you are interested.
[QUOTE=Esten;3077952]Fantastic quality there Cane. No doubt in the top few % any of us have had. But it's not cool to post identifying photos like face pics. Come on dude, you know that.[/QUOTE]We are not allowed to post facepics here? What about photos from website and whatsapp lineup?
Or it is a "moral" question? What veterans will say?
Cuzz I have a shitton of photos to illustrate my. Emmm. Findings!
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078028]We are not allowed to post facepics here? What about photos from website and whatsapp lineup? Or it is a "moral" question? What veterans will say? Cuzz I have a shitton of photos to illustrate my. Emmm. Findings![/QUOTE]There are no rules on this site against posting face pics obviously. You see them everywhere. It's just that some mongers are staunchly opposed to the practice. I have evolved over time. In the beginning, I did not hesitate to post face pics. But with time, I stopped doing that and only put up pics that showed no face (or identifying tattoos). Or, I would block out or blur the face. The recent ones you just saw, I actually had posted those here several years ago with face showing. They were already out here just as recently seen. So, I did not blur them. But for any new pics I take that I choose to post, the face will be out of view or blurred.
It is so difficult to read the fresh posts, because some of them appear in the middle of the page days later. I am constantly missing some posts and I am sure people are missing my posts too!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077662]I think your expectations were perhaps set a little too high. No place on this Earth has 10's and 9's. I don't know where you got that idea from. Maybe some BM's have posted a few inflated score numbers. I generally discount that kind of reporting. [/QUOTE]Yup, I got it from Scandallo conaisseurs from this thread. We say "divide everything said by 16" in Russian, hehehe. But I really expected some Hi-end chicks because of high-level pricing and described screening process. I mean why should I pay 600 rs for entry / consummation and 340 rs for room and 1500+ for garota in Scandallo when I can pay 150 rs /120 rs /700 rs for the same services respectfully in Casarao (if the girls are almost the same)? Only for vanity experience and sheer size of bar / restaurant / lounge area? I am not that vain. Not Cheap Charlie either, but I am ready to spend hundreds of dollars on sex with memorable garota, not on stupid champagne bottle.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077662]on a good night maybe 150 girls are present and out that pool roughly 7% to 10% are lookers or type 1 girls meaning that if I were to rate them on a point scale they would be 7. 5 to 8 stars for face and body. Then there are approximately another 7% to 15% that are what I think of as sexy girl next door types or Type 2 girls which translates on my point scale to approximately 6. 0 to 7. 5 stars. So, what I am trying to say is that on a good night between 10 pm and midnight roughly 20 to 40 girls are attractive to me. [/QUOTE]I totally agree with you, no problem with 7's or event 6's, no problem with GNDs, but not for 2500 rs total expenses!
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3077712]I'm curious Which country or place have you had the most beautiful girls & Mongering??[/QUOTE]Unironically it is Brazil. They come in all shapes and sizes, they have secret of eternal youth, they turning gata do mato in bed, they have general femininity and sex-appeal, affordable pricing, the list goes on. During every visit to Brazil I am satisfied on levels I couldn't even imagine. But now I am addicted and always crave more.
Number 2 is Thailand, too long to elaborate why. I also adore angelic face Venezolanas (not Colombians) and Cuban trigenya spinners (sadly not available anymore). No strong feelings to Romanian or Slavic girls. I do not click at all with black queens (I don't know why).
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077735]Speaking of falsehoods, who promised you that? Nobody here promised you that. [/QUOTE]Yeah, and we ironically or maybe not that ironically anymore call this thread "Scandallo thread", not "Sao Paulo thread". If you read last 200 pages as I honestly did, you will see only "ScandalloisthebestmodellevelbestintheworldScandalloisthebestmodelsScandallomodelsbestintheworld" discussion.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077735] Summing it up, what I and other seasoned Scandallo patrons have consistently said is that you will find a range of women on the stroll at Scandallo, with the bell curve most decidedly being skewed way more towards "fuckable" than "unfuckable".[/QUOTE]I agree with that, but again my point is "Yes, it is all true and good, but not 2500+rs total expences good". Especially with Casarao nearby, which is 3 x cheaper, but maybe 20% less good.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077735] Additionally, I am one who puts his pictures where his mouth is by posting photos of the kinds of girls I have found and fucked at Scandallo and other clubs. I'm not like most mongers who talk a lot about how hot she looks, but who never put up a single pic (or very rarely do to the point that you can't remember the last time they did). [/QUOTE]I see what you are meaning to say. I did not post the pic of my student friendly garota from Scandallo only because she refused to take selfie and her whatsapp does not have profile picture. I am also a "content" guy and always try to get some pictures and illustrate my "achievents". If you check my reports in Rio, Manaus and Panama city threads you will see that I always attach photos. My next post about Casarao visit will contain photos. As for Scandallo girl I saw some tictoc today and the girl is looking exactly like her. Same face and body type, so I attach her photos instead.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077735] But, the bottom line is that if you went to Scandallo expecting to find a bunch of model-quality tutes on the stroll all over the place, then that's a false expectation that you put inside of your own head yourself my fellow. May you have a better experience should you ever decide to try it again (I recommend fall and spring, according to North American seasons, as the best times to be in Brazil in general). [/QUOTE]Yes, I want to be wrong about Scandallo and return again in high season.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078028]We are not allowed to post facepics here? What about photos from website and whatsapp lineup?
Or it is a "moral" question? What veterans will say?
Cuzz I have a shitton of photos to illustrate my. Emmm. Findings![/QUOTE]There are a lot of weird men who silently hang out one internet sites like this on. Guys so weird that they are probably masturbating in their mother's basement to the otherwise rather harmless face photos provided in a previous post, but the context matters. I didn't know this in the good old days, so I used to post pics of all my girls in my early detailed trip reports until some pencil dick took one of my photos, found the girl in her Go Go, and showed her the photos. This naturally upset the girl and ruined our relationship. I felt real bad about it too because I like working girls and the last thing I want to do is hurt or cause distress to any of my girls.
So, for a while after this incident, I used to obscure the faces of my girls in the photos I posted, but I gave up on that approach too, because for me, the most important feature of a girl's physical look is her face. First, I look at the Face! So, I don't post pics anymore, period. I think the minimum standard should be: don't post private or public photos of your girls unless they have given you their express personal approval or unless you obscure their faces or their relationship to you. Context is important! Names should be kept private as well.
A. H.
P.S. I met a very attractive Sexy Revista cover girl / centerfold on MClass on my first visit to SP. Her centerfold pics did not do her justice. Anyway, she was very attractive and had a great body IMHO. We shagged 2 times that 1st trip before I flew back to RJ because the Termas had reopened and one of her clients flew her to Cancun. While I was still in RJ she texted me and said she could fly to RJ and spend a couple of days with me if I was up for it. It was a tempting offer, but I did not want to go into flight negations with her and I was more than happy with the Terma girls I was meeting and the Barra VIP girls I was still seeing so I turned her down. We did get together a couple more times on my 2nd trip to SP however, and I still follow her on Instagram where she continues to post pictures of herself (no pictures of her clients) in exotic locations in Brazil and elsewhere. At the time she sent me some photos of her Sexy Revista issue but I wanted more so after I returned home I went on Ebay and found a seller who had a mint copy of her Sexy Revista month photo spread. I still have it, in mint condition, in one of my Bureau Drawers. I am looking at now as I write this post. KKK!
[QUOTE=Esten;3077952]...... But it's not cool to post identifying photos like face pics. Come on dude, you know that.[/QUOTE]You are obviously new to ISG. Acquaint yourself and learn.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078057]
... As for Scandallo girl I saw some tictoc today and the girl is looking exactly like her. Same face and body type, so I attach her photos instead.
[/QUOTE]No offense, but all this flaming on people creating false expectations about Scandalo and you post 3 pictures of a girl who is celebrating her high school graduation as a reference of a girl you know who is working there. I seen this video and the girls is probably not 18 and she look great because of her teen body. Put her face on a 30-year-old girl like brothel are usually hiraing and she is not a 10 at all.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077662]Then comparing the average level of performance that I am used to getting in Scan which can vary from 6 stars, meaning I am happy to 9 stars meaning I am blown away to the average level of performance I have received from my BKK or Pattaya Go Go girls, it is kind of a joke. I mean in Thailand I have been with some great girls as good in bed as any Scandallo girls I have had, but most Go Go girls just do not come up to the Scan girl level of performance.[/QUOTE]You're right Axel. As far as sensuality and passion, Brasileiras bring it. For most, it's almost like pressing a button to start an engine. It's that easy.
On the other hand, Thai Go Go girls generally just kind of do the work. It's not they're pissed off or unwilling. They just aren't as passionate.
With some effort, I have turned on a Thai Go Go girl back at my place with charm and pleasure. Some of them never warm up.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078057]It is so difficult to read the fresh posts, because some of them appear in the middle of the page days later. I am constantly missing some posts and I am sure people are missing my posts too![/QUOTE]The moderators here have there hands full reviewing a lot of posts before releasing them. Several well-established members have been on moderation for as much as ten years.
It seems like being sentenced to moderation should have an expiration. Some of us had small infractions.
There are a few guys who are always getting in others' faces and permanent moderation makes sense for them.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078057]I see what you are meaning to say. I did not post the pic of my student friendly garota from Scandallo only because she refused to take selfie and her whatsapp does not have profile picture. I am also a "content" guy and always try to get some pictures and illustrate my "achievents". If you check my reports in Rio, Manaus and Panama city threads you will see that I always attach photos. My next post about Casarao visit will contain photos. As for Scandallo girl I saw some tictoc today and the girl is looking exactly like her. Same face and body type, so I attach her photos instead.[/QUOTE]My statement was not meant to imply anything specifically about you and what you do or don't do. It was more about me and what I do and don't do relative to most mongers on the site, generally speaking. Lot and lots of guys (the overwhelming majority) talk about how hot someone was who they banged but they never, ever post a single pic. Not nary a one. Not talking specifically about you or anyone really. Just generally speaking.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078055]There are no rules on this site against posting face pics obviously. You see them everywhere. It's just that some mongers are staunchly opposed to the practice. I have evolved over time. In the beginning, I did not hesitate to post face pics. But with time, I stopped doing that and only put up pics that showed no face (or identifying tattoos). Or, I would block out or blur the face. The recent ones you just saw, I actually had posted those here several years ago with face showing. They were already out here just as recently seen. So, I did not blur them. But for any new pics I take that I choose to post, the face will be out of view or blurred.[/QUOTE]I make exceptions for anybody doing porn, or who otherwise already has their pic all over the internet. In that case, their face is already out there anyway, so I see no need to blur or hide it.
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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3078153]You're right Axel. As far as sensuality and passion, Brasileiras bring it. For most, it's almost like pressing a button to start an engine. It's that easy.
On the other hand, Thai Go Go girls generally just kind of do the work. It's not they're pissed off or unwilling. They just aren't as passionate.
With some effort, I have turned on a Thai Go Go girl back at my place with charm and pleasure. Some of them never warm up.[/QUOTE]Yep, Brazilian girls bring passion to a whole nother level. They blow me away 555. Someone over in the Thai forum mentioned a pal of mine who I have not heard from (nobody has heard from) since 2021. It brought up old memories of the Go Go bar hoping we used to do together and I remembered the night we went by Rainbow 5 where I showed off my favorite Go Go girl of all time who used to work there. I affectionately used to refer to her as my "Atomic Blond" !
That girl shagged like a Brazilian girl! I swear to God and that was before I knew how Brazilian girls shagged. She was a natural Thai beauty in looks and a bombshell in bed. Definitely an exception to average Thai girl's moderate passion level in bed. I met her after she had just returned to Thailand from a year long visit in Japan where she had an American boyfriend. At the time I attributed her prowess and passion in bed to him. Lucky bastard.
This is all pre-covid ancient history, but she is still around and living in Phuket. She still looks good, has brunette hair, and hasn't gained any weight except for her newly attached silly cones. She's another one I still keep in touch with on Instagram so I may just look her up when I do the "Big Trip" in 2027 or maybe not. I'll have to see how I feel about it when I land in BKK.
Saturday Afternoon Visit to Reserva Lux (Vila Clementino, SP).
* Location: Rua Loefgren, 1438 Vila Clementino, Sao Paulo SP.
* Proximity: 5min Easy walking distance from Santa Cruz Metro / Shopping Santa Cruz.
* Price: are $ 250 to $269 BRL per girl + drinks.
📍 tip.
If you need a quiet spot to get stuff done beforehand, or afterwards head into Shopping Santa Cruz. They have an Espac Co-Working / Co working space free(basement level of metro) just walk in drop in take a seat or couch totally free:no reservations just a quiet space to catchup on stufg
* Free Wi-Fi, quiet spot, comfortable couches, tables, power outlets to charge your phone or laptop.
* Just a free, low-key spot to, plug in your charger, throw on earbuds, and catch up on VagabundonYouTube feed before heading over to the spa.
Reserva Lux is just a short stroll, downhill, 5min from the Santa Cruz station or 10 to 12!min uber ride from Moema. Their WhatsApp status actually features a cool little walking video showing the exact route from Santa Cruz Metr to their front door.
The Garotas (Tanya & Cacau).
I checked their WhatsApp status beforehand to look for (garotas novas) and spotted two cute ebony / morena girls: Tanya and Cacau.
* Tanya is GND type a curvier morena, the other Cacau is skinny / slim. Age 24 or or 25 yrs okd.
* Performance: Both are absolute top-tier deepthroat champs (zero gagging) and really know how to take great care of the boyz. High energy and great attitudes.
Photos: You can see their lineup on WhatsApp status or via their site at [URL]reservalux.com.br[/URL].
* The Rooms: surprisingly well-appointed, modern, and comfortablevery similar quality to Abbora or Lumina or (solid Gaguin-style rooms).
* Furnishings: Depending on the room, you'll get either a comfortable sofa / couch or a nice plush chair. A clean, well-furnished room makes a huge difference, and Lux delivers here.
* Perks: Complimentary coffee machine in the lobby serving espresso, cappuccino, and other hot drinks.
Accessible location, to Moema yes, at Lux i i sessioned in modern rooms, clean, good service from morena garotas for $ 250 brl
Definitely worth an afternoon visit if you keep an eye on wasssp status.
Thanks for this, you convinced me to check out Reserva Lux. One of the girls at Yankin told me she used to work there. You also inspired me to post some clinica reviews. I commit to get them up within the next few days. They will be repeats of my reports on gpguia but they are recent.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078183]Saturday Afternoon Visit to Reserva Lux (Vila Clementino, SP).
* Location: Rua Loefgren, 1438 Vila Clementino, Sao Paulo SP.
* Proximity: 5min Easy walking distance from Santa Cruz Metro / Shopping Santa Cruz.
* Price: are $ 250 to $269 BRL per girl + drinks.
📍 tip.
If you need a quiet spot to get stuff done beforehand, or afterwards head into Shopping Santa Cruz. They have an Espac Co-Working / Co working space free(basement level of metro) just walk in drop in take a seat or couch totally free:no reservations just a quiet space to catchup on stufg
* Free Wi-Fi, quiet spot, comfortable couches, tables, power outlets to charge your phone or laptop.
* Just a free, low-key spot to, plug in your charger, throw on earbuds, and catch up on VagabundonYouTube feed before heading over to the spa.[/QUOTE]
This re-post is my attempt to remove what I suspect triggered a flag by the mod, and simply express my opinion on posting identifiable information like uncensored face pics, which other posters have been allowed to post on.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3078119]You are obviously new to ISG. Acquaint yourself and learn.[/QUOTE]You are incorrect. I have been a member of this board and others for over two decades. And in that time I've learned a few things about basic respect in the P4 P ecosystem. The vast, vast majority of punters don't out girls publicly. 99%. Including here on ISG. The reason? It's simple, they know better. It is strange that a guy would go to great lengths to keep his personal info private (which I understand and do the same), but have no qualms about violating the privacy of the person on the other side of the transaction. In my book, outing a SW without their consent is just as bad as not paying for services rendered or being physically violent with them. Yep, that bad. You are potentially doing great harm to their future work prospects and personal relationships.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3078220]Thanks for this, you convinced me to check out Reserva Lux. One of the girls at Yankin told me she used to work there. You also inspired me to post some clinica reviews. I commit to get them up within the next few days. They will be repeats of my reports on gpguia but they are recent./QUOTE]Speaking of gpguia, do you become a forista after the first TD or, you need a certain number of TD's?
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3078152]No offense, but all this flaming on people creating false expectations about Scandalo and you post 3 pictures of a girl who is celebrating her high school graduation as a reference of a girl you know who is working there.[/QUOTE]Well, you asked me why I am giving fake name everywhere, and I wrote you a long detailed answer. But actually the answer could be this short: I am trying to stay as anonymous as possible because of people like you.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078161]My statement was not meant to imply anything specifically about you and what you do or don't do. It was more about me and what I do and don't do relative to most mongers on the site, generally speaking. Lot and lots of guys (the overwhelming majority) talk about how hot someone was who they banged but they never, ever post a single pic. Not nary a one. Not talking specifically about you or anyone really. Just generally speaking.[/QUOTE]I was not teasing or accusing you of anything, my remark was nothing but positive as I support you in willing to share the content and in encouraging other to do the same!
HOWEVER, it looks like I overestimated the general adequacy of some users in this topic, so unfortunately I would like to withdraw my promise to post pics of garotas in my future posts.
"A public effort to discourage members from posting information" of aforementioned users worked, so I will stick to numbers, addresses, prices and general ambience of the places I visited because I still want to contribute back.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078183]Clinica Review in Scandallo forum
Saturday Afternoon Visit to Reserva Lux (Vila Clementino, SP).[/QUOTE]You have to be brave to go off-topic!
But speaking seriously, spasibo comrade Tochka for such detailed report on new clinica! I believe it was never mentioned before in this thread. There are maybe hundreds of venues on SP but adventurous contributors like you do not stop to find new ones and visit them and post useful reports!
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078385]
You have to be brave to go off-topic!
But speaking seriously, spasibo comrade Tochka for such detailed report on new clinica! I believe it was never mentioned before in this thread. There are maybe hundreds of venues on SP but adventurous contributors like you do not stop to find new ones and visit them and post useful reports![/QUOTE]Comrade Safado,
ladies night at Hungry Duck was a real fcvking adventure. Kkk, it has its own wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hungry_Duck
magazine & tabloid reviews every week, international TV hosts from across the world interviewing patrons in the bar.. yelling ..Alice ..who the fcvk is Alice ?.. Rsrs
NightFlight was the equivalent of Scandallo, natural sexy beauties in luxury atmosphere, great dinner by swedish chefs., naming places equal to my beloved Scandallo ..
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3078152]No offense, but all this flaming on people creating false expectations about Scandalo and you post 3 pictures of a girl who is celebrating her high school graduation as a reference of a girl you know who is working there. I seen this video and the girls is probably not 18 and she look great because of her teen body. Put her face on a 30-year-old girl like brothel are usually hiraing and she is not a 10 at all.[/QUOTE]Hey if you don't have anything to add just keep mouth closed and don't post anything!
As a two decade monger who reads more than talks, I stand with you on this one brother.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3078483]Hey if you don't have anything to add just keep mouth closed and don't post anything![/QUOTE]It wasnt dumb, the pictures was pure bait. Go see the video. Its a girl who is partying at her high school graduation. I never seen a girl with a teen body and a baby face like this in a brothel especially latinas women. Its the type of face and body you can find in asian brothel if you are lucky.
Casarao experience.
Well, Casarao visits were more intense, but I will try to be short.
First of all it is really cool that it rolls until 5 am or even 5:30 am. I would say it reminds me of Rio's Casablanca on steroids (2021 version, not sad 2026 version), and maybe Dolce Vita (but not depressive as DV is). Garotas in Casarao are not 100% freelancers, they do have schedule.
Day 1. "Japonesa".
So I went there after my ambiguous visit to Scandallo, around 2 am Saturday. OMG it is packed af! The new underground section is huge, like really big, and it was full of people, you have to make your way using your elbows. It has a big designated smoking area (bigger than entire Casablanca club on Rio, LOL), so the air in main section was fresh. My only concern is fire safety, after all this videos about deathtraps clubs. . . Be careful friends, locate emergency exit first and stay close.
Nice music, hundreds of voices chatting, all sorts of garotas standing or drinking or hunting clients. You don't even have to buy a drink, nobody will demand it. Girls are. . . Well I would describe them as "Scandallo girls in more depraved and vulgar clothes". Ok, maybe 70% of Casarao garotas would fit in Scandallo with nicer dresses. You remember from my previous report that I was disappointed by Scandallo's lineup. Of course Casarao has more down-to-earth garotas, tattooed freaks, more fat, more old, too much bolt-ONS, more slutty, and definitely more sharky. Again, I saw 2 mulatas, no more. Most of garotas are brancas, European type loiras or morenas Latinas.
After 40 minutes of sipping my agua de coco and talking to some enthousiastic sharky 6's and 6,5's I hit technical jackpot. You might think that things were going slower because of late hour? Hell no! Fresh garota reinforcements kept coming and coming. Now I know that they were not fresh new garotas, thay were garotas returning from sessions with clients from motel next door.
So the new wave of reinforcements literally pushed me into short cute "Japanese". I had some strong desire to try a Japanese garota in Sao Paulo, because you know, Liberdade, museum of Japanese immigration, all this. And here we are, she later denied her Japanese origin, but she looks like JAV actress Hoshizora Moa on attached photo. I do have selfie with her, but will not post, call this a bait, I don't care. Yes, she is not 12/10 model that I was looking for, but she was definitely on my list, that's why it is a "technical" jackpot. Nicknamed Ana Biatriz.
Very nice and active conversation, she speaks good English, she is smart and fun and even provocative. Like she stares at your eyes and asks "Did you already have sex today with GDP? I know you did, safadinho! When I asked her how much clients she had today before me, the answer was 3. . . Oh boy, and she still keeps that bubbly attitude! Somehow she decided that we can discuss her experience with other clients, and I had to stop her a few times as I was interested only in statistics, LOL. She also could not stop to call me "baby" which I don't like, and I asked her not to, but she continued, so I scolded her and even hit her butt with a towel a few times later in motel.
Anyway, it was my 4th pop today, so I took her for 30 minutes only. She quoted 500 rs, I countered 400, she did not accept. At the entrance I pay my tab: agua de coco, gin tropical and entrance fee, total 154 rs. We go to next-door motel, where I see famous waiting line of aroused couples, and famous wall of purses, LOL. So now we are staying in that line and making up. The general atmosphere is similar to a waiting line of fans to enter music show or stadium for sport event, and not of putas and clients to enter short-time motel!
We got a new room for 30 minutes only for 90 rs. I like that pricing, comparing to Scandallo's! Especially when the room in Casarao turned out to be almost the same size and quality as Scandallo's. I am serious.
So, she is 25, her body is still nice, that slim but fertile Asian type. She insist that I use her special shower gel to wash myself. We did discuss BBBJ, she said "Well I was not going to do it, but if you ask, I'll do it! I don't remember anything extraordinary about BBBJ and action, but it was nice and in different positions. After that our conversation started to deep in personal matters, so we cut it as our time ran over.
Face 9, body 7, attitude 8, Casarao itself 9 overall.
Day 2. Sasha Grey.
Saturday is my last day in Sao Paulo. After a nice duplo session in Miruna Spa (described in previous post), I have only 750 reais in cash left, so no Scandallo for me today. I am not a crypro-bro and credit card juggler like some of fellow hobbyists here, so I don't want to use my CC for 2500+rs expenses.
Casarao again at 10 pm Saturday. I had my flight early next morning so I had to come this early. The club was maybe 20% full. Half of bar space was even closed with sliding door (it opens after midnight). Maybe 30-40 garotas and maybe 30-40 clients, but everybody kept coming slowly. Nothing interesting to me, 25-30 yo, silicone tits and asses, sharky attitude. There was one thicc redhead branca with very attractive face, who pretended to be intouchable and "different" by avoiding eye contact. So I spent maybe another 30 minutes trying to establish that contact, fighting off 6's sharks and waiting for another jackpot to show.
Walked around room with my caipirinha and ding! My eye catches another nice face, long hair, slim body. But wait, something is familiar. . . She smirks and scans the room with squinted eyes. . . That face. . . Those eyes. . . Everybody on planet Earth knows that face, that squint and that grin. Sasha Grey, gentlemen, or her twin sister. I am not exaggerating, I am not lying to show off. She refused to take selfie with me (which was wise, muehehhe) afterwards, and her photo from whatsapp looks like Sasha Grey from Wish, but in the gloom of the club -- she was her!
She was pretending that she does not see my piercing gaze as well. But I said Ola! And we clicked. She speaks okayish English, we mixed it with my okayish portugnol. She refused proposed drink and suggested we go upstairs, to the upper bar area, so we can speak with less noise. She speaks slowly and keeps smirking, so I am confused, whether she mocks me sarcastically, or just stoned. Because we discussed Canadian bears, canadian brothels, her hometown, my Brazilian ex, Canadian bears again. . . She took my baseball cap from me and put it on backwards. I am in awe, all I can see is Sasha Grey's face, eyes and smile. She knows. Later she pretended she does not know who Sasha Grey is, but she knows.
She quotes 700 rs for one hour. I am charmed, I have exactly 750 rs in my pocket left, so I don't bargain. Yeah, I can pay my tab and room with my CC this time. Tab (including entrance) was around 100 rs, room for one hour was 120 rs. No waiting line around midnight. We got room number 32, which was hard to find in the underground labyrinth. Room was smaller and not that new than previous one.
As you may expect I also did expect famous Sasha Grey's ass. Unfortunately no. Andrea has slim body, but not athletic. Everything is natural but is 27 yo. Still very pleasant to touch and squish. Action was also ambiguous. It was not crazy insane sashagrey-style fvcking, of course, but she did ask for some kinky stuff, came twice in cowgirl position, and was obedient overall. Unfortunately no famous sashagrey-style anal fvcking. BBBJ was included without discussing, but nothing special. We started slowly, so I had a little time between pops to recharge my batteries. When 5 minutes left she took her phone to check the time. I thought here we are, she will say tchao, time is out, ruining all experience, but she returned in quattro with stoned face and I quickly finished, squeezing her pelvic bones though marshmellow-soft ass cheeks.
- You know who you look like! - I said.
- I do not look like anybody, she replied.
Yeah, sure.
She did ask for money upfront by the way, and I gave her, that's how enchanted I was. She also may have tried to rummage in my shorts when I was in shower. Not sure 100% but she had nothing to do standing near my shorts hanged on the door hooks with her hands somewhere there.
Walk of shame to the entrance, tchao, cuidate, she returns to Casarao for another lucky customer. She knows. And I return to my hotel, pack my stuff and off I go to GRU. Satisfied, not going to lie.
As I said before, this trip was scarce in beauties, I would rate it 7/10 before Casarao, but after my personal "Japanese" and "Sasha Grey" I would give technical 8/10 to my trip to Brazil in Jully 2026.
Would definitely repeat Casarao. Would definitely repeat Scandallo. Dozens of places left unvisited. Still can't figure out what to do during the day in Sao Paulo. But I got one thing. This city is time devouring monster, that's why some of comrades have no problem to spend weeks here. Of course, when simple task like finding an open bank branch takes 4 hours and every move around the city takes 1 hour minimum, your days are busy. But not effective. In Rio I feel like relaxed gringo king, I have everything I need nearby, I can get anything quick at the snap of a finger. In SP I feel like poor beggar, like alien object in enormous unfriendly city.
Stay tuned, I will post some final report in Rio thread soon.
Afrodite Privé is Darkroom prive & Eden (Rio Centro Prive in Sao Paulo).
Rua Vergueiro, 2339 - Vila Mariana, São Paulo.
Date / Time: Tuesday afternoon around 3:00 PM.
Price: are $200 / hour.
Afrodite always showed up in wassap status. Decided to pay a visit.
Its Very small, cramped, high-density Eden or Darkroom privé setup.
Enter the address, its a small door in front of a busy newstand, walk up the stairs, through the doors, and BOOM<you are immediately transported into a classic Rio centro privé. It gives off heavy Eden or Vagabundo-style Darkroom prive feel to it. Wait is this VM? Kkk.
The place is small as shit.
At the top of the stairs, the garotas greet with you with the standard presentation kisses. Make no mistake: the garotas working here resemble women straight from Lojas Americana cashier, Bem Barato supermarket women. For a Tuesday afternoon at 3:00 PM, the place was unexpectedly packed, roughly 10 to 12 girls and about 10 guys jammed inside drinking. Mofos guys not a work on a Tuesday afternoon?
The place reminded me of the cashiers and female managers you'the see at the nearby lojas, or walking to Ana Rosa metro station nearby.
A tiny bar setup with just four stools and a couch / sofa arrangement (picture a mini Terma Monte Carlo bar, roughly one-tenth the size). The girls sit on the sofa couch around the bar area while you pick.
Reminiscent of the Rio Branco prives, lockers in hallway for the garotas to store their sundries, extremely tight hallways & rooms. And you'll constantly be passing other people just trying to get to the backroom.
The room had no toilet and a barely functional shower. Doors don't have proper locks, just a deadbolt, basic metal hook to keep it closed. The room itself is mostly taken up by a large bed (think Eden Spa or sliding-door style layout old Darkroo.
Drinks are cheap.
My pick was ok -looking lightskin morena wih glasses with an attitude. She wears broken cracked glasses while doing BJs. And gets pissed & offended when I mentioned it.
Garota go buy another $20 reais brl glasses urs are cracked. Her performance was way below average.
Be careful herethe garotas can definitely be sharky, so keep your wits about you.
Once the cramped, claustrophobic Rio privé nostalgia feeling faded I paid up and bounced over to the much more spacious clinica Yankin nearby, for Yankin, 19 year old to -25 garota lineup. Refreshing to leave behind Afrodite Prive.
Overall: 2/10. Okay for a quick, cheap drop-in if you're in the mood for Centro prive with cramped facilities.
Can someone please explain the entry fee structure of Gauguin? I failed to understand their tiers and I was charged 500 BRL. Is there special pricing like Scandallo 400 BRL before 19 hpm? I know they provide a QR code wrist band and how much is consumable?
Miruna is 250 if you write reviews on gp-guia, just search for jimmyboy98 and you can plagiarize his sissified nice guy, I will give you a massage first posts. Of course, most prive girls don't want 50 minutes of fucking per hour for 6 clients a day.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078591]Afrodite Priv is Darkroom prive & Eden (Rio Centro Prive in Sao Paulo).
Rua Vergueiro, 2339 - Vila Mariana, So Paulo.
Date / Time: Tuesday afternoon around 3:00 PM.
Price: are $200 / hour.
Afrodite always showed up in wassap status. Decided to pay a visit.
Its Very small, cramped, high-density Eden or Darkroom priv setup.
Enter the address, its a small door in front of a busy newstand, walk up the stairs, through the doors, and BOOM<you are immediately transported into a classic Rio centro priv. It gives off heavy Eden or Vagabundo-style Darkroom prive feel to it. Wait is this VM? Kkk.
The place is small as shit.
At the top of the stairs, the garotas greet with you with the standard presentation kisses. Make no mistake: the garotas working here resemble women straight from Lojas Americana cashier, Bem Barato supermarket women. For a Tuesday afternoon at 3:00 PM, the place was unexpectedly packed, roughly 10 to 12 girls and about 10 guys jammed inside drinking. Mofos guys not a work on a Tuesday afternoon?.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3078594]Can someone please explain the entry fee structure of Gauguin? I failed to understand their tiers and I was charged 500 BRL. Is there special pricing like Scandallo 400 BRL before 19 hpm? I know they provide a QR code wrist band and how much is consumable?[/QUOTE]Gauguin fees all go towards consumable. 350 before some hour I can't recall. Prob 7. And 500 after. But all consumable. So if you live it up and spend your $100 on food and drink you are all set.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078539]Casarao experience.
Well, Casarao visits were more intense, but I will try to be short.
First of all it is really cool that it rolls until 5 am or even 5:30 am. I would say it reminds me of Rio's Casablanca on steroids (2021 version, not sad 2026 version), and maybe Dolce Vita (but not depressive as DV is). Garotas in Casarao are not 100% freelancers, they do have schedule.
Day 1. "Japonesa".
Would definitely repeat Casarao. Would definitely repeat Scandallo. Dozens of places left unvisited. Still can't figure out what to do during the day in Sao Paulo. But I got one thing. This city is time devouring monster, that's why some of comrades have no problem to spend weeks here. Of course, when simple task like finding an open bank branch takes 4 hours and every move around the city takes 1 hour minimum, your days are busy. But not effective. In Rio I feel like relaxed gringo king, I have everything I need nearby, I can get anything quick at the snap of a finger. In SP I feel like poor beggar, like alien object in enormous unfriendly city.
Stay tuned, I will post some final report in Rio thread soon.[/QUOTE]Excellent report! You captured the feel of Casarao perfectly. I think Scandallo is the best venue in the world, but there are nights I much prefer the Casarao vibe. And nights where I'd like something different (more laid back) than either of those two.
Also agree that Rio is much easier, and more relaxed, you're on vacation. Everything in São Paulo seems inconvenient!
[QUOTE=Combo;3078685]Everything in Sao Paulo seems inconvenient![/QUOTE]I don't agree with this at all. I think it probably depends where you set up shop. I have always stayed in Moema, with a key reason for that being that it's so convenient! Lots of clinicas are in the neighborhood. There's restaurants, shopping, and plentiful ATMs (never had a problem getting money when I needed it). It's easy to get a taxi or Uber. Grocery stores & barbershops. Plenty of hotels and apartments to choose from. "Inconvenient" is definitely not a word I would use to describe Moema. Now, it can be a bit of a drive to get to some of the best nightclubs, but Sao Paulo is a huge city, and that's one of the trade offs for otherwise benefiting from other aspects of Moema that make it so convenient for day-to-day living. There is the airport noise issue, but you can successfully deal with that too by picking a hotel outside of the flight path. For my next trip, I will be staying in a different part of the city to have a different experience, so we'll see how I feel about this then. But because Moema works so well on so many levels (including being quite safe), I always recommend it for newbies looking to get their feet (and dick) wet for the first time in Sampa. If you know what you're doing, you can most certainly make Sao Paulo work for you!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078687]I don't agree with this at all. I think it probably depends where you set up shop. I have always stayed in Moema, with a key reason for that being that it's so convenient! Lots of clinicas are in the neighborhood. There's restaurants, shopping, and plentiful ATMs (never had a problem getting money when I needed it). It's easy to get a taxi or Uber. Grocery stores & barbershops. Plenty of hotels and apartments to choose from. "Inconvenient" is definitely not a word I would use to describe Moema. Now, it can be a bit of a drive to get to some of the best nightclubs, but Sao Paulo is a huge city, and that's one of the trade offs for otherwise benefiting from other aspects of Moema that make it so convenient for day-to-day living. There is the airport noise issue, but you can successfully deal with that too by picking a hotel outside of the flight path. For my next trip, I will be staying in a different part of the city to have a different experience, so we'll see how I feel about this then. But because Moema works so well on so many levels (including being quite safe), I always recommend it for newbies looking to get their feet (and dick) wet for the first time in Sampa. If you know what you're doing, you can most certainly make Sao Paulo work for you![/QUOTE]I agree with this as I also stayed in Moema. I'll add that I was five minutes from the Metro station since I didn't take any taxis nor Ubers. The airplane noise was manageable since I'm an early riser anyway and the flights end by midnight I think so still got decent sleep. It did take a long time to get from and to the airport all by Metro but was totally doable, cheap and traffic didn't affect my transits.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3078760]I agree with this as I also stayed in Moema. I'll add that I was five minutes from the Metro station since I didn't take any taxis nor Ubers. The airplane noise was manageable since I'm an early riser anyway and the flights end by midnight I think so still got decent sleep. It did take a long time to get from and to the airport all by Metro but was totally doable, cheap and traffic didn't affect my transits.[/QUOTE]Another plus for Moema is that if you're going to hop to another city like Rio or Floripa or wherever, and you intend to fly (I do this all the time), then you don't need to go all the way back out to Guarulhos (GRU) to get your flight. You can depart out of Congonhas (CGH) which is right there at your doorstep. This is when being next to CGH becomes a definite plus. Convenience! Now, why am I staying in a different part of the city next time? What was my reason? LOLOLOL!
[QUOTE=Combo;3078685]Excellent report! You captured the feel of Casarao perfectly. I think Scandallo is the best venue in the world, but there are nights I much prefer the Casarao vibe. And nights where I'd like something different (more laid back) than either of those two.
Also agree that Rio is much easier, and more relaxed, you're on vacation. Everything in So Paulo seems inconvenient![/QUOTE]Feeling that sea breeze is a big plus, and I get the "more relaxed" vacation vibe. SP is not a tourist town. But if girls are your "Raison d'être," RJ comes in a distant 2nd place compared to SP. IMHO.
As to SP neighborhoods to hang my hat: Moema has its advantages being closer to the clinicas and having less expensive hotels, but I prefer Itaim Bibi which is midway between most of the clinicas and Scandallo & Casarao and has a slew of great restaurants. Fuck, Bomboa is 2 blocks from 2 of my repeat Itaim Bibi hotels. In addition, since my visits to SP are always for 4 weeks and longer, I like to change hotels every 5 to 7 days. It amazes me how a change in location / neighborhood actually matters and helps keep things fresh and interesting.
Has anyone been to Corpusterapia in Jardim Paulista?
My hotel will be within walking distance, just want to know if its worth the visit.
Mayme Comrade Tochka has been there already.
I did the search on the site and last mention of this place is years back.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078004]I have been to Santiago once. Have not heard about this club. Don't know if it's still operating. How was performance? We can move discussion to Santiago thread if you are interested.[/QUOTE]Posted in Santiago. TLDR: Upscale gentleman's club a bit bigger than Gaugin, very expensive, up to 40-50 chicas, chica quality was high, overall does not beat Scandallo!
At Max Mojo: thanks.
If your airport transfer is anytime near morning rush hour (as most Europe or North America arrivals are) the metro is going to be at least an hour faster than taxi or ride share app.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3078760]I agree with this as I also stayed in Moema. I'll add that I was five minutes from the Metro station since I didn't take any taxis nor Ubers. The airplane noise was manageable since I'm an early riser anyway and the flights end by midnight I think so still got decent sleep. It did take a long time to get from and to the airport all by Metro but was totally doable, cheap and traffic didn't affect my transits.[/QUOTE]
Staying in Moema is perharps the best option indeed. But only if you want to visit daytime clinicas and go outside the district after midnight on Uber.
However I find hotels in Moema too pricey for me. And if you want to explore other parts of Scandallo-city (formerly known as Sao Paulo), you have to deal with all aforementioned problems.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078777]Feeling that sea breeze is a big plus, and I get the "more relaxed" vacation vibe. SP is not a tourist town. But if girls are your "Raison d'tre," RJ comes in a distant 2nd place compared to SP. IMHO.
As to SP neighborhoods to hang my hat: Moema has its advantages being closer to the clinicas and having less expensive hotels, but I prefer Itaim Bibi which is midway between most of the clinicas and Scandallo & Casarao and has a slew of great restaurants. Fuck, Bomboa is 2 blocks from 2 of my repeat Itaim Bibi hotels. In addition, since my visits to SP are always for 4 weeks and longer,
Nice. That's almost as much as I've spent in aggregate over many trips. I usually spend more time in Rio.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3078676]Gauguin fees all go towards consumable. 350 before some hour I can't recall. Prob 7. And 500 after. But all consumable. So if you live it up and spend your $100 on food and drink you are all set.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, even the room fee counts towards the entry fee. I have I been there only 2 times so not 100% sure.
[QUOTE=Combo;3078838] Nice. That's almost as much as I've spent in aggregate over many trips. I usually spend more time in Rio.[/QUOTE]I am lucky in that I can work anywhere there is a reliable internet connection. I couldn't do that 25 years ago. If your job keeps you in your home base most of the time, all I can say is stay with it, work hard, make lots of money and put it away into solid investments so it will be there and then some when you retire. There is nothing like being free, unchained and in good health.
Santa Cruz / Vila Mariana: private house: Fadas do Amor.
If you are looking for 19 and 20 year nubile redheads nearthe Santa Cruz metro here is a detailed rundown of a hidden spotthat is well worth checking out.if you got confidence
Address: are. Joel Jorge de Melo, 749 - Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP, 04128-081.
The establishment operates as a two-story walk-up, it called Fadas do Amor.
When I reachied out via WhatsApp to book or inquire about the lineup foto specifically targeting providers like Tiffany, Grazi, Mari, and Mav. Their immediate response when messaged was, "How did you get this fucking number?
How you know us? I said go-guia they replied bullshit they don't do foristas. Or gp-guia. kkk
L.
The pricing structure is straightforward, offering great value depending on the duration of your stay:
Standard Booking Fee / Base Rate: $330.
Half-Hour Rate: $220.
Full-Hour Rate: $320.
The line-up includes stunning 19-year-old redheads and 21 yearvold fresh morenas. They used to work in casarao but prefer the rooms & steady clients. The garota are same level ad casarso cheaper prive, better rooms, they decided to let you or not when you ring the buzzer. So dont cry to me if they dont let u in.to hidden spot..lThe overall experience was so solid that I ended up extending my visit and staying for a full three hours to bang two nubile 19 year fresh branca red heads
No english porto only .. place hidden away in townhouse. now ya know.. if u in metro santa cruz area (its opposite direction spa Lux check check mapgp)
there are two more houses with decent garotas for $190 brl one hour near villa marina metro, check mapgp
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078852]there are two more houses with decent garotas for $190 brl one hour near villa marina metro, check mapgp[/QUOTE]Mapagp is crazy good for clinicas. I added 30 clinicas phone numbers to get on their WhatsApp status in less than 10 minutes. So fast that WhatsApp thought I was spamming and block my use for 24 hours.
There is a companion website for GP reviews which can be filtered. It's low number of reviews now but definitely promising. For those who like numbers. I searched for 18-24 year old, skinny who do anal and got 6 GPS. At prime 46% of TDs had anal while 61% anal at Patrão. Damn. Brazilians love their butts.
[URL]https://resenhagp.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078763]Another plus for Moema is that if you're going to hop to another city like Rio or Floripa or wherever, and you intend to fly (I do this all the time), then you don't need to go all the way back out to Guarulhos (GRU) to get your flight. You can depart out of Congonhas (CGH) which is right there at your doorstep. This is when being next to CGH becomes a definite plus. Convenience! Now, why am I staying in a different part of the city next time? What was my reason? LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]That's right! I never even thought of using this domestic airport for flight transfers between Rio and SP (as well as other cities in Brazil in the future). Will save the hour of Metro transit each way.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3078910]That's right! I never even thought of using this domestic airport for flight transfers between Rio and SP (as well as other cities in Brazil in the future). Will save the hour of Metro transit each way.[/QUOTE]It's a crappy airport. But, I much prefer to put up with it versus going all the way back out to Guarulhos for a relatively short domestic flight.
Welp I hit the jackpot. I have had 6 trips to SP and have tried to zap her 5 of those trips. This time she responded. We corresponded for a month before I came and set up a date. She says she is very selective of who she will see. She is still under contract with mambo but only does fetish scenes no more gonzo. She doesn't like it, it's hard getting crushed like that.
She is tiny, and just like her films. She had a short mini skirt dress with a special thong that basically just went to either side leaving her pretty much commando in the middle. She didn't wait till the room. She kissed me in the elevator and rubbed my crotch over my jeans. She attacked me in the room for some of the most passionate fucking I have done. I usually can't get 3 pops and that third one had us sweating and I told her it isn't happening but she was a trooper and fucked the shit out of me until she got it.
If you love tiny spinners like I do, she is that unicorn you are always looking for.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3078910]That's right! I never even thought of using this domestic airport for flight transfers between Rio and SP (as well as other cities in Brazil in the future). Will save the hour of Metro transit each way.[/QUOTE]Much preferable to use local airports SDU and CGH when traveling between Rio and São Paulo. Both those airports are significantly closer to where you're likely staying than the cities' respective international airports.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3078676]Gauguin fees all go towards consumable. 350 before some hour I can't recall. Prob 7. And 500 after. But all consumable. So if you live it up and spend your $100 on food and drink you are all set.[/QUOTE]I think the lower entry is before 9 pm, at least that was the case when I visited on a Monday a couple of months ago. One other time I visited after 9 pm, they had a cheaper are $R200 option that includes no consumption. I don't know if the cheaper entry option is available before 9 pm.
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3078839]If I remember correctly, even the room fee counts towards the entry fee. I have I been there only 2 times so not 100% sure.[/QUOTE]If this is true, then it would be unique to this boete. The other popular boetes (Scandallo, Bamboa and Casarao) I had visited don't count room fee towards consumption.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078833]Staying in Moema is perharps the best option indeed. But only if you want to visit daytime clinicas and go outside the district after midnight on Uber.
However I find hotels in Moema too pricey for me. And if you want to explore other parts of Scandallo-city (formerly known as Sao Paulo), you have to deal with all aforementioned problems.[/QUOTE]My experience, in Moema, I use airbnb or booking to search monthly rate for condo apartment with kitchen, laundry, gym, bathroom, pool, double paned windows, dedicated workstation or, coworking spotwifi
I expand search beyond scandallo city to itam, brooklyn, vila marina, santa cruz, ipiranga, barra funda, etc I book for 2000 brl to 3000 brl reais (maximum) incl taxes for 30 day stay. Booking has genius discount. Airbnb has discount on monthly rates. for 4000+ or 4 mil+ you can get a luxury apt in pinheros monthly rate. I message the property manager on airbnb & booking to ask for an additional 10 percent discount below whatever the various apps are quoting. there are tons of studio or one bedroom apts. in the area. i care about reduced airplane noise, midway point to many places to not get stuck in traffic on rainy days, garota friendly? --nope dont care, close to metro -- nope dont care, bringing hoes to my secure apt is not a priority or important to me..no issue to 20 min uber to scandallo, 10
min to Scandallo lite (Gauguin)Caster club,Connection, clinicas, prives, boates, CGH to SDU, luxury onibus Bus terminals to Rio Janeiro 150 brl to 250 reaus Yes ,dont care list-- Bomboa, Cafe foto went once to each dont care , wake up each morning knowing me stuff is safe passport, iphone, emergency cash, laptop, is safe & secure
which is my preference yours may be different
Because pricing is cheaper 2500 to 3500 brl for a month I don't give a damn if I only stay a few weeks and bounce.
[QUOTE=Azzazelo;3078800]Has anyone been to Corpusterapia in Jardim Paulista?
My hotel will be within walking distance, just want to know if its worth the visit.[/QUOTE]It's in a well-known apartment building on rua Batataes with other incall places as well. Basic apartment setup not a fancy clinica. They try to be discrete though. The building requires ID at the lobby desk and sometimes you can finagle out of this, but don't count on it.
There is a girl on the Corpus website I would recommend: Jessica. Her photo is at least 5 years old. She worked under another name for several years off and on at different clinicas. I saw her at two of them and she also came to my hotel once. I had lost track of her since. She can be tough to book but is a pleasant person and orally gifted with no gag reflex. One of the best BJ I've had in SP, which is why I saw her three times kkk. I'd recommend Jessica if you like a skilled bbbjdtcim.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078852]Santa Cruz / Vila Mariana: private house: Fadas do Amor.
If you are looking for 19 and 20 year nubile redheads nearthe Santa Cruz metro here is a detailed rundown of a hidden spotthat is well worth checking out.if you got confidence
Address: are. Joel Jorge de Melo, 749 - Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP, 04128-081.[/QUOTE]Thank you again for finding and testing new spots!
Mr. Tochka may I ask you some questions?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078852]The establishment operates as a two-story walk-up, it called Fadas do Amor. When I reachied out via WhatsApp to book or inquire about the lineup foto specifically targeting providers like Tiffany, Grazi, Mari, and Mav. Their immediate response when messaged was, "How did you get this fucking number? How you know us? I said go-guia they replied bullshit they don't do foristas. Or gp-guia. kkk [/QUOTE]Can you tell us where did you get their number? If it really was gpguia, why they denied it?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078852]"How did you get this fucking number? How you know us? I said go-guia they replied bullshit they don't do foristas.[/QUOTE]If they started this conversation with aggression and accusation, how did you managed to finally get there? I have been cut off last minute from such paranoidal casas (in Lima, Peru), almost at the door, they chat with you normally, show you lineup and prices, but then just block you without explanations.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078852] I said go-guia they replied bullshit they don't do foristas.[/QUOTE]Do you write reviews and ask for forista discount in clinicas? I believe you mentioned this a lot of pages ago, I can't find it.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3078852] they decided to let you or not when you ring the buzzer. So dont cry to me if they dont let u in.to hidden spot..l
. . .
No english porto only .. place hidden away in townhouse. now ya know..[/QUOTE]If they are so "hidden" and paranoid about new clients who do they cater for? Who is their clientelle if they don't advertise? I mean for example Eden in Rio is everywhere on internet and on the streets, heh. Moema Prime is everywhere too.
Well, they are marked on googlemaps and have 2,4 star ratings LOL.
Thank you in advance!
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3078964]Thank you again for finding and testing new spots!
Mr. Tochka may I ask you some questions?
Can you tell us where did you get their number?
Well, they are marked on googlemaps and have 2,4 star ratings LOL.
Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]Comrade Safado, Salve, confrades!
During day time visits across the city I open mapagp, hit use my local location, then BOOM< view what the heck is around me.
Some prives, private houses, love motels are located nearby to well reviewed clinicas (Tangara, Miruna, Lux) and boates (scandallo, Scandallo lite Gaugin) I pick a nearby prive to visit and review.
I have two local Brazilian phone numbers on WhatsApp account. I switch between 11 So Paulo, and 21 Rio de Janeiro phone numbers, whatsapp profile is private no foto, nada, so when I first start the chat I could be any local guy.
I set my AI translator to "Brazilian Local Dude Mode" to use Paulistano & zapzap slang:
"vc tbm? Blz? Top obg ".
Now getting in. My clothes are, bermudas, chinelos, black tenis, black shirt, shirt worn outside of pants not tucked in, various girlfriends made damn sure I dress not to stand out while going to shopping lojas kkkk.
If I don't speak nothing to nobody I pass as local guy. The girlfriends made sure of this! .
In this case I walked up to their townhouse. Two Asian guys were leaving, held the door open, I walked in. The reception guy was completely nice guy. We got along well. I was enthralled with lineup I forgot to ask about our zap convo. Spent three hours there. The other prive had garotas for $180 brl an hour.
I should have used the word discrete house / prive rather than hidden.
Discreet townhouse (priv) near Metro stations or walking distance are. Easy to map out on MapaGP using real-time location while moving around the city and opens up another frontier to checkout
The brancas & morenas garotas used to work at Casaro but prefer, better rooms, steady clients, lower profile working in a priv.
Fala, confrades that ask what to do in day time?? For guys that don't know what to do in daytime go try out a prive or two. And write a review.
[QUOTE=LvHobby;3078919]Welp I hit the jackpot. I have had 6 trips to SP and have tried to zap her 5 of those trips. This time she responded. We corresponded for a month before I came and set up a date. [/QUOTE]Hey LV, can I ask where you contacted her? The twitter I found had less than a thousand followers, and the instagram maybe 1,600, and neither looked active so I was skeptical it was even her. I wasn't sure if she was even still doing porn.
[QUOTE=LvHobby;3078919]Khali Noire
Welp I hit the jackpot. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=JZeleznik;3078984]Hey LV, can I ask where you contacted her? The twitter I found had less than a thousand followers, and the instagram maybe 1,600, and neither looked active so I was skeptical it was even her. I wasn't sure if she was even still doing porn.[/QUOTE]I second the question. She is just straight my ideal 12/10 fetish.
Any info, comrade LvHobby?
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3078984]Hey LV, can I ask where you contacted her? The twitter I found had less than a thousand followers, and the instagram maybe 1,600, and neither looked active so I was skeptical it was even her. I wasn't sure if she was even still doing porn.[/QUOTE]She doesn't do hardcore gonzo anymore but is still shooting. She started a shoot later the day we met and I tried to see her one last time before I left but she just got back to me and said she had been very busy so something is coming out. She mentioned smoking and another fetish. I told her I am flying her to Vegas to spend a longer period with her and she said she would be up for it.
She lists her number on fatalmodel but she said she is selective and I just got lucky. Just keep trying her. Seems she pops on there when she needs quick cash and she is very careful (initially she wouldn't let me get an Uber to pick her up because it would show where she lived near). I can understand being in porn you may get stalkers.
Gpguia has plenty of recent reviews. It would be ideal if the resenhagp search and filter could be deployed on gpguia.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3078868]Mapagp is crazy good for clinicas. I added 30 clinicas phone numbers to get on their WhatsApp status in less than 10 minutes. So fast that WhatsApp thought I was spamming and block my use for 24 hours.
There is a companion website for GP reviews which can be filtered. It's low number of reviews now but definitely promising. For those who like numbers. I searched for 18-24 year old, skinny who do anal and got 6 GPS. At prime 46% of TDs had anal while 61% anal at Patro. Damn. Brazilians love their butts.
[URL]https://resenhagp.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LvHobby;3079046]She doesn't do hardcore gonzo anymore but is still shooting. She started a shoot later the day we met and I tried to see her one last time before I left but she just got back to me and said she had been very busy so something is coming out. She mentioned smoking and another fetish. I told her I am flying her to Vegas to spend a longer period with her and she said she would be up for it.
She lists her number on fatalmodel but she said she is selective and I just got lucky. Just keep trying her. Seems she pops on there when she needs quick cash and she is very careful (initially she wouldn't let me get an Uber to pick her up because it would show where she lived near). I can understand being in porn you may get stalkers.[/QUOTE]The ad on fatalmodel is 750 for 30 minutes, and 1250 for an hour. Did you really pay that?
Absolutely, and it's normally the cheaper option on expedia and similar consolidation travel sites. The convenience can't be beat. Now that the serious safety problems have gotten attention the only real drawback to CGH is how crazy overcrowded it is. If you must use GRU do whatever you can to avid that morning rush hour hell.
[QUOTE=Combo;3078924]Much preferable to use local airports SDU and CGH when traveling between Rio and So Paulo. Both those airports are significantly closer to where you're likely staying than the cities' respective international airports.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CurtisAndreas;3079111]The ad on fatalmodel is 750 for 30 minutes, and 1250 for an hour. Did you really pay that?[/QUOTE]How did you find her profile on Fatal? Can you share the link please?
[QUOTE=CurtisAndreas;3079111]The ad on fatalmodel is 750 for 30 minutes, and 1250 for an hour. Did you really pay that?[/QUOTE]I can't speak for LV, but 1,250 R for her seems more than reasonable. Any good looking girl at Scandallo is asking 1,500 R, and even Casarao is up to 800-1,000 for the top tier talent.
I love getting a deal and my favorite girl at the moment is 300 R / hour and 800 R for an overnight, but the realities of the market are what they are.
If you can share the link, it'd be appreciated.
Edit: Found it https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/2127867/khali-2127867
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3079144]I can't speak for LV, but 1,250 R for her seems more than reasonable. Any good looking girl at Scandallo is asking 1,500 R, and even Casarao is up to 800-1,000 for the top tier talent.
I love getting a deal and my favorite girl at the moment is 300 R / hour and 800 R for an overnight, but the realities of the market are what they are.
If you can share the link, it'd be appreciated.
Edit: Found it https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/2127867/khali-2127867[/QUOTE]The body on the picture look like a 6-7 and the face she look like a tranny. It help to understand why price are so high in SP if people are promoting girl like this for 1250 because she recorded a few video and publish them on some porn website.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3079223]The body on the picture look like a 6-7 and the face she look like a tranny. It help to understand why price are so high in SP if people are promoting girl like this for 1250 because she recorded a few video and publish them on some porn website.[/QUOTE]I agree, but people have different taste and some are really into the porn "star" thing.
I didn't know who she was and I'd much rather score a university student or a lawyer like the one I took back to my hotel for an allnighter from 4*4 for 500 reais.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3079144]I can't speak for LV, but 1,250 R for her seems more than reasonable. Any good looking girl at Scandallo is asking 1,500 R, and even Casarao is up to 800-1,000 for the top tier talent.
I love getting a deal and my favorite girl at the moment is 300 R / hour and 800 R for an overnight, but the realities of the market are what they are.
If you can share the link, it'd be appreciated.
Edit: Found it https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/2127867/khali-2127867[/QUOTE]1.5 is the asking price in Scandallo but for me they all accepted 1 k.
I don't really see the need to pay more than that.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3079223]The body on the picture look like a 6-7 and the face she look like a tranny. It help to understand why price are so high in SP if people are promoting girl like this for 1250 because she recorded a few video and publish them on some porn website.[/QUOTE]She definitely looks way worse on Fatal profile. I might skip her if I saw this ad. The porn videos where she is cute are made 4 or 5 years ago. She could have hit the wall or just gain weight or became alcoholic or drug addict.
Comrades, how do you find specific profiles on Fatal? I can't find search bar which allows to search by model name, only by city and barrio.
[QUOTE=Esten;3078955]It's in a well-known apartment building on rua Batataes with other incall places as well. Basic apartment setup not a fancy clinica. They try to be discrete though. The building requires ID at the lobby desk and sometimes you can finagle out of this, but don't count on it.
There is a girl on the Corpus website I would recommend: Jessica. Her photo is at least 5 years old. She worked under another name for several years off and on at different clinicas. I saw her at two of them and she also came to my hotel once. I had lost track of her since. She can be tough to book but is a pleasant person and orally gifted with no gag reflex. One of the best BJ I've had in SP, which is why I saw her three times kkk. I'd recommend Jessica if you like a skilled bbbjdtcim.[/QUOTE]Thank you for feedback and recommendation. Who doesn't like skilled bbbjdtcim.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079233]1.5 is the asking price in Scandallo but for me they all accepted 1 k.
I don't really see the need to pay more than that.[/QUOTE]Mind if I ask how recently you've been? My general policy is to make an offer rather than asking for a price, and I have had significantly more pushback on my most recent trip at 1 k. I've had girls pout a bit if they didn't like the offer, but on this trip I've actually had them walk which was unheard of for me prior. I've also had them offer to meet me outside on a different day for less, but in the club 1. 5 k seems like a much firmer line.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3079262]Mind if I ask how recently you've been? My general policy is to make an offer rather than asking for a price, and I have had significantly more pushback on my most recent trip at 1 k. I've had girls pout a bit if they didn't like the offer, but on this trip I've actually had them walk which was unheard of for me prior. I've also had them offer to meet me outside on a different day for less, but in the club 1. 5 k seems like a much firmer line.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there was early 2025. At that time, most Scandallo girls would ask for R1,500, but most would quickly come down to R1,200. I talked to one branca who must have thought her shit didn't stink because she quoted R3,000 which was a non-starter. She came down to R2,500 but with all kinds of restrictions. Nope! I didn't see her dumb, greedy ass go with anyone all night. I despise attractive brancas who think they're entitled to an outrageous premium just because they're brancas. I'm sure she didn't last long on the stroll. Given the current exchange rate, I think the right price at Scandallo should be from R1,000 to R1,200. That's what I will be offering during my return later this year.
So I arrive to SP in the morning and uber to my Airbnb in Moema. I had already booked a date with a seeking SB for the night. Let's call her L, she's in her late twenties.
I had already vetted her through her social media, L holds a regular well paying job and has a presence on social media, so to say influencer.
She Ubers to me at 9 PM (rare BTW most girls ask me to uber them) we get into the Airbnb, some chitchat she speaks some English and then we go to bedroom for fun.
I'd rate her body 8, face 7, action 9. Paid her 2000 reais I knew I overpaid but it was BBFS and I nutted in her bean hole. So that's that. I'm stupid for paying this, as soon as I was done she got dressed. Ok fine I didn't want to make a scene.
As the night was young I decide to go to Scandallo. Get there and as soon as I walk in I feel a lot of female stares immediately on me. I don't think I've ever experienced it before in my life. Anyway I spent the whole night wandering between the terrace open space area and the club area, observing, occasionally chatting with aggressive garotas.
Quotes were between 2-3 k. I saw 8's maybe a few but all occupied, a few 7's, 6's etc.
All races and sizes, and shapes you can imagine though mostly brancas or pardas.
So I as I was resting on the couch between the club and the terrace area one garota came and sat down close to me and we start chatting as I feel her up. I wasn't really into her and she quoted 2 k. I said 1 k and she came down to 1,5 k.
I said my offer is 1 k and vc me the o see you and told her to think about it, she left.
Then I wandered around until 4 am talking to different garotas, getting quotes, while drinking my agua de coco.
I was seemingly tired and was about to leave around 4:30 am without action as I wasn't willing to spend 2 k for one hour of covered sex with WG.
As I was leaving the garota I offered 1 k finds me and says she though about my offer and agrees. I didn't really want to session with her to be honest but I said fuck it let's do it. So up we go and pay for room I think 360 or something like that I don't remember. As I am paying for room and my entry fee which was 600 of which 400 is consumação the receptionist asks if I want to pay for her drink which is 480 reais. My stupid ass couldn't say no because I apparently I'm a nice moron.
In the room she tried different apps for me to pay with card for like 15 minutes I almost got pissed. So it was BBBJ, covered FS, and some Greek action but holy shit it wasn't fun without lube. Was I supposed to bring my own lube??
I came in Greek style, and decided I wanted to go home.
So total damage.
600 entry with consumption included.
1000 garota (she charged me 1020) because of card fee.
480 her drinks (which how do you guys say no to paying this rip off?
Room was like 360 (I might be wrong).
Overall, wasn't worth it (the session) but the overall experience of it since it takes so long to get to Brazil.
It was an expensive day for me but it's a learning curve for me since it was my first day ever in SP and scandallo.
I'm here till next Monday 8/17.
So if any of you fellow gentlemen want to grab a beer or two DM me.
I'm staying in Moema, I'd love to socialize with someone.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3079262]Mind if I ask how recently you've been? My general policy is to make an offer rather than asking for a price, and I have had significantly more pushback on my most recent trip at 1 k. I've had girls pout a bit if they didn't like the offer, but on this trip I've actually had them walk which was unheard of for me prior. I've also had them offer to meet me outside on a different day for less, but in the club 1. 5 k seems like a much firmer line.[/QUOTE]I was there in March 2026.
You obviously know what you're talking about and have done the research so my guess would be that we might have negotiated with different types of women.
I definitely see some of them appear to be wanting a higher price. I had one tall woman talk about how she worked as a model in Sevilla and she probably wouldn't have settled for 1 k. But she wasn't my type and I was quite surprised when she claimed to be a model. It made me think of Drake's "don't tell me that you model if you haven't been in Vogue". I guess she had the body but not the face.
She quoted R3,000 which was a non-starter. She came down to R2,500.
Unfortunately they got many tricks that are happpy to indulge for that price range.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3079238]She definitely looks way worse on Fatal profile. I might skip her if I saw this ad. The porn videos where she is cute are made 4 or 5 years ago. She could have hit the wall or just gain weight or became alcoholic or drug addict.
Comrades, how do you find specific profiles on Fatal? I can't find search bar which allows to search by model name, only by city and barrio.[/QUOTE]In the section filtro, there is a box named Busca por termos. The name work in this box.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3079262]Mind if I ask how recently you've been? My general policy is to make an offer rather than asking for a price, and I have had significantly more pushback on my most recent trip at 1 k. I've had girls pout a bit if they didn't like the offer, but on this trip I've actually had them walk which was unheard of for me prior. I've also had them offer to meet me outside on a different day for less, but in the club 1. 5 k seems like a much firmer line.[/QUOTE]Yup, I had similar experience.
[QUOTE=GeekAuto;3079281]I'd rate her body 8, face 7, action 9. Paid her 2000 reais I knew I overpaid but it was BBFS and I nutted in her bean hole. So that's that. I'm stupid for paying this, as soon as I was done she got dressed. Ok fine I didn't want to make a scene.
As the night was young I decide to go to Scandallo. Get there and as soon as I walk in I feel a lot of female stares immediately on me. I don't think I've ever experienced it before in my life. Anyway I spent the whole night wandering between the terrace open space area and the club area, observing, occasionally chatting with aggressive garotas. Quotes were between 2-3 k. I saw 8's maybe a few but all occupied, a few 7's, 6's etc.
So I as I was resting on the couch between the club and the terrace area one garota came and sat down close to me and we start chatting as I feel her up. I wasn't really into her and she quoted 2 k. I said 1 k and she came down to 1,5 k. I said my offer is 1 k and vc me the o see you and told her to think about it, she left. As I was leaving the garota I offered 1 k finds me and says she though about my offer and agrees. I didn't really want to session with her to be honest but I said fuck it let's do it. So up we go and pay for room I think 360 or something like that I don't remember. As I am paying for room and my entry fee which was 600 of which 400 is consumao the receptionist asks if I want to pay for her drink which is 480 reais. My stupid ass couldn't say no because I apparently I'm a nice moron.[/QUOTE]This is the most believable and plausible report in a while here. You see -- whatever you do, it is minimum 2500 reais to wet your Willy in Scandallo.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3079304]In the section filtro, there is a box named Busca por termos. The name work in this box.[/QUOTE]It worked, thank you!
[QUOTE=CptMargo;3079294]She quoted R3,000 which was a non-starter. She came down to R2,500.
Unfortunately they got many tricks that are happpy to indulge for that price range.[/QUOTE]I don't think this "trick" will work on anybody, LOL. In garota language such ridiculous overcharge means "fuck off", that's all.
[QUOTE=GeekAuto;3079281]So I arrive to SP in the morning and uber to my Airbnb in Moema. I had already booked a date with a seeking SB for the night. Let's call her L, she's in her late twenties.
I had already vetted her through her social media, L holds a regular well paying job and has a presence on social media, so to say influencer.
She Ubers to me at 9 PM (rare BTW most girls ask me to uber them) we get into the Airbnb, some chitchat she speaks some English and then we go to bedroom for fun.
I'd rate her body 8, face 7, action 9. Paid her 2000 reais I knew I overpaid but it was BBFS and I nutted in her bean hole. So that's that. I'm stupid for paying this, as soon as I was done she got dressed. Ok fine I didn't want to make a scene.
As the night was young I decide to go to Scandallo. Get there and as soon as I walk in I feel a lot of female stares immediately on me. I don't think I've ever experienced it before in my life. Anyway I spent the whole night wandering between the terrace open space area and the club area, observing, occasionally chatting with aggressive garotas.
Quotes were between 2-3 k. I saw 8's maybe a few but all occupied, a few 7's, 6's etc.
All races and sizes, and shapes you can imagine though mostly brancas or pardas.
So I as I was resting on the couch between the club and the terrace area one garota came and sat down close to me and we start chatting as I feel her up. I wasn't really into her and she quoted 2 k. I said 1 k and she came down to 1,5 k.
I said my offer is 1 k and vc me the o see you and told her to think about it, she left.
Then I wandered around until 4 am talking to different garotas, getting quotes, while drinking my agua de coco.
I was seemingly tired and was about to leave around 4:30 am without action as I wasn't willing to spend 2 k for one hour of covered sex with WG.
As I was leaving the garota I offered 1 k finds me and says she though about my offer and agrees. I didn't really want to session with her to be honest but I said fuck it let's do it. So up we go and pay for room I think 360 or something like that I don't remember. As I am paying for room and my entry fee which was 600 of which 400 is consumao the receptionist asks if I want to pay for her drink which is 480 reais. My stupid ass couldn't say no because I apparently I'm a nice moron.
In the room she tried different apps for me to pay with card for like 15 minutes I almost got pissed. So it was BBBJ, covered FS, and some Greek action but holy shit it wasn't fun without lube. Was I supposed to bring my own lube??
I came in Greek style, and decided I wanted to go home.
So total damage.
600 entry with consumption included.
1000 garota (she charged me 1020) because of card fee.
480 her drinks (which how do you guys say no to paying this rip off?
Room was like 360 (I might be wrong).
Overall, wasn't worth it (the session) but the overall experience of it since it takes so long to get to Brazil.
It was an expensive day for me but it's a learning curve for me since it was my first day ever in SP and scandallo.[/QUOTE]You boned both garotas up the butt your first day. There's something to be said for that even if you paid a bit much!
Hey fellas, I'll be going back to SP for only 2 days in mid September. I'll be in arriving on a Saturday afternoon and then leaving Monday evening back to the US. I want to go back to Scandello and Casarao but debating which days to go. I saw someone recently mentioned going to Scandello was best on a Sunday night, and I guess that leaves Casarao on Saturday night. Anyone else think that is the best course of action or switching them around?
[QUOTE=Combo;3079311]You boned both garotas up the butt your first day. There's something to be said for that even if you paid a bit much![/QUOTE]Right? I mean it's Brazil and that's why I'm here. Money talks everywhere but Brasileiras are unreal.
I probably overpaid but nothing better than tight see you of a brasileira if you know what I mean.
[QUOTE=Zeyto;3079312]Hey fellas, I'll be going back to SP for only 2 days in mid September. I'll be in arriving on a Saturday afternoon and then leaving Monday evening back to the US. I want to go back to Scandello and Casarao but debating which days to go. I saw someone recently mentioned going to Scandello was best on a Sunday night, and I guess that leaves Casarao on Saturday night. Anyone else think that is the best course of action or switching them around?[/QUOTE]Not sure where you got Sunday night and Scan info. Until a month ago it was closed on sundays!
That said I think doing Casa on Sat is good because that's a prime day. Patio will be open. Plus different crowd in Scan on Sat. Girls asking very high rates. So I'the suggest try Scans new Sunday offer. If it's a bust (unlikely) head to casarao late night.
[QUOTE=GeekAuto;3079281]As I am paying for room and my entry fee which was 600 of which 400 is consumao the receptionist asks if I want to pay for her drink which is 480 reais.
[/QUOTE]What kind of drink that cost R480?
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3079338]What kind of drink that cost R480?[/QUOTE]He says that he went with this girl to the room at 4:30 am.
5 am is closing time at scan so if you go to a room with a girl after 4 am they need to close out your account and the girls since you both will have leave after your session. The girls entrance fee is 300 brl and I guess she must have eaten or drank 180 brl worth which comes out to 480 brl. You can choose not to pay this. It's optional. If she makes a big deal then just say forget it and go home because you're going to have a bad time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3079317]Not sure where you got Sunday night and Scan info. Until a month ago it was closed on sundays!
That said I think doing Casa on Sat is good because that's a prime day. Patio will be open. Plus different crowd in Scan on Sat. Girls asking very high rates. So I'the suggest try Scans new Sunday offer. If it's a bust (unlikely) head to casarao late night.[/QUOTE]Hey Steve, I saw post #21300 which was only a few weeks ago and he replied Sundays is best. So I kinda took that info and ran with it. Didn't know it was closed until recently. So another question, is the place next door to Casarao, is it still a long wait if I took a garota to a room? Before I always took them back to my hotel.
Friday Night (After Midnight Arrival).
Glad to contribute to the Scandallo thread (or should I say, the So Paulo Forum)!
Rolled into Scandallo around midnight last Friday night with a garota lineup already in tow:
A short, athletic, curvy garota (Loria) blonde (Helen) via the clinica connection.
A smoking-hot ebony stunner (Megan Markle lookalike) from a prive.
The playbook was simple: roll into Scandallo three-deep, enjoy the view & interview a few garotas, and recruit one more young hottie to join us for an all-night steamy session / foursome over at Swing Love Motel in Morumbi (aiming for the classic Red X suite or the heated pool suite at nearby Lush)
They always say "don't bring sand to the beach," but damn. My lineup was vastly superior to about 80% of the Friday night shift on the floor. WTF happened to prime-time Friday night at Scandallo? It felt like the mediocre day-shift lineup somehow got handed the weekend prime-time slot. I know July & Aug. Are garotas vacation travel months.
My two garotas actually scoured the whole club trying to help find an attractive hottie to recruit, but the floor was surprisingly dry.
Food was great, I kept the whiskey and cognac flowing in buckets of ice, and we had the DJ throwing out shoutouts and the live band taking special music requests.
Disappointing for a Friday. The talent was mostly average, with rates quoted around 1,000 BRL for an all-night session, and 1,500 BRL for the few better-than-average garotas to leave and do an all nighter with us.. all garotas will get the same .so nope not going higher than the two garotas already on the team
With nothing catching our eye on the floor, we decided to bounced and go with the lineup I brought with me. We headed over to Swing X for a haze-infused night of total debauchery, and didn't wake up until 2 PM the next afternoon.
This coming weekend inviting two 21-year-old cuties from Priv Fadas do Amor. To a fun spot for frolic & fun $800 brl all night.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3079482]Friday Night (After Midnight Arrival). Disappointing for a Friday. The talent was mostly average, with rates quoted around 1,000 BRL for an all-night session, and 1,500 BRL for the few better-than-average garotas to leave and do an all nighter with us.. All garotas will get the same .so nope not going higher than the two garotas already on the team.[/QUOTE]I have found my Scandallo Friday / Saturday sweet spot to be no earlier than 7 pm and no later than 10 pm. Get there too early and there are not enough tutes on the stroll. And get there too late and somebody else already snatched up the best "snatch", the girls already made their money and left, etc. Really late arrivals work way better at Casarao on a Friday or Saturday night (or any night for that matter).
Clinica Enjoy, behind that Burger king in Moema, has it been closed?
The place changed owners several times in the last 2 years.
It is a memorable place because I fucked their receptionist (ex-gp).
I toured many homes during my last trip but did not pull the trigger.
USD is losing value against most currencies that I am tracking. You never know on how the dollar will go and how Brazil does in econ.
Do you guys think now is a good time to buy a home? I missed out when the exchange rate was 1:6. Basically a home was 1 Toyota cheaper.
Just returned from Casarao.
There is a big sign about 33 years anniversary celebration on Aug 20.
I will be back home, but if anybody interested, it can be fun party.
BTW, it was a little bit strange night. There was a lot of people, half men half woman.
But, almost nobody took girls into the hotel.
When I made a choice around 1:30 am and went to the hotel, nobody was in the waiting room.
Usually, I have to wait at least 10-15 minutes.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3079381]He says that he went with this girl to the room at 4:30 am.
5 am is closing time at scan so if you go to a room with a girl after 4 am they need to close out your account and the girls since you both will have leave after your session. The girls entrance fee is 300 brl and I guess she must have eaten or drank 180 brl worth which comes out to 480 brl. You can choose not to pay this. It's optional. If she makes a big deal then just say forget it and go home because you're going to have a bad time.[/QUOTE]I didn't know things could be like this, thank you.
I am in town of Scandallo this week, and will be interested meeting experts.
Please DM if anyone interested.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3079483]I have found my Scandallo Friday / Saturday sweet spot to be no earlier than 7 pm and no later than 10 pm. [/QUOTE]BTW, in June, I was in Gauguin two times on Saturdays. It was completely empty. No life music, no guests, and almost no girls. But, on Thursday it was full with strip show, life music and lots of fun.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3079609]I am in town of Scandallo this week, and will be interested meeting experts.
Please DM if anyone interested.[/QUOTE]Is this São Paulo? Correct?
[QUOTE=Pascoal2000;3079734]Is this So Paulo? Correct?[/QUOTE]Yes of course. As it is famous for Scandallo.
Priv - Casa Amarela 170 (Vila Mariana).
Are. Afonso Celso, 170 Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP.
$ 120 brl (30 min).
$ 140 brl (40 min).
$ 190 brl (1 hour).
Open until 22:00 wassap (smooth, helpful staff confirmed address & details).
Exited Metr Vila Mariana, fired up MapaGp, and noticed this spot nearby. It's a very discreet, non-descript house. Make sure to double-check the address via before rando ringing on doors to ensure you're at the right door.
Was greeted at the door by an older receptionist who let me in. Payment is made upfront. Cash, card pix. I paid cash this time.
The house itself is nothing special & downside is the shower and bathroom are located out in the hallway that sux.
4 -6 garotas available mature / older morena (crooked teeth).
Mid-30's branca, 2 cute 25 yo morenas.
The point here is purely value: the chance to spend time with half decent-looking 25-year-old local girls for lunch money $ 120 brl.
Selected both younger morenas and headed upstairs. Both perky cute and pleasant enough, notch below CasaRao. Scored wassap & Instagrams, finished up, and headed over to one of my rising favorite spots nearby (Fadas do Amor on Rua Joel Jorge de Melo). has wassap status of garotas
Verdict.
Pros: Low price point, decent location near metro, quick / easy WhatsApp communication, open late / Basic house, hallway bathroom / shower layout, hit-or-miss lineup depending ya gets what ya gets type of place.
Fine for a cheap, daytime pit-stop if you're near the metro, not a destination spot.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3079821]one of my rising favorite spots nearby (Fadas do Amor on Rua Joel Jorge de Melo). .[/QUOTE]I have seen Aline at there. She speaks English and she has is very warm and personable.
I'm thinking about taking PrEP for my next trip to Brazil. Does anyone know if I should get it in the states or buy it in SP?
I've never taken it, dunno how much it costs in USA vs Brazil.
I do have a future ex who is willing to do bareback. I will test her, but just in case haha.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3079938]I'm thinking about taking PrEP for my next trip to Brazil. Does anyone know if I should get it in the states or buy it in SP?
I've never taken it, dunno how much it costs in USA vs Brazil.
I do have a future ex who is willing to do bareback. I will test her, but just in case haha.[/QUOTE]Isn't PrEP for hiv prevention? Are you planning on fucking any men?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3079938]I'm thinking about taking PrEP for my next trip to Brazil. Does anyone know if I should get it in the states or buy it in SP?
I've never taken it, dunno how much it costs in USA vs Brazil.
I do have a future ex who is willing to do bareback. I will test her, but just in case haha.[/QUOTE]Last time I checked the process of sourcing it in Brazil did not seem easy for a foreigner, I would get it in US and not take extra risks.
And Trojan22 HIV is not "men only" the numbers in several countries have been increasing on straight population and in Brazil specifically it has increased by 20% since 2010.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3079821]Priv - Casa Amarela 170 (Vila Mariana).
Are. Afonso Celso, 170 Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP.
Open until 22:00 wassap (smooth, helpful staff confirmed address & details).
The point here is purely value: the chance to spend time with half decent-looking 25-year-old local girls for lunch money $ 120 brl.
Fine for a cheap, daytime pit-stop if you're near the metro, not a destination spot.[/QUOTE]This is exactly why I like going to privées and clinicas. It is cheap and almost always you can find something acceptable for quick morning dump. Aaaand sometimes you can find a real gem, the diamond in that manure for the same 120 reais.
Comrade Tochka, how much of forista discount do you usually get? Do you ask for it every time or it is one review. One discount rule?
Fala, confere! Gatito Safado, ZuluTango25, Cane, SamaRiding, Vagabundo, Knowledge, and Axel Heyst for the shoutouts, comments, and replies!
Mapagp is crazy good for daytime options in SP. Casarso-quality gems in prives for one-third the price and with better rooms (Cane) opens up a nextlevel to explore the city.
I used to wonder where those cute Minas Gerais garotas were before they showed up late at night at Casarso. Now I know. Kkkk Really happy to catch a few of them for an afternoon delight before their midnight shifts starts.
The "PokMon. GO" challenge for daytime dudes.
Next time you're in an Uber on your way to Scandallo, heading to a fancy restaurant, or just dropping by Clinica Yankin in VM.
Fire up Mapagp.
See what local prives are nearby.
Hit the WhatsApp link.
Visit and report back on your experiences (good or bad!
Think it was Nounce or Socrates or Axel that said if you push scandallo garotas into a pool, and they emerged no makeup, no hair extensions, no extra boobs, no extra bundas, no nail polish, wipeoff the arm tattoos many would come out as everyday garotas (for certain scandy dayshift). I like finding a real cuties talent that don't need all that extra stuff anyway. And are still natural sexy toned in brasil dental floss beach bikinis.
Casarao garotas would still be young MG beauties.
Bahamas would need to close if that happened, oh shit they are closed kkk.
[QUOTE=Muadib69;3079975]Last time I checked the process of sourcing it in Brazil did not seem easy for a foreigner, I would get it in US and not take extra risks.
And Trojan22 HIV is not "men only" the numbers in several countries have been increasing on straight population and in Brazil specifically it has increased by 20% since 2010.[/QUOTE]It is super easy to get in SP as long as you are willing to pay for it. Getting it for free at a govt clinic might be harder for a foreigner. Just walk up to any pharmacy and ask for BiNav. If that pharmacy doesn't have it, they will tell you which one has stock nearby and then go there and get it. If you have a cpf, it is cheaper but I don't know by how much. I will report back after my August trip.
$800 brl per girl? I plan to check out Fadas do amor next week, garota line up seems pretty solid!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3079482]Friday Night (After Midnight Arrival).
This coming weekend inviting two 21-year-old cuties from Priv Fadas do Amor. To a fun spot for frolic & fun $800 brl all night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3080038]It is super easy to get in SP as long as you are willing to pay for it. Getting it for free at a govt clinic might be harder for a foreigner. Just walk up to any pharmacy and ask for BiNav. If that pharmacy doesn't have it, they will tell you which one has stock nearby and then go there and get it. If you have a cpf, it is cheaper but I don't know by how much. I will report back after my August trip.[/QUOTE]THANK YOU, will try end of the month when I go there.
[QUOTE=Dddubs2;3080039]$800 brl per girl? I plan to check out Fadas do amor next week, garota line up seems pretty solid![/QUOTE]Probably clear to most, you can't take out a Clínica girl from the house during her shift. You have to get theirs WhatsApp and make a deal with them after their shift. Can do this with any Clínica girl. Most will gladly spend the night or day with you instead of making 100-200 are per session in the Clínica.
[QUOTE=Muadib69;3080042]THANK YOU, will try end of the month when I go there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3080038]It is super easy to get in SP as long as you are willing to pay for it. Getting it for free at a govt clinic might be harder for a foreigner. Just walk up to any pharmacy and ask for BiNav. If that pharmacy doesn't have it, they will tell you which one has stock nearby and then go there and get it. If you have a cpf, it is cheaper but I don't know by how much. I will report back after my August trip.[/QUOTE]Type drogariasaopaulo with Brazil VPN.
200 MG emtricitabine and 300 MG tenofovir disoproxil fumarate (TDF).
Binav 30 days showing brl 234.
Generic brl 185.
Mileage may vary, but never really had an issue buying anything here (haven't bought PreP yet though).
F.
[QUOTE=Foolish;3080116]Type drogariasaopaulo with Brazil VPN.
200 MG emtricitabine and 300 MG tenofovir disoproxil fumarate (TDF).
Binav 30 days showing brl 234.
Generic brl 185.
Mileage may vary, but never really had an issue buying anything here (haven't bought PreP yet though).
F.[/QUOTE]Thank you again, I source a lot of stuff from Brazil pharmacies, but my understanding from reading the "bula" was that PreP like Truvada in Brazil needed a valid Braziilian prescription, that is why I said that as a foreiner seemed difficult.
I have stock bought in EU will take it with me and will try and see if pharmacy in Brazil does not ask for Brazillian doctor valid prescriprion like the package leaflet I read states.
Yes I figured that was the case—was just wondering if 800 was for one girl or for both. Assuming 800 brl per girl so 1600 total.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3080082]Probably clear to most, you can't take out a Clnica girl from the house during her shift. You have to get theirs WhatsApp and make a deal with them after their shift. Can do this with any Clnica girl. Most will gladly spend the night or day with you instead of making 100-200 are per session in the Clnica.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3079482]WTF happened to prime-time Friday night at Scandallo? It felt like the mediocre day-shift lineup somehow got handed the weekend prime-time slot. I know July & Aug. Are garotas vacation travel months.[/QUOTE]They are on workation in Europe. I know several GPS in Germany right now. Also know 1 in London, 1 in Milan and another one in Switzerland. They charge 150 hh 250 h over there.
[QUOTE=Muadib69;3080128]Thank you again, I source a lot of stuff from Brazil pharmacies, but my understanding from reading the "bula" was that PreP like Truvada in Brazil needed a valid Braziilian prescription, that is why I said that as a foreiner seemed difficult.
[/QUOTE]Good point. I should have looked more closely at the regulations. Apparently foreign prescriptions won't work, but at a cta clinic, you show your passport and can get prep for free, but you need to qualify based on your risk. Not sure if they prescribe & give doses, or just the doses.
F.
Has anyone tried a Scandallo Sunday yet? I am debating between making a visit tonight or going with the gold standard that is Casarao.
The wrinkle is that Casarao Sundays have traditionally been great for me because I can sometimes pick up a Scandallo girl who stopped in on her day off. If Scandallo is open, that math probably doesn't hold.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3080156]Has anyone tried a Scandallo Sunday yet? I am debating between making a visit tonight or going with the gold standard that is Casarao.
The wrinkle is that Casarao Sundays have traditionally been great for me because I can sometimes pick up a Scandallo girl who stopped in on her day off. If Scandallo is open, that math probably doesn't hold.[/QUOTE]I have not tried it but I see no reason not to since casarao doesn't start till 12+. Hit up Scan first and see how it is. Then bounce to Casa.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3080140]They are on workation in Europe. I know several GPS in Germany right now. Also know 1 in London, 1 in Milan and another one in Switzerland. They charge 150 hh 250 h over there.[/QUOTE]Yup, spot on. A ton of my scanfyb favorites cycle through Europe on seasonal toursmainly London, Spain, and Portugal. I used to think those location-tagged Instagram selfies were just for show or clout, but they're definitely out there working the high-rate Euro circuit. Kkk. Spenfing 16 mil brl on boob jobs. Interrsting investment must be boob bitcoin somewhere in brasil kkk.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3080082]Probably clear to most, you can't take out a Clnica girl from the house during her shift. You have to get theirs WhatsApp and make a deal with them after their shift. Can do this with any Clnica girl. Most will gladly spend the night or day with you instead of making 100-200 are per session in the Clnica.[/QUOTE]This is 100% the playbook.
Meet them at the clinics, exchange wasssp / Insta, and offer a nightb of full-date package outside the clinic. Promise two fine garotas a great time, promise marola with ice delivered directly by motoboys, hit Love Cabaret for the exotic sex show circus, then walk less than 30 seconds over to Tokio Bar for drinks, karaoke, rooftop dancing. Finish up by walking 30 seconds to the love motel, book the top floor of Andar de cima, luxury suites with the stripper pole and sex toys & outfits, wake up next day at 2 PM completely exhausted wrapped around young beauties.
[QUOTE=Foolish;3080153]Good point. I should have looked more closely at the regulations. Apparently foreign prescriptions won't work, but at a cta clinic, you show your passport and can get prep for free, but you need to qualify based on your risk. Not sure if they prescribe & give doses, or just the doses.
F.[/QUOTE]Instead of relying on word-of-mouth or internet bros for medical advice, the trusted way is to just use a brasilian English-speaking telemedicine doc, (like mybraziliandoc). You do a quick 20-minute video / wasssp consult on your iphone, no CPF or passport complications needed, nada. They write you a official local Brazilian prescription for whatever you want, send you the script download in two languages, and give you the best exact spots to pick up your meds directly in Rio or SP. Fast, clean, and completely legally, trusted source covered. & can answer any pre trip visit and post visit question.
[QUOTE=Foolish;3080153]Good point. I should have looked more closely at the regulations. Apparently foreign prescriptions won't work, but at a cta clinic, you show your passport and can get prep for free, but you need to qualify based on your risk. Not sure if they prescribe & give doses, or just the doses.
F.[/QUOTE]The local PREP version is branded BINAV. In RJ available for around 180 R in most pharmacies surprisingly without prescription. Even got in on rappi without. (Not recommended for first time users without prior testing etc.).
Not sure if in SP regulation is more strict. Process at CTA clinic is a bit chaotic and time consuming, though free.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3080156]Has anyone tried a Scandallo Sunday yet? I am debating between making a visit tonight or going with the gold standard that is Casarao.
The wrinkle is that Casarao Sundays have traditionally been great for me because I can sometimes pick up a Scandallo girl who stopped in on her day off. If Scandallo is open, that math probably doesn't hold.[/QUOTE]Found out Scandallo is open on Sundays but didn't go since they are open from 8 pm and wasn't sure about the entry fee.
They later replied the message and advised that entry fee is R400 on Sundays.
Instead, visited Carasao Sunday last night and it was pretty good (Saturday was straight up sausage fest).
During the day time, Luminna spa is pretty good option as well.
I'm in SP this week, hit me up if anyone in town.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080243]Found out Scandallo is open on Sundays but didn't go since they are open from 8 pm and wasn't sure about the entry fee.
They later replied the message and advised that entry fee is R400 on Sundays.
Instead, visited Carasao Sunday last night and it was pretty good (Saturday was straight up sausage fest).
During the day time, Luminna spa is pretty good option as well.
I'm in SP this week, hit me up if anyone in town.[/QUOTE]I actually did the same, and agree about the quality at Casarao. While it wasn't packed early, there was a very solid lineup all night. In regards to Casarao pricing, 800 R definitely seems to be the new standard, and the rooms themselves are up to 120 R for an hour. Having said that, I am sure you could get some of the girls for 500-600 R still if you stand firm. I know the hotel has expanded a bit, but I don't see nearly as many people going next door as I used to. So many people sit and talk all night like you might at Scandallo, whereas in the past I felt Casarao girls were looking for a quick turn around.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3080082]Probably clear to most, you can't take out a Clnica girl from the house during her shift. You have to get theirs WhatsApp and make a deal with them after their shift. Can do this with any Clnica girl. Most will gladly spend the night or day with you instead of making 100-200 are per session in the Clnica.[/QUOTE]I don't think any cat is worth 800 dollars, it's an absurd amount, especially considering I go out at night and get her "for free".
Went to Scandallo with few ISG members and club was pretty quiet as expected being on Monday.
Girls were asking R1,500 and sure you can negotiate down to R1,000 to 1,200.
Didn't pick any girl and went to Carasao.
In Carasao, other member recommend for 30 minute option which I never partake previosly as I always do one hour option.
The going rate for 30 min was R400 without any negotiation and room cost is R60 which is half of regular one hour cost.
Think this 30 min option is a sweet spot if you are looking for multiple sessions during the night.
[QUOTE=Pascoal2000;3080313]I don't think any cat is worth 800 dollars, it's an absurd amount, especially considering I go out at night and get her "for free".[/QUOTE]Since the.
$800 brl all night for a clinica garotas is my quote and staying until next day 2 pm. I quoted in brl or reais the other responses were in brl or reais too.
Which currency are referring to?
[QUOTE=Pascoal2000;3080313]I don't think any cat is worth 800 dollars, it's an absurd amount, especially considering I go out at night and get her "for free".[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is in Brazil, 800 Br. And in this context I think its for a threesome 2 x400 br.
[QUOTE=Pascoal2000;3080313]I don't think any cat is worth 800 dollars, it's an absurd amount, especially considering I go out at night and get her "for free".[/QUOTE]Sorry to pile on, but it's best practice to use the local currency (here BRL) when discussing prices.
[QUOTE=Combo;3080399]Sorry to pile on, but it's best practice to use the local currency (here BRL) when discussing prices.[/QUOTE]But when I criticized someone for putting up a post here that quoted prices in Euros (among other things), less than a handful seemed to think that was somehow an unreasonable or unfair criticism or something. It was not. If I was making a post in the FKK threads and quoted prices in Reals, what kind of sense would that make? Prices should be quoted in the relevant currency for the country being discussed (and it can help to follow that up with the equivalent amount in major currencies like Dollars or Euros for comparison).
How was the quality of girls in Carasao?
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080352]...
In Carasao, other member recommend for 30 minute option which I never partake previosly as I always do one hour option.
The going rate for 30 min was R400 without any negotiation and room cost is R60 which is half of regular one hour cost...[/QUOTE]
If price is not an issue as far as quality of girls & quality of the club is Gaugin better than Casarao?
Planning on going to Sao Paulo Monday to Monday Oct 5th to Monday Oct 12th.
I plan to go mostly to Scandallo & trying to decide on 2nd best club.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3080455]If price is not an issue as far as quality of girls & quality of the club is Gaugin better than Casarao?
Planning on going to Sao Paulo Monday to Monday Oct 5th to Monday Oct 12th.
I plan to go mostly to Scandallo & trying to decide on 2nd best club.[/QUOTE]Then come back here and tell us how it went.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3080455]If price is not an issue as far as quality of girls & quality of the club is Gaugin better than Casarao?
Planning on going to Sao Paulo Monday to Monday Oct 5th to Monday Oct 12th.
I plan to go mostly to Scandallo & trying to decide on 2nd best club.[/QUOTE]Gaugin is definitely better than Casarao in terms of quality of girls and club. Also seems to be a price-point between Casarao and Scandallo.
Casarao is lowest price option of the three, but the top-tier talent are scarce there.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3080470]Gaugin is definitely better than Casarao in terms of quality of girls and club. Also seems to be a price-point between Casarao and Scandallo. Casarao is lowest price option of the three, but the top-tier talent are scarce there.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't know about that. I mean the last time I was at Casarao, I saw some pretty good talent. The one area where it can't be disputed that Casarao is better is in terms of the number of tutes available on the stroll. Casarao can be right up there with Scandallo in terms of the number of girls available to choose from. I've never seen anything close to that at Gaugin. My number one problem with Casarao is that I don't particularly like the rooms. And here is where Gaugin wins. No question that it has superior facilities. Decisions, decisions. I just go to all of them!
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3080455]If price is not an issue as far as quality of girls & quality of the club is Gaugin better than Casarao?
Planning on going to Sao Paulo Monday to Monday Oct 5th to Monday Oct 12th.
I plan to go mostly to Scandallo & trying to decide on 2nd best club.[/QUOTE]What the other poster said is accurate about Gauguin being in the middle. Worth a visit. But to me the play (that I do a lot) is enjoy Scandallo from 18:58 (before the 200 R cover) till 1 or so and then go to Casarao from 1-4 AM. The cover at Casa is negligible so easy to bop over there late night and take a second girl. It's def moved up market in recent years esp Thursday thru Saturday when the patio is open.
And the serendipity of it all is after 5-6 hours at Scan the beer goggles are fully activated, so if the talent at Casarao is down a notch they all still look fuckable! 😂
Visited last night (Tuesday) and place was packed with great energy.
Believe Tuesday to Thursday are the best nights to visit (avoid Saturday as it is completely dead).
Girls were asking R1000 to start and settle at R700-800.
Early entrance fee is R150 all consumable before 9 pm and room is R250.
Personally, I really like the room in Gauguin than other clubs including Scandallo.
My second favorite clinica next to abbbora in Moema.
Guess price went up to R490 now but they have nice rooms.
For whatever reason, front desk girl doesn't like me but they always have a great line up with live presentation and open on Sundays.
Any tips on how to use Santander bank ATM?
Tried to withdraw R2000 and once conversion screen came up, I decline which cancel the transaction.
Also, tried R3000 but it cancel again.
If makes any difference, I'm using the one from Ibirapuera mall.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080547]Any tips on how to use Santander bank ATM?
Tried to withdraw R2000 and once conversion screen came up, I decline which cancel the transaction.
Also, tried R3000 but it cancel again.
If makes any difference, I'm using the one from Ibirapuera mall.[/QUOTE]Walk ten more minutes to Bradseco bank with ATM in lobby. Need to go during business hours.
The santader at ibuperia mall is extremely finnicky because it runs out of money quick. Difficult to dispense large amounts so it rejects everything including 1000 brl withdrawls..
if nobody in the mall is walking over use the bank of Santandar ATMs, or infront of the ATMshas is nobody completely empty. Likely no more brl reais in those ATMs. its been picked clean by all the shoppers, pensioners and visitors
In the olden days bradesco was across the street from the mall, now its a ten min walk from the mall.
Somewhere I published a list of bradesco and santadar ATM open late till 10 pm or 11 pm, most were in local neighborhoods not moema & would close on local holidays
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080547]Any tips on how to use Santander bank ATM?
Tried to withdraw R2000 and once conversion screen came up, I decline which cancel the transaction.
Also, tried R3000 but it cancel again.
If makes any difference, I'm using the one from Ibirapuera mall.[/QUOTE]AFAIK, Santander ATMs have lower withdrawal limit of $R1250 or $R1500 which is lower than Bradesco's $R2500 (some of their ATMs have lower limit depending on cash levels and maybe other factors I don't know about). If that fails, try $R1000.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080547]Any tips on how to use Santander bank ATM?
Tried to withdraw R2000 and once conversion screen came up, I decline which cancel the transaction. Also, tried R3000 but it cancel again.
If makes any difference, I'm using the one from Ibirapuera mall.[/QUOTE]Santander ATM's tend to be cash stingy. Even when I go to their big branch office located in the CNN World building at Av. Paulista, 1374, I am often refused any cash withdrawal larger than 1200 br or 1500 br. Bradesco is better. Try the Bradesco at Av. Brig. Faria Lima, 2157 across the street from Iguatemi Shopping Mall or the one at Bradesco Av. Paulista, 2026. I usually can withdraw 2500 br at either branch. Always decline the ATM machine's rate conversion prompt. Your debit card gives the best FX rate available.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080552]Santander ATM's tend to be cash stingy. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3080551]AFAIK, Santander ATMs have lower withdrawal limit of $R1250 or $R1500 [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3080550]Walk ten more minutes to Bradseco bank with ATM in lobby. Need to go during business hours.
In the olden days bradesco was across the street from the mall, now its a ten min walk from the mall.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedbacks.
Guess just have to walk to the Brasdesco bank then.
Definitely miss the one across from the mall.
I'm going to disagree strongly on the Santander ATMs, they are the only ones I use at this point. The limit is 2,000 R, but if you need more they will let you do two withdrawals back to back. The only way you run into issues is if the machine is low on bills, which has happened a grand total of once to me across 10+ machines. You enter your card, it gives it back, you select English and then it asks for you to insert it again. With Schwab I select Visa Debit, Checking account, enter the amount and then done. I have never been asked by a Santander machine if I would like them to do a conversion, which is the primary reason I use them. You might run into an issue if its a machine that can dispense dollars as some of theirs do, but typically if a location has that function its only one of the machines in the bank.
As for Guaguin, my experience is its not as simple as being a middle ground. The floor for quality at Casarao is lower, but the ceiling there is also higher. Guaguin in contrast is more uniform in quality. As for prices, I don't think they differ much if we're talking about an hour. The A tier at Casarao is asking 800 R or occasionally 1000 R, though I've found the 1 ks have typically been fine coming down to 800 with a handful of exceptions.
Also to note for Casarao, the advantage with the half hour is its not actually 30 minutes but 40. The first buzzer goes off at 30, and then at 40 you get another which is when they expect you to be done. With the hour you get buzzed at 50 and are expected to vacate at 60. If I do a half I generally fuck until the buzzer and then take 3-5 minutes more to finish which works out well. I suppose some girls might cut you off at 30 exactly, but I've had that happen a grand total of once and she only did it because she tried to sell me a second half hour, so I don't think its common.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;3080574]I'm going to disagree strongly on the Santander ATMs, they are the only ones I use at this point.[/QUOTE]Although I tend to prefer Bradesco, Santander has worked perfectly well for me too with no issues.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080575]Although I tend to prefer Bradesco, Santander has worked perfectly well for me too with no issues.[/QUOTE]Revolut is the best! It works anywhere in the world.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080575]Although I tend to prefer Bradesco, Santander has worked perfectly well for me too with no issues.[/QUOTE]The OP stated a specific Santander ATM in Ibuperia mall in Moema did not work for him. He tried, so did I. Several times. I know that bank of ATM well from my disappointments.
I have experienced exact same situation as OP with that specific bank of.
Santander ATMs in that shopping lojas for the past few months.
Earlier was no problem. Now headaches not reliable. I have used Santadar ATM in a different neighboorhood no problem or walked 10 min to Bradesco to withdraw money.
Its great to list specific address of ATM Santander, Bradesco, whatever that work for your card to help others out.
Thanks Axel H for addresses.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3080651]The OP stated a specific Santander ATM in Ibuperia mall in Moema did not work for him. He tried, so did I. Several times. I know that bank of ATM well from my disappointments. I have experienced exact same situation as OP with that specific bank of. Santander ATMs in that shopping lojas for the past few months. Earlier was no problem. Now headaches not reliable. I have used Santadar ATM in a different neighboorhood no problem or walked 10 min to Bradesco to withdraw money. Its great to list specific address of ATM Santander, Bradesco, whatever that work for your card to help others out. Thanks Axel H for addresses.[/QUOTE]I understand. Thing is, in Sampa I have always stayed in Moema and regularly used the Santander ATM at Ibirapuera Shopping. And never a single problem! Luck of the draw? Maybe, I don't know. All I know is never a single problem for me. Go figure! But then again, it's been a while since I've been down there, and things can and do change with time. I guess it's a good thing I won't be staying in Moema when I'm back down there later this year isn't it then?
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080536]Visited last night (Tuesday) and place was packed with great energy.
Believe Tuesday to Thursday are the best nights to visit (avoid Saturday as it is completely dead).
Girls were asking R1000 to start and settle at R700-800.
Early entrance fee is R150 all consumable before 9 pm and room is R250.
Personally, I really like the room in Gauguin than other clubs including Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Seems like prices went up. Used to be 120 early entry and rooms for 200. Make sure to check the receipt if you pay by card. They are known for over charging.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3080402]How was the quality of girls in Carasao?[/QUOTE]I say 7-8.5 on sat nights. You will see a solid 10 from time to time. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder tho. I sessioned with a mullata there back in 2023. She looked just like the actress something Newton in Westworld. She might be a 7 to some people, but I would pick her over Gisele Bundchen every time.
When visiting clinica's, do you do walk in or make reservations ahead of time on Whatsapp?
[QUOTE=GreyMan92;3080737]When visiting clinica's, do you do walk in or make reservations ahead of time on Whatsapp?[/QUOTE]Mainy walk in and pick from the lineup, but you can make a reservation ahead of time if you have a girl you want to go with.
Any SP historians here? Why moema is the place where many clinicas located? Why not villa mariana or Pinheiros?
Went to Scandallo last night and it was pretty quiet even though it was Thursday night.
Didn't see any girls worth of R1,200, so went to Casarao around midnight.
Casarao was having an anniversary party and holy smokes, there were many girls and guys.
Ran into the old Scandallo girl who I lost contact over the years and she treated me well.
Once you get used to Casarao price, it is hard to justify paying premium in other places.
[QUOTE=ElPostino;3080658]Seems like prices went up. Used to be 120 early entry and rooms for 200. Make sure to check the receipt if you pay by card. They are known for over charging.[/QUOTE]Club does not charge extra for using credit card on entry and the rooms.
Unfortunately, prices went up just like everything else in the world 😫.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080778]Went to Scandallo last night and it was pretty quiet even though it was Thursday night. Didn't see any girls worth of R1,200, so went to Casarao around midnight. Casarao was having an anniversary party and holy smokes, there were many girls and guys. Ran into the old Scandallo girl who I lost contact over the years and she treated me well. Once you get used to Casarao price, it is hard to justify paying premium in other places.[/QUOTE]Only thing for me is I don't want to fuck in dirty Casarao rooms. I wonder how much more a Casarao girl would want to leave with me to go to my hotel?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080781]Only thing for me is I don't want to fuck in dirty Casarao rooms. I wonder how much more a Casarao girl would want to leave with me to go to my hotel?[/QUOTE]Although a few notable punters whom I respect have posted having decent experiences at then annex hotel, I am with you on this one. It was my 1st visit to Casarao and I went next door with my girl. We waited 10 minutes for a room and the room was disgusting. I should have walked, but it was my 1st time and the girl said let's get it on anyway and so we did. The bb sex was great, but after it was over I just wanted to get the hell out and I vowed that I would never use these facilities again. I mean the floor was so filthy I didn't want to walk barefoot on it and neither one of us wanted to use the shower. So from then on I only take Casarao girls back to my hotel and its a win win.
My girls have never up charged me except for asking for an Uber ride to the bar or their apartment which I think is fair enough. In addition, I have found that taking them back to my hotel room where I have an ample supply of good quality booze and smoke leads to a friendlier, more amicable session where most of the girls get comfy and are in no hurry to leave. Thus, average ST visits are more relaxed last 90 minutes or longer. It is best to stay relatively close to Casarao like in the Jardim Paulista neighborhood. The girls usually ask where my hotel is and I tell them its 10 minutes away and its never been a problem.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080781]Only thing for me is I don't want to fuck in dirty Casarao rooms. I wonder how much more a Casarao girl would want to leave with me to go to my hotel?[/QUOTE]Also does Casarao charge a take-out fee since you're not using their room?
When I was visiting Casarao this time, I noticed at least 5 other clubs that are clearly "clubs with chicks" nearby. Don't remember the names, but they are close to Casarao at rua Augusta. Did anybody here test them?
Are they scammy? Because some doorman tried to lure me in, it is quite a redflag now for me. If those 5 other clubs are open and working, what kind of garotas are there? The ones who were banned from Casarao, LOL? I mean if there is a famous Casarao, why would any garota go to work to way less popular club down the street?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080781]Only thing for me is I don't want to fuck in dirty Casarao rooms. I wonder how much more a Casarao girl would want to leave with me to go to my hotel?[/QUOTE]I've taken four girls back to my place in the last couple years, including 2 just a couple months ago. All at 1000 R. Two are still regulars. YMMV.
For the other poster, As far as take out fee it's damn small if you are used to Scan so I don't even know what it is. The hotel Casa uses is next door so when you take a girl you are checking her out of the club regardless of whether you go next door or back to your hotel. As far as I know it's the same either way.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3080829]I've taken four girls back to my place in the last couple years, including 2 just a couple months ago. All at 1000 R. Two are still regulars. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve. How long did each girl stay on average? And did you throw in anything extra for a taxi or Uber for transportation afterwards?
When you are at the club and you are negotiating prices, BBJ, etc. If you don't speak Portuguese, are you just using your phone and a translator app? Do you take a burner phone or translator dedicated device in fear of theft?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080781]Only thing for me is I don't want to fuck in dirty Casarao rooms. I wonder how much more a Casarao girl would want to leave with me to go to my hotel?[/QUOTE]They have a section of renovated rooms, similar to Scandalo rooms. Just ask at the reception.
[QUOTE=Guest19;3080835]They have a section of renovated rooms, similar to Scandalo rooms. Just ask at the reception.[/QUOTE]How many of them do they have exactly? I mean, if you ask for a renovated room, are in for an even longer wait? Are the showers kept clean (no mold)?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3080829]I've taken four girls back to my place in the last couple years, including 2 just a couple months ago. All at 1000 R. Two are still regulars. YMMV.
[/QUOTE]I have done many takeouts at Casarao with payment ranging from $R600-$R1200. Like Steve, my average cost is close to $R1000.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3080829]
For the other poster, As far as take out fee it's damn small if you are used to Scan so I don't even know what it is.[/QUOTE]As of early July, 2026 the takeout fee was $R150. I will let you all know in a few days if it has changed.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3080829]The hotel Casa uses is next door so when you take a girl you are checking her out of the club regardless of whether you go next door or back to your hotel. As far as I know it's the same either way.[/QUOTE]Not the same.
Doing it in-house doesn't require you paying takeout fee whereas it is required if you are taking the girl to any other place for any amount of time (even for an hour).
[QUOTE=Guest19;3080835]They have a section of renovated rooms, similar to Scandalo rooms. Just ask at the reception.[/QUOTE]New room price is R180 for one hour and old room is R120.
For half hour, R90 for new room and R60 for old room.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080850]New room price is R180 for one hour and old room is R120.
For half hour, R90 for new room and R60 for old room.[/QUOTE]I prefer room 2 as the better larger room in casarao its at the regular price. It has private stairs upto.
The bed & bathroom. Its damn convenient to do drink reorders. You may need to tip the guy minding the wall of pursues to reserve the room.
He also doubles as bartender in the downstairs bar.
I am not a fan of the new rooms & new price.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3080851]I am not a fan of the new rooms & new price.[/QUOTE]Please provide some details. Why don't you like the new rooms at Casarao?
Was in room 304 this morning 2:00 AM new very spacious paid are $90 for 40 mins session.
Hey everyone,
I'm planning my first trip to São Paulo and wanted to get some clarity on local logistics and venues before finalizing my setup. I've done a few trips to Barcelona (mostly using incall agencies and highly reviewed freelancers), but SP seems to operate a bit differently.
Based on my research, here is my understanding of the venue types. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of these:
--GP-Guia Freelancers: Listed providers operating out of private apartments or rooms across the city. (I plan to stay strictly in safe areas like Jardins / Moema and travel door-to-door via Uber).
--Massage Clinics: Are these legitimate spas that offer light services (HJ / BJ), or are they generally full-service establishments?
--Privas / Agencies: Are these walk-in agencies where you can view available providers on-site before choosing?
--Nightclubs (Casarão / Scandallo): High-end venues where escorts mingle, with private rooms available on-site for sessions—similar to a German FKK concept?
My Target & Budget:
Provider Profile: Under 30, white / light-skinned, thin / fit build, with a GFE approach.
Budget: Up to are $ 800 / hour.
Questions for SP Vets:
Selection & Budget: With an 800 BRL / HR budget, will I have good access to providers matching my criteria? I know Scandallo is pricier and plan to visit just once or twice, but I need options that fit this budget for daily sessions.
Hygiene & Standards: How is the cleanliness at freelancer apartments vs. Incall agencies / privas? Are sheets and towels reliably changed between clients?
Coordination vs. Pacing: My goal is 2 sex sessions and 1 massage per day. Freelancers seem like the best value, but coordinating that many daily appointments sounds logistically heavy. Is sticking to agencies / privas easier for volume, or are freelancers manageable once you're on the ground?
Appreciate any insight, local tips, or recommendations!
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When I was visiting Casarao this time, I noticed at least 5 other clubs that are clearly "clubs with chicks" nearby. Don't remember the names, but they are close to Casarao at rua Augusta. Did anybody here test them?
Are they scammy? Because some doorman tried to lure me in, it is quite a redflag now for me. If those 5 other clubs are open and working, what kind of garotas are there? The ones who were banned from Casarao, LOL? I mean if there is a famous Casarao, why would any garota go to work to way less popular club down the street?
A buddy and I are thinking of making a much needed return to Sao Paolo in late December-Early January. It has been about 4 years for me since my last visit, and yes our first stop will be scandello.
I live in Medellin, so here in Colombia I already know it definitely slows down as girls spend more time with family or go to the fincas, so if you do not already know girls, it is tough sledding finding girls spontaneously.
Anbody who lives in Sao Paolo or has been there late December / early January can comment?
Lost my old account. Have not logged in since 2019. Don't even remember user name.
Landed in the morning at cgh from Brasilia. Flight was on time. Ubered to my hotel in moema. Not much traffic at 10 in the morning. Staying at Radisson near the mall. Paid about $125 usd per night. Nice big room. Friendly staff, Very nice breakfast. Weak wifi. Only 1 drawback. You can hear the noise of air planes quite frequently but it was quiet at night so it didn't bother me. Check in was a breeze. Quick shower, need to get on to the real stuff.
Walked to iberopuerra mall. Nice lunch at Pizza Hut. Never had a pizza with cream cheese on it. Only in Brazil. Wasn't bad either. Walked around the mall before walking Clinicas.
Miruna. Only 5 girls. All 6 or below. 1 other guys. Didn't like anyone. Left in about 5 minutes.
Prime. Many more girls. May be about 10. I kinda liked only one named Manu. Glasses. Long boots. Slim. Cute face. Took her. An ok session. Nothing special. R380.
Tangara. More than 15 girls. At least 10 guys waiting. I kinda liked 1 MILF type but had no energy or desire to session. If I hadn't sessioned at Prime, I would have done one here. I may find time to get back here.
Casarao. Rua Augusta. Got there around 10 pm. Entire street was packed with party goers, this being Friday night. Got in around 10:30. Very few people. But it was slowly starting to fill up. Walked around and nobody to my liking in the first glance. Got a beer and found a corner to stand in. Lots of girls with tattoos which I don't like. Lots of girls with big bundas I don't like either. After about an hour, I noticed one sitting close to me. She was my type. Started a conversation and met with a very friendly attitude. She was from Rio Grande de sul. Been Here only 3 days in So Paulo and her second night in Casarao. After about 20-30 minutes, I bought her a red bull and then she started slow grinding, kissing me. I really liked her company. The place got really packed around midnight. They had some shows here and there as well. After about a couple of hours, I asked her for all night in my hotel. She asked for R2500 but quickly said R2000 herself. I didn't want to negotiate money but services. She was all game for anything I wanted. Showered together in hotel, followed by amazing sex before going to bed. She was all touchy-feely throughout the night. Second long sweaty session in the morning before I asked her to go home around 9. She forcefully put her no. In my phone. Total GFE. 8 in looks, 9 in service. Great first day in So Paulo.
More report to come.
By the way, does anyone recognize these two places in photos? I read it on a Japanese blog while researching for SP. The writer did not mention names.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3080877] Anybody who lives in Sao Paolo or has been there late December / early January can comment?[/QUOTE]I live in south Florida, but I have been in SP in December & January.
Everything is normal and good until a couple of days before Christmas Eve. Looking at this year's calendar, Christmas Eve 2026 falls on Thursday, December 24, & New Year's Eve 2026 is on Thursday, December 31,2026. This means that things definitely slow down by Tuesday, Dec 22 with most if not all the clinicas closed and many clincas will not reopen until after New Years in January. You can also count on the boates being pretty much dead a day or two before Christmas Eve and a day or two before New Years eve. Most venues will reopen by January 4th or 5th and the boates will definitely be lively again by the 7th, 8th and 9th of January.
The solution to this holiday problem is to come to SP a bit earlier and make arrangements with your favorite girls to get together over the holiday period or you can rely on the various internet call girl sites. The girls will love you for it. KKK. The 1st alternative has worked really well for me in the past although nowadays I prefer to skip Brazil during these 2 holiday weeks. One more thing: hotel rates are dramatically cheaper from the 30th to the 4th.
Thanks for the post.
Good report, enjoy your trip and keep posted.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3080887]Lost my old account. Have not logged in since 2019. Don't even remember user name.
Landed in the morning at cgh from Brasilia. Flight was on time. Ubered to my hotel in moema. Not much traffic at 10 in the morning. Staying at Radisson near the mall. Paid about $125 usd per night. Nice big room. Friendly staff, Very nice breakfast. Weak wifi. Only 1 drawback. You can hear the noise of air planes quite frequently but it was quiet at night so it didn't bother me. Check in was a breeze. Quick shower, need to get on to the real stuff.
Walked to iberopuerra mall. Nice lunch at Pizza Hut. Never had a pizza with cream cheese on it. Only in Brazil. Wasn't bad either. Walked around the mall before walking Clinicas.
Miruna. Only 5 girls. All 6 or below. 1 other guys. Didn't like anyone. Left in about 5 minutes.
Prime. Many more girls. May be about 10. I kinda liked only one named Manu. Glasses. Long boots. Slim. Cute face. Took her. An ok session. Nothing special. R380.
Tangara. More than 15 girls. At least 10 guys waiting. I kinda liked 1 MILF type but had no energy or desire to session. If I hadn't sessioned at Prime, I would have done one here. I may find time to get back here.
Casarao. Rua Augusta. Got there around 10 pm. Entire street was packed with party goers, this being Friday night. Got in around 10:30. Very few people. But it was slowly starting to fill up. Walked around and nobody to my liking in the first glance. Got a beer and found a corner to stand in. Lots of girls with tattoos which I don't like. Lots of girls with big bundas I don't like either. After about an hour, I noticed one sitting close to me. She was my type. Started a conversation and met with a very friendly attitude. She was from Rio grande de sul. Been Here only 3 days in So Paulo and her second night in Casarao. After about 20-30 minutes, I bought her a red bull and then she started slow grinding, kissing me. I really liked her company. The place got really packed around midnight. They had some shows here and there as well. After about a couple of hours, I asked her for all night in my hotel. She asked for R2500 but quickly said R2000 herself. I didn't want to negotiate money but services. She was all game for anything I wanted. Showered together in hotel, followed by amazing sex before going to bed. She was all touchy-feely throughout the night. Second long sweaty session in the morning before I asked her to go home around 9. She forcefully put her no. In my phone. Total GFE. 8 in looks age 9 in service. Great first day in So Paulo.
More report to come.
By the way, does anyone recognize these two places in photos? I read it on a Japanese blog while researching for SP. The writer did not mention names.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080852]Please provide some details. Why don't you like the new rooms at Casarao?[/QUOTE]I stayed in the new 100's, 200's, and 300's room blocks at Casarão, here is my direct breakdown of room quality, value, and logistics.
Best Value Rooms for me are Love Motels (for the Price).
Lush, Crush, Swing, Colonial, and Panda (Botafogo).
High-End / Pricey, excellent rooms: Scandallo large room, Gauguin large room offer premium high-quality rooms, but expect to pay a premium. Need to ask for larger rooms when doing threesomes. Not default room.
On-Site Boate Rooms.
Casarão (for Picky Travelers like me):
Rooms 1–11: Solid overall. Room 2 is a hidden gem.
Why cause Rooms 1–11 are close to the reception desk, making it fast and easy to get extra towels or drinks.
I don't book the new ones anymore 100's, 200's, and 300's Blocks (2nd & 3rd Floors): Located up the stairs and further away. Service is slow if something is broken or dirty, and the Bluetooth speakers often don't work. Pain in ass to get resolved at 0200 am.
Shoot I'the rather wait an extra 15 minutes or tip 5 Reais to guarntee lower-level room 1-11.
4 x4: A total maze. Easy to get lost wandering the hallways.
Monte Carlos & Solarium: On-insite rooms are small and poor quality.
Bahamas: Had solid rooms back when it was open.
Other Venues with On-Site Rooms.
Zeus, Connection, and Café Foto.
Check MAPGP for exact locations of your target boates and post your room reviews.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3080877]Anbody who lives in Sao Paolo or has been there late December / early January can comment?[/QUOTE]My experience matches that of Axel Heyst. I was in SP in 2024 DEC 19-31. Boetes and clinicas got progressively worse, especially after 23rd DEC. I wouldn't make another trip to SP during Christmas time after that experience. I have never visited Colombia so I can't compare, but I assume it is no different there.
I have seen some Bradesco bank locations completely shut including the ATM area during weekends back in June, but the one on Av. Ibirapuera near hotel Mercure Times Square in Moema is open from 06:00-22:00 (Its ATM area used be open 24/7). Unlike Santander ATMs where it is a guessing game, Bradesco ATM let you know the max amount you can withdraw when you enter a number more than the limit
I am still unsuccessful in finding that elusive Santander ATM in SP that dispensers $R2000! Hope to find it one day!
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3080956]I have seen some Bradesco bank locations completely shut including the ATM area during weekends back in June, but the one on Av. Ibirapuera near hotel Mercure Times Square in Moema is open from 06:00-22:00 (Its ATM area used be open 24/7). Unlike Santander ATMs where it is a guessing game, Bradesco ATM let you know the max amount you can withdraw when you enter a number more than the limit
I am still unsuccessful in finding that elusive Santander ATM in SP that dispensers $R2000! Hope to find it one day![/QUOTE]I was able to get 3 k reais twice from Santander at Ibirapuera shopping using Charles Schwab. No issues at all! And it didn't even ask me to decline conversion! I'm not sure why it didn't work for others here.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3080955]My experience matches that of Axel Heyst. I was in SP in 2024 DEC 19-31. Boetes and clinicas got progressively worse, especially after 23rd DEC. I wouldn't make another trip to SP during Christmas time after that experience. I have never visited Colombia so I can't compare, but I assume it is no different there.[/QUOTE]I think all countery south of the USA are terrible place to go during the christmass vacation. I guessed it a fews years ago and I regretted it each time. The best sex place for christmass is probably pattaya.
[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3080850]New room price is R180 for one hour and old room is R120.
For half hour, R90 for new room and R60 for old room.[/QUOTE]Apparently I got a "new" room for 90 rs for 30 min with my "Japanese", that's why I wrote in my report that the room is similar to Scandallo's in size and quality.
Also I got "old" room deep down in the labyrinth for 1 hour for 120 rs with my "Sasha Grey", it was not like "new" one, but nothing terrible. The rooms in some popular prives in Rio like Eden are way worse.
Also it looks like garotas themselves have their favorite rooms as one of my girls tried to get room #8, but it was occupied.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3080961]I think all countery south of the USA are terrible place to go during the christmass vacation. I guessed it a fews years ago and I regretted it each time. The best sex place for christmass is probably pattaya.[/QUOTE]Cali, Colombia is very good from Dec 25 - NYE. Rio is not bad, although the hotels and apartments are very expensive that week.
Other than that, Latin America is not good during that time frame. However, December until about Dec 23 is very good because the women want to make money to buy gifts.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3080961]I think all countery south of the USA are terrible place to go during the christmass vacation. I guessed it a fews years ago and I regretted it each time. The best sex place for christmass is probably pattaya.[/QUOTE]I think you are wrong about Thailand, Bennie. I avoid LOS in high season like the plague. Things may be slow in SP for a couple of days before Christmas to a couple of days after New Years, but there are still plenty of girls around if you know where to find them. I compare high season in LOS to Carnival in RJ only high season in Thailand lasts far longer, from November to the end of February even March. Both Pattaya and BKK are overrun with tourists and every high season the bars and the girls raise their rates and act like they are God's gift to anybody dumb enough to be there then and I don't blame the girls. What else can they do when demand doubles for 4 months.
To each his own, but I postponed my upcoming "Big Trip" until after Songkran on account of this issue. I originally wanted to visit Thailand this September, but I couldn't fit that early date into my schedule. So, instead I am returning to SP (only) in October for a month of fun and flying back to MIA because I absolutely do not want to be in Thailand in November & December. Then I am flying back down to SP in March, 2027, to party here for a while and then I will fly direct to BKK arriving in late April. It's going to be a great trip and I am really psyched about returning to Thailand after 6 years. I just hope things have not changed too much.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3080961]I think all countery south of the USA are terrible place to go during the christmass vacation. I guessed it a fews years ago and I regretted it each time. The best sex place for christmass is probably pattaya.[/QUOTE]And after the earthquakes in South America, things will get more precarious, I wouldn't go.
IMHO the best Christmas destination is Jakarta. All the usual places will be up and running normally and since Jakarta is not a tourist destination (yet), the city will not see much, if any, increase in vacationers over the holidays, and there will probably be less hotel guests as international businessmen get out of town, The only reference to Christmas will be a merry, merry sign in your 5-star hotel lobby. Yeah, Christmas in Jakarta is business as usual.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3080961]I think all countery south of the USA are terrible place to go during the christmass vacation. I guessed it a fews years ago and I regretted it each time. The best sex place for christmass is probably pattaya.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
Christmas in Thailand is mostly a secular and commercial event. You will see lights and Christmas references at the mall, but it's not a national holiday.
Obviously, the Philippines would not be the best place to go over Christmas.
As one would expect, I have found Brazil to be quiet the days over Christmas.
I think when the question is asked, members are thinking of an optimal trip. While you can find action if you work at it and make adjustments, it is a suboptimal time to monger.
Sat:
I sent away my Casarao find at 9 am on Saturday morning. I had already popped times with her so I am fine to take the day easy. I took a nap until noon, then walked across Av Ibirapuera for lunch. There is a ranch style restaurant serving food from MG called Cultura de Minas. It is a instagram spot, not going to repeat there. After lunch, I walked all the way to Ibirapuera park and spent 2 hours just walk around and sitting on benches. The weather was pretty good, lots of sun and not hot.
Then I walked all the way back to Moema to do my clinica tour. I had no intention to session as I need to save my energy for the night. Every clinica was full of clients on Sat afternoon. I saw quite a few stunners and made notes of their location and name. Will be back this week.
Fast forward to 11 pm, I got an Uber and headed over to scandalloa. Straight in and sat on the back row. I like to observe from there. You can see lots of the girls doing their rounds. First was approached by Julia from Goiania. Cute girl, dark, great smile, small waist, and a biggish but firm butt (firm is my thing). We chatted, I told her I just arrived, and she was totally cool. Gave me her WA and told me I could find her later if need be. Perfect. Next a couple intimidating chicks came and sat at the table next to me. Tattoos, tiny waists, and huge butts. I liked their faces but the night is young.
Then I spotted Gaby: 22 yo, 1.72 cm, model type blonde, blue eyes, whole natural body, natural medium tits (a 9 in my book), claimed to be from Curitiba. She told me that just 2 weeks working there. Rate: she ask me 1800 are and close in 1500 are for 1 h (plus room). She did alright in the room, nothing to write home about. I would go crazy for her if she offered more intimate service. But her face was so cute, I had to do her in missionary so I got to look at the solid 9. Got her WA anyways, might repeat off site if I can ask her to at least put on a performance, I mean just act, you will be a rich working girl.
After that I got a few more WAs and Instas:
Eloisa: 25 yo, 169, blond hair blue / eyes (German / Italian descendant), super white skin, shape body, small tits, barby doll.
Ana from Paraguay: 20 yo, brown hair / dark eyes, tanned beach skin, super shape body and medium size boobs, velvet skin.
Next I met Mayomi: very tall and thin from somewhere north. Definitely of a Asian / Indian decent. Beautiful girl but she did have braces. Got her WA too.
Then came to the prize of this trip, probably nothing will top this: 2 dark haired white girls claiming to be marine biology students trying to make some extra cash to support themselves at college. I thought they were they were liars but I chose to believe them for the fun. We chatted for a bit and convinced them to give me their instas, and holy shit, they are indeed marine bio students. They had pics of them collecting stuff on beaches, in lab coats, on naval ships. I could not believe my eyes! Now I have to take them both. They asked 3000 for threesome and I countered with 2800. They agreed and off we go. I honesty was so drained and was so sloppy. These two had much better chemistry with me and I knew I'd def make a separate date with them.
Sunday:
I woke up by noon and was very tired and happy, had a late lunch at some Japanese place near Fadas do Amor. I wanted to check this place out as I read about it here. Maybe the hot ones were off on Sundays or maybe they were in the rooms, but I was presented with 5 girls that I can imagine them doing fanta on skidrow. They even offered a r100 discount on one of the girls, but no thanks.
Then I decided to text the marine biology students. We arranged nice dinner on Monday night then in my hotel room all night for 2000 each. So let's see how that goes.
After that, I bought a day pass at a smart fit near by to get some workout in. Pretty sure I spotted someone who is also advertising online. I have seen her slutty face but I could not recall which site she was on.
That was Sunday, no action, but I am ready for tonight. Will report back.
2 more things:
1. Where do you rec to go during a day to have a beer and interact with girls? I think Scandallo is overskill for that, just money-wise. Witch clinica has a nice bar where girls also sit at, not a bar at the reception where guys wait for the padada?
2. I still need help to ID the two clinicas in the pics attached. I read about these two places in a blog, but he did not name them. So if you recognize the pics, please let me / us know.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3081026]Exactly. Christmas in Thailand is mostly a secular and commercial event. You will see lights and Christmas references at the mall, but it's not a national holiday. Obviously, the Philippines would not be the best place to go over Christmas. As one would expect, I have found Brazil to be quiet the days over Christmas. I think when the question is asked, members are thinking of an optimal trip. While you can find action if you work at it and make adjustments, it is a suboptimal time to monger.[/QUOTE]It's anywhere you find your family and friends! I mean, why do guys keep thinking lots of girls are going to be around over the holidays just waiting for them to show up grinning? No, they have kids and family and friends they want to spend time with just like everyone else does. That ought to be obvious, but I guess it's not! And we have to say this one over and over again too, which is don't go mongering in Catholic Latin America around and during Easter (La Semana Santa) either. I would say that's even a worse time than trying to monger during Christmas or New Year's! Additionally, the Romanian girls working in Europe flock home for Easter as well.
Great reporting Spbrlove, you are having a good run so far. Looking forward to the next update on the marine biology students.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081038]1. Where do you rec to go during a day to have a beer and interact with girls? I think Scandallo is overskill for that, just money-wise. Witch clinica has a nice bar where girls also sit at, not a bar at the reception where guys wait for the padada?[/QUOTE]Try 57 House Friends Club.
[QUOTE]2. I still need help to ID the two clinicas in the pics attached. I read about these two places in a blog, but he did not name them. So if you recognize the pics, please let me / us know.[/QUOTE]FWIW, the photo with the couch under the window / drapes is likely Abbobora. I'm fairly certain on this one. The girls enter one by one from a door across from that couch. On a good day there will be 12+ girls and many of them will be at least an 8 so have a pencil / paper or phone ready to write down your top choices. IMO one of the top clinicas for high quality girls at a reasonable cost.
The other photo with the couch under the painting could be Enjoy, as I notice some similarities. But I'm really not sure on this one.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3081043]It's anywhere you find your family and friends! I mean, why do guys keep thinking lots of girls are going to be around over the holidays just waiting for them to show up grinning? [/QUOTE]1. A lot of working girls don't have family or friends. Christmas, New Years, Easter are lonely times for them. They are happy to have a customer and make some money.
2. I have only a few friends left who really know me and whom I can count on. My parents and sister are dead. This would be a lonely time for me too if I sat at home and thought about these things.
3. Thai and Indonesian girls have different holidays to get all introspective and sad over, LOL.
4. You can escape the Christmas / New Years blues by getting off your ass and going to one of these destinations and having a good time instead.
A. H.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081067]You can escape the Christmas / New Years blues by getting off your ass and going to one of these destinations and having a good time instead.[/QUOTE]For most top mongering destinations, excluding Asia (but do not exclude the Philippines), you will have a much better time if you avoid going over the Christmas, New Year's, and / or Easter holiday stretch. It's not that there is [I][B]zero[/B][/I] action to be had. It's just that it will be much, much, much better for you and more worth your time if you can go at some other point in the year. Sometimes a guy can't choose another time of year because that's the only time he gets off. Or, perhaps his situation is the sad one described by AH. So, he just has to make the best of it. But again for most destinations, if you do have a choice, then avoid the said times of year to travel specifically for mongering if you can. Save your time and money for when you know you're going to get the most value out of the trip. You'll be glad you did!
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081038]Sat:
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Then came to the prize of this trip, probably nothing will top this: 2 dark haired white girls claiming to be marine biology students trying to make some extra cash to support themselves at college. I thought they were they were liars but I chose to believe them for the fun. We chatted for a bit and convinced them to give me their instas, and holy shit, they are indeed marine bio students. They had pics of them collecting stuff on beaches, in lab coats, on naval ships. I could not believe my eyes! Now I have to take them both. They asked 3000 for threesome and I countered with 2800. They agreed and off we go. I honesty was so drained and was so sloppy. These two had much better chemistry with me and I knew I'd def make a separate date with them.
reception where guys wait for the padada?
[/QUOTE]It's always good to have a marine biologist around.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3081084] Sometimes a guy can't choose another time of year because that's the only time he gets off. [/QUOTE]Of course I know this guy. It's ME! Forced to take my vacations in July (high season in half of the world) and in December (high season everywhere).
But there is a difference between Rio and Pattaya on New Year and Christmas. Both are packed, but Rio has way less girls than usual, and Pattaya has more because of high demand. I don't mind higher prices during high season, because I crave choice. I have been in Pattaya in July. It is almost dead.
I also visited Colombia, Brasil, Peru and Panama during Christmas and NY. Mongering scene is dead during holidays. So it seems that for the winter the best time to go to Brazil is in the beginning of December (garotas need money for gifts) and then after 5th January but before Carnaval time. Our summer (their winter) is slow as garotas are "working" in Europe. Can't say anything about spring or autumn yet.
Thanks for suggesting Jakarta as ideal Christmas destination. It is a combo: has mongering scene, not so touristy, don't give a damn about Christmas!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3081043]It's anywhere you find your family and friends! I mean, why do guys keep thinking lots of girls are going to be around over the holidays just waiting for them to show up grinning? No, they have kids and family and friends they want to spend time with just like everyone else does. That ought to be obvious, but I guess it's not! And we have to say this one over and over again too, which is don't go mongering in Catholic Latin America around and during Easter (La Semana Santa) either. I would say that's even a worse time than trying to monger during Christmas or New Year's! Additionally, the Romanian girls working in Europe flock home for Easter as well.[/QUOTE]You have to read the things and consider the context. It's not a board about family values. Place Pattaya is entertaining in the context mongering of the chritmass holiday.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3081092]Of course I know this guy. It's ME! Forced to take my vacations in July (high season in half of the world) and in December (high season everywhere).
But there is a difference between Rio and Pattaya on New Year and Christmas. Both are packed, but Rio has way less girls than usual, and Pattaya has more because of high demand. I don't mind higher prices during high season, because I crave choice. I have been in Pattaya in July. It is almost dead.
I also visited Colombia, Brasil, Peru and Panama during Christmas and NY. Mongering scene is dead during holidays. So it seems that for the winter the best time to go to Brazil is in the beginning of December (garotas need money for gifts) and then after 5th January but before Carnaval time. Our summer (their winter) is slow as garotas are "working" in Europe. Can't say anything about spring or autumn yet.
Thanks for suggesting Jakarta as ideal Christmas destination. It is a combo: has mongering scene, not so touristy, don't give a damn about Christmas![/QUOTE]I have to disagree with a you a little GS. 1st I'm the guy who recommended Jakarta during the Christmas holidays. Your welcome. But seriously, if you have never been there give it try. I think you will like the girls and the local scene. The only time you will want to avoid CGK is during the month of Ramadan when everything shuts down. It's their Christmas on steroids. In 2027 it begins on February 8 and ends on March 9, 2027. I will be returning to CGK in May 2027 on a visa run from BKK.
While you are absolutely right that Pattaya attracts more girls during high season than low season, the ratio of girls to dicks in high season is not in our favor and the better Go Go's are stretched beyond their capacity to deal with the increased numbers. This is when the bars push customers to continually buy more drinks or leave the bar and the top girls are too busy to consider LT except late at night and for insane prices and even then, many top earners are making so much money on drinks and tips alone that they chose not to barfine at all. Which brings me back to my 1st suggestion, Jakarta.
I also concur with your suggestion about early December in Sao Paulo, IE going to SP in the beginning of the month when garotas need money for gifts and after 5th January when they need to resupply their cash flow. But I have stayed the entire month of December and part of January, so what I did over the holidays was to invite my favorite girls that I met before Christmas to come over to my place when their venues where closed. For example, this was the only time I have ever been able to hook up with some high-quality Palm and Sharon clinicas girls at my hotel rather than shagging them at their respective clinicas.
My last SP visit was in May and June of this year. I spent way too much time with the Missus, like every night, KKK, but 2 or 3 afternoons a week I had fun at various clincias. The weather was volatile. Some days it was 75 and sunny and then a cold front would move thru the valley and the temperature would drop into the low 50's overnight and it would rain and rain for days, but I didn't care. Same same, as LOS in low season when the Durians are ripe. I was having a great time do what difference did it make? None.
[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3080811]When I was visiting Casarao this time, I noticed at least 5 other clubs that are clearly "clubs with chicks" nearby. Don't remember the names, but they are close to Casarao at rua Augusta. Did anybody here test them?
Are they scammy? Because some doorman tried to lure me in, it is quite a redflag now for me. If those 5 other clubs are open and working, what kind of garotas are there? The ones who were banned from Casarao, LOL? I mean if there is a famous Casarao, why would any garota go to work to way less popular club down the street?[/QUOTE]It's better to name the clubs, as that could be more helpful for those with relevant experiences, rather than asking a generic question about five random clubs near Casarao.
There are plenty of clubs around Casarao. One monger mentioned Night House Club, 729 Augusta (a few doors past Casarao) some time ago, though I can't find it (his review using search tools) and it didn't seem like a glowing review. On Augusta, Casarao stands out as the main club for talent, while the others may lack the same quality or appeal to what most mongers here are looking for.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081008]I...... since Jakarta is not a tourist destination (yet)......[/QUOTE]One of my best mongering trips ever was Jakarta 2015. Right up there with Singapore 2008 and Buenos Aires 2010.
Monday's only mission was the 3 some date with the 2 marine bio students (Luissa and Taina) I met in Scandallo on Sat. I had good chem with them during the initial meeting so the date was expected to be unforgettable.
I made a chat group with them so we are all on the same page. Out of nowhere, Luissa sent me a separate text to tell me that she'd be free after lunch and was up to whatever. The date was schedule for the evening with both of them, and now I can already smell the drama.
Luissa knew I was in smartfit so she sent me a gym foto of herself. Then she sent me some sexy photos and I said fuck it, let's meet early.
She came to ibirapuera shopping at 13:30 and was already texting me selfies on the way. Once we met, she run towards me and dipped her tongue in my mouth. I immediately got hard and had to control myself. This was awkward as I am not used to public display of affection. She is such a master manipulator and knew exactly what she did with the selfies. I already had lunch so I bought her some rice and steak at the food court. Then I took her back to my room. I didn't want to go too hard too early, so just told her to suck me until I cum. She did one amazing BJ, I did CIM and she swallowed it all. I guess at this point she is already my GF haha. I asked to massage my back for 20 minutes. Then we showered and went back out for coffee. I bought her a lingerie set and told her to wear later. She said Taina can never know about this, voce entende? I said sim. Haha. She got rid of the bag and removedd the tag as if she already owned it.
We then just walked in the mall until Taina showed up. Luissa pretended she just got there too. We then went to Pizzaria Baggio across the street and were the only customers there. We ate with knife and fork like good Brazilians, then I showed them to told the crust and fold in the middle. Eventually I stopped pretending and ate with my hands again.
After dinner was sexy time. Ofc I went for Taina first. I told Luissa to touch herself and moan while I was fucking Taina. 2nd round I had them both kneeling so I face fucked them and cum in Taina's mouth. She probably thought I liked her more but little did she know the real reason.
We sleep togather and they both left at 7 this morning for classes. Of course we did it again before them leaving. I give each 2000 as we agreed, then I discreetly gave 600 more to Luissa. I was going to give her 500, but did not have a 100, and thought 400 was too little.
One thing Luissa told me was that many of her friends at college do this on the side, some work at in clubs and some even work at clinicas on weekends. She is down to do more 3 somes with me with her other friends, and of course, taina can't know.
So here is the thing guys, I want to meet Luissa's friends, but I don't want to do threesomes with Luissa included each time. That's 4000 a night, or less if they just stay for a few hours. I think that is her intention so she gets paid too.
Anyways, this trip has just gotten more interesting. I also just remembered that some American guy from soucal wanted my whatsapp inside prime and wanted me to tell him my number while 10 other guys was listening. Luckily I had not run into him again haha.
Also guys, has anyone been to the clinicas pictured? One of those is likely abbobora thanks to a fellow IGer for pointing that out. Other one is where? I don't think it is enjoy as it looks every different.
I am in town for nearly a full month. Next report I will talk about my new accommodation.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081187]
I am in town for nearly a full month. Next report I will talk about my new accommodation.[/QUOTE]Great report!!
I will be in town this week and will be at Scandello this evening and till Thursday in case you want to grab a beer. I don't know what the weekend will bring. I plan on getting there before 7 pm.
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[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081187]
I am in town for nearly a full month. Next report I will talk about my new accommodation.[/QUOTE]Trio with hot sexy college coeds? Love it!
Sounds like you are staying in Moema close to the mall. Looking forward to your accommodations report too as we may book the same place for our 3 week stay December / January.
Was the Pizza place any good?
Would love to hear recommendations from Food connoisseur Axel Heist and everyone on Excellent Asian food options in SP.
Chinese dim sum?
Korean BBQ?
Vietnamese Pho?
Thai?
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3081225]Trio with hot sexy college coeds? Love it!
Sounds like you are staying in Moema close to the mall. Looking forward to your accommodations report too as we may book the same place for our 3 week stay December / January.
Was the Pizza place any good?
Would love to hear recommendations from Food connoisseur Axel Heist and everyone on Excellent Asian food options in SP.
Chinese dim sum?
Korean BBQ?
Vietnamese Pho?
Thai?[/QUOTE]My new accommodation is a 5 minute walk from the mall, has security to check in daytime guests for free. I probably won't abuse it as it is not for that purpose. I can say which one exactly once I leave and give it a proper review here.
Th pizza place it legit, but they only open for dinner I believe, very nice setting and food.
I tried some overpriced asian food here and can't rec it. I do enjoy the salted rice and beans here.
I just tried a place called Moema Natural. Food is really alright, but it is full of attractive people. I will be taking my dates here later this week.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3081212]Great report!!
I will be in town this week and will be at Scandello this evening and till Thursday in case you want to grab a beer. I don't know what the weekend will bring. I plan on getting there before 7 pm.[/QUOTE]I can't have action today as I am in recovery camp for tomorrow. I do want to check out Gaugin at some point this week.
Would you guys say Gaugin is above Casarao but below Scandallo?
I've been doing my research online all day, I think there are message clinics in Jadin Paulita that are suppose to be good. But you might ave to pay 200-300 extra in order to get full service.
I am in the mood for a good massage, then I want to get a quick release as am probably teased the entire time.
For example, this Julia on the roaster is totally my type. Has anyone trie this place?
[URL]https://mandalaspa.com.br/terapeutas/[/URL]
This place looks too good to be real. Maybe I will test it myself.
[URL]https://spahara.com.br/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081038]Sat:
1. Where do you rec to go during a day to have a beer and interact with girls? I think Scandallo is overskill for that, just money-wise. Witch clinica has a nice bar where girls also sit at, not a bar at the reception where guys wait for the padada?
.[/QUOTE]These are afternoon spots I have frequented assuming you have conversational porto to keep garotas entertained. Over drinks.
57 friends / chanes -- sometimes its empty & dull until more clinica garota s show up later evening for happy hour.
Tangara -- drink bar downstair, buy a bottle, save for repeat visits. Try grabbing two garotas at a time. At your table to keep gossip flowing.
Yankin --good spot for churrasco & drinks Friday with your favorite garota, garotas have cliques. Watch the face of crest fallen guys as two hours of buying garotas drinks disappears as she goes to bang a client.
Espaço Morumbi -- nice selection of garotas to chat with, high turnover, mature, experienced gartoas. The gêmeos morenas pop up here for twins action. Garotas here are excited to visit swingy club Innerclub next door. Has a ónibus inside the club.
Espaço Vergueiro -- late evening drinking spot, clinica garotas from tangara.
Banana Cafe -- drink, flirt, grab a garota or two. They know how to catch your eye from another table kkk.
In all these bar places garotas get called from your table to do a round of presentations. New client can snap her up at somepoint.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3081264]57 friends / chanes -- sometimes its empty & dull until more clinica garota s show up later evening for happy hour.
Yankin --good spot for churrasco & drinks Friday with your favorite garota, garotas have cliques. Watch the face of crest fallen guys as two hours of buying garotas drinks disappears as she goes to bang a client.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. You are a wealth of knowledge. I read your posts for weeks leading up to this trip.
I checked out these two places you mentioned.
Yankin: 15+ garotas, 6-7 clients. Most were 6's or 7's in my opinion. I did see 2 or maybe 3 I liked. I really didn't plan to session but there was this tall branca with nice curves that really caught my eye. So I said let me at least meet her to just get her WA. I took her to the room and told her that I just arrived from yankeeland and was super tired. I said I needed a good massage some maybe some sexo at the end. The message was weak even with my repeated instructions. So I asked her to just do some oily b2 b with her nice tits. Quickly I got turned on. I put on cap and busted in mis. This is a mature woman in her early or mid 30's, she is closer to my age and is just more calm and quiet than those 21 and 22 yr olds I've been messing with. Despite of weak pressure on massage, she did a good job in the sex department. I got her WA and was quoted 1500 all night. Pretty sure she will come down, but I didn't ask.
57: around 12 garotas, 6-7 clients as well. I did see a few stunners but def did not want to session again (3 som next day). So I sit and ordered a Heineken. As I waited, a few more GPS showed up and the place was getting better in ratio. No new clients, some left, but more GPS. Everyone of them came to me and said Hi. I will be back here for sure. I guess the key is to come later, pass 9 pm for best squat.
Side note:
I am convinced that many online garotas de programa live in my building. I've seen quite a few of them around. They just have that escort vibe with them: wearing long designer's coats with sexy scandallo style dresses underneath and carrying fancy large ish handbags. The dead giveaway is that many of them have tattoos in between their tits that nice girls would not have. If I can see their tattoos with coats on you know they are slutty. I need to interact with them so let me know if you know how to break the ice. I am 99% certain they are escorts.
Now I am headed out to lunch with Larissa and her friend who I'm eager to meet. Will report back on that.
Photo attached is my little studio.
Hey Buddy,
Love the way you are describing your journey. Good writings, appreciate your time and effort to the contribution.
If you have a sub, please send a DM.
Thanks,
Nextdoorguy.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081342]Thanks for the tips. You are a wealth of knowledge. I read your posts for weeks leading up to this trip.
I checked out these two places you mentioned.
Yankin: 15+ garotas, 6-7 clients. Most were 6's or 7's in my opinion. I did see 2 or maybe 3 I liked. I really didn't plan to session but there was this tall branca with nice curves that really caught my eye. So I said let me at least meet her to just get her WA. I took her to the room and told her that I just arrived from yankeeland and was super tired. I said I needed a good massage some maybe some sexo at the end. The message was weak even with my repeated instructions. So I asked her to just do some oily b2 b with her nice tits. Quickly I got turned on. I put on cap and busted in mis. This is a mature woman in her early or mid 30's, she is closer to my age and is just more calm and quiet than those 21 and 22 yr olds I've been messing with. Despite of weak pressure on massage, she did a good job in the sex department. I got her WA and was quoted 1500 all night. Pretty sure she will come down, but I didn't ask.
57: around 12 garotas, 6-7 clients as well. I did see a few stunners but def did not want to session again (3 som next day). So I sit and ordered a Heineken. As I waited, a few more GPS showed up and the place was getting better in ratio. No new clients, some left, but more GPS. Everyone of them came to me and said Hi. I will be back here for sure. I guess the key is to come later, pass 9 pm for best squat.
Side note:
I am convinced that many online garotas de programa live in my building. I've seen quite a few of them around. They just have that escort vibe with them: wearing long designer's coats with sexy scandallo style dresses underneath and carrying fancy large ish handbags. The dead giveaway is that many of them have tattoos in between their tits that nice girls would not have. If I can see their tattoos with coats on you know they are slutty. I need to interact with them so let me know if you know how to break the ice. I am 99% certain they are escorts.
Now I am headed out to lunch with Larissa and her friend who I'm eager to meet. Will report back on that.
Photo attached is my little studio.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081342] ...
Photo attached is my little studio.[/QUOTE]Great reporting Spbrlove. I will be in SP 2nd week of Sept.
Which place are you staying? Do you recommend it?
Hopefully we can meet if you are in town.
Quick recap from the last episode:
I sent away the 2 hot college chicks at 7 am on Tuesday. One of them was wearing the same underwear she had worn for at least 36 hrs. It was at some point in my mouth, then her mouth and her friend's mouth. She probably had to wear it for 10 more hours until she has the chance to change it. The other one left wearing the lingerie I bought and she pretended it was hers.
Larissa is the drama one who wants to sideline Taina. She was the one who came early before the schedule 3 some date to get free lunch, lingerie and my semen in her mouth. She already told me that she wants to introduce her friends to meto for threesomes. But I would just love to meet her friends and have twosomes. I feel that threesomes at 4000 a night is very expensive if done too often. I pay 4000 for 12 hours and they each do half of the work. I would much rather spend 2000 a night for 2 different nights with just one at a time.
Anyways, she showed me 3 or 4 of her friends who are also working in the biz. I picked one and purposed for a lunch date. I simplify asked Larissa to come out for a nice Italian lunch near her uni with that friend. She managed to get it arranged in less than 10 minutes of typing on her phone.
I found a very fancy Italian restaurant inside El Dorado mall. So yesterday, I ordered them a uber to from their college, and myself a uber to meet there at 2 pm.
We all arrived within 5 minutes of each other, and it was tongue kiss again with Larissa, and just cheek kiss with her friend Marina. Then out of nowhere Marina started to speak in English and she is so fluent. It caught me by surprise because Larissa spoke very little English. So the rest of the date became awkward. Marina and I spoke English the entire time and she translated what I said to Larissa. I preferred this because I could fully express what I wanted to say and Marina could just quickly translate everything. I did my best to make Larissa feel included as she was getting sidelined by Marina this time.
It turned out that Marina did exchange in Australia and Canada. She worked in both Scandallo and Gauguin. She has a Canadian visa, can travel there freely. Her dream is to move to Montreal and own a picture perfect house.
The lunch was nice but very expensive. We ordered two 25 cm pizzas, two pastas and a 4 drinks. Each food item was around R80, and the drinks were 25-40 each. The total was around R500. Def a lot of money for br, but came out to be 33 USD per person which is not bad at all. I also learned that the cream cheese you see on pizza is called capupiry, a Brazilian invention.
On the business side, they agreed to spend any night with me for R1500, which is 500 less than the first time. At this point, I have gained control over the situation: I am the one to choose who and when. Larissa will come one night and her friend will come on a different night.
I be quick be fast on the details: I sent Marina back to usp as she had a class at 18 h. Larissa came back with me and spent the night for 1500. Sex was great, she pleased me in every way possible. When we weren't having sex, she was doing her homework on a thick hp laptop.
I sent her away in morning and gave her 1600 because I didn't have a 100 again. I promised to see her at least one more time this week so she doesn't have to work at Scandallo. I've already paid her R4200 for two overnight dates and she said that's enough to not work there for 2 weeks.
I still need to set up a date with Marina, she's very attractive and can speak English. I've been in com with her and will likely seal the deal on Friday. Lunch date then love hotel. Then dinner date with Larissa and back in my place as my overnight guest. Maybe they won't know or maybe they will. I am such a playboy haha.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3081353]Great reporting Spbrlove. I will be in SP 2nd week of Sept.
Which place are you staying? Do you recommend it?
Hopefully we can meet if you are in town.[/QUOTE]Our stays will overlap. Maybe we can check out Gauguin together? I don't want to say where I stay on the public forum. But can tell you if we get to meet.
[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3081352]Hey Buddy,
Love the way you are describing your journey. Good writings, appreciate your time and effort to the contribution..[/QUOTE]No sub unfortunately. Are you in town? I can tell you where I will be today.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081432]Quick recap from the last episode:
I sent away the 2 hot college chicks at 7 am on Tuesday. One of them was wearing the same underwear she had worn for at least 36 hrs. It was at some point in my mouth, then her mouth and her friend's mouth. She probably had to wear it for 10 more hours until she has the chance to change it. The other one left wearing the lingerie I bought and she pretended it was hers.
Larissa is the drama one who wants to sideline Taina. She was the one who came early before the schedule 3 some
I still need to set up a date with Marina, she's very attractive and can speak English. I've been in com with her and will likely seal the deal on Friday. Lunch date then love hotel. Then dinner date with Larissa and back in my place as my overnight guest. Maybe they won't know or maybe they will. I am such a playboy haha.[/QUOTE]Brasilian Garota drama is no joke. I had three hot loiras brancas. In rio we did fun foursome all the time for weeks. In.
Panda. One drama garota suggested we go separately with another young college garota and not tell the quadrilha. We had a wassap group. Dude ini won't do hidden shit in brasil again. Wayy too much drama.
Now I man up and tell them all the agenda. This is brasil so I going to be sex truth with each of you, going to bang you all individually sometime, threesomes sometime and as quadrila. So each garota had to accept or not my hard truth -- I am going to mix and match whatever and whenever in exchange for not bullshitting them or hiding nothing from garotas that know each other. Yeah I going to bang your garota. The price I set is same for all.
Nada extra. Non.
I have had peace of mind ever since with other three some four some garotas. The orginial one is still fucked up situationZ.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081432]Quick recap from the last episode:
I sent away the 2 hot college chicks at 7 am on Tuesday. One of them was wearing the same underwear she had worn for at least 36 hrs. It was at some point in my mouth, then her mouth and her friend's mouth. She probably had to wear it for 10 more hours until she has the chance to change it. The other one left wearing the lingerie I bought and she pretended it was hers.
Larissa is the drama one who wants to sideline Taina. She was the one who came early before the schedule 3 some date to get free lunch, lingerie and my semen in her mouth. She already told me that she wants to introduce her friends to meto for threesomes. But I would just love to meet her friends and have twosomes. I feel that threesomes at 4000 a night is very expensive if done too often. I pay 4000 for 12 hours and they each do half of the work. I would much rather spend 2000 a night for 2 different nights with just one at a time.
Anyways, she showed me 3 or 4 of her friends who are also working in the biz. I picked one and purposed for a lunch date. I simplify asked Larissa to come out for a nice Italian lunch near her uni with that friend. She managed to get it arranged in less than 10 minutes of typing on her phone.
I found a very fancy Italian restaurant inside El Dorado mall. So yesterday, I ordered them a uber to from their college, and myself a uber to meet there at 2 pm.
We all arrived within 5 minutes of each other, and it was tongue kiss again with Larissa, and just cheek kiss with her friend Marina..[/QUOTE]Bro has achieved legend status after 9 posts on this forum. Please consider getting a premium so we can DM.
I think you should check out Gauguin. It is scandalos twin sister, slightly cheaper and calmer. Some girls work in both places. Gauguin is more my cup of tea.
Great to hear about your weeks in SP.
Great info on this thread.
I'm arriving in Moema SP Saturday 12 Sep for the week, if anyone wants to meet for a beer guess let me know on here.
I don't have a sub.
I'm interested in natural, uni age girls and will try the clubs.
What do you mean by pop up, can this be arranged on clinic's WhatsApp? Gêmeos morenas were on my Bucket list for so many years.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3081264]
Espao Morumbi -- nice selection of garotas to chat with, high turnover, mature, experienced gartoas. The gmeos morenas pop up here for twins action. Garotas here are excited to visit swingy club Innerclub next door. Has a nibus inside the club.
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[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3081486]Bro has achieved legend status after 9 posts on this forum. Please consider getting a premium so we can DM.
I think you should check out Gauguin. It is scandalos twin sister, slightly cheaper and calmer. Some girls work in both places. Gauguin is more my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Not trying to throw shade but anybody can be a legend if you pay 2000 brl each to two hot girls in Brazil.
That's a sizable chunk of change.
To each with their own money of course and what's a pretty penny for me could be chump change for someone else.
2000 seems to be the going rate for hot girls in São Paulo for overnight.
I just remember the guy who went to Scandallo back in 2020 when you could get a girl for 500 brl and one of the hottest girls came up to him and just told him straight up name his price and she'the agree because she wanted to bang him anyways. He said 300 and off they went LOL.
Love the reports from spbrlove.
Really detailed and informational.
The new college girl is hot for sure just from the pics and the stories continues.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;3081633]What do you mean by pop up, can this be arranged on clinic's WhatsApp? Gmeos morenas were on my Bucket list for so many years.[/QUOTE]Absolutely — here's the same text with spelling, grammar, and punctuation cleaned up while keeping your slang and tone:
The Gemini morena twins don't have a set schedule. They "pop up" to work at different CLínicas whenever they need gana. I have banged them at 57 Friends / Chanes, Maytreia, and Espaço Morumbi. Yes, as soon as a CLínica WhatsApp status advertises "Gêmeos garota," book them right away. They are not identical and they are flaky, sometimes not showing up even though a CLínica says "on their way. ".
The most consistent place for identical twins is Scandallo. It was weird as fvck getting a BBJ from identical loira twins. I am seriously scarred from seeing a two-headed garota giving me a BJ at the same time. Kkk, if ya know, ya know.
Tip of the day: CLínica Vanity, or Vani Way, is a hood CLínica. Damn, the fotos look nothing like the garotas. If you like strung-out, street-hood garotas, that's the place. Kkk.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3081693Not trying to throw shade but anybody can be a legend if you pay 2000 brl each to two hot girls in Brazil. I just remember the guy who went to Scandallo back in 2020 when you could get a girl for 500 brl and one of the hottest girls came up to him and just told him straight up name his price and she'd agree because she wanted to bang him anyways. He said 300 and off they went LOL.]
It's a bit high, but for a first-timer with no Portuguese, 2000 BRL for overnight for a really hot one isn't that crazy. 1200 BRL for an hour on site seems to be the going price these days. Of course experienced guys like Tochka can get it for way less. As they should given their knowledge of the terrain.
[QUOTE=Combo;3081730]For good or bad, most of us are a bit (or a lot) older and we need to pay and have the money to do it. Which is why we're on this forum.[/QUOTE]But that's not a justification for grossly overpaying. For anything.
I touchdown in SP early Saturday morning. This is virgin soil for me and I have high hopes. Let's see what fun I can get into. Shoutout to JZeleznik for recommending staying in East Pinheiros based on my intended goal of visiting Casarao frequently.
I get to Casarao a little before midnight and it's got a good crowd. Plenty of girls and not too packed. The quality of the girls here is like a pyramid. Plenty of 6's and 7's at the foundation and as you go up in quality, the numbers decrease significantly. From my initial impression, the advantage Casarao has is the sheer quantity of girls. Surely you're bound to find a 7 or 8 that is your type. And on most nights, there will probably be a few absolute gems. I spot my first gem as I walk downstairs and order a drink. She is a stunner and could be a model on Jupiter. She is on par with the hottest girls I've seen in Colombia. Sadly, she is in a group of 4 dudes, and they don't seem keen to set her free.
I walk around Casarao to survey what's available and don't find any more gems. Although, I do spot 2-3 other girls that I would be more than happy to spend time with. I settle by the pool downstairs and then she walks by. The most beautiful girl in the club. She's tall, easily one of the tallest girls in the entire place and taller than many of the guys. She's got curly hair and a gorgeous face. She's wearing a flowy outfit that obscures unknown, uncharted curves beneath. As she walks, her strides are regal and elegant.
I can tell I really like her by how my body responds. I am nervous to approach her. At this point, you're probably wondering why I would be anxious about approaching a working girl. It's simple, I care about chemistry. Sex with a hot girl just doesn't do it for me anymore. There has to be some mutual attraction. Money will definitely help, but lack of chemistry is the norm.
When she walks by after getting a drink, I say Hello, and we begin chatting. I don't speak enough Portuguese to carry a conversation, but I got lucky and she speaks some Spanish. She tells me her name is Ruth (not her real name) and I tease her saying that Ruth is an old ladies name where I am from. After some banter, I take a step back and admire her beauty. I shake my head in disbelief and she asks me what I am thinking. I tell her the plain truth. I can't believe she exists and I am incredibly lucky to find her on my first day in Brazil. I would pay Scandallo prices for this girl. Well it's my lucky day, she offers an hour at 700. Not one to take an initial offer and wanting to get a gauge on Brazilian bartering, I tried 3 times to get her to go down to 600. She doesn't budge, and I happily settle on 700 and we go next door to get a room. Oh the way out, we stop by the mirrors so I can check us out. I only stand a bit taller than her shoulder.
We end up getting a newer room - #203. It's clean enough, spacious, has music, a toilet, and a shower. She puts on some music and starts dancing Samba. Turns out she dances samba professionally. And as the clothes come off to reveal her curves; her body is an equal match for her face. She's got small tits, a spectacular ass, and a dancer's well-toned body. She's flawless head to toe; there's nothing else I can think of to improve her looks. She is without a doubt, the hottest girl I have ever been intimate with.
After we dance together some; she asks for payment upfront. Keep in mind that I am completely enthralled by Ruth, so I am thinking to myself, "I'm sure it's fine. It's just money. I don't want to mess up the vibe. " But, the forum homies are there in spirit and shaking their heads. So I show her that I have the money, and will give it to her afterwards. She doesn't accept. I change tactics and offer her half now and half after. She accepts and puts the money in her purse and pulls out a condom. I think to myself, "oh fuck. I'm a noob, I forgot to tell her I wanted a BBBJ. Nooooooooo! Lady luck saves my dumb ass and she gives me a BBBJ. And then she licks my balls and then she goes where no other latina has gone for me. She starts licking my taint. I'm sure if I lifted by butt she would have licked my asshole too, but I wasn't ready for that. The BJ was okay; I'm sure she can do better if I continue to see her.
Afterwards, we smash and I would love to say it was incredible but it was just okay. We like to have sex differently. I like slow, intentional sex and she likes hard, aggressive sex. During sex, she motions me to put my hand on her throat, so I start choking her. Not my thing. Also, Ruth is loud. The most vocal girl I have ever been with. And her moans turn into almost screaming when I thrust aggressively. Lastly, her pussy stank.
This is all a bit jarring for me so I lose my boner mid-sex. Am I disappointed? Nope! I can appreciate that we don't have sex chemistry. I take the condom off and we dance and shower. At this point, we only have 20 minutes left and I think things are coming to an end. I hop in bed after the shower and to my surprise, she joins me and resumes licking my taint. I get hard again and then we do it doggystyle. I didn't finish, but I was very pleasantly surprised there was a round 2, especially after we had already showered. We leave together and even though I didn't nut, I have that stupid look on my face that all men have post-nut.
All in all, what an amazing night! I love Brazil already. For me, Colombia finally has some real competition.
Welcome to Heaven Chance. Great report. You def did good reading the forum and pushing for up front and closing on half up front. That's pro level. Def lucky on the BBBJ tho esp at Casarao. There is a CBJ epidemic there. Got to stick to our guns fellas!
Assume you will make it to Scandallo? You have to go at least one night to experience it.
Good report, Chance. I learned a new word: taint = perineum as in "She starts licking my taint". KKK!
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3081753]I touchdown in SP early Saturday morning. This is virgin soil for me and I have high hopes. Let's see what fun I can get into. Shoutout to JZeleznik for recommending staying in East Pinheiros based on my intended goal of visiting Casarao frequently.
I get to........[/QUOTE]Great 1st day report, thanks for sharing. I am kinda new to SP as well. Arrived just over a week ago. So far I am having only good times. This weekend has been great, I will be writing a lengthy report tomorrow.
I wonder if there is a better way for us to connect. I can't send DMs. But if you are down, we could hit up Gauguin on Wednesday. I will be wearing a sky blue polo shirt. I am here for 3 more weeks.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3081753]
This is all a bit jarring for me so I lose my boner mid-sex. Am I disappointed? Nope! I can appreciate that we don't have sex chemistry. I take the condom off and we dance and shower. At this point, we only have 20 minutes left and I think things are coming to an end. I hop in bed after the shower and to my surprise, she joins me and resumes licking my taint. I get hard again and then we do it doggystyle. I didn't finish, but I was very pleasantly surprised there was a round 2, especially after we had already showered. We leave together and even though I didn't nut, I have that stupid look on my face that all men have post-nut.
All in all, what an amazing night! I love Brazil already. For me, Colombia finally has some real competition.[/QUOTE]Hey Chance, another bit of advice though this is a bit weirder than AirBNB locations. I typically pop a generic viagra (Sildenafila 50 MG) if I'm going to fuck a new girl for the first time. My plumbing all works fine, but if a girl's service isn't great or I find something about her off putting once we get to the room, that plus using a condom can be enough to cause some issues. However I find the sildenafila ensures I can make the best of it and get to a nut. I spot a girl, take it, and then chat with her for maybe 20-30 minutes before we go off. It lasts a while so if she doesn't work out I still have time to find someone else. You can get it at any pharmacy without a prescription, or even delivered via Rappi.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3081753]
I settle by the pool downstairs and then she walks by. The most beautiful girl in the club. She's tall, easily one of the tallest girls in the entire place and taller than many of the guys. She's got curly hair and a gorgeous face. She's wearing a flowy outfit that obscures unknown, uncharted curves beneath. As she walks, her strides are regal and elegant.
I can tell I really like her by how my body responds. I am nervous to approach her. At this point, you're probably wondering why I would be anxious about approaching a working girl. It's simple, I care about chemistry. Sex with a hot girl just doesn't do it for me anymore. There has to be some mutual attraction. Money will definitely help, but lack of chemistry is the norm.
[/QUOTE]Hello Chance, I was in the club last night and I plan to be there tonight. I have a pretty good idea who you went with. I agree she is pretty, fun and as you said, amazing ass. No wonder she was a beauty queen. She is definitely tall, but wasn't the tallest in the club last night. I briefly spoke to the tallest girl in the club, a black girl Enjoy your trip!
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Time stamp: 3:23.
This is what Medellin has become. Some willing gringos are paying 1 k USD to bang a solid 3 (la noche).
Maybe she is lying, but I can see a recently divorced 55 year old flying down for the weekend and pay that amount.
Luckily Brazil is many more hours away thus less gringos. We should keep it that way. Sorry if this is off-topic on SP thread. But don't Medellin my Sao Paulo.
Spent 4 days in SPO on my way in and out of Brazil.
Stayed at EZ Aclimação at villa mariana and I took two girls to my room without issues.
Cassaro. All 4 nights I made it to cassaro after 11:00 pm and stayed until 2:00 am. Decent talent and going price around R400/30 mins and R800/1 HR. Couple of sessions each night and did not disappoint. New rooms are much better compared to the old rooms and they even have music collection on the console for the guests to choose. All night quotes were around R1800 to 2200.
Scandalo. Met couple of form members there for some social time. On a Monday night it was really slow.
Day time hit multiple clinic in Moema and Villa Marina.
Clinica RED: went out to see a someone I have seen In the past and also tried other options. Not a younger lineup but if your are into MILFs, worth checking WhatsApp status in the morning. 3 decent sessions and no complaints at the price.
Clinica Prime: only one session with Fernanda and definitely worth the visit.
Abbobara: decent lineup everyday. Visited two times and picked a girl from lineup both times. Much better talent compared to Prime or RED or Miruna.
Yakin- my favorite hang out spot in walking distance to my hotel. One girl to my liking also named Fernanda. I had two sessions with her and definitely worth the price. Plan on seeing her again in Nov.
Steve. Yes of course! I plan on going to Scandallo next Thurs.
Spbrlove. I have no plans to check out Gauguin. But will definitely be at Casarao 2-3 x a week. Scandallo next Thurs. I want to see these biology students!
JZeleznik. Indeed! I have some tadalafil. It wasn't enough to overcome everything happening in the moment.
Lalabo. I wasn't planning on going out Sun, but I'm glad I did! Thanks for dropping all the wisdom. I feel like a seasoned Casarao expert now!
Last Friday was my 1 week anniversary in SP. I just needed to close the deal with Marina, the hot branca who speaks perfect english. We already scheduled to have lunch, followed by sex which I had been expecting since I first met her.
The day started early, I woke up with a super hard dick. I knew I needed to do a bust so I can last long with Marina. This was 7:30 in the morning and no place was open. I text some contacts that I collected and one got back to me very quickly: the fit morena. I met her last week in a clinic and got her WA. The deal was 2 hours for R800 before her shift. I told her my address and asked her to bring her ID. I was about to offered her an uber ride but she asked me to meet at Eucaliptos metro station. I said yes ma'am, haha, even better.
She was 10 minutes late but no big deal. When we arrived at my building, we just walked right in. I think we both were in gym clothes and the guard did not think twice. Although if he paid attention he would have noticed that I left alone and back with a hottie haha.
We showered together then I took her went straight to bed. She asked if she should bring the towel and I said no don't bother. I did turn the ac on heat as the morning was a bit chilly. I fuck her in doggie and we were super wet. I could not keep my hands off from her ass. She is the fittest woman I've ever been with. Nice ass, quads, arms, and small firm tits. The total time spent was just under 2 hours from metro to metro. Will repeat with her for sure.
After dropped her off at the metro station, I sit in the mall for a while until it was time to meet Marina. She arrived by uber paid by herself. We went to a place called Moema Natural which was R55 a person. It's a nice instagram place with ok food, basically a salad bar. But she couldn't stop raving about setup and food. So I guess she is very shallow.
I really wanted to bring her back to the same bed where I just fucked the "wnba player" but chose not to. I did not want to cause problems with the security guard. I booked a ecomonico hotel 1. 5 km away. It was 50 USD a night. I showed her the pics and she said fine. We ubered there and had no problem checking in. Then, as the lady was showing us to our room, she asked if we had bags. I was going to say we didn't because I was sex tourist. But Marina reacted faster and said the stuff was in the car, which I thought was a better answer.
With her, we started in shower too, and I knew I wanted to do exactly the same as I did in the morning. I took her straight to bed super wet. She didn't like it but didn't complain much. I started by eating her out until he came. Then I fucked her in several positions until I finally came. I lasted so long which was kinda shocking even for me. We later did a 2nd round before I said we should head out. The price agreed on was R1000. Total time spent was also just under 2 hours. I insisted on checking out at the reception so I didn't need to return. She clearly didn't want to be there for that haha. The lady certainly figured what we did and kept giving me dirty looks. In my defense, we left the room clean, with some damp towels and sheets behind, nothing more. Maybe they will block me, or I will use that place again next year.
Review on Marina: very attractive girl, studying business in USP. 22 years young. No tats all natural. Fluent English, total GFE. Very cute face flawless body. I like her look better than Larissa, but lari is sluttier.
I ordered Marina an uber back to her dorm, which is a soviet style building on campus. She said I could go visit her next week.
Meanwhile, Larissa had been texting me crazy, once again, sending me selfies and shit. I only replied with some cute emojis because I was busy with her friend.
She met me at the mall with a tongue kiss in front of everyone, just like last time. We've been intimate many times and I just wanted to spoil her (weak on my part). I took her shopping first. Bought her things I wanted her to wear on our future dates: a blue floral dress and a white dress. She wanted another lingerie but I said I want her to wear nothing underneath.
For dinner, I picked namaste Indian restaurant. I ordered chicken korma, chicken biryani, chana masala, a naan to share, a mango smoothie and a bottle of agua com gas. Total was over r300. The food was average as far as Indian food goes, but it is something for a Brazilian first timer. She took photos of each dish and posted on her insta. I think our next date would be to a Thai place. Then we will do Lebanese, greek etc.
After dinner we ubered back while holding hands. I knew I needed to fuck her wet just like I did to the other 2 chicks. I will save some words here. In short, Larissa did everything to please, never complained and never got tired. She did not have to study like last time, I fucked her twice that night.
Sat morning came around, I gave her $1600, but I didn't want her to leave. She didn't seem to want to leave either. So I said I would give her 1600 more on Monday morning if she stays sat and Sunday. She agreed without any hesitation. She's cheaper now, make be I can get her to 5000 a week? We will see.
We spent of rest of Sat visiting Itaim and Vila Madelena: food, coffee, acai and more food. SP can be expensive if you spend your money in Itaim, but the GFE was quite worth it.
Sunday was her study day, so we stayed in and had sex when she needed a break from her college assignments. She also started to have period so that was fun.
I sent her away this morning and will see her again this weekend from Friday afternoon to Monday morning. She left like 3 hours ago and is already texting me stuff. I like this chick, we just have better chemistry.
Plan this week: tour of USP, followed by another round with Marina. At least 1 visit to Gauguin. Then Larissa on Friday (unless I find another gem).
Does anyone know if Gauguin is worth visiting on Monday? I plan to visit there mid week but can go tonight. Also what's the entrance price, time cut off and minimal consumption?
Attached pics: fit morena, a pic of Larissa shopping, and a pic of her eating acai.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3081896]Spbrlove. I have no plans to check out Gauguin. But will definitely be at Casarao 2-3 x a week. Scandallo next Thurs. I want to see these biology students![/QUOTE]Haha, unfortunately one of the marine bio students is on an exclusive assignment to determine what sexual activities cause maximum male satisfaction with sample size of one.
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3081816]Abbobara: decent lineup everyday. Visited two times and picked a girl from lineup both times. Much better talent compared to Prime or RED or Miruna.[/QUOTE]Zulu, can you confirm if the 1st picture below is from Abbobara?
Still need to figure out where 2nd place is.
How do you guys keep your Brazilian phone numbers?
I recargar 25 reais every month so the number stays active. I wonder if there is a better way. I have claro prepaid.
Salute to all the real bros hitting Casarao 3 x+ a week.
Honestly starting to feel like they have the same garotas every time I roll in at 0130 am, wearing the exact same clothes kkk. At this point I only hunt fresh newbies straight off the omnibus from MG.
Sat night at the downstairs bar I spot this cute 28 yo half-Lebanese half-branca garota. Fast negotiate, 500 BRL for the hour, done deal. While waiting for drinks, some half-drunk dude tries barging in on my play.
Told the mofo he could have her back as soon as I was done splooging in her mouth She suggests we bail from the bar and grab drinks at the Smart Hotel reception instead—they receptionist do those heavy whiskey pours. Grabbed my favorite room (#2), paid for garota, room, drinks everything by card.
Our Session started solid she swallowed the whole leche load, full gulp, zero spittle. Told her to get ready for round two of throating. She worked it nasty to get the second swallow down, total gurgling sound kkk.
That said, ONE AND DONE for me. Her outfits were straight-up optical illusions hiding a soft, fat Middle Eastern body yup Lebanese body on brasiluan face. Instead of a tight brasilian bikini buld. Total scam physique. Everything on her body just collapsed to the floor the second the all her support gear came off.
Later back at casarao Saw that same fool dancing with her by the stage. Zero interest on my end.
Though She was visibly pissed at him for just hovering around dancing, drinking feeling her up for free and not taking her next door for a session.
Complete waste of time for her kkk.
I followed that hunt with a 450 brl / hour, run in with a freaky, skinny black garota. She's on IG, clear work done on the face / nose and a fresh set of bolt-ONS.
She a total freaky enjoying every last drop of leftover leite, then I bounced right back out into the cool night air of rua augusta.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3081896]
Lalabo. I wasn't planning on going out Sun, but I'm glad I did! Thanks for dropping all the wisdom. I feel like a seasoned Casarao expert now![/QUOTE]It was nice meeting you. I am sure you will have a great time in SP.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3081909]How do you guys keep your Brazilian phone numbers?
I recargar 25 reais every month so the number stays active. I wonder if there is a better way. I have claro prepaid.[/QUOTE]Claro employee told me that prepaid SIM is active for 3 months, not for 45 days or so like I thought. AS long as SIM is reloaded within that period it should work.
Claro prepaid was the only option I had until this trip. It gave me option to switch to Claro Flex plan during my current trip. According to a Claro's employee, the flex plan offers permanent number and you can buy and cancel plans anytime. He recommended cancelling the plan before I leave Brazil and get a plan when I arrive in Brazil. I am trying it and I have to see if it works the way the employee said it would.
Hopefully you will get better info from more experienced members on this topic.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081433]Our stays will overlap. Maybe we can check out Gauguin together? I don't want to say where I stay on the public forum. But can tell you if we get to meet.
... [/QUOTE]Yes sure at Spbrlove, lets plan on meeting at Gauguin on 9th.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3081909]How do you guys keep your Brazilian phone numbers?
I recargar 25 reais every month so the number stays active. I wonder if there is a better way. I have claro prepaid.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for Claro, but I've had the same TIM number for a few years now and have never added funds outside Brazil. All I did was add funds when I arrive in GRU and the number remained active. The longest stretch between trips was about 11 months. Maybe I've been lucky.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3081953]Yes sure at Spbrlove, lets plan on meeting at Gauguin on 9th.[/QUOTE]I get in on the 10th, would love to join one of these meetups. Ill be there a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3081905]Haha, unfortunately one of the marine bio students is on an exclusive assignment to determine what sexual activities cause maximum male satisfaction with sample size of one.
Zulu, can you confirm if the 1st picture below is from Abbobara?
Still need to figure out where 2nd place is.[/QUOTE]The 2nd one is definitely Yankin. The first pic looks like Abbobara, the couch right in front of the staircase.
Purchased it online right after I arrived in Brazil. Followed instructions to activate sim and couldn't not connect to network. Went up to vivo store in a near by mall and they reactivated the sim or fixed something and worked with out an issue for rest of my trip. I can also confirm google fi service worked without an issue in rural Brazil.
[QUOTE=Wavarry;3082088]I get in on the 10th, would love to join one of these meetups. Ill be there a few weeks.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pk099;3081953]Yes sure at Spbrlove, lets plan on meeting at Gauguin on 9th.[/QUOTE]Why don't we meet on the 10th? There would be 3 of us. I can't do F. Sun as I am the test subject of a marine bio student haha. Unless something happens until then (like meeting someone hotter and sluttier).
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3082095]The 2nd one is definitely Yankin. The first pic looks like Abbobara, the couch right in front of the staircase.[/QUOTE]Ok, I still need to check out Abbobara, maybe I will go on Thursday. I don't recall that area in Yankin, maybe I passed it without noticing? I just remember getting 20 girls coming at me one by one. Some of them were shy and did not want to kiss me near the window to be seen by pedestrians.
[QUOTE=Wavarry;3082088]I get in on the 10th, would love to join one of these meetups. Ill be there a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, we can meet on 10th evening.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3082109]
Ok, I still need to check out Abbobara, maybe I will go on Thursday. I don't recall that area in Yankin, maybe I passed it without noticing? I just remember getting 20 girls coming at me one by one. Some of them were shy and did not want to kiss me near the window to be seen by pedestrians.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is a problem with clinicas. They come give quick introductions and move on. It is very hard to gauge them.
Yankin got a little bar and sitting area where clients and girls hang around. I had few chats with girls in the bar and enquirer about their menu.
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3082194]Yes, that is a problem with clinicas. They come give quick introductions and move on. It is very hard to gauge them. Yankin got a little bar and sitting area where clients and girls hang around. I had few chats with girls in the bar and enquirer about their menu.[/QUOTE]The website for Yankin is directing to "Massagem Ana Rosa":
[URL]https://massagemanarosa.com.br/[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3082204]The website for Yankin is directing to "Massagem Ana Rosa":
[URL]https://massagemanarosa.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen it when I tried to access their website on [URL]mapagp.com[/URL].
Not sure if it is a name change. The pictures dont match Yankin.
I've been to Casarao 4 times now and wow. I knew I would love this place based on my preferences, and it sure hasn't disappointed.
I really like that while it is a club, it is not crazy loud. It's designed for people to talk without yelling to be heard. Every day that I have gone, there have been several girls that have caught my attention. I am starting to familiarize myself with the regulars. It's hard to say, but it seems that about at least half the girls are regulars.
On with the reports. A defeat and a success.
As I am about to leave one of the nights, I decide to chat with one final girl. I start chatting with this cute girl with an amazing, natural body. While there isn't much chemistry, there also isn't much of a reason to leave. So we continue chatting and eventually she asks me to buy her a drink. Since I still had some consumable left over, I oblige her. I didn't have any intentions to take her next door until she bent over at the bar to order her drink. Fuck chemistry, that ass is spectacular! The guys standing next to her and I couldn't stop admiring her cheeks. I get the universal male nods of approval. I guess I will be sleeping with this girl =). I start my offer at 300 for 30 minutes. She wants 400, and eventually we settle for 350. I tell her I want a BBBJ. She agrees and off we go next door. In the room she tries to be slick and says it's 50 extra for the BBBJ. I tell her no and that we agreed to 350 and she didn't say anything about the extra 50 earlier for BBBJ. I don't like her enough to put up with her shit and leave. ** Cue arguments of it's just 50 extra vs it's not about money, but principal.
The following night, I spot this girl that looks completely out of place at Casarao. She's the one vegetarian in a crowd of carnivores. I take this cue to potentially signal that she is new or doesn't do this often. I go over to her and she lights up immediately. My intuition was right, this girl was wayyyy too sweet for this place. She is super cute and has a petite figure. She is not my usual type, but she is very engaging and I'm tired of talking to predators. She speaks portuguese, spanish, and english. We end up chatting in all three languages. She is the first girl that I have spoken to that has a real stable job. After a really long time chatting, I offer her 300 for 30 minutes. She counters 450. I get her down to 400, but she gets me back to 450 once I mention I want a BBBJ. We go next door and smash. BBBJ and sex were okay.
Sidenote. Does anyone else think the hottest girl at Casarao is actually the firefighter lady? Man is she a hottie! If only she was available T_T.
One final thing. I'll be Casarao tonight. Tan chinos, gray dark dress shirt.
Hey boys,
Only my second time visiting Brazil and first mongering. I'm there on business so my time is limited to only outcalls I think. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. Very familiar with Europe and US but completely clueless with Brazil. Thanks all! PM me with recs.
Long time no post, did you guys miss me?
Just wrapped 2 weeks in SP. Despite being centrally located of all the actions, I only had 2 sessions (short and long) the past week.
Wednesday I had a 2nd date with Marina. This time she stayed longer, 3.5 hours, damage was 1500 plus dinner afterwards. She is so damn hot. I popped 3 times all in missionary to make my money worth it. She was on her phone a lot this time. But still solid performance.
Friday Larissa came over again, stayed until tonight. She said she has a morning test and wanted to be in Butana to avoid morning traffic. She told me beforehand so it was not a problem. Gave her 3000 for 50 hours of "work", which came out to be 12 usd an hour.
My trip has taken an unexpected turn. I spent 2 weekends Larissa with Larissa. Was hoping to do quantity, but I am settled for quality.
This week I plan to take full advantage of my time in br, will be headed to Curitiba, either tomorrow or on Tuesday. Hopefully I get to have some polish / Ukrainian encounters. I plan on coming back on the 10th if the two fellow igsers are still interested to meet in Gauguin.
My next report will be in Curitiba thread.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3082794] Just wrapped 2 weeks in SP. Despite being centrally located of all the actions, I only had 2 sessions (short and long) the past week.[/QUOTE]KKK, welcome to the club! It kills me to say this, but I was 100% monogamous (at night) on my last two (4+ weeks) visits to SP and what's worse, I will most likely continue my monogamous evening activities when I return in October. What can I say? My branca, spinner, Scandallo girl has really got me! The lost opportunity costs astound me! But all I can say is, thank Buddha for my afternoon clinica visits.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBJB8_Pmao&t=9s[/URL]
[QUOTE=InTheSticks317;3082680]Hey boys,
Only my second time visiting Brazil and first mongering. I'm there on business so my time is limited to only outcalls I think. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. Very familiar with Europe and US but completely clueless with Brazil. Thanks all! PM me with recs.[/QUOTE]In SP I think the reference for no time to waste and outcall only is this:
[URL]https://gparena.net/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.fatalmodel.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://splove.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo[/URL]
The first one is probably your best bet. Or you can go to scandalo to see them in person, but it will cost you 2000 br and more.
[QUOTE=InTheSticks317;3082680]Hey boys,
Only my second time visiting Brazil and first mongering. I'm there on business so my time is limited to only outcalls I think. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. Very familiar with Europe and US but completely clueless with Brazil. Thanks all! PM me with recs.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL]
If you are limited to outcall to your hotel, please check photoacompahantes as well. You can search based on location and contact provider on WhatsApp.
Few things to keep in mind based on personal experience.
Price increases by 10 o to 200 reals as soon as they see your international phone number.
Pictures could be enchanted.
Language barrier could be a problem but possible to work around with Google Translate.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3082891]In SP I think the reference for no time to waste and outcall only is this:
[URL]https://gparena.net/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.fatalmodel.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://splove.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo[/URL]
The first one is probably your best bet. Or you can go to scandalo to see them in person, but it will cost you 2000 br and more.[/QUOTE]Thank you my friend!
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3082896][URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL]
If you are limited to outcall to your hotel, please check photoacompahantes as well. You can search based on location and contact provider on WhatsApp.
Few things to keep in mind based on personal experience.
Price increases by 10 o to 200 reals as soon as they see your international phone number.
Pictures could be enchanted.
Language barrier could be a problem but possible to work around with Google Translate.[/QUOTE]Appreciate you my guy!
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3082504]I'm tired of talking to predators. [/QUOTE]KKKKK, This was too funny.
Carasao is my favorite and found myself visiting the place every nights.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3082891]In SP I think the reference for no time to waste and outcall only is this:
[URL]https://gparena.net/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.fatalmodel.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://splove.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo[/URL]
The first one is probably your best bet. Or you can go to scandalo to see them in person, but it will cost you 2000 br and more.[/QUOTE]You forgot gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL], the go to guide for Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3082121]Sounds good, we can meet on 10th evening.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wavarry;3082088]I get in on the 10th, would love to join one of these meetups. Ill be there a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Guys, I won't be back on the 10th. Going to take a detour while in Curitiba to check out an "interior" city, hometown of an amiga. Report will be in Curitiba thread.
Plan to be back on Friday. Would be down to do something anytime from Tuesday to Thursday next week.
I will be going back on Sunday, so can't make next week.
I just came to Gauguin to check it out. It seems slow (Tuesday around midnight.).
Will stay here for 1 HR to see if gets better.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3083105]Guys, I won't be back on the 10th. Going to take a detour while in Curitiba to check out an "interior" city, hometown of an amiga. Report will be in Curitiba thread.
Plan to be back on Friday. Would be down to do something anytime from Tuesday to Thursday next week.[/QUOTE]
I was at Gauguin last nigth until 1 am. Pricing is 350 with 200 for drinks consumption or 500 with 500 drinks consumption.
There were enough girls but most with fake silicon bodies.
Found one girl with natural body (Viviane). She wanted 2000, settled for 1500, she was not ready to lower price below 1500.
Took her upstairs (BR $ 250 for room). She has good body and sex was ok, she did not disappoint but nothing spectacular.
Overall it was good experience.
I plan to go Casarao tonight to check the scene there.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3083178]I will be going back on Sunday, so can't make next week.
I just came to Gauguin to check it out. It seems slow (Tuesday around midnight.).
Will stay here for 1 HR to see if gets better.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pk099;3083260]I was at Gauguin last nigth until 1 am. Pricing is 350 with 200 for drinks consumption or 500 with 500 drinks consumption. There were enough girls but most with fake silicon bodies. Found one girl with natural body (Viviane). She wanted 2000, settled for 1500, she was not ready to lower price below 1500. Took her upstairs (BR $ 250 for room). She has good body and sex was ok, she did not disappoint but nothing spectacular. Overall it was good experience. I plan to go Casarao tonight to check the scene there.[/QUOTE]Don't pay Scandallo prices at Gauguin! You're going to ruin the market differentiation here! I was the very first one to report on Gauguin here giving it some press. Now, I feel like I rue the day I did that with mongers going and overpaying like they're at Scandallo! And it doesn't matter if it's a girl who works at both clubs. I don't give a damn! That would be like saying she should be able to go to Casarao or a clinica and demand Scandallo money. Guys stop paying Scandallo prices at Gauguin or anywhere else! Scandallo is alone at top of the market. Gauguin is "Scandallo Lite", and the pricing must reflect that. So, if a girl at Gauguin (or anywhere else) won't be reasonable and insists on Scandallo money, then man just walk away! Don't contribute to ruining market differentiation between the various clubs, clinicas, and escorts!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3083262]Don't pay Scandallo prices at Gauguin! You're going to ruin the market differentiation here! I was the very first one to report on Gauguin here giving it some press. Now, I feel like I rue the day I did that with mongers going and overpaying like they're at Scandallo! And it doesn't matter if it's a girl who works at both clubs. I don't give a damn! That would be like saying she should be able to go to Casarao or a clinica and demand Scandallo money. Guys stop paying Scandallo prices at Gauguin or anywhere else! Scandallo is alone at top of the market. Gauguin is "Scandallo Lite", and the pricing must reflect that. So, if a girl at Gauguin (or anywhere else) won't be reasonable and insists on Scandallo money, then man just walk away! Don't contribute to ruining market differentiation between the various clubs, clinicas, and escorts![/QUOTE]What is a reason price at Gauguin?? Around 1000 BRZ??
[QUOTE=Pk099;3083260]She wanted 2000, settled for 1500, she was not ready to lower price below 1500.
[/QUOTE]My research 6 months ago showed fair price to be around 800-1200 for Gauguin. I paid 1000 for the hour back in March, with a different woman of course. 1500 seems to be on the higher end for the talent level I saw. I usually have sex during the day before going to Gauguin and Scandallo so I can hold firm.
For Casarao, they like quote unreasonably high for gringos. But I know from experience, 99% of them will settle for 350-450 half, 500-600 hour. Maybe add 50 since 6 months have passed since my last visit. Many of the next door types will settle for 300 half hour. Please be firm tonight and report back haha.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3083262]I feel like I rue the day I did that with mongers going and overpaying like they're at Scandallo! And it doesn't matter if it's a girl who works at both clubs.[/QUOTE]I met a Loira at Gauguin who would not lower her price just because I am a gringo (she actually said that). She said 1500 reals was like nothing to me. She explicitly asked for my nationality before she offered me her price. She was actually hot, and I would have banged her a few times if she did not ruin the convo. Her loss I guess.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3083284]What is a reason price at Gauguin?? Around 1000 BRZ??[/QUOTE]In my opinion, the absolute max for Casarao should be 800 reals, and the absolute max for Gauguin at 1,000 reals. That's absolute max! And at Scandallo, I have it at 1,500 reals. That's my "2 cents" on it.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3083262]Don't pay Scandallo prices at Gauguin! ... [/QUOTE]Agree, it was a bad decision made with dick not brain. I should be more using my brain going froward.
[QUOTE=Pk099;3083309]Agree, it was a bad decision made with dick not brain. I should be more using my brain going froward.[/QUOTE]My take on it is that you can get laid in the clinicas for 200-300 reais so if you're going to pay 1500 it should be because you have to have just that one girl that refuses to accept anything under 1500.
And if you meet that ten out of ten or 9.5/10 in Gaugin you should pay what you have to pay. But don't spend 1500 on any average woman in Gaugin, or anywhere else in Brazil. It's your money and you choose how to spend it, but you shouldn't forsake your happiness nor waste your money.
1500 is a lot of money in Brazil so I would only pay it for memorable girls. Or at least that's my take on it.
Yep very important to have a sense of the typical range of pricing at a club. So you don't come in too low or too high. Both are bad. As a last resort if you're at a club but have not figured this out, ask the male staff and / or another patron.
Before you get to any $ discussion with a girl, it will help to casually mention you've been there several times before. Or you have a friend who has been there several times and he explained everything to you. So the girl knows you probably know the deal, vs being marked as a newbie.
For the offer, I am on the side that believes it's best to go first. Such as "I usually pay X. " and check her reaction. If you start at the lower but still reasonable end of the range, if the girl is still angling for more it's at least a bit more likely she will counter in the middle vs the upper end. Then it's less of a struggle to end up near or at your number.
Obviously this is a bit of an art, there will be various factors in play, different people will have their preferred approaches, and some girls will not budge no matter what. But these 3 points should be helpful to those with limited experience in the night clubs.
Reconnected with a Dona Beija Lookalike (Julia).
At Gauguin, So Paulo.
Damage: 350 entry after 9 pm + 200 brl consumable minimum.
250 brl room fee.
500 brl / one hour to the garota
Protip if you arrive 10 or 15 min after 9 pm and you know the manager, he will let the cashiers charge the before 9 pm price. But ya gotta whatsapp Gaugin in advanced of your going to be late.
I dipped into Gauguin last night at midnight. Total damage at the door was 350 BRL entry with 200 BRL locked in for consumables. The place was buzzing with new garotas.
After taking in the landscape of garotas, I got tapped on the shoulder.
I turn around and it's Julia, looking 8 to 9 /10 smoke show wearing a tight red dress. She's an absolute dead ringer for a young Ana Jacinta de So Jos (straight out of that Dona Beija telenovela).
She's is an absolute regular at the downstairs bars at Casaro, tonight was literally her Day 1 onboarding at Gauguin. She saw a familiar face in new & unfamiliar place --me.
And she cam over for a warm hug. I've seen her around Casaro before, but she never wore slinky red dresses over there, so she was completely off my radar until now.
We hit off in instant. I Spent about 30 minutes flirting and getting to know her better. I introduced her to the management, the floor staff, bouncers, and a few of the local bi-friendly garotas.
At the same time, I had to dodge the usual blonde "Swedish Bikini Team" types who always try to cold-pitch me into a session. (I just hit 'them back with local Gria).
The Deal.
I told her 500 BRL for a 1-hour session. No back-and-forth, zero negotiation, instant deal close.
We bounced upstairs. Since it was her first night at Gauguin, she clearly missed garota orientation kkk. I had to walk her through the house protocols myselfno phones, no purses allowed in the session rooms.
Side note: Dropping 250 BRL to that snarky cashier for room access always is a pain, the rooms at Gauguin are high-grade and clean.
The session itself wasTotal VIP treatment, super passionate, zero rush. At around the 45-minute mark, she finished the job with complete completion. She swallowed every last drop and left zero mess behind. Post-game involved a clean-up shower, settling 500 brl and getting her contact info for future endeavpr.
As you exit gaugin there is a delicious food truck by husband & wife team, burgers, hot sandwiches, cafezinho for cold nights.
Yes more english you speak the more ya going to pay.
I went out to Casarao yesterday on a mission. In my opinion, there are 3 stunners at Casarao that seem to be there frequently. They all hang out downstairs by the pool and usually invariably end up at a VIP table. Well, not tonight, if I have my way!
I get there around 11:40. After finding a table, I post up and check out the scenery. Nothing catches the eyes, and none of the aforementioned stunners are anywhere to be seen.
I bid my time until the pool area opens up at midnight. And right one cue, one of the stunners rolls in. And not just any one; it's the one I wanted the most. It's the same girl that caught my eye the very first time I was at Casarao. She was surrounded by dudes then, but tonight, she's mine. I make a direct beeline for her.
We begin chatting and thankfully she speaks English. She's a talker, so I happily listen. I am quite enamored by the Brazilian accent and could listen to her for days. She tells me she's from Minais Gerais, which I believe someone on the forum commented has the most beautiful women in Brazil. This girl is unbelievably voluptuous and full-bodied. It would be a disservice to call her a girl; she's a woman that mathematicians modeled the golden ratio after.
After about 20 minutes of chatting, she asks me what I want her to do in bed. I found it a bit strange and she responded, she likes to be clear and she likes to please. I usually only care about one thing, which is a BBBJ, and she agrees. She tells me 600 for 30 minutes. I counter with 500 and she accepts. I went pretty light on the negotiation with this one.
We go next door and do the deed. She wasn't lying when she said she seeks to please. Blowjob was good and we had sex all the way until the 30 minute mark. I tried resting multiple times, but everytime, she would be like, "let's resume, I want you to come. " What a great girl.
Afterwards I return to Casarao to hang out with a forum member. Pk099. Thanks for coming out and hanging! It was a pleasure.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3083495]Afterwards I return to Casarao to hang out with a forum member. Pk099. Thanks for coming out and hanging! It was a pleasure.[/QUOTE]Haha, great story buddy. It was nice meeting you too. I also enjoyed Casarao downstairs more than Gauguin or Scadallo. Here you can have good talk with less loud music.
On the [URL]https://splove.com.br[/URL] about 99% of the girls ask for some type of prepay % to cover their cab or whatever. But if you do not have a BR bank, how do you send them anything? Or how do you have them come to you?
[QUOTE=RealShaun;3083596]On the [URL]https://splove.com.br[/URL] about 99% of the girls ask for some type of prepay % to cover their cab or whatever. But if you do not have a BR bank, how do you send them anything? Or how do you have them come to you?[/QUOTE]You should just say you are a gringo and don't have pix. If they are good escorts, they'd be willing to get to you. If not, red flag.
I've seen least 4 of them in my building's lobby / roof / gym. If you want them so bad, book a moteis near moema and meet them there.
[QUOTE=RealShaun;3083596]On the [URL]https://splove.com.br[/URL] about 99% of the girls ask for some type of prepay % to cover their cab or whatever. But if you do not have a BR bank, how do you send them anything? Or how do you have them come to you?[/QUOTE]Has any one tried any of these girls? Some of them look really good?
I am old fashioned about pre paying and deposits. I won't do it as long as there are any other women available who don't ask for it. If it's someone known to me I don't mind sending an unber but that is it.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3083645]Has any one tried any of these girls? Some of them look really good?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3083650]I am old fashioned about pre paying and deposits. I won't do it as long as there are any other women available who don't ask for it. If it's someone known to me I don't mind sending an unber but that is it.[/QUOTE]Old fashioned nothing! That's just plain good judgment. It's simply too easy to get ripped off sending pre-payments and deposits. If an independent girl shows up to my room (or me to hers) and she's standing right in front of me and demands all of the money upfront I wouldn't give it to her. So, why the hell am I going to send a tute deposit money, especially one I don't know and have no relationship and / or history with? Not going to happen! That's just being smart, and has nothing to do about being "old fashioned". Don't send these hoors any payment upfront men! There are too many others out there not trying to pull this BS on us. Don't do it!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3083650]I am old fashioned about pre paying and deposits. I won't do it as long as there are any other women available who don't ask for it. If it's someone known to me I don't mind sending an unber but that is it.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I won't send an escort $$ Period. Besides, the ones I know will not let the deal go down on account of the cost of an Uber ride. If they insist on prepayment it is usually for a lot more money.
But there is a simple workaround to this issue. Just set up the date at her place! In fact, I prefer going to a girl's apartment provided it is in a decent neighborhood because it eliminates the wait. If we agree to meet at 8 pm. I am at her place at 8 pm. No wait. It's that simple.
[QUOTE=RealShaun;3083596]On the [URL]https://splove.com.br[/URL] about 99% of the girls ask for some type of prepay % to cover their cab or whatever. But if you do not have a BR bank, how do you send them anything? Or how do you have them come to you?[/QUOTE]I have met online escorts for outcall. Some of them would come to you for free. Those who ask for taxi money, I usually order them an uber. Those who insist on money are dismissed. Their loss.
[QUOTE=RealShaun;3083596]On the [URL]https://splove.com.br[/URL] about 99% of the girls ask for some type of prepay % to cover their cab or whatever. But if you do not have a BR bank, how do you send them anything? Or how do you have them come to you?[/QUOTE]You can get wise app, it now also sends PIX and actually is a great app / credit card that will work all around the world with good exchange rates on forex plus instant wire transfers in many countries, for a traveller it's very usefull.
I usually do online escorts those on splove an also private55 usually have very decent apartments that you can go so no need for outcall.
But you probably prefer your environment and I can understand that, if you are staying at an hotel they will probably call reception and confirm you are staying and can skip the upfront.
If it's just the ride you can use your uber account.
Some will ask for a symbolic fee to confirm the booking slot and that you are not a prankster and that is understandable and I would not have a problem with that from splove or private55, other sites and X or instagram I would not do it could be a scam.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3083659]Old fashioned nothing! That's just plain good judgment. It's simply too easy to get ripped off sending pre-payments and deposits. If an independent girl shows up to my room (or me to hers) and she's standing right in front of me and demands all of the money upfront I wouldn't give it to her. So, why the hell am I going to send a tute deposit money, especially one I don't know and have no relationship and / or history with? Not going to happen! That's just being smart, and has nothing to do about being "old fashioned". Don't send these hoors any payment upfront men! There are too many others out there not trying to pull this BS on us. Don't do it![/QUOTE]Common sense is not common, especially when it comes to pussy.
[QUOTE=Combo;3083745]Common sense is not common, especially when it comes to pussy.[/QUOTE]You make a very good point. As a high school teacher once told me, there actually is no such thing as "common sense". Otherwise, by nature everybody would have it!
[QUOTE=RealShaun;3083596].. girls ask for some type of prepay % to cover their cab or whatever ...[/QUOTE]I tell them that I will call Uber for them, so no need for cab money.
If it is deposit to confirm your commitment to them, then I tell them that I am paying for Uber to show my commitment.
I generally have not used dating apps for finding garotas. The glamour photos and curated online personalities rarely match what I actually want, especially for looking for (sloppy deepthroat for an hour).
That said, I met garotas at Casaro, Clinicas in Moema, & Gaugin many of them are active on FatalModel, [URL]Privacy.com.br[/URL], and their online rates are much higher.
Wise to PIX (Easy Peasy).
If you don't want to carry heaps of cash or hunt down a Bradesco or Santander ATM at 3:00 AM while hanging around Casaro or Gauguin (Scandallo Lite), Wise is the best option for me.
I connected my Wise transfer using a US debit card to pay via PIX.
Speed The garota or clinic receives the PIX directly into their account in under 30 minutes or less.
WISE to Pix works 24/7, including weekends and Brazilian national holidays. It saved me a ton of hassle late at night when the garatoas agreed to a threesome, and nobody has Infinity pay. The are thrilled to receive PIX.
On a Thursday night at Casaro, I met Bea, a short five foot tall, very light-skinned 29 year-old soon to be 30 year morena wearing green contact lenses & black sheer lingerie. she looks exactly like Samantha Logan. https://www.instagram.com/_samanthalogan?stkn=aGEwZnJ2bGpmamVy We did a 1-hour session next door for 500 BRL. She delivered the sloppy deepthroat swallow with enthusiam. We have known each other for a while, couple of years at least. It wasnt our first session.
Around 4:00 AM, she brought. Up continuing the night at my apartment or a motel for an all-nighter. I offered 1,000 BRL for the rest of the night, she accepted, and I called an Uber (which can take a while on Rua Augusta at that hour).
During the ride, around 5:00 AM, my head cleared up a bit and I asked a practical question: "What exactly does 'all night' mean when it's already 5:00 AM?
Instead of answering, she literally grabbed the door handle and jumped out of the moving Uber into the street. Both the Uber driver and I were completely stunned "Meu Deus, ela doida!
The next day, she sent screeds of messages to my wassap & DMs, claiming I changed the deal mid-ride and demanding I pay her the 1,000 BRL anyway because she supposedly missed out on another Casaro client.
I don't play games about miscommunication with garotas (he said / she said deals) when there's a misunderstanding. I face those head on not ducking hiding or blocking garotas that I have known for while. I messaged her back directly: i said she went nuts, bailed out of a moving vehicle, the uber recorded video of the conversation and your bailout, we never agreed on any upfront payment (nor did she ever ask for one prior to jumping).
I made it clear: "You bailed, I ain't paying shit. ".
Eventually, she cooled down, apologized, and dropped it. Saw her at Casaro the following night we ignored each other at first, but of course its brasil, and she is a GDP looking $$ so later on in the night she even asked me to buy her a drink. Kkk.
Stay safe out there on Augusta! Watch out for drunk garotas in the middle of the road kkk.
Generally I love the Wise app. It has amazing rates and often my $$ are in my girls acct within seconds. Amazing! But word to the wise. The garota gets your full name when receiving funds. No way around that that I know. — happy to be corrected.
So I only use it with girls I totally trust not just random girls.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3083782]Generally I love the Wise app. It has amazing rates and often my $$ are in my girls acct within seconds. Amazing! But word to the wise. The garota gets your full name when receiving funds. No way around that that I know. happy to be corrected.
So I only use it with girls I totally trust not just random girls.[/QUOTE]Wait I just found the "preferred name" field in Wise. According to AI it will use this instead. Can anyone confirm or deny that?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3083755] Wise to PIX (Easy Peasy).
If you don't want to carry heaps of cash or hunt down a Bradesco or Santander ATM at 3:00 AM while hanging around Casaro or Gauguin (Scandallo Lite), Wise is the best option for me.
I connected my Wise transfer using a US debit card to pay via PIX.
Speed The garota or clinic receives the PIX directly into their account in under 30 minutes or less.
WISE to Pix works 24/7, including weekends and Brazilian national holidays. It saved me a ton of hassle late at night when the garatoas agreed to a threesome, and nobody has Infinity pay. The are thrilled to receive PIX. [/QUOTE]This is very interesting info. I have never used Wise. I only heard a small bit about it, here and there, but I will consider it in the future for debit card backup and for that late night, unplanned, events. KKK.
As I understand it, you can connect a Wise account to your checking account, debit card, of a credit card. You can also set up a Wise checking account in the foreign country & foreign currency you are travelling to and put money into that account which later can be drawn down directly from this Wise account using a Wise debit card or you can just pay someone directly via their pix account. I understand that this is the cheapest way to do it being that it costs a little more to pay from an American checking account or debit card to a pix account. Have I got that right?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3083755] On a Thursday night at Casaro, I met Bea, a short five foot tall, very light-skinned 29 year-old soon to be 30 year morena wearing green contact lenses & black sheer lingerie. she looks exactly like Samantha Logan. https://www.instagram.com/_samanthalogan?stkn=aGEwZnJ2bGpmamVy We did a 1-hour session next door for 500 BRL. She delivered the sloppy deepthroat swallow with enthusiam. We have known each other for a while, couple of years at least. It wasnt our first session.
Around 4:00 AM, she brought. Up continuing the night at my apartment or a motel for an all-nighter. I offered 1,000 BRL for the rest of the night, she accepted, and I called an Uber (which can take a while on Rua Augusta at that hour).
During the ride, around 5:00 AM, my head cleared up a bit and I asked a practical question: "What exactly does 'all night' mean when it's already 5:00 AM?
Instead of answering, she literally grabbed the door handle and jumped out of the moving Uber into the street. Both the Uber driver and I were completely stunned "Meu Deus, ela doida!
The next day, she sent screeds of messages to my wassap & DMs, claiming I changed the deal mid-ride and demanding I pay her the 1,000 BRL anyway because she supposedly missed out on another Casaro client.
I don't play games about miscommunication with garotas (he said / she said deals) when there's a misunderstanding. I face those head on not ducking hiding or blocking garotas that I have known for while. I messaged her back directly: i said she went nuts, bailed out of a moving vehicle, the uber recorded video of the conversation and your bailout, we never agreed on any upfront payment (nor did she ever ask for one prior to jumping).[/QUOTE]That was some crazy Beatche! You have all the fun. KKK.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083802]This is very interesting info. I have never used Wise. I only heard a small bit about it, here and there, but I will consider it in the future for debit card backup and for that late night, unplanned, events. KKK.
As I understand it, you can connect a Wise account to your checking account, debit card, of a credit card. You can also set up a Wise checking account in the foreign country & foreign currency you are travelling to and put money into that account which later can be drawn down directly from this Wise account using a Wise debit card or you can just pay someone directly via their pix account. I understand that this is the cheapest way to do it being that it costs a little more to pay from an American checking account or debit card to a pix account. Have I got that right?
That was some crazy Beatche! You have all the fun. KKK.[/QUOTE]It was 2:00 AM in the basement of Casaro, and I found myself in a dream setup: two 19-year-old loiras from Minas Gerais, both down for a wild, unlimited-pops threesome. They were already tugging and massaging my Johnson, ready to move next door. Then came the classic Brazilian nightlife curveball no cash, my credit card got declined because of post-midnight bank blocks in Brasil, and neither girl had Mercado Pago or InfinitePay on their phones. Only Pix.
With no ATMs anywhere near Casarao at that hour, the night was almost dead in the water.
Then I realized I was Wise to the setup.
Standing right by the downstairs bar ,across from the TV showing Corinthians losing again, where the internet signal was solid, I use Casarao Wifi and pulled out my phone, opened the Wise app, and created a quick profile named "Garota Loira" using her Pix key. I hit send: 1000 BRL straight from my US debit account to her Mercado Libre PIX account.
Boom, sent. Off we go next door. three of us 500 brl to each loira garota, unlimited everything everywhere no Holes barred,
The garotas squealed with double delight. Arm in arm, we walked up the stairs, past all the swinging dicks crowded around the stage watching the strip show, wtf dude why you getting a public BJ on stage with all these iphone cameras around. ? . We stood in line to exit and queued up to settle the tab. I got my card to clear for the bar tab, the stupid white wristband routine, and the friendly security guy poured my drink into a plastic cup.
I always give a respectful wink & nod to the female bombeiro fiirefigther in the club. She gets hit on all the time by drunk guys. My two Loira dates and I stepped out of Casarao, into the cold winter rain. SP rainy season is no joke. We turn right walk past the cigs & candy vendor, and walked to the entrance of hotel smart hotel. Security opens the door with one arm to let us in, we walk up the short staircase to see.
A long line to buy room time, its packed. Dudes sucking face and getting handsy with their garotas on the sofa, in line and sitting along the staircase. Some garotas are actively looking for the next client while she breathes sweet nothings in your ear. I didn't feel like waiting, so I slipped the guy managing the wall of purses a 10 BRL tip to skip the line and lock in Room #2right next to the purse wall, a sleeper room most guys mistake for a bathroom.
At reception, I paid the multi-girl room rate and ordered another round of drinks. Their stupid card reader was acting up on international credit cards. I tell them to use the other two credit card readers. , I got it sorted. The girls grabbed the drinks and purses themselves, I wasn't playing waiter; I was the boss man for the next one hour. And I aint holding shit, no purses, no phones, no drinks except my own. Kkk.
About 20 to 30 minutes after placing the initial transfer down in the casarao basement, her phone buzzed. She checked her Mercado Pago account and confirmed receipt of the Pix payment, showing me the confirmation screen reading WISE BRASIL INSTITUIO DE PAGAMENTO LTDA.
I had her forward the pdf receipt to my WhatsApp for proof of payment, and we were set.
The purse guy handed over the rectangular key tag marked 02, and we slipped inside the room adjacent to wall of purses abd opposite from the big mirrors & sofa.
One hour in, things were going so well I decided to extend for an hour. We called down to reception, and a garcon brought a credit card reader and another round of drinks to inside the room. Paid by card.
Without even getting out of bed, I opened Wise, selected the saved "Garota Loira" profile, and sent another 1000 BRL. Boom, I hit in her Mercado Pago account in 20 to 30 min.
Exhausted got their instagram, ordered my uber and left at 0500 am. That is how I use Wise your situation experience will be different from mine
[QUOTE=Tochka;3083839]my credit card got declined because of post-midnight bank blocks in Brasil
[/QUOTE]I found out about br ATM night limit the hard way.
The 2nd night in town I run out of cash. I had already spent r1500 on a blondie. Then I needed 2800 for a 3 some. One garota was willing to accept 2 x100 crisp usd in cash, plus 4 x100 blueback. Luckily I had exactly 200 USDs in my wallet.
You learn these little things as you go.
Do you have to give your name and social security number to use wise to send pix?
Same question with remitly?
[QUOTE=Tochka;3083839]It was 2:00 AM in the basement of Casaro, and I found myself in a dream setup: two 19-year-old loiras from Minas Gerais, both down for a wild, unlimited-pops threesome. They were already tugging and massaging my Johnson, ready to move next door. Then came the classic Brazilian nightlife curveball no cash, my credit card got declined because of post-midnight bank blocks in Brasil, and neither girl had Mercado Pago or InfinitePay on their phones. Only Pix.
With no ATMs anywhere near Casarao at that hour, the night was almost dead in the water.
Then I realized I was Wise to the setup..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3083839]It was 2:00 AM in the basement of Casaro, and I found myself in a dream setup: two 19-year-old loiras from Minas Gerais, both down for a wild, unlimited-pops threesome. They were already tugging and massaging my Johnson, ready to move next door. Then came the classic Brazilian nightlife curveball no cash, my credit card got declined because of post-midnight bank blocks in Brasil, and neither girl had Mercado Pago or InfinitePay on their phones. Only Pix.
With no ATMs anywhere near Casarao at that hour, the night was almost dead in the water.
Then I realized I was Wise to the setup.
Standing right by the downstairs bar ,across from the TV showing Corinthians losing again, where the internet signal was solid, I use Casarao Wifi and pulled out my phone, opened the Wise app, and created a quick profile named "Garota Loira" using her Pix key. I hit send: 1000 BRL straight from my US debit account to her Mercado Libre PIX account.
Boom, sent. Off we go next door. three of us 500 brl to each loira garota, unlimited everything everywhere no Holes barred,
The garotas squealed with double delight. Arm in arm, we walked up the stairs, past all the swinging dicks crowded around the stage watching the strip show, wtf dude why you getting a public BJ on stage with all these iphone cameras around. ? . We stood in line to exit and queued up to settle the tab. I got my card to clear for the bar tab, the stupid white wristband routine, and the friendly security guy poured my drink into a plastic cup..
[/QUOTE]Wow, excellent info you provided. Looking into WISE now.
I have had that happen to me thrice where I ran out of cash and ATMs were not avail and I already owed a girl money, fuckin nightmare both times fighting with them. I won't go into details, but all three times a total fucking headache until ATMs opened. This was in Medellin twice and once in Brazil.
Someone here recommended Wander Wallet and that's what I've been using with great success.
You fund the account via cashapp, bank transfer, or crypto. Then you can use that balance to make local payments in several different currencies. The conversion rate and any fees are detailed clearly.
Not sure if Wise offers this, but Wander Wallet also lets you scan QR codes to make pix payments.
Haven't paid any girls using it, but its come in handy for taxis and merchants that don't have change for large bills.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3083908]Someone here recommended Wander Wallet and that's what I've been using with great success.
You fund the account via cashapp, bank transfer, or crypto. Then you can use that balance to make local payments in several different currencies. The conversion rate and any fees are detailed clearly.
Not sure if Wise offers this, but Wander Wallet also lets you scan QR codes to make pix payments.
Haven't paid any girls using it, but its come in handy for taxis and merchants that don't have change for large bills.[/QUOTE]Chance, can you please share a few more things regarding this wallet?
1. How fast do transaction go through via pix? Pix2 pix is instant, how about wander2 pix this app?
2. Is the fee percentage based or flat rate?
Thanks. Interested so far. I will probably get it. If anyone has a referral code, I will be happy to use it.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3083908]Someone here recommended Wander Wallet and that's what I've been using with great success.
You fund the account via cashapp, bank transfer, or crypto. Then you can use that balance to make local payments in several different currencies. The conversion rate and any fees are detailed clearly.
Not sure if Wise offers this, but Wander Wallet also lets you scan QR codes to make pix payments.
Haven't paid any girls using it, but its come in handy for taxis and merchants that don't have change for large bills.[/QUOTE]I also used Wander Wallet extensively in Sao Paulo a few weeks ago. The transaction goes through in about half a minute with confirmation to both parties.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3083291]In my opinion, the absolute max for Casarao should be 800 reals, and the absolute max for Gauguin at 1,000 reals. That's absolute max! And at Scandallo, I have it at 1,500 reals. That's my "2 cents" on it.[/QUOTE]Does this include anal? Or do you have to pay extra for anal? How much for anal.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3083961]Does this include anal? Or do you have to pay extra for anal? How much for anal.[/QUOTE]Whether it includes anal or not depends on the girl. You have to ask beforehand for anal (also BBBJ / CIM). Sometimes the girl might ask for a bit more (if she even does anal) and sometimes not. This is why you don't open at your max price. Start lower and see where it goes.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3083659]Old fashioned nothing! That's just plain good judgment. It's simply too easy to get ripped off sending pre-payments and deposits. If an independent girl shows up to my room (or me to hers) and she's standing right in front of me and demands all of the money upfront I wouldn't give it to her. So, why the hell am I going to send a tute deposit money, especially one I don't know and have no relationship and / or history with? Not going to happen! That's just being smart, and has nothing to do about being "old fashioned". Don't send these hoors any payment upfront men! There are too many others out there not trying to pull this BS on us. Don't do it![/QUOTE]My dependable sugar baby asked me for a loan to be paid back in intimate visits. No way Josefina.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3083971]My dependable sugar baby asked me for a loan to be paid back in intimate visits. No way Josefina.[/QUOTE]It's "cash and carry" and "pay as you go" baby. I don't be putting these here tutes on "retainer" Hahaha!
Seems like you've been doing well getting girls for 500 R per hour. Last time I was there girls were asking 500 R for 30 minutes and 800 R for an hour.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3083755]I generally have not used dating apps for finding garotas. The glamour photos and curated online personalities rarely match what I actually want, especially for looking for (sloppy deepthroat for an hour).
That said, I met garotas at Casaro, Clinicas in Moema, & Gaugin many of them are active on FatalModel, [URL]Privacy.com.br[/URL], and their online rates are much higher.
Wise to PIX (Easy Peasy).
If you don't want to carry heaps of cash or hunt down a Bradesco or Santander ATM at 3:00 AM while hanging around Casaro or Gauguin (Scandallo Lite), Wise is the best option for me.
I connected my Wise transfer using a US debit card to pay via PIX.
Speed The garota or clinic receives the PIX directly into their account in under 30 minutes or less.
WISE to Pix works 24/7, including weekends and Brazilian national holidays. It saved me a ton of hassle late at night when the garatoas agreed to a threesome, and nobody has Infinity pay. The are thrilled to receive PIX.
On a Thursday night at Casaro, I met Bea, a short five foot tall, very light-skinned 29 year-old soon to be 30 year morena wearing green contact lenses & black sheer lingerie. she looks exactly like Samantha Logan. https://www.instagram.com/_samanthalogan?stkn=aGEwZnJ2bGpmamVy We did a 1-hour session next door for 500 BRL. She delivered the sloppy deepthroat swallow with enthusiam. We have known each other for a while, couple of years at least. It wasnt our first session.
Around 4:00 AM, she brought. Up continuing the night at my apartment or a motel for an all-nighter. I offered 1,000 BRL for the rest of the night, she accepted, and I called an Uber (which can take a while on Rua Augusta at that hour).
During the ride, around 5:00 AM, my head cleared up a bit and I asked a practical question: "What exactly does 'all night' mean when it's already 5:00 AM?
Instead of answering, she literally grabbed the door handle and jumped out of the moving Uber into the street. Both the Uber driver and I were completely stunned "Meu Deus, ela doida!
The next day, she sent screeds of messages to my wassap & DMs, claiming I changed the deal mid-ride and demanding I pay her the 1,000 BRL anyway because she supposedly missed out on another Casaro client.
I don't play games about miscommunication with garotas (he said / she said deals) when there's a misunderstanding. I face those head on not ducking hiding or blocking garotas that I have known for while. I messaged her back directly: i said she went nuts, bailed out of a moving vehicle, the uber recorded video of the conversation and your bailout, we never agreed on any upfront payment (nor did she ever ask for one prior to jumping).
I made it clear: "You bailed, I ain't paying shit. ".
Eventually, she cooled down, apologized, and dropped it. Saw her at Casaro the following night we ignored each other at first, but of course its brasil, and she is a GDP looking $$ so later on in the night she even asked me to buy her a drink. Kkk.
Stay safe out there on Augusta! Watch out for drunk garotas in the middle of the road kkk.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084018]Seems like you've been doing well getting girls for 500 R per hour. Last time I was there girls were asking 500 R for 30 minutes and 800 R for an hour.[/QUOTE]Tochka already explained that a key part of his strategy is to wait the tutes out until really late when they will be more open to cutting a deal that's more to a monger's liking. That's a no go for me. Got to take my tired and sleepy ass to bed!
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3083912]Chance, can you please share a few more things regarding this wallet?
1. How fast do transaction go through via pix? Pix2 pix is instant, how about wander2 pix this app?
2. Is the fee percentage based or flat rate?
Thanks. Interested so far. I will probably get it. If anyone has a referral code, I will be happy to use it.[/QUOTE]1. Fast. It takes about 15-30 seconds.
2. 20 cents flat fee for transfers. They also charge for the funding transaction. Although I'm not sure how its calculated. Exchange rate is pretty close to mid market rate. For example, mid market for USD BRL is 5. 14 right now and Wander wallet is 5. 09.
Wander wallet is a great back up to have. My usual priority in terms of how to make a payment is Card, Cash, then Wander wallet.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084018]Seems like you've been doing well getting girls for 500 R per hour. Last time I was there girls were asking 500 R for 30 minutes and 800 R for an hour.[/QUOTE]I prefer to visit Casarao on slow nights when the large room in the basement is closed. Sunday, the nights.
When there are more hungry garotas than clients. On busy nites with lots of swinging dicks, I turned around to leave for others spots Caster Club, Stop Night Club in Interlagos or Connection.
My initial offer is always the sane 500 brl for one hour, in Gauguin & Casarao my offer is the same. In Casarao the garotas respond 500 brl for 30 min, I simply reply in brasilian slang, you want to make money now then lets go: 500 brl one hour. I see them do the mental calculations, glance at the time, look at the applen watch its 0130 am. No more foreign guys are coming in on cold, fvcking raining Sunday night.
Garotas that previously told me on busy nights 600 or 700 brl or 500 brl for 30 min know I walk away from those offers.
On Sunday nites and slow nights my offer seems reasonable.
Tip: good to bate popa with the garotas in porto. They believe google translate dudes can afford any price they throw out there. If he is willing to pay 1000 brl then he can pay 1500 or 2000 more (for extras) . This is the fofoca the Casarao garotas talk about when we walking by them downstairs.
Great to have WISE, WonderWallet and any other options to pay Garotas by PIX. the olden days were maddening searching for late night ATM Bradesco/Santander lobby or declined cardS for no fvcking reason except thier stupid machina card reader dont like international credit cards
Thanks, Tochka & Steve 9696. Based on your recommendations, I just signed up for a Wise Account. It took me around 40 minutes to get the whole damn thing up and running on my desktop and cell phone, check out the various features, and put $20 into my account. Easy Peasy. LOL. But I like it. It will serve as solid back up and also as a way to pay the Missus for various food deliveries and other miscellaneous stuff without having to dig into my cash supply. I like it!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3084034]I prefer to visit Casarao on slow nights when the large room in the basement is closed. Sunday, the nights.
When there are more hungry garotas than clients. On busy nites with lots of swinging dicks, I turned around to leave for others spots Caster Club, Stop Night Club in Interlagos or Connection.
My initial offer is always the sane 500 brl for one hour, in Gauguin & Casarao my offer is the same. In Casarao the garotas respond 500 brl for 30 min, I simply reply in brasilian slang, you want to make money now then lets go: 500 brl one hour. I see them do the mental calculations, glance at the time, look at the applen watch its 0130 am. No more foreign guys are coming in on cold, fvcking raining Sunday night.
Garotas that previously told me on busy nights 600 or 700 brl or 500 brl for 30 min know I walk away from those offers.
On Sunday nites and slow nights my offer seems reasonable. [/QUOTE]Hey Tochka, I am not questioning your approach to picking up girls and I especially like your response to a 30 min offer, "you want to make money now, then lets go (at my price for an hour). " KKK, but I must add that in my experience slow nights mean that the proportion of less attractive girls is higher than other nights. Yes, busy nights will have more dicks, and that girls are less likely to lower their prices, but the collection of attractive girls is at its peak. So, it's a tradeoff which sometimes works to the customer's advantage and sometimes not. This is why I usually prefer to set apart Sunday and Monday nights as date nights with my favorite repeat girls at my hotel and I stay in. However, whatever works, works. Rock on!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3084034] others spots Caster Club, Stop Night Club in Interlagos or Connection.[/QUOTE]How are these boates? I have been meaning to try out Stop, there were a few good reports on gpguia. Connection was my first boate during pandemic when Scandallo was closed. It's pretty big place and Scandallo would send the new girls to connection first before they graduate to the big leagues. But it's far out and I haven't been in few years.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3084035]Thanks, Tochka & Steve 9696. Based on your recommendations, I just signed up for a Wise Account. It took me around 40 minutes to get the whole damn thing up and running on my desktop and cell phone, check out the various features, and put $20 into my account. Easy Peasy. LOL. But I like it. It will serve as solid back up and also as a way to pay the Missus for various food deliveries and other miscellaneous stuff without having to dig into my cash supply. I like it![/QUOTE]I set up Wise too. Its seem very easy and you can also use PIX with it. I connected to my Schwab debit card so its easy to transfer money to it.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084138]I set up Wise too. Its seem very easy and you can also use PIX with it. I connected to my Schwab debit card so its easy to transfer money to it.[/QUOTE]You are right, David. It is easy. I hooked up my Needham Bank zero fee debit card to my Wise account and did a trial transfer of $20 to test it out. Needham is my back up zero fee debit card in case something happens to my Schwab zero fee debit card. Just purchased a monthly T-Mobil international pass too. I think I am all set for my next SP adventure.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3084115]Connection was my first boate during pandemic when Scandallo was closed. It's pretty big place and Scandallo would send the new girls to connection first before they graduate to the big leagues. [/QUOTE]I went connection last year and was not impressed by it. I will give the the benefit of the doubt that it was a slow night. But I don't feel like go all the way there and just to be disappointed again.
It's very local, even staff seemed to be shocked by a foreigner's visit. They were still nice tho.
Rolled into Casarão around 1:30 AM on a slow Tuesday. The bigger basement spot was locked up, so everyone was packed downstairs.
Right away, I ran into a crew of English-speaking European dudes at the bar flexing hard, shouting about how they had "more money than God. "
Okay, bros. I took two steps back before lightning struck the place. Naturally, that line was like throwing chum in the water for every english speaking sharky garota in the joint.
Boa sorte, bros your deep pockets won't help you speak a lick of brasilian porto Boa Sorte fellas! Google Translating your way through the night with those 1200 brl and 1500 brl an hour sharks and pirañas garotas headed your way.
I headed upstairs to catch the strip show, making sure to hang near the back as usual. Never the front row. Eyes locked with a super cute 22 year old garota standing against the wall. She looks like Giovana Cordeiro, her casarao name GiGi, pix & real name is different. She is Definitely my type. She told me we sessioned before. Really? She knows how I like down & dirty. I'll take a genuine, zero-drama garota over the high-maintenance hot blonde that cannot perform to my level.
I love the cute GND sem frescura garota any day of the week. We hit it off fast, grabbed hands, and headed out around 2:30 AM over to the Smart Hotel next door.
Vagabundo1 Setting up apps like Wise for Pix transfers required the usual KYC drill, but it kept things moving smooth. (I am Not trying to pull a Marty Byrde here, just keeping it easy). When I send Pix her account said received from.
WISE BRASIL INSTITUICAO DE PAGAMENTO LTDA.
Also noticed a couple of cutie pie 25 year old garotas from Mato Grosso do Sul with long dark curly hair who cross-over between Casarão and Caster Club on quiet nights. Caught up with them after getting a DM they are at Caster club. When I'm hitting spots further out near Interlagos I usually stop by Stop Night Club or check out some of the low-key budget love motels in that area. Overall, solid late-night run.
Just booked 2 weeks in SP. I am staying at Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi. The trip is fully refundable. Place looks nice, but I am skeptical about not staying in Poblado and also curious if it is chica friendly?, Maybe one or two nights during my trip I may want to do the 2 or 3 girl in one night mayhem routine, would this hotel allow it? Or should I fly under the radar and only bring 1 back every other night discreetly and do some of my mongering at love motels?
Any recommendations of hotels under 200 $ a night for a longer stay would greatly be appreciated. I stayed at an Airbnb last and it was a good deal, but I really want the comfort of a hotel for this stay so I am not going Airbnb again in SP.
I am a night owl so I will be frequenting Scandallo, Gaugin, Ceasaro, and maybe Ill return to Bomboa even though last time I was there I got done dirty in a white party threesome. Sucks because Bomboa has an amazing atmosphere of Noir and a healthy amount of femme fatales to keep you intrigued.
Anyway if anyone wants to chyme in on their opinion on good hotels and neighborhoods, it would be appreciated. As always I will have much data to analyze and post about upon completion of my trip.
Read Sao Paulo Hotels and List.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3084374]Any recommendations of hotels under 200 $ a night for a longer stay would greatly be appreciated. I stayed at an Airbnb last and it was a good deal, but I really want the comfort of a hotel for this stay so I am not going Airbnb again in SP.
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Airbnb has good prices there, the best place to book.
Thanks to everyone who sent me links to outcall sites. I really appreciate it. I'm struggling navigating maps right now as I'll be in Jardins so looking at these clubs you all are mentioning and trying to figure out where I am compared to them is doing my head in haha. I've only been to Sao Paulo twice and both times were in Jardins and the convention center. I'll have a free day Monday so hoping to connect with a girl or two then!
I have never had a threesome before. I'm thinking about having one at Scandallo. Is it a great experience with the right girls??
Its never been my thing. May be too many people etc? I don't know.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084596]I have never had a threesome before. I'm thinking about having one at Scandallo. Is it a great experience with the right girls?? Its never been my thing. May be too many people etc? I don't know.[/QUOTE]I have only done 3 threesomes in my entire life. It's never been my thing either (expensive), but I feel like each time I got really lucky and was with girls who were really into each other as well as into fucking me. My first experience was in Brazil at Centaurus in Rio when that termas was still good. Because I was actually with them both for two sessions, I called the whole experience a "dupla, dupla" or "double double". So maybe it counts as 2 times, I don't know. Bottom line is that if you luck out and strike gold with the right girls, they will rock your world! I wrote about my sexual exploits with them in an extensive report, but here's the short version (pics re-attached):
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The second threesome I did was in Madrid with two Albanian girls (yes that's right) at a club called Factory Air. Unforunately no pics for that session, but it was also epic! Both white chicks, one blonde and one brunette. I fucked the blonde in the ass. What is it with me and cornholing attractive blondes haha! I remember that the brunette liked to get slam fucked really, really, really hard! I couldn't do it hard enough for her it seemed. Fucked her so hard I had to check and make sure she was still breathing. Fucked the holy terror, cowboy shit out of her! All three of us got off on that shit! I wrote a detailed trip report about that session as well, but unfortunately can't find it.
My third and final threesome was with a blonde Hungarian (that's right fucked her in the butt) and a brunette Moldovan (this time the dark haired girl got ass fucked too) at a club at the Spanish border with France called Club Lady's Dallas. That was some kind of "butt sex party" let me tell you!
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[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084596]I have never had a threesome before. I'm thinking about having one at Scandallo. Is it a great experience with the right girls??
Its never been my thing. May be too many people etc? I don't know.[/QUOTE]I've had 2 in my life. As long as the girls take directions then its fun. Especially during the time between pops. You get a show.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084596]I have never had a threesome before. I'm thinking about having one at Scandallo. Is it a great experience with the right girls??
When the
Its never been my thing. May be too many people etc? I don't know.[/QUOTE]I've done dozens of them, and the best were in Brazil. I think because Brazilian chicks tend to be more wild/open sexually than about anywhere else.
To improve your odds of it going well, best practice is to first be with at least one of them individually to see how it goes. If you want them to eat each other and kiss each other, you have to make it clear that's what you want. You can test them out and ask them to make out with each other beforehand. But your odds of them being into all that are great in Brazil.
[QUOTE=Combo;3084641]I've done dozens of them, and the best were in Brazil. I think because Brazilian chicks tend to be more wild/open sexually than about anywhere else.
To improve your odds of it going well, best practice is to first be with at least one of them individually to see how it goes. If you want them to eat each other and kiss each other, you have to make it clear that's what you want. You can test them out and ask them to make out with each other beforehand. But your odds of them being into all that are great in Brazil.[/QUOTE]This is solid advice. I remember that before my first threesome ever there in Brazil, I was sitting there in the boate with both girls, with me in the middle, and all three of our mouths were pressed together voraciously DFKing. Got damn I've never fucked better than I have in Brazil!
[QUOTE=Combo;3084641]I've done dozens of them, [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=InTheSticks317;3084626]I've had 2 in my life. As long as the girls take directions then its fun. Especially during the time between pops. You get a show.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3084606]I have only done 3 threesomes in my entire life. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084596]I have never had a threesome before. [/QUOTE]I've only had threesomes before. Yes all the sex I had were threesomes.
Haha, just kidding. I had my first one in Thailand 15 years ago. Then 2nd in CDMX in 2022. Then third during this trip in SP.
Based on my limited experience with this activity, it is best when the women work well with each other. All brothels offer it, but you should not just pick two and hope for the best.
I had a threesome in Scandallo a few weeks ago and it turned out to be great, actually, the greatest. But my tip for David is to session with someone first and be sure her service is solid. Then tell her your intention and have her pick the partner. This is the way to go to not waste money.
Good luck and report back.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084596]I have never had a threesome before. I'm thinking about having one at Scandallo. Is it a great experience with the right girls??
Its never been my thing. May be too many people etc? I don't know.[/QUOTE]For anyone heading to SP the CLnicas & prives & Casaro remain the best value for multi-girl setups (threesomes and foursomes).
I use them as a zero-pressure "test drive" where I can gauge chemistry and establish direct expectations and decide what the fcvk I want from a threesome session before heading to the more expensive big leagues Scandallo & Gauguin.
While my previous post covered an intense session with anal porno queens Larinha Smalls and Ariella Ferraz, long ago I shifted away from anal curiosity entirely. The great thing about SP's is that you don't need to lean into anal / hardcore porno elements to get top-tier service. Cute young garotas fresh from MG are willing to do threesomes as well.
I had to learn to avoid the english speaking teams of smiling sexy blonde bikini teams & the blonde instagram models offering threesome deals in scandallo & gauguin. If they approach me speaking english iI am already in their sights and its time to bail.
Rates for clinica threesomes have adjusted over time from the threesomes of 280 BRL an hour at tanagara and prime clinica up to 330 BRL ($65 USD) for a full hour with two garotas at lower end Moah, Fennix, Indy.
However For $65 USD total all in, having two attentive garotas for an hour who will learn to follow your script focusing on full service, girl-on-girl, or hardcore porno sloppy dick sharing & snowballing action, got to talk to them in porto or english what you want them to do.
I focus on chemistry, French kissing (DFK), dual oral, and girl-on-girl action. In major leagues scandallo & gauguin I Set the ground rules early with the girls ensures everyone is on the same page. Gets the same price, and they must do a test run with me at the tables in scandallo or back bar at Gauguin to demonstrate chemistry.
For clinicas I just change out the garota at the 30 min mark if she isn't into the other garota.
Threesome and foursome experiences are guaranteed at Clinicas, Prives, Casarao, Gauguin, Scandallo, or with any amiga of a garota de programma that she recommends as available for threesome love motel hook up.
The more expensive the venue the more expensive the threesome, if there is no chemistry between the garotas change them our until you find the chemistry you want.
my most memorable threesome was two garotas from Terma Monte Carlos with a half asian half brasilian 19 year old and a mature sexy morena . the morena has sex toys for women in her bag.
we went to panda motel in botafogo at 0100am to drink, smoke marola with ice, music, pool, . we made that 19 year bi Asian garota squirt five times into the morena mouth and on the bed. i cherish the five wet spots foto ever since kkk
[QUOTE=Tochka;3084671]For anyone heading to SP the CLnicas & prives & Casaro remain the best value for multi-girl setups (threesomes and foursomes).
I use them as a zero-pressure "test drive" where I can gauge chemistry and establish direct expectations and decide what the fcvk I want from a threesome session before heading to the more expensive big leagues Scandallo & Gauguin.
While my previous post covered an intense session with anal porno queens Larinha Smalls and Ariella Ferraz, long ago I shifted away from anal curiosity entirely. The great thing about SP's is that you don't need to lean into anal / hardcore porno elements to get top-tier service. Cute young garotas fresh from MG are willing to do threesomes as well.
I had to learn to avoid the english speaking teams of smiling sexy blonde bikini teams & the blonde instagram models offering threesome deals in scandallo & gauguin. If they approach me speaking english iI am already in their sights and its time to bail.[/QUOTE]Where is Ariella Ferraz attending at?
I met Larinha small in 2022, I think I paid 150 for the hour (the cheap days). Her wig came off during doggie LOL. I was super careful with her considering the hardcore stuff she had done. I hope she was tested when she shot porn but dunno if that's a requirement in Brazil.
On the same trip, I also met Dafne, you can find her by that name. She's ginger. I fucked her in Palms, paid scandallo price, don't worth a repeat.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3084596]I have never had a threesome before. I'm thinking about having one at Scandallo. Is it a great experience with the right girls??
Its never been my thing. May be too many people etc? I don't know.[/QUOTE]I had a number of them, mostly with pros, but one with non-pro friends. Let's stick with the pros. No question they come with bragging rights, but unless you choose wisely, the reality is they are often just a waste of money. I'd say maybe a third were mind blowing, the rest were ok but frankly a waste of money. If you haven't had the experience, you definitely should at least once, but temper your expectations.
Stirling.
Is there anywhere that has scandallo's current cover fees? I was there last week and was surprised the before 7 pm cover was now 400, my consumables were under 300 so not sure how much is consumable. Was considering going later at night this week, but was wondering what those prices have been raised to.
[QUOTE=Wavarry;3084842]Is there anywhere that has scandallo's current cover fees? I was there last week and was surprised the before 7 pm cover was now 400, my consumables were under 300 so not sure how much is consumable. Was considering going later at night this week, but was wondering what those prices have been raised to.[/QUOTE]Yes consumable is now 400. Come before 7 and only pay the 400 consumable. Come after 7 and pay an extra 200 non consumable cover.
If you are not s big alcohol spender, then best to come before 7 and eat there. Food is excellent and not outrageous.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3084884]Yes consumable is now 400. Come before 7 and only pay the 400 consumable. Come after 7 and pay an extra 200 non consumable cover.
If you are not s big alcohol spender, then best to come before 7 and eat there. Food is excellent and not outrageous.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, maybe I'll go there.
I am headed to SP from Rio this week.
Does Scandallo accept cash for everything?
I would love to pay cash so nothing show up on my card statement. Is it possible?
If not, what name appear when I spend in Scandallo?
Since my return from Curitiba, I continued to have Larissa over on the weekends. I really appreciate her company. Without her, I would have been just banging hookers in boates. With her, everything is just sweeter. She took me to a bunch of botecos in Itaim. I will probably stay there next time. It's the Santa Monica of SP. Vibe there is superb, walkable and you meet upper class Brazilians. Expensive af but worth it.
She cried her eyes out this morning, but I said I'd be back in 6 months. We hugged and kissed goodbyes.
When I was not with her during the week, I went to 57 a few times. 2 sessions with Misha. She roleplays a professor with her geeky glasses. Her look is 2 notches higher than a girl next door, but service is great and she is submissive. And yes, I came on those.
Also 2 sessions in Abbobora with Livia. She has large natural melons for her small rack. 8.5 in look, 10 in service. And yes, I came on those too.
One trip to Gauguin with a Peruvian guy I met in my building. I did not session, but got a bunch of zaps. Going to try to meet them next time.
I am already in the state of RJ. I'll be spending 2 nights on the big island. Then off to Rio for a few days until my fight out of Brasilanjia.
[QUOTE=Greenburger;3084903]I am headed to SP from Rio this week. Does Scandallo accept cash for everything? I would love to pay cash so nothing show up on my card statement. Is it possible? If not, what name appear when I spend in Scandallo?[/QUOTE]You can spend with cash in Scandallo as much as you like. That's what I tend to do. Pay as you go "cash and carry". Speaking of what name appears, one time at a club (I don't remember which one), I was reviewing my bill, and I noticed that it said I had two "sobremesas" (desserts). I was like wait a minute, I didn't have any desserts! They pointed out that was their discrete word for condoms LOLOLOL! Too funny!
[QUOTE=Greenburger;3084903]I am headed to SP from Rio this week.
Does Scandallo accept cash for everything?
I would love to pay cash so nothing show up on my card statement. Is it possible?
If not, what name appear when I spend in Scandallo?[/QUOTE]These are the names of highly reviewed venues that show up on my credit card statement.
Guess the venue. this is to help guys worried "I banged a braslian hooker.com showing up on cc statement kkk
King Tavern.
Matrix / Matrix Hqs
Hotel. H M
Matriz / SCD (some cards code different name).
GG BAR E RESTAURANTE
Novo Espao Morumbi.
CssBeauty Comercio
Serv Center.
MNC Cosmticos.
Estdio Servio.
W Estdio.
Infoshopping.
Bhbare Danceteria.
Smart Hotel Eireli.
Bhbaredanceteria.
Note for you cash dudes, carry exact amount needed to give the garota, clinica, prive, boate, getting back cash change in brazil is a big fvking hassle.
This is a quick round up of the mid to low tier Sao Paulo scene. It is current as of last month. The price of all services is R200 unless otherwise noted. I've written off Tangara because as they say in the southern USA, the juice is not worth the squeeze. The place is too often overrun with punters. It's a bit of a Brazilian sausage fest. When I manage to get enough of an angle around the crowds of Brazilian bros to see the girls I found myself regretting having spent the time. Anisha is just around the corner. I went with Angel there twice. I doubt there will be a third go around. The novelty of her anything goes technique wore off. I plan to keep an eye on their daily lineup because I like the low density layout of the single family home. I also like the laid back vibe of the place. It might be a little too laid back because there is no dedicated door or reception attendant. All the women do all the jobs. The front door has always been unlocked. The first time I was there back in July I waited alone and the front room until once of the girls came downstairs. The last time I was there I had to wait a bit longer but I could hear someone showering upstairs. The guy who came downstairs was very surprised to see me sitting in the front room. A moment after he shut the door behind him I was surprised when one of the girls yelled from upstairs "is anyone down there?" When I told her yes she told me to hold on and she would be down shortly. During my session it occurred to me that it isn't ideal that anyone could walk in as easily as I did. Anyway, rounding out the Vila Mariana scene, Yankin is old reliable. They now have three Japanese girls on staff. I've repeated with two of them and I'm likely continue. The taller one known as Japa makes up for the total lack of originality of her alias with good performance. She looks exactly like her photos on the Yankin daily lineup feed. The smaller one is not as pretty. She is early 20's and has a fresh and friendly manner and an excellent ass. I haven't been with the 3rd one known as Emy Japa. She's been there the longest and I think she is mid to late 30's. Clinica Chanel in Planalto Paulista is a few doors down from Novi Ceci. Chanel's building really needs to be refurbished. It's a bargain spot at R170 and you never know what you will find in there. I think the anarchy is what keeps me going back there. They are open until 2 am One of the administrators told me they let girls who work Avenida Indianapolis post up in there on cold nights. I'm more of a morning / afternoon person in Sao Paulo. Nova Ceci is my refuge when Chanel is too raunchy even for me. The beautiful high performer Carla works there and Yankin. She is another of the few girls who looks as good or better than her profile pics on the clinica daily lineup feed. She takes great care of herself and she is a top performer. Gentlemen, be safe and enjoy yourselves.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3084606]I have only done 3 threesomes in my entire life. It's never been my thing either (expensive), but I feel like each time I got really lucky and was with girls who were really into each other as well as into fucking me. My first experience was in Brazil at Centaurus in Rio when that termas was still good. Because I was actually with them both for two sessions, I called the whole experience a "dupla, dupla" or "double double". So maybe it counts as 2 times, I don't know. Bottom line is that if you luck out and strike gold with the right girls, they will rock your world! I wrote about my sexual exploits with them in an extensive report, but here's the short version (pics re-attached):
[POST]2571035[/POST]
The second threesome I did was in Madrid with two Albanian girls (yes that's right) at a club called Factory Air. Unforunately no pics for that session, but it was also epic! Both white chicks, one blonde and one brunette. I fucked the blonde in the ass. What is it with me and cornholing attractive blondes haha! I remember that the brunette liked to get slam fucked really, really, really hard! I couldn't do it hard enough for her it seemed. Fucked her so hard I had to check and make sure she was still breathing. Fucked the holy terror, cowboy shit out of her! All three of us got off on that shit! I wrote a detailed trip report about that session as well, but unfortunately can't find it.
My third and final threesome was with a blonde Hungarian (that's right fucked her in the butt) and a brunette Moldovan (this time the dark haired girl got ass fucked too) at a club at the Spanish border with France called Club Lady's Dallas. That was some kind of "butt sex party" let me tell you!
[POST]2133990[/POST][/QUOTE]A pity! In my opinion, dear friend, threesomes are among the best things you can get. Of course the ladies have to be well close each other. Thinking to my experience the best are sisters. Ohhh. So nice!
Butt sex parties are obviously definitively my business! May be with sisters!
IT.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3084924]When I was not with her during the week, I went to 57 a few times. 2 sessions with Misha. She roleplays a professor with her geeky glasses. Her look is 2 notches higher than a girl next door, but service is great and she is submissive. And yes, I came on those.[/QUOTE]I will be in Sao-Paulo next month and may I ask what is 57? I guess it is a Terma or so. What is the address or website? - I really like submissive girls and I would like to try Misha.
[QUOTE=IsaBahn;3085100]I will be in Sao-Paulo next month and may I ask what is 57? I guess it is a Terma or so. What is the address or website? - I really like submissive girls and I would like to try Misha.[/QUOTE]Google 57 friends house you will find it. I call it Casarao lite lite lite, or casaraozinha if you know pt.
You'll know it's Misha once you see her. She looks exactly like a teacher in a porn set.
She is a freelancer, aka a floater, I hope you find her. Once you do, get her whatsapp so you know where to find her.
[QUOTE=IsaBahn;3085100]I will be in Sao-Paulo next month and may I ask what is 57? I guess it is a Terma or so. What is the address or website? - I really like submissive girls and I would like to try Misha.[/QUOTE]57 House Friends Club.
Alameda dos Aicás, 1293 - Moema.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3085126]57 House Friends Club. Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema.[/QUOTE]I think it should be noted that 57 acts like a clinica in the afternoon and then turns into a small, friendly, neighborhood boate at night. I was last there in the early afternoon in June with a friend. There were only 3 girls available, of which, one was pretty good looking.
I went there a bunch of times because I lived around the block. The talent was see+ in the afternoons. Then it gets better as the hours get latter. Still, I saw way too many 5's and 6's over there. 9 pm you start to see 7's and 7.5's. I did see a blonde who might be a 8 or 8.5. Misha is around 7.5 to 8, and the fuckable kind. Abbodora might be best place to hit in Moema, or Indianapolis technically.
What is the name of your favorite venue when you charge by credit card?
Are they discrete or post as Brasilian [URL]Hooes.com[/URL] kkkk. Here is my list based on experience and simply asking on wassap.
Most reply in minutes about name & extra fee to use card. Some venues share machines, so one name can cover several places.
Monger Bonus points : How many of these venues you visited? one point per unique visit.
VENUE CARD STATEMENT NAME CITY.
- - -.
57 House. Kings Tavern SP.
Abbora. Clinica Shigga SP.
Afrodite. CLnica Edy [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] SP.
Akemi Spa Erotic. Roseane [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] SP.
Anisha Spa. Distribuidora SP.
Antares Spa Vanis. Studio SP.
Bali Spa. KP Servios e Esttica SP.
Brooklin CLnica. Wanis Esttica SP.
Carinas Spa. EC / Concept Master Servios SP.
Casaro Augusta. BH Bar e Danceteria SP & BhbareDanceteria (no spaces).
Casaro (hotel) - Smart Hotel Eireli SP.
Cherry CLnica Spa. MAT SP.
CLnica Anlia [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] . Auto Posto Anlia [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] SP.
CLnica Chanel. Oba Mix SP.
CLnica Miruna. CSS Bar e Eventos / CssBeauty SP.
CLnica Nova Ceci. Ralf Moon SP.
CLnica Prime Moema. Restaurante IPA SP.
Darkroom Massage. Infoshopping RJ.
Doutora Oyama Spa. AOYAMA SP.
Duda Masajes. Studiog RJ
Emporio Rio Centro. Studio G RJ
Espao Morumbi Novo. Espao Morumbi SP.
Fadas do Amor. Jose SP.
Gauguin. GG Bar e Restaurante SP.
Indy CLnica. Amanda [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] SP.
Kamala Spa. Postos e Servios SP.
Kin Center CLnica. Leandro [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] SP.
Lotus Lounge Spa. Santorini Bar SP.
Luminna Spa. Luminna Car Check SP.
Lux Spa. Esttica SP. Or Esttica.
Makena CLnica. Junior SP.
Michelle Alves Spa Prive. William SP.
Morumbi Spa. SPM SP.
Olimpo Massagem. OM SP.
Red Massage. Posto Red / Red Convenincia SP.
Scandallo (club) Matrix / Matrix HQs / Matrice / Matrice HQS / SCD SP (Amex & Discover & other cards code different).
Scandallo (hotel) Hotel HM SP.
Serv Center Ltda. Serv Center RJ.
Sharon Spa Premium. NTS SP.
Spa Moema. Postos de Convenincia SP.
Termas Monte Carlo. Termas Monte Carlo (Wise Pix: can be made to manager to avoid name of venue) RJ
Unique Spa. MV Convenincias SP.
Viver Spa. Postos de Servios SP.
Yankin CLnica. Studios SP.
Zeus CLnica. Xepa Bar SP.
Post updates if your statement shows something different and post your Monger Bonus points and a report dudes.
So Paulo: 41 venues
* Rio de Janeiro: 4 venues
* Total unique venues: 45
* Maximum Monger Bonus: 45 points
I counted Casaro Augusta vs. Casaro Hotel separately and Scandallo Club vs. Scandallo Hotel separately because they are different venues.
the credit card can be accepted by Casarao and rejected three times by the stupid Casarao Hotel
I went to a spot called Villa JK. It's a night club / music venue. There are plenty of pros in the crowd. If you are a man not accompanied by a date, they will make eye contact with you. I talked to a few, was quoted from 1500 to 2000. I had no intention to session that night,. But they are there. Pretty sure their prices will come down.
Larissa will probably be back working hard in Scandallo again this weekend or the next. She looks like a tanned Alexandra Daddario, but has a prettier chin. Treat her well for you will you?
Hey I am in São Paulo. If anyone wants to meet for beers or hit scandallo / casarao / gaugin etc. Hit me up.
At Tochka.
Are you sure it's a good idea to post this information here? This is an open forum and it's being indexed by search engines. If a wife or girlfriend searches for these highly specific words online, she will find this forum and your posting.
[QUOTE=Safado70;3085184]At Tochka.
Are you sure it's a good idea to post this information here? This is an open forum and it's being indexed by search engines. If a wife or girlfriend searches for these highly specific words online, she will find this forum and your posting.[/QUOTE]He didn't say his name, age, or which dates. There could be so many people. Do you have any idea how many people go to São Paulo every day?
[QUOTE=Pascoal2000;3085233]He didn't say his name, age, or which dates. There could be so many people. Do you have any idea how many people go to So Paulo every day?[/QUOTE]When I was a nervous newbie starting out many years ago, nobody could tell me what names actually showed up for these venues if used credit card, did scandallo or monte Carlos or clinica Prime show up as brasil hookers or similar name. .
The list passed through the admin's filter, doesn't contain any names, dates, or personal details, and it's just meant to help nervous newbies guys know what to expect on their statements if they choose to use a credit card or debit card. Today guys can use Wise Pix or Worldpay Pix to avoid those business names showing up on their card.
I I left out a bunch of favorite Rio spots, my score ended up at 45 points, but hey it's my list! Kkk.
The fcvking posto gasoline stations, car repair, car repair service, and internet shopping site infoshopping was damn confusing to see the first time. Power on keep the good reports flowing.
Hi guys,
I was a lurker for a long time but I decided to open an account, so much valuable information around here!
Last year I was in So Paulo for the F1 race; since I'D heard Scandallo's prices were insane, I decided to go to Casaro on Sunday. I arrived at midnight and it was pretty packed. Incredibly, I was the best-dressed guy there just wearing a polo shirt while everyone else was in McLaren or Ferrari tees, etc. (LOL). I decided to have a beer and soak up the atmosphere; I chatted with a couple of girls. I was expecting higher prices given the special weekend, and was around 300350 are $ for half an hour and 500600 are $ for an hour, which is actually within the normal range.
I was really tired and made a few rookie mistakes: I went to the motel next door with a redhead, and although she had a great attitude, the blowjob was with a condom; aside from that, it was a decent session. I managed to get a few numbers, especially from a brunette I hooked up with the next day. I was surprised by the quality of the girls lots of variety to suit every taste; there were definitely about 15 girls who were an 8 or higher!
I plan to go back this year to the F1 GP, though it's a bit tricky since my friends don't usually frequent the same places I do, haha.
Basically, this is just a first post to thank you all for the constant flow of information; and if you're going to the F1 and want to avoid Scandallo's prices, Casaro seems like a good option.
See you!
Just did the classic clinica tour in Moema. Here is the report:
Prime: about 10 women, a few were busy as I was told. I was in between a cute spinner morena and a pretty blonde. Went with the blonde as most men would. Her name is Cali, 35 ish. Her face is beautiful, but body shows age. The service was top notch, but I probably won't repeat because of all the other options. I might try the morena next time if I manage to come back and she's available.
Moah: 4 women, all in their 20's. They were 4's and 5's. I don't see myself returning here for lack of the talent.
57 House: 6 women, nice place, but similar to Moah, low talent and more expensive. I was told more will come in the evening.
Miruna: about 8 women. They seem to all be in their 30's or even 40's, some are very MILF and very fuckable. I would have gone for 2 of them but I am not in my MILF phase rn.
Abobora: about 8 women. 5 were attractive. I went with Fernanda, a tall and curcy branca. Good service, but she needs to be on adhd meds. Too much talk and extra movement. Maybe one of you can fix her.
Lumina: About 5 women. I would have also picked 2 of them if I did not already sessioned twice.
I will be visiting Casarao, Gauguin and Scandallo this weekend. Will report back.
Going to Sao Paulo in November. Just have to get my Airbnb. Anyways I plan not to get a Brazil visa and instead use my Jamaican passport for free entry and free departure. Quite risky. When I reach united states show my American passport. Any one can vouch for this working. AI pretty much signed off on it working as long as names are identical on the two passports.
[QUOTE=Greenburger;3085472]Just did the classic clinica tour in Moema. Here is the report:
Prime: about 10 women, a few were busy as I was told. I was in between a cute spinner morena and a pretty blonde. Went with the blonde as most men would. Her name is Cali, 35 ish. Her face is beautiful, but body shows age. The service was top notch, but I probably won't repeat because of all the other options. I might try the morena next time if I manage to come back and she's available.
Moah: 4 women, all in their 20's. They were 4's and 5's. I don't see myself returning here for lack of the talent.
57 House: 6 women, nice place, but similar to Moah, low talent and more expensive. I was told more will come in the evening.
Miruna: about 8 women. They seem to all be in their 30's or even 40's, some are very MILF and very fuckable. I would have gone for 2 of them but I am not in my MILF phase rn.
Abobora: about 8 women. 5 were attractive. I went with Fernanda, a tall and curcy branca. Good service, but she needs to be on adhd meds. Too much talk and extra movement. Maybe one of you can fix her.
Lumina: About 5 women. I would have also picked 2 of them if I did not already sessioned twice.
I will be visiting Casarao, Gauguin and Scandallo this weekend. Will report back.[/QUOTE]At Prime take Maria Clara, recommended to me by Llabo. Wow. What a girl. Passionate kissing great BJ. Fuck she even had four different RCG positions. High recommend.
[QUOTE=RobertAdams;3085354]Hi guys,
I was a lurker for a long time but I decided to open an account, so much valuable information around here!
Last year I was in So Paulo for the F1 race; since I'D heard Scandallo's prices were insane, I decided to go to Casaro on Sunday. I arrived at midnight and it was pretty packed. Incredibly, I was the best-dressed guy there just wearing a polo shirt while everyone else was in McLaren or Ferrari tees, etc. (LOL). I decided to have a beer and soak up the atmosphere; I chatted with a couple of girls. I was expecting higher prices given the special weekend, and was around 300350 are $ for half an hour and 500600 are $ for an hour, which is actually within the normal range.
I was really tired and made a few rookie mistakes: I went to the motel next door with a redhead, and although she had a great attitude, the blowjob was with a condom; aside from that, it was a decent session. I managed to get a few numbers, especially from a brunette I hooked up with the next day. I was surprised by the quality of the girls lots of variety to suit every taste; there were definitely about 15 girls who were an 8 or higher!
I plan to go back this year to the F1 GP, though it's a bit tricky since my friends don't usually frequent the same places I do, haha.
Basically, this is just a first post to thank you all for the constant flow of information; and if you're going to the F1 and want to avoid Scandallo's prices, Casaro seems like a good option.
See you![/QUOTE]I've been to Scandallo many times over the years but never during F1 week. Am planning to go this year though, what should I expect in terms of prices? Are girls not willing to go for their standard rate during F1 week?
[QUOTE=Blakman;3085492]Going to Sao Paulo in November. Just have to get my Airbnb. Anyways I plan not to get a Brazil visa and instead use my Jamaican passport for free entry and free departure. Quite risky. When I reach united states show my American passport. Any one can vouch for this working. AI pretty much signed off on it working as long as names are identical on the two passports.[/QUOTE]Am here using my EU passport. You just leave the US on the blue book, enter / exit Brazil using your 2nd passport, then enter US using the blue one again.
It's easy with Brazil, just do what I said you will be fine. Certain countries are more strict, but that's irrelevant here.
Gauguin turned out to be amazing for me. This is coming from a guy who stated in earlier posts that he had no plans to go to Gauguin. I was completely wrong to write off Gauguin. Thanks to forum member Bearsi for encouraging me to look beyond just Casarao.
While it is true that there is a significant overlap between the quality of girls at Casarao and Gauguin. There is also no denying that on any given night, there are simply more gems at Gauguin than Casarao. For me this was enough to justify the material increase in price. As a club, I do like Casarao more, but for the girls, Gauguin has a higher ceiling.
For context, I went to Casarao 8-9 times, and only took 3 girls. At Gauguin, I went 3 times and all 3 times I took a girl. And amazingly, each subsequent girl was better than the previous one!
Thus, as my luck would have it, I invariably did not find my dreamgirl until the very end of the trip. And for this trip, it was actually the very last girl I took. Finally, after several weeks, I had found my version of the marine biology student =). She was beautiful, charming and we had amazing sex. What more is there to say other than fuck me, I can't believe I met her at the end of the trip. This is the kind of girl you take on long dates and make incredible experiences with. The kind of experiences that you reflect on years from now and smile and think "man, I have lived an amazing life. ".
Of course, given the unrealized conclusion. The only logical decision is to return as soon as possible =D.
Thank you Sao Paulo, it's been an amazing first time experience. And thank you to all the great forum homies who I've met along the way.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3085652]Gauguin turned out to be amazing for me. This is coming from a guy who stated in earlier posts that he had no plans to go to Gauguin. I was completely wrong to write off Gauguin. Thanks to forum member Bearsi for encouraging me to look beyond just Casarao.
While it is true that there is a significant overlap between the quality of girls at Casarao and Gauguin. There is also no denying that on any given night, there are simply more gems at Gauguin than Casarao. For me this was enough to justify the material increase in price. As a club, I do like Casarao more, but for the girls, Gauguin has a higher ceiling.
For context, I went to Casarao 8-9 times, and only took 3 girls. At Gauguin, I went 3 times and all 3 times I took a girl. And amazingly, each subsequent girl was better than the previous one!
Thus, as my luck would have it, I invariably did not find my dreamgirl until the very end of the trip. And for this trip, it was actually the very last girl I took. Finally, after several weeks, I had found my version of the marine biology student =). She was beautiful, charming and we had amazing sex. What more is there to say other than fuck me, I can't believe I met her at the end of the trip. This is the kind of girl you take on long dates and make incredible experiences with..[/QUOTE]Nice report. I plan to visit Casarao tonight, Gauguin tomorrow and Scandallo on Sunday. Can you talk about the fees in Gauguin? Entrance, consumption and price range?
I am climbing the SP ladder one day at a time.
[QUOTE=Spbrlove;3085170]I went to a spot called Villa JK. It's a night club / music venue. There are plenty of pros in the crowd. If you are a man not accompanied by a date, they will make eye contact with you. I talked to a few, was quoted from 1500 to 2000. I had no intention to session that night,. But they are there. Pretty sure their prices will come down.
Larissa will probably be back working hard in Scandallo again this weekend or the next. She looks like a tanned Alexandra Daddario, but has a prettier chin. Treat her well for you will you?[/QUOTE]OK, I am finally caught up on the marine bio student inside joke (only after 10 pages of reading).
I will try to meet her this weekend. Maybe I will try Scandallo on Sat, then Gauguin next week.
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3085652]Gauguin turned out to be amazing for me. This is coming from a guy who stated in earlier posts that he had no plans to go to Gauguin. I was completely wrong to write off Gauguin. Thanks to forum member Bearsi for encouraging me to look beyond just Casarao.
Thank you Sao Paulo, it's been an amazing first time experience. And thank you to all the great forum homies who I've met along the way.[/QUOTE]
Really great to see you had a busy and productive time, but sucks tht you met your favorite girl at the end of your trip and not in the beginning, but as you said, only makes it more important to get back ASAP to pick up again with her.
A buddy and I will be in Sao Paolo for a month from December to January. It will be his first time, and my 5th time, but haven't been since my last trip there in 2021. We will hit the daytime places and then bounce between Scandello, Casarao and Gauguin at night.
We will be looking for the "part-timers", university girls and girls who just arrived in Sao Paolo from other parts of Brazil rather than the "full-time" regular working girls.
I imagine we will find these types sprinkled throughout the different venues, but any opinions on which venue or venues have more "part-timers" or fresh talent?
[QUOTE=ChanceSome;3085652]Gauguin turned out to be amazing for me. This is coming from a guy who stated in earlier posts that he had no plans to go to Gauguin. I was completely wrong to write off Gauguin. Thanks to forum member Bearsi for encouraging me to look beyond just Casarao.
While it is true that there is a significant overlap between the quality of girls at Casarao and Gauguin. There is also no denying that on any given night, there are simply more gems at Gauguin than Casarao. For me this was enough to justify the material increase in price. As a club, I do like Casarao more, but for the girls, Gauguin has a higher ceiling.
For context, I went to Casarao 8-9 times, and only took 3 girls. At Gauguin, I went 3 times and all 3 times I took a girl. And amazingly, each subsequent girl was better than the previous one!
Thus, as my luck would have it, I invariably did not find my dreamgirl until the very end of the trip. And for this trip, it was actually the very last girl I took. Finally, after several weeks, I had found my version of the marine biology student =). She was beautiful, charming and we had amazing sex. What more is there to say other than fuck me, I can't believe I met her at the end of the trip. This is the kind of girl you take on long dates and make incredible experiences with. The kind of experiences that you reflect on years from now and smile and think "man, I have lived an amazing life. ".
Of course, given the unrealized conclusion. The only logical decision is to return as soon as possible =D.
Thank you Sao Paulo, it's been an amazing first time experience. And thank you to all the great forum homies who I've met along the way.[/QUOTE]Don't despair that the last was your best. Just keep it rolling! I met N as the very last girl of my November 2024 trip after 10 other girls. 💯 smitten with this girl even tho we only spent an hour together. Met her again in SP in May 2025 and a quick lunch date turned into three days together. Since then we've been on vacay in Ilhabela and I've flown her to England and Spain. Seeing her again and flying to Rio in two weeks! So we are two year in now!
Moral of the story? Chemistry is chemisty. Don't let it die out. Fly her out. You fly in. That last girl of the trip can be your best girl in coming years!
[QUOTE=Blakman;3085492]Going to Sao Paulo in November. Just have to get my Airbnb. Anyways I plan not to get a Brazil visa and instead use my Jamaican passport for free entry and free departure. Quite risky. When I reach united states show my American passport. Any one can vouch for this working. AI pretty much signed off on it working as long as names are identical on the two passports.[/QUOTE]Yes, it works. Usually the security will verify both your passports before the embarkation on the last leg to Brazil and mark it. Your US passport data will be entered onto the airline database.
I'll be landing at Congonhas on 23 October and leaving for the USA On 25 October. I've been doing my RTFF in this section and taking many notes. I really have only one day and two nights to experience what SP has to offer so I'll try for the places and people you all recommend. I speak Portuguese so I'm hoping that will give me an edge.
One question: I didn't see Nuru massage come up when I was looking at the clinicas. Is it offered, and is it a real-live Nuru massage? Is mutual touch allowed? Real-live Nuru massage seems rare in my part of the USA And is expensive once it's found, so I want to take advantage of opportunity in SP (Rio, too) if available.
I'll post a full report when I get back to the USA.
[QUOTE=Creideiki;3085984]I'll be landing at Congonhas on 23 October and leaving for the USA On 25 October. I've been doing my RTFF in this section and taking many notes. I really have only one day and two nights to experience what SP has to offer so I'll try for the places and people you all recommend. I speak Portuguese so I'm hoping that will give me an edge.
One question: I didn't see Nuru massage come up when I was looking at the clinicas. Is it offered, and is it a real-live Nuru massage? Is mutual touch allowed? Real-live Nuru massage seems rare in my part of the USA And is expensive once it's found, so I want to take advantage of opportunity in SP (Rio, too) if available.
I'll post a full report when I get back to the USA.[/QUOTE]Saw your question in the Rio page as well. I think as far as SP goes, just go to Casarao and chat up with whoever is your type. Take her for a test ride next door. If she performs well, then offer to take her back and do the nuru thing you want. If you don't see anyone of your liking, uber to Scandallo or Gauguin. I would not even bother with clinics for just 3 calenders in town (especially if you land late and depart early).
[QUOTE=Creideiki;3085984]I'll be landing at Congonhas on 23 October and leaving for the USA On 25 October. I've been doing my RTFF in this section and taking many notes. I really have only one day and two nights to experience what SP has to offer so I'll try for the places and people you all recommend. I speak Portuguese so I'm hoping that will give me an edge.
One question: I didn't see Nuru massage come up when I was looking at the clinicas. Is it offered, and is it a real-live Nuru massage? Is mutual touch allowed? Real-live Nuru massage seems rare in my part of the USA And is expensive once it's found, so I want to take advantage of opportunity in SP (Rio, too) if available.
I'll post a full report when I get back to the USA.[/QUOTE]My advice always to guys all over the world is: Do what that country / city does best. Always. So don't go to Brasil and do Nuru. Go to Tokyo. In São Paulo go to Scandallo and Casarao. Save your nickels and do it. When you go to Japan don't go to the clubs. Do Nuru. Simple as that. Do what the country / city offers as its best offering rather than force fitting something. You won't be sorry.
Go to miruna and other moema prives, get your cost per fuck per minute adjusted then go to casarao, and bring a prive girl, and skip scandallo. Research on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL], which has banned scandallo (why?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3086039]My advice always to guys all over the world is: Do what that country / city does best. Always. So don't go to Brasil and do Nuru. Go to Tokyo. In So Paulo go to Scandallo and Casarao. Save your nickels and do it. When you go to Japan don't go to the clubs. Do Nuru. Simple as that. Do what the country / city offers as its best offering rather than force fitting something. You won't be sorry.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Creideiki;3085984] I didn't see Nuru massage come up when I was looking at the clinicas. Is it offered, and is it a real-live Nuru massage? Is mutual touch allowed? [/QUOTE]Check topmassagens for nuru.
[URL]https://topmassagens.com.br/cidade/sao-paulo/[/URL]
Check gp guia for reviews.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3086039]My advice always to guys all over the world is: Do what that country / city does best. Always. So don't go to Brasil and do Nuru. Go to Tokyo. In So Paulo go to Scandallo and Casarao. Save your nickels and do it. When you go to Japan don't go to the clubs. Do Nuru. Simple as that. Do what the country / city offers as its best offering rather than force fitting something. You won't be sorry.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. Brazil just isn't set up for nuru as you need ceramic floor and air mattress that can get wet. In addition to Japan, nuru is pretty good in Thailand as well where they have been doing soapy massages for decades so they already have the right facilities for this.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3086147]I agree with this. Brazil just isn't set up for nuru as you need ceramic floor and air mattress that can get wet. In addition to Japan, nuru is pretty good in Thailand as well where they have been doing soapy massages for decades so they already have the right facilities for this.[/QUOTE]Yeah actually in Japan they have special air mattresses specifically for Nuru. They are concave to keep all the Nuru gel inside and not out on the floor. It's colloquially called the "rubber dinghy" because it's like a little life boat. 🤣.
It really depends what definition of nuru you are using. If strictly referring to the traditional Japanese version, with nuru gel and an air mattress, then yes this could be hard to find in Brazil. But if you're referring to a bodyslide with some type of oil and a tatami mattress, it's not difficult to find at all. Brazil has an extensive scene for this. They may call it nuru in their advertising, but its not the traditional Japanese version in my experience. The trick is filtering out the places that advertise nuru but it's a token massage and the focus is the program, vs. The places that really actually focus on the massage and bodyslide. Some of these latter places have limited extras, while others have more.
Casarao. 60 for entry. 60 can be used towards consumable. They only have drinks here, although Monday they do have some bbq food. Midnight is primetime.
Gauguin: 150 before 9 PM. 350 after. Consumable only applies to drinks. I think primetime here is 11 PM.
Scandallo. 400 before 7 PM. 600 after. Consumable applies to food and drinks. Only went once, so can't really make recommendation.
Given that Casarao is the most accessible, this venue will probably give you the highest chances of encountering a semi-pro.
I've had a weird trip this go around.
Every person I have been with at Scandallo has done CBJ and honestly hasn't been great in bed. While being way overpriced.
Best sessions have been Scarlett at Moah for 210, Evelyn at casarao for 500,2 sessions I've had at gaugin for 1000 each.
I think Gaugin is replacing Scandallo for me. I'm going to give scan one more try tonight. Hoping to run across one of these mythical marine bio students.
One other thing that I noticed on my credit card is Scandallo's hotel people double charged me last time. Definitely check your receipt carefully before walking away as they are getting shifty.
One other crazy thing occurred on my second casarao trip, I was taking an uber back home at 2 am. I was staying in paulista so not very far and I had a driver mid trip try aggressively demand I give him 100 usd. I tried to pretend I didn't understand him most of the trip until he got more aggressive, I literally hopped out of the car, stood behind two police that were posted on the street till he drove off. Then proceeded to jog the remaining 3/4 of a mile to my hotel at 2 am. So now that's a worry every time I get into a late night uber here.
I finally made it to Scandallo. I went to Sharks last year. I did 2 girls both GFE, Anal. The both ate my ass. $are 1500, & $R1700.
I fucked them hard anal. I did not pick 10's. I wanted GFE so they were about 8. I did not go for model looking girls.
Scandallo is much better than Sharks in my opinion. More variety and GFR and anal. BZ girls are awesome.
The GFE was out of this world.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086441]I finally made it to Scandallo. I went to Sharks last year. I did 2 girls both GFE, Anal. The both ate my ass. $are 1500, & $R1700.
I fucked them hard anal. I did not pick 10's. I wanted GFE so they were about 8. I did not go for model looking girls.
Scandallo is much better than Sharks in my opinion. More variety and GFR and anal. BZ girls are awesome.
The GFE was out of this world.[/QUOTE]So after all of the questions you asked here, and after all of the feedback and help you received, I hope you intend to provide a more detailed report than that. Otherwise, it's a gross imbalance between what was received versus what was given back.
[QUOTE=The Cane;3086479]So after all of the questions you asked here, and after all of the feedback and help you received, I hope you intend to provide a more detailed report than that. Otherwise, it's a gross imbalance between what was received versus what was given back.[/QUOTE]
sorry. I typed that up 2 in AM.
I don't know whether to go back to Scandallo or try Gauguin tonight?
Its pretty much like you all said it. Great Advice From Everybody. Thank you.
Im staying at Intercontinental hotel. nice hotel. decent price took uber to Scandallo. I paid with schwab debit for entrance.
The main thing I highly advise getting WISE APP. Transfering money via pix in Wise APP is super easy and you don't have to carry alot of cash.
Also Fake Instagram and Fake(Additional) Whats APP Business is good with a google number to get the girls numbers
I used "Translate" APP for conversation. I think its better than google translate and your conversation don't stay in google.
The girls are beautiful. All types. Models to girl next door as you all said. I have never seen this many beautiful women in such a nice club.
Daniela: blond ; 28 years old I think. probably 7 or 8. nice body. tight ass. 5 feet 2 inches She was screaming while I fucked her in the ass. She licked my butthole for like 10 minutes.
She couldn't walk straight when we finish. Her pussy was so small and sweet.
GFE was awesome. Just begging me to do her. She was French kissing me at the Bar. ( I didn't get this level of GFE at Sharks)
Eloisa: 25 y/o ; 5 feet 10 ; 8 may be (Girl next door, Innocent and charming) nice firm body. Beautiful Ass. Oh my god I fucked her hard doggy style. damn. We used like 5 or 6 condomns. GFE was absolutely the best. Again another nice delicious pussy. damn tight tight tight. Oh my god I love her butt hole
we ran over 1 hour. I was drenched afterwards.
Both girls had a hard time going fast doing anal. I think they were just hurting. so I went slow at the beginning and then pounded it.
I recommend highly to take PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis) Medication. I started 1 day in advance. ( I took Descovy). I'm going to take it this week.
I should talk to the girls to let me take pictures.
Tonight I probably go after super models. probably less GFE; may be they don't do anal as much.
I wish my dick was stronger to fuck 3 or 4. I barely could do two girls.
Again Thank you so much for all the advice
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086497]Damn; I just did a long report and it did not go through. I will try again later.[/QUOTE]Goody, goody! Eagerly looking forward to it. With my perverted self! Here's another tip for anyone writing reports. Don't write the initial piece here on the site itself. Do it in Word or somewhere else, then cut and paste. That way, if something goes wrong with the site (especially in recent times), then you won't lose all your work here and have to start over!
It is interesting to read such completely opposing experiences as related in the last two posts from Wavarry & David. David's field report is more in line with all of my experiences in Scan except for the anal part. I am not inclined to go that route. And I can't figure out what went wrong for Wavarry. Care to elaborate Mr. Wavarry? Perhaps experienced Scan goers can help you out. Your Uber ride sounds utterly incredible, in fact almost unbelievable.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086497]I don't know whether to go back to Scandallo or try Gauguin tonight?
Daniela: blond ; 28 years old I think. probably 7 or 8. nice body. tight ass. 5 feet 2 inches She was screaming while I fucked her in the ass. She licked my butthole for like 10 minutes.
She couldn't walk straight when we finish. Her pussy was so small and sweet. GFE was awesome. Just begging me to do her. She was French kissing me at the Bar. (I didn't get this level of GFE at Sharks).[/QUOTE]I hope she's there when I arrive next month. I'm not the type to go actively looking for girls somebody else wrote about, but if I find myself talking to a short blonde named "Daniela" and I find her attractive? I'm going for a ride on the A-train! First David Anderson enjoyed "safe passage". My turn! And yes, do try Gaugin. Don't go all that way and not experience one of the best clubs in town. Last time there, I assed fucked an attractive blonde who was pulling her alabaster butt cheeks apart so I could burrow in deeper. Try it. You might like it. Just don't pay Scandallo prices!
[QUOTE=Wavarry;3086389]I've had a weird trip this go around.
One other crazy thing occurred on my second casarao trip, I was taking an uber back home at 2 am. I was staying in paulista so not very far and I had a driver mid trip try aggressively demand I give him 100 usd. I tried to pretend I didn't understand him most of the trip until he got more aggressive, I literally hopped out of the car, stood behind two police that were posted on the street till he drove off. Then proceeded to jog the remaining 3/4 of a mile to my hotel at 2 am. So now that's a worry every time I get into a late night uber here.[/QUOTE]Bailouts, Trap Cars & Safety Tips on Rua Augusta (SP).
First off, glad you made it out safe! Not all the sharks are inside the clubs or behind the bar at Gauguin (which, by the way, literally has an actual shark tank behind the bar).
My thoughts on navigating So Paulo & Rio nightlife.
1. Report That Uber Driver Immediately.
Definitely report the driver to Uber Brasil. They actually take safety violations very seriously.
2. Rua Augusta Late Night (2 AM 5 AM).
It's unfortunate, but the stretch of Rua Augusta between 2 AM and 5 AM is an entirely different beast. The freaks really do come out at night. I've posted about having a Casaro garota doing a bailout oN Rua Augusta.
3. Dealing with the Polcia Militar.
Hate to say it, but the Polcia Militar in Brazil are known for knocking heads first and asking, "Oh, you're the victim?" later. Kkk. That said, the tourist-area PMs around Copacabana and Rua Augusta are pretty accustomed to gringos getting into strange late-night situations. Copa area PM always seems to have lots of road checkpoints in and out of Copa, Botafogo, areas. Checking for moleques from nearby favelas.
4. You Were 100% Right to Bail.
(My "Trap Car" Experience).
You did the right thing jumping out. Years ago before Uber went international. A stripclub doorman flagged down a cab for me late at night with one of those fake "Kojak" removable taxi lights on the roof.
I got in, and immediately things went sideways:
* he drove right past the nextbstrip club where I was heading.
* I looked around and realized the car had no interior door handles and no window cranks it was a literal trap car.
* he kept driving toward one of the worst parts of town, then slowed down to let his buddy hop into the back seat.
Fuvk the moment he slowed down, I hit him in the side of the head with a Tae Kwon Do kick from the back, kicked the door wide open directly into his buddy's stomach, and bailed into the street.
I had to sprint a mile and a half through a heavy favela zone to get back to safety. I was determined that if anyone or mofo car approached me on that jog, it was not going to end well for them, zero chances taken that night.
My uber and cab rule for Transport Now.
Ever since that night, I follow a strict protocol:
* Uber first There is at least a baseline level of driver vetting. Plus audio and video recording. Other rideshare apps in Brazil don't vet drivers nearly as well, leading to far more security issues.
* Garota Approved: The working girls at Scandallo, Casaro, and Gauguin almost exclusively use Uber for their own safety over the cheaper local apps. I ask them which they use and which they avoid. Sorry dudes I prefer opinion of garotas than this forum about using local shit.
* The Door Check: I will never step inside a car without automatically checking that the interior door handles work and that I have a clear escape route.
* Recordings On: I keep safety features and audio / video recording enabled for every single trip.
Stay safe out there, keep your head on a swivel, and trust your gut the second a situation feels off. "Not a sermon just a thought" kkk
[QUOTE=Tochka;3086547]Bailouts, Trap Cars & Safety Tips on Rua Augusta (SP).
Stay safe out there, keep your head on a swivel, and trust your gut the second a situation feels off. "Not a sermon just a thought" kkk[/QUOTE]What do you mean by?
* Recordings On: I keep safety features and audio / video recording enabled for every single trip.
Where do you turn that on?
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086551]What do you mean by?
* Recordings On: I keep safety features and audio / video recording enabled for every single trip.
Where do you turn that on?[/QUOTE]You can have uber on your phone record audio during rides. Some drivers have it on as well. Look for it in the settings or google it.
But for the video recording the driver has to have the camera installed like a dashcam interior. Unless you just want to keep your video on during each ride then if anything goes bad submit the video to uber.
[QUOTE=Wavarry;3086389]One other crazy thing occurred on my second casarao trip, I was taking an uber back home at 2 am. I was staying in paulista so not very far and I had a driver mid trip try aggressively demand I give him 100 usd. I tried to pretend I didn't understand him most of the trip until he got more aggressive, I literally hopped out of the car, stood behind two police that were posted on the street till he drove off. Then proceeded to jog the remaining 3/4 of a mile to my hotel at 2 am. So now that's a worry every time I get into a late night uber here.[/QUOTE]That sounds crazy all right. My girls all take Uber Black and nothing else. I originally thought it was because I was paying, but lately I been thinking that they know what they are doing. On 2 occasions I have changed plans while in an Uber. The driver was fine with it, but I got a message from Uber central asking if everything was alright. SP is safe until it isn't. Make sure you are entering an Uber, the Uber you scheduled, and not a fake one especially late at night in a dicey neighborhood.
How about 99?
Especially late night rides with valuable technology.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3086547]Bailouts, Trap Cars & Safety Tips on Rua Augusta (SP).
First off, glad you made it out safe! Not all the sharks are inside the clubs or behind the bar at Gauguin (which, by the way, literally has an actual shark tank behind the bar).
My thoughts on navigating So Paulo & Rio nightlife.
1. Report That Uber Driver Immediately.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086525]I hope she's there when I arrive next month. I'm not the type to go actively looking for girls somebody else wrote about, but if I find myself talking to a short blonde named "Daniela" and I find her attractive? I'm going for a ride on the A-train! First David Anderson enjoyed "safe passage". My turn! And yes, do try Gaugin. Don't go all that way and not experience one of the best clubs in town. Last time there, I assed fucked an attractive blonde who was pulling her alabaster butt cheeks apart so I could burrow in deeper. Try it. You might like it. Just don't pay Scandallo prices![/QUOTE]Oh my mistake, my mistake! The Italian-Brazilian branca "Jessica" spreading her ass cheeks wide was at the new Bomboa. That's the place. The one at Gauguin was a Polish-Brazilian blonde going by "Luna" who at first said she didn't want me to do anything to her butt hole. But then she was quite pleased to let a gringo eat her ass! I don't know too many girls who will turn that down, but some do. Anyway, been with so many Brazilian brancas I start getting the different sessions and clubs mixed up. Although, that doesn't happen with the Scandallo girls haha!
The rumor on telgram is that Karen has retired.
Prime has not been the same since the retirement of Najia, now Karen.
I hope this is not true or she would change her mind. If you're in town, please go ask and let me know.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3086573]How about 99?
Especially late night rides with valuable technology.[/QUOTE]Is it Garota approved? Is it Used late night by Garotas or used more by dudes than garotas? Those Centro prive garotas with gringo cash in their bolsas got to get their anal splooged asses home too! Which options they chose? Let me know what they say. ?
Some centro prive garotas take metro or onibus if its 6 pm or 7 pm. I have seen them leave rio branco offices walking direct to Metro Estao Carioca or sometimes we walk together to Metro Cinelndia to grab a few drinks along the way... some do evening shift at Eden or shift start at 6pm Monte Carlos . they are docked if late
Shit why Centro has random places on the street in the evening that are happy hour drinking spots for the funcionrios.
Termas garotas in copa or botafoga Panda hop on motos, uber motos, is there 99 motos too?
Vagabundo let me know when you ask centro garotas & its their grana what they use as transport home.?
i have a Jae card for Rio and BILHETE
UNICO to ride free of charge in SP
kkk
Fake Taxi?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3086569]That sounds crazy all right. My girls all take Uber Black and nothing else. I originally thought it was because I was paying, but lately I been thinking that they know what they are doing. On 2 occasions I have changed plans while in an Uber. The driver was fine with it, but I got a message from Uber central asking if everything was alright. SP is safe until it isn't. Make sure you are entering an Uber, the Uber you scheduled, and not a fake one especially late at night in a dicey neighborhood.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3086569]That sounds crazy all right. My girls all take Uber Black and nothing else. I originally thought it was because I was paying, but lately I been thinking that they know what they are doing. On 2 occasions I have changed plans while in an Uber. The driver was fine with it, but I got a message from Uber central asking if everything was alright. SP is safe until it isn't. Make sure you are entering an Uber, the Uber you scheduled, and not a fake one especially late at night in a dicey neighborhood.[/QUOTE]Brazil's cars have tags on the front. On Uber they always show the license number as well as the make / model of the car. Don't get in any car unless everything matches. I learned that in Belém.
Safety rule #1!
[QUOTE=Creideiki;3086644]Brazil's cars have tags on the front. On Uber they always show the license number as well as the make / model of the car. Don't get in any car unless everything matches. I learned that in Belm.[/QUOTE]
I landed at GRU on a weekday around 8:30 AM. The airport was fairly empty, with almost no lines, and getting through customs was quick. All I needed was a printout of my Brazilian visa and my passport.
Once through customs around 9:30 AM, I connected to the airport's free Wi-Fi and ordered an Uber. Traffic in SP is no joke. It took about an hour to get to the hotel and cost around are $150.
Hotel Canopy by Hilton, Jardins.
I stayed at the Canopy by Hilton in Jardins. It's a solid 4-star boutique hotel, which I booked through the Hilton Honors website.
Free breakfast was included, which was a nice surprise.
I booked the room for one adult. I had guests come and go during both the day and night, and surprisingly, nobody stopped me or asked me to pay anything extra.
The hotel was quiet, with a solid king-size bed, and overall I felt it was a very safe option.
For lunch, I went around the corner to Mug. Sp Caf. Great coffee and a nice place for light snacks or an afternoon meal.
Day Trip The Palms Spa.
My first stop was The Palms Spa.
The place was very clean and quiet. I met the Argentinian owner, who spoke fluent English. He showed me an iPad with the available girls and made a recommendation.
His recommendation turned out to be good. She had a great, bubbly personality and provided everything I was looking for.
That said, the overall experience felt a little sterile. I have nothing negative to say about the place, but I also didn't leave feeling like it was anything particularly special.
Cost: are $500 to the house + are $450 to the girl.
Gauguin.
Around 1:30 AM, I took an Uber to Gauguin.
After front desk, grabbed a drink, and walked around for a while just to get my bearings.
The place has a fun energy and a little bit of everything: plenty of girls to choose from, a striptease show, and live music.
I chatted with a few girls and eventually decided to take Carla out. I paid her house fee, around are $250-300, and we went to a dive bar that was absolutely packed with locals.
We listened to a live rock band until 3 AM. It was a blast and a great way to experience a little local culture.
Afterward, we went back to my hotel, where she stayed until 7 AM. We exchanged WhatsApp information but never spoke again.
She was a nice girl and the experience was good, but SP simply has too many options to stop at one.
Carla's fee: are $750.
Scandallo.
The second night, I went to Scandallo around midnight.
It's a great place, and I can see why everyone raves about it. You could spend all day and night there and always find someone new to meet.
After walking around for a while, I settled into an outdoor bar area. It was less crowded and quieter, which made it perfect for having conversations.
That's where I met Paulina. She was very pleasant, friendly, and talkative.
I decided to take her out after paying her house fee of are $400.
We went back to my hotel, and she stayed until around 7:308:00 AM. She was outgoing, fun, and we had a great time together.
We exchanged WhatsApp information, but I never followed up.
I definitely overpaid here: Paulina's fee was are $3,000.
Fatal Model.
After waking up in the afternoon, I decided to try [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL]
Best decision I made on the trip.
I did have a few rules when selecting there. Girl had to have reviews on the site, and she needed to have been recently active to make sure her pictures were current and accurate.
I arranged a two-hour meeting at my hotel through WhatsApp. Mona Lisa arrived on time at 3 PM.
She looked exactly like her pictures, and her attitude and personality were fantastic.
We had a drink at the hotel bar before going upstairs.
Long story short, two hours later she called her friend Jaqueline to join us, and we decided to go to a love motel.
We ended up at Motel Austurias, and this place was awesome. The suite had a swimming pool with a fully retractable roof.
Add two gorgeous girls, food, drinks, and marola to the mix, and I was in paradise.
The girls ended up spending time with me from 3 PM until 8 PM the next day.
Total pay to both: are $5,500.
I will definitely be contacting Mona Lisa when I come back to So Paulo. Staying at the motel with these two girls was the highlight of my trip. I still have a smile on my face thinking about it.
It was a short reconnaissance trip. I didn't make it to any of the restaurants I had originally planned to visit, but I don't have any regrets about that.
I was worried that knowing zero Portuguese would be a problem. However, because I speak a little Spanish, I was able to communicate successfully about 80% of the time without a translator. Most of the girls understood my broken English / Spanish, and I could understand them well enough.
For paying the girls, I used the Wallbit app, which I highly recommend. I only went to an ATM once, just to have some cash in my pocket.
Everywhere else, I used my credit card without any issues.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3086578]Is it Garota approved? Is it Used late night by Garotas or used more by dudes than garotas? Those Centro prive garotas with gringo cash in their bolsas got to get their anal splooged asses home too! Which options they chose? Let me know what they say. ?
kkk[/QUOTE]I have been using Uber Black; its cheap and excellent.
I got there at 8:30. It seems its best to get there after 9 PM; It gets more crowed.
Talked to this mix girl (exotic looking girl); she said no to anal and also no chemistry. I moved on.
Had Steak dinner And beer. I saw this brunette that was 8 or 9; very sweet. She was about 25. Its interesting I have been going for brunettes.
I paid her R$ 1500 for 1 hour.
She licked me everywhere. She licked my butthole for 5-10 minutes. BBBJ. I ate and I mean ate her pussy and ass. We fucked in every imaginable position. Then I came in between her butt cheeks.
At some point she sucked my cock for so long; it must of been for 10 minutes. She said she didn't do full anal but I put the tip in there. I had my thumb in there all the time. Thats how I usually come doggy style. I have never had my butt licked this much the past couple of nights
I don't why it took me an hour to come. I think I'm not used to having sex everyday.
She let me do pictures and videos during the entire time. I post later
I love using the WISE APP
May be I will try Gauguin tonight.
I made it to Gauguin. I'm glad I went. Almost didn't go. I was going to go to Scandallo.
Actually I like Gauguin alot. Its like a club with music and the most beautiful girls.
The quality of the girls the same as Scandallo. The price cheaper. The rooms are very nice. Same as Scandallo.
I did 2 girls. Both Beautiful. 25 y/o and 30 y/o
GFE out of this world. We had to extend time. I did everything I wanted to do. The 2nd one did NOt want to do anal and I did not push it. I was not sure my Dick could do it.
I paid $1000 and $1200. Got my ass eaten out. CIM. BBBJ and everything else.
I loved the band. The music and atomosphere was awesome.
Brazil is God's gift to men.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086801]I made it to Gauguin. I'm glad I went. Almost didn't go. I was going to go to Scandallo. Actually I like Gauguin alot. Its like a club with music and the most beautiful girls. The quality of the girls the same as Scandallo. The price cheaper. The rooms are very nice. Same as Scandallo. I did 2 girls. Both Beautiful. 25 y/o and 30 y/o. GFE out of this world. We had to extend time. I did everything I wanted to do. The 2nd one did NOt want to do anal and I did not push it. I was not sure my Dick could do it. I paid $1000 and $1200. Got my ass eaten out. CIM. BBBJ and everything else. I loved the band. The music and atomosphere was awesome. Brazil is God's gift to men.[/QUOTE]You paid a bit on the high side for Gauguin action, but you did get your ass ate, and that's a premium service a lot of girls won't do so LOL! I bet the Polish-Brazilian loira I sessioned with at this "Scandallo Lite" bragged to her "bestie" about the gringo who licked her pink butt hole then paid for the privilege. Talk about blackmail material! Well, I'm retired now so don't give a good got damn! Haha! And I only paid 800 reais for the pleasure LMAO! I'll munch that "bum bum" again too if I see her! A monger sure will!
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086801]I made it to Gauguin. I'm glad I went. Almost didn't go. I was going to go to Scandallo.
Actually I like Gauguin alot. Its like a club with music and the most beautiful girls.
The quality of the girls the same as Scandallo. The price cheaper. The rooms are very nice. Same as Scandallo.
I did 2 girls. Both Beautiful. 25 y/o and 30 y/o
GFE out of this world. We had to extend time. I did everything I wanted to do. The 2nd one did NOt want to do anal and I did not push it. I was not sure my Dick could do it.
I paid $1000 and $1200. Got my ass eaten out. CIM. BBBJ and everything else.
I loved the band. The music and atomosphere was awesome.
Brazil is God's gift to men.[/QUOTE]Glad you made it to Gauguin (Scandallo lite) many of the Garotas worked scandallo day shift, some of the waiters are former scandallo garcom, the security guys are also former scandallo.
The bands do american rock & roll cover music I forgot which nights. Mon to Fri are solid , the weekend is fcvking low energy and sucks. All the favorite scandallo blondes aren't there on sat sun nights slow nights. so cheaper 500 brl deals can be had.
Sat night at scandallo is asian hunting night. Thats the term garotas use. Lot more cool asian dudes on satuday so more skinny ass pale garotas are asian hunting kkkk I think thats a FKK Shark term. Kkk... relax these are generalizations I don't want to re-ignite scandallo weekend debates again.
I like Gauguin then casarso or scandallo & casarao or Scandallo --> Love motel Lush for Friday, sat, sun. or Casarso --> Austaria love motel heated pool or Casarso --> Andar de Cima love motel with stripper pole & jacuzzi. Colonial is economical love motel option
Casarao will have more newbie fresh 19 year old & 20 year garotas off the bus from Minas Gerais (MG) they are at Casarao only for one week or two weeks .. when you find a newbie 19 year rimming garotas in casarao grab her ass fast. she will get scooped up. whatever you like other dudes like too! be bold in Casarao grab the young hot garota of choice, dont think she will be around later.. not in Casarao
Scandallo & Gauguin have more sharks, the garotas stick around in the club to continue their shift after your session.
you will see your beautiful Scandallo blonde DFK some excited guy when I just a few minutes ago, she did a CIM to completion, she swallowed full load of thick sperm ,my boys are desperately swimming around in her belly and she is doing cum burps in between drinks & laughing at the guy jokes. .. her wicked little tongue just did sloppy rimming pleasures for an entire hour. Welcome to scandallo where the illusion of pleasure (IoP) is fvcking strong
[QUOTE=Tochka;3086831]Kinda weird to beautiful blondes DFK some excited guy when I just did a CIM, she swallowed full load in her belly & did rimming pleasures for an hour. Kkk.[/QUOTE]Hey, it goes all ways. I lick a pretty blonde branca's booty hole, then kiss another pretty garota all in the mouth! This is why I regularly gargle with Listerine or something during any mongering trips to any country. My very first time to Brazil I didn't do that and was sick for a week upon my return home. No lie, I had to take a week off work just to recover from that very first wild, 10-day, porn star experience vacay in Rio way back when! I learned about doing the regular and frequent gargling with mouthwash for extra protection from the more seasoned mongers. Never been sick once since. So, Listerine anyone? More like you need another hepatitis shot bro LMAO!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086835]Hey, it goes all ways. I lick a pretty blonde branca's booty hole, then kiss another pretty garota all in the mouth! This is why I regularly gargle with Listerine or something during any mongering trips to any country. My very first time to Brazil I didn't do that and was sick for a week upon my return home. No lie, I had to take a week off work just to recover from that very first wild, 10-day, porn star experience vacay in Rio way back when! I learned about doing the regular and frequent gargling with mouthwash for extra protection from the more seasoned mongers. Never been sick once since. So, Listerine anyone? More like you need another hepatitis shot bro LMAO![/QUOTE]Great advice.
I got there at 9 AM; slow night.
Now understand what you all were saying about Friday night, Saturday, Sunday.
It got more crowded around 11 to midnight.
Alot older women. I Finally found nice looking blonde probably an 8 and fucked her in the ass for are $ 1700. She would not budge. She was a biomedical student.
Amazing body and ass. I'm getting spoiled now.
Thursday night (last night) Gauguin was awesome beautiful angels walking around.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086970]I Finally found nice looking blonde probably an 8 and fucked her in the ass for are $ 1700. She would not budge. She was a biomedical student. Amazing body and ass. I'm getting spoiled now.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you need to walk away from a good looking woman to establish boundaries. Set your parameters. Not only with her, but with other tutes there who she tells about what you paid. Let her know she isn't all that, and that you can find somebody else even hotter for less money. Remember. She needs that money more than you do. That's disposable income you are spending to bugger her. For her it's money needed for rent, food, tuition, transportation, and other life essentials. Besides, sometimes it just feels good to walk away from an attractive woman, proving to her that the big head is in complete control, not the little one. Lots of women admit to being attracted to men who can tell them "no" versus being willing to do anything to get the pussy. Well, us mongers are a different breed. We're not desperate like a regular guy trying to get laid, at least we shouldn't be.
We know there's plenty of more where that came from. Because money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac! We understand that, but we need to remember it too and use that reality to our advantage at all times. They've got the puss and ass, but we have the money. And it's [B]money[/B] that makes the world go around, not pussy! That means for me that at Scandallo, and given the current exchange rate, it's 1,500 reais [B]max[/B] for a top of the range girl. She can take it. Or she can stay broke. And some other pretty pussy will get that money instead. Truly her loss because you still got some pussy at the price you wanted to pay, while she lost that payday and got nothing. I think there was a solid chance that if you cordially walked away and saw her later in the night, she probably would have come down some. She was only 200 reais higher than 1,500, which an 8 [B]might[/B] deserve. Try cordially walking away more and coming back later in the night.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3086970]I got there at 9 AM; slow night.
Now understand what you all were saying about Friday night, Saturday, Sunday.
It got more crowded around 11 to midnight.
Alot older women. I Finally found nice looking blonde probably an 8 and fucked her in the ass for are $ 1700. She would not budge. She was a biomedical student.
Amazing body and ass. I'm getting spoiled now.
Thursday night (last night) Gauguin was awesome beautiful angels walking around.[/QUOTE]Yeah as I understand it the girls that work weekends are generally a completely different crowd than weekdays. Often part timers trying to make a big score or two so prices are very high.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086981]Sometimes you need to walk away from a good looking woman to establish boundaries. Set your parameters. Not only with her, but with other tutes there who she tells about what you paid. Let her know she isn't all that, and that you can find somebody else even hotter for less money. Remember. She needs that money more than you do. That's disposable income you are spending to bugger her. For her it's money needed for rent, food, tuition, transportation, and other life essentials. Besides, sometimes it just feels good to walk away from an attractive woman, proving to her that the big head is in complete control, not the little one. Lots of women admit to being attracted to men who can tell them "no" versus being willing to do anything to get the pussy. Well, us mongers are a different breed. We're not desperate like a regular guy trying to get laid, at least we shouldn't be.
We know there's plenty of more where that came from. Because money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac! We understand that, but we need to remember it too and use that reality to our advantage at all times. They've got the puss and ass, but we have the money. And it's [B]money[/B] that makes the world go around, not pussy! That means for me that at Scandallo, and given the current exchange rate, it's 1,500 reais [B]max[/B] for a top of the range girl. She can take it. Or she can stay broke. And some other pretty pussy will get that money instead. Truly her loss because you still got some pussy at the price you wanted to pay, while she lost that payday and got nothing. I think there was a solid chance that if you cordially walked away and saw her later in the night, she probably would have come down some. She was only 200 reais higher than 1,500, which an 8 [B]might[/B] deserve. Try cordially walking away more and coming back later in the night.[/QUOTE]Absolutely love this post.
This is well written sound advice and a reminder to all of us to stay in control of our own money, the market, the girl, and the game!
Money is king so stay in the driver's seat and distribute it wisely!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086981]Sometimes you need to walk away from a good looking woman to establish boundaries.........[/QUOTE]The older one gets the harder it is to walk away from a hot stunner. One begins to ration one's semen and, therefore, desires to deposit only in the orifices of the most beautiful babes. Its a throw of the dice and one hopes to get one's money's worth.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3087029]The older one gets the harder it is to walk away from a hot stunner. One begins to ration one's semen and, therefore, desires to deposit only in the orifices of the most beautiful babes. Its a throw of the dice and one hopes to get one's money's worth.[/QUOTE]Thank God I'm not in that place yet.
99 is a winner. It is consistently cheaper than uber with comparable service. It is the Brazil didi affiliate. I use mostly 99 and indrive. You can get indrive trips to GRU airport at less than half the price of uber.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3086573]How about 99?
Especially late night rides with valuable technology.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086981]Sometimes you need to walk away from a good looking woman to establish boundaries. Set your parameters. Not only with her, but with other tutes there who she tells about what you paid. .[/QUOTE]I think guys experienced in this hobby do exactly that. It took me a while to develop the habit of just telling them what I'll pay and walking away if they're not agreeable.
As far as her telling the other tutes what you paid, she may very well lie and tell them a higher number regardless.
[QUOTE=Combo;3087052]I think guys experienced in this hobby do exactly that. It took me a while to develop the habit of just telling them what I'll pay and walking away if they're not agreeable. As far as her telling the other tutes what you paid, she may very well lie and tell them a higher number regardless.[/QUOTE]I'm usually flexible when it comes to what I'm willing to pay. But, I always have my established maximum in mind, and of course no minimum haha! As far as lying goes, I think the girls are far more likely to lie when they accepted less in order to save face. But, if you paid at or around an informal "going rate" or higher, that's when I think they will be more inclined to tell a friend the truth. And you don't want a profile of a guy who pays above going rate all the time, because then that's what they will expect from you. You paid her that. My turn. I want the same amount!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086981] think there was a solid chance that if you cordially walked away and saw her later in the night, she probably would have come down some. She was only 200 reais higher than 1,500, which an 8 [B]might[/B] deserve. Try cordially walking away more and coming back later in the night.[/QUOTE]The only reason I was willing to pay are $1700 is because I fucked her in the ass good.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087073]The only reason I was willing to pay are $1700 is because I fucked her in the ass good.[/QUOTE]Well if you keep going to Brazil, you're going to get tired of paying that much real quick when you can hit it and quit it for several 100 less (in both reals and dollars), including in the "cuzinha". If you plan to return to Brazil again, you need to stop rationalizing and learn how to be a better negotiator. It's easy, and fun even if you treat it like a pleasant little game. And learn from those who have gone before you.
Senpai Cane.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3087074]Well if you keep going to Brazil, you're going to get tired of paying that much real quick when you can hit it and quit it for several 100 less (in both reals and dollars), including in the "cuzinha". If you plan to return to Brazil again, you need to stop rationalizing and learn how to be a better negotiator. It's easy, and fun even if you treat it like a pleasant little game. And learn from those who have gone before you.
Senpai Cane.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed dozens and dozens of times. And Senior Cane is correct.
Year & years ago. Many eons ago. Top dollar for A+ scandallo garota, models, absolute stunners was 1000 brl. 500 to 800 brl was for A- team. Shit I would grab three scandallo garotas at time for crazed infuzed orgy. Line them up, ass up for fotos. Then we all uber to Lush motel to party, smoke, drink & swim until noon next day.
Many garotas live in the hotel next scandallo , its up the hill, 30 sec walk.
I remember the months when scandallo garotas asking price bursted through the 1 mil brl an hour session, the months leading up to the first NFL sao paulo game and 2 mil brl ceiling.
The NFL first timers, mostly bros from philly made it rain on garotas, losing their minds. Later after they left I banged the same scandallo garotas in other venues Gauguin or Love motel for 800 brl all night or 500 brl an hour.
The pussy and IoP experience was the same.
The difference was the agreed price point changed dramatically or I would patiently wait until. They send the lonely heart emoji via insta or wassap.
I know garota need grana when they send the emoji. some went to europe,
spain, dubai..for big bucks.. sure as hell when back in brasil they still needed fast dinhero
I did not need to pay extraordinary amount for exact same scandallo service.
Heck for dudes into that fetish, brasilian triple anal porno queens available everyday for $230 brl an hour at a clinicas in moema. they are a featured on waassap
status plus a free video peak. The anal porno queen topic has been discussed at length here and its not my thing to watch skinny pale ass brasilian garotas insert three large black dildos in her cuzinhos. Or pretty loira garota,
wearing a dildo strap on , anal fuck the other blonde instagram model and each other.
As Mr E says dudes sometime watch way too. Much porno, ..
tochka says and in brasil you can give that fantasy a try kkkk.
Super sad if karen from prime is retiring. She was an OUTSTANDING kinky garota without limits , her and Nadjia.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3087081]This has been discussed dozens and dozens of times. And Senior Cane is correct.
Year & years ago. Many eons ago. Top dollar for A+ scandallo garota, models, absolute stunners was 1000 brl. 500 to 800 brl was for A- team. Shit I would grab three scandallo garotas at time for crazed infuzed orgy. Line them up, ass up for fotos. Then we all uber to Lush motel to party, smoke, drink & swim until noon next day.
Many garotas live in the hotel next scandallo , its up the hill, 30 sec walk.
I remember the months when scandallo garotas asking price bursted through the 1 mil brl an hour session, the months leading up to the first NFL sao paulo game and 2 mil brl ceiling.
The NFL first timers, mostly bros from philly made it rain on garotas, losing their minds. Later after they left I banged the same scandallo garotas in other venues Gauguin or Love motel for 800 brl all night or 500 brl an hour.
The pussy and IoP experience was the same.
The difference was the agreed price point changed dramatically or I would patiently wait until. They send the lonely heart emoji via insta or wassap.
I know garota need grana when they send the emoji. some went to europe,
spain, dubai..for big bucks.. sure as hell when back in brasil they still needed fast dinhero
I did not need to pay extraordinary amount for exact same scandallo service.
Heck for dudes into that fetish, brasilian triple anal porno queens available everyday for $230 brl an hour at a clinicas in moema. they are a featured on waassap
status plus a free video peak. The anal porno queen topic has been discussed at length here and its not my thing to watch skinny pale ass brasilian garotas insert three large black dildos in her cuzinhos. Or pretty loira garota,
wearing a dildo strap on , anal fuck the other blonde instagram model and each other.
As Mr E says dudes sometime watch way too. Much porno, ..
tochka says and in brasil you can give that fantasy a try kkkk.
Super sad if karen from prime is retiring. She was an OUTSTANDING kinky garota without limits , her and Nadjia.[/QUOTE]I think part of the problem is that these NFL fans come from a non negotiating culture. Its not common to negotiate prices in the USA, and it feels uncomfortable to many. On the opposite end of the spectrum, negotiations are expected in Chinese culture. A chinese guy will negotatiate till the last centavo.
I went there at 11 PM stayed till midnight. It was dead.
What's the best option for Sunday night? Thinking about Scandallo?? Anybody has been to Scandallo Sunday night?
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087154]I went there at 11 PM stayed till midnight. It was dead.
What's the best option for Sunday night? Thinking about Scandallo?? Anybody has been to Scandallo Sunday night?[/QUOTE]I noticed many clubs on Fri-Sat were actually slower. I think girls might take that night off to go to regular clubs and maybe same with customers. Tues-Thurs were the best nights at Scandallo if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087154]I went there at 11 PM stayed till midnight. It was dead.
What's the best option for Sunday night? Thinking about Scandallo?? Anybody has been to Scandallo Sunday night?[/QUOTE]In my experience, weekends suck. Wednesdays and Thursdays tend to be the best. The problem with weekends is that the Mary men are with their families and the business men are leaving town to go back to wherever it is that they came from. Everywhere I've been it gets progressively worse from Friday to Saturday and Sunday is the absolute worst. I'm speaking generally and not specifically to your question but I'd be willing to bet their ranch that I'm right.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3086498]Goody, goody! Eagerly looking forward to it. With my perverted self! Here's another tip for anyone writing reports. Don't write the initial piece here on the site itself. Do it in Word or somewhere else, then cut and paste. That way, if something goes wrong with the site (especially in recent times), then you won't lose all your work here and have to start over![/QUOTE]Haha! This has happened to all of us here. You're sitting there saying to yourself WTF just happened to my monger opus.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087154]I went there at 11 PM stayed till midnight. It was dead.
What's the best option for Sunday night? Thinking about Scandallo?? Anybody has been to Scandallo Sunday night?[/QUOTE]Casarao is still great on Sunday. Prob because it's one of the only places open. Of course it doesn't start till late. Scan has traditionally been closed Sunday. But started opening maybe 1-2 months ago. I haven't tried yet but will soon and will report back.
Your best play usually is to get girls numbers week before and make a date for Sunday.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3087198]Casarao is still great on Sunday. Prob because it's one of the only places open. Of course it doesn't start till late. Scan has traditionally been closed Sunday. But started opening maybe 1-2 months ago. I haven't tried yet but will soon and will report back. Your best play usually is to get girls numbers week before and make a date for Sunday.[/QUOTE]Curious to know what Scandallo is like on a Sunday too. Although, occasionally I like to take a break every now and then. Do something different. Enjoy a nice meal out. Take a leisurely walk. Read an interesting book. Do any of you guys do that? Or are you all constantly trying to fuck every single day and night LOL! I can understand the motivation to do that on relatively short trips, but I have not stayed in Brazil for less than at least 3 weeks over the last many years that I have gone. It will be 4 weeks coming up. I like to take a break in there every now and then, and Sundays are a prime time to do so in any destination. I like hanging out on Avenida Paulista on Sundays sometimes.
I got there around 11 PM. Not all the sections are open. The large outdoor patio in not open.
There were about 30 girls. Few are gorgeous. Nothing like Tuesday, Wed, Thursday.
I got a beautiful natural girl. Didn't do anal which is fine. Paid her are $1500. She had a such a beautiful ass and ass hole. Did everything except anal. Which is fine by me. I think I got the anal thing out of my system. May be; if I pushed her I think she would have done it. I just didn't feel like it.
She let me do a bunch of pictures and videos. She was so pretty. By then end she wanted to stick my thumb up her ass. We had a great GFE session.
I still love the challenge of anal and working a girl through it.
I met a girl who was a dermatologist but didn't fuck her. Tall, looked like a college professor. She said she need the money. Was willing to do anal.
Some girls wanted are $2000; and I told them that was out of my budget. They weren't even a 9 or a 10.
So long Brazil. I don't know when I will be back. I'm going to have a hard time dealing with American women now.
Brazilian women are God's gift to men. I can see easily how somebody can fall for them.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087269]I got a beautiful natural girl. Didn't do anal which is fine. Paid her are $1500. She had a such a beautiful ass and ass hole. Did everything except anal. Which is fine by me. I think I got the anal thing out of my system. May be; if I pushed her I think she would have done it. I just didn't feel like it. I still love the challenge of anal and working a girl through it. I met a girl who was a dermatologist but didn't fuck her. Tall, looked like a college professor. She said she need the money. Was willing to do anal. So long Brazil. I don't know when I will be back. Brazilian women are God's gift to men. I can see easily how somebody can fall for them.[/QUOTE]Brazil is an anal connoisseur's paradise on earth. Been times I fucked so many pretty Brasilieras in the ass that upon my departure, I didn't want to see another girl's butt hole for at least 4 months! Well, let's make that three. LOLOLOL!
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087269]I got there around 11 PM. Not all the sections are open. The large outdoor patio in not open.
There were about 30 girls. Few are gorgeous. Nothing like Tuesday, Wed, Thursday.[/QUOTE]Great report. Thank you.
Two questions, how is Scandallo on Saturday's night? And do you remember the name of the girl?
[QUOTE=IsaBahn;3087297]How is Scandallo on Saturday's night?[/QUOTE]A lot of people will tell you Friday and Saturday nights are no good, but I have been on those nights and had a fabulous time. In fact, when I first started going it was always on the weekends, and I was the first one here to report on how great the club was. That reporting was based on weekend visits. Last time down, I saw no difference at all between mid-week (Thursday) versus the weekend. I also wonder if the time of the year has anything to do with it, with it being slower during their winters, a time when I avoid Brazil?
[QUOTE=IsaBahn;3087297]Great report. Thank you.
Two questions, how is Scandallo on Saturday's night? And do you remember the name of the girl?[/QUOTE]I didn't go to Scandallo on Saturday. Her name was Naiaira, curley hair, beautiful brown skin.
How do you guys go to these SP boates alone?
I suck at social skills. And I dunno what to do.
They always come and talk to me, but I don't want to waste time with those I don't find attractive. With the ones I want to fuck, we usually settle in 5 minutes then I take her to room.
I guess I dunno how to flirt for 1 hour before take them to the room. Also, after sex, do you find someone new? Please share some tips.
[QUOTE=Greenburger;3087420]How do you guys go to these SP boates alone?
I suck at social skills. And I dunno what to do.
They always come and talk to me, but I don't want to waste time with those I don't find attractive. With the ones I want to fuck, we usually settle in 5 minutes then I take her to room.
I guess I dunno how to flirt for 1 hour before take them to the room. Also, after sex, do you find someone new? Please share some tips.[/QUOTE]I'm super social so can't quite put myself in your shoes but here are some thoughts:
Yes don't waste time with girls your not attracted to. Best approach is to say "thank you but I don't want any company right now. I am just relaxing. ".
As far as flirting with a girl you like think of some easy dinner table discussion. Do you live in SP? No? Where are you from. How often do you come down? What's your fave thing to do when your not working? The usual small talk.
After you fuck this he girl will go to the back on the ground floor and I go back to the club. Often she's bagged her fish and heads home. But I may see her again the club later. But generally yeah you find a new girl. Another great play is to bounce to Casarao late night after your first Scan girl.
[QUOTE=Greenburger;3087420]How do you guys go to these SP boates alone? I suck at social skills. And I dunno what to do. They always come and talk to me, but I don't want to waste time with those I don't find attractive. With the ones I want to fuck, we usually settle in 5 minutes then I take her to room. I guess I dunno how to flirt for 1 hour before take them to the room. Also, after sex, do you find someone new? Please share some tips.[/QUOTE]I like being a preying "lone wolf" in the "hen house". An easy way to strike up a conversation with someone you're interested in is to offer her a drink. You've got that consumable amount you committed to. Spend some on a girl. Also, if I have a bit of a connection with girl I fucked, I might invite her to have dinner with me in the restaurant afterwards. Be nice. Be generous. After all, she just let you fuck her in all three holes. And if you get along well enough, you may have found someone you want to meet outside the club. Use your consumable purchase strategically. If you might like somebody to hang with, you can put a post in the "Travel Announcements Only" thread including your travel dates, and another ISGer who's in town at the same time might be interested in meeting for a drink and hitting some new places with you to monger. Happens all the time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3087495]I'm super social so can't quite put myself in your shoes but here are some thoughts:
Yes don't waste time with girls your not attracted to. Best approach is to say "thank you but I don't want any company right now. I am just relaxing. ".
As far as flirting with a girl you like think of some easy dinner table discussion. Do you live in SP? No? Where are you from. How often do you come down? What's your fave thing to do when your not working? The usual small talk.
After you fuck this he girl will go to the back on the ground floor and I go back to the club. Often she's bagged her fish and heads home. But I may see her again the club later. But generally yeah you find a new girl. Another great play is to bounce to Casarao late night after your first Scan girl.[/QUOTE]I tell them I'm so sorry I was waiting for some one. May be later.
I also told a few fore example: You are so beautiful but I'm looking for a blonde or brunnette depending on what they are.
Great Trip. I like to go ago probably in a year.
I never made it to Casarao. I just could not stay awake after 12 or 1 AM. Could not go from Scandallo to Casarao. Just worn out.
Its amazing I did I think 8 girls and all sessions were very good or Great. I did not have one bad session. I did all the anal I wanted.
Do you all think I missed out not going to Casarao? Are the girls prettier at Casarao? Just curious. I almost went Sunday night but I was exhausted.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087534]Great Trip. I like to go ago probably in a year. I never made it to Casarao. I just could not stay awake after 12 or 1 AM. Could not go from Scandallo to Casarao. Just worn out. Its amazing I did I think 8 girls and all sessions were very good or Great. I did not have one bad session. I did all the anal I wanted. Do you all think I missed out not going to Casarao? Are the girls prettier at Casarao? Just curious. I almost went Sunday night but I was exhausted.[/QUOTE]You missed out by not going to Casarao. Not because the girls are necessarily prettier (I find the Casarao optics range to be wider from high to low), but because it's a more down-to-earth, local joint with plenty of good talent, a lot which can be had for half the price of Scandallo or less. Casarao has really upped its game!
A question to anyone who's been to Scandallo during F1 week. Is it true the club is way more packed than usual? And the prices overall are higher? Is it like double what you would normally pay or what? Thank you!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3087539]You missed out by not going to Casarao. Not because the girls are necessarily prettier (I find the Casarao optics range to be wider from high to low), but because it's a more down-to-earth, local joint with plenty of good talent, a lot which can be had for half the price of Scandallo or less. Casarao has really upped its game![/QUOTE]I really was just looking for the nicest looking girls with GFE & Anal. (8 to 10). I thought Scandallo & Gauguin on Tue / Wed / Thursday was awesome. Top girls and great atmosphere. Great band and music. For a 1 week trip the price was fine since I'm not going to be going there frequently.
The only problem was Friday / Saturday / Sunday but still manage fine atleast 1 great gem.
Hi,
I will be in Sao Paulo for just one night passing by, on Saturday night. Which I understands unfortunately that it's not the best night to go. I have been once to Sao Paulo before, never been to Casarao but I have been to Scandallo. I eventually did not take any girl from Scandallo to my hotel, but I got a MILF to one of the rooms there. Not my best choice. I remember it was expensive though in 2024.
I also do remember the vast amount of girls in Scandallo and the attention I was getting and on hindsight I should have taken a girl to my hotel from Scandallo. Finding a good looking young branca. But I thought the prices were too high.
My question: what would you recommend? - going to Casarao or Scandallo for this one night that I have. Just accepting paying the over price for the experience in Scandallo or go to Casarao because it's Saturday's night anyway?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=IsaBahn;3087818]My question: what would you recommend? - going to Casarao or Scandallo for this one night that I have. Just accepting paying the over price for the experience in Scandallo or go to Casarao because it's Saturday's night anyway?[/QUOTE]No need to choose. Go to Scandallo first, then hit Casarao late. It doesn't have to be a mutually exclusive choice!
Dear esteemed fellow mongers, do any of you know what's the current situation with the hobby in Argentina?
I'm going on a short trip to BsAs and want to know if there's any fun to be had. But the Argentina forum is down.
[QUOTE=FRobertson;3087847]Dear esteemed fellow mongers, do any of you know what's the current situation with the hobby in Argentina?
I'm going on a short trip to B and want to know if there's any fun to be had. But the Argentina forum is down.[/QUOTE]A buddy and I will also be headed to Buenos Aires too in December before continuing to Rio and Sao Paolo, so also looking for info on if there still are any clubs or daytime casas.
Found this site which looks interesting [URL]argxp.com[/URL] with escort and massage girls from pricepoints from $900 usd to $30 usd.
I personally prefer the onsite face to face mongering as opposed to online ads that are photoshopped but that may be the only scene in BA, not sure.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3087852]A buddy and I will also be headed to Buenos Aires too in December before continuing to Rio and Sao Paolo, so also looking for info on if there still are any clubs or daytime casas.
Found this site which looks interesting [URL]argxp.com[/URL] with escort and massage girls from pricepoints from $900 usd to $30 usd.
I personally prefer the onsite face to face mongering as opposed to online ads that are photoshopped but that may be the only scene in BA, not sure.[/QUOTE]Yes! The clinica concept is the best.
Thank you for the link, I'll check it out. Looks like a good starting point.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3087852]A buddy and I will also be headed to Buenos Aires too in December before continuing to Rio and Sao Paolo, so also looking for info on if there still are any clubs or daytime casas.
Found this site which looks interesting [URL]argxp.com[/URL] with escort and massage girls from pricepoints from $900 usd to $30 usd.
I personally prefer the onsite face to face mongering as opposed to online ads that are photoshopped but that may be the only scene in BA, not sure.[/QUOTE]You might already be aware that the mongering scene is far. Far more developed and convenient in Sao Paulo and Rio than Buenos Aires. This is acutely true for face to face intro / selection venues whether it be a clinicas (SP), termas and prives (RJ) and boates (hooker night clubs in both SP and RJ but far superior in SP).
Buenos Aires will require more time and energy for less certain sexual experiences. Sao Paulo is the best of them all for mongering, but Rio has a good sex scene with excellent tourist activities including urban beaches. SP and BA are okay for tourism with BA being the more beautiful city.
If you still have flexibility with your schedule, plan your days in each city accordingly.
Right now the girls would be rolling in.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3087841]No need to choose. Go to Scandallo first, then hit Casarao late. It doesn't have to be a mutually exclusive choice![/QUOTE]Agreed. Especially since Casarao doesn't get going until quite late. If you have time earlier in the evening, go to Scandallo first, use your consumable for a nice dinner and mingle with the women. Go before 7:00 for lower admission charge. No reason to pay more than 1200 R for a garota there. After a few hours, head to Casarao and party all night. If I had just one night in SP, this is how I would spend it.
FWIW the OP is right. Saturday is typically not the greatest night. But it's still highly likely he has a great night with this plan.
[QUOTE=Combo;3087931]Agreed. Especially since Casarao doesn't get going until quite late. If you have time earlier in the evening, go to Scandallo first, use your consumable for a nice dinner and mingle with the women. Go before 7:00 for lower admission charge. No reason to pay more than 1200 R for a garota there. After a few hours, head to Casarao and party all night. If I had just one night in SP, this is how I would spend it.
FWIW the OP is right. Saturday is typically not the greatest night. But it's still highly likely he has a great night with this plan.[/QUOTE]At Scandallo are $1500 has become the standard it seems. Some of the women start with $are 2000 and freaking sit around all night.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087939]At Scandallo are $1500 has become the standard it seems. Some of the women start with $are 2000 and freaking sit around all night.[/QUOTE]That's the problem with throwing money at these girls. Once she's spoiled, she won't accept anything less. So she won't be getting any money because we won't be paying that kind of cash, we won't be getting the pussy because she is too expensive for us, and the guy who threw his money around is long gone.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3087939]At Scandallo are $1500 has become the standard it seems. Some of the women start with $are 2000 and freaking sit around all night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Combo;3087931] No reason to pay more than 1200 R for a garota there. After a few hours, head to Casarao and party all night. If I had just one night in SP, this is how I would spend it.[/QUOTE]Agreed personally I say $1000 R. I guess $800 R in Scandallo is out of the question by prices mongers are paying?
[QUOTE=Azzazelo;3086710]Fatal Model.
After waking up in the afternoon, I decided to try [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL]
Best decision I made on the trip.[/QUOTE]Fatal Model is the best escort site in Brazil. It's like a Amazon start up with girl ID and age verification, full body 360 degree video, girl facial verification and AI / filter blockage, upfront pricing of all service, client reviews and ability to make lists and filters. They out new features every month. Some features require a subscription but IMHO worth it. On the girl "shop" side, it engages the girls with how to guides, metrics, point scoring / buying, virtual offering and an only fans type site. Maybe girls charge a premium, huge range 200 to 2000 per hour. Personally 500-600 is the sweet spot and I would only pay 1000 or more for a 9+ girl. I tried a bunch of girls and all have been amazing, many have other civilian jobs or students. If it wasn't for the all the in person boate and clinicas, one can use this site and make a worth while trip.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;3087978]Agreed personally I say $1000 R. I guess $800 R in Scandallo is out of the question by prices mongers are paying?[/QUOTE]It would be challenging to get a hot Scandallo girl for 1,000 (can be done though) and almost impossible for 800 (may as well go to Gauguin). My current target at Scandallo is 1,200. For those asking for more than 1,500? Let them sit there all night then! The craziest quote I ever got was 3,000 reais (no anal, no CIM, couldn't eat her out)! You know where that went right? Saw other guys chatting her up, but her greedy ass didn't secure a deal all night! Probably didn't really need the money. Or, maybe she was just plain arrogant and dumb asking for twice what most of the other girls were asking. And she wasn't even all that hot. Fucked much hotter than her for way less. Some people man. I'm sure I will never see her stupid ass at Scandallo again. Nobody is going to pay her 3,000 reais for a session with a limited menu to boot! Who does she think she is anyway, Sydney Sweeney?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3087995]......The craziest quote I ever got was 3,000 reais (no anal, no CIM, couldn't eat her out)! ......[/QUOTE]Wow, you did the impossible. You found a Brazilian woman who does not want to be eaten out.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3088045]Wow, you did the impossible. You found a Brazilian woman who does not want to be eaten out.[/QUOTE]She actually saw me later and made a counteroffer. I think it was like, "OK 2,500 and you can eat me out". My response? No deal! I didn't even counter her counter. When you're that far apart on the menu and price, it's usually best to just keep it moving. Too many other pretty chicks willing to be far more reasonable and accommodating to a monger's wishes and needs.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3088045]Wow, you did the impossible. You found a Brazilian woman who does not want to be eaten out.[/QUOTE]I ate all the girls out. Their pussy was amazing and they truely looked like they enjoyed it. I reall miss it. Their pussy, Their ass, their body; silky smooth.
Secrets Motel.
Location: are. Sebastopol, 47 – Vila Inglesa, São Paulo – SP, 04653-000 Website: [URL]https://www.motelsecrets.com.br[/URL] .
Suite: Secret's Master, Best for threesomes on a budget.
Secrets Motel is a budget friendly option in São Paulo for those planning a threesome at Secret motels.
From Moema, the Uber ride was under 30 minutes, depending on traffic.
I stayed in the Secret's Master suite, which offers a good range of amenities for the price. Features include a private garage, spa hot tub, double shower, sauna, air conditioning, minibar, erotic TV channels, Wi-Fi.
One of the biggest advantages is the price. The listed daytime rate for six hours was are $349, making this an attractive option for anyone looking to have fun without spending a fortune. Shorter at are $269 brl during the daytime and are $295 brl after 6 pm, the overnight option from are $375 brl.
I am comparing to Lush, Crush and more expensive move motels.
My bill included the six-hour suite charge of are $349, along with food and drinks. .
For a threesome, the suite's range of facilities and relatively economical base rate make Secrets Motel worth considering.
For guys like me that do not bring garotas back to airbnb or hotel, love motels are excellent option.
For dudes ordering garotas on fatamodel to your hotel or airbnb rio bob advise is spot on. Use that to avoid being trapped in uncomfortable situation.
Do both, Saturdays are slow but still good at Scandallo. I noticed there are a lot of asian guys in Sat's in Scandallo. I would do 9 pm-12 am there an probably pick a girl. And based on your appetite go to Casarao from there where midnight is the time it starts picking up. That way you cover both and maximize your single night stay.
[QUOTE=IsaBahn;3087818]Hi,
I will be in Sao Paulo for just one night passing by, on Saturday night. Which I understands unfortunately that it's not the best night to go. I have been once to Sao Paulo before, never been to Casarao but I have been to Scandallo. I eventually did not take any girl from Scandallo to my hotel, but I got a MILF to one of the rooms there. Not my best choice. I remember it was expensive though in 2024.
I also do remember the vast amount of girls in Scandallo and the attention I was getting and on hindsight I should have taken a girl to my hotel from Scandallo. Finding a good looking young branca. But I thought the prices were too high.
My question: what would you recommend? - going to Casarao or Scandallo for this one night that I have. Just accepting paying the over price for the experience in Scandallo or go to Casarao because it's Saturday's night anyway?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3087852]A buddy and I will also be headed to Buenos Aires too in December before continuing to Rio and Sao Paolo, so also looking for info on if there still are any clubs or daytime casas.
Found this site which looks interesting [URL]argxp.com[/URL] with escort and massage girls from pricepoints from $900 usd to $30 usd.
I personally prefer the onsite face to face mongering as opposed to online ads that are photoshopped but that may be the only scene in BA, not sure.[/QUOTE]Hi pals, here the hiddeneye. Long time I didn't access the forum.
In Buenos Aires, you have a few options, not so many as Brazil unfortunately.
Let's start at Puerto Madero spots, they are the place to go. I went to Chana Club last year and picked a nice petite who asked US $300. Closed the deal at US $250. Her beauty worth it, maybe a 7-8, nice curved solid body, very fashion style, but she was almost a dead fish on the bed. The entrance fee was US $50, so the adventure total was around US $500 because drinks were very expensive. I took her to my airbnb. How the airbnbs run in Argentina deserve a special topic on this forum.
You will find from 6's to stunners. I couldn't talk to stunners because they were mostly with guys, two or three deserved a return to the place. The good thing is Puerto Madero is a safe place, so you can go to the restaurants for early scouting. Chana action starts at midnight as every club in Argentina. I got there only because a good friend of mine, photographer, told me. The places that used to run in the early 2000's in Recoleta are closed. So you should do your research if Chana girls have moved.
Another argie friend drove in the Congreso area where there were dozens of street walkers, but not my kind of adventure. It was only a fun Zoo to see.
Attached screnshots from my cellphone from Chana. As you may recall, all my reports are backed with pictures. I only hope this post won't get deleted.
In Buenos Aires, you have a few options, not so many as Brazil unfortunately.
Thank you for the info on Chana Club my friend. We will look into it. Would be cool to find an Argentinian girl that looks like Messi's wife Antonela Rocuzzo during our visit to BA before we continue on to Rio and Sao Paolo for a much longer intended stay of 3 weeks where we know we will be spoiled by a much wider array of diverse and beautiful companion options.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088051]She actually saw me later and made a counteroffer. I think it was like, "OK 2,500 and you can eat me out". My response? No deal! I didn't even counter her counter. When you're that far apart on the menu and price, it's usually best to just keep it moving. Too many other pretty chicks willing to be far more reasonable and accommodating to a monger's wishes and needs.[/QUOTE]If she was the hottest babe in the place I would certainly have partaken. You aren't getting any younger. I would have munched on that muffin to my heart's delight.
Thinking of going to Sao Paulo but not sure if I want to be there during F1. Does F1 make things crap in Sao Paulo for our hobby? Should I look to go someplace else for the F1 weekend?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088191]Thinking of going to Sao Paulo but not sure if I want to be there during F1. Does F1 make things crap in Sao Paulo for our hobby? Should I look to go someplace else for the F1 weekend?[/QUOTE]My guess is things would be really good and really expensive!
I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight. Don't be afraid to negotiate and temporarily walk away, when they see you talking to other girls they will bring their price down and their services up. Most girls will do BBBJ, but always verify. Out of the 70 girls I've had, I have paid 1000 are for 1 hour for the majority of them. Record low price I got was 500 are for an hour. Second record, threesome with two 18 year olds where I paid them 600 are each. There is only 5 girls where I had to pay 1500, and even those girls I could've got lower but I made bad decisions while drunk. I have had girls for 700 r, 800 r, and 900 r too. One girl told me 3000 r and then came down to 1000 are later, but I didn't even fuck her because I found her initial price absolutely disrespectful and delusional LOL. One of my friends that's lived here 7 years takes almost all girls for 800 are for an hour. I have another friend that takes many girls for 400 are for 30 minutes. At Gaugin, the price should be lower, I've paid 600 are to 900 are for an hour there, avg 800. My other friend pays 500 to 800 are. For thirty minutes it should be 300 r to 500 r. At Casarao, it should be around 300/400 for 30 min and 400/500 for an hour. Bomboa 600 to 800 r. Stop overpaying.
I forgot to mention with my wise account and Schwab debit I did NOT need any cash. At the end of trip I used my are $2000 to buy gifts.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088191]Thinking of going to Sao Paulo but not sure if I want to be there during F1. Does F1 make things crap in Sao Paulo for our hobby? Should I look to go someplace else for the F1 weekend?[/QUOTE]F1 Grand Prix Week Insights (Comparison with NFL Week.
Hotel & Airbnb Pricing: The biggest factor during F1 week in So Paulo is the steep price jump for accommodation across the board. Book well in advance if you plan to attend.
Track Experience Standard seating at the Autdromo de Interlagos leaves a lot to be desired. If it fits your budget, go for the VIP suites or Camarote for actual comfort. For guys arriving a month or two early or staying a few months past race weekend, keep an eye out for open track days events. I got to drive a porsche car around the track, side tracks had drift cars. Riding a around the official F1 circuit was fucking great.
The Venue Scene: So Paulo.
Scandallo: Heavily advertises leading up to F1 week. A massive influx of new Brazilian garotas flows into town, many looking to secure promo / model work at Interlagos as grid / car girls.
Despite the hype, asking prices at Scandallo didn't see a sky-high jump during F1 week in my opinion just a significantly higher volume of, high-tier talent.
Expect a noticeably busier floor with a heavy presence of foreign guys and visitors from across Latin America.
Casaro: Similar scene with plenty of new faces arriving for the event. You will spot a lot of show-off track / pit guys wearing their team jackets and crew tees inside.
I snagged one to look like crew kkkk.
Gauguin: Also draws a heavy crowd during race week, packed with guys visiting for the event.
F1 Week vs. NFL Week.
Unlike F1 weekwhere prices stayed relatively grounded despite the higher talent volumeNFL week in So Paulo was a completely different story.
Asking Prices during NFL: Quotes were hitting absurd levels of are $ 2. 000 brl $ 3. 000 brl per session. Insane damage to the wallet, though catching the NFL games on the large screens at Scandallo was fun. i want Superbowl on large screen at scandallo while three hot garotas and i are going at in the boate.. kkk
Quick Note on Rio (Monte Carlo / Termas).
For anyone making a side trip to Rio de Janeiro around these major event weeks, the termas get slammed during NFL week. Monte Carlo alone had over a hundred guys running sessions, so expect more dudes because Termas are smaller venues..
Use Wise connected to your US account. its a game changer to pay in Pix... no need to seek out ATM at Casarao at 0200am. pay in Pix in grab those two 19 year old and party on.
i know its hard for bros, amigos & weekend warriors visiting scandallo first time to pay reasonable prices. the same scandallo garotas are available for 900 to 1m brl hour or 1200 brl all night to next day.
Casarao i pay 500 brl hour not 30 min is very doable, Gauguin garota 500 to 800 brl is available everynight.
speaking brasilian helps but having time to walk away and hit her up on a slow day for less is a solid move. dont worry if you overpay a few times, forb a sexy hot brasilisn garota pulling on your johnson, willing to do every porno fantasy you imagined is HARD to ignore...just try learn and trend lower .
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 for one hour.[/QUOTE]How often are Scandallo girls accepting that amount with anal included? I would imagine that many would like a little something extra to take it in the ass. Last time down, I tried to keep it at 1,200. What really pisses me off is guys with no negotiation skills whatsoever going to a place like Gauguin and paying Scandallo prices! Totally unnecessary and ruins the market differentiation between clubs.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight. Don't be afraid to negotiate and temporarily walk away, when they see you talking to other girls they will bring their price down and their services up. Most girls will do BBBJ, but always verify. Out of the 70 girls I've had, I have paid 1000 are for 1 hour for the majority of them. Record low price I got was 500 are for an hour. Second record, threesome with two 18 year olds where I paid them 600 are each. There is only 5 girls where I had to pay 1500, and even those girls I could've got lower but I made bad decisions while drunk. I have had girls for 700 r, 800 r, and 900 r too. One girl told me 3000 r and then came down to 1000 are later, but I didn't even fuck her because I found her initial price absolutely disrespectful and delusional LOL. One of my friends that's lived here 7 years takes almost all girls for 800 are for an hour. I have another friend that takes many girls for 400 are for 30 minutes. At Gaugin, the price should be lower, I've paid 600 are to 900 are for an hour there, avg 800. My other friend pays 500 to 800 are. For thirty minutes it should be 300 r to 500 r. At Casarao, it should be around 300/400 for 30 min and 400/500 for an hour. Bomboa 600 to 800 r. Stop overpaying.[/QUOTE]You are the luckiest man! Do you have some pictures to share with us. It will excite some of us who have only been once*.
Is Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday are so slow.
You just have to make dates and my situation doesn't work with that.
I just have a window between 8 PM to 2 AM each night.
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3088186]In Buenos Aires, you have a few options, not so many as Brazil unfortunately.
Thank you for the info on Chana Club my friend. We will look into it. Would be cool to find an Argentinian girl that looks like Messi's wife Antonela Rocuzzo during our visit to BA before we continue on to Rio and Sao Paolo for a much longer intended stay of 3 weeks where we know we will be spoiled by a much wider array of diverse and beautiful companion options.[/QUOTE]Great, write an update report of your visit. There were stunners I would like to taste the next visit.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight. Don't be afraid to negotiate and temporarily walk away, when they see you talking to other girls they will bring their price down and their services up. Most girls will do BBBJ, but always verify. Out of the 70 girls I've had, I have paid 1000 are for 1 hour for the majority of them. Record low price I got was 500 are for an hour. Second record, threesome with two 18 year olds where I paid them 600 are each. There is only 5 girls where I had to pay 1500, and even those girls I could've got lower but I made bad decisions while drunk. I have had girls for 700 r, 800 r, and 900 r too. One girl told me 3000 r and then came down to 1000 are later, but I didn't even fuck her because I found her initial price absolutely disrespectful and delusional LOL. One of my friends that's lived here 7 years takes almost all girls for 800 are for an hour. I have another friend that takes many girls for 400 are for 30 minutes. At Gaugin, the price should be lower, I've paid 600 are to 900 are for an hour there, avg 800. My other friend pays 500 to 800 are. For thirty minutes it should be 300 r to 500 r. At Casarao, it should be around 300/400 for 30 min and 400/500 for an hour. Bomboa 600 to 800 r. Stop overpaying.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight. Don't be afraid to negotiate and temporarily walk away, when they see you talking to other girls they will bring their price down and their services up. Most girls will do BBBJ, but always verify. Out of the 70 girls I've had, I have paid 1000 are for 1 hour for the majority of them. Record low price I got was 500 are for an hour. Second record, threesome with two 18 year olds where I paid them 600 are each. There is only 5 girls where I had to pay 1500, and even those girls I could've got lower but I made bad decisions while drunk. I have had girls for 700 r, 800 r, and 900 r too. One girl told me 3000 r and then came down to 1000 are later, but I didn't even fuck her because I found her initial price absolutely disrespectful and delusional LOL. One of my friends that's lived here 7 years takes almost all girls for 800 are for an hour..[/QUOTE]Thank you for the direct pricing and explanation. I now knows exactly what to expect. I will take your advise and I will not over pay.
[QUOTE=AllAboutTer;3088110]Do both, Saturdays are slow but still good at Scandallo. I noticed there are a lot of asian guys in Sat's in Scandallo. I would do 9 pm-12 am there an probably pick a girl. And based on your appetite go to Casarao from there where midnight is the time it starts picking up. That way you cover both and maximize your single night stay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips.
I am now planning to do:
1. Start at Banana Cafe. Where I had quite good luck on my last trip to Sao Paulo in 2024.
2. Go to Scandallo.
3. Head to Casarao at midnight.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight. Don't be afraid to negotiate and temporarily walk away, when they see you talking to other girls they will bring their price down and their services up. Most girls will do BBBJ, but always verify. Out of the 70 girls I've had, I have paid 1000 are for 1 hour for the majority of them. Record low price I got was 500 are for an hour. Second record, threesome with two 18 year olds where I paid them 600 are each. There is only 5 girls where I had to pay 1500, and even those girls I could've got lower but I made bad decisions while drunk. I have had girls for 700 r, 800 r, and 900 r too. One girl told me 3000 r and then came down to 1000 are later, but I didn't even fuck her because I found her initial price absolutely disrespectful and delusional LOL. One of my friends that's lived here 7 years takes almost all girls for 800 are for an hour. I have another friend that takes many girls for 400 are for 30 minutes. At Gaugin, the price should be lower, I've paid 600 are to 900 are for an hour there, avg 800. My other friend pays 500 to 800 are. For thirty minutes it should be 300 r to 500 r. At Casarao, it should be around 300/400 for 30 min and 400/500 for an hour. Bomboa 600 to 800 r. Stop overpaying.[/QUOTE]Amen! Thanks for the great report regarding this.
One question what do you say to them / how do you negotiate to get them under 1 k reais. I even think 1 k is on the expensive side when you have to pay Another 50 bucks to rent the room as well.
I've been there ones and found Scandallo to be very expensive. But a really nice place though.
Sick and Tired of gringos overpaying! Found casarao to be of best value.
Coming back in a couple of months and will visit Gaugin, Scandallo and casarao. And will keep this post with me.
I don't remember what I paid in Scandallo the last time butnI think it was 1000 / remember I found it odd that girls seemed spoiled and asked for 1500-2000 and many of them refused to lower their prices (2000 is a lot of money.
Next time I will for sure never pay mil again.
Bruna. It had been two years since last time. I kept thinking about her.
Inded, after a long time without trips to São Paulo, I reconnected with the delightful Bruna. Passionate sex and, as always, the best blowjob in years; she asked me to go down on her and fuck her hard, and we finally came together. Cannot be recommended strongly enough.
Note: she only works on saturdays and it is advisable to book her ahead of time.
The clinica is at 2189 avenida Ceci. I always include it in my quests, along with Prime and Miruna in Moema.
Now that motivates the living PISS out of Vagabundo!
I love love Like fucking Amo Clinica Ceci!
That is so in the vagabundo zone, I can't even bend a woman over and plough her pussy!
Miruna, check!
Then near the SP metro, there is clinica CECI.
Thank you so much, sir.
Then, later in the day, with your testicles drained by Sao Paulo, Brazil's finest, you go to. Wait for it.
Tako Sushi.
Taco, rymes with TACO, like a fucking Tijuana street TAKO but a Japanese all you can eat, tako, sushi, in liberdade.
Like stay in cheap love motel, like.
Hotel story.
OK.
Look.
You fucking Sicilians, you fucking gambucci 's you fiats, you ferrarris's you pelosi's you paoluccis, stop with the 1500 r pussy. I mean. Stay in Las Vegas, Nevada in the Rich World.
You go to fucking Brazil for 30 to 40 dollar pussy that fucks like a trailer trash nympho, like Norma Kusma as a 28 year old who needs to pay the rent, and that is.
Clinica ceci.
Tangara,
And then you go to.
Tako sushi.
And there, you remember our saint, saint alto bom gosto, rabbi alto bom gosto, who is noted in hebrew in.
Deuteronomy 69:69.
Isaaiah 69:69.
And.
Talmud 69:69.
Let there be peace because a nut busted Iraqi is a happy non violent Iraqi, right.
See Generation Kill for the allusion.
God and Abraham and allah and God bless all nations with robust systems of paid sex work.
Now just get the rich world to allow their health insurance for veterans to pay for said therapeutic work.
Selah.
Shalom.
Peace be unto all men, especially those who fuck the throats of our friends, the primates with pussies who prostitute their throats at ceci.
[QUOTE=Oskarr1981;3088433]Bruna. It had been two years since last time. I kept thinking about her.
Inded, after a long time without trips to So Paulo, I reconnected with the delightful Bruna. Passionate sex and, as always, the best blowjob in years; she asked me to go down on her and fuck her hard, and we finally came together. Cannot be recommended strongly enough.
Note: she only works on saturdays and it is advisable to book her ahead of time.
The clinica is at 2189 avenida Ceci. I always include it in my quests, along with Prime and Miruna in Moema.[/QUOTE]
No guidance on the proper pricing for anal at Scandallo? Tochka? RioFan? Anybody?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088476]No guidance on the proper pricing for anal at Scandallo? Tochka? RioFan? Anybody?[/QUOTE]I've seen a few questions about anal service pricing at Scandallo, but since it's not my area nor fetish, I can't provide scandallo going rate for that level of service.
BUTT for those looking for anal options in Moema (CLnicas) and Prive in So Paulo Clinicas.
Use (gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL]).
Prices for anal services at moema clinics typically range between 220 BRL and 330 BRL per session.
Many clinicas promote the anal queens providers in their wasssp status, usually with a video previews or anal toys to let you know she offers that services before you visit.
CLnica Anallia: Laura (known as Rainha do Anal) and.
CLnica Chanel has half dozen garotas offering up their entire branca ass for price of lunch at Shopping Ibirapuera.
use ur iphone
Go to [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?[/URL].
Use the search bar at the top of the page.
Type in.
Clinica "Fez Anal SIM";.
This will return list of member reports of garotas who offer anal services along with their pricing and clinica name.
tap translate icon to read report in english
Plus there are a bunch of good search tools for gp-guia floating around in the ISG So Paulo forum somewhere.
Finally went to this club after only going to Casarao for the last year, entrance was 150 which was only consumable with drinks. Atmosphere is great and very secure, paying with card no problems. They accept all cards, all the staff speak english which honestly I didn't need. Went on a Sunday It was quite slow, average quality of the garotas are ncier than Casarao. Also the rooms are much nicer too.
Banged a 21 year old cutie. BBBJ wet and sloppy sex, I think I overpaid a little 1000 for an hour and the room fee was 250. Honestly I have been wanting to leave punting behind, sex is great and so ofrth but it just feels the same. Been longing to repeat the experience I had with a young loira when I started visiting Casarao, and now it just doenst feel the same.
I agree with you about gpguia. My experience with the anal upsell at Chanel, Yankin, Tangara etc has been 50 to 150. I've never paid 150.50 to 100 has been enough and I haven't had to negotiate very much. The original question was about Scandallo so that's another world.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3088542]I've seen a few questions about anal service pricing at Scandallo, but since it's not my area nor fetish, I can't provide scandallo going rate for that level of service.
BUTT for those looking for anal options in Moema (CLnicas) and Prive in So Paulo Clinicas.
Use (gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL]).
Prices for anal services at moema clinics typically range between 220 BRL and 330 BRL per session.
Many clinicas promote the anal queens providers in their wasssp status, usually with a video previews or anal toys to let you know she offers that services before you visit.
CLnica Anallia: Laura (known as Rainha do Anal) and..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088476]No guidance on the proper pricing for anal at Scandallo? Tochka? RioFan? Anybody?[/QUOTE]I did in 2023, it was a long and late negotiation. I arrived very late at scandallo during a slow night, there were good looking girls alone at almost 3:30 am. A slim red head in the bar next to the restaurant. So I sit very close to her and I see her losing another client. It wasn't her lucky night. One minute later I offered are $1000 for full anal. She was reluctant at first, but I kept firm my proposal. She agreed at 4 am.
The penetration was an electrifying experience at around 5 am.
I am offended you left out Clinica Chanel, one of my favorite bottom feeder venues. It and Yankin actually have frequent flyer style loyalty programs.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3088446]Now that motivates the living PISS out of Vagabundo!
I love love Like fucking Amo Clinica Ceci!
That is so in the vagabundo zone, I can't even bend a woman over and plough her pussy!
Miruna, check!
Then near the SP metro, there is clinica CECI.
Thank you so much, sir.
Then, later in the day, with your testicles drained by Sao Paulo, Brazil's finest, you go to. Wait for it.
Tako Sushi..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3088542]I've seen a few questions about anal service pricing at Scandallo, but since it's not my area nor fetish, I can't provide scandallo going rate for that level of service.
BUTT for those looking for anal options in Moema (CLnicas) and Prive in So Paulo Clinicas.
Use (gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL]).
Prices for anal services at moema clinics typically range between 220 BRL and 330 BRL per session.
Many clinicas promote the anal queens providers in their wasssp status, usually with a video previews or anal toys to let you know she offers that services before you visit..[/QUOTE][URL]https://analytics.exclusivacam.com/[/URL] Easier to use this website (gathering data from gp-guia) and select the filter "faz anal" sim.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight. Don't be afraid to negotiate and temporarily walk away, when they see you talking to other girls they will bring their price down and their services up. Most girls will do BBBJ, but always verify. Out of the 70 girls I've had, I have paid 1000 are for 1 hour for the majority of them. Record low price I got was 500 are for an hour. Second record, threesome with two 18 year olds where I paid them 600 are each. There is only 5 girls where I had to pay 1500, and even those girls I could've got lower but I made bad decisions while drunk. I have had girls for 700 r, 800 r, and 900 r too. One girl told me 3000 r and then came down to 1000 are later, but I didn't even fuck her because I found her initial price absolutely disrespectful and delusional LOL. One of my friends that's lived here 7 years takes almost all girls for 800 are for an hour. I have another friend that takes many girls for 400 are for 30 minutes. At Gaugin, the price should be lower, I've paid 600 are to 900 are for an hour there, avg 800. My other friend pays 500 to 800 are. For thirty minutes it should be 300 r to 500 r..[/QUOTE]Amen. Girls I wouldn't fuvk for free asking for 2 k reals at Scandallo. Outrageous.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;3088578]I did in 2023, it was a long and late negotiation. I arrived very late at scandallo during a slow night, there were good looking girls alone at almost 3:30 am. A slim red head in the bar next to the restaurant. So I sit very close to her and I see her losing another client. It wasn't her lucky night. One minute later I offered are $1000 for full anal. She was reluctant at first, but I kept firm my proposal. She agreed at 4 am. The penetration was an electrifying experience at around 5 am.[/QUOTE]Or else we might have to start calling you "HiddenBrownEye"! Aahahaha!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088645]Or else we might have to start calling you "HiddenBrownEye"! Aahahaha![/QUOTE]I first should score at least a dozen of rims before I get such oustanding name hahahahaha.
Thanks for the detailed info. May I ask if the pictures are accurate? And if you don't like the real person, can you cancel her?
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3087993]Fatal Model is the best escort site in Brazil. It's like a Amazon start up with girl ID and age verification, full body 360 degree video, girl facial verification and AI / filter blockage, upfront pricing of all service, client reviews and ability to make lists and filters. They out new features every month. Some features require a subscription but IMHO worth it. On the girl "shop" side, it engages the girls with how to guides, metrics, point scoring / buying, virtual offering and an only fans type site. Maybe girls charge a premium, huge range 200 to 2000 per hour. Personally 500-600 is the sweet spot and I would only pay 1000 or more for a 9+ girl. I tried a bunch of girls and all have been amazing, many have other civilian jobs or students. If it wasn't for the all the in person boate and clinicas, one can use this site and make a worth while trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gordon987;3088723]Thanks for the detailed info. May I ask if the pictures are accurate? And if you don't like the real person, can you cancel her?[/QUOTE]Almost all online escort sites in Brazil have independent girls, who set their own prices and services. For fatalmodel, the most reliable is the 360 full body verification video when they confirm the girls ID. Also look at the other videos, faking or altering videos is still beyond most girls abilities. Most photos esp the amateur ones are accurate, if it looks like a professional photo expect some editing. Bait and switch is possible but the client reviews usually point out those profiles quickly. I usually meet the girl outside my building or in hotel lobby, if it's not the same girl, then I would cancel and maybe give her some transport fee. Though that has yet to happen to me.
More complete report soon. But here's how a recent negotiation with a Scan girl went. It was over in 15 seconds. To be fair she was prob a B tier girl but had s smoking body and great in the room.
The best thing is for you to start with what you usually do. That lets her know youre not a newbie. And then just be firm. Obv depends on the girl but thai is how it went down.
Me: I usually do 1000.
Her: 2000
Me: No.
Her:1500
Me: No.
Her: Ok 1000.
That was it. 15 seconds. Don't pay 2000. Just be prepared to walk. There's a hundred more girls. And yes it can be this simple.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3088892] Just be prepared to walk. There's a hundred more girls. And yes it can be this simple.[/QUOTE]Preach brother preach. Very simple. If she likes you she'll come down on the price. Or if she's desperate but I've had some scoff at me for saying no to their high outrageous price LOL. Not my loss.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3088892]More complete report soon. But here's how a recent negotiation with a Scan girl went. It was over in 15 seconds. To be fair she was prob a B tier girl but had s smoking body and great in the room. The best thing is for you to start with what you usually do. That lets her know youre not a newbie. And then just be firm. Obv depends on the girl but thai is how it went down.
Me: I usually do 1000.
Her: 2000
Me: No.
Her:1500.[/QUOTE]Do you think it would be fair to add some amount of premium for anal? I usually try to do anal sessions at Scandallo for around 1,200. A price of 2,000 is outrageous, and I would not pay that under any circumstances!
I absolutely love this, never forget you hold the cards.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3088892]More complete report soon. But here's how a recent negotiation with a Scan girl went. It was over in 15 seconds. To be fair she was prob a B tier girl but had s smoking body and great in the room.
The best thing is for you to start with what you usually do. That lets her know youre not a newbie. And then just be firm. Obv depends on the girl but thai is how it went down.
Me: I usually do 1000.
Her: 2000
Me: No.
Her:1500
Me: No.
Her: Ok 1000.
That was it. 15 seconds. Don't pay 2000. Just be prepared to walk. There's a hundred more girls. And yes it can be this simple.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088901]Do you think it would be fair to add some amount of premium for anal? I usually try to do anal sessions at Scandallo for around 1,200. A price of 2,000 is outrageous, and I would not pay that under any circumstances![/QUOTE]Why? Do you think that part of the anatomy warrants a premium? So, is your premium value $R200?
Just to be clear is the $R200 an extra amount added on top of your base rate of $R1000, making the total $R1200?
Or do you mean the $R200 is added on top of your minimum price (your floor), which might change the final number?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088476] No guidance on the proper pricing for anal at Scandallo?[/QUOTE] [b]Anyone, and I mean Anyone, going to... Scandallo[/b] in the next few days or weeks, please ask even if you're not interested. Just share/post reports of the quotes you receive to help settle this burning question everyone needs to[i] Know...... LOL[/i]!
[QUOTE=Sloninger;3088909]I absolutely love this, never forget you hold the cards.[/QUOTE]You absolutely can't ignore the fact that by Steve's own admission, it wasn't a top tier girl (thanks for being transparent). Guys try this on top tier girls and report back on how it goes. Also, as The Critic suggests, ask about anal just to get some data points.
So I had to check out the Sunday line up since its a new thing they rolled out this year.
400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come.
All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened).
8 pm-4 am.
So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho).
Maybe like 50 girls at most.
Less guys.
Maybe a 3 to 1 ratio.
I talked to 3 girls and they all started at 2 k.
I didn't bother negotiating because I don't deal with terrorists.
I'm sure I could have gotten them down to 1 k but they werent anything special and I was just more curious than anything.
One girl told me she lives in the apartments that the scan owners own that the other girls all live in.
Its just a cube room for 2 kbrl.
So she wanted a months rent from me.
She didn't go with anyone else.
I went to scan the other normal days like weds, thrus, Saturday and honestly haven't seen anyone I really liked as I've had before.
The girls would always start off at 2 k.
I'm not a fan of silly cones and plastic (I'm an environmentalist).
Scan for me has fallen in value because it's just mostly the same girls.
Maybe its just my bad timing but I would usually see the seasonal new girl.
I've been liking casarao and gaugin more.
Fatal model also comes in clutch sometimes.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3088954]So I had to check out the Sunday line up since its a new thing they rolled out this year.
400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come.
All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened).
8 pm-4 am.
So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho).[/QUOTE]Which club?
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3088954]So I had to check out the Sunday line up since its a new thing they rolled out this year.
400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come.
All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened).
8 pm-4 am.
So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho).
Maybe like 50 girls at most.
Less guys.
Maybe a 3 to 1 ratio.
I talked to 3 girls and they all started at 2 k..[/QUOTE]What do you consider ugly women? Fat? Skinny? Silicone? What are your tastes?
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3088954]So I had to check out the Sunday line up since it’s a new thing they rolled out this year. 400 BRL entrance no matter what time you come. All consumable (I've noticed bomboa and gaugin have been limiting the entrance fee to only drinks- no food, Bahamas clubs too they just reopened). 8 pm-4 am. So they only open the restaurant area, the side outdoor area next to the lobby (where there usually is an ice cream cart) it's the smokers area and the club area (it only opens after 10 pm tho). Maybe like 50 girls at most. Less guys. Maybe a 3 to 1 ratio. I talked to 3 girls and they all started at 2 k. I didn't bother negotiating because I don't deal with terrorists. I'm sure I could have gotten them down to 1 k but they werent anything special and I was just more curious than anything. One girl told me she lives in the apartments that the scan owners own that the other girls all live in. Its just a cube room for 2 kbrl. So she wanted a months rent from me. She didn't go with anyone else. I went to scan the other normal days like weds, thrus, Saturday and honestly haven't seen anyone I really liked as I've had before. The girls would always start off at 2 k. I'm not a fan of silly cones and plastic (I'm an environmentalist). Scan for me has fallen in value because it's just mostly the same girls. Maybe it’s just my bad timing but I would usually see the seasonal new girl. I've been liking casarao and gaugin more. Fatal model also comes in clutch sometimes.[/QUOTE]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088959]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed![/QUOTE]Anytime, anywhere this happens, it's the second tier girls that suffer.
They need a volume of men at the club to make their nut.
Of course, this will cause some girls to simply move to Casarao and Gauguin.
Attractiveness does have a shelf-life.
I went back to Casaro again and arrived early, around 11:30 pm Its kinda boring early. I wanted to catch some new fresh garotas before they are taken up by guys that pay a lot more than me. Kkk.
One thing I've noticed many of the same garotas arevthere night after night. Same thing happend in scandallo after you bounce in and out of there several times a month. Same routine of faces.
Hopefully, the onibus and flights from Minas Gerais will bring in some new talent and fresh faces.
I had a session with a 19-year-old blonde, branca, wearing a red dress. Sitting across from the stage. She looks Ukrainian or Russian. She stared me down while licking red lipstick. I said are $500 brl for one hour. Lets go now. Boom. Vamos we went. . She also works the day shift at Scandallo. We'the sessioned together before, so we already knew what to expect. Overall, the experience was alright not bad, nothing particularly new. , got to remeber to snag two blonde ukrainians for spicy threesomes.
Damage:
Smart Hotel Ltda: are $120 brl for my favorite room #2.
BH Bar e Danceteria Ltda: are $170 brl my drink & her drink.
Total: are $290 brl paid by wise pix for everything
Now I'm looking forward to Halloween. I'the love to see the garotas dressed up in their Halloween costumes. There seem to be plenty of Halloween-themed sex parties being promoted around So Paulo, so hopefully there will be some interesting options.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088959]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed![/QUOTE]It's merely their asking price. Which I don't even inquire about. I do what Steve9696 suggested a few posts back -- simply tell them what I'll pay if they do x, why, and z. They either agree or they don't, no negotiation.
Not sure why guys insist on this "How much do you charge" method.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;3088200]I have lived in Sao Paulo for 9 months and have been with 70+ girls at Scandallo, you guys need to stop overpaying. You are absolutely ruining this place and it will be dead in 2 years at this rate. I am hearing of stupid gringos paying 2000 are for completely ugly girls I wouldn't even fuck for free. 90% of Scandallo girls will take 1000 are for one hour, 2000 are for an overnight.[/QUOTE]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?
[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089050]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?[/QUOTE]You make a good point, but the big draw to Sao Paulo is the caliber of woman and service is very high. You're also paying for the atmosphere and venue of the clubs. Many of them rival high end restaurants and hotels and are quite classy.
I know at my local high end strip clubs in the USA, if your walking in cold, its $350 just to get them to the back room and then you need a little game to even get them to offer extras and your looking at another few hundred and the service isn't going to match that of the Brazillians. After drinks and cover, with a high end women in USA, its going to be close to $1000 if you don't know and haven't established a report. Maybe 6-7 hundred that if were just speaking a generally attractive girl, but either way it will be significanty more expensive than 2-3 hundred.
I think Sao Paulo is definititely not a budget destination, although I am sure it can be. I think its really only worth it if you have two weeks minimum and 2 k for the girls, drinks, party, etc over the course of your trip.
If you have the time and money, its a great time for those who want very attractive women who offer great genuine service.
To play devil's advocate, a 10 hour flight is absolutely brutal and it can run you around $1500 total plus another $1000 for a hotel. Its $2500 just for a flight and hotels before you even bust a nut, that's not chump change and I can see guys getting lazy and just skipping it altogether to just bang some shady local strippers and I totally get that as well.
To totally justify Sao Paulo, usually you are also just wanting a change of scenery and looking forward to some other aspects of the vacation as well. Sunny weather, beach, pool, friendly staff, different gym, nice fancy dinners, local tourist attractions, etc.
[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089050]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?[/QUOTE]He's talking about Scandallo, the most expensive club in town, and a must-see. But, there are plenty of others plus the daytime clinicas that are far more affordable.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3088959]I smell a serious cartel going on here. The girls agreeing amongst themselves to ask for 2,000 reais for a standard session. It's an outrageous price increase, and I just won't session at Scandallo during my upcoming trip if that's the price! Another club about to get ruined by a bunch of greedy hoors and stupid gringos overpaying. Then going to other clubs and doing the same thing! Steamed![/QUOTE]If I had to guess, and this is a guess, the girls at Scandallos really seemed to be going by the mentality "every woman for themselves". I would be surprised if they were all collabortating to raise to prices and I would be surprised if the new standard was 2 k a fuck. Its a free market and if you get a night with more girls than guys, your still going to get girls dropping prices fast as they don't want to risk a night of not getting a customer to cover their travel expenses. If its a slow night and the girls have already made a decent amount, then your going to run into those higher asking prices.
I don't think I had any girls last summer turn down a 1200 and most were good with 1000 I think.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3088998]Anytime, anywhere this happens, it's the second tier girls that suffer. They need a volume of men at the club to make their nut. Of course, this will cause some girls to simply move to Casarao and Gauguin. Attractiveness does have a shelf-life.[/QUOTE]According to recent reports, lower tier girls are asking for 2,000 just like anybody else. Biting the hand that feeds them! I won't be paying 2,000 reais to anybody at Scandallo. Believe this.
[QUOTE=Combo;3089029]It's merely their asking price. Which I don't even inquire about. I do what Steve9696 suggested a few posts back -- simply tell them what I'll pay if they do x, why, and z. They either agree or they don't, no negotiation.
Not sure why guys insist on this "How much do you charge" method.[/QUOTE]I think what were all worried about is once you pay the lower rate, will she give you the "dead fish" service. Obviously you need to vet a little bit and catch the right vibe. If she is being shady in negotiations and doesn't accept my offer with a look on her face like she is pleased to get paid to get fucked by me, I usually don't risk it. Nothing worse than getting bamboozled on a trip, think your about to get it on like last tango and instead you get a rain jacket and an old fashion.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3089089]According to recent reports, lower tier girls are asking for 2,000 just like anybody else. Biting the hand that feeds them! I won't be paying 2,000 reais to anybody at Scandallo. Believe this.[/QUOTE]I was at Scandallo in 2024 for NFL Sao Paulo game on big screen. Place was full of make it rain bros from philly.
Guys with no porto, no experience in brasil, first time in scandallo paid 2 mil and 3 mil per session. With Google translate and credit card swipes you were king for a night.
Kkk.
Many bros only had less than a week in town and could afford top of market rates for one or two nights to get those hottest branca garotas porno fantasy session.
Scandallo business has been around twenty plus years. Or at least the staff & crew worked there 12 to 20 years. They remain top of market for first timers or special events.
When Leonardo was at Scandy the INGRESSO CONSOME was are $ 1. 200,00 brl to get in.
VIP tables 01 a 12 - are $ 8. 000,00 brl per table.
MEZANINO was 7. 000,00 brl CAMAROTE E- are $.
8. 000,00 brl.
CAMAROTE and are $ 12.000,00 brl.
CAMAROTe table are $ 15.000,00 brl.
Prices for the tables, somebody with coin was pay 12 mil brl to 15 mil brl.
Shit I remember the olden days paying 800 brl for A level talent at scandy. Not superised to hear frequent travellers to Scandy move on down to Casarao & Gauguin as more bang for the buck.
Thanks for the info. Good to know. I've lived in Thailand on and off for a total of about 9 years and used to way less. I'm not a heavy monger but like to find good regulars who do what I like and are charming good souls. That could be had in Thailand from 2012-2023. Not so sure it's quite as good now.
I'm looking to explore and have never done Latin America at all. Time to get out there. Maybe fly USA to BOG or MED then onward to GIG etc and have a look around and spend some of my hard earned retirement savings.
Any first timer advice to Rio / Sao Paulo or Colombia much appreciated, or of course some popular saved links to trip reports done recently have some destinations, plans once I arrive.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3089086]You make a good point, but the big draw to Sao Paulo is the caliber of woman and service is very high. You're also paying for the atmosphere and venue of the clubs. Many of them rival high end restaurants and hotels and are quite classy.
I know at my local high end strip clubs in the USA, if your walking in cold, its $350 just to get them to the back room and then you need a little game to even get them to offer extras and your looking at another few hundred and the service isn't going to match that of the Brazillians. After drinks and cover, with a high end women in USA, its going to be close to $1000 if you don't know and haven't established a report. Maybe 6-7 hundred that if were just speaking a generally attractive girl, but either way it will be significanty more expensive than 2-3 hundred..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3089086]To totally justify Sao Paulo, usually you are also just wanting a change of scenery and looking forward to some other aspects of the vacation as well. Sunny weather, beach, pool, friendly staff, different gym, nice fancy dinners, local tourist attractions, etc.[/QUOTE]This sounds like it might be leading towards combining a Sao Paulo trip with Rio or the Nordeste (Northeast). There's also Iguazú Falls.
These are good options and many here have visited these destinations. Of course while SP is the premier mongering destination in Brazil, you will find a lot of action in Rio.
Sao Paulo is a great city, but it's a dense urban sprawl that doesn't appeal to everyone's tourism interests.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3089181]This sounds like it might be leading towards combining a Sao Paulo trip with Rio or the Nordeste (Northeast). There's also Iguaz Falls. These are good options and many here have visited these destinations. Of course while SP is the premier mongering destination in Brazil, you will find a lot of action in Rio. Sao Paulo is a great city, but it's a dense urban sprawl that doesn't appeal to everyone's tourism interests.[/QUOTE]After having been to Rio and Sampa many times, this is how I do. To try to keep it fresh and interesting. On the itinerary for my next month-long trip are Sampa, Salvador, and Rio. Previous journeys have included Porto Alegre (did not like), Curitiba (really liked), and Florianopolis (cool and especially if you like the beach). Other destinations that have my interest for future travels are Belo Horizonte and Balneario Camboriu.
[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089100]Any first timer advice to Rio / Sao Paulo or Colombia much appreciated, or of course some popular saved links to trip reports done recently have some destinations, plans once I arrive.[/QUOTE]Read the RODs. Read as many of those as possible from the present back. They will contain most of what you need to know en toto.
[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089050]Is this correct? $200-$300 USD to play in Sao Paulo clubs? I mean at those rates just stay home in the USA! 5 real is approx $1 USD right?[/QUOTE]It's a good question. It's been asked from time-to-time.
First, the USA Is crazy expensive. USA Laws and random enforcement have not only made it risky, but also created higher prices.
Canada is probably a better North American comparison. It's more reasonable particularly in USA Dollar terms.
You probably realize you will often not see the face of a Canadian escort. I can also assure you Canadian escorts in general aren't as passionate as their Brazilian counterparts.
Brazilian women (escorts too) are proud of their ability to please a man. Brazilian men won't accept anything less.
As some have mentioned, Scandallo has become a premier mongering destination. You go there to select from a smorgasbord of stunning women in the flesh. You enjoy the spectacle.
There are many other options in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;3088942]Why? Do you think that part of the anatomy warrants a premium? So, is your premium value $R200? Just to be clear is the $R200 an extra amount added on top of your base rate of $R1000, making the total $R1200? Or do you mean the $R200 is added on top of your minimum price (your floor), which might change the final number? [b]Anyone, and I mean Anyone, going to... Scandallo[/b] in the next few days or weeks, please ask even if you're not interested. Just share/post reports of the quotes you receive to help settle this burning question everyone needs to[i] Know...... LOL[/i]![/QUOTE]Number 1, it's pretty universally accepted around the world that taking it in the ass is considered to be a "special act", admittedly with Brazil maybe being a bit of an exception LOL. Number 2, I don't have a minimum. The less someone charges me the better. So, why the hell have a hard and fast minimum? That doesn't even make sense to me. And number 3, since I'm an anal connoisseur up in here and others don't seem to have much to say about it with respect to Scandallo, I guess I get to help set the standard for Scandallo anal pricing then don't I? Let's see what happens when I land in November.
[QUOTE=JimmyTug;3089100]Thanks for the info. Good to know. I've lived in Thailand on and off for a total of about 9 years and used to way less. I'm not a heavy monger but like to find good regulars who do what I like and are charming good souls. That could be had in Thailand from 2012-2023. Not so sure it's quite as good now.
I'm looking to explore and have never done Latin America at all. Time to get out there. Maybe fly USA to BOG or MED then onward to GIG etc and have a look around and spend some of my hard earned retirement savings.
Any first timer advice to Rio / Sao Paulo or Colombia much appreciated, or of course some popular saved links to trip reports done recently have some destinations, plans once I arrive.[/QUOTE]In the past, Brazil, Thailand and Colombia were both very good for a type of companionship that transcended sex. If you were a good hang, you could spend some time chilling or touring with a girl. Many of the girls appreciated not being in a meat market looking for their next client. You just had to give them some money here and there to make it worth their while.
You can still find this in Brazil, Thailand and other destinations. It's just harder to find. Brazil and Thailand seem to be saturated with both mongers and transactional providers. I don't know if this was caused by the girls carrying around smartphones and getting dinged by multiple men on a given night. Certainly, globalization of the sort where Brazilian girls routinely spend several months in Europe is a contributing factor. Even if a girl hasn't worked in Europe, she has had a friend who has worked there.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3089181]This sounds like it might be leading towards combining a Sao Paulo trip with Rio or the Nordeste (Northeast). There's also Iguaz Falls.
These are good options and many here have visited these destinations. Of course while SP is the premier mongering destination in Brazil, you will find a lot of action in Rio.
Sao Paulo is a great city, but it's a dense urban sprawl that doesn't appeal to everyone's tourism interests.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. My first (and so far only) trip to Brazil I covered Sao Paulo, Rio and Iguazu Falls. From a tourist point of view, Iguazu Falls on both the Brazil and Argentina sides were amazing. The food was okay but not as good as in Asia. Of course the mongering was great as the sps I met were easily the most affectionate working girls I've come across. However, apart from Iguazu Falls, I found much of my time in between sessions especially in Sao Paulo to be somewhat boring. It doesn't take long to see whatever limited tourist sights there are in Sao Paulo and even in Rio. I'm sure I'll come back to Brazil for more mongering in the future but I'm going to have quite a challenge to keep myself busy and occupied when I'm not with girls there. For me, this is true for Colombia as well. If it weren't for the chicas, I wouldn't even bother returning to Latin America after I've seen the main tourist attractions.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3089209]Totally agree. My first (and so far only) trip to Brazil I covered Sao Paulo, Rio and Iguazu Falls. From a tourist point of view, Iguazu Falls on both the Brazil and Argentina sides were amazing. The food was okay but not as good as in Asia. Of course the mongering was great as the sps I met were easily the most affectionate working girls I've come across. However, apart from Iguazu Falls, I found much of my time in between sessions especially in Sao Paulo to be somewhat boring. It doesn't take long to see whatever limited tourist sights there are in Sao Paulo and even in Rio. I'm sure I'll come back to Brazil for more mongering in the future but I'm going to have quite a challenge to keep myself busy and occupied when I'm not with girls there. For me, this is true for Colombia as well. If it weren't for the chicas, I wouldn't even bother returning to Latin America after I've seen the main tourist attractions.[/QUOTE]Check out tour and event offerings on sites like TripAdvisor. There are a ton of things to do, and I found some new stuff for my upcoming time I'll spend in Salvador and even Rio.
Sao Paulo has the best of world class restaurants, museums, sporting and cultural events, parks and gardens. I first visited Sao Paulo in the late 80's and I've gone regularly the past 10 years but I still find plenty to keep me entertained between sessions. On the other hand, I'm pretty low maintenance in this category because for example I'm happy spending a day exercising and people watching in Ibirapuera Park or an afternoon at Banco do Brasil Cultural Center.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3089209]Totally agree. My first (and so far only) trip to Brazil I covered Sao Paulo, Rio and Iguazu Falls. From a tourist point of view, Iguazu Falls on both the Brazil and Argentina sides were amazing. The food was okay but not as good as in Asia. Of course the mongering was great as the sps I met were easily the most affectionate working girls I've come across. However, apart from Iguazu Falls, I found much of my time in between sessions especially in Sao Paulo to be somewhat boring. It doesn't take long to see whatever limited tourist sights there are in Sao Paulo and even in Rio. I'm sure I'll come back to Brazil for more mongering in the future but I'm going to have quite a challenge to keep myself busy and occupied when I'm not with girls there. For me, this is true for Colombia as well. If it weren't for the chicas, I wouldn't even bother returning to Latin America after I've seen the main tourist attractions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3089209]Totally agree. My first (and so far only) trip to Brazil I covered Sao Paulo, Rio and Iguazu Falls. From a tourist point of view, Iguazu Falls on both the Brazil and Argentina sides were amazing. The food was okay but not as good as in Asia. Of course the mongering was great as the sps I met were easily the most affectionate working girls I've come across. However, apart from Iguazu Falls, I found much of my time in between sessions especially in Sao Paulo to be somewhat boring. It doesn't take long to see whatever limited tourist sights there are in Sao Paulo and even in Rio. I'm sure I'll come back to Brazil for more mongering in the future but I'm going to have quite a challenge to keep myself busy and occupied when I'm not with girls there. For me, this is true for Colombia as well. If it weren't for the chicas, I wouldn't even bother returning to Latin America after I've seen the main tourist attractions.[/QUOTE]I agree that also for me Sao Paulo as city was limited on the touristic site seeing side; Yet outside Sao Paulo and especially outside Rio city there are many things to do. I could pass a month only snorkelling, swimming, diving and other attractions around Buzios, Arrial do Cabo, and Cabo Frio.
I find this ongoing thread to be a fascinating study of the human psyche. I'm seeing hints of emotional engagement of the sort that isn't ideal in any business transaction. It's the same kind of energy that leads to ruinous alimony liability. Anyway, the pricing structure of Scandallo is more documented than most anything else in this forum. What doesn't come across in print is the objective meaning of terms like "top tier," "8, 9 ,10" etc. Guys have to define that for themselves because it's subjective except at the extremes. Some of the elaborate explanations feel to me like attempts to justify what we know to be unreasonable. I'm a strong believer that it's no one else's business what anyone else pays.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;3088942]Why? Do you think that part of the anatomy warrants a premium? So, is your premium value $R200?
Just to be clear is the $R200 an extra amount added on top of your base rate of $R1000, making the total $R1200?
Or do you mean the $R200 is added on top of your minimum price (your floor), which might change the final number?
[b]Anyone, and I mean Anyone, going to... Scandallo[/b] in the next few days or weeks, please ask even if you're not interested. Just share/post reports of the quotes you receive to help settle this burning question everyone needs to[i] Know...... LOL[/i]![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3089242]I'm a strong believer that it's no one else's business what anyone else pays.[/QUOTE]What we all pay is probably the biggest topic on the entire ISG forum. It's why many of us North Americans and Western Europeans initially set sail for new lands.
When I would come back from my adventures many moons ago, my friends would be what the fuck. You walked into a disco, took the hottest girl home and you paid what?
They soon set their compass for far distant lands as well.
This is good information being passed along to the membership. Some guys simply won't go to Scandallo because of the prices. Others might be intimidated in boates if they weren't knowledgeable of the pricing scale. The Brasileiras would take advantage of them for sure.
Knowledge is power!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3089242]Anyway, the pricing structure of Scandallo is more documented than most anything else in this forum.[/QUOTE]The pricing structure at Scandallo, at all the other major clubs, and at the clinicas has [B]all[/B] been very well-documented on this site. But what has not been discussed in detail is whether or not anal service should come with a premium in Sampa, and I'm particularly interested in this question as it pertains to Scandallo. Now, if we were talking about Rio, I can say with 100% confidence that the answer is "no". The price is the price, and the main question for an anal connoisseur in Rio is simply whether or not the girl does anal or not, and that's it. If she does, then anal is included in the base price, and if she doesn't, then it's not since she doesn't cornhole anyway. But in Sao Paulo, I've found girls wanting to ask for a bit more when anal is on the menu. Therefore, I asked about this to see what others were experiencing in Sampa, and what they thought would be a fair price for anal, again specifically at Scandallo. So far, the guidance on this has been zilch. Even a guy like Tochka has no clear answers on the subject. But since you claim that the pricing structure is so generally known at Scandallo, then true to your name in this place, why don't you dispense with some knowledge with respect to my inquiry then? What say ye oh knowledgeable one? In Sao Paulo, and specifically at Scandallo, does the base price always include anal? Or, like in many other parts of the world, do the girls expect (and should they receive) a little something extra for taking it up that "tubo de escape"?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3089242] I'm a strong believer that it's no one else's business what anyone else pays.[/QUOTE]In order to gain Knowledge you must read and understand. The debate is not about the usual who paid what and you paid too much or cheap Charlie conversation.
The Cane is specifically asking for what quotes mongers are receiving for a specific item / act [U]to determine his approach when in Scandallo only. [/U].
[QUOTE=The Cane;3088476]No guidance on the proper pricing for anal at Scandallo? ............. Anybody?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Cane;3088901]Do you think it would be fair to add some amount of premium for anal? I usually try to do anal sessions at Scandallo for around 1,200.[/quote]
[QUOTE=TheCritic;3089289]In order to gain Knowledge you must read and understand. The debate is not about the usual who paid what and you paid too much or cheap Charlie conversation. The Cane is specifically asking for what quotes mongers are receiving for a specific item / act [U]to determine his approach when in Scandallo only. [/U].[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarity. I'm asking about something very specific now that, surprisingly when I think about it, has not been a part of the usual discussions about pricing. And I'm most interested in Scandallo. David Anderson was just there and wrote some reports, but he was a noob who did very little successful negotiating. Was hoping to hear from more experienced Scandallo mongers on the subject. Unfortunately, Tochka is not an "analist", so he had nothing for me, and RioFan who got me thinking about this is an absentee monger for the moment. And nobody else has stepped forward. I guess it's going to be up to me in November then! I would describe myself as a "moderate negotiator" meaning that I'm not always trying to drive a "hard bargain". I'm fair but I'm firm!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3089305]Thanks for the clarity. I'm asking about something very specific now that, Unfortunately, Tochka is not an "analist", so he had nothing for me, And nobody else has stepped forward. I guess it's going to be up to me in November then! I would describe myself as a "moderate negotiator" meaning that I'm not always trying to drive a "hard bargain". I'm fair but I'm firm![/QUOTE]True its not my speciality area in the land of bundas with entire swingy clubs dedicated to sex orgies.
Market Research at 57 House Chanes (and why you should always ask clarifying questions!
While Julia was pouring my coffee at 57 Chanes, I decided to conduct a little informal market research across a sample size of 8 to 10 visibly bored garotas hanging around the tables in the newly opened backroom.
2 garotas: Gave a firm "No, definitely don't do it. " Fair enough.
5 garotas: Said "No, I don't do it. " but immediately followed up with: ". However, since you're special Tochka, for an extra 150 BRL to 300 BRL, Pix they would do it" kkk.
2 garotas: Eyebrows went up when they eagerly said, "Yes! It's already included in the price!
I thought I had hit the Cane jackpot they started enthusiastically describing their collection of anal toys, dildos, and anal strap-ONS. Two garota anal strap on from porno movies.
Damn how exciting.
Wait. ,anal toys. Hold on a second, waiit..anal strap on... Noooo I had to stop them mid-sentence!! Let me clarify who exactly was going to be on the receiving end of the anal pegging kkkk.
Turns out, they thought I wanted it. , That explains why it was included for free!!
Safe to say, my market research phase is officially closed. From now on, sticking strictly to garotas who offer BBBJ, CIM, swallow, and snowballing without any back-door surprises.
Over to you for market research over at Scandallo remember, if a garota is excited, and she says it's "already included in the price " you know why she is excited to get YOUR ass in the room. Kkk.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3089350]Wait. ,anal toys. Hold on a second, waiit..anal strap on... Noooo I had to stop them mid-sentence!! Let me clarify who exactly was going to be on the receiving end of the anal pegging kkkk. Turns out, they thought I wanted it. , That explains why it was included for free!! Safe to say, my market research phase is officially closed. From now on, sticking strictly to garotas who offer BBBJ, CIM, swallow, and snowballing without any back-door surprises. Over to you for market research over at Scandallo remember, if a garota is excited, and she says it's "already included in the price " you know why she is excited to get YOUR ass in the room. Kkk.[/QUOTE]Too funny! Can't say I've ever experienced a similar misunderstanding, but I will make sure they know it's their "cuzinha" I'm talking about, and not mine haha!
Asking directly for a full anal service will get you a NO if you ask it up front, most of the times.
I ask for it when the regular service has ended. Once they see my dick won't hurt their rims (I have no shame to say my dick is normal size or maybe small hahahaha I don't care, I know my arts).
Yes, girls fear big dicks breaking their a*es. Some say NO, others say "Ok, let's try it". Then lubed action starts. It is fascinating of course because some give up half way, some ask for more right there.
When you propose you must be open to get a Yes or a NO.
Go slow and you'll go deep.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3088089]
For guys like me that do not bring garotas back to airbnb or hotel, love motels are excellent option.
For dudes ordering garotas on fatamodel to your hotel or airbnb rio bob advise is spot on. Use that to avoid being trapped in uncomfortable situation.[/QUOTE]I am planning to get fatalmodel girls to my hotel on my next visit to Sao Paulo. May I ask what kind of uncomfortable situation that I might be trapped in? I thought asking girls to my hotel is a quite safe practice?
[QUOTE=Gordon987;3089420]I am planning to get fatalmodel girls to my hotel on my next visit to Sao Paulo. May I ask what kind of uncomfortable situation that I might be trapped in? I thought asking girls to my hotel is a quite safe practice?[/QUOTE]I have some experience that might be helpful in answering this question.
I have used photoacompanhantes and other sites successfully many times and a couple not so successful. Two worst were bait and switch where they were obviously not the one pictured. Both times I tried to make it work but wound up sending them away after paying them. One time was at the Marriott Executive Apartments and she left crying. The other was at an apartment and she just left when I told her to. So far though my success rate is quite high. I have been using them since 2019. Often I go to their place the first time to get to know them then invite them to my place if they work out. A love motel is a good option for a first time or any time as well. Four of my current good regulars came from the sites so I guess my thought is it is worth the risk.
My worst experience was with someone I had known for a few years and not from a web site. She came to me in 2024 on New Years Eve in a Hilton and brought wine. I don't drink so she drank most of it and got quite drunk, crying and bitching. It took quite a bit of work and restraint on my part to finally get her to get on an uber I called for her about 3 in the morning. It was very stressful to me but again it is someone I had had a great time with many times before.
The sites are only one of many avenues to get a girl to your hotel room. One regular for years was from Caesaro. A few from the clinicas. Might as well take advantage of all that SP offers.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;3089378]Asking directly for a full anal service will get you a NO if you ask it up front, most of the times. I ask for it when the regular service has ended. Once they see my dick won't hurt their rims (I have no shame to say my dick is normal size or maybe small hahahaha I don't care, I know my arts). Yes, girls fear big dicks breaking their a*es. Some say NO, others say "Ok, let's try it". Then lubed action starts. It is fascinating of course because some give up half way, some ask for more right there. When you propose you must be open to get a Yes or a NO. Go slow and you'll go deep.[/QUOTE]I absolutely disagree with this approach. If you really want anal, you should always ask for it [B]before[/B] you go to the room (same for BBBJ). Otherwise, you run a much bigger risk of the girl saying no after she already has you in the room and got you committed to a session. Totally disagree that asking before = an automatic no, and especially in Brazil! [B]Always[/B] inquire about any service you just got to have [B]before[/B] you go to the room lest ye be disappointed!
[QUOTE=Gordon987;3089420]I am planning to get fatalmodel girls to my hotel on my next visit to Sao Paulo. May I ask what kind of uncomfortable situation that I might be trapped in? I thought asking girls to my hotel is a quite safe practice?[/QUOTE]Whats your exit plan?
You order escort online to your hotel or airbnb after careful review of her fotos and videos. You open the door to let her in and realize. Shit. She is 20 pounds heavier and 10 years older. Well she is here now, so let her into your room to have fun.
An hour or two later. Boom. Her personality changes. Suddenly she wants to leave early. Then she wants more money or she quietly smokes in your hotel bathroom.
As I've said before, most guys spend more time figuring out how to get a garota into their hotel or Airbnb than they do figuring out how to get her out.
I picked up a hottie, we agreed on the terms-both verbally and over WhatsAppand everything seemed good.
I went back to my nice hotel. Or snuck her into my Airbnb. You paid her upfront for an hour session in the room. 30 min later. Boom. Her personality changes. She wants to leave early. You going to prevent her from leaving early with your money? Or she demands more money or she quietly smokes in the hotel bathroom, leaving you with a $250 USD cleaning fee at checkout.
I've had one run into the hallway crying where everything was on security cameras. I've had enough things go sideways with unvetted garotas that I don't put myself in those situations anymore.
I've also caught girl trying to go through my pants pockets while I was distracted. None of this is hypothetical. It's happened to me and other dudes.
I'm just sharing what I've experienced over the years with brasilian garotas become Unfriendly. Everyone has to decide their own comfort level. My point is simple: have an exit plan to deal with a lying cheating garota is in your place, ready to cause a mess. Just think ahead about garota exit plan.
Have a plan to get her out of your hotel room. Dudes spend more time planning the fantasy to get her ass in than the plan to get her out.
She can claim all sorts of shit to make a scene in your hotel & airbnb. She knows they have cameras in the hallways. Recording interactions and This month is preventing violence against women month.
Even if you are a fluent brasilian speaker a garota running, crying in front of your hotel room demanding more money aint a good look.
Famous quote with hoes. Ya pay them to go away. Charlie Sheen: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave. " is good advice when you in a difficult spot about he said-she said verbal agreements. Think of your options as a foreigner if you try to prevent her from leaving or she demands more money or refuses to leave and she is taking fotos of you with her iphone.
[QUOTE=RioBob;3087945]Through the years I've enjoyed having escorts come over, barravip usually has nice girls with accurate pictures most of the time with few exceptions. What I've done in the past if I'm in a hotel I'll sit in the lobby to wait for the girl when I see her come in and I like her I'll escort her up to my room. If I don't like the way she looks I'll go up to her and introduce myself and tell her she's not my type and pay for her taxi or Uber. Some apartment buildings I've waited in the lobby for them. I've stayed in some apartments that had a bar or restaurant next door and I would sit there waiting for them while I have a beer and do the same thing, if they're not to my liking I tell them they're not my type sorry and pay for their taxi. Once they get into your apartment it's much more messier to get them out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3089490]Whats your exit plan? You order escort online to your hotel or airbnb after careful review of her fotos and videos. You open the door to let her in and realize. Shit. She is 20 pounds heavier and 10 years older. Well she is here now, so let her into your room to have fun. An hour or two later. Boom. Her personality changes. Suddenly she wants to leave early. Then she wants more money or she quietly smokes in your hotel bathroom. As I've said before, most guys spend more time figuring out how to get a garota into their hotel or Airbnb than they do figuring out how to get her out. I picked up a hottie, we agreed on the terms-both verbally and over WhatsApp and everything seemed good. I went back to my nice hotel. Or snuck her into my Airbnb. You paid her upfront for an hour session in the room. 30 min later. Boom. Her personality changes. She wants to leave early. You going to prevent her from leaving early with your money? Or she demands more money or she quietly smokes in the hotel bathroom, leaving you with a $250 USD cleaning fee at checkout. I've had one run into the hallway crying where everything was on security cameras.[/QUOTE]I have no time for all this drama man. I'm supposed to be on vacay! That's why I prefer to just go to the nightclubs or the clinicas. At least that way you know she's not 20 pounds heavier and 10 years older than what you desired. And you can find out things about her, like if she smokes or not (lots of girls don't). To me that's better than pulling a girl off the internet site unseen in the actual flesh and unvetted. And if you really click, then you can go from there. I rarely ever use escort agencies for lots of reasons, and your post highlights some of those. I can say I have had really good luck in Brazil when I have done so, but I'm careful not to push it! I'm tempted to try Fatal Models the next time because you can see faces, and as I've noted before, a face I'm attracted to is crucial for me. Without that, for me the whole package is ruined! Fatal Models (sounds ominous)!
Expect to pay extra for anal. How much extra of course depends on the provider and it's as negotiable as anything else. Maybe Rio is the best place if anal is the primary objective.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3089275]The pricing structure at Scandallo, at all the other major clubs, and at the clinicas has [B]all[/B] been very well-documented on this site. But what has not been discussed in detail is whether or not anal service should come with a premium in Sampa, and I'm particularly interested in this question as it pertains to Scandallo. Now, if we were talking about Rio, I can say with 100% confidence that the answer is "no". The price is the price, and the main question for an anal connoisseur in Rio is simply whether or not the girl does anal or not, and that's it. If she does, then anal is included in the base price, and if she doesn't, then it's not since she doesn't cornhole anyway. But in Sao Paulo, I've found girls wanting to ask for a bit more when anal is on the menu. Therefore, I asked about this to see what others were experiencing in Sampa, and what they thought would be a fair price for anal, again specifically at Scandallo. So far, the guidance on this has been zilch. Even a guy like Tochka has no clear answers on the subject. But since you claim that the pricing structure is so generally known at Scandallo, then true to your name in this place, why don't you dispense with some knowledge with respect to my inquiry then? What say ye oh knowledgeable one? In Sao Paulo, and specifically at Scandallo, does the base price always include anal? Or, like in many other parts of the world, do the girls expect (and should they receive) a little something extra for taking it up that "tubo de escape"?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;3089490]Whats your exit plan?
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Famous quote with hoes. Ya pay them to go away. Charlie Sheen: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave. " is good advice when you in a difficult spot about he said-she said verbal agreements. Think of your options as a foreigner if you try to prevent her from leaving or she demands more money or refuses to leave and she is taking fotos of you with her iphone.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Those things happen.
This is why travelling I usually prefer hotels: 1. There are cameras. 2. I can meet the lady in the lobby to make sure she is suitable.
The problem in Rio that most hotels are not happy when girls comes. Airbnb are much more problematic if the girls goes crazy.
Bottom line. The best place is a motel / love motel per hour.
Although I admit, I sometimes bring girls to my hotel room. Until now I had no problem, except one time, she wanted to leave after 30 minutes and didn't give any service. I decided not confront and lost my 400 reals. It's a small price to pay for not having problems in a hotel or Airbnb.
Something that is very helpful is having a wingman in the apartment or with you.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3089275]The pricing structure at Scandallo, at all the other major clubs, and at the clinicas has [B]all[/B] been very well-documented on this site. But what has not been discussed in detail is whether or not anal service should come with a premium in Sampa, and I'm particularly interested in this question as it pertains to Scandallo. Now, if we were talking about Rio, I can say with 100% confidence that the answer is "no". The price is the price, and the main question for an anal connoisseur in Rio is simply whether or not the girl does anal or not, and that's it. If she does, then anal is included in the base price, and if she doesn't, then it's not since she doesn't cornhole anyway. But in Sao Paulo, I've found girls wanting to ask for a bit more when anal is on the menu. Therefore, I asked about this to see what others were experiencing in Sampa, and what they thought would be a fair price for anal, again specifically at Scandallo. So far, the guidance on this has been zilch. Even a guy like Tochka has no clear answers on the subject. But since you claim that the pricing structure is so generally known at Scandallo, then true to your name in this place, why don't you dispense with some knowledge with respect to my inquiry then? What say ye oh knowledgeable one? In Sao Paulo, and specifically at Scandallo, does the base price always include anal? Or, like in many other parts of the world, do the girls expect (and should they receive) a little something extra for taking it up that "tubo de escape"?[/QUOTE]I'm finally able to post after 2 weeks with the issues with the server. My experience at Scandallo with anal was that I paid around are $1500. The girls were 8 and above. Really good looking and sexy. Perfect shape. I had a memorable experience with all of them. My Strategy I would tell them up front if I don't cum in the ass I won't pay. I did anal I think with 6 out 8.
But I also wanted everything else. CIM, DATY, GFE. I also took pictures and video tape them. So I couldn't really bargin any more than that. I think think one time I paid R$1700 for everything.
I was happy with are $1500 to be able to do everything I wanted because I felt I might never make it to Scandallo. I Paid are $1200 at Gauguin.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3089511]Expect to pay extra for anal. How much extra of course depends on the provider and it's as negotiable as anything else. Maybe Rio is the best place if anal is the primary objective.[/QUOTE]I've enjoyed plenty of anal action in Sampa. It's just that it often hasn't been included in the base price, except in clinicas if a girl actually offered it, but I don't do the clinicas much in favor of the nightclubs. I just wanted to see what others were experiencing.
[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3089569]I also took pictures and video tape them. So I couldn't really bargin any more than that. I Paid are $1200 at Gauguin.[/QUOTE]Did you take pics at Gaugin too? As you know, I have taken many, many pics over the years. I don't have as many from the clubs in Sao Paulo. When I first started going to Brazil, and during my early visits to Scandallo, I didn't have a smartphone. Instead, I had a little digital camera that took great pics (even a blind man could do it), but they would confiscate that and hold it at the door. So no pics. Well, I've had a smartphone for many years now, and they don't take that (I guess they have become too essential to people's lives), so I have my opening. Next time down, I'm going to go for some pics, no face of course. Asking for pics and anal, I'm sure I won't be able to get away with 1,000 reais at Scandallo. But, I'm not paying 2,000 reais either! So, I guess depending on what's included in the session, I'll settle anywhere from 1,000 to 1,500 reais at Scandallo. With pics and anal 1,200 max seems good at Gauguin and 1,000 reais at Casarao. Those are my max prices with pics [B]and[/B] anal. If those aren't included, then the price necessarily has to come down!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3089576]Did you take pics at Gaugin too? As you know, I have taken many, many pics over the years. I don't have as many from the clubs in Sao Paulo. When I first started going to Brazil, and during my early visits to Scandallo, I didn't have a smartphone. Instead, I had a little digital camera that took great pics (even a blind man could do it), but they would confiscate that and hold it at the door. So no pics. Well, I've had a smartphone for many years now, and they don't take that (I guess they have become too essential to people's lives), so I have my opening. Next time down, I'm going to go for some pics, no face of course. Asking for pics and anal, I'm sure I won't be able to get away with 1,000 reais at Scandallo. But, I'm not paying 2,000 reais either! So, I guess depending on what's included in the session, I'll settle anywhere from 1,000 to 1,500 reais at Scandallo. With pics and anal 1,200 max seems good at Gauguin and 1,000 reais at Casarao. Those are my max prices with pics [B]and[/B] anal. If those aren't included, then the price necessarily has to come down![/QUOTE]Yes I took pics and video at Gaugin as well. The girl was awesome. GFE fantastics. I fucked her in the ass every which way. I think we were in there for 1 HR & 1/2. I paid are $1500 for that.
She ate me out on all fours.
I want to go back ASAP.
God I miss that.