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[QUOTE=Canada;3065935]Please provide me with the name of one of the underage girls. You can't because there aren't any. So quit your lies. It is embarrassing.[/QUOTE]It's the conspiracy du jour for Democrats.
If you don't like that one, all these assassination attempts on Trump have been staged.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066052]There is zero evidence or testimony that Trump reported anything to anybody in authority about what he and everybody knew Epstein was up to. That is not what my link says and you know it. The link has Trump thanking the police for arresting Epstein. The link does not have him reporting it to anyone. Nor is there a link or report stating the FBI or other investigation agency found a shred of evidence that Trump reported anything about it to anyone.
My guess is he called the police after his closest friend for 10 years, Epstein, was arrested for his crimes in order to get a sense for anything they might have on him too.[/QUOTE]You supplied the evidence in your last post. The post confirmed Trump reported Epstein to the authorities. No other person reported Epstein as they were his Democrat friends. You posted it so live with it. Biden was president controlled congress, FBI and DOJ. They spent millions of dollars trying to find dirt on Trump but they couldn't find anything. If there was one bit of evidence implicating Trump, Biden's crooked FBI and DOJ would have found it. They had the documents for 4 years and could not find one bit of evidence. Some people gave common sense on issues like these. Some just have hate. There never has been a party of hate as the democrats are now. Not sure why you are trying to join that hate group.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066098]You supplied the evidence in your last post. The post confirmed Trump reported Epstein to the authorities. No other person reported Epstein as they were his Democrat friends. You posted it so live with it. Biden was president controlled congress, FBI and DOJ. They spent millions of dollars trying to find dirt on Trump but they couldn't find anything. If there was one bit of evidence implicating Trump, Biden's crooked FBI and DOJ would have found it. They had the documents for 4 years and could not find one bit of evidence. Some people gave common sense on issues like these. Some just have hate. There never has been a party of hate as the democrats are now. Not sure why you are trying to join that hate group.[/QUOTE]There is nothing in that link that says he called anyone to report anything. Please quote the exact sentence that you think you see the words, "I have something to report" or "I'd like to tell you about my closest friend for 10 years" or anything of the kind.
There are quotes from the police of Trump saying things in that link. None of them are about him filing a report or even mentioning something in passing that Epstein hadn't already been arrested for.
It gets even worse for your boy. :
There was a move by the Trump White House to bury the report that Trump called the police to talk about Epstein at all because his "everyone knew" confession destroys his cover story that he didn't have a clue what his closest friend for 10 years was up to with all the kiddie-diddling in all directions every time the two hung out together over those 10 long years.
[B]WATCH: White House won't confirm whether Trump called Palm Beach sheriff about Epstein.[/B]
[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-white-house-wont-confirm-whether-trump-called-palm-beach-sheriff-about-epstein[/URL]
Now, surely even you can figure out that if a phone call from Trump to the police had him reporting what his closest friend for 10 years was up to every time they hung out together Trump and his press secretary would be demanding that the file on that be released ASAP.
But, of course, they didn't.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066071]You'll have the proof when Trump's DOJ quits fucking around and releases everything they have. Did Pam Biondi say that she had them on her desk?[/QUOTE]Please explain why Biden's DOJ did not release the Epstein files in Biden 4 year presidency. Where were you 2 years ago condemning Biden DOJ? Your hate for Trump is the only reason you keep talking about it. Face the facts there is nothing in the files that implicate Trump. I just can't believe how the Democrat party has so much hate.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065838]BTW, whatever happened to MDS? As I recall he was certain his no doubt 3rd sucker vote for Trump would be the end of "globalization", that Trump was going to destroy China's growing influence on World Trade and all those other blatantly obvious Trump campaign lies. I hope he chimes in on this latest event to clarify whatever part of that I might have misremembered.
Regardless, there were whole bunches of MAGAs who sucker voted for Trump 3 times in order to get about as opposite the results that Trump has produced so far in 5 1/2 years as so-called president as it could possibly get.
Not only has Trump's 2nd Failed Trade and Tariffs War with China gifted China with the greatest Trade Surplus in its history and continued his first failed Trade and Tariffs War's effect of slamming American farmers and small businesses into near or outright bankruptcy and lost international customers for the survivors to China, but his current trip to China with hat in hand is Pro China Globalization on Steroids!
Where are the representatives of American farmers, small businesses, etc who might also enjoy a morsel or two of charity those Corporate CEOs are hoping to get from Xi?
[B]Chinas record trade surplus reveals its biggest strength and hidden weakness..
Booming Chinese exports have driven trade surplus past $1tn but also reveal the extent of country's reliance on foreign markets.[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/09/chinas-record-high-trade-surplus-reveals-the-difficulty-trump-will-have-in-rebalancing-global-economy[/URL]
No problem, really. Xi could count on limp-dick Trump to rush in with whatever disastrous Repub War Mongering blunders necessary to shore up that momentary Chinese weakness:
[B]China April exports rebound strongly, trade surplus widens ahead of Trump visit.
May 9, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-april-exports-rebound-strongly-trade-surplus-widens-ahead-trump-visit-2026-05-09/[/URL]
[B]Trump kicks off high-stakes summit with Xi.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/14/in-photos-trump-lands-in-beijing-ahead-of-high-stakes-summit-with-xi.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065709]
Oh look! Another Repub Trump's Liquor Cabinet member is working hard to create the next deadly, worldwide economy-destroying and hyper inflation-triggering Repub Pandemic:
[B]Experts worry 'we are not prepared' for pandemic under Trump, RFK Jr.[/B]
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2026/05/08/trump-rfk-jr-prepared-potential-pandemics/89991254007/[/URL]
Yeah, yeah, we already know what the MAGA response will be; "Hey, nobody could have predicted such a thing! It's just another wild coincidence! This new deadly, worldwide economy-destroying, hyper inflation-triggering Pandemic would have happened under any president including a Dem president"!
Uh. Nope.
And typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's predictable response? "Well, that Pandemic wasn't Trump's fault. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065529]Add these expert estimates of hundreds of thousands of deaths currently and millions and millions more deaths in the future to the millions of Trump's Mass Murder victim deaths he racked up already after one of his previous "defunding frenzy" efforts led directly to creating Trump's Pandemic.
See, unless Trump defunds these programs that have kept Americans and other people around the world alive, healthier and safer, where will his Trillions of Dollars in corporate welfare and more tax cuts for himself, his Crime Family and other billionaires come from?
[/QUOTE]Trump's Trade Wars were his second biggest fuckup. I don't believe he should have imposed massive tariffs on Chinese toys, textiles, consumer electronics and the like. They hurt them and they hurt us. And yes, they added to inflationary pressure.
Trump's huge mistake was not having his ducks in a row. The USA should have had alternative supplies of rare earth minerals and magnets on hand. It didn't, and now China has the USA by the balls. America's defense industry can't function without Chinese products. This is something that other USA Presidents, starting with Clinton, should have done something about. In the 1980's we had the lead in rare earth mining and processing. Our big rare earth mine was in California. Partly as a result of Democrats' "not in my backyard" mentality, and more importantly because of Chinese efficiency, we lost the lead. I'm a free trader, but you've got to have secure supplies of essential products. And Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden did nothing about that. And yes, Trump's the biggest dumb ass of the group, for launching a trade war against an "enemy" who was going to kick his ass because he didn't have the resources to wage the war.
That said, your belief that Trump's tariffs drove Chinese trade surpluses is just not true. China's trade surpluses would have grown regardless. And were they really that negative? The Chinese lived crappy lives, saved a lot, produced a lot, and sent us a lot of cheap stuff. We sent them paper (dollars) in return. We came out better.
I kind of agree with you about Robert F Kennedy Jr too. I'm not sure whether he's plain crazy or crazy like a fox. Has he cut back on mRNA vaccines, including for cancer treatment, and ceased recommending certain childhood vaccines because he's nutty? Or because he's doing the bidding of the plaintiff's bar, of which he's a member, which stands to make a butt load of money off suing vaccine makers and other big drug companies? Well, most plaintiff's lawyers are Democrats. And RFK, Jr. Is a Democrat. Hmm, sounds like a fox in a henhouse!
So my wild guess is crazy like a fox.
On the subject of Trump's alleged role in the origins of the pandemic and USA preparedness we really part company. I believe the USA had a grand total of ONE CDC epidemiologist in Beijing who was withdrawn before COVID. The Chinese probably had thousands. And China was extremely tight lipped about the pandemic. Before the lockdowns in Wuhan, Ro for the virus was around 5. 7, meaning each infected person was transmitting the virus to about 6 people. The total number of people infected was doubling every 2. 2 to 3. 3 days:
[URL]https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article[/URL]
The problem is that there was a comparatively long lag between when people were infected and when they showed symptoms. So there were a lot of Typhoid Mary's running around.
Remember Trumped stopped travel from China and Europe early on, and Biden accused him of xenophobia.
The last USA President before Trump who appreciated the harm that would come from a pandemic was George W. Bush. Bush built up a stockpile of over 100 million N95 masks. Under Obama that dropped to around 15 million and was never replenished.
I personally had about 40 N95 masks in 2020 when the pandemic hit, which I'd stockpiled since SARS around 2003. They came in handy. While Elvis was likely risking life and limb to bang sugar babies in Colombia almost for free in 2020, I was traveling secure, knowing my medical grade N95 respirator would protect me from come what may. If I'd been president we would have had billions of N95 masks stockpiled before COVID. Maybe I should run for president. Nah, the work of the Church of Tiny, bringing free market principles to you heathen, is too important to get distracted.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066234]Trump's Trade Wars were his second biggest fuckup. I don't believe he should have imposed massive tariffs on Chinese toys, textiles, consumer electronics and the like. They hurt them and they hurt us. And yes, they added to inflationary pressure.
Trump's huge mistake was not having his ducks in a row. The USA should have had alternative supplies of rare earth minerals and magnets on hand. It didn't, and now China has the USA by the balls. America's defense industry can't function without Chinese products. This is something that other USA Presidents, starting with Clinton, should have done something about. In the 1980's we had the lead in rare earth mining and processing. Our big rare earth mine was in California. Partly as a result of Democrats' "not in my backyard" mentality, and more importantly because of Chinese efficiency, we lost the lead. I'm a free trader, but you've got to have secure supplies of essential products. And Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden did nothing about that. And yes, Trump's the biggest dumb ass of the group, for launching a trade war against an "enemy" who was going to kick his ass because he didn't have the resources to wage the war.
That said, your belief that Trump's tariffs drove Chinese trade surpluses is just not true. China's trade surpluses would have grown regardless. And were they really that negative? The Chinese lived crappy lives, saved a lot, produced a lot, and sent us a lot of cheap stuff. We sent them paper (dollars) in return. We came out better.
I kind of agree with you about Robert F Kennedy Jr too. I'm not sure whether he's plain crazy or crazy like a fox. Has he cut back on mRNA vaccines, including for cancer treatment, and ceased recommending certain childhood vaccines because he's nutty? Or because he's doing the bidding of the plaintiff's bar, of which he's a member, which stands to make a butt load of money off suing vaccine makers and other big drug companies? Well, most plaintiff's lawyers are Democrats. And RFK, Jr. Is a Democrat. Hmm, sounds like a fox in a henhouse!
So my wild guess is crazy like a fox.
On the subject of Trump's alleged role in the origins of the pandemic and USA preparedness we really part company. I believe the USA had a grand total of ONE CDC epidemiologist in Beijing who was withdrawn before COVID. The Chinese probably had thousands. And China was extremely tight lipped about the pandemic. Before the lockdowns in Wuhan, Ro for the virus was around 5. 7, meaning each infected person was transmitting the virus to about 6 people. The total number of people infected was doubling every 2. 2 to 3. 3 days:
[URL]https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article[/URL]
The problem is that there was a comparatively long lag between when people were infected and when they showed symptoms. So there were a lot of Typhoid Mary's running around.
Remember Trumped stopped travel from China and Europe early on, and Biden accused him of xenophobia.
The last USA President before Trump who appreciated the harm that would come from a pandemic was George W. Bush. Bush built up a stockpile of over 100 million N95 masks. Under Obama that dropped to around 15 million and was never replenished.
I personally had about 40 N95 masks in 2020 when the pandemic hit, which I'd stockpiled since SARS around 2003. They came in handy. While Elvis was likely risking life and limb to bang sugar babies in Colombia almost for free in 2020, I was traveling secure, knowing my medical grade N95 respirator would protect me from come what may. If I'd been president we would have had billions of N95 masks stockpiled before COVID. Maybe I should run for president. Nah, the work of the Church of Tiny, bringing free market principles to you heathen, is too important to get distracted.[/QUOTE]The huge, glaring, fatal flaw in any critique of a Trump decision unfortunately "gone wrong" is the preposterous assumption and premise that he meant well, was trying to do the right thing for America, its economy, its national security, the American people, blah blah blah but, darn ut all, he just called it wrong or he didn't focus on it enough or his way of going about it was endearingly unfiltered and blunt but just you wait two weeks and it will all be clear what he was up to for the sake of the country or whateverthefuck excuse you people come up with when there is zero evidence that any decision, word or syllable that comes out of his pie-hole and that has ever come out of his pie-hole is meant to benefit anyone but himself, his Crime Family and possibly a few others in his circle to whom he owes big favors and the more damage and harm that befalls everyone else along the way, the better.
This is the MAGA Bill Maher take on it. Apparently. And that is what makes MAGA Bill Maher look and sound like a blithering, oblivious idiot regarding Trump.
The crap results Trump produces for everyone other than himself and his tight inner circle is THE feature and not a glitch. To Trump, the glitch is whenever something inadvertently winds up profiting anyone other than himself and his tight inner circle because that only demonstrates to him that he left something of value on the table that should have been his but somebody else reached out and scooped up those scraps first.
And, of course, you are wrong about Trump's supposed "travel ban" meant to prevent his Pandemic from doing whatever it damn well was going to do right under his disinterested nose anyway and what Biden did and didn't say about it. You apparently believed what Trump said about those things. But, as you and everyone else on the plant ought to know by now, Trump is a pathological liar:
[B]The Facts on Trumps Travel Restrictions.[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Trump has referred to the travel restrictions as a travel ban. There isnt an outright ban, as there are exceptions, including for Americans and their family members.
Trump said he was bold in imposing travel restrictions even though everybody said, its too early, its too soon and a lot of people that work on this stuff almost exclusively told him dont do it. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the decision stemmed from the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.
Trump said Democrats loudly criticized and protested his announced travel restrictions, and that they called me a racist because I made that decision. Trump is overstating Democratic opposition. None of the partys congressional leaders and none of the Democratic candidates running for president have directly criticized that decision, though at least two Democrats have.
Trump said the travel restrictions saved a lot of lives and reduced U.S. COVID-19 cases to a very small number. But experts say there isnt enough data to make that determination. A study in the journal Science found the various travel limitations across the globe initially helped to slow the spread, but the number of cases worldwide rose anyway because the virus had already begun traveling undetected internationally.
(And more)[/QUOTE][B]Trumps Misleading Comments on Biden and the Coronavirus.[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-misleading-comments-on-biden-and-the-coronavirus/[/URL]
[QUOTE]In July 14 remarks in the White House Rose Garden, President Donald Trump made a series of false, misleading and unsupported statements about the novel coronavirus and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Bidens position on it.
[Quote]Trump, July 14: Biden.opposed my very strict travel ban on Chinese nationals to stop the spread of the China virus. He was totally against it. Xenophobic, he called me. Xenophobic. A month later, he admitted I was right.
(See more)[/quote]
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[B]Biden supported China travel restrictions.[/b] Trump charged without evidence or elaboration that if he had listened to Biden, hundreds of thousands of additional lives would have been lost. We asked the White House what he was referring to, but it provided no response, nor did the Trump campaign.
It seems likely the president was referring to the travel restrictions, since he said that Biden opposed my very strict travel ban. In fact, Biden took no position on the China restrictions when they were implemented.
On March 12, Biden tweeted:
[Quote]A wall will not stop the coronavirus.
Banning all travel from Europe or any other part of the world will not stop it.
This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet and we need a plan to combat it.
7:05 AM Mar 13, 2020[/quote]
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[B]Biden called Trump xenophobic. [/b]Trump is right that Biden called him xenophobic. But Biden didnt make clear why he said that. The Biden campaign has said that was not in connection with the China travel restrictions.
As we have written, on the day the White House announced the restrictions, Biden said at a campaign event in Iowa that as the pandemic unfolds, Americans need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. He added, This is no time for Donald Trumps record of hysteria and xenophobia hysterical xenophobia and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.
The Biden campaign says Bidens reference to xenophobia was about Trumps long record of scapegoating others at a time when the virus was emerging from China, and that he was not talking about the travel rules.[/QUOTE]Even the memes characterizing Trump as "dumb" misses the point that, for example, he knew Xi was not just referring to anything that happened under Biden re the "decline" of America but under Trump too. Trump knew. He simply lied about it, that's all.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066197]Please explain why Biden's DOJ did not release the Epstein files in Biden 4 year presidency. Where were you 2 years ago condemning Biden DOJ? Your hate for Trump is the only reason you keep talking about it. Face the facts there is nothing in the files that implicate Trump. I just can't believe how the Democrat party has so much hate.[/QUOTE]The difference is the Epstein files release is a law that Congress passed and Trump signed into law. This was not the case in Biden Administration. I know being a convict and all it's difficult for Trump to follow the law. He's struggling.
You sign a bill that becomes law it is binding on you. Please have Trump release the said files expeditiously!
Trumo went into China this week limping and sempering to "Chairman" Xi. It reminded me of the opening scene in Godfather when the undertaker asks Vito Corleone to give him justice for his daughter. He gets scolded and begs the Godfather for help and kissing the ring finger.
It was embarrassing and made America look weak. He let Xi dress him down about China's policy against Taiwan.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066234]I kind of agree with you about Robert F Kennedy Jr too. I'm not sure whether he's plain crazy or crazy like a fox. Has he cut back on mRNA vaccines, including for cancer treatment, and ceased recommending certain childhood vaccines because he's nutty? Or because he's doing the bidding of the plaintiff's bar, of which he's a member, which stands to make a butt load of money off suing vaccine makers and other big drug companies? Well, most plaintiff's lawyers are Democrats. And RFK, Jr. Is a Democrat. Hmm, sounds like a fox in a henhouse![/QUOTE]LOL, One of the things that kills me with the provaxx crowd is they think they are rational. First off, vaccine manufacturers have legal immunity. They were given legal immunity because even they admitted how a given person reacts to vaccines was so unpredictable.
The way to think about infections is as a war. You have the guys who are usually good which are your antibodies, and the bad guys which are the pathogens. The immune system is your defense. So if the enemy is coming in at war in airplanes, you show the immune system a fake plane, and it reacts and makes anti-aircraft guns.
Just like industrial capacity and war, if you focus on anti-aircraft guns, you are not producing material protecting you from naval and land attacks. And just like with war, your anti-aircraft guns can result in friendly fire, the death of tissue attacked by your immune system. Of course, you would think that if a virus is known to attack by air, and you have anti-aircraft guns, you would assume that they work to fight the disease. Well, you would be wrong. All a vaccine manufacturer has to do is prove their vaccine produces the guns. They do not have to prove the guns actually work.
Why would the guns not work? Well, this is war, and some of the pathogens overcome and adapt. That was the problem with the Covid vaccine. When the virus mutated, the vaccines no longer worked. Even the vaccine manufacturers admitted that.
To be provaxx then is to say it is acceptable to mandate a treatment with no proven benefit but proven risk. That is not rational to me.
Instead of lighting up the sky willy nilly, it makes a helluva lot more sense to identify a pathogen in a sick person. IOW, you know it is plane attacking you. You have anti-aircraft guns made outside of the body, and you only use them when you know when someone is sick and when someone is infected with a given pathogen or in this case of this analogy, you know that it is aircraft attacking you.
The notion that vaccines cannot cause autism is bird brained too. All defense items are not equal when it comes to friendly fire, and strep antibodies may be the worst with bad friendly fire. I hope you never see a case of Pandas, [URL]https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/pandas[/URL]#text=Pediatric%20 Autoimmune%20 Neuropsychiatric%20 Disorders%20 Associated%20 with%20 Streptococcal%20 Infections%20 (PANDAS).
If you see a kid who is fine one day, gets a strep infection and goes full blown autistic the next, you will never forget it. PANDAS are strep antibodies attacking the brain. This is friendly fire of the worst kind. The idea that vaccine antibodies cannot cause autism but natural ones can is stupidity of the highest order. They are the EXACT same thing.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066234]While Elvis was likely risking life and limb to bang sugar babies in Colombia almost for free in 2020, I was traveling secure, knowing my medical grade N95 respirator would protect me from come what may.[/QUOTE]LOL. And you are not doing it now? So to use my analogy, are you saying there are no pathogens attacking in the air today? Because that is totally wrong. And you are saying N95 masks have no side effects? Again, that is totally wrong. There has been a study or two that N95 masks work with regards to influenza but none shown to work with Covid. So here we go again. You are advocating spending money on resources with proven risk and no proven benefit and leaving yourself broke and unable to pay for therapies proven to work. That makes no sense.
Unlike the fake heterosexual HIV crisis and the fake prescription opioid crisis, at least Covid had real victims and sick people. That said, for myself, I estimated the risk of dying on a trip to be about one in a thousand which is about the same as drowning. So my risk going to Colombia was the same as going swimming in the ocean.
In reality, isolation DID increase the death rate from suicide early on in the crisis, and the odds of dying by your own hand are one in 85. So here we go again. Generalized Isolation carried a known risk and I would argue it offered no benefit. Of course, isolating yourself from people known to be sick would be a different matter.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066234]The problem is that there was a comparatively long lag between when people were infected and when they showed symptoms.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do not buy that. One study showed only 9% of asymptomatic Covid patients were potentially infectious. Well, that is great, but what does asymptomatic mean? It is a new virus. You have no idea what all the symptoms even are. If you wanted to cash in on the vaccine payouts, you would greatly exaggerate asymptomatic Covid, and asymptomatic transmission did not match my personal reality. I cannot recal one time a person was sick with Covid and did not know who or where they got it from. Not one.
Thing is you had all this mass screenings. If you personally saw a thousand people get swabbed and none had Covid at the height of the pandemic, and you NEVER saw anyone test + for Covid and was asymptomatic, you would be skeptical too.
And if you had what I had in Colombia in 2020 and could not see said women, well hell, I guarantee you would be depressed too.
Self explanatory foto attached.
There always seem to be members on all political forums who tout China. Just like we have people defending Russian aggression or Ukrainian independence.
China is a great nation with a great economic success story. However, economists will tell you economies don't beat the natural-occurring economic cycles. The Chinese governments are furiously spending and investing to avoid the inevitable recession. The longer this is forestalled the longer and / or more severe the recession.
Some Sinophiles call this Western capitalism and say it doesn't apply to China. The reality of economic cycles has hit every nation that embarked on rapid industrialization. Japan, Brazil and yes even the Soviet Union. It's not Western capitalism it is simply the law of economics. It has no nationality or philosophy.
Now I think the trade war with China was inevitable as they continued to expand their export sector. It's not just the United States. Europe is increasingly concerned with Chinese mercantilism.
I see many are trying to assess the Chinese situation versus the United States and the rest of the world in real time. Even if my words above don't register, I can tell you it's futile trying to read what's happening in a nation that is secretive and not above publishing inaccurate or incomplete economic data. So gentlemen, we don't know what is happening to the Chinese economy. I will grant you China has shiny, new airports though.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066261]The difference is the Epstein files release is a law that Congress passed and Trump signed into law. This was not the case in Biden Administration. I know being a convict and all it's difficult for Trump to follow the law. He's struggling.
You sign a bill that becomes law it is binding on you. Please have Trump release the said files expeditiously![/QUOTE]Get over it. They never are going to implicate Trump with Epstein. There is nothing there. If you are so obsessed with an issue like this you must lead a miserable life. I feel sorry for you. There are so many good things in life to think about rather than obsessed on an issue like this. We didn't obsess about Biden destroying America or Trudeau destroying Canada because life is to short for that.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066260]The huge, glaring, fatal flaw in any critique of a Trump decision unfortunately "gone wrong" is the preposterous assumption and premise that he meant well, was trying to do the right thing for America, its economy, its national security, the American people, blah blah blah but, darn ut all, he just called it wrong or he didn't focus on it enough or his way of going about it was endearingly unfiltered and blunt but just you wait two weeks and it will all be clear what he was up to for the sake of the country or whateverthefuck excuse you people come up with when there is zero evidence that any decision, word or syllable that comes out of his pie-hole and that has ever come out of his pie-hole is meant to benefit anyone but himself, his Crime Family and possibly a few others in his circle to whom he owes big favors and the more damage and harm that befalls everyone else along the way, the better.
This is the MAGA Bill Maher take on it. Apparently. And that is what makes MAGA Bill Maher look and sound like a blithering, oblivious idiot regarding Trump..[/QUOTE]Obviously you have no clue of what the tariffs do to a countries economy. Almost every country in the world uses tariffs to stabilize their economy and to protect the labor force in their country. In the past 40 years Europe, China, Canada have charged tariffs on USA products in some cases up to 100% when USA had limited tariffs on these countries. In the past 40 years when countries like China flooded the market with steel products high tariffs were enforced for several years by different presidents. Trump is the only president who is actually trying to get fair tariffs with every country. Remember every country is putting tariffs on USA products. Canada for one has tariffed USA from to eliminate USA products from entering Canada. Now Canada has a real problem has the agreements expire May 31,2026 and 86% of Canada exports to USA are going to be tariffed. Carney has to start kissing Trumps ass quickly or our economy is destroyed. 88% of Canada exports go to USA. Some companies have already left Canada and moved across the border to USA because they have no confidence in Carney. Thank god you have a president like Trump that will look after the USA companies and the USA citizens. From I see he is the first president to really care about American people and jobs. If you aren't smart enough to understand this so be it. America is winning. Canada is losing. If you really are American you should be happy.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066234]Trump's Trade Wars were his second biggest fuckup. I don't believe he should have imposed massive tariffs on Chinese toys, textiles, consumer electronics and the like. They hurt them and they hurt us. And yes, they added to inflationary pressure.
Trump's huge mistake was not having his ducks in a row. The USA should have had alternative supplies of rare earth minerals and magnets on hand. It didn't, and now China has the USA by the balls. America's defense industry can't function without Chinese products. This is something that other USA Presidents, starting with Clinton, should have done something about. In the 1980's we had the lead in rare earth mining and processing. Our big rare earth mine was in California. Partly as a result of Democrats' "not in my backyard" mentality, and more importantly because of Chinese efficiency, we lost the lead. I'm a free trader, but you've got to have secure supplies of essential products. And Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden did nothing about that. And yes, Trump's the biggest dumb ass of the group, for launching a trade war against an "enemy" who was going to kick his ass because he didn't have the resources to wage the war.
That said, your belief that Trump's tariffs drove Chinese trade surpluses is just not true. China's trade surpluses would have grown regardless. And were they really that negative? The Chinese lived crappy lives, saved a lot, produced a lot, and sent us a lot of cheap stuff. We sent them paper (dollars) in return. We came out better.
I kind of agree with you about Robert F Kennedy Jr too. I'm not sure whether he's plain crazy or crazy like a fox. Has he cut back on mRNA vaccines, including for cancer treatment, and ceased recommending certain childhood vaccines because he's nutty? Or because he's doing the bidding of the plaintiff's bar, of which he's a member, which stands to make a butt load of money off suing vaccine makers and other big drug companies? Well, most plaintiff's lawyers are Democrats. And RFK, Jr. Is a Democrat. Hmm, sounds like a fox in a henhouse!
So my wild guess is crazy like a fox.
On the subject of Trump's alleged role in the origins of the pandemic and USA preparedness we really part company. I believe the USA had a grand total of ONE CDC epidemiologist in Beijing who was withdrawn before COVID. The Chinese probably had thousands. And China was extremely tight lipped about the pandemic. Before the lockdowns in Wuhan, Ro for the virus was around 5. 7, meaning each infected person was transmitting the virus to about 6 people. The total number of people infected was doubling every 2. 2 to 3. 3 days:.[/QUOTE]Yes China trade surplus is the largest in the world and thanks to presidents like Obama and Biden USA had huge trade deficits. These trade deficits destroyed manufacturing jobs in USA over the last few decades. Trump is the first president to actually address this. Weak presidents like Obama and Biden let China flood our country with cheap products forcing USA companies to try to compete. China exports are subsidized by the Chinese government and They don't care if they lose money as long as they can destroy the completion. It made it difficult for USA companies to compete or raise wages. With the tariffs we see some products going up a little but USA workers are getting the benefit of it. Wages are up and several countries have committed Billions to move their manufacturing to USA including Canada. In the next year USA economy is going to soar and everyone will see the benefits of these tariffs. Short term pain for saving America jobs. But unfortunately there are the few that hate America and would rather buy Chinese junk products rather than support Americans. Can't believe there are so many on this site supporting China and Iran and demonizing USA.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3066289]LOL, One of the things that kills me with the provaxx crowd is they think they are rational. First off, vaccine manufacturers have legal immunity. They were given legal immunity because even they admitted how a given person reacts to vaccines was so unpredictable.
The way to think about infections is as a war. You have the guys who are usually good which are your antibodies, and the bad guys which are the pathogens. The immune system is your defense. So if the enemy is coming in at war in airplanes, you show the immune system a fake plane, and it reacts and makes anti-aircraft guns.
Just like industrial capacity and war, if you focus on anti-aircraft guns, you are not producing material protecting you from naval and land attacks. And just like with war, your anti-aircraft guns can result in friendly fire, the death of tissue attacked by your immune system. Of course, you would think that if a virus is known to attack by air, and you have anti-aircraft guns, you would assume that they work to fight the disease. Well, you would be wrong. All a vaccine manufacturer has to do is prove their vaccine produces the guns. They do not have to prove the guns actually work.
Why would the guns not work? Well, this is war, and some of the pathogens overcome and adapt. That was the problem with the Covid vaccine. When the virus mutated, the vaccines no longer worked. Even the vaccine manufacturers admitted that.
To be provaxx then is to say it is acceptable to mandate a treatment with no proven benefit but proven risk. That is not rational to me.
Instead of lighting up the sky willy nilly, it makes a helluva lot more sense to identify a pathogen in a sick person. IOW, you know it is plane attacking you. You have anti-aircraft guns made outside of the body, and you only use them when you know when someone is sick and when someone is infected with a given pathogen or in this case of this analogy, you know that it is aircraft attacking you.
The notion that vaccines cannot cause autism is bird brained too. All defense items are not equal when it comes to friendly fire, and strep antibodies may be the worst with bad friendly fire. I hope you never see a case of Pandas, [URL]https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/pandas[/URL]#text=Pediatric%20 Autoimmune%20 Neuropsychiatric%20 Disorders%20 Associated%20 with%20 Streptococcal%20 Infections%20 (PANDAS).
If you see a kid who is fine one day, gets a strep infection and goes full blown autistic the next, you will never forget it. PANDAS are strep antibodies attacking the brain. This is friendly fire of the worst kind. The idea that vaccine antibodies cannot cause autism but natural ones can is stupidity of the highest order. They are the EXACT same thing.
LOL. And you are not doing it now? So to use my analogy, are you saying there are no pathogens attacking in the air today? Because that is totally wrong. And you are saying N95 masks have no side effects? Again, that is totally wrong. There has been a study or two that N95 masks work with regards to influenza but none shown to work with Covid. So here we go again. You are advocating spending money on resources with proven risk and no proven benefit and leaving yourself broke and unable to pay for therapies proven to work. That makes no sense.
Unlike the fake heterosexual HIV crisis and the fake prescription opioid crisis, at least Covid had real victims and sick people. That said, for myself, I estimated the risk of dying on a trip to be about one in a thousand which is about the same as drowning. So my risk going to Colombia was the same as going swimming in the ocean.
In reality, isolation DID increase the death rate from suicide early on in the crisis, and the odds of dying by your own hand are one in 85. So here we go again. Generalized Isolation carried a known risk and I would argue it offered no benefit. Of course, isolating yourself from people known to be sick would be a different matter.
Yeah, I do not buy that. One study showed only 9% of asymptomatic Covid patients were potentially infectious. Well, that is great, but what does asymptomatic mean? It is a new virus. You have no idea what all the symptoms even are. If you wanted to cash in on the vaccine payouts, you would greatly exaggerate asymptomatic Covid, and asymptomatic transmission did not match my personal reality. I cannot recal one time a person was sick with Covid and did not know who or where they got it from. Not one.
Thing is you had all this mass screenings. If you personally saw a thousand people get swabbed and none had Covid at the height of the pandemic, and you NEVER saw anyone test + for Covid and was asymptomatic, you would be skeptical too.
And if you had what I had in Colombia in 2020 and could not see said women, well hell, I guarantee you would be depressed too.[/QUOTE]Apologies Elvis, my reference to you was intended to be a compliment combined with humor. Obviously it didn't come off that way. You wrote some great reports in the Seeking thread about Colombia during COVID that I enjoyed reading. When I'd get to Mexico after 9 hours solid wearing a medical grade 3 M N95 mask I'd have red marks all over my face and be darn uncomfortable. You on the other hand probably arrived fresh as a daisy.
I've looked at a lot of papers on masks -- statistical and epidemiological studies, descriptions of the physics and chemistry of how N95 masks work with aerosols and droplets, and a couple where they'd put mask material (or not for the control group) between a laboratory rat with COVID and one that was healthy. I'm convinced respirator masks work. Yeah, in the real world, maybe the decrease in probability of infection might be 50% or 60%. But when you wore them the right way and consistently, like I did when appropriate before I got the COVID vaccines, I believe the probability goes up to 80% I usually get 2 or 3 colds a year. I don't believe I got a single cold for about 2 years. And yeah, to this day, when I'm not around people I know, I'll mask up in an airport or on a plane when people are coughing or sneezing. Not because of COVID but because I don't want to get sick.
No, I don't believe the "side effects" of N95 masks, from oxygen deprivation or whatever, for someone like me outweighed the benefits. Yeah, for a nurse in an infectious disease ward who wears one 8 hours a day, possibly. But I doubt it. Distance runners and swimmers go to places like Mexico City to train. People live at high altitudes and they're probably healthier than average.
You're probably younger than I am. A male my age in 2020 had a shade above a 1% probability of dying if he contracted COVID. The odds were probably better for me as I was in good shape for my age and, contrary to what the Marquesa believes, not overweight. But 1% is significant. Your probability of dying in an auto accident during your lifetime is about 1%. If you're smart, you'll wear seatbelts, regardless of whether the law requires it. I had an opportunity to climb a volcano in Mexico but didn't because I figured the probability I'd die on it was about 0. 4%. A person Tooms age not living in a place like Thailand would have had a much higher probability of death from COVID than I did. Which perhaps is the reason you weren't paranoid about COVID, and I was, and Tooms apparently doubly was.
I did know 3 people who died of COVID. Two were in their late 70's or 80's. One was only about 5 years older than me, but was overweight and a heavy drinker. A good friend's cousin died from it in his 20's, but I believe he was overweight too. Finally, to be fair, one of my best friends may have been one of the 1 in 100,000 or 1,000,000 cases who died from the COVID vaccine. The doctors at UT Southwest thought there was a greater than 50% probability the vaccine activated a rare immunological disorder.
As to vaccines and autism, I'm no expert, so won't attempt to debate it with you. I believe however there's no cause and effect and it's something the trial lawyers including RFK Jr. Cooked up, with the help of a few physicians like Andrew Wakefield (who allegedly published fraudulent work), to make money. They did something similar with silicone breast implants, putting Dow Corning out of business.
As to the COVID vaccine, yes, the effectiveness did go way down in preventing infection, but it still reduced the probability of hospitalization and death substantially.
And around the beginning of 2022 as I recall, Paxlovid came out. Paxlovid is analogous to using anti-aircraft guns when you know you're being attacked by planes, from your explanation. It's highly effective at reducing death and hospitalization too. That doesn't mean I'm going to give up on getting boosters. Yes, there are risks, and perhaps thousands died in the USA from COVID vaccines. But it's a numbers game and if you're my age or older the vaccines make sense.
When I came down with COVID for the first and only time I know of, maybe about 3 years into the pandemic, it wasn't nearly as bad as a common cold. Probably part of the reason was I got my boosters and took Paxlovid.
Looking back, I agree with you about isolation. Where we don't agree are masks. I believe they were a tool that helped negate the argument for isolation. BTW, I don't believe government should have mandated masks or vaccines. But also I don't believe businesses, especially hospitals and assisted living facilities and the like, should have been prevented from requiring them for employment.
Finally, again, from the CDC article, COVID cases were doubling in Wuhan every 2. 2 to 3. 3 days. Symptomatic or asymptomatic, with that rate of spread there's not a lot Trump or the USA or the WHO could have done to prevent the epidemic from become a pandemic.
I'm having hell using the website lately so if you come back with something and I don't reply that's most likely why. I had to paste this one into an email and then copy to the site on my cell phone.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066341]Get over it. They never are going to implicate Trump with Epstein. There is nothing there. If you are so obsessed with an issue like this you must lead a miserable life. I feel sorry for you. There are so many good things in life to think about rather than obsessed on an issue like this. We didn't obsess about Biden destroying America or Trudeau destroying Canada because life is to short for that.[/QUOTE]If there's nothing to hide them why won't the DOJ release them? That's what you get when you peddle conspiracy theories like Obama not being an American. That was nonsense but no one stopped Trump from pursuing it.
Yes, you want to change the subject when you know there's teenaged girl under 18 in Epstein Files that is connected to Trump. Otherwise, there would be no reason to stonewall. It's coming out sooner or later!
Americans not interested in living under Authoritarian Rule are leaving Trump's New Order in droves.
But but but how will they know what's going on in America anymore when they are living so far away from it? Gee, I guess the same way Lincoln knew what was going on in Virginia even though he lived in the White House. Only faster, more accurately and with audio and video from all sides including overhead via drones.
[B]Americans are leaving the U.S. in record numbers, spending hundreds to learn how.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/17/americans-are-leaving-the-united-states-in-record-numbers-spending-hundreds-to-learn-how.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE][b]A record number of Americans are leaving the U.S.: The country saw a net negative migration of between 10,000 and 295,000 people in 2025[/b], according to research from The Brookings Institution. The widest estimated range was among people who left voluntarily, with Brookings estimating that between 210,000 to 405,000 people did so last year.
[B]Its the first time in at least 50 years that more people moved out of the country than moved in.[/b] Restrictive immigration policies and deportation efforts play a role, according to Brookings. Some U.S. citizens are emigrating for school, work, raising a family, retirement and everything in between.
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[B]A majority, 89%, said they want to leave the U.S. for political reasons,[/b] according to a sampling of 218 of the weekends attendees, per Barnett. Others say they hope to move for adventure and growth (73%), as well as to save money (57%).
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Like many of his fellow conference attendees, Derr says[b] political reasons are a major reason for his familys potential U.S. exit.[/b]
He points to recent policies affecting reproductive rights, like the Supreme Courts decision to remove the federal constitutional right to abortion, as well as its rulings weakening the Voting Rights Act, which he considers signals that the country is going backwards. Meanwhile, he says, Mexicos 2024 election of Claudia Sheinbaum, the countrys first female president, and federally mandated gender equality laws align with the values he and Yeastadt are seeking.[/QUOTE]There was apparently no mention of the difficulty in figuring out pronouns, fear of their son getting his penis chopped off, of their daughter getting her budding breasts chopped off or of immigrants eating their cats and eating their dogs being a reason for fleeing America.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066412]Americans not interested in living under Authoritarian Rule are leaving Trump's New Order in droves.
But but but how will they know what's going on in America anymore when they are living so far away from it? Gee, I guess the same way Lincoln knew what was going on in Virginia even though he lived in the White House. Only faster, more accurately and with audio and video from all sides including overhead via drones.
[B]Americans are leaving the U.S. in record numbers, spending hundreds to learn how.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/17/americans-are-leaving-the-united-states-in-record-numbers-spending-hundreds-to-learn-how.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
There was apparently no mention of the difficulty in figuring out pronouns, fear of their son getting his penis chopped off, of their daughter getting her budding breasts chopped off or of immigrants eating their cats and eating their dogs being a reason for fleeing America.[/QUOTE]It is great! Amazing! All these democrats and socialists leaving the greatest country to live in a shithole country. Perfect. Hopefully a few million more democrats leave. USA getting better every day when the scum leave.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066409]If there's nothing to hide them why won't the DOJ release them? That's what you get when you peddle conspiracy theories like Obama not being an American. That was nonsense but no one stopped Trump from pursuing it.
Yes, you want to change the subject when you know there's teenaged girl under 18 in Epstein Files that is connected to Trump. Otherwise, there would be no reason to stonewall. It's coming out sooner or later![/QUOTE]Amazing you are so worried about the girls in the Epstein files but you don't give a crap about the 300,000 minors that were sex trafficked across the border under the Biden administration. I guess you aren't concerned about all the democrat sanctuary cities that are protecting these sex traffickers of minors from being prosecuted and deported. I guess you are just a Trump hater that fantasizes about the possibility of there being something in the Epstein files. But there isn't. You don't give a shit about all the minors being sexually trafficked by Biden's buddies because you only hate Trump. Sick!
[QUOTE=Canada;3066465]It is great! Amazing! All these democrats and socialists leaving the greatest country to live in a shithole country. Perfect. Hopefully a few million more democrats leave. USA getting better every day when the scum leave.[/QUOTE]Then who will carry the load and pay the bills for deadbeat Republicans in deadbeat Republican Red States in order to continue making America the greatest country?
[B]AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states.
Dec. 9 2017[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxes-ap-top-news-politics-2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c[/URL]
[QUOTE]
WASHINGTON (AP) Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.
[b]An Associated Press Fact Check finds its actually the other way around. High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) in a big way.[/b][/QUOTE][B]How the GOP Tax Bill Still Leaves Blue States Picking Up the Check.
May 17, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/7286199/trump-tax-bill-salt/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The total net differential between federal tax receipts from states and federal dollar contributions to states from 2018 to 2022 amounted to a [b]more than $1 trillion transfer payment from blue to red states.[/b] In 2017, Republicans used the SALT cap to place even more of the federal receipts tax burden on blue states. The Joint Committee on Taxation estimated the SALT cap raised federal revenue by $78 billion for the 2019 tax year, [b]most of which fell on blue states.[/b]
Over a similar five-year period, that annual $78 billion amounts to nearly $400 billion, or close to 40% of the total transfer payment. [B]Four blue states are responsible for 50% of the estimated increase in federal tax revenues from the SALT cap: California (25.1%), New York (16.8%), New Jersey (6.4%), and Illinois (4.2%). Forty of the top 50 districts most affected by the SALT cap are in New York, California, New Jersey, and Illinois.[/b][/QUOTE]As a property / business-owning Californian, I offer you deadbeat Republican MAGAs in deadbeat Republican Red States a heartfelt "you're welcome"!
Even though I used my California employment income, benefits and investment income along with my Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden USA Stock Market gains and FDR retirement insurance income in order to retire at a relatively early age to enjoy the 2nd half in an exotic land with good food, comfortable warm-to-hot year 'round weather, lots of places to explore and sweet young ladies who appreciate men like me, I assure you I keep up with what is happening in my home country and still vote in every state, local and federal election for which I am registered to vote. Just as I am sure all the other expats who are now fleeing America in record numbers will continue to do as well.
The demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site's poll of polls consensus is showing Trump with a greater than 50% Disapproval on every issue they deem worthy of asking about except one. The only change is that one is on Crime, although he still maintains a clear plurality Disapproval on that issue too at greater than 49%.
He is now even under water at a greater than 50% Disapproval on the issue of the Israel-Hamas War.
But on the biggies like his overall Job Approval, The Economy, Inflation, etc, it is clear more and more MAGAs are joining normal people in getting a better understanding indeed of what across-the-board tariffs for no intelligent reason do to a country's economy. Their country. America. And they sure as hell don't like it. LOL. Can we presume that even MAGA brains are not too pea-sized to notice none of the $1. 66 Billion refunds for Trump's illegal and miserably failed trade and tariffs War is going to China? Nope. It is going to Americans in America, the people whose money was stolen by con man Trump with his illegal, failed across-the-board tariffs.
Oh well.
We tried.
Hmm. Trump appears to be maneuvering to have American tax-payers fund his private army of violent cop-attacking, maiming and killing, wannabe assassins, America-hating Insurrectionists to the tune of $1. 776 Billion, or so I have heard. Note the amount? Yeah. This is Trump and his America-hating fellow Repub MAGAs in Congress' sick and twisted way of honoring and celebrating the 250th Birthday of the United States of America while "owning the libs" in fine Repub MAGA fashion.
Oh, and then there is that new outbreak of Ebola that Trump had already, say it with me, "defunded and removed" many of the teams that Obama had successfully set up to monitor, prevent and respond to in a timely manner, thereby laying the groundwork for Ebola to potentially develop into the 2nd term Trump's Pandemic.
But those are topics for another time. For now, note the skyrocketing Disapproval for Trump moving right along in sync with the skyrocketing Preference for Dems to control Congress in a few months:
[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066577]Then who will carry the load and pay the bills for deadbeat Republicans in deadbeat Republican Red States in order to continue making America the greatest country?
[B]AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states.
Dec. 9 2017[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxes-ap-top-news-politics-2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c[/URL]
[B]How the GOP Tax Bill Still Leaves Blue States Picking Up the Check.
May 17, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/7286199/trump-tax-bill-salt/[/URL]
As a property / business-owning Californian, I offer you deadbeat Republican MAGAs in deadbeat Republican Red States a heartfelt "you're welcome"!.[/QUOTE]If you didn't make more in Trumps first year in the market then you have very little in the market. Markets are at all time highs. Everyone I know had their best year in the market in 2025. Anyone who lost money in 2025 or made less than the Obama or Biden first year in the market is more than a fool.
As for the California business owners that you brag about all live in red states now with the rest of the millionaires and billionaires.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066577]Then who will carry the load and pay the bills for deadbeat Republicans in deadbeat Republican Red States in order to continue making America the greatest country?
[B]AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states.
Dec. 9 2017[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxes-ap-top-news-politics-2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c[/URL]
[B]How the GOP Tax Bill Still Leaves Blue States Picking Up the Check.
May 17, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/7286199/trump-tax-bill-salt/[/URL]
As a property / business-owning Californian, I offer you deadbeat Republican MAGAs in deadbeat Republican Red States a heartfelt "you're welcome"!
Even though I used my California employment income, benefits and investment income along with my Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden USA Stock Market gains and FDR retirement insurance income in order to retire at a relatively early age to enjoy the 2nd half in an exotic land with good food, comfortable warm-to-hot year 'round weather, lots of places to explore and sweet young ladies who appreciate men like me, I assure you I keep up with what is happening in my home country and still vote in every state, local and federal election for which I am registered to vote. Just as I am sure all the other expats who are now fleeing America in record numbers will continue to do as well.[/QUOTE]That's extremely deceptive and you know it. Your deflection, "I'm too dumb to understand Simpson's Paradox," doesn't cut it, because you're not. Republicans pay a lot more federal tax and receive back less, as a % of what they pay, than Democrats.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060532]Here's what Gemini Deep Research says, as to its estimates of federal tax rates borne by Democrats vs. Republicans for the last 8 presidential elections, based on exit polls. Please note that party affiliation was based on who the respondent voted for President. So when Trump ran, there were a lot of upper income, highly taxed Republicans who didn't vote for him. They would show up as Democrats or "other" in the polls.
Average estimated tax rates:
1996 Democrat: 9. 2% Republican: 17.5%.
2000 Democrat: 9. 8% Republican: 16.2%.
2004 Democrat: 8. 5% Republican: 15.4%.
2008 Democrat: 10.1% Republican: 14.8%.
2012 Democrat: 7. 4% Republican: 18.2%
2016 Democrat: 11.5% Republican: 13.9%.
2020 Democrat: 12.8% Republican: 12.1%.
2024 Democfrat: 16.1% Republican: 11.4%.
So people voting for the Republican presidential candidate paid a lot more than their fair share up through the 2012 election. In 2016 they paid somewhat more. In 2020 the numbers were about equal. And in 2024 people voting for Kamala Harris paid a lot more than their fair share.
Basically, the poor and middle class in America were so fed up with Biden's idiotic economic policies that they voted for Trump in 2024. While upper income Americans were so fed up with Trump they voted for Harris. I of course voted for Chase Oliver, armed and gay!
State and local taxes are irrelevant to the question at hand, which is whether Republicans or Democrats contribute more per person to the federal government. Undoubtedly Californians on average pay more in total taxes, state, local and federal, than residents of other states, because of their greedy and profligate state and municipal governments. Yes indeed, blue state residents pay more taxes than red state residents. And that's why they're moving to red states.
Here's the complete report. I didn't read it.
[URL]https://gemini.google.com/share/cea9a3e7c785[/URL]
Click the down arrows for links to supporting web pages.
P.S. Ellie Mae never would have fucked you. You're too liberal.[/QUOTE]
Repub Trump keeps proving how right I was to immediately conclude the only reason he plunged America into another Repub quagmire, counterproductive, forever War of Choice in the Middle East based on Repub lies was to pay back the neighboring country's leaders who wished for it for that sweet bribe of a $400 Million airliner from Qatar, the sweet bribe in $Billions to him and hus Crime Family from UAE and Saudi Arabia and, most of all, Netanyahu, whose accurate calculation that his delaying to honor the May 2024 Biden-negotiated ceasefire until after the November 2024 election would stoke enough anti-Biden Administration animosity among the Muslim Community of voters in the only 3 swing states that mattered into shifting as little as 0.75 of a single percentage point of their votes away from their usual Democratic candidate preference to Trump and thereby be solely responsible for Trump's razor-thin squeaker of an election win.
So for this Repub War it must then be left to those Trump Crime Family bribers and benefactors to set and schedule America's war actions. However, there is one holdout on fully telling Trump when not to attack and get people on both sides killed; Netanyahu. I suspect he would prefer an attack on Iran every day and is not pleased when Trump is not further depleting America's air power and capabilities so he can spare a few of his own.
[B]Trump says he's postponing Iran attack at Middle East leaders' request.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/18/trump-iran-attack-saudi-uae-qatar-deal.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]President Donald Trump said he is calling off a plan to attack Iran on Tuesday after the heads of three regional powers in the Middle East asked him to "hold off. ".
Trump said he received requests from [b]Qatari Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and United Arab Emirates President Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan. [/b].
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Cain should still "be prepared to go forward with a full, large scale assault of Iran, on a moment's notice, in the event that an acceptable Deal is not reached," Trump said. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066636]That's extremely deceptive and you know it. Your deflection, "I'm too dumb to understand Simpson's Paradox," doesn't cut it, because you're not. Republicans pay a lot more federal tax and receive back less, as a % of what they pay, than Democrats.[/QUOTE]Nobody's talking about individual Repub billionaires who can only drive one car on a Blue State funded interstate highway, drink one glass of clean water, eat one FDA inspected meal, receive one Social Security check or Medicare reimbursement no higher than 1000 other load-bearing Democrats.
We're talking about exactly what my links stated; Blue States managed primarily by Dems carrying the load for Red states managed primarily by Repubs. You know, the characterization that no Blue State-bashing Winger was ever confused about or inspired to nit-pick every potential nuance and subtlety about until Real News reports started coming out about Blue States acually being the ones keeping America afloat while Red States kick back and bash them for it. Then it was suddenly "hominahominaSimpsonhominahomina"!
The fact that Repubs in any state haven't spread their deadbeat agenda to enjoy the benefits funded by taxes without their money to pay for those benefits being "stolen", you know the drill on that one very well I know, by evil tax collectors to every district, county and state in the country is beside the point.
I am a tax-payer from one of those 4 Blue States that carry 50% of the load cited for the entire USA. In fact, the one that carries more of the load than any of the other 4!
Are you?
You're welcome.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066670]Nobody's talking about individual Repub billionaires who can only drive one car on a Blue State funded interstate highway, drink one glass of clean water, eat one FDA inspected meal, receive one Social Security check or Medicare reimbursement no higher than 1000 other load-bearing Democrats.
We're talking about exactly what my links stated; Blue States managed primarily by Dems carrying the load for Red states managed primarily by Repubs. You know, the characterization that no Blue State-bashing Winger was ever confused about or inspired to nit-pick every potential nuance and subtlety about until Real News reports started coming out about Blue States acually being the ones keeping America afloat while Red States kick back and bash them for it. Then it was suddenly "hominahominaSimpsonhominahomina"!
The fact that Repubs in any state haven't spread their deadbeat agenda to enjoy the benefits funded by taxes without their money to pay for those benefits being "stolen", you know the drill on that one very well I know, by evil tax collectors to every district, county and state in the country is beside the point.
I am a tax-payer from one of those 4 Blue States that carry 50% of the load cited for the entire USA. In fact, the one that carries more of the load than any of the other 4!
Are you?
You're welcome.[/QUOTE] Those billionaire Republicans are leaving blue states in droves because, yes, blue state politicians do a better job of stealing from their billionaire Republicans than red state politicians. Over 41 percent of the billionaire wealth in California has already left or will if the wealth tax is passed. Texas already has a higher after tax GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power than California, and at this rate it wont be long before Texans are paying more federal tax, unfortunately.
Now that you're retired and living the dream in Thailand, I can guarantee I'm carrying a hell of a lot more of the load than you are. And not getting back over a few percent of what I put in.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066670]Nobody's talking about individual Repub billionaires who can only drive one car on a Blue State funded interstate highway, drink one glass of clean water, eat one FDA inspected meal, receive one Social Security check or Medicare reimbursement no higher than 1000 other load-bearing Democrats.
We're talking about exactly what my links stated; Blue States managed primarily by Dems carrying the load for Red states managed primarily by Repubs. You know, the characterization that no Blue State-bashing Winger was ever confused about or inspired to nit-pick every potential nuance and subtlety about until Real News reports started coming out about Blue States acually being the ones keeping America afloat while Red States kick back and bash them for it. Then it was suddenly "hominahominaSimpsonhominahomina"!
The fact that Repubs in any state haven't spread their deadbeat agenda to enjoy the benefits funded by taxes without their money to pay for those benefits being "stolen", you know the drill on that one very well I know, by evil tax collectors to every district, county and state in the country is beside the point..[/QUOTE]That may be true in Fantasy Land but not in USA. Obviously you have no clue and just make this crap up as you go along. I don't think there is one intelligent person on this site that thinks anything you say is true. You are a typical socialist lefty that has under performed in life and is looking to blame it on the right. The democrat party is in total disarray and is a joke.
So once those Repub billionaires migrate to their Deadbeat Repub Nirvana Red States, who will pay the taxes that keep the most important States re economic benefit to America, virtually all Blue and especially California, going? Will Blue States have to increase taxes on middle and lower income Americans to make up for the Deadbeat Billionaires rushing from one Deadbeat Repub Red State to another searching for the Free Ride of their Deadbeat Repub dreams?
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066706][b]Those billionaire Republicans are leaving blue states in droves because, yes, blue state politicians do a better job of stealing from their billionaire Republicans than red state politicians.[/b] Over 41 percent of the billionaire wealth in California has already left or will if the wealth tax is passed. Texas already has a higher after tax GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power than California, and at this rate it wont be long before Texans are paying more federal tax, unfortunately.
[B]Now that you're retired and living the dream in Thailand, I can guarantee I'm carrying a hell of a lot more of the load than you are. And not getting back over a few percent of what I put in.[/b][/QUOTE]Hey, welcome to my world for my entire working and investing life. That's what I was doing in California for the 50 years before I retired. And I was ok with that because I loved America and was happy to contribute more for less return for my tax dollar since it was a waste of time waiting for Deadbeat Repub Red State residents to pony up their share of the load.
Yet I somehow still managed to have a relatively prosperous and happy working life and now retirement with all those Blue State "thieves" stealing my money to keep America afloat where Deadbeat Red States won't. Relative to the bottom of the rung Red State retirees, that is.
Sorry to hear those poor put upon Deadbeat Repub Billionaires can't cut it in California as well as a decidedly non Billionaire patriotic American like me did without breaking much of a sweat. Then again, I was too busy working real jobs to spend all my time scurrying from one state to another looking for a free ride.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066467]Amazing you are so worried about the girls in the Epstein files but you don't give a crap about the 300,000 minors that were sex trafficked across the border under the Biden administration. I guess you aren't concerned about all the democrat sanctuary cities that are protecting these sex traffickers of minors from being prosecuted and deported. I guess you are just a Trump hater that fantasizes about the possibility of there being something in the Epstein files. But there isn't. You don't give a shit about all the minors being sexually trafficked by Biden's buddies because you only hate Trump. Sick![/QUOTE]If that were true how come Republicans didn't do anything about. It's quite rich to hear you bleating about sex trafficking when Trump's best buddy Epstein for 10 years was an inveterate scumbag sex trafficker. Those two were palling around over a decade ay Mar-A-Lago and god know where else.
Under Trump's "leadership" the DOJ sent Epstein enabler and co-conspirator Maxwell to a luxury "prison" camp where her clothes are dry cleaned and guards wait on her with diet cokes unavailable to anyone staying there.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066619][b]More and more MAGA suckers are figuring out they got conned [/b]
The demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site's poll of polls consensus is showing Trump with a greater than 50% Disapproval on every issue they deem worthy of asking about except one. The only change is that one is on Crime, although he still maintains a clear plurality Disapproval on that issue too at greater than 49%.
He is now even under water at a greater than 50% Disapproval on the issue of the Israel-Hamas War.
But on the biggies like his overall Job Approval, The Economy, Inflation, etc, it is clear more and more MAGAs are joining normal people in getting a better understanding indeed of what across-the-board tariffs for no intelligent reason do to a country's economy. Their country. America. And they sure as hell don't like it. LOL. Can we presume that even MAGA brains are not too pea-sized to notice none of the $1. 66 Billion refunds for Trump's illegal and miserably failed trade and tariffs War is going to China? Nope. It is going to Americans in America, the people whose money was stolen by con man Trump with his illegal, failed across-the-board tariffs.[/QUOTE]Yes, the MAGA Fuhrer's illegal and criminal $10 bn dollar scam to pay himself, was and is an obvious shock and awe grift, to sucker taxpaying Americans into thinking after proposing $10 bn, the $1. 77 bn doesn't seem so bad. The $10 bn was no doubt was just a pretext, to soften the vile and disgusting criminal attempt to pay MAGA insurrectionists.
But as MAGA Fuhrer continues to pilfer, taxpayer's coffers for his own means and gains, I can't help but think it's an criminal homage to Mormon fundamentalist criminals and organized crime, who are well known for "Bleeding the Beast".
The term [B]"Bleeding the beast", was used by some Mormon fundamentalist groups,[/B] particularly within polygamous sects like the Kingston clan (The Order), to describe the practice of collecting government assistance such as welfare, WIC, and food stamps, to financially support their communities. It is seen as a way to exploit state resources.
This was later adopted by criminal organizations and is a unique, ideological form of racketeering where the goal is not merely profit, but the sustainability of a criminal, anti-government organization through the systemic theft of public assets.
[B]"Bleeding the Beast"[/B] is seen by practitioners as a way to [B]"bring the government down"[/B] by draining it of resources.
So while [I]"Everything Trump touches turns to SHIT!...",[/I] he apparently has the nerve and audacity to collect government welfare and food stamps, while doing it.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3066394]Apologies Elvis, my reference to you was intended to be a compliment combined with humor. Obviously it didn't come off that way.[/QUOTE]LOL. I guess that I am little sensitive on the matter. It is nothing personal. I made a rational decision based on fact and observation and am reaping the benefits of that decision to this day.
I guess what bugs me so much is that the people who were so fucking stupid with Covid think they were so smart. And of all the stupid shit on Covid, the worst was turning it into a red-blue matter. Why anyone would waste their time on studies saying Democrats were less likely to die of Covid than Republicans is beyond me.
I am skeptical of study designs and proving a preventive measure. For example, if you are in a city of a million people and half have Covid, you may be able to show that wearing masks is beneficial. If only one in a million has it, then it is impossible to show that it is of benefit.
Thing is the NFL did the best studies on masks I saw. What they saw is that if you talked to someone with Covid for over 5 minutes without a mask, you were at risk for getting Covid. If you wore a mask, the time it took to transmit the virus went up dramatically. To me, the universal take away was to keep your conversations short while speaking in person versus everyone wearing masks and what bugged me about is the most likely place to speak for over 5 minutes unmasked was at the family dinner table. If you are going to go in on masking, then you need to go all the way or not at all and emphasize the short conversations. And sure enough, the most common place Covid was transmitted was in the home.
With Covid, there was all this emphasis on "doing something" and way to little on determining if that something actually worked.
As the United States and China compete for dominance in artificial intelligence, energy is emerging as a critical battleground.
In just five short years, [B]China has added more power capacity across all energy technologies than the United States[/B] has built in its entire history, and that gap is only growing over the next five years. China plans to add more than 3. 4 terawatts of energy generation capacity, nearly six times as much as the US.
[B]Chinas Secret Superpower in the AI Race,[/B] Feb 5th, 2026 [URL] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-02-05/china-s-energy-buildout-is-its-ai-superpower-in-race-with-the-us[/URL] China, isn't just some "Johnny-come-lately", and is doomed to fail, as some would have you believe, but for years have had solid planning in place, developing their economic, manufacturing, technological and electrotech prowess at a rate that is extraordinary.
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/whoopi-goldberg-argues-america-de-balled-unserious-world-stage[/URL]
Well yes, the left and the right has been.
The middle will always hold and win.
God Bless America and MAGA.
Libertarians burn in HELL.
And just like that, Trump and his MAGA Cult no longer care about high gas prices.
Here is a quote I made up as I went along of Trump declaring the price of gas thanks solely to his plunging America into another Repub, quagmire, counterproductive War of Choice in the Middle East based on Repub lies to be mere "peanuts" compared to the threat of a nuclear attack from Iran that he himself facilitated by tearing up the Iran Nuclear Deal in 2017, twice, right before he immediately, say it with me, "defunded and removed" the inspectors, thereby allowing Iran to do anything it damn well pleased unmonitored for the next 9 years.
[B]Trump Calls High Gas Prices Peanuts as Economic Approval Rating Plunges.
May 19, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-joe-biden-gas-prices-11968147[/URL]
And below you will see screenshots of the statements from AAA and a chart from Gas Buddy, both of which I made up as I went along, showing that the average price of a gallon of regular gas in the USA today is higher than it was at any time under Biden except for less than about 2 months way back in 2022 when it only maxed out for a few hours at as much as about $0. 49 more than "peanuts" according to Repub MAGA Cult Leader Trump.
Of course, if anyone has been paying attention to the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that they and I have made up as we went along you would know that while gas was only briefly slightly higher under Biden, his economy was also creating millions more private-sector jobs than all three Repub presidents' economies combined, including Trump, vs now while Trump's BLS jobs creation numbers are typically Repub crap and his Trump Tariffs and Iran War Gas Prices inflation rate is not only exceeding the increase in wages but even before his Bribery Payback Iran War of Choice wages were seeing the weakest gains in 2025 of the previous 5 years.
All reports BLS made up as they went along at my request, of course.
[B]Jobs Growth Under Trump Even More Dismal Than Originally Thought.
Feb. 11, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobs-growth-under-trump-even-180031639.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Instead of 584,000 jobs, or 49,000 jobs per month on average, the economy added just 181,000 jobs last year, for an average of 15,000 jobs per month, according to the Bureau of Labor Statisticss latest jobs report released Wednesday.[/QUOTE][B]Low-wage workers faced worsening affordability in 2025 as wage growth stalled.
Feb. 11, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.epi.org/blog/low-wage-workers-faced-worsening-affordability-in-2025/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Real wages declined 0.3% for low-wage workers in 2025, a stark departure from the unusually strong wage gains they had experienced over the previous five years.
This reversal was not inevitableit was caused by policy decisions that weakened the labor market.
Meanwhile, middle- and high-wage workers saw modest wage growth in 2025.
Low- and middle-wage workers have suffered from decades of slow and suppressed wage growth. To improve affordability, policymakers can and must raise wages. [/QUOTE]Oh, and there is also a screenshot of the skyrocketing Disapproval Ratings for Trump the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP and I made up as we went along strongly suggesting more and more Americans are reading these things I make up as I go along and believing them.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066731]If that were true how come Republicans didn't do anything about. It's quite rich to hear you bleating about sex trafficking when Trump's best buddy Epstein for 10 years was an inveterate scumbag sex trafficker. Those two were palling around over a decade ay Mar-A-Lago and god know where else.
Under Trump's "leadership" the DOJ sent Epstein enabler and co-conspirator Maxwell to a luxury "prison" camp where her clothes are dry cleaned and guards wait on her with diet cokes unavailable to anyone staying there.[/QUOTE]Your lies about Trump & Epstein are getting old. Only a fool would believe you. The sex traffickers Biden let into the USA are slowly getting arrested and deported by ice even with the democrats doing everything in their power to protect the sex traffickers, murderers and rapists with their sanctuary cities. Yes the sanctuary cities are protecting the sex traffickers and even the democrats in congress are doing everything in their power to stop ice from deporting these criminals. You must not live in the USA as you seem to know nothing about what is happening in America. It seems like you only report fake news from those communist fake news sites.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066715]So once those Repub billionaires migrate to their Deadbeat Repub Nirvana Red States, who will pay the taxes that keep the most important States re economic benefit to America, virtually all Blue and especially California, going? Will Blue States have to increase taxes on middle and lower income Americans to make up for the Deadbeat Billionaires rushing from one Deadbeat Repub Red State to another searching for the Free Ride of their Deadbeat Repub dreams?
Hey, welcome to my world for my entire working and investing life. That's what I was doing in California for the 50 years before I retired. And I was ok with that because I loved America and was happy to contribute more for less return for my tax dollar since it was a waste of time waiting for Deadbeat Repub Red State residents to pony up their share of the load.
Yet I somehow still managed to have a relatively prosperous and happy working life and now retirement with all those Blue State "thieves" stealing my money to keep America afloat where Deadbeat Red States won't. Relative to the bottom of the rung Red State retirees, that is.
Sorry to hear those poor put upon Deadbeat Repub Billionaires can't cut it in California as well as a decidedly non Billionaire patriotic American like me did without breaking much of a sweat. Then again, I was too busy working real jobs to spend all my time scurrying from one state to another looking for a free ride.[/QUOTE]California is broke and is a disgrace to America. It is a drain on the federal government and is delinquent on repaying their Covid loans. Only thing keeping California blue is the illegals voting which will never stop with out voter ID.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066715]So once those Repub billionaires migrate to their Deadbeat Repub Nirvana Red States, who will pay the taxes that keep the most important States re economic benefit to America, virtually all Blue and especially California, going? Will Blue States have to increase taxes on middle and lower income Americans to make up for the Deadbeat Billionaires rushing from one Deadbeat Repub Red State to another searching for the Free Ride of their Deadbeat Repub dreams?
Hey, welcome to my world for my entire working and investing life. That's what I was doing in California for the 50 years before I retired. And I was ok with that because I loved America and was happy to contribute more for less return for my tax dollar since it was a waste of time waiting for Deadbeat Repub Red State residents to pony up their share of the load.
Yet I somehow still managed to have a relatively prosperous and happy working life and now retirement with all those Blue State "thieves" stealing my money to keep America afloat where Deadbeat Red States won't. Relative to the bottom of the rung Red State retirees, that is.
Sorry to hear those poor put upon Deadbeat Repub Billionaires can't cut it in California as well as a decidedly non Billionaire patriotic American like me did without breaking much of a sweat. Then again, I was too busy working real jobs to spend all my time scurrying from one state to another looking for a free ride.[/QUOTE]Liberal deadbeats in California take more from the government than they ever pay to the government. If you had a company and employed any amount of people you would not be a liptard. I can guarantee you that you never had 1000 employees in a blue state and made millions and paid millions in taxes. If so you would not hate America like you do. You would have been a California Republican. If you worked for someone for 50 years you would be a Democrat. That is the truth. You proved your investing knowledge when you made less money in Trump first year than in Biden or Obama year. If you didn't have your best year ever in 2025 you are not in the market.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3066768][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/whoopi-goldberg-argues-america-de-balled-unserious-world-stage[/URL]
Well yes, the left and the right has been.
The middle will always hold and win.
God Bless America and MAGA.
Libertarians burn in HELL.[/QUOTE]That's ok he got us part of the Epstein Files the rest will come later!
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066775]And just like that, Trump and his MAGA Cult no longer care about high gas prices.
Here is a quote I made up as I went along of Trump declaring the price of gas thanks solely to his plunging America into another Repub, quagmire, counterproductive War of Choice in the Middle East based on Repub lies to be mere "peanuts" compared to the threat of a nuclear attack from Iran that he himself facilitated by tearing up the Iran Nuclear Deal in 2017, twice, right before he immediately, say it with me, "defunded and removed" the inspectors, thereby allowing Iran to do anything it damn well pleased unmonitored for the next 9 years.
[B]Trump Calls High Gas Prices Peanuts as Economic Approval Rating Plunges.
May 19, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-joe-biden-gas-prices-11968147[/URL]
And below you will see screenshots of the statements from AAA and a chart from Gas Buddy, both of which I made up as I went along, showing that the average price of a gallon of regular gas in the USA today is higher than it was at any time under Biden except for less than about 2 months way back in 2022 when it only maxed out for a few hours at as much as about $0. 49 more than "peanuts" according to Repub MAGA Cult Leader Trump.
Of course, if anyone has been paying attention to the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that they and I have made up as we went along you would know that while gas was only briefly slightly higher under Biden, his economy was also creating millions more private-sector jobs than all three Repub presidents' economies combined, including Trump, vs now while Trump's BLS jobs creation numbers are typically Repub crap and his Trump Tariffs and Iran War Gas Prices inflation rate is not only exceeding the increase in wages but even before his Bribery Payback Iran War of Choice wages were seeing the weakest gains in 2025 of the previous 5 years..[/QUOTE]Yes Trumps ratings are a little lower but still twice as high as Shumer or rest of the incompetent democrats in congress. Democrats ratings lowest in history of the party which makes Trump ratings look great.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3066768][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/whoopi-goldberg-argues-america-de-balled-unserious-world-stage[/URL]
Well yes, the left and the right has been.
The middle will always hold and win.
God Bless America and MAGA.
Libertarians burn in HELL.[/QUOTE]And McConnell.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066781]Liberal deadbeats in California take more from the government than they ever pay to the government. If you had a company and employed any amount of people you would not be a liptard. I can guarantee you that you never had 1000 employees in a blue state and made millions and paid millions in taxes. If so you would not hate America like you do. You would have been a California Republican. If you worked for someone for 50 years you would be a Democrat. That is the truth. You proved your investing knowledge when you made less money in Trump first year than in Biden or Obama year. If you didn't have your best year ever in 2025 you are not in the market.[/QUOTE]How did all those people become Billionaires in California before they decided to take the Billions they made in California and scurry from state to state searching for their Repub MAGA Deadbeat Agenda Free Ride?
I'll give you time to collude with Tiny12 to see if there is a "hominahominaSimpsonhominahomina" nuance or subtlety to apply to whatever MAGA Math you need to blame Joe Biden for your shocking reply.
Repub Trump, his supporters and everyone who could have but did not vote for Clinton in 2016, Biden in 2020 and Harris in 2024 obviously hates America, the Rule of Law, the USA Constitution, historic recoveries from Great Repub Depressions and Great Repub Recessions, private-sector jobs creation, a stronger and safer National Security and promoting freedom and democracy around the world.
But they sure do loves them some cop-killers and kiddie-diddlers and will go to extraordinary lengths to defend and protect them, pardon and reward them with millions and millions of dollars:
[B]Jan. 6 rioter pardoned by Trump gets life sentence for child sex crimes.
Andrew Paul Johnson promised one of his victims money he expected to receive from the Justice Department, authorities said.
March 6, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-pardoned-trump-jan-6-case-gets-life-sentence-child-sex-cr-rcna261963[/URL]
[QUOTE]Andrew Paul Johnson was arrested in August, nine months after Trump pardoned him and hundreds of other Jan. 6 defendants for crimes ranging from low-level misdemeanors to felony charges like assaulting officer with deadly weapons.
Johnson, 45, was convicted last month of five charges, including molesting a child under 12 and another under 16, as well as transmitting harmful materials by electronic device to a minor.
..........
Johnson told one of the victims that he would see a windfall from the government after his pardon and that he would put the victim in his will to take any leftover money, according to law enforcement.
Trump has discussed the possibility of taxpayer-funded payouts for Jan. 6 defendants. The Justice Department already gave out just under $5 million to the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot as she jumped through a broken window leading into the House Speakers Gallery.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3066768][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/whoopi-goldberg-argues-america-de-balled-unserious-world-stage[/URL]
Well yes, the left and the right has been.
The middle will always hold and win.
God Bless America and MAGA.
Libertarians burn in HELL.[/QUOTE]He voted with Trump 99% of the time but terrified Trump by demanding all of the Epstein files be released.
Any time a proven winning Repub Congressman gets booted out in a primary it's a good thing for the country. So some blithering inexperienced Repub will either get defeated in November or serve in an utterly useless minority starting next year. All good.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066794]Yes Trumps ratings are a little lower but still twice as high as Shumer or rest of the incompetent democrats in congress. Democrats ratings lowest in history of the party which makes Trump ratings look great.[/QUOTE]Most Americans disapprove of the job Trump is doing on every issue that even the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics deems worth asking about so much they are willing to vote for another Party with low approval numbers just to put the breaks on his horrific policy and management results.
See, the poll ratings aren't "elections". They only tell you who will probably win an election within a normal +/-Margin of Error. In this case, at a 7 point advantage over Trump's Party, the Dems are poised to do quite well against Trump's Party this November.
No guarantee. I mean, Dems can't over come every election rigging scheme Trump and his Party pull every time and while they are throwing everything at this one. But the probabilities do favor Dems even if their Approval Ratings were 0%.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066778]Your lies about Trump & Epstein are getting old. Only a fool would believe you. The sex traffickers Biden let into the USA are slowly getting arrested and deported by ice even with the democrats doing everything in their power to protect the sex traffickers, murderers and rapists with their sanctuary cities. Yes the sanctuary cities are protecting the sex traffickers and even the democrats in congress are doing everything in their power to stop ice from deporting these criminals. You must not live in the USA as you seem to know nothing about what is happening in America. It seems like you only report fake news from those communist fake news sites.[/QUOTE]You call yourself "Canada" and have the audacity to question if I am an American? Who are you trying to kid. It's you who isn't an American as no one would refer to himself as "Canada" if they were American. Perhaps, you think Trump will still make an attempt to buy Canada? I wonder how that went over with King Charles.
It's accepted that Trump and Epstein pursued underaged teenagers over a decade. Don't be fooled by these fake assassination attempts created by FAUX News and Trump to get sympathy and a 1 billion dollar taxpayer ballroom that we don't need.
Gotion High-Tech (Tangshan and Hefei in mainland China), having has recently fully battle tested, validated and proved their newly launched "Gnascent" sodium-ion (Na-ion) battery, they now have established, gigawatt-hour (GWh) scale commercial production lines.
Their groundbreaking Na-ion high-energy variant, achieves an unprecedented energy density of 261 Wh / kg, surpassing CATL's Naxtra sodium-ion battery's 170 Wh / kg. That's is about 60% more than other Na-ion batteries and many LFP batteries. Gnascent Na-ion, exceeds 20,000 cycles and can maintain 88% capacity at -40 see.
[B]VW-backed Gotion launches Gnascent sodium-ion battery,[/B] March 18th, 2026. [URL]https://autotechinsight.spglobal.com/news/5288335/vw-backed-gotion-launches-gnascent-sodium-ion-battery[/URL].
As [NOPARSE]China's electrotech gets better and better, the trend is clear...it's a "no brainer", switching from U.S./Israeli bonehead war-torn-middle eastern, Epstein file pedo sympathizers and "drill-baby-drill", fossil fuel feuds, to more sustainable, energy security, cleaner, greener energy and [/NOPARSE]electrotech.
[B]2026, The Year of the Battery[/B]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066861]You call yourself "Canada" and have the audacity to question if I am an American? Who are you trying to kid. It's you who isn't an American as no one would refer to himself as "Canada" if they were American. Perhaps, you think Trump will still make an attempt to buy Canada? I wonder how that went over with King Charles.
It's accepted that Trump and Epstein pursued underaged teenagers over a decade. Don't be fooled by these fake assassination attempts created by FAUX News and Trump to get sympathy and a 1 billion dollar taxpayer ballroom that we don't need.[/QUOTE]It is not accepted that Trump and Epstein were even friends. He was the only one to report Epstein to the authorities. Do you really think Trump would report Epstein if Epstein could incriminate him? None of Epstein real friends the democrats reported him. But his Democrat friends allowed Biden to sex traffic 300,000 illegals into USA and now continue to block Trump from catching these predators. Obviously you do not care about the 300,000 because Trump is trying to free them. Your priorities indicate you are anti American. Your posts indicate you are anti American. So I also assume that too.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066802]Repub Trump, his supporters and everyone who could have but did not vote for Clinton in 2016, Biden in 2020 and Harris in 2024 obviously hates America, the Rule of Law, the USA Constitution, historic recoveries from Great Repub Depressions and Great Repub Recessions, private-sector jobs creation, a stronger and safer National Security and promoting freedom and democracy around the world.
But they sure do loves them some cop-killers and kiddie-diddlers and will go to extraordinary lengths to defend and protect them, pardon and reward them with millions and millions of dollars:
[B]Jan. 6 rioter pardoned by Trump gets life sentence for child sex crimes.
Andrew Paul Johnson promised one of his victims money he expected to receive from the Justice Department, authorities said.
March 6, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-pardoned-trump-jan-6-case-gets-life-sentence-child-sex-cr-rcna261963[/URL][/QUOTE]Quit your fake news. The world knows the democrats with their sanctuary cities and anti ice protests are the only party in USA protecting the pedafiles and sex traffickers every day. Trump and republicans are doing everything in their power to arrest, prosecute and deport these sex offenders and murderers and democrats are protecting them daily. How can you even dispute this? Nobody is that out of touch on what is happening in USA.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066800]How did all those people become Billionaires in California before they decided to take the Billions they made in California and scurry from state to state searching for their Repub MAGA Deadbeat Agenda Free Ride?
I'll give you time to collude with Tiny12 to see if there is a "hominahominaSimpsonhominahomina" nuance or subtlety to apply to whatever MAGA Math you need to blame Joe Biden for your shocking reply.[/QUOTE]There is no way you could understand how hard work, investing in business or being an entrepreneur can make you millions or billions. Don't need math to figure out working hard gets you ahead. The deadbeat liberals are looking for the easy jobs, less hours and free handouts that California provides rather than working hard. Most people understand that. I understand that you don't. But hard working people do understand this.
Yes Trumps ratings are a little lower but still twice as high as Shumer or rest of the incompetent democrats in congress. Democrats ratings lowest in history of the party which makes Trump ratings look great.
I guess Trump have to go into his pocket (fat chance) to fund the permanent damage to White House!
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ballroom-won-t-funded-senate-201509216.html[/URL]
Since everyone loves polls and charts for gas prices so much even though few if any MAGAs post actual links or screenshots of either lately, I thought it would be nice if somebody updated a few poll numbers and a gas price statement / chart or two today.
First of all, AAA is now showing the average price of a gallon of regular gas in the USA today at $4. 55, higher than the one I posted just yesterday, and Gas Buddy Gas Station Prices Local & National is now posting a chart showing that price is higher today under Trump than at any time under Biden except for what looks to be about 6-7 weeks way back in mid-2022, during which it maxed out for just a few hours at about $0. 47 more than it is today. Which certainly falls within Donald Trump's characterization of a price as "peanuts" for every American with the probable exception of those poor put upon Billionaires who made their Billions in California and then suddenly realized they just can't cut it in California and must scurry from state to state searching for the ultimate and perennial Deadbeat Repub State of Nirvana, The Deadbeat Repub Free Ride.
Please see the screenshots that AAA, Gas Buddy and I made up as we went along just to make Trump look bad below.
And on the subjects of Party Favorability, Trump's Job Approval / Disapproval and Party Preference for Control of Congress, please see the link below and the screenshots further below showing Trump's Disapproval Rating and Preference for Dems to Control Congress continuing to increase over what I posted just yesterday and the Party Favorabily Ratings really matching for Dems and Repubs well within a tiny fraction of a normal +/-Margin of Error.
Although you will find in the link that the only Part Leader that rates a Favorable rating much lower than his Dem counterpart, well beyond a normal +/-Margin of Error, is John Thune, the apparent Repub Majority Leader in the Senate. His Favorability Rating is much lower than that of Chuck Schumer, his Dem Party counterpart in the Senate. But that could be because few people have even heard of your typical Deadbeat Know Nothing, Deadbeat Do Nothing Repub Congressional Leader while typically pro Repub Mainstream Media loves to name, slam and bash any and every Dem Congressional Leader who has been instrumental in pulling America out of every Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession, shouldering all the heavy lifting and assuming all the political risk to do so over the past 100 years or so.
[URL]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/leader-and-party[/URL]
Again, demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP and I just made up the info you'll find in that link and on those screenshots as we went along, as fellow poster Canada astutely noticed and pointed out recently, just to make Trump look bad. But I thought some of you might enjoy reading and seeing what we made up out of the blue just for the hell of it anyway. That is, if all the screenshots of the charts and ratings we all made up as we went along just to make Trump look bad show up posted. Sometimes they don't. But rest assured if you go to the RCP link you will find the charts we made up as we went along just to make Trump look bad anyway.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066892]Yes Trumps ratings are a little lower but still twice as high as Shumer or rest of the incompetent democrats in congress. Democrats ratings lowest in history of the party which makes Trump ratings look great.
I guess Trump have to go into his pocket (fat chance) to fund the permanent damage to White House!
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ballroom-won-t-funded-senate-201509216.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Factoring in what Trump was planning to do with the Billion plus he would have pocketed from that ballroom scam and the $1.776 Billion he and his Repub Party are setting aside to reward and fund America-hating, kiddie-diddling, cop-killing Repub MAGA Insurrectionists, the Repub Party is now indisputably and officially the single biggest sponsor of domestic American terrorism and kiddie-diddling on the planet!
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3066913]Factoring in what Trump was planning to do with the Billion plus he would have pocketed from that ballroom scam and the $1.776 Billion he and his Repub Party are setting aside to reward and fund America-hating, kiddie-diddling, cop-killing Repub MAGA Insurrectionists, the Repub Party is now indisputably and officially the single biggest sponsor of domestic American terrorism and kiddie-diddling on the planet![/QUOTE]Another anti America rant. Why do you hate USA so much?
Another anti America rant. Why do you hate USA so much?
Why do you love Canada so much?
[QUOTE=Canada;3066885]It is not accepted that Trump and Epstein were even friends. He was the only one to report Epstein to the authorities. Do you really think Trump would report Epstein if Epstein could incriminate him? None of Epstein real friends the democrats reported him. But his Democrat friends allowed Biden to sex traffic 300,000 illegals into USA and now continue to block Trump from catching these predators. Obviously you do not care about the 300,000 because Trump is trying to free them. Your priorities indicate you are anti American. Your posts indicate you are anti American. So I also assume that too.[/QUOTE]How do you explain the many trips he made to Mar-A-Lago? The time they spent palling around in NYC? They took photos together and pursued underaged teenagers. This was ongoing for over a decade. That's a lot time to spend with someone if you weren't buddies is it not?
When will Trump release the Epstein Files and I don't mean the nude photos of the minors? How many times do we have to ask?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066983]How do you explain the many trips he made to Mar-A-Lago? The time they spent palling around in NYC? They took photos together and pursued underaged teenagers. This was ongoing for over a decade. That's a lot time to spend with someone if you weren't buddies is it not?
When will Trump release the Epstein Files and I don't mean the nude photos of the minors? How many times do we have to ask?[/QUOTE]Please provide me the evidence that Epstein and Trump had these meetings. Provide the dates and photos of Epstein and Trump with these teenage girls for all these visits or just admit you made it up. If you can't provide dates and photos you are a liar. I can say the same thing about you and all your meetings with Epstein and the photos of you and Epstein with underage girls and I can post it everyday on this site but it doesn't make it true. Don't you have a life? Do you know there is no cure for TDS so you are screwed. Your hate is typical of the democrats these days.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3066982]Another anti America rant. Why do you hate USA so much?
Why do you love Canada so much?[/QUOTE]I love Canada but I don't like Carnay. He is just like Biden and will ruin Canada economy. I am not going to stoop to all time lows and make up lies about him on this site. That would just be classless, disgusting and stupid to lie about him. Not sure why you do it.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066953]Another anti America rant. Why do you hate USA so much?[/QUOTE]The fact is Trump wants to reward and set up an ongoing payment system to reward fully adjudicated kiddie-diddling, violent anti-America, cop-attacking insurrectionists for their crimes.
And every time the Republican Party tries to put Billions of dollars in Trump's pocket they are rewarding the man who led that violent mob of kiddie-diddling insurrectionists into bloody battle on American soil to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate a few duly-elected officials along the way, including his own Vice President, an adjudicated sexual assault predator and confessed facilitator of kiddie-diddling and trafficking whose only contact with authorities about the crimes for which his closest friend for 10 years was arrested and convicted was never to report his crimes but to "thank" them for arresting him and to confess that he knew about those crimes being committed for years but told no one in authority about it.
Oh, BTW, I'm adding a few screenshots of data that RCP, AAA, Gas Buddy and I just made up as we went along to make Trump look bad showing his Disapproval and the Preference for Dems to control Congress inching up even further than in my previous post as well as the average price of a gallon of regular gas and that it is higher today under Trump than at any time under Biden except for about 7 weeks in mid-2022 and then at a maximum of only $0. 46 for a few hours, or as Trump characterizes it, "peanuts"!
[QUOTE=Canada;3066997]I love Canada but I don't like Carnay. He is just like Biden and will ruin Canada economy. I am not going to stoop to all time lows and make up lies about him on this site. That would just be classless, disgusting and stupid to lie about him. Not sure why you do it.[/QUOTE]You love Canada? But your Trump wants to fuck them, like Greenland, Ukraine, Mexico, Venezuela. No peace with Trump, just lies and messe, when he is senile.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066996]Please provide me the evidence that Epstein and Trump had these meetings. Provide the dates and photos of Epstein and Trump with these teenage girls for all these visits or just admit you made it up. If you can't provide dates and photos you are a liar. I can say the same thing about you and all your meetings with Epstein and the photos of you and Epstein with underage girls and I can post it everyday on this site but it doesn't make it true. Don't you have a life? Do you know there is no cure for TDS so you are screwed. Your hate is typical of the democrats these days.[/QUOTE]Isn't Trump many times in Epstein files? Not twice, but many. Why? But you prefer to play blind, why is he appearing so often? Playing golf together? Trump is also shameful to give public money to those who tried to destroy Capitol and kill policemen, do you remember? When he ordered, trying to fuck democracy, not respecting US constitution. Just unbelievable he was re elected, when he should have been forbidden for life, when a danger. He also destroyed part of White House, with his megalomany.
[QUOTE=Canada;3066953]Another anti America rant. Why do you hate USA so much?[/QUOTE]Why? Only because of Trump behavior. Kick him out in November, he has to try to improve in golf, then put a not crazy, even Republican, but not crazy nor stupid, not making messe nor being a danger, trying to rob the world, and then, like under Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden, no big problem with USA for most of the world. Except criminal Netanyahou and Putin, when USA are less than 5% population, the whole world hate shameful USA of Trump, I boycott shameful USA of crazy Trump, I support Canada, Greenland, Germany, I m very sad for 150 young Iranian girls families, even girls have less value for Islamists. Our world hate USA of Trump which try to rob others, put messe in our world, make inflation and lost jobs, is a danger for our world, much more dangerous than mollahs and even war criminal Putin, when your Trump is crazy dangerous and shameful. Should be put in asylum for dangerous. No MAGA, just shame and failures for USA of Trump and Americans also pay for this and not only more expensive gas, but some will lose life because of Trump.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3067054]Why? Only because of Trump behavior. Kick him out in November, he has to try to improve in golf, then put a not crazy, even Republican, but not crazy nor stupid, not making messe nor being a danger, trying to rob the world, and then, like under Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden, no big problem with USA for most of the world. Except criminal Netanyahou and Putin, when USA are less than 5% population, the whole world hate shameful USA of Trump, I boycott shameful USA of crazy Trump, I support Canada, Greenland, Germany, I m very sad for 150 young Iranian girls families, even girls have less value for Islamists. Our world hate USA of Trump which try to rob others, put messe in our world, make inflation and lost jobs, is a danger for our world, much more dangerous than mollahs and even war criminal Putin, when your Trump is crazy dangerous and shameful. Should be put in asylum for dangerous. No MAGA, just shame and failures for USA of Trump and Americans also pay for this and not only more expensive gas, but some will lose life because of Trump.[/QUOTE]You are such a hateful person. You must not have any friends.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3067048]You love Canada? But your Trump wants to fuck them, like Greenland, Ukraine, Mexico, Venezuela. No peace with Trump, just lies and messe, when he is senile.[/QUOTE]Trump will never hurt Canada as much as Trudeau and Carney have destroyed Canada. A woke socialist government ruins every country. Several people in the USA are angry about Trump putting these tariffs on all the countries. Canada has had high tariffs on almost every country for the last 50 years. Canada even has tariffs within its own provinces. Now Canada is going to get screwed even worse because a loser like Carney thinks he can be tough on Trump. Like that is really going to help Canada. USA has been tariffed to death by Canada and almost every country in the world and Trump was the only president to stand up to these unfair trade practices. USA economy is booming. Canada not so much.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067089]You are such a hateful person. You must not have any friends.[/QUOTE]I hate your crazy dangerous too old Trump and criminal Putin and Netanyahou. I m fully sure so many are like me.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067092]Trump will never hurt Canada as much as Trudeau and Carney have destroyed Canada. A woke socialist government ruins every country. Several people in the USA are angry about Trump putting these tariffs on all the countries. Canada has had high tariffs on almost every country for the last 50 years. Canada even has tariffs within its own provinces. Now Canada is going to get screwed even worse because a loser like Carney thinks he can be tough on Trump. Like that is really going to help Canada. USA has been tariffed to death by Canada and almost every country in the world and Trump was the only president to stand up to these unfair trade practices. USA economy is booming. Canada not so much.[/QUOTE]Are you so sure USA economics is going better? When inflation for Americans and companies which did well, fucked by Trump craziness, like the planes company. And USA are less than 5% world population, but Trump making messe in whole world. When I was a child, I liked to watch Steve Mc Queen as Josh Randall, to get Trump but not alive, when worst ever president of USA for more than 90% of our world.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3067139]I hate your crazy dangerous too old Trump and criminal Putin and Netanyahou. I m fully sure so many are like me.[/QUOTE]I don't particularly like Trump as a person either. He is an arrogant New Yorker. I don't like everything he does but what he has done in USA in 16 months securing the border, creating jobs, getting 1 trillion dollars of money from countries investing in companies in USA, eliminating DEI, getting rid of government waste, trying to stop the corruption in the democratic states, got the stock market to record levels. How can you not like those successes. He is eliminating that biggest terror threat in the world. Do you like terrorists more than Trump? Biden presidency almost destroyed USA although Biden probably didn't know he was doing it as he was totally lost. What is so bad about making USA great. I wish he was in Canada making Canada great. Or at least Alberta great. He just approved a 36" pipeline from Alberta to Wyoming that will bring 300,000 barrels of oil a day. That is great for Alberta but Canada government will try to stall it. People may not like him but he is making life better for all USA citizens.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065550]Tiny12:
Lincoln was a Republican president. So was every Republican president since then. No Dem is claiming Harding was a "Dem". Or Coolidge. Or Hoover.
Trump is a Republican president through and through.
The only significant switch between Repubs and Dems in the mid-1960's was on social issues, not on economic or national security issues. Then again, by the mid-1960's and certainly right up to today, Repubs have had no argument in favor of voting for them on their abysmal economic or national security records. So they had to apply their "Southern Strategy" in order to win votes from dumb hillbillies on racial division issues, where trannies pee, fear that the Dems are going to cut off your son's penis, your daughter's budding breasts and turn everyone into black drag queens that will steal your job, rape your women and eat your cats and dogs.
You and your Magic MAGA Time Machine dishonored American War dead by not citing the estimated 620,000 to 750,000 Americans who died in Republican Abraham Lincoln's War.
More fun with MAGA Timelines and MAGA Math:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065547]So WWII was FDR's War, was it? Ever hear of December 7, 1941 and Germany's declaration of War against America two weeks later? Japan and Germany were this year's USA according to Trump.
And the Repub icon of icon Donald Trump has multiple times and with total confirmation by his vast Repub Party staff and supporters accurately cited America's military involvement in Eisenhower's Vietnam War to have lasted "19 years". That more accurately puts it at beginning in 1955, as is also generally accepted as the beginning of America's involvement in it committed fully by word, deed and treaty.
The A. I. Overview:
And WWI?
There was no 1917 version of the fully confirmed, twice by Trump himself, Iran Nuclear Deal to monitor, restrict and control Germany's submarine warfare across the oceans threatening everyone. But if there had been and Trump was president at the time you could count on him to tear it up as the proactive reason America joined the War if not started it entirely. However, since that wasn't the case, WWI was hardly "Wilson's War" as it would have been Trump's War in that hypothetical.
And, darn it all, it seems your Magic MAGA Time Machine always conks out right before an important event or two that would add immeasurably to destroying whatever point you're trying to make, this time about American wars starting under American presidents regardless of the honorable intentions of our involvement:
So you missed this one. And it was a biggie;.
Republican Abraham Lincoln's American Civil War: 620,000 to 750,000 American deaths.
You know, there were still hail and hearty Americans who fought in Republican Abraham Lincoln's American Civil War still alive and kicking in 1917. So it is puzzling how your Magic MAGA Time Machine could possibly have missed it![/QUOTE]So you maintain that Lincoln never should have forced America to abandon slavery? The Civil War wasn't a righteous cause? People should still be treated like animals, bought and sold and tortured when they don't behave as their masters direct? You're better than that Tooms. You don't really believe that.
Wilson was the father of the Modern Democratic Party, which for the first time pursued large scale foreign wars, big government, and high taxes. Did the Modern Democratic President want Big Government so he could pursue bloodthirsty wars? Or did he want bloodthirsty wars so he could pursue Big Government? Does it really matter?
Wilson imposed the first true income tax, and it was 15% on the eve of World War I, far too low to pay for a modern welfare state. Wilson jacked it up to 77% in 1918. And it was still 73% when Wilson left office, almost 2-1/2 years after the war ended.
The USA never should have entered World War I. The Zimmerman telegram didn't represent a threat as long as the USA didn't declare war on Germany. And if American defense companies and ship owners were going to traffic arms to Britain and France and their property got blown up, that was their problem. It was no reason to send young American men to Europe to die horrible deaths in brutal trench warfare.
Roosevelt jacked up the tax rate to 81% before World War II. But that wasn't enough for a bloodthirsty Democrat. The American rate wasn't going to be highest in the world unless he started a war. So he imposed an oil and fuel embargo on Japan, and froze Japanese assets. Japan felt it had no choice except to attack the USA. As to Europe, Germany never would have defeated the USSR, with or without American help.
Truman inherited a 94% maximum tax rate from Roosevelt, and lowered it all the way down to 82% in 1949, before jacking it back up again to 92% in 1952. And got us involved in another war.
Nobody agrees with you about the Vietnam War. Ask any AI agent which president was most associated with the Vietnam War and it will say Johnson. Ask which American president first waged war in Vietnam and it will say Johnson.
And as to ex-Democrat President Trump, yeah, I think getting us into a war with Iran was probably a mistake. But how many Americans have died in it? Less than 20? Compare that to many hundreds of thousands of American servicemen and servicewomen, dead in Democrat Wars. Something to think about on Memorial Day.
The spurious correlation between American military deaths in foreign wars and Democratic presidencies is much, much stronger than your spurious correlations between GDP growth and Republican presidencies.
So you maintain that Lincoln never should have forced America to abandon slavery? The Civil War wasn't a righteous cause? People should still be treated like animals, bought and sold and tortured when they don't behave as their masters direct? You're better than that Tooms. You don't really believe that.
Wilson was the father of the Modern Democratic Party, which for the first time pursued large scale foreign wars, big government, and high taxes. Did the Modern Democratic President want Big Government so he could pursue bloodthirsty wars? Or did he want bloodthirsty wars so he could pursue Big Government? Does it really matter?
Wilson imposed the first true income tax, and it was 15% on the eve of World War I, far too low to pay for a modern welfare state. Wilson jacked it up to 77% in 1918. And it was still 73% when Wilson left office, almost 2-1/2 years after the war ended.
The USA never should have entered World War I. The Zimmerman telegram didn't represent a threat as long as the USA didn't declare war on Germany. And if American defense companies and ship owners were going to traffic arms to Britain and France and their property got blown up, that was their problem. It was no reason to send young American men to Europe to die horrible deaths in brutal trench warfare.
Roosevelt jacked up the tax rate to 81% before World War II. But that wasn't enough for a bloodthirsty Democrat. The American rate wasn't going to be highest in the world unless he started a war. So he imposed an oil and fuel embargo on Japan, and froze Japanese assets. Japan felt it had no choice except to attack the USA. As to Europe, Germany never would have defeated the USSR, with or without American help.
Truman inherited a 94% maximum tax rate from Roosevelt, and lowered it all the way down to 82% in 1949, before jacking it back up again to 92% in 1952. And got us involved in another war.
Nobody agrees with you about the Vietnam War. Ask any AI agent which president was most associated with the Vietnam War and it will say Johnson. Ask which American president first waged war in Vietnam and it will say Johnson.
And as to ex-Democrat President Trump, yeah, I think getting us into a war with Iran was probably a mistake. But how many Americans have died in it? Less than 20? Compare that to many hundreds of thousands of American servicemen and servicewomen, dead in Democrat Wars. Something to think about on Memorial Day.
The spurious correlation between American military deaths in foreign wars and Democratic presidencies is much, much stronger than your spurious correlations between GDP growth and Republican presidencies.
You say not too many people have died. What about a school for girls that bombed that killed everyone there? This war was pointless and did not help us at all. In fact, it made it WORSE! Now you have Trump seeking the "deal" that Barack Obama got that was discarded just because it wasn't his idea. The Iranians own the Strait now thanks to dumbass Trump and Hegseth.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067257]I don't particularly like Trump as a person either. He is an arrogant New Yorker. I don't like everything he does but what he has done in USA in 16 months securing the border, creating jobs, getting 1 trillion dollars of money from countries investing in companies in USA, eliminating DEI, getting rid of government waste, trying to stop the corruption in the democratic states, got the stock market to record levels. How can you not like those successes. He is eliminating that biggest terror threat in the world. Do you like terrorists more than Trump? Biden presidency almost destroyed USA although Biden probably didn't know he was doing it as he was totally lost. What is so bad about making USA great. I wish he was in Canada making Canada great. Or at least Alberta great. He just approved a 36" pipeline from Alberta to Wyoming that will bring 300,000 barrels of oil a day. That is great for Alberta but Canada government will try to stall it. People may not like him but he is making life better for all USA citizens.[/QUOTE]Biggest threat in the world is Trump, much more than mollahs, threatening everybody: Greenland, Germany, Mexico, Venezuela, trying to rob Ukraine, and such a liar: peace to be re elected, but supporting criminal Netanyahou and war versus Iran when 0 reason as told by CIA. I hear about lost jobs and inflation in USA, when he makes messe everywhere. He is biggest danger in our world and I don t trust master of bullshits and lies, he is. Seem 61% Americans are disappointed about his politics and economics results. They just have to talk on mid terms if USA of Trump are still a democracy? But we saw for Capitol.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067265]So you maintain that Lincoln never should have forced America to abandon slavery? The Civil War wasn't a righteous cause? People should still be treated like animals, bought and sold and tortured when they don't behave as their masters direct? You're better than that Tooms. You don't really believe that.
Wilson was the father of the Modern Democratic Party, which for the first time pursued large scale foreign wars, big government, and high taxes. Did the Modern Democratic President want Big Government so he could pursue bloodthirsty wars? Or did he want bloodthirsty wars so he could pursue Big Government? Does it really matter?
Wilson imposed the first true income tax, and it was 15% on the eve of World War I, far too low to pay for a modern welfare state. Wilson jacked it up to 77% in 1918. And it was still 73% when Wilson left office, almost 2-1/2 years after the war ended.
The USA never should have entered World War I. The Zimmerman telegram didn't represent a threat as long as the USA didn't declare war on Germany. And if American defense companies and ship owners were going to traffic arms to Britain and France and their property got blown up, that was their problem. It was no reason to send young American men to Europe to die horrible deaths in brutal trench warfare.
Roosevelt jacked up the tax rate to 81% before World War II. But that wasn't enough for a bloodthirsty Democrat. The American rate wasn't going to be highest in the world unless he started a war. So he imposed an oil and fuel embargo on Japan, and froze Japanese assets. Japan felt it had no choice except to attack the USA. As to Europe, Germany never would have defeated the USSR, with or without American help.
Truman inherited a 94% maximum tax rate from Roosevelt, and lowered it all the way down to 82% in 1949, before jacking it back up again to 92% in 1952. And got us involved in another war.
Nobody agrees with you about the Vietnam War. Ask any AI agent which president was most associated with the Vietnam War and it will say Johnson. Ask which American president first waged war in Vietnam and it will say Johnson.
And as to ex-Democrat President Trump, yeah, I think getting us into a war with Iran was probably a mistake. But how many Americans have died in it? Less than 20? Compare that to many hundreds of thousands of American servicemen and servicewomen, dead in Democrat Wars. Something to think about on Memorial Day.
The spurious correlation between American military deaths in foreign wars and Democratic presidencies is much, much stronger than your spurious correlations between GDP growth and Republican presidencies.[/QUOTE]You characterized WWII as a Dem War, apparently because it started in Europe by Europeans while FDR was president. So what in the world IS your point? Wars that started somewhere on the planet while a Dem is president is a Dem War and wars that started somewhere on the planet when a Repub is president is a Repub War?
If so then The American Civil War was Repub Lincoln's War.
Oh, but you're a MAGA. Which means you want to hop around the playing field moving the goal posts like they were checkers on a checker board.
So now it is whether a War that started somewhere on the planet that a president finds impossible to avoid getting involved in counts if you deem it to be for a righteous cause. Which is exactly the way I would have described the American Civil War and in fact qualified my description of some Wars on your list being waged for honorable reasons.
However, YOU didn't qualify your claim that FDR's WWII was ok and gets a pass on the premise that the USA military was not only attacked first and the country declared war against first under FDR but that it was worth waging in no small part in order to liberate European Allies whose countries were being bombed and invaded and by Jews, Catholics and other groups who were being rounded up, herded into concentration camps and disappearing. Don't you care about our European Allies, News and Catholics?
Oh no. But you did find a way to play the typical Repub MAGA Race Card and bring up slavery regarding Repub Lincoln's American Civil War.
Lolol. Pathetic. We need to make those goal posts heavier so MAGAs can't just pick them up with one hand and dance around the playing field with them like they're made of Styrofoam.
Oh and let me guess; FDR and the Dems pulling us out of The Great Repub Depression of massive job and business losses, bread lines and Hoover Villes in every city was also "evil" since it it took away some of that colossal windfall hot money Coolidge and Hoover put into the pockets of the already wealthiest people on Earth, a move that contributed mightily to creating The Great Repub Depression in the first place, as every idiotic Repub Supply-Side / Trickle-Down tax and policy agenda crashes the USA economy and wipes out jobs. Boo-hoo. That is so sad.
Somebody suggested I ask A. I. Pertinent questions about whose War was the Vietnam War.
So I did.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]Which USA president replaced the French with USA military in the Vietnam War?[/b]
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[B]Dwight D. Eisenhower. President Dwight D. Eisenhower [/b]replaced the departing French military presence with a U.S. military advisory role following the French defeat in 1954. He authorized the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) to train the South Vietnamese army, officially establishing an American foothold in South Vietnam.
Wikipedia
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Following the French surrender at Dien Bien Phu and the 1954 Geneva Accords, which temporarily divided Vietnam, Eisenhower's administration chose to back the newly established Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam). Instead of allowing the French to maintain a colonial sphere or permitting national reunification elections, [b]Eisenhower's administration:
Santa Clara University
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Funded a new state: Provided over $100 million in aid and military equipment to the South Vietnamese government of Ngo Dinh Diem.
Dispatched advisors: Sent U.S. military personnel and CIA operatives to train South Vietnamese forces, stepping directly into the vacuum left by the French.
Fostered a defense pact: Supported the creation of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) to deter further communist expansion. [/B]
Wikipedia
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Though Eisenhower stopped short of deploying combat troops,[b] his sweeping political and military investments paved the way for subsequent escalations by Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. [/b]You can read more about the U.S. transition from the French colonial era at the Office of the Historian and the Miller Center's Age of Eisenhower archives.
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America's Vietnam | Miller Center
Jan 31, 2561 BE What did this mean for U.S. policy in Asia? Eisenhower avoided a direct military intervention in Indochina in 1954, and the French went down to defeat to the Co...
Miller Center
United States in the Vietnam War - Wikipedia
After World War II ended in 1945, President Harry S. Truman declared his doctrine of "containment" of communism in 1947 at the start of the Cold War. U.S. invol...
Wikipedia
Dwight Eisenhower: Trouble on the Horizon The Vietnam War from ...
Eisenhower biographer Chester J. Pach Jr. observes astutely that, Eisenhower considered the establishment of South Vietnam a significant Cold War success, yet ...
Santa Clara University
Which US Presidents served their term during the Vietnam War? - Quora
Jan 5, 2559 BE * Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower during the time the Vietnamese fought the French, * Dwight Eisenhower when the French were defeated then America sent aid a...
Quora
Which US presidents were in office during Vietnam War? - Quora
Jun 12, 2559 BE * Preston Ingalls. World traveler and Vietnam combat vet '69-'70 Author has. 9y. Originally Answered: Which president were in office during Vietnam war? Techn...
Quora
[B]Replacing France: The origins of American intervention in Vietnam - ResearchGate
Statler examines diplomatic maneuvers in Paris, Washington, London, and Saigon to detail how Western alliance members sought to transform South Vietnam into a m...
ResearchGate
Dien Bien Phu & the Fall of French Indochina, 1954
In the wake of the French defeat, the French and Vietnamese, along with representatives from the United States and China, met in Geneva in mid-1954 to discuss t...[/b]
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The United States' role in the First Indochina War
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Eisenhower and Vietnam (Chapter 13) - The Cambridge History of ...
Jan 2, 2568 BE The Eisenhower administration tried to convince France to accept the course it had chosen with Diệm. After several tense sessions in early May 1955, Foreign Min...
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Why the USA lost the war in Vietnam - Higher History Revision - BBC Bitesize
After the Geneva Agreements of 1954, a date was set for the reunification of Vietnam under one government. This government was to be elected by the Vietnamese p...
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At a press conference on this day in 1954, President Dwight D ...
Apr 7, 2565 BE Instead of sending combat troops, Eisenhower chose a policy of indirect support. His administration provided economic aid, military equipment, and advisors to a...
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Mar 9, 2564 BE * Gene Popa. Author Author has 241 answers and 3M answer views. 5y. Actually, Eisenhower went to great lengths to try to ensure that the United States did not...[/QUOTE]The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]When did the Vietnam War start?[/b]
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Vietnam War.
Facts, Summary, Years, Timeline, Casualties.
Vietnam War.
Facts, Summary, Years, Timeline, Casualties.
Vietnam War Questions Answered.
THIRTEEN. New York Public Media.
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[B]The Vietnam War officially began on November 1, 1955, and ended on April 30,1975. This starting date marks when the USA Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) was deployed in South Vietnam to train the Army of the Republic of Vietnam.[/b]
Wikipedia.
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However, because the conflict was deeply tied to the broader Indochina Wars, historians often highlight a few other pivotal milestones that led to the full-scale war:
Britannica.
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July 1954: The Geneva Accords divided Vietnam into communist North and anti-communist South following the defeat of French colonial forces.
August 1964: Following the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, the United States significantly escalated its involvement from providing advisory support to direct military combat.
[URL]History.com[/URL]
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Vietnam War.
Facts, Summary, Years, Timeline, Casualties.
Vietnam War, (1954 - 75), a protracted conflict that pitted the communist government of North Vietnam and its allies in South Vietnam, known as the Viet Cong, aga.
Britannica.
Vietnam War. Wikipedia.
The Vietnam War (1 November 1955 - 30 April 1975) was an armed conflict in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia fought between North Vietnam (Democratic Republic of Viet.
Wikipedia.
Vietnam War: Dates and Timeline.
HISTORY.
3 Controversial Moments. Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964) Two USA Destroyers stationed in the Gulf of Tonkin in Vietnam claimed to have been fired upon by North.
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United States in the Vietnam War. Wikipedia.
1955 North Vietnam launches an "anti-landlord" campaign, during which counter-revolutionaries are imprisoned or killed. The numbers killed or imprisoned are the.
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A Brief History of the Vietnam War.
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Vietnam War Timeline. Britannica.
Vietnam War Timeline * May 7, 1954. Viet Minh troops under Gen. . * June 1, 1954. The Saigon Military Mission, a covert operation to conduct psychological war.
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Vietnam War 50th Year Commemoration.
The. - USA Army.
KEY DATES FOR THE USA ARMY IN VIETNAM. The USA Actions in Vietnam began slowly with the deployment of advisors in the early 1950's and expanded incrementally t.
Army. Mil[/QUOTE]No credible historian will ever assert that President JFK or LBJ or Nixon "started" the Vietnam War. Because they didn't. They could only "escalate", surge and try to finish what Repub Dwight the. Eisenhower had spent almost every year of his two presidential terms fully committing the USA to militarily by word, deed and treaty.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3067269]
You say not too many people have died. What about a school for girls that bombed that killed everyone there? This war was pointless and did not help us at all. In fact, it made it WORSE! Now you have Trump seeking the "deal" that Barack Obama got that was discarded just because it wasn't his idea. The Iranians own the Strait now thanks to dumbass Trump and Hegseth.[/QUOTE]You're mixing apples and oranges. My spurious correlation is between [B]American military[/B] deaths and Democratic presidents.
I agree, Trump should have left Obama's agreement with Iran (the JPCOA) in place. Abandoning it was stupid. Iran wasn't allowed to enrich uranium to above 3. 7% purity, and had to reduce its stockpiles by 98%. The IAEA which performed inspections said Iran was mostly complying with the JPCOA.
Once Trump pulled out of the agreement, Iran enriched Uranium to 60% purity. Iran probably could build a bomb with that and float it on a cargo ship into New York Harbor.
There was no upside in pulling out of the agreement, only downside.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067335]You're mixing apples and oranges. My spurious correlation is between [B]American military[/B] deaths and Democratic presidents.
I agree, Trump should have left Obama's agreement with Iran (the JPCOA) in place. Abandoning it was stupid. Iran wasn't allowed to enrich uranium to above 3. 7% purity, and had to reduce its stockpiles by 98%. The IAEA which performed inspections said Iran was mostly complying with the JPCOA.
Once Trump pulled out of the agreement, Iran enriched Uranium to 60% purity. Iran probably could build a bomb with that and float it on a cargo ship into New York Harbor.
There was no upside in pulling out of the agreement, only downside.[/QUOTE]Obama deal with Iran was a payoff for an agreement that Iran knew they would never agree to. As soon as it was signed and Obama released billions to Iran the money received fast tracked Iran nuclear ambitions. Iran never let the inspectors to check and Iran never stopped their nuclear ambitions. Trump should have stopped them in his first term. Better later than never though after Obama and Biden kept funding Irans nuclear enrichment. Hopefully now we can eliminate this threat and hopefully free the Iranian people from this horrible terrorist regime.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3067274]Biggest threat in the world is Trump, much more than mollahs, threatening everybody: Greenland, Germany, Mexico, Venezuela, trying to rob Ukraine, and such a liar: peace to be re elected, but supporting criminal Netanyahou and war versus Iran when 0 reason as told by CIA. I hear about lost jobs and inflation in USA, when he makes messe everywhere. He is biggest danger in our world and I don t trust master of bullshits and lies, he is. Seem 61% Americans are disappointed about his politics and economics results. They just have to talk on mid terms if USA of Trump are still a democracy? But we saw for Capitol.[/QUOTE]You are very wrong again or you are a huge supporter of Iran and terrorists. Trump will finally end the war with Iran that has lasted 47 years. Ridding the world of terrorists is not a bad thing unless you are a terrorist.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067364]Obama deal with Iran was a payoff for an agreement that Iran knew they would never agree to. As soon as it was signed and Obama released billions to Iran the money received fast tracked Iran nuclear ambitions. Iran never let the inspectors to check and Iran never stopped their nuclear ambitions. Trump should have stopped them in his first term. Better later than never though after Obama and Biden kept funding Irans nuclear enrichment. Hopefully now we can eliminate this threat and hopefully free the Iranian people from this horrible terrorist regime.[/QUOTE]Hey Canada, the inspectors said for the most part Iran was allowing access to the sites. There was some suspicion that they could have been playing shell games though as Iran more than once drug its feet in allowing access to facilities. The better indicator is the amount of nuclear material shipped out of the country to Russia, as required by the JPCOA. Iran reduced its stockpile by 98% in 2015. Now could Russia have shipped the material right back to Iran, maybe after further enriching it? Possible but highly unlikely. Recall that Russia's had its problems with Islamic extremists. And Russia's a lot closer to Iran than Europe or the USA. It shouldn't want Iran to have the bomb.
If you're right, it made absolutely no sense for Trump to withdraw from the agreement and then do nothing in his first term. He gave them the excuse to accelerate development of nuclear weapons. If the USA had gone into Iran in 2017, like it earlier went into Iraq using WMD's as an excuse, the result probably would have been the same, that is to say, the USA wouldn't have found nuclear weapons. Thankfully though Trump, unlike Bush and LBJ, isn't likely to get America into a long, drawn out war.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067365]Ridding the world of terrorists is not a bad thing unless you are a terrorist.[/QUOTE]Who is an isn't a terrorist at any particular time in history depends upon which side of the issue you are on at the time. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It's a grey issue. A brief review of history and you see that.
[I]Revolutionary War
The definition of terrorism used in the question - "intentional attacks on civilians, with the goal of political change" is quite wide ranging, and could include a number of acts we might not usually think of as terrorism. However if we accept it, it is very clear that terrorist acts were committed during the Revolutionary War by both sides. Despite Hollywood's portrayal of the Revolutionary War as a fight between Yankee-accented farmers and British-accented overseers, the Revolutionary War was in essence a civil war; Loyalists and Patriots looked the same, spoke the same and often came from the same families. The same was true of the 'British' soldiers, who were often recruited in the Colonies, and might find themselves firing at - and being fired on by - their friends, neighbors and family. The only difference between a Loyalist and a Patriot was their politics.
Civilian attacks
It is absolutely certain that there were attacks on civilians by both sides of the conflict. Houses of Loyalists were frequently set on fire, and their property confiscated (see here, here, here, here and here, as well as many others). Tar-and-feathering of those who opposed your cause - or sometimes simply didn't support it enough - was also commonly used by both sides. The Boston Tea Party was certainly targeted at civilians with the goal of political change. Loyalists in return burned and looted the houses of Patriots where they were in the majority.[/I]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067373]Hey Canada, the inspectors said for the most part Iran was allowing access to the sites. There was some suspicion that they could have been playing shell games though as Iran more than once drug its feet in allowing access to facilities. The better indicator is the amount of nuclear material shipped out of the country to Russia, as required by the JPCOA. Iran reduced its stockpile by 98% in 2015. Now could Russia have shipped the material right back to Iran, maybe after further enriching it? Possible but highly unlikely. Recall that Russia's had its problems with Islamic extremists. And Russia's a lot closer to Iran than Europe or the USA. It shouldn't want Iran to have the bomb.
If you're right, it made absolutely no sense for Trump to withdraw from the agreement and then do nothing in his first term. He gave them the excuse to accelerate development of nuclear weapons. If the USA had gone into Iran in 2017, like it earlier went into Iraq using WMD's as an excuse, the result probably would have been the same, that is to say, the USA wouldn't have found nuclear weapons. Thankfully though Trump, unlike Bush and LBJ, isn't likely to get America into a long, drawn out war.[/QUOTE]Then other presidents you mentioned were not as reckless as Trump. This would be George W Bush too but to a lesser extent. Trump thought that strikes alone would bring down the Iranian leadership. It did but they were replaced by younger more hard line radicals.
Congress is not going to approve a full scale military project in Iran. The people including Hegseth have not been able to articulate the necessity for ground troops. Nor do they have an adequate explanation for the strikes that were made.
Trump is all over the place with the ballroom and UFC event scheduled at the Whitehouse and this 1. 8 billion slush fund for rioters who ransacked the capital. , Moreover, he endorsed the opponents of two well like Senators Cassidy and Cornyn.
They left town without funding the ballroom that Trump initially said would not cost taxpayers any money.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067364]Obama deal with Iran was a payoff for an agreement that Iran knew they would never agree to. As soon as it was signed and Obama released billions to Iran the money received fast tracked Iran nuclear ambitions. Iran never let the inspectors to check and Iran never stopped their nuclear ambitions. Trump should have stopped them in his first term. Better later than never though after Obama and Biden kept funding Irans nuclear enrichment. Hopefully now we can eliminate this threat and hopefully free the Iranian people from this horrible terrorist regime.[/QUOTE]Trump defunded and removed the agreement he himself confirmed was working. Twice.
And then he immediately defunded and removed the inspectors, allowing Iran to do anything it wanted for the past 9 years, unmonitored, including all three years remaining in Trump's first disastrous term where he was busy defunding and removing other programs that far better presidents had created in order to protect Americans. See below.
[B]President Trump Could Decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. That Could Massively Backfire.
Oct. 13, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/4978954/president-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-sanctions/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The President faces an October 15 deadline to certify whether Iran is complying with the nuclear agreement, which was negotiated in 2015 under former President Barack Obama. [B]Trump twice confirmed Irans cooperation with the deal earlier in his presidency,[/b] but he now appears determined to withdraw his endorsement.[/QUOTE]Trump's own Pentagon confirms there was no eminent threat from Iran that would justify him plunging America into still another quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice.
[B]Pentagon tells Congress no intelligence showed Iran was preparing to strike before US attack.
Closed-door briefings acknowledge no evidence that Tehran intended to hit US forces first, as Democrats accuse Trump of launching a war of choice..
March 2, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.trtworld.com/article/50386a301b64[/URL]
And just as Trump defunded and removed the above programs that were working to protect Americans from nuclear war with Iran, he also defunded and removed the means to keep Americans safe from other terrorist attacks:
[B]Trump administration cuts to terrorism prevention departments could leave Americans exposed.
Aug. 10, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://theconversation.com/trump-administration-cuts-to-terrorism-prevention-departments-could-leave-americans-exposed-261630[/URL]
As he defunded and removed the programs to prevent another Trump's Pandemic:
[B]Trump cuts damage global efforts to track diseases, prevent outbreaks.
Disease surveillance programs worldwide are suddenly in limbo.
March 25, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-cuts-damage-global-efforts-track-diseases-prevent-outbreaks[/URL]
As he defunded and removed the program that would have prevented his first Trump's Pandemic:
[B]Trump administration cut pandemic early warning program in September.
Predict project wound down three months before outbreak.
Project had identified 160 potentially dangerous coronaviruses.
April 3, 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus[/URL]
Which he soon thereafter admitted was the reason Trump's Pandemic developed in the first place and could have been averted and stopped "easily" had the agency he defunded and removed not been defunded and removed.
[B]Bob Woodward Was Stunned By What Trump Told Young Son Barron About Coronavirus.
Oct. 25, 2022[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]"It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, [b]they[/b] shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily."[/QUOTE]The [B]"they"[/B] I highlighted there would have been the very agents that had been stationed in those Chinese labs to alert the world to any early potential deadly virus spread, knowing full well Xi and his Chinese subjects could not be trusted to do so. As happened. They were the agents Trump and only Trump decided to defund and remove, contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid, months before Trump's Pandemic developed thanks solely to Trump's 2019 decisions, which then produced the millions of deaths, worldwide economic and supply-chain collapse, business and school closures and the global hyper-inflation that followed.
Why do you love quagmire, counterproductive Repub Wars of Choice based on Repub lies and millions of worldwide deaths, historic economic destruction and global hyper-inflation so much?
Senile of USA claiming white in morning and black in evening about peace for war he made, blocking Ormuz pass and making inflation for the world and Americans of course.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3067391]Who is an isn't a terrorist at any particular time in history depends upon which side of the issue you are on at the time. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It's a grey issue. A brief review of history and you see that. ... [/QUOTE]Yes and I'm sure the people in the around the world and the global south, especially in Kenya and the Manila, Philippines, protesting over higher fuel prices as they burn [B]Trump, Netanyahu, and Marcos as a "Three-Headed Demon" in effigy,[/B] is no doubt their version of who they see as terrorist and the ones terrorizing their lives and livelihoods. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLJZhBSRN18[/URL]
Evening peak energy demand, once the domain and strong-hold of gas-peaker plants, are now being dominated and supplanted by reliable, flexible electrotech, solar and wind excess energy, soaked up by utility scale BESS and residential batteries, displacing the old school guard as the new kings of peak evening power.
[B]Big batteries hit world-leading 40 pct share of evening demand in stunning new record for South Australia[/B], May 26th, 2026. [URL]https://reneweconomy.com.au/big-batteries-hit-world-leading-40-pct-share-of-evening-demand-in-stunning-new-record-for-south-australia/[/URL] AND [B]Californias home batteries are replacing gas plants and saving hundreds of millions,[/B] September 17,2025 [URL]https://reneweconomy.com.au/big-batteries-hit-world-leading-40-pct-share-of-evening-demand-in-stunning-new-record-for-south-australia/[/URL].
It's not just California and South Australia, anymore, showing the world that renewable energy and electrotech are predominately becoming the primary economical and power management tools, for managing evening peak demand, and phasing out fossil fuel supply unreliability, even as demand increases.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3067391]Who is an isn't a terrorist at any particular time in history depends upon which side of the issue you are on at the time. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It's a grey issue. A brief review of history and you see that.
[I]Revolutionary War
The definition of terrorism used in the question - "intentional attacks on civilians, with the goal of political change" is quite wide ranging, and could include a number of acts we might not usually think of as terrorism. However if we accept it, it is very clear that terrorist acts were committed during the Revolutionary War by both sides. Despite Hollywood's portrayal of the Revolutionary War as a fight between Yankee-accented farmers and British-accented overseers, the Revolutionary War was in essence a civil war; Loyalists and Patriots looked the same, spoke the same and often came from the same families. The same was true of the 'British' soldiers, who were often recruited in the Colonies, and might find themselves firing at - and being fired on by - their friends, neighbors and family. The only difference between a Loyalist and a Patriot was their politics.
Civilian attacks
It is absolutely certain that there were attacks on civilians by both sides of the conflict. Houses of Loyalists were frequently set on fire, and their property confiscated (see here, here, here, here and here, as well as many others). Tar-and-feathering of those who opposed your cause - or sometimes simply didn't support it enough - was also commonly used by both sides. The Boston Tea Party was certainly targeted at civilians with the goal of political change. Loyalists in return burned and looted the houses of Patriots where they were in the majority.[/I][/QUOTE]Absolutely. If not for the American revolutionaries, most likely slavery would have been outlawed in North America in the 1830's. The country might not have suffered a civil war with 700,000 deaths.
Glad you're still alive. I took a vacation from posting and you weren't here when I got back.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3067320]Somebody suggested I ask A. I. Pertinent questions about whose War was the Vietnam War.
So I did.
The A. I. Overview:
The A. I. Overview:
No credible historian will ever assert that President JFK or LBJ or Nixon "started" the Vietnam War. Because they didn't. They could only "escalate", surge and try to finish what Repub Dwight the. Eisenhower had spent almost every year of his two presidential terms fully committing the USA to militarily by word, deed and treaty.[/QUOTE]By your logic Truman started the war. His administration established the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) in 1950 which had about 800 military personnel in Southeast Asia, principally Vietnam, when he left office. MAAG continued operating and there were about 900 American military personnel, primarily advisors, in Vietnam at the end of the Eisenhower administration.
JFK ramped that up to 16,000 "advisors" and later Bloodthirsty Democrat LBJ had 543,000 troops in Vietnam at the peak. Many young American men died needless deaths, 58,220 to be exact, not counting MIA.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3067312]You characterized WWII as a Dem War, apparently because it started in Europe by Europeans while FDR was president. So what in the world IS your point? Wars that started somewhere on the planet while a Dem is president is a Dem War and wars that started somewhere on the planet when a Repub is president is a Repub War?
If so then The American Civil War was Repub Lincoln's War.
Oh, but you're a MAGA. Which means you want to hop around the playing field moving the goal posts like they were checkers on a checker board.
So now it is whether a War that started somewhere on the planet that a president finds impossible to avoid getting involved in counts if you deem it to be for a righteous cause. Which is exactly the way I would have described the American Civil War and in fact qualified my description of some Wars on your list being waged for honorable reasons.
However, YOU didn't qualify your claim that FDR's WWII was ok and gets a pass on the premise that the USA military was not only attacked first and the country declared war against first under FDR but that it was worth waging in no small part in order to liberate European Allies whose countries were being bombed and invaded and by Jews, Catholics and other groups who were being rounded up, herded into concentration camps and disappearing. Don't you care about our European Allies, News and Catholics?
Oh no. But you did find a way to play the typical Repub MAGA Race Card and bring up slavery regarding Repub Lincoln's American Civil War.
Lolol. Pathetic. We need to make those goal posts heavier so MAGAs can't just pick them up with one hand and dance around the playing field with them like they're made of Styrofoam.
Oh and let me guess; FDR and the Dems pulling us out of The Great Repub Depression of massive job and business losses, bread lines and Hoover Villes in every city was also "evil" since it it took away some of that colossal windfall hot money Coolidge and Hoover put into the pockets of the already wealthiest people on Earth, a move that contributed mightily to creating The Great Repub Depression in the first place, as every idiotic Repub Supply-Side / Trickle-Down tax and policy agenda crashes the USA economy and wipes out jobs. Boo-hoo. That is so sad.[/QUOTE]Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South, no American involvement or American deaths in World War I, World War II, the Korean War or the Vietnam War, no nuclear bomb dropped on Japan, no internment of Japanese Americans in prison camps, no American hostages in Iran, no recessions in 1833,1836, 1839,1845, 1847,1853, 1857,1860, 1887,1893, 1896,1913, 1937,1945, 1949, or 1980, and no record setting inflation in 1980. And most important, our country would never have been humiliated by our president, the leader of the free world, getting blow jobs from a chubby intern.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067553]By your logic Truman started the war. His administration established the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) in 1950 which had about 800 military personnel in Southeast Asia, principally Vietnam, when he left office. MAAG continued operating and there were about 900 American military personnel, primarily advisors, in Vietnam at the end of the Eisenhower administration.
JFK ramped that up to 16,000 "advisors" and later Bloodthirsty Democrat LBJ had 543,000 troops in Vietnam at the peak. Many young American men died needless deaths, 58,220 to be exact, not counting MIA.[/QUOTE]By your logic every president who sent or authorized aid to an ally during any war anywhere on the planet "started" that war.
Truman didn't literally replace the retreating French military with USA military to take over their position in their War.
Eisenhower did.
The "escalation" of Eisenhower's Vietnam War that was done by JFK and LBJ was that they finally authorized the USA military to shoot back. Eisenhower stationed them there like midway carnival targets with no authorization to shoot back. Yes, as long as nobody was shooting back, the USA military midway carnival targets Eisenhower was supplying them with were not generating as much firepower response from the North Vietnamese. As soon as the USA military were allowed to shoot back and there were several, not just one, signs that the North Vietnamese were "escalating" their side of it, the numbers increased on both sides.
That's a given in these quagmire, counterproductive Repub Wars of Choice Repubs like to plunge America into as often as possible.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067554]Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South, no American involvement or American deaths in World War I, World War II, the Korean War or the Vietnam War, no nuclear bomb dropped on Japan, no internment of Japanese Americans in prison camps, no American hostages in Iran, no recessions in 1833,1836, 1839,1845, 1847,1853, 1857,1860, 1887,1893, 1896,1913, 1937,1945, 1949, or 1980, and no record setting inflation in 1980. And most important, our country would never have been humiliated by our president, the leader of the free world, getting blow jobs from a chubby intern.[/QUOTE]You nailed it. Facts are facts.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067554]Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South, no American involvement or American deaths in World War I, World War II, the Korean War or the Vietnam War, no nuclear bomb dropped on Japan, no internment of Japanese Americans in prison camps, no American hostages in Iran, no recessions in 1833,1836, 1839,1845, 1847,1853, 1857,1860, 1887,1893, 1896,1913, 1937,1945, 1949, or 1980, and no record setting inflation in 1980. And most important, our country would never have been humiliated by our president, the leader of the free world, getting blow jobs from a chubby intern.[/QUOTE]Oh, so now Repub Lincoln's American Civil War was no longer started by the USA President and Commander-in-Chief at the time but by whoever was on the other side of the USA military artillery. I don't think the Dem side of Repub Lincoln's American Civil War even had a cannon factory at the time.
The Recession of 1833,1836, blah, blah, blah? Yeah, those were back when Tariffs that today's icon of all Iconic Repubs Donald Trump loves so much he continually claims its his favorite word were the primary source of federal revenue, precisely what the greatest Repub president of all time wants to return to. Back when Repubs were calling themselves different Party names.
That list is at least 80% of the things your fellow current Repubs would happily vote for again since they happened back before the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act were proposed, fought for for and passed by Dems, a couple of things we all noticed you didn't include in that list of "evil" Dem accomplishments, which immediately drove your fellow current Repub-supporters insane and far away from supporting the Dem Party again. They became almost 100% Repub since then.
And, aside from the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act, here are a few other things that your fellow current Repub MAGA voters hate that would never have happened without a Dem President:
The recovery from the Great Repub Depression.
The New Deal.
The recovery from the THREE Repub Eisenhower Recessions.
The recovery from the Repub Nixon / Ford Recession and Arab Oil Embargo.
The recovery from the Great Repub Reagan / Bush1 Recessions.
The recovery from the Great Repub Bush2 Recession and Colossal Economic Disaster.
The recovery from the Repub Trump's Deep Recession and Colossal Economic Disaster.
Social Security.
Unemployment Insurance.
Medicare.
Medicaid.
The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
The Affordable Care Act.
The American Rescue Plan Act.
The Inflation Reduction Act.
The Chips and Science Act.
The Infrastructure Legislation.
Etc.
Still waiting for somebody somewhere at some time to finally come up with at least one program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they were in the White House and held the Majorities in the House and the Senate equal to the least of those on that Dem list. Ever.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3067503]Senile of USA claiming white in morning and black in evening about peace for war he made, blocking Ormuz pass and making inflation for the world and Americans of course.[/QUOTE]Claiming peace after war he made following his criminal friend Netanyahou, but bombs on Iran whole night. How can we trust such crazy? Only blind dumb do. Really wish miracle on mid terms, when so bored of daily master of bullshits putting messe in our world where USA are only a small country.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3067441]Trump defunded and removed the agreement he himself confirmed was working. Twice.
And then he immediately defunded and removed the inspectors, allowing Iran to do anything it wanted for the past 9 years, unmonitored, including all three years remaining in Trump's first disastrous term where he was busy defunding and removing other programs that far better presidents had created in order to protect Americans. See below.
[B]President Trump Could Decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. That Could Massively Backfire.
Oct. 13, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/4978954/president-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-sanctions/[/URL]
Trump's own Pentagon confirms there was no eminent threat from Iran that would justify him plunging America into still another quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice.
[B]Pentagon tells Congress no intelligence showed Iran was preparing to strike before US attack.
Closed-door briefings acknowledge no evidence that Tehran intended to hit US forces first, as Democrats accuse Trump of launching a war of choice..
March 2, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.trtworld.com/article/50386a301b64[/URL]
And just as Trump defunded and removed the above programs that were working to protect Americans from nuclear war with Iran, he also defunded and removed the means to keep Americans safe from other terrorist attacks:.[/QUOTE]Trump doesn't remember what he told 1 hour ago. Like for Crimea robbed by Putin. He is too senile and schizophrene turning crazy. A danger for our world and he fuck deep Americans.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067550]Absolutely. If not for the American revolutionaries, most likely slavery would have been outlawed in North America in the 1830's. The country might not have suffered a civil war with 700,000 deaths.[/QUOTE]That or people could have just run cotton plantations like any other business and paid people to pick cotton instead of supporting the international slave trade. It was a economic thing (read: GREED) and had nothing to do with human rights.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067550]Glad you're still alive. I took a vacation from posting and you weren't here when I got back.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am still hanging tough. All the back and forth gets old so sometimes I just watch like a interesting tennis match. Most of the stuff discussed is above my pay grade and I have no dog in the fight. But I understand completely the passions of those who are stuck in the Dis-United States of America. I certainly wish the POTUS would wrap the current headline conflict up. The ripple effects are being felt even in the part of the world where I am posted up.
[B]As they say, all politics is local![/B]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067554]Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South, no American involvement or American deaths in World War I, World War II, the Korean War or the Vietnam War, no nuclear bomb dropped on Japan, no internment of Japanese Americans in prison camps, no American hostages in Iran, no recessions in 1833,1836, 1839,1845, 1847,1853, 1857,1860, 1887,1893, 1896,1913, 1937,1945, 1949, or 1980, and no record setting inflation in 1980. And most important, our country would never have been humiliated by our president, the leader of the free world, getting blow jobs from a chubby intern.[/QUOTE]"Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South".
Your attempts at sophistry are as lame as your fellow Anti American ISGer Tokyo Roses.
If the all the slave owners were alive today 95% would be Libertarians.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxBbGoEDVxU[/URL]
RIP POS Jon Cornyn.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3067739]"Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South".
Your attempts at sophistry are as lame as your fellow Anti American ISGer Tokyo Roses.
If the all the slave owners were alive today 95% would be Libertarians.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxBbGoEDVxU[/URL]
RIP POS Jon Cornyn.[/QUOTE]LOL a 24 yr incumbent loses by 2 to 1/ 30 points after outspending him by 80 fuckin million.
MAGA is badass.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3067739]"Without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South".
Your attempts at sophistry are as lame as your fellow Anti American ISGer Tokyo Roses.
If the all the slave owners were alive today 95% would be Libertarians.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxBbGoEDVxU[/URL]
RIP POS Jon Cornyn.[/QUOTE]You were all on board with this back in 2023 Marquesa. In fact you added to my list:
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2850321]"And while we're at it, without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South, no American involvement or American deaths in World War I, World War II, the Korean War or the Vietnam War, no nuclear bomb dropped on Japan, no internment of Japanese Americans in prison camps, no American hostages in Iran, no recessions in 1833,1836, 1839,1845, 1847,1853, 1857,1860, 1887,1893, 1896,1913, 1937,1945, 1949, or 1980, and no record setting inflation in 1980. And most important, our country would never have been humiliated by our president, the leader of the free world, getting blow jobs from a chubby intern".
And don't leave out Dirty Joe trying to start WW3.
[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/u-s-nuclear-capable-jets/2023/09/06/id/1133367/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2850283]"And while we're at it, without Democratic presidents, there would have been no slavery, no Civil War, no persecution of blacks in the South, no American involvement or American deaths in World War I, World War II, the Korean War or the Vietnam War, no nuclear bomb dropped on Japan, no internment of Japanese Americans in prison camps, no American hostages in Iran, no recessions in 1833,1836, 1839,1845, 1847,1853, 1857,1860, 1887,1893, 1896,1913, 1937,1945, 1949, or 1980, and no record setting inflation in 1980. And most important, our country would never have been humiliated by our president, the leader of the free world, getting blow jobs from a chubby intern. ".
And don't forget Bubba blowing up the economy in 2008.
November 1999, then-President Bubba Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA) into effect. GLBA repealed Sections 20 and 32 of the Glass-Steagall Act, which had prohibited the interlocking of commercial and investment activities.[/QUOTE]He may not know it, but Tooms and I are competing to come up with the most ridiculous list of false and misleading partisan propaganda. Tooms is winning. I wrote that my list, the one you quoted, was satirical. But Tooms either forgot or he enjoys debating and reciting Democrat tall tales so much that he doesn't care. For the record, I don't believe anything I wrote in what you quoted.
With Cornyn out, the next new Texas Senator will be James Talarico or Ken Paxton. Talarico believes that God is non-binary, and there are six biological sexes. Also the southern border should be like a front porch with a welcome mat. He said that eating meat is an existential threat to mankind.
Paxton was indicted for securities fraud. An Austin developer, Nate Paul, bribed him and hired his mistress. In return Attorney General (AG) Paxton stopped foreclosure proceedings against Paul's properties. And the AG's office intervened in an FBI investigation into Paul's affairs and a civil lawsuit where a foundation sued him for fraud. Paxton also sued to stop abortions from being used to save women's lives. And intervened to try to get the Supreme Court to overturn election results in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
Well, you can't lose either way Marquesa!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067807]You were all on board with this back in 2023 Marquesa. In fact you added to my list:[/QUOTE]Pro Repub MAGA pretend "Bothsider-Neithersiders" bring their dishonest false-equivalencies to every argument the facts and data prevent them from winning.
So we are both doing the same thing but you kinda' sorta' "win" and come out ahead because what I am doing is worse than what you're doing, is it now? Lolol. Yep. That's the classic pro Repub MAGA pretend "bothsider-neithersider" game, alright.
Nope. What I'm posting is fully supported by facts, data and the historical record of actual results. What you're posting is nit-picking and cherry-picking utterly irrelevant anecdotes and unsubstantiated opinion.
My side produced every major economic recovery, majpr economic expansion or historic private-sector job gains of the past 100 years and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions or historic job losses while your side produced every Great Depression, Great Recession or historic job losses of the past 100 years and none of the great economic recoveries, great economic expansions or historic private-sector jobs creation.
None of it is the result of wild coincidences, crazy business cycles, bad luck or a witch's curse. It's just plain good old fashioned crap Repub economic policies and crap Repub stewardship vs obviously and inarguably far superior Dem policies and stewardship.
You can't even name one simple, ordinary, garden-variety program or legislation that your side has bothered to lift a finger to propose, fight for and pass when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and the Senate that so much as 51% of the American people today revere and want to be left intact, not destroyed or compromised so much that it no longer improves their lives and promotes a better USA economy and standard of living. Ever. Not even after giving you and your fellow Dem-bashing Repub MAGAs well over a year to come up with just one. And while Dems have been responsible for ALL such programs and legislation.
Again, there is nothing mystical and magical about that either. One side gives a shit about producing good programs and legislation to benefit most Americans and works damn hard and takes all the political risk to accomplish it. That would be my side. The other side doesn't give a shit about that and would rather take the lazy, deadbeat, do nothing and know nothing approach by letting oligarchs who buy them their election wins loot the federal coffers at the great expense of everyone else. That would be your side.
Meanwhile, the Republican Party's record is clearly far and away worse for getting Americans killed in American Wars started while they were commander-in-chief no matter how hard you hope nobody will notice Abraham Lincoln was indeed a Republican president.
Enjoy your self-delusion if that's what allows Repub MAGAs to come up with this silly nonsense. Too bad the silliness also results in so much damage to America and the American people though.
USA, MAGA led by a geriatric. No peace with Iran, for Ormuz and Ukraine. Failures of golfer.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3067881]Pro Repub MAGA pretend "Bothsider-Neithersiders" bring their dishonest false-equivalencies to every argument the facts and data prevent them from winning.
So we are both doing the same thing but you kinda' sorta' "win" and come out ahead because what I am doing is worse than what you're doing, is it now? Lolol. Yep. That's the classic pro Repub MAGA pretend "bothsider-neithersider" game, alright.
Nope. What I'm posting is fully supported by facts, data and the historical record of actual results. What you're posting is nit-picking and cherry-picking utterly irrelevant anecdotes and unsubstantiated opinion.
My side produced every major economic recovery, majpr economic expansion or historic private-sector job gains of the past 100 years and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions or historic job losses while your side produced every Great Depression, Great Recession or historic job losses of the past 100 years and none of the great economic recoveries, great economic expansions or historic private-sector jobs creation.
None of it is the result of wild coincidences, crazy business cycles, bad luck or a witch's curse. It's just plain good old fashioned crap Repub economic policies and crap Repub stewardship vs obviously and inarguably far superior Dem policies and stewardship.
You can't even name one simple, ordinary, garden-variety program or legislation that your side has bothered to lift a finger to propose, fight for and pass when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and the Senate that so much as 51% of the American people today revere and want to be left intact, not destroyed or compromised so much that it no longer improves their lives and promotes a better USA economy and standard of living. Ever. Not even after giving you and your fellow Dem-bashing Repub MAGAs well over a year to come up with just one. And while Dems have been responsible for ALL such programs and legislation.
Again, there is nothing mystical and magical about that either. One side gives a shit about producing good programs and legislation to benefit most Americans and works damn hard and takes all the political risk to accomplish it. That would be my side. The other side doesn't give a shit about that and would rather take the lazy, deadbeat, do nothing and know nothing approach by letting oligarchs who buy them their election wins loot the federal coffers at the great expense of everyone else. That would be your side.
Meanwhile, the Republican Party's record is clearly far and away worse for getting Americans killed in American Wars started while they were commander-in-chief no matter how hard you hope nobody will notice Abraham Lincoln was indeed a Republican president.
Enjoy your self-delusion if that's what allows Repub MAGAs to come up with this silly nonsense. Too bad the silliness also results in so much damage to America and the American people though.[/QUOTE]No Tooms, like I said, YOU won. You're the master of the spurious correlation. Dig deeper and most of your old, historical claims about Democrats and Republicans are bogus. I've described why in many posts over the last few years. I don't have time to do that anymore. You are right on some points. Republicans did contribute to the Great Depression and Bush's nation building was a fiasco. And I agree with many (but not all) of your criticisms of Trump. Nothing else comes to mind.
In your post above you are right that Lincoln was a Republican. The rest is false or deceptive.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067807]You were all on board with this back in 2023 Marquesa. In fact you added to my list:
[/QUOTE]Yes you are 100% correct. Tools s leading on false ad misleading information. You can never catch up to him.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3067976]No Tooms, like I said, YOU won. You're the master of the spurious correlation. Dig deeper and most of your old, historical claims about Democrats and Republicans are bogus. I've described why in many posts over the last few years. I don't have time to do that anymore. You are right on some points. Republicans did contribute to the Great Depression and Bush's nation building was a fiasco. And I agree with many (but not all) of your criticisms of Trump. Nothing else comes to mind.
In your post above you are right that Lincoln was a Republican. The rest is false or deceptive.[/QUOTE]Now, that's funny! Got any more unsubstantiated and totally contrary to the facts, data and record of actual results opinions to share with us?
FUN FACTS:
Before Obama's and Biden's presidencies I predicted here that their recoveries from the existential disasters each inherited from the outgoing Repub would be historic and remarkable based on the [B]D[/B] next to their names on the ballot considering that Party's consistent record for it over the previous decades. I also predicted economic disaster for Trump's presidency in between and this time around based on the [B]R[/B] next to his name on the ballot considering that Party's consistent record for it over the previous decades.
So far I am 4 for 4 on my predictions for just the most recent Dem vs Repub results. And all the facts, data and record of actual results for the past 100 years certainly bear out my observations. Boy, would my face have been red if Obama and Biden hadn't earned their place on, say, historians' greatest presidents list, Obama in the top ten and Biden only ranking marginally behind one Repub president of the past 100-plus years. And it took that one Repub 2 terms of 8 years to follow through on FDR's Interstate Highway plan in order to marginally out-rank what Biden accomplished in just 4 years.
Oh, and imagine how much crow I would have to eat if Trump's economic and national security decisions hadn't wiped out millions of jobs in his first term, the first president to leave office with fewer jobs in the economy than when he started since fellow Repub Herbert Hoover, guess what, less than 100 years ago. Or if his GDP Growth and jobs creation numbers this time around were stellar instead of paltry and pathetic, especially considering the Trillions he has added to his debt and deficits. At this point it is truly doubtful his classic Repub policies and stewardship will have created a single net gain private-sector job by the last day of his full 8 years in office!
But my face isn't red. Because my predictions were right. And I don't expect to ever in my lifetime have to eat crow on predictions of economic disaster at the hands of any Repub so-called president vs far superior results for the Dem. It doesn't require MAGA Magic to get it right, you know. All anyone really needs to know is which letter is next to their names on the ballot.
As of the 21st of May, 2026, renewables (wind and solar) had more electricity generation, than gas globally, for the first month ever in April 2026. Together, they provided 22% of global electricity in April 2026, compared with 20% from gas.
[B]For the first time, wind and solar generated more electricity than gas worldwide in April 2026,[/B] [URL]https://ember-energy.org/latest-updates/for-the-first-time-wind-and-solar-generated-more-electricity-than-gas-worldwide-in-april-2026/[/URL]
No doubt, it probably won't be a straight line trend, but just as renewables ate coal's lunch, it's coming for gas's lunch money too.
[QUOTE=Canada;3067980]Yes you are 100% correct. Tools s leading on false ad misleading information. You can never catch up to him.[/QUOTE]Yes Canada. Tombs is a smart guy but he must watch too much MSNBC. He may be in the grip of Stockholm Syndrome. He doesn't realize most of the Good Old Time Democrats, like JFK and Bill Clinton in his second term (who was tempered and guided by a Republican Congress) aren't around any longer. The leftist progressives are intent on kicking all the rationale Democrats, like Larry Summers, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema out of the party. Instead of taking economic guidance from wise men like Larry Summers and Robert Rubin, they listen to nut cases like Stephanie Kelton, Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman. The progressives want to make the USA like France or Canada, that is, more equal but a hell of a lot poorer.
You were in the oil business. Did you ever come across a geologist who would somehow manage to always interpret the data to show there was four way, anticlinal closure over his leases? But his wells were always dry holes, and he blamed that on the engineers for screwing up the wells? In this parable Biden Democrats like Tooms are geologists. I like geologists but I wouldn’t invest money with one of them.
This covers it pretty well.
[B]Why Trump and the GOP Love the Poorly Educated:[/B]
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/shorts/KJDxxI77okU?ra=m[/URL]
I hate Americans who retired from job, then coming to live in my France for our free healthcare, when You usually needing more when getting older, so, may cost expensive when never paid tax in France. I hate to pay tax for these people who are not poor at all, but come from a third world country for health. I don t even have a doctor, as long I don t need, but I m happy to live in a so far higher level for healthcare country and so many foreigners want to benefit and too many Americans.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3067958]USA, MAGA led by a geriatric. No peace with Iran, for Ormuz and Ukraine. Failures of golfer.[/QUOTE]I think this pathetic old who is so frustrated about women, just wants to be the center of the world, when, if he was not so dangerous, he would be just so laughable and making USA ridiculous in front of our world.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068147]Yes Canada. Tombs is a smart guy but he must watch too much MSNBC. He may be in the grip of Stockholm Syndrome. He doesn't realize most of the Good Old Time Democrats, like JFK and Bill Clinton in his second term (who was tempered and guided by a Republican Congress) aren't around any longer. The leftist progressives are intent on kicking all the rationale Democrats, like Larry Summers, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema out of the party. Instead of taking economic guidance from wise men like Larry Summers and Robert Rubin, they listen to nut cases like Stephanie Kelton, Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman. The progressives want to make the USA like France or Canada, that is, more equal but a hell of a lot poorer.
You were in the oil business. Did you ever come across a geologist who would somehow manage to always interpret the data to show there was four way, anticlinal closure over his leases? But his wells were always dry holes, and he blamed that on the engineers for screwing up the wells? In this parable Biden Democrats like Tooms are geologists. I like geologists but I wouldnt invest money with one of them.[/QUOTE]Yes there were a lot of these type of people in oil industry but I suppose every industry has similar situations.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068027]Now, that's funny! Got any more unsubstantiated and totally contrary to the facts, data and record of actual results opinions to share with us?
FUN FACTS:
Before Obama's and Biden's presidencies I predicted here that their recoveries from the existential disasters each inherited from the outgoing Repub would be historic and remarkable based on the [B]D[/B] next to their names on the ballot considering that Party's consistent record for it over the previous decades. I also predicted economic disaster for Trump's presidency in between and this time around based on the [B]R[/B] next to his name on the ballot considering that Party's consistent record for it over the previous decades.
So far I am 4 for 4 on my predictions for just the most recent Dem vs Repub results. And all the facts, data and record of actual results for the past 100 years certainly bear out my observations. Boy, would my face have been red if Obama and Biden hadn't earned their place on, say, historians' greatest presidents list, Obama in the top ten and Biden only ranking marginally behind one Repub president of the past 100-plus years. And it took that one Repub 2 terms of 8 years to follow through on FDR's Interstate Highway plan in order to marginally out-rank what Biden accomplished in just 4 years.[/QUOTE]Fun Fact. Everyone has conceded that you have the title for posting the most fabricated lies and tales. You don't have to continue to post these lies. You already won!
[QUOTE=Canada;3068177]Fun Fact. Everyone has conceded that you have the title for posting the most fabricated lies and tales. You don't have to continue to post these lies. You already won![/QUOTE]Dagnabit Canada, I did my best and I still came up short.
QUOTE=EihTooms; This covers it pretty well.
Why Trump and the GOP Love the Poorly Educated:
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/shorts[/URL]
Yes Trump loves the poorly educated, the educated and all American citizens. It is people like you and the democrats who think they are elitists and look down on hard working people. That is why the democrats lost the last election. That is why more blacks and more Hispanics voted for Trump because he does love the poorly educated. Democrats on the other hand think these poorly educated illegals are worthless and are perfect to hire cheaply to mow their grass, clean their houses and pick their fruit. You must be so proud!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068198]Dagnabit Canada, I did my best and I still came up short.[/QUOTE]Since neither you nor a team of MAGAs across the USA and Canada has ever been able to come up with one single program or legislation now revered and appreciated by the majority of the American people for its proven record for making America a better place to live, improve American lives, create historic numbers of jobs, raise the standard of living for most Americans and so on that was proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and Senate even remotely equal to the dozen or more such programs and legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Dems when they controlled all of it, I'll make it much, much easier for you by making it even simpler for even a deadbeat Repub to tackle.
And in this case it plays right into your apparent pro Repub pretend "bothsider / neithersider" source of MAGA Magical Power. One you have returned to over and over again for what you must think is the be all, end all proof that your nit-picky, cherry-picking assessment of Dem vs Repub results is so much better informed than mine.
Here it is, for you and all similar-minded MAGAs; [B]Name the program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by your beloved Repub Nude Grinbitch that you have repeatedly claimed was key or in any way instrumental to Dem Bill Clinton and his 1993 and 1994 Dem-controlled House and Senate producing and presiding over the great recovery from the 12 previous disastrous Repub Administrans' results and directly into one of the greatest economic and jobs creating administrations in USA History.[/B].
Bear in mind these parameters; Dem Bill Clinton ran in 1992 on "reforming welfare as we know it", 3 years before Grinbitch had a thing to say about it. Clinton agreed with many of the things Grinbitch came up with because he came up with them first and ran for president on them. And whatever it was that Grinbitch wanted but Clinton didn't want, Grinbitch went to war over it, shut down the government, lost that war and Clinton's ideas prevailed.
Therefore, "welfare reform" isn't one of them.
The reduction in the Capital Gains Tax from 28% to 20%? Really? Comparing that to what on the list of Dem accomplishments? That didn't even happen until 1997/1998. By then the historic Dem Clinton Administration economic gains and success era was already 5 years old, having started a few months after his and his Dem Congress' Omnibus Budget Reconsiliation Act of 1993 was proposed by, fought for and passed by Dems without a single Repub vote! And, naturally, what followed a couple of years later were the budget surpluses that the next lazy, know nothing, do nothing deadbeat Repub could only think to give away to the wealthiest Americans in hopes of making them wealthier.
The Great Dem / Clinton jobs creation, boomtimes and budget surpluses of the 1990's obviously would have been even greater without Repub Nude Grinbitch and his fellow know nothing, do nothing deadbeat Repubs contributing nothing but dead weight, excess baggage, expensive and wasteful government shutdowns and an unnecessarily more detailed awareness of exactly what Bill Clinton's dick and balls were doing with consenting adult sexually aggressive females than any normal person needed or wanted.
Ok. Your turn. Tell us all about the wonderful programs and legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Nude Grinbitch, your favorite go-to example for how and why Repub Congresses are really the secret behind consistent Dem economic success vs Repub economic disaster for the past 100 years.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068211]QUOTE=EihTooms; This covers it pretty well.
Why Trump and the GOP Love the Poorly Educated:
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/shorts[/URL]
Yes Trump loves the poorly educated, the educated and all American citizens. It is people like you and the democrats who think they are elitists and look down on hard working people. That is why the democrats lost the last election. That is why more blacks and more Hispanics voted for Trump because he does love the poorly educated. Democrats on the other hand think these poorly educated illegals are worthless and are perfect to hire cheaply to mow their grass, clean their houses and pick their fruit. You must be so proud![/QUOTE]Uh. Trump and Repub MAGAs love the poorly educated because they are the suckers that fall for their con so they can win elections and produce their patented Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction.
Trump's disastrous 1st term economy and now into his disastrous 2nd term economy have been worse for the poor, the poorly educated and people who voted for him than anyone.
You know why he loves the idea of across-the-board tariffs replacing the progressive income tax system? Because the hit on the poor, the poorly educated and everyone else you said he "loves" will be exponentially greater than on the top income brackets and super wealthy, the only people he would ever come within arms length of in the first place. Do you think Musk and Trump's other buddies he took with him to that China Begging trip worry about an extra 25% - 50% added to the cost of an automobile or home appliances? The people you claim Trump loves so much sure as hell do.
I haven't read of a Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction or a Repub Pandemic and Worldwide Repub Economic Collapse yet that turned out well for the poor, poorly educated or anyone else on your list of "Loves" for Trump and his fellow Repubs.
I'm sure you can't think of a single program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and the Senate that actually helped and improved the lives of most Americans equal to, say, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, The American Rescue Plan Act, The Inflation Reduction Act, etc etc etc that Dems accomplished when they controlled all of it either, right?
Don't feel bad about that. Native-born USA Citizens who lived in the USA all their lives can't come up with a single one either no matter how much time they've had to research it.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3068128]As of the 21st of May, 2026, renewables (wind and solar) had more electricity generation, than gas globally, for the first month ever in April 2026. Together, they provided 22% of global electricity in April 2026, compared with 20% from gas.
[B]For the first time, wind and solar generated more electricity than gas worldwide in April 2026,[/B] [URL]https://ember-energy.org/latest-updates/for-the-first-time-wind-and-solar-generated-more-electricity-than-gas-worldwide-in-april-2026/[/URL]
No doubt, it probably won't be a straight line trend, but just as renewables ate coal's lunch, it's coming for gas's lunch money too.[/QUOTE]One of the things you and Tooms do not get is how much government gets in the way of things. In Mexico or Brazil, when I studied it, you could buy a converter and power you car on natural gas. The cost was only $800 back then in Mexico or Brazil but was $10,000 in the USA because of government regulations.
So in my dream scenario, I would have a RV that used natural gas, and in Texas, they pay you to fill up with natural gas.
And fuck individual solar panels to charge your batteries. You can charge them for free in Texas on the nights and weekends. [URL]https://cleanskyenergy.com/blog/how-free-nights-and-weekends-electricity-plans-work-in-texas/[/URL]
Oh, and Texas not your dumb Dem state of California is the leader in alternative energy production. [URL]https://insideclimatenews.org/news/09032023/inside-clean-energy-texas-renewables/[/URL]
But, but, but Texas is MAGA country. That should show everyone when it comes to energy Republicans are the smart ones.
Only a dumb Dem like you would cite California and Australia as shining examples of great energy policy. That you are constantly blabbering about cheaper energy and glorify those two places shows you do not know what you are talking about.
To paraphrase:
[QUOTE]"Were gonna love so much, you may even get tired of loving. And youll say, Please, please. Its too much loving. We cant take it anymore, Mr. President, its too much. And Ill say, No it isnt. We have to keep loving. We have to love more! Trumps second inauguration on Monday represented the triumph of a movement years in the making. The loving has begun again.[/QUOTE][B]Analysis: The Iran war has made inequality worse. An end won't fix it.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/30/iran-war-inequality-affordability-ceasefire-analysis.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]A slew of new economic data shows the U.S. economy struggling to shrug off the effects of the war. [B]Americans purchasing power is falling, according to data released Thursday by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.[/b] Americans real disposable income fell 0.2% in March and another 0.5% in April. Americans are getting through the energy crunch due to the war by slashing savings. [B]The personal savings rate hit a dismal 2.6% last month, U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis data showed. Growth in the first quarter was revised downward to just 1.6%. [/b]
But the economy hasnt stalled out, in part because of that disconnect between the top and bottom halves of the population. [B]Big U.S. companies are doing just fine that, after all, is what makes up the S&P 500. It is workers, in aggregate, who are having a tough go of things. Although corporate profits are booming, labors share of gross domestic income has fallen to 51%, the lowest in 79 years that records have been kept, the Wall Street Journal reported. [/b]
The Iran war didnt create American inequality, but it hasnt helped. [B]Researchers at the New York Federal Reserve found that since the war began, people in the Northeast earning less than $40,000 a year have cut back on gas purchases by nearly 10%, while those making over $125,000 have driven on with more disposable income. [/b][/QUOTE]As is always the case with Repub Administrations over the past 100 years and especially Trump's, the poor, poorly educated, middle and lower income brackets are taking it up the ass without the lube.
Oh well.
We tried.
And, no, the choice was NOT ram it up the ass of the poor, the poorly educated and the middle and lower income brackets or get blown up real good by an Iranian Nuke. That, of course, is a blatant, easily debunked, bald-faced, poorly educated-loving Trump lie. Trump himself twice confirmed Iran was in compliance with the Iran Nuclear Deal, where Iran already stated explicitly and in writing that they would never have a nuclear weapon, before Trump tore it up, defunded and removed the inspectors and allowed Iran to do anything it pleased unmonitored for the next nine years. An explicit agreement that Trump is supposedly begging Iran for now when it is highly doubtful anyone in the Trump Administration will ever get one from Iran.
[B]Fact-checking Trump's comments that a 2015 deal gave Iran the right to nuclear weapons.
March 7, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/fact-checking-trumps-comments-that-a-2015-deal-gave-iran-the-right-to-nuclear-weapons?fbclid=IwdGRjcASIBYJjbGNrBIgFN2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHkwKK6Q7yU643zogjPgicCDUu7BRSlt6w2-T3RX2Abo8_T4ckf4LHDWtHEIr_aem_CfpwFq1U-HUbNNVDiv6ATw[/URL]
[QUOTE]By signing the 2015 agreement, [b]Iran "explicitly committed not to have a nuclear weapon, reflecting their NPT commitment not to have one,"[/b] said Richard Nephew, who worked for the U.S. government on Iranian issues during the Biden administration. [B]"The entire purpose of the deal was to make sure that they could not do so."[/b]
While some aspects of the agreement would phase out after 10 to 25 years,[b] "there was no sunset of the non-weapons obligation,"[/b] he said.[/QUOTE]It was right there in the deal. Yes, anyone following Real News will know that Liar Trump's lying Secretary of the Treasury, Liar Scott Bessent, lied recently when he said Liar Trump is the first president ever to get Iran to even talk about nuclear weapons. Not only did President Obama get Iran to talk about them his Administration got them to do what Liar Trump can only beg them to pretty, pretty please do now; agree in writing to never have a nuclear weapon.
Maybe he'll demonstrate his love for the poor and poorly educated by getting Iran to agree in writing to only bomb wealthy and highly educated Americans when his crap negotiations fail miserably to even match the brilliant Obama / Kerry-negotiated agreement he tore up.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068300]Uh. Trump and Repub MAGAs love the poorly educated because they are the suckers that fall for their con so they can win elections and produce their patented Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction.
Trump's disastrous 1st term economy and now into his disastrous 2nd term economy have been worse for the poor, the poorly educated and people who voted for him than anyone.
You know why he loves the idea of across-the-board tariffs replacing the progressive income tax system? Because the hit on the poor, the poorly educated and everyone else you said he "loves" will be exponentially greater than on the top income brackets and super wealthy, the only people he would ever come within arms length of in the first place. Do you think Musk and Trump's other buddies he took with him to that China Begging trip worry about an extra 25% - 50% added to the cost of an automobile or home appliances? The people you claim Trump loves so much sure as hell do..[/QUOTE]Quit your lies on the economy. The USA economy is strong and getting stronger every month even with the war in Iran. Stock market is up, GDP is up, investment in USA from other counties is up trillions, inflation is still lower than the Biden years, wages are up, more people than ever before are employed in the USA. American's 401 K accounts were up over $30,000 in 2025 and are up another $15,000 already this year higher than ever before in history. Obviously you don't have a 401 K or you would be ecstatic about USA economy. Once the war is done, oil is done and interest rates come down there will be a historic boom in the economy. USA is winning and democrats hate it. You hate it and continue to post lies about it just like the fake media. You can live your life in a impoverished country but life in USA is still better regardless what lies you tell.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068343]Quit your lies on the economy. The USA economy is strong and getting stronger every month even with the war in Iran. Stock market is up, GDP is up, investment in USA from other counties is up trillions, inflation is still lower than the Biden years, wages are up, more people than ever before are employed in the USA. American's 401 K accounts were up over $30,000 in 2025 and are up another $15,000 already this year higher than ever before in history. Obviously you don't have a 401 K or you would be ecstatic about USA economy. Once the war is done, oil is done and interest rates come down there will be a historic boom in the economy. USA is winning and democrats hate it. You hate it and continue to post lies about it just like the fake media. You can live your life in a impoverished country but life in USA is still better regardless what lies you tell.[/QUOTE]Did you see the links to Real News sources I posted that soundly and roundly refute your utterly unsubstantiated and easily debunked opinions? Er. I mean your America-hating lies?
Now, as long as you are making stuff up with every post, why haven't you at least given a shot at making something up about so much as a single program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they occupied the White House and the Majority in the House and Senate that remotely came close to benefitting the poor, poorly educated, black people, Latinos, etc that you claim Trump loves so much but Dems don't as any one of the dozen-plus that Dems have under those same circumstances for their Party right up to and including as recently as 4 years ago?
You know, something like, "Trump and his Repub Majority in the House and Senate just gave a free pony to every child of a poor or poorly educated family as a Big Beautiful follow up to the 45% discount tickets for every Kid Rock concert they gave them back in 2019"!
Oh, and for my Nude Grinbitch challenge, how about something like, "Everybody remembers when Nude Grinbitch and his Repub Congressional Majority for a few years under Clinton demanded and sent a Big Beautiful scratch and sniff photo of Clinton's dick and balls to every poor and poorly educated Repub in every Repub gerrymandered district in the country so they could enjoy the same rewards all of their efforts and hard work during those years produced and were gifted to them"!
That would be fun. We all know you can do it.
BTW, since you read every word of every post I make here, you must remember when I mentioned recently that there was one issue cited by the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling cite for which Trump had yet to rate greater than 50% Disapproval on their poll of polls for such things, right? That issue was Crime.
Well, good news! Now the poor, the poorly educated, the well educated, middle income and top income brackets, black people, Latinos, probably many former MAGAs and damn near everyone in the USA has given Trump 2.0 a chance to impress and impress it has such that today Trump is earning greater than 50% Disapproval on every issue the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP deems worth asking anyone and everyone about, including Crime!
[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;3068343]Quit your lies on the economy. The USA economy is strong and getting stronger every month even with the war in Iran. Stock market is up, GDP is up, investment in USA from other counties is up trillions, inflation is still lower than the Biden years, wages are up, more people than ever before are employed in the USA. American's 401 K accounts were up over $30,000 in 2025 and are up another $15,000 already this year higher than ever before in history. Obviously you don't have a 401 K or you would be ecstatic about USA economy. Once the war is done, oil is done and interest rates come down there will be a historic boom in the economy. USA is winning and democrats hate it. You hate it and continue to post lies about it just like the fake media. You can live your life in a impoverished country but life in USA is still better regardless what lies you tell.[/QUOTE]So, you are quite rich and supporting Trump, but I'm really not sure majority of Americans experience same like you about inflation, gas, job. Majority have to talk for mid terms, if USA under Trump are still a democracy?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068300]Uh. Trump and Repub MAGAs love the poorly educated because they are the suckers that fall for their con so they can win elections and produce their patented Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction.
Trump's disastrous 1st term economy and now into his disastrous 2nd term economy have been worse for the poor, the poorly educated and people who voted for him than anyone.
You know why he loves the idea of across-the-board tariffs replacing the progressive income tax system? Because the hit on the poor, the poorly educated and everyone else you said he "loves" will be exponentially greater than on the top income brackets and super wealthy, the only people he would ever come within arms length of in the first place. Do you think Musk and Trump's other buddies he took with him to that China Begging trip worry about an extra 25% - 50% added to the cost of an automobile or home appliances? The people you claim Trump loves so much sure as hell do.
I haven't read of a Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction or a Repub Pandemic and Worldwide Repub Economic Collapse yet that turned out well for the poor, poorly educated or anyone else on your list of "Loves" for Trump and his fellow Repubs.
I'm sure you can't think of a single program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and the Senate that actually helped and improved the lives of most Americans equal to, say, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, The American Rescue Plan Act, The Inflation Reduction Act, etc etc etc that Dems accomplished when they controlled all of it either, right?
Don't feel bad about that. Native-born USA Citizens who lived in the USA all their lives can't come up with a single one either no matter how much time they've had to research it.[/QUOTE]So Trump came up with tariffs so he could screw the poor. That makes as much sense as my satirical claim that Lyndon Johnson escalated the Vietnam War because he was bloodthirsty and wanted to increase taxes and the size of government. In other words, it's complete baloney.
Trump did it because he thought it would help the workingman and American manufacturers. That thought was a carryover from his days as a Democrat. For my entire adult life up until the election of Trump, Democrats were more inclined to support tariffs and Republicans free trade. That was because labor unions were a core constituency of the Democratic Party. Clinton was an exception, but he had to drag his party kicking and screaming to approve NAFTA and China's accession to the WTO. (Aside: That's probably why the Marquesa hates Clinton almost as much as he hates me.) In fact, a majority of Congressional Democrats voted against both.
Yeah, I think Trump's tariffs for the most part were stupid. But they maybe shaved 3/4 of one percent off of GDP. That's not as bad as sending 1.4 million young men and women to Vietnam and having 37,500 of them come back in body bags. Trump and LBJ though had good intentions. Their problem was bad judgement.
Did Biden get rid of Trump's tariffs on toys, clothes, consumer electronics and the like, which only served to raise prices for the workingman, when he came to office? No he did not. Did Obama or Biden encourage manufacturing and mining of products that are essential to American strategic interest like rare earth minerals and magnets and oil and gas, through tariffs, deregulation, or otherwise? For the most part they did not. Yeah, Trump fucked up. But so did Democrats.
The rest of your post contains lots more baloney, which we've rebutted many times in the past. I think I will come back and take another whack at the nonsense about all the great legislation passed by Democrats. No time tonight though.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068385]So Trump came up with tariffs so he could screw the poor. That makes as much sense as my satirical claim that Lyndon Johnson escalated the Vietnam War because he was bloodthirsty and wanted to increase taxes and the size of government. In other words, it's complete baloney.
Trump did it because he thought it would help the workingman and American manufacturers. That thought was a carryover from his days as a Democrat. For my entire adult life up until the election of Trump, Democrats were more inclined to support tariffs and Republicans free trade. That was because labor unions were a core constituency of the Democratic Party. Clinton was an exception, but he had to drag his party kicking and screaming to approve NAFTA and China's accession to the WTO. (Aside: That's probably why the Marquesa hates Clinton almost as much as he hates me.) In fact, a majority of Congressional Democrats voted against both.
Yeah, I think Trump's tariffs for the most part were stupid. But they maybe shaved 3/4 of one percent off of GDP. That's not as bad as sending 1.4 million young men and women to Vietnam and having 37,500 of them come back in body bags. Trump and LBJ though had good intentions. Their problem was bad judgement.
Did Biden get rid of Trump's tariffs on toys, clothes, consumer electronics and the like, which only served to raise prices for the workingman, when he came to office? No he did not. Did Obama or Biden encourage manufacturing and mining of products that are essential to American strategic interest like rare earth minerals and magnets and oil and gas, through tariffs, deregulation, or otherwise? For the most part they did not. Yeah, Trump fucked up. But so did Democrats.
The rest of your post contains lots more baloney, which we've rebutted many times in the past. I think I will come back and take another whack at the nonsense about all the great legislation passed by Democrats. No time tonight though.[/QUOTE]Whatever tariffs and taxes Dems put into the USA economy, they contributed to producing every great economic recovery, great economic expansion or historic jobs creation of the past 100 years and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions or historic jobs destruction.
Obviously.
By stark contrast, whatever tariffs and taxes Repubs put into the USA economy, they contributed to producing every Great Depression, Great Recession or historic jobs destruction of the past 100 years and none of the great economic recoveries, great economic expansions or historic jobs creation.
Obviously.
Not every tariff is the same. Not every tax increase or tax cut is the same.
You will have to change every major economic up and down and who was in office getting his way of the past century in order to be right for even one minute.
And that can not happen no matter how much MAGA Magic you think exists in the world.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068381]So, you are quite rich and supporting Trump, but I'm really not sure majority of Americans experience same like you about inflation, gas, job. Majority have to talk for mid terms, if USA under Trump are still a democracy?[/QUOTE]Even they are very rich, but most American artists and not only the boss Bruce Springsteen, don't seem to support Trump and his behavior and actions.
This makes much, much more sense than any utterly unsupportable claim that Trump "means well" and is genuinely trying to improve the USA economy and the lives of ordinary Americans rather than make himself, his Crime Family and his Globalist Billionaire buddies wealther through every conceivable scam possible.
A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]The evidence that Trump is a sadist and enjoys torturing the vulnerable[/b]
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Public and professional scrutiny regarding Donald Trumps behavior has led multiple mental health experts, political commentators, and critics to argue that he exhibits traits of malignant narcissisma psychological profile that includes[b] sadism, ant****ial behavior, and paranoia.[/b]
While critics interpret specific public actions as evidence of cruelty, his supporters often view these same behaviors as unfiltered political incorrectness, a rejection of politeness, or retaliatory counter-punching against adversaries.
[B]The arguments surrounding this topic generally focus on specific public incidents, policy decisions, and professional psychological evaluations.[/b]
1. Public Mimicry and Rhetoric. Critics frequently cite Trumps public mockery of vulnerable or injured individuals as direct evidence of a lack of empathy and a desire to humiliate others:Mocking a Disabled Reporter: At a 2015 campaign rally, Trump physically imitated New York Times reporter Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis. Trump waved his arms erratically and changed his voice to mimic Kovaleski. Trump later denied he was mocking Kovaleski's disability, claiming he was simply portraying a flustered reporter.Targeting John McCain: Trump repeatedly mocked the late Senator John McCain, a former prisoner of war who sustained permanent injuries from torture. During a 2024 campaign event, Trump explicitly imitated McCain's physical inability to lift his arm fully.Public Humiliation as a Strategy: Commentators note that Trump heavily incorporates personal insults, bullying language, and threats into his public discourse to demean women, political opponents, and members of his own staff.
2. Professional Psychological Assessments. Because the American Psychological Associations "Goldwater Rule" discourages diagnosing public figures from afar, official medical consensus does not exist.[b] However, numerous independent mental health professionals have publicly analyzed his behavior:The "Duty to Warn" Movement: A coalition of thousands of mental health professionals published assessments arguing that Trump poses a danger due to underlying psychological instability. [/B]Malignant Narcissism Assertions: Psychologists like Dr. John Gartner have argued that Trump displays the classic quartet of malignant narcissism: [b]narcissism, paranoia, ant****ial behavior, and sadism. [/b]Gartner and other analysts contend that Trump derives a visible sense of power and psychological gratification ("narcissistic supply") from causing distress, scaring audiences, or taking revenge.
Voter Perceptions: A study published in Clinical Psychological Science found that both liberal and conservative voters[b]including some who voted for himperceived Trump as scoring abnormally high in traits associated with sadistic and narcissistic personality disorders.[/b]
3. Policy Directions and Views on Interrogation. Critics and human rights organizations point to specific administrative actions and stated viewpoints as systemic evidence of an[b] indifference to human suffering:[/b] Endorsement of Interrogation Tactics: During his political career, [b]Trump has vocally supported the use of waterboarding and other severe interrogation methods, asserting that "torture works". He subsequently appointed officials, such as Gina Haspel to head the CIA, who had past involvement with post-9/11 "black site" interrogation programs.[/b] Immigration Policies: Legal and human rights advocates have labeled policies like the 2018 family separation policy at the southern U.S. border as inherently cruel, arguing that the resulting trauma inflicted on migrant children was used deliberately as a deterrent.Domestic Cuts: [b]Political opponents have occasionally characterized conservative efforts to scale back nutrition assistance programs (like SNAP) or healthcare access as "sadistic," viewing them as policy decisions that knowingly harm low-income families and children.[/b]
The Counter-Perspective. Supporters and defenders strongly reject the label of sadism. They maintain that Trumps aggressive style is a calculated form of entertainment and political showmanship meant to challenge establishment norms. From this perspective, his insults are not meant to torture the helpless, but are rather a defensive or strategic "counter-punch" against media figures, political institutions, and elites who attack him first. Donald Trump's passion for cruelty - The ConversationOct 2, 2560 BE Published: October 2, 2017 7:28pm EDT Updated: October 3, 2017 10:41am EDT. https://theconversation.com/donald-trumps-passion-for-cruelty-84819. https://theconv...The ConversationWhy Trump is bad news for human rights and the ban on tortureJan 15, 2568 BE 15 January 2025. As Donald Trump begins his second presidency, his disregard for human rights has shown that we must be loud and clear in saying that torture is...Freedom from TortureTrump's Torture Legacy: Isolating, Incarcerating, and Inflicting Harm Upon ...*[/QUOTE]LOL. Of course, that supposed "Counter-Perspective" is laughable. None of that aggressive style has produced any different result over the 5 1/2 years of Trump's miserable presidency than if he had flat out worn a hood and cranked up the rack for America, the American people and everyone else in the World except his Billionaire brothers and sisters in grift.
Yep. Few economic results would make Trump happier than for middle and low income Americans to take the biggest hit in carrying the load with across-the-board tariffs to pay back his record high debt and deficits rather than a progressive income tax system while he and his Billionaire buddies kick back and not even notice an additional 25% - 50% or, what the hell why not make it a 100%, increase in the price of goods.
Oh, BTW, in case anyone is so blitheringly ignorant about how big business works in a complex national and global economy not to understand why Biden wouldn't immediately remove all the tariffs Trump imposed on American businesses and consumers in his first term; uh. It turns out whip-sawing prices on businesses from one moment to the next is precisely the wrong thing to do even if a tariff on this or that product is stupid. After a tariff has been imposed on a product it can alter the entire manufacturing, shipping, wholesale / retail and even the compensation factors for the people who sell it. Unless it is immediately destroying the particular industry it is best to let those things play out in the marketplace rather than whip-saw the entire supply-chain into utter confusion by removing them on a whim.
Of course, the latter is exactly what Trump has done with his tariffs; created utter confusion and economic paralysis in the supply-chains with one whip-saw after another on all the factors every time he farts. Which is apparently quite often these days.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068381]So, you are quite rich and supporting Trump, but I'm really not sure majority of Americans experience same like you about inflation, gas, job. Majority have to talk for mid terms, if USA under Trump are still a democracy?[/QUOTE]I agree Trump economy is good for the majority of the people but it obviously is not good for the democrats or illegals. The lazy democrats who don't have conventional jobs with employers offering 401 K benefits but are getting paid to protest are not happy with a good economy. The people paying the protesters do not offer benefits. All the lazy democrats who refuse to work that are receiving welfare and government handouts aren't happy with Trump economy. But millions of retired Americans living on a fixed income are very happy seeing their fixed income going up 10-20%. Don't worry about USA being a democracy. Trump has saved us from Biden fiasco. I don't agree with about 25% of what Trump does but USA is 100% better than the Biden years.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068377]Did you see the links to Real News sources I posted that soundly and roundly refute your utterly unsubstantiated and easily debunked opinions? Er. I mean your America-hating lies?
Now, as long as you are making stuff up with every post, why haven't you at least given a shot at making something up about so much as a single program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they occupied the White House and the Majority in the House and Senate that remotely came close to benefitting the poor, poorly educated, black people, Latinos, etc that you claim Trump loves so much but Dems don't as any one of the dozen-plus that Dems have under those same circumstances for their Party right up to and including as recently as 4 years ago?
You know, something like, "Trump and his Repub Majority in the House and Senate just gave a free pony to every child of a poor or poorly educated family as a Big Beautiful follow up to the 45% discount tickets for every Kid Rock concert they gave them back in 2019"![/QUOTE]I don't need fake news links on my posts. If the person reading the posts isn't smart enough to research it on his own I don't care. Nobody even looks at your fake links. They know if you posted it that it was irrelevant. So please stop providing those links. If you have an opinion say it. It may be right or wrong but at least the smart people can do their own study on it. USA has recovered from the Biden destruction of America nicely. America still has a ways to go but it finally is on the right track.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068448]I agree Trump economy is good for the majority of the people but it obviously is not good for the democrats or illegals. The lazy democrats who don't have conventional jobs with employers offering 401 K benefits but are getting paid to protest are not happy with a good economy. The people paying the protesters do not offer benefits. All the lazy democrats who refuse to work that are receiving welfare and government handouts aren't happy with Trump economy. But millions of retired Americans living on a fixed income are very happy seeing their fixed income going up 10-20%. Don't worry about USA being a democracy. Trump has saved us from Biden fiasco. I don't agree with about 25% of what Trump does but USA is 100% better than the Biden years.[/QUOTE]Trump didn't show much how he respect democracy, when he ordered to destroy Capitol, after being defeated by Biden. I know life is very expensive in USA and in big cities like New York, but I wonder which percentage of people working make 400 000 USD per year? I'm not American, but I have huge doubt much more than 5%, so, Trump politics is probably for a small minority of Americans or dumb, when big majority may become poorer under inflation, gas, lost jobs. But a rich and a poor have same right to vote, if real democracy.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068450]I don't need fake news links on my posts. If the person reading the posts isn't smart enough to research it on his own I don't care. Nobody even looks at your fake links. They know if you posted it that it was irrelevant. So please stop providing those links. If you have an opinion say it. It may be right or wrong but at least the smart people can do their own study on it. USA has recovered from the Biden destruction of America nicely. America still has a ways to go but it finally is on the right track.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I read maybe 10% of their links. They demand references for everything. Of course they only believe articles that support their points of view though. They link to the Guardian a lot.
It's interesting to see their newfound acceptance of AI. Before they'the automatically reject anything I posted from Gemini or ChatGPT. I guess they discovered that if their query were something like, "Please help me make a case that Republicans, bothsiders and neithersiders are heartless, scum-sucking, wife beating, hypocritical, mass-murdering, dictatorial crooks and liars," AI could help make that case. Generating partisan propaganda is all in a day's work for Gemini, and certain to generate less liability than some of the other intelligence it provides, like providing instructions and encouragement for suicide.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068300]
I'm sure you can't think of a single program or legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and the Senate that actually helped and improved the lives of most Americans equal to, say, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, The American Rescue Plan Act, The Inflation Reduction Act, etc etc etc that Dems accomplished when they controlled all of it either, right?
Don't feel bad about that. Native-born USA Citizens who lived in the USA all their lives can't come up with a single one either no matter how much time they've had to research it.[/QUOTE]Guess how many years Republicans controlled the presidency, the Senate and the House from the election of Franklin Delano Roosevelt to the election of George W. Bush? That's from January of 1933 to December of 2000, or 68 years.
The answer is two. So, to meet your criteria, that a Republican had to occupy the presidency and Republicans had to hold a majority in the House and Senate, Republicans had a grand total of two years between 1933 and 2000 to accomplish grand legislation beloved by so many Americans.
Why did Republicans only control all 3 branches of government for 2 years? Well, partly it was because Democrats in statehouses and the courts rigged the system to favor Democrats in the House. See the last column in this table from the Democrat's Favorite Think Tank, the Brookings Institute:
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalstats_ch2_tbl2.pdf[/URL]
On average, from 1946 to 2020, Democrats got 5% more seats in the House than they deserved based on the popular vote for the House.
When Eisenhower pushed for Civil Rights reform, he was stymied at every point by intransigent Southern Democrats in Congress. He did manage to get the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 passed, with unanimous votes in favor by Republican Senators and votes against by substantial minorities of Democrats. James Eastland (Democrat-Mississippi), the segregationist chairman of the Judiciary Committee the bills had to pass through, watered down the legislation, as did southern Democrat Senators with floor votes. Ironically, LBJ, who was given credit for the better known and more comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, was complicit in this. As Senate Majority Leader, he decided to route the legislation through segregationist Eastland's committee, well aware that Eastland would maintain the status quo in the south.
And, please note that the 1964 and 1965 civil rights legislation was passed with more support, in percentage terms, from Republicans than Democrats.
In your 20 or 30 posts here lauding Democrats for all the great legislation they passed, the only two bills we agree on are the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. And the measures prescribed by this legislation, including the end of segregation, would have occurred years earlier if not for Democrats.
Your other great Democratic Party legislation falls into several categories. One is corporate pork, like the Inflation Reduction Act. Another is legislation that backfired, being the American Rescue Plan which contributed to inflation, reduction in purchasing power for American workers, and big Democratic Party losses in the 2024 elections. A third is poorly designed, underfunded programs, like Social Security. The actuarial deficit for Social Security is $25.1 trillion over the next 75 years. FDR set this up like a defined benefit pension, when a defined contribution plan would have worked much better. Australia's superannuation scheme is the gold standard. People have their own retirement accounts, and realize much larger returns on their retirement contributions than Americans on social security do. The final and fourth category are programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Obamacare that have contributed to a truly fucked up system for medical care. We're spending 18% of GDP on healthcare, much more than any other developed country. And until recent years outcomes were on the same level as Cuba's. We're still behind Albania, Panama and Costa Rica in terms of lifespan. We dont have universal healthcare. When my father was on Medicare, the health care companies that milk the system were always trying to throw free stuff at us that we didn't really need, thanks to the generosity of the federal government. Want a free hospital bed? How about an electric wheelchair? And that went on and on.
As to the third and fourth categories of beloved Democrat legislation, they're going to bankrupt the country. Over 75 years, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security have $85 trillion in liabilities that are either unfunded or will have to come out of general-fund transfers from the taxpayers' pockets. The third and fourth categories also favor baby boomers, while fucking over future generations, which is perhaps the reason why these huge Ponzi schemes are indeed so beloved by some retirees. Gemini or ChatGPT told me that you'the have to make $250,000 to $400,000 per year for your and your employer's payroll contributions, adjusted for inflation, to actually pay for what the average person drags out of Medicare.
As to significant, positive legislation passed during those few years when Republicans controlled all three branches of government, I'd point out Bush's No Child Left Behind and Trump's First Step Act. Now these aren't going to fit your criteria for great legislation, because they didn't cost huge amounts of money. And instead of helping baby boomers, they gave a leg up predominantly to poor children and young black men. I would think that by your criteria though Bush's Medicare Part D and Trump's upcoming bipartisan housing bill would fit right in, with the costly, poorly designed legislation that you love.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068492]Yeah, I read maybe 10% of their links. They demand references for everything. Of course they only believe articles that support their points of view though. They link to the Guardian a lot.
It's interesting to see their newfound acceptance of AI. Before they'the automatically reject anything I posted from Gemini or ChatGPT. I guess they discovered that if their query were something like, "Please help me make a case that Republicans, bothsiders and neithersiders are heartless, scum-sucking, wife beating, hypocritical, mass-murdering, dictatorial crooks and liars," AI could help make that case. Generating partisan propaganda is all in a day's work for Gemini, and certain to generate less liability than some of the other intelligence it provides, like providing instructions and encouragement for suicide.[/QUOTE]The democrats today have no common sense. They look for the worse possible outcome in anything the Trump administration does. If there is a real success by the administration they won't comment or talk about it. They hope USA fails because they can't accept the facts that Biden almost destroyed America. Other countries opened up immigration like Biden did and they are facing the consequences of it today. UK and Germany and unfortunately Canada have hurt their people, economy and lifestyle by their immigration failures over the past 5 years. Amazing that Obama immigration policy was similar to Trump policy and Obama deported 3,000,000 illegals and there were zero protests and no anti ice propaganda. USA is winning. Not great yet but getting better and better everyday and 100% better than Biden disaster.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068381]So, you are quite rich and supporting Trump, but I'm really not sure majority of Americans experience same like you about inflation, gas, job. Majority have to talk for mid terms, if USA under Trump are still a democracy?[/QUOTE]You aren't American and don't live in USA. The majority of Americans lives are getting better slowly with massive new factories being built and thousands more high paying jobs. Wages are up much more than the short term inflation. If you lived in USA you would be able to understand this.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068450]I don't need fake news links on my posts. [B]If the person reading the posts isn't smart enough to research it on his own I don't care.[/b] Nobody even looks at your fake links. They know if you posted it that it was irrelevant. So please stop providing those links. If you have an opinion say it. It may be right or wrong but at least the smart people can do their own study on it. USA has recovered from the Biden destruction of America nicely. America still has a ways to go but it finally is on the right track.[/QUOTE]We do research what you claim on our own and invariably discover everything you claim is a lie. And then we post actual Real News links to prove it.
Oh, BTW, I have tried and apparently failed to inform Tiny12 that the only reason we post links to sources like The Guardian is because at times many of the other sources that report and verify the same points we make, such as The New York Times, the LOS Angeles Times, Reuters, AP, etc, are locked behind a pay wall and cannot be accessed easily on a message board like this. The Guardian, Vox and a couple of other sources do a fine job of re-posting the exact same Real News reports but not behind a pay wall.
Please apply your powerful sway over him to explain that to him, which I obviously can not.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068498]Guess how many years Republicans controlled the presidency, the Senate and the House from the election of Franklin Delano Roosevelt to the election of George W. Bush? That's from January of 1933 to December of 2000, or 68 years.
The answer is two. So, to meet your criteria, that a Republican had to occupy the presidency and Republicans had to hold a majority in the House and Senate, Republicans had a grand total of two years between 1933 and 2000 to accomplish grand legislation beloved by so many Americans.
Why did Republicans only control all 3 branches of government for 2 years? Well, partly it was because Democrats in statehouses and the courts rigged the system to favor Democrats in the House. See the last column in this table from the Democrat's Favorite Think Tank, the Brookings Institute:
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalstats_ch2_tbl2.pdf[/URL]
On average, from 1946 to 2020, Democrats got 5% more seats in the House than they deserved based on the popular vote for the House.
When Eisenhower pushed for Civil Rights reform, he was stymied at every point by intransigent Southern Democrats in Congress. He did manage to get the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 passed, with unanimous votes in favor by Republican Senators and votes against by substantial minorities of Democrats. James Eastland (Democrat-Mississippi), the segregationist chairman of the Judiciary Committee the bills had to pass through, watered down the legislation, as did southern Democrat Senators with floor votes. Ironically, LBJ, who was given credit for the better known and more comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, was complicit in this. As Senate Majority Leader, he decided to route the legislation through segregationist Eastland's committee, well aware that Eastland would maintain the status quo in the south.
And, please note that the 1964 and 1965 civil rights legislation was passed with more support, in percentage terms, from Republicans than Democrats.
In your 20 or 30 posts here lauding Democrats for all the great legislation they passed, the only two bills we agree on are the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. And the measures prescribed by this legislation, including the end of segregation, would have occurred years earlier if not for Democrats.
Your other great Democratic Party legislation falls into several categories. One is corporate pork, like the Inflation Reduction Act. Another is legislation that backfired, being the American Rescue Plan which contributed to inflation, reduction in purchasing power for American workers, and big Democratic Party losses in the 2024 elections. A third is poorly designed, underfunded programs, like Social Security. The actuarial deficit for Social Security is $25.1 trillion over the next 75 years. FDR set this up like a defined benefit pension, when a defined contribution plan would have worked much better. Australia's superannuation scheme is the gold standard. People have their own retirement accounts, and realize much larger returns on their retirement contributions than Americans on social security do. The final and fourth category are programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Obamacare that have contributed to a truly fucked up system for medical care. We're spending 18% of GDP on healthcare, much more than any other developed country. And until recent years outcomes were on the same level as Cuba's. We're still behind Albania, Panama and Costa Rica in terms of lifespan. We dont have universal healthcare. When my father was on Medicare, the health care companies that milk the system were always trying to throw free stuff at us that we didn't really need, thanks to the generosity of the federal government. Want a free hospital bed? How about an electric wheelchair? And that went on and on.
As to the third and fourth categories of beloved Democrat legislation, they're going to bankrupt the country. Over 75 years, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security have $85 trillion in liabilities that are either unfunded or will have to come out of general-fund transfers from the taxpayers' pockets. The third and fourth categories also favor baby boomers, while fucking over future generations, which is perhaps the reason why these huge Ponzi schemes are indeed so beloved by some retirees. Gemini or ChatGPT told me that you'the have to make $250,000 to $400,000 per year for your and your employer's payroll contributions, adjusted for inflation, to actually pay for what the average person drags out of Medicare.[/QUOTE]The reason Repubs were not allowed to control everything by a much smarter electorate except for 2 years from the election of FDR until GW Bush was because when the electorate foolishly allowed Repubs to control everything for 8 years prior to FDR their still favorite policies plunged America and the rest of the World into The Great Repub Depression and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction. I hear that effected black people, kids, the poor and poorly educated rather negatively.
And then when they foolishly gave it to GW Bush, we got two Recessions, one being another Great Repub Recession, The Great Repub Financial Crisis, a Global Repub Economic Collapse and more Massive Repub Jobs Destruction. Again, as I recall that effected black people, kids, the poor and poorly educated rather negatively.
The American electorate foolishly doing it again for Trump gave us another Deep Repub Recession, a deadly Pandemic that killed at least a million Americans and millions more around the World, worldwide Repub Economic and Supply-Chain Collapse, Millions of jobs wiped out and the inevitable and unavoidable global inflation that hit and lingered on double and triple digit rates for half of the economies on the planet. And, yeah, again I understand it effected black people, kids, the poor and poorly educated rather negatively. Have you heard that as well?
So you can't name anything other than those results when Repubs controlled everything over the past 100 years that an ordinary person would notice. Yeah, the interesting No Child Left Behind that I don't recall requiring anyone needing to fight against Dems to get passed but I do recall Repubs fighting hard to cut it vs Dems defending it later. The same with the First Step Act. Totally bi-partisan from the start. And of course it flies in the face of everything Trump / MAGAs have done and tried with expansion of incarceration facilities and lack of due process ever since.
Still nothing as positive as what Clinton got done in 2 years, Obama got done in 2 years and Biden got done in 2 years. See, since the Dems committed the unforgivable crime in Wingers' minds by proposing, fighting for and passing the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and Medicaid in the 1960's, which I hear was pretty good for black people, kids, the poor and poorly educated, no Dem has been gifted with more than 2 years in the White House and the Majority in the House and Senate since Carter either.
But I'm sure you don't want to compare economic results and jobs creation under the 3 Dem presidents since Carter as a result of just 2 years controling everything for each vs economic results and jobs creation after 2 years of Repub control under GW Bush, Trump1 and so far under Trump2, do you?
Hmm. Still zip, nada, nothing for Nude Grinbitch and his 5 year Repub control of the House under Clinton except Clinton going ahead with his planned and promised Welfare Reform despite Grinbitch sutting down the government in order to stifle the already booming Clinton / Dem economy when he got there and those scratch and sniff photos of Clinton's dick and balls from their constant investigations of where they had been, I see.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068501]The democrats today have no common sense. They look for the worse possible outcome in anything the Trump administration does. If there is a real success by the administration they won't comment or talk about it. They hope USA fails because they can't accept the facts that Biden almost destroyed America. Other countries opened up immigration like Biden did and they are facing the consequences of it today. UK and Germany and unfortunately Canada have hurt their people, economy and lifestyle by their immigration failures over the past 5 years. Amazing that Obama immigration policy was similar to Trump policy and Obama deported 3,000,000 illegals and there were zero protests and no anti ice propaganda. USA is winning. Not great yet but getting better and better everyday and 100% better than Biden disaster.[/QUOTE]If you just look what Trump did and not what he said, he did ok up until November, 2020. Cutting the corporate income tax, deregulation, and Operation Warp Speed were all positive. The willy nilly tariffs were negative. He put the USA on a path to exit Afghanistan, although he didn't quite finish that before his time was up.
After the 2020 election, things fell apart. He should have gracefully accepted the result. I'm not happy with his performance in his 2nd term. The tariff thing got even worse. Putting Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem in charge of deportations was a big mistake. Then there were the smaller issues like lawfare against political opponents (although Comey and James were guilty of waging lawfare themselves) and Trump's relatives taking advantage of his position to make out like bandits. Trump doesn't have an adult in the room anymore, like Gary Cohn or Steven Mnuchin, to save him from his worst instincts. He was really too old to be running for president the second time around. The Republican primary voters should have learned that from watching Biden.
That said, what's your choice? I voted for the Libertarian, not Trump, in all three elections. But given a choice between living in a country ruled by progressive Democrats who would make the USA like France and Trump, I'the pick Trump. The Democratic Party has become increasingly progressive. It's marginalizing the moderates. We were damn lucky that Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema held the balance of power in 2021 and 2022. I don't think we'll be so lucky next time. And I fear that Trump is chasing voters into the Democrats' arms. He's still extremely popular here in God's country. But he's managed to piss off a lot of Hispanics and women. Also, the same thing's happening now that caused the Democrats to lose big in 2024. Prices are going up faster than wages, and you can pin part of the blame on tariffs and operation Epic Fury. While I would maintain the jury is still out on Trump's Iranian strategy, it's not going to help come election time in November.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068502]The majority of Americans lives are getting better slowly with massive new factories being built and thousands more high paying jobs. Wages are up much more than the short term inflation. If you lived in USA you would be able to understand this.[/QUOTE]This is not what my friends report to me. My friends are counting down to retirement and have a half a dozen other countries they plan to spend their time in when they do.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068502]You aren't American and don't live in USA. The majority of Americans lives are getting better slowly with massive new factories being built and thousands more high paying jobs. Wages are up much more than the short term inflation. If you lived in USA you would be able to understand this.[/QUOTE]But I experience how Trump impact my activity = job and inflation I pay, and I think same for billions. Except for Netanyahou, Putin and You, the worst ever president of USA for billions people on our planet. I look forward his end, when doctor wrote he has too much weight, not good for health and really dreaming for mid terms. Our planet will be better without him.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068502]You aren't American and don't live in USA. The majority of Americans lives are getting better slowly with massive new factories being built and thousands more high paying jobs. Wages are up much more than the short term inflation. If you lived in USA you would be able to understand this.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you should stop lying about USA Manufacturing! It is you that is clueless as to how well or badly in this case, [I]U.S. Manufacturing[/I] is doing, ever since the MAGA Fuhrer, took office.
Yet again more baseless MAGA claims, from one, who know even less about his own country. [B]FACT Check: Manufacturing Construction Spending Declines Under Trump,[/B] Feb 6th, 2025. [URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2026/02/manufacturing-construction-spending-declines-under-trump/[/URL].
Perhaps instead of taking everything on gullible faith, that your MAGA Fuhrer belches out of of his Epstein pedo sympathizer's mouth [I][b]as he lied and claimed "factory construction is up by 41%,",[/b][/I] you should do your damn homework for real. You'd see just how much you're being sucked into believing his lies.
Along with the farmers, small businesses and trucking industry, even more companies are suffering bankruptcies and failure under the MAGA President, and this time, it's the USA Solar industry.
So it's not just the Chinese solar industry, losing billions, but now the [I]U.S. solar industry,[/I] with over 200 contractors and companies, have collapsed, representing tens of billions of dollars in erased market value, canceled large-scale investments, and bankrupt corporate liabilities. [URL]https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/sunpower-a-solar-icon-once-valued-in-the-billions-files-for-bankruptcy[/URL]
So while one solar industry suffers from a brutal self-inflicted price war and continues to provide solar to the world, but operates at a loss, the other solar market, struggles and suffers from more bankruptcies, dumbass industry lies and more brutal self-inflicted heavy-handed weight of bad bills and uncertain policy making.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068650]But I experience how Trump impact my activity = job and inflation I pay, and I think same for billions. Except for Netanyahou, Putin and You, the worst ever president of USA for billions people on our planet. I look forward his end, when doctor wrote he has too much weight, not good for health and really dreaming for mid terms. Our planet will be better without him.[/QUOTE]That is your opinion. A presidents policies will never satisfy everyone. Most of my friends are retired and living on a fixed income. They worked hard and funded their 401 k or retirement. They have seen there investments increase over the last 16 months by $45000 to $100,000. That is huge for retired people. Millions of Americans have seen their retirement funds dramatically increase making their life better. You obviously support Iran and terrorism but eliminating terrorism in the world is a good thing for billions of people. Even the majority of Iranians like Trump because he is their only chance for freedom for their children and grandchildren. Not everything Trump does is ideal but it is just so much better than what we would have had with Harris or Biden. I am sorry it isn't great for you.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3068634]This is not what my friends report to me. My friends are counting down to retirement and have a half a dozen other countries they plan to spend their time in when they do.[/QUOTE]Most of my friends have retired and living on a fixed income also. They survived the Biden disaster of highest inflation in history and welcome the changes Trump did. They have seen their retirement accounts and 401 k increase dramatically over the last 16 months. Most in the $45000 to $100,000 range but some significantly more. Trump also eliminated taxes on social security for retired people. There are many countries I visit every year but I have not seen any as good as USA yet.
Obviously your friends did not put enough money in retirement to live comfortably. Many people didn't work hard and put away for retirement and yes they are struggling but no income tax helps a little.
No my friends are smart like me and want to follow the example of a better life. The post below illustrates the flaw in the thinking of my fellow citizen.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068667]Most of my friends have retired and living on a fixed income also. They survived the Biden disaster of highest inflation in history and welcome the changes Trump did. They have seen their retirement accounts and 401 k increase dramatically over the last 16 months. Most in the $45000 to $100,000 range but some significantly more. Trump also eliminated taxes on social security for retired people. [/QUOTE]1. The flaw, money is everything.
2. The Flaw is thinking the POTUS has anything to do with stock market values.
3. The Flaw is confusing the political with economics.
[B]Politics mean nothing in this world today![/B]
[QUOTE=Canada;3068667]There are many countries I visit every year but I have not seen any as good as USA yet.[/QUOTE]Then you haven't really been to many places. Plenty of places in the world better than the Dis United States of America. Take of your red / white / blue glasses and put down your pom pom and take a look at the real world as it actually exists. I've live in three different countries where my lifestyle was much better than my lifestyle in the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068667][b]Obviously your friends did not put enough money in retirement to live comfortably. [/b]Many people didn't work hard and put away for retirement and yes they are struggling but no income tax helps a little.[/QUOTE]This a statement that could only be made by a uninformed individual.
4. The Flaw is thinking everyone who moves overseas doesn't have any money. (Tell that to the retired 4 star general I met while eating the same 169 THB breakfast that I was).
So you think money answers all problems. Sorry Canada, all lifestyle issues do not revolve around money. Perhaps when you are more mature and experienced you will understand this.
[QUOTE][b]Yes, the number of Americans renouncing U.S. citizenship has increased dramatically[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3068681]No my friends are smart like me and want to follow the example of a better life. The post below illustrates the flaw in the thinking of my fellow citizen.
1. The flaw, money is everything.
2. The Flaw is thinking the POTUS has anything to do with stock market values.
3. The Flaw is confusing the political with economics.
[B]Politics mean nothing in this world today![/B]
Then you haven't really been to many places. Plenty of places in the world better than the Dis United States of America. Take of your red / white / blue glasses and put down your pom pom and take a look at the real world as it actually exists. I've live in three different countries where my lifestyle was much better than my lifestyle in the Dis United States of America.
This a statement that could only be made by a uninformed individual.
4. The Flaw is thinking everyone who moves overseas doesn't have any money. (Tell that to the retired 4 star general I met while eating the same 169 THB breakfast that I was)..[/QUOTE]What 3 countries do you live in that are better than USA? I was in 20 countries last year and this year I will be in 25 countries and none are better to live in than USA. I traveled the world for work for 25 years. Had offices in 6 countries over the years. Nice places to visit but not to live in.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068666]That is your opinion. A presidents policies will never satisfy everyone. Most of my friends are retired and living on a fixed income. They worked hard and funded their 401 k or retirement. They have seen there investments increase over the last 16 months by $45000 to $100,000. That is huge for retired people. Millions of Americans have seen their retirement funds dramatically increase making their life better. You obviously support Iran and terrorism but eliminating terrorism in the world is a good thing for billions of people. Even the majority of Iranians like Trump because he is their only chance for freedom for their children and grandchildren. Not everything Trump does is ideal but it is just so much better than what we would have had with Harris or Biden. I am sorry it isn't great for you.[/QUOTE]My opinion made on facts, so many share, when your dangerous Trump threaten Greenland, Mexico, Canada, Germany, try to rob Venezuela, Greenland and Ukraine, putting messe everywhere, making war which blocked Ormuz pass and made big inflation for gas for everybody and also Americans, when he didn't change anything about mollahs still in Iran, unfortunately for Iranans. Trump is just a old magaloman who wants to be king of the world, when I see tax I pay used for Americans who retire in my country to get our free healthcare, yes, they leave USA to benefit from my country where they never paid tax, but I pay for too many retired Americans who choose to live in France because of bad healthcare in USA. About pollution, economics and inflation, Trump is bad for our world where USA are less than 5% population.
Since this is the exact opposite of what Canada tells us is happening in America it can't be as true as his utterly unsubstantiated and thoroughly debunked opinions, some would say America-hating lies, no matter how credible and verifiable the sources.
[B]Americans savings rate fall as inflation outpaces paychecks.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/28/savings-inflation-americans-financial-stress.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]The personal savings rate defined as the share of income Americans have after taxes and expenses hit 2.6% in April, according to data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis released on Thursday. Thats down from 3.2% in March, and 5.8% a year prior.
"I thought 2.6% for April was a typo at first. It is so low, Heather Long, chief economist at Navy Federal Credit Union, said in an email. Outside of the revenge spend era of 2022, the personal savings rate [b]has almost never been this low in the past 65 years.[/b]
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"Even with tax cuts, [b]paychecks arent keeping up with inflation right now," said Long. "Its more than just high gas prices. Its rising electricity, healthcare and food prices. These are the basics that people must pay. Its harder to skimp on these items."[/b]
[B]Inflation rose 3.8% in April from a year earlier, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the highest level since May 2023. Wage growth also began to lag inflation in April, with average hourly earnings rising 3.6% from the previous year, BLS data shows.[/b][/QUOTE]Yes, it's one thing when there is a momentary decline in the savings rate while Americans are celebrating the recovery from the Trump's Pandemic economic collapse while Biden's policies and stewardship of that historic economic recovery was not only recovering the millions of jobs Trump's decisions wiped out but were also going on to create millions more private-sector jobs than all three previous Repub presidents combined. Pedodent Rape VanWinkle Trump included, of course.
But it is quite another thing and a serious problem when Americans' savings rates are steadily declining while they are charging ordinary living expenses on high interest rate credit cards, depleting their retirement savings, the lion's share of which gains occurred under Biden, the buying power of their money is not keeping up with Pedodent Rape VanWinkle Trump's across-the-board tariffs prices increase inflation and jobs creation is averaging a paltry 31,000 or so per month over the past 16 months despite him and his Repub Congress adding Trillions and Trillions to their deficts.
Oh well.
We tried.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068691]…when I see tax I pay used for Americans who retire in my country to get our free healthcare, yes, they leave USA to benefit from my country where they never paid tax, but I pay for too many retired Americans who choose to live in France because of bad healthcare in USA. About pollution, economics and inflation, Trump is bad for our world where USA are less than 5% population.[/QUOTE]Baloney. American retirees are 0. 02% of the population of France, according to ChatGPT.
The USA spent many billions of dollars for the defense of France. It delivered your country from German hegemony after you quickly surrendered in World War II. And the USA's Marshall Plan aid and grants to France after World War II totaled around $60 billion in 2026 dollars. Please quit complaining. Or start a French Politics thread where we can debate stupid ideas of famous dumb asses like Francoise Hollande and Thomas Piketty.
BTW, France's GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power is almost 30% lower than the USA's. French politicians should spend more time fixing what's wrong with France and less blaming their problems on the USA.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068684]What 3 countries do you live in that are better than USA?[/QUOTE]Does it actually matter to you?
As long as you are not trying to force your opinion on me and I am not trying to force my opinion on you then where I choose to live that meet my preferences that I think are better to live in than the Dis United States of America. My favorite city in the Dis United States of America is Las Vegas. I happen to like the state of Nevada a lot also.
In the three countries I have lived in the [B]Police[/B] do not have history of beating down individuals who look like me. They do not have reputation for killing people who look like me in the streets and then the court system letting then get away with it.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068684]I was in 20 countries last year and this year I will be in 25 countries and [b]none are better to live in than USA[/b].[/QUOTE]Exactly how do you know this if you never lived in therm?
[QUOTE=Canada;3068684]I traveled the world for work for 25 years. Had offices in 6 countries over the years. [b]Nice places to visit but not to live in[/b].[/QUOTE]I traveled the world for most of my adult life on a Diplomatic Passport for the government of the United States of America. My experiences completely differ from yours. I have a list of at least a half dozen different countries I would prefer live in other than the Dis United States of America.
The name of the countries don't matter to you. You have already made your mind up (see the portion of your post I highlighted in bold. So there is no need of getting into a discussion about it. Because you are not interested in a discussion. You are interested in sharing your world view. I don't think it is right. I don't think the current POTUS is doing a good job. I don't think the Dis United States of America is a good place to live.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068552]
But I'm sure you don't want to compare economic results and jobs creation under the 3 Dem presidents since Carter as a result of just 2 years controling everything for each vs economic results and jobs creation after 2 years of Repub control under GW Bush, Trump1 and so far under Trump2, do you?
[/QUOTE]Damn Tooms, if I lived in Bangkok I'd check on you once a week. How many times have we debated that and how many times have you won? It's like when Muhammed Ali was interviewed once and asked about Larry Holmes, who gave Ali a complete ass kicking. Ali said, "Larry who?" Then he said he was ready to step back in the ring with him, any time, any place.
If you want to relive our many epic battles, and I don't know why you would because I always won, please do a search on username "Tiny 12" for the following key words:
"Business cycle" I've pointed out that the party of the president has little to do with GDP and employment growth compared to other factors like Fed policy, technology, globalization, demographic factors, productivity, Congress and foreign governments, and extraneous factors like UNAVOIDABLE PANDEMICS.
"Recession" We've dissected every recession since the stagflationary episode in Carter's administration.
"Ireland" I've compared economic performance of countries with smaller government favored by Libertarians and some Republicans to those with larger governments, as favored by Progressive Democrats.
This is getting extremely repetitive, like the movie Ground Hog day, but the outcome is the same every time. I'm a humanitarian. I don't want to keep pummeling you.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068691]My opinion made on facts, so many share, when your dangerous Trump threaten Greenland, Mexico, Canada, Germany, try to rob Venezuela, Greenland and Ukraine, putting messe everywhere, making war which blocked Ormuz pass and made big inflation for gas for everybody and also Americans, when he didn't change anything about mollahs still in Iran, unfortunately for Iranans. Trump is just a old magaloman who wants to be king of the world, when I see tax I pay used for Americans who retire in my country to get our free healthcare, yes, they leave USA to benefit from my country where they never paid tax, but I pay for too many retired Americans who choose to live in France because of bad healthcare in USA. About pollution, economics and inflation, Trump is bad for our world where USA are less than 5% population.[/QUOTE]You don't have a clue. You obviously hate USA who has spent billions of dollars protecting France. It is obvious that no one needs to read your posts in the future as you just repeat the same crap over and over again. I will gladly live in USA problems rather than live in France.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068450]I don't need fake news links on my posts. If the person reading the posts isn't smart enough to research it on his own I don't care. Nobody even looks at your fake links. They know if you posted it that it was irrelevant. [b]So please stop providing those links. If you have an opinion say it. It may be right or wrong but at least the smart people can do their own study on it.[/b] USA has recovered from the Biden destruction of America nicely. America still has a ways to go but it finally is on the right track.[/QUOTE]LOL! I've been waiting for "this post" from you, for some time now, albeit a tad bit late, but nonetheless, right on queue!
Usually, around about now, is always the time, when the MAGA faithless, just cannot find the gumption, data, evidence or facts to backup their proverbial MAGA drivel, nonsense, diatribe and said MAGA worldview "opinions", or are just too lazy to provide the "real world" evidence of said utter MAGA crap.
But hey, I'm cool with defining and categorizing everything that you post [I][b]...as just a silly "opinion"![/b][/I]
Looks like I'll have to remind you again. Please note that independent thought is discouraged here. Anything you post without footnotes and links to left-of-center sources is not worthy of the board's consideration.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060182]You just don't get how things work around here Canada. What you need to do is find a link to the Guardian or the New York Times or ProPublica that says the price of gasoline was $2.20 in Arizona and $1.99 in Oklahoma. Until you do that nobody around here is going to take you seriously.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068752]Damn Tooms, if I lived in Bangkok I'd check on you once a week. How many times have we debated that and how many times have you won? It's like when Muhammed Ali was interviewed once and asked about Larry Holmes, who gave Ali a complete ass kicking. Ali said, "Larry who?" Then he said he was ready to step back in the ring with him, any time, any place.
If you want to relive our many epic battles, and I don't know why you would because I always won, please do a search on username "Tiny 12" for the following key words:
"Business cycle" I've pointed out that the party of the president has little to do with GDP and employment growth compared to other factors like Fed policy, technology, globalization, demographic factors, productivity, Congress and foreign governments, and extraneous factors like UNAVOIDABLE PANDEMICS..[/QUOTE]Yes, yes, we all heard about your bizarro world economic and business cycles excuse that bizarrely only punish Repub presidents no matter how short or long a stretch of terms they serve and otherwise reward Dems no matter how short or long Dem Administrations serve.
Oh and the wild coincidence theory.
And the ever popular with MAGAs 100 years of bad luck for Repubs vs good luck for Dems theory.
None of them hold up to minimal scrutiny.
Not even your "but some obscure Repub congressman sneezed during Clinton's presidency and that's why it turned out so well" type theory you're trying to float here. Lolol.
And through it all, apparently the wild coincidence, the bizarro world 100 years long economic and business cycles, the witch's curse on Repubs and the obscure Repub congressman sneeze theories and excuses still don't explain why and how when Repubs finally do get their constant wish granted to control the Presidency, House and Senate they have still only managed to produce another Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession or Historic Repub Jobs Destruction and never, never, never manage to get around to, oh, producing a better healthcare program or legislation than The Affordable Care Act. Or even one as good. Or something better for Americans than Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Science and Chips Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, etc, etc, etc. Or even something as good.
Man oh man, you must be very pleased with that scratch and sniff photo of Clinton's dick and balls, the only discernible contribution to one of the Dems' boom economic results any Repub can take credit for, to still be defending and providing excuses for your beloved Repubs' 100 years of running the table on every major downturn for America and none of the historic boom times.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068754]You don't have a clue. You obviously hate USA who has spent billions of dollars protecting France. It is obvious that no one needs to read your posts in the future as you just repeat the same crap over and over again. I will gladly live in USA problems rather than live in France.[/QUOTE]Please, ask too many retired Americans who come to live in France for our free healthcare paid with my tax, to stay in so great USA. I visited several times, but I boycott all not MAGA US under shameful Trump and I look forward his end.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068748]Baloney. American retirees are 0. 02% of the population of France, according to ChatGPT.
The USA spent many billions of dollars for the defense of France. It delivered your country from German hegemony after you quickly surrendered in World War II. And the USA's Marshall Plan aid and grants to France after World War II totaled around $60 billion in 2026 dollars. Please quit complaining. Or start a French Politics thread where we can debate stupid ideas of famous dumb asses like Francoise Hollande and Thomas Piketty.
BTW, France's GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power is almost 30% lower than the USA's. French politicians should spend more time fixing what's wrong with France and less blaming their problems on the USA.[/QUOTE]And do you also remember, without English, your stolen land would be French, when mostly low levels from Europe stole Indians, maybe a rule in USA and Trump trying with Greenland, Ukraine, Venezuela. Retired Americans never paid tax in France, when I pay monthly, but they want to benefit what is for free in France. Why don't they stay in USA with so great healthcare, when I always heard health is the most important with happiness in life, when believe me, when you are dying, you don't need anymore dollars. I don't support Macron, but I prefer than Trump, when I would really feel shameful if I was American. Same than Teslas owners putting stickers on their car: I bought before Elon turned mad. I think he can't even come to France now, when justice is waiting for him. Great USA with robber Trump, and Musk.
The next time ignorant, ill-infomed, blowhard MAGAs cry big dog tears over those high gas prices under Biden and blame Biden for it, remind them of something I doubt many of them knew even as it was happening; Trump gave us those higher gas prices then and he is giving us higher gas prices now.
My first Real News source to fully substantiate what must be a shocking new bit of information for almost anyone too ill-formed and hateful of America to have voted for Kamala Harris will be one that we have all read at least one pretend "independent" but actual MAGA Repub recommend as a credible research source vs his puzzling dismissal of, oh, The Guardian and The New York Times.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]Did Trump's 2020 OPEC deal drive oil and gas prices higher?[/b]
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Yes, Donald Trumps 2020 OPEC deal played a direct role in driving oil prices higher by halting an unprecedented market crash.The agreement was orchestrated in April 2020 to pull the energy sector out of a catastrophic free-fall, where prices had dipped to near-zero and even turned negative due to pandemic-related demand destruction and a simultaneous price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia.
How the deal influenced prices:
The Interruption: Trump threatened to withdraw U.S. military support from Saudi Arabia unless an agreement was reached, brokering a historic OPEC+ cut of 10 million barrels per day (about 10% of global supply).Immediate Stabilization: The deal prevented a total collapse of the U.S. shale industry by successfully stanching the price bleed. West Texas Intermediate (WTI), the U.S. benchmark, rebounded from historic lows and stabilized around the \(\$40\) per barrel mark by the end of 2020.Longer-term Market Rebalancing: By establishing limits on global supply, the deal created a foundation that set the stage for oil prices to steadily recover as global economies eventually reopened.For granular data and analyses on how these cuts shaped the energy market during the pandemic, you can review the U.S. Energy Information Administration's OPEC+ Report or read the historical market analysis provided by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).OPEC+ agreement to reduce production contributes to global oil ...Sep 23, 2563 BE The U.S. Energy Information Administration's (EIA) monthly data show that OPEC total crude oil production decreased by 6.0 million b/d from April to May, which ...
U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) (.gov)OPEC+ cut is Trump's 'biggest and most complex' deal ever: Dan Yergin - CNBCApr 13, 2563 BE As the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies came to an agreement on a record cut in oil production, U.S. President Donald Trump may ...CNBCRecord deal to cut oil output ends price war - BBCApr 12, 2563 BE Talks were complicated by disagreements between Russia and Saudi Arabia, but on 2 April oil prices surged after President Trump signalled that he expected the t...BBCCarrots, Sticks, and Sledgehammers - CSISFeb 28, 2568 BE If $60 constitutes Trump's upper limit, what about the lower boundary? Here the outlier year of 2020 is instructive, as oil prices apparently fell too low for e...CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Why Trump is Pushing for Higher Oil Prices - The New York TimesNov 16, 2563 BE An unusually broad coalition came together on the deal, brokered by President Trump. Low oil prices have battered debt-laden U.S. energy companies, putting the ...
The New York Times2020 RussiaSaudi Arabia oil price war - WikipediaOil prices remained depressed for the rest of March. On 2 April, U.S. President Donald Trump, after significant internal pressure, called Saudi Arabian crown pr...Wikipedia1:22The Trump Deal That Raised Oil Prices in the U.S.YouTubeNowThis Impact8:51Oil Prices Rise As Pres. Trump Rejects Iran's Counter-DemandsYouTubeTVC News Nigeria[/QUOTE]Please see the screenshot below..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068838]And do you also remember, without English, your stolen land would be French[/QUOTE]History says he is right. Many want to only remember World War II. But without the help of the French the Dis United States of America wouldn't exist.
[URL]https://www.battlefields.org/learn/revolutionary-war/battles/yorktown[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3068838]And do you also remember, without English, your stolen land would be French, when mostly low levels from Europe stole Indians, maybe a rule in USA and Trump trying with Greenland, Ukraine, Venezuela. Retired Americans never paid tax in France, when I pay monthly, but they want to benefit what is for free in France. Why don't they stay in USA with so great healthcare, when I always heard health is the most important with happiness in life, when believe me, when you are dying, you don't need anymore dollars. I don't support Macron, but I prefer than Trump, when I would really feel shameful if I was American. Same than Teslas owners putting stickers on their car: I bought before Elon turned mad. I think he can't even come to France now, when justice is waiting for him. Great USA with robber Trump, and Musk.[/QUOTE]Yes a lot of Americans move to third world countries, like Thailand, Costa Rica, Mexico and France because their retirement dollars go farther. You must know a lot more about French history than American history. Maybe you could comment on France's massacres in Algeria, slavery in Indochina and the Caribbean, and imperialistic conquest and subjugation throughout the world.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068848]The next time ignorant, ill-infomed, blowhard MAGAs cry big dog tears over those high gas prices under Biden and blame Biden for it, remind them of something I doubt many of them knew even as it was happening; Trump gave us those higher gas prices then and he is giving us higher gas prices now.
My first Real News source to fully substantiate what must be a shocking new bit of information for almost anyone too ill-formed and hateful of America to have voted for Kamala Harris will be one that we have all read at least one pretend "independent" but actual MAGA Repub recommend as a credible research source vs his puzzling dismissal of, oh, The Guardian and The New York Times.
The A. I. Overview:
Please see the screenshot below..[/QUOTE]Nice chart. I'll explain this in a way you'll understand. Say you took a scratch and sniff photo and rubbed it all over a menstruating prostitute's pussy. Then put it under a microscope. And you see she has full blown AIDS and syphilis. And a single crab. Well that crab has as much effect on that hoe's overall well being as Trump's pressure on the Saudi's had on Bidenflation. The biggest cause of Bidenflation, in the USA and worldwide, was too much stimulus spending during the Biden administration.
OPEC is a cartel. Once in a while, Saudi Arabia and / or OPEC raises output to try to put oil producers in countries like the USA out of business. Then after output outside OPEC plummets, it jacks the price of oil way up. This happened in 2014 to 2016, and again in 2020, and USA Shale producers were the biggest targets. In March and April of 2020, the Saudis started to play this game, to pressure both Russian and USA producers. COVID was destroying demand but they increased production from 9 million barrels per day to 12 million barrels per day! The price of oil plunged to negative levels (oil producers had to pay people to take their oil) at certain delivery points in the USA. United States production fell from 13.1 million barrels per day to 9. 7 million barrels per day.
When Trump left office in January, 2021, the price of oil was $53 per barrel. This wasn't quite high enough to maintain USA Production level in the long term. But at least it was sufficient to keep USA Producers from plugging and abandoning their marginal wells, which would have meant certain reserves would have been lost forever. The price of oil didn't really pop until 2022, during the lead up to and beginning of the Russian / Ukrainian conflict.
Instead of encouraging USA Oil and gas production, Progressive Democrats did the opposite. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris campaigned to ban fracking, which would have sent USA production spiraling downwards. Joe Biden during the campaign said he'the be content to just end drilling on federal leases. Which was incredibly stupid. About 25% of USA Oil production and 12% of USA Gas production was from federal leases. Biden did this, but had to back down quickly because of political pressure and the courts.
Thank goodness the Progressive Democrats didn't get their way! We would have been fucked when the Russia / Ukraine conflict came along. And when Netanyahu and Trump decided to attack Iran a second time.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068809]Yes, yes, we all heard about your bizarro world economic and business cycles excuse that bizarrely only punish Repub presidents no matter how short or long a stretch of terms they serve and otherwise reward Dems no matter how short or long Dem Administrations serve.
Oh and the wild coincidence theory.
And the ever popular with MAGAs 100 years of bad luck for Repubs vs good luck for Dems theory.
None of them hold up to minimal scrutiny.
Not even your "but some obscure Repub congressman sneezed during Clinton's presidency and that's why it turned out so well" type theory you're trying to float here. Lolol.
And through it all, apparently the wild coincidence, the bizarro world 100 years long economic and business cycles, the witch's curse on Repubs and the obscure Repub congressman sneeze theories and excuses still don't explain why and how when Repubs finally do get their constant wish granted to control the Presidency, House and Senate they have still only managed to produce another Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession or Historic Repub Jobs Destruction and never, never, never manage to get around to, oh, producing a better healthcare program or legislation than The Affordable Care Act. Or even one as good. Or something better for Americans than Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Science and Chips Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, etc, etc, etc. Or even something as good.
Man oh man, you must be very pleased with that scratch and sniff photo of Clinton's dick and balls, the only discernible contribution to one of the Dems' boom economic results any Repub can take credit for, to still be defending and providing excuses for your beloved Repubs' 100 years of running the table on every major downturn for America and none of the historic boom times.[/QUOTE]Well, if we're going to address the "bizaro world 100 year long" correlations, please note that mine showing Democrat presidents are bloodthirsty mass murderers are a lot stronger than yours showing Republican presidents are economic incompetents. Except for Herbert Hoover. What's really bizaro are your references to scratch and sniff photos of American presidents' genitalia.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068889]Nice chart. I'll explain this in a way you'll understand. Say you took a scratch and sniff photo and rubbed it all over a menstruating prostitute's pussy. Then put it under a microscope. And you see she has full blown AIDS and syphilis. And a single crab. Well that crab has as much effect on that hoe's overall well being as Trump's pressure on the Saudi's had on Bidenflation. The biggest cause of Bidenflation, in the USA and worldwide, was too much stimulus spending during the Biden administration.
OPEC is a cartel. Once in a while, Saudi Arabia and / or OPEC raises output to try to put oil producers in countries like the USA out of business. Then after output outside OPEC plummets, it jacks the price of oil way up. This happened in 2014 to 2016, and again in 2020, and USA Shale producers were the biggest targets. In March and April of 2020, the Saudis started to play this game. The price of oil plunged to negative levels (oil producers had to pay people to take their oil) at certain delivery points in the USA. United States production fell from 13.1 million barrels per day to 9. 7 million barrels per day.
When Trump left office in January, 2021, the price of oil was $53 per barrel. This wasn't quite high enough to maintain USA Production level in the long term. But at least it was sufficient to keep USA Producers from plugging and abandoning their marginal wells, which would have meant certain reserves would have been lost forever. The price of oil didn't really pop until 2022, during the lead up to and beginning of the Russian / Ukrainian conflict..[/QUOTE]Oh, so now it was a good thing that Trump jacked up the price of oil and gas from 2020 to 2022?
Gee, that hasn't been the way America-hating liar Trump and his America-hating liar MAGAs have been lying about it for the past 4 years.
Really. Not once have I heard Trump brag about having done that or a MAGA proudly remind us who did that. I only recall Trump and MAGAs telling us what a wonderful thing it was that the price of gas fell so low in 2020 during Trump's Pandemic and then how it was all Biden's fault that it got jacked up for the next couple of years.
You know, like the MAGA liars who insist Joe Biden recovering America from the global economic disaster of Trump's Pandemic with a mere few days of a 9.1% inflation rate also causing Argentina, Turkey and much of Europe to hit double and triple-digit rates of inflation for much longer and all without recovering many if any of the millions of jobs Trump's 2019 and 2020 decisions to lay the groundwork for, ushering in and exacerbate Trump's Pandemic destroyed in those countries.
Or will we find out how and why Joe Biden actually did that because, you know, "Ireland"?
Hey, it didn't make the cut to posting in my previous post but if you do a Google Search on the topic you will find that, sure enough, even The Guardian carried the reports of how Trump jacked up the price of oil and gas from 2020 to 2022. Just the same as The New York Times and others did, as was cited in that A. I. Overview.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068896]Oh, so now it was a good thing that Trump jacked up the price of oil and gas from 2020 to 2022?
Gee, that hasn't been the way America-hating liar Trump and his America-hating liar MAGAs have been lying about it for the past 4 years.
Really. Not once have I heard Trump brag about having done that or a MAGA proudly remind us who did that. I only recall Trump and MAGAs telling us what a wonderful thing it was that the price of gas fell so low in 2020 during Trump's Pandemic and then how it was all Biden's fault that it got jacked up for the next couple of years.
You know, like the MAGA liars who insist Joe Biden recovering America from the global economic disaster of Trump's Pandemic with a mere few days of a 9.1% inflation rate also causing Argentina, Turkey and much of Europe to hit double and triple-digit rates of inflation for much longer and all without recovering many if any of the millions of jobs Trump's 2019 and 2020 decisions to lay the groundwork for, ushering in and exacerbate Trump's Pandemic destroyed in those countries.
Or will we find out how and why Joe Biden actually did that because, you know, "Ireland"?
Hey, it didn't make the cut to posting in my previous post but if you do a Google Search on the topic you will find that, sure enough, even The Guardian carried the reports of how Trump jacked up the price of oil and gas from 2020 to 2022. Just the same as The New York Times and others did, as was cited in that A. I. Overview.[/QUOTE]You're much too hard on Biden and Jerome Powell Tooms. They never would have let inflation get out of hand like Argentina, Turkey and the dynamic duo of Jimmy Carter and William Miller. Well, Miller anyway. Carter did have the good sense to replace Fed Chair Miller with Paul Volker. No doubt a President Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and her Fed appointees could have followed in the footsteps of Argentina or Turkey though. And that's the direction your party is headed Tooms. Increasingly it's the lunatic left taking control.
Contrary to his and apparently your belief, Trump was no longer the lawfully elected president of the United States of America after January 20,2021. That day YoY CPI inflation was 1.4%. The average retail price of gasoline was $2.35 a gallon. The price of WTI oil was $53, enough to keep the USA oil and gas industry on life support but not enough to keep production level. At that point and thereafter Biden could strong arm OPEC. Trump could not.
EihTooms;3068848]The next time ignorant, ill-informed, blowhard MAGAs cry big dog tears over those high gas prices under Biden and blame Biden for it, remind them of something I doubt many of them knew even as it was happening; Trump gave us those higher gas prices then and he is giving us higher gas prices now.
My first Real News source to fully substantiate what must be a shocking new bit of information for almost anyone too ill-formed and hateful of America to have voted for Kamala Harris will be one that we have all read at least one pretend "independent" but actual MAGA Repub recommend as a credible research source vs his puzzling dismissal of, oh, The Guardian and The New York Times.
Please see the screenshot below.
High gas prices from Trump or Biden presidency doesn't bother republicans as most of them made enough financial gains on their oil stocks to pay for all their gas for 25 years. I can never spend my gains in my lifetime so high gas prices are actually good for 50% of the USA population. And they will be back down to normal soon so no worry there. Democrats are too woke to invest in oil. Just the democrats crying now but didn't cry under Biden high gas prices. You get what you deserve in life.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068936]You're much too hard on Biden and Jerome Powell Tooms. They never would have let inflation get out of hand like Argentina, Turkey and the dynamic duo of Jimmy Carter and William Miller. Well, Miller anyway. Carter did have the good sense to replace Fed Chair Miller with Paul Volker. No doubt a President Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and her Fed appointees could have followed in the footsteps of Argentina or Turkey though. And that's the direction your party is headed Tooms. Increasingly it's the lunatic left taking control.
[B]Contrary to his and apparently your belief, Trump was no longer the lawfully elected president of the United States of America after January 20,2021. That day YoY CPI inflation was 1.4%. The average retail price of gasoline was $2.35 a gallon. The price of WTI oil was $53, enough to keep the USA oil and gas industry on life support but not enough to keep production level. At that point and thereafter Biden could strong arm OPEC. Trump could not.[/b][/QUOTE]You're much too easy on Trump, the Pedodent who consistently ranks dead last on historians' rank of USA presidents, and not because he handed Biden, a president who will always rank higher than most Repub presidents who served within the past 100 years, such seemingly glowing economic numbers that you cited sans context.
So let's dance through a few more Trump stats you missed that he handed Biden to deal with and resolve while you nit-pick over him not solving every Trump disaster immediately:
[B]Trumps Final Numbers.
Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.
Oct. 8, 2021[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The economy lost 2.7 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.7 percentage points to 6.4%.
Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8.4% after inflation.
After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records. The S&P 500 index rose 67.8%.
The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 36.3% from 2016.
The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.
The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
Home prices rose 27.5%, and the homeownership rate increased 2.1
percentage points to 65.8%.
Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.
Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 25%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.3%.
Handgun production rose 12.5% last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.
The murder rate last year rose to the highest level since 1997.
Trump filled one-third of the Supreme Court, nearly 30% of the appellate court seats and a quarter of District Court seats.[/QUOTE]You like that one about "Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8. 4% after inflation"? I'm sure you do. Here is why that happened between 2017 and 2021 and it had absolutely zero to do with any legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Donald Trump or any Repub in his administration:
[B]Minimum Wages Rising In 20 States And Several Cities
December 30, 2018[/B]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2018/12/30/681055793/minimum-wages-rising-in-20-states-and-several-cities[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Economic Policy Institute reports that in six states, the wage hikes are the result of new levels set by state legislatures. In California, Massachusetts and New York, the increases are small steps in the broader effort of eventually raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. [/QUOTE]The wage increases in just those three Blue states alone were enough to raise the cited average for the entire country.
But wait, just to be sure why Biden had more on his plate to deal with other than fighting with OPEC to convince them to undo what Trump had done, check this out:
[B]Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover.
Jan. 11,2021[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-leave-office-worst-jobs-030044152.html[/URL]
Oh, and remember there was still a Blood-Thirsty Repub Quagmire War of Choice raging in the Middle East that Trump also handed Biden to fix after happily presiding over it for the entirety of his four years in office. And he left that in as shitty condition as everything else Trump touched. See screenshot below:
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3068964]You're much too easy on Trump, the Pedodent who consistently ranks dead last on historians' rank of USA presidents, and not because he handed Biden, a president who will always rank higher than most Repub presidents who served within the past 100 years, such seemingly glowing economic numbers that you cited sans context.
So let's dance through a few more Trump stats you missed that he handed Biden to deal with and resolve while you nit-pick over him not solving every Trump disaster immediately:
[B]Trumps Final Numbers.
Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.
Oct. 8, 2021[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/[/URL]
You like that one about "Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8. 4% after inflation"? I'm sure you do. Here is why that happened between 2017 and 2021 and it had absolutely zero to do with any legislation proposed by, fought for and passed by Donald Trump or any Repub in his administration:
[B]Minimum Wages Rising In 20 States And Several Cities
December 30, 2018[/B]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2018/12/30/681055793/minimum-wages-rising-in-20-states-and-several-cities[/URL]
The wage increases in just those three Blue states alone were enough to raise the cited average for the entire country.
But wait, just to be sure why Biden had more on his plate to deal with other than fighting with OPEC to convince them to undo what Trump had done, check this out:
[B]Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover.
Jan. 11,2021[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-leave-office-worst-jobs-030044152.html[/URL]
Oh, and remember there was still a Blood-Thirsty Repub Quagmire War of Choice raging in the Middle East that Trump also handed Biden to fix after happily presiding over it for the entirety of his four years in office. And he left that in as shitty condition as everything else Trump touched. See screenshot below:[/QUOTE]The factcheck link is an excellent example of why Canada and I believe your faith in in the MSM is misplaced. And your requests for backup for our posts are unreasonable. The chart shows the economic growth rate during Trump's four years as -2. 2%. That number actually is 1- (2024 GDP /2025 GDP). In reality, the annual real growth rate in GDP was 1.9% or 2.1% per year depending on whether you use 1/1/2017 or 4/1/2017 as a starting point. I've calculated that from Bureau of Economic Statistics data. Chat GPT says it’s 2.1% for both starting dates. I note that a similar table that factcheck did after Biden's presidency omitted household income from the list, perhaps because the number sucked compared to Trump's.
The numbers on the chart are a mixed bag. During the Trump administration, real weekly earnings and household median income were up 8. 4% and 6% respectively, perhaps the largest increases since Clinton's second term. After many years of stagnation the workingman finally got a break! USA / Mexico border apprehensions were up 14.7%. Corporate profits and the S&P 500 were up, food stamp recipients down, CPI increases were held to a reasonable rate, poverty rate was down marginally, carbon dioxide emissions down, job openings up, home ownership up, and crude oil production up.
As to the number of Americans with health insurance, a pox on both the parties, and Trump, Biden and Obama. Costs are ridiculously high and outcomes poor. Obamacare doubled down on a failed system and Trump did nothing to fix it.
On the negative side, during the Trump administration, jobs were down, unemployment rate up, federal debt held by public up, home prices up, murder rate up, manufacturing jobs down and trade deficit up (negative by Trump's standards, not necessarily by mine).
But how much of this can you say Trump really affected substantially? Really IMO just the corporate profits, S&P 500, federal deficit, border apprehensions and number of Americans insured. The long overdue Trump / Ryan / McConnell corporate tax cut had a lot to do with the first two. As to the third, spending bills originate in the House and require the Senate's input, but Trump could have used the veto a lot more than he did.
Contrary to your belief, Trump could not have prevented the COVID pandemic, and Hillary Clinton might not have done significantly better or worse managing the economy through COVID. My guess is that she would have done worse. The USA Actually came out of Trump's last year pretty well. The GDP decline from 1/1/2020 to 12/30/2020 was 1%. This was better than most developed countries, although China and island nations like Taiwan, New Zealand and Australia did better. The unemployment rate when Trump left office was roughly comparable to other developed countries. It was lower than France and Canada, higher than the UK and Germany for example.
The minimum wage debate shouldn't be at the federal level. IMO minimum wages should be set primarily at the municipal and county level and secondarily at the state level. Having the same minimum wage in Washington and Mississippi would be plain asinine. I seriously doubt changes in the minimum wage had a significant effect on the nationwide average wage
As to the bloody war of choice, you have to assign the largest share of the blame to Bush. Obama and Trump were complicit in keeping it going, more so Obama. And kudos to Biden for getting us out, even though the final stage was a cluster fuck.
[QUOTE=Canada;3068937]EihTooms;3068848]The next time ignorant, ill-informed, blowhard MAGAs cry big dog tears over those high gas prices under Biden and blame Biden for it, remind them of something I doubt many of them knew even as it was happening; Trump gave us those higher gas prices then and he is giving us higher gas prices now.
My first Real News source to fully substantiate what must be a shocking new bit of information for almost anyone too ill-formed and hateful of America to have voted for Kamala Harris will be one that we have all read at least one pretend "independent" but actual MAGA Repub recommend as a credible research source vs his puzzling dismissal of, oh, The Guardian and The New York Times.
Please see the screenshot below.
High gas prices from Trump or Biden presidency doesn't bother republicans as most of them made enough financial gains on their oil stocks to pay for all their gas for 25 years. I can never spend my gains in my lifetime so high gas prices are actually good for 50% of the USA population. And they will be back down to normal soon so no worry there. Democrats are too woke to invest in oil. Just the democrats crying now but didn't cry under Biden high gas prices. You get what you deserve in life.[/QUOTE]High gasoline prices in California never bothered Tooms or Spidy.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068996]High gasoline prices in California never bothered Tooms or Spidy.[/QUOTE]I hope you are having fun arguing with these guys. I concluded long ago that these two are on the government teet, and all that could explain their irrational behavior was their greed. Vietnam was Eisenhower's fault? Carter was a great president? Trump was responsible for the pandemic?
The irony is that they are both living abroad yet feel compelled to lecture others on what to do. It is just pure selfishness, and I had no idea how many guys on this forum are like minded until I criticized others about it. For those of us working now, when we travel, time is worth more than money, so if we see a woman we like, we might pay a little more to close the deal as we do not have time to negotiate. These guys scream, "You are ruining it for us."
This really got me because working guys are literally paying for those lazy ex-pats living abroad. It does not matter if it is a millennial up to his eyes in student debt. No, guys like Tooms and Spidy need you to pay for their hookers.
You always hear about taxes going for streets, schools ETC when the reality is 2 out of every 3 tax dollars goes from one person to another. I am literally paying people to go against my interests. Hell, if you believe in solar and wind, put up your own windmill or solar panels, but dumb Dems never see things in any other terms than government. Everything for them is about government so they can take credit for how they voted. The working people do not create jobs. Only presidents do. So if Tooms votes for a Democrat, he not you or I created a job even if we hired that person, and you destroyed jobs if you voted Republican. They really believe that. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, who have done so much for the people of the world, are selfish and need to be more giving of their wealth to government. Neither created jobs for their fellow Americans; government did.
I was just abroad, and if you really look at things, you see prices are pretty much the same in things without legacy or legal costs. Televisions, food, restaurants, cars are all pretty comparable to the USA if you go for similar quality. Then you look at places where the government has intertwined itself with pensioners, and you see where there is such a difference: housing, property taxes, education, health care, insurance, child care, and you see amazing savings when abroad.
The one redeeming feature of a pensioner type would have been that at least they are putting their retirement $ back into the USA but not guys like Tooms and Spidy. All they are doing is sucking the USA dry, and yet they are so arrogant they want even more money than they are getting now. They want you to vote in their interests and not your own.
Our forefathers warned us about this. They said once people learn they can vote themselves money, the Republic is doomed. So yeah, guys like Tooms and Spidy have no issue with California paying more for gasoline than Texas to the tune of $2.50 a gallon. All they care about is demonizing Trump because they are worried Trump might cut their payouts. If they really cared about how much others pay for gasoline, they would get back to work and stop leaching off hard working Americans.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068995]The factcheck link is an excellent example of why Canada and I believe your faith in in the MSM is misplaced. And your requests for backup for our posts are unreasonable. The chart shows the economic growth rate during Trump's four years as -2. 2%. That number actually is 1- (2024 GDP /2025 GDP). In reality, the annual real growth rate in GDP was 1.9% or 2.1% per year depending on whether you use 1/1/2017 or 4/1/2017 as a starting point. I've calculated that from Bureau of Economic Statistics data. Chat GPT says its 2.1% for both starting dates. I note that a similar table that factcheck did after Biden's presidency omitted household income from the list, perhaps because the number sucked compared to Trump's.
The numbers on the chart are a mixed bag. During the Trump administration, real weekly earnings and household median income were up 8. 4% and 6% respectively, perhaps the largest increases since Clinton's second term. After many years of stagnation the workingman finally got a break! USA / Mexico border apprehensions were up 14.7%. Corporate profits and the S&P 500 were up, food stamp recipients down, CPI increases were held to a reasonable rate, poverty rate was down marginally, carbon dioxide emissions down, job openings up, home ownership up, and crude oil production up.
As to the number of Americans with health insurance, a pox on both the parties, and Trump, Biden and Obama. Costs are ridiculously high and outcomes poor. Obamacare doubled down on a failed system and Trump did nothing to fix it.
On the negative side, during the Trump administration, jobs were down, unemployment rate up, federal debt held by public up, home prices up, murder rate up, manufacturing jobs down and trade deficit up (negative by Trump's standards, not necessarily by mine).
But how much of this can you say Trump really affected substantially? Really IMO just the corporate profits, S&P 500, federal deficit, border apprehensions and number of Americans insured. The long overdue Trump / Ryan / McConnell corporate tax cut had a lot to do with the first two. As to the third, spending bills originate in the House and require the Senate's input, but Trump could have used the veto a lot more than he did.
Contrary to your belief, Trump could not have prevented the COVID pandemic, and Hillary Clinton might not have done significantly better or worse managing the economy through COVID. My guess is that she would have done worse..[/QUOTE]Even with your nit-picking at it in a desperate attempt to find something to hang your latest lame excuse on for consistent 100 year long catastrophic Repub economic results, whatever Factchrck, CNBC, NPR, Newsweek, Time, NYT and a plethora of other sources I could have linked on Trump's disastrous economic results last time and created a post 3 pages long has to report about it is 1000% or in further Trump MAGA Math 10,000% closer to reality and more credible than the ridiculous, thoroughly unsubstantiated conclusions you and Canada have pulled out of nowhere.
Trump is now working hard to put another one of his Real Estate Scams and Bankruptcies cronies in charge of all our Intel gathering agencies to do nothing but chase down more nothingness about the 2020 election Trump can't bear to be thought was another fair and square loss for him. No doubt to instead defer to Russia Russia Russia's Putin for all of our Intel info.
So I assume that if and when another huge oversight and criminal neglect of an eminent domestic terrorist attack goes right past this Repub president as it did GW Bush, you will be right there to insist, "Oh no no no. This would have happened under any president. Even Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden. Nobody could have predicted it. Out of the blue. Wild coincidence. Witch's curse. Normal historic domestic terrorist cycles. Not Trump's fault. ".
LOL. Let's put a pin in that one.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068996]High gasoline prices in California never bothered Tooms or Spidy.[/QUOTE]Trump thinks high gas prices anywhere are a "pittance" and affordability for anything is a "hoax". And so do his MAGAs.
Now.
But not in 2022 after he made a deal with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas until at least 2022.
You and Canada love that about him. You think that makes him such a smart businessman, always putting America first just like other Repubs.
The world's biggest battery manufacturer (40% market share), has just announced, it is now setting it's sights on the next generation of battery technology, with a revolutionary "lithium-air" (also known as the "breathable battery" Not solid-state interesting enough, although they're still progressing in that space too.
These "lithium-air" batteries, to be clear, are said to have [B]a theoretical energy density ceiling,[/B] of 12,000 Wh / kg. As CATL are not known for as a company for spouting hyperbole about they are quite capable feats of engineering, the announcement, has put every one else on notice, including gasoline and fossil fuel producers.
[B]CATL sets sights on lithium-air technology with theoretical gasoline-level 12,000 Wh/kg energy density,[/B] June 3rd, 2026. [URL]https://carnewschina.com/2026/06/03/catl-sets-sights-on-lithium-air-technology-with-theoretical-gasoline-level-12000-wh-kg-energy-density/[/URL]
Currently, "lithium-air" laboratory prototypes have surpassed 1,200 Wh / kg, already accomplishing 10% of said energy density ceiling. There are several hurdles to overcome before commercial scale role outs, but as early as 2030, we could see batteries in commercial use.
2026 Year of the Battery.
The Crooked MAGA Fuhrer, is at it again, pick-pocketing and grifting off the hardworking backs of Americans, as he again, illegally trades on insider information and buys between $1 to $5 million of Dell share, ahead of a Pentagon computer contract.
Which maybe small in comparison to the other billions he picked from American taxpayers, [B]but for an unprincipled, corrupt and con man MAGA president, [/B]no theft of American taxpayers money is to small or too big. MAGA Fuhrer corruption tracker: [URL]https://trumpcorruptiontracker.com/[/URL]
[B]Dell Gets a $9.7 Billion Defense Contract. Trumps Portfolio Stands to Benefit,[/B] May 28th, 2026 [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/28/us/politics/trump-dell-stock-purchases.html[/URL] or [URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-dell-pentagon-contract_n_6a18a464e4b062ca52da921f[/URL]
Under the corrupt, malicious and cruel MAGA Fuhrer and his shit-show Repub admin 2.0, America is rotting from the head. Under MAGA Fuhrer 2.0, is America is lost and BROKEN, to the point is may become unrecognizable and corrupt, beyond approach?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069019]I hope you are having fun arguing with these guys. I concluded long ago that these two are on the government teet, and all that could explain their irrational behavior was their greed. Vietnam was Eisenhower's fault? Carter was a great president? Trump was responsible for the pandemic?
The irony is that they are both living abroad yet feel compelled to lecture others on what to do. It is just pure selfishness, and I had no idea how many guys on this forum are like minded until I criticized others about it. For those of us working now, when we travel, time is worth more than money, so if we see a woman we like, we might pay a little more to close the deal as we do not have time to negotiate. These guys scream, "You are ruining it for us."
This really got me because working guys are literally paying for those lazy ex-pats living abroad. It does not matter if it is a millennial up to his eyes in student debt. No, guys like Tooms and Spidy need you to pay for their hookers.
You always hear about taxes going for streets, schools ETC when the reality is 2 out of every 3 tax dollars goes from one person to another. I am literally paying people to go against my interests. Hell, if you believe in solar and wind, put up your own windmill or solar panels, but dumb Dems never see things in any other terms than government. Everything for them is about government so they can take credit for how they voted. The working people do not create jobs. Only presidents do. So if Tooms votes for a Democrat, he not you or I created a job even if we hired that person, and you destroyed jobs if you voted Republican. They really believe that. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, who have done so much for the people of the world, are selfish and need to be more giving of their wealth to government. Neither created jobs for their fellow Americans; government did.
I was just abroad, and if you really look at things, you see prices are pretty much the same in things without legacy or legal costs. Televisions, food, restaurants, cars are all pretty comparable to the USA if you go for similar quality. Then you look at places where the government has intertwined itself with pensioners, and you see where there is such a difference: housing, property taxes, education, health care, insurance, child care, and you see amazing savings when abroad.
The one redeeming feature of a pensioner type would have been that at least they are putting their retirement $ back into the USA but not guys like Tooms and Spidy. All they are doing is sucking the USA dry, and yet they are so arrogant they want even more money than they are getting now. They want you to vote in their interests and not your own.
Our forefathers warned us about this. They said once people learn they can vote themselves money, the Republic is doomed. So yeah, guys like Tooms and Spidy have no issue with California paying more for gasoline than Texas to the tune of $2.50 a gallon. All they care about is demonizing Trump because they are worried Trump might cut their payouts. If they really cared about how much others pay for gasoline, they would get back to work and stop leaching off hard working Americans.[/QUOTE]LOL, yes Eisenhower starting the Vietnam War and Tump the pandemic are hilarious. I went back and forth with Tooms over the twin recessions that occurred during the tail end of Carter's term and the first of Reagan's. The appointment of Paul Volker to replace partisan hack William Miller as Fed chairman was the cause. Volker wisely raised interest rates sky high which caused the recession. Tooms of course absolved Carter, who appointed Volker, and blamed Reagan.
I don't criticize my state and local governments because they actually supply things we need. The federal government on the other hand spends money inefficiently and the value of benefits it provides to me is a very small percentage of what I pay it.
Remember when Obama told an entrepreneur that he didn't build his business, the government did? That's exactly the attitude you're describing above among many Democrats. Well, his state and local government may have helped him out, but most likely the Feds didn't do jack except to make his life more difficult.
And yes, Democratic politicians now want 50% of the population to be exempt from the income tax and receive much, much more in Medicare and other health benefits than they and their employers pay in. Then they think theyll pay for everything under the sun by taxing the wealthiest Americans. Its not mathematically possible and may indeed cause the downfall of the Republic.
I've given up on Spidy. I had hopes that I could persuade Tooms to think independently but I'm about to throw in the towel. Is he sucking off the government teet? Or has the main stream left media made it so he can't think for himself? Does he suffer from Stockholm Syndrome? Given he was a successful businessman in California I favored the latter theory. But I don't know.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069072]Trump thinks high gas prices anywhere are a "pittance" and affordability for anything is a "hoax". And so do his MAGAs.
Now.
But not in 2022 after he made a deal with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas until at least 2022.
You and Canada love that about him. You think that makes him such a smart businessman, always putting America first just like other Repubs.[/QUOTE]Trump wasn't president in 2022 Tooms. Biden was.
Trump is smart but I'd attribute his success as a businessman mostly to the head start he got from his father, being a great salesman, his shrewdness and his willingness to treat his customers, vendors, banks and investors unethically. I brought this up with friends who believed that equipped Trump to deal with foreign governments and drain the swamp better than other candidates. Like I told you, I didn't vote for him. Or the Democratic candidates, except Joe Biden in the 2020 primary because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders scared the shit out of me.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069124]Trump wasn't president in 2022 Tooms. Biden was.
Trump is smart but I'd attribute his success as a businessman mostly to the head start he got from his father, being a great salesman, his shrewdness and his willingness to treat his customers, vendors, banks and investors unethically. I brought this up with friends who believed that equipped Trump to deal with foreign governments and drain the swamp better than other candidates. Like I told you, I didn't vote for him. Or the Democratic candidates, except Joe Biden in the 2020 primary because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders scared the shit out of me.[/QUOTE]Questions for you and any other MAGAs here: Why didn't President Joe Biden fight tooth and nail to undo the deal Trump made with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas starting in 2020 and continuing until at least 2022, especially since loser ex-president Trump was leading the MAGA rants then as now about how terrible, terrible, terrible it was that Sleepy Joe allowed or rather made the price of oil and gas rise during that time? And on a related topic, why didn't President Joe Biden immediately undo all of the tariffs Trump applied to various products when he took office?
Since typically pro Repub Mainstream Media has for decades been giving Repub President Eisenhower a pass for committing the USA fully and completely militarily to the Vietnam War by word, deed and treaty for at least 7 years of his 8 year presidency, I am sure very few living persons even know about Operation Mobile Yoke, launched by Eisenhower 5 months before the 1960 presidential election and that had been in its planning stage for 6 months before that:
[B]TIME
National Affairs. Red Alert.
June 6, 1960[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/archive/6811743/national-affairs-red-alert/[/URL]
[QUOTE]As Chinese Communist shells slammed into the Nationalist offshore islands of Quemoy and Matsu last week, ending a three-month lull in the Formosa Strait, military strategists of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization sounded a Red alert at a SEATO meeting in Washington. Warned Admiral Harry D. Felt, U.S. commander in chief in the Pacific: The Southeast Asian peninsula is a target for Communist China, and Laos is the first point of entry. Another danger spot, said Felt, was shaky South Viet Nam, under worsening pressure by Communist guerrillas (TIME, May 2).
Meeting outside Asia for the first time since its formation in 1954, eight-member-SEATO braced for post-summit Communist boldness in secret strategy sessions, laid the groundwork for the SEATO foreign ministers meeting to be opened this week by Vice President Nixon. While SEATO strategists were discussing the Red Chinese menace, the U.S. Air Force announced that it was getting ready to deploy a striking force of 120 supersonic jet fighters and other aircraft on maneuvers in Thailand, Formosa and the Philippines. Operation Mobile Yoke, said the Air Force, was planned six months ago, just happened to be announced in a week when Communist artillery started firing.
* The U.S., Australia, France, New Zealand, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand and Great Britain.[/QUOTE]Now, let's see if anyone else can clearly read between the lines, and it doesn't require much effort, for why a sitting president would maneuver a full on USA military strike force right to the edge of the combat lines, ready to get the green light at any moment to respond to any perceived or real "incident" in the area, so quickly and close there would be no chance to clarify the reason and skuttle the mission, just a few months before that sitting president's Vice President was logically expected to take charge as Commander in Chief?
Well, really, regardless which Party's nominee won the upcoming election and had to decide how to deal with the corner Eisenhower had put him squarely into; should he wave the white flag, withdraw and retreat like the French, admit defeat to the Communists' purported Domino Theory of World Dominance, Eisenhower's framing of it for those 7 years, just 15 years after winning the War against Nazi Fascist aggression in Europe and Japanese Imperialism in Asia or allow the USA Military forces put there by Eisenhower and poised to respond to any perceived or real "incident" to unavoidably begin the full combat engagement Eisenhower had been setting the groundwork for over the previous 7 years?
Of course, no president other than Eisenhower "started" America's full and irreversible commitment in every conceivable way to The Vietnam War.
Just as Trump has done with Iran. And as Trump did on a different "battlefield" of engagement to lay the groundwork for, usher in and exacerbate Trump's Pandemic.
Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media has worked very hard and for decades to see to it that the "Party of personal responsibilty" never has to take responsibility for some of the worst results and outcomes in history.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069124]Trump wasn't president in 2022 Tooms. Biden was.
Trump is smart but I'd attribute his success as a businessman mostly to the head start he got from his father, being a great salesman, his shrewdness and his willingness to treat his customers, vendors, banks and investors unethically. I brought this up with friends who believed that equipped Trump to deal with foreign governments and drain the swamp better than other candidates. Like I told you, I didn't vote for him. Or the Democratic candidates, except Joe Biden in the 2020 primary because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders scared the shit out of me.[/QUOTE]How many times did Trump claim bankruptcy? No one who makes that many claims can be referred to as a "great" businessman. LOL.
What do they expect? For individuals to work until they drop?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069019]This really got me because working guys are literally paying for those lazy ex-pats living abroad.[/QUOTE]I know several retired military men (and women) living abroad. From a 4 Star General to a retired E-7. The money they receive from their government was earned through service. Not their fault US Companies no longer care about their workers by not providing pensions. It's up to everyone to do it on their own now. Life is harder in that sense now. But they didn't make the rules, they just followed them. Is it your suggestion that these shouldn't get their pensions just because you don't like paying taxes?
Oh, and by the way, they still pay taxes. [B]In my country of origin you are taxed on your worldwide income no matter where you reside in the world[/B]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069019]I was just abroad, and if you really look at things, you see prices are pretty much the same in things without legacy or legal costs. Televisions, food, restaurants, cars are all pretty comparable to the USA if you go for similar quality. Then you look at places where the government has intertwined itself with pensioners, and you see where there is such a difference: housing, property taxes, education, health care, insurance, child care, and you see amazing savings when abroad.[/QUOTE]Where is [I]abroad[/I]? Big differences country to country.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069019]The one redeeming feature of a pensioner type would have been that at least they are putting their retirement $ back into the USA but not guys like Tooms and Spidy. All they are doing is sucking the USA dry, and yet they are so arrogant they want even more money than they are getting now.[/QUOTE]Reference is made to the military men (and women) that I know that have retired overseas.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069019]Our forefathers warned us about this.[/QUOTE]The founding document of my country of origin says:
[I]We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.[/I]
So, after they decided I was no longer 3/5 of a person and give my people a vote. Yes, the interests of me and my loved and liked ones come first. I've already put my time in on behalf of my fellow citizens. So I could care less what they think. Individuals who are still working hate on those that have put in the time and are no longer working. Handle your business. And you too will be able to have a income without working in the future if you choose to do so.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069019]If they really cared about how much others pay for gasoline, they would get back to work and stop leaching off hard working Americans.[/QUOTE]I guess he is NEVER going to stop working. Retirement is not in the picture for him. Either through mismanagement of his resources or failure to earn enough money to save for retirement.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069124]Trump wasn't president in 2022 Tooms. Biden was.
Trump is smart but I'd attribute his success as a businessman mostly to the head start he got from his father, being a great salesman, his shrewdness and his willingness to treat his customers, vendors, banks and investors unethically. I brought this up with friends who believed that equipped Trump to deal with foreign governments and drain the swamp better than other candidates. Like I told you, I didn't vote for him. Or the Democratic candidates, except Joe Biden in the 2020 primary because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders scared the shit out of me.[/QUOTE]You find Trump smart? I only see a stupid and rather ignorant about the world Trump. Maybe he was smart, not to pay tax, or to make Americans paying millions when he play golf. He gives such a bad image for USA, same than Netanyahou for Israel.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3068888]Yes a lot of Americans move to third world countries, like Thailand, Costa Rica, Mexico and France because their retirement dollars go farther. You must know a lot more about French history than American history. Maybe you could comment on France's massacres in Algeria, slavery in Indochina and the Caribbean, and imperialistic conquest and subjugation throughout the world.[/QUOTE]About USA history, I hope You know at least this land was robbed to Indians by mostly low level people coming from Europe, not belonging to the highest level in Europe and without English, USA could be French. About wars, even when losing, like Vietnam or Afghanistan or now Iran, USA always made good business from wars. Trump is same robber than those who arrived from Europe stole to Indians. At least, in France we have much better healthcare too many Americans come for, paid with my tax. And also, so much better foods not making obese at only18 or even younger.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069159]You find Trump smart? I only see a stupid and rather ignorant about the world Trump. Maybe he was smart, not to pay tax, or to make Americans paying millions when he play golf. He gives such a bad image for USA, same than Netanyahou for Israel.[/QUOTE]I think you are confusing personal political views with intelligence. Unless you want to believe that a man can become President of the United States of America and be dumb.
I might not like the polices of the current administration. But the current POTUS is not dumb by any means. In fact, I would say he is a business and political genius. Or at least a scrappy street fighting survivor.
No need to lower oneself to personal attacks just because you have a political disagreement with somebody. If fact, that is why most of what is written here goes in one eye and out the other because it is not designed to inform, it is designed to be a means of venting their political frustrations with others.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069122] I don't criticize my state and local governments because they actually supply things we need.[/QUOTE]In Texas, I do not criticize them either, but when you look at other states, it's different. A buddy told me that Samsung issued a pretty harsh memo on why they were moving their headquarters from New Jersey to Texas.
And I know a teacher in New York who got her health plan to pay for a boob job and a fireman whose health plan paid for his hair implants.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069122] I went back and forth with Tooms over the twin recessions that occurred during the tail end of Carter's term and the first of Reagan's. The appointment of Paul Volker to replace partisan hack William Miller as Fed chairman was the cause. Volker wisely raised interest rates sky high which caused the recession. Tooms of course absolved Carter, who appointed Volker, and blamed Reagan.[/QUOTE]That is a Democratic rewrite of who brought inflation down. Sure, Volker played the cards he was given with skill, but Reagan gave him the cards. The biggest scare back then was oil, and Carter kept up Nixon's brain dead policy of price controls on oil. As you know everything in the economy in one way or another is energy related, and once Reagan removed the caps, oil prices came down and stayed down for decades. So Volker was able to keep rates high and then cut them once inflation came down.
Even the biggest economic flaw of the Reagan presidency, the huge deficits because of defense spending, allowed for a peace dividend later on as low oil prices and high defense costs crushed the former USSR.
And that is just the economy. You look at soft power and culture in 1984, and it is hard to beat. Michael Jackson and Thriller, Prince and Purple Rain, the LA Olympics with Micheal Jordan and Mary Lou Retton coming out. Hollywood never was higher. TV shows like Cheers and the Cosby Show were at their peak viewership levels and we have not seen anything like them since. If you did not know times were good then, you did not have a pulse. The only other year economically as good in the USA was 2000, and unlike Tooms, I give Clinton and Gingrich both credit for that.
To say the great times in 1984 were all due to Volker is a Democratic rewrite, and IMO it is insulting to Reagan who I still think was the greatest president in my lifetime. But unlike a partisan hack like Tooms, I am willing to put Clinton as #2. I am just not sure Clinton would be all that without Gingrich.
Nachos = Not A Chance Hormuz Opens.
For the last 6 weeks, we've been hearing from the Great Genius (GG) that war is over, Hormuz opening is imminent, America has won; only to be rebuffed by Israel (who really are the ones who call the shots, and to whom America is subservient).
Consider how far America has fallen under this GG. Consider the fact that America is condescended to by China which admonishes it about falling into the Thucydides trap (to which the GG probably wondered "Thu who? Sounds Oriental, no wonder you guys side with him" Consider how America's status in the world has fallen, where many ridicule the fact that it couldn't even face up to a third rate, worn out nation like Iran; where others condemn America's unjust assault on specious cassus bellus, where many others regard with disgust its subservience to Israel. A superpower's status is derived from its military and economic status as well as the respect that others confer upon it. The latter has gone up in smoke, the military prowess appears to be irrelevant, and the economic status is being challenged in its own courts.
And this is the GG that a few of you still think worthy of respect. Some people never cease to amaze me.
Whatever the outcome- at some point Hormuz will reopen- America has failed abjectly. Iran had always foregone nuclear weapons (the ersthwhile Ayotollah considered nuclear WMD a sin in Islam); they were being rigorously monitored by the relevant agencies; there was an agreement in place which they were adhering to which Trump then tore up unilaterally. Then and only then did they start their enrichment program. And this was the onset of a series of decisions by the GG which led to America snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. And yet, in some minds, there's still a likelihood he's a GG. I really don't understand such people.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3069200]I think you are confusing personal political views with intelligence. Unless you want to believe that a man can become President of the United States of America and be dumb.
I might not like the polices of the current administration. But the current POTUS is not dumb by any means. In fact, I would say he is a business and political genius. Or at least a scrappy street fighting survivor.
No need to lower oneself to personal attacks just because you have a political disagreement with somebody. If fact, that is why most of what is written here goes in one eye and out the other because it is not designed to inform, it is designed to be a means of venting their political frustrations with others.[/QUOTE]We may not have same meaning for intelligence, when Trump twice elected president of not MAGA at all USA, is not more than a great liar and robber. When he started in business, he didn't pay tax, he tries to rob everybody. Wake up USA when he fucked You so deep with his peace promises and now in the wall versus Iran but not changing anything, but making inflation and for Americans who are so blind and naïve fucked by his daily bullshits, same than Putin with Russia, kind of twins. His little dog, Hesgeth didn't come, when facists are not welcome in France.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3069221]Nachos = Not A Chance Hormuz Opens.
For the last 6 weeks, we've been hearing from the Great Genius (GG) that war is over, Hormuz opening is imminent, America has won; only to be rebuffed by Israel (who really are the ones who call the shots, and to whom America is subservient).
Consider how far America has fallen under this GG. Consider the fact that America is condescended to by China which admonishes it about falling into the Thucydides trap (to which the GG probably wondered "Thu who? Sounds Oriental, no wonder you guys side with him" Consider how America's status in the world has fallen, where many ridicule the fact that it couldn't even face up to a third rate, worn out nation like Iran; where others condemn America's unjust assault on specious cassus bellus, where many others regard with disgust its subservience to Israel. A superpower's status is derived from its military and economic status as well as the respect that others confer upon it. The latter has gone up in smoke, the military prowess appears to be irrelevant, and the economic status is being challenged in its own courts..[/QUOTE]When he promised peace in one day for Ukraine to be re elected, dumb genius failed, but even better, he even made 2 new wars with Venezuela to rob petrol and Iran following criminal Netanyahou and making Ormuz being blocked as Iranian answer to crazy orange. He also wanted to make a beach resort in Gaza and his daughter wants in Albania, but really not welcome there. USA of Trump won't be welcome in many places, when they have so bad image to try to rob, like Greenland or Ukraine. Big failure for dumb genius and US justice often cancel his decisions.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069202]In Texas, I do not criticize them either, but when you look at other states, it's different. A buddy told me that Samsung issued a pretty harsh memo on why they were moving their headquarters from New Jersey to Texas.
And I know a teacher in New York who got her health plan to pay for a boob job and a fireman whose health plan paid for his hair implants.
That is a Democratic rewrite of who brought inflation down. Sure, Volker played the cards he was given with skill, but Reagan gave him the cards. The biggest scare back then was oil, and Carter kept up Nixon's brain dead policy of price controls on oil. As you know everything in the economy in one way or another is energy related, and once Reagan removed the caps, oil prices came down and stayed down for decades. So Volker was able to keep rates high and then cut them once inflation came down.
Even the biggest economic flaw of the Reagan presidency, the huge deficits because of defense spending, allowed for a peace dividend later on as low oil prices and high defense costs crushed the former USSR.
And that is just the economy. You look at soft power and culture in 1984, and it is hard to beat. Michael Jackson and Thriller, Prince and Purple Rain, the LA Olympics with Micheal Jordan and Mary Lou Retton coming out. Hollywood never was higher. TV shows like Cheers and the Cosby Show were at their peak viewership levels and we have not seen anything like them since. If you did not know times were good then, you did not have a pulse. The only other year economically as good in the USA was 2000, and unlike Tooms, I give Clinton and Gingrich both credit for that.
To say the great times in 1984 were all due to Volker is a Democratic rewrite, and IMO it is insulting to Reagan who I still think was the greatest president in my lifetime. But unlike a partisan hack like Tooms, I am willing to put Clinton as #2. I am just not sure Clinton would be all that without Gingrich.[/QUOTE]I agree with all of that Elvis. In my adult lifetime, I'd put Reagan first, Clinton in his second term at number two, and George H W Bush at 3. The rest were in one way or another crappy presidents.
Carter's natural gas price controls were even nuttier than the price controls on oil. You had decontrolled gas produced from deep, expensive wells going for maybe $6 per MMBTU. And gas from many shallow wells capped at under $0. 50 per MMBTU. The result was a lack of incentive to drill wells less than 15,000 feet deep because of price controls. We ended up with gas shortages and high prices, the worst of both worlds.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3069200]I think you are confusing personal political views with intelligence. Unless you want to believe that a man can become President of the United States of America and be dumb.
I might not like the polices of the current administration. But the current POTUS is not dumb by any means. In fact, I would say he is a business and political genius. Or at least a scrappy street fighting survivor.
No need to lower oneself to personal attacks just because you have a political disagreement with somebody. If fact, that is why most of what is written here goes in one eye and out the other because it is not designed to inform, it is designed to be a means of venting their political frustrations with others.[/QUOTE]Trump is not nearly as blitheringly stupid as he is 100% certain his supporters, followers and voters are:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY4sU0zq-Ny/?igsh=MWtud3o5MTEyNXk1eQ==[/URL]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3069200]I think you are confusing personal political views with intelligence. Unless you want to believe that a man can become President of the United States of America and be dumb.
I might not like the polices of the current administration. But the current POTUS is not dumb by any means. In fact, I would say he is a business and political genius. Or at least a scrappy street fighting survivor.
.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I'd add that Ivy League schools like the University of Pennsylvania don't graduate many stupid people either. Trump graduated from the highly regarded Wharton business school there.
What Sirioja and KevKev fail to appreciate is that Trump was the master of the zero sum game. Often his vendors, banks, investors, and / or customers would take it on the chin, while Trump would make money. A classic example is Atlantic City. The bond holders in Trump's casinos got stiffed. They didn't get their money back. In fact, they lost over a billion dollars. Now, normally when this happens, the debtor (Trump) has to pay tax on "forgiveness of debt" income. Trump however, through a quirk in the tax code, did the opposite. Instead he managed to end up with a $900 million carried forward tax [B]loss[/B] from the Atlantic City casinos that he used to avoid paying tax for about the next two decades. If that's not pure genius what is!
I've had two business partners who are like Trump, and working with them was a living hell. True to form, one of them made money on our dealings while I lost a bundle. My takeaway from my experience with them and from reading a couple of biographies about Trump's pre-presidential days was that based on his character he didn't deserve to be president.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069261]Agreed. I'd add that Ivy League schools like the University of Pennsylvania don't graduate many stupid people either. Trump graduated from the highly regarded Wharton business school there.
What Sirioja and KevKev fail to appreciate is that Trump was the master of the zero sum game. Often his vendors, banks, investors, and / or customers would take it on the chin, while Trump would make money. A classic example is Atlantic City. The bond holders in Trump's casinos got stiffed. They didn't get their money back. In fact, they lost over a billion dollars. Now, normally when this happens, the debtor (Trump) has to pay tax on "forgiveness of debt" income. Trump however, through a quirk in the tax code, did the opposite. Instead he managed to end up with a $900 million carried forward tax [B]loss[/B] from the Atlantic City casinos that he used to avoid paying tax for about the next two decades. If that's not pure genius what is!
I've had two business partners who are like Trump, and working with them was a living hell. True to form, one of them made money on our dealings while I lost a bundle. My takeaway from my experience with them and from reading a couple of biographies about Trump's pre-presidential days was that based on his character he didn't deserve to be president.[/QUOTE]Being graduated and being clever are quite different and Trump show to the world his lack of cleverness and knowledge of the world. For sure, he is megaloman and schizophrene and has big problems with women, so often in Epstein files and would be in jail if not protected. When he bought so many people in his life, when he was made with his family money, I would not be surprised his graduation was also bought. Anyway, when I started to work, my boss was graduated from Polytechnique school and I m pretty sure higher level than university of Pensylvania, but he was so inefficient for work, he didn't understand how to be efficient, even he was from the highest level school. Funny, people came to beginner I was, to avoid him and not waste time, he didn't stay for long at his job, not good enough, even highly graduated.
After Capitol when Biden was elected with democracy, Trump is now trying to fuck midterms when Americans, not me, don t seem to agree with his politics, lies, behavior. But USA are not a democracy, as long is Trump. If Americans who don't agree went in streets versus him, he would have to run away and hide, even too fat as told his doctor.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069234]We may not have same meaning for intelligence.[/QUOTE]I am using the English Language! Intelligence: [I]the ability to learn or understand things or to deal with new or difficult situations[/I].
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069234]when Trump twice elected president of not MAGA at all USA, is not more than a great liar and robber. When he started in business, he didn't pay tax, he tries to rob everybody. Wake up USA when he fucked You so deep with his peace promises and now in the wall versus Iran but not changing anything, but making inflation and for Americans who are so blind and nave fucked by his daily bullshits, same than Putin with Russia, kind of twins. His little dog, Hesgeth didn't come, when facists are not welcome in France.[/QUOTE]You are describing actions and expressing your opposition to his policies. This has nothing to do with the intelligence of the man himself.
[QUOTE]Only Grover Cleveland and Donald Trump are the U.S. presidents who lost re-election after their first term and were later elected again to serve non-consecutive terms. Cleveland, a Democrat, served from 18851889, lost in 1888 to Benjamin Harrison, and won again in 1892, serving from 18931897. Trump, a Republican, served from 20172021, lost in 2020 to Joe Biden, and won again in 2024, beginning his second non-consecutive term in January 2025.
Cleveland is the first president to achieve this feat; Trump is the second.
Both lost their immediate re-election bids but returned four years later.
No other former U.S. president has successfully won the presidency again after losing a re-election bid.[/QUOTE]Even if you don't think Trump is intelligent, is he certainly unique in the history of the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069257]In my adult lifetime, I'd put Reagan first, Clinton in his second term at number two, and George H W Bush at 3. The rest were in one way or another crappy presidents.[/QUOTE]1. Obama 2. Clinton 3. George H W Bush.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069261]Agreed. I'd add that Ivy League schools like the University of Pennsylvania don't graduate many stupid people either. Trump graduated from the highly regarded Wharton business school there...[/QUOTE]Wharton School is highly regarded for graduate students, not so much for undergrads. This was especially the case in the late 60's. Undergrads had an acceptance rate of 50%, and higher for junior transfers lke Trump. Saying he got a business degree from Wharton is not the flex he thinks it is.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;3069325]Wharton School is highly regarded for graduate students, not so much for undergrads. This was especially the case in the late 60's. Undergrads had an acceptance rate of 50%, and higher for junior transfers lke Trump. Saying he got a business degree from Wharton is not the flex he thinks it is.[/QUOTE]Those writing about politics of the man who sits in the biggest chair in the world are not flexing the way they think the are. If they were then they would running for the office of the President of the Dis United States of America.
[I]It is not the critic who counts...[/I]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069285]After Capitol when Biden was elected with democracy, Trump is now trying to fuck midterms when Americans, not me, don t seem to agree with his politics, lies, behavior. But USA are not a democracy, as long is Trump. If Americans who don't agree went in streets versus him, he would have to run away and hide, even too fat as told his doctor.[/QUOTE]Just sick.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069260]Trump is not nearly as blitheringly stupid as he is 100% certain his supporters, followers and voters are:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY4sU0zq-Ny/?igsh=MWtud3o5MTEyNXk1eQ==[/URL][/QUOTE]The supposedly dumb Trump supporters you talk about are successful business owners hiring hundreds of employees, they are CEO's, CFO's and presidents of large corporations, they are small business owners, they are hard working employees earning $100 K+ annually. It is great being a dumb Trump supporter making millions of dollars. But I suppose millions a year is small potatoes for a highly intelligent Biden or Harris supporter like you who makes millions a year now retired in Bangkok. Most people who retire in countries outside USA do it because they can't afford to live in USA.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069266]Being graduated and being clever are quite different and Trump show to the world his lack of cleverness and knowledge of the world. For sure, he is megaloman and schizophrene and has big problems with women, so often in Epstein files and would be in jail if not protected. When he bought so many people in his life, when he was made with his family money, I would not be surprised his graduation was also bought. Anyway, when I started to work, my boss was graduated from Polytechnique school and I m pretty sure higher level than university of Pensylvania, but he was so inefficient for work, he didn't understand how to be efficient, even he was from the highest level school. Funny, people came to beginner I was, to avoid him and not waste time, he didn't stay for long at his job, not good enough, even highly graduated.[/QUOTE]Trump turned $1,000,000 of family money into billions. Please tell the world how a smart guy like you far exceeded Trumps billions. You are just a hateful French loser jealous of Trump success. There are several French in eastern Canada with similar views living off of government handouts. They praise the stupid Canada leaders because they live off the government and trash Trump because of the success of the USA. France and Canada are in serious financial trouble. You should be more concerned on your government.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069373]The supposedly dumb Trump supporters you talk about are successful business owners hiring hundreds of employees, they are CEO's, CFO's and presidents of large corporations, they are small business owners, they are hard working employees earning $100 K+ annually. It is great being a dumb Trump supporter making millions of dollars. But I suppose millions a year is small potatoes for a highly intelligent Biden or Harris supporter like you who makes millions a year now retired in Bangkok. Most people who retire in countries outside USA do it because they can't afford to live in USA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canada;3069374]Trump turned $1,000,000 of family money into billions. Please tell the world how a smart guy like you far exceeded Trumps billions. You are just a hateful French loser jealous of Trump success. There are several French in eastern Canada with similar views living off of government handouts. They praise the stupid Canada leaders because they live off the government and trash Trump because of the success of the USA. France and Canada are in serious financial trouble. You should be more concerned on your government.[/QUOTE]An interesting statistic, Quebec's GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power is 46,000 USD, compared to $65,000 for Canada as a whole. And including provincial taxes Quebec's tax burden is higher than Canada as a whole.
France of course is a basket case compared to the USA, with GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power of $68,568 compared to $94,430 for the USA. French government expenditures are 57% of GDP compared to 37% for the USA.
Yeah, undoubtedly Sirioja makes a lot less than Donald Trump. From his posts though I bet he does better than most Frenchmen. And he'd do a lot better still if he moved to the USA, where he wouldn't be burdened by high taxation and high gasoline prices. That's important because he likes muscle cars.
I've shown Tooms more than once that Republicans have historically borne much more of the federal tax burden than Democrats. If he replies to your post though he'll undoubtedly try to confuse the matter by comparing red and blue states. I think he actually does OK financially, but when they both have a good year I bet Trump pays 100 x or more tax than he does. Hard to say though because California taxes the hell out of people and Tooms' real estate is in California.
Since no MAGAs have a clue what to think of Eisenhower's June 1960 Operation Mobile Yoke in his total commitment of the USA Military to fight his Vietnam War or can figure out why on Earth President Biden didn't adamantly oppose Trump's April 2020 deal with OPEC to jack up the price of oil and gas for the next couple of years, immediately fight tooth and nail to break that deal in 2021 or even trash and lambast Trump for jacking up the price of oil and gas all through those subsequent years as being "not my fault. That was Trump's doing. It never would have happened on my watch" blah blah blah a la Trump and so on, here is another MAGA Pretzel Brain Twister for you:
Please explain what brilliant "tools" Repub Ronnie Reagan gave then President Carter's appointed Fed Chairman Paul Volcker at the end of 1979 that helped him to begin systematically lowering the rate of inflation, virtually month over month beginning in early 1980, months before the November 1980 election and a year before Reagan took office in late January 1981, continuing into 1981 and beyond except for a 3-4 month minor uptick in the second half of 1981 but still long before whatever "tools" Repub Reagan could have possibly given Volcker to lower the inflation rate, as is clearly shown in the USA Rate of Inflation by Month Historical Table in the link below that I assure you was not made up by me as I went along just to make Carter look good and Reagan look bad.
I mean, what "tools" did Repub president Reagan give Volcker to do that other than the Repubs' favorite and most often applied method and "tool" to lower the rate of inflation; a historic economic collapse with historic jobs destruction, historic skyrocketing unemployment rates and business failures. Which, sure enough, Repub president Ronnie Reagan did apply to the issue. But not until his 2nd year in office, long after Carter's appointed Fed Chairman Paul Volcker had done what needed to be done to lower the rate of inflation way, way back in the last months of 1979, which began to take full effect at the beginning of 1980.
[URL]https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/[/URL]
Take your time, MAGAs. I see a couple of you have invested much time and posting in revising the history of the inflation rate in this way as well as avoiding my other two previous questions, at least as of this writing. So I understand it might require a bit more of your time to unravel this particular Magical MAGA Revisionist History Mystery.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069260]Trump is not nearly as blitheringly stupid as he is 100% certain his supporters, followers and voters are:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY4sU0zq-Ny/?igsh=MWtud3o5MTEyNXk1eQ==[/URL][/QUOTE]When dumb Dems like you show contempt for how someone votes, you push people to vote Republican because they are no longer voting for a candidate but voting for their right to vote. You Dems tried to rig the 2024 election by raiding Trump's house, suing him over a bogus rape charge, trying to defund him in a fraud case, and then trying to put him in prison. Then after all that failed, some intelligence insiders tried to have Trump assassinated twice as a candidate.
As for Democrats, having a candidate who did not win a primary was fine. Lying about Biden being as sharp as a tack was fine. Putting up as a nominee someone chose by the elites and who only won 1% of the primary votes in 2020 was fine as well.
And you call someone stupid who looked at all that and called it bullshit? LOL. That you accepted all that bullshit as caviar speaks volumes about how dumb you are.
And here we go again in the LA mayoral election. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/spencer-pratts-lead-evaporating-los-angeles-and-questions-are-piling-fast[/URL]
ChatGPT can't find a single example of a 3rd place candidate surging, days after Election Day, to overtake 2nd place.
It couldn't find 1 example in all of American history.
That's what's happening with Nithya Raman & Spencer Pratt.
LOS Angeles has 3rd world country elections.
Mail-ins arriving before Election Day:
Bass: 38.1%.
Pratt: 27.9%.
Raman: 20%.
Mail-ins arriving after Election Day:
Raman: 37% (+17% surge).
Bass: 34.9% (-3% drop).
Pratt: 19% (-9% drop).
If Raman overtakes Pratt, the November ballot will feature two Democrats, freezing out the candidate who ran as the race's most prominent outsider voice on crime and homelessness in a city that has become a symbol of both.
End of link. Trump voters like myself look at this and say you Dems are completely fine with cheating. So what happens next? This is super easy to predict. You dumb Dems will go back to your playbook and pay off some "expert" who will swear that this election just like in 2020 was totally fair. What you won't do is say mandate voter ID or place restrictions on mail in ballots.
As long as you Dems call people who are concerned about election fraud "dumb" you will never win another presidential election. The Democrats who show contempt for how someone votes tells me they are against fair elections. Heaven forbid you have to put up appealing candidates versus cheating.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069373]The supposedly dumb Trump supporters you talk about are successful business owners hiring hundreds of employees, they are CEO's, CFO's and presidents of large corporations, they are small business owners, they are hard working employees earning $100 K+ annually. It is great being a dumb Trump supporter making millions of dollars. But I suppose millions a year is small potatoes for a highly intelligent Biden or Harris supporter like you who makes millions a year now retired in Bangkok. Most people who retire in countries outside USA do it because they can't afford to live in USA.[/QUOTE][B]Farm Bankruptcies Hit Six-Year High in April.
May 28, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2026/05/farm-bankruptcies-hit-six-year-high-in-april/[/URL]
Wow. If my non MAGA Math is correct, this is the highest since Trump was president last time. Yet those dudes voted for Trump again.
You and your hundreds of employees must think that was very, very smart of them, right?
Continuing the remarkably consistent "Worst News Since a Previous Time a Repub was so-called president"" historical phenomenon!
But is just a sign of how ignorant those blinded by partisan politics can be.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069373]Most people who retire in countries outside USA do it because they can't afford to live in USA.[/QUOTE]Your statement does not hold up to the factual records:
[QUOTE]In 2022, 5.1 million U.S. citizens lived abroad, including 3.9 million civilians, 1.2 million service members, and government-affiliated Americans.
38% of Americans who retire abroad choose Europe as their destination.
Neighboring Canada and Mexico are the top choices among expat retirees, with over one million US retirees collectively choosing to move here.
Take a closer look at where American expats tend to settle (excluding ex-military personnel) to get an idea of the best place to retire abroad as an American:
Mexico : 799,248
Canada: 273,226
United Kingdom: 170,771
Puerto Rico: 159,515
Germany: 152,639
Australia: 116,620
Israel: 76,794
South Korea: 68,050
France: 61,668
Japan: 58,340
Most of these countries offer standards of living similar to those of the US, favorable climates, and a fair or advantageous exchange rate for the dollar. The cost of living is also similar or lower, with countries like France and Mexico also offering more affordable medical care.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.unbiased.com/discover/retirement/retire-abroad-statistics[/URL]#Why-are-Americans-retiring-abroad.
Stop hating and get your facts straight!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069414]When dumb Dems like you show contempt for how someone votes, you push people to vote Republican because they are no longer voting for a candidate but voting for their right to vote. You Dems tried to rig the 2024 election by raiding Trump's house, suing him over a bogus rape charge, trying to defund him in a fraud case, and then trying to put him in prison. Then after all that failed, some intelligence insiders tried to have Trump assassinated twice as a candidate.
As for Democrats, having a candidate who did not win a primary was fine. Lying about Biden being as sharp as a tack was fine. Putting up as a nominee someone chose by the elites and who only won 1% of the primary votes in 2020 was fine as well.
And you call someone stupid who looked at all that and called it bullshit? LOL. That you accepted all that bullshit as caviar speaks volumes about how dumb you are.
And here we go again in the LA mayoral election. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/spencer-pratts-lead-evaporating-los-angeles-and-questions-are-piling-fast[/URL]
ChatGPT can't find a single example of a 3rd place candidate surging, days after Election Day, to overtake 2nd place.
It couldn't find 1 example in all of American history.
That's what's happening with Nithya Raman & Spencer Pratt.
LOS Angeles has 3rd world country elections.
Mail-ins arriving before Election Day:
Bass: 38.1%.
Pratt: 27.9%.
Raman: 20%.
Mail-ins arriving after Election Day:
Raman: 37% (+17% surge).
Bass: 34.9% (-3% drop).
Pratt: 19% (-9% drop).
If Raman overtakes Pratt, the November ballot will feature two Democrats, freezing out the candidate who ran as the race's most prominent outsider voice on crime and homelessness in a city that has become a symbol of both.
End of link. Trump voters like myself look at this and say you Dems are completely fine with cheating. So what happens next? This is super easy to predict. You dumb Dems will go back to your playbook and pay off some "expert" who will swear that this election just like in 2020 was totally fair. What you won't do is say mandate voter ID or place restrictions on mail in ballots.
As long as you Dems call people who are concerned about election fraud "dumb" you will never win another presidential election. The Democrats who show contempt for how someone votes tells me they are against fair elections. Heaven forbid you have to put up appealing candidates versus cheating.[/QUOTE]No, the reason you vote for Repubs instead of Dems is because you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures.
Obviously.
Like you, Canada pretends to be so concerned about and supportive of entrepreneurs, businessmen and women, employees, presumably American farmers etc, people he imagines made such an intelligent and informed decision to vote for Trump, probably all three times, and other Repubs over the decades blah blah blah and that I and others like me don't know shit about how to expand an economy, build rather than destroy a business, create jobs and hire people rather than destroy jobs and fire people and so on.
Here's the big problem with that conclusion; for more than 30 years I have only voted for Dems and for longer than that I have not voted for a Repub. Which by definition means I have never voted for a Historic Economic Downturn, massive business failures and wiping out millions of jobs but have instead only voted for historic economic recoveries, thriving businesses and, depending on how godawful Trump"s favorite Repub agenda and policies turn out over the next 3 1/2 years, quite possibly every net gain private-sector job created in the past 30 years.
But anyone who didn't vote for Dems all along the way has voted for Great Recessions, massive business failures and historic jobs destruction.
If Canada could have voted in the 2016 and 2024 USA elections surely he would have voted for Trump and helped him win those elections, as you probably did.
Sorry, guys. That means I am actually a smarter businessman and certainly made better business decisions for the sake of their own farms than the dumb farmers who voted for Trump at any time but especially to vote for him again in 2024 after what his failed Tariffs and Trade Wars did to them the first time around even before the economic ravages of Trump's Pandemic kicked in.
And your vote for Trump instead of Harris in 2024 was an absolute, four square approval and facilitator of record high USA farm bankruptcies, pathetic private-sector jobs creation and lower hiring rates.
While MAGAs are doing cartwheels and backflips over the one recent BLS reported jobs creation of 172,000 jobs, my vote for Biden-Harris in 2020 produced about 37 such months during those Dems' 4 years in the White House. And that was before a so-called potus fired and threatened to fire more BLS officials unless they rigged the count or the reporting of the jobs numbers to make him look good.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069374]Trump turned $1,000,000 of family money into billions. Please tell the world how a smart guy like you far exceeded Trumps billions. You are just a hateful French loser jealous of Trump success. There are several French in eastern Canada with similar views living off of government handouts. They praise the stupid Canada leaders because they live off the government and trash Trump because of the success of the USA. France and Canada are in serious financial trouble. You should be more concerned on your government.[/QUOTE]Lying, Trump was elected twice for president of USA. When I'm 100% French since generations, I much prefer to live in France where better foods, better quality and freedom. Majority of Americans don t seem to be happy about Trump.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3069431]But is just a sign of how ignorant those blinded by partisan politics can be.
Your statement does not hold up to the factual records:
[URL]https://www.unbiased.com/discover/retirement/retire-abroad-statistics[/URL]#Why-are-Americans-retiring-abroad.
Stop hating and get your facts straight![/QUOTE]Facts are that it is cheaper to live in Thailand than to live in USA. And ridiculous expensive to live in California. I am 100% sure it is cheaper to buy a nice condo in Thailand rather than California. I checked condo prices in Thailand on my last trip and they are very reasonable.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069414]When dumb Dems like you show contempt for how someone votes, you push people to vote Republican because they are no longer voting for a candidate but voting for their right to vote. You Dems tried to rig the 2024 election by raiding Trump's house, suing him over a bogus rape charge, trying to defund him in a fraud case, and then trying to put him in prison. Then after all that failed, some intelligence insiders tried to have Trump assassinated twice as a candidate.
As for Democrats, having a candidate who did not win a primary was fine. Lying about Biden being as sharp as a tack was fine. Putting up as a nominee someone chose by the elites and who only won 1% of the primary votes in 2020 was fine as well.
And you call someone stupid who looked at all that and called it bullshit? LOL. That you accepted all that bullshit as caviar speaks volumes about how dumb you are.
And here we go again in the LA mayoral election. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/spencer-pratts-lead-evaporating-los-angeles-and-questions-are-piling-fast[/URL]
ChatGPT can't find a single example of a 3rd place candidate surging, days after Election Day, to overtake 2nd place.
It couldn't find 1 example in all of American history.
That's what's happening with Nithya Raman & Spencer Pratt..[/QUOTE]Only in California can a third place finisher move to second place a week after the election. Just like every year republicans are leading after Election Day and they keep counting and finding ballots until the Democrat is ahead then they call the election. Democrats are liars and cheaters and they have cheated for years and no republicans can't win under current California cheating.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069417][B]Farm Bankruptcies Hit Six-Year High in April.
May 28, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2026/05/farm-bankruptcies-hit-six-year-high-in-april/[/URL]
Wow. If my non MAGA Math is correct, this is the highest since Trump was president last time. Yet those dudes voted for Trump again.
You and your hundreds of employees must think that was very, very smart of them, right?
Continuing the remarkably consistent "Worst News Since a Previous Time a Repub was so-called president"" historical phenomenon![/QUOTE]You have to be kidding! No one is stupid enough to believe a fake news clip from one of the most corrupt liberal states could possibly be believable. They are so corrupt and liberal that they are losing their NFL team. What a joke to post something like this.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069510]No, the reason you vote for Repubs instead of Dems is because you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures.
Obviously.
Like you, Canada pretends to be so concerned about and supportive of entrepreneurs, businessmen and women, employees, presumably American farmers etc, people he imagines made such an intelligent and informed decision to vote for Trump, probably all three times, and other Repubs over the decades blah blah blah and that I and others like me don't know shit about how to expand an economy, build rather than destroy a business, create jobs and hire people rather than destroy jobs and fire people and so on..[/QUOTE]If this is the great depression now in USA please give me 20 more years of this. Job numbers soared in May and USA economy is the strongest in the world. Stock market is record level and millions of 401 k retirement accounts are at all time highs. Please, please give USA 20 more years of these record economies than you call a depression. Your hate of Trump can't change the fact that the USA economy is the best in the world. Keep dreaming but Americans love this economy and it is getting better every month.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069413]Since no MAGAs have a clue what to think of Eisenhower's June 1960 Operation Mobile Yoke in his total commitment of the USA Military to fight his Vietnam War or can figure out why on Earth President Biden didn't adamantly oppose Trump's April 2020 deal with OPEC to jack up the price of oil and gas for the next couple of years, immediately fight tooth and nail to break that deal in 2021 or even trash and lambast Trump for jacking up the price of oil and gas all through those subsequent years as being "not my fault. That was Trump's doing. It never would have happened on my watch" blah blah blah a la Trump and so on, here is another MAGA Pretzel Brain Twister for you:
Please explain what brilliant "tools" Repub Ronnie Reagan gave then President Carter's appointed Fed Chairman Paul Volcker at the end of 1979 that helped him to begin systematically lowering the rate of inflation, virtually month over month beginning in early 1980, months before the November 1980 election and a year before Reagan took office in late January 1981, continuing into 1981 and beyond except for a 3-4 month minor uptick in the second half of 1981 but still long before whatever "tools" Repub Reagan could have possibly given Volcker to lower the inflation rate, as is clearly shown in the USA Rate of Inflation by Month Historical Table in the link below that I assure you was not made up by me as I went along just to make Carter look good and Reagan look bad.
I mean, what "tools" did Repub president Reagan give Volcker to do that other than the Repubs' favorite and most often applied method and "tool" to lower the rate of inflation; a historic economic collapse with historic jobs destruction, historic skyrocketing unemployment rates and business failures. Which, sure enough, Repub president Ronnie Reagan did apply to the issue. But not until his 2nd year in office, long after Carter's appointed Fed Chairman Paul Volcker had done what needed to be done to lower the rate of inflation way, way back in the last months of 1979, which began to take full effect at the beginning of 1980.
[URL]https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/[/URL]
Take your time, MAGAs. I see a couple of you have invested much time and posting in revising the history of the inflation rate in this way as well as avoiding my other two previous questions, at least as of this writing. So I understand it might require a bit more of your time to unravel this particular Magical MAGA Revisionist History Mystery.[/QUOTE]Using your bogus reasoning, you should believe Truman started the Vietnam War. He deployed the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) to Vietnam. Eisenhower increased the number of MAAG advisors, but when he left office there were only about 900 American military in Vietnam.
Would Eisenhower have gone to war with Vietnam, like LBJ did? Why on God's Green Earth do you think he would, when he wouldn't intervene when France (Sirioja's country) got its ass kicked at Dien Bien Phu? Eisenhower didn't expand the Korean War. He got the USA out of it. Remember his farewell address. It was a lot like that of another USA General-turned-president, George Washington. Eisenhower warned the country about succumbing to the military-industrial complex. Washington and Eisenhower both led men into war, and witnessed the carnage first hand. Neither would have approved of a half million man military force halfway across the world in tiny Vietnam.
Everyone who knows his head from his ass agrees Volcker and the other members of the FOMC should receive most of the credit for stamping out high inflation. Reagan also gets credit for backing Volcker publicly. He didn't replace him or pressure him into reversing course during the recession preceding the 1982 election.
Carter's case is more complicated. Yes, Carter deserves kudos for firing G. William Miller, arguably the worst Fed chairman in history. Miller's primary goal as chairman was to ensure a Democratic victory in the 1980 elections. As a result, he prioritized maintaining employment growth and avoiding recession over good sense. He wasn't particularly suited for the job by experience or education. Carter would have known that appointing Volcker when he did would hurt Democrats' chances in the election. Volcker was an inflation hawk who Carter knew would raise interest rates above the inflation rate and keep them there long enough to bring it down, regardless of the effect on employment and the GDP.
However, Carter also appointed Miller as Fed Chairman. How much credit can you give to the guy who poured gasoline on the fire (with the appointment of Miller) because he helped put it out later? Definitely not as much as Reagan.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069510]No, the reason you vote for Repubs instead of Dems is because you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures.
Obviously.
Like you, Canada pretends to be so concerned about and supportive of entrepreneurs, businessmen and women, employees, presumably American farmers etc, people he imagines made such an intelligent and informed decision to vote for Trump, probably all three times, and other Repubs over the decades blah blah blah and that I and others like me don't know shit about how to expand an economy, build rather than destroy a business, create jobs and hire people rather than destroy jobs and fire people and so on.
Here's the big problem with that conclusion; for more than 30 years I have only voted for Dems and for longer than that I have not voted for a Repub. Which by definition means I have never voted for a Historic Economic Downturn, massive business failures and wiping out millions of jobs but have instead only voted for historic economic recoveries, thriving businesses and, depending on how godawful Trump"s favorite Repub agenda and policies turn out over the next 3 1/2 years, quite possibly every net gain private-sector job created in the past 30 years.
But anyone who didn't vote for Dems all along the way has voted for Great Recessions, massive business failures and historic jobs destruction.
If Canada could have voted in the 2016 and 2024 USA elections surely he would have voted for Trump and helped him win those elections, as you probably did.
Sorry, guys. That means I am actually a smarter businessman and certainly made better business decisions for the sake of their own farms than the dumb farmers who voted for Trump at any time but especially to vote for him again in 2024 after what his failed Tariffs and Trade Wars did to them the first time around even before the economic ravages of Trump's Pandemic kicked in.
And your vote for Trump instead of Harris in 2024 was an absolute, four square approval and facilitator of record high USA farm bankruptcies, pathetic private-sector jobs creation and lower hiring rates.
While MAGAs are doing cartwheels and backflips over the one recent BLS reported jobs creation of 172,000 jobs, my vote for Biden-Harris in 2020 produced about 37 such months during those Dems' 4 years in the White House. And that was before a so-called potus fired and threatened to fire more BLS officials unless they rigged the count or the reporting of the jobs numbers to make him look good.[/QUOTE]If you were a really smart businessman, why did you waste time going to the polls when you could have spent it making money? You realize your vote was not going to determine who won?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069525]Lying, Trump was elected twice for president of USA. When I'm 100% French since generations, I much prefer to live in France where better foods, better quality and freedom. Majority of Americans don t seem to be happy about Trump.[/QUOTE]France economy has tanked and USA economy is booming. You are right about one thing: Trump was elected twice so obviously popular. I am glad you prefer to live in France. That is where you belong.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069538]Using your bogus reasoning, you should believe Truman started the Vietnam War. He deployed the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) to Vietnam. Eisenhower increased the number of MAAG advisors, but when he left office there were only about 900 American military in Vietnam.
Would Eisenhower have gone to war with Vietnam, like LBJ did? Why on God's Green Earth do you think he would, when he wouldn't intervene when France (Sirioja's country) got its ass kicked at Dien Bien Phu? Eisenhower didn't expand the Korean War. He got the USA out of it. Remember his farewell address. It was a lot like that of another USA General-turned-president, George Washington. Eisenhower warned the country about succumbing to the military-industrial complex. Washington and Eisenhower both led men into war, and witnessed the carnage first hand. Neither would have approved of a half million man military force halfway across the world in tiny Vietnam.
Everyone who knows his head from his ass agrees Volcker and the other members of the FOMC should receive most of the credit for stamping out high inflation. Reagan also gets credit for backing Volcker publicly. He didn't replace him or pressure him into reversing course during the recession preceding the 1982 election.
Carter's case is more complicated. Yes, Carter deserves kudos for firing G. William Miller, arguably the worst Fed chairman in history. Miller's primary goal as chairman was to ensure a Democratic victory in the 1980 elections. As a result, he prioritized maintaining employment growth and avoiding recession over good sense. He wasn't particularly suited for the job by experience or education. Carter would have known that appointing Volcker when he did would hurt Democrats' chances in the election. Volcker was an inflation hawk who Carter knew would raise interest rates above the inflation rate and keep them there long enough to bring it down, regardless of the effect on employment and the GDP.
However, Carter also appointed Miller as Fed Chairman. How much credit can you give to the guy who poured gasoline on the fire (with the appointment of Miller) because he helped put it out later? Definitely not as much as Reagan.[/QUOTE]The USA has sent aid to allies during wars in which we were not directly involved many, many times and no historian worth a damn has ever claimed that means the USA "started" those wars.
Truman didn't replace the defeated and retreating French Military with USA Military in 1954, a year before most historians consider the start of the Eisenhower's Vietnam War.
Eisenhower did.
No president had benefitted more from and more fully utilized the "military-industral complex" than Dwight Eisenhower. He was not only employed by it all through his military career with no other notable line of work in his life but also spent at least 7 of his 8 years in office building it up to ready for his War in Vietnam. Hell, even his green light to go ahead with FDR's planned Interstate Highway construction had to be framed as a "Military Defense" project rather than a economic benefit for him to be interested in it at all.
Eisenhower's warning against others succumbing to the lure of a "military-industrial complex" on his way out the door is no different in disingenuous Repub hypocrisy than when lifelong oil industry nepo baby GW Bush admonished America for being "addicted to oil" on his way out the door.
So you can't think of a single "tool" you totally agreed with Elvis about that Repub Ronnie Reagan could possibly have given Carter's Fed appointee Paul Volcker in late 1979, at least a year before Reagan was elected president, that could possibly have started the steady month over month decline in the rate of inflation beginning in early 1980, at least a year before Reagan took office. Why doesn't that surprise me? LOL.
Did you know Reagan's famous "Morning in America" campaign slogan and ads for his 2nd term were exclusively about how great he was for lowering the rate of inflation that he had absolutely nothing to do with lowering or shouldering all the heavy lifting or taking any of the political risk in election year 1980 to accomplish? I mean, other than him lowering it the way Repubs usually lower it; by crashing the economy, plunging America into still another Great Depression or Great Recession, wiping out millions of jobs or skyrocketing the unemployment rate into double-digits month after month, which Reagan's policies certainly did in his 2nd and 3rd year in office:
[B]Reagan's 1984 Morning in America ad:[/B]
[URL]https://youtu.be/EU-IBF8nwSY?si=KuxyLHiBqxMBuRho[/URL]
As a Repub, what else could he have possibly touted as a positive contribution to the USA economy over the previous 4 years other than something the Dem president before him had already accomplished? Nobody but him benefitted much from all those pony rides he took during his those previous 4 years like Trump on his failed golf resort courses. Not even his pony.
Well, he did try to take credit for the Boomer Generation coming to peak age participation in the labor force in that ad. Lolol. You would have thought with all the Boomers reaching age 16 and older during the Reagan years that his average annual jobs creation record would have been greater than, you know, Carter's or some other approximately Dem president rather than being dwarfed by them. But it wasn't. That's how much crap the Repubs' favorite Supply-Side / Trickle-Down economic agenda and policy results are.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069531]If this is the great depression now in USA please give me 20 more years of this. Job numbers soared in May and USA economy is the strongest in the world. Stock market is record level and millions of 401 k retirement accounts are at all time highs. Please, please give USA 20 more years of these record economies than you call a depression. Your hate of Trump can't change the fact that the USA economy is the best in the world. Keep dreaming but Americans love this economy and it is getting better every month.[/QUOTE][B]Trump's low approval rating stays steady, new poll shows. Here's why.
June 8, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/06/08/trump-low-approval-rating-iran-war-poll/90463778007/[/URL]
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]How does Trump's cost-of-living approval compare to Biden?[/b]
AI Generated by USA TODAY
According to a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll, only [b]22% of Americans approve of President Donald Trump s handling of the high cost of living. This represents a lower approval rating than that of his predecessor, former President Joe Biden, who finished his term with a 29% approval rating on the same issue.[/b]
The decline in approval is largely attributed to rising food and gas prices, which many voters link to the ongoing Iran war. Additionally, recent CNN polling indicates that[b] 77% of Americans believe Donald Trump s policies have actively increased the cost of living in their local communities.[/b] While approval on specific economic issues has dipped, overall job approval for the president remains steady at approximately 35% to 40% across various aggregators.[/QUOTE]Oh, and the majority of gains seen in the USA Stock Market as measured by the Dow and S&P 500 Indexes happened under Biden, not Trump. Trump's most notably contribution to it were those (so far) two deep plunges that occurred in response to his major economic and national security decisions.
See screen shots below:
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069510]No, the reason you vote for Repubs instead of Dems is because you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures.
[/QUOTE]Hey Elvis, Why do you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures? That's just nuts!
Hasn't eaten at El Gaucho Steakhouse!
True SubCmdr, Bangkok isn’t cheap. But it does have hot and cold running women!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069539]If you were a really smart businessman, why did you waste time going to the polls when you could have spent it making money? You realize your vote was not going to determine who won?[/QUOTE]Sorry, you can't go back and cheat on the scorecard the way Trump does at his always failing golf resorts.
Had Canada been eligible to vote in the USA elections just since 2016, by not voting for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, your and Elvis' and his business sense (would have) voted FOR Trillions and Trillions added to the deficit in a couple of pieces of legislation with zero to show for it other than millions fewer private-sector jobs created after spending it than before spending it, record high American farm bankruptcies with Billions more added to the dedicit in Trump Voter Emergency Welfare Checks sent to the Agricultural Industry just to keep it afloat thanks to his failed Tariffs and Trade Wars, Millions of other private-sector jobs wiped out, two Bear Market Declines in the USA Stock Market and two more declines that came damn close to Bear Declines, a deadly Pandemic that mass murdered at least a Million Americans and millions more around the World, destoyed worldwide economies, closed schools, businesses and travel venues, double and triple-digit global inflation, collapsed supply-chains, higher oil and gas prices, no end to ANY War America was involved in with boots-on-the-ground combat and starting still another Blood-Thirsty Repub Quagmire Counterproductive Forever War of Repub Choice, decades record high violent crime and murder rates and an America-hating mob of cop-killing insurrectionists being led into bloody battle on American Soil in a War Against Democracy to overturn a free and fair election and assassinate a few duly-elected officials along the way including Trump's own Vice President [B]vs[/B] my business sense voting FOR a historic economic recovery, millions of jobs recovered that Trump wiped out, millions more created than all three Repub so-called presidents' policies and stewardship combined, Trump included of course, no Pandemic, no million Americans and millions more mass murdered, no worldwide economic destruction, no collapsed global supply-chains, no double and triple-digit inflation, lowering violent crime and murder rates from the highs under Trump to decades long record lows and more bi-partisan pro business and jobs creation legislation in decades.
See, your decisions not to vote for the Dem in 2016,2020 and 2024 produced the results before that [B]"vs" [/B] above while my votes for those Dems produced the results after that [B]"vs"[/B].
Elections have consequences. And, consequently, read the scorecard and weep. No cheating possible on this one. It is firmly in the history books and record of actual results.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069557]France economy has tanked and USA economy is booming. You are right about one thing: Trump was elected twice so obviously popular. I am glad you prefer to live in France. That is where you belong.[/QUOTE]So funny how Trump was so welcome in Madison of NYC, number 1 town of USA for the world, and I m pretty sure would be pretty same in California where he is same not popular, and when artists don t want to sing for him. Highest levels of USA are against him, but he could fuck low brained, even black, Latins and women he hates. His voters are low levels who believe all his lies and bullshits and don t understand they pay his spending's for war, White House, his golf and inflation.
[B]The fact is that Thailand is a country[/B] California is a state within the country that I call the Dis United States of America. [U]There are 50 states currently[/U]. Although the current POTUS as spoken about adding a 51st state.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069527]I am 100% sure it is cheaper to buy a nice condo in Thailand rather than California.[/QUOTE]So now you are engaged in the Logical Fallacy of comparing all of Thailand with on particular state in the Dis United States of America. [B]If your assertion was true you would have provided proof[/B]. But you have not. So I reject your assertion until you back it up with some cold hard facts.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069527]I checked condo prices in Thailand on my last trip and they are very reasonable.[/QUOTE]Where in Thailand did you check? Are you making a per meter comparison? A condo is very different from a house. So are you comparing Apples to Oranges?
[QUOTE=Canada;3069527]Facts are that it is cheaper to live in Thailand than to live in USA.[/QUOTE][B]Are you sure about that?[/B] Instead of just making an assertion how about presenting some facts to back up your statement. The discussion is about living outside of the Dis United States of America. I gave you a list of countries where individuals from the Dis United States of America live. Were they all cheaper to live in than the Dis United States of America? [B]No[/B]!
Besides cost of living contains many different components. Not possible for you to say simply because condo prices are lower the prices of an entire lifestyle is lower. If it was you would back it up with some numbers instead of just WAGS (Wild Ass Guesses).
[QUOTE]Cheapest City by Home Price: Birmingham, Alabama (Median ~$148,000)[/QUOTE]Were the condos you looked at in Thailand less than this? If so, where? Give the specific city. Why only Thailand?
Your assertion remains that it less expensive to live outside of the Dis United States of America than it is to live inside of it. [B]This is not true[/B]. I present the following evidence to back up my statement:
[QUOTE]Monaco is the worlds most expensive real estate market, with property prices exceeding $38,000 per square meter ($3,603 per square foot). This extreme valuation is driven by limited land availability, a tax-free lifestyle, and high demand from the global ultra-wealthy, where $1 million buys only about 172205 square feet of prime property.
Following Monaco, the next most expensive markets are:
New York City, USA: Approximately $27,500 per square meter, driven by its status as a global financial hub and scarcity in Manhattan.
Hong Kong, China: Approximately $26,300 per square meter, resulting from dense population and geographic constraints.
London, UK: Prime real estate averages around $24,000 per square meter, with areas like Mayfair and Kensington commanding top prices.
Saint-Jean-Cap-Ferrat, France: Prices exceed $21,200 per square meter, catering to buyers seeking privacy and coastal luxury on the French Riviera.[/QUOTE]Please make a note that this list contains the names of cities within countries. So the entire Dis United States of America is not cheaper to live in than everywhere in the world outside of the Dis United States of America.
[B]The Defense Rests![/B]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069603]Hey Elvis, Why do you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures? That's just nuts![/QUOTE]And you thought this was a perfectly lucid and well-considered reason for him to vote over and over again for the only Party whose policies and stewardship consistently plunged America into every Great Depression, Great Recession, historic jobs destruction, massive USA household wealth destruction, skyrocketing deficits with nothing to show for it, USA Stock Market Crash and quagmire, counterproductive, forever War of Choice in the Middle East and one in South East Asia over the past 100 years?
[QUOTE]When dumb Dems like you show contempt for how someone votes, you push people to vote Republican because they are no longer voting for a candidate but voting for their right to vote.[/QUOTE]You think an adult and, according to him, millions of other adults with that fragile of a will and as easily manipulated behavior on something pretty damn important and consequential for their family, their friends, their country and themselves over virtually nothing aren't "just nuts"?
Imagine millions of Repub MAGAs voting against America, their own interests and that of their family and friends over and over and over again because they fall for this horseshit.
Stay tuned to the last few minutes where A. I. Explains why and how Trump, his MAGAs and indeed several Repub MAGAs right here "debate" the way they do with no source links, lambasting the very idea of supporting a point with some credible substantiation, the essence of the Trump / Repub / MAGA-perfected Gish Gallop firehose of lies they know no one can fully address and so on.
This is a Must-See 17 minute video, including a 2-3 minute ad you can skip past:
[B]"It Was Rigged!"
I asked A.I. for All the "Evidence" the 2020 Election Was rigged. Here's What Happened:[/B]
[URL]https://youtu.be/j0X05pZAPIo?si=ayCjGBRqxxG0agUL[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069611]So funny how Trump was so welcome in Madison of NYC, number 1 town of USA for the world, and I m pretty sure would be pretty same in California where he is same not popular, and when artists don t want to sing for him. Highest levels of USA are against him, but he could fuck low brained, even black, Latins and women he hates. His voters are low levels who believe all his lies and bullshits and don t understand they pay his spending's for war, White House, his golf and inflation.[/QUOTE]And after NYC, defeated in California. Most famous parts of USA and US artists don t want Trump. Just normal, when his daily bullshits and lies are so boring when your neurons are still working.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069607]Sorry, you can't go back and cheat on the scorecard the way Trump does at his always failing golf resorts.
Had Canada been eligible to vote in the USA elections just since 2016, by not voting for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, your and Elvis' and his business sense (would have) voted FOR Trillions and Trillions added to the deficit in a couple of pieces of legislation with zero to show for it other than millions fewer private-sector jobs created after spending it than before spending it, record high American farm bankruptcies with Billions more added to the dedicit in Trump Voter Emergency Welfare Checks sent to the Agricultural Industry just to keep it afloat thanks to his failed Tariffs and Trade Wars, Millions of other private-sector jobs wiped out, two Bear Market Declines in the USA Stock Market and two more declines that came damn close to Bear Declines, a deadly Pandemic that mass murdered at least a Million Americans and millions more around the World, destoyed worldwide economies, closed schools, businesses and travel venues, double and triple-digit global inflation, collapsed supply-chains, higher oil and gas prices, no end to ANY War America was involved in with boots-on-the-ground combat and starting still another Blood-Thirsty Repub Quagmire Counterproductive Forever War of Repub Choice, decades record high violent crime and murder rates and an America-hating mob of cop-killing insurrectionists being led into bloody battle on American Soil in a War Against Democracy to overturn a free and fair election and assassinate a few duly-elected officials along the way including Trump's own Vice President [B]vs[/B] my business sense voting FOR a historic economic recovery, millions of jobs recovered that Trump wiped out, millions more created than all three Repub so-called presidents' policies and stewardship combined, Trump included of course, no Pandemic, no million Americans and millions more mass murdered, no worldwide economic destruction, no collapsed global supply-chains, no double and triple-digit inflation, lowering violent crime and murder rates from the highs under Trump to decades long record lows and more bi-partisan pro business and jobs creation legislation in decades.
See, your decisions not to vote for the Dem in 2016,2020 and 2024 produced the results before that [B]"vs" [/B] above while my votes for those Dems produced the results after that [B]"vs"[/B].
Elections have consequences. And, consequently, read the scorecard and weep. No cheating possible on this one. It is firmly in the history books and record of actual results.[/QUOTE]Don't be silly Tooms. One vote doesn't make any difference in who's elected to national office. Besides I voted for Gary Johnson, Jo Jorgensen and Chase Oliver in the last three presidential elections. If you and 100 million other Americans had voted for them and likeminded Congressmen and women, we wouldn't have most of those problems. That's right, no "double and triple digit" (your words) Bidenflation, no $2. 8 trillion deficit in 2021, no crazy tariffs like many of the ones Trump imposed and Biden kept in place, no farm subsidies, no crazy spending, and no wars. As to the 400,000 Americans who died from COVID during the Trump administration and 800,000 who died while Biden was president, I don't think the Libertarian candidates could have avoided those.
Too bad you and most of your fellow Americans didn't have that foresight.
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[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069696]Don't be silly Tooms. One vote doesn't make any difference in who's elected to national office. Besides I voted for Gary Johnson, Jo Jorgensen and Chase Oliver in the last three presidential elections. If you and 100 million other Americans had voted for them and likeminded Congressmen and women, we wouldn't have most of those problems. That's right, no "double and triple digit" (your words) Bidenflation, no $2. 8 trillion deficit in 2021, no crazy tariffs like many of the ones Trump imposed and Biden kept in place, no farm subsidies, no crazy spending, and no wars. As to the 400,000 Americans who died from COVID during the Trump administration and 800,000 who died while Biden was president, I don't think the Libertarian candidates could have avoided those.
Too bad you and most of your fellow Americans didn't have that foresight.[/QUOTE]Nobody said any one of us "got" or always "gets" what we voted for with our single vote. The point is regarding what our individual vote was meant to approve of, encourage, support and hope will be achieved if enough like-minded people did the same thing.
Considering the overwhelming 100 year long consistency of Repub economic disasters vs Dem economic successes vs third party nothingness, a vote for anyone but a Dem is clearly a big thumbs up for whatever can and has filled in the vacuum created in the absence of American economic success at the hands of a Dem; no Great Depression, no Great Recession, no historic jobs destruction, etc. The cowardly vote for something supposedly in the middle, on the outside, over, under, around or miles away from such a success for America by voting for a useless third party candidate is still a vote against American economic success that, as of this writing, only members of the Democratic Party in the White House have managed to produce over the past 100 years. In short, such a third party vote is still a vote against American economic success, no Great Depressions, no Great Recessions, etc. Virtually no different than a vote for Herbert Hoover, GW Bush or Donald Trump.
It is somewhat shocking than an apparently educated adult would have totally missed that blatantly obvious point and instead had somehow thought it meant any one single vote by any one member of the American electorate made the result happen. But there it is. Is there a Simpson Theory about this you were applying to it?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069711]
It is somewhat shocking than an apparently educated adult would have totally missed that blatantly obvious point and instead had somehow thought it meant any one single vote by any one member of the American electorate made the result happen. But there it is. [/QUOTE]Well, the USA educational system just ain't what it used to be.
For his promised peace, Trump is not able for anything about Ukraine, Lebanon where his criminal friend Netanyahou make his business war and at Gaza, and after Venezuela, Trump is back at war versus Iran. A real business for him, rather than peace to be elected. If I was American I would have so painful ass to be fucked so deep so often. I m happy not to have my ass destroyed by a ugly old fat. Quite logic, more than 60% Americans are unhappy about orange politics.
Cherry picking isn't always a bad thing. Here's a couple that looked sweet.
- the last time the US ran a budget surplus was during the last Clinton era; presumably BJs from interns support financial discipline.
- The US debt to GDP ratio is 123%, higher than when the Great Genius took over and despite him claiming that taxing more the average Joe to buy his day to day necessities and simultaneously giving tax cuts to the very rich, would somehow support the reduction in debt.
- My views or yours are by the by. A record number of Americans (64%) think the economy is being mishandled. [URL]https://www.ft.com/content/8beb0631-7f0a-4435-8e04-33f65f8a7904?syn-25a6b1a6=1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069738]Well, the USA educational system just ain't what it used to be.[/QUOTE]What we call intelligentsia and US artists don't support Trump, refusing to sing for his meeting and justice asking to put his name off Kennedy center. When more than 60% are unhappy about him, Trump seems mostly supported by rather ignorant, quite low levels, not Nobel award levels.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3069753]For his promised peace, Trump is not able for anything about Ukraine, Lebanon where his criminal friend Netanyahou make his business war and at Gaza, and after Venezuela, Trump is back at war versus Iran. A real business for him, rather than peace to be elected. If I was American I would have so painful ass to be fucked so deep so often. I m happy not to have my ass destroyed by a ugly old fat. Quite logic, more than 60% Americans are unhappy about orange politics.[/QUOTE]It turns out the things Trump hated about the Biden presidency were that gas prices and the rate of inflation didn't rise high enough to suit him. And probably that Biden didn't start any Repub-style quagmire, counterproductive, forever Wars of Choice based on a Repub lie.
Trump has described the price of regular gas, the average price of which is now higher than at any time under Joe Biden except for 3-4 months way back in 2022, as "peanuts. " In fact, he called it "peanuts" when it was even higher than it is today and at any time under Joe Biden except for about 2 months!
[B]Trump calls high gas prices peanuts as fuel costs climb ahead of holiday weekend.[/B]
[URL]https://www.fox8live.com/2026/05/20/trump-calls-high-gas-prices-peanuts-fuel-costs-climb-ahead-holiday-weekend/[/URL]
And it only went that high in 2022 because Trump wanted it to be that high and made a deal with OPEC in 2020 to raise it! See screenshots below.
[URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts[/URL]
Now Trump is saying he loves today's rate of inflation, which is higher today than it was at any time in the final 22 months of Joe Biden's 48 month presidency:
[B]Trump says 'I love the inflation' after consumer price index hits 3-year high[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/10/trump-inflation-cpi-iran-oil.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
Naturally, we can be sure the true loyal Trump MAGAs agree with him on everything. So let the countdown begin for when Trump, Canada, Elvis and probably Tiny declare they long for the day when Immigrants really are eating the dogs and eating the cats!
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3069785][b]Cherry picking isn't always a bad thing. Here's a couple that looked sweet.[/b]
- the last time the US ran a budget surplus was during the last Clinton era; presumably BJs from interns support financial discipline.
- The US debt to GDP ratio is 123%, higher than when the Great Genius took over and despite him claiming that taxing more the average Joe to buy his day to day necessities and simultaneously giving tax cuts to the very rich, would somehow support the reduction in debt.
- My views or yours are by the by. A record number of Americans (64%) think the economy is being mishandled. [URL]https://www.ft.com/content/8beb0631-7f0a-4435-8e04-33f65f8a7904?syn-25a6b1a6=1[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's the gross federal debt to GDP ratio at the end of each president's time in office:
George W. Bush.
Jan. 20,2009.
77.1%.
Barack Obama.
Jan. 20,2017.
102.9%.
Donald Trump, 1st term.
Jan. 20,2021.
124.0%.
Joe Biden.
Jan. 20,2025.
120.5%.
Current: 123%.
Without a Republican Congress, the USA wouldn't have run a budget surplus during Clinton's second term.
Without Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats and COVID, we wouldn't have run up the debt so much in 2020. A Republican Senate was the only thing holding back Trump and Pelosi from running the debt up even more.
The reason the ratio didn't run up a lot during the Biden administration even though deficits were huge was because inflation was so high. Inflation alone increased nominal GDP by 21.4%, running up the denominator in the ratio.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069846]It turns out the things Trump hated about the Biden presidency were that gas prices and the rate of inflation didn't rise high enough to suit him. And probably that Biden didn't start any Repub-style quagmire, counterproductive, forever Wars of Choice based on a Repub lie.
Trump has described the price of regular gas, the average price of which is now higher than at any time under Joe Biden except for 3-4 months way back in 2022, as "peanuts. " In fact, he called it "peanuts" when it was even higher than it is today and at any time under Joe Biden except for about 2 months!
[B]Trump calls high gas prices peanuts as fuel costs climb ahead of holiday weekend.[/B]
[URL]https://www.fox8live.com/2026/05/20/trump-calls-high-gas-prices-peanuts-fuel-costs-climb-ahead-holiday-weekend/[/URL]
And it only went that high in 2022 because Trump wanted it to be that high and made a deal with OPEC in 2020 to raise it! See screenshots below.[/QUOTE]4,2% inflation for Trump, because of war he started versus Iran, this blocking Ormuz and making gas increasing. Reality under Trump who make messe in economics. Really incredible he was re elected, when he was already well known for his behavior since long time.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069870]Here's the gross federal debt to GDP ratio at the end of each president's time in office:
George W. Bush.
Jan. 20,2009.
77.1%.
Barack Obama.
Jan. 20,2017.
102.9%.
Donald Trump, 1st term.
Jan. 20,2021.
124.0%.
Joe Biden.
Jan. 20,2025.
120.5%..[/QUOTE]You do realize that two of those presidents' spending was in service to pulling America and much of the rest of the World out of the existential economic catastrophe and crisis handed to them at the exit of the other two presidents while those other two presidents were handed better economic conditions and trajectories than any outgoing Repub has ever handed an incoming Dem in USA history, right?
Now, what was the thing Nude Grinbitch and his 1995 - 2000 Repub Congress did to create a budget surplus in an economy and revenue stream that had already been set in motion to produce historic positive results without a single Repub vote many months before Grinbitch and his fellow Clinton dick and balls sniffers took control of Congress, again?
Is that in the same list of legislation that Repubs proposed, fought for and passed when they occupied the White House and held the Majority in the House and Senate even remotely as beneficial for the majority of Americans as, say, Social Security and Medicare, rather than another Great Depression, Great Recession or historic jobs destruction?
On the occasion of a blithering, blathering pronouncement from Trump that the Dem Senate nominee in Maine is a "thug" and a "loser" for the following reason:
The A. I. Overview.
[QUOTE]Donald Trump was referring to Maine Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Graham Platner, whom Trump heavily criticized.Trump blasted Platner as a "thug" and a "loser," [b]alleging that Platner lied about being a self-made working-class man and was actually funded and supported by his parents.[/b][/QUOTE]I was reminded of something a hopeless MAGA sucker here claimed recently about what a brilliant, self-made businessman Trump is because, don'cha know, he only accepted a measly $1 million from his daddy and turned it into billions. Well, that was before he became president and has since indeed been grifting billions on the American tax-payer's dime by selling his political influence to the highest bidder domestic or foreign, that is.
So then I asked A. I this simple question in order to clear up the confusion about it in the blithering, blathering minds of Trump and his hopeless sucker supporters:
[QUOTE][B]How many times did Donald Trump's father bail him out financially after he lost the first million dollars he gave him?[/b]
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Donald Trumps father bailed him out financially on multiple, recurring occasions throughout his early career, with financial records documenting dozens of loans and rescue operations. Rather than a single "bailout," his father injected tens of millions of dollars into his failing projects and lines of credit over the decades. 1, 2
A major investigation by the New York Times detailed how his fathers assistance actually totaled at least $60.7 million, rather than the initial $1 million loan Trump often cites.
Key financial rescue instances documented by investigators include:
The 1979 Credit Lines: Over a nine-month period, Donald Trump drew on a line of credit 18 times, borrowing $5.7 million from his father and family companies. 1
The 1980 Loan: As he faced mounting losses, Fred Trump arranged a series of additional loans totaling $7.5 million, alongside another $976,238 lent by a Trump family construction company. 1
The 1990 Castle Casino Bailout: During a financial crisis in 1990, Donald Trump was unable to make an $18.4 million bond payment for his struggling Castle casino in Atlantic City. To prevent a default, his father sent an attorney to the casino to purchase $3.5 million in casino chips without placing a beta transaction later deemed an illegal loan by New Jersey gaming regulators. 1, 2, 3
The 1989-1992 Payouts: Between 1989 and 1992, as Trump careened from one financial disaster to another, entities created by his father paid him the equivalent of $8.3 million. 1
Trump's 'small' loan from his father was more like $60.7 million: NYT - CNBC 1
Oct 2, * As a presidential candidate, Trump had repeatedly said his father gave him a "very small" $1 million loan, which he turned into an empire. * A sweeping new in...
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11 Takeaways From The Timess Investigation Into Trumps Wealth
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Trumps Father Helped GOP Candidate With Numerous Loans - WSJ
Sep 23, In September 1980, around the time Mr. Trump was laying the groundwork to build a casino in Atlantic City, N.J., his father lent him $7.5 million, a matter prev...
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Donald Trump's First 30 Years: Business Failures and Bailouts From Dad
Oct 6, . No one could withstand these types of losses given the comparatively paltry amount of money available to offset them. So Trump took the same route he did for...
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Fred Trump Helps Bail Out Son: Donald... - Los Angeles Times
Jan 22, Fred Trump Helps Bail Out Son: Donald F. Trump's father, Fred, bought more than $3 million in chips from one of his son's casinos to help him make a bond paymen...
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[QUOTE=Tiny12;3069603]Hey Elvis, Why do you prefer Great Depressions, Great Recessions and wiping out millions of jobs, business bankruptcies and failures? That's just nuts![/QUOTE]Yeah, me and what 77 million Americans all got together and decided we wanted less money and voted for Trump. Spidy keeps going on about the clean air in China and how alternative energy is so much cheaper but every state and country that bought into the climate change crap is paying through the nose for power. Tooms says blue states and Dems are wonderful for the economy while their states keep losing corporation after corporation.
The latest debacle is the Chicago Bears moving to Indiana. It is like there is a story every week of some big company moving from a blue state to a red one.
I just kind of wonder what is up with these dumb Dems. They just buy every delusional word the traditional media puts out there, and no one except them is reading it. I read some of the pro-Republican crap the WSJ puts out it its editorial columns and I want to puke. They just did this fawning story on Trump's health and the most popular comment was, "Oh brother I cannot believe my eyes. What am I reading here? You decide to write this and publish it the day after your golden calf was seen having a nice snooze at an NBA finals game? You take at face value the results of the exam conducted by his own doctor? The doctor who lists Donald Trump as 6'3" and 210 LBS?
You people have lost your gosh darn minds and I need to cancel my subscription to this paper. North Korean media would blush at the flattering portrayal of Donald Trump. They'd think it's a bit over the top."
And I agreed with every word the guy wrote and chuckled at it. The WSJ EB should get knee pads if they keep going down on Trump this badly. They are starting to rival what Kamala did with Willie Brown.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069874]On the occasion of a blithering, blathering pronouncement from Trump that the Dem Senate nominee in Maine is a "thug" and a "loser" for the following reason:
The A. I. Overview.
I was reminded of something a hopeless MAGA sucker here claimed recently about what a brilliant, self-made businessman Trump is because, don'cha know, he only accepted a measly $1 million from his daddy and turned it into billions. Well, that was before he became president and has since indeed been grifting billions on the American tax-payer's dime by selling his political influence to the highest bidder domestic or foreign, that is.
So then I asked A. I this simple question in order to clear up the confusion about it in the blithering, blathering minds of Trump and his hopeless sucker supporters:[/QUOTE]Yes it would be terrible to be a financial failure like Trump. Can you imagine the misery of living in a $200 million dollar house, owning golf courses and hotels. Can you imagine how bad it would be having to budget your annual spending to maybe only $100,000,000 a year. Having to fly around the world in your private jet. Yes it would be terrible if you had to lower your living standards. You are much more successful in life than Trump because you never ever started a business and never hired an employee and never took a risk. You can in your imagination boast how you succeeded more than Trump.
[QUOTE=Canada;3069936]Yes it would be terrible to be a financial failure like Trump. Can you imagine the misery of living in a $200 million dollar house, owning golf courses and hotels. Can you imagine how bad it would be having to budget your annual spending to maybe only $100,000,000 a year. Having to fly around the world in your private jet. Yes it would be terrible if you had to lower your living standards. You are much more successful in life than Trump because you never ever started a business and never hired an employee and never took a risk. You can in your imagination boast how you succeeded more than Trump.[/QUOTE]You conveniently leave out that Trump was given 1 million dollars by his daddy in 1969. Since that time he has been trading off on the family name. This includes the 6 bankruptcies (I lost count) like who runs businesses like that and brag about being successful in business?
If Trump has so much money (you brag like it's your money) why did beg Qater for a hand me down plane that the US taxpayer will retrofit and give to Trump for free? We need to make him pay for it. He a cheapskate penny pinching "billionaire. "
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3069875]Yeah, me and what 77 million Americans all got together and decided we wanted less money and voted for Trump. Spidy keeps going on about the clean air in China and how alternative energy is so much cheaper but every state and country that bought into the climate change crap is paying through the nose for power. Tooms says blue states and Dems are wonderful for the economy while their states keep losing corporation after corporation.
The latest debacle is the Chicago Bears moving to Indiana. It is like there is a story every week of some big company moving from a blue state to a red one.
I just kind of wonder what is up with these dumb Dems. They just buy every delusional word the traditional media puts out there, and no one except them is reading it. I read some of the pro-Republican crap the WSJ puts out it its editorial columns and I want to puke. They just did this fawning story on Trump's health and the most popular comment was, "Oh brother I cannot believe my eyes. What am I reading here? You decide to write this and publish it the day after your golden calf was seen having a nice snooze at an NBA finals game? You take at face value the results of the exam conducted by his own doctor? The doctor who lists Donald Trump as 6'3" and 210 LBS?
You people have lost your gosh darn minds and I need to cancel my subscription to this paper. North Korean media would blush at the flattering portrayal of Donald Trump. They'd think it's a bit over the top."
And I agreed with every word the guy wrote and chuckled at it. The WSJ EB should get knee pads if they keep going down on Trump this badly. They are starting to rival what Kamala did with Willie Brown.[/QUOTE]Yes, the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board does tend to make excuses for Trump when it can do so without appearing ridiculous, and where it would not compromise the EB's strong convictions. You mentioned an exception, taking the administration's word for it, that Trump's in good health. That doesn't compromise their principles but it is ridiculous. They will pillory the President on occasion, and disagree with him more frequently.
Still their opinion page is head and shoulders above the drivel that comes out in the NYT and Financial Times which I also subscribe too. And for straight news, the WSJ and Reuters are the only major unbiased sources out there.
While I may have said otherwise, the analogy between a couple of our esteemed board members and members of cults isn't true. They're more like fundamentalist Christians who believe every word in the Bible is true. Only instead of the Bible they're reading the Guardian, the NYT, et cetera.
I am not referring to Canada who said he thinks Trump is wrong about 25% of the time. Like you and me I suspect he takes Trump's side from time to time when he doesn't feel passionately about an issue, because otherwise the thread would be ridiculously one sided.
As not voting for Clinton in 2016 was clearly a vote "for" the utterly predictable Great Repub / Trump Economic Disaster that followed as night follows day, not voting for Harris in 2024 was definitely a vote "for" whatever opportunistic Pandemic Trump can once again usher in by any means available to him. Only time will tell if or when this one will mutate into a much more virulent air-borne infection soread to humans. But there is no doubt Trump and his MAGAs will not be satisfied until it does.
[B]FDA Approves Emergency Screwworm TreatmentAs Cases Rise To 7 In Texas, New Mexico.
June 11, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/06/11/fda-approves-emergency-screwworm-treatment-as-cases-rise-to-7-in-texas-new-mexico/?streamIndex=0[/URL]
[QUOTE]The return of screwworm comes after the Elon Musk-led Department of Government Efficiency, launched by the Trump administration, last year cut funding for a project dedicated to monitoring and containing New World screwworm in Central America.
The funding was axed days before the U.S. ended a temporary suspension of cattle imports from Mexico, meaning livestock was allowed to cross the border without any of the monitoring previously funded by the U.S. Agency of International Development (USAID).
Agriculture officials and cattle industry leaders raised alarm about the cuts at the time and, for the last several months, pleaded with the government to step in as they monitored screwworm infections moving north through Mexicobut they were ignored, Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller told NBC News.[/QUOTE]As even the most devoted Repub MAGA can clearly see, Trump's methods and game plan to make some kind of deadly, economy-destroying Pandemic happen wherever and whenever possible contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid has not changed one iota since he did the exact same thing to usher in and exacerbate Trump"s (first) Pandemic in his first term.
It simply turns out people like Elvis, Tiny, Canada if he had his wish, and 77 million other Americans who could have but did not vote for Clinton, Biden and Harris are four square in favor of Great Economic Disasters, historic jobs destruction, thousands of school and business closures, global hyper-inflation on the heels of global supply-chain collapse and mass murdering at least a million Americans and millions more people around the world and now they have revealed a special love for higher beef prices, higher gas prices, higher grocery prices and rates of inflation all around while purchasing power for most Americans declines and for blood-thirsty Repub quagmire, counterproductive, forever Wars of Choice based on Repub lies.
And it isn't as though there hasn't been a 100 year consistent pattern of the these kind of catastrophes and disasters being the outcome whenever a Dem is not in the White House. The unavoidable awareness of it has been right there in front of them all their lives and more available to them for research over the past few decades than ever before.
Oh well.
We tried.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3069964]You conveniently leave out that Trump was given 1 million dollars by his daddy in 1969. Since that time he has been trading off on the family name. This includes the 6 bankruptcies (I lost count) like who runs businesses like that and brag about being successful in business?
If Trump has so much money (you brag like it's your money) why did beg Qater for a hand me down plane that the US taxpayer will retrofit and give to Trump for free? We need to make him pay for it. He a cheapskate penny pinching "billionaire. "[/QUOTE]He didn't beg for the plane. It was offered to the USA government because the new air force one was delayed at least 7 years. The plane would have had a 2-3 year refurbishment so Trump would never ever fly in it. It would be for future presidents. Not a bad deal for America. Turning a million into billions still takes an extraordinary businessman. I would bet that very few in the world could do it. I know I couldn't turn a million into a billion. I was a successful businessman and did not make a billion but I suppose you did the way you discount Trump business sense.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3069964]You conveniently leave out that Trump was given 1 million dollars by his daddy in 1969. Since that time he has been trading off on the family name. This includes the 6 bankruptcies (I lost count) like who runs businesses like that and brag about being successful in business?
If Trump has so much money (you brag like it's your money) why did beg Qater for a hand me down plane that the US taxpayer will retrofit and give to Trump for free? We need to make him pay for it. He a cheapskate penny pinching "billionaire. "[/QUOTE]And was not Trump a specialist not to pay tax for his business? And now he makes Americans paying for his golf, for his wars, for his inflation.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070001]He didn't beg for the plane. It was offered to the USA government because the new air force one was delayed at least 7 years. The plane would have had a 2-3 year refurbishment so Trump would never ever fly in it. It would be for future presidents. Not a bad deal for America. Turning a million into billions still takes an extraordinary businessman. I would bet that very few in the world could do it. I know I couldn't turn a million into a billion. I was a successful businessman and did not make a billion but I suppose you did the way you discount Trump business sense.[/QUOTE]How do you know he had so much a $1 more than he owed in debts before he squeaked out a razor-thin election victory and immediately launched into trading political and government contract favors for Billions in bribes for the Trump Crime Family?
Have you seen his tax returns for the decades before he became so-called president? When was that? Where? Got a link for that?
His handlers are working furiously to prevent anyone from ever seeing or auditing his tax returns going all the way back to the times when his daddy gave him $1 million, he lost that in a nanosecond and then his daddy plowed through a seemingless endless series of million dollar bailouts here, million dolar bailouts there, some illegal, some questionable until the day his daddy died and the million dollar bailouts came to a halt.
As boastful as Trump is about things he had nothing whatsoever to do with, why wouldn't he want the world to see what a brilliant businessman he was all those decades before and during his time as the most corrupt, grifting president in history?
My god. How horrible must it be for Trump to desperately hide his tax returns for ever and ever?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070044]How do you know he had so much a $1 more than he owed in debts before he squeaked out a razor-thin election victory and immediately launched into trading political and government contract favors for Billions in bribes for the Trump Crime Family?
Have you seen his tax returns for the decades before he became so-called president? When was that? Where? Got a link for that?
His handlers are working furiously to prevent anyone from ever seeing or auditing his tax returns going all the way back to the times when his daddy gave him $1 million, he lost that in a nanosecond and then his daddy plowed through a seemingless endless series of million dollar bailouts here, million dolar bailouts there, some illegal, some questionable until the day his daddy died and the million dollar bailouts came to a halt.
As boastful as Trump is about things he had nothing whatsoever to do with, why wouldn't he want the world to see what a brilliant businessman he was all those decades before and during his time as the most corrupt, grifting president in history?[/QUOTE]Qatar give money to terrorists, so they can offer a boeing to Trump, quite same for my ethic. In my country, in my town, I don t support Paris soccer team owned by Qatar. I would have been happy if they left Paris after their slavery 2022 soccer worldcup, when big mistake to organize 2026 worldcup in USA of Trump, shameful for Iran team and Sudanian refereee, but this is USA of Trump and shameful Infantino suck him, when USA are nothing for soccer. Mexico is a real country for soccer, when probably best ever worldcup was in Mexico in 1970, when I was unfortunately too young.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070044]How do you know he had so much a $1 more than he owed in debts before he squeaked out a razor-thin election victory and immediately launched into trading political and government contract favors for Billions in bribes for the Trump Crime Family?
Have you seen his tax returns for the decades before he became so-called president? When was that? Where? Got a link for that?
His handlers are working furiously to prevent anyone from ever seeing or auditing his tax returns going all the way back to the times when his daddy gave him $1 million, he lost that in a nanosecond and then his daddy plowed through a seemingless endless series of million dollar bailouts here, million dolar bailouts there, some illegal, some questionable until the day his daddy died and the million dollar bailouts came to a halt.
As boastful as Trump is about things he had nothing whatsoever to do with, why wouldn't he want the world to see what a brilliant businessman he was all those decades before and during his time as the most corrupt, grifting president in history?
My god. How horrible must it be for Trump to desperately hide his tax returns for ever and ever?[/QUOTE]The returns are available for all the world to see, from 2015 to 2020, on Axios' web site. The NYT has seen returns for about 25 more years and reported on them. I'm not giving you links. You'll learn more if you do your own work.
Trump would argue his tax losses, like his bankruptcies, are reflections of his genius. And he's got a point. If I were in his shoes I would have tried harder to repay my creditors. But I don't begrudge him legally avoiding taxes imposed by our wasteful federal government. That said, someone just looking at his returns would come away with a very unrealistic picture of the billionaire class and tax fairness. Most billionaires pay far more than their fair share. Trump, maybe not, at the federal level at least.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070100]The returns are available for all the world to see, from 2015 to 2020, on Axios' web site. The NYT has seen returns for about 25 more years and reported on them. I'm not giving you links. You'll learn more if you do your own work.
Trump would argue his tax losses, like his bankruptcies, are reflections of his genius. And he's got a point. If I were in his shoes I would have tried to repay my creditors. But I don't begrudge him legally avoiding taxes imposed by our wasteful federal government. That said, someone just looking at his returns would come away with a very unrealistic picture of the billionaire class and tax fairness. Most billionaires pay far more than their fair share. Trump, maybe not, at the federal level at least.[/QUOTE]I guess that would partially explain why he filed a 10 billion dollar junk lawsuit against the US Taxpayer and was on both sides. You are free to sell all of your belongings and give your money to Trump if you please. The rest of us do not want to give our hard earned money away to someone who does not need it.
Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3069998]It simply turns out people like Elvis, Tiny, Canada if he had his wish, and 77 million other Americans who could have but did not vote for Clinton, Biden and Harris are four square in favor of Great Economic Disasters.[/QUOTE]Are you fucking serious? Clinton was probably the second best president in my lifetime. Outside of his questionable morals, he was the total package: smart, funny, likeable, shrewd. Clinton was so good that he forced Republicans to up their game and Gingrich and his contact with America was the best Congressional campaign I have ever seen. It was government and its finest, and we all benefitted.
The problem with a loser like you is the Democrats do not have to do anything and they have your vote, and that is why you are so foolish as to put Clinton in the same class as Biden and Harris. Hell, you do not even say Biden administration. Whereas Clinton was in full control of his administration, Biden could not even walk without falling over. The great mystery of the Biden administration was who was actually operating the White House.
In fact, one of the only acts Biden did himself was the act of a petulant child. He endoresed Harris because he knew she was such a shit candidate and wanted to fuck over the Democratic party for abandoning him. The sacking of Biden was just further proof that you dumb Dems could give a shit about who won the vote. All that mattered was that you hold onto power. Once it looked like Biden had no chance after the debate, the lies of Biden being sharp as a tack went full mute.
Of course, when you call Trump voters stupid, you speak at an even louder volume about yourselves. If Biden was so fucking great for the economy and he won the primaries, how was sacking Biden not the stupidest move in the history of the Democratic party? Why did you Democrats deprive the country of four more years of the great Joe Biden? Hmmm?
When you are a cult member without principles, you cannot answer the question and so you won't. So do us all a favor and stop with your tired partisan drivel and grab a megaphone and find a street corner to go yell on. That is the profession that you are best suited for.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070103]I guess that would partially explain why he filed a 10 billion dollar junk lawsuit against the US Taxpayer and was on both sides. You are free to sell all of your belongings and give your money to Trump if you please. The rest of us do not want to give our hard earned money away to someone who does not need it.
Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes?[/QUOTE]I don't understand why you keep directing indignant, self-righteous posts at me that I agree with. Give my money to Trump? I've said more than once here that I would not do business with him, as a vendor, customer, investor, banker or in any other capacity.
I know more about how Trump "dodged his taxes" than most. He was much more aggressive than I would be. You're not going to see me riding to the rescue of the IRS though. Why don't you do that, instead of wallowing in your TDS. See my reply to Tooms about where to find Trump's tax returns and show some initiative.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070116]Are you fucking serious? Clinton was probably the second best president in my lifetime. Outside of his questionable morals, he was the total package: smart, funny, likeable, shrewd. Clinton was so good that he forced Republicans to up their game and Gingrich and his contact with America was the best Congressional campaign I have ever seen. It was government and its finest, and we all benefitted.
The problem with a loser like you is the Democrats do not have to do anything and they have your vote, and that is why you are so foolish as to put Clinton in the same class as Biden and Harris. Hell, you do not even say Biden administration. Whereas Clinton was in full control of his administration, Biden could not even walk without falling over. The great mystery of the Biden administration was who was actually operating the White House.
In fact, one of the only acts Biden did himself was the act of a petulant child. He endoresed Harris because he knew she was such a shit candidate and wanted to fuck over the Democratic party for abandoning him. The sacking of Biden was just further proof that you dumb Dems could give a shit about who won the vote. All that mattered was that you hold onto power. Once it looked like Biden had no chance after the debate, the lies of Biden being sharp as a tack went full mute.
Of course, when you call Trump voters stupid, you speak at an even louder volume about yourselves. If Biden was so fucking great for the economy and he won the primaries, how was sacking Biden not the stupidest move in the history of the Democratic party? Why did you Democrats deprive the country of four more years of the great Joe Biden? Hmmm?
When you are a cult member without principles, you cannot answer the question and so you won't. So do us all a favor and stop with your tired partisan drivel and grab a megaphone and find a street corner to go yell on. That is the profession that you are best suited for.[/QUOTE]Good post. Maybe a little harsh but Tooms needs some tough love.
Yes Clinton, aided by a Republican Congress, did a great job in his second term. But Democrats are becoming more and more progressive (that is, borderline loony). The Biden of 30 years ago wasn't the man in the White House. Progressives, more than a few installed by Elizabeth Warren, called the shots. He wasn't capable, especially in his last two years, given his dementia.
It's too bad Republican primary voters in 2020 didn't learn from watching Biden when they picked Trump. America's supposed to be a Democracy, not a Gerontocracy.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070100]The returns are available for all the world to see, from 2015 to 2020, on Axios' web site. The NYT has seen returns for about 25 more years and reported on them. I'm not giving you links. You'll learn more if you do your own work.
Trump would argue his tax losses, like his bankruptcies, are reflections of his genius. And he's got a point. If I were in his shoes I would have tried harder to repay my creditors. But I don't begrudge him legally avoiding taxes imposed by our wasteful federal government. That said, someone just looking at his returns would come away with a very unrealistic picture of the billionaire class and tax fairness. Most billionaires pay far more than their fair share. Trump, maybe not, at the federal level at least.[/QUOTE]Deadbeat Repub much?
Here, let me help you with that and thereby demonstrate along the way why I wouldn't have wanted to provide a link if I were arguing your and Canada's side either.
Oh, BTW, yes of course there is a direct NYT link for this Real News report. But it is blocked from freely reading it behind a paywall. So this link is a better one to post on message boards. As would be one for The Guardian. Just FYI.
[B]5 takeaways from NY Times report on Trump's tax returns.
Sept. 28, 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-takeaways-ny-times-report-021700525.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]
[QUOTE]WASHINGTON AP A New York Times report that President Donald Trump paid just $750 in federal income tax the year he entered the White House - and, thanks to [b]colossal losses[/b], no income tax at all in 11 of the 18 years that the Times reviewed - [b]served to raise doubts about Trump's self-image as a shrewd and successful businessman.[/b]
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TRUMP HAS FINANCED AN EXTRAVAGANT LIFESTYLE WITH THE USE OF BUSINESS EXPENSES.
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MANY OF HIS BEST-KNOWN BUSINESSES ARE MONEY-LOSERS
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FOREIGN VISITORS HAVE HELPED SUPPORT TRUMP'S PROPERTIES
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TRUMP WILL FACE FINANCIAL PRESSURE AS DEBTS COME DUE
Trump seems sure to face heavy financial pressures from the [b]enormous pile of debt he has absorbed.[/b] The Times said the president appears to be responsible for $421 million in loans, most of which will come due within four years. On top of that, a $100 million mortgage on Trump Tower in New York will come due in 2022.
[/QUOTE]Gee, if I were the "successful, smart businesman" and blatantly obvious con man Trump is and owed one hell of a lot more than I ever earned, what would be the next slick move I might make to con 70 - 77 million dumb Repub hillbillies into putting me in a position to make someone else pay back all of my business loss debts? You know, like the American working men and women tax-payers.
Lolol.
Yeah, you and Canada would be much better off staying miles away from any links to support your usual utterly made up horseshit excuses for your historic deadbeat know nothing, do nothing Repub heros.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070127]I don't understand why you keep directing indignant, self-righteous posts at me that I agree with. Give my money to Trump? I've said more than once here that I would not do business with him, as a vendor, customer, investor, banker or in any other capacity.
I know more about how Trump "dodged his taxes" than most. He was much more aggressive than I would be. You're not going to see me riding to the rescue of the IRS though. Why don't you do that, instead of wallowing in your TDS. See my reply to Tooms about where to find Trump's tax returns and show some initiative.[/QUOTE]Indignant? You lost me when you made that leap. I asked a simple question: Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes? There's nothing "legal" about what Trump is doing yet you make excuses for him as if you a spokespersons.
This is what gets me about Trumper's they can dish out but can't take incoming.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070001]He didn't beg for the plane. It was offered to the USA government because the new air force one was delayed at least 7 years. The plane would have had a 2-3 year refurbishment so Trump would never ever fly in it. It would be for future presidents. Not a bad deal for America. Turning a million into billions still takes an extraordinary businessman. I would bet that very few in the world could do it. I know I couldn't turn a million into a billion. I was a successful businessman and did not make a billion but I suppose you did the way you discount Trump business sense.[/QUOTE]We have more important issues than what type of plane wants to fly. The reason why it's taken so long is that Trump wants to change the color of the plane that screwed things up because the darker colors would cause the plane to heat up.
Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?
Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has. Here's what going to happen: he's going to get a stripped down plane and it be at his own expense. So, someone needs wake him up during one those cabinet meetings and remind that his mug won't be on our money and there will be no take home plane.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070096]Qatar give money to terrorists, so they can offer a boeing to Trump, quite same for my ethic. In my country, in my town, I don t support Paris soccer team owned by Qatar. I would have been happy if they left Paris after their slavery 2022 soccer worldcup, when big mistake to organize 2026 worldcup in USA of Trump, shameful for Iran team and Sudanian refereee, but this is USA of Trump and shameful Infantino suck him, when USA are nothing for soccer. Mexico is a real country for soccer, when probably best ever worldcup was in Mexico in 1970, when I was unfortunately too young.[/QUOTE]My mistake and apologize, not Sudan, but Somalian for the best referee of Africa who was not allowed to do his job in worldcup. About Qatar, we know their slavery and how they use to buy people and Trump.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]We have more important issues than what type of plane wants to fly. The reason why it's taken so long is that Trump wants to change the color of the plane that screwed things up because the darker colors would cause the plane to heat up.
Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?
Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has. Here's what going to happen: he's going to get a stripped down plane and it be at his own expense. So, someone needs wake him up during one those cabinet meetings and remind that his mug won't be on our money and there will be no take home plane.[/QUOTE]That is your opinion. Just not the truth.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070134]Indignant? You lost me when you made that leap. I asked a simple question: Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes? There's nothing "legal" about what Trump is doing yet you make excuses for him as if you a spokespersons.
This is what gets me about Trumper's they can dish out but can't take incoming.[/QUOTE]Legitimate expenses and losses are not dodging taxes. Every business man in USA does this including myself. Including Obama, including every person in congress. Yes everyone would be fine with Obama dodging his taxes like Trump did but Obama was never smart enough to have a business. He was a career politician.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070044]How do you know he had so much a $1 more than he owed in debts before he squeaked out a razor-thin election victory and immediately launched into trading political and government contract favors for Billions in bribes for the Trump Crime Family?
Have you seen his tax returns for the decades before he became so-called president? When was that? Where? Got a link for that?
His handlers are working furiously to prevent anyone from ever seeing or auditing his tax returns going all the way back to the times when his daddy gave him $1 million, he lost that in a nanosecond and then his daddy plowed through a seemingless endless series of million dollar bailouts here, million dolar bailouts there, some illegal, some questionable until the day his daddy died and the million dollar bailouts came to a halt.
As boastful as Trump is about things he had nothing whatsoever to do with, why wouldn't he want the world to see what a brilliant businessman he was all those decades before and during his time as the most corrupt, grifting president in history?[/QUOTE]I understand that people like you who never had a business and never employed anybody would not understand the tax code. If you don't understand the tax code for businesses you should be making up hypothetical cases about Trump or anybody else. You just face the fact that Trump is a very successful businessman. You can't accept his success or the success of America. Criticizing Trump successes only and add me the Obama and Biden presidencies look worse.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070204]Legitimate expenses and losses are not dodging taxes. Every business man in USA does this including myself. Including Obama, including every person in congress. Yes everyone would be fine with Obama dodging his taxes like Trump did but Obama was never smart enough to have a business. He was a career politician.[/QUOTE]Then why did Trump have his defense attorney Todd Blanche (cosplaying as AG) present him with an out by barring the investigation and punishment for cheating on his taxes for the last several decades?
His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a "smart" businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]We have more important issues than what type of plane wants to fly. The reason why it's taken so long is that Trump wants to change the color of the plane that screwed things up because the darker colors would cause the plane to heat up.
Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?
Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has. Here's what going to happen: he's going to get a stripped down plane and it be at his own expense. So, someone needs wake him up during one those cabinet meetings and remind that his mug won't be on our money and there will be no take home plane.[/QUOTE]Obviously you don't have a clue. It has been a proven fact that Trump would never fly in tat plane. Why do you continue to post this garbage?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070130]Deadbeat Repub much?
Here, let me help you with that and thereby demonstrate along the way why I wouldn't have wanted to provide a link if I were arguing your and Canada's side either.
Oh, BTW, yes of course there is a direct NYT link for this Real News report. But it is blocked from freely reading it behind a paywall. So this link is a better one to post on message boards. As would be one for The Guardian. Just FYI.
[B]5 takeaways from NY Times report on Trump's tax returns.
Sept. 28, 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-takeaways-ny-times-report-021700525.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]
Gee, if I were the "successful, smart businesman" and blatantly obvious con man Trump is and owed one hell of a lot more than I ever earned, what would be the next slick move I might make to con 70 - 77 million dumb Repub hillbillies into putting me in a position to make someone else pay back all of my business loss debts? You know, like the American working men and women tax-payers..[/QUOTE]Some people are smart enough not to even read fake links from these liberal anti Trump sites. Obviously you are not? Sad.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070134]Indignant? You lost me when you made that leap. I asked a simple question: Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes? There's nothing "legal" about what Trump is doing yet you make excuses for him as if you a spokespersons.
This is what gets me about Trumper's they can dish out but can't take incoming.[/QUOTE]I'm a fair and balanced classical liberal, not a Trumper. That's why the Marquesa hates me more than Tooms.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]
Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has.[/QUOTE]That's ridiculous. Marcos created a world class kleptocracy. Trump isn't in the same league. If you look at their entire political careers, Trump isn't even close to Lyndon Baines Johnson, the man who's responsible for some of Toom's beloved legislation that's going to bankrupt America. Trump tried to steal an election. LBJ actually did. And practically all of LBJ's sizeable fortune came from corruption.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]
Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?
[/QUOTE]Trump's pretty brazen, but he'd never attempt to use Qatar's Air Force One after he leaves office. He looks at it like his name on the Kennedy Center, his face on Mount Rushmore, and the Big Beautiful Ballroom. It will sit in the Trump presidential museum, and serve as a tribute to his greatness. Yes I suspect outfitting it is a waste of taxpayer money. And no, accepting a $400 million gift from Qatar on behalf of the USA was not wise.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070130]Deadbeat Repub much?
Here, let me help you with that and thereby demonstrate along the way why I wouldn't have wanted to provide a link if I were arguing your and Canada's side either.
Oh, BTW, yes of course there is a direct NYT link for this Real News report. But it is blocked from freely reading it behind a paywall. So this link is a better one to post on message boards. As would be one for The Guardian. Just FYI.
[B]5 takeaways from NY Times report on Trump's tax returns.
Sept. 28, 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-takeaways-ny-times-report-021700525.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]
Gee, if I were the "successful, smart businesman" and blatantly obvious con man Trump is and owed one hell of a lot more than I ever earned, what would be the next slick move I might make to con 70 - 77 million dumb Repub hillbillies into putting me in a position to make someone else pay back all of my business loss debts? You know, like the American working men and women tax-payers.
Lolol.
Yeah, you and Canada would be much better off staying miles away from any links to support your usual utterly made up horseshit excuses for your historic deadbeat know nothing, do nothing Repub heros.[/QUOTE]That's weak Tooms. I could do a lot better without insulting 70-77 million Americans.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070265]That's weak Tooms. I could do a lot better without insulting 70-77 million Americans.[/QUOTE]Those 70 -77 million dumb Repub hillbillies who could have but did not vote for Clinton in 2016 and Harris in 2024 have done so much damage to America there is no amount of insulting them that would even the score.
And the fact that everyone knows they would vote for him or anyone as hateful of America again in a heartbeat is why America is the laughing stock of the world and will never be taken seriously as a trade partner, a defense partner, the leader of the free world or anything else of importance again.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070213]Then why did Trump have his defense attorney Todd Blanche (cosplaying as AG) present him with an out by barring the investigation and punishment for cheating on his taxes for the last several decades?
His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a "smart" businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?[/QUOTE]Get your facts right before you post this garbage. It should be very embarrassing for you to be so wrong on the facts.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070329]Get your facts right before you post this garbage. It should be very embarrassing for you to be so wrong on the facts.[/QUOTE]What "facts" do I need to get "right?" You act like I just insulted your girlfriend.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070213]Then why did Trump have his defense attorney Todd Blanche (cosplaying as AG) present him with an out by barring the investigation and punishment for cheating on his taxes for the last several decades?[/QUOTE]The U.S. Department of Justice has issued a settlement addendum that forever bars the IRS from auditing or investigating Donald Trump, his family, and his businesses regarding any tax returns filed before the agreement's effective date. Signed on May 19, 2026, by Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, the order explicitly states the government is "forever barred and precluded" from pursuing examinations into unpaid taxes or other claims related to past filings for the President and his affiliates.
Scope and Terms The one-page document expands a broader settlement in which Trump dropped a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over alleged tax return leaks. In exchange, the administration established a nearly $1.8 billion "Anti-Weaponization Fund" to compensate individuals claiming government persecution, though Trump and his sons are ineligible to receive payouts from this fund. The tax investigation ban applies to all "presently known or unknown" claims but reportedly does not prevent future audits of tax returns filed after the settlement date.
Controversy and Criticism Legal experts and Democratic lawmakers have condemned the move as an unprecedented abuse of power, noting there is no prior precedent for the IRS agreeing to permanently forgo examinations of a specific person's past returns. Critics argue the arrangement violates federal statutes prohibiting presidential interference in audits, while the Justice Department defends the clause as a customary waiver standard in legal settlements to prevent re-litigation of resolved claims.
[B]Please point out exactly in the post above is not factual.[/B]
[QUOTE=Canada;3070329]Get your facts right before you post this garbage. It should be very embarrassing for you to be so wrong on the facts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070264]That's ridiculous. Marcos created a world class kleptocracy. Trump isn't in the same league. If you look at their entire political careers, Trump isn't even close to Lyndon Baines Johnson, the man who's responsible for some of Toom's beloved legislation that's going to bankrupt America. Trump tried to steal an election. LBJ actually did. And practically all of LBJ's sizeable fortune came from corruption.
From my standpoint he is just like Marcos. The only difference is there are some restraints against the wannabe dictator Trump.To say that LBJ was a corrupt president and to say that Trump is not is ludicrous.
Trump's pretty brazen, but he'd never attempt to use Qatar's Air Force One after he leaves office. He looks at it like his name on the Kennedy Center, his face on Mount Rushmore, and the Big Beautiful Ballroom. It will sit in the Trump presidential museum, and serve as a tribute to his greatness. Yes I suspect outfitting it is a waste of taxpayer money. And no, accepting a $400 million gift from Qatar on behalf of the USA was not wise.[/QUOTE]No, it wasn't a gift to America. That's pretext Trump used to have it for himself. He intends to have Dept of Defense gift him the plane when he leaves office. He only cares about himself. BTW his name has been removed from the Kennedy Center. How disgusting and despicable one would have to be place your name over an assassinated president. All of these "things" Trump has festooned his funky name on will be moved after he is gone.
The MAGA Fuhrer (aka. Trump) is as dumbass president, as dumb as they come. Zero business skills, with zero business savvy or wherewithal. But I will say, his business grifting skills (if you can call it a business skill) is impeccable.
The way I see it, beyond slapping his name on stuff, other people have built and created, and perhaps the odd golf coarse, [B]he's nothing more than a glorified nepo-baby,[/B] who's turned losing in business, into an art form. Any "real wealth", has only recently developed whilst pick-pocketing MAGA suckers, American taxpayers and federal coffers, during both of his shit-show administrations in office.
Nothing more than a narcissist, racist, misogynist, playing on historical confederate racist troops, and deep south white separatist ideology, designed to drive a wedge between Americans and divide America. The dude cares nothing for the plight of Americans.
[NOPARSE]In short...once again, he turns everything he touches to [/NOPARSE]shit!
Along with Ethiopia, the country of Laos is now the 2nd country to ban new sales of petrol and diesel vehicles. Why spend billions annually in transportation fossil fuel, when you can make your own fuel?
Surprising it took this long for Laos to come to such a smart decision, but better late than never, as many Global South countries are finally realizing, that the dumbass MAGA / Israeli war against Iran, leaves them in limbo, depending on unreliable fossil fuel supplies.
Laos is known as the battery of Southeast Asia. It is rich in hydro power and exports high quantities of electricity to its neighbors. So for a country that has 70-80% of the electrical grid is running on hydro, makes moving to EVs imports only, is clearly a no-brainer.
The sweet smell of success. I was wrong. Hormuz will open (apparently). America has won! Yes, yes, I know that it basically puts us back to where we were earlier (aside from the hundreds of billions of dollars spent, humiliation and loss of global influence, deaths of many innocent civilians) and yes, I know that the final deal is likely to be weaker than that from Obama that Trump tore up, and I also know that the deal is tenuous and likely to be strained in the future by our lord and master, Israel, and I also know that Iran now knows it holds the world to ransom and can shut Hormuz at its whim and will use that as leverage meaning its strategically in a better position than previously. But the point is that we have got back to square one. If that's not worth celebrating, what is? It's the same as going into bankruptcy and than emerging from it. Isn't that an incredible achievement also? Oh BTW, that reminds me. The other day I crashed my car. But I had it repaired! I too am a winner.
Let's raise the bubbles and hail to our Caesar. Ignore the world's sniggering. They are just jealous.
I do wish he would stop winning though. It's exhausting to be so successful in life.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3069221]Nachos = Not A Chance Hormuz Opens.
For the last 6 weeks, we've been hearing from the Great Genius (GG) that war is over, Hormuz opening is imminent, America has won; only to be rebuffed by Israel (who really are the ones who call the shots, and to whom America is subservient).
Consider how far America has fallen under this GG. Consider the fact that America is condescended to by China which admonishes it about falling into the Thucydides trap (to which the GG probably wondered "Thu who? Sounds Oriental, no wonder you guys side with him" Consider how America's status in the world has fallen, where many ridicule the fact that it couldn't even face up to a third rate, worn out nation like Iran; where others condemn America's unjust assault on specious cassus bellus, where many others regard with disgust its subservience to Israel. A superpower's status is derived from its military and economic status as well as the respect that others confer upon it..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070352]What "facts" do I need to get "right?" You act like I just insulted your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Just the truth. I know it is difficult for you to handle that.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070457]Just the truth. I know it is difficult for you to handle that.[/QUOTE]A Trumper lecturing me about telling the truth. Does Donald Trump tell the truth most of time?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3070368]The U.S. Department of Justice has issued a settlement addendum that forever bars the IRS from auditing or investigating Donald Trump, his family, and his businesses regarding any tax returns filed before the agreement's effective date. Signed on May 19, 2026, by Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, the order explicitly states the government is "forever barred and precluded" from pursuing examinations into unpaid taxes or other claims related to past filings for the President and his affiliates.
Scope and Terms The one-page document expands a broader settlement in which Trump dropped a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over alleged tax return leaks. In exchange, the administration established a nearly $1.8 billion "Anti-Weaponization Fund" to compensate individuals claiming government persecution, though Trump and his sons are ineligible to receive payouts from this fund. The tax investigation ban applies to all "presently known or unknown" claims but reportedly does not prevent future audits of tax returns filed after the settlement date.[/QUOTE]The case in question has been re-opened as the judge will determine if a fraud was committed on the court. You can't be the defendant and plaintiff on the same case. Having filed a meritless junk lawsuit against the government that he is heading, the court will examine if it was a pretext to give away taxpayers money and create a scam "settlement " that would let Trump off the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars.
If Trump wants to pay these clowns who ransacked the Capital then he should pay them out of his own pocket. Listening to people drone on here about how much money Trump has but doesn't want to pay for anything. There's nothing worse than a penny pinching billionaire.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3070368]The U.S. Department of Justice has issued a settlement addendum that forever bars the IRS from auditing or investigating Donald Trump, his family, and his businesses regarding any tax returns filed before the agreement's effective date. Signed on May 19, 2026, by Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, the order explicitly states the government is "forever barred and precluded" from pursuing examinations into unpaid taxes or other claims related to past filings for the President and his affiliates.
Scope and Terms The one-page document expands a broader settlement in which Trump dropped a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over alleged tax return leaks. In exchange, the administration established a nearly $1.8 billion "Anti-Weaponization Fund" to compensate individuals claiming government persecution, though Trump and his sons are ineligible to receive payouts from this fund. The tax investigation ban applies to all "presently known or unknown" claims but reportedly does not prevent future audits of tax returns filed after the settlement date.
Controversy and Criticism Legal experts and Democratic lawmakers have condemned the move as an unprecedented abuse of power, noting there is no prior precedent for the IRS agreeing to permanently forgo examinations of a specific person's past returns. Critics argue the arrangement violates federal statutes prohibiting presidential interference in audits, while the Justice Department defends the clause as a customary waiver standard in legal settlements to prevent re-litigation of resolved claims.
[B]Please point out exactly in the post above is not factual.[/B][/QUOTE]Canada probably was referring to KevKev's second paragraph, "His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a smart businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?"
That's just not true, by any stretch of the imagination.
Donald did get loans and gifts from Fred, but not the family business, until 1995. That's when Fred Trump gifted the bulk of his real estate holdings to Donald and his siblings. The total value at the time for gift tax purposes was $41.4 million. Fred died in 1999. In 2004, the Trump siblings sold most of those properties for $738 million. Donald individually pocketed $177.3 million.
Trump never filed for personal bankruptcy, but five of his businesses filed for bankruptcy between 1991 and 2004, and a sixth, Trump Entertainment Resorts, in 2009.
Some things to note:
Five of the six bankruptcies occurred before the Trump siblings sold Fred's properties. Was that coincidence? Maybe not. They were held in trusts and entities. Creditors going after Donald Trump's assets wouldn't have been able to touch them, or at least it would have been difficult.
Fred's real estate empire was valued at $41.4 million in 1995 and most of it sold for $738 million in 2004. Donald according to press reports was instrumental in coming up with the $41.4 million value.
So between 1995 and 2004, there was a huge real estate boom in Brooklyn. Or huge inflation. Or the Trump children did a much better job of running the family business than Fred did. Or the $41.4 million was low. My money's on the last one, the low valuation, which would have saved Fred a bundle on gift taxes.
I tried to lead Tooms and KevKev to the fountain of knowledge, but like stubborn horses they refused to drink. So I must enlighten you. Trump and his accountants played the tax system brilliantly. During the course of his bankruptcies and restructurings, Donald lost a lot of his investors and bankers' money. And, on the back of their losses, Donald ended up with huge tax deductions, which in one instance he was able to carry forward for a couple of decades. For a project in Chicago, he actually was able to deduct losses twice! I can guaran-damn-tee you that there are board members who paid a lot more income tax than Trump during 2015 to 2020 (tax returns for those years are public) than Trump, and they're nowhere close to billionaires.
Does this make him a tax cheat? Well, no. Does it mean he's stupid because he lost other people's money? Not necessarily. Does it mean he's a genius with a high IQ? Well, you could argue that.
Anyway, as to KevKev's first paragraph, I'd classify it as exaggerated. Todd Blanche is Trump's [B]ex[/B] defense attorney. And the IRS or DOJ wasn't going to go back decades and uncover past sins. Normally the IRS goes back 3 to 6 years. My guess is that they might go back as far as 2010 though, to the Chicago restructuring I described above. Trump and his accountants definitely took an aggressive position on that one. If the IRS were aware of tax fraud, the Biden Administration probably would have prosecuted Trump during 2021 to 2024. They were going to prosecute him for being a good host, for leaving classified documents in the bathroom at Mar a Lago so people would have something entertaining to read while taking a dump. So you'd definitely think they would have gone after him for tax fraud if the evidence were there.
While the United States struggles, under the current MAGA "drill-baby-drill" fossil fuel only focused gov't, it still remains to be seen, if MAGA fossil fuels and MAGA "reliable" gas, will scale up nicely and rise to meet the ten's to hundred's of gigawatt scale power that [I]U.S.[/I] AI and data centers need.
But it maybe highly doubtful, since a very fossil fuel myopic MAGA government, can barely make robust plans past tomorrow, let alone 5-years from now. The faux pas of the current MAGA administration, is thinking, that under it's lack of leadership and draconian tariffs and policies, that American can "[B]Manufacture [B]Anything great again", after Republicans gutted labour and outsourced most everything, while also being long dethroned by China's 31% of world's manufacturing.
As the United States looks primarily at "reliable" gas to generated electricity for powering AI and data centers, it is troubled by a 3 to 5 year backlog of gas-turbines, utility grade transformers, high-Voltage circuit breakers & switchgear (assuming a MAGA United States can still remember how make or manufacture stuff) and easily jumping to five or more years for and gas-fired combined-cycle plants. [URL]https://corporateknights.com/energy/gas-turbine-delays-are-giving-renewables-an-edge/[/URL], March 24,2025.
Even if MAGA moves past the rising price of gas or the "elephant in the room", that is the supply shortage and backlog of gas turbines and utility grade power equipment,[NOPARSE] will the U.S. move beyond the growing NIMBYism and backlash against data centers.
So then...will China far any better with [/NOPARSE]renewables?
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3070442] It's the same as going into bankruptcy and than emerging from it. Isn't that an incredible achievement also?[/QUOTE]Yes, for the MAGA Fuhrer, I'm sure going into bankruptcy is quite the "business achievement". But don't forget, going into bankruptcy, is a business acumen and comfort zone the MAGA Fuhrer, who wallowed in it and knows and all to well, before landing the criminal, but lucrative grift at the WH, earning him billions, taken out of taxpayers pockets.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070490]Canada probably was referring to KevKev's second paragraph, "His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a smart businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?"
That's just not true, by any stretch of the imagination.
Donald did get loans and gifts from Fred, but not the family business, until 1995. That's when Fred Trump gifted the bulk of his real estate holdings to Donald and his siblings. The total value at the time for gift tax purposes was $41.4 million. Fred died in 1999. In 2004, the Trump siblings sold most of those properties for $738 million. Donald individually pocketed $177.3 million.
Trump never filed for personal bankruptcy, but five of his businesses filed for bankruptcy between 1991 and 2004, and a sixth, Trump Entertainment Resorts, in 2009..[/QUOTE]Of course Todd Blanche is Trump's personal attorney not acting like an Attorney General. The AG represents the United States not the president. But, here this so called "settlement" will unravel because the junk lawsuit itself is fraud created to personally benefit Trump. The lawsuit had no merit. A contractor releases parts of Trump's tax returns does not merit a 10 billion dollar claim or relief from past tax issues that were unresolved.
Here's what's going to happen: Blanche will not get confirmed as AG and the job will void this bogus 'settlement" rendered by his defense attorney.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3070442]The sweet smell of success. I was wrong. Hormuz will open (apparently). America has won! Yes, yes, I know that it basically puts us back to where we were earlier (aside from the hundreds of billions of dollars spent, humiliation and loss of global influence, deaths of many innocent civilians) and yes, I know that the final deal is likely to be weaker than that from Obama that Trump tore up, and I also know that the deal is tenuous and likely to be strained in the future by our lord and master, Israel, and I also know that Iran now knows it holds the world to ransom and can shut Hormuz at its whim and will use that as leverage meaning its strategically in a better position than previously. But the point is that we have got back to square one. If that's not worth celebrating, what is? It's the same as going into bankruptcy and than emerging from it. Isn't that an incredible achievement also? Oh BTW, that reminds me. The other day I crashed my car. But I had it repaired! I too am a winner.
Let's raise the bubbles and hail to our Caesar. Ignore the world's sniggering. They are just jealous.
I do wish he would stop winning though. It's exhausting to be so successful in life.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3070442]The sweet smell of success. I was wrong. Hormuz will open (apparently). America has won! Yes, yes, I know that it basically puts us back to where we were earlier (aside from the hundreds of billions of dollars spent, humiliation and loss of global influence, deaths of many innocent civilians) and yes, I know that the final deal is likely to be weaker than that from Obama that Trump tore up, and I also know that the deal is tenuous and likely to be strained in the future by our lord and master, Israel, and I also know that Iran now knows it holds the world to ransom and can shut Hormuz at its whim and will use that as leverage meaning its strategically in a better position than previously. But the point is that we have got back to square one.[/QUOTE]LOL. Was there any scenario that you dumb Dems were going to post anything other than this? You have been screaming Iran won before anything happened. Now you are posting nothing has changed which tells me you suffer from TDS and have your head completely up your ass because to you, this war was only about Trump.
Since the 1970's, American military has been held hostage to the notion that the SOH could be closed and the economy and our way of life would be threatened, and we had to spend bigly to not have that outcome. Well, it was closed and although there was a short term blip in the price of oil, the world did not come to an end. Even before the war ended, the futures market was predicting $50 oil five years from now. Hell, the market was so tame that there were those who swore the market was being manipulated. So here is a news flash: the great horror that the SOH could be closed is nothing now, and we can get the fuck out of the region. That is huge!
Second, Iran attacked its neighbors and regretted it. Oh, they had been doing it for years. It just was not covered much in the media. Iran was slamming drones into Saudi refineries years before and lying about it. A finance guy was detailing how so much money that was flowing to Dubai is now headed to Hong Kong and Singapore. Now gulf states like the UAE and Qatar are going to have design ways around the Iran problem if they want money flowing back into them, and they have incentive to do so. Are you going to fly Air Emirates into Dubai now? I won't at least not for a while. I would be looking at Oman or Turkey over UAE, Qatar, and Saudi airlines. Iran even admitted regretting hitting their neighbors which long term probably does more damage to them that any bomb we dropped could have.
Third, Israel and the Jewish lobby's clout is now the lowest in my lifetime and thank God for that. I have heard about how Israel is America's only stable friend in the Middle East for decades. Well, with friends like them, who needs enemies? Many of those poor Jewish people, the peace lovers who had endured the Holocaust, have had their blood lust exposed. Israel is not stable, and I am tired of the Zionists claiming they would be so peace loving if not for how terrible the Arabs are. Europe puts aside its differences and has been living in peace. It is Israel's turn. The bloom is off the rose. Israel is no longer the good guys. Like is so often the case, the Arabs and Jews are both in the wrong and need to work to fix things versus just pointing fingers. Maybe that will happen now that most Americans see Israel for what it is.
Speaking of which, the political slobbering over Israel and Jews on the part of some politicans has been exposed. When Ted Cruz said to Tucker Carlson that he wanted to be the most pro-Israel senator in the USA senate, I was shocked. Our governor banned anti-zionist signs as hate speech, a luxury he afforded to no other minority group. The record of these two in particular with regards to Israel and Jews are going to be exposed, and my question will be, who are you putting first, Texas or Israel? If it is the latter, you are not getting my vote.
And similarly, the pro-war part of the Republican party along with the neocons are done controlling the party. Of all the movements of the MAGA campaign, the one that was the most hated and hardest to kill were the forever wars like in Afghanistan and Iraq. Russia is mired in one of its own, and we thought we would be joining them. Yeah, that is over. Trump gave the neocons and hard line Jews what they wanted and it was a disaster. These groups who were itching for so war so badly could not define what a victory was and everyone knows that now. Was this really about an Iran threat or just having defense firms be shoveled billions once again and satisfying Israel's blood lust?
And a corollary to that is the American military looked pathetic. Using million dollar missiles to shoot down $5000 drones? Lying about a F-15 being shot down? Having to keep our ships far away from Iranian shores? The American military has gotten fat and lazy with their forever wars. I have heard ad nauseam about how powerful they are, and their arrogance prevented them from learning what was going to in Ukraine. They were held at bay by a third rate power, and that was a lesson that needed to be learned. In fact, the changes in how the USA fights future wars because of the failures in this little skirmish may prevent our asses from getting kicked in the next conflict.
And the last and possibly most important changes are shifts in the energy world. We will see production move away from the unstable Middle East / Asian countries to the Americas. With enough investment, Venezuela can replace all the oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf. If the PM in Canada actually follows through with the needed pipelines, China will be buying sizeable amounts of Canadian crude. USA production will continue higher and other nations like Argentina and Brazil will add to the demand. Argentina has a field called Vaca Muerta that has the potential to be another Permian Basin. Offshore oil in Brazil and Guyana have billions in proven reserves.
As for the last energy change, that is not as much related to the war but gasoline cars with ICE are on their way out, and we are not going to need as much oil. ICE cars have thousands of moving parts compared to 20 in an EV. EVs require no oil change and much less maintenance. In the nations where there were fuel shortages, the trend towards EVs has been accelerated.
I went out shopping for cars in Mexico. The BYD SUV PHEV or plug in hybrid cost $40,000 and was nicer than a Cadillac Escalade at triple the price. I was with women swooning over the vehicle. Then came the Geely E5. Fuck me. The women dumped the BYD SUV as fast as a guy with herpes and were swooning over this even better looking car. Top of the line leather seats, sound that you have in a movie theater, voice control everything. I pried my women away from the car and said we had to check out Tesla with their FSD (full service driving) feature. The Geely has FSD in China but not in Mexico.
The FSD on the Tesla was incredible and both women felt way more comfortable in control of that vehicle and that is what we are going with, but it is notwhere close to the luxury of the cheaper Chinse vehicles. It is just a matter of time before China bring FSD to the rest of the world or Tesla does plug in hybrids. Sure, 90% of the driving I do would be covered by Teslas but the Geely has 600 miles of range and some PHEVs are up to 1500 miles. Why would I not want to have both range and cheap fuel?
The Republican notion that we need to rewire everything was bullshit. You just plug in EVs when usage is lowest. Spidy has done zilch to convince me that this flurry of windmills and solar panels are a good thing for grids, but if you want to have them for yourself and give the Middle East petronations the bird, you can do so.
Musk has also been accelerating the demise of the diesel truck with electric trucks with FSD. I have been shocked at how many are already on the road.
So yeah, this war acclerated the demise of the importance of the Middle East and the crude that flows from there big time. Those who say things are the same have terminal TDS. Whether you want to give Trump credit for that or say it was just dumb luck is up for opinion, but this war has changed a lot.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070490]Canada probably was referring to KevKev's second paragraph, "His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a smart businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?"
That's just not true, by any stretch of the imagination.
Donald did get loans and gifts from Fred, but not the family business, until 1995. That's when Fred Trump gifted the bulk of his real estate holdings to Donald and his siblings. The total value at the time for gift tax purposes was $41.4 million. Fred died in 1999. In 2004, the Trump siblings sold most of those properties for $738 million. Donald individually pocketed $177.3 million.
Trump never filed for personal bankruptcy, but five of his businesses filed for bankruptcy between 1991 and 2004, and a sixth, Trump Entertainment Resorts, in 2009..[/QUOTE]Yes, yes, we know all of that already. In fact, so far I am the only one here who has provided links to Real News reports and overviews of it about deadbeat Repub Trump.
Is Trump the Greatest Welfare Queen and King of Government Bailouts? Absolutely!
Is he a "smart businessman" and "self-made billionaire"? Not without daddy handing him millions and millions over the years, generous American tax-payers bailing him out and carrying the load for his huge, consistent losses and deadbeat loser ass.
More to the point, when Trump brings that kind of "business success" experience to any elected office much less the presidency, loses everyone else's money but no worries because the system will bail him out, who benefits from that other than him and at the great expense of everyone else paying for his bailout?
[B]As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All.
May 8, 2019[/B]
[URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all[/URL]
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/bmi6rk/as_a_businessman_trump_was_the_biggest_loser_of/[/URL]
[QUOTE]As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All: Many Americans still believe he is a savvy businessman who knows what he is doing. But the actual record suggests the opposite; he is a reckless conman who burned money and relied on his father, even as he was fashioning a myth.[/QUOTE]Even more to the point here; it takes a very special kind of self-loathing Stupid and hatred for America to know that about Trump or at least to have easy access to that knowledge and yet willingly choose not to vote for the only nominees that had a chance to prevent him from doing to America his only claim to fame in business.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070488]A Trumper lecturing me about telling the truth. Does Donald Trump tell the truth most of time?[/QUOTE]Lies about peace, but making wars: Venezuela and Iran, and threatening everybody. Who can trust?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070506]
Even more to the point here; it takes a very special kind of self-loathing Stupid and hatred for America to know that about Trump or at least to have easy access to that knowledge and yet willingly choose not to vote for the only nominees that had a chance to prevent him from doing to America his only claim to fame in business.[/QUOTE]Not when the "only nominees" are bigger fuckups than Trump. Your party got rid of the Good Old Time Democrats like Larry Summers, Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin and Bill Clinton and now we’ll all pay the price
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070518]Not when the "only nominees" are bigger fuckups than Trump. Your party got rid of the Good Old Time Democrats like Larry Summers, Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin and Bill Clinton and now well all pay the price[/QUOTE]Name a Dem nominee or president who was as much of a fuckup in their private and / or public life before getting nominated as Donald Trump was fully and totally known to be before being the Repub nominee in 2016, 2020 and 2024.
Nobody in America had as fucked up a record in business OR as an elected official as Donald Trump has well and truly earned.
You fake "bothsider-neithersiders" have to stop passing the buck of blame for the horrific results Repub presidents produce to the Dem nominees that you were not smart enough, well informed enough, patriotic enough, pro American business enough, pro American working men and women enough and pro America enough to vote for rather than sit on the sidelines, do nothing and allow evil to triumph.
Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are personal and public life Superstars compared to Trump. And anyone who could not or refused to see that before those election days is an idiot, very likely a dumb Repub hillbilly.
Lolol. I've been hearing that lame after-the-fact Repub Winger excuse for how and why the Repub president got into office and produced utterly crap results since 2 of the worst presidents in USA history, GW Bush and Trump, slithered into the White House on a wave of Repub Winger assurances they were such smart businessmen, great guys, were going to protect us from those dastardly Dem nominees blah blah blah, who could never have in a million years produced worse results than those Repub numbskulls did.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070500]but this war has changed a lot.[/QUOTE]Yes, it has shown the world that the [I]Dis United States of America[/I] is on the decline as Superpower and destined to become a entity with regional power only. The transition to a multi-polar world has begun.
For at least 4-5 years we have been hearing Trump and his fellow MAGALoon Liars insist that Joe Biden doesn't know who he is, where he is, what he's doing, can't walk, can't talk, wasn't really President, that his Cabinet and staff must have been executing a Big Cover Up of the horrible truth that Joe Biden is simply incapable of serving as president.
Uh.
4 years later, it is abundantly clear that Joe Biden was then and is now more lucid, more cognitively capable, fit and ready to serve as President of the United States of America than Trump has ever been in his entire life, would definitely have made wiser, smarter and more pro America decisions than any made by Trump over the past year and a half just as he did in his term as President vs Trump in his first term and would most certainly be a better president over the next 2 1/2 years than Trump could hope to be even if by some miracle Trump suddenly wanted to be a good president instead of the crappiest one in USA history.
Yes, Joe Biden is an old man. But even today he is clearly not too old to be more connected to reality, more cognitively capable, not to mention merely more "normal" than Trump has been since 2016. It's easy to see why lifelong Repub and Trump appointee Robert Hur could not find one iota of evidence of this mythical "Joe Biden dementia" that he and his fellow Repub MAGAs so hoped he would find and report on after interviewing Joe Biden for several hours in 2024.
And, worse case scenario, if his health failed and he died or was rendered incapable to serve, Kamala Harris would have taken over as a much better president than any Repub on the scene today or over the past 100 years.
Too bad the always typically pro Repub Mainstream Media jumped on the opportunity to spin a couple of transposed words at the end of one response in a debate question into The Political Horror Story of the Century to terrify big Dem campaign donors away from supporting the down ballot Dems, causing them to pull out like scared rabbits and left Harris with only 100 days to defeat essentially an incumbent president who has been doing nothing but campaigning for his second term since 12 Noon on January 20,2017. And then there was the most important Trump Campaign Contributor of all, Netanyahu, who is the one person most responsible for swinging the crucial 0. 75 of a single percentage point of votes from Harris to Trump in the only three swing states that mattered and thereby gave Trump the presidency and his colossally fucked up 2nd Trump term.
Oh well.
We tried.
Check out the shocking recent 28 minute video of Joe Biden that once again shows Trump and his fellow MAGALoon Liars to be the America-hating lying Liars they are:
[URL]https://youtu.be/J1d3vDNmgDg?is=3hZdytpyocvtNTF1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070517]Lies about peace, but making wars: Venezuela and Iran, and threatening everybody. Who can trust?[/QUOTE]And even Cuba targeted, like Greenland. I'm so proud EU, UK and Canadian still keep on supporting Ukraine versus Russian attack, in front of Trump, in G7 in Evian. FR. And I'm sure he will be so happy to be invited in Versailles castle where was signed USA independence few years ago, when he doesn't have this in USA.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070550]For at least 4-5 years we have been hearing Trump and his fellow MAGALoon Liars insist that Joe Biden doesn't know who he is, where he is, what he's doing, can't walk, can't talk, wasn't really President, that his Cabinet and staff must have been executing a Big Cover Up of the horrible truth that Joe Biden is simply incapable of serving as president.
Uh.
4 years later, it is abundantly clear that Joe Biden was then and is now more lucid, more cognitively capable, fit and ready to serve as President of the United States of America than Trump has ever been in his entire life, would definitely have made wiser, smarter and more pro America decisions than any made by Trump over the past year and a half just as he did in his term as President vs Trump in his first term and would most certainly be a better president over the next 2 1/2 years than Trump could hope to be even if by some miracle Trump suddenly wanted to be a good president instead of the crappiest one in USA history.
Yes, Joe Biden is an old man.[/QUOTE]80 yo Trump so often fall asleep. You need to sleep when you are old, and fat don t help. Golf may not be efficient to get fit. And he doesn't even remember what he told 1 hour ago.
[B]Hillary Clinton[/B] - too far left.
[B]Joe Biden[/B] - too old.
[B]Kamala Harris[/B] - too inexperienced; not ready to sit in the big chair.
The current POTUS was elected because people are looking for someone willing to lie to them effectively and tell them he is going to help them even if he is not.
[B]In my opinion, politics no longer matter. I vote with my money![/B]
I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
He's breaking it down, he's not the same.
I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
Aah spin. That intrinsic feature that electrons possess which no one really understands. But no electron spins like Elvis spins. After all, who could spin a total defeat and humiliation into a win?! Yep, according to Elvis, our lord and saviour may have actually intended this all because he wanted to reduce American reliance on ME oil. Elvis, your talents are wasted. Please apply for Karoline Levett's job.
I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote aside from your ascribing such great vision to your lord and master. If things weren't bad enough, now we hear talk of a $350 billion payment to Iran as a sweetener for them to the deal. I mean calling this a car crash is being charitable, and yet you still want to spin this into something other than Drumpf being a total idiot.
As for Israel being diminished, I don't agree, given that it owns 95% of the senate via AIPAC (which says a lot about American corruption) and that Larry Ellison's just bought Paramount and has made it clear that any negative comments on Israel will be suppressed, and that. Well whatever, do you really think that Israel is going to take America off its chain?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070500]LOL. Was there any scenario that you dumb Dems were going to post anything other than this? You have been screaming Iran won before anything happened. Now you are posting nothing has changed which tells me you suffer from TDS and have your head completely up your ass because to you, this war was only about Trump.
Since the 1970's, American military has been held hostage to the notion that the SOH could be closed and the economy and our way of life would be threatened, and we had to spend bigly to not have that outcome. Well, it was closed and although there was a short term blip in the price of oil, the world did not come to an end. Even before the war ended, the futures market was predicting $50 oil five years from now. Hell, the market was so tame that there were those who swore the market was being manipulated. So here is a news flash: the great horror that the SOH could be closed is nothing now, and we can get the fuck out of the region. That is huge!..[/QUOTE]
I just had some Singapore time under my belt, sadly not Bangkok. But it's got my appetite up and running again, thanks boner pills!
Who cares about the end of the world when you've got hot chicks sucking you off? Get off the internet folks, go to South East Asia and get your dick wet!
And do it fast, when the nukes hit, nothing will matter anyway!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3070575][B]Hillary Clinton[/B] - too far left.
[B]Joe Biden[/B] - too old.
[B]Kamala Harris[/B] - too inexperienced; not ready to sit in the big chair.
The current POTUS was elected because people are looking for someone willing to lie to them effectively and tell them he is going to help them even if he is not.
[B]In my opinion, politics no longer matter. I vote with my money![/B][/QUOTE]So Trump was not "too much" of anything, just the right amount of everything, but especially in his ability to lie better than those Dem nominees?
The presidential characteristic Trump possesses that Tiny seems eager to defend the most over and over again is his ability to con people into losing their money on his failed businesses and investment scams while brilliantly keeping as much of their sucker money as possible and then brilliantly having the American tax-payer bail him out for any millions and millions of losses he might have incurred along the way. That is what Trump brought to his first run for the presidency.
Of course, in his subsequent runs for the presidency Trump still possessed that admirable to Tiny and other MAGAs characteristic to his campaign but with the unprecedented addition of the Worst Record of Economic Results since the previous Repub potus Herbert Hoover combined with the Worst National Security Results re Trump's Pandemic as an elected official in USA history.
But, no matter, Tiny really admired Trump for those characteristic and attributes and saw them as much, much more important and viable characteristics and attributes for a President of the United States of America than anything Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris brought to the table from their private and public / elected official lives. Therefore, he was fine with doing absolutely nothing to put so much as a single vote for any one of them on the scorecard to annoy Trump.
Oh, and then there was that thingy where Trump led his violent mob of cop-attacking and killing insurrectionists into bloody battle on American Soil to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate a few duly-elected officials along the way including his own Vice President. But that apparently also doesn't compare to the "too much" of whatever his Dem opponents had demonstrated over their many years of public service for at least a minimal plurality of the American electorate.
Personally, I didn't see anything in the private or public services lives of, say, Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris that was even remotely "too" anything to have justified what anyone paying attention could have predicted and indeed did come true about 2 of the Worst Presidents of All Time that squeaked out the razor-thin election wins or Repub MAGA Majority Supreme Court appointment as president vs those Dem candidates.
But, hey, different strokes you know.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070570]80 yo Trump so often fall asleep. You need to sleep when you are old, and fat don t help. Golf may not be efficient to get fit. And he doesn't even remember what he told 1 hour ago.[/QUOTE]Trump works 20 hours a day. Unlike the lazy democrats, socialists and French. He is allowed to nap once in awhile. Just beside you have a miserable life in France don't try to run down our great life in USA. Millions of tourists are coming into USA this week and they are loving America. Only the French and the democrats hate America. Keep your ssd life to yourself.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070523]Name a Dem nominee or president who was as much of a fuckup in their private and / or public life before getting nominated as Donald Trump was fully and totally known to be before being the Repub nominee in 2016, 2020 and 2024.
Nobody in America had as fucked up a record in business OR as an elected official as Donald Trump has well and truly earned.
You fake "bothsider-neithersiders" have to stop passing the buck of blame for the horrific results Repub presidents produce to the Dem nominees that you were not smart enough, well informed enough, patriotic enough, pro American business enough, pro American working men and women enough and pro America enough to vote for rather than sit on the sidelines, do nothing and allow evil to triumph.
Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are personal and public life Superstars compared to Trump. And anyone who could not or refused to see that before those election days is an idiot, very likely a dumb Repub hillbilly..[/QUOTE]If Trump is a business failure as president and with billions of dollars what does that make you. You are claiming to be successful and can't afford to live in USA? Maybe look in te Miriam's you will finally see what a failure looks like.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070517]Lies about peace, but making wars: Venezuela and Iran, and threatening everybody. Who can trust?[/QUOTE]Trump saved Venezuela and now the people there are finally prospering. Only president in history to finally get peace in the Middle East. Finally putting an end to Iran nuclear ambitions after 47 year war with Iran. If you don't think ending the Iran sponsor of terrorists is good for the world then you obviously are supporting the terrorists.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3070442]The sweet smell of success. I was wrong. Hormuz will open (apparently). America has won! Yes, yes, I know that it basically puts us back to where we were earlier (aside from the hundreds of billions of dollars spent, humiliation and loss of global influence, deaths of many innocent civilians) and yes, I know that the final deal is likely to be weaker than that from Obama that Trump tore up, and I also know that the deal is tenuous and likely to be strained in the future by our lord and master, Israel, and I also know that Iran now knows it holds the world to ransom and can shut Hormuz at its whim and will use that as leverage meaning its strategically in a better position than previously. But the point is that we have got back to square one. If that's not worth celebrating, what is? It's the same as going into bankruptcy and than emerging from it. Isn't that an incredible achievement also? Oh BTW, that reminds me. The other day I crashed my car. But I had it repaired! I too am a winner.e.[/QUOTE]Yes Trump keeps winning and the loser, lazy democrats hate it. Jealous losers on this site just continue to spew lies about Trump and the state of USA and Trump and USA keep winning. No sane person thinks USA is losing now. Biden tried to destroy USA but USA is to resilient. Trump is to resilient. You can hate Trump and you can hate USA but all your posts here mean nothing.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3070575][B]Hillary Clinton[/B] - too far left.
[B]Joe Biden[/B] - too old.
[B]Kamala Harris[/B] - too inexperienced; not ready to sit in the big chair.
The current POTUS was elected because people are looking for someone willing to lie to them effectively and tell them he is going to help them even if he is not.
[B]In my opinion, politics no longer matter. I vote with my money![/B][/QUOTE]LOL, "people are looking for someone willing to lie to them effectively. " Indeed, The Art of the Lie.
Hillary might have surprised us. Remember she would have had a Republican Senate and House, which was a big reason why her husband did so well in his second term.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070625]Trump works 20 hours a day. Unlike the lazy democrats, socialists and French. He is allowed to nap once in awhile. Just beside you have a miserable life in France don't try to run down our great life in USA. Millions of tourists are coming into USA this week and they are loving America. Only the French and the democrats hate America. Keep your ssd life to yourself.[/QUOTE]He's definitely got a lot more energy than Biden did at the same age. Did you see Tooms' video of Biden with Leno? Poor Joe couldn't even drive his own car.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070621]So Trump was not "too much" of anything, just the right amount of everything, but especially in his ability to lie better than those Dem nominees?
The presidential characteristic Trump possesses that Tiny seems eager to defend the most over and over again is his ability to con people into losing their money on his failed businesses and investment scams while brilliantly keeping as much of their sucker money as possible and then brilliantly having the American tax-payer bail him out for any millions and millions of losses he might have incurred along the way. That is what Trump brought to his first run for the presidency.
Of course, in his subsequent runs for the presidency Trump still possessed that admirable to Tiny and other MAGAs characteristic to his campaign but with the unprecedented addition of the Worst Record of Economic Results since the previous Repub potus Herbert Hoover combined with the Worst National Security Results re Trump's Pandemic as an elected official in USA history.
But, no matter, Tiny really admired Trump for those characteristic and attributes and saw them as much, much more important and viable characteristics and attributes for a President of the United States of America than anything Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris brought to the table from their private and public / elected official lives. Therefore, he was fine with doing absolutely nothing to put so much as a single vote for any one of them on the scorecard to annoy Trump.
Oh, and then there was that thingy where Trump led his violent mob of cop-attacking and killing insurrectionists into bloody battle on American Soil to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate a few duly-elected officials along the way including his own Vice President. But that apparently also doesn't compare to the "too much" of whatever his Dem opponents had demonstrated over their many years of public service for at least a minimal plurality of the American electorate.
Personally, I didn't see anything in the private or public services lives of, say, Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris that was even remotely "too" anything to have justified what anyone paying attention could have predicted and indeed did come true about 2 of the Worst Presidents of All Time that squeaked out the razor-thin election wins or Repub MAGA Majority Supreme Court appointment as president vs those Dem candidates.
But, hey, different strokes you know.[/QUOTE]Actually Tooms, Trump's business practices were the reason I would NOT vote for him, in 2016 or subsequently. I merely pointed out that some voters, including several friends, thought Trump's "take no prisoners" philosophy in business would translate well to the roll of Leader of the Free World.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3070590]I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
He's breaking it down, he's not the same.
I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
Aah spin. That intrinsic feature that electrons possess which no one really understands. But no electron spins like Elvis spins. After all, who could spin a total defeat and humiliation into a win?! Yep, according to Elvis, our lord and saviour may have actually intended this all because he wanted to reduce American reliance on ME oil. Elvis, your talents are wasted. Please apply for Karoline Levett's job.
I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote aside from your ascribing such great vision to your lord and master. If things weren't bad enough, now we hear talk of a $350 billion payment to Iran as a sweetener for them to the deal. I mean calling this a car crash is being charitable, and yet you still want to spin this into something other than Drumpf being a total idiot.
As for Israel being diminished, I don't agree, given that it owns 95% of the senate via AIPAC (which says a lot about American corruption) and that Larry Ellison's just bought Paramount and has made it clear that any negative comments on Israel will be suppressed, and that. Well whatever, do you really think that Israel is going to take America off its chain?[/QUOTE]Agree or disagree with Elvis, his posts are often thought provoking.
I don't think Zionist Jews in the USA are the main problem. Rather it's the fundamentalist Christians who believe God has blessed the Jewish people, and so the USA must always take their side. Some believe we're in the end times. Actually the fundamentalists' views are similar to some of the IRGC zealots, who also believe we're in the end times. The difference apparently is that the Iranians believe the Mahdi will soon return with Jesus at his side to destroy the Great Satan (USA) and Israel. And the fundamentalists believe Jesus is returning soon to destroy the Muslims.
Trump got taken in by Netanyahu. I think he realizes that now.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070523]Name a Dem nominee or president who was as much of a fuckup in their private and / or public life before getting nominated as Donald Trump was fully and totally known to be before being the Repub nominee in 2016, 2020 and 2024.
Nobody in America had as fucked up a record in business OR as an elected official as Donald Trump has well and truly earned.
[/QUOTE]You need to quit giving me layups. How about James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson, George McClellan, and Horario Seymour? Trump had no record in public office before 2016, but anyone with a brain would have known those guys were going to fuck up.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070500]LOL. Was there any scenario that you dumb Dems were going to post anything other than this? You have been screaming Iran won before anything happened. Now you are posting nothing has changed which tells me you suffer from TDS and have your head completely up your ass because to you, this war was only about Trump.
Since the 1970's, American military has been held hostage to the notion that the SOH could be closed and the economy and our way of life would be threatened, and we had to spend bigly to not have that outcome. Well, it was closed and although there was a short term blip in the price of oil, the world did not come to an end. Even before the war ended, the futures market was predicting $50 oil five years from now. Hell, the market was so tame that there were those who swore the market was being manipulated. So here is a news flash: the great horror that the SOH could be closed is nothing now, and we can get the fuck out of the region. That is huge!
Second, Iran attacked its neighbors and regretted it. Oh, they had been doing it for years. It just was not covered much in the media. Iran was slamming drones into Saudi refineries years before and lying about it. A finance guy was detailing how so much money that was flowing to Dubai is now headed to Hong Kong and Singapore. Now gulf states like the UAE and Qatar are going to have design ways around the Iran problem if they want money flowing back into them, and they have incentive to do so. Are you going to fly Air Emirates into Dubai now? I won't at least not for a while. I would be looking at Oman or Turkey over UAE, Qatar, and Saudi airlines. Iran even admitted regretting hitting their neighbors which long term probably does more damage to them that any bomb we dropped could have.
Third, Israel and the Jewish lobby's clout is now the lowest in my lifetime and thank God for that. I have heard about how Israel is America's only stable friend in the Middle East for decades. Well, with friends like them, who needs enemies? Many of those poor Jewish people, the peace lovers who had endured the Holocaust, have had their blood lust exposed. Israel is not stable, and I am tired of the Zionists claiming they would be so peace loving if not for how terrible the Arabs are. Europe puts aside its differences and has been living in peace. It is Israel's turn. The bloom is off the rose. Israel is no longer the good guys. Like is so often the case, the Arabs and Jews are both in the wrong and need to work to fix things versus just pointing fingers. Maybe that will happen now that most Americans see Israel for what it is.
Speaking of which, the political slobbering over Israel and Jews on the part of some politicans has been exposed. When Ted Cruz said to Tucker Carlson that he wanted to be the most pro-Israel senator in the USA senate, I was shocked. Our governor banned anti-zionist signs as hate speech, a luxury he afforded to no other minority group. The record of these two in particular with regards to Israel and Jews are going to be exposed, and my question will be, who are you putting first, Texas or Israel? If it is the latter, you are not getting my vote.
And similarly, the pro-war part of the Republican party along with the neocons are done controlling the party. Of all the movements of the MAGA campaign, the one that was the most hated and hardest to kill were the forever wars like in Afghanistan and Iraq. Russia is mired in one of its own, and we thought we would be joining them. Yeah, that is over. Trump gave the neocons and hard line Jews what they wanted and it was a disaster. These groups who were itching for so war so badly could not define what a victory was and everyone knows that now. Was this really about an Iran threat or just having defense firms be shoveled billions once again and satisfying Israel's blood lust?
And a corollary to that is the American military looked pathetic. Using million dollar missiles to shoot down $5000 drones? Lying about a F-15 being shot down? Having to keep our ships far away from Iranian shores? The American military has gotten fat and lazy with their forever wars. I have heard ad nauseam about how powerful they are, and their arrogance prevented them from learning what was going to in Ukraine. They were held at bay by a third rate power, and that was a lesson that needed to be learned. In fact, the changes in how the USA fights future wars because of the failures in this little skirmish may prevent our asses from getting kicked in the next conflict.
And the last and possibly most important changes are shifts in the energy world. We will see production move away from the unstable Middle East / Asian countries to the Americas. With enough investment, Venezuela can replace all the oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf. If the PM in Canada actually follows through with the needed pipelines, China will be buying sizeable amounts of Canadian crude. USA production will continue higher and other nations like Argentina and Brazil will add to the demand. Argentina has a field called Vaca Muerta that has the potential to be another Permian Basin. Offshore oil in Brazil and Guyana have billions in proven reserves.
As for the last energy change, that is not as much related to the war but gasoline cars with ICE are on their way out, and we are not going to need as much oil. ICE cars have thousands of moving parts compared to 20 in an EV. EVs require no oil change and much less maintenance. In the nations where there were fuel shortages, the trend towards EVs has been accelerated.
I went out shopping for cars in Mexico. The BYD SUV PHEV or plug in hybrid cost $40,000 and was nicer than a Cadillac Escalade at triple the price. I was with women swooning over the vehicle. Then came the Geely E5. Fuck me. The women dumped the BYD SUV as fast as a guy with herpes and were swooning over this even better looking car. Top of the line leather seats, sound that you have in a movie theater, voice control everything. I pried my women away from the car and said we had to check out Tesla with their FSD (full service driving) feature. The Geely has FSD in China but not in Mexico.
The FSD on the Tesla was incredible and both women felt way more comfortable in control of that vehicle and that is what we are going with, but it is notwhere close to the luxury of the cheaper Chinse vehicles. It is just a matter of time before China bring FSD to the rest of the world or Tesla does plug in hybrids. Sure, 90% of the driving I do would be covered by Teslas but the Geely has 600 miles of range and some PHEVs are up to 1500 miles. Why would I not want to have both range and cheap fuel?
The Republican notion that we need to rewire everything was bullshit. You just plug in EVs when usage is lowest. Spidy has done zilch to convince me that this flurry of windmills and solar panels are a good thing for grids, but if you want to have them for yourself and give the Middle East petronations the bird, you can do so.
Musk has also been accelerating the demise of the diesel truck with electric trucks with FSD. I have been shocked at how many are already on the road.
So yeah, this war acclerated the demise of the importance of the Middle East and the crude that flows from there big time. Those who say things are the same have terminal TDS. Whether you want to give Trump credit for that or say it was just dumb luck is up for opinion, but this war has changed a lot.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed reading that, all the way through the EV's. That's an interesting slant on Trump's travails in Iran. I think he made a mistake getting out of Obama's JCPOA. You're right though, in the end he didn't get us into a forever war, like George W Bush and Kennedy / Johnson. The loss of American life was minimal. The cost, $100 billion, was peanuts in a sea of wasteful government spending.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070629]Trump saved Venezuela and now the people there are finally prospering. Only president in history to finally get peace in the Middle East. Finally putting an end to Iran nuclear ambitions after 47 year war with Iran. If you don't think ending the Iran sponsor of terrorists is good for the world then you obviously are supporting the terrorists.[/QUOTE]You really believe what You write here? When so blind, when nothing changed in Iran, nothing, just a failure for USA which just made messe in economics and inflation. Trump wants to stop war he made because of big inflation and mid terms coming, when he lost this war, but hope not for mid terms, when more than 60% Americans are against his politics. Real figures and 4,2% inflation in USA now. You should think: Am I in majority or minority? When You live in US society.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070637]He's definitely got a lot more energy than Biden did at the same age. Did you see Tooms' video of Biden with Leno? Poor Joe couldn't even drive his own car.[/QUOTE]I would worry a lot if I was on same road than Trump driving, when falling asleep everywhere, even in very noisy Madison.
[QUOTE=Canada;3070625]Trump works 20 hours a day. Unlike the lazy democrats, socialists and French. He is allowed to nap once in awhile. Just beside you have a miserable life in France don't try to run down our great life in USA. Millions of tourists are coming into USA this week and they are loving America. Only the French and the democrats hate America. Keep your ssd life to yourself.[/QUOTE]I don't plan to come to live in USA, I m not like retired Americans who come to live in France for our free healthcare and I much prefer to live in so beautiful France with great way of life, much more culture and better foods, prettier women. Worldcup in USA is a mistake for who likes this football, degrading this game, when You know this game I started to play when I was 7 , when too big lack of knowledge in USA. Not once, but falling asleep almost every day, when he is too old and sick fat. I hope he won t sleep today, to understand what is France culture if he is able, when his megalomania will never compete with beauties of France. He seems so proud to be invited in Versailles castle, but not a king.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070637]He's definitely got a lot more energy than Biden did at the same age. Did you see Tooms' video of Biden with Leno? Poor Joe couldn't even drive his own car.[/QUOTE]Anybody who did watch that video rather than pulling stuff put of his ass about Biden saw that Joe Biden did indeed drive his own car at the end of the episode.
Poor Tiny. Couldn't even watch a 28 minute video without lying about Joe Biden. An Ultra MAGA Trumpster for sure.
Trump would not have known there is such a thing as a stick shift manual transmission, how to drive such a car, which country manufactured that Corvette or which auto manufacturer built it.
The only numbers Trump would have come up with for the questions and topics Leno brought up would be utterly unrelated lies about how many millions more votes he got in 2020 than Biden and how many "hundreds of thousands" of American soldiers died in the Vietnam War.
Yes, that is how disconnected from reality Trump is compared to Biden. Even today.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070642]You need to quit giving me layups. How about James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson, George McClellan, and Horario Seymour? Trump had no record in public office before 2016, but anyone with a brain would have known those guys were going to fuck up.[/QUOTE]I don't recall any of them leaving office with 3 million fewer jobs in the economy than when they started, adding Trillions to the deficit with zero to show for it and starting a counterproductive quagmire War of Choice in the Middle East based on their own lie.
Was any of them in debt for more $400 Million on day one of their presidency and then immediately launched into a Political Favors For Billions in Bribes factory administration?
You do know that Trump still ranks below each and every one of those presidents, nevermind the nominees, as dead last by non partisan and bipartisan historians, right?
[B]Historians rank Trump worst president in history, Lincoln the best[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/historians-rank-trump-worst-president-155354643.html[/URL]
That was before he was the nominee in 2024.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070641]Agree or disagree with Elvis, his posts are often thought provoking.
I don't think Zionist Jews in the USA are the main problem. Rather it's the fundamentalist Christians who believe God has blessed the Jewish people, and so the USA must always take their side. Some believe we're in the end times. Actually the fundamentalists' views are similar to some of the IRGC zealots, who also believe we're in the end times. The difference apparently is that the Iranians believe the Mahdi will soon return with Jesus at his side to destroy the Great Satan (USA) and Israel. And the fundamentalists believe Jesus is returning soon to destroy the Muslims.
Trump got taken in by Netanyahu. I think he realizes that now.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right Tiny, Christian fundamentalists are as big or, arguably, even bigger an issue than zionists. After all, 60% of jews look unfavourably on Israel's actions- the other 40% who do however favour Israel in conjunction with right wingers, neo cons, and general racists, are having serious detrimental influence on American foreign policy and it's only right that it should be questioned and raised. It's very interesting that in the US a lot of those who were deemed far right are now cynical about Israel, whereas the right wing remains highly favourable towards Israel; in the UK and Europe the far right however and the right remain looking very favourably towards Israel, see the marches by far right activist Tommy Robinson where there are many Israel flags.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070643]I enjoyed reading that, all the way through the EV's. That's an interesting slant on Trump's travails in Iran. I think he made a mistake getting out of Obama's JCPOA. You're right though, in the end he didn't get us into a forever war, like George W Bush and Kennedy / Johnson. The loss of American life was minimal. The cost, $100 billion, was peanuts in a sea of wasteful government spending.[/QUOTE]Which war did Kennedy / Johnson get America into?
Trump can't get most numbers right but the only number regarding Eisenhower's Vietnam War is when he repeatedly reminds us it "lasted 19 years." Which for Trump is close enough to call it correct according to all credible historians that we ought to give it to him.
And which also puts the start of Eisenhower's Vietnam War and America's full and total commitment to fighting it by word, deed and Treaty after Eisenhower replaced the retreating French military with our own at several years before Kennedy ran for President.
Have you got a different calender for the start of the Vietnam War, Eisenhower replacing the retreating French military with our own, him signing on to the SEATO military commitment to that War and the election of Kennedy as President that contradicts every credible historian and history book timeline for that War?
If so, please cite the source, provide the link and quote the passage where a credible historian claims Kennedy / Johnson "got us into the Vietnam War."
Oh, BTW, I don't believe the younger, more virulently hardline anti-America Islamic Revolutionary Guard regime in Iran, the country of Lebanon or Netanyahu recognize the current ceasefire so Iran can shore up their military readiness as a "Peace Deal" or anything like the end of Trump's War in Iran.
Do you honestly believe those people are now forgiving and forgetting the thousands of Iranian adults and hundreds of Iranian children Trump mass murdered on a whim based on his lie and for no reason after they had been proven to be in full compliance of a much stricter anti nuke deal than anything Trump will ever negotiate?
What has already been leaked out about Trump's unconditional surrender to Iran, if it is the final word on it and probably on orders to him by the oil industry, is a total disaster for America going forward.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3070590]I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
He's breaking it down, he's not the same.
I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
Aah spin. That intrinsic feature that electrons possess which no one really understands. But no electron spins like Elvis spins. After all, who could spin a total defeat and humiliation into a win?! Yep, according to Elvis, our lord and saviour may have actually intended this all because he wanted to reduce American reliance on ME oil. Elvis, your talents are wasted. Please apply for Karoline Levett's job.
I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote aside from your ascribing such great vision to your lord and master. If things weren't bad enough, now we hear talk of a $350 billion payment to Iran as a sweetener for them to the deal. I mean calling this a car crash is being charitable, and yet you still want to spin this into something other than Drumpf being a total idiot.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=HotDog666;3070590]I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
He's breaking it down, he's not the same.
I know you're feeling him 'cause you like it like this.
Aah spin. That intrinsic feature that electrons possess which no one really understands. But no electron spins like Elvis spins. After all, who could spin a total defeat and humiliation into a win?! Yep, according to Elvis, our lord and saviour may have actually intended this all because he wanted to reduce American reliance on ME oil. Elvis, your talents are wasted. Please apply for Karoline Levett's job.[/QUOTE]LOL. You know that you have TDS when if anyone says anything even remotely positive about Trump, the TDS fools like yourself have at it. The dogma of dumb Dems like yourself is that Trump is scum, the absolute worst. He sucks as a businessman. The war was a complete failure. His supporters are stupid, and Kamala Harris would have been way better, oh and Biden, who could not walk or talk was way better too. Yeah, Biden was so fucking good he got yanked by the ballot.
Heaven forbid you pull your head out of your ass and realize that Kamala's whole campaign was basically, "I am not Trump" and got her ass kicked. Was that a wake up call for those of you with TDS? Hell no! Why admit to being stupid when you can claim you are so smart?
I give Trump a the- for his action with this war. He was right about the SOH being shut down not affecting things too much despite the rants of Dems. And the other thing is he knew he had a losing hand and folded. I admire a president who made a mistake and changes a course while you people with TDS make fun of him with the TACO moniker. Do you fools want this war to continue? That is why you people with TDS are so pathetic. You all have no vision. It is all whatever Trump is doing is wrong, and that is so lazy and pathetic.
But the mistakes were huge. He was totally suckered by Netanyahu. He thought Iran would be taken down as easily as Venezuela was. And when I said the performance of the American military was abysmal, that is on Trump as Commander and Chief. He is in charge of the military not the generals. Then there was the endless drivel of how we have won then we are going to bomb Iran back to the stone age and then we have a peace deal and then we do not. For a guy who wrote the Art of the Deal, he should know that you are not going to get a deal if the other side thinks you cannot keep your word. It seemed like the stock market got to the point of just not listening to him any longer.
But yeah to someone like yourself who thinks everything Trump does is a F including how he is as a businessman then yeah, I could see how you could say that I am spinning things. In your screwed up head, even one compliment with regards to Trump is spinning things. What cracks me up is how you TDS fools keep going on about Trump after you lost. There is not one second of self reflection that maybe you are in the wrong. No, in your mind, everyone who voted for Trump is an idiot.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070641]Agree or disagree with Elvis, his posts are often thought provoking.
I don't think Zionist Jews in the USA are the main problem. Rather it's the fundamentalist Christians who believe God has blessed the Jewish people, and so the USA must always take their side. Some believe we're in the end times. Actually the fundamentalists' views are similar to some of the IRGC zealots, who also believe we're in the end times. The difference apparently is that the Iranians believe the Mahdi will soon return with Jesus at his side to destroy the Great Satan (USA) and Israel. And the fundamentalists believe Jesus is returning soon to destroy the Muslims.
Trump got taken in by Netanyahu. I think he realizes that now.[/QUOTE]There is more than one problem in the USA and I think it was the Christian base in the Republican party more than any other subgroup that yelled the loudest against the war. Usually the wackiest political groups call for censorship and when the Fundamentalists were at their peak that is what they were doing. That the left has taken on censorship now shows that they are even whackier than the Christian fundamentalists. That the CFS fipped for Trump despite his being thriced married and a yankee to me showed new found flexibility that they had not exhibited before.
American pols have been slobbering over Israel almost since it was founded. It is a problem not the biggest problem our nation has but one of them. The nice thing is this war has shined a huge light o who pols are really working for. I know about that fundamentalist view of Jews as the chosen people and the resurrection of Jesus was a reason fundamentalist Christians signed on to W's second war in Iraq. Like with so many things these days, I first heard about the resurrection from a comedian and did a double take, "What? That is why the war is going to happen? Jesus makes his return?
For all Tooms and the dumb Dems and their bellyaching, there are huge limits on what a president can do. The one huge difference between Trump and the Dems was the Dems never met a war that they did not like, and Trump knows that most wars are losers. If the fundamentlists wanted a war for the resurrection of Jesus, they should have voted for someone other than Trump.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070653]You really believe what You write here? When so blind, when nothing changed in Iran, nothing, just a failure for USA which just made messe in economics and inflation. Trump wants to stop war he made because of big inflation and mid terms coming, when he lost this war, but hope not for mid terms, when more than 60% Americans are against his politics. Real figures and 4,2% inflation in USA now. You should think: Am I in majority or minority? When You live in US society.[/QUOTE]Why do you continue to lie about everything. You aren't fooling anybody just showing your true character. Why would anyone believe you about your life in France when you lie about everything else? Only a fool would believe one of your posts but I guess you think there are other fools here.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070655]I don't plan to come to live in USA, I m not like retired Americans who come to live in France for our free healthcare and I much prefer to live in so beautiful France with great way of life, much more culture and better foods, prettier women.[/QUOTE]You make a excellent point right here my man.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070655]IWorldcup in USA is a mistake for who likes this football, degrading this game, [/QUOTE]You are absolutely right about that. The only reason citizens of the Dis United States of America are interested in the WorldCup is it gives them a reason to put on their red white and blue cheerleading outfits and pick up their pom poms.
As for the current administration, midterms are coming. Term ends in 2 years.
[B]RESET![/B]
I am waiting for someone to come here explain why Trump surrendered to the Iranians. They get sanctions removed that were in place for years. They get to keep their missiles there are restrictions on enriching Uranium and 300 billion slush fund to "rebuild" from world community.
The Israelis are pissed. They are back to worse than square one. JD issued a threat to them earlier today. So much for Trump and Bibi coalition. Does this president ever learn?
[QUOTE=Canada;3070751]Why do you continue to lie about everything. You aren't fooling anybody just showing your true character. Why would anyone believe you about your life in France when you lie about everything else? Only a fool would believe one of your posts but I guess you think there are other fools here.[/QUOTE]For lies, I m not at all on Trump level. Didn't you see how he was so happy to be invited in our Versailles. FR? Nothing like Versailles in USA.
Sentence I discovered on this morning: God invented wars to make USA learning geography. So true, for Vietnam, Afghanistan and now again defeat in Iran, when Trump wants now to spend 300 billions to help mollahs still there. Really crazy guy.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070903]I am waiting for someone to come here explain why Trump surrendered to the Iranians. They get sanctions removed that were in place for years. They get to keep their missiles there are restrictions on enriching Uranium and 300 billion slush fund to "rebuild" from world community.
The Israelis are pissed. They are back to worse than square one. JD issued a threat to them earlier today. So much for Trump and Bibi coalition. Does this president ever learn?[/QUOTE]1. They haven't come here to explain because they're never wrong. They can't be. Not about Donald Taco. Impossible.
2. Unlike Taco, the Israelis are primarily concerned about the security of their country. This is the foundation, on which they build their relationship with any power in the world. Taco will find out that simple truth soon enough, regardless of any threats from any Dodo.
3. No. He doesn't. Learn. Ever.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070691]LOL. You know that you have TDS when if anyone says anything even remotely positive about Trump, the TDS fools like yourself have at it. The dogma of dumb Dems like yourself is that Trump is scum, the absolute worst. He sucks as a businessman. The war was a complete failure. His supporters are stupid, and Kamala Harris would have been way better, oh and Biden, who could not walk or talk was way better too. Yeah, Biden was so fucking good he got yanked by the ballot.
Heaven forbid you pull your head out of your ass and realize that Kamala's whole campaign was basically, "I am not Trump" and got her ass kicked. Was that a wake up call for those of you with TDS? Hell no! Why admit to being stupid when you can claim you are so smart?
I give Trump a the- for his action with this war. He was right about the SOH being shut down not affecting things too much despite the rants of Dems. And the other thing is he knew he had a losing hand and folded. I admire a president who made a mistake and changes a course while you people with TDS make fun of him with the TACO moniker. Do you fools want this war to continue? That is why you people with TDS are so pathetic. You all have no vision. It is all whatever Trump is doing is wrong, and that is so lazy and pathetic.
But the mistakes were huge..[/QUOTE]The dems will never get their head out of their ass. Trump may say dumb things and even do dumb things sometimes but he is winning on the majority of the issues. America is winning even with the dumbest democrats in congress fighting him on everything that makes sense to Americans. Biden open borders created most of the problems with healthcare, education and crime and it is not a quick fix. Democrats protecting gang members, rapists, murderers from prosecution and deportation is disgraceful. These dumb democrats can't even tell you what a woman is. Mind you to be fair most of these idiots have converted to socialism or communism so not sure you can call them dumb democrats.
Why is China's easily winning, against the USA MAGA fossil fueled race to power AI? Well, it might have something to do with the [I]"but, but, but...solar and wind won't power AI!"[/I] energy pundits.
While the MAGA "drill-baby-drill" fossil fuel zealots (Tiny 12 and Elvis 2008, befuddled as to why the USA Is world's biggest cumulative CO2/ GHG emitter in history), love to rave and rant about and say [I]"...but, but, but, solar and wind are intermittent"[/I], they fail to gasp that intermittency works just fine for China, as it ramps up, old school power / LDES battery storage with [B]67 GW of pumped-hydro[/B] and another proposed 100 GW by 2030. [URL]https://www.energyconnects.com/news/utilities/2026/april/china-s-state-grid-pledges-45-billion-for-pumped-hydro-in-2026/[/URL]
Yes, while lithium-ion, sodium-ion, rust and solid-state batteries grab most of the energy storage headlines, the old school, old-fashion pumped-hydro, often overlooked by fossil fuel pundits, is quietly killing the tired old intermittency argument. A China quietly declares [I]"...what intermittency problem?"[/I] and strips all the "problems with renewables", one-by-one.
Pumped-hydro, once predominately used extensively by nuclear, as its battery storage for excess power, are being built, at a silent but unprecedented rate in China, as part of their 14th and 15th 5-year plans, bridging the so called solar and wind intermittency and LDES gaps.
[B]P.S.:[/B] [I]BTW, for the fossil fuel zealots, here's a reminder of U.S. cumulative emissions: [b]Who's been polluting the longest?[/b] March 2026,[/I] [URL]https://education.cfr.org/learn/reading/who-releases-most-greenhouse-gases[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;3070973]The dems will never get their head out of their ass. Trump may say dumb things and even do dumb things sometimes but he is winning on the majority of the issues. America is winning even with the dumbest democrats in congress fighting him on everything that makes sense to Americans. Biden open borders created most of the problems with healthcare, education and crime and it is not a quick fix. Democrats protecting gang members, rapists, murderers from prosecution and deportation is disgraceful. These dumb democrats can't even tell you what a woman is. Mind you to be fair most of these idiots have converted to socialism or communism so not sure you can call them dumb democrats.[/QUOTE]I am not here to call Trump names. That's school ground stuff. The "deal" he made the other day with Iran was very bad and admitted nonsensical. When Obama released the 1. 7 billion dollars of Iran's money over 10 years ago the republicans were bleating for weeks if not months.
We have a president in office with no focus and much less in common sense. All of this stuff with a UFC fight at the White House, the ballroom and reflecting pool, then the 250 dollar bill fiasco. It's no wonder why we get results like we did this week.
I can't find one republican on Capital Hill or any other place who agrees with how Trump sold us out this week. It's getting kind of old listening to folks defending Trump's feelings or less than satisfactory job performance. Now we know why he had 6 bankruptcies. He's running America into the ground just like his businesses.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070903]I am waiting for someone to come here explain why Trump surrendered to the Iranians. They get sanctions removed that were in place for years. They get to keep their missiles there are restrictions on enriching Uranium and 300 billion slush fund to "rebuild" from world community.
The Israelis are pissed. They are back to worse than square one. JD issued a threat to them earlier today. So much for Trump and Bibi coalition. Does this president ever learn?[/QUOTE]He chickened out of the Iran war for the same reason Nixon chickened out of Vietnam and Biden chickened out of Afghanistan. Because they were Wisemen! Biden was senile, but a Wiseman none the less!
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?[/QUOTE]This shows how messed up the [I]Dis United States of America [/I] is at the moment. You cannot buy a plane to use for Air Force One from the company that is in your own country. No matter how you try to pass the blame of spin the message, bottom line is the [I]Dis United States of America[/I] cannot even build a plane for the President it's company.
Show why ultimately they are going lose the AI race to China. China has the power for AI. The [I]Dis United States of America[/I] does not. Why I pay no attention to politics.
[B]I vote with my money![/B]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070903]I am waiting for someone to come here explain why Trump surrendered to the Iranians. They get sanctions removed that were in place for years. They get to keep their missiles there are restrictions on enriching Uranium and 300 billion slush fund to "rebuild" from world community.
The Israelis are pissed. They are back to worse than square one. JD issued a threat to them earlier today. So much for Trump and Bibi coalition. Does this president ever learn?[/QUOTE]But some here dare to write he is great. After spending billions to lose a new war, with US soldiers dead and still mollahs there, and now giving 300 billions to mollahs to reopen Ormuz which was fully open before Trump start this war, and what he tells about Meloni. It, You really have a deeply crazy. But for ignorants who don't know French or Italian foods and drinks, compare to how becoming obese at only 10 yo, he may be their best, but not sure for Americans majority who pay for his tax and inflation.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3071002]I am not here to call Trump names. That's school ground stuff. The "deal" he made the other day with Iran was very bad and admitted nonsensical. When Obama released the 1. 7 billion dollars of Iran's money over 10 years ago the republicans were bleating for weeks if not months.
We have a president in office with no focus and much less in common sense. All of this stuff with a UFC fight at the White House, the ballroom and reflecting pool, then the 250 dollar bill fiasco. It's no wonder why we get results like we did this week.
I can't find one republican on Capital Hill or any other place who agrees with how Trump sold us out this week. It's getting kind of old listening to folks defending Trump's feelings or less than satisfactory job performance. Now we know why he had 6 bankruptcies. He's running America into the ground just like his businesses.[/QUOTE]On every level; domestic and foreign policy, the economy, the DOJ, the current quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice based on a Repub lie, new laws and regulations America had thought would not be needed because generally people of honor had occupied the White House and led the 2 Houses of Congress rather than America-hating criminals and hopeless pathological liars, the Titanic deficits, everything from top to bottom will have to be recovered by Dems and only Dems this time around. They'll just have to smile and nod at whatever typical lame brain numbskull input the hopefully utterly irrelevant Repub minority has to offer and then promptly ignore it and forge ahead to do the right thing instead as FDR, JFK / LBJ, Obama, Biden and, despite the deadbeat Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub majority at the time, Bill Clinton continued to do in his 2nd term to pull us out of the horrific mess Repubs made of everyhing.
It's going to be a long hard slog. But it must be done. And only Dems know what to do, know how to do it and will do it.
Oh well.
We tried.
I'll vote for anyone that will be willing to legalize prostitution here in the dis UnitedStates! Not just some small backwater counties in Nevada, I'm talking about the whole damn country. Let's legalize it like the way they did in Germany. Look at Germany and Austria now! Ever since they legalized prostitution, there's been no crime, the standards of living are incredibly high, basically no homelessness or unemployment. The cost of living is incredibly low in Germany and Austria, and with no speed limits on the autobahn, you can drive as fast as you need to the next FKK or laufhaus. It's heaven on earth. It's no Bangkok by any means, but it's as good as Europe is ever going to get. So why can't America legalize prostitution then you ask? It's cause we're just not allowed to have nice things here. FML.
He was right about the SOH being shut down not affecting things too much despite the rants of Dems.
Clearly someone or something dialed up the level of delusion to 11 with you, Elvis. I don't even know what to say to this.
Truly ridiculous level of mental contortions in your attempts to excuse your lord and master. On one hand you concede he's a sucker to go the war, on the other you claim it's no big deal, and then you claim he's smart to have exited from it. Exiting when you have been disgraced, embarrassed, humiliated and have no other option doesn't ameliorate the stupidity of the original decision. But then there's no reasoning with blind adherents like you. After all, you spin his TACO tariffs against China of 120%+ which he chickened out off almost immediately.
No, chickening out, causing havoc on the world and then shifting positions doesn't make you smart; it's a whole level of stupidity that only a zealous cult follower can fall for. The smart guy does'nt do stupid things in the first place. Why do you think multiple US presidents, including Biden who arguably was brain dead, didn't fall for the trap that Netanyahu set? Why did he make a chump ONLY out of trump despite trying to bring America into engaging war on Iran for decades? Because only Trump was stupid enough to fall for it; and now you're trying to fish for compliments- beyond pathetic dude.
And now the fool has picked a needless fight with Italy. America is alone, disliked, embarrassed and humiliated; every time the fool opens his mouth or does something, anything, he disgraces America. Yet cultish Chumps like you will try to find positivity where there is none whatsoever with this joker. Recite your learnings from "Trump: my glass is half full even when it's empty- Art of the deal part 2" in your next Maga meetings- I think it's pathetic.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070691]LOL. You know that you have TDS when if anyone says anything even remotely positive about Trump, the TDS fools like yourself have at it. The dogma of dumb Dems like yourself is that Trump is scum, the absolute worst. He sucks as a businessman. The war was a complete failure. His supporters are stupid, and Kamala Harris would have been way better, oh and Biden, who could not walk or talk was way better too. Yeah, Biden was so fucking good he got yanked by the ballot.
Heaven forbid you pull your head out of your ass and realize that Kamala's whole campaign was basically, "I am not Trump" and got her ass kicked. Was that a wake up call for those of you with TDS? Hell no! Why admit to being stupid when you can claim you are so smart?
I give Trump a the- for his action with this war. He was right about the SOH being shut down not affecting things too much despite the rants of Dems. And the other thing is he knew he had a losing hand and folded. I admire a president who made a mistake and changes a course while you people with TDS make fun of him with the TACO moniker. Do you fools want this war to continue? That is why you people with TDS are so pathetic. You all have no vision..[/QUOTE]
As those of us who like to get the facts right have reviewed the recent 28 minute video of Joe Biden engaging, interacting and conversing with Jay Leno in one of Leno's episodic car discussion programs where it is abundantly clear that Joe Biden to this day exhibits no sign of dementia, no sign of being "brain dead", no sign of not knowing who he is, where he is, what he's doing or any of the other revisionist history horseshit Wingers have been slinging around for years, there are a couple of Fun Facts about Biden's rank as the 14th Best President in USA History that few if any media pundits will ever mention:
[B]Watch Joe Biden behaving normally, intelligently, well-informed, cognitively capable and more fit to serve as President of the United States of America this very day than Trump or any other Repub MAGA has ever behaved in their lives:[/B]
[URL]https://youtu.be/J1d3vDNmgDg?is=dF7Kh3MknwlYCFoE[/URL]
[B]We know how voters feel about Trump and Biden. But how do the experts rank their presidencies?[/B]
[URL]https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-18/trump-biden-presidents-day-ranking-poll-election-2024[/URL]
(See screenshots below).
The Fun Facts? There is only one Repub president who ranks marginally higher than Joe Biden as judged by those USA historians who served as president within the past 100 years. Just one. And the voters who might have voted for that Repub president of the past 100 years who ranks marginally higher than Joe Biden on those historians' considered and well-researched rankings of The Best Presidents in USA History would today be well into their 90's and up.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3071177]I'll vote for anyone that will be willing to legalize prostitution here in the dis UnitedStates! Not just some small backwater counties in Nevada, I'm talking about the whole damn country. Let's legalize it like the way they did in Germany. Look at Germany and Austria now! Ever since they legalized prostitution, there's been no crime, the standards of living are incredibly high, basically no homelessness or unemployment. The cost of living is incredibly low in Germany and Austria, and with no speed limits on the autobahn, you can drive as fast as you need to the next FKK or laufhaus. It's heaven on earth. It's no Bangkok by any means, but it's as good as Europe is ever going to get. So why can't America legalize prostitution then you ask? It's cause we're just not allowed to have nice things here. FML.[/QUOTE]Vote for the Libertarians on the ballot. Most favor legalized prostitution.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3071121]On every level; domestic and foreign policy, the economy, the DOJ, the current quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice based on a Repub lie, new laws and regulations America had thought would not be needed because generally people of honor had occupied the White House and led the 2 Houses of Congress rather than America-hating criminals and hopeless pathological liars, the Titanic deficits, everything from top to bottom will have to be recovered by Dems and only Dems this time around. They'll just have to smile and nod at whatever typical lame brain numbskull input the hopefully utterly irrelevant Repub minority has to offer and then promptly ignore it and forge ahead to do the right thing instead as FDR, JFK / LBJ, Obama, Biden and, despite the deadbeat Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub majority at the time, Bill Clinton continued to do in his 2nd term to pull us out of the horrific mess Repubs made of everyhing.
It's going to be a long hard slog. But it must be done. And only Dems know what to do, know how to do it and will do it.
Oh well.
We tried.[/QUOTE]Hey Tooms, Would you favor one party rule in the USA if the Democratic Party were the one party? Like the PRI in Mexico for many years.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071266]Hey Tooms, Would you favor one party rule in the USA if the Democratic Party were the one party? Like the PRI in Mexico for many years.[/QUOTE]Actually what the [I]Dis United States of America[/I] needs is more than two parties.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071193]Clearly someone or something dialed up the level of delusion to 11 with you, Elvis. I don't even know what to say to this.
Truly ridiculous level of mental contortions in your attempts to excuse your lord and master. On one hand you concede he's a sucker to go the war, on the other you claim it's no big deal[/QUOTE]No big deal? You must have missed this part.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070691]But the mistakes were huge. He was totally suckered by Netanyahu. He thought Iran would be taken down as easily as Venezuela was. And when I said the performance of the American military was abysmal, that is on Trump as Commander and Chief. He is in charge of the military not the generals. Then there was the endless drivel of how we have won then we are going to bomb Iran back to the stone age and then we have a peace deal and then we do not. For a guy who wrote the Art of the Deal, he should know that you are not going to get a deal if the other side thinks you cannot keep your word. It seemed like the stock market got to the point of just not listening to him any longer.[/QUOTE]It got auto corrected but I graded him at a DD (should be only one Dee) MINUS for his grade on the war with Iran. The only things saving from getting a F was his being right on shutting the SOH was not the apocalyptical event others predicted and more importantly, he corrected his horrific mistake.
It take someone with TDS to somehow think that is a positive grade.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070691]The smart guy does'nt do stupid things in the first place.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. Yeah, if only Trump were as perfect as you. To rewind things, Tooms was blabbing on and on about how Arab Americans cost Dems the White House, and the reason the Arab Americans did not turn out is because of Biden's policies on Gaza and Israel. Do you have one American pol who HAS been astute about how to handle Israel and the Middle East since you have the perfect solution?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3070691]America is alone, disliked, embarrassed and humiliated; every time the fool opens his mouth or does something, anything, he disgraces America.[/QUOTE]Well, America isn't just Trump, and so many people from around the world who have came to the World Cup have learned just that. If you did not have such TDS, you would see that his plan on Venezuela was brilliant and well-executed, and I think the people of Cuba will benefit from Trump playing hard ball with the Cuban leadership.
I think Trump's plan on tariffs was actually the right idea but instead of implementing them the legally correct way and going through Congress, he signed executive orders and acted in an incredibly impulsive way when doling out said tariffs. So I give him an A on the idea and a F on execution.
It has been pretty amazing to see how many people have come to the USA with the wrong idea having believed all the negative media bullshit and seen how great our country is.
At the end of the day, you really only have two choices as a voter (sorry Tiny) and I do not regret voting Trump over Harris at all. That the dumb Dems keep calling people like me stupid versus realizing that they need to get better candidates reinforces my decision even more.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071266]Hey Tooms, Would you favor one party rule in the USA if the Democratic Party were the one party? Like the PRI in Mexico for many years.[/QUOTE]I favor One Party Rule in the USA like the way it was when the Dems controlled the White House and the Majority in both Houses of Congress under FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden. And along the way we still got all of the Separation of Powers the Founders envisioned would be beneficial to a democratic republic.
One Party Rule in the USA like the way it was under Repubs for a decade leading up to the end of Hoover's presidency, under GW Bush and Trump is obviously a disaster for the USA. It has literally been an existential disaster for the country every time.
That's why it is so dangerous for bothsider / neithersiders to even casually flirt with the total destruction of the USA economy and American democracy by insinuating and voting in such a way that allows so much as a single Repub to slither into a position of power on any of those fronts because just that one Repub or Repub pretending to be an "Independent" can and will infect the system with an America-hating cancer that might soon enough cause a razor-thin election outcome that once again puts a Repub in the White House and hand them the Majority in both Houses of Congress. Clearly, America can't afford to take such a foolish risk.
It is certainly too great a risk to take for patriotic Americans who want the best for America, the vast majority of the American people and to avoid the Worst at all cost.
War can't stop with Netanyahou war business with tsahal.
Just when I was about to say you're more balanced than I thought, you had to just blurt this out:
"I think Trump's plan on tariffs was actually the right idea but instead of implementing them the legally correct way and going through Congress, he signed executive orders and acted in an incredibly impulsive way when doling out said tariffs. So I give him an A on the idea and a F on execution."
The tariffs were probably the 2nd or 3rd most stupid things this moron leader of yours did. Ostensibly they were to "reduce the American debt". How's that working out? Be honest Elvis, they are a mechanism for making the average joe fund the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. You accuse me of TDS, but you're suffering from TMS- Trump Messiah Syndrome, seeking to find logic in the dumbest of moves. He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.
I agree though that Kamala Harris was a daft choice and that's on Biden. As for the ME, no in honesty I can't excuse or justify the conduct of most of his predecessors but the one thing you can say is he's upped the volume to 11 on everything. It's on his watch that Israel has conducted itself with such impunity that it's now victimizing and brutalising the Palestinian christians. Still there is a silver lining to everything, and America is finally opening up to seeing what Israel is and has been doing. This is consequential of Trump's callousness but of course does not mean he deserves any credit for changing the American mindset.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3071299]No big deal? You must have missed this part.
It got auto corrected but I graded him at a DD (should be only one Dee) MINUS for his grade on the war with Iran. The only things saving from getting a F was his being right on shutting the SOH was not the apocalyptical event others predicted and more importantly, he corrected his horrific mistake.
It take someone with TDS to somehow think that is a positive grade.
Oh brother. Yeah, if only Trump were as perfect as you. To rewind things, Tooms was blabbing on and on about how Arab Americans cost Dems the White House, and the reason the Arab Americans did not turn out is because of Biden's policies on Gaza and Israel. Do you have one American pol who HAS been astute about how to handle Israel and the Middle East since you have the perfect solution?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3071282]Actually what the [I]Dis United States of America[/I] needs is more than two parties.[/QUOTE]Not a bad idea IMHO. Also, how about doing away with primaries? Instead have a general election with ranked choice voting. Anyone who gets enough signatures on a nominating petition can run, regardless of party.
I'll one up you. How about doing away with parties altogether? George Washington strongly favored avoiding them. Two of his main reasons were that they would divide the country into hostile factions and encourage loyalty to party over loyalty to the nation. And he was right!
Thomas Jefferson was the founder of the predecessor to the modern Democratic Party. John Adams and Alexander Hamilton founded the opposing Federalist Party. All were involved in Washington's administration, Jefferson as Secretary of State. He resigned in a tizzy because he wasn't getting his way. Notably he wanted to involve the USA on the side of France in its war with Britain. Ironically, later in his inaugural address as President, Jefferson emphasized the wisdom of avoiding foreign entanglements, much more articulately than Washington ever did.
Originally the President was the person who got the most votes in the general election, and the Vice President the second most. When John Adams was elected president in 1796, Jefferson was runner up. He couldn't get along with Adams, and spent most of the next four years at his home, Monticello. This was the beginning of the end for American bipartisanship.
What Jefferson did do during those four years at Monticello was spend considerable time banging Sally Hemings. Sally was a mixed-race slave who bore six of Jefferson's children. Jefferson's Will did not provide for Sally's freedom upon his death. His estate would have sold her along with most of the other slaves on Jefferson's estate to settle his considerable debts. Fortunately, Jefferson's daughter intervened on behalf of Hemmings.
This is all from a great series currently on Netflix. Highly recommended.
I shall return to this topic in the near future, to provide Tooms with further details of the sordid pasts of the founding fathers (Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Andrew Jackson) of his beloved Democratic Party.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3071299]
At the end of the day, you really only have two choices as a voter (sorry Tiny) and I do not regret voting Trump over Harris at all. That the dumb Dems keep calling people like me stupid versus realizing that they need to get better candidates reinforces my decision even more.[/QUOTE]No Elvis, you have lots of choices! I'll be writing your name, Elvis 2008, in on the ballot for the upcoming Talarico / Paxton contest. And if the main parties can't come up with better candidates for president than last time, I'll vote for the Libertarian unless he / she is a dumb ass. In that event I'll write in Amy the wonder dog.
I suspect you and Hot Dog agree on more than you think.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071434]Not a bad idea IMHO. Also, how about doing away with primaries? Instead have a general election with ranked choice voting. Anyone who gets enough signatures on a nominating petition can run, regardless of party.
I'll one up you. [b]How about doing away with parties altogether[/b]? George Washington strongly favored avoiding them. Two of his main reasons were that they would divide the country into hostile factions and encourage loyalty to party over loyalty to the nation. And he was right![/QUOTE]Agreed!
I will go another step and say there should be term limits for each Federal office. 12 years total. 3 terms for President; 2 for the Senate; 6 for the house. No pensions after office except for President. Payment for each federal office should be 1 million dollars a year. But there should be no other benefits. They rent office space from the Dis United States of America or pay for their own. No trips on private jets. No junkets. All finances placed in a blind trust during the period of time you hold office.
[B]They are suppose to be public servants after all![/B]
Oklahoma is a Republican State where 1 in 7 people live in poverty.
This is the Republican answer to social problems. Let them fend for themselves. Most of the people claiming the Republican party posting in this thread are hypocrites and racists. But that the core of the Republican Party that I have known for as long as I have been alive.
If the red elephants want to impress me, they can start by showing me how since 2004 the Republican party has improved Oklahoma.
[QUOTE]Oklahoma faces significant social challenges, including a 16.9% poverty rate (the sixth highest in the U.S.), chronic underfunding of public education (ranking 49th in per-pupil spending), and severe food insecurity (leading the nation).[/QUOTE][B]Time to put in some work![/B]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=990RXnk8X-U[/URL]
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071422]Just when I was about to say you're more balanced than I thought, you had to just blurt this out:
"I think Trump's plan on tariffs was actually the right idea but instead of implementing them the legally correct way and going through Congress, he signed executive orders and acted in an incredibly impulsive way when doling out said tariffs. So I give him an A on the idea and a F on execution."
The tariffs were probably the 2nd or 3rd most stupid things this moron leader of yours did. Ostensibly they were to "reduce the American debt". How's that working out? Be honest Elvis, they are a mechanism for making the average joe fund the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. You accuse me of TDS, but you're suffering from TMS- Trump Messiah Syndrome, seeking to find logic in the dumbest of moves. He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.
I agree though that Kamala Harris was a daft choice and that's on Biden. As for the ME, no in honesty I can't excuse or justify the conduct of most of his predecessors but the one thing you can say is he's upped the volume to 11 on everything. It's on his watch that Israel has conducted itself with such impunity that it's now victimizing and brutalising the Palestinian christians. Still there is a silver lining to everything, and America is finally opening up to seeing what Israel is and has been doing. This is consequential of Trump's callousness but of course does not mean he deserves any credit for changing the American mindset.[/QUOTE]Trump absolutely did not implement the tariffs to make "the average Joe fund tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. " He was just ignorant. He's been strongly pro-tariff since at least 1987, and believes tariffs improve the lives of everyday Americans. Largely what he ended up doing instead in his first term was drive up prices on everyday Americans. When faced with tariffs on clothing, toys, cheap electronics and the like, importers increased prices. And the Chinese built factories in places like Vietnam, and raised prices to pay for the capex and the inefficiencies of their new manufacturing hubs. The overall effect on American jobs, wages, GDP and purchasing power was negative.
So did Biden remove the tariffs? For the most part, no he did not.
In his second term Trump got wilder. China wasn't necessarily the target. He tariffed everybody. He changed the tariffs and the rules frequently, making business planning difficult.
Don't get me wrong, tariffs can be useful in promoting national security and the national interest. For example, Trump and Biden and Obama should have had policies in place, including tariffs, to promote mining and processing and manufacturing of rare earth elements and magnets and the like in the USA and friendly countries, which are essential to defense and industry. Trump IMO was extremely unwise for entering into a trade war with China without having this base covered.
Otherwise tariffs tend to promote crony capitalism. Many countries impose them to help privileged elites, who can raise prices sky high when protected against foreign competition. Again though, I don't believe Trump realizes this.
So, back to your point about revenue raising. Yes, tariffs effectively are regressive taxes. However, if you believe the highest end of mankind is to raise revenues for all encompassing government, you're not going to be able to milk the rich for much more than the USA already is. The maximum tax rate (federal + state + local) on ordinary income is 40.8% to 54% and on long term capital gains 23.8% to 39%, depending on location. That's close to Western European levels. Total tax rates (income tax + sales tax + property tax) on middle income Americans are much lower than European levels. You can't raise anywhere close to what Progressives like AOC and Bernie Sanders want by upping taxes on the wealthy. They just don't have the money. And you end up with self-defeating policies, that lower investment and incentives. If you want a European welfare state, you need to do what the Europeans do, impose a Value Added Tax, which is similar to a sales tax. A VAT, like tariffs, is regressive.
About your comments on Israel, I'd attribute the problem not to Trump's callousness, but rather to his impetuousness. There's a book being released today, Regime Change, by two New York Times reporters that says Rubio and the CIA both thought Netanyahu's plan to accomplish regime change in Iran was half baked. Unfortunately, Netanyahu had Trump's ear, and the rest is history.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3071462][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=990RXnk8X-U[/URL][/QUOTE]How many white male police officers have fucked up on the job? What do you categorize that?
[B] And the mother (profanity redacted) Democratic Politicians who want to steal it from me can go (profanity redacted) themselves.*[/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3071455]Oklahoma is a Republican State where 1 in 7 people live in poverty.
This is the Republican answer to social problems. Let them fend for themselves. Most of the people claiming the Republican party posting in this thread are hypocrites and racists. But that the core of the Republican Party that I have known for as long as I have been alive.
If the red elephants want to impress me, they can start by showing me how since 2004 the Republican party has improved Oklahoma.
[B]Time to put in some work![/B][/QUOTE]Hi SubCmdr,
Esteemed board member Canada visited Oklahoma shortly before the Second Iran War and the price of gasoline was about $2. 20 a gallon. At that time most Californians paid north of $4. 00 a gallon.
The cost of living in Oklahoma City and Tulsa is a hell of a lot lower than San Francisco and LOS Angeles. Your figures do not take that into account.
You should be looking at the Census Bureau's Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM) which adjusts for price differences, taxes, government benefits, and out-of-pocket medical expenses. See Appendix 3 here, for averages for the % of the population living below the SPM in various states: [url] https://www2.census.gov/library/working-papers/2025/demo/sehsd-wp2025-14.pdf[/url]
California and Louisiana, both at 17.7%, lead the list. Oklahoma clocks in at 19th place at 11.6%.
Oklahoma's population is increasing. And California's is decreasing, albeit slowly. Why the hell is that? California has mountains, beaches, movie stars, and hot and cold running women. Oklahoma is an armpit. Still 11,600 more people left California for Oklahoma than vice versa in 2024 according to ChatGPT. California has tons of homeless people and Oklahoma has relatively few.
Open your eyes.
Whoever you quoted complained that Oklahoma chronically underfunded public education, ranking 49th in the nation. ChatGPT tells me it was actually the 4th lowest, spending $12,162 per pupil in 2024. California spent about $25,000, twice as much. What did it get for it? NAEP test scores that were equal to or only slightly higher than Oklahoma's. And this is from the state that gave us Stanford and Caltech.
I don't believe that Oklahoma leads the USA in food insecurity, whatever that is.
Do you think Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson and Thomas Sowell are racists? If the USA elects its first Hispanic president in the next decade, he'll probably be a Republican.
*Please note that I harbor no ill will towards Democratic voters, particularly fellow board members. It's the politicians I despise.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071551][b]Trump[/b] absolutely did not implement the tariffs to make "the average Joe fund tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. " He was just ignorant. He's been strongly pro-tariff since at least 1987, and [b]believes tariffs improve the lives of everyday Americans.[/b] Largely what he ended up doing instead in his first term was drive up prices on everyday Americans. When faced with tariffs on clothing, toys, cheap electronics and the like, importers increased prices. And the Chinese built factories in places like Vietnam, and raised prices to pay for the capex and the inefficiencies of their new manufacturing hubs. The overall effect on American jobs, wages, GDP and purchasing power was negative.
[B]So did Biden remove the tariffs? For the most part, no he did not.[/b]
In his second term Trump got wilder. China wasn't necessarily the target. He tariffed everybody. He changed the tariffs and the rules frequently, making business planning difficult.
Don't get me wrong, tariffs can be useful in promoting national security and the national interest. For example, Trump and Biden and Obama should have had policies in place, including tariffs, to promote mining and processing and manufacturing of rare earth elements and magnets and the like in the USA and friendly countries, which are essential to defense and industry. Trump IMO was extremely unwise for entering into a trade war with China without having this base covered.
[B]Otherwise tariffs tend to promote crony capitalism. Many countries impose them to help privileged elites, who can raise prices sky high when protected against foreign competition. Again though, I don't believe Trump realizes this.[/b].[/QUOTE]So poor ol' dumb but well-meaning Donald Trump and, for that matter, every other Repub president of the past 100 years, wants deep deep in his heart to improve the lives of the ordinary American working men and women but, darn it all, it keeps turning out that their policies and stewardship have instead produced every Great Depression, Great Recession, historic jobs destruction, skyrocketing unemployment rate and now Great Pandemic of the past 100 years and none of the great economic recoveries, great economic expansions or historic jobs creation.
And in the case of Donald Trump, also darn it all since he is so well-meaning deep deep in his heart and never intended such a thing since 1987, to make himself, his Crime Family and any cronies to whom he likely owed significant amounts of lost Trump Scams Investment money, massively wealthy to the tune of Billions by leveraging his threats to foreign countries and international corporations to impose otherwise blitheringly irrational Trump Tariffs in exchange for bribes and favors.
Wow. Just wow. Lolol.
BTW, the only thing worse than imposing Tariffs with little rhyme, reason or logic for imposing them in terms of tax revenue that would be far more effective if sourced from somewhere else is to whipsaw in and then back out of them unless they are so damaging to the domestic industries that removing them is imperative just to keep them afloat. By the time Biden mercifully was elected and took office many industries on which Trump had imposed ill-advised tariffs had already laid off the American working men and women they had to lay off in order to offset the damage done by Trump's Tariffs and had readjusted pricing all through the manufacturing, shipping and retail chain to accommodate them. TACO Trump is the whipsaw business models into paralysis King. Not Biden.
And, unlike Trump, incoming President Joe Biden, like every other incoming Dem following an outgoing Repub for the past 100 years, did not have the luxury of strolling in under stable and improving economic and national security conditions, start play golf, goin' fishing, clearin' brush down at the ranch, ride ponies and play more golf. Like every other incoming Dem following an outgoing Repub of the past 100 years, Joe had to hit the ground running to reverse the historic economic decline and crashing markets he was handed to reverse and recover the millions of ordinary American working men and women's jobs the outgoing Repub's policies and stewardship had just wiped out or had merely never created over the Repubs' 4 to 8 to 12 year stint in the White House.
Whipsawing American industries out of all of Trump's irrational, self-serving Trump Tariffs maneuvers was not as high a priority as making sure as many Americans had access to the vaccines Trump was still discouraging anyone from bothering to take, stimulating the economy, recovering American jobs and thereby revive the global supply-chains that Trump's well-meaning and deep deep hearted concern for the common man and woman decisions as far back as 2018 and 2019 had totally collapsed.
Congress ask Trump to stop his war in Iran, when he made messe and inflation for world economics. What about 300 billions USD? Trump wants to give to support mollahs who are still there, same than before war.
[QUOTE]Based on the most recent 2024 Census data, Oklahoma ranks as the 8th poorest state in the United States, with a poverty rate of 14.9%.*
*This represents an improvement from the 2023 ranking of 6th poorest (15.9%) and the 2022 ranking of 8th poorest (15.7%).*
Key details regarding Oklahoma's poverty status include:
Current Rate: The 2024 poverty rate is 14.9%, meaning more than 1 in 7 residents live in poverty.*
National Comparison: The national poverty rate in 2024 was 12.1%, placing Oklahoma significantly above the average.*
States with Higher Poverty: In 2024, the states with higher poverty rates were Louisiana (18.7%), Mississippi (17.8%), West Virginia (16.7%), New Mexico (16.4%), Kentucky (15.6%), Arkansas (15.5%), and Alabama (15.2%).*
Child Poverty: Oklahoma had the 9th highest child poverty rate in 2024, with 18.9% of children living at or below the federal poverty level.*
Demographic Disparities: Poverty is disproportionately higher among Black Oklahomans (22.8%), American Indians/Alaska Natives (19%), and Latino Oklahomans (18.3%) compared to white Oklahomans (12.9%).*
https://okpolicy.org/2024-census-data-oklahoma-ranks-as-8th-poorest-state/[/QUOTE][B]Not interested in your commentary Mr. Republican[/B] I don't think you personally are a racist or a hypocrite. If I did our interactions in the past would not have gone so well. Check my post again. You will have difficulty finding your name. But I do think the political party you are affiliated with is mostly racist and hypocrites. I am allowed my (compound profanity redacted) opinion even if Republicans want to silence me and take away my vote and voting power through political means drawing maps crazy. Even the former governor of California (one of the few Republicans that I respect) is against it.
You want to talk about the census. Love your spin on the numbers. For a party that does not like big government, you certainly do rely on data that comes out from it. So convoluted it makes absolutely no sense. There are no state ranks contained in that link you posted (yes I looked at it). Nothing you wrote invalidates the following statement:
[B]OK is poor and it is run by [u]Republicans[/u][/B]
When a Republican is confronted by facts. What does he do? Scream for Security. Then tells them: [I]shut that uppity (racial slur) up[/I]!
My data comes from the site below:
[URL]https://okpolicy.org/2024-census-data-oklahoma-ranks-as-8th-poorest-state/[/URL]
Somebody is lying to you brother. [I]ChatGPT[/I] perhaps?
[B]Inflation is theft[/B] Are Republicans doing anything about it?
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071621][b]Open your eyes.[/b][/QUOTE]In the land of Republicans the one eyed man is king. And they want to count me as 3/5 of a person again.
[B]The Defense Rests![/B]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071621][B] And the mother (profanity redacted) Democratic Politicians who want to steal it from me can go (profanity redacted) themselves.*[/B]
Hi SubCmdr,
Esteemed board member Canada visited Oklahoma shortly before the Second Iran War and the price of gasoline was about $2. 20 a gallon. At that time most Californians paid north of $4. 00 a gallon.
The cost of living in Oklahoma City and Tulsa is a hell of a lot lower than San Francisco and LOS Angeles. Your figures do not take that into account.
You should be looking at the Census Bureau's Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM) which adjusts for price differences, taxes, government benefits, and out-of-pocket medical expenses. See Appendix 3 here, for averages for the % of the population living below the SPM in various states: [url] https://www2.census.gov/library/working-papers/2025/demo/sehsd-wp2025-14.pdf[/url]
California and Louisiana, both at 17.7%, lead the list. Oklahoma clocks in at 19th place at 11.6%.
Oklahoma's population is increasing. And California's is decreasing, albeit slowly. Why the hell is that? California has mountains, beaches, movie stars, and hot and cold running women. Oklahoma is an armpit. Still 11,600 more people left California for Oklahoma than vice versa in 2024 according to ChatGPT. California has tons of homeless people and Oklahoma has relatively few.
Whoever you quoted complained that Oklahoma chronically underfunded public education, ranking 49th in the nation. ChatGPT tells me it was actually the 4th lowest, spending $12,162 per pupil in 2024. California spent about $25,000, twice as much. What did it get for it? NAEP test scores that were equal to or only slightly higher than Oklahoma's. And this is from the state that gave us Stanford and Caltech.
I don't believe that Oklahoma leads the USA in food insecurity, whatever that is.
Do you think Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson and Thomas Sowell are racists? If the USA elects its first Hispanic president in the next decade, he'll probably be a Republican.
*Please note that I harbor no ill will towards Democratic voters, particularly fellow board members. It's the politicians I despise.[/QUOTE]
Re Tariffs-there is precisely no economic rationale to tariffs- the average hick thinks that China or wherever are paying the tax and not him. This is the same stupid belief that Trump was under and if the "Reciprocal" term in his tariffs highlights his disingenuity as well as his ignorance. I'm a strong believer in Ricardian economics and this, not tariffs, should be the means of ameliorating any trade deficits.
On the matter of tax, interesting statistics you have there. How do ya like them cherries? The figures you should be focused on is the TOTAL tax as proportion of GDP, anything else is rotten cherries, my friend. And I've asked both Perplexity and Claude where the US lays here, and it's not where you claim.
Country.
Tax revenue as % of GDP.
France.
46%.
Italy.
43%.
Germany.
39%.
UK.
34%.
Canada.
33%.
Brazil.
33%.
Japan.
33%.
South Korea.
32%.
Argentina.
30%.
Australia.
30%.
United States.
28%.
South Africa.
27%.
Russia.
23%.
Türkiye.
21%.
China.
20%.
Mexico.
17%.
India.
12%.
Indonesia.
12%.
Saudi Arabia.
8%.
This is from Perplexity. Claude gives similar results. America is far from the European levels of tax. Besides, Tariffs as a means to reduce the tax burden is one of the dumbest ways of doing things. It's no wonder that they haven't worked.
Trump made a case that he was going to reduce the national debt via tariffs, and instead he reduced the tax on the wealthiest. Please don't give any excuses of how "he didn't really mean to". Either he's ignorant or he's incompetent. Either way it's not pretty is it?
On Israel, your excuses for him are ringing hollow. To let Israel commit the horrific crimes that it has against the Palestinians, to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, to have Huckabee as ambassador who has literally erased the Palestinians identity and who endorses lebansraum by Israel: ""would be fine if they took it all" referring to large chunks of the rest of the Middle East being taken by Israel, not just Palestine, to. I could go on. Callous is an understatement. "Impetuous" is a joke.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071551]Trump absolutely did not implement the tariffs to make "the average Joe fund tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. " He was just ignorant. He's been strongly pro-tariff since at least 1987, and believes tariffs improve the lives of everyday Americans. Largely what he ended up doing instead in his first term was drive up prices on everyday Americans. When faced with tariffs on clothing, toys, cheap electronics and the like, importers increased prices. And the Chinese built factories in places like Vietnam, and raised prices to pay for the capex and the inefficiencies of their new manufacturing hubs. The overall effect on American jobs, wages, GDP and purchasing power was negative.
So did Biden remove the tariffs? For the most part, no he did not.
In his second term Trump got wilder. China wasn't necessarily the target. He tariffed everybody. He changed the tariffs and the rules frequently, making business planning difficult.
Don't get me wrong, tariffs can be useful in promoting national security and the national interest. For example, Trump and Biden and Obama should have had policies in place, including tariffs, to promote mining and processing and manufacturing of rare earth elements and magnets and the like in the USA and friendly countries, which are essential to defense and industry. Trump IMO was extremely unwise for entering into a trade war with China without having this base covered.
Otherwise tariffs tend to promote crony capitalism. Many countries impose them to help privileged elites, who can raise prices sky high when protected against foreign competition. Again though, I don't believe Trump realizes this.
So, back to your point about revenue raising. Yes, tariffs effectively are regressive taxes. However, if you believe the highest end of mankind is to raise revenues for all encompassing government, you're not going to be able to milk the rich for much more than the USA already is. The maximum tax rate (federal + state + local) on ordinary income is 40.8% to 54% and on long term capital gains 23.8% to 39%, depending on location. That's close to Western European levels. Total tax rates (income tax + sales tax + property tax) on middle income Americans are much lower than European levels. You can't raise anywhere close to what Progressives like AOC and Bernie Sanders want by upping taxes on the wealthy. They just don't have the money. And you end up with self-defeating policies, that lower investment and incentives. If you want a European welfare state, you need to do what the Europeans do, impose a Value Added Tax, which is similar to a sales tax. A VAT, like tariffs, is regressive.
About your comments on Israel, I'd attribute the problem not to Trump's callousness, but rather to his impetuousness. There's a book being released today, Regime Change, by two New York Times reporters that says Rubio and the CIA both thought Netanyahu's plan to accomplish regime change in Iran was half baked. Unfortunately, Netanyahu had Trump's ear, and the rest is history.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071675]Re Tariffs-there is precisely no economic rationale to tariffs- the average hick thinks that China or wherever are paying the tax and not him. This is the same stupid belief that Trump was under and if the "Reciprocal" term in his tariffs highlights his disingenuity as well as his ignorance. I'm a strong believer in Ricardian economics and this, not tariffs, should be the means of ameliorating any trade deficits.
On the matter of tax, interesting statistics you have there. How do ya like them cherries? The figures you should be focused on is the TOTAL tax as proportion of GDP, anything else is rotten cherries, my friend. And I've asked both Perplexity and Claude where the US lays here, and it's not where you claim.
Country.
Tax revenue as % of GDP.
France.
46%.
Italy.
43%.
Germany.
39%.
UK.
34%.
Canada.
33%.
Brazil.
33%.
Japan.
33%.
South Korea.
32%.
Argentina.
30%.
Australia.
30%.
United States.
28%.
South Africa.
27%.
Russia.
23%.
Trkiye.
21%.
China.
20%.
Mexico.
17%.
India.
12%.
Indonesia.
12%.
Saudi Arabia.
8%.
This is from Perplexity. Claude gives similar results. America is far from the European levels of tax. Besides, Tariffs as a means to reduce the tax burden is one of the dumbest ways of doing things. It's no wonder that they haven't worked.
Trump made a case that he was going to reduce the national debt via tariffs, and instead he reduced the tax on the wealthiest. Please don't give any excuses of how "he didn't really mean to". Either he's ignorant or he's incompetent. Either way it's not pretty is it?
On Israel, your excuses for him are ringing hollow. To let Israel commit the horrific crimes that it has against the Palestinians, to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, to have Huckabee as ambassador who has literally erased the Palestinians identity and who endorses lebansraum by Israel: ""would be fine if they took it all" referring to large chunks of the rest of the Middle East being taken by Israel, not just Palestine, to. I could go on. Callous is an understatement. "Impetuous" is a joke.[/QUOTE]Well, you should move to France then. Sirioja likes it, although he doesn't want you there. Raise the tax take in the USA to the level of France and a couple of decades later America would be about 25% or 30% poorer than it would be otherwise. The private sector produces growth and jobs. Put more money in the hands of a wasteful federal government and the economy doesn't do as well.
I haven't looked at the correlation between tax revenues and GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power. But I have looked at the correlation with total government revenues and expenditures as a % of GDP. Kick out the petrostates like Norway and small places like Monaco and Luxembourg, and the most prosperous advanced economies in the world have historically been Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland and the USA. These countries also historically had lower government revenues and expenditures as a % of GDP, compared to other advanced economies.
As to your statement "he reduced the tax on the wealthiest," compare the 2017 tax tables to current tables. Tax rates would have reverted to 2017 levels without Trump's Big Beautiful Bill (BBB). You'll find that the TCJA (the Trump tax cuts) reduced tax rates in % terms (as a % of tax paid) more for lower income groups than higher income groups. In other words, the tax system would have become more regressive without the BBB. There are some people with pass through business entities that did benefit from the BBB. And I don't think those deductions, for so called "Qualified Business Income," should have been extended, or ever enacted. They qualify as pork IMO.
Yes, in absolute dollar terms, the wealthiest benefited more. That's what happens when 1% of the population pays 40% of the income tax.
I'm not sure why you're arguing. You maintain Trump imposed tariffs because he's evil and I think it was because he's ignorant. Either way we agree the tariffs were a mistake. We both believe in comparative advantage and disapprove of crony capitalism.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071675]Re Tariffs-there is precisely no economic rationale to tariffs- the average hick thinks that China or wherever are paying the tax and not him.[/QUOTE]LOL. Hot Dog, what do you think happened with the Trump tariffs? All the critics said prices would skyrocket, and they did not. Furthermore, Trump collected so much money he was going to give back $2000 to every taxpaying American. The businesses paying the tariffs ate them. It was the exact opposite of what you and so many econmists said then. It was a tax on thei rich and the money would have been going to everyone including the poor. Your TDS and economic theory has blinded you to this reality.
The Supreme Court ordered Trump pay back the tariffs to the businesses AKA the rich. You have such bad TDS that you do not even acknowledge that. Had Trump involved Congeress with the tarfifs, he could have gotten some part of what he wanted passed. That is part of why he gets a F in execution.
What China is and has been doing is produce goods so cheaply that they lose money in the short term and drive people out of business. Then they screw you once they are your sole provider of that good or service. Ideally, the tariffs work to end that game.
But the other reason Trumg gets a F on execution is he flew off the handle and acted so impulsively. I got an argument with some economist about how we were all going to have pay more for shoes, and I told him that he was full of it. If tariffs drive up the price, and they did not by the way, people would downgrade, buy used, or go without. Shoes have very elastic demand.
While I was saying that, someone chimed in and said that they could produce shoes as cheaply as China in a fully automated factory in the USA for $9 a pair. But if I were going to build that plant or invest in one, I would need to know the China tariffs were going to hold. They did not. The other thing is I want a fixed idea on what my costs are. Given many items that you need to build an automated factory come from abroad, then I would to know what my costs were, and that was impossible to know given that Trump was changing tariff rates every other day.
So the long term goal of tariffs was getting the USA less dependent on imports and moving factories back home was a complete dud. There was no uptick in investment in American factores with the tariffs and IMO it was Trump's lack of guidance that caused that to happen.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071675]ROn Israel, your excuses for him are ringing hollow. To let Israel commit the horrific crimes that it has against the Palestinians, to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, to have Huckabee as ambassador who has literally erased the Palestinians identity and who endorses lebansraum by Israel: ""would be fine if they took it all" referring to large chunks of the rest of the Middle East being taken by Israel, not just Palestine, to. I could go on. Callous is an understatement. "Impetuous" is a joke.[/QUOTE]I have already raved about Seymor Hersh and his sources. The headline is Trump breaks with Bibi. This is part of what was written: The MOU between Iran and the USA marks a historic rupture.
It had been an American political ritual, like kissing babies when campaigning, to support Israel in all things, as did President Joe Biden after the horrific Hamas attack inside Israel on October 7, 2023. There was no second guessing then from Washington, only a commitment of US arms, as Netanyahu initiated what would become years of bombing in Gaza, a campaign that has killed tens of thousands of Palestinian women and children, leading to public censure of Israel around the world.
An Israeli combat hero, whom I've known for decades, and who over the years has repeatedly expressed admiration for the United States, bitterly described Trump's actions in "reorienting" its Middle East policy to make Iran the lynch pin as a "betrayal of Israel by our best ally. " he added, sadly, that "Iran has oil and control of two waterways," referring to the Strait of Hormuz and a second choke point in the Horn of Africa off Yemen, an Iranian ally. "This will not be Bibi's final blow," the Israeli added, referring to criminal charges against the Prime Minister that are still pending.
My understanding of the current reasoning of Trump and Vice President JD Vance, who has emerged as the president's well-spoken envoy and confidant on all things Iranian and, now, oil, is that Netanyahu's expanding air and ground war in Lebanon was seen in Washington as an unwanted obstacle to US rapprochement with the Iranian leadership. "If Bibi can't win in Gaza" over Hamas, I was told by the US official, "how can he beat the Iranians? Trump has done something no one else could dohe has taken on Bibi, who overplayed his hand. Israel is no longer a dominant issue and Trump is telling Bibi, 'My place in the world is more important than your place.'
End of link. IMO Trump made a massive error listening to Bibi and starting the war, but he also admitted it was a mistake and bailed. To admit you are wrong is a rare thing for a pol to do.
I'm sad though. I thought for sure we'd be at WW3 by now, with nukes raining down all around us. But nada, zilch, zero, nothing. Still alive, living this shitty shitty life. Everything that's been happening, it was our best hope for the end of the world, but there's still 2 and a half years left. Nuclear armageddon could still happen, let's keep our fingers crossed OK?
Forget all this politics stuff guys, what really matters now is the question of who is Sadie Sink playing in the new Spiderman movie. I'm voting for Jean Gray!
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3071760]I'm sad though. I thought for sure we'd be at WW3 by now, with nukes raining down all around us. But nada, zilch, zero, nothing. Still alive, living this shitty shitty life. Everything that's been happening, it was our best hope for the end of the world, but there's still 2 and a half years left. Nuclear armageddon could still happen, let's keep our fingers crossed OK?[/QUOTE]But with Trump and China, death will arrive fast for most, from heat from pollution. Check your lungs and heart performances. High heat will be a good test to know who will survive or not. Same like in savana, strong and weak. This will be new WW arriving soon. After trying to rob their petrol, I hope Trump will help Venezuela now, when he wants to give 300 billions to mollahs still leading Iran.
I'm not taking a dogmatic position on being a high tax rate nation- I was simply refuting your made up assertion that the US is a high tax rate country when it clearly isn't, and Trump's assertion that the US needed tariffs to pay down the national debt. That clearly wasn't his intent, and the fact is he didn't have any idea on what his intent was, he shaped shifted his way through the tariffs and why they were necessary (to pay down the debt; no it's because we're being raped by China; no it's because we need to bring back industry; no it's because.) and he didn't follow through with consistent policies on anything; and in fact carried out adverse and contradictory policies concurrently with the tariffs.
See, that's my real beef with you Tiny and Elvis. That you persist in bending yourselves out of shape to find some semblance of rationale or logic or consistency to this fool when there simply isn't any. You don't see the commonality in capricious shape shifting that he did on tariffs and that on the Iran debacle but I do because it's freaking undeniable.
Oh and I don't know where you carry on finding your facts from; I asked both Gemini and Perplexity whether your assertion about the TCJA was correct re providing relatively better cuts to the lesser off; the answer is with the exception of those on Generally no; I'll provide the full summary below. The reality is a lot more nuanced than you're presenting it.
Did the tcja reduce tax for lower income more than higher income people?
Generally, no: the TCJA did not cut taxes for lower-income households *more* than for higher-income households in dollar terms, and many analyses find the largest dollar benefits went to higher-income households. But on a percentage-of-tax or percentage-of-income basis, some low- and middle-income groups saw larger relative reductions, so the answer depends on how you measure "more. ".
How the effects differ.
Low- and middle-income households benefited from the larger standard deduction and expanded child tax credit, which helped many working families. Higher-income households benefited more from rate cuts and some provisions that were more valuable at the top of the income distribution, so their total dollar gains were often larger.
What this means.
If you mean "who got the biggest tax cut in dollars," the answer is usually higher-income households. If you mean "who got the biggest cut relative to what they paid," some lower-income groups did better, and one analysis found the bottom half saw a larger percentage reduction than the top 10 percent.
Plain-language takeaway.
So the fairest short answer is: the TCJA was not mainly a bigger tax cut for lower-income people overall, though it did provide meaningful relief to many of them. The distribution was mixed, with relative gains for some lower-income families but larger total benefits concentrated higher up the income scale.
URL's removed as these don't seem to go through.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071726]Well, you should move to France then. Sirioja likes it, although he doesn't want you there. Raise the tax take in the USA to the level of France and a couple of decades later America would be about 25% or 30% poorer than it would be otherwise. The private sector produces growth and jobs. Put more money in the hands of a wasteful federal government and the economy doesn't do as well.
I haven't looked at the correlation between tax revenues and GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power. But I have looked at the correlation with total government revenues and expenditures as a % of GDP. Kick out the petrostates like Norway and small places like Monaco and Luxembourg, and the most prosperous advanced economies in the world have historically been Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland and the USA. These countries also historically had lower government revenues and expenditures as a % of GDP, compared to other advanced economies..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3071625]So poor ol' dumb but well-meaning Donald Trump and, for that matter, every other Repub president of the past 100 years, wants deep deep in his heart to improve the lives of the ordinary American working men and women but, darn it all, it keeps turning out that their policies and stewardship have instead produced every Great Depression, Great Recession, historic jobs destruction, skyrocketing unemployment rate and now Great Pandemic of the past 100 years and none of the great economic recoveries, great economic expansions or historic jobs creation.
And in the case of Donald Trump, also darn it all since he is so well-meaning deep deep in his heart and never intended such a thing since 1987, to make himself, his Crime Family and any cronies to whom he likely owed significant amounts of lost Trump Scams Investment money, massively wealthy to the tune of Billions by leveraging his threats to foreign countries and international corporations to impose otherwise blitheringly irrational Trump Tariffs in exchange for bribes and favors.
Wow. Just wow. Lolol..[/QUOTE]Tariffs are not only working to equalize the trade deficits but it is also bringing in hundreds of companies from several countries moving their manufacturing to USA. So far 42 Canadian companies have moved their manufacturing to Canada. Japan and South Korea have moved numerous companies to USA. GDP is increasing monthly and USA has finally evened to trade tariffs with most countries. Most people are smart enough to see this but sometimes their TDS just deteriorates their minds. USA is winning and it's fun to watch. What a difference from the Biden fiasco.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3071828]But with Trump and China, death will arrive fast for most, from heat from pollution. Check your lungs and heart performances. High heat will be a good test to know who will survive or not. Same like in savana, strong and weak. This will be new WW arriving soon. After trying to rob their petrol, I hope Trump will help Venezuela now, when he wants to give 300 billions to mollahs still leading Iran.[/QUOTE]You may be the reason that they put directions on shampoo bottles.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071726]Well, you should move to France then. Sirioja likes it, although he doesn't want you there. Raise the tax take in the USA to the level of France and a couple of decades later America would be about 25% or 30% poorer than it would be otherwise. The private sector produces growth and jobs. Put more money in the hands of a wasteful federal government and the economy doesn't do as well.
I haven't looked at the correlation between tax revenues and GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power. But I have looked at the correlation with total government revenues and expenditures as a % of GDP. Kick out the petrostates like Norway and small places like Monaco and Luxembourg, and the most prosperous advanced economies in the world have historically been Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland and the USA. These countries also historically had lower government revenues and expenditures as a % of GDP, compared to other advanced economies.
As to your statement "he reduced the tax on the wealthiest," compare the 2017 tax tables to current tables. Tax rates would have reverted to 2017 levels without Trump's Big Beautiful Bill (BBB). You'll find that the TCJA (the Trump tax cuts) reduced tax rates in % terms (as a % of tax paid) more for lower income groups than higher income groups. In other words, the tax system would have become more regressive without the BBB. There are some people with pass through business entities that did benefit from the BBB. And I don't think those deductions, for so called "Qualified Business Income," should have been extended, or ever enacted. They qualify as pork IMO.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. France along with numerous other high tax countries are failing. Even Sweden is making changes to be more a capitalist country. USA is still the best country to work and live in.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071906]I'm not taking a dogmatic position on being a high tax rate nation- I was simply refuting your made up assertion that the US is a high tax rate country when it clearly isn't, and Trump's assertion that the US needed tariffs to pay down the national debt. That clearly wasn't his intent, and the fact is he didn't have any idea on what his intent was, he shaped shifted his way through the tariffs and why they were necessary (to pay down the debt; no it's because we're being raped by China; no it's because we need to bring back industry; no it's because.) and he didn't follow through with consistent policies on anything; and in fact carried out adverse and contradictory policies concurrently with the tariffs.
See, that's my real beef with you Tiny and Elvis. That you persist in bending yourselves out of shape to find some semblance of rationale or logic or consistency to this fool when there simply isn't any. You don't see the commonality in capricious shape shifting that he did on tariffs and that on the Iran debacle but I do because it's freaking undeniable.
Oh and I don't know where you carry on finding your facts from; I asked both Gemini and Perplexity whether your assertion about the TCJA was correct re providing relatively better cuts to the lesser off; the answer is with the exception of those on Generally no; I'll provide the full summary below. The reality is a lot more nuanced than you're presenting it.
Did the tcja reduce tax for lower income more than higher income people?
Generally, no: the TCJA did not cut taxes for lower-income households *more* than for higher-income households in dollar terms, and many analyses find the largest dollar benefits went to higher-income households. But on a percentage-of-tax or percentage-of-income basis, some low- and middle-income groups saw larger relative reductions, so the answer depends on how you measure "more. ".
How the effects differ.
Low- and middle-income households benefited from the larger standard deduction and expanded child tax credit, which helped many working families. Higher-income households benefited more from rate cuts and some provisions that were more valuable at the top of the income distribution, so their total dollar gains were often larger.
What this means.
If you mean "who got the biggest tax cut in dollars," the answer is usually higher-income households. If you mean "who got the biggest cut relative to what they paid," some lower-income groups did better, and one analysis found the bottom half saw a larger percentage reduction than the top 10 percent.
Plain-language takeaway.
So the fairest short answer is: the TCJA was not mainly a bigger tax cut for lower-income people overall, though it did provide meaningful relief to many of them. The distribution was mixed, with relative gains for some lower-income families but larger total benefits concentrated higher up the income scale.
URL's removed as these don't seem to go through.[/QUOTE]I have NEVER asserted the USA was a high tax country. A number of times in this thread I've said it was a low tax country, compared to other advanced economies. In fact, I said that in what you quoted.
I have said the USA has a very progressive tax system compared to most other countries. Try a search on user Tiny 12 and keyword Mankiw. Or here's a less scholarly, more recent piece. To be honest I haven't read the .pdf yet, rather just the summary.
[URL]https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/measuring-tax-progressivity-high-income-countries-oecd[/URL]
As to what you pulled from Perplexity and Gemini, I already said the same thing, much more succinctly, in the post you quoted:
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071726]
Yes, in absolute dollar terms, the wealthiest benefited more. That's what happens when 1% of the population pays 40% of the income tax.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071928]I have NEVER asserted the USA was a high tax country. A number of times in this thread I've said it was a low tax country, compared to other advanced economies. In fact, I said that in what you quoted.
I have said the USA has a very progressive tax system compared to most other countries. Try a search on user Tiny 12 and keyword Mankiw. Or here's a less scholarly, more recent piece. To be honest I haven't read the .pdf yet, rather just the summary.
[URL]https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/measuring-tax-progressivity-high-income-countries-oecd[/URL]
As to what you pulled from Perplexity and Gemini, I already said the same thing, much more succinctly, in the post you quoted:[/QUOTE]OK, maybe I misunderstood your position in the comment:
"However, if you believe the highest end of mankind is to raise revenues for all encompassing government, you're not going to be able to milk the rich for much more than the USA already is. The maximum tax rate (federal + state + local) on ordinary income is 40.8% to 54% and on long term capital gains 23.8% to 39%, depending on location. That's close to Western European levels. Total tax rates (income tax + sales tax + property tax) on middle income Americans are much lower than European levels. You can't raise anywhere close to what Progressives like AOC and Bernie Sanders want by upping taxes on the wealthy."
It seemed to me that you don't think that the US has any capacity to increase its tax take. Which is the reason I displayed the overall tax as a proportion of GDP rankings. While I don't think the European models of extreme taxation are right or feasible, that doesn't mean the status quo is sustainable. The bottom line is America has a huge and growing debt overhang and none of Trump's policies (if you can call them that) aren't fit for purpose or their counterproductive. How do you propose to manage this?
I'm glad that you're not making BS claims like some here that the tariffs have reduced trade deficits ([URL]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge4yxwnlno[/URL])
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3071928]I have NEVER asserted the USA was a high tax country. A number of times in this thread I've said it was a low tax country, compared to other advanced economies. In fact, I said that in what you quoted.
I have said the USA has a very progressive tax system compared to most other countries. Try a search on user Tiny 12 and keyword Mankiw. Or here's a less scholarly, more recent piece. To be honest I haven't read the .pdf yet, rather just the summary.
[URL]https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/measuring-tax-progressivity-high-income-countries-oecd[/URL]
As to what you pulled from Perplexity and Gemini, I already said the same thing, much more succinctly, in the post you quoted:[/QUOTE]An interesting article. I hadn't seen it.
[QUOTE=Canada;3071909][b]Tariffs are working[/b]
Tariffs are not only working to equalize the trade deficits but it is also bringing in hundreds of companies from several countries moving their manufacturing to USA. So far 42 Canadian companies have moved their manufacturing to Canada. Japan and South Korea have moved numerous companies to USA. GDP is increasing monthly and USA has finally evened to trade tariffs with most countries. Most people are smart enough to see this but sometimes their TDS just deteriorates their minds. USA is winning and it's fun to watch. What a difference from the Biden fiasco.[/QUOTE]The A. I. Overviews:
[QUOTE][b]Is manufacturing still losing jobs in the USA? [/b]
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[B]Yes, the U.S. manufacturing sector is still losing jobs, despite a surge in factory construction spending and rising output. The industry has faced persistent job declines, with factory employment hitting a six-year low in recent surveys.[/B]
Key facts regarding the decline include:Massive Layoffs: Job cuts at U.S. factories recently reached their highest levels since the 20082009 financial crisis.Historical Context: The U.S. has lost roughly 4.5 million manufacturing jobs since 2000 as production shifted to countries with lower labor costs, such as India, Vietnam, and Mexico.Key Drivers: Economists point to a mix of heavy automation on the factory floor, high operating costs, [b]and lingering uncertainties caused by global trade policies and tariffs.[/b]The Construction Paradox: While investment in building new manufacturing facilities (especially for electronics and semiconductors) has skyrocketed, these are[b] temporary construction jobs. [/b]The resulting automated, high-tech factories require significantly fewer permanent workers to operate once built.If you want to understand this trend better, let me know:Which specific industries you are most interested in (e.g., autos, semiconductors, aerospace).Whether you want to focus on national policy impacts or regional labor trends.U.S. manufacturers are still shedding thousands of jobs, as workers ask White ...Mar 6, 2569 BE In the meantime,[b] employment data shows American manufacturers are continuing to cut jobs, with the U.S. shedding 83,000 manufacturing jobs during Mr. Trump's fi...CBS NewsFactory job cuts in June neared financial crisis and Covid levels, S&P says - CNBCJun 23, 2569 BE Job cuts at U.S. factories ran near their highest levels since the end of the global financial crisis in 2009 and the Covid-19 pandemic as worries grew over glo...[/b][/QUOTE][QUOTE][b]Are more foreign companies moving manufacturing to the us under Trump?[/b]
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[B]Yes, many foreign companies are expanding their manufacturing footprint in the U.S. to bypass sweeping trade tariffs. However, this "reshoring" effort hasn't translated into a broad domestic factory hiring boom, as total U.S. manufacturing employment has actually declined overall.[/b]Specific actions by foreign companies include:Pharmaceuticals: Swedish drugmaker AstraZeneca committed to a $50 billion investment to expand U.S. production by 2030, while GSK is investing $30 billion.Automotive: Hyundai Motor Group is investing $21 billion in U.S. operations, and Honda moved production of its Civic hybrid from Mexico to Indiana.Consumer Goods: Italian coffee maker Lavazza is pushing to have 100% of its U.S.-sold products manufactured locally to avoid Reuters tariff fallout.Despite these high-profile capital investments from overseas, the Wall Street Journal reports that total U.S. manufacturing employment has declined by over 200,000 roles in recent years.[/QUOTE]BTW, were you thinking that foreign companies moving manufacturing to the USA was going to cause prices of those products to decline for the American Consumer?
Uh. Nope.
[QUOTE][b]Do products made by foreign companies in the usa cost more?[/b]
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[B]Products manufactured by foreign companies on U.S. soil generally carry higher price tags.[/b] This is primarily driven by the higher cost of U.S. labor, stricter regulatory standards, and steep localized overhead. Additionally, many components for these items must still be imported, triggering supply-chain fees and import tariffs.The primary factors driving up costs include:Labor & Benefits: U.S. manufacturing wages and mandatory worker benefits (such as health insurance) are substantially higher than in manufacturing hubs like China or Vietnam.Compliance & Overhead: American factories must comply with strict environmental, labor, and safety regulations, which require significant capital to maintain.Imported Parts: Foreign companies often build "made-in-the-USA" assembly plants but still rely on globally sourced raw materials and electronic components[/QUOTE]Good for GDP? Since when?
[B]Trump Has Sent Americas GDP Into a Downward Spiral.
April 9, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/articles/trump-sent-economy-free-fall-134836388.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Between October and December, America's real gross domestic product fell from 4.4 percent to just 0.5 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis reported Thursday.
That figure is significantly less than the agency's second estimate of 0.7 percent growth, reported last month.[/QUOTE]To recap:
Trump's Tariffs are "working" to increase prices for products the American Consumer wants or needs to buy while losing jobs for the American Working Men and Women and sending America's GDP into a downward spiral.
Oh, and the rate of inflation due to Trump's policies is increasing rather than decreasing, which Trump loves:
[B]Trump says 'I love the inflation' as US prices rise at fastest rate in three years.
June 11, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0myzxjkw99o[/URL]
[B]Its Not Just High Gas Prices Inflation Is Now Spreading Through the U.S. Economy.
May 28, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/articles/not-just-high-gas-prices-181248183.html[/URL]
The climate virtue signaling in France has become so strong that people are dying. Instead of encouraging elderly and infirm French men and women to seek and install air conditioning the government encourages coping mechanisms, like wetting yourself with water and eating cold soup. If you have ac you should confine it to one room and set the thermostat to 79 degrees Fahrenheit. This is from today's WSJ. Meanwhile, the good people at the left-of-center Economist took a model developed by a French researcher and applied it to forecasted temperatures on June 24 to June 26. That indicates there will be 1500 excess deaths from heat in those 3 days in Paris alone! And the death rate should be up about 300%! I'm writing from my mobile phone and those are pay sites anyway, but if you have subscriptions you'll have no problem finding the articles.
[QUOTE=Canada;3071909][b]Tariffs are working[/b]
Tariffs are not only working to equalize the trade deficits but it is also bringing in hundreds of companies from several countries moving their manufacturing to USA. So far 42 Canadian companies have moved their manufacturing to Canada. Japan and South Korea have moved numerous companies to USA. GDP is increasing monthly and USA has finally evened to trade tariffs with most countries. Most people are smart enough to see this but sometimes their TDS just deteriorates their minds. USA is winning and it's fun to watch. What a difference from the Biden fiasco.[/QUOTE]Joe Biden caused factory construction to increase. By American companies, for American companies, benefitting Americans and hiring American workers.
Behold the usual stark contrast between the economic policy and stewardship results of Dems like Joe Biden vs those of Repubs like Donald Trump:
[B]Trump's tariffs are causing harm to American manufacturers instead of benefiting them.
March 18, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/trumps-tariffs-are-causing-harm-to-american-manufacturers-instead-of-benefiting-them[/URL]
[QUOTE][b]Manufacturing jobs have declined during Trump's first year back[/b]
Trump's core rationale for tariffs has been that they would force more factories to open in the U.S. and would generate enough revenue to close federal budget deficits. But that hasn't materialized.
Factories continue to shed workers, with 98,000 manufacturing jobs lost during Trump's first full 12 months back in the White House. American companies that foot the bill for tariffs are now suing the Trump administration for more than $130 billion in tariff refunds. Meanwhile, the federal deficit is projected to climb over the next decade.
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[B]Construction is up but that's due to Biden's bill[/b]
Some of the bright spots in construction cited by the White House appear to be the result of programs launched by then-President Joe Biden, a Democrat.
Factory construction spending began to accelerate in 2022 with the anticipation of government support from Biden's CHIPS and Science Act, which included big subsidies for computer chip plants. The law was a primary contributor to a historic surge in the annualized rate of construction spending on manufacturing facilities, said Skanda Amarnath, executive director of the economic policy group Employ America.[/QUOTE]Attention actual USA Citizens qualified to register and vote in the USA; if you prefer the latter results in the above linked citation, vote Dem up and down the ballot in every election. If you prefer the former results, either don't bother to vote or, worse, vote for candidates other than Dems anywhere on your ballot.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3071979]OK, maybe I misunderstood your position in the comment:
"However, if you believe the highest end of mankind is to raise revenues for all encompassing government, you're not going to be able to milk the rich for much more than the USA already is. The maximum tax rate (federal + state + local) on ordinary income is 40.8% to 54% and on long term capital gains 23.8% to 39%, depending on location. That's close to Western European levels. Total tax rates (income tax + sales tax + property tax) on middle income Americans are much lower than European levels. You can't raise anywhere close to what Progressives like AOC and Bernie Sanders want by upping taxes on the wealthy."
It seemed to me that you don't think that the US has any capacity to increase its tax take. Which is the reason I displayed the overall tax as a proportion of GDP rankings. While I don't think the European models of extreme taxation are right or feasible, that doesn't mean the status quo is sustainable. The bottom line is America has a huge and growing debt overhang and none of Trump's policies (if you can call them that) aren't fit for purpose or their counterproductive. How do you propose to manage this?
I'm glad that you're not making BS claims like some here that the tariffs have reduced trade deficits ([URL]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge4yxwnlno[/URL])[/QUOTE]From what you quoted: "Total tax rates (income tax + sales tax + property tax) on middle income Americans are much lower than European levels. " In an earlier reply to you I also said you'd have to impose a regressive value added tax to pay for what progressive Democrats want. Of course the USA has the ability to raise tax substantially on the less-than-wealthy and become like France. Progressive Democrat politicians refuse to admit they can't do that just by taxing people who make over $300,000 a year (Biden) or who are worth more than $100 million (Warren and Newsome). They're using class warfare to get votes.
As to tariffs I don't like them for the reasons you don't. However GDP growth has chugged along nicely despite them. When I get some time, I'll elaborate in a reply to Elvis who disagreed in another of his thought provoking (honestly) posts.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072004]The climate virtue signaling in France has become so strong that people are dying. Instead of encouraging elderly and infirm French men and women to seek and install air conditioning the government encourages coping mechanisms, like wetting yourself with water and eating cold soup. If you have ac you should confine it to one room and set the thermostat to 79 degrees Fahrenheit. This is from today's WSJ. Meanwhile, the good people at the left-of-center Economist took a model developed by a French researcher and applied it to forecasted temperatures on June 24 to June 26. That indicates there will be 1500 excess deaths from heat in those 3 days in Paris alone! And the death rate should be up about 300%! I'm writing from my mobile phone and those are pay sites anyway, but if you have subscriptions you'll have no problem finding the articles.[/QUOTE]Typical American thinking he knows, when just ignorant, believing everything written on internet, probably by stupid US AI. Since 2003 very high heat, all residences for old people must have a with AC room to refresh all old people living in the residence. For old people living in their home, employees from towns administration follow these old people situation, calling them reminding them to drink, asking them if they are fine. Reality in France where I live and get all true information. Of course, not healthy are at risk under high heat, same like obese. Many young also have problems, because not healthy from US foods they eat and thinking they are able to swim, but not really able and also ignorant, not knowing cold water can be dangerous when high heat. Yes, in France, we don t put AC everywhere, I never put on in my car, when lowering engine power and bad for health, catching cold. US Trump not caring about pollution, make heat going higher, more fire, more tornados, killing people, just a criminal, after war criminal who killed 150 young Iranian girls in a school. At least, true facts, for Trump and his pollution, competing with China. A American pollute almost double than a Western European I am.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3072006]
Attention actual USA Citizens qualified to register and vote in the USA; if you prefer the latter results in the above linked citation, vote Dem up and down the ballot in every election. If you prefer the former results, either don't bother to vote or, worse, vote for candidates other than Dems anywhere on your ballot.[/QUOTE]Nobody's going to fall for that Tooms.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072029]Nobody's going to fall for that Tooms.[/QUOTE]Tell us more about your totally unfounded and unsubstantiated opinion that GDP has been "chugging along" despite Trump's Tariffs rather than declining.
This is all I'm going to say. NFLX is at 52 week lows, a good company with decent valuation. Buy a bunch now, and in a coupla months when it hits 100 bucks, you'll thank me. That's assuming we're all still alive in a few months. This is a way better trade than they idiots buying MSTY. There's no future in AI! Also, Ebola is in France, while it's having its worst heat wave in decades, so France ain't shit either!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3072028]Yes, in France, we don t put AC everywhere, I never put on in my car, when lowering engine power and bad for health, catching cold. US Trump not caring about pollution, make heat going higher, more fire, more tornados, killing people, just a criminal, after war criminal who killed 150 young Iranian girls in a school. At least, true facts, for Trump and his pollution, competing with China. A American pollute almost double than a Western European I am.[/QUOTE]Well, Ive recently read a couple of articles about children dying in cars from heat in France. Maybe the French need to get over the fear of pollution, climate change and catching cold, and leave their engines running and air conditioning on when kids are in the car. I realize that gasoline costs a lot more and the French make a lot less than we do. And if you leave your engine running with your kids inside in France, there's a good chance an immigrant will steal your car and kidnap your children. I guess there's no good solution.
Hah! The French are always insulting other countries and thinking they're better than everyone else, so how can they in their infinite wisdom allow a little tiny heat to kill off people? Puh lease. We're talking about Phoenix like weather, that's nothing! (I want you guys to imagine PePe Lepeu speaking now in his accent) Zee French should learn how to tolerate 110 degree heat a little better like us folks here in Arizona. Give me a break! Freaking 43 Celsius or 110 Fahrenheit ain't nothing for the South West baby! Bunch of cry baby euros.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072066]Well, Ive recently read a couple of articles about children dying in cars from heat in France. Maybe the French need to get over the fear of pollution, climate change and catching cold, and leave their engines running and air conditioning on when kids are in the car. I realize that gasoline costs a lot more and the French make a lot less than we do. And if you leave your engine running with your kids inside in France, there's a good chance an immigrant will steal your car and kidnap your children. I guess there's no good solution.[/QUOTE]Yes, sad, terrible accidents for 3 young children, same like so many young who are drowning, not having good level enough to swim, whatever they can think they can do everything, but dying in water, not able to swim. When people tell me I'm crazy not to use AC in my car, but for 3 children, it was totally different: Cars were not working but parked, children played and hide in cars under high heat. Mothers looked where were children and discovered hidden in cars and dead. Just 2 very sad accidents, nothing about safety, nor people who forget or let pets or children or granny in car under heat like in oven. I think you are too much a Trump blind follower about immigration, even I agree this is also a now uncontrolled problem in Europe, but we don t have your Epstein and all those who did benefit around him, with stars and politics, when we have Caucasian types who rape women and under 18 and kill children, not always Arabs or Black, even also, but not always. Some white are also rappers or pedophile, like your Epstein and all his friends and Trump accused by several women. Do You think all these women lie?
The Dis United States of America is an excellent place (used to be) to make money. Quality of life by all reports from individuals I trust is that it has declined. Oklahoma run by Republicans is an example.
[QUOTE=Canada;3071922]USA is still the best country to work [/QUOTE]If you mean be a wage slave on a corporate / government plantation then you might be correct now. But AI is taking jobs away from people. So your statement might not age too well.
[QUOTE=Canada;3071922]and live in.[/QUOTE][B]No![/B]
Point of fact, you have never lived in another country have you [B]Canada[/B]?
Not only me and 60% Americans, but also seaweed don t like Trump megalomania. So funny, they are fucking his painting. Newton had the apple fall, now the orange fall, no peace, but defeat at war, needing now to pay 300 billions for same geopolitics than before. Americans will have to pay his spending and feeding seaweed. So funny. In fact, not really when he doesn't care about citizens, a president scorning most of citizens.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072004]The climate virtue signaling in France has become so strong that people are dying. Instead of encouraging elderly and infirm French men and women to seek and install air conditioning the government encourages coping mechanisms, like wetting yourself with water and eating cold soup. If you have ac you should confine it to one room and set the thermostat to 79 degrees Fahrenheit. This is from today's WSJ. Meanwhile, the good people at the left-of-center Economist took a model developed by a French researcher and applied it to forecasted temperatures on June 24 to June 26. That indicates there will be 1500 excess deaths from heat in those 3 days in Paris alone! And the death rate should be up about 300%! I'm writing from my mobile phone and those are pay sites anyway, but if you have subscriptions you'll have no problem finding the articles.[/QUOTE]France like several other Europe countries were stupid enough to fall for the climate change hoax. It has increased energy costs so much that people can't afford to cool or heat their homes. France also followed Biden woke policies and Biden open border disaster which continue to destroy the country. At least USA is trying to correct their problems but France continues their failures.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3072053]Tell us more about your totally unfounded and unsubstantiated opinion that GDP has been "chugging along" despite Trump's Tariffs rather than declining.[/QUOTE]
It’s not an opinion, it’s fact.
GDP is measured quarterly. It was up 2.7% from the 1Q2025, when Trump took office, to 1Q2026, the most recent reported quarter. For the 2Q2026, which will end shortly, the consensus forecast on Bloomberg, from 65 contributors, is 2.5% for the quarter on quarter seasonally adjusted annualized rate. Economists think long term GDP growth will be around 2% or a little lower. So 2.5%+ is pretty good.
That said, GDP growth would have been higher without the tariffs and the second Iran war.
On the other hand, all else being equal, GDP growth would have been lower without Trump's Big Beautiful Bill and probably without deregulation.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3072093]Not only me and 60% Americans, but also seaweed don t like Trump megalomania. So funny, they are fucking his painting. Newton had the apple fall, now the orange fall, no peace, but defeat at war, needing now to pay 300 billions for same geopolitics than before. Americans will have to pay his spending and feeding seaweed. So funny. In fact, not really when he doesn't care about citizens, a president scorning most of citizens.[/QUOTE]Supposedly Gulf States will pay the $300 billion. And apparently Iran's expecting another $40 billion a year from ships transiting the Hormuz Strait, which it might split with Oman. I have doubts about whether all that will happen.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072145]Supposedly Gulf States will pay the $300 billion. And apparently Iran's expecting another $40 billion a year from ships transiting the Hormuz Strait, which it might split with Oman. I have doubts about whether all that will happen.[/QUOTE]All consequences are your stupid Trump fault and failure to lose this war he should never start when promising peace. But he is senile.
[QUOTE=Canada;3072106]France like several other Europe countries were stupid enough to fall for the climate change hoax. It has increased energy costs so much that people can't afford to cool or heat their homes.[/QUOTE]Inaccurate. Supply problems and logistical problems are the cause for higher energy prices. Think about the wars around the world that have effected oil and gas supply and logistics.
[QUOTE=Canada;3072106]France also followed Biden woke policies and Biden open border disaster which continue to destroy the country. [/QUOTE]The Dis United States of America want immigrants they can exploit. The obese population of the Dis United States of America would not eat meat or have fresh fruits or vegetables if it were not for the immigrant population doing the hard and dirty work of meat processing and agriculture especially in California. With all the oil in the Dis United States of America energy prices should be going down not up. But the ponzi scheme system of fiat currency requires that they steal from you through inflation. So prices keep going up.
[QUOTE=Canada;3072106]At least USA is trying to correct their problems but France continues their failures.[/QUOTE]What are the Republicans trying do for the Dis United States of America. I give as an example: [B]Oklahoma[/B]. One of the poorest states in the Dis United States of America is run by Republicans. How ironic that the party that is for the rich and racist has run Oklahoma into the ground like that.
I've had my fair share of heat and humidity back in Vietnam thanks to uncle Sam, and now here in Arizona I know what heat actually is. Them pussies over in Europe are experiencing a heat wave? Give me a break. Just turn on the AC, drink some water, bunch of freaks. This is some kind of global psyop if you ask me. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me we landed on the moon or Lee Harvey Oswald actually killed JFK. Sheesh. Thanks AI! Now, we'll never know what's real or fake anymore when watching the news. So much for Walter Cronkite. I can only assume everything coming out of the news these days is fake.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3072167]Inaccurate. Supply problems and logistical problems are the cause for higher energy prices. Think about the wars around the world that have effected oil and gas supply and logistics.
The Dis United States of America want immigrants they can exploit. The obese population of the Dis United States of America would not eat meat or have fresh fruits or vegetables if it were not for the immigrant population doing the hard and dirty work of meat processing and agriculture especially in California. With all the oil in the Dis United States of America energy prices should be going down not up. But the ponzi scheme system of fiat currency requires that they steal from you through inflation. So prices keep going up.
What are the Republicans trying do for the Dis United States of America. I give as an example: [B]Oklahoma[/B]. One of the poorest states in the Dis United States of America is run by Republicans. How ironic that the party that is for the rich and racist has run Oklahoma into the ground like that.[/QUOTE]I beg to disagree on several points SubCmdr. And agree on several as well. On energy, I think your description of the problem would be pretty good for Germany, which was shutoff from Russian gas and needs to upgrade its grid. It's struggling also because it shut down its nuclear power plants, which were a source of 24/7 power.
France on the other hand generates most of its electricity from nuclear, which costs more than natural gas and coal, and for that matter more than solar and wind without battery storage. Retail customers in France pay around $0.24/ kw-HR, compared to $0.18/ kw-HR for the USA, $0.33/ kw-HR for California, and $0.40/ kw-HR for Germany.
So French electricity prices are high but not ridiculously high, like California and Germany. I begrudgingly have to admit to Sirioja that if you want low carbon emissions AND a reliable power system, France hasn't done a bad job.
On the other hand, French gasoline prices are ridiculously high. Before the second Iran war, they were running about $6.95 per gallon in France, compared to $4.40 in California and $2.50 in God's Country (Texas).
Please note that Democrats want to exploit immigrants and Republicans want to ship them home. I think we should exploit them! Not in a bad way though. Putting immigrants to work doing jobs Americans don't want to do is a good idea, for meat processing and agriculture and the like. And if Elvis gets his way, making shoes. The immigrants and the citizens both benefit. It would be far preferable IMO though to have a guest worker program in place of what we have now and had in the past.
The market for oil is worldwide. Normally you can put it on a tanker and ship it 8000 miles for under $1.00 per barrel. Right now with the conflict in Iran it may be more like $3. 00. Which still is low compared to the cost of a barrel of oil. In other words, if you shut off 15% of the world supply by closing the Strait of Hormuz, prices will go up everywhere, including the USA.
I agree that the USA is in a much better position than most places with respect to energy security. It would be in an even better position if Democrats hadn't blocked pipelines and threatened to ban drilling on federal leases and ban fracking everywhere. The progressives like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders represent an existential threat to the oil and gas industry, and that puts a damper on investment.
I don't live in Oklahoma and haven't spent much time there. From what I've experienced and read, the patch of Texas where I live is better off than most cities and towns controlled by Democrats, in part because of more efficient and less wasteful government. We don't have homeless people on the streets (they're in shelters) and the median income is high. The unemployment rate is low. Hispanics represent the largest share of the population, just a **** hair under 50%, and they vote for Republicans.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3072177]I've had my fair share of heat and humidity back in Vietnam thanks to uncle Sam, and now here in Arizona I know what heat actually is. Them pussies over in Europe are experiencing a heat wave? Give me a break. Just turn on the AC, drink some water, bunch of freaks. This is some kind of global psyop if you ask me. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me we landed on the moon or Lee Harvey Oswald actually killed JFK. Sheesh. Thanks AI! Now, we'll never know what's real or fake anymore when watching the news. So much for Walter Cronkite. I can only assume everything coming out of the news these days is fake.[/QUOTE]Americans, most fat, who can t live without AC and second for pollution, more than India, just after China. When 40 Celcius, I don t need AC, in my car, AC is always off, when bicycle climbing mountains for my dreamed holidays, under sun under 45 degrees in sun, when I'm not 20/30 anymore, but I don't eat American shits, I'm not obese.
Iran launched missiles and drones on U.S. military sites in Kuwait and Bahrain.
The U.S. military said earlier it had struck Iran again, hours after a tanker was hit in the Strait of Hormuz, the world's most important energy shipping route, which Tehran has largely closed for most of the conflict.
I thought there was a peace agreement. Am I missing something? Another prime example of Republican mismanagement of public policy. Makes Oklahoma look like child's play.
ROTFLMAO!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3072167]Inaccurate. Supply problems and logistical problems are the cause for higher energy prices. Think about the wars around the world that have effected oil and gas supply and logistics.
The Dis United States of America want immigrants they can exploit. The obese population of the Dis United States of America would not eat meat or have fresh fruits or vegetables if it were not for the immigrant population doing the hard and dirty work of meat processing and agriculture especially in California. With all the oil in the Dis United States of America energy prices should be going down not up. But the ponzi scheme system of fiat currency requires that they steal from you through inflation. So prices keep going up.
What are the Republicans trying do for the Dis United States of America. I give as an example: [B]Oklahoma[/B]. One of the poorest states in the Dis United States of America is run by Republicans. How ironic that the party that is for the rich and racist has run Oklahoma into the ground like that.[/QUOTE]Come to USA and see for yourself. Every Republican state is better off than the democratic states. Oklahoma is ten times better than California and that is why more people leave CA to go to Republican states. Montana, Wyoming, and South Dakota have thousands of California residents moving in. Zero state taxes and cheaper cost of living makes republican states very attractive. It is a shame you are not smart enough to see that.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072143]Its not an opinion, its fact.
GDP is measured quarterly. It was up 2.7% from the 1Q2025, when Trump took office, to 1Q2026, the most recent reported quarter. For the 2Q2026, which will end shortly, the consensus forecast on Bloomberg, from 65 contributors, is 2.5% for the quarter on quarter seasonally adjusted annualized rate. Economists think long term GDP growth will be around 2% or a little lower. So 2.5%+ is pretty good.
That said, GDP growth would have been higher without the tariffs and the second Iran war.
On the other hand, all else being equal, GDP growth would have been lower without Trump's Big Beautiful Bill and probably without deregulation.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right GDP is up and Trump economy is gaining steam. Biden regulations and policies destroyed USA economy and Trump is slowly digging us out of the hole that Biden put us in. Once the trillions of dollars of investments infrastructures get completed the GDP will soar even more. 18 months of Republican leaders and USA is well on its way from recovering from the Biden destruction. What a difference 18 months make.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3072264]Iran launched missiles and drones on U.S. military sites in Kuwait and Bahrain.
The U.S. military said earlier it had struck Iran again, hours after a tanker was hit in the Strait of Hormuz, the world's most important energy shipping route, which Tehran has largely closed for most of the conflict.
I thought there was a peace agreement. Am I missing something? Another prime example of Republican mismanagement of public policy. Makes Oklahoma look like child's play.
ROTFLMAO![/QUOTE]Peace is impossible with war criminal Netanyahou and schizophrene senile Trump. Who started this war?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3072208]Americans, most fat, who can t live without AC and second for pollution, more than India, just after China. When 40 Celcius, I don t need AC, in my car, AC is always off, when bicycle climbing mountains for my dreamed holidays, under sun under 45 degrees in sun, when I'm not 20/30 anymore, but I don't eat American shits, I'm not obese.[/QUOTE]Baloney. The USA is 160th out of 217 countries for air pollution.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_air_pollution[/URL]
Please do not risk your health bicycling in mountains in 45 degree Celsius heat. I enjoy your posts even though I often disagree with them and would prefer you don't die for a long time.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072291]Baloney. The USA is 160th out of 217 countries for air pollution.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_air_pollution[/URL]
Please do not risk your health bicycling in mountains in 45 degree Celsius heat. I enjoy your posts even though I often disagree with them and would prefer you don't die for a long time.[/QUOTE]USA are second for pollution after China which make 30% of pollution. Heat, tornados, big rains are due to pollution effects. AC use a lot of energy with pollution to make this energy. Trump is so ignorant, when our planet is dying from pollution. I love my intense sporty holidays, before dying.
[QUOTE=Canada;3072285] It is a shame you are not smart enough to see that.[/QUOTE]See what exactly?
Blue (Democratic-leaning) states generally have higher median household incomes than red (Republican-leaning) states, with 15 of the top 20 highest-income states leaning Democratic as of 2023 data. The national median household income is $81,000, and many blue states exceed this, while several red states fall below it.
Top-income states by political leaning (2023 median household income):
Blue states: Massachusetts ($107 K), Maryland ($102 K), New Hampshire ($99 K), Colorado ($97 K), Hawaii ($97 K), Virginia ($96 K), Washington ($93 K), Connecticut ($92 K), New Jersey ($92 K), California ($90 K).
Red states: Utah ($101 K), Alaska ($98 K), Nebraska ($89 K), Kansas ($85 K), South Dakota ($82 K).
Swing states: Arizona ($83 K), Nevada ($81 K), Pennsylvania ($80 K), Wisconsin ($80 K), Michigan ($77 K), Georgia ($72 K), North Carolina ($69 K).
Lowest-income states are predominantly red, including Mississippi ($55 K), Louisiana ($58 K), West Virginia ($60 K), Alabama ($61 K), and Arkansas ($63 K). Notable exceptions include New Mexico (blue, $61 K) and Utah / Alaska (red, both above $98 K). This pattern reflects broader economic differences, with blue states often having more urbanized, service-oriented economies, while red states rely more on agriculture, manufacturing, and natural resources.
[QUOTE=Canada;3072285]Come to USA and see for yourself. [/QUOTE]I have visited 48 of the 50 states in the Dis United States of America. Exactly WHAT do you think I need to see?
[QUOTE=Canada;3072285]Every Republican state is better off than the democratic states. [/QUOTE]Inaccurate. See the information I provided above.
[QUOTE=Canada;3072285]Oklahoma is ten times better than California and that is why more people leave CA to go to Republican states.[/QUOTE]What is the basis for this statement? What state do you actually live in in the Dis United States of America?
[QUOTE=Canada;3072285]Montana, Wyoming, and South Dakota have thousands of California residents moving in. Zero state taxes and cheaper cost of living makes republican states very attractive.[/QUOTE]No, Montana does not have zero state taxes; it imposes a graduated individual income tax (up to 6. 75%) and a corporate income tax (6. 75%.
In contrast, South Dakota and Wyoming have zero individual and corporate income tax, but they are not entirely tax-free as they rely on other revenue sources:
South Dakota levies a sales tax (averaging 6. 11% combined) and property tax (effective rate 1. 17% along with taxes on cigarettes and alcohol to offset the lack of income tax.
Wyoming has a sales tax (averaging 5. 36%) and property tax (effective rate 0. 53% while also utilizing severance taxes on mineral extraction.
All three states, like all USA States, levy property taxes.
This is the [B]third time [/B]I have had to put you in check using facts.
What a debacle, what a dumbass MAGA president! When the dude can't even manage the re-servicing, re-doing and re-painting a reflecting pool, I don't image the country will fare any better under this presidential total incompetence.
How much of a loser MAGA president can you be?
Yet another bungled project with millions of taxpayer dollars to the fragile ego and vanity of a president who continues to fiddle while America insidiously crumbles and burns, from MAGA "values" of corruption, ineptitude and lawlessness and the continuous "fuck you" to hardworking Americans, as the MAGA president cares very little for affordable housing for those hardworking Americans, since before he was elected and so concerned about the price of bacon.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072143]Its not an opinion, its fact.
GDP is measured quarterly. It was up 2.7% from the 1Q2025, when Trump took office, to 1Q2026, the most recent reported quarter. For the 2Q2026, which will end shortly, the consensus forecast on Bloomberg, from 65 contributors, is 2.5% for the quarter on quarter seasonally adjusted annualized rate. Economists think long term GDP growth will be around 2% or a little lower. So 2.5%+ is pretty good.
That said, GDP growth would have been higher without the tariffs and the second Iran war.
On the other hand, all else being equal, GDP growth would have been lower without Trump's Big Beautiful Bill and probably without deregulation.[/QUOTE]Nice. You combined your own unfounded and unsubstantiated opinion that the USA GDP Growth Rate is not declining with other peoples' opinion about what will happen by the end of this year.
[B]U.S. GDP (1960-2026)[/B]
[URL]https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/gdp-growth-rate[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gdp4q21_3rd.pdf[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bea.gov/news/2023/gross-domestic-product-fourth-quarter-and-year-2022-third-estimate-gdp-industry-and[/URL]
Yep. After the 4th Quarter of the year, the USA GDP Growth Rate for the entire year is also calculated and published:
Biden.
2021 = 6. 9%.
2022 = 2. 6%.
2023 = 2. 89%.
2024 = 2. 79%.
Trump.
2025 = 2. 11%.
2026, Q1 = 1. 27%.
Last I checked, 2. 11% is lower than 6. 9%, 2. 6%, 2. 89% and 2. 79%.
And there is nothing about a 1. 27% YOY 1st Quarter figure that suggests Trump's 2nd year of his 2nd term GDP Growth Rate will be higher than any of the 4 Biden years either.
Sorry. I looked but could not find a definition for the term "chugging along" in any of those historical records links. "Declining" and "Increasing", yes. "Chugging along", no.
Are you going to break the bad news to Canada or should I?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3072352]See what exactly?
Blue (Democratic-leaning) states generally have higher median household incomes than red (Republican-leaning) states, with 15 of the top 20 highest-income states leaning Democratic as of 2023 data. The national median household income is $81,000, and many blue states exceed this, while several red states fall below it.
Top-income states by political leaning (2023 median household income):
Blue states: Massachusetts ($107 K), Maryland ($102 K), New Hampshire ($99 K), Colorado ($97 K), Hawaii ($97 K), Virginia ($96 K), Washington ($93 K), Connecticut ($92 K), New Jersey ($92 K), California ($90 K).
Red states: Utah ($101 K), Alaska ($98 K), Nebraska ($89 K), Kansas ($85 K), South Dakota ($82 K).
Swing states: Arizona ($83 K), Nevada ($81 K), Pennsylvania ($80 K), Wisconsin ($80 K), Michigan ($77 K), Georgia ($72 K), North Carolina ($69 K).
Lowest-income states are predominantly red, including Mississippi ($55 K), Louisiana ($58 K), West Virginia ($60 K), Alabama ($61 K), and Arkansas ($63 K). Notable exceptions include New Mexico (blue, $61 K) and Utah / Alaska (red, both above $98 K). This pattern reflects broader economic differences, with blue states often having more urbanized, service-oriented economies, while red states rely more on agriculture, manufacturing, and natural resources.
I have visited 48 of the 50 states in the Dis United States of America. Exactly WHAT do you think I need to see?
Inaccurate. See the information I provided above.
What is the basis for this statement? What state do you actually live in in the Dis United States of America?
No, Montana does not have zero state taxes; it imposes a graduated individual income tax (up to 6. 75%) and a corporate income tax (6. 75%.
In contrast, South Dakota and Wyoming have zero individual and corporate income tax, but they are not entirely tax-free as they rely on other revenue sources:
South Dakota levies a sales tax (averaging 6. 11% combined) and property tax (effective rate 1. 17% along with taxes on cigarettes and alcohol to offset the lack of income tax.
Wyoming has a sales tax (averaging 5. 36%) and property tax (effective rate 0. 53% while also utilizing severance taxes on mineral extraction.
All three states, like all USA States, levy property taxes.
This is the [B]third time [/B]I have had to put you in check using facts.[/QUOTE]Yes, historically for every hard working, taxpaying Republican in California maybe there were two Democratic slackers. If you look at this at the individual level, Republicans made more money, until Trump came along. When he disappears and Democratic Socialists increasingly take control from the Democratic moderates, I think we'll go back to the way it was. Please note below that people who pay higher taxes have higher taxable income.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060532]Here's what Gemini Deep Research says, as to its estimates of federal tax rates borne by Democrats vs. Republicans for the last 8 presidential elections, based on exit polls. Please note that party affiliation was based on who the respondent voted for President. So when Trump ran, there were a lot of upper income, highly taxed Republicans who didn't vote for him. They would show up as Democrats or "other" in the polls.
Average estimated tax rates:
1996 Democrat: 9. 2% Republican: 17.5%.
2000 Democrat: 9. 8% Republican: 16.2%.
2004 Democrat: 8. 5% Republican: 15.4%.
2008 Democrat: 10.1% Republican: 14.8%.
2012 Democrat: 7. 4% Republican: 18.2%
2016 Democrat: 11.5% Republican: 13.9%.
2020 Democrat: 12.8% Republican: 12.1%.
2024 Democrat: 16.1% fRepublican: 11.4%.
So people voting for the Republican presidential candidate paid a lot more than their fair share up through the 2012 election. In 2016 they paid somewhat more. In 2020 the numbers were about equal. And in 2024 people voting for Kamala Harris paid a lot more than their fair share.
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Theres a link to the Gemini reply in my original post. It should provide links to the exit poll results, where you should be able to see income estimates for the Repblican vs Democrat voters.
If you adjusted for purchasing power, the red states, where costs are lower, would look better. Look at how people are voting with their feet, leaving California and New York for places like Texas, Oklahoma and Florida.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3072414]Nice. You combined your own unfounded and unsubstantiated opinion that the USA GDP Growth Rate is not declining with other peoples' opinion about what will happen by the end of this year.
[B]U.S. GDP (1960-2026)[/B]
[URL]https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/gdp-growth-rate[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gdp4q21_3rd.pdf[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bea.gov/news/2023/gross-domestic-product-fourth-quarter-and-year-2022-third-estimate-gdp-industry-and[/URL]
Yep. After the 4th Quarter of the year, the USA GDP Growth Rate for the entire year is also calculated and published:
Biden.
2021 = 6. 9%.
2022 = 2. 6%.
2023 = 2. 89%.
2024 = 2. 79%.
Trump.
2025 = 2. 11%.
2026, Q1 = 1. 27%.
Last I checked, 2. 11% is lower than 6. 9%, 2. 6%, 2. 89% and 2. 79%.
And there is nothing about a 1. 27% YOY 1st Quarter figure that suggests Trump's 2nd year of his 2nd term GDP Growth Rate will be higher than any of the 4 Biden years either.
Sorry. I looked but could not find a definition for the term "chugging along" in any of those historical records links. "Declining" and "Increasing", yes. "Chugging along", no.
Are you going to break the bad news to Canada or should I?[/QUOTE]The topic is the effect of tariffs on GDP growth. It's not how too much stimulus spending during COVID and afterwards juiced GDP, and added to the national debt.
We both agree that the tariffs affected GDP growth negatively. Tax increases (including new tariffs), like cuts in government spending, should cause GDP to be less than it would be otherwise, all else being equal.
Apparently you disagree that GDP has been"chugging along" despite the tariffs.
Please see.
Real Gross Domestic Product (GDPC1).
FRED.
St. Louis Fed.
Please note that real GDP in 2017 dollars was 24.18 trillion dollars in Q1 2026 and 23.55 trillion dollars in Q1 2025.
Also please note that while a piddly tariff on iron and steel took effect in March, 2025, most of the Trump tariffs kicked in starting in April, in the 2nd quarter of 2025. A reasonable baseline for the pre-tariff economy is Q1 2025. Over the succeeding year, to Q1 2026, the GDP growth rate was 24.18/23.55 1 = [B]2.7%[/B]. You don't need to make seasonal adjustments because you're comparing like quarters. Ask your AI agent, "What was the year-on-year GDP Growth Rate for the United States in Q1 2026" and this is what you'll get unless the ***** is lying to you.
Alternately, if you want to take the average quarter-on-quarter (QoQ) seasonally-adjusted-annualized-rate (SAAR) rate since the tariffs took effect, it's still 2.7%:
Q2 2025:3. 8%.
Q3 2025:4. 4%.
Q4 2025:0. 5%.
Q1 2026:2. 1%.
Average: 2. 7%.
I can't provide you with a link to the Bloomberg consensus estimate (average of 65 economists) I pulled for the 2 Q2026 QoQ SAAR because it's a pay site that requires Bloomberg software. But here's the estimate from the frequently followed Atlanta Fed model:
GDPNow. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.
Edit: apparently my links didnt come through, just the titles. You should be able to Google the names and go to the sites.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072424] Look at how people are voting with their feet[/QUOTE]Anyone who is a citizen of the Dis United States of America who votes with their feet and leaves the Dis United States of America pays taxes on their worldwide income to the Dis United States of America unless they renounce their citizenship.
[B]More Americans Are Giving Up USA Citizenship, New Report Finds[/B]
[URL]https://www.boundless.com/blog/more-americans-are-giving-up-us-citizenship[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spidy;3072382]What a debacle, what a dumbass MAGA president! When the dude can't even manage the re-servicing, re-doing and re-painting a reflecting pool, I don't image the country will fare any better under this presidential total incompetence.
How much of a loser MAGA president can you be?
Yet another bungled project with millions of taxpayer dollars to the fragile ego and vanity of a president who continues to fiddle while America insidiously crumbles and burns, from MAGA "values" of corruption, ineptitude and lawlessness and the continuous "fuck you" to hardworking Americans, as the MAGA president cares very little for affordable housing for those hardworking Americans, since before he was elected and so concerned about the price of bacon.[/QUOTE]Project was great and the refurbishment went well. Actually is was too good prompting the jealous Democrats to vandalize the pool. Now 7 Democrats have been arrested for vandalism and will be spending several years in prison. That is the way the violent Democrats operate. Not something you should be proud of.
The Republican Party is for the rich but they will glad you rule over you and keep you poor if you let them.
[U]Mississippi[/U] has the highest poverty rate at 18.0%, followed by [U]Louisiana[/U] at 18.9% and [U]New Mexico[/U] at 17.8% based on 2023 Census data.
The correlation between state wealth and political control is distinct:
[B]Republican-Controlled States[/B]: The majority of the poorest states are governed by Republicans. [U]Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina[/U] all have [B]Republican[/B] governors and legislatures (or supermajorities). Kentucky is unique with a Democratic governor but Republican legislative control.
The Democratic Outlier: New Mexico is the only state with complete Democratic control that ranks among the poorest, currently holding the fourth-highest poverty rate.
Wealth Correlation: Conversely, eight of the ten wealthiest states by median household income have Democratic governors.
Critics argue that [BE]Republican[/BE] policies, such as lower taxes and "Right to Work" laws, contribute to lower public investment in education and infrastructure, perpetuating poverty. Conversely, analysts note that historical factors, such as the economic legacy of the post-Civil War South, also play a significant role in the persistent economic disparities in these regions.
People who are too poor to buy shoes cannot vote with their feet and leave the states where Republicans want to keep them poor and working on the corporate government plantations that make them rich.
I was asked who in the Republican Party was racist. I provided a list that was not allowed to be published. So I present the following as all the proof I need to show me that the [B]Republican[/B] party is racist at it's core:
[QUOTE]In the weeks since Callais was decided, the decision has already spurred a flurry of mid-decade partisan gerrymandering in key states such as Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina, to advance Republican control of the House of Representatives after the 2026 elections. The Louisiana governor went so far as to cancel an active primary election and discard 45,000 already-cast ballots to redraw congressional maps. 6 We can expect that more congressional gerrymandering will occur in advance of the 2028 elections and that federal, state, and local bodies of government will come into play as post-census redistricting begins after 2030.
[URL]https://www.demos.org/policy-briefs/voting-rights-and-representation-aftermath-louisiana-v-callais[/URL][/QUOTE]Republicans want to count those who look like me as 3/5 of a person again and take away our right to vote!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072442][b]The topic is the effect of tariffs on GDP growth. It's not how too much stimulus spending during COVID and afterwards juiced GDP, and added to the national debt.[/b]
We both agree that the tariffs affected GDP growth negatively. Tax increases (including new tariffs), like cuts in government spending, should cause GDP to be less than it would be otherwise, all else being equal.
Apparently you disagree that GDP has been"chugging along" despite the tariffs.
Please see.
Real Gross Domestic Product (GDPC1).
FRED.
St. Louis Fed.
Please note that real GDP in 2017 dollars was 24.18 trillion dollars in Q1 2026 and 23.55 trillion dollars in Q1 2025.
Also please note that while a piddly tariff on iron and steel took effect in March, 2025, most of the Trump tariffs kicked in starting in April, in the 2nd quarter of 2025. A reasonable baseline for the pre-tariff economy is Q1 2025. Over the succeeding year, to Q1 2026, the GDP growth rate was 24.18/23.55 1 = [B]2.7%[/B]. You don't need to make seasonal adjustments because you're comparing like quarters. Ask your AI agent, "What was the year-on-year GDP Growth Rate for the United States in Q1 2026" and this is what you'll get unless the ***** is lying to you.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what Trump claimed his Trump Tariffs would do after inheriting a "dead" country from Biden, who so far has shown to have produced much, much better results on all counts in his 4 years than Trump did in his 5 1/2 years.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]Trump promised higher gdp growth due to his tariffs [/b]
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President Donald Trump promised that his broad "reciprocal" tariffs would trigger [b]an economic boom, reshore manufacturing jobs, and lower domestic prices.[/b] However, independent data and economic research show that his trade policies have [b]largely failed to deliver these promised benefits.[/b]
Key impacts of the tariffs include:GDP and Economic Output: Academic research by institutions like the Brookings Institution indicates that the tariffs had a minimal impact on overall U.S. economic output, adding or subtracting merely fractions of a percentage point from the national GDP.
Manufacturing and Jobs: Despite promises that factories would "come roaring back," U.S. manufacturing employment has declined since the tariffs were implemented. The administration has faced pushback from lawmakers over the negative impacts on blue-collar workers.I
nflation and Cost of Living: Rather than lowering consumer prices, the tariffs have functioned essentially as an import tax. Economists, including those from Harvard Business School, note that these costs are primarily passed on to U.S. consumers, driving up inflation by roughly three-quarters of a percentage point.
Revenue: The Congressional Budget Office and financial reports from outlets like the Wall Street Journal confirm that while the tariffs have significantly boosted federal revenue, they have not successfully replaced broader income taxes or sparked widespread, transformative economic growth.
A year on: Four ways Trump's tariffs have changed the global economy - BBCApr 2, 2569 BE 2 April 2026. Natalie ShermanBusiness reporter. EPA-EFE/Rex/Shutterstock. When US President Donald Trump launched his trade war last April, he promised a new er...BBCTrump touts 'high economic growth.' The numbers are mixed. - NBC NewsJan 21, 2569 BE Barring three recession years, 2025 was the slowest 12 months for U.S. job creation since 2003. Trump promised in the spring that his protectionist economic pol...NBC News8:21'Trump's promise that foreign companies would pay. . .turned out to be false'YouTubeCNNPresident Trump promised, again and again, that he would lower ...Jun 30, 2569 BE Starting on Day 1, we'll drive down prices and make America affordable again. - Trump Trump promised to slash healthcare costs Day 1. Instead, premiums are ...FacebookSenator Dick DurbinThe Tariff Effect: Billions in Revenue but No Economic EarthquakeAug 6, 2568 BE Quick Summary * Trump's tariffs, intended to reshape the economy, have so far only caused minor disruptions, with inflation ticking up slightly. * Tariff revenu...WSJSens. Warren, Kelly press Trump administration on effects of tariffs on manufacturingJun 23, 2569 BE Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., sent a letter, shared exclusively with CNBC, to three Trump administration Cabinet officials dinging t...CNBCTrump says tariffs led to economic growth. The facts tell another story - AP NewsFeb 6, 2569 BE Alberto Cavallo, an economist at Harvard and the author of a study on the impact of tariffs cited by Trump in his op-ed, has found that Trump's tariffs have boo...AP NewsTrump's tariffs had little impact on GDP in 2025, but raised revenue ... - ReutersMar 25, 2569 BE Trump's tariffs had little impact on GDP in 2025, but raised revenue, academic paper finds. By David Lawder. March 25, 20266:05 PM PDTUpdated March 25, 2026. Sh...ReutersChaos, fear and disappointment: Trumps tariffs turn one year oldApr 2, 2569 BE Although the tariff increase was larger than the Smoot-Hawley Tariffs of 1930, which many economists blame for deepening the Great Depression, the overall impa...EL PAS EnglishAre the tariffs working? - POLITICOMar 30, 2569 BE A Brookings Institution paper on the short-term impacts of tariffs concluded that the tariffs only had a small effect on the overall economy, with authors Pablo...PoliticoEconomic coercion, eroding trust, and the future of multilateral trade | What we are readingJan 27, 2569 BE The Washington Post reports that US ( the United States ) tariffs have failed to deliver the manufacturing boom Trump ( President Donald Trump ) promised. The W...Hinrich FoundationIn his State of the Union address, President Trump said the economy is soaring. But more than half of Americans don't agree, according to a CBS News poll. CBS News business analyst Jill Schlesinger breaks down President Trump's claims from Tuesday night, from the stock market to tariffs. https://cbsn.ws/4ceW8aaFeb 25, 2569 BE I love them. Yes. Look at that and Trump also claimed that tariffs could replace income tax. No. Absolutely not. There there's no way. We're talking about the g...Facebook[/QUOTE]Maybe if you hold Canada's hand while you assure him that A. I. And I "made up this stuff just to make Trump look bad" he'll be able to get over the trauma of it sooner.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3072478]That is exactly what Trump claimed his Trump Tariffs would do after inheriting a "dead" country from Biden, who so far has shown to have produced much, much better results on all counts in his 4 years than Trump did in his 5 1/2 years.
The A. I. Overview:
Maybe if you hold Canada's hand while you assure him that A. I. And I "made up this stuff just to make Trump look bad" he'll be able to get over the trauma of it sooner.[/QUOTE]It's like we're playing full court two on two with Elvis and Canada and you're down by their goal scoring points for them.
It looks like the AI and the Brookings Institution, the premier Democratic Party think tank, are on their side. From your post.
"Academic research by institutions like the Brookings Institution indicates that the tariffs had a minimal impact on overall USA economic output, adding or subtracting merely fractions of a percentage point from the national GDP. ".
"Albert Cavallo, an economist at Harvard and the author of a study on the impact of tariffshas found that Trump's tariffs had little impact on GDP in 2025, but raised revenue. ".
Then there's something about the tariff increase being larger than the Smoot-Hawley Tariffs of 1930, but the impact apparently wasn't significant, the quote is cut off.
So the 2025 tariffs were on track to raise $250 to $300 billion a year in federal revenue but according to AI and the Brookings Institution possibly were [B]adding[/B] to GDP? That's like having your cake and eating it too. Taxes are supposed to subtract from GDP, especially tariffs. Consumers should buy less because prices are higher, and that should hurt GDP.
I don't believe the AI and Brookings on this any more than I believe Modern Monetary Theory.
Instead of the short term effect on GDP you need to highlight inflation. Trump's making the same mistake as Biden and the Democrats did in 2021 and 2022. The tariffs and the second Iran War bumped up inflation. And worse yet, there are hints that real wages are stagnating. This is going to hurt Republicans in elections this year, just like it hurt Democrats in 2024.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072589]It's like we're playing full court two on two with Elvis and Canada and you're down by their goal scoring points for them.
It looks like the AI and the Brookings Institution, the premier Democratic Party think tank, are on their side. From your post.
"Academic research by institutions like the Brookings Institution indicates that the tariffs had a minimal impact on overall USA economic output, adding or subtracting merely fractions of a percentage point from the national GDP. ".
"Albert Cavallo, an economist at Harvard and the author of a study on the impact of tariffshas found that Trump's tariffs had little impact on GDP in 2025, but raised revenue. ".
Then there's something about the tariff increase being larger than the Smoot-Hawley Tariffs of 1930, but the impact apparently wasn't significant, the quote is cut off.[/QUOTE]Next thing the 3 of you will be insisting is that Trump's jobs creation numbers are "The Best Ever, Nobody's Seen Anything Like It"!
And that his 4. 2% CPI Rate of Inflation is lower than the 3. 0% he inherited from Biden. "Nobody's Seen Anything Like It"!
Or that for all his jobs creation failures and near zero infrastructure improvement, he still managed to add to the debt at the fastest rate of any president in USA History.
When any one of you 3 MAGAs finally produce a credible link showing that GDP Growth for 2025 was HIGHER than the Third Revision figures I provided credible links for 2021,2022, 2023 and 2024 rather than unsubstantiated opinions about it, I'll be quite impressed. And I assure you that is the biggest emotional reaction I will have ever conjured up about anything you guys have ever posted supposedly but never successfully refuting my points about consistently far superior economic policy and stewardship results for Dem presidents vs weak to disatrous Repub presidents' results going back 100 years.
Since the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media simply cannot formulate the words, "Kudos to President Biden's CHIPS and Science Act for at least making it look like Trump "economy" isn't a total flop on all fronts again" or anything like it and Trump and his MAGAs damn sure never will, allow me:
[QUOTE][b]Is the CHIPS and Science Act driving the market on chips industry?[/b]
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Yes, the CHIPS and Science Act is a major driving force in the semiconductor market, acting as the premier U.S. industrial policy to revitalize domestic manufacturing and research. It has successfully spurred hundreds of billions of dollars in private investments and reshaping regional industry supply chains.
The market is being driven in three specific ways:
Massive Private Investment: The promise of $39 billion in manufacturing incentives and a 25% tax credit has triggered nearly $400 billion in private industry investments in U.S.-based semiconductor facilities.
Research and Workforce Development: The act allocates $13 billion for advanced research and development (R&D) and workforce training programs, aiming to secure long-term U.S. competitiveness in cutting-edge computing and AI technologies.
Supply Chain Localization: Driven by national security priorities and geopolitical concerns, the act is localizing supply chains, prompting major industry players to build mega-fabs in states like Arizona and New York.
If you'd like, let me know if you want to explore:Specific companies and suppliers receiving CHIPS Act fundingState-by-state economic impacts and new mega-fab locationsHow the act compares to global semiconductor initiativesI can provide more detailed information tailored to those specific areas.The CHIPS Act: How U.S. Microchip Factories Could Reshape the EconomyOct 8, 2567 BE In 2022, President Joe Biden signed into law the Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors (CHIPS) and Science Act. The legislation directs hundreds...Council on Foreign RelationsDoes the CHIPS and Science Act Argue for Industrial Policy?Aug 25, 2568 BE Key Points * Industrial policy's costs are knownwaste, corruption, and distorted markets. A new set of potential gains has emerged in the form of reduced vulne...Center for Technology, Science, and EnergyInnovation Lightbulb: Tracking CHIPS Act Incentives - CSISApr 25, 2568 BE In August 2022, Congress passed the bipartisan CHIPS and Science Act (CHIPS Act) to revitalize U.S. semiconductor research and manufacturing and drive innovatio...CSIS | Center for Strategic and International StudiesWhich market will dominate the semiconductor industry in ... - LSE BlogsMay 29, 2569 BE America's share of global chip manufacturing fell from approximately 37 per cent in the early 1990s to around 12 per cent today, even as American firms retain c...The London School of Economics and Political ScienceWhy Micron Is Betting Big on New York Chips - WSJJun 30, 2569 BE Gov. Kathy Hochul and the Legislature reinforced those advantages through the 2022 NY Green Chips Act, which led to up to $5.8 billion in incentives for the Mic...WSJThe Politics of Semiconductors in 2025Jan 24, 2568 BE Driving Localization Through Incentives Governments are focused on initiatives to localize semiconductor production. The US CHIPS Act, European semiconductor fu...PublitekCHIPS and Science Act - WikipediaThe law constitutes an industrial policy initiative which takes place against the background of a perceived AI Cold War between the US and China, as artificial ...Wikipedia[/QUOTE][B]Record chip rally adds $2 trillion in combined value to Micron, Intel and AMD in Q2[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/30/ai-chip-rally-in-q2-adds-2-trillion-in-value-to-micron-intel-amd-.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[B]Dow jumps 100 points to close out best first half in 5 years; Nasdaq posts best quarter since 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/29/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]The moves higher were supported by a rise in chip stocks. Shares of Nvidia gained 2.6%, while Advanced Micro Devices added 7.7% and Intel advanced 6%. The VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH) climbed more than 3%, putting its year-to-date gain at 82%.
Tuesday marked the final day of the first half and the second quarter.
[B]The Dow gained 8.9% in the first six months of the year, posting its best first-half performance since 2021, when it jumped 12.7%. The S&P 500 climbed 9.6% in the first half, while the Nasdaq outperformed with a more than 12% advance. Additionally, the Russell 2000 gained almost 22% for its best first half since the first six months of 1991.[/b][/QUOTE]Since it becomes abundantly clear by the day that this kind of positive result for America never, never would have happened without them, I'm sure the USA Stock Market-watchers and USA GDP Growth-watchers here and elsewhere will happily and gratefully join me in a very heartfelt "Thanks, Joe, Kamala and the Dems in Congress who made this happen"!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072066]Well, Ive recently read a couple of articles about children dying in cars from heat in France. Maybe the French need to get over the fear of pollution, climate change and catching cold, and leave their engines running and air conditioning on when kids are in the car.[/QUOTE]You mean the French are going to admit that they are wrong? LOL. That is as likely as Democrats doing so.
Only the French could have thousands dying in a heat wave and brag about their not having air conditioning. After debating Spidy, there are things I have learned about electricity generation. You want baseline usage rates to stabilize a grid. It is actually good for people to be charging their batteries at night and on the weekends as too little power being drawn from the grid is as much a problem as too much. So if you use solar or wind during the day and the grid at night, you really are not doing much in the way of carbon emissions.
And maybe just maybe you should revisit the issue when the technology gets better? Nah, why? You cannot tell the French anything. So my RV has this loud big GE AC unit and look at the numbers: [URL]https://www.bigbearvans.com/blog-detail/how-many-watts-does-a-camper-ac-use-a-complete-breakdown[/URL]
Up to 4000 watts per hour to get it going and then up to 2000 watts per hour, and it is loud to boot. To prevent the massive power surge when starting up, there is a device called a soft starter that can reduce those huge initial surges and cut energy usage up to 70%.
Then you are seeing 12 v AC units come into play now. You can see a breakdown of the most efficient RV units on the planet in this video and go to the 7:47 mark to see how much power they consume. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CXCWdxj22Q[/URL]
The amount the lower 12 volt AC unit puts out is a tiny 671 watts per hour.
Then you have the mini split AC systems I see being used in Colombia and Mexico and they cool very well and can use as little as 400 watts per hour.
But wait there is more! You can even take a 400 watt portable AC unit in your tent when camping if you desire: [URL]https://cybertake.com/products/s2-pro?srsltid=AfmBOopt_qYZAMvRmHk0uhAJd10bOfPJNT-9OcM8k62fGgNaTe5Wz78T[/URL]
Or you can do as the super intelligent French do and die of heat stroke instead of considering using AC that is up to 90% more efficient.
BTW, is it possible the French are thinner because they smoke more? It is funny seeing all the world come to the USA for the world cup and rave about the food especially the BBQ. For all their food snobbery, I did not have one decent piece of meat the whole time I was in France, and I have been there for months at a time. The old USSR had better steak than France did. French food is so overrated!
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072589]It's like we're playing full court two on two with Elvis and Canada and you're down by their goal scoring points for them.[/QUOTE]Maybe you can stop with the simple taxes / tariffs are bad m'kay attitude you both have. Let's start with the simple numbers. Average tax rate on American goods sent to China per Gemini is 31%. Before Trump, 40% of packages coming from China were taxed at a rate of 0% as they qualified for the de minimums option.
I had a sugar baby ask me to buy her some lingerie stuff from Shein and I was blown away at how cheap the prices were and at the quality. So of course, Victoria's Secret went bankrupt competing with Shein.
But, but, but prices are going to up if you put tariffs on lingerie, Elvis. Big Fucking deal. Then I buy my sugar baby two sets of lingerie instead of three. If higher prices sabotage demand, then higher prices will not hold.
Then look at the automobile market. Oh brother! If the dumb Dems applied their anti tariff rhetoric to the auto industry, they would lose every presidential election for the next 100 years. Withdrawing tariffs would let the Chinese dump their cars into our market which would be devastating to the middle class in the rust belt states.
And China forced the world's automakers to pair with a Chinese company to access the auto market in China. This was done such that the Chinese could steal the secrets of those companies and then produce autos on their own. At first, their cars sucked, but now the Chinese cars are fantastic. Of course, the CCP is in massive debt and subsidizing every Chinese vehicle sold.
So the Chinese plan with cars was to steal the technology of foreign rivals and then use dirt cheap labor and government subsidies to drive down the price of cars so low that you put your competitors out of business and then jack up the prices of your cars when there is no alternative. Tariffs are in place to stop the Chinese from committing this evil plan.
But tariffs are taxes, Elvis, M'kay. Well, if you have all the auto companies going out of business and all their workers going on unemployment, everyone's taxes in the USA are going to go up to support their unemployment ETC which means fewer $ in YOUR pocket.
I don't get why anyone thinks China taxing us at 31% and our taxing China at 0% is a good idea. The Dems were just against tariffs because Trump was for them. Like everything else, the current Democratic position is whatever Trump is for, do the opposite no matter how stupid it is.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3072471]The Republican Party is for the rich but they will glad you rule over you and keep you poor if you let them.
[U]Mississippi[/U] has the highest poverty rate at 18.0%, followed by [U]Louisiana[/U] at 18.9% and [U]New Mexico[/U] at 17.8% based on 2023 Census data.
The correlation between state wealth and political control is distinct:
[B]Republican-Controlled States[/B]: The majority of the poorest states are governed by Republicans. [U]Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina[/U] all have [B]Republican[/B] governors and legislatures (or supermajorities). Kentucky is unique with a Democratic governor but Republican legislative control.
The Democratic Outlier: New Mexico is the only state with complete Democratic control that ranks among the poorest, currently holding the fourth-highest poverty rate.
Wealth Correlation: Conversely, eight of the ten wealthiest states by median household income have Democratic governors.
Critics argue that [BE]Republican[/BE] policies, such as lower taxes and "Right to Work" laws, contribute to lower public investment in education and infrastructure, perpetuating poverty. Conversely, analysts note that historical factors, such as the economic legacy of the post-Civil War South, also play a significant role in the persistent economic disparities in these regions.
People who are too poor to buy shoes cannot vote with their feet and leave the states where Republicans want to keep them poor and working on the corporate government plantations that make them rich.
I was asked who in the Republican Party was racist. I provided a list that was not allowed to be published. So I present the following as all the proof I need to show me that the [B]Republican[/B] party is racist at it's core:
Republicans want to count those who look like me as 3/5 of a person again and take away our right to vote![/QUOTE]I have never lived in and rarely visited the American south, so I can not speak to it. There's probably some truth there in what you say.
I'm a product of a part of Texas that's more Midwest than south. And have had ties to Wyoming, Colorado and several states in the Midwest. So mostly Republican areas. My perception is way different than yours. The city where I lived for the majority of my life had Republican leadership at every level, city, county, state, since 1995. Government is efficient and cost effective. Costs are about average for the disunited states, but income is much higher. We have the highest GDP per capita of any city in USA. Like I told you before, there are more Hispanics than whites. And most people, regardless of race, vote Republican. Trump won by 60 points in the last election. At the grade school level, we underperform, for the same reason that California does. There are a lot of kids who start out in bilingual classes. But on the CCMR test, which high school seniors take, we're above average. Taxes are indeed lower than in deep blue America. Investment though is high, and unemployment low.
I don't buy that the majority of Republicans are racists, where I've been anyway. I asked ChatGPT about that, and the only hard numbers it came up with were from this Pew survey. 54% of Republicans queried said Blacks and Hispanics face more discrimination than whites.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/05/20/how-much-discrimination-do-americans-say-groups-face-in-the-u-s/[/URL]
Now, unfortunately in his quest to make the GOP a big tent party, Trump has taken in some groups he shouldn't have. The Trump administration is taking anti-DEI too far. Hegseth is way out in left field. Trump never should have appointed him Secretary of War, and the Senate never should have confirmed him. If I had three job candidates who were well qualifed, one white, one black, and one Hispanic, I'd pick the one with the biggest tits. Failing that, if I chose the black or the Hispanic, for purposes of diversity or because I figured she had to work harder to get to where she is, government has no (expletive deleted) business telling me I can't hire her.
Admittedly it's probably not fair to go back to Lincoln. But until the Donald came along, I'the argue the majority of major league Republicans were anti-racist. People like George W. Bush, Jack Kemp, Tim Scott, Will Hurd, Larry Hogan, and the Marquesa's beloved John McCain and Mitt Romney condemned racism and bigotry whenever they saw it. I don't think you're being fair to Good Old Time Republicans.
As to the 3/5 of a man thing, the Republican Party doesn't give a rat's ass that you're black. It wants to give you 60% of a vote because you're a Democrat. If you were a Republican it would want you to have at least 2 or 3 votes.
As to the gerrymandering, IMO they should assign districting to a computer program, and do it in a way that maximizes the contiguity of Congressional districts. That said Democrats have gotten away with murder, since at least 1946. They've gotten a lot more Congressional seats than they deserved based on the House popular vote. See the last column here, [URL]https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalstats_ch2_tbl2.pdf[/URL].
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3072632]You mean the French are going to admit that they are wrong? LOL. That is as likely as Democrats doing so.
Only the French could have thousands dying in a heat wave and brag about their not having air conditioning. After debating Spidy, there are things I have learned about electricity generation. You want baseline usage rates to stabilize a grid. It is actually good for people to be charging their batteries at night and on the weekends as too little power being drawn from the grid is as much a problem as too much. So if you use solar or wind during the day and the grid at night, you really are not doing much in the way of carbon emissions.
And maybe just maybe you should revisit the issue when the technology gets better? Nah, why? You cannot tell the French anything. So my RV has this loud big GE AC unit and look at the numbers: [URL]https://www.bigbearvans.com/blog-detail/how-many-watts-does-a-camper-ac-use-a-complete-breakdown[/URL]
Up to 4000 watts per hour to get it going and then up to 2000 watts per hour, and it is loud to boot. To prevent the massive power surge when starting up, there is a device called a soft starter that can reduce those huge initial surges and cut energy usage up to 70%.
Then you are seeing 12 v AC units come into play now. You can see a breakdown of the most efficient RV units on the planet in this video and go to the 7:47 mark to see how much power they consume. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CXCWdxj22Q[/URL]
The amount the lower 12 volt AC unit puts out is a tiny 671 watts per hour.
Then you have the mini split AC systems I see being used in Colombia and Mexico and they cool very well and can use as little as 400 watts per hour.
But wait there is more! You can even take a 400 watt portable AC unit in your tent when camping if you desire: [URL]https://cybertake.com/products/s2-pro?srsltid=AfmBOopt_qYZAMvRmHk0uhAJd10bOfPJNT-9OcM8k62fGgNaTe5Wz78T[/URL]
Or you can do as the super intelligent French do and die of heat stroke instead of considering using AC that is up to 90% more efficient.
BTW, is it possible the French are thinner because they smoke more? It is funny seeing all the world come to the USA for the world cup and rave about the food especially the BBQ. For all their food snobbery, I did not have one decent piece of meat the whole time I was in France, and I have been there for months at a time. The old USSR had better steak than France did. French food is so overrated![/QUOTE]There are a couple of recent WSJ editorials that absolutely pillory French attitudes towards air conditioning. France gets 70% of its electricity from nuclear and a lot of the rest from solar and wind. So even if you're a bsc climate change fanatic, it doesn't make sense. You're not demonstrably reducing carbon emissions by foregoing ac. A lot of French believe air conditioning is unhealthy. They've got that ass backwards. And some neighborhoods ban it because they think it makes the architecture less appealing.
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[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072648]There are a couple of recent WSJ editorials that absolutely pillory French attitudes towards air conditioning. France gets 70% of its electricity from nuclear and a lot of the rest from solar and wind. So even if you're a bsc climate change fanatic, it doesn't make sense. You're not demonstrably reducing carbon emissions by foregoing ac. A lot of French believe air conditioning is unhealthy. They've got that ass backwards. And some neighborhoods ban it because they think it makes the architecture less appealing.[/QUOTE]When you are fit and healthy, you don't need AC everywhere, to catch bad cold in hot Summer. Just a nightmare for me in USA, when everywhere you feel in a fridge for meat, when in Summer. If people didn't eat and drink American shits, they would be much more healthy and strong. How many obese die in USA per year? Since 2003, all residences for seniors have a room with AC. Don't you know solar or wind systems are built in China making big pollution, when big pollution made by China or for transport are above our head everyday. Big pollution killing so many, high heat, tornados, hurricanes, rivers going crazy, making billions of damages and killing many, are because of countries like China or USA which make half pollution, killing our planet. Trump is so ignorant also for this.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3072637]Maybe you can stop with the simple taxes / tariffs are bad m'kay attitude you both have. Let's start with the simple numbers. Average tax rate on American goods sent to China per Gemini is 31%. Before Trump, 40% of packages coming from China were taxed at a rate of 0% as they qualified for the de minimums option.
I had a sugar baby ask me to buy her some lingerie stuff from Shein and I was blown away at how cheap the prices were and at the quality. So of course, Victoria's Secret went bankrupt competing with Shein.
But, but, but prices are going to up if you put tariffs on lingerie, Elvis. Big Fucking deal. Then I buy my sugar baby two sets of lingerie instead of three. If higher prices sabotage demand, then higher prices will not hold.
Then look at the automobile market. Oh brother! If the dumb Dems applied their anti tariff rhetoric to the auto industry, they would lose every presidential election for the next 100 years. Withdrawing tariffs would let the Chinese dump their 🚘 into our market which would be devastating to the middle class in the rust belt states.
And China forced the world's automakers to pair with a Chinese company to access the auto market in China. This was done such that the Chinese could steal the secrets of those companies and then produce autos on their own. At first, their cars sucked, but now the Chinese cars are fantastic. Of course, the CCP is in massive debt and subsidizing every Chinese vehicle sold.
So the Chinese plan with cars was to steal the technology of foreign rivals and then use dirt cheap labor and government subsidies to drive down the price of cars so low that you put your competitors out of business and then jack up the prices of your cars when there is no alternative. Tariffs are in place to stop the Chinese from committing this evil plan.
But tariffs are taxes, Elvis, M'kay. Well, if you have all the auto companies going out of business and all their workers going on unemployment, everyone's taxes in the USA are going to go up to support their unemployment ETC which means fewer $ in YOUR pocket.
I don't get why anyone thinks China taxing us at 31% and our taxing China at 0% is a good idea. The Dems were just against tariffs because Trump was for them. Like everything else, the current Democratic position is whatever Trump is for, do the opposite no matter how stupid it is.[/QUOTE]First, yeah, Democrats used to favor tariffs more than Republicans and the fact they don't now has a lot to do with Trump favoring them.
Trade is not a zero sum game. Both sides win. In trade wars both sides lose. Trump's escalation of tariffs on China in 2025 made about as much sense as Hamas' attack on Israel in October, 2023.
In 2024, Chinese exports to the USA as a % of its GDP were 2.8%, very small. Trump didn't have as much leverage as he thought over the Chinese. On the other hand, the USA was almost totally dependent on China for various raw materials and products, like rare earth compounds, rare earth magnets, certain metals and batteries, semiconductor inputs and drugs. China had the USA by the balls.
So in 2025, Trump goes and escalates the headline tariffs on China to 145%. China retaliates with higher tariffs on American goods and shuts off certain essential exports to the USA. Fortunately Trump's not nearly as inflexible as Hamas, and China's not nearly as hard ass as Israel, so both sides backed down. But China could have decimated our defense, auto and tech industries for at least 2 or 3 years. The USA did not have the cards.
In 2017 before Trump started the First Trade War, China's trade weighted average tariff on USA goods was 3.8%. The USA's weighted average on Chinese goods was 1. 66%. As you said, the Chinese average tariff on USA goods now sits at 31.9%, and the USA's tariff on Chinese goods sits at 47.5%.
So did the Trade Wars bring China to its knees? Did they help increase USA manufacturing output? Did they reduce the USA Trade deficit? Hell no to all.
At the start of all this, in 2016, 18.4% of Chinese exports were to the USA. Meaning about 81.6% were to the rest of the world. Yes, the figure has gone down to 11% from 18.4%. But China just started exporting more to the rest of the world and less to the USA. Chinese exports have risen about 60%, after adjusting for inflation, since 2016.
USA Manufacturing value added in 2016 was 10.8% as a % of GDP. Now it's 9.4%. Most research indicates America's manufacturing output is probably now LESS than it would be without the Trade Wars. The tariffs raised costs for USA Factories that use imports, making them less competitive.
And as to the trade deficit, it was 2.7% of GDP in 2016, and now it's about 2.9%. The trade deficit has gone up.
I actually know a little about Victoria's Secret and the viability of shoe manufacturing in the USA. Not so much about EV's though, certainly not compared to you or Spidy. You have some misconceptions. I'll be back with more later.
This is a forum about sex after all, and it's all tariffs this, and economics that! The reflecting pool is neon green like mountain dew. Just enjoy it!
Anyway, who's buying NFLX stock this week? I'm tellin ya guys, it's bottoming. This is it. Sell all your damn crypto and go all in on NFLX. You won't regret it.
You'll be thanking me in 4 months. It's around the low 70's now, in the next coupla months it'll be in the 115 range, just you wait. Even polymarket will have to agree soon enough.
This is not GME or AMC or any of those stupid to the moon ape nonsense.
How do you like them apples?
I hope all 49% of the American electorate that voted for Trump or some useless third party candidate that still helped Trump win has been riding the wave of the one bright spot in Trump's otherwise dismal 2nd term economy; the USA Stock Market "chugging along" thanks to Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and the Dems in Congress seeing to it that Biden's 2022 CHIPS and Science Act was passed to put America and Americans First.
At least the first year and one more quarter of Trump's 2nd term he could coast on the stimulative benefit of that legislation. But going forward? Nobody knows. Incoming Repub presidents rarely coast on the tremendous positive economic trajectories they inherit from the outgoing Dem much more than a year before they finally have to pass something themselves that inevitably crashes the economy. So it could be the lingering negative effects of Trump's Big Beautiful Abomination Bill for Billionaires and Fuck Everyone Else will continue to provide enough downward pressure to do it.
And his across-the-board tariffs, which, as I fully documented at the time, are known to start increasing prices all through the supply-chains just from a potus promising or threatening to enact them, months before any of them are actually enacted. That's how it works in the Real World, folks. Put away your academic theories.
And then there's Trump's "anti-Biden" immigration policies. Which studies have proven to depress the creation of private-sector jobs for USA Citizens, increase the rate of inflation and the price of almost everything.
Oh well.
We tried.
Hey, we've even got another "Worst since a previous Repub economic disaster" citation in there! LOL. See it highlighted.
[B]U.S. economy added 57,000 jobs in June, less than expected; unemployment rate at 4.2%[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/02/jobs-report-june-2026-.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]The U.S. economy saw job creation cool sharply heading into the summer, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Thursday.
Nonfarm payrolls for June increased by a seasonally adjusted 57,000 for the month, slower than the downwardly revised 129,000 added in May and worse than the 115,000 Dow Jones consensus forecast.
The move lower was largely due to a slump in the labor force participation rate, which dropped 0.3 percentage point to 61.5%, [b]the lowest since March 2021.[/b] Household employment plummeted during the month, with 507,000 fewer people reported at work. A broader unemployment measure that includes discouraged workers and those holding part-time jobs for economic reasons declined by 0.2 percentage point to 7.9%.
Prior months also saw significant downward revisions the May total, which had been much stronger than economists had anticipated, was cut by 43,000, while Aprils figure came down 31,000 to 148,000 as the report showed labor market growth significantly slower than previously thought.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canada;3072453]Project was great and the refurbishment went well. Actually is was too good prompting the jealous Democrats to vandalize the pool. Now 7 Democrats have been arrested for vandalism and will be spending several years in prison. That is the way the violent Democrats operate. Not something you should be proud of.[/QUOTE]While China targets 40% penetration for new-energy heavy trucks by 2030, is developing breakthrough clean-tech sodium-ion battery for heavy-duty trucks, a technology that could dramatically reduce dependence on diesel while lowering battery costs for the world's trucking sectors, the United States faces yet another wave of bankruptcies, especially in the freight and trucking industries.
So while electrostates like China is developing clean-tech, that helps the freight and trucking industries solve their business economics, [B]the MAGA Fuhrer, again, "fiddles" in bogus conspiracies, this time it's "reflecting pool conspiracies". [/B] Meanwhile trucking companies go bankrupt at rate 31% higher in early 2026 than during the same period in 2025, from his US / Israel war against Iran.
FAW (FAW Jiefang, China) just recently completed a successful 15,000 km, seven-month real-world test of a heavy-duty semi-truck powered by a 339 kWh sodium-ion battery pack developed with HiNa Battery Technology [URL]https://battery-tech.net/battery-markets-news/faw-jiefang-completes-15000-km-sodium-ion-heavy-truck-trial/[/URL]
2026 the Year of the Battery.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3072778][b]All this trade talk is so boring [/b]
This is a forum about sex after all, and it's all tariffs this, and economics that![/QUOTE][B][i]Boring?... to some maybe! [/i][/B] But, not to MAGA folks like Tiny 12 and Elvis 2008, for all their their talk, bloviation and artificial praise surrounding the MAGA Fuhrer's so called slight uptick in GDP, since he took office, I wouldn't call it boring at all. I thought, if anything it was mildly amusing!
Meaning, it is going to be ridiculously hilarious, to watch MAGA Repubs, sell a [I]"slight uptick in GDP",[/I] their beleaguered voters and constituents, facing (1) higher grocery prices, (2) electrical bills, (3) gas / diesel prices, (4) unaffordable housing and (5) mortgage rates, (6) the billions of in "pick-pocketed" or (7) wasted taxpayer money on reflecting pools, from (8) an out-of-control and corrupt MAGA admin, as the toll of (9) unwanted death and injuries to their beloved sons and daughters mount from (10) multiple illegal and unsanctioned wars.
It should be very interesting as Repubs sell that [I]"slight uptick in GDP",[/I] piece of inconsequential Trumponomics data point, to voters come November. Yeah, can't wait to see how that goes over with voters!
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3072778]The reflecting pool is neon green like mountain dew. Just enjoy it![/QUOTE]LOL! Perhaps the MAGA Fuhrer should have just poured Mountain Dew in the pool, instead of again wasting tens of millions of tax payers money on yet another vanity project, to payback and payoff his rich cronies.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072727]First, yeah, Democrats used to favor tariffs more than Republicans and the fact they don't now has a lot to do with Trump favoring them.
Trade is not a zero sum game. Both sides win. In trade wars both sides lose. Trump's escalation of tariffs on China in 2025 made about as much sense as Hamas' attack on Israel in October, 2023.
In 2024, Chinese exports to the USA as a % of its GDP were 2.8%, very small. Trump didn't have as much leverage as he thought over the Chinese. On the other hand, the USA was almost totally dependent on China for various raw materials and products, like rare earth compounds, rare earth magnets, certain metals and batteries, semiconductor inputs and drugs. China had the USA by the balls.
So in 2025, Trump goes and escalates the headline tariffs on China to 145%. China retaliates with higher tariffs on American goods and shuts off certain essential exports to the USA. Fortunately Trump's not nearly as inflexible as Hamas, and China's not nearly as hard ass as Israel, so both sides backed down. But China could have decimated our defense, auto and tech industries for at least 2 or 3 years. The USA did not have the cards.
In 2017 before Trump started the First Trade War, China's trade weighted average tariff on USA goods was 3.8%. The USA's weighted average on Chinese goods was 1. 66%. As you said, the Chinese average tariff on USA goods now sits at 31.9%, and the USA's tariff on Chinese goods sits at 47.5%.
So did the Trade Wars bring China to its knees? Did they help increase USA manufacturing output? Did they reduce the USA Trade deficit? Hell no to all.
At the start of all this, in 2016, 18.4% of Chinese exports were to the USA. Meaning about 81.6% were to the rest of the world. Yes, the figure has gone down to 11% from 18.4%. But China just started exporting more to the rest of the world and less to the USA. Chinese exports have risen about 60%, after adjusting for inflation, since 2016..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tiny12;3072727]Trade is not a zero sum game. Both sides win. In trade wars both sides lose.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know that is what is taught in university classes. Look at tariffs that exist on Chinese cars. I do not see two sides. I see the American consumer, American government, Chinese government, autoworkers, auto suppliers ETC. That economists limit sides to just two shows that their agenda and argument is restricted to government sides.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072727]Trump didn't have as much leverage as he thought over the Chinese. On the other hand, the USA was almost totally dependent on China for various raw materials and products, like rare earth compounds, rare earth magnets, certain metals and batteries, semiconductor inputs and drugs. China had the USA by the balls.[/QUOTE]And here you go contradicting your own argument. Hey, let's just leave production of key goods and services to China and the CCCP where it is cheaper. Both sides win right? China gets jobs, and the American consumer pays less. Whoops!
What really cracks me up though is how many Americans and Europeans just suck up the Chinese and Russian propaganda. Handing over our supply chain to China and the CCCP was not a win for the USA, yet your are selling it as that. You bought all the Chinese and Fauci propagnda about how Covid came from nature and how great the vaccine was. Meanwhile, while China neglgiently let Covid out and lied about how badly Covid was spreading, they let it be known that if you blamed them at all for anything related to the pandemic, they would shut off sales of personal protective equipment or PPE. Hell, we had some Dems saying blaming China for Covid was racist. Of all Tooms anti-American acts and statements, the absolute worst was calling the Covid pandemic Trump's pandemic when in reality, it was Fauci's and China's.
Meanwhile, you got Spidy bragging about China and its clean air and being an electrostate utopia. China is the world's worst polluter and he brags about how they are all in on clean energy. You cannot make this stuff up. Yes, by all means, let's keep buying all these Chinese solar panels and windmills and give up on producing energy on our own, and we once more have universities and climate scientist experts telling us how great that will be for our future. Buying Chinese solar panels and windmills is a win-win too right?
What Russia did to Europe could not have worked better if they had gone to war. Europe's initial reaction to the 1974 oil embargo was to become more self sufficient in energy, and they did so with remarkable efficiency. France in particular went all in on nukes. So the Russians finance the greenies who convince their voters to give up their nuclear power plants. Then Russia and China fund the climate change agenda and Europe changes over from nukes to solar panels and wind mills from China and natural gas from Russia. Amazingly, Europe does this while letting China build all the coal plants it wants because China is third world and poor.
Now we have the Dems and Europe telling us how evil Putin is. Europe is doing this while buying natural gas from Putin and having followed enegy policies beneficial to Russia for the last 20 years. Yeah, we need to spend more to save Europe from Putin while Europe is continuing to line Putin's pockets with money.
But seeing things with your own eyes is the ultimate rebuke of propaganda. I do not know if Trump imagined that the World Cup would do more to make a mockery of the European media than anything else, but it has. Europeans have seen that they are being lied to and have been learning among other things that AC is just not convenient but life saving. Reports in the media are saying that Europe has 4 X the number of deaths from heat stroke than America has people dying from gun violence. [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/europe-heat-wave-deaths-record-breaking-temperatures-american-gun-deaths-12110514[/URL]
And yet here we have a European dupe on here bragging about how Europe does not have AC.
Thing is I were alerted to how awesome Chinese vehicles were by somehow who sells cars for a living. Ford was terrified at how good and cheap Chinese cars were and what I saw what they were producing and how cheap the cars were, I was like, "Damn, I want one. "
But the hurdles to buying a Chinese car and bringing it to the USA are so high that for most it is not practical. Those are tariffs in action and despite all the Dems and their tariff bluster, no Dem is calling for the removal of tariffs on Chinese cars. So when I hear about people going off on Trump for tariffs, it is more TDS. Why are Trump tariffs bad but automotive tariffs good? Aren't automotive tariffs taxes too?
China is like 40% of all car sales in Chile and they are blowing away the competition in Mexico too. People raved about their Geelys and BYDs when I was in Mexico, and that is not even counting the more obscure Chinese brands. If you remove the tariffs, in the short term, the USA wins as we have lower prices and inflation from cheaper goods. However, long term, you are shipping your entire automotive base to China and putting American automotive workers on the street. And you are saying that is win-win and Trump is crazy? Come on, Tiny, open your eyes.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3072883][B][i]Boring?... to some maybe! [/i][/B] But, not to MAGA folks like Tiny 12 and Elvis 2008, for all their their talk, bloviation and artificial praise surrounding the MAGA Fuhrer's so called slight uptick in GDP, since he took office, I wouldn't call it boring at all. I thought, if anything it was mildly amusing!
Meaning, it is going to be ridiculously hilarious, to watch MAGA Repubs, sell a [I]"slight uptick in GDP",[/I] their beleaguered voters and constituents, facing (1) higher grocery prices, (2) electrical bills, (3) gas / diesel prices, (4) unaffordable housing and (5) mortgage rates, (6) the billions of in "pick-pocketed" or (7) wasted taxpayer money on reflecting pools, from (8) an out-of-control and corrupt MAGA admin, as the toll of (9) unwanted death and injuries to their beloved sons and daughters mount from (10) multiple illegal and unsanctioned wars.
It should be very interesting as Repubs sell that [I]"slight uptick in GDP",[/I] piece of inconsequential Trumponomics data point, to voters come November. Yeah, can't wait to see how that goes over with voters!
LOL! Perhaps the MAGA Fuhrer should have just poured Mountain Dew in the pool, instead of again wasting tens of millions of tax payers money on yet another vanity project, to payback and payoff his rich cronies.[/QUOTE]It happens more often than I have time to point out but we should not overlook the fact that in this economic result report we got a Daily Double dose of the ever popular "Worst results since a previous Repub economic disaster" citation!
[B]Labor force participation rate falls to lowest in 50 years, outside of Covid era[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/02/job-seekers-giving-up-labor-force-participation-rate-falls-to-lowest-in-50-years-outside-of-covid-era.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Junes drop in the unemployment rate was because of an exodus of workers from the labor force.
The labor force participation rate, which measures the working-age population of those either employed or looking for a job, fell to 61.5%, the [b]lowest since March 2021[/b], according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Excluding the Covid-era jobs market, it was the [b]lowest participation rate since June 1976.[/b]
The labor force plummeted by 720,000 in June.[/QUOTE]See the highlighted portions citing the "Worst since" Repub Trump's Pandemic economic disaster handed to Dem Joe Biden to fix AND since what would have been Repub Nixon's last year of his 2nd term as potus but was instead presided over by a Repub replacement for obvious reasons as it was handed to Dem Jimmy Carter to fix.
As always, that's pretty exciting info for anyone interested in stocking up on inarguable reasons why a vote for anyone but Dems up and down every ballot in every election is in reality a vote AGAINST great economic recoveries, great economic expansions, historic jobs creation, Peace and Prosperity and is instead a vote FOR another Great Repub Depression, another Great Repub Recession, another historic Repub jobs destruction or more Quagmire, Forever Repub Wars of Choice Based on a Repub Lie for America.
At least in those two examples it turned out to be the final year the Repub president could do serious damage to America before the incoming Dem was brought in to clean up and fix the colossal mess of everything he had made. Unfortunately, the sad news this time around is that Trump has another 2 1/2 years left to continue making a greater and greater colossal mess of everything before that blessed moment a Dem comes in to clean it up and fix it.
If it can be cleaned up and fixed this time around, that is.
That is not certain, of course. Repubs have honed their skills and have gotten better and better at destroying the American economy, national security and foreign relations in so many new and unprecedented ways over the past 100 years it is inevitable that if the American Electorate keeps giving them time and opportunities to get better and better at it they will eventually arrive at a point of accomplishing insurmountable damage to America. And these most recent couple of opportunities the Electorate has given Trump have been whoppers. Even an incoming Dem might not be able to clean up and fix the colossal mess of everthing this particular icon of all iconic classic Conservative Repubs has done and will continue to do over the next 2 1/2 years.
Oh well.
We tried.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3072927]Thing is I were alerted to how awesome Chinese vehicles were by somehow who sells cars for a living. Ford was terrified at how good and cheap Chinese cars were and what I saw what they were producing and how cheap the cars were, I was like, "Damn, I want one. "
But the hurdles to buying a Chinese car and bringing it to the USA are so high that for most it is not practical. Those are tariffs in action and despite all the Dems and their tariff bluster, no Dem is calling for the removal of tariffs on Chinese cars. So when I hear about people going off on Trump for tariffs, it is more TDS. Why are Trump tariffs bad but automotive tariffs good? Aren't automotive tariffs taxes too?
China is like 40% of all car sales in Chile and they are blowing away the competition in Mexico too. People raved about their Geelys and BYDs when I was in Mexico, and that is not even counting the more obscure Chinese brands. If you remove the tariffs, in the short term, the USA wins as we have lower prices and inflation from cheaper goods.[/QUOTE]All countries protect their industries. They do it here in Thailand. [U]CFMoto[/U] a Chinese company that make excellent motorcycles cannot be bought here in Thailand. There are two other companies manufacturing motorcycles here in Thailand so they protect those companies. I would like to buy a [U]CFMoto[/U] model here in Thailand but I can neither buy one here nor import it for a reasonable cost.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3072927]However, long term, you are shipping your entire automotive base to China and putting American automotive workers on the street.[/QUOTE]When Dis United States of America Car companies are protected from competition then the Dis United States of America Consumer gets hurt. [B]You have to buy a lower quality vehicle and pay more for it[/B].
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3072939]All countries protect their industries. They do it here in Thailand. [U]CFMoto[/U] a Chinese company that make excellent motorcycles cannot be bought here in Thailand. There are two other companies manufacturing motorcycles here in Thailand so they protect those companies. I would like to buy a [U]CFMoto[/U] model here in Thailand but I can neither buy one here nor import it for a reasonable cost.
When Dis United States of America Car companies are protected from competition then the Dis United States of America Consumer gets hurt. [B]You have to buy a lower quality vehicle and pay more for it[/B].[/QUOTE]Have you looked at Chinese four wheel EV's in Thailand? The last time I looked they could be imported into Thailand duty free. And the excise or sales tax on BEV's was very low. The Chinese EV manufacturers had to agree to build factories in Thailand to get the tariff and excise tax exemptions, which I think will phase out. Anyway, I'the think they'the be very good values.
Thailand's a pro at this. It traditionally was #2 in the world in pickup manufacturing and exports, after the USA. They did that by maintaining high tariffs and excise taxes on most imported vehicles. But the excise tax on the pickups was very low. Also the Thais encouraged investment in factories by providing exemptions from income tax and import duties (for equipment and the like) that phased out as the factories got older. Perhaps most importantly, unlike say Indonesia or Thailand, they created conditions that encouraged foreigners, like Ford and Isuzu and Toyota, to invest in Thailand. You weren't required by law to have a local partner. And the country wasn't so corrupt that you needed a local partner to bribe government officials. They tried something similar later with the ecocars, which were very small gasoline powered vehicles, that didn't work out as well. But their pickup manufacturing is still world class. And extremely competitive, as a number of manufacturers made Thailand their base for pickups.
About the last part, of your post, I agree. If you jack tariffs up to ridiculous levels on imported EV's, the USA industry will become fat and lazy, like it was before the Japanese started competing. Detroit produces much better quality cars at prices that are lower than they'the be otherwise in part because of competition by foreigners. It's reasonable to argue that anti-dumping duties, that are proportional to subsidies received by the foreigners from their governments, make sense. Or you could argue the electronics in electric vehicles could make them a security risk so you need to control for that. But allowing USA Companies to get fat and lazy by shutting out the Chinese and other foreigners entirely hurts the American consumer and the nation. Elvis and Spidy noted the USA fell far behind China in BEV's, and they're not going to get their mojo back without foreign competition.
Tariffs and subsidies sometimes make sense, but they are often used to benefit rent seeking elites at the expense of the consumer.
Your inbox is full BTW, you probably need to delete some messages.
Elvis, Victoria's Secret and Shen both get what they sell from Asian manufacturers. Neither is a manufacturer. Undoubtedly they source some of their products from the same factories. Victoria's Secret is owned by an Australian, Brett Blundy, and a number of USA And foreign institutions. Shen is owned by a Singapore national (and former PRC national) along with USA institutional investors and the UAE sovereign wealth fund. Victoria's Secret is mostly bricks and mortar and sells a higher quality product. Shen sells mostly online. If it's kicking VS's ass, it's for the same reason Amazon is kicking everybody else's ass.
The company that I believe is the largest supplier of expandable fabric and lace for Victoria's Secret products is domiciled in Hong Kong and, say, fifteen years ago produced the majority of its output in China. It also had a factory in Vietnam, which catered to Japanese brands because of tariff advantages. The company was nimble, so when Trump first imposed tariffs on China it ramped up Vietnamese production. Now they produce more from Vietnam than they do from China.
Fabric manufacturing requires a lot of capex. The company had to build additional factories in Vietnam, and hire workers who initially weren't very productive. Its supply chain (yarn and dye suppliers, etc.) was spread out and inefficient. A huge investment in Vietnam was incurred because of the tariffs, and I guess Vietnamese workers benefitted. The USA consumer sure didn't. She had to pay higher prices.
So then later on Liberation Day, April 2, 2025, Trump jacks up tariffs on Vietnam to 46%. WTF? So now what's the manufacturer supposed to do? Start building factories in Mexico and Brazil? Then how long before Trump raises the tariff on that country?
The fabric manufacturer passes its production onto a garment manufacturer. Garment manufacturing, like shoe manufacturing, is labor intensive. Maybe around 20% of the cost of gross sales is labor. The work to make garments, and shoes and toys and cheap electronics, is painstaking and repetitive. Americans don't want to do it, any more than they want to work in meat processing plants, to use SubCmdr's example. If you visit an Asian factory it would probably change your mind.
Someone told you he could set up a factory in the USA and manufacture shoes for $6 or $9 a pair or something. Unless he was talking about one piece, mickey mouse molded shoes he was blowing smoke. They, like garments, require a lot of labor. Yeah, maybe someday with AI and humanoid robots like what Tesla and Xpeng are trying to make, you will be able to lower the labor cost a lot. Until then, when the unemployment rate is 4. 2%, and when contrary to Tooms and Spidy's opinion, almost all Americans who want a job have one, why would you want to move this production to the USA? You don't want to take people away from higher value added work. We've got the highest GDP per capita in the world for any large country, by far. You don't want to slash productivity by making people assemble Iphones instead of Boeing aircraft.
For the other businesses in the textile production chain, like manufacture of artificial fiber, dyes, yarn, and fabrics, labor content isn't so high. But try building these plants in 2026 in the USA given the environmental and permitting restrictions. Yes, Trump has helped in this area, a lot. But still, why reinvent the wheel, especially when the end stage of the process, garment manufacturing, will never make sense in America?
I did a search in the political forum of another hoe board, and I was sounding the alarm about rare earth minerals back in 2018. I absolutely favor and favored subsidies and sensible tariffs to ensure access to strategic rare earth minerals, and essential products in general. I'the go a step further and tell the "not in my backyard" crowd to fuck off. Otherwise you may never see significant mining and processing of rare earths in the USA.
I'm not inclined to argue about cars. I said a few things relevant to your comments in a reply to SubCmdr. I've already shot my wad there, as you and Spidy know a lot more about Chinese BEV's than I do. I will say that trying to move the supply chain out of Mexico and Canada and entirely into the USA is nuts. Hopefully Trump's backed off that idea, if he ever had it in the first place. I'm not sure he did.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073025]Have you looked at Chinese four wheel EV's in Thailand? The last time I looked they could be imported into Thailand duty free. And the excise or sales tax on BEV's was very low. The Chinese EV manufacturers had to agree to build factories in Thailand to get the tariff and excise tax exemptions, which I think will phase out. Anyway, I'the think they'the be very good values.
Thailand's a pro at this. It traditionally was #2 in the world in pickup manufacturing and exports, after the USA. They did that by maintaining high tariffs and excise taxes on most imported vehicles. But the excise tax on the pickups was very low. Also the Thais encouraged investment in factories by providing exemptions from income tax and import duties (for equipment and the like) that phased out as the factories got older. Perhaps most importantly, unlike say Indonesia or Thailand, they created conditions that encouraged foreigners, like Ford and Isuzu and Toyota, to invest in Thailand. You weren't required by law to have a local partner. And the country wasn't so corrupt that you needed a local partner to bribe government officials. They tried something similar later with the ecocars, which were very small gasoline powered vehicles, that didn't work out as well. But their pickup manufacturing is still world class. And extremely competitive, as a number of manufacturers made Thailand their base for pickups..[/QUOTE]For the heads up! My mailbox was indeed full. Simply not paying any attention to it.
I agree with you the Chinese EVs are an excellent value. But I don't want one. Need a motorcycle because of traffic and a desire to ride. But your point is accurate. BTW, I can by a motor scooter made by the China man. And I actually own a two wheeled EV made in Thailand by a Thai Company. It's fine. But I don't like the battery tech. Guess I am just old school. Living an apartment, charging requirements prevent me from owning a four wheeled EV and the larger 2 wheeled ones.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073026]Elvis, Victoria's Secret and Shen both get what they sell from Asian manufacturers. Neither is a manufacturer. Undoubtedly they source some of their products from the same factories. Victoria's Secret is owned by an Australian, Brett Blundy, and a number of USA And foreign institutions. Shen is owned by a Singapore national (and former PRC national) along with USA institutional investors and the UAE sovereign wealth fund. Victoria's Secret is mostly bricks and mortar and sells a higher quality product. Shen sells mostly online. If it's kicking VS's ass, it's for the same reason Amazon is kicking everybody else's ass.
The company that I believe is the largest supplier of expandable fabric and lace for Victoria's Secret products is domiciled in Hong Kong and, say, fifteen years ago produced the majority of its output in China. It also had a factory in Vietnam, which catered to Japanese brands because of tariff advantages. The company was nimble, so when Trump first imposed tariffs on China it ramped up Vietnamese production. Now they produce more from Vietnam than they do from China.
Fabric manufacturing requires a lot of capex. The company had to build additional factories in Vietnam, and hire workers who initially weren't very productive. Its supply chain (yarn and dye suppliers, etc.) was spread out and inefficient. A huge investment in Vietnam was incurred because of the tariffs, and I guess Vietnamese workers benefitted. The USA consumer sure didn't. She had to pay higher prices.
So then later on Liberation Day, April 2, 2025, Trump jacks up tariffs on Vietnam to 46%. WTF? So now what's the manufacturer supposed to do? Start building factories in Mexico and Brazil? Then how long before Trump raises the tariff on that country?
The fabric manufacturer passes its production onto a garment manufacturer. Garment manufacturing, like shoe manufacturing, is labor intensive. Maybe around 20% of the cost of gross sales is labor. The work to make garments, and shoes and toys and cheap electronics, is painstaking and repetitive. Americans don't want to do it, any more than they want to work in meat processing plants, to use SubCmdr's example. If you visit an Asian factory it would probably change your mind.
Someone told you he could set up a factory in the USA and manufacture shoes for $6 or $9 a pair or something. Unless he was talking about one piece, mickey mouse molded shoes he was blowing smoke. They, like garments, require a lot of labor. Yeah, maybe someday with AI and humanoid robots like what Tesla and Xpeng are trying to make, you will be able to lower the labor cost a lot. Until then, when the unemployment rate is 4. 2%, and when contrary to Tooms and Spidy's opinion, almost all Americans who want a job have one, why would you want to move this production to the USA? You don't want to take people away from higher value added work. We've got the highest GDP per capita in the world for any large country, by far. You don't want to slash productivity by making people assemble Iphones instead of Boeing aircraft.[/QUOTE]That constantly changing tariff rate is one reason I gave Trump a F in execution. As for clothing, it was not just limited to that but anything that could be sent and claimed to be under $800 was not taxed one penny. That is a helluva lot stuff that you are giving over to foreign producers as American producers cannot compete with countries paying wages at 50 cents per hour. Clothing and shoes are among the least important items in that mix.
Think about all the items in your life that if they failed could kill you that cost under $800 like nuts and bolts on your car. Sure, the market can correct if it knows about an issue like mercury in Chinese dog food but what about things the market cannot see? Like spyware in all the Chinese electronics. That cannot be quantified and so the argument that free trade is beneifcial for both parties fall on its face.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073026]I did a search in the political forum of another hoe board, and I was sounding the alarm about rare earth minerals back in 2018. I absolutely favor and favored subsidies and sensible tariffs to ensure access to strategic rare earth minerals, and essential products in general. I'the go a step further and tell the "not in my backyard" crowd to fuck off. Otherwise you may never see significant mining and processing of rare earths in the USA.[/QUOTE]Yes, rare earths are not really rare or that hard to produce but building up systems to produce them takes time, and all of this was shipped off to China "because it's cheaper". And then China gets mad at us and no more rare earths. That was the same with PPE and could be with antibiotics and a whole host of other vital goods.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073026]I'm not inclined to argue about cars. I said a few things relevant to your comments in a reply to SubCmdr. I've already shot my wad there, as you and Spidy know a lot more about Chinese BEV's than I do. I will say that trying to move the supply chain out of Mexico and Canada and entirely into the USA is nuts. Hopefully Trump's backed off that idea, if he ever had it in the first place. I'm not sure he did.[/QUOTE]Well, cars are just like rare earths in that factories are incredibly difficult and time consuming to erect and once they are gone, it takes a long time to rebuild them.
What China is doing is the same Rockefeller did with standard oil. Use cheaper prices where you are losing money to put your competitor out of business. Once they are out of business, you charge whatever you want. What is even worse about China that people do not get is the CCCP does not even care about making a profit. If they did, they would not be building all the empty homes and skyscrapers that they are. They want to keep people employed and busy so they do not revolt.
Just like with the overproduction of homes, they are doing it elsewhere including with cars. What is amazing to me is how many people buy into the stupid Chinese model. If you are going into massive debt to build things that are not needed, eventually, the entire system will collapse. All that is keeping China going right now is hidiing how much debt they have from the world.
So take Ford versus Geely. If Ford sells something for $35,000, they have to make a profit, so labor costs and components have to be under $35,000. The reason I was so psyched about the Chinese car is China is putting in way over $35,000 worth of stuff in their cars that cost that amount. They are putting in top of the line seats with massagers in them, state of the art stereos, plush carpeting, expensive LED lighting ETC. You can do everything by voice control and if it were legal to command the car to give you a BJ, I bet it would do that too. There are cars in China right now that sell for $50,000 that have components in them that you only see in cars costing 4 X that amount.
Wbat made me go Tesla over Geely is right now is in Mexico the Chinese cars have not rolled out the full service driving (FSD) like Tesla has. The Chinese have it and are using it in China but they have not rolled it out in Mexico yet.
China has capacity to buiild every car in the world and because "it is cheaper" in China, you can make the argument that all cars SHOULD be made in China to benefit the consumer. The problem with that is once all the other car companies are put out of business, you are left with two scenarios. Either China raises car prices through the roof to survive and / or they fail and we have to bail out the Chinese car companies.
So yeah, I am familiar with the economic models that say trade benefits both sides. Economists have put in the exception that tariffs might be okay to be put in place with vital industries like rare earths. What I have not seen is an adjustment to any models to compensate for a competitor not giving a fuck if they make a profit which is China and the CCP right now and putting tariffs on goods produced at a loss like cars to protect a vital American industry IS rational. How Trump went about implementing tariffs was NOT.
Happy July 4th. Celebrations are massive nationwide for the patriotic Republicans. 70% of democrats / communists say they are not patriotic and will not celebrate the 4th. Republicans are enjoying the lakes and rivers, bbq's, beer, fireworks with all their friends while Democrats sulk at home watching liberal news MSN Now complain about Trump. Even liberal CCN is covering the celebration. What a great world we live in. Hundreds of thousands World Cup fans are having a great time enjoying the USA during this celebration. Democrats are hoping USA soccer team loses because they could never enjoy a win for USA while Trump is president. TDS is rampant with the democrats / communists. Fans from all over the world are raving about their stay in USA. Even the French like air conditioning in their hotel rooms. June 30, 2026 401 K's and retirement accounts hit record levels. Gas prices are dropping and will be under $3 in most red states. Of course California and several other blue states will artificially keep their prices high until after the mid terms. 35 allies of the USA are participating in the 250 celebrations but some blue states are not participating as they could never enjoy life and celebrate while Trump is president. Isn't it a great life!
[QUOTE=Canada;3073176]Happy July 4th. Celebrations are massive nationwide for the patriotic Republicans. 70% of democrats / communists say they are not patriotic and will not celebrate the 4th. Republicans are enjoying the lakes and rivers, bbq's, beer, fireworks with all their friends while Democrats sulk at home watching liberal news MSN Now complain about Trump. Even liberal CCN is covering the celebration. What a great world we live in. Hundreds of thousands World Cup fans are having a great time enjoying the USA during this celebration. Democrats are hoping USA soccer team loses because they could never enjoy a win for USA while Trump is president. TDS is rampant with the democrats / communists. Fans from all over the world are raving about their stay in USA. Even the French like air conditioning in their hotel rooms. June 30, 2026 401 K's and retirement accounts hit record levels. Gas prices are dropping and will be under $3 in most red states. Of course California and several other blue states will artificially keep their prices high until after the mid terms. 35 allies of the USA are participating in the 250 celebrations but some blue states are not participating as they could never enjoy life and celebrate while Trump is president. Isn't it a great life![/QUOTE]Yes, most Americans get poorer from inflation from Trump war in Iran, being defeated and needing to pay 300 billions to mollahs still there like before, much more than did Obama, but everything is good for Trump who makes much richer and so megaloman, even when he fail, but not understanding meaning of shame.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3073238]Yes, most Americans get poorer from inflation from Trump war in Iran, being defeated and needing to pay 300 billions to mollahs still there like before, much more than did Obama, but everything is good for Trump who makes much richer and so megaloman, even when he fail, but not understanding meaning of shame.[/QUOTE]Americans were poorer with Biden and Obama but definitely not poorer with Trump. Trump tax cuts guaranteed more money in Americans pockets even with inflation. You sweating your life away in France can't understand that Americans are far better off under Trump presidency. Everyone I know in USA will tell you the same thing. Jealous of the USA life will get you nowhere. All the French that came for the World Cup love America. Sorry you are stuck in France.
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/07/06/laura-loomer-reporter-claim-hospitalized-mitch-mcconnell-is-brain-dead/[/URL]
[URL]https://nypost.com/2026/04/09/health/ex-sen-ben-sasse-opens-up-about-life-with-stage-4-cancer/?dicbo=v2-gRtakkd[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/09/opinion/ben-sasse-death-pancreatic-cancer.html[/URL]
Karma is real.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073293]Americans were poorer with Biden and Obama but definitely not poorer with Trump. Trump tax cuts guaranteed more money in Americans pockets even with inflation. You sweating your life away in France can't understand that Americans are far better off under Trump presidency. Everyone I know in USA will tell you the same thing. Jealous of the USA life will get you nowhere. All the French that came for the World Cup love America. Sorry you are stuck in France.[/QUOTE]As Americans got poorer thanks to Trump's policies ushering in Trump's Pandemic triggering global inflation as well as that 2020 deal Trump made with OPEC to increase the price of oil and gas during the historic low demand Trump's Pandemic years until Biden fully recovered America and most of the rest of the World from both conditions, today Trump's Tariffs policies and Repub War of Choice in Iran based on a Repub Trump lie are again making Americans poorer:
[B]Inflation swallows wage growth and American workers take a huge pay cut. Safeguard your nest egg today.
June 5, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/articles/inflation-swallows-wage-growth-american-105500788.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]For the first time in three years, inflation is once again outpacing wage growth in the United States.
Consumer prices rose 3.8% annually in April 2026, while average hourly earnings increased by just 3.6%, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (1). The reversal marks the first time since April 2023 that inflation has outpaced wage growth, per Visual Capitalist (2).
Much of the recent increase in inflation has been attributed to higher energy costs tied to the ongoing conflict in Iran (3). For energy alone, costs soared 17.9% year-over-year in April (up from 12.5% just in March), a jump that Trading Economics (4) calls "the steepest annual energy increase since September 2022.[/QUOTE]Mind you, that was just early June. The Rate of Trump's Inflation is higher today.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073293]Americans were poorer with Biden and Obama but definitely not poorer with Trump. Trump tax cuts guaranteed more money in Americans pockets even with inflation. You sweating your life away in France can't understand that Americans are far better off under Trump presidency. Everyone I know in USA will tell you the same thing. Jealous of the USA life will get you nowhere. All the French that came for the World Cup love America. Sorry you are stuck in France.[/QUOTE]Don't you read 60% Americans and most artists who are rich for most, disagree with Trump behavior and politics. Who pay Trump tax? Not me. Who pay inflation in USA because of Trump? Not me, but most Americans who pay more expensive. Under cheating Trump and shameful Infantino and Pochettino, one of the worst worldcup when real soccer, the most played sport all over the world, is fucked by Trump and Infantino sucking him, even worse than under corruption in Africa. Fortunately, for justice, even they are not at their top anymore, but small Belgium easily defeated cheating USA when Balogun should never play, shame on trainer Pochettino. But Trump failed again, after Iran and Ormuz. Only him and blind, neurons limited Americans thinking he is king of the world, when not more than senile schizophrene megaloman in front of the world. Didn't you see Belgium players making fun of him, after his cheating, he really deserves. And for worldcup at home, USA team can go home very fast.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073311]As Americans got poorer thanks to Trump's policies ushering in Trump's Pandemic triggering global inflation as well as that 2020 deal Trump made with OPEC to increase the price of oil and gas during the historic low demand Trump's Pandemic years until Biden fully recovered America and most of the rest of the World from both conditions, today Trump's Tariffs policies and Repub War of Choice in Iran based on a Repub Trump lie are again making Americans poorer:
[B]Inflation swallows wage growth and American workers take a huge pay cut. Safeguard your nest egg today.
June 5, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/articles/inflation-swallows-wage-growth-american-105500788.html[/URL]
Mind you, that was just early June. The Rate of Trump's Inflation is higher today.[/QUOTE]Funny, all in USA don't have or are not able to understand same, information about tax and inflation, when I don't care about Trump tax, I don't pay his tax.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073311]As Americans got poorer thanks to Trump's policies ushering in Trump's Pandemic triggering global inflation[/QUOTE]LOL. Trump's pandemic? You lost it right there.
Global inflation? There was no inflation during the pandemic with Trump. In fact, there were so many people rushing into the dollar it was unreal. The dollar bought 25 Mexican pesos and 5000 COP in Colombia. Those numbers are 17+ and 3000+ today. There was inflation after Biden started printing up an unlimited number of dollars, and the government in their infinite stupidity shut down supply chains.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073311]as well as that 2020 deal Trump made with OPEC to increase the price of oil and gas during the historic low demand Trump's Pandemic years,[/QUOTE]There is conspiracy theory, and there is insanity. That is absolute insanity. Oil and gas demand plummeted during the pandemic. When it picked back up again, the price rose. That is simple economics. There was no deal. If you know squat, you know the OPEC members also have deals and the members cheat on them all the time.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073311]until Biden fully recovered America[/QUOTE]Yes, Biden cured the common cold. It did not naturally mutate into a less virulent form. And after curing the common cold, Biden cured cancer and made cold fusion which made our energy demands completely non carbon producing. Amazingly, the fact that Biden could not walk and chew gum at the same time during the debate was just an act, and he fooled everyone with how capable he really was.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073311]Inflation swallows wage growth and American workers take a huge pay cut. Safeguard your nest egg today.
June 5, 2026[/QUOTE]OMG. 3.6% inflation? Say it ain't so. You kind of left out the fact that the nest eggs have done well under Trump, and I just hit the pump. Gas prices were down 50 cents from last month. Oops.
As for the "inflation", maybe you do not get this, but people adjust. They work more. They shop at Walmart v the brand name grocery stores. They drive less. They use 3. 6% less stuff or work 3. 6% harder. The big part that you do not get is that this was temporary. In fact, just you wait, that inflation number will be negative a month or two from now, and you will be on to your latest Trump demonization rant, ignore lower prices, and find something else to gripe about, and we all know it.
Of course, you are missing the broader economy. If you look up jobs that pay $100,000+ a year, there are boat loads of them: real estate agents, HVAC technicians, carpet cleaners, door and window installers. A buddy of mine is in the shipping business and there are so many truck driving openings, companies were almost forced to hire illegals who could not read the language. The amount of goods being shipped and moved has never been higher.
In my world, I adjusted to the market demands, improved my skill, and the demand for my services is out of control. I could work 24 hours a day every day of the month and my hourly wage has gone up between 2 and 4 X in the last three years. So inflation is literally like pissing in the ocean.
What cracks me up is I had to deal with the griping you fossils would do when I went abroad. Don't overpay and ruin the market I was told. Yeah, why would I care? I am paying $1000 for a flight and paying $100 a night for a hotel, and I am supposed to care if I give a woman I am DTF an extra $20 to $50? I should pay her less because you lazy azzez who are not working with no debt, a pension, and assets to boot might have to pay more. Really? You boomers are so fucking selfish it is unreal.
Here is a novel idea, Tooms. Instead of looking at government and inflation and suffering from TDS, maybe you should try working 3. 6% harder or doing with 3. 6% less. Heaven forbid that you take action into your own hands and stop griping about someone else.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073311]As Americans got poorer thanks to Trump's policies ushering in Trump's Pandemic triggering global inflation as well as that 2020 deal Trump made with OPEC to increase the price of oil and gas during the historic low demand Trump's Pandemic years until Biden fully recovered America and most of the rest of the World from both conditions, today Trump's Tariffs policies and Repub War of Choice in Iran based on a Repub Trump lie are again making Americans poorer:
[B]Inflation swallows wage growth and American workers take a huge pay cut. Safeguard your nest egg today.
June 5, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/articles/inflation-swallows-wage-growth-american-105500788.html[/URL]
Mind you, that was just early June. The Rate of Trump's Inflation is higher today.[/QUOTE]Obviously you are not living in the same USA as the rest of us. The Trump tax cuts were more than the inflation and everyone retired has seen their retirement funds and savings go up dramatically. Wages are up significantly. I guess you never saved or put money into retirement so you did not benefit. But unemployment is at an all time low and everyone working is benefiting from their tax savings. Inflation is so much lower than the Biden years that few people really care about it. None of the fake news networks ever cared about inflation in Biden presidency so obviously that is where you get your fake information. Every person I know is doing better under the Trump presidency so stop your fake posts.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3073302][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/07/06/laura-loomer-reporter-claim-hospitalized-mitch-mcconnell-is-brain-dead/[/URL]
[URL]https://nypost.com/2026/04/09/health/ex-sen-ben-sasse-opens-up-about-life-with-stage-4-cancer/?dicbo=v2-gRtakkd[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/09/opinion/ben-sasse-death-pancreatic-cancer.html[/URL]
Karma is real.[/QUOTE]Two true American heroes. They're not long for this world. May God bless their immortal souls.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073176]Happy July 4th. Celebrations are massive nationwide for the patriotic Republicans. 70% of democrats / communists say they are not patriotic and will not celebrate the 4th.[/QUOTE]I was ready to call bull shit on this. But I decided to check with ChatGPT. And Dagnabit, the polls support it:
Gallup & YouGov Polling Data.
"Extremely Proud" to be American (Gallup).
Democrats: 14%.
Republicans: 70%.
View themselves as "Very Patriotic" (YouGov).
Democrats: 14%.
Republicans: 74%.
Plan to display an American flag this July 4th (Reuters / Ipsos).
Democrats: 27%.
Republicans: 64%.
I do however honestly believe the Democrats and Communists who post in this thread are among the 30% who are patriotic.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3073142]
So take Ford versus Geely. If Ford sells something for $35,000, they have to make a profit, so labor costs and components have to be under $35,000. The reason I was so psyched about the Chinese car is China is putting in way over $35,000 worth of stuff in their cars that cost that amount. They are putting in top of the line seats with massagers in them, state of the art stereos, plush carpeting, expensive LED lighting ETC. You can do everything by voice control and if it were legal to command the car to give you a BJ, I bet it would do that too. There are cars in China right now that sell for $50,000 that have components in them that you only see in cars costing 4 X that amount.
Wbat made me go Tesla over Geely is right now is in Mexico the Chinese cars have not rolled out the full service driving (FSD) like Tesla has. The Chinese have it and are using it in China but they have not rolled it out in Mexico yet.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Elvis, sincerely. You can buy Geely ADR's in a USA Brokerage account. Just looking at the numbers for 5 minutes it appears cheap. Chery, Another of the Chinese EV auto manufacturers looks dirt cheap. I may do some work on these and if the ideas pan out buy some shares. If I do, I'll post on this again.
As always, when evaluating an investment I ask myself "What would Mitt Romney do?" And I think he might buy these! Ok, not really, but this is a sure fire way to get the Marquesa riled up!
[QUOTE=Canada;3073410]Obviously you are not living in the same USA as the rest of us. The Trump tax cuts were more than the inflation and everyone retired has seen their retirement funds and savings go up dramatically. Wages are up significantly. I guess you never saved or put money into retirement so you did not benefit. But unemployment is at an all time low and everyone working is benefiting from their tax savings. Inflation is so much lower than the Biden years that few people really care about it. None of the fake news networks ever cared about inflation in Biden presidency so obviously that is where you get your fake information. Every person I know is doing better under the Trump presidency so stop your fake posts.[/QUOTE]You don't seem to live in same USA than 60% Americans who disagree with Trump, but don't you know 60% is majority. And US artists, when many should be richer than you, but against Trump, refusing to sing for him, real facts, do you know Bruce Springsteen, or Taylor Swift, so rich communists? Listen also to Clint Eastwood and so many others. I would say Trump is really lucky many no brained not able to understand money is useless when you are dead, this not only in USA, unfortunately for our world. But, our planet will kill many people, from heat, tornados, hurricanes, ground sliding, water. What Trump is not clever enough to understand, when he made much richer since he returned.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073434]Thanks Elvis, sincerely. You can buy Geely ADR's in a USA Brokerage account. Just looking at the numbers for 5 minutes it appears cheap. Chery, Another of the Chinese EV auto manufacturers looks dirt cheap. I may do some work on these and if the ideas pan out buy some shares. If I do, I'll post on this again.
As always, when evaluating an investment I ask myself "What would Mitt Romney do?" And I think he might buy these! Ok, not really, but this is a sure fire way to get the Marquesa riled up![/QUOTE]LOL. Well, you really have no rights as a shareholder in the USA really until you acquire a big stake. This reminds of the Mark Cuban classic post here, [URL]https://blogmaverick.com/2008/09/08/talking-stocks-and-money/:[/URL] In July of 1998, my partner Todd Wagner and I took our company, [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL], public with Morgan Stanley. [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] used audio and video streaming to enable companies to communicate live with customers, employees, vendors, anyone with a PC.
Part of the process of taking a new company public is something called a road show. The road show is just that. A company getting ready to sell shares visits the big mutual funds, hedge funds, pension funds – anyone who can buy millions of dollars of stock in a single order. It's a sales tour. 7 days, 63 presentations.
Prior to the road show, we put together an amazing presentation. We hired consultants to help us. We practiced and practiced. We argued about what we should and shouldn't say. We had Morgan Stanley and others ask us every possible question they could think of so we wouldn't look stupid when we sat in front of these savvy investors.
Savvy investors? I was shocked. Of the 63 companies and 400-plus participants we visited, I would be exaggerating if I said we got 10 good questions about our business and how it worked. The vast majority of people in the meetings had no clue who we were or what we did. They just knew that there were a lot of people talking about the company and they should be there.
The lack of knowledge at the meetings got to be such a joke between Todd and I that we used to purposely mess up to see if anyone noticed. Or we would have pet lines that we would make up to crack each other up. Did we ruin our chance for the IPO? Was our product so complicated that no one got it and as a result no one bought the stock? Hell no. They might not have had a clue, but that didn't stop them from buying the stock. We batted 1. 000. Every single investor we talked to placed the maximum order allowable for the stock.
On July 18,1998, [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] went public as BCST, priced at 18 dollars a share. It closed at $62.75, a gain of almost 250 percent, which at the time was the largest one day rise of a new offering in the history of the stock market. The same mutual fund managers who were completely clueless about our company placed multimillion orders for our stock. Multimillion dollar orders using your money.
Price-earnings ratios, price-sales, the present value of future cash flows, pick one. Fundamentals are merely metrics created to help stockbrokers sell stocks, and to give buyers reassurance when buying stocks. Even how profits are calculated is manipulated to give confidence to buyers.
I know that sounds crazy, but the stock market has gone from a place where investors actually own part of a company and have a say in their management, to a market designed to enrich insiders by allowing them to sell shares they buy cheaply through options. Companies continuously issue new shares to their managers without asking their existing shareholders. Those managers then leak that stock to the market a little at a time. It's unlimited dilution of existing shareholders' stakes, death by a thousand dilutive cuts. If that isn't a scam, I don't know what is. Individual shareholders have nothing but the chance to sell it to the next sucker. A mutual fund buys one million shares of a company with your and your coworkers' money. You own 1 percent of the company. Six weeks later you own less, and all that money went to insiders, not to the company. And no one asked your permission, and you didn't know you got diluted or by how much till 90 days after the fact if that soon.
End of link.
Oh, and as big of a scam as the overall American stock market is, the Chinese one is worse.
This is from a search on Chinese stock rights: Foreign investors generally have no direct ownership rights or legal recourse when buying Chinese stocks listed on USA Exchanges. Instead of owning shares in the actual Chinese operating company, investors purchase stock in an offshore Variable Interest Entity (VIE), typically a shell company registered in the Cayman Islands. This structure relies on contracts rather than equity ownership, meaning shareholders hold zero controlling interest and possess only a contractual claim to economic benefits that Chinese courts may deem unenforceable or illegal.
What cracks me up about this is that this is Geely is like Nvidia. You cannot make a case for the stock as really by law the stock is worthless, but if you gamble based on name recognition, then my bet would be Geely is the first Chinese car maker to come to market. They own Volvo and have the USA infrastructure. Trump has said he would let Chinese cars in as long as they were manufactured in the USA and the lower labor costs are not really what make Chinese cars cheaper.
If you want to look at fundamentals, you can see why the auto industry in China IS a scam: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_fJJxMjn4&t=632s[/URL].
Just like long term there is no way Nvidia can grow or deliver the numbers they are now, the car companies and China are going down. It will take awhile but they are doing much the same things as Japan did and going into massive debt.
However, in the short and medium term, yeah, the Chinese cars will blow the roof of foreign competitors like they have done in Chile and are doing in Mexico. As for why, it is the engineering talent is much cheaper and that so many of the supply chains are based in China. In this video, the youtuber describes why what takes 3 months for Europe to model takes 3 days in China because one part of China produces 90% of all consumer electronics. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talyf00Cl24[/URL]
When Ford looked at changing things in the cars, it took way longer and was way more expensive. The legacy auto companies really cannot compete with the Chinese.
Yeah, the Cherys are nice vehicles, but if you look at the top rated ones in Mexico, Geely cars are usually rated higher and because of the infrastructure with owning Volvo, I bet that Geely will be the first to market. I think that the Chinese companies have decided to dabble in Mexico first and then step up to the big leagues in the USA. Apparently, a lot of the Volvo engineers have been giving styling input on the Geelys and like I said, they do look really cool especially on the inside.
So yeah, Geely is a gamble but it is probably a good one.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3073399]LOL. Trump's pandemic? You lost it right there.
Global inflation? There was no inflation during the pandemic with Trump. In fact, there were so many people rushing into the dollar it was unreal. The dollar bought 25 Mexican pesos and 5000 COP in Colombia. Those numbers are 17+ and 3000+ today. There was inflation after Biden started printing up an unlimited number of dollars, and the government in their infinite stupidity shut down supply chains.
There is conspiracy theory, and there is insanity. That is absolute insanity. Oil and gas demand plummeted during the pandemic. When it picked back up again, the price rose. That is simple economics. There was no deal. If you know squat, you know the OPEC members also have deals and the members cheat on them all the time.
Yes, Biden cured the common cold. It did not naturally mutate into a less virulent form. And after curing the common cold, Biden cured cancer and made cold fusion which made our energy demands completely non carbon producing. Amazingly, the fact that Biden could not walk and chew gum at the same time during the debate was just an act, and he fooled everyone with how capable he really was.
OMG. 3.6% inflation? Say it ain't so. You kind of left out the fact that the nest eggs have done well under Trump, and I just hit the pump. Gas prices were down 50 cents from last month. Oops.
As for the "inflation", maybe you do not get this, but people adjust. They work more. They shop at Walmart v the brand name grocery stores. They drive less. They use 3. 6% less stuff or work 3. 6% harder. The big part that you do not get is that this was temporary. In fact, just you wait, that inflation number will be negative a month or two from now, and you will be on to your latest Trump demonization rant, ignore lower prices, and find something else to gripe about, and we all know it..[/QUOTE]Yes, Einstein, we all know worldwide economies crashed due to Trump's 2019 decisions ushering in Trump's Pandemic.
Uh.
The Trump's Pandemic Inflation is what occurred during the recovery from the economic disaster of Trump's pandemic.
Yeah, the worldwide economic crash part of Trump's Pandemic was when Trump and dumb Repub hillbilly MAGAs continue to crow about how cheap everything was when nobody was going anywhere or doing anything and, gee, the rate of inflation was near zero and we could all buy gas cheaper because the streets, highways, businesses and schools were closed and millions of jobs were being wiped out even faster than Americans were dropping dead from it or, worse, lingering for weeks in private hospital rooms occupying all the facilities and staff time and effort just to keep their fat ass old MAGA selves alive a few more days.
But, see, and try to grasp the nuance here; there would have been no need for a recovery from Trump's Pandemic and all of the higher rates of inflation alllll l around the world that followed if Trump had not ushered in Trump's Pandemic in the first place by defunding and removing the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response teams leadership from those Chinese labs researching and studying coronaviruses in 2019 contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid.
Which he did only because it was another resoundingly successful program organized and developed by Barack Obama.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073431]I was ready to call bull shit on this. But I decided to check with ChatGPT. And Dagnabit, the polls support it:
Gallup & YouGov Polling Data.
"Extremely Proud" to be American (Gallup).
Democrats: 14%.
Republicans: 70%.
View themselves as "Very Patriotic" (YouGov).
Democrats: 14%.
Republicans: 74%.
Plan to display an American flag this July 4th (Reuters / Ipsos).
Democrats: 27%.
Republicans: 64%.
I do however honestly believe the Democrats and Communists who post in this thread are among the 30% who are patriotic.[/QUOTE]Repubs and Bothsider / Neithersiders LOVE it when their guys get their way and the USA economy is stagnant or crashing, Trillions are added to the deficits with zero to show for it, private-sector jobs creation and therefore wage growth are pathetically weak and the cherry on top is when the country is plunged into still another quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice based on a Repub lie.
Democrats are far less thrilled about that because they know who will be called upon to clean up the colossal mess of everything made by your guys, battered, harangued, denigrated and sniped at every grueling recovery step of the way. And it ain't going to be the Repubs who created the colossal mess of everything or a nobody third party waste of space. Nope, 100 years of history has shown it will be Dems and only Dems who will pull us out of the colossal mess of everything Repubs have created while they scratch their pea-brained heads wondering why oh why aren't Dems as happy about the colossal mess of everything they created as they are.
Lolol.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073410]Obviously you are not living in the same USA as the rest of us. The Trump tax cuts were more than the inflation and everyone retired has seen their retirement funds and savings go up dramatically. Wages are up significantly. I guess you never saved or put money into retirement so you did not benefit. But unemployment is at an all time low and everyone working is benefiting from their tax savings. Inflation is so much lower than the Biden years that few people really care about it. None of the fake news networks ever cared about inflation in Biden presidency so obviously that is where you get your fake information. Every person I know is doing better under the Trump presidency so stop your fake posts.[/QUOTE]Never mind an ordinary link to an ordinary fact-based economic report since I know you never heard of one. But don't we even get a screenshot of your ass where you pulled out that list of easily debunked bizarro world hogwash?
The USA Stock Market, the gains in which are almost entirely due to Joe Biden's 2022 CHIPS & Science Act as well as virtually every new factory built during this 2nd Trump term, grew as much if not more in the previous year and a half under Biden as in this recent year and a half under Trump. Behold the charts below.
And I know data-monitor Tiny is just about to correct you on your false claims about the unemployment rate being at an all time low, wages up significantly blah blah blah any minute now. Let's count down to when that post will land; 10,9, 8, 7, etc, etc.
When Trump lost first war, but the crazy return to make war with Iran. He didn't understand yet, with his few neurons still working. Americans should have more inflation from their crazy. At least, 300 billions to save, no need to give to mollahs when he wanted, as result of his very expensive war.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3073497]When Trump lost first war, but the crazy return to make war with Iran. He didn't understand yet, with his few neurons still working. Americans should have more inflation from their crazy. At least, 300 billions to save, no need to give to mollahs when he wanted, as result of his very expensive war.[/QUOTE]Which war did Trump lose. He hasn't started any wars and stopped about 8 wars. Your hate for Trump and hate of America does not allow you make up lies. I think you should be more worried about France government. They have pretty much ruined your country but we don't criticize your leader every day. Save your bitching and complaining for your French friends. France would be a hell of a lot better if Trump was your leader so jealousy will get you nowhere.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073486]Never mind an ordinary link to an ordinary fact-based economic report since I know you never heard of one. But don't we even get a screenshot of your ass where you pulled out that list of easily debunked bizarro world hogwash?
The USA Stock Market, the gains in which are almost entirely due to Joe Biden's 2022 CHIPS & Science Act as well as virtually every new factory built during this 2nd Trump term, grew as much if not more in the previous year and a half under Biden as in this recent year and a half under Trump. Behold the charts below.
And I know data-monitor Tiny is just about to correct you on your false claims about the unemployment rate being at an all time low, wages up significantly blah blah blah any minute now. Let's count down to when that post will land; 10,9, 8, 7, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]You obviously have nothing invested in the USA markets or you wouldn't say lies like this. On 18 months of Trump markets I made more than 4 years of Biden. If you didn't see these results you either had the dumbest financial advisor or took your money out of the market like many stupid democrats did when Trump was elected. Pulling fake statistics and fake don't make you look smarter. You have nothing invested in the markets so Trump wins are not helping you. That is a fact.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3073431]I was ready to call bull shit on this. But I decided to check with ChatGPT. And Dagnabit, the polls support it:
Gallup & YouGov Polling Data.
"Extremely Proud" to be American (Gallup).
Democrats: 14%.
Republicans: 70%.
View themselves as "Very Patriotic" (YouGov).
Democrats: 14%.
Republicans: 74%.
Plan to display an American flag this July 4th (Reuters / Ipsos).
Democrats: 27%.
Republicans: 64%.
I do however honestly believe the Democrats and Communists who post in this thread are among the 30% who are patriotic.[/QUOTE]Democrats are getting closer every day to supporting communism and most communists hate America. They cheer against the USA soccer team, burn the American flag, support terrorism and Iran. And they admit it on live television every day. Democrats hate everything Trump does that is great for America. But they hate America but won't move to another country because deep down they know it is much worse than USA.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073480]Yes, Einstein, we all know worldwide economies crashed due to Trump's 2019 decisions ushering in Trump's Pandemic.
Uh.
The Trump's Pandemic Inflation is what occurred during the recovery from the economic disaster of Trump's pandemic.
Yeah, the worldwide economic crash part of Trump's Pandemic was when Trump and dumb Repub hillbilly MAGAs continue to crow about how cheap everything was when nobody was going anywhere or doing anything and, gee, the rate of inflation was near zero and we could all buy gas cheaper because the streets, highways, businesses and schools were closed and millions of jobs were being wiped out even faster than Americans were dropping dead from it or, worse, lingering for weeks in private hospital rooms occupying all the facilities and staff time and effort just to keep their fat ass old MAGA selves alive a few more days..[/QUOTE]You have rocks in your head. Inflation under Biden was Trump's fault? Oh boy. I don't want to hear your bullshit about some government officials who were cut and could have miraculously ended the pandemic. What specific action could Trump have undertaken to stop Covid spreading from China? Right now, you blame Trump for everything, and you seem to have missed the point that more people died in 2021 under Biden than in 2020 under Trump.
Again, what specific action could Trump have legally taken?
Quite frankly, your posts are ludicrous as everyone knows. At this point, if Trump did not write his mean tweets, the whole world would have been saved. This is classic TDS, and the worst part of it is this type of TDS led to lawfare and the assassination attempts. You cannot say Trump is responsible for the pandemic and then curse the assassination attempts. If Trump really were responsible, then killing him was justified.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073486]Never mind an ordinary link to an ordinary fact-based economic report since I know you never heard of one. But don't we even get a screenshot of your ass where you pulled out that list of easily debunked bizarro world hogwash?
The USA Stock Market, the gains in which are almost entirely due to Joe Biden's 2022 CHIPS & Science Act as well as virtually every new factory built during this 2nd Trump term, grew as much if not more in the previous year and a half under Biden as in this recent year and a half under Trump. Behold the charts below.
And I know data-monitor Tiny is just about to correct you on your false claims about the unemployment rate being at an all time low, wages up significantly blah blah blah any minute now. Let's count down to when that post will land; 10,9, 8, 7, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]Of course, in 2022, the market went down big time buy hey, you keep screaming the Dems good, Republicans bad nonsense every post because you are so afraid that your payouts are going to be hit even though you live in Thailand. Don't worry, Tooms, things are not that terrible. Everyone who wants a job has one now, and if you are really worried about your financial future, Uber is hiring.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073602]You obviously have nothing invested in the USA markets or you wouldn't say lies like this. On 18 months of Trump markets I made more than 4 years of Biden. If you didn't see these results you either had the dumbest financial advisor or took your money out of the market like many stupid democrats did when Trump was elected. Pulling fake statistics and fake don't make you look smarter. You have nothing invested in the markets so Trump wins are not helping you. That is a fact.[/QUOTE]Do you seriously believe I "made up" the S&P 500 Index graph and the DJIA graph I posted right there clearly showing equal if not better gains in the USA Stock Market under Biden in the years before Trump took office vs since Trump took office in order to make Trump look bad?
I've got to ask; are you in full agreement with your boy Trump that the President of Ukraine sitting next to him at the NATO conference is actually "president Putin" and that the "Islamic Republic of Japan" fired 111 missiles at ships in the Strait of Hormuz? Uh. That would be after he claimed the USA obliterated the Iran Navy and Airforce, they have nothing left, of course.
Really. I'm curious to know just how far your Trump Derangement goes.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3073634]You have rocks in your head. Inflation under Biden was Trump's fault? Oh boy. I don't want to hear your bullshit about some government officials who were cut and could have miraculously ended the pandemic. What specific action could Trump have undertaken to stop Covid spreading from China? Right now, you blame Trump for everything, and you seem to have missed the point that more people died in 2021 under Biden than in 2020 under Trump.
Again, what specific action could Trump have legally taken?
Quite frankly, your posts are ludicrous as everyone knows. At this point, if Trump did not write his mean tweets, the whole world would have been saved. This is classic TDS, and the worst part of it is this type of TDS led to lawfare and the assassination attempts. You cannot say Trump is responsible for the pandemic and then curse the assassination attempts. If Trump really were responsible, then killing him was justified.[/QUOTE]I have posted full substantiation for how Trump ushered in Trump's Pandemic many, many times here. Including Trump's own admission that the whole thing would never have become a Pandemic in the first place and would have been stopped "easily" if only somebody had told us about those initial cases discovered in those labs "two months earlier", the sole reason that didn't happen being because he defunded and removed the people who were stationed there precisely for that purpose months earlier.
Ok. Just for you, I'll post a shorthand version of the blissfully simple to understand version of it. And, a reminder, the links I have provided here are not the only credible real news sources for the content but are instead the ones that generally allow access without a Paywall.
Inflation was high under Biden because of 2 years of collapsed global supply-chains followed by the release of pent up demand during the historic Biden-Harris / Dem recovery from Trump's Pandemic.
Yes. Trump's Pandemic.
Trump was more responsible than any other person on the planet for allowing an otherwise manageable epidemic confined to one region of China (until a vaccine could be invented and administered) to develop into the deadly, worldwide Pandemic it became, along with all of the global supply-chain collapses, massive jobs destruction, business, school and travel venue closures and the unavoidable skyrocketing inflation during the recovery that followed.
Here is Trump in a March 2020 interview describing the different outcome the world would have enjoyed if only someone in China had alerted us to the initial Covid cases two months earlier:
[QUOTE]". .they should've let it be known it was a problem two months earlier. [B]The world wouldn't have a problem. We could have stopped it easily. "[/b][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]
And here is the only reason no responsible officials were in China and in those labs "two months earler" to do the very thing everyone except Donald Trump knew should not be left to the Chinese to admit and alert anyone about:
[B]Trump says China "should have told us" about coronavirus. He removed the official meant to do that.
A US epidemiologist was embedded with the Chinese CDC. The Trump administration discontinued the position.[/B]
[URL]https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/23/21190713/coronavirus-trump-china-cdc-embed-quick[/URL]
[B]Exclusive: USA Slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-us-slashed-cdc-staff-inside-china-prior-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21C3NE/[/URL]
The conclusion is blatantly and inarguably obvious; if you wanted to avoid the Covid-19 Pandemic, avert the millions of deaths, millions of lost jobs, the school and business closures as well as the skyrocketing global inflation that followed, America should have elected Hillary Clinton for President in 2016.
Hey, it turns out I might still be firmly within the 1% of Americans profiting from the one bright spot in Trump's economy. Imagine that? And all the way over here in Thailand. My goodness gracious, by what mystical magical process is that possible?
Well, it's the one less dim and weak spot in Trump's otherwise dismal economy but for the hard work and heavy lifting done by Biden, Harris and the Dems in Congress previously, that is. Clearly, the data, charts, graphs, all evidence show there is nothing remarkable about the USA Stock Market gains under Trump than they were under Biden, the historical average or certainly not compared to most Democrats over the past 100 years. Someone who has no money invested in the USA Stock Market or has not even heard of the USA Stock Market could win the argument against any MAGA claiming there is something remarkable about the gains in it over the past 18 months vs the gains in the previous 18 months just by doing a simple Google Search.
Especially when you factor in the disastrous market conditions outgoing Repubs generally hand incoming Dems vs the historically positive conditions outgoing Dems hand incoming Repubs. And particularly in the case of Donald Trump who not only benefitted from that 100 years long pattern but has also added Trillions to his deficits in order to jack up the stock market while things that do not interest him like private-sector job gains, wage gains, housing and rent costs along with general affordability for the other 99% go to the wayside.
[B]Trump says 'everybody's profiting' from market gains but its mostly the 1%[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/02/trump-says-everybodys-profiting-from-market-gains-but-mostly-the-1percent.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]When asked about his lucrative stock portfolio, President Donald Trump told reporters: You know why Im profiting? Because the stock markets going up, everybodys profiting.
But not everybody is sharing in the markets upside.
The top 1% own about 50% of corporate equities and mutual fund shares, according to the most recent Federal Reserve data. The bottom 50% of households collectively hold just 1% of that stock and mutual fund wealth.[/QUOTE]BTW, let's hear from the MAGAs here dumb enough to believe the Billions of Dollars Trump and his Crime Family got put into their pockets from domestic and foreign bribes, bailouts and emoluments were the result of their brilliant USA Stock Market investments over the past 18 months. Lololol.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073600]Which war did Trump lose. He hasn't started any wars and stopped about 8 wars. Your hate for Trump and hate of America does not allow you make up lies. I think you should be more worried about France government. They have pretty much ruined your country but we don't criticize your leader every day. Save your bitching and complaining for your French friends. France would be a hell of a lot better if Trump was your leader so jealousy will get you nowhere.[/QUOTE]Please, keep Trump for you and far from my France, when he was so proud at Versailles, when he dreams to have a Arc de Triomphe. I really wonder where you live, in a petrol hole in deep Texas for cow boys, when you are so disconnected from reality, ignoring 60% Americans, not 50%, and most US artists, disagree with your Trump who failed in Ukraine, who made a problem and still for Ormuz pass, when was no problem before he started his war, but still mollahs, nothing changed in Iran, but now worse situation for world economics after, when not finished yet, than before he attacked Iran which never attacked USA, same than Ukraine never attacked Russia, what I call losing when worse situation for the world and even Americans paying inflation, than before attacking. I look forward knowing for your 8 Trump peace, when I like to learn every day. Facts are: failure when still war in Ukraine, robbering Venezuela petrol, threatening Greenland who claim they don t want to be Americans, threatening Cuba, Germany, Spain, Gaza. I don t hate Americans, I don t care about republicans or democrats when I don t live in USA, when I much prefer my good life in my beloved France, but I hate Trump for kind of man he is, for his manners, behavior, schizophrenic actions, when he impact my job linked to world economics and create inflation in whole world and 4% in USA, don t You also know this? Americans pay his tax and inflation, and if I don t hate them, I find them low cleverness, ignorant for most, not understanding Trump is a danger for our world where USA are only less than 5% population on earth. No peace as he promised to be re elected, but more wars than before he returned and pollution he ignored as a old senile, making heat, tornados, hurricanes, disasters, killing so many. I think for most of our world, he is the worst president of USA and never king of the world, but just a senile old megaloman making messe everywhere like a bad child parents are not able to control and educate. But he gives so bad, shameful image of USA, when I think Americans should deserve much better, cleverer, less ignorant, than him. I wish mid terms will kick him out, with all his lies and bullshits, when he fucked deeply most Americans who don t interest him, when he is their president.
[U]The Dis United States of America is a Plutocracy[/U]
[I]A [b]plutocracy[/b] is a society or system of government where power is concentrated in the hands of the wealthy. Derived from the Greek words ploutos (wealth) and kratos (power), it operates as a form of oligarchy where financial influence, rather than democratic majority, directs political decisions and policy-making.
[u]Key Characteristics and Mechanisms[/u]
[b]Disproportionate Influence[/b]: Wealthy individuals, corporations, and interest groups shape political landscapes through lobbying, campaign contributions, and media control.
[b]Policy Priorities[/b]: Governments in plutocratic systems tend to prioritize policies that benefit the affluent such as deregulation and tax cuts for high-income earnerswhich can inadvertently worsen economic inequality.
[b]Barriers to Entry[/b]: When holding office or participating in the political process requires immense personal wealth or backing from the rich, lower-income groups are often entirely marginalized[/I]
Yep, that is the Dis United States of America that I grew up in. Don't get me wrong. I managed to get crumbs from the system that allow me to eat each month. So, I benefit from it. But like a good umpire I call it the way I see it.
[QUOTE]I know that sounds crazy, but the stock market has gone from a place where investors actually own part of a company and have a say in their management, to a market designed to enrich insiders by allowing them to sell shares they buy cheaply through options. Companies continuously issue new shares to their managers without asking their existing shareholders. Those managers then leak that stock to the market a little at a time. It's unlimited dilution of existing shareholders' stakes, death by a thousand dilutive cuts. If that isn't a scam, I don't know what is. Individual shareholders have nothing but the chance to sell it to the next sucker. A mutual fund buys one million shares of a company with your and your coworkers' money. You own 1 percent of the company. Six weeks later you own less, and all that money went to insiders, not to the company. And no one asked your permission, and you didn't know you got diluted or by how much till 90 days after the fact if that soon.[/QUOTE]In other words, [B]the Stock Market of the Dis United States of America is rigged[/B].
Is this news?
Yet, we have people who have a problem with those who challenge the system because they are getting noting out of it. How is it possible to love capitalism when you are in a capitalist system but do not benefit? People confuse political systems with economic ones. Calling the current capitalistic system in the Dis United States of America rigged and wanting to try something else does not make you unpatriotic. It does not make you a communist. Here is an example of someone using a word they do not understand:
[QUOTE=Canada;3073604]Democrats are getting closer every day to supporting communism and most communists hate America. They cheer against the USA soccer team, burn the American flag, support terrorism and Iran. And they admit it on live television every day. Democrats hate everything Trump does that is great for America. But they hate America but won't move to another country because deep down they know it is much worse than USA.[/QUOTE][I]A [b]communist[/b] is a person who supports or believes in communism. Communism is a political and economic system where everything is owned by the public or the community rather than by private individuals. In a communist society, there is no private property, no social classes, and no money. Wealth is divided among citizens equally or according to individual need.[/I]
I don't know any Democrat that supports communism. If am a wrong then provide a public example of this to prove your point. If it's you opinion that is ok. Opinions are not based on facts.
[I][b]Socialism[/b] is an economic and political philosophy advocating for collective or public ownership of the means of production, rather than private ownership. Its primary goal is to reduce economic inequality by distributing wealth and resources based on human need rather than profit.[/I]
I have been called a Socialist.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2825778]Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand [b]or is he another socialist[/b] that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?[/QUOTE]He called me this while I owned stock in AAPL and NVDA. [B]ROTFLMAO![/B]. He didn't back it up with anything. Never explained himself. So ask yourselves if this individual is credible?
You're welcome.
Just letting you know we in Thailand are doing our best to pick up the slack from the American working men and women consumers' affordability crisis in this 2nd term Trump Slump economy in order to keep a revered American conglomerate afloat during these difficult times.
[B]PepsiCo earnings miss estimates as North American consumers tighten their budgets[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/09/pepsico-pep-q2-2026-earnings.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]PepsiCo reported weaker-than-expected quarterly earnings.
The companys revenue topped Wall Streets estimates, boosted by [b]strong international demand[/b] for its snacks and drinks.
Pepsi reiterated its full-year forecast.
PepsiCo on Thursday reported mixed quarterly results as the [b]struggles of its North American food and beverage divisions offset strong international demand.[/b]
Results were tempered in the quarter as U.S. food and beverage category performance moderated with [b]consumer budgets tightening due to rising inflationary pressures,[/b] CEO Ramon Laguarta said in prepared remarks shared on the companys website on Thursday.
During Pepsi's second quarter, [b]global oil prices swung dramatically due to the U.S. war with Iran. In the U.S., the national average gas price hit a four-year high of $4.56 per gallon in late May, leading many shoppers to watch their spending.[/b][/QUOTE]Perhaps Biden or Harris would have passed a bi-partisan Snacks & Beverages Act over the past 18 months to stimulate beleaguered American conglomerates' business outlook and have them roaring along as one of the few bright spots in the USA economy and stock market as they did for the American CHIPS & Science industries, if only that tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only 3 swings states that mattered hadn't delivered every winning Electoral College vote for Trump in one of the closest races in history.
Oh well.
We in Thailand are still trying to help you guys.
Thing about those with TDS is that they only allow 100% negative comments about Trump and 100% positive comments about Dems. Any Dem who makes a valid criticism of the Democratic party like saying Kamala Harris was a shit candidate is attacked and proclaimed a bothsider. The Democrats are the party of women and I have been watching the men of action podcast and seen when the two males discuss the data from a scientific study and the women in unison say "Yeah, we do not believe that" and the women try to knock it down right there. This is the modern Democratic party and it's see no evil hear no evil attitude.
OTOH, Republicans are allowed to disagree. Certainly, you put yourself out there if you go to hard against Trump but there have been notable exceptions. The latest Trump cringing moment was Trump involving himself in the World Cup and an American striker getting a red card. Yes, he was right to do it as the red card was ridiculously unfair and the punishment was unduly harsh, but Trump had to brag about it giving Belgium a ridiculously high psych to play hard. Anyone in sports knows the way to beat your opponent is to praise them. I will never forget a boxing match with Larry Holmes and what lit a fire into him. It was not the fame or fortune that turned him into a freak in the ring but it was his opponent hitting him in the groin.
The most recent Trump polltical cringe moment was the Iran war. To be sure, there was a large segment of the Repubilcan party that was outspoken against him. The market turned against Trump and eventually he was forced to capitutlate and made a deal to end the war that was met with disbelief. The Dems who had been saying that we had lost the war even before a shot was fired had their moment in the sun. Iran was allowed to sell its crude. Frozen assets were unfrozen, and Iran will be allowed to collect tolls on the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian attitude towards the world was almost Trumpian, Iran has been very clear that the current "free" passage in the Strait of Hormuz is only available for 60 days and has stated "if you are my friend, you pay less. If you are not my friend, you pay more. If I don't like you, maybe I won't even let you take your oil through. " Yes, the entire world was going to have to kiss Iran's ass.
But Trump told Iran that he would not just be handing Iran cash but that it had strings attached. He told Iran we will be watching what you buy. And then China, their largest customer, told Iran to pound sand once Iran said they were back open for business and open to selling China its oil. An incensed Iran then attacked American bases and Trump did not respond with capitulation. He said the Iranian leaders were scum and he was done with them and responded with an attack in kind.
Sure, the headlines showed oil prices were up once the attacks begun, but by today already, the oil prices are down. More importantly, there is something called the crack spread or front spread which is the difference between a refined product like jet fuel or gasoline in comparison to the oil it comes from. From Doomberg on June 24, there was this, "If there is a shortage of oil per se, the front spread is the pebble in the water from which all other oil pricing is derived. If we had a shortage of oil today, the front spread would be trading $10.00 not $0.55 cents and this is just wow it's worth $0. 55 cents when capacity utilization in PADD 3 is 95% to 98%. When demand for crude is high and the front spread is flat. Inventory surveys are irrelevant. Supply is greater than demand." And if one looks at oil futures, the oil market is literally yawning at Iran and its threats.
As for why, one reason is the world has turned to American liquified natural gas or LPG as an alternative. Keep in mind that this is the very fuel that the brain dead idiot Biden banned our producers from selling to appease the climate change nuts. As you recall and Speaker Johnson attested to, his home state of Louisiana was hurting when Biden banned the export of LNG, and Biden was so brain dead, he said that he did not ban the sale of LPG.
In contrast to Trump, US LPG exports climbed to a record high of 3. 3 million barrels / day in April, led by propane, as the continued effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz has boosted demand for US barrels, S&P Global Commodities at Sea data showed on May 5.
In addition, China has turned on a dime. From Doomberg, Against this backdrop sits another economic black box: China, the world's largest importer of crude oil. For decades, Chinese leaders have addressed this vulnerability by investing huge sums to insure against worst-case scenarios. In so doing, China has wildly overinvested in coal-to-liquids technology, petrochemical processing, crude oil refining, electric vehicle production, and liquefied natural gas import terminals. These state-of-the-art facilities are often built in record time and regularly operate at rates well below their nameplate capacities, much to the frustration of global competitors.
A sharp fall in China's crude oil imports during the Iran war has been instrumental in holding down oil prices and keeping the global economy humming.
Chinese official customs data put crude imports at 7.8 million barrels a day in May, which includes oil arriving by pipeline from Russia, a drop from around 11 million barrels a day in recent years. The missing three million barrels are roughly equal to the combined daily oil consumption of Italy and France.
Just as remarkable as the abrupt import fall is the absence of major visible disruptions to everyday life in China. Tourists are still traveling, factories are still running and store shelves have plenty of toilet paper.
Remarkably, this was accomplished without meaningful draws on the country's vast stockpile of crude reserves, at least according to consensus market views and official government data. It wasn't until May that those reserves were tapped, and even then only to the tune of 0.5-1 million barrels per day.
That China has the ability to swing 3 to 4 million barrels per day of crude demand for months at a time without a flinch seems a profoundly important development. Without knowing the specifics of how this was accomplished, one can conclude that sufficient engine switching and demand-shifting capacity exists within the country to cap oil prices in all but the most extreme scenarios. This has clearly been done, within factories and consumer products alike, on a scale few have yet fully internalized.
As we have often pondered both here and on numerous podcast appearances, if $150 oil prices could not be achieved with the Iran war fact set, how could they ever be achieved—at least in real US dollar terms?
Said another way, if crude oil has shifted from a necessary hydrocarbon to an optional one at the margins, and those margins are as wide as Chinese demand, what does the future entail for energy prices?
End of link.
So yeah, when Iran said the world was going to have to kiss its ass, China and other countries have said, "Yeah, I don't think so."
As for the supposed reason for going to war, destruction of Iranian nuclear capability, there was good news on that front from Seymour Hersh, President Donald Trump, in a striking change of tone, has told the NATO summit in Ankara, Turkey, that he is prepared to escalate the current US attacks on Iran. "We're going to hit them hard tonight, but we'll see how it all works out" Trump said. The targets, a report in the New York Times said, would include the nation's infrastructure and desalination plans, all potential war crimes.
There is a previously unknown explanation for the change in tone. The US and Israeli intelligence communities have recently learned that Iran's supposedly existential threat to Israel and the West—its underground supply of partially enriched uranium—has degraded while in underground storage. Two of the three Iranian nuclear storage depots, at Fordow and Isfahan, are "hot"—that is, filled with radioactivity from what clearly has been significant degradation of the storage containers Iran had used for the keep saving of Iran's hope of eventually upgrading the stored material to weapons level and becoming another player in the nuclear world.
I have been told by sources close to US and Israeli intelligence that a recent inspection of the underground storage areas led to the death of at least two Iranian technicians—they may have been members of the Iranian military—who were exposed to high levels of radioactivity.
The contamination from the enriched materials can only be seen as a huge setback to any Iranian long-range plan to become a nuclear power. It was clear in private talks here in Washington that, as one official put it, "the nuclear threat from Iran is no longer there.
"An underground cache of partially enriched uranium, which is un-recoverable, is not a nuclear weapon," the official said.
End of link.
So add it up: record USA energy sales, no one buying Iranian crude, Iranian leadership is now isolated from the world, the world now yawning at the Strait of Hormuz being closed, and Iran's nuclear ambitions suffering a massive set back, and that sounds like winning to me.
It is funny in that you have guys in the media mouting off like Trump and so called experts like Peter Zeihan saying Trump's actions would lead to massive inflation because of higher oil prices and food shortages due to a lack of fertilizer are not admitting that they were wrong. No, it is the Democratic loser speak we have heard so often with Trump. The economy is terrible and the food shortages are coming. We were not wrong just early. It really is fucking pathetic.
Why do Trump and his fellow Repub MAGAs hate American kids, American seniors, disabled Americans and their American families so much?
[B]Immigration changes could worsen care worker shortages and raise family costs[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/03/immigration-changes-may-raise-long-term-care-costs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Immigrants make up 30% of direct care workers in long-term care settings, according to the nonpartisan health policy research group KFF.
Tighter immigration policies could [b]deepen staffing shortages, impacting care for seniors and people with disabilities[/b], expert says.
Fewer care workers could [b]increase costs and financial pressure on American families[/b], said Louis Barajas, a CNBC Financial Advisor Council member. [/QUOTE]Repub Trump's typical crap Repub jobs creation, weak wage growth and zeal to save America from low cost nail salon technicians, farm workers, busboys and care workers is a toxic brew for suffering among American families.
But I hear that is exactly what everybody who could have but did not vote for Kamala Harris voted for.
Oh well.
We tried.
Nothing much we in Thailand can do to help you guys in Trumpistan with this one. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3073751]Thing about those with TDS is that they only allow 100% negative comments about Trump and 100% positive comments about Dems. Any Dem who makes a valid criticism of the Democratic party like saying Kamala Harris was a shit candidate is attacked and proclaimed a bothsider. The Democrats are the party of women and I have been watching the men of action podcast and seen when the two males discuss the data from a scientific study and the women in unison say "Yeah, we do not believe that" and the women try to knock it down right there. This is the modern Democratic party and it's see no evil hear no evil attitude.
OTOH, Republicans are allowed to disagree. Certainly, you put yourself out there if you go to hard against Trump but there have been notable exceptions. The latest Trump cringing moment was Trump involving himself in the World Cup and an American striker getting a red card. Yes, he was right to do it as the red card was ridiculously unfair and the punishment was unduly harsh, but Trump had to brag about it giving Belgium a ridiculously high psych to play hard. Anyone in sports knows the way to beat your opponent is to praise them. I will never forget a boxing match with Larry Holmes and what lit a fire into him. It was not the fame or fortune that turned him into a freak in the ring but it was his opponent hitting him in the groin..[/QUOTE]Great post. No the democrats losers will never change. They must lead a miserable life being against Trump and against America on so many issues. The good news is these dumb democrats don't know what a woman is so at least the transgenders are getting laid by these democrats. Leaves more women for us. Men in dresses are women so they can play women's sports. You can't fix stupid!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3073711]Please, keep Trump for you and far from my France, when he was so proud at Versailles, when he dreams to have a Arc de Triomphe. I really wonder where you live, in a petrol hole in deep Texas for cow boys, when you are so disconnected from reality, ignoring 60% Americans, not 50%, and most US artists, disagree with your Trump who failed in Ukraine, who made a problem and still for Ormuz pass, when was no problem before he started his war, but still mollahs, nothing changed in Iran, but now worse situation for world economics after, when not finished yet, than before he attacked Iran which never attacked USA, same than Ukraine never attacked Russia, what I call losing when worse situation for the world and even Americans paying inflation, than before attacking..[/QUOTE]Are you upset because Trump hasn't ended Biden war in Ukraine? This isn't Trump war but it will end before his term. Probably sooner than later. You just can't admit Trump has been so successful in stopping so many wars and you can't accept the fact that Trump saved France and Europe from Iran nuclear threat. An intelligent person would recognize that the world is safer without terrorism.
Despite the fact that Repub so-called president Donald Trump can't keep the presidents of Russia Russia Russia and Ukraine straight in his head or which Islamic Republic country he is currently losing his War of Choice based on a Repub lie against, it turns out Dem President Joe Biden's almost single-handed international rally of support for Ukraine after Russia Russia Russia's Putin stupidly invaded a sovereign nation in his effort to destroy democratic governance around the world and replace it with Communism, something Donald Trump has always thought and openly characterized as "very smart", appears to be paying off as a historic show of support for freedom and democracy by a USA president perhaps leading to a resounding win for the good guys and defeat of the bad guys.
Only time will tell, of course. But it is heartening to witness the democratic spirit as perfectly exemplified by the previous Dem USA Presidents and the Ukraine President on the ascension against the current Russia Russia Russia Communism-loving Repub USA so-called president and his best bud Putin's wishes for less and less democracy and more and more Communism at home and abroad.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE] [b]Which side is winning the war between Russia and Ukraine?[/b]
+4
Ukraine has gained the upper hand, with its automated armed forces and mid-range drone strikes slowing Russia's advances to a crawl and recapturing territory. While Russia continues to press along the eastern front, its ground offensive is largely stalled due to unsustainable casualties and logistical disruptions, causing the Kremlin's momentum to fade.
Key factors in the shift include:Frontline Progress: The Russian advance has been reduced to marginal, highly costly daily gains, with Ukrainian counteroffensives successfully reclaiming ground.
Drone Offensives: Ukraine has effectively targeted Russian logistics, supply networks, and the Russian industrial baseincluding oil refineriesfrom long-range distances.
Strategic Setbacks: Russian President Vladimir Putin is reportedly facing pressure as the invasion approaches an estimated 500,000 Russian casualties, coupled with severe economic impacts.
For more details on the shifting momentum, you can read in-depth coverage from the Atlantic Council or the strategic analysis provided by Foreign Policy.1mEurope says Russia can't win Ukraine war militarilyYouTubeCNNUkraine just showed the whole world that Putin is losing control of the warRussia's apparent inability to defend itself against Ukraine's escalating drone offensive is only one of multiple challenges Putin currently faces. His invading...Atlantic CouncilUkraine Is Winning Its War On Russian Oil Refineries. On The Front ...On Ukraine's Battlefield, Russia Has Lost Ground, Experts Say. But Don't Expect A Major Reversal For Kyiv. In Kostyantynivka, Russian troops advanced on average...Radio Free Europe/Radio LibertyIs Ukraine Winning the War? - by Aaron MacLean - The Free PressIs Ukraine Winning the War? - by Aaron MacLean. Is Ukraine Winning the War? Ukraine's strikes against Russia's industrial base have been spectacularly successfu...The Free PressPutin May Escalate, but Ukraine Is Winning - Foreign PolicyOn July 1, Russia unleashed a massive airstrike on Kyiv. Russian President Vladimir Putin no doubt intended it as a show of dominance to offset renewed claims t...Foreign PolicyYes, Russia Is Losing the War in Ukraine - by Cathy YoungExpatriate Russian political scientist Vladimir Pastukhov, an honorary professor at University College London, noted in a YouTube interview that since late 2024...The BulwarkUkraine Latest: Russia Presses forward on the Front as the War Expands beyond the BattlefieldUkraine Latest: Russia Presses forward on the Front as the War Expands beyond the Battlefield Russia stepped up pressure across several sectors of the front lin...Georgia Today[/QUOTE]On a directly related topic:
[B]Trump terminates Election Assistance Commission members.
July 10, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-terminates-election-assistance-commission-members-2026-07-10/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Election Assistance Commission serves as a "national clearinghouse of information on election administration," accredits *testing laboratories and certifies voting systems, and maintains the national mail voter registration form developed by the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, according to the commission's website.
The terminations follow Trump and top administration officials' advocacy to change vote-by-mail requirements and investigations into the 2020 election outcome, which Trump lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
"It is irresponsible and dangerous that this Administration remains dead set on causing chaos for our election officials across this country," Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes said in a Thursday statement. "This move undermines the integrity of nonpartisan election administration."[/QUOTE]Yep, he is still on his, say it with me folks, "defund and remove" rampage that always turns out very badly for America and the rest of the World; Repub Trump's Pandemic re the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams leadership, Repub Trump's Forever War of Choice in the Middle East Based on a Repub Lie re the Obama / Kerry Anti-Nuke Iran Deal, Trump's Search For His Next Pandemic, Maybe Ebola This Time re effective communication programs among the Pandemic monitoring agencies, etc.
And now we can add this to the list.
Repub Trump continues to wage his War Against America and Democracy by violence, as in J6, or by unprecedented executive action due to his and his Repub Party's hatred for voting in free and fair elections by ordinary American citizens.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073801]Are you upset because Trump hasn't ended Biden war in Ukraine? This isn't Trump war but it will end before his term. Probably sooner than later. You just can't admit Trump has been so successful in stopping so many wars and you can't accept the fact that Trump saved France and Europe from Iran nuclear threat. An intelligent person would recognize that the world is safer without terrorism.[/QUOTE]You are in same delirium than senile Trump the loser. He promised to stop Ukraine war in 1 day, what is real fact after 1 year and half, when he only stopped to help Ukraine and DT BJ so much Putin who has photos of him with prostitutes in Moscow. Before Trump, no problem in Ormuz pass and mollahs never attacked Europe nor USA, as reported CIA, do You know CIA? Who instructed Bin Laden in past. When I support Spain, after Greenland, Germany and even Gaza who are not Esbollah, let us know 8 Trump peaces, to entertain us. Venezuela petrol robbery? Trump is lucky to have such fanatics, when 60% US Americans disagree with him, also real figure reported. Our world would be much better and safer and for pollution which kill more than mollahs and Putin, without your crazy dangerous Trump.
[QUOTE=Canada;3073801]Are you upset because Trump hasn't ended Biden war in Ukraine? This isn't Trump war but it will end before his term. Probably sooner than later. You just can't admit Trump has been so successful in stopping so many wars and you can't accept the fact that Trump saved France and Europe from Iran nuclear threat. An intelligent person would recognize that the world is safer without terrorism.[/QUOTE]I don't know one European leader who can stand Trump aside from that commie Putin. He probably doesn't like Trump anyway because the Russians are aligned with the Iranians. How do you explain that? Anyone who believes that a ground war can be done in Iran in less than 2 years has to be using drugs. It's impossible and air strikes alone can't accomplish this.
Meanwhile, we hear that the fearless Trump had switch planes as the hand-me down plane accepted by Trump is unsafe for him to use. The American taxpayer got duped into spending 1 billion dollars to retrofit a "free" plane that is useless outside of the United States.
We ought to make Trump pay for plane out of his own pockets. That cheap bastard!
[QUOTE]Trump's actions would lead to massive inflation because of higher oil prices and food shortages due to a lack of fertilizer.[/QUOTE][B]They will![/B] The Fed will raise interest rates three times before the year ends. Inflation is running at 4. 1% annually. The oil shock will take six months to flow through the economy. Food prices will be up 30% in the Dis United States of America, before the end of the year.
I'm on the record. On January 1, 2027, call me out if I'm wrong. I'll stand and take my grade.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3073933][B]They will![/B] The Fed will raise interest rates three times before the year ends. Inflation is running at 4. 1% annually. The oil shock will take six months to flow through the economy. Food prices will be up 30% in the Dis United States of America, before the end of the year.
I'm on the record. On January 1, 2027, call me out if I'm wrong. I'll stand and take my grade.[/QUOTE]Hi SubCmdr, how you doing? I think a lot of shit can happen between now and the end of the year which means almost anything could happen. Meanwhile, I just got back from a fun 5 week trip to SP and right now I am relaxing pool side, having a good time in the free state of Florida, eating my tree ripened mangos, and watching the madness unfurl elsewhere while my stock portfolio keeps going higher.
So, I am up for a little gentleman' s wager if you are:
1) I do not believe overall food prices will rise even close to 30% by the end of the year, so I am willing to bet a 1st round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that overall food prices will not increase 30% by the end of 2026.
2) I think the odds are more like 50/50 that the Fed will raise rates only one time before the end of the year, maybe not even that, so I will bet you a 2nd round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Fed does not raise rates more than one time during the rest of the year.
3) I will also bet you a third round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Republicans keep their majority in the House and Senate.
Care to wager? No losers with these bets because by the time we get to the 3rd round we will all be having a good time.
A. H.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073842]Despite the fact that Repub so-called president Donald Trump can't keep the presidents of Russia Russia Russia and Ukraine straight in his head or which Islamic Republic country he is currently losing his War of Choice based on a Repub lie against, it turns out Dem President Joe Biden's almost single-handed international rally of support for Ukraine after Russia Russia Russia's Putin stupidly invaded a sovereign nation in his effort to destroy democratic governance around the world and replace it with Communism, something Donald Trump has always thought and openly characterized as "very smart", appears to be paying off as a historic show of support for freedom and democracy by a USA president perhaps leading to a resounding win for the good guys and defeat of the bad guys..[/QUOTE]The scumbag had the temerity to blame having lived in Siam for his crimes.
[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/CXLHIt5NkS8?si=riDY1oV4xSB73FzT[/URL]
Or maybe even Big John in 2028.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/10/john-fetterman-dave-mccormick-fundraising-committee[/URL]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]Hi SubCmdr, how you doing?[/QUOTE]I am outstanding!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]I think a lot of shit can happen between now and the end of the year which means almost anything could happen. Meanwhile, I just got back from a fun 5 week trip to SP and right now I am relaxing pool side, having a good time in the free state of Florida, eating my tree ripened mangos, and watching the madness unfurl elsewhere while my stock portfolio keeps going higher.
So, I am up for a little gentleman' s wager if you are:
1) I do not believe overall food prices will rise even close to 30% by the end of the year, so I am willing to bet a 1st round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that overall food prices will not increase 30% by the end of 2026.[/QUOTE]What is the index that will be used to judge the price of food increase in the Dis United States of America from July 2026 to December 2026?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]2) I think the odds are more like 50/50 that the Fed will raise rates only one time before the end of the year, maybe not even that, so I will bet you a 2nd round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Fed does not raise rates more than one time during the rest of the year.[/QUOTE]This one is easy as the Fed moves will be on record.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]3) I will also bet you a third round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Republicans keep their majority in the House and Senate.[/QUOTE]I don't give a fuck about politics. I don't believe politics or politicians are an effective way to change the system.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]Care to wager? No losers with these bets because by the time we get to the 3rd round we will all be having a good time..[/QUOTE][B]Number three is no bet:[/B] Reason why is covered above.
Here are my terms: Loser buys round the round for each bet we agree upon. Winner determines location where the bet is paid. Should be pretty easy to know where I am going to pick. Also, note I will not travel in order to make payment if I lose.
Currently there are only two bets in play (#1 after determining the index that will be used to determine food prices) and #2. If I lose I'm not buying drinks for three bitches you pick. I don't need anyone to buy drinks for bitches I pick. Bringing bitches into play adds a degree of complexity I am not interested in engaging in. As there are so few people in this world I like to party with at this time in my life. Perhaps if I knew you better. But for now we keep it simple. The way true gentlemen do. Just like in the movie [U]Trading Places[/U]. Of course the ravages of inflation will cause our bet to a materially higher amount. ROTFLMAO!
[B]Your move Mr. AxelHeyst![/B]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3073674]A US epidemiologist was embedded with the Chinese CDC. The Trump administration discontinued the position.[/QUOTE]That again? So this one epidemiologist had the answer for the pandemic? What is his name, and what was his solution? If he had the answer, why didn't Biden hire him and stop the pandemic?
And Bob Woodward? You mean the CIA hack who caused a coup in our country with Richard Nixon and according to Bill Murray made up a completely fictionalized account of the death of John Belushi?
And so you think Trump is this great intellect now? He was not exaggerating? He was not listening to epidemiologists telling him what he wanted to hear? Namely, the epidemiologists were telling Trump the virus spreading was all China's fault.
It amazes me how brain dead you are even now. The epidemiologists, the very people you think could have saved the world and the ones Trump fired, were the ones who created the virus and moved it to China in the first place. You have such TDS that you do not see how these same epidemiologists wanted to point the spotlight anywhere but on them.
And you are such a sucker with your TDS, you bought that lie hook, line, and sinker. For the hundredth time, what specific action could Trump, the Chinese, or the epidemiologists have undertaken that would have stopped the pandemic in its tracks? By this time, it is pretty obvious that you do not have an answer to that question. You are just blaming Trump because you want to.
Back when Trump allegedly said what he did, Covid was being treated with isolation. The epidemiologists swore that the reason the virus was still spreading was due to people not being compliant. The Chinese did what the epidemiologists swore would work. They literally locked people in their homes with Covid, and the virus still spread! But you are still so full of it you are saying, "Oh, those epidemiologists knew what to do," You know the Cochrane review showed masks do not work? You know that Fauci has admitted that he literally made up the 6 foot rule right? But you still believe these fucking liars had the answer!
And what is so irresponsible about your delusional TDS rant is the very people responsible for the pandemic, the government epidemiologists, got away with it because delusional people like you can only blame Trump about any government shortcomings. Everyone else in government are angels.
If Fauci did not cause the pandemic, then why was Fauci given a pardon? Let me guess. That is Trump's fault too.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]Hi SubCmdr, how you doing? I think a lot of shit can happen between now and the end of the year which means almost anything could happen. Meanwhile, I just got back from a fun 5 week trip to SP and right now I am relaxing pool side, having a good time in the free state of Florida, eating my tree ripened mangos, and watching the madness unfurl elsewhere while my stock portfolio keeps going higher.
So, I am up for a little gentleman' s wager if you are:
1) I do not believe overall food prices will rise even close to 30% by the end of the year, so I am willing to bet a 1st round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that overall food prices will not increase 30% by the end of 2026.
2) I think the odds are more like 50/50 that the Fed will raise rates only one time before the end of the year, maybe not even that, so I will bet you a 2nd round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Fed does not raise rates more than one time during the rest of the year.[/QUOTE]Did you really have to quote SC? Now, I have to sign out and read the BS he wrote. It is like 10% information and 90% his bragging about his race and dick size. And after reading it, 10% was generous. First off, he does not even get point #1. The reason there will be food shortages (and presumably food inflation) was due to decreased fertilizer being supplied from the Middle East.
The three main components of fertilizer are phosphorous, potassium or potash, and nitrogen / urea. It is the last one that the Middle East specializes in and the reason so much nitrogen fertilizer is produced in the Middle East is the abundant natural gas reserves. Of course, the USA is swimming in natural gas and is the last place therefore that the Gulf War would affect with regards to a lack of fertilizer / food but as anyone should know by now SC does not specialize in fundamentals.
Of course, you could have floods, droughts, ETC that affect food prices that cannot be accounted for, and that is why the gamble is a gamble, but the idea that the Gulf War causes USA food prices to go up is crazy.
For the record, Peter Zeihan, who is basically selling the CIA version of events to the world, said that the Ukraine war would lead to famine as well. Given that Russia and Belarus control so much of the world's potash reserve, that prediction actually had more potential to be true, but even that was wrong. But once again, the USA is isolated from a supply crunch there as well because we get so much of our potash from Canada.
So while no one can say with certainty what food prices will do, SC's reason for higher food prices in the USA is dead wrong, but that is to be expected with a guy who is "investing" in momentum trades. If you cannot tell me why something you bought went up, that is your winning a gamble not your being smart.
As for inflation and oil prices working their way into overall prices in the future, I have to just shake my head at that. Oil prices are down now. More importantly, the oil futures markets completely yawned at the Gulf War to the point that some were saying that the USA government was rigging the prices. Airliines lock in prices via futures markets all the time. So if you locked in $50 oil and the price spikes to $100, you make a killing. IOW, the idea is we see inflation because higher oil prices means higher plane fares, but that is not the case if the airlines locked in at a certain price of oil, and how many other big oil consumers locked in a cheap oil price? We don't know. And how do you know that the spike of oil prices a few weeks / months ago are not negated due to lower prices today? You cannot quantify that either. So here we go again. Another prediction that is based on nothing.
As for the Fed, you both assume that inflation is going to trump politics when they make their decisions and IMO nothing could be further from the truth. Trump's guy is now leading the Fed and unless inflation absolutely skyrockets led by a huge surge in energy prices, there is no way in hell he raises rates. Maybe there is some unforeseen reason, like massive droughts or flooding, that inflation goes way up, but as of now, I do not see anything out there.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3074160]Did you really have to quote SC? Now, I have to sign out and read the BS he wrote. >snip>
As for inflation and oil prices working their way into overall prices in the future, I have to just shake my head at that. Oil prices are down now. More importantly, the oil futures markets completely yawned at the Gulf War to the point that some were saying that the USA government was rigging the prices. Airliines lock in prices via futures markets all the time. So if you locked in $50 oil and the price spikes to $100, you make a killing. IOW, the idea is we see inflation because higher oil prices means higher plane fares, but that is not the case if the airlines locked in at a certain price of oil, and how many other big oil consumers locked in a cheap oil price? We don't know. And how do you know that the spike of oil prices a few weeks / months ago are not negated due to lower prices today? You cannot quantify that either. So here we go again. Another prediction that is based on nothing..[/QUOTE]1st, I feel your pain. Every time one of you guys quotes BKK Bob or one of the other resident lefties, I am exposed to couple lines of BS before I have the time to react and toggle down past the quote. KKK. But I enjoy reading your posts, Elvis, which I find informative and entertaining. Wish I could say the same about Bob's posts.
2nd, on the important subject of hyper-inflation and food prices as measured by the CPI-UU Food component, I consider the possibility that it will be running up to 30% year over year by the end of December 2026 to be extremely, extremely unlikely, but I didn't want to hit SubCmdr over the head with my "opinion". That's why I offered him a friendly Gentleman's wager and if I am wrong and I lose the wager, I will admit it over a few very strong drinks, KKK, and party on. But even more importantly, I will want to know how and why the US Economy went hyper and why I missed seeing the danger as late as July 2026.
3rd, yeah with Trump's guy at the head of the FED I see only one possible rate increase between now and the end of the year based on current data. But if the Fed does decide to raise interest rates, it most likely will not happen until after the election unless there is hard new evidence of significant new inflation growth. The most interesting fact of the last week was seeing oil prices decline and the stock market rally after the "truce" ended and the bombing of Iran resumed indicating the IRGC may be running out of cards to play and its ability to influence oil prices is waning. And this is very good news even for Trump haters even though they will never admit it.
[B]AxelHeyst[/B] you have a supporter that says your proposed bets are a sure thing!
[QUOTE]but that is to be expected with a guy who is "investing" in [b]momentum trades[/b]. If you cannot tell me why something you bought went up, that is your winning a gamble not your being smart.[/QUOTE]What is a momentum trade? Because I have never made one. Anyone who thinks they can say way exactly something happens in any market is simply delusional.
Here are some traditional ideas as to why markets go up:
[QUOTE]Its based on economic theory. The market is comprised of stocks in companies that are trying to generate a revenue. In a (relatively) free market, they should in aggregate generate wealth because they have an incentive to do so. If companies have profits, they will (eventually) distribute them. Investors, know this, but also they know that 1) there are risks involved, and 2) that all else equal, money you have today is better than money you have in the future. For that reason they buy future cash flows at a discount. For all of these reasons you would expect that (probably) the market will go up. Theres always the possibility that it doesnt and thats precisely why you can expect stocks to return more than other less risky investments over the long term. [/QUOTE]Why any particular item in said market went up is anyone's guess. If individuals knew why, then they would never make a bad trade.
[QUOTE]Markets go up over the long term primarily because corporate earnings and economic output grow. The stock market represents ownership in businesses that generate profit, and as these companies expand, innovate, and increase revenue, their intrinsic value rises, driving share prices higher.
Several key factors sustain this upward trajectory:
Economic Growth and Productivity: A growing population, technological advancements, and increased efficiency allow companies to produce more value, leading to higher aggregate profits.
Inflation: As the general price level of goods and services rises, the nominal value of corporate assets and earnings increases, pushing stock prices up in dollar terms.
Supply and Demand: Continuous buying pressure from investors seeking returns, often amplified by institutional flows and new market participants, exceeds selling pressure in expanding economies.
Market Self-Cleansing: Weak companies fail and are replaced by stronger, more profitable firms, ensuring the overall market index reflects the performance of the most successful businesses.
While short-term fluctuations are driven by market sentiment, interest rates, and geopolitical events, the long-term trend remains upward because capital requires a return on investment, incentivizing the allocation of resources to productive enterprises that generate wealth over time. [/QUOTE]But what do you expect from an individual who said I was a Socialist and that you should buy Bonds over NVDA, APPLE and GOLD.
[QUOTE]Bond prices fall when interest rates go up. This occurs because existing bonds with fixed, lower coupon rates become less attractive compared to new bonds issued at higher yields. To compete in the secondary market, the price of older bonds must dropoften trading at a discount below their face valueso that their effective yield rises to match current market rates.
The magnitude of this price decline depends on the bond's duration and time to maturity. Long-term bonds are more sensitive to interest rate changes than short-term bonds, meaning their prices will drop more sharply when rates rise. Investors who hold bonds to maturity generally avoid realizing these paper losses, but those who sell before maturity may incur principal losses.[/QUOTE]Fidelity Reports:
[QUOTE][u]The 2026 bond market reset[/u]
Several major economic crosscurrents converged on the bond market in the first half of the year.
Energy-market disruptions in the Middle East ignited an inflationary impulse. An exceptionally strong corporate earnings backdrop, along with a stabilizing job market, helped ease worries of an economic slowdown, and even stoked talk of a potential reacceleration. And the sum of those forcesadding up to a stronger, more inflationary environmentled investors to reassess whether the Fed would have any leeway to lower interest rates further this year, or might even have to raise interest rates instead.
Individually, each of those forces has generally put upward pressure on interest rates. Taken together, theyve driven a resetting of expectations of where interest rates might land, says Christine Thorpe, institutional portfolio manager on Fidelitys fixed income team.
After seeing significant volatility in much of the first half of the year, interest rates at almost all maturities have been settling into higher trading ranges. In mid-May, the rate on 10-year Treasurys broke out above 4.5%, while the rate on 30-year Treasurys crossed above 5%. And investors now see the odds tilting toward a Fed rate hike before the end of 2026a stark change from the start of the year, when investors expected 2 rate cuts.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/trading-investing/bond-market-outlook[/URL]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3073976]Hi SubCmdr, how you doing? I think a lot of shit can happen between now and the end of the year which means almost anything could happen. Meanwhile, I just got back from a fun 5 week trip to SP and right now I am relaxing pool side, having a good time in the free state of Florida, eating my tree ripened mangos, and watching the madness unfurl elsewhere while my stock portfolio keeps going higher.
So, I am up for a little gentleman' s wager if you are:
1) I do not believe overall food prices will rise even close to 30% by the end of the year, so I am willing to bet a 1st round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that overall food prices will not increase 30% by the end of 2026.
2) I think the odds are more like 50/50 that the Fed will raise rates only one time before the end of the year, maybe not even that, so I will bet you a 2nd round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Fed does not raise rates more than one time during the rest of the year.
3) I will also bet you a third round of drinks going to the winner and his favorite girls (limit 3 girls) that the Republicans keep their majority in the House and Senate.
Care to wager? No losers with these bets because by the time we get to the 3rd round we will all be having a good time.
A. H.[/QUOTE]Hi Axel, Since Subcmdr passed on #3, I'll take that action if you're so inclined. The Republicans may indeed hold the Senate, but they're going to get clobbered in the House. I feel strongly about that, and wouldn't feel right taking advantage of you. So, I'the propose this bet. As such time as I make it to Sao Paulo and you happen to be there, if you win (Republicans win both House and Senate) I'll buy you time with the hottest garota de programa at Scandallo, not to exceed 2000 reais. If you win, you just buy the round of drinks. Or we can do something mutually agreeable at another location.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3073454]LOL. Well, you really have no rights as a shareholder in the USA really until you acquire a big stake. This reminds of the Mark Cuban classic post here, [URL]https://blogmaverick.com/2008/09/08/talking-stocks-and-money/:[/URL] In July of 1998, my partner Todd Wagner and I took our company, [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL], public with Morgan Stanley. [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] used audio and video streaming to enable companies to communicate live with customers, employees, vendors, anyone with a PC.
Part of the process of taking a new company public is something called a road show. The road show is just that. A company getting ready to sell shares visits the big mutual funds, hedge funds, pension funds anyone who can buy millions of dollars of stock in a single order. It's a sales tour. 7 days, 63 presentations.
Prior to the road show, we put together an amazing presentation. We hired consultants to help us. We practiced and practiced. We argued about what we should and shouldn't say. We had Morgan Stanley and others ask us every possible question they could think of so we wouldn't look stupid when we sat in front of these savvy investors.
Savvy investors? I was shocked. Of the 63 companies and 400-plus participants we visited, I would be exaggerating if I said we got 10 good questions about our business and how it worked. The vast majority of people in the meetings had no clue who we were or what we did. They just knew that there were a lot of people talking about the company and they should be there.
The lack of knowledge at the meetings got to be such a joke between Todd and I that we used to purposely mess up to see if anyone noticed. Or we would have pet lines that we would make up to crack each other up. Did we ruin our chance for the IPO? Was our product so complicated that no one got it and as a result no one bought the stock? Hell no. They might not have had a clue, but that didn't stop them from buying the stock. We batted 1. 000. Every single investor we talked to placed the maximum order allowable for the stock.
On July 18,1998, [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] went public as BCST, priced at 18 dollars a share. It closed at $62.75, a gain of almost 250 percent, which at the time was the largest one day rise of a new offering in the history of the stock market. The same mutual fund managers who were completely clueless about our company placed multimillion orders for our stock. Multimillion dollar orders using your money.
Price-earnings ratios, price-sales, the present value of future cash flows, pick one. Fundamentals are merely metrics created to help stockbrokers sell stocks, and to give buyers reassurance when buying stocks. Even how profits are calculated is manipulated to give confidence to buyers.
I know that sounds crazy, but the stock market has gone from a place where investors actually own part of a company and have a say in their management, to a market designed to enrich insiders by allowing them to sell shares they buy cheaply through options. Companies continuously issue new shares to their managers without asking their existing shareholders. Those managers then leak that stock to the market a little at a time. It's unlimited dilution of existing shareholders' stakes, death by a thousand dilutive cuts. If that isn't a scam, I don't know what is. Individual shareholders have nothing but the chance to sell it to the next sucker. A mutual fund buys one million shares of a company with your and your coworkers' money. You own 1 percent of the company. Six weeks later you own less, and all that money went to insiders, not to the company. And no one asked your permission, and you didn't know you got diluted or by how much till 90 days after the fact if that soon.
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Oh, and as big of a scam as the overall American stock market is, the Chinese one is worse.
This is from a search on Chinese stock rights: Foreign investors generally have no direct ownership rights or legal recourse when buying Chinese stocks listed on USA Exchanges. Instead of owning shares in the actual Chinese operating company, investors purchase stock in an offshore Variable Interest Entity (VIE), typically a shell company registered in the Cayman Islands. This structure relies on contracts rather than equity ownership, meaning shareholders hold zero controlling interest and possess only a contractual claim to economic benefits that Chinese courts may deem unenforceable or illegal.
What cracks me up about this is that this is Geely is like Nvidia. You cannot make a case for the stock as really by law the stock is worthless, but if you gamble based on name recognition, then my bet would be Geely is the first Chinese car maker to come to market. They own Volvo and have the USA infrastructure. Trump has said he would let Chinese cars in as long as they were manufactured in the USA and the lower labor costs are not really what make Chinese cars cheaper.
If you want to look at fundamentals, you can see why the auto industry in China IS a scam: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_fJJxMjn4&t=632s[/URL].
Just like long term there is no way Nvidia can grow or deliver the numbers they are now, the car companies and China are going down. It will take awhile but they are doing much the same things as Japan did and going into massive debt.
However, in the short and medium term, yeah, the Chinese cars will blow the roof of foreign competitors like they have done in Chile and are doing in Mexico. As for why, it is the engineering talent is much cheaper and that so many of the supply chains are based in China. In this video, the youtuber describes why what takes 3 months for Europe to model takes 3 days in China because one part of China produces 90% of all consumer electronics. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talyf00Cl24[/URL]
When Ford looked at changing things in the cars, it took way longer and was way more expensive. The legacy auto companies really cannot compete with the Chinese.
Yeah, the Cherys are nice vehicles, but if you look at the top rated ones in Mexico, Geely cars are usually rated higher and because of the infrastructure with owning Volvo, I bet that Geely will be the first to market. I think that the Chinese companies have decided to dabble in Mexico first and then step up to the big leagues in the USA. Apparently, a lot of the Volvo engineers have been giving styling input on the Geelys and like I said, they do look really cool especially on the inside.
So yeah, Geely is a gamble but it is probably a good one.[/QUOTE]Hi Elvis, Several comments. Typically the hottest IPO's are allocated mostly to institutions, and the majority flip the shares early on. That's largely why the fund managers don't give a shit about the fundamentals of the business. They're going to take their allotment of [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] and sell it maybe on the first day. The institutions who get the IPO shares are typically the best customers of the investment banks (Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, et cetera) so that's why they get first shot. The investment banks purposely try to underprice the shares to reward their best clients (hedge funds and mutual funds and the like). The company that's going public and the retail investors who pay more the first day for the same shares are the ones who get screwed.
I would not buy shares in a variable interest entity. As I understand it, the legal status of VIE's is uncertain or worse in the PRC. The Chinese government could at any point make the shares of VIE investors worthless.
Insiders of companies listed on the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges are the least likely to engage in fraud. The reason is they can go to jail or worse.
The next safest would be H shares of Chinese companies listed in Hong Kong. Most of these are actually Cayman Islands or British Virgin Islands registered companies that own Chinese subsidiaries. These are a little dicey because the insiders occasionally bankrupt the Hong Kong parent and keep control of the Chinese subsidiaries. Geely and Chery are H shares.
The most dangerous are Chinese companies listed on foreign exchanges, like the USA, Australia, etc. A lot of those, I'the say the majority, turn out badly for investors.
The Geely entity traded in the USA is not a VIE. Rather it's an ADR or American Depository Receipt. To cater to investors who are unable to buy on the Hong Kong exchange, a USA bank will buy shares of the Geely, and then issue depository receipts to USA Investors. The bank holds the shares, and passes dividends, taking its cut, onto the holders of the ADR's. Anytime you want you can convert the ADR's to the H shares by paying a fee. I would buy the H shares instead, as trading liquidity is much better.
About the first video, I haven't looked at BYD but did take a quick look at Geely and Chery. While the speaker obviously has a lot of experience in China, I don't think he understand what's going on with payables. The companies at the top of the food chain, like the car manufacturers, are very slow paying suppliers, and treat the payables as free loans. I bet if you look at the accounts receivable turns of the auto parts companies, they conversely would look off the charts. I didn't see Geely or Chery as having problematic balance sheets. Chery in fact has 108 billion renminbi cash, higher than its 91 billion accounts payable. I'm not buying his claim of auto companies generating tons of fictitious revenues by delivering cars to dealers that they can't sell. If that were happening you should see off the charts accounts receivable and low operating cash flow, which isn't the case with Geely or Chery.
Geely is selling for 8. 2 X 2026 earnings, has an ROE of 19%, and dividend yield of 2. 7%. The dividend yield may seem skimpy, but given its growing revenues and profits at 20%+ per year, that's reasonable. They're using most of their income (actually free cash flow) to invest in growth instead of paying it out as dividends.
Chery's selling for 6. 4 X 2026 earnings, has an ROE of 49% and dividend yield of 3. 7%. Likewise it's growing.
Compare to Tesla at 231 X earnings, 5% ROE, no dividend, and flat or negative growth since 2023. Admittedly the market is giving them more credit for pie in the sky like self driving cars and robots than EV's. Still, which of these three shares look more like pieces of paper (if you had share certificates) than interests in a business?
Please note the parent company of Geely owns Volvo, not Geely. Still as you pointed out there are benefits from the Volvo connection. They guy who runs Geely looks about average for China in terms of how he treats minority shareholders. Meaning you're more likely to get screwed than with a USA Company with a large float.
I don't know if Chery or Geely are buys, but they're a lot more interesting than Tesla. If as you suspect Geely becomes the Toyota of Japan it's probably cheap.
The big risk is dog eat dog competition in Chinese cars, which has already surfaced and which may destroy margins and returns. Please note this runs counter to your view about other industries, that the Chinese may cut prices to dirt cheap, put the competition out of business, and then raise prices sky high. I don't think this will ever happen in autos. But in say rare earth materials and magnets, yeah, that's very logical.
In the accounting realm, it's probably not payables and inventory stuffing that are the most worrisome. Capitalizing R&D to jack up earnings may be though. I don't know, again I haven't looked at this closely.
Thanks again for your thoughts on Geely. When I get some time I'm going to take a closer look.
As to the second video by the same presenter, he's spot on. He illustrates my point, why do you want to jack up tariffs sky high on items like socks and toys, so the Chinese move production to Vietnam or wherever? And it illustrates your point that the haphazard way Trump implemented tariffs was stupid.
In China you have the "ecosystem", the suppliers and manufacturers located close to each other, and they're extremely efficient and competitive. As he put it, "you can move a factory in a year, but it takes 40 years for an ecosystem. " His advice to American companies buying Chinese products: "Ask your supplier where a product is made. Go there and you'll find 50 people on the same street making the same thing. " So anyway, for products we'll never make in the USA and which aren't strategic, like socks, why run up the cost on American consumers by forcing the Chinese to reproduce these ecosystems in other countries. Contrary to what Trump pays, it's not the Chinese who ultimately carry most of the burden to build the new factories in Vietnam. It's the Walmart shopper.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3074148]That again? So this one epidemiologist had the answer for the pandemic? What is his name, and what was his solution? If he had the answer, why didn't Biden hire him and stop the pandemic?
And Bob Woodward? You mean the CIA hack who caused a coup in our country with Richard Nixon and according to Bill Murray made up a completely fictionalized account of the death of John Belushi?
And so you think Trump is this great intellect now? He was not exaggerating? He was not listening to epidemiologists telling him what he wanted to hear? Namely, the epidemiologists were telling Trump the virus spreading was all China's fault.
It amazes me how brain dead you are even now. The epidemiologists, the very people you think could have saved the world and the ones Trump fired, were the ones who created the virus and moved it to China in the first place. You have such TDS that you do not see how these same epidemiologists wanted to point the spotlight anywhere but on them.
And you are such a sucker with your TDS, you bought that lie hook, line, and sinker. For the hundredth time, what specific action could Trump, the Chinese, or the epidemiologists have undertaken that would have stopped the pandemic in its tracks? By this time, it is pretty obvious that you do not have an answer to that question. You are just blaming Trump because you want to.
Back when Trump allegedly said what he did, Covid was being treated with isolation. The epidemiologists swore that the reason the virus was still spreading was due to people not being compliant. The Chinese did what the epidemiologists swore would work..[/QUOTE]"Had the answer for the pandemic"?
Yeah, don't let one get started by alerting authorities about the earliest cases so tried and proven mitigating isolation and quarantine measures can be taken to prevent it from becoming a Pandemic. Is that too complicated for you? Hell, it wasn't even too complicated for Trump and he's the dumbest person to ever waddle into the Oval Office.
Bob Woodward's audio recording of Trump admitting if only someone had reported the initial Covid cases "two months earlier" we could have stopped it "easily" should not be believed because Woodword reports bad news about your idols?
It is astonishing how incapable of understanding or unwilling to understand the simplest points you MAGA Cultists are.
I can't even believe I am reading this but there it is; you think the people Trump defunded and removed from their station in China to alert the world to early cases of potential Pandemic-level viruses so that measures can be taken to prevent Pandemics from developing could have been "hired" back by President Joe Biden in 2021 to "stop the pandemic" that had already been raging worldwide for a year and deaths from were snowballing into at least a million in America alone?
Seriously?
Lololol. Sorry to laugh. But good lord man you MAGAs are dumb.
Here's more.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]The team Trump removed had a record of successfully identifying viruses[/b]
+3
You are referring to the PREDICT project, a global early-warning system funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). Over its operational span, the initiative identified over 1,200 viruses with pandemic potential, including more than 160 novel coronaviruses, before its funding was allowed to lapse.
The PREDICT Project and Viral Discovery Launched in 2009, the PREDICT project focused on identifying pathogens that could spill over from animal hosts to humans. Over a decade of field research, epidemiologists and wildlife veterinarians operating across more than 30 countries sampled animals and people to map out potential viral threats. The initiative discovered hundreds of novel viruses, which notably included Ebolavirus, Marburg, and SARS-related coronaviruses.The program operated on the principle of proactive surveillancefinding and monitoring threats in "hot interfaces" where humans and wildlife interactto stop potential outbreaks before they spread globally.
[B]Program Conclusion. In September 2019, the funding for the initiative's fieldwork was allowed to run out under the Trump administration, leading to the layoff of scientists and analysts. While the administration later granted emergency extensions to help labs cope with the initial COVID-19 outbreak, the project's foundational predictive and proactive surveillance mission was discontinued.[/b]For a deeper look into how emerging viral threats are monitored and anticipated before they turn into global health crises:58sThe Next Pandemic Might Already Be DetectableYouTube**How to Survive ShowPredict (USAID) - WikipediaHistory. Predict was launched in 2009 in response following the influenza A virus subtype H5N1 "bird flu" outbreak in 2005. It was designed and overseen by Denn...WikipediaTrump administration ended pandemic early-warning program to detect ...Apr 2, 2563 BE The project, launched by the U.S. Agency for International Development in 2009, identified 1,200 different viruses that had the potential to erupt into pandemic...YahooPREDICT | School of Veterinary MedicinePREDICT's work has contributed to: * Strengthening global surveillance and laboratory diagnostic capabilities * Supporting preparedness and the Global Health Se...UC Davis One Health InstitutePREDICT Project | Wildlife Health Center / School of Veterinary MedicineThe PREDICT project's goal is to enable global surveillance for pathogens that could spillover from animal hosts to people. The project is building capacities t...UC DavisWhat happened to PREDICT? - PauboxDec 7, 2563 BE "PREDICT has made significant contributions to strengthening global surveillance and laboratory diagnostic capabilities for new and known viruses," reads a USAI...Paubox EmailProgram ended by Trump administration last year helped labs detect viruses that ...Apr 2, 2563 BE In September, the Trump administration ended a $200 million pandemic early-warning program called PREDICT that trained scientists in laboratories around the wor...The Week AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses[/QUOTE][B]Trump administration ended pandemic early-warning program to detect coronaviruses.
April 3, 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-ended-pandemic-early-233508840.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Two months before the novel coronavirus is thought to have begun its deadly advance in Wuhan, China, the Trump administration ended a $200-million pandemic early-warning program aimed at training scientists in China and other countries to detect and respond to such a threat.
The project, launched by the U.S. Agency for International Development in 2009, identified 1,200 different viruses that had the potential to erupt into pandemics, including more than 160 novel coronaviruses. The initiative, called PREDICT, also trained and supported staff in 60 foreign laboratories including the Wuhan lab that identified SARS-CoV-2, the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
Field work ceased when the funding ran out in September, and organizations that worked on the PREDICT program laid off dozens of scientists and analysts, said Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance, a key player in the program.[/QUOTE]Hey, I know! Maybe Trump can now "hire back" those scientists and analysts to "stop" him from launching a quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iran Based on a Lie.
Good idea, huh? Not too late, right?
Lolol.
No, Elvis, the next Dem President won't be able to "hire" these people to shove the diarrhea back up into the asses of Americans and make it all better.
Trump's Pandemic Part 2? It isn't a virulent rapid-spreading airborne virus so he probably isn't all that excited about it. But I can see how spreading parasites would be the right fit for Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repubs.
[B]Trumps CDC Stopped Monitoring Explosive Diarrhea Parasite Before Outbreak.
July 10, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cdc-food-net-monitoring-parasite-cyclospora-12180951[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Trump administrations Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) scaled back a federal-state partnership that monitors foodborne illnesses, including cyclospora, a year before several states began reporting an outbreak of cyclospora infection, a foodborne illness that can cause "explosive" diarrhea.
In July of 2025, the Foodborne Diseases Active Surveillance Network, known as FoodNet, reduced a program that tracked food poisoning infections. The required monitoring was cut down to two pathogens, down from eight. The program had been in place for three decades.
As of July 2026, cases of cyclosporiasis have surged across the country, with an abnormally large outbreak of 700 cases having been reported in Michigan, and cases having been recorded across 17 states.[/QUOTE]Most Trump supporters and anyone else who could have but did not vote for Kamala Harris in 2024 probably won't notice a difference between "explosive diarrhea" and what happens at a Trump rally or in their learned discussions about the economy, stock-trading, fossil fuel vs renewable energy, etc.
Investing in diaper manufacturing and sales companies might be a good idea right about now.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074227]Hi Elvis, Several comments. Typically the hottest IPO's are allocated mostly to institutions, and the majority flip the shares early on. That's largely why the fund managers don't give a shit about the fundamentals of the business. They're going to take their allotment of [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] and sell it maybe on the first day. The institutions who get the IPO shares are typically the best customers of the investment banks (Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, et cetera) so that's why they get first shot. The investment banks purposely try to underprice the shares to reward their best clients (hedge funds and mutual funds and the like). The company that's going public and the retail investors who pay more the first day for the same shares are the ones who get screwed.[/QUOTE]Another solid example of how the stock market is rigged. But the time IPO is available to the public all the initial investors are paid and the public (if they buy) get the crumbs that are left over and hope.
AH, You you propose a bet with me but instead talk [B]male bovine excrement [/B] with [I]Elvis2008[/I] about me. [B]Very ungentlemanly if you ask me[/B].
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]But I enjoy reading your posts, Elvis, which I find informative and entertaining.[/QUOTE]I completely disagree. Every post where [I]Elvis2008[/I] has responded to me or has something to say about me contains a insult that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Example:
From Elvis2008.
[QUOTE]Did you really have to quote SC? Now, I have to sign out and read the BS he wrote. It is like 10% information and 90% his bragging about his race and dick size. And after reading it, 10% was generous.[/QUOTE]Furthermore he has called me a Socialist. I don't care what people call me. I went to go get pasta at my favorite late night spot and got called a racial epitaph from a white farang (country of origin unknown). He wanted to fight me just because I am black and in a country he thinks is a personal playground for only individuals of his race. Very similar to [I]Elvis2008.[/I].
[B]POTUS is dabbling in Socialism right now[/B] With state ownership of corporate interests. WTF?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]2nd, on the important subject of hyper-inflation and food prices as measured by the CPI-UU Food component, I consider the possibility that it will be running up to 30% year over year by the end of December 2026 to be extremely, extremely unlikely, but I didn't want to hit [b]SubCmdr[/b] over the head with my "opinion". That's why I offered him a friendly Gentleman's wager and if [b]I am wrong and I lose the wager, I will admit it over a few very strong drinks[/b], KKK, and party on. But even more importantly, I will want to know how and why the US Economy went hyper and why I missed seeing the danger as late as July 2026.[/QUOTE]At least you will be willing to admit that you are wrong. Elvis does not. I have documented his errors in several threads all over ISG and he has yet to admit to them.
[B]The reason why you are going to miss the rise in inflation is because you are rich![/B]
Just like your boy Elvis2008 who flys to Latin America to be a [B]International Trick[/B] complaining about others who have paid into a system in the Dis United States of America and are not receiving benefits from it. You see the rich don't concern themselves with the problems of a [B]poor black man[/B] such as myself. Figure if I am going to be accused to something I'll give my accuser some thing to actually work with. The rich own assets which go up during inflationary times. They have the income to absorb food inflation without a problem. A [B]poor black man[/B] such as myself (and others black and non black) cannot do this without sacrifice.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]3rd, yeah with Trump's guy at the head of the FED I see only one possible rate increase between now and the end of the year based on current data. But if the Fed does decide to raise interest rates, it most likely will not happen until after the election unless there is hard new evidence of significant new inflation growth.[/QUOTE]We will see. This will be on the record. January. I see the Dis United States of America returning to this situation:
[QUOTE]Runaway inflation in the United States, known as the Great Inflation, persisted from the mid-1960s until the early 1980s, peaking at 14% by the end of the decade.
This period was characterized by stagflation, where high unemployment coexisted with rising prices, defying traditional economic models like the Phillips Curve.
Key drivers included OPEC oil embargoes (1973 and 1979) that caused supply shocks, expansionary monetary policy, and policy errors such as the failure of Nixons wage and price controls.*
*The inflationary spiral was only broken when Paul Volcker became Federal Reserve Chair in 1979 and aggressively raised interest rates to 20%, triggering a severe recession but ultimately restoring price stability.[/QUOTE]Don't really give a fuck about any of this stuff. Above my pay grade. I have positioned myself for the tidal wave that is going to hit most citizens of the Dis United States of America and drown them while the rich sit on their yachts and bet on who is going under first. [B]I've got my life raft on[/B].
Elvis2008 needs to stop lying about me and pulling statements out of his (insert color of your choice) just because he needs a lot of bleach to do his laundry (Think Racial Issues and the outfits they wear. Did anyone see him marching?
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
I trade based on [B]Elliot Wave Analysis[/B] which looks at price structure and levels. I no longer trade on the basis of fundamental analysis. From a fundamental analysis standpoint the indexes look over valued do me. From a EW analysis basis a correction of 20 to 40% is in the cards. I've already sold off of the majority of my stock portfolio. The remaining stocks I hold are in highly focused in the area I believe will endure through the AI decimation of companies.
Here is a link to [B]MSTR[/B] EW Analysis:
[URL]https://youtu.be/qlZPj86_DXE?si=bXNXS4Vw__c3V6Kr[/URL]
How does this relate to American Politics? The Stock Market of the Dis United States of America is rigged. POTUS is moving the country towards Socialism (state ownership of assests).
And.
The Dis United States of America is a [U]Plutocracy.[/U]. Only those who own hard assets will benefit when the reset occurs. It will not be televised.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]The most interesting fact of the last week was seeing oil prices decline[/QUOTE]So when WTI price bounces back into the 80's who will catch the blame for that? Democrats?
Can you or your boy [I]Elvis2008[/I] give me a credible reason why Trump should get credit for the movement of the price of oil?
[B]I'm listening![/B]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074225]Hi Axel, Since Subcmdr passed on #3, I'll take that action if you're so inclined. The Republicans may indeed hold the Senate, but they're going to get clobbered in the House. I feel strongly about that, and wouldn't feel right taking advantage of you. So, I'the propose this bet. As such time as I make it to Sao Paulo and you happen to be there, if you win (Republicans win both House and Senate) I'll buy you time with the hottest garota de programa at Scandallo, not to exceed 2000 reais. If you win, you just buy the round of drinks. Or we can do something mutually agreeable at another location.[/QUOTE]Hey Tiny, that is quite a generous proposition considering that approximately 300 br of Scandallo's 500 br entry fee is consumable after 7 pm and 100% consumable before 7 pm, so in effect you are offering me 10 to 1 odds. Are you sure you want to place this bet? I am not interested in taking your money, so I will tell you right now that if we make this wager, I will not seek out a 2,000 br girl because I never do. The sweet spot for me at Scandallo is between 800 br and 1000 br for very attractive girls, not the so-called super stars and the most I have ever given a Scan girl was 1200 br for ST. To put it in context, I give my #1 Scandallo girl 900 br for our particular version of "modified ST" which (we don't watch the clock) effectively means 5 to 7 hours and 2 or 3 shags and we do not do sleepovers by mutual consent. KKK /555.
In any case, you are on if you want to make the wager. I just returned from SP about 10 days ago and I have already booked my next SP trip in October. It would be outstanding to meet you in SP then if possible. But I am also seriously thinking about doing the "BIG TRIP": MIA to BKK (and Pattaya) / BKK to CGK / CGK to PNH to BKK / BKK to GRU / and finally GRU to MIA. And my plan is to arrive in BKK immediately after Songkran and get to SP before May 22 in order to celebrate Valeria's 30th birthday. So, either way we should be able to hook up, Buddha willing of course.
A. H.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074287]So when WTI price bounces back into the 80's who will catch the blame for that? Democrats?
Can you or your boy [I]Elvis2008[/I] give me a credible reason why Trump should get credit for the movement of the price of oil?
[B]I'm listening![/B][/QUOTE]One of the main reasons is when Trump won the presidency he encouraged oil drilling and USA now is producing 13,500,000 barrels per day. Also reduced regulations for the oil companies now make it possible to make good money at $72 a barrel. Chevron said profits are good enough at $72 a barrel to drill, do exploration and to make capital improvements worldwide. I expect a glut of oil in next year and see prices in the $60-$65 range.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074272]Elvis2008 needs to stop lying about me and pulling statements out of his (insert color of your choice) just because he needs a lot of bleach to do his laundry (Think Racial Issues and the outfits they wear. Did anyone see him marching?
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
I trade based on [B]Elliot Wave Analysis[/B] which looks at price structure and levels. I no longer trade on the basis of fundamental analysis. From a fundamental analysis standpoint the indexes look over valued do me. From a EW analysis basis a correction of 20 to 40% is in the cards. I've already sold off of the majority of my stock portfolio. The remaining stocks I hold are in highly focused in the area I believe will endure through the AI decimation of companies..[/QUOTE]The USA markets are very strong right now. Gains in the last 18 months have been amazing and will continue once Trump economic programs kick off. There are billions of dollars of new factories being built in steel, cars and technology with the increased investment in America. The only thing that may slow the markets is if the democrats win the mid terms. Hopefully not but if they do it will probably only be the house and not the senate. As dumb as the democrats are right now I feel good about republicans keeping the house and senate. The worst thing a person could have done was get out of the market in the last 2 years. It has been a huge win for the market and Americans with 401 retirement in last 18 months.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3074229]Yeah, don't let one get started by alerting authorities about the earliest cases so tried and proven mitigating isolation and quarantine measures can be taken to prevent it from becoming a Pandemic.
It is astonishing how incapable of understanding or unwilling to understand the simplest points you MAGA Cultists are.[/QUOTE]To the contrary, it is amazing how dumb you Dems continue to be. You still are yapping about quarantines? I am sorry. Where did quarantines actually fucking work with Covid?
And China had no incentive to quarantine on their own? Yeah, the Chinese were so stupid that it would take one American epidemiologist to tell them to quarantine. This is not just TDS. It is so racist it is not even funny. One thing I get with you Tooms is the dumber you get, the more cocky you get.
The reason Fauci was pardoned is that he went around an Obama executive branch order and started doing gain of function research on his own. He paid for the creation of the Covid virus. He made certain it was engineered to be so contagious that quarantines would not work. And once the virus was mistakenly leaked from a lab, he did all in his power to say the virus came from nature. And he repeatedly lied under oath about funding with regards to his virus and his taxpayer funded coverup. Hell, he even had so much influence that we now know that the CIA and FBI initially backed off saying Covid was a lab leak.
If Fauci ever went to trial and a jury objectively looked at the facts, he would be in prison for life if not executed. But you dumb Dems wanted to continue the fantasy of "Trump's pandemic" and so Biden pardoned this criminal. Meanwhile, you dumb Dems searched Melania's sock drawer, engaged in POS crock civil cases against Trump, and then came up with this crazy criminal offense that was literally invented.
So Fauci pays for creation of a virus that makes billions sick and kills millions, but you are okay with that. Trump paid off a porn star not to talk, which is legal BTW, and you dumb Dems cooked that up to be a crime because how he filed the paperwork was wrong. Unfuckingbelievable.
And you think you Dems lost in 2024 because of Muslims? You are mentally ill.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074227]Hi Elvis, Several comments. Typically the hottest IPO's are allocated mostly to institutions, and the majority flip the shares early on. That's largely why the fund managers don't give a shit about the fundamentals of the business. They're going to take their allotment of [URL]Broadcast.com[/URL] and sell it maybe on the first day. The institutions who get the IPO shares are typically the best customers of the investment banks (Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, et cetera) so that's why they get first shot. The investment banks purposely try to underprice the shares to reward their best clients (hedge funds and mutual funds and the like). The company that's going public and the retail investors who pay more the first day for the same shares are the ones who get screwed.
I would not buy shares in a variable interest entity. As I understand it, the legal status of VIE's is uncertain or worse in the PRC. The Chinese government could at any point make the shares of VIE investors worthless.
Insiders of companies listed on the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges are the least likely to engage in fraud. The reason is they can go to jail or worse..[/QUOTE]That is way better than I thought. At the end of the day, you can have these laws in place but there are so many ways to get around them. What I learned with the Wall Street type is they defer trust to management but if you screw the street, they rarely forget. IOW, management's reputation is more important than the laws. I was amazed at how many ding-aling con men there are as CEOs but when I actually met someone who knew what they were doing and what they talked about, their companies almost always did well. Anyway, I will do a deep dive on these Chinese car companies although I always tend to be way early on things, but you have persuaded me to take them off the no go list.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074227]About the first video, I haven't looked at BYD but did take a quick look at Geely and Chery. While the speaker obviously has a lot of experience in China, I don't think he understand what's going on with payables. The companies at the top of the food chain, like the car manufacturers, are very slow paying suppliers, and treat the payables as free loans. I bet if you look at the accounts receivable turns of the auto parts companies, they conversely would look off the charts. I didn't see Geely or Chery as having problematic balance sheets. Chery in fact has 108 billion renminbi cash, higher than its 91 billion accounts payable. I'm not buying his claim of auto companies generating tons of fictitious revenues by delivering cars to dealers that they can't sell. If that were happening you should see off the charts accounts receivable and low operating cash flow, which isn't the case with Geely or Chery.[/QUOTE]Buffett got out of BYD after owning a big and profitable stake. There was something he didn't like, but I am not interested in BYD. They got a bigger name but I do not think they are all that great.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074227]Geely is selling for 8. 2 X 2026 earnings, has an ROE of 19%, and dividend yield of 2. 7%. The dividend yield may seem skimpy, but given its growing revenues and profits at 20%+ per year, that's reasonable. They're using most of their income (actually free cash flow) to invest in growth instead of paying it out as dividends.
Chery's selling for 6. 4 X 2026 earnings, has an ROE of 49% and dividend yield of 3. 7%. Likewise it's growing.
Compare to Tesla at 231 X earnings, 5% ROE, no dividend, and flat or negative growth since 2023. Admittedly the market is giving them more credit for pie in the sky like self driving cars and robots than EV's. Still, which of these three shares look more like pieces of paper (if you had share certificates) than interests in a business?[/QUOTE]Tesla is probably the least interesting of Musk's businesses IMO. Just to show you how early I am, I heard of people bragging about Teslas like in 2015,2016, and they were crap back then BTW with all kind of quality issues. From a valuation standpoint, Chery and Geely look scrumptious. I get why Geely is ahead of Chery. Chery is like a Chevy and I liken Geely more to like a Lincoln.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074227]The big risk is dog eat dog competition in Chinese cars, which has already surfaced and which may destroy margins and returns. Please note this runs counter to your view about other industries, that the Chinese may cut prices to dirt cheap, put the competition out of business, and then raise prices sky high. I don't think this will ever happen in autos. But in say rare earth materials and magnets, yeah, that's very logical.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, I am not thinking of profits in China. If the car companies break even there, that would be fine with me. Chile is one of the few nations in the worlds that does not have tariffs on cars and they give you a reliable indicator of how cheap Chinese cars in theory could be. In Mexico, they are a little cheaper versus a lot cheaper in Chile due to the Mexican tariff structure.
Right now, the American car consumer does not know how badly they are being ripped off. If you see what you can get in China for 50 grand versus what you can get in the USA, it would make the consumer mad. As of now, the car tariffs are holding but once that dam breaks, and I think it is inevitable that it will, you will start to see Chinese car companies making profits like crazy in the American market. That is the growth I would be investing in. It is not even so much the new car sales, but the service departments are where dealers make their huge $.
The car snobs at the auto magazines are still making fun of Chinese cars, but just five or ten years ago, Chinese cars were junk. Despite the claims of the snobs, I was seeing real world people saying they were fine with Chinese quality. And today from what I have seen, there are features you did not get in legacy auto makers. So yeah, you have cheap stocks with the potential to explode. The problem is my guess is these explosion is five to ten years away.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]3rd, yeah with Trump's guy at the head of the FED I see only one possible rate increase between now and the end of the year based on current data. But if the Fed does decide to raise interest rates, it most likely will not happen until after the election unless there is hard new evidence of significant new inflation growth. The most interesting fact of the last week was seeing oil prices decline and the stock market rally after the "truce" ended and the bombing of Iran resumed indicating the IRGC may be running out of cards to play and its ability to influence oil prices is waning. And this is very good news even for Trump haters even though they will never admit it.[/QUOTE]That is a good point. There is time to raise rates after the midterms. The Fed could do that then though I see more lower inflation then. It is amazing to see the energy market yawning at the Strait of Hormuz being closed. For sixty years, this was the nightmare energy scenario. Probably the biggest mistake Iran made was attacking its neighbors. They and China and other nations are making adjustments such that their wealth is not dependent on the unstable and crazy Iranian leadership. What has amazed me is how quickly this is being done.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3074231]No, Elvis, the next Dem President won't be able to "hire" these people to shove the diarrhea back up into the asses of Americans and make it all better.
Trump's Pandemic Part 2? It isn't a virulent rapid-spreading airborne virus so he probably isn't all that excited about it. But I can see how spreading parasites would be the right fit for Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repubs.
[B]Trumps CDC Stopped Monitoring Explosive Diarrhea Parasite Before Outbreak.
July 10, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cdc-food-net-monitoring-parasite-cyclospora-12180951[/URL]
Most Trump supporters and anyone else who could have but did not vote for Kamala Harris in 2024 probably won't notice a difference between "explosive diarrhea" and what happens at a Trump rally or in their learned discussions about the economy, stock-trading, fossil fuel vs renewable energy, etc.
Investing in diaper manufacturing and sales companies might be a good idea right about now.[/QUOTE]Alzheimer's?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074287]So when WTI price bounces back into the 80's who will catch the blame for that? Democrats?
Can you or your boy [I]Elvis2008[/I] give me a credible reason why Trump should get credit for the movement of the price of oil?
[B]I'm listening![/B][/QUOTE]I think you are missing the big global picture. It is not about oil per say. It is about the existential threat the Iranians posed to the region, to Europe and to the USA. So, when a bunch of religious fanatics take over a country, imprison and torture their citizens, start terrorizing their neighbors and then they begin building nuclear centrifuges, it becomes obvious that these fanatics don't care about nuclear retaliation as long as they get to kill large numbers of their enemies. Thus, under these unique set of circumstances the defensive possession of nuclear weapons no longer serves as a deterrent. Trump ended the fanatical Mulla's nuclear weapons program just in the nick of time and he killed their top leaders responsible for building these nuclear weapons facilities and for financing most of the terrorism and murder in the region for the last 47 years. Enough is enough.
Yes, oil jumped higher after the Mullas were taken out in February and the IRCG began to block oil tankers from shipping in the straits. I mentioned the price of crude in my last post because it acts as a barometer for what is going on in this war and who is wining. Will crude go back up into the 80's in the short run? I don't know. Maybe. But it ain't going up to $150 a barrel and staying there and it ain't going to do any permanent damage the US Economy. I will bet on that because 1. It looks like the Iranians are finally about to lose their only advantage which was causing trouble in the Straits of Hormuz and that is not me talking, that is the consensus of the marketplace talking. 2. The oil producing countries in the region will in time develop alternate crude oil distribution methods (pipelines) that will bypass the straits entirely and leave the Iranians to fester in their own pre-industrial crap. In the meantime, America will continue to sell our oil to most of Iran's former customers as long as they remain friendly.
It is too early for victory parades, but a favorable outcome to this war is insight and I give Trump a hell of a lot credit for what he has done so far.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074084] What is the index that will be used to judge the price of food increase in the Dis United States of America from July 2026 to December 2026?
This one (#2) is easy as the Fed moves will be on record.
I don't give a fuck about politics. I don't believe politics or politicians are an effective way to change the system.
[B]Number three is no bet:[/B] Reason why is covered above.
Here are my terms: Loser buys round the round for each bet we agree upon. Winner determines location where the bet is paid. Should be pretty easy to know where I am going to pick. Also, note I will not travel in order to make payment if I lose.[/QUOTE]OK, let's keep it simple. Wager #1 & #2 are on #3 is out. I am not fussy about which index we use. The CPI-you seasonally adjusted month to month or the annual year over year unadjusted, either one is fine with me. But if you don't like CPI then suggest another well-known price index. I do not think different price indices will affect the end results of our wager very much, but we should decide on an index now anyway.
And if you don't want to include girly drinks as part of the wager, no problem. I will take care of whomever I am with and you can do the same on your end. BTW I don't have any particular place in mind because I have been away so long I am reluctant to name one. But I will probably come up with one after I am in town for a few days.
So, the 1st thing I plan to do when I return is to revisit all my favorite haunts from back when and then I will start to update my base to include any new places that I like. It's going to fun to be back. I am looking forward to it like a virgin. 555!
[QUOTE=Canada;3074338]The worst thing a person could have done was get out of the market in the last 2 years.[/QUOTE]Are you kidding me?
[QUOTE]Warren Buffetts Berkshire Hathaway is holding a record $397 billion in cash and short-term Treasury bills as of the end of Q1 2026.** This figure represents approximately one-third of the companys total market value and is the largest cash reserve in its history.
The primary drivers for this unprecedented cash hoard include:
High Market Valuations: Key metrics like the S&P 500 price-to-earnings ratio are significantly above historical norms, leading Buffett to view current stock prices as overvalued.
Lack of Attractive Opportunities: Buffett has stated that he cannot find large-scale investments that meet his strict criteria for margin of safety and circle of competence.
Strategic Selling: Berkshire has actively reduced its equity portfolio, notably cutting stakes in major holdings like Apple and Bank of America over recent quarters.
Insurance & Dry Powder: The cash serves as essential liquidity ("oxygen") to meet obligations and provides the capacity to make large acquisitions during future market downturns.
While some interpret the cash pile as a bearish signal, Buffett emphasizes that it reflects patience and discipline rather than a prediction of a crash, noting that he prefers to wait for "fat pitches" rather than compromise on valuation.[/QUOTE]Given a choice, I would rather trade on the basis of Elliot Wave than the WAGS (Wild Ass Guesses) based the advice given from those who don't really understand markets, those who have political biases, and those that think that politics control markets.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074372] Will crude go back up into the 80's in the short run? I don't know. Maybe. But it ain't going up to $150 a barrel and staying there and it ain't going to do any permanent damage the US Economy. [b]I will bet on that because[/b] 1. It looks like the Iranians are finally about to lose their only advantage which was causing trouble in the Straits of Hormuz and that is not me talking, that is the consensus of the marketplace talking. 2. The oil producing countries in the region will in time develop alternate crude oil distribution methods (pipelines) that will bypass the straits entirely and leave the Iranians to fester in their own pre-industrial crap. In the meantime, America will continue to sell our oil to most of Iran's former customers as long as they remain friendly.
It is too early for victory parades, but a favorable outcome to this war is insight and I give Trump a hell of a lot credit for what he has done so far.[/QUOTE]EW anaylsis shows a possible bounce into the 80 in the short term. Then a drop into the 60 - 65 range.
I agree Oil (In general) is not going to 150. But there is going to be a oil shock that no one sees coming. Inflation is already out of control being twice as high as target. I wasn't allowed to be off by 100% in my job when I was working. If I was people died, I wouldn't have a job anymore and would be probably writing this from jail right now.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074338]The USA markets are very strong right now. Gains in the last 18 months have been amazing and will continue once.The worst thing a person could have done was get out of the market in the last 2 years. It has been a huge win for the market and Americans with 401 retirement in last 18 months.[/QUOTE][B]A statement like this scares me![/B] The belief that markets only move in one direction. Blinded by political bias because his man or political party is in office. No one has made a factual argument that governments can control the movement of markets.
[B]Are you even old enough to ever have ridden out a bear market in anything?[/B]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3074340]To the contrary, it is amazing how dumb you Dems continue to be. You still are yapping about quarantines? I am sorry. Where did quarantines actually fucking work with Covid?
And China had no incentive to quarantine on their own? Yeah, the Chinese were so stupid that it would take one American epidemiologist to tell them to quarantine. This is not just TDS. It is so racist it is not even funny. One thing I get with you Tooms is the dumber you get, the more cocky you get.
The reason Fauci was pardoned is that he went around an Obama executive branch order and started doing gain of function research on his own. He paid for the creation of the Covid virus. He made certain it was engineered to be so contagious that quarantines would not work. And once the virus was mistakenly leaked from a lab, he did all in his power to say the virus came from nature. And he repeatedly lied under oath about funding with regards to his virus and his taxpayer funded coverup..[/QUOTE]Quarantines didn't "work" with Trump's Covid Pandemic? What the hell does that mean? Do you mean quarantines didn't work to miraculously make Trump's Pandemic "go away" in January 2021 and stop killing the people who foolishly believed Trump's lies about it for the previous year? Or do you mean that quarantines don't prevent airborne viruses from infecting new victims for lack of exposure to them?
LOL. Please enlighten us about the scientific premise of either or both of those ridiculous contentions.
And I have never said "the Dems lost in 2024 because of Muslims. " Only Kamala Harris. The one typically Dem-voting demographic in the only three swing states that mattered and where Musk millions were spent in those states to swing them along with Netanyahu's delay in honoring the ceasefire until after the election supports that assertion quite well.
In fact, "the Dems" didn't lose seats in the House of Representatives in 2024. They gained seats. And the only 2-3 Repub wins in the Senate were in Red States where the Dem was either retiring or where it was a fluke to have had a Dem Senator in those Red States anyway.
That's a piss poor showing for the "out of White House" Party in a year when much of the globe was experiencing major change elections. America did not experience that at the House level, barely at all at the Senate level and only in a squeaker of a razor-thin margin for a mixed-race female Dem candidate where every "winning" Electoral College vote for Trump came from a tiny handful of a swing of that one demographic on that one issue in the only three swing states that mattered.
Otherwise, no typically Dem-voting demographic on any or all other issues caused a typically Blue state to flip Red or to Trump or give him so much as a single "winning" Electoral College vote. Every "winning" EC vote came from PA, MI and WI and only by a swing of a fraction of 1 percentage point across those three swing states. And without the Muslim Community swinging their votes by 0.75 of a percentage point or roughly 114,900 of their hundreds of thousands of voters in those three swing states away from Harris due to their animosity toward the Biden Administration, Trump would not have won. Harris would have won.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074356]Alzheimer's?[/QUOTE]See, someone like me who posts on-point links and full, factual substantiation for his assertions, sometimes with accompanying charts, graphs and tables, which he then elaborate on to further substantiate his point does not in any way exhibit symptoms of Alzheimer's disease, dementia or cognitive incapacity.
However, people who repeatedly blather on with totally unsubstantiated nonsense and lies, typically so lacking in a link, an accompanying chart, graph or anything else to support their blithering blather that one could logically conclude at this late date they still have no idea how to cite, link, quote or post one on this American Politics forum, like you, Elvis, Tiny and coming on strong from behind, AH, do indeed exhibit serious cognitive incapacity.
There is a similar dynamic among presidents. A president. Who can clearly talk, walk, knows who he is, where he is and what he is doing as well as do what every president of the past several decades, hosts and MCs of public presentations must do; compose, read and understand every word, syllable, sentence, nuance, text and subtext of a speech as it rolls across a two-screen teleprompter, appearing casual and natural, conveying the meaning of every nuance and point of the text, as Joe Biden can do this very day, is miles and miles away from exhibiting signs of those mental disorders.
By stark contrast, a president who can't compose and read a speech on even a single screen teleprompter without mangling word after word, clearly having no idea what he is reading or what it means and instead has to resort to blathering on repeatedly and incoherently about lies that have been debunked dozens of times about the 2020 election being stolen from him, that Joe Biden doesn't know what he's doing or any new mentally deranged comment about "president Putin" sitting right next to him when it is actually president Zelenskyy or "the Islamic Republic of Japan" at a goddam NATO Conference, that gas prices have fallen since he took over, that the USA Stock Market has performed better in the past 18 months under him than it did in the previous 18 months under Biden, that the unemployment rate is at an all-time low, job gains at all time highs, wages rising at all-time highs under him, etc, the kind of stuff Trump does all the time, does indeed exhibit serious symptoms of Alzheimer's disease, dementia and cognitive incapacity.
In fact, Trump boasts about being required by his handlers to take a cognitive assessment test every other week or so. Clearly, there is something seriously wrong with him mentally.
Few surprises here:
[B]The best states to live in for 2026: No. 1 has a six-year winning streak[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/11/best-states-to-live-in-america-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Return to office mandates and a decline in remote work have companies looking more closely at the quality of life in the place where they establish offices.
That is because workers in many fields remain in short supply, which means companies need to do all they can to attract talent.
States are also emphasizing their quality of life in marketing approaches to lure companies, which is why CNBC is giving more weight to the Quality of Life category in the 2026 Americas Top States for Business study.
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To score the states for quality of life, we use hard data on factors like crime rates, air quality and healthcare. We also consider the cost and availability of childcare, inclusiveness of state laws, and reproductive rights. Some states do not make the grade when it comes to providing a great place for residents to live and work. The following states are Americas best places to live this year. [/QUOTE][B]These are Americas 10 worst states to live in for 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/11/worst-states-to-live-in-america-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Crime rates, air quality, healthcare access, worker protections, and civil rights laws are among factors that can hurt a state in quality of life rankings.
With more states touting their quality of life when trying to attract business, CNBC is giving it more weight in the 2026 Americas Top States for Business rankings.
Based on the data, quality of life in some states does not make the grade.
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To score the states for quality of life, we use hard data on factors like crime rates, air quality and healthcare. We also consider the cost and availability of childcare, inclusiveness of state laws, and reproductive rights. Some states offer exemplary quality of life. But these ten states do not make the grade. e[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]OK, let's keep it simple.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is important to keep things simple as I am just a poor black man trying to make it. I do not have the financial resources and intellectual capacity that men of privilege have such as yourself and your man Elvis2008.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]Wager #1 & #2 are on #3 is out. I am not fussy about which index we use. The CPI-you seasonally adjusted month to month or the annual year over year unadjusted, either one is fine with me. But if you don't like CPI then suggest another well-known price index. I do not think different price indices will affect the end results of our wager very much, but we should decide on an index now anyway.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]The U.S. Consumer Price Index (CPI) for Food was at 348.89 in May 2026, reflecting a 3.08% increase from the previous year. Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that the average annual growth rate for food prices is approximately 3.47%, with the index base period set to 1982-84=100.
Recent Trends and Context
Inflation Rate: The food inflation rate peaked at roughly 10% in 2022 and has since subsided to about 3% in recent years.
Year-over-Year Change: The index rose from 338.47 in May 2025 to 348.89 in May 2026, with a monthly increase of 0.16% from April 2026.
Long-Term Growth: Since tracking began in 1913, the CPI for Food has increased from a value of 9.917 to 347.21 in 2026, demonstrating significant cumulative price growth over more than a century.[/QUOTE][U]#2[/U]
I will probably lose this one because they are changing how the PCE is calculated starting in September of 2026. So the Dis United States of America have decided to game the numbers in order to give the FED room to not raise rates and letting the economy run hot or even lowering them. The bond market always sees through the [B]male bovine excrement[/B] manipulation.
[B]The long-term interest rates for U.S. Treasury Bonds (T-Bonds) are currently represented by yields of 5.08% for the 20-year bond and 5.07% for the 30-year bond as of July 13, 2026.[/B]
Ask your man Elvis2008 what happens to bond prices when interest rates go up.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]And if you don't want to include girly drinks as part of the wager, no problem. I will take care of whomever I am with and you can do the same on your end.[/QUOTE]Damn straight. Buy drinks for your own bitches. I'm not buying any for mine because I don't have any. You will be on vacation. Just another farang in Thailand on a wheels up clock. You need bitches. That is why you are coming.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]I don't have any particular place in mind because I have been away so long I am reluctant to name one. But I will probably come up with one after I am in town for a few days.[/QUOTE]You cannot name anyplace I cannot afford two drinks for you. It is your expenses that will go up if you buy drinks for your the multiple bitches that you want to gloat in front about your win.
If I win we are going to the [U]Bus Bar[/U] in Treetown.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074399]So, the 1st thing I plan to do when I return is to revisit all my favorite haunts from back when and then I will start to update my base to include any new places that I like. It's going to fun to be back. I am looking forward to it like a virgin. 555![/QUOTE]I hope you are not a white hoodie wearing mother fucker like your man Elvis2008. If you win and we go to a place where there are bare breasts hanging out and you start talking politics. I'm paying my bar bill for you and walking the fuck out. I have no patience for those who don't have their priorities in order. You keep that in mind.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=Canada;3074338]The worst thing a person could have done was get out of the market in the last 2 years. It has been a huge win for the market and Americans with 401 retirement in last 18 months.[/QUOTE][B]Why is it that people think the Stock Market is the end all and be all of investments?[/B]
[QUOTE]As of recent data, 37% of U.S. adults hold stocks, bonds, ETFs, or mutual funds in taxable brokerage accounts outside of retirement accounts like 401(k)s or IRAs, according to the Federal Reserve's 2025 Survey of Household Economics and Decision-making.*
This means that while roughly 58% of American adults own stock in some form (including through retirement plans), only about one-third of the population has invested in the market through a direct, non-retirement vehicle.*
The remaining majority of stock owners participate primarily through workplace retirement plans or individual retirement accounts rather than active brokerage trading.[/QUOTE]30% of workers in the Dis United States of America do not have a 401 K.
[QUOTE]As of 2024, approximately 70 million active participants were served by 401(k) plans, which held roughly $8.9 trillion in assets.
In terms of access, 71.5 million American workers had access to 401(k) accounts in 2023, representing about 67% of all US employees.
*Participation rates vary significantly by employment type, with 80% of union workers participating compared to 50% of nonunion workers.[/QUOTE]If I am one of those workers the stock market increase has done jack for me. Nor has it done anything for the 30% of my fellow hard working citizens of the Dis United States of America.
[U]But if you are POTUS:[/U]
[QUOTE]Donald Trump has made an estimated $1.4 billion to $2.2 billion in personal profit since returning to the presidency in January 2025, with his net worth surging by approximately $3 billion to reach between $6.5 billion and $7.3 billion by mid-2026.
The primary driver of this wealth accumulation is his family's cryptocurrency ventures, particularly World Liberty Financial, which generated over $1 billion in proceeds through token sales and foreign investments, including a significant deal with the UAE.
[b]Cryptocurrency and Business Ventures[/b] constitute the bulk of his earnings, with financial disclosures showing roughly $1.4 billion in crypto-related income alone from entities like World Liberty Financial and Celebration Coins.
Additional revenue streams include licensing his name to international hospitality projects, settling lawsuits with media and tech companies for multi-million dollar sums, and avoiding a $515 million penalty in a New York fraud case due to legal wins..[/QUOTE][I]Canada[/I], you need to put down your red, white and blue pom poms, step out of your cheerleading skirt and take a look at the reality for regular citizens of the Dis United States of America like this poor black man just trying make in a world that is easy for you due to privilege given to you from birth.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074473]Damn straight. Buy drinks for your own bitches. I'm not buying any for mine because I don't have any. You will be on vacation. Just another farang in Thailand on a wheels up clock. You need bitches. That is why you are coming.[/QUOTE]Why must you make everything you post sound like a personal insult? I don't need "bitches". I have a great sexy Brazilian Branca at my beck and call any time I want to see her. I am literally tearing myself away from her to reconnect with Thai girls. I like Thai working girls and I miss them. What's wrong with that? There is no one-way fits all standard of punting. Do what works for you. By your comments here it sounds like you are Wham Bam Thank Ya Ma'am kind of punter. There is nothing wrong with that style of play, I do it myself and I am a frequent daytime client in BKK oilies and SP clincas that provide this kind of service, but I am also into having GFE relationships with special girls who occasionally cross my path and these relationships can last a long time. If you don't like that style of play for whatever reason, then don't do it. But why criticize and put down those who do? I don't get that side of your personality.
On LOS: I love Thai food and I can't find any decent Thai restaurants in all of southern Florida. I also like the Thai Buddhist culture and the vibe. What else? I really like southern Thai island beaches. An interesting raw comparison would be Rio vs Phuket and guess what, Phuket has better beaches and better food if you prefer good Thai food over Rio's local and western cuisine. As for girls, I think that Rio, which is vastly inferior to Sao Paulo in this department, is still better than Phuket. That's my opinion anyway and I am sticking to it.
A. H.
"Suffragette City" by David Bowie.
Hey man, ah leave me alone, you know, you know. Hey man, I got to straighten my face. This mellow black chick just put my spine out of place.
Ah don't lean on me man, 'cause you can't afford the ticket. I'm back from Suffragette City.
Ah don't lean on me man. 'Cause you ain't got time to check it. You know my Suffragette City. Is out of sight, she's all right. A suffragette city, a suffragette city.
I'm back from Suffragette City, I'm back from Suffragette City. Oooh-haa, a suffragette city, suffragette.
Ahhh, Wham Bam Thank Ya Ma'am!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074485][B]Why is it that people think the Stock Market is the end all and be all of investments?[/B]
30% of workers in the Dis United States of America do not have a 401 K.
If I am one of those workers the stock market increase has done jack for me. Nor has it done anything for the 30% of my fellow hard working citizens of the Dis United States of America.
[U]But if you are POTUS:[/U]
[I]Canada[/I], you need to put down your red, white and blue pom poms, step out of your cheerleading skirt and take a look at the reality for regular citizens of the Dis United States of America like this poor black man just trying make in a world that is easy for you due to privilege given to you from birth.[/QUOTE]My family had no money. I left home 30 minutes after I graduated high school with $500 in my pocket and no job. I went to work on the oil rigs. I worked hard. Everyone in USA and Canada could have done the same regardless if they were white, black or any nationality. Being poor at birth did not give me any privilege. You could have done the exact same work I did. Oilfield work is dirty and hard and most people avoid dirty and difficult jobs but the ones that do are usually successful. I worked harder than most. Started my own business and hired hundreds of workers who all received 401 K retirement. Yes 30% of Americans do not have 401 K but 70% do and they have had a windfall the last 18 months. The opportunity for success in USA is much greater than any other country. Reality is a poor black man in USA has this opportunity if they work hard.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074446][B]A statement like this scares me![/B] The belief that markets only move in one direction. Blinded by political bias because his man or political party is in office. No one has made a factual argument that governments can control the movement of markets.
[B]Are you even old enough to ever have ridden out a bear market in anything?[/B][/QUOTE]Government has never controlled the markets but a governments bad policies and increased regulation can be very detrimental to the markets. A strong president and his policies that are beneficial to USA companies strengthen the markets as we have seen the last 18 months. I have ridden out several oil booms and busts and ridden out several bull and bear markets. Bear markets offer the investors great opportunities and that is where you can make your greatest gains. After every bear market a bull market appears. In a bear market you never sell. Just buy more.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074503]My family had no money. I left home 30 minutes after I graduated high school with $500 in my pocket and no job. I went to work on the oil rigs. I worked hard. Everyone in USA and Canada could have done the same regardless if they were white, black or any nationality. Being poor at birth did not give me any privilege. You could have done the exact same work I did. Oilfield work is dirty and hard and most people avoid dirty and difficult jobs but the ones that do are usually successful. I worked harder than most. Started my own business and hired hundreds of workers who all received 401 K retirement. Yes 30% of Americans do not have 401 K but 70% do and they have had a windfall the last 18 months. The opportunity for success in USA is much greater than any other country. Reality is a poor black man in USA has this opportunity if they work hard.[/QUOTE]Are you black? Do you really know any black people? Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade? These are important questions if you have the answers I would be happy to hear them. Have you ever heard of white privilege?
[QUOTE=Canada;3074503]My family had no money. I left home 30 minutes after I graduated high school with $500 in my pocket and no job. I went to work on the oil rigs. I worked hard. Everyone in USA and Canada could have done the same regardless if they were white, black or any nationality. Being poor at birth did not give me any privilege. You could have done the exact same work I did. Oilfield work is dirty and hard and most people avoid dirty and difficult jobs but the ones that do are usually successful. I worked harder than most. Started my own business and hired hundreds of workers who all received 401 K retirement. Yes 30% of Americans do not have 401 K but 70% do and they have had a windfall the last 18 months. The opportunity for success in USA is much greater than any other country. Reality is a poor black man in USA has this opportunity if they work hard.[/QUOTE]Right on! I have a friend with a similar background. He started with nothing except his mind, his personal motivation, and a strong work ethic. He entered the construction when he was 18. He performed any job his boss would assign him and he slowly (at first) worked his way up the ladder of success. Today he owns his own construction company and has a 4 million dollar house on the intercostal in Miami. If you can't make it in America, you can't make it anywhere!
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3074472]Few surprises here:
[B]The best states to live in for 2026: No. 1 has a six-year winning streak[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/11/best-states-to-live-in-america-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[B]These are Americas 10 worst states to live in for 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/11/worst-states-to-live-in-america-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]Could the writers of these pieces be a wee bit biased?
Tiny: For domestic migration in recent years, what is net migration from red states to blue states or vice versa? I'd like a total for all states, not individual ones.
ChatGPT Pro, after crunching for about two minutes: Using 2024 presidential results to classify states as red or blue, recent domestic migration has been clearly from blue states to red states.
In 2023:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 2,006,271.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,375,854.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 630,417.
In 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 1,852,088.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,307,618.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 544,470.
Combined 2023 and 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 3,858,359.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 2,683,472.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 1,174,887.
So over those two years, red states gained about 1. 17 million residents net from blue states, or roughly 587,000 per year.
This is a true cross-group calculation using Census state-to-state migration data. Moves between two red states or between two blue states are excluded. Maine is classified as blue and Nebraska as red based on the statewide 2024 presidential vote.
The data show the direction of migration, but do not by themselves prove that politics caused it. Housing costs, jobs, retirement, climate, family ties and taxes may all contribute.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074301]Hey Tiny, that is quite a generous proposition considering that approximately 300 br of Scandallo's 500 br entry fee is consumable after 7 pm and 100% consumable before 7 pm, so in effect you are offering me 10 to 1 odds. Are you sure you want to place this bet? I am not interested in taking your money, so I will tell you right now that if we make this wager, I will not seek out a 2,000 br girl because I never do. The sweet spot for me at Scandallo is between 800 br and 1000 br for very attractive girls, not the so-called super stars and the most I have ever given a Scan girl was 1200 br for ST. To put it in context, I give my #1 Scandallo girl 900 br for our particular version of "modified ST" which (we don't watch the clock) effectively means 5 to 7 hours and 2 or 3 shags and we do not do sleepovers by mutual consent. KKK /555.
In any case, you are on if you want to make the wager. I just returned from SP about 10 days ago and I have already booked my next SP trip in October. It would be outstanding to meet you in SP then if possible. But I am also seriously thinking about doing the "BIG TRIP": MIA to BKK (and Pattaya) / BKK to CGK / CGK to PNH to BKK / BKK to GRU / and finally GRU to MIA. And my plan is to arrive in BKK immediately after Songkran and get to SP before May 22 in order to celebrate Valeria's 30th birthday. So, either way we should be able to hook up, Buddha willing of course.
A. H.[/QUOTE]If we're in the same city at some point you're on! Your proposition to SubCmdr was generous, probably because you wanted to meet the legend, who also knows Pattaya better than just about anyone here. Likewise I have ulterior motives as you're the undisputed Scandallo expert.
Betting markets indicate the probability of Democrats controlling the House come 2027 is about 80%. I think it's higher.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074544]If we're in the same city at some point you're on! Your proposition to SubCmdr was generous, probably because you wanted to meet the legend, who also knows Pattaya better than just about anyone here. Likewise I have ulterior motives as you're the undisputed Scandallo expert. [/QUOTE]Tiny, I am no legend. In fact, I hardly post Scan reports anymore because I go there so seldom nowadays since I started doing the monogamous thing with the Missus every night. KKK. That's right, monogamy! But don't cry for me, Tiny, I still play around in the afternoons at various clinicas and I met some great clinca girls on my last visit. Anyway, my main contribution to the SP forum is found in my early reports on Scan & Bomboa just after they re-opend in October 2021. Those were good times!
Today the best current Scan reports are coming from a few guys whom I have had the pleasure of hooking up in Scan on my last couple of trips. You will know who they are if you read that thread. As to SubCmdr, I assure you that seeking info from him was never my intention. I just thought it might be fun to hook up for a drink or two and to exchange some war stories. I am primarily a solo act.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Are you black? Do you really know any black people? Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade? These are important questions if you have the answers I would be happy to hear them. Have you ever heard of white privilege?[/QUOTE]Using race as an excuse for personal failure is a ruse and it hurts more young American blacks than just about anything else in the world. Success does not come easy. Nobody hands you your success on a platter. You have to work for it and you have to ignore all the assholes and all the peer pressure that tells you different. Are you an Afro American?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Are you black? Do you really know any black people? Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade? These are important questions if you have the answers I would be happy to hear them. Have you ever heard of white privilege?[/QUOTE]I am not black but I know several black guys working in the oil fields in Canada, Wyoming and North Dakota making over $100,000 a year. They own their own houses and belong to the County Club. Pretty sure they weren't slaves and their parents and grandparents weren't slaves. Not sure of the difference between them and you but they work hard and are making good money. Being black doesn't seem to bother them.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3074543]Could the writers of these pieces be a wee bit biased?
Tiny: For domestic migration in recent years, what is net migration from red states to blue states or vice versa? I'd like a total for all states, not individual ones.
ChatGPT Pro, after crunching for about two minutes: Using 2024 presidential results to classify states as red or blue, recent domestic migration has been clearly from blue states to red states.
In 2023:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 2,006,271.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,375,854.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 630,417.
In 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 1,852,088.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 1,307,618.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 544,470.
Combined 2023 and 2024:
Blue-state residents moving to red states: 3,858,359.
Red-state residents moving to blue states: 2,683,472.
Net migration from blue states to red states: 1,174,887.
So over those two years, red states gained about 1. 17 million residents net from blue states, or roughly 587,000 per year.
This is a true cross-group calculation using Census state-to-state migration data. Moves between two red states or between two blue states are excluded. Maine is classified as blue and Nebraska as red based on the statewide 2024 presidential vote.
The data show the direction of migration, but do not by themselves prove that politics caused it. Housing costs, jobs, retirement, climate, family ties and taxes may all contribute.
Again, few surprises here:
[/QUOTE][B]The 10 best state economies in America in 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/13/best-state-economies-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]While the odds of a U.S recession have fallen sharply in the last year, companies are still looking to set up shop in states with solid economies.
With states loudly touting their own economic strength, Economy is one of the most important categories in CNBCs annual competitiveness study, Americas Top States for Business.
Several states stand out for their economic strength this year, based on factors including job growth, strong housing markets and healthy budgets with relatively lows levels of public debt.
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To score each states economy, we consider a variety of factors including economic growth, job growth and the number of major companies headquartered in the state. We also measure each states fiscal health including its budget situation, its long-term obligations and its debt ratings, as well as the health of the residential real estate market. We also consider the impact of tariffs, the potential impact of federal budget cuts, foreign direct investment, and small business survival rates.
While some states are flashing economic warning signs, these ten states have what it takes to power through whatever the U.S. economy throws their way. [/QUOTE]I would have posted the list from 10th to 1st as I did with the previous Best and Worst states in which to live for the sake of simplicity. But for whatever reason that didn't make the transmission from submission to posting here. So I didn't bother to do it this time.
Oh, BTW, we're all still waiting for you, our resident link / substantiation-free data monitor, to issue all those well-earned Pinocchios to Canada for his repeated utter BS claims about the current USA unemployment rates, wage growth, inflation rates, the USA stock market gains over the past 18 months vs the previous 18 months, etc, etc, etc.
Is that coming "in about two weeks"?
Here we have two members of the Rich Racist Republican Party making their statements on race.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074566]I am not black but I know several black guys working in the oil fields in Canada, Wyoming and North Dakota making over $100,000 a year. They own their own houses and belong to the County Club. Pretty sure they weren't slaves and their parents and grandparents weren't slaves. Not sure of the difference between them and you but they work hard and are making good money. Being black doesn't seem to bother them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074560]Using race as an excuse for personal failure is a ruse and it hurts more young American blacks than just about anything else in the world. Success does not come easy. Nobody hands you your success on a platter. You have to work for it and you have to ignore all the assholes and all the peer pressure that tells you different. Are you an Afro American?[/QUOTE]Either of you two white hoodie wearing (compound profanity redacted) want to explain these numbers?
[QUOTE]In 2024, the overall U.S. poverty rate was 10.6%, affecting approximately 35.9 million people, with rates varying significantly across racial and ethnic groups.
American Indian and Alaska Native populations experienced the highest poverty rate at 19.3%, followed closely by Black individuals at 18.4%. Hispanic poverty rates were reported at 16.6% in 2023 and roughly 18% in 2024 data depending on specific census metrics, while White (non-Hispanic) poverty rates remained the lowest among major groups at approximately 7.7% to 11.5%. Asian populations had the lowest recorded poverty rate at 7.5% to 10.1% in recent years.
American Indian/Alaska Native: ~19.3% (2024)
Black: ~18.4% (2024)
Hispanic: ~16.6% - 18% (2023-2024)
White (non-Hispanic): ~7.7% - 11.5% (2023-2024)
Asian: ~7.5% - 10.1% (2023-2024)
The racial gap in poverty has shown signs of expanding in recent years, with Black poverty rates rising from a record low of 17.1% in 2022 to 18.4% in 2024, which is 2.4 times the rate for non-Hispanic White Americans. [/QUOTE]No didn't think so.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Are you black? Do you really know any black people? Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade? These are important questions if you have the answers I would be happy to hear them. Have you ever heard of white privilege?[/QUOTE]Asking a white man who is a member of the Republican party about white privilege like asking a fish if they ever hear of water. They don't realize that they are swimming in it.
[B]Elvis2008[/B] mentions race and no one in the Rich Racist Republican party has anything to say about it. That means by definition you support racism in your party. It that is not true, you are free to share with me your efforts to combat racism within the Republican Party.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3072647]I don't buy that the majority of Republicans are racists, where I've been anyway. I asked ChatGPT about that, and the only hard numbers it came up with were from this Pew survey. 54% of Republicans queried said Blacks and Hispanics face more discrimination than whites.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/05/20/how-much-discrimination-do-americans-say-groups-face-in-the-u-s/[/URL]
[b]Now, unfortunately in his quest to make the GOP a big tent party, Trump has taken in some groups he shouldn't have[/b]. The Trump administration is taking anti-DEI too far. Hegseth is way out in left field. Trump never should have appointed him Secretary of War, and the Senate never should have confirmed him. If I had three job candidates who were well qualifed, one white, one black, and one Hispanic, I'd pick the one with the biggest tits. Failing that, if I chose the black or the Hispanic, for purposes of diversity or because I figured she had to work harder to get to where she is, government has no (expletive deleted) business telling me I can't hire her.[/QUOTE]I am not a Democrat nor a Republican!
Nor do I have a problem being black. The problem is that those who were born of privilege (and don't even know it because life was so easy for them) are not used to a [B]Strong Black Man[/B] speaking his mind to them and telling them the way I see things. Until they explain the poverty numbers in the Dis United States of America as I have laid out in a previous post, they can talk to my hand.
How come Russia still be in one piece? Why they economy not collapse yet? With all the success Ukraine's had in drone striking them to oblivion, how come Russia still be standing?
Things that make you go hmmmm.
When you read Russia news, they say everything is awesome. When you watch Ukraine news, they say it's going great. Who's telling the truth here? Why can't we believe anything anymore since everything is just AI these days?
How is it that mitch McConnell is alive but linsey graham is dead? Did AI report the wrong news?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Are you black? [/QUOTE]No he isn't.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Do you really know any black people?[/QUOTE]No he doesn't.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535]Did Canada ever engage in the slave trade?[/QUOTE]Most likely back in his family tree.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074535] Have you ever heard of white privilege?[/QUOTE]Might as well ask a fish if he ever heard of water.
[QUOTE]Being poor at birth did not give me any privilege.[/QUOTE]Look in the mirror. See your privilege.
The Dis United States of America is a country that uses race as a distraction from the deep wealth and income inequalities in the greater society. My first boss said: [I]Nigger if you don't like the work conditions around here find a mother fucking job[/I]. That is the Dis United States I went to work in.
So, two middle fingers up to people are trying to tell me there is no racism in the Dis United States of America and that the history of slavery does not affect Black Americans to this day economically.
[B]From the Hoover Institution (not exactly a liberal organization):[/B]
[U]The Long Shadows Of Slavery And Jim Crow: Uncovering The Economic Impact On Black Americans[/U]
Click and read the article (take you about 4 minutes is the estimate). Educate yourselves. I would name names but you know who you are.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL]
WSJ News Alert: Inflation Slowed to 3.5% in June, as Americans Got a Break From Gas Prices.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074644]WSJ News Alert: Inflation Slowed to 3.5% in June, as Americans Got a Break From Gas Prices.[/QUOTE]Someone who thinks this is good news for citizens of the Dis United States of America is not sane. They have lost their (compound profanity redacted) mind.
[QUOTE]At an annual inflation rate of 3.5%, your money will lose half of its purchasing power in approximately 20.5 years.
This estimate uses the Rule of 72, a standard mental math shortcut for compound interest and inflation:
Years to halve value=
Inflation Rate: 3.5%
72/3.5=20.57 years
While the Rule of 72 provides a quick approximation, precise calculations show that at exactly 3.5% inflation, purchasing power drops by 50% after roughly 19.8 years. For context, at a lower 2% rate, it would take 35 years to lose half your purchasing power, whereas at a higher 5% rate, it would take only 14 years.[/QUOTE][B]Rich Racist Republican please![/B]
As soon as some a-hole resorts to race baiting and intimidation in a futile attempt to win the argument, I know 2 things: 1) that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence and 2) that person does not have any real data to back up his argument.
Obviously, you are back on my ignore list. Have fun living in Pattaya on the cheap. You wouldn't be able to enjoy your present lifestyle if you were not a black American.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074662]As soon as some a-hole resorts to race baiting and intimidation in a futile attempt to win the argument, I know 2 things: 1) that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence and 2) that person does not have any real data to back up his argument.
Obviously, you are back on my ignore list. Have fun living in Pattaya on the cheap. You wouldn't be able to enjoy your present lifestyle if you were not a black American.[/QUOTE]So when presented with an academic paper that backs up my premise the response from the Rich Racist Republicans is to revert to [B]Ad hominem[/B] attacks. Par for the course. When they lose the objective intellectual argument that is the play.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074635]The Dis United States of America is a country that uses race as a distraction from the deep wealth and income inequalities in the greater society. My first boss said: [I]Nigger if you don't like the work conditions around here find a mother fucking job[/I]. That is the Dis United States I went to work in.
So, two middle fingers up to people are trying to tell me there is no racism in the Dis United States of America and that the history of slavery does not affect Black Americans to this day economically.
[B]From the Hoover Institution (not exactly a liberal organization):[/B]
[U]The Long Shadows Of Slavery And Jim Crow: Uncovering The Economic Impact On Black Americans[/U]
Click and read the article (take you about 4 minutes is the estimate). Educate yourselves. I would name names but you know who you are.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074602]Here we have two members of the Rich Racist Republican Party making their statements on race.
Either of you two white hoodie wearing (compound profanity redacted) want to explain these numbers?
No didn't think so.
Asking a white man who is a member of the Republican party about white privilege like asking a fish if they ever hear of water. They don't realize that they are swimming in it.[/QUOTE]Some people work hard at difficult jobs and are successful and have a great life.
Some people don't work hard at less difficult jobs and they are not successful and have a miserable life.
Maybe it isn't privileged and maybe it is just discipline and hard work.
Which one are you?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074560]Using race as an excuse for personal failure is a ruse and it hurts more young American blacks than just about anything else in the world. Success does not come easy. Nobody hands you your success on a platter. You have to work for it and you have to ignore all the assholes and all the peer pressure that tells you different. Are you an Afro American?[/QUOTE]No, I am a citizen of the Dis United States of America.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/jim-crow-and-black-economic-progress-after-slavery[/URL]
[QUOTE]This paper studies the long-run effects of slavery and Jim Crow on Black Americans economic outcomes. We trace each Black familys linked census and administrative records between 1850 and 2000 to measure how long they were enslaved and where they lived during Jim Crow. [u]We show that Black families who were enslaved until the Civil War have considerably lower education, income, and wealth today than Black families who were free before the Civil War.[/b] The disparities between the two groups have persisted because most families enslaved until the Civil War lived in states with strict Jim Crow regimes after slavery. In a regression discontinuity design based on ancestors enslavement location, we show that states Jim Crow regimes sharply reduced Black families economic progress in the long run, largely by limiting their access to education. Using quasi-experimental variation, we show that gaining school access closed 80 percent of the gap in human capital caused by exposure to strict Jim Crow regimes.[/QUOTE]Below is the response from a individual who has lost the intellectual argument after I presented evidence that his statements were off base and had no basis in facts.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074662]As soon as some a-hole resorts to race baiting and intimidation in a futile attempt to win the argument, I know 2 things: 1) that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence and 2) that person does not have any real data to back up his argument.[/QUOTE]An academic study on records from 1850 to 2000 do not qualify as a [I]basis in facts[/I]? You better look in the mirror if you want to see a [I]that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence[/I]. Because you have presented nothing to back up your opinions or count the facts that I have presented about racism in the Dis United States of America.
You don't get to ignore the facts just because you don't like them. Take your so called "gentleman's bet" and pound sand with it. I'm not debating the issue with you. Racism exists in the Dis United Stated of America. The paper proves it. I'm posted up Thailand. My lifestyle is the result of work the was performed in the face of Racism in the Dis United States of America. Don't you ever forget it or demean it. Because you attitude proves to me that the label I place on members of the Republican Party is accurate. Continue to praise the Dis United States of America and be a pussy colonizer in Brazil and all your other favorite places because you cannot get any pussy in the Dis United States of America. Personally the longer you leave me on you ignore list the less I have to read your crazy rantings about inflation at 3.5% being good.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074732]Some people work hard at difficult jobs and are successful and have a great life.[/QUOTE]True.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074732]Some people don't work hard at less difficult jobs and they are not successful and have a miserable life.[/QUOTE]True.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074732]SMaybe it isn't privileged and maybe it is just discipline and hard work.[/QUOTE]False.
Some people ignore facts when they are presented. I have given you a link to answer all of your questions about the effects of slavery and institutional racism in the Dis United States of America. The full paper is full of statistical facts.
Other people review the facts at hand and can comment or dispute them by presenting other facts.
Some people simply post their opinions and [B]male bovine excrement[/B].
[QUOTE=Canada;3074732]Which one are you?[/QUOTE]The thread is not about me. It is about [B]American Politics[/B]. The Republican Party is for the Rich and Racist.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074732]Some people work hard at difficult jobs and are successful and have a great life.
Some people don't work hard at less difficult jobs and they are not successful and have a miserable life.
Maybe it isn't privileged and maybe it is just discipline and hard work.
Which one are you?[/QUOTE]We have a guy who inherited his daddy's business and went bankrupt 6 times? How does one accomplish that? I wish my daddy had 400 million bucks to give me.
The window of opportunity for Black Americans to have their votes truly count and be represented for the taxes they pay was remarkably brief and narrow thanks to the Repub MAGAs in the Supreme Court and every Repub, Bothsider / Neithersider and anyone else who could have but didn't vote straight Dem up and down every ballot since at least the 1990's:
[B]Supreme Court ruling on race-based redistricting prompts quick action in some states.
April 30, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/voting-rights-redistricting-court-states-race-maps-b90a986d0db5dc49241ab939ff29a179[/URL]
[QUOTE]Before the words were even written on a Supreme Court decision striking down a majority Black congressional district in Louisiana, some states already were taking steps to respond to it.
Wednesdays ruling significantly limits the use of race when drawing voting districts, weakening a Civil Rights-era law that has boosted minority representation in Congress.
The decision came in the midst of a special legislative session in Florida that Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis had called for congressional redistricting on the assumption the Supreme Court would rule as it did. Mississippis Republican governor also already had announced a special legislative session, contingent on the courts ruling.[/QUOTE]Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, etc, all the usual suspects ran to rig districts to suppress the impact of votes by Black Americans faster than you can say "make sure their votes don't count. ".
Oh well.
We tried.
Senate Majorites matter too, folks. They are the ones who confirm Supreme Court nominees. And if a Black American is president when the Repubs have a majority in the Senate you can kiss the chances of him appointing a Supreme Court Justice when the clear and obvious opportunity arises goodbye.
And we're not talking about ye olde days of powdered wigs and horse and buggies. I am 100% certain everyone reading this is old enough to remember when that happened and to have made full intellectual note and understanding of it. Unless some of you MAGA numbskulls are less than 10 years old.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074753]No, I am a citizen of the Dis United States of America.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/jim-crow-and-black-economic-progress-after-slavery[/URL]
Below is the response from a individual who has lost the intellectual argument after I presented evidence that his statements were off base and had no basis in facts.
An academic study on records from 1850 to 2000 do not qualify as a [I]basis in facts[/I]? You better look in the mirror if you want to see a [I]that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence[/I]. Because you have presented nothing to back up your opinions or count the facts that I have presented about racism in the Dis United States of America.
You don't get to ignore the facts just because you don't like them. Take your so called "gentleman's bet" and pound sand with it. I'm not debating the issue with you. Racism exists in the Dis United Stated of America. The paper proves it. I'm posted up Thailand. My lifestyle is the result of work the was performed in the face of Racism in the Dis United States of America..[/QUOTE]Subcmmdr, Hope your doing well and slayin that Thailand pussy.
Just read a few posts so I don't know exactly what you and Heyst are arguing about, but its not always easy for people to come to terms with white privilege to the point a lot of people just can't accept it fully. Just my two cents. Heyst has put a lot of good info in a lot of forums though. He's certainly not a total piece of shit like Spidy who just trolls all day.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3074473]Yes, it is important to keep things simple as I am just a poor black man trying to make it. I do not have the financial resources and intellectual capacity that men of privilege have such as yourself and your man Elvis2008.
[U]#2[/U]
I will probably lose this one because they are changing how the PCE is calculated starting in September of 2026. So the Dis United States of America have decided to game the numbers in order to give the FED room to not raise rates and letting the economy run hot or even lowering them. The bond market always sees through the [B]male bovine excrement[/B] manipulation.
[B]The long-term interest rates for U.S. Treasury Bonds (T-Bonds) are currently represented by yields of 5.08% for the 20-year bond and 5.07% for the 30-year bond as of July 13, 2026.[/B]
Ask your man Elvis2008 what happens to bond prices when interest rates go up.
Damn straight. Buy drinks for your own bitches. I'm not buying any for mine because I don't have any. You will be on vacation. Just another farang in Thailand on a wheels up clock. You need bitches. That is why you are coming.[/QUOTE]LOL this some funny shit lololol.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074644]WSJ News Alert: Inflation Slowed to 3.5% in June, as Americans Got a Break From Gas Prices.[/QUOTE]But with Trump making war again, rather than peace and not only following Netanyahou on this time, petrol rate is increasing again. Americans pay Trump inflation, tax, golf, megalomania like White House. At least, I pay only inflation and in France, we have E85 from agriculture. I think some here really don t represent majority of Americans Trump make poorer. If every Americans votes were counted, I doubt Trump would have majority on mid terms.
This is truly the biggest problem that faces the Dis United States of America today and affects everyone inside and outside of the country.
[QUOTE]But the episode reflects a grim reality of US politics: both that many of our elected leaders are far past the age of their greatest competence and stamina, and also that they are so completely inured from the consequences of public opinion that they face no risks for staying in jobs that they're no longer capable of doing. In other words: many American leaders are so old that it is plausible that they could drop dead at any moment, and so unaccountable that its not clear anyone would bother to tell us if they did.[/QUOTE]Do we all know who I am talking about?
[B]This also applies to the leader of the Article 2 Branch of Government.[/B]
[I]A [b]gerontocracy [/b]is a form of government or political system ruled by leaders who are significantly older than the majority of the population. In such systems, power often accumulates with age due to factors like wealth, experience, and social capital, resulting in a ruling class composed primarily of elders.[/I]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074769]We have a guy who inherited his daddy's business and went bankrupt 6 times? How does one accomplish that? I wish my daddy had 400 million bucks to give me.[/QUOTE]And Trump made more than 1 billion since he was re elected, to lie, daily bullshit and almost daily play golf, but I think his best job is to fuck so deep in the ass Americans.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3074778]The window of opportunity for Black Americans to have their votes truly count and be represented for the taxes they pay was remarkably brief and narrow thanks to the Repub MAGAs in the Supreme Court and every Repub, Bothsider / Neithersider and anyone else who could have but didn't vote straight Dem up and down every ballot since at least the 1990's:
[B]Supreme Court ruling on race-based redistricting prompts quick action in some states.
April 30, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/voting-rights-redistricting-court-states-race-maps-b90a986d0db5dc49241ab939ff29a179[/URL]
Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, etc, all the usual suspects ran to rig districts to suppress the impact of votes by Black Americans faster than you can say "make sure their votes don't count. ".
Oh well.
We tried.
Senate Majorites matter too, folks. They are the ones who confirm Supreme Court nominees. And if a Black American is president when the Repubs have a majority in the Senate you can kiss the chances of him appointing a Supreme Court Justice when the clear and obvious opportunity arises goodbye.
And we're not talking about ye olde days of powdered wigs and horse and buggies. I am 100% certain everyone reading this is old enough to remember when that happened and to have made full intellectual note and understanding of it. Unless some of you MAGA numbskulls are less than 10 years old.[/QUOTE]Proof positive that that Blacks in the United States are still not treated as equals in the eyes of the Repubs and by a Republican majority SCOTUS, that still in many ways, have legally, economically and socially reduced Black (and Brown) Americans, down to the "slaves" of yesteryear, as human and equality rights are denied.
And lets not get it twisted, [U]as Black lives from those shameful yesteryear days of American Slavery, have improved tremendously.[/U] But it always seems, that when Black, Brown and minority advancements are made legally, economically and socially, to be more or less on par with Whites, somehow Republicans seem to think (as they've done for decades), it's their job to "take-back" those advancements or simply put, [I][b]"...Black people must be put back in their place"[/b][/I].
Some pundit once said, something to the effect, that, [I]"...as longs Republicans have majority of wealth and hold a majority in the courts, they care very little else, to what happens in the United States"[/I].
Hmm. Whether left or right, democrat or republican, I think we can all agree that the current lineup of politicians in these disunited States of America is perhaps too old. Why is everybody 80 and above? Most people's grandparents retire by 66 anyway, assuming anyone can even retire these days with the high cost of everything.
The odds of another election ever happening again are pretty low, but if it does, I think the next president of these disunited states should be at least someone under 55. I mean come on.
And I'm a super old guy myself, but I think the business of running a nation should be done by people that still have something to live for, not by a bunch of old people hoarding wealth.
God, I wish I was in Thailand now.
The EU installed 27 GWh of new battery storage last year, the 12th consecutive record year, with it's EU battery fleet has growing 10 fold since 2021, to over 77 GWh. According to a new report from Euro News, German battery storage capacity has exploded from 21.8 GWh to 30 GWh in just over a year. That's a 37% increase since June 2025.
So despite the missteps and miscues by the German Gov't in handling it's energy crisis with insanely bad negotiated gas contracts with the United States, due to the recent wars started by petrostates Russia and the United States, it seems the solar mad Germans and many EU households are now [I][b]once again giving gas and fossil fuels the proverbial "middle finger",[/b][/I] this time with battery storage. [URL]https://www.euronews.com/2026/07/08/solar-mad-germans-turn-to-battery-storage-to-shield-themselves-against-fossil-fuel-price-s[/URL]
Looks [NOPARSE]like Germans can adapt and are NOT letting a good crisis go to waste! Meanwhile back in Trumpland, it is adapting to more chaos, corruption, administrative failure and ineptitude, as the Iran war rages on...[/NOPARSE]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074769]We have a guy who inherited his daddy's business and went bankrupt 6 times? How does one accomplish that? I wish my daddy had 400 million bucks to give me.[/QUOTE]Hard work and being smart.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3074800]But with Trump making war again, rather than peace and not only following Netanyahou on this time, petrol rate is increasing again. Americans pay Trump inflation, tax, golf, megalomania like White House. At least, I pay only inflation and in France, we have E85 from agriculture. I think some here really don t represent majority of Americans Trump make poorer. If every Americans votes were counted, I doubt Trump would have majority on mid terms.[/QUOTE]You need to stay in France. You can't afford to live in USA. There is a reason why so many illegals are in USA. It is the greatest country to live in.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074892]Hard work and being smart.[/QUOTE]Does that include the 6 bankruptcies? How is that even possible? It's rare to find someone who has one let alone 6. What's smart about that?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3074905]Does that include the 6 bankruptcies? How is that even possible? It's rare to find someone who has one let alone 6. What's smart about that?[/QUOTE]Business is tough. Especially the real estate business. One day your property is worth millions then a recession it is not worth the debt you owe. Most people that go bankrupt stay bankrupt. It takes a real business person to rebound to billions. Very few are successful but Trump was smart enough to succeed. He may not be the nicest guy in the world but he is a great negotiator and businessman. Even if you don't like him.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3074800]But with Trump making war again, <yada yada yada> I think some here really don t represent majority of Americans Trump make poorer. If every Americans votes were counted, I doubt Trump would have majority on mid terms.[/QUOTE]Sirioja, FYI in the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump received more votes nationwide than Kamala Harris. Trump also won with 312 Electoral College votes vs Harris's 226 Electoral College votes.
The US 2026 midterm elections are a different animal. Trump is not running in 2026 and that fact will affect Republican turnout. Historically, the out of power party usually wins or picks up seats in the Senate and House. The 2028 national presidential election is another story and Trump is not running in 2028 despite the fear and loathing of far left loons.
So, before you start criticizing our form of representational government which has been around for 250 years, far longer than France's, you should at least attempt to understand the reason why the electoral college exists in the 1st place. Hint: have you ever heard of the concept of the "tyranny of the majority"?
And despite your claims otherwise, France has a lot of existential problems on its hands. I would never consider moving to France now. I went there once in the 80's. I had a good time, but tragically, that France no longer exists.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074893]You need to stay in France. You can't afford to live in USA. There is a reason why so many illegals are in USA. It is the greatest country to live in.[/QUOTE]We all here still look forward learning about your 8 peaces by Trump? Ukraine? Ormuz? When no problem about Ormuz on January, but let us know. Don t You know many illegals in France, country of freedom and free healthcare, where You are not killed by criminal ICE. Also many Americans coming to France for retirement, when I doubt many French go to spend retirement in USA with so bad expensive healthcare. Don't worry, I don t even plan to visit USA as long Trump, when I would like to visit NYC, I regret I didn't before 2001, now I will wait and go when Trump death.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3074965]We all here still look forward learning about your 8 peaces by Trump? Ukraine? Ormuz? When no problem about Ormuz on January, but let us know. Don t You know many illegals in France, country of freedom and free healthcare, where You are not killed by criminal ICE. Also many Americans coming to France for retirement, when I doubt many French go to spend retirement in USA with so bad expensive healthcare. Don't worry, I don t even plan to visit USA as long Trump, when I would like to visit NYC, I regret I didn't before 2001, now I will wait and go when Trump death.[/QUOTE]Great that we won't see you in USA for the next 10-20 years. Good news for America.
[QUOTE=Canada;3074907]Business is tough. Especially the real estate business. One day your property is worth millions then a recession it is not worth the debt you owe. Most people that go bankrupt stay bankrupt. It takes a real business person to rebound to billions. Very few are successful but Trump was smart enough to succeed. He may not be the nicest guy in the world but he is a great negotiator and businessman. Even if you don't like him.[/QUOTE]Oh really? Name someone who had their daddy's business handed to them to claim bankruptcy 6 times? LOL.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3075063]Oh really? Name someone who had their daddy's business handed to them to claim bankruptcy 6 times? LOL.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Thanks for confirming my post. I don't know any business owner that was good enough and smart enough to recover 6 times. Thanks again!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074908]Sirioja, FYI in the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump received more votes nationwide than Kamala Harris. Trump also won with 312 Electoral College votes vs Harris's 226 Electoral College votes.
The US 2026 midterm elections are a different animal. Trump is not running in 2026 and that fact will affect Republican turnout. Historically, the out of power party usually wins or picks up seats in the Senate and House. The 2028 national presidential election is another story and Trump is not running in 2028 despite the fear and loathing of far left loons.
So, before you start criticizing our form of representational government which has been around for 250 years, far longer than France's, you should at least attempt to understand the reason why the electoral college exists in the 1st place. Hint: have you ever heard of the concept of the "tyranny of the majority"?
And despite your claims otherwise, France has a lot of existential problems on its hands. I would never consider moving to France now. I went there once in the 80's. I had a good time, but tragically, that France no longer exists.[/QUOTE]The only people who matter that clearly do not or refuse to understand how that Electoral College for the presidential elections and the popular vote for Congressional elections thingy works in America is Donald J. Trump and the razor-thin Repub majorities in Congress.
Please forward this post in unredacted email form to them immediately!
"Make sure I win!" - Donald J. Trump to China's Xi in 2020. However, under censorship pressure from the White House, the publisher of the book dropped the verbal quote cited by Trump's National Security Advisor and changed it to "pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win."
Ah. That's much better.
[B]John Bolton: Trump sought Xi's help to win re-election
18 June 2020[/B]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53086042[/URL]
[QUOTE]"Trump, stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election in 2020, alluding to China's economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win," Mr Bolton wrote.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canada;3075073]Exactly. Thanks for confirming my post. I don't know any business owner that was good enough and smart enough to recover 6 times. Thanks again![/QUOTE]Is that why Trump filed a 10 billion dollar junk lawsuit against the government so he settle with himself. Not going to fly especially the provision to relive himself and crime family from pending 100 million dollars in unpaid taxes.
He going to have to pay. You act like it's your money! LOL.
[QUOTE=Canada;3075051]Great that we won't see you in USA for the next 10-20 years. Good news for America.[/QUOTE]But you never listed 8 peaces made by Trump, when no peace, but war again for him in Iran and lies and inflation for Americans. And do You see NY and Chicago under so big pollution, his ignorance is making. I won't need to wait for so long to spend again money in USA. Do you think your old senile crazy will live till 100 , when so fat. I doubt and wish for our world, mid terms will kick him off, when our world don't need and deserve such stupid.
Man, those "Worst since a previous Repub economic disaster!" citations are coming fast and furious lately!
Oh well.
We tried.
[B]Import prices post surprise gain as costs of goods from China hit highest since 2008.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/17/import-prices-post-surprise-gain-as-costs-of-goods-from-china-hit-highest-since-2008.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Import prices were up 0.3% for the month, as a drop in energy was more than offset by increases elsewhere.
On an annual basis, prices jumped 7.1%, the biggest move higher since August 2022.
China played a role, with import prices rising 0.9%, the biggest monthly move since January 2008, a possible reflection of tariff impacts.[/QUOTE]Wait until those Repub Trump Tariffs Taxes on the American Consumer are combined with the recent increase in the average price of a gallon of regular gas in America starting this month, which already has returned to a higher price today under Repub Trump than yesterday, those prices are higher than last week, those prices are higher than last year and in fact now those prices are again higher under Repub Trump than it was under Dem Biden for all but about 4-5 months in 2022.
Oh, and that price in 2022 was due to the deal Repub Trump made with OPEC in 2020 to increase the price of oil and gas during the historically low demand period of Repub Trump's Pandemic.
As everyone knows.
I'm just looking forward to WW3, what's it going to take at this point? Everything points towards Armageddon and yet here we are still blue balling it waiting for the apocalypse. Sheesh.
So why is CATL the king of lithium batteries, making sodium batter? This past June, the world's biggest battery company walked on stage in Munich and revealed a grid storage system with [B]zero lithium inside[/B], suddenly pouring billions into sodium, a chemistry?
Well, CATL's Tener Sodium grid BESS, runs entirely on sodium batteries [I](no supply-chain issues, no lithium, no cobal, no nickel, no fossil fuels for the naysayers to nit pick about mining practices they themselves abuse at every turn)[/I] just an abundance of sodium (found anywhere) and groundbreaking clean electrotech in the form of a BESS.
Groundbreaking Tener Sodium-ion Battery Specs:
- the first Sodium BESS proven out in the real-world (not sure what CATL means by that, as it is not the 1st sodium BESS to be established)
- 30+ MWh per unit
- 10,000+ cycles (Note: Rick Roy says 15,000 charge cycles? at around 25 to 30 years of service-life)
- hold greater than 90% capacity in -20 C (Note: Rick Roy says hold 92% of its capacity at -20 c and then he states at 15:00, that it holds its state of charge at 90% om -40C weather??)
- largest battery constract to a single company in battery manufacturing history, with a 60 GWh for its sodium batteries
- Naxtra Sodium for EVs, Tener Sodium for BESS grid solutions.
[I][b]Meanwhile back in the good ol' Trumpland and MAGA World,[/b][/I] [NOPARSE]the debackle, clown show admin 2.0, incompetance, corruption, inept failure and utter disregard for American hard earn taxpayers dollars not be spent like drunken sailors, bribing energy companies billions not move forward building clean tech wind projects (due to the MAGA Fuhrer's own vanity dislike of wind farms), but fossil fuel plants instead, and top it all off yet another stupid Republican war (that they dumbfoundly can't seem to win)...rages [/NOPARSE]on!
2026 The Year of the Battery.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3075097]Is that why Trump filed a 10 billion dollar junk lawsuit against the government so he settle with himself. Not going to fly especially the provision to relive himself and crime family from pending 100 million dollars in unpaid taxes.
He going to have to pay. You act like it's your money! LOL.[/QUOTE]$100 million dollars to Trump is equivalent of $100 for you to pay. He can easily pay $100 million like you can easily pay $100. I am pretty sure Trump has paid hundreds of Millions more in taxes than you. The way you talk you think you are much more successful than Trump.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075143]But you never listed 8 peaces made by Trump, when no peace, but war again for him in Iran and lies and inflation for Americans. And do You see NY and Chicago under so big pollution, his ignorance is making. I won't need to wait for so long to spend again money in USA. Do you think your old senile crazy will live till 100 , when so fat. I doubt and wish for our world, mid terms will kick him off, when our world don't need and deserve such stupid.[/QUOTE]President Trump has ended 8 wars in just 8 months with the title the president of peace. His latest addition to his list of wars ended is the two-year conflict between Israel and Hamas.
The other seven were between Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia, and Serbia and Kosovo.
Please stay in France.
[QUOTE=Canada;3075198]President Trump has ended 8 wars in just 8 months with the title the president of peace. His latest addition to his list of wars ended is the two-year conflict between Israel and Hamas.
The other seven were between Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia, and Serbia and Kosovo.
Please stay in France.[/QUOTE]Trump failed for Ukraine, agress Greenland and Denmark, Spain, Germany, Cuba, Venezuela. If you think we made peace between Israel and Hamas or Iran, then you live in a deep hole, when he didn't make any peace since he was re elected and I look forward his death, when I know will be a great day for our world.
[QUOTE=Canada;3075198]President Trump has ended 8 wars in just 8 months with the title the president of peace. His latest addition to his list of wars ended is the two-year conflict between Israel and Hamas.
The other seven were between Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia, and Serbia and Kosovo.
Please stay in France.[/QUOTE]Yeah Trump put on his cape and boots and saved the planet. LMAO.
[QUOTE=Canada;3075198]President Trump has ended 8 wars in just 8 months with the title the president of peace. His latest addition to his list of wars ended is the two-year conflict between Israel and Hamas.
The other seven were between Israel and Iran, Pakistan and India, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Thailand and Cambodia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Egypt and Ethiopia, and Serbia and Kosovo.
Please stay in France.[/QUOTE]Ah. Found some links for you!
In the AI Overview:
[QUOTE][b]Did Donald Trump end 8 wars?[/b]
+3
[B]No[/b], Donald Trump's claim that he ended eight wars is heavily exaggerated and not supported by independent analyses or the involved countries. While his administration facilitated several ceasefires and peace agreements, fact-checkers and foreign policy experts point out that his list includes border disputes, non-existent active wars, and agreements that quickly collapsed.The 8 Conflicts CitedTrump's list of eight conflicts that he claims to have resolved includes:
[B]Israel and Hamas:[/b] The U.S. helped broker a ceasefire, but a definitive end to the conflict remains elusive.
[B]Israel and Iran:[/b] Ceasefires were announced, but direct military strikes and regional tensions have continued.
[B]India and Pakistan:[/b] Both countries agreed to a ceasefire, but India explicitly denied that the U.S. or Trump mediated the truce.
[B]Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Rwanda:[/b] An agreement was signed, but fighting and regional skirmishes have persisted.
[B]Cambodia and Thailand:[/b] A ceasefire was brokered, but violence and border clashes broke out again months later.
[B]Armenia and Azerbaijan:[/b] Peace agreements were signed, but the long-standing geopolitical region remains volatile.
[B]Egypt and Ethiopia:[/b] This was a diplomatic dispute over a major hydropower dam (the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam) rather than an active war.
[B]Serbia and Kosovo:[/b] This involved an agreement on economic normalization, but there was no active fighting to end, and deep political tensions remain unresolved.
Why the Claims are Disputed. Independent fact-checkers identify three main reasons why the "eight wars ended" narrative is misleading:Redefining "War": Several of the situations listed were regional tensions, border skirmishes, or diplomatic impasses rather than active, full-scale wars.Fragile Truces: Some of the ceasefires Trump took credit for organizing fell through, with violence resuming shortly after the photo-ops.Disputed Mediation: In several cases (most notably India and Pakistan), the nations involved rejected or downplayed Trump's claims of playing a significant role in brokering their peace.For more in-depth fact-checking on these claims, you can read full reports from BBC, Forbes, The Times, and AP News.How many wars has President Trump ended?Oct 15, 2568 BE How many wars has President Trump really ended? ... President Trump has claimed that he has "ended 8 wars in just 8 months" in a social media post with the titl...BBCDid Trump really end eight conflicts in 10 months? WION fact-checks the US presidents big war claims Written by Prajvi MathurFeb 25, 2569 BE Did Trump really end eight conflicts in 10 months? WION fact-checks the US president's big war claims Written by Prajvi Mathur * Alfonso Avina. What 8 wars? Sus...FacebookWhat ten wars did Trump end? His claims fact-checked - The TimesApr 16, 2569 BE After brokering an agreement to end the fighting in Gaza, he claimed to have resolved eight wars: Armenia and Azerbaijan; the Democratic Republic of the Congo a...The TimesFACT FOCUS: Trump says he's ended eight wars. His numbers are off - AP NewsDec 29, 2568 BE Trump says he's ended eight wars. His numbers are off | AP News. ... Your guide to the biggest stories in politics, policy and U.S. elections. ... Get special a...AP NewsDid Donald Trump end 8 wars? Figure mentioned in SOTU address inflatedFeb 24, 2569 BE Those include: * Armenia and Azerbaijan - The two former Soviet republics and Trump signed a peace agreement at the White House on Aug. 8, ending a decades-long...YahooWhat 8 wars did Trump refer to? Fact checking his SOTU addressFeb 24, 2569 BE President Donald Trump said he solved eight wars during his State of the Union address on Feb. 24. "We're proudly restoring safety for Americans at home, and we...USA Today[/QUOTE]Now, I looked for a link for the one war Trump appears to be most proud of ending because he has mentioned it multiple times; The War between "Aberbijian" and Albania. But I have yet to find any information on how that one has been going since he ended it.
Interesting that Trump never mentions the War in Afghanistan when he lists the wars that America was engaged in that lasted longer, so far, than his latest quagmire Repub War of Choice in Iran based on his lies. You know, "The Vietnam War lasted 19 years!" and so on? Which is odd since Repub GW Bush's quagmire War of Choice in Afghanistan based on his lies was the longest war America was engaged in.
Weird, huh? Why doesn't Trump mention that one in his list of long American wars?
Oh, I know why! It's because Trump is so lame and incompetent about ending any REAL wars, he happily presided over that Repub War of Choice based on a Repub lie for the entirety of his first term, every day, hour and minute of it, and left the actual ending of it to a much better man and much better president, Joe Biden, who did end it with the least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in a War in the history of modern warfare. And that was despite the horrifically bad negotiation and USA troop conditions Trump had handed him in January 2021.
That was also after another much better man and president than Trump, Barack Obama, had previously ended another quagmire Repub War of Choice in Iraq based on a Repub lie.
See how that works?
If Trump ever had the slightest clue how or the ability to end any war, why couldn't he end the only war over which he served as Commander-in-Chief for the entirety of his first presidential term? Instead, there is only overwhelming evidence that he is very good at starting quagmire Repub Wars of Choice Based on his lies. Where next? Cuba? Greenland? Denmark? Canada? Oh, you ought to really enjoy that one.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3075227]Yeah Trump put on his cape and boots and saved the planet. LMAO.[/QUOTE]He hasn't saved the planet yet. He still needs to stop Iran which is difficult but probable. Eliminating Iran nuclear threat and eliminating Iran support of terrorists will be his greatest accomplishment. The only people in the world that won't be happy about it will be the democrats / socialist / communist party.
[QUOTE=Canada;3075244]He hasn't saved the planet yet. He still needs to stop Iran which is difficult but probable. Eliminating Iran nuclear threat and eliminating Iran support of terrorists will be his greatest accomplishment. The only people in the world that won't be happy about it will be the democrats / socialist / communist party.[/QUOTE]In other words the only people rooting for the IRCG terrorists and murderers are nihilists, totalitarians, Jacobins, haters, and the "useful idiots" with TDS who hate Trump, America and Western Civilization so much that they actually want to see the IRCG fascists win this war no matter what that will subsequently mean for the entire world. Amazing!
[QUOTE=Canada;3075244]He hasn't saved the planet yet. He still needs to stop Iran which is difficult but probable. Eliminating Iran nuclear threat and eliminating Iran support of terrorists will be his greatest accomplishment. The only people in the world that won't be happy about it will be the democrats / socialist / communist party.[/QUOTE]Your idol Trump won't change islamist mollahs in Iran, when he already failed. I think, with Netanyahou and Putin, your Trump is more dangerous than mollahs for our world. China is also more dangerous. But I would be very happy for Iranians if they could build a democracy, but your Trump won t help them, like he stopped to help Ukraine, now supported by others.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3075166]So why is CATL the king of lithium batteries, making sodium batter? This past June, the world's biggest battery company walked on stage in Munich and revealed a grid storage system with [B]zero lithium inside[/B], suddenly pouring billions into sodium, a chemistry?
Well, CATL's Tener Sodium grid BESS, runs entirely on sodium batteries [I](no supply-chain issues, no lithium, no cobal, no nickel, no fossil fuels for the naysayers to nit pick about mining practices they themselves abuse at every turn)[/I] just an abundance of sodium (found anywhere) and groundbreaking clean electrotech in the form of a BESS..[/QUOTE]Maybe one of these days you will actually have real experiences in vehicles in the USA versus having orgasms at the latest green agenda. For someone like myself who lives in the real world, I had to get a Tesla with the FSD (full service driving) within it for someone who was not that great of a driver. I wanted the latest hardware for the FSD and found a great discount at a dealer in California. I was going to have the car shipped, but the dealer would not call me back. So I was like, did they take my money and my car? And I flew out. The good news was the car was all set and ready to go and that the FSD was not going to cost me $100 a month because the previous owner had bought a lifetime of FSD.
There were a few kinks to learn about but the FSD was incredible. It works 99.9% of the time but all anyone wanted to talk about was the 0. 1% of the time it failed. When the FSD fails (it would not advance when there was debris on the road), I took over. I dreaded the charging time, but the car calculated when the car needed to be charged, and I was shocked at how time and again, the time to charge was less than I expected. I thought the charge times would be 30 minutes but through California, Arizona, New Mexico, and El Paso, the charge times never went over 15 minutes. In fact, a few stations were so quick I charged up in 5 minutes. Literally the only task I had to do was plug and unplug the car. The Tesla maneuvered through traffic in the big cities effortlessly even during crowded rush hours.
And then came West Texas. The Tesla decided to take I20 versus I10 which cost me two hours. Then it could not find the charging station in Fort Stockton. I thought I could make it until the next city but quickly saw I could not and had to double back. That cost me another hour. And the superchargers in West Texas were not that super. What took 5 to 10 minutes in other parts of the country took 30 to 40 minutes in West Texas. When I hit San Antonio after dealing with Hill Country flodding, things were as smooth as in the other regions.
Add it up and the cost of fueling the trip was half to a third of what gasoline would have done, but the problem is charging and subpar superchargers and poor directions added six hours onto the trip. So for once, your claim of EVs being cheaper finally came true, but it came at the expense of a much slower trip.
Thing is the Tesla claim of battery ranges of 200+ and 300+ miles was absolute bullshit. The longest leg the Tesla did between charges was 170 miles, and I am not sure it could ever have even made it 200 miles. The computer system was so good at calculating range that I never really felt the battery range anxiety but the range was pathetic.
Of course, the plug in hybrids have a gas burning generator that recharges the battery. A 10 gallon generator can give a car a 2,000 mile range. A 5 gallon one could have made it one thousand milles which would have made it so I did not have to stop anywhere in West Texas, and that is when I realized that much of Tesla has been as cult like with regards to fossil fuels as you have been Spidy. It is not enough that you cut down the amount of gasoline on said trip from 60 gallons of gasoline to five. No, it HAS to be zero.
And as usual, you are all orgasmic at the latest Chinese propaganda announcement and you once again miss the key point: Sodium-ion batteries store less energy by weight or volume, which means that you need bigger batteries to store the same amount of energy compared to lithium batteries. This limits their appeal for mobile devices and electric vehicles where manufacturers are inclined toward lightweight solutions.
So yeah, maybe sodium batteries have a place over Lithium with regards to batteries that do not need to be moved, but if they have to be moved around in something like an EV, they are inferior to Lithium. That is just physics.
But are there any batteries that can do 2,000 miles like a generator with ten gallons of gasoline could have? No fucking way! And that is where you and the rest of the climate change nuts look so stupid. Why Tesla insists that their cars only have 200 miles of range versus 2000 is beyond me. The only financial reason for this is Tesla is making huge bank at their charging stations.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3075232]Ah. Found some links for you!
In the AI Overview:
Now, I looked for a link for the one war Trump appears to be most proud of ending because he has mentioned it multiple times; The War between "Aberbijian" and Albania. But I have yet to find any information on how that one has been going since he ended it.
Interesting that Trump never mentions the War in Afghanistan when he lists the wars that America was engaged in that lasted longer, so far, than his latest quagmire Repub War of Choice in Iran based on his lies. You know, "The Vietnam War lasted 19 years!" and so on? Which is odd since Repub GW Bush's quagmire War of Choice in Afghanistan based on his lies was the longest war America was engaged in..[/QUOTE]I don't read your pessimistic posts anymore. They are meaningless anti America posts. So don't bother to reply to mine.
Aug 8, 2025: Longtime foes Armenia and Azerbaijan ink historic peace deal at the White House vow to back Trump for Nobel prize.
"Washington President Trump hosted the leaders of longtime enemies Armenia and Azerbaijan at the White House on Friday to sign a peace accord built around a new railway in the region with the formerly at-war leaders vowing to jointly recommend the US president for the Nobel Peace Prize.
The US-developed transit initiative dubbed the "Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity" will transect the sparsely populated south of Armenia, the world's oldest Christian nation, while linking Azerbaijan's capital, Baku, on the Caspian Sea to its Nakhchivan exclave touching Turkey.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev appeared at-ease at an afternoon press appearance where they signed the documents united in lavishing praise on the Trump after he volunteered to mediate any future issues between the former Soviet republics".
Of course, you won't hear much about this important peace treaty from the fake news outlets. They would rather feed raw meet to their left-wing viewers in the form of everything Trump does is evil and self-serving rather than actually giving an objective account of what is really going on.
But then, oops, more good news: Azerbaijan + Albania Leaders Meet in "April 2026: Azerbaijan's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jeyhun Bayramov, met with Albania's Minister for Europe and Foreign Affairs, Ferit Hoxha, during the Antalya Diplomacy Forum 2026 en. Apa. Az. The meeting took place in the context of strengthening bilateral and multilateral cooperation between the two countries".
Sounds a little like peace to me. But no, according to the far-left Democrats, Trump is involved, so it can't be peace. It has to be something else. 555! This is the way the legacy media, and CNN constantly prop up the far left in the USA. Sadly, for us all, they have become the propaganda wing of the Democratic party or perhaps I should say, the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) because DSA has apparently taken over the Democratic Party without a fight.
Canada, I gave up on BKK Bob along time ago when I sent him the St. Louis FED's CPI monthly data from 1974 to 1985 which clearly showed, even a 12 year old kid could see it, that hyperinflation not only did not end under Jimm Carter's term in office, but actually continued to skyrocket until the 1982 recession clearly showing that it was Reagan's and Volker's tight money policies that tamed inflation until befuddled Joe Biden starting fucking around with oil and gas pipelines and the entire petrochemical industry in the USA. BKK's response to the data I shared with him was thanks for giving me the data which proves my point that Carter defeated hyperinflation. L was astounded by this response, but then I realized I was dealing with a flat earther, and no amount of objective information would ever change his mind.
And BKK Bob's propaganda fantasies got worse. Reagan's tight money policy was like chemotherapy to the seriously ailing American economy I. E. Tough, but very necessary treatment to save the patient. This Reagon policy was an act of political courage and leadership. He knew damn well that the tight money would lead to a recession, but it was the only to cure for 21% interest rates. So, the GDP figures for Reagan's first 2 years in office are accordingly low. Rather than acknowledge the reason why the GDP numbers were low, out boy in BKK ignorantly keeps comparing Regan's GDP numbers unfavorably to Carter's GDP completely missing how things actually were back then. Only a flat earther or a far-left wing propagandist or a very incompetent economist would attempt that and what really bugged me at the time was his implicant attitude that I was too dumb to catch on to the game he plays. Oh, by the way after the deep recession of 1982, the economy bounced back to record levels and inflation remained tame until Biden.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3074785]Subcmmdr, Hope your doing well and slayin that Thailand pussy.
Just read a few posts so I don't know exactly what you and Heyst are arguing about, but its not always easy for people to come to terms with white privilege to the point a lot of people just can't accept it fully. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Yes, please explain to me about how a "poor black man", who has a pension and social security that likely amounts to over $100 k a year and would put him in the top 1% of all wage earners in the world is being oppressed by white American men while living in Thailand and fucking Thai hookers? Yes, you got me because I sure as hell do not understand that.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3074787]LOL this some funny shit lololol.[/QUOTE]And did you really have to quote SC again:
The bond market always sees through the male bovine excrement manipulation.
The long-term interest rates for USA Treasury Bonds (T-Bonds) are currently represented by yields of 5. 08% for the 20-year bond and 5. 07% for the 30-year bond as of July 13,2026.
Ask your man Elvis2008 what happens to bond prices when interest rates go up.
End of quote. Are you joking? Not that I own treasuries, but if Bond prices go down when interest rates go up that makes them a better bargain unless you think the underlying issue is the USA is going to default on its debt. Seeing as how SC is predicting the USA defaulting on its debt is going to happen soon, ask him what is going to happen to his stock prices when the USA has defaulted on its debt? I am just waiting for his post on how he has sold all his momentum plays at their peak.
When I asked SC why he was invested in Nvidia, he did not come up with a compelling answer. He just said that people will always pay for the fastest chips which I didn't get. For the longest time, the processor speed of a PC was nothing in comparison to the speed of the internet connection. Unless you were playing the most modern of games or doing massive video editing, no one needed the latest and greatest PC chip or graphics card. And when people did not need fast PCs, Intel's stock went to shit.
I finally did see what the AI fuss was about though where you needed the latest and greatest video chips, and I saw it with a gag. I had a photo of my gal's daughter and friends and told an AI source to make a video of these women having a cat fight. One service made up a free 10 second video that was mildly amusing and then wanted payment. I got blocked again and again and then finally settled on Google's Gemini. It was like $20 a month to create ten 10 second videos. It did one decent video and then there was an endless string of reasons it could not create any more videos after several minutes wasted attempting. The video I wanted was against Google guidelines or it violated copyright laws. Of course, being the pervert I am, I thought having an AI video of Jackie O munching on Betty Grable's carpet would have been cool or maybe a porn where I was banging Marilyn Monroe, but that was not happening with Gemini, and I cancelled the service. The AI was too fucking PC.
I was talking to a family member running into the same problems with AI, and he was trying to use it for more legitimate purposes. Thing is he was telling me the Chinese were keeping up with open AI and all the big boys by copying what they were doing. Sure, the few American players were leading but there were dozens of Chinese knockoffs running for cheap that were just a few months behind. I then was listening to TWIT, this week in technology, and the moderator LEO Laporte had downloaded a free Chinese AI program onto his desktop. Now having a fast PC and fast graphics card mattered a lot more then fast internet. Best of all, the Chinese do not give a shit about copyright law.
So I am looking at what kind of PC to build that can handle this AI program, and it is in the $2000 range with an adequate Nvidia graphics card, but if you want a state of the art graphics card, that $2000 PC goes up to $5000. From my experience with PCs, when you pay top dollar like that, you usually get just a smidge better performance but we will see. If the $2000 PC can quickly produce a 10 minute graphic porn of my banging Marilyn Monroe in stunning HD, then the AI revolution and Nvidia is dead. There is no way in hell I am paying for some shit subscription model after that. However, if it takes the PC days to make a lame soft porn version with VHS quality video then Nvidia and AI have room to run. I will know for sure once I get my PC, but my guess is the former not the latter is true.
2 more US soldiers killed in Iran war. Big success for Trump, same like ICE crimes.
The United States has designated Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1984, citing its support for armed groups across the region.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075363]2 more US soldiers killed in Iran war. Big success for Trump, same like ICE crimes.[/QUOTE]I can't figure out if you support the terrorists or you just hate Trump or both.
Do you know how many Persians have been killed by the IRGC while desperately trying to hold on to power? 'Based on conducted investigations, field research, verification of received images and videos, and interviews with multiple sources inside Iran, at least 43,000 people have so far been killed by agents of the Islamic Republic during the recent protests on the streets of Iran. ". International Center for Human Rights in Iran. Toronto, Canada January 20,2026.
And do know How Many Americans Have Iran and Its Proxies Killed Since 1979? Here is a list: In April 1983, a suicide car bombing at the US Embassy in Beirut killed 17 Americans. Months later, in October 1983,241 US military personnel were killed in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut.
Through the 1980's and 1990's, a series of bombings, hijackings, and kidnappings was attributed to Iran-backed groups, including Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad. These included the 1996 truck bombing at a US Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia that killed 19 US airmen and wounded nearly 500 others, and the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed 224 people, including a dozen Americans.
Between 2003 and 2011, Iran-backed militias killed at least 603 US troops in Iraq, described as "roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq."
In January 2007, gunmen affiliated with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Quds Force killed five US soldiers in Karbala, Iraq. In March 2007, former FBI agent Robert Levinson disappeared in Iran and likely died in prison, according to US officials.
More recently, the White House listed rocket and drone attacks in Iraq, Syria, and Jordan. In January 2024, Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah militants killed three US service members and wounded more than 40 others in a drone attack on a US base in Jordan.
And between October 2003 and November 2024, Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against US forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 service members and killing three.
And the final straw October 23,2024: "Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans" during the unprovoked October 7 attacks in Israel.
Then in "November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump".
And to keep it in perspective:
Do you know how many Allied troops died fighting the Nazis in WW2? Key Allied military losses by major power are.
United States: About 295,000300,000 killed in action or died of wounds History Learning.
United Kingdom & Commonwealth: Around 452,000 killed.
France: Approximately 250,000 killed.
Soviet Union: Over 13.6 million dead, including combat deaths, deaths in captivity, and those from famine and disease History Learning.
Other Allied nations: Smaller but significant losses from Poland (120,000), Belgium (10,000), the Netherlands (10,000), Norway (10,000), Greece (20,000), Yugoslavia (300,000), and Czechoslovakia (20,000). China: About 3. 5 million military deaths from 1937 onward.
Shall I keep going? Or do you get the point: this is a just war! Iran cannot be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. Period. All previous Presidents agree with this, But Trumo is the only American President with the guts and cohones to make sure it does not happen. So let's get real for a minute. I do not believe for one second that you give a rat's ass about world peace or American casualties.
But to make my point succinct; have you any idea how many soldiers (north and south) died in the American Civil War? The American Civil War, fought from 1861 to 1865, resulted in an estimated 752,000 to 851,000 military deaths, representing roughly 2 percent of the USA Population in 1860. So, by your logic, the Civil War was unjustified, and Lincoln was a war criminal. Get it? Your argument is weak and stretched. Nobody wants to see any American or innocent Persian casualties, but at the same time, there must be an end to the Regime, the end of Iran's nuclear ambitions and an end to their terrorism. Period! Of course, you are entitled to your opinion here in the West. Nobody on our side wishes you were dead. It is tragic that the other side while thrashing out blindly trying to kill anyone in the region can't. But don't fret. It will be over soon.
No problem. As I do so often for Canada, I can help you with links on those topics:
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075354]Aug 8, 2025: Longtime foes Armenia and Azerbaijan ink historic peace deal at the White House vow to back Trump for Nobel prize.
"Washington President Trump hosted the leaders of longtime enemies Armenia and Azerbaijan at the White House on Friday to sign a peace accord built around a new railway in the region with the formerly at-war leaders vowing to jointly recommend the US president for the Nobel Peace Prize.
The US-developed transit initiative dubbed the "Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity" will transect the sparsely populated south of Armenia, the world's oldest Christian nation, while linking Azerbaijan's capital, Baku, on the Caspian Sea to its Nakhchivan exclave touching Turkey.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev appeared at-ease at an afternoon press appearance where they signed the documents united in lavishing praise on the Trump after he volunteered to mediate any future issues between the former Soviet republics".
Of course, you won't hear much about this important peace treaty from the fake news outlets. They would rather feed raw meet to their left-wing viewers in the form of everything Trump does is evil and self-serving rather than actually giving an objective account of what is really going on.
But then, oops, more good news: Azerbaijan + Albania Leaders Meet in "April 2026: Azerbaijan's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jeyhun Bayramov, met with Albania's Minister for Europe and Foreign Affairs, Ferit Hoxha, during the Antalya Diplomacy Forum 2026 en. Apa. Az. The meeting took place in the context of strengthening bilateral and multilateral cooperation between the two countries".
Sounds a little like peace to me. But no, according to the far-left Democrats, Trump is involved, so it can't be peace. It has to be something else. 555! This is the way the legacy media, and CNN constantly prop up the far left in the USA. Sadly, for us all, they have become the propaganda wing of the Democratic party or perhaps I should say, the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) because DSA has apparently taken over the Democratic Party without a fight.
Canada, I gave up on BKK Bob along time ago when I sent him the St. Louis FED's CPI monthly data from 1974 to 1985 which clearly showed, even a 12 year old kid could see it, that hyperinflation not only did not end under Jimm Carter's term in office, but actually continued to skyrocket until the 1982 recession clearly showing that it was Reagan's and Volker's tight money policies that tamed inflation until befuddled Joe Biden starting fucking around with oil and gas pipelines and the entire petrochemical industry in the USA. BKK's response to the data I shared with him was thanks for giving me the data which proves my point that Carter defeated hyperinflation. L was astounded by this response, but then I realized I was dealing with a flat earther, and no amount of objective information would ever change his mind.
And BKK Bob's propaganda fantasies got worse. Reagan's tight money policy was like chemotherapy to the seriously ailing American economy I. E. Tough, but very necessary treatment to save the patient. This Reagon policy was an act of political courage and leadership. He knew damn well that the tight money would lead to a recession, but it was the only to cure for 21% interest rates. So, the GDP figures for Reagan's first 2 years in office are accordingly low. Rather than acknowledge the reason why the GDP numbers were low, out boy in BKK ignorantly keeps comparing Regan's GDP numbers unfavorably to Carter's GDP completely missing how things actually were back then. Only a flat earther or a far-left wing propagandist or a very incompetent economist would attempt that and what really bugged me at the time was his implicant attitude that I was too dumb to catch on to the game he plays. Oh, by the way after the deep recession of 1982, the economy bounced back to record levels and inflation remained tame until Biden.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what that first graph you posted is showing us. But that second one is clearly showing us Real GDP results were better under Carter than under Reagan, factoring in Carter was in office only 4 years vs Reagan's 8 years and especially noting that, unlike Reagan, Carter didn't have to triple the National Debt and for the first time turn America into the World's Greatest Debtor Nation to buy those superior results. And as Repub GHW Bush continued to do until Clinton and his pre Nude Grinbitch congress Democratic Congress tackled the Repub Deadbeats' out-of-control Deficit Spending and brought fiscal sanity back to the Federal Government. Well, until Repubs GW Bush and especially Trump got their way, that is.
Thanks.
Of course, we already knew Carter's average annual private-sector jobs creation results were superior to Reagan's, Eisenhower's, Nixon / Ford's, Bush1, Bush2 and, LOL, do I even have to mention Hoover and Trump? Lolol.
[B]Jobs Created By President[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms[/URL]
[B]Reaganomics[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics[/URL]
[QUOTE]During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion. [B]This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[/b] Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]Yes, please explain to me about how a "poor black man", who has a pension and social security that likely amounts to over $100 k a year and would put him in the top 1% of all wage earners in the world is being oppressed by white American men while living in Thailand and fucking Thai hookers? Yes, you got me because I sure as hell do not understand that.
And did you really have to quote SC again:
The bond market always sees through the male bovine excrement manipulation.[/QUOTE]Same thing I said to Heyst. Much of the time I appreciate your posts and our views align on many issues. Sometimes your a little too extreme for my tastes, but at the end of the day its a sex guide forum so who gives a fuck.
I am just saying white privilege is a very real concept. American born Caucasians "on average" do not have as many hurdles to overcome and have access to more opportunities. It doesn't take anything away from anyone's personal accomplishments and it is not meant to demean Caucasians in anyway, its just a reality many African Americans face. Its a very complicated subject. And again, its a concept that I think is very hard for Caucasians to fully understand and accept. A big part of that is because Caucasians do tend to be very responsible and productive and trust me I do understand how that can be offensive, especially when you have over come a great deal of adversity to succeed.
I don't want to get to deep into it, but its not always easy to be seen as some one who may be a "problem" because of the stereo types associated with a minority. This begins at a young age in grade school and stays with people to the day they die sometimes. Its especially harder when you are a very capable and accomplished person as well. People do judge others and react a certain way to protect themselves, its just a reality. To have to experience that everyday is a strain and an extra hurdle. There is a very long, deep, and complicated history of oppression which basically caused all of it as well. I think its important to acknowledge it to bring USA to a more unified front as well as its a harsh reality for many.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075363]2 more US soldiers killed in Iran war.[/QUOTE]They signed up. They took the oath. They knew the risks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075363]Big success for Trump,[/QUOTE]I see your irony. Others don't.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075363]same like ICE crimes.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct since the head of the Article 2 branch over government uses this agency as his secret police to kill minorities in the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381]Or do you get the point: this is a just war![/QUOTE]War is never just. War is just war. People get killed. Those cheering it one have never picked up a gun with the purpose of using it to protect others if necessary. In other words they are arm chair warriors.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075363]2 more US soldiers killed in Iran war. Big success for Trump, same like ICE crimes.[/QUOTE]Just as Repub president Eisenhower did with his 19 year long Repub War of Choice in Vietnam, Repub Trump has fully committed America and its Military to his Repub War of Choice but refuses to do what inevitably must be done to achieve any of his stated objectives or spend years and years lingering in this state of idiocy; put ground troops in country. Lots of them.
Instead and until then, we will just see trickles of Repub Trump War in Iran dead Americans being sent back in bodybags for a few years achieving nothing until the next President comes along, probably a Dem, who then will have no choice but to do the dirty work and make the difficult decisions that must be made if there will ever be an end to Trump's Repub War of Choice, very likely a stalemate at best or another humiliating and utterly predictable Repub defeat and loss at worst.
All along the way typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will spin it that Trump's Repub War in Iran was "started by" the Dem handed his colossal mess of everything to clean up and take the heat for it.
And ill-informed unpatriotic American numbskulls will fall for that lie again.
That is predictable as night following day.
He supposedly has me on ignore yet managed to read and reply to almost every post I make. He shares this trait with many another posters. Either way I appreciate all who read and reply to my work. Even if I do not like the replys. [B]ROTFLMAO[/B]!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]Yes, please explain to me about how a "poor black man", who has a pension and social security that likely amounts to over $100 k a year and would put him in the top 1% of all wage earners in the world is being oppressed by white American men while living in Thailand and fucking Thai hookers? Yes, you got me because I sure as hell do not understand that.[/QUOTE]Whenever you begin to count the money of another grown man instead of paying attention to his own then he is likely to get confused.
I'm not eligible for Social Security. But when I am I will collect it as I have paid into it my entire working life. Elvis 2008 will collect it also. Unless he structured his personal business in such a way that he does't have any earned income.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]And did you really have to quote SC again[/QUOTE]Yes he did. Because [B]RamDavison84[/B] can disagree on politics without getting it twisted and engaging in [B]Ad hominem[/B] attacks on each other.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]Are you joking?[/QUOTE]No I am not.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358] Not that I own treasuries, [/QUOTE]But I have seen you suggest that Bonds are a good investment.
[QUOTE]Investors buy U.S. Treasury bonds primarily for capital preservation, steady income, and portfolio diversification.*
As debt securities backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, they are considered among the safest investments available with negligible default risk.
While yields are generally lower than corporate bonds or stocks, Treasury bonds provide a predictable income stream and stability that is essential for conservative investors, retirees, and those seeking to balance high-risk portfolios.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]If Bond prices go down when interest rates go up that makes them a better bargain unless you think the underlying issue is the USA is going to default on its debt. [/QUOTE]There are more issues to buying debt than just the risk of default. [B]There is interest rate risk[/B].
Ask Elvis 2008 what is going to happen to the economy of the Dis United States of America the moment they start lowing rates in the face of 3. 5% inflation when 2% is the goal?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]Seeing as how SC is predicting the USA defaulting on its debt is going to happen soon, [/QUOTE]I have made no such prediction.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]ask him what is going to happen to his stock prices when the USA has defaulted on its debt? [/QUOTE]I defer to this man:
[QUOTE]Warren Buffetts Berkshire Hathaway is holding a record $397 billion in cash and short-term Treasury bills as of the end of Q1 2026. This figure represents approximately one-third of the companys total market value and is the largest cash reserve in its history.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]I am just waiting for his post on how he has sold all his momentum plays at their peak.[/QUOTE]What is a momentum play?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075358]When I asked SC why he was invested in Nvidia, he did not come up with a compelling answer. He just said that people will always pay for the fastest chips which I didn't get. [/QUOTE]As with everything Elvis 2008 writes when it comes to me, the above paragraph is a complete lie. I told Elvis 2008 that people will always pay for the fastest chips. At the time I bought NVDA it had the best gaming chips on the planet. Before they figured out that the Gaming Chip architecture works well for AI. Now think of the run NVDA has had. I'll let you guess the amount of profit I made with just this one trade.
[B]After all Elvis2008, you like to count my money![/B]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381]The United States has designated Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1984, citing its support for armed groups across the region.
I can't figure out if you support the terrorists or you just hate Trump or both.
Do you know how many Persians have been killed by the IRGC while desperately trying to hold on to power? 'Based on conducted investigations, field research, verification of received images and videos, and interviews with multiple sources inside Iran, at least 43,000 people have so far been killed by agents of the Islamic Republic during the recent protests on the streets of Iran. ". International Center for Human Rights in Iran. Toronto, Canada January 20,2026.
And do know How Many Americans Have Iran and Its Proxies Killed Since 1979? Here is a list: In April 1983, a suicide car bombing at the US Embassy in Beirut killed 17 Americans. Months later, in October 1983,241 US military personnel were killed in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut..[/QUOTE]I hate Trump, Putin and Netanyahou, when I love Russia and I have nothing against Americans and Israelis, I just think they are not clever to re elect Trump. When CIA reported no nuclear threat, already 8 US soldiers dead, but less than 150 Iranian girls in a school, were they terrorists? If I was a father of one, I would have only one aim in my life now, to shoot Trump better than what are able Americans. Trump is a danger for our world, lying fucking Americans and polluting our planet, when he knows rest of his life is short. Worst ever president of USA for our world. Not only weak Iran, but Irak, rich Saudi and Qatar, even Russia and China, support terrorism. Before Trump, no problem in Ormuz. With Trump, new problem and inflation. I look forward after him and I m fully sure billions, not only one, on our earth think like me, we will live better without him. Same for his little dog Vance.
At some point a hearing will have to be held to find out why Donald Trump wanted Iran to develop nuclear weapons so much and then granted them all the time, the means, the motivation and soon the money to do it.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]The Iran Nuclear deal was confirmed by the Trump administration to be working before he tore it up [/b]
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[B]Yes, before withdrawing the United States from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in 2018, the Trump administrationalong with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)officially confirmed and certified that Iran was broadly adhering to the terms of the nuclear agreement.[/b]
Key Details and Context Official Certification: In April 2017, [b]the Trump administration quietly certified to Congress that Iran was complying with the nuclear deal, formally acknowledging that the restrictions were working as intended.[/b]
Effectiveness of the Deal: Independent monitors, U.S. allies, and international security experts [b]widely agreed[/b] the deal was succeeding in its primary objective. Before the agreement, Iran's "breakout time" (the time required to produce enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon) was just two to three months. The JCPOA's strict monitoring and dismantling of centrifuges extended that breakout time to more than 12 months.
Why the Deal was Scrapped: Despite the administration's own certifications of Iranian compliance, President Trump ultimately chose to withdraw from the pact in May 2018. He frequently criticized the agreement as the "worst deal ever," arguing that it failed to address Iran's ballistic missile program, regional influence, and did not impose permanent restrictions on its nuclear activities.
[B]The Aftermath: Following the U.S. withdrawal and the restoration of economic sanctions, Iran eventually abandoned many of its operational constraints under the deal and resumed higher levels of uranium enrichment.[/b] To dive deeper into the original agreement, how it was monitored, and the timeline of the U.S. withdrawal, you can read the comprehensive Wikipedia United States Withdrawal from the Iran Nuclear Deal entry or review the Council on Foreign Relations Backgrounder on the JCPOA.What Is the Iran Nuclear Deal? - Council on Foreign RelationsUnder its terms, Iran agreed to dismantle much of its nuclear program and open its facilities to more extensive international inspections in exchange for billio...Council on Foreign RelationsWhat was in the Iran nuclear deal and why did Trump withdraw the US from it?Jun 22, 2568 BE The Trump administration said at the time that Iran "negotiated the JCPOA in bad faith, and the deal gave the Iranian regime too much in exchange for too little...ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and VideosThe Historic Deal that Will Prevent Iran from Acquiring a Nuclear WeaponOn January 16, 2016, the International Atomic Energy Agency verified that Iran has completed the necessary steps under the Iran deal that will ensure Iran's nuc...[/QUOTE]So Iran had already agreed, in writing, to never develop nuclear weapons, the very words Trump today is trying in vain to get them to agree to again. Good luck with that. All responsible parties had confirmed that Iran was in compliance with that agreement, including the Trump administration, twice. But Trump could not resist his inexplicable urge to tear up that deal and allow Iran to do anything it damn well pleased over the next 9 years.
The American people and the rest of the World deserve an answer for why Trump loved Iran so much and hated America so much that he handed Iran every hour, means, motivation and soon the money to develop nuclear weapons. Is it because he, his Crime Family and their cronies now stand to make Billions and Billions of dollars on blood-thirsty Repub Forever War defense contracts?
Hopefully, the hearings will begin next year.
[B]From the Hoover Institution (not exactly a liberal organization):[/B]
[U]The Long Shadows Of Slavery And Jim Crow: Uncovering The Economic Impact On Black Americans.[/U]
Click and read the article (take you about 4 minutes is the estimate). Educate yourselves. I would name names but you know who you are.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long...lack-americans[/URL]
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]Same thing I said to Heyst. Much of the time I appreciate your posts and our views align on many issues. Sometimes your a little too extreme for my tastes, [b]but at the end of the day its a sex guide forum so who gives a fuck.[/b]
[b]I am just saying white privilege is a very real concept. American born Caucasians "on average" do not have as many hurdles to overcome and have access to more opportunities.[/b] It doesn't take anything away from anyone's personal accomplishments and it is not meant to demean Caucasians in anyway, its just a reality many African Americans face. Its a very complicated subject. And again, its a concept that I think is very hard for Caucasians to fully understand and accept. A big part of that is because Caucasians do tend to be very responsible and productive and trust me I do understand how that can be offensive, especially when you have over come a great deal of adversity to succeed.
I don't want to get to deep into it, but its not always easy to be seen as some one who may be a "problem" because of the stereo types associated with a minority. This begins at a young age in grade school and stays with people to the day they die sometimes. Its especially harder when you are a very capable and accomplished person as well. People do judge others and react a certain way to protect themselves, its just a reality. To have to experience that everyday is a strain and an extra hurdle. There is a very long, deep, and complicated history of oppression which basically caused all of it as well. I think its important to acknowledge it to bring USA to a more unified front as well as its a harsh reality for many.[/QUOTE]This is the most intelligent and honest post I have read in a long time on ISG.
I like to have fun with words. Word Play. When I write [B]poor black man[/B] does anyone really take my seriously that is what I mean in the literal since? Or could it be that I am using sarcasm to make a point?
I'm not a hater. In spite of all the hurdles that I faced, by all measures you could say I live a good life. I am personally not satisfied with it because believe if I did not have to face the problems that often develop just because a person looks at me, I would have achieved even more. But I don't live my life in [I]could of, should of[/I] mode. I live right here in the day to day reality of IRL situations that I face.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3074785]Subcmmdr, Hope your doing well and slayin that Thailand pussy.[/QUOTE]Damn straight I am [B]RamDavidson[/B]. I am pursing my rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Declaration of Independence did not say I was only allowed to do that in the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3074785]Just read a few posts so I don't know exactly what you and Heyst are arguing about, but its not always easy for people to come to terms with white privilege to the point a lot of people just can't accept it fully. Just my two cents. Heyst has put a lot of good info in a lot of forums though.[/QUOTE]I don't drag my disagreements with individuals from forum to forum as others do. I come here e to speak my opinions on [B]American Politics[/B]. You made a good point saying it does not matter. Any disagreements here is not going to do anything to stop me from meeting my objective.
[B]My objective is to nut[/B]
Did you know this:
[QUOTE][b]The White House[/b] was built in large part by enslaved African Americans. Construction began in 1792, and after plans to import European workers failed, commissioners turned to enslaved and free Black laborers to provide the bulk of the workforce. These individuals were hired from slave owners in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C., with wages paid directly to the owners.
Enslaved workers performed critical tasks at every stage of construction, including quarrying and cutting sandstone at Aquia Creek, sawing lumber, making bricks, and carpentry. Historical records, such as 1795 wage rolls, list specific enslaved carpenters like Tom, Peter, Ben, Harry, and Daniel, some of whom were owned by the building's architect, James Hoban. They worked alongside white wage laborers and immigrants from Ireland and Scotland.
Over 200 known enslaved individuals labored to build the White House and the Capitol, with hundreds more involved in clearing the land and preparing the site. The government did not own these slaves outright but leased them on a contract basis. This history was notably highlighted by former First Lady Michelle Obama in 2016, who stated, "I wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves."[/QUOTE]I think that is a little bit of [B]American History[/B] that many are unaware of or simply would be far more comfortable if I didn't point out such things.
Is is true that the current head of the Article 2 branch of government bought 20 different stocks and then promoted them on his social media?
If he did that is he selling his own insider information?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075354]Aug 8, 2025: Longtime foes Armenia and Azerbaijan ink historic peace deal at the White House vow to back Trump for Nobel prize.
"Washington President Trump hosted the leaders of longtime enemies Armenia and Azerbaijan at the White House on Friday to sign a peace accord built around a new railway in the region with the formerly at-war leaders vowing to jointly recommend the US president for the Nobel Peace Prize.
The US-developed transit initiative dubbed the "Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity" will transect the sparsely populated south of Armenia, the world's oldest Christian nation, while linking Azerbaijan's capital, Baku, on the Caspian Sea to its Nakhchivan exclave touching Turkey.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev appeared at-ease at an afternoon press appearance where they signed the documents united in lavishing praise on the Trump after he volunteered to mediate any future issues between the former Soviet republics".
Of course, you won't hear much about this important peace treaty from the fake news outlets. They would rather feed raw meet to their left-wing viewers in the form of everything Trump does is evil and self-serving rather than actually giving an objective account of what is really going on...[/QUOTE]Totally agree. The fake news networks will never give Trump credit for the good he is doing in the world. They will have their opinion (nothing factual) on how Trump stopped a war trying to cast doubt of the the Trump successes. Then liberal fools read these opinions and use these links of these opinions to try to disclaim Trump success. It really shows how these fools must be leading a miserable life and can't accept the fact of American successes.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075435]I hate Trump, Putin and Netanyahou, when I love Russia and I have nothing against Americans and Israelis, I just think they are not clever to re elect Trump. When CIA reported no nuclear threat, already 8 US soldiers dead, but less than 150 Iranian girls in a school, were they terrorists? If I was a father of one, I would have only one aim in my life now, to shoot Trump better than what are able Americans. Trump is a danger for our world, lying fucking Americans and polluting our planet, when he knows rest of his life is short. Worst ever president of USA for our world. Not only weak Iran, but Irak, rich Saudi and Qatar, even Russia and China, support terrorism. Before Trump, no problem in Ormuz. With Trump, new problem and inflation. I look forward after him and I m fully sure billions, not only one, on our earth think like me, we will live better without him. Same for his little dog Vance.[/QUOTE]My big mistake: not 8, but 16 US deaths since Iran war, but just meat for Trump attending Worldcup final, same like Putin with Russian meat.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381] there must be an end to the Regime[/QUOTE]Has not happened.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381] the end of Iran's nuclear ambitions[/QUOTE]Has not happened.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381] an end to their terrorism[/QUOTE]Will not happen Period!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381] Of course, you are entitled to your opinion here in the West[/QUOTE]You don't have the ability to grand anyone the permission to speak.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075381] It will be over soon.[/QUOTE]No it will not. Certainly not before the midterm elections.
[QUOTE=Canada;3075594]Totally agree. The fake news networks will never give Trump credit for the good he is doing in the world. They will have their opinion (nothing factual) on how Trump stopped a war trying to cast doubt of the the Trump successes. Then liberal fools read these opinions and use these links of these opinions to try to disclaim Trump success. It really shows how these fools must be leading a miserable life and can't accept the fact of American successes.[/QUOTE]The Dis United States of America is on a decline my man. They are going from a world power to a regional power. This war show this. You want to see how a war should be fought?
[URL]https://history.state.gov/departmenthistory/short-history/firstgulf[/URL]
President G. H. W. Bush was a great president AND a great man!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075354]Aug 8, 2025: Longtime foes Armenia and Azerbaijan ink historic peace deal at the White House vow to back Trump for Nobel prize.
"Washington President Trump hosted the leaders of longtime enemies Armenia and Azerbaijan at the White House on Friday to sign a peace accord built around a new railway in the region with the formerly at-war leaders vowing to jointly recommend the US president for the Nobel Peace Prize.
The US-developed transit initiative dubbed the "Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity" will transect the sparsely populated south of Armenia, the world's oldest Christian nation, while linking Azerbaijan's capital, Baku, on the Caspian Sea to its Nakhchivan exclave touching Turkey.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev appeared at-ease at an afternoon press appearance where they signed the documents united in lavishing praise on the Trump after he volunteered to mediate any future issues between the former Soviet republics"..[/QUOTE]Didn't Trump attack Iran on February? Now 16 US deaths, making messe in world economics. Didn't he attack Venezuela to rob petrol? Didn't he threaten Greenland when they don t want to become Americans. Funny, Spain won Worldcup in front of him. I remember his promise: peace and stopping Ukraine war in one day. Such lies and failures.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075666]Didn't Trump attack Iran on February? Now 16 US deaths, making messe in world economics. Didn't he attack Venezuela to rob petrol? Didn't he threaten Greenland when they don t want to become Americans. Funny, Spain won Worldcup in front of him. I remember his promise: peace and stopping Ukraine war in one day. Such lies and failures.[/QUOTE]Trump ended 8 wars the same way he won the FIFA World Cup for Spain.
What a fucking USA embarrassment:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbAFVJrvFNB/?igsh=MTloc3c5cnpzam1ubg==[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySv494wxJs[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3075734]Trump ended 8 wars the same way he won the FIFA World Cup for Spain.
What a fucking USA embarrassment:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbAFVJrvFNB/?igsh=MTloc3c5cnpzam1ubg==[/URL][/QUOTE]Real facts are he started new wars versus Iran, Venezuela and threaten everybody, making big shame on USA. Except for criminal Netanyahou, he is the worst ever president of USA for our world safety and planet health. I really can't understand how Americans could re elect him, when he was well known and after Capitol attack, just crazy.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]I am just saying white privilege is a very real concept.[/QUOTE]Sure, it is a real concept. It is an attempt for black people to steal wealth from white people by saying white people do not deserve the wealth they have and the less you have been around actual black people or the more racist you have been in the past, the more likely you are to accept it.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]American born Caucasians "on average" do not have as many hurdles to overcome and have access to more opportunities.[/QUOTE]Racism used to mean not making judgements on someone else based on race, which is what you just did. Now racist is something black people say to white people to have more financial opportunity which is why blacks cannot be racist. You have no fucking clue if a given black or white person had it harder when growing up but you make an assumption based on race? That is literally what racism used to be.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]Its a very complicated subject.[/QUOTE]No, it is a very simple con. It is black people taking or trying to take wealth and opportunity from white people and people who believe in white privilege are told it is difficult to understand because they do not want to believe they are being conned.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]It doesn't take anything away from anyone's personal accomplishments.[/QUOTE]That is literally what is the con. You would be called racist if you said the reason so many NBA players are black is because they gain from black privilege.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]I don't want to get to deep into it, but its not always easy to be seen as some one who may be a "problem" because of the stereo types associated with a minority. This begins at a young age in grade school and stays with people to the day they die sometimes. Its especially harder when you are a very capable and accomplished person as well.[/QUOTE]Oh brother, and here we go again with more stereotypical comments based on race.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3075400]There is a very long, deep, and complicated history of oppression which basically caused all of it as well. I think its important to acknowledge it to bring USA to a more unified front as well as its a harsh reality for many.[/QUOTE]Dude, if you want to hand over all your money to black people because you think that they have been oppressed, feel free to do so. It is when you get government involved and try to take money and opportunity forcibly away from whites that I have an issue.
From what I have seen, the people most likely to fall for the white privilege bullshit are the whites who were the most racist. Tops on that list are suburban white women who used to be Republicans but are now older and because they are somewhat dependent on social security and Medicare, they have gone Democrat. Decades earlier, if a black person moved into their neighborhood, they would be the first ones to move out and now they are like, "Elvis, did you know how badly oppressed blacks are?
The reason this bullshit does not work on me is I have socialized with blacks my whole life. They had preference for college admissions and government jobs when I was a teenager and still do. Now you have producers saying that if you are white and want to get into acting, you are going to have a much harder time than if you are black. Hell, it is so bad now that you got blacks playing historically white roles.
It is like this. Black on black crime is far more likely than white on black crime but because some are pushing the racism and white privilege angle, that is the excuse used, black are not doing as well because they are "held back" by whites. That is not what I saw. The race of people holding blacks back the most are blacks themselves.
Black life expectancy in America is much less than whites. If you are pushing the oppressed black narrative, then the reason for that is racism but that falls on its face when you look at blacks in Africa who have an even lower life expectancy. So when blacks live in predominantly white societies versus predominantly black ones, they live longer. It seems to me whites are elevating blacks then not oppressing them.
But it is a two way street. I benefitted from being around black people too. Two areas where black men are way ahead of their white counterparts are government cynicism and how they handle women. With women, there was a time in college when working when a black guy told his fellow workers, "If you all need some pussy, I know some fine women working in a hotel up the street. " I never heard a white guy say anything like that. There is none of this, "Well, you are a loser if you pay for it."
And when it comes to traveling abroad, it is not like blacks do not care about safety. They are just far more likely to trust individuals than government. When I fly to Colombia, what I see is the flight filled 2/3 with black men. When you talk to whites about flying to Colombia, many are too scared to go. They believe the government propaganda.
And a guy like SC is just some black dude who is laughing at all the white trigger language and at white people who will kiss his ass in order not to be called a racist. That bullshit about international trick and you cannot get a woman in your own country is the kind of shaming language that white people and usually white women use.
And AH, you have fallen for it: hook, line, and sinker. Guys like me are paying for his pension while he claims to be oppressed. In one post, he is a poor black man and in the next, he is raking it in with stocks, a stock system that white people set up. If you point out his wealth hypocrisy, you are a racist. Do you know any countries where black people are the majority and have an honest stock exchange? He makes money from the government with his pension and in the stock market and then trashes the USA.
That is not someone being oppressed by a nation or the white race; that is an ungrateful scumbag.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075813]Sure, it is a real concept. It is an attempt for black people to steal wealth from white people by saying white people do not deserve the wealth they have and the less you have been around actual black people or the more racist you have been in the past, the more likely you are to accept it.[/QUOTE]Complete and total bullshit wholly and utterly devoid of reality coming from a Trumptard white guy, who tries to deny who and what he most certainly is while projecting upon others, as he watches his savior's legacy taking its final swirls down the toilet bowl. This is why there always will be racism!
[U]The Dis United States of America is a racist county. Elvis2008 is in denial.[/U]
[QUOTE]That is not someone being oppressed by a nation or the white race; that is an ungrateful scumbag.[/QUOTE]What kind of delusional world do you need to live in when you think I need to be thankful to a nation who oppressed my people and still do?
[QUOTE]That bullshit about [b]international trick[/b] and you cannot get a woman in your own country is the kind of shaming language that white people and usually white women use.[/QUOTE]I am not shaming anyone. Who said:
[I]no one can make you feel inferior without your consent[/I] - That is an exercise for the reader.
If you leave your country of origin and fly to another country to hire a prostitute then your are a [B]International Trick[/B]. That is a fact!
If you do it and are ashamed of it that's on you Elvis2008.
[QUOTE]And a guy like SC is just some black dude who is laughing at all the white trigger language and at white people who will kiss his ass in order not to be called a racist.[/QUOTE]As with everything Elvis2008 writes about me this is a lie. I don't want anyone to kiss my ass. Lick my ass maybe, if the girl is into it. But to me it feels weird. I never ask for it. I would rather a girl deep throat and let me cum in her mouth.
[QUOTE]Guys like me are paying for his pension while he claims to be oppressed.[/QUOTE]If you mean part of the taxes you pay are used to pay the retirement obligations that the Dis United States Government has agreed to pay as part of an employment benefits working for the government, then what he says is true. But how much, pennies at most. I pay taxes too. So I am I paying myself?
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
My taxes are paying for the infrastructure that allows Elvis2008 to make frequent flights to Colombia in order to be a [B]International Trick[/B]. So how about we just call it even. He also trashes workers in the Dis United States Government. Without TSA there would be no physical security on the airplane. Without Air Traffic control there would be not safety operating the airplane. With the Airport there would be no flight. Without the State Department there would be no Passport. So all I see a man to wrapped up in his own political beliefs that he has become completely detached from the real world.
[QUOTE]In one post, he is a poor black man[/QUOTE]Maybe Elvis2008 missed this part of my post.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3075504]I like to have fun with words. Word Play. When I write [B]poor black man[/B] does anyone really take my seriously that is what I mean in the literal since? Or could it be that I am using sarcasm to make a point?[/QUOTE]Elvis2008 you called me a socialist right?
[QUOTE]and in the next, he is raking it in with stocks, a stock system that white people set up. Do you know any countries where black people are the majority and have an honest stock exchange?[/QUOTE]Do Socialists own stock?
White People set up the Stock Market eh? The reality of history can be a ***** for those who are unaware of it like Elvis2008. Because it happened right here in the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE]Black Wall Street was the popular name for the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma, a highly prosperous and self-sufficient African American business community established in the early 20th century.*
*The nickname was coined by Booker T. Washington, who visited the area in 1905 and referred to it as the "Negro Wall Street of America" due to its economic success and wealth accumulation among Black residents.*
The district featured numerous Black-owned businesses, including banks, hotels, theaters, and professional offices, thriving despite the restrictive Jim Crow laws that forced economic segregation.*
*This insular economy allowed wealth to circulate within the community, creating a middle and upper class of African Americans who achieved significant financial independence and social stability.*
The community was devastated during the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921, when white mobs burned over 1,400 homes and businesses, leaving nearly 10,000 people homeless.*
*Although the residents rebuilt the district, it eventually declined due to desegregation and economic shifts in the late 1950s. Today, sites like the Greenwood Cultural Center and John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park commemorate the history and resilience of Black Wall Street. [/QUOTE]Now we deal with the accusation that I am a wealth hypocrite.
[QUOTE]If you point out his wealth hypocrisy, you are a racist. [/QUOTE]How about your hypocrisy Elvis2008? He called me a socialist in the very first reply you even made to a post I made in the Colombia Threads? When I asked his justification or reasoning behind his statement, he has never answered.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3075504]I'm not a hater. In spite of all the hurdles that I faced, by all measures you could say I live a good life. I am personally not satisfied with it because believe if I did not have to face the problems that often develop just because a person looks at me, I would have achieved even more. But I don't live my life in [I]could of, should of[/I] mode. I live right here in the day to day reality of IRL situations that I face.[/QUOTE]Now Elvis2008 is counting my money again.
[QUOTE]He makes money from the government with his pension[/QUOTE]If I do and I am not saying I do, a pension is paid as a employment obligation that was mutually agree to by both parties. Does Elvis 2008 you have a problem with individuals with Military Pensions also?
All pensions paid by the Dis United States Government are earned. As is Social Security. I actually doubt Elvis2008 pays any taxes at all. He claims to own his own business. A business owner has plenty of options to use the Tax Code to his advantage. How do I know this? I own a business and I use the Tax Code to MY advantage.
[QUOTE]Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes."
Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810-11 (2d Cir. 1934).
"Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant."
Commissioner v. Newman, 159 F2d 848 (1947)[/QUOTE]What else does Elvis2008 have to say about me?
[QUOTE]and in stock market[/QUOTE]Now it is a crime for a black man to make money in the stock market. [B]Yes, the stock market.[/B] That has nothing to do with the government and everything to do with the work I personally put in to earn, save and invest what little capital I have. But Elvis2008 is hating on a black man who did it.
[B]ROTFLMAO[/B]
[QUOTE]and then trashes the USA.[/QUOTE]I can say what I want about the Dis United States of America. It is not the country I grew up in. I grew up in a country of hope. My fellow citizens have given up. Because they live in a country that has none anymore. They have caved in into the racists like Elvis 2008, Canada and AH. Thinking the Racist Republican party is going to save them. It isn't. There is no more hope in the Dis United States of America.
[U]Elvis2008 needs to read the United States Constitution[/U]
[QUOTE]The First Amendment to the United States Constitution, ratified on December 15, 1791, as part of the Bill of Rights, prohibits Congress from making laws that respect an establishment of religion, prohibit the free exercise of religion, abridge the freedom of speech or of the press, or interfere with the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition for redress of grievances.[/QUOTE][B]Check and Mate![/B]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075813]Sure, it is a real concept. It is an attempt for black people to steal wealth from white people by saying white people do not deserve the wealth they have and the less you have been around actual black people or the more racist you have been in the past, the more likely you are to accept it.
Racism used to mean not making judgements on someone else based on race, which is what you just did. Now racist is something black people say to white people to have more financial opportunity which is why blacks cannot be racist. You have no fucking clue if a given black or white person had it harder when growing up but you make an assumption based on race? That is literally what racism used to be.
No, it is a very simple con. It is black people taking or trying to take wealth and opportunity from white people and people who believe in white privilege are told it is difficult to understand because they do not want to believe they are being conned.
That is literally what is the con. You would be called racist if you said the reason so many NBA players are black is because they gain from black privilege..[/QUOTE]Like I said before, I am not getting deep into this and your entitled to what ever view you want regarding it. I also didn't read your whole post. Your also jumping to conclusions and putting words in my mouth. I don't think fiscal policy should revolve around a concept of "white privilege". I am not giving my money to anyone because of my white privilege. And of course I understand that politics is a game of cards and the "race card" is a powerful hand that African Americans strongly over play at times. Other times its absolutely justified. In the end though, I just think its important for everyone in the USA to fully understand the life experiences and hardships of others. It goes both ways, and again, I just don't feel like getting to deep into it as I am not a SJW in the slightest. Just base my views on what I have lived through and seen.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075802]Real facts are he started new wars versus Iran, Venezuela and threaten everybody, making big shame on USA. Except for criminal Netanyahou, he is the worst ever president of USA for our world safety and planet health. I really can't understand how Americans could re elect him, when he was well known and after Capitol attack, just crazy.[/QUOTE]The sole reason Trump got re-elected is because roughly 114,900 or less than 0. 75 of a percentage point of the probable hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters spread across the only three Swing States that mattered, PA, MI and WI, were influenced by millions of Musk campaign dollars targeting that demographic in those states and their Muslim Community Leaders to swing their usual Democratic Party vote away Harris or anyone else from the Biden Administration due to their rancor and animosity for its support for Israel in the War, which they extrapolated to being support for Netanyahu, who they hated.
And, yes, thanks to Netanyahu cleverly delaying honoring the May 2024 Biden-negotiated ceasefire until AFTER the November 2024 election in order to keep stoking that anti Biden Administration rancor and animosity right through to the election and thereby better insuring the razor-thin swing from that Muslim Community in those only three Swing States that mattered away from Harris and to the benefit of his boy, Donald Trump.
Which is also the bottom line reason Trump plunged America into this latest quagmire Repub War of Choice in the Middle East based on a Repub lie; Trump saw it as a nifty way to spend other people's money and lives to pay back Netanyahu for his incomparable help in getting him re-elected, kept out prison for a while and in a perfect position to grift Billions and Billions of dollars from corrupt endeavors into his and the pockets of his Crime Family and their cronies.
Otherwise, no typically Blue State handed a single "winning" Electoral College vote to Trump and no other typical Dem-voting demographic swung enough from Harris to Trump on any other issue in any state to re-elect Trump.
So it isn't really accurate to say "Americans re-elected Trump."
Instead, it is accurate to say some really stupid and self-loathing Americans voted to re-elected Trump while the clear majority of the American Electorate voted for "Not Trump", as in fact the majority did in all three elections in which Trump participated as a candidate.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3075834]Complete and total bullshit wholly and utterly devoid of reality coming from a Trumptard white guy, who tries to deny who and what he most certainly is while projecting upon others, as he watches his savior's legacy taking its final swirls down the toilet bowl.[/QUOTE]Typical Dem. There was all name calling and not one logical rebuttal. Not one. I am not sure how Trump even got into this but you are so filled to the gills with TDS he had to come up because in your warped mind anyone who voted for Trump is mentally inferior to you. Talk about prematurely judging groups.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3075834]This is why there always will be racism![/QUOTE]You Dems think that you are so superior but you cannot even define words anymore. A conservative makes a movie, and asks what a woman is and he got the EXACT same response you just gave to me, anger with no definition.
If blacks cannot be racist, then what is racism? How is the term white privilege NOT racist?
The truth is that you Dems are so fucking desperate for the black vote now you are willing to say anything or give anything to black people. You don't have to make sense any more. Racism is no longer a defining word it is a feeling that blacks can use to put down whites.
You Dems are so screwed in the head you are letting a guy on a psuedoanonymous hooker forum call a white guy racist even though he has no fucking clue how that white guy treats the other races.
What separates me from other white people is in my personal life I had and have more black people in it than you ever had or ever will, and I am beloved by those people, and I respect so many of them. That is why I have no fear taking on this so called "racist" bullshit.
And it is not just whites who are sick of this racist bullshit. The term black fatigue has taken over. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G74P-EoVUsA[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTKl_YO4T8[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=390eGvubRdk[/URL] and here is a literal example of a black man's life being improved by a white woman and white culture. This is literally what I was talking about. All the racists want to talk about is oppression.
And a black woman admits to being racist, LOL. OMG. How can that be? Call the NAACP ASAP! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XbnFxHDis[/URL]
Let's get something straight. Of all the shit you said that pissed me off, the worst was you work 10 X harder than people based on your race. And then, and this really kills me, then you say like you have it all figured out, "Yeah, I go for 6's and not 8's because of the experience. "
Do you know how many time I got ripped off, stood up, lied to, led on ETC to get where I was? With most men, a woman looks at them the wrong way and they are basket cases. Despite all the hardship, I had a short memory and kept going, and those arrows a lot of women shoot at your heart, they fucking hurt! You are living proof of that. You got treated like shit by the 8's who were lousy in bed, and you fucking quit! You didn't work 10 X harder. Hell, you didn't even keep looking to find 8's that were 8's in bed let alone 10's.
What pisses me off about you is you are so fucking cocky while being so fucking stupid. Let's start with the most stupid thing you said about money. You liken yourself to Warren Buffett and post that he is mostly in cash and treasury bills. Treasury bills are short term bonds. Do you fucking get that? The guy you are using to try to put me down is in bonds!
Then you ask, do you know what happens with bond prices when interest rates go up? I specify to Treasuries but you are so dense that you think that is all bonds. Do you know bonds work? They are IOUs with a percentage interest rate. Mortgages are IOUs and this may surprise you but investors buy mortgages, and there are basically two types when it comes to interest payments, variable and fixed rates.
With fixed rates, people pay the same rate every month in interest. And yes when there is inflation and interest rates go up, those bonds go down in value. However, if you buy variable interest rate bonds and interest rates go up, the mortgage holder has to pay more in interest and those bonds go UP in value when interest rates go up.
The point is you are so stupid that you thought because I bought bonds I had to be losing money, and you don't know that unless you know which bonds I have been buying.
And this nonsense about interest rate risk? Really? Bonds are typically issued in $1000 increments. So if a bond's price goes down from $1000 to $950, unless the issuer goes broke, when the bond matures, you get a $1000. Yes, there is some interest rate risk. There is also interest rate benefit as well, but the biggest risk to bond owners is default because you do not get back a $1000. You get a fraction of that or nothing. Bond price swings only matter to bond traders.
The reason I have not put Tooms and Spidy on ignore is they are great contrarian indicators. Take Spidy and his energy bullshit. Solar this. Wind that, and battery that. China is great. Here is the truth. From Doomberg: Judging by the recent press conference the Energy Institute held to accompany the release of the 2026 edition, the organization risks going the way of the International Energy Agency under Fatih Birol. Long on platitudes, short on neutrality, Institute leaders waxed profusely about renewable sources of electricity, the need to accelerate away from oil, gas, and coal, and how its data support all the right conclusions. Amazing progress is being made in the climate fight, but simultaneously, it is not nearly enough.
What do we learn? Hydrocarbons provided 86.24% of all global primary energy in 2025, down markedly from 86.65% the year prior. Won't be long now!
Another clue that the Energy Institute is drifting away from neutrality is the unmistakable greenwashing of China's energy policies. Objectively, Beijing is by far the world's naughtiest carbon sinner, accounting for 56% of worldwide coal consumption and 31% of all carbon emissions last year. By way of comparison, the US checks in at just 5% and 13%, respectively. Yet a simple keyword search for "China" in the summary report reveals these three early gems, a mere sampling of what is sprinkled throughout the report.
"China is deploying renewables at unprecedented scale while stockpiling fossil fuels as insurance. ".
"In absolute terms, the increase in US emissions was four times greater than that of China. "
"In China, coal consumption was flat year-on-year, as a result of slower demand for coking coal and a significant increase in solar generation. "
And now we go to you and Tooms on inflation, higher gas prices are all in the news. Inflation is coming. Rates will go up, and the USA will be going deeper and deeper into debt led by higher energy prices.
And what do the oil futures market say? Today the oil price is $85 a barrel and if you go out as far out as you can, the futures price is $55. See the link: [URL]https://oilprice.com/futures/wti/[/URL].
Energy and food, whose cost is hugely dependent on energy, are the most volatile components of the inflation basket. But have you heard anyone talking about how deflation is coming and what to do about it? The smartest people on energy in the world are betting one way while the public believes the opposite.
And that leads us to AI. You think Nvidia is going to the moon because people want the fastest chips. What people? What are they doing with them? And how are they making money off of them?
Let's be honest. You have no clue. The only reason you are really buying Nvidia is because you think it is going up. That is it.
My favorite part of the book Reminisces of a Stock Operator was a story about a guy named Old Turkey. The basic point of the story is that market sentiment is just as important when picking stocks as the individual names, and it has been a bull market. The street sentiment has been very positive.
Buffett does not have the luxury of his youth when he could pick and choose industries and companies. He is too big. He has to play the whole market, and his favorite indicator is total market valuation divided by GDP. With the dot com bubble, that percentage hit 140%. Historically, a ratio around 75%-90% is considered fair value, while levels exceeding 120% indicate an overvalued market. Today we are at 235%, and it does not take a genius to see why Buffett is in a huge cash position then.
Then you asked what is a momentum player? To paraphrase another Buffett slogan, if you do not know who the sucker is, you are it.
[QUOTE]Juan Jairo Coronilla Durn, a 28-year-old Mexican national, died on July 14, 2026, after being struck by a tractor-trailer in St. Augustine, Florida, while fleeing an encounter with ICE and Homeland Security Investigations agents. Advocacy group Colectivo rbol and Mexican officials confirmed that Durn was visiting the U.S. on a valid tourist visa and had already purchased a return flight to Mexico.
His death was the third fatality in a week involving ICE encounters, following the fatal shootings of Lorenzo Salgado Araujo in Texas and Joan Sebastian Guerrero in Maine. The incident prompted a nationwide pause on ICE traffic stops and sparked calls for a congressional investigation, while the Mexican government requested state attorneys general review the deaths for possible criminal prosecution.[/QUOTE]ICE is the Article 2 secret police directed by POTUS to kill as many minorities in the Dis United States America as possible in order to avoid deportation costs.
I am very fortunate I did not encounter the Uniformed Roving Kill Squads (Police) while visiting the Dis United States of America. White people get to live when they encounter the police. That is a very real privilege they enjoy that I don't.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075898]Typical Dem. There was all name calling and not one logical rebuttal. Not one. I am not sure how Trump even got into this but you are so filled to the gills with TDS he had to come up because in your warped mind anyone who voted for Trump is mentally inferior to you. Talk about prematurely judging groups.[/QUOTE]I already told you a long time ago. I'm not about to go around and around with you Repukeian Trumptards with your disingenuous, circular arguments and "reasoning". It's not simply a waste of time. It's a waste of life. In fact, I want back the time it took me to write this.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3075742][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySv494wxJs[/URL][/QUOTE]Worth a watch I thought. I don't know what it has to do with American Politics, but unlike some anal-rentive control freaks on ISG my world is not turned upside down by having it show up here.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3075934]ICE is the Article 2 secret police directed by POTUS to kill as many minorities in the Dis United States America as possible in order to avoid deportation costs.
I am very fortunate I did not encounter the Uniformed Roving Kill Squads (Police) while visiting the Dis United States of America. White people get to live when they encounter the police. That is a very real privilege they enjoy that I don't.[/QUOTE]ICE even killed a Caucasian type mother living, working in USA.
[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/money-printers-fueling-socialisms-rise[/URL]
Because crony capitalism is not serving my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of Ameirca.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076028]Because crony capitalism is not serving my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of Ameirca.[/QUOTE]Won't be feasible until we have had a fully functional robotics and AI industry for at least a generation to work out the kinks. At the absolute earliest, were 40 years away. Will be nice if it ever kicks in though. Robots and AI do all the work so cry babies like you can demand all the acres and mules you want all day long with out ever giving back to the country that gave you citizenship to the richest country on earth so you can play in candy land / Thailand all day. Funny, I never once ran into a man from Africa on my travels. I wonder why? Once in a while you could show just a tad of gratitude to the dis-united as you always put it LOL.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075295]Maybe one of these days ...
And as usual, you are all orgasmic at the latest Chinese propaganda announcement and you once again miss the key point: Sodium-ion batteries store less energy by weight or volume, which means that you need bigger batteries to store the same amount of energy compared to lithium batteries. This limits their appeal for mobile devices and electric vehicles where manufacturers are inclined toward lightweight solutions.
So yeah, maybe sodium batteries have a place over Lithium with regards to batteries that do not need to be moved, but if they have to be moved around in something like an EV, they are inferior to Lithium. That is just physics. [/QUOTE]Clueless as usual! But I implore you, to take a moment and use any one of Tiny 12's, list of ChapGOP AI sites, and re-check your out dated assumptions, on sodium-ion batteries for stationary or mobile applications.
If you recall, in a recent post, FAW (FAW Jiefang, China) just recently completed a successful 15,000 km, seven-month real-world test of a heavy-duty semi-truck [B]powered by a 339 kWh [u]sodium-ion battery pack[/u][/B] developed with HiNa Battery Technology [URL]https://battery-tech.net/battery-markets-news/faw-jiefang-completes-15000-km-sodium-ion-heavy-truck-trial/[/URL].
[B]Meanwhile,[/B] back in the USA Trucking bankruptcies soar due to the illegal US / Israel war against Iran. Cost of diesel, dropped shipments, banks cringe at loan defaults, asset depreciation, credit tightening leading to higher interest rates, brand new ICE / diesel truck assets get 50% depreciation after 9 to 12-months (signalling much faster depreciation rate), pundits are saying used trucks practically have no value out there, chameleon carriers (FMCSA or DOT has Trump gutting trucking safety rules, truck and car mechanics are quitting everywhere and electric trucks are eating diesel trucking lunches, as more economical in this era of MAGA Fuhrer high diesel prices.
[NOPARSE]Dude, yes, your MAGA Fuhrer is killing the U.S. trucking industry and these bankruptcies aren't fictitious, like your idiotic and ludicrous RED LOBSTER bankruptcy theories.
So Elvis 2008, riddle me this, if your so called power deficiency assumptions on sodium-ion batteries are correct...why are sodium-ion battery in trucks, completing successful 15,000 km real world tests and look posed for deployment in [/NOPARSE]China?
2026 the Year of the Battery.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3076117]So Elvis 2008, riddle me this, if your so called power deficiency assumptions on sodium-ion batteries are correct...why are sodium-ion battery in trucks, completing successful 15,000 km real world tests and look posed for deployment in China?
2026 the Year of the Battery.[/QUOTE]It is because Elvis 2008 thinks that the batteries are socialists.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076028]Because crony capitalism is not serving my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of Ameirca.[/QUOTE][B]Even Jamie Dimon knows![/B]
Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase, stated that the USA Has "left the lower-income folks behind," a sentiment he says fuels growing "anti-rich" resentment among working-class Americans. He attributed this inequality to decades of ineffective public policies from both political parties that failed to support struggling rural and inner-city communities, resulting in failing schools, high crime, and limited job opportunities.
Dimon acknowledged that while standards of living have improved since the 1960's, the wealth gap remains stark, with the bottom 50% of households holding only $4. 27 trillion of the nation's $174 trillion in wealth, compared to $25.07 trillion held by the top 0. 1%. He described it as "kind of annoying" for average citizens to watch the ultra-wealthy become "unbelievably wealthy" while others face generational poverty, though he argued that blaming the rich is not the solution. Instead, Dimon called for better public policy and initiatives like JPMorgan's "Vital Institutions" program to boost economic mobility and equal opportunity without increasing the deficit.
[URL]https://fortune.com/2026/07/15/jamie-dimon-understand-why-anti-rich-sentiment-poor-areas/[/URL]
Petrol exploding again because of Trump war, no peace. And Trump also threatening Canada, he really behave like dog after postman.
MAGA-style!
[URL]https://youtu.be/iZ5IK65HxdI?is=JINfUP9f30pwU82l[/URL]
Let's talk Bonds.
Bonds are for people who have already made money and are simply looking to collect rent and preserve their capital. Let's say I want to generate 10,000 a month income in order to retire to Thailand, because I am a ungrateful crybaby who has given nothing back to my fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America. That would make me a Rich, Racist Republican.
[U]Generating $10,000 per month (or $120,000 per year) in income using only US Treasury bonds[/U] requires a principal investment of approximately $2. 53 million to $2. 54 million, depending on the bond yield. Based on recent rates cited in March 2025, where 20-year T-bonds offered 4. 750% and 30-year T-bonds offered 4. 625%, the required capital is calculated as follows:
At 4.750% yield: You need $2,526,316 invested to generate $120,000 annually.
At 4.625% yield: You need $2,594,595 invested to generate $120,000 annually.
[U]Key Considerations[/U]
[B]Principal Preservation[/B]: This calculation assumes you hold the bonds to maturity and receive the full face value back, meaning your initial investment remains intact while providing the monthly interest payments.
[B]Rate Volatility[/B]: Interest rates fluctuate. The figures above are based on specific recent auctions; current market rates may be higher or lower, altering the exact principal required.
[B]Tax Implications[/B]: Interest from US Treasury bonds is exempt from state and local income taxes but is subject to federal income tax, which would reduce your net monthly income.
[B]Inflation Risk[/B]: Fixed-rate bonds do not adjust for inflation, so the purchasing power of your $10,000 monthly income may decrease over time unless you invest in Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS), which typically offer lower nominal yields.
So, if as others have stated I have a income of over 100,000 USD a year, Am I a Rich Racist Republican or am a [B]Strong but Poor Black Man[/B]!
It is not possible to generate $10,000 USD per month solely from US bonds with a standard portfolio. According to financial analysis for 2026, you would need a principal investment of $12 million or more to achieve this level of income through bonds alone.
[B]Viability[/B]: Bonds are recommended as a portfolio foundation rather than a sole income source for high monthly payouts.
[B]Scale[/B]: Generating $120,000 annually (the equivalent of $10 k / month) requires a capital base that exceeds typical individual savings, making this strategy impractical for most investors.
[B]Alternatives[/B]: Investors typically use a bond ladder strategy to create predictable income, but this requires substantial upfront capital to match high monthly cash flow needs.
[B]Keep in mind that there are individuals out there who say I am not financially savvy.[/B]
[U]10-Year Treasury Note[/U]
The yield on the 10-year Treasury note is 4.71%, reflecting a slight increase of 0.01 percentage points from the previous session. This marks the highest level seen in the past year. Over the last month, the yield has risen by approximately 0.31 percentage points.
[U]20-Year Treasury Bond[/U]
The 20-year Treasury bond yield stands at 5.17%, continuing an upward trend observed over recent weeks. This rate is part of a broader increase in long-term yields amid shifting market expectations.
[U]30-Year Treasury Bond[/U]
The 30-year Treasury bond yield is currently 5.17%, showing stability compared to recent sessions. Like the 20-year bond, it reflects investor sentiment around long-term inflation and growth forecasts.
"The Democratic Socialists of America's (DSA) 2025–2026 platform, titled "Workers Deserve More", is a sweeping political program that calls for a democratic socialist transformation of the USA Economy, society, and government Yahoo+1.
"Core Principles.
DSA frames its mission as a "democratic road to socialism", aiming to replace capitalist control with working-class democracy. It rejects what it calls "authoritarian visions of socialism" and emphasizes democratic political activity over one-party rule Yahoo.
Key Policy Proposals.
The platform is organized into four main pillars Townhall+1:
1. Thriving Working-Class Communities.
Medicare for All: Universal healthcare with no premiums, co-pays, or deductibles.
Housing for All: Universal rent control.
College for All: Free public higher education and cancellation of all student loan debt.
Paid Family Leave & Childcare: Expansive paid family leave and free public childcare / pre-K.
2. An Economy for the Working Class.
Green New Deal: Massive public investment to phase out fossil fuels and transition to a green, sustainable economy.
Public Ownership: Control of major transportation, energy infrastructure, and natural resources by the public.
Wealth Tax: Tax on the richest earners, large inheritances, and private colleges.
32-Hour Work Week: No pay cut or benefit loss.
3. Working-Class Foreign Policy.
Free Palestine: Immediate and permanent ceasefire in Gaza, end to USA Military / aid to Israel, respect for ICC / ICJ, and Palestinian sovereignty.
Freedom of Movement: End restrictive immigration controls and allow free labor migration.
4. Working-Class Democracy.
Abolish the Senate and replace the executive and judicial branches with bodies subordinate to Congress.
Defund the Department of War, close overseas bases, and end all economic sanctions.
Amnesty for Immigrants: Full amnesty for those in the USA Illegally.
Abolish ICE, Prisons, and the Supreme Court.
New Constitution: Based on a single federal legislature.
Public Financing: Full public funding for campaigns and abolition of the Electoral College."
Cane: do you really support this insanity?
[B]Medicare for All[/B]: Universal healthcare with no premiums, co-pays, or deductibles.
[B]Green New Deal[/B]: Massive public investment to phase out fossil fuels and transition to a green, sustainable economy. Nuclear as the base input to the grid: 40%.
[B]Immigration needs to be dealt with[/B] There should be a Visa that allows for workers to come to the Dis United States of America. If they make enough contribution to the country they should be given a path to citizenship.
[B]Abolish ICE[/B]: Not a bad idea. The street enforcement arm of ICE is poorly trained. My guess is that starts with recruitment as they are not getting the best candidates.
[B]New Constitution[/B]: We could use a few amendments to the United States Constitution. After all doesn't Trump want a 51st State?
[B]TSA under Trump sucks so bad that three airports are going with private security[/B]
The TSA Gold+ program is a new voluntary public-private partnership that allows airports to replace federal TSA agents with private security contractors for passenger screening and equipment management, while the TSA retains federal oversight.
Three airports are the first to opt into this model:
Tampa International Airport (launching May 2027).
Des Moines International Airport (launching January 2027).
Charleston International Airport (launching February 2027).
[U]Key aspects of the initiative include[/U]:
[B]Operational Changes:[/B] Private firms will handle both the screening workforce and the checkpoint technology, a shift from the existing Screening Partnership Program (SPP) where the TSA manages equipment.
[B]Rationale[/B]: Airports cite the need to avoid disruptions during federal government shutdowns and to accelerate the deployment of advanced screening technology.
[B]Opposition[/B]: The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) union strongly opposes the move, arguing it threatens public safety, undermines federal workers, and could lead to job cuts.
[B]Passenger Experience[/B]: Travelers will undergo the same security standards, and existing programs like TSA PreCheck will remain available.
[B]I hope at least one TSA agent who voted for the current head of the Article 2 branch loses their job![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076199][b]Can batteries be socialists? [/b]
It is because Elvis 2008 thinks that the batteries are socialists.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B][/QUOTE]LOL! [I]...BTW, "What do you call a battery, that claims to be a Republican capitalist, but secretly steals and stores all the energy for itself?" [/I].
[B]Answer: [/B] [NOPARSE]Lithium "MAGA Fuhrer-ion" Phosphate (LMFP) battery!
2026 The Year of the Battery[/NOPARSE].
[QUOTE=Spidy;3076393]LOL! [I]...BTW, "What do you call a battery, that claims to be a Republican capitalist, but secretly steals and stores all the energy for itself?" [/I].
[B]Answer: [/B]Lithium "MAGA Fuhrer-ion" Phosphate (LMFP) battery!
2026 The Year of the Battery[/QUOTE][B]I love it![/B]
All kidding aside that is exactly how the RRR (Rich Racist Republicans) work. Let's take inflation for example: Inflation steals from the people who can least afford it. It is a design of the fiat currency system to rob the poor (such as myself) of their time, work energy and value in order to enrich themselves.
[B]The natural state of a free market is deflation.[/B]
Inflation is NOT going down this year. With energy costs going up (Brent Crude Spot to 135) the oil shock pass through to the economy will not be felt until after the midterms elections. That is exactly how the Rich Racist Republicans planned it. Win, lose are draw, they win. Those of us who are [U]poor[/U] lose.
[B]Gentlemen do not place your bets.[/B] I'm not taking any. Call me out next year. Right here in the [B]American Politics [/B]. If I am still breathing (that is I have not been gunned down by ICE in the streets of the Dis United States of America) I will stand and take my grade.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3076280]Petrol exploding again because of Trump war, no peace. And Trump also threatening Canada, he really behave like dog after postman.[/QUOTE]You certainly have a way with the English Language my brother!
[QUOTE](War, huh) Yeah, (What is it good for?) Absolutely nothin',
(War, huh) Yeah, (What is it good for?) Absolutely nothin'; Say it again, y'all;
(War, huh) Huh, lookout(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothin'
Listen to me- [B]Edwin Star[/B][/QUOTE]The war has lead to the deaths of [B]18 U.S. service members[/B].
(a moment of silence for my fellow citizens who have given so much for their country).
The Department of War said that 100 service members had been injurred since July 7 and 96% have returned to duty.
[QUOTE]War, I despise;
'Cause it means destruction of innocent lives.
War means tears to thousands of mothers' eyes.
When their sons (and daughters) go out to fight and lose their lives.[/QUOTE]Currently I do not see the purpose of this war. I do not see it being fought in a effective manner. It is Vietnam all over again.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076438]You certainly have a way with the English Language my brother!
The war has lead to the deaths of [B]18 U.S. service members[/B].
(a moment of silence for my fellow citizens who have given so much for their country).
The Department of War said that 100 service members had been injurred since July 7 and 96% have returned to duty.
Currently I do not see the purpose of this war. I do not see it being fought in a effective manner. It is Vietnam all over again.[/QUOTE]I learned English at school more than 40 years ago. Trump craziness and war impact my job and money when paying gas and I hate to pay for a crazy senile who think he is king of the world, maybe for his fanatics, but not clever, but rather ignorant for me. And he is putting big shame on USA.
No peace, but Trump war is creating fire in Gulf and now not only Ormuz. Big problem is Trump is just a ignorant guy, not clever.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076390][B]TSA under Trump sucks so bad that three airports are going with private security[/B]
The TSA Gold+ program is a new voluntary public-private partnership that allows airports to replace federal TSA agents with private security contractors for passenger screening and equipment management, while the TSA retains federal oversight.
Three airports are the first to opt into this model:
Tampa International Airport (launching May 2027).
Des Moines International Airport (launching January 2027).
Charleston International Airport (launching February 2027).
[U]Key aspects of the initiative include[/U]:
[B]Operational Changes:[/B] Private firms will handle both the screening workforce and the checkpoint technology, a shift from the existing Screening Partnership Program (SPP) where the TSA manages equipment.
[B]Rationale[/B]: Airports cite the need to avoid disruptions during federal government shutdowns and to accelerate the deployment of advanced screening technology.[/QUOTE]It is Trumps plan to privatize TSA. Thanks for your support.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3076347]"The Democratic Socialists of America's (DSA) 20252026 platform, titled "Workers Deserve More", is a sweeping political program that calls for a democratic socialist transformation of the USA Economy, society, and government Yahoo+1.
"Core Principles.
DSA frames its mission as a "democratic road to socialism", aiming to replace capitalist control with working-class democracy. It rejects what it calls "authoritarian visions of socialism" and emphasizes democratic political activity over one-party rule Yahoo.
Key Policy Proposals.
The platform is organized into four main pillars Townhall+1:
1. Thriving Working-Class Communities.
Medicare for All: Universal healthcare with no premiums, co-pays, or deductibles.
Housing for All: Universal rent control.
College for All: Free public higher education and cancellation of all student loan debt..[/QUOTE]Only a communist would support this insanity.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076028]Because crony capitalism is not serving my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of Ameirca.[/QUOTE]If you don't like capitalism you have the option to move to any communist country of your choice. Go live in one of these communist countries for a few years and see how good communism serves you.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075908]Let's get something straight. Of all the shit you said that pissed me off, the worst was you work 10 X harder than people based on your race. And then, and this really kills me, then you say like you have it all figured out, "Yeah, I go for 6's and not 8's because of the experience. "
Do you know how many time I got ripped off, stood up, lied to, led on ETC to get where I was? With most men, a woman looks at them the wrong way and they are basket cases. Despite all the hardship, I had a short memory and kept going, and those arrows a lot of women shoot at your heart, they fucking hurt! You are living proof of that. You got treated like shit by the 8's who were lousy in bed, and you fucking quit! You didn't work 10 X harder. Hell, you didn't even keep looking to find 8's that were 8's in bed let alone 10's.
What pisses me off about you is you are so fucking cocky while being so fucking stupid. Let's start with the most stupid thing you said about money. You liken yourself to Warren Buffett and post that he is mostly in cash and treasury bills. Treasury bills are short term bonds. Do you fucking get that? The guy you are using to try to put me down is in bonds!.[/QUOTE]If you are buying Nvidia today you have already missed most of the big upside when it went up 1000%. It is still a decent buy but there are far better things to buy in the market today with far more upside.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076388][B]Medicare for All[/B]: Universal healthcare with no premiums, co-pays, or deductibles.
[B]Green New Deal[/B]: Massive public investment to phase out fossil fuels and transition to a green, sustainable economy. Nuclear as the base input to the grid: 40%.
[B]Immigration needs to be dealt with[/B] There should be a Visa that allows for workers to come to the Dis United States of America. If they make enough contribution to the country they should be given a path to citizenship.
[B]Abolish ICE[/B]: Not a bad idea. The street enforcement arm of ICE is poorly trained. My guess is that starts with recruitment as they are not getting the best candidates.
[B]New Constitution[/B]: We could use a few amendments to the United States Constitution. After all doesn't Trump want a 51st State?[/QUOTE]You can't fix stupid.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3075802]Real facts are he started new wars versus Iran, Venezuela and threaten everybody, making big shame on USA. Except for criminal Netanyahou, he is the worst ever president of USA for our world safety and planet health. I really can't understand how Americans could re elect him, when he was well known and after Capitol attack, just crazy.[/QUOTE]Please explain to me about the war that is going on in. Venezuela now. Who is Venezuela fighting with today? The people seem slot happier now and the country is making money again.
[B]So, the Dis United States of America has decided to give Saudi Arabia nuclear weapons[/B]
They must be looking for a ally to counter Israel.
Japan needs nuclear weapons more than Saudi Arabia. In fact Japan needs to amend their constitution and take off the gloves. They are the only other ally that has the ability to build independent military capabilities to counter China.
[B]Japan knows naval aviation![/B]
Saudi Arabia does not currently possess nuclear weapons, but it has formally committed to acquiring them if its regional rival, Iran, develops a nuclear arsenal.
In July 2026, the United States and Saudi Arabia signed a landmark 30-year civilian nuclear cooperation deal that allows the kingdom to enrich uranium domestically.
*While the agreement is designed for peaceful energy purposes, it has sparked significant concern among nonproliferation experts and lawmakers that this capability provides Saudi Arabia with the technological pathway to eventually produce nuclear weapons, potentially igniting a regional arms race.
This agreement is a formal acknowledgement by the Dis United States of America that their war objectives with Iran has failed.
What is Crony capitalism?
It is a pejorative term describing an economic system where business success depends on close relationships with state power rather than free market competition. In this system, individuals and businesses with political influence are favored through tax breaks, government grants, subsidies, and exclusive contracts, effectively suppressing open competition.
Wealth accumulation in crony capitalism occurs primarily through rent-seekingprofiting from monopolies or oligopolies granted by the staterather than through innovation, risk-taking, or value creation. This collusion between the business class and the political class distorts the economy, stifles entrepreneurship, and often leads to income inequality.
[B]You called me stupid. But you cannot read.[/B]
[QUOTE=Canada;3076532]If you don't like capitalism you have the option to move to any communist country of your choice. [b]Go live in one of these communist countries for a few years and see how good communism serves you[/b].[/QUOTE]Is this your suggestion for Jamie Dimon also?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076246][B]Even Jamie Dimon knows![/B]
Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase, stated that the USA Has "left the lower-income folks behind," a sentiment he says fuels growing "anti-rich" resentment among working-class Americans. He attributed this inequality to decades of ineffective public policies from both political parties that failed to support struggling rural and inner-city communities, resulting in failing schools, high crime, and limited job opportunities.
Dimon acknowledged that while standards of living have improved since the 1960's, the wealth gap remains stark, with the bottom 50% of households holding only $4. 27 trillion of the nation's $174 trillion in wealth, compared to $25.07 trillion held by the top 0. 1%. He described it as "kind of annoying" for average citizens to watch the ultra-wealthy become "unbelievably wealthy" while others face generational poverty, though he argued that blaming the rich is not the solution. Instead, Dimon called for better public policy and initiatives like JPMorgan's "Vital Institutions" program to boost economic mobility and equal opportunity without increasing the deficit.
[URL]https://fortune.com/2026/07/15/jamie-dimon-understand-why-anti-rich-sentiment-poor-areas/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canada;3076551]You can't fix stupid.[/QUOTE]You cannot fix the public policies of the Rich Racist Republicans that take advantage of [B]the poor (like me)[/B] either. So I guess their ideas must be stupid.
Are you a member of the Republican Party [I]Canada[/I]?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076608]You cannot fix the public policies of the Rich Racist Republicans that take advantage of [B]the poor (like me)[/B] either. So I guess their ideas must be stupid.
Are you a member of the Republican Party [I]Canada[/I]?[/QUOTE]I am Canadian living in USA and I not part of the Republican Party. I am just smart enough to have common sense and can see the difference between Republicans and the stupid democrats / communist party. I believe in enforced borders in every country. I believe men should not play in women's sports. I don't believe we need tampons in men's bathrooms. I believe that illegals should not get welfare or be able to vote in any country. I know capitalism is better than communism as I have worked in several communist countries and have seen the disastrous results. I live in USA so I can get decent health care and not be stuck with the sub par care you get in Canada. If you think these ideas are stupid then you are probably a socialist or communist. Just a fact!
As more MAGA, bloviate on socialism, it is oh so hilariously funny, how they conveniently voted for a grifting, corrupt, racist, deranged sociopath who time-and-time again cares nothing for hardworking Americas, as he, his ugly grifting family and crony billionaires, bleed the country dry.
Whether it's the latest, tax audit immunity & slush fund, White House intervention for a Trump Jr. , Firm, huge crypto windfalls, corrupt use of regulatory agencies or the administration benefiting Trump Jr. 's business, it clear to America's who aren't blinded by a corrupt MAGA admin 2.0, with a racist, inequality and war mongering ideology, [I]simply sees the illegal theft of the public coffers and the public trust of the WH, as what?[b]...just a "MAGA socialist" piggyback for the MAGA Fuhrer[/b][/I]
More to the point, with this much corruption, I think it's just beginning to look more like communist America, under the MAGA Fuhrer.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076608]You cannot fix the public policies of the Rich Racist Republicans that take advantage of [B]the poor (like me)[/B] either. So I guess their ideas must be stupid.
Are you a member of the Republican Party [I]Canada[/I]?[/QUOTE]Arithmetic talk: which percentage of Americans are happy about Trump = less than 40 %. Are USA a democracy? When Trump is trying to fuck midterms, like he fucks Americans and even his fanatics. War man, not able for peace, when too aggressive.
[QUOTE=Canada;3076553]Please explain to me about the war that is going on in. Venezuela now. Who is Venezuela fighting with today? The people seem slot happier now and the country is making money again.[/QUOTE]Didn't Trump attack Venezuela? Only to rob petrol, when he doesn't care what happen in Venezuela. He also tried to rob Ukraine. When he couldn't, he stopped to help them, when they give now lessons to US army about drones.
[QUOTE=Canada;3076553]Please explain to me about the war that is going on in. Venezuela now. Who is Venezuela fighting with today? The people seem slot happier now and the country is making money again.[/QUOTE]Trump and Rubio improved nothing for the people of Venezuela. Their lives are no better and arguably worse since Trump's intervention. The only thing that interrupted their lives continuing to get worse and worse thanks to Trump was the earthquakes that made their lives worse for other reasons:
[B]Trump, Rubio and a Zombie State In Venezuela.
July 20, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/article/2026/07/20/trump-rubio-rodriguez-earthquake-venezuela/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Then, abruptly, on Jan. 3, the Trump Administration dispatched special forces to attack military targets, seize Venezuelas most heavily guarded fortification, and extract Maduro and his wife. Most Venezuelans, who had watched Maduro steal the election he lost in 2024 and then crush the popular backlash that followed, peered through the smoke and realized that Washington had left the architecture of the dictatorship entirely intact. Venezuelans did not celebrate the tyrants capture. Nor did anyone protest the violation of national sovereignty.
............
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has insisted that the Trump Administrations design is to stabilize Venezuela, revive its economy, and eventually shepherd it back toward democracy. So far, the results look rather different. In practice, the Rodriguez government has moved quickly to improve conditions for foreign corporations and has acquiesced to an arrangement in which the U.S. markets Venezuelan oil globally, and then remits Caracas share to our national treasure.[/QUOTE]Trump touched it. Everybody knows the Immutable Law of the Universe for what happens to it next.
Trump can't even count to 3 without fucking it up. Or maybe he just lied about the difference between 3 and 4 in that simple sentence out of habit.
1. There is not a single member from the Communist Party that has been elected to the Congress of the Dis United States of America.
2. The Dis United States of America needs workers to do the work my fellow citizens do not. A strong, but fair immigration policy is needed. Immigration is what has made the Dis United States the Country that it is. Arnold Schwarzenegger, 38th governor of the great state of California from 2003 to 2011 was a immigrant. He was a Rich Republican. But he was not a racist.
3. I believe men should not play in girls sports. But is not a significant issue for me. There are many more important problems that face my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of America.
4. I could care less about bathroom politics. There is a kinetic war ongoing. Much more important.
5. Illegals have a loophole to get welfare benefits. The Rich Racist Republicans control Congress and the Presidency. They could close the loophole if they choose.
6. Illegals do not have the right to vote in the the Dis United States of America.
7. Crony Capitalism does not serve my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of America. I am suggesting a true free market. A corporation is not a person. But that is the current law.
8. As of 2026, approximately 27 to 30 million Americans lack health insurance, representing an 8% to 8. 5% uninsured rate. Shame on the Rich Republicans who have failed to address this issue.
Where you choose to live does not make you smart. Your political views do not make you smart. Even making a lot of money does not make you smart. It is the decisions that you make throughout your life that make you smart. Decisions that allow you to live your life as you choose. Based on that definition I am smart. It does not matter what anyone else thinks. Only I need to live my life. Those who call me stupid or not very smart because they disagree with my political views are immature individuals that never advanced emotionally from the school yard playground.
[QUOTE=Canada;3076720]I am Canadian living in USA and I not part of the Republican Party. I am just smart enough to have common sense and can see the difference between Republicans and the stupid democrats / communist party. I believe in enforced borders in every country. I believe men should not play in women's sports. I don't believe we need tampons in men's bathrooms. I believe that illegals should not get welfare or be able to vote in any country. I know capitalism is better than communism as I have worked in several communist countries and have seen the disastrous results. I live in USA so I can get decent health care and not be stuck with the sub par care you get in Canada. If you think these ideas are stupid then you are probably a socialist or communist. Just a fact![/QUOTE]Trump and his goons at ICE have problems with taking non=Americans like yourself and sending them elsewhere. This is the new standard in case you haven't noticed. You may very well find yourself on the continent of Africa in the nation of Eswatini.
"The federal government is now suspending Medicaid funding in Minnesota and California. If you get sick in Minneapolis or Los Angeles, the money will not be there.
Why is this happening?
The Trump administration believes both states are allowing massive fraud to take place. Federal dollars are being stolen, and local authorities are not doing anything about it.
Last week, Robert Kennedy Junior, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, said: "We have reason to believe that money is being misused; we have a duty to stop the payments. ".
Sounds reasonable.
Here are the facts: Prosecutors believe bad actors in Minnesota stole at least $9 billion from the taxpayers. A similar situation is happening in California.
At least eighty individuals now face federal charges. But state officials, under Governor Tim Walz and radical Attorney General Keith Ellison, refuse to act.
The truth is this: Far-left leadership enables this kind of fraud, and progressive politicians won't do anything about it."
So why the Democrat politicians allowing this to go on? Because a portion of this stolen money ends up in the hands of corrupt left-wing NGO's who then turn around and kick back part of their stolen money back into Democratic campaign coffers.
The merry-go-round goes 'round and 'round.
The children laughed and laughed and laughed.
So many were going 'round and 'round.
That the merry-go-round collapsed.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3076928]Trump and his goons at ICE have problems with taking non=Americans like yourself and sending them elsewhere. This is the new standard in case you haven't noticed. You may very well find yourself on the continent of Africa in the nation of Eswatini.[/QUOTE]Trump has no problem if you enter the country legally. It is only the people who come in illegally that Trump has a problem with.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3076980]"The federal government is now suspending Medicaid funding in Minnesota and California. If you get sick in Minneapolis or Los Angeles, the money will not be there.
Why is this happening?
The Trump administration believes both states are allowing massive fraud to take place. Federal dollars are being stolen, and local authorities are not doing anything about it.
Last week, Robert Kennedy Junior, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, said: "We have reason to believe that money is being misused; we have a duty to stop the payments. ".
Sounds reasonable.
Here are the facts: Prosecutors believe bad actors in Minnesota stole at least $9 billion from the taxpayers. A similar situation is happening in California.
At least eighty individuals now face federal charges. But state officials, under Governor Tim Walz and radical Attorney General Keith Ellison, refuse to act.
The truth is this: Far-left leadership enables this kind of fraud, and progressive politicians won't do anything about it."
So why the Democrat politicians allowing this to go on? Because a portion of this stolen money ends up in the hands of corrupt left-wing NGO's who then turn around and kick back part of their stolen money back into Democratic campaign coffers.
The merry-go-round goes 'round and 'round.
The children laughed and laughed and laughed.
So many were going 'round and 'round.
That the merry-go-round collapsed.[/QUOTE]And you thought that non existent "350 foot slit" in the Reflecting Pool claim was embarrassing! LOL.
[B]US pauses $1 billion in Medicaid payments to California, Minnesota.
July 21, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us-health-secretary-kennedy-says-cms-is-pausing-medicaid-payments-california-2026-07-21/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The deferrals are pauses, not permanent cuts, and do not affect benefits or eligibility. States recover the funds by showing claims meet federal requirements; Minnesota has already returned documents that CMS is reviewing, Oz said.[/QUOTE]It's another colossal Trumpian waste of taxpayers money on ridiculous legal wrangling that will very likely get laughed out of court or a panel of normal intelligence adults or whoever will be burdened with spending so much as an hour looking at it.
But it keeps the lamebrained MAGAs busy whacking off at the thought of Trump getting something, anything done other than finishing off another bucket of KFC. So Trump can't stop himself from doing it.
[QUOTE=Canada;3077018]Trump has no problem if you enter the country legally. It is only the people who come in illegally that Trump has a problem with.[/QUOTE]Does being born in America count as coming into America legally? How about those who have full legal documentation and authorization for being in America?
[QUOTE][b]Ice killed American citizens and others legally in the USA[/b]
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations have resulted in the fatal shootings of U.S. citizens and legally authorized individuals, including Renee Nicole Good, Alex Pretti, and Ruben Ray Martinez. These incidents have sparked intense national scrutiny and legal battles over federal accountability and enforcement tactics.
Notable Incidents and Victims
Renee Nicole Good: A 37-year-old U.S. citizen and mother shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis in January 2026 during enforcement operation protests.
Alex Pretti: A 37-year-old U.S. citizen and intensive care nurse killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis in January 2026.
Ruben Ray Martinez: A U.S. citizen shot and killed by an ICE Homeland Security Investigations agent in Texas in March 2025, with details emerging later through public records requests.
Authorized Workers and Immigrants:
Additional fatal operationssuch as the shooting of a Colombian national with legal work authorization in Maine and Mexican nationals like Lorenzo Salgado Araujo in Houstonhave drawn sharp protests and diplomatic complaints.
Investigations and Policy ResponsesFederal Justifications: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and federal authorities have frequently defended specific actions as self-defense or responses to suspects using vehicles as weapons.Local Conflict: Exclusive federal jurisdiction claims have frequently blocked local and state law enforcement from immediately gathering evidence or investigating these fatalities.Tactical Reversals: Public outcry and legal pressure have forced announcements from ICE regarding modified traffic stop tactics and plans to equip arrest teams with body-worn cameras.If you'd like, I can provide more details on:The specific civil rights lawsuits filed against DHS and ICEThe policy changes regarding vehicle stops and body camerasOfficial statements from foreign embassies regarding affected nationalsLet me know what you would like to explore further.ICE expansion has outpaced accountability. What are the remedies?Jan 26, 2569 BE On January 7, 2026, an ICE agent killed an American citizen. Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother living in Minneapolis, was shot to death in her vehicle by ...BrookingsNine deaths tied to Trumps immigration enforcement operations in USJul 13, 2569 BE An ICE officer shot dead Renee Good, a US citizen who local officials said was acting as a legal observer during protests against immigration raids, in Minneapo...Al JazeeraColombian national killed by ICE agent during operation in MaineJul 14, 2569 BE "That's what this investigation is all about and I certainly intend to stay after it to do everything I can to be sure the investigation is as transparent and t...BBCWhat to know about the fatal shooting of Lorenzo Salgado Araujo by ...Jul 10, 2569 BE What to know about the fatal shooting of Lorenzo Salgado Araujo by ICE * The shooting happened on a Houston street. Few photos or videos surrounding the shootin...PBSAt Least 23 People Have Been Shot at by Federal Immigration ...Jul 16, 2569 BE In February, revelations emerged that ICE agents had shot and killed a third U.S. citizen, Ruben Ray Martinez, in March 2025 during a traffic stop in Texas. And...The New York TimesICE shootings in Biddeford, Maine, and Houston spark outcry | CNNJul 14, 2569 BE What we covered today. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have been directed to halt most traffic stops after an ICE officer fatally shot a man in Bid...CNNHow We Fix Our Immigration CrisisJul 24, 2569 BE This month, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers killed another unarmed individual. Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, a 52-year-old father of three U.S. cit...American Immigration CouncilICE kills 26-year-old in Maine: What happened, and who else has ...Jul 14, 2569 BE ICE kills 26-year-old in Maine: What happened, and who else has ICE killed? More than 60 people have died in ICE shootings or while in detention since Donald Tr...Al JazeeraList of shootings by U.S. immigration agents in the second Trump ... - WikipediaAn ICE Homeland Security Investigations agent shot a U.S. citizen, Ruben Ray Martinez, stating he had rammed his car into another agent. Despite occurring in Ma...Wikipedia[/QUOTE]Maybe you can book a seat in the Big Beautiful Gold and Very Russia Russia Russia-looking Trump Ballroom when it opens "in about two weeks. " That's supposed to be the most effectively bullet and bomb proof room on the planet.
But watch out for Trump's masked, unidentified, armed goons with itchy trigger fingers. A bullet and bomb-proof building won't protect you from getting shot and killed by one of Trump's goons if both of you are sitting inside it.
This entire thread is full of opinions. Other than the founding documents of the Dis United States of America there are no facts just opinions. Rich Racist Republicans are NOT stupid. They are doing everything to further their own well being at the expense of the majority of my fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America. If someone thinks I a socialist, then they need to make the argument and prove it using the words I have posted here in this thread. If I have posted inaccurate information then post factual information that corrects what I have said.
[B]Just because you hold a certain political view does not make you right, me wrong, unintelligent or stupid.[/B] When a individual starts calling names it means they have lost the intellectual argument. Rich Racist Republicans think they are superior to everyone else. We can have a difference in opinion without them calling names like a wounded child in the school yard. If someone disagrees with my ideas, if they are intelligent then they should make the logical argument backing up their opinions. Also when facts are posted they should be backed up.
[QUOTE]The Trump administration is withholding more than $1 billion in Medicaid funding to California and Minnesota over what it deems suspect claims.
Tuesdays funding suspension is the latest action by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to target Medicaid funding in the two states. More than $2.5 billion has been deferred from them due to fraud concerns this year.
If it smells like fraud, we are not paying for it anymore, CMS Administrator Mehmet Oz said during a Tuesday event announcing the deferrals.
The agency is deferring $867 million in Medicaid funding to California and $199 million to Minnesota for claims the states spent in the previous quarter. Oz said the money could be unlocked, but only if the states can prove it was used for legitimate services.
The funding targeted Tuesday is linked to services at high risk for fraud, such as personal care services delivered in the home, Oz added.
In Minnesota, Oz said, some of the deferred funding was linked to more than 3,000 providers who were disenrolled from Medicaid after a state audit.
This raises questions about the claims tied to the providers before they were removed, said Oz, noting that the majority of the $199 million in question was linked to the disenrolled providers.
However, providers in the state charge that some of the terminations were made in error. The state is enabling providers to continue to bill for Medicaid services while they appeal.
This is the third time the administration has suspended funding in Minnesota, with previous actions totaling $351 million in Medicaid dollars. Vice President JD Vance has said the state can rely on its rainy day fund to make up the difference while it proves the claims are legitimate.
However, Governor Tim Walz, a Democrat, says Minnesota is being politically targeted.
The Trump Administration is cutting more money in healthcare than theyve prosecuted for fraud. The math doesnt add up, Walz told POLITICO in a statement. Theyre not punishing fraudsters, theyre punishing children, seniors, working families, and people with disabilities.
The states Department of Human Services, which manages Medicaid, is also concerned about a lack of transparency into the deferrals.
CMS touts their new fraud-detection capabilities, yet has not provided data or explanation on how the deferral amount was calculated or what it was based on, said Commissioner John Connolly in a statement.
Its the second time the administration has deferred Californias funding, with a previous deferral resulting in more than $1 billion in suspended funds. The latest deferral focuses on Californias claims for in-home care programs, where CMS said spending growth has outpaced national trends.
Todays announcement from Dr. Oz is the same recycled political stunt weve seen before, the press office for California Gov. Gavin Newsom wrote on the social media site X on Tuesday.
We are being targeted for political reasons and because Dr. Oz doesnt understand that we are *SAVING* taxpayers money by keeping seniors and people with disabilities out of far more expensive nursing homes!
Money from previous deferrals remains frozen while the states work with CMS, said Dan Brillman, director of Medicaid and the Childrens Health Insurance Program, during the press conference.
We hope to return funds as soon as they submit the documentation, but those are still ongoing, he said.
Tuesdays actions are the latest development in a nationwide crackdown by the Trump administration, which has homed in on fraud as a priority ahead of the 2026 midterms.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/21/cms-suspends-medicaid-dollars-to-minnesota-california-over-fraud-01006397[/URL]
In my opinion, this is a mafia like gangster move by the the Article 2 leader of the Dis United States of America. Pretty much par for the course. I don't like you so I am going to use my office to hurt you. You disagree with me so I am going to use the full powers of my office to hurt you. You are not going to vote for me so I am going use the full power of my office to nullify your vote.
[B]Check ball![/B]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077037]Does being born in America count as coming into America legally? How about those who have full legal documentation and authorization for being in America?
Maybe you can book a seat in the Big Beautiful Gold and Very Russia Russia Russia-looking Trump Ballroom when it opens "in about two weeks. " That's supposed to be the most effectively bullet and bomb proof room on the planet.
But watch out for Trump's masked, unidentified, armed goons with itchy trigger fingers. A bullet and bomb-proof building won't protect you from getting shot and killed by one of Trump's goons if both of you are sitting inside it.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVOIvcTL_mU[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;3077018]Trump has no problem if you enter the country legally. It is only the people who come in illegally that Trump has a problem with.[/QUOTE]Ever had an encounter with ICE? Didn't think so? Don't fuck around and find out!
In January 2026, Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother, was shot in her vehicle by ICE agent Jonathan Ross in Minneapolis; her death was ruled a homicide by the county medical examiner.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/28/deaths-ice-2026-[/URL]
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3077086][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVOIvcTL_mU[/URL][/QUOTE]No, death is too easy for this bastard. But he should be shunned for the rest of his miserable life and his legacy news media defenders ABCNBCCBS should lose their broadcast licenses or clean house. They have already lost all their credibility and viewership. And Nobody watches CNN or MSwhatever & the NY Times and Washington Post have self-destructed as well. Good riddance.
But thanks to Biden's last minute pardon, Fauci can't be held legally responsible for the crimes he committed before and during Covid unless he lies before Congress under oath. So, I expect to hear a lot of "I can't remember" BS coming out of his mouth today. You can bet he has rehearsed his lines many times over, but it will be interesting to see if Demorats still try to shield him.
Fauci invokes the 5th. He will still be flogged by rightly so the Republicans and it remains to be seen if the Demorats still defend him.
[QUOTE=Canada;3077018]Trump has no problem if you enter the country legally. It is only the people who come in illegally that Trump has a problem with.[/QUOTE]Yes, when as white as him, I would have no problem in USA, but Trump is racist, like Musk, reason why I can t understand how black, Latins or Muslims can vote for him. After sucking Putin in Alaska, but after Putin finished in his mouth, still war, now welcoming war criminal Netanyahou who would be arrested in many countries, like Putin, but not in Trump USA and Trump made new war in Iran when 0 risk about nuclear attack.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077185]Fauci invokes the 5th. He will still be flogged by rightly so the Republicans and it remains to be seen if the Demorats still defend him.[/QUOTE]Some people's infatuation with this man who served his country ably and honorably for decades is just sickening and disgusting, as those Democrats at the hearing who indeed continue to defend him understand. Just remember. What goes around comes around!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077185]Fauci invokes the 5th. He will still be flogged by rightly so the Republicans and it remains to be seen if the Demorats still defend him.[/QUOTE][B]Rich Racist Republican[/B] distraction from the kinetic war being waged by the Dis United States that is about to unleash famine upon the world like we have never seen before.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077193]Some people's infatuation with this man who served his country ably and honorably for decades is just sickening and disgusting, as those Democrats at the hearing who indeed continue to defend him understand. Just remember. What goes around comes around![/QUOTE]Hey Cane, you can believe whatever you want to believe. I don't care. But this isn't about getting even. This is about getting the truth out, so this type of government intrusion and control over our basic rights and freedoms never happens again! As for "what goes around", you have to be joking after all the lying, misinformation, dirty tricks, and unprecedented politization of the Justice Department that the Dems have pulled since 2015 and continue to pull up to this day. I suppose you are still believe in the Russia Gate hoax, right?
So let's get down to the facts. Fauci knew the virus did not originate in the wet market from the get-go. He knew the virus in all probability came from the lab because he was funding its Gain of Function research, but he did not tell anyone about that! He lied about the effectiveness of the vaccine. He lied about heard immunity and what is worse he vilified more competent and independent scientists who disagreed with everything listed above and he pushed for closing of schools, businesses, and nursing homes while he partied and dined in person (no facial masks) with powerful Democrat politicians and left-wing news personalities. Yeah, Fauci is a Left-Wing Hero. He is all yours.
The Federal Reserve held its benchmark interest rate steady at a target range of 3.5% to 3.75% on Wednesday, July 29,2026. This is the fifth consecutive meeting with no change, though the decision was not unanimous, [B]with three officials dissenting in favor of a quarter-point hike[/B]. Inflation remains about the 2% target.
I think we are going to get a least one rate hike after the midterm elections. Gentlemen do not place your bets. I am not taking any. [B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077209]Hey Cane, you can believe whatever you want to believe. I don't care. But this isn't about getting even. This is about getting the truth out, so this type of government intrusion and control over our basic rights and freedoms never happens again! As for "what goes around", you have to be joking after all the lying, misinformation, dirty tricks, and unprecedented politization of the Justice Department that the Dems have pulled since 2015 and continue to pull up to this day. I suppose you are still believe in the Russia Gate hoax, right?
So let's get down to the facts. Fauci knew the virus did not originate in the wet market from the get-go. He knew the virus in all probability came from the lab because he was funding its Gain of Function research, but he did not tell anyone about that! He lied about the effectiveness of the vaccine. He lied about heard immunity and what is worse he vilified more competent and independent scientists who disagreed with everything listed above and he pushed for closing of schools, businesses, and nursing homes while he partied and dined in person (no facial masks) with powerful Democrat politicians and left-wing news personalities. Yeah, Fauci is a Left-Wing Hero. He is all yours.[/QUOTE]This notion that Fauci is some sort of far-left radical is nonsensical. Ronald Reagan worked with Fauci for many years and never said what you just did. I guess that ole liberal Ronald Reagan was wrong!
[QUOTE=Canada;3077018]Trump has no problem if you enter the country legally. It is only the people who come in illegally that Trump has a problem with.[/QUOTE]You weren't born here to parents who are American. You can get your ass shipped to Eswatini anytime and there would be nothing you can do about it. Think about it!
Rich Racist Republicans just don't give a fuck about the facts!
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3077255]You weren't born here to parents who are American. You can get your ass shipped to [b]Eswatini[/b] anytime and there would be nothing you can do about it. Think about it![/QUOTE][B]You are 100% Correct![/B]
The Supreme Court authorized these deportations in June 2025 despite lower courts previously blocking them over safety concerns. The current head of the Article 2 branch of the Dis United States of America has significantly expanded Third Country Deportations since February 2025. The USA Has secured agreements with over 30 countries to accept these deportees, including Rwanda, South Sudan, [B]Eswatini[/B], El Salvador, Panama, and Uganda. The Dis United States of America is has paid $7. 5 million paid to [B]Rwanda[/B] and $5. 1 million to [B]Eswatini[/B] of MY tax dollars in exchange for accepting migrants. I think that is fucked up!.
[B]Do the Rich Racist Republicans want to send me to Africa?[/B]
[URL]https://refugees.org/tcdtracker/[/URL]
[QUOTE]This page compiles publicly available information on third country deportations from the United States, and Asylum Cooperative Agreements (ACAs) and their impact on asylum seekers. It covers U.S. law on asylum and safe third countries, ongoing litigation, and country-specific agreements.[/QUOTE]
Not one but two Rich Reasonable Republican Senators are opposed to the head of the Article 2 head of government having his personal attorney run the Justice Department of the Dis United States of America.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/29/todd-blanche-attorney-general-trump-irs-audit-cornyn.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077209]He lied about heard immunity and what is worse he vilified more competent and independent scientists who disagreed with everything listed above and he pushed for closing of schools, businesses, and nursing homes while he partied and dined in person (no facial masks) with powerful Democrat politicians and left-wing news personalities. Yeah, Fauci is a Left-Wing Hero. He is all yours.[/QUOTE]And he and his asshole band of scientists collected huge royalties while pushing the vaccine. When Fauci was asked about his cohorts and how much they were making off the vaccine, he refused to answer.
Something the "provaxx" idiots do not get is that when viruses mutate, the vaccine not only does not work, but it is harmful because you are making antibodies against the old virus versus the new one. The body has a limit on how many antibodies it can produce.
As I have said before a million times, the vaccine worked great until the summer of 2021. The virus then mutated, and the vaccine no longer worked. What was so criminal is the douche bags like Fauci knew it was not working any longer and still were pushing it to cash in. The fucking assholes were even pushing it onto children.
The other thing the "provaxx" idiots do not get is that the number of cases of Covid soared AFTER the vaccine was produced and the virus mutuated. IOW, in January of 2021, there were not that many cases and not that many vaccinated. In the fall and winter of 2021, most were vaccinated yet there were record numbers of Covid cases, but the provaxx idiots swear the vaccine was still working.
Besides pushing the vaccine onto children, the other move that these asshole "scientists" did was push boosters. Once again, not only did these vaccines not work they were harmful and IMO a lot of the reason these "scientists" were pushing them was for $.
As for the reason the dumb Dems are not upset, it is the same as everything else. They think that they were so fucking smart about Covid and Republicans were so dumb that they refuse to even look at anything to the contrary.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077185]Fauci invokes the 5th. He will still be flogged by rightly so the Republicans and it remains to be seen if the Demorats still defend him.[/QUOTE]Donald Trump invoked the 5th Amendement and declined to answer questions over 440 times during his own August 2022 deposition with the New York Attorney General Office.
Anthony Fauci had already answered every pertinent question he was asked in this recent Repub MAGALoon Circus at previous Congressional hearings, under oath.
Aside from that, Fauci had zero to do with why a deadly viral spread developed into Trump's Pandemic while Trump was more responsible than anyone else on the planet for it developing into Trump's Pandemic, killing over a million Americans, millions more people around the world, crashing global economies and supply-chains, the business, school and travel venue closures, the historic job losses in the millions, the skyrocketing global inflation that followed, etc.
As everybody knows.
Donald Trump ushered in Trump's Pandemic in 2019 and 2020 the same way he has ushered in the growing spread of cyclosporiasis and measles in 2025 and 2026. Almost exactly the same way.
As everybody knows.
And Anthony Fauci had as much to do with Trump's foolish decisions contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid that have ushered in those 2025 and 2026 viral spreads as he did with the spread of Trump's Pandemic.
Which is zero.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3077253]This notion that Fauci is some sort of far-left radical is nonsensical. Ronald Reagan worked with Fauci for many years and never said what you just did. I guess that ole liberal Ronald Reagan was wrong![/QUOTE]Reagan, GHW Bush, GW Bush all praised him. Trump kept him on duty! LOL.
My only gripe with Fauci is he was way too passive in making it absolutely clear as soon as he knew it that the infection risks for giving or receiving BBBJCIM+Swallow even with and HIV-Positive partner was statistically insignificant, that for penetrative vaginal sex even with constant HIV-Positive partners was no greater than 1 in 2,500 (if all 2500 partners were HIV-Positive or you had sex 2,500 times with the same HIV-Positive partner or some combination of that) and that for receptive vaginal sex it was still extremely low even with an HIV-Positive partner. I forget the statistic now.
He knew for quite some time that bareback receptive anal sex with an HIV-Positive partner carried just about the only truly significant risk of HIV infection sexually. But he probably just let it go unmentioned "for the greater good" of getting everybody riled up about it in oder to encourage funding for vaccine and prevention medication research that probably wouldn't be all that great if everyone saw it as only a problem sexually for bone-smugglers.
And he really should have interrupted "president" Trump's lunatic blathering and lies press conferences about Trump's Pandemic and called him out in public for his lies and horrific exacerbating mismanagement of the Pandemic he, Trump, ushered in despite the fact that Repub Trump kept him on as the Repub Party's favorite scientific research and disease prevention and response figure. "For the greater good."
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077209]Hey Cane, you can believe whatever you want to believe. I don't care. But this isn't about getting even. This is about getting the truth out, so this type of government intrusion and control over our basic rights and freedoms never happens again! As for "what goes around", you have to be joking after all the lying, misinformation, dirty tricks, and unprecedented politization of the Justice Department that the Dems have pulled since 2015 and continue to pull up to this day. I suppose you are still believe in the Russia Gate hoax, right?
So let's get down to the facts. Fauci knew the virus did not originate in the wet market from the get-go. He knew the virus in all probability came from the lab because he was funding its Gain of Function research, but he did not tell anyone about that! He lied about the effectiveness of the vaccine. He lied about heard immunity and what is worse he vilified more competent and independent scientists who disagreed with everything listed above and he pushed for closing of schools, businesses, and nursing homes while he partied and dined in person (no facial masks) with powerful Democrat politicians and left-wing news personalities. Yeah, Fauci is a Left-Wing Hero. He is all yours.[/QUOTE]You know so damn much! Since it's all about "getting the truth out", they should call your ass to testify then LMAO! And unlike you, I do care. About truth, justice, and American democracy. You guys are beyond pathetic. There is no hope for you. Spouting all this bullshit while looking the other way at MAGA illegality and corruption while Trump takes a dump all over you LOL! So, how many of those Trump coins did you buy? LOLOLOL! The midterms will be the beginning of the end of MAGA. First we make Chump a lame duck President. That's the first thing. And from there you and all the rest of you too will be finding out that "what goes around comes around" ain't no joke. Even though I will be laughing as you get your just deserts. Satan causes a lot of damage. But never wins in the end.
The way, the light, and the disinfectant sayeth the false prophet! Why not call him to testify why he suggested this nonsense to the American people? I'm sure he'd plead the fifth (like he did 450 times before). But only guilty people do that right? I'll tell you the truth. The only ones dumber than Donald Trump are those who support him. Just plain ignorant! Because everything he touches turns to shit. Everything (the economy, Iran, World Cup intervention, the USFL, casinos, marriages, relationships with allies, construction projects, Trump Shuttle, etc. , etc). He's never been a succesful business man. A lying claim built on an unsteady house of cards. He's never been successful at shit but lying and building up a false image of himself. That's what he brought to the White House so no surprise about what we and the world got. He brought it, and idiot Americans bought it. Hook, line, and sinker!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAqjPXLTUMg[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077367]You know so damn much! Since it's all about "getting the truth out", they should call your ass to testify then LMAO! And unlike you, I do care. About truth, justice, and American democracy. You guys are beyond pathetic. There is no hope for you. Spouting all this bullshit while looking the other way at MAGA illegality and corruption while Trump takes a dump all over you LOL! So, how many of those Trump coins did you buy? LOLOLOL! The midterms will be the beginning of the end of MAGA. First we make Chump a lame duck President. That's the first thing. And from there you and all the rest of you too will be finding out that "what goes around comes around" ain't no joke. Even though I will be laughing as you get your just deserts. Satan causes a lot of damage. But never wins in the end.[/QUOTE]You are keeping it 100 brother. I agree with you completely!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3077338]Not one but two Rich Reasonable Republican Senators are opposed to the head of the Article 2 head of government having his personal attorney run the Justice Department of the Dis United States of America.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/29/todd-blanche-attorney-general-trump-irs-audit-cornyn.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Trump was already treating the DOJ like it's his personal law firm. Now, he wants to formalize it by appointing his actual personal attorney as Attorney General. I mean it's just despicable! The guy makes Richard Nixon look like Mother Teresa! Back in the 70's Republicans had a spine to go along with an ethical compass, and told "Tricky Dick" his time was up. It's a shame and a disgrace how far from that we have fallen. Now at least two, Cornyn and Tillis, are showing some backbone by demanding a written affirmation that Trump's slush fund for flunkies and cop beaters will never be operationalized. Hold the line guys, hold the line! Start the trend of GOPers showing some backbone by standing up to this wannabe dictator tyrant of an asshole by saying "no". Enough is enough! Just say no! What do you have to lose? You're leaving the Senate. Do what's right for the country. Fuck Donald Trump and his sycophants!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077426]Trump was already treating the DOJ like it's his personal law firm. Now, he wants to formalize it by appointing his actual personal attorney as Attorney General. I mean it's just despicable! The guy makes Richard Nixon look like Mother Teresa! Back in the 70's Republicans had a spine to go along with an ethical compass, and told "Tricky Dick" his time was up. It's a shame and a disgrace how far from that we have fallen. Now at least two, Cornyn and Tillis, are showing some backbone by demanding a written affirmation that Trump's slush fund for flunkies and cop beaters will never be operationalized. Hold the line guys, hold the line! Start the trend of GOPers showing some backbone by standing up to this wannabe dictator tyrant of an asshole by saying "no". Enough is enough! Just say no! What do you have to lose? You're leaving the Senate. Do what's right for the country. Fuck Donald Trump and his sycophants![/QUOTE]Don't fall for that Repub con. Cornyn is only claiming to be interested in removing the Trump and Trump Crime Family tax audit immunity for their future massive corruption and theft of American assets now that Trump and his Crime Family are within months of the greatest period of Trump and Trump Crime Family corruption and theft likely coming to a screeching halt after Dems take control of the House of Representatives anyway.
And Tillis is right there in the wings ready to join Cornyn in that scam.
Meanwhile, it is very likely both will eventually go along with whatever next billions and billions and billions of dollars worth of thefts Trump and his Crime Family want to steal from America, from which they can pay all the cop-beaters, cop-maimers and cop-killers their hearts desire to continue working with them and their Russia Russia Russia oligarch benefactors to overthrow American democracy and spread the wealth to all the Communist leaders that helped dad win elections and stay out of prison for a while.
[B]Finance Republicans kill bid to stop Trump IRS audit-immunity deal.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a vocal critic of the immunity plan, sided against a Democratic amendment to block it outright.
July 30, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/07/30/congress/finance-republicans-kill-bid-to-block-trump-audit-immunity-deal-01017050[/URL]
[QUOTE]Cornyn wants to clarify that the audit protections only applies to the parties named in Trumps suit, and that it only applies to returns already filed not future filings. Cornyn has complained that Blanche already agreed to that during his confirmation hearing earlier this month, but that the administration must put it in writing. The Senate Judiciary Committee, of which Cornyn is also a member, delayed a scheduled Thursday vote on Blanches nomination as Cornyn and the White House continue to negotiate.
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), another tax writer critical of the immunity deal, said he believes the administration is working in good faith to address objections to the audit immunity plan.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3073933]The Fed will raise interest rates three times before the year ends. Inflation is running at 4. 1% annually. The oil shock will take six months to flow through the economy. Food prices will be up 30% in the Dis United States of America, before the end of the year.
I'm on the record. On January 1, 2027, call me out if I'm wrong. I'll stand and take my grade.[/QUOTE]400 million people in the world are in danger of food insecurity (a fancy way of saying famine) due to the Dis United States of America's war on Iran with their Israeli lap dogs,. The majority of the those people are not in the Dis United Staes of America.
The majority of these people are in the [I]Global South[/I]. So let me break it down for you. If the [I]Straight of Hormuz[/I] continues to lose function that shuts down production of 10% of the worlds fertilizer needs. 5% of the world population relies on farmers getting that fertilizer to they can generate the crop yields to feed them.
[B]Think about that![/B]
The [B]Rich Racist Republicans[/B] don't give a fuck about that. This effect is going to take 12 - 24 months to filter through the food production system. The Fall planting season is going to be difficult. Fertilizer scarcity will be a problem. I am not saying the whole world is going to starve. I am saying there is going to be less food for the ENTIRE world population. That food will be distributed unevenly. My fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America are in the best position to weather this situation as they are the fattest in the world.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3075588]You are 100% correct. But it's not just the food and drinks, people have no control. 70% of the population is overweight, 30% is obese.[/QUOTE]Watch the increase in diesel prices. That directly impacts farm operations. I am not even talking about transporting the food after it is grown and harvested. In the Dis United States of America my fellow citizens are going to face increased prices and lower supply (which means few choices).
So let me break it down for you again. In the global south there is going to be massive migration north to search for food if the Dis United States does not wrap this war up RIGHT NOW (in the month of August)! If it goes until the end of the year there is going to be famine in the world. This is not something to have drinks over while bitches entertain us. This is serious stuff for anybody who is not sociopathic [B]Rich Racist Republican[/B].
[B]The Cmdr[/B] cares about his fellow citizen in the Dis United States of America and the fellow human beings outside of countries in the privileged north.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077367]You know so damn much! Since it's all about "getting the truth out", they should call your ass to testify then LMAO! And unlike you, I do care. About truth, justice, and American democracy. You guys are beyond pathetic. There is no hope for you. Spouting all this bullshit while looking the other way at MAGA illegality and corruption while Trump takes a dump all over you LOL! So, how many of those Trump coins did you buy? LOLOLOL! The midterms will be the beginning of the end of MAGA. First we make Chump a lame duck President. That's the first thing. And from there you and all the rest of you too will be finding out that "what goes around comes around" ain't no joke. Even though I will be laughing as you get your just deserts. Satan causes a lot of damage. But never wins in the end.[/QUOTE]It would be good if midterms stop Trump, getting rid of his craziness.
Yes, Trump is master of corruption and Infantino suck him good. I wish soccer will get rid of Infantino.
Trump owes Russia Russia Russia so much for Putin's tireless efforts to swing an election win for him in 2016,2020 and 2024, it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if Comrade Trump responds to this with absolutely nothing significant at all:
[B]Russian missile destroys US firms Kyiv drone factory.
Strike on Terminal Autonomy plant appears to be first time in the war that Moscow has targeted a US defence company.
July 30, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/30/us-firm-drone-factory-terminal-autonomy-ukraine-russia[/URL]
[QUOTE]A drone factory in Kyiv destroyed by a Russian ballistic missile on Friday was owned by a US corporation registered in Delaware, in what appears to be the first time Moscow has [b]targeted a US defence company in the conflict.[/b]
Terminal Autonomy makes precision deep-strike drones with guidance systems that are resistant to Russian jamming signals, according to a person familiar with the company.[/QUOTE]Actually, since the destruction seems likely to help Russia Russia Russia defeat and destroy Ukraine, Trump is much more likely to demand a FIFA Peace Prize be given to Putin for the attack.
"Anthony Fauci killed people with his lies about the vaccine" but the left don't want to hear about it. Why?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077599]"Anthony Fauci killed people with his lies about the vaccine" but the left don't want to hear about it. Why?[/QUOTE]First, the Trump-appointed "acting" CDC Director blocked the latest study reports of the safety and effectiveness of the Trump's Pandemic vaccine:
[B]US CDC will not publish report showing COVID vaccine effectiveness.
April 22, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-cdc-will-not-publish-report-showing-covid-vaccine-benefits-washington-post-2026-04-22/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Washington Post, which first reported the news on Wednesday, said earlier this month that the CDC had delayed publication of the report that showed the vaccines reduced emergency department visits and hospitalizations among healthy adults by about *half this past winter.[/QUOTE]Then, the report had to be posted somewhere else to get the truth out about it:
[B]COVID-19 vaccine study that was blocked from CDC journal is published elsewhere.
June 24, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/cdc-covid-vaccine-effective-study-256e61b5ff4fcf3bfecd48826077e389[/URL]
[QUOTE]NEW YORK (AP) A study on COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness has finally been published after being blocked from a government health journal.
The vaccine was found to be about 55% effective against COVID-19-associated hospitalizations, and reduced COVID-19-related trips to emergency departments and urgent care clinics by 50%, according to the study published Tuesday by JAMA Network Open.
The findings are not particularly surprising: Researchers have repeatedly found that COVID-19 vaccines work. But the paper drew public attention after Trump administration political appointees decided not to run it in a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention publication.[/QUOTE]Aren't you ashamed to be a slavish foot-soldier for Trump, the Mass Murderer of over a million Americans and millions more around the world due to the same methods of ushering in Pandemics and disease spreads wherever and whenever he can as he has done again and again with Covid, cyclosporiasis, measles and godknowswhatever else is coming down the pike thanks to his own spectacularly disastrous decisions and those of the loons he appoints to produce those same horrific results as often as possible?
If the war goes on, the US will have to put boots on the ground, and then Iran will invade Kuwait, and the whole thing will descend into WW3, which is a good thing, because nothing stimulates the American economy than war. Look at what happened after WW1 and WW2. We are in urgent need of a catastrophic global war to rev up the US economy again.
If it goes all tits up and nukes are involved, that's great too cause we'll all die. And I'm old, so I got nothing left to lose.
But if the war ends, the economy will also slowly improve again, so it's all good news all around. I don't understand what the problem is. We all learned from WW2, the Vietnam war, the gulf war, so many wars, that it always stimulates economies. Let's all cheer up. The more tragedy, the more chaos, the more money. That's how it's always been. Ask the British. Hundreds of years of unchecked colonialism and look at how strong their economy is for such a tiny island.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077599]"Anthony Fauci killed people with his lies about the vaccine" but the left don't want to hear about it. Why?[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/e6Jq9d9u4Ew?si=YOtdmCXMKe7pjw-h[/URL]
[QUOTE]Yes, oil jumped higher after the Mullas were taken out in February and the IRCG began to block oil tankers from shipping in the straits. I mentioned the price of crude in my last post because it acts as a barometer for what is going on in this war and who is wining. Will crude go back up into the 80's in the short run? I don't know. Maybe. But it ain't going up to $150 a barrel and staying there and it ain't going to do any permanent damage the US Economy. [/QUOTE]Yesterday Brent spiked to 90+. I was long. Got paid. WTI 87+. I was long. Got paid.
But according to another Rich Republican Racist (Elvis2008) I am not that financially smart. In the short term you are going to see Brent goto somewhere between 110 - 114. I'll get back in during the dip this weekend and ride it back up. Good for me. No so good for my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of America who are facing an average cost of gasoline between 4.10 - 4.12 USD / Gallon.
The Rich Racist Republican that currently heads the Article 2 branch of the government of the Dis United States of America has ordered his new secret police (ICE) to target another person of color.
[URL]https://abcnews.com/US/johns-hopkins-researcher-detained-ice-maryland-airport-university/story?id=135274591[/URL]
Not! Yet another lie told about yet another Trump touched matter gone to shit! Everything he touches turns to shit! Everything!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2026/07/31/nx-s1-5915828/reflecting-pool-david-hearn-dismiss[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077637]First, the Trump-appointed "acting" CDC Director blocked the latest study reports of the safety and effectiveness of the Trump's Pandemic vaccine:
[B]US CDC will not publish report showing COVID vaccine effectiveness.
April 22, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-cdc-will-not-publish-report-showing-covid-vaccine-benefits-washington-post-2026-04-22/[/URL]
Then, the report had to be posted somewhere else to get the truth out about it:[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT41i4t9aGo[/URL]
The Fed Cannot get the inflation rate down due to the fiscal policies of the current head of the Article 2 branch of government for the Dis United States of America. So they have decided to game the numbers. The changes are estimated to reduce inflation on paper 13 - 20 basis points.
Real inflation that my fellow citizens face will not change and will continue to increase at rate IRL that is significantly higher than the reported CPI and PCE.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2026/07/30/why-the-fed-isnt-going-to-contain-inflation/[/URL]
[B]Inflation is legalized theft![/B]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077689]Not! Yet another lie told about yet another Trump touched matter gone to shit! Everything he touches turns to shit! Everything!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2026/07/31/nx-s1-5915828/reflecting-pool-david-hearn-dismiss[/URL][/QUOTE]Tell us how you really feel about Trump. He is the Devil incarnate right. And all the party line Democrats and DSA Communist Jacobins are innocent little angels with golden halos. LOL. We get it. Sorry you don't.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3077678][URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/e6Jq9d9u4Ew?si=YOtdmCXMKe7pjw-h[/URL][/QUOTE]Good post. It blows me away that the cool aid drinkers can't deal with this. This should be a bipartisan issue. Gov Brylcreem, for example, relied on Fauci's self-serving recommendations perhaps a little too willingly before implementing his draconian policies to the detriment of his entire state. He should be pissed off at Fauci for misleading him. But no, these people never admit it when you are wrong!
But the thing that really pisses me off is the way Fauci and all the Dems and their propaganda media lapdogs tried to intimidate and silence credible scientists who disagreed with Fauci and the progressive, totalitarian party line. I remember the scorn and ridicule these assholes spewed on states like Florida and the nation of Sweden when their political leaders decided to listen to the science and not the hysterical party line of the US Democrat Propaganda Machine. Shame, Shame, Shame on all those nice folks who really care! Never forget this!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077689]Not! Yet another lie told about yet another Trump touched matter gone to shit! Everything he touches turns to shit! Everything!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2026/07/31/nx-s1-5915828/reflecting-pool-david-hearn-dismiss[/URL][/QUOTE]If former Olympian David Hearn was Black, it wouldn't matter one bit to Trump that the overwhelming evidence has now shown it was Trump's own crap pool boy who fucked up the Reflecting Pool and that all charges against Hearn had to be dropped after Trump and Pirro lied about it over and over again.
No, if Hearn was Black, Trump would now and forever be demanding Hearn be prosecuted, convicted and sentenced to as many years as such a crime allowed.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3077702][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT41i4t9aGo[/URL][/QUOTE]I haven't reorganized my sock drawer in months.
Oh, BTW, what's Trump going to do about the USA economy he is fucking up again and his Repub Quagmire Forever War of Choice based on a Repub lie?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077742]Tell us how you really feel about Trump. He is the Devil incarnate right. And all the party line Democrats and DSA Communist Jacobins are innocent little angels with golden halos. LOL. We get it. Sorry you don't.[/QUOTE]And it's a sorry state of affairs when the facts don't mean shit to you people. No, not "alternative facts". There is no such thing. There's the "actual facts", and that's it. MAGA and pinko commies can both step off! This is America! A country that I love, and one that I will stand shoulder-to-shoulder united with those who will defend it against all enemies, foreign [B]and[/B] dometic.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077757]If former Olympian David Hearn was Black, it wouldn't matter one bit to Trump that the overwhelming evidence has now shown it was Trump's own crap pool boy who fucked up the Reflecting Pool and that all charges against Hearn had to be dropped after Trump and Pirro lied about it over and over again. No, if Hearn was Black, Trump would now and forever be demanding Hearn be prosecuted, convicted and sentenced to as many years as such a crime allowed.[/QUOTE]If he had been black, then oh no question they would be saying that Black Lives Matter was behind a conspiracy again. A conspiracy to cut up the reflecting pool. Or, if not that, then somehow it would have been all about Antifa! That's the first thing they start screaming. Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and the Communist Party of America. What about Russsia, Russia, Russia? LMAO!
[QUOTE=Canada;3072453]Project was great and the refurbishment went well. Actually is was too good prompting the jealous Democrats to vandalize the pool. Now 7 Democrats have been arrested for vandalism and will be spending several years in prison. That is the way the violent Democrats operate. [b]Not something you should be proud of.[/b][/QUOTE]LOL! Only fools, mad dogs and zealot MAGA faithless, would fall for such [B]ridiculous lies,[/B] as their MAGA Fuhrer, has made repeated claims about vandals cutting 350-foot slits into his reflecting pool, saying at different times they used a knife, a box cutter and a razor.
When in fact (all if not) most of the non-MAGA world, saw evidential facts that pointed to, just more MAGA incompetence, shoddy work and a poor installment, from the MAGA Fuhrer's crony grifting bribing buddies.
[B]The DOJ has dropped the charges against Olympian David Hearn related to the vandalism of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, citing that the damage was due to flawed installation by the contractor, not vandalism. [/B] August 1, 2026 [URL]https://abcnews.com/Politics/doj-moves-dismiss-reflecting-pool-case-olympian-citing/story?id=135274977[/URL].
Believing the MAGA Fuhrer's, lies after lies after lies, [I]...is [U]"not something [b]YOU[/b] should be proud of"[/U][/I], should you choose to take your own advice, that you so clearly have no problem dishing out!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077746]Good post. It blows me away that the cool aid drinkers can't deal with this. This should be a bipartisan issue. Gov Brylcreem, for example, relied on Fauci's self-serving recommendations perhaps a little too willingly before implementing his draconian policies to the detriment of his entire state. He should be pissed off at Fauci for misleading him. But no, these people never admit it when you are wrong!
But the thing that really pisses me off is the way Fauci and all the Dems and their propaganda media lapdogs tried to intimidate and silence credible scientists who disagreed with Fauci and the progressive, totalitarian party line. I remember the scorn and ridicule these assholes spewed on states like Florida and the nation of Sweden when their political leaders decided to listen to the science and not the hysterical party line of the US Democrat Propaganda Machine. Shame, Shame, Shame on all those nice folks who really care! Never forget this![/QUOTE]Would you or some other MAGALoon here please quote one or two Covid-related "lies" or "revelations" shockingly discovered in Fauci's diary but has been known for years that has you numbskulls' heads exploding?
I have been waiting, waiting, waiting to hear it or read it and so far it has gone missing as much as that 350 foot gash in the bottom of the Reflecting Pool Trump swore he saw himself.
Ok. Just one will do. But please make it the most horrible one as far as MAGALoons are concerned.
Was it the part where he said Barbra Streisand contacted him to ask some questions about vaccines?
Normal people who are well-informed by Real News sources know this already, of course:
[B]Paul Distorts Faucis Diary Entry About COVID-19 and Wet Market.
July 30, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2026/07/paul-distorts-faucis-diary-entry-about-covid-19-and-wet-market/[/URL]
[QUOTE]In the hearing, and in multiple statements before and after, Paul has focused on a Jan. 26, 2020, diary entry in which Fauci stated that the first infection was in early December and was not connected to the market. Now we know the market was not the source, it was the amplifier.
Paul has zeroed in on these statements to[b] falsely suggest that Fauci was saying then that the coronavirus didnt have a natural origin and to argue that he wasnt being transparent with the public.[/b]
..........
This is not the gotcha that Paul makes it out to be. Citing this one passage removes critical context for Faucis statements and falsely implies that if the pandemic didnt originate in the one market, that it couldnt have had a natural origin. It also treats Faucis diary statement as an immutable fact, when in reality, it was an interpretation of the information that was known at the time.
Immediately after the amplifier sentence, Fauci was clear in his diary that this did not change his opinion that the outbreak had a natural origin. Having said that, somewhere the virus jumped from animals to humans, he wrote.
The diary entry also reflects the science as it was known at the time. Two days before Faucis entry, a Lancet article had been published that had found about a third of the 41 first lab-confirmed COVID-19 cases that had been hospitalized including the patient with the earliest symptom onset did not have a known connection to the wet market in question, the Huanan seafood market. [/QUOTE]There are so many, many more FACTS in that report that thoroughly debunk the lunacy and lies spewed by Repub Rand Paul, who was a recognized loon long before it became all the rage in the Repub Party to prove themselves to be hopeless Loons for all the World of normal people to laugh at and justifiably mock time and time again.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077759]I haven't reorganized my sock drawer in months.
Oh, BTW, what's Trump going to do about the USA economy he is fucking up again and his Repub Quagmire Forever War of Choice based on a Repub lie?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOg00E7FxoI[/URL]
There is a kinetic war going on and the Rich Racist Republicans want to talk about Fauci and put a man who would need to constantly recuse himself if confirmed in the the position of the head of the Justice Department.
In other news: The Digital Asset Market Clarity Act (also known as the clarity Act) is currently stalled in the Senate and is not expected to reach a floor vote before the August 2026 recess. [B]WTF?[/B]. The world is moving past the Dis United States of America as the Rich Racist Republicans play grab ass.
I also noticed something about the Rich Racist Republicans posting here. They only speak among themselves. Failing to make an argument to support their positions. Instead they just call names.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077759]I haven't reorganized my sock drawer in months.
Oh, BTW, what's Trump going to do about the USA economy he is fucking up again and his Repub Quagmire Forever War of Choice based on a Repub lie?[/QUOTE]Its shameful to see how Obama and Biden have allowed Iran to expand their ballistic missile program and support for terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East.
It's even more shameful to see you betraying your country to support a few radical Islamic terrorists governing Iran and terrorizing the entire world.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3077837]Its shameful to see how Obama and Biden have allowed Iran to expand their ballistic missile program and support for terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East.
It's even more shameful to see you betraying your country to support a few radical Islamic terrorists governing Iran and terrorizing the entire world.[/QUOTE]The Strait of Hormuz was open and operating in Obama and Biden presidencies. Not that case with Trump as he allows Bibi Netanyahu to play him as a chump. We got nothing but grief and fallen soldiers for this war of choice on behalf of Israel.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3077790][URL]
[B]Click like and subscribe[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOg00E7FxoI[/URL][/QUOTE]Below is a screenshot of what comes up in your latest link, apparently the culmination of all the links to all the sources for all the substantiation of all the BS Repub MAGALoons have been peddling online at least since 2015:
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3077837]Its shameful to see how Obama and Biden have allowed Iran to expand their ballistic missile program and support for terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East.
It's even more shameful to see you betraying your country to support a few radical Islamic terrorists governing Iran and terrorizing the entire world.[/QUOTE]It's difficult to tell if that is the punchline of a joke with the setup for it missing or the setup for a joke with the punchline for it missing.
I mean, as everyone knows, Obama was the one who got Iran to put in writing that they will never pursue nuclear weapons, Trump is the one who twice confirmed that Iran was in full compliance with that agreement, then Trump is the one who immediately dispelled with all National Security reason and tore up that agreement leaving Iran to do whatever it damn well pleased for the next 9 years now that their most virulent anti-American hardliners' predictions were proven true by Trump that they can't trust and shouldn't have honored any agreement with America, then Trump is the one who ignored his own intel and all expert warnings not to start a War of Whim against Iran because, 1, it posed no threat of a nuclear attack, 2, the regime was already softening its stance against America and the West since that Obama agreement had set them on that path already, 3, the old hardline Supreme Leader was on his deathbed anyway, 4, he was surrounded by moderates waiting nearby to take over at the moment of his death and, 5, to start a War of Whim Against Iran would surely mean Iran would retaliate with all the moves they have indeed retaliated with so far that have only handed them more power over worldwide economies than they ever had before, then Trump is the one who ignored all of that and launched his War of Whim Against Iran anyway, killing the already dying Supreme Leader, killing all if the moderates who were waiting in the wings ready to take over, killing thousands of Iranian citizens and hundreds of Iranian children for which Iran most assuredly has resolved to never, never, never comply with any agreement with America ever again and will also most assuredly devote themselves to acquiring nuclear weapons as well as launch into generations of asymmetrical warfare against America and Americans all around the world as targets of terrorism and terrorist attacks, all set in motion and freshly inspired by Trump because he owed some leaders in the Middle East, who always pined for America to plunge itself into a Forever War Against Iran, payback for getting him elected, dodging justice and filling his and his Crime Family's pockets with hundreds and hundreds of billions and billions of dollars in emoluments, bailoults and bribes.
Which brings us to where we are today.
So what was the part of either the setup for your joke or the punchline for it that had anything to do with Obama, Biden or me but went missing?
Can you please repost it with the missing part included?
Thank you.
Does anybody else here think the odyssey was a good movie? I thought it was ok I guess, but I much prefer Spiderman. Also, this is going to be a hot take, but I think that Bear was the villain in Obsession. That's right, I said it.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3077642][B]It's good news no matter how you look at it[/b]
If the war goes on, the US will have to put boots on the ground, and then Iran will invade Kuwait, and the whole thing will descend into WW3, which is a good thing, because nothing stimulates the American economy than war. Look at what happened after WW1 and WW2. We are in urgent need of a catastrophic global war to rev up the US economy again.
If it goes all tits up and nukes are involved, that's great too cause we'll all die. And I'm old, so I got nothing left to lose.
But if the war ends, the economy will also slowly improve again, so it's all good news all around. I don't understand what the problem is. We all learned from WW2, the Vietnam war, the gulf war, so many wars, that it always stimulates economies. Let's all cheer up. The more tragedy, the more chaos, the more money. That's how it's always been. Ask the British. Hundreds of years of unchecked colonialism and look at how strong their economy is for such a tiny island.[/QUOTE]This Repub-promoted nonsense that "War is good for the economy" is at best an optical illusion.
The Repubs' American Civil War was terrible for the economy and its ripple effects are still bad.
WWI was immediately followed by a horrific Recession.
FDR's economic recovery from the Great Repub Depression was roaring along just fine prior to WWII.
Then there was a Recession during WWII.
The Attack on Pearl Harbor and Declaration of War from Germany to America only delayed far better economic measures that could have been taken for the American people instead.
Followed by another Recession immediately after WWII when all the bills came due.
Repub Eisenhower did everything he could to fully commit the USA military to Forever Wars in Iran / The Middle East and Vietnam. Despite the country having to gear up for those Repub Forever Wars his efforts resulted in 3 Recessions during his 8 years in office and one of the worst jobs creation records in modern history.
Repub GHW Bush slept through and never responded to his Iraq Ambassador's request from Saddam Hussein to share his opinion of the idea to invade and take over Kuwait. Consequently, Hussein invaded Kuwait and we had to respond with a Repub War in Kuwait, which itself triggered damaging economic and national security ripple effects ever since. But at least Repub president GHW Bush had several good nights' sleep and a few pleasant rounds of golf. Oh, and his presidency also produced one of the worst jobs creation records in modern history.
His son, GW Bush, started at least 2 Repub Wars of Choice based on a Repub lie and they raged throughout his two terms. His economy was one of the Worst of all time for any president, beat out on the Worst rank by only Repub Hoover and Repub Trump.
Repub Trump presided over Repub GW Bush's War in Afghanistan for the entirety of his first term. His economy and jobs creation record, especially when you factor in the Trillions he added to the deficit, was crap even before he ushered in Trump's Pandemic and turned into Total Historic Crap after he ushered in Trump's Pandemic.
Trump's Repub War of Choice in Iran based on a Repub Lie in his 2nd term is not only not turning around his crap economic results from prior to plunging America into it, the weak GDP Growth and weak jobs creation numbers strongly suggest he will be the first president in USA history to serve two terms, 8 years, and not produced a single net gain private-sector job in the economy and might very well leave office having wiped out more than a million private-sector jobs. And, again, that is despite him adding Trillions and Trillions more to his deficits than any other president in history and having started and presided over War for almost every month of those two terms.
See, the optical illusion part of this that Repubs love is that it just so happens that the USA economy has done very well over the past 100 years or so whenever a Dem is in the White regardless whether a foreign country starts a War on their watch or they have to contend with a Repub Forever War of Choice based on a Repub Lie or if there is no War at all other than a few months at the beginning of their term that they got us out of; Carter, Clinton, Biden, honorable mention to Obama for cutting GW Bush's two Repub Forever Wars down to one, the one Repub Trump happily presided over for the entirety of his first term while still producing the Worst economic results since Repub Hoover, the one Biden ended.
Meanwhile, War or no War, a Dem in the White House has guaranteed far superior economic results while a Repub in the White House has guaranteed crap economic results for at least 100 years.
So whenever the above happens, Repubs jump on it with a lame and false claim that the only reason the economy did so much better under the Dem was because another country started a War against us, against some other country, one of their Repub Forever Wars was raging on and on and shit like that. Which never explains why Dem economies are still far superior to Repub economies of the past 100 years whether you're compare a no war Dem presidency to a no war Repub presidency or a war Dem presidency to a war Repub presidency.
The key to far superior USA economies vs horrific USA economies is a Dem in the White House vs a Repub in the White House. Nothing to do with War or no War.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077773]And it's a sorry state of affairs when the facts don't mean shit to you people. No, not "alternative facts". There is no such thing. There's the "actual facts", and that's it. MAGA and pinko commies can both step off! This is America! A country that I love, and one that I will stand shoulder-to-shoulder united with those who will defend it against all enemies, foreign [B]and[/B] dometic.[/QUOTE]This is good to hear. So, you are still rational enough to stand with the President, most brain functioning Americans, and the entire Middle East against the murderous, religious fanatics still ruling over and murdering the Persian people and anyone else they can get their hands on and still intent on obtaining nuclear weapons.
That you oppose the idiotic, yet dangerous DSA radical communists now attempting to take over the Democratic Party like Mamdani, Rashida Tlaib, AOC, Jamaal Bowman, Cori Bush, and their favorite communist candidates running for office in 2026 like Francesca Hong, Troy Jackson, James Talarico, and last but not least Abdul El-Sayed.
I am aware that there are still a few moderate, and rational Democrat politicians inside the Democratic party. Let's hope they prevail in the current civil war raging inside the Democratic Party and more moderates finally find the courage to stand up against the crazies.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3077837]Its shameful to see how Obama and Biden have allowed Iran to expand their ballistic missile program and support for terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East.
It's even more shameful to see you betraying your country to support a few radical Islamic terrorists governing Iran and terrorizing the entire world.[/QUOTE]Yep, shameful is the word for it but the Woke / Marxist radicals have lost their minds. They hate America and want to see it destroyed so out of the ashes they can create their totalitarian utopia. They are so misguided and dangerous, but this has happened before in Russia, Germany, China, Cambodia, Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela with unbelievably nightmarish results.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3077848]The Strait of Hormuz was open and operating in Obama and Biden presidencies. Not that case with Trump as he allows Bibi Netanyahu to play him as a chump. We got nothing but grief and fallen soldiers for this war of choice on behalf of Israel.[/QUOTE]The Strait of Hormuz was open and operating not just under Obama and Biden, but under every single other presidency in history. The difference? Donald Trump touched it. And you know what that means right? It all turned to shit! And what weakness for him to stand there and claim nobody told him the Iranians would threaten the strait! Really? Then that's just more evidence of the incompetence of this administration!
Since nether Axel nor any other MAGALoons here or anywhere can quote or cite any "lie" or "revelation" in Fauci's Diary or, frankly, any of his sworn under oath testimony before Congress over the years that hasn't been fully and logically explained, debunking every lunatic Repub Rand Paul actual lie and false claim about it, that has caused MAGALoons' heads to explode recently, I will graciously provide an 8 minute video explaining why MAGALoons are so very obsessed and so very angered by Dr. Fauci despite there being absolutely zero logical reason for them to feel that way.
[B]5 Reasons the Trump Cult is Obsessed with Dr. Fauci[/B]
[URL]https://youtu.be/eexbPn5u8uo?is=NrJnyQmoyX0DDWsV[/URL]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077911]I am aware that there are still a few moderate, and rational Democrat politicians inside the Democratic Party.[/QUOTE]If only there was some of that still left in the Republican Party. Instead, spineless GOPers lacking cajones choose to kiss Donald Trump's fat ass. Disgraceful! History will judge them and the MAGA movement harshly.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3077848]The Strait of Hormuz was open and operating in Obama and Biden presidencies. Not that case with Trump as he allows Bibi Netanyahu to play him as a chump. We got nothing but grief and fallen soldiers for this war of choice on behalf of Israel.[/QUOTE]The oil disruption is great for me. Volatility is good for trading. But not so good for my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of America and the rest of the world.
But the Republicans don't care about that.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3077860]Does anybody else here think the odyssey was a good movie? I thought it was ok I guess, but I much prefer Spiderman. [/QUOTE]I am in no hurry to see it so I will wait until it gets to a streaming service that I subscribe to.
But let me remind everybody that there already is a "Odyssey" film out there. It's called "Ulysses" staring Kirk Douglas, Silvana Mangano, and Anthony Quinn and while the special effects are circa 1954, this film tells the story the way it was meant to be told. I liked the casting of Silvana Mangano as both Circe and Penelope. That was fucking brilliant! I especially liked the father and son reunion and the finale fight scene where Ulysses (Kirk Douglas) takes back what is rightfully his ie his kingdom, his home, and his wife. Again, I have not seen the Nolan remake, but I guarantee you one thing: Kirk Douglas is 10 x the actor Matt Damon is.
Check it out: [URL]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047630/?ref_=ttch_ov_bk[/URL]
Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination more than 100 times during a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on July 29, 2026.
Republicans viewed the Fifth Amendment invocation as evidence of guilt.
They need to read The Constitution of the United States of America. In it they will find the 5th Amendment.
[QUOTE]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; [b]nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself[/b], nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.[/QUOTE]Have Republicans forgot how things work in the Dis United States of America? [B]Innocent until proven guilty[/B].
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/29/anthony-fauci-senate-hearing-covid[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3077773]And it's a sorry state of affairs when the facts don't mean shit to you people. No, not "alternative facts". There is no such thing. There's the "actual facts", and that's it. MAGA and pinko commies can both step off! This is America! A country that I love, and one that I will stand shoulder-to-shoulder united with those who will defend it against all enemies, foreign [B]and[/B] dometic.[/QUOTE]This is something I have taken a oath to do in the past. But that time has come and gone. I have passed the baton and iron onto those who are more capable of doing it IRL. Now I am just a keyboard warrior offing my encouragement to fight the good fight against the Republicans.
In my previous post, I suggested that those, that were bloviating about so called socialism in America, were obviously blinded to the blatant and unprecedented levels of corruption, thievery, grifting and looting of public coffers, by their MAGA Furher, his MAGA Crime Family and Criminal MAGA Syndicate billionaire buddies, framed as their own 'MAGA Socialist' Piggybank, was perhaps labeled incorrectly and upon reflection, this really more resembles, [B]the looting of communist regimes[/B].
[U]The MAGA Communist Party, looting of public coffers:[/U]
The $1 for you, $100 for me, MAGA Fuhrer style of "MAGA capitalism", is its own MAGA brand of "commie bastard capitalism" (to coin a phrase), masquerading as capitalism, when corruption, theft and the looting of public coffers, goes unchecked by gullible Republicans, blinded by fake Christian nationalism, that ignores the social democratic processes that capitalism lives in.
[NOPARSE]Signs of a MAGA Communist Party:
-Republicans (one-half of congress) are too scared to do anything to stop the theft of public coffers
-MAGA minority, run the party and govern with iron-fist mob-style loyalty
-Fake Christian nationalism in opposition to democracy, while masked as patriotism
-The MAGA regime is style itself after a Nazi style dictatorship, equipped with Nazi Brownshirts (ICE) policing force.
-MAGA/right-wing media placate to the grifting whims of the MAGA Fuhrer and say very little about the corruption
This is the exactly the criminal thievery and rhetoric language, of a Russian/North Korea communist party and rule of law, MAGA has adopted. Blinded by the simpleton socialist and leftist party language, designed easily to distract, confuse and obfuscate attention from, [/NOPARSE][B]the rather large overflowing billions in the MAGA "communist piggybank" endowment funds, [/B]gained from the spectacle of self-enrichment schemes by their vaunted MAGA Fuhrer and MAGA Crime Family.
MAGA Fuhrer corruption tracker: [URL]https://trumpcorruptiontracker.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077851]Below is a screenshot of what comes up in your latest link, apparently the culmination of all the links to all the sources for all the substantiation of all the BS Repub MAGALoons have been peddling online at least since 2015:[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/K4wnc1q5RuE?si=FEX4iyUEdyOMb76f[/URL]
[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/K4wnc1q5RuE?si=FEX4iyUEdyOMb76f[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077855]It's difficult to tell if that is the punchline of a joke with the setup for it missing or the setup for a joke with the punchline for it missing.
I mean, as everyone knows, Obama was the one who got Iran to put in writing that they will never pursue nuclear weapons, Trump is the one who twice confirmed that Iran was in full compliance with that agreement, then Trump is the one who immediately dispelled with all National Security reason and tore up that agreement leaving Iran to do whatever it damn well pleased for the next 9 years now that their most virulent anti-American hardliners' predictions were proven true by Trump that they can't trust and shouldn't have honored any agreement with America, then Trump is the one who ignored his own intel and all expert warnings not to start a War of Whim against Iran because, 1, it posed no threat of a nuclear attack, 2, the regime was already softening its stance against America and the West since that Obama agreement had set them on that path already, 3, the old hardline Supreme Leader was on his deathbed anyway, 4, he was surrounded by moderates waiting nearby to take over at the moment of his death and, 5, to start a War of Whim Against Iran would surely mean Iran would retaliate with all the moves they have indeed retaliated with so far that have only handed them more power over worldwide economies than they ever had before, then Trump is the one who ignored all of that and launched his War of Whim Against Iran anyway, killing the already dying Supreme Leader, killing all if the moderates who were waiting in the wings ready to take over, killing thousands of Iranian citizens and hundreds of Iranian children for which Iran most assuredly has resolved to never, never, never comply with any agreement with America ever again and will also most assuredly devote themselves to acquiring nuclear weapons as well as launch into generations of asymmetrical warfare against America and Americans all around the world as targets of terrorism and terrorist attacks, all set in motion and freshly inspired by Trump because he owed some leaders in the Middle East, who always pined for America to plunge itself into a Forever War Against Iran, payback for getting him elected, dodging justice and filling his and his Crime Family's pockets with hundreds and hundreds of billions and billions of dollars in emoluments, bailoults and bribes..[/QUOTE]Obama's deal with Iran was equally impressive as Neville Chamberlain's "Peace in our time" deal with Adolf.
Let's be honest; why do you think all of the US allies in the region were absolutely furious over Obama's deal? If it was such a great deal wouldn't they have celebrated?
They were livid because Obama's deal basically handed the entire Middle East to Iran. Hezbollah terrorists caught trafficking narcotics into the US were released and sent back to the Middle East flying First Class.
What moderates are you talking about? There are no moderates in the Iranian regime, or do you really think murdering 30'000 demonstrators is moderate?
That's one of the reasons why Trump tok out the evil ayatollah and the "moderates" that you were talking about.
The awful part in all of this is that Trump has probably saved more innocent Iranian lives than what has been taken by US bombs, its a fact that the Iranian regime has murdered more Iranians than USA.
What we do know for sure is that the main cause of death among young Iranians is the Iranian regime. But sure, they were moderates.
The Obama deal was great for Iran because it gave them more money to spend on their ballistic missile program and terrorist friends in Lebanon and Yemen. Much of the chaos we see today was indirectly financed by USA under the Obama administration.
The Obama deal was a road to nuclear weapons and complete control over the Middle East and Strait of Hormusz for Iran.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078030]Obama's deal with Iran was equally impressive as Neville Chamberlain's "Peace in our time" deal with Adolf.
Let's be honest; why do you think all of the US allies in the region were absolutely furious over Obama's deal? If it was such a great deal wouldn't they have celebrated?
They were livid because Obama's deal basically handed the entire Middle East to Iran. Hezbollah terrorists caught trafficking narcotics into the US were released and sent back to the Middle East flying First Class.
What moderates are you talking about? There are no moderates in the Iranian regime, or do you really think murdering 30'000 demonstrators is moderate?
That's one of the reasons why Trump tok out the evil ayatollah and the "moderates" that you were talking about..[/QUOTE][B]Trump administration says Iran complying with nuclear deal.
April 29, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/united-states-government-3b0e6e3cc254433ead3a283bb30d079b[/URL]
[B]Trump on Irans Multiple Violations.
April 13, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/trump-irans-multiple-violations/[/URL]
Trump never made a clear case for why he tore up Obama's deal. And his own Intel agencies could not support his lamebrained decision to do that.
[B]President Trump Could Decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. That Could Massively Backfire.
Dec. 13, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/4978954/president-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-sanctions/[/URL]
In fact, that decision and his more lamebrained decision to have America payback with its blood, lived and money his 2024 election win debt to Netanyahu and his Crime Family's emoluments, bailouts and bribes debts to other countries in the region who wished for a USA president stupid enough to start a Forever War with Iran has massively backfired on America has also never been justified by his own Intel agencies.
Neither Trump nor any future Repub nor doubtful even a future Dem will ever get as good a deal with Iran as the one Obama and Kerry got after years of hard work and negotiation.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078030]Obama's deal with Iran was equally impressive as Neville Chamberlain's "Peace in our time" deal with Adolf.
Let's be honest; why do you think all of the US allies in the region were absolutely furious over Obama's deal? If it was such a great deal wouldn't they have celebrated?
They were livid because Obama's deal basically handed the entire Middle East to Iran. Hezbollah terrorists caught trafficking narcotics into the US were released and sent back to the Middle East flying First Class.
What moderates are you talking about? There are no moderates in the Iranian regime, or do you really think murdering 30'000 demonstrators is moderate?
That's one of the reasons why Trump tok out the evil ayatollah and the "moderates" that you were talking about.
The awful part in all of this is that Trump has probably saved more innocent Iranian lives than what has been taken by US bombs, its a fact that the Iranian regime has murdered more Iranians than USA.
What we do know for sure is that the main cause of death among young Iranians is the Iranian regime. But sure, they were moderates..[/QUOTE]Obama's great accomplishment in his short-sighted capitulation to Iran was giving the Mulla's a legal pathway towards obtaining nuclear weapons and the means of delivering those weapons to their perceived enemies in the region.
But in all fairness, it remains to be seen how the current war will turn out. Trump keeps postponing the inevitable, IMHO. I. E. Destroying Iran's infrastructure and sending the regime back to the pre-industrial age.
Both a major blunder and total disrespect:
[URL]https://youtu.be/ION8k6EVu2M?is=1IeMKCjh8MUsXW6a[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3078079][B]Trump administration says Iran complying with nuclear deal.
April 29, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/united-states-government-3b0e6e3cc254433ead3a283bb30d079b[/URL]
[B]Trump on Irans Multiple Violations.
April 13, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/trump-irans-multiple-violations/[/URL]
Trump never made a clear case for why he tore up Obama's deal. And his own Intel agencies could not support his lamebrained decision to do that.
[B]President Trump Could Decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. That Could Massively Backfire.
Dec. 13, 2017[/B]
[URL]https://time.com/4978954/president-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-sanctions/[/URL]
In fact, that decision and his more lamebrained decision to have America payback with its blood, lived and money his 2024 election win debt to Netanyahu and his Crime Family's emoluments, bailouts and bribes debts to other countries in the region who wished for a USA president stupid enough to start a Forever War with Iran has massively backfired on America has also never been justified by his own Intel agencies.
Neither Trump nor any future Repub nor doubtful even a future Dem will ever get as good a deal with Iran as the one Obama and Kerry got after years of hard work and negotiation.[/QUOTE]The Iran deal was a joke, all other US allied countries in the region agreed on that.
You have to stop acting as a cheerleader for whatever the democrats are doing and start to think for yourself. I'm sure Obama and his administration did some good things but they truly dropped the ball on the Iran issue. As I've just said before Obama strengthened Iran and gave money for weapons and soldiers and a clear path to nuclear weapons and dominating the Middle East.
Obama didn't understand the Middle East and he didn't seem to care about it.
I'm glad to see that you're unable to debunk or prove me wrong on a single point.
Just admit that Obama messed up and stop the childish name calling against your political opponents, you can do that without voting for Trump or the next President Marco Rubio.
I'm actually sad to see that you're pretending that the Iran deal was anything but a gigantic failure. It didn't address a single issue, except the nuclear weapons which Iran didn't have and still doesn't have today.
It actually makes me angry to think about how awful the deal was.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078107]Obama's great accomplishment in his short-sighted capitulation to Iran was giving the Mulla's a legal pathway towards obtaining nuclear weapons and the means of delivering those weapons to their perceived enemies in the region.
But in all fairness, it remains to be seen how the current war will turn out. Trump keeps postponing the inevitable, IMHO. I. E. Destroying Iran's infrastructure and sending the regime back to the pre-industrial age.[/QUOTE]Trump needs to end this war by ending the Iranian regime.
It would be the best thing since the fall of Nazi-Germany. But everyone is so shortsighted, especially the market. Sometimes you just got to take the pain to get a better future in the long run.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078107]Obama's great accomplishment in his short-sighted capitulation to Iran was giving the Mulla's a legal pathway towards obtaining nuclear weapons and the means of delivering those weapons to their perceived enemies in the region.
But in all fairness, it remains to be seen how the current war will turn out. Trump keeps postponing the inevitable, IMHO. I. E. Destroying Iran's infrastructure and sending the regime back to the pre-industrial age.[/QUOTE]What was this "legal pathway towards obtaining nuclear weapons" of which you speak? Do you have a link for that other than Trump saying so in some blithering state of uncontrollable "weave"?
The Obama-Kerry deal had Iran explicitly stating they would never obtain them, the very words Trump has been demanding of Iran were already in the deal he tore up.
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]In Obama's deal, did Iran explicitly state they would never obtain nuclear weapons?
+4
Yes, under the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), Iran explicitly reaffirmed its commitment under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that it would "under no circumstances ever seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons".Official Commitments in the DealPermanent Reaffirmation: The text of the JCPOA explicitly states that Iran will not, under any circumstances, seek, develop, or acquire nuclear weapons.[/b]
NPT Obligations: This commitment tied back to Iran's long-standing legally binding status as a non-nuclear weapon state under the international Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
[B]No-Expiration Prohibitions: The White House and international partners stressed that the foundational prohibition against an Iranian nuclear weapon had no end date or "sunset" clause.[/b]
The Religious Context (The Fatwa)Religious Ruling: Iranian officials frequently pointed to a religious decree, or fatwa, issued by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei declaring that the production and use of weapons of mass destruction were forbidden under Islamic law.
Diplomatic Role: While Tehran often presented this fatwa during negotiations as a religious guarantee matching their legal pledges, Western critics and analysts long debated whether such a political/religious statement carried the weight of an immutable, verifiable restriction.Is Iran developing a nuclear weapon? - UK ParliamentFeb 15, 2555 BE The Iranian government says that it is not aiming to develop nuclear weapons. In fact, in a. statement to the IAEA meeting in Vienna in 2005, the Iranian chief ...UK ParliamentThe nuclear fatwa that wasnthow Iran sold the world a false narrative - Atlantic CouncilMay 9, 2567 BE According to Khosro Sayeh Isfahani, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator at the time, there was no coordination in advance for a "fatwa" against nuclear weapons. The...Atlantic CouncilIran has never sought nuclear weapons and never will, Khamenei aide saysFeb 3, 2568 BE Iran has said that it will not pursue nuclear weapons. Iran's Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, has said that building and maintaining nuclear weapons is "absolutel...ایران اینترنشنالFact-checking Trump's comments that a 2015 deal gave Iran ... - PBSMar 7, 2569 BE Our ruling. Trump said the nuclear agreement "gave (Iran) the right to have top-of-the-line nuclear weapons." The nuclear agreement did not bless any Iranian "r...PBSThe Historic Deal that Will Prevent Iran from Acquiring a Nuclear WeaponNo. Under this deal as well as under the Nonproliferation Treaty, Iran is never allowed to develop nuclear weapons. Put simply, under this deal, there is a perm...National Archives (.gov)The Historic Deal that Will Prevent Iran from Acquiring a Nuclear WeaponThe Iran Deal blocks the four pathways to a nuclear weapon. Building a nuclear bomb requires either uranium or plutonium, but thanks to this deal, Iran's four...National Archives (.gov)THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ...Jul 14, 2558 BE Iran can never acquire a nuclear weapon is permanent. The end of some commitments in 10-15 years will not re-open the door to an Iranian nuclear weapon. Cruci...National Archives (.gov)[/QUOTE]And as far as Iran having missiles that could reach its neighbors in the Middle East, Trump already openly agreed to that "out of fairness" on the World stage:
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE][b]Tump agreed to allow Iran to have missiles out of fairness.
President Donald Trump stated that it is acceptable and a matter of relative fairness for Iran to possess ballistic missiles in proportion to neighboring countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar.[/b]
Context of Trump's Statement
[B]G7 Summit Remarks: [/b]
During a press conference in France on June 17, 2026, Trump remarked, [b]If other countries have them, its a little bit unfair for them not to have some,[/b] as reported by the Times of Israel.
Proportional Limits:
[B]He clarified that in relative proportion to regional peers who already possess them, allowing Iran some conventional ballistic missiles is okay, distinguishing them from catastrophic nuclear weapons.[/b]
2:20Trump promises new Iran talks on Monday. Iran says it's only talking to ...FacebookAl Jazeera EnglishAs deal takes force, Trump says 'it's okay' for Iran to have some ballistic missilesJun 18, 2569 BE [b] US President Donald Trump on Wednesday claimed Iran should be allowed to keep some of its ballistic missiles, as he defended the signed memorandum of understand...The Times of Israel[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3077860]Does anybody else here think the odyssey was a good movie? I thought it was ok[/QUOTE]My English teacher's first assigment to us was the Odyssey and he made the case that there never has been literature ever as good, so it is hard to screw things up when you have good source material.
Of course, the PC / DEI elements bugged me. Nolan literally made up a trannie character called Sinon to show a white man being cruel to her / him. Of course, Helen of Troy, the most beautiful woman in the world, had to be black as did her sister. She had to tell off her husband and Athena had to be half black.
Part of the book was showing how the Gods had their favorites and people were just pawns in their game. Of course, that would mean that the bad actions of a white man / men were not due entirely to themselves, and Hollywood could not have that, so the Gods playing their games with humans, a huge part of the Odyssey, were cut to almost nothing.
All Athena did was shrug and look at Odysseus in a shaming way. She could have been cut from the movie entirely.
Calypso was basically a hooker / mistress type who drugged Odysseus to keep him from returning home to his wife. Of course, she was shown to be compassionate. The female slaves plotting with the suitors could not be killed in the movie. The wife of Odysseus had to order around the son when in the literature it was vice versa. The wife had to be the strong mom, boss babe type. All women have to be good and morally pure! Sigh.
We did have white slaves though. OMG, say it isn't so. White people as slaves? That must be fiction.
Given how the minorities and women were treated, I felt like part of the messaging of the Odyssey about loyalty, patience, and virtue were diminished. The only people who seem to screw up and learn in movies in Hollywood these days have to be white men. Everyone else is perfect.
That said, I would give the movie an A-. I am not sure the film could be made without being somewhat PC / DEI. The good part were the action sequences were incredible. The movie was fast paced and there were no parts that dragged. The relationship between Odysseus and his men were real and faithful to the source material as was the no-win situation and conflicts a leader can sometimes be placed in. It is a fantastic story, arguably the greatest story ever told, and the movie did bring it to life which was not easy.
So it is worth seeing even if you have to hold your nose at some parts.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078143]Trump needs to end this war by ending the Iranian regime. It would be the best thing since the fall of Nazi-Germany. But everyone is so shortsighted, especially the market. Sometimes you just got to take the pain to get a better future in the long run.[/QUOTE]According to him he already ended the regime. We took out a few layers of it, but then the next wave espousing the same views (or even worse) stepped into place. That's not regime change. That's causing the enemy to just dig in even deeper. I'm not a big proponent of regime change anyway. How well did that turn out for us in Iraq and Afghanistan? Even in Venezuela we didn't get true regime change. Short of total war and complete annihilation (Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan for example), which comes at a terrible price on all sides, regime change doesn't seem to be working out too well. I'm more for "behavioral modification" in most cases than I am for regime change. Make it hurt enough, and the enemy will change its behavior. Trump's problem is that he's acting like he can deal with these people like he's trying to get a Manhattan real estate deal or something! Once we started, we should not have stopped until the job was done. Don't just talk about it. No, bomb their asses back into the stone age! What did Saddam Hussein do when the Iraq-Iran War looked like it was going to turn badly against him? He used poison gas on their asses, and that's when Iran sued for peace! I'm not saying we ought to or need to go that far. But what I am saying is make it hurt enough militarily, economically, and diplomatically and the bastards actually will be begging for a ceasefire (and not just Trump lying about that)! Trump is fucking up big time. He got us into this shit, and now he doesn't known how to get out. But what else could we expect? He doesn't have the stomach or stamina for war. Talks a lot of shit, but isn't up to the task. He doesn't have the ""nerve" to bring the pain. But Saddam Hussein the bastard brought the "nerve" gas! Well, I don't know what type of gas it was. I forgot. But, you get my "drift". Saddam Hussein made sure whatever kind of gas it was it "drifted" over enemy lines, and the Iranians quit real quick! Find a way to make it hurt enough, and they [B]will[/B] quit! That's all I'm saying. No more on again off again nonsense unnecessarily risking the lives of our forces! Force is the only things these people are going to understand. So let them have it and stop fucking around. Shit or get off the pot and get out of there! One or the other man. One or the other!
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078010]In my previous post, I suggested that those, that were bloviating about so called socialism in America, were obviously blinded to the blatant and unprecedented levels of corruption, thievery, grifting and looting of public coffers, by their MAGA Furher, his MAGA Crime Family and Criminal MAGA Syndicate billionaire buddies, framed as their own 'MAGA Socialist' Piggybank, was perhaps labeled incorrectly and upon reflection, this really more resembles, [B]the looting of communist regimes[/B].
[U]The MAGA Communist Party, looting of public coffers:[/U]
The $1 for you, $100 for me, MAGA Fuhrer style of "MAGA capitalism", is its own MAGA brand of "commie bastard capitalism" (to coin a phrase), masquerading as capitalism, when corruption, theft and the looting of public coffers, goes unchecked by gullible Republicans, blinded by fake Christian nationalism, that ignores the social democratic processes that capitalism lives in.[/QUOTE]So this is the Democratic answer to Democrats literally quoting the communist manifesto as part of their platform? We are not the communists. The Republicans are! LOL. Oh, and the Republicans are Nazis too! And racists too!
That the Communists and Nazis fought the deadliest war the world has ever known does not bother the Democratic douche. Communists are bad and so are Nazis so they must be Republican!
Then there was Trump as a bad businessman trope. That Trump made billions with Truth Social after you dumbshit Democratic douches had him banned from Twitter is something you all still will not touch with a 10 foot pole. Your defense is blind arrogance. I am not going to waste my time discussing that with some MAGA idiot like you Elvis!
While you Democratic all are busy jerking yourselves off, you seem to miss that the choice of many Americans is between which party is less crazy and on that score, you Dems win hands down.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078141]The Iran deal was a joke, all other US allied countries in the region agreed on that.
You have to stop acting as a cheerleader for whatever the democrats are doing and start to think for yourself. I'm sure Obama and his administration did some good things but they truly dropped the ball on the Iran issue. As I've just said before Obama strengthened Iran and gave money for weapons and soldiers and a clear path to nuclear weapons and dominating the Middle East.
Obama didn't understand the Middle East and he didn't seem to care about it.
I'm glad to see that you're unable to debunk or prove me wrong on a single point.
Just admit that Obama messed up and stop the childish name calling against your political opponents, you can do that without voting for Trump or the next President Marco Rubio.
I'm actually sad to see that you're pretending that the Iran deal was anything but a gigantic failure. It didn't address a single issue, except the nuclear weapons which Iran didn't have and still doesn't have today.
It actually makes me angry to think about how awful the deal was.[/QUOTE]Clearly, I have debunked all of your unsubstantiated opinions that fly in the face of overwhelming evidence and easily observable reality with actual links to Real News reports time and time again.
As I did time and time again with Canada's and others unsubstantiated opinions that flew in the face of overwhelming evidence and easily observable reality.
You have to stop repeating blithering nonsense spouted by Trump and his slavishly devoted fellow lying sycophants and try reading, listening to, watching some Real News for a change and doing your own research that can actually be linked to credible reports right here any time but which you so far are obviously utterly incapable of doing.
And, no, having other MAGALoons without a shred of evidence to substantiate their own blithering unsubstantiated nonsense chiming in to agree with your unsubstantiated blithering nonsense doesn't count as links to credible reports.
[I]All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us![/I]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078143]Trump needs to end this war by ending the Iranian regime. It would be the best thing since the fall of Nazi-Germany. But everyone is so shortsighted, especially the market. Sometimes you just got to take the pain to get a better future in the long run.[/QUOTE]The problem is that regular people take the pain while they take the gain. Republicans are not interested in the betterment of life for the [B]poor[/B] (like me) or regular citizens of the Dis United States of America.
Without boots on the ground, all the leader of the Article 2 branch of the government of the Dis United States of America has done is waste lives and money. But of course they can just print more money. It is just paper and worthless.
White people could non be legally as slaves in the Dis United States of America nor in the American Colonies.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078169]We did have white slaves though. OMG, say it isn't so. White people as slaves? That must be fiction.[/QUOTE]White people were not legally enslaved as chattel in the United States or its predecessor American colonies under the institutionalized racial slavery that defined the antebellum era. Legal statutes, particularly those codified in Virginia during the late 17th century, explicitly restricted slavery to [B]African, Native American, and later mixed-race individuals[/B], while indentured servitude for white Europeans was a distinct, time-limited legal contract. Anyone who doubts this is engaged in revisionist history.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Slave_Codes_of_1705[/URL]
[B]The Defense Rests![/B]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3078194]Clearly, I have debunked all of your unsubstantiated opinions that fly in the face of overwhelming evidence and easily observable reality with actual links to Real News reports time and time again.
As I did time and time again with Canada's and others unsubstantiated opinions that flew in the face of overwhelming evidence and easily observable reality.
You have to stop repeating blithering nonsense spouted by Trump and his slavishly devoted fellow lying sycophants and try reading, listening to, watching some Real News for a change and doing your own research that can actually be linked to credible reports right here any time but which you so far are obviously utterly incapable of doing.
And, no, having other MAGALoons without a shred of evidence to substantiate their own blithering unsubstantiated nonsense chiming in to agree with your unsubstantiated blithering nonsense doesn't count as links to credible reports.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/real-reasons-why-funding-democrat-party-collapsing[/URL]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3078209][I]All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us![/I]
The problem is that regular people take the pain while they take the gain. Republicans are not interested in the betterment of life for the [B]poor[/B] (like me) or regular citizens of the Dis United States of America.
Without boots on the ground, all the leader of the Article 2 branch of the government of the Dis United States of America has done is waste lives and money. But of course they can just print more money. It is just paper and worthless.[/QUOTE]Trump, Kegsbreath and the Trump Administration civilian military "leadership" has now resorted to asking rank and file military personnel and anyine else out there with a working brain if they have any ideas for how in the world they can win Trump's Repub Forever War of Whim based on a Repub Lie in Iran.
[B]Exclusive: US military asks troops for creative and unconventional ideas to punish Iran.
Aug. 3, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/03/politics/us-military-iran-war-troops-punish[/URL]
[QUOTE]"We are looking for new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran, an officer in US Central Commands intelligence branch wrote in a message sent Wednesday to a broad group of military analysts, according to a source familiar with the message. A second source also said that a senior US military officer sent the message last week soliciting new ideas for how to deal with Iran.[/QUOTE]If Trump behaves true-to-form tten if as little as 32% of the analysts respond with anything remotely like "boots-on-the-ground" he will call a hand-picked MAGA White House "press" conference and proudly announce that the USA Military itself has overwhelmingly demanded, "everybody knows it", that he send them in country, boots-on-the-ground, to fight in actual combat with the Iranian people.
That embarrassing exercise has all the earmarks of a classic Trumpian transference of blame for his typically horrific policies and decisions results, this time blaming the rank and file military personnel for the inevitable outcome of him putting boots-on-the-ground. That's even more scurrilous and disgusting than the way Eisenhower spent 7 years fully committing our military to fighting his Vietnam War and then getting out of Dodge right before sending in ground troops would be the only option subsequent presidents had at their disposal to put an end to his Repub Forever War of Choice or start waving the white flag of surrender to Chinese Communism just 15 years after participating in the victory against Fascism in WWII.
A few days ago I asked a simple question: why do the Dems and their propaganda ministry still support Fauci? So. I waited a few days but none of the radicals on this thread could or would answer this question. Well, this is the reason and it is pretty amazing:
"So Fauci, as you know, testified last Wednesday, July 29th, took the fifth. Senate Homeland Security Committee, Rand Paul, and the reason that he had to testify was because he wrote in his diary a whole bunch of stuff that contradicted what he said in public. It's a simple story, okay?
And now everybody's mad at Fauci except the people who supported him from the beginning. And I'll prove it, of course, in a moment. So the COVID thing will be with us forever, particularly among children. It's never going to go away. Everybody's going to remember it. And then there was a division in the country about how we should react to COVID. And there were the Fauci people, and then there were the other people who didn't buy what Fauci was saying. And then a robust anti-vaccine group grew on social media. So remember all that, but I want to set the stage here. Okay, it was primarily progressive leftists that supported Fauci and the Democratic Party. Primarily, but not exclusively. Okay, so. The President of the United States at the time, Joe Biden, he loved Fauci."
"First of all, I don't trust the president (Trump) on vaccines. I trust Dr. Fauci. If Fauci says the vaccine is safe, I take the vaccine. That we should listen to the scientists, not to the president (Trump), number one. " -Joe Biden 2020.
"Listen to the scientists. I love that. Like Fauci, who now, again, writes in his private diary that what he was saying publicly was wrong, but we got to listen to the scientist, according to President Biden. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House at the time, same thing."
"Dr. Fauci is a truth teller. He's science, knowledge, evidence, data, and that's what we have to have if we're going to have a cure and not just a, I heard this works. " -Pelosi.
"Oh, so he's science, knowledge, data, but he isn't. Now, you would think that maybe Nancy Pelosi would come out. Yeah, I'm sorry, I was wrong about that. Never in a million years, never will that happen. And it wasn't, as I said, just on the left. Here's the Republican senator from Louisiana."
"I have nothing but the highest respect for Anthony Fauci. Period. End of story. Do sometimes facts on the ground change and perceptions change? Absolutely. Fauci said today that he was not the end-all. So he's bringing a certain humility to it. " Senator Cassidy (Republican).
"Yeah, humility, that's good. He's lying about it. Now Cassidy is out. He ran into trouble with Trump and lost the primary. And so he's gone. I don't know what that has anything to do with Fauci. So, the media, then the left-wing media, throws in with Fauci, a hundred percent. CNN, MSNBC, all the networks. Fauci's science, that was the science, oh yeah, yeah. Now Fox didn't know what to do. They didn't know what to do. So they were kind of like back and forth, but there wasn't like, it wasn't like a MAGA movement. Fox was behind that, but back then executives didn't know what to tell the talent, so Fox is all over the place.
But right after Fauci testified last week, here's what the socialist Lawrence O'Donnell said on MS".
"Republican senators disgraced themselves today, attacking the man who saved lives, possibly millions of lives, during the COVID-19 outbreak. The man who helped speed the development of a vaccine because of the research that he had led and supported on exactly that kind of virus for years before the outbreak of the pandemic in anticipation of exactly the kind of pandemic that hit the world in 2020. " -O'Donnell.
"That is such a lie, it's staggering. Number one, President Trump was responsible for the vaccine. Operation Warp Speed, not Anthony Fauci. Fauci didn't have anything to do with it. Number two, possibly millions of lives? How do you back that up? How do you back that up? You can't back it up. Because Fauci was throwing out everything every day, this, you got to do this, got to do that. A lot of it didn't work. The big one for me was European schools open, not American schools. Okay, so I mean, these people are just so far out there. I know they believe what they want to believe, and that's universal, but come on. So, why? Why is the progressive movement so enamored with Anthony Fauci? Not about Fauci, it's about larger government. This is important. The federal government is to the progressives a playground. The movement today is to wipe out all restraints on spending. That's today's movement from the progressives. We don't want any limits on spending. None. The progressives want a giant federal government to tell all of us what to do, how to do it, what we can have, what we cannot have. That's communism. That's what they want. I don't care what they call themselves, that is exactly what they want. They wanted a federal government to tell them what to do during COVID, and Fauci was the face of that. That is why it was almost 100% support for the man and continues to be. You don't see anybody saying, ah, you know, I'm disappointed in Fauci. He was a charlatan."
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078260]A few days ago I asked a simple question: why do the Dems and their propaganda ministry still support Fauci? So. I waited a few days but none of the radicals on this thread could or would answer this question. Well, this is the reason and it is pretty amazing:
"So Fauci, as you know, testified last Wednesday, July 29th, took the fifth. Senate Homeland Security Committee, Rand Paul, and the reason that he had to testify was because he wrote in his diary a whole bunch of stuff that contradicted what he said in public. It's a simple story, okay?
And now everybody's mad at Fauci except the people who supported him from the beginning. And I'll prove it, of course, in a moment. So the COVID thing will be with us forever, particularly among children. It's never going to go away. Everybody's going to remember it. And then there was a division in the country about how we should react to COVID. And there were the Fauci people, and then there were the other people who didn't buy what Fauci was saying. And then a robust anti-vaccine group grew on social media. So remember all that, but I want to set the stage here. Okay, it was primarily progressive leftists that supported Fauci and the Democratic Party. Primarily, but not exclusively. Okay, so. The President of the United States at the time, Joe Biden, he loved Fauci."
"First of all, I don't trust the president (Trump) on vaccines. I trust Dr. Fauci. If Fauci says the vaccine is safe, I take the vaccine. That we should listen to the scientists, not to the president (Trump), number one. " -Joe Biden 2020.
"Listen to the scientists. I love that. Like Fauci, who now, again, writes in his private diary that what he was saying publicly was wrong, but we got to listen to the scientist, according to President Biden. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House at the time, same thing."
"Dr. Fauci is a truth teller. He's science, knowledge, evidence, data, and that's what we have to have if we're going to have a cure and not just a, I heard this works. " -Pelosi.
"Oh, so he's science, knowledge, data, but he isn't. Now, you would think that maybe Nancy Pelosi would come out. Yeah, I'm sorry, I was wrong about that. Never in a million years, never will that happen. And it wasn't, as I said, just on the left. Here's the Republican senator from Louisiana."
"I have nothing but the highest respect for Anthony Fauci. Period. End of story. Do sometimes facts on the ground change and perceptions change? Absolutely. Fauci said today that he was not the end-all. So he's bringing a certain humility to it. " Senator Cassidy (Republican).
"Yeah, humility, that's good. He's lying about it. Now Cassidy is out. He ran into trouble with Trump and lost the primary. And so he's gone. I don't know what that has anything to do with Fauci. So, the media, then the left-wing media, throws in with Fauci, a hundred percent. CNN, MSNBC, all the networks. Fauci's science, that was the science, oh yeah, yeah. Now Fox didn't know what to do. They didn't know what to do. So they were kind of like back and forth, but there wasn't like, it wasn't like a MAGA movement. Fox was behind that, but back then executives didn't know what to tell the talent, so Fox is all over the place.[/QUOTE]You say you asked that question a few days ago. I have gone to your posts and tried to find the one where you asked that question but didn't find it. Can you break with your tradition and actually post a link to something, this time to your own post where you asked that question?
This is the only post of yours that I could find were you asked a simple question, but it isn't the one you cited here and, although I am far from being a radical, I did reply to it. Maybe I missed the one you're talking about now. So please provide a link to that post so I can read all of it in context. Thank you.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077599]"Anthony Fauci killed people with his lies about the vaccine" but the left don't want to hear about it. Why?[/QUOTE]Otherwise, good gawd, man, I have posted and linked actual Factcheck reports totally debunking Rand Paul's lies and twisting of the facts related to Fauci's countless responses under oath to countless previous Congressional hearings asking the same questions over and over as well as how Rand Paul ignores blatantly obvious context in Fauci's diary that does not refute what Fauci said publicly at all or reveal a "lie" or any other "revelation" about Fauci's position that he ever hid. Those would already answer the question you're asking here now even if you didn't ask it before or I didn't catch it.
Instead, I am the one that never got a reply from you or anyone else to my simple request several days ago to please cite and quote whatever the supposed "lie" or "revelation" in his diary that has caused MAGALoons' heads to explode. I never got your reply to that.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3077786]Would you or some other MAGALoon here please quote one or two Covid-related "lies" or "revelations" shockingly discovered in Fauci's diary but has been known for years that has you numbskulls' heads exploding?
I have been waiting, waiting, waiting to hear it or read it and so far it has gone missing as much as that 350 foot gash in the bottom of the Reflecting Pool Trump swore he saw himself.
Ok. Just one will do. But please make it the most horrible one as far as MAGALoons are concerned.
Was it the part where he said Barbra Streisand contacted him to ask some questions about vaccines?[/QUOTE]Have you got anything for that yet?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078169]My English teacher's first assigment to us was the Odyssey and he made the case that there never has been literature ever as good, so it is hard to screw things up when you have good source material.
Of course, the PC / DEI elements bugged me. Nolan literally made up a trans character called Sinon to show a white man being cruel to her / him. Of course, Helen of Troy, the most beautiful woman in the world, had to be black as did her sister. She had to tell off her husband and Athena had to be half black..[/QUOTE]I haven't seen the film, but good review. I am so sick of some of the DEI shit and the trans character was a little over the top for me.
But some of the themes did have a modern interesting touch. I actually liked that Helen was black, and in the original Odyssey there were black Aithopians / Ethiopians, so its not entirely unreasonable to think a beautiful black woman in a land of whites could be treasured for being seen as exotic. Fuck, we are all mongers here and variety is most certainly the spice of life LOL. My problem was, they didn't pick a truly beautiful black woman, like in Mad Max Beyond Thunder Dome, Tina Turner was legit amazing on many different levels, or Pam Grier, Whitney Houston, etc. They could have picked a hotter and more talented Helen of Troy to do the film justice. And even this Zendaya chick is kinda scrawny and just has a miserable look on her face all the time, I just don't see the talent or beauty in her.
Something else I think us older guys also have to come to terms with is, our day in the sun has passed and these new films coming out are not made for us. They are made for the new generation of viewers and reflects the themes and characters they want to see in films. Not my cup of tea at all, but now I get why my dad never watch a single film made past the mid seventies, he was old school and that shit just wasn't part of his generation. I will say I think there is a much bigger difference between the films being made today and those of twenty years ago or so.
They are not taking it too well!
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3078342]Something else I think us older guys also have to come to terms with is, our day in the sun has passed and these new films coming out are not made for us. They are made for the new generation of viewers and reflects the themes and characters they want to see in films.[/QUOTE]This is a good think. I hope the same thing happens in [B]American Politics[/B] where individuals like AOC, individuals like here take over the levers of power.
Whenever a [B]Strong Black Man[/B] beats a White Man fair and square they scream that DEI [B]male bovine excrement[/B] every time.
The Current Secretary of War is unqualified to hold the position. What do you call that?
A three star white man replaced a Four Star Black Man as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. What do you call that?
[B]Check ball![/B]
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3078213][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/real-reasons-why-funding-democrat-party-collapsing[/URL][/QUOTE]Trump is not god, but just a crazy guy playing with our world, I make war, I stop war, and you pay. Just putting shame on USA now seen like robbers. USA really have to stop him in November, when more than 60% are against him. Wake up USA, don t let him fuck elections with his corruption for everything.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3078374]They are not taking it too well!
This is a good think. I hope the same thing happens in [B]American Politics[/B] where individuals like AOC, individuals like here take over the levers of power.
Whenever a [B]Strong Black Man[/B] beats a White Man fair and square they scream that DEI [B]male bovine excrement[/B] every time.
The Current Secretary of War is unqualified to hold the position. What do you call that?
A three star white man replaced a Four Star Black Man as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. What do you call that?[/QUOTE]Of course I am upset LOL! I just want to enjoy movies again without ugly female stars that Hollywood is trying to convince me are hot, or women playing men on screen LOL!
Can I just watch a normal movie about a good story with some political bull shit in it? Remember those days? Back when movies were just entertaining stories instead of semi-propaganda pieces.
And that's fine if a black man wins a fair contest over a white boy. I ain't never lost once to a black man in anything though. Not in the street, field, table, or the mat! Haha.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078260]A few days ago I asked a simple question: why do the Dems and their propaganda ministry still support Fauci? So. I waited a few days but none of the radicals on this thread could or would answer this question. Well, this is the reason and it is pretty amazing:
"So Fauci, as you know, testified last Wednesday, July 29th, took the fifth. Senate Homeland Security Committee, Rand Paul, and the reason that he had to testify was because he wrote in his diary a whole bunch of stuff that contradicted what he said in public. It's a simple story, okay?
And now everybody's mad at Fauci except the people who supported him from the beginning. And I'll prove it, of course, in a moment. So the COVID thing will be with us forever, particularly among children. It's never going to go away. Everybody's going to remember it. And then there was a division in the country about how we should react to COVID. And there were the Fauci people, and then there were the other people who didn't buy what Fauci was saying. And then a robust anti-vaccine group grew on social media. So remember all that, but I want to set the stage here. Okay, it was primarily progressive leftists that supported Fauci and the Democratic Party. Primarily, but not exclusively. Okay, so. The President of the United States at the time, Joe Biden, he loved Fauci."
"First of all, I don't trust the president (Trump) on vaccines. I trust Dr. Fauci. If Fauci says the vaccine is safe, I take the vaccine. That we should listen to the scientists, not to the president (Trump), number one. " -Joe Biden 2020..[/QUOTE]It's worth repeating since people have faulty memories or don't know their history: Ronald Reagan did not have a problem with Fauci, so why is he a problem now?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3078342]I actually liked that Helen was black, and in the original Odyssey there were black Aithopians / Ethiopians, so its not entirely unreasonable to think a beautiful black woman in a land of whites could be treasured for being seen as exotic. Fuck, we are all mongers here and variety is most certainly the spice of life LOL. My problem was, they didn't pick a truly beautiful black woman[/QUOTE]This is how Homer described Helen, "white arms, fair skin and blonde hair", so you could make the case that even having Elizabeth Taylor play her as she did once was miscasting.
That is not what bugged me though. Nolan got the character wrong. This is how she was portrayed, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS27JJAEOWU[/URL]
She is this supposedly strong woman, the boss babe and to me, it was like, "I am not going to war for this beetch."
I have actually seen an instance in real life of how Helen of Troy was portrayed by Homer. There were two rival gangs, and this super hot chick was flirting with both gang leaders, and they shot each other up because of it. It was like both sides were saying, "We want the hottest chick as our queen" as it added to their gang's status.
So after they do this, I actually see the woman, and she is stunning, and she talks to both leaders and says something like, "y'all really shouldn't be shooting yourselves up over l'il ol' me". But there was this little joy, this little smile about her and I thought to myself that this hottie fucking loved it that men were going to war over her. It was the ultimate expression of female power but draped up to be female compassion.
That is what I described a 10 to be, a woman so stunning that she drives both sexes crazy. I saw a 10 at a club smile at a woman's boyfriend, and the girlfriend came after the 10 with a high heeled shoe. Look at how Will Smith reacted when he perceived his 10 was under attack. It is absurd to think a female 10 does not have power. She may have more than anyone in society.
So the offense to me was the same as when I went to Target and in the lingerie section, they put up these fat, ghetto, toothless black women as models. It is not the race. They are plenty of black 10's, and I would not have been offended at all if they would have put up photos of them. What irks me is the feminists demand that Target put up as models these ugly women and call it racist if we are offended by them.
So yeah, put up the female 10, even a black female 10, but get the theme right. "y'all really shouldn't have launched a thousand ships and gone to war for 10 years over l'il ol' me."
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3078459]And that's fine if a black man wins a fair contest over a white boy.[/QUOTE]Is this possible? During my life time in the Dis United States of America I never engaged in a fair contest with a White Boy. They always cheated. But even if they had the Confederate Flag hanging in their Ram Pickup truck or on a patch on their jacket riding their Harley-Davidson while having their ***** sing [I]Dixie[/I] it didn't stop me.
[QUOTE]All I do is win, win, win, no matter what (What?)
Got money on my mind, I can never get enough ('Nough)
And every time I step up in the building, everybody hands go up
And they stay there (Yeah)
And they say, "Yeah" (Yeah), and they stay there[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3078459]I ain't never lost once to a black man in anything though. Not in the street, field, table, or the mat! Haha.[/QUOTE]During my life, I've handed plenty of White Boys defeat. On the baseball field, basketball court, football pitch, Tennis Court, Track and Field, Exam Room, Board Room, Firearms Range, and on the street; every street in the Dis United States of America.
But getting back to the actual subject of the thread: [B]American Politics[/B].
The Article 1 and Article 2 branch of government of the United States of America is too old for my personal tastes and too white.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/01/16/age-and-generation-in-the-119th-congress-somewhat-younger-with-fewer-boomers-and-more-gen-xers/[/URL]
[URL]https://australianpolitics.com/usa/president/ages-of-us-presidents/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3078515]Is this possible? During my life time in the Dis United States of America I never engaged in a fair contest with a White Boy. They always cheated. But even if they had the Confederate Flag hanging in their Ram Pickup truck or on a patch on their jacket riding their Harley-Davidson while having their ***** sing [I]Dixie[/I] it didn't stop me.
During my life, I've handed plenty of White Boys defeat. On the baseball field, basketball court, football pitch, Tennis Court, Track and Field, Exam Room, Board Room, Firearms Range, and on the street; every street in the Dis United States of America.
But getting back to the actual subject of the thread: [B]American Politics[/B].
The Article 1 and Article 2 branch of government of the United States of America is too old for my personal tastes and too white.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/01/16/age-and-generation-in-the-119th-congress-somewhat-younger-with-fewer-boomers-and-more-gen-xers/[/URL]
[URL]https://australianpolitics.com/usa/president/ages-of-us-presidents/[/URL][/QUOTE]If you ain't cheating, you aint trying. C'Mon. Didn't you see Trump's speech on Hilary's taxes?
I am going to leave the politics to you guys to fight over, Iran has made me totally sick of it all.
But dam, can Hollywood just start making decent movies again? Not that I would ever watch supergirl, but that chick was fucking down right nasty and that's the girl their going to invest a 300-400 million dollar movie on? I don't know, I don't get it.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3078374]They are not taking it too well!
This is a good think. I hope the same thing happens in [B]American Politics[/B] where individuals like AOC, individuals like here take over the levers of power.
Whenever a [B]Strong Black Man[/B] beats a White Man fair and square they scream that DEI [B]male bovine excrement[/B] every time.
The Current Secretary of War is unqualified to hold the position. What do you call that?
A three star white man replaced a Four Star Black Man as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. What do you call that?
[B]Check ball![/B][/QUOTE]I think safer to be white than black in USA and even when under others than Trump.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3078389]Trump is not god, but just a crazy guy playing with our world, I make war, I stop war, and you pay. Just putting shame on USA now seen like robbers. USA really have to stop him in November, when more than 60% are against him. Wake up USA, don t let him fuck elections with his corruption for everything.[/QUOTE]When stupid Trump lost his war: inflation, Ormuz blocked since months, but still mollahs now dealing with Oman, not with Trump only dumb can trust, and would be funny if claimed powerful USA by bad clown Trump missed bullets to make his war.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3078538]If you ain't cheating, you aint trying. C'Mon. Didn't you see Trump's speech on Hilary's taxes?[/QUOTE]Yes I did. Here it is:
[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/NR8oEmsH_Tg?si=aj69ABNOhDk9t5m6[/URL]
He is keeping real!
The Tax Code is written for people who have capital and invest it. If you are [B]poor[/B] like me then you don't get any benefits from tax code. All you get is ass raped without lube by the IRS.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078178]So this is the Democratic answer to Democrats literally quoting the communist manifesto as part of their platform? We are not the communists. The Republicans are! LOL. Oh, and the Republicans are Nazis too! And racists too!
That the Communists and Nazis fought the deadliest war the world has ever known does not bother the Democratic douche. Communists are bad and so are Nazis so they must be Republican! [/QUOTE]Since the Republicans, under your MAGA Fuhrer rule, have adopted a communist style administration, then the communist shoe fits!
As more nonsensical anti-woke and anti-DEI MAGA absurdity, finds it way into the comic book annuals of American political history, under the MAGA Fuhrer, the latest claims from the dumbass MAGA administration is truly a head-scratcher, for the ages.
[B]US push to defund DEI bike lanes will make roads less safe, advocates say. Trump administration boasts of cutting $1.73bn already allocated for cycling improvements to city streets.[/B] Jul 30th, 2026. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/30/bike-lanes-defund-trump-administration-dei[/URL].
[NOPARSE]Sean Duffy, U.S. DOT secretary of transport, had in the past called cyclist and pedestrian pathways, to be DEI...LOL! Today, just recently, the U.S. DOT secretary, in his wacky loony tunes ideological and nonsensical insane MAGA decision making, has metastasized into some truly head-scratching policies, as he decides to drop cycling lanes from the Federal Highway Administrations list of Proven Safety Countermeasures.
Yeah hey,...who needs pedestrian walkways and cycle lanes, or indeed life-saving safety measures that are proven to reduce fatalities by 26% and crashes by up to 53%. [/NOPARSE] [B]No, that would be too WOKE![/B].
Remember the time, when dumbass anti-woke Repubs staunchly repelled seat-belts in vehicles, largely on the grounds of "personal freedom" and "government overreach", by the anti-work mob conservative voices. See where we're going with this?
[B]P.S.: [/B] MAGA Fuhrer corruption tracker: [URL]https://trumpcorruptiontracker.com/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078640]Since the Republicans, under your MAGA Fuhrer rule, have adopted a communist style administration, then the communist shoe fits![/QUOTE]Meanwhile in reality the Democrats have gone full blown islamists and communists.
This will not end well. The polarization of American politics is quickly reaching new disastrous levels.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3078629]Yes I did. Here it is:
[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/NR8oEmsH_Tg?si=aj69ABNOhDk9t5m6[/URL]
He is keeping real!
The Tax Code is written for people who have capital and invest it. If you are [B]poor[/B] like me then you don't get any benefits from tax code. All you get is ass raped without lube by the IRS.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B][/QUOTE]Poor people will always benefit from the taxation system.
If the taxes are too high or to low for people of a certain income bracket is another question.
But it seems a bit sanctimonious to cash in your welfare checks while complaining over how the "rich" aren't giving you enough of their money.
With that said it's hard to deny that there are some extremely rich people in the US.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]Poor people will always benefit from the taxation system.[/QUOTE]Explain the reasoning behind your opinion. Facts and data are always helpful.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]If the taxes are too high or to low for people of a certain income bracket is another question.[/QUOTE]If the government of the Dis United States of America prints the money, why do they need to collect taxes in the first place? Why doesn't the government of the Dis United States of America just print the money it needs instead of stealing mine?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]But it seems a bit sanctimonious to cash in your welfare checks while complaining over how the "rich" aren't giving you enough of their money.[/QUOTE]I guess you are speaking from experience. Because I don't know nothing about the particular experience that you referencing. Who cashes checks anymore these days?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3076335]Let's talk Bonds.
Bonds are for people who have already made money and are simply looking to collect rent and preserve their capital. Let's say I want to generate 10,000 a month income in order to retire to Thailand, because I am a ungrateful crybaby who has given nothing back to my fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America. That would make me a Rich, Racist Republican.
[U]Generating $10,000 per month (or $120,000 per year) in income using only US Treasury bonds[/U] requires a principal investment of approximately $2. 53 million to $2. 54 million, depending on the bond yield. Based on recent rates cited in March 2025, where 20-year T-bonds offered 4. 750% and 30-year T-bonds offered 4. 625%, the required capital is calculated as follows:
At 4.750% yield: You need $2,526,316 invested to generate $120,000 annually.
At 4.625% yield: You need $2,594,595 invested to generate $120,000 annually.[/QUOTE]The welfare payments you receive. [B]I fund them[/B]. I am taxed on my worldwide income as a citizen of the Dis United States of America no matter where I am posted up in the world. If you are living in the Dis United States of America you are living on my tax dollars that I get zero benefit from but still pay. [B]Put that in your pipe and smoke it![/B]!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]With that said it's hard to deny that there are some extremely rich people in the US.[/QUOTE]This is a understatement my man. Check out this article.
[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-wealth-gap-widest-in-three-decades-federal-reserve/[/URL]
Wealth inequality in the United States has reached its widest gap in more than three decades, with the top 1% of households holding 31.7% of all USA Wealth as of the third quarter of 2025. This concentration amounts to approximately $55 trillion, roughly equal to the combined wealth of the bottom 90% of Americans.
[B]Check Ball![/B]
[QUOTE=Spidy;3076117]Clueless as usual![/QUOTE]Even if comments where I blow you dumb Dems off the roof without any name calling like I did with batteries. It is ridiculous, but your post about batteries was so pathetic it deserved a second response.
In the latest episode of pretzel twisting, you called the Republicans communist to compensate for Dems literally reading from the Communist Manifesto, and this post, where you are slobbering all over China, is just more of the same. In fact, China is the country you Democratic douches wish you could be: one party rule, state run economy, politicians picking candidates versus the public. It is just you all lie your asses off of and won't own it. You lie and say Republicans are the real communists not us Dems. Get the fuck out of here!
This sodium battery is your latest China jerk off. China is this electro not petrostate and they have the batteries to prove it. LOL. Never mind that China is the largest polluter in the world. Never mind that their electrostate bullshit is pure propaganda. Suckers like you eat it up.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3076117]So Elvis 2008, riddle me this, if your so called power deficiency assumptions on sodium-ion batteries are correct...why are sodium-ion battery in trucks, completing successful 15,000 km real world tests and look posed for deployment in China?[/QUOTE]And here we go again. Competing huh? Here are two power stations. This is the sodium one: [URL]https://*******.com/3buj8kj8A[/URL]
And a competing Lithium battery that has more juice than the sodium one at half the cost: [URL]http://********/i658101[/URL].
Just looking at the specs, the lithium battery has more juice, is seven pounds lighter, and is half the price. Is that any reason for you to be having orgasms about sodium batteries?
When you look at the head to head, the sodium battery is not even that much more impressive in the cold than Lithium. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9k8dsApWIM[/URL]
You electrical purists cannot accept the notion that batteries do not work that well in the cold so you say, "let's find one that does". It kills me. Here we go again. You all cannot be happy with a 90% reduction. No, it has to be 100%. All gasoline cars must die! LOL. This is so stupid. There is no realism with you Democratic douches and your power generation. None!
In the mean time, I finally, finally found someone to put a second AC in my RV. They also rigged up a plug for the second AC unit. The included generator got the first AC unit cranking without issue. The generator powers an AC outlet, and I plugged in the second AC unit from the AC outlet on the RV and it worked but the generator made a haunting sound so I unplugged the second AC unit.
I have paid $5000 for Lithium batteries to run the AC. I plugged in the AC unit from the 12 volt, 15 AMP outlet on the power station and the AC would not even come on. LOL. I could not believe it. I have paid $5000 for Lithium batteries to run the AC, and so far, it is a total miss. The power station does have a 30 AMP outlet, and I will try that tomorrow. As of now, the AC unit is plugged into a shore outlet and the second AC is running like a champ. My fantasy of having a RV with two AC units to tame the Texas heat is now a reality.
Thing is the batteries were not charging all that great when using the plug powered by the generator. I got from 50 to 60% charged over six hours. Plugging into the shore power and I went from 60 to 100% in two hours.
I talked to the installer about solar panels to charge the power station and he thought it would take two days to charge the power station from solar panels and did not recommend it.
The only issue now is what to do if there is no outlet. What kills me is I was so certain that I could run a second AC off of batteries even when everyone said I could not. The issue is what do I do now if the batteries do not work and I have no access to shore power.
The answer was so stupid I am kicking myself. If you want a second AC unit, you just get a second generator. This one is $450 and my bet is that it will work better and longer than the $5000 of batteries.
[URL]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BS7B3YMG?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1[/URL]
It just kills me though that you Democratic douches cannot be happy with reductions. EVs have their place. They work great when driving around cities, have less than a 100 miles a day of driving, and you can plug in at night. When you start talking about going long distances, EVs suck ass. They cannot compete with internal combustion engines, but you climate change nuts insist we have to have EVs for everything.
2026 is not the year of the battery not even fucking close. I paid $5000 for batteries and I am not sure how or when I am going to use them. The generators work so much better, and it is not close.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078668]But it seems a bit sanctimonious to cash in your welfare checks while complaining over how the "rich" aren't giving you enough of their money.[/QUOTE]I see you feel very strongly about people who do not have as much money as you do.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3076913][u]It's good that we have money in abundance,[/u] maybe you should save the little money you have instead of spending on it girls that [b]the white man[/b] can do better?[/QUOTE]Can you give the context behind this statement? Because from my perspective it doesn't look to good. Seems to support what I say about Republicans up in this thread.
Is it true that you think you are better than others who have less money than you do?
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
Didn't Trump just call credible news sources "fake news" for asking him questions about his typically crap Repub policy economic results that he would much rather they describe as "The Greatest Ecomomy Ever, as everybody knows, especially his greatest ever jobs creation"?
LOL. Trump just gave himself an [B]A+[/B] on his economy.
Uh.
Well, I suppose since he has yet to plunge America into the second Recession of his presidency, his economic grade might very well be an [B]A+[/B] compared to most other Repub so-called presidents. But certainly not compared to any ordinary Dem President of at least the past 100 years, especially Joe Biden.
The only question about Repub Trump's economy and jobs numbers is whether or not Repub Donald J. Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his economic policies and stewardship having failed to create so much as one single net gain private-sector job compared to when he first took office or will it be a net loss of about a million private-sector jobs or will it be a loss of many, many more than a million private-sector jobs.
[B]U.S. economy unexpectedly lost 23,000 jobs in July.
July 7, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/07/jobs-report-july-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Nonfarm payrolls fell by a seasonally adjusted 23,000 for the month, compared with a downwardly revised 20,000 for June. The Dow Jones consensus forecast had been looking for a gain of 83,000.
At the same time, the unemployment slipped to 4.1% as the labor force participation rate fell further to 61.4%, its lowest in more than five years, another indication that fewer Americans were working or looking for jobs.
In addition to the weak numbers for June and July, the final count for May was revised down to 63,000, or 66,000 lower than the prior estimate. The revised numbers brought the 12-month average down to just 34,000.[/QUOTE]Imagine how bad the reported numbers would be if the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics' employees hadn't been threatened with getting fired and losing their jobs in this typically horrific Repub economy jobs market if they didn't report better numbers than Trump's classic Repub policies were actually producing.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078171]According to him he already ended the regime. We took out a few layers of it, but then the next wave espousing the same views (or even worse) stepped into place. That's not regime change. That's causing the enemy to just dig in even deeper. I'm not a big proponent of regime change anyway. How well did that turn out for us in Iraq and Afghanistan? Even in Venezuela we didn't get true regime change. Short of total war and complete annihilation (Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan for example), which comes at a terrible price on all sides, regime change doesn't seem to be working out too well. I'm more for "behavioral modification" in most cases than I am for regime change. Make it hurt enough, and the enemy will change its behavior. Trump's problem is that he's acting like he can deal with these people like he's trying to get a Manhattan real estate deal or something! Once we started, we should not have stopped until the job was done. Don't just talk about it.[/QUOTE]That's one of the most disgusting posts I've read lately. You're openly advocating for the use of a weapon of mass killing because these people are defending themselves against a disgusting and illegal aggression from your country? If you had an once of knowledge you would have known that the usage of gas is [B]prohibited in war under international law[/B]since last century. Your post is also filled with inaccuracies, for instance, Irak used mustard gas and sarin from the early days of their war imposed on Iran in the eighties, and Iran still fought back for 8 years against an opponent using illegal weapons of mass killing, so it seems they still didn't get your memo that these guys only understand the usage of force. That's a non negligible sign that Black or White, Americans are all the same, just a bunch of supremacists who can't stand other peoples fighting them back.
We in the world outside of the US, have been eating popcorn while watching the [B]US terrorist Army[/B] get their asses whopped in the middle east in these last few months. And we can't express how much we're happy to see their dirty asses getting kicked off an area they have been wreaking havoc these last twenty years and from where they don't even belong to.
All of this thanks to Donald Jerusalem Epstein The Great, could you believe it? You, the [B]Black American Supremacist[/B]?The first openly admitted American Supremacist President and all of a sudden you lose all your beloved terrorist bases in the middle east in a matter of five months. We're glad we've witnessed it live because there's little doubt your fabulous Hollywood filmmakers are going to distort reality and teach our kids the US was the good guy in this mess.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078719]I have paid $5000 for Lithium batteries to run the AC. I plugged in the AC unit from the 12 volt, 15 AMP outlet on the power station and the AC would not even come on.
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2026 is not the year of the battery not even fucking close. I paid $5000 for batteries and I am not sure how or when I am going to use them. The generators work so much better, and it is not close.[/QUOTE]I wasn't quite sure what Elvis 2008's latest round of fossil fuel woes are, trying to solve powering his RV air conditioner, heater and appliances, (last I checked you were getting free gas propane, but only in certain parts of Texas). But I'm sure you still realize the sun is also free and shines freely in all 50 states.
But [NOPARSE]alas, there maybe no getting over "renewable intermittency syndrome"...but thanks for the latest [/NOPARSE]update! [I]Again, no shame in using diesel generators to solve your RV problems,[/I] if that solution fits the bill.
[B]Meanwhile,[/B] for [NOPARSE]those who can figure out how to use and implement battery tech successfully, and have embraced solar panels on their recreational vehicles or small boats, will be going without shore power for days on end...if needing it at [/NOPARSE]all.
Take YouTubers from the channel, Sailing Uma, are just finishing up their 18 month rebuild of their small sailing boat and in episodes 490 to 492, they've managed to outfit and install a massive 3. 6 kW solar array (on the deck, dodger and haul), along with a installed 50 kWh Li-ion battery bank, all on their tiny 36-foot sailboat. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRr0lfPSanI[/URL].
[U]NO diesel backup generator needed[/U], just good ol' wind in your sails, sunshine in your solar panels and free clean renewable energy in your Li-ion batteries.
The point of this post, is to show that clean electrotech is advancing to solve your recreational needs, if you're willing to take off the fossil fuel shackles and blinders.
2026 The Year of the Battery [I](...for some...LOL!)[/I]
A Texas startup called Base Power, has introduced surprisingly new battery payment scheme and a cleaver adaptive way of selling energy / power, back to the grid, in what some pundits say, could signal the end for gas-peaker plants.
Base Power (TX), is offering a up to a 78.4 kWh home backup battery (roughly three times the capacity of a standard Tesla Powerwall 3), for for a tiny upfront cost of $95 to $695, plus a $19 monthly fee. The system pays for itself by allowing the company to sell excess stored energy back to the grid, giving homeowners affordable multi-day outage protection.
[B][i]Electrek[/i] - Base Power raises $1B to roll out its giant new home battery,[/B] Aug 4th, 2026. Base Power has just unveiled Core, a supersized 39.2-kWh home battery that it says can keep a house running for up to 36 hours and be installed in under an hour. [URL]https://electrek.co/2026/08/03/base-power-raises-1b-to-roll-out-its-giant-new-home-battery/[/URL].
According to Base Power, they genuinely see the home battery, [B]not as a solar accessory, but instead as [u]grid infrastructure,[/u][/B] saving the home owners 20% or more on their power bills. Great idea, although very puzzling, as to why investors, are valuing the company at US $13 billion dollars.
2026 the Year of the Battery.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3078808]That's one of the most disgusting posts I've read lately. You're openly advocating for the use of a weapon of mass killing because these people are defending themselves against a disgusting and illegal aggression from your country? If you had a once of knowledge you would have known that the usage of gas is [B]prohibited in war under international law[/B]since last century.[/QUOTE]And absolutely ready for such a typical response! First of all, I'm well aware of what international law is around this. And second, how about you actually try reading and comprehending exactly what I said and stop putting words into my mouth? I did not call for the use of gas! I specifically said there was no need to go that far. I used it as an example of taking enough action to inflict enough pain to get the enemy to change its behavior, something that so far Trump hasn't shown the balls to do. As much as I can't stand Netanyahu, I know he has the balls (look at Gaza now). And I did not limit inflicting the pain through just weaponry, but also through economics and diplomacy! Bring enough military, diplomatic, and economic pain to truly have the enemy begging for peace rather than lying to the American people about that. That's what I said, but in your hysteria you choose to try to make my words into something else. But they are clear. We don't need gas (I said that). We don't need nukes. But we do need to bring enough pain to make the enemy say enough is enough and start bargaining in good faith rather than trying to hold on to their secret, not so secret, nuclear weapons program while spreading terror throughout the region and broader world. Rather than doing that, the crooked zealots of Iran ought to be spending all that money on bettering the lives of their own people versus killing 10's of thousands of their own! What was that you were saying about "mass destruction"? I think the religious zealots in Iran know plenty about that, and they are hanging on for dear life, because they know if their regime falls? They will die at the hands of their own people for their heinous crimes! As bad as things may be for us, they will always be 1,000 times worse for Iran in any armed conflict. Keep fucking around and push the West to its limits, and Tehran will end up like Persepolis. Burned to the ground! I don't care if you like what I say or not. But, I never let anyone tell lies about what I said. I did not advocate for the use of gas. I advocated for the use of sufficient (military, economic, diplomatic) force to get the enemy to change its behavior. And we don't need weapons of mass destruction to do that. The evil ayatollahs of Iran have already brought enough mass destruction to their own people by killing 10's of thousands of them in the streets for demanding a freer and better Iran.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3078808]Your post is also filled with inaccuracies, for instance, Irak used mustard gas and sarin from the early days of their war imposed on Iran in the eighties, and Iran still fought back for 8 years against an opponent using illegal weapons of mass killing, so it seems they still didn't get your memo that these guys only understand the usage of force. That's a non negligible sign that Black or White, Americans are all the same. We in the world outside of the US, have been eating popcorn. [/QUOTE]Who said gas hadn't been used at different times throughout the war? The point made was that he was willing to use it to bring the pain, and as the following excerpt from some research I looked up states, things got to the point that it was a significant reason why Iran chose to agree to stop the fighting:
"Strategically, by the end of the war Iraqi chemical warfare had crippled Iranian morale. The threat that Iraqi Scud ballistic missiles, used with conventional warheads in the conflict's war of the cities, would carry chemical weapons caused fleeing of Iranian urban areas. Alongside 1988 ground and naval defeats, this is considered one of the reasons Iran accepted the United Nations-brokered ceasefire in August 1988".
No inaccuracies about what I said. Bring enough pain, and the enemy will quit! And you don't know anything about my race or ethnicity (as I like it and as it shall remain as it's irrelevant), and I don't know why you think you do. You don't. Only my nationality is unmistakably known, so save it man! Better start popping some more popcorn though. Because this shit is far from over! We're not finished with the delusional Iranian zealots, the nature of whose murderous regime you choose to look the other away from. I say to you, who was or is worse? The Shah, who chose to leave rather than slaughter his own people to remain on the throne? Or the crooked regime of the Islamic Republic which is estimated to have killed up to 30,000 of its own people to hold onto power? Riddle us that? And you have the gall to object to "mass destruction" when the IRGC is doing that to their own populace, and yet you express no outrage over that? What disgusting hypocrisy!
Its Civil War in the Democratic Party, but is it too late to save the Democratic Party from the crazies?
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/dem-attorney-backs-gop-hopeful-michigan-race-against-el-sayed-jumping-ship-partys-lunatics[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3078778]Didn't Trump just call credible news sources "fake news" for asking him questions about his typically crap Repub policy economic results that he would much rather they describe as "The Greatest Ecomomy Ever, as everybody knows, especially his greatest ever jobs creation"?
LOL. Trump just gave himself an [B]A+[/B] on his economy.
Uh.
Well, I suppose since he has yet to plunge America into the second Recession of his presidency, his economic grade might very well be an [B]A+[/B] compared to most other Repub so-called presidents. But certainly not compared to any ordinary Dem President of at least the past 100 years, especially Joe Biden.
The only question about Repub Trump's economy and jobs numbers is whether or not Repub Donald J. Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his economic policies and stewardship having failed to create so much as one single net gain private-sector job compared to when he first took office or will it be a net loss of about a million private-sector jobs or will it be a loss of many, many more than a million private-sector jobs.
[B]U.S. economy unexpectedly lost 23,000 jobs in July.
July 7, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/07/jobs-report-july-2026.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
Imagine how bad the reported numbers would be if the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics' employees hadn't been threatened with getting fired and losing their jobs in this typically horrific Repub economy jobs market if they didn't report better numbers than Trump's classic Repub policies were actually producing.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz9NWtQ0OWQ[/URL]
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3078855][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz9NWtQ0OWQ[/URL][/QUOTE]Anyone who references MAGA Bill Maher's Trump Cult Weekly Repub Campaign Rally spin as a premise to prove a point is a bigger ill-informed numbskull than he is.
LOL. He still has no idea that school kids can indeed carry the Trump's Pandemic virus even if they were not the ones getting seriously ill or dying from it, can spread it to each other in crowded school rooms, carry it back to their parents and grandparents, who could then carry it to their friends and so on. That's why school closures were an important mitigating measure to prevent hundreds of thousands more cases of it, filling more hospitals, monopolizing more medical staff and facilities, producing more deaths from Trump's Pandemic.
And I heard on his latest show he was touting how much better Florida handled it than Blue states like California in his ongoing mission to help his beloved Repubs win elections whenever and wherever possible.
Uh. Nope-a-Dope, MAGA Bill:
[B]California vs. Florida: The surprising answer to which handled COVID better.
Nov. 27, 2023[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-vs-florida-surprising-answer-110015103.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]But in raw terms, significantly more Floridians died on a per capita basis during the COVID-19 emergency than Californians. Of the four most-populous states, California had the lowest cumulative COVID death rate: 2,560 for every 1 million residents. Florida's rate was 60% worse, with 4,044 COVID fatalities for every 1 million residents, according to a Times analysis of Johns Hopkins University data through early March, when the university ended its data tracking.[/QUOTE]BTW, got any response to my post about Trump's typically crap Repub economic and jobs creation result during his "Golden Age Economy" that you quoted here?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078832]No inaccuracies about what I said. Bring enough pain, and the enemy will quit! And you don't know anything about my race or ethnicity (as I like it and as it shall remain as it's irrelevant), and I don't know why you think you do. You don't. Only my nationality is unmistakably known, so save it man![/QUOTE]Let's see. A guy who hates Trump, has TDS, but hates Muslims so much he wishes Trump would have killed more of them. Wow, that is a Scoobie Doo mystery. I wonder who that could be. Oh wait, on the seeking forum, he is always complaining about money. Think, Elvis! This is so hard. Let me guess. Is your favorite form of bread, a croissant or a bagel? Are you more likely to find your kind in New York or Bangkok? What is your biggest holiday, Christmas or Hanukkah?
You are right. Your kind is too hard to figure out. It's not like your behavior is the most stereotypical type that there is of your type.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3078808]That's one of the most disgusting posts I've read lately. You're openly advocating for the use of a weapon of mass killing because these people are defending themselves against a disgusting and illegal aggression from your country? If you had an once of knowledge you would have known that the usage of gas is [B]prohibited in war under international law[/B]since last century. Your post is also filled with inaccuracies, for instance, Irak used mustard gas and sarin from the early days of their war imposed on Iran in the eighties, and Iran still fought back for 8 years against an opponent using illegal weapons of mass killing, so it seems they still didn't get your memo that these guys only understand the usage of force. That's a non negligible sign that Black or White, Americans are all the same, just a bunch of supremacists who can't stand other peoples fighting them back.
We in the world outside of the US, have been eating popcorn while watching the [B]US terrorist Army[/B] get their asses whopped in the middle east in these last few months. And we can't express how much we're happy to see their dirty asses getting kicked off an area they have been wreaking havoc these last twenty years and from where they don't even belong to..[/QUOTE]It's important to get the facts right, the main cause of death among young Iranians is the Iranian regime.
If you truly cared about the Iranian people you would unequivocally support the US taking out the Iranian dictatorship guilty of causing so much pain and suffering. The Iranian regime does in no way represent themselves Iranian people. They are terrorists set to destroy.
The IRGC is a terrorist organization and acknowledge as such by countries all over the world.
It's not a US thing, it's a part of being a civilized human being.
It's deeply inaccurate and shameful to call USA terrorists when we see the Iranian regime murdering young women for not covering their hair, kidnapping European citizens as a form of blackmail and terrorizing the strait of Hormusz, the Bab Al Mandeb, Saudi Arabia and the Christian people in southern Lebanon.
I don't know why anyone would support the blood thirsty Iranian dictatorship and their crimes against humanity.
You mentioned international law, yet you have decided to support a terrorist regime that only represents themselves and is aiming to destroy the world economy.
To me it's pretty clear, the Iranian people, USA, the world economy and humanity is one side. The terrorist Iranian dictatorship is on the other side.
You choose.
And I'm not even American, I'm just a European that cares enough to find out what the facts are.
The citizens of 50 African nations face have to put a bond up to 20,000 USD in order to get a visa to enter the Dis United States of America.
[URL]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/08/03/2026-15726/visas-visa-bond-program[/URL]
Documenting racism in the Dis United States of America is too easy! Why should I as a [B]Strong Black Man[/B] be appreciative. I was born with the right to speak my mind.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078832]And you don't know anything about my race or ethnicity (as I like it and as it shall remain as it's irrelevant), and I don't know why you think you do. You don't. Only my nationality is unmistakably known, so save it man! Better start popping some more popcorn though. Because this shit is far from over![/QUOTE]Newsflash! Your genius leader is about to sign the surrender paper and declare victory although the last remaining base the terrorist US army still holds is located in Ben Gurion.
I won't address the rest of your post as it is a low level copy paste of the usual Israeli propaganda, but you might start looking at some independent journalists trying to do their job instead of letting yourself being brainwashed by the dumb pornstar Caroline Lewit.
Hey Cane, who let the dogs out? Now you know what it feels like when some idiot, left wing nut job who can't read or understand English attacks you anyway. Look at the people you are in bed with: Hasan Piker, Abdul El-Sayed. Francesca Hong, Bernie Baby, Zohran Mamdani, AOC (Sandy), Rashida Tlaib to name a few. You don't have to be MAGA, just independent minded American to understand these people hate the USA and their ideas are insane.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078874]Let's see. A guy who hates Trump, has TDS, but hates Muslims so much he wishes Trump would have killed more of them. Wow, that is a Scoobie Doo mystery. I wonder who that could be. Oh wait, on the seeking forum, he is always complaining about money. Think, Elvis! This is so hard. Let me guess. Is your favorite form of bread, a croissant or a bagel? Are you more likely to find your kind in New York or Bangkok? What is your biggest holiday, Christmas or Hanukkah?
You are right. Your kind is too hard to figure out. It's not like your behavior is the most stereotypical type that there is of your type.[/QUOTE]Here we go again. Putting words in my mouth. I don't hate Muslims. I didn't say that. You said that! No, I hate terrorists! I hate religious zealots! And I hate your cult leader Donald Trump! It's not so hard to "figure me out". All you have to do is ask, then actually read and comprehend what I say (just give it a try for once)! Now, I don't believe that we should have started this war of choice. But now that we did, we need to get out of it in a way that promotes American interests. For me, that means a permanent ceasefire, freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz for all nations, and Iran thrown years and years back from having a nuclear weapon. If they want a peaceful nuclear program, then there are international protocols for that. If they don't want to follow those protocols (because they're really lying about it), OK. Then we'll just show up in so many years and destroy the nuclear infrastructure they wasted billions on versus spending that money to improve the lives of the Iranian people. The Islamic Republic doesn't give a damn about its own people. It just wants to do whatever it can to preserve its diabolical self!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078906]It's important to get the facts right, the main cause of death among young Iranians is the Iranian regime.[/QUOTE]Let me guess: you're a dual citizen, and you care more about a country on the eastern Mediterranean coast than you do about the country you're currently living in.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078938] I don't believe that we should have started this war of choice. But now that we did, we need to get out of it in a way that promotes American interests. For me, that means a permanent ceasefire, freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz for all nations, and Iran thrown years and years back from having a nuclear weapon. If they want a peaceful nuclear program, then there are international protocols for that. If they don't want to follow those protocols (because they're really lying about it), OK. Then we'll just show up in so many years and destroy the nuclear infrastructure they wasted billions on versus spending that money to improve the lives of the Iranian people. The Islamic Republic doesn't give a damn about its own people. It just wants to do whatever it can to preserve its diabolical self![/QUOTE]I have one simple question for you: which national Democrat politician other than Fetterman and a handful of others agrees with you publicly? Come on mate. It is time for you to wake up. This is not the Democrat Party of Bill Clinton! This is the DSA party now. Liberal and Progressive Democrats invited these radicals into the party because they wanted their votes thinking they could control the radicals and keep them in line apparently not realizing that once the radicals were inside the tent, the Liberals would not be able to control these fanatics. Big tent my ass. The woke communists are eating the tent. LOL! You never heard the story of the frog and the scorpion?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6YBIAR18sqc[/URL]
[URL]https://program.dsausa.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/DSA_WDM2025Program_v2.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3078913]Newsflash! Your genius leader is about to sign the surrender paper and declare victory although the last remaining base the terrorist US army still holds is located in Ben Gurion.
I won't address the rest of your post as it is a low level copy paste of the usual Israeli propaganda, but you might start looking at some independent journalists trying to do their job instead of letting yourself being brainwashed by the dumb pornstar Caroline Lewit.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but what you write is totally inaccurate, the US has military bases all over the Middle East and who the hell is Caroline Lewit?
Do you mean Karoline Leavitt? She's not a pornstar, but you're welcome to send the links to her movies if you have it.
You seem to be a bit confused, the Iranian regime is going to surrender to the US demands or the war will restart. We know that not much is left of the military capabilities of the Iranian regime, that's why the regime had to close down the Internet in a desperate attempt to stop the news of the widespread destruction of their military installations.
Your posts are full of inaccuracies which you have failed to back up with any facts whatsoever.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078914]Hey Cane, who let the dogs out? Now you know what it feels like when some idiot, left wing nut job who can't read or understand English attacks you anyway. Look at the people you are in bed with: Hasan Piker, Abdul El-Sayed. Francesca Hong, Bernie Baby, Zohran Mamdani, AOC (Sandy), Rashida Tlaib to name a few. You don't have to be MAGA, just independent minded American to understand these people hate the USA and their ideas are insane.[/QUOTE]You don't have to be a tree-hugging, left wing, progressive to detest Donald Trump and MAGA. I most certainly am not. I am a left of center Democrat though. And if there's one thing I know about my party, it's that we can show a propensity to blow it. In November, we ought to be kicking GOP ass from right to left all over the country all up and down the ballot! Instead, we put forth guys like [B]Abdulrahman Mohamed El-Sayed[/B] for Senate! It's not simply his name that's the problem. After all [B]Barack Hussein Obama[/B] had the right kind of ideas for what America should strive to be. No, it's about what El-Sayed (and all the rest of the progressive lunatics) stands for. He says one thing trying to make himself more palatable, but it's a lie! That Mamdani-infused politics might fly in New York City. But it definitely won't play in Peoria! I wish you guys would stop trying to tell me what I stand for. If you're truly interested to know, then how about trying to ask me about it first, then read what I have to say about it instead of trying to make my mind up for me by putting your words and assumptions into my mouth.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078938]Here we go again. Putting words in my mouth. I don't hate Muslims. I didn't say that.[/QUOTE]Let's go back to the replay.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078938]Trump's problem is that he's acting like he can deal with these people like he's trying to get a Manhattan real estate deal or something! Once we started, we should not have stopped until the job was done. Don't just talk about it. We're not finished with the delusional Iranian zealots, the nature of whose murderous regime you choose to look the other away from.[/QUOTE]The way you can show racism is by just flipping races. When you do so, you get this.
The problem with the Palestinians after October 7th is they acted like they can deal with these people like they are in a Manhattan real estate deal. Once they got started, they should have not have stopped until the job was done. Don't just talk about it. They should not be finished with the delusional Israeli zealots, the nature of whose murderous regime you choose to look the other way from.
This is another stereotype of your tribe. You make statements like I do not hate Muslims while advocating for killing them then scream anti-semitism when literally the same wording is applied to Jewish people. Worse than that, you express complete prejudice for your fellow Americans who vote Republicans while I have bent over backwards to describe those who vote Democrat in their own self interest are much different than the Democratic douches who believe that anyone who votes for Republican has to be a complete moron.
Given that Jews are 0. 2% of the world's population and 2% of the population of the USA, the only response to a question like, what is your favorite bread, a croissant or bagel should have been met with incredulity. The only appropriate response would have been denial, and you did not even bother with that. You literally are imagning that you are this person of great mystery.
In fact, if I looked up typical Democratic Jew with TDS in the dictionary, your photo would take up two pages. You are not some great mystery. You are literally a walking stereotype.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3078938]It's not so hard to "figure me out". All you have to do is ask, then actually read and comprehend what I say[/QUOTE]This from the guy who accuses me of parroting Trump at every turn? Now you want to have a discussion when I turn the tables on you? Tell you what. I will go first. I think Trump going to war with Iran was a mistake. Now can you do that? Can you disagree with anything the Democratic Party or Israel has done? I am holding my breath.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078960]This from the guy who accuses me of parroting Trump at every turn? Now you want to have a discussion when I turn the tables on you? Tell you what. I will go first. I think Trump going to war with Iran was a mistake. Now can you do that? Can you disagree with anything the Democratic Party or Israel has done? I am holding my breath.[/QUOTE]Ha! Except for in your own twisted mind, you haven't turned the tables on anyone! For the record, I've long ago been sick and tired of Netanyahu and his bullshit. Especially the way he disrespected President Obama. Fuck him! Israel doesn't dictate American foreign policy. If anything, it ought to be the other way around! Israel has the right to defend itself, but what happened in Gaza went too far. I don't even call it a war. It was a one-sided slaughter! Hamas was determined to defend Gaza right down to the life of the very last civilian, and Israel was obliged to assist them! I believe Netanyahu wants to keep the fighting going, including in Iran, not because it's the best thing for Israel (and definitely not for the United States), but because he believes it's the best thing for him and his politics. Delay, delay, delay having to pay the piper. So hell yes Israel, led by Netanyahu, has done plenty of things wrong! And this just scratches the surface.
Thanks for asking, even if doing so with pure sarcasm, like you already knew what my answer was going to be. You don't know. My offer for people to be truly heard and understood here is neither new nor sudden. I made it a long time ago, but yours was the same view held by RamDavidson (who made the hilariously erroneous conclusion that I support socialism). He doesn't want to try to understand my points of view he said. Because I'm "just not his kind of guy". Really? That's the same one who was so convinced I embraced socialism until I made it clear in no uncertain and powerful terms that I do not. But that's how you see it. Like RamDavidson. You don't care to understand. So no point in me being in here often and wasting life energy going around and around with you people! And that's still where I'm at overall. But getting back to Israel, it's high time for America to let Netanyahu know who is the boss! We lead, he follows, and not the other way around!
Israel owes its continued existence to us, and I would have no problem with us bringing pressure to bear to reshape and re-balance the relationship. Here is one narrow area where I actually agree with El-Sayed on something (uh oh I must be a communist). I would even go so far as telling them we won't sell you these weapons or these planes or provide more munitions if you don't do things according to our wishes. Make it clear who is going to call the shots in the Middle East, and they better come around too, because we're the only true and steady ally they've got left. Under Netanyahu, Israel has become a pariah nation and lost any moral high ground it had, and it's just sickening. What's in a name? Israel. Struggles with God! You can stop holding your breath now. Breathe, breathe! Inhale!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3078949]I have one simple question for you: which national Democrat politician other than Fetterman and a handful of others agrees with you publicly? Come on mate. It is time for you to wake up. This is not the Democrat Party of Bill Clinton! Big tent my ass.[/QUOTE]Oh, so now Bill Clinton is one of your heroes now or something? Well, I've got news for you. The Republican Party is not the party of Ronald Reagan anymore! And no, he damn sure is not one of my heroes. But I'll take him over your wannabe king in the White House now, where everything he touches, be that in his personal life or his public life, turns to absolute shit! The worst President ever because he repeatedly violates his oath and obligation to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. And you have the nerve to say to me that I need to wake up? LMFAO! At least I can call out the loonies in my party. When are you going to have the cajones to call the ones out in yours? Make America great again my ass! We are indeed a big tent party. We need to lock ranks and stand shoulder-to-shoulder united to defeat the MAGA right. But once that's done, the jockeying begins over who will control the party. And I, and millions of Democrats like me, don't want that to be the so-called "progressive left". We need to clamp them down, and not let them take over how folks like you failed and allowed MAGA to damage and ruin the GOP. You're the last one to be talking about not letting the crazies take over. Have you seen the Republican Party lately?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3078872]Anyone who references MAGA Bill Maher's Trump Cult Weekly Repub Campaign Rally spin as a premise to prove a point is a bigger ill-informed numbskull than he is.
LOL. He still has no idea that school kids can indeed carry the Trump's Pandemic virus even if they were not the ones getting seriously ill or dying from it, can spread it to each other in crowded school rooms, carry it back to their parents and grandparents, who could then carry it to their friends and so on. That's why school closures were an important mitigating measure to prevent hundreds of thousands more cases of it, filling more hospitals, monopolizing more medical staff and facilities, producing more deaths from Trump's Pandemic.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id5ePXx_H6k[/URL]
She would of destroyed the USA.
Scumbag Hillary also would of with TPP etc but that's exactly what you wanted.
Look at what that POS Merkel did to Deutschland and the EU along with von der Leyden, you voted for this illiterate incompetent political puta to destroy us all.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id5ePXx_H6k[/URL]
Why would you do that you might ask? To benefit the continent where you live (and the CCP) that you're never leaving that's why.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078960]Let's go back to the replay.
The way you can show racism is by just flipping races. When you do so, you get this.
The problem with the Palestinians after October 7th is they acted like they can deal with these people like they are in a Manhattan real estate deal. Once they got started, they should have not have stopped until the job was done. Don't just talk about it. They should not be finished with the delusional Israeli zealots, the nature of whose murderous regime you choose to look the other way from.
This is another stereotype of your tribe. You make statements like I do not hate Muslims while advocating for killing them then scream anti-semitism when literally the same wording is applied to Jewish people. Worse than that, you express complete prejudice for your fellow Americans who vote Republicans while I have bent over backwards to describe those who vote Democrat in their own self interest are much different than the Democratic douches who believe that anyone who votes for Republican has to be a complete moron.
Given that Jews are 0. 2% of the world's population and 2% of the population of the USA, the only response to a question like, what is your favorite bread, a croissant or bagel should have been met with incredulity. The only appropriate response would have been denial, and you did not even bother with that. You literally are imagning that you are this person of great mystery..[/QUOTE]Oh great, now you're parroting the Austrian Painter instead.
Are you saying that you support the Iranian dictatorship and the terrorist group IRGC?
Why would anyone respond to the irrelevant and inane pseudo question of "what's your favorite bread", antisemitism isn't a flex.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078811]I wasn't quite sure what Elvis 2008's latest round of fossil fuel woes are, trying to solve powering his RV air conditioner, heater and appliances, (last I checked you were getting free gas propane, but only in certain parts of Texas).[/QUOTE]Natural gas not propane.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078811]But I'm sure you still realize the sun is also free and shines freely in all 50 states.[/QUOTE]And solar panels and batteries cost money which you would know if you ever bought either.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078811]Again, no shame in using diesel generators to solve your RV problems, if that solution fits the bill.[/QUOTE]Um, propane or gasoline not diesel.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078811]those who can figure out how to use and implement battery tech successfully, and have embraced solar panels on their recreational vehicles or small boats, will be going without shore power for days on end...if needing it at all.[/QUOTE]I wonder if you even watch your videos. In the first part of the video, this crew mentioned how their boat failed in Northern latitudes.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078811]The point of this post, is to show that clean electrotech is advancing to solve your recreational needs, if you're willing to take off the fossil fuel shackles and blinders. NO diesel backup generator needed, just good ol' wind in your sails, sunshine in your solar panels and free clean renewable energy in your Li-ion batteries.[/QUOTE]They put on $10,000 worth of solar panels to do what a $1000 generator can do, and the generator does not require the sun to shine and can work at night. Some can be a little loud but which is worse being stranded at sea or a little noise? Of course, we know what you would say.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078813]Base Power raises $1B to roll out its giant new home battery,[/B] Aug 4th, 2026. Base Power has just unveiled Core, a supersized 39.2-kWh home battery that it says can keep a house running for up to 36 hours and be installed in under an hour. [URL]https://electrek.co/2026/08/03/base-power-raises-1b-to-roll-out-its-giant-new-home-battery.[/QUOTE]Hey chatgpt, how long can a 39.2 kw battery run a typical AC unit? For a typical 3-ton central AC, if it averages around 2.5–3.5 kW while the compressor is running, I'd estimate roughly 9–14 hours of continuous compressor operation.
And that is just for an AC unit.
Hey chatgpt, what size propane generator do you need to run the same AC unit? 10 to 14 kws came up. There is a 12,500 kw Westinghouse generator on Amazon for $949. It lasts up to 12 hours per tankful and will run as long as you put propane, which does not degrade metal, in the unit.
The generator this company compares its battery to is a diesel generator costing $13,000. At $695 plus $20 a month, the battery is more expensive than the generator after one year, and the generator is far more durable, puts out way more power and can last as long as you are willing to buy propane.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3078811]2026 the Year of the Battery.[/QUOTE]Actually, 2026 is the year Europe learned AC was not a luxury but a necessity and as I have said ad nauseam, batteries and running AC units do not mix.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3078943]Let me guess: you're a dual citizen, and you care more about a country on the eastern Mediterranean coast than you do about the country you're currently living in.[/QUOTE]Do you care about the Iranian people or the Iranian regime?
Do you prioritize the world economy or the Iranian regime?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078994]Oh great, now you're parroting the Austrian Painter instead.
Are you saying that you support the Iranian dictatorship and the terrorist group IRGC?[/QUOTE]Your comment is like me asking you:
Are you supporting Hamas?
Are you supporting ISIS?
Are you supporting Alqaeda?
Hamas has been founded by Nethanyaoo, ISIS and Alqaeda by the US. Therefore as a supporter of Nethanyaoo and the US you are necessarily supporting these 3. That's the kind of binary mindset Israeli firsters are always trying to argument on.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3079041]Your comment is like me asking you:
Are you supporting Hamas?
Are you supporting ISIS?
Are you supporting Alqaeda?
Hamas has been founded by Nethanyaoo, ISIS and Alqaeda by the US. Therefore as a supporter of Nethanyaoo and the US you are necessarily supporting these 3. That's the kind of binary mindset Israeli firsters are always trying to argument on.[/QUOTE]I find it interesting that you can't condemn the Iranian dictatorship and the brutal terrorist organization IRGC.
Hamas was founded by and almost all of their members are Muslim Palestinians. It's ridiculous and a rather desperate conspiracy theory to try to blame the Jews for that.
We all know that the main sponsors and supporters of ISIS are Qatar and Turkey, no friends of Israel. And how do you explain that all the ISIS members are Muslims? I find it insulting that you're promoting these rather moronic conspiracy theories that are way too easy to debunk.
I know that you know that the hateful lies you present are nothing but lies since you don't even try to present any facts to strengthen your rather wild claims.
As a European it's pretty clear what problems we are facing, just look at Northern Cyprus, Artsakh, Armenia, Ukraine, the Aegean Sea, Greece, Ceuta, Southern Italy, the energy prices and the security situation in Western Europe.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3078872]Anyone who references MAGA Bill Maher's Trump Cult Weekly Repub Campaign Rally spin as a premise to prove a point is a bigger ill-informed numbskull than he is.
LOL. He still has no idea that school kids can indeed carry the Trump's Pandemic virus even if they were not the ones getting seriously ill or dying from it, can spread it to each other in crowded school rooms, carry it back to their parents and grandparents, who could then carry it to their friends and so on. That's why school closures were an important mitigating measure to prevent hundreds of thousands more cases of it, filling more hospitals, monopolizing more medical staff and facilities, producing more deaths from Trump's Pandemic.
And I heard on his latest show he was touting how much better Florida handled it than Blue states like California in his ongoing mission to help his beloved Repubs win elections whenever and wherever possible.
Uh. Nope-a-Dope, MAGA Bill:[/QUOTE]We need 1 billion more Latinos like him in the USA.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6T_4DuT88o[/URL]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079082]I know that you know that the hateful lies you present are nothing but lies since you don't even try to present any facts to strengthen your rather wild claims.[/QUOTE]Hateful lies? Jews or Muslims are not part of my vocabulary. The main point was your binary argument.
8 dead at the hands of ICE so far in 2026.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/28/deaths-ice-2026-[/URL]
Similar to when Trump ushered in Trump's Pandemic by deciding in 2019 to defund and remove the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response teams leadership from those Chinese labs mere months before his Pandemic's first Covid-19 cases emerged and, therefore went unmonitored and reported by responsible agents, and contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid, it appears his ongoing mission to repeat that level of American mass murder and economic disaster has taken a special new turn, this time targeting American babies in his hunger for mass murder and mayhem:
[B]Trump signs order calling for fewer childhood vaccines, falsely linking shots to autism[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/10/trump-vaccine-executive-order-autism.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]President Donald Trump on Monday signed an executive order backing fewer routine vaccines for kids, calling to whittle down the number of recommended childhood shots to 11 while falsely tying immunizations to autism.
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He also falsely tied vaccines to autism, suggesting multiple times that rising rates of childhood shots have led to an increase in autism diagnoses. Decades of scientific evidence has shown no link between autism and childhood vaccines.
He also called for splitting the combination measles, mumps and rubella, or MMR, vaccine into three separate single-disease shots.
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But some health experts say that splitting up the shot raises the chance of missed appointments and skipped immunizations because it requires more doctor visits. Speaking to reporters after signing the order, Trump acknowledged it may be hard for some parents to take a child to the doctor multiple times, but argued it would be worth it.
Its inconvenient, its five stops, but its something that I think will have a huge impact on autism, he said.
There is no scientific evidence that combining the shots leads to higher autism risk.
Asked if he has any concerns about parents being able to afford multiple co-pays for doctors visits, Trump said were going to work with the families to help them afford the costs, without saying specifically how.[/QUOTE]I'm sure his methods for helping American parents afford those additional costs he just added to their lives will come swooping in "in about two weeks", right after he reduces Americans' rising costs in his 2nd term by eliminating his excessive and mysteriously inexplicable retaliatory Trump Tariffs, begs Iran to please, please, pretty please go back to the Nuclear Agreement brokered by Obama and Kerry and let bygones be bygones so the price of gas can go back to as low as it was under Biden except for about 4 months in 2022 when Trump's 2020 deal with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas was still in effect and after we get those Trump Tariffs refund checks in our hands. Aren't you?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079324]8 dead at the hands of ICE so far in 2026.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/28/deaths-ice-2026-[/URL][/QUOTE]Hope Wong wins in Wisconsin today!
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3079398]Hope Wong wins in Wisconsin today![/QUOTE]She's one of the worst! Such a flakey, wishy washy loser who I don't representing my party at or near the top of any ticket. Absolutely not!
Starting in Jul 2026,3-hrs of abundant renewable energy is free for Australians. With over 3. 7 million in rooftop solar and 7. 8 GW home battery storage, Australia ushers in a new era of Excess energy and free-electricity, transforming the supply and demand curve, into 3-hrs of free renewable energy. Very Cool!
[B]Australians to get three hours of free electricity every day under solar scheme[/B] [URL] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-03/energy-retailers-offer-free-power-three-hours-dmo/105965472[/URL].
[NOPARSE]You just got to love free renewable energy!
2026 the Year of the Battery (with record breaking 7. 8 GW in Aussie home storage! Wow!)[/NOPARSE]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078999]Do you care about the Iranian people or the Iranian regime?[/QUOTE]Iran has had two revolutions, one in 1953 and one in 1979. In both cases, the country was worse off after the revolutions. Only someone in your tribe would think a third revolution has to make things better. A new regime would more likely then not be worse than the one there now. So when your tribe mentions regime change, what it really means is you all just want more dead Muslims.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3078999]Do you prioritize the world economy or the Iranian regime?[/QUOTE]Why is that an either / or question? Why cannot both do well? Do you know even one person in the Iranian "regime" or are you just listening to your tribe's propaganda that everyone in the "regime" is evil? This is more of your tribe's propaganda. It is saintly Jews versus evil Muslims all over again.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3079442]Starting in Jul 2026,3-hrs of abundant renewable energy is free for Australians. With over 3. 7 million in rooftop solar and 7. 8 GW home battery storage, Australia ushers in a new era of Excess energy and free-electricity, transforming the supply and demand curve, into 3-hrs of free renewable energy. Very Cool!
[B]Australians to get three hours of free electricity every day under solar scheme[/B] [URL] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-03/energy-retailers-offer-free-power-three-hours-dmo/105965472[/URL].
[NOPARSE]You just got to love free renewable energy!
2026 the Year of the Battery (with record breaking 7. 8 GW in Aussie home storage! Wow!)[/NOPARSE][/QUOTE]Sigh. [URL]https://electricityplans.com/texas/compare/free-time-electricity-plans/[/URL].
Atlantex Power Luminous Nights. Free power from 9 pm to 9 am daily (12 hours of free power). At an average rate that assumes 50% of your power is free, it comes in at 4-5 cents less than the big provider.
Chariot Energy Free Days. Free days are becoming a thing now, thanks to the abundance of solar power coming online in Texas. This plan gives you free energy from 10 am to 4 pm and assumes you'll use 40% of your power during the day.
Cost of Atlantex is 12.3 cents per kwh and twice as much time for free electricity compared to Chariot's solar which is 12.9 cents per kwh.
Not sure why you are having an orgasm over 3 hours of free electricity in Australia.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3079530]Sigh. [URL]https://electricityplans.com/texas/compare/free-time-electricity-plans/[/URL].
Not sure why you are having an orgasm over 3 hours of free electricity in Australia.[/QUOTE]Take a moment to think, you'll note the difference!
All Aussies, across the country, get 3-hrs of free renewable clean energy electricity. Not just a few select states. Also the so called "free" electricity plans, is more [B]marketing spin[/B] than actually being truly free and those claims of "free electricity", are [U]less valid when you understand what is and isn't covered.[/U].
But thanks for pointing that out, that [B]due to an abundance of renewable energy,[/B] even places like Texas (and California to introduce similar plans), we are moving towards more cost effective plants to reduce consumer energy bills. Can't wait until ALL Americans receive free 3-hrs or more of free electricity.
BTW, the other major point being, when has the fossil fuel industry, provided free gasoline / gas to power your ICE vehicle or home? Or offered 3-hrs of free electricity, for all Americans? Ever?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3075295]Maybe one of these days ...
And as usual, you are all orgasmic at the latest Chinese propaganda announcement and you once again miss the key point: Sodium-ion batteries store less energy by weight or volume, which means that you need bigger batteries to store the same amount of energy compared to lithium batteries. [b]This limits their appeal for mobile devices and electric vehicles[/b] where manufacturers are inclined toward lightweight solutions.
So yeah, maybe sodium batteries have a place over Lithium with regards to batteries that do not need to be moved, but if they have to be moved around in something like an EV, they are inferior to Lithium. That is just physics.[/QUOTE][I]LOL!...You were saying what now?[/I]
China the worlds first electrostate, once again proves that the ignorant MAGA westerners, are still stuck in their arrogant western MAGA ideology, as to what China was 20 or more years ago, and not the built up power house it is today.
World's first sodium-ion electric haul truck gets to work in China, Aug 6 2026. [URL]https://electrek.co/2026/08/06/worlds-first-sodium-ion-electric-haul-truck-gets-to-work-in-china/[/URL].
[QUOTE] "[b]While Americans fret over whether or not electric vehicles are up to the challenge of hauling them back and forth to the Piggly Wiggly,[/b] Tonly is putting a fleet of advanced sodium battery electric haul trucks to work mining heavy ore.
HiNas Starfish worlds first 676 kWh sodium-ion electric mining truck and system charges in 2025 minutes, offers >165 Wh/kg cell density and >8,000 cycles. Sodium-ion batteries are rapidly scaling in China, promising lower costs, better cold performance, and diesel displacement. [url]https://chinaevhome.com/2026/08/05/hina-battery-and-tonly-deliver-worlds-first-676-kwh-sodium-ion-mining-truck/[/url][/QUOTE]So as MAGA Luddites, continue to make outdated claims about sodium-ion technology, China's quietly introduces, yet another example of (Na) sodium-ion limited MAGA [I][b]"appeal for mobile devices and electric vehicles"[/b][/I], with the world's first sodium-ion battery electric haul mining truck and then gets to work.
2026 the Year of the Battery.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3079347]Similar to when Trump ushered in Trump's Pandemic by deciding in 2019 to defund and remove the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response teams leadership from those Chinese labs mere months before his Pandemic's first Covid-19 cases emerged and, therefore went unmonitored and reported by responsible agents, and contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid, it appears his ongoing mission to repeat that level of American mass murder and economic disaster has taken a special new turn, this time targeting American babies in his hunger for mass murder and mayhem:
[B]Trump signs order calling for fewer childhood vaccines, falsely linking shots to autism[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/10/trump-vaccine-executive-order-autism.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
I'm sure his methods for helping American parents afford those additional costs he just added to their lives will come swooping in "in about two weeks", right after he reduces Americans' rising costs in his 2nd term by eliminating his excessive and mysteriously inexplicable retaliatory Trump Tariffs, begs Iran to please, please, pretty please go back to the Nuclear Agreement brokered by Obama and Kerry and let bygones be bygones so the price of gas can go back to as low as it was under Biden except for about 4 months in 2022 when Trump's 2020 deal with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas was still in effect and after we get those Trump Tariffs refund checks in our hands. Aren't you?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/12/us/elections/david-crowley-wisconsin-governors-primary.html[/URL]
Bernie in 2020 in Iowa.
Trump Nov 2020.
Now Hong.
The DNC playbook when you can't beat them fairly just "RIG IT".
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3079347]Similar to when Trump ushered in Trump's Pandemic by deciding in 2019 to defund and remove the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response teams leadership from those Chinese labs mere months before his Pandemic's first Covid-19 cases emerged and, therefore went unmonitored and reported by responsible agents, and contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid, it appears his ongoing mission to repeat that level of American mass murder and economic disaster has taken a special new turn, this time targeting American babies in his hunger for mass murder and mayhem:
[B]Trump signs order calling for fewer childhood vaccines, falsely linking shots to autism[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/10/trump-vaccine-executive-order-autism.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
I'm sure his methods for helping American parents afford those additional costs he just added to their lives will come swooping in "in about two weeks", right after he reduces Americans' rising costs in his 2nd term by eliminating his excessive and mysteriously inexplicable retaliatory Trump Tariffs, begs Iran to please, please, pretty please go back to the Nuclear Agreement brokered by Obama and Kerry and let bygones be bygones so the price of gas can go back to as low as it was under Biden except for about 4 months in 2022 when Trump's 2020 deal with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas was still in effect and after we get those Trump Tariffs refund checks in our hands. Aren't you?[/QUOTE]A snapshot of all you Anti USA / MAGA feminist Cucks.
Operation Checkpoint 2 was run by Democrats and then reversed by the Trump Administration.
[URL]https://financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=409457[/URL]
They do not want to see a [B]A poor man[/B] succeed anymore than Republicans do. But at least Republicans are honest about it.
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3079398]Hope Wong wins in Wisconsin today![/QUOTE]In the Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial primary on August 11, 2026, democratic socialist Francesca Hong suffered loss to Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, who won by 0.4 percent (approximately 3,000 votes).
Every vote counts. Because it's winner take all.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3079603]Take a moment to think, you'll note the difference![/QUOTE]How by hitting my head against a table?
[QUOTE=Spidy;3079603]BTW, the other major point being, when has the fossil fuel industry, provided free gasoline / gas to power your ICE vehicle or home? Or offered 3-hrs of free electricity, for all Americans? Ever?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2019-04-12/oil-companies-will-pay-you-to-take-natural-gas-from-west-texas[/URL]
Now, in West Texas, oil well operators will pay you to take their natural gas. The practice is called "negative pricing," and it could change everything from the price of electricity to the use of renewable energy.
I mentioned this before, and it happened again just recently. Maybe you have been smelling too many funny smelling batteries.
And the reason the solar power is being given away is precisely because the solar energy companies do not have enough battery storage capacity, and the reason natural gas has been given away at times is that it was cheaper to give it away than to burn it.
If you knew the law instead of making up what you think is best, you would know publicly traded companies have a fiduciary and legal duty to shareholders to not give away freebies. That is something a socialist / communist like you cannot understand. Why can't everything just be free?
Aren't you tired of getting humiliated?
[QUOTE]William Lawrence, a co-founder of the Sunrise Movement who is running for the Democratic nomination in the states 7th congressional district, made his comments on the Sept. 10, 2024 episode of his podcast, Hegemonicon, which featured conversations about social movements and politics.
The extent to which the older generation of [b]Black political leadership are such a pillar, frankly, for establishment, capitalist, imperialist American power[/b] through their role as this kind of traditionalist, establishment-ist pillar of the Democratic Party, its a big problem, Lawrence said around the 41:48 mark of the podcast. [u]Its a big problem for left politics in this country[/u]. And it gets us every single time. It really defangs the white left and puts us in impossible positions, really.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/surging-progressive-once-said-black-democratic-leaders-defang-the-white-left_n_6a51a01ae4b084b03f7f0f6d[/URL]
Jim Clyburn is part of that? Martin Luther King was? John Lewis was part of that? Obama (44th President of the United States of America) was part of that?
[QUOTE]These people are paternalistic. It's a bunch of overeducated little white turds who think they know more than other people know. They know what's wrong, and they're going to go and-
Then you've got them talking about indicting Netanyahu, and the problem is, you have a DSA candidate saying we should be against interracial dating.
Let me tell you something. These people-and I say this to all my Black friends and people like me-they think they know more than you do. They think their history is more glorious than yours.
They think that Lenin was a more glorious human being than Martin Luther King or Frederick Douglass. That's what they really think.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/james-carville-dsa-paternalistic-over-130000762.html[/URL]
Carville Sounds the Alarm as DSA Sweeps 2026 Primaries and Threatens the Black Voter Coalition. James Carville has been sounding the alarm on the socialist revolution inside the Democrat Party.
[QUOTE]On the On Brand podcast, he warned the socialist wave is fracturing the Democrat coalition at the worst possible moment.
"The blacks don't buy this s***," Carville said, warning Democrats that socialist Democrat and DSA candidates are torching the most reliable voting bloc in the history of the party.
"Black folks, listen to me very carefully, are the most loyal part of the entire Democratic coalition," Carville said. "If you disrespect them, they know it. And the Democratic Party can never show any distance between itself and black voters."
The data backs Carville up in ways that have every Democrat running for office in November sweating.
Fox News reported that in last year's New York City mayoral primary, socialist Mayor Zohran Mamdani trailed Andrew Cuomo among black voters by nearly six points across the city.
In Brownsville and East Flatbush two neighborhoods where black residents make up more than 60% of the population the margin was not close.
In Missouri, DSA candidate Cori Bush went down in a landslide, overwhelmingly defeated by Rep. Wesley Bell in the primary.
Socialist Democrats are losing the voters they cannot afford to lose.[/QUOTE][URL]https://conservativeundergroundnews.com/james-carville-dropped-an-expletive-warning-about-black-voters-as-democrats-near-a-schism/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/08/12/trump-touts-stranglehold-iran-praise-be-allah/[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3079347]Similar to when Trump ushered in Trump's Pandemic by deciding in 2019 to defund and remove the highly effective Pandemic Prevention and Response teams leadership from those Chinese labs mere months before his Pandemic's first Covid-19 cases emerged and, therefore went unmonitored and reported by responsible agents, and contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid, it appears his ongoing mission to repeat that level of American mass murder and economic disaster has taken a special new turn, this time targeting American babies in his hunger for mass murder and mayhem:
[B]Trump signs order calling for fewer childhood vaccines, falsely linking shots to autism[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/10/trump-vaccine-executive-order-autism.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
I'm sure his methods for helping American parents afford those additional costs he just added to their lives will come swooping in "in about two weeks", right after he reduces Americans' rising costs in his 2nd term by eliminating his excessive and mysteriously inexplicable retaliatory Trump Tariffs, begs Iran to please, please, pretty please go back to the Nuclear Agreement brokered by Obama and Kerry and let bygones be bygones so the price of gas can go back to as low as it was under Biden except for about 4 months in 2022 when Trump's 2020 deal with OPEC to raise the price of oil and gas was still in effect and after we get those Trump Tariffs refund checks in our hands. Aren't you?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/gordon-chang-donald-trump-china/2026/08/12/id/1265913/[/URL]
I do not like way ICE does business. They run around with masks on like cowards. They shoot individuals not even involved in enforcement action. 90% of them are unqualified to carry a badge and especially a gun.
[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/bay-area-russian-asylum-seeker-ice-detention-louisiana-bond-hearing/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Americans are twice as likely to hold favorable views of local police than ICE officers and broadly oppose increased ICE funding.
Two-thirds of Americans (67%) express favorable views of local police officers, up from 63% in September 2025. By contrast, one-third of Americans hold favorable views of ICE officers (33%), down from 39% in September 2025.
Only white evangelical Protestants (65%) and white Catholics (51%) express majority favorable views of ICE officers.
Only 36% of Americans favor the increase in funding for ICE to increase efforts to arrest, detain, and deport undocumented immigrants. Republicans are outliers: Three in four Republicans (76%) are in favor, compared with 29% of independents and only 8% of Democrats.
Only white evangelical Protestants (66%) and white Catholics (54%) show majority support for increasing ICE funding.[/QUOTE][URL]https://prri.org/research/americans-views-on-immigration-enforcement-ice-and-civil-liberties-in-the-second-trump-administration/[/URL]
Look at who support ICE. Those posting up in here, raise their hand. Cause y'all fit the description.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079760]I do not like way ICE does business. They run around with masks on like cowards. They shoot individuals not even involved in enforcement action. 90% of them are unqualified to carry a badge and especially a gun.
[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/bay-area-russian-asylum-seeker-ice-detention-louisiana-bond-hearing/[/URL]
[URL]https://prri.org/research/americans-views-on-immigration-enforcement-ice-and-civil-liberties-in-the-second-trump-administration/[/URL]
Look at who support ICE. Those posting up in here, raise their hand. Cause y'all fit the description.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B][/QUOTE]ICE is upholding the law and modern civilization and is indeed what differentiates a country from a lawless anarchy.
Those who won't support ICE are against the existence of USA and have no credibility as they believe they are above the law and it's optional for them to follow the law.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079779]ICE is upholding the law and modern civilization and is indeed what differentiates a country from a lawless anarchy.[/QUOTE]Incorrect. [B]ICE is not upholding the law[/B]. ICE is violating the law and that has been proven over and over again.
The first law of the land in the Dis United States of America is the Constitution of the United States of America. In that document (you should read it) individuals are innocent until proven guilt. There is also the part where citizens have to right to face their accuser. ICE wearing masks violate the basic constitutional right. ICE killing someone without cause takes away their constitutional rights.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079779]Those who won't support ICE are against the existence of USA and have no credibility as they believe they are above the law and it's optional for them to follow the law.[/QUOTE]I disagree what what you have to say. But just in case you didn't know, it is the Constitution of the United States of America that gives you the right to say it. It is a crying shame this forum and my country is filled with people who lack the intelligence to read and comprehend the founding documents of the country they live in.
I do not support the methods that ICE use. [B]They are an embarrassment[/B] to The Cmdr as a citizen of the Dis United States of America. The organization needs to be revamped from the top down. They are the worst federal law enforcement agency in the county by far.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3079528]Iran has had two revolutions, one in 1953 and one in 1979. In both cases, the country was worse off after the revolutions. Only someone in your tribe would think a third revolution has to make things better. A new regime would more likely then not be worse than the one there now. So when your tribe mentions regime change, what it really means is you all just want more dead Muslims.
Why is that an either / or question? Why cannot both do well? Do you know even one person in the Iranian "regime" or are you just listening to your tribe's propaganda that everyone in the "regime" is evil? This is more of your tribe's propaganda. It is saintly Jews versus evil Muslims all over again.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry bud, but you objectively got a few things wrong.
Iran became a richer and more prosperous country after the 1953 "revolution" and I believe that you are slandering my Christian "tribe".
As a Christian I'm deeply aware of what my "tribe" is and what obstacles we are facing.
The oil price is high because of the Iranian dictatorships terrorism against the oil shipments.
My "tribe" is under occupation in northern Cyprus by the rather genocidal Islamist Turkish regime governed by Recep Kelbdogan Erdogan. The same goes for the Aegean Sea, Armenia, Artsakh and the conditions facing my Christian "tribe" in Syria. To me it was rather enlightening to hear what my fellow Christian "tribes men" from northern Syria and southern Lebanon had to say about the invasion of ISIS from turkey into northern Syria and what Hezbollah is doing against my "tribe" in southern Lebanon. As a European I'm deeply concerned over Putin and Russia's war crimes in Ukraine and how the Turkish Islamist government is using this situation to gain financial and political advantages by trying to control the routes of energy reaching Europe.
You're not even trying to hide what your "ideology" or "tribe" is, we have defeated your tribe and ideology in Europe before and we will do it again if we have to.
The fact you want the Iranian terrorist regime to prosper is rather horrific and begs the question why you would want a regime that's terrorizing the world and its own citizens to go on?
To me and everyone else it's obvious that the Iranian dictatorship are governed by the most extremist and violent people in Iran. Anything would be better than the current regime, that's the basic understanding of anything with even an ounce of honesty and knowledge of the Iranian society and how soon over a hundred thousand of Iranians will have been killed this year by the regime.
It's rather hilarious to see you go on about dead Muslims when the current reality on the ground in Iran is that normal Iranians are being murdered by Muslims for not wanting to live under sharia laws.
Why don't you care about what's actually going on in Iran today? Do you and your tribe want more dead Iranians? Don't you and your Austrian painter tribe value the lives of non-Muslims?
The Iranian regime doesn't want peace and prosperity, that's why they are taking billions from the Iranian people to spend on weapons and foreign militias.
What do you say about the fact that there are terrorist attacks in European cities directly financed and ordered by the Iranian regime?
Why do you want such a blood thirsty terrorist regime to prosper?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3079697]How by hitting my head against a table?[/QUOTE]I hear that works in MAGA circles! Knock yourself out!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3079697][URL]https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2019-04-12/oil-companies-will-pay-you-to-take-natural-gas-from-west-texas[/URL]
Now, in West Texas, oil well operators will pay you to take their natural gas.[/QUOTE]Dude, maybe [U]you don't read[/U] to good these days, on account of the gas fumes. I said [I][b]"... for all Americas..."[/b][/I].
This [NOPARSE]is about, as bad as your Luddite sodium-ion outdated assumptions, where you fail to understand, the growth of electrotech, that is transforming free (and low cost of) energy for everyone and not just for narrow minded Texans.
2026 The Year of the Battery[/NOPARSE].
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079781]Incorrect. [B]ICE is not upholding the law[/B]. ICE is violating the law and that has been proven over and over again.
The first law of the land in the Dis United States of America is the Constitution of the United States of America. In that document (you should read it) individuals are innocent until proven guilt. There is also the part where citizens have to right to face their accuser. ICE wearing masks violate the basic constitutional right. ICE killing someone without cause takes away their constitutional rights.
I disagree what what you have to say. But just in case you didn't know, it is the Constitution of the United States of America that gives you the right to say it. It is a crying shame this forum and my country is filled with people who lack the intelligence to read and comprehend the founding documents of the country they live in.
I do not support the methods that ICE use. [B]They are an embarrassment[/B] to The Cmdr as a citizen of the Dis United States of America. The organization needs to be revamped from the top down. They are the worst federal law enforcement agency in the county by far.[/QUOTE]ICE is doing a great job, more people should be like them. It's admirable how they uphold and respect the law.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3079615][I]LOL!...You were saying what now?[/I]
China the worlds first electrostate, once again proves that the ignorant MAGA westerners, are still stuck in their arrogant western MAGA ideology, as to what China was 20 or more years ago, and not the built up power house it is today.
World's first sodium-ion electric haul truck gets to work in China, Aug 6 2026. [URL]https://electrek.co/2026/08/06/worlds-first-sodium-ion-electric-haul-truck-gets-to-work-in-china/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thank your for the link. That is amazing.
[QUOTE]Lower emissions, less pollution, reduced hearing loss from diesel drone, superior safety, and autonomous, all-weather performance. Thats a value proposition thats going to be tough to beat which explains just about every single political lobbying dollar being spent by the oil companies right now.
Gas and oil knows they're beat.[/QUOTE]The Dis United states of America better put in some work. I mean some serious work! Like [I]we are going to moon because it is hard[/I] work, when it comes to energy production. It's really NOT a political issue. It is a economic issue. Energy is the currency of the world. The Oil markets exist to deliver it refineries around the world a price that allows them the margins to turn it into gasoline, diesel and jet fuel. Personally I think those are going to be needed for a long time as we transition to an electro-state. But one thing cannot be argued, the Dis United States of America needs more electricity production.
[QUOTE]Data center demand will outpace planned utility capacity additions by more than 100 GW through 2030, increasing reliance on on-site gas generation and battery storage, analysts project.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ai-data-center-growth-utilities-generation-plans/825541/[/URL]
Pivot to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is energy turned into a digital form that can be used to exchange value at the speed of light throughout the world. Think about it!
In my opinion they are not. They are a poor example of how to conduct federal law enforcement activities. Without revealing too much about my past, lets just say I have more knowledge than anyone posting here looking at it from the outside.
[QUOTE]Public opinion on whether USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is doing a good job is sharply divided along political lines, with a majority of Americans expressing disapproval of the agency's recent tactics.
About 62% of respondents believed that ICE was making Americans somewhat less safe or much less safe, the poll showed, while 60% said they disapproved of the job ICE is doing.[/QUOTE][URL]https://time.com/article/2026/07/15/trump-says-ice-is-loved-and-respected-in-america-is-that-true-/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Nearly two-thirds of respondents in the latest poll 65% feel ICE has gone too far in enforcing immigration laws, a jump from 54% last June, when the Trump administration began enhanced enforcement efforts in Los Angeles. That's driven largely by Democrats and independents, but a growing share of Republicans say the same.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poll-nearly-two-thirds-of-americans-say-ice-has-gone-too-far-in-immigration-crackdown[/URL]
I think, ICE engages in racial profiling, lacks sound practices and planning at a institutional level, executes operations in a manner that endangers the public because they are poor trained. This has caused a decline in public safety perception because they are acting like death squad goons running around in masks. This is something no other federal law enforcement agency has done in the entire history of the Dis United States of America. It is ICE that thinks they are above the law. Above the Constitution of the United States of America because they have the personal backing of the current Article 2 leader.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079809]ICE is doing a great job, more people should be like them. It's admirable how they uphold and respect the law.[/QUOTE]However, it would be much simpler if all police departments cooperated with ICE in detaining people. The outcomes would be much better since federal government employees are not trained or are not as effective than local police. That's why cities and counties have their own law enforcement.
I don't buy in or believe that "sanctuary city" policy as applied by many cities in blue states. But, I understand there's tension that Trump has created by being overly aggressive.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079816]In my opinion they are not. They are a poor example of how to conduct federal law enforcement activities. Without revealing too much about my past, lets just say I have more knowledge than anyone posting here looking at it from the outside.
[URL]https://time.com/article/2026/07/15/trump-says-ice-is-loved-and-respected-in-america-is-that-true-/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poll-nearly-two-thirds-of-americans-say-ice-has-gone-too-far-in-immigration-crackdown[/URL]
I think, ICE engages in racial profiling, lacks sound practices and planning at a institutional level, executes operations in a manner that endangers the public because they are poor trained. This has caused a decline in public safety perception because they are acting like death squad goons running around in masks. This is something no other federal law enforcement agency has done in the entire history of the Dis United States of America. It is ICE that thinks they are above the law. Above the Constitution of the United States of America because they have the personal backing of the current Article 2 leader.[/QUOTE]It's obvious that ICE is doing a great job for people that value law and order.
God bless the President and ICE!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079809]ICE is doing a great job, more people should be like them. It's admirable how they uphold and respect the law.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2026/08/14/geert-wilders-for-breitbart-we-should-be-worried-about-demographic-change-not-climate-change/[/URL]
Black woman makes the uniforms for the Blue Angels for 43 year. Then loses the contract to a white man who gets paid 3 times a much to do the same thing.
[URL]https://www.military.com/navy-suddenly-ends-43-year-blue-angels-uniform-deal-with-florida-business[/URL]
[URL]https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-08-05/blue-angels-new-flight-suit-manufacturer-22462434.html[/URL]
ICE is part of the reason it is the Dis United States of America. How does public perception of a Federal Law Enforcement agency break down by political affiliation in such a sharp manner.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3079839]However, it would be much simpler if all police departments cooperated with ICE in detaining people. [/QUOTE]No requirement to do so. Read the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. Pay attention to the part about state rights and the limits of the federal government.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3079839]The outcomes would be much better since federal government employees are not trained or are not as effective than local police. That's why cities and counties have their own law enforcement.[/QUOTE]You just proved my point. You cannot assume ICE has the best interests of the local population in mind when they are running around like coward wearing masks and gunning my fellow citizens down in the street.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3079839]I don't buy in or believe that "sanctuary city" policy as applied by many cities in blue states. [/QUOTE]Which means you don't believe in the structure of the United Stated of America and designed in The Constitution. Once again I refer you to the 10th Amendment.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3079839]IBut, I understand there's tension that Trump has created by being overly aggressive.[/QUOTE]The current Article 2 leader has indeed overstepped. He is not a King. He took an oath to uphold The Constitution of the United States of America. ICE violates the constitutional rights of my fellow citizens. The organization needs to be overhauled from the top down.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079928]ICE is part of the reason it is the Dis United States of America. How does public perception of a Federal Law Enforcement agency break down by political affiliation in such a sharp manner.
No requirement to do so. Read the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. Pay attention to the part about state rights and the limits of the federal government.
You just proved my point. You cannot assume ICE has the best interests of the local population in mind when they are running around like coward wearing masks and gunning my fellow citizens down in the street.
Which means you don't believe in the structure of the United Stated of America and designed in The Constitution. Once again I refer you to the 10th Amendment.
The current Article 2 leader has indeed overstepped. He is not a King. He took an oath to uphold The Constitution of the United States of America. ICE violates the constitutional rights of my fellow citizens. The organization needs to be overhauled from the top down.[/QUOTE]You can't accept the simple fact that ICE is representing the people and laws meant to protect the people and enforce the laws. It's actually funny how Trump won the election in big part thanks to his views on immigration. ICE agents are enforcing the laws but because of the radical, violent left that you support it's dangerous for US law enforcement to be open with their identity.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079852]It's obvious that ICE is doing a great job for people that value law and order.
God bless the President and ICE![/QUOTE]The insane Woke Communist party is trying to destroy our country from the inside! I never thought I would ever see something like this in the USA. In light of this fact, Trump is a true American hero!
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leaves-stage-mid-speech-embrace-parents-12-year-old-killed-stray-bullet-bronx[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZSRD4LfkKQo[/URL]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079936]You can't accept the simple fact that ICE is representing the people and laws meant to protect the people and enforce the laws. It's actually funny how [b]Trump won the election in big part thanks to his views on immigration.[/b] ICE agents are enforcing the laws but because of the radical, violent left that you support it's dangerous for US law enforcement to be open with their identity.[/QUOTE]Have you seen any evidence that the approximately 114,900 angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered, MI, WI and PA, who were solely responsible for every "winning" Electoral College vote for Trump and were specifically targeted for their swing votes in those states on a single issue by Musk's money and Netanyahu's clever delay in honoring the May 2024 Biden-negotiated ceasefire until after the election, cared all that much about immigration, inflation, the economy or anything other than that they were pissed off at the Biden Administration for its support for Israel in the War, which they extrapolated to supporting Netanyahu, who they hated?
Was that tiny handful of angry Muslims "in big part" also really concerned about immigration?
There is no evidence that any typically Dem-voting demographic flipped any typically Blue state or swung and votes from the Dem candidate Harris to the Repub candidate Trump anywhere to hand him so much as even one "winning" Electoral College vote in 2024 other than that one demographic on that one issue in the only three swing states that mattered and where their swing vote on that one issue was specifically targeted in the campaign.
This is weird to read here murdering is doing a great job in USA. Same than free weapons with 13000 deaths every year. Maybe a good job in USA is to kill mothers or children. About economy and inflation, Ormuz was a free pass before Trump war, but because of his craziness, mollahs he didn't change, understood the power of Ormuz, when they are so much more intelligent than this senile American idiot, as sang Green Day.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3079943]The insane Woke Communist party is trying to destroy our country from the inside![/QUOTE]No member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) or the splinter American Communist Party (ACP) currently holds federal office, and no one has ever been elected to Congress as an open Communist.
[URL]https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/number-of-communists-marxists-elected-officials-united-states-66ed73[/URL]
Given that fact all problems in the Dis United States of America derive from the Republican Party that controls both the Article 1 and Article 2 branch of government of the Dis United States of America. All problems in the Dis United States of America originate with them.
Cracks me up that individual who are so passionate about the Dis United States of America are pussy colonizers and don't even fuck the girls in the Dis United States of America. I think that is rather hypocritical.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3079943]The insane Woke Communist party is trying to destroy our country from the inside! I never thought I would ever see something like this in the USA. In light of this fact, Trump is a true American hero!
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leaves-stage-mid-speech-embrace-parents-12-year-old-killed-stray-bullet-bronx[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZSRD4LfkKQo[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/9xhevsgX2CU?si=59JchMM-uy6iW_g3[/URL]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079781]I disagree what what you have to say. But just in case you didn't know, it is the Constitution of the United States of America that gives you the right to say it. It is a crying shame this forum and my country is filled with people who lack the intelligence to read and comprehend the founding documents of the country they live in.[/QUOTE]Assuming you are not a AI agent programmed to respond with the Republican party line in spite of the facts and links that I provide, let me correct several inaccurate statements that you made about ICE and The Cmdr.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079936]You can't accept the simple fact that ICE is representing the people and laws meant to protect the people and enforce the laws.[/QUOTE]It is not enforcing of the law that I have a problem with. I have extensive experience with enforcing the law and the local, state and federal level. It is the way they are enforcing the law that I have a problem with. You must obey the law while you are enforcing it. The law of the land of the Dis United States of America is the Constitution of the United States of America. I have have pointed out several ways that ICE violates the constitutional rights of my fellow citizens. BTW, have you ever read The Constitution of the United States of America in it's entirety?
[U]Lets break it down by each Constitution Amendment ICE is violating[/U]
Courts, civil rights groups, and federal judges have documented that ICE frequently violates constitutional rights through warrantless detentions, excessive force, and denial of due process.
[U]Key Violations Include:[/U]
[B]Fourth Amendment[/B]: ICE agents engage in warrantless home entries using only administrative warrants, conduct warrantless arrests based on detainers without probable cause, and use racial profiling (e. G. , targeting individuals by accent or appearance) which lower courts have ruled unconstitutional.
[URL]https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/how-ice-may-violate-constitutional-rights-217665[/URL]
[B]Fifth Amendment[/B]: Detainees face denial of access to legal counsel, coerced signing of immigration paperwork without judicial review, and widespread denial of bond hearings, violating due process guarantees.
[URL]https://immigrantjustice.org/for-attorneys/cases/gonzalez-v-ice/[/URL]
[B]First and Second Amendments[/B]: Agents have used excessive force and surveillance against journalists and constitutional observers, and in extreme cases, killed unarmed individuals (such as Alex Pretti and Rene Good) who posed minimal risk, violating free speech and assembly rights.
[URL]https://theconversation.com/ice-and-border-patrol-in-minnesota-accused-of-violating-1st-2nd-4th-and-10th-amendment-rights-are-testing-whether-the-constitution-can-survive-274613[/URL]
[B]Eighth Amendment[/B]: ICE detention centers have been cited for inhumane conditions, including solitary confinement, medical neglect, and overcrowding, leading to preliminary injunctions in facilities like the Bishop Henry Whipple Federal Building in Minnesota.
[URL]https://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2052&context=plr[/URL]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079936]It's actually funny how Trump won the election in big part thanks to his views on immigration.[/QUOTE][B]Why is it funny to you?[/B] You think the killing of my fellow citizens in cold blood in the streets of the United States of America and violating their Constitutional rights is funny? That is why you voted for the current Article 2 leader of the Dis United States of America?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079936]ICE agents are enforcing the laws but because of the radical, violent left that you support it's dangerous for US law enforcement to be open with their identity.[/QUOTE]With facts and links (like I provide) back up your statements on all three points:
1. Prove the left is violent and radical.
2. I have over 7200 posts. Quote one where I am supporting the left.
3. How is ICE in anymore danger than any other Federal Law Enforcement personnel on the streets of the Dis United States of America?
[U]States Rights against ICE[/U]
[URL]https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/states-have-the-power-to-hold-federal-agents-accountable-by-allowing-people-to-sue-them-for-rights-violations[/URL]
Neither Democrats nor Republicans are friends of my mine nor do they have my back. Some would rather just tow the party line instead of thinking critically for themselves. This is the nature of the responses I get to my posts about ICE.
Any individual arguing that I am supporting the [I]radical violent left[/I] is simply not right in the brain. I spent the better part of my adult working life defending the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies foreign and domestic and protecting my fellow citizen.
My part of my argument against ICE is that currently they are using excessive violence against my fellow citizens to enforce the law. There is absolutely nothing that justifies what they are doing. You don't see the FBI doing that and they deal with real live terrorists and organized crime members who are actually dangerous. When enforcing the law you have to obey the law and no one not even the Article 2 leader of the Dis United States of America is above the law. The problem is that the Republicans of Senate of Dis United States of America do not have the testicular fortitude to perform their duties of checks and balances as dictated in the Constitution.
So anyone that wants to take on The Cmdr better read and understand the founding documents of the country that they live in before they step to me with their [B]male bovine excrement[/B] that smells bad and no one wants to be around. Because that's all their opinions are. If you are going to step to The Cmdr, back your opinions up with facts and make the argument to prove your point (just like I did in this post). Stop with all the mindless repetition of Republican ideas and think for yourselves for once.
[B]Check ball![/B]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3079946]Have you seen any evidence that the approximately 114,900 angry Muslims spread across the only 3 swing states that mattered, MI, WI and PA, who were solely responsible for every "winning" Electoral College vote for Trump and were specifically targeted for their swing votes in those states on a single issue by Musk's money and Netanyahu's clever delay in honoring the May 2024 Biden-negotiated ceasefire until after the election, cared all that much about immigration, inflation, the economy or anything other than that they were pissed off at the Biden Administration for its support for Israel in the War, which they extrapolated to supporting Netanyahu, who they hated?
Was that tiny handful of angry Muslims "in big part" also really concerned about immigration?
There is no evidence that any typically Dem-voting demographic flipped any typically Blue state or swung and votes from the Dem candidate Harris to the Repub candidate Trump anywhere to hand him so much as even one "winning" Electoral College vote in 2024 other than that one demographic on that one issue in the only three swing states that mattered and where their swing vote on that one issue was specifically targeted in the campaign.[/QUOTE]President Trump won mainly because of the migration chaos brought on by Biden and Kamala just like Biden was able to win the election in 2020 because of the global COVID 19 pandemic and the chaos created by the liberals in USA to be able to win the Presidential election against President Trump.
The three states you mentioned have a population of 30 million people, a 100 k is less than 0. 5% of the totalt population.
Two other things; many were surprised and very impressed by how well President Trump did in many states, not at least the blue states affected by Biden&Kamala's open border policy.
BTW, didn't also Nevada, Georgia, Arizona turn red in the beautiful 2024 Presidential win for President Trump?
Oh well, Latin migrants coming to USA shouldn't be considered as enemies and mistreated but neither should law enforcement such as ICE. The failed and extremely counterproductive border policy by Biden and Kamala undoubtedly undermined the American people's desire for a generous migration policy.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3080074]Assuming you are not a AI agent programmed to respond with the Republican party line in spite of the facts and links that I provide, let me correct several inaccurate statements that you made about ICE and The Cmdr.
It is not enforcing of the law that I have a problem with. I have extensive experience with enforcing the law and the local, state and federal level. It is the way they are enforcing the law that I have a problem with. You must obey the law while you are enforcing it. The law of the land of the Dis United States of America is the Constitution of the United States of America. I have have pointed out several ways that ICE violates the constitutional rights of my fellow citizens.[/QUOTE]Here's the problem; this is an anonymous forum so you will and can only be judged from the ideas and opinions you present on this forum.
You can claim to be the king of Mauritania, I have seen no evidence of either being true. But I can say this; the people I know with verified actual law enforcement experience all say the same thing, ICE is doing a great job! Especially given the circumstances, scrutiny and sabotage they are facing from the radical violent left.
I see what you write and the ideas you propagate and I can't really see any difference compared to what the radical violent left is saying. I mean, there's a reason why sensible life long centrist Democrats are talking about turning their backs on the Democrats.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079928]ICE is part of the reason it is the Dis United States of America. How does public perception of a Federal Law Enforcement agency break down by political affiliation in such a sharp manner.
No requirement to do so. Read the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. Pay attention to the part about state rights and the limits of the federal government.
I didn't say there was a requirement to do so. You can pay attention to what I say not what think I said.
You just proved my point. You cannot assume ICE has the best interests of the local population in mind when they are running around like coward wearing masks and gunning my fellow citizens down in the street.
Which means you don't believe in the structure of the United Stated of America and designed in The Constitution. Once again I refer you to the 10th Amendment.
Do you actually live in the United States? It's Trump not ICE that is the problem here. We didn't have these issues of ICE being out of control until Trump came back..[/QUOTE]I don't care for Trump either but your declarations that he is following the law are nonsensical and without merit. The Supreme Court hasn't held that ICE is unconstitutional so your claim claim is false.
57% Americans think Trump degraded their economics. After Musk corruption, to be re elected, I wish Americans will talk on midterms, even Trump try to fuck these elections. Our world would be better without him and his mafia of robbers.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3079793]I hear that works in MAGA circles! Knock yourself out!
Dude, maybe you don't read to good these days, on account of the gas fumes. I said "... for all Americas..."[/QUOTE]My writing is not the issue, but your comprehension is. Anyone who showed up in West Texas could fill up with as much natural gas they could carry. That means all Americans.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3079793]This is about, as bad as your Luddite sodium-ion outdated assumptions, where you fail to understand, the growth of electrotech, that is transforming free (and low cost of) energy for everyone and not just for narrow minded Texans.
2026 The Year of the Battery.[/QUOTE]Man, I really do not get the moderators and their crazy censorship over sodium ion batteries. Maybe one own stocks in one of the companies. Let's do a test run and I will lie. Sodium ion batteries are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Here is a comparison of sodium and lithium power stations: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9k8dsApWIM[/URL]
And I was super impressed with the sodium power station.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3080066][URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/9xhevsgX2CU?si=59JchMM-uy6iW_g3[/URL][/QUOTE]This video spoofs a real hypocrisy among wealthy, elitist Democrats and their bought and paid for politicians, namely, that these folks live in gated communities with plenty of security. They never take public transportation. They do not have to put up with homeless people, street crime, and the violence regular folks (of all ethnicities) living in large metropolitan areas have to deal with every day just going to work, or going to the grocery store, or taking their kids to schools that no longer educate their children. This is the primary reason the Left has lost the working class. Sandy (AOC) for President! Yeah, baby.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080079]Latin migrants coming to USA shouldn't be considered as enemies and mistreated but neither should law enforcement such as ICE. The failed and extremely counterproductive border policy by Biden and Kamala undoubtedly undermined the American people's desire for a generous migration policy.[/QUOTE]Latin Americans who came here legally know full well what they left behind in their communist home countries. Cuban Americans, for example, are virulently anti-communist which is why the Left dislikes them almost as much as they dislike Jews. But I disagree with you a little bit about Joe and Kamala's open border policy. These jerkoffs believe the policy was a great success and if a Democrat were to win the presidency in 2028, you can be damn sure they will open the border again and let another 20 million undocumented in. Just ask any of the DSA candidates running in 2026.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]I'm sorry bud, but you objectively got a few things wrong.
Iran became a richer and more prosperous country after the 1953 "revolution"[/QUOTE]You need to look back on your history.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]My "tribe" is under occupation in northern Cyprus by the rather genocidal Islamist Turkish regime governed by Recep Kelbdogan Erdogan. The same goes for the Aegean Sea, Armenia, Artsakh and the conditions facing my Christian "tribe" in Syria. To me it was rather enlightening to hear what my fellow Christian "tribes men" from northern Syria and southern Lebanon had to say about the invasion of ISIS from turkey into northern Syria and what Hezbollah is doing against my "tribe" in southern Lebanon. As a European I'm deeply concerned over Putin and Russia's war crimes in Ukraine and how the Turkish Islamist government is using this situation to gain financial and political advantages by trying to control the routes of energy reaching Europe.[/QUOTE]Well, that explains your anti-Muslim POV.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]The fact you want the Iranian terrorist regime to prosper is rather horrific and begs the question why you would want a regime that's terrorizing the world and its own citizens to go on?[/QUOTE]I never said I want them to prosper. I was responding to your ridiculously flawed binary argument.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]To me and everyone else it's obvious that the Iranian dictatorship are governed by the most extremist and violent people in Iran. Anything would be better than the current regime, that's the basic understanding of anything with even an ounce of honesty and knowledge of the Iranian society and how soon over a hundred thousand of Iranians will have been killed this year by the regime.[/QUOTE]And here we go again. You have no clue if the government were toppled that the new one would not be worse than the old. The Iranian regime is not even close to the genocidal levels of other regimes.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]It's rather hilarious to see you go on about dead Muslims when the current reality on the ground in Iran is that normal Iranians are being murdered by Muslims for not wanting to live under sharia laws.[/QUOTE]Sharia law is the pretense that allows the religious leaders to steal their people blind. You do not know one person in the regime or what is going on at the ground level. All you know is Jewish propaganda.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]Why don't you care about what's actually going on in Iran today?[/QUOTE]I do care; it is you whose only answer to anything is killing people and changing the leadership without knowing who the new leadership is or whether they would be better or worse.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]The Iranian regime doesn't want peace and prosperity, that's why they are taking billions from the Iranian people to spend on weapons and foreign militias.[/QUOTE]That moral argument falls short when my money / tax dollars are being used to kill the Iranian people when I do not want it to be used to do so.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3079782]What do you say about the fact that there are terrorist attacks in European cities directly financed and ordered by the Iranian regime?[/QUOTE]I would say look at your history. The USA just attacked Iran and in 1953, we put in a dictator. It is much more complex than good guys and bad guys.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080113]Here's the problem; this is an anonymous forum so you will and can only be judged from the ideas and opinions you present on this forum.[/QUOTE]Wrong, I present facts. None of which were disputed by you in the post that you quoted.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080113]You can claim to be the king of Mauritania, I have seen no evidence of either being true. But I can say this; the people I know with verified actual law enforcement experience all say the same thing, ICE is doing a great job![/QUOTE]This is anonymous forum. So the claims your are making could be true or not. Once again, I listed a number of facts that you have either chosen not to dispute or cannot dispute.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080113]I see what you write and the ideas you propagate and I can't really see any difference compared to what the radical violent left is saying.[/QUOTE]Well if you cannot see the difference between facts and opinions then you don't see very well. I will state again, the post you quoted from contained numerous documented facts that you have chosen either not to dispute or cannot dispute.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3080119]I don't care for Trump either but your declarations that he is following the law are nonsensical and without merit. The Supreme Court hasn't held that ICE is unconstitutional so your claim claim is false.[/QUOTE]There is immigration law on the books. The problem is not the law it how ICE enforces the law. You have chosen to state your opinions absent of any facts or links. There have been several rulings from the lower courts that ICE is performing it's law enforcement actions in a way that is violating the Constitutional rights of fellow citizens of The Cmdr.
Next time you want to step to The Cmdr, instead of calling names like a child who got his feeling hurt in the school yard, do it with some facts and make a sound argument. Then I might listen to you and you will have a opportunity to earn some respect from The Cmdr and other posters.
[B]Check Ball![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3079812][b]Energy is the new world currency! [/b]
Thank your for the link. That is amazing.
The Dis United states of America better put in some work. I mean some serious work! Like [I]we are going to moon because it is hard[/I] work, when it comes to energy production. It's really NOT a political issue. It is a economic issue. Energy is the currency of the world. The Oil markets exist to deliver it refineries around the world a price that allows them the margins to turn it into gasoline, diesel and jet fuel. Personally I think those are going to be needed for a long time as we transition to an electro-state. But one thing cannot be argued, the Dis United States of America needs more electricity production.
[URL]https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ai-data-center-growth-utilities-generation-plans/825541/[/URL]
Pivot to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is energy turned into a digital form that can be used to exchange value at the speed of light throughout the world. Think about it![/QUOTE]WOW! That's some powerful and insightful rethinking about the nature of money! 'Tis great to see some diverse thinking on energy for a change, rather then the typical MAGA fossil fuel outdated rhetoric.
I have to admit, I've never thought about bitcoin that way before. I believe your thinking and statement on energy as a currency, is valid and very profound, as I've often argued that the "free" nature and abundance of renewable energy, has the power to fairly democratize, equalize and radicalize, energy for everyone in the world.
Yes, the generation of Bitcoin does indeed fit quite well with how to use the excess abundance of renewable energy. But unfortunately, I remain, somewhat of a Bitcoin Blockhead. I suspect largely due a lack of understanding and I haven't yet taken the time to explore said digital technological as a currency.
That said, you've given me something to think about, by introducing Bitcoin as energy currency, that is really just technological energy, that persists, [B]as a durable digital monetary asset,[/B] is very eyeopening.
Although, it remains to be seen, if bitcoin technologies can truly transformative and [B]"democratize"[/B] digital money. [I]Okay, okay...[/I]so can it, "democratize" digital money, or is this maybe too much in the weeds, or too woke, or just naive thinking on my part? Do you see bitcoin (energy as a currency), being as transformative as renewable clean energy tech, bringing an available and stable form of digital currency to the worldwide masses, largely possible, due to clean excess and abundant renewable free energy?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080125]Here is a comparison of sodium and lithium power stations: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9k8dsApWIM[/URL]
And I was super impressed with the sodium power station.[/QUOTE]Sodium power stations [I]...Your strength of sodium-ion batteries, lies within the comparison of [b]small portable power stations...[/b]REALLY?[/I].
[NOPARSE]Dude, you do realize, that while CATL's Naxtra sodium-ion cells have reached 165-175 Wh/kg in mass production, and are nipping at the heels of mainstream LFP's (170-205 Wh/kg), the rapid advancement in sodium-ions have a very credible range outlook of 200 Wh/kg by as early as 2028.
Advanced sodium-ion battery prototypes are now approaching 200 Wh/kg. An international team of scientists has reviewed recent advances in sodium-ion battery components, highlighting their potential as a lower-cost, more sustainable alternative to lithium-ion batteries.[/NOPARSE] [URL]https://www.pv-magazine.com/2026/08/10/advanced-sodium-ion-battery-prototypes-now-approaching-200-wh-kg/[/URL].
[B]AND FOR GOOD MEASURE:[/B]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3076117]Sodium-ion batteries store less energy by weight or volume, which means that you need bigger batteries to store the same amount of energy compared to lithium batteries. This limits their appeal for mobile devices and electric vehicles where manufacturers are inclined toward lightweight solutions.
So yeah, maybe sodium batteries have a place over Lithium with regards to batteries that do not need to be moved, but if they have to be moved around in something like an EV, they are inferior to Lithium. [b]That is just physics.[/b][/QUOTE]Okay, so let's take a look at yet another Chinese company, CATL (other than the last posted, HiNas Starfish who give use the world's first 676 kWh sodium-ion electric mining truck), provide a large scale commercial example rather than an large scale industrial scale example (as if that wasn't convincing enough), of our China keeps defying MAGA laws of physics, shall we?
[NOPARSE]Don't forget...the Changan Nevo A06 (due out in Q3-2026), is the world's first mass-produced mainstream passenger electric vehicle to feature a sodium-ion battery. Developed through a partnership between Changan Automobile and battery giant CATL, the mid-size sedan utilizes a 45 kWh CATL Naxtra sodium-ion battery pack, delivering over 400 kilometers (approx. 249 miles), of CLTC [/NOPARSE]range. [URL]https://carnewschina.com/2026/02/05/changan-and-catl-unveil-worlds-first-mass-produced-sodium-ion-passenger-ev/[/URL] or [URL]https://www.catl.com/en/news/6720.html[/URL].
I just love it, when I don't have to do any hard lifting, by constantly updating, debunking and educating, the misinformed. Just sit back and allow the [I][b]Electrotech Universe,[/b] to tell them...WTF are you talking about or STFU already![/I]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080079]President Trump won mainly because of the migration chaos brought on by Biden and Kamala just like Biden was able to win the election in 2020 because of the global COVID 19 pandemic and the chaos created by the liberals in USA to be able to win the Presidential election against President Trump.
The three states you mentioned have a population of 30 million people, a 100 k is less than 0. 5% of the totalt population.
Two other things; many were surprised and very impressed by how well President Trump did in many states, not at least the blue states affected by Biden&Kamala's open border policy.
BTW, didn't also Nevada, Georgia, Arizona turn red in the beautiful 2024 Presidential win for President Trump?
Oh well, Latin migrants coming to USA shouldn't be considered as enemies and mistreated but neither should law enforcement such as ICE. The failed and extremely counterproductive border policy by Biden and Kamala undoubtedly undermined the American people's desire for a generous migration policy.[/QUOTE]Had approximately 114,900 of the Muslim voters in PA, MI, and WI, or less than 0. 75 of a single percentage point of the votes in those three targeted states, not swung from their usual Dem candidate vote to the Repub candidate, Trump would not be president today.
No swing by any typically Dem voting demographic in any other states on any other issues was enough to make up for the loss of Electorate College votes that one demographic in those three states on that one issue would have meant to the outcome. The Muslim Community Leaders in those states knew that could be the case before the election, the pollsters knew it, the various campaign directors knew it, Musk knew it, Netanyahu knew it, Trump knew it, Harris knew it and after that one group's relatively tiny handful swing in those three targeted states did indeed "give Trump the presidency", they took credit for it and Trump did not refute that conclusion.
Otherwise, no typically Dem-voting demographic "left" the Democratic Party or the Democratic candidate in enough numbers to flip a typically Blue state or hand Trump a "winning" Electoral College vote from anywhere in the country on any other issue. Dem voters handed Harris the Dem / Blue states and Repub voters handed Trump the Repub / Red states. As usually is the case. Neither any perceived "failure" by the Biden administration nor "glorious promise and success" by Trump changes that predictable pattern one iota.
Those three states clinched the win for Trump and by razor-thin margins. Without that happening, Trump is not president today, Harris is:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]
And all it took was for Netanyahu to strategically delay the exact same ceasefire agreement negotiated by Biden in May 2024 until after the election and for the consequently riled up Muslim Community Leaders in the region of those three states to motivate and get out the vote of their Community on that one issue to make it happen for Trump:
[B]Trump's Muslim backers say he fulfilled election promise on Gaza
Muslim allies, who rallied the American minority to vote for Donald Trump in November election, give credit to Trump for Gaza truce deal and say the Republican leader delivered his election promise even before Day 1 in office.
Jan. 16, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.trtworld.com/article/18254320[/URL]
[QUOTE]On Wednesday, as the ceasefire deal was announced by Qatar, one of the chief mediators, Trump wasted no time in declaring he was the main force behind the agreement.
"This EPIC ceasefire agreement could have only happened as a result of our Historic Victory in November, as it signalled to the entire World that my Administration would seek Peace and negotiate deals to ensure the safety of all Americans, and our Allies," Trump wrote on social media.
Minutes later, US President Joe Biden joined the fray and claimed credit for the deal. [B]He asserted the agreement was reached under "the precise contours" of a plan that he set out some eight months ago[/b].[/QUOTE]And, as usual, Joe Biden's assertion was correct.
Of course, Trump immediately stabbed those Muslim Community Leaders in the back after they foolishly swung enough votes away from Harris across those three states on that one issue to give him that razor-thin win. LOL:
[B]Trump's pro-Israel cabinet picks upset Muslims who voted for him.
Nov. 16, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/[/URL]
[QUOTE]WASHINGTON, Nov 14 (Reuters) - U.S. Muslim leaders who supported Republican Donald Trump to protest against the Biden administration's support for Israel's war on Gaza and attacks on Lebanon have been deeply disappointed by his cabinet picks, they tell Reuters.
[B]"Trump won because of us and we're not happy with his secretary of state pick and others,"[/b] said Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the Abandon Harris campaign in Pennsylvania and co-founded Muslims for Trump.[/QUOTE]Have you got any links to credinle and verifiable sources that shows otherwise with actual numbers, stats and results? So far neither you nor anybody else making your claim has been able to do so.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3080154]WOW! That's some powerful and insightful rethinking about the nature of money! 'Tis great to see some diverse thinking on energy for a change, rather then the typical MAGA fossil fuel outdated rhetoric.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you see the potential. I threw the comment out there thinking it would just get over looked because so many of the MAGA posters think everyone has a side. My side the human side.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3080154]I have to admit, I've never thought about bitcoin that way before. I believe your thinking and statement on energy as a currency, is valid and very profound, as I've often argued that the "free" nature and abundance of renewable energy, has the power to fairly democratize, equalize and radicalize, energy for everyone in the world.[/QUOTE]Bitcoin is doing that in parts of the world.
Africa now accounts for 3% of the global Bitcoin mining hashrate, with the vast majority of this activity (2. 5%) concentrated in Ethiopia, which has emerged as the continent's primary mining hub due to its cheap, abundant renewable hydroelectric power.
[URL]https://www.forbesafrica.com/current-affairs/2025/09/25/could-bitcoin-mining-power-rural-africa[/URL]
Bitcoin mining in Texas utilizes stranded energyexcess power from oil and gas drilling (often flared methane) and renewable sources like wind and solar that cannot be transmitted to population centers due to grid congestion.
[URL]https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-miners-saved-the-texas-power-grid-from-collapse-but-their-lucrative-pivot-to-ai-is-stripping-away-the-emergency-brake/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spidy;3080154]Yes, the generation of Bitcoin does indeed fit quite well with how to use the excess abundance of renewable energy. But unfortunately, I remain, somewhat of a Bitcoin Blockhead. I suspect largely due a lack of understanding and I haven't yet taken the time to explore said digital technological as a currency.[/QUOTE]I just need one person to explore Bitcoin to see if it works for them in their lives.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3080154]That said, you've given me something to think about, by introducing Bitcoin as energy currency, that is really just technological energy, that persists, [B]as a durable digital monetary asset,[/B] is very eyeopening.[/QUOTE]Bitcoin is a opt in system. Just like putting solar on your roof.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3080154]Although, it remains to be seen, if bitcoin technologies can truly transformative and [B]"democratize"[/B] digital money. [I]Okay, okay...[/I]so can it, "democratize" digital money, or is this maybe too much in the weeds, or too woke, or just naive thinking on my part? [/QUOTE]If you look at the incentives of Bitcoin. It changes you from a high time preference to a low time preference thinker.
[QUOTE]Low time preference is an economic and psychological concept describing a tendency to value future benefits highly, prioritizing long-term gains over immediate gratification. Individuals with this trait are characterized by patience, delayed gratification, and a focus on future stability, often leading to behaviors such as saving, investing, and acquiring durable goods.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.sazmining.com/blog/understanding-high-and-low-time-preference[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spidy;3080154]Do you see bitcoin (energy as a currency), being as transformative as renewable clean energy tech, bringing an available and stable form of digital currency to the worldwide masses, largely possible, due to clean excess and abundant renewable free energy?[/QUOTE]My brother Bitcoin is already transforming those who opt in. The problem is education. [B]Bitcoin is hard![/B]. I speak on it with friends. They say [I]number go up[/I] only. They see it in terms of fiat currency. I don't see Bitcoin that way. I see it as money. I can use it to exchange value with anyone in the world.
[B]Bitcoin is deflationary[/B] We are taught that inflation is good. It is not. The natural state of a free market is deflationary. The cost of everything should go to zero. It does not due to the inflationary nature of fiat currency. Bitcoin will allow all of our fellow human beings on earth to benefit from our joint production. Some will have more Bitcoin than others. But the value of Bitcoin is fixed. That means once you own a Sat it will always be worth one Sat. Never less. Now the value of that Sat may go up. But only to the people who provide value in order to earn that Sat from you.
[B]Bitcoin will not change human nature![/B] The question for me is: [I]Is human nature inherently good[/I]?
If human nature is not, then Bitcoin ultimately will be co-opted by the system and we will be back to the same ole same ole problems of the fiat currency system. But if Bitcoin remains, secure, free and independent then it will be transformative to the world. But only for the people who see the potential like you and I. It is possible for Bitcoin to change the world because Bitcoin can change the money. The incentives are there. But it requires each and every individual to adopt it. Those who do so before others will receive the most benefits. It will create an incentive to provide value. The value that is provided will help us all. Because the currency we use will never decline in value. I do not watch the price of Bitcoin in fiat currency. The price of Bitcoin is unimportant to me. What is important is my flow and my stack.
[B]Stack Sats![/B]
When your crazy Trump wanted to build a beach resort in Gaza and kick Muslims away, to thank them for his election. Same than Black, Latins, women, how could they be so no brained to vote for him, when he hates all of them.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080130]You need to look back on your history.
Well, that explains your anti-Muslim POV.
I never said I want them to prosper. I was responding to your ridiculously flawed binary argument.
And here we go again. You have no clue if the government were toppled that the new one would not be worse than the old. The Iranian regime is not even close to the genocidal levels of other regimes.
Sharia law is the pretense that allows the religious leaders to steal their people blind. You do not know one person in the regime or what is going on at the ground level. All you know is Jewish propaganda.
I do care; it is you whose only answer to anything is killing people and changing the leadership without knowing who the new leadership is or whether they would be better or worse.[/QUOTE]You're aware of the Islamic revolution in 1979? Iran has been attacking Americans and Europeans ever since.
Operation Ajax ceased to be relevant many years ago.
It's fascinating how you say that you care about Iranians but you keep going on and on about how the the Iranian regime consists of good people even though they are responsible for murdering tens of thousands of innocent civilian Iranians. It truly doesn't make any sense. How can you claim that you support the Iranian people but not find it morally justified that USA is taking out the people responsible for slaughtering Iranian civilians?
I have close friends with relatives still living in Iran and they support regime change since the current regime consists of the worst people Iran has to offer.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080169]Had approximately 114,900 of the Muslim voters in PA, MI, and WI, or less than 0. 75 of a single percentage point of the votes in those three targeted states, not swung from their usual Dem candidate vote to the Repub candidate, Trump would not be president today.
No swing by any typically Dem voting demographic in any other states on any other issues was enough to make up for the loss of Electorate College votes that one demographic in those three states on that one issue would have meant to the outcome. The Muslim Community Leaders in those states knew that could be the case before the election, the pollsters knew it, the various campaign directors knew it, Musk knew it, Netanyahu knew it, Trump knew it, Harris knew it and after that one group's relatively tiny handful swing in those three targeted states did indeed "give Trump the presidency", they took credit for it and Trump did not refute that conclusion.
Otherwise, no typically Dem-voting demographic "left" the Democratic Party or the Democratic candidate in enough numbers to flip a typically Blue state or hand Trump a "winning" Electoral College vote from anywhere in the country on any other issue. Dem voters handed Harris the Dem / Blue states and Repub voters handed Trump the Repub / Red states. As usually is the case. Neither any perceived "failure" by the Biden administration nor "glorious promise and success" by Trump changes that predictable pattern one iota.
Those three states clinched the win for Trump and by razor-thin margins. Without that happening, Trump is not president today, Harris is:.[/QUOTE]President won the election for three reasons:
1. The economy and rising costs of living.
2. The border crisis.
3. Trump was simply a better candidate than Kamala.
Kamala also lost voters for being perceived as anti-Israeli.
Lolol. Remember when Trump called a special press conference to tell everyone to go online to see how Russia Russia Russia was a "hoax" and that there was all this evidence that foreign influence rigged the election that he lost in a landslide to Joe Biden, then it turned out the Intel actually showed the foreign influence was trying to damage the Biden campaign and help Trump win?
Well, Blithering Numbskull Liar Trump done it again!
And, no, this is not a report only published by The Guardian. It can be found in many other credible Real News sources. But The Guardian allows links to its reports without being blocked behind a pay wall.
[B]Trump shows off article on lower drug prices that says Biden deserves credit, not him.
US president credits himself with lowest drug prices in 60 years, when article says drop is more likely due to Biden.
Aug. 15, 2026[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/15/trump-washington-post-drug-prices[/URL]
[QUOTE]The White House flooded social media on Saturday with an image of Donald Trump showing off the recent Washington Post headline Prescription drug prices record sharpest drop in more than 60 years, but failed to mention that experts cited in the article actually attributed the price drop to Joe Biden, not Trump.
..........
What the president did not say is that the text of the article, published by the Post on Thursday, reported that while the Trump White House took credit for the biggest year-over-year drop in drug prices in more than 60 years in July, independent experts said a Biden-era policy that requires Medicare to negotiate prices for some popular prescription drugs is more likely to be driving down costs.
[B]"The Inflation Reduction Act was a signature accomplishment of former president Joe Biden, a sprawling measure enacted in 2022 that aimed to lower prescription drug prices by requiring Medicare, the federal health program for the elderly, to begin negotiating the prices it pays drugmakers for an array of popular and costly prescription drugs, the Posts report noted. The first price reductions took effect at the beginning of this year.[/b][/QUOTE]Not one Repub voted for that Biden / Dem legislation. But Repub Icon of Icons and every other Repub will be falling all over themselves to take credit for something historically positive for the American people that was proposed, fought for and passed by Dems when they occupied the White House and held the Majorities in the House and Senate.
As usual. Lolol.
Thanks, Joe.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080209]President won the election for three reasons:
1. The economy and rising costs of living.
2. The border crisis.
3. Trump was simply a better candidate than Kamala.
Kamala also lost voters for being perceived as anti-Israeli.[/QUOTE]Except that if approximately 114,900 of the hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters spread across PA, MI, and WI hadn't swung their usual Dem candidate votes away from Harris on the one issue the Muslim Community Leaders in those states said they were encouraging their Community to do and in accordance with what Musk money was targeting them to do and what Netanyahu's manipulation of the timing of his honoring the ceasefire until after the election was meant to do, Trump would not have won the election. Harris would have won.
None of the unsubstantiated and unsupported by the facts reasons you listed was the reason that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only three swing states that mattered swung their votes away from Harris and thereby "gave Trump the presidency. ".
LOL. Ever wonder why Trump's supposed "superior" policies on the issues you and your Mainstream Media puppeteers think were so much in his favor for the election dropped like a rock in a pond in the polls within just a few months after he supposedly "won the election" on those issues? Even among the dumb Repub hillbillies who voted for him?
That's because those weren't the reasons he won. The only reason he won was that narrow edge he had exactly where it counted among one demographic on one issue in the only three swing states that mattered and thanks almost entirely to a decision Netanyahu made on that one issue in order to put his boy in the White House.
And now you know why his boy had to pay Netanyahu back for that tremendous favor with the money, standing, blood and lives of the American people in his utterly made up reasoned Repub quagmire War of Choice in Iran based on a Repub lie.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080247]Except that if approximately 114,900 of the hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters spread across PA, MI, and WI hadn't swung their usual Dem candidate votes away from Harris on the one issue the Muslim Community Leaders in those states said they were encouraging their Community to do and in accordance with what Musk money was targeting them to do and what Netanyahu's manipulation of the timing of his honoring the ceasefire until after the election was meant to do, Trump would not have won the election. Harris would have won.
None of the unsubstantiated and unsupported by the facts reasons you listed was the reason that relatively tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only three swing states that mattered swung their votes away from Harris and thereby "gave Trump the presidency. ".
LOL. Ever wonder why Trump's supposed "superior" policies on the issues you and your Mainstream Media puppeteers think were so much in his favor for the election dropped like a rock in a pond in the polls within just a few months after he supposedly "won the election" on those issues? Even among the dumb Repub hillbillies who voted for him?e.[/QUOTE]You sure have a vivid imagination that is no way backed up by reality.
Did 77,302,580 Muslims vote for President Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
It's funny how President Trump won the election in 2016 while campaigning on a Muslim ban, did he win thanks to Muslims back then as well? What you write says nothing about reality but everything about you.
As I have said before:
1. It's the economy!
2. It's the border crisis!
3. President Trump was a way better candidate than Kamala according to the American people.
By the way; President won Pennsylvania and Michigan by a large margin. I was surprised to see how easily Trump won those states, he won Pennsylvania by 120'000 votes! That's impressive! I thought it was much closer, but it wasn't even close. He won Wisconsin by a landslide relatively to the number of Muslim voters in that state.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3078960]I think Trump going to war with Iran was a mistake. Now can you do that? Can you disagree with anything the Democratic Party or Israel has done?[/QUOTE]If it was a mistake, how do we get out of it then in a way that promotes American interests? Produce a map claiming the Strait of Hormuz to be American territory? Easy peasy right? Just like producing a map proclaiming that the Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America. That was easy! Serious, what are your ideas then? How do we end this disaster where we have sailors out to sea for 9 months without a single port call running low on food, broken toilets, a lack of clean water, no toiletries, etc?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080317]You sure have a vivid imagination that is no way backed up by reality.
Did 77,302,580 Muslims vote for President Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
It's funny how President Trump won the election in 2016 while campaigning on a Muslim ban, did he win thanks to Muslims back then as well? What you write says nothing about reality but everything about you.
As I have said before:
1. It's the economy!
2. It's the border crisis!
3. President Trump was a way better candidate than Kamala according to the American people.
By the way; President won Pennsylvania and Michigan by a large margin. I was surprised to see how easily Trump won those states, he won Pennsylvania by 120'000 votes! That's impressive! I thought it was much closer, but it wasn't even close. He won Wisconsin by a landslide relatively to the number of Muslim voters in that state.[/QUOTE][B]2024 Election[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]
[B]National:[/B]
Trump, 77,302,680 votes.
49.8%.
Harris, 75,017,613 votes.
48.3%.
A 1. 5 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 751 point swing would have given Harris the popular vote advantage, for those interested in popular vote numbers in a presidential election.
[B]Michigan:[/B]
Trump, 2,816,363 votes.
49.7%.
Harris, 2,736,533 votes.
48.3%.
A 1.42 percentage point margin, meaning a 0.72 point swing would have given Harris Michigan's Electoral College votes.
[B]Pennsylvania:[/B]
Trump, 3,543,308 votes.
50.3%.
Harris, 3,423,042 votes.
48.6%.
A 1.71 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 86 point swing would have given Harris Pennsylvania's Electoral College votes.
[B]Wisconsin:[/B]
Trump, 1,697,626 votes.
Harris, 1,668,229 votes.
246,790 votes separated Trump from Harris in the only three swing states that mattered, meaning a swing of 123,396 votes would have flipped the outcome.
A 1. 18 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 60 swing would have given Harris Wisconsin's Electoral College votes and the win.
246,790 votes separated Trump from Harris in the only three swing states that mattered, meaning a swing of 123,396 votes spread across those three states would have flipped the outcome of the election. That is about 8,495 more than the number I have been stating. But the total official count has increased since November 2024 and it doesn't meaningfully change the percentage point swing needed to have flipped the outcome.
The average margin for those three swing states was 1.43 point, meaning a swing of 0.72 point across those three swing states would have been plenty to change the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. Most of us knows that is less than a 1 percentage point margin that made the difference in the outcome. That swing is less than the 0.75 percentage point swing I have been stating was enough to make the difference.
A. I. Tells me there are approximately 461,800 Muslims living in MI, PA and WI. If only half of them could vote and only 54% of those Muslim voters swung their Community's usual Dem vote away from Harris in accordance to that Pennsylvania Muslim Community Leader's accurate claim I linked to previously that his group's ground game efforts, intensely motivated by Netanyahu's delay of Biden's ceasefire agreement until after the election, won the election for Trump, that resulting 124,686 vote swing would have been plenty to change the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. And none of them needed to give a damn about the Economy or Immigration to run to the polls to vote "against" the Biden Administration in response to that ground game and Netanyau's clever timing.
BTW, are those really considered "large margins" in Canada? None of them even reached a 2 percentage point margin nor needed as much as a 1 percentage point swing to flip the outcome!
If only 0.72 of a single percentage point of votes spread across the only three swing states that mattered had not swung away from Harris due to Netanyahu's clever delaying of Joe Biden's May 2024 negotiated ceasefire agreement until after the election, we would not today be looking at higher gas prices and a higher rate of inflation than Biden handed to Trump, a new Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, Trillions of dollars more added to the deficit with zero to show for it, pathetic jobs creation numbers with stagnant wage gains lagging behind the rate of inflation and a president praising and publicly blowing Communist leaders around the world while threatening to bomb or invade our allies, brushing off our military and their families as though they are nothing more than "losers" and launching into one move after another to rig elections and overthrow American democracy.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080317]You sure have a vivid imagination that is no way backed up by reality.
Did 77,302,580 Muslims vote for President Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
It's funny how President Trump won the election in 2016 while campaigning on a Muslim ban, did he win thanks to Muslims back then as well? What you write says nothing about reality but everything about you.
As I have said before:
1. It's the economy!
2. It's the border crisis!
3. President Trump was a way better candidate than Kamala according to the American people.
By the way; President won Pennsylvania and Michigan by a large margin. I was surprised to see how easily Trump won those states, he won Pennsylvania by 120'000 votes! That's impressive! I thought it was much closer, but it wasn't even close. He won Wisconsin by a landslide relatively to the number of Muslim voters in that state.[/QUOTE]Can you explain why we are such deep shit with Trump. The man has no focus it's reflecting pool one day and White House remodel another day. The man is falling apart. He got us stuck in this war with Iran that we can't get of. Then dumbass and Pete Hegsesth blew through the munitions they had. What is that about? We have a cluster fuck as President.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080377]If it was a mistake, how do we get out of it then in a way that promotes American interests? Produce a map claiming the Strait of Hormuz to be American territory? Easy peasy right? Just like producing a map proclaiming that the Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America. That was easy![/QUOTE]The objective was not to win. It was to juice the companies building the war machine. It was to show that the Dis United States of America no longer has global reach. It cannot keep the supply chain up for its ships. It shows that the Dis United States of America can no longer project global power. That is why it needs Japan to take the gloves off. It is the only country with a historical warrior culture and operational blue water fleet knowledge. In the next kinetic conflict it will be Japan that keeps China in check if they take the gloves off and put in work now!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080377]Serious, what are your ideas then? How do we end this disaster where we have sailors out to sea for 9 months without a single port call running low on food, broken toilets, a lack of clean water, no toiletries, etc?[/QUOTE]The problem is that the logistical chain is broken. It starts at the top with a incompetent Secretary of Defense and unqualified Flag and General officers because they were picked for loyalty not war fighting competence in the ultimate display of well you know.
[B]Hegseth removes 2 Black and 2 female officers from promotion list[/B]
[URL]https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5804541-pete-hegseth-pentagon-promotion-list/[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080389][B]2024 Election[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]
[B]National:[/B]
Trump, 77,302,680 votes.
49.8%.
Harris, 75,017,613 votes.
48.3%.
A 1. 5 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 751 point swing would have given Harris the popular vote advantage, for those interested in popular vote numbers in a presidential election.
[B]Michigan:[/B]
Trump, 2,816,363 votes.
49.7%.
Harris, 2,736,533 votes.
48.3%.
A 1.42 percentage point margin, meaning a 0.72 point swing would have given Harris Michigan's Electoral College votes.
[B]Pennsylvania:[/B]
Trump, 3,543,308 votes.
50.3%.
Harris, 3,423,042 votes.
48.6%.
A 1.71 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 86 point swing would have given Harris Pennsylvania's Electoral College votes.
[B]Wisconsin:[/B]
Trump, 1,697,626 votes.
Harris, 1,668,229 votes.
246,790 votes separated Trump from Harris in the only three swing states that mattered, meaning a swing of 123,396 votes would have flipped the outcome.
A 1. 18 percentage point margin, meaning a 0. 60 swing would have given Harris Wisconsin's Electoral College votes and the win.
246,790 votes separated Trump from Harris in the only three swing states that mattered, meaning a swing of 123,396 votes spread across those three states would have flipped the outcome of the election. That is about 8,495 more than the number I have been stating. But the total official count has increased since November 2024 and it doesn't meaningfully change the percentage point swing needed to have flipped the outcome.
The average margin for those three swing states was 1.43 point, meaning a swing of 0.72 point across those three swing states would have been plenty to change the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. Most of us knows that is less than a 1 percentage point margin that made the difference in the outcome. That swing is less than the 0.75 percentage point swing I have been stating was enough to make the difference.
A. I. Tells me there are approximately 461,800 Muslims living in MI, PA and WI. If only half of them could vote and only 54% of those Muslim voters swung their Community's usual Dem vote away from Harris in accordance to that Pennsylvania Muslim Community Leader's accurate claim I linked to previously that his group's ground game efforts, intensely motivated by Netanyahu's delay of Biden's ceasefire agreement until after the election, won the election for Trump, that resulting 124,686 vote swing would have been plenty to change the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. And none of them needed to give a damn about the Economy or Immigration to run to the polls to vote "against" the Biden Administration in response to that ground game and Netanyau's clever timing.
BTW, are those really considered "large margins" in Canada? None of them even reached a 2 percentage point margin nor needed as much as a 1 percentage point swing to flip the outcome!
If only 0.72 of a single percentage point of votes spread across the only three swing states that mattered had not swung away from Harris due to Netanyahu's clever delaying of Joe Biden's May 2024 negotiated ceasefire agreement until after the election, we would not today be looking at higher gas prices and a higher rate of inflation than Biden handed to Trump, a new Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, Trillions of dollars more added to the deficit with zero to show for it, pathetic jobs creation numbers with stagnant wage gains lagging behind the rate of inflation and a president praising and publicly blowing Communist leaders around the world while threatening to bomb or invade our allies, brushing off our military and their families as though they are nothing more than "losers" and launching into one move after another to rig elections and overthrow American democracy.[/QUOTE]There are more than three swing states in USA, just in the last election Arizona, Nevada and Georgia also turned red.
President Trump made massive gains among Latinos and Afro-Americans males. It's interesting how you have turned a blind eye on that part.
President Trump won the Caucasian vote.
You don't win elections by pandering to a small religious group, by the way; how many Jewish voters are there in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?
You don't win elections by alienating regular Americans and Jewish Americans to win votes from muslim voters.
Also, why was Kamala unable to get more votes from the larger groups of voters? You don't win elections with 300'000 votes. You need almost 80 million votes, and those votes requires the candidate to form policies which appeal to the general population. Aka Caucasians, Afro-Americans, Latinos and Asians.
If you ever want the Democrats to win another presidential election you should look at Nevada and Arizona and learn from that defeat.
Here's the truth; Kamala couldn't have won the election no matter how the Muslims voted.
She could possibly have won in Michigan, but she wasn't even close to do it in PA and Wisconsin and she needed all three states.
We also need to remember that we don't know for sure how certain religious groups voted, or do you have the numbers for each state?
Aren't Americans notorious for voting with their wallets? It's the economy.
[QUOTE]Liberia has agreed to accept up to 1,200 third-country deportees from the United States, authorities in the West African country said Tuesday, in one of the largest such arrangements under the Trump administrations policy aimed at deterring illegal migration.[/QUOTE][URL]https://abcnews.com/International/wireStory/liberia-agrees-1200-deportees-us-135749730[/URL]
[QUOTE]Immigration lawyers have said the Trump administration uses deportations to third countries as a legal loophole to indirectly force asylum seekers back to their home countries. In many cases, migrants are deported to countries they've never been to or where they face safety risks and are left with little choice other than to return to the home countries they were fleeing from.[/QUOTE][URL]https://isp.netscape.com/news/world/story/0001/20260818/fc41b96abc6f26a9b780ce871b269951[/URL]
So in this case it is legal but is it moral and keeping with the spirit of what the Dis United States of America is supposed to be or represent?
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080377]If it was a mistake, how do we get out of it then in a way that promotes American interests? Produce a map claiming the Strait of Hormuz to be American territory? Easy peasy right? Just like producing a map proclaiming that the Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America. That was easy! Serious, what are your ideas then? How do we end this disaster where we have sailors out to sea for 9 months without a single port call running low on food, broken toilets, a lack of clean water, no toiletries, etc?[/QUOTE]Trump lost his war, less worst would be USA go home walking on their dick and hiding deeply and let others doing, when can t be worst than Trump and his gang. Mollahs who still lead Iran need to transit by Ormuz. Trump made a real messe like for everything and made USA being just ridiculous, missing now bullets. Except Netanyahou, our world where USA are less than 5% , hate USA of Trump. We look forward a much clever new one as soon as possible. Kick your crazy off on midterms.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/19/treasury-announces-upscaled-buyback-operation-for-longer-term-debt-sending-yields-lower.html[/URL]
Me and my fellow citizens that are [B]poor[/B] work our ass off for paper they print out of thin air.
[B]Stack Sats![/B]
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080377]If it was a mistake, how do we get out of it then in a way that promotes American interests? Produce a map claiming the Strait of Hormuz to be American territory? Easy peasy right? Just like producing a map proclaiming that the Gulf of Mexico is now the Gulf of America. That was easy! Serious, what are your ideas then? How do we end this disaster where we have sailors out to sea for 9 months without a single port call running low on food, broken toilets, a lack of clean water, no toiletries, etc?[/QUOTE]I am not defending Trump on this war. He screwed up.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080195]You're aware of the Islamic revolution in 1979? Iran has been attacking Americans and Europeans ever since.
Operation Ajax ceased to be relevant many years ago.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. The CIA put the Shah, a dictator, in power. During his time in power, the Shah had a SS like administration that tortured people, and the reason the Iranian leadership has been attacking the West ever since is for the reason of payback. I am not choosing a side. I am telling of another's POV. So when you say Ajax is irrelevant, you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080195]It's fascinating how you say that you care about Iranians but you keep going on and on about how the the Iranian regime consists of good people[/QUOTE]What? I said the leadership was made up of people who committed genocide. Where do you get that I said that they are good people?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080501]Oh brother. The CIA put the Shah, a dictator, in power. During his time in power, the Shah had a SS like administration that tortured people, and the reason the Iranian leadership has been attacking the West ever since is for the reason of payback. I am not choosing a side. I am telling of another's POV. So when you say Ajax is irrelevant, you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
What? I said the leadership was made up of people who committed genocide. Where do you get that I said that they are good people?[/QUOTE]What did the Iranian Islamist regime do with the Iranian socialists that toppled the Shah?
They imprisoned, tortured and murdered them.
What's the excuse for that? The Iranian socialists didn't support the shah, they just wanted a democratic Iran. For that the Iranian Islamist regime rewarded them with death.
It's beyond obvious that you have fallen for the Iranian regime's propaganda lies. Probably because you lack actual knowledge of Iran and the Middle East.
So spare me the excuses, the blood thirsty Iranian regime doesn't need any excuses to torture and murder people.
Or How about the tens of thousands civilians the genocidal Iranian regime killed earlier this year?
The Iranian regime hates everyone that aren't radical Islamists.
They hate USA because it's a Judeo-Christian / atheistic country with power to stop their jihadi goals.
They commit terrorist attacks in Europe because they perceive Europe as weak.
They terrorize the strait of Hormusz and Mandeb because they want to sabotage for the rest of the world. It's pure evil.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080468]There are more than three swing states in USA, just in the last election Arizona, Nevada and Georgia also turned red.
President Trump made massive gains among Latinos and Afro-Americans males. It's interesting how you have turned a blind eye on that part.
President Trump won the Caucasian vote.
You don't win elections by pandering to a small religious group, by the way; how many Jewish voters are there in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?
You don't win elections by alienating regular Americans and Jewish Americans to win votes from muslim voters..[/QUOTE]It didn't matter what Latinos or blacks or any other typically Dem-voting demographics did or what happened in any other states.
The three swing states with the closest margins and whose Electoral College votes put Trump in the White House again were MI, PA and WI. And those were the states that were specifically targeted by Muslim Community leaders to convince their unusually large percentage of Muslim voters to swing their usual Dem votes away from anyone in the Biden administration as retribution for its support for Israel, which they extrapolated to being support for Netanyahu, who they hated.
If as little a marginal swing from Trump back to Harris as was needed to put the MI, PA and WI Electoral College votes on Harris' side of the scoreboard had happened in ALL of the other swing states but not in MI, PA and WI, the outcome would still have been a Trump win.
[B]Swing State[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_state[/URL]
(See screenshot below).
Those three swing states were the only ones that mattered in the 2024 presidential election. And without a relatively small number of Muslim voters swinging their votes from Harris to Trump as their Leaders told them to do and they were proud to take credit for doing in order to "give Trump the presidency", Trump would not have won the presidency. Those three swing states were the first, last and only Electoral College votes Trump needed to win and would have been the first, last and only states that could have lost it for him.
You act as though you are ashamed to accept that your boy was put back into the White House in order to publicly praise and blow Communist dictators around the world, trash and threaten America's allies, plunge America into another Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, insult our military and their families, raise the price of gas and groceries, increase the rate of inflation, add Trillions of dollars to the deficit with zero to show for it, produce pathetically low private-sector jobs creation numbers with stagnant wages not keeping up with his inflation, lay the groundwork for the next Trump's Pandemic and so on thanks to a perfectly legitimate voting demographic swinging their votes from a Dem to your boy as a perfectly legitimate response to an issue entirely under control of Netanyahu.
Nobody did anything illegal to make that happen. Nobody had to rig the election to make that happen. It was ordinary, run of the mill American democracy and voting. Be proud of how and why that much democracy put your boy back in the White House.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080496]I am not defending Trump on this war. He screwed up.[/QUOTE]I'm not asking you to defend it. I was asking for your thoughts on how do we get out of it in a way that serves American interests?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080543]It didn't matter what Latinos or blacks or any other typically Dem-voting demographics did or what happened in any other states.
The three swing states with the closest margins and whose Electoral College votes put Trump in the White House again were MI, PA and WI. And those were the states that were specifically targeted by Muslim Community leaders to convince their unusually large percentage of Muslim voters to swing their usual Dem votes away from anyone in the Biden administration as retribution for its support for Israel, which they extrapolated to being support for Netanyahu, who they hated.
If as little a marginal swing from Trump back to Harris as was needed to put the MI, PA and WI Electoral College votes on Harris' side of the scoreboard had happened in ALL of the other swing states but not in MI, PA and WI, the outcome would still have been a Trump win..[/QUOTE]Kamala lost 31 states and you want to blame a few thousand Muslim voters in Wisconsin even though their votes wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election.
I would love to criticize Trump for his pick of JD Vance as VP, his betrayal of the Kurds, his close relationship to the Qataris and the Turkish Islamist Recep Kelbdogan Erdogan and way too close and naive relationship with the Pakistanis and his distasteful fawning over the the jihadist al-Sharaa.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080549]I'm not asking you to defend it. I was asking for your thoughts on how do we get out of it in a way that serves American interests?[/QUOTE]Good question, but 1st here are the minimum requirements for a final successful outcome of this war that not only serves the interests of the USA, but also the entire Middle East and Western Europe:
1) no boots on the ground. No nation building.
2) no Iranian development of nuclear weapons. Period!
3) no more Iranian support of terrorist organizations. Period!
4) the Hormuz Straight remains an international waterway. Period!
Now what is required to achieve these goals? I think the answer is already in place. Namely a TOTAL AIRTIGHT BLOCKADE around Iran. It is estimated that Iran is losing about half a billion dollars per day and their current inflation rate is at 400% and going higher. Food shortages, the tip of the iceberg, are just the beginning. So, if the US enforces this blockade until Iran caves, and in the meantime, the US Airforce responds 10-fold to any attacks made by the Iranians on shipping in the center of the Hormuz Strait, for example, by destroying the electrical grid around Tehran: We Will Win and achieve goals 2 thru 4 without invading the country. It's militarily / economically inevitable. Of course, American politics may intervene in this war and snatch "defeat from the jaws of victory".
Actually, the exact quote is from Abraham Lincoln who said after the Battle of the Crater, "Only (General) Burnside could have managed such a coup, wringing one last spectacular defeat from the jaws of victory".
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080563]Kamala lost 31 states and you want to blame a few thousand Muslim voters in Wisconsin even though their votes wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election.
I would love to criticize Trump for his pick of JD Vance as VP, his betrayal of the Kurds, his close relationship to the Qataris and the Turkish Islamist Recep Kelbdogan Erdogan and way too close and naive relationship with the Pakistanis and his distasteful fawning over the the jihadist al-Sharaa.[/QUOTE]Kamala won every typically Blue state and Trump won every typically Red state. No typically Dem voting demographic flipped any typically Blue state to Trump or gave him a single winning Electoral College vote from those states. No matter how many more Latinos and Blacks said they were going to vote for Trump instead of Kamala, California and New York's Electoral College votes did not go to Trump. Nor did any other Electoral College votes from any other typically Blue state.
Yes, no matter how much they were bothered by Biden's historic recovery from the economic ravages of Trump's Pandemic to produce the Envy of the World Economy and how obvious it was then as it is now that Biden's USA Constitutionally-mandated immigration policies were key contributors to that historic economic recovery while keeping inflation lower than the double and triple-digit rates experienced around the globe while also creating millions more private-sector jobs for American citizens than all three previous Repub presidents combined.
As it did in 2016, it all came down to the only three swing states that mattered, MI, PA and WI. And as you now know perhaps for the first time, the marginal difference in those three swing states were razor-thin narrower than for any other swing state and therefore the fraction of that already razor-thin margin needed to have changed the outcome of the 2024 presidential election was among the razor-thin narrowest of any presidential election. Especially when you consider it only took about half of the voters from half of one demographic residents spread across those three states to abide by the urgent demand of their Community leaders, all those Musk campaign millions and their own strong and highly motivated feelings triggered by Netanyahu's clever delay of that ceasefire until after the election in anticipation that his doing so will put the only president dumb enough to plunge America into his desired Forever War back in the White House to do that exact dumb thing to give Trump the win.
It is doubtful that particular sentiment will still exist or matter so such among that one demographic spread across those three swing states or that Netanyahu will have nearly as much control over the outcome of a USA Presidential election again. So you needn't worry too much about the presidential election fortunes of the Dem Party for a long while no matter who their nominee is, whether it is Ossoff, Kelly, Shapiro, Harris or anyone else.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3080549]I'm not asking you to defend it. I was asking for your thoughts on how do we get out of it in a way that serves American interests?[/QUOTE]After WW2, there was this agreement that the USA's navy would keep the world's waterways safe and clear, and we taxpayers fought the bill. NATO and the UN were the answer to keep Europe from fighting more wars, but this was 80 years ago. The USA is self sufficient in oil, and this is not 1945. I think it is time we tell the world we are no longer the world's policeman. We don't need anything from the Middle East, so why are we paying to protect everyone? If Iran wants to collect tolls from ships that pass through, I don't know why that is our problem.
You will hear the rhetoric. The USA cut and ran. Iran kicked America's ass. What I would tell anyone who thinks we should stay is that you are more than welcome to take your own money and your own guns and go out and defeat the Mullahs, and I will be cheering you on.
To me, the way to stop the war is to just quit fighting.
[QUOTE]Here are the minimum requirements for a final successful outcome of this war that not only serves the interests of the USA, but also the entire Middle East and Western Europe[/QUOTE]Wrong! The entities listed do not have shared nor common interests.
[QUOTE]1) no boots on the ground. No nation building.[/QUOTE]Then nothing will change. No war has ever been won with airpower alone. This a lesson that Military Leaders know but Politicians in all parties tend to forget.
[QUOTE]2) no Iranian development of nuclear weapons. Period![/QUOTE]Impossible desire. It's like saying you can contain knowledge. AI will make it possible for any nation that wants to build a nuclear weapon. That genie has long since left the bottle.
[QUOTE]3) no more Iranian support of terrorist organizations. Period![/QUOTE]One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. The individuals that started the Dis United States of America were once considered terrorists.
[QUOTE]4) the Hormuz Straight remains an international waterway. Period![/QUOTE]Possession and proximity are 9/10 ths of the law.
There is no military solution to the current conflict absent of a negotiated settlement or [I]boots on the ground[/I].
Can somebody tell me the price of BRENT Oil spot?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080599]After WW2, there was this agreement that the USA's navy would keep the world's waterways safe and clear, and we taxpayers fought the bill. NATO and the UN were the answer to keep Europe from fighting more wars, but this was 80 years ago. The USA is self sufficient in oil, and this is not 1945. I think it is time we tell the world we are no longer the world's policeman. We don't need anything from the Middle East, so why are we paying to protect everyone? If Iran wants to collect tolls from ships that pass through, I don't know why that is our problem. You will hear the rhetoric. The USA cut and ran. Iran kicked America's ass. What I would tell anyone who thinks we should stay is that you are more than welcome to take your own money and your own guns and go out and defeat the Mullahs, and I will be cheering you on. To me, the way to stop the war is to just quit fighting.[/QUOTE]And with $40 trillion dollars in debt, I 100% agree! One way to cut into all of that debt on the way back to fiscal responsibility is to stop trying to be the world's policeman and fighting wars all over the place all of the time. That costs one outrageous hell of a lot of money, both in wartime and keeping the peace time. The British did that, and look where it left them. And the Spanish did it before them (I could go on). Hell, one time in history Persia (Iran) did it! I'm talking political, economic, and military exhaustion. We're making the same damn mistake! You see, it [B]is[/B] possible to find common ground. Although, I don't 100% agree that we don't need absolutely [B]anything[/B] flowing through the Strait of Hormuz (fertilizer being one example).
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080591]Kamala won every typically Blue state and Trump won every typically Red state. No typically Dem voting demographic flipped any typically Blue state to Trump or gave him a single winning Electoral College vote from those states. No matter how many more Latinos and Blacks said they were going to vote for Trump instead of Kamala, California and New York's Electoral College votes did not go to Trump. Nor did any other Electoral College votes from any other typically Blue state.
Yes, no matter how much they were bothered by Biden's historic recovery from the economic ravages of Trump's Pandemic to produce the Envy of the World Economy and how obvious it was then as it is now that Biden's USA Constitutionally-mandated immigration policies were key contributors to that historic economic recovery while keeping inflation lower than the double and triple-digit rates experienced around the globe while also creating millions more private-sector jobs for American citizens than all three previous Repub presidents combined.
As it did in 2016, it all came down to the only three swing states that mattered, MI, PA and WI. And as you now know perhaps for the first time, the marginal difference in those three swing states were razor-thin narrower than for any other swing state and therefore the fraction of that already razor-thin margin needed to have changed the outcome of the 2024 presidential election was among the razor-thin narrowest of any presidential election..[/QUOTE]Shouldn't you ask yourself why Kamala wasn't able to get more votes from Caucasians, Afro-Americans and Latinos in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania?
Why couldn't Kamala win Georgia, Nevada and Arizona like Biden did in 2020 after the liberal's Covid lockdowns to create chaos in America?
President Trump won Wisconsin by winning the Caucasian vote and did better than expected among Latinos and Afro-American males. The group you're talking about didn't even matter.
Six states turned away from the Democrats, no states turned blue.
President Trump was even close to winning a bunch of blue states.
USA is a lot bigger than three states and states are not automatically a certain color.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080599] To me, the way to stop the war is to just quit fighting.[/QUOTE]I wish this was true Elvis, but I do not think declaring victory, and departing the region leaving the IRCG still in control of Iran will work. These boys are religious fanatics who want to rule the world. As soon as the US leaves the region and the oil money starts refilling their coffers, the IRCG will begin to rebuild their nuclear facilities and refinance their terrorist proxies with a vengeance. The Gulf States will have no choice but to buy their own nuclear weapons meanwhile Israeli already has nuclear weapons, but the scary thing is that nuclear deterrence does not work with real religious fanatics.
Isolation was a popular idea in the USA before Pearl Harbor. It is a popular notion now, but it will only leave Western Europe and the USA vulnerable to nuclear intimidation and attack once the IRCG gets its hands on the weaponry. They already said it: 9/11 was nothing, a pin prick. These Iranian fanatics would set off nuclear devices in Tel Avivi, London, or NYC right now if they had the means. They would deny any complicity in a detonation at the UN and they would not give a shit about the nuclear retaliation thinking they could absorb "limited" nuclear retaliation strikes from the West. If you don't understand their way of thinking, I can't explain it any better to you.
USA debt now over 40000 billions USD, growing fast under senile Trump who spend a lot for White House, thinking he is Julius Ceasar, or for his lost war. Without virtual money they use, any other country would bankrupt. And increasing inflation of course. Pay, Americans, pay. We also pay more expensive gasoline, only because Trump is stupid and now mollahs fuck all of us, when I hate to be fucked because of a stupid guy thinking he is king of the world, when I only see a robber loser.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080572]Good question, but 1st here are the minimum requirements for a final successful outcome of this war that not only serves the interests of the USA, but also the entire Middle East and Western Europe:
1) no boots on the ground. No nation building.
2) no Iranian development of nuclear weapons. Period!
3) no more Iranian support of terrorist organizations. Period!
4) the Hormuz Straight remains an international waterway. Period!
Now what is required to achieve these goals? I think the answer is already in place. Namely a TOTAL AIRTIGHT BLOCKADE around Iran..[/QUOTE]We are not in position to demand anything. We would have been better off leaving Iran alone. The first mistake was Trump scuttling the agreement that Obama got. There's no reason for Iran to agree to anything since Trump can't be trusted to keep his word. We are also out of missiles so military strikes are out.
We know Trump believes that those who serve in the military are "suckers and losers." he openly said so. It's entirely a non starter and nonsensical for anyone to believe that ground war in Iran is remotely possible. Anyone who suggests that should be signed up so they can go and fight on the front lines. This includes draft dodging Trump. Let's see if he'll send Barron up there.
There is no "we" if people like you can sleep on your couch while someone else is forced to fight an unnecessary war of choice. How come you won't go up there yourself?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080496]I am not defending Trump on this war. He screwed up. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3080599]I'm not asking you to defend it. I was asking for your thoughts on how do we get out of it in a way that serves American interests?[/QUOTE]What's new? The latest, [I]U.S./Israel fucked-up war,[/I] illegally waged against Iran, is per for the course, with MAGA incompetence and MAGA arrogance, that ultimately results in the phrase we all realize (it just takes others longer to realize that some), that [I][b]..."Everything the MAGA Fuhrer touches, turns to shit!"[/b][/I].
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3080599]To me, the way to stop the war is to just quit fighting.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it sounds simple and easy enough, but do ya think your MAGA Fuhrer, a woefully inadequate, incompetent and corrupt president, is able to "eat crow", take the loss and back-down gracefully, when he's surrounded sycophants, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue], bootlickers, and yes-man and women, not willing to tell him the difficult truths?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080654]I wish this was true Elvis, but I do not think declaring victory, and departing the region leaving the IRCG still in control of Iran will work. These boys are religious fanatics who want to rule the world. As soon as the US leaves the region and the oil money starts refilling their coffers, the IRCG will begin to rebuild their nuclear facilities and refinance their terrorist proxies with a vengeance. The Gulf States will have no choice but to buy their own nuclear weapons meanwhile Israeli already has nuclear weapons, but the scary thing is that nuclear deterrence does not work with real religious fanatics.
Isolation was a popular idea in the USA before Pearl Harbor. It is a popular notion now, but it will only leave Western Europe and the USA vulnerable to nuclear intimidation and attack once the IRCG gets its hands on the weaponry. They already said it: 9/11 was nothing, a pin prick. These Iranian fanatics would set off nuclear devices in Tel Avivi, London, or NYC right now if they had the means. They would deny any complicity in a detonation at the UN and they would not give a shit about the nuclear retaliation thinking they could absorb "limited" nuclear retaliation strikes from the West. If you don't understand their way of thinking, I can't explain it any better to you.[/QUOTE]We don't need to fight a "forever war" to deal with the IRGC (or anybody else for that matter). Just show up in the middle of the night from time to time with B2 bombers (and other effective weaponry) to destroy their "secret" nuclear infrastructure. I say it like that because it's not so secret at all. Not only do we know what they're doing and where they're doing it at, but we also know who is doing it too (targets for assassination), including from getting solid intel from inside of Iran itself. They have been so compromised from within that it's just shockingly, scary unbelievable! The Iranians look upon each other with deep fear, suspicion, and paranoia wondering who is working with the Israelis and the Americans. Some have been shot for being thought to be traitors. Maybe they were. Maybe they weren't. But no, I'm not for total pacification and no defense spending at all. No unilateral disarmament! I just think we need to do a better job of picking our shots and choosing much better how to spend on defense. The fact that we don't (trying to be the world's policeman for example) is a huge part of the reason for why we're in so much debt. I say nay to continuing down the path of "The Department of Defense (excuse me Department of War) simply asks of us and we giveth", with little or no resistance. [B]All[/B] spending needs to be on the table and subject to review and potential cuts, and that needs to include defense spending too. No more deficit spend and spend and spend while giving more and more and more tax cuts to people and businesses! That's fiscally irresponsible and will be part of the cause for our own ruin if we don't stop with the insanity. Less spending and more revenue to bring the budget back into balance!
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3080672] We are not in position to demand anything. We would have been better off leaving Iran alone. The first mistake was Trump scuttling the agreement that Obama got. [/QUOTE]The "agreement" that you speak of was total BS. Basically Barry bribed the Iranians billions of dollars to be good and wait until Barry's term in office was over and then go nuclear. And surprise, surprise, the Iranians cheated on the agreement anyway and began funneling the money towards nuclear enrichment without the rigorous international inspections the treaty had promised and furthermore Obama gave the Iranians piles of instant cash to supply their terrorist proxies. Thousands died as a result! This sums up what was fundamentally flawed with Obama's foreign policy which was never reality based. So, Trump was right in 2018 when he tore up this foolish one sided "agreement" and reimposed sanctions.
And if Trump had not acted in February 28th. 2026, the Iranians would have nuclear weapons right now which I assume you are ok with so don't give me some bull shit that the Iranians were abiding by the Obama treaty when Trump suspended it and the IRCG was not developing nuclear weapons and high-grade Uranium under that "agreement". I have a bridge for sale near Salton Sea in CA at a really good price. Are you interested?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3080672]We are not in position to demand anything. We would have been better off leaving Iran alone. The first mistake was Trump scuttling the agreement that Obama got. There's no reason for Iran to agree to anything since Trump can't be trusted to keep his word. We are also out of missiles so military strikes are out.
We know Trump believes that those who serve in the military are "suckers and losers." he openly said so. It's entirely a non starter and nonsensical for anyone to believe that ground war in Iran is remotely possible. Anyone who suggests that should be signed up so they can go and fight on the front lines. This includes draft dodging Trump. Let's see if he'll send Barron up there.
There is no "we" if people like you can sleep on your couch while someone else is forced to fight an unnecessary war of choice. How come you won't go up there yourself?[/QUOTE]This is a war of choice, chosen by the Iranian regime.
Trump gave them the option of a lucrative peace, but the Iranian regime turned it down.
Obama's deal was the worst deal I have ever seen and all the allies of USA became furious and couldn't understand how Obama could reward the Iran regime with a dream deal. Iran was allowed to build up their proxies and missile program and plotting on how and when to finalize their nuclear weapons. Not to mention the Iranian space program created to be able to strike US cities.
You can say what you want over what's happening, but this is caused by Obama and previous presidents which gave the Iranians time and money to build more weapons and proxies in the region.
Obama truly didn't understand the long term consequences of his gifts to the Iranian regime.
The driving force, the raison d'etre for the Iranian regime isn't money, it's their jihadi ideology.
Two other things; USA isn't out of missiles and the Iranian regime isn't in a position to make any demands. Why do you think the Iranians had to turn off the internet for several months? Why do you believe that Iran had to elect new military leaders and a new ayatollah? And no one has even seen the new ayatollah! It's not a sign of strength.
People thought the Iranian economy was in bad shape a year ago but now it has reached a new bottom low.
I promise you that no one would claim that USA had the upper hand if the roles were reversed, the Iranian regime is too afraid to even attack Israel.
You have to be able to separate reality from fiction.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3080672]We are not in position to demand anything. We would have been better off leaving Iran alone. The first mistake was Trump scuttling the agreement that Obama got. There's no reason for Iran to agree to anything since Trump can't be trusted to keep his word. We are also out of missiles so military strikes are out.
We know Trump believes that those who serve in the military are "suckers and losers." he openly said so. It's entirely a non starter and nonsensical for anyone to believe that ground war in Iran is remotely possible. Anyone who suggests that should be signed up so they can go and fight on the front lines. This includes draft dodging Trump. Let's see if he'll send Barron up there.[/QUOTE]Yes, nobody except Netanyahou and 39% blind Americans, trust Trump, same than Putin, 2 brothers liars. Because of Trump, Ormuz is blocked and big inflation.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080654]I wish this was true Elvis, but I do not think declaring victory, and departing the region leaving the IRCG still in control of Iran will work.[/QUOTE]Actually it would.
[B]Throwing good money after bad[/B] is an idiom describing the act of spending additional resources on a failing project or investment in a futile attempt to recover previous losses.
This is exactly what is currently going on in Iran. Along with sacrificing the mental health and reputation of crew members in the United States Navy on seaming endless deployments that are accomplishing very little because civilian leadership is failing them and does not have the political will do do what actually needs to be done ([I]boots on the ground[/I]).
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3080730]Actually it would.
[B]Throwing good money after bad[/B] is an idiom describing the act of spending additional resources on a failing project or investment in a futile attempt to recover previous losses.
This is exactly what is currently going on in Iran. Along with sacrificing the mental health and reputation of crew members in the United States Navy on seaming endless deployments that are accomplishing very little because civilian leadership is failing them and does not have the political will do do what actually needs to be done ([I]boots on the ground[/I]).[/QUOTE]Way to disparage the accomplishments of the troops, thanks to these men and women Iran is bleeding money.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080641]Shouldn't you ask yourself why Kamala wasn't able to get more votes from Caucasians, Afro-Americans and Latinos in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania?
Why couldn't Kamala win Georgia, Nevada and Arizona like Biden did in 2020 after the liberal's Covid lockdowns to create chaos in America?
President Trump won Wisconsin by winning the Caucasian vote and did better than expected among Latinos and Afro-American males. The group you're talking about didn't even matter.
Six states turned away from the Democrats, no states turned blue.
President Trump was even close to winning a bunch of blue states.
USA is a lot bigger than three states and states are not automatically a certain color.[/QUOTE]Have you ever asked yourself why Trump has never been on a presidential ticket that won the majority of the votes in three times at bat?
Why could he never do that?
Kamala Harris was on such a ticket in only two times at bat. She was on a ticket that not only won the majority of the votes but got 7 million more votes than Trump's ticket got.
You should ask yourself why Trump couldn't do that in three tries.
All totalled, with 3 million fewer votes than his female opponent the first time around, 7 million fewer votes against a woman on the ticket the second time around and only squeaking out about 2. 3 million more votes than the woman on the ticket the 3rd time around when many millions more voters turned out than in 2016, not only can Trump not win an election against a man at the top of the ticket but he is still about 7. 7 million votes behind his Demicratic Party opponents.
Have you ever asked yourself why that happened?
Have you ever asked yourself, if his MAGAs are so passionately in support of him and his Party after doing such a great job as president, why did his Party suffer so many losses and saw their Senate and House Majorities flip to the Dems in 2018 even before his disastrous 2019 decisions ushered in Trump's Pandemic?
And why since January 2017 his Party lost a disproportiately high number of Special Elections to the Dems?
And why those supposedly rabidly supportive MAGAs let him and his Party down again in 2020?
And why he could only squeak out a razor-thin win in 2024 against a mixed ethnicity female married to a Jewish man, a V. P. Of a sitting president, which has been a difficult lift for a first time presidential run for 100 years, who only had about 100 days to campaign while he had been campaigning for that 2nd term as an "incumbent" president since 12:01 pm on January 20,2017?
And why his Party lost House seats to Dems in 2024 and only gained a couple of Senate seats in Ruby Red states that probably shouldn't have had a Dem Senator anyway not to mention one of them was retiring?
Where is all this supposed support from Trump's MAGAs that apparently barely came through for him in 2016, didn't come through for him after that squeaker, didn't come through for him in 2018, didn't come through for him in 2020, barely came through for him in another squeaker in 2024 as long as we count a tiny handful of angry Muslims spread across the only three swing states that mattered to be "MAGAs", lost seats in the House for his Party even then, contributed virtually nothing to his Party in the Senate because only a couple of already Ruby Red states elected a Repub and now are showing huge, truly historic drops in support in the polls not only by the MAGAs who never really came through for him in significantly more percentages than any other Repub president and candidate but also truly historic drops in support from the typically Dem-voter demographics that only showed an interesting uptick for a moment or two in 2024 but did not come through enough for him to flip any typically Blue state to his side or award him a single "winning" Electoral College vote without that tiny handful of angry Muslims getting there first and doing all the work?
Have you ever asked yourself why that happened?
I mean, since you think Trump was such a great president, candidate and all that.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080706]This is a war of choice, chosen by the Iranian regime.
Trump gave them the option of a lucrative peace, but the Iranian regime turned it down.
Obama's deal was the worst deal I have ever seen and all the allies of USA became furious and couldn't understand how Obama could reward the Iran regime with a dream deal. Iran was allowed to build up their proxies and missile program and plotting on how and when to finalize their nuclear weapons. Not to mention the Iranian space program created to be able to strike US cities.
You can say what you want over what's happening, but this is caused by Obama and previous presidents which gave the Iranians time and money to build more weapons and proxies in the region.
Obama truly didn't understand the long term consequences of his gifts to the Iranian regime.
The driving force, the raison d'etre for the Iranian regime isn't money, it's their jihadi ideology..[/QUOTE]You aren't making any sense. When Obama was president the Strait of Hormuz was open 24/7. Now, the new normal is that Iran can close it whenever they feel like. This never happened before. Even more nonsensical is to send someone like Jared Kushner to "negotiate. " What kind of expertise does he have? Where does Marco Rubio the Secretary of State fit in in all of this?
This is war of choice fought behalf of Bibi Netanyahu. That feeble minded Trump fell for this scheme when Obama and Biden refused to fall for that ruse. You want worry about nukes that can be delivered to America? How come you Trump do anything about Kim Jong Un of North Korea? He goes over there and kisses his ass.
The "Iranian Regime" was never a threat to America. Now, we are stuck in conflict of Trump's making. The most reckless president we've ever had. He talks tough but had to hide in food cart with roast beef and tuna fish sandwiches!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080762]Way to disparage the accomplishments of the troops, thanks to these men and women Iran is bleeding money.[/QUOTE]Is English your first language? I am disparaging the Civilian Leadership. I was born with that right. Read The Constitution of the United States of America. Pay close attention to the amendment. Namely the first.
[B]Troop[/B]: A group of soldiers. Military units; soldiers.
I am not aware of any soldiers participating in on the ground fighting in Iran. Plenty of Airman and Seamen have lost their lives because their civilian leadership is incompetent.
Money means nothing. The Dis United States of America owes 40 Trillion USD of it. They don't care how much debt they have. The print it on paper. That means they just create it out of thin air. Debasing the currency me and my fellow citizens need to spend in order to feed, house and cloth ourselves.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3080776]Have you ever asked yourself why Trump has never been on a presidential ticket that won the majority of the votes in three times at bat?
Why could he never do that?
Kamala Harris was on such a ticket in only two times at bat. She was on a ticket that not only won the majority of the votes but got 7 million more votes than Trump's ticket got.
You should ask yourself why Trump couldn't do that in three tries.
All totalled, with 3 million fewer votes than his female opponent the first time around, 7 million fewer votes against a woman on the ticket the second time around and only squeaking out about 2. 3 million more votes than the woman on the ticket the 3rd time around when many millions more voters turned out than in 2016, not only can Trump not win an election against a man at the top of the ticket but he is still about 7. 7 million votes behind his Demicratic Party opponents..[/QUOTE]Sorry, your theories are wrong. There aren't enough Muslims in America and the certain swing state for your theories to be true even in theory.
People love Trump, that's why he keeps winning even when republicans on a lower level fails to win.
They are Trump supporters. Not republicans.
Canada is right to put back tax in Trump face, a loser versus Iran and for economics. Americans pay for his mistakes and craziness.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3080788]You aren't making any sense. When Obama was president the Strait of Hormuz was open 24/7. Now, the new normal is that Iran can close it whenever they feel like. This never happened before. Even more nonsensical is to send someone like Jared Kushner to "negotiate. " What kind of expertise does he have? Where does Marco Rubio the Secretary of State fit in in all of this?
This is war of choice fought behalf of Bibi Netanyahu. That feeble minded Trump fell for this scheme when Obama and Biden refused to fall for that ruse. You want worry about nukes that can be delivered to America? How come you Trump do anything about Kim Jong Un of North Korea? He goes over there and kisses his ass.
The "Iranian Regime" was never a threat to America. Now, we are stuck in conflict of Trump's making. The most reckless president we've ever had. He talks tough but had to hide in food cart with roast beef and tuna fish sandwiches![/QUOTE]Well, Obama also paid billions of dollars to Iran and released hezbollah drugdealers while Iranian proxies took over Middle Eastern countries.
Obama was in practice a servant of the Iranian regime.
Everyone else in the world knows extremely well that Iran was and still is a threat against US interests and US citizens.
Or are you unaware of the Americans being imprisoned by the Iranian regime? The attacks against US soldiers? The cyber attacks against USA?
It's not a smart policy to wait to do anything until it rains Iranian missiles over US cities. I think that's what you would call too little, too late.
Or what do you think the point of the Iranian regimes nuclear program and space program is? Don't be so naive, did you even know that the Iranian regimes had a space program?
You're obsessing over Jews meanwhile turkey and Qatar are openly bribing US and EU officials, the democratic mayor Eric Adams in NYC, that's also most likely the reason why the Iranian regime wasn't finished.
I have pointed it out before that President Trump has personal financial interests in turkey, but you're too busy obsessing over Jews and unable to understand the geopolitical realities and think two steps ahead.
It seems to me that you're a headliner reader seeing anything through a lense of hate against President Trump and Jewish people.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3080790]Is English your first language? I am disparaging the Civilian Leadership. I was born with that right. Read The Constitution of the United States of America. Pay close attention to the amendment. Namely the first.
[B]Troop[/B]: A group of soldiers. Military units; soldiers.
I am not aware of any soldiers participating in on the ground fighting in Iran. Plenty of Airman and Seamen have lost their lives because their civilian leadership is incompetent.
Money means nothing. The Dis United States of America owes 40 Trillion USD of it. They don't care how much debt they have. The print it on paper. That means they just create it out of thin air. Debasing the currency me and my fellow citizens need to spend in order to feed, house and cloth ourselves.[/QUOTE]So you're unaware that there are American soldiers involved in this? That's hilarious.
After LA suburb, now Reno nearly burning. Keep on stupid Trump, keep on burning USA with your pollution, and soon hurricanes and tornados. USA make 20% pollution for less than 5% population. China make 30% for between 15/20% population. They kill our planet since too long, our planet will kill many of us, when we are now too numerous and making too much pollution.
The truth is no one knows how the war will turn out. There are no embedded reporters covering the story from either side. If one hates Trump there is a strong tendency to think the war is unwinnable. If one supports Trump there is the conviction that the Mullahs will cave. No one know how things will turn out!
Given the above I think one should be aware of the possible outcomes. So mainly for the lefties I post the following link with the headline: "Iran faces massive new triple-threat as Hormuz begins to open, cash gets tight and pols call to end the war". This could be good news, right? Or do you hate Trump so much that you are rooting for an IRCG victory? We live in amazing times.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/23/world-news/iran-faces-triple-threat-as-control-over-hormuz-economy-wavers/[/URL]
If you look at the official casualty lists, the majority of KIAs were in the Navy and Air Force. The Army deaths occur well outside the theater of operations and were not due to direct combat operations. Even though that is the case it is still sad. What is worse is you do not believe in what they were fighting for. The Untied States Constitution. In it have the right to be critical of civilian leadership. Review the First Amendment.
You seem to be unaware of the rights me and my fellow citizens have been given in the founding documents of the country you are a citizen in. That is sad!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080975]So you're unaware that there are American soldiers involved in this? That's hilarious.[/QUOTE]
The conflict in Iran, no matter how you define it will not be won without [I]boots on the ground[/I]. Never in the history of mankind has a conflict been won with ground solders unless the enemy gives up under siege.
Are you saying the Dis United States of America has the power to cut all vital supplies to Iran until they surrender unconditionally?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081017]The truth is no one knows how the war will turn out. There are no embedded reporters covering the story from either side. If one hates Trump there is a strong tendency to think the war is unwinnable. If one supports Trump there is the conviction that the Mullahs will cave. No one know how things will turn out!
Given the above I think one should be aware of the possible outcomes. So mainly for the lefties I post the following link with the headline: "Iran faces massive new triple-threat as Hormuz begins to open, cash gets tight and pols call to end the war". This could be good news, right? Or do you hate Trump so much that you are rooting for an IRCG victory? We live in amazing times.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/23/world-news/iran-faces-triple-threat-as-control-over-hormuz-economy-wavers/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081017]The truth is no one knows how the war will turn out. There are no embedded reporters covering the story from either side. If one hates Trump there is a strong tendency to think the war is unwinnable. If one supports Trump there is the conviction that the Mullahs will cave. No one know how things will turn out!
Given the above I think one should be aware of the possible outcomes. So mainly for the lefties I post the following link with the headline: "Iran faces massive new triple-threat as Hormuz begins to open, cash gets tight and pols call to end the war". This could be good news, right? Or do you hate Trump so much that you are rooting for an IRCG victory? We live in amazing times.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/23/world-news/iran-faces-triple-threat-as-control-over-hormuz-economy-wavers/[/URL][/QUOTE]I am tired of hearing Trump nut huggers complain about people "hating" him. It comes off as school ground stuff. Has any President other Trump whined that people did like them? Of course not. If you are that sensitive then GTFU!
No informed person with any shred of sense think that this "war" is winnable. You cannot topple a nation of that size with an air attack and missiles. It's widely known that Hegseth wasted most the missile inventory that will take years to replace. What a dumbass.
I really don't appreciate the term "lefties. " What does that mean? Did Trump or anyone in his family fight in any war? His old man found an out for him with Vietnam War. Yes, we live in amazing times a corrupt, mentally ill, convict and inept person is running our country into the ground. You can't name one sane person who believes that we "winning" this war.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3080849]Sorry, your theories are wrong. There aren't enough Muslims in America and[b] the certain swing state[/b] for your theories to be true even in theory.
People love Trump, that's why he keeps winning even when republicans on a lower level fails to win.
They are Trump supporters. Not republicans.[/QUOTE]Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are right there among the battleground states that have enough Muslim voters to swing a presidential election, as they did in 2024. In other swing states, too. But the Muslim Community voters abandoning Harris in those other swing states did not squeak out the winning Electoral College votes Trump needed. The ones in MI, PA and WI did and if they hadn't abandoned Harris in just enough numbers in those three states, Trump would not have won. Harris would have won:
[URL]https://youtu.be/0KgX6I3GBCA?is=GrP-LFLdXYY0VQlR[/URL]
[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/8/25/the-muslim-american-vote-matters-and-it-can-no-longer-be-taken-for[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/swing-state-muslim-voters-threaten-vote-against-biden-rcna122870[/URL]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3081042]I am tired of hearing Trump nut huggers complain about people "hating" him. It comes off as school ground stuff. Has any President other Trump whined that people did like them? Of course not. If you are that sensitive then GTFU!
No informed person with any shred of sense think that this "war" is winnable. You cannot topple a nation of that size with an air attack and missiles. It's widely known that Hegseth wasted most the missile inventory that will take years to replace. What a dumbass.
I really don't appreciate the term "lefties. " What does that mean? Did Trump or anyone in his family fight in any war? His old man found an out for him with Vietnam War. Yes, we live in amazing times a corrupt, mentally ill, convict and inept person is running our country into the ground. You can't name one sane person who believes that we "winning" this war.[/QUOTE]Look at what you're writing, you're consumed by hatred. You can't even write a sentence without using derogatory language. You're unable to see things objectively or even consider other people's POV, you're not able to even refrain from using derogatory language which makes you seem unhinged and childish.
No one, absolutely no one would say that USA was winning this war if the roles were reversed. It's pretty obvious that the people that used to govern Iran lost, they lost their lives. The Iranian economy sure as hell isn't winning. Why do you believe the Iranian president wants to move past this situation and make a deal? Most probably because Iran is losing, and they keep on losing every day that this situation goes on.
You're showing clear signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome, try to grow up and realize that not everything is so extremely black and white.
You're attacking people for being centrists, if someone doesn't hate Trump you call them "Trump nut huggers". How is that reasonable?
It's hilarious to see you talk about "school ground stuff" when you're using slurs and black and white language as if you're a kid on the school ground.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3081045]Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are right there among the battleground states that have enough Muslim voters to swing a presidential election, as they did in 2024. In other swing states, too. But the Muslim Community voters abandoning Harris in those other swing states did not squeak out the winning Electoral College votes Trump needed. The ones in MI, PA and WI did and if they hadn't abandoned Harris in just enough numbers in those three states, Trump would not have won. Harris would have won:
[URL]https://youtu.be/0KgX6I3GBCA?is=GrP-LFLdXYY0VQlR[/URL]
[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/8/25/the-muslim-american-vote-matters-and-it-can-no-longer-be-taken-for[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/swing-state-muslim-voters-threaten-vote-against-biden-rcna122870[/URL][/QUOTE]That's incorrect and you have failed to produce any facts or stats that shows different.
A simple fact; you don't know how certain religious groups voted.
Anyways, you're trying to make the point that Muslims are deciding who the President of America will be and that the Democrats are dependent on Muslims to win any presidential election.
According to you the Democrats is a Muslim party.
That is hilarious. You should write a book.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3081102]That's incorrect and you have failed to produce any facts or stats that shows different.
A simple fact; you don't know how certain religious groups voted.
Anyways, you're trying to make the point that Muslims are deciding who the President of America will be and that the Democrats are dependent on Muslims to win any presidential election.
According to you the Democrats is a Muslim party.
That is hilarious. You should write a book.[/QUOTE]The critical issue among the Muslim Community in the 2024 election was Gaza. The outsized (compared to less determinative states and swing states) Muslim Community voters in MI, PA and WI were campaign targeted on that issue. I already cited the easy math on that; if just half of the Muslims residing in those states voted and only about half of them didn't vote for Harris or voted for someone else in accordance with the urging of the most highly mobilized Muslim Community leaders, that was enough votes to squeak out the less than 0. 72 percentage point swing in those states that gave Trump the election win. And without that swing in those states, he would not have won.
But that doesn't mean non Muslims in those states were immune to or ignored the targeted campaign pitch. It is reasonable to assume that issue was determinative for many non Muslims as well, at the very least friends and neighbors of Muslims for whom that was a critical issue. Many of them might well have stayed home or abandoned their usual Dem vote as well.
But that is immaterial to the point that there is no evidence for the claim that Trump squeaked out the critical Electoral College votes that put him back in the White House because of the economy that was roaring along far better than it did under Trump or any other Republican president or because the rate of inflation and the price of gas had been steadily and dramatically declining for more than two years or because crime rates had declined to decades long lows under Biden after hitting decades long record highs under Trump or because America was embroiled in exactly zero wars anywhere on the planet or because the deficit was already being reduced by hundreds of billions of dollars, all true conditions in 2024, when the one issue that squeaked out the EC votes for Trump in the only 3 swing states that put him over that knife's edge to a win and without which he would not have won was Gaza, which just happened to be the most critical issue for the Muslim Community.
Either you can connect those couple of gigantic dots or you can't. Apparently, you can't.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3081114]The critical issue among the Muslim Community in the 2024 election was Gaza. The outsized (compared to less determinative states and swing states) Muslim Community voters in MI, PA and WI were campaign targeted on that issue. I already cited the easy math on that; if just half of the Muslims residing in those states voted and only about half of them didn't vote for Harris or voted for someone else in accordance with the urging of the most highly mobilized Muslim Community leaders, that was enough votes to squeak out the less than 0. 72 percentage point swing in those states that gave Trump the election win. And without that swing in those states, he would not have won.
But that doesn't mean non Muslims in those states were immune to or ignored the targeted campaign pitch. It is reasonable to assume that issue was determinative for many non Muslims as well, at the very least friends and neighbors of Muslims for whom that was a critical issue. Many of them might well have stayed home or abandoned their usual Dem vote as well..[/QUOTE]It's embarrassing to see you repeat the same old lies time after time.
Muslim community leaders strongly supported Kamala, just like Israel supported President Trump. Another thing, stop blaming Muslims when Latinos and Afro-Americans stopped voting for the Democrats and largest source of votes for Trump was the Caucasian vote. It's pretty funny that you believe that the same states that President Trump won by proposing a Muslim ban in 2016 would have voted for him in 2024. Or do you think the Muslim voters looked at Israel and thought that they wanted to vote for the candidate favored by Israel?
I dislike your suggestion that Muslims are sheep that simply votes as a Islamic lobbyists tells them to do. They can think for themselves and make their own decisions.
Kamala lost votes among Americans that supports Israel because she appeared to be anti-Israel and she most certainly lost votes among devoted Muslims because of the Democrats position regarding HBTQ and more specifically trans issues.
Be honest now, how would the election have ended if we exclude Muslim voters? Who would have won the election?
According to AI we would have seen President Trump win even bigger if we exclude Muslim voters.
You have failed to present the scenario where Trump would have lost Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. As I've said before, there are barely any Muslims in Wisconsin. Your math isn't mathing, you haven't even presented the numbers behind a Kamala win in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
But hey, there's nothing new that left-wing parties are dependent on importing voters from deeply Islamism countries without human rights and deeply rooted Anti-American and Anti-Semitic sentiment. We have already seen how that turned out in Europa.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3081101]Look at what you're writing, you're consumed by hatred. You can't even write a sentence without using derogatory language. You're unable to see things objectively or even consider other people's POV, you're not able to even refrain from using derogatory language which makes you seem unhinged and childish.
No one, absolutely no one would say that USA was winning this war if the roles were reversed. It's pretty obvious that the people that used to govern Iran lost, they lost their lives. The Iranian economy sure as hell isn't winning. Why do you believe the Iranian president wants to move past this situation and make a deal? Most probably because Iran is losing, and they keep on losing every day that this situation goes on.
You're showing clear signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome, try to grow up and realize that not everything is so extremely black and white.
You're attacking people for being centrists, if someone doesn't hate Trump you call them "Trump nut huggers". How is that reasonable?.[/QUOTE]I hate to sound like a little kid but Trump started all of this nonsense. Did Barack Obama cry when Trump and his racist followers were saying that he wasn't born American? Did you ever hear of Obama derangement syndrome? Of course not, Trump nut huggers called Obama names for years.
Donald Trump is the last person to complain about a lack of civility. Now, he has issues with Canada? He's not wrapped to tight.
Let's watch and see how the trade war goes with Canada. The Article 2 leader and his Treasury Lap Dog are out of their league dealing with the Canadian Prime Minister. Only me and my fellow citizens who are poor like me will suffer. Natural Gas prices are already up. Canada can cut electricity to the Dis United States of America. Canada exports 4 million barrels a day of crude oil to the Dis United States of America. Watch what happens to gasoline prices in the Dis United States of America if they decide to cut it off.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3081178]It's embarrassing to see you repeat the same old lies time after time.
Muslim community leaders strongly supported Kamala, just like Israel supported President Trump. Another thing, stop blaming Muslims when Latinos and Afro-Americans stopped voting for the Democrats and largest source of votes for Trump was the Caucasian vote. It's pretty funny that you believe that the same states that President Trump won by proposing a Muslim ban in 2016 would have voted for him in 2024. Or do you think the Muslim voters looked at Israel and thought that they wanted to vote for the candidate favored by Israel?
I dislike your suggestion that Muslims are sheep that simply votes as a Islamic lobbyists tells them to do. They can think for themselves and make their own decisions.
Kamala lost votes among Americans that supports Israel because she appeared to be anti-Israel and she most certainly lost votes among devoted Muslims because of the Democrats position regarding HBTQ and more specifically trans issues.
Be honest now, how would the election have ended if we exclude Muslim voters? Who would have won the election?.[/QUOTE][B]The 2024 Election[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]
The A. I. Overviews:
[QUOTE][B]Michigan[/b]
The number of registered muslims in michigan +4 There is no official registry of religious affiliation in the United States, but demographers and advocacy groups estimate Michigan's Muslim population is approximately 240,000 to 242,000 people (about 2.4% of the state's total population). Additionally, organizations like Emgage estimate there are over 200,000 Muslim American voters in the state.Population Estimates and ContextTotal Population: Estimates place the total Muslim count around 241,828 according to data tracked by the World Population Review.
[B]Voter Numbers: Advocacy groups report more than 200,000 self-identified Muslim voters registered in Michigan.[/b]
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Michigan has the largest population of Arabs, Muslims, and Palestinians in the United States, with more than 200,000 people. In the 2024 Democratic primary, mor...World Population ReviewMuslim Population by State 2026 - World Population ReviewAug 20, 2569 BE Muslim Population by Key Takeaways * Michigan has the largest Muslim population share of any U.S. state. * The Muslim population is estimated at approximately 235,000250,000....[/QUOTE]In Michigan, Harris got 80,103 fewer votes than Trump. Meaning if only 40,052 of the estimated 200,000 Muslim voters in Michigan had not abandoned Harris due to their clearly stated animosity for the Biden Administration, Harris would have won Michigan's Electoral College Votes.
[QUOTE][b]Pennsylvania[/b]
Pennsylvania is estimated to have between 170,000 and 400,000 registered Muslim voters, depending on the tracking organization and methodology used.
City & State Pennsylvania
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The conservative estimate: A comprehensive demographic report tracked approximately 170,000 registered Muslim voters in the state, noting that roughly 80% reside in the eastern region (primarily across Philadelphia, Chester, Bucks, Lehigh, and Montgomery counties).
The high estimate: Political advocacy and mobilization networks estimate the number of registered Muslim voters could be as high as 400,000.
NEWSMAX
Historical Electoral Impact
[B]Regardless of the exact baseline registration numbers, the active turnout of Muslim voters in Pennsylvania has consistently played a decisive role in tight elections.[/b] During the 2020 presidential election, more than 125,000 Muslim voters cast ballots in Pennsylvaniaa total that exceeded the state's narrow 81,000-vote margin of victory.[/QUOTE]In Pennsylvania, Harris got 120,266 fewer votes than Trump. Meaning if only 60,134 of the (lowest) estimated 170,000 Muslim voters in Pennsylvania had not abandoned Harris due to their clearly stated animosity for the Biden Administration, Harris would have won Pennsylvania's Electoral College Votes.
Drum roll, please.
[QUOTE][b]Wisconsin[/b]
Muslim voters make up roughly 1.0% to 1.2% of the total electorate in Wisconsin, representing an estimated base of around 35,000 registered voters out of a broader state Muslim population of nearly 70,000 residents.
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Registered Voters: Groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) Action estimate about 35,000 registered Muslim voters in the state.Electorate Share: Roughly 1.0% to 1.2% of total eligible voters.Community EngagementHigh Turnout: Regional organizations like the Wisconsin Muslim Civic Alliance note that local Muslim populations display high registration rates and active community mobilization during election cycles.
[B]Swing State Impact: Because overall statewide margins in Wisconsin are historically razor-thin, the focused block of Muslim voters carries significant weight in close elections.[/b][/QUOTE]In Wisconsin, Harris got 29,397 fewer votes than Trump. Meaning if only 14,699 of the estimated 35,000 Muslim voters in Wisconsin had not abandoned Harris due to their clearly stated animosity for the Biden Administration, Harris would have won Wisconsin's Electoral College Votes and the 2024 presidential election to go along with the House seats the Dems took from Repubs and no Blue state Senate seat losses at all.
Now, let's see your links and math for how big moves by Latinos and Black people voters in those only three swing states that mattered were even needed to hand those decisive Electoral College Votes to Trump as long as those fractions of campaign targeted Muslims on that one critical issue for them got there first. No Latinos or Black voters abandoning Harris or any other Dems in any typically Blue states, in the House of Representatives or the Senate in significant enough numbers on any favorite Mainstream Media "campaign issue" flipped a Blue state to Trump or gave him one "winning" EC Vote, won a single additional House seat for Repubs rather than losing them or won a Blue state Senate seat for a Repub.
Hurry! Don't embarrass yourself by totally failing to post a shred of substantiation for anything you have asserted much longer than you have already.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3081210]I hate to sound like a little kid but Trump started all of this nonsense. Did Barack Obama cry when Trump and his racist followers were saying that he wasn't born American? Did you ever hear of Obama derangement syndrome? Of course not, Trump nut huggers called Obama names for years.
Donald Trump is the last person to complain about a lack of civility. Now, he has issues with Canada? He's not wrapped to tight.[/QUOTE]Senile, schizophrene, megaloman, dangerous Trump gives the worst ever image of USA and he wants to compare to JF Kennedy who gave the best image, even he was far to be perfect. And stupid Trump put messe in our world.
The blockade is working. Hard times are here for the Persian people and there are divisions forming within the Iranian leadership between the civilians and the IRCG. Will it be enough to create a "palace coup" within the IRCG remains to be seen.
[URL]https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6404082665112[/URL]
[QUOTE]Hard times are here for the Persian people and there are divisions forming within the Iranian leadership between the civilians and the IRCG.[/QUOTE]Will the US Support (boots on the ground) or initiate (CIA) armed revolution in Iran?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081411]The blockade is working. Hard times are here for the Persian people and there are divisions forming within the Iranian leadership between the civilians and the IRCG. Will it be enough to create a "palace coup" within the IRCG remains to be seen.
[URL]https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6404082665112[/URL][/QUOTE]The Iranians have been under sanctions for years. This will not work as they can wait Trump out for 2 more years. Now, that Trump has weakened our nation and military, China can and will step in get the Iranians through this war-of-choice not necessity.
You know things are bad when can't properly care for Marines and Navy on battleship. Not a good look to moldy cold showers and gray meat. It's complete incompetence.
"NATO begins bombing Serbia, March 24,1999!
Led by the United States, warplanes from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization on this day in 1999 began a bombing campaign against Serbian military targets in the former Yugoslavia. The air raids, President Bill Clinton said, were aimed at halting widespread evidence of urban cleansing the worst such outbreak in Europe since World War II being perpetrated by Serbian forces against ethnic Albanian Muslims in Kosovo. They ended after 10 weeks when the Serbians agreed to a peace accord that called for the withdrawal of Serbian forces from Kosovo and their replacement by NATO peacekeeping troops.
The NATO bombing campaign marked the second major combat operation in the alliance's history, after the one it launched in 1995 in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The attacks also marked first time that NATO had used military force without the prior approval of the United Nations Security Council. (China and Russia let it be known that they would exercise their veto powers in the council, blocking its potential sanctioning of the operation.).
The campaign involved some 1,000 aircraft operating from air bases in Italy and Germany, as well as the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an aircraft carrier stationed in the Adriatic Sea. NATO aircraft flew more than 38,000 combat missions during the conflict. In addition, cruise missiles were fired from American ships and submarines.
Operation Allied Force predominantly used a large-scale air campaign to destroy Yugoslav military infrastructure from high altitudes. After the third day of aerial bombing, NATO had destroyed almost all of its strategic military targets in Yugoslavia. Despite this, the Yugoslav army continued to function and to attack Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) insurgents inside Kosovo, mostly in the regions of Northern and Southwest Kosovo. NATO bombed strategic economic and societal targets, such as bridges, military facilities, official government facilities, and factories, using long-range cruise missiles to hit heavily defended targets, such as strategic installations in Belgrade and Pristina. The NATO air forces also targeted infrastructure, such as power plants (using the BLU-114/ be "Soft-Bomb" water-processing plants and the state-owned broadcaster. The Dutch foreign minister Jozias van Aartsen said that the strikes on Yugoslavia should be such as to weaken their military capabilities and prevent further humanitarian atrocities. [.
Save for two USA Pilots who were killed in a training mission in Albania, no NATO personnel lost their lives during the 78-day assault. There were, however, some miscalculated bombings that led to the deaths of Kosovar Albanian refugees and Serbian civilians. On May 7, five USA Precision bombs programmed with coordinates provided by the CIA struck the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, the Serbian capital, killing three Chinese journalists and triggering a diplomatic row between Beijing and Washington.
On June 12, NATO forces moved into Kosovo from Macedonia. On the same day, Russian troops arrived in Pristina, Kosovo's capital, resulting in a joint occupation. Despite the peacekeeping troops, the returning Kosovar Albanians retaliated against the Serbian minority, forcing many of them to flee to Serbia.
In October 2000, Slobodan Milosević, the Serbian leader, was ousted from power by a popular revolution. He was replaced by Vojislav Kostunica, a moderate Serbian nationalist who promised to reintegrate Serbia into Europe. Milosević died in prison in the Netherlands on March 11,2006, during his trial for crimes against humanity and genocide. Because of his death, the court did not return a verdict. "
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3081033]The conflict in Iran, no matter how you define it will not be won without [I]boots on the ground[/I]. Never in the history of mankind has a conflict been won without ground solders unless the enemy gives up under siege.
Are you saying the Dis United States of America has the power to cut all vital supplies to Iran until they surrender unconditionally?[/QUOTE]Thank you for proving my point!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081470]On June 12, NATO forces moved into Kosovo from Macedonia. On the same day, Russian troops arrived in Pristina, Kosovo's capital, resulting in a joint occupation.[/QUOTE]Ground troops ultimately were needed to bring the conflict to a successful end.
I swear to God if Trump wants something done, he should just come out against it. New ballroom for the White House? I oppose it. Peace in the middle east? No way that would work. Climate change? Totally real. Oil pipelines? Totally opposed.
The latest from Doomberg is in:
For nearly two years, we have chronicled for our readers one of the unlikeliest political transformations of high consequence in the modern era: Canadian president Carney's metamorphic shift from stout climate-change warrior to the best friend the hydrocarbon industry has ever had. This particular drama looks set for its wildly unnatural final act. With all the pieces now in place, the trump cards will soon be revealed, and global energy flows are about to shift in ways few thought possible.
Flows of Canadian energy—especially discounted barrels of heavy crude from Western Canada—are a central pillar of US energy dominance. These flows have become all the more important since the war against Iran went kinetic. Take away Western Canadian Select oil from the US refining system, and Trump's ability to keep a lid on global fuel prices all but evaporates.
"Canada fuels American growth: supplying 99% of their natural gas imports, 85% of electricity imports, and 60% of crude oil imports. I don't think they want us to stop sending it. "
Buttressing Carney's optionality is a predictable burst in his popularity, and some polls put his approval rating north of 60%, rarefied air for the current slate of Western political leaders—Trump included. In essence, the prime minister could propose just about anything at the moment and his citizens would rally behind the cause:
Has there ever been a better time to unstick Alberta's energy? Won't pesky concerns like Indigenous rights, environmental-impact studies, and even climate change itself be brushed aside in the mad, patriotic rush to approve major midstream projects? Who could be opposed to new "liberty pipelines" moving black gold to both oceans? Can we interest anyone in a Sir John A. Macdonald Molecular Highway? What are you, pro-Trump or something?
End of link. Yes, there is no doubt that the best way for Trump to get the leftists to move on a matter is to come out against it.
2026, the year of the Canadian oil pipeline. Or is it liberty pipeline?
Friday, Aug. 21, may go down in history as Canada's Liberation Day. It was the day America came for Canada [I]...and Canada said NO! [/I].
[QUOTE] It was a decision made, seemingly, on the spur of the moment, but the deep history of this country paved the way for this one critical gesture[i] a historic no.[/i]
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While the decision to tough it out is ironically Canadian, Mr. Carneys gesture will resonate far beyond Canadas borders. A gray banker and not just any banker but one of the leading bankers in the world has stood up and said that theres more to life than a little bit of money. The power of that recognition alone, at this moment in history, cannot be overstated. [b]Mr. Trumps world, a world of transaction and submission, is not the only world we all have to live in. By Stephen Marche [/b][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/23/world/canada/canada-us-trade-war-trump-carney.html[/url] [/QUOTE][I]"But Mr. Carney did not simply reject a trade offer on Friday. He was openly defiant of the new breed of American aggression. We will not allow any nation to determine our future, he said.
The American president clearly did not know whom he was dealing with. [b]He is following in the grand tradition of American leaders starting wars with people they don't understand, then wondering what went wrong. [/b][/I]
Viva Canada's Liberation Day?
A BM recently conflated the utilization of peacekeeping troops as were consigned by President Clinton (the USA & NATO) and Russia after a peace agreement was signed by the combatants in the Serbia / Yugoslavia war and the possible use of combat troops in the present, ongoing Iran War. There is a big difference. The Yugoslavian civil war ended after Clinton bombed Serbian military installations and civilian infrastructure. Although Serbia posed no threat to the USA or NATO. President Clinton used overwhelming air power alone to end that war.
In the Iran War American superior airpower has decimated Iran's military, destroyed its Uranium enrichment facilities, and killed the top 2 echelons of the Iranian regime including the Ayatollah otherwise known as the Supreme Leader. The remaining IRCG leadership still refuses to surrender. The war is not over! But rather than use American combat troops to achieve victory, President Trump has instead successfully imposed a naval blockade surrounding Iran in the Persian gulf. [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/28/navy-blockade-iran-oil-exports-sanctions-trump.html?msockid=27e13debfb2e6a380d092a74fa7d6b20.[/URL] The Headline reads: "USA Navy blockade slashes Iran oil exports as Trump administration shifts to economic warfare". In addition, President Trump has imposed and Economic blockade named "Economic the-Day" to force the regime to capitulate. [URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/19/us-news/trump-announces-economic-d-day-against-iran-most-crushing-economic-operation-ever-taken/[/URL].
It is now obvious that the hard core will hold out until they are removed from power. The 2-fold strategy now in-place is designed to create a situation on the ground that induces a revolt within the power structure of the IRCG. It remains to be seen if this siege strategy will work. Many including myself think the strategy eventually will work. But the point is, until it does, nobody in the US administration is advocating the use of combat troops in Iran. But if / when the Iranian Regime does agree to peace terms, American personal will most definitely be sent into Iran, specifically to inspect and monitor all of Iran's nuclear facilities and collect the Uranium dust.
So that there is no further confusion on the difference between Combat troops and Peacekeeping troops I include the following core principles:
"Core Principles Differentiating Peacekeeping and Combat Engagements.
The core principles that differentiate peacekeeping from combat engagements primarily revolve around objectives, rules of engagement, and operational conditions. These distinctions influence decision-making and the application of force in each context.
In peacekeeping missions, principles emphasize neutrality, consent, and the protection of civilians without aggressive intent. The rules of engagement for peacekeeping roles restrict use of force to self-defense or defending mandate-mandated populations.
Conversely, combat roles are driven by offensive objectives that involve defeating enemy forces. The principles prioritize mission success, where decisions to use force can be immediate and more aggressive based on battlefield developments.
Key differences can be summarized as:
Peacekeeping focuses on stabilization and protection with restrictive rules of engagement.
Combat roles involve proactive engagement with more permissive rules to achieve military objectives.
Ethical considerations and legal frameworks guide peacekeepers to minimize harm, contrasting with combat roles' emphasis on decisive action.
These core principles fundamentally shape the manner and scope of engagement in peaceful versus combat military operations.
Rules of Engagement for Peacekeeping Operations.
In peacekeeping operations, rules of engagement (ROE) are guidelines that specify how military personnel can interact with civilians, local authorities, and combatants. These rules aim to maintain peace, ensure safety, and prevent escalation. They emphasize restraint and proportional responses to threats.
Key components of ROE for peacekeeping include the obligation to minimize harm and prioritize non-violent resolution. Personnel are typically authorized to use force only when necessary for self-defense or to protect civilians from imminent danger. Specific circumstances and legal frameworks often shape these rules.
Engage only when there's a direct threat to personnel or civilians.
Use non-lethal methods whenever possible.
Confirm the identity of individuals before taking action.
Report and document all use-of-force incidents for accountability.
These rules are designed to foster neutrality and protect the credibility of peacekeeping missions. They differ significantly from combat roles by underscoring restraint, respecting human rights, and avoiding unnecessary conflict escalation.
Rules of Engagement for Combat Roles.
Rules of engagement for combat roles are strict and clearly defined to ensure military effectiveness and adherence to international law. They specify when and how force can be used, emphasizing the protection of civilians and minimizing unnecessary harm.
In combat roles, these rules are generally more permissive to allow forceful response to threats and hostile actions. Troops are authorized to neutralize敌 threats, including using deadly force if necessary, within the scope of national and international regulations. The rules are designed to provide operational flexibility while maintaining ethical standards.
Decision-making in combat is often rapid, requiring troops to evaluate situations quickly under pressure. Clear protocols guide actions, but ambiguous or complex scenarios can challenge adherence to rules of engagement. Proper training ensures troops understand their authority and responsibilities in high-stakes environments.
Comparing Decision-Making Processes in Peacekeeping vs Combat Roles.
Decision-making processes in peacekeeping and combat roles differ significantly due to their distinct operational contexts. In peacekeeping, decisions often involve careful analysis of rules of engagement for peacekeeping vs combat roles, prioritizing restraint and conflict prevention. Commanders must weigh diplomatic considerations, the potential consequences of force, and the need to maintain neutrality, often operating with strict guidelines that emphasize peace preservation.
Conversely, combat roles require rapid, instinctive decision-making driven by immediate threat assessments. Commanders and troops rely on extensive training and situational awareness to determine the necessity of force. The focus is on achieving military objectives swiftly while adhering to the rules of engagement for combat roles, which permit a broader scope of action in hostile environments.
Overall, while peacekeeping decision-making emphasizes restraint and diplomatic judgment, combat decision-making hinges on swift, decisive actions based on real-time threat analysis. Both processes are vital to operational success but are shaped by the differing rules of engagement for peacekeeping vs combat roles.
Training and Preparedness for Applying Rules of Engagement.
Training and preparedness for applying rules of engagement differ significantly between peacekeeping and combat roles. Peacekeeping forces focus on cultural sensitivity, legal frameworks, and conflict de-escalation techniques, which are integral to their operational readiness.
In contrast, combat troops emphasize intense combat simulations, threat recognition, and quick decision-making under fire. Such training ensures they can respond decisively within the rules of engagement outlined for high-intensity conflicts.
Simulation exercises and scenario-based learning are vital for both roles. Peacekeepers often engage in mock negotiations and peacebuilding tasks, whereas combat units practice live-fire drills and rapid response scenarios. Both approaches enhance the ability to adapt rules of engagement to dynamic situations.
Cultural and legal awareness training is increasingly emphasized, particularly for peacekeeping personnel. Understanding international laws, rules of engagement, and the local context reduces risks of violations, ensuring operational legality and ethical conduct.
Differences in training focus for peacekeepers and combat troops.
Training focus for peacekeepers and combat troops markedly differs due to their distinct operational mandates. Peacekeeping training emphasizes conflict management, cultural sensitivity, and adherence to legal frameworks such as Rules of Engagement for peacekeeping roles. It prepares personnel to interact with diverse populations peacefully and avoid escalation. Conversely, combat troop training prioritizes offensive and defensive skills, survivability, and rapid decision-making under intense conditions. This training builds resilience and tactical proficiency aligned with combat scenarios.
While peacekeepers are trained to de-escalate tensions and protect civilians, combat troops focus on engaging adversaries effectively. The training modules for peacekeepers often include conflict resolution, human rights awareness, and understanding of international legal standards. For combat roles, instruction centers on weapon handling, combat tactics, and DOMINANT operational strategies. These differences reflect the need for peacekeepers to operate within complex socio-political environments, whereas combat troops train for direct engagement. Consequently, the emphasis on specific skills ensures each group is equipped to fulfill their roles responsibly and effectively.
Simulation exercises and scenario-based learning are integral components of training programs for both peacekeeping and combat roles. These methods provide realistic, controlled environments for personnel to apply their rules of engagement in situations mirroring actual operations. By replicating complex scenarios, soldiers learn to make swift, informed decisions while adhering to legal and ethical standards.
Such exercises foster critical thinking and help troops understand the nuances of different operational contexts. For peacekeepers, scenarios often emphasize conflict de-escalation, cultural sensitivity, and restraint within the rules of engagement. Conversely, combat training focuses on quick, decisive action under pressure. The scenario-based approach ensures that soldiers internalize appropriate responses to unpredictable circumstances, reducing the likelihood of violations or misjudgments.
Additionally, simulation exercises enhance coordination, communication, and adaptability among team members. Regular scenario-based learning ensures ongoing proficiency and awareness of evolving rules of engagement. Overall, these training methods are vital for preparing military personnel to execute their roles responsibly and effectively in diverse operational settings. ".
The current Article 2 leader of the Dis United States of America tells another lie.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/28/trump-announces-deal-with-venezuela-to-secure-more-than-65-billion-barrels-of-oil-reserves.html[/URL]
"Trump said the Venezuela deal should bring down prices at the pump. " - he lies!
Venezuelan oil can be refined into gasoline, but it is significantly more expensive and complex to process than lighter crudes.
Total production and refining costs can reach $65 $80 per barrel (or higher, per some estimates), making it unprofitable at current global oil prices unless sold at a $12 $20 discount compared to benchmarks like Brent.
It does not naturally yield a high share of gasoline; significant processing is required to convert the heavy fractions into high-value products.
Facts are a wonderful thing when used correctly.
Peacekeepers suffered casualties over the subsequent years from snipers, landmines, civil riots, and accidents.
[QUOTE]Over the course of the ongoing 27-year NATO mission in Kosovo, more than 200 peacekeepers from various contributing nations have lost their lives. The vast majority of these total deaths resulted from vehicle crashes, accidental ordnance detonations, illness, or aircraft accidents (such as the 2006 Slovak Air Force crash which killed 42 returning personnel)[/QUOTE][U]Dead is Dead[/U]
A designation or AI summery posted by a online general who has never stood on a wall with a gun or faced an armed enemy (as I have) will not replace the loss nor ease the pain that the loved and liked ones of the individuals who lose their lives "peacekeeping" will suffer through.
Remember in the Dis United States of America we have [I]Peace Officers[/I]. A peace officer in the United States is a legal title for a person given the power by the government to enforce laws and keep public order. They die in the line of duty also.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3081559]Friday, Aug. 21, may go down in history as Canada's Liberation Day. It was the day America came for Canada [I]...and Canada said NO! [/I].
[I]"But Mr. Carney did not simply reject a trade offer on Friday. He was openly defiant of the new breed of American aggression. We will not allow any nation to determine our future, he said.
The American president clearly did not know whom he was dealing with. [b]He is following in the grand tradition of American leaders starting wars with people they don't understand, then wondering what went wrong. [/b][/I]
Viva Canada's Liberation Day?[/QUOTE]Thanks for making my point. When Canada imposes 250% tariffs on USA dairy product, you leftards still are against Trump and take Canada's side. Everything Trump does has to be bad for America.
As for Canada and energy, of course, Canada should have pipelines to the open market but you left and your climate change nuttery stopped that at every turn. Now you have done a 180 and somehow building pipelines is sticking it to Trump. In reality, those pipelines are going to take years and here is the dirty little secret. The tar sands of Canada and oil in Venezuela are very similar and while you Dems have been blasting Trump on Iran, you have not noticed what a success is going on in Venezuela.
Venezuela has doubled its paltry oil production. In addition, since Trump took over Venezuela's finances, money is being sent to the people of Venezuela and not finding its way into some dictator's foreign back account, and people on this very forum have commented on it.
$120 billion of Canada's $410 billion in exports were related to energy, but Venezuela has more proven reserves than anywhere in the world. If Venezuela gets its production going before those pipelines are built, the USA may be in the position to tell Canada thanks but no thanks with their oil, and Canada would be fucked.
I remember going to Canada during the W Bush years and wondering why the USA dollar bought $1. 50 Canadian. They had a balanced budget, provided national health care, weren't wasting money on dumb wars, and the overall quality of life in Canada seemed higher. It used to be a crime free haven and sure enough, what I thought should happen did happen, the Canadian dollar went to par with the American dollar.
Now I look at the costs at Canada and am stunned: sky high housing, a massive flodding of immigrants on welfare, crime rates in places that are worse than the USA, and I am like, forget $1.50 Canadian to $1 USA. It should be $2 Canadian to $1 USA. And if they lose their ability to export oil, that should go to $3 Canadian to $1 in the USA. Quality of life sucks in Canada now.
And then we have expats like you praising Canada just like you praise the beaten down. Crime ridden, and overpriced slums that are the American cities being run by Democratic mayors and then high tail it out of the country when the costs become prohibitive. Well, at least, you are consistent.
Of course, you are going to praise anyone anti-Trump but unlike what I saw twenty years ago with Canada, today I see a nation in decline. The entire nation is being run like the city of Baltimore.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3081745]And then we have expats like you praising Canada just like you praise the beaten down. Crime ridden, and overpriced slums that are the American cities being run by Democratic mayors and then high tail it out of the country when the costs become prohibitive. Well, at least, you are consistent.
Of course, you are going to praise anyone anti-Trump but unlike what I saw twenty years ago with Canada, today I see a nation in decline. The entire nation is being run like the city of Baltimore.[/QUOTE][I]The Ten Poorest States: Mississippi, Louisiana, West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Kentucky, New Mexico
Political Control and Nuances: Republican Dominance: Seven to eight of these ten states have complete Republican control (governor and legislature), with Kentucky having a Democratic governor but a Republican supermajority in the legislature.[/I]
[URL]https://medium.com/@carmitage/republicans-run-8-of-americas-10-poorest-states-maybe-they-should-stop-713c1d270f00[/URL]
[QUOTE]The second phenomenon is a growing political divide between rich and poor places. This will shock many folks, but poor places are increasingly governed by Republicans and rich places by Democrats. The gap between rich and poor places might help explain the partisan differences in perceptions of the economy.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/06/24/republican-towns-are-missing-americas-booming-economy/74173361007/[/URL]
Republicans run things for their own pocket books and for the benefit of their crony capitalism friends.
[QUOTE][b]Trump's war on Iran is rapidly draining US navy budget, documents and interviews reveal.[/b]
Donald Trumps war on Iran has driven the US military into a severe financial crisis, with the US navy forced to transfer money from its payroll and other sources to cover the costs of combat, according to documents seen by the Guardian, and interviews with navy officials, contractors and defense analysts.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/27/trump-iran-war-navy-budget[/URL]
The most pertinent question about the effect of Donald Trump's economic policies and stewardship is, "By the end of his 2nd term and having spent 8 full years in office will those policies have produced even one single net gain private-sector job in America or will they have produced a net loss of almost 2 million private-sector jobs in America, despite his having added Trillions and Trillions of dollars to the deficit, more than any 2-3 other presidents combined?
That's a legitimate question based on every bit of available evidence and data.
It is well known and found to be the result of any ordinary research that Trump was finally driven out of office the first time around after losing that particular Trump War Against America and American Democracy on American Soil having produced a net loss of between 2. 7 Million and 3 Million private-sector or non farm payroll jobs for America.
And this is what is happening in his 2nd term as the result of his economic policies and stewardship:
[B]The A.I. Overview:[/B]
[QUOTE][b]Trump's average monthly private-sector jobs creation numbers in his 2nd term[/b]
During Donald Trumps second term, private-sector job growth averaged approximately 24,000 to 42,000 jobs per month depending on the baseline and recent U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics benchmark revisions, reflecting a volatile and decelerating labor market compared to prior years.
Job Growth Context and Revisions
Initial Estimates: Earlier reports placed private sector gains higher during the initial stretch of Trump's second term, totaling over 500,000 to 600,000 cumulative private jobs over the first year-plus.
BLS Adjustments:
[B]Recent BLS benchmark revisions adjusted private employment estimates downward reflecting a reduction of roughly 178,000 private-sector jobs in benchmarked periods, bringing the average monthly private job creation pace down closer to a seasonally adjusted 24,000 per month.[/b]
Administration Viewpoints: The White House has highlighted strong monthly reports emphasizing specialty construction, manufacturing shifts, and a shrinking federal workforce.
Independent Analyses:
Independent economists point out that growth has been unevenheavily reliant on service and healthcare sectors while goods-producing and retail sectors faced sluggishness or [b] downward revisions amid policy changes and tighter immigration enforcement.[/b][/QUOTE]Therefore, unless Trump abandons his wrong-headed and disastrously failed tariffs and trade wars with America's easiest to deal with allies and biggest trading partners around the world and then apologizes profusely to the immigrant population both legal and illegal for his treatment of them and begs them to remain and return to America ASAP along with welcoming millions more border-crossing immigrants starting this week, Trump's final private-sector jobs creation number, at the lower estimate of 2.7 Million lost in his first term and a now pathetic BLS-adjusted average of 24,000 per month created in his 2nd term, is on track to produce a net loss of almost 2 Million private-sector American jobs during his entire time as so-called president of the United States of America.
No other president in USA history and no president of any country on Earth has flushed Trillions and Trillions of dollars down the shitter with nothing to show for it in their country's economy than a net loss of almost 2 Million private-sector jobs. None. Trump's record of results will go down in history as the Worst Economic and Jobs Creation Results for anyone. Ever.
Will he do what is required as stated above to turn it all around ASAP and perhaps if America is lucky and all the stars are aligned perfectly that Trump will finally, blessedly and mercifully leave office after two full terms having created at least one net gain private-sector job for America? That would be nice.
Of course, even if he does launch into the fix for his disaster as cited above starting today and somehow miraculously squeezes out one net gain private-sector job by the blessed end of his presidency, well, that will still be the Worst Economic and Jobs Creation Result for anyone anywhere at anytime in history.
Unless Trump convinces Elon and the other billionaires who fund him and the RNC as well as any other Trillionaires that are created among those Billionaires through Trump's shared insider trading and so on to reimburse America's coffers for the Trillions and Trillions of dollars Trump flushed down the shitter, that is. Then at least that one net gain private-sector job created won't have cost American tax-payers and Working Men and Women those Trillions and Trillions of dollars.
But nobody should hold their breath waiting for any of those fixes to happen.
When failures for Ukraine and Ormuz / Iran, with inflation, but stupid Trump keep on cheating at golf and after ridiculous gulf of America, now lake of America and his dancing hall in White House, I wonder if he is at least a good dancer, when worst since a long while for our world.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081583]In the Iran War American superior airpower has decimated Iran's military, destroyed its Uranium enrichment facilities, and killed the top 2 echelons of the Iranian regime including the Ayatollah otherwise known as the Supreme Leader. The remaining IRCG leadership still refuses to surrender. The war is not over! But rather than use American combat troops to achieve victory, President Trump has instead successfully imposed a naval blockade surrounding Iran in the Persian gulf. [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/28/navy-blockade-iran-oil-exports-sanctions-trump.html?msockid=27e13debfb2e6a380d092a74fa7d6b20.[/URL] The Headline reads: "USA Navy blockade slashes Iran oil exports as Trump administration shifts to economic warfare". In addition, President Trump has imposed and Economic blockade named "Economic the-Day" to force the regime to capitulate. [URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/19/us-news/trump-announces-economic-d-day-against-iran-most-crushing-economic-operation-ever-taken/[/URL].
It is now obvious that the hard core will hold out until they are removed from power. The 2-fold strategy now in-place is designed to create a situation on the ground that induces a revolt within the power structure of the IRCG.[/QUOTE]AH, I do not think you get the power structure of Iran at all. The IRGC was designed as a set of body guards to the mullahs. They are loyal to the religious supreme leader. That was Ali Khamenei, but he was killed by the Trump raids. Supposedly, his son, Mojtaba Khamenei has been appointed supreme leader.
But few know where he is: An Iranian official told The Telegraph: "No one knows anything about Mojtaba, whether he is alive or dead or how badly injured. We are all just told that he's injured. He has no control over the war because he is not here. The majority of commanders, or more correctly, all commanders, have no news about him. "
So when you say the IRGC is refusing to step down, whom do you mean? The IRGC serves the clerics and Mojtaba is their supreme leader, and we do not know if he is on a ventilator or is keeping a profile low enough that he is calling the shots but is in hiding.
And there already was a rebellion among the clerics. Ayatollah is not some degree you obtain. It is an informal designation that clerics and the public give to you after you have shown enough religious or faith based wisdom. So when the religious council picked the Supreme leader, there were some who griped that Mojtaba was not even an Ayatollah.
So now you have the power players and let me put it in Western terms. You have the pope and the people around him. You have the cardinals who elect the pope. You have the pope's bodyguards, the IRGC. And then you have the Iranian military / army which is separate from all of this.
The issue I have with the Trumpian version of events is what type of government are you trying to overthrow. Do you even know? If the IRGC is in control, then you have a military dictatorship. If the Supreme leader is in control, then you have a theocracy. If the Supreme leader is brain dead or on a ventilator, then we could have a Joe Biden or Woodrow Wilson after a stroke type situation where they could be someone or ones in control that few know about saying Mojtaba wants X or why when Mojtaba might not even be able to speak. The one thing we know about the Biden administration is anyone who thinks Joe Biden was making all the important decisions was more brain dead than Biden himself.
But what is so pathetic is that Trump already took out the Iranian Supreme leader. I thought things were going to be so much better once he was gone, but they are not better. They are worse because you do not even really know who you are dealing with or who has power.
And you are saying the IRGC is in control. Well, that means Iran is now not being led by religious leaders and is a military dictatorship which is going to be a huge issue with the population, and I am not sure that is true.
Given the power players here, if you kick out whomever is in charge now, what is the ideal percentage each power group should have, and who is going to run the government and are they trustworthy? Is there anyone in the pro war camp who can even come up with a name? If we want Iran to be run by the good guys, who are they?
Contrast that to Venezuela where we had a specific succession plan in place and really understood how the government worked.
The idea that we take out leadership and hope things get better has already failed. And what kind of strategy is hope?
What I personally know that is different than most is who these clerics / mullahs really are. You know the Christian Televangelical preachers that so often preach against sin and are found to be among the biggest sinners? You know of those in the Catholic church who covered up how priests were molesting children? Yeah, the Iran religious leaders, the mullahs, IMO are even worse than that.
They are like the popes of a thousand or so years ago who stole nations blind and who were among the most sexually deviant and cruel people in Western history. The standard line among the Iranian people is that while the mullahs preach against drinking if you want the best liquors, go to one of their homes. And they have been slaughtering "sinners" in the thousands just like the Roman Catholic Church used to.
So when those who are in favor of the Trump plan think they are going to find a good mullah, I am very cynical. I think you were more likely to find a Nazi who was a decent person after WW 2 than a good Mullah in Iran right now.
[QUOTE] United States Army Secretary Daniel Driscoll has submitted his resignation following months of tension with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, according to media reports.
One US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that Hegseth saw Driscoll as a threat within the bureaucracy and had long wanted to remove him. But his ties to Vance, the official said, made it tough for Hegseth to do so.[/QUOTE]The current Secretary of War cannot handle those who are smarter and more competent than he is because the current Secretary of War knows he is incompetent and does not deserve to be in the position.
This is the main reason I believe the Dis United States of America cannot win the current conflict with Iran. Due to the incompetent civilian leadership.
The Oil market is the most neutral judge of what is going on over there.
Brent Crude 95.78 Up 1.15 +1. 22%.
WTI Crude 91.09 Up 0.97 +0.94%.
Will prices climb over 100+? I've got 5 on it!
[QUOTE]I got five on it (Got it good), grab your four and let's get keyed
'Cause I got five on it, messin' with that Indo weed
'Cause I got five on it (Got it good), it's got me stuck, and I'm tore back
'Cause I got five on it, partner, let's go half on a sack - [u]I Got 5 On it[/u], [b]Luniz[/b][/QUOTE]ROTFLMAO!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3082085]The current Secretary of War cannot handle those who are smarter and more competent than he is because the current Secretary of War knows he is incompetent and does not deserve to be in the position.
This is the main reason I believe the Dis United States of America cannot win the current conflict with Iran. Due to the incompetent civilian leadership.[/QUOTE]I think USA who have most powerful army, can't win, because they are once more too ignorant and led by a gang who is master for stupidity, when David resist to stupid Goliath USA are once more, because of their ignorance out of their borders. Trump is great example for stupidity.
Not only does it become more and more likely that Repub Donald Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his classic Repub economic policies and stewardship having failed to create one single net gain private-sector American job, but the even more depressing although hardly surprising fact is it is possible that all three most recent Repub presidents combined, through 20 horrific years of their classic Repub economic policies and stewardship, will not have created one single net gain private-sector American job.
And that's no joke. That is entirely possible.
[B]Jobs Created During Presidential Terms:[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms[/URL]
Anyway, back to today.
[B]Private payrolls rose by 38,000 in August, less than expected, ADP reports:[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/02/private-payrolls-rose-by-38000-in-august-fewer-than-expected-adp-reports.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Private companies added 38,000 jobs in August, down from 46,000 and below the estimate for 47,000, for the slowest month since January, according to ADP.
Three categories accounted for most of the job growth: education and health services, leisure and hospitality and construction. [B]Manufacturing saw a loss of 17,000 jobs.[/b]
The report comes ahead of the BLS nonfarm payrolls count, due out Friday.[/QUOTE]Oh well.
We tried.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3081745]Thanks for making my point. [/QUOTE]And what point would that be, about Canada?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3081745]Of course, you are going to praise anyone anti-Trump but unlike what I saw twenty years ago with Canada, today I see a nation in decline. The entire nation is being run like the city of Baltimore.[/QUOTE]LOL! As usually the MAGA faithless, can't see the trees through the forest and are blinded by dumb culture-wars MAGA ideology, too backwards, to see it's own [I]U.S. nation[/I] in decline under MAGA Fuhrer 2.0.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3081745]As for Canada and energy, of course, Canada should have pipelines to the open market but you left and your climate change nuttery stopped that at every turn.[/QUOTE]Slow your MAGA horses! Once again no doubt, your MAGA knuckleheaded ideology and understanding, of Canada's energy situation, is nothing, if not very rudimentary at best.
What you fail to realize (and is blatantly obvious) is that Canada, the EU, China, the Global South and all the worlds nations, are pivoting with regards their energy security and future reliance on fossil fuels and moving more towards, clean renewable energy, after seeing yet another fossil fuel crisis, ballistic high diesel, gas and fossil prices go through the roof, due to your [I]dumbass illegal MAGA Fuhrer/Bonkers Bibi's U.S./Israeli[/I] war on Iran.
But hey [I]...if Canada[/I] wants to build oil and gas pipelines to nowhere (beyond the current ones), they should have at it!
But let's be perfectly clear, many on the left in Canada, still believe it a "fool's errand" and once again will be a waste of taxpayer's money to enrich fossil fuel billionaires, and those future pipelines to supposedly supply Asia, are a relatively futurist dead end, as the Global South pivots to clean energy and electrification.
Not only will the future Asian market NOT be there in the abundance, for Canada to sell it's fossil fuels, but it's high cost of production per barrel of oil, will precariously leave put in very uncompetitive grounds with low production costs from [I]OPEC, UAE, the Saudis and the U.S[/I].
In the infamous nonsensical MAGA words, of Sec. Of Energy Chris Wright, [I][B]"...there is, no there's there"[/B] {...essentially saying this about climate change...}[/I].
[B]AND FOR GOOD MEASURE[/B] [I](...to make my point clear)[/I]:
Coincidentally, according to many sources like Bloomberg NEF, China's oil demand probably just peaked, in 2025. Even the biggest oil producer in China, Sinopec, recently came out and declared this. [I]Sinopec, China Oil Demand 'Very Likely' Peaked in 2025,[/I] Aug 24th, 2026. [URL]https://www.rigzone.com/news/wire/sinopec_says_china_oil_demand_very_likely_peaked_in_2025-24-aug-2026-184444-article/[/URL].
So please tell me, as the EU and the Global South (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa, Australia), follows China towards electrification, I wonder who these future Asian markets will be, that Canadian pipelines, are going to be selling their high-priced, fossil fuels to, ahead of the lowest cost producers like, OPEC or the UAE?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3082085]The current Secretary of War cannot handle those who are smarter and more competent than he is because the current Secretary of War knows he is incompetent and does not deserve to be in the position.
This is the main reason I believe the Dis United States of America cannot win the current conflict with Iran. Due to the incompetent civilian leadership.[/QUOTE]And MAGA has gall and the nerve to wage a dumbass culture-war about DEI. Talk about hypocrites!
[QUOTE=Spidy;3082224]And MAGA has gall and the nerve to wage a dumbass culture-war about DEI. Talk about hypocrites![/QUOTE]I could not have said it better myself.
[QUOTE]Earlier this year, the Defense secretary pulled four Army officers, two women and two Black men, from a one-star general promotion list to the displeasure of former Army Secretary Dan Driscoll and other top officials.
Driscoll handed his resignation to the White House on Monday and is set to depart the Trump administration after a months-long turf war with Hegseth, a move that further signals the Defense secretarys aim to impose his will on the service branch.[/QUOTE][URL]https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6065013-hegseth-again-removes-army-officer-promotions/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is blocking the promotions of four Army officers selected for promotion to one-star rank, a highly unusual move that appears to be targeting officers who worked for generals he does not like, current and former defense officials said.
So far this year Mr. Hegseth has removed at least 45 officers, selected by boards made up of peers, from promotion lists. [u]More than half of those officers have been female or Black[/u].[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/hegseth-pentagon-defense-department-personnel-iran-army-promotion-influencers[/URL]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3082282]I could not have said it better myself.
[URL]https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6065013-hegseth-again-removes-army-officer-promotions/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/hegseth-pentagon-defense-department-personnel-iran-army-promotion-influencers[/URL][/QUOTE]It's good that Hegseth got rid of the failed DEI project, can't have that sort of incompetence in a war.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082410]It's good that Hegseth got rid of the failed DEI project, can't have that sort of incompetence in a war.[/QUOTE]The problem is the Secretary is incompetent and does not deserve to hold the position. And quite honestly neither is the current Joint Chief of Staff (white) who retired as a 3 star general only to return and place a black 4 star general in the same position.
Arm chair generals who have never strapped on iron nor stood and faced down evil against a armed opponent (I have) should STFU about stuff they don't know about.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3081745]Thanks for making my point. When Canada imposes 250% tariffs on USA dairy product, you leftards still are against Trump and take Canada's side. Everything Trump does has to be bad for America.
As for Canada and energy, of course, Canada should have pipelines to the open market but you left and your climate change nuttery stopped that at every turn. Now you have done a 180 and somehow building pipelines is sticking it to Trump. In reality, those pipelines are going to take years and here is the dirty little secret. The tar sands of Canada and oil in Venezuela are very similar and while you Dems have been blasting Trump on Iran, you have not noticed what a success is going on in Venezuela.
Venezuela has doubled its paltry oil production. In addition, since Trump took over Venezuela's finances, money is being sent to the people of Venezuela and not finding its way into some dictator's foreign back account, and people on this very forum have commented on it.
$120 billion of Canada's $410 billion in exports were related to energy, but Venezuela has more proven reserves than anywhere in the world. If Venezuela gets its production going before those pipelines are built, the USA may be in the position to tell Canada thanks but no thanks with their oil, and Canada would be fucked..[/QUOTE]You are pretty much correct on everything especially about the great oil deal Trump made with Venezuela and that may really hurt Canada in the future if they do t change their leadership. But you failed to mention that Canada healthcare is terrible. Canada has no Canadian doctors but mostly Indian, South African and African doctors. Canada socialist healthcare is cheap and is great if you never get sick. Wait times for knee or hip replacement is 4-4.5 years. By then you are crippled. Cancer care is even worse. And you forgot to mention is that Canada even tariffs within their provinces not only USA. Canada messed up royally with playing hardball with Trump. They could have had and should have had 0 tariffs between USA and Canada. Canada is a mess and since their media is biased like CNN and MSNow most Canadians are duped. Not sure Canada can recover.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3081559]Friday, Aug. 21, may go down in history as Canada's Liberation Day. It was the day America came for Canada [I]...and Canada said NO! [/I].
[I]"But Mr. Carney did not simply reject a trade offer on Friday. He was openly defiant of the new breed of American aggression. We will not allow any nation to determine our future, he said.
The American president clearly did not know whom he was dealing with. [b]He is following in the grand tradition of American leaders starting wars with people they don't understand, then wondering what went wrong. [/b][/I]
Viva Canada's Liberation Day?[/QUOTE]Canada liberation day may end up being the worst thing that happened to Canada ever. Playing hardball with Trump was for political reasons only and has pretty much destroyed Canada economy. Alberta oil keeps Canada afloat and Trump cutting a deal with Venezuela could be the final blow to Canada. Socialist stupidity has pretty much destroyed Canada. Their unemployment is higher and their inflation is higher than USA and their economy is much worse.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3082224]And MAGA has gall and the nerve to wage a dumbass culture-war about DEI. Talk about hypocrites![/QUOTE]But you love DEI, why so mad?
It seems to me that the hypocrite is you, don't you see that?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3082188]Not only does it become more and more likely that Repub Donald Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his classic Repub economic policies and stewardship having failed to create one single net gain private-sector American job, but the even more depressing although hardly surprising fact is it is possible that all three most recent Repub presidents combined, through 20 horrific years of their classic Repub economic policies and stewardship, will not have created one single net gain private-sector American job.
And that's no joke. That is entirely possible.
[B]Jobs Created During Presidential Terms:[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms[/URL]
Anyway, back to today.
[B]Private payrolls rose by 38,000 in August, less than expected, ADP reports:[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/02/private-payrolls-rose-by-38000-in-august-fewer-than-expected-adp-reports.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL].[/QUOTE][URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/28/us-news/ex-iraqi-finance-minister-given-women-of-courage-awarded-by-jill-biden-lands-on-us-terror-watchlist/[/URL]
Lmfao, it's great to see that Biden gave an award to a terrorist. I mean it's not like there was any signs of foul play.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082463][URL]https://nypost.com/2026/08/28/us-news/ex-iraqi-finance-minister-given-women-of-courage-awarded-by-jill-biden-lands-on-us-terror-watchlist/[/URL]
Lmfao, it's great to see that Biden gave an award to a terrorist. I mean it's not like there was any signs of foul play.[/QUOTE]If you think a never-elected lady doing that is funny, you must have thought this early warning of disaster to come was hilarious:
[B]Trump attended fundraiser for Sinn Fin before London terror attack.
Republican presidential candidate attended a 1995 dinner in New York for Irish party accused of supporting terrorism just before attack in London.[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/09/donald-trump-ireland-sinn-fein-terrorism[/URL]
[QUOTE]Donald Trump attended a Sinn Fin fundraising dinner in New York just months before the party's allies in the Provisional IRA ended its ceasefire with a massive terror attack in London's Canary Wharf district.
As controversy rages over the Republican presidential candidate's demand that Muslims be barred from the United States to prevent Islamist terror attacks, footage has emerged of the tycoon shaking hands with Sinn Fin president Gerry Adams.
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But less than four months later the PIRA ended its ceasefire with a huge bomb in London's Docklands on 9 February 1996. Two men working in a nearby newsagents were killed in the massive explosion, which caused 100 m in damage to the Canary Wharf / South Quay district.
On his way to the New York fundraiser a few months earlier, Trump would have seen a group of demonstrators protesting ongoing IRA violence, including victims of the 1993 Shankill bomb massacre in which 10 people died. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Overall active-duty officers are roughly 73% White and ~27% racial minority, compared to 32% minority among all active-duty members. Black service members make up about 21% of enlisted personnel but only 9% of officers.[/QUOTE][URL]https://factually.co/fact-checks/military/percentage-african-american-officers-us-military-2026-fe76af[/URL]
[B]Top US general urges greater racial diversity in military[/B]
[QUOTE]As an example of the failure to increase racial diversity, Milley said that when the current chief of staff of the Air Force, Gen. Charles Q. Brown, was commissioned as a second lieutenant in 1984, only 2% of Air Force pilots were Black. Today, Milley said, the Air Force pilot population remains 2% Black.[/QUOTE][URL]https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-government-and-politics-1deffc0efb652716aa44dab756b614d1[/URL]
This might be a good time to remind the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media that Joe Biden's economic policies and stewardship's average monthly jobs creation number was 345,000 to 350,000 and Obama's post inherited 2010 jobs-crashing Great Repub Recession average with every Russia Russia Russia-loving Repub in the House and the Senate doing everything they could to obstruct and delay a Dem recovery from their Great Repub Recession was 160,000 to 227,000 per month. See the A. I. Overview screenshots below.
[B]U.S. added 162,000 jobs in August, but wage growth continues to lag inflation.
Revisions to June and July data boosted payrolls by 55,000, pointing to a labor market that is stronger than many economists believed.[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/august-jobs-report-trump-inflation-rcna595974[/URL]
As usual, if you have every reason to make a pathetically low estimate, even a piddling result vs one Dem and the bare minimum average for another will likely cause Repubs and their beloved electioneering partners in MSM doing backflips and cartwheels over it. Especially in an election year.
However, Trump being the classic Repub he is, he saw it as an opportunity to threaten even worse classic Repub results. LOL.
[B]Trump Reacts to Jobs Data: 'Lower The Rate or Ill Stop Trading With Countries'[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/articles/trump-reacts-jobs-data-lower-150722321.html[/URL]
Yep, he is still stuck on Super Stupid over the fact that countries with a fraction of the USA population are not buying as much stuff from the USA at a much higher labor and manufacturing cost as we buy from them at much lower labor and manufacturing cost. And he is demanding his Fed do everything it can to jack up his rate of inflation even more than it is exceeding USA wage growth already unless somebody does something about those trade deficits! LOL. Swear to god.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3082488]If you think a never-elected lady doing that is funny, you must have thought this early warning of disaster to come was hilarious:
[B]Trump attended fundraiser for Sinn Fin before London terror attack.
Republican presidential candidate attended a 1995 dinner in New York for Irish party accused of supporting terrorism just before attack in London.[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/09/donald-trump-ireland-sinn-fein-terrorism[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.axios.com/2018/01/05/report-obama-administration-backed-off-hezbollah-investigation-1515110648[/URL]
Biden awarded terrorists and Obama let narco terrorists freely finance terrorism and destroy the American society with drugs because he was so weak when it came to foreign policy and incredibly afraid of Iran.
It's amazing how much better President Trump is when it comes to Hezbollah, Iran and foreign policy.
Notice how I'm talking about foreign policy.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082410]It's good that Hegseth got rid of the failed DEI project, can't have that sort of incompetence in a war.[/QUOTE][B]Captain calamity: Pete Hegseth under fire for inept leadership of US military[/B]
[QUOTE]The US defense secretary faces internal dissent and discord at the Pentagon, accused of focusing on culture war issues and his own political ambitions as the Iran war drags on[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/05/pete-hegseth-pentagon-military[/URL]
The Secretary of War should do the honorable thing and resign before the current Article 2 leader fires him.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082574][URL]https://www.axios.com/2018/01/05/report-obama-administration-backed-off-hezbollah-investigation-1515110648[/URL]
Biden awarded terrorists and Obama let narco terrorists freely finance terrorism and destroy the American society with drugs because he was so weak when it came to foreign policy and incredibly afraid of Iran.
It's amazing how much better President Trump is when it comes to Hezbollah, Iran and foreign policy.
Notice how I'm talking about foreign policy.[/QUOTE]Thanks to Trump and that worthless defense secretary we are losing the war with Iran. How does this make Trump better than Obama?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082574][URL]https://www.axios.com/2018/01/05/report-obama-administration-backed-off-hezbollah-investigation-1515110648[/URL]
Biden awarded terrorists and Obama let narco terrorists freely finance terrorism and destroy the American society with drugs because he was so weak when it came to foreign policy and incredibly afraid of Iran.
It's amazing how much better President Trump is when it comes to Hezbollah, Iran and foreign policy.
Notice how I'm talking about foreign policy.[/QUOTE]The first sentence from your link:
[QUOTE]The Obama administration railroaded a U.S. effort to dismantle a Hezbollah drug-trafficking scheme since [b]it conflicted with aspirations to strike a nuclear deal with Iran[/b], according to a Politico report by Josh Meyer.[/QUOTE]Clearly that was by far the smarter and better goal.
Trump twice confirmed that Iran was in full compliance with that Iran deal that Obama and Kerry struck. Right before he tore it up, defunded and removed the inspectors, allowing Iran to do anything it damn well pleased unmonitored for the next several years.
Now he has plunged America into another Repub Forever War with Iran based on his lie and begging Iran to please, please, pretty please agree in writing to the same terms Obama and Kerry had already successfully gotten Iran to agree to without a stupid, counterproductive Repub Forever War.
And you are actually bringing up the subject of drugs in America re Trump? Lolol.
[B]Trump pardons drug kingpins even as he escalates U.S. drug war rhetoric[/B]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/31/nx-s1-5415939/trump-pardons-drug-kingpins-even-as-he-escalates-the-u-s-drug-war[/URL]
[B]SUN: Trump pardons Baltimore drug trafficker who ran multimillion-dollar ring[/B]
[URL]https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/president0trump-pardons-baltimore-drug-trafficker-garnett-smith[/URL]
[QUOTE]BALTIMORE (WBFF) A Baltimore drug kingpin who built a multimillion-dollar narcotics empire and lived a lavish, celebrity-style lifestyle before his arrest was pardoned by President Donald Trump in May, according to federal records obtained by The Baltimore Sun.
Garnett Gilbert Smith, also known as Abdule Jones and Brian Slack, was 44 when he was convicted in 2014 in federal court of conspiring to distribute and possess with intent to distribute cocaine. Smith was sentenced to 25 years in prison.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3082603]Thanks to Trump and that worthless defense secretary we are losing the war with Iran. How does this make Trump better than Obama?[/QUOTE]Obama lost all dignity, not only his own, but also the dignity of America by letting Iran aligned Narco terrorists freely commit crimes and even chose their side over the American people and US law enforcement. It's embarrassing, Obama took orders by Iran. It made not only himself and his administration the lapdog of Iran, but also the US and the American people! Unbelievable shameful and embarrassing!
It's embarrassing to see how you're unable to accept the facts, unlike you I have dignity. I'd rather die fighting to live free than to live on my knees.
Iran is losing this war, the oil is flowing through the Strait of Hormuz even CNN is recognizing that. I know that this war is going great as the Iranian economy is crumbling meanwhile I can still take cheap flights because the price of jet fuel is still so low.
President Trump is bringing glory and joy, meanwhile you bring lies and the Trump derangement syndrome and Obama brought shame and humiliation by surrendering to the Iranian regime! Where's your dignity? Why are you so set on being subjugated by the Iranian regime? It's embarrassing!
Unlike you I'm not about taking political sides, I'm interested in the bigger picture. I have shown that by criticizing Trump on various issues. You're a child, you can't admit the truth, you're only interested in spreading hate against President Trump!
This is by the way, exactly why Trump won the presidential election two times and someone like Trump will win it again, you Trump Derangement Syndrome people are not able to put America first.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3082614]The first sentence from your link:
Clearly that was by far the smarter and better goal.
Trump twice confirmed that Iran was in full compliance with that Iran deal that Obama and Kerry struck. Right before he tore it up, defunded and removed the inspectors, allowing Iran to do anything it damn well pleased unmonitored for the next several years.
Now he has plunged America into another Repub Forever War with Iran based on his lie and begging Iran to please, please, pretty please agree in writing to the same terms Obama and Kerry had already successfully gotten Iran to agree to without a stupid, counterproductive Repub Forever War.[/QUOTE]Obama surrendered, it was embarrassing and shameful. He made USA look weak and increased the Iranian regimes' power over Iran and the broader Middle Eastern region.
It's partially because of Obama's failed Iran deal that Iran has been able to build so many missiles. President Trump is the first President to take so something instead of letting the Iran snowball, with Obama being main culprit.
What se today is the Iranian regime being weaker and weaker and the Iranian economy is crumbling.
President Trump is doing great fixing the problems created by previous administrations and specifically Obama.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082624]Obama lost all dignity, not only his own, but also the dignity of America by letting Iran aligned Narco terrorists freely commit crimes and even chose their side over the American people and US law enforcement. It's embarrassing, Obama took orders by Iran. It made not only himself and his administration the lapdog of Iran, but also the US and the American people! Unbelievable shameful and embarrassing!
It's embarrassing to see how you're unable to accept the facts, unlike you I have dignity. I'd rather die fighting to live free than to live on my knees.
Iran is losing this war, the oil is flowing through the Strait of Hormuz even CNN is recognizing that. I know that this war is going great as the Iranian economy is crumbling meanwhile I can still take cheap flights because the price of jet fuel is still so low.
President Trump is bringing glory and joy, meanwhile you bring lies and the Trump derangement syndrome and Obama brought shame and humiliation by surrendering to the Iranian regime! Where's your dignity? Why are you so set on being subjugated by the Iranian regime? It's embarrassing!.[/QUOTE]Trump is bringing nothing shame to America. Is there any other country besides those commies in North Korea and Russia that Trump can get along with. Ronald Reagan must be spinning in his grave. But, when have Trump nut-huggers spewing nonsense that's what we get. When Obama was president was the Straight Of Hormuz open? Only someone feeble minded like Trump and his nut-huggers can get us locked into war and they are running out of weapons? How does that make any sense? Would you take a cross country trip to Disneyland with 20 bucks in your pocket and half a tank of gas and believe that you'll arrive at your destination?
I am also tired of off this TDS bullshit. If Trump can't handle people challenging him then he pack his orange make up and move back Mar-a 'Lago. The Iranians have him by the nuts (Trump nut-huggers are envious) and we get stuck with soaring gas prices and Navy that is totally burned out. They won't even let these guys get some pussy in Thailand. What Commander in Chief has ever told sailors they can't chase women? I must be losing my mind.
Not only has Trump pardoned some of the greatest convicted drug kingpin in the world but he is so busy keeping America safe from nail salon technicians, farm workers and busboys, his DOJ simply has no time for big-time illegal drug crimes in America anymore.
[B]Federal drug prosecutions fall to lowest level in decades as Trump shifts focus to deportations[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/federal-drug-prosecutions-fall-lowest-level-decades-trump-shifts-focus-2025-09-29/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Federal drug prosecutions drop 10% in 2025 as agents focus on immigration.
Number of new cases being filed is lowest in decades, according to Reuters analysis.
High-priority drug investigations have stalled, officials say.[/QUOTE]The lowest level in decades?
I forget, how many "decades" ago was the Obama and Biden presidencies? Surely, MAGAs wouldn't be stupid enough to bring up actual serious crime prosecutions under Trump vs those guys unless Trump's record far surpassed theirs, right?
Lolol. Yep. They are that stupid and much, much more. Hell, if they're stupid enough to bring up jobs creation, wage gains, crime rates, deficit spending, economic, national security, foreign policy and war policy results for Trump vs ANY other president much less Obama and Biden, they're stupid enough to bring up anything.
Oh, don't stop now, MAGAs. You're on a roll!
Since Alaska, when they wish for business with him, Trump and his gang like so often and so much to taste Putin cum in their mouth, making USA behaving just like porn actress, when Putin can t stop war now. Only making Russia broke can stop him and then he will be dead.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3082640]Trump is bringing nothing shame to America. Is there any other country besides those commies in North Korea and Russia that Trump can get along with. Ronald Reagan must be spinning in his grave. But, when have Trump nut-huggers spewing nonsense that's what we get. When Obama was president was the Straight Of Hormuz open? Only someone feeble minded like Trump and his nut-huggers can get us locked into war and they are running out of weapons? How does that make any sense? Would you take a cross country trip to Disneyland with 20 bucks in your pocket and half a tank of gas and believe that you'll arrive at your destination?
I am also tired of off this TDS bullshit. If Trump can't handle people challenging him then he pack his orange make up and move back Mar-a 'Lago. The Iranians have him by the nuts (Trump nut-huggers are envious) and we get stuck with soaring gas prices and Navy that is totally burned out. They won't even let these guys get some pussy in Thailand. What Commander in Chief has ever told sailors they can't chase women? I must be losing my mind.[/QUOTE]The war is going great, Iran is losing, Tehran's mayor is saying that the country is eroding, the airfares are low, the US sailors are in Pattaya, the oil is flowing through the strait of Hormusz, except for the Iranian oil, the Iranian economy is crumbling and this according to CNN.
It's pretty hilarious that CNN is too right-wing for you and the other TDS patients.
I will pray for you and hope that you one day will be able to see the truth and get rid of the TDS that is haunting you.
Unlike Obama our current great President Trump doesn't ask the Iranian regime for permission, under President Trump the US is a free and sovereign country! Not the servant of the Iranian regime like Obama was!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082750]The war is going great, Iran is losing, Tehran's mayor is saying that the country is eroding, the airfares are low, the US sailors are in Pattaya, the oil is flowing through the strait of Hormusz, except for the Iranian oil, the Iranian economy is crumbling and this according to CNN.
It's pretty hilarious that CNN is too right-wing for you and the other TDS patients.
I will pray for you and hope that you one day will be able to see the truth and get rid of the TDS that is haunting you.
Unlike Obama our current great President Trump doesn't ask the Iranian regime for permission, under President Trump the US is a free and sovereign country! Not the servant of the Iranian regime like Obama was![/QUOTE]Well said. USA is obviously winning the war and Iran is in dire straits. I can't believe how many posters on this site are cheering for Iran in this war and are Anti American just because Trump is president. These posters are either not American or traitors.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082625]Obama surrendered, it was embarrassing and shameful. He made USA look weak and increased the Iranian regimes' power over Iran and the broader Middle Eastern region.
It's partially because of Obama's failed Iran deal that Iran has been able to build so many missiles. President Trump is the first President to take so something instead of letting the Iran snowball, with Obama being main culprit.
What se today is the Iranian regime being weaker and weaker and the Iranian economy is crumbling.
President Trump is doing great fixing the problems created by previous administrations and specifically Obama.[/QUOTE]You are totally correct. Obama financed Iran terrorism and made it financially possible for Iran to stockpile missiles and develop their nuclear. Trump is the only president in the last 40 years to make a stand against Iran worldwide terrorism. The world is going to be a lot safer once Iran has been defeated. Already safer now.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082624]Obama lost all dignity, not only his own, but also the dignity of America by letting Iran aligned Narco terrorists freely commit crimes and even chose their side over the American people and US law enforcement. It's embarrassing, Obama took orders by Iran. It made not only himself and his administration the lapdog of Iran, but also the US and the American people! Unbelievable shameful and embarrassing!
It's embarrassing to see how you're unable to accept the facts, unlike you I have dignity. I'd rather die fighting to live free than to live on my knees.
Iran is losing this war, the oil is flowing through the Strait of Hormuz even CNN is recognizing that. I know that this war is going great as the Iranian economy is crumbling meanwhile I can still take cheap flights because the price of jet fuel is still so low.
President Trump is bringing glory and joy, meanwhile you bring lies and the Trump derangement syndrome and Obama brought shame and humiliation by surrendering to the Iranian regime! Where's your dignity? Why are you so set on being subjugated by the Iranian regime? It's embarrassing!.[/QUOTE]It is unbelievable that TDS has brainwashed so many people. The lies about Trump and America here are horrible.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3082750]The war is going great, Iran is losing, Tehran's mayor is saying that the country is eroding, the airfares are low, the US sailors are in Pattaya, the oil is flowing through the strait of Hormusz, except for the Iranian oil, the Iranian economy is crumbling and this according to CNN.
It's pretty hilarious that CNN is too right-wing for you and the other TDS patients.
I will pray for you and hope that you one day will be able to see the truth and get rid of the TDS that is haunting you.
Unlike Obama our current great President Trump doesn't ask the Iranian regime for permission, under President Trump the US is a free and sovereign country! Not the servant of the Iranian regime like Obama was![/QUOTE]Half of the Trump Administration doesn't know if it is a war or not. That includes Trump himself. You know, it's merely "an excursion" that is rapidly depleting the USA armament supplies.
Trump has not only revealed himself to be such a lousy negotiator that he can't even negotiate a trade deal with Canada, the only member country of the G7 that has a free trade deal with every other member country of the G7, but Trump's Energy Secretary is now admitting Trump is such a lousy negotiator that he will probably never be able to negotiate as good an anti-nuke deal with Iran as Obama negotiated and which Trump himself twice confirmed was working before he tore it up, defunded and removed the inspectors, leaving Iran free to do whatever it damn well pleased unmonitored for the next several years.
[B]U.S. Energy Secretary Wright says Iran nuclear deal may never happen[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/06/iran-us-response-oil-tanker-strikes.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]U..S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright said the Trump administration may never reach a deal to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
Wrights comments suggest the administration may pursue its goal of preventing an Iranian nuclear weapon without reaching a negotiated nuclear agreement.
Iranian parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf warned that future attacks on Iran would receive a faster, heavier, and more painful response.
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"There may not be a nuclear agreement. It may be simply destroying their capabilities to do it, Wright said on ABC News This Week. An agreement may await the next administration in Iran. We simply dont know that.[/QUOTE]But but but I thought Trump already "obliterated" Iran's ability to do that? Or was that a different war? Maybe that was the War Between "Aberbijian" and Albania that Trump is so proud of ending.
If what Wright has admitted to sounds an awful lot like preparation for another Repub "Boots-on-the-Ground Forever War in the Middle East" based on a Repub Lie with thousands, perhaps tens of thousands USA Military deaths, thousands more Iranian civilian deaths that will very likely once again end with an unconditional USA surrender handed to a subsequent Dem to do all the dirty work to pull us out of it, you are showing clear signs of fluency in translating Do Nothing, Know Nothing Repub-speak.
[QUOTE=Canada;3082781]Well said. USA is obviously winning the war and Iran is in dire straits.[/QUOTE]Congress, which holds the constitutional power to declare war, has not passed a formal declaration or an Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) for the current conflict. This is consistent with USA History, as the last formal declaration of war was during World War II in 1941. Once again I suggest to a uneducated or uninformed individual to read The Constitution of the United States of America.
[QUOTE=Canada;3082781]I can't believe how many posters on this site are cheering for Iran in this war and are Anti American just because Trump is president. [/QUOTE]I cannot believe how many posters on this site have not read The Constitution of the United States of America. It's not a war (reference is made to the paragraph written above. The undeclared military action has not been a success.
[QUOTE=Canada;3082781]These posters are either not American or traitors.[/QUOTE]I do not support the war. My opinion is allowed because I was born with the right to speak my opinions. This right is contained in the The Constitution of the United States of America. Those who have read the document and understand it can find my right in the part called The First Amendment.
[B]Traitor[/B]: [I]One who violates his allegiance and betrays his country; one guilty of treason; one who, in breach of trust, delivers his country to an enemy, or yields up any fort or place intrusted to his defense, or surrenders an army or body of troops to the enemy, unless when vanquished; also, one who takes arms and levies war against his country; or one who aids an enemy in conquering his country.[/I].
I an mont surprised at the number of individual who do not know the basic definitions of the English language. The should learn what the words they are writing mean before making posts that contain statements that simply do not make any sense.
[QUOTE=Canada;3082782]You are totally correct. Obama financed Iran terrorism and made it financially possible for Iran to stockpile missiles and develop their nuclear. Trump is the only president in the last 40 years to make a stand against Iran worldwide terrorism. The world is going to be a lot safer once Iran has been defeated. Already safer now.[/QUOTE]I worry more about crazy senile Trump than mollahs, in Europe. Mollahs are only a problem for Iranians and Israel, but Israel with Netanyahou have problem with everybody except Trump. Trump won t change mollahs, but made big messe for economics and inflation for the world. Trump put big shame on USA, except for Netanyahou and Putin.
[URL]https://www.tmz.com/2026/09/05/influencer-dies-after-penis-enlargement-surgery/[/URL]#google_vignette.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3083137]I worry more about crazy senile Trump than mollahs, in Europe. Mollahs are only a problem for Iranians and Israel, but Israel with Netanyahou have problem with everybody except Trump. Trump won t change mollahs, but made big messe for economics and inflation for the world. Trump put big shame on USA, except for Netanyahou and Putin.[/QUOTE]But Trump, rather than his I will stop war in 1 day for his election, same than peace and no war, is so good to DT BJ till Putin cum deep in his mouth and so often, probably why he is so fat, eating too much Putin proteins since Alaska, wishing to make business with Putin, rather than making Russia broke which is only way to stop Putin who dream about new USSR. This is what Trump makes for USA image, the world seeing them sucking Putin like a porn.
"We are six months out now from the beginning of the Iran war, if that's what it is. It's not a formally declared war. It's not even like any war we've seen in the past.
It began on Feb. 28 with a 38- to 39-day bombing that did enormous damage to Iran. And ever since then, it's evened out to a tit-for-tat every couple of weeks, negotiations, a memorandum of understanding, but we should remember that it's not like any war we've seen.
One of the reasons it isn't is we can get no reliable information. There are no embedded reporters because there are no American or Western troops on the ground, and the Ministry of Information in Iran is less reliable than Saddam Hussein's Baghdad Bob.
And to the degree there are foreigners within Iran that are trapped, they don't risk their lives by trying to communicate with us.
And Iranians themselves know if they call relatives in Europe or the United States and disclose information, they can be killed or executed.
So, there's a complete news blackout. In that vacuum, of course, it didn't stop The Washington Post, but especially The New York Times, from telling the American people we've essentially lost the war.
And we've even had illustrious people like Robert Kagan, as I've mentioned in the past, or John Mearsheimer from Harvard saying that essentially the war is lost. I don't know how they can draw that conclusion when we don't have reliable information.
We do have information that comes from Israel, which did a lot of damage to Iran and has photo reconnaissance, and us, but of course they don't trust the Trump administration.
The other thing to remember about this war is there are two laws, canons, protocols that we haven't seen before. The first: Under no circumstances will there be American troops on the ground. No American troops on the ground, given the misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. So we are not invading, we're not going to overthrow the government, we're not going to arm the resistance for good or evil. That's just not going to happen because it's politically impossible.
The other sideline or parameter that we cannot violate, or that we have to respect, is we can't do enough damage that would impair the Iranians' ability to eat, sleep, get fuel, and exist.
If this was a true enemy, as was Germany in World War II, as was Japan, North Korea, or Vietnam, we would be taking out power plants as we did in Serbia with Bill Clinton, or we would be taking out dockworks like we did with Barack Obama in Libya, or bridges, all of them, as Bill Clinton did on the Danube.
But we're not doing that. And I guess the rationale is the Iranian people are now short of food, they're short of water, they're short of fuel, and we count on them to rise up at some point in the fashion of Eastern Europeans or Russians during the period following the Cold War.
So, we do not want to do enough damage to Iran to hurt the viability of a successive free government, and we don't want to put troops on the ground. So that means that it has to be air power.
There's another consideration. The countries that would benefit just as much or more than we doJapan, South Korea, most of Europe, which import oil either from North Africa or from the Gulf states, or themselves are terrified of terrorism, specifically European countries that know that even Arab terrorists who seem to be Sunni terrorists are indirectly subsidized by Iran.
So, they know that if this government falls, there will be no interference with the Strait of Hormuz. But more importantly, you can criticize anybody you want. If you criticize the Iranian government now and you're a European country, or you take sanctions against them, they will retaliate by closing the Strait, and that's what they were afraid of.
It's not quite true, as we are told by the Left, that the strait was always open until President Donald Trump got us in this war and then they closed it. It was open conditional on the attitude of the particular country using it.
So, where does this leave us? This leaves us with a new situation. And in that void, finally, as happens in war, we have a new comprehensive strategy.
We really didn't have a strategy in the Civil War until 1863 or 1864 when Grant said, "I will go down and tie up the Army of Northern Virginia and bleed it white while Uncle Billy Sherman is going to go down to Atlanta, the transportation hub of the Confederacy, destroy it, and then humiliate the martial chivalry and chauvinism of the Southern soldier by marching right through Georgia and then through the Carolinas to meet Grant and end the war."
That didn't formulate until there'd been 250,000 Union dead.
So, what's my point? We finally get a strategy that some of us might want to say, "Why didn't we do this at the beginning?
And what is that strategy? It's the "anaconda strategy" that I mentioned.
So, we are doing a type of blockade, sanctions, freezing of bank accounts, targeting individual theocrats who live double lives, very austere, very religious, very sanctimonious in Iran, not so much in Europe, where they use their ill-gotten gains to buy penthouses, suites, properties, investments that get high interest for a theocracy that says interest itself is sacrilegious.
And if we squeeze them as we are, they will break.
The question is now a political one, and it has two corollaries.
At what point will the Iranian economy cease to function entirely, and that will force people to take great risk and go out and remove this regime in hopes that immediately there will be billions of dollars of Western aid, which there will be, and the country will be reopened?
That's one question.
And will this new anaconda strategy break the regime before the midterms?
Because mark my words, if we have a midterm landslide for the Democrats, as happened against Barack Obama in the case of a Republican landslide that neutered his last two years, this opposition isn't like Republican oppositions.
When the Republicans took the House, they did not impeach Barack Obama. They did not impeach Joe Biden.
This bunch will immediately stop all House proceedings, try to cut off the war, deny funds to the military, and begin impeachment hearings against Donald Trump and most of his Cabinet.
At that point, the Iranian theocracy will be emboldened to take even more severe measures in hopes that the Left is a de facto ally.
Finally, one last perspective, because we are in a dispute with Canada right now as well.
One of the things that came up is President Javier Milei of Argentina said that the Falklands really, given their proximity, should go to Argentina.
He's a big supporter of Donald Trump. The economics and government and new culture in Argentina are much more akin to a conservative government in the United States than is the hard-left government in the you. K.
The hard-left government of Mr. Keir Starmer and the present government, remember, had denied us airspace rights, had put Diego Garcia, a key island in the Indian Ocean, off-limits for our resupply.
And now what happens? The Falklands comes up, and the British media is paranoid.
Why are they paranoid?
Because they have broken a traditional close relationship with the United States.
Milei senses that, senses his affinity for free-market economics under Donald Trump and conservative governance, and all of a sudden thinks he might take a risk and the United States would not get into it as it did during the tenure of Margaret Thatcher when we saved them.
Bottom line: If the United States were not to help Great Britain logistically protect the Falklands, they would not have the ability to do that.
And that would be something that would be a reminder to all of our allies that alliances are not one-way.
And so this war, for all the criticism that it's incurred in the United States and in Europe, does have historical importance.
It's very crucial for Western civilization because it will change the entire Middle East and eliminate a 50-year existential threat.
And no president, given his advisers' acumen, who said, "Do not go into that hornet's nest, just rhetorically say it has to be done. Tell everybody it has to be done to stop this regime. You've got to stop their nuclear weapon, but pass it on to the next president."
Donald Trump didn't do that, and we'll see what happens in November."
The losses are being socialized and dumped on me and my fellow citizens. The gains are being privatized through the stimulus check being written for all the war spending to the munitions companies. 92% of the stock market is owned by wealthy people.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/09/treasury-department-to-buy-back-6-billion-in-longer-term-debt-triple-the-normal-level.html[/URL]
You will own nothing and be happy about it. If you are not stacking sats, then you better be stacking gold, silver or buying land so you can grow your own food. That fiat paper and stable coins are worthless everyday that passes.
Looks like trumpys war monger, inflation, Racist party is having a convention because they know there are going to Lose and are Losing. Donald Drumpf is the worse political leader of the Last century.
So, Iran is controlling and manipulating the time, terms and conditions that must exist to end Trump's latest Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, are they?
[B]Trump says the war in Iran will end after Election Day[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/trump-says-war-iran-will-end-after-election-day-rcna596950[/URL]
[QUOTE]"The war will be over very shortly after the election," Trump said. "They're hanging out for dear life, hoping that we lose, so they can deal with dumb, weak Democrats and they can have their nuclear bomb. But were not going to let that happen."
The war Trump once predicted would last only four or five weeks is now in its seventh month. A recent NBC News Decision Desk Poll powered by SurveyMonkey found that 69% of Americans disapprove of Trumps handling of the war. The share of Republicans who say they strongly approve of his handling of the war has dropped 18 percentage points since the spring and now stands at 30%.[/QUOTE]There is no other name for the side that calls all the shots for how, when and why the fighting ends vs the side that has to wait patiently for their decision than the "winner. " That is by the admission of the dumb, weak current USA Commander-in-Chief, not any Dem's admission.
CIA reported no risk from Iran about nuclear. Netanyahou makes war with everybody. When he promised peace in the world to be re elected, must be really dumb to re elect him, Trump followed his friend, war criminal Netanyahou and killed 150 Iranian girls who were at school, if I was father of one, I would have only one aim in life, to revenge. Then, when Ormuz was a free pass before Trump, now his ignorance and stupidity make inflation for Americans and the world, when same mollahs are still there. When Musk corrupted for his election, now, when he worries for midterms, when he failed for 2 years, he tries to fuck elections and promises now 5000 USD to buy, corruption again, citizens. Desperate guy, when more than 60% Americans disagree his politics and results. For my Christmas, get rid of him and I wish same for Netanyahou on Israel elections. Must still be few people who have a brain. If no more Trump, Ormuz will be easier and less inflation for a better, more quiet life in our world than under crazies.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvK4v1jUhAE&t=9s[/URL]
I am starting to like this guy more and more. A liberal Democrat who is unafraid to stand up for America and who openly opposes the Woke, Communist (DSA) nut jobs who have apparently taken over the Democratic Party.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvK4v1jUhAE&t=9s[/URL]
[QUOTE]Brent crude rose past $102 per barrel on Thursday, the highest in over three months and soaring nearly 15% since the start of September, as escalatory strikes between Iran and the US further supressed supply from the key region. Tehran signaled it will not back down from a military blockade as the US launched attacks against a series of Iranian tankers near Kharg Island, host to the state's key energy infrastructure. The deteriorating backdrop from the Middle East dims expectations that supply from the region could be normalized as Asian economies are forced to re-enter the energy market. China imported 8.93 bpd of crude oil in August, a 6.2% increase from July, after its reliance on inventory since the start of the conflict had shielded the global economy from a deeper energy shortage due to blockaded tankers in the Persian Gulf. Inventories were also lower in the US, with the government's SPR hovering at a record low.[/QUOTE]Yet there are Republicans here posting that the undeclared military action against Iran is working. Their collective statements defy logic. You see they cannot spin the oil price in the market.
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3083366]Looks like trumpys war monger, inflation, Racist party is having a convention because they know there are going to Lose and are Losing. Donald Drumpf is the worse political leader of the Last century.[/QUOTE]The democrats is the true racist party.
Nazism, Islamism, antisemitism, racism is way too common these days in the Democratic Party.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3083395]So, Iran is controlling and manipulating the time, terms and conditions that must exist to end Trump's latest Repub Forever War of Choice Based on a Repub Lie, are they?
[B]Trump says the war in Iran will end after Election Day[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/trump-says-war-iran-will-end-after-election-day-rcna596950[/URL]
There is no other name for the side that calls all the shots for how, when and why the fighting ends vs the side that has to wait patiently for their decision than the "winner. " That is by the admission of the dumb, weak current USA Commander-in-Chief, not any Dem's admission.[/QUOTE]It's not easy getting old.
What President Trump actually said is that the Iranians last hope is that their friends in the Democratic Party will give them a last lifeline. I'm not saying that the democrats are all traitors but it seems like Iran and the Democratic Party are allies.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083494]The democrats is the true racist party.[/QUOTE]As I said before, the statements that Republicans make in this thread defy logic and reason.
[QUOTE][b]Campaign tactics and the strategic use of race-coded messaging[/b]
Investigations of recent campaigns document repeated instances where Republican ads and imagery have injected race into contests, [u]particularly against Black candidates[/u], prompting accusations that fear-based, racially coded messaging has become an important weapon in Republican campaigns; critics argue these tactics exploit racial anxieties to mobilize voters, while defenders contend tough-on-crime or school-choice ads address legitimate policy concerns and are not inherently racist.[/QUOTE][URL]https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/why-are-republicans-racist-explained-5d8031[/URL]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083494]The democrats is the true racist party.
Nazism, Islamism, antisemitism, racism is way too common these days in the Democratic Party.[/QUOTE]Democrats have always been the racist party. They embraced slavery and Republicans stopped slavery. Democrats were racist 100 years ago and obviously are now.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083496]It's not easy getting old.
What President Trump actually said is that the Iranians last hope is that their friends in the Democratic Party will give them a last lifeline. I'm not saying that the democrats are all traitors but it seems like Iran and the Democratic Party are allies.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Iran is trying to hold on until after the midterms in hopes the democrats will save them. They are counting on the democrats to try to limit Trumps powers and allow Iran to continue their nuclear and terrorism ambitions. Democrats have sponsored terrorism for years and years.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083430][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvK4v1jUhAE&t=9s[/URL]
I am starting to like this guy more and more. A liberal Democrat who is unafraid to stand up for America and who openly opposes the Woke, Communist (DSA) nut jobs who have apparently taken over the Democratic Party.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvK4v1jUhAE&t=9s[/URL][/QUOTE]I agree. Fetterman is a Democrat who does what is right for his state and his country. It is a shame that so many democrats in congress are anti American. It is a shame there are so many anti Trump, anti America posters on this site that are cheering Iran and terrorists on.
[QUOTE=Canada;3083531]Exactly. Iran is trying to hold on until after the midterms in hopes the democrats will save them. They are counting on the democrats to try to limit Trumps powers and allow Iran to continue their nuclear and terrorism ambitions. Democrats have sponsored terrorism for years and years.[/QUOTE]Islamists are proud to die when your fat Trump is afraid to die and same for your marines. Trump was elected with Musk corruption and now Trump is trying to corrupt again, USA are not a democracy, under Trump.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083503]As I said before, the statements that Republicans make in this thread defy logic and reason.
[URL]https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/why-are-republicans-racist-explained-5d8031[/URL][/QUOTE]Lmfao, you democrats sure love to play the race card.
I find the racism, Nazism, Islamism and antisemitism in the Democratic party to be repulsive.
Instead of trying to work on their own party democrats starts to cry about Republicans. It's sad to see.
[QUOTE=Canada;3083531]Exactly. Iran is trying to hold on until after the midterms in hopes the democrats will save them. They are counting on the democrats to try to limit Trumps powers and allow Iran to continue their nuclear and terrorism ambitions. Democrats have sponsored terrorism for years and years.[/QUOTE]What, pray tell, has Congress done or not done that has had or would ever have influenced Trump's decisions about plunging America into another Repub Forever War of Choice in the Middle East Based on a Repub Lie in order to pay Netanyahu back for contributing more to Trump's squeaker of a raxor-thin 2024 election win than any other person on Earth?
Trump is obviously saying Iran is pulling the same USA election-influencing ploy that won the 1980 election for Reagan and the 2024 election for him; stoking anti Administration animosity by choosing to prolong a conflict until after an election.
If Trump was the "winner" of a war he claims has already been "won", that is when he slips and admits it is a war at all, he wouldn't be commenting on how those dastardly Iranians just won't stop the fighting of his war until they make sure his Party cannot actually and in reality claim it has been won and actually in reality is over.
Because Iran is in greater control over what is happening and what will happen next than he is. As he knows very well.
[QUOTE][b]U.S. diesel price tops $6 per gallon, a record high as Ukraine and Iran wars ripple through economy[/b]
U.S. diesel prices hit $6 per gallon on Friday for the first time ever, as fuel supply disruptions triggered by the Ukraine and Iran wars raises transportation costs across the entire economy.
Truckers and farmers are paying about 63% more to fill up their semis and tractors than they did at this time last year, according to data from AAA. The average price nationwide is now $6.0556 per gallon.
Prices are even higher in California, the biggest agriculture state in the U.S., at $7.9827 per gallon.
Fuel costs are rising as crude oil prices have surged in response to a sharp escalation in fighting between the U.S. and Iran this month. U.S. crude oil futures topped $100 per barrel on Thursday for the first time since May. The contract has gained about 20% in September..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/11/diesel-price-iran-strait-hormuz-ukraine-russia.html[/URL]
Is this the Republican example of a undeclared military action working on behalf of my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of America? Thank you Republicans for showing that you just don't care about the average citizen (especially the poor ones like myself) in the Dis United States of America.
By the way, anyone here had Melania back when she was on the menu? Also did you guys notice Hunter Biden's sex workers seem low quality (probably chap too), you could get 10 X hotter girls in Ukraine (before Putin went crazy).
I vote with my feet and my money. Politics are irrelevant.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083555]Lmfao, you democrats sure love to play the race card. I find the racism, Nazism, Islamism and antisemitism in the Democratic party to be repulsive. Instead of trying to work on their own party democrats starts to cry about Republicans. It's sad to see.[/QUOTE]Hard to ignore the facts about Republicans. Their public statements and position of public policy issues speak for themselves.
[QUOTE]Voting rights restrictions and economic policy cuts are the two primary categories of Republican policies frequently cited by critics as disproportionately harming minority communities. These measures are often described as targeting the socioeconomic characteristics of people of color under the guise of "administrative efficiency" or "fiscal responsibility."[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/republican-voter-suppression-midterm-elections-1234620519/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Republicans, not democrats make policy to harm Americans[/QUOTE][URL]https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/do-republican-policies-harm-americans-evidence-and-impacts-80a2b3[/URL]
[QUOTE]Republicans Want a White Republic. They'll Destroy America to Get It[/QUOTE][URL]https://time.com/5628283/trump-tweets-racist-white-america/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;3083531]Democrats have sponsored terrorism for years and years.[/QUOTE]The US army is the biggest terrorist entity in the word. They are not called the US terrorist army for nothing. So democrats or republicans are two sides of the same coin in that matter.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3083540]Islamists are proud to die when your fat Trump is afraid to die and same for your marines. Trump was elected with Musk corruption and now Trump is trying to corrupt again, USA are not a democracy, under Trump.[/QUOTE]Sadly USA have never been a democracy, it's the uniparty running everything there. The party of war. No matter who they vote for they get john McCain. The current president campaigned on ending forever wars and what does he do when he gets his seat in the White House? Attack every body and threaten every others. What about his claims of ending the Ukraine war in 24 hour? Not even able to get Zelensky to shut his mouth in front of him and his idiot vice president. At least the powerful irgc guys slapped him good, president Donald Epstein is scared to confront them again.
[QUOTE=Canada;3083529]Democrats have always been the racist party. They embraced slavery and Republicans stopped slavery. Democrats were racist 100 years ago and obviously are now.[/QUOTE]This could be why this person is embracing them now!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083430]I am starting to like this guy more and more. A liberal Democrat who is unafraid to stand up for America and who openly opposes the Woke, Communist (DSA) nut jobs who have apparently taken over the Democratic Party.[/QUOTE]Does not surprise me that this democrat is being received with open arms.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3082188]Not only does it become more and more likely that Repub Donald Trump will leave office after two terms, 8 miserable years, with his classic Repub economic policies and stewardship having failed to create one single net gain private-sector American job, but the even more depressing although hardly surprising fact is it is possible that all three most recent Repub presidents combined, through 20 horrific years of their classic Repub economic policies and stewardship, will not have created one single net gain private-sector American job.[/QUOTE]Do you understand that the Democratic party is historically racist?
[QUOTE]historically the Democratic Party was deeply entangled with racism, particularly in the 19th and early 20th centuries. From its antebellum era through the mid-20th century, the party, especially its Southern wing, served as the primary political vehicle for slavery, Jim Crow segregation, and white supremacy.[/QUOTE][B]Whos kidding who? Setting the record straight on the political ancestry of modern American racism[/B]
[URL]https://ncnewsline.com/2021/08/31/whos-kidding-who-setting-the-record-straight-on-the-political-ancestry-of-modern-american-racism/[/URL]
There is not real differences between the political parities in the Dis United States of America. They are both looking out for their own interests. None of them are looking out for mine. Why? Because I am poor.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2837254]Neither the donkey or the elephant has my interests in mind. Both parties are interested in keeping their cushy jobs. That's it!
[I]I'm countin' down to the day deservin', fittin' for a king; I'm waitin' for the time when I can get to Arizona; Cause my money is spent for the goddamn rent; [b]Neither party is mine, not the donkey or the elephant[/b][/I] - [B]Public Enemy,[/B] [I]By the time I get to Arizona[/I].
[URL]https://rockthebells.com/articles/public-enemy-by-the-time-i-get-to-arizona/[/URL]
[B]All of this political bullshit is designed to distract the people from living in the country with the greatest wealth inequality on earth.[/B]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/imperialinsights/2023/03/24/the-rich-are-getting-richer--but-is-the-wealth-gap-worse-in-europe-or-the-us/?sh=1c8be7f42154[/URL][/QUOTE]Click on view original post and check the date. You are welcome for the education. Pay more attention to my work before making a political accusations. Because without reviewing it and making assumptions the likelihood is that you will be wrong.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083555]Lmfao, you democrats sure love to play the race card. I find the racism, Nazism, Islamism and antisemitism in the Democratic party to be repulsive. Instead of trying to work on their own party democrats starts to cry about Republicans. It's sad to see.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083565][URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/11/diesel-price-iran-strait-hormuz-ukraine-russia.html[/URL]
Is this the Republican example of a undeclared military action working on behalf of my fellow citizens of the Dis United States of America? Thank you Republicans for showing that you just don't care about the average citizen (especially the poor ones like myself) in the Dis United States of America.[/QUOTE]Who but a loving, caring Repub so-called president would so generously promise to pay every American adult $5000 if they vote the way he wishes them to vote in order to prevent him from adding the 2026 midterms to his list of things he touched that turned to shit and died?
We all know how the conversation at Mar-a-Lardo went:
Miller: "Sir, the people who support you and your Republican Party have been blitheringly stupid enough to believe our "wokeism", DEI, Culture War bullshit talking points all these years and thereby put us into power in order to consistently over and over achieve our Party's singular mission and goal to produce one Great Depression, Great Recession and Massive American Jobs Destruction after another going back at least 100 years as well as plunge America into any and every Forever, Unwinnable, Counterproductive War of Choice possible, Sir. So, Sir, you know they will be blitheringly stupid enough to fall for a $5000 bribe that only numbskulls like them could ever believe you will pay, Sir."
Trump: "Of course, I know they are that blitheringly stupid. That's the reason I chose to run for office in the Republican Party!
Miller: "Sir, right, Sir. Sir, then $5000 is the bribery con number, Sir?
Trump: "Covfefe!
Miller: "Sir, yes, Sir! Sir, I'll load it into the teleprompter, Sir."
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083633]Click on view original post and check the date. You are welcome for the education. Pay more attention to my work before making a political accusations. Because without reviewing it and making assumptions the likelihood is that you will be wrong.[/QUOTE]The problem in the US is mainly the rampant antisemitism.
Otherwise it just seems silly to complain about "racism" when we see the crime stats that you refuse to acknowledge.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3083612]Sadly USA have never been a democracy, it's the uniparty running everything there. The party of war. No matter who they vote for they get john McCain. The current president campaigned on ending forever wars and what does he do when he gets his seat in the White House? Attack every body and threaten every others. What about his claims of ending the Ukraine war in 24 hour? Not even able to get Zelensky to shut his mouth in front of him and his idiot vice president. At least the powerful irgc guys slapped him good, president Donald Epstein is scared to confront them again.[/QUOTE]The irgc are weak, they failed to protect the ayatollah and their top brass. Iran can't even export their oil and the economy is failing to the extent that even the mayor of Tehran is saying that the country is falling apart from the inside.
USA is a democracy, it's a simple and overwhelmingly obvious fact. Quite easy to verify.
Why would any American want to silence President Zelenskyj? He's a doing a great job humiliating the Russian losers.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083670]USA is a democracy, it's a simple and overwhelmingly obvious fact. Quite easy to verify.[/QUOTE]The USA Is more precisely described as a constitutional federal republic. This means:
Constitutional: Government power is limited by the Constitution, which protects individual rights regardless of majority rule.
Federal: Power is divided between the national government and the 50 state governments.
Republic: Supreme power is vested in the people, who exercise it through elected officials.
The distinction between "democracy" and "republic" is often misunderstood. In modern political science, these terms are not mutually exclusive; the USA Combines democratic principles (majority rule and citizen participation) with republican institutions (elected representatives and constitutional limits on power). While the word "democracy" does not appear in the Constitution, the Framers (all white landholders and some that owned slaves) and early leaders like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams used the term to describe the representative system they created.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083669]Otherwise it just seems silly to complain about "racism" when we see the crime stats that you refuse to acknowledge.[/QUOTE]What crime stats are you referring to?
Would those be the number of white police officers that kill minorities and receive no penalty for doing so?
Federal immigration agents (ICE) have killed at least five USA Citizens during the second administration of the current Article 2 leader, with at least 11 total fatalities (including non-citizens) from shootings by ICE and CBP agents since January 2025.
Individuals who lack the ability to think in a logical manner and perform analysis think the Dis United States of America are winning this undeclared military action.
[QUOTE]Can the Houthis close the Red Sea after seizing the Yemen coast?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/11/can-the-houthis-close-the-red-sea-after-seizing-the-yemen-coast[/URL]
[QUOTE][b]Saudi Arabia shuts key oil pipeline after drone attack launched from Iraq[/b][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62m933465eo[/URL]
Saudi Arabia is requesting military assistance.
-Majid Rafizadeh: "One of the most effective methods Israel used to weaken Hezbollah and Hamas was the systematic targeting and removal of leadership. Trump started to use the same tactic, then stopped. Reapplying it would deliver a helpful message that the regime cannot continue on its current path.
If the US is concerned that then there might not be anyone with whom to make a "deal," the US should not be looking for a deal. A "deal" will not be honored by Iran, anyway. The US should be looking for unconditional surrender.
Iran's rulers, who have murdered an estimated 100,000 of their own citizens, clearly could not care less if a million oil tankers are hit or if "ordinary Iranians" cannot buy food or fuel. Whatever happened to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's threat to reclaim for the people of Iran their leaders' secret bank accounts in the British Virgin Islands and $100 million villas?
The United Arab Emirates, after Iran targeted its territory with missiles and drones, once again highlighted the decisive, farsighted leadership of President Mohamed bin Zayed al Nahyan to cut trade and financial relations with Iran. Severing relations with Iran's regime should become the standard.
It would be a blessing to eliminate this Islamist regime and as soon as we can. It has spread terrorism, anti-Americanism, antisemitism and the sickening repression of a great people for nearly five decades. The opportunity is here. Let us get it done."
Dr. Majid Rafizadeh is a political scientist, Harvard-educated analyst, and board member of Harvard International Review. He has authored several books on the US foreign policy.
[QUOTE]-Majid Rafizadeh: "One of the most effective methods Israel used to weaken Hezbollah and Hamas was the systematic targeting and removal of leadership. Trump started to use the same tactic, then stopped. Reapplying it would deliver a helpful message that the regime cannot continue on its current path.
If the US is concerned that then there might not be anyone with whom to make a "deal," the US should not be looking for a deal. A "deal" will not be honored by Iran, anyway. The US should be looking for unconditional surrender.
Iran's rulers, who have murdered an estimated 100,000 of their own citizens, clearly could not care less if a million oil tankers are hit or if "ordinary Iranians" cannot buy food or fuel. Whatever happened to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's threat to reclaim for the people of Iran their leaders' secret bank accounts in the British Virgin Islands and $100 million villas?
The United Arab Emirates, after Iran targeted its territory with missiles and drones, once again highlighted the decisive, farsighted leadership of President Mohamed bin Zayed al Nahyan to cut trade and financial relations with Iran. Severing relations with Iran's regime should become the standard.
It would be a blessing to eliminate this Islamist regime and as soon as we can. It has spread terrorism, anti-Americanism, antisemitism and the sickening repression of a great people for nearly five decades. The opportunity is here. Let us get it done."
Dr. Majid Rafizadeh is a political scientist, Harvard-educated analyst, and board member of Harvard International Review. He has authored several books on the US foreign policy.[/QUOTE]Easy for academics to write. But has he sat in a political chair with real diplomatic power? If he has not then he is NO expert in actual war fighting and diplomatic operations. I do not give my agency over to experts. He is just another individual writing from the safety of his arm chair in a office. Is he willing to put himself, son or daughter or any member of his family in harms way to accomplish the objectives he proffers in the quote the OP posted?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083717]Dr. Majid Rafizadeh is a political scientist, Harvard-educated analyst, and board member of Harvard International Review. He has authored several books on the US foreign policy.[/QUOTE]You could also have quoted the son of the last king of Iran. This rafikzadeh is the same kind who fled his country to live a lavish life in USA. Of course he is respected by the leaders of the US terrorist army as he is playing their propaganda. These people were orgasming at the sight of seeing their former country being bombed by terrorists willing to give it the same fate than the late great republic of Syria.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3082219]And what point would that be, about Canada?
LOL! As usually the MAGA faithless, can't see the trees through the forest and are blinded by dumb culture-wars MAGA ideology, too backwards, to see it's own [I]U.S. nation[/I] in decline under MAGA Fuhrer 2.0.
Slow your MAGA horses! Once again no doubt, your MAGA knuckleheaded ideology and understanding, of Canada's energy situation, is nothing, if not very rudimentary at best.
What you fail to realize (and is blatantly obvious) is that Canada, the EU, China, the Global South and all the worlds nations, are pivoting with regards their energy security and future reliance on fossil fuels and moving more towards, clean renewable energy, after seeing yet another fossil fuel crisis, ballistic high diesel, gas and fossil prices go through the roof, due to your [I]dumbass illegal MAGA Fuhrer/Bonkers Bibi's U.S./Israeli[/I] war on Iran.
But hey [I]...if Canada[/I] wants to build oil and gas pipelines to nowhere (beyond the current ones), they should have at it!
But let's be perfectly clear, many on the left in Canada, still believe it a "fool's errand" and once again will be a waste of taxpayer's money to enrich fossil fuel billionaires, and those future pipelines to supposedly supply Asia, are a relatively futurist dead end, as the Global South pivots to clean energy and electrification.
Not only will the future Asian market NOT be there in the abundance, for Canada to sell it's fossil fuels, but it's high cost of production per barrel of oil, will precariously leave put in very uncompetitive grounds with low production costs from [I]OPEC, UAE, the Saudis and the U.S[/I].
In the infamous nonsensical MAGA words, of Sec. Of Energy Chris Wright, [I][B]"...there is, no there's there"[/B] {...essentially saying this about climate change...}[/I].
[B]AND FOR GOOD MEASURE[/B] [I](...to make my point clear)[/I]:
Coincidentally, according to many sources like Bloomberg NEF, China's oil demand probably just peaked, in 2025. Even the biggest oil producer in China, Sinopec, recently came out and declared this. [I]Sinopec, China Oil Demand 'Very Likely' Peaked in 2025,[/I] Aug 24th, 2026. [URL]https://www.rigzone.com/news/wire/sinopec_says_china_oil_demand_very_likely_peaked_in_2025-24-aug-2026-184444-article/[/URL].
So please tell me, as the EU and the Global South (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa, Australia), follows China towards electrification, I wonder who these future Asian markets will be, that Canadian pipelines, are going to be selling their high-priced, fossil fuels to, ahead of the lowest cost producers like, OPEC or the UAE?[/QUOTE]Remember when we had the discussion about SMR in the Dominican Republic? Well Thailand just announce today that they are going to pursue them. Target for commercial operation is 2037.
[URL]https://solarquarter.com/2026/08/26/thailand-plans-9-gw-of-small-modular-reactor-capacity-by-2050/[/URL]
Spidy, please come back. We need more intelligent input into this thread. I am holding it down by myself right now.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083615]This could be why this person is embracing them now!
Does not surprise me that this democrat is being received with open arms.
Do you understand that the Democratic party is historically racist?
[B]Whos kidding who? Setting the record straight on the political ancestry of modern American racism[/B]
[URL]https://ncnewsline.com/2021/08/31/whos-kidding-who-setting-the-record-straight-on-the-political-ancestry-of-modern-american-racism/[/URL]
There is not real differences between the political parities in the Dis United States of America. They are both looking out for their own interests. None of them are looking out for mine. Why? Because I am poor.[/QUOTE]Historically? I doubt any White Supremacist organization member has voted for anyone in the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party since 1968.
Interestingly, the Democratic Party's economic philosophy and methods and consequently their far, far superior economic policy results historically has not really changed in well over 100 years but their stance on social issues has. Hence, the reason no member of a White Supremacist organization having voted for them since the 1960's. Unless they so much prefer their obvious superior economic policy results more than they hate non whites. Then I suppose they hold their nose and vote for Democrats.
So if you want the Best of Both Worlds, by all means vote for Democrats, which is what anyone who wants that result should have been doing since 1960.
Amazingly, the Republican Party's historically godawful economic philosophy and methods and consequently horrific economic results have also not changed much in well over 100 years. And ever since the 1960's their stance on Social issues has become blatantly racist and intolerant. LOL. So if you want the Worst of Both Worlds, by all means vote for Republicans, which is also what someone who wants that should have been doing since 1960.
I am not all that interested in what stance political Parties take on Social issues. That's for suckers. Elected officials don't stop society from deciding what it wants in terms of Social issues and pushing for it until it gets what it wants, regardless how many Reagans and Trumps are elected vs Carters and Obamas. Therefore, to vote for crap economic results because the side that can only produce crap economic results is terrorizing you about caravans of immigrants coming to take your daughters and jobs or that the other side is going to force everyone to undergo transgender surgery is embarrassingly obviously a total con job meant to bamboozle suckers into voting for them and their predictably crap economic and national security results.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083717]-Majid Rafizadeh: "One of the most effective methods Israel used to weaken Hezbollah and Hamas was the systematic targeting and removal of leadership. Trump started to use the same tactic, then stopped. Reapplying it would deliver a helpful message that the regime cannot continue on its current path.
If the US is concerned that then there might not be anyone with whom to make a "deal," the US should not be looking for a deal. A "deal" will not be honored by Iran, anyway. The US should be looking for unconditional surrender.
Iran's rulers, who have murdered an estimated 100,000 of their own citizens, clearly could not care less if a million oil tankers are hit or if "ordinary Iranians" cannot buy food or fuel. Whatever happened to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's threat to reclaim for the people of Iran their leaders' secret bank accounts in the British Virgin Islands and $100 million villas?
The United Arab Emirates, after Iran targeted its territory with missiles and drones, once again highlighted the decisive, farsighted leadership of President Mohamed bin Zayed al Nahyan to cut trade and financial relations with Iran. Severing relations with Iran's regime should become the standard.
It would be a blessing to eliminate this Islamist regime and as soon as we can. It has spread terrorism, anti-Americanism, antisemitism and the sickening repression of a great people for nearly five decades. The opportunity is here. Let us get it done."
Dr. Majid Rafizadeh is a political scientist, Harvard-educated analyst, and board member of Harvard International Review. He has authored several books on the US foreign policy.[/QUOTE]A bunch of propaganda. Did the USA honor the MOU? Who started the war??
[QUOTE=Confiable;3083778]Who started the war??[/QUOTE]The Ayatollah started the war 47 years ago when he came to power and he authorized the storming of the US Embassy in Teheran on November 4, 1979. Iranian militants kept 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days. Since then, Iran or Iran-backed groups have killed 1,200+ Americans and countless numbers of middle eastern people including their own.
The long-term goal of these religious fanatics to conquer: 1st the region and then 2nd Western Civilization which, don't shrug this off, is straight out of Mohamed's play book. Thus, Iran in possession of nuclear weapons is an existential threat to the region, to Europe and to the USA which has been acknowledged by every American President since Reagan and all the national leaders of every Middle Eastern country not just Israel.
"The central concern among defense analysts is not simply that Iran would acquire a nuclear weapon, but that the entity most likely to exercise control over such a weapon the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps operates with an ideological framework that complicates traditional deterrence models. The IRGC was established in 1979 specifically to protect the Islamic Revolution and its theocratic principles, giving it a dual mandate: conventional military defense and ideological preservation. Unlike professional military establishments in most nations, the IRGC's upper command has demonstrated a willingness to absorb enormous costs including international sanctions that have devastated the Iranian economy in pursuit of strategic and theological objectives. This raises a foundational question that nuclear strategists have debated for decades: does a leadership structure motivated significantly by religious eschatology respond to the same rational-actor deterrence calculus that governed USA -Soviet nuclear standoffs?
Analysts modeling a nuclear Iran typically outline several distinct scenarios:
The 1st is the "existential umbrella" scenario, in which Iran uses nuclear weapons primarily as a deterrent shielding its conventional military operations and proxy activities behind the implicit threat of nuclear retaliation, much as North Korea has done since its first nuclear test in 2006. Under this model, a nuclear Iran would not necessarily use a weapon directly, but would dramatically embolden its support for Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and militia groups in Iraq and Syria, knowing that adversaries would be reluctant to retaliate forcefully against a nuclear-armed state.
The 2nd scenario involves nuclear transfer: the deliberate or inadvertent proliferation of weapons-grade material or technology to non-state actors aligned with Iran. This is considered by many Western intelligence agencies to be among the gravest risks, as Hezbollah in particular has demonstrated both the organizational capacity and the willingness to conduct mass-casualty attacks. (Think 911 on steroids).
A 3rd scenario, considered less probable but not negligible by strategists, involves direct nuclear use in a moment of perceived existential crisis, for example, if Iran believed it faced imminent regime collapse or a devastating military strike on its territory."
Believe what you want. What I have outlined is reality. This insane, totalitarian, theocracy that just mowed down 47,000 of its own people in the streets of Teheran must be defeated and overthrown if there is to be any peace in the region and the world. They are a threat to us all.
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3083757]You could also have quoted the son of the last king of Iran. This rafikzadeh is the same kind who fled his country to live a lavish life in USA. Of course he is respected by the leaders of the US terrorist army as he is playing their propaganda. These people were orgasming at the sight of seeing their former country being bombed by terrorists willing to give it the same fate than the late great republic of Syria.[/QUOTE]By using your crude language you surely seem to get more than one orgasm from watching the Iranian regime murder their own people.
It's shameful to see how some individuals rather support the genocidal Iranian dictatorship than the civilized democracies and Iranian people trying to stand up against the Iranian dictatorship.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083682]The USA Is more precisely described as a constitutional federal republic. This means:
Constitutional: Government power is limited by the Constitution, which protects individual rights regardless of majority rule.
Federal: Power is divided between the national government and the 50 state governments.
Republic: Supreme power is vested in the people, who exercise it through elected officials.
The distinction between "democracy" and "republic" is often misunderstood. In modern political science, these terms are not mutually exclusive; the USA Combines democratic principles (majority rule and citizen participation) with republican institutions (elected representatives and constitutional limits on power). While the word "democracy" does not appear in the Constitution, the Framers (all white landholders and some that owned slaves) and early leaders like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams used the term to describe the representative system they created.[/QUOTE]A Republic can be a democracy or a dictatorship. Republic and democracy aren't two mutually exclusive terms.
USA is far from being the only Republic in the world.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083683]What crime stats are you referring to?
Would those be the number of white police officers that kill minorities and receive no penalty for doing so?
Federal immigration agents (ICE) have killed at least five USA Citizens during the second administration of the current Article 2 leader, with at least 11 total fatalities (including non-citizens) from shootings by ICE and CBP agents since January 2025.[/QUOTE]It's fascinating how you refuse to accept reality for what it is.
I'm talking about white people getting brutally murdered by Afro-Americans. Just ask the poor Ukrainian lady that thought she was safe on the bus.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3083773]Amazingly, the Republican Party's historically godawful economic philosophy and methods and consequently horrific economic results have also not changed much in well over 100 years.
[/QUOTE]In plain language.
Reagan's presidency (19811989) featured a volatile start followed by a sustained economic boom, marked by real GDP growth averaging 3.23.6% annually, a drop in inflation from 13% to under 4%, and unemployment falling from a peak of 11% in 1982 to 5.3% by 1989.
[URL]https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa261.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3083773]I am not all that interested in what stance political Parties take on Social issues. That's for suckers. Elected officials don't stop society from deciding what it wants in terms of Social issues and pushing for it until it gets what it wants [/QUOTE]If it was up to the Democrats I would still be 3/5 of a person. So I am not buying that social issues don't matter. You cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you have no boots because you are not allowed to buy any. Racism in the Dis United States of America is real. Democrats have not done a thing about it.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL]
[B]But lets clear one thing up, I vote with my feet and my money. And you do too. [/B]
You don't live in the Dis United States of America. Care to share the reason for that? Care to let us know why while wearing your cheerleading skirt and waving your Democratic pom poms for them in the Dis United States of America you think social issues do not matter?
Inquiring minds want to know. I want to know!
In plain language (The Remix).
[QUOTE]According to Wikipedia,*9*unarmed African Americans were killed by law enforcement in 2026, including Marcus Burks, Jaque Rabon, and Samuel Brown.[/QUOTE]There is no greater depravation of your constitutional rights than when police kill those who look like me and they were unarmed.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083805]It's fascinating how you refuse to accept reality for what it is.[/QUOTE]What reality am I failing to understand and accept?
Are you one of those people that deny racism exists in the Dis United States of America?
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL]
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/jim-crow-and-black-economic-progress-after-slavery[/URL]
[URL]https://hoover-s3-website.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2023-05/LRP%20WP%2023005.pdf[/URL]
I have no problem with individuals who chose self delusion over reality. I have a BIG problem with individuals who wish to spread their delusional ideas and mislead others.
[B]Elite Influence:[/B] Studies by Princeton and Northwestern universities indicate that USA Policy outcomes strongly correlate with the preferences of*[U]economic elites[/U]*and business interests, while having near-zero correlation with the preferences of the average citizen.
[B]Campaign Finance:[/B] There is disproportionate power of wealthy donors and corporations, exacerbated by rulings like Citizens United, which allow unlimited independent political expenditures. A corporation is consider a person. And political contributions are consider speech. If you are able to give large amounts of money to political campaigns, what you have to say is paid more attention to than someone like me who is poor.
[B]Historical Context:[/B] The USA Was founded as a [U]plutocracy[/U] given that early voting rights were restricted to land-owning white men (some who owned slaves), and contemporary critics describe it as a system "of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%.
That's 100 percent true of my experiences inside of the Dis United States of America. The founders defined me (and everyone who looked like me) as 3/5 of a person.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083861]In plain language (The Remix).
There is no greater depravation of your constitutional rights than when police kill those who look like me and they were unarmed.
What reality am I failing to understand and accept?
Are you one of those people that deny racism exists in the Dis United States of America?
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL]
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/jim-crow-and-black-economic-progress-after-slavery[/URL]
[URL]https://hoover-s3-website.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2023-05/LRP%20WP%2023005.pdf[/URL]
I have no problem with individuals who chose self delusion over reality. I have a BIG problem with individuals who wish to spread their delusional ideas and mislead others.[/QUOTE]Of course there is racism in the US!
I know that plenty of Asian Americans, Jewish Americans and Latin Americans have faced racism from Afro Americans. So of course racism exists, I just happen to be of the opinion that it's a lot worse to commit the extremely serious and violent crimes that is being committed to a disproportionate degree by a certain group of people that you want to paint out to be "victims".
You can't pick and choose what you want acknowledge and what you want to turn a blind eye to.
People like you sure make me appreciate President Donald J Trump and Pete Hegseth!
Two great Americans that values quality over DEI and victim mentality.
[QUOTE=Confiable;3083778]A bunch of propaganda. Did the USA honor the MOU? Who started the war??[/QUOTE]Iran started the war in 1979.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083771][b]Thailand is introducing SMRs in order to move past chaos in the middle east [/b]
Remember when we had the discussion about SMR in the Dominican Republic? Well Thailand just announce today that they are going to pursue them. Target for commercial operation is 2037.
[URL]https://solarquarter.com/2026/08/26/thailand-plans-9-gw-of-small-modular-reactor-capacity-by-2050/[/URL] [/QUOTE]Yeah, how can I forget, the convo about SMRs in the DR and energy related strategies for the island, was epic!
We should do a follow up discussion or an update, as to what are your current ideas, on what the DR should do for energy? Still think [I]nuclear/SMRs[/I] are the solution for DR?
As for Thailand pursing 9 GW of SMRs, by 2050, I think it's admirable, but in the giant scheme of things and the reliability, scalability and speed of installation of SWB renewables, I think they'll have by 2050, it will dwarf any 9 GW SMR aspirations they have by 2050. Nonetheless, if SMR proves scalable in 2050, the tech will be a good addition to their clean energy mix.
In the same article I did like the reference to the fact, [B]Thailand To Launch Subsidised Rooftop Solar Programme For 1 Million Households",[/B] [URL]https://solarquarter.com/2026/09/11/thailand-to-launch-subsidised-rooftop-solar-programme-for-1-million-households/[/URL], 11th September 2026. Personally, I think these type of programs will do far more for the Thai people, by 2037 or 2050, much like rooftop solar has done for Pakistan and Australia.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083771]Spidy, please come back. We need more intelligent input into this thread. I am holding it down by myself right now.[/QUOTE]LOL! Hey, SubCmdr, just happened to be taking a little hiatus, (something I picked up from you back-in-the-day), but I think you and EihTooms, are doing at great job holding downing the fort. This is just the latest wave of MAGA crazed ideological zealots that don't know any better than what their MAGA Fuhrer, suckers them into believing.
MAGA zealots, come and go! It too shall pass!
For the MAGA fossil fuel "drill-baby-drill", renewable naysayers, the [I]"...but, but, but, solar and wind are INTERMITTENT..."[/I] and the China is not a electrostate, denier crowd, take note and pay attention, as solar, wind and batteries (SWB), projected new low LCOE of $33/ MWh (per megawatt-hour).
The economics of clean renewable energy, solar, wind and batteries (SWB), is once again smashing anything the best fossil fuels (gas CCGT, coal-fired plants, petroleum oil / diesel) generators or nuclear power plants, can muster today at between $77 and $110+ / MWh.
IRENA. The Rise of around-the-clock-renewable power, May 10,2026 [URL]https://www.irena.org/-/media/Files/IRENA/Agency/Publication/2026/May/IRENA_TEC_24-7_renewables_2026.pdf[/URL], shows SWB LCOE for China (33 MWh), Brazil (41 MWh), India (47 MWh) and Australia (50 MWh), with a firm LCOE trajectory for solar PV and BESS projected at 95% reliability 2020-2035, all much lower than the current Trumpland USA ($59 MWh).
And for the MAGA fossil fuel "drill-baby-drill" and naysayers, I know, I know you're going to say, [B][i]"...but, but, but, solar and wind are INTERMITTENT!"[/i][/B], but perhaps slow down your MAGA horses and crazed ideology, and take a good look at the economics of firm solar and wind?
Left Wing New York Times "Report Exposes Power Struggle at Top of the Regime".
"A fierce power struggle is gripping the top of Iran's regime, with hardline security figures pushing to escalate the conflict with the United States as questions mount over who is actually wielding authority in the absence of the country's unseen Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei.
A sweeping New York Times report published Sunday details how those divisions erupted into open conflict after a hardline faction allegedly launched attacks on three commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz in July without the knowledge of President Masoud Pezeshkian, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commander Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, or Iran's Supreme National Security Council — helping derail a USA -Iran agreement reached just weeks earlier.
The episode reportedly set off shouting matches, threats of resignation, and accusations of betrayal and treason within Tehran's leadership, while exposing a more fundamental problem: Pezeshkian has questioned whether communications attributed to Khamenei — who has not appeared publicly since being badly wounded in the opening USA -Israeli strikes in February — are even authentic.
The turmoil began after Iranian forces attacked three commercial vessels in the Strait overnight July 6-7, including a Qatari liquefied natural gas tanker, while Pezeshkian was in neighboring Iraq attending mourning ceremonies for Khamenei's father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who was killed in the opening strikes of the conflict on February 28.
An enraged Pezeshkian called Vahidi and demanded answers, according to five Iranian officials and two members of the IRGC cited in the report. Vahidi reportedly told the president that he had neither authorized the attack nor known about it beforehand, while the Supreme National Security Council was also unaware of the operation.
The United States responded with strikes the following morning, and fighting resumed, effectively ending the June memorandum of understanding that had offered a pathway toward ending hostilities.
The resulting turmoil reportedly produced some of the fiercest infighting within Iran's leadership since the conflict began, with two senior generals threatening to resign as rival factions traded accusations of betrayal and treason. The fallout also contributed to an overhaul of the Supreme National Security Council and the appointment of veteran politician and former IRGC commander Gen. Mohsen Rezaei to lead the body, in part because he was viewed as capable of mediating between the competing factions.
Investigations by Iran's government and security forces subsequently traced the decision to attack the vessels to Hossein Taeb, an influential hardliner and longtime intelligence figure who had opposed the agreement with Washington from the outset, according to three Iranian officials cited in the report.
"The attack on the ships was orchestrated with the goal to blow up the memorandum of understanding with Trump and to kill the prospects of any future negotiations and deal," Alireza Namvar Haghighi, an Iranian analyst with contacts inside the regime, told the outlet.
Taeb, who spent more than two decades in senior intelligence positions and previously headed the IRGC's intelligence organization, had reportedly argued to Khamenei that Iran made a mistake by ending the fighting and agreeing to the deal.
"Negotiations that ignore the rights of our people and concede to the excessive demands of the enemy have no place in Iran's politics," Taeb recently told a gathering of military families.
Taeb's role is particularly significant because of his relationship with Khamenei. After being removed as IRGC intelligence chief by Ali Khamenei in 2022 following a series of security failures, Taeb returned to prominence after the elder Khamenei's death and reportedly played a central role in securing Mojtaba's elevation as his successor.
Khamenei subsequently appointed Taeb to command the Basij, the regime's paramilitary force used to suppress domestic unrest, directing the veteran intelligence chief to strengthen its grassroots intelligence network as Tehran confronts mounting concern that the country's deteriorating economy could fuel renewed protests.
Yet when Pezeshkian sought to determine who had actually authorized the July attacks, generals privately told him that Khamenei had approved them.
Pezeshkian reportedly demanded proof.
The confrontation strikes at the heart of the uncertainty surrounding Khamenei, who was wounded in the February 28 strikes that killed his father and much of Iran's senior leadership and has not made an authenticated public appearance or released audio or video since becoming supreme leader.
His absence has become increasingly conspicuous. Khamenei did not attend his father's elaborate funeral in July even as three of his brothers appeared publicly, and Pezeshkian acknowledged in August that communicating with the supreme leader was "very difficult. ".
President Donald Trump later said he believed Khamenei was alive but had been "very seriously wounded," describing extensive injuries to the left side of his body.
"I don't think he's dead. He was very seriously wounded. The left side of his body, the arm, the leg, the whole thing," Trump said in an August interview with Glenn Beck.
The recent report goes further, revealing that Iranian officials, including Pezeshkian, have questioned the authenticity of written statements and other communications attributed to Khamenei.
Questions also surround whether the president has actually communicated directly with the supreme leader.
Pezeshkian said in May that he had met with Khamenei, but two Iranian officials and a former senior official described an extraordinary encounter in which the president was transported in an ambulance with tinted windows and connected by secure video to a man who identified himself as an intermediary and purported to relay messages between the two leaders.
Pezeshkian later told an ally that he was uncertain whether he had actually communicated with Khamenei, according to the report.
Last month, Pezeshkian claimed he received permission for another meeting with Khamenei that lasted roughly seven hours, during which they discussed sanctions, unemployment, the cost of living, national unity, and other issues facing Iran. He offered no details about the circumstances of the purported meeting or what Khamenei told him.
The uncertainty over who is exercising Khamenei's authority comes as rival factions inside Tehran battle over whether to seek an agreement with Washington or dramatically escalate the conflict in hopes of forcing the United States to end its naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.
Hardline commanders have pushed a plan to attack American targets, damage USA Navy vessels, inflict American casualties, and drive up global oil prices, according to the investigation. The strategy would also call on Iran-aligned groups in Yemen and Iraq to intensify attacks, including against oil infrastructure across the region, in an effort to increase the military and economic costs of the conflict.
Pezeshkian and Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf have warned that such a course could drag Iran into an "abyss," risking further USA Strikes while worsening the economic conditions already confronting the regime.
Pezeshkian has publicly acknowledged the need for an exit, arguing that "war has to end at some point" and that it would be better to end the conflict "today, while we are in a position of strength and dignity."
Ghalibaf has issued an even starker warning about Iran's ability to sustain the confrontation.
"No matter how much military power we have, if people are hungry and we do not have financial circulation and economic growth, we will not endure," he said.
Trump, meanwhile, said Sunday that Iran "wants to make a deal so bad" and claimed Iranian officials are "calling constantly," while insisting he would agree only to terms acceptable to Washington.
"They've got to make the right deal," Trump said. "I'm not going to make a deal that's no good."
For now, however, the hardline faction advocating greater confrontation appears to have gained the upper hand, according to the report.
"The war between Iran and the United States has entered the phase of escalation," Mahdi Mohammadi, a senior adviser to Ghalibaf, said."
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3083848]In plain language.
Reagan's presidency (19811989) featured a volatile start followed by a sustained economic boom, marked by real GDP growth averaging 3.23.6% annually, a drop in inflation from 13% to under 4%, and unemployment falling from a peak of 11% in 1982 to 5.3% by 1989.
[URL]https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa261.pdf[/URL]
If it was up to the Democrats I would still be 3/5 of a person. So I am not buying that social issues don't matter. You cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you have no boots because you are not allowed to buy any. Racism in the Dis United States of America is real. Democrats have not done a thing about it.
[URL]https://www.hoover.org/research/long-shadows-slavery-and-jim-crow-uncovering-economic-impact-black-americans[/URL]
[B]But lets clear one thing up, I vote with my feet and my money. And you do too. [/B]
You don't live in the Dis United States of America. Care to share the reason for that? Care to let us know why while wearing your cheerleading skirt and waving your Democratic pom poms for them in the Dis United States of America you think social issues do not matter?
Inquiring minds want to know. I want to know![/QUOTE]The rate of inflation was already steadily declining for almost a year before Reagan took office thanks to the Carter-appointed Fed Chair Paul Volcker's funds rate decisions beginning in 1979. Same with the unemployment rate. Reagan had nothing to do with it. However, Reagan's Repub Supply-Side / Trickle-Down and Reaganomics policies that were fast-tracked into the economy in his first year did produce a return to upticks in inflation and a reversal of the steadily declining unemployment rate he inherited from Carter. That continued well into his first year in office to the point that it climbed to more than 10% in his SECOND year in office and spanned over the 10 consecutive months into his THIRD year in office.
I guess that is the "volatile" beginning they were talking about. His policies and stewardship produced what was then the worst economic downturn since the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's. He did not inherit even a mild recession from Carter. But he sure did create a Great Recession on his own. He inherited better economic conditions and trajectories from Carter than any incoming Dem has ever inherited from an outgoing Repub.
Ultimately, Reagan tripled the national debt and for the first time converted USA from the world's greatest lender nation to the world's greatest borrower nation. And what did the American working men and women get in exchange for that? No more jobs created in his 8 years with all that deficit spending than Carter's economy created in just 4 years without any extraordinary spending.
[URL]https://www.multpl.com/inflation/table/by-month[/URL]
[URL]https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000[/URL]
Not sure why you or any black person would hold up Reagan as some kind of model for anything, least of all doing anything significantly positive for ordinary Americans.
I'm assuming you have no idea that Reagan kicked off his first presidential campaign in 1980 in Philadelphia, Mississippi or what message he was sending to White Supremists by doing that.
I'll give you a hint: Reagan and his Repub Party were sending a clear message to the voters whose mentality and agenda were exactly in line with preventing a black person's vote from counting at all, much less 3/5 of one, that he and his Repub Party are their guys now. Same result Trump and his Repub Party are trying to effect this very day.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083799]Believe what you want. What I have outlined is reality. This insane, totalitarian, theocracy that just mowed down 47,000 of its own people in the streets of Teheran must be defeated and overthrown if there is to be any peace in the region and the world. They are a threat to us all.[/QUOTE]Sadly USA is the only country on earth to have used the atomic bomb on a civilian population and has already killed millions of people across the middle east since the last twenty years. The US backed Israeli terrorist regime stole their nuclear weapons from western countries and are not even a signatory to the treaty of non proliferation which The Islamic Republic of Iran is. Not to mention that the US backed Israeli terrorist regime is currently cleansing the Gaza Strip of their whole population, killing as much as more than 650000 civilians so far, around half of them being children. The US backed Israeli terrorist regime is not even trying to hide their goal, it is openly stated by members of their terrorist regime, as per mr smotrich or ben gvir.
Before quoting and repeating the dumbest propaganda you've found on the internet, you should realize that USA and its proxy terrorist allies in the middle east are the real threat to the civilian population of all these countries and your post just reminds us of the preferred strategy used by the US backed terrorist Israeli regime, crying in pain while they constantly bomb every neighboring countries (especially weddings and schools full of children, the us terrorist army and its proxies love to send their powerful bombs on these defenseless people).
[QUOTE=AssAddict;3083986]Sadly USA is the only country on earth to have used the atomic bomb on a civilian population and has already killed millions of people across the middle east since the last twenty years. The US backed Israeli terrorist regime stole their nuclear weapons from western countries and are not even a signatory to the treaty of non proliferation which The Islamic Republic of Iran is. Not to mention that the US backed Israeli terrorist regime is currently cleansing the Gaza Strip of their whole population, killing as much as more than 650000 civilians so far, around half of them being children. The US backed Israeli terrorist regime is not even trying to hide their goal, it is openly stated by members of their terrorist regime, as per mr smotrich or ben gvir.
Before quoting and repeating the dumbest propaganda you've found on the internet, you should realize that USA and its proxy terrorist allies in the middle east are the real threat to the civilian population of all these countries and your post just reminds us of the preferred strategy used by the US backed terrorist Israeli regime, crying in pain while they constantly bomb every neighboring countries (especially weddings and schools full of children, the us terrorist army and its proxies love to send their powerful bombs on these defenseless people).[/QUOTE]Hahaha, don't you ever think before you speak? It's becoming absurd to see your propaganda, not even close to 650'000 people have died in Gaza. Why would you tell such a blatant lie? Israel has done a great job eradicating terrorists and their terrorist infrastructure in Gaza and southern Lebanon. Israel has been so effective killing terrorists that Hamas won't even report the number of members "martyred" by Israel.
You don't want to mention how Christians in southern Lebanon are harassed and targeted by the terrorist in hezbollah. You don't want to mention the genocide the Iranian terrorist regime has committed against the civilian Iranian people. Not even girls showing their hair are allowed to live when the Iranian terrorist regime starts their genocide against the Iranian people.
I support Israel to 110 percent, we all know that Iran and turkey are trying to control the entire Middle East and parts of Europe.
Just ask Greece, Armenia, Cyprus and the Kurds, Alawites, Druizes, and Christians suffering in Syria under the ISIS regime controlled by turkey and Erdogan.
Or ask Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and Yemen getting attacked and invaded by Iran and their proxies. Or ask the Lebanese President that declared the Iranian ambassador persona non grata.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083898]Of course there is racism in the US!
I know that plenty of Asian Americans, Jewish Americans and Latin Americans have faced racism from Afro Americans. So of course racism exists, I just happen to be of the opinion that it's a lot worse to commit the extremely serious and violent crimes that is being committed to a disproportionate degree by a certain group of people that you want to paint out to be "victims".
You can't pick and choose what you want acknowledge and what you want to turn a blind eye to.
People like you sure make me appreciate President Donald J Trump and Pete Hegseth!
Two great Americans that values quality over DEI and victim mentality.[/QUOTE]Exactly true. Racism is rampant among the democrats. Especially against the Jewish people. But then again democrats have always been racist towards the black communities.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3083799]The Ayatollah started the war 47 years ago when he came to power and he authorized the storming of the US Embassy in Teheran on November 4, 1979. Iranian militants kept 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days. Since then, Iran or Iran-backed groups have killed 1,200+ Americans and countless numbers of middle eastern people including their own.
The long-term goal of these religious fanatics to conquer: 1st the region and then 2nd Western Civilization which, don't shrug this off, is straight out of Mohamed's play book. Thus, Iran in possession of nuclear weapons is an existential threat to the region, to Europe and to the USA which has been acknowledged by every American President since Reagan and all the national leaders of every Middle Eastern country not just Israel.
"The central concern among defense analysts is not simply that Iran would acquire a nuclear weapon, but that the entity most likely to exercise control over such a weapon the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps operates with an ideological framework that complicates traditional deterrence models. The IRGC was established in 1979 specifically to protect the Islamic Revolution and its theocratic principles, giving it a dual mandate: conventional military defense and ideological preservation. Unlike professional military establishments in most nations, the IRGC's upper command has demonstrated a willingness to absorb enormous costs including international sanctions that have devastated the Iranian economy in pursuit of strategic and theological objectives..[/QUOTE]Your post is the truth. But the anti Trump losers here want to blame Trump for the war rather than him saving the world from Iran nuclear and terrorism ambitions. It is amazing that in life there are winners and losers. The winners find a way to benefit regardless of which party is in power. The losers don't benefit financially and are limited to whining and complaining about every great thing the opposition party does. They lie and blame their failures on Trump or the republicans. Losers have only one person to blame: themselves.
And they can never accept that fact.
[QUOTE=Canada;3084023]Your post is the truth. But the anti Trump losers here want to blame Trump for the war rather than him saving the world from Iran nuclear and terrorism ambitions. It is amazing that in life there are winners and losers. The winners find a way to benefit regardless of which party is in power. The losers don't benefit financially and are limited to whining and complaining about every great thing the opposition party does. They lie and blame their failures on Trump or the republicans. Losers have only one person to blame: themselves.
And they can never accept that fact.[/QUOTE]It's ironic to have a Canadian Trump nut hugger on here. Anyone with any sense knows that Canada is not our enemy. Anyone who knows history or happened to be around when the Iranians seized the American embassy inTehran. Circa 1979.
It was the Canadians who were risked their lives and were the masterminds behind allowing 6 potential hostages escaping. We also learned that supporters of Reagan were working hand in glove with terrorists to ruin President Jimmy Carter's re-election campaign.
Talking about hypocrisy!
[QUOTE=Canada;3084015]Exactly true. Racism is rampant among the democrats. Especially against the Jewish people. But then again democrats have always been racist towards the black communities.[/QUOTE]Yes, the Dems are racists and always have been. But you have to hand it to them, from abortion to welfare, to lower expectations, to open borders, nothing has harmed black Americans more than Democrat Party governance. They are the party of slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, and their latest and perhaps their greatest injury to blacks; LBJ's great society and yet some how they have convinced blacks to vote Democratic for the last 70 years. You got to hand it to these magicians and mind benders: they really know how to manipulate their audience.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reels/Da8XNeypVGk/[/URL]
The phrase "Neither party is mine" is a political quote by Chuck the of the hip-hop group*Public Enemy, expressing dissatisfaction with both major US political parties (the Democrats and Republicans).
The full sentiment, often cited as "Neither party is mine, not the donkey (actual word redacted by the site) or the elephant," uses the donkey and elephant as symbols for the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively, to signify that the speaker aligns with neither.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3083943]Not sure why you or any black person would hold up Reagan as some kind of model for anything, least of all doing anything significantly positive for ordinary Americans. I'm assuming you have no idea that Reagan kicked off his first presidential campaign in 1980 in Philadelphia, Mississippi or what message he was sending to White Supremists by doing that. I'll give you a hint: Reagan and his Repub Party were sending a clear message to the voters whose mentality and agenda were exactly in line with preventing a black person's vote from counting at all, much less 3/5 of one, that he and his Repub Party are their guys now. Same result Trump and his Repub Party are trying to effect this very day.[/QUOTE][U]Horace Cooper[/U], in his book [I]Put YAll Back in Chains[/I], claims Biden's "woke policies," inflation, and green agenda initiatives devastated Black entrepreneurship, wealth creation, and employment, especially for working-class Black men. Republican officials and polls cited in GOP research assert that Black Americans faced higher prices, lower real wages, and a 34-point drop in Biden's approval among Black voters due to "Bidenflation" and soft-on-crime stances. Additionally, Biden's past support for the 1994 Crime Control Act and opposition to school busing in the 1970's are frequently cited by civil rights commentators as foundational harms that contributed to mass incarceration and educational segregation, which critics argue he failed to adequately rectify during his presidency.
[B]Neither Party is Mine![/B]
[QUOTE=Canada;3084015]Exactly true. Racism is rampant among the democrats. Especially against the Jewish people. But then again democrats have always been racist towards the black communities.[/QUOTE]Republicans, Trump, Musk are not racist? And why almost all famous US artists boycott Trump? When they are rich. This will fuck Kennedy center, boycotted because of Trump. Despite his corruption, he seems to worry a bit about mid terms, doesnt he? When more than 60% disagree with his politics, big majority in a real democracy.
[QUOTE=Canada;3084023]Your post is the truth. But the anti Trump losers here want to blame Trump for the war rather than him saving the world from Iran nuclear and terrorism ambitions. It is amazing that in life there are winners and losers. The winners find a way to benefit regardless of which party is in power. The losers don't benefit financially and are limited to whining and complaining about every great thing the opposition party does. They lie and blame their failures on Trump or the republicans. Losers have only one person to blame: themselves.
And they can never accept that fact.[/QUOTE]When you are a Trump blind fanatic, US CIA reported no risk at the moment about nuclear from Iran, but your gourou Trump made big inflation with consequences and only his fault from how he is a stupid and ignorant, what is leading USA for second time. Mollahs are still in Iran and are not afraid to die, but for Allah.
It all started with white people in the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083898]Of course there is racism in the US![/QUOTE]While the founders were uniformly white, their views on race and the nation's future were complex and often contradictory. Nearly half were slaveholders, and the new nation's legal framework initially restricted full citizenship and voting rights to white men.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3083898]I know that plenty of Asian Americans, Jewish Americans and Latin Americans have faced racism from Afro Americans. So of course racism exists[/QUOTE]Scholars and community leaders emphasize that these tensions are frequently exacerbated by [B]white supremacy[/B] and political narratives that divide people of color, rather than inherent hostility between these minority groups.
[QUOTE]White Alone: Approximately 61.6% of the U.S. population identified as White alone in the 2020 Census, though recent 2025 estimates place this figure at 72.3%[/QUOTE]So racism exists within the white community for the most part and there is also racism between the minorities. With anywhere from 61.6% - 72.3% of the population being white, which population do you think has more racists in them?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3083943]I'm assuming you have no idea that Reagan kicked off his first presidential campaign in 1980 in Philadelphia, Mississippi or what message he was sending to White Supremists by doing that.[/QUOTE]Bad assumption.
[QUOTE]George Wallace, the Governor of Alabama, delivered the famous phrase "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" in his inaugural address on January 14, 1963.
The speech, which was written by Ku Klux Klan member Asa Earl Carter, was delivered on the same portico of the Alabama State Capitol where Jefferson Davis was sworn in as president of the Confederacy. [/QUOTE][URL]https://mississippitoday.org/2025/01/14/1963-george-wallace-alabama/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2013/01/14/169080969/segregation-forever-a-fiery-pledge-forgiven-but-not-forgotten[/URL]
George Wallace was a Democrat.
It is in danger because Democrats in Senate will not vote for the bill. Don't tell me that Democrats have my interests in mind. I'm poor. I need crypto to survive the upcoming financial reset. You see from the posts from Democrats in this thread they are overly focused on race. My money has a color. It is not black or white. It is green.
The phrase "Neither party is mine" is a political quote by ChuckD the of the hip-hop group [B]Public Enemy[/B], expressing dissatisfaction with both major US political parties (the Democrats and Republicans).
The full sentiment, often cited as "Neither party is mine, not the donkey (actual word redacted by the site) or the elephant," uses the donkey and elephant as symbols for the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively, to signify that the speaker aligns with neither.
It is in danger because Democrats in Senate will not vote for the bill.
Don't tell me that Democrats have my interests in mind. I'm poor. I need crypto to survive the upcoming financial reset. You see the posts from Democrats in this thread they are overly focused on race. My money has a color. It is not black or white. It is green.
The Democrats will not vote for The Clarity Act because of ethics provisions. But the Republicans wrote the provisions exactly the way the Democrats requested them. Shows me that Democrats have no principles or character whatsoever.
[URL]https://news.bitcoin.com/regulation-and-legal/clarity-act-republican-senators-fail-white-house-ethics/[/URL]
The Democrats are being petty. Focused on their own political grudges and forgetting about the average citizen in the Dis United States of America. But that is typical for them.
[B]Neither party is mine not the donkey or the elephant![/B]
[URL]https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/26a124_hgci.pdf[/URL]
The Supreme Court comes through for regular people yet again!
[B]Neither party is mine not the donkey or the elephant![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084071]It all started with white people in the Dis United States of America.
While the founders were uniformly white, their views on race and the nation's future were complex and often contradictory. Nearly half were slaveholders, and the new nation's legal framework initially restricted full citizenship and voting rights to white men.
Scholars and community leaders emphasize that these tensions are frequently exacerbated by [B]white supremacy[/B] and political narratives that divide people of color, rather than inherent hostility between these minority groups.
So racism exists within the white community for the most part and there is also racism between the minorities. With anywhere from 61.6% - 72.3% of the population being white, which population do you think has more racists in them?.[/QUOTE]George Wallace was a Democrat in 1963. He ran for president as an Independent in 1968. He did so well in garnering the vote of anti-Black White Racists the Republican Party developed their Southern Strategy to play on that racism to win those Wallace voters. They succeeded.
Welcome to the 1960's flip. Racists in the South were pulled away from voting for Democrats due to their far, far superior economic policy results by Republican Party race-baiting tactics to make them hate blacks more than they like jobs creation and wage gains.
Suckers.
Republican Party Campaign Consultant and Strategist Lee Atwater was a revered giant in the Republican Party's Southern Strategy methods for making sure White Racists understood that Reagan, Bush1 and the Republican Party was their Party to vote for after White Racists were pissed off about the Democratic Party using their far, far superior economic policy results to empower them to also promote, fight for and pass the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Nothing does more harm to Americans, particularly minorities, than Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction. Lee Atwater and the Republican Party under "Philadelphia, Mississippi" Ronald Reagan and "Willie Horton" GHW Bush, other similar Repub Party Strategists under Bush2 and now most especially under and with Trump found a way to sell their total crap economic results to White Racists on their proven successful Southern Strategy along with new strategies involving mythical "woke-ism", transgender fears, DEI lies, "communism", etc.
It wasn't about which Party got the White Racist votes prior to the 1960's flip or after the 1960's flip. It's about the voters who want the White Racist agenda and which Party's candidates will deliver it for them. And since the 1960's it has been Republican Party candidates. It has been a great way for them to sell their policies that further enrich their millionaire, billionaire and now trillionaire donors at the expense of everyone else as long as they can convince suckers that Blacks, transgenders and "communists" are after their jobs, sons, daughters and freedom.
The Democrats gave a set back to The Clarity Act. Hurting me and 70 million of my fellow citizens in the process. No Democrats in the Senate voted for the cloture vote. Just one more example of the Democratic Party putting the petty personal differences ahead of the needs of ordinary citizens like myself.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/15/senate-cloture-vote-on-clarity-act-fails-dealing-regulatory-setback-to-crypto-industry.html[/URL]
[B]Neither Party is mine![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084097][URL]https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/26a124_hgci.pdf[/URL]
The Supreme Court comes through for regular people yet again!
[B]Neither party is mine not the donkey or the elephant![/B][/QUOTE]Led by Blue state California. I'm sure you saw the only state in your link specifically cited in the title of the lawsuit against democracy-hating Trump was "v California. ".
[B]Supreme Court rejects Trump mail ballot restrictions ahead of midterms[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/trump-mail-voting-executive-order-lawsuit-78a4fbeb48d9c5fd27d1c865529fc65f[/URL]
[QUOTE][b]State officials and voting rights groups pushed back[/b]
[B]Democratic[/b] state officials and voting rights groups challenged the restrictions in court, arguing that the president has no constitutional authority to set election rules that would virtually eliminate mail voting on the eve of a major election.[/QUOTE]Did you honestly think a gaggle of Repub Trump ass-lickers in Red states were going to lead the charge against the latest Repub attempt to shitcan a free and fair election and get this done? LOL.
Republicans' white supremacist problem is a threat to America.
[QUOTE]The Republicans road to perdition required mastery of coded racist policy language, such as welfare queen, forced busing and law and order, to lure disaffected white people out of the Democratic party and into the Republican party. The Southern Strategy was so ruthless in its lurch to the right that it actually neutralized the moderates and drove the majority of African Americans out of the party.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/05/republicans-white-supremacist-problem-is-a-threat-to-america[/URL]
[B]Neither party is mine![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084095]The phrase "Neither party is mine" is a political quote by ChuckD the of the hip-hop group [B]Public Enemy[/B], expressing dissatisfaction with both major US political parties (the Democrats and Republicans).
The full sentiment, often cited as "Neither party is mine, not the donkey (actual word redacted by the site) or the elephant," uses the donkey and elephant as symbols for the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively, to signify that the speaker aligns with neither.[/QUOTE]And Trump as Taco Nacho as tell Americans, and senile, stupid and ignorant for me as a European. Worst ever president of USA for our world. When I wish Israel will get rid of Netanyahou, get rid of your cheating golfer playing with your taxes on November, when we are so bored of his bullshits and USA are just shameful under him.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3084118]Welcome to the 1960's flip. Racists in the South were pulled away from voting for Democrats due to their far, far superior economic policy results by Republican Party race-baiting tactics to make them hate blacks more than they like jobs creation and wage gains.
Suckers.
...
Republican Party Campaign Consultant and Strategist Lee Atwater was a revered giant in the Republican Party's Southern Strategy methods for making sure White Racists understood that Reagan,
It wasn't about which Party got the White Racist votes prior to the 1960's flip or after the 1960's flip. It's about the voters who want the White Racist agenda and which Party's candidates will deliver it for them. And since the 1960's it has been Republican Party candidates. It has been a great way for them to sell their policies that further enrich their millionaire, billionaire and now trillionaire donors at the expense of everyone else as long as they can convince suckers that Blacks, transgenders and "communists" are after their jobs, sons, daughters and freedom.[/QUOTE]Spot On!
While the Democrat Party has never been perfect on their political race, gender, equality or crime policies or governing, historically they have championed these human rights, meaningfully, but again, it's not always going to be everyone's satisfaction. For the most part, they have always served hardworking American people and not the just the billionaire donor class.
The Republican Party, on the other had have only ever championed, their White Racist agenda, meant to keep Americans divided, taken away American rights and freedoms, and suckered their base into stupid culture-wars, strategically away from the real political issues of the day. While they sever their real slave masters and overlords, their billionaire buddies, always enriching themselves and picking the pockets, at the cost and lives of hardworking Americans.
As the MAGA claims Dems are racist, and yet no clear cut examples or evidence to prove it, allow me to show you just how racist, Republicans are:
[LIST][i]Republicans claim they're NOT racist, as they shutdown close to 100 polling stations in a key battleground district, in the predominately Black neighborhood in Forth Worth, Texas, ahead of the 2026 mid-Terms elections.[/i][/LIST]
So I guess, with SCOTUS denying the MAGA Fuhrer's illegal attempt to shutdown mail-in voting, [B][i]it's back to "good old fashion" Jim Crow,[/i][/B] election suppression tactics?
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084199]Spot On!
While the Democrat Party has never been perfect on their political race, gender, equality or crime policies or governing, historically they have championed these human rights, meaningfully, but again, it's not always going to be everyone's satisfaction. For the most part, they have always served hardworking American people and not the just the billionaire donor class.
The Republican Party, on the other had have only ever championed, their White Racist agenda, meant to keep Americans divided, taken away American rights and freedoms, and suckered their base into stupid culture-wars, strategically away from the real political issues of the day. While they sever their real slave masters and overlords, their billionaire buddies, always enriching themselves and picking the pockets, at the cost and lives of hardworking Americans.
As the MAGA claims Dems are racist, and yet no clear cut examples or evidence to prove it, allow me to show you just how racist, Republicans are:[/QUOTE]We all know that the Democrats are the racists. You don't want Caucasians to have equal rights. You're obsessed with Caucasians. It's sad to see.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084137]Republicans' white supremacist problem is a threat to America.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/05/republicans-white-supremacist-problem-is-a-threat-to-america[/URL]
[B]Neither party is mine![/B][/QUOTE]It's hilarious to see you quote a far left website as they care about facts.
[QUOTE][b]The Democratic Party Is the Most Racist Organization in America [/b]
The Democratic Party, once the champions of civil rights in response to real injustices, is now the primary driver of racial division in America today. Lee Atwater's Southern strategy pales in comparison to the modern DNC's approach. No organization is more systematically racist.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-party-most-racist-organization-america-opinion-1976128[/URL]
Neither party is mine!
Hey Spidy,
[QUOTE=Spidy;3083922]Yeah, how can I forget, the convo about SMRs in the DR and energy related strategies for the island, was epic![/QUOTE]No doubt my brother. The most civil and intelligent discussion I have had on ISG since I have been posting.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3083922]We should do a follow up discussion or an update, as to what are your current ideas, on what the DR should do for energy? [/QUOTE]Yes, let's do it!
[QUOTE=Spidy;3083922]Still think [I]nuclear/SMRs[/I] are the solution for DR? [/QUOTE]No, I have come around to your way of thinking. SWB is the way to go. Because of 3 things:
1. Length of time it takes to bring SMRs online.
2. SWB technology has developed and will continue to develop it may make SMR obsolete before they can ever come on line an produce power.
3. I am personally pursing that route for my business in the Dominican Republic.
Good to have you back Spidy!
Good point for association between Canada and EU, UK have also to join, versus crazy stupid Trump. USA are not king of the world, but less than 5% on our planet. 40% inflation for gasoline in USA because of Trump, even they have at home.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3073933][B]They will![/B] The Fed will raise interest rates three times before the year ends. Inflation is running at 4. 1% annually. The oil shock will take six months to flow through the economy. Food prices will be up 30% in the Dis United States of America, before the end of the year.
I'm on the record. On January 1, 2027, call me out if I'm wrong. I'll stand and take my grade.[/QUOTE]I received some push back.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]3rd, yeah with Trump's guy at the head of the FED [u]I see only one possible rate increase between now and the end of the year based on current data[/u]. [b]But if the Fed does decide to raise interest rates, it most likely will not happen until after the election unless there is hard new evidence of significant new inflation growth[/b].[/QUOTE]I predicted 3 interest rates hikes before the end of the year. One down! And it happened before the election. Two more to go. The jury is not in yet!
[QUOTE]The Federal Reserve unanimously raised its benchmark interest rate by 25 basis points on September 16, 2026, increasing the target range to 3.75%-4.00%[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074193]The most interesting fact of the last week was seeing oil prices decline and the stock market rally after the "truce" ended and the bombing of Iran resumed indicating the IRGC may be running out of cards to play and its ability to influence oil prices is waning. And this is very good news even for Trump haters even though they will never admit it.[/QUOTE]Oil Prices are currently over 100 USD a barrel.
Anyone checked the price of diesel lately?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084210]We all know that the Democrats are the racists. You don't want Caucasians to have equal rights. You're obsessed with Caucasians. It's sad to see.[/QUOTE]Well, the prototypical male voting Republican cares little about race and all about values. Are you a productive person or a victim? Are you helping your fellow man when you are capable of doing so or are you a leach? Are you obsessed with government because you want to see it serve the nation and the public or are you obsessed because you want more money from government?
The latest brouhaha that we have seen was the Lindsay Clancy case. Oh boy. A mother kills her three children and the feminists blamed everyone but her. It was the drugs; it was her medical providers (all women by the way); it was her husband's fault. Eight obviously activist Democratic jurors bullied the other jurors into trying to get her off on an insanity defense. There was one sole male juror who would not bend and the Democratic machine did all it could to have him tossed from the jury.
If you want to know who the racists are in society, you can watch this video and the anchor Gayle King. She loses it when she finds out the holdout juror is a black male. (Gasp!) [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySTuYw9ogFw[/URL]
"I have to sit with that for a second", she says. Gee, why Gayle? Is it because in your racist mind the holdout juror had to be an old white MAGA dude? If it makes you feel any better, Gayle, he admitted to being a Republican. You can defend being biased against men and Republicans but race not so much. You just showed the world that you and Democrats like you are the REAL racists.
So now we really know what it is to be a Democrat. The only ones responsible for anything are working men. A woman can literally kill her children and it is the fault of working men. It had to be the husband. Never mind that he made $400 k a year took off work to help more at the home, paid for a nanny, paid for a mansion, and paid for her to see all these health care providers. He was supposed to do more dammit!
And now we have women out claiming how hard it is to be a mother. You men just do not understand how hard it is. No, personally, I do and if today's women cannot handle the stress of being a mother, then I will take them at their word and say that they cannot handle doing other stressful jobs. It is not like a dumb animal can be a mom and raise their young. Oh wait.
The American woman and their Democratic simps have gotten to the point where feminism means a complete absence of any accountability. If you are an American man, you would be stupid to not get yourself a surrogate woman, a nanny, and a hooker abroad to have your fun.
With the average American woman, the only time an American man has any ownership with children is when it comes time to pay the bills. Outside of that, to the average American woman, men can fuck off.
Just remember. A woman admitted to killing her children, and American women wanted her to be not guilty and to blame her husband. Does anyone need to know anything else when it comes to how batshit crazy Democrats are?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084210]We all know that the Democrats are the racists. You don't want Caucasians to have equal rights. You're obsessed with Caucasians. It's sad to see.[/QUOTE]If you are a Democrat, you are perfectly okay with this, [URL]https://twitter.com/i/status/2099948154556985396[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spidy;3083924]The economics of clean renewable energy, solar, wind and batteries (SWB), is once again smashing anything the best fossil fuels (gas CCGT, coal-fired plants, petroleum oil / diesel) generators or nuclear power plants, can muster today at between $77 and $110+ / MWh.[/QUOTE]Your graph puts costs at $125 per mwh, but hey, a climate change nut is lying. What else is new?
From google, Current natural gas costs for electricity generation vary significantly by region and market structure. In the United States, wholesale electricity prices driven by natural gas in June 2026 ranged from $19.14/ MWh in New York City to $35.42/ MWh for Central Appalachian coal, with Henry Hub natural gas converting to approximately $25.19/ MWh. For new combined-cycle natural gas plants, the total levelized cost (including fuel, operations, and capital) typically ranges from $60 to $150 per MWh, with an average of $90/ MWh.
Because you have lived off government handouts your whole life, you do not understand the concept of investing. While you and the climate change nuts tried to say we were all going to be swallowed up by the ocean, those of who live in the real world have to make educated guesses about where pricing is going to be. When you invest and screw up, it costs millions and billions of dollars. When you and the climate change nuts screwed up your projections, you did the typical Democratic bullshit and said, "Never mind". So what if it cost the world trillions of dollars?
The point is that if you want to invest in energy, there is a futures market where you can lock in the price with oil and natural gas. Here is the price with oil futures: [URL]https://oilprice.com/futures/natural-gas/[/URL].
And one for natural gas [URL]https://oilprice.com/futures/natural-gas/.[/URL] So if you want to invest in a project, you can pay for the right to sell the oil and gas you are going to produce at a set price. Does your graph have any such assurance that solar and wind are going to cheaper or is that just more hopium bullshit from your so called experts?
And if you didn't notice, your solar and wind, even after the hopium bullshit, costs double the price to produce electricity from coal.
My RV has one Ecoflow power station with 4000 watts and two spare batteries also with 4000 watts for a total of 12,000 watts, and it has worked to run my AC unit all night. I can go 12 hours with night time AC and that has been a success. I no longer need a generator to stay cool at night.
By far, the fastest and easiest way to charge the power station is to plug it into a wall socket. I was stuck where I did not have one though. At first, I used the RV generator but that was financially costly so I bought a small generator about 50% bigger than the size of a toaster.
So now with two gallons of gas and in six to eight hours, I can charge the whole power station at a much cheaper cost than the RV generator.
And I thought solar was even cheaper. It's free right? No oil or gas costs right? The Ecoflow has two inputs and you can put in 2600 watts into the power station. It is set up perfectly for solar or so I thought. I was hoping that I could just plug in 2600 watts of solar and be home free.
I like this woman and her real world tests and she had one on solar panels here: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFOgZ1DE98[/URL].
So the first thing I learn is the rooftop solar panels are damned near worthless for my needs. The wattage is just paltry. The only panels that seem to be worth a damn are the ZoupWs, and they do 400 to 500 watts per hour but do you see how fucking big they are? To charge my station in five hours, I would need five or six of these huge panels, and I would need the space of a mid-sized back yard to put down these panels. That is $3000 to get "free" electricity.
And then there is all the issues with having these panels out like getting damaged, stolen, or the sun just does not shine. In comparison to the solar and the $3000 up front cost, the small generator was $400, and I can charge the whole station much more quickly with a whopping $6 in gasoline.
If I used the RV on a daily basis, and I do not, it would be years to get a return on the solar and that is assuming it is not damaged or stolen. Once again, the math for solar just does not work.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084215][URL]https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-party-most-racist-organization-america-opinion-1976128[/URL]
Neither party is mine![/QUOTE]SubCmdr, I thought you were a man of FACTS verses opinions? So if I missed the FACTS in that OPINION piece, let me know!
The opinion piece you shared is provocative, and has a juicy (albeit inaccurate) headline, and all but focuses on what could be seen as internal party racial squabbling and bickering, and less about [U]the real legislative FACTS, policies and political record,[/U] that still show Democrats are championing civil rights, women's rights, and LGBTQ rights, equal rights and racial injustice, rather than the infactual racist party, that the author suggests it has become.
The Democrat political record, policies and FACTs around which party has done more for civil, minority or equal rights, speaks for itself and is a stark asymmetrical historical pattern of trying to do and doing the right legislative thing, for minority groups, when compared to Republicans.
Despite the laughable misconceived notion of Democrat internal party racism, as a some planned, carried out mass party policy, that "pales in comparison" to the Lee Atwater's Southern strategy, is ludicrous. FACT: Dems have had "racist" temerity, put forth a NOT one, BUT two (2) Black candidates and two (2) women candidates for president. Repubs NOT one in either category (not that this is an indicator of being racist or sexist, but it sure is telling).
Don't forget, Lee Atwater's Southern strategy, was indeed a planned systemic, state-sanctioned political project designed to win and hold power by codifying racial hierarchy into law and policy, designed to inflict cultural conflicts, about holding White power, representation, and resource distribution.
Needless to say, the Democratic Party has been the primary architect of nearly every major piece of civil rights, women's rights, and LGBTQ rights legislation, while the modern Republican Party has, for decades, has been the primary source of opposition to those efforts.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084215][URL]https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-party-most-racist-organization-america-opinion-1976128[/URL]
Neither party is mine![/QUOTE]They elected a black man as president and a black woman as vice president. Let me know when Republicans will do the same.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]SubCmdr, I thought you were a man of FACTS verses opinions? So if I missed the FACTS in that OPINION piece, let me know![/QUOTE]Brother Spidy, for the most part I am a man of facts. Except in two areas.
When I am talking mess in the RANTS threads. In those threads it is is a free for all. I learned very quickly facts don't matter. What people want to do in those threads is to express their personal opinions and attack others (ad hominem). It is very informative to learn about myself from people who have not ever met me and many times have often not stepped foot in the country I am currently posted up again.
2. When posting in the American Politics thread. Exactly what are the facts that need to be referenced?
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]The opinion piece you shared is provocative, and has a juicy (albeit inaccurate) headline, and all but focuses on what could be seen as internal party racial squabbling and bickering, and less about [U]the real legislative FACTS, policies and political record,[/U] that still show Democrats are championing civil rights, women's rights, and LGBTQ rights, equal rights and racial injustice, rather than the infactual racist party, that the author suggests it has become.[/QUOTE][B]Neither party is mine not the donkey or the elephant[/B]
I was forced into taking on the racial records of both parties by individuals making claims about my political philosophy (from both sides) that were not true. This is not the NBA. There are no free shots.
I spent my senior year of university preparing to goto law school. There was a Residential Assistant that was a Law Student when I was in my last year of undergraduate studies. He taught me, how to analyze the law, look at the elements, how to think like an attorney and how to make a argument no matter what side you happened to be on.
Our day would finish for each of us and I would see he had his door open and I would stop by. We would be making small talk and he would say: [I]it can be argued that[/I]. That was the signal that the conversational issue we were discussing was going to be the subject of our next argument. It involved a presentation of the facts (that we knew at the time) then followed by the argument. It did not matter how we personally felt about the subject. We were responsible for making the argument of the side we were on. At the time, I thought it was wonderful opportunity to learn from him. What I realize now is that the learning process was mutual. He was learning and practicing his legal skills as I was learning.
Most people do not understand what it means to make a [I]legal argument[/I]. It is the only point in a trial where you are allowed to voice your opinion based on the facts that have been presented during the trial. That is how I approach discussions. I think you have seen and understand my methods better than most people. When it is done right it results in a informative exchange (like ours on SMRs). When done wrong people get their panties in a knot and butt hurt getting them untangled. They degenerate into ad hominem attacks and in general fail to make an argument because they confuse their own personal attacks with logic.
[U]Exhibit A[/U]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084211]It's hilarious to see you quote a far left website as they care about facts.[/QUOTE]This (compound profanity redacted) never provides any links to facts. Attacks others personally. He smugly thinks he is being witty. But what he is really doing making of personal display of how blind allegiance to the party line leads to illogical thinking.
[QUOTE]In a legal context, an [i]argument[/i] is the structured presentation of reasons, evidence, and logical inferences aimed at persuading a judge or jury to accept a particular viewpoint or reach a specific conclusion.
It encompasses both the process of making this persuasive presentation and the specific statements or written submissions (such as briefs or oral arguments) that analyze facts, apply legal principles, and refute opposing claims.
Key characteristics include:
[b]Persuasive Purpose[/b]: The primary goal is to convince the decision-maker that the party's contentions are correct by demonstrating why the law favors their position.
[b]Components[/b]: Effective arguments typically involve citing relevant statutes, case law, and precedents, and applying them logically to the specific facts of the case.
[b]Exclusions[/b]: In certain administrative or procedural definitions, "legal argument" may specifically exclude the presentation of new evidence, witness examination, or the literal interpretation of statutes, focusing instead on jurisdictional, constitutional, or precedent-based issues.[/QUOTE]This is what it means to make a argument.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]The Democrat political record, policies and FACTs around which party has done more for civil, minority or equal rights, speaks for itself and is a stark asymmetrical historical pattern of trying to do and doing the right legislative thing, for minority groups, when compared to Republicans.[/QUOTE][I]It can be argued that[/I] Republicans ending slavery is the mike drop moment when it all judgment about who has done more for civil, minority or equal rights for black people in the Dis United States of America is achieved and never to be matched again in history.
Under one political party I am free, in the other I am a slave. I am sorry Spidy, you cannot ignore the historical record. Historically, Black Americans were Republican voters from the Civil War through the early 20th century because the GOP was the "party of Lincoln" that fought slavery and supported Reconstruction. [B]Full Stop![/B].
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]Despite the laughable misconceived notion of Democrat internal party racism, as a some planned, carried out mass party policy, that "pales in comparison" to the Lee Atwater's Southern strategy, is ludicrous.[/QUOTE]Since neither party is mine, I will stipulate to your point. As I do not know or care about the internal politics inside of either party.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]FACT: Dems have had "racist" temerity, put forth a NOT one, BUT two (2) Black candidates and two (2) women candidates for president. Repubs NOT one in either category (not that this is an indicator of being racist or sexist, but it sure is telling).[/QUOTE][I]It can be argued that:[/I] you are overlooking the historical record.
I used AI to pull up some facts. The query was: [U]Black candidates who were Republicans running for federal office since the Civil War[/U].
[QUOTE]From the end of the Civil War through the 21st century, Black candidates have held federal office and run for the presidency, evolving from Reconstruction pioneers to major-party nominees.*
Reconstruction Era (1865-1877) Approximately 2,000 Black Americans held public office at local, state, and federal levels during Reconstruction.
Hiram Revels and Blanche K. Bruce became the first Black U.S. Senators from Mississippi, while others served in the U.S. House of Representatives, such as Joseph Rainey and Robert Smalls from South Carolina.
20th Century Presidential Candidates Frederick Douglass received a symbolic vote at the 1888 Republican National Convention, becoming the first African American presidential candidate. Alan Keyes emerged as the first Black Republican to run for president in 1996.[/QUOTE]You did not define the exact meaning of [I]put forth a NOT one, BUT two (2) Black candidates and two (2) women candidates for president [/I]. Votes decide through primaries who is going to be the candidates running for office. [I]It can be argued that[/I] all politics is local and that members of the House of Representatives and Senate who can serve unlimited terms have a greater impact on economic and social policy than the President of the United States of America who is limited to two terms.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]Dont forget, Lee Atwater's Southern strategy, was indeed a planned systemic, state-sanctioned political project designed to win and hold power by codifying racial hierarchy into law and policy, designed to inflict cultural conflicts, about holding White power, representation, and resource distribution.[/QUOTE]Memory strong my brother.
[QUOTE]The shift to the Democratic Party began in the 1930s with the New Deal and solidified in the 1960s when Democrats championed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act, while Republicans adopted the "Southern Strategy" to appeal to white voters. Today, 83- 89% of Black voters identify as Democratic or lean Democratic, making it the most racially unified voting bloc in the U.S.[/QUOTE]You close with:
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]Needless to say, the Democratic Party has been the primary architect of nearly every major piece of civil rights, women's rights, and LGBTQ rights legislation, [u]while the modern Republican Party[/u] has, for decades, has been the primary source of opposition to those efforts.[/QUOTE][I]It can be argued that[/I] Black voter support is not monolithic, and some Black voters, particularly younger men and those prioritizing [U]economic[/U] or social conservatism, have shown increasing openness to the Republican Party.
[B]Republicans:[/B] Emphasize individual responsibility, lower taxes, and traditional values; currently receive only 1014% of the Black vote but have seen modest gains in recent midterms.
Political scientists like Ismail White and Chryl Laird argue that Black Democratic loyalty is sustained by "racialized social constraint"a group norm where supporting Democrats is seen as essential for collective political power.
Ultimately, this voter evaluates which party's current platform best addresses their specific concerns regarding economic opportunity, criminal justice, and social equality. My evaluation reveals:
[B]Neither party is mine![/B]
Every single individual making posts that support democrats in this thread runs and hides when I point how the Democratic party opposes crypto ownership and in my opinion negatively effects a estimated 70 million of my fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America. On this particular issue, I favor Republicans universally. I am perfectly willing to ignore their [I]white hoodie wearing nature[/I] in order to get access to a financial tool that will set up my liked and loved ones for generational wealth.
[QUOTE]
[b]Democrats block cryptocurrency bill, demanding more limits on Trump's investments[/b]
Senate Democrats on Tuesday blocked legislation to create a new regulatory framework for cryptocurrency, stalling an industry-backed effort to place new guardrails around digital assets after demanding more limits on President Donald Trump's investments.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-senate-expected-to-vote-on-cryptocurrency-regulation[/URL]
Elizabeth Warren in March 2023 coined the phrase [I]building an anti-crypto army[/I]*to describe her political strategy of uniting progressives, conservatives, and regulators to restrict cryptocurrency usage in the USA.
[B]The Defense Rests![/B]
There is not a single reference to political parties electing anyone to public office at a federal level.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3084382]They elected a black man as president and a black woman as vice president. Let me know when Republicans will do the same.[/QUOTE]Democrats did not do that. USA Citizens who are at least 18 years old and meet their state's residency requirements are eligible to vote in federal elections.
Barack Obama received significant support from voters outside the Democratic Party in both of his presidential elections.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2008/11/05/inside-obamas-sweeping-victory/[/URL]
Please review how the political system works in the Dis United States of America. You have some huge gaps in your understanding of it.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084360]SubCmdr, I thought you were a man of FACTS verses opinions? So if I missed the FACTS in that OPINION piece, let me know!
The opinion piece you shared is provocative, and has a juicy (albeit inaccurate) headline, and all but focuses on what could be seen as internal party racial squabbling and bickering, and less about [U]the real legislative FACTS, policies and political record,[/U] that still show Democrats are championing civil rights, women's rights, and LGBTQ rights, equal rights and racial injustice, rather than the infactual racist party, that the author suggests it has become.
The Democrat political record, policies and FACTs around which party has done more for civil, minority or equal rights, speaks for itself and is a stark asymmetrical historical pattern of trying to do and doing the right legislative thing, for minority groups, when compared to Republicans.
Despite the laughable misconceived notion of Democrat internal party racism, as a some planned, carried out mass party policy, that "pales in comparison" to the Lee Atwater's Southern strategy, is ludicrous. FACT: Dems have had "racist" temerity, put forth a NOT one, BUT two (2) Black candidates and two (2) women candidates for president. Repubs NOT one in either category (not that this is an indicator of being racist or sexist, but it sure is telling)..[/QUOTE]The last remaining racists who ever voted for a Democrat to get his / her anti-Black, misogynistic agenda fulfilled would be in their 80's by now. Like Trump. And their last Dem vote for that agenda to be fulfilled rather than for the Dems' overwhelmingly superior economic policy results would have been cast around 1964.
That is, if they survived Trump's Pandemic virus after believing his bullshit about "it's disappearing! It will go away without a vaccine!" and ignored the other known mitigation measures but without the advantage Trump enjoyed of being helicopter Dumbo Dropped into the best medical facility in the country within minutes of developing a cough.
Most "Bothsider / Neithersiders" who claim not to notice the blatantly obvious, impossible to miss difference between the Civil Rights achievements, candidates, SCOTUS appointments, etc of the Dem Party vs the many decades long and now accelerating efforts by the Repub Party to abolish those advancements, suppress and overturn Black participation and votes by the Repub Party along with the even more blatantly obvious, impossible to miss difference between Great Dem Economic Recoveries, Great Dem Economic Expansions, Great Historic Dem Jobs Creation and Wage Gains of the past 100 years vs every Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Great Repub Stock Market Crash, Housing Value Crash, Financial Crash and Massive Historic Jobs Destruction during that same 100 years are in reality Repub-leaning racists and misogynists hiding behind that "Bothsider / Neithersider" bullshit. Perhaps hiding the truth of it even to themselves.
It says this in The Constitution for the United States of America.
[QUOTE]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or [u]abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press[/u]; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[/QUOTE]Choosing nether party that serves my interests is a smart decision. The Democrats want to define me by my race. The Republicans want to hate me because of my race. Neither party wants to help me as an individual achieve the goals I have set that define my [I]life, liberty and pursuit of happiness[/I].
When you join a political party and tow the party line you are allowing other to think for you. You are allowing your political leaders to tell you how you should think and what you shouldn't or should not support.
Democrats posting in this thread have not touched the issue of lack of support of crypto in the Dis United States of America. Why is that? It is because both Democrats and Republicans want new financial slaves. When you cannot get off their corporate / government financial plantations, it does not matter what political party your overseers are a part of.
It really helps to think for yourself instead of letting the new Democratic Corporate / Government Plantation overseers think for you or the the White Hoodie Wearing Republican haters think for you. Both parties are just looking for economic slaves to power their victories.
The key for black people in the Dis United States of America is financial independence. My personal solution is to vote with my feet. To purchase land to grow food on. To own real / hard assets. The purchase of gold, silver and Bitcoin. Bitcoin price is 81,000/ USD per coin as I write this. Democrats are opposed to my financial freedom. I've already addressed this issue in a previous post.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2986218]Smart traders and investors (like me) took their [u]original investments out of the stock / crypto markets, booked some profit[/u] and I now sitting on cash as others are losing their SHIT cause they bought at the top of the market.
We are witnessing history. We are going through a major financial disruption. You are going to witness the largest transfer of wealth from one demographic to another in the history of this Earth. It might be so bad as to create international financial slaves for the rest of my days here on Earth. I don't know. [u]But I do know you need to protect yourself[/u].
Time to buy is now gentlemen! Time to pack your go back is now gentleman! [u]Time to build out your bug out location is now gentlemen[/u]. [b]It's about to get ugly![/b][/QUOTE]Now back to the main subject of this post:
[B]Abdul El-Sayed Campaign (2026):[/B] Michigan Democratic state Rep. Karen Whitsett and other Black Democratic officials have criticized Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, alleging the party's far-left wing takes Black voters for granted. Whitsett described some socialist-leaning party leaders as "more racist than the KKK" and accused figures like Al Sharpton of suppressing Black voter agency. Additionally, Jewish Democrats in Michigan have publicly expressed feeling alienated by El-Sayed's allies and rhetoric.
[QUOTE]An elected Democratic official in Michigan is rallying her community against U.S. Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed and claims those within the socialist rise of her party take Black voters for granted.
"It doesn't change, it's just different slave owners," Democratic Michigan state Rep. Karen Whitsett told Fox News Digital in reference to Democratic Party leaders who believe Black voters are a monolith who should only support left-wing candidates.
She claimed that El-Sayed is not working in the best interest of Black Michiganders and that the far-left wing of her party is "more racist than the KKK."[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/socialist-politicians-more-racist-than-kkk-says-black-dem-official-urging-voters-ditch-el-sayed[/URL]
[B]Jasmine Crockett and Chris Brown (2026):[/B] Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett faced backlash after pledging to enter singer Chris Brown into the congressional record. Critics, including Democratic strategist Ameshia Cross, condemned the move as "disgusting" and an inappropriate use of congressional weight to uplift a known abuser of women, sparking a cultural divide within the party regarding the balance between artistic support and accountability for violence.
[QUOTE]And I wanted to make sure we document that in the Congressional Record, Crockett continued onstage, joined by Brown and Texas State Rep. Venton Jones. Were here because of Chris Brown![/QUOTE][URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/18/entertainment/chris-brown-jasmine-crockett-cec[/URL]
[QUOTE]Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, suggested the Democratic Party was too focused on trying to win over White voters while ignoring more reliable Black voters during the Fourth of July weekend. During an interview with The Root at the Essence Festival in New Orleans, Crockett said that Black Americans feel ignored by the party despite their loyalty.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/jasmine-crockett-warns-democrats-too-focused-white-voters-ignoring-black-voters[/URL]
[B]Allegations of Racialized Politics:[/B] Various opinion pieces and internal party critiques argue that the Democratic Party increasingly relies on identity politics and "racial radicalism" to energize its base. Critics, including former Democratic operatives and conservative commentators, claim the party uses systemic racism narratives as a political tool that alienates working-class voters and minority groups who feel infantilized or taken for granted. Conversely, Democrats maintain that their platform addresses genuine structural inequalities and that recent losses among minority voters stem from policy failures rather than racial messaging.
[QUOTE][b]The Racist Roots and Current Facets of the Democratic Party[/b]
The Democratic Partys history with racism is not merely a footnote; it is a stark, defining chapter that has shaped its policies, actions, and voter base over centuries. From its inception, through the Civil War era, and into the modern age, the Democratic Party has demonstrated a consistent pattern of racist policies and attitudes, often paraded under the guise of progressivism or social justice.[/QUOTE][URL]https://jesterpolitics.com/2024/12/11/the-racist-roots-and-current-facets-of-the-democratic-party/[/URL]
Is it true that Democrats support baby killers? Elvis 2008 wrote that and not a single Democrat supporter has given him any push back. I post a article I did not write about racism in the Democratic party and three individuals who like Elvis 2008 have responded.
[B]Neither party is mine![/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084403]There is not a single reference to political parties electing anyone to public office at a federal level.
Democrats did not do that. USA Citizens who are at least 18 years old and meet their state's residency requirements are eligible to vote in federal elections.
Barack Obama received significant support from voters outside the Democratic Party in both of his presidential elections.
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2008/11/05/inside-obamas-sweeping-victory/[/URL]
Please review how the political system works in the Dis United States of America. You have some huge gaps in your understanding of it.[/QUOTE]Yes, they did. Obama and Harris were registered Democrats. Would either of them had go far as Republicans? Of course not.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3084524]Yes, they did. Obama and Harris were registered Democrats. Would either of them had go far as Republicans? Of course not.[/QUOTE]You make the statement as if it is a fact. But your statement is a logical fallacy.
[B]Begging the question[/B] [I]is a logical fallacy where an arguments premise already assumes the truth of its conclusion. Instead of offering independent support, the argument quietly builds the conclusion into its starting pointso the claim ends up propping itself up.
The skeleton is always the same: X is true because X is true, wearing different words.[/I].
Obama and Harris were registered Democrats (true) therefore democrats elected them (false). This is only true in primaries where registered Democrats are allowed to vote. In a general election every registered voter of every political party is allowed to vote.
Please note:
No member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has ever been elected to federal office, including the USA House of Representatives or Senate. While the party has fielded candidates in federal elections since the 1920's, it has never secured a victory at the federal level.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084503]It says this in The Constitution for the United States of America.
Choosing nether party that serves my interests is a smart decision. The Democrats want to define me by my race. The Republicans want to hate me because of my race. Neither party wants to help me as an individual achieve the goals I have set that define my [I]life, liberty and pursuit of happiness[/I].
When you join a political party and tow the party line you are allowing other to think for you. You are allowing your political leaders to tell you how you should think and what you shouldn't or should not support.
Democrats posting in this thread have not touched the issue of lack of support of crypto in the Dis United States of America. Why is that? It is because both Democrats and Republicans want new financial slaves. When you cannot get off their corporate / government financial plantations, it does not matter what political party your overseers are a part of.
It really helps to think for yourself instead of letting the new Democratic Corporate / Government Plantation overseers think for you or the the White Hoodie Wearing Republican haters think for you. Both parties are just looking for economic slaves to power their victories.
The key for black people in the Dis United States of America is financial independence. My personal solution is to vote with my feet. To purchase land to grow food on. To own real / hard assets. The purchase of gold, silver and Bitcoin. Bitcoin price is 81,000/ USD per coin as I write this. Democrats are opposed to my financial freedom. I've already addressed this issue in a previous post.
Now back to the main subject of this post:
[B]Abdul El-Sayed Campaign (2026):[/B] Michigan Democratic state Rep. Karen Whitsett and other Black Democratic officials have criticized Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, alleging the party's far-left wing takes Black voters for granted. Whitsett described some socialist-leaning party leaders as "more racist than the KKK" and accused figures like Al Sharpton of suppressing Black voter agency. Additionally, Jewish Democrats in Michigan have publicly expressed feeling alienated by El-Sayed's allies and rhetoric.
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/socialist-politicians-more-racist-than-kkk-says-black-dem-official-urging-voters-ditch-el-sayed[/URL]
[B]Jasmine Crockett and Chris Brown (2026):[/B] Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett faced backlash after pledging to enter singer Chris Brown into the congressional record. Critics, including Democratic strategist Ameshia Cross, condemned the move as "disgusting" and an inappropriate use of congressional weight to uplift a known abuser of women, sparking a cultural divide within the party regarding the balance between artistic support and accountability for violence.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/18/entertainment/chris-brown-jasmine-crockett-cec[/URL]
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/jasmine-crockett-warns-democrats-too-focused-white-voters-ignoring-black-voters[/URL]
[B]Allegations of Racialized Politics:[/B] Various opinion pieces and internal party critiques argue that the Democratic Party increasingly relies on identity politics and "racial radicalism" to energize its base. Critics, including former Democratic operatives and conservative commentators, claim the party uses systemic racism narratives as a political tool that alienates working-class voters and minority groups who feel infantilized or taken for granted. Conversely, Democrats maintain that their platform addresses genuine structural inequalities and that recent losses among minority voters stem from policy failures rather than racial messaging.
[URL]https://jesterpolitics.com/2024/12/11/the-racist-roots-and-current-facets-of-the-democratic-party/[/URL]
Is it true that Democrats support baby killers? Elvis 2008 wrote that and not a single Democrat supporter has given him any push back. I post a article I did not write about racism in the Democratic party and three individuals who like Elvis 2008 have responded.
[B]Neither party is mine![/B][/QUOTE]I've never heard of nor have I ever met someone who registered to vote as a member of any political party because they need to be told how to think.
On what planet has that ever happened?
I registered as a Democrat and vote for Democrats for the same reason 100% of every other registered Democrat I have ever met does; because we much prefer historic positive economic results, historic jobs creation, Stock Market gains and ending counterproductive quagmire wars of choice over Great Depressions, Great Recessions, massive historic jobs destruction, stock market crashes and the country being plunged into counterproductive quagmire wars of choice.
All available evidence, facts, data, records of results and easily observable reality for the past 100 years show that voting for Dems gets you the former and not voting for Dems gets you the latter. This isn't rocket science.
And here's apparently a shocker for some; even if you are registered under one Party affiliation you can disagree with that Party's candidate or the issues on the ballot and vote for somebody else or vote No on those issues. Really. You can actually do that. No law against it. Does anybody out there not know that is possible, perfectly legal and people do it all the time? If anyone didn't know that, you might want to take a break from voting for a while and do a little more reading of the USA Constitution, the supreme legal document of America, to discover there is no law forbidding it or any punishment under the law for doing it. It couldn't be any simpler to figure out.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084219]Hey Spidy,
No doubt my brother. The most civil and intelligent discussion I have had on ISG since I have been posting.
Yes, let's do it!
No, I have come around to your way of thinking. SWB is the way to go. Because of 3 things:
1. Length of time it takes to bring SMRs online.[/QUOTE]Agreed! Like you, I'm hopeful for SMR technology for smaller countries like the DR, once the technology has matured and other wealthier nations, have developed the tech, to where it is truly modular and scalable. Till then, the DR should just watch this space!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084219]2. SWB technology has developed and will continue to develop it may make SMR obsolete before they can ever come on line an produce power.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the advancements in SWB, seem to be moving more at a faster and cheaper pace. The DR should take note with regards to their reducing their 28% reliance on coal, as renewables in 2025 surpassed coal, as the biggest producer of power / electricity.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084219]3. I am personally pursing that route for my business in the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]That's great to hear! Congratulations and best of luck!
However you choose to power your business in the DR (off-grid, partially off-grid or totally on-grid), I'm pretty sure your installation experiences, will be as interesting, insightful and varied as your DR home install. I look forward to your stories and tells of woe and joy, of getting it done in the DR.
Your setup, always reminds me of the many Victron Energy videos, I've watched of homeowners, businesses and even commercial enterprises, in far-flung remote wilderness or urban density, use Victron products, that provide money saving economical solutions from running fossil fuels or unreliable electricity grids.
So when I hear stories, like the one you, SubCmdr are about to embark on, I can't help but think of the many great examples of similar off-grid or supplemental off-grid, solutions I've enjoyed watching on the Victron Energy, YouTube channel. There are so many great examples, and I have my personal favorites, but here's one or two you might be find interesting:
[LIST]Victron #1: How One Man Powers a Global App from a Dutch Cow Barn | Digital Money Business | Bitcoin | Crypto | [url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS-aRiblQ_8[/URL][/LIST][LIST]Victron #2: How One Family Built a Private Energy Factory | Pizza Restaurant Energy Company? | [url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCBbJUJJnxQ[/URL][/LIST]
Hope you like Victron #1 and Wietse Wind, a crypto digital money entrepreneur, who you may already know about, since you're pretty knowledgeable in those circles. Anyway I'll circle-back to more on the DR's current energy assessment a little later.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084529]You make the statement as if it is a fact. But your statement is a logical fallacy.
[B]Begging the question[/B] [I]is a logical fallacy where an arguments premise already assumes the truth of its conclusion. Instead of offering independent support, the argument quietly builds the conclusion into its starting pointso the claim ends up propping itself up.
The skeleton is always the same: X is true because X is true, wearing different words.[/I].
Obama and Harris were registered Democrats (true) therefore democrats elected them (false). This is only true in primaries where registered Democrats are allowed to vote. In a general election every registered voter of every political party is allowed to vote.
Please note:
No member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has ever been elected to federal office, including the USA House of Representatives or Senate. While the party has fielded candidates in federal elections since the 1920's, it has never secured a victory at the federal level.[/QUOTE]Do you think Obama and Harris would be acceptable as Republican nominees? They would never make it to general election. The Republicans generally don't like black people.
[QUOTE]I got a letter from the government the other day
I opened and read it, it said they were suckers
They wanted me for their army or whatever
Picture me giving a damn I said, "Never"
Here is a land that never gave a damn
About a brother like me and myself
Because they never did, I wasn't with it
But just that very minute, it
Occurred to me, the suckers had authority[/QUOTE][I]Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos[/I], [B]Public Enemy[/B].
I will not take a break from voting because a [B]International Trick[/B] living in Bangkok, Thailand on the taxes I pay to fund his Social Security Check (so he can pay for his prostitutes) tells me to do so.
I am already well versed on the The Constitution of the United States of America and the Declaration of Independence. I am always reading it because I want to make sure I principles I quote to others as a citizen of the Dis United States of America are correct. If the suggestion made by the OP was in paper memo form. I would immediately put in the [I]circular file[/I]. A very outdated expression (before the internet age / AI age) for sure. But the sentiment expresses my thoughts about the entirety of his response to me and his posting history here on ISG.
I have to wonder out loud if his suggestion is related to my race or to the fact that I choose not to tow the party line and instead choose to think independently. That right to think for myself is provided for me in the very document he suggests I spend more time reading. So maybe he should act on his own suggestion and brush up on The Constitution of the United States of America as it does not mention needing to be a member of a political party in order to express a political opinion or vote.
I stipulate to the information contained in the link below:
[URL]https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/historical-puzzle-us-economic-performance-under-democrats-vs-republicans[/URL]
[QUOTE]While economists like [u]Alan Blinder[/u] and [u]MarkWatson[/u] have confirmed this "nearly ubiquitous" advantage, they caution that the [u]correlation does not prove causation[/u], as factors like business cycle timing, global shocks, and luck also play significant roles.[/QUOTE][B]Correlation does not prove causation[/B]
Why?*Because a statistical association between two variables merely indicates they change together, not that one directly causes the other.
This distinction is critical because observed relationships can arise from [U]coincidence, reverse causality[/U], or a [U]third confounding variable[/U] influencing both factors.
To establish causation, researchers must go beyond simple correlation by employing [U]controlled experiments[/U] or rigorous longitudinal studies that rule out alternative explanations.
While [U]causation implies correlation[/U] (if A causes be, they will likely be correlated), the reverse is not true; many correlated events, such as [U]ice cream sales and drowning deaths[/U], are linked by a common cause (summer heat) rather than a direct causal link.
Not a single Democrat here has ever presented a study that included the mathematics that are needed in order to prove correlation. That is probably because most [B]International Tricks[/B] cannot do the math needed to do so. The math is hard (at least it is for me). I know because my of background in [I]Quantitative Sociology[/I] I learned at a top tier University in the Dis United States of America.
[QUOTE]Correlation analysis draws primarily from statistics (a branch of applied mathematics), but the specific mathematical tools involved span a few areas:
Descriptive statistics: means, standard deviations, and covariance are the building blocks of the Pearson coefficient.
Linear algebra: Pearson's coefficient is equivalent to the cosine of the angle between two centered data vectors (a normalized dot product). Multivariate correlation uses correlation matrices, and methods like principal component analysis and canonical correlation rely heavily on eigenvalue decomposition. Probability theory
Calculus appears in derivations (e.g., least-squares fitting) and in non-parametric variants like Spearman's rank correlation.
So in short: the core is [u]statistics + linear algebra[/u], underpinned by [u]probability theory[/u].[/QUOTE]So the reality is much of what Democrats are saying amount their opinions and no amount of reading The Constitution of the United States of America is going to change that. [U]They need to do the math[/U]. But they cannot. So instead they respond to me with their ideas that there is some kind of causation factor involved and there is not.
[B]Neither Party is mine![/B]
There are Republicans posting here, but the Democrat supporters do not address them. They are responding to me. Why is that? Republicans are responding to me. Why is that? Let me tell you why.
[U]It is because it is easy[/U] Easy to attack the individual who thinks for himself. Easy to call out the strong man who stands alone and will not bow down to the tyranny of the majority that consists of Democrats and Republicans that are posting in this thread. I point out the problems in each groups think mob (otherwise known as a political party). Only by calling attention to the problems in each party will those members have a opportunity to return to their [I]group think[/I] organizations and improve them.
[B]Crypto is a major issue that will help 70 million of my fellow citizens.[/B] Democrats are almost universally against any legislation that will improve the situation for crypto in the Dis United States of America. Why in the world should I register with a party that does not have my personal interests at heart? My vote is for me. It is not for some greater party interest.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3084382]They elected a black man as president and a black woman as vice president. Let me know when Republicans will do the same.[/QUOTE]Probably when a majority of black people stop voting for the dems and start voting for the Republicans. Don't you understand that the politicians normally represent their voters?
BTW, when will the democrats appoint a Latino as Secretary of State? It's only in the Republican Party a Latino can rise to become secretary of state in USA. Powell was the first Afro American to become Secretary of State in the US, Condoleezza Rice was the second. Both Republicans, and this was before Obama and Kamala.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3084564]Do you think Obama and Harris would be acceptable as Republican nominees?[/QUOTE]I will not comment on the lack of intelligence of this question. But I will answer it. The answer is no. Why? Because Obama and Harris are registered Democrats.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084574]Probably when a majority of black people stop voting for the dems and start voting for the Republicans. Don't you understand that the politicians normally represent their voters?
BTW, when will the democrats appoint a Latino as Secretary of State? It's only in the Republican Party a Latino can rise to become secretary of state in USA. Powell was the first Afro American to become Secretary of State in the US, Condoleezza Rice was the second. Both Republicans, and this was before Obama and Kamala.[/QUOTE]He has a good point. Since never party is mine, I will wait for a Democrat to answer the question.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084574]Probably when a majority of black people stop voting for the dems and start voting for the Republicans. Don't you understand that the politicians normally represent their voters?
BTW, when will the democrats appoint a Latino as Secretary of State? It's only in the Republican Party a Latino can rise to become secretary of state in USA. Powell was the first Afro American to become Secretary of State in the US, Condoleezza Rice was the second. Both Republicans, and this was before Obama and Kamala.[/QUOTE]That was quite some time ago with Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell? Are they reflective of Trump's Republican Party of today? Of course not. I guess you know better than me but as black guy in a predominantly black family I can only find 2 who supported Trump.
It's bit more complicated with Latino's. Rubio is Cuban and they are more conservative than Puerto Rican's. Lot's of Latino Trump supporters being dumped obscure countries on the African continent. Perhaps this explains why Trump is underwater in the latest polls.
This is a pretty interesting clip:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reels/DceJY0TJ-s3/[/URL]
Not only because it speaks to truth, but also because it shows Black American men are getting fed up with all insane Democrat BS. You hear me Abdul El-Sayed. Michigan ain't going to put you in the Senate.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084574]Probably when a majority of black people stop voting for the dems and start voting for the Republicans. Don't you understand that the politicians normally represent their voters?
BTW, when will the democrats appoint a Latino as Secretary of State? It's only in the Republican Party a Latino can rise to become secretary of state in USA. Powell was the first Afro American to become Secretary of State in the US, Condoleezza Rice was the second. Both Republicans, and this was before Obama and Kamala.[/QUOTE]So Condoleeza "I didn't notice and did nothing about that August 2001 PDB about Osama bin Laden determined to attack in the USA, likely by aircraft" Rice, Colin "Tons of WMD hidden in Iraq!" Powell and Little Marco "War in Iran? What War in Iran?" Rubio are your high water mark standards for what turned out to he strictly Repub DEI appointments despite their utter crap contributions to their office?
Lolol. Perfect.
What's next, praise to Trump for appointing the first Indian as head of the FBI? LOLOL.
Jimmy Carter's presidency (19771981) was defined by the 19801982 recession, the deepest and longest-lasting USA Economic downturn since the Great Depression, which began during his term and extended into the early Reagan years.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3084663]That was quite some time ago with Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell? Are they reflective of Trump's Republican Party of today? Of course not. I guess you know better than me but as black guy in a predominantly black family I can only find 2 who supported Trump.
It's bit more complicated with Latino's. Rubio is Cuban and they are more conservative than Puerto Rican's. Lot's of Latino Trump supporters being dumped obscure countries on the African continent. Perhaps this explains why Trump is underwater in the latest polls.[/QUOTE]So you're just going to ignore the fact that Ben Carson was picked to be the Secretary of HUD by President Donald J Trump?
A Latino is a Latino, it's ridiculous to see you trying to belittle Cubans for not being Puerto Ricans as if it was better to be from Puerto Rico.
How is it possible to get inflation in check with diesel fuel at 6.44 USD / gal?
That is a 75% increase over last year!
Diesel is used by the 3 Ts (trucks, trains and tractors).
These vehicles deliver everything!
What do you guys think about FBI defending beastiality? I thought it would have made sense during Democrat regime but MAGA regime truly leaped ahead of them.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/15/kash-patel-fbi-hiring-policy-bestiality[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3083773]I am not all that interested in what stance political Parties take on Social issues. That's for suckers.[/QUOTE]So why are you focused on racial issues while completely ignoring economic ones?
[B]Interest Rates are as high as they were before the 2007 Global Financial Crisis[/B]
Conditions are not the same with problems of bank solvency. But the Dis United States of America has a dramatically higher Debt to GDP ratio.
[U]Price of Oil[/U]
[QUOTE=Canada;3074337]One of the main reasons is when Trump won the presidency he encouraged oil drilling and USA now is producing 13,500,000 barrels per day. Also reduced regulations for the oil companies now make it possible to make good money at $72 a barrel. Chevron said profits are good enough at $72 a barrel to drill, do exploration and to make capital improvements worldwide. I expect a glut of oil in next year and see prices in the $60-$65 range.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074372]Yes, oil jumped higher after the Mullas were taken out in February and the IRCG began to block oil tankers from shipping in the straits. I mentioned the price of crude in my last post because it acts as a barometer for what is going on in this war and who is wining. Will crude go back up into the 80's in the short run? I don't know. Maybe. But it ain't going up to $150 a barrel and staying there and it ain't going to do any permanent damage the US Economy. I will bet on that because [/QUOTE]The above posts did not age well.
Brent Spot: 103.37 WTI Spot: 99.53.
A rough rule of thumb from the Fed: every $10/ barrel increase raises headline inflation by 0. 2 percentage points. A permanent 10% rise in oil adds roughly 0. 4% to headline CPI over a year.
Crude oil is a key input for transportation, manufacturing, petrochemicals, and shipping. Higher costs get passed through to goods prices. The correlation between oil and the PPI is 0. 71, far stronger than the 0. 27 correlation with the CPI, meaning oil hits producer prices much more directly than consumer prices.
Might the current undeclared military action against Iran have something to do with increased Oil prices? What are democrats doing to stop this other than talk? Are they smart enough to capitalize on the economic pain me and my fellow citizens of the Dis United States are feeling for the midterms.
Key levels to watch are 105,110, 115 (max pain) before possible reversal.
[U]Crypto Regulation in the Dis United States of America[/U]
Not a single Democratic Supporter posted here has addressed the Democratic Party opposition to crypto in the Dis United States of America. Why is that? What is the reasoning behind the opposition?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084741]Jimmy Carter's presidency (19771981) was defined by the 19801982 recession, the deepest and longest-lasting USA Economic downturn since the Great Depression, which began during his term and extended into the early Reagan years.[/QUOTE]The only Recession that occurred under Jimmy Carter started in January 1980 and was over 6 months later in July 1980, with a peak unrmployment rate of 7. 8%. It was one of the shortest and least "destructive" Recessions in history, barely qualifying as a conventional Recession of 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. In fact, it was intentionally induced by Fed Chairman Paul Volcker raising Fed Funds rates in order to cool down an overheated economy:
[B]List of recessions in the United States.[/B]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States[/URL]
[QUOTE]NBER considers a very short recession to have occurred in 1980, followed by a short period of growth and then a deep recession.
...........
1980 Recession.
January 1980 - July 1980.
Duration 6 months.
Peak unemployment rate 7. 8% (July 1980).
GDP decline (peak to trough) -2. 2%[/QUOTE]The deep Recession you or whoever else it was that doesn't know what they're talking about started in July 1981, under Repub Ronald Reagan, lasted 1 year and 4 months with a peak unemployment rate of 10.8%.
The National Bureau of Economic Research, NBER, the USA Government recognized arbitor for the beginning and ending dates of USA Recessions, is very clear about it.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3084743]So you're just going to ignore the fact that Ben Carson was picked to be the Secretary of HUD by President Donald J Trump?
A Latino is a Latino, it's ridiculous to see you trying to belittle Cubans for not being Puerto Ricans as if it was better to be from Puerto Rico.[/QUOTE]That's tokenism. You only have one black guy in the Senate. Tim Scott and only 4 in the House (I know that sounds a like a lot for folks like yourself LOL) All them (House) will be gone after this year.
[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;3084753][b]Since it's USG[/B]
What do you guys think about FBI defending beastiality? I thought it would have made sense during Democrat regime but MAGA regime truly leaped ahead of them.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/15/kash-patel-fbi-hiring-policy-bestiality[/URL][/QUOTE]Repub MAGAs rail against DEI hires while the only atrocious outcomes from diverse profile hires have been theirs.
Now they have finally broken that stubborn glass ceiling that made it so difficult for their bestiality proponents to produce atrocious results for the country.
One of ISG's most observant and skilled reading and comprehension members kindly pointed out that I "completely ignore" economic issues.
So I decided to look into it for a change and I'll be damned if I didn't discover the remarkable fact that Republicans have produced and presided over every Great Depression, Great Recession, stock market crash, housing value crash, financial crash and massive historic jobs destruction of the past 100 years and none of the great economic recoveries, great economic expansions and historic jobs gains while Democrats have produced and presided over every great economic recovery, great economic expansion and historic jobs gains and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions, stock market crashes, housing value crashes, financial crashes and massive historic jobs destruction of the past 100 years.
I don't think I've ever noticed that.
In addition to which it turns out this current and two previous Repub presidents produced and presided over some of the worst jobs creation and economic results in USA history while the previous three Democratic presidents produced and presided over some of the very best. With a special nod to the fourth previous Democratic president ranking right up there with the best of them as well.
I was amazed to discover such a thing. So I thought I would mention it in one of my rare if not first and only, according to that ISG member, economic issue posts.
Oh, and there is also this:
[B]Its awful: How tariffs, soaring fuel and higher rates are squeezing businesses[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/20/tariffs-fuel-prices-and-interest-rates-squeeze-us-companies.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Tariffs are raising the cost of materials and goods, higher fuel prices are increasing production and transportation costs, and higher interest rates are making inventory more expensive to finance.
Auto suppliers, chemical companies, and other industrial businesses are seeing margins squeezed as they struggle to absorb higher costs.
Companies that can pass higher costs to customers are better positioned, while businesses facing price-sensitive consumers risk losing demand if they raise prices too much.[/QUOTE]I'll try to submit more of these economy-related posts in the future.
I continue to fight the good fight against disinformation coming from registered democrats who are [B]International Tricks/Sexpats[/B] in Bangkok, Thailand.
[QUOTE]At the end of World War II, from 1945 to 1946, there was a very sharp drop in U.S. output (12.1 percent) as the war economy began its transition to a civilian economy. [u]The deepest and longest-lasting recession the United States has experienced since then began in 1980, when Jimmy Carter was president (the gross domestic product dropped 9.6 percent in the second quarter of that year) and did not end until fourth-quarter 1982, almost two years into the Reagan presidency[/u]. There were positive quarters during this almost three-year period, resulting in what is known as a double-dip recession, but GDP did not return to the 1979 level until well into 2003. Unemployment peaked at 10.6 percent in the fall of 1982.
Both President Reagan and President Obama inherited an economy suffering from a year of no growth, along with rising unemployment. (The numbers are almost identical.) But Mr. Reagan faced a far direr situation in that inflation was in the double digits and the prime interest rate was at 20 percent. In contrast, Mr. Obama inherited an economy in which inflation was falling (in fact, inflation has been close to zero for this year) and interest rates were very low.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cato.org/commentary/worst-recession[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3084816]The deep Recession you or whoever else it was that doesn't know what they're talking about[/QUOTE]It has been stated I don't know what I am talking about. I guess whoever said that about me can take it up with the [U]Cato Institute[/U].
Here is a FACT no Democrat or Republican supporter here has disputed: [B]Correlation does not imply causation[/B] is a fundamental statistical principle stating that a observed association between two variables does not prove that one variable causes the other to change. There has been a poster that acknowledged that. Stating that the recession that started during the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and lasted into the Reagan Presidency was not caused by either of them.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3084816]In fact, it was intentionally induced by Fed Chairman Paul Volcker raising Fed Funds rates in order to cool down an overheated economy[/QUOTE]Now since we are talking economic policy, care to explain why Democrats are almost universally opposed to improving market conditions for crypto in the Dis United States of America that affect over [B]70 million[/B] of my fellow citizens.
Nope, asked the question multiple times. All I hear is crickets.
ROTFLMAO!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084751]How is it possible to get inflation in check with diesel fuel at 6.44 USD / gal?
That is a 75% increase over last year!
Diesel is used by the 3 Ts (trucks, trains and tractors).
These vehicles deliver everything![/QUOTE]Because of Trump war, when he is so stupid ignorant, putting fire in middle East, with now Yemen attacking Saudi with already a pipeline destroyed. Get rid of your stupid senile.
Yes, every USA Republican president over the last 100 years has had a recession occur during their tenure, though the specific causes and the party in power when the downturn began vary. However, 10 of the 11 recessions since 1953 began under Republican administrations, with the notable exception being the 1980 recession, which started under Democrat Jimmy Carter.
Irrelevant to the discussion. Sample size is statistically insignificant.
[U]Correlation does not prove causation[/U]
Why? Because a statistical association between two variables merely indicates they change together, not that one directly causes the other.
Check Ball!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3084876]I continue to fight the good fight against disinformation coming from registered democrats who are [B]International Tricks/Sexpats[/B] in Bangkok, Thailand.
[URL]https://www.cato.org/commentary/worst-recession[/URL]
[B]It has been stated I don't know what I am talking about. I guess whoever said that about me can take it up with the [U]Cato Institute[/U].[/b]
Here is a FACT no Democrat or Republican supporter here has disputed: [B]Correlation does not imply causation[/B] is a fundamental statistical principle stating that a observed association between two variables does not prove that one variable causes the other to change. There has been a poster that acknowledged that. Stating that the recession that started during the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and lasted into the Reagan Presidency was not caused by either of them.
Now since we are talking economic policy, care to explain why Democrats are almost universally opposed to improving market conditions for crypto in the Dis United States of America that affect over [B]70 million[/B] of my fellow citizens.[/QUOTE]Yep. On that issue, neither you nor that Cato commentator knows what he's talking about.
NBER does though.
Interesting that the commentator knows there is such a thing as the NBER. Yet he totally misstates its officially stated timeline for those TWO DIFFERENT Recessions.
From your link:
[QUOTE]The private National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) has served as an authority for defining recessions in the United States.[/QUOTE]Which strongly suggests he is flat out lying about it rather than just making a lazy mistake. Also, he gets too many other things that are just plain wrong in that commentary, too, such as the direction the rate of inflation was going when Reagan took office. He is flat out, provably wrong about it.
Here's how it went:
July 1980. The one and only mini recession under Carter ended after 6 months.
August 1980. No recession.
September 1980. No recession.
October 1980. No recession.
November 1980. No recession.
December 1980. No recession.
January 1981. Carter leaves office and Reagan takes office.
January 1981. No recession.
February 1981. No recession.
March 1981. No recession.
April 1981. No recession.
May 1981. No recession.
June 1981. No recession.
July 1981. A year after Carter's mini recession ended, Reagan's Great Repub Recession begins and continues for 1 year and 4 months.
I hope that helps. Please send this to that Cato commentator with the link I provided previously for the NBER Recession timelines.
Thanks.
Democrats oppose crypto because it can make you financially independent. Since Democrats are the party of big government, the last thing the want is for me and my fellow citizens to become financially independent. No, Democrats want you to continue to sucking on the government teat so you will be consistently dependent upon the government.
Question: [I]What Democrat in the Senate has a 12 million USD net worth but opposes crypto for my fellow citizens in the the Dis United States of America[/I]?
[B]Elizabeth Warren[/B]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3084345]My RV has one Ecoflow power station with 4000 watts and two spare batteries also with 4000 watts for a total of 12,000 watts, and it has worked to run my AC unit all night. I can go 12 hours with night time AC and that has been a success. I no longer need a generator to stay cool at night. ...
By far, the fastest and easiest way to charge the power station is to plug it into a wall socket. ...
So the first thing I learn is the rooftop solar panels are damned near worthless for my needs. The wattage is just paltry. ... the small generator was $400, and I can charge the whole station much more quickly with a whopping $6 in gasoline.[/QUOTE]Once again, congratulations on your RV solution and remember, there is no shame, in using fossils fuels!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3084345]I like this woman and her real world tests and she had one on solar panels here: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFOgZ1DE98[/URL]
If I used the RV on a daily basis, and I do not, it would be years to get a return on the solar and that is assuming it is not damaged or stolen. [b]Once again, the math for solar just does not work.[/b][/QUOTE]Yeah, I get it. Really I do! It's just another case of [I][b]"Go Woke, Go Broke"[/b][/I] with renewables (SWB). According to your MAGA Fuhrer and now according to Elvis 2008, renewables just don't work in Trumpland and MAGA World and will only lose you money.
Whether it's "ugly, environmentally harmful" windmills, "economically disastrous" solar panels or "powerless" sodium batteries that won't work in mobile vehicles, it's clear that on Earth #2, renewables just don't work in Trumpland and MAGA world.
Frankly, I'm surprised that your Ecoflow power station and two (2) spare batteries worked at all on Earth #2 in MAGA World, due to the fact you, it wasn't long ago, you were complaining vociferously in a recent post, about [I]"how fucking expensive batteries and power stations were"[/I] and your solution was just to go with a propane (or diesel?) generator, which did the trick for your Airstreamer RV Camper. [I][b]So why the fuck, are you now buying and using power stations and batteries at all?[/b][/I].
Look, I didn't expect renewables (SWB) to work much at all in Trumpland on Earth #2, as they are harmful, "ugly" and are an economic disaster, on Earth #2. [NOPARSE]But, but, but...
[/NOPARSE][B]But meanwhile...[/B] back on Earth #1, [B](1)[/B] global solar generation increased by a record 636 terawatt-hours (TWh) in 2025, and crossed the 3 TW installed capacity threshold, the fastest in world energy electrical grid history. Solar generated more electricity than coal [I]in the U.S.[/I] for the first time in May 2026 (12.8% vs 12.2%) and [B](2)[/B] wind power supplied more than 53.5% of Britain's total electricity during the record-setting window of growth in 2026, helping drive gas-fired generation down to a multi-year low of just 2. 3% of the power mix. [B](3)[/B] The world installed a record 112 GW of battery storage capacity in 2025 (nearly 10 x 2021 levels), [I]with the U.S. at new highs,[/I] adding a record 20.2 gigawatt-hours of new capacity Q2 2026.
So while renewables don't work on Earth #2, here on Earth #1, they work just fine!
2026 The Year of the Battery [I](...apparently even on Earth #2, in MAGA World in a MAGA Airstreamer RV Camper...LOL!)[/I].
Attached are the key stats describing the US Economy under Carter & Reagan. The era was known for its stagflation IE slow growth, high inflation, and higher interest rates. The highest Fed Funds rate in USA History was 20% in June 1981. The US Economy was in deep trouble. Carter was ineffective in dealing with the issue. Reagan solved it. Period.
And yes, Eih, Reagan and Volker's tight money cure was tough love and brought on the deep 1982 recession. It took a great leader to go ahead with this policy despite it's political risks, but strategy worked and wiped out the disease. The economy flourished after the recession, the stock market took off and never looked back, and inflation remained under control until the imbecile Joe Biden came into office with his "green new deal" BS.
All recessions are bad. But the one very brief mini recession under Carter was ranked among the "least bad" in USA history.
Meanwhile, count the number of Recessions started under Repubs vs Dems since the bill came due for WWII in the late 1940's. All of them started under Repubs except for that one very brief, least bad mini recession under Carter for the 6 months from January 1980 to July 1980.
There are only data and facts here in this link. Don't look for partisan commentary making up stuff that didn't happen. This list was compiled in 2019 so the recession during Repub Trump's 1st term is not included:
[B]All U.S. Recessions Ranked From Bad to Downright Ugly.
Oct. 9, 2019[/B]
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-recessions-ranked-bad-downright-090000167.html[/URL]
[QUOTE].........To nail down which recession really was worse, GOBankingRates looked at the length of each one, using information from the Bureau of Economic Research.
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[B]Early 1980s Recession[/b]
[B]Start:[/b] January 1980
[B]End:[/b] July 1980
[B]Length (in months):[/b] 6
As inflation hit more than 14%, the Federal Reserve had to increase interest rates as a countermeasure and when combined with the energy crisis it resulted in the economy contracting for the first half of the year.
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[B]1981-1982 Recession[/b]
[B]Start:[/b] July 1981
[B]End:[/b] November 1982
[B]Length (in months):[/b] 16
The term "Stagflation" was coined to describe this era when inflation was at record highs even while the economy struggled to grow. Monetary restrictions put in place to combat inflation played a major role in causing this notorious recession.[/QUOTE]
Rooftop solar allows my fellow citizens in the Dis United States of America to begin to take back their independence. [U]That is priceless[/U]. It is not subject to cost benefit analysis. Now, when I looked the cost of connecting to the grid for my land in the Dominican Republic, it was more economical to build an off grid system that generates power using solar panels. Plus no monthly electrical bill for 30 years. ROTFLMAO! I am still trying to figure out integrate wind into the installation.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084944]Once again, congratulations on your RV solution and remember, there is no shame, in using fossils fuels!
Yeah, I get it. Really I do! It's just another case of [I][b]"Go Woke, Go Broke"[/b][/I] with renewables (SWB). According to your MAGA Fuhrer and now according to Elvis 2008, renewables just don't work in Trumpland and MAGA World and will only lose you money.
Whether it's "ugly, environmentally harmful" windmills, "economically disastrous" solar panels or "powerless" sodium batteries that won't work in mobile vehicles, it's clear that on Earth #2, renewables just don't work in Trumpland and MAGA world.
Frankly, I'm surprised that your Ecoflow power station and two (2) spare batteries worked at all on Earth #2 in MAGA World, due to the fact you, it wasn't long ago, you were complaining vociferously in a recent post, about [I]"how fucking expensive batteries and power stations were"[/I] and your solution was just to go with a propane (or diesel?) generator, which did the trick for your Airstreamer RV Camper. [I][b]So why the fuck, are you now buying and using power stations and batteries at all?[/b][/I].
Look, I didn't expect renewables (SWB) to work much at all in Trumpland on Earth #2, as they are harmful, "ugly" and are an economic disaster, on Earth #2. [NOPARSE]But, but, but...
[/NOPARSE][B]But meanwhile...[/B] back on Earth #1, [B](1)[/B] global solar generation increased by a record 636 terawatt-hours (TWh) in 2025, and crossed the 3 TW installed capacity threshold, the fastest in world energy electrical grid history. Solar generated more electricity than coal [I]in the U.S.[/I] for the first time in May 2026 (12.8% vs 12.2%) and [B](2)[/B] wind power supplied more than 53.5% of Britain's total electricity during the record-setting window of growth in 2026, helping drive gas-fired generation down to a multi-year low of just 2. 3% of the power mix. [B](3)[/B] The world installed a record 112 GW of battery storage capacity in 2025 (nearly 10 x 2021 levels), [I]with the U.S. at new highs,[/I] adding a record 20.2 gigawatt-hours of new capacity Q2 2026.
So while renewables don't work on Earth #2, here on Earth #1, they work just fine!
2026 The Year of the Battery [I](...apparently even on Earth #2, in MAGA World in a MAGA Airstreamer RV Camper...LOL!)[/I].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3084688]Not only because it speaks to truth, but also because it shows Black American men are getting fed up with all insane Democrat BS. [/QUOTE]You sure about that. The following article speaks to the plight of productive black men in the Dis United States of America way more than Republican propaganda.
[QUOTE]John Boyd Jr., president of the National Black Farmers Association and a fourth-generation Virginia farmer, is coping with record diesel prices by reallocating funds from other farm expenses to cover fuel costs, a strategy he describes as "robbing Peter to pay Paul." With diesel costing him approximately $7 per gallonnearly double the price from a year agoBoyd spends roughly $1,000 to fill his tractor, while simultaneously harvesting corn that sells for only $5 per bushel
[b]The crisis is deepening as more than 400 Black farmers face the risk of losing their farms due to these soaring operational costs[/b].[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.npr.org/2026/09/21/nx-s1-5973073/diesel-prices-american-farmers-fuel-costs[/URL]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3084949]Attached are the key stats describing the US Economy under Carter & Reagan. The era was known for its stagflation IE slow growth, high inflation, and higher interest rates. The highest Fed Funds rate in USA History was 20% in June 1981. The US Economy was in deep trouble. Carter was ineffective in dealing with the issue. Reagan solved it. Period.
And yes, Eih, Reagan and Volker's tight money cure was tough love and brought on the deep 1982 recession. It took a great leader to go ahead with this policy despite it's political risks, but strategy worked and wiped out the disease. The economy flourished after the recession, the stock market took off and never looked back, and inflation remained under control until the imbecile Joe Biden came into office with his "green new deal" BS.[/QUOTE]Volcker was Carter's Fed Chair appointee. Volcker started his effective "tight money cure" in late 1979, almost a year and a half before Reagan took office. Carter knew what he would do to cure the stagflation that was well under way during the previous Repub administration and that's why he appointed him Fed Chair in 1979 despite his awareness that the pain of that "cure" would likely be felt all during the 1980 election year.
Reagan made no such difficult decision about that because Carter had already made that decision more than a year before he took the Oath of Office. Reagan had zero to do with Carter's Fed Chair's "tight money cure" that was already working to reduce the rate of inflation leading into and continuing into Reagan's first year in office.
Reagan's only contribution to "solving" the high Fed Funds rate "cure" Volcker was already effectively applying before he took office was his Great Repub Reagan Recession that NBER and all other data and evidence shows started no earlier than July 1981. And that's why Volcker could then further lower Fed Funds rates.
What on earth did Reagan say to Volcker in January 1981 or any time thereafter that had anything whatsoever to do with the "tight money cure" that Carter appointed Volcker to do in late 1979 and was already working? Bellow a heartfelt, "atta' boy! Keep it up! Sure glad I didn't have to make that decision. Now, somebody find my cowboy hat and pony"?
That is the classic Repub solution for lowering Fed Funds and inflation; cause a Great Recession, wipe out millions of jobs and skyrocket the unemployment rate.
The same reason the rate of inflation fell under Trump at the end of his 1st term with millions of jobs being wiped out and the unemployment rate skyrocketing to double digits.
The same reason the rate of inflation fell during Reagan's 2nd and 3rd year in office while the country was suffering through a whopping 10 consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates.
Yet Carter managed to preside over Volcker's "tight money cure" of higher Fed Funds rates without wiping out any jobs, with one of the shortest and least damaging mini Recessions on record and only a single month spike to 7. 8% in the unemployment rate in July 1980 whereupon it immediately began to trend downward month after month before Reagan took office, when Reagan took office and after Reagan took office.
Biden managed to do it without a Recession at all, lowering the employment rate and, instead of wiping out any jobs, by recovering the millions of jobs Trump's presidency wiped out and then going on to creating millions more jobs than all three previous (and current) Repub presidents combined.
In fact, Biden and Carter each created as many private-sector jobs in just 4 years as Reagan did in 8 while Reagan tripled the National Debt and each of those Dems' policies created more private-sector jobs than Trump, GW Bush and GHW Bush combined with no indication whatever that record will change by the blessed and merciful end of Trump's 2nd full term as so-called president.
Medias like CNN refused in White House by Trump. After Musk corruption, now 5000 USD corruption by Trump to try to save midterms, USA under him are not anymore a democracy, but a new dictator with ICE, like his friend he sucks, Putin who threaten to vote for him.
[QUOTE]The Director-General of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), QU Dongyu, emphasized today that the global fertilizer scarcity caused by disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz will lead to lower yields and tightening food supplies in the latter half of 2026 and into 2027.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.fao.org/newsroom/detail/strait-of-hormuz-crisis--fertilizer-scarcity-will-affect-next-harvests-and-food-supplies--fao-warns/en[/URL]
[B]Chokepoint: How the War with Iran Threatens Global Food Security[/B]
[URL]https://www.csis.org/analysis/chokepoint-how-war-iran-threatens-global-food-security[/URL]
If the Republicans are willing to do this, what makes anyone think they care about you as citizen of the Dis United States of America?
Thomas Massie (KY) on September 15,2026, who introduced eight articles accusing Hegseth of violating the War Powers Resolution, conducting extrajudicial killings, and illegally retaliating against critics.
[URL]https://massie.house.gov/uploadedfiles/articles_of_impeachment_sec._hegseth.pdf[/URL]
Massie invoked House Rule IX to force a vote, though Speaker Mike Johnson adjourned Congress to delay it until after the midterms.
In my opinion, there is at least one (1) Republican trying to do the right thing.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084944]Yeah, I get it. Really I do! It's just another case of "Go Woke, Go Broke"with renewables.[/QUOTE]Renewables? LOL. [URL]https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/what-is-renewable-energy[/URL]
Renewable energy is energy derived from natural sources that are replenished at a higher rate than they are consumed. Sunlight and wind, for example, are such sources that are constantly being replenished. Renewable energy sources are plentiful and all around us.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084944]Whether it's "ugly, environmentally harmful" windmills, "economically disastrous" solar panels or "powerless" sodium batteries that won't work in mobile vehicles, it's clear that on Earth #2, renewables just don't work in Trumpland and MAGA world.[/QUOTE]And solar panels and batteries and windmills are part of the renewable scam? They do not need to be built or maintained? And they cost nothing?
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084944]So why the fuck, are you now buying and using power stations and batteries at all?[/QUOTE]I should not have. I had to learn. My AC uses 1000 watts per hour. My power station can take in 2600 watts of solar per hour, so that is no problem when the sun is shining. Of course, you have to buy $2000 of solar panels and have the space to set them up, but at least, the AC works.
If you want to run the AC at night, that is 12,000 watts of juice, and you have two choices, a $400 generator burning $5 of gasoline per night or $5000 in batteries. Your year of the battery bullshit completely misses that point with regards to cost.
And your dumb Earth 1 bullshit assumes all climates are the same. If you are in a desert like climate where there is a lot of sun and free space and temps plummet at night where you need little to possibly no night time AC, then the solar-battery combination might be a cost effective solution. But where it stays hot at night like where I am in Texas, the solar-battery combo makes no financial sense.
If I do not need the electricity and have time, slapping up a cheap solar panel to power up the batteries I bought might make sense too.
The problem with you though is you are literally making objective and mathematical issues political. What kind of horseshit phrasing is "renewable" energy?
The energy from ethanol and biodiesel comes from the sun too right? Are they "renewables"? What does the UN say about them?
"Fossil fuels. Coal, oil and gas. On the other hand, are non-renewable resources that take hundreds of millions of years to form. Fossil fuels, when burned to produce energy, cause harmful greenhouse gas emissions, such as carbon dioxide. ".
And here we go with the lie of omission.
[QUOTE=Spidy;3084944] global solar generation increased by a record 636 terawatt-hours (TWh) in 2025, and crossed the 3 TW installed capacity threshold, the fastest in world energy electrical grid history. Solar generated more electricity than coal in the U.S. for the first time in May 2026[/QUOTE]WTF does this mean? If I put a solar panel on my RV and I have filled up my batteries to the brim, does it count that I am still generating solar power? According to that Doomberg report, China is using only one in four of its solar panels.
The math on solar and wind only works when the sun is shining or the wind is blowing. It falls off a cliff when there is no sun or wind. How can this be the year of the battery when the cost of power from batteries is at least 10 X higher than the cost of fossil fuels?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3084860]Repub MAGAs rail against DEI hires while the only atrocious outcomes from diverse profile hires have been theirs.
Now they have finally broken that stubborn glass ceiling that made it so difficult for their bestiality proponents to produce atrocious results for the country.[/QUOTE]It's hard for outside observers to follow who is liberal and who is conservative these days. MAGA leadership seems very liberal when it comes to sex with beasts, inanimate objects, kids and marriage with sex workers. They are also great at inflation game so prostitution could flourish. All that remains is for Americans to stop paying onlyfans e-girls.