Davao

Piper 1,

Thankyou for your comments. I will relate about GE and your DS in this Post. As to May, I realized after I posted that it sounded like I could not "hold out" for long before orgasm. What I meant is that I had become quite attached to May and really liked her. I was hoping this would be a long term relationship. As it turns out she has more secrets than the CIA at Langley. GE is speculating that she is married, living with a guy backhome (lives with roommates at the University dorm in Davao City) or working as a semi-pro hooker somewhere in Davao. Not enough information to make any real decision.

GoodEnough and I chat on the internet daily. Whe I was making the Post on the SCK GE came online. I told him I was replying to his Post about the guys on tight budgets coming to Davao. He said, I "take it it is 'tongue in cheek' ". I replied, "no I mean every word I am writing". He came back ten minutes later and replied, "I just read it. It was really funny". I told him that I thought he would enjoy my humor.

GoodEnough does enjoy being helpful to guys here. I enjoy having a few momens of humor from some of the stories he relates to me, off the Forum, relating to the GUys he meets. I often find myself sitting at a corner table in Henny's Restaurant along with a couple of these guys.

A month ago GoodEnough told me if I decided to visit Davao later this month he would host Thanksgiving Dinner. I was planning to stay here until the end of the Year but work has not been super busy and I bring work along on my Trips now and found that this is very productive. I even had my lovely Rema, now in Cebu, and my Son's mother assist me, which was very helpful.

I decided that a short Trip and Thanksgiving Dinner at GoodEnough's Home would be nice. The miles might just put me over for Platinum Elite status with NWA for 2008. I have to decide on Champagne for the evening and I already know that my Jen will accompany me. Her hot looking auntie complains about Jen being away from the Karaoke Club, one of you guys can drop by, massage the girl's fine rack, and tell her she does just fine running the Place on her own.

Dragon Slayer

Its a great thing we all have different tastes. I have seen some real stunners from Davao from the dating sites and met some in Manila, mostly nonbargirls. I just can't get with the Mommies unless they had children at a young age. Stretch marks and deflated tits gives me immediate shrinkage in bed. For an older guy, these girls would be serious prizes but for anyone under 50, there are thousands of girls who are not mommies or cherry girls all throughout Mindinao.

Honestly, not criticizing Dragon, I appreciate his tales but those of you who have never been to Mindinao should know that these girls are not the norm.

First of all, it's great to see Piper and Optimus posting here. The more the merrier, and I hope you guys will post consistently herein.

As to the stretch marks and sagging tits, I'm not sure if that's a fair assessment of most Davao mommies. Many, if not most of them retain their slimness and reasonably perky breasts. Those who have had multiple kids of course are not included in this assessment. However, as OptimusPrime points out, there are so many young, childless women here that there's not need to settle for someone who doesn't meet your expectations. I don't know what it is about this city, but as I've said before, and as I know DS agrees, this has got to be the best place on earth to meet non-pro women. It's just so easy and there are so many.

However, you need not be under 50 to take advantage of the non-mommies. I was just in Swiss Deli picking up some steaks, and I saw an expat resident who had to be deep in his seventies, with a stunning, young 20 something, and given her bare midriff, I can reasonably assure you that she was a non-mommie. I am substantially on the dark side of fifty, not particularly good looking, and still get hit on by 18-25 year olds all the time. Must be my obvious charm and wit. Actually, if you're between the ages of 18 and death and you cannot score pussy here then there's no place in the world where you're going to succeed.

GE

DS,

Good to see a friendly reply to my kidding around with you. That's what this board is about - info about girls, tales of our heroic conquests ;) and a bit of wisecracking on the side between fellow hobbyists (including laughing at ourselves). I knew what you meant by 'too bad it ended so soon' but it was an easy double-entendre to play with. Keep up the entertaining reports.

Hey DS and GE I just bought my ticket to Davao and will be there on Dec. 13th. I was wondering if you could recommend a place to stay that has no a/c, running water or bed. I would prefer something without a door as well, basically some sort of box with a lid. I am willing to pay 10p but only if the lid has holes punched in it.

I kid, I kid. Anyway, despite I guess being lumped in with the bottom feeders, I 'm going to try to get a room at Casa Leticia online. I'm assuming this time I'm early enough to actually reserve a decent room. Marco Polo is just to swank for me, I'm not there to impress anyone that much. But I definitely want to buy whomever is there some drinks, so GE if you don't mind hanging around with yet another "buddy" I'd like to hang. Referrals to your gf's friends is optional don't sweat it. DS I hope you are there too, so I can get the chance to see you guys razz each other.

The thing is I met a great girl on CB from about 2 hrs. Out of Davao. She wants me to go there, and I got to tell you she is sweet and really hot. I enjoy talking to her and although cherry, I have to take the shot and go see her. She of course is telling me that she loves me already, but I actually go with it. I'm not worried she is going to turn out to be a scammer looking for dollars, but I am worried she is sexually going to be a hold out. That will be fine for a day of meeting her relatives and going to dinner, but I have to get laid often and well during my stay. She wants me of course to stay with her my entire visit, but I've tried to tell her politely that sex is important in relationship, so we'll see. I could actually get serious with this one, so what do you guys think my chances are of her warming up and spreading out to me? I don't know how far to push, so perhaps you can give me some advice.

This is the first time taking Phillippine Airline from Korea and then from Phil back to the US direct. Hope the meals don't suck on the way home. But I figure maybe I'll run into some cuties on the ride back to L. A. We'll see. Anyway see you guys in a month.

Achilles, I'm curious about where this girl might live, since there aren't too many cities two hours from Davao, except maybe General Santos. Be careful before you agree to go visit her there, especially if she lives in North or South Cotabato Province or in Cotabato City itself. There have been more than a few violent skirmishes there in the recent past, and there are not many foreigners, so you would stand out. If she lives slightly West in Digos, beware of the fact that it's a total shit hole and, while at little physical risk, you may be at risk of dying from boredom. There are extremely few expats and zero amenities.

You might want to consider insisting that she take the bus to come see you. This offers a couple of strong advantages: first, if it doesn't work out, you can escape immediately. Second, at least you will be in a major city with real restaurants, malls, movies and other places to go with her. Third, and most important, you will not be suffocated by her family which is a really probability if she traps you in a small town with a limited range of things to do and little public transportation. Remember too that if you get inveigled into visiting the family you will probably get stuck for all expenses while you're there.

To move on to another point, we were at Henny's place last night for dinner, and Someplace Else, which is just next door, was rocking. There were several tables of women all of them on the prowl, as well as single women just strolling around. We ending the night at Chico's on Rizal St., which had an excellent band. Here again, there were lots of hot single women and exactly zero expat men to pay attention to them. The band had two hot women singers, both of whom I met and both of whom might have been available if I read the signals correctly. Of course, I was with my wife and they may have been more relaxed speaking with me because of that. We passed Bar 183 on the way home, and as usual on a week end, at 1:30 in the morning it was rocking and packed.

GE

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Guys,

For the Socially Challenged Karp (SCK) there are stores down on San Pedro that put some very large furnitue and appliance boxes outside until the trash gets picked up. This is once a week. You can easily sleep in one of these as long as you do not mind a few "Guests" (drunk filipinos, rats and wasted street walkers). Be sure to conceal your valuables inside a condon inserted into your body cavity (when you awake you can remove the valuables and use the condom to bang one of the SW's beside you).

Achillesheel,

Years ago I did these excursions into the countyside to meet young filipinas. I ALWAYS regretted it. Once I found myself in waist deep ( I am 6'4") water pushing the taxi across a river (Yes a fucking river that ran over the dirt road at one point). A few times I had to walk the last mile or two as the road ened. I finally realized what a wste of time, energy and money this was. I have NOT done this since 1998. END OF STORY.

Virtualy all the women I meet live in Davao or just outside it. The others will either come to Davao by bus to meet me or find some other guy to be the dumbshit and make the journey. IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT! What they think is comfortable most of us would find unbearable. One girl invited me to stay with her Family saying, "we are nine people sleeping in one room but you are wlecome (what the fuck is one more body on the floor!)".

She is a virgin and you are going to her Place and you think you are getting laid??? I am already taking wagers on this one. Did you ever know anyone who raised farm aniamls or dogs? The female is always brought to the male's territory for breeding. I laughed years ago when a Family wanted to breed their AKC registerd famale dog to my champion stud. They asked if we minded him being at their home as they were concerned for the safety of their little "lady". I said," just sign a Letter releasing me from all responsibility when he bites a few of you, tears up your home and pisses everywhere (the Guy has to mark his new territory).

You want to get laid? Then tell the Lady to come to you. Want an "adventure" travelling around the countryside of Davao Del Sur, then go visit her. Bring tons of OFF or some other super powerful mosquito repellent and every possible necessity of normal life. They will possess none of this. Be sure of transportation back to Davao the same day UNLESS you do not mind sleeping on the floor or a wooden bed (I once in a Home outside Zamboanga City slept on a bed with some wooden logs as a pillow under mosquito netting in 85 degree humidity; lost ten pounds sweating).

As to virgins: did you readthe Post in Cebu from the gentleman who met a few? A good Post but it appeared he spent a lot of time 'trying to get laid', not getting laid, or like my nephew, the Kid, "almost getting laid". This last Trip to Davao of the seven ladies I fucked in Davao, one was a virgin. My first virgin in two years. A very sweet lady who literally asked me over the internet to take her virginity. She showed up at my Marco Polo hotel room ready to fuck. I need to post on it. But in brief, whe was very sweet but it was by far the worst fuck I have had in the last ten years.

Dragon Slayer

Achillesheel sounds like one of the new breeds of cherry hunters trolling the chat sites like CB and even some of the nudie chat sites looking for cherry girls to bust open. Promising them or giving them hopes of marriage in order to the be the first one and guarateed disease free. They never admit they are cherry hunters but there are some of them out there. A cherry to NEARLY ALL decent looking Filipinas is more valuable than gold, its all they have. The ugly and older ones will give it up to the first guy willing to fuck them. The younger hot ones are waiting for a sponsor and a way out of their shithold.

Yea, I know I am stating the obvious but going to a land of women willing to fuck so easily. Why bother with the cherry girls unless you are really serious about them and won't bail after fucking them. If they want a guy to take their virginity and take off, they might as well give it to one of the local dirtbags.

Optimusprime,

Thankyou for your input. I like your comments.

Guys,

Lets all, myself included, go easy on Achillesheel. I re-read his Post and I think he does like this girl and just wants a little advice. He got the advice and now he can make an educated decision. It is not unusual for a man to fall in love with a virgin.

Achillesheel,

Thankyou for again posting in my Forum. I appreciate it. Good luck with your Lady. I return to Davao on December 30, in time for GE's annual New Year's Eve Party. I will be in the Marco Polo and will host a Champagne gathering there either Jan 1 or 2 depending on hangovers. I leave this coming Trip very quickly due to work getting busy as we get closer to year end and the Annual Champagne Extravaganza held annually on the first Saturday in December in my City. Each year when I attend (last year I was even compted due to my good pal Steve providing the Taittinger for the event) I try Champagnes that I never had before and frequently, never heard of before.

Thanksgiving I will be in Davao with Jen$ for GE's Thanksgiving Day dinner. I have had turkey on Thanksgiving Day exactly once in the last twenty years. It, of course, was the only Thanksgiving Day I spent in the US. This will be nice. Fun also explaining what Thanksgiving Day is to my beautiful Jen. GE and I will tell her it is the day when american men give thanks for all the fine pussy they have been getting the past year.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=OptimusPrime]Achillesheel sounds like one of the new breeds of cherry hunters trolling the chat sites like CB and even some of the nudie chat sites looking for cherry girls to bust open. Promising them or giving them hopes of marriage in order to the be the first one and guarateed disease free. They never admit they are cherry hunters but there are some of them out there. A cherry to NEARLY ALL decent looking Filipinas is more valuable than gold, its all they have. The ugly and older ones will give it up to the first guy willing to fuck them. The younger hot ones are waiting for a sponsor and a way out of their shithold.[/QUOTE]I'm with the DS on this. While I would avoid virgins like the plague, as I hate the mess, the emotions and the lousy sex, I certainly don't disparage others who enjoy the hunt. I agree with Optimus that empty promises of marriage or something longer term are repugnant, but there's no indication from Achilles or from anyone else on this board that that's the case here. Let's not impute motives to someone who hasn't made them clear. I'm not sure I agree that for most girls here, their cherries are "more valuable than gold." Some have just never met a guy who turns them on enough to give it up. Others want to lose it to a foreigner, and there are doubtless others saving it for true love. But let's not automatically assume that all or even most virgins fall within this category.

I remember once, about 5 years ago, before I even met my wife, I met a friend of one of DS' then-girlfriends who was a nurse, a virgin, and came to my place determined to lose that status. I didn't oblige her due to the reasons cited above but there were certainly no promises on my part, and no declarations about any lasting relationship. I remember that she brought her young sister along, plunked her in front of the TV and then hauled me off to the bedroom for her first sexual experience. It didn't happen, but that was because of me and not her. I think that, as is the case with men, so too do women have varying motives for holding onto and giving up their virginity.

In the case of Achilles, getting trapped with a virgin queen in a small town, surrounded by her family and friends could be an extremely unpleasant experience. On the one hand, if he does screw her, the family and friends and community will all know about it 2.7 seconds after it happens, and they may have very high expectations indeed. Achilles my man, this is not a great idea; not for anything having to do with morality, but because it could be a serious threat to your safety at worst and at best to your emotional wellbeing.

If you want to see her, meet her in Davao and do not, under any circumstances agree to allow her to bring relatives, friends, chaperons, pets, acquaintances or any other sentient beings. If she ignores your admonition and shows up with the retinue in any case, bail the hell out as quickly as possible. Change hotels, change sim cards and cease communicating. Believe me, I know whereof I speak, and I've seen countless horror shows, all deriving from the same circumstances you describe. One poor bastard I know, who "met" the girl under the same virtual circumstances you describe, got stuck paying the hotel charges for the entire family which showed up en masse in Davao. On day three or this debacle, he asked me what to do and was so freaked out by the experience that he waited till everyone was sleeping, sneaked out of the hotel, went to the airport and caught the next flight to Manila! However, he still got stuck for excessive hotel bills.

For all you guys out there who think you've met "the one" via some Internet site and who plan to come here and meet her, watch your collective asses. She may, in fact, be as sweet, undemanding, loving and gorgeous as you hope, but the odds are at least 50-50 that, unless you're reasonably intelligent about the circumstances of your first meeting, you're going to wind up in an untenable situation. And for those of you who insist, as many will, that: "But this girl is different. I just know it," you should understand that I've heard exactly the same comment from every guy I know who wound up in less than a convivial situation.

GE

Well that got the conversation going now didn't it? First of all let me say that I am not a cherry hunter. I have had opportunities even in the U.S. to do it and I just took a pass, because I know the baggage that comes with it. The novelty is gone for me and that's the funny thing. Most guys are looking for a girl who can fuck them senseless while preparing a fine endive salad for the guests. Well, that's my hunt at least for anyone I would consider hitching up with. I lived with 3 women I considered marrying in the U.S., one from the midwest, one on the east coast and one on the west. I never did, because I know what works and what I want now and I intend to do my best to find it.

So that being said, this girl is actually someone I just have fun talking to as well as her being a cutie. It's the first time in a long time that I can just goof around with someone talking and be ok with that. I am not "head over heels" or trying to be the first guy to break her in- I'm just seeing if there's something there that might be worth the hassle, yes including her inability to have sex. I know (duh) that at any time if it doesn't seem to be right, or there's a scam going on I can bolt to Davao and it's all there. So I'm not shaking in my boots if I get in a jam. I think we're all on CB playing the odds for fun, but always hoping to find the diamond in the rough. I just want to get close enough to check the color. Cool?

Damn Optimus, I'm not Megatron, so don't come gunning for me like I'm going for your daughter. Thanks for the nice block up front DS, appreciate the space to confirm that I am not a dirtbag softie. As far as where the hell she is, she wants to meet me at Lumbia Airport, I think that's the name. She is very cautious and unless one of you tells me this is the HQ of the local terrorists, I'm going to go see her. If she really is great then I'll stay for a bit. She even said after I meet her she'd be happy to travel with me while I was there. I do not want to hurt her because I like her. If it turns out I need to bail, I will not try to get some before I do. That's why there are so many scammers out there everyone gets burned and burns back. Don't want to be the one that starts the pattern for her.

I would NOT bring her to Davao, that being my back up in case she turns out to have a penis or extreme halitosis. Davao is my safe haven. And if I don't find something special, I want to be hitting everything I possibly can while I continue to look. Thanks for the feedback though, as always appreciate the knowledge GE and DS. I also think she talked about going to Cayagan De Oro for more things to do. Maybe this will give you an idea about where generally she is.

She knows I'm flying into Davao, and she questions me daily about other girls so she is not stupid either. I think we're both taking a risk and that makes us even, so we'll see. I think I have to keep a room there even if I go see her, because I'm going to be dragging major baggage with me for my flight back to the States. Can you recommend a hotel where my stuff will be safe even if I'm not occupying the room. I just thought about this problem today. See you in about 30-

I never heard of Lumbia Airport, though it could be the name of the CDO airport for all I know. If she's in Mindanao, you might want to consider flying to Davao, getting your room, and then flying off to Bumblefuck. On the other hand, you cannot fly from Davao to CDO as there are no longer any flights. If you do need to get there, you will have to take a bus and it's about a 7 hour ride, though a beautiful one. No worries on that score since there are lots of buses every day and the executive coaches are all air conditioned and they all show movies. It's a nice ride through Northwestern Mindanao and one I'll be taking again by car at the end of the month. Try to find out the name of the city in which she lives and I can give you some more accurate information.

As to keeping a room in Davao, try Las Casitas or Galleria. Both DS and I have written about these places before. Las Casitas is about a year old, and it's on Rizal St. next to the famous or infamous Bar 183 which is a major pick up place on the week ends and just up the street from Someplace Else and Henny's place and Chicos. Galleria is older, located on Quirino, direclty across the street from Davao Doctors Hospital, the prime hunting ground for young nurses and nursing students. It has a pool and Las Casitas does not. Both have rooms starting at about Php900. Galleria is about a 10 minute taxi ride from the pleasure domes of Rizal St. and it may be somewhat quieter than Las Casitas. The two hotels are close in quality, but I would probably try Casitas first since it's newer. On the other hand, if you're going to be in Davao for four weeks or more, you might think about renting an apartment at Red Knight Garden for about $14 a night. Red Knight has a pool and a small restaurant though it's about a 15 minute taxi jaunt from the middle of most of the action. It's also very quiet.

If this girl lives in somewhat close proximity to CDO you could always consider meeting her there. CDO is a great town with lots to do and with enough hotels so that if you had to bolt she would have little chance of tracking you down. My favorite hotel there is the Mallberry, which is a relatively new place directly across the parking lot from Limkatkai Mall and within easy walking distance of several decent restaurants.

Obviously, Achilles, you've thought this through and I wish you luck. I look forward to hearing about what actually happens when you meet.

GE

Well DS this Davao thread is worth reading these days, apart from the sarcastic SCK comments, haven’t you heard of backpackers before? Anyway thanks for the warning about the dangers of cheap accommodation in a strange land. I know you really care about all of us.

I am coming to stay in Davao for about 2 weeks and then I will be island hopping. Apart from the initial 2 weeks I have no set plans I have a list of girls to visit but am not committed to anything and haven’t told anyone the dates of my travel. I’ll be hanging free seeing where the wind blows I hope to get orientated once in Davao.

I am looking for advice on handling cash while travelling I don’t want to carry a lot of money around. On my first trip I used traveller’s cheques and a little cash. I’ll never do that again. The next time I took all my cash with me in $US100 notes in a money belt, that, was stressful. This time I’ll have a visa debit card with me and a credit card but I’m not happy bringing the CC. A friend sent himself some money through Western Union before he went to the PI and used it when he was deep in the probince. I’m warming to that idea as an emergency backup.

I used a Thomas Cook card when traveling in Europe but Europe is not the PI. Has anyone used an ExpressNet card. I was told you could get one and load up your cash in it and use it extensively when travelling around the islands as not all ATMs accept foreign cards in remote places? How sound an idea is it? Any advice would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]Well DS this Davao thread is worth reading these days, apart from the sarcastic SCK comments, haven’t you heard of backpackers before? Anyway thanks for the warning about the dangers of cheap accommodation in a strange land. I know you really care about all of us.

I am coming to stay in Davao for about 2 weeks and then I will be island hopping. Apart from the initial 2 weeks I have no set plans I have a list of girls to visit but am not committed to anything and haven’t told anyone the dates of my travel. I’ll be hanging free seeing where the wind blows I hope to get orientated once in Davao.

I am looking for advice on handling cash while travelling I don’t want to carry a lot of money around. On my first trip I used traveller’s cheques and a little cash. I’ll never do that again. The next time I took all my cash with me in $US100 notes in a money belt, that, was stressful. This time I’ll have a visa debit card with me and a credit card but I’m not happy bringing the CC. A friend sent himself some money through Western Union before he went to the PI and used it when he was deep in the probince. I’m warming to that idea as an emergency backup.

I used a Thomas Cook card when traveling in Europe but Europe is not the PI. Has anyone used an ExpressNet card. I was told you could get one and load up your cash in it and use it extensively when travelling around the islands as not all ATMs accept foreign cards in remote places? How sound an idea is it? Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The best advice I can give you is to carry only the two cards you mention: the ATM and the credit card. It's what I do and it works fine for me. I have an ATM/Visa from a US Bank and I've never yet found a city here where I cannot use it, and I go to some pretty out of the way places. Not only can you use it for cash, but of course as a Visa card as well, thereby avoiding the fees charged by your bank for withdrawing cash. In my case, my bank charges $3.50 for every withdrawal no matter what the amount, so I tend to take out Php20,000 at a time, which is the maximum withdrawal limit. However, I can use it as a Visa card up to any amount that I have in the account.

I use the credit card sparingly, though I have never had a single problem with fraudulent charges. Still, I'm cautious about this since I've been burned before in other countries. Carrying cash is probably the least convenient and (at least in theory) the most dangerous alternative. ATMs typically give far better rates on the exchange, though of course there are the international fees. If you use an ATM/Visa for most purchases (easily done here) then you should not need much cash at any given time.

GE

Thanks as usual to DS, GE and the thralls of those young testosterone bucks holding their pride and units up like old glory!

I won't bore or entertain you to detail some my two Filipina marriages but to add my.. 02 cents to the forum. GE said it best for those wisdom, holy grail seekers and new romantic of fleshly encounters beware. You see this information here and numerous weblogs and websites the horror stories of guy meets girl and after a few web cam chats girls in the PI seem more and ore demanding these days. They place their profile age does not matter but won't chat more than a few times without a visual! It is repeated over and over let the seeker beware when making your 20 plus hour journey to WOW Philippines. These girls have an agenda, usually to escape the grip of poverty and since they belong to a tribal culture they want to bring all the family along for the ride down to the chickens, pigs, goats neighbors you name it.

If you take their virginity by accident or intentionally as GE has described you have the moral and societal obligation to make it more permanent in most cases. Thats the hook they are throwing out as they troll on the internet. Its a great place overall the Philippines in so many ways is undiscovered and still coming into its own as it tries to fit into the main stream of developed countries. This is hard fought personal wisdom from working and mongering and many successful and many more unsuccessful ventures business and otherwise. Maybe this will open some eyes. I am dubious 50% have to learn the unfortunate way. For the benefit of all please share your good and bad so we all can benefit.